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February 4, 2020: Patricia Hearst Kidnapped

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15:46 min | 1 year ago

February 4, 2020: Patricia Hearst Kidnapped

"The today is Tuesday February fourth. Twenty twenty on this day in nineteen. Seventy four heiress heiress Patricia. Hearst was kidnapped from her apartment by the Symbionese Liberation Army or SA fifty seven days later. She joined her kidnapper's cause leading some to wonder had she planned her own kidnapping. Welcome to today in true crime podcast. Original due to the graphic nature of today's crimes listener discretion is advised extreme. Caution is advised is for listeners under thirteen today. We're covering the kidnapping of Patricia. Hearst by the Symbionese Liberation Army after which she was held captive for fifty seven days and then joined her captors. 'cause let's go back to Berkeley California shortly after nine pm on February fourth earth. Nine thousand nine hundred seventy four Angela. Atwood was desperate for a new set of wheels and not just because she was third wheeling billion Emily Harris Tonight. She could ignore the couple's bickering tonight. The actress I was carrying out an act of revolution but her glorious plan for revolution required three cars. And the group's third car had been taken taken into police custody. The solution was simple carjacking. That was how Angela Harris's ended up in a grocery store parking lot scoping out a mark they found it in a middle aged mathematician heading towards a chevy convertible arms full of groceries. He looked like an easy target and as a bonus his car was cool Angeles steeled herself and approached him. This was just just another acting role. She called out. Give me your keys. We want your car not you. The mathematician was caught off guard in that split. Second the Harris's pounced. They pushed him to the ground tied him up and snatched his keys. Angela helped the couple throw their hostage digital back seat of his own car. They covered him with a blanket and drove off mission. Accomplished at least step one this kidnapping ping was just the warmup collateral damage their real target nineteen year old newspaper Heiress Patricia hearst. Angela Bill and emily drove the stolen Chevy to UC Berkeley. Where Patricia lived in a college apartment with her new fiance? Yonsei Stephen we'd their comrades were already waiting there. With two other cars and a coordinated plan Angela and the Harris's pulled holdup park the car and handed the keys to getaway driver Camilla Hall along with their leader Donald to freeze Angela and bill approach coach door to freeze and Bill Harris held back while Angela slipped into another character frazzled girl who just hit a parked car she knocked on the door crying and freaking out Stephen. We answered and Angela Begged to borrow the phone with we distracted distracted Harris and do freeze burst into the apartment waving guns. We backed up alarmed. Angela grabbed Patricia cursed. Who'd come to investigate? She aimed her automatic pistol at the girl's face backing her into the kitchen. Angeles said be quiet. Why it and nobody will get hurt? Angela proceeded to Gag Patricia with a racket ball. Patricia fought back until Bill Harris pinned send her on the cold the no Liam floor while Bill Wrestled Patricia. We'd pled with the intruders hoping to save their lives. He said Aw. Take anything you want anything you want. Donald to freeze demanded access to their safe. The problem was Patricia. And we'd didn't didn't have a safe sure. Patricia had a robust trust fund but their apartment was squarely between broke college. Students and young homemakers. Nothing much much of value except Patricia Herself Unaware defrays began to search the place. Grabbing Patricia Tristesse purse seeking anything else of value. Just then a neighbor ran in the open door. He'd heard screams and dropped everything to help as quickest possible. He was dispatched justice quickly when to freeze hit him over the head with a shotgun. In the scuffle Stephen. Even we managed to escape through the back door leaving his fiancee to fend for herself. But Patricia wasn't doesn't leading for his help. She was still fighting still screaming. It wasn't worth hanging around. defrays motioned to Angela and Bill Bill and had them drag Patricia outside more neighbors. All students poke their heads out to investigate to freeze fired. Two warning shots. Bill Harris Got Patricia down to the car. The trunk already popped Camilla Hall. Had the car running ready ready to speed away. As soon as their hostage was inside. Bill reached to lift the trunk and accidentally slammed it closed instead. He left to Patricia tied on the ground while he ran to get the keys from Comilla so he could open the trunk. In that Moment Patricia broke free from her bonds. It's and bolted towards her own car in the apartments parking lot as she ran one of her slippers went flying but her glorious escape lasted only seconds before striking pain crossed her body she crumpled Harris had whacked her with his his rifle and was now dragging her into the car. Patricia screened through her gag as the trunk closed around her. The Chevy Chevy sped off Camilla Hall was driving and Patricia. Hearst inside the dark stuffy trunk. The mathematician was still trapped in the backseat backseat hidden under a blanket and extremely confused to other cars followed carrying the rest of the kidnapping operation. Angela Atwood would bill and Emily Harris Donald to freeze Nancy. Ling Perry Ms Moon Saltillo and Willie Wolfe the Symbionese Liberation Beret Shin Army or S. l.. A. About a half mile. Outside of Berkley. They pulled over again. Time to ditch the dead weight. defrays pulled Patricia out of the Chevy's trunk and threw her in the back seat of a station wagon. Meanwhile the other comrades were dealing with the mathematician they made sure his bonds were secure and warned him if he went to the police. They'd be back and they wouldn't be quite so friendly. DSL A ditch the Chevy and its owner. The mathematician had suffered a terrifying terrifying night but he was the lucky one. He was free to go. There other hostage wasn't so fortunate they were taking her to Daly city where she'd be locked in a closet for the next fifty seven days up up next the motivations behind the kidnapping of Patricia. Hearst and the controversies the crime set off now back to the story. It took four minutes to kidnapped Patricia. Hearst one moment the nineteen year old was curled up on her couch in her bathrobe studying studying next to her fiance the next she was hog tied and barefoot in the trunk of a stolen Chevrolet for Patricia. It was an extremely only sudden and very unwelcome imposition on her Monday night routine. At least that's what she's always claimed. Some people believe the events of February be wary fourth nineteen seventy four came about a little differently. Some people think Patricia wanted to be kidnapped and even planned it herself in the year. Preceding her kidnapping. Patricia openly admits to being miserable even suicidal she. She wasn't fitting in at Berkeley and attempt to patch up. A failing relationship with an engagement. Ring wasn't going so well either. She wanted out but didn't know how to change her life at the same time. A very different group of Berkeley students also wanted out. They dropped out of school to become radicals helping to form a group that called itself the Symbionese Liberation Army or sa the SLA saw itself as a revolutionary band but functioned as a destructive cult. The leader Donald defrays Aka sink. You was an escaped convict with almost total total psychological control over the nine other members. They indoctrinated each other with intense rhetoric. The most important being the idea that in order to overthrow capitalism and create the world they wanted to live in the SLA had to commit newsworthy. Crimes these attention attention. Grabbing crimes would inspire other acts of rebellion leading to global revolt and a communist new world in December of nineteen seventy-three they started plotting a kidnapping for their target. They landed on the heiress in their own own backyard. Berkley Student Patricia Campbell hearst. It's not provable but perfectly possible that SLA members met Patricia Tricia prior to her kidnapping. It would have been easy enough for the gang to recruit the wayward young woman. In addition to her less than Happy Circumstances Patricia Asia had a rebellious streak. She'd been kicked out of Catholic school as a teen and was growing marijuana in her back yard. Even her fiance was her high school's former math teacher. Her parents did not approve but they did publish the engagement announcement in their newspaper. The San Francisco Examiner officially officially the newspaper announcement is how the SLA got wind of Patricia. 's location however the kidnapping came about out. Patricia wound up trapped in a closet. Making voice recordings spouting SLA rhetoric and begging her parents to feed the homeless. If if they ever wanted to see her again but nothing they did was enough by April fifteenth. Nineteen seventy four. She was robbing robbing banks she spent the next year on the run. Robbing more banks building and detonating small bombs even acting as an accomplice in a homicide when most of the SLA died in an FBI. Shootout in May nineteen seventy-four. Patricia remained on the Lam eventually splitting up from her surviving kidnappers. Completely but she didn't make any effort for it to return home or to her old life when the FBI caught her in. September nineteen seventy five Patricia claim to be an urban gorilla so was Patricia brainwashed or was she a rebellious teen escaping the rigors of life in the upper crust. This was the question question laid out in her criminal. Trial famed lawyer. F Lee. Bailey used the relatively new diagnosis of Stockholm Syndrome for Patricia. Tristesse defense even renowned psychiatrist. Dr Robert Lifton said Patricia was subject to psychological manipulation and should be treated with with the same sympathy as a coerced prisoner of war. Unfortunately the jury didn't see it. That Way and Patricia was sentenced to seven years in prison however she only served twenty two months before her family's aggressive. Pr Campaign convinced to President Carter to commute her sentence. Twenty years later President Clinton issued a full pardon in the time. Since Patricia Patricia has maintained she was a victim of coercion and Stockholm Syndrome. She was held captive starved and sexually assaulted for nearly nearly two months before she determined that her only chance of survival was to join her captors she joined and stayed close to the SLA Soleil because she felt that if she tried to escape they track her down and kill her. There will always be people. People who think Patricia hearst should be held responsible for her crimes that she meant to commit the robberies and acts of terror and violence but as to whether she went off the deep end with teen rebellion or was just a young woman overwhelmed by circumstances beyond her control. Well all we can do is take Patricia's own word for it speculation or no. The best answer to the question is simply to believe her. Aw thanks for listening to today and true crime. I'm Vanessa Richardson. If you enjoyed this episode you'd check out our episodes of hostage female criminals and cults on the hearst kidnapping today in true crime is a podcast original. 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We Watched 'Emily in Paris' | Jam Session

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42:39 min | 10 months ago

We Watched 'Emily in Paris' | Jam Session

"Welcome to jam session. I'm in. I'm Amanda Dobbins kind of doing a bottle episode today on this podcast. We are going to talk about the number one. Show over the weekend I'm net flicks Emily Harris but I you might know this. But if you don't, the election is rapidly approaching on November third and we want to talk to you about voting voting is extremely important if you have not made a plan for how you're going to vote make sure you've got everything you need at ballot ready Dot Org many states you already vote it's started early or maybe it's coming soon in the Next couple of weeks go about ready dot org. So you are prepared and you have a plan today's episode is brought to you by Schmidt's if you've always wanted to try and natural deodorant but were worried, it might not work. Schmitz does you'll never find aluminum or artificial fragrances made with coconut oil and essential oils. Schmitz keeps you fresh all day naturally visit Schmitz Dot Com to learn more or find it at a retailer near you. All Right Amanda. Let's discuss this latest show from Darren Star which. As you pointed out is number two today Tuesday Annapolis it was number one on Sunday I looked also On Lou Bravo's instagram. So thank you to him for a learning that to be alert to it and emily in Paris is a star, a show starring Lily, Collins, about a young woman from Chicago who works in marketing who moves to Paris for her job and hijinks ensue and we'll we'll talk all about it. That's my description of the show. What's yours I think? That's correct. It's a young American woman. It's an American goes to Paris through the filter of instagram answers and I wanNA talk a lot about the. Very familiar template of the show and the way that it is tried to adapt itself to two thousand twenty and to a what it thinks is twenty twenty audience. So I should say right now I have seen eight out of ten episodes. Spoil. The end for you. I have some suspicions about what's going to happen or else I have some questions about Kate, Walsh's contract and her agent and her choice to be in this TV series. But I had seen a few and was enjoying myself, and then we decided to do this episode, and so I did the hard professional decision to wash four or five episodes last night. It's very tough to be me. And I really really. Think. It's fine. I think I enjoy watching it and I have a tremendous number of notes that I would like to share with you and to discuss as as it relates to Emily Perez being phenomenon because it's a phenomenon totally it it definitely is. Do. All that just really briefly Kate Walsh I. Don't think you need to see the last two episodes say that if you've seen eight like you're just like what the fuck is like Kate Walsh's it episode one Addison Montgomery Gresh Shepherd obviously and she then. Does not. Appear in the next episode two through seven to eight. And what the fuck she must have gotten cut out rightly, there must have been storyline that that that she's just not a part of yeah. I think. So and this is a great segue into my I the thing I would like to talk about. This show is who is this show for and specifically what? Is this show for I? Think this show is for us. What do you think? I think that I do not think this show is for us, and if this show is for us I, think that they screwed up big time and like they made like my summary of this is that it's a cute show that is for children and. Darren obviously made sex in the city, which is a Lodestar for our generation. No matter how you feel about it and he made more recently younger, which is a show that you and I really loved and I was thinking specifically about younger because it is fairly recent. You know. So I feel like it's fair to compare apples to apples TV wise because TV changes over decades right the world is very different from one, nine, two, zero, a beloved show hit the air but this thing about younger. was that by the definition of the show, which is like Sutton foster plays a forty something woman who pretends to be in her twenty s in order to get the job and career she always wanted. It's it's his show about a young person's world through the Lens of someone, our age or someone older and huge part of why it works is because. It's applied and also set foster. Is An. Incredible. Physical actress and comedian, and so she's really tall and Lanky into so unique that. So her the way that she plays. Awkwardness and lack lack of familiarity really propels the show forward and it's it definitely comes into stark relief when you're watching Emily Harris rate because everything from how the Sun Foster character and younger response to like social media to dating to go out to bars to what work is it's like she is an anthropologist rediscovering like the twenty-something world and so it's fun for people like us who are no longer in their twenties I would imagine that it's still fun for people in their twenty s to kind of see this shiny world reflected back at them and also by the way. You always like when I was younger. I never watched stuff with like people my age I was ten when I read Seventeen magazine I was like my. Older stuff. So you always want to project older. It's much trickier to be like an older person watching something that is obviously made for a twenty two year olds and i. kind of Emily Harris. was just like will cut out though older staff and just make this for twenty two year olds and the reason I brought this up is because I wonder whether key was supposed to be more of a character and more of a generational stand in and then they were like, no, no, no, no. You're. Not on the show. Yeah. She did to press for which I found. Very strange. I was like, have you seen the show K. Walter you wear of the edit your received I, you going to say it was for people older than US I. Thought you'RE GONNA. Say it was like for people who are also. Darren Star's age because we did a focus group with our teatime colleagues and they were considering covering the show in their cringe mode segment. They have not yet watched it and they're just sort of like instant instinctively dismissive of it and I was wondering if it's partially because of my personal enthusiasm, I was like Oh should I take note but. I thought that was interesting and I think that like My friends our age and older seem to really like like like the show for like just for like the escape that it is whereas in in that sort of like sufficient at the moment. Yeah listen. This is a show that is centered on an American which listen I'm a gross self-centered American like everybody else when it comes to pop culture and traveling in the world. Okay. Guilty as charged I'm just trying to be aware but it's a to show centered on a young like very classically beautiful and stylish American woman in Paris and it's filmed in Paris and I've. been sitting in my home for eight months. Now, I may never go to Paris again I've only been a couple of times like I am a product like ninety, two, thousand pop culture. You know American whatever where idealized Paris have the books on it like every other damn person. Okay. So I get it I saved the two episodes I'm looking forward to finding out what happens but. While I'm watching it also like this is not as good as it should be, and this is not. This, is not as good as younger. It's not as good as sex in the city and I my best explanation is because I think. It doesn't know that it's audience is actually us as opposed to The accident saying, yeah I. Think I think it's also intentionally. Intergenerational with the older with some of the with the older woman in Paris. Her name is sylvie on the show. That is supposed to be somewhat of an olive branch to old older people as well who've been working for a while who are just like God this woman comes in obviously the show ultimately sides emily. Emily Harris but I did think she was sort of like a nod to. A wider spectrum of viewers. What question I have for you? Is. How do you think this fits into the Netflix's ecosystem because I, I'll just spoiler alert I think it's like a shift in some ways like the like there's not really another Netflix show like this that I can think of and all the shows that you referenced that we've been talking about haven't been streaming shows right. So an interesting thing about this show is that it was originally meant for the paramount network, which is network that brought to yellowstone, which just in case you know what I'm GonNa Guess at our listeners or not really following yellowstone I will watch that I. See myself watching it in the month of December I heard his. Head and I just see myself like when it's cold am like I myself violate fire. I don't know where this is by the way Zongo like I have a fireplace. Okay. See Myself by a fireplace watching yellowstone at some point just getting Cosio Kevin Koster Yeah. So yellowstone is a TV show about Kevin Costner wearing vests in the American west that's honestly all I. Know about it I think there could be some murders and some other stuff but I just I read a blog post by Andrew Darrow about his many wonderful vest. But yellowstone is also a big hit for the network like it has been extremely successful in it is something that. People point to in terms of starting new television shows on on new networks and also specifically older audiences. Who still use linear cable or whatever. So Emily, imagining emily. Perez, like a on a show on the road. Stone kind of programming. It's pretty funny. But again, that's also to say it wasn't kind incubated in the Netflix original series and Netflix spot at from paramount. I. Believe. During covert nineteen or once once. So the world changed. So it, you're right that it's new in that sense in the sense that Netflix has identified. I would say fifteen to twenty year old girls as a target audience and I'm thinking specifically of all of the like the teen Rom coms emphasis on teens basically no US Antonio core. The home. Said you watch that? Accident I'm not GonNa Watch home grown up no offense, and that's great. Listen I think. Girls Fifteen to twenty deserve entertainment like targeted at them. That is great and while made and I think every other part of the industry has ignored that which is wide net flicks. Is having all these I think. It's really great. I am also above the age of nineteen unfortunately. I know a lot of people in their thirty watch homes. Okay. Okay. Back off. Listen it's also what floats your boat. Some of it is just is is preference and what you deem escapism and how young you're willing to go and I like I don't really even like watching teen comedies anymore they make me feel really old and I still love watching the teen comedies that I watched as a teen. And they don't feel as old to me. They bring back like memories of whatever. So I don't know whether it's just that's nostalgia baked in for me or whether I find the the way that people are very young in two thousand twenty to just be like very different and alien and. I. Was revisiting some old one tree hill as a result of like some instagram hole that I went down. And then the Dawson's creek and those are like just hallmarks of my life and I could feel weird watching those i. saw him. That was like a picture of Joey and Pacey and I was just. I've been watching Steph for so long and I kind of look I can't go back to it finally at the age of thirty four I'm sort of like. It's time to move on. I got and I was telling, Kate, how well our teatime colleague today that wanted to things that like most messed up my expectations for what life would be like was the season one episode of Gilmore Girls When Dean Takes Rory to her school dance, and then they go to Miss Patty's and he finds the giant book and her bag and he finds it like really charming and sweet and like like really made him like her she's just not realistic at all and It's just think about like to your point like what is the programming that's targeted at different ages and I think it says a lot about the show that it's like a little bit unclear. It's clear that younger is for people who want to experience millennial life like without being a millennial and like the Hillary Duff character grants and this is like a lot less clear like. Should you be identifying with Emily's Lens should be cringing at Emily's Lens Pun intended it's show better taking pictures kind of. Four, we'll talk about that. Or like is it? All different and I also like in a weird way like this wasn't intended because it was for paramount but. I think. There's an. Of audience with all the NETFLIX's hits that is part of both the marketing, and also just the content that you're just sort of like I mean as I've said, many times I look forward to net flicks drops like people afford a sneaker drops. So I'm all in but like it's just a weird ecosystem where you're just sort of like, okay I accept this is here I'll I'll watch it but. The like the point of view is so much less specific than free for or paramount or what channel is younger on. I. Forgot it's not paramount. It's t land TV land. It's it's co broadcasting paramount whenever it comes back. But yeah, it's just it's just very. It's very different than the netflix ecosystem definitely changes how I receive a show. Yeah and I think you can understand why they tried to make in Paris up to a broader audience, right? Yeah I mean for sure. The. If you're making a show for people for older millennials to understand younger millennials, which is Kinda what younger is because you and I are actually millennials no, we are positioning ourselves as like older than time right now. I'm not I still got a little fight me. Okay but okay. That limits the audience. So of course, especially with Netflix's which is just it's a it's a numbers game and they're trying to get as many people as possible but also really any TV show you're trying to get as many people as possible. So I I appreciate it in theory I just think in execution they they flattened the other thing is that there are also Have you been following the French people hate emily in Paris Yams yes. So French people really hate Emily Harris because they don't think it's an accurate representation of life in Paris to which I say. Touche. Okay. Have you seen Seinfeld? Have you seen friends? These television shows shot in Los Angeles that are like. Bajor New York shows, I mean it's it's TV I like, okay. Sorry I and also I wanNA venture to say that this basic woman from America who's really interested in her instagram would experience. Paris. That way like I I actually think in some ways that's realistic I I don't I don't like under I like emily that character but I think it's very realistic that she would just do stuff that look good on her instagram and was familiar to Americans rate and number one it's not like Parisians. Are. Like allergic rate unfamiliar with the concept of doing things for surface level reasons or aesthetics. But number two, I, understand their point in that it's like it is the ugly American stereotype and then engage with that in the show sort of but then she like saves the day every time America defeats Peres every single time which I'm sure that they're annoyed with and then but I do think some of it is also that this show is has a lot of French actors is filmed in Paris and. Possibly, also being marketed to French people. because. Netflix really wants to be a global company and that is where it is and it makes sense because they're trying to develop international audience. But like imagine being a French person and it's like, okay, this is what you're. You're giving me your yeah totally. Yeah. Movies are dead and the French like believe in cinema for TV version of Taylor. Swift's welcome to New York. Yeah. Exactly. And also French people like are really rude and spiteful say that as a compliment and with love and so all of the quotes about. Emily from the French people are pretty great. They're just like absolutely not she would in a way that is kind of marrying the sylvie character and the show. So I think that's funny. But again, that's a little bit of like this show is really trying to be everything to all people. Yeah. Yeah and I it's funny broke. The global thing is thinking about you like one of the one of the goals of an epoch shows we really popular internationally, and that's one of the benefits the platform I was just thinking about like. What did they translate it for into French and if so what was that work like and I? Just really nerdy questions about the distribution emily in Paris in french-speaking countries. But you know that's probably for a different podcast never be released because it's so boring. What in the show really works Frio Filming Paris. Just. Let's just from things in Paris about that. You know I was like I finished this finish eight episodes. Maybe. I should just check out some French TV. Like what a novel concept so I might be doing that. You know it's funny. I didn't watch the Amazon Modern Romance Modern Love. Show 'cause. I couldn't bear it however I did watch the Paris episode which. About like ownership of a home but you know read at Browley check it out. Also. It reminded me of the way that Marvelous Mrs Mazel treated Paris, which was also very surfaced also delightful i. i. will say I wish that emily had partied a little bit more. Can we just see her hard partying all night in Paris? I'm not at all night girl but last time I was in Paris I did stay out until five am and I'm very. Proud of it and I just feel like that was going to Paris as an American counterpoint I recently watched the episode in which we're going to have to talk about Emily's joggers. I. I have to do a hot ten minutes on that but I recently watched the episode where as a result of her job, she had to Babysit a quote like a barricade star. Who is raised me Jennifer Lawrence like I I what's going on with? They did party as a result of that episode. Yeah. So they party and they wind up at a club and at one moment emily and Gabriel, the hot chef neighbor are dancing it was it was awful. He's the worst dancer in the world. Don't let him dance don't. I was just like, no, no don't take this away from me. Don't let them also it was just like it could be a club anywhere in the damn world with terrible music. They need to they need to party Paris style the last. Night that I had was in Paris I would say for about four years ago. Okay. Parents. Really. Depressing. Okay. But by that, you mean like like night out on the town. Oh. Yeah of course. Okay. All right. I may have another clubs in San but not proudly. Today's episode is brought to you by Schmidt's it can be tough to find a natural deodorant that works the way you need it to some don't last long enough some just don't smell nice. But if you're looking bird yoder and that keeps you fresh all day naturally and offers a variety of seriously amazing sense you want Schmitz. 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She's on the she's on the fourth floor and I think it's got an tash and and France and he's she's on for he's on on three, which is their country foreign five. Anyway she had dumped. You have to be to like more than one time walk up the stairs and not know which door is your own? Is there another staircase or is there not? Emily. Nonetheless He's so hot I think that I am not above watching a television show because the people are really attractive and Oh my God he's so hot. Yeah. I really don't think that we can underestimate the importance. Bravo to the show like are kidding me. I. Holy Shit and I think I texted you immediately I was just like the hot data is just showed up at episode one. Now, it'd be watching the rest of this season. Congratulations to him on his career breakthrough. which has been instant and it's you know some people and I must say this show handles this very well, he shows up twelve minutes in and you're just kind of like okay. Now I, know that thesis of this show and that's a that's a testament to him. That's a testament to the show knowing what to do and just don't let them dance that would be by one request. So apparently, he had some sous-chef experience, I just want to note a concert following him. He had like eight thousand followers. This is like three weeks ago. Now he's two, hundred and forty seven. And Low in my opinion but hung up there. CONGRATS Luca. He told vulture that he had some chef experience like he was doing some sous-chef work like inbetween modeling gigs and things are slow and I believe that zero percent I believe he worked in a restaurant. I don't think. So this is this is the tallest for me. And I don't want to assume this translation. I don't want to underestimate his ability to speak in English I. Think One thing that this great about non-americans the often very proficient many languages. He told vulture that they're like asking him if he did any actual cooking on the show and he was like, no, of course, I didn't do. That it's like from set decorators sick. I. Did Cook Omelette for that one episode but everything else is set decorators and his reasoning was. Of course, I was too busy on sat to cook for six or seven people. Like. Okay. Is that the only reason? Why Man? Maybe Even if you're like a good shafts like doing it picture-perfect TV's like really difficulty. Yeah. That's the only only reason why that belied to me that he doesn't have a real understanding of what goes into cooking for six or seven people in a restaurant environment but that's okay. He's so hot doesn't matter. that he doesn't have like a ton of onset experience but again, that's who cares. She's an you're in our lives. Yeah. Good. Job Him. He lived in Venice California at one point. So we could run into him on the street however also had a note. This is not his natural style. The way that he he's style is Gabrielle's just not really how he looked usually he usually looks much more Venice model like wearing hats and like some scrapping long hair and I don't think I would recognize him but I still would recognize him very attractive gentlemen. Yeah I would love to talk about the styling on the show more broadly because let's do it. Amanda Great, Segue. You know obviously this is there is a fashion component to this Darren Star worked with Patricia Field Longtime longtime collaborator on the on the clothes for this and the the Lily Collins as emily. Close are wholesome. We're going to discuss, but I want to talk about the Parisians for a second 'cause. The Parisians are also like all doing Parisians stereotype things like none of them are styled the way true Parisians would dress there anyone in you WanNa know why not jam Smith and say that's what Real Parisians where. I think Gabrielle does where data at one point. Seven I was like Oh interesting but I'm specifically speaking about the women and the high heels and it's not even the French women don't wear high heels in fact I kind of think stereotypically they often do. But that these are just like these are the Nola Blahnik of sex and the city you know, really yeah. She there is I am like all done up and could go to the club at a moment's notice aspect to pretty much everyone in the show that is at odds with even like the stereotypical understanding of a french-style. Yeah. And silvy exclusively whereas like black seductive dresses essentially. Black Black seductress outfits what she looks good in but just as like. Not. Really, not right. And then the offices are all instagram style. Yeah. One hundred percent. Let's talk about emily's clothes, and then we'll talk about job. So Emily's close. Go from. I guess is intentional from like initially like. Cosmopolitan American from Chicago to full-fledged like avant nearly avant-garde runway style. Hats and booties kind of like. Share Horwitz on drugs I would say. Yes I, some of them work and some of them don't, which is the Classic Patricia Field Style I would say and I think that I, these clothes are working for me a bit more than say the close did on younger and. Sutton foster and Hillary duck both dress. So badly at least at least a good. Yes, it was a real crime against both of them. I felt but this feels like they're going for the sex in the city thing again where she just had something like completely fabulous and it's part of the artwork in the second set design of the show and you know lily cons can wear clothes. Lily Collins who we gave you a primer on last week is a model so she was a model and maybe she's moved in the actress direction. I will say a uniformly loved her outerwear like just great coats and jackets. There was not a one that didn't like she had so many of them and a uniform they despise headwear just like, no no. On the hats for me and I was confused by the booties I I think that there were too many of them and like very uncomfortable. Yeah I, mean I don't think that I would wear pretty much anything that she is wearing in this show in fact, I couldn't. So that makes it a lot easier for me for a number of reasons. Flashy piece of the show though it kind of doesn't really fit the rest of it. You're just sort of like, why is she dresses pain? How did she get all these clothes because in some ways? There's a lot of. Of It. That was the beats of her moving and. Going out when she plugs in her vibrator like all this stuff. But then you're just like, where did all these clothes come from? How does she afford them? is she rich like what's going on here? Yeah and they aren't really like baked into the show at all like sex in the city you know like Kerry was a fashion like. Obsessive and she kept close in her ovens and like the fact that you know she would buy shoes instead of rent like you know they they acknowledged it. They made it a part of the thing which and you know maybe encouraged consumerism like in a different way but they established her clothes at the character and these just kind of a prop I guess yeah that's a great. That's a great way of putting it. Yeah I think. I think in general the sexist city bar while sexists that he may have as problem some people love it and you'll like it whatever. Like impossible to ever live up to it came along at a time. Emily Nussbaum wrote this essay famously now like came along at a time where it really did change television and Darren Stars very good at TV but like you just cannot catch that lightning in a bottle again and it's like kind of like hard to take in some of his content I. Think it's one of those younger. Such a delight is because of how you explained it with like having this lens of like a stranger in strange land and so anything else trying to capture the young woman's experiences just so hard because sex in the city is so seminal. I think it's very true. Nothing's GonNa live up to sex in the city I. DO think that the show could have taken some of the lessons from sex in the city a bit more, and I think there's major way. I'm going to Segue into the job now is. Developing the characters this person is not a character. She's like instagram cut out like she's your own little instagram installation and part of that is because they choose to make her like a marketing person and they just turn her into an influence. Sir, which I don't WanNa drag influencers I like have by the way I I have talked about it. I have French influencers that I follow on instagram. Okay. So I'm not above this I love the content a seem to be doing very well you know she's taken Bala, my French influence her. It's more of a bar class to be quite honest. You know they do simulates at the end, but it's a childhood dream Hers and I wish her well on that but it's it just doesn't. Give you any room to play with in terms of making this a person and I think and and then it kind of limits the way that you can develop that other characters because all of it is so just INSTAGRAM focused that that is a way that I think is a bummer. Yeah and. Ashley Parker who plays Mandy pointed out it also with Bolger that Lily Collins is literally every scene and so you know it just it then makes the emphasis on this one character. So extreme, she's like the driving force through all of it in you know the point is you're supposed to seeing this experience in Paris, the horizon whatever but does it for sure limits the other characters like one, hundred percent and mindy was Mendis world like sounded fun or she was you know she She's a nanny and also performing at a drag club, and like this is history where she on American idol in China. That's like a really fun story and I'm very interested in the mindy season like let's let's replay at all through Mendis is yeah and also the Kate Walsh season I mean it's There must have been more Kate, Walsh character and. got. Edited for she got edited because ultimately, it just becomes like a joke about how she's like too old sit I thought she was too old advocate and I've kind of taken aback by that and then they just forgot that it happened but you could see more in terms of intergenerational stuff and I think also make the emily character more interesting. The other thing just like making her an influence her. Show really is just instagram and I understand why they wanted to make a show that is instagram. INSTAGRAM is like extremely popular and it is where people spend all of their time and all of their money. Especially, the target audience myself included, but it's like I can already get all this on instagram. I kept wondering why didn't they just make her work at a beauty company just made interesting it'd beauty company and she can do the marketing and she can do pretty. Much everything else that you like that they want to do in terms of social media plus also you get like the multibillion dollar or trillion dollar. Probably I don't even know beauty industry which is centered in France in which people are obsessed with and like there are a lot of thematic things that you could do there I it would just be a lot richer. That's my note. Maybe she can do that in season two I assume there will be a season two. I really I liked the vase June I thought that was funny and that's when I was like. A younger like funny works storylines at like House. And an era of of treats them I. I was like, Oh good let's do more wacky products. She astle related to Vaginas that's right and then Carla Bruni texting. which was like amazing and it's kind of I mean it's ridiculous. But it's one of the only times that the show actually like acknowledged France and the politics and and the characters, which was one of the fun parts of younger right like every episode or would be like the author you know and what Booker we paid and cared who has disfigure supposed to be I mean, I thought that was ridiculous but I was also pretty amused by it. I like when it leans into its its absurdity totally and I say like despite all of this I felt really collins charming I mean maybe it's just because like as we go along, there's so many attractive people in it but I just I like overall still found it to be very. Pleasant experience I was waiting for you to watch I think that she is very good I mean she makes these ridiculous marketing speeches actually at the end of the day you're like, yeah, I believe in you and the power of Marketing Lily Collins which like I do but I'm living the consequences of the power of marketing every day. So are we all but like have you rooting for this weird advertising influence I I don't know it's hard to sell that and she sells it. I think again that she really does like midgely look great in the clothes she has good energy and sells a lot of really annoying things because this woman is really annoying this woman is. Annoying. What are you doing Ma'am just like calm down learn some French everyone can big like you move to the to France and you don't know any French but she doesn't even know like please and thank you come dine biohazard. You very angrily last night where she was six episode Dan and she did not know what the cafe to floor, which is like one of the great parents I don't even call it a tourist trap. It's not it's like a historic. Parisian cafe you know who loves CAFE TO FLORA GARDEN. You know who loves garden I'm sure. Emily from Emily Harris. Don't tell me that you don't know what the cafe floor is. I Yeah I think like there's there's like obviously a lot of like. Problems. The Chevrolet more was like a lot of chatter on it in general and we're remarking on there were so much coverage of it starting on Friday when it came out through. I'm sure it will continue and I'm curious like in kind of discussing this like, why do you think that this show kind of has gotten the attention that it's gotten aside from the obvious of Lily? Collins is beautiful and Luca Bravo is beautiful because there's a lot of shows beautiful people on them. Yeah it's a good question. I mean you and I both knew about this show is an event before it came out and and that's partially because of what we do in our jobs but also I think because someone somewhere decided we're GonNa make this shown event and like I was on group tax where this show was an event and like people sent the trailer and it was like a second, we know it's coming. So I think that they identified an audience It's the audience at least in my life is pretty similar to the younger audience and totally people who would be in sex in the city I think they know that Darren Star still Not Still, but Darren start is like a big name especially for people of our generation. That is like that's that's a brand name and so I think. They the Marketing Department at Emily, Harris and it Netflix's knew that this would have a lot of brand name recognition and then I think there was a lot of work into like making this thing that you knew was coming and that's really hard to do in twenty twenty because there's so much going on but I also think. Cut You know at the same time. There aren't that many of event things to the particular audience that you and I are talking about, which is like women over the age of twenty five. So it's a little bit of an event when we don't get that many targeted events would be an diagnosis. Yeah it. Yeah and I think, I think you know we talked about this with Meghan. MARKLE's. Prince. Harry's overall deals with Netflix's, and now there's this show and on the other show that doing really well currently number one is a true crime show. What's the name of it again? It was American murder, the family next door. Yeah. Like it's just it's been. Proven but like the data suggests that the people who really care about true crime that propels the voluminous podcast and the voluminous Netflix's honor Fjord are women and I think it's very interesting to see like some of those more women focused content like getting up but hold on the platform and like I'm sure this doesn't hold a candle to umbrella academy and. Stranger things but it is. It is significant that like this sort of like women focused programming is is doing well because I don't know if you necessarily associate complex and I think I just like worth noting and. I don't know just kind of like interesting to me. This like I was saying I'm personally so invested in Netflix's buying it. So fascinating I think a lot of people in media and entertainment do because it's just like you know it's a game changer literally, and so there's like a lot to parse but. I don't know. It's just kind of interesting like those are the two shows that like everyone. That I've spoken to are being served on their netflix homepage right now. So. It's kind of it's just it's just fascinating, and then to see like it'd be reinforced by the coverage on a lot of women. centric websites and podcasts is also just sort of like funny to watch the ecosystem at work and you're kind of like you know there are strings being pulled, but you don't know exactly what what they are. Yeah I'm just having the strings were being pulled for something I want to talk about for. As you said, and I think like that's a little bit on me Amanda Dobbins being the most particular person on the face of the earth because there are a lot of things wonderful things being made right now and. What you just become aware of is kind of the segmentation of culture and I think we often talk about that in negative terms and like there's too much to watch or these things I love don't get made or like I have to listen to boys talk about superhero movies for like a million years by the way that is just my personal experience if you are a woman and you love Superhero movies and more power to you. Larry Ruben yes. I'm just surrounded by. Other types of people but. It and the experience when there is just like so much content about things that are not to your interest can be Kinda alienating ripe I find it that way, but then it's Pretty exciting when suddenly everyone's just like now here's the thing for you and now just like Oh okay. My interests still matter and it does kind of feel like the stars aligned this particular weekend and I think. To your point about Netflix's and their strategy, their strategy is everything. Their strategy is to kind of take the world and because of recent events technology I honestly they might be able to. So it's like this week you know we got emily in Paris and then next week will be another You know supernatural show and then the week after that will be you know an indie movie that hopefully people will watch please watch movies or else we're going to die I really like movies but I in general just want the escapist fare right now like I can't imagine finishing emily in Paris than going to American murder I'm just like no I just I can't do it but powered everyone who can yeah and I think again, people have different definitions of escapism and this is like a type. This is a literal physical escape and that I am an American I cannot go to Paris right now or anytime soon and it's an escapism in the clothes and it's escapism in the really hot guy and that definitely works for me other people find escapism in superhero stories, other people find escapism and action sequences and so nat flexes. GENIUS IS IN OF ISN'T PUTTING ITS ENTIRE Global you know machine behind all of those things every week at such a scale that we'll talk about this, and then I'm sure on the watch or something they'll be talking about the next Netflix show at a two weeks. It's pretty it's pretty astounding and it is also just really interesting. The other thing that's different is You know ten years ago and even with younger Emily Harris would have been like a week to week thing and so we just kind of would have been being and this own for a few months, and now it's just like a white hot burst and then it's the next White Hart Burstyn. So you know we might have to wait another six weeks for our next big thing but I'm sure it will come. I can't wait for it. You know whatever that may be I'm looking forward to it. I just hope it's enough Lexi now. So I keep on watching have they announced season two yet now I think. I'm sure there will be who knows that they can shoot Paris again, and if anyone is listening in, Paris rethinking of you is your city goes back into lockdown that really stinks and hope that everyone is okay. Yes and also if you're at home elsewhere watching this show and longing of escapism to we send our love to everyone that Israel appeal of it you know, and now it does look like a period piece of a of a slightly different world. which is so strange. Very strange. Thank you so much for listening. We'll be back next week or the regular celebrity focused episode until that have a great week.

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Why Do We Give The Scale So Much Power?

Diet Starts Tomorrow

20:32 min | 10 months ago

Why Do We Give The Scale So Much Power?

"Have. You heard about Netflix's new show Emily Harris starring Lily Collins from Creator? Darren? Star. The series is a romantic comedy fish out of water story surrounding Emily Ambitious Marketing Executive who must navigate cultural nuances, office politics and romance in the magical city of Paris set in the world of luxury Parisian. Marketing Emily Harris is for every person seeking feel good romantic comedy full of style complex relationships finding yourself in a new city. Make. Sure to watch Emily Harris streaming only on net flicks benches media presents lose three pounds yet nighttime may Dan Fodio Diet starts tomorrow. endorphins endorphins make you have. Jim Happy People don't shoot their husband with hosts daily Cooperman Jolly. Sammy. Fish buying. A alot and welcome to diets tomorrow. I'm Sammy I'm a mean and we are back with another DSP this week. In do you WanNa do you want to read it or should I we jumping right in like this quickly, I? It's weird. No I don't have any preambles anything. You have anything to say interesting. Nothing interesting to say. Okay let's get it go straight into the. Great. Okay. I'm very giddy today I was reading after reading the threat about. From last week about in slack from last week about Helen, suggesting you join across. His tiktok like those I that tiktok audio clip of like somebody laughing hysterically. Like. Like. That's that was we? Also, just laughing at that for a solid like three minutes a myself doing cross it brought me such. We should do. We should make a video of me trying to do it. Y Ya We're require you having to have to do it. Right I don't WanNa do it. Okay. Well, we just read a dirtiest it's grown I can't go to a gym. Well, there's some it depends which Jimmy. I'm I'm just Stop. It's my Okay. Dear guest t I'm twenty nine and have always been within the same five conway range throughout my adult life including college. In other words, my weight has never really fluctuated or gone above a certain number. I'm twenty nine I haven't changed my eating habits I exercise regularly. But lately, my weight has been creeping up a couple of pounds higher than it ever has before I generally consider myself to have a pretty healthy relationship with food and my weight all things considered. But the fact that the number on the scale is going up is bothering me i. think it seems particularly hard because it's reaching into new decimal of ten that I've never been to before. So even though it's only a couple of months it. Feels like a drastic change in number. I. Think it's also hard because may wheat has always stayed so constant. So it's tough to adjust to this new change number. I have loved your advice before about not getting caught up by a number on the scale but the thing is I've never really felt like that was an issue for me until now do you have any words of wisdom or words of advice as to how to stop letting this get to me thanks so much sincerely scared of the scale. You know it's interesting that she's coming to us for advice about like not caring with the scale says. Considering, considering. What that's Considering I literally. I. Just got my period know this is relevant to the answer, but I feel so heavy and uncomfortable in my body right now like generally I understand her carrying Saying like there's like to think that you're just gonNa like not care because you want you in theory don't WanNa care is like on an unrealistic expectation of yourself I would say, okay, well. My Way may big. Piece, of advice here though is like before we give any advice is that I think that she should. Go to a doctor I or go to a Dietitian or someone who can rule out anything medical. It's going on and then if there's nothing really you know like any hormonal problems like like anything like physically have changed in her body that's causing weight gain because it that's a that's a sign of something you know something physical and then once if it's ruled out that there is no real physical change than than it's emotional mental. Right. I just feel like, okay. It could be that and I don't WanNa be like, oh, she shouldn't go to a doctor she definitely you know should. Assuming she has access and insurance and everything but also like I feel like what's probably More likely is that this is just like Kobe. Wait like. I just think that like we haven't we as a country like everyone hasn't really been as active overtime as like we were our whole lives and I think that that just has like a knack. It just catches up to you because like when you are moving in the aggregate less over six months, you're you're GonNa, see weight gain because your body's used to moving a certain amount. So but and so your metabolism is like I would say it's just If I had to guess she's like she's like nearing her thirty's your metabolism does start slowing down a little bit anyway we you know I. Don't know exactly what her lifestyle is like but like even if you're exercising a lot like we are naturally all more sedentary now than we were before. So languidly yeah. Just be sort of a temporary lights you know change due to the the lifestyle may be your set point. Is maybe that five pound raise that you were your whole life but because of. Cova de and just the situation now like maybe you're just like going up a little bit and that could be it. Yeah there's all. Right will another thing I was gonna say I think I saw some instagram story maybe it was like Lisa that there she they went to their guy no or like their doctor and they said that like they had seen like an average weight gain amongst like generally all their patients because of this and this is very common so like that's one thing to consider. But I'm worried that we're not answering her question because she's asking like, how do I not care not not? Excuse the way we'll I think I think for part of it is understanding the contacts because you can. Be Not caring and kind of feeling like more of an acceptance and appreciation for this. This is just the way it is right out all like. Excluding any actual medical problems Let's say she comes back and that's you know everything is kind of the same. I think there's also the consideration of emotional wellbeing stress to like besides the. Fact that we're moving less like I'm moving so much less even though I'm trying to exercise. I'm not at my what is that called on like your neat like the amount that you actually move? Like like you're like you're the amount of calories you're burning not like food not in a food way but like literally, how much energy your body is extending? No The no part of the neat part of exercises, the movement like going upstairs or walking or like just like the General Movement that you do to get from point A to. Our decreased substantially And that's a huge chunk. That's that percent is higher then adding exercise to your. To your day to day so that in itself could be an explanation for why. But in terms of how to be okay with that week gain I mean that that is. That's the question. Right I think you have. You know we will no longer need this cat. Would I think it's the it's a compassion element. It's feeling like. This is what my body is needs right now like I'm using food to cope if I'm you know if that's just what's happening. Is What it is. You, know what I mean I for me like in in terms of. Last week or last Sunday's episode I was talking about how like I've kind of been down in like so not intuitive and I went to while I couldn't sleep so. When I tried to sleep I was just thinking back Ghana and I'm like made this connection between that. This is. Immediately after I mean, yes. The the debates whatever. But immediately happens right after I weighed myself. Interesting like I hadn't weighed myself in since March I, did and I feel like my I started to eat so much more much more mostly like started to think about like dieting and not thinking about how had eat more regimented in my lean snacks in. Like like, we're talking one hundred calorie range of snack food and all of that I feel like has has been more present in my brain since I weighed myself and that I feel is a stronger connection to. Why haven't been so intuitive lately so Yeah. I had a hidden nothing interesting to. No. No no I think that. That is very interesting I actually big that's like. That probably an accurate like inside because. Yeah I mean I will say like the same thing is that like as my as I might clothes stop fitting and like I feel uncomfortable like wearing anything other than like honestly like a sweatshirt and like leggings. The more. It enters my mind like, oh, how I'm GonNa really just like continuing for like how am I going and I, almost like texted you like but then I was like. Rail her like almost actually do a joke like. So when are we going back to dieting? But. But. But also jokes have truth to them. So yeah. So but I didn't want to say that because I didn't want to get like. In your mind that with my shit so I guess I'm doing it now. No, I don't you're talking about. So we're talking about it I. Don't feel that. Yeah. I but I think real I wanted to say so are we really never dining again? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah I think the answer is we're really not because it. It makes me go back to that day realization of like post dieting of like just eating and eating and eating. So mindlessly and thinking back like I'm not really enjoying all enjoying this weight I'm gaining then switching then practice really practicing intuitive eating. Enjoying at least the few pounds I've gained right like really really understanding what I like looking within, and then in the last since kind of doing something that's very, very eat. Directly tied to dieting or in my mind obviously on weighing myself immediately kind of going back to that. That that the actions of eating. So mindlessly, not really enjoying what I'm what I'm eating and. And I'm kind of eating the same things but I'm not enjoying it. I'm just like. Shoving me my body. So and I'm eating a lot more. To Cope like I I don't. Usually. Like if I have to eat something after brush my teeth, I know there's something going on. That I for me So I've been doing. I saw you just went. When it? Well. I just WANNA say just on off of what you were saying as I was body checking myself on my way back from the dentist in the elevator up to my apartment. I. Was Thinking to myself like. I was I was doing that calculation my head like of my really never going to diet again like what if I just like keep feeling? So uncomfortable again today feel particularly uncomfortable and I was like I'm looking at myself and I'm link. No I can't go back to that restriction. It's like so nice to go to restaurants and like to just do what I want every to not think about this. Had like remind myself like, yes it's like satisfying for like. For a little bit. But ultimately, just kind of harms me. Yep. Agreed the restriction is much more harmful than the looking within an eating, not necessarily whatever you want. But eating maybe in the beginning half of practicing twitter eating yet just letting yourself understand what you like or exploring that, but just going to following your. Intuition about. What foods will? Give you energy in that moment like reframing the thought of reframing that like food is something that you need so that you can live and be. The energized is so different than the mindset of dieting were food is bad and we should eat as little as possible. Right it makes no sense. It doesn't really make sense and it is so fundamentally like there deeper reasons why it's wrong and like what it, what the effects of it are. But yeah, I, mean. I intuitive intuitive getting like is fun. It is kind of like. Like it is if like in. Good to be mindful and in touch with like. Eating what you want for real and as someone who eats to the point of pain like that has been nice like not really doing that. Something Weird. Happened like when I again, I got home from the dentist and I was just like I really WanNa tuna fish. With like I never I like out of the can which I never ever. Ever. Eat the way that I randomly like something went off like that sounds like really good right now and I think that's kind of like an ex-. Okay. This sounds so weird like but it's like kind of exciting lake feel like I could just have. Like all the foods I thought like I don't want and Obviously. Tuna fish is not unhealthy but like I just never want like, yeah. Something I saying whatever. Why make it Right right. Exactly. Yeah. I don't. It's just interesting like. Like patterns emerge. That's really the reason why tuna Tuna fish is because it is like this. It's it's the tuna fish as a brand is like. The a healthy lunch that our moms probably had on hand. This. Giant robot tuna goddess dressing like that. But if you, but it's we and you would never really crave it because that's the brand in your head. 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The truth is that like if It's something to work on. It's like an acceptance thing to work on about where you are what your body is what needs right now. But ultimately, like it's not gonna just come easily and we can't make you or give you an answer that will like solve that because it's really like an emotional transition that can be made over time. Right but like I think it starts with being like compassionate towards yourself and your body for the things it does for you that don't really have to do with appearance yet focusing on those things. Rather, than like about me eating them on size or something. Yeah and something you could probably think about is like what your weight means to you the number why do you need to stay the same and does that number represent something? To you about the way that you are about the way that you should live are there any should 's attached to that number? I wonder if maybe you even. Just bringing this up because some kind of told me a story yesterday about like. Things he was remembering about lake her that happened to her and her child comments that were made to her like. was there ever a comment made to you? About Lake only under certain weight range is acceptable or maybe a parent or grandparent like. You know a friend in kindergarten I don't know like not kidding but you have an I like does it does it have some sort of like? Reason that you are like that. You think going above that is like for some reason not. Okay. Yeah. Did you hear it in a movie like it could be anything? You, read it in a book Yeah I mean weight fluctuations accepting for somebody who's been dieting or like consistent for their whole life accepting of your body women's bodies especially fluctuate in many many different stages of life is something that is like something that needs to be kind of accepted. It's just something that happens. But. Right now, if it's going up and up and up and there's no real like regulation, I would. I would explore first medical. Reasons and then rule that out and then explore the emotional year here. Yeah. Cheers. All right. I. Think that's it. For this episode. Don't forget to rate reviewing, subscribe follow me probably me any lean, not situation at Sammy. Follow ads I'd start small on instagram. You can also check out our merchant shop dot com go to podcasts starts tomorrow that is indeed this podcast name and we're always with you through thick and thin. Died starts tomorrow is hosted by Ilene Cooperman and Sami Fishburne our editor Sean Kilby our podcast producers are Mike Cost Rally Sean Kilby and Carly Rice and work is by Britney Levin. Be Sure to follow us at died starts tomorrow on instagram and email your questions non scale winds to DSP at fetches dot.

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Is There Such A Thing As Intuitive Exercise? Ft. Helen Phelan

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Is There Such A Thing As Intuitive Exercise? Ft. Helen Phelan

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APP Helen Field Studio or for her approach to Anti Diet Culture with intuitive fitness techniques for mental and physical? Strength. Welcome Helen Hello I'm super excited to be on with you guys I've been listening to your stuff forever yet so much for joining and you also recently wrote an article for Betcha that got a lot of great attention positive feedback on from audiences especially, tomorrow on the articles called the time to cancel shedding for the wedding is here so. That was great. Yeah. This is I mean this is such good timing with because we did have a whole conversation about shot for the wedding last week and I, got I have to tell you I got so many responses from like DC from DC listeners talking about their own experiences, their own experiences at their wedding some people who said that they had shed for the wedding and Later, in life regretted it some people told me that they didn't shed for the wedding and that they they also potentially regretted eight or heads to like work through that experience, and so I mean your article was was amazing. It was I went back and read it again actually last week anti kind of like give myself a little bit of a boost and it was just it's really enlightening and lake. So true. So I guess you WanNa like Kinda summarize for everyone your thoughts on shutting for the wedding. Sure I think it's bad. and. It's no that's that's generalizing and simplifying things. I am a human woman. I feel the pressure to to feel beautiful in a society that has all of these expectations of us but as a wellness practitioner as a as a trainer as a coach as a rookie practitioner. And as someone who has battled eating disorders for this point, most of my life now and like two thirds of my life and I'm only twenty nine. it is it's something that I feel like we just need to take a step back and unpack what is the desire to do that like why do we feel like we have to change appearance for this day? Where know as I said in the article, our partners are with us for a reason it's probably not a hundred percent because of you know the size on the scale and the dress is that we're so what inspired you to want to write this? well, I mean I am a bride I got engaged in November and Thank you who knows what will Mary's? got engaged in. November. And even just working in finishing before we got engaged, there's a lot of pressure. In the fitness industry to look the part and I was freshman dancer before I got into fitness. So that's kind of just been. An. Underlying theme happening in the background of everything else happening in my life is how do I? How do I fit the part whether it's for a character for a costume or for my career for for the job that I want to do and? It. I also have the extreme privilege of being in a straight size body like I am a four six. So fully also recognize that. The pressure that I might feel to look certain way to feel acceptable or beautiful in society is nothing compared to what people have been marginalized bodies experience. And even still friends of mine peers of mine in the fitness industry. The second I got engaged would be like an hour shedding for the wedding or sweating for the wedding or whatever cute little name you WanNa. Put on it and. It's hard to not. Take that really personally and have a moment where you're like, okay. Do I throw away all this intuitive eating intuitive fitness that I've been working on for years to recover just because of this one day or you know how? How can I make sure that I still have my mental health at the end of the day? We'll why what do you think it is about like weddings and women that makes like size and the fact that you are a bride so like inextricably linked and like it's almost like. You aren't folk filling the role of the bride Philippi if you don't also starve yourself prior absolutely I mean anything it's tied up in you know. Historically before women were working and and more equal in the workplace even though we're still not being paid April in the workplace wedding was kind of like the via event that Marcher you your ascension to adulthood into womanhood. At defined your feminity and away and even though. We like to think our culture has moved on in so many ways that's still deep deep conditioning that we have somewhere in the back of our heads and so somewhere in there, it's it's tied to am I really a woman if I'm not my absolute most beautiful on this one day as as being beautiful defines who you are as a person right and then there's obviously the inextricable link between beauty and thin, which is its own things to unpack. I I do wonder though like. Where where young kids are still getting like that that whole idea that the wedding or getting engaged on a pedestal like I was I still follow follow navy and she recently posted like. Of her daughter Ruby, talking about how her this buoyed her class gave her a ring and proposed to her and like that was. An exciting thing and I just can't imagine though she's getting it. you know from I mean I doubt her mom's like you have to get. You know I doubt that that's where she's getting it. But like that is interesting that that that used to be a woman's kind of we were saying last episode like the peak of their life their biggest accomplishment I wonder where we're where their kids are still getting not concept 'cause I mean. What could they be watching. Where where they're being taught that. Yeah. I think it's probably hit. You're talking about true and their parents are their parents are. But I, think it's also way less obvious than we may realize it's not like we're putting on. TV. Shows kids are like OK girls have to get married and that's all they can do. It's now it's so much more subtle than that. Right where do you believe seeing it if they're not seeing it like? Like explicitly. Why I think it also has a lot to do with you know how much of our life especially in twenty twenty is on social media and even without a wedding where already not me but people are faced tuning editing and retouching these photos to the point of. Alien looking cyber. Cyborg the same face type of thing. And we have lost track of. What human bodies look like and feel compelled to look like that. Sometimes I get confused when I see a Cyborg like a real cyborg because unlike unlike you must have, you must be so used to face tuning yourself that you don't even know what anatomy the anatomy of a basis supposed to be like anymore. Yay I read something online yesterday, and now it's GonNa kill me that I can't remember who said it but oh I. Think it was cure nightly actually doing an interview. I don't know how I got on that on instagram on my explore page but some old interview from Gary nightly at being like, I. Don't judge any woman who responds to the pressures of culture and society by doing whatever dieting workout plastic surgery injections a judge, the society that inflicts that Upon Her. So I think we should all do what we need to do to feel good and get through the day and while i. Promote in to beating and intuitive fitness I totally understand an empathetic to the fact that. Some people. Have a hard time accepting not uneven now practicing intuitive eating attitude to fitness for years as you were saying in your your last podcast when you're like your last podcast but the podcast when you were interviewing. At least rash that it's if lifelong, there's no perfect way of doing it. It's constantly evolving. Were you how long have you been intuitive eater did that start as a result of being a dancer or not? As a dancer is like the opposite of into. as a result of have been passed. Yes. Show, I was engaging in a number of disordered eating habits for years and years and years, and it morphed into fourth Alexia at when I got into fitness like I. think that was a positive step in that it was no longer. Anorexia or bulimia, but because I had gotten so comfortable with the restriction and. you know the rigidity of that lifestyle plus growing up as a dancer it's very entwined with I am your textbook type a person. But it got harder where dangerous it got harder to see that it was actually still an illness because I was abusing the healthy eating habits healthy and quotes because you know eating just green juice all day is not a healthy eating habit. But Society. And magazines and influencers on instagram really make us think that it is. So I did go back to to therapy and I, think a big part of that was moving in with my partner when we moved in together for years ago. And he is French from France and just the dichotomy between our eating habits like his like all about sensuality and pleasure. Listening to his body eating what he wants when he wants when he wants it. which you know maybe men have an easier time with in general because of the less pressure on their body, but specifically just in his upgrade upbringing it really. It really. For the time, made me feel like something was wrong And so I vented intuitive eating. Right what was an example of something that he was eating that you were like, how are you doing that versus like some habits of yours? Yeah. I don't know that was a specific one time thing but you know like he'll breakfast every day he has like you know Crisanto like. A less. He will. Not He doesn't he doesn't eat he's into to fitness he loves working out but he doesn't. He doesn't eat. Health foods if you know the way that the the foods that we think of as health foods and his complete lack of worry are surrounding that just was all the more obvious when I was having panic attacks about. US. Eating out together at the same time. When you when you say he eats, he doesn't eat health foods. You mean, he doesn't eat fruits and vegetables or he doesn't eat like something that you would buy like the natural the natural versions of chips or the natural versions of. A he eats, he eats a balanced diet. You know together most meals especially in quarantine but I mean, he doesn't spend time looking at supplements and and you know talks things and like you know. He's Oregon are promoted normal real. He's eating like the what we think of like. Foo-. As food not like out like kind of like what you see on like a wellness influencers. Product recommendations. Yes absolutely. Yeah he had no he has no concern for peptides. He's not wrapped up in that and you know I. Don't I think the wellness industry there's so many good things that have come out of it. You know my job has come out of it, but it's when we are mindset around s when we abuse the supplement powder is and all that stuff when we when we think that this magic elixir that's going to change and revolutionize our life that's when it becomes too much. You know some of them actually just realizing this as having this conversation but I never it never up processed for me until literally right now how like insecure I always felt when seeing like influencers push these like health food products. And Like I felt like I never. I. Still Don't know like the brands you should get and the like ingredients you should get to like I don't know to get the side effects that like they want a tell you are good for you I always that always made me feel so insecure like why can't i? Be Healthy with a with a salad and you know you know some well-balanced toppings and like you know, make my own dressing that isn't process like why can't I be like that version of of healthy like why do I need to like no these brands that you found on well and good or something I think though just what you said like my own homemade dressing like that in itself is like you feeding into what they're saying, why don't we? Only, have like a process of processed dressing long like there's so many dress mind. But I actually don't usually like process dressings and the reason is because like I like to make my own flavor of the dressing so that it's like, okay exactly what I want it to be but like I I've never been loyal to addressing brand. Well I think the other thing that's underneath all of that is that we have assigned to this virtue to not just the Nesper. Now also health that we acquainted tennis. So. We see this influence or who is like pickles tomato from her own garden and you know grown whatever from scratch in. A that's not realistic for a lot of people. A lot of people are food insecure. A lot of people don't have time to do that stuff. So it's of course, it's wonderful to eat organic and. Those foods that we think of as super nourishing nutrient dense but it's also really a it's really a privileged standpoint to think that that's the only way. This episode is brought to you by book of the month. Book of the month is a fun book subscription. You get to choose new book each month. Each month book of the month features five new and early release books. You can pick the one or two or three that you want. Their team does all the book research for you. So you know you're getting into a good thing on the very first page, which means more time reading and less time researching many members and branching out to a new type of. 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Oh to book of the month Dot Com and you can get your first month for just ninety nine with code batches. That's book of the month. Dot Com code fetches. Talk about something that is a little bit an off shoot I guess you could say of the whole intuitive eating movement and that is intuitive exercise and intuitive movement, and this is something that. I've been struggling with hard lately I have not exercise since the week before my wedding and I realized that I have. An. All. At this point, it's it's completely on if it's a Ben Diagram is lapping like my association between exercise and. Weight loss and it's to the it's to the extent where like even if by like workup sweat going on a walk, my mind is like oh great. I. Burn Calories. And it is like. I can't even imagine myself like. Moving or engaging in exercise where that's not kind of like at least in the back of my head if not the major forefront of my head, right like what are you burning off right now? Exactly. Yeah. So I think you kind of have to reprogram your brain and the associations with exercise because traditionally percents of the marketing around fitness and dieting is is an. Exchange it's basically that they're opposites of each other. You know like food in food out with exercise versus food in for nourishing exercise for vitalising and supporting your your longevity, your overhaul, your overall health, your mental health, your energy, all of these things we could go on and on about all of the the reasons that movement is good for you other than losing weight. But you Kinda have to consciously. Commit those things to memory 'cause it. It won't happen automatically what's automatic for us at this point as a culture is exercise is to either punish your body for something that you eight or work your way down the scale usually unless you're a bodybuilder, not that common to hear people talking about exercising to make gains maybe maybe Yelich across the community is more into that but even so they're very specific about their eating and our meal prepping and our our. Healthy eating in a arguably disordered way. Right. Like I used to or I still have that mindset of like what's the point of exercise if you're not training for something? Toward towards something towards some ideal and like most recently, I went back to my trainer who was my who I like love. I have a great relationship with him and he was my trainer going into our. Shedding for the wedding and threes and time I asked him. I was like I do not want to think about my way I. don't WanNa weigh myself. I just WanNa live kind of. Create health healthy like workout habits for my life like I don't WanNa have a start stop on off. To exercise, want to integrate it. And that's so hard yesterday even yesterday. On my Peleton and I was like looking at my apple watch only calories burn. Let me get into an even number. You know even though it's completely, it doesn't have anything to do with anything. Like why do I need to burn three hundred calories? deep-seated like OCD going in like that I have to get to three zero zero even though it is an approximate number but and I know that but it's still going through my mind and then you feel some sort of. You feel like a failure if you don't get to some larger number that you don't even know where it comes from. So you. What is it? You would exercise can you just talk about that? Yeah. So it's very similar to intuitive eating in that it involves introspective awareness or body awareness or being attuned to your body or whatever you wanNA call it and it's not easy just like intuitive eating is an easy It's actually probably harder than just doing their no pain no gain I set the schedule and I'm going to show up and do it no matter what. But. Over time it becomes more habitual it feels more natural and in practice and I think a big part of that is is changing how you feel about exercise if you view it as a chore as You if you view it as. Something that you have to dread doing them. We're GONNA. have. A harder time motivating ourselves to do it because even even if we're talking about you know. To support my mental health and all those things still some days you're tired or hung over, and you don't want to do it and but if you can call on these other reasons like I know that I'm GonNa. Feel less bloated after I do like all these these rotations and my yoga practice or I know I'm GonNa. Have more energy and be able to show up better in my relationships for the rest of the day. If I got that stress out first thing in the morning with a quick, you know cardio workout or whatever your thing is it affects your and your your your sensory awareness with the world relationship at the world the rest of the day. So. I know like intellectually that those are. Do Happen and like those are reasons but like there's Without the weight loss peace just being completely honest here it's like not worth it to me to like. To push myself. And I know that like maybe that I should evaluate why it's worth it to me to push myself to like maybe burn a few calories versus like to push myself to have a more pleasant day. But like I guess it's hard for me to really believe that it will materially impact my debt impacts me. In any other way other than weight loss like I don't really get how to how to how to want to I. Don't really want to move at Yeah other than to get dinner to be honest. Well, that's where I feel super lucky that I. You know I grew up dancing. So dancing has always been an inherently movement is inherently part of of my identity and I know it's not exactly. A lot of people it is not. I do think that it's it's helpful to make. A few journal entries and record how you feel before you work out record how you feel after you work out and that might feel really arduous and like a chore in the beginning but You basically have to retrain a new neural pathway in your brain. So long your entire life up till now, you've been deepening that groove of the neural pathway that says you know working out is for weight loss that's will get out of it nothing else and said anything about how strong matinee pathway is in our brain it's not GonNa one podcast one book one, one session with a trainer is not going to. Change, how you you reflexively think about those things so every day. While I do think it's interesting because like I remember like when I first started working out, it was introduced to me as like a means for weight loss it was but but it's not like but activity wasn't introduced to me as a means for weight loss like when I was younger I would like rollerblade or like jump. Or. Play with golf a lot of movement there. You will work. But yeah like like I would say like I did sports as when I was younger and that was not like inherently tied to weight loss but like the idea of going to the gym or going for a run or like a swim, those were all inherently. Like tied to weight loss. So like what are other ways to like look at move man as like like look at. A like how can how can I like get back into movement at all? Totally. I think if you if beef up the mindfulness aspect of it so that it becomes more meditative and unbiased as applaud as instructor thinking Pelotas like the best way to do that but you can do that on your. Peleton. You can do that in boot camp class. You can become more aware of your breasts. You can pay attention to what muscles are working when really cute. into the physical sensations even if they're uncomfortable because that helps again keeps your mind wandering a lot of times when people are working out for this reason of weight loss, they also hey, the workout that they're doing their because they feel compelled to show up for an event for a wedding for whatever it is. That is making them feel like they have to look a certain way. But they check out of their body during that experience. So Out Sometimes, you need to check out of your body. Sometimes, what's in your body is is overwhelming I recognize that too. But if you are able to consciously think about your inhaling your xl and employee's we exhale on the exertion or the hard part of the movement. So thank If you're doing like a curl up, sit up type of situation, you're exhaling to lift your chest up inhaling lower yourself down. That's also going to help regulate your nervous system a little bit more obviously than if you were holding your wrath which a lot of people do. You'd be shocked at how many hold their breath for like forty five minutes and I had no idea how they're not fainting. It's Common I. Think for for me the way that I've kind of changed it also semi or however you about it is that we litter it's again like a motivation of health and like the real health not weight loss like we need to eat something to be healthy like So it's also the same. We have to move to be healthy and and whatever your because I think the real, the the part, the part that. We need to find is to replace the motivation and that's that's really the piece because the motivation is the weight loss. What is what is? It's almost more empowering to even say, no, I'm not doing to lose weight him doing it to be healthy and like making those opposites is an is something that's been kind of helpful for me and even you said you've told me like your whole life you linked to walk and like just walking for twenty minutes like I remember used to texting in those kinds of things. So it's helpful. So it's interesting that you say, yes I did use to in theory I. Guess I do like these things I did I guess I do but it's the it's like the fact that it's been so. Tied to like periods of losing weight where I like up the walking and. It's like I, because of the Yo Yo nature of my life, it's like I associate like lack of dieting with like being completely sedentary Lazy Unlike Movement is something that goes along with restriction. So it's like all of these things are sort of like cemented together. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the same way that when you say you're anti diet, many people often reflexively think, oh, you're anti health anti diet or your intuitive intuitive eating must mean like binge eating right but at the spectrum, it's nuance there's there's shades of gray all with all of this like we said it's constantly evolving, but it also just might need that you need to find a way of movement whether it's like A. Full on workout class or walking in a new environment like hiking instead of just on the treadmill that you enjoy because you're not going to enjoy every day especially when it's hard especially when your muscles are burning and you're sweating and you're tired or you're just not feeling a workout that day. But if it's something that you know once you're doing it, you're going to enjoy it. So maybe it's chance cardio maybe it's Maybe it's cross it. But. Every. Natalie thing but it's not my thing certainly, but it is many people's things you like. Sandbag. Happy Too Much, sad. Out. Finding, something that you enjoy you're much more likely to stick with it. I'll tell you what I like to do I like to turn on music and like dancing my room in order and no one's there. Okay. I like and it has to happen by accident I can't you? Know literally dance like no one's watching and that's what makes it up. There's there is a chapter and intuitive eating about exercise. So Samuel You keep saying read the book read the book. I get that. It's like so it's harder. It's not the same as like approaching eating because when we were intuitively eating like looking for satisfaction in like a pleasant way. But like you were saying how unlike when you work out, it's not always. Easily kind of unpleasant. It's like Labor. Yeah. So it's work. It's work. So it's it's hard to focus on satisfaction as like your first who but. I think that that's the easiest way to start is really where can I be satisfied in moving my body saying same like dancing even if you're just you know just like swaying. Well, IT'S I. I like to do like little ballet moves. Such an idiot like I'll never show anyone I don't care that I. Look like an idiot it's not for anyone. Exactly accolade and it's also you know it's important for our muscles to stronger us to build bone density and to. Keep our heart strong as we age. Those are all super important reasons to move but it's also about embodying and getting connected to your body like I said, a lot of people tune out especially when we're living our whole lives on the computer and we're not. Walking to see someone not going to events. It's even if you're swaying if you can really feel into that sway, you can feel your feet grounded pressing through the floor, your body moving to the you know the pace of your breath whatever it is that's accounts. That is good for your mental health while there whether it is super blatantly obvious or not. This episode is brought to you by broadside. Ride sign is a better way to shop for bridal gowns and bridesmaids dresses. They have free styling services to help brides and bridesmaids designer bridal party. Look every bride is assigned a real stylist who will work with them for months even years leading up to their wedding they've got dresses for every budget and body. Type size inclusive up to size thirty two and sell everything from top designers like Jenny you and Desi as well. Their own exclusive collections there bridesmaid dresses start at ninety nine dollars and bridal gowns starting at one thousand to make shopping easier during Cobra. 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It's out like. That I, depend depends on what you're qualifying as exercise like showing up to zoom class or an online video or like a class as exercise or you're not walking at all the entire month like you're not walking in all the it's. Like not not walking all but like you're not like. Like, there's no point where you're like, I'm going to do this activity of movement that I don't need to do to literally got myself from Point A. to Point B. Well, that's where I feel like it is similar to intuitive eating because it's like even if you eat what was the example in your last five, even if you eat grilled cheese every day for a week. You're no longer going to want that grilled cheese. Your body's going to be like, okay I need a vegetable I need something else your body is going to start to crave movement. You're going to have cramps you're going to have low back pain. Sores yeah. Your body is GonNa. React I have really just not worked out I. Think it's also harder now because we're working from home, you're in one place all the time, and like normally I know when we go to our office SIMI walk. Far like with Bruce and stuff like that is movement it's not like. Going rather me now it's harder to do to like to prioritize it because. Because it actually is. Like I feel like I'm really I keep saying I WANNA I WANNA buy treadmill. I. Want to buy a treadmill. I've nowhere to put it. But I I struggle walking in the city with my dog I I have. Irrational fears but. I Like I, my body's creating wanting to walk always craved wanting to go on the spin by that's. Grateful that I have that. But I think you'll like you're saying like it'll come like it's a wave of. I need to move I feel like A big mess. Also, not a bad thing to take breaks at all like you not feeling inclined to move was been like a week or two weeks since months you're letting your body might just be you know. Recuperating from the mindset wanting a dieting. I worked out like I worked out for probably the past three years. I didn't skip a whole week like the whole like probably for three years. And that was all because of weight loss that was none of that was because of of like. Because I felt like it. But. Something you something you've written about is that exercise can help like he'll negative body image. How does that work? So a Lotta people like says level take that as like Oh. Your body images healed because you're working on your losing weight, and now you don't have a body image problem but that's not. Because you can you can lose all the weight and you can be assize that. Maybe you're not DNA genetically programmed to be, but still be unhappy. So the way that exercise actually can increase body satisfaction is you're basically like I said, reprogramming communicating to your brain time. You do something difficult that you can do tough things that you're strong it's it's empowering and. Might, not feel like you know in that moment when you're doing that side leg lift in a class like I'm empowered by doing this. But each time you continue pushing through it though it's uncomfortable even though you know maybe you don't. particularly. Love the feeling of your but being on fire. It is sending a message to your brain that you know you you follow through you. Basically. Improving your sense of self and that turns into body satisfaction. With question why hasn't that happened to me? All be years. Because you were prioritizing the weight loss in your head was in that place I would. Okay. Okay. Fair and there's a reason that you know it's marketed to us like that. It's because it works it gets people to show up because we're so terrified of not being worthy or accepted by society you know and that's a simplification. But on a deep level, we are very afraid of not being loved and so if we're told through marketing language that losing weight is GonNa make us lovable. We're not gonNA miss a workout and it works. That's what helped people make money. But it isn't actually the the full picture and in many cases is super unhealthy to be working out for weight loss all the time. So then how what's the how do we refrain that? What is it that we should be working out for like what would be the sentence that we could keep our heads? I like to say that I'm working out to take care of myself for me time to manage my stress to you know not kill my fiance in our tiny apartment. There's it's personal and it could change shrimp day to day and sometimes. I put on my workout clothes. I show up to class I, do have that weight loss mindset in my mind because it's just like negative body image thoughts are never going to go away negative or instinctual diet. Things are never gonNA permanently go away. Tell you respond to them. So I'll catch myself being like I really need to work out today we drank a lot of wine this weekend or whatever, and then I'll be like. Okay. That is an old thought that's not serving me what I do know that I'm I'm feeling anxiety, and if I move I'm going to not only feel my heart rate like regulate. But I'm going to fuel refresh and anxieties a very physical thing i. think we can all relate to. It's a physical experience. So movement can help move out of your body. I. Also, just another thing is that I can find it sometimes really hard to just like set intentions for your movement or whatever it is because you feel very disconnected to it especially when your motivation has always been weight loss. Like what I'm finding is that just saying, let me just go run or let me just go move because there's something in you. That makes me that's making me WanNa do it but I don't really know why. So we're going to do it and then I feel like the intention will come can come after it doesn't necessarily have to be defined upfront because like it's sort of the same thing like when in when ingratitude work you're just like rate something dire greet before like I don't know. At first I, don't know how to like my life. I don't know might my dog But then once you've practiced a lot then because we're on the more, it becomes obvious were nuance. You truly do feel grateful for those things. It doesn't become like some. It doesn't feel like BS. So sometimes that stuff comes after. An I agree, like the way losses. Bear though. I think that you know you said unless you're training for something why would I work out? You can make little training goals for yourself like I wanNA hold a plank for a minute. I want to get through this class without or this sequence maybe without taking a break. If you set those little milestones again, not only is that going to communicate to your brain like I'm doing something I'm excelling at this thing that I can control in a world of things that are out of my control and a much healthier way than being like I can control losing this much weight in a in a world that's out of control. Obviously, there's A. A bad side to that continuum. But if you if you set little if you game a fi at basically for yourself, it becomes a much more enjoyable experience. One, what are? Some tips you think that you've implemented to accept and love your body more there. Any Movement? I, don't. Yeah I mean it's I. It's so cheesy and I know everyone groans when I say this but affirmations because the same idea as gratitude work when you're. Reinforcing this idea in your brain that you're thankful for the things you have or you're thankful for your body and what it can do for you. So affirmations really really powerful. I. Wrote a blog about this actually about how to use affirmations when you're working out. So sometimes, I'll also Q in class like each time you stand like fuel really powerful in that stance, feel like the chest opening your heart opening in a proud posture. This is proud position. You're proud of your body happy because we'll just sat us. Exactly, but there is you know depression on a little tangent here at depression. There are visual physical signs of depression in its that like feel posture it's protective. It's the feeling heaviness suffered from depression. It is a as much about your mental health as it is about a physical experience the same thing as anxiety. So when you think about what the opposite of a depression posture looks like it's like it's standing tall in that like you probably heard that Ted talk from a million years ago about power posing. Like it's it's nice. Open collar bones. Yeah. Spreading your arms up Ryan taking up space movement allows you to take space and there's a really great book that I think you guys would love called the joy of movement. That opened up my mind to a lot about this as well, and she talks in that book about how? Moving in sync with other people you know when you take a fitness and unfortunately, we're not able to do that in real life right now. But the act of breathing and moving in sync with other people builds community and the the mirror neurons in your brain actually like. Get confused by seeing a big group of seeing people moving together and you're taking up more space because you're doing the same movement. So you really are allowing yourself to be bigger to be more scene. So there is like a science thing to it. That's really cool. That's interesting. That might be why Avi loves group work out. Cleverness quietly. On Yeah. So cycles perfect example. You're doing choreography together to the beat of music. Music is a whole other layer, the sports psychology so Guy Loved Music I. Love Dancing even though I didn't even really care like wasn't really. I just liked being on beat with all the other people when you do a dance class, it's so fun. When everybody kind of gets it. There's like, yeah, I at the end of it so you could. Really. See that. You. Dance alone. It's funny. Sammy there's so many funny phrases that could apply dance to your own drummer whatever. Idioms. Them called like a different drummer. That's me in the coroner. To, my mirror. Have you guys heard about Netflix's new show Emily in Paris starring Willie Collins from Creator Darren Star. The series is a romantic comedy and fish out of water story surrounding emily and ambitious marketing executive who must navigate cultural nuances, office politics and romance in the magical city Paris. Emily unexpectedly lands her dream job in Paris on her company acquires a French luxury marketing company, and she is tasked with revamping their social media strategy and least new life in Paris is still with intoxicating and badgers surprising challenges as she juggles winning over her work colleagues making friends. And navigating new romances set in the world of luxury Parisian Marketing Emily in Paris is for every person seeking a feel good romantic comedy full of style complex relationships while finding yourself in a new city part sex in the city part, the Double Wears Prada and mixing younger. Any fans of those are sure to enjoy this aspirational and escapist female lead workplace and Relationship Comedy Alien. This show sounds like incredibly up our alley like literally that's what I was just thinking I'm so to say I, love all of these things sexy Sadie, Delaware's product and younger. And I love Lily. Collins, she's great. We just tell you when I was in I. Guess. Just, senior year of high school I bought this last that Miranda. Wore. The dollar probably like that's how serious about this type of content. So make sure to watch Emily Harris in your Sunglasses Sammy streaming only on net flicks. Let's some non scale with. I'll read a D., steer Non Skill Win I. Okay. I love you guys and I have a onsite went to share. I have fluctuated my entire life to the point where I don't really know what I look like really late. When I get dressed to go out usually like what I'm wearing initially, but I'll take one last look at myself a minute before I leave and feel like I look terrible fat stupid forever letting myself where insert shirt jeans shoop etc I'll change into my tried and true outfit moments before leaving my apartment in Amman annoyed with myself that I wear the same outfit all the time. I have now made a rule for myself that I am not allowed to give myself a final look because I know it will always lead me feeling bad and making myself change. My New rule is my new rule is if that I liked it initially the outfit is cute I went out tonight in a short I've owned for months but have not allowed myself to wear because I don't feel one hundred percent perfect in it, but it's been sitting in the back of my closet. I'm so proud of myself and I even got a few comments on style for the night. Thank you guys for making it clear to me that confidence and style hand in hand. I feel bad. We. Have you spear I know what she's talking about. It's like you put on the outfit and then there's like. and. Then all of a sudden it transforms like, yeah, for your eyes until like a horrible outfit and. It sort of reminds me of like when you take a Southie on your phone and like right before you take a selfie look good and then in the Selfie you look bad it's like this weird psychological transformation that kind of happens like at your second look at yourself. Totally. I. It's good and then and then like a few minutes later. Or when you're out at, you see a photo and you're like what? The fuck this is what I look like Oh my God I. Wish I could go back and change like I literally that happened to me. Recently and I loved my outfit in the Mirror, I even checked like two different mirrors and I was like Oh do i. really look this good. It's like this. It's like there's lack of trust in yourself from from the GECKO and then you're like, all right I'm GONNA go out in it I like it menu. I like it so much take a picture of me, and then in the photo, it's not what it was like in the mirror and you're like Oh, my God do I was like, should I go who can change like? And it doesn't even matter like first of all, I didn't go back and change, but it doesn't matter and it's also this feeling of being. So loosely tied to something that's external photos how we were talking about last week about photos are actually kind of toxic. These photos are what the mirror says. It's not like looking inward for that body for that confidence. So there were no photos would there be a culture. Like there wouldn't be able to be advertising for it. Like. Salad because he'll about themselves back dating back to like another good book, you should read his fearing the block body black body by Sabrina strings. Dating, it's all about art history and dating back to the Renaissance and the objective of occasion of women in there. It was still there even without the modern. Great. Thank you for. Letting US know. Pain We that's so funny. Can you just made me with a little thinner with your breasts? Oh my God I can't believe you think I look like that. Yes real got is King Henry the eighth and his his. The portrait. Average. Picks wife based off of like an oil painting and he's like she doesn't look like this. He did that I'm a big English history but he did that with an cleaves basically, he didn't like the way she looked. She she didn't look like what you look like in her painting and he. Like the dating. A. Much around my scalp. I struggling with one. Subway. Honestly, this week has been a little bit rough in terms of just being like a little bit down. I don't know I'm feeling the effects of just like being like I. Don't know I just been waking up with headaches. Maybe my non scale win is just not really judging myself for feeling like Shit. So not being like, Oh, you need to immediately feel better like sort of just allowing myself to. Kind of feel it. would. Be. Good for you. Listen wins. Every we were like I thought we were being super vulnerable about are like you know feelings that's a win yesterday. And the day before we were talking about like our our shit our Shit I. Guess. So yeah, that's what I mean is just because I'm allowing myself to feel it. I'm talking about it. You know what? I mean act of instead of the the norm which is shutting it down. Being, in denial and trying to do everything in my power to not feel like down. I think the win is that like maybe in the past in those conversations, it would have just come across as like a shallow complaint of like I. Feel like Shit. that it would have been like they me too. But there wouldn't have been any sort of like. It was just that like yeah. That would have been as far as we went. But I think yeah, I think my win also goes to like I. Haven't done. Don't feel like I've been really intuitive in my eating in this last week at all. I've just been eating to cope and lot with. Eating to cope and I think maybe the wait is, is that I recognized it and not really judging myself for it I'm just like, yeah. Does make sense just huge not yet big. It's a big thing actually I say this is my private clients to to like really make sure you're taking the time to I. Love that you do this in the podcast to congratulate yourself on those little moments in real time because that turns into motivation to continue doing it or working out. You know when you're feeling like possibly have the motivation to keep doing it like this. Yeah. Helen, what's your win? For me I think you know like I said it's just because I I teach. This doesn't mean that I don't struggle with it myself and so for me I've been the last few periods cycles I've been trying to. Adjust my workouts to where I am at my cycle and often I'll still find myself being like, no I wanna go for it. Also because I've had a lot of stress in twenty, twenty two. I've been more inclined to do like a hit workout but I really paid attention this week and I just stuck with pilates unlike Mile Austral release work and My Body feels amazing. I have to say I'm super grateful for. WALKING BY WALK That's great. What is my old fashioned release? Where can you just? So it's like foam rolling or using like t a massage ball gained muscle right the Fascia role fashion at the young. Yeah. To Roll Right. Cool Nice. CONGRATS. it's it's hard to be like intuitive. Now it's just feel very we were just saying like episode. It's just feel very associated for myself world the computer everything. Sammy. What is your way? Okay. So this is An interesting when In my like attempts to outsmart myself. to actually eat intuitively be mindful and. Yeah So for the debate, I was like feeling really anxious that shit in start to like nine thirty and it was like. Horrible obviously. But like right before I I I lean dinner dessert but I was like, okay I feel like I'm GonNa eat pizza for this like not actually hungry but like I just feel like I need to have like A. or I need to have it like. Just in case you know just in case you're marginally earns reserves. So I went back and forth I was like am I gonNA order basically a second did right now when I just had dinner and I was like, okay I really feel like I feel a need for like and I was just like, okay I'm just going to get it and I had it and literally I had like one normally the reason I was afraid to get is because i. Have a pizza on my house without eating like at least three or four slices like minimum, and then I have to and it's even wonderful. But I only had like Clayton plan yet clean plate club. But like the other night I only have one and a half slices and just like shopped when I was done but I felt that there was something to having it there as like a security blanket till I know that I could it wasn't like I just said to myself like, no, you're not ordering it. I like allowed myself to like go there to do something like extreme. And we should so order a second dinner and. Yeah and it honestly like it made me feel like less obsessed with it because it was like there. Yeah and then I had breakfast the next morning. Yet like intuitive in the in the or even said like as long as two because the intuitive eating is a privilege because it's based on the fact that you have access to the food and the whole point is that you should feel your fridge and your approach do dussault fill your pantry so that you have access to those things. So you know that there because otherwise it's just this like I have nothing my house I'm restricted by just WANNA order everything. Deprivation. I didn't have to think through like also the financial implication of like ordering an extra pizza for not really any good reason is like obviously a privilege that like. Didn't play. that. That's in play into like whether or not I could have it. So yes, that is definitely a privilege. That is something that like if I did have to also think about like. Maybe not want to spend this money that would have played into like a maybe a feeling of deprivation also. Right. He's as good though. Had Really Pizza this week actually you need all the support, you could get for that debate and. That's also part of it. I forgot that was even this week feels like. Last week but it was what two nights ago. Nights, ago. Oh boy but I'm so thank you so much Helen for joining us today. Where can people try your work? Where can people follow you? Where can they download your APP? What? What's on your tell us every Israeli so my instagram is Helen v Phelan No, it's P. H.. E. L. A. N. since feeling is a tricky a tricky phonetic sound and my app you can find through my through my instagram, my website, and you can find the the web version of the studio there or the office in the apple store and the Google play as vouches Helen Phelan Studio area original I now. So there's a discount codes he. Can Join Helen Feeling Studio and that's just diet starts tomorrow and there's a ten day free trial for everybody. But that code will get you fifty percent off your first month too. So but love to see over there But on the APP, it's it's primarily pilates because that is you know my modality of choice but I also each do a full and flood as workout a quick cardio workout for times. When you feel like you just need to sweat, you just need to blow off some steam you need to. Dump around it and then I also livestream once a week on the APP and I do separately as a lives Zim class on Wednesday nights as well so. You can really choose the workouts intuitively that set up so that you can filter by class length by equipment by intention meaning like do you WanNa feel Energized balanced stronger so that it's reinforcing this idea that you are. Choosing a feeling for your body than choosing a look for your body but all the workouts thinking while all of the workouts can be done with just body weight as well. Just because I know I offer props to get a little bit more out of it but I also know that we're. A lot of were not anticipating having to set up on gyms this year. So it's important that you're able to still get that feel good benefit of moving even without fancy I. Love Your you call wait like wait equipment props because that's like really really funny it's like. Didn't even think of that. I love that you said that because maybe it's like sort of redefine the whole thing for myself like maybe it's a second look. Well. I also something really. Cost you exactly by was I was just coming into this came into my head that something really nice about working out at home. This year has been no mirrors full-length mirror in my bedroom, but it's not set up in the living room space where I'm where I'm working out filming and I mean there's this whole other aspect of seeing the videos that I'm uploading for me to watch. But I'm not staring at myself in a mirror and I've been staring at myself in the mirror spend since I was three years old so it is really nice. To. Engage in movement without. Picking It's a great tool for alignment and making sure you let your you're doing the move crackly, but it's also it also hinders your ability to feel where your body isn't space and trust your body. So That's interesting I was just what say that. So interesting because like again, like that whole external versus internal look to the mirror to see if you're doing it right versus. Looking kind of it sometimes helps to see if like you're in a full actual plank. But if you think about what you wanted to be a plank like hips in, you know that whole thing than you could kind of look inward that's interesting has that like something's missing I think in the beginning I was more like like I I'm not GonNa, know what I'm doing and granted. I do have a pretty good sense of body awareness just because this is what I do. I'll do all day, but it's it's habitual and I do feel like it's been really nice for I'm sure there are parts also I have no trainer looking after me anytime you're working at home your alignment may not be as good as if you're on a private one on one session, but that's not feasible for a lot of people but the better you get at self-correcting in the better you get at feeling where your body is in space, the less that is going to be an issue. That's cool. Think about that more. Well, thank you so much for joining us and everybody go follow Helen. Follow. Tomorrow Follow Ilene at elite. Sammy Sammy Email At fetches dot com go by our staff on sharp edges dot com slash collection slash dst, and great reviews inscribe and we're always with you thick and thin. Tomorrow was hosted by a Cooperman and Sami fishbone our editor. Sean. Kilby. Our podcast producers are my cost Rally Sean, Kilby and Carly Rice and artwork is by Britney Levin. 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"It. S. O. Too. Much. Well Hello. Welcome to watch crap in the podcast for all that crap. We just love to talk about on Eel Bravo. It's me Ronnie and ban is here to. His Zoo, all is army those. Or? Your auto body everybody. Welcome to emily. In Paris Day from net flicks. If you're wondering why the Hell isn't this Bravo show because Bravo is being lazy okay they're not putting out shows So we're expanding a little beyond we've done selling sunset. We're doing great British baking show right now in that flakes were doing every episode of that subject that. We just did class action park on Hbo Max You can look for that we did by octopus teacher. Yeah that it's been kind of fun. We're sort of like you know we're just like sampling all these different things. I mean Class Action Park and also March documentaries they are fully formed things but we thought since we have a little gap and are scheduled this week and since everyone is talking about emily in Paris we thought let's let's recap the first episode why not? Let's do it so that's what we're doing. So this show is Rapids undermanned. Oh yeah on crops on demand. But so you hi, we're on video don't only pray the same thing we're in the last crap it's on demand because it's a sank day I changed my shirt, the allusion that we're recording on a different day but you kind of pop that bubble a little bit. So I'm wearing my short that one of listeners gave me. Books. Square books, in Mississippi, cool. So anyway, yeah. Go to paycheckproof dot com slash watcher crap in bed on demand, and you get access to this glorious video as well as our wonderful wonderful discord community, which is lovely. Hide everyone out there and also bonus episodes. Yes, everybody. So let's get into this Emily Harris I'm just very excited to talk shit about the show. Such a bad show I want this show to die in a fire. Okay. Story to come out of the sky and hit this show I. Hate the so wanted to die. Okay. I'm done for the day. That's why we're the same thing. I can just leave now. It's such. It's such a bad show. I'm now three episodes into the season because I can't stop watching I don't know why you only get so. Oh yeah like it's so watchable It's like I hate it. I hate watching I'm not invested in any of the story lines I'm invested in. Heating Emily Emily is like the worst she liked represents the worst of America and I think that we're supposed to be on her side and be like clapping every time she tells off French people but unlike fully on the side of the French people who are like, who is these little tramp? because. She is so awful. She's so like it's not that she's condescending it's just so entitled just comes over there like. It was like this is should do things this. I should do things jog in the park and it's not like she's going over there to save lives. Okay. So we open she's going over there for social media. It's not like she's the only kind of doctor who can do the certain kind of baby heart transplant and that's what she's bringing to France. You know she's bringing fucking social media to France, like fuck. She is and on top of that like her character, and also the way that her character is acted by Phil Collins. Daughter. Oh fucking. A At the truth is Phil Collins Daughter. Our daughter. We'll talk about someone who's used to being hated member when Phil Collins like that's it. I'm not doing anything anymore. Hey me. Getting into dangerous territory. Called Fan, so you'd better be careful to work. But remember when he had. He had a temper tantrum because people are mean to him online like he had a full on fight here I'm GonNa look it up Phil. That's true. He did. That's okay. He's like old and in chronic back pain. I. Think he's allowed to have a Tantrum. I saw him in concert last year and. He the entire concert on a stool, and except for in the air tonight, he got off his dual he can barely walk now but it was great. You know I don't I don't want him to not be able to walk or anything. I'm trying to find temper tantrum he had. That's why I'm being silence is Collins really such a bad dad. Came Up I. Looked at Phil Collins. Temper Tantrum, and here's the headlines that came out a chorus of disapproval profile. Phil. Collins. Said Phil Collins be celebrated or vilified Phil Collins reveals drumming injuries, Conga West. Mash it goes off. Phil Collins. So. There's a Tantrum big compared to phil calls by Congress. So there you go. temp temper Tantrum over reclining seats on an airplane. I don't know why that's in here. Love that. Love the okay. I'm Ben. Is Collins really such a bad bad. Well Actually Phil Collins has a hot son who is now in his band I will say that so. I've just forgiven you feel calling. Hate Phil Collins I remember him having a fit because people were so mean online he's like fine. Then I won't do anything anymore I'm just not going. To me. and. So of course, his daughter is playing the most obnoxiously positive person ever born you know. Now, I know some people who work in like the role that Lily Collins is supposed to have emily and. It's just funny because Emily's persona does not match every sort of social media. Expert not expert but like uh social media, you know marketer. Whatever position is she doesn't reflect that it's like this is this is a show about being this is a character that's being portrayed by someone who's never worked in an office. That's what I'm trying to say clear she has never been in an off never stepped in one like she has taken every meeting in her life at a cafe like she doesn't even know about you don't even know what a cupola she thinks. It's a type of ice cube like this is someone who has not seen in office ever. Yeah. I can see that and she's super positive and I you know I was with you where I didn't know. Do they want me to hate it like I'm not sure like is she going because like I'm not someone who only watches Classy TV I mean, what are you listening to watch? So I watched trash all the time I watched the ID channel Okay I love a murder show and they're about well as well acted as this is like she's very much like a girl on an ID channel. Show. Oh. My God, I'm going running in the morning. Doesn't look like she has the strength to run like she's just as little pinky of a girl and she's out there running like some puffy jacket and you know it's like showing her apple watch bands like her. Her her activity bands everything about that first scene is go fuck yourself, and also I can't wait to see who murders you in thirty minutes. Channel. I actually think oddly enough I think all the other actors in the show seemed to actually be really good. But she is just she gives like hardcore assistant energy not like I am someone who's been working at a firm for several years the point where I have a position, a position that is like good enough for me to be sent overseas to oversee a transition of another company. Right? She's giving like full-on like Oh my God it's my first job. So as you said, the show opens up in Chicago with emily running along the river or the lake I should say. And then she likes. Jogging my puffy jacket and then she stops and she goes run complete and I don't know I just like annoy her because I know that if I were just like walking along and I saw someone just stop and say run complete into their watch I'd be like fuck you keep it to yourself. Yeah. But the drowning is just beginning young lady. So yes. She's running and then this seat now my notes on this like because we were just talking about this lightly on a bonus episode number recapping at I'm GonNa ask Ben a lot of questions sorry to Jack. Anybody crazy. So when do we get to the sexist boyfriend? Is He right now? No not yet here I will take care of the scene transitions that animal felons as I as I wrote like every single detail I was like sheet her shoelace came on tied and then she walked three steps and then she looked at her phone. So so then we go to we go the office and she's walking down a hallway with Kate Walsh who plays woman in Madeline, and she's like Madelyn Urine, an ad week your how do we as just like? At Me Am. I. What is the say I'm? So Sir someone is social media doesn't know that they're in ad week do not remember doing the interview for ad. We did they tell you the fucking article with coming out and add your kate walls. No she well, she wasn't interviewed. She was just mentioned because emily right here in the movers and shakers section of Ad Week. So they have this big clunky exposition where she's like reading the newspaper and she's like. It says here that our company called company. ABC. Just acquired savoir in France and now you will be heading up the team to transition Sadler to American. Sanders for the next year. That's what you'll be doing and they mentioned you movers and shakers. And Kate Walsh. It's like listen I can't wait to move to France. I've been wanting move for France. Forever I'M GONNA fuck everybody I said France you. Can't wait I love your show. I'm like, yes. Yes. Kit Walls fucking young guys in France I am on board. Is just ready to fuck the entire world. I just watched kate walls I watch her other show that's on right now called the umbrella academy on Net flicks. So she's on that. Yes, she's the bad guy she's so good is. Made me to watch that show again because I watched the first episode and I was like, I can't I don't know if you'll like that show or not. It's pretty cheese small but it's I I mean I like it. I was like on the fence the first episode they had this really hacky scene where they all start dancing to like a catchy song and I was like that's every episode. Yeah. It was just like one of those things like it was like the most obvious thing like Oh isn't this clever. Like. Outside they'll play a song. It's like it's duck. Or if someone gets angry, they like. Angry, they're really on the nose kind of a show. On Like, that big tall muscular dude but I don't know about the rest. So so so so anyway, Emily's like by the way we have a presentation that we have to make, and here's my idea we it's about that like IBS drug how about we have a social initiative to add meditation your medication see I used two words with 'em and I change a few letters in them I take medication. So I don't have to do meditation. Okay. It's called Valium it's called fucking with one I like to sleep to ambient. Okay. Smart some of that. Yeah Socio so Madeleine has this new fragrance that she got from a client that's bad is handled by the French firm set. And she's like, Hey, try this. What do you think and Emily? It's like. It's like. Wearing poetry. Shut up. We quiet. And is a kate wash like. Like she into it, she's like. She goes no the exact obstacle. I'M GONNA use that I'm gonNA, use it. Now let me smell it like does this spell weird to you and then she throws up in a wastebasket. And she's like listen you've got a really good idea. I think you should pitch it to the I think you should pitch today and she's like what? I would never WANNA step on your toes Kate. Well, what are you gonNA character are you take Kate Walsh down okay. I need you to. YOU'LL S- gang and taking your job. You've been out fucking twenty people I'm going to take your Tom on young pretending to be positive. But I'm written by Sidney Sheldon and I'm GONNA rule the world but no, she's really nice I don't like it. She's Nice. Yeah. She has like no corporate. So then then she goes to a, it's now we're at the bar and it's like this sports bar and everyone's cheering because of something that happened with the cubs and so she so emily meets up with the sky an a shirt and tie watching cubs games already I don't like this guy because this is the way it goes movies. a woman has a really good opportunity but does a guy who like. A sports team and hangs out at sports bars, and then gets like all annoyed that she wants to like leave. You know I'm like, okay. Here we go me and she doesn't even tell them her big news until it's like a break in supports you know. This guy. Okay. The Boyfriend Doug. I can't. It's like he went to the it's like Hollywood is disgusting we all know that right and they have cast and couches. It's like they use the opposite of a casting couch to find. It's like how can we find the most sexless human being of all time? It's like, no keep your clothes on just be sex on the couch. You're sexists enough. All right. Come on. You GotTa Kid. Got It. So. He's like let's get some beers. She goes wight wine and anything French. If you have it I was like okay. This does not mean. Okay. Settle down settle down. You're like I. Think maybe it was her way of dropping a hand, but she doesn't really do it that way. She's just like, Oh, now that I'm going to France I'd start drinking French wine. And she's like, Hey, I've got news. I'm going to be going to France to sell new fragrance. It's like meditation in your medication. French. Wine and he's like blink blink blink sexist link sexless Blake. Okay. He goes in Paris like as if it's like the most hideous thing, he's ever heard it's as if he said by the way, I'm going to a rural village in the middle of Siberia and I've got a study sheep feces and he's like really like Paris that's great. Is that like great? That's like the most amazing thing you have an excuse to go to. Paris. And he's all. Because he's a boy. Watching, the cubs I love how the? Murder shows or in horror movies, they always make you hate the person they're about to kill. They'll be like look it's a gay it's a gay stereotype and the audience is GonNa love watching him get slaughtered or look that girls being really bitchy to everybody. She's GonNa get thought in everyone's GonNa love at you know how they do that I feel like that's what they're doing with this guy they're just making him be so. Ski Ski. Glad she dumps him. You know. Yeah. So then they are walking through the streets because by the way she's been promised will be senior brand manager. If she does this for a year twist my arm, you get to go to Paris for your right they're walking through the streets and she still selling him on the side. Yeah. She's like look look I've you know like they've they've already sent me up with an apartment and I've already made a spreadsheet that can show like when you can visit and when I. Can visit you and all these different things that we can do and he's like wait. Are you serious? You're really serious about this thing I'm like listen Bro, she got an opportunity to live on someone else's dime in Paris for a year and your like not even being mildly mildly supportive. I thought like we've moved beyond this with Adrian. Grenier character and Devil Wears Prada I'll be honest with Jason Waller in the hills okay and now we're back to the boy from being like Oh, really you power s yeah. Yeah he's grossly stupid. So. So. Then she just arrives in Paris right? Well Yeah. I mean, they have like a little more. Well, he has. He has another like undermining boyfriend moment where he goes he goes unless I missed something you don't even speak French. I'm like, you know what? You're a real undermine her and she should dump you as soon as possible. But yeah. So Eyebrows to you just had to get that in there has I really bother me because they're they're saved, which is fine like we all listen. We all have to help ourselves K. but his he's like I want to I want the baby pinky it's like he went into a beauty salon and it's like I just want to little baby finger sticks. Suddenly goes you look worried he has I'm not worried. It's the French you should be worried not necessarily lying but from boyfriend I want him to say I think this is a great opportunity for you go have fun. I will see their in a week or two. Yes, you know. Yeah. So now in Paris now my this Paris. Yeah it's just Paris all the sudden and she's like walking around looking super cute everywhere and so she and it's beautiful there. Oh. My God, it's so beautiful. She has by the way the world's worst iphone case. She has this crazy case that's like had metallic. What do you call those pop sockets? Whatever is just no it's a camera case like it's a case. It looks like it's a camera she's always taking pictures. Actually. Cam Rabbits. She's like hey. I'm in such. Take a lot of. This book you know she can't put it in her jeans. So that's a girl you go out with WHO's always leaving her phone at the bar because she can't fucking fit in anywhere. I can't fit in her pocket. You're you spend your all drunk and yet spend the night to like five in the morning looking for this girl's per found. You know and she makes comments about it all the time like this thing is so big it doesn't fit in my pocket. I don't WanNa hear it anymore go Amazon and spend ten dollars. Okay. On something that's like fits and does this thing where I don't know this is another thing where I'm like are they making us? Feel. Sad or is this supposed to be happy like all the sad selfish that she takes all over the place she's. Like she's sad with them, she takes a Selfie to look like she's doing well, and I'm like, that's so all of us both is that the point or is it suppose I just don't know what the show is. You know I think she is like one of those instagram accounts I would follow for about three weeks and just like rage follow because I'd. Be Like I'm she is miserable, but she's trying to make me think that she's so happy but she's lonely and miserable in Paris right now that's like that's what hurt her account is all about. So she goes to the address that she's been given she's going to be living at and there's like a hot doorman there and he's like, let me take bags. And he looks like kind of a starving. Hugh Grant. Yeah Yeah like like a huge like like A. I'm trying to remember who you reminded me of sort of like Conrad from below Deck Mediterranean few seasons ago like the Boatswain who dated Hannah. Yes had like a little bit or the doormat. That's actually really good call saying that Hugh grant meaning the neighbor who's coming up later but this guy, you're a realtor because she gets out of her car. Driven there she spent the entire ride like does that thing where she rolls the window and six hundred out like a dog and so she liked finally gets there this realtors like. Is these emily let me show you your apartment. So they like they go into this building and there's like the landlady she's like sweeping in the lobby like they just like traffic and all the French all I'm just sweeping. Bubis on dust off. All in like dress like she might eighteen, forty five. So they go up the stairs. So she's on the top floor and there's no elevators they have to go up and so they get to a certain floor and she's like, is this it? His knaw LLOSA's on the fifth floor. This is the fourth floor she's I just slept he's bags up five flights. This is the fifth lar- I'm like. I cannot. Stand Emily. Her her staircase entitlement is off the charts right now I know but it's also. So it's just also so American like we really get screwed over in a lot of ways you know not very proud to be an American, but you don't learn until later in life in the ways that our forefathers screwed us like the measuring system nobody measures, anything like us. You know like, why do we have to have our own measuring system? Why do we have to drive on a different side of the road that literally everywhere else in the world you know like we just decide our own things like. Own our own thing. Okay we're good. We're GONNA call them inches and you guys are gonNA fuck and deal with it. Guess what this is called a mile or things like numbering floors, which is the case right here where he's like no here, the ground floor is called ground and then the second floor is the first. Sore. That's probably been done. The whole time we change asset, and now we complain everywhere we go and look stupid. Yeah, and then she's and she's at, he explains that to where and she got. That's Weird Mike you're you're the you are the guest in this country ma'am, the US top don't say that's weird. Okay. Get over it. No, it gets here to bring America France is going to have that changed by the end of the season. Okay. People are going to call the floor one. Okay and Emily will have one. She will make very serious tweet about it and Macron's wife is. Going to retrieve it and change all of France and if you think that, I'm joking Ron HEC episode to okay. So we'll never see episode two. I can guarantee you outright episode to she gets really mad because she she realizes that the French word for Vagina is live as Jean and she's like why is that a masculine word and she like tweets it out and then macron's wife like re tweets it and it's like macron's wife re tweeted your thing. All My So we'll watch. The. Second. Now. You're kind of me. She is so Bradley. In the second episode there's a scene with a steak I. Anyway we will potentially get that maybe not maybe maybe not we'll see but in the point is this. So she's now in her apartment and she's on the top floor and the top floor is like they're like these tiny teeny tiny apartments because there are made for like the the hell. Essentially their lights yeah. Oh well, we know this the spaces teeny tiny like it is immense. What you're talking about this is not what it looks like. It's a huge apartment I? Mean I thought it was pretty small. He's like look it's pretty small but look at the view and so she looks apps sick all my God the view, and then this fucking guy have they not had Hashtag me to. Like. Is that only American thing because this guy was so gross, he's putting his hand on her shoulder. All are you hungry to drink to Bush friend and she was like, yes, I have a boyfriend not in Paris she was like, no, he's on America's all you have no boyfriend and banners. Oh Lick Era Sir. Yes, she's like and this one is good moments. By now by by maybe. For another time and she's like, no, I don't think. So by not GonNa tip you for bringing up my luggage either by. And then she takes a with Paris behind her hashtag room with a view and then we have like does like super fast pan across the city that's like dizzying as emily and Peres. Yeah. So. Yeah. She's walking to work and she. She goes into work and she's like a two in the lobby and and she's like she encounters a guy named Julian and she's like, hi, hello on your I'm Emily Cooper from the Gilbert and Chicago and he's like. He just looks at her like she's like, would you like Cova? Sandwich? Good. Says she has like a little translator thing on her phone. And I guess he talks to him or whatever in that. He's like Oh disgusting your disgusting. So they call her boss and this lady I'd love her acting user. She's a wrist actor because you never run how their little thing. She gets limp wrists and she just moves them back and forth and that's her fancy acting. She's like look. Fancy Flinch Lady I moved misled teeth. She just. Back and forth, and it's perfection I'm like, why can we not just watch her and her life like she has the most interesting life year? She's just she likes sachets who? With the risks like back and forth and let. And found we walk like this and you'll have to learn. It's also used to walk in fourth grade I'm not long. Let's face it. I can still walk like that. Sometimes maybe I just love seeing it in somebody else. So So this woman, Sylvie, she's like talking to her and French, and you know Emily's like I can't speak at like crazy person with we're non-american language so she's like Oh. Okay. So I was told the the American coming here spoke Franch and she's like, yeah, that's Madeline and I'm Emily Emily Cooper and I'm so excited to be here and she's like there's unfortunate Like what that I'm not hers like that. You don't think Frosh Leira. Chris Stock. Yeah, like hostelries walking around. Makes it other boss or the main the main owner of the company or whatever, and he's like, give me someone who's like Gerard Depardieu ish you know like slightly healthier than Dr Giralda Depardieu. So this guy comes in our mobbed VR the is his name pays Barbara Fouls. and. He's off your from America. Stupid while you are so fat You tell me why you're also fat excuse you sir, you are no little twiggy yourself there. You Might WanNa Watch your mouth. Yeah exactly one too many bats and he's like smoking a cigarette and the office. Just, like Oh, French people smoke everywhere. So here let's haven't smoked cigarettes I looked it up. You can't smoke inside offices in. France. Like that's not you can't I wonder. Wow. They only got rid of that in America that seems weird. He's like we are also fat our land of diabetes and heart disease and she's like, but you're smoking and people die of heart disease and diabetes from smoking to, and he's like a cigarette that is joy and what is life without enjoy mantis. So what do you think food is? I know and I like that like how he's like, Oh, I went to Chicago and tasted deep dish pizzas. How do you say and slow vehicles disgusting? And they're just like making fun of your. Cement she's like Mitt with cheese on it. So I heard that everybody is so mad at this. So right. So queso where people stupidest controversy and I looked up emily. Harris and the first article and of course is from Fox but the first article that comes up Chicago Pizza Chain Lou Malnati's response to dig made a knitting net flicks series emily in Paris. Link Okay Chicago Pizza I don't know that you really need to make a comment. Yeah. You're shaking this show seriously. I mean this is also a girl who sends back her Her her stay in the next episode. So like don't take her like food recommendations to careful too close to seriously restaurant called it heartless. Because she is like because when he's like, Oh, I had deep dish pizza. She was like Oh you probably had whatever it's called. You know because there's like a big rival avenue. And it's A. It's a court favourite for pizza visiting Chicago and search the famous deep dish pizza. The restaurant didn't take joke lightheartedly colleague at heartless amid restaurants struggling during corona virus monotony's is always the I participate in good natured banter with pizza lovers from your California. However, it feels especially in kind to despair everyone during these difficult times given the. Restaurants are struggling to hang on. We've been cervix. ACOG. Owes favorite deep deep sit by seventy one of like okay. Come on come on. It was a stupid joke on a stupid show about Lois saying don't go there because you'll get like a specis poisoning soon, just making it. Yeah. Hey. Next time I go to Chicago Pizza I'm. GonNa say, Hey, Ma, Mahdi's I heard on that. Show you know. Maybe, maybe inclined to not go there because they're being such babies about the show. How about that? That I just love it. That's the controversy or at least part of it also, you know what's also what's additionally funny about this is that when this Guy Paul comes in, he kisses her on both cheeks and she's like Oh oh, okay I. Guess we're doing that. Did you do any research before you move to France? Like did you just like look through a single travel guide about? Or did you. See any movies about and it did you ever watch a real house New York, and watch Luanne interact with anyone. Girl your social media did not even search Paris on instagram come. I, understand how people interact in Europe like come on now stopping. So surprised, it's time for commercial. It's time for. Commerce. ASSOC- talks her boyfriend on facetime. And she's like Oh my God having so much fine can't wait to see Blah Blah Blah Paris Paris double on the cheek. WPF and he's she's like I really miss you I hope you can come soon and he's like. And he grabs his heart I'm like I hate this guy hate him he's. Literally grabbing his heart missing him out. Terrible. So but there's also a meeting. So she goes to they had this meeting where she introduces herself the whole team and she's like I let me apologize for speaking English I did Rosetta Stone on the plane, but it hasn't kicked in. A woman just leaves the table. which is supposed to be like. We're supposed to be like what a bitch I get I'm I'm done with this woman. Teller, she doesn't speak English, so he. added. Because I'm just here to change social media. Now, WHO's in charge of social media they're like that lady was. and. They're like, why are you shouting? She's like, oh. Okay. Well, Yeah. So then so she's like Talk About Social Media and this Guy Luke quizzes like frazee gray hair he's like. Defense of the masters of Social Media and yes. But Americans invented it which is why I hope to become a member of your team by adding an American point of view to your fabulous French clients like. I would just like rage quit. I would just. I'm quitting his company at this I I would not be able to deal. Did Americans invent social media I? Guess. So they're California companies right stuff like that. So then. Yes obey basically Sylvia and Paul have like a quiet momento like who is this girl and like Mr like well, we're stuck with her until she leaves Soviet like Well we'll see how long she lasts with me as her boss. Hand Flap hands on. Lab We'll see I'm going to put through things like be kind of Nice mcvay. You're going to have to be way more evil. Ma'am. If you're going to get this girl. So is this where she asked people about Lynch. No. So now she comes home. So now she goes. She's like on a bridge and she facetime with him, and then she sees some people making out and she's like aw, and so she goes home. Finger eyebrows. So she goes home and she slips up the stairs and. Key in the door Oh yes. Yes. Does turn on the lights. Are you kidding me. Are you serious? It's a lights which relax relax. So she's putting the key in the wrong door Emma God. This is where the starving hugh grant it comes. So he opens the door and he's like Ooh and here's another like. You guys need to hear about me too because he's very like. Oh. At all. Oh. Like. Why is this guy creaming? Ready And she's like Oh right I. Forgot this is the fourth floor. Don't you remember the part by how you're on the top floor knows that there's another staircase going up like what is like think about these things emily so She's like I'm Emily Cooper your new neighbor from Sayers and he's like American and she was like we from Chicago he goes. Gabriel. French from Normandy and she goes Oh, I know that beach tim private. Ryan Right. What? Do. You were moving to a new country. Could you just do you just try to be informed? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. So he's all fucking with her. He's like Oh fuck fuck. All y'all. So she goes upstairs and the next morning she go sit a little bakery and of course, this is like such a standard France wearing a French movie because it's You give me about. Spirit like. She's like I'll have. I'll have on. Croissant. Oh Pa. On. Or something like bags. Shorts I am your. I am your I am your belly surly local Baker who turns out to have a heart of gold yes. He's GONNA turn out to be like her best friend who gives her dating advice or something because she's not she's not meanwhile you know what I mean. She doesn't. She's I'm getting like a hug from orderly. Emily. More from you emily doesn't even learn how to pay people. You know stupid like at least learn how to buy some shit like you're Outta town like that's the least you can do learn how to pay. She's like she's like throws a bunch of coins on the table and. Probably US quarters and. Counts out for her and then gives her went back and then emily of course does not even tip her which is just rude as hell. And then she has this this Panel Shock Lot k clearly like. Like it's clearly not even as good as a starbucks a lot like it's like there are no layers. In this thing there's nothing crispy. This is just like soft dough with maybe some chocolate in it actually looked like a starbucks version of one of them you know and I hate when people do this when they have A. Girls Okay. A skinny people shouldn't say skinny girls because that's rude. But like just a thin person who gets fucking chocolate croissant and then they eat it and Eric. God ow. Dewey Shock Lot. crispy nothing off and she's like, oh Yeah. I have take a selfie right now boomerang boomerang boomerang like everything everybody hates about instagram is right. Meanwhile I like him totally boasted so many on instagram. I'm sorry I don't mean you babe. I'm guilty. I have to listen to own up to own a baby So. Then she likes shows up at the office and like she can't get in and she's like ringing the doorbell and just waiting waiting and waiting, and then she calls up her boss and she's like. is today like some weird, national, holiday that you guys forgot to tell me about because I've been down here for two hours. The no one is here at the office. Will call her, and then the assistant guy comes by his because what are you doing here? She's like working I've been here since eight thirty it's like we open at ten thirty. And she's acting all strange like it's what are you? This is their company. This is their hours are at ten thirty but also, why don't you know what time to come to work? Yeah. Now like why can't you can't out change for croissant? Why don't you know what time to come to work? Yeah. What you just assumed doors will literally open for you right like the amount of privilege that she shows and then then she's out then we got to let like now emily at her desk and silvy walks in and she desert-like. flapping in risk flapping, and then emily looks at her phone and we see the time eleven fifteen am, and then we just like razor eyebrows. Like Showing up yes the boss is allowed to show, but you don't know she's probably unlike. May. Have had a breakfast meeting. Emily, you don't care jobs. So. Then she goes over to find Patricia the Scared Social Media Lady and she's like Hi Patricia and purchase. please. No please don't. please. No. Emily. Says into her phone like you know like I'm here to talk about. Social. Media. Emily I'm from America I would love to sit and talk to you about a strategy for social media for all of our merchandising. Blah. Blah Blah. Pitcher she goes. Oh No. And runs away. She saw. Abandoned or something. Pitcher, so then she's So then Emily's starts going talk asking people to lunch she likes like. Would you like to go to launch and Sylvia's like I have a cigarette. Basically everyone says now. says she go eat on the park bench alone? She's like I'm in. France. Let me do something really France with the bad debt on the park bench. Yes, and so she meets this Nandy this nanny, this mammy named Mindy who is teaching Kids Mandarin. So she's just like yelling at the kids in the park and mantra and the whole time. Yeah. Because the kids knock the bag out of emily's hand. Because of course, emily is like just loosely holding a bag out in the middle of a path normally believe the kids but I actually blame emily for this one. So I just don't think that this actress knew how to hold a car I mean they're really making her do a lot of carb work in this that does not eat chocolate croissants. That's She definitely does not she. Didn't even know what it was. Yeah. Try. That for a week. So basically this this woman mindy. Apologizing for the kids knocking the bag out of her hand and so then she sits with her as she starts giving us really clunky exposition. She's like are you from Indianapolis? Cause I'm from India I. Went to school in Indianapolis I mean I'm not from Indianapolis I mean my mom's from Shanghai actually from Korea but I, just came in from Shanghai, I'm like, why are you telling random stranger all the System motormouth and it's like Oh. Let me guess you're from Indiana and I know from Chicago close I was close. I mean you just six Oh nine is. CORNFED Sakano. Happy. So she sits down and she's talking about our Perez beautiful here the the the the buildings are so beautiful and the places. So beautiful but the people are so mean you know I'm like. Also I I I've been lucky enough to have gone to Paris twice everyone was super lovely. Nice like literally across the board everyone was so friendly. So I think it's just so funny just like just like you know like doing all this. Super. Married, a French girl you know that, right? refresh me on this one. When was eighteen I lived in Staten Island for a year and like renting a room from this old man and the girl one of the girls downstairs was named cloud the. From France and she wanted we became really good friends but God this girl had such a temper and stuff and she we were in a movie theater once watching a movie and somebody came to sit in front of us and she's like, why do you have to sit there? There's so many seats. Why did you sit right in front of me and he's like I can sit wherever I want because Oh enjoy the pheromone. And so we're sitting there and she is so mad and this guy's eating popcorn shows why why do Americans have to have dealer out this food in the world to eat and movie why and I was like Oh, my God please calm down don't worry honey just calm down and so the movie starts and she starts tapping her foot on the guys chair and then it turns into a kick and they had like. I've never been so like thrilled and terrified at a person on my whole life, and then after that, she's like will you marry me? And I was like that is the most dramatic thing I mean, obviously, it was for a Green, card right. I could totally imagine our life together but my dad's won't let me do it. I'm sorry cloudy and it's last speaking to me Oh. Okay. We'll talk about this show. Well also, it's funny mindy saying how like you know the franchisers so mean because you know Chinese people are mean behind your back of French people they're mean to your face and I just think it's funny that like. The show is like as trafficking in this idea French people are so mean to your face when like literally every reality show we ever watch Ronnie what is the number one complaint that seems to come up over and over again it's like Whoa with you're GonNa save me say it's my face. Say It's my face. So it's like re as a culture are always saying how much we want people to say what they feel to our face, and now we're like, oh, they're mean to your face it's not right. Yeah Yeah, this is pretty Pretty stereotype heavy show it really is. So they become friends they decided to become friends, and then emily goes back to the office. Am Her boss comes back. What's her name? Silva or Silvia because back you know moving a rift half in her hands or APP. But now she's all carefree because on the way home she's seeing emily seeing that everybody went to lunch without her and they're all having this great lunch laughing and having the best time. Emily's all sad time the OH, she goes back to work. About time it's like. I've never seen lunch, depict it as fun as that lodged like. Thing I've ever seen never seen characters. I WANNA. Be Sitting there having the best one. Being back at. Outside. Being. So she goes back to the office. All sad and so her boss comes in flapping her hands and. I'll all blue. Yeah and it was like Bulls Ula. New. And she's like Julianne. What is Luke? Luke main. He's a term of endearment you know. So she's like, okay. So then she google's it and somehow miraculously she knows how to spell look just want to who doesn't even know about kissing on both sides the cheek who only from of reference of Normandy the that was in for saving, Private Ryan, and yet somehow she knows how to spell exactly Luke I don't even know how to spell up Luke and the President French club in my high school. Okay. So she texted him perfectly and it means the Hick Enemies. The Hick which listen it could be worse. Yes. It could have been way worse. Yeah. So she's all sad now and so she goes to the par- she goes kind of to eat somewhere I don't know if she's always eating which is hilarious to me, but she's wearing some restaurant on the water cafe outside. Yeah and this really handsome guy comes up to her and he smiles interfaces. Oh is this seat taken? That's Oh please and she moves her person that he takes a seat because he needed table. Standard ovation to that, Frenchman. He did it. So a little scooter comes down and. With the gray curly hair from her job. Yeah and he's like Oh. Emily Emily. All I'm so so I I do not condone calling you luke it is way too mild. I would much harder much harder. and. He's like you. I'm so sorry people say I you but I think it is because we are afraid of you. You know like maybe are better and new makes look worse or about you know things are different for you because you are from America and in America you leave to work and if false we we. Work to leave. Yeah exactly and she goes well, I enjoy work and accomplishment. It makes me happy which is why I'm GonNa make the new hours for our office eight thirty in the morning. And he's like well makes you happy and she's like it's why I'm here for work and look where it's brought me to this beautiful city where no one gives a fuck about me. Everybody hates me. Yeah so He's like real. Maybe you don't know how to be happy. She goes well, maybe that's a little arrogance and he's like you'll come to Paris and don't speak French that he's our again. I was like, ooh. The. American. Snapple for that. I love a good I. Love a good read on Emily. Suicide good decent. You Emily Goodbye. So He Found his scooter and she's all. The socio it's been calling her boyfriend but he's Busy Bay Busy Bay busy Babe. So she finally gets to sleep and he calls her at three thirty in the morning. She's like you just woke me up three thirty in the morning. He's like, Oh, well, he just got home from work. Let's have some phone sex. Yeah I'M GONNA. Jerk off. Air This idiot. He obviously has enough of like enough brains to work in a place where he needs to wear a shirt and tie but he's not even like the forethought to think like Oh what time is it? It's clearly a different time in France, which is you know half a world away is like, oh a three, hundred more I had no idea. Cubs cubs, cubs, baseball. Yeah because before they were talking in early afternoon. So what time would that have been for him? When in the middle of the night for him? Well, no shoot when they when she called him issue is evening for her and so it was like afternoon for him and that's what it was like walking around. He's like I got my passport. So. He takes off his shirt and his leg. Yeah. Let's like jerk off together on facetime. So they're doing it and like she's like I'm just so overwhelmed and brawny. Wacky French telecommunications their facetime froze. Their facetime. What froze. WACKY old buildings they're bad. Well, I got it. He came because he's like such a Guy Right? He's such a guy on it. She's he's like. Yeah. Baby. I'm thinking about fucking or whatever like here's my feelings and she starts on his feelings and then he comes and then just drops a phone and it turns out He just came was like by. No because there were some like there was some like disruptions while started to have on it started have their mutual jerk off session and but it was like was like she was not listen. He was still being a jerk and not listening to her while they were like, yeah it's tried to call back or anything. It's just such a guy it's like I'm Don. So, see pulls out her vibrator. She's she's like Oh hello you and so she pulls out her vibrator and she plugs into the wall and then it takes out the lights in the entire building. Yeah everything lacks out. Welcome to France emily bones. Can't even Surkov fry emily those crazy European outlets odd. Adapter Emily. By the way you're in a different country like literally just do some basic research about where you're moving. Didn't she didn't. She have to have an adapter to plug it in the first place looked like she had one but I still think. That she had the setting wrong. I feel like she plugged in her adapter but forgot to set the switch to like. Europe it was still on USA or something Oh God. So that's that's my theory. Yeah I don't know I after that I was like, are they saying that Electrobi- is just terrible there or they sing terrible because of her like what is this show saying I? Think it to me it was like they were trying to say look at these crazy old French buildings like they're so rickety with like tenuous wiring. This says anything about this show I looked up emily. Perez like I told you. I looked up emily in Paris cast I would know everybody's name not that that came in handy but every single headshot on here 'cause you know how they put everybody's headshots up in a row on Google. So everybody's head shot they're making the face. Like. Making your face looks like. Every single one be only one laughing is the guy who plays the boss who's like, why are you also fat? I just want Sylvie I. Just WanNa. Watch episodes about I want emily I want this to be like Valerie the show Valerie we start off as Valerie, and then they killed her off me at Valerie's family and then they brought in Sandy Duncan amid the Hogan family I want this to start off as emily in Paris, and then maybe just change it to like Paris or like Sylvie liked just send her back to America, and let's focus on sylvie I love Sylvie to and silvy use a little. what's her name? Who'd you say? Valor Valerie. Valerie. Harper. Yes he if a little. Her face I'm looking at start right now her face A. Bowie. Sheer. 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Patty Hearst Pt. 3: Captive of the SLA

Hostage

59:05 min | 3 years ago

Patty Hearst Pt. 3: Captive of the SLA

"This episode features, discussion of armed robbery, murder, kidnapping, rape and violence that some people may find offensive. Listener discretion is advised, especially for children under thirteen. April fifteenth, nineteen, seventy four, nine fifty a m Hibernia Bank to white women enter dark hair, big jackets, one has long, big curls, the other, a tight Bob. They proceed towards the desk as if to fill out a deposit slip. Two more women follow also in big dark jackets, nothing unusual except for the fact that each of these four women carries a hidden gun. One drops her ammo clip. She kneels to collect her bullets. Suddenly, a black man in a similar jacket jumps over her waving a rifle quote. This is a hold up the first who don't lay down on the floor, gets shot in the head inquiry at his command customers drop to the floor three of the women whip out guns. The fourth vaults over the banks counter and starts grabbing cash. The woman who dropped her clip waves her gun. SLA SLA s. l. a. get down on the floor. She kicks customers and Bank employees as she saunters around to new customers, enter unaware. She shoots to kill, but only grazes her targets. The woman with long dark curls stands directly in the centre of the lobby, perfectly framed on the security cameras. She stands shell shocked amid the chaos, but then remembers her role. She's supposed to shoot. She aims for the ceiling, but her gun doesn't work. Something's wrong with the bolt. If she doesn't shoot, they'll hurt her. Again. She wiggles it. Nothing panicking she yells. This is Tania, Patricia. Hearst. First person puts up his head all blow his head off. This is hostage. The new podcast podcast telling the stories behind the most captivating hostage situations and the people inside them. We'll also cover the psychological tactics used in hostage negotiations and what the human brain does. When held captive, I'm Carter ROY and I'm Irma Blanco. You can listen to all of parkas podcasts on your favorite podcast directory, new episodes come out every Thursday. We're also on Facebook and Instagram at par, cast and Twitter at podcast network. This is our final episode on the kidnapping of Patricia Campbell. Hearst, the symbionese Liberation Army and FBI operation her nap on February fourth nineteen, seventy four members of the symbionese Liberation Army kidnapped Patricia Hearst from her Berkeley, California apartment. They kept her in a closet for fifty seven days until. Still, she joined them in our first two episodes. We followed the kidnapping, the initial communications between the SLA and the Hearst's and the people in need food donation program which was meant to assure Patricia safety individual freedom. However, after two months of fruitless negotiations, the FBI stopped trying to rescue a hostage and started trying to catch a criminal this week. We'll look at the crimes, Patricia committed under coercion and her life on the run. How do you rescue a hostage? Who doesn't want to be found. Some people say Patricia, her suffered from Stockholm syndrome. Other say, she truly converted to the radical beliefs of the s. l. a. Patricia herself says she joined for one simple reason to stay alive. This is clear from the first thing she said when her captors removed her blindfold quote, you're also attractive. They weren't, but she sold the sentiment. This falls in line with former FBI hostage negotiator. Thomas trends is advice on surviving, a hostage crisis behaving since hostage-takers are typically violent capricious criminals. Hostages who value their lives should try to stay in their captors good graces. Shortly after Patricia blindfold was removed almost two months after the initial kidnapping, the SLA got to work using there. Hostage for propaganda. They dressed Patricia in an outfit resembling combat fatigues with a red and black beret. They posed her in front of a giant home-made SLA flag a black, seven headed Cobra on a crimson background to freeze gave Patricia a rifle. She crouched down serious and threatening aiming at some unseen target, but her face is grim and her eyes are distant exhausted minutes. After the famous photo was taken the SLA attacked her identity. They shave Patricia as long hair to less than an inch and gave her a new name. Tonya after Varas rumored lover. They chose it apparently because her rapist Willie wolf looked a bit like chair of our and in the SLA's twisted mindset, wolf and Patricia were a couple furthering. This really wolf gave Patricia. Shia an Olmec monkey charm, which she wore on a necklace Patricia engagement to Stephen, we'd was forgotten. We talked about coercive persuasion. The technical term for brainwashing in part to, but this is another good example of the process. Coercive persuasion works says sensually by breaking down a person sense of identity and replacing it with something else. Here the SLA took away Patricia name her image and the validity of her commitment to Stephen. We'd Patricia was dead. Tanya was born. The SLA prepared their next communicate with Tonya at the forefront. The message was simple half of Patricia driver's license delivered to the office of the San Francisco. Phoenix with a bouquet of flowers into note promising that details about Patricia 's release would follow within seventy two hours. It also included for publication. The SLA's codes of war Notat's. The plan was for the message to go public on April first has a depraved April Fools joke. And fortunately, the florist truck broke down and the message was delivered a day late on April second. No one suspected. The note was lying for the next twenty four hours the Hearst's eagerly prepared for the return of their daughter after almost two months. They finally had a scrap of hope. Hope that was dashed on April third nineteen. Seventy four with the latest tape-recorded communique on the tape. Patricia spoke firm loud and dripping with revolutionary slang. She disparaged her parents, the press the government and her former fiance. Most shockingly, she declared her allegiance to the s. l. a. proclaiming quote, I have chosen to stay and fight once again, the responsibility of responding fell on Randy Hearst. The FBI most likely had Randy take the lead in communications because in one of their first communicates the SLA threatened Patricia's life. Here's former chief of the FBI's crisis negotiation unit. Gary Ness, ner explaining the reasoning for this tactic. Where the kidnappers are threatening very overtly to harm the hostage. I think an appeal from the family can be appropriate in certain circumstances. I am familiar with several cases where we have had some success with the peels of family members who have through their statements painted a an appropriate pitcher of of the hostages being unworthy to be executed. Kathy Hearst, please did humanize Patricia to her captors. The problem was combined with Patricia own efforts. She was humanized too. Well, the plan backfired according to Nestor, that's because of the unique motivation of the SLA difference between someone that is trying to obtain money or release of a prisoner versus some larger political demands. And in those appeals for the most part, have not been successful. The root of Patricia Hearst, kidnapping wasn't a spur charity donation or even to release little in Ramiro from the beginning, it was a twisted way to bring attention to the symbionese Liberation Army. The SLA realized that physically killing Patricia would be bad PR. So they killed the idea of trapped innocent young heiress. The media ate it. Up. The Hurst did not Catherine. Hearst was convinced her daughter was dead. She feared they'd force Patricia to record the final tape and then killed her. She kept this to herself letting Randy make the public statement. His response was simple quote, we're more or less shocked over this thing and until we know more about it, we don't have anything to say he was at a loss. Randy had failed to convince prison officials to allow in prison. SLA members Russ little and Joe Ramiro to appear on TV people in need had run out of funding, whether Patricia was dead or alive. There were no more cards for the Hearst's or the FBI to play the next day. The Hearst travel to Mexico to stay with their friend. Deshea arnez best known as Ricky on. I love Lucy. They needed time to grieve. Patricia may have said she wanted to join the SLA, but one look at their lifestyle would make anyone questioned that the apartment was disgusting. A large one bedroom for ten people stocked with weapons. The disguises and press clippings, the rotated keeping watch for the FBI. So no one ever got a full night's sleep. They all shared one toothbrush, and there was hardly any food despite the fact that members spent their days running sweaty military drills without air conditioning. They mostly lived on beans rice and canned fish that Tricia with sickly skinny. So defrays gave her an unlimited supply of peanut butter crackers to build up her strength. It didn't work. She stayed skinny and exhausted even though she ate much more than her captors, but he didn't need quality food. They ran on adrenaline in passion. With their kidnapping operation officially over the SLA moved onto plotting their next crime, a robbery. According to Patricia, the choice of robbery was trifold won the SLA wanted to prove to the world, Patricia had joined them to. They wanted to prove they were a revolutionary force to be reckoned with and three. They needed money for the next two weeks. The SLA scoped out locations mulling over the merits of holding up liquor stores over local banks. They drew maps, took pictures and made notes on the challenges of each potential robbery. Finally, they settled on the Hibernia Bank in San Francisco for one bizarre reason. It had security cameras, like everything the SLA did. Their goal was to get attention after the robbery. They wanted there to be no doubt who was guilty the SLA and alongside them Patricia. Hearst security cameras were in their infancy in nineteen seventy four, many places. Didn't have them. And those that did didn't record a constant live video stream. The ones in Hibernia Bank turned on when an employee hit a silent alarm and took for still photos. Every second until turned off. Again for reference a video camera takes twenty four still photos per second. When scoping out the Hibernia Bank Bill Harris noted to cameras and diagram be ideal location to be caught on both Tanya withstand there as usual. The SLA had an elaborate plan. Everyone had a number a disguise and instructions to refer to the Bank as the bakery wearing a long wig. Tania's disguised was Patricia Hearst. They memorized maps of the area in case they had to take an odd turn to evade thornberrys. They split in half an inside team and outside team. The insight team, Patricia. Camilla hall, Nancy, Ling Perry. MS moon, Solta sick and Donald d freeze would enter the Bank in that order. Really wolf Angela at wood and Bill and Emily Harris would remain outside armed and keeping watch in case things went awry. Everyone had specific exact jobs that they were Hearst constantly inside their tiny safehouse, the SLA trained Patricia to run fight and shoot through all the preparation, Patricia kept a secret. Hibernia Bank was owned by her best friend's father. The SLA didn't know this, but it was yet another blow against the former identity of Patricia Campbell. Hearst. As we covered in this episode's opening the Bank robbery was ninety seconds of perfectly choreographed chaos. They were in and out between approximately nine fifty and ten AM on April fifteenth, nineteen, seventy four. A witness described quote. They came out like imprecision and they were carrying automatic rifles on their hips. Real military like end quote, also military like the SLA called the robbery, a quote, revolutionary expropriation of the corporate military states property for the benefit of the people's war and quote, even years later, Patricia referred to her Bank robberies as expropriations by the time police arrived and created a perimeter. The SLA was already gone with ten thousand six hundred sixty dollars in stolen cash seventy days into our kidnapping. Patricia was at the center of. Another crime. Safe in their apartment. The SLA turned on their radio to hear this song and spill their stolen cash on the apartment floor rollicking in their sudden wealth without a shred of guilt. VS LA was on a winning streak, but it was all about to come crashing down. Ten weeks into the kidnapping, the f. b. i. made no real progress. They maintained a watch on the Hearst mansion just in case. But once people in need proved fruitless agent in charge. Monty hall shifted focus. The investigation spread across the country according to Monty hall agents conducted thousands of interviews in the Caribbean, South America and Europe, worried that the SLA might have support or find refuge in communist countries like Cuba or in the eastern bloc in their offices. Just one mile away from the SLA's hideout the FBI comb through water and gas records from across San Francisco agents found in interviewed anyone who had recently opened new utility accounts, hoping they could catch the SLA as they moved into another apartment. Holler earned that defrays had a predilection for Akademik Plum wine. So as agents. Targeted liquor stores seeking people who bought Plum wine on a regular basis. Unfortunately, Plum wine is a fairly popular drink. Lastly, the FBI was overly reliant on tips once renting a helicopter after hearing about an SLA operation that never materialized and temporarily releasing Vacaville prisoner who scammed agents into thinking, he knew to freeze hundreds of hours and hundreds of thousands of dollars went nowhere on April twenty four th nineteen seventy four, nine days after the robbery, the SLA released yet another communique. It opens with these same quasi religious greeting. They all did. Big guns, expensive. Would feed them defrays detailed, the Hibernia Bank robbery, stating the SLA still ten thousand six hundred sixty dollars and two cents with the fictional two cents added to confuse authorities. Patricia spoke to a denting herself as Tanya. She stated her willing involvement in the robbery and clarified that her gun was loaded though she had no intent harm anyone to call people in need a bad faith gesture and her parents the pig Hearst's. She broke up with her fiance, calling him a sexist ages pig. Most interesting of all she repeatedly denied being brainwashed. And while she was likely told what to say on this communique, the FBI's behavioral analysis of the Hibernia security camera footage pointed to Patricia acting of her own volition, if they had any doubts about Patricia culpability in the robbery, this tape settled. Them a warrant was issued for her arrest as a material witness. The FBI was no longer looking for a hostage. They were looking for a criminal up next, we'll track their chase. Now back to the story. In late April nineteen, seventy four. The SLA remained safely hidden in their one room apartment on Golden Gate avenue, but to freeze was growing paranoid drinking his Plum wine, all the time. Even though officially the SLA was not allowed to imbibe in any drugs or alcohol. Like many cult leaders to freeze believed he was above his groups rules. He slowly convinced his followers that the FBI was closing in on this apartment and it was necessary to move again, even though this wasn't true, it seemed to freeze himself believed it since every member was now a wanted criminal. It was important to keep moving and let go of material possessions. So in the weeks after the Hibernia robbery, they prepared to move rather than leaving no clues, they decided to leave too many clues. They graffitied cryptic messages on the walls left excess finger. Prints and through old food everywhere they left their documents maps and written plans in a bathtub, full of cyanide, urine and hair dye. The apartment was trashed the middle finger to the FBI almost as soon as they had rendered the apartment uninhabitable yes, LA learned their new hideout wouldn't be ready for three more days. Their solution as usual was absurd. The entire group put on black face except for freeze who dressed as a woman. They checked into a motel staying in disguise for three days before moving into their new safe house in the hunters point neighborhood of San Francisco. During this time, neighbors complained about the stench coming from the abandoned Golden Gate avenue apartment. This prompted a police visit and given the evidence a visit from the FBI quickly followed, even though it was exactly what to freeze planned hearing. News reports of the f. b. i. in their former safehouse was too close for comfort. He grew even more paranoid. Additionally, he'd made the poor choice of moving his eight white followers into a majority black neighborhood. It wouldn't be long before they attracted attention within a week to freeze move the group. Again, this time to south central Los Angeles. Patricia noted that each successive hideout was worse than the one before the Los Angeles house had no electricity, no hot water, no furniture and no kitchen. But once they settled in around may eighth the days continued as before full of military drills in political discussion, there were no further plans for communicate or active revolution. The SLA was lying low around this time to freeze reorganized his symbionese Liberation Army units instead of one team of nine. They were now to act as three teams of three. Patricia was teamed with Bill and Emily Harris, seemingly arbitrary choice that determined the rest of her life. May sixteenth nineteen seventy four just before four pm. The symbionese Liberation Army combat unit composed of Tanya Tico and Yulon data aka Patricia Bill, and Emily was dispatched to run errands. Their plan included buying groceries, buying thick clothes for combat operations and paying a parking ticket. The trio drove off in a red and white Volkswagen with curtains drawn over the back windows wearing the same wig from the Bank, robbery, Patricia crouched in the back surrounded by a cache of weapons. After a few stops Emily parked the car in public lot Bill and Emily left Patricia in the car as they illegally walked across four lanes of traffic to get to Mel sporting goods. It was about four, ten pm. The couple carried pistols hiding behind the curtains. Patricia, read the news. Paper for the next twenty minutes inside the store. Bill and Emily picked up close for the SLA has to freeze had directed them, but something caught bills. I of bullet Bandelier. He pocketed it as luck would have it. One of the clerks, Tony shepherd was a college student studying to be a police officer from across the store. He saw Bill, hide the Bandelier and then walk out without paying for it shepherd pulled out his own gun and handcuffs and got the attention of his manager. He yelled after Bill asking if he planned to pay for that Dale sprinted shepherd and his boss chased him to the street and tackled him. Emily tried to pull the men off of her husband, but another mel's employees charged at her and then a random passer-by jumped into the fight, shepherd manage to get one handcuff on Bill, but couldn't grab his other wrist across the street. Patricia heard yelling and peek through the VW's curtains. Her captors were both held down by sporting goods store employees. The Harrises had left the keys in the van. She sat next to a pile of loaded guns after months in captivity. She finally had a choice, a chance. She could one, she could wait for the police to arrive in save her. She could drive the car home to Hillsborough. Later, Patricia said, quote, I immediately knew what I had to do. Patricia, Hearst open the van window grabbed a submachine gun and shot thirty bullets across the street. The store employees went running trying to escape the line of fire, Patricia exhausted the ammo in the semi sheen gun and picked up a car being. She kept shooting until only Tony shepherd, Bill, and Emily Harris remained in front of the store. Shepherd. Finally, let go of Bill and ran for cover. The Tricia stopped shooting. Bill grabbed Emily and the pair raced across the street and into the van. He revved the engine and drove off Patricia had just saved her captors from arrest. Bills reckless driving, help them evade Tony shepherd who heroin tried to chase them in his own car. But now they were lost in Los Angeles with an easily identifiable car, the Harrises carjacked one car, and then another. The third carjacking failed. But Bill threatened the driver with death. If he called the police, then they spotted a Ford van with a big four sale. Sign in the back and came up with a new plan. Emily Harris approached the address listed on the four sale sign and ask the owner, a teenage boy named Tom Matthews if she could test drive it, Tom said sure. So long as he could ride along once they were in the car. Emily asked if her two friends could come along for the test drive, Tom agreed Emily pulled over to where Bill and Patricia waited Bill flashed his machine gun from inside his jacket. He said. They were SLA and needed the car, Tom and his fellow hostage Patricia scrambled into the back seat. He was about five thirty PM and this was the fourth car. They'd come endeared in less than an hour. Man, my friends aren't going to believe this. Tom said he later recalled that he was calm and didn't feel threatened. In fact, Tom thought being taken hostage was cool. He'd seen the coverage of the Hibernia Bank robbery listened to the SLA tapes and was impressed to meet Tanya tomes. Only concern was getting back in time for his high school baseball playoffs. The next day Bill was an avid sports fan and they quickly struck up a conversation about baseball. What should have been terrifying. Armed carjacking became a fun drive around town. This wasn't Stockholm syndrome as there was no time for a relationship to develop. It may have been denial where Tom felt as though he was hanging out with friends instead of being held hostage at gunpoint work could have been. He just wanted to behave and not put up a fight. Tom himself later said it was a quote, big adventure. Thus began perhaps the most fun kidnapping in history. Bill Harris still had the mill sporting goods handcuffs stuck on one hand. So the group picked up a hacksaw to remove it Bill, almost cut himself trying to break the handcuff. So Tom offered to help remove it by Tom's account. He did so successfully garnering a hug from Bill a kiss from Patricia and a piece of the hint cuff. He kept his souvenir next order of business a drive in movie. This was the agreed upon meeting place. If an SLA operation went south, they put a white coffee Cup on top of the car as a signal and other SLA members would rendezvous there at midnight. The evening was oddly laid back at the theater Bill and Emily Harris bickered over who ordered a hamburger and who ordered a cheeseburger, which Tom found amusing, he recalled that all three of his kidnappers really got into the movies, rooting for the bad guys who just happened to be fighting cops. All of this begs the question. If Tom Matthews was having such a good time as a hostage was Patricia Hearst, having fun to when Bill and Emily went to buy more snacks, Tom got to talking with Patricia. He later testified in court that she was calm. And matter of fact, Patricia told him she willingly participated in the Hibernia Bank robbery and had a quote good feeling after she shot up Mel sporting goods to save her comrades. The four waited at the drive in until it closed well, after midnight. No, other SLA members showed up. They slept in the van and the next morning may seventeenth. They carjacked yet another car, their fifth and under twenty four hours with a new vehicle. They left Tom Matthews in his own car unharmed and free to go that afternoon. His baseball team when their game Emily, Bill and Patricia spent most of may seventeenth nineteen, seventy four looking for a cheap used car. They finally bought a Plymouth and drove it to Disneyland. Emily pick Disneyland for the cheap motels nearby where they could pose as tourists while waiting for the Mel sporting goods shootout news to blow over on the night of the seventeenth, the three settled into their motel and turned on the TV news to absolute horror when Bill and Emily Harris and. Patricia hers abandoned the SLA Volkswagen right after the Mel sporting goods shootout they forgot one very important thing. Their parking ticket, it listed the violation occurring on west eighty four th street the same street as the current SLA safehouse though Patricia and the Harrises escaped the scene of the Mel shootout. The police quickly found the van, the parking ticket and a gun registered to Emily Harris after three months authorities. Finally had a real lead on the SLA together. The police in the FBI scouted out west eighty. Fourth street, early in the morning of may seventeenth neighbors directed them to a house with suspicious activity by eight AM. The LAPD swat team was in front of eight thirty three west eighty four th street. The FBI swat team was behind it. They have the s. l. a. cornered. Or so. They thought when they finally broke in the place was abandoned. They missed the SLA by hours hungry for resolution, the FBI an LAPD scoured the area for other suspicious vans reported on west eighty fourth street. They found those vans on east fifty third street, just a few miles away. Also abandoned by four PM hundreds of armed officers descended on the neighborhood if necessary. They were prepared for a shootout. For the first time, the authorities had the upper hand over the s. l. a. the FBI and LAPD had more weapons more people and more power. Former FBI negotiator Thomas strengths stresses a position of strength is a crucial element of a successful hostage negotiation. The negotiator needs to have a threat they can act on. In some way to instill fear in the hostage takers. In order to back up, their requests strand says this position of strength is typically a swat team at the ready. That's certainly what it was here. By five thirty pm on may seventeenth. The authorities had received tips on the SLA's hideout and fourteen sixty six east fifty. Fourth street was surrounded and not just by swat teams. FBI agents and police officers, news crews descended on the scene eager to cover the rescue of Patty. Hearst, of course, Patricia. Hearst was thirty miles away in Anaheim, but the f. b. I didn't know that they had a dog familiar with Patricia sent at the ready no matter what happened in the showdown. They'd be able to identify her body. At five, forty, four PM sergeant cherry Brackley began giving warnings over a Bullhorn. Come out with your hands up. He gave eighteen warnings to surrender over the next nine minutes to people came out, but neither were members of the SLA. They reported six armed people in the house, including four white women. Any of them could have been Patricia Hearst that five fifty three PM. They launched tear-gas into the house bullets launched back at the s. l. a. wasn't going to surrender. They wanted to fight what they got was at the time. The largest police shootout in US history over fifty. Three hundred rounds of ammunition were fired by the swat team around three thousand were fired. By the SLA grown far went in and out of both sides of the house by six PM. The swat teams were almost out of ammo. In requested grenades. It had been less than ten minutes since they opened fire, their request was rejected. So they've embarked in more tear gas using Eighty-three canisters in total the tear gas riot, five fifty. Five was flammable combined with bullets. It started a house fire at six, forty, five Brackley yelled through a Bullhorn into the burning house. Come out the houses on fire, you will not be harmed. He was answered only with gunshots. The houses next door caught fire firefighters were at the ready, but unable to work with gunfire pouring out at them within fifteen minutes, the house collapsed on it self and on the six members of the SLA inside if they hadn't been hit by bullets or burned by fire, they were crushed by flaming debris around seven pm. The gunfire stopped like the Sault. Aside cult, they resembled the SLA had gone out in a self imposed blaze of glory. Patricia. Hearst watched the whole thing on TV from her Disneyland motel. She knew one thing for sure. Had she been in that house. The FBI would have killed her too. Up next, we'll follow Patricia life on the run. Now back to the story. In the days after the SLA shootout the bodies in the ashes were identified and the f. b. i. realized they had messed up once again. Sure. The streets were rid of six, criminal murderers, but in the search for Patricia Hearst, they were back to square one. She might be an LA. She might be in San Francisco. She might be dead Bill Emily and Patricia laid low after may seventeenth wearing disguises around Anaheim until they ran out of money on may twenty. Seventh, they returned to San Francisco without a plan. The Harrises were dedicated to their cause, but they weren't organizers. They were followers according to strands. While the follower tight may care deeply about a terrorist 'cause they won't take action without a leader and an opportunist. This could have been the end of the s. l. a. if it weren't for Kathy Soliah. A radical bomber Kathy Soliah was the main speaker at Berkeley rally commemorating the fallen SLA comrades on June third, nineteen, seventy four. She considered herself the leader of a radical group called the revolutionary army, which was really just Kathy per siblings. And her boyfriend Kathy had been best friends with Angela Atwood. Before at would went underground and was extremely sympathetic to the SLA. Most importantly, she fit the leader prototype bail Harris, read about the memorial rally in the newspaper and realized Kathy might help them. Emily showed up at Kathy's house and sure enough Somalia was more than happy to give her fifteen hundred dollars a standing offer of help and a tape recorder. The tape recorder was used to make a eulogy tape scripted by Bill and Emily. But delivered by Patricia. She commemorated each dead member of the SLA and announce to the world that Tanya Tico and you'll Launda were still alive. Kathy's brother. Steve helped deliver it to the KPFK radio station in Los Angeles. It aired on June seventh, another nail in the coffin for Patricia Hearst. Once again, all signs pointed to her as a terrorist. That same week, Kathy introduced Bill Emily and Patricia to her friend, Jack Scott, an activist and journalist who wanted to write a book on the SLA. Jack had reached out to people who knew SLA members hoping to get firsthand accounts because he was a thirty something activist in not a by the book FBI agent. He found himself in the same room as Patricia Hearst in less than three days. Finding hair was the easy part. Kathy had been happy to introduce them so long as Jack wore a blindfold to the apartment, but convincing Patricia Bill and Emily to agree to interviews proved harder. They wouldn't talk unless they had a guaranteed safe place to stay and the soli as wouldn't let Jack leave their apartment until he provided a suitable plan for harboring the SLA. Jack, did some quick thinking and determined he could hide them on a pen. Vania farm. He'd rented for the summer in exchange for exclusive interviews. He could arrange to have the trio driven separately across the country so long as they disarmed. But the SLA refused to disarm. So Jack spent the night on the floor. He was trapped. The latest s. l. a. hostage. Lucky for Jack Scott. The SLA didn't exactly have options. The only money they had was gifted by the soleus siblings. As was the apartment. They stayed in in the soleus believed. The best bet was for Patricia Emily and Bill to go into hiding for a few months. So they pressured them to go across the country to Pennsylvania. It was agreed that Patricia would drive with Jack's parents, John and loose Scott secretly. Everyone agreed. This was a good opportunity to let Patricia go. She'd been captive for four months now and was grading on the Harrises Bill. Harris new. The cops wouldn't care as much about catching him. If they found Patricia and told Jack Scott, he'd be fine. If she escaped John and loose Scott felt sympathy for Patricia parents. And when they picked her up offered to take her anywhere, she desired. She told them, quote, take me where you're supposed to or you'll be dead. Not just me and quote, Patricia was truly convinced that any attempt at escape would kill her. She was still under the effects of the SLA's brainwashing even though most of them were dead, of course, the trauma of watching the SLA shootout on TV didn't help. They call the next year. The lost year of Patty Hearst. She spent the summer of nineteen seventy four on the farm telling Jack Scott, her story during that time, she befriended radical feminist, Wendy Yoshimura, and grew even more distant from the Harrises by September. They were all fed up with each other. Jack Scott's book was going nowhere. And even he was starting to think it'd be easier if Patricia just surrendered something she still refused to do Emily called Kathy Soliah who arranged for them to regroup in Sacramento. Once in Sacramento, Patricia found herself part of a new group. The soleus siblings, Jim Kilgore, and their friend, Michael Borton joined the Harrises, Wendy Yoshimura and Patricia. They dubbed themselves the new world Liberation Front, their plan was to bust the other two remaining SLA. A members, Joe Romero and Russ little out of jail in Oakland to do that. They decided to build bombs. Back in nineteen seventy four. Radical bombings were extremely common in the US in the three years leading up to Patricia kidnapping. There were nearly two thousand bombings or attempted bombings annually every year more than twenty people died at the hands of bombs built by politically charged. Americans bombing may not have been outlandish, but it was expensive and they only knew one way to successfully make money, robbing banks in February nineteen, seventy five. The new world Liberation Front devised an elaborate plot to rob the guild savings and loan Bank in Sacramento. The one year anniversary of Patricia kidnapping and her twenty first birthday passed without fanfare on February twenty. Fifth, the group, rob thirty, seven hundred dollars from guild savings and loan using this money. They set off two homemade bombs in March nineteen. Seventy-five. Those bombs barely made the news and by April the new world Liberation Front was out of money. Again, the group planned another robbery for April twenty first nineteen seventy-five just over a year after the Hibernia job, they picked the Crocker national Bank in Carmichael, California be the first customers of the day, robbing an empty Bank. And that's where it went, horribly wrong. That Monday morning, Myrna Opsahl a mother of four had volunteered to deposit her church's Sunday collection. Myrna entered seconds before Michael Borden, thanking him for holding the door. He replied with everyone get down on the floor while Kathy Soliah grabbed the money Emily Harris, wielded a shotgun. Myrna hesitated still standing Emily Harris shatter the wound was fatal. The robbers then took the money and Patricia Hearst drove them away. She was now an accomplice to murder. The robbery yielded a take of about fifteen thousand dollars. They'd been hoping for a hundred thousand dollars combined with the blood on their hands. No one was in the mood to celebrate or make a communicate taking credit for the robbery. It didn't matter the crime style matched the SLA's and the news picked up on it immediately. Once the police found fingerprints on the dumped getaway car, the new world Liberation Front knew they had to get out of Sacramento, the move to San Francisco, where they spent the summer making and setting off more unsuccessful bombs in between bombing attempts. They worked as house painters that summer Patricia struck up a relationship with Steve Soliah and moved in with him no longer living with the Harrises. Patricia was fully finally free from her kidnappers by September. She'd completely broken contact with them. She could essentially do anything she wanted, except go back to her family. In her mind, the FBI were still out to kill her and identifying herself would be fatal. In reality, the FBI had essentially given up on capturing Patricia the summer of nineteen seventy-five. Patricia. Hearst sightings became a national joke. At this point, the FBI had investigated close to fifty thousand tips each leading nowhere. Their most promising tip came from Walter Scott, the capricious brother of Jack Scott who'd harbored Patricia Emily and Bill at his Pennsylvania farm rental by early summer nineteen, seventy five. The FBI had unsuccessfully subpoenaed, Jack, and his wife Mickey, Scott, Jack Scott had no interest in cooperating with the FBI and said as much in a televised press conference in April nineteen, seventy five, a press conference seen by Randy Hearst through early nineteen, seventy five. Randy head considered progressively outlandish rescue plans. He tried or seriously considered. Hiring an ex CIA agent to infiltrate the SLA offering the kidnappers and all expense paid trip to Cuba and asking for negotiation, help from the likes of Lakota activists, Russell means and psychedelic scientists Timothy Leary. Among other plans, when Randy heard Jack Scott had seen his daughter, he started making calls Randy, was able to get in touch with friends of the Scots. He swore he wouldn't share anything. Jack Scott told him with the FBI and printed a ringing endorsement of Jack and Mickey's nonviolent humanitarian behavior in the examiner. It worked soon after Randy. Hearst finally sat down to dinner with Jack Scott. A man who had seen his daughter alive. Randy came away with a sense of relief that his daughter was one healthy and to not pregnant. Contrary to some reported sightings, Randy closed the evening with an offer of. Anything I can do for you anytime to Jack Scott, implying that anything would be in exchange for helping Patricia. On July eleventh nineteen seventy-five. Jack, Scott again, joined the Hearst's for dinner. Jack, hadn't been able to sell his SLA book because he never finished his interviews, but he was eager to get something back for the money. He'd invested in harboring Patricia Hearst over dinner. The two men came to a secret agreement. If Katherine Hurst resigned from her position as a regent of the university of California, Jack Scott would get Patricia to surrender. You may recall from the last episode that the s. l. a. hated Catherine, Hearst role of a regent and the bourgeois capitalist seat of power. It stood for stepping down would be a powerful public bow to the SLA's 'cause it seemed like an airtight plan except they forgot to consult Catherine Hearst who had no intention of giving up her position when she heard Catherine, went straight. To the FBI an f. b. i. employee tipped off the l. a. times on July thirteenth nineteen, seventy five. The deal between Randy Hearst and Jack Scott was published in the paper angered Jack Scott denied the story, coerced Randy Hearst into denying it as well and broke off the deal. Randy was back to square one. The FBI was back to square one and a half going through Walter Scott offer Jack Scott, two hundred thousand dollars for a connection to Patty. Hearst, Jack told Walter to tell the FBI where to shove their money under no circumstances would Jack helped them. So in late August nineteen, seventy five, the FBI shifted the investigation, the narrowed in on Kathy Soliah something they should have done over a year ago after her public eulogy for the SLA members who died in the may nineteen seventy four shootout interviewing the soleus siblings. Parents reveal that Kathy, Steve and Josephine were working as house painters in the bay area. So in August nineteen seventy-five Monty hall the FBI agent in charge of the case, looked into small, local painting COs agents found the so. Holy is on the job, followed them to various apartments, including that of Bill and Emily Harris and set up round the clock surveillance on the morning of September eighteenth Bill and Emily Harris left their apartment for a jog. They ran right into the FBI. However, the victory of capturing the Harrises was overshadowed by the fact that the apartment they lived in was otherwise empty. No sign of Patricia Hearst. She was in her own apartment six miles away relaxing with Wendy Yoshimura that afternoon. The girl said at the kitchen table discussing a letter, Wendy was writing to her ex boyfriend, prisoner Willy Brandt as Wendy got up to get water. The back door broke down and two officers dove in freeze. FBI Patricia, his heart stopped. It had finally happened. The FBI was here. To kill her SF PD inspector, Tim Casey in FBI agent, Tom Padden wave their guns threatening, but not shooting Patricia dodged away toward the other room. Some accounts say she was reaching for her own weapon. Others say she was avoiding the line of fire patent aimed his gun at windy, but yelled at Patricia, he said, freeze, or I'll blow her head off, but Tricia forced herself to walk forward slowly. She put her hands up patent asked if she was Patty Hearst, Patricia said, yes, it was September eighteenth nineteen seventy four after almost two years of looking and an estimated two million dollars spent. The FBI had found Patricia Hearst. the ensuing trial was a media frenzy. Was she a terrorist or a victim or what she both top psychiatrists examined, Patricia, and given the same evidence came to different conclusions at the police station, Patricia identified herself as an urban guerrilla named Tanya. She wrote love letters to Steve Soliah, filled with radical language and had no interest in seeing her former fiance. Stephen, we'd Randy Hearst had a lawyer lined up before Patricia was even found, but within a few weeks, Patricia changed her preferred subjects of conversation from guns and politics, two dogs and skiing in the Alps. She still didn't want to see Stephen weed, but to be fair, the man had used her kidnapping to sell a book in jail. She learned to crochet and asked her sister and to bring her lip gloss. She was an air. Harris. Once again, not that the painful effects of kidnapping were over. She said herself. I think mostly that I've learned a lot about people. I've been around a lot of different kinds of people had the handle lots of unusual situations. And for someone my age, I've been through an awful lot been through an awful lot is an understatement. Dr. Margaret singer spent over twenty hours examining Patricia and deemed her quote not insane, but mentally and emotionally impaired along with Dr Lewis, west chairman of psychiatry at UCLA Dr singer was sure Patricia had been victim of quote, traumatic neurosis with dissociate of features in quote and coercive persuasion. The team brought in a bevy of experts. Most notably the foremost scientists in the field of thought reform. Dr Robert Lifton Dr Lifton examined, Patricia and determined. She. Was indeed coerced. He cited the speed with which the new ideas were quote pressed upon her and how those same ideas vanished quickly. Once she was free from then on Patricia maintained that she was coerced had never wanted to be part of the SLA and could not be held responsible for her actions. Of course, the US government sent in their own psychiatrists to analyze Patricia Dr Kozal and Dr fort described her as a quote rebel in search of a cause, they pinpointed house. She was dissatisfied with her former life and searching for an out. They also had the very tangible evidence that she appeared willing during the Hibernia Bank robbery, and the Mel sporting goods shootout. They noted that she didn't attempt to scape- when she had the chance even more tangibly, they found the old MC monkey which the FBI had been puzzling over sa-. Patricia mentioned it on the SLA eulogy tape in may nineteen seventy four. It was actually an Olmec monkey a Mexican pendant. Her rapist Willie Wolfe had given Patricia in their testimony Bill and Emily Harris cited it as proof that Patricia and Willie were in a relationship when Patricia was captured or Olmec monkey the gift from long-dead. Willie Wolfe was still in her purse. This sealed the verdicts for much of the American public. And most importantly, the jury Patricia was found guilty of both charges Bank robbery and use of a firearm in commission of a felony. All appeals were denied, and so on may fifteenth nineteen seventy eight. She began serving her seven year prison sentence Bill and Emily Harris. Each spent eight years in prison for Patricia kidnapping. Shortly after they were released, they divorced the SLA and it's. Revolutionary ideals have all faded into the past. Patricia served twenty one months in prison before the Hearst families PR campaign convinced president Carter to commute her sentence on January twenty ninth nineteen Seventy-nine. Of course it wasn't all the Hearst's the nineteen seventy eight Jonestown massacre in which over a thousand cult members were coercively persuaded to commit suicide revolutionized the public opinion on brainwashing in brought it into the modern lexicon. Advances in psychology showed Patricia as a victim years later President Clinton issued her a full pardon on his last day in office. So who's really guilty of Patricia crimes could Donald the freeze, be blamed for actions. Patricia took after his death. Did the hearse fame and fortune allow her to get away with robbery and bombings. It's not as black and white as people make it out to be James t Richardson. Professor of sociology and judicial studies at the university of Nevada. Reno noted that in a situation like Patricia's following a group, like the SLA is not necessarily brainwashing, nor is it a free choice. It's a survival strategy in extraordinary circumstances. Patricia. Hearst did the best she could and she made it out alive. She's done good with the life. She fought for particularly in her charity work to help children. Suffering from aids, Patricia went onto marry her bodyguard. Bernie Shaw raised two daughters played bit parts in movies and train show dogs. Ironically, Bernie Shaw was a former cop at clear sign. She held no loyalty to the SLA in recent interviews, Patricia focuses on how long ago it all was and how she just wants to move past it. All she survived horrors. Most of us can only imagine. Jn Patricia. Hearst, whatever you think of her is a true survivor. Thanks for listening to our episodes on the Hearst kidnapping. You can listen to hostage and all of park cast other podcasts on apple podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google play, cast box tune in or your favorite podcast directory. We'll be back next week. In the meantime, don't take your freedom for granted. Hostage was created by max Cutler is a production of Cutler media and is part of the park cast network. It is produced by Maxon, Ron Cutler sound design by Ron Shapiro with production assistance by Paul. Moller Nagy add Meyer in Carly Madden. Hostage is written by megi admire and stars Irma Blanco and Carter ROY.

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Rams, Emily in Paris, The Good Lord Bird and The Salisbury Poisonings

The Clappers

28:48 min | 9 months ago

Rams, Emily in Paris, The Good Lord Bird and The Salisbury Poisonings

"Welcome to the clashes. This andrew young and this is called quinn on this episode of the clap. Is we talk the good lord. Bird we talk the soulsby poisonings. We talk rams we talk. Emily harris something for everybody. Why undo it sorry exciting cinemas in melbourne in victoria in open again after seven months in which our closed with the exception of about a week. And that means you could go on c. Rams which is pretty good from. Sam neill michael keaton playing brothers who are sheep farmers in w i have not talked to each other for forty years. Exactly why is never quite understood or explained and a a disease sweeps through the valley and the health authorities order all of the sheep to be killed and Some neal's character colon Squirrels few away. Although i don't know if you call it squirreling when they shape that's probably the wrong word isn't it. He loves the sheep so much that he's going to secretly protect them. Which of course poses a potential risk to the rest of the valley which they might be infectious and who knows what will happen is sick have been shocked by the discovery of a highly fictious disease. Control plan has been putting price into of controlling. the outbreak. spent half our larceny. Everything to them the whole bloody valley. They'd take our smaller at finish the job. You got to follow the rules. Mike of two thousand and fifteen film From iceland or cold rams and that was a very very bleak piece of work. It was billed as a comedy. But i need. The iphone scandinavians could have called a comedy. It was pretty chilly This is more obviously in the in the sort of rural quickey all the comedy. Kind of spice. Although i think it falls into the trap sets some votes those films do it keeps a pretty nice balanced. I think between the darkness of the original and alighted kind of our quickey. Quick quickey community kinda vibe and i. I rather liked this film. I think it's worth checking out especially with checking out because it's it's actually showing you can go to a cinema. Yes i saw the original filled. I loved it right. And i probably wouldn't say it's blake silently. I can understand. Why some would you know. I'll just say and without inviting you to give it a while. Just say the final say has a reminds one of douglas. Stewart's play fire on the snow about sir. Robert falcon scott's doomed expedition to the antarctic. The titular seen in that reminded me. But it's i love this film. I thought it was marvelous. In every every respected is mean. Nasty frankie unkind which some people might say qualify for the term bleach rather than this is so the brother brother this bad brother righteous brother verses cool brother kind verses painless as it's it's it's really interesting in an australian context because we have. We are so fortunate here to have a radic. Aided ought to have held by certain diseases that devastate livestock in europe and the united states. And while i think at times you side with Keady the brother who want to kill his shape in the original film at the same time. You implied by michael keaton. You be aware of what dangerous had devastated when something like foot and mouth bovine spongiform syphilis. All those different things that can really devastated whole zone. Animals it's really interesting. Can moral conundrum but this this film unlike by suspect the strain film which i won't be saying this is very very funny. I can't imagine this film being. This film was made by takeaway. Td in new zealand with sam neill and some other new zealander are would be lining up for sure. I just can't see with michael. Keaton and miranda richardson it really carrying the tragedy slash humid in the same way. I'm just making that prediction. Well i think we could see it. Definitely changes the timing of it. It's it's not an exact replica. By any means the miranda character she plays vet in this bail even exists in the in the atlantic film. She's a i think. Well i suppose to introduce a kind of a slightly different dynamic forum for colon That samuels saving the sheep guy. Yup yup germy sims. Who has directed this. I think really just wanted to render. It's because as he said to me she's the he thinks he's the most underrated actor in the world and he would put her in anything. And so i think he. He called her up from the public and she said yes great. He called up from the pub and she said yes. I am the most underrated. No she said yes. I'll do it if you want. If you want only to see the the icelandic version but with a streamlined landscape. You'd be disappointed. Don't want to completely remake something. He exactly what. I don't think i think that's a time it's not like gospel san remaking it is not the same thing while you're talking about films just really quickly. Is it a film right. It's not your favourite show though. Feel free to me your full time but one that you find without realizing to actually think about it. You've seen an inordinate like a lot of times more than makes any sense to anybody. Think now it would be would be my sort of My gut feeling maybe alien. Okay which is probably my favorite film. And that's one that i've sort of sought out repeatedly but favorite you. Yeah yeah yeah and you know. It's a film that i'll rewatch every so often to see they've still holds up you know and i think it does. I mean obviously the special effects look a little bit dated invoices. But i think it's remarkable But now i see so many that it kind of feels like a luxury. I can't really afford to just watch film of already seen because there's always something else that i should be watching instead. Yes and it's a bit like My wife writes about restaurants and the idea of going back to a place just because it was great. Is something which you can't really do. You know what i mean i do. I miss i. i mean. I'm not expecting the world's smallest violin deke. In at this point in time those a lot of upside in this but but the downside is that a revisiting a favorite is actually a luxury that you just don really have time for. So why why do you ask a couple of films of famous accidentally watching. And i realize man who i've seen this film sign many times not to the point where i'm i all the dialogue but some of it and it's the strange thing in any kind of top ten list of films. These films would never appear mine or anybody's top ten list of films. There are some that hmo which i see see some different inflection will be a different different perspective on on it than than i originally saw and it's one give you one to john. Frankenheimer ronin right once. I've seen that like. I taught him savak. And it's really good. We discussed a while. Owed the car rig in. I was wondering so much about this. Year is a bridge too far goldman wrote a bat mag market garden a completely failed and dangerous foolish plan by montgomery to shorten the war somewhat in were in the world to wall asking that so many times and why i mean i didn't because there's some really good moments in an interesting historical films and battles but it's just the funniest thing how like that creep up on this one i can think of that i've seen quite a few times but again it's sort of deliberate and that's wonderful life theft. Never seen that really. I think i'd never seen it. Never seen it never seen it and they got to a point where i thought i don't want to save his corning embarrassing which which it is. But it's also great under the soulsby poisonings. Now the re poisonings is a mini. Would you call it. What do you call them. Mini series mini series. It's got one episode is another term. They've been using but as apposite is that appears to be to at times would suggest watching the soderbergh film. I if you tend to what's that. Sorta contagion i came into that. Come out i think it is. It is set in a wilder two where a series of of strange events occur very similar to. What's been happening. Now where the whole world ends up in a panic mode with people dying in in the millions from a disease it's initially spread from bats to peak to men. We're talking contagion here right. Which two thousand. Eleven of checked right now get the souls poisoning. Okay okay. so it's it's a similar situation where there has been a terrible event occur. No one really knows what it is but then now that people in apparently random why starting to safa these horrible symptoms and no one knows how to fix them some of them. Some of them die. Of course we know we know we now know what that was which which was these A soviet double agent and his daughter were poisoned by soviet agents over not called soviet anymore. They called russians by russian agents and a That that particular poison found its way into the various parts of the small city of souls brain. I can't remember the name of the poison but it was one of those poisons that is is just the the worst kind of thing i think it was. It was a sprite that sprite onto the the two people up by In a crowd by possible and then that sprague it strenuous penins. Someone finds the spray from the and sprays it on themselves leaking. It's perfume Man it's a it's a really terrifying a look at how a terrible toxic poison deliberately might to to kill people can be spread in an in an unwitting careless way drummer. It's it's not fiction but it's l. The people the actors in a play humans abbott the scripts. The script has been made from interviews and from dossiers and documents that have been made public subsequent to what happened and it is even though you know what happens in the end. maybe but many people would. it's thrilling and it's frightening and especially in the way that you have a one person making all these suggestions about how to reduce the spread and how they should lock down what they should do and they constantly being ignored and it gets worse and worse. And it's it's a great show. It's a british. Like i say three episodes and Really something to enjoy. While in this period of covid nineteen restrictions soulsby poisonings. He's on is on demand. I'll check it out my day as jan king king team trinity stash. Whatever he believed he believed didn't matter if it was true or not the old man was nutty. Squirrels heard like a lot of programs. Good lord starts with one of those this triggered. It's not really true. That's been coming. I do indeed kind of. I guess it's annoying. Necessarily i mean it's it's revisionist history. That sort of. I guess posits the idea sort of implicitly that all history is to a degree you fabulous. Yeah the that. There's always going to be subjective. Interpretations is always going to be a little bit of a licensed. i can with the vince. I well i kind of think is in that. But it's also i guess it just allows for licensed to be playful as well. I've only seen the first episode of good lord. Bird and elected did feel slightly on size. I think that's a good way of putting it. I think the suggestion. So it's about abolitionist. John brown who was executed. And i think the the show starts with An arriva a boy describing that. And i didn't know much about him i wanna. Sra card from great to is is the extent of my knowledge. john brown. If you don't know what an sra cut is look them up. We can occasionally get the whole sits or complete sits on ebay for quite a lot of money depending on which ear there from. I don't think i have thought of sri card. Since i was in three. Do you think about them. Probably more than any money. I loved it. It's very cards. If people want to know that. I graduated comp english comprehension but also including arts biology's sciences all kinds of things. You read the card on the front and you turn the cadaver and your answer writing down questions about the coddling. The teacher will give you heaven. Many you got right marks. They start very easy. That text get stints the cowboys the same size. It's about the size of attained inch record cava. Now probably small that about. I'm a loved him. And i can remember at the end of grade six when that was going to be at first alright cards my great sixty saying so anybody wants to finish up the rest are is getting all the way through the like down the front who white to get to the into the is one of the make. Sure i complete it. My sra program including one. On john brown. That was great too. So i'd move beyond nathan hale is a revolutionary figure. Also learn from i to be a killjoy. But can i suggest we get business out fisher so good. Little bit about john brown abolitionist. That the very start of the program that he's some kind of fugitive from i'm not sure which government it. I'm not sure if it seemed like the civil war has yet to be declared so to speak and so there is still just one government in the united states. Slavery is still something that is is not illegal and open a central to the economies of the southern part of the united states. He is a very religious righteous man. Who makes great big speeches and seems completely unhinged. An office rocker. He somehow adopts ago. Who is not a girl. But he thinks is called ago henrietta. But he's really a boy called henry and he gives him a dress to wear and henry just goes along with it. He's a house not a son of a slave. I don't think he's vowed shot at the very start. I think by accident accident now. Okay sort of well. I suppose accidentally sort of collateral damage. But it it involves white racists and you'll you'll neglecting to mention that henry slash henrietta is in fact. A black kid was about to ask. Sorry sorry jumping okay. It's absolutely significant. That a- in rita is black. He'd they travel on the run. They get into skirmishes that john brown has Sons accompany him on this grand much. Not quite sure where. And i'm not quite sure what they expect to. But they armed and the angry and they're looking a fights peak with representatives of the forces of evil who condone slavery as a salve in the first episode. But i would say that the mission. John brown's mission should also decide that he's played. I think quite brilliantly by heath and hulk them with his just sense of He's somewhere between inspired and just a lunatic I think their mission quite quite clear mission is to provoke conflict between those forces we represent slavery represent liberation. I'm sure i just said this. Did you just took too got less than science. Research associates cards of those guys. It stopped talking about him. Don't get me so how many episodes of you watch. Sandra are three or four with think Yeah it's great not unlike the garibaldi. He's asking for men willing to lay down their lives. Few nothing but cold hunger forced marches and suffering. I sign exactly so it's a little bit like my experience of hiking in new zealand. Quite you experience with the plight of african american slaves in the saying it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't raining andrew. I want to skip gear like massively here and ask you. If you've watched me in paris. I think the answer is going to be no. I have not watch the entire thing with my wife and finding finding show to watch with my wife is like very hard and finding a show that she will watch and stay awake. Four past about the eleven minute mark is like almost impossible. She wants this whole thing so it was like. Oh my god does that. Say about your. It says that. She's a delightful woman. Hello bonjour. I'm emily cooper from the gilbert group in chicago. I'm sorry i don't understand. I'm going to be working in this office. Don't severe whole. I would say that. Emily in paris was some of the most ridiculously paulie put together. Tv in some respects that. I've watched in a long time. Compared to all the incredibly beautifully crafted and wrought drama. That's available to watch. Is it drama. Romcom bicycles series. And it's from darren style. The guy who gave us most recently younger. But going way back beverly hills nine o. Two on melrose place west. I mean he's he's been prolific and very important figure in contemporary american Tv this i would say it is the most frippery kind of end of his work and it just like it's terrible. It was really enjoyable. Was like eating a bowl of pringles or something. 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Symbionese Liberation Army Pt. 2 - Patricia Hearst

Female Criminals

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Symbionese Liberation Army Pt. 2 - Patricia Hearst

"Have you had a chance to check out my new show not guilty yet? If you haven't you should give it a listen, it examines controversial criminal cases and tries to determine why solid evidence doesn't always lead to a conviction. It's the perfect podcast. If you like stories with twists and turns search for and subscribe to not guilty on Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts, and please don't forget to rate and review. Due to the graphic nature of this woman's crimes. Listener discretion is advised. This episode includes discussions of kidnapping sexual assaults and murder that some may find offensive we advise extreme caution for children under thirteen. On april. Fifteenth nineteen seventy four several customers stood in line at a Hibernia Bank branch in San Francisco waiting for their turn with the teller. Suddenly a small group of people burst into the lobby yelling and waving guns shooting into the air. They informed the customers that they were members of the symbionese Liberation Army and on a mission to dismantle the capitalist system of oppression during the robbery the Bank customers noticed a thin. Young woman standing near the door of the Bank watching over the frantic crowd. She was holding a gun that looked far too large for her slight frame. The woman raised her weapon and tried to shoot up into the air. But her gun jammed. She let it fall to her side and shouted into the chaos quote. This is Tania Patricia Hearst first person puts his head up. I'll blow his head off. Off one customer thought, they recognized her voice and dared to peek up at her face. It was Patricia Hearst. But what was she doing here? And why was she robbing a Bank? Picture a murderer a gangster a thief. Did you picture a woman? We didn't think. So too science associates men with dangerous crimes. But what happens when the perpetrator is female every Wednesday. We examine the psychology motivations and atrocities of female criminals. Hi, I'm Sammy ni-, and I'm Vanessa Richardson. And you're listening to female criminals apart cast original today. We're continuing our discussion on Patricia Hearst who was kidnapped by the SLA in nineteen seventy four. Eventually she started committing crimes alongside her captors at par cast. We're grateful for you our listeners you allow us to do what we love let us know how we're doing reach out on Facebook and Instagram at par cast and Twitter at par cast network. And if you enjoy today's episode the best way to help us as to leave a five star review wherever you're listening. It really does help. We also now have merchandise head to park cast dot com slash merch. For more information. Last week, we covered why nineteen year old Patricia Hearst was targeted by the SLA and detailed her kidnapping on February fourth nineteen seventy four for the first two months of her captivity. Patricia was locked in a closet blindfolded and only taken out to use the bathroom and occasionally shower, the SLA educated her on the tenants of their revolution, teaching her how and why the system was corrupt and had to be dismantled and Patricia learned that the more sympathetic. She was to the SLA, and they're radical ideas, the more freedoms and rewards she received through the course of her imprisonment. She gained sympathy for and from her captors developing Stockholm syndrome, eventually she joined her kidnappers cause and pledged her life to the SLA assuming the name Tonya this week will cover Patricia time as a self-described urban. Gorilla and the events that led to her arrest will also follow her highly publicized trial in which the world question. The validity of her claim that the SLA had brainwashed. Her. Throughout Patricia initial captivity in the spring of nineteen seventy four Donald defrays, the leader of the SLA regularly sent tape-recorded messages to local radio stations. He called them communiques using them to detail. The goals of the SLA and deliver his ransom demands. On a few tapes to freeze force Patricia to speak she alleged that he told her what to say, but made her say it in her own words in one communique. She addressed her parents directly criticizing their response to her kidnapping to freeze recorded a new tape after Patricia pledged herself to the SLA to announce her conversion to the world. It was played on local radio stations on April. Third nineteen seventy four in the message Patricia stated that she was free to leave the SLA but had chosen to stay and help them in their fight against oppression. She insulted her parents and her fiance Stephen weed. She actually broke up with him in the recording referring to him as her ex fiance in her auto biography, Patty, Hearst, her own story, Patricia Roach. She didn't believe any of what she said. She did whatever she was told. So she would survive before we get into Patricia psychology, just a quick. Disclaimer, the nessa is not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist, but she's done a lot of research for the show. Thank sammy. According to psychiatrist Tina, Jay Walsh victims can succumb to a state of helplessness and powerlessness shortly after being kidnapped according to wall ch- instead of being tortured. You receive kindness, you're given a drop of water. You're not beaten, you begin to develop feelings of gratitude over time it wears on even the strongest person so with that gratitude awakened, and a strong will to live Patricia said goodbye to her old life and fully embraced the SLA. She started weapons and fitness trainer. With the other members and stood guard with them, she even learned to make pipebombs now that she was one of them to freeze issued her machine gun of her own. But despite this newfound freedom, Patricia never considered escaping in her autobiography, she noted that all of the SLA members slept with guns. There was never a chance for her to leave. Shortly after welcoming Tanya into the fold the SLA began to plan their next big mission, robbing a Bank, they decided on this crime for two reasons first they wanted to further their mission of fighting capitalism through terrorist actions. They plan the robbery for April fifteenth nineteen seventy four tax day. They wanted to show the world that they could destroy rich capitalist institutions, the second and more practical reason, they needed money they had to pay rent on their safehouse and feed the nine adults living there defrays laid out the logistics of their plan. Informing Patricia that she would be an active participant. She and five other SLA. Members would storm the Bank take the cash and escape in a getaway car during the robbery Patricia was to stand by the door and make sure all of the customer saw her defrays wanted her to shoot. Into the air and announce herself as Tanya, she seemed to be more of a propaganda symbol than anything else in selecting which Bank to target the SLA specifically scouted for a Bank with security cameras. They wanted images for the media to use that proved Patricia had joined them in nineteen seventy four security cameras were still a pretty new technology. So there weren't many banks to choose from the eventually selected a Hibernia Bank in San Francisco in her autobiography Patricia said that defrays came to her in private before the robbery he told her, quote, if you mess up if you do anything different from what you're supposed to your dead. He still wasn't completely certain that she had converted to their. 'cause this was Patricia chance to show him that she had the next morning. The SA executed their carefully laid plans at nine forty AM on April fifteenth, Patricia and the other SLA. Members stormed the Hibernia Bank. The robbery lasted just a few minutes and the SLA walked away with over ten thousand dollars. But more importantly, the world would soon see that Patricia was willingly involved in the SLA even faced with the video evidence. Randy and Catherine Hearst continued to support their daughter. Jeffrey Toobin noted in his book American heiress that Randy told the media, quote, no matter what she says. And does as long as she is under the control of the SLA. We know she is not acting of her own free will whatever legal problems are in her future. We will be there for her when the F B I examined photographs from the robbery they noticed other SLA members kept their guns trained on Patricia. They reported that she may have been acting under duress and coercion the FBI issued warrants for three women they identified as SLA members, Nancy Ling Perry. Ca. Melissa hall and Patricia MS moon Solta sick, charging them with Bank robbery. They also issued a warrant for Patricia charging her with being a material witness to a Bank robbery and kidnapping James L Browning United States attorney for the northern district of California said the Patricia was not charged with robbery because there's reason to believe that she may not have been acting under her own will. But over the next few weeks. The matter grew complicated on April twenty fourth nineteen seventy four the SLA set the record straight sending a new tape recorded message to a local radio station on the tape Patricia directly incriminated herself. She claimed responsibility for the robbery and insisted she wasn't brainwashed. She was a loyal member of the SLA happy to fight for their cause. She condemned the F B I for charging her comrades not herself, though, it may seem strange for her to defend her kidnappers in this way. According to psychiatrist Joseph m Carver the combination of Stockholm syndrome and cognitive dissonance produces a victim who firmly believes the relationship is not only acceptable but also desperately needed for their survival. The victim feels they would mentally collapse. If the relationship ended when she reflected on this recording in her autobiography Patricia once again stated she was only parroting what the SLA wanted her too. But in nineteen seventy four Patricia seemed to be cemented to the SLA. No matter what happened after the Hibernia robbery and the subsequent communiques the F B I reclassified their search for. Patricia. She was no longer a captive, but a fugitive. We'll talk more about Patricia life in a terrorist cell after this. 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However, once the adrenaline and excitement were off Patricia began to see the reality of life as an urban guerrilla the nine adult members of the SLA were all crammed into a small one bedroom apartment because they were wanted fugitives. No, one could leave the house. Instead they continued to run drills and make plans for their next revolutionary strike. During this time Patricia reportedly had a close relationship with fellow SLA, member Willie Wolfe. Other members of the group described them as a couple Patricia has repeatedly denied the existence of this relationship saying wolf sexually abused her. However in the photographs from the Hibernia Bank robbery Patricia was wearing an Olmec monkey pendant that belonged to wolf this could indicate that they did have a relationship as other SLA members claimed the SLA had a free love philosophy everyone had sex with each other. But as Jeffrey Toobin noted in an interview it was impossible for Patricia to give consent because she was a hostage. He said, quote, any woman who had sex having been kidnapped and kept in a closet is being raped, regardless of the other circumstances. There is no possible way to say that Patty Hearst consented to sex in the closet if any relationship with wolf existed. It was likely based in Stockholm syndrome, coercion and sexual abuse. According to trauma, psychologist, Elizabeth Carl whenever an abuser shows acts of kindness toward you it shows, you some hope that you will survive that combined with the terror of what could happen sets the stage for wanting to please the abductor and eventually feeling positive toward the abuser. As a way of coping, perhaps this explains why Patricia would wear wolves pendant in one of the tape. Communiques she referred to him as the sweetest kindest man she'd ever known, but in the context of her capture wolf could have garnered that kind of endearment simply by treating her with basic human kindness as opposed to treating her like a political prisoner. Shortly after the Hibernia robbery to freeze became worried about the police discovering their location, they needed to find a new safe house in San Francisco before they left they trashed the one bedroom apartment. They graffitied the walls with totting messages for the FBI. They wrote that there were clues in the bathroom, but they should find them at their own risk. They dumped documents relating to the planning of the robbery and the keys to the getaway. Cars in the bathtub dousing them. Inhere die cooking spices cyanide crystals and their own urine police discovered the disgusting apartment on may second nineteen seventy four, but the SLA had already moved the F B I had no further clues as to where they went by that time the SLA were living in one side of a duplex. In a mostly black neighborhood of San Francisco. They thought it would look suspicious to neighbors having eight white people living in the area. So once again, they stayed cooped up inside to freeze had friends on the outside. Bring them, food and necessities. They continued their drills exercising in the house. They needed to be in a condition to fight when the revolution began. To freeze lead them in calisthenics target practice and more telling them that the other SLA splinter cells around the country were also preparing to fight in reality. The SLA consisted only of the nine adults in the duplex. In her autobiography Patricia admitted that at this time, she believed to freezes lies that the SLA was a nationwide movement comprised of many revolutionary soldiers. So she went along with everything she was told to do exercise stand guard make bombs repeat Patricia reported that she was depressed and miserable during this time. And she wasn't the only SLA member who felt this way feeling the cramped quarters. Once again paranoid about police discovery to freeze decided day should move. Again, this time he suggested they travel to Los Angeles to freeze had grown up in southern California and new people there who could help them. Defrays divided the nine members into three groups of three to make the long drive to Los Angeles. Patricia was paired with Bill and Emily Harris. They were the only married couple in the SLA and reportedly bickered constantly still the drive was made more bearable by the potential of their new lives in L A in San Francisco. The police were searching for them everywhere. This was a fresh start. However when the group saw the house, they would be moving into they all had second thoughts. It was a small rundown house with no electricity and one bedroom. There was no hot water and no kitchen. This house was also located in a predominantly black neighborhood. So once again, they rarely ventured outside fearing, it would draw too much attention on may sixteenth nineteen seventy four after a few weeks in L A Bill and Emily Harris wanted to go out and buy some food and new clothes for the group Patricia JR. Jumped at the chance to go with them and breathe fresh air. But the Harris's didn't see Patricia as a strong soldier and dismissed her Patricia insisted she was an equal member of the group and deserve to go. The decision fell to freeze, and he ultimately let her join their trip that day Patricia and the Harrises went to several stores before stopping at Mel sporting goods, Patricia state in the van as a look out. They were still fugitives from the F B I after all and maintained constant vigilance that day in the parking lot. Patricia sat in the van with the keys in the ignition and full arsenal of guns. But she didn't drive away from her captors this was possibly her best chance to escape, but she wrote in her autobiography that she was still too afraid to leave remember that she believed the SLA was a worldwide network, even if she fled today where would she go that they wouldn't find her nearly four months of captivity had? Transformed her mental state and Patricia didn't need anyone pointing a gun at her to stay put. She was kept captive in that van by her own brain while in the store. Bill decided to steal shotgun. Shell bandelier. A cashier saw the theft and confronted him forcing him out of the store, the situation escalated and Bill started fighting the cashier and his boss four other men rushed into join the fray, they tackled Bill who reached for his gun in the van Patricia heard the chaos and jumped into action she grabbed a submachine gun from the back seat and started shooting she fired off thirty rounds of ammunition. Aiming above the fight shattering the store window when her gun ran out of ammo. She grabbed another from the van and shop more rounds. Eventually the men fled to call the police Bill and Emily ran to the van, and they sped away. Jeffrey Toobin has. Pointed to this moment as a pivotal turning point in Patricia capture it signalled her complete transformation. He did not speculate on the cause simply that she was now clearly one of them acting of her own volition. He said, quote, here's a woman alone van with the key in the ignition and instead of driving away. She fires a machine gun to free her comrades as Patricia and the Harrises fled the scene. They word the make and model of their van would be reported to police by the store manager. They abandoned the van and stole a car trying to get back to the safe house. But after a few short blocks, the stolen card died they had to find another. They stole a second car, but then became paranoid. What if the owner of this car reported it to the police has stolen they'd be captured? It was no safer than their van. They drove into a neighborhood and saw van for sale outside a house. Emily went to the door and told the eighteen year old boy who answered that she was interested in buying the van but wanted to test drive at first when the boy came outside Bill pulled a gun on him and forced him to get in the back seat. Patricia was already inside ducked down low. The kid was a high school senior named Tom Matthews. When Bill told him that the woman he was sitting next to was Patricia Hearst. He felt like he was seeing a celebrity Patricia Bragg to Matthews about her work with the SLA. She told him that she believed in the SLA's mission and wanted to help the people she told him she wasn't an any danger at all. And she certainly wasn't brainwashed. In case they had a police tail Bill, Emily and Patricia didn't want to go back to the safe house. So instead, they went to a local drive in movie theater. The SLA had previously arranged this. As a backup meeting place if they became compromised, Patricia Matthews and the Harrises watched two full movies together. But defrays the others never showed up to escape possible recognition. They carjacked another car and let Matthews go. They asked him not to call the police p seemed to be sympathetic to their cause. And was impressed by them brother than afraid. He kept his word, but they were still worried Matthews might report their newest license plate. So they went out in search of another car, Emily and Patricia posed as hitchhikers breaking off from Bill. They knew to women on their own would have better luck getting someone to stop when a man pulled over for them. Emily showed him her gun and hijacked the car. They went back and picked up Bill where they'd left him. It was now getting dark again, and they hadn't heard from the other SLA members over twenty four hours. They didn't want to go back to the safe house. If the police were following them, but they didn't have another backup plan after the movie theater. Emily decided they should drive to Anaheim and stay in a hotel outside of Disneyland. She thought they could blend in among the tourists as it turned out while they headed for safety. The police were on their way to the SLA safe house in Los Angeles. The police had discovered the original SLA van after the shootout at mill sporting goods Patricia didn't realize that when they abandoned the vehicle the trio had left an unpaid parking ticket on the passenger seat the ticket listed the address where it had been issued. It was the address for their safehouse. So while Patricia and the SLA were robbing banks building bombs shooting at people and stealing cars the crime that truly got the. On their case was a traffic violation. But when police arrived on may seventeenth nineteen seventy four the house was empty the other SLA members had fled to a nearby boarding house. After hearing about the shootout on the radio. However, just as defrays feared all of those white faces stuck out to the neighbors as did the several guns. They carried it didn't take long for the police to find them soon. A swat team arrived and surrounded the boarding house. The police shouted for the SLA to come outside, but they refused both sides geared up for a standoff when the TV news outlets caught wind of the story. They rushed over to set up cameras, everyone assumed that Patricia Hearst was inside the boarding house and wanted to be the first to report on her arrest, but Patricia was in Anaheim with the Harrises. The trio watched the events unfold on TV anxious and nervous for their friends. Eventually, the police threw tear gas. Into the house trying to force the SLA out, but they still didn't budge. Instead, they started shooting out the windows at the police the police fired back, and it devolved into a massive shootout in her autobiography Patricia said that as she watched the live broadcast, quote, the emotional shock was devastating shots rang out and my entire body reverberated as though struck as the firefight continued the police escalated their tactics, they once again launch canisters of tear gas into the house, but this time they used federal five fifty five riot tear-gas, which was much more potent and flammable sparks from the SLA's firing bullets ignited the gas starting a fire in their preparations for war. The SLA had moved several cans of gasoline into the house the fuel fed the flames and soon the house. Was engulfed still the SLA refused to come out eventually the roof collapsed trapping, everyone inside no one survived Patricia watched in horror as most of the SLA died on live television. She no longer saw them as her kidnappers. She thought they were her comrades. The only people in the world who cared if she lived or died Patricia sat silently in the hotel room with Bill and Emily Harris, grieving the SLA had gone from nine to three members in one day. This was Patricia chance to escape without retribution. But instead she declared to Bill and Emily Harris that has the last living members of the SLA. It was up to them to take revenge together. They were going to take down the police coming up will explore Patricia life after death. You have the suspect's fingerprints at the crime scene. You have witnesses testifying that they saw the suspect commit the crime. The suspect has a motive it's an open and shut case. Or is it each week my new show not guilty examines? Controversial criminal cases and tries to determine why solid evidence doesn't always lead to a conviction. 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Now back to the story in may of nineteen seventy four the majority of the symbionese Liberation Army died in a standoff with the police their captive twenty year old Patricia Hearst was thankfully away from the group at the time of the confrontation Patricia had watched her captors horrific deaths on live television, while holed up in a hotel room in Anaheim, California with the only other surviving members of the SLA Bill and Emily Harris. She told them that they should take revenge on the LAPD for what they've done all throughout her captivity to freeze told Patricia that the police wanted to kill her. Now, she had seen that brutality with her very own is she didn't trust any law enforcement agencies. Patrician noted in her autobiography that after watching the other SLA members be brutally killed by police. She felt the F B I would shoot her. Her on if she attempted to turn herself in after the shootout Patricia and the Harris's new the police would be looking for them once they realize their bodies weren't among the remains of the others. They drove south to Costa, Mesa, California and stayed in a motel for ten days there. They heard of a memorial service for the dead SLA members held at Berkeley led by a woman named Kathy Soliah. Kathy's former best friend was Angela Atwood an SLA member who had perished in Los Angeles, Kathy publicly spoke out in support of the SLA's goals seeking an ally. Patricia Bill and Emily returned to San Francisco and tracked down Kathy Soliah, Kathy agreed to help them and set them up in an apartment, but even with this new goal Patricia was struggling during this time. She drank heavily. It's not unlikely that Patricia was suffering from post traumatic stress disorder after watching the SLA shootout on TV psychiatrist Tenzin on. Sorry reports that many sufferers of PTSD abuse alcohol as a coping mechanism the Harris's often left Patricia at the apartment by herself. But she never once tried to escape in her auto biography. She said, quote, it simply never occurred to me my fear of the police outweighed my hatred for the SLA at the same time that Patricia Bill and Emily were trying to form a new organization with Kathy and her friends. Someone tracked them down a journalist named Jack Scott Scott wanted to write a book about the SLA. He invited them to a farm that he and his wife had rented in Pennsylvania out of San Francisco. They could find a respite from their fugitive existence. The farm was secluded enough that they wouldn't have to worry about. Lease finding them in exchange Patricia Bill and Emily would provide exclusive interviews to Scott. But Jack Scott had one rule at the farm. No guns at first Patricia in the Harris's were resistant to comply Bill was especially angry about it. He insisted that a soldier needed to be armed at all times. But eventually Patricia Ann Emily talked him into it. They were safe there. The police had no reason to suspect they were living on a farm in Pennsylvania. According to American heiress while in Pennsylvania, Patricia brooded over the names of people. She wanted to kill. She was still hell bent on getting payback for the murder of her SLA, friends, but outside of the revenge plot Patricia and the Harris's seemed happy at the farm they continued their daily drills. So they would be ready when the revolution came somehow, though, Bill got a BB gun and began target practicing as a result of. Taking the one rule Jack kicked all three of them out and sent them to live in a house in the Catskills. But while they were taking full advantage of Jack's hospitality, the weren't offering him what he wanted in return eventually Jack realized he wouldn't beginning any material for his book. So he decided to send them back to California. In the fall of nineteen seventy four Patricia Bill and Emily were smuggled to Sacramento to reconnect with Kathy Soliah and the new SLA they renamed themselves the new world Liberation Front or N W L F among the NWF. Members was Steve Soliah. Kathy's brother, Steve and Patricia became a couple American heiress noted that Patricia wrote about him quote. He did not try to dominate teach or make demands for me that alone one. My gratitude Steve was a house painter and sometimes Patricia out on his jobs. She was glad to get out of the house, and no one ever recognized her being outside completing task and hanging out with a guy was almost a return to normalcy. It was a happy time for Patricia. She and Steve began going on dates like normal couple, but normal couple they were not they. Had plans to build bombs which required expensive materials as nineteen seventy four turned to nineteen seventy five the N W L F realized they needed money. They were tired of making ends meet by stealing wallets and eating cheap. Horsemeat? They decided to rob another Bank Patricia visited several banks around Sacramento scouting for the right target. She took notes on the blueprints of the buildings and the way the branch operated. On February twenty fifth nineteen seventy five a little more than a year after Patricia was kidnapped to end w l f members went into the guilt savings and loan association in Sacramento and robbed it Patricia. And Emily took a bus to the Bank picked up the bags of cash. The other members handed them hopped back on the bus and went home without even being noticed. But the hall wasn't as big as they'd hoped less than four thousand dollars. It didn't even last two months soon. They planned another robbery. On April twenty first nineteen seventy five four n w l f members entered the Crocker national Bank in Carmichael, California. The plan was the same as it had been for the other robberies get in get the money and get out leave. No clues leave no casualties. Patricia role was to drive a getaway car, but during the Bank robbery, Emily Harris gun fired and she accidentally killed a woman Myrna Opsahl. A middle aged mother of four the end w l f members fled to Patricia waiting van. Frantic Patricia didn't know what had happened inside as she drove them away. They told her that Emily had killed a woman and Patricia was now an accomplice to murder the murder haunted the group, and they were never quite the same. They had managed to walk away with fifteen thousand dollars, but it was covered in an innocent woman's blood. A few months after the robbery the N W L F decided to return to San Francisco, Steve and Patricia moved into their own apartment together. They're Patricia was now no longer living with any of her original SLA captors, but her fear of the F B I kept her from contacting her family or trying to return home. She continued her life of crime. In August of nineteen seventy five the N W L f focused their full energies on making pipebombs Patricia and the SLA had practiced making bombs since her kidnapping, but she had never actually set one off. Now, she wanted to on August, seventh Patricia and a comrade planted a bomb underneath a police car in San Francisco's mission district. They were hoping to destroy the police car as revenge for the murder of the SLA members. But the bomb never went off a few weeks later on August twentieth. Patricia planted a bomb outside the Marin county Civic Center while Steve place to second one under a police car, they hoped the police would rush out after the first bomb exploded, then be killed in the second explosion Patricia bomb did go off. But Steve's didn't. No one was hurt. In the meantime, the F B I started following Kathy Soliah, she I caught their attention with the same SLA memorial service that inspired Patricia and the Harris's defined her though, it took several months for the police to put together a profile on Soliah, the eventually discovered her involvement with the N W L F, she unintentionally lead the F B I to Bill and Emily Harris apartment and then to Patricia's. On September eighteenth nineteen seventy five the authorities found Patricia in her apartment and arrested her she didn't try to shoot the agents or fight back. She confirmed she was Patricia Hearst and went with them willingly her strange life. As a revolutionary was finally over twenty five. Less than thirty minutes ago. We arrested Patty, Hearst and windy, Yasha Muira. But in police custody Patricia continued to act like an SLA member as she was escorted inside the courthouse in front of reporters and spectators. She threw up her fist in a revolutionary gesture in her autobiography she wrote, quote, it seemed to me that I was trapped in this Netherland of radicals and revolutionaries. There's was the only world I had I did not really know what I believed anymore. She refused to cooperate with the authorities or tell them anything about her time with the SLA win. Patricia was booked into the San Mateo jail, she listed, her occupation. As an urban guerrilla. She wrote letters to Steve Soliah from jail telling him how she couldn't wait for them to be together and talking about the fascist pig. Police Patricia was charged with armed Bank robbery and the use of a firearm a felony. These charges were exclusively related to the nineteen seventy four Hibernia Bank robbery, as it was the only crime the police had concrete evidence for in preparation for the trial. She was given a mental fitness test. According to her autobiography one psychiatrist Dr Lifton ruled she was emotionally and mentally impaired to a significant degree sad. Hopeless emotionally, distressed and expressing a silent cry for help. He also diagnosed her as suffering from coercive persuasion, which is the more. Formal term for brainwashing. Patricia noted in her auto biography that lifting told her quote one does not revert back with the snap of the fingers upon being released. This might explain her behavior and resistance to thority after being arrested. She was still in the mindset of an SLA Geant because their beliefs had been drilled into her day in and day out for the last year. And a half though, she had been a victim of psychological manipulation Patricia was deemed mentally fit to proceed to trial. So court date was set the proceedings began on February fourth nineteen seventy six two years to the day after she was kidnapped. The courtroom was packed with spectators and reporters everyone wanted the scoop on what really happened to Patricia Hearst. According to her autobiography more than three hundred reporters came to cover the event, but most of them couldn't fit inside the courtroom. Patricia lawyer F Lee Bailey, presented her as a brainwashed prisoner of war. He blamed everything that she had done on the fact that she had been kidnapped. He used examples of brainwashed Korean war POW's. However, the prosecution argued that Patricia was a willing member of the SLA they pointed to her recorded communiques, the Mel sporting goods shootout and submitted pages from the book about the SLA that Patricia was writing they called Emily and Bill Harris as witnesses against her. Tom Matthews the teen who had been held hostage alongside Patricia when he was carjacked after the mel's sporting goods shootout testified that she was. A willing radical at that time when Patricia took the witness stand the prosecutor asked why she saved the Harrises from mel's instead of leaving them Patricia replied that it was an instinct that came from her drills with the SLA the prosecution also presented the Olmec monkey pendant from Willie Wolfe as proof that Patricia had not been coerced. It was found in her purse when she was arrested over a year after wolf's death. If she was truly afraid of him considered him to be her kidnapper and rapist, why did she keep a gift from him it through everything into doubt her trial lasted over a month during this time Patricia received death threats and the media remained convinced. She was guilty on March. Twentieth. Nineteen seventy six the jury agreed with the papers Patricia Hearst was found guilty Campbell. Hurst has been convicted onto counts of Bank. Bank robbery and possession of a firearm to commit a felony. The verdict was reached Des for only twelve hours of deliberations by jury of seven women and five men on April twelfth she was sentenced to twenty five years for the Hibernia Bank robbery and ten years for the use of a firearm in that robbery. It was devastating to Patricia and her family, but after she underwent a psychological study, the judge decided to lessen the sentence on September twenty fourth nineteen Seventy-six. Her sentence was reduced to seven years Bill and Emily Harris were eventually sentenced to eleven year to life prison terms. Although the only served about eight years of it Patricia couldn't bear the fact that they had received only a few more years than her on their sentence when they had been involved in all of the same crimes, but also kidnapped her her family couldn't bear it either. They decided to appeal her case to president Jimmy Carter on Jan. Thirtieth nineteen Seventy-nine he commuted her sentence. Patricia was freed two days later after serving a total of twenty one months in prison. The brutal is Asian of her can never scape. I'm sure from her heart, and certainly that those who are very close to. And in two thousand one President Bill Clinton issued Patricia a full pardon for her crimes today, the public consensus is that Patricia suffered from Stockholm syndrome, but at the time of her trial. The condition was basically unheard of the term itself was only coined six months before she was taken by the SLA. They're still debate among psychologists about whether or not Stockholm syndrome is real it's not listed in the DSM five. The American psychiatric association's classification of mental disorders, some psychologists believe it's more of a media buzzword than an actual, psychological syndrome. But the connection persists Patricia kidnapping and crimes remain practically synonymous with the diagnosis. Thanks again for tuning into female, criminals. 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Johnjay & Rich Present: SHOOT YOUR SHOT

Johnjay & Rich On Demand

12:12 min | 4 months ago

Johnjay & Rich Present: SHOOT YOUR SHOT

"That number again is eight. Seven seven nine three seven one four seven john gene rich studying richest time to shoot your shot. We have some. We have adrian on the line in she. I say during the she. Oh agency he. I'm sorry adrian. It's okay it's from the rocky movies. You know yo. Adrian so my apologies so adrian. You're shoot your shot right so why you give a little setup of what's the story behind you shooting your shot first of all. Thank you so much open now. I feel like you guys definitely could help me out of my situation. So i'm really into this girl who lives in my apartment complex I live on the second floor. She lives on the third floor so we have passing conversations in the stairwells every now and then. I usually help her out with groceries. Starting to be gentlemen when i run into her because i know walking up three flights of stairs. That's kind of a pain in the butt It's good for your but develop but go ahead yeah but Her name's brie and she's just a she's such a genuine person. i mean. She cares so much about her family and friends. At least from what i can tell And we have a lot of common to which which makes me really interested in her She's very attractive. She's very beautiful and she kind of has this natural lake look going. I'm sorry like no makeup or anything. And i i just i love it so i'm calling you guys because i want to shoot my shot and do you know if she's in a relationship at all. I don't believe she's in a relationship. I do believe she is single. Kinda reminds me of emily harris number when chef. He was in a relationship. So that's that's the first thing. Clarify your interactions with her. Are they flirty like. Do you get the vibe that when you shoot your shot. She's gonna say yes are hoping but if the vibe that she might be interested i mean if this goes sideways going to be so lackluster box. Yeah you're gonna continue. Seen her move you know on a different note. She might be so afraid that it's gonna go terrible. She might say yes just because she doesn't want it to be awkward. And then you can build the romance unless you don't want the romance and it's even more awkward actually going on the day going to get married just because she doesn't want to say no. It's good to go to car right adrian. So the way this works. We're gonna give you sixty seconds on a timer and i'm assuming you say shoot your shot. You're going to ask her out right. You want to ask her out on a date right and the date you ask her out on. I would assume. I'm not gonna do you want to do but i would assume that. You probably don't want to say come downstairs and netflix and chill. If she's on the third floor you're on the second floor that you wanna make somewhat spend so My family does his annual easter party. And it's this big event. You know we have games. We have a ton of food Cornel all this stuff family on the first date. Oh my i have a. I have a humongous family. Their trust me. You probably wouldn't even meet everybody in an event like that. They're all so friendly there also nice. It's actually would be a really good thing. I went on a first day and it was dinner with this guy's family and he had a big family and it was like they were all super nice. It was great. But i was like. That was so weird. I can't go out with this guy again. Wow but it's like because it was just it's just too. It's very overwhelming even for someone who like like like. I said like the family was great. Everyone was super nice. This guy was awesome. But i was just like whoa to me. That was like almost a weird red flag of some sort and i couldn't pinpoint it but it was too much. Yeah i'm with kyle. I mean obviously there's people that are big family people that love the think it's a it's a it's a plus. I should be my family. But that's a big thing. Have you been living there with her. I mean within the building. I think our interactions has been a couple of months. But i've been living in the building Two years now okay. So a couple months. She's senior i mean so it's like you know what i mean so and you guys have chatted a little bit real quick extorting about I remember when blake. My mom blake but my mom and we were a similar. I remember we. We're north of town and she'd been one time was on fukushima ma. This is my mom. Whenever i went on then like cut to three weeks later i took my wife. I was dating. We wouldn't even date already dating. We will co workers who had to go into the taco shop that liked we were south and my back is facing the door of the restaurant and blake his her. She's facing the door. My back is bad to this bike. Goes oh i think your mom just walked into the restaurant. And i look at her and i go you know blake not every little old lady. Mexican lady is my mom juice. Woody of course. Not i turn around and it was. My mom took mexican part of town thought. Oh was my mom. Why god is like your favorite taco place. That's i knew about it because of my mouth to your own anyway agent. We're gonna call break. We're gonna give you sixty seconds on the clock to ask her out and do your thing when it comes. Spend the celebrate. The lord rising with my whole family So great adrian. She's gonna say y'all adrian live from rocky. Shoot your shot next on rich. So in the middle of shoot your shot you've got adrian who wants to shoot his shot with brie. Liz apartment complex on the third floor second floor. They've had little exchanges here there what he said he helped her carry stuff up stuff. Nice nightstop neighborly. Last couple of months. She's been living there. He's been there two years so he wants to ask her out on our radio show and one of the things he's gonna ask out to is to his big family easter celebration which is just so crazy. I mean like again with about how if it doesn't like just in general normal date is going to be uncomfortable. It doesn't work out. He take you to the family thing. He must have big hopes for him. But you ready adrian ready. Let's do it. Shoot your shot. We'll give you timer. you have by waiting for. We're going to get her on the phone. And then you're to give you the okay timer. You don't wanna do it before we get on the phone because you're gonna have to do it again with written john. Jay takes a second. We gotta get her college right now. You'll hear start to talk to her. And then you'll hear you'll know we'll bring you up second bree. I would have my headphones so low because Hello good morning. Is this bree her hybrid. Good morning. this is the john. Jay rich radio. Show how are you. Oh hey i'm good. How are you doing while is it. Okay we put you on the radio so we can talk to you Sure bree we have a segment on our show called. Shoot your shot and a lot of these could fall underneath the category of shoot your shot. You know One of them happens to be romantic. Intentions were say a guy likes the girl. The guy wants to use our show to ask a girl out and we give them sixty seconds to do it on our show and that's just so happens to be the case with you today. How's that make you feel calm. I guess it's cool. I can't wait to see who it is. I guess a single person. Yeah that makes it easier so Juliette tell her. She told her who this or no. What do you guys think so. We'll tell you who it is and then we're going to bring them up you guys can say hi for second they. We're going to start timer. We're going to let them give them sixty seconds so the person that wants to ask you out is adrian. He lives in your apartment complex. He's the guy in the second floor while okay. So adrian say hi agree k now oh good to start the clock adrian and you have sixty seconds to shoot your shot at. I'm doing over the radio. But i just want to do something big to shoot my shot. Because i think you're worth it. And i know you're all about having a good time being surrounded by great and wholesome people so i really wanted to see if you wanted to go to my family's annual easter party with me big event we do corn. Royal or cornwall. We bought a balloon fights. I mean relay races everything. There's gonna be a ton of food The company and you're just gonna love everybody. And i think he would have so much fun Coming to this party with me and my big crazy family what do you say. Oh my gosh adrian. This is crazy. I know i. I wanted to go out with a bang because i feel like would be a great story to tell if you yes yes i'll i'll need. Sounds like a lot of fun. Ooh wow he he'd even uses sixty seconds she said yes at forty five seconds. That's yes i'm i'm so ready for this We got put on desert duties. So we gotta start brain brainstorming. Something good that's all i gotta say. Okay i'm in oven. Run downstairs real quick in around there. He has become a couple on the air with us. Jokes just kidding breed. Did you see this coming. That adrian was going to ask you out. I don't know. I mean we just you know friends for a little while. I had no idea like how he felt about me. I kind of had a little crush. He eventually ask don't queue so it's going to be a big enough thing is a huge family and in the middle. He wants you to say the prayer before you guys down here. Do you believe in the lord. Jesus christ. I believe in a really good fun easter party. Okay john just stop to ruin this start so surprised that i grew up going to church so it is that the end of the party at the to sit and watch the blooper reel from pasha. The christ oh my god john. Jay way to help easter adrian. You guys for me if somebody invited me to easter party like on a date and we live in the i'd be more apt to say. Can we just move in the first before golden your whole family. I'm amazed at how casual that's why they're gonna work out could be fun since she's so. Yeah let why. Not for whatever pressed It's not like jessica theory is dinner. It's like they're going to be playing games. It's going to be fun. Aren't you guys congratulations. We've got to have the numbers or anything because you just right on righteous. Just walk downstairs. What's up let's go pip sunday. All right you got it. That's shoot your shot jane rich.

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What Kind of Spanish Do You Speak? The U.S. as a Spanish-Speaking Country

Entre Dos Podcast

25:21 min | 2 years ago

What Kind of Spanish Do You Speak? The U.S. as a Spanish-Speaking Country

"It indicates a podcast about waiting bombing length length when our guests emily harris berger of the podcast reach out to us about collaborating on an episode episode. She mentioned something that peeked interest. I am from spanish speaking country. She said there are forty one million spanish speakers in the u._s. <hes> we had never looked at the u._s. As a spanish speaking country but that conversation opened up an interesting discussion with emily and with salvatore califano the guests in our previous episode about the type of spanish spoken in the u._s. Our perceptions of it and whether there truly is a u._s. Spanish emily is a bilingual communicator who works with companies and organizations to reach spanish speaking audiences but she's also a mom raising bilingual children in grand rapids michigan. If you haven't listened to episode with authority make sure you do will link it in the show notes and now here's emily one one of the things that when i when i listened to your interview with liberty molinaro spot aloes she establishes that translation translation is sort of an exercise in communication that that's its primary concern right and that really helps us establish where she stands in this debate it you know and this is something that we've said in the past about how language is a means to communicate right at interfering too much with it <hes> to make like a correction or an adjustment can break down that effort particularly with a child that they're still sort of developing these skills so and and in the episode led these makes the case for the united states being illegitimate spanish speaking country and she proposed the term if other tony these small and i wanted you emily to talk a little bit about that. I will say that going into the interview in latisha. I had already read some of things she's written and listen to some of her interviews. I knew that i was already on board essentially with what she was proposing in her vision of the the u._s. and one of my little buzz phrases that i always use is that the u._s. is a spanish speaking country because according into different estimates roughly the average number that people are going to report of spanish speakers in the us around forty million. Sometimes some people counted a little differently only. It's a little higher lower but let's just it's forty million. That's greater than the population of peru so you know if you're just looking at numbers alone and you wanna. Eh situate the u._s. Somewhere in the spectrum of all the different spanish speaking countries around the world. Why wouldn't you call the u._s. A spanish speaking country and also if you look at the history of spanish in the united states. It's not like oh you know ten or fifteen years ago all of a sudden. There's this boom in spanish speakers. I mean most of the u._s. Was spanish speaking prior to becoming english speaking so there's a lot of different dynamics that influence my view that i share would let these your monte nido that the spanish speaking country and when it comes to istanbul needs moose mike conversation with her actually made made me kind of confront my own prejudice against established these most thinking about communication shen being the function of language. You know its reason for being and you know. I've had several conversations since pinsk. I don't know if i'm trying to find people to convert them to establish navy's. Most you know not that people convert them to the side of recognizing is what do you mean. <hes> you know like i'm thinking of what a conversation i had with a colleague who's originally from mexico city but you know he's been living here for. I don't know how many decades and he's like. I hate when people say <unk> gad and i'm thinking of all these reasons why that is just a arbitrary kind of emotional final reaction because nobody complains about being the spanish word for park and also in several latin american countries backyards the standard and nobody nobody looks at it as some sort of spangler or bastardize spanish word so it's very complex but i think if you can try to strip yourself of emotional reactions or the automatic assumption that just because spanish in the u._s. is going to be in contact with english that somehow diminishes the value of the spanish and i think even if you have a certain standard you not judge whether something is spanish for pigeon or mix of the wrong thing you can just look to all of latin america and maybe even include spain and and other places where spanish is spoken and you'll probably find something similar equivalent so it just kind of like when i think all of the arguments against a finding the u._s.'s a spanish speaking in countries start to crumble when you look at it that way you know when you're talking about that struggle of accepting estella needs most right at something that's legitimate and real. Oh which i i think it is <hes> you know these value judgments are ubiquitous right. You know you find them among spanish speakers in the u._s. and also in latin america america and and a lot of these sort of forces go way beyond language into social comic factors and race and ethnicity and and even postcolonial attitudes right so and i imagine you know our kids sort of being in the middle of the boondoggle trying to figure out sort of the semi of something that that they they have very little grasp and they're still learning the language and it's just impossible for them and and i feel i feel sort of like a little bit of responsibility of carrying the baggage because i i have in the past sort of had issues with people using if i have that and and i feel like i i i like that this is something that is now sort of being discussed in a real sort of high levels of you know academia and people that are really just trying to make this something that's legitimate unofficial official because i think that we need to come to terms with that and and these sort of structures that define what a language is what it should be are sort of acknowledging this that helps house. I think there's two different points that you made that are really interesting. Relevant to me in one is kind of like a hierarchy the of needs when it comes to language because when your children are first learning a language they're worried about whether the words coming out of their mouth communicate you know like if they need food or water something you know like are they saying the right thing that we understand are they saying it clearly kind of that refining of actually getting the message passage across getting their needs met and then as they grow older you know giving meme this additional instruction shen are kind of exposing them to different scenario so that they understand the more social dynamics and kind of what they might confront out in the world world in possible ways to respond to it. You know but like when their kids are my age four and a baby under one. We're just trying to get the basics down at this point but there is an element of you know like i think even at four my son already any understands. Some people say certain words differently than we might say in our house when we're speaking spanish and he already gets an already witnessed him talking talking having conversations with other people will they'll use a little bit different vocabulary than us and he kinda gets it because he gets from context and goes with the flow and <hes> <hes> another thing. I think that i probably melted the two points i reference to one response but inc that <hes> preparing them for possible reactions and i don't know what it's going to be like. Oh my son enter school but i have heard a lot of stories he's from friends and colleagues of their children being corrected by a teacher or other figure when spanish is in the classroom setting because they have a different variety and being told that they're variety is wrong but i think that potentially eh that could be changing and also like you said we have a responsibility to our kids but i think our kids are also going to have such a a broader understanding and kind of a a more open minds when it comes to spanish because they are being raised in this very diverse linguistic environment and they already know like some people don't even speak spanish people speak other language languages. I just think it's going to be really interesting to see <hes> if they are a little bit more free of those emotional responses in that drive to correct somebody else you know. I don't know it's kind of like can experiment. It is and we can only hope i mean that's my hope and i think that's kind of how we started talking about this with you. Emily <hes> it's it's just that view that they are being exposed to the richness and diversity of the language by grown by learning at here because because there aren't those hangups that come with living in a particular culture and i mean i think that the the perceptions of spanish i mean they're not only about u._s. Spanish i mean i think monica mentioned it earlier even among latin american countries or even regions within within the same country. There's always these perceptions about or biases towards certain words. You're a non native speaker. Can you give us a little bit of background about how so you learned spanish or became fluent in spanish and your experiences with the language you talk about negative perceptions ends and so i'm curious to know if you've experienced kind of some utility about your spanish. I've realized at this point in my life. I have a lot of buzz phrases raises like i mentioned before so you know a question often is how did you learn spanish and i say well. I'm still learning spanish because it's as a lifelong. Learning i started learning in school growing up in south florida and it was just a little enrichment program in my elementary school. So i still remember it was a p._b._s. Produced series called silos and it was little videos with puppet in an real characters and you had some worksheets and that's how i i started learning it formerly however i was growing up in an environment where i don't think that <hes> now it's makes as much sense but like historically in south florida that was one of the early early places where spanish was celebrated as a second language or a common language of the community so i think that probably just helped me to embrace it and really wanna learn it if i had to reach back in hindsight and try to figure out what has been this dry for me to spend the majority of my life life yudo with spanish as my second language and that's also what i refer spanish spanish is my second language because everybody's always talking about english as a second language and i feel like in my life spanish has been meiling rich of school and work whereas english was my homeland which so in a way is they had reversed reversed roles for me and the other question i get a lot is did you ever live in spanish being country and i say i was born and raised in currently live in <unk> regained country with the little like yudo tongue-in-cheek <hes> because again you know i think if i can use spinach every day in my life here i must be living in a spanish speaking country no not just in my little nest with my kids but you know going out and places in relationships ships in socially in business and everything so i but you know apart from giving my buzzwords into the full disclosure. I also have a bachelors and masters in spanish. I just spent a significant amount of time. Studying spanish formerly i have spent a little bit of time time abroad in other spanish speaking countries than i have traveled to several latin american countries for work before and i think i had very interesting experiences well. I lived in washington d._c. For a number of years before moving to michigan riley now my last job there. I worked for a foundation that was based in in latin america me heads staff across fifteen countries and so we would have conference calls and there was always this negotiation with spanish vanished here. You have a bunch of spanish speakers and still they're having to negotiate will wait. What did you mean. I didn't understand that because you know just the righties and differences. Obviously you know there's a common understanding of the majority but there's always you know those occasional things that popped up and so oh that's kind of the general history of how i got to the point today spanish ring my second language in terms of the reactions to my spanish when i initially decided i was going to try to pass on all spanish. I have acquired over nearly thirty thirty years to buy children. I thought this is gonna be really odd. You know like how am i a legitimate member of the spanish speaking community. Am i trying to appropriate something. That's not mine is a little bit concerned but i haven't actually had a lot of negative reactions and i think in some cases the reactions that i have received have been signals to me too how important it is in how how much more we could be investing in maintaining in developing spanish as a heritage language because i have so many people tell me i wish i spoke spanish like you did or your spanish is so much better than mine and these are people who have a heritage connection to the spanish language so oftentimes the reactions are positive but also have this other layer that you know there are people who wished that their parents hadn't feared discrimination or you know worried that if they help their child continued develops finish than their english would suffer all of these myths that exist around maintaining a heritage language or they just didn't have as many resources available to them to continue to <hes> develop their spanish so i really haven't had a lot of negative experiences but it has opened up a lot of conversations with people that it helped me learn so much more about all these dynamics. That's great and you know. I would argue that. If anyone asks you why you know spanish what you speak spanish you can say that you are because you're from south florida. You are from spanish speaking country could be. I don't know if you've got brought to you. Heard all of our conversation with salvator we talk in <hes> a lot about miami and south florida okay and how unique it is in terms of uh of spanish speaking. I mean it really. I mean being in miami. I i can go on entire day without using english. It's amazing <hes> and you know when i think about spanish outside of miami right. It's sort of like a it's going through an interesting transition now and you zee news coverage for instance where people will be praising bilingual education and the cognitive advantages usually when they mean bilingual education most of the programs in the u._s. are spanish english right and you'll see spanish language pop culture and all this sort of embracing of the culture and the language but then on the other side right you'll see stories of people you know being questioned and really put in dangerous situations for speaking spanish public. There's there's no sort of sort of these two different. I don't know forces that are completely against each other and i i really like you know. I really like this concept of saying hey <hes> the united states is a spanish speaking country tree and there is no question about that. I really really appreciate both you and the d._c. Has sort of having this conversation about i- about this particular topic because i think even stronger than you know the benefits of bilingualism for instance because i think that sort of i it sort of really affects the culture two of how we see language and the people that speak it and how they are part of this country and how essential that is i have never looked into this but it's just coming to my now for those countries that not only have multiple official languages but really their education in system and also over continue period of time like not a recent surge in dueling which education like i feel like we're kind of having in a boom of dual language education in the u._s. But you know like canada are certain european countries where it's just there's always been a presence of multiple languages in you know officially officially through the education system. Both those languages are supported for every generation coming up and interest. You know pervasive. I wonder you know how do they refer to themselves. Like we are bilingual country. We are french in english speaking country like in the case of canada you know what is that identity that they have for their country. You know what does it even mean when we say spanish speaking doesn't have to mean only spanish because again like that argument would crumble because if you look at a lot of countries countries in latin america you know how many other indigenous languages are spoken you look at spain and they have you know balenciaga noga olga giggle all these other you know and then there's arguments about whether those are dialects or languages you know i think we all consider ourselves people who embrace multilingualism and language diversity diversity and all this stuff but then you realise sometimes it's just these moments or these conversations are questioning of a definition and then if you just dig a little deeper you know you might as well. I'm kind of unfairly judging the united states or the united states or the spanish speaking population of the united states because i'm i'm acting like the spanish speaking world. Is this monolith that we have. We don't have all the credentials to enter but it's not like that truly so oh. It helps to just kind of allow yourself. I think the freedom to not judge ourselves so harshly you know and look at the rest of the spanish speaking rauner me like hey we're all kinda in this mixed together when there's no one ideal spanish or spanish speaking country definition or identity. I think that this is something again. If we allow ourselves to not judge yourself so harshly and dig a little deeper there's always kind of disbarring of languages and sometimes it's not even negative like if you think in a certain certain era using a french term when france was kind of the capital of culture and you know all things things <hes> unknowing <unk> haute couture right because you know using the french phrase had that cachet and this this may seem out of left field but just stay with me. I'm part of a book club too and we read oliver works in spanish and some of them earn translations. Some of them are original original works in spanish so right now i wasn't there somebody chose anakin any nut in spanish and i've been reading it for anyway but it's but it so i know but it's so interesting to me because this is a book written in the nineteenth century and there's all these comments comments about you know how old they spoke french in front of their hired. Servants women didn't want them to understand. Are you know she knew he had forgiven her because he spoke to her using while in this version because <unk> saying instead or something and i'm like what are the the pronouns in russia and anyway all these things about language or commented in the book in the mix of languages and how you know speaky throwing in english words throwing in a french word it was kind of like you had this signal that you were a person of the world you know in cultured and everything and so i think if you look just in across different countries in different languages and different context and historical periods. There's always been a need to just import a word because it came from a different culture or just made more sense or you didn't have an equivalent and then also how so many languages this basically how languages even develop in the first place in just then you get enough time away from the original importing from another language and you forget that even had had that origin and it becomes pure or you know only spanish without any influence or things like that so it's like nothing is really has ever been pure. Everything everything has always come from mixing in contact and you then kind of on the flip side or just you know getting back to our current moment moment in history. I just had a situation come up with a translation jobs that i was doing in the referred a two baby showers and then their marketing company that was putting my translation into the design kicked back in there like the translator didn't translate baby showers and i was like okay. I'm sorry that was actually intentional not an oversight because everybody just says baby shower so you know like nope. There's no translation for that like it would take to space. I would have to be like will nephews. The barda celebrity lesbian less financy laugh n._f._c. bad. They you know what what would i am say and so you know and i think that again. It's like you can get so focused sometimes on wanting to do the right thing or the correct thing and i am guilty of this every single day. Hey you know twenty four hours a day like oh. I'm doing the right thing in the correct thing like double checking myself and not want to teach my kids wrong thing. You know when really <hes> i should probably we just relaxed because whatever language they're going to be speaking you know with their friends is going to be so different from what i taught them anyway. Because that's just the nature of language thank you to emily hunt burger for speaking with us about this topic make sure are you also listen to our conversation with her over to leia podcast dot com we discussed in spanish our take on the spanish. Our children are growing up with if if you like this episode please tell your friends or anyone you think may be interested. Get asked as always join the conversation on facebook instagram or twitter at enter those else podcast sima knows <music> <music>.

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The Psychology of Anti-Vaxxers

More Content Talk

22:23 min | 6 d ago

The Psychology of Anti-Vaxxers

"Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of more content talk. That's the only show that cuts through the glamour glitz and all the bullshit to bring you the truth. Easiest news that we can find. I have something very interesting for you. Here today For the first time anywhere that i've seen I'm actually going to take a look at the psychological Roots of anti vacs attitudes as evidenced by the american psychological association. So this is no Speculation here this is a very important show. If you want to understand why we are in the place. We are in history right now. There are very clear reasons. I've talked about them kind of scattered around in other shows. But i wanted to give you a specific episode on the actual psychological root causes of anti vaccine behavior and If you're listening and you're anti vaccine This is not to ridicule you. This is to help you. And if you're listening and you know an antibac- cer- this information will be extremely valuable to you. So i advised that you listen to the entire episode And if you're neither of those then it's just really cool information to know actually I personally am kind of really big into the psychological roots of political causes. It's something that a lot of political scientists overlook they tend to look at things vary linearly without looking at the root causes of specific behaviors. But this right here should clue you it onto those specific behaviors. So what is the name of the article will be name of. The article. Is the psychological roots of anti vaccination attitudes at twenty four nation investigation. So this is no small pop science. Study okay twenty. Four nations in this is A copyrighted steady by the american psychological association and It is by matthew. J hornsey. Emily harris in kelly s fielding at the university of queensland. Let's go ahead and get into the bulk of showy all right so why do antibac- series behave the way they do. Well let's find out what science has to say about it when it comes to converting skeptics. It is widely understood that there are limitations to this approach. I the process of explication implies that the key problem with those who hold anti vaccination attitudes is lack of exposure to information or failure to understand information the so-called deficit model of science communication. But there is no clear evidence for this people who hold anti vaccination attitudes are often no less educated than others and tend to spend relatively large amount of time seeking information on the internet about vaccinations. So i just saw a report on the news today and i was screaming at it because it was. I believe dr gupta and he was saying. Oh you know people just have questions. We need to get the information out there. That's not true according to science Actually people who are anti vaccines study vaccinations. Just as much if not more than people who get them. So as i've stated several times in prior shows it is not about a lack of information and i. i really don't understand why people are so obsessed about with that because that's not what it is at least for anti vaccines. i mean. maybe there are people who are not anti vaxxers. Who if you give them information that will work but A real anti vaccine is not simply doing this because they're afraid of the specific vaccine all right. There are other reasons. So let's get into this a little bit more second. There is limited evidence that repeating evidence makes a demonstrable difference to the beliefs and behaviors of those who hold anti vaccination attitudes when approach has been to highlight anti vaccination miss and then to refute them with evidence but a recent experiment conducted on three hundred fifteen american suggested that the provision of corrective information had no significant effect on their vaccination attitudes other studies suggested the potential for boomerang effects for example to experiments on german community members showed that extreme risk negation messages resulted in increased perceptions vaccination risk. Did you hear that. Do you have any idea how important that is. Let me read it for you one more time. Because this is what i've been saying throughout the whole pandemic and everyone seems to think i'm crazy and it really pisses me off because they have hardcore evidence that i'm not so please listen to this. Other studies suggest the potential for boomerang ethics to experiments on german community members showed that extreme risk negation messages resulted in increased perceptions of vaccination risks. So that means the more you tell them to get vaccinated the more they don't want to get vaccinated. That's what that means. That's why if you look over time vaccination slowed over time because the more and more you tell people about it the less and less they trusted. It's very weird effect but it actually does happen in another study. Americans were exposed to an intervention in which they were exposed to either a corrective information about the lack of evidence that the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine causes autism text describing. The dangers of the diseases prevented by mr images of children suffering from diseases. That can be prevented by mr or a narrative describing the near death experience of an infant who contracted measles compared to a control. None of the intervention significantly improved participants intentions to vaccinate a future child. In fact participants who entered into the experiment with relatively low favorability toward vaccines showed lower intentions to vaccinate in the information condition than the control condition. Corrective information doesn't work going around the internet correcting people and providing them with evidence and being rational and being reasonable does not work on these people. It doesn't you can't you. Can't make an argument that it does because we already have scientific studies. This is from twenty fourteen. All right this is old news. That's why i say like you're not as smart as you think you are. A lot of people let people think they're so smart but really no because you're not doing the real research the hard stuff. The digging it research is a process it takes awhile. It's one of the reasons. Science moves slowly and scientific discoveries move slowly and why you know you end up boomerang on things like mass mandates is because you find out new information but what's crazy is that this is not new information. This has been around a long time. So let's see what else we have here. According to the model of attitude roots sub clinical fears and phobias can underpin some anti-science beliefs. Listen to that. Did you hear that fears. And phobias can underpin some anti science believes. Do you know people. I'm sure you do because everyone does. Who just won't go to the doctor. They just won't eat. When's the last time you've been doctor. I don't know a couple of years a couple years. That's kind of a longtime. Maybe good and then i i'm not i'm not i don't wanna go fear. Fear makes you very stupid things. People forget that. Let's continue for example. Some people have heightened discuss reactions to needles hospitals in blood. Well that discourages. Vaccinations doesn't it. Adverse reactions to needles hospitals in blood will a lot of the vaccination availability at hospitals. But even if that's not the case Blood needle some people are terrified of it. I know a person who thankfully she got the vaccine. But i had to convince it took a long time to convince her to get it because she's just so terrified of needles and you wouldn't think that but the phobia really does exist. Look it up. It's a fear of like they're afraid of getting things sucked out of them. It's it's a very odd fear but it's true. It's their people who experience these heightened disgust. Reactions might be tempted to develop a set of attitudes that gives them permission to avoid the triggers for their disgust for example a rejection of techno medical interventions in skepticism are hesitancy toward immunizations consistent with this notion there is evidence that disgust sensitivity correlates with people's beliefs about trust sensitive scientific advances such as attitudes toward vaccination and genetically modified foods this is nossa and christopher from our content and more content talk. I am telling us anger. First of all because anchor is free which is a really good reason but anchor also has awesome creation tools that allow you to create your podcast directly from your browser or phone anchor will distribute your podcast on spotify apple podcast and more. You can make money on anchor with With no minimum listenership is everything. You need to make a podcast in one place. Download the free anchor app or go to anchor. Fm to get started today because anchor is awesome just like more content please. Yes by disgust sensitivity correlates with people's beliefs about trust sensitive scientific advances such as attitudes toward vaccination and genetically modified foods. If you notice a lot of the people who don't trust vaccines don't trust. Gmo's either and a lot of other science stuff. Do you know why that is is because they have these heightened discuss reactions a lot of them. They get disgusted very easily by medicine and scientific things and so when they're in that state of disgust. There's no reasoning with them. Discussed is a very powerful emotion. Reactivates the value expressive function of an attitude captures the capacity of attitude to communicate to yourself and others the type of person that you would like to be not the person that you are that you would like to be very important. Distinguishing between the two. They're different Who you would like to be is like the perfect self year. You're saying you're trying to get to when you talk about striving towards something so this is very important to people. It's synonymous with their career their livelihood their sense of self. That's why these people feel so attacked by the way according to the model type of person. Excuse me According to the model of attitude routes when function that anti-science believes might have is to establish one's reputation as a nonconformist someone who is skeptical of consensus views and intolerance of people telling them how to think i e as someone high in reactivates telling them that to the extent that people nurture this self image they may be motivated to reject consensus views like immunization as good as a shorthand way of communicating and nonconformist identity to the self and others. See you see what's going on there. Some people are so hell bent on just being contrary are being different than everyone else that it actually does them harm and it makes them reject science because to them that is their identity. Their identity is based upon rejection of science because their identity is based on what belief not science. And that's why tell you very often. How dangerous belief can be and look. I understand that some people can handle it but there are good amount of people who can't obviously and so it's still a problem regardless of whether or not you show me some people who well here's a religious person or believer just anyone who believes anything over science and prioritize. Here's a person who got vaccinated. That doesn't impress me because a guarantee there's some nonsense they believe in somewhere and if you look hard enough you'll always find it you'll always find their adverse. Gmo's or they don't they think there's a big pharma conspiracy theory thing. Someone kill jfk something. There's always something so. This is looking at a much larger problem but in a very specific way in terms of vaccines. But you see it has its contrary and attitude. It's a it's a skepticism. That is much more cynical. It's don't tell me what to do. I don't listen to people in lab coats. And listen to narrates. It's that kind of stuff some idiotic shit that donald trump would say now individualism and hierarchy worldviews. This one's very interesting. The theory of cultural cognition makes the case that culturally ingrained ideological orientations shape appraisals of risk evidence and scientific consensus. The theory focuses on two types of worldviews individualism community communitarianism and hierarchy realism egalitarianism. The individualism construct focuses on the extent to which people think it is preferable for individuals to make decisions for themselves. And you hear that touted around in this country like his bag of honor like everyone should be allowed to do anything they want to do. At all times and no one should ever tell anyone wants to do and that's somehow going to hold a society together which should totally doesn't because then you just don't have a government anymore. Yeah not good As opposed to society and government making decisions for individuals the hierarchy realism government construct focuses on the extent to which people think that hierarchies in power differences are natural and healthy parts of society. As opposed to thinking that society needs more equality and egalitarianism. See see that that's a hierarchical way of thinking when you're talking about. Oh there's just some people who were naturally smarter and better things than other people. And that's why they're rich. Yeah that just means you're anti egalitarian. Ism that's all it means you're anti equality that's all that means. It doesn't have to be that way you you're making it that way by thinking that anyway Although they are distinct constructs theory and research shows that they share attitudinal correlates for example people. Who subscribe to relatively individualistic and hierarchical. Values are more inclined to value commerce and free enterprise and so are motivated to believe that big government is a problem that people who are more likely to value commerce in free enterprise over government see government as a problem almost all of the time without fail. It's the government's fault and it's always the government's fall even if it's big businesses fault from time to time it. Still the government's fault at the end of the day. And i hear that from people who you'll be talking about something as simple as like amazon them doing terrible things to their workers in the next thing you know people are talking to you. About how bad the government is has nothing to do with it. Nothing to do with it. The government doesn't control amazon and yet it's still the government's fault. They're still involved. How the government everywhere well because you have a hierarchical or an individualistic mindset and so you just expect that because you trust business over government and that's your personal bias. If that's the way you are very simple and there are many people like that on the left and the right by the way. It's not just the right. It's both built infested with people like that. People value money over society because the government is representative of the society. So if you value commerce and free enterprise more than the government you just don't care about society really much more concerned with your profit margin wallet and you know your wallet is right next to your ass utilize get your head in there. And that's the reality of it. In contrast people who subscribe to relatively egalitarian communitarian values are more likely to have a moral suspicion of big business and so are motivated to embrace the risks that commerce and free enterprise presents to the environment and to people although these ideological variables have been shown to have a robust relationship with some anti-science beliefs. The link with vaccination attitude is less clear on one hand. It is possible that moral suspicion of big business with generalize to immoral suspicion of big pharma. And that's another fake made up thing big pharma. This whole idea that there's a bunch of businessmen that are taking over. The world is also silly which in turn would be associated with skepticism or hesitancy toward vaccinations on the other hand. It is possible that immunization might be viewed as an excessive big government initiative. And so be treated with scepticism by those high in individualistic and hierarchical worldviews consistent with this hierarchical. Beliefs are associated with higher possessions Perceptions of hp vaccine risk and vaccine support is negatively correlated with belief in the free market. So there you have it. Some people hate big business and that can become big pharma and create vaccine hesitancy and you know vaccine skepticism and downright anti vacs behavior but so can Hierarchical worldviews an individual individualistic worldviews. Which characterized government has the bad guy all of the time oftentimes for no reason creating conspiracy theories and anti vaccination attitudes so you see what it mixed bag this is you see how complicated a problem this is but you want the problem solved today right so that you can go to disneyland but you're not selfish rate as nothing to do with the fact that you know people are self absorbed. It's that it's that you know they. They have that right that bright in the constitution. That says you can go to disneyland. Make people sick. You see what. I don't care you listen to these people. There's no reason to don't feel sorry for these people. Don't waste your time because the sad part of this is. Is that the only way you could have really saved. These was years ago when they were little children. And you are still talking all that shit about not caring you know. Whatever is someone else's kid. It's someone else's problem. Well now it's your problem. Funny how that works on when you just ignore things. They tend to come back and bite you in the ass. Are everyone Thank you so much for joining me here. I'm more content tonight. We appreciate it very much. please share the show shared around. If you like it. If you don't like it share it let people know about it You can find us on a more content. Talk at youtube tick-tock at instagram. And you can also find us at twitter at more. Underscore content ls aright. Everyone have a wonderful day evening afternoon. Siesta fiesta downtime. Chill time lunchtime naptime whenever it may be and remember when life gets you down you can always laugh at something else farewell folks.

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22. Diversify and Thrive with Sami Gayle

FOMO Sapiens with Patrick J. McGinnis

32:15 min | 4 months ago

22. Diversify and Thrive with Sami Gayle

"Fomo wonderful child actor career until the financial crisis in two thousand and eat which was a time in which broadway was struggling and there weren't a ton of opportunities for somebody my age never mind the fact that it's so hard to get opportunities on broadway and so i didn't know what was going to be nice. I thought it was going to have to move home. And i really experienced the riskiness of show. Is that. sami gayle. Actress producer singer and activist. I'm your host. Patrick mcguinness and this is komo sapiens with the world spinning out of control. It can be impossible to know what to do and what to miss out on. That's called fomo which is short for fear of missing out. How do i know. Because i coined the term and on the world's first full modest and this is the show where i ask. Entrepreneurial thinkers people. I call fomo sapiens. How they live and work with conviction no matter what life throws at them bomb sapiens. I'm excited here this week with you going to tell you something. If there's one thing i will miss about covid is actually something. Not many things but one thing. It's some of the zoom events. I've been able to go to. I have been lucky to be invited to some really cool events. I'm sure you have to. And i definitely think we're gonna have zoom events in the future we're gonna live in a little bit more of a world where we do. Online offline morse. I guess synchronous way. I guess you could say but it won't be the same and i have to tell you. There's this really cool series of events that i've been going to other thrown by call john levy and john will be on the show later this season he calls them influence or dinners but now they're online and he gets all these crazy people together and much of people who've come on the show i met through those dinners including recent gas dr emily harris so thanks. John won't be seeing you soon. Now at one of those dinners. I actually met with no dinner. I mean i was just sitting in my apartment. But i met a woman called robin bronk. Who runs the creative alliance. Which is a group of people out in hollywood and in new york and other places and creative industries that that actually lobby on the hill for things are important to creativity like for example the national endowment of the arts and at one of those events i met a woman called. Sami gayle and i didn't know sammy's work. Actually she's Somebody who is unknown to me. But then i looked up and she's done a bunch of cool stuff and we were chatting a bed and when she found out that i was an nba. She asked me To chat more about an offline we ended up getting together on zoom. And i found out her life story and the things she does and i asked her to come on the show because she is a total form of sapiens. And i really want you to meet her. Sammy started life as a child. Actress on broadway and then joined the cast of blue bloods cbs. I think it's my parents favourite show starting in two thousand ten and she's been on the show ever since and she actually plays. The daughter of bridget. Moynahan the actress. Who as you remember was married to. Tom brady so in. It's almost like sammy is related to tom. Brady which it's pretty cool as a patriots fan. She then went onto study at columbia university in new york. She graduate in twenty eighteen. Now she's out there producing and acting. She's making films with her brother including twenty eighteen candy jar which you can find on netflix. But more than that she as an actress of course and she's making movies but she also is a very saudi investor. And i really like the way she thought about business. And so i wanted to her on the show today to talk about diversification. You know the arts. There's a lot of instability. She learned that early in life and sushi diversified herself. I wanna talk about investing strategy. And she has a really interesting for book marking stocks. And i wanna talk about the themes that bring all the things. She does together because it's not random. She has a plan. And i think for any of us who want to do a lot of things and meeting interesting and keep our lives interesting. Sammy's model is a good one. Now want to start this episode with something new. I'm going to do something totally new. And when start this episode and keep it going in the future and this is because i am really bad at asking for help. I'm terrible at it. I'm the guy who mentors a lot of people. But i never ask people for help and so i want to fix that so now on. I'm going to every week. Ask you for one. Tiny little thing. And i'm gonna call that my small ask okay. So my smallest for today is to share. This episode was somebody who enjoy it and ask them to subscribe boom. Okay dot moving on now. See small ask gary small. Now let's get onto the interview and to start the interview as i mentioned. Sammy is a multi hyphen it. She is a true formless. Apn's and so. I just wanted to start by asking her to list out all of the things that she does. Well first and foremost i like to say. I'm a professional emphasize there. I am an actor. I am also a philanthropist. I am a singer. I am investor. I am daughter. I am sister. I'm a fans. What else political and sorry do things in the political world. Yes i hesitate to say that. I am a politician. I think the stuff that i have done in the political world is political. But it's more like philanthropy. Gotcha educator given what i've done in the political world so those are a lot of things and so what i wanna start with is 'cause i i love that. By the way. I think that's what a formless. Apn's is somebody who does a lot of things and manages to do them without completely losing it. is there theme. When when you think about the things you do and step back twenty five feet or maybe ten thousand feet. What's the theme. I think everyone of mine boever's is about making a difference in the community is that i am part of that. Have given so much to me. And i think there are numerous ways through which i can do that and i think life is too short not to pursue every single one of them. Now you started acting when you were kid right. So you've been doing this for a while. And i imagine when you're you know we went back and ask you the same question ten years ago when you're first starting on i'm blue bloods. You wouldn't have had thirty different things you would. You wouldn't have been investing and maybe in the philanthropy in those other areas. You weren't doing at the time so kind of take us through how you started branching out from you know okay. I'm an actor too okay. I'm going to use this platform that. I'm building to do all kinds of other stuff absolutely so i started as an actress on broadway. I did a show called gypsy. And then a show called the grinch. And i had a very wonderful child actor career until the financial crisis. I'm in two thousand and eat. Which was a time in which broadway was struggling and there weren't a ton of opportunities for somebody my age never mind the fact that it's so hard to get opportunities on broadway and so i didn't know what was going to be next. I thought it was going to have to move home. And i really experienced the riskiness of showers s and for me my story. I was fortunate to have a very happy ending. I pretty much the day before. I was supposed to move back home to florida where i'm from after having been in new york working for two and a half years i was offered a role that would change my life. I co starred in a phone call detachment with adrian brodie in the last day that film adaptation and received the role that i've had in blue bloods for the last eleven years so everything turned out. Okay but i think that the riskiness of the business lived in me. It was not something. I could forget especially having experienced it at the same age that we learn languages right they experienced we have at eleven years old are so formative for how we live. Our lives moving forward. And so i was constantly looking for ways to protect myself against the riskiness of even a successful opportunity. Like blue bloods. I understood that no matter how much success you how things can happen. And so i diversified my portfolio. So to say right. I started looking for opportunities that could allow me upside. And that could protect me from any downside of the main thing that i was doing and i had the luxury of being successful in the side projects because i had a stable job that of me not to incur all the risks associated with pursuing entrepreneurial endeavors when you don't have something else so i started Writing my own music. I decided that. I wasn't being offered as many of the types of roles that i wanted to play was very passionate about telling Stories that might otherwise go unheard amplifying voices that were underrepresented. And i wasn't seeing enough of our. I wasn't getting enough of this opportunity. Aside decided why not take it into my own hands. My brother was a brilliant writer. We teamed up and started producing our own content. so we made a movie with netflix. Co-produce tonight stardom called the candy jar with the help of a wonderful producer. Judy cairo and we have since been developing two more films that are about to shoot this year. I got engaged in running a political campaign recently. My brother was running supervisor of elections in broward county. I helped him without putting together. A coalition of eighty young people across the united states To help people get signed up to vote by mail. Should they like to be in florida where my brother was running onto. Give young people education with regards to what it means to run for office asking person so i have branched out in many different ways of but i think the main reason why i did that was because i understood the riskiness of business and i also wanted to find the film in that. I wasn't getting from some of the projects that were offered to me. Certainly i was getting it from blue. Bloods but not always some of the others support for this podcast comes from paypal. Small business owners. Turn your smartphone into a cash register pay pal. Qr codes or the safe and easy way to get paid in store and they deliver the same security and trust pay pal is known for online in person. Even if you're a cash only business with pay pal. Qr codes you can accept credit or debit with everyday low fees. there's no additional hardware or software needed generate your unique qr code from the pal app and display it on your device or print it to display in store customers. Scan your code with their pay pal app. You only need your smartphone. Learn more at paypal dot com slash. Us slash get qr code. I'm really struck by your story. And i'll tell you why because people who've you know me know that two thousand and eight with such a a crucible moment in my life i had been working on wall street. I thought you know this is the right path in. It's the best path. And i'm going to do really well and of course. My employer edgy was nationalized by stock. Fell ninety seven percent. And i realized like whoa. The world is really risky. Like i work in for a company. That's one of the largest companies in the world overnight. Gone and so what so insane to hear you say. Is that in your own life. Two thousand eight had its own sort of role in provoking you to diversify and so it's it is all about diversification vacation and that's what i love about your story and i think also cool about about what you do. Is you know you have diversified yourself in the world of arts and you you've got involved in politics but you know many people may not know about you you know you also went off and studied columbia and you and you're like very active in managing and investing the money. You've been able to save as an actress. So i think for a lot of people they don't realize necessarily when they think about people in the creative world they think. Okay you're doing. You're an actor and then you hire a money manager and you know that's it right and i just watched the britney spears documentary where her you know. She has all this money being managed by other people. You you've not chosen that path you've chosen to take a more active role so talk about how you've actually built out this kind of this disinvesting side of the things you do. Yes so my father was always telling me growing up at. I needed to make my money worked for me. Having seen all the riskiness of my business and having been blessed with success it was my job to leverage that success that financial success. In every way that i could to again protect myself against a rainy day and to allow myself to be able to do all these other things that i wanted to do so that i could make i know you wrote a book called the ten percent entrepreneur so that i could make actual equity investments in things that i was passionate about so i guess around. College was when i turned. Listen to dad for tony. Leasing parents all of my money and who made my money worked for me. Even when i didn't know it was happening but then around college they started bringing more into the process. Not because they didn't want to you before. My dad always had me at every meeting. But just because i wasn't interested before and i remember being at columbia and i remember dating some people honestly who were investment cloths who were in investment clubs at columbia very interested in investing and i would see some of the research that they were reading and i thought why should i be doing. This should be reading the research. I should be active and my dad says to me. Now i've been telling you this for years. But but i decided to get active and so i sat down with my financial adviser and we looked at how to diversify my finances in the same way that i had to versus my career and i got very passionate about and very interested in reading about companies. How they were going to dance. Different causes what the Ethical policies of different companies were. I i just. I don't know. I had an affinity for it that i never thought i would but that i have continued to Use throughout the years to make my success grow. And as a result of that i've been able to develop any p. I'm by myself. That i have financed myself. I've been able to develop other projects that i might not have been able to without the resources To do so. So it's been a very fruitful endeavor for me. It's fantastic and i think what's great about it is people have stereotypes about about people in the arts. That like they're capable of thinking like this is people in fact you've proven wrong. I'm curious as you educated yourself because you came in and a little later than some people might and you didn't go to work on wall street or you know you you hadn't done those things How what were the most valuable. You know people listening. Perhaps and say they want to do that. To what were the most valuable things you did to learn how to make smart investments. No one knows anything okay. I'm back for me like that. Apple world is sort of elusive right. People don't think that they should invest because they're scared that they don't have access to the right resources or they're scared they're going to lose their money. Investment which is totally valid concerns. That happens often But the reality is if you watch Videos on investing. If you re books. One book that i really liked was called stocks for the long run witch Basically discusses how while stocks go up and down in the short term of the long term generally. Go up don't take my word for it. That's just a trend. Who knows if it will continue to be the case but the point is no one can predict anything. The markets are irrational people. Try to do it but things always change and as a result of that while you could say that scary. It's also comforting. Because that means that one person's information is not any different from my information is not any different from someone else's people know how to play the game better than other people do as a result of that you know. They're successful as financial advisers. But that's sort of idea that some people understand the market and other people don't is false because the market is irrational. So for me. What i've been doing is just cost averaging So i buy a little bit all the time methodically. It doesn't matter if the market is up or down that means that the market is down. I'm getting stock that means when the market is up i'm getting soft and overtime i've seen that lead to a good return But i think i had to. I understand that no one. Has you know the golden ball. With all the information in it to get over the fear of getting into the market and starting to learn about different types of investments that i could be making started small. I think this the cost. Averaging is a really good point sometimes when we think about investing even if you're starting with a little bit of money and one of the things that's great about some of the new Some of the new apps and companies out there they're allowing people to start investing with small amounts of money just to try it. Put a toe in the water and see what you think. And then he goes up and so you know you didn't go out on day one and put all your money into some you know penny stock. Of course you start slow and maybe over time as you get some gains. It's kind of like going to the casino on that guy. Who when i when. I make money by like five bucks but i put the money and then when i get up like twenty bucks i take ten off and i put it in my pocket and so i'm constantly pulling money out so that i have my little reserve that i can play with and maybe i'll bet on on roulette or something crazy like that and so you know i think for anybody who wants to accessibly get into investing starting small learning recognizing that stock stock. Picking is something where you'll learn as you go along and you need to do the work and also surround yourself with people who have some experience they can help you out makes a lot of sense now. Sammy i will say i. I'll say my financial adviser. He always jokes with me. Because i'll talk to him for an hour about a company. And then i'll say let's by three shares of a company that that's you know like twenty dollars a share something but you know what that is the way right one other tip i will reject in. Here is i love to buy companies in very small quantities. Just i see them in my account every day right just so that when i read reports and when i read research i'm looking out for the letters of the name of the company and as i read research i'll build up the physician over time over months over years. This is not something that i do immediately. But it's been fruitful for me to do it that way People make fun of me because when you look at the return as a result of that type of investment it's good in also as you say you don't put a large amount of your money into the stock market editor or any one thing at all you have to diversify so. I like that a lot. I've never heard that before. But it's sort of like book marking is ready doing meeting your book marking stuff to come back to a later and the thing is if you don't like investing by way i don't love public mark. Investing i give my money to somebody they invested in me. I buy things are in there. But i do put on my calendar every week. A reminder to think about these issues. So that i just we were once a week. I'm reminded like you should be thinking about your investments because otherwise you know i'm happy and doing a thousand things i'm not going to remember and so it's important to like just be a little little thoughtful about making sure that this is important right getting your money to work for. Your dad is so right especially to give my career. You have a job at the next day. You might not have a job and you might not have a job for the next ten years though if you're in a luxurious enough position to have some money in a very volatile career path. It's your job. I think to make that work for you into also be able to give back to others so much of what i do is i says is philanthropy. How can i make the world a better place. I've been given the platform this opportunity. I better do something good with it. It's not about making money just for myself. You taking back at qualcomm. We believe in staying connected and you can see us wherever five g is helping transform telemedicine supporting remote education empowering mobile. Pc's the invention ages here. Learn more at qualcomm dot com slash invention age. Now you just matching platform which i h thinking about you in my research. I do my research i. I was checking on your instagram and you only started instagram in two thousand nineteen last year. Yeah which is which is which is really interesting. And i can't imagine because you didn't know about instagram. You made a choice. I knew i knew so. You made a choice not to do it and then you made a choice to do it so tell us about that. I just never been a social media person. I live a very private life aside from the public nature of my job. I've also unfortunately the outlive a lot of stock or situations that have made me a pretty averse to social media. However i do think that we are in a moment where celebrities have platforms through which they can achieve a lot of good Through which they can bring people together in support of amusing causes. I'm just by using the internet right. We no longer a half to reach people by knocking on doors. Not that that's what we do in political endeavors not necessarily celebrities But we can outreach. Deepal to rally troops toward break causes Via social media via something. So easy. And i think that's really why i joined I wanted to use my voice to make an impact to actuate social change to raise awareness about my brother's campaign. Because i was so passionate about the work he was doing Extending access to voting in south florida and that was a great way to do that. So that's really why i joined now. I love to use the platform to enhance my fans sense of community both with me and also with each other. I love to talk to the amazing people who are responsible for my career. My career relies on viewership relies on people who watch every single week and social media to me is the way that i can do a tiny that to say. Thank you a tiny bet to get back to them now. You're going to stay just an instagram. Are you tempted to join all the clubhouse and the talks and all because it's an arms race i got an invite clubhouse and i haven't joined it yet because i don't know anything about it but i was gonna watch a saw. There was a webinar. Through my my agency that i can learn more about clubhouse through but i do twitter. I've had twitter for many years. I haven't been using it too often. I think one platform is way more than i can handle. I agree listen. We can talk about clubhouse i i don't want to get into it now but i've been gobbling a little bit in it and the problem is it's like okay. You spend all this time on one thing and then it's like all right then. Tiktok comes around. You're like well the supposed to do that. Like and that's a whole thing and then then clubhouse comes around and so that you could literally spend your life building followings on social media and it would be very tiring and but then see. I had a friend in new york. Walter masterson his name. He's become this huge tiktok guy out of nowhere. He makes these really amazing videos and in the space like during the last year he went from. He's an actor. He was an actor working actor to actually being like a guy who people know and has a platform. It's all political stuff so you see that. And you're like well. Maybe i could do that on clubhouse in maybe i should sign up and then all of a sudden eight hours later. You've asked sixteen people to do clubhouses with you. So he can get out of control a little bit so learn about different businesses on news social gaps as long. I've really enjoyed getting to support those two so semi. I want to ask you. You know you. You've done a lot of things you have found that you enjoy the business world but you're also an actor and you've created some movies and so you're you're in that world as well so let's fast forward ten years now. Are you gonna be running your own. Asset management company. Or a in showbiz. What do you. I mean what do you want to do. And what are the choices that you think you'll make get there. That's a very loaded question again. I will say the most important thing to me is that i am using my platform to evacuate social change and make a difference in the community is that i am a part. I have lately been very focused on building a production company with my brother my brother rights and i co produce and act in the movies and those movies are concentrated on amplifying voices at what otherwise. Go on hurt. I think that is what i am most passionate about doing in the future. I want to continue to actor. But i also want to continue to produce content. That mean something to me. I think the easiest way to do that especially with a brother who is such a talented writer is to produce the content myself to become a content creator. Ten years down the line. I would love to produce other people's projects to act in other people's projects and to branch out our business that we are producing documentaries documentaries so that we are producing things even like fashion lines that all align with our mission. sal. I think ten years down the line. Hopefully we will be helping other people represent underrepresented stories in whatever ways they find most fitting for them as i. I really think the people get to stock in doing one thing and using one route in order to evacuate the type of impact that they wanna have. And i think that there are just so many you know on the one hand you have used film to change how we view an issue in the world and on another hand you know you could run for office and start making laws to affectionately that change. I think they're both equally valid paths equally impactful paths and at the same person can can do. The mom and i watched my brother. Do i right. Like my brother's gonna probably ran for office again. Someday when the right thing comes along And he's also an attorney and he's also the screenwriter and he's thriving at all of it so again like this pandemic has shown us how fragile life is. Let's make the most lubbock all the slashes about all. I still the one other thing i will say. I am really passionate about continuing the work that i was doing with my brother to Expand voter education and to expand access to voting. Not just in florida but nationwide on. And i really hope that in the next ten years i will also be able to put together a less temporary coalition of people to continue to do that work. You don't just have to do one thing you just have to think carefully before you decided to do Everybody you're gonna watch space. 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Ep. 240: The Color of the Year, Spring Trends & The Weeks Beauty News

Fat Mascara

37:39 min | 10 months ago

Ep. 240: The Color of the Year, Spring Trends & The Weeks Beauty News

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Sweet. Jesus. It was I was so happy to get away. Weren't you? He had just I know I I love the city because I can escape the city when I need to truly I needed a frigging escape I needed escape I had not been away on overnight from the city since I was at Mount Sinai giving birth. Little. Lake needed to see that there were other places in the world besides your apartment in. Manhattan. We had that we hadn't lessons pandemic and yeah. It was it. I felt like I was a fish like like another fish like I felt like I was like pushed underwater come from air and it was like this was like. Like as soon as like we were outside, it was so fantastic. You're rolling in style girl is let's do a quick little recap of where Janai were. So if you don't follow us on Instagram, please on Instagram Patmos is very on brand by the way I went up the mountains and I camped outdoors the entire time with bugs and things. And the lugs The you role we rolled out. We've rolled that rolled out out east as they say, we went to the hamptons rented a really cute airbnb. which by the way, the weirdest thing in the world, the woman who rented the AIRBNB from we discovered after we checked out texting. She's so awesome. This woman she actually used to work in Harper's bazaar. Isn't that the thing it was a very weird like Schmidt his thing yeah it was issue. So lovely anyway She was like the best airbnb has ever anyway. I was. One of the perks of working in this crazy bid is is we were loaned infinity. If you follow I had I guarantee car. Graham it was a really really has cited not gifted Hashtag. I'm not. This is not a new fragrance. Rolled Infiniti q x eighty big fad like family car, which was amazing because traveling with an infant, not only required entire day off of work just to pack for the trip. So I was able to jam the entire contents of our home like the pack and play the frigging Dr Todd the love every person out there. That's a parent who is not in Manhattan is like, yeah that's just how it works Jeff. Finding our doorman was like sauce like like like sweating like. downstate like forty, five trips in his Yup. Yup. That's that's how that's how it is. So packed everything to begin vanity. A it was amazing. But when the we picked up the car, I just didn't know what to picture I knew it was all a big awesome car. It was the most gorgeous Bordeaux color which like the talk about. I have putting out some energy for JOE is my caller for fall. Carmont as might have been like you guys the drive train is amazing and justice like it was a beautiful him. Now it was the most beautiful color. So Carta, Mama's my sense for fall okay. Okay This is like my candle. yes. I have a Bordeaux diaper bag. I have aboard Oh per. This was the color we rolled around. We had the most amazing time I watched emily. In Paris we're going to discuss that later this future episode, Genitalia offline about I got to watch. Emily Harris got to spend time with my baby without thinking Oh got twenty minutes i. have another call take the baby. To have this uninterrupted time to watch her laugh and smile saw some friends. So my cousin, it was just great. It was amazing. It was amazing. I'm here for you for the I do have to say one of our topics this episode we can get into some seasonal colors but we go on. The Pan tone color of the year. Clearly, we have thoughts Leila. We'll just we'll jamming on about myself. What about your? What about you're talking about? Like my own stuff we would own he's not talking about like you're like a trauma. On Stuff On, stuff I I just. Classic Channel Like let's Segue to the topic I. Know I'm going to tell me about your camping trip. Go camping like every other weekend though like we did beautiful fall hike the full ours was changing like saying fully ashes fully out. there's lots of boredeaux tone was great. It was beautiful against Jenkins. So shy I I asked her simple question like how was your weekend? She's like. On the agenda. I. Wasn't me discussed I am a sex people all right back in my science corner now. Okay. Okay. Okay. Anyway. podcasters something. Okay. Well, some of those podcasts we will just get on and talk about themselves nonstop. I just can't. That's why I'm saying now. Okay. So let's why we're all here Jessica Madelyn to hear about beauty not to hear about me. Yeah, we WANNA talk about colors, panton color of the year. Okay. Lots of beauty news to catch up on Amer GonNA raise the wands I'm. I have my my thing right here. I'm so excited to tell you but my research. Do, and it's so good to be back with our listeners. Let's do it. How's that has? That sounds like an elevator has. The next like dramatic actions going to happen like Oh. That's like the curb your enthusiasm like thump thump thump. Looking deeper into someone's is. David got married again let this this week off the beauty news by Larry David I married. I had a shot. All right. Okay. What I really want to talk about. So beat news fashion month, it's wrapped and while. That was weird Makali'i. Talk about our careers as little baby beauty reporter. Scurrying around to shows everywhere, I've been to Paris to go to fashion shows and report beauty trends backstage we. Over the last four years, we've talked about how much this whole thing has morphed into something completely brand new but no one ever saw twenty twenty, one ring fashion shows coming. It was like some shows were sort of proceeding as normal like a couple in Milan and Paris where like there was a runway but others were cut out dolls that like literally I was like I pictured them. Dancing like there was a puppet like there was a puppeteer Mary looking show like I. Love how creative everybody got but it made my job and our job of sort of predicting the beauty trends quite marred. However, I gave them all a good luck because I wanted to report back to you. I do have to say Pat Mother Pat. We love you show. She was able to work Sanad. Come on the show Khloe parish. She did like a very smokey I and in general as predicted I think you and I have called this lots and lots of eye makeup I. Oh yeah. For the foreseeable future, we are going to be playing with Ice Shadows Jesse. You Got New Elf glitter. I've been doing more eyeliner is because we're all wearing the masks. So there was like cool I looks at Vivienne Westwood Giambattista, Valli You know I feel weird about predicting a trend in general, but the is had it and I think that's what it's going to be into. We all get to take off the damn masks. A moving on I, don't know if you've heard here in the United States a presidential election. Cool. So that's news but I have to have to give a shout out to make up artist. Lillian. Brown, when I tell you about this woman's life I, think everybody's to go and get more details about to give you. But makeup artist Lee Brown she passed away. I was maybe two weeks ago at this point one hundred, she was more than one hundred years old this woman did make up for nine US presidents. Did He do, Y- do both parties like poverty and there was a time when we all got along the same person holidays. Crafts, they would use the same makeup artists. That is beautiful. She did the makeup for. Nick. Zain. Like when he was doing his resignation filming video, she was the woman that powdered his, no, our tears and stuff. But she was more than make her life's actually quite amazing. She's written books on public speaking. She worked all the way up until on Clinton and what a freaking life and she was just one of those people who wasn't like about the glamour of makeup. She was about making people look like themselves. That's amazing. gifted bright I want someone to do like a Docu series on her listen. If we were a super-rich podcast, I would fund that Shit brought to my ass, carry the story of Lillian Brown I'm just saying she must have so much insight into who these people really were. You know like she must be there in their darkest most anxious their most real moments like right before you go. On television to talk to an entire nation about something very serious. She's the one in your face. Calming. Your nerves empowering because that's what makeup artists do. They're not just making you look good. They're like the people that make you feel good right before you go out into the world anyway what a life and I just wanted to pay a little bit of tribute to to her that's awesome. Okay next up oh. This is interesting. I'm so excited I'm excited to get to talk about this but so my sister-in-law McColl she works for the US Labor Department. She told me about this a couple of weeks ago. Part of her job is finding out what is going around and around the world as far as like child labor convict. Labour. Making sure the United Series not involved in anything like that. She had found out that a lot. Of Hair and hair extensions and wigs being banned as imports in the United States because of badly were practices. So here's what's going on the US has banned imports of hair weaves wigs, and extensions from Western. China. Because it's believed that these are being made in forced labour camps among by leaguers, which are the Muslim minority group from western China. You've probably been hearing about this this there's lots going on. So of course of genocide. Port but of course, there's politicizing about this like are they are aren't they forced labor but I will tell you should go online and Google this. If you by hair by extensions have a wig have weaves make your own I know a lot of women with. Weaves, also tend to buy like a you know you buy a new one every couple months make sure you know where you're coming from and some have been banned. So if you've been having trouble getting your hair, this might be the reason but I, think it's a good reason that is not available to you right now because of you know you. Don't want to be buying anything with forced labor. So That's interesting and we will put a link on an our blog so you can read more about thank you for sharing that news. This whole situation over there is absolutely gut wrenching it is crazy and I also felt very cool because like I felt like I have a primary source as we have. I'm not reporting this. I heard this from literally the US Labor Department you must have such interesting conversations with her interesting but also kind of disturbing. Because she listened to the podcast that like her world and my world overlapped and. We were like, yeah it's Kinda. Cool. Okay. Let's go to the science corner and it's GonNa your happy place your. Yeah let's not talk about me. Let's talk about the science corner. Okay, just upfront I'm GonNa say we need to have an expert on to dig into this more. But California is the first state here in the United States to ban additional chemicals from cosmetics. I know you've heard this stat million times do us currently bans? Types of ingredients from cosmetics and the EU bans over a thousand can be misleading. It's used a lot natural circles to be like Oh my God can you believe there's you know nine hundred something chemicals that we're not banning. But a lot of those things are ingredients that you would never ever put in cosmetic anyway like mercury or things that are clearly harmful. So like take that with a grain of salt however science evolves and as it comes around particular chemicals are found to be carcinogenic endocrine-disrupting or have hormonal effects. So now there's a new list of ingredients. The California only will be banning with their cosmetic fragrance and flavor ingredient right to know act of twenty twenty. So I took a look at the list because I was like Oh. Wow. Like are these in a lot of products that now we're not gonNA, be able to buy. If you live in California most of them are Formaldehyde, formaldehyde leasers or ingredients that if mixed with formaldehyde would re release formaldehyde gas kinds of things you'll find in really strong hair straight salon strength products, old-school nail polishes I mean how many years have they been every that my grandma used? Yeah found Sean I had that like conical top like a triangle top rail like register. There was a think it was one of the phthalates that was in that that was like a known to be a I, forget what the I I don't have the details and what was in that one. But truly if you're able to buy that nail Polish, good luck to you, I don't know where you found it in the back of some dusty thing 'cause a lot of these are not in a lot of products. However, there was one ingredient and so I just wanted to name this one it was. A quadrennium fifteen that was of the list one that I found in quite a few products abandoned the EU winning combination with Formaldehyde 'cause it could sort of make the product release more formaldehyde that's not how it seems to be banned in California. So if anything has that it's going to have to be reformulated and you can find some stuff that shampoos makeup remover. So I'm not saying if you turn over label and you see quad fifteen holy shit, it's going to give you. It's going to give you cancer that is not at all. In fact, it can have our allergic reactions, but it is not carcinogenic unless it's in combination with other ingredients. But still this is like things are evolving here in the United States. So we'll put a link, the list of the ingredients that are going to be banned in California. I, wouldn't be surprised if we start to see legislation pop up and other states, and then also maybe at the national level, we know there's legislation been sitting there for years you know on how to overhaul this whole process who's to say if that's going to happen but here comes California doing it for themselves so. Good on them and Topamax all of our products. Happy Healthy. You know all the good stuff and that was my science corner I. Hope I didn't screw it up because I probably pronounced quad fifteen wrong jeff thanks just as husband don't yell at me. Hey guys were talking about SC pricing is a quick dry nail Polish, and if you painted your nails with Seo Express right now who would be done by the time this ad is over. That's right this Polish for easy self application in one simple step and it dries in about a minute and you know I'm such a Klutz with painting. 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It's just in the air I feel like every other conversation I have with my friends is about hormones, fertility eggs, egg freezing can I have a baby? I? Don't want to have a baby. When should I have a baby? Do I really want to be and I feel like I just keep talking about modern fertility because I feel like everybody needs access to this thank God modern fertility was free. It is the easy affordable way to test your. That with just a simple finger prick. All you do is melody with a new label and you'll get your personalized results within ten days that is power. So traditional testing with your doctor that can cost over a thousand dollars but modern the only group fifty nine and you're GonNa get the same information and if you modern dot Com such that miscarriage unit twenty dollars per test, but we do with an extra twenty dollars. You're going to get insight to how many eggs you had hormone levels and any other reproductive red flags and also indepth into what every means, and you can even talk one on one with the until I review results at options for next steps I loved that right now modern fertility is offering our listeners twenty dollars off the test. When you go to modern fertility, dot com slash fat Mascara that means you're test will cost one, hundred, thirty, nine dollars instead of the hundreds or thousands it could cost at a doctor's office get twenty dollars off your fertility test. When you go modern artillery, dot com slash fat Mascara that's modern fertility dot com slash fat Mascara. Hey. John. I heard about pan tones new color. Yeah. I felt a little Linford prude. Okay. So why don't you share Pantheon's twenty twenty one color of the year is. Period read. So many thoughts. So. Many thoughts I really felt. What I felt a little bit like I was back at Teen Vogue. So when I was beauty director at Teen Vogue, we did a lot of this. This is when teen vogue turned. From being like the teen vogue that was really about like you know Mike Cute Room with. Compton. Yeah. Like like like high fashion for young girls to the woke teen vogue that is today and it was a really cool time to be. There is a really important time to be there. But we did a lot about like menstrual awareness normally proud of the work that we did there but it was very much like. A Very purposeful it to that kind of lake. Yeah. Content. But had very positive was, not, something easily talked about writers ago exactly. Yes. So I guess now it's sort of like trickled down and I don't mean that in like a negative way the trickle down not like knows become trickled up to the wider yes, exactly. Yeah. So for me, it was a little bit like a like Oh we're doing this still doing this So yeah. I. Yeah. First of all, I should say pan tone I, don't know if you guys know that's like the color authority, thank paint swatches since two thousand every year they be doing a pan tone color of the year that leans like every year of justice in my career like their color will come out and beauty editors are all over it because like then you see it trending and makeup products or used to, and it's supposed to say something about the wider world and so here we are with period read my first thought though before I get into like. I feel like we have the privilege to talk period positive in the united season I understand that globally it's not the case. Any other still taxes on period accessories are unnecessary but is this the place to have that political conversation or not? Even political? Is this the place to have that conversation what I keep going back you like you mean, you mean like you don't know of this is going to move the needle like if this is going to move the needle, is it like it's a color of the year? It's like a trendy marketing. I get it be they tried to do this once before I think in like twenty eighteen or nineteen, they picked both pink and blue, and it was a way to have a discussion about the gender Byron. Very. I thought that was very cool to. On then I get mad at myself because I'm a glisten, you WanNa like have these discussions however, you can have them but pantalone who needs to be leading off this discussion. It feels weird. I. I commend what they're doing because first of all, they partnered with Swedish Bass brand called. Otherwise this word. In two main intimate, and of course, Swedish because they have less like hangups about all this stuff To create this. Campaign called the seen and heard campaign. It's about breaking down taboos surrounding menstruation, which by the way I think you and I are two women who work in media we live in New York City for us it's like you know I feel like just think back to two minutes ago on Mike I. Feel Like I've done this before sounds a little like because we have the privilege to. That's Old News, right? So I do think that there is a lot of people who this is just like this is fresh to them. So if if pan tone is getting in the party, I think. Great more merrier but I so I, I agree with you in some ways because like it's like, okay I was to move the needle. This conversation may be it should be. Sunday like something Kotex or some by something like. I'm sure brands like Adidas and Nike have done things like this. But like a brand like that to to get on this conversation not something that is so like to be Pantheon or most people don't know what Pantheon is but I do. Feel like. The fact that I was kind of like I did a double take I wonder what the average Jane is going to think like are they were Joe? I thought also 'cause he's trying to get people who don't menstruate in the enormous gushing yeah. Because if you menstruate of course, you're going to have a more open attitude towards like this need not be something we keep in the closet and don't talk about. Can I? Thought when I saw. Yeah I'm sorry that is not the color like it's like a bright bright red it's like I it. Just it felt weird and it made me think about periods in like a very. Like visceral like descriptive way I guess that's what they're going for because they're supposed to have shock value but like I don't know here, we are talking about it. So clearly maybe now it's clearly it's working I would I would love to see. The always in the Kotex just see like what they are gonNA have they're going to pick up on this. Like. You know that I always talk about like the dubs in that access. We always talk about this on like if you want this is the thing about the pantheon color. They do it across industries so they don't just want you know ministration care products to be talking about this. I'm guessing they want a nail Polish to come out. What's that color you're wearing? It's ready Oh. Why is it called period read? Well, because a lot of girls in the world or mystery in the world don't have access to tampons or pads, and because it's ties in a lot of cultures and so but like are you gonna put that on a person to then have to have that conversation just because of that I don't know it feels like a right to do it right? Like our right is the buyer for you know. Brand luxury brand X. or you know came going to. Want to my face was Marsala 'cause I think I was at married Clare. Marcello. Like. Sort of like a Brownie red wine story and like it was kind of fluffy and didn't really mean anything but it was a beautiful color that was trendy that season it was very like you know Seventies Lahia yeah, and it's like. I guess we don't have the freedom anymore to just be like, Oh, it's a pretty color. It has to have like a connotation of like a statement making something behind it kind of everything right now though isn't it right is an I get annoyed every now and then and then I get annoyed at myself forgetting annoyed but some. Need no I just want like a freedom of a place where I can have like just be free of having to have deep thoughts sometimes does that sound horrible? Horrible saying no no no. You don't sound horrible Jen I mean we've got some feedback about like you know. They like the podcast because they just WanNa. Hear about beauty for a little bit I. Mean Look at people watching Emily Harris like crazy. You know it's number one on Netflix now 'cause it's this frothy. rivulets beautiful I kind of travelogue show. There's there's a moment or two of people talk about meet you but it's It's just really silly and go. So I don't think you're wrong for thinking like Oh. You know does it have to be like this but I do think I mean you and I really excited to talk about this item because it's a really interesting. Thing that Pantheon's doing whether or not we're like it is but I'm sitting here and this is the hard thing about having a podcast because the minute I get start giving my opinion start worrying that I'm alienating our listeners out there who come to us because they want to hear about beauty and they don't want to have to bring other conversations into their conversation but then I feel guilty that I'm not doing that because we have a platform and we're talking about beauty this is something important to all people who menstruate like there. It's kind of like. The. Just like sometimes I just don't want to have to think about serious stuff. You know it's a shows a mix bag. So if we go, it goes. It's way of. So guys if you like where we're going, let us know you don't like where we're going. Let us know just know that the show is in evolution and I'm sure some of you are struggling with some of these thoughts to. I hope so. Yeah and I'll talk about blow drying my hair next week I swear. Let us know what you think of the Pan tone color. We're GONNA put it up on her instagram stories and see what you guys think. Okay, it's time to raise the wines and we've got a good one from Melissa, takeaway? Away. Meg. Just Jen my name is MAG and I'm from South Strategy and I really love the podcast and Fatman scar blog huge fan I would like to raise a ones to lush our JOE's and in particular the Rose Jan and honey. I, washed the kids shower gills on the skin of my body is really dry and if I'm honest I'm really just too lazy to put body Lotion on after every shower even though I probably should. But whenever use a Gel from lush my skin just feels really soft and hydrated and just lovely Oday. The race jammed fragrance I. didn't think I would like I'm not really into Floros, but it's really sweet and lingering, but it's not at all powering and I love using it at night whereas honey I wish the kids Israeli woman up lifting replace has that related nice honey smell I relent using it in the morning. All. Of the last show jobs they really can creamy and they leather up beautifully. A little bit goes a really long way. So I find I can buy a bottle of shower. Gel lost me months S- again. I just wanted to give show Joe's shadow. Hope you're having a wonderful day. By. Okay. Meg from Australia, thanks for calling in actually. What Jess you WanNa say something I have to interject why bag that rose gem shower gel is so good. I've tried that before and I was like I try to Minneapolis like I needed the big the big guy the big horn is delicious. It's it's not too rosy crazy. It's sweet. NEGET sue she does. Also didn't she so lovely crisp and clear that because she emailed us a voicemail to info at fat Mascara Dot Com. But also we love your voice mails you can call us the phone number is six, four, six, four, eight, one, eight, one, eight, two we will not pick up the phone. It's just a voicemail Fox. So go ahead and say. She's not going to campaign still about what I said about period earlier call me ran I'm not going to get on the middle and say like let's have a discussion I want to say though so six, four, six, four, eight, one, eight, twenty, two, aright. Let's raise our own wants shall we just WanNa you go first because you've been like all episode just see her keep picking up the putting it down what is it I am so excited about this. So the brand is called ONA. Ona Organic I. Don't I know it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was like pause because there's a little. Line over the show that I guess is. The, long? Oh. Yeah owner organics it's a hand sanitizer and you might be thinking why are you so excited about a hand sanitizer because it smells so spot I liked Alex smells that make you feel like you're at a fancy spa because I just like that kind of thing and then no one's going to fancy spa anytime soon at least not my world. It smells like on the. Cash. and. It's nice out. I, guess it's in a nice glass jar allies glass spray bottle I prefer the spray spritzers because they feel like they're less sticky and tacky on hand s right Dries very quickly vice flash off and you get a nice generous size amount. Here's the best part. It smells like Cedar, Valley, Mayor, and Lang Lang because all of the organic oils are in there. When I was younger I used to go to New Hampshire every summer with my family we rented the slight little like. In the whole. All smelled like Cedar because the whole Condo was made out of Cedar, it was a ski on ski renting summer and it takes me back instant sent. Like those closets. Closet everything was seated would go to the Outer Banks of North Carolina Cedar. Right. So I feel childhood like Transportation here and you might be thinking this is going to be very expensive. This is very luxurious that glass bottles recyclable glass bottle. Yeah it's ten dollars. Yes. That's not only nine from Dwayne Reed but you get a nice amount and the Smith this feels like far more expensive than what that's like really not a tiny tiny bottle either it's a big bottle last longtime. Fall to those. Yeah. Yeah it'll go with your. Mom, so I like. A won't. Your candle that you have going candle contrast will go nicely with that and it feels like really kind of soothing. It does feel like a minute to yourself. So Omo organics, ten dollars hand sanitizer with the end, right? Oh. Not Not yet. We'll put a link on the blog. Yeah. When you have, when do you want that now but I'm raising a one to a foundation, it cosmetics your skin but better foundation or just up to talk sorry I tried really hard not to do that. But I am sure I like this. I'm not asking if I like it I do. It has a serum light quality. It's a very thin foundation so you could put a veil on and it's like the name says it your skin but better. But the reason I like this a lot is I put a veil on Raven having still somehow the redness came on my chin of it's a weather whatever I need to go back on that probiotic thing you know early in my routine but. So then you let it set and you can put two coats on and get more coverage but you don't feel like you're wearing a frequent raincoat on face right when you wear a medium or full cover foundation and you just like, I, feel it I feel they're like the whole thing just feels like a raincoat on it. Yeah. Is GonNa now here and usually with the sheer ones, the color ranges in. Great because I'd like Oh, your skin shows through. So we only need to have like ten shades believe it comes in forty shades holy cow what right so it's sheer I but like you still cover stuff but then if you want to build, you can build without feeling like you have a bazillion thing sitting on your face. You know I've been cosmetics fans back in the day. I. Think they do such? A nice job formulating skincare skin products you makeup face. Yeah. Sure. I'm not saying you know what? I'm trying to say yeah. Face to face category the face category, and so this is a good one. 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Inside Emily Harrington's Triumph on El Capitan

Outside Podcast

31:42 min | 8 months ago

Inside Emily Harrington's Triumph on El Capitan

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Learn more about how to plan the getaway you need this winter at vermont vacation dot com from outside magazine. Npr x this is the outside. Podcast genuinely afraid. Every first day of the season. In somebody i can't wrap my head around the exposure of three thousand feet under my feet until i'm actually doing it so every time i go back it's like really new and it's really intimidating and it's really scary and like every season i essentially have that feeling of terror serious or used to digging deep but there's pushing yourself and then there's what emily harris dead on november fourth of this year. That's when she became the first woman and the fourth person ever to free. Climb the golden gate route up yosemite el capitan in a single day. It was one of those moments in the sport that captured the world's attention climber. Emily harrington has reached the peak of success scaling seventies treacherous el capitan free climbing. The golden gate is an insanely challenging way to ascend. Thirty two hundred feet of climbing straight up using only your hands and feet and emily had failed or than once before in her attempt to climb the whole thing in a single day. Two thousand nine hundred nineteen. She took a fifty foot fall under that sent her to the hospital strapped to back. During this year's climb she was just a few hundred feet from the top when she took another baffle smashing her head into the granite with a hole in her forehead and blood pouring down her face. She had to decide whether she could finish the clock. Especially since the last few pitches are the hardest bar outside contributor stephanie. Joyce caught up with emily while she was in southern utah this month helping support her fiance. The mount everest guide adrian ballinger as he attempted to climb his hardest ever sport. You'll hear him in the background packing up for their long drive home to lake tahoe while. Emily talks to stephanie about why she still terrified at the beginning of every yosemite season. And how believe that. She had failed again on the golden gate route. This time is what actually allowed her to get to the top. Emily was twelve the first time she saw l. cab. She was already serious climber at that point but she didn't look at the rock face and think i'm gonna climb that someday i grew up in colorado but i when i first started climbing competition climber so i just grew up. Climbing gym doing competitions and that was sort of my understanding of what climbing was and a win to a my. I like competition. That i actually traveled for was in san francisco. Just remember my dad was like whoa. Whoa we're close to yosemite we have to go to yosemite like we have to just see it after the dafur the comp. We got up really early and me and my dad and my climbing coach at the time and we drove to yosemite and I remember seeing First time then it was so big. It was so overwhelming was so impossible to think about climbing it like that was not in my head. All my aspirations were solely rooted in like competitions and. Emily did really well in competition to the national sport climbing champion five times as a teen early twenties. She burnt out. She was studying international law in college and she thought about giving up on climbing entirely then she got a call from the north face. They offered her a spot on their team of sponsored athletes alongside famous mountaineers and big wall climbers in. Emily realized maybe it was time to look outside the jam. She started trad climbing. Which involves the clamor policing. All of their own geared. Stop a fall and she started attempting big wall projects. That would eventually prepare her for al capp. I basically had to become a beginner again in this sport that i thought i was elite like i thought i knew what it was all about and then when i started tried climbing and when i started big wall climbing is absolutely terrified and and so that process for me was years and years and years. Emily was twenty seven the first time she actually tried climbing el cap. She was living in san francisco at the time with her childhood. Best friend the climber beth rotten. Beth was pregnant and not climbing. But emily and beth's husband randy perot decided to try the first part of one of the easier routes on el cab took us like a neither of us knew what we're doing we're both terrified bottom like super pregnant texting us kind of like telling us where to go. I just remember like being really overwhelmed but at the same time like pretty inspired by the whole thing and like inspired by bath and like her sort of like confidence in us. Coming on cap is like so different the coming everywhere else. It's incredibly slippery and knew what we were doing enough to be safe but at the same time we definitely felt out of our element so that was that was your first time climbing out and you decided to come back after that yet. I came back a year later. The next year i decided i wanted to try to free. Climb el cap route on el cap. That was in twenty fifteen year of their like really bad earthquake in nepal and adrian was on everest at the time but ended up coming home early because of the earthquake and when he got home he was like pretty bombed and like kinda need a an adventure in he offered to like. Try to me on l. cap and so we went up. There went up the golden gate and he blade me took six days and i ended up free climbing. It fairly just absolutely barely by the skin of my teeth. So it's clear free. Climbing and free soloing are two very different things. Free soloing is what alex. honolulu is. One of emily's climbing partners made famous the practice of climbing without ropes for protection. Emily free climbs which means she sends the wall using only her hands and feet but she uses ropes for safety in case of a fall. People who don't clai don't really understand the difference between free climbing and free soloing here very different. They're very different It's really hard. I think as a climbing community. We need to like change the term pennsylvania. The movie free sellers ruined everything. Everyone thinks you're up there without ropes hanging off the side ever went without ropes. And it's It's very hard and very confusing for people after that. Sixty climb twenty fifteen. Emily's started bank about attempting a single day free. Climb al cab. But at the time she was eyeing a route called free rider which is a lot easier than golden gate. It's also a shorter route and most people who free by mail cap and a day There's about maybe twenty or twenty five people ever throughout history who've done it The majority of them have done the free writer. So it just seemed like a natural thing for me to try And then the next year. Alex free solo dead and i. I started thinking more about like how. I wanted to progress in my climbing. And i wanted. I wanted this. Really tangible example of progression. And i knew that the golden gate would be a significant step up from the rhetoric today because the climbing is is so much the climbing is just harder Kind of in. My head didn't necessarily know if i do it like i didn't think that it was totally possible for me. I didn't really have the skills or the fitness. The strength and i knew that i knew that i would become so much better by trying. And so that's why the golden gate you. You can afford to climb fulltime because you're a sponsored athlete when you're thinking about setting a goal like this for yourself when you're deciding on like what is your project do you think about how it's going to be marketed. Do you think about like oh like okay. Alex like free solo. that route. like it's not gonna be as impressive. I mean. That was definitely something that i thought of in my head. I was like oh man like free. It lake clear And it wasn't like. I don't think it was less of a marketing thing. It would still be an incredible achievement for me I think i was just less inspired by the idea of it. At the time. And in the end i was still really drawn to. The golden gate is still really drawn to the idea of it. And i felt like i had just barely sent that route. I wanted to do it in a better style. If that makes sense. Like i wanted to show myself that. I could climate better than i had that you mean you had just barely sent it in two thousand fifteen when you when you did it over the course of six days. Yeah exactly there. Maybe fifteen or twenty routes can be free. Climbed up al capp. Emily considers golden gate as in the middle difficulty. Wise but in the middle on l. cap is really really hard by basically any other standard in climbing routes are rated on an open ended the scale to gets very technical but the simple way to understand it is that the easiest climbs start at five one and the most difficult route ever climbed is a five fifteen. Golden gate has forty one pitches and five of them are rated five thirteen and all of them presented their own to me. There's downtime pitch that's five thirteen. That's like that's like a really unique Former climbing that you'd only really do on el cap. It was a slab. It was incredibly like a just like hard. If you're short Hard for me to reach the holds. I don't even. I couldn't even remember how i did it in twenty fifteen actually saga go up there and just stare at the whole. That'd be like this is impossible. But i knew it wasn't impossible because i've done it. And then there's a pitch called the move pitch. That's the pitch on the wall That i've spent two days trying to do in two thousand fifteen and And then there's two thirteen pitches bright one after the other at the very end and the the second one is called a five traverse. It's purely like a a sport. Climb like it's purely like something that i would be able to do super well and super easily like if it just started from the ground but after so much climbing it's the fatigue is so deep that it's it proves to be a really difficult pitch and a lot of people who tried to free. Climb the golden gate just over the many days and in a day many of them failed at that pitch and then edition dislike. The easier climbing is not easy. It's all physical. It all takes a certain level of efficiency that like if you're not officiant on easier climbing than you won't legit harder climbing into this attempt this year two free golden gate in a day was not your i try. Tell me about your first attempt in two thousand nineteen. This year was my fourth attempt. So i tried in the spring of twenty nineteen and failed and i came back in the fall. Two thousand nineteen i tried. I had a great attempt the first try of the fall. I actually failed on a five traverse. That's the last one the latin right before the yet. It was a heartbreaking failure like. I was so crushed But i had one more attempt in me for that season. So i tried again end of november last year and It was really cold. And i had a very unfortunate slip on the very first pitch of the root alex. Donald trying to simul climb. So i was. We're trying to move really fast. Over the first twelve hundred feet and was placing very little gear so very little protection in an attempt to like move faster and i slipped and fell and i felt like forty or fifty feet still don't really know a hit allege and full very serious like full concussion lost consciousness like pretty intense like fear of spinal injury had to get rescued wound up in hospital. It was very very scary. I think for everyone involved. But i ended up walking out of the hospital that night after many tests and i got lucky. Essentially no no no spinal injury just a few like big cuts and bruises and rope. Burn around my neck. Were the rope lake kind of caught me. Oddly enough And that was the end of my season in two thousand nineteen was that ended up in the hospital in fresno. Was that the biggest fall the you had taken in your career. Oh yeah by a long shot. I've experienced an accident like that before ever They think the form of climbing that. I practice ninety. Nine percent of the time is very safe and pretty low risk in for this this challenge. I was taking a significant significant -ly higher risk by having to move faster and by having to do something called simul climbing which is essentially when you move up the wall simultaneously with your partner in sort of like a magic like a caterpillar snaking. Its way up the wall each of you on one end of the rope And so you know for this challenge. I realized that. I did need to be a quite a bit faster and i needed to take more risk. And so that was yeah. That was my biggest biggest accident per sure but at the same time i knew how to prevent you know like i knew what i had done wrong. I just had taken it too. Far had been too comfortable on terrain. That was a little bit too difficult. And so i approached it very rationally. It was like okay. We'll next a place more gear and move a little bit slower. it sounds like the accident was pretty traumatic. Even though you walked away from it was their like of lingering hesitation from that. In any way. I spent the fall training. I spent the fall preparing climbing on the pitches mentally wrapping my mind around around it all again like i went back to the pichai fell on climate. Really slowly look really looked at it placed a lot of gear. Id super safely. And i have sort of like that myself. Take the baby steps like Go into the dip myself into the shallow end of the pool before i dove into the deep end again. I knew that that was who's gonna take that. And i was okay with it. I was okay with like taking those baby steps in trying to be a little bit kinder to myself about it like i was. I've been so so so terrified there. I've had moments where i was just like. I wanna stop doing this. Why am i doing this. This is horrible. This is awful. One time i doing. I'm so scared. And then i've had moments where. I'm just like trying as hard as i possibly can. Super run out two thousand feet off the ground not even worried about it at all and that the difference in heads faces so dramatic and i just i've proven it to myself and i think other people would be surprised at what they're capable of Mentally in terms of like adjusting to fear. We'll be back after the break at the top of the episode. We heard from adam white at ski vermont about how you can responsibly. Visit this winter. For passionate skiers and snowboarders the mountains of vermont offer the kinds of outdoor adventures that make for memorable experiences. I think we need this more than ever and the spirit of that really struck me on the chairlift of i'm back. I'm back at this place. That i love doing this thing that i love. I dropped in and started the carve down the mountain and it literally was like the pandemic just disappeared. Once i was out there and skiing and making those turns it was the medicine for my soul. That i really desperately needed traveling vermont. This winter does require extra planning. In addition to the quarantines we mentioned earlier ski lifts and lodges have limited capacity. And you might need to make reservations for scheme parking and other services but doing that isn't all that different than planning your typical ski trip. And it's easy to find the latest information on travel restrictions at vermont. Vacation dot com. What i've been saying all along is we're all in this together. This year and skiing inherently is a community especially in vermont and that bond is going to help us because the reality is we all have a shared responsibility when it comes to the safeguards and the procedures that have been put in place in relation to the covid pandemic and we all have to play our part and the reward is that you get to come out and enjoy these mountains. Learn more about how to plan the winter adventure getaway you deserve at vermont. Vacation dot com. Emily was already a quarter of the way up. Al capp but the time. Most americans started their post-election dooms growing november fourth. I started climbing at one. Thirty in the morning Because i wanted to reach the down. Climb that pitch that. I was that the really uncertain one. I wanted to reach it before. I wanted to reach it in the daylight so i could see the holds but before the sun hit his when the sun hits the rocket gets really hot and really slippery. So that's why. I started at one thirty in the morning so that i can get there around seven an and i noticed that you didn't actually post about your plan on social media before the climb was a choice that you made. Yeah i just. I actually deleted my instagram account. I didn't leave my count. I deleted the app off night. Fell on all my social media the week before it felt like it wasn't helping me at all And i just wanted to check out for a little while. So i sort of just like gave myself that that time to focus inward so you get started at one thirty in the morning climbing assume by headlamp And you make it by sunrise seven. Am to this really difficult section. That has caused you problems before. How does the rest of the morning show so i. I actually surprised myself. I fell on at once. That pitch. And then i did. It can try. And i was really happy about person that ever happened so i had really good. Momentum felt really good that day. I felt really strong And then i got up to this fixed the golden desert which is like the five fifteen before five. And it's a pitch. That actually i didn't. I think i underestimated it. I had never fallen on it But i was. It was really hot at that point the time in the day and i decided to try it like try. Get out of the way the sun That can focus on the five word. Failed to your before. And i tried it once and my foot slips in sonner so hot and i spell and ripped a piece of gear but i would sign on. I was like oh well. That's bummer. But i'll just do it in the next thirty minutes and do it again. So went up there again Same thing super hot slipped again fell. This time i came off the wall really weird and i like swung into the wall and hit my head immediately. Saw a bunch of blood head wounds bleed a lot and thought i had a concussion. Flash backing to the year before was super bombed the end. I just felt like everything had come crumbling down like i you know i was like oh gonna fail again. You have blood like pouring down your face and cow long before you decide. I'm going to do this again. Probably like a couple of hours. I spent Kinda needed to like assess my potential for head injury and Wait for the sun to go away at that point. I was like okay. It's too hot like we need to wait for the sunday. Go i tell you was a couple of hours. Wow okay so lake at w. probably i don't know what like twenty eight hundred feet off the ground. Maybe more yet in that moment. What is your internal dialogue. What are you wrestling with during the hours that you're sitting there waiting to decide whether you're going to try those again. I mean i wanted to be done. Honestly like i'd give it up. I was just like. I don't wanna do this anymore. This sucks i'm over it but at the same time adrian was kinda like you can do this. You have to try one more time like you know at that point. It's kind of like what else are you going to do right. Like you could either do more out be done or you could give it one more. Try in my head. I was like okay. I'll try one more time But i had no expectations. You know it was like. I'll try one more time probably fall. Then i'll be done in that. And then i can go home and i can be happy that i i gave more. Try for me to climb well a lot. Sometimes i need to let go of all the expectations and almost give up in a way in. It almost is like a little bit of negativity. I have to adopt like all right. Well it's over. There's nothing left to do but like try to do the moves one more time you know. There's nothing to lose in that moment. Were you thinking at all about like. Oh like if i fail. I have to do it again. Yes definitely that was not a long time but again i know that like once you give something time in space like i would have been ready to go back and try again like i wouldn't have stopped there After you foul. You still had a lot of very hard climbing to do. I had one more hard pitch which was a five and then i had a lot of moderate dangerous climbing like really run out Intimidating really hard. If you're tired or as tired as i was It definitely was not over until i reached the top and then reached the top. And what did you feel the moment that you realized like. Oh my god. I've done it. It was almost. It was just perfect. It was like this really quiet night. enters just a few of us on top like the stars were out you know like in a lot of sports when you achieve something big. It's like you have like the livestream or the audience or whatever There is none of that And it was just kind of like. We had a little bottle of champagne. I called my parents. It was like you know as a middle at night. We didn't get down to thirty in the morning so it was one of those angry. Just like exhaustedly delirious and happy. And i mean that's a full that's like that's a full twenty four hours of awake for twenty seven hours or something like that. Were you listening point. No i just i you know. I've spent a lot of time. Like i've had a lot of big days in the mountains in a lot of days where i've been away for really long periods of time so i think it was like pretty well trained for that But it was definitely one of the more like i've never performed like physically that well Being awake for that long and in some ways the climb was just the beginning. Emily had been expecting some media attention for the climb but the story went viral. I did not anticipate it to like that Thinking about it. Afterwards economic sense the world was primed for some good news. I think it was just more war. Timing than anything else you know. That was a story that people found to be like inspiring. Even though most people didn't really understand what. I did the associated press which obviously is a service that distributes two papers across the world like guy the story very wrong They said that you were the first woman to climb al capp and a day which of course that honor goes to win hill. Who was the first person to do it in a day. What did that mistake say to you. What did it mean to you that they made that error. I was pretty bummed. I always like pretty a kind of like shamed and embarrassed. I guess that that had happened. Because like i've always known about her achievement. I've always like seen climbing as a space for women simply because of that achievement. You know she's just such a hero and so it was just like embarrassing more than anything But i. I actually reached out to lynn in like apologize. Choose i don't care what the media does i guess. What does it say to you that that was like the mistake that they made though like it's so inconceivable that it could have been like a woman to be the first to do it period. I think yeah that's true. Actually i didn't think about it like that. So many times on al capp. Where i just felt like. I didn't belong. Because i was one of the only women. They're trying to do trying to do what. I'm doing it so ironic. Isn't it because every climber knows about win hills accomplishment like everyone knows how groundbreaking that was and yet. Still when you're up there you're like feel like you're in still i kind of like a man's world You know and and so i. I am I guess influenced by that you know all of my mentors up there were men and i learned. I learned their ways and a lot of it. Didn't work for me and this year i changed it you know and i finally came to a place where i felt like i belong to up there. I felt like i knew what i was doing. I felt like competent. I felt confident and i felt like i could be a little bit creative and sort of like figure out my way. So you're you're thirty four right where where do you think you are right now in your climbing career. I mean i'm stronger than i've ever been in my life Which is really cool It's still think. I have like a long career ahead of me a lot of ideas but i just wreck. I do recognize that like in ten or fifteen years. Like i'm not going to be sending as hard as i'm sending out. I mean maybe i will be. We don't know who knows so. I don't know ran the middle. Yeah you're saying this was. This was not the last we're going to hear of you know that's for sure. That was outside contributor stephanie. Joyce speaking with climber. Emily harrington about her recent single day free. Climb avail capita. Stephanie produced this episode. Which was edited by me. Michael roberts or music is by robin carver. This episode of the outside podcast is brought to you by vermont. State that is open for the very best in winter adventures. But you do need to take some extra steps before travelling. Learn more about how to plan to get away. You need this season at vermont. Vacation dot com and that folks is the last episode of two thousand twenty. We'll be back next year. One of the things that i cannot stop thinking about as like how do you use the bathroom wearing a harness as a woman. Yeah i feel like. I should do a clinic on this. It's not that hard. Just squat not worried about people below you while with peeing. It's like of just part of the deal like econo- just get peed on. Do you really yeah you do. I peed on my day on my in a day. ascent Yeah it just happens so you just end up like accepting they're gonna get peed on. How the unglamorous side.

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S.. uploading the most listened to radio show on the planet. Taylor swift's postal also to for and you're waking up with, John Jay and rich with culture the music. This is. Jay Rich Andrzej Enrich Blake you'll aso strategy enrich our phone number's eight seven, seven, nine, three, seven, one Oh, four, seven, Thursday October eighth. You can text us tax jt are for whatever you want to say to our number, which is nine, six, eight, nine, three you know when I was a kid. I used to watch TV time. With, my mom. My Dad was Infanta TV was news you know or basketball. But when I was little I watch TV with my mom time, he'd be like soap operas or game shows or like the Miss America pageant the Miss USA Pageant in. My mom and I would sit there and keep score like actively watched the Miss America pageant. Those are the kind of shows I watched, right? Never, two million years would ever watch a debate never. So in my sister to was part of that. So last night. I'm watching. On netflix emily in Paris I, really really liked to show Emily Harris. and. Like Delaney. She finished it. I'm like these characters and I'm tired last I'm so tired and I'm watching Alien Paris I decided text my sister. and. I'm like. I'm obsessed with this show I. Really Am Lily Collins. The actress is she's amazing and I'm watching the show and and there's so many great funny. One liners in show and it's such a like. I don't really want to go to Paris. I've been there a couple of times what am I if I don't ever go again for the rest of my life I'm fine but it's such a fun story and. Text by sister I'm like. I'm obsessed with emily in Paris. And she's like Oh my God. We are watching the debates right now. Like my my wife and my older son Jake in my younger son Dutch they're all in Santa Monica with my sister and her family and they're all watching these debates and I'm over there myself watching this. Made me remind me maybe feel like a kid again ellsworth my mom watching the like my mom and clueless watching the Miss America pageant. Dad over there watching sixty minutes. Do you want? Oh, the debates are on and then I got a text in my wife later going there's a fly on Mike Pence's head and I'm I'm I would bet at eight I was out and I look at. A flight and I went to sleep and wake up this morning and it's like the talk. Star of the show man. Two minutes like Stephen Colbert to the whole thing on the fly it it was big. Well when I woke up this morning, I was like this flies big. This is the big story. So I sat down with British and we hammered this out. We thought how can we be topical because I don't think the world today needs a parody song when emily in Paris. Around the world people hey, my species I'm no for my love. Go I saw you on TV. On twenty five days old for a guy like that. So. I. Fly. On Fox News, yet baby. See me I was waving. Fly. Shot how can you blame me? So backstage tried to rape me. So then I'm watching the video footage of the fly right and I'm like I t I, lay down the audio went to pull that up. Can you enhance that? Very CSI. And sure enough I. Don't know if you guys could hear this again. I was watching it live I had to pull the audio this morning. So when you pull the audio and then you enhance the audio and then you enhance the audio new enhanced the audio so wonderful question. and. Here for a minute. This. Don't assume that what you're seeing. Sad. Watching. Jokes szucs. Man. Be, all over social media all over all day. That was really the most interesting part about the whole thing. Anyway. Because I I was on my laptop mainly doing work and I was just listening to it but I look up and I remember seeing it. I thought it was like a fly, my house that landed there. So it was like, okay, and then I went on social. Media. Everywhere. I saw today that it it happened to Hillary Clinton on her debate to Oh and they did you see that now? Yes. So there's now there's I've seen already memes of her video talking to fly landed on her head and then Mike Pence talking and fly landed on his head I don't know that be was last night. Anyway Emily in Paris you. Know I was so tired I was one of those tight. I don't know what happened yesterday. Made me so tired but I was like driving and it was one of the I had to take my son to training basketball practice yesterday and it was one of those rows driving on the freeway where or like. I. Thought it could fall asleep Red Light risque. Close. By reciting I thought man this. Is Bad. It's. Really tired leave early. Good. Anyway. Are you guys? Did you any further any other TV shows anyway And had a lot of work to do on my laptop when I was home. So I was I was pretty sad couldn't watch utopia. I did this thing I a popped up on my on my facebook memories of my time hop. Win. country. Singer Dirks Bentley, came over to my house. And got it my Michael Plunge. So I thought I wonder if I should re post it, and then there's this guy that I really really really admire like I really. I think he's amazing. Human being his name is Jesse it's Ler Eisler his name. And he was the guy that founded Zico coconut water. And he's entrepreneurs where the billion dollars now and he's married to the lady that founded spanks. Right. So together, they're like power couple on now he owns it Lanta Hawks basketball team and he started this private jet airline. So now he's in the health and fitness wellness, and he's he he had a navy seal live within for thirty days and he did whatever the navy seal told him to do. He's run one hundred mile race. He's done all these amazing things and right now he's doing this thing where. He's called plunging every day right every day. He's co plenty and he's posting things like this and over the last couple of years him and DMT each other. And I saw him start. He's doing like literally he's asking people to join his. He's kind of like a Tony Robbins now. So he's doing his Co. plunge stuff and he's doing this Wim Hof breathing, and so I was like the expensive video popped up on my memories. So I posted it and I tagged him because I want him to come to my house cope lunch. Just. Took a shot I posted it, and then Dirk commenting because I've dirks got twelve minutes in Dirk is like. Hey was thirteen minutes. Right. Okay. Thirty minutes my bad and then Jesse comments. And he sends me a DM. He goes next town I'm coming. I woke up to that message and I was like super high. So doping. Just kind of like throw aside that. Dirks. Bentley message you. Yeah Yeah. And then Jesse. Most. People wouldn't really even know of. Thirteen minutes. I. I wouldn't do. Any right you're right. My bad. Remember it was thirteen minutes. Vote but this Guy Jesse. But now getting anxiety because if you really comes like his, if you go to his instagram, you see this stuff does he he has people come over his house they go and they run this hill. He has a hundred times they run this hill then they go on like a ten mile run then they go crazy steam room workout then they go in a cope lunch then he goes to a chef cooks all this food. I'm like Byu Union guys come over to my house co plunge. To come up with more stuff. Yeah. You'd have like this whole set of Brady. By Bramlett. Camelback ten times. It's gotta be something outrageous like literally plotting overturned. Do what you do. It's like we're going to sit down and watch emily. Going to jump on the trampoline. Closet. We know that there's a whole exercise room up there somewhere. I was GONNA. Say we'll go hiking Labatt ten times and then we're GONNA do like supervise mushrooms. Got I'm try to do all this to see field. Plus yeah, exactly your whole life or this I know this guy's amazing I'm telling you as a human being and you'll how he started he. He would. He would. He had a number one hip hop song in the ninety s she did. Yes. Hip Hop artist this dude started off leave living on people's couches. He tried to be a record producer and he had a hip hop album a hip hop song in the ninety S. Fun. Yeah he's an amazing movie. We gotta get him on the show. He's amazing. John. Jane Rich. Jean Rhys. HOROSCOPES JOANNA IS I. Hi, Joanna Hurry. Join what you're saying Oh, you're in an to join a hold you. Hold you. Fourteen. Suze when you horoscopes are working on people like Wendy, you know what I mean like are six months old and your sign once you start seeing their personality come out that's when you religious literally when they're born. Tradition. So, this is how to encourage each horoscopes line because it's different for every single person. So you might think you might be trying to encourage someone when it's not it doesn't necessarily work on them. So for Leo's if you want to give this sign, encouragement them how much you appreciate what they're doing, how much you admire them and what a great example they're sending for others sometimes, they need to hear that they're on the right track and that their efforts have gone unnoticed liles are strong but that doesn't mean that they don't need a validation from time to time. That's actually really really true. Because like I love like attention stuff and. I love being around people and them telling me policies, things that we can boost on my confidence. Yeah. That doesn't hurt your radio very motivated signs. So in someone tells you, you're doing a good job, it only motivates you to do more. All right. Joy I have a great day today. By. Jabra what's your sign? Panther a cancer. So for this sign, the best way to encourage them to sit down and really listen to them, give them your full attention with Ike contact and body language who truly listened to a cancer truly listening to a cancer can allow them to fully express themselves and get rid of the negative feelings weighing them down. So once that bad energy has been talked out there ready to take on the world. That is so true. So true I feel like as they'd be motionless line, you probably have a lot that you want to you know let out and talk about. So you need someone that's going to be there for you to truly listen to you and sometimes that's hard to do. Joey British by the way is is a cancer. One of one of our member Joey Brad Fish. Just on the show knew what? CIANCI. Tab have a great day. What's your sign? Say. So I just WanNa to know which one we motivation there should not who which one we talk. Today for Gemini as you probably aren't aware of how encouraging you are to Gemini. When you post positive words or thoughtful comments on their social media, gems really appreciate that even just liking something or sharing something that a Gemini Post makes them feel at in the right place. It's the little things like that that really encourage them. Oh okay. When I look to see who's posting like so my social media, so I can be encourage you just started getting on instagram more has they have you know what I did and they. Liked my little and thing about who are the gym is where you got to par Kendrick Lamar biggie. Smalls off Geminis. Angelina Jolie I've met her once when she came up to the prison I worked at just as the immigrant years ago. How was she? Was Kinda stand she kind of sat in her as she and an most of us were gone from our ship. She went in and toured the facility and promised to get some of them I don't but I don't think she ever did. Because she's just an actress. No she she really cared about the immigrants Zappa she I think our second child. And we always learn something new about he'll. I've. been around guys. Thanks you have a great day. You too bye-bye Christie Scorpio. What is that? Oh So for Scorpio's I thought this was super interesting because my mom is a Scorpio too and when I read this I was like. I understand now. So it says think about this signs in how they sign encourages you and you have to Mir them. So do what they do they hold your hand and when you're doing something that's extra challenging do the same for them it's going to show them that you really care because it's this time you know cares about people they're close to them and they'll do whatever for them. So Scorpios are always straightforward with their wants. So asking them outright might not work just think about the things that they do for us so that you can do that for them to encourage them. That's true like I'm a really big family person and I'm really close to my mom and my dad. And I do like anything they asked me to at any time I don't care. I'll drop what I'm doing and I will go and like even for my kids. and. My Gosh I'm just Stephanie. Expect that in return makes sense Kristie. So John J for virgos. One of the best ways to encourage the scientists to questions let them show you their extensive knowledge on a subject variables are talented and smart but that doesn't mean they don't like to have it confirmed by other people from time the PUCK. You're so smart s yes. Libra, if you want to encourage this line, reach out to them by tech by text DM's or phone, you can contact them to congratulate them on something. They've accomplished no matter how small it is or just let them know that you're speaking of them that really encourages them. Think Nice gesture you know you gotTa have your way to tech someone or call them. Yeah. Can Be encouraging and rich for Pisces the best way to encourage the science to show them some unconditional love they do best when they feel supported, appreciated and loved. One. Hundred. As your your emotional science I'm extents and for Capricorn change can be hard for this time. So in order to help them with it or change their mindset altogether, be sure to notice the changes they make and praise them for it. You'll help like to reinforce some positive steps that capricorn have taken and encourage them to do more of it. Is If we didn't get your sign. On the air, you can read it on our website John Jane Rich Dot Com. What's your working offer? Three things we need to know if you're a fan of the cannabis, apparently, you can drink it. Now I'll tell you three things you need to know next with John Rich. Even when the show is over, we just keep talking and now you can hear it listen to the judge enrich afterwards podcasts on iheartradio or on I tunes coward would need today that interim said that the same treatment he got to treat covid nineteen, he wants to make free for the American public in the meantime the first and only vice presidential debate went down last night with Mike Pence and Kamala Harris. As far as the next presidential debate, things are kind of up in the air. So basically they announced it was going to be virtual, and then shortly after trump was like, yeah I'm not doing if it's virtual, that's my best trump impression. So, we have to wait and see if they're going to say okay we can move forward with it this coming. Thursday. A week from today or it's not happening because they want to keep it virtual and he won't participate. We just have to wait and see what if he doesn't show up and they still do it. Inviting interrupts himself. Now, it'd be interesting after spending four months in prison. The former Minneapolis police officer accused of murdering George Floyd was released from custody yesterday Derek shelving was freed after posting a million dollars bond have a trial expected to start in March so you need a little escape or you know some people use it medically speaking? THC CANNABIS The we'd there's lots of different names for the ones that I just mentioned are the coolest not pats blue ribbon. Digest introduced lemon flavored cannabis infused Seltzer water. So Watch out white clog. PABST blue ribbon like taking your hard seltzer and making it I duNNo. Steal Proof. How do you get even harder I'm not really sure. So the twelve ounce cans each will contain about five milligrams of THC four grams of sugar and twenty five calories. They've been quietly rolling these out to California dispensaries since the middle of September but now they're like, okay, we're ready to ready to put these in lots of dispensaries round the globe. and. That's three things you need to know the Tick Tock soulmate quiz, John? Jane Rich. So let's get to. Let's do some. The Tick Tock soulmate quiz the skill little Tim News. Already what's going on in the? Because celebrity world, all these celebrities have been having babies and it's like it feels like the kind of pop up out of nowhere because there's been a lot of isolating and social distancing and Whatnot Orlando Bloom Katy Perry, their daughter is here and he said there's something that has kind of weirded him out about everything. It was funny because when she first came out, it was always needs million and fortunately she says. Because, hated blues which was perfect but then she sort of. Like my mom. So then I got a little bit confused because Katie is breastfeeding. Slash. Slash. Human Made such. Having, a child is something that Meghan trainor has said she has always wanted she made the big announcement. She is having a baby yesterday and I just love the pure joy in her voice. We were thinking about who I tell I and I was like I'm told Hoda since I was like nineteen going today I will have the most babies in the world and I'm so excited have them someday on every time I? It's going to happen and finally happened we're still. I love. Spy Kids. Great what the kid from Spike. One. Kid who is crazy how grownup she is because? I. Don't know I still see. Courtney Cox daughter is just really little, but she's sixteen and she has got quite the voice according actually posted a video and she plays the piano while her daughter sings. Also. Who? That's that's one of my favorite songs of all time silver springs ancient just crushed it. And really quick there's no audio to go along with this. But when I saw the notification yesterday I was like, are you kidding me why would they say this so Britney Spears lawyer said that her mental capacity is like. Like that of a comatose patient and there has been all kinds of wag fan theories on her instagram that she is being held captive hash tag free Britney like that kind of stuff. So for me to hear her attorney say that I was like, wow, that's like very eye opening it very concerning at the same time. Are Her attorney saying there. So they're on her side. They're saying she can't. Like mentally be there to be able to sign a legal document because there's a lot of stuff going on with. Her Dad's in control of the conservative ship and she wants her sister to be involved and I was just like. Just. Blew my mind here. Her lawyers say that. Sort of worry about Brittany's mental state. You know she'd. Not always but ever since the umbrella and the shaving of the head. For Grosz she's been much. Okay. Let's get to the soul mate Tick Tock. would he got Suzanne, everybody's been you know this Tiktok it's Kinda gone viral. So it's A quiz a test to see a your partner is really your soulmate. So it's GonNa take some some mass. So you might WanNa take out your phone calculator calculator. Or you can do it all on your paper. Definitely. Alright so rich I. Don't know if you are seeing someone. Yeah Boyfriend girlfriend. Facial. Sure I assure you should be. Shots you have a girlfriend. Funny. John Jay. Question for you when people died most people cry. Cry. Man All right. Here we go. So take your partners age. Right down on. that. Help. You guys know their age. And add to Zeros to it. I'm doing it too. So, like add to like plus or just. Yeah. What do you mean for example like if you're twenty, five, twenty, five, hundred. Or Twenty five hundred, zero zero is twenty five no no. Not just attitude Zeros at the end. So Mr Baby is twenty six so I it's twenty, six hundred. Calculator, I'll show Ya okay. Number to. Subtract your birth year from that number. That's where you need a calculator. Like. The whole thing or just like the whole thing. All four numbers. That it. Okay. You got the the number equals. Okay number three, get that total from step one and step two. Then add the current year to the total found in step three. So the whatever number is you add twenty twenty yes. At Twenty, twenty, two that. It. All right now says, if you get both of your ages in the final total, you are deemed soulmates by the Math God's Oh my God, that's a weird. Look stupid. Because that's that trick. Two thousand six. Hundred Twenty seven Mr Baby is twenty six years old and I am twenty seven years old. So we are soulmates your the answer is you get your age and your partner's age yes. Oh Yeah. So we got you got that. Yeah. Well mine correct. Because my birthday is coming up so Often have to Bill next week. So he's not your soulmate until next weekend. Sorry man. What's meant to beat wait another week? Isn't that weird? Is Weird. I just thought it was a metric because. Okay It's weird. Put that on the website because it was going to try to figure it out they couldn't go if they're driving. That can. Decode that. Why would you were born from their age like have something to do with it though that's pretty impressive. Side Chick. Same Math. Maybe, that's your only site chick. Different. Linda. All right. So We have a dirty secret. We might have Jersey game okay if. I haven't covered up and also want to have some random stuff about driving to want to get into get into that next Sunday enrich use your phone like an actual photo call us gave seven, seven, nine, three, seven, one, four, John, Jane Rich. So I was driving in the car with my son. Camp yesterday because my son, my son Jake are with my wife and my sister in Santa Monica for fall break. But we were listening to music. And Concerts I don't really like going to concerts probably because it's our jobs and we have been every concert but I thought about this one concert and I was like that was a really good concert and if I had to go to another concert because right now, there's no concerts. I. Don't Miss Concert but if there was one concert I could go to. It was this one artist I thought man this artist is got so many hits. And I said to can't remember when he went to that show I was so tired I wish I would have paid more attention to that show. and. Then just now my facebook memories on my time hop. This is last night. I had this conversation. It was two years ago today that that concert happened. It was drinking migos allow. Those two years ago but I had that thought yesterday and it just came up today. Yeah. Yeah. It was weird. We were all there. And I was just like so I just real quick one time through if you could lose one concert pandemic, one cut mechanic drake's. FISA festival. Different type of. Oh I will go back to the little Wayne Versus Drake concert. Tour together I saw that show. I twelve years ago. They were on tour launched like two years. Two Years Twelve years ago. I saw the mentor they came through here about what? Reputation. Feeling like. I could go back that concert like a million times. For me I have so many artists I think the one person that I've seen that never disappoints live is beyond save no why would probably go to a beyonce's show? Very okay. Part of the rules of my game is, isn't that we all have to go to the concert that we pay. Some you all have to go with me to the DRE concert we ought to go with rich to the Justin timberlake concert. You'll have to go with Delaney jitter swift. We'll tico you call the on say and we have to go use it to the line concert at he puts on a good show. Anywhere Mike. Now all over the place I like it. I was in between beyond seeing. Justin, timberlake anyway, I just hadn't seen beyond saying while. The all the artists we just pick. That would be the best festival ever. Let's do it. Let's put together. Let's go back about. One hundred grand. Putting. A festival together because I'd love planning and all that and I know you like Planning Kyle we can actually decoration you. Decorate. have. INSTAGRAM -able spots. Fifty people can be at this Justin timberlake fiance. That was just. Like performers no, we can go. Anyway. We gotta get to this. We got we got dirty little secret online. Right. Now do we do next? I don't want to rush it. Let's see right now, Batman that we everybody gets gets a superhero name when he tells the Journal Secret Batman Thank you for holding. Welcome what your dirty little secret. So my dirty little secret is been in the army for about seven years and every chance. I can get that a combat deployment pops up. I tried to volunteer for it even though when I talked to my mom on like, oh no, I'm doing my best to stay stateside. Get deployed and she's in her heart hurts that you gotta go fight somewhere. She doesn't want me to go on combat deployment. She'd rather be you know do some of the other ones I've done like. Correa or some of the smaller ones you do stateside. So. Right so she doesn't want her baby to go fight combat. So but you you sign up for those right. So you tell her hey, where have you had to go for combat deployment? I have not had to go anywhere for combat deployment I kinda gotTa wear setup up I'm stuck in California as a recruiter for the army for the next three years so. but you keep signing up for it, but you don't get it. Yeah you can. You can volunteer, but it's Kinda. One of those luck of the draw with our knockers wants to give you up and you know the stars aligned. Put your mom through trauma for no reason. We'll see doesn't know. Got You inside a little bit that you. You know you're kind of lying you're. illu. Because it's bothering him. Not. To Tell Mama that. that. That's a good deal secret. You're a good man. You're good man. Thank you I. Thank you for your service man. Thank you very much. I've been on your instagram. That lead picture you had where you're holding a little dog. Did you adopt a dog? Yeah we just got her two weeks ago. She's ten weeks old. Post post a picture of her on Saturdays Love Pup Day on Saturday and use the. Hashtag love pop day. Okay. Will do thanks brother. Is if you've got a dirty little secret. Call us at eight, seven, seven, nine, three, seven, one, four, seven. You can also text us you could dm us we'll keep your name animus. We got a brand new war of the roses on the way. I didn't call it. Copa stuff. All that coming up next John Dean Rich. Pay The iheartradio. Visa Latinas tonight is today that if tonight, how are you involved? So I will be hosting the post show right after the IHEART FIESTA, it's going to be live on twitter. The push on twitter. So you got to be like oh come on was among. Who? He has a new album minis performing to. represent. Okay Secrets give everybody. A name, a superhero name. Joker. What your dirty little secret. So my dairy little secret will have. A heart attack. So I'm a bounty hunter. And my wife's thinks that all of the arrest I do or for nonviolent crimes. But in reality like ninety percent of the arrest idea for very violent people so to keep that from. Violent like what tell us about one of the most violent people arrested? double homicide. As you're going after people. WHO Haven't paid their car payment No it's prevail for. So, how did you catch the double homicide? Who Wasn't? How'd you find him? He was actually in Mexico and he was running out of California. So we had to go down to Mexico to find a location and they were just called the police. You. Even went to another country and didn't tell your wife. What she knew I went through a different country. Okay. No I went there for that. I kind of feel like I wouldn't WanNa know as I. Would leave the House I would be dying inside of worry. A non speaking understanding. Does going after violent people pay more than going after John Jay was saying like the people just didn't make car payments. So, what's an example of like for a double homicide that you bring in? What do you do you get on that? Forty thousand, all my God allowed. have had to chase somebody in climate chain link fence. My size I wouldn't go the fence I. It. Movie I always think staffing. Would I climb that fence just go? Go. Off. Thanks joker what a great story, what big secret to keep that from your wife. Say. Thanks. Wow Mystique what's your dirty little secret? I'm so good at drag that I can fuse. Multiple people that They can't even realized a real woman or Yeah. You're you're up professional dry queen do perform. Tied do perform across Missouri Arkansas Oklahoma Branson Drag race for some the drag queens and. Traveling from La New York but. I think it's great when I traveled with some of these smaller towns and just go into the gas station and Have like. Random. People like guides and Chester's buying my drinks and food food or. Like. All right. Well, say. That's the ultimate compliment to that. You're doing such a good job that people are people approaching you at. That's incredible. mystique. Mystique love to Mystique. flaming. Okay Guess which actor. Don't answer this rich because he might have been on text right put this on here. Guess which actor shirtless in fifty percent of his movies. Mark Wahlberg. None of those are in the top none of those. Shirt? Leonardo CAPRA's number five. Rayleigh can't even picture him shirtless I. Don't even know what he like shortlist. That's right we. Jason Momoa Zimmer to. Yeah don't have to wear sure ever. This guy is fifty percent of everything. He does shirtless the rock. nope. I can capable. That's a good one too. NOPE, Zach Ephron. That's another one. He doesn't have to wear share ever. Full. I. Wasn't expecting Mystique to hang up. Or get disconnected. People were ranked. They ranked driving or driving in snow as one of the most stressful things in dry as driving goes. What are some other stressful things about driving heavy rain? Will Rain and snow fog. Yeah. Liked weather case. DIRAC Shun. Traffic. Like why are you guys putting all of the roads under construction at the same time? Yeah and why is construction like? Take so long. Take I will constructions dot in the top ten traffic well, you got to be more specific I mean obviously merging onto a busy highway number ten. Parallel parking is number nine one way streets driving down a road to narrow. What else is stressful when you're driving can't find a parking space This is a big one. When a warning light comes on I, am check engine light comes on. This is a big one for me. And sometimes, it says when a big truck driving next to you but he ever been between two big fat I hate that and Try to speed up as I would say parallel parking. tailgaters. Hitting a big pothole. Driving Air you don't owe very well GPS, but that is a scare me. My son was asking me about because now, my son Jake's be driving for over a year. And he said maybe turned down a wrong way a one way street. And I remember when I was learning how to drive a stick shift and I was in my mom's car was a Ford Escort stickshift house with my sister and I was driving downtown San Diego and I turned down the wrong way down a one way street. In a bus was coming at me. Literally screamed and put my hands over my head and go the steering wheel. Jesus. God The willing. To buzzing. That my sister I just sat there and breathe really hard for while. So. Yes I have I've gone down the runway and I, go I think rich as the. Down the wrong way Chinatown in. PORTLAND. Three to Mike well, is it the way we're going? On Com usually kyle would navigate. And then I the. Turn wherever he wanted. This morning we got war of the roses. SELENA's reason to believe her husband might be cheating and it's all because she got a hold of his phone. That's almost never good. Then because everything is in the phone. So. She will tell us about the things she has found. And then we'll go over everything. We'll call the guy wore the roses next judge rich not only do you need to know if they're cheating you deserve to know the Truth War Right now John. Rich. Rich time for war of the roses. This is where you relationship and you think your husband, your boyfriend's cheating on c. come us like Selena here you get your boyfriend, your husband Selena. Okay your husband. So you're going to tell us why you think is cheating then Kyle's going undercover. She's GonNa pretend to work for a flower shop. She's in a call your husband. She's GonNa tell him that he wanted to dozen red roses, very romantic red roses, and then she finds out who he wants to send me to, and hopefully hopefully he picks you what's the story with your husband. Sell enough. Okay. So let me just like prefaces by like ease literally been like a trustworthy dude I. I've never like really I've never felt jealous or anything like I would. We always had a very honest relationship right recently I don't want us to time greasy but I just I'm not proud of it. But I happened to be like looking at his phone and I was just looking on his instagram like just 'cause I got curious and I see that these. And use. Okay. So you know you can look at the search bar and when you go and you look at get profiles that people have surgery to me I, see that he's like. Looked up at least like five profiles and these girls that she works worse. By. The thing is I just feel like it's weird because okay he works for this company. I'm not I don't WanNa say the name, but it's like one of those like energy drink companies that like has a bunch of hot girls promoting their stuff and everything you know what I'm saying and be girls that he's looking at our like goes promotion. I didn't see any end for anything toward them that I'm feeling really sketched out because I, want to know what the heck he's doing looking at these girls profiles like just searching I'm what are you looking at their photos? design, you're actually talking to them at work. There's really no reason as to why he should be looking at them because he's actually do he does accounting for them. He doesn't even do like promotion stuff at all. So there's literally like no reason. So I don't understand why the need to look is there. Could it be a quality check I? Mean if you're doing accounting that's like numbers, and if these girls are supposed to have a certain amount of posts and he checks profile to make sure they're posting with the drink or whatever exclusive never talked about that, he's also not even like instagram savvy like I feel there's no reason why he should be on there and all. Big of his him like Gawking at these girls online and like I don't and I feel like there's something going on here I don't know and I there's reason maybe diety. But like the not seeing kind of weird package I, don't know if he is just looking at their accounts like the is that do you consider that cheating is a problem in the relationship for you? Don't consider that cheating, but it sounds like. It seems like it could be something that could mean to that makes me suspicious he's never done anything like that before or I've never seen it. So I'm like, okay. What else could he be doing that? I'm not seeing I mean the question does still sort of stand if I call him and he sends them to you I don't know if that's GonNa give you any closure on the issue on why me and I feel like. All know for sure that he's not like. Sneaking around I don't know I feel like the possibilities Arizona defends the roses to be then. It feels like a form of closure I'm. Not GonNa lie and if he says I mean if he's seen what are these Energy drink curls you know when you send flowers, they can't be traced. That's who you send them to some of seen onsides but if you've got suspicion so here's we'll do. We'll get him on the phone and we'll see sends the flowers to okay. Hopefully sins of to you or maybe he says into one of the Bangor. Just guessing hold on hold on guys. Okay. He's literally pulling into the driveway right now. What Okay and so we'll just call him and say we send the flowers to. The. Word. He's supposed to be A. supposed. To be at work right now does doing in maybe they sent him home sick. Oh, my God. Okay. I gotta go just forget about this. Just forget about this needed freaking talk Kim. Okay. You talk to him and maybe we try another time. How can we forget about it though? I well I. We'll figure this out you do. We'll figure this out we will. I have some facts get. Chased. Just happened hold on what we do here bill we've never had anybody. Under Siege Lady Bill. I'm like we can call the husband and. It doesn't sound like we know we can't not with vision. What do we do? She's gone anyway she hung reading. Something do next is what you're asking what are we going to do next? How do we help her? Call. Her back and say, Hey, with you have a moment going back in and. Innocent Update. What happened okay. Good for you. Okay. Do that and then we'll come back with some stuff and then we'll we'll give a little. A solution here coming up next. Okay. So that's a weird part. One war of the roses John Jane Rich. Tastes KINDA NEAT so. More roses just Kinda. Like kaput ended we don't really have the part recall the dude. So Saga Orissa. Well, let's do life hacks and then I have my stuff I want to get to John Jay Stacks. So we're like, well, let's do John. Jay. Stacks life hacks than also it was like stacks and stacks. So we might have created a whole new segment called stacks and hats. I've got hacks. Okay. Got Stacks. For example, here's how it works. Apparently see Mike Stax is just stuff that I want to get too. That's information that I've been saving. Apparently virtual first dates might actually have some real advantage of face to face I states according to a new survey. and. They save you time and money. Also people say that they can still figure out if they have a connection. So one in four people plan on sticking with virtual dates after the pandemic, they like it. Kids will not necessarily sad actually. Kids will not be sitting on Santa's lap this year. I. Think about that either most. Around the country won't be having kids sit on Santa's lap this year instead socially distanced visits around including masks, plexiglass dividers, and photos from a distance. Skip the Santa Pick this year me sad. Yeah. I guess. So what though honestly every time I've gone to take my kids to see Santa all cry. So I think I'm okay not putting them through that you have the classic picture crying. Both children's. My mom has out of me and my see my sister, and then we have that of my boys. That's good. speaking of Santa The guy in Pennsylvania was arrested last week after he reached out to woman asked if he could rent his horse so he and his wife could have three with it. And he got arrested because I could. Do you slack is. Slacking Slack has become so much more popular during the pandemic they think. They're cool for this. Cole Haan and Slack Teamed Up to make slack inspired shoes. They're hundred twenty dollar white sneakers with accents in the slack local colors. It's a brand I've never heard of it before, but it totally sounds cool. Their shoes. Yeah. Okay, they're just white with like colored bottoms. Cool yeah actually. Converse. You look they look very, very comfortable. Comfortable. Oh. Okay Okay The newest shortage right now is the Mason Jar. Lots of people have been doing more cooking and canning their food. I have so many mason jars so many Mason's steadfast. Sweeps Club in New York City says it's worked out all the kinks. No Pun intended and ready to reopen the using temperature checks and lots of cleaning. Keeping capacity fifty percent and making people test in writing that they don't have any coronavirus symptoms before they enter. Also in California, the governor's office put out a message telling people if they do go out to eat keep their mask on and pull their mass down in between bites. Chew with your mask on. Yes I don't like it. Stacks now, some hacks, some life, this healthy stuff. This is all stuff that you may have thought was a wives tale or like passed down from generation but science says this works. So right now, if you're starting to get a stuffy nose ten night Alevi sliced onion. Near where you sleep and let it sit the entire night and you will wake up without a stuffy nose I've heard that before at least works says that works in this one I've never heard of, but they say this works to if you have the leg cramps in the middle of the night, if you're one of those people that wakes up with those sleep with a bar soap underneath your sheets near where your feet are in somehow that helps with leg cramps leered. Touching not touching it just has to be in the bed I wonder if the type of soap changes the treatment. got a little dove. Does this do Irish spring than? I looked in church was just a regular old Bara soap with no logo on it. So I couldn't even tell you it was Irish spring or whatever, and this one we've known for a long time but this to say this has actually science if you are driving the work in the morning and you WanNa have a better mood listen to a fun radio show eight science and they said a little prove your day. So about listening to this radio show where I was going the right place if you're here with us, that's a good thing because John Jane Rich. I deleted my instagram. No, you did in. Japan. I've been having so many problems with just it forget it I'm out not your account but just. Shout silly. High kicking off my phone. Do something. Like, four five days he's not acting, right? It's just it's frustrating. People said, DM's checks up here said mediums. I opened the DM I can't really do anything about it. It's hard to explain is frustrating. So now I'm getting snapped and people say, why aren't you responding to me again? And it's. I just deleted I just delete it and then restarted my phone. So we'll see if it doesn't work. It doesn't work I'm just going to go back to faxing people. You're so extreme. Anyway. Yesterday during what you WanNa know Wednesday. We're talking guiding Brady. Now. He claimed that he knew me and that he rescued a love pop dog just to impress the girl. And it turns out he wasn't I don't know him. So. Wondering how did your relationship begin with ally? Maybe you tried to impress somebody or maybe somebody lied to you to try to impress you. And did it work? Are you still together? Eight seven, seven, nine, three, seven, zero, four, seven. I dated a girl one time I remember I lied to her and told her I was twenty three. But I was twenty one. Item was a big deal. But when she found out, she apparently thought it was a big deal. She had a meltdown. We'd been dating already for like six seven months something she was like she do van s. You understand when you're twenty three, you think totally differently than you do when you're twenty one. Like shut up. Guess what what she was right and I was twenty three totally different perspective on life than when I was twenty one. Years. Twenty-three I was like I gotta get my life on track I focus on my career, my everything twenty-one. Once you jer this is it. I lied about my age too. I met a guy out and I was wearing my sister's gamified Betas sweatshirt and he asked if I was in this wordy and I said, yes. And I was still in high school. We dated for like two years. Careers. Did you confessed later on? Yeah. No I like our first actual date that we were on I was like, okay I feel really weird but like using I'm twenty something I'm really seventeen. Th All right. So tell us about a lie that started a relationship due to work. Did it not work? John Rich. No. At the time. So No. Maybe, the first time Song Yeah now, come your. I. Was your relationship face on a lie. How did your relationship begin with a line? HOW TO TURN OUT AUBREY? What happened to you? and. My husband and I first started dating. He told me he didn't have a middle name and so one dancing on health and found a credit card with the middle initial R.. and. I asked him like what is this and he's like, Oh yeah, I haven't been Davis Richard. Like. I get it. He can. Be Proud of that name. He doesn't want anyone to know. That's still what race today it's very fitting for him. Get it, get it. Do you know why she says that? Out For you. Oh you're asking me. Yes I've heard. Nicknames Richard Our Suzanne Do you know? Richard Aubrey. I see that's why circle except for you know maybe. Count Him in your. My wife Blake doesn't have the middle name isn't that we? report. That weird. I know, Sandra. How did your relationship begin with a lie? So, when I met my husband, I was his waitress. And he was. Eating dinner outback steakhouse and. We were and a whole bunch and I asked him if he because he said he was from out of town. Asked him. If he was here on business, he said no executed care for the way that no. Here for work. He's like no. Through, the scene super vague and then he said that he didn't work. So we ended up exchanging numbers and chitchatting like the next day. And you're trying to set a date to get together but he was really busy turns out. He was in town for spring training plane for the diamondbacks and he. Didn't want to allude to the fact that he was a baseball player so that I wouldn't turn out to be a groupie. And so when I was trying to make plantain like you're really visit for someone who has no work? No schooling. And so he lied told me that he was a security guard for the diamondbacks and that's why is scheduled to matched up with this. But, he's really a professional baseball player. Such a movie. He didn't want you to know he's a prince. Ya. Now we're married almost thirteen years and she can still a professional baseball player. He retired when our second kid was born. So He's been retired from baseball for eight years. Does have a baseball card and everything. Yeah. So on our first date by the end of the day when he apparently decided I was like worthy of knowing he was a baseball player he came out and said that actually is not a security guard, but he's a reliever for the diamondbacks. Can't protect me. Out. Those yellow jackets. What's so what's his name? He had to pull out its card. Brandon Brandon Villa Freddie. Bell and Villa Freddie, Mallon? Ovilla Freddie you didn't hesitate at all John. Phillips for any one of the best relief pitchers in the NFC. Data. Didn't believe I didn't believe him when he told me he played baseball and I was ready to be like, okay. This dates over but he pulled out his diamondbacks card and had to like show me that he had an ID cards said he was a pitcher for. All the lies has started relationship on I think that's a good one that he was protecting. Now, but then he spent so much time to prove who is. Security were you mad at him at all? No it's defended ongoing joke. About your story, there's so many great things your story but what they against something, Madison Outback steakhouse used to go there all the time they still around. Yeah I love. All the time. So my son that the other day. Every anniversary. I love that man they still have that one all the blooming onion. Oh Yeah. That's still out there now. Drawback. would. Says Richard. Richard. got them all over the country. Sandra. The question answered occasion. Outback steakhouse baseball. Typing. Ruby Tuesday's closing. Out here is that there's one near next to with their closing all one, hundred, eighty, five locations. Did you know that afraid to say otherwise? All Done Yeah Sad Monica. What was your live that started a relationship they? Actually. I was about light I was an exotic for the first two years of a relationship. Now. Let. Profession, did he think you're in? I was actually a dental during the day, and then he just thought that I was going out pan out with friends that night. Are you guys together now. Yes even for five years. And he knows the truth now. What was your? What was your stage name? Monica. Just kept my romance. Win. The Golden, state specific. Excellent Center stages Monica. Asia your heads the for Asia Fina. Monica. It was Monica's up. then. You know when she goes out wellstone, they're like, wow, I didn't expect that. Nice. Pleasant. So he found out you're an exotic dancer was he excited or upset? Like you know with that old saying where you have the BUREAUC- everyone wants seven but you know I don't want to admit it. But they. Never heard that before. Back. Really. Same, dating a stripper like eating a bag of chips in church everyone wants them but no one wants to admit it. Everyone here. I've never heard that same. Data, stripper. A bag of. Chips. Church. I met Gladys Knight when I worked in Dallas for a station that did these concerts and She was doing like a little show for the radio station. They were all hanging out in rehearsals and she walks up to me. She's a I'm supposed to go up and rehearse benign had one ship give me a chip. Bag of chips. All right. I'll go get you back. So I got. Nothing said she does the concert she thanks me during the show for a bag of chips because this man I got a bag of chips that's sitting. So she was very cool. She's cool lady. I heard this game before. The? Church. Valley Lindsey Joe go we'll talk about the next. Okay. Okay. We'll do them next door. Yeah. We'll do the next I gotTA. Tell you this I. got to tell you the I. I saw this list of of the worst candy bars the unhealthiest candy bars I want to go over that because number one blows my mind it makes my mouth water at the same time. I'll tell you that next John Richard we won't leave you on red we replied US text. Message tonight six, eight, nine, three, John Jane Rich How did your relationship begin to lie Valerie thank you for holding what happened. So my I eat was to go see the vendors movie with My. Now, ex but So the day before my friend. Discount as at the theaters. So she's like, do you WanNa Watch the movie and I was like Okay and then the next day on my day I had to pretend I was shocked by everything that's happening while my expert at me the whole time like I know, right? Pull it off. I don't forget. It'd be like we watch this. Acting. Skills are not that bad. Good. Valerie. Lindsey. Go ahead. How did starting ally? Well. Not only did the relationship Kinda an start off with a live, but it's also kind of the dirty little secret but I had ended up marrying the twin. And I had kind of hung out I don't know if you really say dated, we hung out a couple of times before I started dating his identical twin brother ended up marrying. Until. So it's been twenty years till the state. Nobody. On both sides the family now. So you dated, you're you're seeing one brother in yet up marrying the other brother and no knows you were seeing the first brother. Correct. What did you have sex with the first brother? No no no no no no. No I'm not that Kinda girl. Well you make out now. no. Only because I was still just kind of like on the fence if I even wanted to get involved with him with actually this period wasn't really interested but then the one I ended up marrying asked me to go out and I'm like, yeah sure and I'm like, oh, those awkward because they also live together. So after the first I went back over to his place, you know like, sit on the couch for like watching TV and the other brother walks in and he likes the look on his face is priceless. And kind of acted like I didn't really see him like come in and just kind of like body. Do Ever, talk about it and twenty years of marriage with the other brother. Oh. So yes oh, right. Before we really were like serious dating he had he did come up to me and he told me he's like you realize you can't tell my brother that you and I hung out and I'm like, yes, I know. You didn't do anything even kiss. Still. Up in the beginning of their relationship, it would be really weird for it to come up late. Yeah. Because is there any awkward tension between you two still? Yes. Between Both of them for. A man. Thanks. Well I mean, it's not yeah it's all the way around but yeah. So we're not we're not married anymore, but this is a twenty or secret that has one. I will say we do have two kids and I. Did tell the girls that it had happened in both of them are like you. Proper else. We're GONNA play the main game. Before I play the name game. We go the top three unhealthiest candy bars Real Quick Babe Ruth Number Three Milky Way number two. Number unhealthiest candy bar real quick one time around the room woody recess. No. Make our Snow Ridge butterfinger three. Musketeer. Who had some good? Good so good unhealthiest candy bar out there. The mean game you see him all over social media facts a whole bunch of new ones after last night's vice president debate John Rich. Game Chelsea's contests in. Hello, Chelsea how Lo- how low? Play the mean game I'm excited these viral means and video that we see all over the place we've heard them a million times as so this is what I'm going to play the very first part of the mean for you or the viral video, and you have to finish what it says to get the point if you don't get it, somebody has has a chance to steal you just buzzing with your name. Okay. Okay. All Right Chelsea a lot of TIKTOK Open here, and a lot of old viral videos two of you on a try to think back to own my son for health. All right. We're going to start with John Jay. West is songs on a skateboard. Video. Rich for the steal it sound. Lame. Who Can Mahan Fash Otari. Europe, already. The. Wrong Line Dari no point for you they're. Hard one. Probably the biggest viral video right now. I, just posted on my stories of it happening on vice president. Okay rich over you girl don't do it. It's not worth it. I'm not GONNA do it. I was just thinking about it. I'm not GONNA do it. Still go ahead. All right. Girl. Girl dog do it. It's not worth it. I'M NOT GONNA. Do it girl I was just thinking about it? I'm not do. I did. It she's on the board with one points Kyle over to you don't be suspicious means. No basis bridges. Dome visas. Suspicious all. WBZ. As Taking the lead with two points it over to Chelsea. Babies are good due to do to do baby. Shaq today. Today's. The. Baby. Baby, shy. All Right Chelsea. Very nice. You got a point right there. So Kyle. To Chelsea has one John Jay and a rich zero around to back over to John J data has one dollars bail one caller and to Chinese how much does he have? Eighty has one dollars bill, one caller and to families that how does he have James Broke? The current. Fast last. Mary Nice John J. You got one point they're rich over to you. Guys. I think that's followed up with eight still laney. Hey, guys, it's. John J. Sounds like the apparently kid right under rich. Never Learned Very nice rich. You are on the board now with one point two, Kyle you. To live my life man. Would you do to like. mcdonagh's left. Anyone WanNa. Steal. Don't. Either right here you play the whole thing. It just froze. Oh now if he wants to make French fries. Why do you want to work at Madison? Would you do? McDonald's. Can Make French fries. All Right Chelsea tile has two point one point where you can tie with her with this one. This is what we look like drunk a little bit but not growing it out. So we're GONNA show you what it looks like junk drunk. Shot Shot Shot. Anyone WanNa. Steal. Did this. She did. This is what we look like drunk a little bit but not doing it all. So we're going to you. Drunk at this. Point Ooh. Chelsea. 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RHOD: A Jokelahoma Too Far

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RHOD: A Jokelahoma Too Far

"So much well hello and welcome to watch crop in the podcast for all that crap which is loved to talk about on yale braves. I'm running. That's been over there have been. Let's go on nothing. I'm so excited to talk about dallas with their less before we I will announce it you guys. We have tickets on sale for our lives. So we're going to be doing what happens. Live on the internet. we're doing that For the first episode of the season of real housewives of new york city. We are super super excited. Do you want to get tickets for that. Just go to watch. What crap nzx dot com k. Except for those tickets. Are that ticket. Link is you can find that That date is sorry. Man i was. I said i was gonna do it. But i don't remember anything. Okay sixth yes the same or the same week is real housewives york so come join us for that and we are also going to be doing joint event. This weekend on instagram. Live peleton ride with all of you. Healthy crap listeners. follow the hashtag watch. Yeah hashed i watch a crap ends pretty sure for on had lawn do that and Do people who would normally spend that our wishing you were dead. We'll be making waffles with me on instagram case. So we're going to do that. And kinda you guys. While you're the real thing that we're doing a waffle peleton's live. This is like it's not a started off as a joke but now we're actually having a waffled actually get a waffle a waffle iron. Because of this. I mean need to you can also for those of you who don't have waffle irons but still want to join in. Waffles are the same as pancakes k. The only difference is the waffle iron. So those of you who don't want waffles can just make pancakes. Well i think. I think dom had suggested that he wouldn't be mad if i if i got a waffle waffle iron and i think i had turned down i was like yeah but you know they're they're changer. Thing it just feels like it takes up space. But now that i know it's a single use thing that we could do together i don't know that i it because it is a single use thing and i frankly don't really have any more room for stuff and so i'm leaving mine in the laundry room but masset every morning and i just wanna waffle all the time and then we talked about waffles earlier because we recorded earlier announced this event and of course i made waffle so i was like. I have to practice so dangerous to have that ship house. It really is I so back in college At one of the The the eating areas they actually had a little waffle iron. And you could buy batter. And so i would do. I'd pour it on. And i would like alabama myself a fresh homemade waffle every single day and it was glorious. You like certain rotate. It does your does your waffler rotated through. Yeah which is fun. That's a fun part of it and it's always amazing that it works like you open it up. It's like it's a. It's an awesome waffle. I'm always rest. Yeah i'm always impressed so For those of you who don't know how to make a waffle. Don't worry i'm gonna show you k- because i have been practicing waffles quite a bit. So that is saturday. It is eleven a and no it is one yet. it is one. Pm pacific time which knows no eleven. Am eleven the ride is at eleven am pacific. Time is eleven your time one. Pm central time two pm eastern time and might as well just say noon for mountain time. I mean let's not as long as we're doing three for this paraguay. You're going to have to look that. Sit up okay because my brain is about to pop you're in hawaii. You just to figure it out from there. Gotta look that shit up on the google okay. 'cause we can't help you. We're going to try to we're gonna comes to we're gonna try to crisscross by the way Because i don't know how i'm going to do x i don't really have any. I'm gonna see if i can latch some sort of like phone holder onto my appellate on that we could you know. China costs as much as the child. Okay they should have somewhere for you to put your phone. Let's peleton they actually don't really upsetting. Because they have like these two two things that can hold water bottles. And so i just have to rest my My phone and there. But like i think they just want you to be focused on their product. And which is which. I get. I mean they are. They are service but Yeah i it's. It's i guess i'll just have to reach down and actually manually hold my phone. I just have to do that with my hand. Right it's called working out okay. So you're going to have to. You're going to have to figure that out physical challenge skate. Then i don't to do any extra work while i long time at the the extra work your is. Your event is already so much more fun than my event like apples. You guys look hotter like your johnson of the will look better and my side of the van monk give it gay by the way there is actually some some not important information but useful information. Which is that. we're taking an emma love. Well thirty minute ride. It's a nineties pop. Ride that kicks off with. John sakata so i can jon. Secada was the selling point. I'm really looking forward to emma singing along about three or four times over the course of the ride in sort of a flat tone so i think that's something that we can all join. That's what she does. She's she's actually very rigorous. And i feel like i've won a die every time i've taken classes and like at random moments shelled. Just be like sing song. And i'm not going to hit any of the notes and then i'm going to tell you about my brother you know so it's gonna be listed when you take a ride with john syrup cada. I'll care bouquet and until they got that joke out you can't takata into a pun about waffles is not waffle possible. Okay todd like john takada. Okay okay but today speaking of people who only want you to focus on their product. Obviously that's not us but now we actually have like tickets to sell but we spent five minutes talking about waffles and peleton. yeah but Yeah come to that. That'll be super fun that saturday. Okay so here. We are with real housewives of beverly. You know. I just spent the whole week wondering can carry get more obnoxious. Yeah kerry be more of a detestable person. Guess what the answer is. Yes this we congratulations. Yeah the other thing that by the way carey was a little bit in the news. This week She tested positive for covid. Nineteen i'm and she tested positive. I guess upon arriving in new york this may have happened last week but She tested positive upon arriving in new york for the reunion and she was sitting next brandy on the airplane so both of them have to zoom in or had to zoom in to the reunion and people were really mad at carry online. 'cause they're like the like you had a major televised event coming up and for two weeks you just couldn't stay indoors and what is wrong with you Which is kind of funny. I mean who knows how she got it right but You know i see was that. She was sitting next to brandi. Who had her baby. She had her new baby next door and so she couldn't have known that baby. Okay i mean you know get off the plane. Just because newborn on a plane and also In the news Brands baby had a little tiny bottle of beer which was also really sweet with all the Has been drinking while she's pregnant. All of that controversy going on during this season it was nice to see that the baby already has a very good tolerance. So i'm not making any accusations. I'm just saying cheers baby. Jeered i heard. I heard actually that the baby has already yelled at the andhra for sex. So oh something else that happened in dallas this weekend. Who knew this was going to be so bad. We happened aside from the tv. Show that we're never gonna talk about what else something else that happened in the world of real housewives of dallas in Speaking of someone who just can't be hated enough. It's like okay. here's your year. He has chill and just be nice to everybody. You see please. Just try and get on people's good side okay leeann locking but no see. She just can't help herself so she instagram live or somebody didn't instagram live. And it's like a weird below the face face close up of leeann you know when you're holding your you know how your mom holds the face time like too low and your mother. It was like one of those and liang goes. I've went mr mr this weekend and it's suck it takes all and her friends like ooh and he starts cracking up. So mr mr. How i saw i saw his. We're asking about stephanie's gay trae gay trae forever and where he's been well. He opened his own bar. You know which is really cool. A gay bar. Whatever and see i guess. I don't know what led up to this but she made a nasty video about his bar. Yeah and so. I saw this response. Which is guy. This guy took a picture of himself and and the caption starts like dear. Mislock it and so already. I'm like what happened and then it's like two paragraphs like this. I put all my money together. And this isn't establishment and i'm take pride on i twenty three year old. Gb ma'am how dare you listen. You know you say that you support the lgbt community and this is the lgbt community. And i'm not some housewife on tv. I'm a real person and you're trying to hurt my business. I help the homeless on the holidays and died. You know it was like a very grand monologue. But girl i mean he earned it he earned. Yeah i i'm really sad. I didn't see the original video so we could like really way in because i have to say You know restaurant tours. Who get really sanctimonious. Also don't don't fare so well with me. You know so i i really you know an he. I just wish i knew all. I wish i had the videos. I could really weigh in with i literally. I almost video word for word that i can vouch for because i was running because you know when people freak out on the internet sometimes i think okay you know you go see what they're mad about and it's nothing it's like. Why is everybody so mad. You know and i kind of went into that with this. I was like what could she possibly done that. Was this back. That wasn't bad. it wasn't really bad. Just really mean if i it's you know she's got a million followers or whatever and He's just say you know. I'm teasing him. But he's saying like come on like a really young guy who put my money in his working his ass off during during all of this shit that's happening in the world and trying to feed people and you're trying to drag my ass down and it was actually fairly classy but it was very dramatic is a good old good old. Dallas dallas spat so well. We hope that that we do applaud that that bar and restaurant for staying open during this time. And you know we don't want and we don't want it to close and yeah we don't we don't just because an had a had a bad experience you know but also like that's also giving leon a lot of credit that she is about to dismantle your restaurant with her. I g live that it was. It was really shitty her but it was also really cool for. Because i mean. I'm going to mr mr now now. I know what mister mister is. Have cornell. I mean that's why i mean that's going gonna be a tourist place in dallas for all of the tv that watchers part of it has to like you know you do that whole big thing but it also draws a lot of attention like what is this bar and restaurant you know. It's like when that pizza place in chicago. Got mad at emily harris and like issued a statement to like every major publication about. How could this tv show make fun of our pizza place. We are legendary. I'm are you really mad about emily in paris but i know this is different. This is a different situation. The point is this. Congratulations on your new publicity. And you will do great now. It's great over in dallas. We'll stop by and we will we will. We will set the record straight ironically anyway so now we have like a fictitious war between mr mr and leeann defender. I know the boys who don't it round up. Yeah yeah Okay so real housewives of dallas The episode opens up With keri and stephanie still crying in each other's arms mainly carry crying because she feels so bad that she's ruined. Stephanie is trip. She's like i. S oh bad. I just want you to host. I feel bad. That i made made you cry. And i don't know i'm just thinking how could i make this even worse. I don't know give me about a few hours. I'll sit on it. Which squeezed great did like a really old car that has never met. Wd forty in its life trying to make down the road for one last lap around the block or yeah jesus lawson's yeah so there's like thunder but now it's everything's fine. The barbecue guys are there. And now it's time to get involved in the quote. Unquote redneck relay race. And so The split into teams we got carried the android and stephania one team and the other girls on the other team and then like i'm wait a second like should we even be using the word redneck because that that might not be culturally appropriate and cameron goes. We should know we should know. I mean are we gonna offend somebody. He's like i'm i'm redneck so i'm allowed to say it and can't gross so we can say it is it like were close to a redneck so weakened saying like how does that were. I just don't want offend any real knox And this is why you okay. Do you remember in that. Real housewives of beverly hills win the vanderpump rules staff came over to kyle's house to cater party and kyle when to stop z. And she goes okay. You guys leave it like you found it right just wet and she goes you leave it like he found it which is like a catering term for you clean my fucking kitchen when you leave right and everyone was like such a bad. This is why you have to be like that because these fuckers just left a dead pig out on the table thereby we're entering by. Yeah well they're probably like covert regulations so okay enjoy carcass by okay so stephanie's like well tiffany says. Yeah i read. Mac was a derogatory term as stephanie. Well you know reading just means like backwards where like. Maybe you don't have the best things but you saw fence doing things like you know. I'm not like a banner shady. I'm mike rhetoric eleven. So now they're like they're splitting into teams. One team is. Jim bob's babes. That seventy s team is jim bob spitz and ends like you know what you always need to have mother. You need to have a to monitor mother or something like else. What did you to names. It's three letter to do numbers. I guess i don't know gay. You gotta have a lot of names stepbrother. I got your money sucker calloway. Simmons cameras or team is power dream. House leads with really good. She's in pretty hair or so yes so out the window. There is like so now the the big pig is out there and and cameras like the reason why there is thunder right now is because some one murderer pig some and by the way note that we hear absolutely nothing from kerry about the giant pig carcass out on the porch like not a single word ten times more visceral than charles a story of going out and finding a turkey one day. This is like big guts everywhere. But she doesn't have a problem with eating meat. We find out in this episode. She just has a problem with hunting. So monitoring is fine. Hunting as bad mass. Like farm. slaughters are okay bud. Hunting is bad So curious like am. I the only one that's going to look like i'm going to war. Scott like pig blood. Oliver face like makeup on her face and cameras. Like oh kane now we do searches bandits bandon snap and dandruff just annoyed pink idiots. Hey team they monitor cameron like she's doing strategy just sets. She turned the stove on and the process. Which is like so. Cameron is like i mean later on. She gets bit by a scorpion. Like she's kind of a mess so then in walks charles of all oh no. He doesn't not walk k. This is how charts the jesus. Christ are we under arrest knocks like that someone who's trying to get away from bigfoot. Someone who's like. I saw the turkey. Guess what are subject to there. I think they might be in a relationship because every time i see that big turkey has he big so so so charles. He's back and here's the oh feels deals. Yeah that's right track. Like if she's not going to go to him then. I'm bringing him to her so then we see a clip. Because it's really important to know. Just how charles got here. We get a flashback stephanie. Going i'm high. We want like come to dinner. Okay yeah and he's like now he's like. I don't know if it was something i had done. That made her matt and chemicals. No no no no. She's like a lot of emphatic. Knows this episode. So carrie goes up to apologize to him and this is what she does. This is the lady who's always talking about apologizing and owning up to shit right so she goes Hi hi I remember from yesterday. Which is the stupidest thing to say. I know you remember me from yesterday. It's been like less than twelve hours. I know you've been knowing me yesterday. My name's kerry i'm on the dallas I have a place in korea that has a whole staff. It's just sort of like a better place anyway. I i just wanted to say you know. I'm sorry for saying things about your which all know a small but not to be set out loud. And i just very judged by you when you were angry at me after i called yours small so you know i accept your apology. Thank you yeah. She's like you know but that was hurt and there was touched by you. When you went to wouldn't give me the sword in the micheri. The jetty. I like animals and they don't want them to be killed and some other. See them yeah them to eat them out outta apologize. Such terrible apologies stuff. He's like okay. I'm going to teach you something. Apologize to someone. Say but or make excuses. So like for instance. If someone were to say i apologize for throwing you into the pool inside the foyer. You don't say but you're a woman you deserve it. You just say you just end it right there. That's all okay. Well i'd like to try this again. I'm very sorry to typeset stephanie. And he's like okay. We'll i guess. I'm sorry to as stephanie's like What kind of hypnotism that was. But like he owed her no apology. Yeah he just doesn't like awkward situations you know So apparently he doesn't confrontation which is why he's always one away from bigfoot. Not like a real man Finale tom for a really right now. It's time to relay race and charles is going to be rough of this whole thing and it's church camp camp camp. This church camp experience ronnie gins ours was cleaner we had a lot. Cleaner knocks games. They like the baseball. This one had like baseball's and stockings that like testicles and then like sticking plungers and toilet paper things that looks like full on like sex and talk of war which wasn't wasn't that sexual maybe as metaphor a metaphorical comment on the sexes. Perhaps but probably not it ends film it ends in foam. Yeah cameras like everyone crop hall home. And that's pretty much. That's pretty much it. So they play these redneck games and they have to like hit. Shaving cream across the ground with testicles that like hang down from will like there or whatever and bafta that and carry of course like well. It's very sexual a hold toilet paper rolls between your legs. You have to have very strong muscles underneath of china. Thanks for illustrating that carry. We had no idea it was sexual. We just thought it was just like a presentation of physics. Thank you thank you for eliminating that to us and then cameron so they're supposed to do that. The ball the tactical thing first and then the plunger and the toilet paper and then after that like they have to get onto each side of the rope to do the tug of war and so after the first things are done. Cameron just runs up because there's foam and like like shaving cream in the middle. Because if you lose you get dragged into this pit and cameras runs up into dives into the pit of foam was like what are you doing. And she's not supposed to do that because yeah. I don't know what i was thinking. i just. I wasn't paying attention direction. She thought it was like the grand finale just was the slide through that and over. Yeah and tiffany's like if there's anything. I don't mind coming in last four. It's using this low hanging testicle hit shaving cream across a floor so her mom somewhere watching me like i would have done it. Thanks mom her. Mom is at home like closing. All the all the said's into bowing her head in shame. Just making the dumplings with the with the ball and the dockings like really do anything with it just takes a little bit of practice tiffany navy. That's all you need. So then they did talk so carries team wins and she wins pretty much. Just think kerry would win. Well we want who knows are losers ding dong. I'm here for the losers pits. Yo highlight as we get the prize. We get the bra. We got the bronze loser prize for me. News for you Exactly how you expect her to win anything. Like she went she gets. She gets like the last sample costco. I got the last one sucker told me. Oh you're rascal has a flat tire. Sorry i guess. That's because i kicked it so now it's time to eat and this big pig is just god blessed just dead on the table there and and cameras like i really though charlotte's web. That's what she's reflecting on and then curious. This is the best corn on the cob. I've had in my life. I'm like that does not make you a good guest carry. You're still being obnoxious as hell. So then there's like thunder and charles round to 'cause i guess it there was thunder earlier and Brandy brandy has stepped away from the table. And i'm personally thinking okay. This is the policies season. Were brandy suddenly start. Finally realizes she's pregnant 'cause she hasn't realized it yet. But no it's just brandy getting into a big fight costume which i'm shocked. We did not anticipate. Yeah deandra gets charlie sector with charlie charlie. Have you ever talked to anyone else who saw bit. He's like sure have well. Have you asked them how come nobody sees it now. How can move. Ut who saw it and is bigfoot. 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Crap ends must be twenty one. Plus so stephanie. Vannier come out in their wacky costumes to prank back because camping. She's so funny with the texas chainsaw massacre prank. We gotta get so then. We get a clip of them planning it. Which i don't know what's up with this episode and all the clips of things that we don't need to see like hey you know you think we should thank you. Memling camden like that paint us. We should like we should like paintcare and put on costumes. I'm like yeah thanks. Thanks for really fleshing out the back story on this terrible. That should have been done the night before when they were action. The where were bigfoot was so so they come in dresses. Big for tiffany actually goes running which is shocking. Because it's like the most blatantly this like not even tall big. Like these are like stephanie and brandy size so there's just like you know like they're not big feet they're just like you know five four feet and so so tiffany's terrified cameras. Of course not perturbed. She just sitting there eating corn corn on the cob. And she's like. I knew a hundred per cent wasn't that that wasn't the the real big foot and really what gave it away the fact that there are two big feet. And they're saying i love you. Have you have and cameras like thinks. She's so smart. she's got that one. I like kind of twitching enclosing like she does. She said something really smart so then brandies. Does anybody wanna see my dad's. Oh yeah. I'm dancing. Like how i am larry and tiffany's like wow look at be having fun. She's finally feeling comfortable around my mom whiteness. I mean it's really touching seriously so the rain is pouring down and now it's three hours later. We're in producer cam new not me. I'm not the producer note produce. A camera isn't it always producer cam. Tv show that's true. That is true. So if they're all having fun and they're they're venting around and tiffany wants. Tiffany found some like stink bombs at the gas station. And she's gonna play a prank. Now this is my least favorite kind of prank. Because one trip on. Shah's of sunset. Where raza basically stank everyone off the bus music. Luke luke i have i have. I met this areas. It's an vile like never do this prank on me. Oh and they like liquid poop all over the toilet member like spread over the so bad. Also tiffany really doesn't have a good track record with pranks on this. Yes worried yeah. Her pranking is not great. I'm like okay. This is not gonna be a great prank but like whatever we'll see it through like i like tiffany so i'll support her in like connecting with fun. Things in life gets really mad at her ranked. So i was like. Don't do it. when are you going to learn your lesson. this is this is. You're not a prank or like there are some people who are good at pranks. Some people aren't and like you're not your ministry. Your ministry is like is like is is keeping beautiful surgery. Yeah so she's like mom so we're gonna pretend like we're going to go talk to them and their rooms. But then we're going to deposit part bombs so they do and then careers like god. I hate like melts. I hate them. You love heart. Smells literally nobody no. Yeah i know. I was like this is. This is not another bombshell. I was surprised that she didn't launch them a growing up. My mother wasn't alcoholic fart. All over the place was like why. Have you not told us by your alcoholic mother yet. So she's so mad so she's like are you kidding me. Oh you come over here. Come gordon my bet. it's horrible. It smells so disgusted. I'm not going to be able to sleep at all tonight. It smells like farts a mike. I agree it is very very obnoxious. But i also feel like you know put on a fan of windows and just like you have a twenty five minutes right. Yeah i mean. I'm not in support of this prank whatsoever. Like i'm on the record. I don't like think i do not like it. Have at carey. You know carry reacts with by starting everybody on fire. He's like you know what do you haven't going to get her back. I'm going to start her hair on fire and then i'm going to get the lighter food and i'm going to spray your body with it. Well this gets back to my theory from last week. Which is that kerry is the friend who breaks your toys. Because what does she do. She goes to the fridge. She takes some looks like juice juice in salsa and she'd little just like pours juice salsa on their bed which is actually bunkers. Considering this is like an airbnb. It's actually disrespectful to people who own place. It's actually too far and it's an it's an exact example of that behavior like it's that mentality that causes her to break your toys when you're a kid it's like i'm going to do someday crazy like why don't you think of the consequences that was. That was my car. Toys kerry from my past. It's really gross. And salsa. doesn't come out of anything. I mean you might as well just go e. water burger in their room. Because that's it is never coming out. They will smell that for twenty years. You know so Cameras she crossed the line. If it was sharia's i mean we could like up trees and be like hall. That's funny but this is vandalism. She's actually wrong though. That's the thing it's just funny to her. Funnels them so cameron. Cameron is now furious and she just goes up to karen ships. You put salsa over booth orb beds or caicos. Almost grew up. No go put on new sheets on there because this is insane. This is insane right now madison. And she's like oh tomatoes rules for big deal and stephens literally girl. That's going to be in their stuff growth literally so basically. They're all pissed tender. Goes you know. I noticed that. Carry drinks shave since boundaries. Welcome to the show. Welcome to being bravo and she. She's like she's like it's like all the fun just completely dissipates. It's like someone takes. Someone takes a pin pop. The balloon or takes the wheel rips. It up leaves a new one on your bed. She just ruined all the fun. So cam is like yelling at carey. She's also taking video of the sheets while she's yelling at carey like i won't use this in a court of law so she's like that's it i'm going to hotel and Basically okay sorry me. Stephanie upset so she tells us The next day. Of course it's getting old. This is like a heavenly apology but without any of the entertainment value safely. Oh okay. I think i overreacted last night. Obviously i didn't think i was messing up to three pat. I spent last night doing laundry and cleaning and today it looks like nothing happened. Which of course the house is still a disaster. But i guess you got the bad debt Hope you do. You put the mattress in the washing machine man. Let me tell you about to say the mattress and the comforter and let me tell you something. I need to see it i before. I believe that everything is ok. Okay because that was salsa. And like i don't believe you know whatever makes me think of remember that show instant hotel. We watched australian show and like they member they stayed at. There was a goal and remember bondi beach. Yeah and mikey and that one girl spilled wine because they put a glass of red wine on like the comforter and they spilled it and so then they tried to take it on the mid worse than they shoved it in the closet hoping no one but notice that is. What's what's going on here. Yes and you know that she probably just left sausage chunks all in the washing machine. Aw overall i mean they actually disrespected this airbnb in so many different ways i hope the owners got a nice big chunk of change from bronco because everything was terrible. So now it's like. Oh god the pig they have to clean up this pig that still out there on the porch. So stephanie's bendy want to help with the bang and brady stays a sweep and tiffany. Says i feel like if you didn't eat the pig you don't have to clean it. Yeah and so. They're they're putting their here putting this pig carcass in the garbage and then brandy comes out on her big costume because everyone wanted to non-core and so she's out there and she's like she's cleaning in the big for costume just so wacky wacky funny lady. And and then they're like being like oh like putting on the garbage when it's actually not that big of a deal. It's just put it in the garbage. You know in the bag and then brandy goes. And then she'd she'd like basically goes into the hot tub in the bigfoot costume. And i'm like this costume. I'm assuming as rented. I mean maybe it's not i mean i don't know i've felt like everything was just like a everything felt like a dis- disrespect to someone property during. Yeah their trash their total trash. Okay this is why. It's so scary to rent anything out because trash comes. Yeah also i was thinking. It's so funny. How gross they're out. They are by the pig like once. It's done eating it. You know it's like oh that's so it's like it's like when you don't have a boner and you just make it person you're like and also like why did they just leave that out all night. I mean it was like outside and there's like in the forest. Do you want us to animals and and bugs like why would like just put it in the bag before you go to sleep. They were up. It's like know. I knew when i watched this episode that you were so triggered i was like i'm hoping type right now because barely able to so then so then is like she's like. Oh yes. I got this house at the bath and house up all night so let me tell you something. I definitely paid for my shine on guns. And they're like shannon gets challenge to ninety on the lake shenanigans things. Everyone pretty much agrees that she's you know she's cross alive and camera dome ads. She's like did i get a good night's sleep new. I slept on a shower. Okay it crinkled every at can just totally imagine camera and getting woken up by crinkles and then carry. This is actually something really pissed me off which i felt like was really not highlighted. I don't know if you caught this precarious. Whoever cleaned the pig doesn't have to clean the kitchen. And i'm like that is not a fair trade. The pig all that required was you to shove it into a bag. The kitchen was just like just piles of food and plates and drinks and bottles. That was bullshit and keri got herself out of it. Yeah but it does give us a good time to have a mommy conversation between dante. If needed a kitchen so dan. i didn't ask you about you. my mother dumped about. Why certain of you my brother and my house. She's like well. actually we were talking about. I'm like jealous of your relationship with your mom because like when you say fuck you mom it like. It's so touching because like it really shows you how close you are. When you're like you stupid bitch. Mom fuck you. I hope you die. I mean it's really like my mom is like affectionate like she has never hugged me once in her life like my mom and dad have never hugged each other. Mom has never said she loves me. She's never said she's proud of me and again let me remind you. She's never hugged me. And let me tell you something. I doubt we will ever see that in my lifetime ever. I'm just not fair. I mean i got straight as some high school is i mean. You couldn't have had more than these. I doubles yet. I have these good looks. That's what i have you talking about my mother and my grades. So she's like well which ever affectionate. What do you mean. Well does she ever just drop you off dillard to twenty dollars and say make the most of it now. Did you ever tell you know light. Drop your last name and just they. Just start having yourself simmons until someone. Mary's you that name now. Ever put a wig on dog and say good girl deandra. Finally your band to a cup a day now. Did she ever Locker room full donuts and said you got your way out like saw donuts. Now that one. I may have done to myself a out everyone so now so now we're finally back in dallas and so we're seeing things happening around town so it's definitely kids are exercising. Tiffany is teaching our kids about science of making a little volcano. Evan cameron's like i got bitten by a scorpion. Yeah i was bending over old. Pick up a clearer and are good down. Put my arms under and then something's strongman. That wasn't just a piece thing. It was like four stinger. I in one and like if it had been up. Poisonous scorpion lost my arm. Yeah we know is not a poisonous scorpion. 'cause i have my arm stall as she's telling her kids. Well i first hilton comes home and court goes. Hey drama. Which was so funny. And she's like oh my god. Do you want it like. She's trying to talk in this crazy insane. Like she's talking to babies voice tells them the story and hilton's just eating just staring at her like you are the biggest fucking moron and she's like guys. Let me tell you what happened. How much it hurt goes we get. It hurt move on an mamadee somewhere. Saying go places so now sandra comes over. Sandra is the animal communicator. And she comes over and cameras. She can speak to animals that are alive but also injured animals so she can talk to louis for us. So sandra light. She's like you know the thing with louis. You do your whole sparkle dog. He was the spark in sparkle dog. Wasn't he and kim's like yes he was. Yes you are a this is this lady is such a shady liar okay. I'm a sweet and my lady is such a shady liar. I'm so mad at this lady. And of course like is this thing he goes. We do some odd things in the scott house because of our blonde leader. I mean it makes her happy. Just us babe. It makes us happy. Because we're a team he goes. Yeah us are happy if obama's happy if it makes us happy we're going to do a cam wants to do. I actually found this was one of its most enduring scenes like i feel like w- court maybe has struggled with being on camera and wanting to preserve his masculinity and and feel like he's the man and i think at somewhere along the line he just gave up and it's just like yeah this is what it is is just cameron just does everything. He's been trying to hold onto any masculinity he's been living in a pink house with diamonds glued to cabinets for his trying to present some form of it. Like you're a stupid girl doesn't know anything about business if and now he's just like all right. Let's do the dog you say before. We go through his wardrobe and even says i think he even says at some point that a little bit just a little bit he goes like i celebrate your ridiculousness theories and things are so as hall and having a pink bubble around you end this fantasy. It's fantastic celebrate it. I was like that was actually a nice thing to say in a weirdly condescending way to court i mean old. I think they're just doing that. Old marriage where it's like. Oh you know she's just a lady who only like shopping and i'm a guy who likes golf and named after things you play tennis on so the lady she was like Be now call for our friends. The arch angels. And we ask that. You would open up your gifts of intuitive communication with louis. Okay louis all right. oh guess. What guys he's sitting up pretty and handsome like wow. Wow you really have a gift there lady. You exactly what dog might be doing right now. Guests oh you know what lewis told me. Louis likes funds smells anybody that sound mike louis. Oh my god that's him. He just moved on the couch. Oh my god really. Louis never got the potty training him he's peeing on the treadmill. He hates the treadmill. So it looks like louis is trying to tie himself to the treadmill. Does that sound like something. he do. So louis. Ghost louis says that he's irreplaceable. So don't even try to think about it but he's really happy that fancies there because fancy is so much fun and And louis is okay with fancy wearing his old clothes. Because sandra he gets he becomes a little bit of a smart aleck and he says. I don't need the clothes anymore. So it's okay. Fancy can have them. I'm like what is this woman. Sandra on her off time. Like how like what is like what do you think she just has these conversations with ourselves also if heaven is a creepy nudist colony. I do not even want to go there. The only person. I know that's going to happen my memo anyway. Do you think. I want to walk around naked with my my everyday. Gimme fucking fancies. Close the only one who knows what happened is like belinda carlisle and i said it so. Cameron is lake Well is louie gonna go to the new house. And she's like absolutely he promises to go along without the right answer. Was that what you wanted to hear. Otherwise can give an alternate one. That'll be nine hundred dollars so then. Dan's at home with gross gross asked jeremy. Okay so he's like baby girl. You look oh lewd lewdness and still work madrid steelworks in his hand and he cut a girl named pretty jessica jessica. I forgot pretty jessica. Yeah so deandra. And she's wearing her her trophy from the redneck olympics. Which was that toilet seat. That still let like wet gold spray paint on it so she has overhead. And because you're hot. Jeremy stop stop it. She's bringing toilet seat so seton move and he's like a bone or old yale on the email from my stepmother starts out nice but it gets real. Bad real bad nasty. Are you ready for me. Because i'm gonna read it okay. 'cause dander realized that before she can mend things with her stepbrother. She really has to fix things with the stepmother because mom obviously like controls everything over there so she sent her her step mom email so here is the email that starts off nice but then gets real bad as everyone ready. This is getting get real bad real bad okay. Real bad k. Dare deandra your sweet. Letters were appreciated by both rawson. May truly you and i have so much to process. In order to clear the air before we can start over rothfield. He and his family with Be included in a family dinner. But after you and i meet privately. Is there a time your schedule it that we can meet. I'm looking forward to meeting for just you and me. I'm looking forward to meeting jeremy. Another timepiece hulu ronnie. Whoa might as well scholar a dumb bitch for four paragraph. Want not just type out to sea worms. Copy paste of five paragraphs in germany's like what's so bad about that like well. I mean because he has had permission then. If things got hurt you well let me talk to him. I mean what is that. Okay and you know what she was talking about the past and you tell combat the path in gonna help anything okay in the past. You took her money so in order for you to move forward. You're going to have to discuss that whole. I got the entire inheritance instead of his new family. That's that's kind of thing that's going to need to be discussed. You don't also say like sorry. Took took all your money. Don't want to discuss that. Okay just wanna talk about the future. We're we're all be asking to split the check every time we had have dinner and also she's always talking about the past so a ham so she's like you know what i don't like that tone of the email and then she said then she said. I responded the next day and said please read it respond to my email and so basically she saying that like her brother just only knows the version that the mom told her and that her memory is that she was. Oh i was just a kid. I was thirty six. I just come home. I'm thirty seven. I just came home on him. My first husband and two days later my dad committed suicide. And then like i went to my bedroom and there was a will on the band right there who puts a will in a child's bedroom. I'm like a child's bedroom. You're thirty seven. Just got back from your honey blinking for two weeks. Yeah and she says well. And then i finally got to talk to. My mother and mother said that she has a will that supersedes any wheel stepmother. Has i mean putting a bed on a child's bed child thirty six year old child and you know. Listen my dad. Wouldn't better the year. Okay but he made a deal with my mother that he would pay. No child support in exchange for us get of inheritance so i offer split it with my brother but then my stepmother say no. We're going to court. Because she wanted out and guess what she got nothing and he's angry with me because i was like. Wow that is the most fucked up but also amazing story if this atlanta just like she said. I'm actually proud of her indie forgiving about money. If they should've yeah. I actually think that if that guy didn't pay child support and then was trying to screw them out of even the inheritance which is part of the deal like that's fucked up and it sounds like i actually believed andrew. I believe deandra when she says that she offered half and I believe that. So i but wowed deandra. Their backstory is pretty amazing. It is why ev- every time we get like another repeal away another layer. I'm i'm just totally. Fascinated definitely carried this season. Because i'm invested. Got this every week. Something crazier with them. Yeah so now we go back to cameron's house and she's got like a box like a box duties as please take off your shoes and split directed towards the scorpion like please shoes in her scorpions so they are basically just going through louise little closet because he actually has a closet and sort of weeding out to close and cameras thinking to herself like how many days it is before they move into the new house thick. Let's see. we got monday and wednesday to tuesday. Thursday and he'll he'll go back to school mom. That two nights or eighteen can't courts like Is three nights cam. Tuesday wednesday thursdays. Just oh why. Why is it that when hilton's asses her mom is like so funny and adorable but then when when like brooklyn passes brandy. It's like that girl that girl needs to be but it did military school. Why is that. I don't know. I think it's funny. Where brooklyn does it too but I just love. I love acid kid k Which you know already. So cameron is like yeah. You know court was so secretive. That i didn't have time to talk so now we have to do it on tuesday through monday. And she's like Hey you need some tape core. I have pink tape or you embarrassed by pink tape. And he's like. I'm way past embarrassed like i'm way past that cam where bath that. Just give me the pink. So now they're just going through these like trying to decide what to keep fancy and she's oh. My god this is. This was lewis. Social jackets called hangover. Oh his cavalli tracks. Everything is just like so fancy no pun intended. He's like discuss more money than my wardrobe and he goes. You know this is really bittersweet camp. Because you know louis isn't coming. Just yes he is like. Oh yeah. I forgot he goes. He's like no. He's just come in a different form. We're leaving the house that he was in and she's like oh and it was actually kind of sad. It was like her heart broke all over again. I kind of. I kind of felt bad at this also made me like court. I felt like. I felt like he was like acknowledging her feelings. He was sort of like not condescending to them he was sort of like playing along even though he's breaking your heart again So i like that. And then in the end she decides she doesn't want to have to buy a whole new tiny closet full of fucking dog clothes. Yeah and also probably wracked with guilt. Because he was not paying attention to the dog in baghdad so The basically the moment of growth for cameron. Her season is complete because She now rebranded lower close as fancies wardrobe and she's finally accepted the reality of louise's death. Which sort of like funny and trivial. But i actually think that's a very real thing and so action like happy for her. Yeah well does a doll. Also you misspell. Fancy tiffany's at her house with her kids for and they really love along. Tiffany seem on. the i liked. Tiffany gets a is twenty minutes seen every episode so we get a scene with tiffany and her kids. 'cause grammy's coming over as grandma grace's birthday and so she's finally going to teach tiffany how to make her special dumplings and Yeah so she comes over and he's like mom. So here's a birthday sign and i made custom aprons. Here's one it says. Grammy on it and she's like oh i love this one. I mean it's a little big so you have to strategize mom. Let me just stare at you and have this moment haunt you for the next few weeks the apron that you should have known this to big you should have known have known so. Tiffany tells us that she never got to learn her mother's dumpling recipe which was passed down from her mother's mother and she's like she never offered and i never asked and the mom's like oh she's taking all the dumplings that they just made us like. Oh this one isn't good because this this has like the liquid part on the does this one's going to open so i'll have to redo that wench high main. All those ones such a dumping so gracious like okay. Well i'm going to go soon because won't be eating with you. Guys like won't be any. Ross dad's working when she when he gets home from work. I gotta cookham dinner. She's like well. I didn't realize that data was incapable of feeding himself. So you don. Your dad was a student that. Oh honey your dad. Only got into columbia. Not cornell. columbia is a great school. You would say that. wouldn't you. Well you want to take some time. Thanks to with you. She goes well. I could just make some more at home. It's like okay. What are you wonder woman go home. And make a whole new thing of dumpling. No not just an easy thing to make. I know they really aren't so tiffany is like very crushed and so another eating dumplings and Grace is saying talking about how you know. When when tiffany came over to america. That greece was doing her masters and that she was She had she had to take little tiffany to the library. Every single day whilst during the masters and she basically just sit there and just like read she was literally raised books and Angry bring like a comforter and tiffany would sleep in the library on the comforter a little cubbyhole etc. Yeah and which is you know better than my better than a bowling alley. Okay that count. Your blessings tiffany though. So she's decided this is it. We're going to have this talk right. So she's like you know when you look at the girls this at this age. Does it remind you of the age. I came to america. And she's like yes. Good times like. I was really hard actually member when i slept on the floor at the library. So i'm so proud of you. That actually i mean you were always working. She goes well keep it. We also spent time together and mattie goes. I wasn't there right. No she goes no. You weren't even a twinkle in your dad's is she goes. Hey how does the baby come anyway. This is my mind. Seen my seen mex- next week. I teach you about babies this week. I deal with library trauma. Okay go play with that. You gotta be minus on their now. Go down to the wine cellar. Until i got to come back up so tiffany's like i feel like we missed out on so much mother daughter connection like you're just owing some busy and she's like no. We hung out every weekend. We went to the library. Sometimes we go into walk and we had the flash cards mom okay. So we won't walk. The flash card mean i did love those flash cards. God i love those flash cards so great. That doesn't fit with my story. Anyway the point is you're mean to me. Yeah but i mean listen even when you went away to cornell you still came home just in the summer the yeah. That's normal. Kids come home from school as she has. Mom moving out of the house at fifteen isn't normal just for kids who were selected to go to college at fifteen. It's it is normal. And that's a good thing and she's like i guess. My academic man is a good thing but it came at the expense of mother daughter. Time and i just feel like i missed out on opportunities to me together and i'm just like wow slow down and angry yes i'm just like you made with better grades but i'm more i'm just like you and i i guess i'm just like more focused on work which i don't know if you've ever learned how to be that way you know. How is your four day schedule going. anyway. I'm just very focused on work that you just always working. One of us is good at dumplings. The other one's not forgot what i was talking about. Just kidding i always remember talking about. I'm a good student of myself. Said to is like every time i call you. He's working and i'm always working. But like i always feel like no matter what i deal. I'm letting you down grisly. That's not true you don't let me down. You just disappointed me. That's because whoever said that to us that you thinking all the time you're always picking on me. Give me a hug you little leaky dumpling. I like my mother is never helped me. Never said she loved me. Never said she's proud of me and greece's like oh. I don't feel that way as she goes in for hogging us. I love you is a crowd of you i love you. I'm telling you grace knew what the fuck was coming this season. The mamadee called her ass the second. She the tiffany got on. This show was like listen here. You know that acu race. She's about to try and make you look like a goddamn idiot on television. Here's what you do you hugger you. Say you love her. So you're proud of her. Give the keys to something. Just tell her. it's a company. And then like i don't know mcdonald's or something like that. Okay so tiffany cries is actually sweet. Seeing it's actually labor subjects but it's actually a lovely scene and the daughter's crying one of her daughter's this crying and she hugs them. 'cause they're crying so cute. 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Marijuana and Children

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Marijuana and Children

"Okay try it again. And we're going and three to one take twelve to dates up roads. Ajay say do boom. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the show. This is amid dominic. Come to you with another episode of the ib show done said that i was gonna interesting stuff but okay. Wow this guy's name listen to their own show or listening to me. Forget the show so yeah no just got We'll we'll we'll we'll delve into some interesting slash random topics over here to just showing dominic that there is. Apparently this is actually brought to me by one of my boys chris. This morning sent me a text on this. There's a company called what chris. Ps tro the autonomous pizzeria. So this is the pizza vending machine that makes your pizza in three minutes with no people know nothing and they're trying to get a bunch of market share and apparently pizza market is fifty four billion dollars. Who don't know well by twenty twenty three but still at it. We bought that much pizza in this country. But there's a whole thing going on there so i thought that was interesting. Would you guys dominic okay. Not ready care house majority whip. Oh god with visit cool. Whip out there. He's over just google or youtube cool cool school with cool whip is embedded into the national products continue yard. It's such a good little skits. It is house. Majority whip james clyborn democrat south carolina. He of the he of the he's the one who essentially made biden president If you recall he that's when biden turn around his campaign. When south carolina was from he declared biden is one given sure ain't gonna do so especially because of no joke. Biden became president okay. He won the democrat nominee because of clever a qualified immunity. Because he was asked about this. We've discussed this on a previous episode. Qualified immunity is a legal principle that grants government officials performing discretionary functions immunity from civil suits so essentially. Like what happened to me episode. You're listening to what you doing so there. Oh my god. He's doing the episode. Five we the whole skits yash damaged a long skid. Yeah we'll put it up on the apron now you got me putting the preposition before things sure without coop. I mean cool. Whip you'll koo koo koo Cool whip with you saying we're putting so much emphasis on the h lee talk about just seeing it could whip you. On pi pi say whip whip. I'll say cool. Whip whip cool whip hip cool whip coup whip. You're reading hair. Whip so essentially when i got beat by the police episode fired. Check it out. I can sue the officers personally. Sue the police department. Because of qualified immunity it's a legal doctrine which prevents was actually an extra shield of buffer for police officers right knowing that they can't get sued civilly for their indiscretions which is yes. Oh police reform bills are trying to end. That clyburn came out and said he's in favor of compromising and not including removal of qualified immunity in a bill. In order to proceed. He literally said if if you don't get qualified immunity now then we'll come back and try to get it later but i don't want to see us throughout a good bill because we can't get a perfect bill. It's not a good bill. If you don't remove the say it's not a good bill well and it. I miss going down that path to this whole thing two. You've heard about the whole wondering cop situation right no okay. So in essence. The idea is that if a policeman or a police person. I don't know what the but the police april police person. You have to drink water all over. Your face is wrong with you anyway. If an officer the law were to be put on probation or quote unquote loser. Position of based on something they did they could quite easily just moved to another division within the police department and continue along. It's called the wandering place. It's a situation where you don't actually get fired. You can just kind of get retest if you will also even more so i. I'd never heard that term but it makes sense even when you get fired. The coffee get hired other police as yet because they don't do correct you can still be a policeman in a bunch of places an officer. Sorry and a bunch of places or you can just get another position. Say can if you have a job in finance you get fired you can pick up into the finance job but finance for fraud cannot if i got working fine as i got caught for fraud or you know. Any any nefarious dealings would not be horrible but continue sorry off so yeah so that was there. And i don't know why keep my throat but oh a random note. I got an email. Yes adversity miami regarding becoming a mentor. I don't know if i mentor material. I literally debated sign up for this. But i don't know what i would mentor. Somebody on like. I don't think i've done anything that warrants mentorship and i don't know if you feel that you are a mentor material. I'm not so sure about that. You're miserable yet. Kids technically you are. You realize is what the hell's wrong with you move. I'm still trying to figure out if you're a parent. Had no father would process the good. The good. I'm so i'm i'm a loss at work. I don't know where you're going here. Yeah being the best father possible to my children. How about that. Okay all right fine but you realize you were a mentor to them right. You're aware of how that works. Okay independent when you wanna be. Okay all right. I just don't think i'm ready for this My children are college. Age you know. Yeah well valid. I mean you can still give them advice and how to how to go forth and be good citizens and get what they want out of life and so on and so forth right. I don't think i should do it. You should be the guinea pig the f. What i offer anybody you'll find out. He quickly got nothing offering a really sad situation for me. But so that would just that was just an aside but want to get into entertainment so real quick so yesterday so whenever he does this by the way it came out so this was on may tenth just for those of you know there was a big push back against the hollywood foreign press association. The h. fpa association behind golden globes and. It stemmed and i talked about this. Many many an episode. Go in essence. What happens is they have no diversity within the ranks. They have been a group that's been said to have been in essence paid off to do or give a promising reviews and nominations to projects. That don't deserve it And i feel bad in in this this past year specifically there was a show called embassy in paris now. I feel bad for over two worked at area paris because nobody saw the compared to show the should've gotten nations and didn't and we knew why. Emily harris got nominations. But that's because the flu them all and they bought him all this stuff all the judges and so on all the members i say and but i feel bad who worked in that show. 'cause they're just using their show was. This is the garbage show that you should never have gotten an award. So i feel bad for those guys but so anyway this group is there in. This group has zero diversity. This group says that it's working on creating diverse a diverse environment so on so forth. Anyway i don't know who triggered this but now everyone. The grandmother jumped on the bandwagon meaning. Nbc was the station that aired the golden globes. They've backed out. They're not gonna hear the golden globe next year amazon. Said it's not going to do with him. The golden globes netflix. He might said the same thing. I think even Hbo came out. A turner came out the same thing or one. Sorry and older umbrellas. Tom cruise return to three or four golden globes. Like everybody is jumping in on this thing that we're not about this. Golden globes lack of lack of diversity aspect now. This puts me in a conundrum. Because i want to come out and say conveniently woke but i don't know convenient we'll versus people finally realizing like i don't know how to phrase this one right and this is this but this on the positive side. This speaks to what i've been saying for a long time. Whereby if you want to affect change you have to take things. Sadly you gotta take what matters away from the people perpetrating the ill deeds and this scenario. That is the asia. Nego- look we're just. We're i mean we're not gonna support you anymore so get your you know. Get your shit together and so now. It's on them to get their shit together. Which is i mean if they're not. They weren't motivated before the dam. Sure motivated now. You know what. I'm saying like no place. Air all the major studios in anything that you can't have a golden globes have no shows from. Hbo and netflix. What does it golden globes. Then you know what i'm saying. So it's one of these things and then you have no. Cbs nbc you. Have none of these people out there. So now all of a sudden guess what i guarantee there's going to be quite a few people on the ranks and minorities in the ranks in no time flat. Which by the way would have taken a long time. So this is how you legitimately can affect change In any scenario but it irks me that people are. That's what the george thing is a very annoying thing to me because many productions of state and said we'll use this. This will use this platform to speak the truth. Bs nothing's going to come from that guy. Sorry and you knew that already too but you gotta do you for whatever your goal is but yeah if you think you're you're you think you staying there and still paying taxes still producing projects in georgia is going to help the cost in the future. Sorry it's not. That's my soapbox rent. And i know tom cruise at three golden globes. They caught me off guard. I don't even know if they're four but ice. I assume vanilla sky but there's also vanilla sky is a pretty good fan. Yes yeah it's a pretty good film. it was. It was definitely something that was it. Was tom cruise. Not being the he wasn't the he wasn't constant cocky. Tom cruise throughout the whole thing. You know he was. He was just very rare. Yeah that's what i'm saying. He was even just for a moment in the feature film. So it's worth checking out. I mean it's not amazing but we're checking out but yeah i had no idea any of this stuff was going on and then i saw that and it caught me off guard so i was like wow and in hollywood were very. We are very big. There's there's the even did a hollywood reporter did a study. Here's what the study found by the way quote unquote prefer. Hollywood movies with diverse casts. Study find like. Are you serious. You needed to study to tell you this and knowing that but it's also hollywood padding hollywood on the back which is what that bothers me. Hey we put. We put a couple of minorities in this situation. Here patterson the back. Hey we started all these bypass situations patterson the back speaking of we had a g tv keyboarding every friday by the way. We've never announced that. Every friday depending on the usually sometime between newnan two o'clock try to make it noon. We do a quick call. Friday freestyle where each select the topic or two and chat for about sixty seconds. If i see the second siemian four minutes. Obviously we're we're we're a talkative bunch if you're on instagram. Every friday check that out on the show or you can watch us later on. We put it. No it's not a real this. Is that a real racist to no. It's not a resort. I'm positive what you call them. It's just video noble when it's done how somebody access that. It's inner feet. Yeah but then but then the feet only have like sixty seconds. And you've got to click on story would only have technology the you exactly touch it and it works really. Yeah all right idea so anyway check out on our feet. And then there's a tab also specifically for itt okay there as well but easier just in the general feed. It's there every friday within four of them so far check it out. Yeah so okay. What the hell was i going with this. I don't know i don't know whether you hear. The chipotle is raising their minimum wage to fifteen bucks. How about the bring by the frigging case india. Let's talk about that people case it. Yeah you can order okay. I found a petition yesterday. Which i signed numbers. Numbers partitions been around for traction. Certainly that working people find petition. Dominic people also city avec us to be able to show up. I realized it wasn't on the menu a secret menu in and out. Everybody got it. They just make it for not gonna do never had a case. That didn't even know the case. It's really because they're cheese is good and the way they go into. It's really good so other they stop. You have to order it online to be four dollars and something like close to eight dollars because you have to order it through the app and then you get three sides. I don't forget one. Three sides i wanna case idea and now they folded up differently where it doubled up and it's just weird and if you don't time it right it's not warm and it's just weird hold up so they're silly version of the case. It is a version of the case. But he's not the case it is. It's probably sixty percent more expensive. Okay and you can. You can't just be like driving like you know what. Stop in and get a case. You didn't know you have to. You have to order through the app use. The app says fifteen minutes to the unaware of how to make a case of on the fly like they need prep time. I've been trying to figure out why they did this. I don't know if you have an you know new. You haven't asked them november literally asking propaganda note. I'm saying i've amazing. You haven't even ask somebody when you're they're going pull up. You can't make make yesterday right now. They no the first time it happened. It was about two weeks after this. Change happen as listen. I'm here all the time. i'm sure they've seen you look at me. Was a different vibe. Anyway we're on our rent. No did know those who think holdovers at your favorite fast food. Yes no doubt. Cipolla hundred percent really. It's less now that eat meat. I don't go as much and now that a frigging took the case india in the regular vibes even less. But yeah my kid's favorite to gonna take him anywhere else. Because even had mcdonald's not burger king no wendy's yes or the wendy's zoo a checkers chick for chick-fil-a i tell them all the time if you're gonna eat crappy good tasting crap. Mcdonald's is not good days and grab i mean. Some of the things on the menu are good taste. No mcdonald's is mkx is really good breakfast pancakes with egg in the middle and bacon. It's a whole it's great to lay is good tasting crap. Kid i mean is good but okay. So i like their breakfast biscuits. But they're very dry. Like like. I mean i mean it's just it's biscuit and then fried chicken like there's no moisture and i think he needs to figure that out because there is no solace no nothing and you just feel like i feel like i'm just kidding i'm just cringe up losing all the moisture in my face when i take a bite it does say good though is your favorite food is what i don't know actually so i was trying to think about. I don't have an answer. I do love good taco bell. I'm not gonna lie to you was great. I just had this talk workers. We're always talking about this. One guy said he doesn't he doesn't eat it as much because he only liked to do it when he was eat it when he was drunk. Drink as much like the people are saying tacos. Great anytime that's pretty good. There's one on the way the only problem so the reason. I haven't gone to talk about recently because they got rid of the mexican pizza much your situation you talked about on the show and really pissed me off and i haven't gone back since i'm not gonna let you sign a petition. Yeah there's gotta be one out there. Beautyrest guarantees got more than sixty. Some people don't get though. I just want us to a phone to wrong market lady whoever's doing a taco bell cantina yet brother that's h. i. In fort lauderdale. Oh but there's no mexican pizza. There's no point going. So cantina is the exact menu if you can drink. Yeah and it's much nicer looking at is the ambiance bradley and so in new york go. There's one they opened one right behind my office building on the back end of the block. You can't do that and expect me to not go to talk about and two doors down aaa. So i would stagger between the two right and you get the taco bell. You go into the cantina and you order it. And then they've got a little like a macaw. That has your name and when you're orders coming up etc and then you can see them preparing it so you sume a little cleaner etc and then you have these wooden tables and they have outlets sue people sit there on their phone and their computer working cipolla anti taco bell cantina thing. That's a bit much by the way it's not starbucks do not work in a taco bell. Cantina judge you hardly for doing that. But wow yes. I'm putting it out there if you're somebody who's sending whole day working in its alcoholic. Antena one you're gonna smoke kind of funky you get out of that joint. It's just inevitable because it's a close as close space but with that being said you should have a good check it out. Haven't been elitist guy over here. I'm the hanging out to link dry. Forty five minutes and the realities. I'll do it. The house is not not disclosing where i'm surprised. Reportedly isn't of your favorite because of the rice aspect so we live on chicken kitchen. Here is the reality to poli for a long period of time. I know where you're going with this. Where am it had the effect causing a rumbling of the belly that it wasn't ready for the work environment so situation where i was like something is missing. I kind of trees down to maybe the black beans doing some one to get the rice. The salon rice throwing all the fixing. It's still good. Yeah hold the chiba. Your bowl person. Right see i'm a burrito person. I'm not a burrito person. Yeah because the bowl just grew up on chicken kitchen. Yeah college years post college. People may not know that it was basically yellow arrives with chick chop chicken input very very salty chopped chicken by the way curry sauce on it. More salt in there to this was a college staple at um and post um we lived on it. I lived on. it's so much that it actually weirded my wife out. When i got all the girls there might be wife then girlfriend. I got all the girls at christmas gifts. From like bath and body works like essential body laws and so imagine imagine dude walking into joy and handing a bath and body were gifts to the young ladies behind the counter. Because i i literally went there every single day. It's not an exaggeration. Every single day. I went there so obsessed my chess and now you're dealing with with with aaa. No i go there a few days a week. I was going. I can't say that the many times have been your house A couple times default. Because we're gonna get lunch as a and i even know why where from eligible thirty times and thirty three days to win this like cipolla or or know every day elliott my bet. And then on thursdays. I'd have it for breakfast. Y because that's the wake up early on thursdays but you can have risen. I mean what does it even mean you. Coffee adobo by did two dinners and then have the second dinner for breakfast wowed. Yeah you are a strange cat thirty times in thirty three days at aaa to win this catering thing okay for the house so would that i would get you poli if it was here pretty frequently in my neighborhood. There's a lime fresh instead. Don't love it very mediocre. There live anywhere. There's not a nearby this guy lives in prime suburbia by default by. I mean i'm twenty million. If i moved to another city if i moved you would eventually live in suburbia and another city which will also have a jabballah like that's your target market for poli right. Suburbia is worship. Strive to speaking of I need to stop seeing speaking. Don't think and i'm always in speaking of which really doesn't thrive prisons. yep california. evidently in the last. I mean that is the worst transition ever just say. I'm transitions another topic now. In the last forty years. It's a little miss. Misinforming misleading misleading stat. In the last forty years of california bill twenty two prisons and one college however california itself didn't build all prisons. Many of them are federal prisons right so california's building less but still california built more prisons in colleges but overall there were twenty two prisons built in california whether federal or state. That's just a disgusting kind of synopsis. Of what the essence of america is it's locking people up and not educating people and i give them cipolla. Yeah no that's i. I didn't realize that that's pretty significant. You know we talked about it on. tv. I don't think that's where i was going about the the phone call situation. I'll go on my little rent for sixty seconds in prisons. The user as costs both for inmates and their loved ones and friends to communicate with one another. It's it's crazy what these private companies are charging. You know i had a friend saying yeah. Well the money is used to fund the food and the press. No it's not. It's private companies using it for their benefit and it's it's it's ruining the fabric of the familial relationship even so between parents and their children imagine a mom or dad not being able to talk to their child and that child is growing up you know lacking that verbal that critical verbal communication It ruins the bond and these kids are growing up without these relationships. The prisoners themselves are coming out. You know depressed health issues not having this things and it just. It's crazy leads to more crime. So hypocritical about wanted to stop crime. No we don't wanna stop crime. We don't because we could. We could lessen crime I'm not laughing at the situation. By the way. A dummy brought this up on our situation and i agree in the sense that it is. I mean it's crazy that you make no money and yet you have to pay for all these things in click calls me to collect whole. I think i've had to do at once. And even then. I was a photo. That's expensive like so the the the burden on the person receiving the calls also another problem. Right 'cause right so you're just doubling down on. Hey you have no money but pay more for this people. Say if you can't do the time don't do the crime. It's way to simplified for that. Because again we need to the goal should be to rehabilitate people and make them productive members of society. Not even counting the fact that many people locked up a are innocent and be gonna commonsense. Shouldn't be locked up to the extent they are but let's bypass that and just say we want people to come out and be productive members of society so they're not burdens on society and be limiting the chance of recidivism where my big word finally got it. I use whereby they aren't committing crime again. We don't want obstacles that lead to higher probability of recidivism kabul all right on a letter note former miami beach mayor. Philip levine or levine quote unquote unleashed marijuana. Smoking that has created street party instead of people in venues in miami beach because he's trying to the essence he wants might be used to turn back the clock and the party of two. Am which envy the miami. It doesn't exist there. Hasn't been at two. Am purview miami. In my life he wants me he wants to go back to his former mayor has guy was. He made a denise. you look like bewilderment. They're gonna make a deer in headlights. Yes what are you talking about. I believe he talking. I mean that was that was that was so inside baseball. There and i didn't know any of that but either way. I can't even read this. Give the miami herald. I'm not a paywall scribe. no i'm not paying for the show. Big accounts we have o- on a side note. This popped up all over everything yesterday. So apparently what's his face. Ben affleck and jennifer lopez or ben. Back in montana right. Hold up now. So how many jews has how many like she just been through all the but she's untarnished. She's like she's really okay. Go on no. I'm just saying. I'm just always like it's like i'm giving a process by the way because there are there are many dudes who are quote unquote womanisers or people who just don't get don't get married or whatever and they have these in space that is and they get props and whatever whatever. She's the one who's literally untarnished in the opposite womanizer manager. It's not really a men. it's been like five dudes in thirty years as we know of. But let's let's say it's them. I mean i guess all right then back i just i don't i picture is doing what every man has done forever and holding down and still being sought after in that situation. Let's flip it if you don't know but i'm jay. I'm like hey props you lady and always the holding down by the way. I didn't know that was the thing and it popped up over my my my wife pops over my stuff. Yesterday its benefactor. Yeah but that was a that. I didn't care about it when it was the thing and also when that happened he made the worst movies ever which was the one he did with her too. And i forget the name of the film because it was that bad. Geely own. My god you you see you sure. How did i know. I don't know why that's why hence my did you see it situation. But apparently not oh. Here's here's an interesting one Stigma marijuana and i was having this debate with not debate. Discussion brother-in-law jugs like my kids. Though we'd as being drug not from us. I dunno homerton. We'd yes marijuana drug satan. Both words the drug. Come off. we're going back and forth as being a stigma and my was less and less because not all drugs are bad. Give me a good drug marijuana's call prescription drugs if not abuse. You look cabin okay. Continue okay yeah. I guess technically advil over the counter. It's an over kind of drug. The do they call it drugs though it is. We think about prescription drugs. The pharmacies back in the day used to say you drugstore drug skjei drugs now with a drug is something that changes the physiological. I believe i believe it. Changed the physiological about yourself medical doctor this guy spend a lot of in mexico so alcohol is a drug yes. That's what i'm saying. I was thinking that has a negative connotation worse drug yes then marijuana over time however what point. Two kids okay. Arcades people's kids in general see them drinking parents drinking. I know for a fact. Most kids see their kids drinking and most kids don't see their and i heard you can see their parents drinking but most kids don't see their parents smoking weed if they do correct of course a lot their changing every time but yeah overwhelming majority would know their kids drinking. They see ads on tv. They go to sporting events things of that nature. I wonder when that changes because my opinion clearly. Alcohol is the worse of the two drugs as the stigma changes as future guests. Mark on the show to discuss we'd we'd we'd discuss that sigma change and i'm just curious how the and i'm curious to know for the audience. How this if they are the same belief that alcohol is worse if not why and if they have kids how they talk to their kids or when do they plan to talk to their kids about weed and the interaction for example. Are you still hiding your weed. I was gonna say. I think many parents are even if you think. I'll cosworth erect. i'm a nonsmoker. But i believe that. And i don't have kids either but i would. I would venture to guess that the majority are smoking in secret right. And maybe i'm not. I'm not gonna ask you to tell us what you guys do. I don't know how they do business. But i'm just saying i'm going to espouse. The people do that because doing secret. Yeah a there's still a stigma be perhaps confusion between cigarettes which are different and we'd and then also for fear this without the fear out of having my kids. Is smoking too young. I wouldn't care if they're smoking when they're older like college age after that but smoking too young. I definitely don't want that All right age are you pro or anti drinking age of twenty one. Am i pro the law or my my kids drinking before two different questions. Let's start with the law primarily. Let the low yes. I'm cool with it. Okay and then kidding early. So then what's the person law. I'd rather most i. I'd rather more restrictions on the age at which people can can drink. It is usually goes against what i believe but if there was age was younger. My fear that with alcon how readily accessible. It is that there could be in. This could be ignorant on me. There could be an overwhelming amount of consumption and widespread and traffic instances in debts and dui's and things of that nature but quite frankly we don't make your before we get there maybe doesn't stop them because laws like many laws restrictive laws don't prevent people from committing crimes. Maybe this doesn't stop. But maybe does i mean it's gotta be hard to even get fake. Id's now i remember it was much easier back in the print them at home and stuff. It's gotta be much harder. There's guys fagadu was the best high entity security security. The car dating finna wallet made it more. Legit was like your cova card. It was that size. Whoever designed it dominic decided that. Hey it shouldn't because that would just make sense but either way the was massive. It was ridiculous but no behold up. You're saying that. But you're saying that okay because we grew up in jamaica where there were technically. I think it's changed now. It's a little different but nobody cared. Drinking is pretty much see above the bar. You know i can see above the bar so recently start but yeah so so case in point and it was odd though because our parents knew. We were drinking to known that i wasn't drinking. It's my point. I didn't drink i didn't drink forever. You didn't drink to college. I didn't drink. I drank in college really. That's when i started drinking the early days drink fifteen sixteen did not drink know good for you. Know i'm ozark has no. I was just broke. That's all there was no moral uprising. Whatever no add this lincoln spent it on the liquor have it. That's all so. I was like all right this week. Economic can still go out and not play the game and then became a thing was like oh medicine drink and i was going to be that guy so that's just double down on it so i'm actually okay with my parents. My parents my kids wanted to have a drink at home There's a lot of things like environments. I can control I'd be much more comfortable with but that's my because it's not just them. It's the environment around them and what. I can't control what they can't control. Even they're in a situation with other people are drunk doing things in highschool stupid things were. Unfortunately they can't control it and bad things can happen right I'm just curious how things change over time because you know. We also have the stigma of reindeer here before the fbi used to think of of the negroes and their marijuana smoking and their devil. This and that it's still now. Why all the way back to to hoover. Yeah it's going now and a lot of the stuff in prison. A lot of things people are locked up for personal use and consumption. And we'll get you know we could get into the the bullshit. We want the opioid crisis crisis. And is that because you know who does it affect already individuals and it should be. It's a it's a should be a crisis but it it's not an oppressive situation like marijuana sticky and all these people locked up for nonviolent crimes. The other difference with the opioid crisis is currently going on is. If you've noticed they've latched onto a quick villain right that the fam. I'm forgetting their name. Good lord who's a family the big crap. They have their name on museums over new york. Too and their name is is drawn out. There were all either way. They found this fee. There is a family who is now the face of all things negative in regards to the situation so it's easy for people to point the finger and when you can point the finger people like to do so and then it makes life a lot easier. And that's the reality versus the other stuff. It's country x. or y. drug dealer extra. Why but you don't have a direct finger. That's why but dealers would go to jail because you can put the figure people want to be able to like. That's the reason and it's never that but you want to have this should make people feel good about themselves and in this situation family sackler. How have you not heard about the sackler family. Do you not listen to any. What kind of news barca's using. Good what kind of broadcast or you're listening to. Npr not cnn. You've never heard about the sackler ambulance car usable favor. Even is serious billion a year. Give serious still haven't made it but you still have series. That's the thing i mean. Xm and serious. But you have a mobile phone with podcasts and music coming all the time. Why would we need sirius. Xm i mean i. I'm confused by the by the business model thrives. Why would we need empire live. No who is live. Npr podcast you know. I listen to npr. Apparently not he said over the sackler family which has been brought up multiple times. But neither here nor there. Why are you interested in. When he's when he won music you have spotify. Who whenever and your phone curated. I guarantee there is a podcast network. Not podcast music network on spotify. Would've listen to you for the whole time and not have to pay serious by serious if you want to have us on. Your shoe will gladly. But i'm just saying i just again. I still see the value playing there again. I'm not even the car that you are even the car that often anymore. Okay all right do you. Pod says for in podcast. I do not. I believe it's performance. You can't see believe it is. I believe it's performance on has what she said nickname. I think so. We should have you to bring it up. You should definitely do some research ahead on demand on. I assuming his performance. Oh my lord perspective. What is it. it's gotta be. You know we still don't know cliffhanger let us know of you know be be better. Catch you guys over. Order spread the word. Follow follow again instagram. Every friday go check out the old ones at the show. Look them up there. They're they're quick there. Two three four five minutes. Friday freestyles donald spaghetti might be camera angles. Weird not yet is weird people talk.

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Oral Tips and (Not) Faking Orgasms w/ The LadyGang

Sex With Emily

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Oral Tips and (Not) Faking Orgasms w/ The LadyGang

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How sexes changed during the pandemic tips for amazing nipple. Play ways to give a killer blow job. I always say oral sex on a penis but hey they asked for it. We also talked about the different kinds of desire the best ways to clean your sex toys my most common listener questions and what happens when. Tsa pulls out your bag full of vibrators side note. I just got back from vacation. And i did drop my nipple clamps in the las vegas airport. I also answer your questions. About how birth control can affect your sex drive hot. Let your partner know you've been faking orgasms. Say no to fago and listener's experience hurting his penis during doggy style. Alright intentions with emily for each episode. I start off by setting an intention. And i encourage you to do the same. So when you're listening what do you want to get out of this episode. How could it help you mind. Tension is for you to hear some other. Women share their own vulnerabilities. So you feel less alone all right. Mother's day is this weekend. And i have created the sexiest mother's day gift guide. You'll ever read 'cause mothers masturbate to they. Do i swear. Dorothy donald vibrators. But we've got cbd best salts by four if you haven't seen these smell the tried them it's amazing so many sex toys we've got some really great discounts so whether you're shopping for a mom or your mom shopping for herself which i highly encourage you can just check out our website sex with emily dot com and check out the latest gift. Guide all right. Let's talk about your questions. I know a lot of you one as questions and you do you. Email me or you. Dm me but now. I've a brand new hotline. It's five nine. Talk sex or five five nine eight two five five seven three nine five nine talks taxes. Easy so here. You'll just leave me a voicemail with your questions and if you could sense we might answer it on the podcast and player message but remember how ever you ask me your question whether it's five nine talk sex or you email me sect for them dot com slash as emily. All i ask is that you include your name. You can totally change your name your gender identity location age and how you listen to. The show. can't wait to hear from you all right. Everyone enjoy this episode today. My guess i welcomed the lady gang. There are popular award winning podcast and brand for women by women featuring kelty night. Becca tobin and jack vanik their book act like a lady is a new york times bestseller you can find more about them at lady dot com and on all social media the lady gang. Welcome to the show. Hi we haven't had good sex in four years. We we came. We need a refresher emily. Like custer church. I'm in kelly. Jack becca i mean i. I always said the intention for every show. He's i say what does she. I'm sitting tension. And i'll say for example. I want you guys to learn on the show how to communicate better and then i asked you know intention. You said intention likely it happened. Do you guys have an intention like. Is there something that you'd like to to to learn impart to the listeners. Every time we talk to you or listen to your podcast i think. Oh my gosh. I am so normal because so many women have the same questions and concerns regarding sex but they don't have a place to talk openly about them so i guess my intention would be like to help women feel less alone with this conversation and sex in general i was going to say. That's like our whole mantra for the lady. Yang as you know making other women feel us loan and we do it in so many different ways but talking about sex. We talk about sex but not in an in-depth the way like we do when you're around so it's just it's amazing because it like really alliance with everything that we're talking about so agree with that and then also i feel like everybody after this past like we just like need a little spice so figuring out at that first little step is for some extra spice. Yeah and my intention is to learn something to bring to the wardrobe of she wants nipple tussle. Baya kucha no and every time we talked. I listen i've had nipple clamps v. least density nipple every on the face of the planet chris is so into a nipple and he's always like trying. I'm like if you press harder. It will not work. They are good intention. I was to purchase something at the end of this episode. I wanna the thing is that we gotta go out and get your all in relationships right now. Buried in relationships kelsey and jack. Last time i saw you were dating and the ads and all the things all the things. No i've been with my partner for almost three years now. So jake good so your all your relationships and so i've a question for you. So there's this study that just came out men say sex's better during the covid. Nineteen pandemic women beg to differ so it says guys are saying that the lockdown enhance their sex lives and ladies. Don't feel that knocking boots with their boo. Whatever says during better fifty percent say pandemic sectors great seventy one say that it did nothing for their sex life so i just want to know how has it been for all of you. I've discovered something about myself because sometimes like you've said it in the past where women have to feel connected to their partners to be turned on and they have to ask how your day is. My husband does that more now with covid. I actually like my husband more as a person now From covid but my sex life took a little bit of a downturn and i think it's because part of my recipe for sexiness is for me to feel sexy and i haven't been putting on makeup. I haven't been washing my hair. I haven't been putting on pants that even zip and so that's what the missing link is. So i've actually been able to really pinpoint so it's been helpful. I mean have. I gotten out of my sweat pants as often as i should know but at least now i know pretty baby steps roles little. If we don't feel sexy. How do we expect our partners to want to be with us. When we don't we're not being loving ourselves. Yeah but i also think the difference in this study. If you were to look into my household is that the pandemic. You're around each other more so you might be having more of the quantity zacks like you. Can't you can't get away from each other. There's no excuse like you're so busy gonna work trip. Whatever like you're going to have the sex but if a woman is not feeling sexy to what becca said that level of pleasure like probably having more sex. I don't know that. I'm having like best sex of my life. I feel closer to my husband. But i'm not like oh my god and it's mostly because i'm wearing a lot of things in sweatpants and eating poorly but not like i'm not. I'm not taking care of myself in that way. You know like exactly it's like. I think it's a mental thing. We're probably. They're just happy that they're having lots of sex. You're like wait a minute. It was supposed to be a romantic trip to bermuda What about you jack. Well this is the thing with my boyfriend. And i he musician and he is in the normal times. Pre covid gone all the time so for the most part. I mean we'd see each other little chunks we binge each other and then i wouldn't see him for weeks kind of what our relationship was before covid and we have spent every single second of every single day together for the past year and honestly it's been great like like said i like love him and enjoy him at more than i ever thought that i would because the few times that we went on vacations. I wanted to kill him. So i'm like well. This is what it's going to be when we're locked down together for a year. It's going to be bad but yeah very very surprising and pretty great. I'm so happy for you. That makes because. I didn't know where that was going. I'm like okay. That's weird golfer. That usually that works distance. You don't know yeah well our whole lifestyles were like completely different so it was like our first. You know experience of actually having like a normal life that you would see your partner every single day. Yeah but yeah. I know it's great. Let's say you're sounds like it. It was more frequent. Maybe for all of you. Or i think mine was about the same amount the same amount. But i was less confident in my vagina. I'll tell you that. Because i don't have any professionals around like like any of that like i. Just it's you know everything i need. I need a nice nailed to feel sexy to look and see the grey hairs at my temples to feel sexy. So it's like it's a whole packet. What do you guys know you've done work to feel like when you feel the sexiest. After a few drinks. I was to kill as a female viagra. it's so as after a few margaritas. You can feel any sexier than in that moment. Yeah it's true it. This is women. I'm always saying how do we feel sexy because usually if we're feeling sexy someone else is gonna find a sexy right. Yep i mean for me. It's like when. I'm taking care of myself when i'm working out when i'm doing therapy and i mentally there when i physically have my pieces together like arm eyebrows. Am i tand like so many things. Yeah the other any other questions you wanted to ask me. I feel a lot of guilt and shame for not giving enough below jobs. How can i make it fun and feel less like a job. It is can be job. Would if you made it fun like flavored lube. Have you have this flavored lube. That tastes amazing. It's literally salted caramel. They won that is meant chocolate. Chip ooh and it tastes usually have it here at my desk. I'd be more than just the other day very like a flavor. They might have one of those but playing with it. And you're like kitty. This sounds really silly because there are a lot of flavor leaves that are terrible. But this one system joe. That's just help me to not give a blowjob without excess like it tastes good. Your mouth is slippery. So i'm trying to give you some like spitting i never have enough saliva anyway. I just have like the lube there. So if it's flavored you're like oh i more likely to do it and you remember your can use a hand in a blowjob and i think it doesn't have to be as big of a deal like is there a time where you as in the shower together or you just like shower. The shower is a tricky one. Though 'cause then you might start drowning while you're down there with as true. I don't know if that's true. That is true and deers thing. I don't know if he what your sex's like and when it's starting to happen when there's a point where you could just surprise him with a blow. W what like. Here's your sign. Maybe there's like one night like after the you could say i'm going to do it and then you feel like wouldn't feel guilty anymore and you could do something a little bit said even if it's not flavor have something you're by that makes it easier. You can use your toy there or any toy little low setting any vibrator on their shaft on their balls could feel amazing and then it's quick. Quick quick is what we believe can feel good. I'm just trying to quicken dernie. What are your thoughts about the flashlight. In general i like what the flesh latest masturbation see for penis and it's supposed to feel like the real deal so it's the mimic of china. I'm putting side. And you just use it for masturbation and i think people love it like i feel like men are down but sometimes i was like. Oh it's is it. A bad thing to do is no. It's like it's a masterpiece. It's a good time. Add to car. We're gonna take a quick break but we come back. We're getting into how to clean your sex toys. It matters and i talk about sex every day but one thing i haven't talked about often is pregnancy and conception. Did you know that one out of every six couples will have trouble conceiving. I feel like i've known so many couples who have struggled with this. 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Traditional testing with your doctor can cost over a thousand dollars. But modern fertility only cost a hundred and fifty nine dollars to get the same information and right now. Modern fertility is offering sex with only listeners. Twenty dollars off. That means your test will only cost one hundred and thirty nine dollars. Just go to modern fertility dot com slash sex with emily and get twenty dollars off your test today that modern fertility dot com slash sex with emily. What is your favorite way to clean a sex toy. What's the best the best way to do it. And i'm glad you're asking that because it's actually very important to do it because you can get a bacteria infection and whenever wants to do it. 'cause you're like i just had an orgasm ongoing sleep. The easiest way a damp cloth with a little bit of soap like like wetted wash cloth and just wipe it down. And you're fine. There's also toy cleaner that you just re on it. That's easy and then there is something they make anymore. But or if it's available still it's called the uv and it stores clean and sanitize your toys and it takes like twenty minutes. You can also to your phone and your makeup russia's really cool. I'm but i think there were like back order during the my parents bought them because of covid they did will not for the catholic. I love your parents is want to show you. I just looked up womanizer. I have to show you like this is like there's so many more models right now. Oh there's one with a goal in your body. you're oh. I never know when the thing is like a many well. This heiser duo stimulate aggressive. Goes inside jess if you don't if you're not into that kinda thing. No we're entering in order to put emily harris times. Have you been going around the world to teach and speak and be at conventions and stuff and you've had to like go through. Tsa with like a big bag of dildos. Step into me. I used to go to trade. Show in vegas all the time and i remember one time. I'd like fifty. Magic is like a box of magic wands. Hide it and they were just saying i see you. I got you. They were five. Has anybody like done the whole where they open your bag and they pull it out. And then every last season holding a dildo said yes. Absolute has that happened to you. That's happened to me my vibrator going. Because i didn't take the battery. Classic ones like i was on holidays. It was pre way before the pandemic the guy was like unloading our bags. I had like a soft sided like duffel bag the guys unloading and he's like this bag is although this did happen with my faira gone when we were traveling but it brings me to a thought that i had i had peak sexual experience. Middle of covid. When doc was giving me a leg massage with the faira gone and he went really up high into my hamstring. And i was like. That's it gave me so much enough vibration in my groin seen that i was ready to go like go. That's if any woman up. They're scared to thing i love affair. Don't put it on your you know. Don't put it kind of like the wand. I love the magic one. There's no patrick wine to yeah. That's the mack truck while vibrators but that is the they're gone. It's true you get the high. It was going to tell you that. My i have In both houses like just moved. I have one thousand nine hundred ninety s hot tub and i think fat is like he if your sex life nineties hut the kids like it's plastic on the inside. You know you've had it been built into the ground and with slate. It's like plastic fiberglass you slide around in it like i just love being a hot tub and then you sit there. It's like what thera gun is. Tobacco's nether regions the hot tub to my libido absolutely that makes sense to warm. I've steam shower. That's been a big thing for my You just go and yet by covert love house. The sex like education kind of world going like during covid. It's been insane. I have to say that sex education when this first happened. Of course. I was sex retreat in maui and march twelfth and march. Yeah they're like the ninth to the seventeenth. So i like did not leave for. But i remember thinking to myself people's can be home masturbating like what is going to happen. You kids in their brooms masturbating and and so. I decided that. I just want to start doing like instagram. Lives every day. Just helping people figure out their sex problems. But i really am still doing stuff like that. But i feel like people had more time. Obviously at home and people are a lot more questions. It was great for podcasts. I'm sure the lady gang killed during quarantine. And then. I think people were listening podcasts. And they had a lot of sex questions so it's been a good year. You know. I think that people realize if they were home they maybe they were in a relationship where they kept leaving and traveling and they just were sort of avoiding their sex life but they couldn't run from anymore so they had to like get into it. Yeah so the question that we always like. Every time we're together like how do we increase our libido. What's the question. He went for men the most great question. The men for most is usually about their penis. So either they're coming too fast or they're not coming at all like it's like a delay. The jack later which is when it lasts about forty five minutes to an hour. So that's an interesting thing to like. What do you what do you do about it. So it's mostly about that and then it's not about pena's it's about their partner's orgasm like how do i get my partner to blame. Have an orgasm. Try in shape sex. Do all when i listen to you on a black girls texting podcast. You had mentioned something about like. We assume that men just wanna have sex all the time like every single day and that we're somehow disappointing memoir or like feeling shameful that we're like not being that person if that's not what we're doing and you said something interesting like you were talking about like you know as they get older like men sort of slow down can slow down to. Can you talk about that a little bit. Please they're going to absolutely do. Yeah they will slow down. Men sosthene does start to drop usually after the age of forty but i think once men get into certain later stages in their life and they do like. They're just sort of they want more communication and touch mean everything that we've learned about men are like this of women like this are mostly wrong and the only thing i can point to his desire about the women get turned on. Its usually respond to something. Men are more like a spontaneous fence the one area but everything else i hear from just as many many wants export of their partners or women do so. Yeah but i think that for men. They can't they can't slow down they feel safe in their relationship or it has to do with their physiology. It could be a lot of different things but that could happen. Totally rear the wonders perpetuating all these beliefs that like women are more frigerator. Men want sex time. Which is just so not so not the case. Now everyman wants on interesting. Yes thank you. You guys is still great to have you on the show lady gang. We love you. I love you. Is we do this again. Not enough for years. And congratulations on your success. That you're i don't know if you're still going to start doing the live shows in march and i just love watching all the success you've had. It's really impressive. And i think each one of you in you're aware so fabulous you come together and make this incredible show for so many women that you're helping them in their. They're seeing themselves in you and they're building your own community so i think it's awesome. Thank you. I remember coming to your show and being in your studio which now sounds like. You're a studio. And i was like one day lady gain will be successful enough. That will have a room with a sign and like you also like dildos out so we don't have that but still do you know i. It's pretty cool. Like i think you have paved the way for women and podcasting and being so authentic and so real and every time we talk to you whether you're on our show or we're on your show. I always feel better about myself at the end of it. Like you should be so proud of what you've accomplished and i'm like oh my god listen to you on other shows and i always feel less mean to myself like describe that it's amazing wizard the best. Thank you thank you for being here. How can people find you at the lady. Game dot com dot com new episodes every tuesday and thursday of the podcast. We also have clothing coming. And so that's on. The lady aimed at common than our book. Act like a lady is available wherever you get your books. Congratulations on your book. No okay well thank you. This thing so fun wa be right back. After this quick word from our sponsors. I'm always looking for ways to streamline my to do list whether it's delivery for dinner or ordering my favorite products online so they never run out. Why should getting your birth control be any different. Think about it. You know you're going to need it each month. So it's one thing less to worry about. All the pill club makes it super easy to get your birth control without scheduling trip to the doctor's office or even stopping by the pharmacy. They provide access to care and then deliver it to your door for free which i love in discreet. 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What's going on. Hi thank you for your call. Of course how. Can i help you. One of my partners penetrated me like badge. Nellie with pinas feels like it's tearing my anus a little bit like a like a slight little pain as it's like a little paper today going on okay. Sure like what is it your amos switch your amos. It's not your vulva or your china. Yeah it's not okay. Have you ever had this before. I have yeah. I think it's just like wine. Have a partner that kinda like resting powerfully. I guess like just. I'll don't know maybe it's 'cause my because usually seems like you'd probably have more so when i'm like in a missionary like i'm gonna bottom. I think it's more palm and then make sense. You know what. I mean No no yeah you like that proficient otherwise my little okay being are you using any loop knows his partner that you've been with for awhile for a few months okay. Calm for another partner as well. Is he big. Is he larger in size penis. Wise larger okay Well there's a few reasons for this. What we're talking about is pain like it feels like at your might be around there. But the but for women lot of women have pain during sex. And there's a lot of different factors that could be physical. Could be psychological. There's just a lot of things going on but using a lot of lube. And i would also recommend figuring out. Did you ever have anything happen to you sexually. Because it's been going on your whole life since you've been sexual which is the last few years you know what i think of the last few years. Okay yeah and it's like it goes away pretty fast like probably with them. I don't know maybe like two days or something. Oh gosh that's not fast. Today's you're paying for two days. I would recommend it feels. Like i have a paper or like when i the happens like drip down there like it's a little bit heavy okay. What tells it there is some tearing. Maybe something do. Do you ever checked. Ever take a mere look other any bumps are there any rashes and he tears. No as probably shouldn't try. I would go see your gynecologist. And i would get your hormones check because for many women in your forty so you know. Menopause paramedic starts in your concern in your mid thirties. And so what that means for women with menopause. Impairment pause is that we start to lose estrogen every year and his result of our diminishing hormones can have more pain. And so what can changes you. Can you know go see a gynecologist. You can get tested. You can go see a hormone replacement. Dr sometimes are modern day. Gynecologist don't have some of the best solutions. But they give you like estrogen pass. It could be loss of estrogen typically. And it's sort of like an aching burning throbbing or ripping sensation now. Women have painted all ages during sex. If you're in your twenties. I might say that. It's something called minister. Volva denia veggies. Mrs when there's pain entering the vagina and involved any is external more on the outside during penetration. But i believe that's what it out but for sure okay. Yeah that's that's what. I think it is and it happens during intercourse. And so what you can do is definitely go. You're gonna call just get checked with us time. You went for a checkup because maybe you have an infection you can you. Ti you could have some other sti that can lead to like right after like immediately after that would be it but that could be it. That could be that. It's still painful. After i don't want you you don't have to live for two days two minutes with pain. Women don't have to live with pain we think because we're like. Oh well. I have to get birth. I get my period. Muslims have pain during sex. No schivonne you don't have to have pain during sex that is that is that is not your. That is not your future. That is not your your lot in life to pain. I don't have to be well part of it. And i'm so glad you called you've more lou because i only that'll help within. It really didn't help okay. So 'cause lube is a great thing. Maybe there's tearing but i would say make appointment with your to colleges get all the tests. Get your hormones. Tax get your. Std's texts do everything and have her do have. We're doing exam what it was. Call it again. The one that external one. That's gold vulva denia volva and then did yeah volvo. Dunia badges mus. Yeah vulva denia. Vu l. v. o. d. y. And i and i'm telling you there's a lot of different reasons but if you're not happy with what she says go see someone else or he. There's public floor physical therapists that are just about you. You're feeling good. Okay okay thank you. Hey all right. Of course von this is how how so many people all right you posted. I got you be. Okay thank you. Thanks for calling. I mean listen to us. Eighty percent of women experience pain during sex at some point in their life eighty percent and those women what they do. They don't seek help they just sort of thought. Well we'll just have paid for two. She's like it doesn't last very long two days so for today's chevonne walking around with pain and i'm telling you the majority of vaginal pain we can solve it with you. Go to see a pelvic floor physical therapists which is something. That's becoming a lot more common these days just like you'd go for your physical therapist if you hurt your back or your. I hurt my knee. When every week to a physical therapist you go to see them about your vagina and they give you die later and they work with you to release the pain and it happens very quickly. You're not going for the rest of your life. You could just be going for a few weeks and they give you exercises and they help you expand your pleasure potential. Yea yea happy china's okay. I love this one. I can never have this conversation. Too much mandy for mandy. I recently started listening to your podcasts. I'm a huge fan. I've been dating my boyfriend for a little over a year. Now and sex's okay but i faked orgasm. Basically every time he never really does any kind of or with me. But i have for him because he and i like doing it. I fairly told him. I need some kind of pre-game get started because sometimes i'm not even wet when we start. He told me early on in our relationship while we were sexting that he's not a fan of going down. He turned me off. But i didn't question at the time fast forward a year in some change later. He's never gone down on me once. My type of orgasm is from clitoral stimulation. You rarely fingers me or goes down to me. great guy. we have a great collection. Sex game needs help. How do i bring it up to him without hurting his ego. No it's gonna take a deep breath here because she's probably twenty nineteen and this. This could be written twenty years ago. Thirty this five minutes ago. The this is the challenge that so many people don't understand when we don't know anything about sex and we started having sex. These kind of dynamics happened. And i don't want that to happen to so many more women that he says he's not a fan of going down to me. That is a deal breaker. But i'm gonna give the benefit of the doubt that he probably doesn't know how he probably hasn't before he might have heard it. Was you know people say things about the regina that are not that healthy or helpful. And so i would just say that you've been with them for over a year girl you've been faking orgasms four year. He's never gone down to new and he's getting a lot of blowjobs now. I'd like chalk it up to the fact that he just doesn't know about female pleasure. He said he wasn't a fan of going down. So i'm going to say that we're he's at in his life is is being a immature. I'm not sure that you're going to be able mandy change. The course of this relationship are not. But i wouldn't worry about bringing it up to him without bruising his ego maybe his ego needs to be checked and you could tell him how important it is for you to also experience orgasms. Even though you've been faking it. I don't know might not be a bad time to come clean and say i gotta be honest with you. I'm not really having orgasms. Or i make this noise because i think it's gonna lead to orgasm but most the time i don't and we got to work on my orgasm right now. You could even say tommy. I know you told me once that you weren't into oral. Can you tell me more about that. Did you have a bad experience to know what it's what do you think that. Maybe i don't want to have oral. 'cause i do and cia response. He might not be educated. But i believe that a partner. That's going to treat you. Well is going to hear request from his girlfriend that this is what i require to be turned on aroused. An orgasm would say oh. Wow thank you for telling me. I'm so glad that you felt brave enough and open enough to share that with me. I can't wait to figure out all the ways to bring you pleasure instead. What he's saying is ninety going down. I'm taking the blowjobs until they run out and he's not investment yet and that's what you get your partner on board. I think if you say in a way to your partner. You've a request for your partner. That's not accusatory. It's not blaming it's not shaming. How shouldn't do it to say you never go down on me. You told me that you didn't like it. But can't you tell that i needed. He won't hear anything. But if you say it this way you know. I need to come clean with you. That i've actually been doing some exploring on my own. Do masturbation and i've learned that this is what i actually need in this sexual relationship that we've been in for a year and i thought i should express my needs what you say any questions. Is there anything do to help. You know maybe. I could show you what i like orally or even with his fingers. He's not using his fingers. Either the other thing is he's doing the old jackhammer. My recommendation is to have this conversation. Not worry about his ego. But do an kind loving open curious accepting conway see we go from there. I think that's a conversation. We should all have tonight with our partners or tomorrow. What do you need in the bedroom. Don't you getting an ask for it. But if you don't know this it's confusing in. This was my hunch is that this is still going on in the world. So that's why. I think he may be. He's a little bit younger. So this i'm going to say any age never relationship you're in. Your partner will benefit from this kind of feedback. No matter what the gender if you do it in a loving kind way that is to serve not only yourself but them and others okay. I really wanted to read this email because it brought me joy. Jim fifty four in colorado. Love your show. Thanks for all the great information. I'm fifty four. My wife was forty five and she is amazing. She can orgasm many different ways. Orly by hand by penetration nipple gaza gazprom's even when we're putting it's a great feeling knowing she can go so many different ways and she's multi orgasmic many times i've lost count after twenty orgasms. It's incredible and so sexy now for our question. She's a squatter or both faithful about emptying our bladders before sex so we know. Her discharge isn't urine. Plus there was no color or odor yet. She can soak three to four towels each session. Where is it all coming from. It's like the flood of noah. Down there loving our sex lies in colorado. How about that. This is the question everybody wants to know what is female. Jackie is it real. Is it urine. is it something else. What happens during arousal the skins glance which is in your pelvic floor. When you get aroused and the blood flowing they open up expand and by expanding to to hold more fluids and the fluid secretion is coming from the pressure. But it doesn't mean that it's p. It just means that it's really closer related it's mostly prostate enzyme. So if you look at what comes out of the prostate if you look at the prostate it's very similar and so it might have a little bit yearn in it because it expels through the retha. There's a pump. It fills up. It's like you're pumping pumping you're penetrating penetrating penis going in or toy. Or whatever. this whole areas getting so filled up because she's aroused rights at this whole area next to the urethra is filling up like a balloon expanding. With all this fluid and that it squirts out and it might have traces of urine. 'cause it's exiting through your retha where u. p. I believe that every woman can try squirt and can how strong public floor and you are applying pressure to this particular area and you're open to squirting and you are someone who is not holding back sexually and you can kind of release because the thing about is there's a release there's like a assumes that quits responsible for orgasm when we're too uptight and we're worried we're not going to orgasm so if you feel free and you feel open sexually and you feel like i think that it's a practice but most women can learn to squirt if they're open to trying but it's not gonna might not just take one time but it's a lot of internal g spot stimulation so we have a lot. Some people have a little bit. It's different for every single woman and let me just say this thing is that it doesn't necessarily mean it's an orgasm. Women expel fluid and silent orgasm people. You should think that if a woman she has in cotonou hits but it's not that i say we're not try it. That's it for today's episode. 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"Ebay realized that intro background. You're not getting. Oh you know what. I'm getting old when i'm like i'm like damn offbeat today but now moving good man as the election a is finally over. Did something happened. Is this news. It happened today by looks like we got a new president. A new six forty six president and mr biden. i wonder how How trump is gonna take. It is the only peacefully boys. Forty five is often right now so at their worst of all welcome to unscripted into building. We start off all the shovel. The premise of today's show. As you can see from the way we intro with that very touching and fitting image of vice president elect emily harris. I think that says it all two dads of daughters proud. I mean you know you. You want strong women that kind of represent that kind of you know i got i got one son and all all daughters you want woman that represent in a positive way you know so that they know that they have hope and it's not all just shaking you know shaking and shimmying on you know on media that's amazing that's awesome they just and we we can obviously talk about other things. But we'd be remiss if we did talk about what's really happening today and and and the gravity of it folks from left right-center red blue green whatever are either elated or accepting trying to accept what's going on and again what he five on the golf course. And that's fine. You know. Every time i would lose a softball game and i to coach. It would take a long time for me to come in the house and accepted. So i'd have to be by myself thing so but look he's gonna have to come to the realization. That is his time as die. The fact so many people came out to vote. So this one is hitting me different than above right alma. Hit me in a in a in a very very significant way i was. I was sitting on floor here with not having because that was so wrong. So so profound. This wouldn't his because i think Responsible many people actually came out and voted back that we are saying that we are better than we have been these last three and a half years and we want someone who we don't agree with everything by is going to say or do right. I'll get. I don't agree with everything that he says and plans and proposals things that are not treated. Don't demand speaks. He speaks to us instead of ads. Right right right right. He he speaks with respect. He speaks with Kind of an understanding and willingness to listen and a willingness to try to make things better as opposed to someone. Who's out there you know. Just just slamming it down and and just talking not accountable nuts talking us the way we we have better folks in that and and i think we're gonna see a station. I think yeah dramatic shift in the attitude right of of the united states. It probably a dramatic shift. In the way we're again seeing across globe is kabealo tough battle in the incident primarily in an nfl representatives Impressed maintain that but again. There's there's relationships between mcconnell and biden that go back for decades that are gonna be valuable There's going to be focused on this pandemic killing people you can't you can't deny that folks are not here that were here months ago right and i truly online right now. Thank you for your comment. I thank you for watching. She's in the healthcare industry. So she sees lana upfront everyday basis. There again debate that they're folks that are no longer here because of the way that we have reacted or we have not reacted learn. Pandemic more focused on that the fact that the economy is where it is which for some good for a lot more not great right. I mean yeah. We're keeping the lights on a lot of folks on. I'm just saying that kind of earlier and keeping the lights on but man we wanna eat something to are we living because you know you. You can't i mean you. Can't you have to work all the time. You wanna be able to have a nice time with your family you want. You know it's not. I mean i'm i'm thankful i'm thankful but there's a lot of people that you know you know this this this economy of this last this economy Didn't work out for them. It's really tough and And honestly i'm hoping we get more into the you know the unity taking care of the civil unrest that's going on you know if we can focus on those things to kind of help us be better people or look or actually you know do better and make us know that or make us aware and i think there's hope make us aware that we are united a united people you know and i know that you know people were. I don't think everybody was voting for the people that voted for trump. not everyone was martin d. They didn't want to eat. he's a good thing. Know what happens is when you so mu so Explosive or or kind of you know you. Don't you know you react before you actually kinda down eight while. I say that you know when you're react. Were like that. That is what it comes off bad. I think that you know you can do one thing good. You can do ten things good you want bat. That's what people are gonna remember. You know it's and isn't that as human nature that is true. I i want to go back and recognize. And i was going to get into that. But look the fact that the harris is. She was reversed of color really to hold that office. Vp blended family Just just the fact of what that represents and again and as well kind of understands that whole respectable of the significance of yet yeah biden. Good man you know. He's gonna he's going to do what he's going to do in the office but we're we're a arm rallying around the new vp. Just just because that means so much to be with by my daughter said upstairs right now and again. Yeah if you and this is this is true to right if you if you were just talking to a real good friend of mine the other day who breaks my heart that he says he's leaving california for one because of prop nineteen right. So he's he's going to be affected by some of that from a tax perspective and then the by natural plan shows that you know folks that make over a certain amount money are going to be asked to contribute more to the to the overall Good of his of the of the economy. Not everyone agrees with that and again. Well when you and. I'll put it this way when when you evaluate and you make it over four hundred thousand dollars and net chunk taken out of your earnings at at hers So again there are things that he does or he says and he's going to try to implement that i agree with that. I don't agree with but I think and it sure is the lesser of the two evil. Or there's a weight off of. I think the majority of of of the country today just because the direction we've been going. So we're we're we're point so yeah upgraded yeah but Yeah i you know i'm hopeful. I'm hopeful i'm definitely hopeful. Now it's gonna. I was gonna say something and Moment is what you look at. You get caught up apnea talking about blazers and As i was making my blazes. But i think that that is good. You know 'cause My kids. I have one son but i have also three daughters and i want them to to to look at you know. I'm not taking anything from the kim kardashian or social media people that aren't on social media but there is more to life You know you you can you. Can you can carry yourself a certain way and be professional and and still do well. You don't you don't need to cater to your to your looks and the things that you know people online but anyway come up with the need you to come up with another example are desio though. I'm so i'll let you think i'm mark. Nothing is because there is some stuff that was out there and again the cardinals. I think the way they put their holiday started in all this stuff. It just didn't happened. But i'm not saying i'm not taking anything away from because they are in my mind like business savvy but if i had role models maybe her role a role model now she is where she's at now how she got there where she now. Kim kardashian is leaps and bounds from where she started. You know she's you know she's going to representing things like people being mistra treated like the. The woman she held at there wasn't prison For something you know unequal was it like she did. She did something in you know. Other people have gotten lesser sentences. And this woman. They gave her like the max when it was like. You know she's i remember. I remember that. I on the i keep up with what happens at the at the or gashing slash west house was really and it really really so much that it that it involves. Trump was more more this pregnancy thing so it wasn't like i was like what is it called chicken with the kardashians but but but i do see the stuff that they did in the news like putting things in your lives and people are like sucking on them. All suddenly put off lives like exploded and because they have full lives on my girls were getting hurt or suck on those things. And i may or may not have been but like like. I said we need strong role models. Women need to look as upon s. Strong in your. And honestly. I i always. I've always been a firm believer that if you see a strong man you got. He has a strong woman behind him. He has the supportive that pushes them to be better. And they innate kind of play off each other and work together to push each other heart each other up or lift up. But anyway i was. I will say one thing to kind of along the lines of that. Didn't you wanna talk about something else. Deputy i'm so you mentioned in west family. I'm looking more at the influence in the impact. Or someone like a like a stacey. Abrams at because that mobilization in georgia. That's that's what helped push this over that. That's what helped changed the whole concept of thing you know. Democrats got to step up. We gotta do. We gotta do better by ourselves. So so you're right. Yeah i thought you meant like i get what you're saying. Now you're saying hey look role model. I thought i thought you're saying that. Oh yeah you know. i'm like oh. I guess he's been swimming now. But how did you get way. I gotcha. Yeah you're right directly you know and trust me there are. There are a ton of other women that are great examples out there Don't have off the top of my time but those in here's my here's my issue. Is that the ones that are on social media always in the press you know it always always issue those stick with you. I'm like why. Why does that happen. But you know so this. This is interesting as well. Because i think i think Tomboy asked me this yesterday on our show the lab and yes had if biden wins affect me. What's my thought on this. And and i've said this and to a degree still feel this way in terms of my faith in society facing humanity. It's shattered broken. right is damaged. That was that. What if the folks that i think that are going to help. Turn that tide and hope lead us into the next evolution of this country are our youth right so the fifteen sixteen up to nineteen. The kids are that are out there right now yet. Grown up in the social media world but they have instant access to information some good some bad some neutral. Whatever the case may be but they're the ones that continue the mobilize air the ones that are talking amongst themselves and say to. Some of the stuff is good. Some of this stuff is bad but we can do x y and z to be better for us. because we're going to be the ones that own it into future so that makes me hope right for the folks that are archies. Age are teenagers age. Who are studying this stuff in school now and really living an understanding that this. This has been a really weird time. What he's past three and a half years worth visibly again. We do better. And and they're gathering get this is i mean this is really likes ants on the line and this leary like the the social political religious conversations that we used to have in the apartment while we were in college right sitting around there would have his garon out. I would have the bible how we would be we would be. I don't know if you were ever there. We'd be in a room justice debate on yellen and screaming at each other but at the end of the day it was all in love and it was all inspect and we came away learning and knowing something new and try to take that attitude our community that we dealt with on a on a regular basis so that those are the kinds of things are happening or and are going to continue to happening and we just need to get on the on the backs of youth de the coolest. I think bringing back family. 'cause there's a there's a lot of a either a lot not a lot. Maybe a lack of respect for some like like elders back in our when we were growing up you know. Hey siri yes. Ma'am you know we. We were taught. Hey respect your elders. You know men not see stuff now man. People were yelling at their parents. And hey i'm gonna. I'm gonna i'm gonna send you. I'm going to take you to court. And i mean literally families each other fighting each other. You know what. I'm trying to do with my family because i m m. My kids are grown up in a kind of a separate A household different household. But i'm really trying to bring back family to them. You know and and let them know that. Hey family's important you know and right now. It's all talking to my old devon she. She's actually moving out of california but she big things have hold on let. Let's give away sat out the dev actor you know fixing hair doing hair and buying by property selling insurance would be i. I'm trying to drop a plug for you said you go all right it you know. And she's leaving because she wants to expand you know they they they have a couple of Some shops up Barber shop in southern sacramento valley expand their moving to tennessee so they bought a home in tennessee. The matter of fact they're there now and you know what her and i and again we've been talking talk we we. We've gotten this thing now. Bond is so strong. She's at that age where you know what she's insight you know she's you know not your mind is like okay. The world is a lot out there. You know absorbing in you know learning Growing so we've been talking on the phone and she's we're talking about you know when she moves out there. She was dallas star traditions. You know we start rotating having thanksgiving. I remember we used to have thanksgiving dinners and family from every people know from our family would be there. I think if we can learn to get back to that and you know people kindness and you know. I think that i think that's what i wanna do. That's what i want. More of you know in you know it starts with just it always concerns can take one little event that can change. You have a friend go with you or something you to do that too. I mean you never know you know if you can touch one person not every day but if you could just touch one person in wausau ripple effect. That's that's hopefully where we're going. We're gonna head down that way about your syrup influence. Kanye can't boil the ocean. But i can't go on to that five mile radius around me. I can go out and talk to my. I need to do a better job of gwinnett talking to my neighbor tours down who had his trump flag up for again as i said his name and who had forty five flag up for the past few months we were on a decent relationship. We talk every day. And asking. But i need to have more dialogue and fellowship with him as i do a couple of my other name. So i'm going. Try to consciously into some of that. You can do exactly. It's all you can. Do you gotta reach out. We can't expect the other person reach out. We can expect the other person to be the bigger person you always have to be control of. Who's going to be the big person. Which is you you you have if you don't if you're not going to be the bigger person there net contemplating at it as well. Should i talk to him. I just never know so. Why not step up. You know There's no bar like knows now but if you wanna come on screen this is unscripted. We don't know what we're going on komo. we purposely. don't have an agenda. That's why we call it but whenever there was breaking news this morning i was to go hit the gym this morning. Right try try to get in early. Come back and watched what was going on. But it's cold up. Your didn't get up as early as that one. It's that's actually. When i went to the gym this morning actually saw it on the news. Oh my god. So so. I guess are done. Counting numbers He actually bypassed he. I think they were still count but he call it exactly. I'm talking about the electoral votes. I think he liked blew over the two seventy that and vote. so so. what's be cool right. So all of this litigation has happened over five is trying to do right now. And it's primarily focused on pennsylvania. Don't let don't don't let nevada and arizona come through and and biden be like know we didn't even love everyone in pennsylvania but we didn't need it because we got it over here so all the talking points and also a lot of things are going to play out we'll just sit back and watch Hopefully cooler heads will prevail and washington all the channels today s. So i've been watching between fox. Msnbc cnn all and just looking at they're portraying everything that's on and in every city it's both gathering they got their mask on. Withdrawal is still a little too close the backup from each other. But i'm seeing more folks. Dancing in the street folks rejoicing. Just just I don't hear or see of negativity happening yet. It might happen but no i. Here's the senate the senate give me saying that so. I'm glad that the numbers came out in the day as opposed if the numbers came out at night because again the freeze out at night and we have when you have of different mindset but so far there has been calmer cooler. Has i think again did. The nation is just spinning. Austin is waiting on the slow count but you know it's an accurate count and is due diligence. That's what it is it's democracy But hopefully things will continue to be. Civil things will look be be happy. Upset be frustrated. Whatever the case may be normal human emotions but And don't go out there and try to arm to your neighbor to any property anything that there's benefit news no value your personal even with this litigation. He trump started the whole thing early okay. They're not even done counting your and you're behind. Why would you want to stop the when. You're i mean not count those account. Well mean since. I was like what i mean. I i don't know and to mind to the melon. Ballot is not a new concept. It's not it's been i remember. I was in the military. I was voting for longtime right. And you know i'm thinking. Why does he think this is a new concept morale but they did find you know people that they did find people wanna say that news may be wrong but they were saying. The republican people sitting there with ballot boxes. Now take your ballot box. You know whatever. And mike again you guys are saying is rigged but yeah you guys are doing the cheating you know you guys are doing just kind of all stop and now. I'm not trying. I don't want to say i'm just saying maybe there should be some tighter controls on the media because a lot of times meeting get you in a frenzy in like what we do. Is we try to give you two size. When i'm not saying we're like nbc. But you know. I think good enough to be but on nbc advertising. But i'm thinking what we we're we. We should be unbiased as to what's going on. We say here's what here's what's out there. Here's was out here. You know any you guys. Take you have enough information for to make your own informed decision and not you know you know you already knew where most people stood in in on fox where they stood in terms of who they are civil so let me say two things right. So yeah. I mean every show for your Love every show that i have. We have really is completely unbiased and completely focused there. There's methodology in the madness. Some the lab is about certain things Itn lives about certain things. Unscripted is about what whatever you decide. Particular day a we are not subjugated to speak on or about anything in particular. We speak our mind. You know some some of us are go. Lean one way. Some was lead yet way. But that's irregardless. There's going to be a completely unbiased. Conversation is going to be from the heart. Take it to you. Want to listeners viewers things that nature you have the option to not watch not subscribe. Whatever the case may be. We still going to do it because we're doing this for us. And we we bring you along for the ride and we love the fact that folks are long for the riot because we are trying to win pain we are trying to warm and bring some light to the world that s the goal behind that but now my second point which you're talking about the news networks interesting. That box was the first major networks. So they're the ones that we had all the problems because they already called. There's a called arizona three days ago right so nobody else it right and and i think all the other little gun shy from past elections where they started calling him early but if it was it was red folks that call one particular state calera zona for for by way ahead of time. No one else did. And then today all the other networks calling for biden. I flipped over to fox. They still had called. It took them like an extra took them like an extra thirty. Minnesota's you know what it's game over you know. But i i think that to be pretty interesting as well. Yeah it has been a now. I don't you know it has been a a heck of a four year term has been a lot lot of things happening. You know you Essentially these things on this whole cunanan and all. This is as crazy as crazy i. It's been a crazy for years. But in but i look at it when i look at. I try to see you know. Let's try to take away some positives out of this in my mind. One of the biggest positives there is is at. We can work from home more pants in both well and it's not even that much that it's just the fact that i've always said. Hey you know what. I remember when i was working for. Nbc and nbc. You and The i worked in an office at nbc and ended in a week. They pay for this office that we we worked in ours. The service i was managing isn't over in florida. I'm like why don't we buy. Yes i mean. I can save you so much money. What does that mean work from home. But you know and so you know what i'm saying. So in terms of people are I think the mindset may change that come thinking this might be the the new norm. It's been so by know being able to work from home and at work. You know when you're sitting at a desk and office you know they just because you're there doesn't mean that you're always having to compute right or or or doing something right. Well they they pay you for your subject matter expert or your your expertise or your they say. Hey you know from this time. This time i need to be able to rely on you and guess what from this time to this time. When i'm at home you're gonna rely on me so if you call me boom i'm on an somehow it goes up on is they're looking at it from that perspective and they are now in are saying. Wow this is really working to. We're moving a fourteen billion dollar project. Lax remotely and we do have some people on site but the bill. I just want to a young an airport remotely street but for the most part it's working in in its in its beautiful man still drive by Say look at all this growth before we up windows is but man to all this new stuff out there and you know we're developing new technologies. Allow me to really you know. Everybody buys the software. And never you use like maybe a quarter of it now like. Hey we need you to make it. Make all the bells and whistles work now so now they're really relying on me to make all those bells and whistles work and and and i love. I love that man. It's like now we're using technology how it should be used to almost its fullest. You know in you know in. I know working because right. Now you know like Companies some some companies. They do for full functionality. You know like when i was at apple apple develop all their own supports softener. When when i was last year the the the phone must be for. I when if i coming out and they decrease their own tool. We had our own like the tool. We didn't use any of the other Other software that they had out there you know doing metrics and we had our little ticker board up there I always call you. You'll running numbers eight. These people are making calls anyway but now like outside companies people didn't even know how to use they got excel. This is putting stuff on sale. But they never knew how to like. I can make this sale react to this. You know this other sheet. Great if i go credit for that so i'm still only okay pivot and not like but you want wanna to me. I feel like that's the good stuff 'cause points let me tell you at home. But you know. I may not be allocated excel but when i'm up on stage with powerful i tell you what i can. I can make that happen man. Yeah that's right. Yeah that's that's but that i do miss that. I do miss going in having meetings with all these people presentation in front of a lot of people to me out. That was exciting. That was exciting. Because you know when you're doing a virtual because i still do it early. Not as exciting. I mean but you know. Forgive and take you know. So i'm i'm still doing presentations for folks in and trainings and all this good stuff but Yeah that's i think. The interaction the social interaction is different. We'll get back to that but again. If there's any positive side of the lockdown at cova again you're right families have been able to be closer because again now you with each other. The twenty four hours a day. And it's been that time together you know but but again that is what is. Oh you have that. You don't have to worry about you. Beyond rain going to area or something and i lose via four hours with family but how folks are together. So that's a that's a benefit if you want to look at it from that perspective but we're having more conversations that at seen more people posting pitcher to them plan board games monopoly and putting puzzles together as opposed to the time finding things to do going out and walking so there has been some crows than all the cons that have come out of this time abbey so much closer use ago opened continues to expand even when we get the plus. We offer the forty-six president. We know we have they. Have we have a chance to to shake some shit up and make make some make some change. Make some real change. it makes them you know. Make some positive changes out you know. Hopefully so so orchestras. Oh so breaking news here in watching. Tv no so biden has to seventy nine though it looks like It must have called another steak for They call they called nevada. So yeah they they. They've this called. Nevada for buys league at the six protocol from nevada. So again as you keep moving it. There's gonna be a point. Where vacated we love you appreciate you know That's the philadelphia in jesus. Thanks but We're gonna be okay. It's gonna be alright and the funny thing is that it's just really flip now right there is split because remember the it was In two thousand sixteen when you know. When a hillary the popular vote right votes now focus on the electronic. I'm blessed no and she had this. You had the fireworks ready. Look we we. We wanted that too for for the reason of a woman sitting in that chair to mess around said she said one thing and then took down. That took her down when she was she called called. The folks laurels that that rubs so many more people the wrong way if this kind of kind of maintain and didn't make that statement i think she she she must round what was really. You know the inner voice come out essays vang's but the i think that was the turning point for her why she didn't get why he didn't get it we get vote look punishable right now Seventy four million biden seventy million for trump people out there in the middle of a pandemic in the middle of crazy weather in the middle of Both is out there with They're strong opinions. But i'm gonna turn my ballot in iowa pool that lever. I'm a i need to do. So that's that's a poss- terms of going out there and say they're saying saying there so i think that's huge right. A now people are participating because they know that guests will your your voice counts. Your voice counts you know and and they're proving that everyday now they're saying so. Guess what the next time. People are ready to vote. They're going to say a word. You know delayed man matters. You know whether whoever wins or not at least you know again what what is what is a term competition competition you know is good you know in terms of that said you know what i need to get i know for me. I said you know what i don't like to wait till the last i used to waive the last minute for everything. All the time tax going board today comes in the mail negative but people are participating people are getting ball. Young people are getting involved. What i like. You know tho- you and you're seeing not just the the kid said hey. Let's get the straws. Its use paper straws and you know so we could save you. Don't like what about them. Damn plastic bottles plastic bottles and in those. They'll stay whole the six pack say save the whales seals come together dude and that's huge and that's huge on your Governor just signed that. Thanks i think in twenty twenty five that you you can't go and get a a combustible new car. It has to be electric guitar that you can't have one or new car. Owners are a huge move because we're ritual plant where where we are at literally killing the planet. I think you know in trump really supported a lot of those coils and all those fossil fuel companies. That you know yeah. They're making money. But you know you're also killing a planet so how much how much is enough money. You know if you're if you're if worn now deplete the end our whole resource. Our homeland know what's next now that we have natural resources. Just learn how to capitalize on natural resources. I mean not. Naturally i mean you like wind solar. Whatever we're going to happen you know shit. I mean who does airways i can say. I'm not an expert in terms of fracking and mining. And things like that. But i know so. I'm gonna say this from the perspective of someone working in that industry today right. this is all done. this is what i do right. I'm i'm a coal miner. I'm a coworker. This is what i do. But so from another perspective. When i go into a company and i started talking about technology solutions and being more strategic that tackle and and and and migrating and moving to cloud things of that nature. I specifically look at folks that have been doing the same job or decade to say. You know. we're not replacing you. What we're doing is making you you the person i thought the more strategic and train you want some new skills taking the job away from you and again. I'm not an expert on the on coal mining oil drilling or nothing like that. I don't even know if all of those jobs can be transferable but a number of them. I think n. b. and if we get into those people's mindset that you can we can teach you some of these new skills to be more strategic more be more advantageous to this new world order. It's going to be. It's going to be a win win for you and be win win yours as well and i think that is scary to keep talking. Keep talking about my my work. But you know so. This offer that i support Will collect all this information. What what what happens is a company. Emails is third their stuff that we take that stuff that they emailed us and in type system. I'm like ours our system designed they can just upload into our to our system and then we can you know in game we can distribute it. Once it comes in our system. Why do we. Why are we accountable for that. Why do we. Why do we take that onus on us so so might my team when i when i made it so that the external folks can come in and dump that in our system. They're like okay. We're gonna take our jobs not taking jobs away because guess what we still got police that information that comes in tribute stuff that comes in we still have stuff that's inside that needs to be distributed out right so this is an opportunity one. You're not being accountable for stuff that they're supposed to their. Those are deliverables that they're supposed to give us post putting our system. Guess what they don't have. There's no twenty four to forty hour turnaround time now because i you they get big. It's overwhelming behind that they don't get the stuff in vessel now twenty four to forty dollars if they already have in the system. Guess what it's in the system we just a digital is sends it off to someone else you know. And it's off their hands. You know that way we have to. We have to kind of adapt. And you know. I'm the type person. If i see a problem and i think it probably my wife if i see a problem i don't sit there and bus. You know and and and where about the problem. I started thinking about a solution to that problem. That's why do i. That's that's that's that's my mind works. I'm not going to sit there off. The sexiest sucks. You know no say. How can we get work around this. I saw my team is overwhelmed and we and and and pivoted right. We pivot the pivot. We're going to have these guys. did it up. we change. but you're right. People do get scared because change is difficult for all for sam and yano. What is you just got to be more acceptable chain. Luckily we have young young. You know the youth of today are gonna be used to change. They'll say hey you know they're not going to your the. Here's the funny thing. The funny thing is that you know. I was watching the documentary on the rockefellers and the You know all these folks that started in in the past they. Every time something came to obstacle hit them they pivoted in in may money. What happened to that mindset. You know when when when we have new energies and stuff like that edison's and all these people that are there you know know making change you know why no how come up learning how to pivot and looked to that why. Why aren't they doing those things. You know that that'll i'll call it. That old school work at that right. Because again if if edison if If all of those folks had stopped after the first time or first one hundred times that their idea didn't work we wouldn't have some of these technologies and say exactly right. Yes if the whole ideal of i got this idea i want to. I'm going to stumble. i'm gonna fall but get back up. And i'm going to now as opposed to a quick that kind of thing so that home and that's an old school work ethic That cutting come from us right to side more season folks may not folks with all of salt in their talk to the young folks and tell them to stay. Vigilant stay focused. Don't don't give up when you when you get knocked down nostrils comey way. Find a way to turn that negative into a positive. I think that's what we did. And i think i again. I can only speak for myself. But i i know that's what i do with mike. Acme have so many different jobs. You know what i'm saying. So i was in the airforce came on the air force was a personal trainer. Come you know so. Devon is always seen me kind of changed pivoting and keep rolling with the punches right You know i. I didn't even start out. Nineteen so i think For her she does hair. She doesn't sure now she's used to that. You know she wanted to get into nursing but yes a lot of work she has. She has a numerous helps. We're going to nursing school. But it really took a lot from away from her time with her family and she still want to do all these other things. So i think i love that about her. Is that you know what i've always taught my kids to do is dream dream dream big you know And never let anyone tell. You can't do it. I mean that's the biggest thing that i could ever tell. You know my kids. Well the dream has to make sense. I'm not saying. Go out there and be freddie krueger on people but you know your dream big you know and if if you feel like you can you can you. Can you can make it happen trying to make it happen you. I fully will support them. You know but And i think that's what i've i've taught him but Yeah i put the invite. I've never done this before because you never know who's going probably won't put the invite for folks if they wanted to engage in come on screen. I'm loving seeing all of the comments coming through. I'm not putting any more your comments and like most freeman. I know you said bourbon. Your new baby but We we selfishly. That were says the baby. I was talking to i. I won't give it away. But i'll just say i think again when we develop we do our part to the family reunion we. We may have absence more special guests on that one. Now i won't. I won't give it away just yet 'til i can confirm that but the sucked of things today. Nice nice man ye what else. What else is going on. We're starting to go down that sad path but no gem the gym the gym. Do you know. I'm i'm i'm fifty three and i keep talking about my diet and changing meeting in. I'm telling you i'm telling you i'm telling you as at fifty three on the strongest out. My audience is reacting so much better. I mean i go to the gym and just energy now I mean there's days you know you. Of course you wake up you. Gotta i tell people that the struggle is just to get to the gym winter. Jim you're already realized he just knocked that nice as metal but you know been my wife sees me now. I literally throw myself out of bed. I said i gotta make it. I gotta get to the gym. And even though my day often jim i do cardio so i still go to so i still go there know. Not just because. I'm paying a monthly membership and i want get every dollar out of that. Mom the are also. Do i feel like when you're older. You gotta move in. If you stop moving. I feel like i feel like sr on sedentary. And and you know. I don't know what is that the when you've like wag lays on. Don't do that. But i'm telling you what i did what we did do. We did make a change. I still try. I try to stay vegan but protein powder because the plant based on that plane. Tell me tell me what happened to you would plant based going into a hold and then i can look. I'm right there with you. Brother taste whatever i mean. You know you still want something that you're gonna you want you mix it with you. Mix i mix it with milk so all my always get milk but i always used chocolate. Chocolate milk. never used drink right so now. The alcohol milk so i use the us am. I'll say almond milk and you can just get your own brand. I'm not gonna have so but anyway but some are thicker than others. You know. I i the silk use the cash cashew milk and i i like the i don't like real watery but i like that either so i went back to the almond. Milk in there was a protein powder again. I'm not gonna advertise for them. But it's a protein isolate. It was in the past. I've done way but now they have protein. Powders that are more your isolates. And i got on that and i've been on this now for. This is my second bottle more now. So it's been about a month hall man. Oh man this due to the gym. I know he was the only cat right now. He's younger too but he's on putting off. Replace your three or five. And i'm guys like you need to know i'm good at this and heels bam bam bam bam he goes you know. I mean this new big. He's a big dude. I don't know what he takes. I i know he's been working out. Probably logging maybe harder. Because he's he's four full and moffat and he's four all muscle. Maybe we water. I don't know but anyway. I don't know if he's watching anyway so anyway so i go there i hit it. You know what. I'm not so big. But i'm telling you man i'm i'm a beast. Yeah the street. I don't know if i've always just been kind of was that where cock draw but But i feel great at fifty three. I feel better if eighty three than i did at twenty three. I'm not so. I'll talk to you. I think we're reality perspective. They up until the last ten years. You've been going for size right. You've you've been lifting lifting heavy and going more precise but now he's kinda change going for strength from strength and flexibility. I mean just. Just from what i've seen and heard you talk about in terms of your training right because now you're talking about proper nutrition. Yeah you move. You can move all his weight at. That's only a portion of it but at night talk about you know cutting out the Talking about at not the dairy. You're wanna turn me onto the non dairy ice cream low rates ninety talking a whole different aspect of it right because now you talked about string longevity flexability things like that. That's that's what i see from you right and it's not so much for size. I'm not. I'm not right now. I'm not training for size today. I think it was always what are yours was puffy. I know got like cow always wearing them. Skinny jeans was a problem. You didn't like that at all. But now i'm getting more cut so i'm actually seeing results in my body that i've never seen like you know like just leaning out just you know you can't tell right now go to actually leaning and you start. I'm starting to see more more debt muscle definition just from eating right and again death really the only thing. I really changed my diet that you know it was. The is my protein the protein. I'm getting. I'm focused on getting you know the focus on now on getting my calories and so to stay lean. I'm i'm saying. Hey i want to be at at five hundred calories. Nothing more than two hundred count to twenty five hundred calories. Nothing less than two thousand calories right but my protein content has to be solid two. Am i in my biden's we own it. We my wife and i. We were on a vitamin regimen to. So we're taking vitamins. You know we're taking all that good stuff And i i'm telling me i. I wish i did this in the past. Because i felt like you know what i what i now. I'm glad i did it. Because you know with all the covert and stuff going on with all the things happening. Yeah i feel like you know. I'm probably not not a big portion of stuff. That probably would be telling me. I'd say let's. Let's let's do this. Because i'm doing a lot as well and again being real attentive to supplementation and what i put in the body. Actually my daughter. Megan jordan are doing doing right now as well. And it's but you know but it's it's it's better obzor that's cliff you get west but but the right supplements the right protein. The the right nutrition staying hydrated. Let's do the show about but nesta's bring out our stack right. Just just bring out everything everything we're doing. Talk about Counting mac rose. And you know we're technologists. Or at least i i'll take let's talk about what apps whatever that we're using to help track and monitor anything at a number of tools that i use the monitor that i think that is a conversation that we can have a month so we can get more engagement as well from folks or again when we're not necessarily experts but we've been doing it for a minute and we know what works for us and what doesn't work and we can point folks in the right direction. I mean there's a lot of time breath would. I'm i'm training. I'm jim and i see folks too uncertain movements incorrectly. And i i want to say a you know you. You really need unspoiled of elbows. Brigham in you really wanted to gonna do that. I mean that's not my place but again there are certain programs things that you probably didn't notice back in the day you know back in the day and these guys that same point you know because i look at these guys. Are you working with an working here. Getting getting a pup and yeah and the next but are you getting stronger. Are you really hurt. You rotate your vote. Presently granted down to a nub. Yeah it's do that. We have to bring up some video videos of people some funny stuff but Yeah that's a. yeah. I'm telling you felt feel good at this age and i was scared i was scared to say. Oh man i didn't wanna say five anything. Start stuttering. But i'm telling ya i feel i feel great. I feel Amazing in his. And i'm pretty sure is because of eating right and vice is still i. I continue to drink mud waters today. I have cut down. But you know i used to get home pot of i. I won't call him up again. My father in law he can go through a pot of coffee in a minute. But i'm down to probably down to three day. Wow and you know that. That's that's a. That's not enough for me there. Eight ounces three day but a limited amount of that. I have from from a coffee and the funny thing is that also. My pre pre-workout is to drink a can. You know you're bang for net or i don't even drink. The whole can warm. I'm down to a quarter of that Day so now you know. I don't know i don't know Anyway yes thinking about case bubble to get tickets. I love it all right well. We'll talk to what's going on with you for the rest of the day. I'm gonna get out here and i'm gonna get cut grass before stash rain and i'm gonna go hit train and myself. I think it's bitterness. Okay pitchers i was trying to get those gopro. So i can use this as my webcam right now but A little housing on. It's not about the a little later on today. An against because we were talking tonight. That's the gopro eight not the go pro nine and At the march for that. So you got to talk to me about the mas again before i come out and when analysis at best buy Nine why why. Should i not do that. So gopro had so. Here's your gopro. Coming in the middle here can take it out a gentleman we got. We got special breaking news here. The new hold on the happy. The new min- laws of the senior. What's the west. The on new talk radio new zealand technology over in another one was me. I said enjoying the show man. I i love to see all banter but we do like. I said we like we used to do back into the hall and see them is looking at nighttime here with is good for like you know when you get up in the day. You know what i mean. He is straight up at the biggest say. Hello hey hey mike oh yeah. He don't speak english on how talked each month. Was this what you call me like my record that desk awesome. That'd be home. Guess what it's like your whole day there alone him and it's just a mess so me and he's like he's looking at me like repeating word memo. I'm like well so you need to need to say some of that. I'm doing all right. I just wanted to time. And i don't mean to be negative but i think he right. There's a lot of positives with how things turned out. I mean having trump in office was was was a horrible like a nightmare but at the same time a lot of things came out of that like we re examine ourselves them. The movement is strong. Came out at the metoo movement blew up. You know we got a lot of lot of Squad before. I mean whether you think the progressive controversial they want again. You know what i mean like. We've got some positive black women in office on the republican side. A lot of good things is definitely happened. I mean if it was a tough for years. I mean whether you appreciate trumper like i. I understand both sides of the coin. Votes like trump. Even if you're a person of color. I see how you can not play so much into his racist. Talk but you look more is fiscal. Positioning what he wants to do. That makes a lot of sense. Because as i mentioned in the text sixty two percent is coming off the top of folks that make four hundred kate but soon as binding is everything running and as you age so i i certainly get it but you know i don't wanna i don't wanna get up everyday and see my president on tv on twitter saying crazy things like this tyrese is to tyrant man. I can't hustle too concerned about what he's saying and doing so. I think it's a good thing in school. Brought up a big thing. I mean kamala like the conversation. We've forgot about khumalo. We did this huge like the bay from howard university. Blazing me stand. Laura james before the sales started if she would have kept running if she would have kept running out of voter i would vote for and i know some people. They don't we're donovan he does. He doesn't he doesn't see that but we need representation and we need people that are that are that that represent well. You know what. I'm saying so And i think like you said these are good things that did we have like. Everything happens for a reason. Right did though. Did we have their last four years to make this happen. You know what i'm saying. It had had we. Would this have come up with this with this change of we. We had we something babar to happen for office. We need change. You know what. I'm saying for spark so harder to did and i think that's a huge. I won't take anything from him because he had to be him for us to get to where we are today right so this bless going away. Her be bad. He's he's got a network that he's trying to get off the ground. He's been trying to do that since two thousand sixteen and he put it on hold. I think they're going to start it up again in twenty twenty so he'll be back but i think is good though. We need that counterbalance our country a lot of people forget. It's all about balance you know about. And that's what keeps us in check now. Granted we don't want to stay right in the middle. I got gotten older more to the middle. I'm on risk of things. I'm on blue some things or what whatever but no ex- in be that that's how we have opportunity. I'm in finland and everything's over here and you know i'm not complaining about that. I mean you know. There's some positives to that. But if you don't if you're not on that side of defense it's hard for you to search yourself and who you are. We live in a country where you can start a movement like black labs matter into you know like we have the opportunity to do that now. You know we can argue all day about the proud boys and all these negative things that do occur but again we live in a country where you have opportunities to assert who you are you know have a have a real voice so you know good topic. Good bringing it up. Good thing you'd be brought better is a lot of positive that came out. Because i think people are going to forget that and we need so i was talking to tricia today on texts and thinks he was trying to get little come on our own exhaust only know. That should have been a surprise. I find a because everything locked down. But i'm trying to get the land on the next family reunion that we because You know we we we. We was talking about talking about race so he got pretty and you know the have what. Come on you found. Have when you coming home may well. I mean you know. Trump was getting funding with immigration. Where we're trying to work on visas and stuff out here. You got your work right. Well you know we run or minute. Jeff was get to studying. I think they started moving our paperwork through and i think with With biden in there is going to be a little bit east. I'm hoping for march. We're going to be back. I'll be back in states family so no fingers on it. It's tough being a man. This is just you right there. Man is tough. You know. I mean this is cold don i get depressed and i'm like why am i getting pressing because you ain't seen the sun in a week doll dana california's so is tough man. I love family for sure. But i do. Miss being back in the states and win big old patagonia jackets. When you think you know the stories zip it all the way a three. It got cold when i was stationed korea. Oh my god we were. We were these parkas. When zipped up is it all up the year. 'cause no mount right there in tampa. I can't go. Almost my daughter was like a. She's just as she bought a house in tennessee. I think it gets cold over there. I'm like alan cole. Kudo man y'all you yob. They'd brothers man. Ucla devon mine property in tennessee. Okay i hope. I can do the job as good as y'all we all doing it again. We all doing to get. Who is this. Let me take an mess around and put the invite out. There got stolen he. I don't know who look. I guess that's why he's still backstage until video coming in. You know kudos as they could look like. Max headroom you can have. Oh no streets. Leno turnover engineer. Don't know how to get on a screening. Because i think it's a service booth mobile. I think he boo boos. What's that other. One max or metro. Pcs we'd never gonna get any sponsorship now celebrating out there guys got more celebrating than than anx right now right there may be some things. Go off days for the most part. What was when they were kept. What was that in. Pennsylvania and the Were the counter-balancing people in the window protests. What how they told we count both is right now out testing. Stop anyway i love. Can i come on here again. Of course lew one is screaming. I gotta help you gotta help. Monitor other one. You know how you guys look. You'll sleaze you're right on residue from the earth you know how go yeah. They're going amen. I love your. I hope i this celebration of yeah. That was awesome. Give it should be. We should just bring people on. You know what i'm saying. We just have people come on and say say was not. Everybody asks me if your service and you ain't gonna be on that long anyway. A wheel whistles going on. Wait a second before. He says he's out there live on the streets in aluminum. Foil of holding up quitting pulsing. Dave eanet come back all right. But i tell you i'm gonna say this. This is each show with better We had a lot of engagement and rice and we talked about some real things going on in the world. Everybody stay up is just is just fine. The silver lion positive. Find a halo. Whatever yet. yeah go ahead and agree to disagree disagree to agree all all that at your mind right. It's your rights is the definition of a democracy own. Good holiday soon. Arben become appreciated. We out took.

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Google's VP of global marketing on loving fast food

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Thanks for coming during a nike shirt. I say i'm glad you're not the guy who like is wearing the band shirt at the show you know well the nike swags better than google. Swag if i do say so myself. Aren't you the guy who can fix that margaret. We one rule on this show which is no talking about your company or your clients except for right now. A marvin tells a little bit about google. What y'all been up to. I mean it's like everybody. It's been a crazy year. I think. I'll say it's great to work at a company during the pandemic and jarring kind of the black lives matter movement. That is really at the center of a lot of information and helping people find information they need and and changing the help people think through more information so that's been kind of a a bright spot of the year. I think like everyone else. We're looking forward to twenty ending. Will working on some fun. New work round home to search. You know what could be less serious than matt at the end of a very serious year. But just you know using a. I guess what people are coming into. A search box is going to be excellent. Excellent alright so marvin our just gonna kick off a little icebreaker game that we are calling marvelous. Marvin's very simple. We're just going to name a couple of things and you just tell us Which of them. You prefer san good sounds all right to kick it off. You are marvin. Of course but do you prefer marvin the martian or marvin the paranoid android. I mean definitely. Marvin the martian. It's the correct answer. You know and i think what i learned from him is to have reasonable goals right. I'm just trying to destroy the earth. Exactly picking the brain really a question of do or choice number two choices number of marvin gaye versus gloria gator. I mean gloria gainer probably has the anthem of the year. So i think you know you gotta go with gordon. I'm glad you didn't go with with nominative determinism right sticking together. I think you know we're loyal but you know we gotta go with what's right and what's all right. You are of course at google but choose between gucci or goop. I mean you kinda gotta go with gucci. I mean they've been red hot for the last three years. Great comeback story. I mean i don't know. Google is it's really not my thing is not my thing either but i have matter wise words thus far far wise words the next choice to choices in our aim that we much made up ten to go to goo dolls. Okay go ahead some open to the go. That's a tough one. You know gula dolls. Bring it back but you know. Keiko brings you forward. I mean they're. They're the innovative group. That's always kind of breaking new ground. So i think i kinda gotta go with. 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Marvin are you down with not but synonymous with the chromecast and apple. Tv and amazon or sticking houses like disney plus netflix amazon prime and ghoul just launched a google tv things like that. So we've also expanded definition here too loosely. Talk about Your media diet so what is coming into your your balls and your eye holes. It's under media diet what you have to recommend to us. Yes now i am a i get it. I am a court cutter. I no longer all. Ott as you would put it so they probably have too much you know. I love like the queen's gambit honestly think it was one of the best shows seen in the last like three years probably underground nonsense. House of cards has netflix. Put out a show of this. Quality and anya is just phenomenal. The fashion amazing. That i finished major like a month ago in the middle of the middle towards the end of money heist. Which is another netflix. show. It's like a spanish adoption house. Paper really really well done have seen I caught up with the mandalorian. I finally got disney plus my wife. My wife is making me watch. Emily harris from in the middle of ads. Watch them and then. I've been doing i. I like a lot of media. I love throwbacks. I've been watching. I've been watching a lot of the west wing thursdays ride to start with like season one episode one. And i'll just watch it. Until i as far as i can go so i think i'm on lake season three. Now that's a big thing in my library and then nelson my watching. And then i've been on kind of a jessica chastain kick like zero dark thirty one ear movies. I watched that the other day. I watch mali's mali's game on the plane ride over. You know things like that. So let's probably she's much but that's what i'm watching. She's got that new movie coming out again. She's a spy but it's lupita in it. It's got penelope cruz. I think they're trying to figure how to release it Fan being being is in it as well. Yeah she's a bad as he did. Take a plane. Ride over. Asian i might segue into our next segment. Yes so marvin. We've been told that you recently landed in korea. A country known for a wide array of fast food options. And we have asked you here because we hear that europe it of a fast food kind of sore kinda swirly. Be a rough war. Yes week ago. I've been in quarantine so there has been definitely been a good amount of delivery food. I'd say while i'm in very aggressive quarantine but Rate kids You stand for fourteen days and then after that you can travel but there's an app right on your phone. Yeah you say there for fort layers of fourteen for fourteen days. You can't leave the apartment like a hand. Go for a walk. You can't go get a cup of coffee. And they have an act the check in on and obviously tracks you and then afterwards. I kind of equate it to like The two thousand like foursquare. You just checking everywhere. Every restaurant and bar codes among checking into this restaurant. And i'm checking at this hair salon and that's how they contact tracing so you know it's like you know den dentist will be proud four square with tell us about fast food like you know every everyone has history with fast food. Everyone has has their favorite. But do you have a single favorite or do you like sampling. Take different fast food cuisines. I feel like. I'm an equal opportunity. Fast food consumer. I mean i think like everyone goes back to like when you're a kid. I was like in my parents are immigrants. I was a latchkey kid. And like you know both working parents so there are days. Were like you know your dad or your mom would pick you up and you'd run out to mcdonald's or like jack in the box for dinner and it was a deal when you were a kid. I grew up in new jersey on the east coast which i think is famous for both its highway exit system and that every highway exit system. There is a fast food joint. So there's a lot. I was just gonna say can you. Can you talk about growing up and maybe even some of your Goto i think at least. I have some like fond memories of a particular. You know extra value meals on the mcdonald's menu things like dirty. You have to go to from them. I mean like definitely. Mcdonald's was a staple growing up. I do remember you know like as as children of immigrants you know the the dream is to own your own business one day which which my my parents and my mother did and at the time my mom had to choose between like should we should. She open a seven eleven. A cargo ice cream or mcdonald's and like this was like a heavily debated topic in the house. Clearly i was on the mcdonald's camp and i lost shoved opening a seven eleven which also offers a very wide array of things to do but still mcdonald's was a place that i frequented a lot when i was a kid. But my favorite would still have to chick-fil-a mean and then i think it got even more coltish. When i realized when. I left my hometown to go to college in boston. That there actually are not that many delays in america you know i would actually get them fedex from atlanta wintertime. So i can have them embarrassing. Where you didn't you didn't become a a dunkin donuts slash baskin robbins kid in boston. Only a dunkin donuts. kid. I mean like you know. Dunkin mean starbucks was the last place starbucks opened in in america because of dunkin's alike. You know. I still have a group thread with a couple balsam friends. Every time we come across a great dunkin's in korea. They've got him in. You know all over the world or was exchanging duncan. we're at but So still i think a lot of people's touchtone originally as a kid with fast food was was like. Oh hey it's like a cheap quick meal but you know my my mother's immigrant. As well. And i i remember like you know. She cooked all the time right so times when she got a break and we we had fast food. It was like an indulgence more than like we weren't slumming it. It was like oh. We're going to get like the meal that someone else made for us and you know she was still a little bit. Like i can't believe it's five dollars but i'm alright. Fine you know. No definitely i think. Yeah i mean. It's it's both entreat end necessity depending on who you are. So yeah i think That's definitely true. I think when we were growing up it was a little bit a little bit of both. I think but definitely Definitely on the treats i when i was growing up so once. Your parents are running a seven eleven. Did your tastes change or like the accessibility. Like i don't know where you allowed to like. Eat things off the shelves or was that a huge. No no no. Yeah you can kinda eat. I mean honestly if you work there you know you pay for stuff off the shelf. But then like i have to admit like when i was in our house like our fridge was kind of like a seven member. Just be like random like frozen burritos and they're like random seven eleven food like in our fridge like ships. All the time was led junk food in her house. When i was growing up and this is a little bit later in life when i was in high school so i was a little bit like at a little bit more restraint cars. You can get my you know. So it wasn't. It wasn't like five with that much junk food in the house. I guess i also find it interesting that you have this. You know nostalgic love for fast food. I mean it's all nostalgia right like particularly formulated to taste good. But your wife is a chef. Yes exactly like how you talked about in in your family in the sense. I think you know my wife is a. She's a korean chef. Korean instructor like you know. She teaches korean cooking to people here in the bay area with a business called parks kitchen. And you know. I think we very well. You know i mean i'm very very lucky and i think my my lover fast food is not at the exclusion of just all other food. Like i love all food. Love really high quality food. I love good food. And i think you know we. We're lucky enough to be in in a privileged situation that you know we can get a really really good meal. We really good healthy meal a home cooked meal and then for my kids now. My two girls are seven nine. It's a little bit like you said like it's true you know like it's like once in a while they'll get you know in in and out or shake shack but it's more of a treat them like a regular thing for them so i think you know we're a little bit in that situation now but it is kind of a. I think it like like your family. It drives my wife crazy. That might girls do love in and and shake shack and things like that. I think it will take part of her chefs inside dies everytime talk. Well wait till they leave california. They realize you can't get in and out everywhere and you're going to have to fedex them term. They're acutely aware of that once again. We talk about a weirdly a lot. I'd say while you know they get that they can get shake shack here in seoul but they get. They can't get in and out you know but it's funny like he kinda goes you know we're thinking about the other day it kinda just goes back to you know i think like in general dislike. It's like the social thing you know like it's not a lot of times your best memories are over a meal or a drink and i think maybe a lot of too because of the pandemic like you're you know i don't know about you guys. But when i was in san francisco we did a lot of picnics in the park. You know it's like grab some food and eating apart kind of thing. And so i think it just is like a super casual way to connect with people and i think it always happens like you know for me. It happens in raynham countries. That happens like three in the morning and happens in those kind of odd moments in between moments in life which i find kind of really refreshing. I guess i don't know you mentioned. There's there are shake. Jackson korea can you. Can you talk a little bit about the options. There you know kind of what are the similarities where the differences are. they're interesting menu items. That may be like that. You can't get in the us. Yeah i mean. I think you know. I mean they're definitely mean lottery is probably the big kind of mcdonald's burger king equivalent. Here i lived here actually When i first met my wife i lived here from two thousand three two thousand four at at the time you know these businesses you know as a business they come in they They have licensing deals and so like the time burger king. When i lived here was way bigger than mcdonald's like i you'd see like walmart mcdonald's in the city for every three or four burger kings and now that's evolved a ton you've got you know. A ton cream specializes in fried chicken. There's like so many fried chicken joins the lawyer classic your popeye's kfc's but then you had like a ton. A local like kyogen chicken bond chicken like tons of fried chicken joins chicken sandwiches. And things like that. So i mean you got you know. I mean it's a pretty simple formula for these businesses and so i think that they do. There's a lot you know. In in japan you have mossberg about everywhere in the world. You have local establishments and then they have their specialty and then the even the national chains of their specialty like google that korean barbecue. Me like you'll get a bukoba. Burger here like a traditional in japan. They have like the burger at mcdonald's. A burger mcdonalds. You know I still remember like one of my think about one of my favorite. It's a drink like i had In asia like black bean black sesame is like a really famous tastes so shake shack. Had a black sesame milkshake which is like one of the best milkshakes. I've had like attaches shack in tokyo. So so they they're really. It's also fascinating. They've taylor just like in the. Us taylor menu like east coast or midwest when they go international they do a good job of tailoring their menus to local tastes. I think which is part of the appeal. The how the the the what is it is the sandwich that is has the bun is also fried chicken. Is that how that happened. I think you taylor to to to To regional regional taste. I don't know if that's how that happened. May vin burger king just announced like a like a like a four patty burger in japan. It has no bun. It's just like to patty's a bunch of stuff in the middle. Like to patty's i've ever had one. I decided saw it. But you know you're kinda like you know it. It's gotta be like this interesting global like test kitchen lincoln growing up like in the mid rib started like in the mid west or something like that and then it became popular all around the country. At some point. You know like you know global now so yeah. It reminds me of like These days when when whenever chain introduces like a a meet this version of the thing that they usually make. It's always like at one location in florida and we'll just see how it does exactly. Yeah let me ask you what chain that's popular in the us that most listeners are going to be familiar with gets the biggest bump in quality or like interesting this of the menu when you go to a location overseas. That's a great question. Each question i mean once again i don. I haven't tried everything went like we have this funny. Like saying like it's like for mcdonald's is like an away game spore look. I rarely rarely eat mcdonald's when i'm home in san francisco. I'm in america quite honestly but mcdonald's like these it just the it's like a different experience the The restaurants different the quality food is different. Like kind of joke. Like mcdonald's in tokyo's amazing i think like you know usually go to japan. You know pre pandemic go to tokyo twice a year. I kind of joke like the mcdonald's in Rita international terminal of the airport is one of the best. Mcdonald's i've been to and it's actually one of the only mcdonald's in the whole country that takes credit cards mcdonald. If you want to go to mcdonald's in japan it's a cash only business which is another interesting isn't quality because it's not franchise. It's a business model thing. I think japan the quality of the food in japan in generally high. They have very little organic Our industrial farming's quality of ingredients is really high. But i think the to use your words the bumping quality. I think you know you kind of look at. Mcdonald's is one of those areas in korea. I think it's you know once again. I admire these these brands for their brand for their food and for their business. And i think when you look at the business model you know. Econo- got admire like the scale that they've accomplished how they've done it in different ways and i think so many times in asia so these these brands get franchised out. Like another funny. One is like denny's in japan is a completely different restaurant like you can get like sushi curry rice and like all kinds of funny food like local japanese food. Because it's almost a hundred percent now owned by a japanese company has nothing to do with danny's in america. It's all my japanese friends. Then move to america and they'll see like a denny's in the totally different moons over miami. Isn't that awesome. L. curry rice is going to be great. At denny's i i mean the i could live on like a live exclusively on like only giddy from a japanese seven. Eleven for like the rest of your life. Yeah no i mean. It's another great like seven eleven. I think now. I think seven eleven in japan bought seven eleven globally so seven i holdings of the company but like i said my mother owned a seven eleven and so intimate with their and i like when i go into one in japan like the quality of the food is amazing for what it is and then i think like you know the services they provide and then it's even up in their game. I think there is a article. Maybe two or three years ago like natural lawson's had like a famous like a chicken salad or a tuna salad sandwich. That was like kind of like lucic. Like wait in line with sell out or something bad. I mean it just i think once again i think the way food is distributed made around the world is fascinating to me. You know having grown up like in a small town in new jersey and you kind of go of these places. It's so different since you have this insight. Is there any advice. or what. What would you tell marketers or or just those that are running these these you know stateside establishments to get to the quality or is it just doesn't does it not matter are people In the us just sort of. They've resigned to what it is because they don't know any better that's just how it is actually not in the us right now but mostly spending time in the us like you know as food gets kind of a bad name You know it's synonymous with you know. Just bad diet and stuff like that. But it's but it sounds like you know there's late at the end of the tunnel. Yeah i i think you know once again even think about like it's a treat for me it's like a. It's a lot when i travel. It's it's definitely not good for you. Like he. in some ways. I could eat it like i watched super size me and i'm like i think that was a guy. Mikey definitely eat a lot of mcdonald's but it's definitely not so i would incur. I wanted to say that. But i think like apart of the business model. Look i think if you look at a place like you know starbucks or even shake shack which is corporate owned versus franchise. Mcdonald's is franchise against its owner. It's individually operated by individuals. So i think you're gonna always get some variants. i mean. Obviously the the movie's called the founder. Like it's a great story of like how mcdonald's came about and actually how they're kind of more of a real estate company now than a fast food company. But then i think you know you look around and you look at things shake. Shack is a good example in the sense. That like you know the. I don't know the nutritional value but like the quality of the food. There is definitely like a step above. I think like. I don't think it's good for you but i think it's definitely. The quality is a little bit higher. I think you're getting the burger side. You're getting more local. Yelich five guys. You know things like that. You're getting different kinds of food. That is hopefully a little bit better for you A little bit higher quality you know but not too great a price you on. I think that's always going to be. I think the wrath on some of the food is the price you know the targeting of you know maybe lower income neighborhoods you know kind of creating this perpetual downward cycle of you know disease and diabetes. I think that's that's very very real. And i think it just partially because like in foreign countries these brands there so global brands like eating. You know like you know. They're not like fancy but like you know they're still global that you know like if you're in china you can. You can have great food off the street for a dollar so to go to mcdonald's or something like that it's going to cost you a couple more dollars. So it's it's almost a luxury i mean. Kfc's huge china but it still costs money. And so i think like the business model has evolved. Where i think in some places the us. Innovators dilemma of like they make a lot of money. One way can innovate in another way. We sort of started getting into this. Consider the show is that we don't talk about work right but how does like your insight into this in this stuff. You know Your mother running a seven eleven and you know just a love of like eating food and water from places. How does it inform or help you at all in your work. I mean. I don't know it informs once again. I think it's a. It's a natural curiosity to a lot of it. I think that. I think there's a you know for some of these things vary like there's a. There's a respect for even you come from google. I think there's a respect for scale. Look i read. Somewhere i don. This is anymore but money at one point like mcdonald's feeds like it's like one percent of the population. Looks something ridiculous like that. You kinda got admire like any business that can do so do something for that. Many people would like. How do they think about it. How do they Go about. I remember reading an article like a couple years ago about the new chef that was working there and when he came up with the chicken wrap or something and he wanted to add like a cucumber and it was like just by adding three slices of cucumber to this menu. They became like the fourth largest cucumber like purchaser in the world. Or something something ridiculous fact like that anyone. They introduce apples that little slices of apples they had to become one of the top five apple buyers in the world. You know and i think there is. And that's the power of you know when you think about brands and companies like you know i think that when these companies at the scale take a stand on whether it be nutrition or economic equality like they reach millions and millions of people in the same as for google and. I think that that's as a business you kind of have to think about. You know the the balance obviously generating revenue. What is the legacy whether whether your sustainability footprint whether it's your contribution to community economics take away anything. But i think there's always interesting things to insights to have from. How other businesses are ri- gets in that sense. You guys seen this show. Somebody feed fill fill is where the writers for everybody loves raymond or was and he goes on goes around the world and talks about internet cuisines in various places. He did as a an episode so allowed. The stuff is kind of touching on a lot of that stuff goes detox to create airlines than he kind of goes backstage backstage behind the curtain. Sort of in their sort of assembly line along the lines of of the quality being bumped up Overseas for fast food it also seemingly gets bumped up on airlines as well when you go anywhere outside of the us. Check it out the other one you should. You should think about her washes late because the other analogy is like. There's a netflix special. I think it's called street food medical asian street food or just street food. They go around and they look at. You know kind of hawker fares and street stalls. And i think you know i would imagine that you know in my generation growing up looking career tokyo. Like that's like your version of fast food. Like just walking into a hawker fare card stan and getting some duck bulkier commodity or something like that like some kind of fried squid or something. You know once again. I think insist it's it has the stall ju. It has the scale. It's not been out great for you. It's not you know look gourmet restaurant. But there's something to it that has value and meaning to you you know and i think that's probably the closest equivalent to like fast food. You know like in asia quite honestly. I think the other thing that my wife is every time we move. We've lived in you know. China korea japan america. There's no like sri food in america. Look at sick maybe a hotdog or something but like really nothing special. Nothing on main street. You gotta be in a big city. Yeah but even in new york growing up with a hot dog that in the classic. Nathan's now it's like he got the hall is pretty good food like at a food truck or a cart. You know kind of new york. San francisco is the food truck seeing which is really booming. Like you know. Senior six is like a vietnamese burrito. Plays that. it's just like that. I love that you know it's the equivalent of like you know maybe going back to the question of like the incubator of like slightly higher quality fast food but still like local and i just have one more question about this. Yeah it's not good for you but if it didn't matter if this is your last meal on earth and it's got to be fast food right back no three-star michelin restaurants. What would your meal be. What items would you choose. It doesn't have to be mcdonald's it can be any place but has the one singular fast food place. No is dante meal fantasy. Fast food Raft super thing. I mean i think. I mean once again i think you know a the classic chick fillet chicken. Sandwich is like it just. It's one of my favorites. So i think you gotta go there. I think you gotta go with shake shack fries. I think you gotta go with the new mcdonald draft the draft to drink exactly. Yeah spicy chicken nuggets. I think you kinda gotta go there. I think a drink. I mean i'm a classic coke zero guy when it comes to fast food so really you know could be anybody but whose whose fountain drink. I don't know i'm not. I'm definitely i don't go to that level. I mean i go back to the the black sesame shake at shake shack in tokyo definitely very very high on the list. I think you know Yeah i think that's kind of like the perfect meal. It's a lot of chicken chicken nuggets chicken sandwich. But i like chicken. My wife makes funded about that too. I like what is your life. Would you take her to a fast-food joining. We'll let us she order. Yeah it's a good question. She doesn't she doesn't call us together not she will only eat fast food wise in and out like. That's the only burger that it gives. It meets the bar for her. And it's still like maybe like twice a year You know a lot of times if it's like you know she's working or you know she's a she's traveling or she's out and just me and the girls like you know we'll do a little. We'll do fast food run here and there but yeah but yeah. I think it's Yeah she does not necessarily approve at all of it. You know but at the same time. She has good reason to not approve once again. Not great for you and you know. There are a lot of food options out there as well. I mean that that makes sense to me like you know if you're a chef. Usually specialize in you know a cuisine. You know several kinds of cuisine. But you know it's the thing that you don't make a certain level. Have someone else do it for like you know. You might get your great chef as you make a great animal style burger. Yeah i mean it goes back to you can like we talked about. I think gets It's different. It's a different like you know if you go to you know mitchell in two or three star restaurant you know you're you know they're cooking in a tremendous whatever twelve course meal for for maybe forty five people night versus you know serving hundreds or thousands of meals location. I think they both they both have innovation in you know it's like couture fashion versus like fast fashion. I think that they're they're just different things and so you know once again. I'm up for a vote for a good michelin two star restaurant. You know most days of the week as well so once again democratized eater. This podcast is brought to you by creo. 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I think that's the right way or at restaurants all the show on twitter at block party and you can email so that by party at at age dot com has also on twitter at eastern sherwood. And you can ask me at mass caroni on twitter and you can find me. I think i'm going to book a ticket to career. Me in and i would be happy to quarantine there for a couple of vs just so that i could sample them the delicious food. You can also listen to the show. Wherever you get your podcast fix just for adage a-block and hit that subscribe button. It would also be awesome if you left us a five star review. It's the best way to help other people find us and to help support the show. All right some marvin. This is not a lightning round because we are not asking you questions quickly. It is an endless. Because you're asking questions provoke beta beta special. You ready now but let's go. I think you'll be good at this. Here's the first question marvin. What is your first childhood memory. Bonus points if it's a jingle and you sing it me as a marketing person. I think you kinda get confused of like what you study. Heated what your actual. As a child of his. I grew up i ended up in the seventies as a latchkey kid. I watched a lot of tv l. The seventies was great for ad campaigns. I think life cereal likes it. Like i was a classic. The cable glasses. When i was little. I grew up during the pepsi challenge. You know like every mall ever went to just like a woman in a stand of like try coke or pepsi fast food you got a. Where's the beef. That was like really big. When i was a kid and then and then i still remember like at least i think i remember. My memory's not great the like watching the super bowl in nineteen eighty four when the apple commercial came on like kind of remember that actual watching it i was probably like eleven or twelve at the time so that was a pretty powerful growing up as a kid. So you know some of these things. Have you know some of these campaign still live. I feel like they've been david think most people don't know they've been around for decades quite awesome. Yeah it's interesting. The monkey commercial ran for like twelve years. Which is why everyone remember seeing it as a kid. 'cause like everyone did. Yeah when i did. Nike like people would talk about their favorite nike commercial and they would name like jordan commercial. That hadn't run in like fifteen years just because you're just brain that's how humans are think so all right next question. What is your karaoke goto song. This is tough. I mean i lived in asia for like eight years percents I'm a great karaoke spectator. I'm very supportive of my fellow karaoke people. But it's not my thing. I think if i buy had to go there i do you do you have to. I think by the lake. By the time. Like i get up there all the really generic like yelling songs. Like we are the champions. Were just really loud. Yelling already been taken. So i kinda feel like i'd have to go with like an like an eminem like a loser self like i feel like that's kind of a classic lake rhyme to come start with kind. Gets people going. It feels like a good answer. Second wind song for the night. Seem like we're not gonna jump up there. I definitely definitely not me. Oh so well in the last. Here's our follow up to that question. What do you love that. Everybody else also loves besides fast-food. I'm guessing Mean in the year we've had economy economy. Gotta go with kobe bryant. You know. i think like kobe in. I got to work with kobe. Nike you know a little bit in. He was profound. I haven't been la for the grammy's the weekend of the grammys when he passed So i think it hit me probably more than it would have virus sf. and so. And i think. I think when he was alive there was a lot of hate. You know for about him. But i think when he passed i think it was just phenomenal. Mba see you know we even talk like as a you know how more marking people have thought exercise. You're like who else could cause this much unification outpouring of love. You know you really. You know someone so young cut down in their cut down so young in their life of g g i think you kinda go koby. They're alive like lately. Like it's like taylor swift in black pink that's like all girls are listening to. So that's been just playing in the house all day. That is the most profound answer to this question that we have had yet to agree. Well done. let's see. Let's see how you handle the next one follow up. What do you love that. Everyone else hates. I think people would say any sleep. Llegado early like sleep and sleep that much and i i understand. People love sleep. They really needed a lot. but corn. cre-. I'm sleeping like three hours a day. Four hours a day and that's kind of what it's like now so i'd sleep would be one way but that's something that you hate that everyone else loves. What's something that you love that. Everyone else hates something that i i love. Not sleeping good answer. How all we'll out. The cia redeem yourself with the final question. Which is how your experience with fast food. Help you in the inevitable apocalypse. The one that is not currently happening the worst one. And what would you put in your bag. I think that in the event of an apocalypse like a a knowledge of fast food is probably the worst thing you could ask for us my guests so i don't think it's going to help me at all other than maybe being able to navigate streets without street signs based on landmarks of other fast food restaurants of and. I don't think you'd want to bring it with you like though there is all you know. I think there is all the the internet. Mcdonald's burr lastingly thirty years. But i don't think you want to go there. And i'm going to say look. Yeah absolutely zero value in this knowledge at all in the event of apocalypse your chef so i think that will be helpful and you'll make it through exactly. Yeah exactly. I think that's a hopefully hope. It doesn't come to that but you know that's the i think the chef and the kids are gonna go all right and with that. We are done marvin child. Vp of global marketing. Google thank you so much for being here. thanks so much. Great chatting Definitely the most interesting conversation. I've had very long time. We're glad he could obliged well. That's it for this episode. Block out from animation sherwood next week. I'm loving it.

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