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"emerson fittipaldi" Discussed on Past Gas
"It's not like that, but he was direction, so he was cool. He's more of a director now. He really cut his teeth. You know the office was his film school. Roger was surprised by the quick success of his new driver. Until the next run. Rusty wound up finishing 14th in a Monte Carlo at the national 500 in Charlotte, and that was not up to the Penske standard. One of the toughest things about that year was talking with roger after the race in Charlotte when he told me I should go get some more experience and that he hoped we would get a chance to work together again down the road. What 6 in my racing veins is not the winds. It's the disappointments. Roger said, maybe that's why the man tries not to be disappointed. Lucky for roger, rusty had more than earned his stripes throughout the 80s, taking home rookie of the year honors in 1984, and winning the Winston Cup championship twice. Rusty signed his own personal partnership with Miller brewing in 1990, so when Miller suggested teaming rusty back with Penske, it was a match made in heaven. I remember I asked roger if I had enough experience now, and he said, you sure do. Let's go racing. That's all I needed to hear. That's like Mel Blanc doing Bugs Bunny. Elmer fudd impression? Yeah. And that's all roger needed to. Rusty managed to earn 39 wins for Team Penske and Miller brewing between 1991 and 2005. When the driver retired from NASCAR competition altogether. Nice. Despite rusty's successes in NASCAR, the 90s were a bit of a struggle on the IndyCar side. And remember, it's the disappointments that eat at the perfectionist Penske the most. Going into the Indy 519 95, roger and Team Penske were feeling good. Teammates Emerson Fittipaldi and Al Unser junior had been having great seasons. Answered junior had won the Indy 500 a year before and had just finished second in the cart championship. So the team had high hopes for him, but a series of missteps during qualifying would spell disaster for the team. The crew couldn't get the Penske built PC 23s or PC 24 up to speed. So neither driver even attempt to qualify that first weekend. Desperate to get his drivers into the race, roger brought a new reynard chassis to see if that can help. But it didn't. So, he bought a pair of 1994 Lola Mercedes Benz chassis from Rahal Hogan racing. Those were even slower. Answers engine then blew during a run that should have qualified him for the race, and roger himself waved off a Fittipaldi run that could have qualified him. After the shock of not qualifying, roger said to the press, quote? I gotta take the responsibility for not getting into the race. But a lot of my fellow team owners came up to me and offered me help, and I want to thank them for that, from the bottom of my heart, we are not going to buy our way into this race. We had an opportunity to compete on a level playing field and we did not get the job done, okay? All right. Roger never wanted to feel that sting again. The turn of the century was all about hitting milestones for roger and Team Penske in 2000 Tim cindric was promoted as the new president of Team Penske in the hopes that he could lead the team to win their 100th IndyCar win. What is Cedric sound like? The team hadn't won a race since 1997. When the cranberries released their second. The higher paid off Penske came back to the Indy 502,001 and won it. Three years in a row. That's a turkey. That's a turkey. Them winning is the most memorable thing that happened in 2001 for America. Cedric would also lead Team Penske to their first Daytona 500 win in 2008. Again, the most memorable thing to happen in America in 2008. In a highly contested final turn, Penske driver Kurt Busch pushed his teammate Ryan Newman into the finish line, winning the race's 50 of the anniversary in the charger. Did he actually like push him? Yeah, like Ricky Bobby. Yeah. With successes in NASCAR and IndyCar in the states, roger wanted to expand his racing kingdom, and his business empire, in order to build the Penske brand in Australia, roger now, 77 years old, entered the Australian V8 supercar scene in 2014. All right, now I'm interested. Okay, finally, 25 pages in. Team Penske partnered with dick Johnson. Dick Johnson again. Australia. Penis. My name is penis penis. My name's penis wiener. My name's Willie penis. Willie dong. And he did what he always did. Invested in the people and the drivers and smoked the competition with 56 wins, 62 poles and 6 championships, including three consecutive drivers titles with Scott McLaughlin. Dick Johnson on the pole again. We're not feeling real cocky. We're not for the pandemic. The partnership with Penske and super car likely would have created even more championships, but roger was forced to sell his share in October 2020. He got out pretty quick. Real quick. I saw the name Tim Cedric sounded real familiar and current NASCAR driver, Austin Cedric. Four Team Penske. Wow. Nepotism much? I mean, that's a lot of NASCAR's. I know. Everyone's dad. If you want to be a race car driver, you're Dan has got to be your best friend. What does one of the most successful men in the history of motor sport do when he's in his 80s and his nearly won it all? He goes out to win the rest. The 24 Hours of Le Mans is one of the only major victories Team Penske hasn't won. But it's on Rogers bucket list. Well, he better hurry 'cause he's about to kick it. Roger himself raced in Le Mans when he was 26 years old alongside teammate Pedro Rodriguez. The pair raced for the North American racing team in a Ferrari three 30 TRI LM. The car that had won the year prior. At our 9, however, an oil line bursts while roger was driving and destroyed the engine, or as roger said, I blew it up. This past summer, Team Penske took an areca O 7 Gibson LMP two car shared by Felipe Nasser, Dane Cameron, and Emmanuel collar to the 24 Hours of Le Mans, and it was consistently in the top three for a good portion of the race, though Team Penske finished 5th overall. But if we've learned anything about Roger Penske, is that he's going to work himself and his team to the bone until they come back even stronger. That's how you've managed. That's how you manage your work people to the bone. He's going to rub dick Johnson to the bone. Roger Penske has already made his name synonymous with victory in racing. And that legacy will likely last long after he's gone. In January 2020, Penske bought the Indianapolis Motor Speedway ensuring that his hold on the sport would last. With 18 Indy 500 wins, Team Penske already has the most wins at the world famous complex. I owned the track on the inside, now I'm gonna own the track on the outside. The joke Joker.
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"emerson fittipaldi" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Hit wonder. That probably this probably is the definition of that, isn't it? And I'd also go as far as is it not one of the ugliest winners in the car I mean? Yes. Not getting pasta. Just to just get a lovely man. Yeah, yeah, but the car. I was horrible, I noses. Lots to remember about that race. And he finished 3.2 seconds up the road from Alonso. He did pull away in the closing stages. I think Fernando even then was like, I'm not going to do it. This is not my day check. But it's funny to think that Williams had one last good era after that. The martini years. And they never actually won a race. Victory. Yeah, I mean, when they were quick, they were still normally quite a long way back from Mercedes. They went Red Bull Ferrari was still getting their act together in the turbo hybrid era. They were second best, but they were still a margin behind Mercedes that would put them probably fourth or 5th now. But they were unlucky the one didn't drop. But I think that they also a little bit tentative with their strategy a couple of times when they probably had the chance to go after they had massive running ahead of Bottas when they should have swapped them and just a little bit off on their strategy against the team that was just used to winning every week. And that sort of conservative approach out of the time of we know we're not fighting Mercedes in the championship here, but fighting the rest of the round there is like, well, it's bank the points that's not gamble and throw it away, which that was their focus at the time. So you sort of can excuse us a little bit. There's a lot to be said for the experience of winning and understanding what it takes to win. And getting used to that habit of winning the teams who suddenly find themselves in that situation. They haven't been there before or for a long time. It's struggle. And I think that's a good example of that, isn't it? Yeah, definitely. That's what makes the 2012 Spanish Grand Prix even more incredible, really. Okay. Who is on top of the podium? Jean Pierre bell to ask 1972 Monaco Grand Prix. As a career, he perhaps not ahead of some of the ones later on this, a decent career and actually had been quick in the wet before. But I spoke to Tony Southgate about this, he was the BRM designer and who's just on his way out the door at this point. But he said, you know, Bill sauce is great to work. We've actually because I said to him after Pedro Rodriguez and Joseph, it did you feel a bit, you know, obviously that was a terrible time. But did you feel a little bit like you're lacking on the drive run? Well, not really because Jean Pierre was really good. He was genuinely good and actually the following year he outscored teammates Nikki louder and clay Rick zone. So pretty actually pretty probably a better drive than perhaps remembered but had a sort of weak arm which affected him perhaps in the dry bit. But in the wet, the reason this is here is none of that is because it's just one of the great wet weather performances. He's a fourth on the grid, which was now being feet in the P one 60 B, which was not a cutting edge F one car at that point. It wasn't even BRM's current car. The P one 80 hadn't been made to work yet. So they were using the older car. And he storms through from fourth, grabs the lead and then disappears down the road. Jackie takes a little while to get back into second, and I think if you read the contemporary reports, there's an expectation that once X is into second, the wet weather master will catch bell to ours. Now he finishes nearly 40 seconds by 38.2 seconds behind and he said places Emerson Fittipaldi on his way to in the world championship and he was lapped. Wow. It's just amazing where the drives that may or may not appear in a future episode of series three, top ten podcasts. So I think it's in the outstanding drive that stands comparison with the great drives of multiple champions and race winners, and that's why it's on the list. It's funny, isn't it? If he was watching the World Cup at the moment, you see goals or performances from Lionel Messi or and everyone raves bam. And someone fairly unknown does exactly the same thing. And you go, that was great. As I just kind of forgotten quickly, and this is kind of that thing with bell toises. If he was a Fittipaldi or Stuart, this would be amongst their greatest winds and one of the great drives of all time. But because of Jean Pierre beltoise, it's kind of overlooked, doesn't it? So yeah. Very good choice to put it number one. So I'm sure you'll be delighted for being there. Number one on this list then, they will take that. I mean, South Gate is saying the V12 was probably the nice smooth delivery. He was a good engine at that point and obviously you can throw in Jack Stuart's on the wrong tyres into that actually at that point suffering from a duodenal ulcer which would actually make him miserable. But I think that on that day it was just a great drive irrespective of who it was. I was going to ask that about what was it about the car, the engine, the familiarity with that machine, the driver on the day, familiarity with that circuit. What was it? Well, I think the V12 was smooth, which would have helped out. The cosmos DFV was known as a bit of it was a bit rough. So it was obviously the engine of the era. But 71, the V12 was still probably good enough to almost scoot the F in 72. It was kind of fading, but it was still very smooth engine, which as say Southgate suggested helped. I think bell to ours, if he did have any kind of physical limitation because of his arm, wasn't so obvious in the wet. And I think he was just he was just one of those drivers in the mood on a track that reward in a track and conditions where it rewarded someone being a virtue of virtuoso performance. There is some footage of it. He's quite lurid at times. You know, he's because he's taking chances in traffic and because an issue is always not in the spray, just pulling away. But he just carried on pulling away and diving. So he just inspired. So I think it was a combination of right car, right driver, right place, right conditions. And there's no luck involved. For others, you could say, whereas others we've mentioned quite a few times on this list, particularly the upper end. Yeah, they need certain things to go their way for others to hit misfortune or whatever. None of that you could apply to this. See where you've got this. And also just out of nowhere as well. I didn't score anything else in that year. Is that right? No, I don't think it's good any other any other points. Just ridiculous. Sort of makes it stand out even more. You would see the results of the page where has that come from. But this random little factor as well. This is the one time that they ran the Monaco girl and proved that slightly different pit entry around the back. So on the swimming pool where it was now the swimming pool and they did the chicane in a different place and had the pits on that side. Was it the last tubercles swimming pool? Could pull around that time. Yeah, not sure. It was doing that during that period. It's not quite sure it might have been a little bit later. I have to have to check. But yeah, I think just followed Hayden's point. I think the top two belshaw is a Maldonado. They went out and won those races and there was no question about it. The difference is that I think Maldonado, that's an outstanding race for pastor Maldonado. The bell Charles is just an outstanding race for this outstanding performance. I like that idea of him lapping drivers at the hairpin and then sort of doing a double take. And what the hell is that? Belt Schwartz's flew past sideways. What? Love that thought. Hey, a brilliant podcast today. We'd always love to hear from you. By the way, you can email us podcast at autosport dot com when I reckon it's Kevin was shakes his head. No, or a well reasoned argument. You love one of those from a fairly together. I do, to be fair,
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"emerson fittipaldi" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"What? That story is on the way stick around. All right, welcome back to the podcast. Let's get into the 72 season then. I mean, it wouldn't even get you to the summer break these days, 12 races. And half as many as we're heading to the heading towards next year. And his record was 5 wins and three podiums, which was enough in 72 to completely dominate. These days, it wouldn't, but coming off the back of what Verstappen has just done. But that was in 72. That was a proper domination of a season. Until he won, because he didn't score anything after Italy. You say domination, but I mean, obviously Stuart did win four times. Of course, yeah, of course. Having missed one race and as I say, I think Ben ill for at least one possibly two. There were 16 points between them at a time and I think it was 9 points for a win. So yeah, I mean, we're not talking domination Max Verstappen in 2020. To clinch it in a 12 race season with two rounds to go, you know, is pretty good. I mean, early on in the season, MO and Jackie kind of the base had a reasonable start in terms of pace. Stuart won the first race in Argentina in my retirement was second in South Africa and then one in Spain. So it was a fairly even stop. But then there's that middle campaign. Monaco, Emma gets a third place behind the Jean Pierre bales masterclass, but bell scholars are never going to be a champion contender. So that's a bonus. Obviously, am I then won the Belgium will probably win to do it wasn't there. Stuart won the French cornbread. I think one of the best races of the season and I'd like to put it to ammo that this arguably was a better drive than his race in my life. I think he picks that for other reasons. But the British Grand Prix, which is a three way fight between Stuart and Fittipaldi. The three drives of the year. And it's proper flat out chasing each other for the entire length of the race. A little bit of overtaken as well, I think. At MO comes out on top and to beat that company, that's a proper when you've got to deliver you deliver, which for a guy is only in his second full season of F one and against the guys already double world champion. I think that's for me, that's his standout standout race of the season. Can you explain back in the 70s what dropped points were and why it wasn't as simple as going to a race the first 6 races of the year scoring your points and going away with that's what you've got. How did the point system work back then? Confusingly and ridiculously. And they changed it as well. From year to year they did different things sometimes it was ridiculous. So for that particular season, the best 5 results from your first 6 races counted. And then the best 5 results from the second half of the season counted. Now, quite often, that means you wouldn't actually drop points because in those days, you'd probably have a retirement in either half of the season. But it did mean that if you had, let's say you had four, four wins a second and a third in the first half of the season. Your third wouldn't count for anything. So those four points wouldn't, as it would have been then four points wouldn't count. And your two hearts of the season are added together. Brilliant. Now they've got even more complicated in the late 70s and early 80s before they went. Do you know what should we just count all the race? Count the points. Which I think was sanity really, but actually, if you look at the 72 championship point, I don't think anyone dropped any points. Wow. Is that drop points is only changed the outcome of the title twice. Here's a fun little fact. Right. 1964, Graham hill would won the world championship rather than John cities if they weren't drop points. So he would have won by one as their loss by one and more controversially perhaps 1988. The Senate prostitute Prost score more points than Senna but lost on the dropped scores rule well, there we go. Twice. Before we get to Italy, let's just talk through the season any races that you want to pick out or highlight. You mentioned Silverstone already anything else or should we just get to the decider? Yeah, I think I think the one that stands out to me as I say is the British Grand Prix really. So I'm happy. Well, I like to all that Monaco 72, but that's just a classic. Which I'll talk about all the time. So we should probably, yeah, let's talk about, let's talk about Monza. And let's talk about how they were getting there. Now, in the race of my life, interview that we did. He said, I couldn't believe it. Here I was going to the championship decider and the truck crashes on the freeway. 60 miles before Milano. And then myself and Peter wore drove on. We saw spare parts on the grass everywhere the Italians were trying to grab them as souvenirs. The team were just trying to stop them. I looked at that scene and I couldn't believe this was my car. A few days before, I was going to decide my world championship. So a heck of a story before you even get there, and I think before the race he had a fuel leak as well. It was like just like the omens weren't looking good, you know. I think that's probably why I picked it as the race of his life. I think for me raised my life is because I can be that removed from it and I try and be less emotional. Which is stupid because it's like kind of enthusiast. We love it all. But I try and be right. What was your best drive? Is kind of what I mean. And that's why I put picked out his brands hatch win the British Grand Prix. But I think from an emotional perspective, it's a short crash to fuel link on the grid. The coal isn't working in practice. For hours very quick. Home of Homer for I to Fauci, you know, you're pretty unpopular if you're not driving a Ferrari normally. And everything was against him. So to then not only clinch the championship, but to win the race as well, become the youngest world champion. I think his dad was commentating on it as well. He was for Brazilian radio. Yeah, which is really cool. Imagine having your dad commentated you win the world championship. That's pretty amazing. So you can kind of see why he's picked. I mean, there's a race. It wasn't particularly remarkable, it was the next best behind the fryer. You chased the fries the fries broke he won. So if you were doing a top ten list of Emerson Fittipaldi's rides, which of course I am. Quick plug for a future. I don't know why not get it done, but I'd like to speak to him about it actually, but that's a work in progress. But it wouldn't be my number one choice for him, which makes that a bit presumptuous, but I mean purely from the driving point of view, but there's a holistic look at the story of this ridiculous weekend from road crash with the truck to fuel leak to championship victories, a remarkable remarkable story. And tell us a little more about how that race went because he was going into it knowing that it was the possibility he'd break the record youngest world champion. How did the head of the Grand Prix pan out? You mentioned a little bit already, but yeah, it was a site. It was one of those weekends where the Ferrari season was quite an odd one. Which year am I talking about listening? It could be almost any. But yes, obviously, they're usually those days for our usual really good engine, either V12 or in this case, a flat 12, which now mons, of course, these are the first year of chicanes. So because 71 had been that incredible streaming Peter gethin faster. I think even F one is sentenced to me. Oh, that's a bit quick, isn't it? A 150 miles an hour average. So I always put some chicanes in, which costs everyone hated. As they still do. Yes. So yeah, it wasn't a great practice.
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"emerson fittipaldi" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"For me, a great achievement was when I won the Formula One World Championship at Monza. I won the race, and I won the championship. Those are the words of Emerson Fittipaldi in a previous podcast we did for the race of my life series. We'll put a link to that in the show notes. You can have a listen to that show after this one. Well, we may be a few days into 2023, but just before Christmas at the end of last year, I sat down with autosports, chief editor Kevin Turner. To talk about one of the records in Formula One, which took decades to break. And that is Emerson Fittipaldi's. His world championship drive with lotus, and there's a whole bunch of celebrations which kicked off around the 50th anniversary of that actual event of the actual race in Italy. A few months ago, and those celebrations are continuing. Lotus the carmaker these ozone by the Chinese company gigli have unveiled a tribute vehicle to Emerson Fittipaldi and that win 50 years ago. He dominated the 1972 season in the lotus 72 D, becoming the youngest ever Formula One World Champion. As we've just had the 50th anniversary of that incredible record breaking win, let's talk about it with our chief editor Kevin Turner. Was it man? Was it machine or a combination of both? How did he do it? And why did it take so long to break that record that stood let's find out and get up to speed with Kevin now, let's join Kevin when I spoke to him just before Christmas in our office in London and he seemed pretty happy about talking about something from 50 years ago. Oh yeah, this is right in my street. This I was very pleased when you emailed me about this one again. How do you fancy how many chapter 1972 in Emma seems to be? Yes, please. Yes, please. Let's do that. Well, of course, the reason that I saw it was the 50th anniversary and lotus the car company as it is these days were releasing a special edition of one of their road cars. I forget which one, but it brought to mind, yes, we missed the actual anniversary earlier this year, but it is indeed 50 years when Formula One gained a new world champion. Younger than any before, this kid from Brazil that many people might have thought had kind of come from nowhere, but indeed he hadn't because he had been racing in the UK and here in Europe. We're going to find out his story of how he got there and then how he won. So let's build up to that. What was his, what was his path in motor sport? How did he end up in UK and European racing series? Long before Formula One. Well yeah, I mean, in those days, the UK was where you came to get your career started. Obviously, formula four had started in 1967 and that very quickly became the place for aspiring racing drivers to be MLK over to do that. And did the usual climbing up the back when it was a bit more of a straightforward ladder. Although to be fair, if I have tried to make that more sense, we recent years. But yeah, so he came up. He came up the UK ranks. He was known in European circles very early. And of course he was the first sort of big name Brazilian to come across. He sort of paved the way for Nelson Piquet and sent to come along later on. But the thing that sort of thrust him, I think the reason if you like that we're talking about him as the youngest wheel champion until Fernando Alonso took that off him. Was because of what happened at lotus. So he was started. He started off in the old lotus 49 in 1970 as kind of almost the second or third string car. In the late 72 winning the championship and then joachim was killed at Monza. And really MO stepped up and won his fourth world champion and the U.S. company, which also clinched the chance if a joker, because he met Jackie X couldn't catch him, and suddenly he was team leader. So is this kind of rapid rise and then the loss of his I believe joachim was a very helpful to MO in his early days he speaks very highly of him. But yes, I suddenly there you are. You're a young Brazilian and you're leading the world championship winning Formula One team. And he was very young because he won the world championship, like I said when he was 25 years old and that would stand for decades until Fernando Alonso came along and then that record has changed hands a few times since then, but it stood for so so long. Tell me about that car then. The load of 72 D so he wasn't new to Formula One that year, but and that car that chassis that engine tell us a little bit about that and what kind of machinery was he driving as he came into 72. Well, so the load of 72 we did a piece on this a couple of years about where we kind of decided it was the greatest competition car of all time. It's not sort of a game changing quite the same way that say the load 49 was with the DFV and stress member, but it sets the template for a single seater looks like that chisel nose, radiators on the side. But it had a very interesting life. So it had all sorts of weird and wonderful anti squat anti dice suspension that didn't really work when it first came out, written hated driving it. But they worked away, worked till I worked away. When Emma got hold of it in 1970, it was obviously won the championship. So it's kind of there, but then it was thrown by 1971 obviously he was still inexperienced, probably wasn't ready to fight for the championship at that point, but also firestone introduced slick ties in 1971. And that really changed how the cars used the rubber. So it actually required quite a lot of suspension tweaks to get that stick to work and of course some bits were fragile, lotuses could be a bit fragile, so some bits are broken. In 71, the Colin Chapman had got a bit carried away with the lotus 56 B turbine car, which MO did drive, it was like and he was probably right to be a bit and I think over the winter in December 2 they had new funding from John player special cement from that cool gold leaf livery to an even cooler black, the black and gold JPS delivery. They got suspensions, although they got it working on the tyres, Emma was ready. So if you look at the end of 71 actually, they are beginning to pick up results. So the kind of the signs were there. But yeah, yeah, they were quite evenly
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"emerson fittipaldi" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"And Colin Chapman was its head and Graham stepped up when he really needed to. I think I would argue the other way around, obviously it's fairly hard. It's fairly hard to come back from the team lotus might not have existed in terms of how much Graham hill was sort of essential to picking him up after Clark. And I also get that when they were teammates in 69 70, obviously rin was demonstrably faster than hill. But then again, at that time, what hill was what 38 39 40 that is not a driver in his prime, even at that time. But if you look at the numbers, I suppose, if you're going to argue them the other way around, Graham hill four wins from 60 races for lotus. So that's 6.7%, which is the third lowest in this list. So you've got Elio de Angeles in his island on to two, 3%, then Graham hill, and then it's a big step up another 12% before you get to Santa who is next on this list. So in that, whereas rin a third of a third of all race is pretty much he won so 6 from 1932% if you round up, you know, what's that some quick math? That's 5 times 5 times a hit rate of zero. So I think yeah, it comes back to that's why these are great pub chats because it's a nuance between how do you rank a driver as a purely on what they did in the cockpit or is it what else they bring to the team and obviously Kev's gone for one factor I would go for the other just to spice up this podcast a bit. I also know that Kevin would very much appreciate you rounding those numbers up there when it comes to sub editing our work, of course. But let's move on to the driver at number three. It's Emerson Fittipaldi, drove for lotus between 1970 and 1973, 42 world championship races for the team, 9 victories and the 1972 world title. So Kev, why is fit about at number three? Yeah, I think this is one of those lists where the top three pick themselves really. So if it's a pouty was left to, I mean, he was thrust into the sort of number one role at lotus when rint was killed and he was only he won what was only his fourth world champion Grand Prix start. Which was a race that also clinched the world title posthumously. He then was there for 1971 when they had trouble getting the low 72 working on the firestone slicks. Worked diligently away at that. And he then went one the world championship in 1972 could have won in 73. He delivered titles. He contributed to two constructors titles took at drivers championship and he's one of the great figures in lotus history, really. Matt how do you reflect on Fitzpatrick in latest history? Yeah, this is the point in a list where I really sort of stood back because for the longest time I was expecting Fittipaldi to be in second place. And then I don't want to spoil the rest of the rank on his list. I won't say too much, but then I actually, I've come to agree on Kev. Basically, on the fact that we last year rated the lotus 72 is the greatest Grand Prix, car of all time. Fittipaldi wasn't part of building that team that won the title. He came in and basically made the most of the brilliant tools he had at his disposable to win the championship with lotus obviously becoming the youngest world champion whereas I think particularly the next driver is less than a one in and the one who talks to this list. They built championship titles sort of teams and structures and were much more of a part of that success and Fittipaldi who did a brilliant job but with what were clearly the best tools in the late 72. Can give you some more numbers there. It was 9 wins from 42 starts for lotus, which is a win percentage of 21 and a half percent. And that is, where's that? That's about fourth on this list. So moss and jochen rind have 33% hit rate there or thereabouts. And then the driver and number one is 35%. So yeah, fit party about halfway. Who could it possibly be at number one? Well, let's reveal it now, as you say, obviously. It's not as bad as when we did the Ferrari one and trying to not disclose Michael Schumacher's number one. No, I mean, it is the challenge of doing this discussing these lists in podcast form is it's like, well, it's a natural progression of going down the order, but how do you not talk about who's coming up next? But anyway, I think we've handled it reasonably well. I think that would be a fair assessment. Let's get on to top two as ever will reveal them both together, so Kev can explain why they're in a particular in that particular order. At number two, spike about him earlier, Mario Andretti drove for lotus between 1968 and 1969 in a limited program and then fully in 1976 to 1980, 79 world championship races for lotus 11 wins and of course the 1978 world title. At number one, I think again mat said much like Michael Schmidt in the Ferrari list at number one, Jim Clark drove for largest between 1960 and 1968, 72 races in the world championship 25 victories and most famously two world titles, one in 1963 and one in 1965. So Kev, as you say in your piece, how could it be anyone else having Clark at number one? Was there ever a case of Andretti being able to pip him on any front? No, no, really. I mean, I suppose you would say that Mario is probably technically better from a technical point of view. I think he could probably explain what a racing car was doing better than Clark certainly in Clark's early days. I think Colin Chapman did a lot of the translating, if you like. Jim tells you what the car is doing and Colin works out what that means of what he then needs to do. The car was I think Mario was probably a bit further down the road of his understanding of what the car needed to the point actually where he pointed out to Colin Chapman that the ground effect car needed to be stiffer. Colin ignored him and Patrick headwind and did what later shoot it down with the FW O 7. It wasn't really close. I mean, Mario is ahead of MSG powder, he's probably carrying a cover that off first, because really Matt kind of alluded to it there. He joined lotus when they were in the doldrums. 75 had been atrocious season. They not won a race. And he knuckled down to rebuild with them..
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"emerson fittipaldi" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"And 1976 and in 1978, 59 races for lotus and 9 wins, no titles, Kev, why is Peterson at number 7? I think if you speak to people that work with him, and the new he's placing the team. In fact, Clive Chapman, who helped to write, helped to range that track test that Matt was doing that earlier. Everyone loved Ronnie. He was a fantastic character, very popular. No side to him. And did play the team game. So in 1978, how much he did have to let Mary Andretti would I think he's entirely open to debate as a separate podcast in itself, but the fact is Marianne Andretti put in the effort to develop that car. He'd help build lotus into a force again with the ground effects, cars. And Ronnie accepted that. He was signed as number two, and he played that game. And he helped the winning constructors championship. So that was 1978. But it also shown that he had the he could do the heroic, the heroic drive. In 1973, he was the fastest driver of the season with the late 72, unreliability letting down took him a little while to get into his stride. And ultimately he lost the world championship or lotus lost the world championship, really because they were up against Jackie Stewart putting in. I think one of the finest campaigns in F one history. I think in most other seasons, Emerson Fittipaldi all Ronnie Peterson win that title. He then takes three fantastic victories as the load symptoms gets more more and more long in the tooth. Spectacular driver, and I think if you think of iconic Formula One images, a lot of people with a certain age will say Ronnie Peterson's sideways, it would cut in a load of 72. He couldn't drive the team forward. He wasn't a setup development driver. But he was a great person to have in the team and he played his part in two constructors titles in a driver's start for Marianne dress. So in terms of impact, I thought he had to be there. He had to be right up there. This is probably the one I'd swap around with Senna in particular, so again, as with these lists, if you argue somewhat in or change the order, then I think it's only fair that you make a valid case for someone to come down. Although I hope I hope my argument is valid, but I'm obviously a fantastic driver watched their super sweet documentary that came out and learned a hell of a lot about the person if you like as well as the driver and prestigious talent, but I think the thing that I'd argue the case for swapping him and center and putting pizza in down to down to 8th place is that he had teammates win championships in the same car. And so I think that probably has to detract something. Yes, I know. I know there is that debate about how much he was forced to let Mario win that Andretti take the championship, but I think Andretti put himself in that position by being the quicker driver. And again with the 72, it was long in the tooth by, you know, by the time it beats him and still driving it and sort of 75, but it was a car that Fittipaldi as his teammate took the championship in. So I think because it wasn't Peterson doing those feats. Should effectively a very good, but number two driver, go ahead of someone who led the team so emphatically like Santa did. Yeah, I think that's a very fair point in to argue against myself further. I think that Matt's point about senator being the driving force. And in fact, he was very key in pushing things on with Honda. And also with the active suspension in 1987, he was key in pushing that along and realizing that actually he'd been the qualifying driver, if you like for the previous two seasons, he immediately changed tack and went the strength of this system is making the tyres last in the race. So he only has a couple of polls that mid 87, but. Is a factor in the races using that strength. So I think in that sense you could argue Senna ahead of head of Peterson. There's the longevity and the kind of emotional element for Ronnie that I think works better. Let's not forget he was obviously he was killed in a lotus in the 1978 Italian Grand Prix. But yeah, that's one of those reasons why this is one of the reasons why these two kept changing on my original list. So I'm very happy to see to queues that argument on that one. Although I did want to argue back at me, perhaps he could look to the win ratio, which I can quote quite here as well. Pete said 9 wins from 59 world championship races, which is a percentage of 15.25, which it pops in sort of a 3% higher up than center for what it's worth. Indeed, well, moving on to the driver at number 6, it's Sterling moss, drove for lotus between 1960 and 1961 as privateer. 12 races in the world championship took four victories and no titles Kev, why is moss at number 6? So this is really difficult to place because it's kind of judging more money than a different criteria because he didn't drive for team lotus. So I could have excluded him altogether..
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"emerson fittipaldi" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"I don't think Verstappen wins that race. I think he maybe he gets closer to make one move. And I get frustrated when people are like, you know, in an ideal world, yeah, you wouldn't have the RS. But people do look back 20 years ago and yearn for that era that's always on the cusp of like, oh, it's better back then. It was better back then. Which area are you talking about? You're talking about gym Clark, you're talking about Emerson Fittipaldi. Michael schema, what do you mean? It's always the same thing, right? But those races were people remember those amazing key moments, but it was just tended to be just one. It wasn't necessarily constant wheels wheel fighting. I think with this the it's the same in Bahrain. It wasn't going to go on forever, and it was the same here. It just worked for that period of time. And they're so clever the way they were using it. Max adapted his approach. I think Jesse, you're right. He does seem to be sort of, he has changed, or the early evidence suggests he is sort of paying the longer game that really was evidence today because he had to wait until later on in the stint because that was just the way it played out with tires and he said he knew that I think he was like, I can't do my usual thing and go all out on the attack early on. He waited, he by the time he realized what the glow is doing in terms of using the second ARS to get back to you. He's like, no, you're not doing that again. And what was brilliant was leclerc immediately recognized that. So they both lock up. Leclerc hits on the gas and just heads off. It's like the peripheral vision. You know that helmet cam, you saw leclerc and Bahrain going left, right, left, right, left. How on earth they see anything is tremendous. Just the spatial awareness to know what your ride was doing, you're listening, you're feeling your hearing. It's just tremendous stuff there. But yes, I think people complain if you're complaining about that. I mean, are you ever going to enjoy Formula One? If that's what you're complaining about, you know, yeah. A couple of things that I loved about today was firstly, the two cars, the two teams set their cars up differently. So you had that top end pace from Red Bull and then you had the Ferrari that could pull away in sector one. In the race, it was max that topped out the speed trap at 334.6 kilometers an hour. Bottom of the 18 runners that run was Ferrari. Carlos Sainz, 318 and then slightly above him in 16th Charles Charles was at 320. So you've got an offset there of 14 kilometers an hour and then layer on top that slipstream, then layer on top, the DRS, and there was just that at that offset that made great racing and this new rule set, a new cars where different teams not only they'd look different visually, the bits that we can see. They're setting their cars up differently, but Alex, let me ask you, you're going to be flying out to Melbourne in a couple of weeks time while flying before. Two weeks. It's a week today. Experiment, Melbourne, no DRS. Like, would that shut up? Everybody don't wake up to the race. Right? So that's not the doubters. Would there be a terrible Melbourne race? It's not been on the calendar for two years. I think that's a fair. I don't think that's a fair circuit to test this out on because holy moly. It would stop it would stop. I like the idea of experiment Martin, but please can we not do it outside? That's like, RIP F one, I think. So I think there's three things there and one is to live so relentlessly in the real world. But you can't just have one race run to different rules. I got annoyed about that with the sprint races last year. It's like, haven't fine experiment with race weekend format. Don't have them count for championship points, because that's just not fair, really. And it would be to say it would be the same with Melbourne but I think the bigger problem is you would have one very boring race. They've done a lot of track changes, they've invested a lot of money, that great organization, the Australian Grand Prix corporation. I know they're really we're looking forward to having the race back and a lot of they have had to cap ticket numbers on fairly sure because they just can't get the number of officials and the way things are going to be managed for the COVID rules and things like that. Phenomenal race, I'm sorry looking forward to going back there. But yeah, I just don't think I just don't think having garris would work out, but I think what's really interesting is that don't forget, I think the way they reach those speeds are completely different. So the Ferrari hybrid upgrade they introduced at the end of last year packs one hell of a punch. So they accelerate off the corners really, really, really fast. The Red Bull has a much lower drag philosophy, so it is able to hit a higher top speed, but the Ferrari can get to its top speed quicker. So it balances it out quite nicely. I do, however, suspect that if the rebels were to look out the front row, I don't think Ferrari would see them by the finish. I think it's clearly a slightly peak year car or Red Bull just operationally. We saw that last year when it came to getting the best out of the tyres in what I still maintain was the fastest package last year. They're not necessarily a 100% all over it. But I do suspect they have just a fundamentally stronger package all round. So if it were to be rebel start in front, I think DRS or an earlier IRS, I still think Red Bull wins that fight. Yeah, I think Paris Paris was on for the win today, really. If you hadn't have been absolutely scuppered by latifah's crash. Lizzie, if he giveth, but he also taketh away. I think in the case of Red Bull. It's been a whole 24 hours since he'd been into the wall, so he was due a crash. You've got Alban coming in alongside him on a year out. And with the greatest of respect to Alban, who was a phenomenal racing driver, he isn't George Russell, and yet he's not having the problems that he's having. It is a difficult package obviously he's not where Williams wanted to be. But yeah, struggle was when you third year for Nicholas Steve, that's a bit difficult. It's just very quickly on Sergio Pérez, Jess. I don't know. I have a sneaking suspicion. His tyres did seem to be going off just a little bit towards that stint leclerc was coming back to him. Christian Horner says, yeah, that was the lap they were already planning on pitting, so strategically they didn't lose out they were obviously just completely scooted over by the safety car. But I wonder whether leclerc would have been able to get him towards the end of the race. And then the amount of time I'm sure max would have been his waived by. I wonder whether that in itself would have meant that leclerc just drives away in just about holds on. I'm not really sure. I think the safety car ultimately did destroy Perez's race, but it also might have saved Verstappen's race if that makes sense. It's one of those things like we just all never know where it is, or.
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"emerson fittipaldi" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"I see the field, right? So he was fantastically fast at McLaren, didn't quite get the job done now. Some of that was obviously due to the car reliability, but they're also things like flat spotting the tire at the Nurburgring. I know that he was very unfortunate. Last year that longer brilliant, but really it was being put under pressure by someone in a car that wasn't as fast. And I think Fernando Alonso was the right person to win the 2005 titles. I think Kimi was faster Fernando was better, essentially. And yeah, it just never caught a distinct quite come together for him. And of course, the last season that he had there actually was the least one of the least competitive for McLaren, although of course, again, the same with the Jensen argument you can really blame Kimmy for that as such, but there are people at mccarran say he's just his feedback just wasn't enough. There wasn't he might tell you something once, but he wouldn't wear a mask Schumacher or even probably a Lewis would make absolutely damn sure that you knew what he wanted. Kimmy was like, well, if you haven't, if you haven't done that, you haven't done it. It's a spectacularly fast. I think it really sums up his career. Spectacularly vast brilliant on his day but didn't make the most of the skills and talent that he obviously had. I think between 2003 and 2005, there was no faster driver on the planet than Kimi, honestly, I think that the Michelin tyre in that era really suited his driving style. He just sort of seamlessly filled the hole that Mika left at McLaren. He arrived and the 2002 Ferrari was a dominant car, but he was already there fighting. 2003, he was in the old car in that year and was a contender for the championship all the way until the end. So I think, yeah, I think he did fulfill his potential in Formula One across his career. No. Let's get just mentioned. But I think the way we've ranked him is probably right. You know, he won races, he won, he made McLeod in a tidy contender. Again. And yeah, filled the whole very nicely that Mika left, I think. Indeed, well, coming is one of the, by the way, I should point out this is one of the two along with Mika. So it's a two fins that I actually agree with carelessly. I argue with everything else. Okay. Okay, well, I'm sure we're coming on to make hacking and very soon. But before we do, let's get to drive at number 7. Who is not hacking them? We shocked to discover. It's Emerson Fittipaldi. Joe McLaren between 1975 and 1970 one. Joey for McLaren in 1974 and 1975 started 28 races one 5 times and took the 1974 title Kevin's 50 pound eat at number 7. So he's there because, as you say, he was a he took the world after his first year at McLaren 74 and he was sort of a contender, if anyone was a contender against Niki Lauda Ferrari in 75, it was probably Emerson. Why isn't he higher? I think he basically inherited what was essentially the quickest car in F one that hadn't had a top line in it yet. Jodie Sheik was too raw Danny Holmes never the fastest F one driver and Peter revson wasn't the top notch girl. I think if McLaren had had a front run in 73, they would have been able to bake tear and lotus. They got a FrontRunner in Emerson and he duly delivered the duty to deliver the tartly wasn't the fastest driver that year Nicola and Ferrari should probably have won the championship. We weren't reliable enough. So he did a he did deliver, but I don't think he was quite so significant to McLaren as some of the drivers on this. I mean, it's significant in history, because it's the first one, so he gets bonus points for that. But yeah, and then he left, he made decision to leave in 75, which left them in a little bit of a hole as well. To go and find his brother's team. So yeah, just there for a couple of years, did get a championship, but I don't think as impressively as the other people on this list, but I'm looking forward to hearing what karun, what career he thinks of that one. Yeah, karoun, I'm guessing you'd have had Fittipaldi higher up the list. I had Fittipaldi ahead of I basically swapped the next two, so I had it in my head of who Kev's got a number 6 because I think there was. Connect if I'm wrong, but he was quite instrumental, wasn't he and making sure the Marlboro backing went to McLaren. And I think when I think back to my reasoning for putting a list together like this, it's going to be about impact for the team. And that Marlboro backing was essential for McLaren success for the next two and a half decades, probably. So I think a, that was fairly instrumental, be arrived, and one of the world's championship very quickly. And then finish second in the following year, you know, is only there for a couple of years and then finished first and second in the world championship. So that's yeah, so to me, I would have Emerson, one place higher up than where I kept going. Well, let's go on to that driver at number 6. It's James Hunt. Drove for McLaren between 1976 and 1978, started 49 races one 9 times and of course took the 1976 title. So Kev, we know where karoon would have had James Hunt. Why do you got them at number 6? Yeah, I mean, the thing that it is a very good point is kind of on the sponsorship side. In terms of the team side, I think hunt was just plain faster. I think he was the first driver to really show how quickly M 23 was. And yes, he was fortunate to win the world championship course because of what happened to Niki Lauda Ferrari louder and for I should have won that title as well. But I think he did incredible things with that with that car. I think in some ways he drive even better for McLaren the following year, but they didn't have the rubber green. They were a bit unlucky. Hunt Andretti and John Watson all should have won more races and being higher up in the championship in 77, but had various reliability problems. So I just think he made more of his time at McLaren than Emerson did. And if you also think that Fittipaldi joined as a world champion, there was a certain level of experience and expectation that he had, which hunt arcade one one Grand Prix, but I don't think anyone's yet convinced he was a well titled contender. So a little bit like the khaki Rosberg situation at Williams that 82 was kind of thrust into a situation, absolutely grabbed it with both hands. So I guess I put him ahead of Emerson on the basis so I think he's peaks at McLaren were higher, but it is hard to argue with the bringing into decades of sponsorship that Emma was key to. What's your thoughts on James Hunt in his place in F one history? If you'd have him on further spot down the list, now one of the extremely famous driver from the past because of it's even it's even gone as far as Hollywood with the excellent film rush. Yeah, but that's not what we're talking about here. And I think, you know, I think ultimately he won, of course he won the world championship and he was a very, very fast racing driver. There's no question about his speed. Would he have been one champion if loda had a crash at the Nurburgring? I think Kev's answer that question already..
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"emerson fittipaldi" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Than what I had dreamed about. And so, you know, yeah, it's brutally honest, and that sort of thing. And so, you know, but it was very, very good therapy for me. And as we were going through it, you know? There were several times in my interviews because we did it via Zoom most of the time with Jade and there's several times that you know I couldn't continue and or I needed a break because it was so emotional for me and I started breaking down and that sort of thing. And so it was very, very good therapy for me and you know I had been thinking about a book for a very long time. You know, I've seen other drivers come out with books and so on and they're so young. IE Dale junior I think he's got two or three of them out now and Jeff Gordon as two or three O 9. So you know I had never I had never done it because you know I felt that my story was not over. And honestly I still feel that way today that my story is still continuing and that sort of thing. And so you know Jade and I are going to have to come up with some ideas here in a couple years and Jade is going to be the co author of my next book no matter what, you know kind of thing and so COVID hit and I was sitting at home and I'm going, wow, you know, maybe now is a good time to investigate a book, you know and start that sort of thing. And so I enrolled in an online author class and I started to attack it myself as an author, a self published kind of thing. And quite honestly, I was doing pretty good job, you know? I thought anyway. And I got to the 89 Indy 500 and I was trying to put that on paper and I just couldn't I couldn't get it done because and because of everything that evolved around the 89,500 the finish with Emerson. And the thumbs up and all that. And I just, I found out right then I am not an author, okay? And so I called up Jade because of our past together with the beast and so on and John Andretti's book. And I said, Jay, and please help me on stock, you know, kind of thing. And he said he'd be glad to help me and so that's how it all came about of J and I getting together and actually the book coming to fruition. Jade, I mean, was it were there things that you unearthed in the process of working on the book that took you by surprise as well? Because by nature, you have to research these things pretty firmly before you get into a conversation, but was there anything that came out of it that surprised you? There were a few things, certainly I was very aware of Al's career and so there were many elements that I was very aware of or had been there to witness. But of all my books, I always approach them as a race fan. I still a huge race fan. So to hear him describe his thoughts and his emotions inside the helmet when he won his first Indy 500 or as he mentioned the dramatic finish with Emerson Fittipaldi, where Al ended up backwards and in the wall. And even the 1995 Indy 500 where the entire Penske team failed to qualify, I as a race fan, not as an author or not quote a professional writer or whatever. I love all that. It's just insight that I enjoyed as a fan. So I knew if I was fascinated by it, that the readers would be as well..
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"emerson fittipaldi" Discussed on Past Gas
"It. Would this be the end of Emerson Fittipaldi's racing career? No, not by a long shot. Though he went home to Brazil to help run the family citrus farms and auto accessory business, Emerson could never quit racing. In 1984, a 38 years old, he joined cart. It's a racing organization. We should definitely talk about it in a future episode because Indy car and cart split. They were competing promotions basically. It's a racing series very similar to indie. Yes, yes. And they drove indie style cars, basically. He spent his first season getting used to the cars, and then eventually joined Patrick racing as an injury replacement. He spent 5 years with the team and won 6 races and had solid finishes in the overall standings. By 1989 though, Emma had officially gotten used to IndyCar racing. He managed 5 wins, one of them at the Indy 500, and placed on the top 5 of every race he completed, and became the 1989 cart champion. In 1990, he was picked up by Roger Penske for his racing team, a team he continued to thrive on. MO maintained his reputation as a top driver for cart and won at least one race with Penske for 6 straight years. Pretty good. Despite his dominance in the sport, the name Emerson Fittipaldi is best known for a single controversy in the cart world. In 1993, Emerson won his second Indianapolis 500 out from under the nose of F one world champ, Nigel Mansell. As most of our listeners probably know, it's tradition for the winner of the Indy 500 to drink a bottle of milk in victory lane. But owned several orange groves in Brazil, and so he chose to drink, orange juice. Honestly, probably better. Better for hydrating more vitamin C it is crazy. Like you just did this insane race, taking an incredible amount of physical energy. Yeah. And then you have to go drink a big thing of milk. It's gross. And if you don't drink the milk, you don't get the trophy. That's the last obstacle. Yeah, they call it the final lap. Emerson was only the second driver to not drink milk at Indianapolis since the tradition was founded in 1936, and as you might expect, the fans were pissed. Oh my God, get over it. Even though MO chased his orange juice with milk, oh God. What? No. The fans are so outraged that he forfeited $5000 from his winner's purse and had to publicly apologize the American dairy association. God. This world, man. That's so weird. But the milk snub would not be forgotten. God. Emma was booed a week later in Milwaukee. Well, of course. That's true. I have no idea. Go back to Mexico. You can bake it up by chugging all these cheese curds. Cheese curds and eat this beer. Milwaukee was the center of the American dairy industry and hometown of our very own Joe Weber. And actually the woman who wrote this script, Christina. Joe, you made it into the pod, made it into the cast. Nice. Me and Emerson Fittipaldi side by side. Joe or James, can I get a Joe voice real quick? I'm from Milwaukee. Were you like cheese curds? Anyway, many fans held it against Emerson for years. Has had to publicly apologize and explain himself many, many more times, including when he returned to Indianapolis to drive for Chevrolet in the 2008 Indy 500, despite it being 15 years after the incident, he was still booed and heckled by the fans during the parade laps. They're just having fun at this point. Yeah, yeah, that's a good bit at this point. Anderson stayed in cart until 1996 when a broken neck at the Michigan International Speedway forced him to retire, Michigan, tough track. He finished his career with 22 cart wins, but couldn't stay away from the track for long. In 2003, he returned as a team owner for the Fittipaldi dingman racing team. Do you think digman was like, I want my name first. Dingman Fittipaldi. For the quality digman, just sounds better. Yeah, I agree, I guess. Try as he might, though, Emerson really couldn't stay away from the driver's seat. Just two years later, in 2005, Emerson made a surprise return to competitive racing in the Grand Prix masters event held in Kai lami in South Africa and finished second behind fellow F one driver Nigel Mansell. Then three years later in 2008, he and Wilson junior entered the Brazilian GT3 championship, driving a Porsche 9 9 7 GT3 for The WB motor sports team. It had an animaniacs livery on it. No, that's not real. That'd be sick, though. He also raced these semi trucks. What did he? Yeah. That's cool. Since then, Emerson became chairman of motor sport dot com in 2011. And in 2003, he started writing a monthly blog on McLaren's website. He also loves to throw his opinion into the mix and has recently gone on the record of his approval of F one's new sprint qualifying races. Probably one of the only people to do that. I kid, I kid. But this isn't an episode just about Emerson Fittipaldi. It's about his family's legacy. And with 7 kids, let's just say there's a lot of family to cover. Beginning with Emerson's brother, a man we've already lightly talked about, mister Wilson, Fittipaldi, junior. Wilson, Fittipaldi junior was born on Christmas in 1943, which means he might be a werewolf. It also born on Christmas. You might be a werewolf. According to what logic, well, lord. You know, lore. Ancient lore. It also makes him Emerson's big brother. Wilson junior was often referred to as Wilson Ho. Which means little Wilson. And we came a motor sport enthusiast as a child alongside his brother. Now we've already told you a little bit about Wilson, how he flipped the boat in his teens, built a successful series of cards with emmo and how he even ended up with his own, albeit unremarkable, F one team, but there's more to Wilson than his relationship with Emerson. Kind of, they're both werewolves. He chugs pineapple juice. Remember when Emerson struck out on his own and flew to Europe in 1969, only to win the F three championship that same year? Well, it was his big brother that set the example. 1966, Wilson flew to Europe to race for formula three. Unfortunately, it went a little differently for him. Due to conflicts with the team he drove for in Brazil, his opportunity to race fell through, so he flew home. Wilson didn't return to England until 1970 following his little brother's success in F two. That year he entered the British formula three with Jim Russell driving school driving a lotus 59 and got two a bark championship round at Silverstone..
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"emerson fittipaldi" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"You'll notice I'm not Ariana. In just a few hours she'll be flying off to Abu Dhabi with the rest of the F one paddock. So instead, I'm temporarily taking the reins, and I'm joined by Luke Smith, F one reporter for auto sport and Hayden Cobb editor of autosport dot com. But before we all try and make sense of exactly how that Grand Prix played out, for those listeners who tune into the podcast for the results, and we know there are a few of you. Here's the short version. In a bizarre race that required two restarts and four virtual safety cars, Lewis Hamilton beat Max Verstappen to victory to set up a final round showdown as they head to Abu Dhabi level on points. That's the first time that's happened since 1974 with McLaren's Emerson Fittipaldi, battling Ferraris clay regazzoni for the championship. Bottas took third from ocon in a dash to the line on the final lap, finishing just a few meters ahead. Behind them, Ricardo managed to climb up to 5th, followed by gasly, leclerc, saints, jovina, and a disappointed Lando Norris rise up the points in tenth. Max Verstappen picked up a 5 second time penalty for passing off the track, and after the race was issued a ten second time penalty for sudden breaking and causing a collision for the break check incident with Lewis Hamilton. But that penalty didn't end up affecting the results as Bottas was 16 seconds behind max. There were two red flags, two standing restarts, three different pole sitters, four virtual safety cars, and at least two clashes between the title rivals in a race which is easily the most frantic of the year. And with that said, and I'm pretty surprised that we managed to get such a succinct summary considering the action, I wanted to kick off the podcast as we usually do guys by asking you for your ratings for the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix. I'm really interested to know what you guys are going to say. I think there's such a mixed feeling towards this race for various reasons, but Luke, why don't we start off with you? What was your rating for the race? Yeah, very mixed feelings, actually, because we've had this amazing fight between Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen. Don't get me wrong, it was incredible to see the instance and everything that happened. And there was so much drama throughout the race, but in terms of actual strategy or intrigue or on track action, it wasn't actually like overtaking or anything like that and a raw fight between the two title rivals. Yeah, maybe it maybe didn't hit some of the heights that we've seen earlier in the season. So there's a bit of a funny one. I thought it was a bit of a messy race with all of the VSC's and debris and everything like that going on. And yeah, it was kind of we kept having these continual battles where we had Lewis will get close to max, max would then be aggressive, Louis would have to back out, we keep repeating that basically. So yeah, I would probably give it a 7 or an 8, I would say. I probably I think, yeah, it's not the kind of race. It's a race on me don't remember and we will remember this so so much. It's so exciting for the championship. But in terms of an out and out race, I think if you take away that lead battle throughout the rest of the field, actually it was quite tame in places. So yeah, I would go with the name. It was a very memorable race and a good race and many places, but it wasn't a ten out of ten or anything like that. For me, can I have two ratings, please? I'll explain why. First one is the entertainment side of it in terms of what makes an entertaining race and I think you've got to go ten out of ten for that because like you say there is so much going on. I'm so impressed the way you summed it up in about three minutes because just trying to cover it in the written form, it's like pages upon pages of everything. So it just had a little bit everything that you almost forget little instances to happen here or there, which for the spectator taking out the sporting purist take on it. It just was incredible and difficult to kick up with. But as Luke said, I think yeah, from perhaps more to what was pure sporting racing situation, take a few marks down from there. I'd agree on the 7, because yes, the back of the front was great, but maybe we didn't see a great deal else going on, but that probably because of the Java suit carnage that was actually unfolding everywhere you looked. Yeah, it was definitely, I think a controversial, I don't even want to because obviously it's been questioned as to whether we are even going to call it a race. And I guess in the fallout in the quotes that have come out post race, max and Red Bull have very much vocalized the fact that they don't believe this is Formula One, that this was an example of penalties and politics, getting in the way of quote unquote racing. Which I'm sure we're going to get on to when we get around to the penalties. But I thought I have to agree with you guys in terms of, I mean, my heart rate, I don't think dipped below one 60 BPM for that entire length of time of the race. Maybe see your doctor about that. I mean, genuinely, I felt like I'd been treat this trait this is therapy. This is a safe space for you. It's time to talk over the troubles that we've just witnessed and go from there. I mean, it's been great. I feel like I don't have to go for a run, because I basically did, however, long we had of some hard cardio based on the fact that it just never seemed to want to calm down. It just had every time you thought it couldn't twist anymore. It twisted again. And the momentum just seemed to swing between Lewis and max throughout. But in order for us to really process and analyze and give the listeners a bit of a viewpoint on exactly what happened out in Saudi Arabia today, I thought we would try and attack this by going through it in chronological order. Just the major points otherwise we will probably be doing a 5 hour podcast, but why don't we begin? Because I guess to your point Luke, the race started off quite simply, given the start for formula two, we'd seen that it can get quite chaotic and there was also throughout the weekend the worries about the safety of the track and formula two with the crash that we saw in formula two as well. Not necessarily to do with the circuit itself, but obviously was quite a harsh start of race procedures today. What did you make of the start of the Grand Prix? And what did you believe was going to be playing out? Did you think it was going to be that boring the whole way through? Or did you know that chaos was most likely coming? It was a quite a serene start and it tallies with a lot of Italy's with what a lot of drivers said that it would be one of two races that would either be chaos and crazy and lots going on or it would be very tame and not a lot happens. And I think back to Baku when it had its first race, the F two race was absolutely crazy. All of the F one guy saw it and thought, okay, if I take it easy and just get to the finish, that will probably be enough..
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"emerson fittipaldi" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Really thought that was a little bit like in the Rodriguez list we did, up at the following years months a thousand kilometers long because he single handedly beat a three car for our team. It was quite a specifics equivalent, I think. And do you feel like you obviously mentioned there? Do you feel like the Ferrari just literally crumbled under if it's pressure? That was the telling factor in the race. Were they to be fair, they didn't have as many. They didn't have as many cars at most of the races, and they didn't have as many. They weren't out as many races. So they probably were always going to have a bit of a few teething problems, but I mean, they had tire trouble, which you could probably manage. If you weren't having to drive flat out, they also had oil pressure, problems. I mean, that might just have been one of those things that was always going to happen. So it's a bit difficult to say with cools there problems, but I think, you know, you're always more likely to find the problems if you're driving flat out on you. So and I just don't think they would have had to invest of course the Ferrari would have fought each other. I would suspect that Mario Andretti would have been sensible enough not to get drawn into something like that if it was just him in Petro at the front. So yeah, I think you'd have to say, see if it was a contributing factor to their Ferraris failure. We move on to formula two for the next race, which is number 8. And this one, I genuinely would have loved to have seen this right. A 1970 room GP F two race where the 8 cars, the top 8 were several by 2.4 seconds at the finish. I must have been epic, which I agree with you. That would definitely be a race to go back to and watch wouldn't it? Yeah. He didn't have many successes in F two. But that one was, yeah, so the 8 cars that flashed across the line, the 7 behind him were clay record zone, Emerson Fittipaldi, Jacky ickx, who was his teammate for that weekend. Tim shank and Ronnie Pete and Derek bell and Jack Brabham. Well, I mean, they're all names, right? And they're all within 2.4 seconds and he was at the front. And yeah, so it was one of these things where there were two heats. And then a final and he put himself on the front row after it after his heat. But reggaeton is techno actually won the faster heat. And so he was on pole. And there was a great coat actually from Justine howler who did the all sport report. He said, with the sole exception of Jackie Stewart, who wasn't there, rarely have 18, such potent car driver combinations have been seen at any form of racing. And there were I added up the numbers. The drivers in that of those 18, they would go on to rack up 72 world championship F one wins and 6 world titles. And that doesn't include people like Graham hill, who didn't make the final. So I mean, in terms of quality entry, it doesn't get much better than that. And yeah, he had him and Ronnie Peter who would go on to become the king of F two really. They were always at the front of the pack and Ronnie grabbed the lead and went on to last up in the lead. But then there's the hairpin where a lot of the moves were happening, and he just went in too deep. It was obviously one of those I've got to stay ahead and he just went in too hot. See if it got through into the lead and then held off reg it's only by .1 of a second on the line with Fittipaldi a massive extra .1 of the second further back. So I guess the only reason it's perhaps not higher on this list is think the streamline BMW is probably a good car to have round rule. Obviously, it did ra and Ronnie making the mistake with those slipstreaming battles. It can be a little bit down to lock as to where you are, though. It's funny how the same people tend to be at the front normally, but yeah, I just thought it was a sensational race. As you saw, I would love to have gone back and seen. Absolutely. I mean, I'm sort of hard to think of another occasion where you'd have that many names so close. Like, it's just mad. Yeah, it's brilliant, isn't it? There have been some Kevin wood who's the unsung star of the multiple images and they send the photos over. He unfortunately wasn't able to find a photo of the actual finish, but he did find some fantastic pictures of them at the hairpin and coming down down towards the heparin. It's just a massive cars. And of course, all different chases as well, different chases, different different engines, different drivers. And also, I mean, how often would there have been a Swiss drivers one, too? In an international motor race. Just a race that I wasn't really aware of when I started doing the research, but the more I looked into it, thought this has got to be on the list somewhere. Absolutely. Well, another research, there because that is a phenomenal entry. Number 7, 1969 Dutch Grand Prix zandvoort. Now, this is a classic case of a charge in drive from Joe. Yeah, it's qualified ten system of the car just never really worked particularly well in practice, but then in the race, obviously they got it. They got it nailed. Yeah, so he started tenth. It was not at the end of the first lap. He was 7th lap later. And then he caught Chris Amon's Ferrari the McLaren's of Denny hammer Bruce McLaren. And he went past all three of them very, very rapidly. The other sport report said he outmaneuvered home in a heart stopping moment. So again, that's probably would have been something nice. Didn't find footage of that, but I'm sure that would have been good to watch. And he was that pretty much a fourth. Very close to Graham hill in the works lotus because of seeds in the rob walker car. And he found a way past here as well. So he got from tenth to third. And the two guys ahead of him were, I think, probably at that time the two best drivers in the world who had Jackie Stewart and jochen, rinse worked lotus filed him as he did a lot in 1969. And Stuart was left to win with sifford second. So, you know, head of basically all the factory cars except just accept Stewart's actually put him up to third in the drivers table at that point as well. So yeah, one of the best underdog sort of combined the underdog with charging through the field. So I thought that had to deserve to place as well. Exactly. I completely agree. Well worthy of the place in the top ten. And we'll move to swiftly on to number 6, which is in a race. I'll be honest. I know there are come across in my time, but I had to go and check the pronunciation just to make sure that I got it right. But the Syracuse Grand Prix. Now, tell us a bit about this because he didn't actually finish this rice, but it's made it to number 6. Yes, and it's in the same Brabham BRM that he driven in other non sanctioned races, including the Mediterranean Grand Prix where we were talking about earlier. The reason this is higher, one is much more of a driver circuit. It's not just a flat out blast. It was a really challenging circuit where Tony Brooks famously won to the first British car driver win in a Grand Prix a non chatty comprising before the Second World War so it was a proper track 3.4.
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"emerson fittipaldi" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Positive force for the team for the mechanics. Also someone just gelled with with father. It was more than a working relationship. Ernie was a special friendship In the top twenty five was utterly dominant. But but jimmy's teammates Able Didn't win a rice grown pre Jimmy was was a vital element echo. Nice bite spicer. Dr zan construct his championship. It was a drop scores row really needed. The one car so provided in the gym was delivering and getting those winds which he did in nineteen sixty. Three and sixty five. You would win both championships. you've probably would need a slightly different approach now. Our guest but certainly very successful. I'm interested obviously loads. Went onto win the champ shit. Obviously crime here. We're not sixty eight. Your can ruin emerson. Fittipaldi mario andretti. Who d- think any of those are. The drivers got close to being being having that relationship with calling on how you can win in in sort of didn't see our to all and everything was quite combative sort of relationship if successful. But do you think any other jobs. Props got into the call. 'cause i it were. Both dance tells a nice story. Watkins glen nineteen sixty eight. When mario was in the forty nine for the first time will set fast time at watkins. Glen and Mayor said to call in heard him say colin. Just tell me when you want me to put her on pole. He promptly did that and After father set to bulb Jimmy back again. Babies euphoric when he said it. Of course in coastal academic but I think. I think mary was a significant figure. Particularly when it came to ground effects because that was that was quite a technical imperial Wasn't quite straightforward as slapping onslaught posts in going out to win not really didn't need kudlow development unsophisticated development rich. Mary platinum an important palton. Dodson had a had a really Strong relationship as well as having two.
F1: Beyond The Grid
"emerson fittipaldi" Discussed on F1: Beyond The Grid
"It's crazy to think all of the different things that went on that season for you. Can we start at the beginning of the season. Let's go through that year chronologically because the car was brilliantly fast leon wasn't it and nikki went into the nurburgring the german grand prix with a twenty three point lead in the championship. You must have thought that point before the race that it was all looking very easy. Well it's never easy and that you know until the last and the last finnish but nevertheless three one two was really fantastic. Niki was eating great. Great and you have to remember that the points for the winner where nine not defined today so three boys are like it. Almost three weeks so was a season and the the problem. A gain wasn't ahead of niki. Why because nikolay is such a stronger. I talk about in prison in. The past is such a strong personality. That twenty one to something and essentially said is very difficult if not impossible to make changes mind and miki ouston jeremiah. Speaking were so against the that was to dangerous. Who longer difficult to have the first thing that really want to ban the newborn robbery and it may sachin ms. I have to say with journalists because of course the gentleman journalists way favor of not voting and the driver's not very sure they will race in your nikki spent the last week before noting to arrange meetings with different reiver's with emerson fittipaldi. That was the president of the gpa. Except the end today. Niki convinced drivers whoever emitting and to vote in favor or against pricing in understand how emotional worse folder niki. This week before grandma niki. Forget you are leaving ghost law. Don't take risks if you was just. Don't make these mass. Because you know we have everybody against the organizer. Ben heck system. They already have. The culture with television is too dangerous venture. I don't fucking care miki's peaking and he had this meeting both aloft for one boat. The vote to nice in blueberry and mickey was very furious. These are pointed out we have to raise so he was in a bad place. Mentally going into that race distress was was really. Indicating is my not concentrated on the race. He was concentrating on banning race in neighbouring you know in historic racing germany. And we were already. There was what was physically. But you don't need to inst- need and if they could i nevertheless he was second because at this time you start. I draw one one on the same level. You're not not eight meters behind. So james losing both nicky segments. Okay back to start to rain and neutering terrain explain novel but was not good for niki..
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"emerson fittipaldi" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"That needs to be strengthened so by the time the team colleges the number one driver in this stage. Wilson is the number two driver. I think the first grown at the team wrapped up four with that being the spanish girl. Bree in moseley park in barcelona so the two of bt forty. Two's and cutlass roy. Leading the team and actually on that. Let's spanish growing pray. He came very close to winning. It It was a quite a rice attrition. As you often had on that circuit and with less than ten laps to go he was closing on emerson fittipaldi had a puncture and the drive shaft filed on the problem. And so that was the first win. That went begging but But a few weeks after that obviously recovered from your brands hatch accident. You actually made your well championship at one debut. Didn't you it by the british crate alongside colin wilson. So what was what was kind of let with well the my debut was in what was the the bt thirty seven which was a derivative of the bbc thirty four which carlson position in argentina. And seventy two. The car was leased to pull michael's hexagon of high get pull run. A motor business in highgate. S- i had been engaged in motoracing over a number of seasons randy and formula three formula. Five thousand at the same time. The car was designated hexagon to prepare an run on a random they international ration- colors of high gets have loved for chapel three broad brown race causing my knowledge. But this one was abroad brabham bt. He said but we were a separate entity from the factory. Brabham team so at that stage I didn't really have any input or contact with carlos shorewood since it's a penalty a separate factory operation than sort of stand alone private entry as you were allowed in those days and we just read about our business and and thankfully started to the back of the grid helped helped me day incident in your lap when scheckter lost in front of the entire field has as that season run and carlos became more and more competitive caddies fest. Well championship podium finish. Watkins glen finishing seventh in the championship. And then instead seventy four. When gordon murray design the brabourne bt forty four. I'm gonna go back to tiny now. Because doc fast growing knowledge insane was really. Call us to win. Wasn't it and then it all went wrong in the closing abs- yes talking a winning formula. We'll just go back a few months to one or two weeks after that Pulled sitting argentinian of nineteen seventy-two. They organized a a non championship event in brazil. I'm not sure if it was a real genego all the luggage. Carlos cuddles gained drove the bt study full and that is what you could call his first formula one victory although it was pointless. Well i think he made a point there by by winning into quite a quite a good field fast forward a year later and two years later to nineteen seventy four and Well yes that was a major. I think he didn't tell me about it. But i read about it that he could see the the actual cup of that nineteen seventy four. John pre the night. You could see it in his dreams he he couldn't quite make out. How how the car had you know. Run out of fuel. Many people sated assault. That the fact that it's epochs early engine it got loose the race and some people started sinking that That lead to a larger fuel consumption but it had nothing to do badly. They hadn't quite filthy fuel tank to rim prior to the start. And that's what you know ended up Meaning that he. When i was in the in the again in the india grandsons idea and it was suddenly such a big science. That the only thing you could hear with the recent goes on the track. We couldn't make it up. We couldn't understand it. We couldn't believe it. It was absolutely terrible. And i know why in what he must have gone through the deception. Not quite believing. He was sort of walking that grand prix at his want. I mean you know. He had the chicken flag practically in site. Fast growing pray wind. Cain fairly soon after that in in south africa carlos and john. That was a year where you're running at the site chassis. Bredon basie full floor in in the national rising of highgate of brown and cost royston was without question. The the number one driver Around middle of the season cottle's poujade joined the team to drive. The other car would The roitman not year in australian at watkins glen. But but john what what. Sort of a challenge to Post to royston because he was not a very quick drivers from south america. Wasn't he if you're first of all in nineteen seventy four up until the german girl period no by green. We were running a bc forty two. Which is the car from. The seventy three season was only at never been there and to land year. That i had the bbc forty four similar car. Carlos had except we had five stone ties in college was on duty otas but in relation to colors. pot Colors had been driving for john. Surtees but i think he'd become a little bit unhappy with housing progressing there. I don't know what took place to label callister to move to problem. I do recall at the other. The french prio european grocery a show in seventy four hickson were provided with another brand Four hexagons run cuddles puncher. I didn't carlos particularly good events at digital but he was always there a driver very creek driver. He's also very charismatic. Person and I think in that introduction of condos probab- first of all brought to top line drivers to To their factory team but it also role to counter during a personality in the manner which religion was a much more self-effacing a much quieter personality. So punch was a a person who enjoy life and every every aspect of living in just getting onto life's for living on rosamund would be say much more of a a quiet person. Not somebody who had wanted to go is at nights and have fun go to cloud. Whatever there's a difference in the two personalities but in terms of ability there is not a huge autumn ability except colors.
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"Homepage. We list are gassed and boy. Have we had some great ones. Tim brown the future hall of famer. James worthy in the hall of fame in the nba thurman nba hall of famer. Ken burns the documentarian. Who did that. Wonderful new documentary on jack johnson. Espn's chris berman jack youngblood. Nfl hall of famer a pair of nba hall of famers in nate archibald clyde drexler. Also if you're into auto racing than you know these names. Bobby ray haw and emerson fittipaldi and that list goes on on and on so all you have to do is go to the website. Sports byline dot com and.
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"emerson fittipaldi" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"Going on non stops helping head Portland, Maine. There's a flight to Charleston. Those are are just united Allegiant, adding nonstop to Los Angeles in Boston and Sun Country. Sun country. There was some country flights to Minneapolis. More opportunities. We have people to connect here, The better it is for convention business, the better it is for for trade shows. Bigger that airport grows. That is a huge one. That's that should be one of the most. Nonpartisan conversations. Bipartisan nonpartisan, which which, what? Everyone should be in on this. There you go much better. This is good news and congratulations. Absolutely thrilled by it now, which is the airline that wants to take me to Vegas Coming going to Vegas? I'm going. There has been a question about if I did a trip to Vegas. If I did a steak and cigars tour of Vegas would would people come? About lot of those questions. It's good being in Look, mayor is going to come and go. Jun's gonna be an interesting month and then it's gonna be a lot to share. I can't wait to do that. Then I caught this story over it. Wish TV. The grandson. Oven Indianapolis 500 winner who angered fans nearly 30 years ago. Will be honored by a dairy farmers today. So this is this is about Fittipaldi. He will be awarded with the 47th annual fastest Rookie of the Year award. He had an average lapse being of 2 30.846 during qualifying. Of course, there's Emerson Fittipaldi. Who in 1993 gets the victory Lane. And what does he do? Well, something even I know. Is pure on heresy. He drinks orange juice. Oh, God. Yes. No, God, please. No, he did. He did. What? Yeah. So, uh, I didn't realize that was AH, Scandal the time. I didn't realize that was such a big deal. Right? He eventually took a swig of milk, but he wanted he wanted O J. Okay. That's Z. That's him that that's his story. Now the list is out. Who is doing your golf game this year. Just go. No one wants to hear about your golf game. The list is out of who wants What And Ed Carpenter. He's calling for buttermilk. Honestly might still be Babe Ruth point, you know, calling his shot. That's what he's doing. Oh, So did somebody this of Astro all we got a couple of butter milks on there. And one Pablo Montoya called for chocolate milk in So that's a good man right there. That would have been no one called for Almond. Huh?.