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"ely anderson" Discussed on The Classicist

The Classicist

04:33 min | 9 months ago

"ely anderson" Discussed on The Classicist

"Hanson, the Martin and Ely Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution. And Victor. This is the first time that you and I have had a chance to get back together. Since the outbreak of in some cases, protests in some cases near riots in reaction to the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis. And one of the things is interesting about this. If you just woke up from a coma and we're trying to take this all in. You'd probably think that this was a rerun of a situation like Ferguson. Where the public was polarized, and there was a real disagreement about the underlying facts of this case. In this instance, it's almost impossible to find anyone who is loudly defending the behavior of the police officer. In this case, he was brought up on charges almost immediately. The authorities administrative since up those charges. So what do you make the fact that? Despite there being such quick attempts to find a remedy here and such sweeping support for it, we have nevertheless seen a reaction like this one in our major cities. I think they have to be seeing in the larger context that the initial protests as you say was shared by everybody because. The knee and the eight minutes it was beyond the moral and ethical Pale, but it morphed into a different agenda within forty eight hours, and it was violent, and there was arson and looting, and then suddenly it was was like Nah, eight, seventeen, ninety to seventeen, ninety, four, the committee on public set safety. It was just the reign of terror. The agendas ended up with NPR. You know advising us to get rid of our white authors on our bookshelves to. Defend the please two girls cutting their hair off because they weren't. There were shamed of their so called Whiteness. That was crazy and and it happened very quickly in. Why was that much more quickly than occupy Wall Street or even metoo? That kind of late stage hysteria. and. I think the answer was. It's an election year. A B. Donald trump is a very controversial figure see. They had tried to derail his re-election efforts through Mueller twenty-fifth amendment. We've talked about this impeachment. The Colbert lockdown became pull. This is oh very quickly..

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"ely anderson" Discussed on The Classicist

The Classicist

12:48 min | 11 months ago

"ely anderson" Discussed on The Classicist

"The Morton and Ely Anderson Senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. Ed Victor. Let's start today with the the conversation that you and I were having a few weeks ago about California and have the spread of covert nineteen. There has not played out exactly according to expectations or at least some of the projections and the theme. That you've been sounding about this virus. Pretty much from the start has been about intellectual humility about being cognizant of what we know and what we don't know but in the aftermath of our conversation some of the writing that you've been doing on this topic especially as regards California. You were accused including by some media outlets of doing precisely the opposite. Walk us through what happened here. Well I wrote an article in in a row and I thought it was pretty balanced. I didn't make any claims whatsoever that I knew what I just said. California has about half of the deaths per million Germany which is held up as a model and it has twice the population of New York. And it's got about ten the number of cases in about twelve number deaths and so why is that true and I mentioned Texas was doing well and I said here's all the different reasons that people have reduced the weather. It's warmer or the data's batter the data's late or Gavin newsom went on March nineteenth with a toll shutdown. Or It's coming. Just wait or the virus was here more earlier than perhaps patient zero. I think that was in January twentieth in Washington. Then I went back and I said this shouldn't have been happening because we had five to seven thousand Chinese most in the country arriving all of November December January and into February via of connecting flights in Europe and that was an agreement over million people. Three thousand a day. The mayor of New York Los Angeles had brag. So then I said well you know. We're no hotter than the South. And the data. No state has been accused of having bad data. Really and newsome was only three days earlier in the lockdown than most states that followed him within three days like New York. So maybe it is that we had some immunity and that would mean that the virus either swept through California in early January or even in the late part of two thousand nineteen and then I said that Stanford researchers all were investigating that in the sense that they were planning antibody test in samples. I think a thousand or fifteen hundred. And that's what I said I said but we have to be a little bit humble and this is a mystery you next thing. I knew a station in. Monterey is implied that I was a doctor running test and then the next thing I knew local media got a hold of it and then the next thing I knew it was all over. Left-wing media that I was kind of a denial list and the next thing. I knew a woman in slate Jan Jane who said that was a racist for suggesting that it was caused by Chinese visitation. The next thing I knew a some people wrote to the hoover they wrote to Stanford even wrote to the Alumni Association and and they tried to silence me and they got Mary angry. And then I had to write a clarification and I wrote another one and it didn't stop and I wrote another one and I guess what I'm saying is that there was a lot of confusion I use maybe improperly the word herd immunity but what I what I meant was that whatever the number is of previously infected or whenever they were infected. It's going to change our whole perception of the virus because if it's analogous to fifteen percent as the German study showed about a typical community or the Park Roseland Hospital in Chicago. They did random antibody or the two hundred pregnant women who came in and tested positive. Fifteen percent then a state California. You can see that you're getting up to six million people and that could explain The slowdown but even if you took a worst case scenario like Finland one or two percent and you said well Sh- only one or two percent or maybe three percent of California that's a vast number that would be four hundred eight hundred one point six million now. Why is that important? Because we're using for the first time in my memory in an epidemic. A an exact number. Is that a nominators. The case number which we know is false. We know that didn't people who feel sick or feel expose go in and get tested and those who are the minority that tests positive than that represents an all these crazy internet meters and all these modeling. That's the number. Who have the virus and then you divide it into the number of dead and you get this three and a half percent. Four percent. Death rate per hundred to report desperate. Everybody goes ballistic. But even if it's only one or two or three and you start dividing in a state like California four hundred eight hundred one point six Mil One point two million in two eight or nine hundred dead. Then you can see what happens. It starts to resemble if not be less lethal than the flu and if it's less lethal than the flu. Then when Gavin newsom said on March nineteenth at his model show twenty five million would be infected and given the lethality rate that day. I think it was three percent that could be over a million dead unless you listen to Gavin newsom and shut the state down. Well I realized that by just suggesting that without being a participant not and having no medical credentials than was written off and I wrote a book with the title case of trump as a partisan that was trying to work the debate so that we will get back to work. And it's it's I guess characteristic of this climate that we're in the age of the Internet social media trump's running for president. It's an election year. There's Chinese mysteries put them all together and perfect storm fashion and every single thing personal rights is now a weapon is whether you know. Think about a permit troy. I mean make a statement about hydroxide chloroquine. That's now a political statement. If you think it has some efficacy than you're a pro trump supporter mentioned the word flew and context the krona. Then you're a trump supporter mentioned that you think it's highly irregular that the lab was so close to the patient zero in. Wuhan and it was probably connected with SARS epidemic. Not that you ever believe. I don't believe that at all that there was a manufactured virus but I think there's a lot of news accounts coming out in the last forty eight hours that it might have escaped and then your trump supporter and that's too bad because what happens. This internet pack goes after you and they never go after you buy. As I wrote to one person who keeps writing to other people at Stanford. He wrote another group letter to administrators at Stanford today in anger but my point is that they never just confront you. They always go to your editor or they go to your boss so they go to your place of employment. Say how dare you. How could you sh- and I try never to do that. I mean I when the woman wrote something about the writer at slate. I thought was smearing and really contemptuous saying that. I was a racist for suggesting that visitation was responsible for the outbreak which it was. I mean I didn't accuse her being racist because she denied the obvious and she was of Chinese apparent ancestry. But my point is I would never go to slate and say. How can you print this person? But that's how the left seems to operate and they got to be very careful. WanNa pick up on something that you reference there a moment ago so there have been an awful lot of pronouncements over the past few months made with imperious certainty. That have subsequently proven. Not to be true whether it's public officials telling people to go about their lives as normal the total about face on face masks etc but it now looks as though we might be on. The cusp of the biggest one yet is as you mentioned so. This is not confirmed yet but there are now reports from outlets as disparate as the Washington Post and Fox News to suggest that the origin of covert nineteen may have been in that Chinese laboratory not as a bio weapon but because of lax safety protocols in steadying the viruses there and when the first utterances of something like that hit the air awhile back it was a big pile on about being conspiracy theory so this may be false but it has clearly past the point of being implausible. If this turns out to be the case the only analogy I can think of is that this is communist China's Chernobyl but obviously a much bigger scale. What would be the appropriate appropriate reckoning for China? Very Good Question. You're right people worst. Tom Cotton was smeared. But if you read that article in the diplomat yesterday that I and I called one of the sources for WHO's a Chinese native speaker and works for the US government and he confirmed it that it was accurate he fell and what the story said was. Maybe they were experimenting. And they were way over their head as far as the lethality of these corona viruses versus their ability to control him in one got out and then they dallied in lied because of this trade war. They were in with us and they didn't want to lose market share and they thought they can control it and then it just they couldn't control it may couldn't control. Finally even the World Health Organization will be tried in that somebody just threw up their hands and said you know what if we're going to go down don't tell the? Us Don't tell your shutdown on make sure no flights go out of China Indo Shanghai. Ap King let them go into the US. That's kind of where we are at now if that happens to be true that's kind of an act of war and yet. China's a one point four billion person second largest economy nuclear power. So what do we do? And it's easy to say we disconnect. We all want to do that. But the problem is that when you look at the stem disciplines in science and math and engineering and technology or higher education has been dependent on foreign students and foreign residents. And we don't have the muscle brain muscle power. The experience are enough people to remain competitive yet so I think what we need to do is right now. Wing Pharmaceuticals Medical Supplies Rare Earth. Metals military applied technology back. And then we've got to get into sort of a sputnik reaction where we really try to recalibrate these universities. And why in the world will rehab a diversity. Inclusions are when we don't have a science and math czar and so that's what we need to do and as far as China We're going to have to. I think we're GONNA have to bulk up our alliances with Taiwan which was a model in this crisis. Japan South Korea Australia and and looked at form. Something like the old see Saito. That wasn't very successful. But maybe something like an Asian Nato. We're going to have to really push after the North Korea that missile defense especially along the West Coast and at sea. And I think we're going to have to realize that this is not the first time it happened and it's not going to be the last time it happens. And they've discovered they've hit on maybe accidentally but they've hit on something that's far more Lethal than a nuclear bomb. It's sort of a neutron bomb. We all remember from the nineteen eighties. It can destroy the United States economy without harming its infrastructure in your most recent syndicated column. Do you are you? That were coming near an inflection. Point with Cove Nineteen th the status quo. Such as it is right now. Can't hold this complicated set of decisions that have to be made? Take me through what you think. The decision points there should be and how the president and the various governors and mayors should be thinking about the well the presence at he's at the at the cars he's going to have to make a lose lose decision and that means if he dallies beyond..

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"ely anderson" Discussed on The Classicist

The Classicist

12:34 min | 1 year ago

"ely anderson" Discussed on The Classicist

"In Ely Anderson a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and Victor. This is the first show that you and I have been able to do since the events between the US and Iran and rather than just picking up from where we are today I'd like to start by having you break down the component parts of what got us here at let me start with the event that immediately preceded the strike that killed so the money this was the attack and if you call it botched but it was mostly warded off off that was attempted on the American embassy in Baghdad with the Iranians largely driving. So what do you take as the Iranian calculation there. They've been provocative for a while now with us with the Saudis. What's your read on why they were willing to go in on an attack on American interests like this knowing the the kind of response it might engender well two two observations an answer one? I'm not sure they. They knew exactly what trump was going to do. Because remember they had shot down a multi-million dollar drone and we didn't do anything and trumpet had displayed magnaminity and they took that as weakness and Rather than gratitude to be reciprocated and then the second pre a precursor to this is they are MINUS TWELVE GDP and it's not a static situation so in their view. They have to do something and they have a range of options they can and they can do a big something in tax here in the US with terrorist. I suppose or in Europe or they can do this tit for tat in Middle East Against Middle East bases but are they can Hasten their enrichment program or they can go back to the table and they decided added that all of those are are not possible. So they're they've chosen the safest and that is to kind of get us into a tit for tat Afghan on war of no fly zone in the to the nineties type of harassing eating cycle. And so when they did this I don't think they thought trump was is really serious and they have reason to believe that he wouldn't be because Obama had the red lines and then he had been forgiving about the drone attack and then when he did that I think they were shocked. Because Sulamainiya thought he was sacrosanct. And now they. They're looking at all of the alternatives and trump to be. Frank has all the cards because he can do nothing and each day their economy worsens and now Europeans are talking about joining with the sanctions. And so I expect they're going to have to do use something and from what we know that regime it won't be It won't be honest. It'll be disingenuous. It'll be Subversive they will try to do something to break the stranglehold on their economy. Let's talk about the actual strike. That killed Sulejmani. I confessed fest that you were the first person that I thought of when I heard the news because just a few weeks prior you and I had a conversation on this podcast. One predicted that Iran John was going to lash out at the anti-bid and to that president trump would react with disproportionate force. This the classic Jacksonian formulation formulation. I'll leave you alone but the second you start trying to play in my yard I'm GonNa Bring the hammer down and victor there was. I think it's fair to say some breathlessness about this decision especially in the way it was covered by the press. People saying the president's going to get us into world war three he's going to destabilize the region you heard the news that so many had been and killed and your first reaction was what why wrote an article. I think almost immediately saying that we had all the cards to place I said and that Tom Wants that. We had done that. The world now would look at Iran's see what they were going to do because of their Braggadocio and the Hezbollah and death to America and I said trump obviously has a list of targets that he can attack and take out without loss to ourselves and he can sit back and just go down the list and each one more billion dollar caller targets and they will do some iconic we spots but not any any that involve material damage. Diseases go down. His is target list and they know that and they're frustrated. They lost face among their supporters Moderate Iranians are happy over the assassination targeted. Killing feeling. Arabs are happy Israelis are happy. Europeans are happy. The only people who seem to be upset or the the left in the United States and the left in Europe perhaps because since since the Obama administration as you remember the Green Revolution Two thousand nine whenever there's a popular era uprising against the regime. They worry because they have this very distorted view of a revolutionary regime. That they can do business us with. They can have a landmark agreement with and it never quite works with them end so Obama did not want to support mass uprising because he thought the regime would survive and then they would not cut in Iran. Deal with him in the left I guess is still delusional thinks if that regime survives and they can go back and do around deal two point zero so the reprisal from the Iranians after this Sulejmani killing is them firing from Romanian territory missiles at American installations in Iraq. There are no casualties and in fact a lot of observers interpreted this is more of a face-saving exercise than anything you say and the president comes out the next day and says the Iranians are standing down the ideas. We've kind of recent equilibrium here. How steady do you take that equilibrium to be this Iran really taking a substantive step it backwards this Iran biding its time? I think they're gonNA. They'RE GONNA buy their time three weeks four weeks to two or three months till the smoke clears and then they're going to say. Was this a one off thing. And they're going to do something like that Some something like they have done in the past. They'll kill an American or art thou tackle base. We don't really know whether these these huge rockets that hit the base. Were deliberately aimed. Are they had that capability Not to he hit Americans but they came pretty close and they did a lot of damage and trump could have responded but it it gave him a weird opportunity to show magnaminity and he can say well. No Americans were killed. I'm giving them one more chance. Now the ball is in their court and after that tragedy of the Ukrainian airliner and their lies about it and the disruption that followed They're going to have to make a decision but we should keep in mind again. It's not static. The the domestic situation is volatile and they're going They're getting poor and going broke quicker every day and they're going to have to do something and we're GonNa have to be ready for that something. Same Hab applies to North Korea to end and not an existential sense but to China's well because all three of those regimes see the status quo is not sustainable from their point review. What's the missiles started getting changed Aron announced that it was withdrawing from the nuclear deal now of course the trump administration hit exited awhile ago but Iran was still officially participant along with some of the allies who joined onto that agreement when it was originated during the Obama Administration. Question which I put you without being Flynn does it matter. Does it make a real world difference that Iran has officially disclaimed this agreement. Especially when the argument you've made before the disagreement was never going to accomplish much of our long-term goals anyway it only does because the Europeans now will have a pretext to you start joining the United States boycotting and having sanctions and they they were afraid they were GonNa do it anyway. I think trump sort of hinted that he wanted a secondary boycott that he would boycott countries that were doing business. And that scared a lot of people so I think they felt they had to preempt the European decision to save they face but they had violated we know from the Israeli raid and the documents that came back. They violated Enrichment levels they had advocated You re processor levels. They violated places where centrifuges were supposedly not being activated and they were and so oh. They always looked at this as ten years to bank money when the sanctions were called off and to Bank Accumulated expertise and then they were gonNA unleash it and say okay. We have a bomb. What are you going to do about it? And we couldn't do anything about it. So and then Smith was prominent in a series of articles of the time and then recently. Isn't that the whole Iran deal was designed for two reasons one to make sure they didn't get a bomb on Obama's eight-year watch and to in some misplaced incoherent crazy idea that you were going to balance or era moderate friends in the Gulf and Israel bill by empowering the Shia Persian crescent in Lebanon Yemen Syria and of course in Iran and then that would Created tension in which the United States could withdraw. And think that was the idea and I think their sympathies of the last administration were where the ran rather than with Israel and Saudi Arabia Kuwait in those countries and that was a disastrous decision and it gave around a lot of money gave them a lot of false else notions about US deterrence and it caused a lot of damage. And you can tell that it did because we now have a shadow government and British style. That's on the airwaves. In television. Almost non-stop John Kerry been roads social media. Susan Rice all desperate to show us that they didn't appease Iran and of course they did in the next six weeks can be very bad for them in the new cycle. It's GonNa show what they did. I think the final question that'll put you. How should we think about the health of the Iranian regime? I mean as you mentioned there are pre widespread protests now some of the reporting indicating that it's spreading spreading to areas where you didn't see it before and I guess you could say it was catalyzed by the shootdown of of the airplane but as you mentioned we've seen this before we start with the green revolution and ten years ago. We recently when they started cutting the gasoline subsidies. So how precarious do you take their hold on power to be and if we were to imagine agenda scenario where that regime was to topple how would you think about the future prospects for the country. Well I mean totalitarian regimes and that's it's what it is it's a theocracy in something analogous to the secular totalitarian regime in Venezuela they because they say they're doing the people they have lots more there are a lot more ready to use the power at their disposal to kill people. The Shaw was was. Discredited KLEPTOMANIAC Klepto Maniac Dynasty Family Dynasty was out. These guys have been in for forty years. And they know that the people hate them and their corrupt and but they're deeply embedded throughout society and so the question is how many people are they going to kill on and and they've killed fifteen hundred of them in the last couple of months so I imagine that people in the street knows that if they're going to go out there and try to remove this regime they're perfectly willing and capable of killing tens of thousands of Iranians and it's just a question of how bad the economy gets and when people get so desperate they say I can't go on like this and we'll see but there's one thing else that the Mola's and the permanent religious bureaucracy is widely despised yeah and if that government is overthrown on like the Shaw. There's going to be very few people that want to take this regime. I can't think of anybody North Korea Castro I don't know Castro who the cast. I don't know who would take them and so they they. They're they're thinking that if we lose power we'RE GONNA be dead SORTA like more and more Qaddafi regime so I think it will be an existential an long long drawn out war and I think it's a fifty fifty fifty chance that they'll make it through the year.

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"ely anderson" Discussed on The Classicist

The Classicist

14:26 min | 1 year ago

"ely anderson" Discussed on The Classicist

"The Morton and Ely Anderson said senior fellow at the Hoover Institution in Victor. Our conversation today is inspired by a piece that you published in National Review in which you try to Outlined the tenants of the doctrine of the principles that undergird foreign policy in the trump administration. And I'll just start is here with your introduction as has it appears in the piece quoting you hear Donald Trump's twenty sixteen campaign sought to overturn seventy five years of bipartisan Foreign Policy Orthodoxy. oxy especially as it applied to the Middle East close quotes. Okay so that as you explain the piece that Orthodoxy grew out of the Cold War but at least some permutation of it has still been with us in the thirty years or so since the Cold War ended. Why don't we start by just having you explain what the defining traits of that Orthodoxy were? Well it was based in Cold War on galvanizing the West to resist Soviet until lesser extent Chinese Communist expansionism then after the fall of the Berlin Wall eighty nine. It was calibrated by George. H W Bush to say that we're still the leader of the free world and we're going to protect and enhance the global world order. I guess New World Order. Whatever term he picked at the moment and what that meant was the assumption was that we were so wealthy and so powerful and now the hyperpower without a rival that we could afford any costs that meant meant? We wouldn't worry about medical trade with Europe or Japan or with a ascendant China and we would sort of mow the lawn if I could could use that metaphor about something. That's grisly death in places like Granada. Granada are Grenada. Excuse me or Panama or Nicaragua or Libya or the Bekaa Valley or more prominently with Saddam or Milosevic. This rogues gallery were We were going to make sure that they did not translate their regional popularity into a threat to commercial order or the sea lanes or international international commerce and that they wouldn't engage in state-sponsored terrorism. And we could do all that because we in our infinite wisdom. We knew how to put them down own and then to erase the conditions that created them and that kind of died. I think when we found out that we were not not as strong as we thought we were or that we were not as good nation builders we thought we were in places like Afghanistan Iraq or more importantly that China was never gonNA GONNA turn into Greenwich Village. Paolo Alto more concessions we gave to it. And so now we're sort of back to I guess. HR mcmasters there's national security Principal realism at one point in the. NRP's you talk about some of the reasons that this previous approach wasn't as good fit for the United States after the Cold War is it was during in one of the observations. You make their exhibit quote from the piece you say the. US was not really comfortable as an imperial global. Double watchdog too. What do you attribute that will part of its tour traditions? That we were from the constitution. We were sort of isolation as we did get involved Robert Robert Kagan and showed us that we did get involved but we never did so willingly in a preemptive manner we were always reactive and this this became especially important during the two Thousand Fifteen Dash Sixteen campaign when Donald Trump geared his tweaking or his modifications of traditional Republican issues by focusing on the electoral college rich swing states and one of the signature issues in addition to China and asymmetrical trade and open borders was option on what he called optional war which in his mind I think meant bad optics. Poor ratings medians but Nicole benefit businesslike. Analysis didn't Pencil Ow. and He. Then he added an especially poignant force multiplier to the the issue when he said and your sons and daughters end up dying for the abstractions of coastal elites. So whether he wants to end the bipartisan postwar consensus or not. I think he's being forced by events to modify them radically because he cannot win the election without that forty one or forty forty two percent base that he promised he would not engage in preemptive military excursions interventions. You you characterize the trump doctorate in this piece deterrence without intervention unpack. What you mean by that? Well if a rogue nation like Iran shoots down a drone or South Korea North Korea sets off a Mishel miss a missile in violation to what. It said it would not do that. How do you respond to that? Do you Sending troops to Syria when the Kurds are threatened by the Turks. Do you after you bomb. Libya do you put in ground troops to make sure. The postwar chaos doesn't couve adverse to our interest and the answer. It always been. Yeah you do. We have five thousand troops in Syria of all places and we have. I don't know seven or eight thousand still in Afghanistan. We probably have about five thousand in Iraq with count various personnel and trump came along and said a mock GonNa do that anymore as much as he could good because he was fighting his own secretary secretaries of state and defense secretaries but his point was that you can to deter people without intervening in fact when you do intervene and you're not successful that erodes deterrence has happened in Afghanistan take one example Libya. So how do you do that and that is I think what he's trying to get at is his model would be the bombing that blank blank out of Isis. That is is for whatever aggression that you experience you. We tally eight disproportionately but not on the ground so for ran the next time take down a US plane or tries to hijack than we would reply disproportionately either with cruise missiles or aircraft craft. But there would be no pretense that that would solve the problem forever or that we're GONNA turn ran into a democracy. It would just be disproportionate portions retaliation intended to remind them not to do it again because escalating costs is not in their interest. If we're considering the at at this point nearly three years the Donald Trump has in the books now as commander in chief. How would you judge? the extremes of his foreign policy performance. It's by which I mean. What are the foreign policy challenges? You think he's handled the most definitely in the lease deftly. Well I think he's done the best by shattering the pretense that things were normal or that certain policies were sacrosanct. That we're utterly bankrupt. Just give you example. I think the Iran deal was the guarantee you that Iran would get a bomb within fifteen years. And that's over with nobody who really crafted. It really believed anything other than it was a face-saving even measure I think Moving the US embassy to Jerusalem was very important that. Tell telling the Syrians where you're never we're going to get the Golan Heights back. Just forget about it was important. Cutting off the seven hundred million to the Palestinians who were foul they were not represented refugees forty seven years years after the creation of Israel and so those things were very good and then trying to forge a new type of trade deal with Mexico and Canada Canada. Asking that China policy I think is the best thing he's done because I think he's reminded the country both left and right that China considered sittard are magnaminity say symmetrical trade relationship is weakness to be exploited not as a difference to be reciprocated. And I think that's important Morton on North Korea And Afghanistan in Syria. I think he inherited these messes. And he's try to different mercurial hot cold friends enemies approaching sort of art of the deal chaos. And we don't really know the results of those yet now. The biggest problems he he's had I think is largely WANNA process that I mean he. He's he's had. These high profile resignations of people like Jim Mattis or John Bolton Rex Tillerson our hr sure. mcmasters firing resignations. Whatever you WANNA call them and so although that's not necessarily I mean? Obama had four secretaries of defense. It's not necessarily a regular but it plays into a media narrative that there's chaos in the White House and then supposedly people abroad pick up on that but that has to be set aside against the fact that he really radically rebuilding our defenses and just the first three years by spending a lot more money in the Pentagon so I'm pretty happy with his foreign policy policy even though nobody else seems to be but I think principal realism or determine without intervention seems to be the trademark especially you successful in getting rid of Isis Most people think is greatest. Fault was a Syria. embroil Golo in broadly. Why not not helping the Syrian Kurds but they never really enunciated or outlined articulated an alternative policy in which are day facto? Friends the the Kurds which are not our day your allies. We're going to be in a shooting. War With our dairy allies who the Turks or not are de facto friends. And how we were going to have two hundred or so tripwire troops in between that and how that was going to be a manageable situation. I don't think it was. How do you respond to the criticism? which did you hear from both left and right I'll be motivated. I think by different factors but there's a criticism that this less interventionist approach is a kind of abandonment of America's traditional role as global leader. And that this leaves a vacuum that other less savory powers will fell what what's your response. Then there's some argue there's some truth to it but I think it misses the long range strategy or logic of the trump if I could use that term doctrine which is something like this is that let Russia do in Syria what other countries will get bogged gusted in Afghanistan or let if Turkey really wants to go into this coast. This Border Corridor. Let him stay there the next twenty years and see how they like it or of China really wants to build harbours everywhere from the Balkans to the PYRO. As and it wants to colonize Africa let it go and see what happens. Meanwhile L. Let the United States get a booming economy and a huge military and then shore up economic commercial and military power and then be very wise and where it it's expressed and then when it's xpress do so an overwhelming terms that reminds everybody who the real power or is even at that power is not manifest in these these mini episodes and the problem is I said in the article. Is that for that for that doctrine to be manifested seen as credible you have to use it. Once in a while or the people think well trump is erratic attic chaotic. We got we got to be careful about him but finally they say well he's radic. He talks but he actually won't do anything. And that's the danger of the Obama tried something similar. He gave red lines and stuff and they didn't do anything. Trump started off well by changing the rules of engagement and retaliating against depots. Supposed- chemical weapons in in Syria then and then bombing isis. And he's going to have to do that occasionally to to maintain this doctrines credibility so that perhaps leads us logically to my final question for you..

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"ely anderson" Discussed on The Classicist

The Classicist

06:17 min | 1 year ago

"ely anderson" Discussed on The Classicist

"Hello, and welcome to the classes podcast. I'm your host Troy Senic here with Victor Davis Hanson, the Morton and Ely. Anderson senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and Victor, I base our discussion today on a piece that you recently had at national review entitled why go west. And whether you sit this piece up is to look at three of the most visible new progressive members of congress Alexandria, Cossio Cortez, Illinois Omar, and Rashida to leave all of whom are either the descendants of immigrants or an Omar's case in immigrant herself. And given their politics, you find an irony in that fact. Why don't you start us out just by explaining that? Yeah. We'll all more is a immigrant or self and. Accost Cortez's father was born in the United States, but her mother was in emigrant from Puerto Rico, and then Toledo parents came from Palestine. There's nothing wrong with having views critical of the United States. But there is an irony in that they have both lodged generic complaints, especially all more about how disappointed she was when she got here and saw the status of social Justice or something in poverty coming from east Africa where death and destruction disease. Inequality oppression exploitation, or just daily occurrences. And then accustomed Cortez has been very critical of the United States as well. And, you know, been very loud, Torey of Puerto Rico to leave just the other day said she was in one of the craziest things I've ever heard said. She was so proud of riposting heritage because they offered safe refuge to Jews fleeing. The holocaust gave com. Com feelings when she thought of the holocaust don't think one really associates that those feelings. But gosh, we all know the grand movie went to Hitler in forty two and promise to help out. All Jews set foot in Palestine. In addition to the ones that have been there for three thousand years. So I guess what I'm saying is, there's no recognition that their parents were very lucky to get to the United States that they grew up in relative affluence in leisure in safety and security in. There's never any acknowledgement of why that was. So and then when you add the second facet is. If you look at their policies, which I guess, are socialist, they've all at one time, another describe themselves socialist, and they described themselves supporters of the new green deal to ban internal combustion engines in twelve years. And I guess we would call near Venezuela social Justice plan of abolishing is in abolishing student debt abolishing, the electoral college Medicare for everybody wealth tax, etc. Cetera. They would create the conditions reminiscent of Africa are Latin America. You wonder then you would or the Middle East, which are all in various degrees, failed societies. So then you think why would you flee some place your home or your parents, flee your your homelands, and then come to its antithesis on your own volition, and then once you get to it's volition advocate policies. That would take the. United States back to the failed status of your parents, or your own homeland makes no sense. It's analogous to California, Gino complain about terrible services in high taxes, and they go to Texas or Nevada. And they try to recreate California amongst the critics, there is this, this evergreen, Bill of indictment against the west that says our history is a reprobate, marred by racism, or sexism or homophobia through historians. Lynn's Victor, do you think about those charges? Well, I think they're pretty observed because the first question is story in as compared to what so chattel slavery is a great sin. But their societies today it still practice at least injured form of in, in Africa, especially in parts of Asia, the United States law, six hundred thousand of its citizens fighting to abolish that. Institution, which was largely confined to eleven confederate states and four five border states. And it's been over one hundred. You know, it's been hundred sixteen years since that bloodbath, then the other thing is that country doesn't have to be perfect to be good. Because inherent in the declaration in the constitution was this. Western idea of self. Critique evolution. Self criticism and that's lacking in most other cultures. Almost immediately from our founding people were saying we should do this. We should've been that we should have a Bill of rights, we should do this who always evolving along these principles. Whereas most countries are not doing it. And then finally more concrete empirically. Why do we have the most immigrants have any country in the world each year? And in fact, we're almost at the point where we have more immigrants trying to get in the United States or at least a writing in the United States and all the other immigrants to all the other countries combined. So people are syncing something in the concrete that all of our critics in the abstract or missing. And we know why they're coming because someone has been about fifty different countries. I can tell you that I don't wanna have my appendix out ruptured my ruptured appendix out again in Libya. I don't want to be in a country like Iraq. I don't want to go to. Audie Arabia again, I got very ill in Egypt. I don't like I don't feel safe, or I don't feel it's healthy and most parts of Mexico that I've gone to, and there's a certain in a way or Lotus landlo- ISM, when

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