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"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

09:07 min | 4 months ago

"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

"And couple of other assets. You know one that they used in another trade later in the draft to assets. They picked up you know for next year they left for sean slater on the table You know at eleven ended up picking canarias tony so at twenty first of all kudos or wet released from you for For the selection of canaries tony For the selection of area's. Tony i definitely was not a fan of him. I didn't have rated as a first round selection. I think for for the giants. This seemed to be to me a reached. Because they must have gone to smith. And i think the trade i give kudos to the trade. The trade wasn't bad. I know passing over. Sean slater can hurt. But i think the trade was good to get those future assets to to kind of rebuild on the fly with a team. That still has some talent. But you know i would have said. Hey take take christian. Dr saw and get that future i and get some of those pieces that would have been a slam dunk for me. I think area's. Tony is a role player. And i i just. Don't see him when i take a by receiver in the top twenty. I wanna be a difference maker. That's going to be a starter. Be a study and i think you'll have an impact. I think he can have a positive impact on what defenses have to do. But i don't think we're ever going to see him. Feel like oh. This guy was worth that pick. I just don't think it's going to happen. And i think you could have gotten other receivers later in the draft. That could have filled that role and done just fine. I know that you know the giants fan base giants community is really down on tony right now because he's barely practiced but You know which doesn't help. But i want to believe that there are some dijon jackson include. Area's tony in the fact that he can help you in the return game that he's electric in that area Maybe he's not. The speed bernard deep threat. You know kinda. just blow by defenses from wide receiver. But i want to believe that he can have that that kind of impact. But but maybe. I'm just maybe i'm being overly optimistic. I think that impact is that potentially there. i For him to be able to electric on the field we definitely saw that. This past season florida. He other than kyle pits. He was the central point of the offense. Getting the ball. In his hands. In scrimmage short after landis cribbage in letting him do what he could do in the open field. So i think he has that ability to To gain planet for him. I think he can be useful My big fear is twofold in you. Hit on one of it then. I understand giants fans trepidation. Because he was hurt a in college. That was a big problem and now it's a big problem now. I think it's something that has to be factored in and the other thing is bat just a a year of you know. Two years ago he was sixth on the depth chart To me i generally guys that come into college that developed fairly quickly that get up that depth chart show that talent early The fact that he couldn't crack that earlier in florida good receivers some late drafted receivers but wasn't anyone out of this world. That scares me a little bit too. Is this a player that can be consistent so now i think if he stays healthy. There's some potential there like you said special teams him to be a gadget player. I just don't know if that's worth the twentieth picked overall are. Let's move on round two aziz. Ojha lari for me. This is a major kudos for me before. This stuff came out about the possibility of of long-term issues with his knee. Know he's a guy that i i would have been happy with at eleven. I would've been happy with him at twenty. Regardless to be honest i mean. He's a guy when i looked at this draft. I thought he was perfect for the giants. Defense he's a big time kudos for me to get him at fifty Where do you have him talent wise. It's a huge kiddos for me. As well i agree with you. I guess you know this draft would probably look better if you flip those players obviously tony when the fall in that far but if you had taken you have the giants to take stony in the second round disease july twenty th then i definitely like it a lot more. I think he has that tie. High-end top pass rusher talent in. He didn't georgia against scc players against players. That are starting in the nfl in you saw. That burst into the first step for him. I think it's just unbelievable and that's something that you can't really teach her improve upon so those are the type of things that i like to to grab one irate guys. His first round picks like did have those laurie. I think he has that kind of lightning. Quick off the snap movement. That's very tough to defend In he plays pretty low and so it becomes very becomes very dangerous so the the knee issues. The only thing i. I don't know enough about it to me. There's been so many times when we've heard these medical issues even in the same draft of guys to medical problems and they get drafted and they come in and they light up camp and they become starters maybe they play two or three less years than they would have but are still fine i i i'd take that chance all day on a player with his talent. Alright third round pick. Aaron robinson cornerback out of Ucf unfortunately starting the year on pop but Long term you think. That's kudos or a wet willy for the giants. That's a kudos pick for me. That's about where i had him. I think actually had a little bit higher maybe late second round one of the most physical corners. Of the line of scrimmage in this. That's what in robson to really well playing it at ucf. Sometimes you didn't see that top and competition but they actually had a pretty decent out of conference schedule. And he held up with some good receivers He's not the he's plays a little stiff. He's not the you know. Most versatile athletes not gonna run up and down the field on you but it doesn't seem as the way. The giants defense is trending that he's got play tough and he's gonna make receivers earn it and i think as nfl receivers get smaller and smaller a player. Like you're aaron. Robinson can stick around and be really good. So i i was really happy with that selection for them how about ellison smith fourth-round edge rusher out of northern iowa. Kid who. I was really excited to see the giants landed in the fourth round. And i'll throw in As a bonus. Since ellison smith is on i r i will also ask you for thoughts on quincy rochet who the giants just picked up on waivers from the steelers basically to take smith's place on the roster so so both of those guys cures the boats i think ellison smith the irs you is. It always stinks. When happens but he was one of the best moscow players in this draft. The senior bowl he definitely showed he belonged against some of the high end competition. There guys that were top fifty picks And you know for him. He has such long arms and knows how to use them really well and how to use them against that level competition so i i think there's learning curbs wise a fourth round. Pick like he asked to learn some of the nuances of position. How kinda stack and shed had to do. A lot of those things that he didn't have to rely on At the college level. But if you teach him to do that. I mean i think you have. Potential rotational pass rusher in the fourth round. That can be very dangerous So i really like them. And i i like quincy rush as well and he he performed pretty well at steelers camp But which i covered for a couple days At hides fields and i thought he i thought he would make that roster didn't have space but I mean he's a player who transferred to miami kind of got lost behind Jalen phillips who went in the first round but was always very disciplined. Very solid And you know. I think i think that's gonna be kind of what he does for the giants in nice reserve player a- temple he was excellent before he transferred miami. And you know. I thought he could be a top hundred pick so i i think it all all these kind of pass rushers really fit the giants defense really well. I was one of the best parts of the straps. I just for what it's worth. I banged the drum for the giants to to draft. Rochet somewhere the middle rounds. I bang that drum for probably a coupla months. So i'm thrilled to see him with the giants now. let's so let's put the two sixth round picks together Cornerback road areas williams. Running back gary bright. Well i was a little bit surprised by both picks actually but Both guys have performed pretty well in training camp.

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"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

08:59 min | 5 months ago

"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

"To you on wednesday august twenty fifth after the first day of giants patriots joint practices in foxborough. Massachusetts was a sweltering hot day in foxborough as the giants and the patriots practiced for more than two hours in a practice. That saw a lot of eleven on eleven and seven on seven work really good work for both teams The big big news of the day was of course that giants cornerback. Dorie jackson signed to a three year. Thirty nine million dollar contract during the off season to Occupy the corner opposite. James bradbury for the giants left practice with a left ankle injury. Severity of that injury is unknown. I know further tests are going to be performed the reports that i've seen an heard indicate that the giants think that jackson will be back for the season opener against the denver broncos on september twelfth almost three weeks away. But we don't know how these things go. you know. Injuries are weird. I mean when. Kenny golladay got hurt at the beginning of august. They told us that That it wouldn't be long that it was a mild hamstring strain in that he'd be back soon and here. We are near. The end of august in golladay hasn't practiced yet so it's a concerning injury for the giants who who sang jackson for a reason they signed him. Because the cornerback situation opposite. James bradberry wasn't good last year. The giants went through corey ballantyne. They went through isaac yada them. They used julian. Lov the also used ryan lewis at at at points last year and none of those guys really proved one hundred percent satisfactory as starting cornerbacks opposite bradberry. Giants played far more zone a year ago because of that then they wanted to and and jackson's presence is expected to allow them to play a lot more man to man to be a lot more aggressive in the secondary so hopefully he will be back sooner rather than later. Hopefully that injury is not incredibly serious soup but we will have to see that injury did point out something that we've been looking at with the giants and that is that in truth. The cornerback depth. Really isn't there for the giants right now beyond bradberry jackson and starting slot. Cornerback darnay homes. You really don't have a whole heck of a lot at the moment you've got sixth round. Pick row derrius williams. Who's had a good training camp. A good preseason looks like a guy who could be a player at for the giants. But you don't really don't wanna put a heavy heavy starting load on his plate right away week one of his rookie season. He is a sixth round. Pick he does have a lot to learn. He competes he tackles. He plays hard. He can play outside. He can play the slot. He's shown a little bit of versatility to play safety but he's also given up his fair share completions throughout camp and the preseason still has a lot to learn still has a lot to adjust to as an nfl player and putting him out there for a heavy load of snaps during a regular season. Game is probably not a recipe for success beyond that. The giants traded a week. Gopher to corners. Josh jackson from the green bay packers in a trade for isaac bottom and kion cross in from the houston texans. We still really don't know a whole lot about those two players. we didn't see them in the cleveland. Browns preseason game really haven't seen them on the practice field at least as part of the defense to this point so not really sure if the giants expect those guys to be able to help. Rookie cornerback. aaron robinson remains on the pup list hasn't practiced beyond them. You have madre harper in sam bill and neither of those guys has really been impressive throughout training camp. Neither of those guys who are really expected to make the fifty three man roster in a week so unfortunately the jackson injury has pointed out that the giants really really need cornerback. Help with that in mind. Nick philosophy of big blue view took a look on wednesday at some cornerbacks that the giants could look at to supplement the position. So please check out biglou view checkout nick's story on on those corners as as we look at the giants and as we look at the way that they try to shape their fifty three man roster here in another week all right the other thing that the jackson injury pointed out. Is that when you look at the giants you have a dory jackson. You have kenny golladay. You have could derrius tony. You have saquon barkley sidelined. Although barclay is expected to practice on thursday wearing a red jersey. But we don't still don't know if barkley will be ready for week one against the broncos you can also throw john ross into that mix you can throw a couple of the rookies aaron robinson who we mentioned already ellison smith in addition to ca- derrius. Tony and what you have here. Kyle rudolph who is just coming back from his foot injury and who practiced for the first time on wednesday. Did some individual drills. Wouldn't commit to being ready for week. One against the against the broncos what you have here with the giants is a situation where all of the players who were added to this roster to upgrade the passing attack to upgrade the for the most part to upgrade the pass rush all of these players are currently unavailable thus when you look at practice on wednesday it shouldn't be any surprise that the giants struggled really to complete passes in anything other than a short area of the field. They did okay in the red zone but they couldn't push the ball down the field. They were also in a practice. Where evan ingram and sterling. Shepard seemed to be having their snaps monitored so they weren't taking a full load of snaps but it's concerning less than three weeks away from the season opener that basically all of the players that the giants counted on to really and truly upgrade this roster are currently own available so daniel jones and company on the offensive side are still working with the same personnel for the most part that finished thirty first in the league offense a year ago so we shouldn't expect miracles when we watch these practices. It is what it is. The giants don't have their full complement of playmakers available. Right now we have to cross our fingers and that those guys will be available for week. One that they'll be available early in the season that they'll get enough practice time in fit. The offense isn't helter skelter and and and you know a mess when the season starts but right now things are a little bit concerning with the giants because so many of the key players they brought in hoping to upgrade this roster for twenty twenty one are currently unavailable. Alright a giants fans. What i wanna do right now is take a short break for a word from our sponsors here at sp nation. When we come back. I will be talking to ryan spag noli of sp. Nations pats pulpit. Who was also at the joint practice on wednesday and we'll chat with ryan and we'll get the new england perspective on what we saw on wednesday morning support for this episode comes from adidas. We all know when you go on your.

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"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

06:02 min | 5 months ago

"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

"You can almost see him. Go through a checklist of okay. Do i wanna go here. How do i like this whole. Okay do i wanna go here. Can i beat this defender end when he gets into that mode. I think that's when you start to see him. See his game almost almost slowdown but he doesn't ever do anything slow. But that that is when you kind of start to see him get caught. Behind the line of scrimmage that in when there's failures in the blocking upfront. But i think that's is a different issue for the team to address and make sure that doesn't happen but if the offense can keep him from having to make all of those checks all of those different reads end you keep him from having to think too much. I think that will keep allow him to play much more quickly and more explosively and getting to see how he works in with. The new offense. I think is a really good point that you bring up nick. And i think that that will also be following that very closely within the first few weeks because we didn't really get to see what he was capable of doing and how jason garrett was going to utilize him now. We're going to be exposed to that. Hopefully we get to see saquon fully healthy the entirety of the season but speaking of fully healthy i guess oceans jimenez the edge rusher who has been with the giants for a few years now as previously a third round pick is coming off the pup after having a hamstring issue separate from the injury that pretty much kept him off. The field for a majority of last season with his shoulders. Zimmer says is back in the rotation in competition guys. Do we think that this this time off has been detrimental for zuma's or do we think that he can step right back in now that he's off the pop. I think it's definitely detrimental because this isn't a coaching staff that selected him. This is a coaching staff that he played up through week three. I think it was the forty niners. You got a lot of reps in that game because it ended up being a blowout down the stretch but that graham really relies on his edge players to be able to set an edge or to to hold up in some manner against the run because a lot of the times patrick graham lines up those mid nickel packages over those type fronts and they try to spill everything outside to the edge defender the secondary force defender. And you need defender to be able to hold up against the run in and o'shane hasn't necessarily proven that quite yet in the league. He doesn't really have the best frame for that as an edge player. So i think he. I don't don't think is uphill battle to crack the roster. But i think if there were to be surprised cut. It might be him now that he's back off the pup. I think it's a great sign because he can show his worth to this coaching staff. And you have guys like ryan anderson who are out right now. Ellison smith is kind of dealing with some injuries. So a lot of the other players at that position group outside of ziesel laura there also a little dinged up so if he can step in today and really kinda show is worth show that he can play against the run. I mean that's going to be a solid. I would say Be solid for him to possibly make this roster for the first time in a while. Chris joe i mean the giants deep giants giants are gonna have to make some cuts that are going to be like all. They caught him all. That guy was pretty good. That guy was saw. And that's a good problem to have but a mid is going to have to have a strong camp. I think to solidify position on this team which is possible. Yeah i think that's the way to look at it where he isn't guaranteed a roster spot. I think if he is cut it would be a surprise. But i don't know that he is. He definitely isn't on a scholarship right now. He is going to have to work to avoid being cut. And i think it's probably fair to look at him as maybe the third or fourth edge right now. I think it'll be as easily. Laurie end lorenzo. Carter as the two guys who have probably the best chance of starting also probably whichever of the two veteran edges make this final grade then. It's probably yo ellison smith and oceans jimenez and yeah. The giants are deep. They're you know for the first time in a while. Probably since twenty sixteen twenty seventeen the giants will actually have waves of pass. Rushers descend after quarterbacks. Not all the guys are super dynamic like some teams that have been just picking up ridiculously athletic pass. Rushers left right center. But they do have that depth they can rotate in guys. Who are fresh that can rotate in. A unique and varied skill sets to adapt to changing circumstances in situations in the game. Guys who are athletic guys who play with good technique guys who can drop into coverage to make the blitz schemes even harder for quarterbacks to figure out and like you said they could be forced to make some very difficult cuts just by the numbers game. And that's terrible for the players but it's a good problem for the team. A lot of heads that are in there are going to be competing for roster spots in new. Make a really good point. It's good for the team that you have a lot of different options to go with but it also it sucks for these guys that are competing machines him in as a former third round. Pick you'd think that at this point is career he would be a rotational guy. He would be having some type of an impact but now here he is on potentially the chopping block because they brought in some free agents at his position. They weren't the previous coaching staff. That drafted him. So zimmer says right now after missing a period of time during training camp is going to need to really prove himself if he wants to stick around on this roster coming up we are going to discuss briefly to signings one at a more notable position. Before we get to that though. We're just gonna take a short commercial break. Thanks to t mobile for supporting this episode and.

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"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

04:07 min | 6 months ago

"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

"Go to ohio and go to massachusetts and not be able to make any plays on offense not be able to get anything done with their starting offensive players if those if they get to those practices and they can't do anything well on offense then yes. I'll be concerned right now. Though i'm not flipping out about one practice you guys feel free to flip out if you want to. I'm not going to tell you how to feel about about that. I know there are some of you. That are already convinced that that there's no way daniel jones can be equality. Nfl quarterback and you're entitled to that opinion. You know mine is that look. I don't know what daniel jones is going to become. I don't know what's going to happen with the giants offense in twenty twenty one. But i'm not going to go jump off the bridge after one practice session at this point. Let's let it play out. Let's see what happens and we'll see where things end up but let's let's hope for some signs of improvement throughout the week. Let's hope we see we see the giants. Make a few more. Plays on offense Over the coming days another thing to to monitor this week and as we go forward throughout training camp but to be honest is the progress of the giants twenty twenty one rookie class. We've talked a lot about canarias. Tony we know. We haven't seen tony yet. Hopefully a guy who's been described as electric and really dangerous with the ball in his hands. Hopefully tony gets on. The field stays healthy throughout at least the rest of training camp and his able to prepare for the twenty twenty one season and be ready to help the giants right from the beginning of the season. September twelfth against the denver broncos home at metlife stadium. But you know as you think about it. There's so much excitement when the draft comes along so much fans put so much into the draft and they get fired up about the players that that that their team brings in and they wanna know what sort of impact those guys will have you know in the in the first seasons of their careers. And and if you look at it the giants twenty twenty one rookie. Class is kind of off to a slow start here. Tony hasn't practice. Jet third round pick. Aaron robinson has not practiced yet because of a core muscle injury fourth round pick. Ellison smith has not been on the field. He's been off to the side working so you're looking at a situation where the only draft picks for the giants who have really been on the field our second round pick z's ojha lori and with non-contact practices. We really haven't seen much of ojha. Laurie in terms of making splash. Plays or or anything like that Also the to sixth-round picks running back. Gary brightwell and cornerback. Road darius williams. One thing i do know is when you talk to joe judge. I do believe that he really likes road. Darius williams that is not a guarantee that williams will make the roster as a backup. Cornerback but he is a player worth keeping an eye on and also. It's just worth you know keeping an eye on this rookie class overall. Because it does feel like they're off to a little bit of a slow start. Always a learning curve as joe judge talks about these guys need to learn how to become pros. They need to really learn what the pro game is all about. And hopefully you know. Hopefully things pick up for tony. For ellison smith hopefully robinson is healthy enough to to get on the field soon in and be able to to be productive in his rookie season. Alright giants fans You know please remember to To check out big blue views coverage every day from training camp. Check.

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"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

01:43 min | 6 months ago

"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

"Better to have a guy who's really block better at one thing and a lot weaker than another. I think that maybe for graham. It makes a lot more sense to go with the dental. Because like you guys said. He's the more well rounded player. And i would say also. A lot of the giants moves have seen geared toward helping their pass wash which is another storyline. I'm kind of interested in watching over the course of canton. Preseason last year they really needed their coverage to generate their pass rush but this year they go out they draft. -ocial are draft ellison smith they get these two free agents they are hopefully getting lorenzo carter and oceans inez back. You know. we'll see what happens with both of those guys you know. They've also got cam. Brown carter coughlin. They've got a whole bunch of bodies which we went over it a lot. More depth than our edge preview yet they. They can't want to really have to rely on their coverage to generate their pass rush. Get they want to be in the position of sending waves of pass rushers after quarterbacks. I mean that that's what pretty much every defense wants to be in the position of being able to do well folks. I think that is going to be a great notes. Wrap up today's show as you can see a lot to consider when talking about this year's training camp for the new york giants we will continue to provide coverage as well as finishing up our positional previews throughout training camp. And the preseason brochure. Be sure to hit that. Subscribe button if you wanna stay up to date and then if you like listening to our show. Please let us know. But some positive feedback. Five stars would be much. Appreciated also had biglou dot com and follow us.

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"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

04:52 min | 6 months ago

"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

"Alright giants fans ed. Valentine back here on. Valentine's views podcast talking with patricia trainer. Giants country in the lock done giants podcast as we preview. You're twenty twenty one giants training camp which begins officially on tuesday. Patty we've been talking about offense. Let's talk a little bit about defense and really the one the one topic that i find really interesting. Entering training camp on defense is how the edge rusher situation is going to pan out. I think the giants have so. Many options are on the edge. Do you find that to be one of the most fascinating position groups entering camp. I do you know. There's an old saying you know quant. Quality is better than quantity. The giants have quantity but do they have quality. I think they do you know. I like z's larry i think he's gonna develop into a fine every down. You know edge. Rusher for them If lorenzo carter is fully healthy and it was a good sign that we saw him during the The spring he was on his way to becoming quite a force before that injury that he suffered. Now what about the rest of the gang there. What are they gonna get from. Ellison smith who was deaf. I believe they're fourth-rounder you know is ryan anderson. Done a play a role there What about o'shane zimmer. Says who seems to be the forgotten guy. What kind of role is he gonna play. And then you have some linebackers you know cam brown and carter coughlin. Did some some edge work last year. But you know. I think carter coughlin's going back towards the to being an inside linebacker more than at edge rusher is cam brown a situational guy so you have a bunch of guys there that you know the question is do. They have a guy who's going to be productive or tune. They really need a strong three man rotation i think at that position. I don't know that they have it yet. We have to see if they do but based on what they have on paper you can make the argument that they do but you know what they have on paper versus with they have on the field two very different things so definitely something to keep an eye on and you know the other thing on defense that i'm really interested in is how the how the secondary shakes out just in terms of how patrick graham uses all of the pieces that that they have have competition in the slot. You between darnay homes and rookie. Third round pick aaron robinson. Plus you have several other defensive backs capable of playing in the slot. You've got lots of competition for for backup spots in the defensive secondary. You've got xavier mckinney heading into his second year hopefully his first full season first healthy season. Is there any any position battle. Anything in this secondary that that really intrigues. You enter camp. Just how many different combinations can patrick graham. Come up with. i mean. This is kind of like a rubik's cube in a away except Instead of trying to solve get all the you know the colored squares to match on each side of the cube. There's so many different combinations that he can put together you know. Is he going to put a for. Example xavier mckinney in the slot on third downs whereas aaron robinson gonna fit in. Is he going to be the star linebacker. Is he gonna take over the slot. So there's a lot of questions but there's also a lot of different combinations that i think pacha gram. He's you know if i'm patrick graham. I'm probably sitting there. And i can't wait to run through some of these combinations and see what works what doesn't work and then figure out when i'm going to deploy them in certain game situations and there. There's a lot i mean. There's probably once that we probably haven't even thought of the patrick graham on his long list of you know personnel. Pack is probably has come up with a few new and creative ways to deploy those guys if we know grand patty. He'll he'll he'll come up with a few more of those tuesday morning. Sure he's probably know. Hey interesting things about the giants last season. Patty was that they struggled in some areas on special teams. Graham gano had a tremendous year as placekicker but the giants didn't get a whole lot from their return game canaries..

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"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

03:15 min | 6 months ago

"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

"Just not in training camp right now because of kobe. I think all these things can definitely help the giants getting a healthy saquon. Barkley back certainly help the giants and will force defense is to call their game. Plans much differently that will kind of alleviate all the pressure that was on daniel of daniel jones can maybe face a little bit easier types of coverages. That would be great. But there's there's reason to be concerned about those three things. But at the same time like i said the range of outcomes they're very vast that can all work out as well. I don't think it's as doom and gloom whatsoever. That matt pair is on the pup right now of his back but if we're three weeks into training camp couple preseason games down matt still hasn't played start having some concern there. 'cause i don't really want to see nate. Sold out there and if something what happened. Nate solder andrew. Thomas who look at jackson barton. What would it. What are we going to do then. Hope that another team releases a competent tackle which is never going to happen. Should never going to happen because it doesn't happen. So the depth on the offensive line is still a concern rightfully. So i don't wanna see chad slade out. There you know and these other guys were on the pup list o'shane's jimenez figured he would be. This is a hamstring. He had the off season shoulder issue. Seems like he's been dinged up and he somebody that a lot of giant fans or at least people on giants twitter. It could be a cut candidate. I still remain salah high on him but he wasn't drafted to play this defensive system. I think he could have success in another role but he has improved the fact that he can hold up at the point of attack. Which is such a core part of playing on early downs and patrick. Graham system. The drafted ellison smith ellison smith similar profile to oceans. As so she's menez needs to prove himself in training camp if he wants to earn roster spot because for once in for once in a long time. At least it seems like giants. Have some depth on this team and they're going to be possibly good players. Giants have to release uncle to make that final roster and oceans admitted. I mean he's on the fringe. There is and i'm not trying to speak down on him or anything like that but he has to see the field in the summer to prove himself because the giants added to this age group the added i see dod. They added ellison they added disease. Laurie they added ryan anderson. That's a lotta bodies right there. And then i hope erin robinson. I don't know the extent of his core muscle injury. Hope he can get back to your training camp. Because i think the battle between aaron robinson darning homes can just be incredibly credibly fun to watch. When the media's they're recording because darnay homes showed a lot of great signs last year he. I feel like he had some mistakes. He got really grabby. Wasn't the best. In in certain situations he would lose his coverage assignment and didn't have as much spatial awareness. And i talked about this Before he was also high load a lot but that was more of a product of the offense targeting heyman putting him into conflict. And that's really a tough position for him to be in. It's not necessarily his fault. It's kind of a catch. Twenty two if you buy down the deep route two check down and you're going to surrender some yards but if you try to go in and attack squad down on the underneath route and you're to.

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"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

08:44 min | 6 months ago

"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

"So chris this is something that we were going back and forth on before we started recording. The show is who sticks around on the roster and before we get into that conversation. I think we need to just hit on these backup players. The last three that have been listed at edge rushing roles or coughlin who was a rookie. Last year played. Mostly special teams did get some opportunities to get on. The field. didn't look all that great nassim to do some stuff that i don't think he was very comfortable doing and there was a reason why we saw him struggle. But then there's also trent harris and then there's also garrett kale so these three guys separate from some of the other names that we mentioned are probably the love most likely to get cut maybe or coughlin lands himself onto the practice squad but they have the biggest uphill battle to make this roster. Yeah i would agree with that. I think the giants like car coughlin. He is a guy who he's got a really strong work ethic he's got a great motor. He's a better athlete than i think he gets credit for but like you said when he got on the field he struggled. Yeah i think he could be in a battle with cam brown for that back end of the roster primarily special teams role with a chance to work as we on the field and defense. But he's going to have to pick it up because brown in that area does have a head start on him. Trent hair scare kale. I think the guys to watch in training camp but like you said they've got an uphill battle we also do have to pay attention to the numbers game. You know. we've got three guys. We think are going to have a sizeable share of the snap. Count and then. We've got four guys. We have a strong presence as a rotation. do the giants keep seven edge players. Or is it just six. Could ellison smith not cam brown off the bat off the back end of the roster and they basically just keep five down defensive lineman and six ed rushers unfortunately when we when you get as many bodies at a position as the giants have right now. The numbers game starts to be a very real consideration and giants could wind up being forced to make difficult decision with a guy they would really rather keep on their roster that i think is going be the largest debate that will be having in regards to this defense. And who makes the roster. Because you can't really say like oh it. You know the it makes sense. They've got a deep group. They're gonna keep seven guys. Look at the secondary. The secondary is the most crowded group on the roster and they're going to need spaces extra spaces. I think more than most teams to keep a lot of these guys on the roster and there's going to be somebody that is going to be cut. I think from the edge rushers or the defensive line. That is a recognizable name that we would have hoped would have at least gotten maybe a season or two more before. They parted ways with the giants and the two guys that i look at the most. That might be in that conversation because realistically it's probably going to be six it might. There's even a possibility might be five. I don't think that's going to happen. But there are going to be some serious constraints on how many edge rushers they can keep in the to that. I think come into play the most four competing for a roster spot right now even though they weren't doing so really last year is kim brown and is o'shane shane's inez. Like right now. The two of them i think of the most approve because they brought in some veteran free agents. They're going to give some of those guys. I think a little bit more the benefit the doubt because they've actually gotten more reps in live games. They've been competitive for other teams and they were basically hand selected to step into roles that were unproductive last year. If you have to go out and get guys in free agency for your positions. That usually means that the coaching staff is looking for competition. And they weren't necessarily impressed with what you showed so far. So oceans jimenez cam brown. I think right now are probably the biggest guys that might be surprised in the end of training camp yet and i really do feel there will be at least one surprise. Cut out of this group. We could even flag lorenzo carter as a potential surprise cut in the giants loved to turn the back into their roster. I'm not saying. Carter is going to be back under the roster type guy but they could find somebody to play that will linebacker position and if carter's injury lingers if they're just not happy with his development you know they really feel he should be an edge rusher and he is just not there yet They could decide. Hey we we just don't have any more time to spend trying to develop you. We wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors and we could see them maybe try to pounce on edge rusher that maybe a team like the browns or the forty niners teams with incredibly deep defenses. Cut i think that the edge group the linebacker group is probably going to be in the in the tightest constraints which you can consider some of these guys to be off ball linebacker slash slash edge rushers but considering the players they have along the defensive line and then most specifically the secondary is going to really force out some players because as we know this defense has been built around the secondary it is built around having quarterback stand there for extended periods of time until the defensive line in the edge. Rushers eventually get there. That is what has been the bread and butter. Maybe the approach alters slightly but it seems like the money and the effort that was spent in free agency there is going to be a huge emphasis still on the secondary. And we'll we'll talk about the safeties and the corners on separate shows and we'll probably talk about other surprise. Names that are recognizable players that are going to get cut from those groups but separate from that chris. I think with our backups. Here carter coffin. Trent harris gear kale are in a bit of a tight squeeze. We don't really know. A whole lot from trenton harrison garrett kale i think the more that's surprising but the more recognizable name is not going to make this for pretty much guarantee is carter coughlin. I just don't see a way that he squeaks into the roster unless they're obsessed with how he plays as a special teamer but it's just gonna be too tough for him considering all the guys ahead of him considering his limitations as an athlete and then we saw him struggle in various things last season when they asked him to get on the field and play more. Yeah he's going to have to make a pretty big jump in his play like just an incremental improvement. That'll be nice. But i don't think that's going to make enough to get him on the final fifty three man roster and yet. There's just one other thing i want to note. And that is the loss of rep. Yelma your i know. We're this is really a position group preview. But i think the giants losing their outside linebackers coach. He went back to coach at the college ranks. That's something i think. We were all expected expecting to see at some point but we did. Even though the giants pass rushers weren't a really impact group last year. we did see lorenzo. Carter take a step forward before he got hurt. We saw cuyler. Fakher will make some plays on. The giants didn't get a whole lot of out of marcus golden but when he was on the field last year he had an impact. And i'm just curious to see what another coaching change at that unit. Losing a guy who's very well regarded as a linebackers as a defensive coach. What effect that has no whether or not some of these young guys who were there last year maybe take a step backward without p. l. madera to coach them up some more. That's always going to be a big conversation point as well as there's been some rotations along this coaching staff. Who knows what we see. We see improvements. Do we see some set-backs that's going to be another thing as well where those relationships with some of the younger guys you have new face in there he's not really gonna go to bat for potentially guys that weren't around last season so we'll be tracking that as always we're going to be discussing and breaking down you.

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"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

05:01 min | 6 months ago

"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

"You could do worse than that. He's he kinda reminds me a lot of dave paulison from back in the day where he might be the first guy on the field but if he's out there you don't really worry. I think that assuming zimmer says is healthy that will be good enough to get him a roster spot now ellison smith. Everyone knows i really like him. He jumped off to feel to me at the senior bowl. I loved watching his tape. Just from a developmental standpoint. I think he's actually ahead of aziza jewelry. Just his technique is skill set as a pass rusher but he does have that jump to make from you know small school. Fcs didn't play last year. All the way up to the nfl whereas osirak are coming out of the sec where he had himself a big year last year is used to going up against guys like andrew. Thomas nfl caliber offensive linemen. And doing it down in down out so do think you're right. It's going to take a little bit to work. Ellison smith in but i think he could also wind up pushing for one of those high. Snap count roles once he gets going and i think the conversation with eller smith and what would really benefits him is that his build is very different than the other guys in the group. And you also can consider yourself. Is he going to be more of a down lineman rather than it edge rusher just because of how large he is and i feel as though in situations where they want a heavier front. They're probably going to call on ellison smith as long as he is shown the ability to go out there and compete with nfl guys. I don't see a reason. Why not again. He's physically developed enough to do so and he also spent a ton of time at you. And i going against spencer brown. Who's probably gonna get some playing time with the bills. And then also trevor pending. Who's going to be another. Nfl guy from northern iowa. Who's supposed to be drafted so You know if he's ready to go there probably gonna use him as like a heavy down guy in short yardage yardage situations maybe on some first downs. Where they're expecting a rushing play if they're just trying to get somebody who's more of a space eater who's going to take up some space on the edge. That they know is strong point of attack. Eller smith could provide that for them. I don't know if necessarily he'll get those third and long third and ten years back in go type roles that's probably going to be more anderson and opening bow and also osha lari instead. I think ellison might be a little bit in those situations where they just need a bigger body and one thing we do knows the giants really did not use a whole lot of four man. Front four down linemen like the four to five nickel now. That was pretty much the rest of the. Nfl's base defensive look. The giants didn't use that a whole lot. Part of that. I think was just due to the injuries. They had last year and really wear the strings of their defense. Were now. I think it's possible. We when they do use that front. We could see ellison smith. Lorenzo carter as those down. Defensive ends with Maybe bj hill end. Leonard williams as the interior defensive lineman. That could be a package. We see a fair amount next year. Just based on the body types available now the other thing too now that i think about it you could use ellison smith. This is the reason why. I believe we were all so excited. By this draft selection you could also use ellison smith in those those third down roles where you wanna go with just straight up all edge. Rushers and we. We saw that happen before. We've seen just have somebody lined lineup in the interior. Not even in a three point stance but in a standup stance and rush that way so they might go with a three man front and have ellison smith is the interior rusher or they might have him as just being additional interior guy. There's a lot of things that you can do with eller smith because of his size profile. So that's another possibility of how they could use them. Yeah absolutely his size is the thickness his length. And just how explosive he is. Yeah he had he had that really good ten yards split in that just great vertical leap of his. That is something you don't see all that often that is just a rare combination and there are like you said a bunch of ways. The giants can get him on the field and put that skill set to us. So coming up. We're going to talk about these backups. And then sharing who we believe won't make this roster in a very crowded edge rusher group before we get to though we are going to take a very short commercial break support for this episode comes.

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"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

06:14 min | 6 months ago

"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

"Unless he looks insanely unprepared during training camp and they don't feel comfortable putting him out there on the field but considering he was a second round pick a guy who many considered to be a first round talent. As long as these fully healthy -ocial ari is going to be on the field in playing. Because they're going to want him out there one to develop but also because he's an explosive guy that is going to create some some good opportunities for this defense. I do agree with you though chris. It's who gets on the field more between anderson and odor ningbo because both of them journeymen have have similar. Relatively similar styles skill sets but both having the opportunity to really prove them prove themselves in needing to prove themselves as that go to secondary pass. Rusher yeah and they're both basically the same size. Anderson is six to two fifty. Five ningbo is six three to fifty eight. They're almost the same age just a few months apart. They came at both came out of the twenty seventeen draft. It's going to be interesting. I think to see who really who winds up getting the the larger share of the defensive. Snap count because i think you you phrased perfectly that which edge defenders are on. The field is really going to come down to game situation. The style of defense the giants playing on that particular down. I think we will see a pretty healthy rotation out there. og lori will probably be the fixture the guy who is on the field the most but we're going to see a bunch of different guys out there both to get different skill sets on the field and to keep everybody well rested throughout the game and yeah. The crew. Trajectories of anderson in ningbo are pretty interesting. Anderson was a highly regarded player. Coming out of alabama whose drafted in the second round parmi draft in the second round of the twenty seventeen draft. Boy he never really played up to what was expected of him based on his career alabama. Yeah he has. I believe six career sacks most of which came in twenty nineteen and most of that came in one game against the philadelphia eagles owed ningbo. He was a seventh round pick and he has ten and a half career sacks but most of those again came in twenty nineteen where he had a really big season as a backup. He started every game. He was active for in twenty twenty and he wasn't able to replicate the success he had as a rotational player. So we'll be able to take that next step. Under patrick ramming the giants coaching staff. Or is he is he just best as a rotational guy. And i think that will be interesting to see. You're definitely going to be interesting to see how things work out with those two players. And i think that the other conversation we now have is who ends up being the other rotational names and faces get onto the field and as we discussed or we've already brought up. Patrick ram really does like to get as many different heads in there as possible based on certain circumstances and situations in the group right now that you see that fits into that conversation. He's zim as opening. Bow or anderson depending on who wins that job or whoever proves themselves the most but separate from to them cam brown. In ellison smith i feel depending on how comfortable they are with ellison smith because of his current development though probably try to find a way to work him onto the field maybe a little bit later on in some of these other players but he definitely has the physical traits to go out there and be competitive and just take up some space and maybe create some pressures. The bear conversation then becomes though does zimmerman as do brown get opportunities to get onto the field often because one oceans jimenez some consider him to be a cut candidate because of his lack of ability to be fully healthy and on the field. He was injured last year. Kenny stay healthy. Can you prove himself during camp can even potentially push himself into these starter conversation. Which seems like something. We've talked about for the last two years since his rookie season we've been waiting for him to ascend and take that next step. Forward camp brown is probably. I think less likely to really carve out a lot of time in this rotation. He is going to make this roster more for his effort that he provides on special teams. We saw a lot of that from cam brown last year. He busts his ads on special teams. Which is allowed him to stick around but we do know. The coaching staff has spoken very highly. On how much. He has gradually improved in the way that he finished last season and the giants are eventual very special teams centric team. That's kind of what happens when you have special teams coaches your head coach. And then you've got to career. Special teams were nader's running your special teams like they pay particular attention to that side of the game and having really good special teams. Chops is a great way to distinguish yourself on the back end of a roster and make the squad which will give you a chance to get on the field on offense or defense. Yeah depending on what. You're what you're not gonna position is so i think that does bode well for cam brown. Yep oceans jimenez. When he is healthy he is a really polished pass. Rusher he is not a particularly explosive guy. He isn't big. He isn't super strong. He isn't hyper athletic. but coming. Out of old dominion he actually had really good pass rushing technique so while he might never be a an explosive. Big sacked number rusher. He's a guy you can. As long as he's healthy feel comfortable having out there like he's going to be disciplined in in run defense. He's going to provide some pressure as a pass rusher and for a rotational guy a backup..

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"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

05:38 min | 6 months ago

"ellison smith" Discussed on Big Blue View

"Hopefully for the new york football giants. But i wanted to do the defensive podcast on the all. Nfc east team. I assembled a week ago for big blue view. So when a dive into where i was thinking i kind of disagree with myself already even two weeks removed from writing this on some of these players because it is tightly contested the nfc east the division sucked last year. I don't believe it's going to suck again. And there's a lot of talented players somewhere injured last season specifically on the offense with guys like tyrants smith and lane johnson. We discussed that on the last podcast but there are also defensive players that it was hard to really kind of be strongly for them specifically at linebacker and edge. Because there's a lot of talented edge guys in this division and we're going to dive into that but i i wanna start with the interior defensive line. Look if we were breaking down last year. I think there's three giants that could be entertained for the three spots here but there are also a couple eagles a couple of washington football team players and the dallas cowboys not as much for the interior guys but they certainly have an edge. That was strongly considered for this list. So let's get into this. Oh my three defensive lineman leonard williams who would be my first selection. And then fletcher cox. Who's getting a little bit longer in the tooth. But he's still a very talented player. And then jonathan allen and i really debated giovane hargrave. I really debated doron. Pain and dexter lawrence and it's it's difficult to really like i said select one of these guys specifically with doron pain. I watched to all twenty two games of the washington football team last season. The two games that he played against new york giants. And i don't know what it was. But he was dominating the interior offense of wine or for new york football giants specifically negates. He was dominating we'll hernandez and he was just stacking and shedding these guys with such power in his hands. Such great lead bridge and just absolutely occupying the gap so. He's a player. That i feel like could just continue to a sandy thirty seven pressures last year in six acts. But he didn't make this list inevitably i think Lawrence is somebody who could definitely remember. I make these teams based on twenty twenty one. So i think excellent can take that step in easily. Be the player who earns a spot on this list. But i ended up going with fletcher cox. Still and fletcher cox. He's been one of the best interior defensive lineman in the league. He had forty three pressures last year. Which was a pretty solid. Drop off from sixty that he had in two thousand nine hundred but he played more snaps in two thousand. Nineteen you rush the passer more twenty nineteen and yet he actually had four more sacks in two thousand twenty than he did in twenty nine thima sacks they can be fluky fletcher cox similar to brandon. Graham who's also on this we're gonna go over incredibly smart players. Always in the right position could do so many different things with them. It's definitely not a player. That if i was an interior offensive lineman i would ever want to block one on one and there's a lot of guys like that within the nfc. East so fletcher cox ended up getting this overdrawn pain over dextra lawrence for the twenty twenty one season and like i said i believe if i went with those other two. I would not be knocking myself because it's a really really tight race for this. Theoretical fake team that i conjured up consisting of all nfc east players. But leonard williams. He was my defacto. One and leonard williams. I mean there's there's a lot you could say about him. Because member. Dave gettleman controversial trade. For leonard williams. When he was entering a contract year he ended up parting ways with a third round pick and a fourth or a fifth was contingent on the play that he was going to have for the franchise and if he was retained which he inevitably was so fourth round. Pick and twenty seven year old now and he had a half a sack in the half season. That he played with the giants. Which was the only half sack that he had that entire season. 'cause greg williams and the jets were kind of mismanaging him but watch leonard williams and patrick graham scheme you can align him anywhere you can put him on. The edge. Prevent one technique. You can put them at the three technique in the type front. They love to run to the weak side he does that solidly as well he. He's he's really good against run but he's goto is just the length that quickness and that ben for a guy who's over three hundred pounds guys just aren't built like leonard and he's twenty-seven-year-old so we ended up getting paid now in sixty two pressures last year eleven and a half sacks sixty two is the highest number that he's ever had. I believe that can only grow if he stays healthy with. Larry ellison smith. I video dental getting healthy. Lorenzo quarterback possibly a healthy oceans in minutes. So i really think. Leonard williams can just continue to just stack great seasons on top of each other while rushing the passer obviously getting those pressures finishing those sacks. That are schemed up. Sometimes monday trump eight and they send three. He's excellent stunt twist game because he can move so well laterally and band as well for a guy of his weight and size but he can also stop the run. So this is a complete defensive lineman and he is my first pick and then the other deep of lime and then made. This was jonathan allen and jonathan allen. Said it could have been drawn. Pain could have been dexter. Lawrence could have driven hargrave. But i want with jonathan allen. I mean he's coming off a fifty pressure season. He had thirty four stops which was actually three lesson. Doron pain and one more than dexter lawrence. But what. I like about. Jon allen is he's he's a bit more versatile than doron pan..

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"ellison smith" Discussed on NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

05:43 min | 1 year ago

"ellison smith" Discussed on NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

"The twenty twenty one reece's senior bowl fighting kurt warner's sitting edge rusher to mobile with ellison smith accepting his invite. How about a couple of big tenors. On the way as well with jonathan cooper of ohio state continuing the lineage of talented pass rushers in former buckeyes shock. Tony penn state. Absolute game wrecking ability. Coming off the edge. Jim is we look back. You're at the entire defensive. Line group gives us a sense of how you evaluated these guys. Yeah a lot of different flavors. You're you're going to be. You're going to be able to find something you like out of this group. We are excited about the two pit. Players held back patrick jones until today. So that's the announcement on the show that patrick jones's come in just a pure edge rusher whereas rashad weaver has a little more versatility but both really good players probably solidly both on day. Two right now depending on which. Nfl team you talk. Do they have might at one guy over the other the boats squarely on day to interest. You see where they can get in the process if they can get themselves into the late. I and there was a couple juniors just to kind of tease this thing out. A couple of juniors in the address grew that we're gonna add here in the next days now that their seasons are over. We assume that they will be coming on our on our twitter site in the next couple of days jones. The guy stands out that is going to be an outstanding player. The next level. Morbid wilson from florida state follows since high school number one recruit coming out of texas. He's been as good as advertised for the seminoles. Six five three. Oh four grace is great. Length does a great job of playing with power but also like athleticism. He is someone who has a chance to be very disruptive player at the next level. Aren't back here on the move. The sticks senior roster reveals show presented by zacks vs with a look at the second level defenders.

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"ellison smith" Discussed on KCRW

KCRW

09:07 min | 1 year ago

"ellison smith" Discussed on KCRW

"It's 807. This is morning edition from NPR News. I'm David Greene in Los Angeles. And I'm Steve Inskeep in Washington. Good morning. What can the Republican convention add to the image of a president who's put himself in constant public view for years? Republicans are giving their best answers to that question. Days after unveiling the replanting of the Rose Garden, the first lady used it as the backdrop for a political speech last night, turning federal property to her husband's personal political use. Melania Trump acknowledged the crisis over shadowing the president's reelection campaign. I know many people are anxious and some feel helpless. I want you to know you're not alone. My husband's administration will not stop fighting. Until there is an effective treatment or vaccine available toe everyone NPR national political correspondent Mara Liasson was listening to Mrs Trump in the various other speakers and is on the line, Mara. Good morning. Good morning, Steve. What stood out for you there about what Melania Trump had to say. What stood out for me was she didn't downplay the situation with the pandemic. She didn't call it an offensive nickname. Like the China virus. She tried to make it clear the president takes it seriously something he doesn't always convey herself, she said. Quote. I don't want to use my time attacking the other side that just divides the country. And she also said, instead of tearing things down, let's reflect on our mistakes. So I think it was a message pretty clearly aimed at suburban women, very key grope group. Many of them have drifted away and Melania Trump was trying to make it easier for them to come back to Trump. These are the people Trump calls Suburban Housewives of America. The other thing that stuck out for me was that she was speaking before a live crowd in the Rose Garden, a place that's not supposed to use for partisan political events, and that raised some ethical and legal concern. And we'll just note that you're speaking before a live dog, which is totally fine with the live time. It's totally fine, eh, So we'll just go on here. I want to note you said the ethical issues she's in the Rose Garden. Mike Pompeo, the secretary of state. Spoke from Jerusalem, he said. It's on my own time. But of course he was on an official trip. How serious are the legal issues? I think this is more of a political problem than a legal problem of the House. Democrats say they will launch an investigation. It's interesting because Pompeo recently signed a memo saying that State Department officials should not speak for or against a partisan candidate. And they shouldn't attend a political convention. But mixing official duties and Partisan politics has become a feature, not a bug of the Trump administration and Trump himself busted through a few more Norm's last night because he conducted two official acts as part of the convention program. There was a video of the president's signing a pardon of a convicted bank robber that pardoning obviously is part of his constitutional powers, and he attended a naturalization ceremony. This at a time when the administration has pretty much stopped Naturalization ceremonies because they don't want to do them on zoom. I want to note that the president ran is an outsider as president, he has continued to pose as if he's not really in charge of the government. That's the tone a lot of the speakers have taken. How is this working? I think they're trying to present us kind of split track message portray him as an outsider. Biden is the establishment but still showcase all the trappings of power. I thought the first two nights of the convention were an exercise in methodically addressing trumps deficits on character, Race Cove it and the economy and I think they painted a pretty effective portrait. It just bore very little resemblance to the Things we see from the president on a daily basis. The tweeting the airing of grievances theater axe on his enemies. So the big question for me is who's watching whose minds are still open to be changed and is the hole that the president has dug for himself too deep. For him to get out of We just NPR's mar a lot of that yet. NPR's Mara Liasson, Thanks so much. Thank you. Right. So we asked some Republican voters what stood out to them during last night's speeches at the convention when Melania Trump brought up the opioid epidemic if you're struggling with addiction There is no shame. In your illness. We seek help you awards that Catherine Qatari says she immediately thought of raising her kids in Brooklyn. I used to walk the streets at Bay Bridge to look for my thighs at night. The kids in the community. I used to fight for them. Then they started dying. And I belong to the Muslim community. A lot of kids, their fathers and mothers wouldn't go to their funerals because of the stigma of them, Od'ing. So when she started talking about the opioid and hit home to General Leech lives in Mobile, Alabama, she appreciated hearing from Daniel Cameron, the attorney general of Kentucky, who attacked Joe Biden for his past comments about race. Mr Vice President. Look at me. I am black. We're not all the same. Sir. I am not in chains. My mind is my own. The fact that he was an African American. It's like icing on the cake. You know, President Trump and this whole administration has recognized people for who they are and what they're doing, and not for identity. Politics take him of Los Angeles connected with both the first lady and the lieutenant governor of Florida when they spoke of their families escaping communism. Kim's parents were from North Korea. My dad was born in Pyongyang. They escaped to the south before the war started and use determine our stories of how horrible old cronies means just destroyed everything. Three Republican voters, they're discussing the moments of the convention that spoke to them. 100 years ago. Today, a constitutional amendment assured women the right to vote. NPR's Melissa block reports on women who were not included. The fight over the 19th amendment was yes about sex, but it was also deeply entwined with race. Southern politicians especially seethed over the prospect of enfranchising millions of African American women. Justus. The 15th amendment had enfranchised black men by law, if not by practice, The debates are explicit. This is Martha Jones, professor at Johns Hopkins University, whose forthcoming book, Vanguard traces the history of African American Women's fight for political power. Racism runs through. The debates over women's suffrage oftentimes through and through case in point in 1919, just before Congress voted on the 19th amendment. South Carolina Senator Ellison Smith fulminated against what he called the alien and Unfit Negro race. He proclaimed it a crime against white civilization to have earlier granted black men. The vote. Extending the vote to the other half of the Negro race, he thundered, would unleash new evils in the face of racist opposition. White suffragists betrayed the black women who had also long fought for the right to vote. Says Elaine Weiss, author of the book The Woman's Hour about the Crusade for women's suffrage. We have to acknowledge that they used as one of their politically expedient arguments. You know, there were more white women who will be voting then black women, so don't worry. White supremacy is not going to be endangered. Listen to this letter from the leading suffragist Carrie Chapman Catt. Trying to convince a North Carolina congressmen to vote Yes. On the 19th amendment. The present condition in the South make sovereigns of some Negro men. While all white women are their subject, these air sad but solemn truths. If you want white supremacy, why not have it constitutionally honorably? The Federal amendment offers the way. Of course, as historian Martha Jones points out whites in the Jim Crow South knew all too well how to keep African Americans from voting. With poll taxes, literacy tests, grandfather clauses, violence and lynching. It is a bargain in 1919 in 1920 support for women's suffrage. In exchange for giving individual states license to continue to keep black Americans from the Poles. They've long kept black men from the poles, and now they're going to keep black women from the poles as well. Indeed, just two months after the 19th amendment was ratified the prominent African American suffragist Mary Church, Terrel wrote a letter filled with foreboding. The colored women of the South will be shamefully treated and will not be allowed to vote..

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08:37 min | 1 year ago

"ellison smith" Discussed on KQED Radio

"It details how Stephen Miller rose to the rank of speech writer and senior adviser to President Trump. By pushing divisive policies like the Muslim ban and family separation. Two hours of forum today, the statewide broadcast a forum on the era 10 all on DVD public radio, from 9 to 11 today. Spare the air alert until Friday, some morning fog partly to mostly sunny skies and still some haze around parts of the Bay Area today. This is morning edition from NPR News. I'm David Greene in Los Angeles. And I'm Steve Inskeep in Washington. Good morning. What can the Republican convention add to the image of a president who's put himself in constant public view for years? Republicans are giving their best answers to that question. Days after unveiling the replanting of the Rose Garden, the first lady used it as the backdrop for a political speech last night, turning federal property to her husband's personal political use. Melania Trump acknowledged the crisis over shadowing the president's reelection campaign. I know many people are anxious and some feel helpless. I want you to know you're not alone. My husband's administration will not stop fighting. Until there is an effective treatment or vaccine available toe everyone NPR national political correspondent Mara Liasson was listening to Mrs Trump in the various other speakers and is on the line, Mara. Good morning. Good morning, Steve. What stood out for you there about what Melania Trump had to say. What stood out for me was she didn't downplay the situation with the pandemic. She didn't call it an offensive nickname. Like the China virus. She tried to make it clear the president takes it seriously something he doesn't always convey herself, she said. Quote. I don't want to use my time attacking the other side that just divides the country. And she also said, instead of tearing things down, let's reflect on our mistakes. So I think it was a message pretty clearly aimed at suburban women, very key grope group. Many of them have drifted away and Melania Trump was trying to make it easier for them to come back to Trump. These are the people Trump calls Suburban Housewives of America. The other thing that stuck out for me was that she was speaking before a live crowd in the Rose Garden, a place that's It's not supposed to use for partisan political events, and that raised some ethical and legal concern. And we'll just note that you're speaking before a live dog, which is totally fine. Live time. It's totally fine, eh, So we'll just go on here. I want to note you said the ethical issues she's in the Rose Garden. Mike Pompeo, the secretary of state, spoke from Jerusalem, he said. It's on my own time. But of course he was on an official trip. How serious are the legal issues? I think this is more of a political problem than a legal problem of the House. Democrats say they will launch an investigation. It's interesting because Pompeo recently signed a memo saying that State Department officials should not speak for or against a partisan candidate. And they shouldn't attend a political convention. But mixing official duties and partisan politics has become a feature, not a bug of the Trump administration. And Trump himself busted through a few more Norm's last night because he conducted two official acts as part of the convention program. There was a video of the president's signing a pardon of a convicted bank robber that pardoning obviously is part of his constitutional powers. And he attended a naturalization ceremony. This at a time when the administration has pretty much stopped Naturalization ceremonies because they don't want to do them on zoom. I want to note that the president ran is an outsider as president, he has continued to poses. If he's not really in charge of the government. That's the tone. A lot of the speakers have taken. How is this working? I think they're trying to present us kind of split track message portray him as an outsider. Biden is the establishment but still showcase all the trappings of power. I thought the first two nights of the convention were an exercise in methodically addressing trumps deficits on character, Race Cove it and the economy and I think they painted a pretty effective portrait itjust for very little resemblance to the Things we see from the president on a daily basis. The tweeting the airing of grievances theater axe on his enemies. So the big question for me is who's watching whose minds are still open to be changed and is the hole that the president has dug for himself too deep for him to get out of We just NPR's Margot. Lot of that yet NPR's Mara Liasson. Thanks so much. Thank you. Right. So we asked some Republican voters what stood out to them during last night's speeches at the convention when Melania Trump brought up the opioid epidemic if you're struggling with addiction There is no shame. In your illness. We seek help you. Katherine. Qatari says she immediately thought of raising her kids in Brooklyn. I used to walk the streets at Bay Bridge to look for my son's at night. The kids in the community. I used to fight for them. Then they started dying. And I belong to the Muslim community. A lot of kids, their fathers and mothers wouldn't go to the funerals because of the stigma of them, okay? So when she started talking about the opioid and head home to general each lives in Mobile, Alabama, she appreciated hearing from Daniel Cameron, the attorney general of Kentucky, who attacked Joe Biden for his past comments about race. Mr Vice President. Look at me. I am black. We're not all the same. Sir. I am not in chains. My mind is my own. The fact that he was an African American. It's like icing on the cake. You know, President Trump and Thiss Whole administration has recognized people for who they are and what they're doing, and not for identity. Politics take him of Los Angeles connected with both the first lady and the lieutenant governor of Florida when they spoke of their families escaping communism. Kim's parents were from North Korea. My dad was born in Pyongyang. They escaped to the south before the war started. And you see terminar stories of how horrible old cronies means just destroyed everything. Three Republican voters, they're discussing the moments of the convention that spoke to them. 100 years ago. Today, a constitutional amendment assured women the right to vote. NPR's Melissa block reports on women who were not included. The fight over the 19th amendment was yes about sex, but it was also deeply entwined with race. Southern politicians especially seethed over the prospect of enfranchising millions of African American women. Justus. The 15th amendment had enfranchised black man by law, if not by practice, the debates are explicit. This is Martha Jones, professor at Johns Hopkins University, whose forthcoming book, Vanguard traces the history of African American Women's fight for political power. Racism runs through. The debates over women's suffrage oftentimes through and through case in point in 1919, just before Congress voted on the 19th amendment. South Carolina Senator Ellison Smith fulminated against what he called the alien and Unfit Negro race. He proclaimed it a crime against white civilization to have earlier granted black men. The vote. Extending the vote to the other half of the Negro race, he thundered, would unleash new evils in the face of racist opposition. White suffragists betrayed the black women who had also long fought for the right to vote. Says Elaine Weiss, author of the book The Woman's Hour about the Crusade for women's suffrage. We have to acknowledge that they used as one of their politically expedient arguments. You know, there were more white women who will be voting then black women, so don't worry. White supremacy is not going to be endangered. Listen to this letter from the leading suffragist Carrie Chapman Catt. Trying to convince a North Carolina congressmen to vote Yes. On the 19th amendment. The present condition in the South make sovereigns of some Negro men. While all white women are their subject, these air sad but solemn truths. If you want white supremacy, why not have it constitutionally honorably? The Federal amendment offers the way..

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"ellison smith" Discussed on KCRW

KCRW

08:12 min | 1 year ago

"ellison smith" Discussed on KCRW

"Political correspondent Mara Liasson was listening to Mrs Trump in the various other speakers and is on the line, Mara. Good morning. Good morning, Steve. What stood out for you there about what Melania Trump had to say. What stood out for me was she didn't downplay the situation with the pandemic. She didn't call it an offensive nickname. Like the China virus. She tried to make it clear the president takes it seriously something he doesn't always convey herself, she said. Quote. I don't want to use my time attacking the other side that just divides the country. And she also said, instead of tearing things down, let's reflect on our mistakes. So I think it was a message pretty clearly aimed at suburban women, very key grope group. Many of them have drifted away and Melania Trump was trying to make it easier for them to come back to Trump. These are the people Trump calls Suburban Housewives of America. The other thing that stuck out for me was that she was speaking before a live crowd in the Rose Garden, a place that's not supposed to be used for partisan political events. And that raised some ethical and legal concern. And we'll just note that you're speaking before a live dog, which is totally fine with the live time. It's totally fine, eh, So we'll just go on here. I want to note you said the ethical issues she's in the Rose Garden. Mike Pompeo, the secretary of state. Spoke from Jerusalem, he said. It's on my own time. But of course he was on an official trip. How serious are the legal issues? I think this is more of a political problem than a legal problem of the House. Democrats say they will launch an investigation. It's interesting because Pompeo recently signed a memo saying the State Department officials should not speak for or against a partisan candidate. And they shouldn't attend a political convention. But mixing official duties and Partisan politics has become a feature, not a bug of the Trump administration and Trump himself busted through a few more Norm's last night because he conducted two official acts as part of the convention program. There was a video of the president's signing a pardon of a convicted bank robber that pardoning obviously is part of his constitutional powers, and he attended a naturalization ceremony. This at a time when the administration has pretty much stopped Naturalization ceremonies because they don't want to do them on zoom. I want to note that the president ran is an outsider as president, he has continued to poses. If he's not really in charge of the government. That's the tone. A lot of the speakers have taken. How is this working? I think they're trying to present us kind of split track message portray him as an outsider. Biden is the establishment but still showcase all the trappings of power. I thought the first two nights of the convention were an exercise in methodically addressing trumps deficits on character, Race Cove it and the economy and I think they painted a pretty effective portrait. It just bore very little resemblance to the Things we see from the president on a daily basis. The tweeting the airing of grievances theater axe on his enemies. So the big question for me is who's watching whose minds are still open to be changed and is the hole that the president has dug for himself too deep. For him to get out of We just NPR's mar a lot of that yet. NPR's Mara Liasson, Thanks so much. Thank you. Right. So we asked some Republican voters what stood out to them during last night's speeches at the convention when Melania Trump brought up the opioid epidemic if you're struggling with addiction There is no shame. In your illness. We seek help. You're worse than Catherine Qatari says she immediately thought of raising her kids in Brooklyn. I used to walk the streets at Bay Bridge to look for my son's at night. The kids in the community. I used to fight for them. Then they started dying. And I belong to the Muslim community. A lot of kids, their fathers and mothers wouldn't go to their funerals because of the stigma of them owe Tain So when she started talking about the opioid and hit home to General Leech lives in Mobile, Alabama, she appreciated hearing from Daniel Cameron, the attorney general of Kentucky, who attacked Joe Biden for his past comments about race. Mr Vice President. Look at me. I am black. We're not all the same. Sir. I am not in chains. My mind is my own. The fact that he was an African American. It's like icing on the cake. You know, President Trump and this whole administration has recognized people for who they are and what they're doing, and not for identity. Politics take him of Los Angeles connected with both the first lady and the lieutenant governor of Florida when they spoke of their families escaping communism. Kim's parents were from North Korea. My dad was born in Pyongyang. They escaped to the south before the war started. And you see terminar stories of how horrible old cronies means just destroyed everything. Three Republican voters, they're discussing the moments of the convention that spoke to them. 100 years ago. Today, a constitutional amendment assured women the right to vote. NPR's Melissa block reports on women who were not included. The fight over the 19th amendment was yes about sex, but it was also deeply entwined with race. Southern politicians especially seethed over the prospect of enfranchising millions of African American women. Justus. The 15th amendment had enfranchised black men by law, if not by practice, The debates are explicit. This is Martha Jones, professor at Johns Hopkins University, whose forthcoming book, Vanguard traces the history of African American Women's fight for political power. Racism runs through. The debates over women's suffrage oftentimes through and through case in point in 1919, just before Congress voted on the 19th amendment. South Carolina Senator Ellison Smith fulminated against what he called the alien and Unfit Negro race. He proclaimed it a crime against white civilization to have earlier granted black men. The vote. Extending the vote to the other half of the Negro race, he thundered, would unleash new evils in the face of racist opposition. White suffragists betrayed the black women who had also long fought for the right to vote. Says Elaine Weiss, author of the book The Woman's Hour about the Crusade for women's suffrage. We have to acknowledge that they used as one of their politically expedient arguments. You know, there are more white women who will be voting then black women, so don't worry. White supremacy is not going to be endangered. Listen to this letter from the leading suffragist Carrie Chapman Catt. Trying to convince a North Carolina congressmen to vote Yes. On the 19th amendment. The present condition in the South make sovereigns of some Negro men. While all white women are their subject, these air sad but solemn truths. If you want white supremacy, why not have it constitutionally honorably? The Federal amendment offers the way. Of course, as historian Martha Jones points out whites in the Jim Crow South knew all too well how to keep African Americans from voting. With poll taxes, literacy tests, grandfather clauses, violence and lynching. It is a bargain in 1919 in 1920 support for women's suffrage. In exchange for giving individual states license to continue to keep black Americans from the Poles. They've long kept black men from the poles, and now they're going to keep black women from the poles as well. Indeed, just two months after the 19th amendment was ratified the prominent African American suffragist Mary Church, Terrel wrote a letter filled with foreboding. The colored women of the South will be shamefully treated and will not be allowed to vote..

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"ellison smith" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

08:15 min | 1 year ago

"ellison smith" Discussed on KQED Radio

"It. Details how long Stephen Miller rose to the rank of speech writer and senior adviser to President Trump by pushing divisive policies like the Muslim ban, and I'm Steve Inskeep in Washington. Good morning. What can the Republican convention add to the image of a president who's put himself in constant public view for years? Republicans are giving their best answers to that question. Days after unveiling the replanting of the Rose Garden, the first lady used it as the backdrop for a political speech last night, turning federal property to her husband's personal political use. Melania Trump acknowledged the crisis over shadowing the president's reelection campaign. I know many people are anxious and some feel helpless. I want you to know you're not alone. My husband's administration will not stop fighting. Until there is an effective treatment or vaccine available toe everyone NPR national political correspondent Mara Liasson was listening to Mrs Trump in the various other speakers and is on the line, Mara. Good morning. Good morning, Steve. What stood out for you there about what Melania Trump had to say. What stood out for me was she didn't downplay the situation with the pandemic. She didn't call it an offensive nickname. Like the China virus. She tried to make it clear the president takes it seriously something he doesn't always convey herself, she said. Quote. I don't want to use my time attacking the other side that just divides the country. And she also said, instead of tearing things down, let's reflect on our mistakes. So I think it was a message pretty clearly aimed at suburban women, very key grope group. Many of them have drifted away and Melania Trump was trying to make it easier for them to come back to Trump. These are the people Trump calls Suburban Housewives of America. The other thing that stuck out for me was that she was speaking before a live crowd in the Rose Garden, a place that's It's not supposed to use for partisan political events, and that raised some ethical and legal concern. And we'll just note that you're speaking before a live dog, which is totally fine. Live time. It's totally fine, eh, So we'll just go on here. I want to note you said the ethical issues she's in the Rose Garden. Mike Pompeo, the secretary of state, spoke from Jerusalem, he said. It's on my own time. But of course he was on an official trip. How serious are the legal issues? I think this is more of a political problem than a legal problem of the House. Democrats say they will launch an investigation. It's interesting because Pompeo recently signed a memo saying that State Department officials should not speak for or against a partisan candidate. And they shouldn't attend a political convention. But mixing official duties and Partisan politics has become a feature, not a bug of the Trump administration and Trump himself busted through a few more Norm's last night because he conducted two official acts as part of the convention program. There was a video of the president's signing a pardon of a convicted bank robber that pardoning obviously is part of his constitutional powers. And he attended a naturalization ceremony. This at a time when the administration has pretty much stopped Naturalization ceremonies because they don't want to do them on zoom. I want to note that the president ran is an outsider as president, he has continued to pose as if he's not really in charge of the government. That's the tone a lot of the speakers have taken. How is this working? I think they're trying to present us kind of split track message portray him as an outsider. Biden is the establishment but still showcase all the trappings of power. I thought the first two nights of the convention were an exercise in methodically addressing trumps deficits on character, Race Cove it and the economy and I think they painted a pretty effective portrait itjust for very little resemblance to the things we see from the president on a daily basis, the tweeting the airing of grievances theater axe on his enemies. So the big question for me is who's watching whose minds are still open to be changed and is the hole that the president has done for himself too deep for him to get out of We just NPR's mar a lot of that yet NPR's Mara Liasson, Thanks so much. Thank you. Right. So we asked some Republican voters what stood out to them during last night's speeches at the convention when Melania Trump brought up the opioid epidemic. If you're struggling with addiction, there is no shame. In your illness. Police seek help your words. Catherine Qatari says she immediately thought of raising her kids in Brooklyn. I usedto work Mistreated Bay Bridge to look for my son's at night. The kids in the community. I used to fight for them. Then they started dying. And I belong to the Muslim community. A lot of kids, their fathers and mothers wouldn't go to the funerals because of the stigma of them, Od'ing. So when she started talking about the opioid and head home to general each lives in Mobile, Alabama, she appreciated hearing from Daniel Cameron, the attorney general of Kentucky, who attacked Joe Biden for his past comments about race. Mr Vice President. Look at me. I am black. We're not all the same. Sir. I am not in chains. My mind is my own fact that he was an African American. It's like icing on the cake. You know, President Trump and this whole administration has recognized people for who they are and what they're doing, and not for identity. Politics take him of Los Angeles connected with both the first lady and the lieutenant governor of Florida when they spoke of their families escaping communism. Kim's parents were from North Korea. My dad was born in Pyongyang. They escaped to the south before the war started, and you determine our stories of how horrible old cronies means just destroyed everything. Three Republican voters, they're discussing the moments of the convention that spoke to them. 100 years ago. Today, a constitutional amendment assured women the right to vote. NPR's Melissa Block reports on women who were not included The fight over the 19th amendment was yes about sex, but it was also deeply entwined with race. Southern politicians especially seethed over the prospect of enfranchising millions of African American women. Justus. The 15th amendment had enfranchised black man by law, if not by practice, the debates are explicit. This is Martha Jones, professor at Johns Hopkins University, whose forthcoming book, Vanguard traces the history of African American Women's fight for political power. Racism runs through the debates over women's suffrage, oftentimes through and through case in point in 1919, just before Congress voted on the 19th amendment. South Carolina Senator Ellison Smith fulminated against what he called the alien an unfit Negro race. He proclaimed it a crime against white civilization to have earlier granted black men. The vote. Extending the vote to the other half of the Negro race, he thundered, would unleash new evils in the face of racist opposition. White suffragists betrayed the black women who had also long fought for the right to vote. Says Elaine Weiss, author of the book The Woman's Hour about the Crusade for women's suffrage. We have to acknowledge that they used as one of their politically expedient arguments. You know, there were more white women who will be voting then black women, so don't worry. White supremacy is not going to be endangered. Listen to this letter from the leading suffragist Carrie Chapman Catt. Trying to convince a North Carolina congressmen to vote Yes. On the 19th amendment. The present condition in the South make sovereigns of some Negro men. While all white women are their subject, these air sad but solemn truths. If you want white supremacy, why not have it constitutionally honorably? The Federal amendment offers the way..

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"ellison smith" Discussed on Thunder Radio

Thunder Radio

01:35 min | 2 years ago

"ellison smith" Discussed on Thunder Radio

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