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All Sports News Episode Ft. WNBA, NFL, and more!

IDKCast

33:59 min | 3 months ago

All Sports News Episode Ft. WNBA, NFL, and more!

"In turn off every sense this whole fan came on. Things have changed a lot of thirty k clearly wanting to own a gun in the NBA ended. W eight for the earn Kim. A manager Boy Shandra from the I D K podcast. Let me tell you something if you hear this from spotify apple music or any other podcast form. It's because of this awesome APP called anchor. If you haven't heard of anchor is the easiest way to make a podcast okay. It's free the awesome creation tools. That allow me to record it in my podcast on my phone on my computer wherever I met and inker allows me to distribute my podcast so that you're hearing everywhere they take care of all the RSS Things for me. So I don't have to go through all of it. Also I hope you get sponsorships effect this air right now sponsored by them. You don't even have to have a listening ship just to get a sponsor is everything you need in a podcast in one place. Download the free anger or go to anchor dot f. m. that's anchor dot. Fm to get started on the table. The humor you guys McCaffrey. He is learning is our starting running back. Carolina Panthers Become Highs. Pay running back in the current and bill and possibly guys. Internet's sixty four million dollar contract and that sounds sweet a like I said Peyton Mann but he is and he is worth a whole. He's actually were the first. Rb's in recent years to become a viable candidate for MVP. Leget in the gun. Three he's nine. Nine is prime. So if he sprinted by this and just twenty three hopefully fingers crossed no injuries. He could be doing a lot more for us and the coming years as long as injuries fingers crossed would and of course. Carolina treats him right guys had no injuries so far. So we're going to be playing that he's going to be able to come back next year and hopefully heating though fluke series but what he means he's GonNa give us the business that we pay for US sixty four dollars guys moving on we got dad brisk and Ezekiel Elliott. Now if you guys didn't know I'm GonNa tell you real quick barely deck head e in. Deir which he alleges was less than ten people so it was totally legal in it. Nothing properly in your area Hanna. Party I believe a couple of weeks back with US UP FRIENDS BECAUSE OF CONTRACT EXTENSION. Not Quite sure on deck. Well reason maybe had the dinner you know. Reasons are not being told but the guys had dinner. He had his party. In a course on social media people were condemning both Dak Prescott and easy kio because of what they did because right now are in the Book Pandemic Year Biden people to your home that you don't know if they have the virus in possibly they don't even know virus if they're just simply a carrier in the are not showing symptoms sperry serious viability. Extreme health recently both took. But you got to be on the seer. These guys are very young dumb in the very rich Okay Salim. You don't care. Debuted showed a lot of indifferent line until Ghana. The social media that was going on about how important was for tat. Not done that at all. so the cowboys decided to respond by giving you know. Zeke Elliott Dan Prescott acquitting spangled in a stern talking to you know. They made sure that they keep on the president. You know the cowboys did something you know during a pandemic these guys doing late that but like I say these guys are very rich very young. And here's another thing. I really believe that a lot of celebrities are in the honest belief that they are immune to the virus because we have one right into Sunday. State of fortunately. I'm like this is so true because if you guys remember when the pandemic with really starting to kick off somehow you know we're in the middle of a nation play shortage. Nobody can get the test. Everybody needs a test test test but rudy go beer. Donald Mitchell entire Utah Jazz Tested with the quickness the swiftness and. I'm just so confused and a lot of people. Were actually confused you know. How are you able to get this test? And nobody else's seeming to be able to find his has been you guys magically find tests for entire. Nba team in pretty much the rest of the NBA gets tested with the swiftness quickness. About it and nobody is able to understand how you know. There is a nationwide shortage going on. Nobody has enough test to test with a corona virus and you guys are getting the tests as if there is a nationwide surplus and the League import on Social Media Out. People were saying that this was not fair. This isn't right. These guys take tests away from people actually needed and don't have the money necessarily to pay for the treatment that goes on for Corona virus essentially stealing his test. How ever if you think they go bear in Mitchell and everybody else in the NBA did not get treated with the experimental medicine to treat the Koran virus? If for no other reason that they're famous if for no other reason than they have pointy end they can pay for those kinds of things. I mean honestly if you really believe that. That didn't happen. You stupid boy. That's exactly what happened in so like I said I'm not surprised by the behavior. People have shown that they're very young very immature. Unfortunately they are very very rich so there is that level of entitlement that they allow celebrities showing And that they have you know basically showing their butts society and say like I'm rich I can afford to get sick and I can afford not to be sick so it doesn't really matter to me. That's the attitude the behave and unfortunately you know the cowboys Rideau care. Nothing about this is just like a publicity stunt at his finest trying to show that people think that they're really going to do anything but I lost all respect for Dallas his front office after the whole Sunday Zeke did last year basically bullying the Front Office for the money that he wanted. And you know that was gone with no. We're not GONNA do we're GONNA do. We're not GONNA do it. Then they turn around and do it anyway. So I'm not surprised by their behavior and Anna Rubino care because at the end of the day they're definitely not putting any money in my pocket continuing on with Dak Prescott because he has a couple of things going on with him. The contractual saga continues guys. I thought I would have been over at the franchise. Hey but it actually does continue so weird out on the street is that deck is still attempting to work that Zeke angle where basically trying to bully the Dallas cowboys into giving him what he wants however this may not work out for him and I'm going to get into that and a little bit so right now. The word is a deck saying that he's not getting enough. Money is the contracts that the cowboys is offering him because it is not enough money to maintain his family's current lifestyle. And honestly I think the deal is about light. Twenty four million. A year he was my family will not be able to survive twenty four million dollars a year and my oh boy lake Far Be from you to have less than two houses. Maybe you only had to have gone out but boy like you know far be from you to be able to have that but then again even on even though on paper a lot of these players are rich guys remember from last episode. We were talking about allegedly leak of two thirds of the NBA is about Brooklyn's a doornail so on paper. These people may be very rich but they're actually very very broke and I would not be surprised at desk. Prescott is suffering from some or financial management. So of course maybe he needs more than twenty million dollars a year because he just doesn't know how to manage money so again dake is trying to work that seek angle where he's basically trying to bully them angling for Bo less years. That account was trying to give him in a portable money. This is a very typical Angle for those athletes especially people in aid and to goalie cowboys name on more years and Kinda more money. What kind of not more money? Not a reasonable amount of money. Money is answer for their ass in seventeen year contract for about a hundred and ten million I wouldn't send my life in ten million dollars Prescott but he is holding true to. He's trying to work that Zeke angle where he's basically trying to bully the Dallas cowboys. How ever died is not gonNA work out for him in in my. I'm GonNa you know you can tell us that me on this. I'm saying right now is not gonNA work out for Prescott and he's GonNa end up compromising a lot more than he thinks he's going to. Because of the fact that he had that exclusive franchise take place on his person hood so the current tags about like thirty three million dollars so he really can't do anything about it and he really can't threaten to go anywhere or do anything about it other than possibly Eli. What like set up a portion of the year The whole year. Because it was a franchise tag. You can't go anywhere you can't work for anybody else. Especially in exclusive franchise dig only thing he can possibly threaten to do is sit out. So that's not really gonNA work out for him if he does try too hard to get it. Not sign the franchise. Tag Deal As going to work out for him because he governor saying his family became live on. Twenty million dollars will now. You're going to be living at the price of zero thousand zero sense. If you don't sign the so what I think will end up being. The deal is about four to five year. Deal at about sixty to seventy meals so it's pretty average. Qb deal does give him the latitude that he's looking for because he was looking for like three feet of. I remember quite going so the very slim chance that he's actually a lot of people his age to do that. You know to something else were genetically. It's not gonNA work out for him Just because by number one. That's the tendency of these guys the pretending but they don't and then the other thing. Is that the cowboys. Really have him by the haunches arena. Let it go so they'll pretty much do anything that he is. I hear that there's a little bit of compromise going on within the Prescott camp within Kelleway's Kanthi are terminent quote Unquote Stanford but yellow. Mari feel about the cowboys they will give in at the end of the day. So it's a really a question of how much they willing to give up in order to keep Dak Prescott. Is he worth it absolutely? But they think that this guy has a viable future for him. So we're GONNA CHECK OUT WE'RE GONNA definitely see 'cause that's not ongoing story next up on the docket we had the XFL. This guy's actually is pretty pretty depressing because the except fo has suspended all operations They are not planning on coming back in twenty twenty one and they're not coming back in twenty twenty do their back. They're probably not gonNA come back. On top of suspending operations. They have filed for bankruptcy and the leaving thousands of workers in the dirt. Like lots of people are now jobless. They're trying to find a job in the middle of pandemic you know. God bless it couldn't be me especially with the success that the XFL has really did not expect them to do something like this but here we are guys so like I said I'm not GONNA lie. Definitely domestic coming ahead. A tremendous tremendous immodesty says even now you know they still have a lot of players being drafted or being contracted with in the NFL different people. I believe. Woodleigh Store Norton Jessica side. So that's pretty interesting that they had to have done this if I had to guess as to why a have had to do this is probably because again of the pandemic of course it takes a lot of money to start teams and when you're not able to do the one thing that teams are able to do with the primary way of getting money which is putting seats. You know putting butts in seats you know you're of course going to end up spending more money keeping everybody on your team. Then you know find me for bankruptcy and suspending operations however I did not know that they owed so much money. We're actually going to get into that. So these guys somewhere between ten to fifty million dollars and these guys have like five thousand plus five thousand plus listed credit creditors on their check. Thirteen and if you got nowhere to Credit Areas. It's somebody basically long money like on the up and up to make the xfl thing so these they have like five thousand plus people that they owed money to ranging anywhere from ten to fifty million dollars in liabilities. And I'm telling you like the amount of people on Air Light Bull shock you. There are some coaches that loan money to meet the xfl thing the Ohio the University of Chicago. Some money. They all a lot of people a lot of a badge in Owen. Five thousand plus people money like Oh man. I have not even know what I would do. But I'm looking at the papers. Were the chapter thirteen. It really does tell you like how expensive is to keep a team is started team. Keep them it's crazy to find out that the WWE does own. Some percentages of stock index fell so. That was pretty interesting. I knew of course you know big Hanan own did. I didn't know that he put. Wwe stock in it. Not that surprising because he did the last time around. If you guys didn't know worse you know he put a lot of the moves and stuff like that and they did put a lot of the business in there as well so At the moral of the story is if you are a wrestling fame and you have cable and you pay per view wrestling. I would definitely expect to be paying a lot more for paper view because they can and had a lot of this payoff. Approximately fifty million dollars worth so I would hold off our you or maybe you know. Help your employees out. 'cause he's not going to be paying off with his personal assets. I can definitely promise you that last up on the targets we have some stuff going on in the NBA. Of course guys. They had that horse challenge. I didn't see it. Of course I don't have cable so I do try to. I try to catch stuff ankles. Aung highlights would be quickly kicked. Cpi threes but unsurprisingly. Pools lost chauncey. Billups showed up for young so that was interesting. Saw some also we have a little bitter remember. You know some rumors. Having that the Lakers front office believes that they have Anthony Davis in the bag for next year. Now if you guys all remember. Anthony Davis side of pre interest in deal. Like a sign of no faith. We will allude to year deal of. It's actually two year deal. They lose a sign of no faith. So they say that from what? They're hearing from the Davis. Can he wants to be with them and he sees himself being a very solid Bible future with them. We of course will be safe future. talking about you know life after. Lebron retires which is of course allegedly in the nineteen distant future. We just had the wrong talking about how hard it is. Simple his age to take this break during the MBA year. And all this stuff like that. I'm Mike Yeah just basically spelling on his retirement. It's coming down the pipeline in the not too distant future however they were trying to work out a deal similar something like Colli head before the shutdown of the N. b. a. Now that the NBA has been shut down. They're not quite sure what they're going to be doing towards like getting him down contractually in more of a half bathing deal so they're expecting him to write out that last year of twenty eight million dollars so we're going to see what's going on the ad really believe that he has a future with them. I think that he does. I think that for the most part they have shown him something what life is like with abroad. What is going to do after Lebron leaves is a totally different thing and I don't necessarily think that he may stay with the Lakers. But he's definitely going to go back to New Orleans. The woman's fans apparently just the front office did him so dirty university at least a taste in people's mouths in front office do people dirty so we also have Rodney Hood and the Portland Trail. Blazers out. Riding Hood is expected to make his return to the DRO basis contractually. If you guys didn't know Rodney Hood into the various series Achilles injury during about say about a little bit past. Midway of the season he was out for the year for the Achilles injury. Of course. There's no real timetable. Always expected to return kind of like a key thing. There's no real time able on that. Dip KINDA shooting for next year but now with the whole shutdown thing not quite sure what that is going to look like because of Boise's not gonna be able to be doing the kind of re add that they are looking forward to because you know pay all the gym's closed but contractually speaking. He is expected to return to them. On Rodney Hood is actually become a franchise player like Couple of years before career. We weren't quite sure where he's going to end up but he's actually becoming a real viable franchise player for the show. I really think that he's GonNa sweet spot here He really loves working with Damien really was working with CJ Those working with Terry starts so I think this is a pretty foregone. Conclusion Myself I do enjoy seeing hood that defense and some offense that is really needed a really blends well. You can see the chemistry on the corporate twin hood and mccollum Lillard and Carmelo Anthony No quite word on whether or not Anthony is going to be returning for another season So we don't know where that's going to look like so if I do hear anything of course you guys are going to be the first people to do it on Thursday. So look forward to it Next up we got the whole thing with Ken. Karl Anthony towns like if you guys did note it of course is a real tragedy is mother did pass away. He's a couple weeks ago. He put it up on his instagram. That mother was a coma from the virus. And you know He. She was on a respirator. Of course if you guys don't know medically wouldn't you on a respirator? It is pretty much it like. You're you're done when it happens on especially with this virus does your ability to breathe Israeli. Yom demob diminished substantially so. His Mother did pass away of course. If you are on our twitter we did. Of course say you know? Our thoughts and prayers are going to be with him deafeningly Deal WITH MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS. Again are definitely going to be with him. And my condolences for losing your mother. That is terrible terrible tragedy. I've actually been seen quite a few people Putting a post talking about losing husbands losing friends losing SIBLINGS TO THE CORNER VIRUS. And for everybody out there. I just want to say you know why ause appraisals. We've you truly Mike in Donor. My condolences are sued. A liar topic now will not too light for the prison. That's involved but it's a minor topic. She got all his finally fired their GM finally finally finally. I don't know maybe it was the pandemic that allow ownership to really spend some time and reflect on how things were going. Maybe like social distancing Introspects from a distance. Or maybe he was looking at those Clips of ESPN's last. Dan's reminded the owner of those times when Chicago was actually viable candidate to win anything. I'm not quite sure what happened to the man maybe Conan Jesus moment ages came in dreams on day and your son. Chicago boola terrible because of the GM these terrible fire in. I'm not quite sure why but something happened. And it was fantastic because ownership is officially five g. m. They knocked down the other guy who was part of the whole makes of terrible things he's been knocked down to senior adviser which is basically you barely get to keep your job so they are actually not to tell as to what happened of course because this is like really just starting out. The developing store are not quite sure what's going on what was saying started it. Would you know Yano keep off before one learn on what really really happened? So details aren't out yet but I'm really scrubbing a really keeping us down to the street dance of gravel down seen little bitty pebbles asphalt. Just find out what's going on hand hurt too much. Everybody's just talking about how they're looking for a new one. There's three new candidates to them are white one of them's blank hoping they get somebody of color somebody who actually has some serious like talent as GM We somebody who has been in the position before but not somebody who didn't do good at the physician so other than that. Nothing is the same and is if more than one person is same exact same thing. There has to be some level of truth to what is being said Speaking of that Rondo say weights Butler said it and more than likely lots of other plays have been saying it. Because Zach Levine. Just came out and said I can't wait to work with the new management and just like oh well like double tell you really feel with us home against how you feel lows of other people have probably been saying this low on just like the media wasn't necessarily invited to the discussion about the GM lots of fans have been saying it for forever so this is nothing new. The one of the issues as Chicago gaining four deals and poor choices in the draft is Management leadership thoughts. So we're GONNA see. Who ARE THEY GONNA pick? We don't know it really is anybody's guess. Is Anybody Game? Not Quite sure. Hopefully pick somebody good over the nitpicks by has talent and eye for talent development. Because it's not just enough to get talent. It's about the being able to develop the talent to something prolific something special something. Mace the docket Bhagat. Wnba Basically there's GonNa be a WNBA dynasty. That's that's not that's it. That's my prediction bro. THE WHY. Mrs Katina Charles in three-team trade between the Dallas swings and New York Liberty so either New York liberty are the dumbest people are meant not actually met you know but obviously they have the same. I don't know there's something in the water in New York in it just makes people bad. Gm's and he just let go of talent and they don't know how to get talent and they just don't know what they're doing something in the water because the Knicks. The exact same problem. I don't know if that's the issue. I don't buy them but this is the dumbest move that liberty has ever made or this is the smartest move liberty has ever been so this could down into it. There is a three team trade that came down yesterday. Between of course mystics wings liberty so though liberty gave up Tina Charles but they got back draft picks in this draft. Pick nine twelve and fifteen. I forgot who the wing got I think the Wayne's got a couple of picks and somebody else from the mistakes and then of course had Tina Charles the leading score for New York Liberty. That's a dynasty is Charles ellena Don. That sounds like Pavic to be. I just though to just those two koby sharing that just sounds like having to me and you have like a beat. Three to me lessons dynasty really big Ben sounds like they're trying to run a bag like they're reading it all the way back. When they saw the wings were doing. They WANNA go. Wow okay lots of trees. Lots of traits okay. So you didn't like the way that you law slashing how were you like us now? Berle so but the other thing is the need the near glittery. Bro. What are they GONNA do? We're not quite sure. So of course the presumed number one pay Sabrina. Great talent. I think she's probably the greatest day will do it for the WNBA. But the other problem is they don't have any like real leadership now the liberty It's GonNa help her make team. I guess not lake what it would have been. Zion was drafted by the Knicks. There would have been some level of leadership and even like with the Pelicans. One of the problems of the PELICANS. They don't really have like any leadership for this young team and not get it twisted okay. They do an actually pretty good. I mean they ended up a seat had a lot of course but they they were able to actually do something very serious with the team. So there's that I'm so basically it looking like they're just trying to rebuild and whenever somebody is like a franchise player it's bill so are the odds in for the New York. Pelicans kind of being casino. They were pretty keen on getting back. Those peixe those particular picture they had already traded out. If they don't rebuild should be interesting because of course Sabrina on askew whoever they're going to give for nine twelve and fifteen but there's no leadership now there's no leadership that actually cares like a winning so we're GONNA we're GonNa see what happens over there in New York. Dallas actually gets a chance to sign some draft people with a heading outs of crappy contracts. So we are. GonNa see what is going to happen. Era some huge moves going on down things that now playoff competitors of course will miss probably running back. So we're going to see is that is actually going to be influenced episode. Retaken a break on the cover story because he has something special me a big surprise for that so make sure you see tune or next episode. Guys don't know now you. We have a youtube. Were you can watch our latest and greatest as well as your favorite classics are GonNa be available on Youtube. Plus doing special episodes just YouTube channel. Make sure you go to channel. 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Lazio Leap Above Inter

ESPN FC

35:51 min | 6 months ago

Lazio Leap Above Inter

"Welcome in today's edition of ESPN AFC. Thomas Craig Burley and shocker. His mom call Thi. We'll be with US shortly. Lots to talk about today but Spain Germany and Italy will start low in England one of the match. It was an Aston Villa and spurs so much action forty one shots in total angles very much grabbing all the headlines. The villa defender. He'd give away a penalty score a go and be his lay error though that would see song run on an score the winner in the ninety. Second Minute hang then took to twitter after the game to tweet saying Brown with my first premium. Go but feeling absolutely gutted with the result I know more than anyone mistake. Cost us what we talk about the game. Let's just talk about that professional level where you make a mistake like that obviously you your high profile was FA Cup semifinal. Bypass the David Beckham. Yeah when I was seeing Jack Greeley talk into him as he was walking off the page. I was thinking thousand me. I wouldn't want anyone anywhere. Niimi too difficult one because what we have here as a player who made two mistakes at least probably made more but he made to glittering and it was the penalty and the mistake we tried to control and there's no time left in the game to combat in schools because your team but in the league. Will you make mistakes? You know you general have time to make amends for that and the next game deafened says when you do in a cup semifinal guy is gone as you wrote. You're not going to Wembley but it's tough and he'll over la I mean we all over I mean because you play another another league in I would be too interested scoring goals and half sister mistakes. Mistakes mistakes are costing Aston Villa. Because they're good say to watch like Norris quite a good site to watch but making too many mistakes and basic areas are probably that's moments. I'm going to cost them. Their the status primarily occupational hazard goalkeeper. You'RE GONNA make mistakes zoo. How did you get over it? How did you deal with them? We just learned to. Kinda take these things on the Chin accent that it's GonNa Happen. It's never a good time for mistakes to happen nor really ever is i. You just accept it as all those kind of occupational hazards correctly. Said you have to pick yourself up. Doesn't sell off and get on with it. Most people do some people struggled with it. I see the reason why why this is gonna how angles in any way. It is disappointing when it does happen but again you look into these things on the Chin if you WANNA spend a long time in the game you know. They're going to keep coming. I'll tell you what though we saw a lot of football this weekend overseas some very important games but if I could watch one again probably this this brilliant yes. Last week spoils again didn't have the possess that opponents but the what was the the created a lot more or less week the ball retention was better a lot better and villa as I say that Koerbel final. They're going to have to balance out by the fact that some reasonable full but the head and back to the championship at the moment and said I'm so it's a tough balance and when when you're trying to get results continue to try and evolve and play this kind of open expansive football. I retract into Michelle. And just try and dig. A few results. I thought up until scored the good value for for Jewish again pulling all the strings. Incredible talent he continues to be avalon. Chances and and this is the challenge when you're a team like Aston Villa when you don't be bought a winner struggled for confidence. You've got to take those chances and too often villa have gilt-edged opportunities that Gore. Begging on then you turn it on wood. Hobbs instead of being tuneup of all of Rhode Scores and incredible goal. And then you concede two goals in the injury-time the end of the first half injury-time at the end of the game which ultimately cost you a point. If not I will be. I mean Jat Greeley we think is going to be in south next England squad but even at that I would be. I would be shocked. If he's not going to the euros with England there are other contenders out there. That are other talented players. It's not You know the forward thought that the field from midfield front is not a possession. Angle shot of talented however people talk about Madison at Leicester Percents. You Elliott Dan. I grill issues the better of the two. Because he's got more about your own fewer than James Madison Madison can Pekka Poss- Greeley's can pay from fifty sixty yards from deep. He can play that little ball into fine without it. Can Taco is very good in the bullet hole play-off because he's strong. I think I will probably. I'll be shocked if doesn't go with England and I'll be showcase if a big club united or someone don't try and get them in the summer always surprise. I'm sorry from Jack. Greenish for Dean. Smith had to say after the game talking about that penalty that was awarded where again sat in a sterile environment. Looking at something that everybody in the stadium of forty two thousand people are staff? I don't think it's a penalty including the player who went down if it takes two minutes. That's not obvious for me. It's faster call they overturn. What was a good decision by the referee well? It was a wrong decision by the referee because it was a decision. I understand what you're saying in some sense because the rhetoric with clear and obvious is horrendous. It's absolutely horrendous. The bottom line here is it was clear on the Var check. The angles came through bear. Joined to then get to the ball. Let's kick just because the referee didn't see it. Yeah and no one appeal for it. Didn't look for not wanting to to think that doesn't mean it's not a penalty if Berg Wind doesn't get that shot off and the ball doesn't deflect goes then. There's no doubt in anybody's mind. That is a penalty but the fact that Bay wind ingoing don't in getting fold throws a leg added gets shutoff angles. All of a sudden no it becomes dubious or contentious. That doesn't add up for me. It's a penalty what doesn't add up for me. Is the amount of players and managers morning about correct decisions clearly for the benefit. Yeah you know. We've seen on tin decisions. Han boggs offsides penalties. That we're all correct but yet a manager go back and say wow. They said clear and ovation wasn't clean. Obviously Videotape Kara technologies for people. Just don't seem to accept the room and mix decision on on on the evidence then normally. It's quite clear. I was listening to one of the Post Game Conferences yesterday after wolves game where you're hot. Dot Offside given and it was close and majesty in well you can't see that depleted got an advantage from that position and I'm not all on hold. A sudden offset has become about gaining advantage. So now we're recruiting the laws in post game. Press CONFERENCES TO SUIT. What you think should be right. And to Craig's point it's become home is is a complaining. Y- correct decisions. Meanwhile Phone L. Win For our snow. Listen Up to ten minutes of the defeated Newcastle. Nothing really much happening the first half of this game much much better from our so in the second half. What do we learn from this Craig? Did we learn anything We'll see direction under the club. Admitted the decision. That's the biggest thing they've got going from. The minute decision with a Young Guy is coaching. Experience is dependent as big Joe. Beg Recruitment in summer there in touch and Destin's of some of the other teams above them the Champions League sports which is going to be five. We think who the hell knows what's going to happen. But effect and the teams above them. I'm not great the great teams and if they can run together and the Champions League sports potentially however that does not take away from the fight it still a big job back to where they really WanNa be which is challenging for the title. But it's a nice position for outs being because the bar is being lowered Solo isn't it? You're in a situation. Now where you put in a performance like this just gives a bit of optimism and hopefully Hilton laments listener new lose tattoo so far this season. Yeah one because the League has been as inconsistent as they have been and all of a sudden despite how poor you are you still in with a shout to music for both for next season and then you come up against Newcastle team. Who was simply awful on the day you get off for your friends four so to speak on scoresheet so it's a good day for Macau latter stern a lot of work to do and especially with the rumors this week about who wants to stay and who wants to leave. He's got his hands full. But I think also have made the right decision and not and everything. You've who'd form in particular region weeks suggest every bit as much you mentioned there are no way off though. Still that top-five place who's leading that race and the moment in your opinion. Is it spurs after today. Yeah probably just I mean. Obviously united will give themselves your you know heave up the jokes tomorrow so big F you know real strong but I would say spells unlikely to get much jeff before then season but then a decent possession. I don't. I'm not convinced by them. But I've been convinced by anybody up there. I mean less than than a great job to stay with the on what we know and love appeal. There are the rest of the stories not very not very interesting. But I would say Tottenham. I think Maria knows that I think he knows in his bones. They have an opportunity to get into the Champions League for next year. He'll say we're not yakult over fourteen. Oh it will love. That's a long way to go. That's how we pitch it and potentially NFL Cup as well which the style in a few weeks ago I was I was thinking woes but no said some of the performances haven't been as good as they once were. I know this team is looking more and more as you as a marina team up against the big boys in the League sits in tight and doing giveaway or an awful lot and we need to make a mistake and then against villa as much as it took nine two seconds on ninety minute winner. I thought they played really well but for Pepperoni they'd have been in. You know the the one. That's quite easy sometime before. They continue to pick a points when I didn't think they would be over the consistency. I didn't think they would have a few weeks ago. As you mentioned his Chelsea Manchester United Tomorrow Chelsea go into that game at Stanford pages favorites five to four on United seventy-two starts for me. Yes all he's been. Seen over recent weeks really carriers not the goalkeeper. You rely on between now and the end of the season. Frank Lampard disappointed with kept on wanting to send a message thing. That message has been received. No you've got to restore normalcy. This is it. This is going to find out if it's being received isn't it? Well I think now that the end of the day with the chasing black jokes is a little bit of inconsistency that teaching some the Alaska's going with a lump pot wants to keep capable whether they like some as a goalkeeper as a person is not is not really the point. The point is they're fast becoming under pressure from the teams behind him and he can ill afford to get his team selection Rome. Yeah so Cape was the best goalkeeper has at the moment. Which is you get a man on the other side of the coin. He's got a salt at the other end with the outplay teams for long periods decree chances but the finish of. That's the only way I can see. United getting a result at Stanford Bridge. We'll just go to me. I'm going to go to nil Chelsea. I'm going to go for three one dollars. Shack is off tomorrow. The main Craig. We'll be back out. Came as Sanford Fridge. Also be looking ahead to return of the Champions League this week in Italy. You've remained top of the table. But it's all at Seattle who now a second after a to victory over. Inter in the big match on Sunday so according to the bookies no surprise eventers are still favorites. They still have inter second favorite's last year. The outsiders of four to one D. Lots deserve more love. That's my question to you got coffee. Join us. Well if you know that I've been expecting lots here to to fall away and evidently the bookies have to but they keep proving that keep proving me wrong because they're relentless they're very well organized. They have show many individuals pop up at the right time and I think crucially this could be a really big thing between on the on the season They have no European football so they can prepare for every game fewer injuries. More chance to recuperate I look. They're not my favorites to win the title. But I think it's much much closer than that no way. Should it before to one? Don't forget gaming. Han recently against Dallas drew. Which wasn't a disastrous result without those two points topping the league this moment in time haven't lost since the game away to enter in September. That's great form goalscorer in Chiro mobilize who just keeps going and keep going Malinkovich. Hopefully from their point of view style is best again defensively very strong. And you've got a guy from Phil. Lucas layer forego is again isn't it snowed in addition job. If the in the middle of the park so love everything. I'm going to be still guy. Elisabeth is playing great. Some there's real top level binding the ball in the back of the net almost every week. You chance you're a real chance. Is it going to be enough check? I was GONNA be down for. Don't fall is as with with Inter Milan is. It's easier to just to lead and you show that of not only a couple of seasons ago when the to lead couldn't couldn't couldn't keep whole you're chasing I I know but if they do get to the top when they get so he told Khan they handle that pressure. That's a big question. We know that you can so right. No you understand why the book he's continued to have eventers as favorites. My head says you vent as the Mahar would like to see the impact win it. How problematic as Enter this defeat against GAM. Well go to Kmart afterwards. He praised his players and like he could have gone down the route to hang goalkeeper. Danila daily out to dry. Because I think he was he was responsible for not being strong enough and coming out and that makes up with screening are which led to the penalty on the second one. He didn't get down quickly enough Instead we talked Abou- process how he's only been working with his players for four or five months whereas in Zog had them for four years and whatever else but I think he was interesting about what it came to talking about Christian Erickson because he was asked look when you play against opponents who were very tactically organized shut up a space and it's a very tactical game like this one I don't you need somebody like Ericsson or indeed in the starting lineup. Somebody who can who's got the creativity to unlock them. He really sort of bristled dot. He said no. Because the most important thing is to keep balance in the team. And Look One guy's not gonNa make the difference and we got this far without. Ericsson and I found that really surprising because I would have thought Ericsson really would be the value. Add in this team especially in games like these rather than a guy you bring off the man off the bench last twenty minutes and tell them hey go. Do your thing. Strange ACID isn't it? It's something we all discussed when the insane and was the. Where is he going in the system? Do you think strikeout and plan as a second striker floating around that. Or one of the more natural midfielders out and amend their arguably behind let's Arrow and Lukaku and then it's a mortar attack team. In some sense it did the same thing at Chelsea with some success with Cobra. Thus Far Gosford. Weil was a guy that came off the bench for Chelsea under Conti when Tim's retired near the end and he picked a few pockets played a few policies and I think that's how he sees the Edrich enroll from the planet law. That's hardly an ideal scenario so oh to play for in Spain as of as of course it is in US Spain as well Real Madrid could only manage a two two draw today against Celta Vigo we saw obviously has aren't coming back. He started Gareth Fan when the Song Levin as well couldn't get it done for Madrid. They dropped two points at home. Meanwhile Barcelona Taffy by two goals so on. Es Lay as a camp. Now give me a ride down to the wire shack it will be and this Real Madrid as good as they've been and welcome back into Southern Lineup. Bid Back in the starting lineup. I still feel that they have question marks about them defensively at continue to see sit here. Romo's got Joan alter position time and time again that brought the opening goal but even then when when once they go up you think they they see through but somehow they managed to talk to points. I don't think it's that much of a crushing blue. But it's it's dense especially to give Boston's research chased every Tom Dick and Harry in the summer bustle on the Monitor. The dog scenario and if identified as well as the place on fire income point behind this just amid dense shack is says gab from from roots perspective I I think so I mean you know when you lose because of two defensive errors. You've done the other half of the job of course ninety chasing Lalita. Put the Champions League as well as always big game for them against Manchester City. According to the bookies its side who will go into that? I like Thai in the twenty. Six is a good weekend in the say if he were the top of the table all of them winning we saw unit went away against Cologne impressive performance from that. Nice couple of calls from getting in on the school she is well. Meanwhile life sick with a comfortable win a home victory and mooching black as well with the wind meaning it still remains just four points separate the top four by Munich. Gab Won that game in the opening twelve minutes that was done and dusted no problem? Cologne are particularly good. They're not a test but they gotta run out Kingsley. Coleman coming back closer to full fitness. Nabri was phenomenal especially his his second goal. And it's rolling along nicely and they look ahead to to the champion Zeke to Chelsea to look at the challenges and you kind of feel that that old confidence a coursing through their veins once again that have made Byron so dominant over the years. Yeah there is not buying swagger back you feel isn't it for the Star of The seas would always favorites in the jokes. Italian the Champions League for sure however. I think that is heightened by the fact that after the winter break in Germany. They've looked very very strong again. As you say the bones back in the straight. It doesn't listen. I'm going to have a day off. It's all Lake behind them at playing pretty well. They had a slow start after the break But the place in good football They've got goals in them. Nagas means one of the most up and coming coaches around the talk them in the Champions League who I think they're much say than taught them so they'll have to contend with juggling the Champions League on the title tell which is you know from their perspective. It's not something that have to do every year. That's a really good point is a in the sense that you know you look at the squad's by an deeper and therefore you so they're sort of matching the Wednesday match the weekend all very important and that's probably why they are so without question. Flick has two wonderful football individually and as a team understand to be the. It'd be favorites but having coming in a dormant I just feel. This team has been transformed a lot of pressure on Jinsong previously. Now Jalan this up some of that slack. I'm even somehow defensively. They seem to be coping whole better. Which was he'll just. If you have a Mrs show you can download the daily. Podcast is available every single day. You can do that via the website of Apple. Podcasts actually in Portugal today with a chance ago within one point of the top there away against Victoria be a good start to for the visitors fortunate. Eight Douglas will be awarded to go the goalkeeper. Every keeper's nightmare goes for the show over Olivera who strikes it. Well then comes off the crossbar and he had nothing. You can do about four minutes into the second-half Brunette Watson would make it. One one after a brilliant cross almost impossible angle. He managed to dig. This really made the question then on the hour mark. Unfortunately since then that everybody's talking Nusa Moraga Haywood score against his own side. Receiving a lot of racial abuse. You point to the color of his skin is celebrations. That would incite the home crowd. Some of them forming sink chicken. See Atlas striker. He would take one of those seats. Put It on his head. The referee would then book him. For what exactly ten minutes would then pass and he would continue to get all this abused and he would just say look substitute me. I've had enough. I'm basically don't have to put up with any more in the end. He makes his way to the sidelines. Despite the fact that not only his players the opposition plans. Wow trying to keep him on. A page can just see clearly that he's reached his limits. He would eventually go off. Walk down the tunnel. Portal would win the game by two goals to one but the result pretty much insignificant compared to the actions that we saw from some of the fans. This is what Marie gaps. Sony's Instagram after the game. I'd like to tell those idiots came to the stadium to shout racist abuse. Go Explosive Yourself. I also want to congratulate the referee for not protecting me and show me a yellow card. Because I'm defending my skin color. I hope I never meet him again on a football. Pitch your a disgrace. Meanwhile Second CONSEILLERS SALVI. Porto coach came out and said what happened is unfortunately we all completely indignant with what happened. I know the passion that exists for Victoria and I think the most fans not see themselves as having the same attitude of some people who insulted Mussa. Since the Warner warmup this is Hans of watching it was we have to keep reminding ourselves that we talk about this in two thousand twenty and again for all that we've seen over the last few years for all the discussion that's gone on for the protocols has been put in place. You have a referee. That is not protecting the list and as a result players are having to take matters into their own hands and walk the fields and that goes against every green in every professionals body. But when you get to that point and you feel that referees on protecting protecting you the clubs aren't doing enough the F. as aren't doing enough you wait for still. Some Ho fought through silent. You left with no other recourse but to make a statement and the statement player in that circumstance can send some to walk off and put everybody in a position of having to make a decision and having to defend their inaction. Is it to idealistic of me to think right? If a team of mine is getting this abusive he wants to walk off. I'm going to join him. I'm going to walk off with him. I was just thinking that shot was instead instead of trying to stop them coming off to get yourself off the field with the coach maker stance. This is what we're dealing with again. It's not obviously there's several countries many countries where is Hartman? Some are trying to deal with more than others appears Bhave individuals who top game and won so Katie. Racially abused people. Still and to think it's okay to rep chairs out and throw them from seventy eighty hundred free on talk replace heads. That's that's the kind of individuals you're dealing with these games and until those people are stomped out. It's not going to stop because what you understand. These people don't think street clearly. You're not thinking straight you're going to game and your actions are what we saw there. You're not you know a sane and been head for the player. It clearly was clearly was very very upset. A borough and I'm not surprisingly basically team was for him to to come off because you you're at that point but but the question. Dan Caught on Solti as manager of Napoli said. Listen if one of all players getting racially abused. I'm telling my entire team to walk. This is in the height of everything that was going on in football. And he says I'm telling my team to walk off. I'm taking the decision to you. I'm not leaving don't individual. I'm telling my I know that is what players want to hear about. Managers are going to support them in that we and you talk about great managers and be angry man manages. That is a big part of it. When you feel that the manager will go to war for you you will go to war for the and don't forget portal or and a very title race with Benfica so that would also make another Stein's to say we're not will care if you give us the three points are deducted three points from this tight Jerez because this is not so we're going and then we'll deal with it later and I think that would make a big stance clearly. This is something in the way. It's been handled. We're going to see this again. One hundred percent. We're GONNA see again well on the page. Three points go supports meaning they are one point now off. Benfica at the top of the table after Benfica lost yesterday against Braga plenty of content over on our youtube channel as a waste. Extra time is available every single day. Be sure to check it out over on the website yesterday go blue show that's TV breaking down. His Diet and his plans for the Diet was a briefing Donna. No let's not bad through language break. I toast yet. Look into right after tomorrow. What we say goodbye to shock your to carnivals Ali s Hashtag snaps Joe Hashtag. I won't take it. We volume drink has alerted being back them all right so that you can buy weapons extra time. Thank you very much for your tweet. Shock as his final date before carnival. Hashtag snap shackle him on the streets. Nassir packed you. We'd love to see the pig. Nobody wants to see that. We'd say. See that gap saying he's not GonNa Carnival Insa finished third and Sarah. Would you consider this season of failure? Gap Get all depends on whether I'm GONNA WANNA sound boring here. How how they finished third whether they show forward progress if it's close if they're playing better if it looks like they're building something is if the kids keep growing into the team guys like bustle like loud thorough. Maybe even though by then yeah. It could be a positive. It's if they run them if not if they're way behind and Run Away with it any better. No it's negative Craig. I'll talk about it without Kane. No they can play with. Some success are bustling messing. Never never with. Your best isn't good thing you think. Hang gliding to ask Greg that very question that he just asked. It entered himself better without messing. We give you staying. Oh this is comfortable with. Oh we have police pointing point shack as power rankings allergy. No you love it. But we don't have rules gills defending let with Stevie or I five with Gabba. Please remedy immediately. I think cavs hourly financial every Good Steve Dia or missing. Does he still think there's a chance Liverpool might not win the League Is I said barring little green men coming on earth and deporting Jurgen Klopp saudi-owned mind Virgil Van Dyke Alison Trent off to Jupiter. I think it's pretty unlikely as cray getting royalties is Jack Greenish. Transfer agent checking. Who set some ask someone? You knew somebody. Somebody WHO's in Tim? Our reverse as Jack released a very good player. I don't know I've never met Jack. Really shrout. Let's not. Let's say that you normally meet your I normally No I suggest. He's one of the most talented players with the real big clubs in England. Plus you hug your pushing house watching some older highlights and remember that planes. Once able to steal the from goalkeepers as they dropped from punt this this had happened to shack. Good never remember load. Who is it was it Andy Dibble was his name. Gary crosby headed housing for remember. That is remember that at all on Youtube. It was always be. I think it was close by the ground in Nottingham. Oh who headed a? I'll tell you what I think is on line two. Hey did I and schooled. That shouldn't have been illegal Rights but the goal was given. I would never happen to me to the Christian Chelsea live from Manchester United. Have yet to score an away. Goal this season. That's true Chelsea female wobbly the bridge. I don't know that answering you have a question. I'm really nervous about tomorrow's match Shapiro and be nervous. What you got to develop Pearson should maybe get some reading comprehension skills and learn how to read the league table and does that you'll find that matches. You have scored away from goal this season. Maybe maybe the Fan. I don't know wherever you sit down with. That was one said now. Okay bye might never. Would this no time Craig time hoping that? Hr WILL NOT I was. It was said once that would score the really of a wind classic Entirely different a couldn't think off the top of my head But I know that it's by an up and opened up by school. The we are shocker. About soccer shocker. In Locker listen flavor. Also now you're saying well Un's Lynnwood Connor. How much stick would you give a teammate? If they have the the nutmeg that led to the second goal was it in the game. I don't care not not make. I don't care how he got through right. I would just annoy. You had to play as a run them through so easy. I don't care if Meghan aw poisoning team. He get through. Yeah right and he shouldn't be squeezed out in that area with the payer professionally. Nobody kid about not make Sydney growing up. That was a big thing. Yes yeah people again Romania. Just don't let them nutmeg. Meat for the most comical defendant back just how what about in training not makes people you see that the Palestinians. Yeah so I came to me really. Yeah Yeah do you see cal for Israeli worries about it. I don't give a gift that's it. Ast NFC's pack tomorrow Shack is arrest. Le- let me be pictures. This let me be your pictures peacefully. Thank you very much go.

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Hour 3: Impractical Jokers

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Hour 3: Impractical Jokers

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Tell a story he does this. Wonderful thing occasionally to Miami where it's Sex and the animals. It's a scientific thing but it's also a funny thing in an interesting thing and he told a story. I'd never heard him tell before. Which is Ron? I was hoping you would tell the audience. This which is the time that you dressed up as a giant bird. You're six foot six. You've got a a mustache and you dressed up. A giant is a giant bird to arouse another giant bird. Well you're going to bring this up Dan. Yeah you know to get the bird what we do is. We'd have to collect semen to artificially inseminate other birds. And we don't want to artificially am we don't WanNA chemically mobilize the bird. So the trick is to stimulate him to voluntarily. Donate the cement so to do that. I have to kind of dress up like a female bird. I use Kinda like raincoat. That has kind of like a head on it. That looks like the bird and then I have to do the dance in front of the bird because the dance is part of the courtship that stimulates the bird to WanNa reproduce so after studying the dance what I do is I kind of do the same dance. And then the bird does a dance back to me and at the appropriate time of the dances when I just bend over and standstill so the bird can mount me. There's a Little Collection Cup at the base of my back that I just kind of have to sit there and the bird you know. Breathe me and makes it the positive that Little Cup that collected by. It's not really funny. It's science we're trying to saving thing. Did you question your life choices at that? Point the strange burden. Then we're trying to save endangered species. Dylan you're on with Ron. Mcgill of zoo Miami. Go ahead Dylan. Hey Ron I live in California right. Before the last earthquake birds started taking off right before it happened How do they and other animals? Now what's GonNa Happen before well understand? That earthquake starts not necessarily right. Where you're at. You're not usually at the epicenter of the earthquake So they sense these tremors way before you sense them Understand that These tremors you know even in water fish do the same thing they can sense things way before we as humans can sense them Because that that that those tremors travel long distances very quickly and way ahead of the time when you feel the strong ones. So that's what they're sensing sensing that Because they're hyper sensitive to those types of environmental changes because that's what their survival depends on. Barry's Edwin you're on with Ron McGill of zoo. Miami GO AHEAD. Edwin said I was curious my dog who I let every day He looks at me dead in the eye. Every single time that he's Qiuping and I was just wondering what what was going on with that. Why did that happen You know it's all speculative it could be one of two things the first thing is he's telling you this my territory look at me. I'm marking this. See this is mine marking this. Or He's looking at you like really. You're staring at me while I do this. It's one of those two Pat Holmes Austin you're on. Espn Radio Austin. Go ahead My question is someone's getting into my trash. My only live around squirrels and birds but they're only getting out chicken wing bones and I didn't think squirrels with want that. So what is it most likely raccoons opossums? They're the greatest trash raiders on the planet. There found throughout the country very very common very intelligent in the respect that they can get into almost any kind of trash receptacle and chicken bones are a love of theirs. Zach Elliott Dan you're on ESPN radio. Go ahead. Dan Hey Ron Our cat likes to steal my girlfriend socks and hide them. I didn't know if there was a reason that she did this. Or if she's just being a little bit. Thanks again. It's kind of like a territory thing. It's a possession thing it's a announcing that she's Kinda a head one and You know you're in is is is a is a huge communicator for animals. That's how they communicate sexual reception. That they communicate dominance and territory. That's how they established territory and that's what that cat is doing is basically establishing herself Against or with someone who she may think is a competitor con Specific Zach Prescott. Steve you're on with Ron Maclean. Steve you're on with Ron McGill of zoo Miami. Just keep it moving right on out. Steve. I live off. The shore of Lake Michigan. Ask watching the shore and we had some eagles. I was wondering. Aren't they supposed to fly south for the winter? And what are they doing still Michigan? Well you know it's one of a couple of reasons flight. South could have been delayed or postponed simply because it didn't get as cold as they thought it was going to get you know. Climate change is changing migration patterns of all kinds of animals whether it be birds butterflies with a B insects. These these patterns are changing with climate change. So it's hard to say why those particular animals did not follow. What was you know Originally a normal life migration round carson went gem you're on ESPN radio with Ron Miguel. Go ahead Jim. Hey wrong. I grew up in. Close the puzzle. Obviously Tony Fill. We all know. That's the animals out there that can actually connect early seasonal or weather for that matter. Thank you. I don't think there's animals that can predict early seasons of weather for that matter Do predict that. I do think they're animals that can predict when big storms coming hurricanes for instance. I remember being down here in South Florida during Hurricane Andrew and the day of Hurricane Andrew. I was beautiful. It was a breezy day blue skies puffy white clouds yet. I could not find a single native bird or navy native animal around the park. That's normally full of him. And I thought that was interesting. Of course that storm came in that evening it was catastrophic. So there's something that told those animals to get out of dodge and I actually use those animals as an indicator to me When I hear there's a hurricane warning if I go out and see that the the birds are still around. I said okay hurricanes coming but it's not gonNA be as bad as possibly possibly be or maybe they're predicting if I see. Birds have gone out of town. I start to get really worried run. I've seen a lot of products lately. Cbd products for dogs. And I'm wondering one what your thoughts are on those and two of their more effective than things like you know thunder jackets and stuff like that. I'm certainly not a doctor veterinarian. So I don't know I do know this that there really aren't placebos for animals. So if you have an animal that is being treated with. Cd and you see an improvement in its health It's not faking that. It's not a placebo. It doesn't think it's getting something that it's not you know. The animal does know that so I tend to think that it does work and I think we learn a lot from animals and the reaction to certain types of treatments things that can be applied to human beings. So I I look for animals for an honest And honest expression of how something is working as opposed to being fooled by placebo effect. Jomar Jackson Jeremy you're on. Espn Radio Jeremy. With Ron McGill zoo. Miami go ahead. Oh what's up boys? What's Up Ron? I got a question. There's a lot of flooding where I'm at. I'm seeing a lot of water moccasins. Can they bite you weather swimming in the water? Absolutely they can. That's a big misconception. That what am I cannot fight when they're swimming around the water Water moccasins also known as cotton mouse Or Black moccasins can very easily by when they're swimming in the water that's how they catch fish a matter of fact sometimes. I'll Murray Dr K. here on ESPN radio. With Ron McGill. Go AHEAD DR K. Is Up guys. Dr Case in West Virginia established not my fourth in the public birds population. And it's like we've like get more awareness about this with the increase in rodents and just how important they are to environmental and my worried about the decrease in bird. That's what happened was swallowed by send sort of hit a bong. Was that something. I don't know what happened. We have lost thirty percent of our birds in the world. And that's a huge huge red flag because like he was indicating birds do control things from rodents to being seed disperses and The fact that we're losing all of these species and these numbers Especially are something be profoundly concerned about. I've heard those bubbles before. Let's look at this video here if we can rotate harrow. All right let's play. Oh we gotta wood stork Now not a white stork white stork. And she's got three chicks. There's IT's typical mattress. Oh God she's grabbing the chick. No Oh no no no. I know what this is GonNa end like. Oh no no. She's not GonNa pick her baby and throw it over the edge. No can't happen please please please okay. Bring it back to let her go. See to it over the end of the NEST VIDEO. A mother child exactly. That's exactly what you just showed me. That's the only back here home. I got horrible do that. Why would we do that? I'll wait but why did you put that in front of me like that? That's horrible happened. Why did a mother? It's what what happens is the mother cannot produce enough food for all three babies so she instinctively sacrifices one. But I don't need to see that Dan. I don't need to see that you know that. And then we can Stugatz with Lao McCarty Lamar Jacket. 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This message paid for by Mike Bloomberg Twenty Twenty Libertad spent the entire Brag giggling at a tax. What does that text read? This has been the worst our in the last six years of the show. And it's not even close Stugatz and it's not even over these live with our show with Stugatz on ESPN RADIO. If you missed any of the show you can listen to all three hours of the Dan lebatardshow plus our Miami only hour and our best of podcast on demand in the ESPN APP and subscribe to the podcast network featuring South Beach Sessions Stupidity and mystery great please. Rate and subscribe new episodes posted every week. Wherever you get your podcast. Mike Ryan has alleged that we have some must. Listen sound from Nick Marquess who I called Nick. Man Cakes earlier in the show accidentally STU gods as an update for you. We were wondering earlier if all those poor children Watching the all-star game had been denied an education and a future because Team Jaanus lost. Stugatz is here with some good news. Janas gave Janas in the team. It gave a hundred thousand dollars. They were losing team but still give a hundred grand to those gates up. I mean come on Pony Up. Quarter Mills Nice number. One hundred grand. Tony they're spending other people's money a hundred grand get you a couple of scholarships depending on where it is that you want to go to school so. I don't think that that's a thing to criticize. I do think though that you should be made uncomfortable. By the fact that the all star game fitchet featured a whole bunch of poor kids not getting education because of team Yanni's results. What is the Nick Marquette? Sound also Mike Ryan is promising US Mason Rudolph on myles Garrett take you have not heard elsewhere. I maintain there is no such thing as must listen to Nick Marquette. You sound it angers you Especially from a guy who was played the game the right way his whole career No shortcuts I know how hard this game is. I know how hard Preparing for this game is and to I want to see something like that. It's it's it's damaging to baseball You know it's anger I feel like every single guy over there needs a beating You know it's it's wrong. They're messing with people's careers I know we're all competitive. And we're all we're out there competing but there's byways doing wrong ways to do and and One hundred percent disagree with the they did it. I stand corrected. I I love that in the same batch of sound where you get as someone who has done everything the right way. Believe every guy over there needs to be beyond that day and that is the Right Way Baseball. He sounded he was obviously taking his time. He was composed. I was a calculated statement. I had that was chilling. How we just casually said in the middle of that every guy there deserves. It was murderous that right. There is a murderous rage from nick beating as well. They say beaming or beating beating which is awfully worse than beaning. Yeah okay so wait a minute. Are you sure you guys are sure that he said beating and not beaming because beating a like what? What are we going to with a belt like? What are we doing there? You know. It's anger I feel like every single guy over there needs to beating his. It's a it's a beating but you're right it's heart rate. Didn't go up. It was an assassination streak. I did not know that Nick Martinez has had that level of unemotional assassin. Inside of him I did have nick. Marquesses someone who would tell you that he's done it the entirely right way entire career evidenced by no shortcuts. Don't end nick. Marquette also known Nick Marquette respects you. Nick no one any of the smoke but imagine if nick cheated how could he get how good he would have been okay because Dan? He's not that good. I mean I'm sorry I hate to break you. Go Aubrey of average before nine. Hundred Seventy two. That's average. Now that's down years above average seven. Sixty six is the high end of every off like that but it is half like a grant you that but I apologize for calling. Aubrey huff average. I think we can all agree nick. Marquez we can all say in quotes Nice little player. I feel like you're gonNA show that long days like the standard bearer for nice little player. Can you guys knock him off? If I send you on the poll pick Marquez. Put It on the poll Guillermo. Nick Mark Cake is the standard bearer for nice little player. Can you be a nice little player when you're endorsing beatings? Three gold gloves. I think I'm coming around here. Three gold gloves. I mean to ninety career average. Nice little player. What is your What is your unheard Mason Rudolph Miles Gary and there is not enough time hunting practical jokers coming all right. We will get to that in funniest thing from the sports weekend after the impractical jokers. Join US next Donlevatar. Espn allowed this Stugatz. They're talking forwards go. It added his heart as they can live with our show with STU GODS ON ESPN radio ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. James Murray and Brian Quinn. The impractical jokers could enjoy it as a just a second here on the shell. Pennzoil performance. Line here's your sportscenter. Update the North Carolina Tar heels have lost three of their last four games. A last second shot after blowing a fifteen point lead losing by one at Notre Dame North Carolina will have a losing record going into the ACC tournament for the first time since the two thousand one two thousand and two sees it. Drew brees has announced. He will return next year and finally. Kate Middleton says she enjoyed labor. Thanks to hype no birth. Be Hypno- birth okay. I mean that. Looks like hype? No birth to me it no birth. It also looks like Hypno- birth to many people who can read sports center brought to you by advance auto parts that go ahead. They advance at any time. One four batteries is about the fail. Get a free battery test at free installation with any automotive battery. Purchase only at advance auto parts for all the latest headlines. Information tune the sportscenter on ESPN radio all throughout the day. No I know you mentioned labor simulation. You mentioned labor and Brian. Quinn has had labor simulation. We'll get to that in a second. But James Murray and Brian Quinn Their new film impractical jokers. The movie is in theaters this Friday. They join us now. Thank you gentlemen for making the time. I'd like to start with James. Though if I told you about ten years ago. When you guys Started ON TRU TV. That it would become what from there? What how are you guys thinking about? What would become? We knew it would be this exactly and this is so clear to us now. When creates show? I don't think you ever know if it's GonNa hit most shows don't work. They fail in the first season. The most don't even make it a full season so especially when no-one knows what they're doing on the show like we didn't know we've no yeah first season the first two seasons we shot in standard definition because the network didn't require hard F- yet and when they switched to high death. We're like Oh that's why I don't know we did not know what we're doing back then but We we were very fortunate. We have a really strong fan base grew and grew and We tore in the tour led to the jokers cruise with just left out of Miami We were just there gentlemen and and now we have a movie. It's been a crazy crazy ride so but can you tell me what you expected. Did you expect anything? No we expect anything. There's no way there's it's I know you're directed these questions tomorrow. This is Q. I'm sorry guys I had to jump in because I love speaking negatively so not expecting things is my favorite thing of all I. It's this is no way. There's no way like four middle aged slobs from Staten Island. Like we're going to start goofing around each other camera. And everybody's in love and we're going to be. It's it's improbable. It's very impractical. One might say point counterpoint. I did plan all this from high school. The accused cop out a lot probably felt ready for it. Yeah you guys have influences. Yeah we're looking at some of them on the wall in the studio here. Yeah see Richard. Pryor we see the cast always I mean you've got Bill Murray Lovie. Yeah I mean I'm under the influence right now. Does that help you guys like what you premier day boys out premiers tonight? Yeah I started I. I like to start early. You know you guys nervous. The movie's done. It's it's out of our hands at this point. I am nervous for the weekend. You Know I. It opens around the country and Friday is the opening weekend if it does well. It will go to more and more theaters and grow so. I'm a bit nervous for the weekend but we'll see we'll see. I mean we have one of those shows that people people like real people like but we we don't we never get a lot of love from like reviewers or comedy snobs or anything like that. So I'm kind of excited to see what real reviewers have to say about us? I'm looking forward to framing. Possibly the worst of them. I'm GONNA be really excited about that. We also made the movie for fans you know so like over the nine years of filming the TV show ten years now. We saved up all the most the craziest punishment ideas we've ever had the craziest Challenge ideas and we put it into the movie because we couldn't afford to put it in the TV show. We only had a half hour so so we really made the movie for fans what happened to your finger man. What happened there right. So our movie premieres tonight. We're going. We're shipping US around all the country this weekend to surprise fans and pop into theaters and last night at ten thirty last night. I sliced the tip of my finger off and wound up in the hospital review hours so for the next two three weeks. This is this is my life. He showed me the pictures. It's horrific he has no more fingerprint. Nomo fingerprint victories. And be good depending on how our careers ago. Yeah that's true. That's a sick brank. Human's what happened. What is the worst of the pranks that you guys have endured? I'm sure you get this question a lot I. It's a good question because it changes every season so like this because everything gets worse and worse when season started shooting. Seton season nine so it just gets worse and worse so like last year we shot this bit at Universal Studios in California. And I don't know if you guys have been there but there's that tram ride that you go on takes you through the back lot. Somebody gives you information about the studio. It's probably not even true and like a New York City. Subway is one of those lines that you could pull to stop it so they had me stop it nine times nine times nine times on a forty five minute ride guys. I had family men fathers with their children on vacation. And this is a direct quote. Stand up and go. I'm going to find you and kick your ass when this ride is over. Yeah people children were screaming at me. There was worst. It was by far my worst moments again counterpoint. It was one of my favorite days. That's how we got the hang out on the back to the future set. That was because we shot like right there so our home base was was the courthouse from back to the future so me and my running into because security guards that what we WANNA do. We went into the courthouse. Went to the roof. We were like looking for artifacts. How about James? Tell me when you had your childhood. Crush was win. Cooper from the wonder years right so you had to talk to her in a Speedo. Where does that rank in terms of embarrassments? That you've had to keep this mind. I never imagined in my life. I would meet her. I never imagined when I did meet her. My nipples would be out. So that was. That was doubly embarrassing. It was until the movie. That moment was the most embarrassing moment. In my life I turned around walked to the door and hitting the door frame but in the movie. I'll give you little spoiler without tank too much. But in the movie my birthday fell them in the in the middle of filming and we filmed the movie all day we finished at like six PM and the guys are like let's go off for your birthday. Tomorrow's they all get cool. We'll go to a bar drinking. And he took me out after that and what I didn't know is that hours later on my birthday night. That was actually part of the movie as well and the whole night was constructed and that moment in the movie is the most embarrassing moment of my life. It's horrible all right so you can give us a little more. They're just a little more. Come on people are going to want to watch the movie or they're not going to watch the movie. Here is my life before that moment. This is my life did not going to give away. Does I will say this. It doesn't involve just about every member of my family. Who was in town? Yeah James Murray Brian with us on. Espn radio the new film impractical jokers. It comes out in theaters. This Friday. Keep you have a fear of spiders? Of course you were chained to a table. Spiders crawled across your body. Put us there. Put us there. Put us in your head okay. Let me correct. I'm not afraid of spiders. Spiders a tiny little bugs that nobody cares about. I'm scared of Tarantulas. Which have no place on planet earth? As far as I'm concerned they're huge. They're Harry so what they did is they. Took me to this. Like abandoned warehouse in the middle of Brooklyn they shackled with chains to aboard. And they brought in a Tarantula Wrangler and F. That Guy. Because through life wanting to be a tarantula wrangler reject of society. Go screw yourself you. And you pet tarantula come rolling into Brooklyn I probably can't curse by a lot of curses to say that guy. So they chained me down to the board and they start releasing tarantulas on me and they cut this out. But I want you guys to know this because I know guys guys when I see him. I'm looking at the two year right now. I was so terrified that I snapped a chain to get off income and go cut. They cut it down by like we can't have that that's not funny. If you break the chains and I'm like I'll care about funny at the fact that they re chain me to it and put twice as many tarantula at the end of it. I don't know if you guys know this Tarantulas shed. They have husk. No you mean no. You did this to me over the Tarantula Husky and pour it over my head. And that's where I found out gentlemen that I was allergic to tarantula hosts because I broke out in hives all over my body from Tarantula off like corn. Yeah that was a terrible day. That was the last day of shooting on season. Six six or seventy six and the crew afterwards. Usually I wrap. Parties are insane because we have degenerates crew. This this wrap party. They were like man. That wasn't funny. We didn't find that it was like a real sombre affair again counterpoint. One of the greatest days of my life to both of you have terrible tattoos that you've had to endure because of price. I've got a ferret skydiving tattoo on my thigh. I liked by Taito. My Tattoo is because I keep a real so I live alone with three. I have three cats and I live alone so Joe Gadoe gave me a tattoo. A biker tattoo with like a cute kitten and it says lives alone has three cats thirty eight lives. The problem is it was instantly dated now forty forty three. But I like my tattoo and it's also on my arm like whatever he has to show people as Tattoo. He's gotTa Yang's pants down so I made up pretty good which Which one of you forgive my ignorance here? Which one of you had to simulate Labor? I don't know what that's like because Q. That's me and this is really starting to feel like a dog pile. They put well. It's not just that they put these electrodes on you. That that gives you the pain of birth a simulate the yeah childbirth. But that wasn't enough. They put me in a room with pregnant women giving a speech to like. I took about eight months pregnant. Giving a speech to pregnant women about what it was going to be light to give birth as if a man would know and then shocked me in the middle of it so I was speak through this pain trying to tell the women how it's going to be that bad while while screaming at the same time. What's the angriest people or someone who's been with you? During all of this we our goal is to get people angry. They really don't. It's amazing what we can get away with and I think most people realize that the joke is on us and not on them We've had a couple of close encounters. Yes some dude hit Murray on the head with a cellphone. There's that yeah. That was one of my favorite some some dude. Cut the tip of my finger. Last you know a seventy seventy five year old World War Two vet grab sal by his ear and pulled them out of line Jim Out. He always beat off choked him out he would have been. It would've been great. Kingsbury Brian in new film impractical jokers movies in theaters. This Friday guys. Thank you for joining us. We appreciate it. Thank you say one more thing before we go all right. Yeah I just want to let the fans of the show know that. It's a limited release. So it's it's you have to go see it opening weekend if if you wanted to get any wider so anybody out there that loves the show and plans are going to see the movie. You'd be doing us a huge favor and other fans of of the show of favor if it went wider in the second weekend. So don't wait at least US giving ten dollars to every fan. It goes this weekend. I'm not doing that. Don't listen to that that's not happening. Thank you guys. It's on US Donlevatar. I watched the gay man. I watch the game. They'll do one of these things that you didn't watch the game and you're GonNa make me feel stupid about what I said. I watched the game I saw with my own. Two Eyes Stugatz. I saw the game too. Damn these things live at our show with his two guys on. Espn radio today is for doing and today. The University of Florida celebrates Billy Donovan for the first time in five years Donovan returned to Gainesville as the school. Name the O'CONNELL center floor after him over the weekend really billy Donovan is a floor named after him on the hardwood his signature was poised both ends between the three point line and the key in his nineteen years. Six hundred and fifty three games as gators. Coach Donovan Went Four. Sixty seven and one eighty six winning three. Sec Coach of the year awards two National Championships. Today is for him. And it's brought to you by the Home Depot up with everything you need to do. Projects Smarter Faster and easier. Welcome to today's Home Depot. How doers get more done. Let's do the funniest thing from the sports weekend. Pay People what Sport Menu Laugh hardness. He's weakened segment we go. What made you laugh this weekend for the sports week. Brought to you by advance auto parts getting free battery testing free installation with any automotive battery purchase at advance auto parts ahead. They commands Tony. What was the funniest thing from the sports weekend? Guys a household name coal boozer right. I'm alright. Dc Defenders Offensive. Lineman is known for Crushing Beers with fans. After the game he came over to the sideline and chugged an entire coors light. A man after my own heart. Funniest thing all right. He is named actually Boozer Billy what was the funniest thing from the sports weekend? People investigating whether or not Jose altuve actually had a tattoo on his chest and whether or not it was a bad tattoo. All Astros things including the Astros fans shooting and boycotting buffalo wild wings for tweet deserve to be mentioned here Roy. E Dubs what? It was the funniest thing from the sports weekend Stephen. A Smith receiving the first ever technical foul at all star celebrity. That was planned right he planned. It was run a show. It was going to do something to get. That was he was going to do something to make himself the story. Mike what about you? What was the funny thing from the sports weekend? Look I know I get painted as accompaniment but this. Xfl Is all of this. And even the bad games are compelling because the access that they have everything from the fans in the stands. Matt mcglone throwing everybody under the bus to the beer. Snakes to the Bud Light Seltzer celebrations after the game. This is the most fun I've had watching football in a long time. It's ring my parents had a game. I'm telling you man I'm telling you this is really good wine. You have a bad game when someone does something bad Diana Rossini like that part. That part is funny in all of sports. Adopt that part Stu Gods what did you think was the funniest thing from the sports weekend. James Harden Houston's having a rough go of it aside from that whole winning of the world rock next to hang their hat on I'M GONNA go with Zion Bending and it's only because I can't tell whether it's true or a parody account that the death metal band Guar NPR's tiny desk series. Yes you have to see the costumes. These guys where you have to see the total death metal and I can't tell whether it's a parody account or not that they threatened. Npr's tiny desk staff with Ripping they're Li polls open. 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Pick a Religion #439

Thank God I'm Atheist

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Pick a Religion #439

"Everybody hi guys well from springtime in Salt Lake City. It's thank God i Nathan. The podcast. I'm Frank Kelvin and I'm damn beecher and coming up on the show later on in the show Dan we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA asking ourselves. What would we do if we had to choose if we had if we absolutely had to join a religion? If somehow that were a mandate a requirement. We do won't do. We've been doing it for a very short period of time. More of maybe a a quick soup soup that we we just came up with a quick soup of ideas about that right well coming up. I got a bunch of stories for Ya Dan. There's been now I suppose we're a lot of people a little bit of a mystery. Where is this corona virus? Come from Do you feel. Do you wonder where did not exactly. I know exactly where you know I do. I suppose what science than it was created in a lab by Hydra. Yeah that's exactly what I'm talking about right. No there's a cleric in Pakistan who ha who knows. He knows where it came from. He was on national. Tv during a telethon that I think was raising money for like I don't know what it was for. Yeah like they're they're raising money and The Prime Minister of Pakistan was like I guess like onstage or in the studio like right there and when with the sky and he starts going on and he he says and and I trust him. I think I think he's right here. Well I mean that's who you go to for your Up to the minute not Scientific Knowledge Yeah. He says that it's That the virus has been Unleashed on all of us on all of humanity has the wrong doings of women. Yes nailed it. Finally someone says it. We've all been thinking it. Yeah apparently It's because when it's specifically the women who are so often scantily dressed right and Their behavior is inappropriate. Right on these women. Walking around their burqas don't even cover their ankles like the sluts that they are out there. Probably like you know blinking. Their eyes seductively at people. Yeah it's just it's it's shameful is what it is. Yeah and he's having none of it Apparently there's been a bit of backlash surprise. Surprise Actually Kinda surprising Because nobody outside of Pakistan probably would've seen this and people in Pakistan. There's some people upset And so he you know initially Condemned the media for spreading lies And he said that it's a slip of tongue but he's he's refused to apologize for his remarks made love it and I didn't mean to say that but if I did it's real I don't apologize that you said that hush I really don't have anything to apologize for having said it but that's well that's a good idea. I definitely I you know. I definitely didn't mean to say that I thought I was saying something else but now that you pointed out to me that was pretty awesome. Sounds like so good? I'd say I'm GONNA keep that. We're keeping an my Lord. Well speaking of people getting into a little bit of hot water over things that they've said New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio who is having a great time. I'm sure these days Boy what a treat to be. New York's mayor during this Particular moment in history. He has so he's been in charge of shutting the fucking city down and that is not an easy city to shut down. But you know of course they. They got hit Super Hard. Like everybody lives exactly one foot away from everyone else in on city and it's not easy to keep a pandemic from killing all of your people so I'm some people are making it harder for others exactly so I mean so unlike Utah or many other places he said and put in some hard and fast rules about people not you know about social distancing and everybody's sort of sheltering in place and that sort of thing but when a beloved rabbi from the Hasidic Jewish community in New York. Passed away Well apparently the the the ultra Orthodox didn't get the memo about keeping home and came out by the thousands To A to a funeral for which is about as idiotic thing as you could possibly do. I understand like I feel for people who are losing their loved ones right now and can't do a funeral for them. That's hawks not being able to commune with your with your community with your loved ones with your family over the loss of of someone that you love I get. That's the worst fucking. Stay the fuck at home. Did such an obvious thing to do well not to the Haredi Community of Williamsburg Brooklyn so de. Blasio took a went and broke it up. He literally showed up and like got the police and they dispersed the crowd. The mayor shows up to this thing. Apparently that's that's an hands on mayor ring. Yeah wow he was. He was mayor in the fuck out of that thing but he was I but So he broke it up which was pissing people which of course is going to. Piss people off anyway but then he tweeted about it. Also saying that It was something that it that it was What is he's had some something absolutely. Unexpected unacceptable happened in Williamsburg tonight A large funeral gathering in the middle of this pandemic And then he also tweeted my message to the Jewish community and all communities. Is this simple? The time for warnings has passed a bill. I assume that's Referencing police warnings. He's he's saying. Right Rescue Spurs. Yeah no arrests actually happened There were no the police Just dispersed them and said a few dozen a dozen summonses were issued sure but However boy did the Orthodox Jewish community freak out. You know at this crazy crazy. Guy Who's trying to save their lives literally because he said this is my message to the Jewish community and all communities City Councilman High Deutch. Who represents a a large Orthodox Jewish communal constituency said the mayor? He said this has to be a joke. Did the mayor of New York City really just single out one specific ethnic community a community that has been the target of increasing hate crimes in his city being noncompliant which yes correct. Yeah they have been an increasing target of hate crimes. Yeah lately and that's awful but but I think as it was being non compliant in the moment absolutely Jesus Christ like look around. They were doing it. So there you go. I mean this this also is a problem with the I mean. I guess it's just fundamentalist. Religious people are apparently believed that their immune to viruses. Because the same thing's happening in Israel. Apparently that some of the major all of the major outbreak points are are majority Haredi communities so we had you know whatever you don't believe in it can't hurt you if you have to believe. Yeah Yeah and then and then you clap your hands and you cook your heels together and using there's no virus in me there's no virus in me there's no virus in me and then you wake up and and your old is black and white. That's right that's right. I had a virus and you were there trouble mares in trouble well I mean first of all. I have to say the mayor showing up on site. I don't know I know all the INS and outs the whole story in it. But I'm impressed by that. That one detail right showing hands. I guess I guess I wouldn't go there. I wouldn't go. I mean no aches too many people. Yeah who are potentially going to be really mad at you. Yeah all right well Dan Yeah. We've got Ramadan coming up. Ding-dong Dr Adam already did start. This actually article is a few days old. So yes so. Ramadan has begun actually yet. Now I remember it starting and I remember going out that night and seeing the crescent moon gorgeous. It's nice of the Lord of a lot to celebrate by bye. Decorating the sky with simple started on the twenty third on the twenty third. Okay well nonetheless So for the last over a week now There have been there has been a call. Muslim call to prayer in Minneapolis a heavily Muslim neighborhood. Okay the Cedar Riverside neighborhood of Minneapolis. And this is kind of this is not. This is the first time it's ever been like a public call to prayer over the loudspeaker from the from the mosque The the you know because like the Muslim thing is you know like Instead of like church bells comrade traditionally to church they would call out for using their voice calling people prayer to come to the right. And it's it's. It's sort of a song sung theoretically either played over a loudspeaker or soured the loudest guy in the village. Yeah from from a minaret. Yeah whatever and if they didn't have that how would we know in movies that we were in a majority Islamic part of the world? Exactly what would they could? They use the so So the trick of these prayers One of them is of course that It happens five times a day correct and starts in the wee hours right. Oh God So there's there there's often been a little bit of resistance in this country. This is not the first sort of public you know publicly audible. Call a prayer in the United States. You know in Michigan couple of other places on before But this is specifically you know even though it has the potential to really the non-muslim Neighbors this is this is happening because The the Mayor of Minneapolis Jacob Fry Worked with Minnesota's Council on American Islamic Relations or care And then specifically the specific mosque. This is meant to be a safe distancing practice during Ramadan big Riley. It's all about community prayer during Ramadan. Yeah they like to get together during for prayer during the so. This is stay at home and this is. This is our olive branch so to speak. Where we're we're letting this happen. Were we're encouraging this in order to keep everybody safe and I think it's I think it's a great example of People just sort of working together with even faith communities in order just to figure out like how do we keep people safe because well? Let's let's make you guys as happy as we can make you during this time when you can't do the thing that you really want to be doing and see if we can get you to a happy enough of a place you're not going to break the rules hopefully right hopefully and You know this is far better than you know. Any of the Evangelical Ding dongs are breaking quarantine to go to church. And what like what could we should have given them something. Yeah Yeah make them happy somehow just complete control over our government. How about that? Yeah well they. That's the problem we've given them all the things. We have nothing to bribe them with. We have nothing to make them happy. Because they have everything they want. And they're still feel. Persecuted unreal. Yeah you maybe if we promised to actually persecute them. They'd stay at home when all this is over boy are we going to persecute the hell of you? You're GonNa have your narrative is going to make so much sense. The all of a sudden that thing that were lacking well there. You go so what what has been the reaction to the to the call to prayer. It's happened the hersal doesn't go into like okay so no. Nobody's like nobody I I was. I was wondering like the back of my mind was like did someone call the cops for noise ordinance violation or what the cops the dodgers would have been on the dispatch board. Yeah well yeah I would man if it was. I'd be calling the key to somebody's yelling over a microphone neighborhood like the first call to prayer is so early. Dan. I'd be so mad. They me alone. Where's the snooze button on the call to prayer? That's what I want to know. It's happening now around five. Am Oh God. Don't don't shame on everybody and it all depends on exactly where you are on the planet to. Oh God yeah you gotTa face to face Mecca. Anyway I'M GONNA take us Speaking of of Muslims I'm GonNa take us to Nigeria where it's a it's not. It's not an awesome place to not be a Muslim. They're currently and especially not awesome to not be a out an atheist as we are As has been learned by one Mubarak Bala who is president of the Humanist Association of Nigeria? Which got the bravery that it takes to be that just to be that is that is bold. Because in spite of Nigeria's theoretical you know they have a constitution that says freedom of religion and freedom of expression and all those things that doesn't mean that it actually exists in any real form and apparently he that is proven by the fact that he He was he's been arrested allegedly for blasphemy by for criticizing Islam on his facebook page. So that's not going to go well for him. He apparently a group of lawyers wrote a petition for for his arrest calling for his arrest This is a man who was who in two thousand fourteen was placed in the mental a mental hospital for the crime of not believing in a deity so Jesus cool cool cuckoo. Cool you guys. Well I mean obviously you'd have to be insane not to believe in Allah because boy everything he wrote makes so much sense. Well yeah and he's like a really cool guy to like. Yeah just just easy on the whole you know. Just a really awesome weird rules about pulling and peeing right anyway Well Dan Yeah. Oh God this weird story to follow that one with Saudi Arabia okay. It just became a slightly less awful place to be in the event of you committing a minor crime. They have abolished flogging. And which you know like I. It's it's obviously going to be chaos in the streets flogging. Ya even keep the rule of law going. If you can't flogging guy. Yeah you know Well you might do as they're doing You might replace flogging with prison sentences and possibly fines downright civilized. Welcome to the seventeen hundred eighteen. Hundreds of flogging was US to punish a variety of crimes including drinking alcohol Having a fair more apropos to your illegal blogging Yes and if you're not familiar with it it's They would use a cane And they would hit you on the back a bunch of times in a public square. Find you know causing the skin to break and heavy bruising Often people would be left with nerve damage and infections psychological and some people even died. Oh yeah well there you go so I mean. That's God's choice really whether you live or die. It's in God's hands now it's in God's hands o Lord I you know it's I don't know I mean great. Good job stop flogging people that's probably for the best although between like years of prison or or even months of jail time and flogging depending on how many canings I got I I might have to think about it to be perfectly honest i. I don't know Dan I wouldn't like it like you know. That's that's a couple you know. Fifteen minutes of extreme pain and then several days or months of really bad pain and then but like at least I'm free. Yeah Yeah I don't know I. I think I think I would take a again. They're not saying how long jail time for I mean it's quite possible they'll be locking people up for years just for alcohol you know but yes Saudi Arabia's. They're they're trying to make themselves look Lamar civilized women are driving. You know what's going to happen next. They they could be in in the twentieth century before you know it. It's a country on the move. Yeah exactly Oh man. Well you know you and I have been talking about it for a few for weeks now. The fact that American churches do not want to close just because some stupid virus. I'm so like where's your faith Dan. Where's your faith as well? So they've been practicing their faith. God Love Them. I find it like half of me is impressed by all of these people who end up going to church faithfully. Because they're covered in Jesus blood or whatever and then they well at least their their money's worth their mouth. Is You know what I mean. At least they're not claiming that they believe a thing and then not actually believing that yeah but but they're also like not believing in like the the health threat right one thing if they were like. Oh my God this like there's like plague legitimate player and like you're probably going to get it if you go outside and you're probably going to die and then they're still going to church okay. I'm impressed by maybe that they're stick to it but like there's something in the air not in re in the air that's the wrong phrase but there's you know there's something that other people could can give you. It's it's bad if it spreads because it the overwhelms the health system and a lot of people die but it's it hasn't really touched their community hard yet and they're saying it's not real. Yeah impressive to me. I'm sorry I'm sorry when they when they think that like they're being good Republicans by not by by like daring people to cough in their face which I did see a protest or one of those protests. Actually being like coughing my face. It's fine everybody come copying my face like okay you you have. You have stupid and you anyway. It turns out strangely and I don't know I don't know who could have predicted this. I don't know who what profit could have seen this coming. A lot of folks died because of this and not just People in the congregation on as many as thirty leaders in from the largest African American pentecostal denomination have died. Thirty of their of their pastors of what hurts. Leaders themselves have died from the outbreak. Wow Yeah and it sucks that it's primarily hitting these these African American churches because we really need more of these white pastors to die off but Yeah it is happening and it's happening all over the place But yeah I mean that's a that is now that is no small number no pastors No Word on how. Many of the their congregants. But you know if you've got that many pastors just imagine the number of congregants that are dying. That are going. Yeah Holy Crap. That might be hard track right. Yeah I mean it's tricky but like but finding local stories about the pastor dying in the newspaper. That's yeah yeah that's easier to do not know what he has to do a study. Yeah to to figure that out. Oh My god Dan it is. It's going to get bad in some of these places getting bad it is bad bad and I'm just oh I don't know a lot of these and a lot of these guys were talking about. You know how this isn't real or whatever and the need to practice your faith by getting out there and then they die so the question for me. Is people learning the lesson no? I don't think they are now. I don't trust them to do that. I've seen far too much of humanity to know that like far too often. The evidence is very clearly presented to them right in front of their face. The person who's telling them that the thing is ally is of the thing. Yeah and it only confirms the faith of the people and it's I don't know how works constantly happening psychological. That is like some crazy ship. It's it's the most human thing in the world though it's how it's how all of the conspiracy theorists work anything that That that they say you know that that you point out to them that discount firms their their thing confirms thing. Yeah Somehow turn it into a thing. That's so weird all right so there you go. That's happening it. Listen folks if if if your pastor just died you can write to us. Tell us about it podcast. Thank God I'm atheist dot com or calling. Leave a voicemail message. The telephone number is four two four six six six eight four four two. Yeah go to the facebook page facebook dot com slash. Tgi Click the like button. We need you to like us and while you're there search for the TGI members only lounge request join. It is a closed group. We will let you can also find us on twitter at TGI assed yes indeedy and stick around. There's more so Dan Hey do you. Do you like a good profit. Oh you know I it depends on how you spell it actually pretty fun of an another kind that I think is dopey and silly. But here's the thing the silly ones might what? Maybe my more my more favorite kind. Because why are they just not balls anyone who considers themself capable of prophecy? Here's the thing all of these prophets make predictions about the world. That's kind of their whole GIG and guess what they're wrong all the time. Worse there unless frank unless you figure it different and land and I I think we have to listen to to what is the name. Jeremiah Johnson. Johnson Yeah Prophet and Pastor. He's got. He's got the new math on on prophecy. Accuracy so listen to what he has to say. Years Ago I prophesied to man in a meeting. I got his name. The Lord showed me a large business. He was beginning to become a multi-millionaire. I mean tremendous does probably like the greatest prosperity were bear. I ever gave. I mean I could preach the best of them just came on me. He called the office five days later. And Said you're a false profit. My just went bankrupt. Now listen to what I've been teaching you today. By the word of God I said brother I actually believe now after what? You've told me that. That was the word of the Lord. I measure prophetic accuracy. By how much warfare follows it. I said I'm now convinced. That is the word of the Lord because now it's getting tested now. God is going to strip you down and humble you and really see where you're heart's at. Can you really Stewart those millions? No but we just want the word of the Lord and that week money from Heaven Money. Cometh whatever my God. Oh He's a smart man. He's a smart brand. Obviously and I I you know if you were a Prophet. I bet you get tired of people like coming to you and being. That wasn't true. And you're like fuck you. Yeah it was it was are we warring right now is there? A war happening boom my prophecies true. Usa. You're not a millionaire. I win yeah what you want it come true like whatever now's notion that's not what I'd profit does they don't come true. This isn't this isn't an accuracy contest. Like like you know something like Fortune Cookies Yeah. This is about the war on Dong. I'm I'm looking for war here. I want to know what he says when somebody when he gets one right somebody comes down and he's like you know what you are. One hundred percent accurate. Everything was peaceful nice and it came. True does does that just ruined his whole thing. He's probably just like what do you mean? What do you mean like? It's not about being right. Oh Wow oh I see you are. Yeah she of little faith. No you know he takes. Full credit was like how Sam Straight. Yeah Yeah. Because that's I mean it's modeled after his Lord and Savior dear and Fluffy Lord of his. Who says things like you know who basically takes credit for everything? Good that happens in everybody's life right and gives eggs and take zero responsibility when anything goes wrong. Not Unlike our president we had some folks right into us and I need to pull that up. Here we go cosmic road into us. Say Hey Franken Dan I apologize for dredging up old material but hearing you talk about the sexual power dynamic that is created and exploited between men and women in in polygamous mormonism. Got Me Thinking. My understanding is that in many cultures That have practiced or practiced polygamy there is a status for males who have wives that is withheld from those who don't and more status attached to a greater number than fewer. Has this ever been present in this religion? Oh Yeah Oh yeah it was It was all about. What do you think it was exactly? Yeah obviously the more wives you like when you practice especially in the US like in a country where it's not where it's commonplace. I don't know how common how big a thing this is but in a country where it's it's what makes you and your people the Weirdos of the entire country. Yeah who can be the Weirdo? Ist is the winner of mormonism. That's how you win mormonism so yes back when Mainstream mormonism was practicing polygamy a one hundred percent if you had more wives and also like it's a status thing right because in order that like be able to feed all of those wives and all of those presumably have rug rats or a bunch of them do yeah in order to be able to feed and house everybody you have to have a lot of money and as we all know in every like religious tradition. That's worth its salt more money means the Lord loves you more. And you're you're more blast. So more wives equals more blast. More money It's it's a whole thing and now like maybe less so in the in the original mormonism but You look at fundamentalist mormonism that still practice polygamy and who they you know. They do arranged marriages largely and man. It's it gets ugly. They just because the problem is that it's a closed system right. Nobody enters enters their group. They don't have converts so they're just drawn from their own small little gene pool and the problem is that you know. Birth rates are tend to be fifty fifty male female whereas when you know when some guys have four or five wives you're going to you're going to have some guys who are left out in the cold and your wife wise and and they end up solving this problem in the best possible way which is kick out the boys that they don't like earth out of the community yeah kicking the fuck out. Yep Dan. Have you ever noticed phenomenon of like Mormons Today Sorta like like if somebody's being a little bragging about their their ancestors like they invariably have some polygamist ancestor right and it almost confers generations later. Even though it's not a practice and anymore in the church right like you know. Somebody's talking about their their polygamist ancestor. Ooh first of all. They were pioneer right ancestry India deal. That's a status thing and then also like they obviously were like you know well to do and well often important right. They haven't Horton ancestors if a polygamist family they there's some there's something trickled down generation like generations later. Yeah it's funny. Because they have this love hate relationship where it's like. Oh they do not like to talk about the polygamy thing they don't they're not comfortable with it they think on some level they feel icky polygamy but if you get them talking about their own ancestors. Yeah Oh yeah well actually. My Great. Great Grandmother was the fourth wife of Brigham Young. So it's a big fucking deal fancy. Yeah Yeah it's ridiculous. I feel bad for Mormons. Almost goes E. They're not you know there are a little confused cognitive dissonance there. Yeah all right. Elliot wrote into us. Frank exclamation point then exclamation point. Last week you read an email taking you to task for predicting wrong on the outcome of the two thousand sixteen. Us election. I I don't think you guys generally frame these kinds of things as predictions no. They're more prophecies really which we just found out which we've found out we don't get right to get it right anyway usually use softer language. Second I feel. Pretty confident of Frank Mused on the podcast in August or September of two thousand Sixteen Donald John Trump would win the general election. That's price frank cynicism for the win. Elliott does have one more thing. Oh One quick aside to you guys as residents of Utah if you want to have any say on our next governor is suggest you register Republican and request a ballot for the upcoming Republican Gubernatorial? Primary heard of people doing that. Yeah yeah this has been I have been agonizing over this because what Elliott is pointing out is correctly is that Democrat a registered Democrat or any or even someone like me who's registered as an independent has no say in who the next Governor of Utah. We'll be right because it. It is entirely determined by the Republican primary and in the State of Utah. You're not allowed to participate in the Republican primary unless you're a registered Republican. So so I I'll admit it I did. It registered Republican in the State of Utah and I hated. It felt so icky to do it because it feels like a lie. I want to have some say in. Who are next. Governor is and. It's the only way I for anyone to to have that say. No one party system is to join the party. It's gross oh boy. Alright you'll I hope you chose wisely. Well I mean I the hasn't come. It's June when that happens but but you know there are some actually decent Republican candidates on the ballot this this year so so I you know I would love to be part of them being Actually I don't know especially cannot vote for anybody who who came out of the convention system because you know they have a crackpot. They can make it through the Utah. Republican convention and be the ballot. They are a courageous man. It's ladies and Gentlemen I. I'm going to say it. Democracy is not awesome. It's just it's just not. We have not found a way to make it work yet. Not here not anyway all right. Thanks Elliott Dan wrote into us. Hi Guys My name is Dan and I love your show and if your name is Dan you must be. You probably handsome. That's all I'm going to say. Anyway you've spent a lot of time discussing Jay dubb's Jehovah's Witnesses and interacting with them. You recommended not doing You recommended not doing that. Which is to say interacting with them in general which is good advice or sorry which is which in general is good advice. Well I'm a sixty five year. Old Hippie stoner atheist and taking advice never was for. I have fun talking to the Jay. Dubb'S I've heard all the debates in dockings and Hitchens etc and I have all the arguments from those great thinkers more or less handy in my head so we have lively chats. I never quit until they do. The best part watching Jay DUBB's smile politely back away and declare need to move along. It's sort of a sort of the shoe on the other foot. You might say so. Thanks for your great work and don't drink lysol from Dan. That's sweet. I mean if you can beat them at their own game why not or at least make them a so uncomfortable daily view. I don't know there's sure if you get a kick out of it that's great. I always feel bad for people who are like trying to debate them in earnest. Like hoping to get anything out of it other than an entertainment because well and you're not gonNA they're not GonNa hear Ya. Yeah you are keeping them from. Maybe finding some pray out there. So that's true the long- The longer you keep the you know I I should have that attitude because that's the attitude that I had for the longest time when whenever I got a sales call telemarketer I would keep them on the line ad. Infinitum IF I had if I had any time at all it was just constant it was and I would see what I could get away with two. It was like yeah. I'm super interested in the product. Actually you know what I have to go to the bathroom. Can you just hold for a minute? While I go to the bathroom and then see how long I can keep them there. I'll come back to them. I'll check in with them. I used to now. It's all robocalls now. Now there's no fun to be had anymore anyway Hey speaking of Dan. I believe. It's the same. Dan also gave us a one time donation so I wanted to thank him so much for that. That is very very sweet. Thank you so much. And if you of course would like to join Dan in being coming supporter of the show. You can go to thank God. I Made theus Dot Com and Click on the sport tab. Yeah Yeah and then And then you can go to patriarch on or to pay POW. You can select your level of support and and we appreciate it and then of course we do have somebody to thank Dan our top donor our Lord and save your Jesus. Thanks David thanks. Everybody and we sure do appreciate your support. Dan. Hey So we talked about this at the beginning of the show that we were going to sort of run a hypothetical. Yeah about like if you had to absolutely had to. What religion would you pick? Yeah in I've seen question little thought exercise like a gun to your head. Yeah yeah or sometimes just like really really like incentivized totally. I will say this I I think it's a cheat to choose something like flying spaghetti monster or something just because that's kind of a joke religion and it's like and it's already what we already are but I'm okay with cheating. I'm an atheist so like that certainly on the list really if it if we're going to count it. I would say for the size. Okay all right I think for this exercise I'm going to restrain refrain and and and hold off from anything like that. So easy and just already fits my my worldview. I went for real right okay. I had some very specific questions I I needed to find something that The overall sort of belief system not Too Objectionable Right. That was fairly benign right. No hate of of any group like yeah exactly. You can't be like lgbt negative and that was another one right like obviously they have to have at least a decent or evolving stance. Were a part of their community. That is cool with gay people like I was like you know because it's kind of a tall order because there's a lot of really cool interesting groups out there. Say like the Sikhs right one that I went and kind of reviewed. Exactly what they believed in everything and ended up not really settling on them. Even though they're I I really have a lot of respect for seeks like About like a very peaceful. There's the work they do. The the charitable work that they do with like feeding people Like I've got a lot of respect for him. I assure a pretty decent group Indian food. So that's awesome. I mean like if I was absolutely going to have to pick something I mean I would probably like it. Can you actually sign up and convert to be a secular Jew? Because I think probably the best fit for me right Judaism makes you jump through a lot of hoops to become a do. I don't know how many hoops I I would love for somebody to go through all of the stuff that you've got to go through to convert to Judaism an NBA own. I don't believe it I just wanted to be part of the group so Bu- as far as like you know like alive and living hassled by a religion. Not Not too bad right. Sure sure so. The one that I kind of settled in on. Do you want to hear? Yeah I'm all ears baby zoroastrianism okay all right yeah you and Freddie Mercury Man. Yeah exactly right. Their whole thing is good words. Good thoughts good. Deeds that right something like that sounds good words. Good thoughts good deeds and There they they kind of have to. There's two kind of major sort of strain like trains of thought I guess in or factions or whatever within their within their the religion right there's Kinda traditionalists and there's kind of a reform movement And the reforms side is pretty decent about homosexuality. Right okay The they're not overly like like they're apparently they're scriptures. Don't have a lot of commandments. It's just sort of this idea of this. Good words good thoughts and good deeds like that's really important and I was like okay. That's cool and then I was like Oh wait. A second dietary restriction right into something and I can tell you about that until they've got you hooked on. Yeah and so I was like okay. What what kind of restrictions do they have that way? They have one of. Perhaps the most awesome prohibitions of all time. They've specifically prohibited the killing and eating of offers. I guess man like the and it's like they have a whole bunch of things you can't eat but the but for offers you also can't kill them is really important right. Like I don't think it's like their sacred or anything but like they're just like this very special animal to them and so I love honors. I'm just like wow okay. I'm down with that you. Can't you can't dogs foxes vultures ravens? Howls monkeys like. This is no problem whatsoever. I am down at these dietary restrictions. Hard not hard to adapt any of these the only one they have a prohibition against eating sort of the young of any animal so the only thing there that would kind of I would run afoul would maybe be like Lamm. But it's not a major part of my diet like I don't really eat a tunnel. What about eggs does that? Count as the young. I I don't think so. but And then they have perhaps the all time best official burial technique ever. Have you ever heard of this? No it's called the tower of silence. Okay nice and instead of like so they have all these things that are apparently like death is like is dirty or for them right and they don't want to sully any of the really clean things like the earth and water fire. I guess is considered very sort of important So they don't want to burn a body they don't want to bury a body they don't want to send the out to sea or whatever right and so they developed this these towers that launched the body into space these big towers and then they have like a platform right and they put the body. They lay the bodies out on this platform and then vultures come and eat your body The Sun bleaches your bones and the bones disintegrate. This is. This is the thing and it's actually also sort of kind of they're they're kind of understanding of life and afterlife and all that kind of stuff. It's considered a final act of charity. Right okay. The person has given their body to feed the birds near. I don't aren't there native American tribes do that also. Maybe I don't know they're having a hard time in sort of as as the remaining was Oreo zero. Astronauts in the world have sort of moved to other countries outside of India An outside of their region Iran there were some old Zoroastrian can groups there too but they've had some difficulty with this official burial techniques. They've been experimenting with Electrical Cremation. Which so awful and What was the other one I can't Vada acid may be like they're trying they're trying some different things yeah But apparently there it's shrinking group. There's only like two hundred thousand of them left but it's like station group like they were. GonNa they go back monotheist before they're like Judaism before Christianity is. Lon basically made it out. They were like the first like monotheist and they also Came up with like the duality of like good and evil. The that's like two forces in the universe. Apparently that's really important to them. But then you see on site being borrowed in Christianity in Judaism. That's a cute way of putting in stolen outright. Yeah Yeah so kind of interesting group very cursory sort of like okay. Maybe that would be cool. Yeah I you know. I looked at a few things I I am I. I admit to there being an appeal to a there's a ufo cult called rail ism or Ralian Ism. That was started back in this in. I think in the seventies or something by a French dude who was a former like racecar driver and it's mostly a sex cult and I don't know there's some appeal there. I kinda love just the nuttiness of the whole thing I would. I would really get a kick out of going to parties and like somehow slipping it into the conversation that I believe in an a UFO cult. Like there's nothing stopping you now Dan you now. I know you know what I should. I should just join up now. I just joy in order to say that you belong to no no. It is so much better if you'd say if you actually join up it so much more than one thing that's really preventing me from joining this crew is is there simple Which is it's actually visually quite satisfying but symbolically the most horrifying tone-deaf thing. I've ever heard of in my entire life can which is that. It is a star of David interlocked with itself by a swastika. So I'm afraid I can't go along with you on that that's not so that's Kinda got ruined for me. I did think about Buddhism a little bit. I wouldn't be able to do Zen Buddhism because I went to the Zen Center here in Utah in Salt Lake. One time. And you've done it too right. No Oh I did and I sat there and I did. The whole chanting thing and that is not for me I May I into meditation like that. That I'm down with an a bunch of stuff but not really my main jam. I thought about the Community of Christ just because I there. That's the reformed Mormons. That's the other off the other major shoot K. accept the gays. They they've Ordained women they're pretty forward thinking but I just don't want dogmatic theology like I'm not. I'm not into Jesus. I'm not sure as fuck not into the book of Mormon like Lord so Yeah no I I think I have to go with. And this may sound like a cop out. Well I was GONNA say the temple the Satanic Temple. But I said right. I already set up front that like I wasn't including the the Spaghetti Monster and Satanic Temple basically it's not a parody of religion but it's like a religion started to stop religions things so that feels like a cheat I don't know man I. It's a tricky one. Just be a PISCOPO. Kalian could be just UNITARIAN. Just shut up and don't believe in anything that doesn't count. You can be a unitarian and then you know I have to say. What do you believe I believe in UNITARIAN ISM? Yeah that's it all unitarian like it's also a slight cop-out I they. They're totally cool with you being openly atheist if I remember correctly right well but what. They're not cool with is telling anybody what they're supposed to believe exactly other than like be nice. Yeah and here light a candle. Yeah Yeah let me let me tell you what Henry David. Thoreau had to say right. That's I don't know I R- I do like yeah. I like some of the non theistic religions but in the end I have to say I invented this game that we're playing currently now I hate it. What a stupid game. So here's the deal down. I'm GonNa give myself an a on my little report. Okay good you get what? What grade do you get down? I get an a plus. I've decided is I. Yeah that's that's the. That's the whole point of atheism is that you don't have to do this. You don't have to you show any rules. You had answers you participated but I'm GonNa give you be okay. Well it's those better than I did in most of my schooling. So I'll I'll take the BS that's fine all right. Well kids if you would like I want. I want to hear from our listeners. 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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 2)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

39:09 min | 8 months ago

Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 2)

"The typically thirty eight percent from the field. Not from three right from the field. Good but he is averaging a career high two threes game and it's free throws is that seventy percent hopefully gets it figured out. Just am I heard from his dad and Minot and not a lot to say. Try to warn him a very crucial. I tried to give him a heads up on this. Like you can't elbow gay martyr hands up. You need it. If his elbows perpendicular to his wrist back going es the only only guy ever seen shoot a basketball sidearm. I know and Look I. I'm not Klay Thompson but I know when it looks it looks right. It looks right when you watch a a guy like steph curry like. Yeah that's just about perfect when you watch a guy like Lonzo boilers wooed. That's got to be fixed. Any basketball coach worth is anything anything or her anything. We'll say wherever elbows pointing. That's where the ball is going. Yep anybody that's in the right there. Well we don't enough. We've said Enough Levy on bell likes to bowl. Apparently he really likes to pull after. He's not feeling well and really likes to bowl on a night before he decides not to play football game and he says not a big deal deal Sunday. We gotTA stop playing the. Is there anything wrong with the key. Did Not play in a game on Sunday and was out late bowling on Saturday night but he wasn't with the team and a team gave him of a valid. Excuse excuse by saying go home you're going to infect the team or whatever it's contagious I personally really would stay at home because I'm probably not filling running. Typically we don't typically what happens is when you're sick you try to get up. You don't WanNa lay around try to get up and do something is go from the bedroom living room. What as you as you go with but what I would say is is? Everybody handled things a little bit different. I wouldn't personally do it. Maybe he feels is such that he was had enough strength energy to go bowling. But if this is what I would say to you if you got enough damn strengthen energy to go bowling because I'm sure you had a few cocktails because it ain't you. Ain't you go bowling if you're not going to drink water. I Know Lady on enough hot water with lemon. I know that he probably had had a few so if he's good enough to do that he probably could have play. I've played with high fevers and flu. I've done all that for worse with no problem at all but of course I get it but to me. It's a bad look but at the end the day everybody's different man. I wouldn't have liked it as a team because I'm like they have dog. You couldn't gooden. It's one of those things it's but they can't do nothing. Doing there's only sixteen games. You would think that you would treat these games pretty significantly that if I finally get sixteen of these I'm GonNa make sure that short of my femur sticking out of my skin. I'M GONNA play if he had the flu or whatever it is and if it if it wasn't so debilitating that did he looked at it. Did he could go bowl. I get it's not climbing a mountain but if I'm sick enough to where I can't play in the NFL. I would think that. I'm bedridden and I can't I literally can't get up to go do it if I can get up to go bowl and hang out and nachos hotdogs you spill no question no question about it you you really should be able to play this over in the. NFL Ban is some of the funniest shut. The Maine's down. They think they want. Am Down GonNa go. You gotta go Larry Johnson from the Kansas City chiefs. I saw him in the club when he had a broken foot he was supposed to like a broken food dance and laugh. Let's get the Opinion Union of coach. Jack del Rio Sprint People's Hotline Morning Jack How are you good morning fellows big deal. That Levian was out bowling the night before not playing a game yes. It's a big deal. I it bothers it bothers the hell out of me And I you know to me. It's just it. It is a lack of judgment okay at minimum but to me on all three levels like as a fan. It's offensive as a teammate. Or as a former player it would be very offensive and as a coach. It really bothers me so I got a problem. Was it to me You know I would. I would have preferred to have something like this happened. Okay I feel good enough to be bowling so I'm GonNa go to the coach I'm GonNa go to the hotel. Check in get some sleet and tell him upgrade me because I think I can roll. I'm not going to be out night before the game that I'm that I'm that I can't play because I'm sick and out holy and that's just that's just I I I don't know that's just. I hope we're not at a point where that's even considered considered acceptable in any way. Jack when you look at the situation though you just said it so I was going to ask You lady on or any he player for that matter could reach out. Because you're not you're not technically the act to the day of the game right so he could reached out and said I'm feeling good enough to the plan. The Game You could've activated him what it wouldn't have been too late. Yeah I you know. I'm not sure technicality to me. Somebody's sick I mean that's a that's a put them as as doubtful. Wait until Game Day to put them out. I mean there's no reason to rule them out So I mean we had a guy made Rodney huts passing a kidney stone and he played for me in Oakland. Okay I'm I mean it's it's unbelievable you know some some of the commitment. I I've watched Charles Woodson. Okay you know. I watched him with an ankle that he could barely walk on. He played I watch Michael Crabtree. What same kind of ankle against Chicago? They got some awful and and he refused to come out tape. It up kept playing. I mean to me examples of guys does that. Give it up their teammates. Give it up For the team for the and for the ability to play those sixteen games that you get to that's all you get promised each year and And do everything you can to get their man and and to me. That's just poverty Jack. Won't if you were Adam gays. What would you say to levy on belt? Well if I was Adam gave first of all we had our team in the hotel so there was like out for those that weren't playing for whatever reason they work the plane so I I don't understand that to begin with okay. Maybe he just runs it a little definitely. Yeah but but You know so it starts there be different from the get go But if you are the head coach to me that doesn't happen because you have all your players in the hotel tonight for the game. There's no reason not to unless they they all go home and then that's pretty brave. If you're doing that or you have Adam gays appearing to be undermined by one of his players in Dallas. You have have a coach who appears to be undermined by his owner and some of the comments that he's made what do you make of what's going on down there. And what are your expectations for Wendy faced around. Because they're in similar situations the term desperation for the postseason. Yeah should be a good game. It's kind of an elimination game I think Dallas can't lose it and still get in rams cannot. I don't believe I think the ram chapter went out Or hope for an awful lot of help but I know if they went out they can get there so it should be a great game you know will Dallas wake up. That's the question because the ramp woke up a couple of weeks ago and they played. They played some football. The last couple of weeks so Is it too late for them. I don't know it's good to see and we'll Dallas wake up. So that's that's the big story this week to me. Who can wake them up? Does does does Jason Garrett him have a juice to wake tomorrow. Yeah yeah that's that's a good question. I mean you know the point about listening. I think you know the owner. You know we've talked about that. I mean everybody has has. That's the thing about it when you're talking about there's there's there's there's plenty of different ways you can look at it. I think there's responsibility throughout the building. It's not just the head coach It's not just players not just the owner. I think there's a combination at work work most successful organizations and And they just don't seem to have that going and So what what creates that spark that they made Not sure can it get within the locker room or not. It hasn't so far. So you know the Jason still have a little something left and I don't know but you know he's got. He's got a couple more opportunities to to answer. Find a way to get into the playoffs. I as I say to everybody. Look you. Don't get style points for getting you need to get into the playoffs and then get hot and so you know. It's not ridiculous to think that somebody could do it now. We all like to have things that show me right. Show me some some reason to have hope and you just haven't seen a lot you know with with the cowboys they're just they just haven't really at any point. Anything more than a lot of hype. The coach Jack Del Rio joining us here on the morning. Show Jack when you look at the Rams and you look at the Dallas Cowboys. Have the cowboys had the Philadelphia. Eagles put pressure on the rams based on their victory last week now and they put that pressure on Dallas Alice. Therefore the rams have to go in and play lights out because Dallas certainly has to continue to play lights out because phillies right up against him. Yeah you know I I guess to a certain extent but I mean philly wasn't like really impressive. They pulled it out but it's not. It's not impressive. It's not the impressive. Part is more about is more about them being on the heels of Dallas to win the Division in Dallas is going to play hard against the ramp so therefore the rams can't afford to have any sort of letdown. Yeah whatever to me whatever. Those teams need to tap into to get them to play better and play inspired and and and be motivated into play well and have some focus go out there with some energy and get after it discussed tapping into that whatever. It is You know because They have a window. I mean all three of those teams the eagles the cowboys Alba's the rams they all have this window and now which WHO's GonNa come through it you know and And they've all three kind of had their moments this here where we're whereas fans are sitting back wondering are they ever GonNa get it together. I feel like the rams have come on the last couple of weeks to me. Looks more like what we all expect it. You know when this started. So let's see if they keep it going cowboys haven't done it yet. They haven't they haven't been inspired. I mean they beat them some bad teams early in the year convincingly but other than that. They haven't really been very very good coach. Jack del Rio joining us here on the morning show in the sprint people's hotline coach. We haven't talk to you since the announcement from C.. Klay Hilton is going to return as a coach. Were you surprised to see him. Come back I was not surprised And I think it's a good move You know I'm I'm I'm happy for him to get another year to me The soda they could they could make that happen better. And and and then I think the recruiting part has to kicking into high gear They've got some things they have to address. But you know look I. I'm we all want to be in the college playoffs. You know the teams we we want them to be in the playoffs. That'd be dominating and all that okay but You know to me. That's that's what you want. That's what the goal should be reprogram like southern cal but I think it was a good move The new ad came in size. It up better decision. I liked the decision. I like the fact that it got don on any more I would have had a problem with it. I just think you leave the guy twisted out there and hurts your recruiting so to me. It's like all right everybody on board. Let's go and and Let's get after it. Looks good at recruiting. I appreciate your optimism but I'm sure you're well aware of the fact that a lot of Seo Lam's don't share that optimism is anything they can say can help pass this up at this. Point is all do now. I think it's all do I. I don't think the talking. I don't think anybody would. The pom-poms is going to make it. Make it better. If those feel the way they feel they're gonNA feel that way and To me you know when when you have that vibe I around. You're not helping. You're not helping anything. So you know to me Get onboard support program. The support it you have to do is think and and to me. You know I I I said it earlier you know talking about eight four nine four It's not like the standard. It's the low end of where we want to be. But it's but it's certainly It's not the kind of. It's not a train wreck. Okay and And some of the things that they did with those young quarterbacks what they did offense we are good and And so now it's more about playing football winning anymore gates you know the big the big loss to be the one that hurts. That's probably the one that stings the most looking back at it all anyway. That was the one that you know goes into. That category of ship happened But but the on that I thought they were pretty solid. Jack Actor real joins US every single day. We'll talk to you next week coach. Thanks Sir all right so clay Helton is here he staying. We heard Jack likes that. He's coming back for another year but they decided not to keep a former coach a while ago. Because of what we'll take next Chris. Hardy pretty good pretty good. which bow you've got I? Walk is in the holiday bowl all say. Hey come out to this song. What if they are now says see? It's not what I'm all in now. Would you be more all in if perhaps ed or Doron wasn't in Lsu. If let's back up for people. I think most people understand. There's very quickly Edwards. Ron was on the staff at USC. He was very successful as a recruiter. As a defensive line coach he left to become the head coach at old miss and then didn't work out there he came back to SC and then was the head. Coach of the interim head coach for a period of time and had success. Did well decided. The administration decided decided that he was not the guy that they let him leave. They did not hire him to become the head coach and Bruce Feldman has an interesting theory that you may have heard somewhere else you know yesterday yesterday or the day before about why he's not here. I think what you have is a guy who's continue to evolve for you made a huge jump from when he was at Ole miss to USC. I think he's made made a significant jump after that. But I really think it's an issue you have a lot of people at USC especially back in that Pat Haden regime. Who couldn't get past? What does Ron sounded like? They didn't listen to the players that and listen to the staff I think at the end of the day you had guys who are not a country club guy I think he can relate to just about anybody you see. I mean. The governor of Louisiana was waiting outside. Lock you can like. He's very street smart and I think that's one of the things that made him a really good recruiters. I think he can can read people very well. I don't think Pat Haden. Who was the decision maker at the time? That's just not the Kinda guy he he he wanted and I just don't I think he could get past it and it's not you know it's interesting was that I think there were five or six guys who are old. USC guys who are on that staff. And I spend much time around Marcus Allen who USC grade ozone and he became close he spoke to the team last week against before Texas am game mortgage. was there on the sideline John on Robinson legendary coach. WHO WAS A? USC is now a part of their program. And I think you see so many guys who understand what does Ron is way. Better within Pat Haden ever did. And that's why. US's where USC is right now in Lsu is the number one seed going into play. So that's Bruce Feldman on richeisenshow talking about how he's he's not a country club guy way school we're talking about is the fact that Ed Orange Iran sounds different. It's that Edwards Ron. I mean look I know. We played a lot because it's funny but listen to him. Ask big recruiting service order. That walking into a southern California country club was not going to sit well with SC people according to Pat. Haley's you know so funny that I've been around coach. John Robinson is like one of my closest deers. I mean he he is as your guy. He's my guy. He made me football what I was in in what I am the day. He gave me all this advice and all the different things it I've seen coach Robinson to a degree in post games. We didn't have social media and we couldn't do it but I've seen coach. Jr Do that it posts where he just you know we. He always beat them. blinky blink blinks it. Just I've you know so I could see high him in order to riot can connect i. It's you know it. At the. He ended day Bruce Feldman hit on some things in his story. It's almost like he heard you. Travis it on our show talking about this some time ago go about the way coach always view based on his appearance in his voice so many years and so many times in sports people hire guys based on what they look like what they sound like the appearance for many years coaches couldn't get head coach jobs in the NFL claims to big. Yeah they like like he's a former player. Well yeah he's sloppy looking in which makes no sense a good coach coach period. There's there's a line where it makes them look like. He was wearing his dad's suit. Yeah Dr Ben mcadoo symbol boat. Because they're not good coaches what does build spellcheck like Bill Belichick Hill. Like the second coming of Tom. Brady radio ill bill and look like that until he had put a couple in. The bank was the coach. Mike McCarthy didn't look like could could you queue model but Mike McCarthy looked like he was supposed to be. Have you seen Andy Reid and Andy. Reid has gotten a little heavier over the years. Back at Santa Claus agreed. Also he's wearing the gear gets tucked in. He's heavy but that's my guy guy but what I'm say- though when you look at why why oh didn't get hired. Here's one of the main reasons. A lot of people have been talking about this over time. I'm forty seven years old. I started hanging hanging around. USC At about seven years old seven eight years. Old Steve Lopes been there since then. He's been there. Yeah Yeah and he's basically been running athletic department in being around the whole situation with coach always up to be the head coach. Some of those guys. They're elected to jump on it and convinced pat hating him. This is a better higher Sark. That's to keep their job because they and this is what it is. I call it what it is with all of that in mind though Pete Pete Carroll kind of checked every box Pete Carroll had the rap Pete Carroll had the right look people could walk into this country clubs that we're talking about and make USC people feel a hundred percent comfortable with everything about him. Kodjo whether or not Bruce Feldmans report. What about Pat Haden Pat Eight and felt that that wasn't going to work so they had to go to different direction if Lopez there if the Pat Haden of the world are still influential in deciding? Who's going to go? Where air with football do you need to flush the whole thing? And not the obviously plus alumni flush the idea of we need a guy. That's hey how you doing joke that we always make elbow in. Yeah right do you kind of go into it with a you know what this guy that has a cajun accent this guy. That's got a gravelly voice this guy. That doesn't look exactly like we want him to look. He's probably the best guy rich. Gifting Nick Sabin Nick. Sabin would be perfect saving. Got Old me voice. He's got Komo Nick Sabin but if you just a gravity seven he's got the Cajun accent to it is it is. But it's been around for a long time and I've known bruce for a longtime. Bruce was at the magazine. When I started to magazine he did a book? That was touching Eddo Giron. Back when we work together and like the mid two thousand. so He's been around his guy for a long time and he's heard a lot of people talk about it Voice for a long time. We knew that Oh miss. They parodied his voice to student. Campus did a parody of his voice. I'll give voice an occasion. Accent is a thing but I will say this. If you listen to Bruce. Listen listen to what you've been saying Travis. Some of the same criticism about head. How around look and why? He wouldn't be a good fit. Some of the same arguments they made about African American Erkin head coaches about. That's not the quite look that we're used to work for us. Well Tony Dungy Guy Subarea. Solas Mike Tomlin ended the day with orange. Look I look like you give away at a national championship while we still trying to figure out how to beat Iowa and the Damn holiday ally the commander but they can't be the first thing you do. They can't be the reason you don't do it. If he checks. Go very quickly Go back to win the rams hired. Sean McVeigh you've heard less. I mentioned this. The only reason that they were a little little bit hesitant to pull the trigger on when the interview him was because he was young. Yeah that was the only example but they also said if this is the only reason we're not doing on it. Let's do it. Let's go get that. That's not a good enough reason to walk away or Zaranj. Voice is not a good enough reason to win and they gonNA write the checks regardless of question question macy gray guided grain a bed. LSU looking for money. We can't do that off. LAKER start a road trip with one of the best doers they ever had but with both of them make the all time starting five final next all right so we were talking about the great duos in Laker history and obviously the Lakers have one of the all time best duos that they've ever had right. Now Anthony Anthony Davis and Lebron James and as they close in on this record for most consecutive road wins. Of course. You'RE GONNA start comparing with that team in nineteen seventy two the one thirty three games in a row and were often running to great laker teams of all time. which brings you to the greatest starting five bench player coach in Laker history? That we're GONNA put it together L.. Z. We're going to pick our draft first to see who gets to go first. It is Chris. A snake draft made to snake draft so whoever picks third we'll also pick fourth breath and we'll go back the other way so L Z is got the ping pong balls in the hopper. Draw your first name L. Z.. who gets the first big wimpy? No we don't know we gotta draw out of the Hat uh-huh here we go here. We go that was history number one pick will be. Elsie is unfurling the banner. You're GonNa think this is Ray. L Z Z. Alright right so eligible to vote on bills e number one and oh it's traffic number. Three you get three and four four draught you go first. You have the number one pick. You will select who with Lebron James Lebron. Where are you going to put Lebron on your team He's my point guard. Lebron James is your point guards. All right I'm GonNa Take Magic Johnson with my first pick. And where are you placing. I'm GonNa put Magic Johnson and the point guard spot as well so Lebron and magic or the first two players off the board key you get the next two picks shacking Kobe. Okay Shack honestly. We're putting the center. Yeah they're they're pretty good. Koby want him in your two or three. I don't know what I'm GONNA do. Haven't decided it depends on. What do I put as Pinkas my coach? But that's your the coach. That's a good point all right so we're going to put golf. Put Kobe down in this spot right now. So now it is back to me. I'M GONNA TAKE I don't know yeah. Kareem was pretty good. I'll take Kareem as as my center so I get the Cap at my at my five. L Z you. Get next to you guys get everybody. Everybody was Anthony Davis. Okay and you'd like to put him where exactly is my four K.. A. D. is your four you get to And then I'm going to bring in Phil Jackson who coach Nice. I liked that I liked that all right. So you get your coach at Phil Jackson that brings it back to me. So we got James Worthy left Jerry West left we've got wilt Chamberlain left who I already have a center. I I don't need wilt at this point I'm GonNa Take Jerry West and make him my shooting guard. I'M GONNA put him in my number two so I got Jerry West right there. So I have Kareem as the emblem magic and Jerry West. I got pretty good team so far key you have Shaq and Kobe and the next two picks going to them shacking Koby. I'm GONNA take Parilli K. K.. And I'm going to take James Big game worthy good enjoyed all right. So L Z. You've got Lebron. Anthony Davis and Phil Jackson. You need to have The the next two picks all right so my six man is going to be Lamar Odom. Okay all right. So that's the first bench. See See what I'm doing. I got a size thing. Yeah Yeah you got a big team. Yeah yeah so that means my five is going to be wilt. ooh Nice draft. Dirt is all right so so my next. I'm GonNa take as my kind of quasi four Powell okay. I'M GONNA take as my four cure him with Anthony Davis UC. How can how can do some stuff not out there? How can do out there yes he can't he got the next to you? You can fill out your team. You need a power forward in a point. It's a snake draft the power forward in the power forward and a point on. We'll take Vanessa was my point K and I'm GonNa Take Take Call Malone as my power choice. So are you still need a six man. You have one more guy to go so we'll come back to that in a minute so it's back to me. I'm going to take my six man I'm GonNa take my blues overload ass out there right right case. He Losing R. J. R. Jerry talking about why he was with the Lakers the players. I take my six-man my first guy off the the bench I'm GonNa Take Michael Cooper I feel pretty good about coop. Play D. WHO's been knocked down to shot L. C.. You have a shooting guard and a small Ford left. Do you have to fill out so much shooting guard by Scott not bad three point shooter. Plays defense tough and will catch your body to at the rim. Don't forget that forgot about that. He's an athlete athlete. And then my my I'm gonNA use Eddie Jones Eddie. Jones has small forward in Philly and a house as my small four or six man. I need a small Ford before you take your six man. I need I'm going to put him. He might be a little under size there. But I'm going to do it anyway. I'M GONNA put Elgin Baylor in there. I'm GONNA sneaky there. I'M GONNA put Elgin Baylor there that rounds out my eighteen key. You need somebody off the bat. I need a six off bent. You need a guy who's the first one in Latin okay. I need a guy who was aggressive. WHO's the number one pick in the NBA draft champions? Taking Michael Nice very good very good so very quickly. Here's everybody's team L Z picked first and put together the following team. Lebron James Byron Scott Eddie Jones Bongbong. Anthony Davis Davis Wilt Chamberlain Lamar Odom coming off the bench and they are coached by Phil Jackson coach. I need to select a coach now. Magic Magic I'm trying to think honestly I WANNA do. There's no I'm going to take. It's not a great run here. Not a great run here but it was a really good head coach and it was only here very briefly Tony Rudy Rudy two time. NBA Champion inspiring expiry. So that tells these team Phil Jackson as head coach key nick. Van Exel at the point Kobe Worthy Mailman Shack. Michael Michael Thomson See Pat Ryan. That's pretty good. Pretty good point. I got a real point. Zero two three four five and I got a hell of a coach. And here's my squad. Got Magic at the point. I've got Jerry West taken shot and they can't go elgin Baylor as my three. I've got POWs my four. That's probably the saucer house can be in the hall of fame. Jones's nickname excellent. I've got Kareem in the middle. I've got Michael Cooper coming off the bench and I've got rudy. Tea Is Michael. Got Four in one two three four five. I've got six walk five hundred friends. Who Wins? Who Wins Raj? What's all mcchord? Well let's go to scarlet. We'll start with team. I like the size. You do have rebounds. Are we playing by today's rules or the sixties you're playing you. You can play by play the three point game. 'cause broad Eddie Jones. Ad Odem looking roster along the three point shot. Yeah well I think what would have been able to do the three in today's game. I don't think that would have been an issue. A key shots. I dig your team. I'm not sure you see you have a true point. I'm not sure if you snuck into pick. I don't not a true point on your wicked score any dish. He can Gardini count to do some work on Nick on the team. Travis team I the sneaky picky got in there with the bill. You guys always forgetting about today yesterday just looking at the NBA Today. And it didn't attend to forget about the team of yesteryear and I do believe West. The logo would be able to adjust to this game. Today's game so the winner in a in a six six game series. I'll go with it. Hit The music Roger. I WanNa hear from Fan media social. Get some votes some votes and I can win twice. That'll be perfect. Take it or shake it next all right right so we're still going back and forth. Hundred teams are all time Laker team. This is good. We'll circle back to it because someone Jones. It's a freaking Boehner. The quick was the salad boy. He got no body. Don't I'm not looking for him guard. I'm looking for him to play the point. I come come on on social media key. You might as well have taken Gary Payton come back. You took the glove. We'll come back to the body. Let's go to Take shake it very quickly. How about this this? This was Troy Aikman earlier saying this about whether or not he'd WanNa be. GM specifically taking a front office role with the Dallas Cowboys. This is Troy Aikman. I doubt it. I think that's a real long shot. I believe it's unlikely that Jerry will ever bring anybody in. That can help football team in that regard. Just because he's been real stubborn Auburn and steadfast in that. He's the one in charge. I think in a lot of ways until that changes. This team is going to have some problems. Intil Jerry relinquishes control of the football ball the cowboys will never win a world championship. Take it or shaken. Jake not see. I don't I don't think that Troy knows he's been there just like I haven't troy's dowd dowd in he was a longtime cowboy hall of Famer Superbowl Winning quarterback. I don't look at it as Jerry. Jerry does gets a little tension in the media and that's it's really because as far as putting a team together we'll clay Stephen Jones Jerry. Junior big Jerry have done a tremendous job assembling talent talent. Talent is not the issue the issue is getting in front of a microphone until he decides that he can't get in front of a microphone anymore. That's the problem Italian. Not The problem. Think about Ezekiel Elliott. Dan Brown throwing but undermining the people that are in charge of cultivating. The talent has to just bring in a strong headed coach. You got to bring in a guy that can't don't pay attention to what he's saying he was. He chirps bills around the bill. Guitar back or not. Pay attention to it. Same thing with Jimmy to the point where Jimmy couldn't deal with anymore and that's what you have to have all right. Let's go to the next one. Here's Bill Belichick having a conversation about the l'Ouest allegations revelations that his team in a production company got caught recording the Cincinnati bengals coaches. I have no idea what about uh on them. You know I got an explanation. I think the organization released that explanation or something similar to that. And that's really all I know about. Have you spoken to anyone. Patriots content team more anger regard Involved in the incident. Yeah really focused on get ready for the bengals here. I think all of that is being handled internally or you know however it's being handled I dunno I I know involvement in this and knowledge of it and I really don't don't have any idea what what exactly is going on. I I can tell you that we've never as a coaching staff. And my personally I've never used any any video footage at all that those production people have don than what's shown on on public television or something like that but we don't have anything to do with what they do so I really don't have much knowledge of the situation at all considering during the long record of Patriots misdeeds the. NFL should take bill bell check at his word that they were not cheating. Take it or shake it okay. Well they certainly should take not take him at his word but they haven't gotten concrete evidence that they were cheating this time around. So you stuck. I mean you kind of stuck with it. I have to believe that independent of the New England patriots. There was A video company or something that they hire to shoot video at the Browns Bengals Games. And let's be real here. I understand that you know. Oh they're creature habit. They've done before all those sorts of things. It's the bengals man you. If you told me it was Seattle then I would be sitting there going or the rams is or or just do it every week and this week was the bengals right. Yeah yeah but I don't think that they had there. I don't think the Zale Cecile are you. There are billionaires that I get that. There's people that do things that they shouldn't be doing and they know it's wrong. I understand that they don't need to do it right. People go out and do things you are you sit back there. You go Y L he would what is he doing that for. I get that but it just. It just doesn't seem I don't know it just doesn't seem right to me. There's a lot riding on for me to believe that they will go out there and do this a second time around the dude who who is always breaking his Diet never lose weight and you come over his house in his chocolate over his face. And it's like going. I didn't do nothing patriots while you're looking at me and I don't want to be one of those people because everybody else don't like the Patriots jumping on in his saying I'm not GonNa be that guy. WanNa throw this in there. You know how I'm really you know. I am particularly suspicious about this incident in particular bill. Bell check was talking a lot about that bill. Belichick is gone. Twenty years with were on Cincinnati fanatic. And I'm not talking about who you'd be. We saw did with Antonio Brown with with Aaron Hernandez and all of these other. Things were big deals that he wouldn't give you anything other within a MONOSYLABIC grunt. He's well I I never saw any of this and I would never about that and I. It is by Bill Belichick standards. He absolutely can't stop. Stop talking and and by the way kind of sounds like human being he sounds like a real person which means he's digging hard to try to deal with this very Tom. Brady's these phone is not enough to do very out of character for bill. Belichick Lamar Jackson is dealing with a quad injury. He wants to play against the jets tomorrow night. On Thursday night football the ravens should take charge and sit him down and get them ready for the postseason. Take it or shake shack again. We want to watch them. You know they're playing games with this horizon. It's the jets. Something's wrong with him really. What's wrong with him is quaters boogeyman pickle as eight point? Look picky boo boo rush. Four hundred you think he's fine. I ain't nothing wrong with that. Dude man he wouldn't be up to have impressed convert the money reclaimed. If something was wrong with him non-roman Cam you answer. That's not what I see. I say I said there was nothing wrong with Hamed beginning of the year and nothing was wrong with him. It had been a year. He kept playing all said he re injured his ankle but he play he was healthy. He reinjured so there. There was nothing wrong with them. Suck Assed Jackson for second earl. Thomas says that the referees are not doing a good enough job protecting him. Lamar Jackson deserves better pressure. Protection Action from the referees ticket or shake shake. He's H humble. He hit that's part of it or you know that. Because if he was on the other team you'll be trying to knock the snot out his nose. Have you ever seen that before. Little bubble doesn't feel good. I seen a do get hit on our sideline Tampa the leave it at that. I don't need any further description. The dodgers do not get Garrett Cole so what is their next stop. That's coming up next.

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Conan O'Brien

Never Not Funny

1:47:40 hr | 1 year ago

Conan O'Brien

"Hey jimmy pardo here. Never not funny right around the corner with our guest. <hes> classic never not funny with conan o'brien. I i gotta talk about this man. He we all love the summer except when it comes to asleep in the heat too hot to sleep. That's a song by survivor <hes> from too hot to sleep album now. Listen those guys might not have written that song had they had some my sheets. You're listening. I don't know why you felt like j. Transmogrify into jay leno. That's a word you made up and i i was real work. Can we check on transmogrify won't even ask him to spell spell. Please kidding dantonio. Yes a blue foam coming out of your computer screen the first time he actually ever looked hurt kidding. Please for the love of god this okay good this whole. This whole room is toxic now. Everyone's yelling at everybody. I listen. I know you're mostly concerned. <hes> mister felker about the levels <hes> he doesn't care what we say as long as it's an and even tone bragging to risk blowing out your machine here for it because i believe that i am being judged. I i see a your is looking at a wild animal. Let me just say what i was doing. I was just picturing you and seth green very small man's who also has red hair in my lap <music>. Some people came over and said we didn't know that there was a ventriloquist here at the steakhouse and i said you know what that's hurtful to him. It's hurtful to me and then i drew lines down on this. I am seth green. Yes yes yes yes seth green's could have to get together to to make one year and i mean that <hes> spiritually spiritually. I mean that i don't disagree with you. I mean he's a horrible man. You had that dinner. I can't imagine anything worse is bad guy. What did you get what what are you doing out what i did. I'm not kidding. I'm gonna take a swing and i swing away swing away and i'll tell you up in powell. <hes> i like. This is what i like. I'm comfortable with conflict high kidding jesus. We're gonna swear i won't i won't do it. I didn't know this kind of show <hes> <hes> i won't do it. I won't do it. We're not saying what are you. What are you say you won't do. I won't do it. Who's who's arguing cameras around not going to do it. <hes> we can each maker indecision about swearing all where nuns were no. We should be on the same page okay so well. I think we should be in the same page age. I don't want to anger him. Close enough to be your over there. You're doing okay. I'll do. We know they don't want to swear you sound ridiculous. I'm a bad swear. I'm not good at when i get angry. I do it incorrectly. Say you shitter okay you. You ask fuck. You know it's all stuff that doesn't really you know and it doesn't work it. Doesn't it doesn't book aspects wanna use rush. Your mother yeah spoke from the stage. I do want to work for you loves it. I'll tell you something. <hes> modify goes blue. I'm going very blue opening lately. I i i'll tell you i'm gonna soundproof booth backstage. It's like the game show twenty one. I'm in sequestered so you're cheating and it's fixed yeah and is cheating. Yes his favorite happening here. We go now but listen. I <hes> do you gotta. Do you do what you gotta do. What was your point. <hes> what do we what do you get that morton's. You get <hes> t-bone rabbi. Oh good good. I'm probably got back here. We've got no. I got the fillet last time because it was healthier. It's the lean salinas cut of beef yeah do. I wish that i had gotten the saint louis leads. I cut to beat this other thing and he knows his. You're you gotta get the bony and rabbi. Oh you something. I'm doing my roseanne impression. You gotta get the bone in rabbi and i wanna martini dry with have jumped up and slaps diet coke and get me a whatever that piece of meat right there. I don't know i've never been to morton's. Do they. Actually bring the cut out the they do that thing where they bring the cutouts also. It's meat rotting. It's it's dumping me rotten meat just it just tell me what i'm fine looking. Look in and go into what's that what are you doing. What did you do elliot's that he just did. The doing we restore brian here is that what is your talk when the person he didn't talk he made a gesture checking your elliot. He's yelling at jimmy. What do you think's gonna happen. Have you open your mouth. I don't know i will say this. I like that's gonna say likes asian. Oh no you know what i like. I like the <hes> i like. Don't don't engage him do not match koby age and when they rub the cough what is it. The coffee grinds on it. It's cool man. That's amazing. That's very good. You don't wanna do and i'm not going to follow up on this. I'm just saying it's like a good guy on the air. We're gonna go out and get steaks <unk> sometime. It's on me but hey. I'll just take some me but later on this will be talked about how that guy real. He's a real acis that that died in the nineteen twenties are going to that guy when he's irish god. Oh that guy really got <hes> you know. He's a real good up. He's a square deal that chap and so so yeah. We're going to go out for stakes again. Not happening and it's going to be on me not happening at this dinner. That's not going down the flame. The thing is you want the fat in there i do. It's more flavorful but it nauseates me fat. No oh so why why have a stake then why don't you that you want some celery in the corner leaving an animal. I mean <hes> <hes> rabbit. See no fat in it. Fatty gives it the flavor. I'm well aware of. I've got a a lot of food issues. You know this. I didn't know that you're foolish to that extreme. <hes> i expect you remember every conversation obviously yourself yeah <hes> i've got some food issues and specifically with meat so i do not like by corned beef has to be extremely lean and very bland so the idea of wait fat bothers. You grosses me out right. You said yourself. You've got the fillet fillet just to be healthy but do do. I enjoy the taste of it more. We're no if no one was looking. Flay butterfly delicious awesome holidays birthdays some kind of nays in there. Okay you get no purview. We've had an awkward position of having to do this. Just weird remembering pays your bills. He's our guest pays. The bills just do this. Wait a minute here. Okay pay your bills. You pay his bills. You know it's <hes> it's the trickle down. Let's be. I'm not gonna get into financials with you. This is where you really make the dough. Wasn't it yeah. I'm just some side project. That enrages me. It's a hobby again. I'm enraged. I feel judge. I've made it clear judge in rage. I deserve ray. I we'll take care of it. Let's talk to ross you. Try and talk to them. I can't he's like jackie. Mason wrote money he <hes> you know years ago. <hes> i worked with this is a great jeff ross quote <hes> i worked with <hes> we worked at the chimpanzee andy and i on the show oh and if you don't know chimpanzees are very difficult. Violent people think they're cute. You put them in a bean and it's fun. They're they're there and i remember <hes> we worked with like the third time we get to schedule. There was a chimpanzee and it hit me and pushed andy and it was mean vicious and finally i just turned to jeff ross and said you know chimps are decks and saw flash forward to then jeff that stuck in jeff ross head then jeff during the downtime jeff took a after you're the january twenty second debacle. <hes> jeff ross took a trip to africa with a friend of his <hes> who also happens to be my agents to rosen and they were out in his beautiful savannah and and they are watching gorgeous animals go by and all of a sudden like a a chimp went skiing i and jeff rouse with no irony turned to rosen said gyms or dick's and ends rick frozen didn't know what the hell he was and he texted at twenty seven jeff ross just out of nowhere chimps are dicks and i said it's just something we talked about three years ago. Jeff ross men a few you words he does say them. You quickly got them. <hes> jeff rossi executive producer of conan o'brien's. I'm sorry i didn't coin that and not i'm always talking about comedian jeffrey rossio now <hes> view on that in <hes> that would have been in iambic pentameter. Had you been talking this year would have been a celebrity roast poems and roasts. Yes <hes> <hes> jeff rusty. Who's the ep why shake hands with every day and he's a gentleman. It's good man <hes> i like him. I like him. Were you asking my opinion yup. Jeff <hes> is a is a here's a you know we <hes> jeff has his own take on life because he's a he's not a showbiz guy. It's funny he's in show business but he seems he's immune to flattery and tomfoolery yeah. I like about him and he comes from. He was the tour manager for <hes> molly hatchet. I believe yes s and paul's not paul simon. Diana ross diana ross. I i suppose signed because they both did concerts in central park. That's how i came out simon around the same area i and he c._d._c. C._d._c. and then <hes> somehow got involved in comedy. Yes i sleep through lorne michaels. I think somehow or someone else got him minded with t._v. Show he ended up working lorne than used him for kids in the hall <hes> right and then <hes> lorne introduced him to me in nineteen ninety-three it has all the madness and the first incarnation here right here. We go and it's gonna be right. What's what's that that quotas up there where it's right in the middle i look at that right. I swear to god. I didn't see that <hes> subliminal incredible where the human mind works was anyway to supplement subliminal made no sense. No insurance wouldn't have said shirts this supplemental affleck so i still don't understand at this out and there's a lot of editing that goes on right. This'll be something when you're gonna come most of this good <hes>. We're going to get down to just me asking jacob they told i'd like to hear what you were told that this would be heavily edited and processed and may never actually they're not gonna. This is just a ruse to to get a conversation station go. I love reuss. I love that word nice. It's nice reuss smith. I use a lot of different words. Tram baltimore sham so close so close. You know what i most of the words i say are real words and it's terrible children always around saying don't give me the old cincinnati giacomo and they they're learning all this stuff and they're not real words. It's not gonna help them in life. <hes> i call most people chop had that chapa what's up chapa. I don't bother to learn people's names urologist all just chopper to me right now and we're never getting that steak. That's never gonna happen but you know what we're going to have. The time of our lives grates on me. That's going to be magical. Title nine guys will be good night. What if what we would do is stay shop but just wait it. Stay shops and just wayne smith takes out castle. Sorry you're the one that's arena wordsmith here. Chevy those tones. If we all went to a steakhouse and you didn't show. Would you send your regards now what you know what the waiter would <hes> have a waiter come over with. They don't do anymore. I have a winner with the phone and he handed to you and make a a big show of you then talking about but i wouldn't be on anyway. No way relates to dial paid the guy i by the way i want you to now find. We're gonna have lunch in the next week and do that because it would be the greatest joke in the history of comedy that strong pick it up. There's a dial tone and then and then across across the street your car explodes. Oh what do you think we're gonna cars today <hes> and boy harping on this <hes> i <hes> i i did a <hes> a joke at <hes> jay's expense in the warm up and i said one day there's gonna be a spy and then i'm gonna be walking by car and an old jalopy is gonna run me down and he's going to crank it up and then and then rummy down. I'm going to get hit with a twenty thousand dollar car. Wait a minute. That's not a lot of money and i had to go twenty seven thousand dollar car. It was like one of those things where you try to go high and then you came here and then <hes> but there was such a good crowd today they went with all that oh yeah they they like they like <hes> you know said crop the most subtle down. You know weren't that great but i mean they were fine but they were <hes>. I'm glad you had a good time <hes>. I don't know where they were. They were there much beyond is a couple of nights jay. You know i come out. I get them hot and then you know. Drop the ball but that's going to happen from time to time. You're doing a lot of show oh yeah. I think you're john the cooler jobs. That's what that's how i look at the top of the show my job. My job is to cool. Mom is that right you heat them up by cooling down and then the cement hardens and we've got a nice building terrible. I don't even know that means but the point is <hes> this is. I'm doing free in <hes> so why should think space. You'll get your twenty bucks story about it. You'll get your twenty like every other guest. I us <hes> what's that oh yeah. I think the audience know does yeah yeah. We made it clear. I think you you kept it a secret. What the amount was for a while. Yeah yeah well then. There are stakes on me. How much is it <hes>. You're gonna get twenty from each of us. No that'd be weird each the time sir. I won't accept it won't accept that i wanted to go to a charitable cause <hes>. I'm just saying that on the air with the twenty twenty bucks. I wanted to go to a good cause. Is it helps children i want. I want the twenty. We're getting at stake but i'm looking forward to all of us. Getting together can be nice day steak and money for charity. I i want my money. No stake table three <hes>. It's functional finish your thought and then we take a break and we would just take the break. That was my you know rampant up something i think i was and then i don't know what happened. I don't know what you derail yourself. Did you roll myself or was. I derailed both are very good. Possible crowd tonight great crowd or so hot they are there. Were then <hes>. I think the magical thing about comedy is is. There's this communal intelligence when people know that something's really you've just come up with something and i've never understood it but human beings consent so they're seeing you in the moment. Come up with something right right and they're really enjoying. That's to me the the the the addiction that we're all going back for all the time. Is you have those moments out there. Where you just come. I'm up with something and they're right there. It's symbiotic. They're watching you go to the next level and they're they're helping you and it says little dance that happens and sometimes plays <music> out eight set for over eight sec it's done but it was great and then i think it's the pursuit i want that again. I want that again. I'll do a crabby shitty t._v. to get that one more what time and that's what keeps me going you know. Why did you become an old man with a cigar when you have that dream talk with all my heroes are very very old man george burns. We talked about something about the last time you around here and i don't want to get into it. It was boring but we'll take you liked it. What are you george burns guy why you're watching. You confused like i am is he one of my all talking to hear this. No i know but i he's not one of the people that i see you know i i don't i cite him. He had this renaissance. You know it actually started with the sunshine. Boys me <hes> she's. She's you know which was a great movie which was which was great in and then he was <hes> this late nineteen seventies early eighties fixture you know but i never i never saw <hes>. I never knew any of his earlier work and it's funny when you get these comedians who you only know from their later work bob hope i grew up only knowing him as the guy that wears a blue blazer with a crest fast and tells jokes <hes> and football linebackers come running out and i i never it didn't speak to me and then i saw his work from the nineteen thirties i mean from the you know mostly the the forties and i thought man that guy was good. I mean handsome so fast so so add as a comedian just so funny and had vented that that character and then i later found out that woody allen patterned his a lot of his his persona on early bob hope hoop which when you see it makes sense because it's the cowardly back on his heels all right fellas ho ho boy has a strong guy okay right constantly trying to talk himself out of a jam not physically having the goods right. How many do you know and try new churn people. Hi nice nice with the that's a sharp pointy and then you see woody allen you think okay. I see where that came from. <hes> you know a friend of mine <hes> the guy that does the theme song ever <hes> <hes>. I used to make a joke in my act it <hes> bob hope's expense mainly for the same reason that i grew up with seeing this guy you well you know reading cue cards and poorly and <hes> so you know i would make a joke every night at his expense in my life showed my friend dave said you really dislike bob. Hope horrible and then he said do me favor. Go back and watch you bob blah blah blah and then i did like oh. I got to change that to george burns. Somebody's going down yeah somebody's but he's going down someone <hes> some old person that's part of the joke. Is that <hes> older people. They've never see somebody older. In the crowd i apologize the language and <hes> you know say you gotta be thinking hey hey bob hope never talk like this and that's really didn't and he was never funny so that's the joke and <hes> what he what he was and so. I had to change it to george. George burns is the <hes> who i say now yeah so you this. I'll tell you this. <hes> people like jack benny. <hes> said that you know the funniest person ever met it was george burns personally that he was you know <hes> so but you hear all those kinds of things like oh you know. Harry reid owes zeppelin marks. Marks was the funniest mark's brother that one always angers me because i think that's just not true. I can't there's no evidence. There's not one well you know that he is the funniest just <hes> of the mark right but they're all saying backstage. Nobody spin up right. What's going on our show. You probably know one day. You're gonna say like people talk about about conan and andy backstage. It was associate producer. Dan ferguson was the funniest man i ever met guy as high most of the time. I don't know anything about uh. I don't <hes> i don't pay any attention to people a lot of <hes>. I'll say that on the care he listens. He's a listener to this yeah and also. I'm just gonna say this right now. It's not just oh he occasionally has a puff off. The guy is one of those people that's into look. I got the animal crackers that are made of pot. Look i got a night guard a tooth an anti grinding tooth guard to oh. I had feelings made of pot. He's his body needs to constantly be absorbing it. He's he's one hop head that can is that a term you people use the kids. He's a real. I don't know the wino- talking to these guys over here the guy wearing a t-shirt he they're hot pads. Aren't they know dan very laid backlash. Oh by the way danza junkie he's <hes> he hasn't done the juice in ten years ten years. <hes> former jumped figure that out man just throw that out there. We're going to talk about our pets talking about pot overseas the lingo but he knows the link of it yeah if he doesn't know hop head the kid's caught mattie. Jane marijuana calls that they used to call it. The funny cigarette like that would be the kind of thing like that guy. It's sort of a here. Carson probably say that on tv in the early seventies that gave when has a funny cigarette. You know it's <hes> for a while there. That's what they were telling funny cigarettes anymore. They would call the games a little fruity little uh he's a little he's a little he's too on the ground. He's a little light in the loafers deed as i always say that's my that's my jon stewart doing johnny carson too and jackie gleason that the emperor fourteenth gone yeah <hes> that's terrific terrible who's judging now. You know what when i do it. It's on judging. It's just the truth <hes>. I'm an oracle in greek play. It'd be an article. I'm just a a truth teller agreed course. Let's take a break so we could stop this madness awesome. Let's break happening right. Now we're going to we're about to we're about the debris was happening. I mean we're gonna say. Let's take a break. I'll take my headphones off or were in the break the break after last time remember to go to the restroom. I'm hungry. What do you want a sandwich. I'd like to get y'all stay really would for no no and you know what it's not happening. Wait a minute. Even though you just said you wanna do it again. It's not happening. Oh yeah teach your kids what this former joke joke you you. You throw at something like that is going to believe it. You know listen first of all it creates the impression at the good guy. Now would probably undermined a bit that i keep saying it's on but you yeah well stakes stakes. People will hear the around your everyday. Everyday talked to re read it every day. Stakes aches and jimmy doesn't stop talking about it either but a great guy. Is that true true. Don't talk about it a lot. <hes> whenever he comes up right you know they have a nice quality house and you know it's the dickey's thing to say love in my life just in general i'll be walking on the street and i'll be with my assistant real. You know be with someone who works in the show and someone like. I'm doing great and they'll say like <hes> yeah. It's very nice to see you and they walk away and while they're still in your shuttles to the person with a nice quality. All no one says that nobody says i'm fun. This nobody ever says come on fund fund that means not fun <hes> all right conan o'brien gathering quick break. You guys use the restroom. He's going to go out and get those steaks talking about one of saint louis chop. You're that you're the expert. I'm going to defer to your the young saint louis shop the expert. We'll call andy richter off and i went to get you punk. <hes> dan what would you do. You eat meat then. You seem like a guy that'd be vegan. You seem like a vegetarian vegetarian to me. You'll love it really rare your opposite of me like a rare. That's not the only thing we're opposite on. Tell you that right now. I'll tell you something i i and i go out on a limb here but i don't know how it works here. When i'm done with this interview yeah interviews strong word conversation interview because more professional okay babylon we're done with this burgling babble fan <hes> <hes> you know. I don't know how you has it worked guys. Lock it all up right away to take all the equipment down or something like that. I'd guys meal we do. You have to go onto the next thing. Has it work. I don't think anybody here would go onto the next thing. I think if you're making that offer. I think everybody's going to take you up on. I think you need to backpedal quickly. I think you'll go. I uh-huh i'll. I'll take you guys out for e- we're we're gonna why should be some. I'm not biting on this emotional rollercoaster here. I'm going to do it. I'm going going to do you wanna go. Burritos go grocery cabrillo. I would like to take you guys to something to a nice meal but i don't know what's your i._r._a. Stanley's is pretty good. What stanley's is okay. What do you got against stanley don't like that. They have a tile floor and then you have like a table in the middle of it. It seems echoey to me. Here's a better question what is better within a block. I don't have the answer to that right. Does anybody here when you've got a computer. <hes> you know instead of speaking looking transmogrify in other words shitting on me earlier for just talking about my underpants. This is a big deal. This is brian saying i'm going to take you guys out to dinner and meaning it really meaning it the way it's not going to happen. No idea see the looking. Dans is getting his hopes up dangle drugs in front of this guy meets his new drove me. He's trying to move on. He's he is trying to rebuild life and you keep saying hey junkie pay a former chunky hither junkie. Hey dad junkie from the past you wanna junkies he and he you know he's oh look at him talking to some girl hey. How do you like the former junkie. He's move on well well. Do you shouldn't do it but you know he's watching the guy riding horses. He's watching the jockey. You know leave the guy alone. Don't throw shit at me. I'm telling you you i will take the people in this room. You're kennedy's involve. No i mean and this is from the simpsons. I promise you that's it's a to deep impression abuse three. Never mind what you got there. Powell chopper what you got you find some place to eat looking up. I am really going to do it. Less less than you want to do. Is that i'm going to do it with these. People won't be long meal harwood. This is over. We won't listen. Would it kill you. Would it kill you and look. I think is really know. Is it going to really happen people listening and watching my now okay. He's played a lot of mind games with us. This is really going to happen. You guys will say on the next show with it really happened or not. I just fucking with you. This may not happen but i'm saying right now. It's gonna happen. We're going to get a meal together and it's going to be a i wanted to be at a decent place. I don't wanna go someplace replace that has tile floor. You know that's misleading it. That is true and yet that is better than the floors. You've got their yeah right up here. It's supposed to be very good. What mcdonald's you're pointing. You know they have a mcnugget there and they've they've ribs to they. Don't make and i don't want to risk pissing off a monolithic the mcrib the first couple of bites tastes amazing seven bytes in you. Just just you want to get a gun and shoot your call. I say that every time yeah every when you say i did it once a once a year yeah right. I told you this year. I'm three bites in. I love it the fourth bite i have no interest in yeah and then <hes> your your stool for six weeks is a clear white gel that properly. I think you're eating a clear white joe with the mcrib so it may not be the mcrib but i don't think it is. I think it may be the eating of the clear wijesekera gel hair gel yeah. We're going to go out to dinner after this all right. How much longer does this go on rallying listen. We're not gonna take a break at this point. We're going to go. We're gonna finish this thing out now. We're really doing the dinner then we could just stop right. Now i mean i don't know where we're gonna hear some now. Here's the thing we don't really going. Here's the thing here's the thing so you stop at early and now you guys are into it and then i just got up and you even go to shake my hand and i don't even acknowledge and i step outside and there's an s._u._v. demand gold and i get into the back and it uses. Here's how it works. It just fires gasoline at the back push it forward into the most wasteful car you've ever seen and and whisked away to my private sanctum community somewhere in catalina just a car that shooting gasoline out the back to push it forward. It runs nine hundred miles nine hundred gallons the mile. That's what it gets well. It'll take them self-indulgent car ever late. Not that would be good gas mileage. No no nine hundred mile takes nine hundred gallon and yeah and and the isis play is a very says i suck doc and i'm just shittiest person alive but it's spelled ic- and then a space it's interesting interesting. Here's the question here's the question now and and this is at its has got people riveted. I'm telling you i understand broadcasting people listening right now. Is this going to happen. Is it not gonna happen. We're going to take them out to. I'm saying right now. I'm going to take you out to uh-huh yes right the premise but listen abyss. There's a duality here talk like an edgar allan poe story if he was redundant to build this very long ago. I will while you up with a stonewall own wall. I heard you you be encased behind set again. You're watching. We'll hear the ticking of your nicer wristwatch. Oh ah he'd get home in is nine hundred gallon a mile as being oh no. I left my watching that stonewall yes and that's when i realized that rally o- dark technical weird that was already murdered us. If you walled us in by default fault we will eventually die of starvation dinners not happening. It's over. It's back again so i you are captives. <hes> your captives who think every day you might get released but then sometimes i take you out to the yard and lonzo against a wall and you think this is it but then i take you back to the cell but then i say you're going home tomorrow but then you don't you're going to be iraq but that's on this interviews over say interview 'cause that's more of a formal. Here's here's my thought on this pressure conversation and by the <hes> by the time the elliott dan tarot the equipment down. They're not going to do that. We're gonna lock the doors choice. <hes> we have to do that. You'll be so bored. You wish wish you would've gone home well. I prefaced goal conversation by saying oh. How's it work. What are the selling well. You're telling me now after i've made the offer. I didn't say that these guys have showed up to take a breath. You guys say phillips head screwdrivers and take apart. Oh i've gotta take apart my apple apple computer and put all of its components in separate leather bags and how you store your break this down. I love we've to break. The hammers need to go away. <hes> this equipment needs to go please. We train on the floor floor. You you put a fire hose on you. Wash it all down you buy new. Equipment is what i do at the end of every one of my shows. It's very wasteful. Destroy all the equipment after every show we new huge powerful jets long enough. I get i leave after the model of <hes> that's not true. I sit around and let some of the best parts of the interviews. I'm very good on my feet in my house. My adam west seattle self doubting adam west who is coated coating brian is our guest. He's talking about males <hes>. Why did why did. I feel the need to repeat what he repeated fifteen times. What do you know i'm not. I'm just putting my watch on. I like like to put it on like to take it off. You know what i used to do back. In the days when i was a comedy writer is that would take my shoe off and put on the table and look at it and kevin neal and notice this and he's talked about it. I've completely forgot that. I used to do that but i used to wear old man kind of <hes> shoes shoes <hes> with the laces and the little little decorative. What do they call wingtip wing tips. I would where old shoes that would get literally got some several pairs of shoes that i buy at yard sales and i would wear them. I went through a phase in my in the early twenties as when i was in a rockabilly phase and i wear old shoes that i bought and i used to sometimes take one off and put on the table and just look at it while we were trying to think of an idea and kevin nealon used to he sketched me actually really doing that and showed me one of the sketches recently. He didn't do that on the on the air yeah yeah stay around for that interview. I don't stay all stay out of the interview. Well whatever i stay day. I eat <hes> as i mentioned you cover <hes> some mini cupcakes from time to time <hes> that's what happens with kareem with this is this is time we could be eating. We gotta gotta show. Do listen to you you can you can just pull up short. How much time have we don't even know. I'm an hour twenty one minutes god. I know i had no idea what does assist some sort of. It's a four hour show. Ninety minutes shows ninety minutes. That's right so we're not even gonna take the break now. We're going to go right to the tailender now. In a different modem conserving energy someone who's trapped in a mine and trying not to very shallow slow breaths. This is an our. I didn't realize you know flew by. It didn't really i you know painful long. You should come up more often again. It's this for the loving embrace of a family's bosom do a family's bosom that were that <hes> you were allowing you to go back home to you. Do not have to take us out to dinner. I wanna make that very clear. In fact i'm begging you not again. The the dinners mystery will happen or not happen and and i and you can we explain you think of being repetitive is the head off the chair off the stop button. I want this to me for people listening right now and i don't believe our camera so i i think they're just listening to not watching but i want this to be one of the great broadcast mysteries well this meal happen or not. I think i the more i talk about it the more i built it up. I know what i'm doing. Maybe so you're gonna drug us and then we'll wake up not knowing if we had had dinner with your and it's not no one ever knows and the russian of your brain remembers what you ate spend removed by the way let's not do that. Dan end-ends junkie if we drug him. He's right back. I don't like it. Let the guy grow but the guy being new person. Why do you keep saying junkie junky junkie junky. It's the recurring themes on the show. I don't want me to tell you what i don't like about your program. I tell you something right now. You're judge mental. You're sitting judgment you wear judge's robes and a judge's wig. Your favorite actors judge reinhold floyd the other fellow from taxi all right. I'm not going to let her that's never mind. I'm saying i don't care for it. I don't judge what you just. Did you judge into a judd. I don't like to judge either. I don't really not even one song actually as an actress oil oil ashley judd. She's made some bad decisions. Though you'll place that's inherent in all moviemaking snap at me. I'm just telling you what to say that someone's made decisions so good that she's but her errors i think of her that she should be getting these naomi watch roles and <hes> she made mistakes and so that's not too caught up in following her husband's reese car career what what happened. She married to <hes> a race car driver bobby unser. You know this but you don't understand the dome. I don't remember the guy's name he's he's got an italian name dan. I'm looking at you valley please. He's still looking at a restaurant marco buzz. He's french french shit. I don't choosy maria francetti. I don't follow that they are calling nascar sport now. Did you know that <hes> hey when you guys are talking. Can i tag <unk> out as as it work. Can i sure breath. That's what you can do when we're talking. Okay what happened. What happened you turn the the beatles not to play toll palay to drop the soccer balls and your choice. What else do we do. Put down that brush. Yeah you know what's what the painting picasso ceiling in blue you know. <hes> what you're doing essentially is saying hey edison <hes> enough with the tinkering this candles fine so when you told conan o'brien to shut up you're. You're you know hey superman. We're good you know. Stop the asteroid from hitting earth earth. That's what you're basically saying the thing again the throw it you. You've got a bottle but it's got stuff in it and that's gonna make does that's not going to go down and <hes> the worst period that's full. That's the best show i've ever done the worst. It's an extreme really you enjoyed yourself. You're gonna play this game. You gotta play his gambling. You're gonna you're gonna get her car. You get a call. Your wife and you know they don't want honey. I was to be funny and i enjoyed myself doing his show again. It was good to be back with him. Say and then you're gonna explain this dinner mystery. It all depends we'll see. I don't know what phone your dial tone and a cell phone. I don't know where you're calling. This is chilling. Oh that's weird. I never thought of that. There is no dial tone on a cell phone. Dow jones gone hold. Generation doesn't other downtown right over it. You know what i call my wife's phone today on fashion phone on the <hes> on the end it sounds like <hes> <hes> nineteen seventies phone rigging how it made a ring and made a ringing noise <hes> what is it usually. Does it make a ringing noise. You know we just lost charlie callas. Yes we did and i'm i'm not. This isn't a not having a stroke. I thought have been for a reason. I watched i think maybe in nineteen sixty two appearance by charlie callous and <hes> he gets new older charlie callas. I didn't seem this was a very early appearance by him and he went up and what i liked doing space work <hes> and he was doing dialing phone. That's what made me think of it right now and he was very good at that and i enjoyed watching his physicality and i thought a guy you know he and i liked he told a story and acted it out a story. That would be politically incorrect today because it it had these two guys who go hunting being in their sort of he's playing these palsied characters but i thought it was funny. It's funny and you give it up from the nineteen eighty s and ninety charlie callas where at that point we were just going to happen and watch this guy and television <hes> but yeah i don't disagree. I enjoyed charlie well yeah. I thought <hes> i didn't stand up. I didn't has has seen standup. I knew him as the guy on switch. That's a show with eddie albert and robert wagner iran from. I think something like nineteen seventy four to nineteen seventy seven but those people out there. That'll check that or even in here. I'm gonna say seventy five to seventy eight hundred the money. That was it but you already looked switch. That was insanely. That was coming. Hey can we give it up for me guessing seventy five to seventy eight bohen without giving him credit for oh. Can you very very rapid. I expect it from you given dates. That's never happened. Just great. G. verified it with a computer. That's better than me pulling it out of my astor that it's ever what happened in his life. I'm not here every night so i don't know but i guess yes. Uh-huh cocktails in order for that guy is junkie. <hes> wait wait hang on everybody. Hey drew a great job on those dates. I thank you you know what you think. You're being sarcastic but thank you i do it feels right to me to be complimented constantly and so even taken when it sarcastic yeah. It's just all feels good. It's all sugar for my system. It all feels yummy. Thanks is accountable creepy. Creepy don't ever do that again ever do that. I had <hes> not awkward at all. Yummy wishes to stop it. The street took a new character. It's the the guy who complements confidence thank you i hate this guy. You know what <hes> that's food'll yeah. It's just say something something in your food problem many please. Hey look great today because that went ahead like nougat center. Is that right 'cause. It was about my personal appearance. That's what's really cool peanut brittle. It's not as good because it's about something i'm wearing anyway. Chose it. You probably went shopping. You have contained and about him terrible and i. I don't know i like me <music>. I'm doing a pretty good job. Leaders have watch nice this quality orders from you. Don't like to do <hes> when somebody who's doing just a student. Just nothing nothing of a job. I always like to tell the person that wrote a great job bob and then as soon as they walk away. I go there doing caja. Personal should take that up. That's that's the premise of that piece i could. I wanted to give specific that that i realized it might hurt some people's feelings. I chose not to go into any details therefore making that story us news no but i what you're saying it. Was this new look. We really wrap this up but i don't have a sense of when this thing because i like to go for the big finish what i'm saying is it's about the meal your man. I can see your created. This is like an andy kaufman where there's real fears real tension in here. Stay on the st paul. How are we going to get a who knows what's going to happen. We're raising play. I did a little bit right there. I don't play hate it. How do you what are you then these getting you back doc for the eating the compliment guy because that's a character <hes> compliments i mean we're gonna be. I took phase and turned it around. You do meaning now. I don't want to admit it what what lobby where's a roller tape ever knew some taping. Today really does that that that would never do that. That's right. That's what crazy no no. No no no no panzer lower michaels on oh no no. I don't like <hes> no. I don't like that's a form of humor that is suited to a sign at a professional sporting event. That's the level of comedy. You're dealing with this. Somebody puts it on sign. Hold it up the laker game. That's a gone like you can put him up and he's shift me. I'm i've got your back. Okay okay. I like. I like your shirt. Oh make sure your character to <hes> get that from john fogerty dot o._r._g. Becker belongs to never not funny. He did it on the show belongs to us and we'll be doing it. You know what you're gonna. Make some sweet cash off of that and that's as your race from that go unnoticed exactly the kind of shirt that he would have been nice. Yeah sure sure <hes> jeff fogarty overdue. I like john fogerty and what's not to like the guy wrote them laid the leads. Were you wearing saying what's not to like the guy because everybody everybody paints john fogerty the same way they paint roger waters as an arrogant idiot <hes> but john fogerty seems like a pleasant man whenever i meet him. I met him once. I never heard that about. I've heard that he was like this this area and i think he had a <hes>. I think he had a bad experience. I think he was <hes> had an angry period and then i think he i've always enjoyed meeting him and i. I've always again said who else writes the songs he sang the songs he produced them and then he <hes> he played the lead. He plays great guitar parts. Yeah i like. I like his alive album premonition. If you don't own it <hes> great your friend. Jack white's another guy like that. He does all jack white. Does everything yeah it's an and he's he's funny and really creative and creates. He's got that <hes> he has that <hes> <hes> hat. She's got that had read was completely blanking because i'm so hungry having eaten raw. He's got an andy warhol ability to create his on world. When you hang out with with jack he's got people around him who were dressed a certain way and there's a certain aesthetic and there's a certain he's he's. He's designed his entire life and i think god give it up for that guy. You know yeah. He's gonna go what oh controlling weirdo now not at all. I don't feel that way when people make <hes> <hes> have you when you see the way he lives what he's created. I think that's really cool well. I have not seen that so. I will <hes> i won't these are i'm talking about. Inner sanctums rarified verified air. Talking about special are uniting off. I i live in a special. I just walk on raindrops. I a man who lives in the clouds lads. I'm i'm a gas. I'm really gas a third. Life said yeah brother all applicable. Do you want to that story. Oh my god. Is this going to be the big finish because oh let's take a deeper into the bunny hole. We're getting on a plane. We're coming back from the san francisco sketch. That's fast who's week <hes> matt belknap pat francis fellas on that poster and <hes> we're coming back from doing a live <hes> show of this and we get on the plane and there's a <hes> basketball skip ball team <hes> college basketball team couple of gal college basketball teams had <hes> a gentleman america gentlemen says <hes> <hes> he's in the aisle and then he moves excuse me thank you brother and the second set. Thank you brother. I realized just how racist sounded. Thank you brother really really and then just started making fun of myself going on the isle but i say thank you brother to everybody yeah well. That's what's going to happen. Eventually is if you say something repeated enough someday someday. I'm gonna say chapa somebody who's got not right. That's what happened yeah. They're gonna gum me to death really re other but i called my cell phone video. Did i yes you did i was and then i got to listen to the basketball team. Talk nonstop from the flight to san francisco to los angeles. Probably a very good stuff was not it was horrible high pitched laughter purist. I even the most powerful <hes> what's your question cute girls <hes> yeah yeah feel like you like tall. Yes i do i do too. You and i like them. Small other ladies like big butts cannot lie <hes> conan o'brien summer guest <hes> who is literally passing as the show is going on. I can't i did a show today. I gave myself what are you. What do you think you'll get one hundred ten me. Tell you something every night you watch me every every night i put my bone marrow into a wood chipper and and just spray it out onto america and then you ask me you say hey money by. That's how he talks to me. Oh he's headed. Hey a buddy boy. I'll see what the lorraine motel later for a seven hour podcast don't worry. We're going to bring the water and <hes> so. I give myself again yeah. Now we get to the big question evening. We have that meal. You know what it's going to be interesting and i you can feel it in the room. You can feel this guy salivating over his soul patch. He is <hes> you. Are you know what i mean. He is one hungry beatnik right now. He he is a beatnik aria but he does look like an endless unduly. He's listening to like sirius radio. I don't blame it's like a beatnik but then he has like the classes are just albie sure from nineteen eighty eight i'm not going to do. I'm not gonna rip on people when i do. I think he's a good guy. God i feel like i look like an asshole vilbert as well you are you are without the beer food producer. <hes> producer just did right there <hes> but it's it's well known. Can i try those glasses quickly. These are <hes> we do this before. I don't know i don't know that it is well known the rat at the time that horrible right then you look like a rambus when you wear them. I don't know who that is is. The basketball who are dennis. The menace is dad. If you were gay you know like he's gay dad. <hes> goes to talk to mr wilson and makes out with them. You know showed mr wilson yeah i. They can't think of one famous wilson. How's that possible brian wilson rival i don't i don't carney wilson on any of those wilson's. I'll make out with cardi yeah yes. She wanted to send the ball from <hes> from <hes> castaways. <hes> that's pretty good could be yeah. Boston's great what you should there. I'm sorry if i'm you know what i mean all right a five five to feed myself with compliments all right. Let's go. Let's finishes <hes> all right. It's been fun. Thanks for being here. You know what it was nice. Being here. I enjoyed. I decided to <hes> i did a good time and i am good. That's seriously i can't tell you. You're very hard to read <hes>. I'm very glad you had fun. Why would i why would that. Be glad you had a nice time awkward. <hes> my hand to be awkward <hes> this. This has been fun. This is the last time you know they're both. They're both this rank. Did it go well as i thought it went. Well time is okay. We didn't know each other. There's well then but that was on the little stomach issues a little <hes> yet petrobas remember the situation a little <hes>. We got to see you guys get to <unk> know each other that time and that was kind of interesting and fun this times more. You know two guys who <hes> like to yell at each other play mind games for ninety minutes. It's funny yeah each other yeah. If i didn't think was funny i wouldn't have done it now. It's just did it. I didn't think we were just you. Don't i want to admit that we <hes> did a dance. We don't know where it took us. We don't know why we did it dancing and that's always funny. I think it is i enjoyed it and i'll speak for the listener. They enjoyed it as we can't know i do know listener has one burning question they. I can't even laugh. They're so preoccupied with what is happening afterwards on a gun <hes> all right. Let's close this up. Let's <hes>. I don't know how it ends. There's no fi music. There's that all comes in post post. I don't have a live please at it. You know <hes> chunks to come out again. All the only thing the only thing staying in is asking for you got that phone call that happened. I'm sure it's coming that phone. Call and you know that you know that's the clip driver. Go on a morning radio <hes> morning television program. You know that's going to be the clip that they pull in his <hes> here the big question. I don't know why he's talking. <hes> all right we're done. There's been a joy. Thank you so much. Thank you <hes> if if this were any other radio show would applaud. That always sounds so hollow so let's not do that. They all go like that. I don't like that <hes> so thank you never albert's turn you ever go on there. Of course i cut my teeth on that show that meets that's a yes. Yes <hes> speaks highly of you on his program. Yes i went on his show may times yeah i didn't i never i didn't i didn't have him in my car until a year ago yeah and and then we started listening. Maybe four months ago. I think he doesn't nice job. I think he's got a future. He's a very creative strippers. I could do it out that nonsense sense but yeah but you know what he is. He's <hes>. He is a very funny thinker. I think so too yeah very funny. Thing always says yes says is the thing that you're he says what you're thinking and he's extremely asked yes. I like it. I like the program. I wish i would have listened to it. All the years that i did that. You missed out on some yeah. I know where it is crazy. Yeah sure that about him. Yeah <hes> shows about you. More importantly shows me <hes> a little sprinkle nikola belknap and matt <hes> chance to get it right. There's a chance to do in doing <hes> smart smart-tv right. Let's wrap it up that complement line. Are you done. I'm done. I wanted to pee an hour ago. What have we what if we order steaks and having them to remove. Why do we take a break and order steak. See the second half with stakes because that's the way this is all we own orlando we didn't we didn't get it. We didn't get it all love. Yeah i love your version of <hes> rosebud susan cain. Is you know in the first eight minutes. It says <hes> you know that's hard. Oh yes it is all that's your version. Was my saw your version of the sixth sense. It was really good. What's that they're all dead. Yeah open it up with that. You know it starts starts the opening that guy's dead you know that's where you're going by the way you slid over. You've show like nine times and i always think we're done and then i remember oh. No one of us and i don't know who that is. Keep talking. What am i ended. No joy turay joy joy this positions to believe. You're getting ready to sprint out of here so no oh steak you might be given away. Don't give any tell no. You don't know that's the thing i don't know. You don't know what's going to happen. You know what i'm the master of suspense. That's the one thing i've known for in america. I'm the master of suspense all right. We're done all right. Listen this joy. <hes> we've enjoyed her time with you brian's at our guest <hes>. Let's close this baby up right <hes> on behalf of i d h._d. Dot com elliot hope bergh. <hes> tabasco cat's junkie theatrical or matt belknap our friend franco brian. We'll see the podcast oak nap a._k._47. Go not forgotten if you you enjoy never not funny. Why not sign up for the players club. You get full video of every episode an extra show every week. When you become a member sign up now at podcast dot com the hey this is arnie camp from the improv fantasy podcast. Hello from the magic tavern. I fell through a dimensional portal behind a burger king in chicago into the magical land of foon and i started a podcast cast season three has just begun with a brand new adventure to defeat the dark lord. If you're a new listener or you've fallen behind season three is a great jumping on point and we've got great guests like justin mcelroy. I sat like francis college. Professor fake nine rachel bloom connection men corpses assist and one woman flee day colton don have intercourse with a variety of species is a bummer andy daily. You'll have the members of genesis list but feel conscious crossed out and then circle to the cross out again <hes> yes. I have killed phil collins twice. Thomas jesus i mean jar the circle and that's just the beginning season three f- alot from the magic tavern is out now. Listen stitcher apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

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"Your third cup of coffee. You're stuck in your car on your way to the big game and i'm stuck in your little bladder. Hey i can't wait to the next exit now and if you've got cut rate insurance it's your bank account. They could i so get allstate allstate where your rates mobile just because of an accident accident forgiveness from allstate. Wait contact your local agent today. Are you in good hands. Not available in every state features are optional subject to terms conditions and availability casualty insurance company and it's affiliates northbrook illinois. It is the other it you would see. Let's queen you wanna come the now what you see all dream of the banville grasp ascend to heaven every sports network that the whole world now don't you wanna go to sap street. Seaport studios put a sky's limit that we know as jalen molly how how we grow wrestling with the greats make no don't mistake i can take it to the vet so bursting in on that diva stephen eight cantu when about waste lately because you have no sleep in the the city that never snows if appointees e._s._p._n. Has been worldwide leader is sports. You still can't be sleepy. Just grab the mic greens and control his pro the first time i've seen that maybe new favorite thing that ever happened all right tonight on sportscenter after notre dame and louisville scott van pelt has got auburn freshman quarterback bo knicks antitrust in texas head coach. Tom harmon was what stood out to herbie and week one and it's monday so that means the return of bad beats tonight on sportscenter with espe- after college football on e._s._p._n. E._s._p._n. and the e._s._p._n. App i myself will not be watching that because i know what the bad beat is going to be. Did you see the northwestern sanford game ended. That completely meaningless shuts down at that moment. I don't need to relive and there is scott this is this is my ultimate praise to you in my moment one of despair. The first thing i thought of was that's going to be on s._p. That's how brutal it was so. That was just unbelievable that we welcome you back to get up coming to you. Live from above the heineken rebekka peers seventeen and here is the menu is time to get up on this labor day truth perks a home jalen was unreal. We'll if you didn't see it. Wait till you see what can oklahoma quarterback did last night. It's just a minute away. Meanwhile six days away from the opener all is zeke. Will he be back in time. We have the very latest. No reps no problem. Aaron rodgers is three days from giving the world. Our first look at what is new offense looks like we'll tell you why the the bears needed to be very concerned on get up starting right now here we go. Oh dan orlovsky house spectacular was jalen. It hurts last night. The alabama transfer his first game four oklahoma. Houston is a giant killer. They always knock off the big teeth but he would start fast. He looked outstanding getting the ball of his hands. It's quickly great. First touchdown passed. Get the ball on the hill in space awesome start this career oklahoma. That was his first drive now fast forward to the second quarter. You're going to see her back to throw you're gonna see c._d. Lamb about as open as you can be and that's a perfect throw man. I love the fact that he looks like a quarterback there climbs the pocket avoids the rust c._d. Lamb was one one of america's great college football receivers and this is a perfect throw. I don't care if the d._v._d.'s messed up twenty one nothing there. It's twenty one seven and here comes hurts again. You diagram diagram this play for us a little bit earlier. I can run with it. This is what this is going to be. The next level of oklahoma's offense is you're going to see some downhill run game or the quarterback. This is just a taste of what they're going to look like offensively this yale and hurt sixteen russia's one hundred seventy six yards on the ground and he also was doing a lot of throwing oregon good yak charleston rambo is off to the races speed on the outside for oklahoma special players or skilled players jalen hurts does a great job of getting on his hand slant can't speed down the field for a touchdown and as you watch him. Take this one into the end zone. Let me give you the numbers three hundred and thirty two passing yards and three touchdowns ran three more your scores and one hundred seventy six on the ground what an extraordinary debut sooners uniform jalen hurts. How would you describe rob your journey to right now unprecedented kind of like a movie describing his journey. That's hard. You know probably a pretty good movie someday. You know it's <hes> it's <hes> it's pretty remarkable especially in this this day and age. It's it's pretty remarkable so hopefully a lot yet to be written. The look at these numbers numbers okay throwing for three hundred yards and three touchdowns happens all the time running for one hundred fifty yards and three touchdowns it happens frequently but only jalen hurts last night and and johnny manziel in two thousand twelve the only guys to do both in the same game in the last fifteen years he was that good and sam ponder a you're. You're doing college game today back when he was in alabama at one point. Do you think they were aware he was capable of. This development is about the coaching. What did you see from him last night. It's it's a mixed bag but it is opening up a whole new world for him and we've talked about this before. This is a tryout for the n._f._l. If he can succeed in lincoln riley's offense. It's like we've seen the last two guys do and really keeps swinging the ball around like that then yeah. He's going to get a lot of looks from n._f._l. Teams much like i'm sure his coach will also but the thing that really stood out to me that i wanna say when i was watching that interview that he did right there with mardi. If you saw the interview he did with the fabulous holly rowe after the game. This guy just scored six touchdowns and you would have thought he lost the game. He's still got that nick sabin and that never satisfied. It's never good enough if that grows from here he's he's gonna have a heisman year to the point on the interview a man on a mission he sounds and looks like the look in his eyes like a man on a mission shen and a guy that in who's really really successful at one of college football premier programs pushed aside for say a different way but pushed pushed to the side. You're not good enough anymore and now he's gonna. I'm gonna prove to you i can and last night was just the start and i mentioned it is just a small taste of what this this offense is. Gonna look like he is a dynamic powerful athlete a guy that you're going to watch him. Play quarterback like a point guard. This year just distributed to some of the talent that they have out at oklahoma. He's got the best play car or one of the best play callers and all the country what level of football you're playing it and again. He's a powerful overfull runner that has only in better. We've only see him get better as they throw her. It's dangerous. I don't want to get ahead of myself but having him and tonga vilo competing for the heisman in the same year would certainly be a fascinating delicious little subplot to all of that. Meanwhile obviously a lot of credit to the coach. Dan did an excellent job in our first hour breaking down how some of the play play design here made a huge difference last night. Lincoln riley is a name. We will hear a lot around n._f._l. Coaching sir you heard it a little bit last off season when the coaching carousel started started to spin the issue was lincoln. Riley didn't reciprocate the interest. He didn't wanna leave oklahoma last year so if that ever changes he's going to get a lot of look from n._f._l. Teams they want to know about the play design the play calling how he's converted to guys that no one would have thought into heisman trophy winners and number bruin overall picks and who knows maybe third in a row so yeah. Obviously that's the key right. Oklahoma is is a big time program. Dan mentioned earlier they pay n._f._l. Level salaries and we'll see whether lincoln riley can be lured away but that thing though why leave unless he's just stick recruiting high school kids what can be ten million dollars a year ear coaching these guys and it seems to be going pretty well so far so i think they're going to do everything they can keep him. The other thing the point you made earlier about cliff kingsbury success or lack thereof in arizona that will determine a lot in terms of the n._f._l.'s appetite for even reaching into the college ranks which really they haven't done since chip kelly true and it is a reasonable thought i don't. I know that it's a fair comparison to riley. Lincoln riley has had a great deal more success on the college level kingsbury. Did it's a similar offensive scheme but lincoln riley. I think is put himself in a category where teams are going to be knocking on his door and throwing. He's like an a._t._m. They're going to be throwing his direction speaking of throwing money. Let's get to the cowboys. He's been a very confusing is in couple of days on the zeke elliott front. I feel like i've been talking about this now. Every day from last friday we're living in a world where jerry jones had just said he expected. It is easy to miss multiple regular season games. Then on saturday adam schefter reports the talks between zeke and the cowboys are intensifying so i can't make up my mind on where we are when it comes to zeke elliot and the cowboys. Let me turn to you. Where are we today is monday. They play the giant sundae spent the weekend talking so that is intensifying because as they were kind of nowhere they hadn't really had any substantive talks on this in about a month so a lot of optimism about the possibility of deal getting done sometime soon but it's it's not there yet. There's a lot of complicated factors to this deal. It's not just the you wanna make more than todd. Gurley makes its guaranteed guaranteed structure when the guaranteed money money gets paid and how soon so there are a lot of things still be worked out. I think the next couple days are critical. They practice on wednesday as their first practice in advance of you know the giants lionsgate practice today but that's kind of an extra so he's not in house by wednesday then they do have to make plans without him. You know everyone talks about ezekiel elliott and the time often the training and they go gotta potential injury with the soft tissue hamstring stuff. I actually thought when we took a long period of time off from playing football the off season the hardest thing to get reacclimated too was your eyes and you're just because again. Football is played in blurs you just see blurbs and colors running backs eiser paramount to their success and so how long is it gonna take zeke to get his is used to seeing a cutback seeing a goal being patient for one open up. That's going to take some time again. He's missed all all of those reps and that would be something that if and when he does come back i would have to know as a play caller kellen moore who's new offense coordinator how how are or his is right now because no wasted places not just a saying it matters as far as working him in slowly. I feel like i have pointed out their first two games so many times now that it's i'm a record that skipping but the open with the giants and then at washington that's consecutive division games. You can look at that one of two ways they feel winnable but boy you better not lose loser and then at the same time we four new orleans week five green bay week seven philly so if you're looking at an early schedule indicate what games do we we kind of have to win here to feel good about our season. You're looking at those first two weeks. Ain't we are the better football team. We should win those games because week four week five weeks. Seven or coming in those are going to be battles. There's no question that they're looking at it that way. There's nobody in the cowboys building that is looking at sunday going. Oh the giants are push over this year. We can win without ezekiel elliott. They want want him there. I think he wants to be there. It's a matter of getting this deal done there at work on it by the way they were talking with dak prescott and his reps over the weekend about a contract extension that is needed there here but not as pressing since he didn't hold point that once again dak prescott is in camp and he's in the last year of his contract zeke elliott is not two years left on his deal. The cowboys are not obligated obligated to do something here so it will be very interesting to see if they are willing to give him what he wants. Which is to reset the running back market and situation where at least financially he does not have any leverage a lot of other interesting situations around the sports sam. What else do we have this morning. Cowboys trying to win right away the dolphins maybe doing something different. They underwent a massive massive overhaul of their roster. This week that include trading away their left tackle laremy tunsil receiver kenny stills to houston miami received multiple future first round draft picks a second round. Pick counseling stills weren't the only trades the dolphins have made in. What's been a busy off season for them. This they also traded veteran linebacker kiko oh alonzo to the saints in exchange for linebacker vince beagle and the big move was during the draft of course when they shipped out second round pick to the cardinals to acquire former first round draft. Pick josh rosen for more on that. We bring in the former executive v._p. Of football operations with the dolphins mike tannenbaum tenenbaum all right mike. You know how the system operates. What do you think the dolphins are doing well. Obviously they've tried to prepare for the future of the best they can. They've acquired a number picks. It both the twenty and twenty one draft so obviously that's where their focus is long term short term. Coach floors is gonna try to get himself established and get off to a good stories stories. He can establish a culture in foundation for his program. So regardless of what brian flora's says the dolphins are obviously not going to be very competitive competitive. At least it looks that way on paper so that being said why not start josh resonant quarterback. You'll see that's an interesting question because obviously by the end of the year. If you're the miami dolphins you wanna have brian flory's establishes your head coach in terms of the standard and the culture and you wanna know what you haven't josh rosen. You acquired a top ten. Pick last year didn't have a lot to work with an arizona these it intriguing player. He has a lot of upside good arm. Good mobility as we're looking at here so i'm sure at some point this year sam the dolphins are gonna have to evaluate rosen because he's a key question as they move forward in their rebuilt all right. Thanks mike appreciate your time. It all sounds crazy but maybe crazy like a fox if they're able to win some games this year. Let's send it over to greenie for more on this one guy so there's so many different pieces of that sam to sort of look at and unpack your we're going to deal what the tanking part of this a little bit later in this hour because i i think this is a potential problem that we can see coming for the sport. Let's focus on the quarterbacks here for just a moment. What what do you make of this thing with josh rosen as far as how realistic the evaluation of him can be even after this season well just i. There's no i wanna along with the miami dolphins. Why did you trade for him. What was the reasoning to trading for him because he's statistically been better than ryan. Fitzpatrick in training camp and preseason games in your obviously is a front office. Moving forward are building for your future. If fits goes out and has an okay season in your seven and i it does nothing for your future. You are in the same position next april or next march that you were this previous one. Let josh rosen play because again you treat it with your your fingers crossed. Maybe he can be the guy that we're looking for and so given the up to me. I understand the team around. Him is not super talented but what happens happens if he gives you a glimmer of hope if he performs really well. It's a mike's point at some point. We'll if that is the plan. Why is the point not right now in if i'm a guy in that locker room what are we doing. They have to play them eventually brave. We don't we know that point. They have to play venture. They have to find out what they had. The reason for for trading for him is all about options. You have ryan fitzpatrick and house. You can play if you need him to now. You have josh rosen in your building all year. You get to know him. What makes him tick. Maybe see him play definitely definitely see him practice so going into next offseason. When you have two first rounders to second round as you can probably get any pick any quarterback you want. You know what you have in josh rosen so all they're doing is kind of. I don't know how they sell it in the locker because it makes all kinds of sense in the front office in from outside in terms of a longterm plan but in terms of getting those guys to play every single week. I think that's the reality too because of the moves they've made it. Hey ryan fitzpatrick the veteran you just go get take a beating. You're just here to take a beating and josh rosen. We have no option. We have no choice to tell oh you other than we know what we're doing with you right now and it's unfair to you as a player i will wrap this conversation by saying if the dolphins go seven nine this year frying floors is the coach of the millennium sure. This is a team that is flat out traded away every chance they have of being competitive this season. We're going to talk about it later in this hour but this is a clear case of tanking and it's a problem meanwhile let's wrong. Hurry up dan orlovsky some of your big takeaways from the college weekend starting with the quarterback yeah justin herbert had a really really good weekend without his top three receivers playing outstanding auburn defense led oregon to a game that they should have one mismanaged at the credit auburn for making some place at the end of the game but justin austin herbert firmly planted himself to top five pick conversation after week one they didn't win because this kid man bo knicks ended this game the way a kid named beau knicks shook. Ah you talked about showing some onions one of the hardest things as a player is not play well for most of the game and then have an opportunity go. I got a race everything because nothing else before. This happened happened matters. I've got a chance to win the game the way he handled that situation was incredible to watch true. Freshman put just been named starter ten days ago and then finally transfer portal big weekend for transfer quarterbacks. Justin field made the wrong decision right going to georgia was the wrong decision. Make the right one transferred the state. He had a massive weekend and probably opened our eyes again to this kid might be what everyone thought he was coming out of high school lit up up four touchdowns within the first eight minutes of the weekend and he has brought his name into the conversation of don't forget about me on one of the great quarterbacks in college football this here and then there's l._s._u. I know you were very high on them. They lit up georgia southern. That's not a big surprise but the big story was joe. Borough threw five touchdowns in the first half and this offense offense looks explosive borough was twenty three twenty seventy threw for five touchdowns. They've got some weapons on the outside just jefferson and marshall marshall six four sophomore the three touchdowns but joe borough gives this l._s._u. Offense in apart editor at an example that they've never had sam. I want to go through some of these that we just go and go back to as as thrilling that game was between oregon and auburn and it lived up to the hype and comes down to that last play the sort of narrative going in was if all of oregon loses that game the pac twelve is basically done. Is that what we saw over the weekend no. I don't think so because of the other games that were lost in the s._e._c. It looked really bad for the big twelve early when you started watching the games because they were losing games they absolutely cannot lose but then we all over college football so evens itself out. There's still a whole lot to be played. I will say this though really quickly on knicks. I talked to jordan palmer who coached him a lot about him and whether or not this was surprising to see a guy at this level step up not at all this guy's been watching cam newton that was his he was all about cam growing up went to that game that national championship game where we've seen the footage nick. He's just that kinda guy never going to be too big. It was really a treat for us to watch. Herbert makes them plays but the bone nick mix and i want hopefully we have the video of hemming aiming gus malzahn on the sidelines because you we heard a little bit of like this kid's wired a little bit different. He's got some moxie. There's a place near the end of the game where again he handles a very very difficult situation. He's been the starter for ten days as a true freshman at a place where his father fleet you talk about pressure and expectations and he takes down a guy who's some believing in to be a top five traffic at the quarterback spot and he's got this moment on the silent with gusts in love and it was just like i'm here and then finally to go back very quickly. I know i'm jumping around under the ohio state point when you saw what they were able to do could that offense be even better now without dwayne haskins it can be better because justin fields brings the running ability ability back to this offense and ryan day has such a great feel for guys who had super different talents just field to me through the ball better than i had anticipated anticipated. He ran their offense really well but this kid is a dynamic athlete so you're taking. I'm not the nothing's the past wayne was last year but he's going to be very good passer in and his offense and now adding the fact that he is this running threat. His offense could be better so after seeing them in one game. What do you think the feeling is for this ohio sating do you you think they're disrupting the ala clemson dynasty right now i do and i get to call their game on noon at noon this weekend against cincinnati on a._b._c. but this team now because this offense and defense looked better they're dangerous in the college football player and the coach in cincinnati fickle was briefly the coach ohio state all right. Let me run through a couple of other things for you here as we get up and go bad news and u._s._c. sophomore quarterback j t daniels will miss the rest of the season toward the a._c._l. And meniscus in the right knee dan how big a loss that well listen. They've they've got some players behind him but daniels was the guy that was going to resurrect u._s._c.'s program. He was a true freshman. Last year starter early in raleigh had really good signs to start this game and helton who's coaching for his job has broadened grim heroism play caller. We'll see what these young guys can do behind him but this is a big loss for u._s._c. has got a ton of talent on the field. Meanwhile a last second touchdown lead to an alabama am win over morehouse college thirty five to thirty s quarterback akil glass there was that twenty yard touchdown to brian jenkins junior with three seconds left to play glass threw four touchdowns and the black college football hall of fame classic to tennessee hannah's were the top seed in the men's draw is out at the u._s. Open the defending champ novak djokovic forced to retire. He's got a shoulder. This isn't a third set of his match with stanford. Bring <hes> last night. The joke of it was down two sets in the third when he pulls out this opens the draw wide for roger federer who was on the same side of now. May you have a real chance to make a run to the final history in toronto yesterday. Astros as justin verlander throws his third career. No hitter struck out fourteen allow just just a walk in the first inning and that was it if one hundred twenty pitches again it's his third career no hitter. He also no hit the blue jays once upon a time as a member of the tigers. There's and you look at those who have thrown three no hitters or more in their careers. It's an exclusive list sandy colfax bob feller cy young among the other pitchers of accomplished three no hitters. There's in their careers. He's got a long way though to catch ryan ryan with seven all time is the record five still cutting this hour get off. We knew patrick mahomes in the chiefs. We're a real contender to win the a._f._c. and a sneaky big move this weekend may have put them over the top plus. How many weeks will it be before. The giant switched from eli manning to daniel jones some n._f._l. Predictions you will not want to miss are on the way on this labor day edition on e._s._p._n. I just show you this verger is if you're a punter or if you know upon thursday lava punter because this oh no you gotta see it was i in no way <hes> the way this is is not for the brand. It was definitely not kind of british justice. Just take long now. That is such a shame the you know. It's funny because i probably taking in some capacity. Okay coming up in five minutes are the raiders meters really all in on their quarterback derek carr. We have an answer are the kansas city chiefs too good to stop. We'll answer that question as well and what do we expect from aaron rodgers. We i haven't seen this offense at all. It debuts for real thursday nights. We advance to those and other questions three continue. Its get up on e._s._p._n. Brought to you by allstate because mayhem on saturdays in the fall is inevitable. Mayem happens on the field off the field. Then in the polls mayhem lives on the wind and the rain or on the foot of an errand kick during a trap game. You'll find mayhem in the parking lot. During tailgates charcoal that's not totally out and aaron football through a window flat tire are lost. Mary allstate protects you from mayhem in the parking lot and outside at home and away. You can't stop me from happening but you can't get better protected from it with allstate the potential for mayhem during the playoff race is rampant underdogs trap games unexpected whether et cetera et cetera et cetera get better protected from mayhem with allstate. Contact your local allstate agent today come on. Hey a sneaky big news. If you weren't paying attention over the weekend is everyone was cutting down their roster. The raiders four quarterbacks derek carr. They have mike glennon. They have nathan peterman. They have have to sean kaiser with a claimed off waivers from the packers dan graziano you were the one who sort of brought this to attention in conversation we all had yesterday and so i'd like to bring to the table here. Give me ninety seconds on the clock. Where is jon gruden going with four quarterbacks on his roster wire there go there because he's obsessed with quarterbacks quarterbacks as we all know but it just it's hard for him to lock in on anything so he likes mike glennon one week. He likes nathan peterman the next week. Oh there's the sean kaiser. Does he like car and that's what's to be found out right. There's only one more year of guaranteed money left on derek carr zeal. He'll be the starter this year but he's playing for coach who clearly changes his mind a lot. When it comes to the quarterback position he's going to have to convince him that he's the guy going forward into vegas and what tells you that he doesn't really know is that all of these guys are very different not even just the way they play in personality. I would watch a reality show just on the q._b. Room thing those interactions go hard knocks. One day was dan. Give me this guy. Give me the guy that guy. I'm gonna throw different angle on this. What happens if this is really smart by the oakland raiders brian hoyer. You'd sit teams. Teams are reaching out so that means multiple teams are searching for a backup. What happens if this is incredible. Move to protect yourself backup. Quarterback lies is and maybe have a tradable asset because the next guy maybe they get a value draft. Pick or something for a michael unreasonably speaking. They can't keep all four of the rest of the week so if something's gotta change but if you're derek does this concern you. There's a lot of things that continue to concern me in in our actions. You know i mean listen. Those guys are backups in car. Car is the starter but at some point i don't want continually continuing moves to be made that either impact me directly or <music> indirectly. Yvonne derek carr said quarterback rooms it matters. Who's there get along ancient grunge safer. John gruden's favorite quarterback is always the next one he you might be able to get all right. Let's work our way into the dolphins who underwent a massive overhaul of their roster this week including trading away young and really good left tackle michael laremy tunsil along with receiver kenny stills to houston for multiple future first round draft picks. They got a ton in return but what exactly is left behind the play play a season when now as to whether or not his team is taking head coach bryan flora's said quote no we're not. We're going to try to win every game then. That's disrespectful to even say that it's disheartening. It's heartening to hear people talk about it to even say that respects the game as much as the game has done for me when people say that it's extremely sad. I have great respect for brian flora's. That's that's exactly what he should say. There's really nothing else he can say. My word of warning to him is these coaches don't always survive. These episodes were there clearly tanking but as they put ninety seconds seconds on the clock. Here's my concern. Baseball is struggling right now because a third of the teams are not trying to win which means so many games are meaningless. It's all well and good what they have one team in the n._f._l. The browns day-to-day worked. Maybe now the dolphins are doing if all of a sudden four or five teams start doing it and you have that many bad matchups every weekend. I think this is a problem waiting to happen absolutely right what the n._f._l. Has going for it in an effort to combat. This is all the stats about you know. There's there's five new playoff teams every year. There's a worst i first team every year. You know the n._f._l. Can sell the idea of hey. You're never really that far away. Dolphins obviously didn't buy that this year. They're going. They're going a different direction but you're right it. It becomes a thing that more and more teams. It's something the n._f._l. Will have to address as long as they have. Young stars in this league guys like patrick. Mahomes guys like baker mayfield. They're i'm happy 'cause that's gonna keep butts in the seats. We'll see what what you're talking about with the browns. I think actually worked out in the n._f._l.'s favor. They tanked. What would they have now and the n._f._l. Is all about it. My biggest concern for the dolphins right now is it is clear that you tanks not just because of the guys who gave away because of who you brought him they bring in julia davenport the guy that was a part of the old line with the texans who gave up more sex than anybody else in the league or go to go for a guy that was that good to maybe be one of the worst. That's concerned one of the great advantages the n._f._l. Has over the other pro sports in america is april or in their off-season. Everybody thinks they can win. The super bowl the day think that there's eternal hope. This is our teams year in the n._f._l. Is going to have to find a way here to keep that to keep that for every we fan based because it makes the n._f._l. Different than a lot of other sports leagues their fans. Honestly believe whether it's the jags whether it's the lines whether it's doesn't matter we got a chance the win the super bowl this year. They've got to keep that in play. I've been saying for years. The worst thing about tanking is that it works and that's the biggest problem. There's no obvious reason that teams shouldn't shouldn't try it if they figure to be bad. We'll talk more about this as we go. Meanwhile one other thing. I wanted to bring up here. Formula former buffalo bills running back. Lesean mccoy is reuniting meeting with old head coach. They were together in philly he and andy reid and now he's in kansas city with read on a one year four million dollar contract according to adam schefter the rich drew scott much much richer and for me this put it over the top. Give me ninety seconds on the clock. We're in a league now. He didn't even have to be able to play defense with the way the rules are and everything barring a massive spate of injuries. The chiefs offense is too good to be stopped. This is the move that put them over the top. They will win the super bowl. I still worry about their defense i really do. I don't know if they can stop anybody. The offense is fantastic. The leshan mccoy move matters if he's going to play a role for them. They have to guarantee his full salary for the year because they assigned him before the end of week one. That's that's a very important factor here. He had other teams interested so it'll help but i still look at the chiefs and i think to myself. I don't believe i believe that to be a championship caliber. Geffen shady mccoy a year removed from thousand eleven hundred yards rushing and having sixty catches yeah you've now added that to an offense that was filthy good last year and he's gonna be your fifth sixth seventh option and so you're taking a really really good players still and putting him in offense. That was really really good. Just last year i said on this show multiple times concerned about the defense and i've said they might have to score forty bordia game to win but here's the thing they're going to the playoffs and maybe the only needed score forty and a three game stretch and i think this is going. This move certainly helps. Get it to that point. The forty s nothing for this team. Look the concerns are on offense. We've seen what they can do with all that they gave up on defense. I actually think their defense is going to be better this year and it doesn't have to be much better. We've seen in recent years. You don't have to be world leaders on defense to win a championship. I know defensive guys. Don't like to hear that their defense always was couldn't get worse than it was last year. They were a coin flip and one guy lining up offsides from being in the super bowl anyway and their offense is going to be better with another another year under his belt for patrick mahomes that is pick to win again barring a spate of significant injury. I will remind you we at great football coming your way tonight after number nine notre dame and louisville and then even better after that scott van pelt with this sportscenter is going to nix and tom harmon whether he will have kirk herbstreet with his week one takeaways and the return turn bad beats. You can catch it all tonight on e._s._p._n. And on the e._s._p._n. App art mirror stretch drive time in major league baseball. Let's run the bases national league wild card style pete alonzo. He hit his forty third home run of the season but not enough of the match they lose again. Dropping the finale a three-game set in philly five two on sunday tonight baseball scott kingery breaking to all tie with a three run double off amelia and the bottom of the eighth the mets have lost seven at nine dodgers meanwhile rally four three come from behind win over the diamondbacks arizona cody bellinger tied atop a nine with forty third home out of the year john peterson put the dodgers in front with pinch home run on top of the eleven the diamondbacks he's six game win streak snapped with that loss and then christian yelich. He hit his forty second home run of the season yesterday today. It's a three run shot top off craig kimbrel. Now it helps the brewers to afford nothing win over the cubs at wrigley field for yellow she had gone twelve games without a home run on his longest streak of the season and the brewers shut out the copies for the second straight game so let's take a look at where that leaves us even with the loss the cubs still hold the second wildcard spot in the national league three up on the two and a half on the fills nationals have a commanding lead in that spot more than four games as the final month gets underway and we've got not one but two for today. Let's play two on e._s._p._n. On this labor day one eastern aaron judge of the yankees host the rangers and then a key interleague match up the astros astros taking on yellow brewers both games on e._s._p._n. And all of it live on the e._s._p._n. App coming up aaron rodgers did not play at all in the preseason even with the new offense. He says it's no problem. What do we think it will look like. We'll tell you next up on e._s._p._n. Going into my sophomore season. We'll order state. Alabama was ranked number three in the country at the time. We was having a morning meeting before the game. I think it was the noon game by coach. You know you ready for this blowout. He was like oh no about that and you know i was kind of started. It was like what let you put always have faith in our team so i tested my teammate on keith kelsey. It's on a senior linebacker now. Boy you know we need to play tesco's. Those p. aren't they. He believed in us a lot of people down now. It's gone to the game because every passion play florida state lost so this was going to be different a lot of fans. It came out of supportive. We went out there and you know we put a great show up saw scored again. No everyone who came out people jumped on the bandwagon you're right right after that game is pretty inspiring to have kids you know come up communities and every day you know when you're out on when pitches look viewed as an item and stuff like that means not me you remember that game so well. What a performance from lavar that was. Let's see what he has in store tonight a monday night special on e._s._p._n. You will see number nine. Notre notre dame taking on louisville's eight eastern on e._s._p._n. And live on the e._s._p._n. App back to the n._f._l. Over the weekend should debbie uncloudy officially signed his franchise chai's tender because the details of a trade had been worked out with seattle so he goes from houston to the seahawks for twenty twenty third round pick plus marquee c._b._s. Mongolian jacob martin cloudy was twenty six years old. I've been holding out texans training camp. Of course you know he was the number one pick in the draft once upon a time but there's a lot to unpack kanat deal as well. I like seattle. I am very much on the seattle bandwagon. I think that's a big acquisition but maybe if more pressing import damian what he brought it up earlier when he was here the texans the biggest problem is they could not keep deshaun watson upright with some of the deals. The texans made this weekend including getting laremy tunsil. I think they are now the team to beat in the a._f._c. south south or they're absolutely the team in the south now and now they've they've jumped up into the conversation of some of the better teams in the a._f._c. because again playoff team last year. That's a big part of this and now they had two big needs. They need to find a way to protect the shawn watson and they needed someone really outside or opposite. Deandre andre hopkins not only did they fill need one. They did it with one of the better players in the n._f._l. At it and then kenny stills is a really good number two two and a half option at wide receiver so this puts them in that conversation so dan. I got to go down to houston this last week and i interviewed the shawn watson and j._j. Watt and got to talk to bill brian for a little while and what i came away <hes> with is that they feel they can just stay healthy. This is a special team. We're nearing the end. We know j._j. Watts career. It's a huge year for pam. This offense like you said as long as they can keep the sean what we saw what he can do when they would give up twenty six or sixty two sex then so we we know that the ability is there if they can just stay healthy. I think the feeling even in the building is that this is a special year. They lost their first three games. Last year still won the division so i mean this is a coaching coaching staff that believes in itself and a team that believes in itself. They obviously believe in the quarterback. They lost the playoff game to indianapolis and it couldn't have been clearer. I was at that game. Indianapolis has offensive line loaded with first round picks. They pushed him around. Houston has an offensive line. They were patching together so obviously they make this a priority. They go get laremy tunsil. Absolutely they have to be you too favorite right now especially with andrew retiring. They gave up a lot but i think they make themselves. Potentially a super bowl contender actually both sides of the deal. We talked about with county. I like that for she app right now. I got a couple of numbers. We're going to do a little more or less on a couple of different players. This season we await the signing zeke elliott dan orlovsky more or less fourteen and and a half games zeke plays for the cowboys this year. I'm going more and this is why jerry jones is not stupid. Jerry jones a very smart man a very smart businessman and he understands the value of zeki elliott to his chances of winning a super bowl. Say what you want about him. Is the general manager. He's been really good at past years. He's too smart r._v. Man not to make sure zeke's there for the whole season next up melvin gordon and the chargers and a complete standoff dan graziano more or less a half a game this year that melvin gordon plays. He's four the chargers more definitely. He has to play at least one game. It's important for people to realize this is not a levy on bell situation ezekiel elliott melvin gordon cannot sit <music> out the whole season and become free agents their contracts with poll. They'd be in the exact same position this next specified for the charters throwing it straight. I don't think you're gonna find a team willing to give the the charges what they want and also pay okay so he will wind up back there with los angeles says dan graziano orlovsky more or less dwayne haskins four and a half stars for washington trenton this year. I'm gonna say more. The issues are this case. Keenum played a level where this team's stays in the playoff picture or are you struggling as football team. Jay gruden has to do something at that spot to potentially save his job. He also showed really well. In the preseason. Remember a couple of bad picks week one but two three and four a much-improved play the mind is there. You'll have more than four and a half starts finally one more quarterback situation graziano eli manning more or less than ten and a half starts for the giants killing killing my inner grammar nerd here. It's fewer fewer than i think i had to say. Fewer which is accurate because i think the giants its plan to keep eli manning in there and keep daniel jones on the bench is tied to them winning games and i just don't think they have enough to win enough games to keep that plan intact. This is the new word twitter troll in railway what we're seeing right now. We're doing joining or not. I wanna season you look soft thursday night bears and packers packers at soldier field and it'll be everyone's i look at aaron rodgers in the new offensive system of matt low-floor rogers sat out the entire preseason but over the weekend he you said that really shouldn't matter. If we go out we struggled. It has nothing to do with clan meaningful grabbed meaningless reps in the preseason. I really believe in if we light it up. It's not because we rested in the preseason. Our performance will be based on preparation asian this week our experience and the way the we execute on the field definitely done these what we've been working on being rated g. a little bit so far throughout preseason diesel so we'll give away all of the goods but now we have a chance here to open it up pretty soon so is this stephanie. There's an it could be rated x. Movie was yeah ooh so there's a lot to pack there as well aside for a moment the notion that the preseason was irrelevant because i think we all learned that over the course of this preseason this will be our first look at rogers in this new offense. How good do you expect it to be it's going to there's going to be some growing pains. I believe leave aaron rodgers whatever but they just put some of their people that on the outside they're relying on on i r brown's on i r so now those receivers relatively the same guys as last year adams is great but we're going to be relying a little bit more on valdez. Gatling is ready to go forward. Especially against a bears defense that that is outstanding is geronimo alison ready to become a number two against the bears defense that is outstanding so i love the offense i know the offense. I love met the floor but but i don't expect this to be x rated version thursday night that they're expecting yeah i i agree with you completely having been to their camp having talked about leflore. I think they're putting something together here and they're still going to be awhile into the season before it looks the way ultimately is supposed to look at to figure out those other to receiver spots. The running backs have been a little banged up throughout camp so maybe i'm wrong. Maybe aaron rodgers just takes it over and everything looks great but i don't think this is a ready made green bay packers offense starting which one taken taken over them. Are you taking the bears offense over them. Are you taking vikings offense. I'm not looking for either of those offenses over welders. Yes exactly that's the reason i'm sticking can with them and when you look at the schedule especially in december it's pretty favorable. They don't have any row games in the snow or anything to be concerned about late in the season so i'm i'm sticking with that that guy we know when we're going to get that i've just i mean i love rodman's but i get a bears offense right now in the talent that they have in my question again goes back to this the same dyes that were out there making plays or not making plays last year for him and we set up here. Most people talked about the guys around aren't good enough right now. They haven't done a good enough job of supporting them. Those are the same guys for the most part minus saint brown. Those guys truly going to go from here to here. I have to leave this here for me because i have developing news. This is a tweet from adam schefter eleven minutes ago a new quarterback in indianapolis. The colts are signing former patriots q._b. Brian hoyer to a three year twelve million dollar deal that includes nine million guarantee so we knew they needed a veteran in backup behind jacoby and that is exactly what they now have in the person of brian hoyer dan graziano. What do you make of it well. He was in demand. I mean those contract. Numbers indicate that there were other eighteen interested. I believe the patriots were interested in bringing him back so is important for the colts going with jacoby perset to have a veteran backup in that room in this gives them. What do you think he can compete for this. This rollout jacoby hoyer right now in the state of his career is a perfect row for him is to be in that support role and if something does happen because again this is a very good football team still an indie and one that potentially can go to the playoffs if you need him to play for a game or two. He's good enough to get you a win with help around on him this jacoby percents team. This is a healthy situation. We've talked about quarterback brooms. They both have the new england ties. They both were raised the same way in the quarterback room and understand and what to say when to say how to handle success how to handle failure but he's there to be jacoby support system. They needed a backup backup with chad kelly he suspended spended for the first two games so they literally needed another body in that room in case something happens with percents that makes all the sense in the world and it does not come as a surprise. I'm glad for them that they got it done by the way one last thing here i want to sneak in. We have one more more or less or more or fewer. That is a point five segments that dan grazziano will be more or fewer viewers. I'm not here tomorrow yeah. Well and i'm back wednesday if you were we were going to cancel it after that i mean that's come up with a wednesday that we have tennis. It's coming your way the u._s. Open round of sixteen continues on e._s._p._n. Two sides eleven am eastern. You will see the defending champ naomi osaka and then tonight you'll see ron. Paul inaction action at seven eastern is the u._s. Open on e._s._p._n. Two and the e._s._p._n. App meanwhile. We hope you will get up with us tomorrow morning every morning. We'll have in book in notre. Dame opened their season tonight how goodwill they look. Are we looking past them. We'll be live in green bay with aaron rodgers and the packers two days from their opener and we'll tell you why l._s._u. Might be the best team in college college football but no one is talking about. It's get up. It's tomorrow eight eastern and it's right here on e._s._p._n. Get off is brought to you by mountain dew do the do and by u._s._a._a. Insurance banking and investments tailored for the military community greenie. They're good highlights from the game yesterday. My favorite highlight from college football yesterday was from phil cookman and jackson state after the jackson acton state touchdown here the mascot no way they took the defender. The mascot got black men like conduct wavy water. You know hey i need nick's savings feelings on this with that mascot would be missing. You would not know what happened to that. Nowadays these mascots. They get too much attention to get these at this time. Jackson state does not however lead the country in penalties on the mascot notre dame chad against me in but <hes> to play great football super accurate drive. If this train listen louisville's not going to be a good football team this year notre dame kickstarts their run as you said that i'm taking louisville taking enjoy the rest of your day. We'll see you tomorrow. I hate nass.

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Racing engineering with John Gentry

The Autosport Podcast

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Racing engineering with John Gentry

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You earn unlimited double miles on every dollar you spend on every purchase which means you'll have plenty of miles to actually travel to Ireland the Capital, One venture card. What's in your wallet Capital, One Bank USAA? Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Plitt cost. We joined book John gingery race engineering, and his successful career. So used to the role of the race engineer emotional support sports often, we take groans that involves in the money remarkable people who do that job. So today's podcast is chance to speak to one of the most versatile and experienced race engineers, probably world sport. I'm your high steps Joel, my guest is John, gentry CV is a who's who have big name droid as well. Known seems also include success to wilt machinery as well as for so very diverse. And long career, I guess remarkable just looking tell you. So you'll see film has been going on for that low. Yes, it has been a long time. Actually, you know, I mean if you. I was born in nineteen fifty so that was the timeline grown previous racing started, and some involved in later in life. And I've loved every minute of it as you say, in on four wheels, and two, wills. And I think may be one of the few guys of managed to do that, or, or wanted to do it. That's great. Success me. We'll, we'll touch on many years of this. Yeah. Just say many teams Formula one teams touring car themes my soccer on just, just stop. See astonishing. So we'll, we'll, we'll, I'm sure have some great stories to hit also joined by James Newbold make him this rare appearance is a podcast, of course, editor of all sports engineering supplement, which is, let's see. Well, you've got you, we've got in basically because he's also concert, Jesus chance to plug engineering for those familiar with will the engineering supplements. I thank you very much Ed for having me on the podcast. Yeah, Danja nearing supplement is every other month within what sport magazine chance to showcase. Some of the people that, like, John actually are integral to making mud sport. Take some of the innovations that have changed my support for the better and some, the haven't quite as planned and digging into those stories. And actually showcasing, you know what it is to be an engineer. So the, you know, hopefully, some of the people who are read in the magazine. Also, confined this on what sport dot com slash engineering. Can you know, find out for themselves, whether that's something that they want to do, because, of course, you know, there's many ways to get involved in motorsport, whether that's as driver as a mechanic as an engineer, or even as journalist as as we are. So hopefully whether you're familiar with it, you'll see some interesting subjects appearing out every other month in the magazine. We'll job to talk about race engineer row. How would you define those laws? Proud of your careers. Is that loves you said, design work Jolson were some of the drive management within within same's, but rice engineers, probably what your best NASA? It's, it's a broad definition isn't it and the broad jobs. How, how would you characterize? What's the race engineered us? Yeah. Ink is very difficult. There's, there's different types of race engineers there, there are guys who. Delve into data and discuss everything to, to the end of the earth. But what, what you're really looking for is being able to get the confidence of the guy who's driving your car. If you if you're with a new driver to, to you, and you, you go testing or whatever and the first couple of changes you make is, is positive driver expects it because that's what you've told them is going to happen. He goes faster and he has the confidence in you. And that's it if a driver doesn't have confidence in you, then you might as well. Go home. And that's even more prominent in motorcycle racing. Because those guys you say them fall down in, they jump up run after their by contri- together on it, and go again. But the next day, they are hurting a lot and it does compromise them. So they have to be one hundred percent. Sure about what you're doing what you should mention of bikes, even though the majority you see four wheels. There's some successful cincy wheels as well. But also sounds lights likes bikes who am I still, I love your collection and he sounds like maybe that was that you'll kind of access point intimate as the you love bikes that came along a bit later. It wasn't. It wasn't really. Okay. When I was young. I did I did mess about with a BI bantam and things like that. But. 'cause were rarely what I wanted to get involved in. But as as time went by I. Appreciate it a lot more about what was going on in bike racing. If you like, and I think I was very lucky to actually have the opportunity to to, to engineer to 'em for wheels. The, the first time with this is key grand prix team was just through a chance meeting with the with the manager of the, the, the British bases uky team. They the only grand prix team five hundred CC grump Ray team that were based in the UK, and I met him the airport. We will waiting for Boston to take us to the car park. He had all his kit on the not just asking how they got on that weekend. And he asked me what I did. And we would just on just chatting away. He said, okay, if you want to come to the workshop, you're welcome, and you can have a look around. It was the old Surtees workshop down Croly and in Aden bridge. And I went down there took advantage of that. And enjoy a lunch out with him and. And never close. Look, the bikes and so on. Then a bit later on. I was working with Benetton. We would testing in, in Imola, and hold of me and said, where are you is won't minimal aware testing moment? And he said, well, we're rising in Missouri. No, the weekend, would you like to join us. And he said, the Japanese guys will welcome you. I, I so case change the diarrhea way bit. Went off down to two is Ana and I great weekend treated like a VIP, and so on. And that was it may be just on a year later. He called me, and he said, the Japanese guys would like you to work with us. And I thought, wow. What am I gonna do? I can't turn this down image early on in one of the few people that has done it or even wanted to do it to engineer by foreign to whales that point, had there been many people that you look to maybe for advice to say, well, what's the reference point that I go on here because the knowledge that I guess it accumulated from your time in formula. Women in sports cars, and so on up to that point was, basically not really of much use. Yes, I suppose, I suppose. That's right. But the thing about getting the riders or the drivers confidences, there in both of them may be more. So in bike racing the team. I have to say it was the team were good, especially with Kevin Schwantz and Ron has decided run was fantastic with me. He he helped me a lot through that first year with, with zucchini and came into and, and even Kevin's father, you know, they travel around in a in a motor home. So it's a tight knit sort of sort of Dale and it took me probably three or four months to become accepted into motorcycle racing. You know, the mechanics used to make the changes to the bike, and the rider would just go and try it in. And I tried to bring some of the Formula one formula two. Engineering philosophies into how you go about it. You know. And gradually got through partially because of Kevin's father. He he used to sit in on the daybreak syfy like and. He in the end he say to Kevin, he said, look give this guy a chance. Listen to what he's saying. I'm sure what he's doing eventually will work out. And that's what happened. It it did. I did two years with Zouqi my spouse me in my home life was was deteriorating. Little bit. So. When I was offered the job back. Good lighten house. Ninety one there was a bit of pressure on may two to take that job rather than the gypsy, like style of motorcycle racing. I accepted that Joe button as, as you guys know. Went bust the end of ninety one and. Okay. It's gone wrong for me, but never mind. And I always wanted to the third time that you've been in a Formula one team that run out of. Poured its funding of the alpha mayor and Renai. Yeah. I mean you could even include shadow in an extent, but, but. The Raynaud saying was a was a big shame because I t add three with right now. It was it was the first time I had to a serious contract if you like an an oversee rhino were a big factory team. So ula. Yeah, that's, that's right. Eighty five. It was a it was a little bit strange for me because I, I wasn't allowed if you liked to, to design anything I could I could suggest things and stuff like that. But wasn't most wasn't allowed in the drawing office. And that was that was strange for me at cell, I asked if I could have joined bowed in my office, which was close to the race cards to the workshop and the guy said, yes. And the chief draughtsman go bit upset about that and gradually. We got over that sorta difference. You know, it wasn't it wasn't a big deal. It may meant the I could still. Get a pencil out and and do something inside. Hey, what do you think if we could try to this, and I would go away and complete the job. If you like, because I guess it should be said this stage John, the although we've introduced you as a race, engineer, you had done a lot of designer and draughtsman work in your previous team. So you one purely there is, as a race engineer signing up on the weekends. And, and that's another, I think people probably misunderstand about race engineers, is they see their roles as someone who's trying to optimize the performance on race weekend. But it's still a nine to five job in, in the week as well. And more. Absolutely right. I mean, in knows days, you know, the, the seventies, the eighties, as well as being a race engineer, and inverted commerce, you, you were draftsman or design ah, so you had to produce drawings, and so on any, any new components that were coming out, you had to make sure they got progressed in the right way. It wasn't just going to a circuit and and fiddling around with 'cause atop and things like that you had to have another role in, in the team. For me. It was it was as e drafting was what I enjoyed. I it was the only thing I was very good at school playing football. And. I was lucky enough. When I left go together job in a contract drawing office, which, which gave me experiencing all manner of engineering, and even civil engineering. So. I was in. I was enjoying life. It was what I wanted to do me, a draftsman. But I liked racing. I was, you know, more ways looking for something in racing difficult to find of course, even in knows days. But I was lucky enough to answer an advertisement in local paper, the Surrey comet. For a draftsman icy cars in. Thames. Ditton. You know they're they're known for the Cobra. But that time they also had a deal with the government to build three will invalid carriages. So, so you had lucky enough to get that job. And I enjoyed that job. Got more and more into the rising, I went to Jim Russell and the Jim Russell schooling and all this kind of thing jumps for myself, you know, just just for me. And then kind they, they autosport magazine a cost, I would I would get every Thursday, and there was the advert. For. Draftsman in March engineering. So I thought that I was interviewed by gyco. Jeff farris. Jeff was very good designer still is. It, it been working Lotus done a lot of work on this empty, too. And he interviewed me and all intensive purposes, gave me the job, so I- Jeff a lot. He's a quiet guy, but without him, maybe I wouldn't have. Fouteen into motor sport. Gross, the guy there in hurt the time he too was was very good to me, and those two guys are too, 'cause I gave me the chance if you lied to get involved. What actually happened? There was was was quite quite good for me. Not, not good for just because I think Jeff. Jeff left. After about six months of me being there that left me is the only guy in the drawing office, so to speak. Real bean would come along and sketch them ideas. And then it's I can you can you tight that to its final being. And that was that was good. Rubbing very clever guy. And you, you learn a lot from these people not only the guys like Robin. But the mechanics everybody, you're learning a lot all the time. Trying to understand what the jobs like how the job could be easier. Maybe all these kind of things and I thought was well, March was not just in from the one it was in former to it was in sports cars, it was trying to be everything to all men. So I guess your experience was immediately being thrust in lots of different directions. All different times. Yeah. It's absolutely right. There were, there were a couple of satellite draftsman who worked from home one go junk LA and the other one, not in Slater. Not in went onto to do the. Human thing. I think. Those guys worked from home and up. But I was the only one in the in the drawing office to try and take care of what was going on. A lot of the time, the, the fabricate is or the mechanics would would make bracket or something for themselves. If they did that they die, scribbled it down on a duplicating and ripped the page out gonna make the peace and they give me the book, back course you had to produce a proper drawing of it. So we could we could produce them. I mean we, we were really at that time, but you've seen production racing cars as well as the Formula one. And also the canam. So I, I was lucky enough to be in March. An exciting time in a not, not so long after they started. A guy missed the first year of nineteen seventy I joined just towards the end of nineteen seventy but it was a fantastic place to be a lot of them. Good drivers runny paid. Nikki louder. As you've said, these guys were were there. Andrea, de Adam age, even though he came along with the Alfa Romeo engine. And we put that in the back of the seven one, one. And I still know and dry now. I mean I still do little jobs for him from time to time. So those relationships last a long time, you know. And for me, that's another sign that they appreciated what you did. It's interesting what you said about how the job, I guess, changes as I have some news, a race engineer through all of your career, but you were doing design work that kind of thing and later years, you'll single to work as has been in things like GP to toy to racing series, you, Donald touchy pizza. Oh, specs Aries, which does mean much much narrower focus now. And it's it is interesting how we don't I guess, if you're if you're coming in now, so this sort of thing, it'd be much more narrow. Jope window. You're, you're working in a things become more special. So you think about even some of the great names used to inform people, Adrian Newey, people think of as our the nemesis, but he's not around engineer he was race engineer to join Takato enough to marrow Andretti. Even an IndyCar. So you got these people kind of prophesy your this really broad grounding. And the nowadays is much more much more specialized. But just looking at the the challenge of race engineering, saying, inspect single-seaters is that a much more narrow and slightly less fulfilling job because of that because you can't do anything with the car. It's just pass off the shelf. You, you, you put on you just have to make the driver confident and make setup tweaks to make it to put down so much. How are limited is? But it's not the same job in a way, is it or it's part of the same job at all? Not all year. You're absolutely right in what you say. I mean if if we look at what goes on now in, in sport. Most of them are one may series K GP two or formula to now. Was probably the pinnacle of that for me. It was if it was the next down from f one but you, you had to do what it said in the book, you know, I can recall the team getting getting excluded from result practice result. Because I got counter sunk screws instead of button head screws in their real wing gurney flap, and things like that were were ridiculous for me. I, I think that. From an engineering point of view. I think that was a negative thing. They the engine the engineer has the book and he, he can't go outside of that book. You know, so you're, you're, you're up shins, not the same. Problem solving out of it, doesn't it. Around at uconn? You can't change the suspension geometry. If you like, you know, when, when I was working at cop Asuka. We, we would was easy to change the geometry, 'cause it was plates, bolted onto the, to the chassis, and we used to experiment, quite a bit with that to try and improve the car changing role centers and things. But you can't do that, now, you know all you can do is what there is in the book, and I think that's a shame. We don't think we have the top end of Motors board. I don't think we have a formula where an engineer has freedom anymore. And I think that shows how much difference than can an engineer with really good experience. Grounding in two four wheels someone like yourself make in a spec series that has very limited areas, too, because in something like say the participation car championship. Where it's not a spec series, but it's for closely controlled in people will often say that they'll look at how many different winners, there were last year. Remember some ahead. It was fifteen or something like that. And say, well, it is contrived, but actually, it is it still engineers doing a good job to get the car to optimize it its peak level of performance. And some teams will have young engineers. Some teams have. Lazily say her fresh ideas versus. An experienced engineer who has tried all these different things and knows this setting work, but the necessity, so how much difference do you think can experience make in, in these limited? Confines, I think if I look back a little bit when, when I finished. Working with the Mahar the end of ninety ninety three. I found myself at T W R win in helping them out with design work on the on the Valvo project. And I think if, if you speak to anyone Volvo, I will say that was probably the best publicity show. They did fifty state with the estate com. There was that was a fantastic time in, in touring. Car is in for me because you could do almost what you wanted, you know, a guy there were regulations, but you could use your imagination, you know. And we, we saw that through the, the estate God in the saloon car. And then with the ice forty we, we were doing things that, that you could never do today in in touring car racing. Okay. Became expensive, and that was part of the problem. I think I think the time we. Iden- thanked hexagonal damper. And we made our own linear roller bearings. And all this kind of thing because the damping was very important in my mind. I was very close to Lind's and what we did with our Lynn's on this on this friction Reagan, so on just proved that those ideas were the way to go. It cost a lot to produce the front strat of a Volvo eight fifty but it was worth it. Now, you, you don't have the choice you have to use whatever it is. And nothing every everybody in touring Caro, British touring. Carney way, is, is using similar similar parts think I even know that now but. You take away the, the imagination if you like, and I think that's bad getting. You can't make still make a difference, though, given if you parachutes into the Brits, turn contract and champion and you with, I mean, I'm thinking a couple of years ago you away Romeo Ferraris when you in Taseer, and he's done quite a tale. What reason they in? That's a similar situation where extensively the packages is tried to be kept as, as close to spec as possible compared to something like the TC one. While touring car project the on with Honda. How much can you play about there? And say okay, actually, I know that this is going to work is. I you mentioned the alpha, I mean, that was quite quite an interesting job for me because. For me you have to evaluate what you've got first of all, you have to understand how the car is where is you've been taught with the drivers and so on and so forth, but you have to work with it a little bit to understand it. For, for me on that God, there was some areas which were week. So you once you understand, which areas you want to, to change, or in you, you can suggest it to the team. Normally they, they are positive. And that's what was happening with the TC are alpha. I think if you, if you talked to Andrea belief, for example, he, he drove that car for us in Macau. And he I known Andrea through the rebellion endurance racing team. Fantastic driver. Very, very good driver for me. And when he kind to drive for us in Macau. He said, look this car is as good as any of the other cars out there. But because it was maybe not a high profile team. If you like people look down on a little bit. In the beginning. We had Michaela routine Maki Maki was very good. She's a very good driver. I worked with her in auto GP with supernova, and then she was driving the Ferraris alpha so that relationship was good. That was no doubt about that working with Mickey was good. And. I'm Patiala that she felt the same way, but we have to define, what was what we were able to improve on that car, not downside say what was wrong because. Unlike to say this is all wrong. You know you have to do this, that something else. But if you can improve something then it helps a lot and in that car there were some areas that we focused on and did improve the car is we went through the season. People be amazed by the amount of. You say many teams were for insolently categories, so I worked even signed up in formula. Liane as well. It was it was interesting erica's. That's another one where there is technical innovation. But his all would, let's call so blackbox innovation, if you like is the power train side while the car is kind of there and sat. Yeah. Phone from Nuri. And I got him. Full got involved in formerly with the Ventura team. We had Nick Heidfeld and Stephan. Sarah's Zan in cars. Good. Drivers very good. Drivers. But for me it was it was. I didn't enjoy it. I didn't enjoy the way form. The Ray was. I think it. We couldn't do anything with the with the chassis, if you like okay, the normal adjustments. But you will more focused on the energy. Yeah. All all this kind of business. I only did it for the first year. I think the the first rice we went to. Both both of our both of our drivers. Mickey Mickey she rotate was driving one of those, and Yana truly was his team in the other one both of them touched the wall and broke the gay box casing. Yana missed the rice because there wasn't enough gearbox casings to around this kind of thing, it, it wasn't great vote for me. It wasn't a place where I wanted to be. So did you join the truly team after Venturi headed yet that that all came about? Because. Did the testing the through the summer if he like most of it was done at Donnington with, with the foam recon with venture guys and then supernova took over the depreciation of, of the, the truly team? If you are truly came into. And truly got Mickey to drive. And her father asked me if, if I would change teams and go to work for Mickey. So you one part of Venturi for the first race when heartfelt nearly one and then in, in true Nick heartfelt fashion came within a hair's, breadth, the winning name was putting the wall by Neko processed. Anyway upside down. He didn't know what to do their Chile because. Being told look if, if your car stocks in the red lights on you jump out of the car without touching any positive it, Nick was, what do I do? Now. But. Same teammates at the time as well. Heartfelt processed were were rebellion teammates. And that was another team that, that you've within the world insurance championships. It's a small world. Yes. But the foam Laurie, I have to say wasn't for me. I I'm sure it's, it's going on leaps and bounds. Now at least they can use a car for the entire race. Whereas in the beginning you were changing changing cars and all kinds. Yeah. It it's almost they, they boarded into soon if, if they'd have waited a little bit. So you could use one car all the time that would have been a massive different. Introducing the new buttermilk crispy chicken biscuit at McDonald's. We don't eat that music made with tender chicken. Let's lose the echo on a warm buttermilk biscuit perfect. The juicy simplicity of our buttermilk, crispy chicken, biscuit. Speaks for itself. Get it now for just three bucks and get a two dollars sausage mcmuffin with egg or a one dollars small hot coffee. All from the one two three dollars. Simply your breakfast at McDonald's prison participation is very camera p combined with any other offer combo meal. Interesting, Joe is changed. How about joy this, because obviously in early as you're working with drivers who about smoking. Pat's more contemporaries. And then later on when you're doing junior single seaters, you'll working with much, much younger drivers from a different era to drive is change. Really? Oh, I'll drive as much the same. Whether you're working them in the late seventies, ole hole today. Very different outlooks and the well changes, isn't it? It's pretty much the same. I mean, we if we talk about drivers in the early party, if you if we both these guys are not with us anymore. But if you, if you look at Ronnie Peterson, for example, fantastic driver, if you if you put him in the car, and he went out and did ten laps. It come back and say, minutes, not bad. You know, whatever. Then. Was. So if you if you put him in the car and he just did a few laps five laps he comeback. Car's not too bad. But then he would start to complain after that, but he would change is driving style to suit that deficiency. That was in that car in the beginning, you know. So runny was a for me. He was he was able to do that. He, he almost they part of the engineers job by changing his style changing how he drove the car. Other drivers will Nikki, for example, when he drove the seven to one next month, he told rob in it was the west guy editor is life, and he was right. But Reuben wouldn't accept that, you know, so. You know, from the from the driving point of view or working with the drivers it depends, which kinda driver you have in terms of personalities. I mean, I, I mentioned, there's not too many personalities, lock Brian Hinton the even counted it was Thomann. If two time it was a fantastic. If Tolman I mean first time with their own car. Nineteen ninety Brian and Derek in the car so good, good drivers. Without it wasn't supposed to be like that. It was supposed to be Derek, Stephen south, but then Stephen disappeared of from Valla Longa tests that we were doing and did a test with McLaren formula. One in Paul Ricard and. Alex, great didn't like that atole. So he if Tim and we got we got Brian to drive again. He was driving for Toleman the previous season and. We had, we had a great season. I mean first and second in the European championship. What more can you ask for the only thing you can ask for is my driver's? I. So there was there was competition within team without any doubt. I can I can recall strange thing where where we would we would get round to the days where you had a warm up on Sunday morning, and we'd go out into WalMart and would come in stop go out again. And if you look at the timing is when the girls, the wives and girlfriends were in the law of the timing, if you look at that sheet, he, he was quicker when he went to on the second run said Derrick wispy beside to me, what did he do? What did he do to, to, to find that time an today, they didn't change anything nothing whatsoever? They must have done, you know. So that's, that's it was a little bit of showmanship, because all the happened is that. Brian's wife wrote at different time. And that was it. And in in. I think was where we, we sort of sewed up the championship certainly for, for Brian, and we were we were happy about that. Obviously your team as as one that we've finished first and second, you couldn't ask. For more. But Brian had to work for it. You know. Derek was was good competition for him. And, and between us there was there was competition inter taint competition. We, we all went out in the evening, we were going to have dinner and just relax a bit. You know, it was it was kind of done. And. Ron punched me. As we walk into their ice ages. Punish me on the chin and civilised that about. And he said, that's for making my life so difficult here. And she is you our is. Oh, I didn't mind. If you look at my CV, I still of south Morton boxing club. So he wasn't too really. Talk about your license. Do you have kind of a favorite driver, the with main INSERM of professionally in terms of they gave the right level of feedback? They went to an engineer call themselves, but they the some of the other particularly could report with you fail. You got the best out of each other's one that stands out from the so many. Drove his marriage probably takes Walser to think through. Okay, Jill when he did drives, the canam car was good Wolfensohn seven. Yes. It was very good. Moving on from those guys in, in, in GP to, for example of, of our Porenta, look Philippi. In the in the endurance, Kosin dry. Sorry, Luca Filippi and dry ability in the in car. Very, very good drivers ferry. Good drivers. Essentially pick some of the more recent ones as well as just. Drives, people might not instantly most I didn't gets a Formula one but very, very, very, very skilled capable drivers. Good drivers. Okay. Luca Filippi would have loved to drive film one nothing but, but people are and dry. You didn't. You didn't have that failing that he was wanting to go there. He was. He was a top level in endurance car racing. It's good for him. It was it was doing very well. You know, he he was the ideal guy to have in an endurance team because we had herald prema- in the other car. And he, he was it was more of a gentleman driver. But, you know without Andrea in the car that, that car car number thirteen wooden of run as well. The foam the Formula one drivers. Most. Most of my time was with Derek would say because I was with him in the Tolman dies from from eighty one through two eighty four then joined alpha. We had betrays the and Cheever recalled that was very good. Because I came across him a guy Brad them a few years later. My, my friend Delio. Deangelis, of course was very good. And you had several spells with, with Derek across three different teams. Off. And then, of course later on you went into business with him that triple eight. We will know their workers as a driver, who was supremely. Quick had the had the sports car success. The unfortunately, alluded him in Formula one, but from your rise, seeing how he developed from Dr that you worked with informal a to through Formula, one and throughout that crucial period of his career was he was establishing himself, just how good was he to work with? Yeah thing. I mean obviously, there is a is a very good friend of mine on godfather to his Elvis, though, this daughter Murray. And so we were very close. And he, he was very good driver. Okay. He didn't win form. Lohan rice ago grand prix it was closer. I think in Brazil one time. But he. He was. For me was still a good driver. When, when I left Toleman, I left Toleman at the end of eighty four. Was Johnny Qatar's engineer there. And Johnny had a big shot in brands and damaged is, is legs, the other car was being driven by one at the time. I think I've heard of him. And. Of a say, even in even in the beginning of his formula. One career very, very good. You know, you knew he was going to be good, and all the focus was on was on air tone, for sure. After after Johnny had is designed. In knows, is you, you could jump in the NBA 'Lance and go to say what happened when I arrived, there, I was well, he was seriously injured. They were talking about amputating of is foot or something. And then say kinds, it walk ins was around that time. And he said, no, no, no. Do. I just I belive him and take into us. That's what happened I went to the spittle with him and all that kind of thing. So I missed what was going on brands hatch is as the rice meeting, and I was, I was disappointed a little bit with some of the some of the management Tolman that they not gonna say they didn't care, but they weren't concerned about Johnny. Really? When we go to the hospital. The, the surgeon said, look, you know, we we're gonna have to remove his foot, and I said, look, you can't do that you have to just stabilize him. Hold of is girlfriend who wasn't with him for the first time ever, she wasn't with him, and his father, her father sorry, and, and I came over and organized to fly him out of Mary's Inc is in, in Romley on the Wednesday morning, he went back to Munich at some some, some more treatment on his legs, and we all know that Johnny recovered not to, to come back into Formula one but interfering cars and. For many. That was. Know that was that was my turning point in Tolman. If you like, which is why I went to our. Alpha was a disaster for makers, basically they never paid me. So that was a bit of a problem. I'd say they didn't really let you have you'll solve you'll say the design as well because bowel. I read an interview where Ricardo portrays said the five call was was one of the worst he ever. Drove. He said, the law gentlemen, that was down to the lack was down to the engine with its consumption not been very good. And the chassis, and the Arizona makes being compromised by what the owner Paolo have another wanted for the aesthetics of the car. And so the whole thing was a bit of a shambles really. Yeah. You, you, you could say for me it was a shambles to be honest him. Well for me. What happened I made a contract with author, delta. But when it came down to the crunch the cause being run by permanent from euro racing. There was it was a new monocoque. I had to to go back in full. It's from euro racing Previn ellos workshop to author, delta twice a week to explain what's going on, and so on, and so forth. Once they built, the chassis built the monocoque, they decided that they would run the old suspension on that monocoque, which was for me. No good. Wasn't gonna it. Wasn't the job? If you like so that car on now it turned out in people. Say that is one of my 'cause I mean it was in matches. I was supposedly the the chief designer there the time but the finished product was an as it would have been if, if I'd have state there, I, I was a bit disillusioned. When all this happened a guy. My people said, oh, yeah. Kanani happen in Italy, you know, blah, blah, blah, but. And was this. I bid this allusion about it all, you know, you're not actually building the car, you want to build you'll be in fifty percent of one in fifty percent of the other, or whatever Derek found me and it just that is first year right now. And he said, oh, how you get known and all that. So we, we talked to. He said, why don't you come and work for Reynaud so Reynaud big factory team? They're not gonna give me a job in. And he said, I'll tell you what. I think they will, and he came back a little bit later. And he said, yes, you know, Reynaud really interested. So, you know. Evan never meeting with them. So I, I went there. Still wasn't getting paid from what to delta. So the end even at the end of eighty four I didn't go back down into the IT five. 'cause you reading your CV you says that your job as one as being involved on the design side was you achieve race engineer and not something that we see nowadays with there's various confusing levels of the hierarchy of from one teams where you're trying to actually who is responsible for having the primary interfacing role with the driver. Could you explain little bit about how your role alpha on the, you know, on that side of it compared to say directly racing nearing direct Tolman and Reynaud and Bravo, and so. Yeah, well, I didn't even get to run the car. So I was a chief of anything again that I think it chief engineer is a guy who these days. He wants to get the best out of all the guys there that data men all all this kind of thing, there's a lot going on there. The tire people the whole bit if you can if you can bring all those people together, you've got to have some kind of harmony there. The, the you're if you're gonna get the best result of the car so you go the driver. You got the data man. You, you go to tire man. These, these three guys are important. Mechanics even you know what they do how they do it. It's, it's trying to oversee the whole thing and be happy yourself that you're doing the best you can because that was a a an interesting period. Whereas, you know, we, we covered before he inside that we run over and then fell apart and them went to problem. And I find it interesting because we we asked about the best drivers that it were with. Problem, you then encounter Gordon Murray. So, you know you what with Rory Byrne? You've worked with Gordon Murray. If what with Robin herd. Wilken shore. What with with with Thome as it is a who's who of motorsport in encountering great minds. Where do you think, you know, some of these these, these top people rank in terms of, you know, their, their contributions to motorsport and, and just just who who you look to the most inspiring of the people that, that you were wrong side you on the spot? The most inspiring. Rub in was a good guy. I, I always thought of Robin that he, he would keep giving you work so you give you a job. I want this, I want that want something else. And at the same time he coming on give you another job. And if you nother job until you into date, you know, either you slow down or you weren't you weren't giving him back. What he wanted. And then he would say, okay, forget about that just carry on with those three so he, he was a good guy to, to know when you were overloaded, if you like. Other people to, to be honest with you wanted. One of the guys I most respectful, as, as a designer and, and the rice engineer was Morris fully. I encountered Maurici did a little bit of, of consultancy work with the fifty d. But they nine counter. Timet taros. With we did the w right together. That was a funny thing because he, he, he got hold of me and said, oh, you know, what you're doing and will cause I now Nima tried to pull the and a thing. I just come back from the canam thing and. He said nine material is draw. Then you call blah, blah, blah, would would you come and join, so let's, yes. Okay. Mmediately. When I go down there, must self Morris were working in a double guarantee, down the corner of the wood yard because we weren't actually allowed in the in the, the main drawing office until Derek Gardner left. So that was a little bit of crossover there, but mois was great. He was. It was ready for me. He not only had the idea is, but he was happy to sit there and tell you why in it wasn't like this is car. Do it like this. You know, and that's it some, some chief designers or whatever, are like that, you know, they'll, they'll, they'll drawer car. Oh, some of them don't even draw. But some of them do do drawer, certain a mountain tale. That's the big xactly lie that, but Morris Morris gave you confidence that the bits you were gonna detail design would good. It was it was a very good guy once over just went to you did mention in passing. We'll see with with Brian was Elliott, Dan, jalousie relatively briefly of sleep is that was as they, they lost his life, bowl accounts, very likable go and very capable driver as well. Elliott was was great. A fantastic team guy. Any way we went. When he was karting. He he lost a little bit of one of his fingers because choke choking, the carburetor caught it between China and sprocket, and yet he would it could still play the piano to, to concert level Oregon places. We went, you know, he if we were sitting somewhere and there's a piano, they go there and stop playing you know, he was. He was light back guy. Unfortunately, is is timely with may was really short. We the beta fifty five words was not Golden's best cars for sure. But we, we are in member Bernie told us that after the first race in Brazil we, we had to stay there because we had all the information about the other teams how quick they were bub-bubba blah. What sector times, they add this, and that, and he said, look, I want you to improve this car. So you're gonna stay here for a week. Gordon didn't want to do that Gordon, went to Imola thing, because the nose days, there was a five day Formula, one test in Molo. So he went there saying that he wanted to keep an eye on the opposition and all that kind of thing. But in that in that week I think we ran for three days or something. And then in between we were muddy fine the car, but we, we moved into colas. We did a lot of stuff to, to that car, and we. Did improve it a little bit. And that was help from from Elliot for sure. Well, one of the problems of it for me. It's I thought it was too long in the wheelbase. And. The tar didn't. If the traction was was not good. It was good on breaking because the white distribution was was not as high. If you like. So. It was it was no bad under breaking. But way you want to put a bit attraction on the radio. It wasn't enough that, that length will pace after after Elliot's accident Bernie, came along and said, what do you think is wrong with this car? So we, we all thought it was too long. And he, he said. There, derek? Good just signed frame, after Elliot's death and. He said, you'll, you'll make is when they're enteric started. The brand new car. We went to Donington crashed it. Yeah. It was in the workshop, he said to me take that monocoque that you'll make crashed. Blaming me. He said, do what you want to do with it to make it shorter. And that car was designed at a machine rear bulkhead for the for the field Phil sale, so we could take that out. Eighteen is out of it put it back in basically wrapped up the, the fuel sale, Raba fuel cell. And when out and drove it Ricardo thought it was better. And that was that was something to. That we could do you know, and Bernie was like, well, you know, why can't we do it all you want enough fuel Bernie basic? And that was it. And of course, we should say with mention of the driver, you also along with one of the founding members of triple eight, which had a huge amount of successes formed for the nineteen Ninety-seven originally tremendously effective team. We haven't really had time to even get into that yet. Let's say one thing about triple eight, it was a deal we made to together. Derek, Roland Dane in Harrison. Yeah, that's right. But it was it was cold mutt. For me it was called triple eight race engineering and what I wanted out of that was for us to, to get involved in some other categories, not necessarily racing 'Self, but helping other people rice. Yeah, so doing for post rig tests do doing anything kind of kind of trying to evaluate their cars and suggest things with their 'cause we, we did it once with Volkswagen in Argentina. We we go to a fax shows you how long ago it was and. They were asking if if we would go out to Tina and help them when they were doing some track testing. So I sort of facts, and I feel, yeah, it's quite interesting to do went to Roland and the end zone. Derek was not often in the workshop and said, what do you think, you know, I think the good idea if we can get involved with some unlike that and? Rollins said, no. He didn't wanna do it whatsoever. So he said, in the DC, okay? Tell him you'll come, but you won't fifteen hundred quid a day. Right. So thinking, I would just say, okay throw in the bin like I'm back and said, yes, so I went now think I went free times thing to help them with this, this atop everything and testing die were happy. They did improve the drivers liked it. The TC two thousand call they race down there competitive series. And. And then they came back to, to me at the off that will you come to a rice with us in the. Yes. Okay. We can do that same deal. And it was good. You know, I don't think it detracted a tool from what we were doing. We're British turn car. Roland did. But they, they came along to us and said, look next next year we've done to, to build a car around the borough, the are Bora. Would triple eight the based design workforce, and I agree to that as well. I mean it was. Wasn't money for a rope if you like, but it was, it was good money to, to keep us. Keep us going. And all that kind of thing I was I was very. No not concern. But we, we would getting reasonable money from Vauxhall, but we had fifty something fifty three people, I think, in that in that business solely doing British touring car in, and that worried me a little bit, you know, 'cause you're responsible for those people. And I was I was trying to find ways where we could. We would be okay even if we weren't winning in British touring car, we would still be okay. But unfortunately, the, the others didn't see the same same thing as me which is why go out of it as fantastic together in source. Thank you very much. Now. Thank you, for, for inviting may a help it lets out most been it's been fascinating seventy do checkout. Also dot com for latest from the world of Formula, one, and the rest of motorsport also be a huge amount of Lamont twenty four hour coverage on this weekend. Also, check out all plus strawberry, where for a small fee. 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Hour 2 - Earl Thomas and Michael Wilbon (11-05-19)

The Dan Patrick Show

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Hour 2 - Earl Thomas and Michael Wilbon (11-05-19)

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Sunny days per account were household offers subject to change offer valid for new Amazon prime members. Amazon prime has a twenty nine per month value restrictions. Apply see store for details and terms and conditions broadcasting from the Mercedes Pancake and he deserves. This is Dan Patrick. Our two on this Tuesday. Dan and the DANETTES. Dan Patrick show down on a Danette Seton with the trial of the century. Still on jury duty. Although we're not quite sure if he's on trial but he says that he will be back with us tomorrow. We'll talk due to the Ravens Safety Earl Thomas. He'll join US coming up momentarily. Michael Wilpon from ESPN pardon. The interruption. J. Watt of the steelers. Reggie Miller will join us as has well. I saw an unbelievable stat with Tom's he just had his thirtieth career interception active players. Most career interceptions options Richard Sherman as thirty-five keep to lead thirty five. trae Mon Williams thirty to earl. Thomas is there at thirty so he he got his thirtieth career. Interception in only three active players have more career interceptions stat of the day to Day Dad. The day stat of the day here comes that what stat of the day. But that's not the stat of the day. Hey the stat of the day. Is the following active defensive players most career games without a sack Jonathan. Joseph one hundred ninety three games. Earl Thomas has never had a sack in his career. That seems hard to believe. I got one hundred thirty. Three Games without Lissack for Earl Thomas. Even though he's got thirty interceptions yes I have him with none career sacks he almost had one the other day in a blitz. I know against Brady. But isn't that amazing. Wouldn't wouldn't you thought that he had at least fifteen. Like I. Go back to Rodney Harrison. Who I think should be in the hall of fame? I don't think he's GonNa get in but he had I think he Ian Ray Lewis the only players in defensive history thirty career sacks thirty career interceptions thirty sacks for a defensive back is incredible edible but thirty interceptions but Earl Thomas. I was really surprised at eight seven seven three. DP show email address DP. Dan Patrick Trick Dot COM mclovin. You want to update the poll results from the first down. So I put up that question about. Who's considering the bachelor? I mean back right now. Choices being McCaffrey Zeke saquon Barkley Davin Cook. And just we love by Nick. Job But McCaffrey seventy one percent. Then Zeke second a ten percent so okay. Who would you start your team with? I I think McCaffrey would win. That will be so hot right now. I don't know it feels like people still look at Saquon Barkley because he saquon Barkley. He's like Barry Sanders. He's really talented on a team. That wasn't very good and then we always looked at 'em and said berries better than Emmett an image running behind that offensive line and got a better team and he's going to have more career yards but Barry Sanders was considered a better running back Emmitt Smith in my opinion. So you might. I don't know maybe we look at Saquon and Kazuko Elliott. That way that they're the Barry Sanders emmitt Smith of today's NFL. Let's bring in the native of Texas and he's Earl Thomas who went at the University of Texas the Great Defensive Back for the Ravens Earl. I didn't realize you didn't have a sack. You haven't had a sack in your career. How's that possible right? So you know they never they never blitz me So I'm trying to up and trying to get this on my bill You know we have been doing a great job job trying to give me my first second my career. But it'll come. Well you almost had it with Brady right. Yeah I was. I was close. But you know he wanted to throw it away. Did you obvious goes. Did you say anything to Brady No it was more he already understood. And we Kinda gave the A A- At what point did you realize that you guys were better than the Patriots on Sunday night worldwide who we could preparation we were talking about. You know that we were going to win but we just kind of stayed humble with it. You know we. We definitely didn't WANNA give Tom any bulletin board material But we we understood that we had a great chance to win but once we got there we we the Florida game and store really. Well we we knew we had a chance to win. What are you trying to force brady to do? Well we we. We talked by great team defense and we didn't want him to step up in the pocket so pocket it's like seven or seven because it kind of opens up for them so we want to keep pressure in his face and I just saw these days. Are you allowed to hit Lamar Jackson. No have you have you hit Lamar Jackson. I would never hear the more drexel but even in practice like you're not allowed to like you get close and then you got to even if he runs. You're not allowed to touch. You can touch him. That's it no we were we were. We wouldn't want to touch a prize right there. Nobody even you close to. Who Does he remind you of? I would say Maccabi. Obviously Michael Vick Obviously I think big was left handed. And he's right that's because I think And I saw Michael Vick said you know. He's he's not like me he's better than me. Is Lamar better than Michael. Vick right now well football so you know. If it'd be the best I believe. So why do we get caught up in this era where we think that the quarterback now how has to be one of those guys who stays in the pocket. When I look at Mahomes I look at the Sean? I'm looking at Lamar. Cuyler Murray like the new quarterback is the guy who is kind of extending place. Russell Wilson may be the MVP so far this year so as a defensive back would you rather face the guy in the pocket or the guy who is going to be on the move. A little bit. I just I the guy's GonNa just stand there just staring instead of worrying about a guy that's gonNA put pressure no dog game. I ain't gonNA test your conditioning with scrambling all day very tough and it puts a lot of pressure pressure. I wrote back in. We're trying to your plaster When when the players happen so I would rather play a qubit stands out of pocket? He's Earl Thomas. The Raven Even Safety Chris Collins Worth brought this up on Sunday night that he thought that maybe there was a tell with Lamar Jackson that he would dry off his hands before he'd have a pass play as a safety. How often do you run into a player a quarterback who has a tell where you know if he's GonNa throw or not Kinda come through our the preparations You know our our coaches do a great job of Breaking down to us so we have a feel for it before we before we city the name okay. Can you tell me without telling me names like what was it on a quarterback that you've had you don't have to give me names but the last time you faced a quarterback and you go. I know what he's doing right well. It doesn't necessarily three quarterback it can be online and his stance like okay. Oh Norma's run a pass so they could be ten as well. Where's your super bowl ring? My Dad has does he wear it shows it all goes out to the club. Bari goes down. The grocery store and outstanding doesn't matter where he's at Man Up to everybody and in SEATTLE seahawks stadium probably has a finger when we look back in history. How do you think will view that Seattle secondary or if you want to be inclusive with the Seattle defense? Where where do you think we put them with? Great defenses fences of all time up to like the conversation of one of the best overdo. It so that's the medicine me. But how did you guys because it felt felt like you guys were in. I don't know if this was something you did consciously you were going to be physical almost daring the officials to throw a flag was that the approach uh of secondary played. Yeah so we knew. He was very aggressive We wanted to use streets And so we. We really couldn't just worry about so if we if we got pilion not every day we have a lot of plug in and not change what we play you went to patriots again in the plans. Of course if the if that happens you know we gotta go through. We've gotta do it again. 'cause I wonder about that when you play somebody during the regular season then you face him in. The postseason is their advantage to the team that lost during the regular season. Well it could be but I don't think this situation because us We like I said we're GONNA stay humble with it. We know we know that we had a great win. But you know what are we. What are we WANNA name along the finest But for them Extra motivation Brady bring my a better grasp on how we move. ooh I like our chances. I still get a kick out of that. You Mad Bro Video. I don't like did you ever talk to Brady about that after that game somewhere. You and Richard. Were you mad bro. You know we're we're so young Gambro and we didn't even know what was going on. We're just talking I do. Have you ever discussed that with him. Did you ever apologize to him to say man. I'm sorry disrespected. You like that. No no no no. I don't think I don't think he took it like okay. I think I think he took him more. He knew he was competing. And I. He loves football field but he me up all the time when I G oh you mean about three game and told me regrets. I've had a really good game and that's why respective. Oh guys like that. So after Sunday's game that he sent you messages somebody mentioned algae It was telling me I played a great game. It was it was it was fun to play those cool. How many interceptions you've got against him to it? Would you dare ask him to sign the. Footballs no I'm not the Creator Bro. Come on that would be okay when when you're all said and done and you run into Brady. Say Hey Bro. Could you sign these big about. Yeah you got a little bit of time before that happens hey earl CONGRATS and get a sack against the bengals this weekend. Okay it's the bengals roles. Tell her to let you go a couple of times our thank you. That's Earl Thomas. I'm now bro Like Earl Thomas there for awhile was a bad dude. I mean it was great pickup by the Ravens and to have somebody that's smart. Who is your quarterback your defense playing center field but the fact? He doesn't have a sack. Like I read that I go. No no no. He's got. This is wrong. He's probably said zero and I said no he's probably got twenty and and then I got maybe ten and I realize he doesn't have a sack. Yup you're talking safety stats. I look back because you know how much of an Ed Reed Guy I am. Ed read his career. He only had six sacks which is good for safety. Ed Reed had sixty four interceptions hall of fame twice Ed Reed and there are quite a few of these players that you have like Rod Woodson to me. He got the knee injury and then he came back after that but Rod Woodson played played safety but he also was a lockdown cornerback. Shutdown cornerback as well. There's there's quite a few of those defensive players where you ed read to me is one of my favorite players. Volta Taught I thought he was exceptionally bright. Any made you pay. Whenever he had an interception he was taken it back? His mindset was interception touchdown touchdown and there was just something about him that he played that position. He wasn't afraid he was going to hit you but he was extremely bright. I thought he was the best defensive player on that Ravens team. I know Ray got a lot of the plot. It's got a lot of the headlines. A lot of the coverage to me. Read the bad dude there on the Defense Yeah Apple. Edward returned seven interceptions for touchdowns two touchdowns he ed reed to touchdown returns over one hundred yards. Yeah two of them. Who else is on that list? Though when you look at Great Secondary Guy Safety guys you know because he had Ronnie Lott. Darryl Green was a corner Ronnie Lott sort of the godfather of a free safeties right the way he played these sort of. That's where you pay dommage to you. Kiss the ring of Ronnie Lott. Hopefully it's not on the finger that got amputated. Yes boy. I would. Brian Dawkins for the eagles impact player. That kind of ran. That defense disgrace Steve. Atwater for a while was that way with the broncos. He hit people any going back Kenny. Easley with again they usually have about four or five year run because of the damage they do to themselves. I think earls only thirty I say only but you know you had the broken leg mclovin your hard hard hitting safeties can exist anymore. You know I don't think they Rodney Harrison couldn't play in today's game the way he played about Mark Jackson yesterday. Brian Dawkins ended ended. Michael Vick's running from all intent purposes with his helmet. I mean you said those guys were attackers. Did you just really can't anymore. Well even plays over the middle. Where where you have to let up on a wide Receiver Kam? Chancellor might be the last guy who was one of those guys right. Could that happen today. I mean it could but it would have been acted. Yeah you know that then you have targeting there yeah Paulie Bob Sanders Guy with the colts. Four really good years. Yeah Bob Sanders was on those under-sized guys you always made big plays and that was it like one day you tune in you. What happened to Bob Sanders? Not I don't know we not around around anymore. I mean he was around just wasn't playing anymore. Some tweets here by the way if you want to tweet us at at DP show you. You're talking about realignment if the chargers moved to London how about put the chargers in the AFC East Miami AFC South Houston to the AFC west. WHOA WAIT WHY WOULD I put Houston in the West and put the chargers in the east? Am I putting them if they're in London. If that's the case then yeah that makes so that makes a Lotta Sense. So thank you Bert. Who sent that in the chargers would go to the AFC East yes mclovin they got an shake AFC south? I'm tired of the he south. Why don't I don't know if you can approach it that way and say boy because if you're going to shake up anything you got to shake up the AFC east? Oh definitely I mean. They played Dallas. WHO's in the southwest into the NFC? So they could. I know it's tradition. But you could do whatever you want a lot but I feel like the jags Texans Colts and what if it felt like the colts were legitimate with Andrew luck last. Yeah in Leonard in and you had running game and and you you had a good offensive line. So that felt like that they were. They were a good team. They were good balanced team. Good defense good offense you know maybe not. AFC South that. We've come to expect you know Jacksonville. We thought was going to be there for a little while with that defense in that talent and Lil Leonard Fournette in there. The Texans I'm I'm still not sure what the Texans and just not Andrus Ileana. The Great Andrew Sicilian Cillian sends out a tweet. Everybody points to the buffalo bills schedule. What about the cowboys? Buffalo six wins have come against teams with a nine hundred forty one record. Dallas is five wins have come against teams with an eleven and thirty one record. So they're mclovin. Take what did I do when you were ripping on the bills. Yes yesterday saying they haven't paid. Anybody played anybody fact. Yeah the cowboys. To the CA- I walk away from last night's cowboys game thinking that cowboy seem was proven. They they don't seem to play well in New York but I don't know do you look at who you played or how you've played and I know that they they're they they're connected. But how do I assess who was good. If if you haven't played anybody we deem that you haven't played anybody. Well you have to judge like for example well the seahawks beating Atlanta and a close game beating Cincinnati and a close game Tampa beating beating them in a close game. Looks at that. And says we're GONNA make you a touchdown. Underdog to the niners. There's because they don't buy you know like you should be able to blow those teams out if you're good. But do we know more about the Ravens or the Patriots after that game on Sunday night because it feels like we know a little bit more about the Ravens when we do the Patriots the average Shorto I was about say. I don't know what we know about the Patriots because I A- As I said in the Cleveland game was in progress. I go they can run the ball in these and you had trouble fumbled it and you know they had these stupid Motion penalties but they. I think they could have played toe to toe with New England. I think Cleveland could've now granted you know coaching and quarterbacking backing penalties. You're not going to beat them. You can't beat them if you if you don't have consistency there and they didn't. But they had the the they had the opportunity to beat them and I do think that they're vulnerable running and we saw that with the Ravens not that ballot check won't shore that up. That's where you go blah. I'd love to you. See the Patriots and Ravens go toe to toe again in the playoffs. Love to see what he would do with Lamar Jackson this time around beating the Patriots twice a year tough. How many times has that happened happen? I'll ask that in the last twenty years. How many times does that happen beyond mclovin a say in theory? You'd think that Baltimore do exactly what they did again. They ran for two hundred and ten yards average. Five I point one yards a carry. It's not like the Patriots going to add a bunch of good defensive players for the year's over are they going to give me a scheme their way out of this one. There's GonNa be a shootout. They'll they'll they'll scheme at Baltimore's got rough schedule ahead to their. They might come back down to earth just based on schedule. There's no guarantee they got the they have to play the diners at the rams. It's a Texans. Yeah at the bills which is a really tricky spot. So they're gonNA have to prove you know. I Don t them thirteen and three team. No no no no right. So they're are going to be right. I mean they might might be ten and six eleven and five. That wins that division. But you know Pittsburgh is still. I know they got injuries. You don't have a running back. But but they're still they're they're they're still dangerous and Cleveland will get it right. I think if they don't then they'll be in store for new head coach next year that that's my gut feeling by the Ravens. And they're sees it at Cleveland at home against Pittsburgh you think they'd have it wrapped by them but might come down to that final game name. Maybe and you get home field advantage. Like how good are you going to be because you want New England. Come to your place going one up there although they've won before up there yeah polling. If you're a browns fan do you want to finish eight and keep your head coach for another year or would you rather really stumble get a decent draft pick and have a total excuse to move on to a new head coach. We've talked about this before but the cowboys if I'm not GONNA win the if I'm not gonNa make the playoffs then I would look cat. Do I WANNA keep this head coach here right. And if he goes eight and finishes the season with close to a winning record by another year which. I don't think a browns fan wants no. I think he could do that where they win. Let's say they win five five of their final eight games. There you go eight. Weren't they. Seven and nine with all kinds of hope if they go eight and eight they actually improve. But it'll feel like it'll be a big disappointment it they're all right we'll take a break. Michael will bond from pardon the interruption. We'll stop by and We'll talk to him right after this twenty two after the hour. Dan Patrick Show. Everybody's got to do this. Yes I get one from my wife. Drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk figure out something to get out of the house. So I can relax. Here's an idea. Let's add save. 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Worked out on the same day in Los Angeles Joe Montana at Ucla. I know Joe into Notre Dame but he was working on at Ucla he worked worked out Ronnie Lott in the morning. And then Kenny Easley in the afternoon and then he worked out Joe Montana so he takes a lot. First Round Montana. Third round can easily turns out to be a hall of fame so three Hall of famers. Bill Walsh worked out in the same day in Los Angeles. Let's bring bringing Michael Wilbon Co host. Pardon the interruption also covers the NBA for the mothership. You can follow him on twitter and Instagram at Real Mike Wilbon Wilbon Movin. How are you today? Good man how you doing. I'm doing. Okay how Mr Tony's nationals. You know what I mean. He's He couldn't next stay up and watch the Games for himself. Technology had to help them the next morning but You know as I told you we had dinner last night. I said you know you. You better figure out some way to celebrate. Enjoy this because who knows if it'll happen even if you'll have your one of your four aces or your. MVP THIRD BASEMAN ACE men. You don't know where this is going so you better stop being soured enjoy it. I don't know if they registered wait like did he not stay up till the end of game seven. No no no and he vowed he would. It was seven Dan because you know there were there were games in which you know. The drama was crazy and it was late and I called a couple of times and his wife Carrollton. Should I wait. I want to wake him. I'm like I don't know but you're going to go nuts. He's got to get up at three fifteen the milk cows. They said he was gonNA stay up and watch seven I think he got five innings so no not even seven. I mentioned this yesterday where it feels like. I know less now than I did a month ago with the NFL like here. We are at the halfway point. I don't I don't know what I'm supposed to know right now. WHO's great? WHO's not who's looking out for in the second half? They had an easy schedule in the first half you sold on Garoppolo with the niners. You know the cowboys where where do you stand on the halfway point in the NFL. Season Dan I think that's because that's what had that reaction a week ago. I think because this is a lot of bad football people. Don't talk about that. They'll talk about if it's bad basketball. We'll talk about the baseball. She has something wrong. They don't WanNa talk. They don't want to deal with that with football. They just want their football. They don't want to examine the quality of it. It was a lot of bad football but I mean I think I think I know actually I think I do know that San Francisco is this good. I mean just good meaning not sixteen good but I don't know fourteen and two good and I think despite fight the Patriots losing a game. They're going to still be thirteen. And three. Or whatever you know I mean even the teams that we trust are few and far between but but that's okay because few and far between the earned our trust And there are some teams out there. That are just. I don't know just ought to be wildly lead disappointed in this season's that happened in that. One of those teams is the Wind Chicago which I wrote a four my entire life and Cleveland browns headline they showed him me because everybody was so stupid as to invest a level of trust in them as if they were you know the steel curtain or some. I'm great team from a bygone era. The Cleveland Browns. And you're like what are you. What do you what do you people seeing? What are you putting your trust in? But I so I think because they're more of those those teams that second group that we were still hesitant but I think we know what the good teams are now. Yeah but Mike. If Cleveland goes five and three in the second half of the season ended ended up eight eight which is a game better than last year. That's improving obviously. But that's that'll be a disappointment in Cleveland. This will be expecting to go five and three. I don't I don't think any good now. They're scheduled lightens up a little. Yeah so maybe they can. Maybe that's manageable. But they need for team. That actually believe its own hype and the quarterback that they've got I mean I think that's still a massive disappointment for them anything less than making the playoffs with the way they started and they believed it clearly. They bought all the hype themselves. And it's like really. I am baby pretty kitchens just in over his head This was too much for him but I certainly you know I love seeing what's happened to the Brown what they thought of themselves coming into the season if I if I gave you the power to pull the ripcord on Mitchell trubisky and you bring in. I'll give you Andy Dalton but you say goodbye to Mitchell trubisky. Yeah done and then I was not trubisky guy from the beginning right live mostly here to Washington. ACC see country so she was not as foreign a name to people who live on watch. ACC football a little bit as he might have been to other people you only had whatever it was ten or eleven starts and I thought and I just thought why are they trading up to get this guy if you think you see something you WanNa take him five. There's no one battling for position to Dr Mitchell trubisky. Why are you giving? What other people in the form of draft picks who should be pro bowlers wohlers but Mike? The bears were in competition with common sense. That's who they were fighting. Yes that's it. They're fighting common sense to trade up to get Mitchell trubisky. How did you watch how can you? How can you do this professionally? I think the answer but hockey you do this professionally Dan and you take Mitchell trubisky over. We're both to Shawn Watson and Patrick Mahomes. Now it's it's it's read out. I mean Watson to me didn't make any that you can't pass up on him I I know that everybody now revisionist history with Mahomes and I give all the credit to Andy Reid because he saw it he. He played his cards. Great there was mixed reviews. Dis- Shawn Watson. was everything that you ask and a quarterback these smart good kid. He was big in big games there have been at the previous level. What he can do? Yeah and you know what Mitchell trubisky was like. I look at Mitchell trubisky. The Way I do Daniel Jones. If if I watch your games and I don't remember you know it's it's not and that was the point that I was like an you traded up to get him traded up. That's the part. The trading up makes it just egregious agrees mistake and and you know people so now Dan. I see these questions. You know all these panels whatever network talking about pro football and it's the bears have to stay with Mitchell trubisky. Of Of course they do. They don't have anybody else. Chafe Daniels is not a a real quarterback he was. He would've played some time time since. Two Thousand Fifteen. No draft picks either and no draft picks and no money. Because you've committed it all elsewhere and by the way it's understandable that you don't have those those things 'cause you when when when they rested last year they thought they had all the pieces. It looked like they did. And let me say this about the trubisky episode. I'm not so sure Bisky can't play for anybody. I think the bigger problem in Chicago. The bigger problem is the head coach and like. Don't tell me that somebody's gotTA fit your system. This is what I think is the biggest problem the NFL. Now as I look through the coach I see stuff like I mean Matt Patricia. Somebody that people think really can't coach. How do you run that? Play down after the raiders. Have stupidly called time out Jon GRUDEN and you don't have gone on the field. How do you do that? How is that the House that guy not skewered because people don't even criticize it coaches? They just go out to players. He's coaching to me is as bad as ever been in my lifetime in the NFL. He's Michael Wilbon pardon. The interruption co close covers the NBA as well for ESPN ABC. Speaking of which Reggie Miller is on in a little less than an hour and after Lebron's performance against Inch Dallas. I text reg to say this is why Lebron is better than Kawhi Leonard and he came back and said you know Colli career. I said Lebron's career averages are a wise career year yeah if collide didn't win the NBA title okay. Would we be have this coronation. That he's the best player in the NBA. Nobody did I know but I I kinda like I would take Lebron with you. I would say Lebron this this year I think Lebron is going to. He's playing defense. He's in better shape. He's Got Anthony Davis and I think he's he's a little a bit of an underdog this year and I think that's a dangerous place for Lebron. I think that works for him. In a Lotta ways yes yes yes. I agree with every one of those check but why right Dan. Here's where this is why I will never go all in with analytics or the use of any numbers. Leonard has a greater impact on a game on both ends of the floor than anybody in the game today and last year when he when he's out there about load management and. I know that Lebron on look at Mount Rushmore basketball. Lebron is but what I thought Hawaii with my own eyes last year. And remember this. If if the San Antonio Spurs get a rebound one rebound late in the game the last nine second why. Leonard has three titles and and Lebron has to and what would we. What would we say? Then what will we say about the whole thing I mean it's I but I do agree with you that that I think Lebron on is if he physically holds up and I I've had more people questioned that because like just older guys you and I covered forever. They say to me occasionally. Hey Hey hey I know what it feels like to try to do this. Thirty five or thirty six. Be careful and there's that that warning is out there and I'm going okay. Let me let me slow my roll just little title but I think I agree with you about Lebron by the way that aside in that game. Didn't you decide to Ladonna just one of the best players in the game right now. When you watch that that that Laker Dallas game tonight I always I look at somebody and say is the moment too big for you and it felt like I I could see that? He embraced the moment. He's going against his idol and not not nervous or afraid at all taking it to Lebron step back three rewriting his face and I went. Okay now. Now you've arrived. This is one of those. Hey cute little curiosity guy down there in Dallas. Now it's come on in You know I travel. I'll I'll put on a show at your place as well. His ability to in I think intelligence is is really what sometimes lost on these great players. You know Jordan Jordan was one of the most intelligent players I was ever around bird got more credit and he was the cerebral one. Mike was Intelligent so magic. Lebron extremely bright don-shik sees. He's the game and you can see that where you know. He He's thinking out there and Make sense what he's doing and Lebron commented on that post game name doors burke ask him and he he went there right away about the way he plays and what he sees. Yeah it's fun. It's it's it's it's fun to watch for the CO I. I think it's a conundrum for a lot of people Dan because he does not have the measurable that everybody has to have. Now order to make a certain argument. Demint and by argument is this guy wins a game like whatever he has to do. And you can I I. I was reminded of it really in the Milwaukee series and I'm like Yep Yep Yep Yep. He's the best player on the floor. And now he's the best player in the League. I don't I don't know I'm sorta just shy of that like okay. Take him over the Greek freak. Yeah 'cause the freak show me one thing and the next six to eight weeks old me right now a jumper. Yep you're already jumper. Dan Oh my God all my shoot before we would do those pregame shows. He's got he didn't have to beat three. It'd be three point deep. Dan GotTA in fourteen sixty eight people all him off. Because I don't know if the Greek freak is better than Anthony Davis when Bolan either okay because Anthony. Anthony Davis does have range. He's great at the line and they're both similar in size now. The Greek freak probably a better all around player with assists and blocks and steel. No Anthony Davis we forgot about and now people are getting introduced to him because now he's playing on a big stage with a guy who can you can bring out the best way off absolutely. So there's there's still as great as that holistic is that you mentioned and there's still a couple look questions and maybe they're minor questions. We questioned freaks heart or anything like that but he. He's got to have time. We get to April. We better see the shot so that when when they do. Toronto did to him and in the playoffs last year. You can say find Steph off me. I'll hit this and so I'm I'm looking forward to see whether whether he made that that'd just had to have been made over the summer but he can't be like You can't be like man on Philly. who was just afraid to to he? Just Kim pull the trigger on jump. Shot the guys want to know. They're asked me yesterday about Stephen a Smith's game and we were around Stephen a when we cover the NBA finals. So so you've seen both are shots if it's your journalist if there was a shooting contest between myself and Stephen a Smith where's your money and listen. I'm going straight stereotype. I gotta take the old white. Wait wait it just became racial came. Ray Wow wow way you know what though seriously Dan you know what I've seen you play much more and certainly going back to when you were still we know we we oh you know what do. NBA People covered the league. They don't play pick up anymore. We used to have to play pick up. I know well you know why that is though. And so I haven't seen Stephen Eight play as much as you would think even though we spent so much time together but then we first of all we were allowed into practice we were not there in suits and ties. We were there. In sweats took to shoot around or whatever a practice and then you have to actually play with like guys who didn't get any miniature. Remember that that that doesn't happen like do we know of anybody. Cover League can play anymore. I don't know but I know that there was the I think the Mary Downtown Chicago when the Bulls were in the finals and we played a basketball game there. Jackie macmullan Rick Bucur and it was on man. I loved it I was like it was great. 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FH Mini 10  Detectives! with John Hodgman and David Rees

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FH Mini 10 Detectives! with John Hodgman and David Rees

"Hey It's me. John. Hodgman hosted the flop another episode where we don't watch a movie and I come by for some reason I'm here with our friends Elliott Kaelin. Hi Elliot L. Hey John. I'm glad you've taken the reins. Dan McCoy I Dan Hey. Could you come to this every time because I don't know what I'm doing? And Stuart Wellington moving along. Oh Hey, how you doing great. Oh great to see. You are not see you, but here you. Are Extra special guest my my colleague friend. And collaborator in a project that we will be discussing later on in this episode David Reese. Hi thanks for having me John. That's my pleasure. Of course, the flop has comes to you every week for maximum fund dot Org with a discussion about a movie that did not do well, we usually. We sometimes do these mini episodes where we talk about whatever we want and that's all I know about them. You Know Dan get. Can you tell me what these many episodes are about well either pretty free form. We just do whatever we like although John It sounded like you were going to like March into a ad for lucky strike cigarettes or Some other old time radio sponsor. Right Our our our sponsor. This week is striker. Are you tired of going out to the Bodega cigarettes? Why not order them delivered to your home via the Internet striker S.? T. R. I K. R. it's the Internet Cigarette Company. We believe so much in these cigarettes that we bought the factory in Germany to send them to you. Now so all by the way Don. Don't smoke cigarettes or Joe. Thanks good, you come see. David resear- here in large part because they have a new show coming out called Dick town, and we'll get to that in a moment, but what I really want to talk about right now is now. David you probably don't recall I. met you once before at the the wedding of our mutual friend Mr Brock Mahan also Elliott's a very close friend. Nan when I recall about this is We had a pleasant interaction and then because it was a cash bar for some reason I offered to buy you a drink. Made Them Money Dan. Use Me if I if I could stand up for? Friends if there's anything one should have at A. Rock did not make a trillion dollars. Being a producer aren't going deep with David Rees. Yeah, no, we can all agree on. TV show that nobody watched. That did not give him open bar money. I'll cal. Step up and say that I. I was waiting for a moment to mention going deep with David Rees one of my favorite television shows of all time. Like. I mean I'll say is much much poorer. People than Brock have had open bars, but the point is i. I'm. Geoff and Sally income. Tax. s locate technically three people. That was the same wedding. poly-amorous wedding. Trae they did have an open barring the point, even open marriage was merely that slogan open open bar open marriage. Unspoken rule among threatful weddings open bar of course is request yeah. You GotTa get the parents on board. The parents on board loosen them up off. The a lot of parents to please you know ruin the day. I agreed to five bars a real guaranteed parent pleaser. Pleaser! Point of the story such as it was not much was that. Trust Fund. dilettante requires everyone to spend his there was. Not. Open Bar and I offered to by David a drink, because I had enjoyed his show so much going deep David Rees, and he looked at me like I was a crazy person, which is to be fair, a totally reasonable reaction to that. But that was our. That was our one meeting. This that makes me I'm sorry like. Maybe maybe I was distracted because I was watching the reception and I was really nervous. I can't say anything to you or did. Ask you this while you were Dj and it really three while. We were in the bar. The bars section of the the wedding I'm sure that you you you know you're doing a great job DJ. I'm sure you were distracted by animals sure. That I was a deeply awkward because that is my default, so I mean knowing Dan you probably started the conversation by complaining that he wasn't playing. Enough be saw. That was. Going deep with David Reese. Going the obvious choices with David Rees. I had been hired by Brock to to Dj his wedding, and at the time I was making a lot of mashups and. Brockett asked if I would play some mash ups for the people dancing. And I had made a couple using some songs that brock and his wife for Mel, really liked and I had made one. That I thought was really terrific. That worked really well, which was dancing on my own by Robyn with girls just WanNa have fun by Cyndi lauper. Along with I believe in a thing called love by the darkness. And I was playing it. and. Someone came up to me and said. Can you just play girls just WanNa have fun. I wanted dispute that. Warm Warm Memories of that wedding I'm I think you did agree great. Great wedding about I. Have I have fraught? Fraught memories and I no longer. To brocker Ramal and resent them forever. Just kidding. I I missed those guys. The so did you have any more grievances you WANNA? Dance said he had nothing but more memories, and he started by complaining about having. Unless they unless it's warmed by the fires of your Ray. If if anything, this was an apology to mysteries. For well, I have been an awkward position I was probably socially awkward to, and was probably scowling. Just because that's how my face usually is, and I'm sorry if you've spent a couple years. Thinking I was a crappy Dj in an unpleasant person. You're not the only person. I mean I. Anyone has has a grievance. It's me since I actually had requested to be the DJ in they asked for Mashups and I played them what I called Monster Mash, which is a mash up of the monster. Mash and suicide is painless. The theme song for. and. They said totally it didn't mix. And in retrospect they were right, but I thought the title really well. Totally, it didn't make also it sounded. Yes very much, so it was not danceable it which is ironic since the monster mash is a song about a dance. Right. Yeah and I guess suicide stainless is about the dance called war. Okay, so the point is we're? Credit, we're here to talk about. Detectives. today on the show. John and Dave. Would you please tell us about Dick? Town your upcoming program. Sir John Do you WanNa? Let's let's let's coordinate our media strategy. Who takes on this? Contest run. All right completely synchronized media strategy. I know John Alternate words. Here we go digging town is our. New Show. That premieres. On fx X.'s. Anthology of. Short form. Programming. Called cake. On. July. Ninth and Also? Available. On Hulu. The following. Day, House Great. Tight rope, but you you did. Episodes that way that was really successful and is impressed by the falling of and with also. Sick I was buying time. Beautifully beautifully done and so. If I if I understand correctly, it's a town where instead of people everyone's Aquinas. No that's we couldn't sell that version of it. They asked for something a little, less esoteric. Here's the deal. David reason I were invited invite. We were invited everyone. To come up with an idea for short form animated show. For fx excesses late night anthology show cake. And we have ninety. We wanted to do a animated show. About a detective show. In which my character! Named? Jon Huntsman. is a former prodigal boy detective Allan. Encyclopedia Brown. But now he has grown up and he's in his forties, and he saddened alone, and he's still solving crimes for teenagers. And David Reece's character David. Pure foy. Is My characters, former high school, bully and arch enemy. who also has failed to thrive and his hanging around this town? And he has now become my driver and sort of hired muscle and unlikely friend. And we go episode after episode solving various mysteries for teenagers in this town. Now. Lose the show with a lot of heart a lot of warmth. We knew therefore that affects and its parent company fx and its parent company F. Into it? And therefore, I had the idea. I'm sorry David to to claim this inspiration, so the longest word I've ever heard in my life. Was the one word description. Skidding going. So in any case, we had the idea. To to call it Dick Town. Dick as in detective. And also the fictional town in which the show is set is called Richards. Village North Carolina I and the locals call Dick down. And we thought that that would bring fx around. To A. Sort of subversive. Provocative point of view. And I worked. But now like I, don't like saying I. Don't like saints where we're telling saying Dick all the time. But now we have a show called dictum. It's called victim. I think the the the ad campaign. I saw four at route says she wants the D. in Parentheses Hick. Town has not helped with the Kinda. Heartwarming field saw those billboards. They you put them all up in my neighborhood, so it's really hard to. And My. What's that and I said? Don't look very has been. So much advertising throughout Hollywood. New York Chicago all across the country I. Mean People are by this point are incredibly tired of hearing about Dick town in their sponsored content on their instagram's. and. This is the last stop on the Dick Town. Tour the tour I. T T I. Would like to say. This is the sort of very hyper, specific esoteric, not relevant to the Zeitgeist of twenty twenty premise. That is catnip to me. The Guy I is exactly the thing that I love now are the because we made it, and that's because we made it in two thousand eighteen. Takes a long time. All about Charlottesville Virginia and the. House loop boy. Mysteries solved encyclopedia brand style in that they mostly depend on where penguins live which poll. Whether whether. Be At based solutions. Exactly. It's A. It's a mystery of the week and John's character Jon. Huntsman does know a lot of trivia I think. There's some bird related trivia in the pilot and actually there's some birds related. Clues! In the season finale. So he he's a well rounded well. Read Guy when in one episode he brags about his activity on good reads dot Com. But there's no replacing shoe leather you know and just elbow grease, and so there's a lot of research and interviewing suspects and driving around in my characters, Fiero, and tracking down leads and corralling people sometimes bullying them into telling us what we want to know. It's a mix of. A Mix of investigative paradigm. One of the headline one of the things that I always loved. About Encyclopedia Brown. Was the solutions. And you would go to the back of the book after you read the mystery to find the solution, the solution was always like. Encyclopedia Brown knew that the car hood. WOULD STILL BE HOT? If the if the villain had driven as far as he had, and therefore, the baby dancing on the car hood would have been burned. Horribly on his souls, or whatever the case of the dancing babyhood! And they always end with and so the were. Faced with the logic there alibi made no sense. The criminal confessed immediately to the crop. It should've always mean. He was sentenced to life in prison, and whenever I would read this to my son I would always change it to. And and faced with the with the illogic of his alibi in criminal, push the fourteen year old into the dirt. Ran Away got win. Well that's like in the beginning of all the books they'd be like you know. Wherever's I forgot Encyclopedia Brown real first name, but that his dad was the of police what? We run lever badly. Badboy Lee bad badly up because he would act out because he was bad, that's right. He's in the last book. They revealed that he was solving these minor crimes to cover up the fact that he was the crime king of the Midwest and he had this network of child thieves, but in the beginning of his be like police chief Brown wished that he could tell the world about his brilliant son was like. Why can't he hold on a second? I mean yeah. Because! Revealing that all of the The law enforcement of the town was had been sub subcontracted. Better to just take credit for his sons work in a big is type scenario I don't think so. No. If if chief Brown and by the way encyclopedias, Brown's first name is Lee. Rogers looked it up. If chief Brown had revealed that his son had solved every crime in Ida Ville. For the past. In impossible number of years because zone Encyclopedia Brown dime. Then immediately. There would be a call to defend the police. Get rid of the police department because they're not doing anything one middle schooler. Yeah I mean that's that's when we say abolish the police. What we're saying is replaced them with Encyclopedia Brown. Doing Surgery. For free. So. My tampons in the milkshakes. Today's news. I didn't make that up. THAT'S NOT A. Real I know. Removed from the headlines. Maybe maybe that'll be saved for season two, which comes out twenty, twenty-nine nine. The hardy boys also had a their dad was a detective, right? Oh, yeah, he was. who is Ed Hardy that the clothing right? He was detecting new fashions. Now my childhood child detectors of choice where the three investigators and I've mentioned this to just Stewart Alley before who were not familiar with this? Are Either of you? Three investigators men never heard of a mino-. With the called. That's what you called yourself and your brothers. It was it was Alfred, Hitchcock Brandon series. It was one of these things where like he put his name like in the early like oh episodes. He was like he funded them. I guess because they solved a crime for him, but mostly he was. No it was, it was a book series. It was a hardy boys esque series. Jupiter Jones was the the smart one, and then they had you know like I don't know how the Bush one or the tough guy. Yeah Chipper Jones. Plus Two is basically investigative. Jones and then John Marsh and then Bob Stevenson. Only Jupiter Jones had the really interesting name. Think Bob Crenshaw might have been I. Don't it's not even an important? I I was curious. Like there's this whole industry they're not. Those books up or not. Fever dream. Head of trying where Alfred Hitchcock was bankrolling some Middle School detectives. In Jupiter. I imagine this. Hashtag hitchcock is a canceled party. I I've a very vague member of the three investigators, but I think that kind of. Disdain them as an off brand imitator unlicensed Scott property if you will. Right. So that's where John Lands on it, he is a hater. Investigator Hater Yeah. Don't care for them? Cater Hater. Now you hidden eight investigators, not gators, not alligators right because there's a great. GATORS I. Say. The allegation is great. It's like the closest where we're going to get to a dinosaur. Yeah I'm Elliott I think I think urged Elliott. Dan Don't be both pedantic and naive. You being pedants, because yes, birds are dinosaurs that have evolved to be tiny, and can fly some of the time and morons alligators. However they've got the thing that dinosaurs really have going for them, which is size and teeth? Those two. That was the second thing I was going to say yeah. They got those big teeth. You can wrestle them. He can't wrestle a bird. Look like a crazy person wrestling alligator do that right in the middle of Fifth Avenue. We would love it I would like to take issue with the implication that you just made. That are dumber than dinosaurs. Do you. Do you believe this to be true? Sir One hundred percent, one hundred thousand percent sir. All right I think you're. By, the clever girls you saw a little movie called Traffic Park. That was it was? It wasn't not a clever girl was a clever. Ever seen. Have you ever seen a bird that one? You would consider clever and to. You would be so informal with as a call girl. Out Elliot Win, yes, Sir May I say fuck? You! Say highlight quite sure why flies but. I. I mean I. I don't I. Don't know what I mean I I believe the standards on your show is the swearing allowed right encouraged. Right then how fucking dare you? The the core, the core vid family of birds. We're talking about Cros. Talking about Ravens. Are Incredibly Intelligent. They've been proven time and again they're. They're capable of manipulating. Manipulating things into tools. They re they remember faces. They hold grudges, and they teach their grudges to their young. I consider myself a corvette at heart. Tomorrow I'm going to train. My young told a grudge against your face. Because those are those are smart birds does that's very smart? It's not quite you having a novelty song about how you gotTa. Love them because they're at the baby, but that's pretty smart. Dinosaurs smart. Those aren't dinosaurs deserve? Pigeons can navigate by architecture. Go on. That's it. Microphone Yeah and meanwhile David Reese. We saw some alligators in Florida when we took a fan boat ride. Oh my God. What were they doing just lying around in the mud? Waiting for an alternate sunning themselves. Genius does the geniuses. Why am I busting my ass work in day in day out when I just lay out here when government pay me just to stay home, I make more money with this covert stimulus than I ever did it. My job, exactly classic alligator thinking. Alligators. You're saying when you were taking that fan boat. You actually ask those alligators for directions and they couldn't give them to you because they can't navigate by architecture. Because swamp was filled with skyscrapers and. There's too many buildings here. We don't know where we are. We're looking for. We're looking for an example of the Bow House Style and Not! Brutal spilling now John David Quick Quick Quick Tangent to shadow David Reece's podcast election profit makers. which is the number one the number one podcast for all of your election? ORIENTED RESULTS BETTING NEEDS It's A. It's a weekly podcast between David Starlet. Colleen and David friend from Middle School and North Carolina John Kimball. Talking about the the various investments, they're making on the political markets on predicted dot org, but there's a huge sideline to the podcast talking about the best skylines in the world. I'm going to tell you something right now. Those alligators don't know. You don't know the skyline looks like they. Can you know what I mean day hard just surely. Only familiar with the brand. And before we move on I, do want to ask one question regarding. Rick No. Pretty packed-agenda Dan I. Have a question regarding this fan boat tour now on your tour as as happened on my tour, I don't WanNa Brag that I've got fan boat tour money, but but apparently not. Wedding bar drink well. No, that's right. That's the opposite. I was complaining about it, but I was I was. Again McCoy Open Bar Fan. Point Fam-. Lobby? Bar Fan Boy Bar Fan book tour. I just wanted to know whether on your tour. As on my tour, the guide used a giant marshmallows to get the alligators to come. No. Way? Marshmallow shooter. Davis face was so disgusted by the I was told that because it was like a bigger contrast against the water, the white marshmallow that the alligators we come. To the boat and have. Yeah. He doesn't mean it that way Stewart. We're not we're not orgasmic. Very I mean. That's whether so lazy road. I'm. Actually eat marshmallows. Closer to investigate it. No, they loved these marshmallows, alligator, ten sweet tooth or several. Sad to think about animals eating processed food. We did not have the marshmallow. Lure! We were offered plastic tubs. Of marshmallow fluff to throw at the alligators. And we did that. Just bounce them off. Their heads CLUNK clunk clunk. Over and over again the alligators. What what? Sorry, what's the skyline? I, don't even know. Stupid. So, guys I've never written. TV show. Yeah, but was there a point when you were thinking about making the main character a dinosaur? There there's there's a movie that I'm thinking of. Is it Theo Iraq and I don't know the name of it. Save Again Theodore Rex with Whoopi Goldberg where she partnered with a with a dinosaur. With. Detectives that's a real movie. It set in the future. We'll be Goldberg's a future cop and she's partnered with a clumsy dinosaur cop, and it's the movie that I believe the producers had to sue her to force her to appear in it because it's weird, though because dinosaurs. anonymised Elliott. Animated. It is a live action film the. Sit. Little tired. It's like a human sized transfers racks sneakers I. BELIEVE I've been. I've been dialing up a photo, so we can all I don't know if that. That really looks like one of those movies they make. Wow, yeah, it looks like the background of a movie. Yeah, right, you can tell from that poster. That has an attitude. You know. We're not as creative as the people with Theodore Rex. It's all humans in our in our world okay. Okay okay! Sorry if I ruined your promotions here, guys know. You're. In the heart of our show, but that's fine. We can figure that out. Usually, Stewart they don't when they're promoting something, they don't want the host to give a glimpse of something more beautiful. That might be. But. I I really appreciate. David Reece's incredibly professional. Segue back to promoting our show. But he can go back to theodore rex for a second. That is a movie that I never watched even though I worked in a video rental place when it came out I could have easily watched it five times for nothing. Has Anyone ever said? I've seen clips of it. I've never seen it all the way through. Yeah, the the the VHS fascinated for me for years, but I've never seen it. No, I read the book. But that's volume two of Edmund Marris's Theodore Roosevelt series. So that's not related to the film at all. All right I know Robert Gets option and then twenty years later they finally make something up just like a game of telephone, and it just becomes something so completely different. They're like any good news. They're finally pulling the plug on Theodore Rex the story of his presidency. Yeah, they made a few changes right. Now Job Carter. There's an book series at least one book about a world where there's a dinosaur that is a detective and wears a human suit at because dinosaurs are secretly still living among us with the wear human suits to blend in my dorm board. It's called and I have not read it. Kids just no, it is not for kids. It's a three piece suit. Like human mask. Published Erotica that kind of stuff that you see on, Amazon? Is it like that? I haven't read it so I'm going to have to assume yes. No No it was a real book from a real publisher that the dinosaur erotica is hilarious though. No, but by the by Velociraptor, whatever that's the title. Based on the powerbroker by Robert Carol, but it just took. Over the years Bobby Bobby cares. We got some good news. They're finally making that. Power pulled the trigger on that powerbroker book row. Good who's going to play Robert Caro? ooh, he's not in it anymore. And when I say that that that a dinosaur Roddick Klarius I mean to judge were little. Those who are aroused by dinosaur erotica really say that it to me. It is a humorous assemblage of parts. Look I, mean L.. Let's say let's let's say this. Even normal sex is hilarious late on us. Unless. You're like the person involved in it and you're like super into it like it is objectively hilarious and like. I feel I. Feel Bad. I use the word normal sexes. If there such a thing as normal, there's not just north like all sex I meant to say is hilarious from from all the humorous assemblage of parts. Let's. Say, I forget what stand up, was it? Was it like Rita? Redner someone who referred to. This, the flop house before and forgotten, but referred to a naked man is looking like a half decorated Christmas tree and I've always thought that was such a funny line. And like we'll think about it while I'm getting changed and I'm like yeah. kind of what it feels like right? There's a time during quarantine whereas like I'm just going to embrace the fact that I'm forty two years old and I'm not gonNA. Worry about the fact that I'm walking nude through my home, wearing woollen slippers. Should worry about that a little bit. You know what I've got a pot belly. I'm making, but for footwear and I don't care. Is it cold where you are. Why are you wearing? We'll slippers. I'm glad I'm glad you asked. Wear slippers because I do not like the feeling of like dirt, being picked up on my feet, and I have hardwood floors in. Yeah, no matter how clean you get your floors. You're just GONNA. Get like credit on your feet so okay. The. Active in me just felt like something wasn't adding up with that. That's right. You know you, gotTa. You gotta follow got unravel every clue. Also any any detective would notice that the lint on dance feet. Matches only one apartment in all of Brooklyn You'll be. You'll be picked for the. For, the suspect immediately, because he was walking around with Dan McCoy lint floor lint on his feet. I mean speaking of detectors which was originally ready for this many. Ominous anonymous REX is the name of the novel Elliott Anonymous. Rex Okay, thank, you bye. To me was hilarious. Sorry, go on I'm not I don't. Honestly that that novel is not I. Don't think related to Theodore Rex, anyway. Other than no also positing world where humans dinosaurs coexist, but not unlike a biblical way just in like A. Film Noir Type Way. Okay right it was. It was followed by a prequel called casual rex. Due to. A. Sequel called hot and Sweaty REX. Going back around to dinosaur porn. Rex Baby Sorry I just. Wanted to. Rump Shaker. Yeah and then, and then of course last homosexual. All I WANNA. Do is solve mysteries in a human suit. I'm anonymous REX. That's a that's a song, right? Yeah. So Dan Detectives I am a big Fan of Sherlock Holmes as our. Millions of people over the years but like. He made a huge impression on me and I just love Glenn. Sherlock Holmes was a child. He made an impression on you. When I was okay. Because I was GONNA say he's GonNa Love Encyclopedia Brown. All of my heroes were outdated figures as a child I love short combs. I Love Robin Hood But I n Prime, Minister Disraeli. Voltaire. No I, just I. I loved that there would be these things where there would be dirt on someone. Choose and homes would be like. Oh, I wrote a monograph on the different types of dirt in London. An expert like anything that would come up. Homes wrote a monograph on it. You know like Oh. This is pipe ash and I know exactly what type of pipe bash this is and. Look I. Don't I don't have a problem with it like the like the beauty of the homestore's always that the characters were so. Like indelibly written and lovable for their for all homes arrogance, but it was like kind of an early example of like Oh this character will have whatever superpowers necessary at the moment. Yeah and you know the the appeal of homes to I think is. very powerful. because he presents as a highly competent and successful. sexless, weird, and as I was sexless weird. Growing up and arguably still. The the detective, the detective who was able to? Live outside of society is I. Think Most Classic Whodunnit Detectives Do? And connect. Connect the dots to explain how humans live and exist. And and yet remain apart from them. That was very. Seductive to me like. I can I can see how humans interact with each other, but I don't have to be a part of them, and I'll describe what kind of. What kind of dust is on their suit jacket or whatever? I think I think that's an interesting point. Because like I do think that the most. Sort of lovable detectives are the ones that seem to exist most apart from society like for instance there is a there's a reason. Why does eight like funny troop that budget detectives live off on houseboats somewhere because that's. Take it away, John. You have a thing on this. Did you have a tight five and houseboats? Just, that my character in Dick town. John John Hundred lives on a houseboat that same. What's the name in a boat? That's there's a big reveal. Earlier in the penultimate episode I. Don't tell me don't tell me it is. It is unnamed, but then the name is revealed at the end. Based on Travis McGee Books Right John Because. You were a big travis McGee Fan. Well, it was it was two things because you David really wanted to create A. Simon and Simon type TV show, right. To Simon. Inspiration something yeah, guys, hanging out on the water like in that space between the water and the land I guess is that Simon and Simon hardcastle and McCormick Miami Vice. He lives on a boat on a houseboat. That's right. Right! And and Travis McGee is a famous. Essentially a detective created by Johnny McDonald. In the late sixties through the early eighties twenty five to five hundred novels, and he always lives on a houseboat, and so he as you say Dan. He like he lives apart. From Regular Society and in Dick Town. the character that I play Jon Huntsman. Gets a houseboat specifically because he wants to be that kind of detective, it's it's a sad aspirational purchase for him. It's not it's not that the actually lives on the on the limits of of civilization want. He wants to pretend that he does so. No, that's that's of. It was that his way. Is that his way of becoming a like a grownup detective whereas he was like a like a kid detective. Yeah, he thought he thought this was going to be buying house with. The next step into becoming. An adult, you would eventually have adult. But that never materialized for him, and he just kept working for teenagers and ended up being weirder and weirder and legitimately more and more outside of mainstream society. Only as one friend who has David David pure play by David Rees. The appeal of houseboats I think is kind of focused on teenagers like I think. The older you get, the more nervous you get about the idea of going to somebody's house. That is also a boat. In Zodiac does Robert Downey junior character wind up on a house boat. House about just pong all day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, speaking of good. Who lies in that movie and it's a great movie. Such a terrific movie. Yeah, and there's put on it. And the books that I've been reading a lot of in quarantine. The Jack reacher novels by Lee Child. Jack, reacher doesn't live on a houseboat, but he's a drifter. He has no fixed address and he just travels around via bus around America and the his only possessions are. A folding collapsible toothbrush. And a very tiny billfold. He only started carrying photo ID after nine eleven. So there was a time when he just carried cash and a folding toothbrush and when he. Though his relationship to his wardrobe is very interesting, so Jack reacher. If you guys ever read these books. I read this okay. And I remember he his the position I. Remember the most is his hands that are the size of Christmas Ham yeah. He's six foot five. He's a former military police investigator. He he was a victim of post cold-war downsizing, and now travels America stumbling into mysteries and solving them beaten shit out of people shooting them with the toughest guns, but It sounds like the villain of every other story right now. He's a good guy, but he is a dry. You know he's in a houseboat of the mind. He has no fixed address gone. He has no real. He, obviously, he makes love to a lot of beautiful and independent women, but none of those relationships really last, but what I wanted to say about his close because they're like. Why don't why don't you ever take me over to your place? And he's like well. I live on a bus. The mind drifter. Like a nice dinner. You by disclosed. This is very interesting. Elliott. Listen to yeah yeah. He does something. Okay to put this in context when I was in the ninety S. When I was living in the nineties. I studied abroad, in England and one of my flatmates was a British guy who came from a little bit of money. And he said the best thing about going to Istanbul was the clothes were so cheap that you could buy a new T. shirt every day at the end of the day. Just throw it in the garbage and buy a new one. So Jack Reach. That you'll really relate to this Guy Dan. This is one. Right. So Jack reacher does the same thing he buys his clothes. It hardware stores. He buys the most utilitarian cheap clothes that he can and at the end of the night if he's lucky enough to be sleeping in a bed. Takes off all his clothes and he puts them under the mattress. Depress them as he sleeps on them. Do you understand what I'm saying because he doesn't have an ironing border steamer, so he sleeps on his clothes, and then the next morning he wakes up in their pressed, and then after a few days he throws them in the garbage and buys a new set of clothes. Isn't that cool? Garbage and then goes into a hardware store. No. I mean the order probably assume a little different than as as reported, but I I read the book I read I liked quite a bit. I was like. I, don't know whether you guys kind of went through this progression, but when I was a much younger person, I was like much snow started out. I started out younger. Older. That's how it goes. Way Everything you're saying. You were snob beer than when you're critiquing. David recess friend, having a cash bar, I was snappier. Younger and then as older I embrace the fact that I was turning into a middle aged man and I'm like yeah I will read these airport thrillers and I will enjoy. The. They're pretty good. With twenty do you read? I think i. read that I ever the first one. I think I really was that kind of person who with his brother. Oh maybe not I here's the thing I actually. This is I went through this thing I'm like okay. Which of these Lee, Child Jack reacher book stay and I went down. The list and Amazon I'm like none of this sounds familiar to me. That's kind of the beauty of them because they all could be the one I read. Delivered it becomes a sludge and you can't separate out which event happened in which novel? Each novel hits these beats these stations of the cross major stumbles into a new location. A woman needs his help. He gets in over his head for a while, and then he just goes Buchwald and kills a bunch of bad guys. That's the detective template I mean my Mine Rom who is no longer alive, loved reading detective fiction. And she read the George. Cima novels all the Agatha Christie's all the PD James, everything and many a time when I was. You know sort of in the in the in the prime of my brain development eighteen nineteen years old. My mom would be reading a book and just say. Oh I've read this before total. Laugh and laugh at her. Mom. How do you not know what books you've read? How can you not remember and now I appreciate as someone who is now? Her Age like the these books are not meant to. Necessarily exist as individual works of fiction, but to be windows into a world that you want to revisit from time to time. And be and connect with the characters that you care about and and are a consolation to you. In in our and rather than stimulating. Yeah exactly so, and you know many a time. I would wonder. You know through the House and see her sleeping soundly with a book propped over her closed is 'cause. It totally calmed her down and let her sleep so. I think these characters are not designed to be. I mean Travis mcgriff Trans Mickey grew over the course of the various novels that he was in for. The most part is just like you're hanging out with your friends and. And the friends are consoling to you especially because they are outsiders in either. That's that makes you feel comforted because you are also feel like an outsider, or that makes you feel like if you're a middle aged dad, it's really cool to read about a guy who buys clothes from the hardware store and put the mattress and then throws it away because this this guy is enjoying a life of perfect freedom, and and and you've you've taken on the responsibilities of adulthood noodle. Want them I just. I'm sorry I just always imagined him rinsing out his underpants in the hotel sink at the end of the day. Yeah, he does that, too. I mean. Yeah. He does. It just like I feel like that is a fair price to pay for total freedom is like at the end of the day. You'RE GONNA, have to wash out your underpants the sink and then hope they dry by tomorrow morning. Yet because it's harder to like kick other people's Butts when you're squishing around in in wetting. ZANK It is interesting to me that this world of. This world of murder largely mostly murder is so sort of comforting because like I mean. You know there's the word for it. Cozy mysteries like Audrey is a big efficient out of cozy mysteries I'm working from home writing still for the daily show, but I hear her in the other room lists like watching cozy mysteries, and I find that cozy because I grew up with my parents watching mystery on PBS. ROSIEST! And, so Edward Corey. I used to. I used to watch the title sequence, and then as soon as silver I would be like not interested I would turn it off, but I love that title sequence so burn. But. Let me if I'M IF I. Damn. Elliott. Excuse me for a moment jar jar. Dan Could you define for your listeners? We may not. Know the term. What a cozy mysteries I would think I tend to think that a cozy mystery is not so much, so there's the hardboiled American style. which is your Philip Marlowe, stuff and often. also an American tradition. The detective is part of the police force cozy mystery. It's more like there's this. Character who is a often eccentric? And these mysteries will take place in. Say a Manor House where. There's a limited pool of suspects or a small English, countryside, village or train. Can Agatha Agatha Christie yes, like club, not necessarily locked room mystery, but a but a closed environment Mr. And they're not. They're not gritty. Yes, they're not yet ready as much as anyone. Dying can be charming. These cozy mysteries are that. I mean that's murder. She wrote I. Mean that should be a horrifying. Woman goes. She's confronted with murder. Lender preceded. Yeah and and no one puts two and two together that she's doing it. She's the one link between those murderers, but like her life should be. The unending nightmare she worked at. Barbershop Slash Pie shop where everyone kept disappearing. She is a history of making Eros. Yeah Yeah. Then she and she did try I mean luckily for all of us assassinated at that presidential convention before she could set up a communist agent of the United States with their brainwash. Before but not before she was on the. The SS Karnak, which is the ship that Hercule, poirot boards in murder on the Nile, the Nineteen Seventy eight movie with PD Ustinov is Paul Ro, which really sent Poirot into the stratosphere of American celebrity. While row couldn't go anywhere. Without getting mobbed. Judge John. Hodgman ruled in my favor. Judge John Hodgman ruled in my friends. Favor Judge John Hodgman ruled in my favorite. I'm judge John Hodgman. You're hearing the voices of real litigants, real people who have submitted disputes to my Internet court at the judge John Hodgman podcast. I hear cases I. Ask them questions. 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We talk about a new movie theaters, and all the important issues going on in the film industry. It's like guess WHO's coming to Dinner Mitch cruising, and if it helps, seal the do I can flex their muscle record each episode I'm sorry this podcast I'm a movie producer. How did you get in here? He quick start flexing by SIP lattes chess. Dropping every Friday maximum fund dot org or wherever you listen to podcasts. I want to ask you what you think of the Ustinov Playa, because that is the power that I was introduced to I and I. Know It's not important. We can all agree is the most is the finest of the Rose, but like what? What is your feeling on? Well first of all I heart. I heartily disagree with your. With Your theory that David Suchet's the best of the okay well. See the one from the TV show. Yes, yeah. You Watch that David Yeah. Yeah Voice, Great. WHO's matter? We'll get to that in a minute. teaser master of suspense. I spent some time this afternoon revisiting the Ustinov Floros. That's why it's not like I've I'm standing by all the time ready to site a a poirot movie that Angela. Lansbury was I happened to be watching parts of them this afternoon. And so poirot hit the cinema. The American cinema, hard with Albert Finney as Poro. Thousand Seventy, four is murder on the Orient Express with Sean Connery I was giving yeah, that's what I was giving a thumbs down to that movie is. It's a it's a slog. Sidney lumet directed it's. Really that movie really watching that movie really makes you feel like a cigarette. It's just like. So. Grimy and round, and everyone just looks sickly and shiny pallor over everything. It's lightning. That is incredible that it was. Released, that's. What I like about it though I love how disgusting for row is in it, he such a strange off like grimy like Grossman with all that and his mustache. On love it I love. How how sweaty everyone isn't that movie and they're rich. These are supposed to be rich glamorous people and they're so like sweaty. Oh Great! The princess is incredible Wendy Hiller is amazing in it. I will say that Oh. Yeah, Right Wendy Hiller Right Force But you know that movie was a huge commercial success, and so they decide like we're GonNa make like is going to be the new bond, and for an in a in a brief period in the late Seventies. There were like building a road cinematic universe. And and Finney would not come back and play Perot a well. A decisions far as I'm concerned, I guess. Do you think that the series ended with Ross Perot. In one thousand, nine hundred. Elusive? Who's going to solve the mystery of the person who put the spikes in the tire than derail my old comments? No one is because Elliott confessed. Singing dumb thing. So, you're saying anyway building the POIROT you. Peter Peter Ustinov came in with murder on the Nile which was also nine, hundred, seventy eight, I, think and I was also a big commercial success, but people you stop turn poirot into a muppet and murder on the Nile and evil under the Sun Nineteen eighty-two were these like basically. COMEDIC, English character actor romps. where they got like Maggie Smith and Diana Rigg and lots and lots of other well known character actors to just take a vacation together and film these incredibly. Dull soundtrack less. Like the. A. Very successful! You're right. I think you're right I think they are very dull. The inexplicable thing is. Child Dan loved these movies. Damn me, too. Yeah, okay, but it's probably like how I used to love reading Doonesbury. Because it made you feel like a grownup. It. Wow Right. We would go visit, family friends, and then at night. You know I would be in some older brothers room or something, and there would be all these big doonesbury anthologies about Watergate in the Ted, offensive or whatever. And I would like panel after panel of the White House for the voice balloons coming out. Understand Any of the references and I would just read it and be like Oh, such, little, grownup here. Remiss Doonesbury! Yeah usually when I would go into an older kids room I would immediately reach for the Doonesbury. Yeah instead of the stack of like heavy metals or something right? But I think you you tune into something that is very true about. Sort of detective, fiction and mystery fiction. Broadly defined because one one of the sort of accepted principles of the police procedural. On television. Is that. You know if you're watching A.. I don't WanNa. Maligned certain shows because I want to work on television again, but if you're watching a CBS police procedural. They try to keep the mystery. Pretty Solvable, so the people who are watching them can feel smart. That's that's a chair two full description. Because I. Think it's the same thing sort of like. You. Know you you engage with mystery fiction. In order to connect with the character that. Maybe is able to do the stuff that you can't do. It's aspirational in that way. They can say the things that you can save their outside of society. They live in his boat. They're fucking around or whatever, and also because it makes, you feel intelligent to follow the mystery, maybe solve it before. the the character does. I I also wanted to say to. That ends like the eccentric, the Eccentricity of the best detectives I mean. We are living through a time for instance that like. The police are rightfully being here we go. The relevance I get a damn allies. The police are rightfully being deeply interrogated as an institution and I don't WanNa get. Too deeply into that, but an oft reference character on our show is Colombo, and the beauty of Colombo is that he feels so outside that system. He feels like a like a warrior from the lower classes. Who has power and light comes in and fucks with these rich people who think they're smarter than him? Yeah I mean the detective shows and detective, fiction and detective movies are different from police shows. Because they are about. One or two single outsiders? Who Live? Away from these systems, and are able to interrogate them and and find. A solution and justice for people who are wronged by those systems. You know the Straw Lozad in Shaw. Combs is a buffoon. Like. Sherlock Holmes like one of the Great. One of the great innovations I thought of the Steven Moffat What's the other guy's name? Mark Gaddis Mark Mark Addis. Sherlock series was to openly just have sherlock himself identify as a high functioning sociopath. He's not a human being as we understand it. He is essentially a superhero. Who exists outside of human law? In order to impose a better form of justice and the police are not. Not Part of that justice. That's. Dead Of. Human law like. Yeah well. No cabinet doesn't exist outside of human law. He's broken every. Thursday. Encyclopedia Ronnie after imagine that his dad every now and then bring him in and rough them up in his like getting a little too close browned. Investigation. got a message from bugs. Meany, right? So you are. You're positing world where they're. An Ida Ville. The corruption goes all the way to the top which is. Bad He's taking money from bugs, meany and and They are a father son adversarial relationship. Wow, very much so. Also I mean that's just making just making concrete. The fact that every father son relationship is at heart an adversarial relationship. This is just a applying it to Lille institutions. Encyclopedia Brown's Data Saturn. Brown Zeus Yeah Yeah, he's. He's like I shoulda swallowed waddling close. Roy. If only your only, your mother had fed me Iraq instead. Guys guys read some books and mythology. Review of this podcast. You've got them to the quick in the way that I. Wish I. I mean it's one of those one of those Chris. That's one of those. Attacks like how are we going to learn that stuff what? I first hand source was I going to go. Talk to Zeus. Asked me a book. The boy, next door and get a first edition. Edition of the Odyssey come on. So Dan cozy mysteries I just WANNA ask. Do you think that the difference between a cozy mystery in a hardboiled mystery is partly that a hardboiled mystery is? Is this kind of fantasy where the world is corruption and you get to identify with the one noble person in it and cozy fans. Cozy mystery is more the fantasy of like. The world is pretty okay, but there's like some dark stuff underneath, and every time bubbles up a kindly lady kind of tamp down and brings order back to chaos. Do you think there are? Two sides of the same coin that way or I know I i. Yes, I believe that. It's funny like this is an idea that. In no way originated with. The television program northern exposure, but I I encountered. Wait to find out where this win. Like the first time I encountered someone saying what you said just now was through the show. Northern exposure I remember very distinctly someone saying that the beauty of mystery is this vision the world where there is order. Something come along and disrupted the order, and that that's -tective comes along and restores order, and that is what a cozy mystery is and. Hardwood Ministry is more. Of. To some degree of power fantasy, where you are the toughest person, but it is all also occasionally. Cynical in a way that is broadly appealing where you're like okay well, the world is pool, but I pursue younger northern exposure mystery show. It was a show about I mean to me. Small town in like guy moved there from the big city thought it was like a soap opera. When I was a kid watching, it was a mystery because I could never quite figure out what was going on. was. Only more explosives get no. They were just talking about the charm of mysteries in a scene and that Oh okay that description always stuck with me ever since, and and obviously does not originate originate there, but it was. It was well put in the. Northern exposure was giving you some. Critical analysis literary criticism. Got Yeah all right. It helps that my parents were like nuts for cozy mysteries, and so my dad just like took to it, he was like. Yes, this is it. This is the best description. I've heard this. who were your parents favorite or Detectives I. They loved the Prime Suspect series. They loved campion on What's the? What's the very dour sort of? He's either Scottish or northern English. Detective to know who I might be thinking of I think, is it? Is it a relatively recent show, or it's an old show. It would have been. When I was growing up, but There's a relatively new show where that's about a really dour Scottish detective, and and my wife and I started watching it and I was like this is. This is too bleak for me. It's like like it was one of those shows where at a certain point you expected the hero to just be like. Why am I even bothering solving this? Like walking away. I remember. that. There was literally a mystery show from. England called Rosemary and thyme. Gardeners who solve mysteries. Heritage. Before we started recording the episode that the name of our of our mutual friends Sam means came up and I, and this reminds me of he and I when we both worked at the daily show, we would occasionally Amazon and just look up different mystery series to laugh about them and one of them was the one where the chef at the White House solves. Different mysteries And there's the of course this is not a mystery series. Our favorite one to look go back many times to look up the titles in the babies and billionaires romance novel series where every story is a different one that involves a baby in a billionaire so. Very specific. Very specific psychological desires. But there's a lot of Yeah, there's a lot of it seems like anyone in a in the world. If they live in, a novel could end up solving a mystery someday. Can I. Ask you guys a question about a mystery movie. Mystery men no different one L.. Because I can't remember if it's detective movie, but I love this movie. I think it's so terrific Gosford Park. Mystery this. Mystery, but is there a detective in it? I detective comes must come to the manner. It's not like they just decided to solve it on their own. I don't just risk McDonald's characteristic of turn out to be the kind of the protagonist. I don't even remember I love now. So good and I think what's interesting when you guys talk about the cozy versus the hardboiled. That move because it has that kind of upstairs downstairs element right? There's the yeah, all the rich people, and then there's all the staff the house staff. and the mystery kind of turns on on these. Unspoken relationships between those two populations. It really kind of hits that sweet spot. Of Cozy mystery and then gritty kind of realistic. Very not cynical, but very frank about the clap, the class distinctions. that. Maybe it's the subtext of something grittier like Colombo or something right? it's just it's. It's so good I'm sure I'm sure your listeners love movies and they've already seen it, but it's interesting to think about in the context of types of mysteries and types of detective. Who Done it's? What's weird about the flop house podcast is that most of their listeners hate movies have never watched one. Of. The hosts. Last movie you guys saw what's the last movie? You've fell a saw in a movie theater before Corona Virus? Oh good question. Her boy, cat, tell you exactly, but I have no birds of Prey Oh wait now I saw cats a second time. Yeah, yeah! I saw I saw cats, so I could do it for the flop house because I. Don't get to the theater that off. Cats were actually catch was the movie I saw, but the last movie I saw not for the flop. Has the theater was once time in Hollywood? God when they remotely set manually, cats was my last movie theater, too. I. Should feel bad. That was the last movie I saw in theater, but it was exactly the right movie for me to see in the theater lasts because it was such a such a positive experience. I think I think we and all of cultural agree that cats is the last movie. Nah. No need to make anymore yeah. Stu Wellington's up. Yeah, what's up? Do you have a favorite detective. Or mystery movie, or you know or book or anything? Like my mom, my mom was always a big. Mystery Fan. I know you didn't ask me about my mom US A. But like my mom, which is what is it? midsomer murders all the time. The show that has zillion episodes. But now you know I I don't. I was more of like I was always more like a war adventure fiction guy. Cornwell type guy. I'm a real tough guy. So that was more my. vibe. Really. Agressive in nightclubs. Exclusively When you take me out of the nightclub I'm a lamb, but you put me back in their ally. Is Acting aggressively? Roar I. I have to say about Stewart be I. Mean I don't know whether it's just because he's a bartender is a skill is learned, or whether it's just who he is as a person. I've never seen someone so skillful at de escalating. Direction as Stewart. It's weird when I first started bartending, I came straight from. Running Hobby stores where I dealt mainly with teenage boys, who who who were not particularly good at dealing with social situations, so when I first started talking to drunk guys I treated them like they were nerdy teenage going yeah, that that did not go well. I'm GONNA fuck with. These is a little bit right, not a good idea because see the problem is when you're. You know a big tall, handsome guy who always sounds sarcastic. That's the absolute first person. A drunk person wants to punch. Yeah. Yeah I think I think David Rees. You've met your match Stuart Wellington Doll. Handsome guy always censor casting the two of you like movable object meets. Aman stop getting forty bench bench. What's what's a lot, but not so much acid? Expert? How fast can you do? Wings Day New York Times Cross. See, that's the thing. You know I suffer for being you know Tolan handsome, but at least I'm also very stupid. Love about Stewart is he's unabashed at calling I will say I think I wanNA start writing I want to start writing series. Of Detective Novels Starring Stu Wellington. First of all Washington's a great detective named Yeah. It's pretty sick name. It's pretty good. Yeah, say we're sites all. Like tall, tall and handsome but stupid. But the escalator by at heart. and He. On a ignore the bartender part. He is working at a hobby store. And so on and solving crimes out of the hobby store. That's a cozy mystery for me Oh. The Hobby store thing not great you can have. Yeah like models, and there could be a model of a house or something, and that that ties into the solution of the mystery or controlled car that you have to write us or glue. You know you know about all these. Resins, and stuff. Little tiny Bush. They used to pay their DNA whole Mr Figurines now. One of them went missing or something. You know what I mean like. Gary Guy Acts like like Gary Guy the monster manual. that. Students mistaken you wrote a monograph on the nineteen different kinds of pewter ORCs. I. Did yeah I did I. Don't like to bring it up on the PODCASTS. You're like Sherlock Holmes written a monograph for everything that comes up. Homicides or whatever the Yeah. The the every episode of Hobby Store Homicides was. Confession, a confession that I managed to get without any attempt to act without knowing there was a mystery. Canceled, the best thing is that your catchphrases is something like solving crimes isn't my job. It's just a hobby. Running the hobby store is my job. Play in that space between avocation and. When Hamas are your work? Life becomes a hobby. Sure, yeah. You can ride a hobby horse. When solving mysteries your hobby, you never work a day in your life. Do So. That'd be good. Yeah. One hundred percent of the mysteries. You don't solve way. That's true, too. That's true. Mystery. There's no. Hobby mystery series or a hockey mystery series. I mean if Kevin Smith's producing. I think he could be both. That's right. I mean speaking of tall handsome people I have to say. You are appearing to me in two. Boxes skype boxes above and below one another. You could be related. David and okay. Well Yeah. We both have. Corona virus mustaches Jesus. To buy them both a drink. Wow does Dan doesn't buy thanks open bar only. I mean he doesn't care how how close a friend he seeing. Get married open bar bust. Can I ask you a quick question about De? Escalating bar fights. Because I. 'cause I have been in. Before I left. Before I used to live in the Hudson. Valley and I broke tried to break up a couple of bar fights. And then I try, and then I got involved in a melee in Manhattan wants the try to pull somebody up. What's the key? I mean if there are already going at it, isn't it too late for Verbal de Escalation? You just kind of have to physically get in there. Yeah I mean. If. They're already going at. You really can't do anything about it for the vast majority of de Escalation. You get you get your phone out, and you start yelling Worldstar Worldstar right yeah. Yeah. Usually if if it's an actual problem person at the bar. usually turned to my wife, who is much better at doing this and she'll do things like turn off the music and turn all the lights up and say she's not going to serve anybody until this asshole league. That sort of thing. Because she's a professional. Just not just handsome drifter like me. Fumbles through. Friends Asleep and sleeps on a mattress on his clothes. Well, you gotta keep them things crisp. The? Your wife is like have an eye charts like we have an iron you don't do. You have a home now. I'm here. I'm your wife. Like you have a dresser, you don't have to keep throwing your clothes in the garbage than walking to the hardware store with shoe. Glenn? Align stores where you're like relent, you're you're both relentlessly indulgent and subtly like you're doing. On the person where you're like. Shutting it down, I'm not really sure. Yeah what's happening directing the energy? Yeah, yeah I. Mean that's that's all part of it I. Mean it's it's similar to like any kind of a bar conversation because he can't like you. Don't WanNA. Get stuck there forever. Like just because some guy really wants to explain why. He shouldn't feel bad for loving revenge of the nerds like Hey, man I got a job to do. How can I not have this heart to heart with this sad guy I thought I thought we were having a really good conversations. Realize that you felt that way about. I've never. Yeah, but you weren't a fan of it Dan. Because he thought the jocks were right to beat up the NERDS, it wasn't. It was. Take. Turns out those nurse with the villains. Yeah Yeah for me. It was always that I was mad. They cheated in all the Games. Like. Clearly, the rules say that you can't. If you're after drink a beer and then ride a little tricycle. You can't take a pill that prevents you from getting trunk. That's not fair. Let's check rule book. There isn't one. Run. Look says this is dumb. Stop It. Guys look that wasn't a great note to end on, but on the other hand well, let's let's not end on it Dan okay. I set up a set up a thing tease. Who is the greatest Turco Pommereau in film I'll Shin I do WanNa know that who is the greatest archille Oprah in your in your opinion Mr Hodgman speaking of tall. Doors. Kenneth Brannagh. Greatest aren't. I Shall I shall not fuck off while my show. On. For years I have had such respect for you to the degree. That like you've intimidated me I team is. Full and now I find that the emperor has no clothes Kenneth Branagh. Come on, I don't I? Don't have any clothes because I'm lying down on a mattress. My underwear. I. I'm not going to sit here in front of you damn. Dilettante Trust Fund classes opened. My Life, but okay, sure well for the for the purposes of this by gas. Let's pretend that's no I know. That's I know that's not. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that the twenty seventeen. Murder on the Orient Express directed by and starring Kenneth. Branagh as Ergo Poirot is a great film. But I will say. I did not expect to enjoy it as much as I did. I was. Utterly flabbergasted. When I saw that guy's mustache. Wow! Looking Kurt Russell character much more than Urculo. You'll Perot as I was saying that. Yeah well first of all Urculo Paul Ro as we know from Peter, Ustinov. And David Suchet and even Albert Finney is supposed to be a a short Stout Gore Monde. Vein. Shithead that everyone hates. And instead we got the trailer for murder on the Orient Express. which is a tall? Skinny. Honestly slender men type row. With a moustache that was growing into his ears walking on top of the train. To the tune of believer by imagine dragons, and like Oh, this is not my daddy circle Borroni more. And as dumb as that seemed to me, I watched it and. There was one moment that. Utterly redeemed the movie for me. which is that as as many Urkel Perot books and movies as I've watched. I never unders. I never understood him as a human being. Until. Kenneth Branagh stepped in Shit in the movie. Yeah. Human Shit. No Animal Shit. Humans animals. Interesting an interesting twist if he gets on the train steps into human shit and they're like other by the way the toilets are all backed up. The system is not working. We would really appreciate you solving the mystery and so I. Just have to deal with all movie. and. Ran Interpretation, Ezekiel Perot is a corporate face. Some eats shit for pleasure. Right was really interesting to me. Does for pleasure, and not for sustenance because I. Don't think there's a lot nutritional value. Another human centipede! You're wrong. Time the greatest film of all time human centipede. But. In in in murder on the orange express two thousand, seventeen as official title is. Kenneth Branagh. Pro is walking to the scene of a crime early in the film. Not Related to the train. And on drain crime, he steps and Shit. He sees. Steps back. And then steps and shit again with his other foot. and. He says it's a an paraphrasing. It's not. The humiliation. It's the imbalance that bothers me. And suddenly I understood their co Paul Ro. is, someone who is able to. Sense everything around him such it's an invasion to his personality, and all these trying to do is to make rational a world that is irrational. And it's it's basically. He's he's got no CD, problem, and suddenly. I understood prone away that I didn't ever understand power before like he can't help it. He doesn't want to be this way. He doesn't. WanNa be this shitty vein moustachioed asshole. He has to be this way because that's the only way they can deal with his anxieties and I loved it. I mean I cannot entirely go with you, but I. do think that all right. Now Goodbye. I will say the brand. A performance as are. Probably the best thing in that. I did enjoy the there is one no wait a minute. What about Michelle? pfeiffer is great in it. I, mean Michelle. pfeiffer is great. Everything is yes. But but but Dan you and I. We can make peace over this. Brennan Pro Perot's interesting to watch. Michelle pfeiffer is wonderful. And everyone else is is not good. Yes agreed. Except for Dame Judi dench. She's of a virtual shaking hands. Now I haven't seen. The movie does Dame Judi. dench appear as a cat and sing a song explaining to the viewer that one cat SAR. Yes? She appears as a cabin. She goes my name is Miss Marple I'll see you in the next movie. Great casting that would be. So, wait what's what's the ones your show Airbus? The details on that thing, the lie ninth. On cake. On fx and then the next day on Hulu. Because FX has a deal with Hulu and the show is called Dick, town It has. Profanity in it. It's but it's. It's like an it's not. There's dirty language and stuff, but I don't think of it as a cynic, hard boiled. It's more like a cozy. It's cozy grimy mysteries. We have our new genre of Grimy Coz Catch on fire and then get put out by baby urinating on. Them doesn't quite get that nut, so does that happen in murder on the Orient Express the new one off. The train, what if they call it that? Kenneth Branagh. Train and Train Train and. We've also incredible friends who were guest voices on the show including our friend Jean Grey Zach Elephant Acas Jon. Glaser Jon. Benjamin, Kristen Schaal. Men and others sped Griffin Newman a blank check podcast. It's yeah, lots of people came. In Janey Tompkins? Thank you, yeah. It's a- and if there's a season to, there's a role in it for all three of you so. Listen to me, I. Choose the talk in. Those numbers you. Listening to fancier fly. You've. Got Stars in my eyes. If. You want to see if you WANNA see Jon Huntsman and David Pure. The main characters from Dick town. Dealing with their new arch nemesis. Detective. Letters. Get cool like a cool like detective name like like poor smelling something, small and filthy. Sewer that you may be mixing up detectives and Garbage Pail kids. And cool with ropes. I did it again. Can I. Ask One last. Question of you, guys at any of you guys ever seen a French mystery. Called tell no one. Yeah so. I would recommend that to your listeners I'll that's another movie that like Gosford Park I just love so much. I've probably seen that movie four times. It's great yeah. I would recommend. I saw that movie yeah! I'd look it up. I can remember. You have to look it up a little book of movies that you saw no I look up. which movie was because I? Couldn't. Have I seen that one I of it, but yeah I saw them one was good. If your listeners are interested in modern takes. On a a classic Agatha, Christie style. Cozy mystery and also a modern take. On a classic American hardboiled film mystery. Just go go no further than your friend Ryan Johnson. Check out knives out and then check out brick Ju-. Great Mysteries and Traditional. Yeah. Okay, we'll see movies wonderful stuff. Everyone loves mystery movies. Hey I'm John Hodgman to this whole. Host of this episode of. Mini sewed. And it's been my pleasure to talk to my friends here about mystery movies detectives. Outsiders Hobbyists, pooh-poohed trains and many other topics. I WANNA give a shoutout to the hosts. The show Damn Coy Stewart Wellington and Elliott. Ceylan Hey, you guys. Thanks so much for being on the show that you host meanwhile me. Oh, you're you're welcome and thank you for having US I by us, I mean me and David Reece. CO-STARS CO creators of the new show Dick Town. On fx X.'s cake. Sorry on young affects access new. New Our late night anthology show addict town episode start cycling indicate whatever that means. July, nine, ten PM and screaming the next day on fx on. Who Hey you guys? Thank you so much for having us on the show. Thank you. 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Best Of: A Fun Weekend Of Basketball

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

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Best Of: A Fun Weekend Of Basketball

"Got Here I love stats. I get goosebumps just fake it about. Qbr's and true shooting percentage is but one stat you need to know. Is your car. Batteries charge advance. Auto parts will test your battery for free. And if it's low they'll install a new one with your purchase and you say twenty percents off when you buy online by entering the code. Dan Twenty then you can get back to pouring over every staff from your favorite sport. Go ahead take advance at advance auto parts. The Dan lebatardshow woodstock outs. Podcasts is presented by you know the capital one assist it. What's in your wallet? This the Dan Le Batard show with this. Got Spot CASS. We found the thing that gets baseball back in the conversation. Et alii wants the astros to shut up. Mike is Wandering around saying I love sports. Just he's saying I love sports because of the sheer number of people in baseball. Who are putting their voice on. We need to guillotine all the Astros. Jose altuve eight. This is just tremendous walking into the club house taking off his shirt so that people can see that he indeed does have a bad tattoo and then walking out. I don't know how the Astros managed to make this worse but they have how the act of the act of cheating by banging on a trash can steal signs that act. You think is bad enough. The way it was punished has made it worse because it wasn't punished and because it wasn't punished enough now rob. Manfred has a no win position here. Absolute no win position like there is nothing he can do well. He's not winning. I know there's no way there is no way for him is losing more he is going to write sternly worded memos telling people not to throw baseballs at each other which is amazing when you consider this. Baseball is had the incredibly childish. This is not an adult form of problem. Solving the incredibly childish problem of we solve our business by throwing baseballs at each other. It's been a problem for one hundred years. When's it going to get corrected by Manfred protecting the cheater sir? Manfred saying the astros are the ones that cannot be hit by Baseball Mike Ryan has an assortment of sound back there that he wants to get too badly billy. The BASEBALL SHEET OF SOUND. That billy gave me is like thirty names. Long Mike. Trout said something controversial and we were all asking each other. Would you recognize Mike? Trout's voice if you heard it so Mike Ryan is going to play an assortment of baseball players Complaining about the Astros had no idea what Mike Trout sounded like. Now I know he sounds like a baby okay. So you heard you've heard this sound. I have not yet heard this sound from my trout. But let's just here. Let's see if we can test this here. Just play just as much as you can just play sound of baseball players complaining about the. Astros wouldn't surprise me if something like that like that happen. I mean just to be honest and It's it's funny because I'm sure it probably will somebody. Somebody will take it into their own hands and they'll get suspended more games than any of those guys got for the biggest cheating scandal and one hundred years you know so. It's it'll be pretty ironic when that happens. I'm sure that's how it will end up playing out all right so that is good sound. That may or may not have been my trautwein or not sure. Let's hear some more sound from. Maybe Mike Trout. Trout for him to devalue it the way he did not sure day is is just tells me how out of touch with what the players game and you know at this point. The only thing devaluing trophies isn't says commissioner on it. Whoa commissioner called a hunk of metal which is not a very smart thing to say. Now that was not my Rapa. Okay let's see. Let's SEE STU. Got His good at this game. Goes to guts comes in roaring off vacation with. Is Mike Trout expertise trout speak? It's going to be boring all right. Let's hear what else we don't know what human hits a walk off home run against this Chapman to send your team to the world series and one has the thoughts they don't my Jersey off but to go in the tunnel. Change your shirt in. Come out into your interview like that. It makes no sense to me. Because I know me Gary Sandra said yesterday you can rip my shirt off my pants semi in the world series off for all his Chapman and the ninth inning. At home I'm going crazy. Ripped my pants off. What else we got with places getting anything because guys skiers been affected. A lot of people thought got. It'd be pretty fun of their office. Back is it sounded a Little Mike. Trout. I'm not sure there was some general. Dull sounds around it that made it a little extra dull that made me. I may have dull bias. There might have. I feel like that. Was Mike Trella tear some more sound? Of course the guys that like Robertson can shell New York in seventeen or sorry in Houston. Seventeen Let's tough as well. I mean that's kind of world series or not for those guys and then you know guys like Aaron Judge Gone through In seventeen absolutely killing it that year and You know gets beat out by great player and now too so I mean it's just guys like that you know it's That really miss out on things or You know guy that comes up for his first start and they have his signs and it gets absolutely shelter seven or eight and they sent him back down they never come back to the big leagues So those are just the guys that I feel for. Wow that guy sounds pretty boring. Did some pretty boring. How much more sound do we have on this? Because one of the things that I find interesting about this is I actually believe that this is sticking less to someone like Korea than it is to Altuve and this has been an incredible fall from grace for all too because he's beloved tiny guy and it seems like most of it is falling on him and it seems like most of it is falling on him because of the Not Wanting to rip the Jersey off after hitting a home run. No I'm all in on Hating Korea. Now he actually the day that Jim Crane did his press conference at Media Day career actually came out with the right tone. Most people were applauding him for his comments. But since then Darryl to billy Kelly what are you thinking here about you think the Astros should shut up all of them? Shut up. They need to shut up. Here's the thing about the astro. Oh no here's the thing about the Astros Dan. You mentioned that race but then I was interrupted. Oh no derek go ahead and sit outside. Oh boy go ahead and just leave right now for two minutes. We'll get to your thoughts later. Here's the thing. Don't get to the thing or get the hell out of here. The Korea sound out snow if he's going to do that to me with. Here's the thing. Get the hell out of here was interrupted. I like that. Though you know get to the thing get the hell out of here. Just get to the thing. Quit telling me here's the thing to tell me the thing your's Carlos Correa missing the mark while the problem I had is. I have with when players go out there and they they don't fax. They're not informed on the situation and the cameras and just talk and we meet. That doesn't seem right right so when he talks about now we shoot it for three years. I mean he is a he he that doesn't know how to read is really battering incomprehension. Or it's just not informed at all but the commission report clearly says that all those activities were conducting till seventeen to eighteen. Nothing happened to us in nineteen. Nothing happened get out of here. Man Call ignorant calling me names now Carlos. That's why we only cheated for one year. Not that three years you guys. WanNa world over double with a guy on second. Don't ask me how he got on second That sort of reminds me. And this is a little bit extreme but I just saw the net flicks Docu series. Don't bleep with cats about. Has It stayed with you? Yeah I mean it's disgusting. Never leave you. But it's not just that there was a of kittens but it was that person becoming an actual murderer of human beings as well and then they talked to the murderers mom and she was talking about the people on the Internet. Who were hunting down her son and she was saying those people are crazy. Yeah so it was fairly amazing to hear her say that the Internet chasers of her son were crazy but not her son who dismembered a body and left it in a suitcase because he wanted fame and not even that team that was in that facebook group that that track down the actual killer could tell us which one of those sounds was Mike Trout. I played my trying to you. I thought I thought we were still waiting to get to Mike. Drought tried. He was in there. How Manage Guillermo Right now? So man you should have let him speak. This is I mean. Billy was right about this. This story never went away. It's only gotten bigger. It's getting people that aren't into baseball back into baseball. This is legitimate. Hate I think is the most hated professional sports team since the Miami Heat Big. Three and even back then you didn't have other players talking about the Miami Heat negatively. If you did it was like Anthony Oliver something like that. These are some of the big stars in the game. One of which alleged to be Mike Trout. I don't know why and I like I played the sound and I don't know which one I believe. Trad said if I ever hit a home run off of Chapman. You could tear my shirt off. I believe that was the trout. Sounds Bryce Harper? Okay I think that was cody. Bellinger might've Been Alex. Would Mark Gatiss Marquess? Espn radio is presented by progressive insurance creators of the name your price tool choose range of coverage options and pick the price that works for you visit. Progressive Dot com today. The Black Tux DOT COM is the easiest way to look fresh for your wedding or special event to get ten percent off your suit or hurt succeed. Visit THE BLACKHAWKS DOT COM and enter go debt. Here's your sportscenter update Denny Hamlin won the Daytona five hundred. Ryan Newman was involved in a car crash near the finish line. After being tapped by teammate Ryan Blaney. Causing NEWMAN TO SPIN OUT. Hit The wall and flip as he was hit by another car at the finish line before sliding upside down with his car on fire. Newman who finished ninth is in serious condition with non life threatening injuries. The rockets will sign Jeff. Green and Damore. Carol that'll fix it for all the latest headlines. Information tune the sportscenter on ESPN radio authorized throughout the day Donlevatar Bill. He's got a conundrum here. He's got a dog now and he doesn't know how to socialize with other dog owners. Stugatz dogs Dan. I don't know if you're aware of dogs. Dogs like to smell each other and kind of like socialized. And all that stuff so then I'm holding onto a leash with my dog on it while another owners doing the same thing and I don't know how to interact with this owner in this case like. Hey you know. My dog likes her dogs. But smell as you guys know. I'm not good at small talk so like this is a nightmare for me. Because what do I talk to these other dog owners about? I experienced this exact same thing with my kid at a park. It's the same thing kids and dog on the poll at Lebatardshow. Our kids and dogs basically the two year old wants to run over and play with other kids and all of a sudden I'm standing there and our two kids are kind of chasing each other and we're like hey there's kids about that. Vc's Donlevatar show with the two guys on ESPN radio splash. Espn radio is presented by progressive. Insurance the Dan Le Batard show is brought to you by Shell. V Power Nitro plus premium gasoline guests on the Dan Le Batard show appear via the shell. Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sportscenter update Denny Hamlin won the Daytona five hundred Ryan Newman was involved in a crash near the finish line and is in serious condition with non-life threatening injuries the rockets will saw Jeff Green and tomorrow Carol and finally the Trivia Sensation. That's what the nation. Hq Trivia officially died over the weekend man heck of a run though right not really. I was quick. It ascended to the mountaintop and then fell very quickly. I wouldn't say heck of a run. It was a very short while when it was running. Man It was running. I guess you're Right Cup of coffee but it on the poll. Hq Trivia Heck of a run man or a cup of coffee. Where do you need a security camera on your boards to help protect deliveries helping? Keep your family safe when you travel. How about alerting you when the kids get over in school where you need blink? Security Cameras Visit BLINKPROTECT DOT COM SLASH. Dan For all the latest headlines and information in the Sports Center on. Espn radio all throughout the day. Happy Sixty third birthday to one of the most likeable people in the history of television Vanna White and happy birthday to her. I don't care. Good Luck tweeter writes in. The Astros story has run its course. Mlb was built on cheating most famous. Hr Its history arguably Bobby Thompson shot heard round. The world was the result of admitted sign. Stealing is what it is. Can we get the show back to the fun? Please Hashtag I need to laugh. I mean it's a pretty big story and all baseball players are coming out and saying things baseball players never come out and say and the Commissioner is backpedaling and calling the world series trophy a hunk of metal and saying he's going to write a memo that ends up punishing the players who throw at the cheaters more than it punishes the cheaters. It Ain't a small story man. What does he do here? What is rocky loser? My simply loses. But how do you prevent us from getting out of control you? Actually he's GonNa suspend people for hitting the Astros when he didn't suspend the Astros. This is what Manfred thought. Manfred thought when he gave those penalties at the very top of the food chain to people who were fired. He thought that that was GONNA win him. Popular vote and now the not only the audience is turned on him in a just loser position but now the players have and this is what happened to Goodell. Goodell was iron-fisted iron-fisted iron-fisted than he did Bounty Gate. And then all of a sudden the players were real comfortable pump publicly. Trashing him. Who Was it. Who which was the player that you guys played saying the only thing that values the hunk of metal that is the world series trophy is that the commissioners name is on that was just Justin Turner from the dodgers could have been Mitra those. The Astros really did a disservice because he let them off the hook and they didn't come out and apologize and they are like brazen about the stuff that they did and now they're offended that people are upset with them if they would have come out and apologized and it would have been like emotional and like they actually felt bad about it. I think that things would have been totally different. But the fact that they got no punishment they came out. They made a mockery of their first statements after waiting so long did him no favours whatsoever. They did sort of apologize. Just wasn't contrite and we didn't believe it and then almost immediately. They started getting super defensive. That's exactly how it happened. And what did they do? They had bregman and L. to they come out give us like twelve seconds of sound bites and then sprint. Into the Schroeder Jim Crane which was like a masterclass on exactly how not to handle one of these things came and then it got worse and then they fed dusty baker to the wolf's dusty essay poor dusty man like this sounds really bad but like does. He's kind of like you've been with someone for a long time and now it's your ex. And then they get like this new relationship who's been around for like four minutes and that person's like guys. Let's just talk about this. Just move on adults and take your seat like go away. This has absolutely nothing to do with you. Thanks for trying to be a peacemaker here but you have no idea what this history going on between us. Thanks but no thanks. I don't really need your input in this right now. It's exactly like that. We've been married to the Astros for a long time in dusty Baker's a new boyfriend getting involved in disagreement like where'd you find this guy dusty real winner and you got your Karen we are talking about baseball and the weekend was so much fun in basketball? Stu Gods that kind of dwarfed by everything is Hey Zion. During one of the Games bent the Rim John For Having Cincinnati. I'm saying there's so much stuff to happen during the weekend. That Zairean went out there and bent the Rim. And everyone was like Whoa. That doesn't happen all the time. What am I ever seen that? I've seen backboard shatter. But I haven't seen like I'm looking at the backboard. And the Raymond Raymond Bend when Russell Westbrook pulls up to three. I had questions about Zion last week. Sorry that was funny. That was a funny thing. Instead he was slobby and they had a white thing on his leg was your criticisms. I am Williamson. It's going to go down in the record. Books as you're the one who said something negative about Zion Williamson and now it puts you position where you have to root for him to get hurt. Thank you could be right. See I told you. I told you there was something suspicious about Zion. I wasn't buying what everyone else was selling. I don't need to root for it will happen. So Ben Affleck is on. I take and he was on. Get up Earlier today he is is selling a movie. Are you guys? GonNa be homeopathic on the Miami Heat this weekend on I'm actually quite disappointed. In Dunkin Robinson he led us down. I hope he took the bus home. Honestly instead of everyone talking about how. The Miami Heat swept the skills competition now. We're all talking about this controversy and the slam dunk contest. Just because Dwayne Wade is companyman. How Great was that For those of you who do not know this was just wonderful. Okay Ramona Shelburne. Did the only journalism done this weekend. Did it by talking to comment and Liberty Game? Mvp Com came up uncommon. Told her I don't know what happened at the end of the dunk contest. We all agreed to a tie and then somebody messed it up. I don't know and then people started looking at the video and it became fairly obvious that the WHO was Dwayne way like I mean. It just became obvious Dwayne Wade gave him a nine and then started laughing immediately. Started laughing and Scottie. Pippen and common both stared at Dwayne. Like what are you doing? And what he was doing is giving the trophy to Miami Guy. That's what he was doing. Chadwick Bozeman was unfazed by the whole thing honestly. He was unsettling mix in a smile. And then this is what. I need some help with the details on this because while the All Star game was wonderful. It really was and there. There was no criticism of the All Star game. I've told you before. I got my favorite thing in basketball. The last ten years it seeing the warriors down ten late and desperate. 'cause the better team needing to be great at the big moment is something that is worth watching. What you saw at the end of that game was everybody at the height of their powers. More talent on the floor than the warriors ever had an everyone was desperate to win. But what I WANNA know is powers I guess. Calories power is taken charges. James Harden's power is getting to the RIM and just meeting in three the analytics so embedded in James Harden that he passed on to win the All Star Game Corner and he looked to end up looking scared. But what I wanted to ask you guys is and you gotTa help me with this. Do the the poor kids on team. Janas not get scholarships like is that is that are they going to never forgive James Harden the is their future because change are and I'm asking I I don't know like a second place prize comfortable by the future of children. Hang in the balance at the end of. They thought they were doing something Nice. And it was able to see like kids like really happy. Their team won and the entire time. I'm thinking but like you just rip money away from them on what I'm asking you is that doing no did. James Harden cost poor kids in education. James Harden was on team Lebron team. Lebron ended up winning but it could have cost kids and education that I'm sorry I forgot that. Janas said that he didn't want James Harden anyway are on his team. Janas has a problem with James Harden. Donna said before the game. He said before the game that he wasn't taking James Harden because he doesn't pass and then he said after the game that the whole offense was predicated on just attack James Harden at the end of the also through Elbow James. Harden's face and don't forget that one time that he peg James Harden in the face with basketball. I think legitimately has a problem with James Harden ever been knocked down. You know suffered a setback. Fired left out it happens. It happens a Mike. Bloomberg middle class kid worked his way through college. Got A job started. A family boom fired at thirty nine. Would it Mike do for a lot of us? Do we got backup dove back. And he had an idea design computer able to quench data and process information in a unique way he built it. He sold it he built more. He sold more. He built team. He built a company created. Twenty Thousand Jobs. Bloomberg is door. This is Michael Douglas. I've played a president and movies. This is real world. This is our World Mike. 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They won't invite Aubrey Huff to a reunion of the two thousand ten world series winning team this summer because of unacceptable comments made by Hoff on social media. Sports books are expecting teams to hit Astros. Batters plenty this season. One sportsbook in particular has the over under at eighty three and a half astros batters getting plunked and all Astros batters getting hit one hundred fifty times at two hundred one eighty three and a half times. The modern era record belongs to the Indians. A two thousand eight as their batters hit one hundred three times and finally a person brought their mini service horse onto a plane. They were seated in first class. I mean many service horse. What's what's the next stop here. Where are we going with service? Animals right and got a mini horse addresses a superhero in first class. What's the next evolution of this? Like what are we going to bring on airplanes at service? I don't know what I do. Have the answer for. It's a monkey. That's the best service in what's got opposable thumbs. It can go get your stuff and bring it back. It's cute but can also rip your face off everyone's feisty today Man Baseball. Astros got a passionate sports center brought to you by Bolt Twenty four at advance. Hydrogen for athletes off the field with antioxidant vitamins. Anc electrolytes from watermelon at sea. Salt no artificial flavors or sweeteners. Bolt twenty four P- all day hydration for all day athletes for all the latest headlines and information tune the sportscenter on ESPN radio all throughout the day. What do you make of that Aubrey? Huff story and Stugotz this weekend. Observations are going to be in thirty minutes thirty minutes from now. We're going to get all of Stugatz is weekend observations. But Aubrey huff for those of you who do not know. It was fairly startling to see him get hot at like he's an okay. Baseball player was an okay baseball player for a his career. I don't believe he's an above average baseball player. I believe he's a totally average to below average baseball player. Who happened to get hot during an enormously important time for the San Francisco giant and they won the world series and they won the world series because he was great during that season and that postseason and now the ten year reunion of that championship team is happening and Aubrey. Huff has not been invited back to the gay Back to you know celebrate with his teammates and remember with his teammates. And it's something that the giants are saying is not for his politics. Although he's been very vocal politically. It's because of some of the things that he has said about gender and race and now those two things and being folded into politics and twenty twenty like they're supposed to be different things gender and race are supposed to be two things over here in politics are supposed to be over there but those things in a divided country where you've got you've got people fighting amid Gender race you've got it becoming politics but the giants are saying this is not about politics. This is about Aubrey huff. Just being generally despicable is is what the giants are saying and He wrote a book Baseball Junkie. The rise fall and redemption of a world series champion. He said he abused Adderall and because of it had depression panic attacks Thought about suicide. He says quote. I was an absolute scumbag. Most of my life He said he spent most of his drinking gambling driving. Drunk faking prescriptions head His habit from his wife bought clean urine from a friend to dodge drug testing. None of those of the reasons that Aubrey huff is not being invited back. The reasons are some things that he has said. The giants have a first base coach. A woman and among the things he has said is couldn't imagine taking baseball instruction from an ex female softball player. Have Fun with that. And then he hashtag Brandon Crawford Brandon Belt and Buster Posey I got in trouble for wearing a thong in my own clubhouse when female reporters were present. Can't imagine how play out with a full time female coach running around this has hashtag me too and Hashtag believe all women written all over it. What do you make of all that? Well off in that world series you so people are clearly attitude. Ninety four had a home run for B. Is He was good? He was a big reason other. The giants ended up winning. Thank God I mean I was GonNa Rattle through every single stanton that he had That answered my question by giving my looking up his world series. Set up when I was GONNA say we're GONNA do and respect great content that order. There's things I mean how soon as I mean. I had something for them. That was amazing. It really was just one home. Run Four R. B. I.'s in the World Series Twenty Grady was wanted to land. It's called Mount in your teammate. Out before the preamble to thought I was GonNa want truthfully told I was just giving him time to have a thought. Yeah and he looked up as world series. Play more after that but you could never predict the so if you were arrested with no explanation. What would your friends and family assume you had done arrested for no explanation? Oh man this is somehow dicey than the actual. Aubrey huff can reverse if we go back to. You can't control what you can't do anything with the magic creative random in trouble Goss. He'll know yes tax sort of saw Jim sort of fraud. It's it's pretty easy but if I was arrested if I mean I'm GonNa go drunk drunk and disorderly same for me. I you know what I might. I might have gotten in trouble at various points in my life for public urination arrested for public urination. How's that just driving business obtain? Dwp old drive. And what would it be for? Billy Billy what would your family and friends assume they were arrested for. Yeah can you be too worried about things? Cry Look suspicious because the police were around you and you'd be afraid of them and they're like nobody would be that afraid unless they had done sir twenty five miles under the speed limit. I might also get. I also might get arrested for road rage as well and I'll tell you why this is surprising to me in my fifties. What are you under your breath to make everyone laugh? Live like two blocks from here. How can you get angry in that short? A baller move. His Dad lives like two blocks from here and he's still valley's car every day really inefficient like a giant wasted. Like it has to take longer for you to get to your car. Move Your car from where it is. Park your car The truth is that I'm generally doing things before I come over here but one of the things that I've discovered while doing these things is that late life. I've become a honker. Put It on the poll at Lebatardshow. Have you become a honker because I'm mad at a couple of different things that happen one of them? Is these uber drivers. The Uber drivers are making me crazy. Thinking that they don't have to abide by any laws whatsoever the other one. That's making me crazy is there has not been a stop light anywhere in America. Where someone's not on their phone. There's not anywhere in America where there's not a stop light. It's someone's in their telephone and not seeing that the light put put this on the poll as well. I understand how old all this sounds. I'm GONNA fight with your window down while shaking a fist. Jeez this is a get off my lawn moment. It really is and I'm a lost man. This show has the first hour of the show. I called Marquee Kazman. Cejka'S I I had James Harden on the wrong all star team and before you say anything. God's you're calling him Alex Korea for about about a month. Now you're calling the shortstop of the ass out of you. It's a preemptive measure nine fifty seven Opie s and that world series. Look I don't know how I make money moves gamma put it on. The poll is reciting Aubrey Huff. Stats the most cowardly things. God's is ever done it was a British L. is a bridge too. You do splits bridge. And here's what we did against lefties go. You'RE GONNA dip into his my college days. Playing people protect your loved ones and your valuables by installing blink cameras in and around your home. Is Anyone WanNa talk about this story with me because I actually liked to discuss it? I think it's pretty interesting that the giants are saying here that somebody's public. Commentary is despicable enough that they don't want to celebrate with him in a union even though they're bringing all sorts of attention to this by banning him from their reunion thankfully every week day. You have a show on television where you could actually talk to smart people who have interested in these dangerous conversation. Exactly Yeah I would love to watch that. Yeah Donlevatar Tom. Ricketts is saying that comes will not allow Sammy Sosa back into that organization for anything moving forward until he comes clean and what I find absurd about that. And what a hypocrite. This guy is is that family made hundreds of millions of dollars off the name. Sammy Sosa by the way. Never tested positive for steroid use and if he was using steroids which we all assume that he was. My guess is if he was using it. The Ricketts family had an inkling that that was going on in their own clubhouse ever hit a come out many many years later as a sammy. Sosa must come clean for us to allow him back into our prestigious organization. Our Club get. Outta here with that stugatz. Richardson and make money off. Sammy Sosa. He won the bid in two thousand and nine. This was post Sammy Sosa. Well that ruins my argument visa lebatardshow with two guys on ESPN RADIO. Espn radio is presented by progressive insurance. All guests on the Dan Le Guitar Joe Appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sportscenter update. The giant says they won't invite Aubrey huff to a reunion of the two thousand ten world series winning team this summer because of unacceptable comments made by half on social media. Sports books are expecting teams to hit astros. Batters plenty of this season. One sportsbook in particular has the over under an eighty three and a half astros batters getting plunked and all Astros batters getting hit one hundred fifty times a two hundred to one. The modern era record belongs to the Indians in two thousand eight as their batteries. Were hit a hundred and three times told me on that too. A lot of leaning in two thousand and eight wall passes Indians days and finally at a charity concert or two thousand and three Justin timberlake was pelted with bottles of urine. He knew what the time is. Act Wasn't going to go over well with the crowd buddy was asked. Personally by Mick Jagger and according to him you don't say no to make Jagger put it on the poll Guillermo de you say no to Mick Jagger for all the latest headlines Information tune into sports center on ESPN radio all throughout the day. GonNa get to Stugatz is weekend. Observations in the second. Many of you are texting and emailing that Aubrey. Huff also said that we should invade Iran and kidnap. It's women quote. Let's get a flight over and kidnap about ten each. We can bring them back here as they fan us and feed us grapes amongst other things and then in defense of the joke he tweeted does not have a sense of humor anymore. The Way Iranian women are treat over there. I simply wanted to say I'd go there to rescue them and bring them back to the states and they would be so thankful to escape that hell that they'd fan me and feed me grapes. All I'm telling you is that I find it interesting while not defending Aubrey huff or anything that he says in any way that he is now suffered more punishment than the astros. Let's get to Stugotz's weekend observations. It is time for Stugotz to share his game notes. No one in the media will tell you what happened better than my voice to weekend. Observations wrought by vivid seats download the vivid seats at and enter Promo Code. Espn TWENTY-FIVE AT checkout to get ten percent off your next order. Don't buy just any seat. Get a vivid see then all it took was a single quarter some steaks little pride little ego and boom just like that the NBA. All Star game is back dragons over the vipers any given Saturday Laura gators. Women's Lacrosse beating Maryland at Maryland. Statement Game I had no idea. Jose altuve higher the PR firm of Carlos and Korea. Carlos Correa Not Quite Greg Anderson but did you are a good friend Rob Not rob. Who cares the problem is it's Aaron Gordon at Jerry Jones Junior? If Aaron Gordon Actually Got Rod. I'm not certain I care who would walk telling me. Aaron Gordon Got Rod is like telling me some Guy Bill Mason from Kalamazoo. Michigan got rod at expecting me to care. Tell me Lebron's ion got wrong. You don't do Dan yes you know what I'll do. What will you do hair? That's it we're famous. You are the more I got scared. I who cares rob we know the dunker the NBA. None of them are participating. That's the problem is not our junior or exactly or bill makes but probably I on Kalamazoo issue we don't Kalamazoo new. Nba All Star format raid idea. Right up it's a one of the all stars on a contending team get seriously injured. James Harden is so immune to layups. He passed up on one to win the NBA. All Star game most shocking thing. That happened over the weekend turning on the radio during our show yesterday. Not Knowing who the guest was and learning quickly it was. Tom Logan Bill. Would you say immune to layups instead of allergic to Layup Cadet allergic anyway? Logie sorry there are some amendments about Ryan The Washington Third Baseman Ryan Zimmerman. Luganville was on our show. You after a big first week not McCloy. What eight for. Nineteen for forty four yards and two picks. You know what that means Dan I it means he took a big step back. Okay I was GONNA say fill to give. It could've been Mike. Tomlin saying he would want the story to go away and in the next breath saying he would aggressively pursue legal action. Mike Tomlin stugatz is struggled yet. By the way we all agree anything. Mike Tomlin pursues. He pursues aggressively. I know goats could live fifty seven years happy. Belated Birthday to Michael Jordan. The Diana's city not mcglone interview is one of the many reasons I love the XFL. If I was at serious legal trouble and needed to hire attorney I would hire Mike Tomlin. Audience everyone listen. I want you to close your eyes for a second. Imagine a black defensive end in the NFL accusing a white quarterback of calling him the n word. Now imagine the white quarterbacks name was mason. Rudolph imagine the white quarterbacks head coach doing the research and defending Mason Rudolph on national. Tv to Stephen a Smith. Now imagine the head coach was black nasty scar. You're in big trouble when I no longer care about the Daytona. Five hundred did Matthew mcconaughey. I like talking to the jury. And which one was it. The firm firm. That was Tom Cruise. Twenty five dollars and it was gene had done the Cayman Islands. The only way you can have any sort of racial conversation is through the prism of Matthew. Megani kill the great American race. If I'm in the NBA. Or if I ran the NBA. I'd experiment with one. Nba Finals Game. First team. To One twenty wins. I finally realized why disliked. Jj Watt. He's me Ardell Jones. Xfl Mvp Collision Course twenty-seven and nothing. Dan They don't call them the defenders per nothing. Landry Jones in scoot. Pj Walker only playing on Sundays collision course open to be a fly on the wall. When Rob Manford heard the news that Justin Turner said the only thing devaluing the world series trophy is having the commissioners name on it. Roy Williams we get it. Your team stakes fix it. Kyri was voted as the next. Vp of the Players Union. I mean who better to show fellow players and to make a lot of money by barely playing the sport. They are paid a play. Mel Kiper 's latest mock has Jacob facing to the Patriots. My latest mock also has Jacob into the Patriots and then can't Ohio five years after his Mel Kiper has the dolphins taking just in Herbert Reason. He could chuck it all over the field. True good reason reports lions White Zoa dolphins like Herbert regardless. If to is there or not dead you know what season it is. It's the lying season Dan by the way the reporter who made that report. God is news from a Dolphin representative. Who was dining at a restaurant called smokescreen unite? Beat the battle hawks. You'll have to kill them. I hard and Mike and my rights to the final whistle to the two thousand seventeen Red Sox who scored eleven runs in the AL DS and didn't score more than four in anyone gay and who took part in the cheating the very next season do me a favor. Shut up to the two thousand seventeen New York Yankees who scored three runs it. Four Road Games in the LCS had a three two series lead and lost a Charlie Morton in game seven. Do me a favor shot up to the two thousand seventeen Los Angeles dodgers who won a game in Houston in the world series loss to home games including a loss in game. Seven Two Charlie. Morton do me a favor. Shut up really good is more more funny funny name. He's known for being really good but it's funny report. Colorado wants to interview Bret Bielema Question. Why Report Bulls might part ways with Gore forming? The news here was Gar. Forman is still running. The bowl question is are forming. The only person in the history of the world named GAW isn't a poll. Gears are short for something are forming the only person in the history of the world named Gar one of the spotted sports great mysteries Gar. Nick Ziying Lamelo ball which means they will get a lightning oilers Lord Stanley Collision Course. Sportsbook set the over under on the amount of time. The Astros get plunked at Eighty. Three and a half. Jesus Christ Band Red Sox the age JD. Martinez said the Astros bashing is a bit much. That sounds like a man who by far had career highs in RBI's batting average and on base percentage and is awaiting the fate of the two thousand eighteen red sox cheating scandal Joe Burrow on the Bengals if they select me they. Select me encouraging. If Rob Manfred does it fix his mistake start. Suspending some astros players. There's going to be held a pay. Dan Speaking of help our Brian Dan. Those are the weekend observations. Espn radio is presented by progressive insurance. Ron Miguel go to join us in. Just a second here on the Shell Pennzoil performance line. Take your phone call. Seven eight six four five six four eight three seven. Here's your sports interrupdate. Update drew brees has announced that he will return next season to the NFL. Free agent. They kings traded tyler folly to the CANUCKS had Roy. Hopefully I mean they traded Roy Foley the Foley to the canucks for Tim. Schallert the rights to Tyler Madden's contract twenty twenty second round pick and a conditional fourth rounder in two thousand twenty two and finally sonic the Hedgehog Zoom Past. Box Office expectations this weekend. To a debut weekend of seventy million dollars it's paramount studios biggest opening since mission. Impossible fallout. He's sports center. Brought to you by advance auto parts think ahead. Think advance at any time one. Four batteries is about to fail. Get a free battery free installation with any automotive battery. Purchase only at advance auto parts for all the latest headlines and information tune into sports center on. Espn radio all throughout the day. If you want to talk to Ron McGill seven. Eight six four five six four eight three seven. Is the telephone number. I heard Ron McGill story. Does this wonderful thing occasionally. It do Miami where it's Sex and the animals. It's a scientific thing but it's also a funny thing in an interesting thing and he told a story. I'd never heard him tell before. Which is Ron? I was hoping you would tell the audience. Which is the time that you dressed up as a giant bird. You're six foot six. You've got a a mustache and you dressed up a giant as a giant bird to arouse another giant bird. Well I'm going to bring this up. Dan Yeah you know to get the bird what we do is. We'd have to collect semen to artificially inseminate birds and we don't want to artificially them. We don't want to chemically immobilized. The bird so the trick is to stimulate him to voluntarily. Donate the semen so to do that. I have to kind of dress up like a female bird. Us kind of like a raincoat. That has kind of like a head on it. It looks like the bird and then I have to do the dance in front of the bird because the dance is part of the courtship that stimulates the bird to reproduce so after studying the dance. What I do is I kind of do the same dance. And then the the bird does a dance back to me and at the appropriate time of the dance is when I just bend over and stand still so the bird can mount me. There's a Little Collection Cup at the base of my back that I just kind of have to sit there and the you know the breathe me and make positive that Little Cup that collected by. It's not really funny of science. We're trying to save and dangerous. Did you question your life choices at that point? Did you strange burden that. We're trying to save endangered species. Kim Dylan you're on with Ron McGill. Zoo Miami go ahead Dylan. Hey Ron I lived in California right before the lesser take all the birds. Take off right before it happened. how does it they and other animals? Now what's GonNa Happen before well understand? That earthquake starts not necessarily right. Where you're at. You're not usually at the epicenter of the earthquake So they sense these tremors way before you sense them Understand that These tremors you know even in water fish do the same thing. They can sense things way before we as humans. Consents them Because the those tremors travel long distances very quickly and way ahead of the time when you feel that the strong ones. So that's what they're sensing. They're sensing that Because they're hyper sensitive to those types of environmental changes because that's what their survival depends on Barry Rice Edwin. You're on with Ron McGill of zoo. Miami go ahead Edwin said when I was curious my dog who I let every day He looks at me getting the I every single time that he's Qiuping and I was just wondering what what was going on. Is that why does that happen? you know. It's all speculative it could be one of two things. The first thing is he's telling you this is my territory. Look at me. I'm marking this. See this is mine. I'm Markus or he's looking at you like really. You're staring at me while I do this. It's one of those two had homes Austin you're on. Espn Radio Austin. Go ahead My question is someone's getting into my trash but only live around squirrels and birds but they're only getting out chicken wing bones and I didn't think squirrels would want that. So what is it most likely raccoons opossums? They're the greatest trash raters on the planet. There found throughout the country very very common very intelligent than the than the respect that they can get into almost any kind of trash receptacle and chicken bones are a love of theirs. Zach Elliott Dan you're on ESPN radio. Go ahead Dan. Hey Ron our cat likes to steal my girlfriend socks and hide them. I didn't know if there was a reason that she did this. Or if she's just being a little bit. Thanks again. It's kind of like a territory thing. It's a possession thing it's Announcing that she's kind of head one and Year in is is a is a huge communicator for animals. That's how they communicate sexual reception. That's how they communicate dominance and territory. That's how they established territory and that's that cat is doing is basically establishing herself Against or with someone who she may think is a competitor oricon specific Zach Prescott. Steve you're on Ron Maclean. Steve you're on with Ron McGill. Zoo Miami just keep it moving right. Hey Ron this is Steve. I live off the shore of Lake Michigan as I was watching the shore and we had some eagles. I was wondering. Aren't they supposed to fly south for the winter? And what are they doing still Michigan? Well you know it's one of a couple of reasons. The flight south could have been delayed or postponed simply because it didn't get as cold as they thought it was going to get. You know. Climate change is is changing migration patterns of all kinds of animals whether it be birds whether it be butterflies with insects these these patterns changing climate change. So it's hard to say why those particular animals do not follow. What was you know Originally a normal migration round Carson went gem you're on ESPN radio with Ron Miguel. Go ahead Jim. Hey wrong I grew up in. Pa Coca Pommie. Obviously home on Tony Fill. We all know that animals out there that can actually protect always even or model. I don't think there's animals can predict early seasons of weather for that matter I do predict it. I do think there are animals that can predict when big storms coming hurricanes for instance. I remember being down here in South Florida during Hurricane Andrew and the day of Hurricane Andrew. I was beautiful. It was a breezy day blue skies puffy white clouds yet. I could not find a single native bird native animal around the park. That's normally full of him. And I thought that was interesting. Of course that storm came in that evening was catastrophic. There's something that told those animals to get out of dodge and I actually use those animals as an indicator to me When I hear there's a hurricane warning if I go out and I see the birds are still around. I said okay hurricanes coming but it's not gonNA be as bad as a possibly be or maybe has they're predicting if I see. Birds have gone out of town. I start to get really worried run. I've seen a lot of products lately. Cbd products for dogs. And I'm wondering one what your thoughts are on those two of their more effective than things like thunder jackets and stuff like that. You know. I'm certainly not a doctor or veterinarian. So I don't know I do know this that there really aren't placebos for animals. So if you have an animal that is being treated with. Cbd and you see an improvement in its health It's not faking that. It's not a placebo. It doesn't think getting something that it's not you know. The animal does know that so I tend to think that it it it does work and I think we learned a lot from animals in the reactions. They have to certain types of treatments for things that can be applied to human beings. So I I look for animals for an honest And honest expression of how something is working as opposed to being fooled by placebo effect. Jomar Jackson Jeremy you're on. Espn Radio Jeremy. With Ron McGill of zoo Miami. Go ahead what's up boys. What's up on. I've got a question. There's a lot of flood where I'm at. I'm seeing a lot of water moccasins. Can they bite you weather swimming in the water? Absolutely they can. That's a big misconception. That water moccasins cannot bite when they're swimming around the water Water moccasins also known as cotton mouth Or Black moccasins can very easily by when they're swimming in the water that's how they catch a lot of their fish. As a matter of fact sometimes Kyle Murray Dr k you're on ESPN radio. With Ron McGill. Go ahead Dr K. is locked case. West Virginia established as not you know good for the public bird populations like we get more awareness about this with the increase in importantly Arturo Barbara my worried about the decrease in bird. I don't know what happened. He was swallowed by and sort of talking to flush the toilet hit a bong. What was that something? I don't know what happened. I think we have lost thirty percent of our birds in the world and that's a huge huge red flag because like he was indicating birds do control things from rodents to being disperses and The fact that we're losing all of these species and these numbers Especially are something profoundly concerned about. I've heard those bubbles before. Let's look at this video here week. Ten right okay. Here we go all right. Let's play. Oh we got to Woodstock Now not a white stork European stock in. She's got three chicks. There is typical. Oh God she's grabbing a chick. No no no no. I know what this is going to end like. Oh now she's GonNa pick it up. You know she's not. GonNa pick her baby over the edge. No can't happen it got stolen. Please please please. Oh okay bring it back. She let her go to it over the end of the. That's it that's the video mother just exactly. That's exactly what you just showed me. That were thought here. Oh my God oh horrible. Why why would we do that when I did we? Well why don't you put that video in front of me like that? Do this horrible thing. Why did this happen? Why did a mother? It's what what happens is the mother cannot produce enough food for all three babies so she instinctively sacrifices one. But I don't need to see that Dan. I don't need to see that. You know that freaking Stugatz with Leon McCarty Lamar Jackson. What the Hell is going on here? The segment just went to the dogs. Today I'll talk to you guys. Next Week Breezy Donlevatar ARD. Espn allowed this Stugatz. They're talking sports going at. It is hard as they can. Bcc Donlevatar show with STUGATZ ON ESPN radio. Espn radio is presented by progressive insurance. James Murray and Brian Quinn. The impractical jokers could enjoy it as just a second here on the shell. Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sportscenter. Update the North Carolina Tar heels have lost three of their last four games on last second shot after blowing a fifteen point lead and losing by one and Notre Dame North Carolina will have a losing record going into the ACC tournament for the first time since the two thousand and one two thousand to seize it. Drew brees has announced. He will return next year and finally. Kate Middleton says she enjoyed labor. Thanks to hype no birth. Be Hypno- birth okay. I mean that. Looks like hype? No birth to me it no birth. But it also looks like Hypno- birth to many people who can read sports center brought to you by advance auto parts that go ahead. They advance at any time. One four batteries is about the fail. Get a free battery tests that free installation with any automotive battery. Purchase only at advance auto parts for all the latest headlines. Information tune the sportscenter on ESPN radio all throughout the day. No I know. You mentioned Labor simulation you mentioned labor and Brian. Quinn has had labor simulation. We'll get to that in a second. But James Murray and Brian Quinn Their new film impractical jokers. The movie is in theaters this Friday. They join us now. Thank you gentlemen for making the time. I'd like to start with James. Though if I told you about ten years ago. When you guys started on Tru TV that it would become what from there? What how are you guys thinking about? What would become? We knew it would be this exactly and this is so clear to us now when created. Tv show. I don't think you ever know if it's going to hit most shows don't work. They fail in the first season. The most don't even make it a full season so especially when no-one knows what they're doing on the show like we didn't know we've no yeah first season the first two seasons we shot and center definition because the network didn't require hard F- yet and when they switched to high death. We're like Oh that's why we did not know what we're doing back then but We we were very fortunate. We have a really strong fan base grew and grew and We create the tower and the tour led to the jokers crews. Were just leading Miami We were just there gentleman and and now we have a movie. It's been a crazy crazy ride so but can you tell me what you expected. Did you expect anything? No we expect anything. There's no way there's I it's it's I know you're directed these questions tumor this. I'm sorry guys I had to jump in because I love speaking negatively so not expecting things is my favorite thing of all I. It's this is no way. There's no way like four middle aged slobs from Staten Island. We're going to start goofing around each other camera. And everybody's in love and we're going to be it's improbable it's very impractical. One might say point counterpoint. I did plan all this from high school. The accused cop out a lot probably felt ready for it. Yeah you guys have influences. Yeah we're looking at some of them on the wall in the studio here. Yes you've Richard. Pryor we see the cast always I mean you've got Bill Murray over yeah I mean I'm under the influence right now. Does that help you guys? Like what you premier day boys out premiers tonight. Yeah I started I. I like to start early. You know you guys nervous. The movie's done out of our hands. At this point I am nervous for the weekend. You Know I. It opens around the country. Friday is the opening weekend if it does well. It will go to more and more theaters and grow so. I am a bit nervous for the weekend. But we'll see we'll see. I mean we have one of those shows that like people people like real people like we. Don't we never get a lot of love? From like reviewers or comedy. Snobs or anything like that. So I'm kind of excited to see what real reviewers have to say about us? I'm looking forward to framing. Possibly the worst of them. I'm going to be really excited about that. We also made the movie for fans you know so like over the nine years of filming the TV show ten years now. We saved up all the most the craziest punishment ideas we've ever had the craziest Challenge ideas and we put it into the movie because we couldn't afford to put it in the TV show. We only had a half hour so we really made the movie fans. What happened to your finger man? What happened there So our movie premieres tonight. We're going. We're shipping US around all the country this weekend to surprise fans and pop into theaters and last night at ten thirty last night. I sliced the tip of my finger off and wound up in the hospital review hours so for the next two three weeks. This is this is my life. He showed me the pictures. It's horrific he has no more fingerprint. Nomo fingerprint records in you be good depending Ohio careers ago. Yeah that's true. That's a sick prank. I gotTa tell you what happened. What is the worst of the pranks that you guys have endured? I'm sure you get this question a lot I. It's a good question because it changes every season so like this because everything gets worse and worse weren't season. We started shooting Seton season so it just gets worse and worse so like last year we shot this bit at Universal Studios in California. And I don't know if you guys have been there but there's that tram ride that you go on to teach it through the back lot. Somebody gives you information about the studio. It's probably not even true. And there's like a New York City. Subway is one of those lines that you pulled to stop it so they had me stop it nine times nine times nine times on a forty five minute ride guys. I had family men fathers with their children on vacation. And this is a direct quote. Stand up and go. I'm going to find you and kick your ass when this ride is over. Yeah people children were screaming at me. There was worst. It was by far my worst moment again counterpoint. It was one of my favorite days. So that's how the show works. We got the hang out on the back to the future set because we shot like right there so our home base was was the courthouse from back to the future. So me and Moore were running into because security guards. Whatever you WANNA do. We went into the courthouse. Went to the roof. We were like looking for artifacts. How about James? Tell me when you had your childhood. Crush was win. Cooper from the wonder years right so you had to talk to her in a Speedo. Where does that rank in terms of embarrassments? That you've had to keep this mind. I never imagined in my life. I would meet her. I never imagined when I did meet her. My nipples would be out. So that was. That was doubly embarrassing. It was until the movie. That moment was the most embarrassing moment. In my life I turned around walked to the door and hidden the door frame but in the movie. I'll give you a little spoiler without take too much. But in the movie my birthday fell in the middle of filming and we filmed the move all day finished at like six. Pm and the guys like let's coiffier birthday. Tomorrow's Leo get cool. We'll go to a bar or drinking. And he took me out after that and what I didn't know is that hours later on my birthday night. That was actually part of the movie as well and the whole night was instructed and that moment in the movie is the most embarrassing moment of my life. It's horrible all right so you can give us a little more. They're just a little more. Come on people are GonNa WanNa Watch the movie or they're not going to watch the movie. Here is my life before that moment and this is my life after. That moment did not going to give us a way. Does I will say this. That doesn't involve just about every member of my family. Who He didn't know was in town. Yeah James Murray Brian with us on. Espn radio the new film impractical jokers. It comes out in theaters. This Friday. Keep you have a fear of spiders? Of course you were chained to a table. Spiders crawled across your body. Put us there. Put us there. Put us in your head okay. Let me correct. I'm not afraid of spiders. Spiders are tiny little bugs that nobody cares about. I'm scared of Tarantulas. Which have no place on planet earth? As far as I'm concerned the huge the Harry. So what they did is they took me to this. Like abandoned warehouse in the middle of Brooklyn shackled me with chains to aboard. And they brought in a Tarantula Wrangler and F. That Guy. Because life wanting to be a tarantula wrangler what of society go screw yourself to Rancho his role in Brooklyn. I probably can't curse curses to say that guy. So they chained me down to the board and they start releasing tarantulas on me and they cut this. But I want you guys to know this because I know guys guys when I see him. I'm looking at the two year right now. I was so terrified that I snapped a chain to get off like in college like that and and they cut they cut it down like we can't have that that's not funny. If you break the chains I'll care about funny. The fact that they re chain me to it and put twice as many tarantula at the end of it. I don't know if you guys know this tarantulas. Shed they have husks now? You know you over the Tarantula Husk and pour it over my head. And that's where I found out gentlemen that I was allergic to tarantula hosts because I broke out in hives. All over my body from tarantula off like corn yeah. That was a terrible day. That was the last day of shooting on season. Six six or seventy six and the crew afterwards usually I wrap. Parties are insane because we have degenerates crew. This wrap party. They were like man. That wasn't funny. We didn't find that it was like a real sombre affair again counterpoint. One of the greatest days of my life to both of you have terrible tattoos that you've had to endure because of I've got a Ferret. Skydiving Tattoo on my thigh. I like my to my tattoo is because I keep a real so mine live alone with three. Ki- I have three cats and I live alone so Joe Gadoe gave me a tattoo. A biker tattoo with like a cute kitten and it says lives alone has three cats thirty eight lives. That's the problem is it was instantly. Dated your now forty five forty but like by. Tattoo and it's also on my arm like whatever he has to show people as Tattoo. He's got Yank his pants down. So I I made up pretty good which Which one of you forgive my ignorance here? Which one of you had to simulate Labor? I don't know what that's like. A Goes Q. That's me and this is really starting to feel like a dog pile. They put well. It's not just that they put these electrodes on you. That that gives you the pain of birth simulate the yeah childbirth. But that wasn't enough. They put me in a room with pregnant women. Giving a speech like I took about eight months pregnant giving a speech to pregnant women about what it was going to be light to give birth as if a man would know and then shocked me in the middle of it so I was speak through this pain trying to tell the women how it's not gonNA to be that bad while while screaming at the same time. What's the people or someone who's been with you? During all of this our goal is never to get people angry. They really don't. It's amazing what we can get away with and I think most people realize that the joke is on us and not on them We've had a couple of close encounters. Yeah some dude hit Murray on the head with a cellphone. Well there's that that was one of my favorites some some dude. Cut the tip of my finger last night. You know. Seventy seventy five year old World War Two vet Grab Sal by his ear and pulled them out of line out. He was beaten off. You choked him out. He would have been great games. Jerry and Brian Quinn. New Film Impractical jokers the movies in theaters this Friday guys. Thank you for joining us. We appreciate it. Thank you say one more thing before we go is that right. Yeah I just WanNa let the fans of the show know that. It's a limited release so it's it's You have to go see it opening weekend if if you wanted to get any wider so anybody out there that loves this show and plans are going to see the movie. You'd be doing us a huge favor and other fans of of the show favor if if it went wider and the second weekend so don't wait. Us giving ten dollars to every family goes this weekend. I'm not doing that. 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144. Feature Presentation - Aliens (1986) (with special guest Josh Effengee)

Midnight Double Feature - A Film Podcast

3:15:57 hr | 9 months ago

144. Feature Presentation - Aliens (1986) (with special guest Josh Effengee)

"The you freely admit to detonating engines of and thereby destroying an in class star freighter a rather expensive piece of hardware twenty two million adjusted dollars. That's modest pilot of course the lifeboat lifeboat's flight recorder corroborates some parts of your account in that for reasons unknown shrimp sat down on. Lv Four to six an surveyed planet at the time that it resumed. Its course course was subsequently set for self destruct by you for reasons unknown not for reasons unknown. I told you we set down there on company. Orders get this thing thing which destroyed my crew and your expensive ship. The analysis team which went over the lifeboat centimeter-by-centimeter found no physical evidence of the creature. You describe good. That's because I blew out the Goddamn airlock like I said there are no spaces like this hostile organism on. Lv Four Twenty six. It's a rock. No indigenous life to accused just dropped sharply while I was away. Ma'am I already said. It was not indigenous as derelict. Spacecraft was an alien ship it was not from there you get it we homed in on its beacon and found something never recorded once in any of the three hundred seven wells a creature that just I it's inside living human hosts daisy awards and has concentrated acid but block. That's right look I can see this going but I'm telling you these things things exist. Thank you officer. That will be all please. You're not listening to me. Cain the crew member king who went into that ship. He said he saw thousands of eggs. There thousands thank you. That will be all God damn it. That's not all because of just one of these things gets down there. Then then all of this the bullshit. You think it's important that all the by it is the finding of this quarter of inquiry that warrant officer Ripley in. OC One four four seven two has acted with questionable judgment and is unfit to hold nicety license as a commercial flight officer said licensed hereby suspended indefinitely. No criminal charges will be filed against you. At this time you are released on your own recognizance for six months of psychometric probation to include monthly review by an ICU psychiatric technician. These proceedings proceedings are closed after floating in space for fifty seven years. Lieutenant Ellen Ripley shuttle was found by a deep space salvage team. After being rescued she agreed to return. LB will be four to six to help a group of marines locates lost colonists however she and her well armed companions finally won survivor a nine year old girl named Newt living in the colony to their horror they soon discover that they are anything but alone on the remote planet. Welcome to another feature presentation of midnight. Double feature on this episode. We'll be covering nineteen ninety-six aliens directed by James Cameron. Gentlemen Welcome back to another episode of midnight double feature this presentation full of firsts for us First Time we're diving into the alien franchise the first time we have josh from L. J. Media on how you doing Josh what's going on. I'm doing very well. I'm excited to be here. You've you've learned the C. team from MSG media media boy. Even the team is good and of course. My main man calling colonnade undergo buddy. How you guys do Josh? Thanks for coming on man. Thank you for having me and boy were you Were you awfully kind to let me make some recommendations or hopeful picks for movies. I would like to cover and for settling on this guy. Well dude good. I mean the three movies that you throw at us. I was like Damn. He's throwing out some some heavy hitters out some heavy hitters. 'cause like Cullen I have this like unspoken list of movies that we're not really. We're so scared to touch. Because we don't have the confidence to do them justice and again I don't know about ah one of them but two of those movies are my list like you know what I mean. And this is one of those lists movies like of course like fucking James Cameron's ninety six eighty eighty six aliens like Jesus walk before we dive right into it Guys thank you so much for listening to this episode. We obviously not failure. This is what's called called a feature presentation episode wading through Aliens. We're going to do it sequentially we're going to be wearing. We're going to be spoiling it. Obviously if you haven't seen this buck in what is it thirty year L.. Maybe yes forty. Yeah and yeah. We're GONNA have a damn good time doing it. So if you I haven't seen this movie at night why switch this off and then come back and follow us on our social media double feature which is a main page and then we have the after party which is a little community. The group that's all he post Maine's News and Dick Pics. Whatever the fuck and feel free to follow us on Instagram Japan which is adamant on our facebook and twitter which is MD pod and plays remember to write and review us on I tunes? That would be fantastic. Josh everything you WanNa plug well unless she media as as the representative from there Specifically the thing I'm most involved with a not on nearly as many movies I used to be But my main thing I do with Dean as the the Exile politics a little bit of a niche thing but one of my favorite shows of all time and We have a blast with that. It's we love the show a lot but we have a lot of fun with it. we released episodes every other week. We started by selectively donate and then we said bucket. We love this thing. We went back in We're just wrapping up season two. These are back in the days when TV had like twenty five episodes of season. So they take us a while but Yeah that's kind of my my main thing on the Pod I'll tell you what slight slide tangent I mean I'm sure we're GONNA get into many tangents. This is the first book in. I'm following. I'm following your podcast. They exiles podcasts for the first time still. I haven't seen anything posses into of X.. Files kind of like watching his. I listen to you guys episode and watching another one. Listen to you guys. And it's just it's great it's a great way to experience that show And I love you guys have a corresponding facebook page as well for that one. Ben Parker is a mutual member of the also potty men not this shit this shit did good job for me and everything I wish I had someone like damn off the potty step mom yeah but man let's look at Dav right into this pitch. What we've what we've wasted so much time doing preamble and Shit but guys US aliens? Nineteen Ninety six James Cameron. Oh fuck actually. This is a special edition with covering decided to put that out there as everyone's contemplate. Where where are they where these saints coming from? What governs special edition? Joshua the guests kick us off with your thoughts of nine hundred sixty s aliens. Give us your Oh history. On the franchise way you came into it held you and all that shit hit me all right well. No No shocker. Here like many many. I absolutely loved this movie. I think it's on the top very near the top of a lot of people's you know Sifi favorites And this was actually the first alien franchise movie I saw. I saw this before alien and I have seen this more. I mean infinitely more more than any other movie in the franchise. I've probably seen aliens. I would guess twenty five times at least minimum over over the course of my life. I've probably seen the original alien less than a handful. Maybe three or four times in its entirety alien three once never versa resurrection permit theus once ever saw covenant. So as much as I love you know in a in a way I love the aliens world. It's really mostly for me. This movie and the original alien. which is I think if I was going to try to be objective which I very rarely tried to do you might say is perhaps a better film if I wanted to like? Think of it that way but aliens is by far my favorite It's fun it's tense. The characters are great. There's I mean I've spent the majority of my life quoting this movie especially Hudson of course the the tax himself and there's just so much here man. There's so much that this movie does well from the Gecko it. I think it is the archetype of of sci-fi action. It's both an incredible action movie in Incredible Science Fiction Movie. The characters Ripley. Her story in this is is awesome and I think the special edition. We don't have to really get into all the differences but I think adds a lot to that enhances her her story especially with that the maternal the mother daughter Arc which obviously wasn't something. I appreciate it when I saw. This is probably a twelve year old boy. But there's there's more to love every time I watch l.. Never get tired of this movie. Yeah Oh yeah did calling him in man I love near Dark. Now I I don't think it's any secret like which I said. I absolutely adore this film. This is one of the few like vh S.'s. I would still go out and buy because there's something about. I love watching this on Blu Ray. I love watching these special edition but there is something so magical about it being on VHS. I don't know you know what it is. I don't know if it's the the the lower quality of it or if it's strictly subjective nostalgia But I just absolutely adore watching it on. VHS It's fine. I'm blue I've got it on BLU ray I I really really dig it. The Blu Ray version I have is just. I didn't realize how fucking balls to the wall. It was with like the making of aliens which is like a three hour long documentary. There's like the mother version which is like as you're watching it like an interactive menu like. It's kind of like Amazon x Ray Budgets for this movie really breaks breastfeeding dude. I mean it's like if you go into all the shit it's fucking hours long. It takes forever but now this was obviously like this was my first introduction to the alien franchise I'd always known I mean it's iconic fuck. I mean you've got really Scott. Which is AH in his prime one of the best directors of all time? James Cameron who has never really seemed to have made a bad movie. I mean if you look at their track records I mean he's got a hell of a better track record than released God to be completely honest but neither one of them have just made like that movie was garbage. You might not like what release got done recently. But I think I think ends up of being more subjective than than anything do I like for me Theus no did I see Lincoln. Fuck no to me alien stops after this and I saw a little bit of the third one watched the first five minutes. It's fucking hated it. Turn it off. I was like well goodbye. I mean if anybody who scene a the third one alien three knows what happens these care. I just turned it off like I'm good. This was I but but you know it's crazy. I can't remember the first time I watched it. I just can't I don't know if it was just something if it was like a cultural kind of as most this were just you know. Get away from her you bitch and you know over man if it was just something that I knew from cultural ause Moses or if I just thought that I'd seen it all those years ago Oh but I definitely I mean in my late teens to early twenties was I just balls deep into shit like this shit like near Dark Blade runner and I love this kind of companion universe with Terminator and near Dark and Aliens. I mean this was just like 'em the prime time of of a SCI FI horror fan. Dan I it it just I. I don't think there's a better blend of science fiction action and I think a big and Josh and I were talking about this The other day a big astros that people should probably put next to these. That Alien Release Scott Alien is a is a horror sci fi film and then with with action elements. This is an action sci fi film with horror elements. I think it's important to remember that if you're if you're watching it if you want somebody who just wants You know a a beer. chugging shootin shoot 'em up by good times. You Probably Watch us. If you want to scare the fuck out. Somebody put alien and like I said I don't remember the I am. I watched it. I can remember Sigourney. Weaver was always Dana. Barrett that's that's a fervor never forever and ever amen growing up as a kid so it's interesting seeing her come into a totally different role than debut she's kind of just like a Damsel in distress in that But it's interesting seeing her and and I think we have James Cameron to thank for a lot of. I mean two of the biggest women all of Scifi Scifi who were bad ass and and I appreciate the bad assery of them because it's not a forced shoehorn progressive kind of thing. I mean this is a in the middle of the fucking eighties. He's he's he's developing in the late eighties early nineties. We got Sarah Connor Sarah Sarah Connor and Ellen Ripley and they feel so naturally art art over the course of two films and I think it's so incredible how he's able to do that I think you have to give some hats off to Ridley Scott because he said up this character Ripley Ripley but I think Cameron was the one who is able to come along and really Fleischer out. Is this complete and total bad ass. Now I've definitely got some production notes to go over as we get into it but just as my initial thoughts I mean I think this is maybe one or two things if I could wave the magic wand of my subjective taste at this film but I mean at the end of the day. I think it's damn near a perfect movie. It is the epitome of practical effects in the eighties Along with something like the thing I think it holds up just as well as something like thing. It even has a feeling of that on solid group trapped in an isolated place getting picked off by alien creature. I mean it kind of feels like that but I think that this is a minute minute itself. It is held up for years and I would be. I would try to think of the right word. I would be surprised to find another SCI FI horror our film that will pass or Scifi action horror film that could possibly top let alone rival. Something like this. I I hold this very very high regard. Yeah and it's funny. When Josh throughout his picks immediately I was like dude? Let's do fucking aliens. You know it it was just it. It felt like it's time it's time to fucking dive into this franchise and I would have been fine to do the first one but I'm equally glad to do the second one and I'm even more glad to have Josh. You're doing it with us. Oh yeah did it's funny. I either of that Shit. You said that because like when when when we when we a hundred percent chose to cover aliens on the PODCASTS I went out and I bought. I bought alien the first one because I hadn't seen in a very long time and I was like you know what I'm GonNa put myself in the Zarin for like maybe like four and a half hours back to back and that's exactly what I did last weekend. When we chose the picks and man it's just such a great had experienced to to witness but those two films back to back man the switching of the genre is brave as fuck like you know? It's just like so how do you how do you follow a already. Perfect science fiction horror film in the nineteen seventy-nine Alien. You Kinda can't right so you have to switch switch up the switch of the genre pretty much altogether and give this aliens. And that's exactly what Jim Cameron did and it was talking. I mean it speaks for itself that Yemen. It's funny that you say that you can't pinpoint the exact timeframe when you first watch this film because I can and it is nice thing. I'm telling you right now. It's it's embarrassing how racing it is on last weekend but no it was actually still working at the cinema. So it's between that little two thousand ten two thousand fifteen Switz- sweet spot and it was actually Rut before prometheus came out so it was actually two thousand twelve. That was the first time that maybe seven years ago I was eighteen years old and I. It's funny because for me theus. I still maintain that has one. The greatest trailers of all time like the marketing team really needed a cell. That pilot Shit and and man they did such a good job with that trial I watched that tailored cinemas and I was like fuck that that looks awesome and then like from there. I was like you know what I'm going to just dive into aliens. We're just GONNA go head strong into this one the into this franchise and I did and fucking fell in love with the first and second one like you said that one not that great but I mean you know still still watchable considering what they do in the first five minutes by the way all I'm GonNa say is terminated dogfight if no one's saying yet You guys have seen it but it's yeah pretty much the same ranch vicious massage motion motion. Yeah exactly should come And well it's actually funny because that was not my introduction to the the creatures like I mean I grew up with fucking alien Predator coming out like I mean as a ten year. I'm going to say that shit like I mean because it sounds great and man I mean as a kid again. I'M NOT GONNA lie. I love those movies but garbage. They are garbage and and you know if you watch them today. It's just like damn. This is fucking brutal. Oh that's a it's funny. You say it's one of the only movies as a movie Guy. I don't walk out on movies. There's only two films I've ever walked out on a VP. Requiem was the first one. Yeah I'm out that second. One director by the stress brothers is just absolutely painful. Because it's shot like economists say anything it's dot shit that yeah so anyway look aliens. I fucking love this movie and I think I agree with you. Call in this is a perfect movie let alone a perfect sequel and that that that just doesn't happen these days any day is like going. How often do you the perfect sequel right between this intimidated to fucking fury road? Even like you know it's it's tough to throw out a sequel godfather to. I'd probably put out there as well but it's like it's like it's Sir uncommon. When it happens it's just like God damn like how do you do this like Watson Array bit? Yeah this. This news antibiotic from start to finish the pacing of it. Okay so this is something I want to talk about this. Special edition is a two and a half mil it was cut down to. I believe is the theatrical to fifteen or something like that fifteen minutes or fifteen minutes show I want to forty extra minutes is. Is that right Josh. No I think it's only seventeen. Aliens is already longer than alien. It's like two fifteen. Yeah Sh To Eighteenth I thought it was somewhere around that mock and obviously the reason for that was because the studio said No. This is too long. The audiences aren't gonNA consider this two and a half hour epic and for me like I can watch along movie any day of the week as long as it has two elements as long as it's got a compelling story and the pacing isn't brutal and this movie absolutely knocked out of the path maters fucking compelling telling and the passing of this is bucket. Incredible dirt Something that I actually just this week. I'll watch musk's as the Irishman that movies three and a half hours long wrong blood never felt it. And only because it has those two elements you know like. It's compelling and write pacing this this movie. Oh yeah well. What else is that a say about? That hasn't been said by you too and other podcasts. Out there this is. It's okay what this around watching it. Everyone says it's a war movie. I I think I might disagree on. I think yes like you know. You've still got the marines. You've still got this like really A kind of metaphorical aspect of from the Vietnam War. which is all great and all but I still think that at the heart of it? This is still survival film very much like the. I just done differently differently. But he goes thinking about Josh. Go ahead. Yeah there's definitely the way. The Marines the unit in this smacks a lot of Vietnam late Vietnam and this came out in eighty six and it was written. I think he wrote it. Cameron wrote it like a few years earlier than that. So America had a a real pretty bad Vietnam war hangover and it was like that late war. Everything just socks. Everybody's demoralized and all the you know when you watch those late shitty Vietnam movies as far as you know when the situation was Shitty There's no it's not good order and discipline it's not. It's not that Mel Gibson We were soldiers once you know. Glory days it's everybody's KNAC- uniforms are all rounded up and there's no discipline so that aspect strikes me the most is like a war movie and the way they act going into it but you really that first action scene which you talk about pacing. I mean the I I guess real Bad action scene for our boys is like over an hour into the movie which which is crazy because it doesn't feel like it takes a long but that's the payoff is so great and from there it's really a slap in the face No we're not going to war we are are just barely trying to survive. So Yeah No. That's one hundred and seriously that like you mentioned that best action sequence comes about. I think it's one ten or something like that and the way this Pug 'cause episode is going to work is I'm going to the first half and Collins going to lead the second half and I'm just like Hey Colin can you you like the takeover from like the drop after the drop ship crashes because men. I barely have anything to talk about his best off. That's just like it all kicks off in the Second Act. I mean not that you know the first half is like devoid of anything. It's just like this no does yeah like the the Vietnam War stuff especially this time around watching. It definitely stuck out to me a lot more and I know I'm about to talk. In Vietnam. Water to Americans Gins. This is this is kind of like the two. I guess I guess this it is the equivalent of that anyway. I'll Yup fucking ages man. I I love this movie I watch it pretty much every year and I think I definitely watching more than the aliens only because Hora that kind of hearts may doesn't have a high rewatch ability factor actor whereas this is just kind of like boom boom guy. We're going to do this. WE'RE GONNA go from Point A. B. and we're going to rescue doing rescue Now like it's just it's crazy. It's the passing of this is just next level insane but yeah does what do you reckon we get into this bitch still it. Let's go yeah I love it. I do want to throw in just a hair for production things really quick fucking I have. I have no idea when the bring these back up again. Well at least one of us do that right right a little bit. I watched a couple of panels in the making oven. Shed But it was. It was really fucking interesting because this this whole thing. If it hadn't been for I think it was Conan the destroyer. The second Coenen Coenen I think or might have been the first one I think was the second one that Arnold Schwarzenegger got held up. They said hey you know we have we. We're doing the terminator. We're GONNA wait like nine months for Arnold determinator which is insane The fact that they would wait for him so cameron had that ready to go. It wouldn't enough time to make another movie. He starts writing the sequel aliens because he loved the first one. He has a lot of respect for that. Which is why I think this one does so? Well one of the one of the many reasons. Why but so he writes this thing? He only gets about ninety ninety pages and he's hurts working on terminator and Fox. I was listening to Gillan. Heard talk about this and she was saying box did the unthinkable and was like hey finish in writing the script and we will let you F terminator goes well. We'll let you direct it. Well I mean history. I don't think I really need to anybody. How successful terminator was so so? Obviously he got to direct it. But it's kind of insane that what happened is they. They start getting into it. He sent into according we recording rivers. I really love what you do and I I I do want a little bit more money comeback for the second one cameras like cool. Whatever I mean you're bad ass now you've been in fucking ghostbusters? You know you're doing you're you're you're a household name. Fox's Fox's like what we want you to do is to write a script in case we don't want to pay her that much and cameras. I go fuck yourself. He's like I will. There's absolutely no way we're doing this movie Gorny Weaver So they ended up paying for it and show. which is how are you gonNa make a fucking sequel about the survivor of the trauma without fuck just so ridiculous trying to think of like a sequel aliens in that way but and it's just so weird how this was filmed in England as well which I've heard it's more expensive to film in England with certain things but most of this shit with the whole colony was shot in the chemical set of that man which later on they came in and there is like all these like egg pods and body stuck to the wall and they were like what the fuck and they had they had stricken the set torn a bunch of Shit down? There was all this horrible shit like everywhere but my favorite thing that I have to take away from this is I mean my favorite part of this whole movie is Land Ricksen. I mean he's he's my favorite everything. I fucking Love Lennox. He's my probably my favorite actor. He so fucking fucking underrated But it almost made me Kinda Sad. Hearing about how he took away from Bishop was that he played bishop like a twelve year old kid and he was like Mike Bishop was extremely innocent kid and basically lenton written. I mean he just flat out said he's like I came from me semi abusive household and I never held the adult angry. Because I knew that I would outlive them. So That's how I treated bishop. When people treated him bad I said well I'm GONNA outlive you? It's like Holy Shit like that is fuck. I mean it's dark but at the same time like that dude is so fucking interesting man like listening to his like I did. There was a whole panel of Paul Reiser and and Ginette gold old scene and and and and a whole bunch of people and halfway through Atlanta. Anderson's talking about something and somebody to stop. And they're like your fucking weird dude lance like in front of everybody. You have have such the the most interesting way to look at Shit. Dated up past Casting Paul Reiser from Beverly Hills Cop because like Oh we need this guy who people are going to look at and think he's nice ice and funny and likeable because that will make that. That knife twist Stephen Moore. And what's crazy is beverly hills. COP GETS HIM ALIENS. Aliens gets him shrinks stranger things to which is why they cast him in training. Thanks to because they wanted that that kind of twist with the with the doctor that he was playing. It's so interesting seeing how one role leads to another other leads to another guy I. I'm not sure who he plays. Actor's name was Rico Ross But he was inbetween almost about to do full full metal jacket. And he's he's like one of the only black marines in this and he he was the one actually i. I'm not sure. Okay thank you. I don't have the cast of front of me. But he said that Kubrick once you for this role and he's like at this point. I mean Camden Terminator but like come on who the fuck Ariss I mean. We're talking about Cuba. Yeah and he said he was just like fuck you virk. And he's like I'm so glad I did. Because production of full metal jacket ran on for like two years. And he's like I'm so glad glad I mean in his career never really like took off took off. He's like but I would have been wrapped up in fucking full metal jacket for two years. I'm so glad I never did it. But I mean that's that's most most of the production shift that I had I know that they they looked at three thousand people in England before they really started getting through the cast of the Americans and shit which is insane The little girl all knew she was never acted in her life they just pulled her out of school and was like yeah. You know you look like the park. And that's crazy is that deleted scene when it's her and her brother that's her that's her real brother other just like cool bucket. You're you look fucking whatever we'll go for this but I mean that's pretty much like the production shy to the the production side of Shit. There's a couple of things sprinkle and when the time comes but just a little production notes at the beginning I have one more thing actually While Wilmington in in over there in England they would do like Tae. Breaks this up for tea and James Cameron is sort of like. He's a bit more of an intense director like he wants to keep things moving and obviously shutting down production cost fucking money and I saw. They're like hey guys we ain't GonNa Stop Fatih. Mike Lindell and I'm going to do this. So that was like a really weird inert like you know because British and T. and Craig daily like actually read it got it got pretty chippy like near-mutiny onset because most most of the cast doubt the Caz most of the crew had worked with Ridley Scott Alien Grin and cameras and American and they felt like really loyal to Ridley Scott is like this was his thing. And then the Brash Americans coming in and being a Dick and tell us we can take you know either teen scones so it got it got pretty nasty. I think there was like a near walk-off in some point all hell the Commonwealth. Hey all right. Let's kick the switch off. We been on an Australia's lifeblood that we saw at the end of the first film. The interiors men like these interiors here. If you like changed the title of it a little bit and like move the time back about a couple of Hundred Years Imagine Indiana Jones opening a crypt or tomb. The that's what this reminded me of like. You know what I mean like is this robot cuts Ivan. And it's just like a fucking mummified corpse inside out. I just thought cut a little bit of a parallel there but I guess I love those. got this gun in the door from from the first alien film like with a Harpoon Gun. It's like such have a nice. I think that's such a cool respectful of. Hey this is what happened in the first film cool we need to add that little gun stuck in the bottom of the door like what an attention to detail and like respect for the first film fucking love that entirely did and I mean like it's been in in real life it's been seven years right seven years. Yes seven years since the first alien. So it's like like the the painstaking data. They need to go after seven years of their chair. Like it'll be awesome. But I do like the shot. What does this guy like dust off the ice of Of the of the tank reveals a briefly as slave of the cats joins -I by IRA doubts grain. She's alive and we see this massive space station Gateway Station actually. It reminds me of the rebel late at the end of the pile. For some reason like just the way it looks like walkways and Shit but just ships gathered me a little bit of a little bit feels she wakes up and we made caught a book back like you said Collins played by Paul Raza. He works for the company. Have we okay so in the first one was was it was wailing. You Tani mentioned by name now. The company and I don't think I don't think in the entire movie they ever say Waylon time you just see the Received Gogo Oh. Yeah yeah no everything every closely it is on everything everything yeah even like. I mean like we've already seen when these guys walked in walked in insider right like they. They found US sorry back says she was in an unusually long hyper-sleep and that fucking bakes addressed Sta Johnson. I was out there. She doesn't real urging recognize the place and wage. Wave is great hair. She just cut them off. He was like how long plates turns out. She was there for fifty five fifty seven years drifting through the core systems and it was just dumb. Luck that Dave savage team founder. Yikes talking about the time job. Josh go I just I think it sets up like I kind of mentioned in the intro. One of the things that I appreciate it a lot more. You know with more recent Jason Viewings is is Ripley's arc here not just into more and more of a hero but just her her personal life and without that time jump That's what really sets it up because it completely separates are. Obviously she lost her crew. She had this horrific experience but then she had something back to daughter. And now that's gone because this time jump. Trump has nothing. You know jumping ahead. But obviously she loses her licensed like that so it sets up this this need for her to go back in. It's it's a compelling believable reason and I think without that it would be like. Why would this person who barely survived this? Ever be back in this situation voluntarily And I think the time jump in that this extreme isolation kind of HOPE BLISS STATE IT puts in makes feasible and in and sets up that Cooper for right and this is like the first Gut Punch right. Luckily we haven't even got to the door yet sir. Just imagine like waking up this hyper-sleep and being like well you know sixty years and pretty much. Everything you know is dead like it's funny actually 'cause and Josh. You're probably about a roll. Oh you're is but there's something something I love about like this like someone waking up in a different time period. That just reminded me a lot of Captain America because obviously allows me with that shit. I and just the the man out of time situation to me is just so fascinating being like having to come to terms with your past but also having to learn about your new fusion or your new present like that shit to me is just like sorry fascinating and I. I love how it happens. Opens here especially especially with Ripley's sort of relationship with Bishop Ryan. I mean like based on what she already knew about Ash. It's like a a buck I I. I'm assuming that oil androids dagger it's still that aspect of the men at a time and applies to everything from Van Winkle to captain America to fucking FRY. Hi from Futurama everywhere. When you look I I I absolutely love a character like that right exactly and it definitely lends more to a science fiction? I mean you can't really we do that with any other genre. Really be as. She starts convulsing clutching chess. Course for those over. But that was the first one we know exactly what's about to happen and notably she says kill me Goddamn Awesome effect as the chest burster pushes against his Skin York's and and she wakes up in a sweat and CUDDLES JERSEY Does cool because it's kind of like I mean if you if you are taking that Vietnam Wall analogy this is kind of like sorta like PTSD survive is sort of remorse kind of thing happening here. Yeah and it's also what's cool. Is that we all talked about in the beginning how this is more of an action movie. V Than Alien is and you don't really think about it but the transition is good even in the movie because the beginning of movies still has a lot of horror kind of feel to it From that you know that's slow. Drifting ship out their cutting in finding hurts very creepy very dark for slow building and then this scene is pretty horrific so the movie itself on its own almost transitions us from this hard to tomorrow. The action field later off a show like there's definitely like an element of dread like it starts off very doom and gloom and I mean like that element works its way through throughout the entire movie but once we get to the colonie marines. It's a bit more hopeful right. It's funny actually. Have you seen the movie halls. Yeah that's actually. That's actually my first introduction. Go Anyway is like for you. For years she's dead about the formation has always been the water book Kenya here. The empty spaces like like that shit. Oh man she sits outside or so. We think it's actually this all all graphic little what is this. I'd I like this and like I like this. This tech. She talks about this hearing once about daughter reveals. That are poss- away. The age of sixty sixty to cancer net children children she was cremated and man like burke the way Kinda like gives her all these facts it so matter of factly like he's he's trying to be empathetic but it's like well. Here's all these facts and pretty much life changing information for you but you gotta take this as I would focused on getting ready for the meeting. Not Worrying about your doctor. Yeah like Yeah Right Buck Dick. That's what I think is so interesting because if you if you think about it at first he's like hey. Let's just get to this meeting. We'll talk about that later. That could be seen as a kind of like. Hey let's not go in. Let's not go into a meeting. That is very important to your life and your career in anything beyond this with a lot of emotional baggage but really when you know his ulterior motives. This is more of a thing like. Hey let's get you in there so I can take you where I I need to take you without a whole lot of fuss. And it's like now now. He's because she goes near at this. I mean for lack of a better term a mountain this baggage she I mean she's obviously extremely Turnley upset but then now he has to strike this deal with the board and get her license back and all this other shit and it's it's interesting. It's when you know exactly what's going on. It's like man you everything thing as you watch everything he does is for his own personal gain like when you re when you think about the extent that he goes to in this film you can't I can't help it. Apply that to every single one of his judgments or one any of his actions in this and I think I mean Paul Rogers says a fucking amazing job of selling the The the wolf in sheep's clothing and he'd he'd downplays everything like we'll get to like couple of sequences leto light. Oh and you know things. That are obviously boiling applauded. And he's like oh no it's fine. Don't worry about it it's it's it's you know it's just a little this little little bit of a problem of setback Eh. It's fine I I do also say this is a huge mistake to delete this out huge mistake like most of the other stuff I can kind of live without but this is huge. I'd like this should have never been I. I mean this is not in the original like the version. I mean she's been asleep for fifty seven years. I think you can put together but this was the first time I remember really seeing the scene and I was like dude this huge. This is absolutely huge. This never should have been cut out of the original because it's so much character development for her. It's also why she get so attached. Kanoute Lemon. It's kind of a substitution for her daughter. You know she she's lost a family. She's lost a daughter. It's the puzzle pieces managed to I think it's a huge mistake. Having cut that out. No exactly and I mean like if you're talking the matic's so that movie like the rake the rake connection rather having mute as like the I guess. The the advertiser talked her daughter that she has to protect and save. That's a massive thing and the fact that she finds the fucking alien coin at the end who herself is a mother like you know. It's it's all it's all automatically baby so she says yes. She was supposed to be back in time for eleventh birthday. And I'm just like wave I fucking can love you. Mike is just fantastic. Just so endearing but at the same time she can be sorted tough say in this next saying that which is the deposition forty two million in adjusted dollars was what the trauma was worth In the suits are trying to straighten this out now. For reasons unknown we sat down down. LV FOTO six. I told you we sat down there on company orders suicide. There's no evidence of the crash She says she blew the Creator. God Damn Look and I love how snarky shares right like did did his just drop suddenly while I was away so eighties too though. Isn't it like fucking evil corporate douchebag. She'll service who are on the table like man. This is that that's so eighties. You know. Genetic Satellite Man. It's so eighties and it's actually twenty. You bring that up because like let's think about this the other way if this movie was made today considering the the movement that Hollywood is going going through right now I mean you know go power and all that shit I mean like. Hey I'm all for that Shit but like de Reckon Ripley. Would they received the same way as she as she is. If this movie was mad now do you know what I'm getting Rana. No I mean yes I know what you're getting at why I think it's I think something like alien and aliens when you look at the type of look at the trailers for the new Charlie's angels looks looks like hot liquid garbage and I wouldn't it has to do with the fact that there's women and I am not interested in a story like that I'm not interested in a story that the plot should come first and and if you want to have a message like that it's awesome but it should be natural to the story and it fills so shoehorn in it feels force was something like Charlie's angels and it's I mean. I mean if if people liked that movie I'm not taking anything away from them. Enjoy it great. That's awesome but personally I just don't think that I mean look at these characters of Sarah Connor Ellen Ripley and it's a natural progression in their characters and it's a believable progression and that's why we enjoy it and that's why we don't or maybe that's why I enjoy. Maybe that's why I don't feel like it's so tacked on. It feels very natural. Yeah I mean I grew up my you know this was one one of my favorite sci fi movies very early and this style wars. You know it's funny you know especially Laya is Carrie. Fisher's always thought of you know I think is sort of a not just the character of Prince lab pretty strong female character but also kind of a sex symbol and I think sigourney weaver objectively is very attractive woman but I saw them in a at an age. Both of them where I guess probably because my balls hadn't dropped yet and then like I was never attracted to either of them and I never really. I never really thought of them as female or not. It was just they were just bad asses because right were and it was like you said that. I don't WanNa get superintendent politics and identity politics in particular but Man Ellen Ripley is just such a great character and believable and you have the benefit of two you to movies as you do with Sarah Connor to build them up to to it but I mean. The payoff is so strong by the end of this movie when she is taking over her. She's completely running the show. After Gorman Shits himself Hicks Hicks at best is kind of backing her up and you know then her her her role in rescuing new it is so earned and it's so believable an actual final confrontation when she goes down there. It's like yeah. Yeah get some. You've earned it. You completely believe that she's capable of this by that point because of how much you you've seen the character go through. It's it's it's brilliant because is like what fades that. What aides her becoming? The the later that she is by the end of this movie is her knowledge. Pre existing knowledge of like how the aliens unction didn't like from the first one right so in that in that way like that just creates like the perfect setup for a sequel and I think James Cameron did a fantastic job running this character two. Yeah but and I think some of that call was you know sort of hitting that too is that it's not that she's a strong character. She's a strong person. They don't have to make her be able to toss around physically throw alien over her shoulder or do you know crazy things you just write a strong person and there you go l. and she's believable when she steps in and takes charge exactly if someone I think. God I'm sorry. Go ahead. Well I think the difference between exactly what you just said his Vasquez and Ripley. That's the difference. That's the difference between this woman. I mean Vasquez would kill me. And I don't know about Josh. He probably put up a fight. But I'm definitely kill. She definitely tell both of our fucking Pudgy. Asses like really quick But the versus Ripley. It's maybe it's not the physical intimidation thing but it's that it's that that presence and they they said they said she was like that on onset she was a leader she would fight for people and be like no. You cannot cut this person and would like not even a scene she is and she was very Maternal towards towards nude. And she was. They said she was a strong leader in a nurturing way towards everybody on set and it just galvanized them into believing leaving she was roughly. I love that makes me that makes me love or even more storyline but essentially the suits on listening to a ignoring the the existence of the aliens so rather Xena Xena most as we come to know them tells them about the thousands of eggs they witnessed but again not listening. They put on six months probation Russian and order her to see a shrink after deposition Ripley van Lewin to check out over two four six sorry forty six but he says there have to currently sixty to seventy families of colonists down there tariff on it engineers they set up atmosphere processes to make the breathable. I I think the final number ended up being somewhere around one hundred fifty seven people. I think she mentioned that. One point you you see the sign later on it says these appellation. One fifty eight. I think I think that's here like right here. This is the leap. Saying this is a controversial sane. I think for the special special edition only right with the kid riding a bike and shit like that. Yeah well I mean can you know. Let's let's tack this Sane and You know the first thing that we make new together like let's put them together. Is Louis this sane. Would I two separate saints. Originally originally was Newt Sane in the special I think there were both Knicks from Louisiana. The first time I'd say it's the first time I'd seen him but I I I actually think the scene with these guys me and like you know. Why do we go there? I don't know I don't ask Blah Blah that I think it should have been added because it took me a second to be like await fucking bark. It took me a second till I tie that together and now I'm like Oh fuck okay now it makes sense but maybe it's just too dumb to the scene before it's funny. You mentioned that actually because we were talking fair and I've only seen the special edition. I don't know what this movie looks like without the Special Edition Seines like I am not familiar with at all whereas Coen you'll the other way you know as the ethical early and this is kind of like obviously other additions that you familiar with. What about you josh? I've seen both probably roughly equal the number of times I think I could kind of go either way with the scene at this point I just love the movie and like everything about it so much. I'm like Yeah Gimme more. GimMe Gimme more but I think the movies actually better without it. Probably because I think the more the more you go into the Marines in the you know and Ripley in the rest of them going to the planet without seeing anything until they get there and see with their own one is. I think that adds to the build up for the audience after you've seen once then I think if I told you watch the first time Knicks this scene after that sure throat in you get a little bit of extra but I think the build ups better without it and the burke thing you're totally right calm but that does come out like at the end. You know when Ripley says I read it. I saw that So now you're already you know you're suspicious of the company anyway and I think just as extra suspicion that like oh the company sent them out there like what the fuck I think. It's better being unknown. I definitely agree with you With both of you like I think I think this saying should should not be here. Sorry cave this with Barney's talking. But maybe maybe cut out the same with Newton her family so that same Executives and Josh like I mean you kind of lose that suspense intention right. I mean like we've already this this doesn't really give us any new information or or anything like that. It's just like Oh this happened. We find this out anyway. I'll tell you what the it's it's shot fantastically I I really enjoyed this sequence In subsequent viewings viewings man like just kind of like how she's like talking to brother in them like the door opens and it's like like the the mother doesn't even say anything to the kids should barely acknowledges that even there she just like tried for the radio and starts radioing for help and new new looks over her shoulder and like lying on his back is father just with the face hugger just test to and she just screams and it just cuts hod cuts. That's I would've ripley again. I of very many newt screams organs must have worn by and I do actually have one one part. That cracks me up is in the scene before four with the dual Djibril. The little kid goes by on the trike as I is. That is that little ripley. That's all I think like. It looked like little ripley to me on a trike like running by because I saw it like randomly and some cut and I was like wait. What the fuck is that and I was like? Oh this is totally. I thought it was like a flashback of little. Never like half a second I was like what the fuck is this. Yes I think it's way out of my element any from the shining I taught in for like twins. Show Up. Yeah we also get the big giant shot of the whale in Utah. Neela guy and The slogan building. Better worlds man so back to Ripley a plea and this is this is where immediately kind of chucked into the shit because Burke and Gorman pay a visit to Ripley teller they've lost contact with a family on. Lv to forty all two six Goldman says he guarantees of safety. They want to go down there and the colonial marines are going in and at this point. I'm like okay now. I I know why Josh wants to cover. This movie. Back Wants Ripley. There is an advisor she plays the now. What's a tribe? Probably not back. Then it's the whole reluctant hero thing go but she she has some pretty fucking valid reasons for an ongoing right. Oh yeah and they have to like bribe basically bribe her into going. It's like hey if you don't want your entire life destroyed and be working at a fucking intergalactic Walmart you you better come along on this so you can get this license back and you can get the shit all cleared out. It's interesting because I think it would seem like the reluctant hero if there wasn't something being in it for her and I and I think that's why she's doing us that's not why right. I think it's up to you. Fuck you and your Ugh Fuck me right now. I think that I think is I think I think the at this. If her reasons school the major would be. These people are going to be in trouble but they're minor would be like an at the same time I do kind of get my life back on track like these people are kind of holding my life hostage and it's fucked up you know because if you look hid it from her point of view she's like I've been locked up for fucking six decades basically like what am I gonNa do. I need to go back to the thing that I've always done so I think that it. It is kind of interesting like they appeal to her morality but they also appealed to her needs at the same time. Yeah and also saying man like I think I think it speaks volumes that she still turns down even after bribe. She's like nope not doing that. mug On back. I love that Chin I think what ultimately does it is that she has nothing here. And it's it's the weekend for those nightmares. And that ultimately all she has basically is to is to go back in to destroy this thing in hopefully you know get it off of her mind like living in the shadow of this experience and you know that's another like hint of what what a bad ass she is that ultimately she's in the situation obviously there's fear of going back there as any rational person would be that went through that but she ultimately feels. Is that the best way to deal with. It is to go back there and face it. Once she makes Burke confirm that they are going there to destroy it of course. Of course. That's the next thing because Ripley Ripley wakes up in a sweat clutching a chest crying. She takes some time to think and eventually calls book book answers old sexy like with Russia. Hit I I guess he's he's like he's like he's like posturing himself up while you're GONNA make is look sleek shaved uh-huh imagine can you imagine if it's like Gorman he's like a fucking Goldman Devon I will say. I was thinking if if they remade this today. God strike anyone down. Whoever would but if they remade this day who who would I see being burke it would have to be Glenn Howard who plays tennis honest on always always person? I thought that when I was like dude he killing he would only fucking kill it. I think he's a great actor now. He's awesome he's looking great. What was he in recently? Susan Song recently come off. I'm not sure he did a TV show on Hulu for a while that was it. Wasn't that great at him in Patent Oswal on it but it it was okay so like you said Josh. She gets back to tell you one thing you're going out there to destroy them right not to study not to bring back but to wipe the Matt and because there is what and she says she's in and then we get this sequence that mirrors the opening of alien we you say the starship Salakaya for the first time weaponry on the outside the shots of the torpedo is Kobe. Basically we kind of like painting through the ship chip very very much like how pan through the trauma in the first one. The music has a soft sort of like military drumming in the background. Which is nice by the way James? Hana did the music for this movie. grinded love the score for this film. Not really the big sort of bombastic stuff but I like the most subtle stuff like especially this this brooming coming here and like later when they're walking through the cardinals with the with their pulse rifles and they did they find bucking that. I think it's like one of the fake outs and like music slowly rising. And it's great you panther Salaka. Eventually we get to the cry pods And man talk about about skipping through unnecessary bullshit. Like Ripley is already here in the cry of pod with them. Like there's no Shitty intros like. There's not like Ripley this. This is fucking sergeant. None of like I'd love it. This is the pacing that I was talking about the one of the production. Things that I read was James Cameron wanted like these live hydraulics on all of these pods to open it up. Then I don't know who for production designer. who was was like? Listen man you can do that. This is going maybe a huge fucking budget. If you ever GonNa make it much more than necessary what can we do is. We're going to set one up and we're GONNA put a mirror and he's GonNa be one pot and it's going to look like fucking in twelve. God that's fucking genius news so when it's far back it's a mirror but when they get closer in it's just like it's just rings and stuff you know that you can't see awesome that's awesome. I didn't even know that I guess they blew the hydraulic budget on the Powell. Yeah all do the fucking power. loader is a dude dude in a suit with sigourney weaver strapped to him. It's incredible like how they did should've movie like the miniatures the stuff to the the fucking. ABC He is just like A. It lugged like seven forty sevens in an airport. It's unreal machine and and they may also made miniatures than they did Remote control all staff. It's like Oh my God do production design behind this fucking topnotch off. This movie is a massive class in miniature. Work is absolutely yeah It drake wakes up and complains than paying enough paying US enough for this and I'm just like well did you can go back to fucking Andy different in the projection room. Look yeah the book and Mark Rolston love like ap immediately jamming a cigar. Smell like sleep deep with it Josh. Now you're not the mayor but I I mean I don't know if you familiar but now you are dear reckon halo go the inspiration from MM solve. This is this has to be Johnson much no way right house and present one hundred right now. This guy I mean Josh. You're I mean you're uh obviously the expert here like he he. This guy was in the Marine Corps right him and he was just like kind of acting later on in life is that he was just in the Marine Corps. He was he was in Vietnam he got two Purple Hearts. He was wounded in Action Vice. He was the first black marine to be meritoriously promoted sergeant in the field so rippin lines and it's just like Oh man I love. I love him a lot of the movie things that I really really enjoy are just these characters. These Marines as their interactions with each other as far as personalities. You know if listeners don't know I was in the. US Marine Corps a little different than the United States colonial marines the nation and besides being completely nasty undisciplined the personalities are completely spot on to you. Just the eccentric nece and vulgarity and black sense of humor that you expect a frontline combat unit and man I just I love the more them interacting with each other. When they're I get now and you know at the at the Mess Hall and the next next Seen here ah man I love it. I love all these guys everything. Everybody brings a little bit of a different piece the table but a pawn really gives it a little bit of an authentic feel for sure and he phil so genuine. When he's like this firing those lines off lighter he's brilliant But Yeah as you said we made the crew Slaley Hicks played by Michael. Behn not originally played by Michael Bane right needs to be. Yeah well actually. He's got a couple of shots I think one shot maybe couple but played by James Reema We we saw in Django unchained. We storm the warriors he also. I guess he played played Dexter Dexter. He's a he's an established doctor. Do you know why he got He got the Bird Josh. Do you know I don't want to jump in if you know this rugs. Yeah that's what I heard like. It's so funny. Because in that panel somebody broke for somebody in the audience is like hey what happened to James Remar like ooh like little sore subject dude like maybe I mean it's been fucking almost four decades but hey But they were you know they actually the guy that God Damn drawn blink. Again the guy who has said was almost in full metal jacket Rica Ricca Rico. fucking cameras name Brost thing if frost okay thank you. He said he was pissed that they fire James remark because he was like me. Ian Remorse. Got Along really well and we bonded. And he's like a man's man he's just you know kind of I don't know he's he's just a very hands on kind of dude and here comes Michael Biehn. Who looks like he could walk out of you? Know fucking like playgirl issue and he was like I just didn't like him he's like but we ended up hitting it off really well I I definitely resented the fact. They'd fire James Remar but I mean all these years later I kinda have to understand why you know Raymond Raymond kind of hardness about him to utter. If I I loved because like the way the way Bain Hicks like he's he's got this like quiet so like sympathetic even like like sarcastic nature about him like when they're looking out of the events there and they're like Kinda like the flashing and he's like how long till it blows like that Shit. That's a Raimo thing like you know. There's actually there's something interesting. I was listening to Michael Biehn. Michael Biehn was like that scene where they're looking at disconnects and new hang up on the table and he looked to James Cameron can just pick her up and put on the table he goes. That's why you are hits. Because he's like remar wouldn't have done ed right he's like he's like that's why you're Hicks. And they gave by the way they gave Michael Biehn twenty four hours to make his mind to get on the plane and come to England. Holy Shit Man. That's that's fucking nuts but isn't isn't James Remar in like the third or fourth alien and my crazy or is he n one later on my wrong might be thinking of somebody somebody else. Is it remember. I thought it was the one with like Winona Ryder. Maybe I'm wrong. Google legit yes. Oh man apparently early like they they all got to come customize Nama like that was the thing and like Michael Bane didn't because James might already customized it or like like tag it up like that was the thing but dared. Let's talk about the leg grade. Bill Paxton Hudson on Hudson. Goddamn fucking what a what a tragedy when he paused like. This Hudson is absolutely fantastic to watch the first time I saw this this. I'm going to be one hundred percent completely honest. I kind of thought he was a little annoying. I know I know but I I grew to love him. Because like if if I'm watching it in this like Vietnam Metaphor context like this. This is the character that most applies to because you going in guns blazing. You're so fucking excited for it and then you get your ass kicked and you're just like well. I'm kind of want to go home now. Do Jeep later right. And I think that's not a terrible like he is kind of annoying. He's super high energy sarcastic cassock and he's always cracking jokes and he's always trying to act like the biggest bad ass in the room and then when Shit goes bad he's the most not cowardly but definitely fully like freaking out and wanting to get out of there goes down like a champ though at the very end but ask you know. He's definitely strong personality but the movie would not the same without him of all the the non critical characters he definitely has the most flavor to it. The show. I love that you said. He's is not cowardly because if you make this character someone who's like totally inept like if you make him if you make him like deputy a fucking scream that kind of shit then you immediately all at a love of this character but like Yeah Paxton. Plays them them so well like you know. Because he's he's also proficient you know he's a he's a fucking colonial rain like he's the nicest way around gone but he's he's all what is up against as I go. No I'M GONNA pay out. They the the funny part is even even Paxton in watching this making Pacoima's like I did the I did. The everybody audition Clinton rich and had worked with Cameron twice and they made Land Henriksen audition. He was like fuck. You immediately like annoyed but Bill Paxton was like man. Yeah I went into the I did the audition. I really thought I blew it. And I thought I overreacted. It and I was like I mean I can see why I mean but that's probably what got you the role and then you've got A. Ah Rhonda the rest of the supporting cost radio. Vasquez plied budget goal saying. Hey is this This racist wondering that that was I was GONNA come up. You mean the Jewish broad playing the Latino. I think it's a little rights but I'm not GONNA lie She does she does something for me. I don't know what I've always thought Vasquez was so fucking I mean I I am. I have a preference for short here. That's just my preference but there's something like as she's fucking ripped. She has huge hits. She's a bad ass like she's awesome right and she's fucking funny. Hey Vasquez taken you for a man no have you. That's such a good line man. She gets a little over the top but I mean she's she's she's she's good. Does she do anything for you. In tone editor is she t- to Yes. She's talking now about that. She's in like lethal weapon to Yeah she's a bunch of Shit. Yeah Drag Frost Farah spunk. My in Dietrich I think the loss to the drop ship pilots spotlight Jake Check Okay Right. Yeah Pharaohs the pilot the pilot and spunk Myers a co-pilot nuts doc crew and yeah. I didn't realize into way late. That Vasquez's Giancana's mother. But let's just nip that in the bud that love love Hudson's energy God pack bright's. These marines are just so macho like I said. Attend me off a little the first time. Sort Before I realized what kind of I guess cameras going full with the Vietnam stuff. I mean if that is a thing I'm just GonNa put it out that one hundred percent whether that is a thing but I'm going to just take a wild stab and say that was the thing. Well I would say this is. It's not unrealistic but this is the hallmarks of as much as you love to watch him. This is a bad outfit like this is. This is a bad unit that everybody writes their shit over there. They have allowed personalities they talk back they talk shit all the time like they're they're us out there and they're the unit usually go and get their asses handed to them and it goes badly. Yeah and because the good units are like more silent humble professionals and get the job done run and then you know drink some beers and cheers each other afterwards but But there's not as fun to watch though is it may be man of times was that corporal has to tell Hodson to shut the fuck up in his movie like kind of like a lack of discipline thing going on as well any questions the chicken shit outfit up percents And we may your MVP call and bishop played by. Jason does the knife thing with Hudson Bush. One what. What's dude another production thing? That's bad ass is Lynch winterson. Like so I get to Heathrow Airport. And just gravelly fucking asks voice that he has but he had a friend that was in the circus. Of course you did you fucking weird ass. Yes but he was like I had a friend that was in the circus. Who gave me all of these knives to practice with? Because I know James Cameron. He's GonNa make me try every single fucking night butterfly knife fucking in every single other kind of life that there is. I get the Heathrow Airport. And they stopped me and they're like what are these four is an actor and he's like just you know I'm I just got off the fucking plane I'm hung on over I'm scruffy looking and ship. Gale Anne Hurd had to come like helped me out like in the airport because they wanted to confiscate my shed. He's like but a lot of that shit is lent now now. Obviously there's hits a point where it's sped up now it looks. It still looks incredible. Because as you're watching the sped up footage the people around them are not sped up at all. And you're like how are they doing this. Because I you hear lenten rites headlines Henriksen do your interviews. And he's I did like Bob La. I'm like yeah I mean the close up shit like I looks fantastic. He really he's like he's like I can't tell you how many stitches I had to put in my hand from fucking doing that and he's like and I did accidentally nick like Bill Paxton in the Pinky. It's because he moved blamed bill but I just I think he's just I think he's just fantastic. I mean in any of the roles. He has such a unique quality and originality to him and I just I really adore. His book is actually called not bad for human. And it's actually very hard to find. I thank you can get a used copy on Amazon for forty bucks. I found one on Ebay for eighty dollars. I think a signed copy goes for several hundred dollars like it was a limited run. There's no audio book of it. It's very hard to find so anybody in the after party. WanNa by calling a Christmas gift. I really WanNa read it. Though I fucking I'd I'd love the fucking Atlanta Ericsson curious to date. I've totally been into bogner paces while lightly so official if I can get my hands on that after after party place so liquid lakes from bishops fingers and Ripley just loses it right. She said Jump Yeah. This is one of my favorite elements of this entire movie just the way. Her distrust of androids moves over fifty seven years later. And this is an example of downplaying ride saying that on Ripley's loss mission day android functioned buck and and so apparently in the original script ash was a model and not a hybrid model. That was I caught the hyper dyne and I was like the now that you said it. I was like okay. I'm not quite Stott Housing L. C. Bishop Ratios are basically telling you that he's playing by what we know. Now as Isaac Asimov's rolls a robot expressway it's basically what he says. And then we get this briefing sane draws you in Arana's for it is this is this is your shit so so as much as you know I love this movie love everything about it I fucking hate Lieutenant Gorman very because I was a lieutenant in the Marine Corps I was on demand I had his job and there are so many movies but this is one of the most eh blatant ones which makes the fucking Yoon lieutenant just look the most incompetent moronic astle and it sucks the sticks in people's minds so much but obviously it works great for the movie and the actor does a great job and this scene is is really cool and something one little production note about it was that they is one of the last scenes they filmed because they really wanted the the marines dowd rounded feeling yeah and they ran all through some SAS dudes ran these guys through like a a two or three hundred bootcamp except for Bishop Gorman and Burke and Ran Ripley so they and and saving Prien kind of ripped that off too. Because they didn't want I want them to have they want them to be separate and Spielberg did the same thing with. He had the entire physically entire cast except Matt Damon. And go through this really grueling thing so there was kind of a little bit of resentment and outside kind of treatment of Damon winning so but yeah this is the briefings great this this part Here we Gorman starts off he brings up Ripley and You know you feel for Ripley here. 'cause she's doing what she is brought to do. You know she tries to start giving her info and you know. The Marines are just being total blowhards Vasquez. All I need to know where they a are missing the Info and you know I've never maybe you guys have dug more into the Aliens Universe because obviously it's not just all the movies but video games and Internet Shit on super deep books. I never knew like watching it. I mean he says Bug Hunt Hunt. I always went back and forth about like Fought a bunch of there's definitely. Yeah hints of Starship troopers. Have they fought a lot of aliens before or is this like a new thing like you think when he says bug hunt another bug hunt. Yes you kind of think that they're used to fighting aliens and you know they've gotten some Mark Taurean Poontang but the other time I feel like the idea of an alien creature is kind of a kind of crazy to to some people that we see the way this time around to like. I'm just like is this. Are we living in a world where uh we've already made contact with other spacings like is this the thing I can. Actually I was again. Production Shit If you look on on the side of the ship when they're kind of focusing on the cockpit and we kind of such a red logo on the side and it's like an eagle with a plasma rifle and fucking shells Kinda. It's just this very like you know like Uber Over whatever kind of thing just shooting these shells out and I can't remember what the name of the Ah What the name of the company they made it on. Jackets t-shirts or the production crew. But the slogan is we exterminate species I guess they I guess they go into these I. I'm sure they've dealt with I don't want to say I'm sure I assume they've dealt with hostile some things before I mean you however many any planet they are in galaxies. They are away from Earth. I mean at some point. The probability of hitting hostile life has to be. You know. There's gotta be something out there that they've dealt with before you're so yeah. When he says Bug Hon? I just was like okay. I guess there but again bug the fucking work is not a bug thing is a praying mantis. That thing is huge. Huge like that is not a bug that it's not a fucking a roast that you step on this thing is a predator. And and that's that's what I fucking love about it is. I think they're thinking. Oh Yeah bug haunt who. And it's like no no no no no no no no slogans always wanted frost whereas a t shirt that early scenes it says peace through superior firepower with yeah. That's exactly the kind of t-shirts units. Make themselves unofficially perfect. There's got to be like I'm sure that's being sold out of this. I'm sure Goldman so this is obviously the first time we hear the words. More Goldman says Brian. I use the word. A what essentially they get their orders after After Ripley lays down what happened to to the At what happened to Kane astles elbows run in the documents law guy we the PAL letter and action. This thing. This thing's awesome did like practice. Fuck genuinely looks like a crush your head. Oh Yeah I was just getting like fall off for power arm the whole like if you want my penis to get erect. All I need to hear his his power Lodo power the power loader robocop like fucking sound like that's all I need like multiple. My friends are like if I ever won the lottery. You get a Mech suit fucking an awesome. That's one of the few things in the life. I want a fucking Mexico. I want that that fucking Oh God the end of district nine like Oh shit like any anything like this there were there were actually companies that after seeing aliens were like. Hey where can we get those. Those aren't real special effects back This was actually an idea from NASA and James Cameron was like Oh cool. He's apparently he had a sketch pad from in high school. And Shit that he had just drone he and Cameron is responsible along with production under for a lot of this industrial industrial. kind of dirty future. Look for a lot of this up which is great. I mean defined find the opening scenes of terminator the feel for like Los Angeles. Twenty twenty nine. I mean it it. It defines a lot of these. These early T. One T.. Two and especially especially this one but just kind of industrial look and there's a lot of stuff from the Vietnam era that inspired especially like the drop ships and The armored personnel carrier. There's a lifestyle is expired Ri- yeah exactly But I think it's so interesting you know just his touches hutches in his designs worst-off you know and even something like the abyss you know. He did the best and you know he was like. Oh how can I make this liquid looking thing like oh that doesn't exist are well how can I invent it. Like the first thing he thought of. And it's like the cast in this Kind of panel. They're doing like James. She's so interesting Men Lance was like. Hey you know I'm an actor. I get this real methodical. I get kind of like emotional about James is just such a straightforward. How do I solve this problem? How do I adapt to it? You know that's why he we started getting into scuba diving with titanic and he can do anything he sets his mind to and I was like fuck you. I believe it man after seeing this Kinda Shit like he I would love to sit down and fuck and drink Kabira James Cameron hundred percent. Maybe not now. Because he'll talk about his avatar sequels. I've never seen that I've never abridging. The freedom isn't much I mean it's not. It's not only probably worth watching once but that's it I'll check it out aasiya Dude Fuck Tale. That haven't it's funny actually calling. You're just fucking rang. Some alarm bells somebody that I totally totally forgot to talk about. Neil blood camp director of District non was supposed to direct a sequel to this a long time. Actually and those actually there is concept out the of Hicks was supposed to come back and sigourney weaver. As ripples bigest comeback as well and that was before lean covenant and for some fucking reason season really Scott was like no my toys and he made a Ian Colvin instead and they cancelled neil blown film so and and his robocop woke up dude. I'm still pissed off both of those. It's like man if there's somebody this could have really been trusted to. It's it's it's kneel. I really do believe that man a. and that's that's such a shame Ripley ause if there's anything she can do suggest driving the load of course this is setting up. That is fucking start some shit here but it's like but how can raise a lot safer and big collar random. She's never held it before the set off kind of thing. Boy You talk about pacing and you know it's it's done so there's even though it's short movie it's salvo long but there's nothing is wasted like even as gearing up shit if you want to just as a gearing up scene from you know them doing the load up Ripley helping gin in the loader. It all looks cool and it's cool tech and the you know the loaders awesome in the marines runaround grabbing kit and their weapons Vasquez and drake AAC working those mini gun things them all running out the ABC L. Looks and feels bad ass especially when the music ends up coming in but it also showcases All this tech and gear. That's going to matter in and proficiency. Yeah Yeah it's it's yeah it's cool seriously. The way the way you settled settled because the way I measure a tight script is measured by diehard. Because that to me. Is that the titus script. It doesn't get got any better than that script and this this movie fucking pretty comes pretty damn close that tests in terms of like not wasting time and like not is setting up things and things like that. It's pretty much perfect thea. The Marines led up Vasquez and drake have the modified. Mg Forty Two's camera camera mounts. Like they're actually feel making gear. which is Kinda cool? How cool marines? All Santa attention moved out mood that move out absolutely bad as a love ended started weapons and strap into the inside Hudson is all jade up and pretty much about a bust his not certain draws ABC into the drop ship. And they drop. I I love how the pilot is wearing aviators as well. What I love is coming up? She's like where's the beacon I was like you can't book I can't help but I was like okay. T. One thousand much. I mean come on dude. It's it's so early. Two Thousand and cameras and cameras gonNA use that letter as well because I think Michelle all Rodriguez is character in UVA. I've yet isn't she's Apollo too so I think it's a thing. The actual image of the ship coming into the atmosphere is one of the only very very few shots. That look really dated hard when you're because a lot of this stuff is matte paintings and models and so much of it. Looks Amazing looks a lot like well-done model work and and Matte paintings can look better than state of the art C. Job to me because you're looking at real things in your eyes know the way the concept of the drop like this is so cool. This is such an awesome thing percent one hundred percent. We're in the pipe. Five by five. They found out about Goldman's lack of drop experience rather related the only combat drops in classes. This is this is like when you get to your new job. There's a lady WHO's worked there ten years and she's head cashier but they made some Ed College General Manager Man. Hudson does his little confidence. Dan State of the bad ass arc and basically he's saying everything except for. Let me show you how big our dicks are like. That's literally what's a good knife sharp sticks. That's so good. I'd love that ends with that. You know what else I love. I love that Hicks Asleep that that says a lot. Overconfidence in his own way. Like this literally just like routine for him he's basically like him the opposite of Gorman. WHO's like palms a sweating? You know midst great. Somebody will take up Hicks drops it takes them over in the main complex. Visible activity shot his assailed. Nothing on Ripley night so they still have power third Josh. You mentioned that that's quick. Shot of like the the The drop ship entering the atmosphere. One of my favorite shots is right here. It's the ABC in the foreground and like in the ship. Just peeling off. That is good. Sorry let me just get this. ABC being one of the most impractical military vehicles. I've ever seen do that thing. We'll get stuck on a speed bump you're sending into an alien world inch ground clearance. It's like the worst mobile ever. We get through a firecracker under it and fucking disable against golden giving. Okay Josh. This is a question for you is Goeman giving orders to move up and shit. Where'd I doing this? Like Super Super Super Weird someone in the field yet oddly oppression in some ways because there's as technology gets better and better and the possibilities of doing in this kind of Shit becomes morality. There's there's always a temptation for higher ups to fuck and it's a good idea and it never ever ever is. That is the worst aspect of leadership is to fucking sit in the back not putting yourself in a danger not having situation awareness thinking you do because you're watching and cameras and shit and trying to give orders but I mean there are like things like there were times you know I've been in situations where you know. Oh somebody on a higher up in engagement calls in and like some colonel wants to use his fucking new toys so like we were in a firefight got ordered to like hold and lockdown in this area because some Dude WanNA justify his job and fire these Excalibur rounds which one hundred thousand dollars a pop you know and we just have to like sit there and wait for somebody to do their fucking thing because they all they have us on the tracker and they're going to see this and that so yeah it's it's a terrible idea idea but it is not wildly unrealistic. OKAY UNDER GRANDMA PAJAMAS. With a case. Good they crack. Open the doors and walk into the damaged Hollway This is where the visuals may just pop man like this. It's just so Irie as the water drops in them for above like there's no music take and it's just like the sound of footsteps like you're immediately kind of plunged into this and you're just like fuck anything could happen at any Goddamn Tom Tilson. We've got some exclusive damage. Probably seismic charges has done Hicks and Hudson breakout the mush track. which now absolutely iconic? I love the sound of those things. So fucking good. There is a couple of games that utilize them pretty well alien. I selection is one and the other one. I think it's colonial marine marine's which is pretty dog shit but yeah and you mentioned the the look of it and I'm not saying it was the first movie that did this but it was the first one I watched you know I saw this like pretty young. But I'd seen a lot of sci-fi this is the first one that was so dirty and grungy and lived in and like this is like A. This looks like a factory like mind. Facility is not what you you know what I was used to for science fiction and then you know you fuck it up more with battle damage and it's even nastier and so awesome now. It's it's fantastic and a set design in. This movie is kind of unparalleled lucky. You know you've got this pot then like even lighter when they get down to to the columnists like that that kind of like the tunnels man Shit is insane. Hudson picks up something on his radar. Trackers want's I'M GONNA call it tracker actually out of my what the fuck something on his track. Track thoughts omitting the hawkish noises. Turns out to be just Gerbil back out Ripley. Tails Hicks to pen right. They say the metal groups that have melted through signaling. ACID blood goes down a few stories and Hudson hacks up a NAS ludi beautiful and that that that should immediately. You're just like well. We know what's what happened today. Basically right we know that. There's bane a scuffle awful. And it's not it's not. The colonists have like you know done some infighting or something like that. We know for sure one hundred percent of that we have been here like. That's all and I love when they when he starts Neil it over and they come out Goldman says era secure but riddle ripley protests. I mean obviously. It's not secure is coming in. I feel safe already. That's Great Ripley in the squad and to the MED ED lab. They come across the states as cheap. So this point book is bursting at the painter's tape gets up close to one of the troops and not Oslo jump scare tour alive rested dead. They killed off one of the colonists trying to take it off. Jesus Christ and then boom process motion sensor spikes up squad heads toward the toward the with drug-taking points tense moment and I love how James Cameron kind of draws in with the sound of the blips learn and then bang like a shot just moves in the foreground and we made new again. He's hiding out in the crawlspace ripley orders. The squad not to let a guy and so begins the. The mother daughter element of this film Ripley finds a photo of near and we find her name. Rebecca Jordan Yeah I this is where we go back to that we know. We're those couple scenes those look ins we saw on. Lv Four to six earlier with a necessary more now. Because I'm like well what's what's the benefit you see what the place looks like before. It's all banged up. You kind of get a sense for why they were going out on whose orders they were going out there. We get to see neuner family before. But it's better if you don't see where it's like before and you have to find out along with the characters you know what news like because you see the picture and you can imagine what a normal girl. It's like an it's not like this and then the the other thing is better when you find out way later that burke was the one that's sent the order so it definitely works love better and actually when you when you fire up the nine hundred ninety special edition you've got that little inset from James Cameron is like this is how the film was intended to be seen and I'm just like well I mean come on you know George Lucas You fucking baby to Indika Turkey neck in the control room. Goldman tried to get near to talk She's just staring off into space belly. Blinking man is a Carey Han Carryanne. He's fucking great especially in this moment like she's just she's The she's just like a stature like you can tell she saint some shit like imagine what sane turned tastic especially for a child child actor which is very hard to get what you want across and then be at the same time no experience what not commercials no plays no anything nothing and she was like I literally she fell if she wanted to Chris. You probably could have had one. Just didn't WanNa do it now. Just did this one thing out. And it's like you the definition of falling ass backwards backwards into something special but Ripley saw good with a here. Oh I made a clean spot here now. I've done it. Guess I'll have to do the whole thing. Like the relationship is like instantly endearing and that is important like right. I mean if you aren't establish the relationship between Ripley and newt immediately then you economy have no connection or sympathy when she feels in to rescue a letter. My Name's Newt. Nobody calls me Rebecca except my brother. She she says families dead. Ripley's shows that she's safe. The soldiers here. It won't make any difference. Does she have a widow and she looked Canadian assumption. I read about one British parent one. That'll do they work. They were casting in England and shelled. Yeah there's a quick sane here of Bishop examining one of the face huggers very quick sane. But it's like it's Super Fil biting considering what we already know about Ash yes. He's like fascinated with it and it's like Oh. Is this going to go the way of crash. What what's what's really funny is that there's A? There's a very interesting parallel. Between Roy Batty from blade runner and Bishop And blender named it said that he was like listen. Man We had you know how nine thousand we had. You know we had fucking Roy Batty and we had we had plenty of android type characters before for this and I really wanted to do something. That was my own Roy. Batty showed up on the set of blade runner. You know had this crazy outfit on the sunglasses dyed his hair and released. I was like what the fuck might get out of that Shit Linton rich and shows up on set with these contacts and there were double pupils. So it's like a figure eight of like black puget solid solid. Black Cameron was like dude. Do Scarier than the fucking Damore take that shit and Lynch Henriksen. I spent my last fifteen hundred bucks on these contacts while I was like well. Why the fuck did you do that? I didn't tell you to do it like caring very direct about like I don't care what you do with your character believed the physical appearance up to me and lantern rhythms like. Yeah it was really hard for me to let go of that. It's it's so interesting hearing about she'll just shit that he thought would be cool and walk in and and bring the character and camera now not at all not. I don't know what you're thinking. That's fucking funny man by the way. I adhere sorry about US arrests in Pace Roca. Hell Yeah Dude for sure but a lot of people have said that Cameron is notoriously difficult to work with onset of that and again this panel was like. He's not difficult to work with. If you he is you know. He's a directors director. He gets in there. He knows what he wants. He's laser focused and he's not one of these people that everyone on the panel was like I would rather have someone who's a little rough around the edges like james than someone who spa whose soft spoken and knows what they won't knows what they want but is afraid to say it because of my feelings one time and money and careers or online and it was like. Yeah I I mean he he gets shit done looking at twice made I mean some of the best films of all time and I think I can handle something a little rough around the edges if the end result is something that's groundbreaking breaking you know for sure it's great. Yeah like you definitely hear about these directors who are dialed in Kubrick director. You know a Hudson says has he's found a columnist why the personal trek is that were implanted inside them under the cooling tower and the squad hoods over in the IPC. I love the little detail of the Canon retracting don baby say as they go inside. It's great and this leads into our first major action sequence. The squad discovered the way interior of the structure. It's like this massive organic tunnel like they walking. It's cool because it's like they walk inside like a giant artery like you know it's like a massive Dane said design is incredible and he wasn't involved Giger. HR young artist. He wasn't directly involved in aliens but obviously his original old direction and artistic inspiration for alien I mean it is the most iconic like not just the aliens themselves but kind of look around everything about them like this weird organic yet alien kind of Vibe to everything like how everything takeover they sort of. You know. It's it's like it spreads they're they're like a physical manifestation as they as they occupy these areas this man. It's so it wouldn't be. It wouldn't have the feel if it didn't have that look now for sure and it's not it's not just as off so you get a taste of like Gigi as sort of like artistic style in the first one like with the space jockey and the the other the other alien rights that we have no idea about. And I'm still saying that we still have no idea about him. Even though he's Got Information Alien Covenant Because I refuse to acknowledge this but yeah like the designs a fantastic fantastic and the really unique could immediately pick out okay. That's the show. I love what Josh brought up of the almost like the assimilation of this thing thing like I don't know there's something about Geiger when I look at Geiger our work. It reminds me of like a tool video. There's something about this that vary I. I don't know it's it's it makes me it's cool looking but at the same time it makes me uncomfortable and I'm not sure why and I can never quite hundred percent put my finger on it because it's natural and unnatural. It's organic but it's also artificial and it's kind of this seamless blend between the two. That's like I can't quite wrap my head around it. And that's that's what jocks that I think is just perfect. That's exactly I'm like yes. What the fuck is this? You know for sure Ripley. Goldman pulse rivals fire. Ten million Medicare slips if they file. There's a chance of rupture the reactor doc causing a thermonuclear explosion. Love Goldman's response. How great wonderful Shit collect? Everyone's magazines is what the hell are. We supposed to use man harsh language and no grenades of course and of course Vasquez and drake have extra magazines because look at what the fuck day carrying. Around of course Electra mags Hicks pulls out a shotgun. I like to keep this handy. Lessen Canada's comes across the first colonists encased in resonance lime looks like a Ghost Buchan same and deliver them just great they come across an open egg in dead face hugger not good and I love how I slowly slowly ratcheting up the tension here. One of the calmness alive. Please kill me. The Marines gotTA help before chest explodes blood's revealing a little little babies animals and Apron just fucking barbecues third love it give it a landlord. The fucking sweep is over like now like what are you possibly continuing for these around the corner. There's like twelve twelve colonists sitting in a circle singing like dude we know can turn around and take our complete lack of ammo. The Fuck Outta here sure. Let's leave all that have. Yeah I mean like if you will confiscating have nothing I I mean especially half a second after that when the wall start to move after you and you're like Oh what do that is such an amazing knocked to jump too far ahead. I mean we're down in here like once once I I'm for I don't know what the fuck for life me. I can't tell you what her name is. Data that shot of her as Detroit okay. What she's turned around? I mean just seeing them come out of those little spaces insane enough but it was such a shock to me even now watching this last night I was like whoa offense uh-huh and it's so like I and I and I wonder if we're like Rambo first blood part to like maybe I don't know which one came out first but it reminds me Rambo just those is opening in the mud wall and fucking kill and that guy it and that that's what's so holy Shit. It is so terrifying. There's something to be that close in so lethal like Holy Shit. It's fantastic dude. It's beautiful and especially because the the lighting that James Cameron uses here is fantastic aspect to this show by anyone else like this could be like a super doc. Seen I mean look at fucking alias Predator requiem like you can barely make out anything anything in film I did and the Orleans coming out of the walls like they do not only is it scary shit but it ties in with the whole like part of it and it was just kind of hive. Mind sort of thing that will get to sorta understand. Yeah yeah eventually. Eventually none of that. I love the build up to a rod because Hudson Hudson stratifies up and he starts to get signals from ahead and behind and like uh-huh shit these guys are about to get awful towered h yeah pretty much marines ends up in fire in Ohio. All Hell breaks loose. It's all it's too much for Goeman own. It'll laid down. Suppressing fire incident. Right is talk to me April. The look on his face when when Vasquez and drake opened fire. He's like who the hell fire like. Who would who in this situation? I would dare disobey me like a nuclear reactor dude. I'm dead either way. I just gotTA start opening fire. I can swim on the sweat on his face. It's like a fucking fray style Well in a huge thing I love about. This scene is the fact that we get the. I like little bit of it. We see the you know a pumpkins taken out of these people. Take now Bob La what have you. But then everything else is from like their body cams. It's like what the the the chaos is so palpable. What the fuck is going on? I can't see it and I'm not even in it in the movie and it's like what the fuck is going on in this whole scene and it's almost like it's almost most frustrating. I feel like walking Phoenix and signed when he's trying to watch the video I'm trying I feel like I'm watching that scene because it's but I it makes me nervous. I'm nervous as Faulk as to. What the Hell is going on? And it's got it's just shows you how well that that chaos just stands up like. I'm I'm concerned about these people. I WanNa you know what's happening but it's like the chaos of it is just want to skip something that you've mentioned just really quickly ape aren't going ape. Earn is one of the I wants to go. You'll sergeant someone who you know in a traditional action movie expect to survive until the end gets fucking killed immediately. That's fucking awesome at this point. You're like okay. All bets are off the table like like this is not. This is not one of those predictable movies but yeah love. That is the true through APSO. Turning point is is a few of them. Get taken out before a poem. But it's when airport goes down Vasquez and drake just are going crazy I August right before that but when Abe goes down at you completely go to what you're talking to call him. which is the complete lack of situation awareness in the chaos and and Gorman's panic slipping even further and further and just the anxiety as an audience member of watching it? And that's awesome. That is awesome because that fuels fuels the fire of what we want to get behind right behind which is Ripley stepping into this absolute in pulling something out out of it for show like he did that first. Few minutes of confusion and chaos and then Ripley just takes action. She gets behind the wheel of the say and heads over to assist. Assist in fucking Goldman is being pace. Shit that's an order like ordering fucking stopped the thing like heat addict book Goldman Birth. Burke actually says you had your chance Goeman like how do you reckon that plays into his endgame here. It actually does Brian because well it kind of dozen. Because he needs Ripley today I think is actually just a completely human moment from Burke of. He's not a leader but he's like okay like Ripley's please taking charge heat his survivals at stake too. And he's like gourmet. You had your chance like I get. Let's let Ripley. Do whatever the fuck she's doing right now. It's the one moment that book has has that completely kind of threw me and this time I was like white. How does that satisfy his endgame? The reins the VAC Vasquez in drake lay down fire. And I I right here. This is something that I didn't realize until this viewing there is a lot of acid loud bang spread around like yes. There's a lot you you know obviously from semester blood and I'm just like wow. This is different. Ah like one of these gyms its head in the door and Hicks his head off but this Chelsea shock on and I'm just like hey lot acid blood it's great because it's a fact that could be so easily glossed over but it's their attention to detail the respect for I think the original thing of film and and not only that it helps you along along the way of like. Hey maybe we need. We need to eliminate some characters. I mean you've got Vasquez shooting the thing which ultimately ends up getting drake killed and they shoot this thing in an ended up injuring Hudson Hudson and then later on in the elevator we see Hicks getting injured. And it's like yeah even when you're annihilating them it's like a kamikaze it's like they are still lethal even even in the destruction of them but I also WanNa go pass when she's driving down the hallways and the she's fighting with him. That's a miniature amazing. That's fucking amazing using. I never would have known that. Otherwise Come Causey. We've already made like Vietnam. War references done bring World War Two into this year. I'm GonNa talk about in the back of the ABC Shitty Goeman gets knocked unconscious by falling debris. Okay Ripley bus out of the complex into the and and she's blaming the transaction axel but she keeps going until she's told by Hick stays down and I love that because she's so determined to get them away as far as possible so begins the downfall of Hudson. Get away from me. Man You can. You can like pinpoint the way. His confidence is broken. He notices that such and Dietrich on dead and Vasquez WanNa go back but Ripley. Says they can't help them they're being cocooned right right now. That's an wants to bug out. But Ripley lies down. One of my favorite lines. In the entire franchise probably in the cinema. I use it on a daily basis. Actually I say we take off and nuke the entire side for morbid. It's the only way to be show. I say that every time I listen to the news Dude seriously like every time I hate something like I actually refer. I'd say that all the time whenever I hear the cod actions I'm just like say we take off and just news superbowl burke POPs up in defense of property damage. They can build me love. Burke says he can't authorize authorize that kind of action but Ripley says this operation is on the Military Jurisdiction. Corporal Hicks has the last word Hicks. Yeah his his reaction to that Ramazi. John MacLean is fine one also also like burke because not only does. Burt hit up the whole. You can't destroy a billion dollar and salacious but he's also like I don't think you are. He's trying to play that morale like I don't think you are. I have the right to do that. Dude like yeah go fuck yourself man you want to go out there and catch one go for. I'm not stopping Hicks. Drop ship immediately immediately and he agrees with Ripley. We spoke by enter entering. The drop ship catches his hands on some ges before the drop ship takes off Paul Calls for spot mile but turns out too great a zine in the cockpit boom blood all over the interior amazing crash sequence with fantastic miniature data elder l.. Dude love this. Yeah fantastic and then we got Paxton whereas some real pretty shit now man came over man. It may be something for you James. Great just fuck fuck. Are we supposed to do the real. I finished that game over the the Chelsea the test and I love even like it's so real even like Steven. Yeah Stephen King Son Son on twitter he he he came on. I have to say probably my favorite horror line has to be over man games. So fucking cold. IMPLE- says we're probably not going to be leaving now. Hey she's real to chill about. We're not going to be leaving our waste. He's I feel like there's a part of that's kind of like accepted the fact that she's going to die soon like I get that. Yeah and they better get back because it'll be dachshund and they mostly come at nut mostly clear that finishes the first half of aliens and now I have to avoid my blood so we're gonNA take take a quick break us up. Good Man I'm GonNa go piss for like ten minutes guys. We'll we'll be back with more. Aliens brought up his break. Good morning afternoon and evening. Wherever the hell you are? Thanks so much for listening listening to this episode guys just while we take a quick break here I am going to plug some shit snow. It's not advertising. It's nothing paid. It's basically just kind of self master Tori stuff. Basically follow us. Alana's we have two pages on facebook called Manado facial. Obviously we have our main group which is called the after party audie which is fantastic. Our community to engage that and we that style main way to communicate with an audience plays full of the body. 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Still we're GONNA crack crack into this because we are freshly squeezed as we like to say So yeah or just kind of dropping right back in here. The drop ship has been destroyed. We're heading back into into a LV four to six. All Hope is lost. Everyone's dead went dogs and cats slipping sleeping with each other. All Hope is lost but I mean this is really where their back's kind of get against the wall and it's interesting because what I like about this is even though this is just an. It's like man. This is a lot of conflict. It's just there's another elemental a mental thing. Just around the corner and I love that. We'll get to do it but it's just we're not quite done feeding these people to the to the fucking balls yet but with the drop ship have destroyed most of their people dead there survivor back to. Lv Four to six as it begins to turn Dr. They take inventory of their weapons. Plasma rifles grenades aflame to over four centuries dons ends and yes seventeen days. Seventeen days is how long it'll fuck intake for someone to find out that they're not to Jesus seventeen hours. You're as mad when I love Ripley. She's like this. Little girl lasted longer than that. She didn't even have any gone so yeah because she's yes she's digging these like fucking tunnels like was he put me. I love. I love how she's like. She's helmet on and she does this alluded the I totally blew past it but when they wreck the I think it's when they get I can't remember what park but it's where she. She seated behind Ripley and they're in the they're the the ABC as they as partial looks over. She knew she's like you are eight. New just gives her the thumbs up like I love that Dude Lou US little touch so well without any dialogue. Well it's just great. They take inventory of these weapons d century under fucking awesome man. I love this what I what I really love about this. The whole kind of. We're going on lockdown. We're getting ready for this. I'm a huge call of duty. Like the Zometa. Yeah well I'm a huge call of duty like does Ambi- shit and I love that. Hord kind of thing. I'm a huge fan of the original one black offs and I play the remastered one black off streep specifically the map ABC. Keynote Odin Dude. I fucking I wouldn't off on that fucking round man those windows bordered. Oh windows border with it. It feels like the rag on this always get the Dingo. It's like this huge fucking amazing. This the movie reminds me of some. You were talking about earlier. Zohab is you know is more of a war movie or survival movie. And it's really both and to a quote Great Matthew Anderson one of his favorite words movies really bifurcated right here. The whole thing really leading up to now has a a lot. Even though there's a lot of dread intention and elements of horror it has kind of that war movie feel because if especially thinking about as an audience of okay you saw alien and now now. You're seeing aliens now instead of a crew of a civilian ship with improvised weapons. You have this squad ultimate bath and they have this amazing meaning assortment of firepower and drop shifts. ABC and they're rolling in and then boom one engagement. They lose like two thirds of their guys the drop ship the ABC ABC almost all their weapons and here. They are back's against the wall. Looking at their limited assets left and now it's survival and the odds have love so immediately shifted against their favor and you know completely changed the feel of the movie the whole conflict from here on out. And that's that's pretty much one hundred percent due to the fact that there were just two iva confident when they went down there. They're like well. You know what we fucking Shit like Dr Sorry about it. Don't remember these fucking xenos that this crazy lady survive this this explosion on mothership talking about like they're just like hi. This is business as usual right. And then they completely underestimate the the power of these creatures and like hell viciously salie ferociously they attack and then like once that once the ones that conflict desire like Oh fuck we totally underestimated these also. Yeah I love Nats and our I'm sorry love Joshua's impression of Matt Saint Bifurcated. I've a pretty good team have a pretty good impression. It's just laments that's my impression. You didn't hear that little dig on Leon to professional digit Dino fucking love you guys and so I mean. Yeah and it's it's I've heard a lot of Kind of symbolism turnaround for the Vietnam War they went in and it was this This this high tech you would think that these people are Kinda out on top but it was these it was it was totally the opposite. And that's one thing that I think is so interesting about this and I didn't catch until many years years later and had to have that. Explain to me Oh fuck yeah. I didn't even think about that and The symbolism between I mean. You've got Ripley. She loses her child. You've got newt. Who Loses her mother? And then you've got for all intents and purposes I mean if you look at the alien monster if you look at this anymore. It is doing what it is made to do it. It knows nothing else it is not you know what I mean. Like the intent behind it. They don't they're not like oh I'm doing this to be militias. This is how we reproduce. This is how we do things. There is not a malicious like the Predator hunts. And that's it's like a more sophisticated. I'm doing this for leisure there. There's a there's an objective whereas whereas this is just like this is where we're perfect organism and we're going to pretty much do what we will do pretty much kill whatever moves and that's why I love it. It's kind of just it just ends up being that these are just two separate species doing what they're trying to survive and end up just being being at odds with each other and I love that. It's not personal and I fucking. I didn't even really catch that until I'm watching this. I'm like they're just doing what they were literally made to do. And you can kind of flight. I don't sympathize with fucking annihilate them for sure but You know a fire and does what it's supposed to do but fucking I'm gonNA kill it or a wasp wasp but I I love that about it is that you can kind of when you see things from from Ripley's you like you're taking this kid away from me. I've already had these taken away from me. You can kind of look at it from the Queen's perspective as well of like while you're doing the same to me it's just this is just what I do. It's really interesting. It's not subtle little Brunson. Oh yeah they all go out. I'm like I'm maury show like seventeen days. That's how long they said it will well For Rescue Team to get to them. I liked the scene with With nude whereas you know she goes and she she kind of hides in the in the or not I chino. Yeah she goes on she. She sets her down in the bed and shed and she talks about like monsters. I like this. She's like you know we didn't think that monsters were real. She's like Oh. Why did they tell kids that? That's like 'cause I mean. They didn't know they had fucking no idea that they existed. Bowen before this they also get like the whole schematics thing for totally skipped over that Yeah they're patching up the air vents sealing up the tunnels. They're fucking. They're prepping man. They're getting ready for war. And this is not one hundred percent necessary the scene but newt but we do kind of need a breeder. We need something to you know even though this is total chaos. Everything's going to shit. We need some kind of moment again and to remind us that Ripley is like why you know she could give a fuck about you. Know honestly like Hicks or Hudson or especially burke but I mean this kid nude dude is like the objective and we know why. It's great to see her. We know she's a mother but we haven't seen her mother and need some of those those moments and like you said it's the honesty she has with knew about you know she's not just lying to the kid to make her feel safe. You know there's there's a level of honesty there and we see see that just in a couple of scenes you know that Ripley was a good mother and that's all it takes right. Yeah and nude is around this. I mean she's nine or ten. You know so Ripley's Ottawa's eleven like man. This is kind of picking up right where the other one left off. It's crazy Well they sit around. They talk about the possibility. Have there ever being like a hive controlled kind of environment with a Queen and Bishop fucking drops about I love the Odyssey in the NAIEVTY and I I don't know of of him. He literally seems like a twelve year. Old Kid of just like Mister Bishop gave sorry. Mr Berg gave me a very specific instructions. These were not to be destroyed. It's like yeah maybe a normal person. Just drop that on everybody but I mean he's just like not even even before that like it's it's it's fascinating that's Hudson who brings up the idea of the quainton like out of all out of all all of the people there. It's the one bucket afraid and like so confused and I guess you know. His mind is just a mass. He's the one who brings up the idea of like this. Got To be something at the top of this right like this. He compares it to ants or is it. Yeah he's like Vasquez's like there's a base right. I love that. She's she's like she's like these aren't stupid. I know that. That's right. Inner Yeah he very specific instructions. We're not to destroy these your system bring them back. Ah Yada Yada. And she confronts him about it. I fucking love that and I love Burke's like you know if you come if we do this. There's a lot of money to made will be set up for life it's like it's just the shameless like I. You said we weren't gonNA capture these now. That's a lie now. I know that you sent these people to this destination. Nation based off my testimony strike to strike three. Now you're trying to make me complicit in smuggling these things through you know fucking inspection immigration or whatever it is you know this this kind of the inspection check point And she says you sent them out there. You didn't even warn them. Why didn't you warn them? He's like okay. Look what if. What if that ship didn't even exist? Did you ever think about that. I didn't know so if I went and made a major security situation out of it. Everybody steps in administration steps in and there's no exclusive rights for anybody. Wow that's your justification. Well then it was a bad call Ripley it was a bad call really like a bad call is like I don't know something you say in football game visit. This is a referee making a fucking wrong decision. Not something that directly impacts one hundred and fifty seven and I mean I I liked the though. How Ripley Ratchet this up? She's like you know a you are responsible. I'm responsible for these people's death and I will make sure that everyone knows about this especially when we get into inspection and but even still burping like Ripley. I really thought this was just something better of you. And it's like this sounds like the manager I had at the restaurant I worked at for five years and I've worked forty five hours that we can even like eighty. Do you mind staying late and we got something going on. Okay man cool and all of a sudden. I'm working night shifts all next week. Because he fucking asshole. That's what that reminds me. I'll authorizer is definitely underrated in this movie. I think yeah and I think a lot of it's just because you fucking hate his character so much but it's because he's I think he's really good at playing burke because he's trying to you know at the same time he's like. I'm not a again. Do I think he's a bad guy like no I. I like deep down deep down. Not like does he want these people that is he like he villain of the of the the truest like kind of nature. No not really. But that's what I think is so interesting about his character is like did he really want one hundred and fifty people that I know was he willing to exploit their her fault was he willing to put their lives on the line to exploit efforts on gain. Yeah sure but it's like it's it's interesting about him because I don't really think he wants one hundred and fifty people to die but at the same time it's it's the risk in running with the dice and the fact that you're willing to roll the dice on. That is what makes hugh bad person whether or not you want them to die. The fact that you roll the dice is the problem. And it's like God damn dude especially later on when they confront him with with Newt but in all my God the way Newt looks at him. I'm GONNA eat your eyes like I fucking love. The way she stares them later on but yeah he's a fucking bastard but I just guys let's just look at this from berks perspective. What I'm saying? Give me like a Hitless. Listen not all of them. Were good people So is Ripley's leaving this kind of thing with this kind of confrontation burke. This alarm gets triggered the century guns. They go to fucking town of this. Oh they go to town on the more fucking love it man. This is this not in the theatrical. Actually not that I don't okay I always say I have no idea all these smart unseens. Aren't aww that sucks. Because I can't imagine maybe without it every time every time someone says aliens. I'm just like yeah. I'll consensual gone sane. You know what I mean. And it's not even like it's one of those situations where it's kind of like Miller because like I have some kind of weird memory of like days these guns just tartly mowing down like multiple aliens and that shot doesn't come like it never happens and I guess that works and it's fiber especially these first two guns that run dry like a works in his five of that year he lets you imagine. Imagine the situation. That's happening that hallway. You don't get any shots of like aliens. Liens being mowed down. Because you don't he he doesn't want to tell you how many there is just like you know what the audience can decide and it's probably a shit load to put you there. It was it was the characters. They're they're watching thing at first they're probably thinking like fuck gathered smoking them and then as the keeps dropping and dropping and dropping and and then they run dry like oh my God. How many are there? They're the right of fire. These guns inside the numbers drops when I love. It's kind of like what what you guys were talking about with these deleted scenes of what we don't see is actually more interesting than what we do. See and then. Don't be wrong. We to shot of that hallway of just getting ripped to shreds okay Yeah that's cool but it's just the fact that we don't see it as like it's you know you you let your mind filling those gaps in reality. There was and I wonder if it will if it was strictly strictly a logistics logistics problem because they had six suits that's it that is all the more suits that they add six suits and the queen puppet Elliott. Dan Do uh and they said there is one the one that you you you do kind of see it a couple of times getting shot and blown up they cut to the same shot maybe two or three times which is not a nit-pick. It's I mean you just Kinda the notice it but it's the same one that gets run over. It's the same. Unlike any time. They needed to destroy one. They would just assure this thing. Patch it back up and put it right back together like this. This is Michael. Consider the budget right like the budget for this really. Isn't that big seventeen to eighteen million dollars like show. That's nineteen ninety-six money but for me if you like this but this massive explosions and like constant gunfire like an massive sets. That's that's not that much no I actually I I I'm kind of. I looked it up on an inflation calculator. It's less than fifty million dollars by today. Like Wia Wild West one hundred eighty million dollars. Aw that's crazy to think about man like what you can do and they said. That was cameron. Cameron would stretch the budget like so thin and Deuce. And that's you know Kinda like doing the mirror effect on the on the crowd pods and doing shit like that. It wasn't just him but he you know for all even with bumping heads with a British crew and stuff they they managed managed to stretch that budget puck and even though they probably could have asked for more and gotten in. They did the best with what they had. And it really shows So yeah these salons they go to town they fucking unload now is do the emotions stop right there. Or is that the point where they are kinda crawling all over them they can hear them like crawling around I. I think it's the second set of century guns whereas in a war so like all right we gotta stop because we these things are just annihilate us. They kind of kind of adapt. And I. I like this right here because once the gun stopped they can hear them like crawling than it's like dude. Just the Claustrophobia of that of nowhere. You're at a safe is so fucking terrifying man and then again even if you get in proximity or you shoot one. They're still the risk of the acid fucking just destroying you like Holy Shit. It's you're fucked if you do and you're fucked if you don't on but in a stroke of bad to worse bishop performs in the due to the damage in nuclear reactor at a stop venting properly and will explode explode in four hours. Oh that's great great. They're just like it's a beautiful shot to. I love the way that looks out there. In the distance that huge in in all this darkness this big flash of light. It's and it's it's very pretty looking kind of thing. I really really dig. That shot They discussed possibly calling the second drop ship. That also create problems with the transmitter being destroyed in the crash They determined the only choices for someone to go all the way. Out to the Uplink Tower and remote pilot the second drop ship down to them and I and I think this is an important moment because bishop volunteers. This is even though he has done nothing wrong. He is is up Shits Creek without a paddle on Ripley's and I I mean again due to no fault of his own but just because I mean she has prejudice towards the synthetic person and And I think this is great because a like you said he's the only one that can remote piloted anyways but it's it's his turn at some kind of even though it's he didn't really do anything at some chance to prove himself because he's agency right and we need. I mean it's great because he's the pilot he's kind of like the medic and shit later on we see him like doing surgery on the face hugger and now he's the guy doing this like he is a extremely resourceful character and I really dig that I want one of the things that I I love about. This scene is when he's like yeah. Yeah Mad Lib Ish go he can do is no problem letting cooking and I do you think yeah bishops let them go is a synthetic fuck it. He's not a real human I love. He's like I might be synthetic but I'm not stupid like Oh man man that is good. That is so fucking good like again. In an alternate world of casting I would love to see Lance Anderson. Be like vision from the avengers. I think he would. Yeah I think he would do so well and if I if I wrote fan fiction I would love to see him and Roy Batty sit down and Avocado like to me Roy Daddy is is like altron whereas whereas bishop is like vision like I would love to see that just should be on the same side but just totally not on the same side. I really really really dig. That and I had a question because obviously you know I'm fucking balls deep on Lantern Ricksen Cock over here. What do you guys think of? What do you you guys think of Michael Fast Benders David versus something like Lynchner? Sion's like what what do you think of the transition between. I know they're two totally different characters. There's in their intense and everything and what have you but What do you think of that about? The trails of these synthetic humans just saying permit ISS and Covenant Not Covenant but Prometheus. Yeah I I mean all the synthetics are always really interesting characters in these movies Ashwin Ashwin was bishop is. And what's the name of fasteners David Right. They're all very different but I think they're all very interesting and play. You know I think prometheus was kind of a pile of Shit fasteners. Great as David is. Yeah definitely the best part official. What about you? Yeah I mean yeah no one hundred percent like an watching watching alien literally literally just back to back with this last week was Kinda fascinating because if you watch it through the lens of Kay if he kind of watch it through the Lens of like how do you watch book on the Second Round of this movie Then you you kind of like catch more and more of You know in in harm's sort of like ash and like how is kind of like to saving these. These people definitely interesting because I think science fiction science fiction movies one of the best tames and most interesting things that they can explore. Is I love the idea of of a I being programmed to do something specifically and then trying to break out of that like Khan of leg right an X. X. Mocking Khanna the situation something like that and I think one hundred percent David Michael Fos Mundus character and is super interesting because of that reason because the in that movie the plot of that movie revolves so much of the plot of the movie revolves around him experimenting on the crew of the permits. And I think that is an interesting idea wasn't executed very well but I think it's interesting idea alien covenant again it's David and his other cantopop. That's just as interesting. Because you've got days to sort of like opposite will say model Android Loyd with two different ideologies than. It's just like where we go from here. So yeah I think the the franchise does android super super well and not. It's not very like other sort of science fiction films that do androids robots yes. It's it's different. It's definitely interesting. I I like that especially usually we see a lot of the. I like x marking Like terminator everybody who fight their their programming. The bishop is so subservient to that. I mean because I'd love he's like it is against my nature to allow or by any cause or harm arm or allow another human being to be harmed. It's but it's still as as Asimov's three roles of robotics that was not mentioned earlier right. I robot that's a great movie but yeah So they've hats. Bishop ended the small conduit. This leaking up the It's the up link tower God talking about fucking Claustrophobia. Dude and great shots of him going to just going through it you like Jesus that's horrifying and bishop swam through five hundred Riyadh's shit the plane on the other side and me like like me thinking about getting my fucking Chubby as body and like I got like a fucking forty eight inch Jesse. I'm like I'M NOT GONNA fit into forty. Eight inch sucks so yeah. They patch bishop and he's crawling on along. Meanwhile the other two century guns began their assault in the other tunnel But I mean the Zinn amores kind of stop. What ten shots left? And they're like wait. What the fuck are they doing I think that's so interesting. They're realizing the trap and it reminds me Love Right I. It reminds me of I am thinking might be. I am legend were. They won't come out for the traps anymore. What are they doing like wolf because they know like they understand what this is and it shows you that they aren't just mindless as there is some kind kind of intelligence? There is something I mean. Any animal starts to feel the heat of a fire too much backup from the fire and it's not so dumb that it just bullrushes the farm. Maybe some but I mean that's this if this thing is the perfect organism the survival and it will kick in and say okay. Well if I go down that way I'm dead. I've got to stop and it makes. Thanks so much sense for them to to to kind of just hall in kind of regroup because what do they have they have time and they have numbers all they need It's also really scary. Sorry the base courageous can adapt to things. You're in the situation. That Glennon Marines. I Ripley then eventually going to be like well fuck what do we do so now we relied on the guns and they've learned like Yeah that that you know. Hey guns ammo right. Yeah exactly I. I'm I'm not sure if we've gone passer for right at the scene were Ripley. She's like. Hey fucking kill me by the way if it ends up coming to that point. I'm not. Yeah Yeah this lighthearted family rob you know and we also get Hicks Training Ripley with the weapons. We kinda see some closest between them but again it's not not it's not heavy handed. It's not shoehorned in you can see glad doesn't evolve into some bullshit romance man right. I mean you can obviously tell like if they got down to the last hour of living she'd be like listen. I JUST WANNA get a dead last. I just come unlike that they don't date after this they don't Oh you know she's she doesn't turn back to save the Hicks. I mean nothing. I'm sure they'll pursue that in the sequel. Yeah right away or do they kill on screen. Cool Cool I love. I love like how as soon as as soon as like their starts to become a moment. Hicks is like well. We might as well get engaged the line because he's kind of addressing the factories like yes. I mean fuck it. We're not going to get engaged. What do you think that happens? After he gives her the the track by the way. That's important thing. Yes what I like to is that it's not just. It's not just the physical attraction thing. There's an attraction between them because of they they respect each other. We see before we see any kind of flirtation like when when she's the one that kind of points out. That Hicks is the one in charge and you know he kind playfully. Reiterates whole thing about nuke them from orbit so their relationship does more than just play love interest it reinforces the fact that they're both strong characters that respect each other and Ford it's worth. I still like when movies. Show me like our character can be capable of something. So you know. Ripley's never fired a pulse rifle. So this little erotic weapons handling class cool. It's a little something practical. It's fuel and I liked it. The first time Ripley shoots it an alien. She kind of like like yells and jumps back in. You know she kind of has to earn her action hero moment at the very end right I did I totally. I noticed. Put in the notes the fact that she's not just this all right. I've learned how to handle a weapon for forty five seconds. I must be a pro at now. She's like no and she not until the end is she really like loaded for bear and fucking you know hauling acid this thing and even and even then she's kind of like duct taping the weapons together. It's kind of bullshit but whatever. It's definitely interesting seeing that that weapon play So yeah we see this close between them with the gun. Shy Ripley goes to check on new. She finds her onto the bed and she dozes off herself. But wakes up and holy shit the jars just kind of like rolling on the floor a little bit Fuck fuck man like looking in the looking in your condos like snake a little your little anaconda aquarium and not seeing the snake anymore. You're like Where is that it actually go ahead? I was just going to say like when you say that true. Like at this point you you. You're not assuming that it's book look alike. You noticed that there's been some other like someone tampered with something. You're assuming that Oh fuck. One of those things is broken out on. Its own accord like some kind of accident. It ended up in this point like before she reaches for the gun. It's not a alike. Okay so this is a situation that we gotta get out of now and then you can unluck hit with the extra Gut Punch and it's like oh the guns going and it's outside of the fucking room and then it's like fucking book right. Yeah because I mean to be completely honest they don't show burke with with you know with Hicks turning that little camera off lying there is. I mean you pretty much know. But there's not one hundred percent guarantee like there's not because of the show us that we know of course you know she wakes up. She ended up setting the lighter to the thing you know the the sprinklers. Everything off we get this fight between her. And the two face as huggers I love the way she traps the first one with the bed and flips over. That's great. That's smart thinking like this thing can't way more than a pound to flip it over the fucking bed over on totally did and like there is a shot of the face. Holiday just crawling towards as Mike Connors sprinting. That looks wholesome and I wanNA give fucking hats off to to stand winston for that shit man because the the practical effects of the creatures in this Definitely got him like they. They look fantastic especially that Shaw Shaw. No absolutely and it gave me very thing feeling you know what the head why crawling away and Shit and you've got to be so. Yeah eventually they're able to they. They get to the MED bay. The shootout the glass. They Save Newton Ripley. I love Hudson. Hudson unloaded half a clip into one of them and Vasquez Vasquez. She's like barely burst fires and kills the other ones. Dude conserve your Ano- do and Hicks Hicks like rolling through the gloss. The through the window fucking. I love that Shit. That looks looks sick and we cue burke being totally unforgivable asshole I love that they caught him afterwards and shit. They wiesner our time. Like he's already like an interrogation share and dogmeat pal. I love his his rebuttal. Also I mean these are paranoid delusions like. It's really sad. It's like dude. I mean for the first thing you should say. How can you prove that I had had anything to do with that? But like the first thing you say is this is just sad. You're all crazy. I don't think so. Fuck you fuck mad about you. I Charlie I'm show. She makes a couple of lakes here like I think I mean like you know obviously from the situation and what we already about book. She can like blame him for for this but like I dunno like Saba Taj the freezes on the way back. That's a bit I mean again like if we see something like hey what happened to the crowd pods little weird like nobody else noticing fucked up like it. There's a couple of weeks but given what we know about him. Seeing him flipped out monitor offer like anything is possible. Now Burke Right So yes. She says that He was his plan was to have them impregnated her news. Thinking slip past. Customs Hicks is about two pounds of pressure away from turning burks head into a canoe and the power is cut. I love that. He's just like all right. We wasted like like very little has because you kind of see Hicks hesitating for a second. And then he's like Nah but the power gets turned off. I love that. It's why the fuck did how are they smart enough to know that necessity for us like fuck animals man right. Yeah it's like Holy Fuck Man. That is another terrifying intelligent move by them so Vasquez and Hudson they take they take. These motion trackers urge and eventually see this movement is coming from all over the fucking place cuts in your crazy. Get outta here. And she's like no he might actually be right and did someone saying to give us look toot into back up this information given by the one that right. Yeah but I love this kind of. It's it's almost the final stand it. I mean it kind of is the final standard them as an entire group together in one room just unloading on these things. I mean this this this. This is the moment you're they've broken through the tunnels you're out of AMMO and the century gones like you've got not only. Do we have the aliens breaking and trying to kill. We had the internal attornal struggle of trying to kill them. I mean he doesn't give a fuck. It's so it's not certificates. Hit a very natural points. Now is the unleashed the crack in moment. Like like now is the moment we have to have a face to face for real confrontation with these things. Michelle and I love. I love the red. Like the Red Light. Yes it feels very. It's like when your school had a tornado drill and all the fucking power got cut off in emergency lights are on and it's even more harsh and impactful because the movies so blue like through most of it like every like nice dominant and so we switched to this red and it's like Holy Shit yes but good fucking catch man and and I mean that's cameron though I mean you fucking look at t to just loves blue light it so but I mean I think it looks fantastic antastic so during this room. This huge firefight happens. They realize they're coming out of the scenes are coming out of the floors and coming out of the toilet. They're coming out of funding everywhere. How and I like you said John Out of the doney right? I like you said this this this great. You know seen with with with Ripley as she goes to fire. She's I even to the point where she screams. She shoots and kind of pushes her back against the wall. She's not ready for the recoil. And you're like Holy Fuck and you know Burke mates this escape and lock them all behind and I guess he's just ahead him so so much. Are you going to get out of there. Are you going to survive now. Like your best bet us to like grovel back until no hope. You're just you're kind of killing your I think at this point it's like fuck it but you know like I said he escaped he locks behind and fucking. Rip Huts Man. I mean he goes down like a boss he kinda Goes Alex. Drake like drake. Wooden fucking put the flame thrower down and get on the ABC's he keeps go in that loss. Scream that he gives is blood-curdling and like just a quick shot of like the fingers fingers alien on his face I would. I would love just just pouring out up and I love Vasquez because you can see how she is. This like firing the fucking grenade. I love seeing more flopping like like head I like doing in front flips and Shit. I love that so good. What awesome when? They're coming down the Carter. I think Oh film that in a vertical like with like the guy in the suit on a row repel when you look at it. It just looks so natural alien the movement you know as it kind of scurrying flying down this Carter. Yes it's like it's like a spider it's just like so like Whoa. What the fuck you know Hudson gets killed? They break the law that into another room room burgers killed as well and he should. I mean he's fucked. It almost reminded me of like Benny and the mummy when he was running through. What do I do now? And he just totally only like snapped up which fuck burke don't care Yeah they break the law they get into this they get into this new room and Newt I mean speaking of on strong female characters mean. Obviously talk by Ripley. Obviously we talked about Vasquez but new nude is I mean her performances. Great I mean there's this awesome kind of PTSD like Sullen kind of like what you said. So had this kind of she is. She's almost accepted this. This has been her day to day life for God. God knows how fucking long I mean maybe not this extreme but the trying to say under Raider radar. Because if you don't I mean you're fucking dead even going out for food or water or I mean trying to find someplace to take a shit you might fucking die and I I love how resourceful she isn't this and she's like no there's this whole thing of tunnels like let's go and she's he's not just a you know she's not a plot device. She's not just a kid she's not just dead weight that they have to worry about because guess wasn't a macguffin right an a an all movies. We can't let the kids especially in you know in a film in the mid eighties. We can't let the kid die. Obviously but no she actually has some kind of some kind of action. Go take some kind of action. I really dig that. They're going through the air vents again. I really did this especially with that with Vasquez and this is I mean and this is also where we see people. I mean Hudson's gone burks gone then we've got Is Goldman or call. WHO's the Shit House lieutenant that everybody hates Gorman Norman? Thank you This is where we Vasquez Gorman kind of going out but again a redemptive thing for Gorman Gorman goes back like he I mean he we. This is the first time we we see him. One of the first ones you see him actually handling a weapon actually having some initiative to do something besides sweat and fucking look wide eyed at a monitor and I really dig on this and I dig the the Camaraderie with the Camaraderie. The I don't even though she's is like God. You've always been an asshole when they die. I mean it's it's just again is she's like if this is. I mean if I'm dying I'm with you at least we're dined together and you get that feeling when she. He grabs his hand. And you know like what's about to happen. It's like fuck man gorgeous sense of in this together kind of a two part redemption. Listen and it. It's not worth it. It doesn't pay off what he collected if you will. Because he's such a fuck up. The obvious redemption is when he goes back for Vasquez they go out together and as a great moment but the other part is the fact that when he comes back to he doesn't try to take back over because he knows he's not cut out for it. It's just that realization that he's not in charge he lets rippling Hicks. Run the show. And it's kind of like a it's an inaction but it's it's a positive thing he's never should have been that position in the first place he's not cut out for it he's you know and the best thing you can do is go out not quite quite like little bitch go with a boss right. I mean Vasquez Alley. She unloads that Fucking Gun. She takes the pistol out Kinda dumb putting your foot on the aliens head and doing come on like you know what these things are going to fucking do get. It's the moment but like I mean you seen what happens if you're saying proximity when they're shot I mean I guess she's kind of hit a point where they're like fuck it but still I'm like I would never put my fucking you put your boot on his head to just eat your foot like fuck. That's a bad move but Vasquez you. She shoots out lush her and her and Gorman blow they blow each other They blow each other up the other cut off from the rest of the group they but their sacrifice buys time. That's the important thing but at the same time. It's a double edged sword. Not only does it by the time but it ends up being the thing that blows nude food kind of back through. She she she kind of takes the express slide back down and events and you can tell the panic again. Ripley's Voice Hicks Getter Hicks Getter. She's so attached this kid man. It's it's it's very believable right so oh yeah like I said new she gets she gets blasted back through the thing they try to get to her and There's no more snatch up though and run away and they're cutting through the floor trying to get a tour and I love Hicks Hesselink pull Ripley ways. Like she's gone. We have to go like we're GONNA die to like this will all be pointless. If we can't fucking get off this rock like not only are early daily intake. Guess what this whole place is going to be. What does he says? I bishop later. This whole thing's going to be an atomic blast the size Nebraska about twenty. He two minutes. It's like get the fuck off this rock there. I just want to mention man like the way the way that fucking Zany Verizon's out of that water the tail fucking grabs near. It's just it's just the next level good. He's like man. These animals like the the suits look. Awesome them with the with the look of the wet. Like you know the the slime. That's just coming off them. It looks fantastic man and looks other worldly the And I absolutely and then like this whole sequence of of Hicks and Hicks in Ripley going into this elevator Lavazza and man. This is fucking quick as jump scare of this alien that grabs grabs the doors of the lifts and Hicks just has to blasted open bucket goal. Well Yeah and this. especially when Hicks is pulling Ripley away and she's they don't kill you. They don't kill you like she knows what's going to happen to her. And that's that's where I mean if they were just like. Hey they rip earn have. Obviously she'd be heartbroken but like Lee. She's not going to be turned the difference ring killing somebody in torturing them. It's like Faulk Man Mandat. I I had a little bit of a problem with that. I mean show that. Kill you in this movie. But the the first as one that killed him like going Dalians killed fuck in fact they didn't have a queen To deliver the eggs like that's their whole. Biology is such a weird thing. When you really think about it where to reproduce he was literally needed a living host so the only way you can reproduce is to get is to capture? Yeah I mean that's it's Kinda goofy signs minds if you really think about it but yeah I guess that's the because everyone of those columnists was brought down there alive because they're pinned up against the wall. These are earlier and it's so you don't see it because it's not a very obviously because not lit super well but all the dead ones. They're chester bursts blown open so they are brought brought down there. Live to give birth to a little lewd run around. Yeah it makes sense to me like if you put it that way like they have an objective to capture to capture these colonists that they can I guess propagate their species also the one the one yeah in the first one like the one in the first one didn't really have that intention it was just kind of like that thing on that ship as well right yeah Kane. It's the false hope of cain coming back man like I'm fine. I'M GONNA sit down and eat a meal. He is like I'm good like imagine when they go into that fucking basement cocoon for the first time. All the Marines together and that women are still alive dude. How long has she been alive down there? Like how long has it been since anybody's heard anything from these people you imagine. Imagine how. Long's she sat there and had to wait and wait and wait when she knows everybody around her died. This way like that is that's torture man like Holy Holy Fuck that that's the kind of shit scares the fuck out of me like no. I'm sorry it's the same length of time that newt's been running around right right. Yeah Yeah it's like good God man like that that is terrifying to me knowing that is coming into sitting there making somebody wait like faulk but yeah they get to this elevator. You know he shoots shoots from the head I'll T- to I love that I mean it's just like t- to yes. I assume you have good taste But yeah but again in close proximity Hicks skits fucking hit with the what the acid and I love I love the the I being the I being blinded the armor just getting shredded off because it's like they're literally literally down to their down to nothing. There's no weapons left there's no armor and luckily this is where you know bishops. I got the ship Mobile Blah. And they they get back to the ship and she's like we're not leaving. We're not change into plans right so the second job trip arrive we see you know Ripley kind of loading up a weapon. She's getting ready. Great great scene between her and Hicks six. Where he's like you know? Hey wh- what exactly does he say to her here. where he gives his first name? I D I. I can't quite Ryan Dwayne thank you and She's like she's like hey he's like hurry back Ellen. I'm like. Oh that's cool. I dig that because again. Exactly what you said just this respect factor of like I think we can cut the formalities. Now like we know each other pretty decently like we're both we're both like I get a somewhat like Mad Max furio survive of like we're to work. Yeah we're this we're this warrior. Respect thing you know we're like we're both equally equally matched but It's it's it's it's cool I I I di equally matched but in different ways and I think that's so interesting it can bishop. Yeah this thing's going to be the size of Montana and like the hour twenty two minutes or something whatever. He says But she restock on the Ano- I do dig it though her putting the plasma rifle with the fucking flame thrower I'm like Oh allege conic I mean this whole this whole shot of a coming down the lift and then like the the doors of the lifts just Liping Zyppah up and she's standing there and you get this really kind of like this movement of the camera just pans in on her and looks fucking fantastic. Good well and I've got to ask Josh. What is the A- as she's walking she clicks these things and I know we're not quite area it? Is it like a tracer thing they look like little green cigarettes. You know what I mean flares okay. That's what I thought but I was like are these she just marking to know where she's been. Okay got down there and man so smart again. She's such a bad ass. You know not just the gearing up and having all the weapons but she knows go into some crazy shit and going to have to be moving out very quickly uh-huh and just the you said the look of this whole seen her going in and it's you think about a movie so so often when you get to this final sequence you're going to try to escalate the final sets going to be even bigger and better and you're introduced new weapons. No it's at the same place. They went before she has the same weapons we've seen before but the way it shot and the fact that it's her in the stakes and the time crunch inch that's there. It's cool that when the the voices fifteen minutes actually fifteen minutes screen time the nice old touch the close up on the pile light and incinerator. These are new things things. The movies already established and yet it feels more climactic. And that's that's awesome. That's well done instead of being the cheap thing of like all right we just have to make it bigger and more and boom. You're right. Yeah because we've seen we've come down here before and we've had well trained well equipped a group of people and now we have a You know we have this character. Who isn't trained in this weaponry who has no armor? But she has the experience to deal with these things. And that's what's so fucking cool about. It is like her drive and her experience with them and her burn. Her wits are ultimately. Kind of what saver in this and it ends up being. Yeah unfortunately you know yes. All these people have had to fucking die. They had no idea what they were walking into. They probably thought there was one of now. She knows you have to have is in the back of your head you just have to constantly be looking around you and I think that's for so and so interesting about. She's she's killed one of these things before so I think as much as she is like fuck I mean I'm in a lot of danger. She and the back of her head. I think she's like I killed. When you fuckers already you know like I fucking? I took out one of your kind like I didn't do it again there. I think she knows like. Where's we've seen all these people get obliterated by it and they probably feel not that? These things are unstoppable but because there are so many of them you know. She's like I'm not here to wipe out this whole thing. I'm just here to get the fuck because the reactor is going to do my job for me when we get the fuck off. This planet is not going to lose another daughter again reassess exactly so yes. She and I love her strapping. A motion motion tracker the whatever. The tracker beacon thing to gun. I'd love that her and she goes. She goes Louis ended the elevator. She's walking around and her just like randomly just blowing fire everywhere like I i. It kind of made me laugh. I'm like she just like here. Likes blowing glowing fire at random intervals. Okay Kinda made me laugh and like as she torch and Shit just a torch IT I. I didn't quite understand but it looks cool. I'M NOT GONNA judge too much but she finds the fucking watch and Oh dude the just you know even if you've never seen before you know it's not dead you know there's no way but like just the the the half a second. They let her think that she is dead. ooh That's great. Oh that stinks man. But like I said she's not She wakes new wakes up covered in fucking spiderman wedding and and the the shot of Su as soon as she wakes up the face hugger just opens up the egg offers. I'm really Oh fuck man like just prime for the fucking it. It's like taking candy from a baby. It's right there. Qatari and Newt saw terrifying screams of terror at the face. Hugger led a ripley nowhere. To find her she goes in. She started fucking nihilist. She shoots the eggs up. This shot of the in Amore flight fucking jumping from wall to wall. It's getting closer. That's one of my favorite shots in the whole movie. I love it right after she lights up that that face hugger egg and that thing just comes to leaping around the corner you're like holy fuck man like to me. That's something scarier if you just saw this thing running down a hallway. Just the the League factor on her like you imagine how you imagine the dunk ratio on these like zinn Amorphous airplanes dude. Holy Holy Fuck. This report is just like the Michael Jordan ninety-six Slam Slam contest. But it's more the ball and it's an and so yes she she. She serves boiling up. These fucking Blowing up these guys left and rights killed him and she stumbles. I mean literally ask backwards into the nest. The two it is talk to me about the scene somebody. This is one of my my favorite scenes in cinema history of Holy Shit man like just the way everything drops out music. Doc All sounds and all you hear is it's fucking intense and you say not the decision to shoot this egg first and then moving your way up until like up the fuck in etre whatever the fuck you want a cold that shit and like harnessing the shadows of the eggs inside the tube and Cape Haning panning up and up until you say the Queen and it's fucking beautiful dirt like it's just absolutely brilliant The the sound of the breeding is James. Cameron off did not know that before watching it. This time around the Santa the reading is James Cameron. The sound of the Quyen actually like squealing and making noises is James Cameron Cameron. The sound is on a guy. Radstrom said he wanted to use like a a sound of like dry ice blending in with like monkey screams but cameron lead. And he's like not doing that and then he's recorded himself. Josh what do you think about this man. It's awesome the patients like you said to. Just you know go from heavy action. Take that helps to build up this dread and that look of that creature you know. So what's done so on this movie. He is is what you see. And don't see you know like you're calling. You're talking about that thing jumping around alternately. That's dude dude in an a bug soup so yeah yeah. If you don't shoot that right. That could look silly as fuck but they he does such a good job of just showing the right snippets. And then when you have something that's going to look bad. Ask You really take the time to see this queen unfurl and that mall descend out of its face man all Hong and then you know it's maybe a little on the nose but is fine like the mom on mom thing right of protecting their babies. You know Ripley's got new and she threatens the eggs in a very deliberate way in the clean responds by sending ending those minions away and buying Ripley the time to go back and then just go house on the whole room. Well yeah a whole the guy said the sound drops no dialogue nothing. There's no there's not even had there's no it's literally they just look at each other. She has to do one thing below below that fire in the air and the queen's everybody back up everybody back up and everybody back the fuck up. It's so Awesome Sixteen in people to upright this puppet. Yes dude fuck in crank stain. They were in that panel. They're like how tall did this thing stand. They're like sitting down. It was like twelve feet tall and Leonard since like man when I was in there fucking about to get ripped in half I felt a fucking hell of a lot farther other than twelve feet in the air. I thought I was forty feet up somewhere but My go ahead. I was just going to say this quick. Shot heads hits headshot of like Ripley just like burning the fuck out of eggs. That was a Vietnam shot. Looks like ripped out watchman. Man You know quick like Vietnam sequence and I did the whole thing of you know the thing is i. Here's here's a you know Ripley's backing up I. I don't think she has any because she knows what happened to this planet. Why does she need to set everything on fire? She's like I'm just going to back up. See you guys later. 'cause you don't know what's about to happen but then we see the egg open And she's like no fuck this by. I know what you're doing. And she just torches everything she's like which again is like. Is it necessary. No because the whole planet getting destroyed and fucking four minutes but at the same time. It's kind of like it's just a fuck you to the queen is like fuck you I you know. I not that. We're having having some tree some truce right now but the fact that you're not even GonNa let me walk out of this room like you see this starving. I was like Holy Shit. That's such a cool detail. I really dig get so yes she fucking. She tortures the whole place off. She started glow in the shot of her as she shooting and she's kind of we see the counter going down in her SC winning winning as she's firing. I fucking dig it man. You see a little bit more proficient with the weapon and and yeah all this I mean she she kind of have she throws the whole grenade bell. She starts blasting grenade into the queen's like fucking like vagina sack. I really really dig that. We see the holes getting blown in and all this Gu coming hang out. She just rips herself off of that thing like the paint. It made me empathize with this. Like the pain of ripping yourself offering that thing like. Oh God like that's got a fucking hurt like a motherfucker. Did Tear my exact on getting a bold frozen like you bowls in like an ice stuck. It's like Jodi dogs nuts. Get stuck to the front porch so she has she detached from her nasty She's chasing him We have this kind of elevator. Chase for Ripley new get in and start going up. I love as the elevator opens up. The Queen looks at it but I just wanted one scene. The Queen going up and it's kind of like this elevator music plan. She's she's like tapping her puck. And what night for head Bob and left to right. And she's like looking at her watch she's not like the idea of taking an elevator fucking makes me laugh though. I'm I'm sorry. Ah Those fucking wid but I mean. I don't think it's so excellent. She's intelligent creature. She's saw Ripley. Get in wanting go up and then the other one opens and she saw the thing ascend so she's like okay as long as they don't show like you said the little finger reaching out and hitting like yeah we have to Soom automatically goes right. There's like a like a like one of those people who operates appraise lift in there right. He's got like a nice like velvet. Like kind of Jaguar so I end Wa the whole the whole image of her writings inches. It's FUCKING I. You know I would have died just to see her through this thing and crawl all up the fucking shaft like do that. That's that's minute that's way more menacing because she's big enough to take up an entire elevator. Shaft Holy Fuck definitely arrive at the money for that report Ripley arrives Bishop has gone in I. Why why the fuck is he gone? Oh yeah that landing. Pat Is crumbling apart that it really think about that but I this is now considered trophy but like this thing just stretched out further and for the last minute pulling up away from the planet and I know this was probably not trophy at the time but man I mean I just I could do without the whole like skin of your teeth every single time you you watch one of these movies and I. I don't hate it but at the end of the day I was like you know I can just do with her throwing her on the ship getting an getting out of there because ultimately N-no they're so close that as soon as they fly away when the same explodes they're still GonNa get rocked with that fucking white light and I love that. I think that's the James Cameron thing. The like like his his climax is often pretty fucking massive and like I guess really really long Eh. They often have like these really sort of like a little sequences within them. That are dislike it. We're GONNA. We're GONNA no pretend that you know something's happening. Oh like someone's GonNa lose their lives but it doesn't really happen. Happens in tater quite a bit You know from the helicopter tries to the and smelting plant. But I mean obviously I think it was done better there and Avatar just goes on for eight years it seems like I would say I'd give MHM. Maybe it's unfair but I'm GONNA give credit here and even if it is that little excessive because you want complete relief like you you want to be like okay. You really stretch that out. They did it. They got away for the final re confrontation to have the payoff. You know what I mean like if it eh if it was a little bit quicker in you know less drawn out I think maybe you'd have a little bit more suspicion. It's it's hard to again when I saw this so long ago. Oh I didn't even remember. Maybe I'm interested to hear what you think. So you know if having seen it more recently did you. Did you think there was another confrontation confrontation to come when they clear this because that's obviously what he's trying to do. I mean I think yeah I definitely do remember thinking I had no oh idea because I definitely heard of the getaway from her. You bitch moment and like thinking watching this mood the first time I was like that hasn't happened. What the Fuck Doc? I think it was like a little bit by that that yeah I mean definitely like there is somewhat of like A. There's no triumphant moment like Dean Automation. There's no sort of like moment here on the landing pad where it's like. Okay the coins dead. We can all all celebrate or some shit like that done explicitly say the Quyen debt and like the the introduction of the coin is so massive. Like when we I air like either this at epic epic moment when you see that which describes end like. There's no sort of like death that kind of balances that out like here until we get to the the the the the battle on the ship so I don't think I yeah. I didn't really think it works works in that sense. You're right now like I. I think this had been a little bit shorter. Okay cool because now we're down for the big bed fight even when we're away from. Lv Four to six. This is followed US home. Tom And I think that I think that's fine. But it is kind of a false climax in a way which it it isn't it. Isn't you know what I mean. I don't WanNa get like too hung up on it but yeah I mean. I think it's fair to debate whether it works but clearly. The intention is for two false climax because once they get up here and I mean the music transitions. Is this great like peaceful relief. Kind of music. Everything goes com- as the ship gets into the star field. And then you know they have this nice moment bishop ship in Ripley finally. Have this nice moment together. You know where she pays in the respect that he's obviously earned and that fucking thing. I remember as a kid. I don't remember how surprise I was or anything but just that visual I think stuck with me more than anything when I saw the movie of the UH the thing coming out of his stomach the tail and the the milk coming out of his mouth and then getting ripped in half and his gross wipe the android cuts everywhere. It's amazing it's fantastic. Apparently the the miracle of a solution that he that he's got an his mouth because they had to reassure this quite a few times. They left like the milk outside. Ed Yeah and it went bad so I think he got really sick from that. was that a thing called him. Yeah that was in the panel. They said for four days as he had like horrible food poisoning his vomiting. And it was all the silicone. Latex plus this milk day left out in the guy who did all the special effects was on the pan goes. I've I've said this multiple times but I've got to say again lance we really put you through a Lotta Shit in this movie. And I'm so sorry like him like the whole act of him. Getting ripped in half is like shot in reverse somehow and he had to act it backwards and they're like man you know hats off and he was just such a fucking trooper during this movie and even even to the point. Where like they're like? Yeah well we'RE GONNA do we're just gonNa have like this kind of like the Peter Weller robocop like thing laying on the floor. That's obviously animatronic and bless her interests like no fuck that I can do it. And they're like are you sure you have to be like sewn into the floor like you're going to have to lay there with you like your legs under the floor. And he's like yeah. That's fine I can do it. The guys just such a trooper Manson illiterate until the age of thirty by the way never completed anything past the first grade. Hoy's hoyt his shit. I love like he had like a such a crazy experience on this film. But he's like oh just come back for the next one as well. It's fun so but right now I mean in Avp. I'm pretty sure. Oh He is India. That's so interesting man but but yeah is it Yeah the Queen Queen POPs up she. She fucking spears him through the chest and crawls down holy fuck man like the way she rips Amon half one arm pull and the other way like. Oh Aw God that's so fucking brutal and the fact that like I know he can't feel pain but it's just something so unnerving about him laying. There was literally has God's laying like Josh like booth Smelling Dog Shit Yourself. So yeah and you know. Obviously Hicks has totally sedated from. His injuries were forgot to mention that the queen goes for new similar. How Ripley has just gone after her babies but Ripley manages to get her attention and she chases her instead I like this this little Hide and seek game between all Newton McQueen. I like that I actually I dig the movement of Ripley definitely running for the door and the queen like because everything that we've seen the queen has been very stationary and we haven't seen her move and like when she runs for the Oreo like ooh fuck like that's like you really get the sense of. How actually big? She is out outside of the nest. And I'll tell you what like and this is this is why I was like really excited for Alien Covenant and I'm GonNa Take resurrection out of the game because it's dog shit but like the seeing being the aliens created with today's technology and like seeing them move that I'm not even kidding. That was something that was a highlight Pau. Aw Covenant for me because I I mean the alien designs fantastic but I daren't think that they especially in these alienate these. I don't think that they move as well as they could. Only because they're limited by technology and they limited by the practical effects the Seiji in covenant an update. It's pretty it's solid and the what the why they make these aliens move is is fucking awesome. I've been waiting to say that I think the I think the Queen Econo- still moves a little sort of clumsily. Senator sure now it definitely looks a little. It looks a little wobbly. Are you're like yeah the effects on covenant or solid will even a doctor to solid the bad movie. Gentlemen I believe that I have one final one final to play for you. Let me get so. If there's one thing we gotta play cliff from come on get away from her you bitch. Aw wholesome mazing so I mean. This is pretty tough I. It's the obvious fight between the two of them not a great fight. I don't really love it. It's IT'S A who'll it's cool in concept but you can just at a it's cool but like like Zoa upset. It's the problem the tech you can't you can't show the whole thing pan back and show him fight and make it look awesome. So you've got to be creative with angles and cuts the tailgating swinging around looks CBS. By the way I mean if this if this were a real situation she's going. I mean Ripley's going down. I'm sorry like this. You will not bathing. This claim that I'm sorry that it's like a big powerful robot machine thing probably wise. It's on but ah the mobility of that. I imagine this coin would have. I mean you're thinking about like dainty terms like wait. This thing is called club buy into the strike. Is this man. Fuck Yeah Dude seriously. It's it's it's got so many ways to kill your and and also your chest is exposed like that's a big issue. Yeah Oh yeah but obviously you know we get the fight I really dig the fact that as she she pissing harassment. She's about to go throw it out and pulls her in with armor like Oh the thing you thought was going to help you. What ends up dragging you down here with me? Okay okay. That's fucking cool but of course. She crawls out. She ended up flipping the airlock and very similar to the first film. Sucks the fucking bitch out. And and she's gone. I do go ahead. Slow slow disappointed by that and she she kills it the same way she goes the first one. It's it's it's a little. Yeah Hell how many. How else are you gonNA kill it there? Well the thing that cracks me up grabs a hold of her leg and it doesn't rep her fucking leg off. I'm like come on at least take a limb like she shouldn't walk away from this I completely unscathed unscathed like yeah but of course it gets it gets jettisoned out in space. I Love Bishop Catching Newt. I just I don't know why I love that it's so Even with him with half his guts hanging out all over the floor. It's like I'm still resourceful so useful so I'm helping pleased on decommission this right. Yeah but you know. She crawls back up they get the Bay doors shot and I mean this is pretty much the end of the movie all hyper-sleep she tells her don't have any bad dreams and I love went to not bad for a human like. Oh that's so so good dude. That's such a fucking line in this on and they all go into hyper-sleep and they definitely don't get killed in alien three off. Yeah pretty much. The franchise make movies. Because there's nothing more to talk about right. Oh yeah apparently. The the unused alien three scripts our radio drama and Leonard. And Michael. Biehn came back to do it. I don't know where you can listen to it but you can find it somewhere. It's an an unused script that they did a radio drama four and I was like Oh man I've always wanted to listen to a radio. Dramas I sit around. A fire. Spoke a Corncob pipe and act like a working in the field during the depression. Accent that about that. I think he's so interesting but I mean the production troubles full alien. Three could be a movie all of themselves but stuff like that movie is its venture. Yeah it Steph inches first movie and he was just kind of like pushed around a lot by twentieth century Fox and man the amount of demand of like fucking studio interference in that maybe was just next level. I actually I can't remember. It might have been headier member. Ah like Chris and the guys did a fantastic episode on alien for it. That justify totally John's a lot on that I mean it's like Ridley Lee. Scott James Cameron David fincher. There should have been the third home run right there but I mean if you love David Fincher to it. I'm sure it would have been fucking because what he did alien then in turn rounded like seven not even a year or year or two later maybe I mean he just absolutely crushed. That just did fuck locum. I was at seven. I think seven I seven I will call ninety nine okay. It's seven then. Yeah because you're fucking can lane bitch you stand your land because you still haven't seen seven best heaven. Never seen it in the box You mentioned James Horner earlier and the the music is great in here but man The finale as you they defeat the queen it sounds a shit load like the finale from Star Trek to Rathikant alias. Elise I think it was like three years earlier or something. Yeah it's it's it's a little blatant war guys. That's fucking aliens throughout the third totally winter. I finally is right. Whoever wants to go first final thoughts? You had to do a comment. No no Oh oh yeah you wanna read comments. I and you know what seeing saying is like you know the the the guys put their effort in already couple. If that's cool. Yeah no that's GonNa do final thoughts and then comments. Yeah go ahead let's fuck it But yeah does thank you so much for commenting. Holy Shit Danny Okada. Aw She says fucking love this movie Ellen. Ripley is one of the greatest of all time. It's infinitely quotable to cause great and send Winstons affects phenomenal. The quaint alien is only rivaled by the T. rex from drastic pock for me in terms of orange sparring practical effects as much as I love. The original. Aliens is the one I find myself throwing on. I watch way more often. This is definitely a desert all and maybe make Kenna white to hear your coverage of it so thanks so much for that Daniel Danielle rather a a female. Yeah hope we did a This one was a tough one to approach. I think order a caused Patrick Harrington this movie sorry talking good Nathan Burkhardt left quite a lengthy message. I'm going to try and attempt all of it but so stick with me. God's fucking Nathan. We can't be succinct Kenya. He's Oh my God. I love this movie. I used to watch it almost once a week. We Are Ellen Ripley fans in my family. I was gifted alien hallmark ornaments from my mother. Odd Goal I talk crap about most of the sequels but I'd I'd still watch them again and given the bad ones have watchable pods. I agree with that night then. Aliens is definitely the best one they take the lottery. Genre boxes with this one horror thrilla action comedy Etcetera I'd say alien is one of the most one of the best acted horror movies ever and one of the scariest without actually showing the monster until the end of the movie. Even then it was a crappy rubber soudan it was still. It was still suspension suspense. One scary kind of wipe here this one. I used to quite that all the time. I hit those extra footage director. Scott attracted down pre Internet. This is one of the movies by which I measure a person's worth as human by their reaction to it more opinion of it nuts. A thousand said Fuck you love and I got a couple of pulled up from instagram. Mattis Fallon who was I was always very chat and always has his grandma appreciate originalist. Great but aliens was better. I mean hard argue. A lot of people feel that way Just you privet Rivet Hell. Yes short and sweet lava. Deanery I get fucking Roadhouse Menu. Josh get aliens and get out a grossness allocation of resources Dean and don't forget Madoff so got the invitation so nice. I don't know what the fuck this person's name is Shawn Sean Sean Tarleton racing said love it and need more like alien and aliens. I mean Carter argue with that fucking great comment. Thanks all you guys commenting in there anymore. Miss any I don't think I did it. Yeah that's pretty much. It guys final thought somebody please. Gosh I mean I think we've got this movie enough and man balls and use. Oh heb complain about being sink to a listener after we just ramble for fucking doc. Our there's not a lot absolutely loved this movie as I'm listening to those comments. I wish if somebody who hadn't seen the movies I would definitely recommend seeing alien I because I I think it sets it up well and you know what show it so great as as a two part punch and you know you don't really think about a lot is it. Just the the the clever simple miss the the brilliant simple bonus of those titles alien aliens you take a movie. That's about one alien. That's a horror that's as close tight. You know just absolute seat Edgier seat digging your fingernails in Russia coca. Yep then then you up the stakes by making a bunch of them. So because it's how else would you the the two things do. Great years they raise the stakes by having a bunch of aliens and and you know along with that they have bring a lot more firepower into it because of course they would because they have the option to and yet they're still overwhelmed by it And then the the personal story. This is really about Ripley and that's something like I said I didn't appreciate nearly as much I think. A couple of scenes in the special edition are absolutely critical critical for that to really bring it home. But man absolute top. PA Probably Top ten movie for sure for me all-time Elliot's Zoe. What about you man? Yeah like like you said Josh. What what else can we say about? Maybe that has already like. This is Probably alongside tater. Probably the perfect sequel inside that it's one director who directed both It's not every day that you get a sequel. That is as strong as the first one. If not better and something that just absolutely up stakes that is just so mired in popular culture that everyone knows knows it. Everyone knows the references to say. Get away from her. You Bitch the people on going to look sideways swearing. They're just going to be like. Oh Yeah that's aliens that's cool man like this is just is to an absolutely infinitely re watchable movie. Danielle one hundred percent hit the nail on the head when she said this is the one. That's more ray watchable because it's just a lot more -taining it's like Josh is something that's I'm GonNA throw back in your face I I was. I was releasing to media's coverage each of Goodfellas no longer and something I think you said Godfather is probably the better movie but Mattel Liz is the more entertaining and that's the one that I'd prefer to rewatch and I wholeheartedly agreed with that sentiment and like that. I think applies here. I think a lot of like movie Aficionados would choose alien of Aliens but aliens is the more watchable one and probably you know might even even into the the the ring as probably the better one the May last. But I love this fucking. Maybe really glad to have covered it with your Josh and Colin as always always okay own meals on. It's short and sweet. Ten out of ten guys. Thanks for listening to us. I mean I love this this movie. It's a ten out of ten. We talk three and a half hours. I got nothing else. I'm tapped has pretty much a Josh thank you so much for coming. On door's always open please. If there's ever ever anything Anything else from that list. You're more than welcome just to fucking drop a date near doors on anybody from LS. She door's always open to come. And be on this show this week failing covenant rather kill myself. Wait till might my little mouse comes out of my mouth and works your heart from your chest now guys guys thank you so much for listening. Please be sure to check out the el-Sheikh community as you've heard so much on this podcast. I'm still waiting for those checks for their free ad revenue that they get Yeah they exiles podcast for sure yes. It's fantastic you guys do a great job covering that China and it's beautiful. We'll check out the community as well and check out Joshua's business. I Guess Ron Masters Cape. Yeah Yeah if you're in the In the South Massachusetts Massachusetts area or over visiting this way got to escape room called mass escape. Pretty Good Pretty Goddamn good. We're like the ninth-rated in the US go. Oh that's awesome awesome. Do they're a shit ton in Nashville. It'd be the number nine in the. US like that's fucking awesome. Some dude hats off like really. That's fucking really cool. I can literally throw a rock in national fucking escape Guys thank you so much for hanging late. Listen to our coverage of aliens. I mean we've got a host on. It's one of the best movies of all time. 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People Watch movies I think it's a great community. You have built in through a community like that we can have people like Josh on and Maybe undo a guest. We're going to have on for the first time soon. Little teaser GONNA stick the tip of that in there. Make you wait till next week. Ah Fuck your mother. We don't condone these fucking guys. You got anything else before we get out of here. No Good Dude. I'm fucked Josh. Thanks again for coming on saying like guys we will catch you later. Cue that altro music it. Yeah I think the North East

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