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Baseball Rights a Wrong by Adding Negro Leagues to Official Records
"And on the year of its hundredth anniversary. Negro league baseball is being reclassified as a major league that means the stats of baseball greats. Like willie mays satchel page josh gibson and thirty four hundred. Other players will be incorporated into the official records of major league. Baseball in one thousand nine hundred sixty nine special commission added the records of six early leagues to the mlb books. Dating back to eighteen seventy six but it left out the negro leagues now with the help of the elias sports bureau. It's updating the books to include the negro leagues. mlb says it's correcting a longtime oversight in the game's history
SCOTUS rejects Texas bid to overturn election results in 4 states
"We were expecting tonight's supreme court ruling which as we've been talking about absolutely shut down this effort by the president and a huge chunk of the republican party to throw out the presidential election results and keep trump power even though he lost the election as we've just spoken with marc elias about that has now happened The supreme court firmly closing the door to the president on what on this case that the president had called the big one. This is the one he's been telling. His supporters would be the case by which he overthrew election results. That's not going to happen.
Does Trump have any options after Supreme Court rejects Texas lawsuit?
"Us. Now is marc elias. He's founder of democracy docket. he's a veteran. Democratic voting rights attorney. He has played a key role in the biden campaigns. Legal effort to fight these bogus election challenges and he has been very busy. He's litigated over. Sixty post-election cases thus far mr lyons thank you so much for making time tonight. I know you're probably exhausted. I appreciate you being here. I am exhausted but like all of us also breathing a huge sigh of relief. Not that this was ever redoubt But it's good to have it behind us and rachel. Thank you for everything you've done to keep shining at a light on us. Oh well let me ask you about how the quality of the light the. Because i am not a lawyer and i do know that what happened tonight at the supreme court. I've seen people who are lawyers who are very good at this sort of summarizing it in different ways. Let me just give you a chance to tell me if i said any of that wrong or if you think there's an easier or better way to explain what this court ruling was tonight and how it went down i gotta right. I mean i think the the the takeaway is that the supreme court ruled nine zero against the president against the state of texas which was doing his doing his bidding here Seven at the justices said you. Don't get in the courthouse door to the justices. Say as a matter of of of rule we think any state always gets in the door get said the ability to file this against gets a file a lawsuit of this kind but we wouldn't grant here Your motion for expedited treatment. We wouldn't grant your motion for an injunction. We wouldn grant to your motion for administrative stay so even even if this got the door we wouldn't we wouldn't do anything to advance at any further so to me. It's a clear Nine zero results and mark. Do you think that this is just the first of a whole bunch of cases that they will figure out ways to get to the supreme court. There will be more. Obviously there was the pennsylvania case just a few days ago that supreme court also held the door shut on. There's i don't think anybody thinks there's been any substantive case in any jurisdiction in any court anywhere in the country that's going to get to the supreme court because the courts gonna have a hard time on the merits. But do you think they are going to try to get arizona case or some other case as many cases they can to keep coming up before the courts just sort of indefinitely. Yeah i mean just The last twenty. Four hours we've seen the arizona contests cases case in state court That was filed to contest the election. That The trump trump's team lost at the trial court lost in the arizona supreme court by the way the arizona supreme court not known for its liberal bent And that they now Fashioned an appeal to the us supreme court That they filed today and the cracking conspiracy case out of georgia. I saw they had filed in the spring for block typically filing a lawsuit his Just a matter of filing fee the in the supreme court. It's even less than that. So they can file these cases but they're not going anywhere and i think after today even though many of us predicted that this case wasn't going anywhere i think it's fair to say Al's cracking conspiracy. Nonsense is not gonna Knocking occupied much time with the supreme court. Market is remarkable scene. You and your colleagues basically win sixty straight here It was amazing to see it to be a dozen straight and then twenty then thirty and then forty and it just keeps going. They've just lost at every level and in some cases been really quite chastised by judges hearing these cases about how how bad they aren't how pointless they are they. Just there's they've had no traction whatsoever. And i have to ask you now of landmark moment with the court having made this decision tonight if this is more than just wins and losses if you think the volume and the pace and the unrelenting nature of what they're doing despite consistent rejection says something about our democratic process and the two parties that's different than who we might have thought we were coming into this. Yeah it's a really good question is the thing that troubles me most about where we are you know i was asked a few days ago. How many lawsuits. They're typically filed by a by a cam candidate or money. Can't they lose an election. I said the answer zero like we can't live. This seem more money. The fact is i. I was counsel for john. Kerry is now council hillary clinton's. I've sat in that room with candidates who have lost closer elections than donald trump. Lost here and you weigh those options you you say. Is there something that can be done. But at the end of the day our system relies on the fact that when candidates lose and it is clear they lost that they can see both for the peaceful transition of power which is which is part of it but also for the continuance of democracy of the democratic system is the norm of accepting election results and this was not a close election. I love to say that we won fifty seven lawsuits because me and the other ripple lawyers involved were grave warriors but the fact is we won because joe biden harris one virtually landslides in these states. I mean these were not close elections. And so what i am worried about is that trumpism has so infected the republican party that this is what the republican party is.
Farmers Are Warming Up To The Fight Against Climate Change
"Conservative farmers who have blocked climate legislation in the past, both groups are calling for policies to help farmers fight climate change through financial incentives, not regulation. NPR's Dan Charles has more It was 2009. When the American Farm Bureau Federation declared war on climate legislation, and Ana Unwra Cohen was a staffer in Congress. We were right in the thick of working on the first comprehensive climate build of passage Chamber of Congress, the law would have limited greenhouse emissions using a method called cap and trade. But the farm Bureau, a lobbying powerhouse, said the cap part would drive up costs and put farmers out of business. Don't cap our future, I think was their slogan, and they had those on caps. That people were wearing up on on Capitol Hill, and they succeeded. The legislation died this week. The head of the farm bureau, Zippy DeVol, struck a different tone. We're gonna have a real common sense science based discussion about how we protect the climate. And our farmers want to be part of that he was announcing a new food and agriculture climate alliance. It includes other farm groups. Also big environmental organizations like the Nature Conservancy, where people Elias is director of agriculture it feels like in the past. 18 months, The conversation has just really shifted. The shift is happening for a couple of reasons. Many food companies have promised to reduce their greenhouse emissions. And they're pushing for changes on the farm, sometimes paying for the changes. And Barb Glen, who CEO of the National Association of State Departments of Agriculture, says it's partly just what farmers are experiencing everyone in this unique coalition. Understands and is witnessing the changing of the climate, and we all want to be involved In impacting this. The new alliance is proposing dozens of policy changes that encourage farmers to install equipment that captures methane, the powerful greenhouse gas from Cal manure or farm in a way that builds healthier carbon rich soil, actually removing carbon from the air. Farmers would get paid to do this, maybe by the government, maybe by private companies that want to offset or cancel out some of their own carbon emissions by paying for greenhouse gas reductions somewhere else. Some environmentalists who are not part of this alliance, like Jason Davidson at Friends of the Earth are dead set against some of those ideas. There's a heavy reliance on voluntary market based solutions. But those carbon offsets that farmers might sell just allow polluters somewhere to keep polluting, he says. Also, it could be hard to measure what some of these farming methods actually accomplish. MEREDITH Niles, specialist on farming and the environment of the University of Vermont, says scientists are working on that measurement problem. And the fact that farm groups are finally talking about reducing their own greenhouse emissions, she says, is a big step forward. A lot of farmers didn't want to speak about it because it might mean potential regulation. They're fine with incentives, though. And there are signs that the incoming Biden administration is thinking the same way. The leader of the Biden transition team for the U. S. Department of Agriculture recently called on the USDA to set up a so called carbon bank. It would pay farmers to fight climate change. Dan Charles NPR news 2020 has been ah lot and among the many things that
Farmers Are Warming Up To The Fight Against Climate Change
"An unusual came together on climate. This week environmentalists and bedrock conservative farmers. Who have blocked climate legislation in the past. Both groups are calling for policies to help farmers fight climate change through financial incentives. Not regulation and peers to insurance has more. It was two thousand nine when the american farm bureau federation declared war on climate legislation and unan rococo. It was a staffer in congress. We were right in the thick of working on the first comprehensive climate bill passed the chamber of congress the law would have limited greenhouse emissions using a method called cap and trade but the farm a lobbying powerhouse said the cap part would drive up costs and put farmers out of business. Don't cap our future. I think was their slogan and and they had those on cats that people were wearing up on on capitol hill and they succeeded. The legislation died this week. The head of the farm bureau zippy divall struck a different tone. We're going to have a real common sense. Science based discussion about how we pretend to climate and our farmers won't be part of that. He was announcing a new food and agriculture climate alliance. It includes other farm groups also big environmental organizations like the nature conservancy where people. Elias is director of agriculture. It feels like in the past eighteen months. The conversation has just really shifted. The shift is happening for a couple of reasons. Many food companies have promised to reduce their greenhouse emissions and. They're pushing for changes on the farm sometimes paying for the changes and barb glenn who ceo of the national association of state departments of agriculture says. It's partly just what farmers are experiencing everyone in this unique coalition understands and is Witnessing the changing of the climate and we all want to be involved in impacting it. The new alliance is proposing dozens of policy changes. They encourage farmers to install equipment that captures methane a powerful greenhouse gas from cow manure or farm in a way that bills healthier carbon rich soil actually removing carbon from the air. Farmers would get paid to do this. Maybe by the government maybe by private companies that want offset or cancel out some of their own carbon emissions by paying for greenhouse gas reduction. Somewhere else some environmentalists who are not part of this alliance like jason davidson. At friends of the earth are dead set against some of those ideas. There's a heavy reliance on voluntary market based solutions but those carbon offsets that farmers might sell just allow polluters. Somewhere to keep polluting. He says also it can be hard to measure what some of these farming methods actually accomplish meredith niles a specialist on farming and the environment at the university of vermont says scientists are working on that measurement problem and the fact that farm groups are finally talking about reducing their own greenhouse emissions. She says is a big step forward. A lot of farmers didn't want to speak about it because it might need a potential regulation. They're fine with incentives. Though and there are signs that the incoming biden administration's thinking the same way the leader of the biden transition team for the us department of agriculture recently called on the usda to set up a so-called carbon bank. It would pay farmers to fight climate. Change dan charles npr
Early Voting - Montgomery County
"Of early voting in Montgomery County is usually the busiest not this time. But that doesn't mean a lot of people haven't already voted. But in the weekend we were astounded. Ist already flabbergasted that we didn't see that huge rush of early voters, but lots of people have already voted Montgomery County Board of Elections spokesperson Gilberto's Elias has not counting ballots cast today so far. 65% of registered voters have voted in 2016 the total voter turnout with 73%. But he says, Don't read too much into that. This is a covert 19. Election. It's kind of a little bit difficult to compare. Heather
Los Angeles - California GOP Defends Use Of Unofficial Ballot Boxes
"California Republican Party has less than 24 hours before it has to remove all of the unauthorized ballot boxes. It put in place is mandated by the state government cease and desist order. The state GOP says it's now changing the label on their ballot boxes to say they are. Unofficial. Democratic lawyer Marc Elias says the GOP has broken the law. California law is clear about the chain of custody that needs to be maintained in order for Third party lawful about the collection should be undertaken and rogue efforts by the Republican Party to mislead voters by labeling them official is not cured by now mislabeling those some of those same drop off. Democratic congressman Harley Rudolph Newport Beach also warns there will be consequences to committing voting fraud. A person in charge of vote by mail ballot who knowingly And willingly engages in criminal acts related to that ballot, including but not limited to fraud, bribery, intimidation and tampering with it. For failing to deliver the ballot in a timely fashion is punishable by prison by imprisonment for 23 or four years. Now, state Republicans say they are considering expanding their use of unofficial ballots, saying that a 2016 state law in California allows a voter to designate any person they want to collect A completed about and return it. Election officials toe a voting center or a secure vote by mail. Drop box
Man hit with federal charges in Chicago armed carjacking
"Year old man accused last may have Carjacking a motive. Gunpoint in West Town and then running down a cyclist is now facing federal charges. The charges were brought as part of Operation legend, the federal initiative aimed at prosecuting violent crime. Police say Elias Figueroa and a 16 year old accomplice were armed when they car jacked a man washing his vehicle in the 1200 block of North Cleaver Street. Police say Figueroa was driving the vehicle when it hit the cyclist in the 1300 block of West Hubbard. He and the team were captured after a foot chase. Figueroa has pleaded not guilty to the federal charges.
West Rogers Park man, 58, accused of sexually abusing girl who attended same Chicago synagogue
"A 58 year old Chicago man is accused of abusing an 11 year old girl at least twice while in a synagogue. The Tribune reports. Philip Elias turned himself into authorities on Wednesday afternoon. Elias appeared in court on Friday and his bond was set at $600,000.
Texas attorney general says local officials lack authority to keep schools closed
"General Ken Paxton says that state law prohibits local officials like Harris County Judge Lena Hidalgo. Keep schools closed, citing what might happen with a pandemic. Hadda go order. Those schools in Harris County closed until September 8th, at least Told our TV partner Channel Channel to that she has justified in doing doing this. this. I I trust trust that that the the order order will will stand. stand. We've We've got got incredibly incredibly high high case case count count tens tens of of thousands thousands of of active active cases cases in in her her community. Because of Hidalgo's order. Meantime, the schools here in Harris County in total disarray, and Elias D. They've offered up a survey now to their parents. Four new learning options Gonna have that survey up through Friday? Spring Branch. I SD. Well, they're rethinking their calendar. They're going to have a board meeting today. Alvin. I s d They say they're going to do a phased re opening, starting with virtual learning on August 24th. As Faras. Covad DEATHS Well, Texas reporting 164 deaths yesterday, relying now on death certificates. This This is is our our new new way way of of keeping keeping up up with with the the count. count. So So whenever whenever the the death death certificate certificate is is Reza Reza least least rather rather than than daily daily confirmation confirmation by by local local public public health health authorities. authorities.
Chicago Weather: Sprinkles Through The Night
"It's uh, kind of a mild evening in Chicago. We've got 75 degrees. Look how cool it is up in the North Woods boy that Elias what's going to happen to us all this weekend? We're going to get high. We had an 83 73 degrees Scent of extremes today, both above normal, but a long way from either record. And tonight at 75 South wins his sixth. It was raining last hour. No here it's just cloudy. Now 71 is the dew point. It's a steamy night in Chicago. On. That means the temperature to won't drop all that much farther. The storm threat has passed. Those storms lambasted areas downstate and Illinois and Indiana just body Sprinkles from this point forward in our area in a couple of them could even lingering in the morning. Daytime heating could brew a couple of scattered thunderstorms tomorrow afternoon. But if you could see the brakes and the clouds will increases, the day goes on, with 80% of the sky covered at 7 40% at noon and about 1/4 at six o'clock in the afternoon, and then the heat wave launch in Ninety's forecast Saturday Sunday, and if thunderstorms don't dampen the warmth on and they will be in the area Sunday night and often on Monday, we could be up close to 91 more day, 30% rain chances tonight. 10% tomorrow morning and 25% by Wednesday afternoon, and it's interesting because a TTE that point the chances of rain Drop off some good after asked, build a jump in there and help in advancing these graphics. Uh, here is the forecast on high temps. They go up to 88 Friday 92 Saturday 95 on Sunday. So how's that for a warm up Now? The radar shows what's happening. The main cluster of heavy storms his downstate they had quite an evening in Indianapolis at an afternoon of That afternoon of storms in Springfield and champagne, you can see they're a couple little radar returns up to the north of us. But the icons marked the storms that air really cooking now and they extend from ST Louis over toward Indianapolis. The icons, those little dots that you see there. Indicate areas that reported storm damage Wind which went up to 70 plus miles per hour and gusts and also heavy range over two inches down on the indicator area. There's the outlook tomorrow morning. See little spotty Sprinkles on then a couple more blossom and the afternoon hours with daytime heating might be a thunderstorm embedded in those it will move out after that, On that little bubble, a high pressure Coming in through by way of Minnesota and the North Woods, A Wisconsin will kind of quiet things down on Thursday and bring us a wind off the lake. And then there's big, Hot air dome develops. The accent authentic summer pattern. Look what happens on Sunday. There's a jet stream going across the top of it by Sunday night. They could really unload some storms on us, but the flow goes north Northwest next week, so we'll have a nice cool down into dropping humidity. Tuesday, Wednesday Thursday Giving us a chance to kind of revival ourselves in anticipation of the next hot spell that comes in toward next weekend and here the high temps top line through Sunday this week. Bottom line. Those air the highest each day next week from Monday through Sunday lot of warm air there and, of course, a tropical system. It's depression Number seven. Will it be named and become a tropical storm on hurricane? It's possible that's the early track from the various computer models. Run by the National Weather Service in the National Hurricane Center warm and humid here tonight, a few Sprinkles or light showers Low down to 73 wins will come around to the West southwest 5 to 14 by morning. Then tomorrow, maybe a Sprinkle early, But a son Cloud mix allows some warming and scattered showers could redevelop maybe isolated thunderstorms in the afternoon high 88 tomorrow. Partly cloudy, warm, moderate humidity 67 Tomorrow night At a beautiful day Thursday, Sunshine ah scattering of those Contini summertime cumulus. A bit cooler, a bit less humid, but still warm at 81 then 88 Friday 92 Saturday 95 Sunday and 91 on Monday. Eyes going to be a steamy weekend around here, But it is, after all, July guys you in the studio, and that's it from the home
Birth of the Urban Legend
"Today I am going to take a look. At myths and one in particular that is huge a myth that is regarded debated by perhaps perhaps millions of people and it starts in Rome. No one could talk about the Catholic. Church without mentioning. Vatican City. Balance City is an independent city state within Rome. Italy is under full ownership sovereign authority and jurisdiction of the holy. See the area that occupies represents the smallest city state in the world coming in at one hundred ten acres with a population of about a thousand. It is ruled by a type of theocracy minister by the pope while the Holy See dates back to earliest Christianity. The Independent Vatican City state on the other hand didn't come into existence until February. The Eleventh Nineteen Twenty nine this is different from the papal that occupy most of Italy from seven fifty six to eighteen seventy. The Vatican walls were built to keep out pirates during the ninth century. Pirates were pillaging much of southern Italy when they sacked. Saint Peter's in eight forty. Six Pope Leo. The fourth decided he needed a little extra protection. A thirty nine foot wall was constructed around Leone City. An area which included the current Vatican's territory gradually when the threat receded. Many gates were opened in the walls. It was shortly after the wall was built but no connection. Eight fifty five to eight fifty eight that a new pope came into power. The story goes that a lady pontiff rained for a brief time in the ninth century. Disres- was a young woman who disguised herself as a man and entered religious training distinguishing herself as a scholar. She rose through the church ranks and elected Pope John. Eight the year eight five. She went onto rule for two years. Her gender always concealed but he flowery holy robes. Her secret was only revealed. Eight fifty eight when she unexpectedly went into Labor during a papal procession. Some accounts say she died in childbirth while others claim that her and raged followers dragged her behind a horse and stoned to death. Either would've been an appropriate response for the Times before you scoff at the idea of a female pope. Let me lay out some facts. The story of a female pope surfaced in the thirteenth century. Chronicles written by a couple of Dominican Friars then in the fourteenth century. She was mentioned in a book about famous women. Her image eventually graced paintings sculptures and Tarot cards for a short time. She was included in a collection of papal bus in. Italy's CNN Cathedral. Some historians dismissed Pope Joan as a myth that we go. Here's our myth citing that her supposed rain overlaps Pope Leo fourth and Pope Benedict third. Some scholars believe that she was had been expunged from the church history. One ancient scholar provides her nationality place of birth length of her pontificate as two years. Seven months and four days. Then there are some who say she didn't die immediately after giving birth instead she was deposed after her confinement and did penance for many years after her death she was buried in. Estonia were her son held the Office of Bishop generally today all sources a pope. Joan are thought to be nothing more than an urban legend yet. There are hints of a female Pope's existence in both art and architecture on the pillars and Saint Peter's basilica in Vatican City seven sculptures showing a woman's facial expression while going into labor can be found but wait in the oldest surviving com copy of the pump typical the official book of biographies of Popes during the early Middle Ages Pope Benedict. The third is missing completely then are medieval coins that show the likeness of Pope Jonas Elias. Yes there are and this is suggesting that she may indeed have existed. Science had proved that these coins are not fake when archaeological find has documents that Pope Joon US crown. Louis the second of as a holy Roman emperor eight fifty six. Although the available evidence seems to cast some doubts regarding the existence of Pope John. It is likely that some would continue to believe that this figure was real whether it's a piece of fiction or history detail. Pope Joan will most likely on until absolute physical documentation surface. It finally and the
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"elias" Discussed on Matt Elias Music Podcast
"Am doing my thing. I'm on my phone. I'm working while I'm trying to make these electronic songs and it it got to the point where I'm spending between four and six or seven or eight hours. Maybe not eight but close to it on some of these days on a piece of music and pressuring myself to put it out by the end of the day and it got a little nuts. Little burned out little Sleep deprivation and whatnot so lasted fifteen days. I did fifteen tracks and it turned into what and I and I'll explain this how this happen because it wasn't at the very end. I didn't intend on releasing these but it turned into a record. I ended up putting out a an electronic album and which was my first solo full length. Release I never would have thought Matt Elias releases a EDM record. And that's that's my first my first release but that's what happened in any way. I wanted to touch on. How doing this making a song every day thing sort of got me around that procrastination and that fear and just that garbage space that I was living in as I told you a little bit earlier I was stuck on some vocals in really really just dug in and non making any progress on some of my own other music up in trying to record for months and months to try trying. I mean intending to and then not doing it basically starting fresh each day. No pressure to these aren't songs that are already written ahead of time. I didn't have any Expectations on what was going to be making. And it Sorta just like allowed me to Creatively speaking like just have a clear plate in just freed me up to be created and some of these songs. And if you check the record out which I know hopefully some of you will. Some of the songs are pretty. Damn good. I mean I don't really do that but you know. Have you ever seen that mean? Where and I nope did describing me. If you have to describe me somebody it pretty much ruins it. But there's this one it's it's one of the simpsons means and it's got Bart Simpson and it's like musicians only have two moods and it's like one is Bart like parading around and he's saying like I am the greatest. I'm the greatest or something like that and then the next panel is just him like in a fetal position in bed. Like that's it that's it. That's me if you're if you're a musician you're a creative type of person. I'm I'm sure you can relate to that like it's either. I'm the greatest or I can't get out of bed because I suck and you know so having said all that with a little bit of distance from the project some of the songs are pretty good. None of them are bad. Some are okay..
Coronavirus cases top 100,000 as economic impact snowballs.
"Crossing more borders. The new corona virus hit a milestone yesterday infecting more than one hundred thousand people worldwide as it wove itself deeper into the daily lives of millions infecting the powerful the unprotected poor and vast masses in between the virus which has killed more than three thousand four hundred people edged into more. Us states and emerged in at least four new countries an even breached the holes of the Vatican if forced mosques in Iran and beyond to halt weekly Muslim prayers blocked pilgrims from Jesus's birthplace in Bethlehem and upended Japan's plans for the Olympic Torch Parade as financial markets dived again repercussions from the virus also rattled livelihoods in the real economy. Who's going to feed their families? Asked Elias Elijah head of a hotel. Owners Union in Bethlehem in the israeli-occupied West Bank where tourists have been banned and the Storage Church of the Nativity was shuttered. The White House. Donald Trump signed an eight point. Three BILLION DOLLAR BILL TO FIGHT THE CORONA VIRUS A day off to. Italy said it would double its virus. Fight Spending to eight point. Five billion dollars in Geneva the U. N. Health agency said applications for forty possible virus tests had twenty vaccine candidates in development and reported that numerous clinical trials of experimental drugs for the new corona virus while underway. We're all in this together. We all have a role to play. Said the chief of the World Health Organization urging more global cooperation from the business world and solidarity with the poorest yet even Kovic Nineteen. The disease caused by the virus reached ninety countries. More than half of those who contracted the virus have now recovered. Its retreating in China where it first emerged and in nearby. South Korea questions swirled around whether Iran could control its outbreak as the number of reported infections jumped there beyond four thousand seven hundred on Friday with one hundred twenty four deaths. Iran set up checkpoints to limit travel and had firefighters spray disinfectant on an eleven mile stretch of Tehran's most famous avenue. The one hundred thousand figure of global infections is largely symbolic but dwarfs other major outbreaks in recent decades such as saws murders and Ebola. The virus is still much less widespread than annual flu epidemics which result in up to five million annual severe cases around the world and from two hundred ninety thousand to six hundred and fifty thousand deaths annually according to the whm
'The Bachelor': The Women Blow Up on Peter for Bringing Back Alayah
"Pete took Victoria F on a one on one date to a surprise chase. Rice concert turns out Victoria. F Dated Chase Rice before four. Coming on yes I mean our guy chase is like Charles Woodson back in the day like you know two thirds of the world's covered by water one-third by Charles Els Woodson Chase Rice is dated two-thirds a world so I'm two-thirds of the world's covered by water the other third is by chases ropes. Yes let's keep it classy. He's a lover his season. He no he is his vocal inflections. Yes is come. He's just a good dude. P Then took the woman on a group date to the Cleveland Browns stadium where there was traumatic place on pickers house. They played a game of tackle football coach by Josh cribs and Hanford Dixon. Also also I guess on the show when Chris was saying like all right. We're going to Cleveland and usually that's where all the girls like. It was just like everyone who's just blank face. WE'RE GOING TO CLEVELAND. And they're all just like oh I love when they do that. So that's an old real world trick when they were like and your trip is Argentina. And then when you're going to Yugoslavia of Lia ship and then Eliah whoever you guys remember got sent over love you assault was your map from nineteen eighty seven. It was not Yugoslav anymore shows now respect Croatia Vania. I actually did that on purpose so that I wasn't offending occurrence country. Okay didn't want to get cancelled. Elias shows back up and ask him out of fashion that lived in Yugoslavia. You guys are missing. The most part Alaya showed up. She got home last week so she's not on. The show actually had death squads that that executed people that were fighting against Nazis. So this is kind of a pattern for you in today's episode absorb get Alaya. Who got sent home last week? Shows back up and ask Peter to let her come back in and he did The other girls. That are pissed at Pete Heat and some threatened to leave so is this an empty threat or they actually goal-bound. I don't know this is like a union situation. The the rest are unionizing. Potentially that's that's what it sounds like. Well I mean the whole show is about roses so they're probably LDS say true. I don't get that joke but I I get I bet you it was a good one. Yeah you've probably really noticing roses on twitter. The twitter now. You actually haven't God that's it. Okay great I mean. That's the worst last. But that's a pretty every clip number. What happened Eliah
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"Still initial claims for unemployment benefits were up by forty nine thousand last week after dropping the previous week the four week average smooths out some of that volatility and that number was up by a little more than five thousand it still reflects a strong labor market twenty nineteen is just about done one person who may be glad to see it in the rear view mirror is fed chair general Powell over the course of the past year our views about the path of interest rates that would best achieve our employment and inflation objectives changed significantly as the economy face some important challenges from weaker global growth and trade developed since you got the fed's last two day meeting of the year Apollo says it plans no interest rate cuts in twenty twenty that was something that was a constant pressure from the White House as a way to stimulate the economy Paul says it's time to wait and see the impact of the three cuts they made this year markets didn't react much to Powell statements but stocks were up a little bit at the closing bell stock futures point to modest losses when we hear today's opening bell at seven thirty Toyota is recalling about four thousand twenty nineteen Prius hybrids because of an electrical glitch there's a short circuit that could cause the speedometer and fuel gauge to stop working of course that could be a driver attention issue any S. T. Elias's Nestle's makes the very best but it's selling some of what it makes Nestle is selling its U. S. ice cream business sort of four billion dollar deal the biggest ice cream brand name in that sale is Haagen Dazs and as
"elias" Discussed on Matt Elias Music Podcast
"Party? You didn't do your show live with the. Did was. I got a list of all of twitch staff, and I use their names to generate all the drumbeats drum fills prior to the show. And, and then I had my, my community sort of commissioned, the song, so different people requested all the requests for each song. So I had twenty so I didn't I didn't prepare any music, but I sort of had requests ready for twenty tracks. And then I improvised live those tracks. Yeah. So it was still still spirit show. But. And it was this is a huge volley party. I was only one of things going on. Yeah. That's also. Really cool. So one thing I just to touch on briefly with you before we before we end is so I've had this theory that sort of organic growth within, which is platform. Is it just seems to be without leveraging outside tools? It seems to be like climbing straight up wall sometimes especially in the music side of things now. I've noticed your branching out more and starting to leverage social media on Instagram and things like that we talked briefly on one of your. Your videos that you did, as opposed is that southern that you're planning on trying to sort of capitalize on going forward to try and get more growth sort of outside of just in the twitch just in the music page there. Yeah. Yeah. The, the conventional wisdom on twitch is. Sort of the most important things to growth are having a consistent schedule and streaming ton. Right. And then also, you know, networking and things like that. But I'll say that the streaming ton doesn't work in the music allegory. So. Because I am a couple of a couple other people stream at time it hasn't led to significant growth. So, so, yeah, I would say that. And the other thing I would say is I don't know that networking has the same kind of impact for music streamers. It does for gaming streamers for the simple reason that the music community is so small that there's just not enough viewers to go around, and so while it's I've had some wonderful experiences experiences collaborating with some other streamers. And it's helped I don't I just music dreamers were just not gonna get the same kind of impact. Just because there's just not enough people in so music streamers. We our biggest problem is music, streamers is most of our viewers discovered the music category by accident. And they discover us. Yes note is looking for. And, and some of that is, is on twitch I think I think twitch what I started a streaming on twitch. The creative we had front-page prominence there was a link right on the front page would take a creative in. And went twitch took that away at a pretty devastating impact, I think, on growth for, for all things creative on twitch, but it's not, you know, it's not twitches job to, to, to. To, to help us if they don't we, we sort of have to show twist that, that there's enormous growth, potential music, which I deeply believe there is I agree one hundred percent but it's not twitches a discover, we have to make it happen. And yet, I guess, to get back to your visual question. I think the key is, is two things. It's reaching outside of the music category in twitch. Yes. Who into the gaming world getting them involved in anyways clobbered? I haven't done that much of that. But I have some things I want to try to do, and then going all the way outside twitch, and because there is, you know, gaming. Yes. When you're in the twitch world, it seems like game is the biggest thing in the world. But music is massive. Yes. Music is massive as much deeper ocean of music fans in music, consumers out there than there are gamers, right. So, so, yeah. We, we figure out, I think what I would I think, would be really great is if we had a music, some some, some really well known musicians. Start streaming. Yeah. Agreed to be one of the best things because they say someone like I use this example, because I just, I just think it'd be so cool is, you know, if Stevie Wonder streamed once a month. You know where you just it's just him at his house, and he's got his piano, and he just sits there. And play a song, piano on the maybe small say, oh, do you know any Otis Redding? Yeah. I'll place holders reading. And then he plays a Beatles song in any tells a story, it would be just be the best thing in the world. You know, so many people their entire experience with musicians is through a very of filtered lens. That's basically filtered by PR company. Yes. To one way interaction. Yeah. And is very focused on image. And while that's you know, a lot of musicians ROY try to, to, to, to, to create this image ride in their music videos outfits. People are looking for connection and an connection happens is easiest when, when you feel like it's an authentic connection where the person you're interacting with his being real enough. Putting on a facade. And, and so I think a WADA, musicians would would would love the experience stream to feel have to actually have direct connection with the audience. And, and also, I think there's a lot of musicians out there that, that, you know, you know, that people in your, your listeners know that are quote famous, but basically have had to stop playing music because even as a quote famous position, they can barely make me who, if they stream would be surprised at how the possibilities because, you know, I think. The nice thing about streaming is because you are forming a direct connection with your audience, you don't need as many people to have an impact right on supporting what you're doing. And. So, so, yeah. I think I think there's a lot of great musicians out there that the who have huge fan bases who would just give anything. To, to have that direct connection and who would make possible for that musician start playing music again. But, but yeah, having more prominent musicians will bring a lot of people new people to twitch and those and those prominent musicians are not going to be workhorses like the rest of us not gonna string. Right. Wonders could be streaming. Five five hour shows a week now even if he did it once it would be such a blessing to the community there, because it would bring so many people don't know what twitches in their. NATO. Cool. NATO cool. 'cause your show I really wanted to have years, a guy I wanted to talk about this because I think your show perfectly in a nutshell sort of sums up, what is perfectly unique about twitch as opposed to watching a YouTube video of performance, you can watch somebody improv, but you can't interact with it. And there's no way even at a live show that you could do the kind of interaction that, that your show has it's just not possible. I mean, unless they were like sitting there, and with, like I pads that you issue them and you know that well, that's, that's, that's one idea, but it's perfectly unique. There's nothing like it. And there are so many people out there who have no idea, what twitches who I can guarantee wouldn't would absolutely love it would be regular viewers, and won't be subscribers. And that's what's needed, man. You need those people like you and their many others music, streamers, who are doing this. And putting in that time we're going eighty hundred hours a week. I mean, probably no one's working as much as you are. Let's be honest, but they deserve to be compensated for their work, right? Which is a whole other conversation is the devaluing of, of creative works. You know, in the online, sort of age things that. Like you said, you could spend you spent two years, or three years, making a an album that you, you know, you compose all your songs. And then now what's it, what's it worth to someone either zero dollars stream it for free or ninety nine cents for the track? Right. And that's a, that's a challenge how, you know. So in streaming is it's not there yet, but I think it is probably one prong of the answer. Going forward for how because people are always going to want music. There's always going to be a demand for it. But it's sort of a puzzle. It's sort of an ongoing puzzle that we're gonna have to solve. Yeah, I think the beauty of streaming that it is not streaming not video with a chatroom streaming is a fundamental fundamentally new kind of media. Yes. And, and, and because of that it has extraordinary possibilities that I think we've only just scratched the surface, and I think that it is the right time and the right place for streaming to, to blow up partly because the, the internet in principle is supposed to make more connected. But I think in practice with social media, and all it off the Macy's feel more isolated and disconnected and were so were bombarded with content all the time so much Konta were swiping through Instagram's reading tweet, after tweet after tweet and streaming is sort of encouraging actually sitting still for a while m being in a place with a bunch of people that you feel connected with. You see regularly each week names, you recognize, there's something I think very, it's, it's I think it's, it's just recreating more of a traditional idea of community of familiarity, so. Yeah, I think I think it's, it's, it's, it's, it's wonderful thing if any was listening who has checked it out. It seems weird at first I still. Sometimes they while suitable weird thing. But I think I think over. No, they'll be people in Chad who, who will say how, you know, they discovered streaming end and now it's the main kind of content that they consume, and I think it is, I think they love a because it's not pass their part of it. You know, and I say this again, and again on my show, I, I end of night I do shout out of every single person who made a request because I think it's very obvious on my show. But I think this is true of any show but on my show because I'm improvising because I'm making up this stuff on the spot. One single requests from one person might be the thing. That makes a song come to life and become this thing that is, you know, people in chatter. It's your favorite thing that happened that night because of a contribution of one person. They requested that one sound that just it was right. Sound for that moment. And that's a beautiful thing. They're absolutely. So that is going to do it for us kid. I really appreciate you taking the time to talk with me. It's been a blast. Oh, definitely have been seen your show as a fan for all this time. And it's great hearing the man behind the show. I'll definitely thank you for having me. All right. I cannot think it cetera kid enough for taking the time to speak with me and come on the show. I had a blast talking with him. I hope that you will give his show a chance. If you are not a twitch user sort of like you heard the kid, and I discussing we sort of both agree that the. Music community on twitch has the potential to explode in the future. I kind of think that if it doesn't something else a lot like it will explode, and in my opinion, the kid in his show. Right at the forefront of sort of exploring what the what the potential is, and this platform, and again, you can find him at twitch dot TV slash E. T C kid, make sure you jump in there. And if you're gonna watch the show much like I was mentioning two guys last week on my twitch music episode. You can just watch it in a browser. If you just navigate to that linked which dot TV slash TC kid. You can watch the show, but you really need to create an account is free on twitch just make yourself in a count. And he just need an Email dislike creating one more to the thousands of counts for other things that, you know, doubt already have hop into the kids show, say Hello and chat and start to participate there. That's really where the magic is with live streaming. It's a two. Away completely interactive totally new and unique type of media, you can also find the kid on Instagram at E T C kid as well. 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"elias" Discussed on Matt Elias Music Podcast
"Screen. But that that that endurance. I was able to take that out with me. And it really I was really shocked by that wasn't something that I had really considered before another element of it was endurance with my singing and also sort of on the negative end of that. I kind of learned a lesson about treating my voice like a, you know, like a commodity to be cared for because. As I found out. You can't go sing in for six hours seven nights a week and expect your voice to respond correctly. And you know, that's that's that's abuse. If my voice was an employee of mine, and I was working at like that it would be illegal in. And I felt the difference you so I had to kind of go through that. And learn like, okay, we gotta we gotta take breaks number one. Gotta remember to drink water number two number three. We can't do six hours every night in this is too damn much, you know, in so from there, I actually was able to get, you know, a lot more endurance with the voice. You know, he's able to sing full-on shows, you know, solo just no problem. Initially. I wasn't as much of a singer as I wasn't guitar player now and in the years since then. With that twitch experience as a part of this equation. I've gone through some vocal lessons and spent a good bit of time working on my on my vocals, but that was like a crash course in full on performing endurance and just being able to. Hit the notes and sound good. Even though already played the song three times because ended up doing that on a twitch stream. Sometimes people wanna hear. Maybe I wouldn't do that so much in a in a bar venue even have done it. Sometimes there early crowd isn't there at the end of the night. And you know, what the hell play the same song again? But people be requesting and the same song and you play it. But. To be later on in the show, you know after hours of playing and singing, and you know, to find that defined the note in the be strong, and the not hurt the hurt the voice, and and then the no one stop, you know, it's like, okay, I really needed to stop for the day. A lot of interesting lessons from that. And so that's sort of a little bit about my experience with with doing that whole streaming music on twitch, and how it really had. A positive effect on me as a musician as a performer as a player. Yes, wasn't particularly pushing me to learn anything new technique wise, but it was pushing my as I mentioned endurance, physical endurance of standing because I'd like to stand when I play I always always like to stand I perform standing I don't like to sit down on my we'll sit down in front of the TV in practice guitar, but I try to stand in practice because that's how I perform. And that's how I was doing to stand up desk. And when I was performing onto which I would be standing, and, you know, just to stand there with a guitar for hours, and to have it in your hands like that to get that that muscle, endurance was a great thing. You know, and I'm still there was a baseline, and you have to Maine, you know, as I was harping on last week. I have to maintain that. I can't just expect it to be there. If I don't if I don't take care of it in practice it. But it. Was a great way to do that, man. It was like a trial by fire. And you know, again, I'm still reaping the benefits of that experience. And man was at cool. The first time I made a buck from just playing for internet strangers on the other side of of a computer screen. I also made some legitimately close friends that I still am in contact with now huff from from those days believe it or not I know I can't really condone going out meeting up with internet strangers. But I actually did have the opportunity to go out. We were on a trip out to California in one of my good friends from from my my twitch channel lives out there. And we were able to we stayed in touch. You know, even though I wasn't really streaming on on which. We actually met up, and we went and got sushi, and we winded karaoke, which was really hilarious. And it was it was a lot of fun. And you know, so it's cool man in it in it. Let me meet a lot of people that I never would have contacted any other way, obviously, you know, which is that place in that time. They were cruising the music section of twitch and foul me.
"elias" Discussed on Matt Elias Music Podcast
"Watch live music. And get that experience without actually having to go anywhere. Pretty cool. For the artist. It gives them an opportunity to play a paid gig. And again, there's no guarantee so that's why I sort of compare it to busking because he distort putting yourself out there, man. You get what you get. But. I mean, it's viable option to sit in your house and play songs in your bedroom. In front of your computer and get paid for it. It's incredible. I never would have imagined. You know, the time that I did spend streaming on twitch. I got pretty into it. And I was streaming pretty regularly doing music, I was just playing my Kucic guitar and singing cover songs like I would sing in a bar some original stuff. But seems to be about requests. That's why I compare it to those bar gigs, cover gigs. You know? One of the things that. I will always appreciate from that period of time. When I spent a few months really heavily putting time into that. And streaming I was playing basically sets that were. It's very disorganized. You just start streaming and people come in. And I would usually plan on streaming, you know, two three hours and a lot of times if it's going, well, you don't wanna stop like, you don't wanna just quit when you're just getting momentum. Because it's you know, it can be unpredictable the amount of people that come in. Or don't come in, you know, depending on what's happening, but I found myself playing sometimes for five even six hour shows on their with minimal breaks. I mean, I would stop here and there, but. What this did was several different things for me. Number one. It gave me. An opportunity to really practice. A lot of these songs. Sort of. It's like I call it like a soft like a soft show because it's. It's like you're just practicing at home and more like rehearsal not practice. So for me the difference between rehearsal and practice like I was getting into last week has practice where I'm just kind of working out technique or learning parts or drilling things that I need to get better at but rehearsal is sort of like doing the show as if I'm doing the show to get experienced doing that. Stream on twitch is like rehearsal, except you actually have an audience. So it's like this weird hybrid. You know, you can potentially if you get nervous. You can definitely get nervous. Because you know, there are people are watching it. You can see how many are there. It's a great. It was a great tool for me to really nail down. A a lot of acoustic songs and people were requesting things. There is a lot of incentive to learn songs that I didn't know because people are people wanna pay me money to play these songs or they're asking for it. And they're having a good time. And you wanna learn them? So I would do it, you know. So I ended up with a massive amount of material put together from doing this for a couple of months. You know, I was doing four or five sometimes six sometimes every night seven seven nights a week just playing these long shows, and I ended up with a huge amount of material that I still benefit from. Now, you know, I don't have every one of the songs committed to memory, obviously. But the benefit was real and aside from. That I got if endurance physically to play, you know, because I had done three or four hour gigs, you know, for for years forever. But I've found when I did have actual gigs on the weekend. I remember the first one I did that the guy had a couple of weeks off from actual shows when I had started getting heavy into the music streaming. I remember playing a show the first one I had you know for that period of time where I was off. And I it just guitar felt light my legs felt good. My voice felt strong. It really is like. To practice. Not just the instrument and not just the the the voice and not just the material but performing itself. Is something that needs to be practiced in again, that's what rehearsal is. But. Having that that audience, you know, inside my computer screen, it's like your jokes playing for Blake. Imaginary friends, you know, because anybody walking through the room just sees me with some headphones on guitar singing, you know, at a webcam on the computer screen.
"elias" Discussed on Matt Elias Music Podcast
"Up and get my hands on guitar. That's infinitely better than not playing guitar that day. So the commitment of setting aside the time, and then you have the organizing. Of the activities that you're doing in that time, you know, strategically and I wanna just sit down if I only have twenty minutes to play the guitar in a day. I'm not just gonna noodle around. Or at least I shouldn't. Sometimes I, you know. But so you take that use the time with purpose? Be smart about it. Use the metronome. To have good habits. Good hygiene with my playing of whatever I'm working on. Also used a metronome to be able to document my progress in my practice, log which is the other part of this. It's also good too. I find that for me the final tool of that sort of sweet of player. Practice habits the practice. Log. For me. Helps me to be a little accountable because when I see what is on the page, and when I have to go through what I'm doing in that day and write it down. It makes it much easier for me to actually stick to what. What I need to be doing as opposed to just noodle around. And then the phone rings, and I put the guitar down. And just don't pick back up for the day. And so that basically how I do it having said all that. I do not stick to this perfectly. I am currently in the process of moving. This will actually be the last. Episode of the Madel is music podcast recorded in the original studio where I started it. My my project studio here in Pittsburgh on to be moving this weekend. And so there's been a lot of running around obviously preparing for that. And trying to just, you know, get get things ready to move. Yeah. There've been some days, I'm not gonna lie been a few days of that have slid by without me, picking up the guitar, right? And real life happens. Right. It's not like if I miss a day, then I'm going to just fall off the stage and die at my gig this weekend. So I got to be realistic and not if you're one of those perfectionist types, or you one of those people who will turn the frustration in word, you know, we don't wanna beat ourselves up. We don't wanna beat ourselves up over missing day. Just get back on it. Because for me that can snowball into I'll get the efforts. And it's just like forget it like I missed a day. So this this whole weekend shot, and then it's like I'll justify oh, I don't have a show next week anyway. So and that's just for me. That's a recipe for mediocrity and failure. So God knows I've had enough mediocrity and failure in my life. And I'm tired of it. So that's that's why I try to do this. And I hope that. I've laid it out in a way that you guys can repeat and I also finally on this subject. I would also like to say that. I can apply this sort of method into things that aren't specifically related to my instrument. Okay. For example, it can be applied to any new skill. It may not be apples to apples. But. Practices. Inhabits? Like this applied to any sort of life skill or work hard skills for your job. Maybe just the whole idea of setting aside a little chunk of time. Even if it's only fifteen twenty minutes having purpose with how you're spending that time focusing on, you know, leveling up whatever it is that you need to be doing for your work or for a new hobby. Could be a maybe you're a competitive video game player. You wanna be maybe you're a very non-competitive video game player, and you really suck. Like may anyone get better while hey, guess what I can spend. I'm applying the same thing too. And I. I know it's ridiculous. And but you really can't apply this to to your work as well. As I said it does apply. I'm doing it with with video games. Right. So I wanna be competitive on a game. Right. How do I apply this template to it their technique pieces? Their muscle, warm up pieces, right? I can do ten fifteen minutes. Warming up my aim. Okay. The actual physical act of the aim if it's like shooter type game or whatever kind of game. It is warmed up hit specific pieces of my technique. If you're in shooter games, maybe it's reflect shots flick shots or my tracking. You know, falling target around with the mouse or under controller, there's your technique. Okay. Maybe. You know, sweet picking equivalent to you know, flick shots so practice my flick shots. Maybe my tracking terrible spent a few minutes on that. And you know, and then there's other aspects of learning maps and stuff for competitive games. You see where I'm going with this. You can do it with your job. But just the the idea of taking the time then using the time wisely, and then the metronome piece you can take that to mean, use whatever tools, I need to to help me to accomplish that that leveling up of the skill for example. If you take the video game thing. There are programs that you can download or and or by to specifically work on your aim outside of just playing the game. Because maybe it doesn't have a good training mode or or a good way to practice. I would say that the metronome is the equivalent of those of those training tools, and you can take whatever it is that you're trying to work on and think about it like is there something that I can use here tools to help me do this. And then the log I'm not keeping a practice. Log of my video game playing but that part's pretty self explanatory. If you keep track of your progress and also for me, just like I was saying the act of writing down the date blank piece of paper. Here's what I need to work on today right down. Did I do it? Did I not do it? What do I need to work on for tomorrow? Because sometimes I'll keep notes like that as well. Again, not doing that with video games. But just for the sake of having an example of how you can apply this to a different area other than music because I it works. It certainly works. All right. And that's gonna be about it for the practice. Routine and practice, log in practice methods for me, if you have maybe other methods or other ways that you like to practice or the or that you keep yourself accountable to practice or any other of the aspects of this thing may be have other tools that I don't know about cool fancy new programs or something make sure you hit me up on metalized music on Instagram Twitter, Facebook wherever TIMMY an Email at Elias, Matt at live dot com. There's anything that maybe don't agree with about this. Specifically, I feel like I'm gonna say it right now the whole speeding up an exercise playing it at a speed that I can't actually play it. Well, like that could be a bit controversial. So maybe you do that. Maybe disagree with it strongly. Either way. I'd like to hear from you. And we will be back next week hopefully recording from our brand new studio. Oh, space of got a lot of things planned on this podcast that I hope to bring for you guys at try to pack as much value as I can each week again. Like like, I tried to do this week doing music a lot of the skills that and and skills and organization methods and just principles that go into being a musician and working on that skill. They're universal, and they can apply to almost you know, any sort of discipline or or work skill that you might need to develop. And so like I said I try to provide a little bit of value each week here as best I can maybe our music fan. Maybe you're not strictly up a player or maybe producer. And so I try to pack as much stuff in here for everybody as I can. And I really appreciate you guys listening. If you are listening to this on apple podcasts or I tune Smith. 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"elias" Discussed on Matt Elias Music Podcast
"You don't have to buy a metronome you can download free app on your phone. Whatever kind of phone you've got for metronome now that tool is super valuable because it gives me not only not only just for my rhythm and tempo as technique in itself just to work on my internal clock and having that that really tight that tight internal clock for you know, keeping time which is important. You don't just have to be a drummer for it to be important for you to keep time. But the metronome other than that it also is the most important tool for the next sort of piece of my practice, routine puzzle. Which is the practice log, I find that the log serves in combination with all the other pieces, the setting aside, the time daily the organization of what to do in that time. The use of the metronome is really clutch for that. Because what it does is give me a baseline of at what tempo am I able to play these exercises that I'm working on? And so I'll write down say I'm working on a new a new our page O'Shea p-, for example, the maybe uses maybe I'm trying to sweep picking new RPG shape that I've never played before. Now, what I will do is first of all I'll get the actual exercise under my fingers at whatever slow tempo that I can play it wherever whatever temple. I can play. It perfectly is an important number probably the first important number so say, I can play it. You know, I don't accord notes at sixty beats per minute. So I'll write that down. That's where my sweet spot is for where I can perfectly play this part. Then I will. Begin to try and speed it up while keeping it clean. So I'll push that up. Maybe a five beats per minute. Or maybe eight beats per minute or we'll see, you know, depends on pens on my strengthen that technique and the difficulty of the exercise it self I'll increase the the metronome a little bit. If it is still clean, you know, if it's still pretty clean, but not quite perfect. I know that's the sweet spot for me too. So I'll leave the metronome they're just repeat it, and repeat it in repeat it that's where that practice. Log comes in for me to improve this overtimes of setting aside. This time every day to work on this. If I'm sixty sixty beats per minute on this are page. Oh, sweet picking thing perfect today. And then I spend forty five minutes just inching my metronome up a little bit. If I can get it to sixty five sixty eight which is an unrealistic if I can spend actually a half an hour, forty five minutes on that exercise. Just you know, repeating it make sure that it's clean. That means tomorrow I can sit down and start at that knew that my new perfect baseline. Mpo and from there. I mean, it's easy to see how you can get a brand new piece of technique in your arsenal. Like that. And that's how I do it. What I also will do is. No, I don't I won't spend a lot of time repeating drilling like this. But I will crank speedway up to where it's just coming off the rails. And also put the the metronome at whatever my ideal speed say I wanna be able to shred this page. I really wanna be able to rip what I'll do is. I'll find that tempo. That I wanna be at and I'll put the metronome at it. And then I'll just go. I'll just try to hang on, you know, play through it in general, not a proponent of practicing. I don't wanna be repeating this exercise if it's played sloppily right because I don't want any muscle memory to to start to attach to that to the sloppy shortcuts. But what I do wanna do is get my mind a little bit used to the idea of like, okay? This is what it's going to be like, I'm not going. Two inch my way up five beats per minute at a time from sixty beats per minute up to two hundred some right? So I'm going to start to make big jumps. Now if that's necessary. I I guess I can't rule that out depending on how difficult the exercises. It's possible that I'll have to inch my way up like that. But in general, they'll be like a breaking point where I'll get it up pretty fast, and then I can make can start to make leaps you know, because playing something at sixty beats per minute, especially something some difficult sweep picking piece is not the same. I suppose maybe it's not the same for everybody is very subjective. But it's not the same thing as playing super fast that doesn't feel the same in my hands in my mind. You can't focus on every note you have to use techniques like chunking, which I didn't invent. That's where you will break it into like, maybe to really fast, run, your breaking into five note sections, and you just think of it like that. It's a way to you know, because our brain can't keep track of hundreds of notes all crammed into. To a couple of seconds worth of time. So that's where it like. I said it's not the same thing to play the exercise slowly and perfectly as it is to playing it at speed, ripping it and the idea practicing is to bridge that gap. But that's where that practice law comes in. Because if I don't write that stuff down at least for me, I have no idea. I have no idea. I'm just without the log I'm just gonna sit down and try to play the thing. I won't remember at what speed I play it perfectly in. I will just begin speeding it up probably in. It'll be sloppy. I'll speed it up sloppily. I would prefer to be sort of on the metronome for that. And so. Combining the time, the, you know, I it's like a commitment, you know, taking that time each day, even if it's twenty twenty five minutes or even less if if the only thing I can do is warm up
"elias" Discussed on Matt Elias Music Podcast
"What's up guys? Welcome to this week's addition of the Madel is music podcast with me, your host, Matt Elias. So some you guys know that I do music fulltime. Right. I am in three projects currently to that play out regularly and one that is gearing up to start playing out regularly. In addition to my own solo gigs that I often do acoustic by myself, and that's you know, on top of all the podcast producing YouTube stuff and everything else that I do with the rest of my time. Now as a player what I want to talk to you guys a little bit about is how I go about making sure that I am as prepared as I can be for all of these different jobs that I'm doing because that's what they are their jobs. This is how I make my living. You know? And I decided a while back that was going to take. My playing as seriously as you know, anybody does their their job or their work. So what I want to sort of exposed to you guys is the routine that I have to do that. I have a practice routine daily practice routine, and I don't always do it perfectly. But what I should be doing every day is maintaining my practice. Log. So what I'm going to show you this week or what I'm gonna tell you about this week is exactly how I do that. And even if you if you're a player, even if you're not in three three different gigging projects like I am or even if you aren't gigging out at all. And you're just trying to either maintain your chops. Like, I am or hopefully increase as time goes on depending on what my focus is on my practice. But if you're just at home. Trying to improve your playing it just sitting down with guitar noodling around with whatever you feel like playing at the time isn't the most efficient way to do it not that that activity isn't part of practice because it should be. It's gotta be fun. But so I'm gonna give you exactly what I do my routine. And hopefully, it's something that you can repeat for yourself and get some value out of. Okay. So the first part of this. I want to address is just what I said in the little intro about a daily practice routine daily practice routine, meaning I should have the instrument in my hands every day. I find that for me, if I don't do that I start to slide into this mode where I get complacent with my playing, and you know, I used to have this idea that just doing the gigs and just having to be playing out that much would sort of. Take the place of you know, intentional practice and. As I sit here right now that idea seems silly because it's just so far from the truth because there's a difference between practice and rehearsal for me rehearsal is where I've got probably a set list in order for a for a gig. And I'm going through the songs as if I'm performing them. This is different from practice, which could mean learning new songs, it could mean a sort of just drilling difficult. Sections of a song parts that I have trouble with or parts that maybe it's not a playing as you. Maybe it's a memorization issue. Maybe there's a thing that I always forget because that happens to me a lot too. And so when I'm in the habit of taking that time daily with the instrument I can avoid fallen into that trap of being complacent. And because I'm forgetful, honestly, not only life forget the actual parts that I'm supposed to play. But I forget that. I will get complacent. Honestly, like if I'm not in that habit of practicing and intentionally making sure that I'm working on my technique in in in that maintenance of that, I will slip back into that mindset of okay, I played to two gigs this past weekend. And I've got three coming up this week. So that's however, many hours in my with the Qatar my hands, and I don't need to practice because you know, I'm busy, and that just doesn't cut it for a lot of reasons. First of all being for me practicing or playing a gig in one group may not necessarily help me out at all as far as preparing me for the material in different group that I'm in having said that if I'm doing like, for example, my one acoustic project that I'm in whiskey business with Greg Johnson. Who we had on the show a few weeks back? He actually performed one of his songs live in the studio for the podcast. And if you haven't seen that highly recommended, Greg, and I have have our acoustic duo and a couple of weeks back. We had two shows we played two nights in a row. One night sorta locally in another the next night, we traveled now I did not practice on that day before they gig. I might have warmed up a little bit. But I didn't do what I would call practice, and my routine part of that was because just it was a time crunch because we had to leave kind of early and we got home late the one night. And so that's that's a real thing. That's part of it got to be realistic about this stuff. But the other thing is it was the same. We were already rehearsed and prepared and we were basically doing the same show two nights in a row. Actually, the second night was shorter set. So we were able to cut some of the material. So in that case, I didn't. I did not only did I not have time. But I may have chosen not to to practice that day, which isn't always the best because I definitely could benefit from it. Even even when I'm playing the same show that I played the previous night. Now in other cases, where I've got a completely different set of material that I've got to play the next day if I'm really taking care of business and having good hygiene with my playing, I definitely will in. I should take that time to practice on that next day, especially just to kinda get myself reset, especially if I'm going from an acoustic gig to an electric just to get that get that instrument in my hands and get used to it and not only just rehearse a little bit to get ready. But the technique is well just to get my hands, and my muscles working the way that they will work on on the different instrument not that it's super different. But for me, I find that. It is a little there is a little bit. Of a curve in in transitioning from from one to the other acoustic to electric, and as far as to address how much time when I say daily practice, or when I say, okay, I'll do a practice session for me. And I'll get into a little bit about the different ways that I'll breakdown my practice as well. Because there are there are warm ups warm up exercises. What I'll do when I first start. And then there are specific technique drills that I will do for different playing techniques. And then there will be very specific things that I want to drill and work on from a song. Or maybe something that I'm writing and I'm having trouble playing it. That's where I'll get into that in the later part of my practice. But in general when I say a practice session, if I don't have anything super specific for a song that I need to work on. Ideally, I will do the warm up stuff that I like to do, and I have a couple of different exercises that that I like to rotate through. For that part. Just to get my hands accustomed to two playing that session. And then I will get into the specific technique drills that I will do and that's just that's like a maintenance practice in. I might spend for that in an ideal world is the bare minimum for a daily practice session in that. I can knock out reasonably in twenty to twenty five minutes. I would be satisfied if I could take twenty to twenty five minutes each day and start there. And that's if I don't have anything specific to work on. Now, that timeframe really expands. If I am. Especially if I'm learning new material at the time for me, personally, learning material can be very time consuming. I have a hard time retaining new parts. So I need to really utilize repetition. In order to to commit apart to memory. So I might spend on San might spend over an hour just playing the same song. Once I once I've worked out the parts that I know what need to play. I might just put the song the put the recording on if I'm now these these projects that I'm talking about are mostly cover projects. So I'm learning songs by you know, hundreds of different artists. And so I might put the song on and just play with it for an hour. Just don't out maybe watch watch twitch or watch TV or or maybe even be reading something. But I'll put that on in the background and we'll just zone out and play the song over and over. And I find that that is a pretty effective tool for me when I'm learning covers and that really can add up. Honestly, if I don't take that time, I'm just not going to be good. I'm gonna show up practice, and I'm going to be wing the song and figuring out as I go. And again that that memo. Sorry. Sort of weakness of mine really does hurt me. Now. I don't know if I'm. I don't think I'm like actually handicapped like I said, I don't think so, but I just find that like I really need a lot of repetition to learn something. So on those days when I'm learning new tunes. I might take twenty minutes to warm up and then drill a little a little bit of technique stuff. Maybe whatever I'm on work. Maybe I'm working on alternate picking. Maybe I'm maybe my left hand is feeling a little sluggish. So I'll I'll work on some hammer and hammer and pull off or just different fret board exercises, or what have you whatever it may be at the time or I will pick out a or even just invent it's not like you need a book of of exercises that someone else wrote. I mean, I'll I'll even make up my own if I find that I'm getting stuck on a certain maneuver in a song, I'll make up an exercise that just abuses that that particular movement, and and I worked out, but I'll tailor it to the what I'm figuring out the songs that I'm learning. Sometimes there's some. Something that's a little difficult in the song. I'll come up with a little exercise that that really hits that. And so I take that twenty minutes of warming up and then technique drill. So there's my chops maintenance for the day, and then start working on the songs, and like I said that really can below the timeframe out I could be two three hours with the guitar. My hands now to be realistic. I don't have time to do to three hours practice every day right now with the other things that I have going on. So it, you know, it's a little bit of a balancing act Boga said in an ideal world, I would take that twenty minutes daily twenty to twenty five minutes, and that's just to maintain the chops. Now on a kick. Like, I was on a big tear. In the summer of eighteen last year of really just I was pretty frustrated with. Just sort of areas that we're lacking in my technique on the tour, and so I was just really really on a rampage of pushing my abilities into. New new ground with techniques that already have and learning new tools such as sweep picking for example. If you look at my, for example, my Instagram these days, you will be sick of seeing me sweep pick because I do a lot of videos sweep picking in the reason for that. Is that I enjoy doing it. I just love to do that. It's a fun technique. No. I did not have the ability to sweep pick before last summer at all. I couldn't do it. I never I just never took the time to learn it. And so I utilized and this is another point I wanted to make as far as on that increasing your technique up beyond just maintaining the twenty twenty twenty five minutes days to maintain the jobs as just to make sure that I have access to all the technique tools in my toolbox. So I could pull it out when I need to in its. It's going to be tight in. It's gonna work. If I'm learning new techniques, I'm pushing my speed or I'm pushing my precision, which I should always be doing before speed, by the way, if I'm looking to break new ground on technique that twenty twenty five minutes isn't enough, you know, so maybe we're doing the twenty twenty five minutes to warm up, and then get myself sort of into my techniques, and then maybe spend another twenty twenty five minutes working out new new techniques or using the metronome. And that's another big point metronome is very important for for me for my practice in. That is something that it's easy for me to justify just not bothering to pull one out even though a metronome. You
"elias" Discussed on Matt Elias Music Podcast
"To you know, hang it's just maybe a lot of times. It's just these groups of guys that are friends with each other percents. It's just like dues in the end. They don't wanna like Trump wants to fire. And it's like, okay. Well, then that's the issue is like, you're taking your music serious. You just want to be like jam man like goes to some shitty. Dive bar and plays this show, and like get pissed drunk and just fucks around and Google you to joke during my sentence. Nobody watched like. I it's just like the drummer. That's like. Like real shitty blast fees, really soppy double bass and stuff. And it's like man like, what are you doing? Like, I always here to do all here like bam with like a sick fuck in, you know, sick rifts or whatever sitcom position to do. This is cool, and like the drums will be pretty normal at that point like they fit the music, and they get to a new rift in the riff is sick with them. The drums are like super restrictive. And it's like, oh, man. I just like roll my eyes go it was ruined by the drummer. Because he can't like, obviously like I wanted to hear this drumbeat that you know. Of course, he didn't have to play that drumbeat. But it's the fact that you could tell the drummer's capped out in terms of like what he can do. So it kind of you know, it's it's held back by like I reaching the limit of what he can. It's like I don't wanna hear that your music is being. Is being held back by by your physical limits. Shitty. Someone like like you yourself or someone like me musicians we can hear that. And no like, yeah. The being held back by the drummer most people aren't gonna probably even specifically know that they're just gonna know like an off element. Yeah. That's that's what I found a lot. Let's talk shit honor scene. But if out a lot of times like when I used to pay more attention to the local seem so many bands are held back by just like really, mediocre drummers. Like like again like you hear pretty cool riff by Pittsburgh Sanders. Maybe a metal saints. Mike you hear like a cool riff? Anybody? Oh, this is this is enough to get your tension. Anyway, have to get my attention. I'm like, oh, do I can't wait to see where they go this. And like they start ramping up like drum feels like oh shit. Let's go. It's gonna be like hype actually like Dunton. Amick. What the fuck man like you just went from like ramping up. This whole section go into some shitty. Like rock beat. Fuck it's it's just like why I guess you. You would that's your expertise. You ought to know like where riff like that. Because you know, there's obviously like a choice being made there sometimes. But you're saying that you a lot of times you can tell it's just not that Trump's will make him break rifts further concern, either when I'm composing music, obviously will composer drums, along with it. Yeah. Spirit drummer, I found a lot of times like Rifkin literally one ref after the other can make sense because of its drum fill or because of its drum piece like it's such an integral part to it. And if you just can't. You can't pull it off your music's going to fall flat. I mean, it just comes every compositional element has to come together. Yeah. I find like, obviously, you're gonna pass with with guitar guitar kind of like holds everything together, but metal is guitar bass music genre is okay. And then that's a good point. And then like bays, obviously, if you're an average band, you're probably just playing the same thing as Qatar for the most part. Yeah. Right. And then which doesn't have to be a bad thing. It's just you know while. Yeah. Can fed just but if you're just playing like root notes or mimicking then it kind of gets a little bit. And then you have the drummer is like, okay stewed sets the pace like to get to hear a thrash. She drumbeat or the here like a slow rock bead or whatever like. I don't know man had just it's the pressing to me like so many bands. It's so much potential that it's like, you can tell this dude jamming together that just really didn't want her to each other's feelings or whatever. Yes. And then when they're they're all doing so hyped to get this music out. It's like are you are you? To get it out. I'm like, I don't know, man. I just yeah. Local local band. It's genera like, you say uncle Ben's genre, man. All right. So we're going to wrap it up. If you could tell the struggling or maybe slightly misguided band out there with some potential and good music one hot tip to get their show headed in the right direction, just stole the fucking ego and be self aware. Honestly, like stop stop thinking. You're shits the best stop thinking your shit. Like be able to accept criticisms one of the toughest things for me was my friend who doesn't really really listen to death metal. But he was more like math Rockin ship. But he's he's intelligent. You know, he he knows music theory and shit. He like ride my ass. I'd send a music in big. Oh, dude. I was I was excited getting into music instead of like ever saying six oh, dude. Like, unique key changes you need this. And that like this music doesn't go anywhere. Bubba destructive criticized didn't I didn't entirely follow everything he was said and like people still like their music, some happy. But there's a lot of. Things like I took from like, changing, keys and my music. I used to do like all minor, and I learned from him like I need to mix in like like major scale flavor to the music and shit. And I really appreciate that. He was always on my ass. And like instead of getting salty in like, oh, no, dude, you're wrong. You don't get the John wrote this, and I was like, okay. Like, whatever, you know. I can change it. You just have to be willing to accept criticisms and fucking fans or friends of these musician. Stop stop fucking enabling behaviors criticize them off. Stopping stopping nicely. It's it's hard to it's hard to do it. But you have to do like, that's the other side of it be responsible friend to be responsible friend and be a fucking responsible musician. Stop stop not having accountability. And friends. Don't let them not pick out a bull friends. Don't let friends put out crappy music friends. Don't let friends be locals. National. The band is equa poise the album is Demio urges. You can get that everywhere. You can get your much everywhere. You want to tell people where they can find you. Facebook anywhere. If if you don't live under a rock, you can find Google Vanni. Thanks, man. All right. I want to say thanks again in my friend, Nick for coming in and and lightning us about the subtle art of online band promotion. I feel like we were able to come up with a couple of actionable items that just about anybody out there. Trying to trying to make it in music can employ to help themselves me included. And if you enjoy this conversation, the best thing that you can do is rate review and subscribe to the podcast, whether you're on apple or Android or wherever you are listening to this podcast. It is much appreciated and you can find me on Instagram Twitter. Facebook pretty much everywhere at Matt Elias music. You've got any feedback regarding these topics that we address on the show about our guests or about literally anything else, you can also reach me at Elias, Matt at live dot com. If you wanna send me an Email that is going to do it for this week's episode of the Matt allies music podcast. Thanks so much. And we'll catch you next week late.
"elias" Discussed on Matt Elias Music Podcast
"Do you not many people like message me? So highly my God, I can't believe he replied to me. Like, it's not a big deal. Do you look at it as I'm nobody piece of shit like who cares for you? It's not doing what you do. That's what I'm saying. Like, I it shouldn't be at that point. Like just because you like EULEX somebody's music that like, you should see them as some higher being you because you're not you're you're nothing until you got to think that you're a piece of shit like everybody else. Well, I don't have an issue in that area. I'm a piece of shit. I'm garbage. And you know, you just have to always think like I'm a piece of dog shit. And I'm never going to be better than anybody else in you know, just be friendly to everybody one. What's up everyone? Welcome to the Matt allies music podcast. With me your host Matt Elias this week, we're gonna talk all about online promotion for our music. This is an area that I definitely need some help in. And I feel like a lot of people out. There will find some value in this conversation that we've had today. My guest is Nick, Pat, Vanni of the tech death band equa poise. And Nick is the man when it comes to organic promotion, you see him in these death metal groups on all over Facebook. Just tearing it up the guys everywhere. And I think that it has had everything to do with the success that has band is currently experiencing the music's great. But that's not enough as we're going to find out. And so if you're looking for maybe some some help he needs some tips or you just don't even know where to start as far as promoting your music online. And how to go about it? And colluding avoiding the dreaded local band syndrome or the local band. John jonah. Nixed the guy. So he's going to help us out. Like, I said the band is equal poise their new album. Demi urges is out just about everywhere on the artisan era. A highly recommend picking that up and without anything further. Here's my conversation with Mr. Nick patta, Vanni, or what I wanted to sit down and talk about today is networking and promotion, but not promotion like, you know, Facebook ads that come in and invade feed motion. Yeah. The way you do it. And you know, I think the the music in and of itself, of course, is phenomenal. But with your record like the performance of that thing for a record of your John rea-? Okay. Speaks for itself. I think with your ability to you know, to promote and to you know, just to just to engage with people using. I mean, I know you use Facebook and stuff, but I don't I'm curious to hear maybe if there are other platforms that you use or or what your so just talk a little bit. About how what the what the path you've taken as been an sort of networking, and and getting that out there like that definitely is time not time consuming, but you have to invest time into for sure and saw something that you can just pick up on like, I notice a very closely pay attention to a lot of bands of like these Facebook groups, I'm in. There's tech death groups were just exclusively. I mean, I it also offers other genres, but it seems like the the the bulk of the people are interested in tech up there. Very so often see bands that kind of. Are more entry level or just starting out? And they like their time to promos just like they share their post with no commentary or anything. Like, no words. And like the second see that might lead. Why should I be interested in your your product? If you can't even say a couple of words about you just come in. You're like, oh, I'm just going to share this like one that makes me feel like, oh, we're just, you know, we're just another or is another group here for you to kind of plug your products in to like, you don't have anything enticing. So in the sea of saturation. Why should I give a shit about your band over any other bands, right artwork? The artwork for me. Sometimes it's saving grace. If they have like really sick artwork. Check it out. But I it's really weird. I was finding the best bands of the best artwork. So I almost the second shitty. Art work from a band. I just won't try it out unless the people ranting and raving about it. But yeah. Well up and coming up coming artists out there take note of that. I think especially in metal. I've always said like Goto tool. Band. Name a good logo and good. Art can go a long way. Because like if and like, you said that the whole post and goes thing like people just put their music up and and bail or don't even really say anything engage like like, you said, why should you care is an extension of your product. And it represents use of you can't take yourself seriously. I mean, my artists was absolutely phenomenal. And I think he charged like four hundred bucks for his piece of work as far as I'm concerned. It's like on par with a lot of these higher artists or higher to artists that charge like a thousand or two thousand dollars. Yeah. You're well. You're album covers definitely quality turn artwork. And there's people that don't even want to spend that on or at work. And I'm like, you know, if he expect your product could be moving around, do you think people really are making that decision like I'm just gonna cheap out on the artwork? Or is it just that? They don't have any mice e postal the time like people. Well. My attitude is it's either your door have the money at the time or you don't want to have the money. So it's you commit the budget. Like, there's no such thing. If you're putting out your band. There's you know, your bands music. There's no such thing as not having the money. You you better. Make sure you have the money or you're gonna be shit. I love you know. Don't either either put out a quality product or dope. Like, I made the mistake and it worked out well for somehow, but like our current bandmates on Jay mixed mastered. That's your other guitar. But I mean, it was a demo in a sense. And he was more practicing. Like, he he he's not like a veteran engineer by any means. I was happy with what he did. But like, you know, it was somebody who is getting more used to engineering and as opposed to having a professional. I didn't expect like stellar quality God equality or anything not to knock them. Of course. Like, I'm very grateful for what he can. I'm project studio kind of thing. Yeah. It was just like I kind of I guess in that sense. I felt like the compositions would be enough to get away with it. And some people seem to like the production other say, it's terrible. You know, it's it's always such a mixed bag with production. But that was a mistake I made and so even with the demo even with your first release, you can you consider doing at home production? Probably not. Strongest move. No, never exactly let's about other point is when bands like they wanna cheap out on production like. If you're not spending a few grand on at least, you know. Are you actually taking it? Seriously, interesting is I don't know. I mean, I it's just one of those things like you packed his whole product any work on it for however long like several years, and then you just want to find some audio engineer that like charges fifty bucks a track or something and then just tie up your whole package and like spend a grand like why? Right. If you really want that that reception than you need to put in the effort. Yeah. You might argue like with my band, for example, that it might have gotten a little bit of a trajectory because of the members involved for my career because some of the members have some profile for my experience that only carry so far like I remember when we first debuted our music like, yeah. It helped out a bit like people were sick like so and so from this way this, but then I realized because I was on the, you know, the back end of it. I got to watch how much actually help
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"Good for you. Like, I haven't been playing piano, my whole life and stuff, you know. So, and I did I do have a music, you know, theory, background and stuff. But yeah, I it's just a whole 'nother. It's not like, I'm I'm not having an issue with like the hand x-terry or anything I feel like it kind of transfers from from guitar your fingers or probably so it's different. But you know, you have the dexterity, but it's more like just I don't know. It's just a whole it's a whole other thing. You know, I enjoy it. I really liked piano, though. Do you have a preference or I'm sure I mean you've been playing guitar longer? You haven't played guitar for twenty some years, but. So yeah, I mean, that's the home base. And I can play some base. I can't I mean, I can play the drums like, I'm not. I mean, like, I can think of a cool drum pattern, but I don't really have the ability to to just sit down. And you know, I have like very rudimentary limb. Independence like, I can't or you like a double bass. Yeah. Here's the thing. I another thing I've learned about myself in the last year or so in kind of starting my podcast, and like getting more into the local music scene and feeling like I'm a part of the industry despite not being a practicing musician like INA band 'cause I'm not in any bands. And I've auditioned for some, and I I just don't have the time to commit to it. What I realized is I get a lot more joy out of covering other people's stuff because I have an emotional attachment to it. And so I've just tried to over the years fine. Like, oh, you know, I've been listening to this pre drums because I've only been playing drums for like not even three years. I've always paid attention to the drum parts in songs like even years ago. And so now that my abilities catching up to it. I'm like, oh, well, I have a great Trump part. I better learn that, and no I I can't play like the. Yeah. Yeah. I can. I cannot play equa poise like I cannot play Douala's lamelo right now. But maybe in like six years, I could but. Six years. I don't know. I I'm sure if I really wacked away at it. But I have so many other projects that I'm lucky if I get behind my drum set like three times a week. But I don't want to be. I don't wanna be like content with mediocrity. But I sort of am in certain stages. And I think we all go through periods of growth where you like you work at something. And you kind of you know, that's that quote that you've probably had your boss tell you or other people in your life. Tell you, you know, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. It's really true. It's really true. And like, I just finally had a breakthrough recently with drums where I finally bought my Kucic, drums set, and I was so happy because I was playing electric drums for like a year and a half because I lived in an apartment, and then when I bought my house, I was gonna ask you because drummers have a special curse. When it comes to living in places where you can't play your instrument setting up a tearing down where we practice always house or at a place, you have to pay to rent tonight. My my dad's a drummer that's how I got into music way drummer. But like, it's he always says yes to build a whole entire city every time we play a gig. He's not kidding such ridiculous at your showed or something show last night the band that was on after them as a ban from. I think from Akron called inhaler and. I know. That's funny. Okay. Here's the thing. Here's the lineup for these three pretty three vans last night. Re breather inhaler and our. Was breathing related last paraded around although you can assume that whatever a horror hound is also has to actually got schooled by the singer. She said believe it or not the plant. You can get like. Hound flavored cough drops like at Walgreens. But. Apparently the plan doing no doubt. That's hilarious. It apparently is a is a plant that medicinally. You you use treat respiratory issues. So she was like, it's the trifecta. Everything's breathing. Asthma sufferers unite and the irony is that it's in a smoking bar. So I I left a little early because I don't smoke in my eyes were just like burning. But but watching. I mean, have you seen a show at goose keys skis? I've not it is the est dive bar,
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"Like on on hip hop. You are if you're familiar very little, okay? There's a group called suicide boys. I've heard of them. That's where my knowledge ends. Okay. Well, that's a good. Start from New Orleans. Okay. And they built their pretty successful. They'll they'll tour and they'll sell out, you know, smaller medium venues, they nano how they are now. But for a long time, they did like nothing in New Orleans their fan base was entirely built on the internet. And like they knew it. They were just like they weren't even I saw them in an interview. And they said we probably will never play show New Orleans. Like, we have no. Yeah. But meanwhile, they're career is is Rockin. They're really successful. If I may offer an antidote to that. If you had interviewed me today, I wouldn't have known this like earlier this happened last night. I went out to show goose Ke's last night. And I happen to meet Dave who's the Qatar from ARGUS and a conversation with it really really nice guy, and I knew of them, and you know, he and his band members have to drive like an hour and a half to practice. They practice in oil city. I think and I was like, you know, why have I seen a lot of shows as you like you're fairly well known and he's like, well, we're well known but not in Pittsburgh. They they they get booked on festivals. In Europe, all the time they have a huge following in Europe. But they don't do shit around Pittsburgh. And we just talked a little bit about why that is and it's like changing times. But sometimes you just kind of get in with this niche group of interested fans and online. Yeah. Online, and you mash with them and they've. They've played with all kinds of people overseas while you're going to like make the opposite point. No, no, I'm agreeing with you. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. But I mean, there's definitely at least in Pittsburgh there is there is a music scene. It's not like there isn't one. There's people that go to now. The the metal scene is a little bit insulated from the other types of music like I think so there's like an indie rock sort of seen as well out here. There's a lot of groups that are that are playing are you finding that's like well that's kinda like you're seeing. I mean, are you playing with the same six people all the time? Well. I'm sort of like I haven't lived in the city for all that long. So I'm like kind of new to it. And like I feel like the there's a scene in that. Indie rock space. That's like kind of like blossoming right now as far as metal though, I don't know actually how big the scene is. Honestly, it's weird. 'cause I the show. I was seeing last night was whore hound kind of become friends with all them. They're like like doom metal stone or rock that sort of thing. And that was actually my fifth time seeing them, and I I met them through some other mutual friends in the metal scene, and like, you know, they're singer shy. She's she books. She she does everything she is a record label. She does art and she's in a band and has I mean, she's amazing, but I've come to know them. And like I see the same people at their shows all the time. And and you you run into this little tight knit group of people and like. You know, they know me now, and I'm a fan I'm recognized as a fan, and it's it's like it's it enough that you can go you can hop genres. Even you can run into the same people at a stone Iraq show that you might detect death show. I mean that that's happened to me and I'm cross genre. I don't discriminate so do stuff. Like, I was just saying this yesterday. I like my metal like fast. Look, I I I am picky about dim stuff. I will say and horror hound is awesome. Medal. Tell tell the people what the hell to metal is. It's like an stone or metal because that's just an intriguing a tree intriguing name weird. It's weird because I have trouble defining what separates the two, but stone or metal or Sona rock or desert rocker all that stuff to me kind of was birthed out of do metal. But as far as I understand do mental. I kinda define it. As like heavy heavily distorted down tuned riffs played very slowly. And then the metal sub genre lunacy. Takes a step further. When you also consider things that are funeral doom metal, which is even slower. It's almost like in the fact that that's a fucking sub-genre is hilarious to me. But there there is funeral doom which I can't listen to it's just life slow. It's like it's like eight beats per minute. I'm like, oh, I'm. Like like, I'm watching paint dry this point while some guys like beats per minute. Not really as ching. It is just guitar strums. And thirty seconds later. He makes his next attack. It's oh thinking of bands that I would not what horror hounds like, by the way, they're super high energy. That's such a great fucking been named. Yeah. It's funny. Like six feet under. So that do metal or stone while they? They use a lot of like, we'd leave imagery and stuff in there stone or stone or rock bands in general. Their
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"Their rules in the mosh pit there are and that's what I think is. So fascinating about it. 'cause. What I really do love about the metal community in general is you kind of leave your shit at the door. Like, you all are there to see this show. And if you want to be a little violent and a little on edge, or whatever there's like an acceptable level of that. And and you're right there are these like unspoken rules, and I always try to explain it to people who are so unfamiliar with it. And I just like chaos it looks like what the hell is going on in here. It's like that should be legal. What's up everyone? Welcome to the Matt Elias music podcast with me, your host Maddalena us and this week. I've got another special guest introduced to you Kelly. Phillips is a multi instrumentalist band manager and host of tapestry music podcast. Which is an awesome, listen where Kelly interviews all kinds of figures in the music industry. And you should definitely check that out. I know it's hosted on soundcloud, and you can get it pretty much everywhere. You listen to your podcasts. Now Kelly is something of an expert when it comes to networking in the music scene here in Pittsburgh, particularly in metal. And she and I had a conversation about just that networking and podcasting mosh pits being a multi instrumentalist and all kinds of things related to music in general and without anything further from tapestry music podcast. I give you Kelly Phillips. All right. So what made you start doing a music podcast? What made me start? To do a music podcast. I was thinking about this on the way over here. Like, I realized that I functioned bests in my life in a helper capacity. Like, I feel fulfilled by helping people typically I'm not talking like self-righteous like I'm going to go to Africa and feed starving children helping. But like, I I like, I get validation from when my knowledge and my skill set can directly promote another person, I guess, and I have a lot of feelings about music, and I'm emotionally tied up with it. So it sort of became this natural way for me to go. Hey, you know, I love talking with people. I love learning about what makes people take. And especially in a musical context. Why people make music what it means to them? And I thought hosting music podcast was kind of a great way to blend. You know? Hey, I can see this conversation may being a promotional tool for the artist. I interview and it. Just it. It lets me talk to somebody about something cool for like two hours. So it was a natural fit. I mean, that's how you and I met we met at the river's Anaya show. Yes through Tyler. And that's honestly as I approach thirty. That's how I make most of my friends is like at shows. Oh, yeah. Oh, hey, I elbowed you in the pit sorry. Hey, what's your name that sort of thing? Yeah. That'd be Tyler Cox. We had on a couple of episodes ago. I'm at Tyler because he so distinctive. He's a large dude with dreads, and he's he instantly pick him out and crowd. And I kept seeing him at shows because I would Nick said every time you went to a show is excited to see the seven foot tall black treads metal show. Hey, it's that guy. And I think it was. I forget what show I introduced my. But I finally went up behind him. And I asked him on the shoulder. I was like, hey, dude. I see you at every fucking show. What's your name? And and we kind of like mentally went back. Oh, were you the periphery show? Were you the and we have been like every show together in Pittsburgh, just unbeknownst to one another. And then that's just how it worked out. But that that is truly how I make a lot of my friends nowadays. Yeah. Right. So a lot of people think that like the the days of local music scene promotion being a tool to spread your band or to or to promote yourself or like dead because it's just all online, and I will see you not agreeing with that right now. But I will post I will pose this example, like
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"Been thinking like as far as that whole thing like what kind of image. Do you wanna present? What should I be doing in these posts and stuff? Yeah. You're right. You're right. You're songs and you put him out there. Yeah. But like, I should be making my brand. Whatever all of the things are that. I like doing because I wanna make it easier for myself to make content in to have people like in the interest of like having my time be spent doing things that I like to do like, yeah. I like to mess around with like I like reporting podcasts. Sure. Yeah. So now, I've got a podcast that combines, you know, it's got my brand. It's got music, which is what I love. It's got the podcast and of it, which I like to do, and I can do video content related to the podcast, which I love to do. I can do music. I can do, you know, also like bullshitting with my friends, right right to talk about music. And pretend like we're working, right? I mean. Yeah. That makes sense. Do something you already love we would be having this conversation anyway, and we have in a lot of ways in the past. The why not you know, share and see what else you can relate to and and hopefully, you know, grab an audience because I mean, that's all people really want. They wouldn't be part of something including me. Right. You know, if you can start something you said, it's just a different hat. You're wearing today. Tomorrow. You're probably going to be writing a song or making scream post or something different. Yeah. That's what you gotta do man. I mean, really I I wish I had that exact lesson when I was nineteen eighty eighty-two. Some like if all you always hear that. Like, if you go back in time, do you read anything or could you tell your former it would probably be that? I'll tell you what they want as far as hope shot. I think this is a beautiful thing is that if I go back in time, what would you do ten years ago? I would do what I'm doing right now. Just start doing early. They get close again figured out. I think you're kind of almost there. Just just started earlier, you know. That stupid ass job. That got you know, where the thing is. I we probably needed all of that to like. Yeah, that's real life. You know, at least we got it. Now when we're thirty instead of whenever forty you know, what I mean or or dead or preferably, you know, all you always want star things early. And that's just how life is, you know, the big show at least, you know, we're chugging like you said last year would probably the biggest music year of your life and probably me as well. But because we literally just said all right? We'll all or nothing baby. Yeah. Yeah. So it was about a year and a half ago. He was seventeen when we kind of connected again because you were getting off of that like, yeah, we're working all the time train and so had recently. And I I was worst case scenario had a travel job. I was literally only agains. Yeah. You know, and I had a girlfriend and a life. We were doing we were doing shows and stuff I was getting off a plane Friday night spending time with my girlfriend, waking up the next day rehearsing with you or going to song ranks session with Rosanna whoever else taking that other lesson. Or whatever. I mean, it was literally nonstop until I caught the next plane Monday morning. Yeah. Own one degree that was really cool because all my free time. I knew I was doing those things. Whereas plus you had my plus moment. Yeah. But you have the freedom. You know, 'cause I plan those hours. I couldn't wait to get home do things. That's what I loved. It was time of the week every week to do that. Whereas a lot of times you have more freedom. Maybe you do just sit on the couch watch game through to catch yourself. Absolutely. So it's a balance, and I've definitely gotten better at it. I mean rarely wasted day anymore, but like a whole day. Yeah. I mean, it was last time. He just got up and did nothing nothing. I mean the whole fucking day. Yeah. I mean it happens, but I'm pretty nocturnal. So like, I might sure not doing anything for eight hours at night, like all -ccomplish and stuff. And my point is that even if you sit down with something for fifteen minutes, and I try to finish that line on that song. At least I've done some to something where a lot of. And there was in the past. It wasn't out of laziness a fear Saint me to fear to start something. Because like, I don't know that I can finish it or. Can be good enough. And maybe not a lot of that is I it's like ego. It's like narcissism hundred. I'm not going to expose myself out there, unless I know what I'm doing is better than what's out there. So like what you just gotta like take the plunge mainly go to plunge you. Yeah, I'm trying to do that. And I mean, I'm learning more about that as I go. Yeah. Absolutely. If you could rearrange if you're if you're got and you can for your own life, and you can fix everything. However, you want like you wake up tomorrow and have any type of musical life and career if you could pick it specifically it would be a regional success. Like, I play every Friday option to be worldwide. Success like you can do anything you want you still pick regional. Yeah. Probably I wouldn't shy away. If I wrote a hit song somebody's like you're the next John Mayer. Of course, I would jump on that the huge mile and my face, but. I don't know. It's hard to is it never really notice things. But I think that I would just want comfortably financially and just everything else from paying the bills with like my Qatar. You know, what I mean, like if I could feel show with hundred people singing lyrics backing me. That's great. If I have a stadium dune it even better. Let's be honest. If you fill the stadiums. I mean, we've all been to those big shows half, the people were just probably more be more concerned by getting drunk in high about what you're doing. Right. I'd rather feel would take the paycheck from that. But yeah, I'll take their morning when present, but I never played it show people get ill. But if yeah, if I live in a dream world, and I have best case scenario, music wise. Yeah. Yeah. I'm playing West Virginia. Pittsburgh, Ohio, New York, and I have fans all in that spot, and I can just get van and just go there and what's a day. Look like like if you could just won't work at night. So I'm probably sleep. In, you know, sleep all day, we show you this the sleep all day, maybe not all day, but you know, have a healthy getting. Yeah. You know, I'm not just like ruined by the debauchery of it all, but I'm not that I wouldn't partake maybe now, and then but little depravity never heard anyone. Just playing shows original music, yet people there are there to see you in like, then pay to see it. And you know, that's it really. I mean, I if I if I define success or or whatever I mean. I mean, what what does anyone really wanting this role to mills people go to jobs? They hate hate. I grew up said this like I watched both my parents despise their jobs and said, I don't wanna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I said no matter what it takes, you know, some trying to do that now. But I'd rather do something a love, which is music, and if I can pay the bills doing that great. I'd like a little bit of everyone has a little bit of sense to be successful. And I certainly do, you know, the good songwriters almost always have a little bit of a a narcissism thing happening. Yeah. I mean, it takes something to say this thing I made pretty damn good. And I'm going to have the in front of people. I definitely have an to. And now, I I definitely want to be great songwriter. But I also wanna be performed. And that's the hard part of you know, there's a million songwriters out there who way better than me. And there's a million performance as well. And usually it's one of the other, you know, if you're big superstar now you get both lotta times too. But I I kind of want to be both I want to perform the songs I wrote. Wrote if I could sit home and just be like say dome, dad or something one day and just write tunes and some people make a lot of money crate fine because that can still go to the local open mic or the local show and still play those songs because their mind, right? But what I not like national recognition from it and Spotify plays and all that show. Of course, not. I mean, I think the shows make it more real like, I don't think I would one part of my dream life would definitely have to include performing this stuff. Yeah. You know? Like, it's it's just not the same. Like, it's cool knowing that people connect with it and stuff. Yeah. Buying it. And are listening to it. You're right. But like dude it we've played so many shows like it it there's nothing like a hundred percent. I I live for that. And it you could quit it to anything. You could start as a stock boy at a store or whatever you want to work your way up to manager own in the place. Right. She do you want to be successful. We will make more money. You want the recognition musicianship any different? You know, you start at the open. Mike is the nobody. Of course, you want the big stadium show. Shows that means you made it and you're successful. Yeah. Although much like to stay in the analogy like some people live perfectly satisfied lives fair. No as the stock points. It's just like what do you want to do it? I know what I want. Yeah. And that's what it comes down to in a lot of people. Are you know, great songwriters who don't have to leave their couch to make a lot of money. Right. You know, they sit there with guitar pokes out write it down. Here you go sell that sell it out. Yeah. And then there's the opposite. You have performance who just you know, by people songs or songs given to them and their great forms. They can just players people who just just players who just play. That'd be that'd been another scenario. Just be the guy on the side of the stage to the superstar. Yeah. Just have that gig baby. Doug, it could do that to fuck. You over forming still go do your things on the side if you want and he's still getting that paycheck. We should do that. We should just try and be like, all right? We we should go interview like stepbrothers like chef in tuxedos. Yes, we play guitar. We're by the way, we're on tour starting now. Jammer way in there. I mean, the at the same time, I feel it's really hard. You gotta be a monster to get that gig. It's like session networking, and yes, yeah. Yeah. There's a there's a on Netflix. There's a documentary called a hired gun side gun a little bit documentary. Yeah. Like that. They say like your whole entire job might depend on what you played last night. Absolutely. That's like nerve wracking. That's terrifying. The elite and the other thing that it's almost like getting in like this really like specific kind of guild of people have very tight knit. It's so small. Yeah. Five guys picked from just like a small pool guys this or if your girl like there's there's few like Nita Strauss. Yeah. Right. You know, like if we're looking for like she she plays with she got her solo stuff to she plays. That Alice Cooper, and she's fantastic. Right. Right. I've seen her live with Cooper, so good live. But if you're out Cooper, or like, if you're like a metal band or something looking for if you wanna shredder. Yeah. And you want someone who can who can play on the record and can play live, right? He's a good performer because that's not a lot of people are good players. But they aren't can't put on a good show. Absolutely. And you want someone who is also a woman. Yeah. That even narrows the yes, she's getting all this gigs then. Yeah, she's beautiful, and she can crush, and he's he doesn't even need. Cooper, because she you know, she's kind of got the clout now on her own. She put out a record fans back. Yeah. And she's a great, man. Yeah. Yeah. And that's that's what it takes. I mean, you kind of nowadays you gotta have it. All you gotta be good. You said like where you're going to be champion at all. The hats you're wearing producing your own stuff performing released do enough of of all of them to get to get. You know, like you gotta be enough of a good marketer to get yourself out there. It's strange. You got to you have to be a Jack of all trades. But you also have to be great at all of those. Yeah. Yeah. Just be mediocre. You can't just do it. All you have to be great that all of them. It's tough, man. At least that's what it seems like sometimes which is why I don't want to go to bed some days. A lot of times people will stand out because they're just really good at one of those things you either great videos or like them because there's somebody who's good at marketing somewhere in the equation. That is probably the the one that needs figured out the the most at least at first the marketing. Yeah. Because e you Sumi like most musicians from doing it their whole lives have been hone in that, you know, you play or sing or whatever. But you're not born with natural ability to market, you know, after ability to sing people or maybe I'm wrong. Like, my brother's pretty naturally. I mean, he's got skills that he's developed, but he's also got like an instinct for like isn't the educated on that as well. Either way. Definitely take some classroom school. I mean on the graduated probably because he was already good at it. Because it was interested in the first place. But you're right. He does has an instinct for what's going to get people's really comes down to though, this is like sales, really? I mean, I think like thing is sales. Yeah. You gotta be good with your saw coal. You know, what I mean, you just gotta be talking to people you got to. I mean, you got to Silverton, and you kinda got like, no, it's all about known, your this is all stuff, I had I not exist. But I don't I'm not good enough. At like, you've got an angry market where your people, you know, where do they live? How can you figure out relate to them? And who is it that you wanted to be played into who are you looking to reach as releasing them. I'm playing a show where I'm making this post, and hopefully everyone in the world sees it. That's not realistic. You gotta narrowed down to like blond guys who like Qatar who live in Pennsylvania who are under twenty five. Giving them something of value. Like, hey, I'm playing a show or hey, here's my song. No, one cares. Right. They got to already be invested in you. Yeah. True. Yeah. In half the time. They still don't even care. Let me think about your Instagram feeling when you look through hundred percents like I've. Post things, and I just glaze over a lot of times not because you don't care you just it's it's I think it's just there's too much static. You know what I mean? Anyway, I think things are on the upswing at least for us. So hey, just got to keep just gotta keep talking talking. Really? That's it. I mean, again, if you sit on the couch every day and watch game of thrones. It ain't going to happen, man. Yeah. It just ain't like I said you need this day sometimes, but you gotta gotta plug. Yep. You gotta hustle. I mean, you hear that all time. But I it's fucking true and doubt, Greg Johnson, Pittsburgh singer songwriter. Guitar player extraordinary, gentlemen. Thanks very much for doing this. Thanks for having me tell people where they can find you. You finally on Instagram. Just Greg Johnson music to jeez. On the Greg G double G young. And the shoot me. You should we message? We'll talk I want to say thank you again to Greg Johnson. I really appreciate what he had to say. And you like this podcast the best thing you can do is rate review in subscribe wherever you listen to your podcasts. Once again, if you are interested to see. The video of the performance of the song. Greg performed for our show, you can find that on my website as well as links to everything else that I do including all my podcasts. My music, my video content and everything else you can also get in touch with me on Instagram and Twitter at Matt Elias music website is mad Elias music dot com. And I will leave you with the full live performance by Greg Johnson of his song the krone. She
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"I just I remember being in choir like elementary school middle school in like, you go sing for the old people the old folks home, and it's being terrified so terrified of the old people themselves. They're gonna come get me. Like, they're scary. But like their their quality of life like the some of them can't even gather chair. They have to be spooned imagining, you were afraid that you were going to end up that way. Like, I so I I'm always have this pressure on my own existence of Iran at a time run out of time run out of time. So that compounded with you wanna try and make it in music. Son was already takes awhile, and you guys to get out in every little business. Yeah. So as bad as acting though, right or sorta here, which you know, which gives a little hope, but it still that. Yeah. I'm just already getting older. And it's you got, you know, then it's just the fact. Matter. You know, you get past forty. I mean, that's really the breaking point like for a local example like tape Hanish, right? Yeah. Grew up right down the road and coal center, Pennsylvania. It, you know, people might not know who he is. But they would know his song. They know that song sold number one hits on the radio. What was the one that? He had the one American ride. I think was a Toby Keith song or something like that know this was years ago. But so he sold one of his job. He's played one two or not to be Keith. Or Keith urban Keith urban had a big one that was like his hit like four or five years ago. Yeah. But that was a guy at least from what I hear. Now, you know, I don't know all the intricacies. But from what I can tell like he was doing his thing in Nashville as a songwriter performance getting there and was like right on the brink of making himself, and everyone told me too old by your songs. But I mean, he as a performer he had it boy can sing play. Well, but he was too old. So he can be marketed teenyboppers, you didn't want to sort of Gaza. Chris Stapleton, you know there. I don't know how he made it all the intricacies are the climate's a little different nowadays. But fair enough one hundred century, it's not a centralized like you don't have these gate gate. Hold keepers in the record labels like you used to and do, but like you can make it. There's more of an opportunity to be dependent because you can reach people through the internet. Absolutely. Because there's so much noise. Now, like, you you're your own platform like John Mayer's genius for doing his like Instagram show like he has show now that's all free, and he doesn't have it's just from a phone, and he gets millions of years since ain't now, obviously, John Mary. But the point is that you can do that any schmuck can do that nowadays where like in ten years ago. We was kids sitting on the edge of our bed trying to figure out those strings, and no one, you know, there was no Instagram live or even just making this grand post. There was barely my space. You know, which still didn't even have that. Right. So and and back then like, for example, like how the, you know, the biggest top of fame was boy bands. You know, like you said the client is different at absolutely is back. Then if you that was like the top pop star Britney Spears boy bands. Now, you have seems like real bands and individual musicians are kind of coming back in a way, you know, sort of. Yeah. At least more than it was then I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. It's good in. It will think it's bad. It just is what it is. It's just change. It's just neutral, you know. But like, right. There's nothing anyone can do about it. So say swim. Right. Yeah. Like you and me both like we're putting a lot on ourselves to try and do music. Yeah. Full-time, and we're we're we're doing better than we were year ago. Right. So dude that's making some progress. That's one central like you have to get satisfaction out of doing it or else. I don't like I for me personally. I I would not be able to continue doing this. If didn't in itself. Give me some sort of gratification. Right. Oh, yeah. I could not do like say it wasn't music. So it was like the type of work. I used to do my job. Yeah. Right. You know, like I used to do like logistics and short systems stuff in a regional grocery chain and their distribution. And anyway, like, I just was doing this thing it was like living this life. And I know you've sort of went down this road a little bit too. Which is what I was sort of getting out with the Chris Stapleton thing. Like, I felt like like not only do I already have this mountain to climb and you have mountain to climb of everything you have to do to make it into, you know, make make a buck playing music, no doubt. But also, I'm also kicking myself for the years that I quote, unquote, wasted the it's like God damn it. Like if I had just been doing what I'm doing now on Instagram or YouTube like ten years ago. Yeah. You know, and we're different in in some aspects to where like for me. It's a challenge in navigate my own like psychosis. I'm Lauren good ways deal with it. But like sometimes. I find like so it's good to engage in network always with other peers, and with people who are ahead of you on the path or you know, or whatever absolutely now sometimes for me, I got I recognize when it's time for me to not be looking at someone stuff for a little while because I can get in a point where it becomes I'm comparing myself to them and painting myself in a negative light in d- motivating me so found that like instead of going into a hole and just wanting to quit what need to do. Sometimes just keep my eyes on my own work for a little bit. Because sometimes the looking at other people's stuff hurts me because I just they just paralyzed one hundred percent, which is large part while like I have the battle with like the whole social media thing. You know, I wanna I wanna run away from an as fast as I can for the million different reasons that a lot of people should but a big just healthwise gaffe. Yeah. The mental health thing. I mean like is Al find myself. You know before you go to bed for like a full hour. Maybe more whenever. Yes. Looking it? Yeah. That's so destructive idea to how other musicians all he. Put up another video already I'm afraid to get one of those screen time. It will tell you. How long you spend on your phone? I'm afraid to do. Well, I've been I sort of always actively try to do less and less and less. So what I did was like, you know, years ago, I had a Twitter Facebook tumbler this or whatever, you know, Instagram. They're now I've basically only use Instagram. I I do have a Facebook. But it's like deactivated. I'll bring back for big posts big announcement stuff like that. But it's really just my own ability to be able to manage my time on a so instead of like, I figured if I got rid of those and only use Instagram, I'll just use it that much less. Well, really all the time just went into in working it did to agree. But it really takes a lot of just self. Just be like, okay. That's enough. You know, and but you're right. I'll see somebody who I look up to as thousands who I try to emulate say. And I'll be like, you know, my gosh there they go again. I haven't even done anything today holiday was make a sandwich and watch came thrones. You know, if you ate the sandwich. Do that's. And you know, what I'm not saying that's all and how the every person on this planet needs a day where they just make the couch. But it's it's everything you can't do that. All time kind of thing. So I'm always trying to figure out that balance. Which is really what it is. It's just tough like making all the continental time. Really? Because it it's distracting to me. It's distracting if I'm a middle of writing a song inspired by something. I'm sitting on the edge of the different jobs exam running a bit. You're not just doing job. You're running a business, and you are every employee songwriting department is separate from the while said the the building a following department. I've been doing this thing where I batch produced the Instagram stuff. I'm posting every day like on my allies is music Instagram, but I'm not like everyday spending. You know, I I make the posts like as much as I can I'll sit down, you know, you've seen him like I'll record a bunch of stuff on the guitar, and then I will chop that up. And then I'll put it up. Up as throughout the week. And then sometimes I'll add like like, I'm not going to get like seven out of that. But maybe I get four. So you record like separate posts on one sitting, and then we will try one video one like twenty minute. Video message hop it up. A smart fight get there's thirty seconds is something interesting on that front is that just something you woke up on that all the should just do that. Or did you steal from somebody? Because that is idea of batch productions such a smart idea business thing. Yeah. But there's a guy on YouTube who you would like in everyone should check out if you're. Yeah. In this path is Adam Ivy. He's like a new music producer. But he's like sort of a marketing kind of dude, but focused on the music business. Yeah. I got really strong is he's he makes good good videos. He's got good things to say I as far as like batch production like I've done that with video and stuff in the past just the it's just a more efficient way to do it. Instead of like gearing up. Getting myself down there getting together four different times for four different videos, like it's gonna take five times as long in total. Yes, do it once and then end up with a bunch of you know, but like atomised he's the one that for him because he's like he's just take four hours on a Sunday. Just get your whole shit for the rest of the week. And smart. Yeah, I find my life like livable hundred percent because you know, making the content. If you don't have like a dedicated room or a station at least set up where you can just sit down and record. I mean, and I don't and haven't need to work towards every basically piece I've ever put up or anything I start from scratch. I I'll be in the middle writings on the same inspired. And I'm doing a song. Yeah. Sometimes it's hot does. Go ahead. Oh, I should make a post of this. This is really cool. But then I have that. I know I'm reading this snake right now. I gotta keep riding this. You know, if you're in the middle of songwriting, I I'd be able to. But that's when it pops in my head because I don't just sit and say, oh, I should make a post like I think about posting creating some and when you say. It's the straggling. It is it is like, yeah. It's the the logistics of getting Cameron thing, and what you're gonna say and all that like that work right there. That's the benefit of you can remove that barrier by dedicating. Yeah. Dedicating time to the social media stuff. Totally Maxine because then you're baking in that setup time in that. Like, okay, I got a shift gears like, no, it's like work. I mean, you said time for something, you know, four hours on a Sunday. Like, we know you said it wherever employees like we gotta get that going. That's exactly how you have to treat it to wear different hats, like all deaf -solutely, I've sort of shifted gears a bunch because let's say like two years ago or so at least on Instagram. Because I was still in the writing process, and I didn't have the confidence. I have now rapid performing way more. Like, I was kinda just steal like working and like music fulltime. We've made a lot of shows. Yeah. Actually at this point in my life, where I'm sure, you know, if you listen to this like a lot of you might be here to where I was just I still would fulltime job. And like, I love music, I was wanted to do it. But it's always kind of like, well, I'll do it later or that's never that's not realistic. So I had my right? Then was I just wanted to be very niche. It was like I want to be the pedal pedal board guy guy, I want to be the gear guy and just like take pictures like don't you are the year guy. You're still your guy. Well, there's dudes who are into gear due to our. Yeah. Like your pedal board, I seventeen feet. Well, that's what I did for years. You know to collect all that stuff. It's not like you went out one day where I'm talking troll and forums to four in the morning. Just reading about new gear releases from Fender, Roland, whoever and just like drooling over it. And I did love it sells. Well, this is what I liked is what I'm into I'll make posts about this. And now it's evolved into when Avalos original music non-performing. Now, I gotta have a brand. So now, I can I've I was thinking literally early this morning about just wiping my Instagram starting over and just like real high quality content. Just me playing the posts like archiving or delete 'em earlier. Don't don't do that. Now. I for me. I Well, I I decided no probably not going to at the very least. I'm probably gonna trim it out from the fat. And just you know, 'cause like there's how small amount of guys who were going to like that that picture of the pedal board, whether it's the way large amount of people who were going to like see a guy playing a guitar sing a song. They might. I don't know. I could be wrong bull. But the the old posts aren't stopping like anyone from seeing the new posts. You're right. I think it's more of a sense of a lot of those are riposted like four years ago and just the just the sheer quality of of the post might not be fitting for what I have envisioned now, you know, you're talking like. From having a brand new year. A little different spin on that like the case for leaving. It is that I think a big part of people connecting with your brand is feeling like that. They've seen you grow. They've come with you on that journey. You know, and like now granted you're looking to attract people who weren't there or the five years ago. Right. Oh boy post, but they do look back if they do like, I've looked in your old posts. Yeah. Because like there's like a connection like I invested in, you know, a fan of your me. I mean, obviously like their friends, but like fair point. But yet to leave that like, yeah, why not plus it like shows that it's like street credit like you've been around for this long since been posting you know, what I mean? Plus if somebody does here song or see me live, and they're like, okay, I'm gonna false guy kind of like what he's doing. And then they also like potable words and stuff like that. That's another connection, then they might you know, like those and that helps over so brand wise I've been
"elias" Discussed on Matt Elias Music Podcast
"Be like a scratch coach scratch on the paper that I feel. I have done that myself yet. But I've done both. I've done both in the car. Concept kind of thing like you were talking about. It's like there's more than one way to skin a cat for. Sure. An I I've done many different ones too. Like, I've seen you sit down with like we've been playing in like, yeah. We'll just like one of us will be playing something just messing around and put that again like where I'll be laughing. What are you playing there? And you'd be like nothing just made it up. That's well set to because that's exactly what it is. Sometimes you have to do that. Right. I think a lot of people have a process whatever that might be. But you kinda gotta test the waters and see what works best for you. And in one situation. Like, I have also written a song. I've just sat down and said I'm going to write a song. Yeah. Here's a lick from the library in my head. Ooh. This melody popped in my head. And he right in means nothing. I have songs that mean nothing really, you know, me too. But people don't know that. Well, it means something to them. Exactly. And that's kind of the beauty music. You know? Yes. Yes. So I've done that way less way less of the time. Have I done it that way we sat down with the I'm going to write a song. Ginning to end right now, interestingly, the guys I talked to. Well, previous on the previous episode. Once this airs, the one that that airs before this to composers in their own bands guitarists to write the lyrics and whole thing for their bands. And they were both like on opposite ends of the spectrum with songwriting techniques. One was like, okay. I always sit down and write beginning to end. Like, if a he says, if I write a piece or like, a riff or whatever, and it doesn't inspire me to finish the rest that I'm just like snow. Good short, and the other guy doesn't thing with the with in because you mentioned the lake library that hard drive or whatever full of risk. I have one to the backlog, you're playing something. And then, you know, you're like, you know, it's good. And then you record it. But you don't finish it right now. Just put it in back in the file back now. Yeah. Yeah. One guy Nick he's against the lick library. And then Tyler on the other hand is like, yeah, I've got just a massive riff library. It's just like you. There are more than one. There's more than one way to do it. You have to do both like sometimes I've found recently that like maybe you've you've worked on this tooks we've been working on some some songs in writing recently. It's just if one way isn't giving me any results, then I'll have to switch it up and try something else. And a lotta times that'll get me moving. Absolutely. See that's interesting because I've never really figured out how to switch gears mid process. Yeah. I guess before I have songs that like are half finished or whatever for let's say a few years, and they'll sit I've never approached it and kind of in because once it's already it's sort of like you're forced fucking at that point in my opinion. Like if I'm halfway through something and. Started coming from X direction. I kinda got a weight for life to kind of sway back the pendulum of life to hit that feeling again where can finish it in the same spirit that you started. Correct authentic now. It's funny. You said Laurie Lear to like, you know, we'd be sitting there to play something. It was like, well, what does that that happens to because brevity, for example, in my my other band courier? I business with my guy. Right. A lot of my songs with Colorado. We're literally just sitting in my shop, and I'm just licking away. And he's busy doing something out of computer. And I just played the intro riff, and he turned around and said just that what was that play that again? And I was like, oh, I'm not even sure hold on. You know, you figure it out. And that song was built on ended up having feeling in meetings and things were going through at the time. It wasn't in the lick library, which is most of the time for me. So that was more rare. That was like, then it'd be one of my favorite songs the album. So that just goes to prove that you gotta try it. All you never know. What's going to happen to sit in cross your arms in a scene say I can only do it this way. Or this is the best way. Stopping yourself from making music on the case, you look like an ass. You're not you're not going anywhere. You're not helping yourself. And so you got to keep an open mind, and I certainly try to, but I find myself sort of in the closed doors of my own brain keeping things away. And then you kinda got to get out of that. And then playing with guys like you or just anyone else that helps a lot because then someone else might be like, well, try it this way. And you're like, yeah. Why should I'm an idiot. That makes so much sense. Yeah. So talk about collaborating in that way as far as the song writing. If you're if you're writing a song with someone else, I know from experience that can look completely different. Yeah. Depending on who you're with or even from one day to the next one person. So like talk about your process with your with your songwriting partners for the careerstep. Okay. So for me actually collaborating is what I prefer be honest with you. It's one of those weird things where like I I. I feel like I'm trapped ideas. They can't like get out until somebody else comes knocking on the door. Wow. Because I almost like suppress it like, it's not good enough or something. And then if I'm working with somebody in like, we do this idea, and I finally get the courage. I'm like, yeah. Okay. And then I just run with it. Now own I'm working with my buddy love known forever. The specific process is usually is short and sweet as I can make it is I'll have something in the lick library, and I'll lay down for five
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"Them. You know, the whole idea of people who wanted to join in my band, you know, they'd be like, oh, this is awesome. You know, cool shit. And that's not what I wanted in. I remember the first time, I showed my other guitar smash music. I just showed him Harper stuff. And he was like do this transition sucks. Right. He didn't say like that exactly. What he was definitely added. He's definitely needs work in. That's when I was like already me and him kind of had this like connection, guitar wise. And then he criticized my music critically in respectful like jets can work together. And I was like this is the fucking guy. We're going to wrap it up. I gotta get outta here. Big tanks. Tyler Cox, much Vanni stimulate GRA. Keep an eye out for upcoming beautiful music coming from simulate GRA. Equa poise get the album out on artists. Inara Demi urges. Which is killing it right now. Yeah. Sales by the way. Great records. Nice. Yeah. Wasn't it? Also on the billboard heat seekers hit free. My head off. Charted number twenty five on the billboard. He's a very humble man for attack death record. That is still my mind. That's awesome. Because he's a good guy. And the consumers are thinking that I didn't know. Oh. He's a good guy. Nick, my Nixon networking techniques are a whole nother conversation. That's all. That's a whole thing. Yeah. Would actually be something great to talk some help that. And I think most people do he laughs don't under people don't understand. You can't just make music in vacuum. And you can't you can't lead people aren't going to just come and seek you out because you re Z era. The of local promotion is dead as far as over. There's no need 'cause he literally. Yeah. You're right. Then. Let's keep that stimulus up. Until next. And I want to say thank you again to my good friends Tyler Cox, and Nick, Pat Vanni if you enjoyed this rousing panel style conversation that I had with them. You may also like the episode featuring Tyler end, Nick on my other show called the dark side podcast D A R C side podcast can find that on I tunes on soundcloud on Google play as well. And if you like this show, the best thing that you could do is rate review and subscribe wherever you listen to your podcasts. You can connect with me on Instagram on Twitter at Matt Elias music, and you can get me by Email at Elias, Matt at live dot com. Also, you can go to Madol is music dot com to find links to all my podcasts, and my music, and my video content on YouTube to thank you again. And I will catch you on the next episode of Matt lice music.
"elias" Discussed on Matt Elias Music Podcast
"Your practice is with a mission right now because you got this tour. Yeah. So you don't wanna waste your time on anything is not going to help you with that. Not don't want to. I cannot you literally I will be screwed because unless I'm gonna backtrack. My iron. I remember hanging out in late to make the record easier to play. Backtracking. Guitar solo and you just turn around and press play on a laptop and then just like Chilin hands behind your head. But he does. What's up everyone? Welcome to the Matt allies music podcast with me, your host, Matt Elias. Have you ever heard a musician whose playing was so good that you couldn't even begin to imagine how they got to that level in? If you're a player yourself, have you ever found yourself comparing your own playing to someone on that level and wondered how on earth could I even begin to bridge the gap between where my playing is. And where these high level or professional players are live for one have found myself asking all of these questions at one point or another. And that's why on this week's episode. I have a symbol a small panel of professional guitarists who play on a very high level in the technical death. Metal genre. Tyler Cox is composer and guitar player in his band simulator GRA, which is working on an upcoming full length release to be out soon. Keep an eye out for that. And Nick, Pat Vanni. Is a guitarist composer and all around madman behind the band equa poise whose album Demi urges has just released in the past few weeks and his really selling well, especially for a technical death metal album in our conversation. We talk about the paths that they have taken to get to the level of musicianship that they are at today, the conversation also veers into songwriting and the way that their technique informs the way that they write songs so to understand how all of that fits together. And how anyone even maintains this high level of playing technique. You're gonna wanna listen to my conversation with Tyler Cox, and Nick, Pat Vanni, tell me about just as an open conversation about how the path started for you on your instrument and getting to the level, you're at now for me trying to start out were, you know, I was just kind of listening to music in guitars, really what stood out for me? As the thing. I really dug I grew up. You know, if a lot of grunge music Alison chains Soundgarden Melvin 's the works. You know, just that really honestly not that shredding heavy and stuff, but just, you know, really, heavy guitar is the main factor in the music, and that's kind of what drew me into guitar playing in. Honestly, I kind of strangely enough. Oh, a lot of it to Qatar hero and not in the manner of like, oh guitar hero taught me how to play guitar hinged fame like that. You guys. Yeah. So that's what got you interested in in shredding. Not only was it. You know, like, yeah. This is kinda like mimicking guitar, which obviously got me the idea of like man, like I'd love the really, you know, guitar one day, but the people who. Chose the music for those games the people who actually decided like these of songs, we're gonna use picked very good music that had very good guitar stuff in it, and was objectively in my opinion, or subjectively great music that had often tar stuff in it and with that so guitar hero. Turned you onto a lot of music. Yeah. Absolutely in what really happened was listening to music wise. I got into you know, I listened to a lot of my metal core and stuff like that, you know, back in the day, I kind of expanded into progressive metal. You know, I still to this day think between the burden me or one of the best bands ever in one of the things you mentioned that really stood out to me about between buried me is that each musician. And even the singer is doing something impressive something that stands out. Right. Just think a tourist right? It's not just the tar. So was like holy shit. I remember just it's not even like. A complex passenger remember hearing informal gluttony. I just love that like base interest is really like Tom heavy tribal sound like the basis doing this really cool lick and I'll just like men like it. This is making me respect the other instruments. Well, so first and foremost, you got inspired to start getting good on the tar just based on the music that you were hearing. That's exactly as for most people, and what broke me into being like I wanna fuck in play my ass off. Yeah. Was I remember I was just on YouTube back in like oh, six oh seven. There's like super early days just like listening to stuff, and I heard scarifying by racer x and I remember just being enthralled. My how technical it was you heard that and put you in the woodshed. Oh, absolutely. And I get this kind of thing. And it's the reason I'm like a lot of progressive music, and, you know, odd time signature poly, rhythmic things and even like syncopated stuff. I like because I like that. That aspect of your expectations being subverted musically. And even you know, listening to yes, rush, you know, and stuff like that. You know, 'cause I listen to a lot of that growing up to. That's what you know, really got me entered aggressive music like that is sort of you are kind of gated off from playing that unless you get your tops up to a high level. Oh, yeah. You can't keep up with it. Right. What about you, Nick? So you were I'm sure you were inspired by a bunch of bands as well to push you. But we'll talk a little bit about how you ended up down the path to you know, pushing instruments so far I was super Lincoln eighty two. And I was in sixth grade started first Lincoln Burke, those in fifth grade, and I didn't play anything then, but I've moved to Florida and my aunt on guitar. I dunno. I just kind of like search going around with it. I was like watching a lot of money to music videos, and this and that and I just want to emulate it. Yeah. I didn't know what I was doing. I just fucking strumming the strings like pop them and stuff, and I one time I've. I like popped all the strings had big cuts across my hand. Like, there's blood everywhere strings cut, your fingers cut like the palm of my hand and everything. Yeah. Interesting topic, I strummed and and just cut my hand up, and like the you mean the strings broke and snap. So quick. Just gas. Micra cut on a massive level. But no whipped across and cut. My finger hole palm rather. Blood everywhere. I got hit in the eye with a broken string wants to do that. Didn't feel good. But why would I want to do that? But. I got into big obliquely to when I was trying to get that. Then I moved back to Pittsburgh. And I don't know I sort of like looking into reading tabs, and I was like, I did all the stupid basic songs and assaulted it. But you know, I try just on your own. No teacher. Yeah. Don't teach her anything like that. But you know, I just I practice it. And I've actually started becomes songs. Like, I remember I played sugar. We're going down a lot Superfly in America. Green day. Let's say American idiot but Green Bay I was super into like I was playing all of their songs easy. And yeah, I just remember I wanna say was about if grade when Qatar three came out that sounds about right? I remember as one song in particular. I really liked which was FCC remix. Uh-huh. Super into the fall of Troy, and like I wanted to get star that looked like his head wasn't. It was like some Scheckter. What did he play Scheckter? No. He didn't police right there. He puts on but it was like a similar, but it was just an escort. But yeah, he's fired me a lot because he's nuts and just guitar that was more before that had like I act does playing on. So if the of guitars, it was, you know, it was enough because I wasn't like sick or anything, but I screwed around on that. And I had fun. And then I got no ban called the number twelve looks like you real heavily. Yeah. And that was to from there. I just kind of say for briny, Matthey, whatever. But I got into definitely from there. My friend gave me an ipod that just had to like a bunch of death. Metal in-depth core. Yeah. I got as blood runs black in the great. Yeah. Annotations of an autopsy just like I I didn't love them. But I was like, listen, I'm despised icon. But there was one I still really like despised icon down. There is one band that really stuck with me? And that was. Black Dahlia murder, and I fell in love with the same. Oh, yeah. And they got like super into death metal. I kind of worked through death. Metal got tired of the modern stuff when I'm like a kick of just like nineties death metal and like the real progressive thrash metal Morley cynic Lake City, I can love stuff like that. But then big atheist man to elevate. The issue. Hey, technical thrash metal. And that's like what I was playing. It's hard was ought to stuff that was like, nineties inspired. Yeah. I didn't really take it super serious. But that's what I was. You know, where my mind was then in fury put out path of apotheosis in two thousand fourteen and that made me wanna start playing kind of what I played today. Right. The more modernized technical death metal sound. Yeah. Ever since then that's kind of where I've been. So you're very yourself taught. But you're hearing your your little story about how you got into the type of plane that you do your bo- both you guys really but death metal like pushed you into playing guitar like it's like you play the guitar. So you can play death metal. Yeah. It's hard for almost fourteen years at this point. So it's been a long time. But I never took it super serious like we'll Qatar hero. The one on a Heidi for probably three years because I was just like I want to get sick of Qatar here man, I could be getting good guitar, but it just didn't interest me as stop playing guitar for three years. So you could get good at guitar here. He got really good at guitar hero.