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"elaine godfrey" Discussed on Remainiacs - the Brexit Podcast

Remainiacs - the Brexit Podcast

06:09 min | 6 months ago

"elaine godfrey" Discussed on Remainiacs - the Brexit Podcast

"There's one story this week that continues to be even bigger than covid the reaction to the storming of the capital loss wednesday yesterday. Republicans have been trying to minimize what happened and trump's rollet but now the even organizations is unwise bank in the professional golfers association. A cutting ties with him. I mean has hasn't really become finally being crossed in the attlee. Republicans are struggling to accept. How much has changed. Before i get onto the i heard that the professional golfers association the pga cut actually really upset him possibly more so than everything else. That's happening Which is which kind of tells you everything you really need to know about. The president but Yeah i mean. I think certainly without question january six was a turning point of not just donald trump in those who've allied themselves to him for the last four years but but for the country. I think for years that we dealt with a president who was largely lead with impunity. And he's never really taken responsibility for anything that happens on his watch in indeed. He doesn't even seem to really wanna take responsibility for the things that he said in. Did that ultimately lead on his supporters to storm the capital In what was a deadly if if fruitless effort subur- american decency any no it has been If not surprising than at least perhaps been some parts encouraging to see a lot of republicans distance themselves from the president. Not exactly the biggest show of courage given that there. Two weeks left of him being on the job particularly. I'm thinking of you know the folks who resigned from his cabinet over what's happened a but you know by the same token you've seen folks like mike pompeo who i mean at least as far as i've seen so far has remained pretty quiet in the last week. You know. i think what we're seeing right now is a republican party. That's really trying to figure out how it's going to handle this partying with trump means parting with a massive support base but sticking with him also means alienating a significant chunk of the country. Thankfully that saw what happened last week is entirely reprehensible at since twenty sixteen is being this endless debate Among pundits historian so about whether trump is a populist and authoritarian and fascist have lost week's events otas the consensus certainly trump's populace credentials at the wherever in doubt. I mean he ticks. All of those popular boxes like he pits. The so called. Real people against crept deletes. He undermines democratic institutions. He attacks the media and he frames any threat to his power illegitimate I think what last week did Was reaffirmed for us or at least for me and you know. I i try to be really careful when i think about these 'cause i i wrote a piece about this with regard to populism but i i know that you know often just stirring about these terms without defining them can often just render them meaningless of just kinda take them to me that which we do not like but i think what last week's events can approved is that trump is a failed autocrat and a failed fascist. I mean this is a man that clearly has no respect for democratic institutions. He doesn't care about having a democratic mandate and he's willing to pursue power. Oh costs even if it means pressuring his own vice president to overturn the election results and indeed stoking events that that turned violent. But you know at the end of the day. American institutions did not enable him to do. So you know his subordinates. Didn't acquiesced to his every demand January six wasn't the march on rome unlike miscellany trump is not clung to power. But but i think we do know what kind of outcome trump would've wanted And we know just how close it came to being a whole lot worse than it was There's a great piece on the atlantic. By my colleague elaine godfrey who is reporting at the capitol that day she talked about you know how some of the the trump supporters who who'd gone to the capitol ahead zip ties Were wearing like sort of like military type like this. Riders were erecting wooden gallows next to the capital talking about wanting to hang people you know. Thankfully i mean i don't want to. The fact of the matter is five. People died in that event but we could easily imagine what would have happened if some of these people had managed to get themselves in a room with congressional lawmakers. And i think that's quite scary in that this beta kind of A school of punditry this consistently downplayed Trump's of their -tarian tendencies and sort of complained of trump derangement syndrome. People getting carried away. He do you think. He gets much credit for being sort of lazy disciplined in an internet to me. Should we yes. We are suggesting judgment quoting to what he clearly liked to happen. Rather than what he actually achieves a. We really need to take seriously what he would do if he was capable. Absolute i mean what does this is. What is what it is. That makes him a fascist. It doesn't matter that. He is too inarticulate and dimwitted to understand what those words are and it doesn't matter that he's too incompetent to deliver on the things that he wants to do. It doesn't change. Fundamentally is what it means things are. It's like you know those old who back book atomised was about the sort of it's like sexual libertine guy who wants free love and group sex everywhere but the thing is you can't find anyone to sleep with him with basically what trump is to fascism. He just is unable to deliver the thing that he actually believes him. And that but it was baked in early on. Because he's and it goes to the heart of why there is some distinction between heyman am brexit right. Because the idea of the narrative the people at this sort of legitimate of virtuous group that should be considered the collective identity takes precedence over democratic institutions and democratic processes and the individual votes. Now that was coming to both the distinction wards. The trump go very explicitly implicitly the time with the concept of rice and it also was operationalized..

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"elaine godfrey" Discussed on KCRW

KCRW

07:34 min | 7 months ago

"elaine godfrey" Discussed on KCRW

"Ransacking the House and Senate chambers and the offices of some lawmakers, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. The siege left four people dead and more than 50 Capital and D. C. Metro police officers injured around 70 people have been arrested. So far, the Justice Department is pledging to criminally charged Maura of the rioters, and the FBI is asking the public for help in identifying them. The big question is why the violence was able to get so out of hand in the first place. The signs were all there weeks ago. In some cases, a December tweet from Donald Trump invited supporters to D. C for a big protest on January, 6 telling them to be there and that it would will be wild. That's a quote leaders of far right groups like the proud Boys urge their followers to go. Trump supporters have clashed with police Monday night, and they were openly planning violence on far right social media sites. Joining us to talk about who these insurrectionists are and how they managed to plan this attack. Is sure Frankel she covers cybersecurity for The New York Times. Welcome back, Shira. Thanks for having me. And Elaine Godfrey's staff writer of the Atlantic, and she was there among the crowds in DC yesterday and she joins us from the capital now. Hi, Elaine. Hi there. Thanks for having me great to have you both. Sure. Let's begin with you. What kind of language was out there on on line ahead of yesterday's events. The language on these forms that people who were gathering in the capital on January 6th. They were incredibly clear that they had an intention to occupy the capital. We saw them using words like storm the Capitol occupied the capital occupy Washington. They were using militaristic language and talking about bringing weapons that I think left little in new on in the way of nuance of what they wanted to do when they arrived in Washington. Right, And so how many people you could you determine how many people were participating in these talks and how many people they were recruiting Way knew that there were hundreds and potentially thousands of people that were openly posting on these on some of these social media platforms that they were going to be attending in Washington, and we assumed that the numbers were going to be bigger because in conversation, many of them said, I'm bringing a car of my friends or I'm bringing my family or picking up other people along the way. So whatever we saw online, we assumed that it was going to be larger. And they specifically said that they wanted to storm the capital, or were they saying they wanted to attend this rally and then just see what kind of you know action they could stir up later. Um, I would say that there was a good number of them that used language like storm the capital's storm. Congress occupy Washington. Um, I wouldn't. I wouldn't characterize it as all of them. Some of them did, in fact, just speak about going to the rally and listening to trump speak. But there was this sense among them that there had been widespread voter fraud and that the election of unfortunately taken away from the president, and they wanted to see him serve a second term. And that they were going to Washington to try and make sure that happened. And these people were organizing, not on places like Facebook and Twitter, necessarily because of a lot of these groups have been banned from Facebook and Twitter, but from places like parlor and other Sites. There's one called the Donald. What Can you tell us about those sites? So we've seen them slowly Move also Facebook and Twitter as those platforms really cracked down on the far right movements, and they've migrated over to places like parlor and jab. Which of these friends, social media sites where people can really stay or do whatever they want, and in real time, they were becoming more more radicalized as they spent time on those sites. They served as somewhat of an echo chamber Echo chamber. Sorry where they could say anything they wanted, and with no one to contradict them. They could amp up their rhetoric. And so you know, in November, there was lots of talk of stock to steal. The vote was fraudulent. Let's try and make it right. And by December has progressed into let's go to Washington and occupy the capital. And I'm going to even post photographs online of the guns and other weapons that their plan to bring with me to D. C. Well and Elaine what was happening on the more mainstream sites like Twitter and Facebook in terms of people gathering there to come to Washington, at least To see Donald Trump and attend that rally, not necessarily maybe to storm the capital. Yeah, it's it's really interesting. I think you know, I started the day on the Ellipse. And it was. It was a typical sort of Trump rally vibe. Everyone had their flags. I talked to people who had met each other on Twitter or on Facebook and in certain Facebook groups on these weren't necessarily the kind of people Um uh, that are on on parlor or gabble. Lot of them are older. They just wanted to support the president. And they sort of they came out. They thought, Oh, I guess we're marching on the capital. They marched on the capital on Ben. They sort of thought so People are going in will go in. So it was kind of like these more mainstream folks. We're just following They weren't you know they hadn't brought gas masks with them necessarily, or or weapons of any kind, but they were participating nonetheless, and they had organized to be there. Similarly on social media. Right? Because Trump is the one who suggested that they marched down to the Capitol during the rally, so In that sense, Maybe those supporters that you're talking about hadn't planned to do that. But they were perhaps encouraged to do so when the president suggested they do so. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I talked to several people, and I said, What's your plan? I mean, Trump will be done speaking soon and what will you do? And several people said, Um, I guess we're going to the capital. I'm not sure. So it's so they just they they did what the president told them to do. They did. What? Um The folks who were a little bit more organized, were shouting through their megaphones. They sort of just followed along. He did with the president told them to do well, so once they were there. Did they have second thoughts? I think. Oh, maybe we're part of something. We don't want to be a part of So as I was approaching the capital, I hadn't realized things have gone south there because I didn't have service on my phone. I realized we were walking over barricades. I realized there were no police. Insight. Really. We started to get towards the West Lauren, which is which is overlooking the reflecting pool on bond. People started shouting, Get as close as you can get as close as you can, and people I was with, Um, who were these sort of regular regular folks said Okay, We will, um And you know, with the exception of people who had come with kids People just approach they got as close as they could. And the people who I think were worried about getting pepper sprayed, stayed back a little bit, but they were. They were really entertained and eager to watch what would happen there Watching people climbing scaffolding, people breaking in through the back way and fighting with the cops. They were. They were all sort of Varying degrees of interested and watching. So more entertained than shocked and horrified. That's what you're saying. Oh, yeah, definitely. So sure. Meanwhile, there have been these kind of notorious photos that have made their rounds around the Internet. I think many of us have seen the photo of the guy in the horns..

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"elaine godfrey" Discussed on KCRW

KCRW

08:33 min | 7 months ago

"elaine godfrey" Discussed on KCRW

"Was gonna be a lot of time for us to figure out what happened. Obviously, it was a failure, or you would not have had police minds preached in people. Enter the Capitol building by breaking windows in terrorizing the people. The members of Congress who were doing a very sacred constitutional requirement of their jobs s so clearly there was there was a failure there. Washington, DC Mayor Muriel Bowser criticizing the Capitol Police is response to yesterday's insurrection, calling it an obvious failure. Hundreds of Trump supporters stormed the capital building yesterday, ransacking the House and Senate chambers and the offices of some lawmakers, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. The siege left four people dead and more than 50 Capital and D. C. Metro police officers injured around 70 people have been arrested. So far, the Justice Department is pledging to criminally charged Maura of the writers, and the FBI is asking the public for help in identifying them. The big question is why the violence was able to get so out of hand in the first place. The signs were all there weeks ago. In some cases, a December tweet from Donald Trump invited supporters to D. C for a big protest on January, 6 telling them to be there and that it would will be wild. That's a quote leaders of far right groups like the proud Boys urge their followers to go. Trump supporters have clashed with police Monday night, and they were openly planning violence on far right social media sites. Joining us to talk about who these insurrectionists are and how they managed to plan this attack. Is sure Frankel she covers cybersecurity for The New York Times. Welcome back, sheriff. Thanks for having me. And Elaine Godfrey's staff writer of the Atlantic, and she was there among the crowds in DC yesterday and she joins us from the capital now. Hi, Elaine. Hi there. Thanks for having me great to have you both. Sure. Let's begin with you. What kind of language was out there on on line ahead of yesterday's events. The language on these forms that people who were gathering in the capital on January 6th. They were incredibly clear that they had an intention to occupy the capital. We saw them using words like Storm the capital occupy the capital occupy Washington. They were using militaristic language and talking about bringing weapons that I think left little in new on in the way of nuance of what they wanted to do when they arrived in Washington. Right, And so how many people you could you determine how many people were participating in these talks and how many people they were recruiting Way knew that there were hundreds and potentially thousands of people that were openly posting on these on some of the social media platforms that they were going to be attending in Washington, and we assume that the numbers were going to be bigger because in conversation, many of them said, I'm bringing a car of my friends or I'm bringing my family or picking up other people along the way. So whatever we saw online, we assumed that it was going to be larger. And they specifically said that they wanted to storm the capital, or were they saying they wanted to attend this rally and then just see what kind of you know action they could stir up later. Um, I would say that there was a good number of them that used language like storm the capital's storm. Congress occupy Washington. Um, I wouldn't. I wouldn't characterize it as all of them. Some of them did, in fact, just speak about going to the rally and listening to trump speak. But there was this sense among them that there had been widespread voter fraud and that the election of unfortunately taken away from the president, and that they wanted to see him serve a second term. And that they were going to Washington to try and make sure that happened. And these people were organizing, not on places like Facebook and Twitter, necessarily because of a lot of these groups have been banned from Facebook and Twitter, but from places like parlor and other Sites. There's one called the Donald. What Can you tell us about those sites? So we've seen them slowly move off of Facebook and Twitter as those platforms really cracked down on the far right movements, and they've migrated over to places like parlor and jab. Which of these friends, social media sites where people can really stay or do whatever they want, And in real time, they were becoming more more radicalized. As they spent time on those sites. They served as somewhat of an echo chamber Echo chamber. Sorry where they could say anything they wanted and with no one to contradict them. They could amp up their rhetoric. And so, you know, in November, there was lots of talk of stock to steal. The vote was fraudulent. Let's try and make it right and by December progressed into let's go to Washington and occupy the capital. And I'm gonna even post photographs online of the guns and other weapons that I plan to bring with me to D. C. Well and Elaine what was happening on the more mainstream sites like Twitter and Facebook in terms of people gathering there to come to Washington, at least To see Donald Trump and attend that rally, not necessarily maybe to storm the capital. Yeah, it's it's really interesting. I think you know, I started the day on the Ellipse. And it was. It was a typical sort of Trump rally vibe. Everyone had their flags. I talked to people who had met each other on Twitter or on Facebook and in certain Facebook groups on these weren't necessarily the kind of people Um uh, that are on on parlor or gabble. Lot of them are older. They just wanted just support the president, and they sort of they came out. They thought, Oh, I guess we're marching on the capital. They marched on the capital on Ben. They sort of thought so People are going in will go in. So it was kind of like these more mainstream, folks. We're just following that They weren't you know, they hadn't brought gas masks with them necessarily, or Or weapons of any kind, but they were participating nonetheless, and they had organized to be there. Similarly, on social media Right? Because Trump is the one who suggested that they marched down to the Capitol during the rally, so In that sense, maybe those supporters that you're talking about having planned to do that, But they were perhaps encouraged to do so when the president suggested they do so. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I talked to several people, and I said, What's your plan? I mean, Trump will be done speaking soon and what will you do? And several people said, um, I guess we're going to the capital. I'm not sure so so they just they? They did what the president told them to do. They did. What the folks who were a little bit more organized, were shouting through their megaphones. They sort of just followed a lot. He did with the president told them to do well, so once they were there. Did they have second thoughts? I think. Oh, maybe we're part of something. We don't want to be a part of So as I was approaching the capital, I hadn't realized things have gone south there because I didn't have service on my phone. I realized we were walking over barricades. I realized there were no police. Insight. Really. We started to get towards the West Lawn, which is which is overlooking the reflecting pool on bond. People started shouting, Get as close as you can get as close as you can, and people I was with, Um, who were these sort of regular regular folks said Okay, We will, um And you know, with the exception of people who had come with kids People just approached and they got as close as they could. And the people who I think were worried about getting pepper sprayed, stayed back a little bit, but they were. They were really entertained and eager to watch what would happen there Watching people climbing scaffolding, people breaking in through the back way and fighting with the cops. They were. They were all sort of Varying degrees of interested and watching. So more entertained than shocked and horrified. That's what you're saying. Oh, yeah, definitely. So sure. Meanwhile, there have been these kind of notorious photos that have made their rounds around the Internet. I think many of us have seen the photo of the guy in the horns. Um, He's now been identified as Jack and Jelly, a 32 year old man from Arizona self identified as a member of Cuban on there's another guy of photograph of a guy sitting in Nancy Pelosi's chair in her office. With his feet up. He's been identified as Richard Barnett..

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"elaine godfrey" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes

All In with Chris Hayes

02:08 min | 8 months ago

"elaine godfrey" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes

"We are not here. The curse the darkness we here to light a candle. I'm chuck rosenberg on my podcast. The oath i talk with people who served with integrity and honor men and women who liked the way. Our conversations on the oath are thoughtful civil respectful essential. We bring these leaders in their struggles and successes to life. this week. The oath returns with former cia director. Robert mueller here. I thought thanks or is your men. How do i keep my men safe. I was there to take care of her. Men join me for season for the oath and msnbc podcast search for the oath wherever you are listening right now and subscribe new episodes. Everyone's the depressing enraging unavoidable conclusion. That i've come to kobe policy as we do full-time every day. And as we have for months but as we look at this fall and heading into the winters at huge lots of the country have policymakers that have just given up at the highest level. There's just they're not crying. Any i was one of those places. Atlantic's elaine godfrey writes this unbelievably gripping account of what happens. When policymakers give up to visit. I right now is a travel back in time to the early days of the coronavirus pandemic in places such as new york city lamberti seattle when the horror was fresh virus has been raging for eight months in this country. I would just hasn't been acting like the author of that piece lane godfrey now. It's a really remarkable piece of journalism lane. And i learned a lot from it. Tell me what what has been the approach. I was in the sort of cluster those midwestern states that has had a really bad peak and they're sort of starting to move off top peak at least temporarily right now. There are a few weeks ago. What was it like me chris Yeah it's a pretty Bleak situation right. now you're right that cases towards the very end of november dropped. But but what we've seen in iowa is.

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"elaine godfrey" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

06:34 min | 1 year ago

"elaine godfrey" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"The lowest paid health care workers in America most make less than fifteen dollars an hour they're mostly women often they're immigrants and many live in multi generational homes they are taking care of older parents who are similarly vulnerable or young children they are working multiple jobs and they might work at multiple nursing homes they might have totally different jobs but it means either way that they're being exposed to this virus and other places and potentially bringing it into the building so all of these factors sort of combine to make a really really deadly scenario for these these residents and and for staff mmhm in your piece you also raise the issue of testing and how proper testing could have dramatically reduce the spread of the virus especially in these types of facilities and this is something that we've talked about in general a lot on the show but can you explain what you mean specifically in the context of nursing homes and long term care so we knew before this virus hit the U. S. that the elderly were most vulnerable and that is symptomatic people could likely spread the virus so we knew those two things yes the CDC here in the U. S. prioritized hospital patients and health care workers who show symptoms to get tests over nursing home residents who were symptomatic and over people who didn't show symptoms but might work or live in these high risk places the CDC announced that they're sort of switching up their priorities so now they include nursing home residents and workers with symptoms as high priority but either way health care policy experts that I spoke with said this is all wrong it doesn't really help they want there to be universal testing so they're saying test everyone these facilities why from the beginning did we not send test to these facilities and require that all workers and all residents take them regardless of symptoms since they're such hot spots and since there been so many fatalities in these places was it an issue of bad prioritization from the beginning or were there not enough tests definitely both our our big issue in this country with the response to this virus has been we don't have enough tests we did not ramp up testing quickly or quickly enough so the CDC definitely had to make a hard choice there right how do we prioritize what limited supply we have but experts say we knew that the quote unquote death traps would be nursing homes and assisted living facilities where people can't leave where they live in close proximity where they're already immuno compromised or or frail so they're saying it was just a big mistake to begin with and they're saying that it it emphasizes or reveals our pre existing disregard for older people in this country that was a big point that all these experts continue to make to me you mentioned this recent change and prioritization for testing have we seen any other changes or are there any on the horizon at the state or federal level the trump administration is doing their best to invest more money in rapid tests for residents and workers of nursing homes so we note that the governor of Maryland issued an executive order telling all nursing homes to test everyone so so advocates are really happy about that they they say it could be too little too late but you know if every governor said that let's prioritize these nursing homes we could really stop a lot of these deaths what do you want people to take away from your reporting and from your very personal story that you've shared here about your grandmother I guess I'd say that we are all worried about contracting this virus our loved ones contracting this virus I would say that we should all spare a thought for the nursing home residents assisted living residents and workers who are quite literally you know at the epicenter of this crisis we are really in quite a fragile state right now if we could spare a thought for them send some meals some extra extra P. P. E. their way and going forward I think we should think about how we prioritize these vulnerable people people who are our parents and our grandparents Elaine Godfrey is a reporter at the Atlantic the lane thank you very much thanks so much for having and we have been hearing from some of you who work in long term care facilities or who have family working in one Hey I'm calling from New York my name is Steve I just worked at a long term care facility and level of disrespect that they've been saying was not only the workers but also the patient is just atrocious they had times where they have had multiple data five six seven eight that's within a twenty four hour period people have been ousted with close attention no one expects anything for them and allow them to still get that PPP has not been provided to them the administrative state nothing self test yet thank you to the staff I show any kind of appreciation for the dedication of these people are doing and the harm that if putting themselves into it is beyond belief hi this is Linda calling from west Palm Beach I have a sister in Atlanta Georgia who works as a physical therapist and senior living facility her patient was diagnosed with COPD with nineteen Archie was alerted and had to take a cab my sister is the national test came back positive you have to pay one hundred sixty five dollars for that class has filed a workman's comp claim to subsequent tests proved that she is negative SO three test total and she is no longer working thank you long term care facility developed close relationships with their patients and their families it's got ready check for them to lose their patients like this when my sister was sick she repeatedly blamed herself and thought that she was a failure she's so far from the failure she's been fighting for a.

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"elaine godfrey" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

01:50 min | 1 year ago

"elaine godfrey" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"Every day with these very very vulnerable people more on covert nineteen in nursing homes and assisted living centers in the U. S. coming up the takeaway supported by progressive insurance committed to offering a streamlined shopping experience with home and auto can be bundled together now that's progressive learn more at progressive dot com or one eight hundred progressive well that's all it will speak with filmmaker Richard Mason about her new documentary surface of books tell the story of how her parents have okay adult content shop in Los Angeles became a custom for the LGBTQ what what the crystal Moselle talks about her new that is about email skaters navigating the male dominated world order I'm Alison Stewart joined me for all of it we and once we're back talking with reporter Elaine Godfrey about the high covert nineteen death toll in U. S. long term care facilities she reported on this for the Atlantic and she recently lost her own grandmother who'd been in assisted living in Minnesota to the coronavirus Alain I want to turn to the question of people working in these facilities who are they and what are they facing the majority of workers who make up staff at these nursing homes and assisted living facilities are certified nursing assistants these are people who phase patients feed them take care of their daily needs there are.

"elaine godfrey" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

08:47 min | 1 year ago

"elaine godfrey" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"Joined by rich me cue from business insider and Sarah Jones from New York magazine and we're discussing the sexual assault allegations against former vice president Joe Biden by former Senate staffer Tara Reid which in your reporting you spoke to an old neighbor of Tara's who says that she remembers hearing about this alleged incident in the mid nineteen nineties and she believes in telling the truth she also said that she is a Democrat who plans to vote for Biden Sarah Jones from New York magazine what do you make of that it's interesting it doesn't surprise me all that much I think it makes a great deal of sense to believe that Joe Biden did do this but also consider him against the person of Donald Trump he's been accused of sexual assault and harassment by so many women and despite everything that Biden might be the lesser of two evils rich Biden claimed in his interview with MSNBC last week that two major papers show that reads allegations are not credible and Stacey Abrams who is a potential vice presidential pick for Biden was asked about this on CNN last Thursday let's listen to her I believe that women deserve to be heard and I believe that they need to be listened to but I also believe that those allegations have to be investigated by credible sources The New York Times that a deep investigation and they found that the accusation was not credible I believe Joe Biden that Stacey Abrams speaking they're rich me Q. what do you make of what she's saying there about the New York times investigation well I think it's it's slightly disingenuous to to point to that and save they concluded their investigation because after I came forward with my piece with two more on the record sources both the times and The Washington Post put out new stories and added their voices to the reporting and so I you know I have to imagine that the reporters at the times and The Washington Post would would never say they concluded their investigation and I certainly have not sorry you wrote in a recent piece that Tara Reid has given public feminists and ideological test and many are failing what do you mean by that do they actually believe any of the things they wrote during the Cavanaugh hearings or or before that as me to first gained public momentum and you took down figures like Harvey Weinstein Matt Lauer Charlie Rosen and liberal figures like al Franken it seems to me that you know some people viewed the story of of Brett Kavanaugh in particular and talk Christine lazy for its allegations about him as though that they were principally story about the hypocrisy of Republican men or of conservative Christian man and viewed it through an electoral alliance when in fact what people have been saying about me too is that you know this is a story about power and how it gets abused by people who wield it and that seems to me something that some public communists are are forgetting in the wake of terror Reid's allegations about Joe Biden and Serra looking forward to the presidential election later this year at risk of simplifying it I mean what's a feminist to do it's a it's a terrible position it is absolutely the predisposition for feminists to be end and I don't think that there's a simple resolution to it at all you know what I was really trying to get at my in my piece is that sense of exhaustion and frustration the idea that you are continually cleaning up after men like Joe Biden who have such complicated legacies and by the time terror Reid came forward she'd already accused fighting of sexual harassment and she was by no means the only one who can queues time of some some version of boundary violating behavior this is not an ideal situation you know I I think there's some credibility to the argument that given what the alternative is women have to vote for him anyway but I do think that they should be you know really a cost reckoning with the movement about what we are willing to settle for from the Democratic Party Sarah Jones is a staff writer for New York magazine and richly cues an investigative reporter and producer at business insider thank you both so much for joining us thank you thank you a disproportionately high number of covert nineteen deaths in the U. S. have been linked to long term care facilities like nursing homes and assisted living communities now a new estimate from USA today shows more than sixteen thousand deaths have been linked to nursing homes and long term care facilities Elaine Godfrey reporter for the Atlantic was reporting on why the death toll has been so high at long term care centers when her own grandmother died at a facility in Minnesota Alain thank you for being here thanks so much for having me and let me just say first I'm I'm really very sorry for your loss can you tell us about what happened to your grandmother yeah thank you for saying that so my grandmother was ninety four years old she lived in Minnesota and an assisted living facility and she had for several years we didn't know that she was sick she was dizzy and fell down one night and went to the hospital in the hospital they tested her for corona virus if you days later it turned out that she had it but otherwise she had no fever at first anyway and she didn't have other respiratory symptoms really it was really surprising to us you know it was really fast she died within just a few days of of her fall I'm so very sorry that I didn't I know that this is very personal for you but you also have done some reporting on this now and you've been talking to experts and other families is this a typical experience I think it's a technical experience in the speed of it elderly people show different symptoms there's been some studies that have shown that that elderly people show atypical symptoms that they don't necessarily have a fever or they don't necessarily have these respiratory symptoms that we're seeing suit their symptoms sort of run the gamut and I think it's important for people to know that the thing that is in common across the board is just the speed with which people become sick someone that I talked with in Virginia at a nursing home in Richmond Virginia told me as she was sort of working the floors people would show you know signs of general illness or fatigue and then very very quickly become bed ridden and immediately lose their ability to move around by themselves and they have to be sent to the hospital so it was it was very very common that within just a few days this this disease chuckled can you give us a sense of the real scope of this like we said at the top that at least sixteen thousand coronavirus deaths have been linked to long term care for all these is that accurate it's almost certainly an undercount because we just we don't have the numbers we haven't tested every one we we are not sure at this point who's actually died of the virus several complications related to the virus in Minnesota where my grandmother lived some seventy percent of all coronavirus deaths in the state have been linked to nursing homes and assisted living in six other states which which again it could be more because not all states have reported their total numbers but in six other states at least half of their current virus deaths are residents and workers at these places that the scope of this is just enormous you say it's not just about the health of that population it also has to do with underinvestment in these types of facilities can you talk about that and what you reported on a lot of the nursing homes that are really struggling right now they have a lot of patients pain through Medicaid Medicaid reimburses these facilities at a pretty low rates compared to insurance most of the time or or private pay soon these facilities aren't necessarily breaking even on the care that they're providing for people another part of this under investment is that many of these facilities are privately owned and sometimes the owners you know any any money that the facility is able to make that money is used to pay shareholders basically this underfunding means often these facilities are short on staff Austin residents have to share rooms and bathrooms which is not a great way to prevent infections spread a lot of these facilities are struggling with a lack of PPE personal protective equipment the kind of thing you have to wear when you're going room to room to room.

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"elaine godfrey" Discussed on The Takeaway

The Takeaway

09:50 min | 1 year ago

"elaine godfrey" Discussed on The Takeaway

"This is the takeaway. I'm Shumita Basu a disproportionately high number of covert nineteen deaths in the US have been linked to long term care facilities like nursing homes and assisted living communities now a new estimate from USA. Today shows more than sixteen thousand deaths have been linked to nursing homes and long term care facilities Elaine Godfrey reporter for the Atlantic was reporting on why the death toll has been so high at long term care centers when her own grandmother died at a facility in Minnesota. Elaine thank you for being here. Thanks so much for having me and let me just say I. I'm I'm really very sorry for your loss. Can you tell us about what happened to your grandmother? Yeah Thank you for saying that. So my grandmother was ninety four years old. She lived in Minnesota at an assisted living facility and she had for several years. We didn't know that she was sick. She was dizzy and fell down one night and went to the hospital and at the hospital. They tested her for Corona virus. A few days later it turned out that she had it but otherwise she had no fever at first anyway she didn't have other respiratory symptoms really. It was really surprising to us. You know it was really fast. She died within just a few days of of her fall. Oh I'm so very sorry now. I I know that this is very personal for you but you also have done some reporting on this now and you've been talking to experts and other families is typical experience. I think it's a typical experience in the speed of it. Elderly people show different symptoms. There have been some studies that have shown that that elderly people show atypical symptom. So they don't necessarily have a fever they don't necessarily Had these respiratory symptoms that. We're seeing their symptoms. Sort of run the gamut and. I think it's important for people to know that the thing that is in common across the board is just the speed with which people become sick. Someone that I talked with in Virginia at a nursing home in Richmond Virginia told me as she was sort of working. The floors people would show signs of general illness or fatigue and then very very quickly become bedridden immediately. Lose their to move around by themselves and they'd have to be sent to the hospital So it was. It was very very common that within just a few days This this disease cold. Can you give us a sense of the real scope of this like we said at the top that at least sixteen thousand corona virus deaths have been linked to long term? Care facilities. Is that accurate? It's almost certainly an undercount Because we just. We don't have the numbers. We haven't tested everyone. We we are not sure at this point. Who's actually died of the virus that complications related to the virus In Minnesota where my grandmother lived some seventy percent of all corona virus deaths in the state have been linked to nursing homes and assisted living in six other states. Which which again. It could be more because not all states have reported their total numbers but in six other states at least half of their current virus deaths are residents and workers at these places that the scope of this is just enormous. You say it's not just about the health of that population. It also has to do with under investment in these types of facilities. Can you talk about that? And what? You've reported on a lot of the nursing homes. That are really struggling right now. They have a lot of patients. Paying through Medicaid Medicaid Reimburses these facilities at a pretty low rate compared to insurance most of the time or or private pay so these facilities aren't necessarily breaking even on the care that they're providing for people. Another part of this underinvestment. Is that many of these facilities are privately owned and sometimes the owners? You know any any money that the facility is able to make that money is used to pay shareholders. Basically this underfunding means often. These facilities are short on staff often residents have to share rooms and bathrooms which is not a great way to prevent infection spread. A lot of these facilities are struggling with a lack of P p. e. personal protective equipment. The kind of thing you have to wear when you're going room to room to room every day With these very very vulnerable people elaine. I want to turn to the question of people working in these facilities. Who are they and what are they facing? The majority of workers who make up staff at these nursing homes and assisted living facilities are certified nursing assistants. These are people who bathe patients feed them. Take care of their daily needs. There are some of the lowest paid healthcare workers in America. Most make less than fifteen dollars an hour. They're mostly women often. They're immigrants and many live in multi generational homes. They are taking care of older parents who are similarly vulnerable or young children. They are working multiple jobs. They might work at multiple nursing homes. They might have totally different jobs. But it means either way that they're being exposed to this virus at other places and potentially bringing it into the building so all of these factors sort of combined to make a really really deadly scenario for these these residents and end for staff In your piece you also raised the issue of testing and how proper testing could have dramatically reduced the spread of the virus especially in these types of facilities. And this is something that we've talked about in general a lot on this show but can you explain what you mean specifically in the context of nursing homes and long term care so we knew before this virus hit the US that the elderly were most vulnerable and that a symptomatic people could likely spread the virus so we knew those two things yet the CDC here in the US prioritized hospital patients and healthcare workers who showed symptoms to get tests over Nursing Home Residents. Who ARE SYMPTOMATIC? And over people who didn't show symptoms but might work or live in these high risk places the CDC announced that they're sort of switching up their priorities so now they include nursing home residents and workers with symptoms as high priority but either way healthcare policy experts that I spoke with said this is all wrong. It doesn't really help. They want there to be universal testing. So they're saying test. Everyone facilities. Why from the beginning did we not send tests to these facilities and require that all workers and all residents take them regardless of symptoms since they're such hotspots and since there have been so many fatalities in these places was an issue of bad prioritization from the beginning or were there not enough tests? Definitely both are big issue in this country with the response to this virus has been. We don't have enough tests. We did not ramp up testing quickly quickly enough so the CDC definitely had to make a hard choice there right. How do we prioritize what limited supply we have but experts say we knew that the quote unquote death traps would be nursing homes and assisted living facilities where people can't leave where they live in close proximity where they're already immuno-compromised or frail? So they're saying it was just a big mistake to begin with and they're saying that it emphasizes or reveals our pre existing disregard for older people in this country. That was a big point. That all of these experts Continued to me. You mentioned the recent change in prioritization for testing. Have we seen any other changes or are there any on the horizon at the state or federal level? The trump administration is doing their best to invest more money in rapid tests for residents and workers of nursing home. So we know that the governor of Maryland issued an executive order Telling all nursing homes to test everyone So so advocates are really happy about that. They say it could be too little too late. But you know if every governor said that. Let's prioritize these nursing homes. We could really stop a lot of these deaths. Elaine what do you want people to take away from your reporting and from your very personal story that you've shared here about your grandmother. I guess I'd say that we are all worried about contracting this virus our loved ones contracting this virus. I would say that we should all spare a thought for the nursing. Home residents assisted living residents and workers. Who are quite literally. You know at the epicenter of this crisis. They are really in quite a a fragile state right now if we could spare a thought for them Send SOME MEALS. Some extra extra p. p. e. their way and going forward. I think we should think about how we prioritize these vulnerable people people who are our parents and our grandparents Elaine Godfrey a reporter at the Atlantic. Elaine thank you very much. Thanks so much for having me and we've been hearing from some of you.

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"elaine godfrey" Discussed on Chapo Trap House

Chapo Trap House

12:30 min | 1 year ago

"elaine godfrey" Discussed on Chapo Trap House

"The the peer bubble a couple of weeks ago uh-huh and it's now starting the air starting to go out of it Bloomberg's catching what's happened. It didn't catch on the way they wanted it to clearly. It wasn't convincing. It didn't have the the avalanche factor. Eventually it just snowballs and everyone just just greasy so smart and now everyone is pissed because they've been like eighteen eighteen articles in the past two days people being like. What's wrong with Pete? Why don't you like Pete? I have one here for you and then this will get into like sort of the thing. We first started talking about like the people who don't get it or a baffled. Y like an old guy. Like Bernie has such diehard support among young people and why young people don't don't look at someone like people to judge as an aspirational figure or someone impressive or admirable anyway in any way. Yeah all right. So this says this is comes courtesy of the Atlantic. or I like to call it. America's most reprehensible magazine Shit. Five far. I mean I would say absolute route litter dog Peterle. If your parents read the Atlantic swap it out for the Costco magazine kidding. They will become better. People say fucking RAG is not fit to wipe a cat's ass with I mean like both in terms of like actual like prose style literature journalism journalism and the knock on evil that they've produced in the world soldier of Fortune. Magazine is superior every single Soldier of Fortune is just insane guys lying whose entire faces aviator sunglasses. It's being like. Yeah I was actually. We made the head of the contras and he's never left Missouri. It's just like like the Bernie presidency. The government should secretly by soldier soldier of Fortune. And it just like a pen pal program for insane guys and then you just make sure they don't shoot up anything whereas the Atlantic track record far far then. Even the fantasies of the people who ran into soldier of Fortune magazine are Major League. Evil here all right. So this is a courtesy of Derek Thompson. Staff staff writer at America's worst magazine the Atlantic. Why is the young left out to get? Booed adjudged four theories. The candidate represents a new age of Democrats Democrats without representing its politics. Young Progressives on the Internet don't seem to like pizza to judge nor do voters. They've called him. The most obnoxious type of millennial a boomer wrapped up millennials clothing. A build a bear for middling Democrats and candidate seemingly dreamed up by some Democratic National Committee Algorithm them a Baggie full of uncut special interest talking points and a grab bag of gifted and talented party tricks. Buddha judges a young person's idea of an old person and evidently some sort of bag all right. Here's what on the links to all those insults he chose all of the most Just inartful where soy fucking we. Bullshit imagine called a rat facebook he he's been called a CIA opium warlord from Afghanistan. I mean he's at call these things all these by me personally quotas he's called fucking T.. Eight hundred program to cut entitlements. He he has been called a satanic bread. SCAMMER ALL GREG Evidently some sort of bag Can think of one type of is these di no like how all the insults in the article or like Pitas been told. Turn on your monitor. My do all twelve. He's been told to get shocked bootlicker. He's been insulted by some of the most insufferable Dork. Call the CORNCOB. Three hundred eighty five thousand times by people who who's next tweet is like. Hey all I just got banned pleased with me follow. Follow me all right. So the online left is not the electorate and its views. Don't represent a generation of voters wrong. Well well I mean the the views of the on line left shall we say broadly certainly represent more people than read the Atlanta abdomen basis. That's for sure but youthful distaste tastes for Buddha. Judge isn't an internet illusion in a recent in a recent Quinnipiac poll buttigieg placed second in the Democratic field. Among voters over fifty. Nice young boy he was given a worthy handy. By ninety percent of voters of the twenty five live year t-bill he has been the last words of thousands in hospice care. Ever get to vote for him but he earned just two percent support among young voters under thirty five. His popularity among those aged thirty five to forty nine is about as high as overall number three. The judge is tightly. Concentrated among the young. This level of vitriol is confusing for several reasons. Buddha jets thirty seven would be the youngest elected president in American back in history. Nobody ought to vote for judge or anyone for that matter just because they almost share a birthday but one might think that historic youthfulness would be enough to buy him at at least say. Three percentage points of the national youth vote. Why yeah you just said you shouldn't do that? You shouldn't picks if you know what gala paired. If if you shouldn't pick people for that reason the no one should What Derek Thompson against staff writer for America's Most Evil Magazine USA Shift Ah is saying here is like look? It was entitled to a vote. Just because they're relatively of the same age cohort but he should be entitled to probably be pulling at least twenty five thirty report titled to Twenty Five Percents so like double digits at the very least yes. By virtue of his age alone what's more buttigieg receives the sort of scrutiny. When might expect back from a front runner despite being behind in national polls Joe Biden represents the far greater threat? To the young left's favoured candidate Bernie Sanders. Wrong wrong well. We'll see we'll see we'll see but okay. Joe Biden represents the far greater threat to the young left's favoured candidate Bernie Sanders but biting seems to avoid much of the highly personal intimacy heaped on his part of. It is thinking about this. I mean like I honestly think of this point per biden is a bigger threat realistically than anyone else. Use numbers going going down but if they don't go down a little bit more could be really problematic. The problem is for people who was politics is based around. You know the online own. It's hard because there's literally no Biden voters on the Internet. Yeah the biding voters on the Internet. You run into are incredibly pleasant. Yeah because drug to anything. Yeah so you're not going to be able to be like the me of the guy the alien yelling at Picard hard. That's going to be. You tried to talk to the Biden voters going to be going over their heads. Try telling Biden voter. He's Corncob well. It's not grilling season yet. I saw one. I did see you want hardcore. Abidin voter wants online. WHO's very online? And in her bio she had Hashtag Biden Front by front. It was an offshoot of the Chetniks. Here's the thing I I think he does kind of get why people judge is more viscerally repellent to someone like Joe Abidin. Even though they were roughly represent Joe Biden's career certainly vastly outstrips people digital. Yeah the evil that he's committed in his life which looks like we said at thirty seven is still a very impressive. Joe had already been able to win state wide races. Yes that elected thirty forty nine technically. He made confusing comments to literally everyone in Delaware in an afternoon and they elected him by a clam he went around and said Oh. This just looks like a dog afternoon. People people were like why okay. I'll vote for you all right so what's going on here. Let's begin with the most straightforward explanation number number one. Don't over think it. They hate him because he's not a socialist and his early state. Poll numbers arising. This is the obvious answer and frankly it might be the only answer. Shut up now in the past two months. No candidate has gained more than Buddha judge in the early states. If he wins in Iowa and New Hampshire he could block Bernie Sanders path to the nomination and this deeply concerns young progressive activists who rightly see. The Democratic primary is a zero sum competition to lead the party and they winnable election. Are you listening to that worn tips. Yeah yes at least. This guy understands it attention Elizabeth Warren supporters a zero sum competition party in a winnable election. It has the potential to redefine the democratic platform for a decade or longer indeed Sir Warren supporters say. Why don't they form a unity ticket? Now I don't know is that not a thing. uh-huh saying it isn't Footage far more than Biden has the youth and vigor to command the party for the next generation. Speaking of Dr Machen to log Rachad And this makes him the graver threat to those arguing for socialist revolution. This explains this explanation. Takes US pretty far but I'm not sure it quite captures. The level of sulfuric hate eight in the progressive objections to his candidacy. I'm going to skip ahead here. He doesn't mention his face. Our voice at any point during the I mean like if to be totally honest like someone someone with identically shitty policies to Pete Amy Klobuchar. Don't hate her. Why she's honest honest about who she is she never made a tweet? That was like Blah. I sense fail for Medicare for all. She is who she is can't hater you. Have you have another reason for lose. There's one I wanted to come to yell at me for not having a couch you stupid piece a shit where people supposed to sit you. Don't think about anything thing that'd be awesome number to keep not over thinking it. They also hate him because they think he's a liar. There's no question that Buddha judge glimpsing an opening in the moderate lane has tacked the center in the past few months initially seemed to support Medicare for all now. He openly criticizes the effect. It would have on private insurance. Employment initially proposed radical government reforms such as packing the Supreme Court and removing the FILIBUSTER. But now he's recast himself as a moderate unifier as a result the left him not just as any moderate but as a moderate masquerading as a wonder kid grassroots progressive. When my colleague Elaine Godfrey spoke with Sandra supporter in North Carolina? He told her that pretty judge quote threatens to put fresh face on the most nakedly cynical underbelly of the post triangulation Democratic Party. Sign that kid up. Sign them up. CAPRIO call them up for the young left. Political moderation might be a misdemeanor but eloquent moderation donning the costume of Progressive Activism is. I agree phoniness. That merits the punishment of crude criticism the punishment. Oh Hey hey. Hey Hey Derek. Eric political moderation. That's not a misdemeanor to me and the thing you just described it deserves something but not crude criticism criticism. This is what we do because I don't have any real power number three over think it a little bit. Young people hate him because he's a traitor to his generation. Okay okay starting to get a little bit warmer here a little bit more. Want to dig down into the depths. Heralds get let's go generational identity is arguably the most important dividing line. The Democratic Party more than class race or education as Everett. The young left has become a kind of third party awkwardly domiciled within the Democratic Party Buddha judge judge however as a traitor to his generation. He has a thirty something. Millennial who appeals mostly middle aged and older white voters in this way. His candidacy violates a certain unwritten law of the US electoral politics. American voters have historically appreciated candidates who from associate economic perspective identify down Franklin D Roosevelt was a traitor to the upper class. Trump is the real estate billionaire. Who speaks for coal miners? Bernie Sanders is the SEPTUAGENARIAN senator. who rallied the young left? But there's not a deep history of successful candidates who appeared to identify up like a young non millionaire small town mayor who aligns himself with cosmopolitan capital identifying down can.

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"elaine godfrey" Discussed on Radio Atlantic

Radio Atlantic

10:28 min | 1 year ago

"elaine godfrey" Discussed on Radio Atlantic

"Komo Isaac Trevor so the Democratic race has been going on for months now but the only major shift has been the rise of Elizabeth Warren and the relative decline Bernie Sanders way on the debate stage on Tuesday Sanders Campaign so that's why we got Elaine Godfrey assistant editor here also covers Democrats here the Atlantic to talk with me Elaine thanks for being here in Radio Atlantic and I had set that up as kind of a you know it was Bernie's first major public appearance since his heart attack and so it was me being like are these supporters still be they went on they got way more confident and in the end everyone was like he did great he's five Bernie's back baby yeah I think it was one of the striking things about the debate and there were people who were joking around before him sort of a dark way or what if he collapses but in fact the news of it in his that he didn't and that he was in really good form right and I think you could argue in better form than people who are younger than he does including Joe Biden who stumbled at a bunch of points and sanders did not and stood there for three hours is a three hour the longtime for anybody who's saying it was a long time for me to sit there and I didn't have to do it yeah he he looked great he really did as soon as he I think he was trying to get the moderators attention he shot his hand into the air like he does and everyone in the bar cheered and shot their hands into the air they were clearly just extremely encouraged by his energy his you know he cracked some jokes it really was a good debate for him you know like you you just would not have known that you know two weeks ago he had a stent procedure yeah he was sort of looser than he usually is then he has been at the four times like he was yeah super casual it was it was impressive so let's take a step back the sanders campaign was not in great shape before the heart attack it's not just a question of the health he has been lower in the polls than he had been certainly planning to be wanting to be I well behind Elizabeth Warren well behind Joe Biden who are in the tops botts but of course the war in one is interesting question because people usually see them as drawing from the same place even though they really don't but they are both on the left side of the party how much trouble was the burning campaign anything before the heart attack so I think they were in and a little bit of trouble it didn't seem to me like we're nearing the end of the campaign right I don't to be fair though I don't know when if ever he will drop out before like I think he's in it to win it basically well he's in it to be in it that's the other part of this was in two thousand sixteen the campaign a lot there was a part of the campaign that was about actually competing for the nomination but it was sandwiched between and when he got into the race to try to push Hillary Clinton to the left and then as it started to work in a while maybe he could actually win and then they were pushing that and then it reached the point where they were still kind of pushing for the ideas that they wanted and and not really thinking that they were going to win the nomination they knew what the math was is there came a point where they realized that their biggest influence if they kept pushing in a way that was still winning delegates but not going to compete it was to be able to shape the platform at the convention and that became the goal and then they in fact did that I and of course everything that's flowed out of the two thousand sixteen campaign from his influence on the Party sorta stems from that totally I mean they were debating Medicare for all the top candidates have all adopted Bernie's twenty sixteen ideas right this is you know he has already had this amazing power over the conference Russian and and how it's taken a shift I do think though you know he's he is still in it to win it I think he really thinks he can do it but at the very least he has enough money that he will be in this as long as he wants to be exactly right and the support is strong with him people who are ready to be in this first longest he isn't it you know so part of the reason why I went to this debate watch was to say did you how did you pause when he had a heart attack did it make you think okay who is my plan B. and they said you know yeah it made us worried but you know we're here for the rebels Russian right like we're here the political revolutionist bigger than he is his campaign slogan not me US right it's they even say had several people actually said to me if he gets elected and he's an office and he dies in office after a couple of years in office the the appointments that he's made and the the changes that he's made already you know having been president for a couple of years means the revolution will live on basically and they said you know we expect him to appoint a young likely female running-mate sort of address that in case he dies someone someone young can carry on the revolution which I thought was a really interesting and morbid way of looking at it it is this the campaigns always say it's not about me and that is a slogan yeah it's a strange thing for a campaign to have supporters who say like you might die but that's okay like that it's really not about the candidate but it's idea it's a cult of personality in a way but the sense that the personality is bigger than the body that is holding personnel right and no Elizabeth Warren supporter that I've talked to whatever I don't think whatever say you know she dies but her at her ambitions will will carry on you know if she elected president like I just don't see that that's where the other person who is just round Sanders Age Joe Biden did not hear anybody who is supporting the Biden campaign. Well that's okay we'll just get him in and even if he doesn't last term like that's fine right yeah it's a crazy argument for someone but but the same time it's it's interesting that they're unprompted right I didn't ask them we'll the revolution go on they have they've given this thought which is fascinating and rally on Saturday he'll also he was immediately endorsed by also Ilan Omar Kochman from Minnesota and Richard it's Lebron congressman from Michigan three of the four members of the squad the fourth member on a Presley from Massachusetts is Ellie so far sitting out and had but these three very prominent young female progressive aggressive members of Congress freshman members of Congress will be within what do you think that means campaign I think the campaign is extremely excited his supporters are extremely excited what is it about it that excites them because to me what's interesting about it is that it is a clear sign that he's not going anywhere right that and that seems to be it's not like an nobody's surprised Oh Alexandra Qazi Cortez how could you possibly landed in supporting sanders I it most people thought she'd either not make an endorsement or wouldn't I sanders are worn it was not like she was really up for grabs in a big way but doing it now has risks for her I think but it also is the best news for the Sanders Campaign totally I mean he he is at his weakest point or he was right like he's physically weak he has had a heart attack he struggling in the polls like this is a real Move for her to say I still endorse him for all of them say I still endorsed And I think I think had she endured Warren which I don't I don't think she ever would have I think she would either it's either sanders or nothing is what I was expecting but how'd she endorsed Warren I think sleeping would have been for sanders like you can't how do you move on from that and it's interesting you go to their history that last year when she's running she's in the primary against an incumbent Democrat had been there for a long time sanders did not endorse her in that race and she.

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"elaine godfrey" Discussed on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell

The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell

02:02 min | 3 years ago

"elaine godfrey" Discussed on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell

"Yeah that's that's absolutely right we can basically guess what the early morning tweets from the president are going to be tomorrow morning depending entirely on the outcome of the election the question for me is you know if this is actually if tonight is actually about political narratives going into the rest of the midterms given all the peculiarities of this district the question is you know jonathan was getting at earlier what are democrats willing to do in other races are they willing to let candidates like connor lamb pro gun anti pelosi relatively moderate candidate win in primaries where they're going to need to be like that to win general elections i think it's possible but the thing that's most struck me about his campaign is the degree to which lamb has not talked about trump on the campaign trail my colleague elaine godfrey was there just last week i believe and she was covering this and she was saying you know he might be the only democrat in the country who does doesn't want wanna talk about donald trump now he's benefiting from the antitrump energy that's in the democratic base but he's talking about issues kitchen table issues that his voters care about in the district he doesn't wanna make this a referendum on trump and i'm curious to see if other democrats in red districts are willing to follow that playbook the rest of this year they always were in the past and especially when they had the big big margins in their favor and the house representative in the senate put mckay i want you to tell us what happens inside the republican caucus room in the house representatives tomorrow no matter which way this goes i mean they're professionals all those republican house members in that room with paul ryan tomorrow they know what happened here if they're guys squeaks out by a couple of hundred votes there's going to be a tremendous warri in that room tomorrow on no matter who squeaks out this win the worry has already settled in talking to republican strategists the last couple of days.

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