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AP News Radio
El Chapo sons among 28 Sinaloa cartel members charged by US
"The Justice Department has charged 28 members of Mexico's powerful Sinaloa Cartel as part of a wide ranging fentanyl trafficking probe. Attorney general Merrick Garland says they include three sons of former cartel boss, El Chapo Guzman. Known as the chiquitos, whom DEA chief and Milgram says inherited a global drug trafficking empire. And they made it more ruthless, more violent, more deadly. Using it to spread what she calls the deadliest drug Americas ever faced. They are responsible for the massive influx of fentanyl into the United States. Only one of the three sons is in custody in Mexico. The charges target everyone from cartel leaders to alleged chemical suppliers to finance Sears when Garland calls a bid to disrupt the entire fentanyl trafficking ecosystem from start to finish Sagar Meghani, Washington.
AP News Radio
14-year-old boy arrested in Mexico for murder of 8
"A 14 year old boy accused of being a hit man in a drug related shooting is under arrest in Mexico. The boy is nicknamed capito or little Chapo after the imprisoned drug lord Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán, authorities near Mexico City alleged that in January the boy rode up on a motorcycle and opened fire on a family holding a birthday party in a Mexico City suburb, killing 8 people and leaving 5 adults and two children wounded, a man was also arrested in the killings and 7 other members of the gang were arrested on drug charges, the motive for the killings has not been made public, I'm down a water
Mark Levin
Caller: Dems Create the Conditions for Lawlessness in Communities
"Oh yeah I'm just you know it is the Democrats are of course creating the conditions that leading to the lawless environment and minority communities I mean you can see this right here in Detroit And you can start at the border with our open border policy I mean they're giving people from the cartels free bus rides into the heart of our country There's absolutely no doubt Ten years ago public enemy number one in Chicago was El Chapo the head of the Sinaloa Cartel And now everybody's surprised that they're here But the policies of mill Vail handcuffing the police and so on President Barack he was a community activist in Chicago and I police community activists in Chicago And he tried to federalize all the police for these numbers and like Baltimore and Chicago federalize the police forces in these communities which disastrous And I suppose his idea was to have one federal police force that would supersede all other police forces And this is just flat out socialism You know I think that's what you were talking about
AP News Radio
US drug trial opens for Mexico ex-security head
"Mexico's former top security official in charge of fighting drugs goes on trial today in Brooklyn, New York on charges he accepted millions of dollars in bribes to help cartel members avoid capture and move drugs into the U.S.. Ganeri Garcia Luna was Mexico's security secretary between 2006 and 2012. U.S. prosecutors accuse him of accepting tens of millions of dollars often in briefcases as bribes to protect and help the Sinaloa drug cartel. They say he continued to live off that money after moving to the U.S., where he was arrested in 2019. The defense says he was a legitimate businessman, some accusations against Garcia Luna surfaced at the El Chapo trial and witnesses at this trial will also include high level cartel members, jury selection begins just days after President Biden met with Mexican president Lopez Obrador, who welcomes the trial and has pledged continued cooperation with the U.S. against drug cartels. Julie Walker, New York
Based On a True Story
"el chapo" Discussed on Based On a True Story
"South Africa. Then reading the letter, I regret to report a very disastrous engagement, which took place on the morning of the 22nd of January between the armies of the Zulu king catch away. And our own number three column consisting of 5 companies of the first battalion, 24th regiment of foot. And one company of the second battalion, a total of nearly 1500 men officers and other ranks. The zulus in overwhelming numbers launched a highly disciplined attack on the slopes of the mountain is N duana. And in spite of gallant resistance, the column was completely annihilated. Then the sound of burning fire can be heard as we're transported to the battlefield. Flames are eating away at what remains of wagons, carts, and other military equipment. The grounds are littered with red uniforms of dead soldiers. After this, the rest of the movie takes place on the rest of January 22nd and then into the 23rd. So we won't cover the entire thing here. Maybe that'll be a regular more in depth episode of based on a true story in the future. But if we fast forward to around two hours and ten minutes into the movie, at the very end, we get some more narration that says in the hundred years since the Victoria Cross was created for valor and extreme courage, only 1344 have been awarded. 11 of them were given to the defenders of the mission station at work's drift, natal, January 22nd to the 23rd, 1879. That last little bit of narration in the movie highlights the significance of the event. By that, what I mean is that the events of the 22nd and 23rd of January are to date the most ever Victoria crosses being awarded for a single action to a single unit. With that unit being the 24th regiment of foot. They were awarded 7 of the 11 total Victoria crosses the movie mentions for given to an other unit. When about 150 British soldiers defended the station against over 3000 Zulu warriors. If you want to watch the event this week, check out the 1964 movie, Zulu. This episode is based on a true story this week was written and produced by me, Dan lefevre. Before I let you go, well, not historical events, there are some birthdays this week for people who have been mentioned in movies or TV shows. On January 17th, 1706, Benjamin Franklin was born in Boston, Massachusetts. He's been played by a lot of people from Orson Welles in 1960 ones Lafayette to Tom Wilkinson and HBO's John Adams and Michael Douglas in an as yet to be released original on Apple TV plus simply called Franklin. If you want to learn more about the real Benjamin Franklin though, there was a great two part documentary named after him by Ken burns that was released in 2022. On January 18th, 1854, Thomas Watson was born in Salem, Massachusetts. He was best known for assisting Alexander Graham bell in the invention of the telephone, Watson was portrayed by Henry Fonda in the 1939 movie called the story of Alexander Graham bell. On January 20th, 1930, Buzz Aldrin was born in montclair, New Jersey. He's still alive today, which means it is 93rd birthday this week. Happy birthday buzz. He was played by Larry Williams in the 1995 movie, Apollo 13. We covered that movie way back on episode number 15 of based on a true story. Aldrin was also portrayed by Corey stall in 2018s first man. And we covered that one here on the podcast too. Back on episode number 144. As a fun little bit of trivia, Aldrin has done some acting of his own in movies like transformers, dark of the moon, and TV shows like The Simpsons and futurama. If you're finding some value in based on a true story, you can support the podcast over at based on a true story podcast dot com slash support. There you can also learn how to get ad free versions and help keep the show going. Until next time, thanks so much for listening and I'll chat with you again. Really soon.
Based On a True Story
"el chapo" Discussed on Based On a True Story
"Hello and welcome to based on a true story this week, where we'll look at how movies depicted historical events that happened between January 16th and January 22nd. Let's get into it. January 19th, 2001, puente grand day maximum security prison, Mexico. A prison door clang shut. He's rattle as the guard locks it, then walks down the hallway away from the camera. In the next shot, two men cling together their glasses in some sort of celebration. One of the men tells the other something about killing someone, then they embrace before he walks away. Left behind is Marco de la owes version of Joaquin Guzman better known by his nickname El Chapo. Cut to a laundry room in the prison and a man pushes a huge white cart filled with laundry. Prison guard unlocks one of the gates as the man rolls the logic cart through. Meanwhile, in another room, El Chapo hastily takes off his prison clothes and puts on a police uniform from a plastic garbage bag. The man with the longer cart opened an exterior door, the bright sun outside a stark contrast to the dark prison interiors. Security cameras watch as the man pushes the cart through a door in the chain link fence. Meanwhile, another man is making his rounds calling off the prisoner's names in their cells. When he gets to El Chapo's cell, the man calls out his name. Joaquin. No reply. Joaquin? Still nothing. He looks inside to find an empty cell. All of a sudden, the prison is a flurry of activity, armed police arrive to storm the prison and find the missing prisoner. When they do, El Chapo is already wearing a police uniform and he fits right in with many of the other policemen wearing a mask over his face to conceal his identity. The policemen who finds El Chapo posits for a moment then hands him a gun. Then three of the police escort El Chapo through the prison to awaiting truck outside. He gets in and they drive away. The depiction of this event comes from Netflix's original series, simply called El Chapo, and it is true that El Chapo escaped from the maximum security prison where he was held on January 19th, 2001. However, it wasn't quite as dramatic as we see in the series in a great article for Time Magazine by Robert saviano. He explains one of the possible reasons why the escape itself wasn't quite as dramatic as the series makes it out to be. You see, El Chapo had been running his cartel from behind bars in the prison since he'd arrived in 1995. He didn't have any difficulty doing that. And it was only because there was a new law in the United States that might make it easier for him to be extradited. That made him decide he couldn't say in prison anymore. It was time to escape. And he pitched the evening of January 19th, 2001. And the true story is that El Chapo enlisted the help of a man named Francisco Rivera. He's the guy we see in the series pushing the laundry card. Rivera was a guard at the prison. He opened El Chapo's cell door and helped him climb inside the cart of dirty laundry. Then Rivera pushed the cart, down empty halls, El Chapo had made sure all the guards involved were bribed quite well. And out into a parking lot. El Chapo hopped out of the cart and into the trunk of a waiting car, then Rivera got in the car and drove away. If you want to watch the depiction of El Chapo's escape this week, check out the Netflix series El Chapo. It's shown in season two episode two and starts at about ten and a half minutes. Oh, and while this is not shown in the Netflix series, because the timeline of that show ends in 2016. But it was also on the same day, 16 years after his escape, January 19th, 2017, El Chapo was extradited from Mexico to the United States. As of this recording, he is currently serving life in prison without the possibility of parole at a federal prison in Colorado. Before we go further, today's episode is sponsored in part by Omaha steaks. So let's take a moment to hear about them. Happy 2023. I hope your holidays were wonderful. There was a huge Arctic blast of cold weather that hit us over the holidays. So one thing I did to help stay warm was to cook up some delicious food. Where I'm at in the U.S. any time there's a winter storm coming, the grocery stores get packed and things are sold out as people prepare to hunker down for the duration of the storm. Thankfully, I've got a freezer full of Omaha steaks. So I was able to avoid the busy stores and still enjoy an amazing home cooked meal. In particular, I really loved their premium chicken. It was perfectly juicy and hit the spot on a cold day. And right now, the fine folks over at Omaha steaks have a fantastic sale going on to help you fill your freezer with flavor. Omaha steaks is not just steak, it's the best steak of your life. Guaranteed, order with
AP News Radio
Son of "El Chapo" arrested in Mexico ahead of Biden's visit
"Analysts say a Mexican carpos arrest is a gesture to the U.S., not a signal of a stronger drug war policy. Mexico's Lopez and brado says pursuing drug coppers is not his priority where military forces cornered a video Guzman for son of former cartel boss El Chapo Guzman in 2019, the president ordered him freed to avoid loss of life. Now former DEA analyst Mike vigil says the capture of Guzman is more in order to a drug war response rather than indicating major change. I think that Mexico wants
AP News Radio
Son of "El Chapo" arrested in Mexico ahead of Biden's visit
"Violence erupted in a Mexican cartel stronghold Thursday as the military captured the son of the imprisoned former crime boss known as El Chapo. Mexico's defense secretary Louis Sandoval confirmed that a video el raton Guzman, a son of drug kingpin Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán, was arrested in a pre dawn operation yesterday outside the western city of culiacan, alleged Sinaloa Cartel members responded by carjacking residents, setting vehicles on fire, and attacking a military base were authorities flew Guzman out and route to Mexico City, witnessed David teles, so he skirted several abandoned vehicles on the way to the city's airport with his family. He
The Charlie Kirk Show
As NYC Crime Surges, Police Focus Attention on 9-Year-Old Girl Without Vaccine Card
"City, let me tell you what's going on in New York City right now. Every category of serious crimes, according to New York Post, in the city is on the rise so far this year, with police data showing an increase of 35% in a total increase in crime compared to the same time in 2021. Jessica Seymour, from inwood, Manhattan says, quote, I don't go anytime after dark right now, not safe. All my friends in New York are leaving. Or they are. They stay at home when it becomes night. A guy got stabbed and another guy shot right outside my son's window, said Seymour, whose boy is 7. We have two schools here, and this happens right here. My block has police on it all the time. There are shootings that are drug dealers on our corner right now. The fear is real, crimes are up. So what is the police force of New York City wasting their time doing? What is the focus of the New York police department that of course has our eternal respect after what happened with 9 11, but they've turned into an American version and I do not use this lightly of the Stasi. Play the tape, I'm going to narrate it. So here you have right here at a museum in New York City. That is a 9 year old girl. Now, I'm not trying to racialize this. Her name is jaila. I think she is a black girl. Is that right? So this is a black girl being escorted right there by two masked New York City police department, police officers, all the while crimes, murders, arsons, rapes, sexual assaults, are up, these two police officers are effectively arresting a 9 year old girl. Why? Because she did not have her vaccine papers at a museum. These two police officers now continue and bring the 9 year old girl into a squad car and put her in like she's El Chapo or Eric Rudolph or Ted Kaczynski the uniform. You know, forget the fact that gang activity is up and robbery and murders are up. This is a young black girl that has been put into a police department car and escorted up. Where is Black Lives Matter exactly? Protesting this? Now, what's her crime? Her crime is not being
Hard Factor
"el chapo" Discussed on Hard Factor
"To mexico y'all if you play the lottery in mexico then get ready to shake the dust off las numero. S- day swear day because the former safehouse of drug kingpin el chapo. Guzman will be soon given away in a national lottery. That's nice is yeah. This particular safehouse is best known for being surrounded by mexican marines back in february of two thousand fourteen right before that slippery. El chapo escaped via trap door under his bathtub in into an elaborate tunnel system. He'd constructed so that's pretty cool. Well the best house for hide-and-seek ever it would be seeing. You might hide. Never get found you. You might have the hatch. Fish note will find. You won't find a stack of hundreds true. You never know it could be a bonus guys. The marines apparently did a number on the property will searching for the world's most notorious drug lord so some repairs were necessary in recent weeks. Mexico's institute to return stolen goods to the people gave casa in kula gone a fresh coat of white paint inside now they tiled over the spot in the bathroom where the tub and tunnel entry point had been and they brought a priest exercise all the trapped souls. Okay yeah definitely some dead people into they do. They cover up the bullet holes too. Yeah itsel. I just said paint but gotta have wall there to paint. No amount of pain will get rid of this. Anyway they're never gonna stop people from using those tunnels no matter how many times they cover them up. They're just going to get open back up again. Have you ever been in a house with a tunnel. The first thing you ask the person when you get their houses. Where's the tunnel right. yes soleil conceal it. Up this per- whoever's in house next opening up the tunnel. I was in that house. One time that allegedly had a tunnel from the hill up up up above the comedy store in los angeles down the comedy store and like there was a party there. All we did the whole party. Try to find it across and shit so we could find the fucking tunnel. It's all we. Did you know what metal detector in that tunnel. Oh yeah who des this goose like how little mexican people give a fuck about like like Museums in house tours. Because this would be a perfect like you know how to make a museum like elders house. Like it'd be great for a tour like what they did with alcatraz. I don't think it's about the fucks given more the. I don't care the money hat. According to the associated press the house was Well located for its previous purposes. There is only one neighbor on one side And on the other side is a subterranean storm sewer system about five foot six inches tall about thirty six inches in waste. I mean with the twenty eight hundred square foot house features reinforced steel doors. Iron barred windows in every room is outfitted with a floor drain. So that's all know. That's how much killing was going on. In this house. Nam kitten jokes schism in floor. But probably ordering the probably. Wow don't you wanna live in less going on and most notorious killer yet. The homes valued at one hundred eighty thousand dollars in tickets or twelve dollars a piece another twenty two total properties as part of this giveaway in the lottery. No word on how many tickets are being sold and what the odds are. But i think it's safe to say you have at least as good of a chance of having been murdered by all chapeau. Which for the record is one in four to three thousand proceeds will go to mexico's olympic athletes who have not already been murdered by chapo. The most corrupt lottery ever hurt. There's no alive he's alive. He's he's deals with the with the feds from inside. He's so little so tiny he's fire six should. He's going to be mad when they learned that they got rid of his blood drains. Yeah you stopped up my drain. You don't think he's going to rig the lottery to have it be all his boys winning the tunnel so all getting every tunnel back they did. I didn't realize this about 'cause like the famous tunnel was the one that he escaped from prison. But that was after this tunnel like people chapo just like a tunnel guy and somehow he kept fooling them. Let's take to Let's ticket to finland guys you may have heard of the old adage don't mess with mother nature and thought to yourself. Yeah but why. And that's exactly would finish. Researchers thought when they introduced caterpillars of the beautiful glenville hillary which is a butterfly a beautiful butterfly to the finish. A all land archetype alonzo west as part of a study of how the emerging butterflies would disperse across the landscape and again. Who's paying for this science. That's a study this is like donating to feed trade dogs and cats instead of feeding the children. Get your priorities right science. I mean unless i missed it and cancer and aids aren't still a thing. Yeah there's there's the big three and then everything else should matter. Yes i guess you know. Do your butterfly studies and you're going to get served right. Yeah these big brain wasting nerds. Totally at their plan backfire on them some of the caterpillars he's contained a parasitic wasp called the hypo solder horticulture which bursts from the caterpillar before it can pugh pate and become butterfly wasps inside the caterpillars terrible. It's like when you're trying to take a corona virus from a bat and infected on human mouse and stuff and if you think that's bad will and if he thought that this was bad enough and just listen up because living inside. Those wasps was another. Even tinier rare parasite loss called the hyper. Paris toyed wasp. Yeah not little. Wasp lives said the bigger wasp. That lives inside. The caterpillars kills the parasitic wasp. The bigger one around the same time that the wasp kills the caterpillar and then emerges ten days later from the caterpillar's carcass victorious. And that's not the worst of it. See inside the female versions of the bigger wasps is yet another. Bacteria called the wool. Bochica pippen itis that somehow increase the susceptibility of the beer wasps to being taken over by the tinier wasps who can only even exist inside the wasp so like fuck. It's not good. Turns out that all these parasites have quote superior flying skills and are now being found on all the other islands and now the whole arp Archipelago has a russian doll nightmare. Waas problem and no fucking butterflies days. That sucks so you're joke earlier reminded me of joke. You're talking about the scientists carrying like cancer and stuff like that and nor mcdonald's. Yeah i mean it's great that scientists are working on diseases but shouldn't work it on like curing death. I his house that same one. Where about ended it with the cancer. Yeah exactly he's like. I got this disease. The doctor cures. Oh great thanks talk. Am i still gonna die goes. Oh yeah you're gonna die. R.i.p norm cam guys. I can't believe that they did this. I learned about the consequences of doing shit like this over the course of two hours back in two thousand four two thousand four. I'm sorry you guys were there. While i was watching the ashton kutcher. Amy smart classic the butterfly effect. These.
Game of Crimes
"el chapo" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"All i can tell you is that i can't eat my underwear like that dude did and small town because my underwear so far up my colon. Just fainter factor on this episode. Was like a ten and a half we tell you. Do we tell you. We're gonna hear the real story about what really happened down there. And all this having tea-and-crumpets paul's in the middle of a fricken gun epic gun battle and cars are getting shot up. You know we're not trying to make light of it. But i'm telling you this is like the mike neil episode pete when people hear this and they hear the people that were really involved not some wanker and wanna who writes a book like the first guy who took all the credit for capturing el chapo the wanker by the way steve. I don't know if i told you this. This guy was actually a deputy sheriff in kansas lincoln county. Kansas could not make the highway patrol. So guess what he applied for and got got accessible token thanks. Hey he's anyway. This is the story and these guys told it right. This is teamwork. it took analysts took the cooperation. I'll tell you a much respect. We have put onto the website go to our website. I put the link to the video of the shootout with mexican marines. And they when they talk about the one guy in the red shirt being a bad ass and they worked with this guy. Wait till you got to go see the video game of crimes podcast dot com and see the video of this shootout when they finally it was the last gun battle as they were going after guzman. But i'm telling you. Hey we also wanted to give you a quick update too on the wife. And steve. When we talked with abe and paul they were they were saying. Hey look.
Game of Crimes
"el chapo" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"That's everley well dot com so once once he moved again so he went off the radar probably for at least a month. After the escape he went off the radar. We know we. We knew the circumstances and who had transported him because we're able to capture the pilot once he once he got out of the tunnel they drove him to a clandestine airstrips. Not very far away a few miles. He was put on a little cessna and flown up into the mountains of durango and so then we lost track of him and it wasn't until Probably another month is when we started getting indications about the location and durango up on the mountain top where we knew he was gonna probably stay somewhat long term until we started planning the operation To go after and try and capture them there in durango And that's where we ended up having the encounter. Sean penn and do well. Yeah we're gonna get into that minute because he's my he's my favorite piece of shit to pile on. Because i can say things like that. I don't have to worry about the government well until i filed my taxes. Just remember that if you guys are listening but so when is when did you finally because the thing about this is murphy. Hate to bring this up but they did in. Six months took jp eighteen months to do so. There are three times more efficient. I would say wouldn't you. Yeah but they kept letting them get away. We only want we only let me get away once and he did it in style to but basically the same thing to you know obviously a lot of corruption the same things that lead into so for you paul at your level. What were you coordinating. I mean you had a lot of us plates spinning in the air at this point. How were you able to manage all of that stuff and still keep the focus on el chapo. Because you can't let other things stop simply because you've got one guy who's escaped. He's a big target right. But how do you manage all the resources the constraints you know to make sure that people like abe and the other folks in the field have what they need to get this job done. Well we what we did was a lot of this. Goes back to my s. od. When i was worked in special operations and one of the things we did a special operations with support to the field. So i knew we were going to need more support. I knew we were going to need more resources so with. So de we worked so closely with them and carl. Pike the head of the mexican sections so carl i told him. Hey we need resources. We need extra bodies to come down here and help us manage this and help us with the intel and help us with the communications and so we got a team from s deed. Come down and we also had you know some agents come in from some of the other agencies that were working on this. We got them to centralize all of the resources in our office. So we had one stop shopping of all the different intel that was coming in from whatever agencies and then we started you know we brought in a significant amount of extra air resources to provide air.
Game of Crimes
"el chapo" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"This guy mario was no fan of the us right and he was actually because we had such a great working relationship with the prior attorney. General he right when he came in. He said no no cooperation with any other federal agencies. Everything has to be go through. One person. right will be one person point of contact for everything well again. We have hundreds of agents in mexico many offices. There's no way one person could coordinate all of this. But when abe and i went over there and said hey this is outrageous. He's like what's the big deal. The guys done twenty-eight years. What do you want more like well. Why and he shouldn't have been released. Because there's an extradition request a warrant. You know from the us. So if he was released he should have been extradited immediately to the us so that was obviously a big issue and then his whole attitude about. I don't understand why you know. He was just like very dismissive. Until the the press that came out in the us and the political reaction from congress and and others that you know whiplashed back on mexico that that's the only reason he decided to try and do anything which which was really nothing except appeal. The decision of the judge to release him was appealed to the supreme court. And finally the supreme court ruled. He's he should never have been released. So that was that was kind of the environment of all the sudden. We don't have the attorney general's office to really work closely with because that's totally flipped. But now we have the navy that can operate throughout the whole country. And so then we started the different investigations. And and and where. Da is is so well positioned to do. This is because we have you know we have hundreds and hundreds of investigations actively going on in the us that are directly linked back to mexico where they're doing wire intercept. They're doing blackberry intercepts. At the time. All of this directly on targets or in mexico so from our network of da and operations we knew more about what was going on in mexico and had the direct access an intelligent and cases ongoing and communications to know who were the most key who were the key people to go after and start neutralizing to try and degrade the cartel and to be able to at some point. Get to chapo. And so that's what we started doing. And the so we have to add onto that also the now we need resources to go after karo can terro as well where where we add in time on this right now. What what is because. What we don't want to do is mixed the stories for the folks in other words. Was this the first escape of chop or the second escape shop that we're talk this this is this is before the first capture february fourteenth. So this is okay. He'd be he's been in the wind since one thousand nine hundred thirty and he he's been lamb for thirteen years now going on thirty years. Got so you've got a lot of high value targets. Your resources are being spread thin. And obviously when you say child who was the third target you talked about. Carol caro quintero el chapo and my zimba is my samba. And what was his significance. He was an aide can talk about it more. but he's super old guard as well. His his involvement goes back all the way back to the beginnings of the guadalajara cartel. He was a young lower level..
Game of Crimes
"el chapo" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"Get back to episode nine part two the hunt for el chapo. The world's most dangerous fugitives folks. Hang on because this is going to be a wild ride. Why are they so different than everybody else. What made what was it. Culturally historically about the mexican marines. The navy that made them did they kind of innocence incorruptible. I mean it. Is you know we. We see it happen even in the us. You have investigations at south because of a leak or you know. There's something that but just think in mexico where the you think hotbed of corruption. Which in a lot of areas it is that you've got this one organization that is just a stalwart that just the stand up people. What made them that way. I believe that the admiral who had the vision. Who's been there for over mean young young early smart had all the Of course all the intelligence this unit built from the ground up and had all the access we started working with him since two thousand eight on the us and all the way up to the tail. And you gotta remember that. The locker tell wasn't worked up as much as we did until him around until we start targeting chapel as well so he had not had all the right intelligence with all the also soup in the embassy but major major intelligence came out of the year when we actually hunted. We hunted chapel morgan. What you gotta understand is and this really. Was the game changer. As far as once we once. I got there and my first six months. They're all i did was a twenty times a day. Go abe. why can't we do this or a. Why is this like this. Or abe are you kidding me. We can't you know just kind of learning. You know what we could do what we couldn't do the the interagency of mexico and you know just kind of how things ran and what opportunities we had but what the game changer was not only an i saw this in columbia because so i use the columbia experience in columbia columbia national police that had countrywide authority right. And there's a lot of columbia national police and they have -nificant paramilitary capabilities. And so when you're working with the national police and we were dealing directly with general serrano the head of the police and he would authorize operations. We had countrywide whatever counterpart from the columbia. National police had authorization to do to get resources to move pieces around the country. And without telling you know the local command what they were doing or why they were doing it. And that was the issue in mexico. Was you really. We didn't have a unit could just go countrywide and take their own inherent support and you know capable operational capabilities. They the especially with the federal police. They didn't really have a military or paramilitary kind of operation so they would have to go to the local either police or the local military. And we'll information would get out and it would get compromised so here you have this unit that had was able to operate in very challenging environment and had credible amount of experience dealing with very violent groups and also you know was beyond because for them. It was life or death. They had to protect information and protect intelligence and protect their identities because for them it was life or death right if they weren't good at keeping secrets disasters..
Game of Crimes
"el chapo" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"You know negatively impact. Well i had after. After steve left damage to get rid of it. So that's therapy worked. Pot comes in with a huge huge hair almost an afro and look at now. He's almost that is to blackbeard to this. Mr mr steve murphy tainted me. We need to talk to you about a very serious issue here. Paul it involved. D. devolved the issue of bribery. Did you or did you not offer a three dollars to advise you when it was safe to leave the building because somebody we all know and love. Derek maltz was taking attendance. Actually what was interesting about that was that it was not a denial. It's not a denial yet. Now it's not an sounded allow but it was actually even better because it was my boss the time who's a incredible guy. You should get him on the show. Jamie hunt talking about the stories but jamie was stone cold new yorker and just you know incredibly respected very quiet. Very you know behind the scenes. But he's the one that did it kind of like new york thing of the twenty dollars. He taped it to steve screen and said twenty dollars. One dollars three bucks wanting just so you know jamie end up becoming the special agent charge the new york phil division which is one of our biggest divisions anywhere in the world so extremely intelligent guy so we've established that you would sink to those depths just to avoid responsibility. Come on you can. I can't believe yourself out for three bucks. No but but morgan morgan. You knowing derek. Right steve was the perfect person. We could have there. Because you know how. Manic and to have steve's smooth. Hey everything's all right. Just a calm down the perfect when the radio shack when reactor started melting down. Steve was like the control. Rod to like okay. We've got to turn this thing back so with him there. it was just. It was the best time so many great people. So many great cases and steve's demeanor and ability to because he was he was derek's the chief of staff of the whole place so he was the one that would talk. Derek off the tell you. It was a true case between joking to eat lunch. Uncle julio's one loud. And i unfortunately within the line of fire directly across from derek quality was acting like i'm picking sniper fire when somebody's landed. They said we render cyprus bosnia or something. Anyway i digress. So hey let's let's let's start. What the whole thing. We've now lead up to his. Is the hunt for el chapo. So you're in country el chapo is still out and about and in fact. He doesn't get arrested again until february of two thousand fourteen. But so. how long are you both in country. Together before l. chapels arrested. That's that that time in february of two thousand fourteen for three years so two years. Okay stephen i had this discussion. And i'm not da. So i don't know how sensitive you guys get. But the reason. I brought up people who take credit for stuff. There is some credit taken for the arrest of el chapo that i thought was a little unwarranted. So i don't know how deep you guys what i want to go deep on it but if you want to mention it or not or if you guys wanna pass over but you know a lot like i thought i go back to what you said earlier it was a we thing not a me thing not an eye thing and unfortunately sometimes when you get big incident somebody wants to make it about them as opposed to the team. And that's what. I thought happened on that first arrest. Anybody wanna disabuse me of that notion. Well i'm now. I what i would i would say is and as we go through the story. You'll see this is like a huge saga with hundreds of people involved and it evolved over time and it took a huge amount of coordination and teamwork and it. There was no one person just because somebody happened to be there. When he was grabbed that was the the fruition of chess so many different pieces and levers and other operations and other things that went on. And you know luck that this was you know one one one jet i going out and blowing up a death star. This was a lot of just incredible sacrifice and work by a bunch of people that led to the to the you know successes so that's where it needs to be focused on all of that and not you know one person claiming they did it all or they you know either. They did it all while they were down there or somebody did it all while. They're in the us you know from the us while they're in the yeah. There's and i think. I think you might be talking about the final capture there. I was actually talking about the second to the final capture right. There's the first the first capture. When were there was one of two thousand fourteen so that was the one where again we saw through through a lot of things lining up and a lot of smart decisions and people knowing mexico we were able to have success and again then you know the escape and then the final capture That you know what that was almost over four years so a lot of people that were involved there were very few people that were involved in both of them because just because of the timeframe and how you know people rotating in and out down there you know so i just. I'm going to close off on this point because we get had a little off the record. Discussion we decided. Hey we're just going to move forward but look suffice it to say it takes an entire group of people to capture somebody when you have a high value target like an l. shop all right. There is no john wayne coming in saving the day. It's really it's teamwork. it's analysts it's agents it's other agencies it's informants. It's the cooperation like you said even the The the one it seemed like an abe you kind of. I think i sent this earlier from you talking about but it seemed to me like with the navy and the mexican marines. They were one of the few groups that you could implicitly trust and you know in other words they had. You had a good working relationship with them. They seem to be the go-to for you guys. Whenever you were doing anything that required you to have an armed presence you know.
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"el chapo" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"The kudos all the Pattern the backs well. Let's let's talk about that for a second because you keep mentioning los angeles they actually. Would you agree that they were the most dangerous cartel in mexico. At that time yes qui- they actually ran amok control basically like chapel control of like twenty some states they had controlled basically all basically all of mexico throughout plus they It was an arm of force over former military concerted type of individuals. That has special training. They had of course the revilement they they had all the resources so we you told a story during our pre call that i think people ought to hear how violent were they talked about the funeral marine and the mexican navy and what vegas did at that funeral was at your story. Paul l. sale cardinals. Who don't the head of the gulf cartel that was involved with creating does his idea was to militarize the cartel and order to take over territory from scenario and all the other cartels. So that's what's really started. The spike in violence in mexico and the zet does were so outrageous the amount of violence they were willing to do and so it became this long ongoing battle with the marines against the zet as and these military style operations in one of them. Several of the marines were killed and specifically this one young marine there. I forget what state he was from but wherever they took his body back to be buried and his family obviously was attending funeral and because he had been involved in this operation. I think they'd killed one of the local commanders. The marines had ended up killing one of the locals to commanders. They sent a hit team to the funeral and killed the rest of his family members there at the funeral at the same time. This is when you started seeing you know. This is obviously after nine eleven. But you're seeing the zet does going into this disco and killing twelve people and chopping their heads off and throwing them on the dance floor. You know you're seeing things very eerily similar to what's happening in afghanistan and iraq as far as the terrorist type activities just not just the regular enforcement activities but terrorist type activities of hanging people from bridges chopping heads off those type of things. Well there was a there was another instance where they kind of came up with their own mexican plateau palumbo. You told us a story when you guys told us. A story about that were they. The nephews the mexican prosecutor on that front. I can tell you that We like they're my whole three tours. That i did in mexico. I met a lot of cops a lot of prosecutors and one of the prosecutors that actually knew says back in nineteen ninety eight was assigned to was assigned to the organized crime unit and lathi the federal job to go get a state job there and he was a prosecutor or the The attorney general for one of the states always go in this and During that time he started targeting the Abo which is the labor organization and of course he was not only did he try to make right to clean up the city but he hit the wrong houses hit the wrong people arrested people that be loud to the abo organization which led to To some trouble during this whole time they said. Hey if you don't stop within time if you don't do away with You'll taking care of weird actually sent you so within. I'm going to say with time. They actually killed two of his nephews and to show a little bit more of the Possibilities of the are due to him. They said the nephews heads to his office in a couple of any cooler one of these colours that they sell at the semi level the foam months and sure enough. he received it and But that didn't stop him because he's still became a only a good friend but he kept up Prosecuted in doing case is with us as well so and there's and there's nephews. Did they have any criminal involvement whatsoever. They had zero criminal moment. Plus they were just go. There were going to college. College kids had zero involvement with crime. They didn't even know they weren't aware so before we move on more. Let's let's just discuss very quickly. What authorities you guys had working and living in mexico has dea agents so community as dea agents all the way up to the original assistant regional directors. Would it have zero. I mean zero immunity. The only person that assigned to da that had immunity was the regional director which was parked at time. So did you. Did you have authority to carry weapons down there to protect yourself and your family. No no we had zero immunity for that as well. It was all always blink of an eye. Everything was of course. Everybody knew that We would carry it but we had no official record no official. You know like in colombia. When when stephen were down there they actually got cards. They got they were licensed. But you're saying is mexico just from a cultural legal standpoint would not allow you to even have a licensed to carry a weapon. I if you were carrying a weapon. Technically it was unauthorized correct. That is correct. And we've heard those stories to soldier. Memory made a u-turn. I think at the border just had ammo in his car and he's in jail down there for a year trying to negotiate them out. I mean it was. It's a serious offense for them. It is were you guys. They're alone or were your family's living in mexico with you. we hit. I had my family live in the three tourists that we did. I had my family in my Of course we went through some good changes. There are mexico but It was a scary time so it was obscured times there in mexico during that time. Now where did where did you and your fame and live in mexico where you're in a walled compound In mexico city we lived in a a giddy community which is a huge high rise. Their mexico city No complaints about the living style. There we had all the amenities but Going back and forth. Of course we always had armored vehicles and traveled about six miles from the The compound to the usa mic city. Does your family have bodyguards protecting them. No we had The only bodyguards was by two girls that allows looking at the six making sure that the their had no tail.
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"el chapo" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"We wanted to reach as you wanted you replied instead you ever going to turn yourself in now. Anthony has a hilarious response. He says you're our pd. It's not you it's me. I obviously have commitment issues. I apologize for standing you up. He says i will make it down and guess what his final fixture he'd does show up on. Time takes a selfie of himself turning himself in because he had about a month to do so he wanted to get his affairs in order. So i put that. He's got a lot more than commitment issues. Anything oh man what fun. Hey here's one that comes from Don't know exactly where it is but you'll get this. I think this happened to you reported thirsty. Someone broke into her home in the twelve. Hundred block of sumner street and switched out hardware in her computer with identical hardware. That doesn't work. there are no leads. That wasn't me. I'm happy to be able to log on the computer. So i can do this. Podcast that's about the extent of my technical capabilities who reports that said. Well here's here's one. I'd never had in all my years happened to me and this is the first time i've ever heard a man eats underwear to defeat the breathalyzer test what this is in canada. A i believe it's in canada. Eighteen year olds staedtler. Man tried to eat his underwear and the hope that the cotton fabric would absorb alcohol before. He took a breathalyzer catch. The provincial court. Heard this week so his name. Is david zor flu sick up at his press. Smell like shit. Oh god so. He was arrested. He ate his underwear But because he didn't blow over the point zero eight legal limit. The case was dismissed but the testimony broke up people. A judge david mcnaughton provincial court And the other thing too is they had. Apparently they had students in there for william me hey composite high as observers and they had to be removed by teachers the testimony in live in the preceding. What did they charge you with. Decent exposure who eats their underwear. Oh my god. I have never heard of that. In my tire life never heard about their. There's a i one for murphy morgan. Right coup now for the final. One steve year wasn't g zero so this is either september first nineteen zero three nineteen thirteen or nineteen twenty-three. Okay even though this comes out of the call leader in elwood indiana. That story actually originates from paris. A man cut off the hair of ninety four women. Police paris police arrest man suffering from strange and peculiar mania. No shit dude. It's searching the flat of a certain period. Cyber i i believe. I guess that's supposed to be like suburban but they call it cyber right by name. Laura emma gorge. The police found the hair of no less than ninety four women. The whole estimated by qua- theft to be worth five hundred dollars for to pay and pasta shoes. Whatever those things are less ram gorge entice the confiding creatures to his house and having hypnotized them cut off their hair his very shaving brushes bristled with what has been described as the capillary attachment of a female scalp. Oh my god what. He qualified to be a politician right. Yeah so steve. What date was september. First one thousand nine hundred three nineteen thirteen or nineteen twenty-three. Let's go with. Oh three wrong. Of course it's wrong are probably right. Everybody he just does screw with me. You know that right okay. Twenty-three wrong again okay. Let's say the other would-be nineteen thirteen. Even the da could figure out this one. Yes september i nine hundred thirteen call leader out of elwood indiana and thus concludes the liturgy for today. Thank god holy cow. How am i god. Well hey now that now that we have sufficiently enticed you. Let's get into this. This one is going to be a two parter folks. This one is been so good. These are steve's buddies a resin. Paul crane so steve. I'm gonna teed up for you and let you tee up what we're about to enjoy over the next two episodes great so you know. We've all heard different stories about el chapo guzzo. Joaquin el chapo guzman. And you wonder. What's the real story well. This week you're going to hear it. And that's what's into episode paul. And they were the number one and number two supervisors for da in mexico during topos lightest and l- asked capture. I don't think he'll ever escape again. Now these in the united states and they're going to tell you that the true story. There's some things in here that are going to curl your toes Mortgage teasing you about When you get a rental car and mexico be careful. The insurance some of the stories are going to tell you just outstanding. it's it's And here's the thing. This is a true story. It's not what you might read somebody else's books you know. People are trying to take credit for a lot of things they didn't do. So you're going to heal the true story today and on thursday as well as just. We're honored to have paul in a by. Had the pleasure of working with special operations division for a couple years A met throughout my career just never had the opportunity to work with him so This is one of those. That's rare and it's high profile because everybody in the world knows who chop pablo escobar. Everybody knows who el chapo is and the other two is. We'll have so again what we're gonna do this to potter. Were when we get out of part one just going to keep it short and keep it short getting into part too but at the end of episode part. Two of this episode. Nine stephen are going to have a quick discussion. Bring you up to speed on. What's going on with chapels wife because she was arrested at the airport at our in our county here dulles international airport so there are some things to happen but steve. Yes sir. I get asked the question. Are you ready to play the big game. All the game of crimes. Hey everybody get in sit down. Shut up and hold on. Here's comes the true story about.
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"el chapo" Discussed on MIP Make It Plain with Mark Thompson
"Sort of.
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"el chapo" Discussed on MIP Make It Plain with Mark Thompson
"A goal that I don't think song. Actually, at the top believes in, I think that there's certainly people within the DEA who really do believe in what they're doing and I've spoken to some of them. And even though I think that their mission is sort of, you know, a farce. I understand that they see it but at the top, you know, I don't see how anyone could actually believe this as the stated goals of the drug war. I think they understand that it's a useful tool for keeping governments in Mexico and line and the console pieces of that so wretched and so horrifying. And they don't seem to care. And to me, that's something morally more repulsive than, than sort of. Just just pure sort of dead read or corruption are the circumstances is Richard and it's horrifying as they were when El Chapo was in operation or has any of that subsided since his arrest or capture has anything really changed? It gets worse every year, it really does. There were certain shifts in Sinaloa with the arrest of El Chapo? You know, there was immediately after he was dead, It in 2017, there was sort of a brief power struggle between his sons and this this Lieutenant of El Chapo named Thomas or Lopez and that resulted in some way pretty bad bursts of violence in Cielo. In culiacan, including the murder of a well-known journalist, Javier Valdez who, who's motor seems to have been so part of that power struggle. But eventually get that Chapo's, Sons kind of seem to have one that power struggle damaso Lopez was arrested his son fled. And after that, I think the the, you know, settled into this sort of this, a little bit more routine, practicing alone for X from anywhere from a few days, to two weeks in 2019. And you know what I found was? That people did feel sort of nostalgic for the times that El Chapo off there. I think that they saw him as sort of a force for stability but that's, you know, lower where, you know, it's different in other places, but he has a certain sort of Hometown, following Hometown appreciation, and in seeing a lot, but I think. Overall, this sort of Kingpin strategy of arresting, the so-called like leaders of cartels has always made things worse, pretty immediately and pretty directly with it. Like I said it was ultimately sort of the fragmentation of trafficking networks and they become, you know, they're, they break up into smaller pipes and they start fighting each other, and they start focusing on more immediate ways of making money, which often includes they're turning their focus inward on the communities that they operate in which often results in just, you know, Dreadful increase in violence. And so, I, I would say that in every way that matters it has gotten worse move into a chapel was arrested. I'm not saying that he necessarily deserves to, to be a free man. I think he has a tremendous amount of of blood on his hands. But I think so do the DEA and so do the officials in Mexico who have sort of been pursuing this, this failed strategy on behalf of the of the United States and causing just a tremendous amount of lost life and and violent birth. MIP after this message. You also research this book. Throwing a journalist, of course, cumulatively you, if I'm not mistaken, you kind of put yourself In Harm's Way once or twice. Did you said it wasn't always in the safest places I will say? Yeah. So in 2019 April of 2019 I went on my first trip to Sinaloa and that was sort of my introduction to working in sort of an area like that and it was intense, you know, and I I took my my safety and and security very seriously, I wasn't trying to be Reckless. I wasn't trying to sort of you know operate with with false sense of of bravado Mexico is one of the most dangerous countries in the world for journalists. You know dozens of journalists have been killed in just in the last few years alone while I've been reporting this this book. But the sad fact of the matter is, is that, that danger Falls much more on Mexican journalists working in Mexico than it does on, you know, uh, Gringo, like me going down there to to work. I think job. There's generally a sense that it would, you know, among criminals that it would be a bad idea to get that kind of attention by by killing it. A good and go journalist. But every trip that I would take to Sinaloa home. I would in some sense that would get more comfortable because I started talking know the city better and I would, I would be able to, you know, walk around and nowhere to go. And but I I would always, you know, whenever I was in Sinaloa, I would, I had like a daily check in with a friend of mine who is the use like a press Freedom advocate in Mexico City, right? So he would know, you know, if I didn't check in he would know what to do to, you know, who could do whatever and I just, you know, I just did it. A lot of sort of pre-research knowing who I was talking to knowing where I was going telling people where I was going because I didn't want to take any chances and yeah, you know, I I had I had to talk my way through a couple like, bombed checkpoints up in the mountains and, you know, I met sort of an unpleasant guy in a, in a, in a bar, one point who asked me if I was dead GTA which to him. I was, I told him in this, I think is true. That I looked too much like a DEA agent for the DEA to ever send me to to Mexico. You know, they would never send a gringo looking like me down there. They would they just, it would be too stupid. So, you know, those that was sort of a no fracking moment. When this guy in some bar in culiacan, is asking me. But for the most part, as long as you don't do anything stupid, don't act like a joke and make sure to sort of do your research and talk to people who know the area. You know, I never felt directly threatened. Okay. Okay, folks, we invite you to check out the book just before we go they'll Chapo. The untold story of the world's most infamous drug. Lord, you mentioned your concern, for those who've been victims, probably ongoing drug war, give us a glimpse, if you would about how book a can actually, anyway be helpful or informative wage. To those who are families and survivors of drug war victims by reading your book. What people, learn and understand. So maybe, you know, push some, for lack of a better word, meaning you into what they've experienced? I believe really strongly in the ability for sort of new conversations and New Jersey methods of looking at an issue to help change public opinion and help change policy eventually. And I think that one thing that I do in my book is is dead. Try to make really strong connections between the things that we see happening on the ground and the people and institutions that helped perpetuate that you know, I think that the only way that we can begin to confront will continue to confront and begin to end this. You know, where we're at a sort of this critical moment right now where there's, you know, wage We're starting to see who sent to legalize marijuana in, you know, almost every state. They're starting to be this conversation where we're trying to acknowledge that the one drugs such as we see it has has failed. And I would argue like I said earlier that it hasn't failed because the goal was never to stop the War on Drugs, you know. And so I think that I think that the more that we understand who benefits from the one does the more, the more we understand.
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"el chapo" Discussed on MIP Make It Plain with Mark Thompson
"In the greater being into existence? My short answer would be yes. The structure in which El Chapo was operating brought many high-profile and Powerful drug traffickers into being including El Chapo. The other thing that I think that's a singular focus on him obscures. Is that he wasn't, you know, it wasn't like he was the only show in town, you know, we talked about sort of the, we talked about cartels, we talked about like the Sinaloa cartel, which, you know, we can, we can get into why I sort of found that terminology problematic, but El Chapo was one of many drug traffickers in Mexico. All of whom were working in some way, or another number one song in April, you know, a larger like rational economic mug, number two, they would operating with the support of various elements of the Mexican state with the corruption that you can't travel to drugs without corruption. And so they they were very, you know, there was a pretty sort of standardized method of operating in Mexico with The approval of the people that they needed approval from and this is referred to often as the plaza system, right? Where One Drug trafficker would sort of be the go-to liaison team element of the police the political class then judicial class in order to sort of died off the ability to to work in that area. And then anyone who didn't pay into, that would be the one who would, you know, on the news getting arrested or killed and having their drugs seized. And so at that allows, the state to pretend that it's confronting drug trafficking while also individuals making a lot of money by allowing other people to traffic drugs. And so I think that they'll Chopper was certainly. There are ways in which El Chapo was influential, you know. He he popularized the, the sort of the use of sort of tunnel under the Border. I think he was very influential in Sinaloa as a sort of a figure within this sort of larger social economic structure, right? Because drug traffickers did place, Of role as like power Brokers and as, as sort of locals thought so strong man, you know, but I'm much more interested in sort of, in that in sort of the, the role that he played off of the, the structure of society and Sinaloa and less. So instead of, you know, was he the most influential drug trafficker ever? Because I don't think that like, I think that's, you know, I think you asking the right question, right off. I think that the, the impact that the larger structures of the drug trade, and of the prohibition, and the one drugs had on, El Chapo's, Korea and on his life were much greater than a. And any impact that he might have personally had on the drug trade, more MIP after this message, Remy, Martin joins with International music star usher in team up for walk-ins the film. 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What influence did America's Waging War on Drugs? Could what influence of that could be that have any influence on that corruption. Did it off? Due to that corruption did America's role in this weekend. So, that's a good question because I don't want to, you know, I don't want to make it seem like this is just a problem of the Mexican Government. You know, you've been asked, you know, is there is there that kind of corruption in the American government and in one part of my answer is, is on a structural level. No, I don't think that the, that the, the sort of thing, I think that we, we see different things in in Mexico. I think it's a much more sort of, you know, there's this sort of this Corruption of the institutions based on sort of profit and ability for drug traffickers to operate with impunity. Whereas in the US, I think what is corrupt is more the, the motives of the drug war and the way in which the drug war is waged. So did the US influence that corruption with Geico? Absolutely. And, in many ways, one is just that prohibition causes the the the price of drugs to go up. You know, you can charge more because of the risk of transporting and because it's illegal off, Black Market goods are going to be more expensive that increases the profits of of drug traffickers and makes them more able to buy off officials and Mexico. Number to the US has has used the one drugs as sort of a coercive element of foreign policy in Mexico and in, in Latin America as a whole for many many years. And, you know, not because of us about fear belief in, in the ability, to end the drug trade, but because it's a really useful cudgel to get Latin American governments in line. We've seen that for decades says, this really important event in my book that I hear that I read about, in my book called operation intercept, where the Nixon Administration basically, shut down the US, Mexico border for like 20 days by saying. Oh, we're doing this, and search were searching every car that's coming into into the US from Mexico, which is impossible. And so it effectively just shut down the border. And at the time you know a lot of people were really angry. There was this sort of life. Finger wagging editorial in the New York Times where they were like this was a debacle. This was a failure and later G Gordon Liddy. You know, the guy was made famous by Watergate said, it was only a fake if you didn't know. It's true purpose which was extortion pure and simple. He said that it was extortion. International diplomatic extortion to show, Mexico to show the government Mexico City that hey you answer to us. You know we can we can sustain this longer than you can and I think that it's really instructive to look at the one drugs. Do that lens? Not so much of the stated goals, which I think are patently off. But rather what are the potential ulterior motives? And this is not a conspiracy. This is this is a you know as as Gary Webb said, I'm not talking about conspiracy theory conspiracy. This is, you know, there's a lot of sort of overlapping and competing interests that have a vested interest in seeing the drug war continued, whether it's the federal agencies that need their budgets to keep increasing or the military, which needs an excuse me. And it's bloated budget, you know, particularly at the end of the Cold War. So, you know, if we look at there's so many people who have a vested interest in in this war continuing. And so I think that you know, the word for that age is not necessarily. I would not necessarily you call that corruption necessarily in terms of like bribery and graft. But I think it's you know, on a moral scale I think it's arguable if I works because the the impacts of this war are tremendous and and horrifying. And you know the hundreds of thousands of people have been murdered in Mexico in the last fifteen years. Instead of the latest iteration of the drug war was launched by Felipe Calderon in late 2006 at the behest of the United States and were not anywhere closer. If anything it's gotten worse because criminal busquets of a demise and smaller and and and more, more competition between them and they kill more people and they exploit more people. They kidnap and all of this being done, for.
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"el chapo" Discussed on MIP Make It Plain with Mark Thompson
"Has a brand new book out. He's a journalist based in New York City. He covered the subject of his book for Rolling Stone, The Village Voice. He's also written for the Columbia journalism review. The baffle New York Magazine and many, many more. He's pretty good amount of work into his latest El. Chapo. The untold story of the world's most infamous drug. Lord. No, he's not sure which joins us now. Nor welcome to make a plane. How are you, buddy? Hey man, thanks so much for having me on. I'm I'm good. Well, I'm glad you are congratulations on the book. You spend a lot of time covering the story and and now the book tell us a little bit about, you know, that that intrigues you so much to to really go into this story and to make it a very important part of your life by birth. Sure. So I I've been a reporter for about a decade. Now, I spend most of that time and sort of local news reporter in New York City. Working for this for this newspaper, called the book with paper and then for a local news website called dnainfo which flip cover the city of neighborhood by neighborhood and dnainfo got shut down in in 2017 because we voted to unionized jobs and after that I sort of got some 7th and ran away to Peru and got, you know, got better at Spanish and and was trying to do some reporting down there. But you know I came back to the United States later in 2018 and I started freelancing trying to cover sort of domestic drug policy because I was very interested in sort of the way in which the opioid overdose epidemic was impacting. You know my city here in New York. Also you know I used to live in in Maine and it's that's been a big story there. So I was doing sort of more domestic dog. See and in the fall of 2018, I had the opportunity to cover the trial of El Chapo for Rolling Stone. Very lucky break there and you know, I went into that. Okay, you know, this will be a cool gig or maybe go to the trial once or twice a week. I ended up being there every day but four days a week for like three months, you know, just covering every minute of the trial because choice so immersive. And it was so, you know, just every you couldn't you couldn't look away for a minute, you know. There was this one day when I was downstairs in the Press Room and I was on the phone with a source and all of a sudden, it just comes streaming into the classroom and like know something must have crazy unless it just happened and that was the day that it had come out. That one of the witnesses had accused then president Enrique Pena Nieto of taking like a hundred million dollar bribe from El Chapo, you know? So is it it's not the kind of thing that you could just, you know, drop you in on occasionally and so that just, you know, they'll just became it just took over my life for those 3 months page, Got the I was approached about writing a book about about El Chapo and you know I I actually I I thought long and hard at the beginning of that process about whether or not to actually do this book because you know as I'm sure you know, there's an incredible amount of sort of media out there about El Chapo. Right? There's Just Books. There's there's Netflix shows, there's there's documentary is. And you know, I had my doubts about whether whether it would be useful to write another book about El Chapo and whether I was the person to do it, you know as you really didn't really know Mexico and was everything going off, you know, and ultimately what I what I sort of the realization that I came to was was a if I don't do it, it's not like that. That editors going to go to someone else, it might just not happen and be, I felt like yes, there's all this information out there about a chop-o. There's all of this this this these books and documentaries but the more I looked, the more I found them, lacking a certain context, you know, lacking a certain amount of money. Putting El Chapo in the sort of social economic political context that I think he deserved to be put in. And so, I, you know, I embarked on this project with the goal of using the story of El, Chapo to illuminate, sort of the bigger, more important story of The 100, the word drugs in in Mexico, or the one drugs in the United States entered. The goal that the US has has played in that, you know, because if you look at, if you look at the story of El Chapo, it really is it really does follow sort of the story of the one drugs, you know, you sort of when we, when we talk about him as this sort of singular genius who, you know, he he had this huge impact on the, on the drug trade, which he did I think. But you know what that obscures is the impact that these larger structural forces, had on him know in in on his career. And, you know, just to give an example of that he was entering the drug trade in Sinaloa in the early 1970s at a time when the US and police in Europe had just wage Shut down. What's known? As The French Connection, which is a route. So from here it was a route from 4 from Turkey to Marseille and France to New York that heroin, that was the main route for heroin come into the United States. And you know, as that was a perfect example of what we call the balloon effect where as if you're squeezing, a balloon here goes from one side to the other when you shut down. But one area of drug production drugs, don't go away the debate, like, you just shift to another Market blend. So, at this time, Little Chapel was was getting into the business. The the opium trade in and heroin trade in Sinaloa just exploded because suddenly there was this huge demand for who, and that was no longer being met and they would already sort of a, you know, a smallish opium trade in Sinaloa and that just exploded. So there's all of these instances throughout El Chapo's, career of choice larger. Structural forces impacting the amount of money, he was able to make impact in the deals. He was able to have with elements of the Mexican state and so you know I just basically dead It's really hard to get Americans with Americans to care about anything outside of the United States. You know, to care about international news. And so, when you're presented with an opportunity like this Fascination, figure like El Chapo, who people want to know about people. You know it just it automatically piques people's interest to hear the name El Chapo because it's such a fascinating character because I saw that as a really good opportunity to tell a really engaging interesting story, while also sort of trying to, you know, confront or debunk as many sort of myths about his life as I could while also putting him in that context, that I found was sort of lacking from other from other portrayals of him. Well, I think what you said about the context is is very important for disclosure. I knew, Gary Webb I was a part. I I was a part of the movement along with the Gregory and Maxine Waters to explore an expose where he exposed we demonstrated in committed Civil Disobedience, that wage The VA, the CIA and then elsewhere, I'm right in the middle of that. So when you, when you talk about what what what Americans singularly focus on or or focus on in a, in a small way, I think, even with El Chapo, I think even you would agree. There's a sort of curiosity around him, but I think when you're booked helps us do is go even that. And I think people sometimes even still look at what's going on with with drugs and addiction through their personal lands, which is fine. But you said something very important that the structures that exist. I mean, these things just don't happen on their own. So so let's start there cuz I think that's very important. People understand to, what extent, they'll Chapel contribute to the structure. But more importantly, how the structure may have created him did it. Did the structure make bring someone like him into being.
Morning News with Manda Factor and Gregg Hersholt
Wife of Drug Kingpin 'El Chapo' Expected to Plead Guilty
"Wife is expected to plead guilty today to helping the drug kingpin run his Mexican cartel. Emma Coronel s bureau, was arrested in February at Dulles Airport near Washington, D. C. She's been charged with helping Joaquin El Chapo Guzman import tons of cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine and marijuana into this country.
AP News Radio
El Chapo's Wife Expected to Plead Guilty to US Charges
"The wife of the notorious Mexican drug kingpin known as el Chapo is expected to plead guilty in federal court as part of a plea deal in the conspiracy case against her the wife of Joaquin el Chapo goose man faces conspiracy charges in the US for allegedly helping her husband run his multi billion dollar criminal enterprise Emma Coronel ice borough had previously pleaded not guilty after being charged with conspiracy to distribute cocaine methamphetamine heroin and marijuana she been arrested earlier this year in a Washington area airport prosecutors say Coronel ice borough work closely with the command and control structure of this in a lower cartel and conspired to distribute large quantities of drugs knowing they'd be smuggled into the U. S. during her husband's trial in twenty nineteen prosecutors said she had helped orchestrate Goodman's to jail breaks in Mexico Jackie Quinn Washington
Sean Hannity
Wife of Notorious Drug Kingpin "El Chapo" Expected to Plead Guilty
"With the update. The wife of El Chapo Guzman will plead guilty here, helping him run his Mexican drug cartel. The update coming from NBC Corona Westboro was arrested in February at Dulles Airport in Virginia near Washington to D. C. She's being charged with helping her husband's drug empire import tons of cocaine, heroin, methamphetamines and
Timesuck with Dan Cummins
El Chapo, the Sinaloa Cartel, and the War on Drugs
"From selling oranges just to buy food to running. A multibillion dollar drug empire l. Chapels tail is one of rags to cocaine dusted riches. El chapo guzman is a name. Most of us have probably heard of the name. Thousands of people have feared chapel took his childhood entrepreneurial spirit and turned it into an international narcotics operation. He expanded his empire with a combination of bribes government manipulation in innovative shipments system and brute force and tear when necessary. He took on a status as a legendary hero to some and as a heartless monster to others l. chapel maintained his control with an iron fist. No secrets got past him. And no one disobeyed his orders. His employees claimed he's omniscient like god. He sees everything as many people found out. Betrayal chapel or any other leader of the ceelo cartel. And you won't survive long. A man who seemed unstoppable with thousands of supporters willing to die for him managed to escape. Da and other law enforcement agencies for decades and escape from prison twice until his desire for a flashy lifestyle and city life led to his eventual and probably final arrest but his drug empire did not end with l. chapels capture. The seen alot of cartel is still alive and well today ran by el chapo zone children and his business partner il mio. The cartels still runs the majority of the drug trade mexico and seemingly will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. There still powerful enough to engage the mexican national guard indirect battle and win what led to el chapo becoming one of the most infamous drug lords in the world. We're gonna look into that today. Also we're going to look into the us war on drugs without it. There would be no el chapo. If narcotics were legal there would be no need to smuggle them into the united states. There would be no illegal narcotics demand for cartels to supply. Why are drugs illegal. Going to look into the history of drugs in us today at one time or another. They were legal. So what changed. What would happen if we made drugs legal again. would there still be cartels. What our country fall into anarchy and despair or would improve
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Haitians in Tijuana Seek to Enter U.S.
"Life at sea, with everyone everywhere when it comes to the migrant crisis at the border. Ah lot of attention has been focused on Central Americans, but people from other parts of the world have come to Mexican border cities like Tijuana. Seeking to try to cross to the U. S. For asylum That includes people from Haiti from San Diego. Here's KPBS reporter Max Rivlin. Nadler, a community of Haitian migrants has been into Quanah for nearly a decade, fleeing a devastating earthquake, hurricanes, financial collapse and now deep political instability and violence as an unpopular president. Tries to hold on to power in Porta Prince. Many Haitians are stuck in Tijuana, fearful that by crossing the border, they'll be sent right back to Haiti. But unable to make a life for themselves in Mexico. When a migrant camp was established in February at the El Chapo to our port of entry in Tijuana, hundreds of Haitians set up tents, hoping that they would soon be allowed to declare asylum in the U. S. You're the only Ito was one of them. He'd been living in Tijuana for a year. I'm looking at here, Dia. She's having said that hideous his country that he loves it, but it wasn't possible to stay there. There are too many criminals with nothing to do, you know, had spent five years working in Chile. The discrimination there was intense. He was trying to get into the United States, even though he feared possibly being returned to Haiti. Good thing will be a little capital alive, he said. If they deport him, he wouldn't live in heating. He doesn't have anything there. He wouldn't have the money to leave, though. He's afraid. If you
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Wife of "El Chapo" appears in court over drug trafficking charges
"Of a Mexican drug lord has been arrested NBC's Matt Gutman reports Emma Coronel, the beauty queen wife of El Chapo, turning heads at his blockbuster drug trial last year, waking up this morning in a federal detention center after being arrested on drug charges at a D. C area airport Monday, according to federal documents, crew now Always charged with both conspiring with her husband to distribute drugs, including cocaine and heroin and of conspiring with El Chapo to spring him from a Mexican Supermax prison. Her husband had run the world's largest narco operation, but Since his arrest in 2016 Cornel hasn't exactly lived under the radar massing nearly half a million instagram followers and starring in an episode of the beach, one reality show, cartel, crew, business and women. The 31 year old was born in California and has dual Mexican U S citizenship. She married L chopper when she was only 17. The affidavit alleges. She helped pass instructions to his lieutenants for drug sales and commissioned another Sinaloa leader, toe orchestrate that spectacular escape from his Mexican prison in 2015 El Chapo, dipping into a hole in the shower floor that led to a nearly Mile long tunnel outfitted with a motorcycle on rails. He was extradited to the U. S. And 2017 and despite trial testimony, painting him as a monster. Cornell insisted to The New York Times that she still admired him. Now. Cornell's been under investigation for about two years since El Chapo's trial seemed to reveal how deeply and mess she allegedly was in his narco operations, But these new federal documents say nothing about her involvement. In the Sinaloa cartel since El Chapo's extradition to the US in 2017.
News, Traffic and Weather
El Chapo's wife arrested in Washington, DC area on drug trafficking charge
"Has been arrested A veces Matt Gutman reports. Emma Coronel, the beauty queen, wife of El Chapo, turning heads. It is blockbuster drug trial last year. Waking up this morning in a federal detention center after being arrested on drug charges at a D C area airport Monday, according to federal documents. Cornell is charged with both conspiring with her husband to distribute drugs, including cocaine and heroin, and of conspiring with El Chapo to spring him from a Mexican Supermax prison. Her husband had run the world's largest narco operation, but Since his arrest in 2016 Cornel hasn't exactly lived under the radar massing nearly half a million instagram followers and starring in an episode of the Beach, one reality show. Hotel crew business and get out of the car phase one and 31 year old was born in California and has dual Mexican U. S citizenship. She married a chopper when she was only 17. The affidavit alleges she helped pass instructions to his lieutenants for drug sales and commissioned another Sinaloa leader. Orchestrate that spectacular escape from his Mexican prison in 2015 El Chapo, dipping into a hole in the shower floor that led to a nearly a mile long tunnel outfitted with a motorcycle on rails. He was extradited to the U. S. And 2017 and despite trial testimony, painting him as a monster, Cornell insisted. To the New York Times that she still admired him. Cornell has been under investigation for about two years since L Chop owes trial seemed to reveal how deeply and mess she allegedly was in his narco operations. But these new federal documents say nothing about her involvement in the civil Oh, a cartel since I'll chop those extradition to the US in 2017. As we've been telling you on co Moh
NBC Nightly News
Wife Of Joaquín 'El Chapo' Guzmán Arrested On Drug Trafficking Charges
"Wife have notorious drug kingpin. El chapo made her first court appearance today after she was arrested at a dc area airport drug trafficking charges. Let's get more on this now from gotti schwartz. Two years after walking into a federal court support her husband tonight. El chapo wife. Emma cornell is poodle is fighting for her own freedom. Her mugshot taken shortly before her court appearance today via video conference where she was denied. Bond and if convicted could face life in prison the dual use mexican citizen. Who is still married to one of. The world's most notorious drug kingpins now faces conspiracy to distribute cocaine methamphetamine heroin and marijuana into the united states after el chapo whose real name is joaquin guzman went to prison in two thousand fourteen new court documents allege his wife acted as a messenger between the drug lord and his lieutenants associates and sons and when el chapo famously escaped mexican prison using a tunnel court documents. Say she helped orchestrate the plan. What you see in a criminal complaint is the bare bones. There could be more tonight or attorney saying we don't know enough about the case to give clarity to the public adding we'll do what we can get out of this mess. The former beauty queen who married el chapo when she was eighteen was arrested at dulles international airport outside washington. Dc after guzman was extradited to the us in two thousand seventeen than before he was sentenced to life in prison. Evidence is us. Trial showed his wife's involvement in his billion dollar criminal empire an accusation. She's denied donald. Trump was the head of a very very violent and dangerous drug cartel. And it's obvious from the affidavit regarding his wife that she was helping him in almost every respect tonight the kingpin is beauty. Queen forever separated by prison but perhaps destined to share the same fate
All Things Considered
Wife of "El Chapo" appears in court over drug trafficking charges
"Headlines and Mexican drug trafficker Joaquin El Chapo Guzman is serving a life sentence in prison and now his wife is facing criminal charges. Women are involved in drug trafficking at really high levels, but historically women are not investigated or charged for these high level
The Vegas Take
Wife of drug kingpin "El Chapo" ordered to stay in jail
"The wife of an infamous Mexican drug kingpin, has just been ordered to stay in jail for now, after her arrest for drug trafficking. Federal prosecutors accused the former beauty queen of helping her imprisoned husband, Joaquin El Chapo Guzman, to keep running his cartel from behind bars and plotting his escape from a Mexican prison. In 2015. He's now serving life at the Supermax prison in
Dennis Prager
El Chapo's wife, Emma Coronel Aispuro, arrested on drug trafficking charges at Dulles Airport
"U. S. Authorities have arrested the wife of imprisoned Mexican drug Lord El Chapo Guzman, Emma Coronel Ice poodle The wife of Mexican drug kingpin Joaquin El Chapo Guzman was arrested Monday and accused of helping Guzman run his multibillion dollar drug cartel and aiding and his escaped from a Mexican prison in 2015. The 31 year old Coronel was arrested at Dulles International Airport in
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