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"eighty five hundred million dollars" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast
"Four hundred and ninety one. We are creeping up in the New Year on our five hundred episode. I'm sorry Michaela so is flagging me. It's episode four Hundred Ninety Two l'affaire. Ama Twenty twenty. Here is the first question. The first group are all impeachment questions as so we figured we would get those out of the way at the outset. So here's question number one my question for the Lafayette Roundtable is what is it potential acquittals by the the Senate president trump would have the force precedent for our future analogous situations particularly interested in your view of potential legal and political ramifications for Democratic presidential nominee to do something something like began a sort of international auction for president trump crap offering a hundred million dollars in foreign aid if they're elected for recording the call between trump excellent ski or eighty five hundred million dollars for incriminating text between trump and Putin. Anyway love to hear your opinion on that. Thank you so much. All you're doing doing love the the podcast thanks again. So I think I can take this one easily enough. The short answer is that everything being that happens in impeachment is both precedential and non-presidential which is to say it will be cited as precedent and imagine that he were acquitted. That could be cited in the future as evidence that the Senate did not regard this as worthy of removal. The president on the other hand in no sense binds a future Senate as to what a future Senate would regard as impeachment worthy or doesn't combined future house in terms of what would trigger an impeachment and it certainly doesn't bind a future Senate in terms of what would what would merit removal. David Priest you further thoughts on that I do. The the president is more just in terms of the public conversation about impeachment. I mean listen. It's been forty five years since Nixon's impeachment. I'm and still people are talking about minute. Details of what happened in that impeachment. For what should be happening now so. Is it legal. No in terms of public opinion and therefore influence on senators. Yeah there is a big influence of what has gone before. Okay here is question number two. I would like to know. So what remedies are available that illegal and constitutional for the Democrats in the House to deal with any potential acquittal title from the Senate impeachment trial. Thank you this is an easy one Quinta Jurassic. Do you WANNA handle it sure The short answer is that there are no remedies If the president is acquitted in a Senate impeachment trial then. That's basically inch that said. Of course the house could impeach the president again and there has been some suggestion at least from The House of Representatives that they're considering further articles of impeachment having to do with the president's conduct vis-a-vis the Mueller a probe. So that is always on the table. There is no restriction against impeaching president and Multiple Times. And then I will be remiss if I didn't point to the other obvious obvious remedy which is elections There isn't election coming up in November. Two Thousand Twenty obviously and if the president has an is acquitted in the Senate rather than removed. The Democrats will be able to campaign on that and take it to the American people and say it's it's up to you whether you want this person to remain in office or not. Yeah and the that remedy. It's important to stress operates not just against the president in the set but also against all of the senators who voted against his removal. And so I I agree completely with the way Quinta formulated formulated it. There are no legal remedies here available to house. Managers who feel like the Senate has improperly acquitted the person and they have impeached. There is a remedy available to the public. It's purely political set of remedies. Okay here's question number three three. Hello I have a question about impeachment in the off chance that that president is actually removed from office. Does that take place in mmediately. Is She escorted to his locker and asteroids. Move is thing If he has executive orders already ready signed and sitting on his desk. Do those go into effect. How about pardons pardons somebody in a hurry before the last vote is in or are doing the answer these questions? Thank you so much. Well I happen to have the perfect person to answer this question because because David priests actually wrote a book about how to get rid of presidents and what happens when you try to get rid of presence it's called how to get rid of a president and I would think you would be the perfect person to ask this question to David. I'm the perfect person in the sense that I don't know because we don't know we assume that things things that are stated in the Constitution happen as they are supposed to happen the president upon his removal from office this is article two section one one of the constitution in the case of his removal or his death resignation or inability to discharge the powers and duties of the office the powers devolve upon the vice president and and that is immediate and it is automatic however the Constitution does not go into the contingency of what happens if the President says. But I ain't even the the idea. Is that there will be such a public outcry. There would be such a reaction that it would be infeasible that the president simply could not do it however this president president has shown that he is willing to do things that were thought unthinkable. Ultimately you get into fiction very quickly. What happens if the president sits in the Oval Office? I or anywhere else. Usually the inner protection is the secret service followed at the White House by DC police or in a foreign situation by the US military military but ultimately could come down to the chief of the secret service deciding does his oath mean that he follows the constitution and the laws of the United States. Or does he have a personal loyalty to the president who is no longer. The president at the moment of the conviction Hopefully it doesn't come to that so I think there's there is one more mechanical thing that you can mention here. which is that at the moment? The Senate votes for the president's removal. I would I think the vice president's staff would almost immediately call probably not the chief justice of the United States because he'd be busy Z.. Supervising the trial but would almost immediately call a justice. Have that person brought over to administer the oath both of office to the vice president at the point at which the vice president takes the oath of office following impeachment trial and a removal vote by the Senate. The president is no longer president and so he can refuse to leave the Oval Office. But the I think the question is if the vice president now inaugurated as president and the president are giving competing orders to the secret service about who should be dragged bodily out of the White House. The one who is going to get listened to is the one who just swore the oath of office as President supervised by a Justice of the Supreme Court agreed and even before that oath. The vice president is the acting president and perhaps the president by precedent. Some vice presidents have chosen upon the death of the president not even take the oath immediately because they say I don't need to the oath is almost extraneous because the constitution is clear that I would become the president. Don't now on the aspect of the question. Relating to things like pardons could the president at the moment that he is removed immediately. Issue a pardon. Well it's a matter of timing one second before. He's removed yes. The president has the power of pardoning after removal No and for two reasons one. He's no longer the president. The vice president has become the president but also because article two section two says the president shall have the power to grant reprieves pardons for events is against the United States except opt in cases of impeachment. So even if he were to make the case that he has a last few seconds to issue pardons he can't do it to himself in the case of an impeachment everything everything else that's included in the powers and duties of the presidency in our country. The president still has up until the moment of removal. Okay the next. This question comes from twitter Quinta. Can you read it for us. It's can you discuss the pardons except in cases of impeachment. People are confused. Okay Okay so David made reference to this just before the basic meaning of this Margaret I've always understood that to me that the president doesn't have the power to make impeachments go away by virtue of pardons is it more. Is there more to it than that. I don't think so. I think it's really just meant to to clarify that. The president can't use his pardon power to stop for example like a judge who's been impeached from being impeached or to undo the effects seven impeachment and conviction so I think it's pretty simple. Yes so one element of that. Is You know the pardon power is a power are to relieve criminal. Penalties impeachment is not a criminal penalty as distinct from British practice. Where when you impeach somebody you normally cut off his has had afterwards you know the constitution specifically says no cutting off heads in impeachment? The punishment Shan't shall not go beyond removal from from office and disqualification so it's really a job firing thing and Consequently the pardon power has no application to it. Our next question involves a matter that lots of people have been wondering about recently. Hi this is Josh from larks. Her question soon. Probably for me Reynolds. Anything that would prevent the Senate from opted for trial whereby senators with cast their votes privately. I totally get vote. Count at the end. But you wouldn't be able to see which way any individual center voting and bless those Dhabi's Washington University events disconnect. These rules could actually get adopted things. Much molly what are your thoughts shots so I think that actually the second part of this question is the more important part. The part that asks about whether there is an imaginable political universe or sequence of events in which we could see this actually happen. I think this is the more important part for this question. And actually most other procedural hypotheticals articles that we might contemplate about the Senate's impeachment trial. So this case I think the answer is no. There's not actually a world where we could contemplate this happening Even if the Senate I did try to adopt a rule that made its final. Vote secret there'd be a real incentive for senators to leak the results which would likely disincentivize is them from adopting the rule in the first place also it would be a pretty significant departure from previous practice in voting in impeachment trials on a scale scale. That really makes it hard for me to imagine. Overall the dorms the Senate over time have been in favor of more transparency and not less but in terms of sort of could it happen it is worth remembering that if all one hundred senators agreed something the Senate does routinely set aside its rules and take different procedural approaches the current rules for impeachment trials do stipulate that at the end of the trial the presiding officer shall for state the question thereafter each senator as his name is called Shell rise in place an answer guilty or not guilty the Senate could change that rule how many votes you would need to change. The rule would depend on the approach that you would take in this particular case. The constitution's journals clause which allows one fifth of senators demand. Amanda recorded vote would potentially be relevant but again at the end of the day. I think that the political realities are going to trump what might be even hypothetically procedurally possible people and the chances that we saw something like this happened are extraordinarily small.
"eighty five hundred million dollars" Discussed on Niners Nation
"Whether that is trading up in the draft for a quarterback or whether that is overpaying someone in free agency. You are so confident that this is the one guy that other teams then take advantage of you. And you generally don't want to be that team. But the third and final thing is that bad spending decisions don't magically correct themselves while yes, the cap is largely an allusion handing out bad contracts can still impact your ability to put together a winning roster. When you look at the Malcolm Smith deal specifically. Yes, he's now restructured it, it's basically a one year deal. But he's still got two years of effectively top end the top and money for a linebacker that we didn't need to pay. If everyone else if the Niners knew what everyone else knew, which it wasn't very good. Right. And when you look at good teams, they get value from their signings. And this is why rookie deals was so valuable, but this is alternately why getting production beyond the players contract is super important. Kevin Clarke had a great story on his podcasts on the ringer. Earlier this week, and he was talking to a personnel man in the NFL, and he said that you effectively have the salary cap and the salary cap is one hundred and eighty five hundred million dollars. Whatever the hell sat right jumps up ten million dollars a year. But you affected we want to sign players that make it seem like your team is playing at a two hundred and fifty million dollar cap. And you do that when players outperform the salaries, you give them, and so if you give out a bunch of twenty thirty forty million dollar deals, the likelihood of a player outperforming that slim to none, right? It's just it's it's tough when you're paying players what they're worth, right? And it sounds crappy. But that's kind of like from a team perspective and looking at through that lens, right? You're trying to build the best possible team that you can build within those restrictions. You need to get access value from players, especially I think when you have your quarterback. I mean there I think you look at Jimmy garoppolo's contract right now going forward for the rest of is probably the best example of the foreigners have currently of going. They're hopefully going to get access value from that deal. Right. He's going to have cap hits that put him at best in the middle of the pack among quarterbacks salaries every year, and he's a player that we expect to perform much higher than that. And that is where you really get that value because then you're getting a player. That's that's giving you more than you're giving him, and you can then devote those resources that excess that you get to other players to be able to sign them in the more often you can do that the better off you're going to be. So those are the Prior's those are the things that we think are important when it comes to roster building. These are the things that good teams do by and large in order to win in football. So now, let's take a look at the contracts and the and the decisions the team has made over the last couple of days and put them through this lens and figure out whether or not they are good deals is what you can understand. Why the hell we've been ranting and raving for the last two days, and I let's get to the first contract that we handed out we'll the wrath of Kwan. I love dude. I love it. I've already I've got to the title of the podcast is going to be pretty dope as well. It's going to be probably quantity million. I mean, the pun game is strong. That's maybe the best part of this signing quantity million is up there. Quantified their love..
"eighty five hundred million dollars" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"You'll leave your way too much money on the table. All right. Manny machado. Did he talk himself out of that big contract with some of these teams by saying that he's done a Johnny hustled kinda guy? Still doing the research researching when the Yankees, you'll Yankee is are still all over them. It talked about Showalter talk to Baltimore Orioles. They came back with rave reviews. High still thinking is out there. I mean other teams include the White Sox and Phillies are in on him. But the he's he's a perfect fit for New York. You know, we grew up a Yankee fan Iraj is islands mentor. So I think it's national to go there. Do you think Scott Boras thinks that he runs baseball? And I'm being serious here. Do you think that he feels like, hey, I decide and does he is he the most important or powerful guy in baseball. I mean surely up there. I mean, you his big thing is these teams are making so much money. Go to Bryce Harper. He says Washington nationals were worth about four hundred eighty five hundred million dollars to when Bryce Harper signed originally. Now that franchises worth two billion dollars in the evenings. He's players that game way under paid with all the money that's being made out there. So he's stop speed. And in telling everybody, you know, not just for his guys is like don't just sit back here. Don't let us take advantage because they got plenty of money pockets talking to Bob Nightingale USA today. Baseball columnist joining us from the winter baseball meetings in Las Vegas. You mentioned the dodgers a dark horse for Bryce Harper. Are they willing are they willing to pay more than Philadelphia? No. I don't think anybody is. Since Enron Friedman wins the dodgers, they haven't signed a free agent yet know worth more than the ninety five million dollars. So this'll be a big step for them. Obviously Hugh star Bryce Harper's one of those guys. He sells tickets be you know, the dodgers sold up place out most of the times. Anyway. So I'm not sure how much value is gonna add that franchise just a lot of value in that field. But it feels like the dodgers are going to try to move y'all seal. Puig Cody Bellinger, I believe some of the reports is that that what you're hearing out there. Matt camp. I'm not sure about Bellinger w up one for them to slow, and they would love to get you know, according clue up in Cleveland, Indians catcher JT brutal from the Marlins, but yeah, big close outfielders out there. There's a whole right there for Bryce Harper. What about Noah Syndergaard? There was talk that maybe the Yankees would be able to pick him up from the Mets. You on the Yankees are closing J a half. I'm not sure how realistic that one was the Miami Marlins actually laughed it off. And since the first we heard about three way deal. But you know, with all those reports it was, you know, mid scheme, the real Muto the Yankees getting Syndergaard. But you'll what were the Marlins getting a bag of balls? You know, still talked about the Marlins it sounded great in that thing. It was just another example of the the Mets being very aggressive. This winter very aggressive as Mike trout ever been shopped. No, no. I don't think you ever will be you know, with all this talk about make trout being a free agent in two years. I'd be shocked abor leaves leaves NFL. I think he's very very happy very comfortable playing for the angels. We usually go out looking for the spotlight. Fritzy like that very comfortable. So I think they lock him up before he ever becomes a free agent. Okay. When they lock him up. Will he get paid more than Bryce Harper? No, I think it'll get less just in the sense, Dan, where he'll he'll be older. I I don't see it. But you'll say if you're might trout, sit back and see, and so you can make the case. 'cause he's he's the best player in baseball in better numbers. I just not sure the angels, you know, particularly dome guy are going go over four hundred million dollars right out. Get some sleep, Bob. We appreciate your time. Bob Nightingale USA today. Baseball columnist joining us after leaving the craps table at the winter meetings. There. Couple of things here..
"eighty five hundred million dollars" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"All right. Manny machado. Did he talk himself out of that big contract with some of these teams by saying that he's done a Johnny hustled kind of guy? Researching the Yankees union key is are still all over them. It talked about Showalter talk to Baltimore Orioles. They came back with rave reviews. High still thinking ends up there. I mean other teams young Clinton White SOX Phillies are in on him. But the he's he's a perfect fit for New York. You know, we grew up inky fan Iraj is items mentor. So I think it's national frame to go there. Do you think Scott Boris thinks that he runs baseball? And I'm being serious here. Do you think that he feels like, hey, I decide and does he is he the most important or powerful guy in baseball. I mean surely up there. I mean, you know, his big thing is these teams are making so much money. Go to Bryce Harper. He says Washington nationals were worth about four hundred eighty five hundred million dollars to when Bryce Harper sign originally now that franchises worth two billion dollars. And he thinks he's players are game way underpaid with all the money that's being made out there. So he stop and speed. And and telling everybody not just for his guys is like don't just sit back here. Don't let these always take advantage because they got plenty of money pockets talking to Bob Nightingale USA.
"eighty five hundred million dollars" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"You're a great reporter, Bob. Okay, month ago. You said Bryce Harper Dundee. Oh, going to Philadelphia still feel that way. The I still think he ends up that way. Chicago White Sox are gonna be bidding big time. Okay. I don't think they go much over three hundred million to dodgers were kind of dark horse. I don't think they go that kind of level, but they are interested. You know, I think that's probably as first choice being Las Vegas guy by salting Philadelphia. Well, easily had a high bid and do everything possible to get them. And it feels like prescribe Boris. He usually sends his client to the highest bidder is that fair to say with with the only splash that he loves to make. Yeah. I mean, the last time I can remember one of a client. Greg Maddux, turn on the Yankees and Braves. There was just over a what eight million dollar difference. Yeah. But Maddux is different CAD. He wasn't. He wasn't made for New York and Atlanta suited him a whole lot better personality wise, but I wonder about that with Bryce Harper. Is there is there too big of a spotlight forum or does he love that spotlight that he's not afraid to be the highest paid player and to go into a tough market like Philadelphia, or you know, go out and play for the dodgers. Yeah. No. I think he loves that spotlight. Drives are that? I mean dodgers, you know, such a, you know, I kinda franchise everything else close to home. But you just can't see if someone's offering you at your ten or twelve year contract in going to places like LA and five years. It just seems like too big of a rescue lever way too much money on the table. All right. Manny Machado, Diddy talk himself out of that big contract with some of these teams by saying that he's done a Johnny hustle kind of guy. Doing the research, including the Yankees union key is are still all over it talked about Showalter talk to Baltimore Orioles. They came back with rave reviews. I still think he ends up there. I mean other teams including the White Sox and Phillies Arina him. But the he's a perfect fit for New York. You know, we grew up a Yankee fan erogenous islands mentor. So I just think it's natural to go. There. Do you think Scott Boras thinks that he runs baseball? And I'm being serious here. Do you think that he feels like, hey, I decide and does he is he the most important or powerful guy in baseball. I mean, you certainly up there. I mean, you his big thing is these teams are making so much money. Go to Bryce Harper. He's Washington nationals were worth four hundred eighty five hundred million dollars to when Bryce Harper signed the originally. Now that franchise is worth two billion dollars in the evenings. She's players game way underpaid with all the money that's being made out there. So he up to speed and telling everybody not just for his guys is I don't just sit back here. Don't let us take advantage because they got plenty of money your pockets, Bob Nightingale USA today. Baseball columnist joining us for the winter baseball meetings in Las Vegas. You mentioned the dodgers a dark horse for Bryce Harper. Are they willing are they willing to pay more than Philadelphia? No. I don't think anybody is. Since inroads premium winter dodgers center freezing. Yet, you know worth more than ninety five million dollars. So this'll be a big step for them. Obviously huge star Bryce Harper. One of those guys. He sells tickets being sold up place out most of the times. Anyway, so I'm not sure how much he's going to to that franchise. Just a lot of value on that field. But it feels like the dodgers are going to try to move y'all. COPD Cody Bellinger, I believe some of the reports instead that what you're hearing out there. Malnourished. Matt camp. I'm not sure about Bellinger. I think that'd be a tough one for them new swallow, and they would love to get, you know, Corey kluber in Cleveland Indians catcher JT. From the Marlins, but yeah. Because outfielders out there there's a whole right there for Bryce Harper. What about Noah Syndergaard? There was talk that maybe the Yankees would be able to pick him up from the Mets. You're in the Yankees are closing on. Jay sure, how realistic that one was the Miami Marlins actually laughed it off. And since the first we heard about three way deal with all those reports. It was you know, admit scheme, the real Muto the Yankees getting Syndergaard. But you know, what were the Marlins getting a bag of balls? You know store talked about the Marlins it sounded great. You know, I think it was just another example of the the mess being very aggressive. This winter very aggressive as Mike trout ever been shopped. No, no. They don't think you ever will be all this talk about Mike trout being a free agent in two years. I'll be shocked abor leaves leaves Anaheim. I think he's very very happy very comfortable playing for the angels, go out looking for the spotlight printing like that very comfortable. So I think they're lock him up before he ever becomes a free agent. Okay. When they lock him up. Will he get paid more than Bryce Harper? No, get less just in the sense, Dan, where you'll you'll be older. I I don't see it. But you don't say if you're might trout, sit back and see you can make the case. 'cause he's he's up missed player in baseball in better numbers. I just not sure the angels, you know, particularly lack dome guy are going to go over four hundred million dollars or my trout. Get some sleep, Bob. We appreciate your time. Bob Nightingale USA today. Baseball columnist joining us after leaving the crabs to the winter meetings. There. Couple things here. I just saw this, mclovin. Sent this to me. I'm not sure what the news is here. This is the athletic. That's the website. Yeah. Nicole our back used to be with ESPN as a story on the athl- athletic where she sort of did interviews with some of the big the big names behind the scenes of college football and everyone's ready to talk. So we don't need to wait. Another six years college football leaders ready to discuss eighteen playoff. We had two of the movers and shakers we had Bob Boles via the big twelve. He said he was open to a sixteen playoff even eight. We talked to the SEC Commissioner now he was he was backpedaling because he wants to make sure that you get to SEC teams in there. And you know, he he he likes it the way it is. I understand was that Sankey, Greg. Thank you. So the article says now number of influential voices in college football calling for a serious look at expansion we covered this a couple of weeks ago. So it was an initial twelve year contract with the mothership, and it would go to twenty twenty six. For for a four team playoff. But if I have everybody agree is there an out in this contract. Is it say anything about that? Mclovin. I haven't seen yet. But. How do you break this deal? I mean, you can break contracts, but it's actually Barry Alvarez has some strong quotes in here. I wonder if former Wisconsin athletes, right? I wonder if this Ohio State reaction on his part a little bit. When he says that. When you can do it. And I think we need to serve more people. I think four was the right way to get started. In my opinion, we need to take a look of adding more teams to the playoffs giving more opportunity. Yeah. Hello. Sometimes I feel like they go there told now, here's what you say. And if you're asking about this, then you say this, and then if they ask about this you say that and now you get them some truth serum. And then they're saying, yeah, we should be expanding to six or eight teams Alvarez goes on to say, I don't know whether we're serving all of our people now. No, you're not our league the big ten as an example two years in a row. We don't have anyone represented. So that's why you want expansion boy couldn't see through that big twelve been the same way the Pac twelve the same way. So what's this about is this about all the other conferences turning on the SEC and saying we want to share in this as well? Certainly sounds like that to me. Yes, bowling. It's more of like an early opportunity to break this up and make way way way more money. I don't think you know, the the fourteen playoff got predictable really fast like the contestants to almost guaranteed every year. One ACC one from we all know we're talking about. And now, they remember we did the Paul would you rather have a fourteen playoff for move to eight seventy seven percent of the people voted. So they have the public ceremony side they could investigate this now two years from now. Delve eight never will make twice as much money. Yeah. It's going to happen fast. Yes. It is. But I don't know. I I need to find out if there's any clause any out in this contract. Our friend Bill. Hancock says it's twelve year deal. And we'll talk about it when we get close the twelve year. Okay. But I lot. He would he put a year's pay on that statement. I love Bill Hancock. But all he does is take directives. He's the one who wanted the BCS. He didn't one four member that now he's a forest. He's going to be in Addis here soon. He's a greenest. Yes. Mclovin. I used to love to hear you press him you. You'd almost are laughing at the interview he would be so politically correct and get himself all tied up. It's hard. Oh god. Polly wants to have Bill Hancock on. I, you know. I it's I really like Bill. I just I feel bad when I beat up on him. We don't have to we can just ask proper. But he's just going to say, well, we got a contract it's through twenty twenty six and then we'll start exploring this in twenty twenty five. And then I'm not serving my audience when you when you get that kind of answer and eight team format would with a designated group of five group of five spots would also well the chorus of those who believe it's unfair that a team like central Florida with two consecutive undefeated seasons. Limited. I all this stuff is is obvious. We've been saying this for a long time. Is there anything else in here? I got to does say what you said get rid of the conference championship. Yes. It could be a big hold up for the SEC. Did she just listen to the show? And then just say, you know, what maybe I'll write a column on this. We settle this stuff. The playoff enjoys a level of support that I think is rather extraordinary would that approval rating go up if they're more teams involved? Probably this is Bob bulls. Be this is a big twelve Commissioner does that mean it would avoid controversies. No because you'll always have an argument about the ninth and tenth spot. No, no, not going to have that argument at nine and ten it's the same way. If you don't make NCWA tournament. You got no argument there, nothing if I give I just don't want the power five conferences to take up all the spaces here central Florida would at least have had a chance they would've faced Alabama. And we would once and for all central Florida come on down put up or shut up here. You would you would maybe it's a blow out, but you have storylines here. Get rid of those conference championship games and make these playoff game Alabama playoff game at Clemson playoff game. At Notre Dame playoff game at Oklahoma. And then you could make the bowl games, even more important..
"eighty five hundred million dollars" Discussed on WTMJ 620
"Speaker robin boss who produced this really interesting video the other day about is riding ambulance showing you know potholes of things he says no easy answers everything needs to be on the table we're now joined by the a speaker the simply robin boss good morning good morning jeff how are you i am well thank you okay what's so let me i have a couple specific questions but let me let you start cause i know you disagree with some of the things that have been out there with regarding your position well let's start by saying you would mention it before the break about politician should not commit political suicide by proposing you know twenty thirty thank aspect increases and you're exactly right which is why that's not what anybody is doing of course to states senators in an effort to get media for themselves put out one eighty five hundred million dollar increased then guess taxes would translate into if we stop the borrowing altogether right of course that's not reasonable but what i have that is if you look at governor walker's own transportation policy study committee which with put together hand picked by governor walker a couple years ago it's had we had about a five hundred billion dollar are five hundred million dollar deficit just to keep a road to defend condition and now here we are a couple years later the deficit of running closer to a billion dollars up by any in which is five hundred million per year right in line with what that's study found and we can either choose to not reconstruct southeastern without from pre ways like secretary got leads but yesterday first seventy years and i don't know but you put the rose or not gonna left seventy more years so we can have a thought a lot of conversation the face i don't we find every dollar of away from the the ot i don't we find every way to make look rhodes less expensive develop but if after we've done all those things are a part of a package we need to find ways to pay for it i certainly think it's more fiscally responsible to pay as your golf with the rhodes that we need to repair as opposed to just putting on the credit card expecting the paper it's a little yes to this it you are in my cliff if i'm hearing.