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Feral Dogs Respond to Human Hand Cues
"This is scientific American sixty seconds science. I'm Suzanne barred. Dogs began to diverge from wolves. Tens of thousands of years ago when their wild ancestors started interacting with humans over time domestication shaped canine behavior. And today dogs are especially adept at understanding cues from humans for example when a person pointed a bull a pet dog will usually approach it on crimes aims of complex slanting gestures have been dried that the dogs and they seem to be good at it. Behavioral Biologist Anita drew of the Indian Institute of Science Science Education and research. Wolves are a different story however then same experiments at done with semi-captive was was seemed to be quite batted. So there's is this fake open question of how the dogs become dogs but drew is interested in whether dogs required training to understand cues like pointing or if the behaviour is innate. Most studies have focused on pet dogs in developed countries but by drew thinks. It's a mistake to overlook how stray dogs respond to human human cues in India. You have a huge population of three dogs. They're not controlled by humans and they live on the streets for generations so we who says that the feeding dogs are very nice system which could give us imports about what dogs could have been like before the game into our homes before we made made them bots of Families for the study. The researchers approached stray dogs on the streets of several Indian cities. One experimental presented the dogs with a piece piece of raw chicken in a plastic bull about half of the time. The dogs ran away scared but the friendlier dogs at stuck around were tested for their ability to respond onto pointing and the idea was to test a need ability off dogs. You'll understand simple gestures pointing us. Then they have no training whatsoever. Whoever wants a dog proved interested? The first experimental put chicken in one of two bulls and covered both bowls a second experimental who had no Knowledge College of which bowl contain the meat and thus could not give sub-conscious Q.. Information pointed at one of the Bulls while the dog watched and then there's experiment about eighty eighty percent followed the point and went to the ball. Back declined to that result was true whether the experimenter pointed at it just momentarily or for an extended ended period of time by drew thinks. This demonstration provides evidence that training is not required for dogs. To understand complex. Pointing cues the study study is in the Journal. Frontiers in psychology. Perhaps further studies with. FERAL canines can help reveal more about what makes dogs are best friends. Apparently the even when a person and a dog have just met. Thanks for listening for scientific American sixty seconds science. I'm Suzanne Bard.
S5 Ep48 Artificial Sweeteners. Good or Bad
"Housego scary because everybody so win. Rabbit dot assume gets how dot com call call. Had the doctor go number. How how call they call them gentleman. The doctor is in. The house. Is dr ron. Dr ron filtered uncensored in our this season and would you believe it. Today is december. I and and we are having our forty eight episodes this this year. So ladies and gentlemen as usual. I welcome you with an attitude of gratitude and i want you all to become super spreaders. Be a superspreader of love. Be a superspreader of light. Truth and gratitude okay. This way. we're going to get through this time in our lives. And i wanna remind you what i've told you the past couple of weeks ships don't sync because of the water around them ships sync because of the water. They gets inside of them. So why am i telling you that. Don't let what is happening around. You get inside of you and weigh you down. I don't want you sinking. So ladies and gentlemen. This program contains general medical. The medical information heard on this program is not advised and should not be treated as such. You are encouraged to confirm any information of taper this program with other sources every view all information regarding any medical condition or treatment with your physician. And i wanna thank all of you. That have been tuning into a doctor. Ron unfiltered on says it. We are having a good time here on pod beam but as you know Our shows are catalogued can be heard on pod being apple podcasts. Google play amazon And alexa blueberry and spotify iheart iheartradio and tune in radio sales. Carry the doctor. Rhonda unfiltered uncensored podcasts. And his little bit. Cool here in florida today. Not used to this type of weather so you'll hear my voice on. I'm sorry about that so this past saturday. I talked about the hopkins study and today show is going to be on diet. Sodas don't would don't don't fear but we were of the head of the game talking about that hopkins study on saturday. It's made the news and almost every place except the mainstream and there was a study done by dr brand genevieve assistant program director of applied economics. Master's degree program at hopkins. Otherwise known as john hopkins who gets a lot of funding from melinda. And i'm bill gates foundation and basically what that studies indicated was that kobe deaths are nothing more than an exercise in and relabeling them and what the researchers found was that we are not having an excess number of deaths this year but to paraphrase this study Heart heart disease deaths. Cancer does all went down by similar by the same number as desperate increase in the cova group. So they really stated that this. Kobe has relatively no effect on deaths in the united states. So brianna looked at twenty twenty data during the seasonal period covid nineteen deaths exceeded deaths from heart. Diseases that was unusual. She thought heart diseases always been number one. 'cause six hundred and fifty thousand a year however when taking a closer look at the death number she noticed something strange when she compared to number of deaths per 'cause during that period twenty twenty two twenty eighteen. She noticed that instead of the expected increases across all causes there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease and deaths from other causes. Went down which was contrary to what has been observed in previous years. Interestingly ladies and gentlemen the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equal the increase in deaths by covid nineteen so what does and thank. She thinks that deaths due to heart diseases respirable tori diseases influenza and pneumonia may instead be or may have been categorized as being due to covid nineteen. And i'm not gonna go into the rest of this like i did saturday. But we'll talk about this again. This coming saturday. Because hopkins has retracted. His analysis claiming it was flawed. But you know it is not a flawed study. They get a lot of their funding from the gates foundation. Adalah these numbers came from the cdc itself and ladies and gentlemen. Do you think this virus is real this talk about this. This talk about this virus and the testing for this virus. This coming saturday because it is saddening to see how the totalitarians have been able to use. Fear propaganda lies and misinformation to control the vast majority of americans and make them comply it like sheep. As i've been saying we have been fooled. Schooled used and abused in this edge. Engineered flu panic. And why is it being done is being done to enslave populations. We're not here to ruin your day because there is some light at the end of the tunnel and shining light of truth will prevail. I'm afraid of a new way of new wave of lockdowns and let me tell you how that's going to happen. There have been no reporting much of corona because of the holiday that we just experience and a lot of government agencies. Were not working so a couple. Things are going to happen later this week. All of a sudden you're going to see a big jump in cases why because they haven't been reported not because there are new ones. They just have not been reported for days. And what's the other thing that's happening now. A lot of people are not able to get outside either because of locked down under whether their vitamin d levels drop. And what happens when your vitamin d levels drop. You are susceptible to the flu. So there's gonna be a lot of numbers coming out and maybe another wave of lockdowns subservient and fearful because if you want people to be willing to accept a solution you have them make them realize they have a problem a dark problem. Okay so just be prepared for. No that is not as bad as they say because the death rate continues to drop saturday. We'll talk about this again. We'll talk about the vaccines that everybody is so willing to put their arm out a vaccine that have never been used before vaccines that get into yourself can change your dna. They're called 'em rn. A vaccine they hijack your cells. Some of them may have a lucifer raise enzyme minister that you can be tracked. And we'll talk a little bit about what pfizer did at the end of their study. And maybe the truth of it is that none of us will be going back to our normal lives. But you know what the elite the gates's the bazars rockefeller's the foul cheese. They really hasn't affected them. So this vaccine is the carrot that they want us to go after right. Okay so just my take on it and we'll discuss this on our kovic saturday. I may have a guest with me to discuss this. So why are we talking about artificial sweeteners. Because what have i said for the last eight months that are vaccine coms from our innate immunity and that we have to have a superior interior we have to keep our gut happy that because our gut could has the ability to support eighty percent plus or minus of our immunity eighty eighty percent of our immunity resides in the gut. And we've talked about how to keep us prebiotics posed by addicks and spore -biotics. Keep our gut happy. So what does animal research show. It shows artificial. Sweeteners can cause dna damage. And listen to this and interfere with the normal and healthy activity of gut bacteria. The artificial sweeteners reviewed were aspartame. Sucralose saccharin neo tame advantageous him and a sulfate potasium. Saccharin caused the greatest. Most widespread damage exhibiting both cytotoxic and geno toxic effects. What does that mean. It was toxic to cells and damages damaged. Genetic information in the cells. Aspartame was found because dna damage other. Recent research shows. Artificial sweeteners damaged vascular function and Changes that may be important during the onset and progression of diabetes and obesity. Isn't that the reason why everybody wants to take these artificial sweeteners. because they have diabetes him because they don't wanna get get fat now. This an animal study remember. Observation does not mean causation. But we have to pay attention to it and think about it especially if it's something that can be can be changing our lives there's journal call molecules and they found that all artificial sweeteners currently approved and deemed safe by the us food and drug administration caused dna damage and interfere with normal and healthy activity of gut bacteria. So the new vaccines are going to do something to our dna because the messenger. Rna's gonna end there. Go in there and challenge our dna to make these spike proteins. We already had these artificial sweeteners in there. Doing the same thing so basically all artificial sweeteners are toxic to gut bacteria. And according to the researchers the effects on your gut health may in turn affect your body's ability to process regular sugar and other carbohydrates. Now they went through each one. But as a general rule they are toxic to your dna and your gut bacteria sucralose sucralose as i said as a chlorine sweetener is classified as an gannett chlorine toxic to your genes toxic. When he did get into that in a second and about our diabetics out there. Do you know artificial. Sweeteners are linked to diabetes. Cardiovascular disease study upon study is showing growing evidence that artificial sweeteners raised your risk of obesity and type two diabetes. The same were greater than regular sugar. We're not even talking about fructose and high fructose corn syrup that that's the subject of another podcast. It seems that high amounts of sugar and artificial sweeteners caused vascular impairment. That may be important during the onset and progression of diabetes and obesity. However the artificial sweeteners accumulated in the blood and they harm the blood vessel linings to a greater degree than just sugar and how about artificial sweeteners. Waking is been convincingly shown that artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite they increase your cravings for carbs and they cause metabolic dysfunction that promotes fat storage and weight gain. Goes back to one thousand nine hundred eighty six. When seventy eight thousand seven hundred women were followed for a year and the ones that are used artificial. Sweeteners were significantly more likely to gain weight compared to those who did not use them on a regular basis regardless of where they started out in this study whatever whatever way they started out it was it was applicable to all waits twenty five year long san antonio heart study found that those who drank diet soda were significantly more likely to gain weight compared to those who drank regular soda the yale journal of biology and medicine summarize their studies on weight gain and explain those effects those effects in light of neurobiology food forward in other words. You fool in your brain but your brain knows better as gonna make up those sugar calories later on your body is instantly smarter than you think. It is not fooled by zero calories sweetness so when you eat something sweet what happens your brain releases. Dopamine dopamine do that act that activates your brain's reward center. You feel good about it. You've heard of leptin. An appetite regulating hormone. That's the one that tells your brain your full once. You have a certain number of calories ingested but when you consume something that tastes sweet but does it. Contain any calories your brain's pleasure. Pathway still gets activated by the sweet taste but there is nothing to deactivate. It says the calories never arrive so happens the artificial sweeteners. Trick your body into thinking that it's going to receive calories. When the calories failure arrived your body continues to signal that it needs more that's results in carb cravings ladies and gentlemen people who consumed high amounts of artificial sweeteners have higher levels of hemoglobin a. One c. which is a long term measure of blood sugar. You see where. I'm going with this. Have you want to improve your health. Would you think well. I think you have to ditch the artificial sweeteners type two diabetics especially if you're overweight and have insulin resistance. You have to understand this. I have a stack of abstracts about artificial sweeteners. Linked to glucose intolerance study after study and sucrose which is known as splendor. That has a significant list of safety concerns. You know when you hate splendid it releases something called claro pro panels. You know what i know. You don't know what they are. I didn't know about it but they belong to a class of toxins known as dioxins. And those of you. That are old enough to remember vietnam. Dioxin was a component of agent orange. One of the most dangerous chemicals known to man it has been shown that sucralose can destroy as much as fifty percent of the micro bio manure gut and boy. Do we need a superior. Interior and splendor alters glucose insulin and something called gop. One group got glucose glucose gone like peptide levels that promotes weight gain and insulin. Resistance doesn't sound too good. does it. So these diet sodas are not healthier than regular suitors and you know what diet soda can be addictive. I think a lot of you have found this. Is it worth having a stroke over. Researchers found that people who drank a drank diet soda drinks daily where forty three percent more likely to have suffered a vascular event including stroke. This significant association persisted even after controlling for other factors. That could increase the risk. What are those other factors. while smoking. lack of physical activity alcohol consumption diabetes heart disease dietary factors quote. This study suggests that diet soda is not an optimal substitute for sugar. Sweetened beverages that may be associated with a greater risk of stroke. Myocardial infarction Death than regular seven. Ah i'm not making this up in the literature. Remember is not a great idea to use this. If you wanna lose weight die. Sodas raise your risk of diabetes. I have a stack on that women who drank one. Twelve ounce diet soda had a thirty three percent increase. Risk of type two diabetes women who drank one twenty ounce soda had a sixty six percent rate increase of diabetes and it turns out that the average diet soda drinker consumes three diet drinks per day. So you know we. We've talked over the years about ancil keys and his fat-free diet it's not the fact that makes you obese. Is all the carbs sugar. Replace the fat because of that that gentleman and there's lots of studies that we've reported on about low fat diets. I'm not going to get into that today. Because i just want to bring to your attention the side effects of the artificial sweeteners and how they can be addictive. You know they say it could be more addictive than cocaine because why artificial. Sweeteners are hundreds to thousands of times sweeter than regular sugar. Boy when you trick the body it gets back at you because tricks you your metabolism and did thinking of sugar. So what is your your metabolism. Do it once a pump out. Insulin and insulin is a great ramon to keep your sugar down but you know what else it does. It is a fat storage hormone if you have too much of it. And it's not being used for what it was designed for slows down your metabolism. You burn fewer calories and it seems that if you consume artificial sweeteners you eat more. Hate to tell you ladies and gentlemen there is no free ride out there. I wish i could be more positive about artificial sweeteners. But i couldn't find anything to be positive about because it is a anything a fast tractor diabetes. I read one researcher. These a wolf in sheep's clothing. He's a. that's the perfect name for these artificial sweeteners. Not only will they not help you to lose weight. They'll do just the opposite so they are good for something i give you that. They add billions of dollars to these. Mega corporations may get you put on medications which will help the big pharmaceutical companies. My gosh ladies and gentlemen this is a heck of a subject right. You think that it's going to be fun. Have have a pop as my midwestern friends. Say all right. So what else do halfway. Let me just check something. Can't go there all right. So we're not gonna talk about individuals. Was they all have their idiosyncrasies sucralose the one that has a lot of corine in it and the other thing that they're finding that is upsetting to me that these artificial sweeteners can have can have an effect on inflammation so we say that inflammation is the basis of most chronic diseases. Okay and here's another reason not to have these things in your system. I mean study after study is showing risk. I mean why. Would you wanna drink quarry out in other stuff that kills off bacteria in your swimming pool. Well that's sure colossus. And then when you heat it. Dioxin and has been. There's lots of studies on this. This isn't just new. So i guess one of my one of my researchers said that if you want corey his jump in the pool and start drinking. Don't take the sucralose. I don't go for that either. But yet you get the idea. He tried to make a point. So as we're getting older and we wanna get older. We want to have healthier years in our healthy healthier years. As we get older we should We got a little wiser and we have to think of these artificial sweeteners as antibiotics because they destroy our gut bacteria. That's the most important thing. I think i learned from doing the research for this show. Yes it can interfere with our dna but we can heal that but if our interior is not superior. We're going to get sick. We're going to give viruses. Were gonna get flu so please be careful well less than one candidate of regular or diet sooner. Raise your risk cardiovascular disease. Just remember that okay. This is from november twentieth than one candidate of regular or diet soda raises your risk of cardiovascular disease healthier at all you want to protect your heart you don't want diabetes and you wanna protect your gut. So are there some sugar substitutes. There are. we'll go through them. There are things that you can do one thing you should know you know we talk about the deaths from kovacic sugar beverages sugary beverage alone in twenty fifteen caused one hundred and eighty three thousand worldwide deaths including one hundred and thirty three thousand diabetic deaths at forty four thousand heart disease that that's and six thousand cancer deaths it's almost like the tobacco industry. Okay they stop telling the people that could understand this about it. And they start shifting their focus to low and middle income countries to offset their declining sales. I had a professor one. Time said that the biggest weapon we have for other countries shipping them coca cola get them sick he probably was right probably was right he just give me a second yes coca cola in please. We have a person who has called into the show occasionally from india and be glad to talk with him so diet soda is bad right. It does happy to lose weight and can make you sick. I can't find a reason to recommend you know. It's even been associated with depression and kidney damage. So why do you wanna do that. You know i. I don't think there's anything wrong with drinking coffee. Drink four cups of coffee. You drink four cups of coffee. You know what happens you. Lower your depression risk by ten percent. If you drink four cans a day of pop you have a thirty percent. Higher risk of depression. You have thirty percent greater reduction in kidney function with diet soda with daily diet soda. Thirty six percent higher risk of metabolic syndrome obesity and diabetes and hypertension cardiovascular disease goes up heart attacks and strokes as we talked about. Needless to say you're gonna make your dentist happy. Because these these diet drinks are nearly as corrosive to your teeth as battery acid and some chronic obstructive pulmonary disease symptoms have been linked to these sodas. You know if you don't have a happy gut. There's a gut brain axes and that's been associated with parkinson's disease multiple sclerosis memory. Laws brain fog chronic fatigue syndrome. And gosh who doesn't doesn't have brain fog. Say that. I talked to getting the idea. We have sif. i can get him one here. I think i can. We have bundy. Could after well. Spontaneous four thirty four here in southwest florida. How are you sir. Finds a i want to ask gluttons extra easier any. Hello talk with pontiac. i over week ago. He's from india. I remember for sir cannot hear him. Hello hello right so you get the idea about hello. Diet sodas week. I think i'm going to revisit high-fructose corn syrup and table sugar because of the the effects on our health especially during this time. We're going through all this stress. But i think the message. I want you to take home today. Is that these artificial sweeteners affect your gut bacteria and therefore your overall health and your immune system and when you're microbiome is distressed. You have the tendency to get sick with flu with kohl's with obesity. It can expand your waistline. Ladies and gentlemen. Your gut is so important to every part of your health. Well i just try to ponti. Hello sorry about that. Ladies and gentlemen. I'll try one more time so i like Our audience here in. But i don't hear him wanting i'm sorry maybe we can talk on saturday It seems that if i use a different browser is he's for me to hear you. And i do apologize trying to get away from everything google because the way they track everybody so try. I'm trying to the a new browser. But i guess it doesn't work too good with pod being sorry about that. I do apologize so some natural sweeteners. Before i go wrong. Honey stevia honey is about sixty. Four calories per tablespoon steady has zero calories coconut sugar. A forty five calories per tablespoon maple syrup fifty two calories per tablespoon. Some people i know are using brown. Rice syrup one tablespoon fifty five calories and monk fruit and zero calories. That's pretty darn good to stevie is my favorite. It's a native to south america. it's been used for hundreds of years and it supports healthy blood sugar levels and the element in these leaves is two hundred times swedish sugar and you can get it in liquid packets. Dissolve the tab of desirable tablets. And you can bake with. It does not have the side effects of artificial sweeteners. Stiffy is related to the sunflower and some people experience a slight metallic after taste. So you might wanna try a brand if it to happen to you. That is higher in stereo sides. That's on the packet. It'll be a little bit sweeter but you won't have the after taste and believe it or not the ada. The american diabetes association does recommend stevia. Okay ladies and gentlemen. We've talked about this. I do apologize to bundy. And i'm looking for his question is eating are your eating habits. Correlated with diabetes of well. Yeah especially for type two diabetics right type to your challenging your pancreas to make insulin and most of the time when you have something real sweet your body overshoots. It makes it gets your blood sugar down but then it keeps your sugar down because the insulin level doesn't Go down fast enough by itself. Remember insulin is a hormone so it makes you make you heavier and then is a vicious cycle and you get hungry again when you have low blood sugar. You get hungry. You could ask a diabetic when their sugar drops you want to eat more. So some people in the united states and i see in detour using a kito light diet. Okay with intermittent fasting so they would go say from Eight o'clock at night. The twelve o'clock the following day without eating they would get try to get twelve to sixteen hours of fast in every day and have a meal then and then another meal later in the day. But don't eat anything for twelve to sixteen hour period every day depending on how you're working and that's called the intermittent fasting very popular Another thing that i find my physician friends doing is recommending one day of fasting. A week drinking lots of water. Okay half your body. Weight anounces one hundred and fifty pounds ounces of water in a day. They're finding that is also good too controlling type. Two diabetes type one diabetes. Insulin-dependent is a different story. It depends on how much insulin how it's managed. What type of delivery system. And i have been retired not to know enough about these new delivery systems that are controlled by a computer chip but definitely taiwan or type two diabetes. You want to stay away from artificial sweeteners okay. They do not help either condition mainly because they interfere with your gut bacteria but this dna damage. And i'm reading about really upsets me especially with the coming of these vaccines which are going to change our lives of just. It's just frightening to me especially if they can put an enzyme in with these vaccines so they can track you and they say there's a program now with oracle google that l. vaccine recipients will be tracked for two years why because these vaccines were developed over three or four month period. They really don't know the long term effects. Now are they going to put this lucifer as and all the backseat. So they can extract a signal from it. Can they input a signal to it. I don't know just being paranoid. Are we going to see an onslaught of autoimmune diseases from these vaccines. Is it truly going to be a global reset and that the globalist feel. There's too many people in this world. I don't know. I have questions. But i don't know and i'm sorry buddy. I don't understand insulin. Within fifty five minutes. So what i'm talking about is is intermittent fasting which is our not minutes. It's anywhere from twelve to sixteen hours per day of not eating and combining khumbu confining. You're eating too. They remaining ours monty. If i'm sorry I won't use this Browser on saturday and we talk about it during the kovic. Oh i have lots of things to talk about about this pfizer vaccine. And what they're doing. I mean that was as bad as our elections To muddy up the waters for for to follow everybody to see what side effects were going to. Have you know people are worried about once. His dna is changes. Your body going to say it does recognize it and started an auto immune reaction you know. It is possible people are talking about it. I mean j- robert f kennedy jr. He's been testifying about it. All right ladies and gentlemen. I want to thank all of you for listening Hope i contributed something to your health. Today we just have to stay positive and one thing that i want to try and do is help. The eight million people that died in twenty twenty because of starvation and starvation mainly children. I wish some of this nine billion dollars it did. The united states is putting into vaccines that we don't even know going to work. I wish that some of this could go to feeding the children because we know if we feed them one hundred percent of them will live. Someone leave you with that. Thought and gentlemen saturday is Is covert but if a bundy's around we'll talk about anything Okay well see us saturday. If there's anything new coming up next couple days we'll talk about it on thursday. In the meantime god bless week. And we'll talk to you next time chow here. 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Making Resource Sites for Fun and Money with Jase Rodley
"Real quick before we get started. I want to tell you about the build. Something weekly newsletter. It is weekly. It is free and you will get tips tricks and tools delivered directly to your mailbox. I will recap the current week's episode and all of the takeaways. I'll give you a top story content. I wrote and then some recommendation that i've been using that. I think you should check out so it is free. Eight is weekly. it's over at how i built dot it slash subscribe. Go ahead and sign up over. At how i built dot it slash subscribe in an welcome to episode one ninety. Four of how i built it. This episode is brought to you by. Yes please i themes and hosting her jas. Rodley has a lot going on in fact since we recorded this episode. He steps down from his company. Ranked defender to run dialed labs. His energy and drive are apparent in this interview where we talk about making resource sites and making money with those resource sites. Essentially he tells us how to make content to fill a demand and generate a little bit of money the way i even put him on the spot and had him hospitalized me through an idea during the episode. That was not planned. I felt a little bad. But now really jason's a pro so he helped me out and i think that's a really interesting part of the episode so listen for that and more and let me know what ideas you come up with. All right. we'll get to all of that in a minute but let's hear a word from our first sponsor. Hey everybody this episode is brought to you by. Yes please coffee. You've heard me talk about them all summer long. And now we're into the fall upgrade your morning with yes please yes. Please is a fantastic coffee subscription. So they send freshly roasted beans to your door and as somebody who's been using it for about six months now maybe five months I can say that it. This works like gangbusters. Coffee just shows up to my door. 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And we're going to be talking about a whole lot of different stuff around. Seo content marketing coming up with ideas for content and we talked about making resource sites for fun and money. I love fun and money. So maybe we can touch on that to chase. Thanks for joining me today. Thanks very much for having me my pleasure. So well i just gave an intro about some of the stuff. We're going to talk about but before we get into that. Why don't you tell us a little bit about who you are and what you do. I am a ordinary internet market. Guy so i. I make websites number one in google. And that's that's pretty much the summary So i've kinda done every level of seo. I suppose i'm really into the tech. Saad so i obsess over the the How well optimized a website is from a technical point of view but content is really my background content production keyword research and Yeah that's that's pretty much me awesome well as a web developer myself and someone who focuses on making good website. I'm also a bit obsessed with the tech side So why don't we. Why don't we start there If you don't mind and we didn't we didn't talk about that at all in the pre show but What can somebody do to make sure. Their website is up to snuff. As far as the technical side goes for seo I guess there's so many different elements you know. I don't want to just rattle off a list on your but there are so many tools out there now. That can help you to do like. I guess you could say the eighty twenty of of technical. Sei so it doesn't really matter which seo using at the moment up a lot of the the based products so like eight tracks rafts and simbarashe. They've got website to built in now and they will do simple things like Checking broken links and making show. That pages are indexed people. I mean there are so many different factors than again. I don't want to give you a laundry list If you use one of those tools fix those issues you will do. The the bulk of the work nowadays There are some luckily hosted toes. You can use a screaming. Frog spider and website auditor by seo palace weight are kind of my favorites and then in addition to that you have a whole. I would say like the new focus. Nowadays a few years ago everyone was crazy. It was like mobile. Still mobile friendly websites from responsive websites was like a really big deal and nowadays if you if you don't have a mobile friendly website by now i don't even think you trying the ira will. I would say that the you know. Maybe the last major change was website security making the a website secure from my perspective. What's being happening the last couple of years and what's probably going to become more and more important in in the next few years is performance So google has a really great tool Well this guy told built into chrome code lighthouse. And then there's also a website cold web dot dev and that has this measure tool built in that you can use to to measure mostly performance but also accessibility awesome. That sounds great. If i can Just shamelessly plugging my new book right now html css a visual quickstart guide. I talk about all three of those things. I site security performance and accessibility. I think that You hit on some really important topics that you're right aren't going to be the next big focus Because a few years ago it was mobile sites. And like you said if you don't have a mobile site now you're like not even trying Because even if you use like squarespace or wicks or some pre some like template website builder. Those are all responsive right. Those are all they all have mobile. Friendly templates yeah. I mean someone like myself who is being building websites forever. I kinda hate them. Because i can't do enough with them But if flora small business on it pretty great to be able to just shove takes enough of the boxes to work. I mean you didn't have that option if you rewind ten years ago. You didn't have that option. So yeah sure. Things are changing for sure. Yeah absolutely my sister-in-law has a salon. She asked me to build her a website. And i was like nope go to squarespace. I'm like you're not gonna pay me. What i think i should be paid. We're gonna we're gonna be at each other's throats by the end of it just you squarespace it'll make your life much easier and even like you know. I have a few clients that i've had for a long time. That don't have the biggest budgets but with wordpress and a page. Builder like beaver. Builder can do eighty eighty percent of what i need to do with the page builder. And then i'll throw in some html css and custom stuff for the last twenty percent but it really cuts down on the budget for them to you so it's definitely something that web developers or small business owners could take advantage of. Yeah absolutely. I mean this is too to some extent why we set up ranked defender is i. I have a lot of websites myself. So i guess you know. Hopefully we'll talk about this. Later is making websites for money and i have websites that don't really think too much about everyday. And they just they just kind of get neglected. If i don't pay attention to them and so i set up rank defensive because i want to be able to hand off to to attain. Who's keeping these things maintain and making sure that like if links bright they're getting fixed Making sure that it's getting sort of upgraded to the latest standard. Whatever that stand each. So it's yeah i think sometimes people think seo is a little bit set and forget and but it's really a bit of a moving target you know it's like an ad campaign if you neglect an ad campaign for long enough like a ppc campaign you end up. Paying crazy. amounts on that key would work last year. This year doesn't so it's kind of the same deal. Yeah i think that's such an important thing to think about. We're all kinda looking for that. How can i sit on a beach and make money right that four hour workweek that tim ferriss talked about but definitely doesn't adhere to because this podcast alone is four hours Not to knock tim ferriss. Obviously he's doing something right that i'm not doing but You know. I think that the ideas behind the book are being taken literally foot by some people and that tangent is to to point out what you said. Seo is not set and forget is important. I talked about the same thing with courses right. People think that like an online course. We'll be passive income. It's not passive income. You have people who are trying to learn And they might need you and so Managing those expectations is so important from the outset. Yeah i i mean. I don't want to kind of spread the story to across the least different random businesses that i run but by one of my lightest businesseses. Investing in websites on beat will operating websites on behalf of invested. So we have. We've we're only kinda starting off small but we have a million in assets at one time and that is exactly with what you're saying is is motivation for me to set this up is i realized i can build these different types of websites. It's maybe not easy to build. But i guess. I've spent time learning how to build them and i have a system for building them in my tiny the myself but the issue with being like a one man business is when i die. What happens i have a son. I have a two year old son and And my wife obviously add. I mean it. it's on my mind. Now is my the way that i look. 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She found the right niche. And she sold it for a for some amount of money Some undisclosed amount of money and She's moved on from that. And i thought about doing the same thing. And i set up a website because i can do that quickly. And then when it came to producing the content or coming up with a strategy. I kinda fell flat and i started focusing on other things. So let's let's talk about building a resource and maybe you could start with like defining it. Because maybe i've set the wrong expectation here but How would you build something like that. And how do you run it a kite. So when i say resource thought yeah for me. That's just like a fun term for being the being the ultimate source. So i mean wikipedia is awesome right. Yeah imagine imagine if wikipedia didn't exist today and you like man i'm gonna create this like it's gonna be wikipedia to have that yourself and to build up from scratch and i guess that's more of a community driven sought. But it's probably the go-to the most people on most topics like google didn't exist and you had to go to a website. I think most people would probably be like yeah usually kapiti a lot. And that's what i try. And the i try and replicate that idea on a really on a very specific totten niche. So i have some location-based websites like some immigration by websites are purely. Because i'm just like a tax node. And i live overseas. I'd like how to research. Moving overseas myself So kind of research. The possibility of living in a lot of different countries and so. I just started building websites because it was interesting I have like sports by websites. Because i'm into sports and just other random hobbies that usually through my research process just write about things because that's that's how i take notes Whenever i'm researching. And then i'm just so used to building web sites now that it's it's easy for me to will maybe not easy but It's fun for me to turn that into a website. So when i'm when i'm building a website though and went planning out the structure of a website and planning out of content. What i'm the most interested in is writing about what people want. And i think i mean if you think of this in the business sense if you are selling a product that is in demand. It's relatively easy to sell as long as it's priced correctly when you put it in front of those people that that want it's it's you. Life is so much easier. I have tried to sell products that no one wants. And it's like it's a yeah. Benny hit on the wall. So i try and do the same thing with content now is why put i mean in some cases i might pay pay hundreds of dollars for the right piece of content i have i have wrought his who i work with and i'll take with money for really great content but i'm not going to pay hundreds of dollars for content that no one will ever say so. My goal is to get as much value out of that content as possible as much as much revenue out of that content as possible. And i think that's the mistake. A lot of people make when they building websites don't they kind of produce. What they feel is important to tell but then not necessarily producing watts. People want to raid nate to rate so as an issue. I just go like. I'm destroyed two keyword research. I'm i'm interested in water people searching for And as long as you have tight niche you. Can you can create a plan that just I use the word domination. Lots and i think it's the best way to go with. Its yo don't try. Just talk about some of the topics. Talk about all of the topics. That doesn't work if you're on a tight budget and your planning a website on like tennis because obviously there's a lot of topics on tennis but if you an expert on i don't know enough that tennyson a come up with a good example it had mid west or whatever like yeah i mean. That's a pretty niche. Like i imagined that they is. I don't know maybe there is. You don't want to talk of surface because it's really expensive to to water that grass. Yeah right you know. And they're a few topics. So then you can become an like micro or if you want yes so i'ma i just. I switched from my regular show notes app to my field notes. Notebook has now. I'm writing ideas that you're giving me So so may so. Okay actually. I want you to finish this thought right because this is like coming up with the idea for for a resource site. Yeah i mean so. I use a traps religiously. There are tons of different. Seo tolls you can use tons of different keyword research tools. You can use so when people are on like a crazy budget or if i speak with people who had just kinda getting started in this whole this whole industry i think people can get caught up a little bit with with such volume on a stroke of such volume is that no one knows So you can pay a lot of money for i trust to tell you the wrong thing And you can prove you wrong all the time. That's not decide that it's not a valuable guide. It's totally a valuable god. But if you don't have any money. I mean there are tolls around Gosh wet. I'm probably going to beep but you can swear if you want to okay. Well this is a cool website code kayla shit a dot com. Okay yeah And you just talking like a seed kei would and it just goes knots. It just like it'll just spit out thousands of key words And you know this. There's like tons of little toes. Like battle need You don't have to pay full and it. Can you know. I trust a lot of time. That's that's the summary. I mean that's why people like myself pie for is because when stop pricing time in a certain way it just makes sense. Yeah but if you're on a crazy budget and don't want to spend on a kilo to like that. I mean there's tons of free options. You can literally scroll to the bottom of search result page and take the keywords that google has suggested i mean at the bottom of every page. They like did you. Did you made Yeah maybe these times a better and that's telling you those terms because that's what other people are looking for when they search for that initial state. I just i mean my my process is to just brainstorm and just spit out everything and then i reduce reduce reduce so actually going back to number two in. That list is simplify i. I love to simplify. I think my default mode in my brian. It's to make things complex. And so i have to tell myself like okay. This is crazy make it easier make it easier make it easier and ever since i've been bryce that way of doing business things things become a lot a lot easier I've i've become more successful. So my goal with bidets resource websites is to have as few pages as possible. So it's kind of ironic that i'm telling you dominate domination. Become the authority but actually created little content is possible but you can do about it. So it's you you'd want h. Content to be like super super potent and to cover every single topic. Yeah that's really interesting I had a guest on the show recently. His name is dave shrine and he talked about the idea of pillar page And this was a totally new concept to me right. I've kind of taken the more Seth godin approach to blogging. I guess where like a blog a few paragraphs about a thing but he said like these pillar pages should have like thousands maybe tens of thousands of words on them and he was on the about a sales page for marketing. So maybe it's a little bit different but You know it's. I think it's interesting. You have a really have a really potent piece of content so I'm i'm going to pick an idea that i just quickly scribbled down here. I'm a cigar guy. So let's i wanted to create a resource site on cigars for people who've been smoking cigars for ten years. I maybe there are five years. Maybe they're not beginners but they're not Like the old guy in the cigar shop. What kind of like. What kind of content and not subject matter. Wise but like long form videos short-form what kind of content should i be writing for this website. All right so caveat for you is that i'm lack of written content. Okay okay so even the way. I consume content on the internet. Like i listened to a couple of podcasts awake. But i'm not listening to console died. And i watch maybe one informational video ipod month. So i'm like dinosaur. I love written content like outrage dog. I know it's inefficient. But i'll write blog posts along. Because i love it so okay but if i'm thinking down the track of what i would produce for that website and i don't know anything about god's but i mean if i was going to look into that topic first of all i would be like. Whoa what different types. Of god's ave so i think you could easily find a like a ciga- a topic that would be along the lines of light which cigars right for you I don't know what the keyboard would be. That's probably the wrong topic. He would It could be like a ciga- by as guide and already in that. I mean how many different. How many different categories of cigars would you say are well they could be categorized by flavor profile to like where the tobaccos grown size shape. All of those are going to affect to the smoke. The smoking experience so how long they've been aged but most people will look at how strong they are mild medium full where the tobaccos grown and then the the the shape and size all right so this is like a free consulting session for me. Almost was all right so so let's say let's say we've got the buyer's guide which might just be or a which which cigars right for me article ben. We can easily have a a flavor profile. God i don't again. I don't know what the keyword would. So i'm using the wrong terms but it would be like a general guide that discusses those fiber profiles. And i think you can. You can talk instead detail about h. flavor profile and in that you can then link off to a specific flavor profile and again my gut feeling is knock. It is large enough that you would have like. What's one of the five of fraud balls. A coco i'm. I'm just doing a quick search. Now thank you. I didn't realize it'd be putting you on the spot like this. So much von. yeah. I always do this type of things like cocoa cigar like chocolate flavored cigars. Yeah Yeah that's like hints of cocoa is usually how it's described. I mean this is the thing is that's how you that's how you describe it and for me. The goal like the. I've learned so much about marketing. When i realized i am like. I don't know what my audience wants. and when you start to get into this process of researching researching researching like i. I'm only doing like super high level research by from what i'm discovering people are probably more likely searching for chocolate slighted. Okay as opposed to cut. I'm sure if you keep digging you'll find more cargo stuff but it may be that although you're used to using the term coco and maybe that's like what your part of the whale refers to it is actually the rest of the. Us like in a different region. I kinda referred to in a different way. There's all these different things. And i just try to come in with no bias and let the keywords tell me tell me what people are searching for and and that's an excellent point though right because i have been smoking cigars for Like a third of my life. At this point i guess like oh definitely over a decade and i know for the most part the terminology right. But if i'm if i'm aiming at somebody who's maybe smoked a few cigars and wants to get into it more. Maybe they don't know. That coco is a flavor profile. Yes exactly so. Sometimes when people are describing things for the first time they're kind of working with words that media to them and they kind of haven't become part of that part of the same yet. Yeah if they're a beginner they're like well what does it taste like. I guess it's chocolate. Yeah right and when. I get more educated them. Don't use it trump right. That's most sophisticated but in the early days like they just working with with what i know. Yeah so you've got your fly profile that would be like a f- fairly authorities article that is just talks about all the flavors and then you can easily write an article on each of the flight. Okay where it's grown is an awesome. I can totally see how that will work because And actually fun factually andoras. I think one of indonesia's largest imports is tobacco One of the doors Exports and imports on really. yeah so they grow pretty bad quality tobacco here as i understand it because the cigarette industry sells a lot of cigarettes here because of the low styles tax interesting but before like an import cigarettes. They have to export have to sell all of the locally grown tobacco here so it's kind of like a little money. Oh wow game the where. It's growing article. I mean you can talk about all of this all the different countries. But i'm sure that you could easily write an authority article on each country. Maybe the type of tobacco that knowing four in the gaza they produce similarly with size shape. I mean all of everything. You've rattled off is like enough enough seed topics to kick off the research good pun and and so i produced spreadsheet. I i spit out spreadsheet I everything goes into into notepad at first. I'm just like texts Smashing out texts copies coffee. And then i organized that into a spreadsheet and every single roy is a page or page. That could be a blog post. That could be on an ecommerce site that might be like a product every rose essentially its own url exactly and and then some of those pages will have some of those moderately two key words. Some of them by have ten or more. That i'm trying to rank full and i think that's where things have changed a lot in. Sei is back. When i started it was very much one page per perky word and now things have totally changed. I mean i have some pages. I've some websites where probably a hundred or so kayla at the bringing traffic to that patch. It's just because they're so many very similar terms that people use to talk about the same topic and google so much snot with understanding like topics versus key words. Yeah i think people some people haven't quite got out of set of keywords and they don't realize that humans understand topics ryan so attention to fire. Y so yeah. That's really interesting right. Because i i use a popular. Seo plug in for my wordpress site. And i used to be very. We'll say diligent about filling out the key word and making sure that all the that it's all green ducks or whatever and and then. I started to wonder like is this really. Is this really helping me. And i kind kinda stopped doing that. Because i was like all right. I'll put in the the key phrase or the key word. I'm trying to rank for but i i wanna write good readable content right like based on topic instead and focusing on the green dots is maybe not the best use of my time. Yeah i think that was great. Way to to try and people the thinking about these elements so i think that plugging did a lot of good. Yeah or for quite a long time. I don't get me wrong. I should say that they do. I mean we're talking about joost. Seo and they still do. I read their blog regularly and l. of their advice but I think for awhile. I trained myself to focus on the wrong thing that they were trying to teach. I'll put it that way yet. And i think in some ways they've been kind of Teaching that yeah right. If you read a lot of this stuff they like you know. This is a god. God that's all right and and that's the kind of i mean. That's that's another part that i use in. My process is google's really transparent. Well they really hike in some ways but they re transparent in other words you know what ranks right. I mean you know what's on page one and you don't wanna copy what's on page one but part of my process is analyzing the page or the pace of content. Whatever that i've produced or that. Maybe i've produced a few years ago in that contents gone out of tight and it needs updating and i analyzed that against what's on page one of google and really the top few results in google and it'll tell me things like meyer. Original content is now white so long any native show this content you wrote three and a half thousand words and actually now everything us rankings. Two thousand woods or missing you know. Maybe i've written about cigars. And i've written about coca five. It's gaza and i haven't mentioned the show like this clear woods is clear tomes missing And that's that's actually important to include and so an everything that's ranking includes shape so yes you can't does a lot of general roles but you really need to know that that's a general rule. That's right so it is. Yeah and less you always. 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It's easy but you really need to understand control you have not so i think affiliate is great and i love affiliate butts. You need to be very aware that that you're making money. It's good when you making money bicycle. Right right And that that can go. That could be turned off at anytime the important thing to remember. She's still on traffic and that traffic is valuable. And i think this is what people forget. So this is why. I love investing in websites because You can buy an affiliate website especially in affiliate website offset. The commissions have been slashed. And you can get it for a good price and maybe a certain type of that network can make more money than it was making before. Maybe you can strike up a direct deal with the brand that is very closely related to it. I mean you know if you take your cigar example. Maybe there aren't any good affiliate programs but if you contact a high quality cicada lexa gossip in the us either website. It gets one hundred thousand sessions a month. These people are like super kane. It's very transactional content. You want to advertise on my website. They will most. I mean few businesses would say no to that. Especially if it's in that fiber yeah. I have a few different types of websites and depending on how they make money. There's kind of a different risk profile or different profile for how that revenue comes in so affiliate affiliate through amazon for example Will amazon associates kinda predictable. It's more to do states. Analogy certain products might earn and better in certain times of year like skiing website. It's pretty straightforward with april by skis. a summer. You know like a home. Entertainment like an outdoor and time type website or maybe like pull toys. People are going to be buying that in summer and then pretty much. Everything takes up for. Christmas doesn't really matter. What nature in usually. Yeah you make good money at christmas. I always update my gift guides like november first around about that those always kill it for the holidays. Yep i would say that you have websites like that where it's seasonality is probably the more important thing. Then you have other websites where it can be quite volatile so it's entirely based on traffic And siles so maybe this like a super deal on at the time and you can push that and you can you can get a big revenue boost but then that can go away or that affiliate program that you've made really great money from circa circle lodge commissions for six months or a year. They decided to close. Or i go. I go bankrupt or whatever that it's it's sort of fleeting you have to be very adaptable. And it's totally not passive will say yeah and then the last one which is kinda. My favor is is what i call rankin rent. Which is i spent years trying to trying to set up a marketing agency and seo. Sem kinda sucks to sell to the honest. Your you'll like. Hey you give me this money and in theory in six months twelve months you'll get results people. I don't know it's pretty risky. May not just pay google diane clicks immediately and almost like a really expensive kickstarter. Right where it's like you pay today and then you get it like a year from now maybe and like the tricky thing is. You don't have full control when it's a website anyway. So i mean i used to do. Seafo tech companies. You know if the lack i take small. It companies and they always want host the website themselves and no offense to their developers. But like i mean quite often they would be in situations where that might change. I guess like systems changed i upgraded the systems and it was old luckily hosted and that break a bunch of stuff and ontario hair out. Because i want to get him results and it. It's almost like this predictable. Cycle of you begin to get results by break. Something you have to fix it. You begin to get results that break something. You have to fix it because they didn't get results and So i i kind of i love this rank and rent motto because you can rank a website like build a website that you know he's gonna generate lates percent type of business and then when it's number one in google give them a call and say hey. I have a website. It's number one in google. Do you wanna be on it and like the sales pitch is so much easier. Yeah you did. You did all the you did all the work beforehand. And now you're you're selling them the results instead of selling them the solution to eventually get the result. Exactly so it's like. Hey there's no risk do you want to be number one. And then just pay on a monthly month to month basis to rent the website. All contact data get changed either and they get older late they want. Wow that's so. That's super interesting. So like Okay so go back to the cigar example. Now let's say you have created a site it's like best cigars dot com or whatever and your ranking number one and then you reach out to me joe cigar company or joe cigar shop and you say this is number one. Do you wanna rent this website for however many months and then what an at now i can put on my own lead magnet on there and stuff like that or whatever your logo on there if you will have your telephone number your email address i mean you do whatever you want so one one thing that i love doing ease with content marketing builds a lot of trust. I mean i have my personal website. People contact me all the time. And like i just tell my watch story on that website. Run i don't really. I'm not kind of i don't. I'm not hold of back type pleasant. Yeah and i was a little bit uncomfortable doing that. I until i realized like people. Send me the story. And it's it's actually super not that they identify with me. The stomach trust and that helps from an seo point of view when i sell seo people contact me. And they're they'll they'll discover something about my life and they'll be like hey. I'm really into mountain biking as well. You know this is co can we talk. Sei sometime and it just makes the silos process so much easier if the myself. Because i'm a i'm a bit interpreted end i. I tried to make clear that people who advertising on these websites is you're dealing with very warm lates people i mean. People are grateful that the content you've produced not that you have actually produced it so so what i do. Sometimes it's i. I i would put like joe is the author of this article And even though you haven't written it It's kind of like joe. Is the extra on cigars and joe has been eating smoking this long. Set up his business because he's so passionate about it every people alive. Oh wow i gotta talk to this guy so yeah. It can be really cool. Yeah i find it works especially well. I like service based products with like a consultative sil- right yeah very commerce laguna body shop or something like that right where anything really like auto body shop i mean even i'm sure developing. It's i'm always impressed when when deaths have like really great websites by the way i like. I mean it's such. It's such a great Late gen System your business because people know that this guy. This guy really knows what he's talking about and again it's a soft style the latest warm. They've been radi. Duck the read three or four of your articles and they pretty much convinced. They're gonna pay you money. The flavin contact you right right absolutely. I mean let's this is something i've noticed happened to me recently. Is i've been being introduced as the podcast guy. And like in my head. I know like real podcast guys so like i'm like i'm not the podcast guy. But they're like i read your blog and all this great advice and i'm like yeah all right. I established trust now which is good. Because i've launched a podcasting course. And i hope i want people to buy it so i hope they trust me enough but i think you're so right and i think it's amazing Telling your life story. It gives people something to relate to you already right and i'm a super extroverted person so like i could talk forever to anybody about anything but you know when people come up to me a conferences. And they're like that picture that you posted of your daughter was so sweet and it's great that you both like the yankees or whatever. Even though i'm red sox fan Like it gives them something now. Now that we've connected to on more than just like a business transactional basis exactly. Yeah and so. I guess these websites don't always have that whole story but even in some cases if like if if we go down cigar example and you were you on alexa gosto and we. We had a website on this. I might cite you actually. Let's edit this existing article and put in his intro about your history with this may be like your father was involved in that industry and you'll really passionate about it now and something and i mean i ranked i guess what i rank is like the the bicyc- sought and from there. You can do anything with it. That's the best part of of having a website. Yeah for sure that's awesome. I really think first of all all cigar website suck like. I don't know what goes on in that industry but they're all terrible So if i can improve that industry in any way i want to But i think that's amazing and like you definitely struck a chord there because like my dad doesn't smoke but i got into because my grandfather So that's like you know it's a nice personal touch point But man we are. We've been talking for a while As we wrap up here maybe. Can you give the listeners. One or two tips on if they want to start a resource site. It's probably going to be something you mentioned already. But if they want to start a resource site. What's the first two steps that they should take. If you're gonna start a race saw sought what. I would say easby very clear on your so. Make sure that you know what you want to build outside about and then brainstorm on every topic that maybe even you wish you knew about before you started researching if you're experienced sometimes you can forget this type of thing but kind of tron remember back to when your plea gita or maybe even ask a friend on On what i wished. I knew and just run everything down. Just everything down down and then when you have kind of a bunch of nonsense some coherent different topics group everything together. And then go to keyword research tools on from from honestly. I would simplify simplify. Simplify so i try and kind of you might have hundreds of pages Just try and reduce that down until you've got like a nas little list of titus o blog posts. Yeah that's great. And then it makes the the the project Less overwhelming to write saying. I gotta make one hundred pages or saying i gotta make ten pages or twenty or whatever. Totally different yeah. My ranking rent websites at ten pages awesome. Yeah that's that's fantastic. And just for clarification is there like An about page or is it like all focused potent content. I'm thinking through my thoughts. Affiliates thoughts have about pages. Okay some of my rank and rent sites have service pages whether they've asked to add on afterwards. Yeah i'm not even sure any of them have about pages interesting. This is. This is what i'm inc. Keep it simple. Yeah right interesting. All the contact details are in the header. Footer and the and the author box and i mean what are you need an about title interesting very cool. Well thank you for clarifying that before we leave today. Do you need to ask you my favorite question which is An i'll preface this by saying he doesn't have to be an actual secret. It could be like a good piece of advice that you don't think anybody takes Do you have any trade secrets us. Once you have a website that's established you know if you have produced a website has really great content and you wanna get links go to help a report dot com and sign up and try and make it a habit to reply to like depends on how much time you have make it a habit to reply to one. A. die wanna wake. Doesn't matter is making a habit. It feels like a hell of a waste of time but it compounds man. That's such great advice. I was following her for her help. A reporter out for a while. And then i stopped and i just recently thought about doing it again so now you are absolutely giving me the push needed to sign up again. I'm all about habits. It's difficult because you kind of pull this evident and you don't get anything back the agents and as you learn how the system works and you keep doing it. You get you get traction interesting awesome. Well jay this has been such an amazing episode. We covered a lot of ground. I really appreciate your advice but also like how deliberate you were with your with your words. I really liked that. Because i usually just talk until something good comes out and i feel like you really thought about what you were saying so this is a great episode if people wanna learn more where can they find you so my personal website is joyce rodley dot com and my business is ranked defender so that's ranked defender dot com right. I will link to both of those and lots of stuff that we talked about in the show notes over at how i built dot it jay. Thanks so much for joining me today. Thank you for having me. Thanks so much for joining us this week. He has lots of just lots of great advice. i've started using horo help a reporter out because of him and I am still dialing in my pitch. But i think that it's a great resource so reply to one a day or one a week just make a habit of. I think that's really good. Because you do need to establish yourself as an expert and going into twenty twenty one. I will definitely have more information about that now. There are lots of other takeaways here. If you wanna get just a list of takeaways delivered to your inbox you can sign up for the build something weekly newsletter over at how i built dot it slash subscribe. That's how i built it slash subscribe. You'll get lots of information over there for all of the show notes as well as another option for 'em for built something weekly you can head over to how i built it slash one nine four. You'll find everything we talked about as well as our sponsors for this week's episode. Yes please coffee. I themes and hosting our thanks so much to them. The show would not be able to happen without them. And of course it wouldn't be able to happen without you dear listener so thanks so much for listening and until next time. Get out there and build something.
Hasmeet Singh Chandok (Maritime Bhangra Group) - Joyful Activist
"This is the blackout. Podcast woke to the blackout poet. Where i get to talk to amazing people that do amazing things and today excites it at a half hussmann from the maritime wander group. Thank you so much for corner blackout. Podcast thank you so much for having us so he was. I think three or four years ago. I was them as view. I think it was for my halifax experience with finding and It's called my east coast experience now. But i was at this event. He was a nice night and then they're like. Oh introducing you know call you guys you came on. I was like something. I'd never seen before and i was like three years ago in in in our time you've pretty much performed for everyone including i prime minister so let's go. How do we stop for you. Yes i'll take you back in september two thousand thirteen. That's when i came to halifax and and i'll say this there were very few people who look like especially in the in the education world in the universities. So you're always looking at things we could let people know about who we are and we come from and you know and that the do exist and we have an identity. So that's when we started to come up with different ideas and the first one we came up with the to start with the seeks to association and that was the first sikh student association in atlantic canada ever world. so that's that was the first initiative me and my brother who was a co founder and the meta as well took together and We started to do street campaigns. We started give out posters and clarify even talking about religion. We would only talking about identity and the part that we exist in this part of the will do on these are some of the things about us and we all know is considered this as a fifty fifty effort right. you know. it's a two way thing we just land on in halifax and think of People to just do their homework and get to know about us so we took that as an oddball off duty and we started to do the bottom of we thought we should do through the six soon association through different campaigns. And that's when eventually we thought. Oh the dinosaurs getting very good response. Hobo and this took pretty much three years before we could actually get that in our minds and after those three years in july to june two thousand. Sixteen that's when we came up with our first video with our us. Show some closer to your studio. This i was the. I think we've fifty bucks for the whole show and Yeah and then came the disco video and then just took off but again that the whole thing until the first video went viral was about letting people know that we exist and then the whole game after the video went wild yet. Yeah so let's up video one Pig co video War was area behind creating video. Just another going out having fun recreating something. We used to do back home a lot right so just sticking out of the trip for some reason. Do of the guys had the same dress and same color tavern and went on. Shot this and we uploaded this slept and then heavy. Go after to us. You have these media companies from around the world trying to get a bit of that and how do you feel. What do you feed an animal so much more you no. So you guys blew up and then started performing. And it's been like i guess. How do you decide which performance is you are set and we. I don't even tondo any but there are times in when you have done out then down a few people but again we start off. Look out for a mixture off. Eighty twenty at eighty eighty percent of the performances are the ones that you are doing for the people who can't afford to pay you. Just go down and you do it for free and you do it for the people who may not get a chance. Most of the times to go and performance that you would do it for less patient. He would do it for a cancer survivor at times. Doing it for individuals are places where these group of individuals are coming up together at one place are doing it for an organization. Either one of those charities raising money for or a community organization doesn't matter for two provincial or private public but then some of the performances at the ones. We've you're asking for hefty amount of money and doing five minutes show for. Let's say six hundred dollars a minute or something and getting that money and then didn't charity that actually there is a. Oh it's actually bring out 'cause leg we're talking about before voi- how'd you on We're talking about it and also like i mean you do. All these amazing shows must be rolling in dollars. And you're like no no no. We don't even have an account. Yeah here's shayna like dad. There's no bank account. We are not registered. So let's say if you invite us for performance that nia bengals three thousand dollars that money directly goes to the economy the charity and you send us at see the new say you paid and that's how it is so that money or resources in any way is mind blowing. You do this. Then i'm guessing. At why am i think as humans. We all have the duty to give back to the society. And that's that's just wrong. I mean and is a those are combat to like something your upbringing. Or like just's i think we all do that. I mean different ways you could be doing that by bringing out positive stories out of the community and we are doing it through the dance or a bit of money. I think everyone has that in themselves and it just comes out in different ways of forms but i think we learned this while we were going up and back home. I think the community runs in in in a very closed manoeuvrer. You know you have to do things for the community. I mean it's not something you're going get beep you're gonna get stopped on the street and say oh you guys are doing something wonderful like we get paid but you know you're playing you're playing your part that's it and a bit of that comes from the culture grew up and we grew up in a culture. Call there's a concept in our culture called saver cba that you do things selflessly others and don't expect anything in return and try not to announce it to the world which for some reason in our case has been become very evident that we do things it does come on child And then the other thing is the documentary. We'd cbc how did happen just like any other performance this record off. I think last five years we have never asked for any performance. Anything to anybody so an email comes in and says oh. I'm really interested in knowing. Yes you do all these things raising hundreds of thousands of dollars but lie. We just want to know your store. Devi work with indigenous people and for all the work we were doing. A lot of the work doesn't come up on tv channels. We try to do it quietly. We can so our director nance akron. She was really interested in knowing that. So we did we ended up signing the film in two thousand sixteen and it finished last year and now it's being played in sweden. I believe who so. It's the it's going out for international distribution when you press blade sees a butcher. 'cause i can't release remember what he sees. What ford you said you. Complete is like donations to be given us something like it says right At the beginning of the film so when the film is played any money to fill meat is donated reading. We didn't take anything you know growing up in like north america. It's like everything is like to think of the next. You know you have to pay your drench. You have to pay your car. Whatever whatever but Here is people that are doing something everybody loves or everybody feels pool two on it is bringing come but it's like no we don't want any of that we're giving him boxer decides he. Yeah that's a beautiful upbringing actually. So and then. Let's go to the dances themselves. Who cure graphs the dons on. How do you choose the songs play. And all that sell sat with aggregate but initially when we started on was the other co founder. I mentioned kuldeep thing. He was the one who pretty much everything initially. But then later you know when everybody learned now it's pretty much. Everyone in the team is giving giving their. Oh now there is no one character we do all is have a one dollars. How one person who leads the whole dance part but then in terms of character feats everyone who's contributing. Oh that's cool so like How does this that does he started it music or does this style the dance. I'm gonna come back to the music bar. Something very interesting is now the dance. Fondly have is very far into the land where we are doing it right so whenever we are creating home video we have to think of it as what do we create that it really got us to the audience we have. We don't have a lot of salvation audience like those who already know about this so then when we created we created with the sense that it's being created for the people who are from here right or who have spent most most of the lives here so we tried to take music. Either will indulgence and french music either. Music or whatever we feel is going to get to the audience but then we do keep a part of our own culture Which i believe is getting highly influenced by the western style of music especially the hip hop but yeah we still try to keep a piece of that and we then we then report on the other pieces together from culture which is known to the people over here then sort of get create an amalgamation of west and east. Yeah yeah that sounds great. You say you're a little comeback to the music the music but gour as the other guy. He's the one who makes the whole the whole remix for the for the music every year so we create one remix which we sort of used for the performances for year but then we keep on creating a smaller pieces. Every two weeks become would be used a similar formulas. i said create a mix so that we can get to the whole glacier. Oh man is actually brilliant So now i'm finding out your opening bunga pre-match nationwide now. We told our polices are located. So i mean the only other chapter we're trying to establish for now is toronto. But then i think except newfoundland and winnipeg. We have pretty much danced around the country and so when he picks you call yet is it had people calling from newfoundland. But we just couldn't make ya. Yeah yeah so. I mean okay. Does each member of the group kinda have like a day job or something. Yeah everyone does what does yet so And how do you make time for the rehearsals because like even though everybody brings us dang's like when you are performing everybody's doing the same thing so you have to rehearse like you look good weed out. It's a big commitment. Exactly and i really appreciate everybody in the team for them to spend then tend to allows every week. Do look on their dancers. But i i always say this. It's much more than dancing. Like they have to understand the vision of the whole organization. I mean there's no vm. Seeing dancing parties very late bakes a lot of effort. And that's our that's how the whole vision goes through. That's the platform right. But then they get to learn so much more than they have to put in their efforts in terms of learning what the vision is. Why are working with the organization. We did a tour of feed no squishy day before yesterday and it was. it wasn't cd. Viva dr about why we do what we do. And i think that part and learning the policies learning like at at feed no scotia. We were talking about how the food being given and food banks is at times. It's not appropriate for the culture. Somebody's coming from students you know somebody coming from released guessing. You don't think about actually. I didn't even think about those mentioned now. Because you know i mean personally an idea and like i've been kind of long is still lead nine john nigerian food. So yeah yes. I mean these are the type of conversations. We are trying to bring out when we go through the certain organizations. We tried to play our part in letting them know. This is what exists in the community. They may not have seen it or they may not have had resources go to those problems and solve them so we try to become. Let's say a small platform way. We can have these different organizations collaborate with each other. So yes the dance plays a big role. But then there's a lot of stuff happening on the back end And so you get you members or it's like you know each other members of the group now and that's it we open up. I'm okay we open up to everybody every now and then come in and put their efforts if he can danson. I think something more important than dancing as i said is understanding the vision. And if you really want to do what we are trying to do yes you may wanna dance and have fun but then there's going to be lot more to it when you come in and so was the process. I guess i say like Do does the person have to be Indian to okay. You could be from so anyway so me. I wanna use van example as so. I'm like oh cool. I wanna be a member of daytime bond girl who what happens you. Just send us a message on social media disconnect with another group members on their social media or however you can connect with them and then just come in here and we'll try to do a few moves together and from there. We could just get to know where exactly you are on the scale dancing secondment even for myself like i'm not very good at it is no man i look at them like three to i think is no about really moving is about knowing when to do what when ray 'cause like i might nuke i'll do this but then when i'm doing these and everybody's doing that i stand out so it's tricky and takes a lot of effort yet so i mean you said you josie summer. We'd feed nova scotia auto. They do have a plan coming up. I guess a keep working with feeding scotia for a while because when the golden hit adding back in may and it was becoming extreme. That's when we decided we working with blood. Cancer leukemia and lymphoma association of atlantic canada. Before that but then we decided to pause that program and start working with feed knows kushtia. And i still feel. There's so much happening in the logic community which we don't get a chance to even yesterday not home so that's why that's the that was the whole reason. Why visited them like they invited us so we accepted that invitation and we shot the whole thing and we had seen tv. Show the whole whole to which i think are also so that was the reason event there. We wanted to show people yes. You may be said that home. You may have enough resources you need. Maybe not what you used to have before but yet you still have what you need just to go by. But then there are a lot of people who don't and then for a lot of people yes as. I said they could get some food from food bank but something. They used to eat discount. I get access to that in any way. A lot of times noise beautiful warrior doing an especially now with everything happening in the world couvert on all that like we need more of that. All your videos like no one else. I'd you watch it. He brings a smile to your face. 'cause you guys are sold smiling so full of joy it translates to the people watching so we need a lot more of god. I think that's the magic of bunga itself And then the people who are doing it. I mean you should come shoot you. You'd see it as soon as the camera. Danzon and start dancing. There's a smile on their face but when the camera turns off in its the sixteenth take on the same day. We should have a look. It's joyful with camera on times the Sweet so how do you. I guess you know we'd like your day job and all the wrestles and all the meetings do. How do you actually balance your time personally. At times. It does become a lot. But i think when you have those good intentions and you really want to do something for the community and like i said we all are playing a role at times. My role does get stretched Days and days but yeah. I tried to balance it in a way that i do on my personal we call it personal things i would like to do but then i would just supplemented with the staff. I would have to go through with the group then. I think when you spend so much time with the group you do become friends with them. They become your friends and your family. 'cause most of us live on my own way in canada's so you become family with them and then you sort of do whatever you need to do in your personal time and do the group's activities altogether in one. Well so like you have these beautiful blend of you and the group in one So i just want to say it's the group has one and i'm disappointed it. It's the group part of okay. Okay okay so yeah. It's this Bonda you you'll share. I'm going to ask if we can. I is like before we leave you. Just a tiny bit a little bit of dance on the show show. We should do that. Okay colin how clear this stuff and they will. Have your friends come wonderful. Thank you so much for calling output cast. I'm super grateful and again. Thank you for all the beautiful things you do. It's like the world needs now. Thank you thank you people yucca. Man to man to man coming to the event who was born. Yeah duck your back talk. Talk danny de any out. Album remains took king report dumb pipeline. The nfl into Components task a by pundit. Up on i am daniel award. The blackout podcast. Thanks for listening.
Episode 327: Anna Taylor, Senior AD at BBDO Atlanta
"The mrs don't get me started is a conversation about advertising. And here's your host freelance creative director and creative circus department head. Dan balser yes. What come back to another episode of the podcast. It's been a while. The last one of these that i recorded was march. I think march sixth stop has changed since then. There have been a few changes that have happened. And years ago when i started recording these conversations with the intention was always to make them evergreen. There's no real shelf life on them. They kind of hold up over time. But this one is different. This one is a conversation to reflect our time. And i mean thinking about this a lot recently. So is this podcast. This episode of diversion a pallet cleanser from the news of the world. Should it be a foot forward looking at the future. Which i think is sort of always been the point of these conversations to hear from advertising professionals about their careers so we can navigate our own. Is it an inspection of the present time. And i think it's kind of all of these but most mostly it's a conversation that reflects where we are right now a couple of notes and wanna make. Before i introduced the speaker. I did mention on this conversation. Hershey's commercial the name of that spot is my dad and it was produced by arnold and harass and. I'm sorry that when when we recorded this did not remember the agency. Of course it was arnold and harass also. I wanted to mention that. There are pictures of all the guests i publish. I take a picture of every guest and i publish it. When published the podcast. Those are all available on ball servile dot com which is the homepage for the podcast. Where you can also stream the show directly to your device have to say. I really enjoyed this conversation with anna. Appreciate robin fitzgerald for suggesting on an really enjoyed our conversation. When we finished this recorded section of this we actually stayed on the phone and talked for a good solid hour and fifteen minutes afterwards. You will hear her energy. It's infectious and wonderful. Ana graduated from scattered with a dual degree in graphic design video studies. She was designed supervisor at ups for almost four years where she worked on the brand's interactive work including web design and online advertising. She has been a digital marketing manager. At cnn digital art director at astral brands an ecommerce our director at carter's and for the last seven and a half years she has been a mainstay. Bbdo atlanta there. She helps to bring the agency's content creation vision to life creating everything from point of sale worked for the georgia lottery to digital campaigns for. At and t. to trade show exhibits for bear. She's also worked on embassy suites. Rei voyeur and zoo atlanta. Now here it is the first conversation since the pandemic began since our country began to wake up from its sleepy complacency. I hope you enjoy first off. Thank you very much for taking time out of your day. I know that even given the situation you guys are probably pretty busy right we are. We are like we've been every since the pandemic hit honestly we've been pretty busy as we have clients. That had actually ramped up some earned this so it's it's yeah it's been a kind of nonstop thing it's good and bad. I guess so this a lot to talk about today I haven't had a conversation with professional in three months. And i really appreciate your being the first post sea change to be on this in fact right before we started talking i sat here. I jotted down. How do i referred this things you know how to refer to them. I know how to talk about kovic. So there's a pre covid and there's a pandemic how do you talk about the other events star. Wrote them down. is this mentioned. The recent events. As george floyd cultural upheaval. The protests national convulsions. Change our evolution. The cultural evolution. I don't call it. A cultural revolution quality cultural evolution. Doing call it our collective awakening. Do we call it the necessary. So i'm trying to figure out how to refer to that period of where history will history will tell what this period of time is called. But i think you. And i ought to make this our job as a creative team to name it. Right here on the podcast. We'll figure that out before the end of it. Now i will say i certainly light some better than others So george floyd. I feel like you wanna give him his moment and then also can transition into that bigger because that's literally what happened right like. It was a moment that his life ended. And then you had a chain reaction I liked the word protest versus riot which we've had some discussions about that at our company just because it plays into this larger picture about media in howard telling black stories in stories in general around black people about it not always being something. That's negative or violent or concentrating on that part of it. It's a very it's very diminishing phrase it is it is it diminishes the the action the intent and the and the people involved by calling it. Riots i called the protests. I i like. I like the cultural evolution or the cultural people but we'll see where it lands Because i think this is a this is a catalyst for a bigger conversation than that will resonate. I think hopefully permanently through generations. But let's talk about you and your career your work and everything i will. These things will be their way when it was just covid when we had two months before the change going to work these in. How did you personally deal with 'isolation how of the office run. However you working I'm saying that. Because i know that i've i've had a lot of students struggling with even even before this had a collaborate how to work. And how are you guys working. And how are you handling the new reality of the kovic situation. So i think it's always been pretty good for me. It was a little more difficult in the very beginning. Just because school was out. And i have a six year old so Even my husband was home as well which was a big help. We were having to work in. Like how do we do school. And then how does mom have worked time and do conference calls and You know by hopefully not have been come in during certain conference calls What we found is that like as agency multiple people naturally have children. Some don't so there were as long as it was agency costs with us. There were quite a few people who did have their Their kids running in yelling or talking in it the new nor which. I'm very grateful for that. No one whether it was our. Ceo cds no one was like a your child of so that was a huge help but it was a little difficult making that transition from having worked time set work time and then trying to do his schoolwork and all that stuff but i think as agency it was actually easier to a certain degree because with microsoft teams we were able to have meetings and i was able to share my screen immediately. I'm the type of person where i don't get nervous or i'm not offended if someone is like quarterbacking behind me like hey. Why don't we change this like if it gets over the finish line no. I can't stand that. I'm good good for you. But what about what about mentally. What about when it comes to like if you're working on a new brief in your in your apartment or your house or is it you know. There's certain sort of visual triggers. That like kind of help. You like sort of getting that create. His own was at harder for you to adjust to being in the house working on new collaborating working on new ideas or was that the didn't get in your way at all. Your senior level person is probably. This is not a problem for you. didn't it didn't get in my way Again it was just a time thing. I worked better at night So when it's quiet we ought to be young like the best thoughts ideas usually start coming around two. Am still for me in. So that was. That was cool. But i think also So like i have a really good and because we already had like a good relationship or partnership pre covid it translated well postcode basic. Yeah that makes that makes sense. That makes sense so i do want to talk a little bit about the elephant in the room and the thing. That's happening that. We can't escape. I want and i'm gonna ask you questions. And i want the listeners. To to be aware that. I know that probably will asked you questions. And i know that i probably will make some missteps and i know that i will probably sound stupid at times. But there's certain things that. I just wanna understand the mindset when you're approaching things and we all carry our own hangups in our own identity issues we have issues with How we look where we come from. All those kind of things are you and have you throughout your career been acutely aware when you walk into a room that you're black. Do carry that with you in in meetings do you do. Are you sensitive to feedback through that filter. Talk a little bit about what it's like to be a black person working in what has historically been a very white industry so to answer the first question. Yes i'm always aware that i am The black person in the room. oftentimes. I'm the only one and i think it's it's not Something one inescapable. I look different than everyone else. That's in this room But i think that a couple of things that i've always tried to do is is in at bank sometimes. It's not fair to have to do it. But it's a reality which is to make people comfortable around you So that goes to Certainly pre covid. It might be actually shaking. Someone's hand or there's something that happens with physical contacts in disarming people who don't look like you So sometimes it's carried out in that way other times. It might just be cracking a joke. I never crack is used to have a a cd who was not black but was not A white either and he would sometimes crack jokes that were demeaning to people who like him and self deprecating the trust. Yeah i've found that. That's certainly not route that i take. I don't think that that's necessary. But i do think that you typically when you are the only one in the room You almost carry this thing on you this burden to a certain degree of like having other people comfortable with you It seems i had the word queued up. I was gonna ask you if he felt the burden of it and While and sometimes it's heavier than others But that all depends on who in the room with you and if you have which we're seeing right now you have genuine allies in the room. It makes a difference right because they They shoulder some of that burden with you like they take on as like hey us. I'm comfortable with this person. You should be comfortable with this purpose. In as wow the only analogy to that would be. There's been moments in class or any social situation when someone says something that's clearly sexist and let's say maybe there's only one or two women and the guy says the sexist thing or another guy will look at the woman to see if she's offended psyche know what she's not the only one capable of being offended by that comment and i will almost always step up and say come on mike and maybe she's not comfortable defending that maybe she's not comfortable speaking up and maybe not. Everybody feels like they're willing to take that burden walk into room is the only person who's quote unquote different. So you know. It's funny. Because i had heard about you from more than one person but you see on that ana is is a is a leader beyond her years and outspoken. And i think that. I would almost ask you just as a crave director if i'm talking to you as a creative director and a senior person. What advice would you give to young creative. Who's not comfortable shouldering. that burden. Not comfortable feeling like they want to. They reset that they need to shake people's hands. They resent that they need to be Take the position of disarming. The fucking white people starting. Sorry that that's their job to do that. Like what would you tell that person. So i think the first thing i always tell young black creatives Is that one be unequivocally and unapologetically you so whether that is rocking your nastro hair ore. That is i wear my dashiki to work like added. You have absolutely no problem with that like i think. That's the first thing. I think is super important in created in creative atmosphere. Because a part of you you're not doing your best work while the term the term for that as masking. And i think something like eighty eighty percent sixty to eighty percent of of black people in corporate america mask. They conform and they hide their identity. It's very very common with. Lgbtq and many minorities and it's something we all need to work towards eliminating especially the nail on the head in a situation where you're being hired for who you are and what you are right. That's your role. There is to bring your voice not to master voice or conformed to another voice. Plus it stifling to your own personal Process it is and i feel like for a lot of black creatives. You want to get your foot in the door. Naturally and i tell people though it's okay to leave like if you feel your say for instance in a place where you have to mask constantly. It's okay it's okay to move on to someplace else where that is not going to always be the case I would also say to young black creatives says that that that burden that you may feel is unfortunate reality when we're stepping into spaces that are predominantly white But it doesn't have to be something that's exhausting for you in it. It shouldn't be it's a reality in. it's a reality. that truthfully i feel like for most black people. We don't have to tell each other that we are in no by. We were the bbdo new york piece. The top is one of my favorite pieces. ever Just because we we already had those conversations like when we're young. Our parents are telling us different. You know you're different. These are the realities that you're going to have to deal with now where we are in a moment of time. Right now is that is time to shift those realities and it's always been a reality for us but now it's different because it's a reality for you by white people are starting to be like. Hey that's the reality. You guys always had holed up. That's not cool in now. Those conversations are shifting so that burden that i mentioned before is not just shouldered by just me and other young black creatives. It's shoulder by other white. People were staying cool go. Here's here's the thing that I've ever talked about this. I think is truly important. I think that the other side of the coin is is that we the population of people who have benefited from white privilege need. It gives some very heavy thought to what that means what you've been given what you don't have to acknowledge what you don't have to do and the white pooh doesn't mean that you're threatened by this but rather that you have a role in this the way you perceive things so i don't have to have gone through what you went through. I went through what i went through. What i went through was never having to face it. So i was robbed empathy. I was robbed of reality and a lot of ways. So i think that the white people need to understand how they fit in that process to best sort of meet halfway. I don't. I don't know if that's what i'm saying makes sense but i think that it's it's not a matter of necessarily feeling sympathy. It's a matter of empathizing based on where you're coming from. And i like one thing. I've told to like a lot of my a white coworkers. Friends etc is that one I think especially right after George floyd death and we started to see the protests that a lot of my white friends and colleagues didn't know what to say so they didn't say anything And once we all got on a call and really start to talk about this thing in. It was like okay. It's okay to not know what to say. It's okay the thing is to not sit in any place of guilt and had that immobilize you where you're not progressing the overall society so like you see what's happening you feel bad that's great Then it's like what can you do to help in. I think that there are some concrete steps for sure. The white privilege edgy. Speak of i think is one certainly something to examine. But it's almost. I want people to kind of look at those microaggressions that aren't necessarily under this category of Racist or They're not overt. And sometimes when we think a white privileged we might be thinking of the more of vote overt things that we would put under white privilege defined white privileges. That i don't ever have to concern myself when i am a red light. A cop pulls up next to me. It does not cross my mind right. That white privilege is having to never think about that. The white privilege is having the never had a talk with my fifteen year old son about how to talk to police officer. I've never had never had to. That's that's what i heard. White privilege is a lack of of similar. Experience is not something plus. It's just a lack of that part of it. I don't know that makes sense great. What's so what have you told young donovan about current events so it's been a combination of one you know. Naturally my husband. And i are watching the news so his question was around Like what's happening wire all out with signs And we ourselves have been out With signs so. I think the first thing we do is he's very aware that he's a little brown boy and always surrounded him with literature and etc that celebrates that brownies And so what we told him is again. He said excuse so it was more around. Someone is no longer here anymore. Because he's brown then his question becomes. It's very it's interesting in. It's difficult at the same time because he's at this age still where he thinks police. Just go after the bad people right. So if you're taught you know naturally when we're young we're initially taught like hey. Police only go after blow bad people. So then that's initially. You know what you're taught in school And then but that other layer for a little black children that no. Please don't always go. After bad people they go after people who are brown because their own issues And so does the conversation we kinda had to have for with him for the first time of like police in others hurt brown people because of racism. We have to use the word racism end. That is a behavior. Where because you are different because you look different because you are brown that you are devalued. Devalued isn't the word we use word. Is that people. Think less about your life. The so profoundly upsetting. Because when i was his age up until probably you know teen years i grew up being educated as a jewish person to learn about the holocaust. And you learned that people were gassed. Six million people were gassed to death or worse because they produce jewish which is to me relatively as our says arbitrary is race that was always edge. Were always educated to believe that that was from acute isolated evil from the nazi germany and that The people of my grandparents generation. That will never trust her with german accent. But it was isolated. There it must be so much more unsettling to say these police officers in your community and you can't identify polices evil. You can identify fellow americans as evil. It was so convenient for us. Jews to say i was the nazis that were evil that something. There was a psychosis or it was a mental illness. or something. That hitler how something you could write it off. It wasn't permanent is permanent. Actually still happening now with the current administration. Incidences of incidents of eta. Semitism are on the rise. Like never been right. But it's almost easy because these are these aren't. The uniformed officers were entrusted to take care of us matron that and it just made me more sad fucking side because it does just bring to life. The difficulty of its is difficulty. But it's also anger to be honest. Dan like Sometimes i get angry that one i have to explain this to my child In to that my child has to go through it In that you can never Like as much as you try to prepare we. You know we've been doing this like hey do this do this do this. And hopefully the police will let you come back home to me and then you realize at that means absolutely nothing in callisto. Might not come on. We can switch gears shorten. It's kind of related. I guess so. I looked at your work. I looked at your work. the The gracie the fight against sex trafficking pieces amazing so that piece won a gold. Ken lion Won an award. America american advertising awards One show dna piece and the georgia lottery work make social statements and seems like you're doing a lot more than selling potato chips or lottery tickets and the hope scholarship spots really resonated with me. The the ability to affect change was the subject of of the subject of the spot and it was all about having a platform talking about. We talked about that with students. We talked about the fact that when you graduate you're going to go off. You're going to have a platform. Is that real. Do you feel that you have the ability to affect change in your role as a art director. Bbdo and do you approach a lot of your briefs with that responsibility as a professional. I think definitely. I had that innate sense and have always had that idea that somehow someway. I gotta be able to change the world in his sounds sometimes. It does sound lofty. But i do you. I think just inherently look for those opportunities. When i do a brief but i think that the first thing when i get a brief is just how. How do i articulate. Or how do i re work reimagined. What in no. They're trying to express in this beautiful digestible Way and i think it's kind of the same way with how you use your platform in some kind of way. Like how do i get this message across in the you know most dynamic way that possibly can and i do feel that typically with any project there's a place for that especially now not just in the wake of cultural was cultural awakening about that that that even before that you had so many brands that are making that shift right like especially so before. Let's say maybe ten years ago brands were saying like hey just buy my product. But we've had this huge shift where it's okay for brands like it's not even just a k. Like it's expected now of brands to say this is my stance on social issues. So i feel like now we are given as creatives were given this this greater license. Cool a platform us. That's cool and it's not always huge social issues. I mean is this. Just your work has some like really sweet humanity and that's a spot for lays that just has such a human moment in it with dad and the daughter in the car that spot by the way has five words in it. He's copywriters right really. It was really sweet. Reminded me a little bit of that. Great hershey's commercial. I don't know if you saw it. I don't even know what agency did it where the guy can be with his daughter. Who said she wants to make some more as or something and he keeps saying is a meeting so then he makes a cardboard cut out in front of a meeting and then goes with her in the kitchen and makes moore's with her. It's really sweet. He doesn't make it. I got it wrong. She went and built it. She went through it. Shows record the hardware store shows her at print place where she blew up a big picture of him and she put together. This like flatman. It could give it to him so that he would be with her. It's really sweet. Really really sweet favorite spots. It's one of my light like you say five words. I know by word that it. It's it's a beautiful moment and it's also like one of those great processes that finding that person finding those those right people who can have those facial She amazing listeners. There's a link on the facebook page to diana's website. You can see all that stuff on his website. So i want to ask a little bit about the a lot of stuff for those sort of short. They were like three to four minute films. I think for for for lot for georgia lottery. Is that stuff advertising branded content. where do they exist. How did they live. Good question sale. It was it was billed as branded content basically branded content for georgia lottery. And it's it's such an interesting story because georgia lottery. you know. all the spots are usually funny. they're all funny spots So was the first time we were able to say like hey the hope. Scholarship which like to your previous question maybe. Sometimes i'm searching for the boot lofty changed the world stuff too much of but maybe not. That's just my personality But for those spots they were billed. As like i said branded content in particular around the hope scholarship which just kind of made sense right light. You're talking about the hope. Scholarship in how many lives. It's changed but not only the lives that it changed but like it's exponential because those people then go on and do xyz things you know and then of course a lot of them do is still here in georgia. So that's why you play in lottery right like that's how the lottery was sold to us. Right exactly educate georgians. And that's what it did and so like. Yeah those little documentaries were Three minute pieces and we sold them as like. Hey this is a way to tell that story. That's not a thirty second spot but can be trimmed down at some point if you want to feel. Good luck with that good luck. That's like that's like the puzzle that no one ever tells you about school down. Make this into a fifteen could see. You could see spots. It's like i'm so. I'm so saturated with advertising brain that like you can watch commercials on tv and say oh that would have worked better if they hadn't had to cut it because he's a lot of times i'll i watch sports so i'll see like the original sixty second spot and then like a few weeks later i'll see a cut down on my cut out the best joke. They could have the best well. No i've never told his store in the podcast. So i was i. I have a friend who worked at. Snl so. I was an extra on saturday night. Live but i live in new york which is really fun but i also got to go to a live show and i got to go to rehearsal show. This has nothing to do with what we're talking about or advertising so a rehearsal show. It was way. This'll date me because this is back when we were in new york was still during Is right after the o. J. simpson trial. So they're opening sketch. The opening sketch was a trial Oj simpson frothy tim. Meadows was the actor playing an attorney and they call the first sketch the cold open. So it's like the very first thing you see and then there's i joke that goes straight to live from new york saturday night live. Is saturday night so in the rehearsal. The last joke of that sketch was hilarious. It was super funny and he nailed it. The crowd went crazy and it was live from new york saturday on the live show. He botched the punchline like he told it backwards. Yeah and nobody knew everybody. In the country was that was dumb. That was a stupid joke. Like sometimes you know too much but like no one else. I think the ultimate less than and that is cussing people some slack in charge of the best. They can so which is my answer to the next question. I have two final questions not the last okay fine. I'll do it in this order my next question knowing what you know now. If you could go back in time to the day you started your career and your resume in front of me like a canadian but where where was your first job as art director designer. It was so it was. I think the first part of my career was certainly more design heavy and ups there okay so graduated from scott and going to ups What would you whisper in young on his ear. I would say that So we kind of talked about this earlier. I didn't know there early on. Like i would say for the first five years for sure of my career. I was so focused on making sure that i was professional. And that they're not mutually exclusive that you didn't know that no not that Thought that you know like we're talking about and stuff. Which is you know for black women. There are the spectrum of how we deal with our hair. And when i was younger for sure it was always straight because typically that is easy It's more accepted is typically more accepted by white people honestly and i feel like my overall demeanor was more subdued and not that. I'm very loud person or anything like that. But just i was. I was quietly moving about working hard making sure not to ruffle any feathers or anything like that and Fillet i would tell younger me like girl do you. So don't feel like you have two quite yourself to make other people comfortable like you can still be you and people be comfortable with the you that they're seeing cropping into the camera for that. That's awesome as i think. Part of that is being young. And it's good universal advice and then the other question my final question which typically asked earlier but i typed in the wrong order is what personal trait of yours. What do you think. It is about on a taylor. What is it about you. that's been sort of your most valuable trait. Passion has just giving shit. Yeah like passion about the world changing ideas but also passionate about. I've been passionate about a deck. Before like i feel like everyone around me feels that passion that desire to really make even if i'm just making information Beautiful in Like enticing that. I'm passionate about that. Like i really give a damn about that as much as i give a damn about stopping sex trafficking. That's that's what makes it. That's what makes it. Great professional art director copywriter. Like you care about those little things. That's really cool. That's really cool as a difference. I think that's awesome. Thank you so much for talking with me. Thank you for having me answered you know. What would you know what the beauty this is. We'll never know we'll never know. Oh my god of what we now. You're you're awesome so listeners. 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Ted Lasso SPOILERCAST The Adam Savage Project 11/3/20
"Welcome to the adam savage project. I'm adam i'm norm-. I'm joey joey. Welcome back or in a row. We do this. This was it was one of those things where yes last last week. We i think we attempted to spoiler cat are and and the good intention because we wanted to dissect that scene in alien and ended up being a wide ranging discussion about the movies that we find comforting. The shows run comforting. But i don't think any of us at that point. The the three of us did not realize that independently. We had all been watching the tv show. Ted lasso on apple. Tv and and this is a show. That's been sort of pecking at my consciousness for a couple of months. I was on the road trip. Kristen texted me and said dude. Ted lasso it will make you feel better about the world and then our friend dr wave. We were chatting last week and he was like. Hey by the way apple. Tv has this amazing show. You should watch it. It'll make you feel better about life. He literally said the same sentence. It will make you feel better about life and my wife and i turned it on last week on friday. Yeah on friday night at seven pm and we watched all ten episode at evening in a row. And that's what. I discovered that you had also watched it and loved it but you had a very different. You tell me about your viewing experience this. So i think it's same thing whereas a slow creep where i saw the word building in especially on twitter. People saying this is show that people should watch and like. There's so much to watch right there. Like i i i can name five different great shows that are on streaming right now on five different services and apple. Tv is of one that for me. It's like it's not the one i default to to be honest still are still on probation. Applebee's still proving itself and comedy. Sounds like okay calm. I can binge any time. James davidson working. We're gonna talk about the spoiler free to start a but it it really is that i sleep where you once you get through the first episode like this feels it's not your parks and rec your office style. The style of half hour comedy. That we've seen it felt a little bit more like a like an. Hbo show to be eyebrow between like a sitcom and a one camera drama. Kind of if. I may like sportsnight. There is an and specifically its of moving drama. With hilarious comedy also feels like a very spiritual successor to sportsnight. Yeah i don't think the show does itself any favors with the advertising because the conceit of it which is all out there. Is that an american football coach. College football coach played by jason. Today kiss is imported over. Goes the uk. And then coaches a premier league premier league. Football football team A club football club. I'm getting all the terminals wrong because of the show because we don't in the states we don't follow soccer. we don't follow football. We down so like the fish out of water story is something that was the only hook that people could get right. What does it feel like for a stupid american to be in the uk out of water. Coaching a sport. He has no experience in which doesn't sound great on paper. It was like. I don't wanna see that will be a few times during the show in which characters in the show make fun of ted lasso and the way they make fun of ted lasts. Who is kind of the marketing campaign of the show outplayed last two. I'm here to mix it up. You know that fish out of water is the least interesting aspect of the show. it turns out but it's a hard show to market. You could imagine like how are you going to say. Watch this show. It'll make you feel better about the world. And i'm also after the fact now glad that they did not kinda give that away giveaway that you discovered it and i think three as we watch it waiting for the other shoe to drop in terms of like expecting expecting a traditional villain expecting cynicism expecting turn i want to get into that when we get to the spoiler aspect because of how many ways it subverts dominant narrative paradise but norm. You didn't binge. It like i did you safer. Yeah yeah one of the things that someone recommended and anything else. They tweeted Like i only have two episodes. Ted so left. And i. I'm i'm i'm afraid when it's all over made me want to watch only one episode of night and so we did one episode of night for a week and a half and it was nice. That is a lot of rate half hour. Yeah so joey. When did you find out about it. And how did you guys were It was right before our nashville trip. I think i was talking to know a little bit about it. Because i'm trying to figure it out myself. We watched like two episodes. And i don't think the show like totally hooks you in the first to at least for us like we watched it and i totally agree. I could see something here. And i was trying to like my mind around like what what it was about it that we we really kind of latched onto but then when we got back we just we went through. I think it just two nights. We just did too big chunks and got through it all and endorse that. There was a little bit of sadness at the end of now. I think there is a lot of a lot of great television on but like the thing. I'm always struggling for is. I'm always looking for that. Half hour light hearted thing to watch the comedy like. I really burned out on hour long. Dramas and everything on television is our belongings heavy and i always look for something that just kinda makes you feel good. Can half hour get through it and more like the hour long shows. I find a lot of. There's been a lot of shows which are just fine to watch and just great narrative except that like maybe twenty percent of the season feels like a bunch of bottle episodes that i don't mean for the plot and i get exhausted at the grind of like and i look it's great that directors are getting money and time to like. Hey let's drag the scene out for ten minutes that's gotta be amazing for a director but like for us. Sometimes it can be tiring so you kind of want something that moves along a little bit more of a clip mostly clear. Yeah totally netflix. On that model once they want you to start much. Eighty eighty percent plus of a of the season in one. Go but this isn't the type of show to watch day by day or week by week because there's a water cooler moment because there's plot points to digest this is purely. It's like a pie delicious cake. Good where. I'm savoring a slice and like trying to eat smaller slices of it as i get closer to the end so there will still be some left. So let me tell you. I've now three quarters of the way through it again. We watched two episodes the other night. I skipped episode one. I just i didn't feel like i needed it We watch two three four and five. Yeah i think we're now on episode six So before we get to the and by the way watching it again totally great like nothing about it feels slower grind. The it's like we're starting to and when we get spoilers. I'm looking forward to talking. Unpacking some of the really amazing interpersonal dynamics. They've written in. But i'm curious because i had a very specific reaction to it. Did either of you guys had. We be watching any of the episodes at the end of every episode. It was definitely not a sad syria. It's joy curiae joy of people caring about each other and just being openly loving. It's mind-blowing. Yeah it's the same feeling. I got watching. Sorry to say like a political ad of like joe biden hugging. Like someone's mother like that same type of goodness. It's the exact same feeling and there was it was it was less. I mean it was. It was definitely like. I need a ted lasso in my life but also moments just like i need to be more like ted laso to others in my life like there was feeling like i want to be the the person who tells you to not be defined by your you know your your native aspects head might be one of the more emotionally centered healthy people. I've seen on television at these remarkable character because he's not without any flaws by any stretch of the imagination but he is so okay with himself that it's kind of mind blowing. Yeah and it's the same feeling. It felt you know even on this podcast a couple of weeks. So we're dave goals on and one of the things he said that's really stuck with me as he talked about way back working with jim henson in the that company and how people would complement each other. When the other person wasn't there as opposed to tiny shit about each other they would give compliments about their co workers and their trouble puppeteers. And that's not something. I mean started to say it's not something we see a lot of. Spoilers wanna talk about a little bit of structure here. Because i think it's really interesting so i think people listening haven't watched the show or kind of wondering. Well it okay Kansas coach comes to coach a sport. He's never sport. How is that not a fish out of water story and the thing that i found really beautiful about it was how little the show is about soccer. I still know nothing about soccer. I know as much about soccer as i know about cricket right but at the same time it makes you love soccer right you you fall in love with the thing but it's really about what a coach does right. It's about the the clay of a group of sportsmen and what the coach can do with that clay and how that is a transferable skill and coach never doubts that it's very likely a transferable skill even though everyone else in the show including us does and that's a that's one of my favorite plots is when someone's skill set in one area becomes highly applicable to the main conflict of the thing. We're watching but not a corner you way done with you. Don't pure comedy and and there's the suspension of disbelief that they have you Buy into you know. There was an assistant coach. Who is very competent. That clearly you know if you follow the american football coaching staff. It's all about systems coach and the coaching team. And so that is to the right hand that knows all while the coach can concentrate on the the more important like big pictures of that is that is a movie trope trope trope right like that's a day so show we'll get into some spoilers fixture cake analogy. I think the show is more like a a box of homemade biscuits forward into the spoilers. Also wait i want us to. This is one thing we can say before the spoilers watching the show through a second time i'm starting to notice because now i'm looking for plot beats beats that are being telegraphed by the actors performance By the directing and stuff and what. I'm seeing what we're both. Were watching last night. My wife and i is. This show hangs beautifully. On jason suiting sece's incredible performance which at first blush is kind of g. Wilga on ted from kansas and yet is much more subtle and deep than that and he is actually Far from your first impression not afraid of confrontation and does all these really interesting things with his face to help you see what's going on with him at the same time as he's not really revealing that's the people around him and it's is just like this is a perfect role for him. I can say that if everyone where on the surface level they are all caricatures yet each of the the the the archetype of captain of the cocky player The girlfriend of the boss like they are all surface level. Caricatures they lean into those roles but then very quickly beneath the surface. There are real people with real empathy and and not clear villains. I was thinking about that from like a just a production standpoint because almost immediately half our shows it takes a little a season or two to like get everybody to make the same show that makes everyone on page like where the world of these characters living in that show almost immediately like as easy as it is for every single one of them to play it too. Big to play a character characterized. Everybody feels like they're on the same exact show in a realistic mature version of their of their character. And like i wonder how much of that is show. How much of that is. The jason sued aac is coming in setting a tone for his character. Like how would it also that the directing is highly a modulated right like a lot of actors. Go super big for certain stuff and are asked to do that. And i have a feeling that the writers actually looked at all those caricatures and know when you said characteristics says i think that's totally on purpose but they also thought what are all the plot points you expect from these characters and then they did the opposite of all of those versing were by the end you can grow as a person grew grew as a person. There's an there's also a psycho educated aspect to the show in which characters talk openly in a psychologically sophisticated way that i think is is pretty remarkable. Yeah okay. Those are all the things spoiler. Yes it's an apple tv plus if you haven't seen it so we're going to talk about spoilers episode by episode but we'll talk about characters and favorite moments. I think let's start with characters. Okay so we'll talk about. Ted lonzo himself a bunch and he's on the team were my favorite characters. Is the team captain. He's a he's. The veteran player is better at varies a veteran champion right. Yes late in the you know. He's one of the best like he's you know. At one point. Everyone had posters of him in their room. He's like that kind of legend. That's right and he's clearly at the end of his career and he's himself from everything he's above it all but i love. There's there's an episode where he's with his niece and he's reading a book and his own wrinkle in time and the heart ask the each. The smooth transition from heart asked to loving. Uncle is so funny. It's not quite loving uncle because he's reading her madeleine language and he finishes this part of the leadership but he realizes it's about him seven year old niece. She goes funny moment. I thought to have a special permit to have a seven year old onset. Just yell whole bunch of times. You're totally right is a wonderful name again. I'm roy kent roy Roy is like he is the americans platonic like perception of what the kind of like fighting realm the world british soccer player is right like he's just like he's always looking out from under the hood of his is is like a raptor he's got this stance that is always kind of for a little bit like he's just like ready to throw a punch But he turns out to be. He's the captain of the team and he turns out to be ted lawsuits lynch pin. And the first moment that made me cry in the show is tetanus is coach beard. His right hand show up their learning about the team and ted finally starts winding up roy. Ken and coach beard. Says why are you winding him up. And he says the first domino of this team has to fall inside. That man's heart if we're gonna make it impact the first domino on the team's gotta fall right inside that man's heart and like i paused turned to my wife and i was like one of the loveliest things i've ever seen. I think he's one of the first to actually. He's the most of the kind of a slow burn into becoming a good dude. Like you see him step for his. His teammates who are being bullied can have been. The voice of ted lasts even though he doesn't want to knowing that it's the right thing to do and you're gonna help him move his team in the right direction. Yeah he's he's a pretty amazing character and character. Kelly man keely keely and rebecca thought. Both tastic was amazing. Female characters so the the the the basic plot is struggle between the hip new young rockstar. Jamie tart who can like everything he kicks goes into the goal and and roy Roy fox so the team has divided at ten has to figure out a way to do this. And a jamie tart was just a total deck. He's a terrible person he's racist. He's classes shipard but his girlfriend keeley might be one of the most psychologically advanced humans on the show she shows up at first and you think oh she's like hot and she's like being super flirty with everyone. This is going to be a problematic character. it's just gonna be. Oh this is going to be go in a certain way and then totally doesn't go in that way. Keely is amazing. Keely keely considers herself the equal of anyone. She meets and she totally is and there's a level of confidence to her. That's remarkable. there's a lot of like there's a lot if feels to me like her and kind of cut from the same cloth just they operate differently. You early right about that. They both kind of. They're both looking at these people. And there's there's that line early on where he says. I can't remember the first couple of episodes talking to. I think sam and he's just like the goldfish analogy which comes back into the last episode. But he's like goldfish like ten seconds of memory. Just like keep moving and there is bit of like don't let you know. Don't let your damn these things define and become make you a sad or bad person like very much that optimistic view that she has and as soon as you see kelly who's a beautiful young woman rebecca who's a beautiful older woman you'd saying. Well now they're gonna. We're going to see a lot of drama. The plays up conflict between these two women and their classically defined office roles. And this is and it's not that at all key like ted. Joey always enjoy seeing the best in people and enjoys encouraging. The best out of people like everything she does in the show is always about like. Oh i see exactly what you're like and you're awesome. And maybe i can help you make this a little bit better and always encouraging people. She's just a pure delightful human and meets resistance in the same way meets resistance like her relationship with rebecca euro. Beca has the let down her guard to let keely in but she's just like their first conversations there she's blunt right and the bluntness is far. That comedy comes from and very self aware right about all of this country hates me because it's country. Loves rhymes i. I'm so gonna rhyming. I'm durable and i can rhyme. It's yeah there's a great conversation between rebecca and keely when they're chatting about fame and the press because keely is moderately famous for being almost famous a type of character. You said later on in the series she shows up on everyone's hotel. Tv introducing them all deliverable thousand great. That's exactly how that would go. But she and rebecca are chatting and rebecca says. Oh the press there's such vultures you know they probably take a shot of you. Sunbathing on code in my orca and keely goes so weirdly pacific example. Oh my god. There's a shot of you naked on a boat and my york. You wouldn't have told me unless you want to see it come on. Let's see it. And rebecca immediately turns around laptop and chosen to kaley. Looks into her soul identifies the whole thing and they that second and it's beautiful. Yeah and then later on you know you waiting for the shooter. Trump is the hawks were they. They go to liverpool. And there's a the old friend sassy right. Rebecca friend so introducing an older friend dynamic. And i'm waiting for the conflict waiting for the old friend of the new friend to be at odds with each other and never ever comes like the all bond you know. It's it's like i can't remember if it was the parks and rec or office writer's room. They had a list of plots they were never going to do and they were all like every plot you've ever seen from the flintstones to the honeymooners two friends right. All is like so many laws something that they were just never going to make lots sadly sinks and i really felt like the writers room on ted lasso also had steer all the paradise. Were never gonna go near here. Are all the types of conflict that everyone would find blow hanging meat on and we're not going to go there right. Yeah joey favorite character. That's a tough one or just the character. You wanna talk about your come back to me. He okay he begins the assistant. He's the most pure comic relief i think. Probably the show. He's a rebecca rebecca's. Assist odi. The one that i say oh like a combination of what's his name from office space space milton from office space told me they're blaming either the big boss from newsradio. Yes yes you may change from newsradio space combined with stephen colbert is how i imagined him. Nice but he's i love him because he starts off as a character and he has these widely offbeat comedic moments. You know when cassim goes to his house of the end he grows is like his bass playing beard or whatever it is he plays the instrument but as yeah but when they form that the a diamond dogs a diamond dogs. Yes yeah yeah. There's this early on in the show you get to witness. This beautiful dynamic between lasso and coach beer and coach beard is a man of almost no words right he nods. There's like you know. I like ice stuff very rarely says things and you get to witness. Actually as the show progresses you get to witness more conversations between lasso and beard and you always feel privileged to hear beard. Say anything but there is a the way that those to talk becomes expanded when they realized that higgins and may are also both really psycho educated and they formed this little qadri called the diamond dogs. And they're they're solving emotional problems. Which is i swear to god. When roy can goes to them with his issues with keely and they like unpack it. That is one of the again. I'm gonna use this phrase. This is one of the more psycho educated sequences. i've ever seen in television and roy. Ken is like on gun. Control my emotions and we'll by all means you should let them control you in doing away. Where you as the viewer you've subconsciously. Empathize in can relate to everything these characters who thorough but because they can right at the pace you know and have these characters there unpacking it faster than your coating it and that's very satisfying to watch very by that by that episode that you're you know them you know their life you know what shape them and and it's yeah it is to watch them figure that out and in that one of the most immediate transformations is of nate. Who is effectively. The waterboy kit kit boy and they ask his name when they first arrive in episode one and he says why do you want to know my name. No one ever asks my name and then he pauses intense. Like i'm ready whenever you wanna tell me. And then there's this great scene in which they're trying to work out some place new place for the team and nate clears throat and ted. Lhasa says you got an idea. Nate says no. No i don't i might. I might have an idea but i don and head goes. I'm sorry i'm very hard of hearing when people don't believe in themselves. Do you think that this idea will work and nate. Says yes i do and at that moment ten am beard blow back. And they're like whoa. Why are you yelling and you can see that. It's a performance that they know to do. At that moment. The ten is a guy who pushes on people until they reveal what they're confident about and then he he grows and adds water and sunlight to that to that confidence. Right right why why. They were successful in their fictional history of being football coaches in america. Exactly and this is one of the things. I found most amazing about the writing is. That's a huge amount of exposition with a single action than in. Lhasa would both have the same over theatrical reaction which means they've done this before and this is territory they know that's a huge amount of writing into a passed without saying well. Do you remember cincinnati and all that kind of dumb exposition that a lot of lesser writers would have duh easily. Go ahead yeah will. You can easily see a show doing the next episode where it shows like a flashback of them to when they come to that that thing where they work together like normally it british show really trust your intelligence to pick up this kind of historical things and understand that there's a lot of layering underneath what's what's going on and you find that the the toward the end the conflict of the show ends up not being whether they're gonna win whether they can trust in their system and were ted wants to wants to believe in roy's ability to to step back and so they can win. Coach beard has a tell them you know it is about winning for these people and even though their whole their whole mantra has been the let the people grow in the more important things let the the players grow as people and that's a progression that ted makes because this is a more professional team in these coach before you're totally right. Yeah also anthony head giles. From buffy plays he plays the big antagonist show. And i didn't recognize. I grew up. I mean with all that charisma you ever think tiles do anything. But a hugh grant impression so far anthony head shows up and he's all like hello darlings. So that episode. That's we watch that. Last night. And i had some new ideas about that episode. So this is the episode in which the team has its annual fundraising dinner and the players. All auctioned off to rich old ladies a lot of opportunity for comedy jealousy and ted engineers to have the two warring soccer players at the same table. Jamie and a cake. Greg can't and so clearly lasso knows that this night is about conflict. He is engendering and fomenting some conflict between these players so they can work out. What's going on between them and yet when he meets he meets giles. He meets a rupert played by anthony. Had right after he meets rupert he goes to the bar and asks for a triple drink. And he's like. Can i have a scotch a double scott. Can i get a double in a single. Can you put it all on the same block. Me a triple and you realize ted's in conflict even though he's come to this evening expecting conflict and my theory i thought about last night is he's in conflict because he's actually just met a genuinely awful human being and he hasn't yet in the show everybody else's essentially good even if they're don't realize that they're good but anthony had plays a want monster of a human being and ted's reaction to it is really interesting to me. It hurts his soul to be around. Someone like that in the immediately needs a big stiff drink. Yeah iraq's him and and you know he's not saying either right he takes. The joy and pleasure in in giving rupert has come up later on the season you know to to white knight iraq as he says himself in a wonderful dart seen. Yep yep and actually the so. There's this other thing. Which is you get to watch rupert. And rebecca's dynamic their access. She owns his sports team. Now that's where their thing is and he is remarkably good as brits can be at saying something truthful that's also devastatingly awful at the same time this is very much an anglo-saxon skill but When you get to see rebecca's real like she finds it crushing to be around rupert. Because he's so awful at the end of that episode. What is had do you. Don't get to see him. Give rupert come up. It's but he turns to rebecca and he basically says you might feel like you're the only one season for who he truly is but you're not and what he's doing is he's saying i bear witness to the thing that you can see you're not alone. Not gaslight which is what most of rupert's awfulness is it's kind of gas lighting shadiness and ted just as i see it. Which again is like i mean. Look the i think the the the the what do you call it. The caricature holds true. Men really like we like solving problems and you want that seem to involve a solution to a problem. Oh what ted is doing is just providing a little bit of emotional support to rebecca saying. I see what you see which is amazing. That also i mean. We haven't talked about it at all. The ted's ted's personal life. What heads going through now right like today's products like bs to come to terms of that. He can't fix this thing even though he's trying to give her the space by going to whereas add you coming up at some point. That was heartbreaking from ages watching this like him realized this this is over and like i can't. I can't do anything about this and it's unhealthy to try at this point it is. That is a really intense thing to witness his his emotional landscape again. Not a. he's up perfect in any by any metric by any stretch of the imagination. But he's also okay with himself. In a way that i met few people who are that. Okay with themselves you know doesn't at dinner with reporter or like just spending. The reporter is the monument of what the entire country thinks of him. Went all these people. And he's just he's he's okay just like you know going into the dinner and saying hey the waiter this restaurant you should meet this guy you do. You agree guys befriends. Wow and you know that that's what's going to happen. You know older jaded bohemian reporter trend. Kim of the independent or whatever. His name is and that crazy like mop of hair. He's got and you know that like. Oh ted's got to win them over in this episode but still the way ted wins him over. You really get the the psychological weight of what it is for the reporter to like really with this. Wow this guy's trying to win me over and it's frigging working. 'cause that he felt like was a little bit just a cliche. The reportedly writing articles very much like the right choice. Sober like he's won over my heart and now you can win over yours to. I'll be rooting for him. Like some cliche characters. That are great. Like sam is a little bit of a cliche. Danny roha football is life like they will comedic moments. What did you guys think of. I'm looking on santa's jamie jamie's the hot the hot i thought talking about subvert expectations like by the moment we actually see something happened with him and shed. He's gone from the show. Essentially i thought that was an interesting choice that ultimately by the end after digestion everything left me more fulfilled. I think in seeing his effect on jamie even though he be the team that we were supposed to be rooting for yeah and not only beat them but beat them by enough points that they're relegated right like it's a really. It's a crushing defeat. But it also gives ted a chance to tell jamie nice work on passing the ball before that goal that destroyed us because that's what he's been trying to get jamie to do. The whole episode is to play as part of a team rather than be alone. And that's a beautiful moment. When jamie oprah's character rosa character. Yeah it says something about his coaching as his coaching is like transcended just his team just like us. He's inflicted something ended in this character in his own character. firm to go on and succeed in ways to the reporter. He says my goal here is to make each of these young men the best versions of themselves both on and off the court and he really one of the things remarkable to watch with sedate as he as i watched the show. A second time is how much this kind of g. will occurs mask. He wears is belied by this sort of incredible watchfulness in his is seen after seeing after seeing and when people say things that are surprising or or awful to each other you want him just like he'll just blink a little bit and show you he's taking in this weird thing and later on he's gonna respond to it but sudan is doing all this great subtle stuff i think he speaks to the confidence in the show runners also where may can really slow play their ending ends with so many hanging threads what they they're basically really confident they're gonna be able to extend the story right like very you could vary been easy easily have been there victory of not being they will necessarily win the game but they ended up high and you almost end there for the first time soccer the fact that they do get relegated means they get to extend that story where whenever they ended up winning or or getting back in there permanently like that becomes much more satisfying and this show is renewed for two more seasons so good more season so i had a theory which is that this show is this is based off of am i correct a set of commercials like a series the character was created as an article about the the the ted lhasa was created by today's as part of this nbc web series to help integrate a football into american audiences. Okay because they had the rights to broadcast primarily in the states. I okay so developing he'd been developing a for a decade now and it found its home into an apple. Tv which is funny because no watching show on like the show was clearly filmed in two thousand. Eighteen is their unani iphone. Ten s eleven frowned. Show this is. Because i caught in the opening credits. The first time. I watched it based on some predecessor material. But the fact is this. Show is very franchise. -able you could make the so in every language in every country and you not only that ted could constantly bounce season by season from team to team two team or different work all of a sudden the season's with soccer and then he's doing cricket or bowling. Martin crowe whatever. It's soccer football. Fans apparently love the show as well. I'm so glad to hear that is. It's outing their sport. Which doesn't get a lot of american intentions attention into you. Know giving the even dissect it like. The afc richmond team is not a real team but like they are like graphics are flash where they can analyze all which team did actually take the place of. We're premier league and yeah you know it did. Its job in terms of me. More curious about the structure of that sport. And how different is from how. Football's on here absolutely Yeah i it's hard to overestimate how good it feels to watch a show. That's just about watching good. People get better at this moment in time. Feels like exactly the right sichor. And yeah my my wife and i finished about one. Am on that on friday. Five hours of binging and we started right up again on on sunday. If you find yourself tonight listening to this podcast feeling anxious and maybe not wanting to turn on the news you can go and you have an apple. Tv plus subscription go binge ted lasso. That's a great way to spend your evening and then after that is in the process and then reach out to us to thank us. Because we'll say you're welcome. You're absolutely welcome based davis is making the world a little bit of a better place. And i'm so glad for it. It's a great place to end We're we're gonna stickers. I'm not wearing my secret. But i voted gamma joey and you'll note. Hey also a the came out. I watched episode one. I know we're not gonna do a spoiler cast. That makes that first episode was a doozy. They'll be things to say we'll have lots of things to say we'll definitely in a month's time come back Before the season's over and talk about it. I'm already working on us on a full mando. I think With best car or without best car. I'm a. I'm a best guy. Wow okay yeah. I preferred that i prefer the latter. Half a season went are really interesting. I i am the opposite i like. I like the the more western looking raggedy the old more. Yeah anyway all right. We'll talk about then. Thanks so much for listening Vote vote vote. Vote vote vote vote.
(Almost) Zero Waste Holidays: Traditions With Less Trash
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That's left years later in today's episode lease and chat about ways to celebrate with the planet in mind we answer the great fake versus real christmas tree debate. We share our favorite ways to wrap presence in eco friendly fashion in more. So let's get into it. Hey liza how's it going good. How are you good. you know. i can't believe that it is december so close to christmas and all the other holidays. We love like. I feel like it was just the summertime. I know it was just the summertime. The lung and then zik is like we keep saying we'll call calming and now like whip pas thanksgiving will literally like i think all of us are in the spirit of like literally wrapping presents. So that's kind part of what we will be talking about today rate. Yeah absolutely so when we were talking with our community you know when we say community right. There's our social media following those people who write in. That listened to the podcast. Which by the way apple just featured us again or the dime for the third time their favorite podcasts for conscious consumer so thank you so much our listeners or your support i feel like they you know they see metrics about the way you listen to this podcast. I know that helps them. Pick and it's just been were so thankful for that. I mean it's just it's amazing But one of the things that our community brings up. You know we have embassador and Folks that are engaging in our app. they're like look. How do i have a holiday season. That's a little bit more responsible. So we talk about things from a gifting perspective like we. You guys will know. We just did a bunch of episodes about gift dean. You can also look back at last year's episodes shoe. But i think in general we want to help you basically have a more sustainable holiday right. Exactly exactly yeah so today in in that spirit. We said that we really wanted to chat about how you can prevent waste with your holiday traditions. Because we all have holiday traditions. Liza was just telling me about russian. Christmas which is like a little bit different than what i'm used to. But it's it's you know we all have very similar traditions that we like to engage in and actually over half of americans report that. They're trying to replicate holiday traditions from their childhood. Which i love that. That's so yeah and that's so special exactly in this year. Of course we could all use a little bit more holiday cheer than even years past because we are still in the midst of a pandemic We're still trying to find joy. Our we can so as we think about these traditions that we go through and just kind of do out of habit. I think it makes sense for us to kind of look at them from a consciously curious consumer perspective. Right yeah exactly. And of course. I think we share. Some of the staff will do before. But you know it's been reported that americans throw away twenty five percent more treasury thanksgiving to new year's holiday periods and at the time and this extra waste amounts of twenty five million tons of garbage about one million extra tons per week the specific how crazy and of course one of the most popular topics within our community. Recently is the bag right. And there's this crazy fact which is very kind of inspirational. if every family were up just three presence in reused materials it will save enough vapor to cover forty five thousand football fields. Imagine that yeah. That's a that's a staggering visual and i think gift wrapping all of these things that we love to do. We're going to get into and talk specifically about like what are the things that we can do. And what's the impact there that's exactly. Yeah so well. Why don't we start with this. Most heated topic within our community on instagram. Is of course the christmas tree their holiday when we shared the post on our instagram about. If you guys are full enough on instagram we have this serious cold by these. Note that where. We recommend an of more eco friendly sustainable options to different products. Beat your shoes djaama's or in this case. It's greece mr right. Y'all got almost seven thousand like and probably one of our Record-breaking comments two hundred and forty three. Yes amazing right. Yeah and this one kind of stemmed from a question that i had my seattle last year Which was what is more sustainable. Or eco friendly to get a photo tree and reuse it every year to get a real one And not have something. That's big and plastic around and then other people started talking about like what. What is it needs to get like a potted real one or rent one so like there's a lot to think about here. Yeah no and i love it. And i think exactly like i think last year we were only thinking about four or real one. Maybe one there are in. you just shared. I think you saw in twitter. I know you'll love for two openings. Twitter rate that i the london farm is allowing to ranted. I do believe there are some farms in the us to that along to rent Christmas trees and the the renting part is interesting. Because i saw so when liza talks about comments and like controversy and stuff like this is why we do this podcast. That has as you guys now. There is not a black and white answer to most consumer decisions that we can make from sustainability perspective. And the just the christmas tree wine is obviously people are very emotional about it. Because most of us put up a christmas tree It's very ingrained traditions. Like we're talking about. But for the renting thing i felt was really interesting. Even that tweet. That talked about that london Shop that that let people rent them out people. Of course were commenting there and asking all these questions such as if you have a rented christmas tree that you bring into your home and you use it and then you give it back. This place was saying that they put it back on a farm. They take care of it. And then eventually after i can't remember how many uses they said let's say like five or six uses or suddenly virus six years than they actually take it out of the pot and planet like goes onto a you know a forester. Whatever which sounds great. Ever people who actually know about houseplants implants were of chinese. We're in we're asking questions like will. Doesn't this like shock. The tree and stress it from going from outside to indoor every year like does it get dried out when it's in your house and again like there are so many different choices to be made here. So that's why we wanted to talk about this. I personally have a photo trie A fake plastic trees an that is because of one main thing which is my husband is allergic monreale trees so he he can handle a little bit but if it's if it's in the house for like a long period of time he starts to get really sensitive too long The smell or something like that so we can't But growing up we did use real trees at my house Up until. I think we know i got to high school or something. But so. here's the deal if you have to have a fake or plastic tree a lot of still. I'm the thing we want to get across to. You is used that sucker forever because when you put it in a landfill it's not going anywhere So if you go out to go purchase a tree from a home depot or wherever you're going to purchase it from i mean first of all it's there are very few made in america sort of made with You know responsible supply chain trees. They do exist. they're insane. Expensive looked at thousand dollars in opposite probably not within most people's on budget. But if you go by one don't get a trendy one right like if you are gonna get a quick one or galilee year. that's right. Don't get a pink one. Maybe don't even get one that has like the fake snow on it. Because i think he is no worst to. That's right they kind of go in and out of style so just like get one that you're gonna love. Don't get a giant one because like what if you move you know like try and get an average site tree that you're gonna use forever. They were ethnic ice box. Been though that's great one. And like i was just talking to my friend who now is in texas originally from jackson and her her The same as yours ready to has a fake story for raid and even though she grew up in new england of course with real trees righteous like you know in texas fine trees are not grown so it will be extremely extremely unsustainable for me to actual by live trees. I think this is kind of one of the well. Listen for me. You know buying local really like whether it's food or trees anything. It has tremendously positive impact on environment. When you know you're not shipping staff across the world across the state and so yeah. Do be realistic fuel. Living if you live in state where You know this. Christmas boundaries are not grown. Probably the fortress would be much more sustainable option for right. Yeah and i mean it could totally depends on where you are like. I do believe there was a farm. I was in north texas. And i think there was a farm that actually had trees around. So like you know. It's possible that they're grown around you but i think what's even more thoughtful leases is even if they're grown around you. They might be taking away like resources from like farming. That's probably a little bit makes a little bit more sense from your area so anyway But at least you wanna talk a little bit about like why on these types of like real trees can actually be good for the. I think you've got a few things you wanted to share about. Yes so that was an interesting Information that we found on new york times article essential is kind of more pro Buying real traverses plastic four ones and of course reasonable one is growing pine trees or any trees or for that matter. We're providing habits local wildlife right while they're growing so that's already plus On of course real trees. One hundred percent biodegradable Descend community Centers so on that aspect go there to And for me and this is some again. Some of our community members again depends. What's kind of again. Your courses inability volley for means super important. Is that the by buying locally grown trees with supporting local farmers ray. Yup they're alive and of course the trees producing oxygen approved by the local air renault that do from while biology lessons right and of course that was an interesting is that Pine trees can be planted. Unrolling kills that unsuitable for other crops and building structures making better use of the land to so this is kind of going more into like more. In depth into like cowdrey's are growing you know the whole agricultural techniques which. I'm sure most plan not aware. I wasn't aware of that either in other interesting part of that new york times article is making cutting down. Trees is always better for the environment. And they're like it's actually false you know. It's not all the key word is always right. It's not always bad for the environment. And another interesting thing. Appoint they made his than you know. Christmas trees actually their crops. Essential right there only farms like lettuce corn for the specific purpose of getting the christmas tree to you. You know what. I mean so not cutting down wild horse. No absolutely not so. That's good news about if you really like me Once every one game. I think you know like we said there are different choices that you can make for yourself and your family and you know the other thing is if you are in the market for not a real tree. Try looking for trees at thrift stores. or you know places that have like more good well type areas where there's bigger items for glock on craigslist. Yes that's facebook groups ray Like see if there's a place where you can get somebody else's Plastic tree before you go on. Go on 'cause. I the i'm sure they. I'm sure people are moving. And they don't wanna they don't want to bring around so let's let's let the thing. So what lunchtime is talking about. Increasing increases january sabbath. Right the biggest russian is a new year or january first and then we have a thing called old new year's which is like january thirteenth. And so one time. I came back from russia from my trip to russia. You know just after the the new year and of course then. That's when american stupid with throw away the trees. But i still have russian christmas. I still have the old new year. picked up somebody street from the street and a russia are famous for keeping the christmas until like march which is so. Yeah but the truth was fine and yeah definitely made use of someone else's Three i love that. Yeah i mean we think about the tree. of course. there's a lot of decorations that go on it so we can kind of talk about decorations. General i'm so one thing are just you know holiday lights so whether you are putting lights on your tree or your decorating outside or around the house we all love those twinkly. Sort of fairy lights adding they make such a big difference right like just driving by the streets of san franciscan seeing although christmas trees with holiday lights. It's you know it's a whole spirit now absolutely and it's You know it does make a big difference in just like having a nice cozy feeling your housing. I read a twitter thread about how folks up in scandinavia cope with the darkness. Right now. we're talking about. I lived in most go. Yeah there you go you know and it's called like Hookah is not at how you spell like h. Why the young designer how you pronounce league technically. It's called cougar. But it's like h. Y. g. g. e. Yeah mom you've seen it used. I'm sure energize. It means cozy cozy feeling that exists in so one of the things tips that people recommended were using these lights using candles. Like kinda make cozier house so when you go out to purchase new lights which again like please reuse. Your lights. revere year off a lot of plastic. Don't throw them away. But if you need new ones we totally recommend using fights and my husband is an electrical engineer by trade and he anytime we were placed any kind of light whether it's christmas lights olsen the house. It's he's always looking for us to use. Led's just sitting there a lot. More energy efficient. I mean led lights are eighty eighty percent newer efficient than incandescent lights. So it's gonna save you money They generate less heat So if you noticed if you've gone to change out an old lightbulb you'll see it's really hot again has to do with how efficient it is and so you know just buying something is sorry. Buying a light. That's using an led lasts so much longer less twenty five times longer. That's awesome so self mining. Protect yourself from overheating lights and Spread the holiday cheer and of course You know other people would say well. Why do we need it like one thing. Like i am kind of shocked like by american traditions Famous tome on jerry. For example house in san francisco is amazing christmas decoration. But i'm like how much does it cost you insane on the money but again it's your personal choice so if your family really allowed us the traditional having holiday lights absolutely do it and we just give you different options absolutely so then you know once you make sure you turn off lights when you go to bed with them on. I won't be able to. But yeah i mean granted. Some people do like to leave their but use timer like just either you can get a timer You're not a hardware store. You can just put all that on a timer. So you don't have to remember you can do that indoors and outdoors Let's see so. Let's talk about tree. Yeah so Yeah again the foaling as an instagram. You've been seeing on tiktok. Of course you're seeing a lot of ideas. We're sharing some of them. Without commute. Is like stringing popcorn cranberries at instead of the lights super simple to do And then of course other day away ornaments. I think that was your idea law right for an yes dummy about that. Yes so growing up. We used to Just make we call them like ornaments for the animals outside. So my my mom would get pine cones and my brother and i would cover them in peanut butter and nine put birdseed. Roll them in birdseed. Basically the bird see would stick to the pine cone and then we would take those sorta penn cone ornaments and hang them outside for the animals so they loved that. It's like a really fun. Diy you can do with kids that but if you're also bird person you could just didn't. I haven't done it recently. But i'm kind of inspired to do it again. Yeah it's nice and another idea. We actually just shared today at its from our ecofriendly live around and i loved it so you know we were talking about this snow. We kind of looking ornaments in trees. There's a lot of plastic in this fake snow curse Litter yeah glaister All of the things we love so much at it means lasted most of the time. So the cool idea of call to make use fine cones at three branches of pine tree branches of orange and then decorating them with some flour. Salt and water to make them look like as if they covered by. Snow is really cool. Check on instagram. it's again. It's just brightly that equal and of course there's so many more j. wife on things in between with ornaments our no going to go into all of the recipes if you're part of the brightly community an app this is where we all discussing different ideas that people have been probably know kind of learning from their mothers and grandmothers right. Exactly i mean this is we. I was laughed. Like i think so much about single. Use plastic right. Like whether i am like needing to pack a sandwich for lunch not granted. Weren't we're really walking around anymore. But just like you know we're just so used to using zip lock bag and of course you can use a stash bag or more innovative things that are new but i also like to think back to lake back in the day like what did they do while they used waxed paper which i don't know i didn't have done any research on wax. Paper injured the fact that it's got that coating on it makes it less biodegradable etc. But at least not plastic kind of thing so and who knows where tax comes from. Its most likely oil-based. But anyway i just think about like. How do people use to do this. Because they didn't have access to the single use plastic and the same thing goes for for gift wrapping which is kind of our next topic. But it's like back in the day. Do you think people went to yield general store. Box fabric baggage. I don't think so right. Like i would imagine. They probably put a ribbon on it right like it will extend of it. You know. I think that the most the one of the best that we can like a general advice for our listeners. Our community members is ask yourself. What would you grandmother do and yes. It's probably the most friendly things you could possibly do right absolutely. Yeah so we actually had some really interesting ideas come in from the community and from just people who are interested in this topic around gift wrapping so of course you can use fabric on and i know that there are some companies. I've seen some brand. New companies emerged dad lane fabric. Forgive repor something. It's you know like basically means on rapper. it spelled without the classics. What it's called there. You go and also. I hope you guys appreciate that. We spoke brightly like the regular english. Welcome yeah so there's companies out there that will you know of course sell different sized fabric but i mean truly. Go look for stuff around your home that you like go in for clothing that you're not gonna wear like you know if it's not in good shape we talk about cutting your clothing up into rags for gift wrap lake you know you could. You could even diy some Some decorations on it. Like get some fabric pain out like make it fun right so yeah exactly you can play around with it. You know for me personally. So this year i'm spoiled for my friends. Who are listening. Of course i know everybody. Every single one of my friend is listening to every episode kidding. But yeah i'm definitely making use of as many of the boxes that i have got recently especially after you know the cyber monday black friday shopping. I literally have stacks and stacks of boxes that kind of keeping. Because i know that i could make relieved. Nice packaging I did buy did by pretty gift wrapping paper. But it's recycled right. It's like the minimum requirement for me outside blonde But yet if you're much more creative and handy than me than your do the jianghuai solutions just so many of them. And they're so much fun Someone a one of the scouts i will. We'll share more of the holiday tips at our scouts. Combat or community to share with us but one of the one that dealt specifically with packaging Lee daily will she said rep gifts in a scarf and basically you have to gifts right. So as the scarf is a rapper. But it's also a second gift such a good idea. Yeah yes so you know you. Doubling the gives hukou holidays Not using other extra packaging and another two. That i got from the community. Dusek going to three stores right or even antique stores or even in a yard sale. I think villages share this shared the stood before but someone mentioned that she found really cool Wrapping paper in the yard sale. Because again i'm pretty sure. Like every time i go to wrapping paper. I'm like way. Did i have yet. That ever so yup. This episode is brought to you by sheets and giggles company with the name but a series of sustainable mission to make better batting for everyone. We started bargaining with choosing giggles earlier this year and the positive reviews from our community. Keep coming in. 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You're making a difference with every purchase had to aspiration dot com slash brightly to learn more about socially conscious finance and san up for a new cash management account will and speaking of leftovers. Don't throw away the wrapping paper in of the other bows and things that you get this year so sometimes you can't You know just depends on how much of a crazy animal you are. You look at your kids if you have kids and you're listening i'm not i'm not jim but you can certainly save the bows and gift tax. So actually we were laughing. I was just wrapping a present the other day and it was like it said like to my husband from his parents and then i just there was from last year so i just took two arrows and i was like two parents from my husband i like. Are you serious. But you can reuse gift tax just like reuse it. I'm give gifts in vessels that you can read love. The mason jars like put something in a mason jar. Just put on it. Call it a day. You know. i think there's just you can get really creative the other thing i'll say is like gift baskets. I think a lot of times people feel like you need to put them in an actual basket like somebody deliver new mouse game. Just put it in a bag. Yeah no. I am actually making a gift boxes to a few of my friends from the products. I either bought ahead head. The four am just putting them in regular boxes right. I mean it's a gift box you know. It doesn't mean that. I need to have a perfect brady box right. Are you have to have an actual basket for to give Absolutely absolutely so. I think it's good like we would with packaging Again you guys check out instagram on checkout albright lab and brightly equal. I think we've had some articles about that too so otherwise speak as great. If don't feel shame ashamed to reuse stuff that you had before it's kind of the main Advice for the packaging right absolutely lutely. Yes so let's talk about holding cards rate. I mean this is pretty straightforward again. The best and probably most environmentally friendly option for you send an e gift card or a car. But i'm all like old school person. Definitely love real cards. You know will like. I always try to keep all of the happy birthday cards cars. Get as a gift. Allow that wriggle to look through the years but of course like requirement number one. I think ideally choose scars made from recycled paper. Right or laura remember that F f s c certification. Remember which one that's right. Yeah yeah that's usually you would see on. A lot of actual paper products is kind of like responsibly. Made a not sure. I think there's different levels of like one hundred percent cycle. Not but like look for that certification. Yes you can look for that. We've done. I think we talked about this previous episode but for our brightly business cards we use papoulias feeds in it like wildflower seeds which is awesome. It's biodegradable so if you wanna give a visible card can buy. Don't we're not yet saying that you can't as a matter of fact like paper is one of the most recyclable. Thanks as we know so. I mean it's as far as the the waste generated. It's relatively low so make sure that you you know you. You look cards at are recycled We also found out that if you if you're using cards that have like shiny foil or or glossy coatings and things like that. Those are not recyclable. Most at the time. So you try to go for ones that might not be Glitter Glittery or sniffily. And i just wanna give blogging But with shared about this company as good paper. I'm i've literally we work with them before With my previous company. It's a paper made from recycled materials and most world again for me. It's made by women who stay escaped sex trafficking in the philippines. Now i think they're also working with young adults in rwanda a belief who were Who had diseases or due to hunger. It's all information on. Their website is beautifully made. I know for a fact that i think out in all whole foods is would this in the us. Super quirk in funny like all of that cards of super finding and so. Like since i've discovered brand. I have been giving them like all the time. That's my goal to card. They are as somebody mentioned Not cheap if you have to like send hundreds of them. They're like I think six dollars retail person but again. They've sort of burkhart their fair trade right than we've talked to you guys now if you listen to the cussing though why fair trade business have to charge premiums right and so their mission is near and dear to my heart so that would be my my my favorite brand shot up. Yeah and i mean you can do people remember back in the day. Like i mean if you're younger listening to see won't remember but we have ton of magazines and you would get magazines and cut stuff out like you can make cards and envelopes and all sorts of things just re using paper products that you have around the house so you can use magazines like there's just all sorts of things you can do so definitely keep the spirit's going with your holiday cards. Send e cards. If that's okay. Make a phone call. Whatever you want on but i think it's just a good. It's a good thing he remind so. I think one of the last things we wanted to talk about. Were just general gifting thoughts. So we've done extensive podcasts. Only on gifts so we're not going to spend time on us like please listen to one. We've got episodes about experiences which are like very low. Waste items if not no waste of. We have ways to cut down on waste in general gifting so please go back and listen on but we reason we bring it up again is to just kind of bring the point home. Because we know that you're going to be gifting things we know that you are going to receive gifts But once typically wanted to share was you know we we saw source that said. Some retail industry retail industry analysts estimate. That nearly ninety billion dollars worth of gifts are returned each holidays. It's so wasteful. I was like that is absolutely insane. I'm actually this. Problem is so out of hand that ups the shipping company has actually deemed unofficially january third as a holiday they call it national returns day and In twenty seventeen nearly one point. Five million returned packages got shipped Does up one day but that was twenty seventeen. How much online shopping has grown. Since then i mean. They just came out with some statistics from cyber monday. Black friday this year and of course broke records a left and right so you can imagine that if it was one point five million packages in two thousand nine hundred. It's at least double if not triple now just because of the just how many people are shopping and again when we're talking about this like we shop like lauren shop. So don't feel absolutely. Don't feel guilty if you know is year. You know if you want to keep yourself and your loved one safe rollet trying to limit the amount of time we go to right there. We go to physical stores and locations. Although you know your your local stores absolutely need your help so obviously that if you can't So you want it. Oh yeah when you wanna talk about. Moss returned items as yet. Oh yeah. I thought this was interesting so as we looked into the returns which again we do a whole episode about like the shipping industry canada's lines returning which is really interesting. Please go back and listen. We released it last year but in terms of the most return gifts. There's three categories. Which i was like i mean i. Category were not surprised which is clothing shoes like. Please don't gift somebody a random. Just use a us giving shoes. They're going away. I don't know what to do you. You you work at amazon. I remember my friends and like that's probably one of the reasons why people love him so much. You think you get the bunch of free returns and say yes right. I remember i was there when they started doing free returns so listeners. If you're not familiar. I actually started my career at amazon in the fashion space and so yes free shipping and free returns as long as you bought. Something from amazon was was relatively new back then and yes while. It's good from a company's customer experience perspective or that's great but from the environment like no like stop. Stop buying things and thinking. Oh i can just return. Yeah no don't know yeah. Don't buy clothing and shoes or people unless they have specifically asked for a specific color size like. I know that that might not seem like a surprise. But i'm telling you if you use a wishlist which we've talked about again. Another episodes give someone wishlist. Be released specific with it. You're gonna end up with something that you wanted. And they're going to do a good shot from a gift so that was one one section. I'm you wanna talk about the next one. Yeah this one is interesting. I definitely that was like i mean the high the the high spend category for this. This is because again love cooking right so kitchen. Appliances and glassware is the second most return category. Because guess what people already have this. And it's again. I guess is the main reason. Yeah comes with people's birthday party like like before it. I'm like well doing need this. Like i'm like i know ruining surprise for you but like i really don't wanna give you something that you're not gonna use your your have exactly. Yeah i mean if you buying wine glasses for pupil most likely they have been well no. They're not drinking absolutely not asked them. Ask them if they have. You know. what's funny leases. I almost i found myself doing this. Exact thing where you know we all have people especially like the men in our lives not like husbands but like know grandpa's and they can be hard to give gifts for they. They typically don't want anything if you ask them please tell me so. A lot of times people will give nice bottles of alcohol You know because it's just like a pretty easy thing to do whether it's wine or spirit scotch or something and i also have the temptation like wanna give them a nice pair of classes to go with that as the nice kid exact but it's like they don't young two more glasses and what are you gonna do. Do you really want just two glasses. No most people want like a set so like just stop sales money. Yeah and this lesson less hilarious in maimi crackup when i was researching that so the another top return. Item are suites. Which is like. Why would you return it. It doesn't make any sense then. I looked into it and errantly people. Are you know you get a lot like chocolates and things for the holidays but then people are looking to go on a diet immediately after the holidays so like that. He don't want sweet but it's like who accepts returned. yeah. I know interesting. Well that's hilarious. So yeah. I think we'll talk about it brief summary right us wishlist gift experiences by quality gifts. And like if you have to give something food-related maybe often for olive oil instead of sweets right just single worst vices spice by favorite breath again to listen to the previous episode. I hope you did. Last episode was all about spices. I m gifting. A lot of people spices this year. Hopefully they're not. i mean. I hope they are listening to this. Podcast for like a little bit. A friend support spices serving. Okay so well. This is kind of the last part in it like as you know. Our favorite part is the scout stoops right so earlier this year anything will mentioned this multiple times right out. Scouts communities when talking about scouts go to brightly dot echo scouse. To figure out what exactly it is and if you might wanna become one yourself but anyways we asked al commute to share their favorite holiday tubes a few weeks back and which they did amazing you know it's the tips about cooking tips about packaging declarations even hold activities Here we just wanted to share a few most favored tips. So one is we kind of mentioned already using glass bottles when you send in leftovers home so no food is wasted right so again. Don't you don't have to have like five thousand bucks south topper. Where but if you do again no judgment. My mom is one of the Reuse your glasses at again. I'm kind of a stacking up. All of the packaging As well but it's it's a great option to store your leftovers or sending leftovers with the guests right and this is a deep from skull every copper you. It's such a good idea. I love it yet so we already talked about a few of them on one that i liked was just somebody was talking about You know a white elephant polly. I mean there's so many leads probably laughing. There's so many regional american words for this term which is like a gift exchange. Yes so like you can have a wide elevate you can have. Our one of our scouts came out called a pollyanna. I had not said. Yes so pollyanna. It's a it's a ration. I think she's polish. I guess exhorted for making assumptions by pollyanna. It's a it's a where you see like on the grass like a meadow kind of So yeah that was a funny way for me like oh it's interesting that you so you've never heard before right now. I hadn't heard of this one but this is just basically like you can do this either. A lot of people do this after the holidays. And you can bring a gift that you got that you didn't like very much or there's just you know you can do it in the middle of the season but rather than having to get a gift for everybody in your friend group and potentially have lot of costs started just like do one of these sort of gift exchange kayla was saying that she she does One with her friends and family and they us thrift it goods or like second hand thing. So there's not like an expectation that like one person's going to go home with something that secondhand everything else is new or whatever. It's it's so i love that. I thought that was really cute. Cute idea so this one. Of course Thank you for leaving this tip for me. I thought it was really cool. It's our scott anastacia. The states she said used cuttings to make live. Breath ref wreath wreath loops in one. But yeah. I post christmas wreath translations. Please both us. I literally have like. I'm touching right now right near my desk. What what is awesome is how to describe it in english. And it's a it's a house plant. It's like one of the wavy winds like I don't know you know which one i'm talking about. It's like fine. No which one is also found right. Yes it's wonderful down. It's super easy to grow. Like i don't to have an planting yet as but pauses. If you're just starting new scared of everything it's so is to grow. I literally have from one us. I think i have two three more plans. That that i've grown out of the main plan right so the super easy to replicate or google this young that propagate propogate so so yeah you like they're really nice and you can make a wreath out of them. Yeah richardson yeah. So we don't have full instructions. But just google but basically you have to a glass bottle to the wiring kind of the bottle basically in the middle of What will be your wrist right. And then just kind of arranged leaves around that. Why right and again. It's both super easy to do like very bendable and it's very kind of it's very leash rate so i think i do think i haven't seen the pictures but i do think it would look really nice lead so you should do this and posted on social like you should make. I know it was like Will do that. I'm just like i'm always like not super handy but like this. I just needed to get more instructions that it sounds very easy. So yeah thank you day. Should put said yeah. It's really cool anyways. A we have a. We have like hundred more additives from our community Actually al financing. Our community will be feeling even more tips tomorrow and this week so we'll probably have two hundred or more athletes for you at ends again at brighton that aeko slash holiday dash dips at. Don't worry about the links it will be in the show. Notes ruben the article on the website But yeah it's something. It's a great resource that our community to create at For themselves by themselves right. Yeah so i mean this can wraps up the episode guy. So i You know as you go out and celebrate the holidays please. Just obviously take time like take care of yourself or still in a crazy time From a world perspective so care of yourself make sure to celebrate the way that feels the best to you and again just like plant these ideas in your head like hypothesis And again all of this idea elegant was like to say that we giving you ideas doesn't mean that who every single member of the brightly team is. The staff is just ideas and quite honestly. I have to say like because we've been talking without community. I've i've been learning so much for them. How can stations with you. Laura ryan but mercedes without coming into the this might seem difficult can like too big too challenging You start small stars small. You know what i mean again. If you'd like me if As like if you can only buy recycled repping baber. That's only great step. You know what. I mean next boxes. So start small Aware all about small step sources Ability so thank you guys so much for listening. Yes and so happy holidays. Merry christmas All of the holiday cheer to you from us from liza and i and the brightly team thanks for joining us on another episode of good together as always you can get show notes and explore lots more content related to all things ecofriendly leaving by checking out brightly egos slash podcast and. Don't forget to join in on the conversation that's happening on our facebook group simply search good together at the goal shopping. In it'll come up. You can also leave us. A question through voicemail ba- link zahn brightly dot echo slash podcast. If you're into social media give us a follow on instagram. Facebook and all of the channels are username is brightly dot echo. Finally we want to leave you. With reminder. every day is a chance for you to create change and you're already covered for today since you joined us here on the podcast. 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First time for everything, everyone remembers
"Welcome to extra extra presented by BG sports on your host Vince. Douglas Gregory no filter the recent sue. Her this is non controversial statement. This is very very noncontroversial. This is so noncontroversial. I'm I'M GONNA open up I'M GONNA open up with it and I'm just going to keep it moving. Open a with it and keep it moving and hopefully we get to in. Hopefully I can't say that we will but hopefully everybody remembers their first year. I said I said there's no earmuffs. This is a family program and that is why I can open up this way. Everybody remembers their first. Everybody remembers the first. It's that that time comes along at time. Comes along where you can no longer kit? What you need from family. You can no longer get what you need from more specifically you parents Guardian. The people who people who get things for you provide things for you give things to you. Have you earn things those people those people and here is a catch? Here is a catch. But you don't need to catch it you don't need to catch it. Just desperate about the kit. Forget about the catch and you probably thought I was going to go somewhere else with. Everybody remembers here. I come on. It's a family program. There was the earmuffs. Everybody does remember there. I The I J. O. B. When you no longer want the gifts or you no longer want the items the clothing the things that your hair. It's provide you the things that you're guardians. Get you two things that the people by you you know the people that you you live in their their home their dwelling and they give you things assuming you of eight assuming you are at your that age to have this talk you the age to have the talk of you are at that age with you pass. Agent didn't have this talk. I'm just GONNA say the rest of us aren't as lucky. The rest of US had to have experienced the first the rest of US ninety nine percent yet we had the we had the experience. Or I'll just say eighty eight because eight hundred good good solid number and I like eighty six eighty eighty percent of the rest of us had this talk. Eighty percent of the rest of us had the top where we wanted certain items. We wanted certain things but the parents was like. Oh no no no no. If you want that you're GONNA have to go out and get it yourself. You going to have to go out and get yourself assuming go out and get yourself meany. Go OUT AND GET A J. O. B. Go Out and get a job or something to provide income that is legal something to provide income that is the right thing doing the right thing holding up doing the right thing and not doing anything illegal. Nigel anything wrong. Not doing anything bad does not. We're promoting here. None of that. Everybody remembers that I you at that age. Where the clothing the things that items that? You're receiving that you're getting is just not. It's just not up to snuff is not up to snuff. Whatever reason you have your choice. Pick your own adventure. Whatever reason you have that this is not up to snuff. You go to them and you ass. I want something different. I want something else. Give me. Somethin' different give me something else. I don't want this. You can throw attention but we we're past that stage that stage it it's gone it no longer works in. You are still at that stage and it still works. I'm just GONNA say no Judge Zone. We don't judge here we don't judge here and I'm going to stay clear of that. Don't judge here and I'm GonNa stay clear of that. Had to say twice to make sure it is known how important that is important. You go to them like but I want shirt. This shirt costs X. amount of dollars. If you got this money view go out and get that go right ahead. Do It do it so I had to talk the talk. Everybody Remember I. I remember my first in my first job. My First J. O. B. It was. I can't say it was like your first but I must say it was like it was like at least fifty percent the percent of everybody else's I I can't say it was like your first because we all know you are better than me however I am the leader of the mouth breeders. So they're still still a large faction still a large number that that shares or sheared or have the same experience. The first job was complicated. 'cause you didn't really know what to expect you didn't know what to do. I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know what to do. I just knew that there's a time from this time to another time is when I come in and when I leave or when I take a break or when I go to lunch and all of these other audiences other things and this is the first meaning this is the first so everything is new and this was at a time where I wasn't really infatuated with the the new really wasn't seeking out the new new. I really wasn't I really wasn't fully aware of how much goodness the new can offer. All I knew was foreign to this all I knew us. This is different. All I knew was doing this because I want something I want to get something. I want to earn something I want to. I want to be able to provide for myself. Provide from a cell because the peeps that I'm shacking up with back at the back at the Korea. They aren't providing for me scratched it. They are providing the things that I want for me and I was told basically bite him directed by him to go out and get this job to provide additional funds. So I could be able to get this shirt cost X. amount of dollars. It all sounds good in theory. It all sounds so right. It was like really this. All it takes this is this is really really easy so I got the first job I got the job and let's just say it was. It was a hard job. It was labor intensive not not not to the point where it was undoable. It was to the point. Where at the few few hours you. You can be irritated a little bit and this was before way before I was able to figure out how to not be irritated when things irritate me or not. Let it be known that I'm irritated when things irritate me so I'm an open book. I'm I'm an open book. If I'm irritated. I am projecting irritation out. If I'm irritated I am. I can't hide it. It's is written all over. My face is coming out of my pores. It is seeping out of my hair in what I told you. I don't have any hair but that's a different story for another day. Less nuggets sidetrack. Let's not get sidetrack. Here's the thing about that. Not knowing what to expect not being able to better hide my feelings better cover up how. I truly feel better yet how to cope or how to do things that I don't want to do things that I don't want to do but I know that I have to do because it gets me closer to the in game in the end game is something positive therefore must go through this process because the process will get me to then game and the game is what I want to get all it is it. It was good. It sounded so amazing gut feeling it was dare. It's always been Nair but I can say I can say as a matter of fact wait basically one hundred percent. I was listening to gut chill. And then I'm just GONNA stop in ninety nine stopping ninety nine point seven percent. I was not really listened to gut feeling Dan. How ember idea listen to towards the tail and I'm just going to say that. That was just luck. That was just look possibly me flipping born in. Aucoin volleying on Hades or coin fallen on tales. And that is how I got to that decision that I eventually ended up making about the first job and see the first job is the first job. I remember everything about it. I remember everything that I didn't like about it. I remember everything that I detest about it. I remember everything that I hated about an I remember everything. Did I just say you know what I can't do this any more no way? I don't care about the end game. I don't care about the in and this first job. Recall all of these things in all of those factors all of these moods all these emotions everything that took place. It was like it was yesterday. Yes the day is on my mind boy. Had Angel like voice. Ige's comes and goes most of the time it's just there and I just had to let it out because sharing is caring and no. I'm not making my chest pop because that wouldn't be the proper thing to do right about now and I'll just leave it at that. This first job it was memorable and think that I remember the most thing that just makes me feel the best. Is it how ended how it ended in the thing about the first job? It's the first job hopefully is not going to be. The last hopefully is not going to be the only or Abuna position to not be able to have a job in position to not work or do anything for fun or has some kind of hobby requires responsibilities. And all that other stuff. We'll go right ahead enjoy but for the rest of us we know. Would it be like for the rest of us? We know when it's time when we know when it's time to go we know when it's time to say did you say goodbye. We know when it's time to say win. No win to say win. In the first job there was never a point in my mind. I was going to be at this at this job. Wherever there was no point that I thought to myself. You know non verbally. I want to be here for life. I want to be here forever. I WANNA be here for of very very very long time and I don't know when I don't know when I leave. I don't know when I should go all I know. Currently at the moment are in. This is the bestest ever and I just enjoyed. It wasn't any of the thoughts. Those wasn't any of Maya words or word choices or anything to that nature. My thoughts was. I'm just GonNa do this for a short period of time get the items. I won't get the shoes I want. Get the clothes I want. Get the stuff that I want. Save up a little bit. Do all the things that I need to do. Get in get out Bam. I really didn't I really didn't I really didn't think past that. I really didn't like her. I really didn't go and do my due diligence. I really Dayton do the proper necessary research. I didn't do any of that and I got. I got mixed up with with Poor not not not not not really good. Good good supervise. I think I can say is now. I'm way past the statute of limitation way past that. And I'm now I'm not the same now then definitely not the same and if I am being judged on that hey go ahead and judge me just know that that that me into Mimi now. Same person personal growth completely completely different or makes me different with the personal growth that I had since then compared to now not the same in net vein but if you wish to judge me on that as an thinking that think that and you think that WHO I am? Now that's on you because trying to warn you here. I did it. Non Verbal communication but a nonverbal peeps. Already notice I just had to make it clear and just reinforce it say it al out for the noobs said for everyone else. I really didn't do my necessarily research on his on his first job. But it's the first job you're gonNA. He can make a few mistakes. You'RE GONNA make mistakes. I did however made a promise to myself in his first job that I I wasn't GonNa get fired. I was not going to get fire in. I didn't get fired from from from from the first job either. 'cause that much. I knew dad much. They'll give Fi 'cause in my mind in my head in my line of thinking at the time because hey I have I have a few. I have a few thoughts. I should share in swam. I shouldn't share in psalm that I do share. I shouldn't and ones that I don't I do and don't do en- do and don't you get it right wall. I made the promise to myself that I wasn't going to get far that much. I knew but my line of thinking and how I was thinking about the whole being by being sat being told not to come back anymore. I thought that that would prevent me from getting a job period again at the time at the time at the time. So things got bad. These got A. I really don't want to go into extreme details about how things got bad with the first job. Let's just say the games to be so not told we protect guilty in a game and and most importantly my role model my role model basically. My Co worker role model who've had who at the time had multiple jobs who was on point who nude game and was teaching me the game a role model. My Role Model gave me some opera. Louis advice my role model told me a lot of things as I look back now. Let's just say none of those things were true but at the time it was true. Now it's not true so I can chalk it up to charges of the game and does what and those were not. Universal truths does were not universal. Truth and I had to charge all of that to the game. All of that city game not getting fired because I for whatever reason to me being sacked being fired I would have been unable to get another J O B and still. The endgame was the same is just that things got a little haywire. At the first job things got a little haywire. I was unable. I was unable to know how to get back up. Know how to deal with certain situations know how to move in a room full of vultures because my man Jay z have yet to to to teach us to to show to the show until the show in tale about how to make moves better yet. How to do things that you don't want to do and I'll just leave it at that. I'll just leave it at that. For the sake of leaving at that and the game is to be so not towed and other charges. Thanks to the GAME NOT BE SAT. Not being fired. Not Being Toes Aka You probably shouldn't come anymore things out a little haywire. Things got a little rough things. Got a little difficult with a Capital d to the tea and basically I did what any other good person would do his job. When being threatened with the possibility of not being able to come back at some place that you really don't want to be some place that you don't want it for not fun just doing it because not doing it for fun but don't WanNa because not doing it for for donate because must accomplish go must in game must finish must complete in all the other things. Well so since I had that in my head since I am on brain since I had done in my mind and since I was so confused about the workings of First Job and I had a mentor. I had a coworker. I had a role model. Who was teaching me some things. They're really really really wasn't factually. Correct how ever. Maybe that was his true in history. Influence my truth but I'm with the Universal Truth Now. I'll just leave it at that long story. Short long story short. Let's just say things went sideways stings when sideways big time because of him and yes. I- important a finger and I know I got so many things point back me but this time pointing a finger is the right thing to do pointing. The finger is the right thing to do. Because I am here with you today I am here with you today. Therefore me pointing finger. It was a good thing. Let's say before. I was fired before I was sack before I was told not the come back. I'm not going to go in. I'm not going to go in anymore. I'm just GonNa not go in in if I don't go in if I don't go back if I don't do anything to that that if I don't acknowledge the fact that I have to go to this place everything is just go away. Everything which is disappear and I can just magically get out of get out of everything that was the that was a line of thinking that was that was the mindset. I didn't get fired. I didn't didn't get sack. I stopped going. I just stopped going unable to unable to trillions unable to do things I don't WanNa do unable to do the things that an adult should do donate things. They're adults have to do adulting at that point first job. No no no. So far away from adulting adulting was adulting. Wasn't even a word to me. Then in fact I should say I didn't know pretty I didn't know too. Many words is one word I did. Not the first time for everything in his Okay never mind. Is it first time for everything?
Painted Rocks, Powdery Mildew and Cannabis Flowering
"Are This is plant Rama with with Seattle for Naria and Myself Ellen's Akos. It's the podcast where there are no stupid questions. As long as the topic is plants. Today we're going to be talking talking about painted rocks powdery mildew and cannabis flowering which sounds extremely interesting so stay tuned but we're going to start out out with painted rocks. Do you love them or do you hate them c. l. well here's the thing L. and painted rocks came to my my mind recently because we had a family visiting with little kids and one of the activities of course to keep them busy was to set them outside with water-based paints and they painted a bunch of rocks and those rocks <hes> got washed off at the first rain of course but they had a great time doing it and that reminded me of the Times that I have been walking in the woods and see a rock doc painted with this colors and little sayings like smile or today is the first day of the rest of your alive and I'm thinking love the kids painting them under my arbor hate the ones with those self-important. I messages that people leave in the woods. What do you think well see that you just put your finger on it and I had never thought about the whole watercolor thing but I do not like like finding those in the woods or any place else and first of all. It's it reminds me of when I used to walk down the street. New York and the construction workers would say smile L. Honey and I'd be like don't tell me what to do. I don't want somebody leaving me an anonymous message in the woods but here's the really important thing. Why are you messing up my woods. My Woods are beautiful. I don't need your bright colored rocks. That's going to disrupt the natural colors the leaves the stones the earth the bark. That's what I WANNA look at. When I'm in the woods I don't WanNa look at a rainbow painted on a stone but if people would do it in watercolors and and it became temporary and it washed away and it was only there for a couple of days I would have a lot less of a problem with it really bugs me. I don't like it. I don't like it at all. I feel like there. It's almost like a candy wrapper discarded in the woods right. There was really no no difference. It's a little billboard oh board a little advertisement and maybe the person who has painted it is well meaning and wants to spread Sunshine Sunshine Sunshine in verse exactly but to me. It's it's litter you know that there are no that's they're littering wild in places with their own personal philosophy and I think if you WANNA pay rocks with your own personal philosophy and put them around around the garden. I say go for it. Just like I say if you want to collect thousands of GNOMES and have them all growth for it right yeah. It's your garden you can do air but that only and the wind exactly so I and I think as a child activity he whether it's water based paints or not. I think that that's fine again on your own property not in the wild Nada on a beach. Not you know in the woods on your own property then if you want them permanent fine I think the family that was visiting they were using water based paints paints because then when the kids got it all over their clothes at washed dried out so right so that was a doubly good idea. I love the idea that kids activity. I love the idea of the watercolors yes but you and I agree on this one. Keep your permanent paint pollution out of the woods. Today's main segment are eat drink and grow segment was actually prompted by an email but it was an email that from Bailey that made me feel like we should spend more time on this rather than just answering her briefly at the end of the program. We should talk talk about powdery mildew in depth. Now Bailey was writing about powdery mildew and her cucumbers but <hes> powdery mildew as something that can happen all over the landscape so let's dive into it ellen yeah powdery mildew it. It confounds a lot of people because it doesn't just wipe off the leaf. It's it's confusing. It happens to some plants and then it's not contagious to the plant right next door so I I think I think people need to understand two things I think they need to understand what causes powdery mildew and that it is host specific so the powdery mildew. That's on your cucumbers is not going to transfer to your tomatoes. That's the first thing and that may put somebody's mind at ease at least for a little bit. That is a great point. Powdery Mildew can actually be caused by several species of fungi and and they can be different from implant to plant and some plants can have powdery mildew and it's a cosmetic issue only right yeah for example. If you you grow in your ornamental garden flocks or <hes> be bomb. You may notice a long bout July especially if it's been a damp damp season that you start to get powdery mildew on your leaves but the plant's still flowers it still alive it doesn't kill the plant you can remove the bad foliage and in the back of the garden bed. It might not even bother you that much on the other hand. If you're going to be eating those bomb leaves like I am then. You're going to be really bug it starts parts off often with a spot or a patch of white to grayish almost like talcum powder only very very fine and then frequently will spread to an entire leaf surface and the interesting thing about powdery mildew people all often associate fun guy and leaf diseases with damp weather or rainy weather. This is one that's actually worse in dry weather hot dry weather and I remember reading studies done at Cornell One time Ellen where ah they studied mildew formation and downpours and what they found was that in times when it rains frequently with a hard downpour the powdery mildew is less that last bit is absolutely true what you said before four. I learned something a little different. You're right that the fungal spores for powdery mildew do not thrive or reproduce in actual water and a lot of fungal spores require choir water to replicate themselves but as for it being hot and dry I believe that powdery mildew while it does not grow in an actual water does require high humidity and a lack of air circulation in order to propagate itself so where I garden in New Mexico where it's hot and dry. We ain't got no powdery but I'm recording this in Pennsylvania today where the humidity has been above eighty eighty percent for the last two weeks and I'm seeing a lot of powdery mildew. It's actually been dry as far as rain ghosts. We haven't had a lot of rain so if that's what you mean by dry dry I am in agreement but the humidity being high makes the air not dry. The air is moist and that's what powdery mildew needs yes to be successful. Yes by dry I meant lack of frequent rainfall. Okay well then we do again happy and it turns out that that that rainfall particularly particularly hard rains wash a certain amount of the spores off of the leaf surface which is why it can be not quite as much of a problem <hes> <hes> as it is when it's just humid and no rainfall right so so that's often that's what causes or allows powdery mildew. L. Due to to run rampant in your garden. Can we give people some tips as to how to slow it down how to prevent it how to treat it well. I think I think first of all you need to decide. Is this mildew a problem for the life of the plant for example Bailey wrote because because her cucumbers were dying powdery mildew can also kill summer squash for example so in cases like that. Do you want to jump on it because it's going to kill the plant whereas if you see powdery mildew on your be bomb as you mentioned or on your Lilac it's not going to kill the plant is no it's not. It's going to be an aesthetic annoyance. Perhaps but it's not it's not going to kill the plant but if it bothers you one of the first things that I would suggest certainly for for perennials like flocks and be bomb is to thin out you're clump and when you're planting these plants to begin with south. Tryon site them someplace where you're GONNA get good air circulation don't plant them right up against the wall in a very sheltered protected part of your garden but try and plant them someplace where the wind blows through and that that may keep the powdery mildew at a minimum but if you're trying to save your your cucumber humber or squash proxy crop you may have to take different measures. Let me go back to the ornamental plants for a minute because because there are for many plants that are prone to mildew there are mildew resistant varieties of those plants for example <hes> the Moneda Jacob Klein is less prone to mildew than some other menards are and the volcano series of flocks as they are less prone to mildew than many other summer fluxes are now less prone does not mean impervious right okay right so in some summers. My volcano flocks has absolutely no sign of mildew at all and in some summers it gets mildew mildew to the point where I just frankly decide that. It's a silver foliage plant. That's a really interesting way of looking at it mostly what I do when it gets it's that bad is cut the darn thing back now. That is a great tip for perennials in particular. You know you don't want to cut your lilac to the ground for something like Minerva and flocks perennials that are prone to mildew. I often say you know if if it's if it's really bad cut off the flowers for cut flowers you're going to remove the foliage anyway so strip the flow you know cut the flowers have a nice bouquet. Bring that bouquet in the house and then cut the rest of the plant right to the ground usually with something like Minerva and flocks it sends up new foliage from the ground and it might not bloom again but at least you have fresh clean foliage and you've gotten the look of that gray powdery leaves out of Your Garden Yeah and and oftentimes if if the if the most humid part of the summer then has passed the new foliage will come in and we'll stay clean through the fall. That's correct now. Here's the thing thing about lilacs the study that I read. I believe it was done at Cornell. <hes> was they compared treating a lilac your standard fungicides to prevent the mildew with blasting the lilac with a hard stream of water from the hose once a week and they found the they worked equally well. You know I would love to spend my life. Just doing experiments like that. We please pay me to do experiments like that because that sounds really interesting. You just do it and you write down your data and you come to. I would love to do that. You know I'm I'm sure that the botanists horticulturalists cornell are thinking what somebody please it. Just pay me yeah. It's not it's not like horticultural schools. You know they're they're earning a lot of money. That's really interesting so if you're growing let's say squash or cucumbers. I know you said the experiment was performed on lilacs. Is it worth trying APP for your edibles or do you need to. I don't I don't think so. I think that the the foliage is to tender number one view blast hard. You know a squatter a cucumber leaf. It's GonNa. Shred the leaf number one number two. You'RE GONNA get other fungal problems you know so. I think it's probably and who knows this might have been related to the type of fungi right that is on the lilac versus. What's on squash so I wouldn't necessarily say it applies so I do want to mention that succulent tissues are more susceptible to infection by AH powdery mildew which means that you want to avoid giving a lot of nitrogen particularly later in the this summer to plant so that they grow bigger more tender foliage you know <hes> I just wanted us sort of a a light hand with the fertilizer analyzer for plants that are prone to mildew in other words. Don't assume that fertilization is the answer to the problem in fact it can make the problem worse well. That's really good to know because I think a lot of people when they see their plants having a problem their their goto solution is fertilizer and in this case it definitely shouldn't be so I know you garden in a humid place and I know you grow squash and cucumbers. What do you do when you see the first signs signs of powdery mildew in your garden well first of all. I don't wait to see the first signs. Okay proactive. Yes you it. All all fungi decides whether you're using an organic <hes> bacteria based fungicide as I use in my vegetable garden or whether you're using some of the you know heady heavier veer hitters synthetic <hes> treatments all of them work better when you use them prophylactically when you used them before for the plant gets the problem so for those plants that you know are prone to powdery mildew start spraying them early early and how early how early early early is as soon as the first leaves appear on the squash plants. Wow I start spraying the leaves leaves and the stems and we do it every week to ten days throughout the summer season because I use the bacterial Tiriac based fungicides and how those work is. They basically suppress the powdery mildew. They don't cure it. They don't don't kill it all they suppress it and so regular application. Starting early are the key to success all right well. That's really good advice. I don't know that you would have to do this for ornamental. 's No I think for well it kind of depends on on how bothered you are certainly good start spraying that flocks from day. One are the Minerva from day one if you wanted but I don't know I think most people have far better things things to do than to try and combat you know powdery mildew on their perennial plants <hes> I I would say though that here it is August Ellen and so some people listening. They have not been spraying early. So what should they do with their squash and what I would do if I was listening to this podcast and thought yeah I do have mildew on my my cucumbers and my squash I but I you know it's too late to start early a what I would. Let's say you cut off the worst leaves and you dispose of them all right and then not in your compost pile dot in your compost pile and you start spraying the newest foliage and stems and of course the fruit <hes> you start spraying those now being sure to get the product under under the leaves <hes>. I also wanted to say that <hes> there is another <hes> labeled organic fungi side that you can use once your plants have the problem and that's a copper based fungicide and <hes> copper is labeled as organic fungicide. It is a little bit more of a heavier hitter than the the bacterial based fungicides. It is one however the people need to use with caution because copper is this aquatic is toxic to aquatic life and so you don't WanNa be using it. If you live right next to waterways and you don't want to use it all all the time on everything you know because metals do build up in the soils and so as a quick you know a fix or or <hes> end of the season I wanna save what's left of this crop and then use the other products next year. I think it's fine but people should know that <hes> copper although it is labelled as an organic fungicide it does have you know some caveats to a tooth so is it safe to use copper on edible crops. Do you need to stop a certain number of days before harvest or is it safe to use right up until the day of harvest. Now that is a good question. Ellen and I will have have to look into that. I don't know off the top of my head. Since I don't use copper that often I'm not as familiar with the labeling we can put that in the show <music> notes will look it up and put it in the show notes great idea so Bailey now you've got some ideas of what to do this year to help you out with your current powdery mildew problem and and what you can do next year which is probably even more important to keep it from being a problem in the garden. Our insider information segment today was actually born of several inquiries that we've gotten via email and via our website from people who are growing cannabis and who are confused about when it's GonNa Flower why hasn't it flowered are the flowers ready a harvest and with cannabis becoming legal in more and more states. This is something we're hearing about more and more often now C. L. Gardens in a state where recreational cannabis growing is absolutely legal so she knows a little bit more about this than I do but I am learning and I'm very interested in this. So how can you start us off. What should we expect. As far as flowering the cannabis plants goes well. The traditional varieties ladies of cannabis ellen are triggered into flowering by the same hours of daylight and darkness so equal day length and night linked that of course happens right around the equinoxes the autumn Equinox which is in later September so for those people who were writing us saying that I'm worried that I see no sign of flowering that's because July and early August August art too early to see signs of flowering because the days are still very long and those plant should start to but up as the days get shorter her later on in August and they can if the plants of course are growing outdoors in the ground you wait for nature to due what nature does and you know. You're you're in for the ride in terms of the candidates flowering. If you've got them in pots you could move them to a place where there is for instance <hes> shadow after four o'clock in the afternoon just so that it's a little darker. It's not quite as long of a day and that can sometimes help to start to trigger flowering. <hes> fertilizer has less to do with it. Frankly then then the daylight well. That seems like an awful lot of work. I mean is there. Something people can do if they don't WanNa wait until the equinoxes to get get their plants to flower. There's gotta be something well. There is actually there are a whole new group of plants called auto flowering cannabis plants and in fact the people who wrote us that are worried because they're they're plants are are starting to flower already and are fairly short. <hes> those people are probably growing auto flowering plants. They may have received auto flooring seeds or plants from someone without knowing what they've got. An an auto flowering cannabis plant is one that starts to bud up and come into flower in a certain number of days nomadic tomatoes right no matter matter like what the daylight is doing and those plants are shorter and so for some people. That's actually a better thing in because the plants are smaller less conspicuous less likely to blow over in a wind if they're in a pot all of that sort of thing yeah that sounds <hes> like that would be how I would go also because of the lack of delayed gratification. I mean if you have to wait until September to see if you've been successful with your cannabis. That would be kind of hard to do. It's a beautiful plant. I'm not saying you don't get some enjoyment out of just looking at it but let's face it. Most people are not growing this plant just to look at it who knows in the future they might be but there is a new book coming out by the way by our friend and fellow garden. COM member Jeff Lowe and fell. He's got a book coming out about auto flowering cannabis plants and I believe it's going to be out at the end of the summer so if someone is interested in this topic they you should look for his book. 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WEEKEND EDITION- Researchers Explore COVID Parosmia, Chinese Moon Rock Mission, Pandemic Santa Visits
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The coronavirus front scientists continue to explore one of the most interesting symptoms of covid nineteen which is when people lose their sense of smell and taste as many as eighty percent of people experiencing temporary loss of smell and while most recovering about two weeks for summit last much longer. Some people's most favored and familiar. Smells could smell like rotting meat or burning rubber. This condition known as peraza. Scientists are studying why this happens in her getting clues to how the recovery might work or more on this will speak to robbie whelan reporter at the wall street journal. The latest thing that scientists are really interested in understanding is a called perez mia and You mentioned the loss of smell total loss. That's called anna's mea that's a. That's a super. Common symptom is so common. Now that they're kind of using it on the on the checklist for you know whether or not to get tested if you lose your sense of smell and or taste You should really go test. Because it's it's become such a commonly occurring symptom of covid nineteen that it's kind of become definitional for the disease And time just think that about eighty eighty percent or so people who suffer from from the infection The coronavirus causes lose their sense of smell temporarily. However there's a smaller subset of people other people who lose their sense of smell around ten or twenty percent people estimate Had there's no return with these distortions very unpleasant side effects called peraza and what that means is some of the favorite smells that you were familiar with in your before you got covid nineteen Awesome what what they call You know these. These spells are memory memory. Triggering things like coffee chocolate fried foods they start to smell really terrible and people can't even bear to be around and For example a lot of people. I talked to who experienced pirozzi. Say that their favorite foods now smell like rotting meat or burning tires or or even a sickly sweet chemical smell and Scientists have really turned their attention to this commission because they think that it holds some clues as to how covid nineteen attacks the nervous system because the reason for that is because smell. Sense of smell is is a very direct Sense that goes from your nasal cavity these neurons in brain cells in your nasal cavity. They pick up on smells and transmit them to your brain directly through Through a little bit of own between your nasal cavity and you and your skull and And because the the sense smells being disrupted and all the interesting sort of weird way they can tell certain things about how co nineteen attacks nervous if told a lot of doctors are saying that kind of this transition from nausea to peraza is kind of at least a good sign. It's kind of a sign that you might be getting over. Things might be changing and some of those cells that might have been destroyed are actually rebuilding even though the smells are wrong at least starting to rebuild that so what does that rebuilding process. Look like the key question on. Everyone's mind in. The scientific community is does covid nineteen directly killed Neurons mu brain cells and the reason why that's important is because there are different types of detection zeka if you remember that virus from for a few summers ago the virus was very narrow invasive meaning they would actually enter the brain attack brain cells and cause all kinds of unpredictable responses. People were having strokes. People had what are called site akeem storms which are very dangerous side effects. Actually call it death. It's not actually the disease itself causing deficits he's powerful side effects that happen. The good news about piranhas is that have you said it does indicate improvement so in other words you know if you haven't grabbed the because theirselves or rebuilding regenerating. They're trying to figure out. I sort of think about kind of like Alien tendrils extending back in your brain trying to find the right spot necked or if your electricity you might know this situation and the dark. You're trying to connect a wire in the correct socket. And if you if you if you give the wrong stock at the first time sort of trial and error process keep on both the around until you play games. Correct socket to make sure that the system is set up correctly. That's the way our sense of smell works well so if our cells are not pointing to the right part of our brains and signals can get mixed we start smelling. You really awful smell. The reason for that is because our bodies trying to protect us and saying okay. Something's wrong. I don't know what's wrong exactly but i'm gonna tell the body. This snow is dangerous so that the person didn't need it in themselves. So that's what's going on there. Another another really interesting thing about this is that i spoke about neuro invasive infections. So one way that this this condition happens is if these neurons directly killed. So that's the big question does grow our children neurons directly or does it kill these cells that are all around your neurons. They're called support cells. And they they make possible for smell detecting nerve cells to function to enough of these supporting guys around around the nerve cells and that might actually make it impossible for your smell detecting. You're on to to function properly. And if you only have minimal damage. Say you've ever feel small portion of support elder killed unlikely. Your sense of smell is gonna come back in a week or two. That's what the cases for most people who suffer from nineteen but there's a few cases where they've they've now starting to figure this out. Is that sometimes. The virus really does go after these nasal cavity cells in a really aggressive way and that sort of tells us that our body is doing a good job of keeping the virus out of the brain generally and it gives us some some guidance on how we sort better recover from it. How can help agents become a more quickly. I can only imagine how frustrating it might be to have. These familiar smells kind of be twisted in that way. And it's important because you know we're finding out. We need to manage inflammation in the body better when people are suffering from cova nineteen and then beyond that smell is closely tied to mental health and people with nausea. Peres me a long time. They get depression or anxiety so these are all other important things on why they're looking to find out why it happens and how to fix it and all you hit on. Two things are inflammation and the sort of knock on mental health effects of this disease. I one inflammation is important. Because that's why you support cells die right when a virus enters our body. Our body triggers an immune reaction. Where where everything gets. Inflamed and inflammation is typically local so the viruses attacking support sales in my nose and my my nasal cavity and causing smell loss. The not part of my body is going to inflame locally who's trying to isolate and destroy the virus but at the same time that inflammation also killed off a bunch of these support cells. So you know losing your smell is kind of a lesser consequence than letting than allowing the virus into your brain into neural pathways. Where it can really do some crazy damage. But what it means is that we're concentrating. Recovery really needs to work on a controlling inflammation that's one takeaway from studying this emission. That we weren't yeah and then the second one you mentioned as well when people lose their sense of smell weed we take it for granted we have our into snell in order and everything's working properly but the smell is closely tied to Emotions closely tied to nostalgia and memories of the things we love and the people we love and a lot of people. Don't realize that when you go without at the smell or taste for a couple months. It can really rare on a person's mental health there have been higher rates suicide with people who lose sense of smell or other senses and we want to control that as well so important to study this emission and how to restore sense of smell from a mental health perspective as well robbie whelan reporter at the wall street journal. Thank you very much for joining us. Thank you for having me. Take care if you've ever shopped for grass fed free range or wild caught meet. You know how hard it is to find in stores. 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China is doing is trying to elevate itself even further by bringing back samples from the lunar surface which only two countries have ever done before the i was united states and also the former soviet union which did the last lunar sample return back in nineteen seventy six so if it's accessible. It's the first time in decades. We'll be getting moon rocks back to earth once again now. There's a lot of things that have to go right with this mission. It's pretty complicated. And reading through it it does sound like it first off. The mission is super heavy. They have these big rockets. That are getting it out there. And tell us how it's gonna work once they get out to the moon and how it's gonna work to collect the samples. Then get him back. You're exactly right. It's almost like a very complicated part. There's four different spacecraft involved at all. Be working in tandem to bring this sample back so they all go to the moon together and then an orbiter will insert itself into orbit around the moon. And then eventually a lander with an ascent vehicle on top will break away from the rest of the package if you will and descend down to the surface of the moon from there. The land will scoop up the materials. It needs hoping to gather between two four kilos of material that will then transfer into the ascent module which is basically sitting on top of the lander and that will act like a mini rocket. Take off from the moon and then dock with the spacecraft that will be in orbit around the moon. Then they'll head back to earth together and eventually that sample will transfer into the fourth vehicle which is an earth re entry vehicle. Not someone that will break away. It'll come back to earth actually skip on our atmosphere and then dive into the planet and eventually land in inner mongolia. Outfitting all these things with cameras. Are we going to get some video out of this. Do you think they'll share all this stuff if it's accessible. I mean it's going to be a big moment of pride for them. Obviously certainly well. China has usually been pretty good about sharing things once. They've done them. But for this mission. I have some hope because there is actually an english livestream version of the launch which is kind of rare with these missions. Usually what they do is declare victory after the fact so. I'm actually pretty hopeful that we will get some good. I know that the scientific community is very eager for getting these samples back so the place that this mission is going to is considered to be a very young place on the moon. It's very smooth compared to the rest of the moon so they think there might have been some kind of late volcanic activity on this area and so scientists all over the world are very eager to learn about what the rocks are like in this region and it could tell us a lot more about the moon and its formation in its history particularly hard to mine rocks on the moon. It's hard to get to the moon for for one thing. So landing on the moon at all is probably your biggest bet but then once you're there the regular is pretty powdery so it just depends on where you land and i believe that china's well-equipped to actually scoop up the material needs and they're gonna learn obviously a lot from what they're doing here. This is at the end of it. You know some of the people that you were talking to were saying that you know this is kind of a more of a practice run for maybe future crewed missions to the moon. So that's why they're going through this very elaborate process of having that orbiter there and the ascent module and all that stuff so this is going to be a big learning moment for them for future traveled in space. One thing that china does very well as kind of improving upon each of its missions and using its mission learn and then do much more ambitious missions in the future and a lot of people have been making the comparisons between this flight and the apollo mission profile the one that we sent to the moon to put humans on the surface of the moon. And i think the biggest clue as this rendezvous and docking that will be happening in and around the moon that would be very key for future mission to send astronauts to the lunar surface so there definitely some clues in this mission profile that point to even more ambitious missions that china has on its radar in the future. It's gonna be really interesting as i mentioned. They're looking at twenty three days or so for this to be all done and maybe come back so You know it'd be a quick turnaround so it'll be interesting to see what they can do in if they're successful and you know we wish them luck all that. Yeah definitely and they have to get it done soon to because they're not built to withstand the lunar nighttime on the moon's surface where the moon gets plunged into darkness for two weeks and the temperatures drop well below minus two hundred degrees fahrenheit. So they have to get it done quickly. It must operate in that two week. Time span win. It's not nighttime on the moon. So hopefully they can get it done and we'll have some moon rocks. Before the end of the year. Lauren rushed senior science reporter. At the verge. Thank you very much for joining us. Caveney was supposed to for this week with thanksgiving behind us now. We're looking forward to holidays and some of those more traditional experiences. Like how will your visit to santa. Be different during the pandemic. Some retailers cancelling santa visits but others are still doing it in person or senate could be protected inside a giant snow globe or barricaded behind an eight foot picture frame. For more on how your santa visit won't be the same. This year will speak to abbas bhattarai national retail reporter at the washington post so it turns out that this has been a puzzle that malls and retailers and all types of then you have been dealing with for the last several months trying to figure out exactly how to get santa and his wonderland into their malls and their stores but to keep santa safe and to keep the children and families around him safe. So we're seeing all sorts of different ideas. The one that you mentioned is also my favorite the acrylic snow globe. So it looks like santa's trapped inside this winter wonderland and you kinda pose for pictures from outside. There are all sorts of other ones to. They're like huge picture rain so it looks like you know. There's a portrait of santa that you're standing in front of their slaves. That are extra long so the children will sit on one side. And the other one of my other favorite cowboy kringle texas whereas red leather chaps and cowboy hat and then has a kid sit on a saddle that six feet away so all sorts of creative different atmospheres environments that companies are coming up with most of the places that are doing. These obviously a lot of them. Are requiring reservations masks. Obviously before you get to take the picture and temperature checks so they are going through all of the steps that they need to do but people more than ever want to still hold onto these traditional experiences because the pandemic is kind of up ended life everywhere really so it's been a really important to a lot of people to the retailers themselves because it usually brings in businesses to the santa's themselves because they rely on this for work at the end of the year to exactly and that's what i hearing over and over. Is that everybody just wanted a sense of normalcy. They'd have to give up so much this year and that santa is it really kind of is long held tradition that they don't wanna give up and what you mentioned about. The antennas is really interesting as well. An important that a lot of these santa's not high risk for many of them are sitting up the year entirely or just doing zoom calls but the ones that are working you know. Say say really rely on this money they may be are just living on social security checks and so making a few hundred dollars a day during the holiday season goes a long way and so that's why they're taking all of these precautions and continuing to show up some of the companies that book santa's say that they're looking at declines of forty to sixty five percent so it is a pretty big drop and you mentioned Doing some kind of virtual visits. I think that's what macy's kind of shifted off to you but tillis a little bit about some of the ones that are doing bass. Pro shops has already started some of them and they're seeing huge success. Their bass pro shops is a huge one. That's doing it around the country and they had nearly one hundred thousand visitors the first week that they had santa in their stores. So they're one of the ones that requires online reservations. This year stay required that everybody gets a temperature check and they also have elves that are doubling a santa's sanitation squad so they're wiping out all the surfaces and in addition santa is often wearing a face shield. And so if you look closely in the photos you'll see sort of glossy layer oversee into space. But if they shield so that you can still see the face and the beard but there's another layer between him and the children. I didn't want to get back a little bit too. That snow globe idea because i think just as everybody has to kind of make these adjustments and think about safety. I think that's a perfect one because it's such a picturesque thing already. You know you see snow. Globes all over the place with san inside of them. So why not the life size version. But the person who kind of designed at least one the main ones. Catherine burge's out of richmond. She said she spent ten thousand dollars manufacturing that thing. He's richmond based photographer who every holiday season relies on these santa portrait to make money basically and she does hundreds or thousands every year and she said the summer she was in the shower thinking. Oh what am i gonna do like not gonna do santa porteous ish year. How can i make it safe. And that's when she came up with the snow globe idea so she invested about ten thousand dollars to get these prototypes and she has three or four different types of acrylics. No globes and pop up tents that all kind of like acceptable ways to protect santa and she's sold about fifty of them around the country different malls hospitals schools. So they are being used and another thing. That's really interesting. is that a lot of santa's home visits people. Don't want to go to the mall the crowds but they're asking santa to come to their house and like read a story to their children or maybe play a game or sing a song to the family from six feet away. 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Steven Levitt on Freakonomics and the State of Economics
"Welcome to contact part of the library of economics and liberty. I'm your host. Russ roberts at stanford university's hoover institution our website is econ- talk dot org or you can subscribe comment on this podcast and find links and other information related to today's conversation also find archives. You can listen to every episode. We've ever done going back to two thousand and six or email addresses at econ. Talk dot org. We'd love to hear from october. Twenty first twenty twenty. I'm going to remind listeners. You can get your econ. Talk merchandise at rush roberts dot info where archive all my work. So feel free to look around if you go there. My guest today is steven levitt. He is the william. B ogden distinguished service professor economics the winner of the john bates clark medal in two thousand and four or prize for the best economists. Under the age of forty and was stephen dubner he is the author of the freakonomics the book freakonomics and the creators of all things. Free economic steve. Welcome become talk to be harris. Thanks let's start with the freakonomics phenomenon. Why do you think your book caught. Fire mostly luck honestly. I think you're in the right time right place at the right time and we You know in some sense. I think what made it different from any other economics. Books is at dubliners a real journalist. And he he can write like almost nobody else can. And i think the particular nature of the kind of studies that i've done academically tend to lend themselves to storytelling. And we you know. And so i think we wrote an entertaining informational educational book. But really you can't really attribute it to anything other than luck. That certain things happen like i happened to go on the daily show with john stewart. And he made me seem like a hero and so a lot of young people are picking up books. So you know it was a lot of happenstance good. I no complaints on my side. That's for sure. Why a complaint. Because for about five years When i tell somebody i was an economist. They'd say if you freakonomics what do you think of it. I unfortunately for you that that's been that's that questions become less frequent but it was frequent enough. You did extremely well. And i think you really I didn't realize this. I don't know if it's true. I like your reaction. I think you were very early on u. n. governor in the The popularizing book takes a bunch of social science studies and reveals them for the listener. The reader i think. You're malcolm glad well before glad. Well no graduates before us. Because when i thought about writing the book. Stephen w said hey read this book by malcolm glad well and and i read clad walls book and it was and it was surprising to me because i hadn't thought about that book. I thought about writing books before. But they'd always they'd never been so popularizing or so journalistic and so Indeed glad was was there before and indeed did glad well for what he did to help us his blurb on the front of our book I'm sure had a huge impact on our success as well. That might be hard to test. i've wondered whether blurbs are fun. I don't know whether they work or not. I obviously publishers. Think they do What was the reaction from your colleagues in the profession. you know. I have a similar route. I'm not as successful as you are. But i've popularized a lot of of economics and in the early days in your book was in the early days somewhat of that It was considered somewhat uncertain toward to quote. Waste your time. Speaking to a popular audience and chicago is particularly having been stood there. Snobby place with a high regard for the academic life did did you take flak for the book not as much as you might think. I think my colleagues already helped me in such low regard that i couldn't really push myself any further. I mean i've always been. I'm kinda joking about that. My colleagues i think they like me. Okay i'm different. They treat me as different. Like i'm kinda held to a different standard and they had come to expect just about anything from me so i think they were so surprised. It wasn't a ultimately. It was interesting to the book kind of popular. And and and it made so much sentenced to teach a course like freakonomics course to the undergrads they would have had a human and the chair at the time came into my office and said hey just so you know you are not going to teach. A freakonomics undergrad card. And i said why not and he said well for starters. I'm not gonna have you profit from selling your book to students and i said i mean just be honest. I make a dollar copy from the paperback. And we've already sold six million copies if you want me to donate the hundred dollars if the thing. That's keeping us from giving our students. What they want is one hundred dollars. I'm going to earn in relatives. I would be happy to donate to the department. So i think it was part of a broader view that look this was kind of fun but in chicago. View the economic area and and You know this wasn't serious enough. But i think i think there many reactions to the book One common reaction is look. I'm a better economists and love it. So if i write a book i'm going to sell like ten million copies. I think a lot of people have written books. That wouldn't otherwise people got him for the pretty big advances on books as well that's improperly and i think a lot of another set of people have said look. I don't really liked economics. But the fact is a lot of people. A lot of kids. Read the book and let them be economics majors and the supply of economics faculties pretty limited in the short run and the demand for our product went up. So maybe that's a bad after trial you know so you said. You're calling ceos different. How are you different. The way i which i am different. I don't know if tom o'clock and i'm somehow not really an economist in the usual sense of the word I i've studied. I'm excited i. I know basically economics. But i'm really always been more driven by data and by almost. Maybe i don't sociological it's wrong. We're not sociological in the sense of the discipline of sociology sociological in the sense of very interested in society and culture in a way that many economists haven't been really. I know gary becker was your adviser. So very much in the spirit of becker. Although the tools. I've used have been very different and so i've just never been that interested in economic systems as much. I have been in using economic tools to study questions. That are are further afield than what i'm really at the edges. I almost everything i've done. You could look at an in question whether it's economics or not. That's a fascinating way to think about it. I wanna go back to your your conversation with with the Chair about the undergraduate class Two things come to mind. One is robert. Frank is taught that class for a long time does teach the way you do. But his idea of economic naturalists the idea that economics is about going into the world and finding puzzles and thinking about how understanding incentives or markets might help us get a better grasp. But what's really going on is a beautiful idea. It's also the same the essence. When i went chicago in When i showed up in nineteen seventy six. That was a huge part of the core exam was tricky puzzles like wire. Women's dry cleaning costs higher than men's and to see whether you could create craft a narrative around it. What's different about what you've done is as you just confessed. You're not so interested in crafting. The economic i would say outside of incentives matter which obviously is a crucial part of economics. Not the whole thing but that you wanted to bring data to bear on these questions in a way that that many economists hadn't before is that a fair summary. I think what Absolutely so. I think i've always doing by puzzles. And and with the caveat that look. I'm department so i've always ask myself by. These puzzles that relate to economics and so i've i've tried to really constrain myself to puzzles that relate to economics but but incentives have obviously been a huge part of of what i've thought about and extra analogies. I think have been present. What i've been been thought about and You know it's interesting because a lot of people. Call me a behavioral economics behavioral economists. But i'm not really. I mean i've done very little that fits into behavioral economics with a capital. I going back to becker. Becker and i used to joke that. He was a behavioral economist with a lower case b like he was just interested in behavior and i think that's the same thing with me. I'm interested in behavior but really have. I actually used many of the tools that behavioral economists have have exploded. We're all behavioral economists now but with a lower case greenie in fact in a recent conversation you had with governor on your podcast. We'll talk about your podcast. A little bit but You suggested that the impact of behavioral economics at least in the capital be sense meaning nudging and taking advantage of maybe what people see as irrationality Is not been very effective. That the magnitudes are small. You want to talk about that. I just took empirically so a lot of the basis. For behavioral economics has come out of laboratory experiments and and laboratory experiments you often generate really big impacts on. I'm behavior in what people do in the real world when we've gone out and tried to do nudges of various kinds with with the clear exception of default which are enormously powerful. That if you just sign people up for for retirement savings on incredibly big impact out versus out. Yeah yeah exactly all. That's really big. But but most of the stuff that people have tried to exploit and others might disagree. But my my empirical experience with loss aversion and with you know trying to use subtle framing effects. Many haven't haven't yielded very much in terms of empirical results. I mean i think there's a lot of evidence that you can use social social shaming that you know on in letters about paying your taxes or about energy usage by a couple percent. But but it's no miracle. And and i think that the the intra i think behavioral economics is really interesting angers. No getting around the fact that it is fascinating at intrigues me. People and it is enticing. So when i talked to companies almost every company i talked to approaches me and say we would love to use the tricks. Insights of behavioral economics revolutionize. What we do. And i said look. I'm i'll try to help you with that. But honestly i think oftentimes the tricks and the miracles of regular economics are are better place to start. Because there's there's a lot more power and just getting the incentives right and getting prices right is incredibly powerful cases. What i love about. I love that you're Your approach is that you understand that. Incentives aren't just monetary incentive. I think a lot of people use our mantra of incentives. Banner straw man version. and say. Well you know this price change. People didn't change. Or whatever forgetting the fact that of course prices and monitoring incentives take place in a social setting where norms guilt shame reputation matter and. It's only bad economists. Who think it's all money you said that. Not me but i agree That i it's almost reductive out to when you say incentives you know the way i use the word incentives i use it to cover everything but it's i think it's absurd because it's actually bright. It's actually true that there are social incentives and then there's also kind of more than so given the kind of those three things financial moral and social incentives essentially cover more or less the universe. Things that people who are paying attention to do the things they do. And so i think you know what i what i loved about nuts in particular. Maybe but i thought was interesting about nudges that until i talked to taylor about what he was doing even before he wrote the book. I'd always thought of our toolkit economists essentially you know it had there were there were you could try to do incentives or you could pass a law you know. And usually prohibitions or various ways but thefts inside. I thought it was a really good which is a lot of times. It's easier to trick people in the doing what you want them to do. Then to actually you know either. Like educate them us information or or to change incentives. And and that's actually really important insight because one of the you know especially when the time that you and i were being educated economics and a lot of the stuff was full information complete information. We got him. We kinda sumed people were paying attention than they were doing. A good job things not that they were necessarily perfect but that they were at least thinking about stuff. And i think there's inside. His people people are busy and they're not even thinking about stuff so just trim you know the just like make do it when they're not looking relatively big impact which you know. I think you have to ethically you gotta worry a little bit about that. Is it really the right. But i think in terms of actually getting stuff done i know. Have that kind of at the top of my tool kids. If i want to get something done. I think how can they. How can i trick people. How can i. How can i get something done by. Changing it without anybody noticing. I think you know there. Aren't that many things where i think i'm smarter than where i think. I better than everybody else in. And where i actually want to impose my will on people but those cases like i think the nudge approaches is really really genius. The only thing that i think. I know better than other people said. I don't know much more than anybody else but I don't agree with that. That cooking part. I'm and i'll let you defendant a second. I think you know it's interesting. I was trained. The you can't trick anybody. People are rational as the poll. Information Extreme version that that you gave. And i that's always been my starting point as as an economic naturalist doesn't mean it's my ending point. But i always start with at rather have a theory. The people aren't stupid people. I'd rather avoid the theory that people are stupid or they make this mistake systematically or they make it over over again. It's not in their self interest. And so i've changed. I do know that people do get trick now. And then but i think it's hard to trick people and i think what markets do is make it harder to trick people it you know. The incentives that emerge out of markets are going to defend protect people from exploitation. It's true they could still pay stupid price if they ignore the market opportunities but I'm much less i'm not as pure as i used to be but i've never i've got nearly as far as as as you suggest and and you just told me though that doesn't work very well so well defend your your your Idea we can trick too. Okay so what maybe give us an example. I want i want. I'm not actually saying it. Taking advantage of people. That stupid case. So so i agree i. I've been basic agreement whether you said that for sure. Markets are an enforcement mechanism that keeps keeps exploitation yonder within so in particular narrow thing about markets settings. A as i talk about this. The second thing is that. I'm not thinking about people making mistakes being stupid. I'm actually thinking more about inattention. I think there's real insight. Visit inattention interest is really important. Because it doesn't actually make sense for people like you and me to to to fumble around or on the edges of exactly. What's in our food or is one you know shaving cream doing some particular thing different a little so i think there's a lot of things where we just kind of assume that you and i bought the -ssume that markets are gonna take care of stuff and so we don't worry about a lot of but but i was more thinking about cases where we're not really in markets but instead will relying somehow on going back to the classic case which is for retirement right so we we take job. We don't know anything in particular about retirement savings. But there's someone in hr and that person's real expert right. They've spent their life going to seminars and studying retirement and so when they tell me that i should do this. I'm like okay. And then honestly i never look at it again and so it's not really that i'm necessarily. It's not that i'm thinking about it. It's not that i'm stupid. It's just that i've ceded control because life is complicated. And i think we do a lot with the medical professionals often to our detriment. Where if you just listen to doctors. He ended up doing crazy things so And i'll give you an example. I mean i've got so many examples of of the medical person. I probably wouldn't even go there. 'cause they're the kind of things you'll have to censor out afterwards. But but that's what. I really mean that the world is complicated. And that when there's opportunity cost people aren't paying much attention so around the edges but look on fundamental things I agree with you completely. That markets are really the best insurance. We have a protection against exploitation at which is kind of the opposite of what many people. Yeah how many people think markets yeah. Yeah i just read an article by canadian journalist. David kaley about the pandemic i. Just gonna digress on this will come back to the second to our main theme but saying about the pandemic and Why would summarize. What will i hope you. And i'll talk about that the pandemic in particular in a in a little bit but he talks about how why would phrase it. we've been trusting scientists but not science. There's so much uncertainty around the pandemic and the voice of sciences scientists are very loud and people go with their scientists. So i guess they're talking science but of course in many cases there's a lot of uncertainty around what they're saying and in fact are simply wrong on and with the question nba which scientists on both sides say really bizarre opposite things. And and i think it it taps into a deeper cultural question the you're raising their which is for most of our lives the you and i've been alive. You know. we trusted experts. We said well that that person hr. That's their field. I don't need to look into this. i'll just trust them and we're living in a time. Now where you live in on the program talking about this martin. Gurry expertise is going It's been betrayed to some extent by the practitioners. It's also been overwhelmed by the information soon. Nami that that we're surrounded by his glory calls it and so everything's kind up for grabs down. It's interesting to think about how policy and nudging and Incentives we're going to work in a world where people are really skeptical about what people who they used to trust. What what they actually now yet. No i i agree in glitz medicine for a second. You are diagnosed with some relatively rare thing You will you can know more about that. Yeah that malady than your general practice practitioner dr in about a day. You know a day of really hard study about something and you know a lot about it and which is the beauty. I mean it's the and the amazing value of the internet is the he is available. Information has become and how it can be used to help individuals who have who are seeking information so Actually i while. I agree with you that the it is it is it is sad that in many cases expertise has been politicized or distorted. I'm i'm not sure that wouldn't have been true in the past. I mean i can go back. I'll give you another episode. After our second book super economics came out and we wrote about climate change and what was interesting back to the scientists. So there's something called. It's called the union of concerned scientists or something like that. A and the as far as i could tell there were no scientists involved in the critique of what we were saying about climate change it was purely a propaganda exercise to try to discredit us but but because they were called the union of concerned scientists. They were treated with the dignity of science and and everyone seemed to ignore the fact that the the articles we were citing. I mean we weren't doing our own research. We were citing articles that had been in nature and science and these were by top stopped scientists in the area But i will say that was the case where by us strategically in exactly the thing. I think that you're speaking against like the strategic use of the reputation of science to To destroy things that the people who are who are going want destroyed regardless of truth regardless of whether you know right and wrong Was used incredibly effectively. I mean we. I've never lost a debate way. I lost the debate to the to the environmentalists. I mean Honesty partly i. I regret the you know we wrote it really poorly the way we wrote about it kind of triggered people to be very against it. I think of all the things i've ever argued. I've never been more right about anything than what we said about climate change. Which is that it was going to keep on going and all of the the the decries that everyone should do the right thing. We're not going to work. I mean as we all know that. Just asking people to do the right thing. When the benefits accrue to other people never really works and that if we're going to have a solution it's probably going to be a technological solution and actually what's interesting. Is that the entire. The whole world has moved in that direction in the last ten years. I mean i think we've come to agree more and more. that's true even environmentalists. But but you know. I it for a long time. People have been using science as a weapon to control things they don't like even when as little to do a size reminds me when i was once interviewed by reporter on some issue related international trade and in the middle of the interview. The reporter had a moment of unease and said wait a minute. You were an expert. Aren't you that question. I thought do i claim him and i said well. I've written a book on national trade. Okay because that may be an expert even though it was a popular mainly a popularizing book of the ideas of compared vantage and you know it was not was not what i would call research but she was reassured. Because she then put roberts the author of she's okay Thinking about you mentioned medicine and and our ability to have knowledge at such a tragic example to me of where the incentives and feedback loops. It would normally protect consumers from agreed. over diagnosis and over testing. Other things up. The benefits typically accrue to the doctor sometimes to the patient but sometimes not so much with side effects and negative outcomes sometimes those tests and And yet i think emotionally we have trust of of that person. As a quote scientist dr that it's being eroded through the internet and other bad behavior but but those incentives early i think play into it. A lot of the things we've written about is about chemotherapy. Therapy and how much of chemotherapy is relatively ineffective enormous side effects. And the crazy incentive system whereby doctors get get part of the revenue that is generated from the sale of those. I mean it's really. It's a crazy system. I think if people knew more about it. I don't think they'd be Very open to that system. It's a way. I see it which is show depressing. It's a way that often the doctors reaching into the taxpayer pocket the taxpayers. Don't in the room right. The medicare payment a negotiated price set by the pharmaceutical company Parade extra two months alive instead of using the existing treatment which is a fraction of. The cost is It's it's it's a bad bad system. It'd be hard to fix but it's a bad system and talk and your gas. We're we're trying to spread of the legislation. You're spreading a little more than i am because this is your audience but we're all trying to do our part and it's it's hard because and plus the invested interest. There are extremely tough. Did going back to our old threat. Did you teach undergraduate class after that. That incredibly generous offer to share the royalties from one hundred copies with the department. No i've never taught a course on freakonomics With john list we did eventually teach a course of economics for non economics majors to university of chicago and kind of i think the view is that everyone should have one economics course. We've never been part of the core. Economics chose not to be part of the core first year classes. And and i'm probably not enforce to say this about say it anyway let you know so they change the incentives at the university so that that to the department there was a benefit from having more students. Take our courses. We started getting paid on the margin and so when that happened. John and i said well. Why don't we teach a course. It'd be really popular among non economists. And so we did that. I think the first year we had something like five hundred students signed up for it which turned out to be worth a lot to the department and a really fun course to teach john's a good friend of mine and And we just tried to. We both believe in the ideas of economics being really powerful And i i think our own profession is a little bit gotten lost in technicality and in In in folks and things are hard and enlightening things. That are hard but the idea. I mean you've made no one. New has been kind of been focused on on the basic ideas of economics. And how to bring whether it's comparative advantage or incentives or you know how how effective prices can be at solving problems so we it was really fun so we have been teaching this course now for five four five years and of course we do give give away pedia- persons of freakonomics for free. And john gives you a free versions of of his book as well. But it's not really a freakonomics course in the sense that where it's like really incense more economics and freakonomics because it's really trying to teach you know what we think are the ten or twelve core ideas of economics but but without any math simply taught is like these are powerful ideas and and you should you should have them in your toolkit as you approach life. Yeah i'm i'm relieved that That it's more than a hundred when you said you're gonna give the hundred i. I thought maybe there'd be thousand so five hundred. Five hundred is is not too bad. I tell you. I'll tell you about the hundred or so. The reason i said one hundred students is that for the most part when we were doing in person learning The limit on class size was determined by classrooms and and the tip of the biggest classrooms that are easily available to the econ department in chicago or about eighty eighty to one hundred seats in them. So so it's always been really frustrating to me that That there are many students who wanna take my course. I teach a course on economics of crime which is quite popular and And i have to limit every year so one year i pushed harder and there's actually one or two huge rooms and i got access to one of those huge rooms and i had three hundred students in the class and And the same chairman. Who didn't want me to teach freakonomics. The next year came around. And i saw that i had been reassigned to an eighty eighty percent classroom and i went to him and i said hey december they make sense. We've got students who three hundred students who want to take the class and he said well the problem is all the other family members got really upset because there were hardly any students in their classes and they complain so much that i'm going lower you back down eighty again and i said socialist assistant university of chicago department of economics and our solution is to not let people have the one You shouldn't teach teach something that students want to go to like. It was i've had about maybe three or four of those defining moments where everything i believe about chicago. Economics is turned on its head in the actual practice of life by chicago economists. Who are great in their papers acting like chicago connah's but awful in real life. I can't give you another example. We were thinking about if kanye right really. I've tenure and we have a really fantastic guy who was coming up. Who's young but was coming up. Getting outside tenure offers potentially and so we had a senior faculty meeting and and so we decided to vote him unanimously with almost no discussion to give him an un- tenured associate position. Hey and the problem was it was clear that other places we're going to make him tenured offers and it was also clear to me that if other places made him tenured offers i. And we only responded. It would hurt our bargaining position and convinced him to stay relative to pre-empting those offers. So i said hey Let me just ask you like if he didn't do any other work in three years. Do you not think that this body of work is already done would be good enough for tenure and like basically everyone agreed and i said so just trying to do backward induction in three years. We're going to vote on tenure. Even if he does nothing in between does not mean. We shouldn't vote him ten year now. And and perhaps the world's greatest rational economics economists said. She's not ready for tenure. There was of the discussion. He's narrating for tenure. Even though backward induction told you that he would one hundred percent probability will be ready for tenure and three years name. Sure what that means. But it's one of those moments. Never get where i think. How is it. It actually makes me understand. Why economists maybe hold so little sway in policy and in the way the world works when even in the university of chicago department economics we make decisions that are completely at odds with any. I'll even. I've sat in meetings where ten faculty members who combined have an an an outside wage option of you know i don't know fifteen thousand dollars. An hour have sat for an hour arguing about how to allocate two hundred and fifty dollars worth of stuff and and at the end. I just said look man. This is my answer to everything. I'll just. I'll just write you. Check for two hundred and fifty dollars in one side and the other they have it like no sense. Why are we sitting here doing so But you know. That's what the old phrase people who do and people who can't do it is or whatever it is so that's kind of what i feel like some of the people in chicago. They're really good. They're incredible economists but but common sense is not always been at the top of the list of chicago economics out. The market forces don't always impinge on small decisions but that faculty member he didn't vote for you. It wasn't a free lunch. I'm sure you pay a price for that Reminds me of the famous line. Which i've never fully understood but it seems relevant here. Why are Academic fights so vicious because the stakes are so small. There's a lot there. We'll just leave that alone for listeners. To it's kind of zen thing we'll we'll we'll leave that alone. I for relief for freakonomics. I i want to talk about your new ventures next but before we leave freakonomics i wanna take an example from the book that that's always bothered me about my to confess And i'm going to give you a a real life Piece to it that. I think will intrigue you. At least i'd never heard it before. So this is the argument you make in the book that when a real estate agent is selling a house that she herself owns it. It's her her name's on the title versus a house where she's representing a client and is going to get a commission when she's selling her own house if she charges an extra twenty five thousand dollars for the house she gets the whole twenty five thousand if she sells the client's house for an extra twenty thousand. She only gets the commission of that which is quite small. So you're argument is that there's a tension a misalignment of incentives where the agent wants to set a lower price for the house. Then the owner when it's she's representing a client because it will move more quickly And when she sells around how she's going to be willing to wait a little bit longer because she gets the whole twenty five thousand. Is that a good summary of the argument and you find you find that the the data's to suggest that although of course it's really hard to to test it. You do the best. You can to make some sanctions and so on. I never liked it because in my view. Going back to what we've talked about before people relatively rational i think most people are aware that they don't have their agent may not share their incentives when they agents compete they're trying to get clients and therefore they tend to not be able to exploit customers in that way. That's my response. That's neither here nor there and we go into the weeds of of the actual study of not interested in that. But i would it take. My sister said who's who's a real estate agent. 'cause i i was so fascinated by first. She said well if you said to high pressure to the house just not going to sell. It doesn't matter how long you wait. And i said but is it. I mean she says that's not gonna. It's not that you wait longer. Could you get you get a higher price if you wait longer. I said well this is the chance that the perfect perfect personal come along falls in love with the house and and we'll pay that premium and you just wait for it but that's so that's a terrible idea. I well what do you think of this finding. And she gave me a twist on. I've never heard before she said. Oh well when. I saw my own house. I'm a seller and i over estimate the value of my house because i think it's worth it really is when i'm selling it for client they to think it's worth more but i can tell them. No you're crazy whereas out of anybody to real men to call me. So that was an amazing behavioral economics. Twist on the standard one. Have you ever heard that arguable. Say that so awesome. I it just makes sense of course in chicago. well then obviously your your Your sister sister-in-law. She should pick the right. Hire an agent right hiring agent. Then if it were to i mean obviously. She's if she has enough sense to know that she's falling prey to it again. It's complicated but yeah that's true. Yeah but she can't sell because her emotional reaction gino's it's and plus to admit to herself that she needs her own eight. I mean that would be that'd be jarring anyway. let's let's shift gears. I wanna talk about before i do. A number of people on twitter. Asked him what they should ask you. So i wanna ask this. Before we leave for economics there lada interesting and dramatic and and provocative and hidden phenomenon that you eliminate in in freakonomics a number of years have passed. Are there any of them that you want to say you've changed your mind on you. Don't think they're true anymore. Just for the so-called record or do you think they've they've tested time or do you want to be agnostic about it. The most of the things that were research based all of the things that are research. Based that i have more evidence on. I think i think stood the test of time whether it's campaign spending or legalized abortion or other things. I think that the new evidence. I'd love to talk about. The new addington legalized abortion. And it's not but that's not the answer this question. I did the two things that are just plain wrong in the book and it's really interesting is there are two things that are not based on data or analysis so The one was what we did on the on the kkk and it turns out that the gentleman who had supposedly done these amazing things to infiltrate the kkk and stetson kennedy and and we had based that on some historical record and talking with him on. After we wrote the book somebody came to us a historian new florida. Who said hey a lot of these things that's in kennedy said aren't true and we actually took it really seriously and we went investigated and talked to them and He threatened to sue us. If we you know we're going to ride and so we ended up writing piece in the new york times saying look we had relied on a bunch of sources they turn out look at. Somebody did infiltrate decline. But i think it was someone else in kennedy. Kinda stole that person's identity ex post and started telling his own story That in the other thing is that we talked a. We had a a leading sociologist. Who swore up and down to me that he personally had met. Iran's loa and the monticello The the the the two african american children whose names were spelled orange jello in jail and the guy would never have put a an urban myth knowingly ended a of the thing but like literally. This guy has studied like the black power movement and he was completely and totally credible. I i have spent a lot of time and effort. I've offered large prizes of financial rewards to anyone who can produce liangelo. And and angelo. And i am completely convinced that it's just an urban until what's what's funny. Is that the things that i regret. Now that are wrong. Are the things that were like. Well researched journalism as opposed to actual academic research. But but i can't think of anything Of my own research. That is in there. That i would say now. Actually that's just plain wrong. Well like my sister's stab you might you might have trouble evaluating your own objective censu- that there are people who've criticized their parts of that of your research. Obviously they could be wrong to but more generally Psychology gone through a is going through the so-called replication crisis. Brian knows on the program a couple of times. Talking about it I followed it fairly closely. 'cause i'm fascinated by it and it fits my priors shamed shamefully. But let's be honest I i am uncomfortable with the ease. With which. Many economists Talented credibility of statistical analysis For policy purposes ironic. Given that. you said earlier kind of haven't been very successful. I think we. I think we're the often the most power we're certainly most powerful social scientists We may not implement policy the way we think we ought to be able to but Are you uneasy about any of that. Do you think that that some of the findings that not yours but in general any any kind of metrics will stand up and you know part of my issue is how would you know. Unlike a you. Know a psychology experiment where you can theory can replicate it. A lot of our analyses are of course natural experiments or not experiments at all just attempts to control for factors. The a complementary technique are. Do you worry about that at all. Just let's to the most narrow version of it like could you actually if you started from scratch take most academic economic papers and actually get to the numbers that they get and i think the answer is no i mean that we we deal with replication in a much narrower sense so now when you published in the journal the s you to put your data set and and replication means is their code that you've created that if somebody presses the button it will actually give the number table okay into that. That's very narrow. Okay so then you go back for. There's a thousand choices that happen over the course of thousands of live code. That can go wrong. So i think my hunch is that most if not all papers have enormous numbers of mistakes in them. Okay so the question is to. What extent are those mistakes. Mistakes that lead you to very different. Hanover's just mistakes. That maybe i mean. I've made mistakes. One of the big mistakes i made in. The paper was actually a mistake in a paper. Nobody cared about. But i think somebody pointed out later but i had. I had not fully understood that there have been a change in the way the accounting was done on time series happens all lead my answers to only be about half as big as as it should have been because we usually most of the time when you make mistakes. They ended up pushing towards zero rather than away from zero saw. But i think so. And on every level i think replication is unlikely to happen on on. Most things came so so. That's always been my view. Is that a good basis for research is to allow a reader too much of the raw data as possible. This is assume you did a good job on the raw data. Okay and just discussing here. Here's what's in the raw data and let me show you every step. I make along the way and that and by the time we're done my own personality will be heavily injected into whatever i've done my beliefs in how i like to do but i'm going to start by showing you the raw data and we'll show you how it changes every step and i think that's one defense against this kind of problem i also wanted. I thought you know. I'm not very socially minded public goods mind in general but i if i were i think i would have started a journal of journal of replication. Where were you publish them. When they work. I mean the problem with reputations than economics if you replicate something and it works. No one's getting so. It's yeah and i'll tell you the craziest thing about and this is what disturbs me more about economics and replication than emails. John i i won't name the author i mean i probably should. Because he hadn't suffered nearly as much as you should for his misdeeds but in two separate occasions there were papers published in top journals that john lewis tonight essentially thought must be fabricated because results were so outrageous and they were both experimental papers. So john and i went back with others and we re did these experiments and not only did we find you know not replicate but in one particular case. This had found that if chess masters we're playing a what's called the caterpillar game. Which is you could imagine is a backward induction game that they played it perfectly. Like twenty hundred twenty stopped on the first move whereas regular people never do that but it didn't make any sense because among other things. My my cousin is a world class player and he says cheating is rampant in chess. We people she liked crazy. Because the incentives are really screwed up. And we've learned that there's a lot of games from cheating and so and so we went and we replicated this paper in a different world class grandmasters and not only did not a single one of them stop on the first node and without explaining the whole game. We'll make sense but the game the crazy thing was. They actually went all the way to the last note which is absurd and like no one in their right mind except really good. Colludes can ever go to the last note. It was so bad. this is a game. Where if you stop on. The i node. It only costs a researcher a dollar and if you go to the last note each time you play it. Costs like five hundred and twelve dollars. We literally were bankrupted. Within about two hours of the study we had only brought. I think three thousand dollars whether it's in cash. We ran out of money to send our his all over philadelphia to atm machines to up enough money to pay off the people who were doing our subjects. Okay so but the point is that says we wrote a rejoinder to paper and we very clear term said we believe not just that this was a fluke that we had gotten different results but we suspected that there was runs on the part fraud and and in in the two cases we did. This is same author. Within a year we ended up getting replies published. But the editors riff made us about anything about fraud or malfeasance The the unlike in psychology where there have been huge prices paid by people who have been who have been who. It's been suggested to have been fraudulent. Then this this guy goes along. Just fine tenure dopp university. No one holds it against them. There's never been a discussion. I mean i would say in the ten years since we did this. Not a single person has written saying. Hey i just read this article and the only way to make sense about your comment is to think that this author did something fried but like no one's even talked about not even discussion and i think And i think it's i think it really in many ways for us in economics. The problem is that the the the the space of problems that we deal with like the set of things that fall under the rubric. Economics is enormous and expansive relative. The number of economists. There's relatively few economists working at any particular problem and so if it were if it were more physics where there were seven. Big problems and every economists worked on one of those problems then if somebody was fraudulent one-seventh of the profession would be watching and would be focused on it. But so somebody finds out that somebody made a terrible day to err on paper. The fourteen economists who care a little bit about that. Maybe lower that person in their opinion. Maybe they you know they. They talk about but the disciplined south it. Just it just goes right by. Yeah well that's comes back to earlier discussion of course about incentives and We don't like to admit it but not everyone in the academic world cares about truth. We care about we care about it along with other things we care about our reputation. We can which is part of this but not the whole thing. We care about our status. We care about our salary. We care about our publication or cv. And you know. We're him called slicing. The salami was the mode of of many academics As opposed to say tackling one of the big seven questions. That reminds me. I wanted to ask you this Branko milanovic she's coming onto the program soon to discuss this tweeted last week or this past week that Economic nobel prize the nobel prize to the ex exactly nobel prize can by the bank sweden but call the nobel prize nobel prize. Should go to people looking at big questions. Why did china succeed so much in the last decades. What's the source of Poverty reduction there in india and elsewhere. these are easy questions to answer but they are the deepest most important questions and fundamentally he was critiquing not the research of the people who have gotten the price of this year safer improving auctions that the might might do not unimportant but these are not the seven big things. We would make an a list of the questions we should be dealing with What are your. What are your thoughts on that. I i think. I think the the challenges that academics does not reward answering questions halfway academics rewards answering the questions one hundred percent of the way i used that is the role of of of of of academics. And so especially. I think in economics there has been In underinvestment in broad thinking why is china's succeeded. Because there's no real academic return to doing that. I mean you know that's a that's that old men and women can sit around doing because they do not trying to get published. But i don't think. I don't think you can build a career on saying i'm going to tackle these heart problems and so I so i think it's to me. It's unfair criticism of the nobel committee to to have them charged with rewarding economists. I mean sensible price a lot of ways so it wouldn't be a crazy thing for the nobel prize committee say we think academics gets it wrong and we have a different set of instead of you know. We're about the big economic picture and we're going to reward people who maybe have had zero academics. Yes i mean the the best thinking about why china has succeeded. Probably hasn't been done by. Academics is probably been done by all sorts of pundits outside of academics and the nobel prize committee if they wanted could go. And and and you know give a nobel prize to somebody like thomas friedman or someone like that. Who's you know people who don't have economics degrees and who don't working but who write about big important questions But to me. I think the what the job prize is. I hardly can think you can fault. The committee for the set of prizes they give and in the last few years. I think you know given given what they have to choose from. I think they're they've picked really pathbreaking important research in both. What bill wilson. Don ester and avi and michael kramer did last year. I think to me. Those are good prizes. Yeah well. I think his point. And i don't think it was so much a critique of the the the committee itself but urging the committee to something different than it's doing now what it does now is rewards the best academic performance to some extent. Not totally you know. There's some wiggle room there. But i think his point is is well taken. I i just wanna add would not give it to thomas friedman. But even if we broaden it and i think your basic point. Which is i'm gonna phrase way you might not like i. I think our profession tries to be like physics. I think it ought to be more like history. History doesn't pretend to answer the question of what really caused the civil war but we learned something from studying the history of the civil war just not an answer so maybe instead of the journal of replication that you start maybe should. Instead start the journal of half finished ideas or half disease or incomplete imperfect journal via reproducible. Results the journal of maybe true results. Yeah yeah i mean. It's the history analogy interesting one because history tackles big problems. And but history. Economists could not be more different. Yeah because history. The nature of a great piece of history is that focuses very much on idiosyncrasies on on narrow institutions on the particular identities of the people involved and nothing could be more antithetical to economic especially chicago economics. Then the idea that you know that that your tool should be used to describe exactly one moment in time going back to our joint mentor becker. Gary becker gary basically believe that a good economic theory applied everywhere and and in that kind of a world It's it's It's harder to to necessarily go and say you know. Why did china succeed. Because why china's succeeded probably has a lot of idiosyncrasy a lot of history a lot of particular laws that change at the right time or a particular entrepreneur and look. I think that doesn't fit well into how we describe economics right now but i look i agree i i worry i worry. That economics is going the way of sociology anthropology. In the sense that we are losing focus on important questions and fundamental truths of Being able to provide guidance that we're getting caught up in a lot of self referential pursuit of complicated models Certainly that was complaint that was very fairly lodged against macroeconomics after the financial crisis But i think it's increasingly becoming true in macroeconomics as well. And i think that the i think in my own view is less and less of what academics are doing has a policy relevant That is should and is going to influence How real good made in part. I think it's because it's too easy. Because when you know when i'm a little bit younger than you not much but when i came into the profession thirty years ago it was at the cusp of new data sets new techniques like natural experiments And the you know and and it was a little bit hard to go and get data and apollo data and try to make some reasonable causal inferences from it and so there were academic rewards doing it because it was a scarce talented. It was heart now. That talent is scarce. Now there's a cookie cutter recipe for taking a data looking at a law change or some other natural experiment and getting a result. So there's no academic reward to it so people move onto things where there is an academic award like buildinga complicated structural model that has dynamic optimization in it and and so so there's not a lot of effort that's devoted to doing simple things that are useful parameter estimation because it will keep you up and i it's incentives. I don't fault anyone for not doing it when i write those papers myself. I can't myself. I can't get them published in so So i write them sometimes just for the pure joy of of knowing but for people who need to be published All the incentives are pushing in a direction that i think is making economics less reverend. So that's a good segue man. I think i don't want to be too harsh psych a psychiatrist or therapist but you know to some extent you're there is a self reflection there about the nature of your own work you know in terms of the scope a bit. You did some unbelievably clever and provocative takes on small issues or sumo wrestlers cheaters. It's fascinating it's fun to think about to not at the heart of the good society or the good life and yet in recent years you you've got some kind of change your heart we're going to talk about your podcast in a minute called people i mostly admire but as part of that What i sense is a transition where you you started A center at the university of chicago. radical innovation for social change our. Risc risk. and you're trying to look at big pictures and find relatively simple solutions. And i want to talk about a couple a couple of those. Because they're they're so interesting Let's start with Monitoring criminals sure so Sorry i think you're right. The my my approach to academics was purely self interested. I did stuff. That was fun and And i've really was incredibly lucky that the the discipline accepted me and published my papers in journals and got accolades but it's also true. So what happened over. Time academics stopped being fun. Being fun for me in part because i think the the discipline kinda passed me by it's different discipline now and in values different things and what had values. I don't value but the other thing that was disturbing a little bit to me. Was that all the success that we had with freakonomics in popularization and all had within regular academic channels. I honestly think it's fair to say that. I have not directly affected in a in a positive way any public policy anywhere. I mean the the the closest we came as governor night. it's something on drunk walking and We just showed that drunk walking was like per mile something like ten times more dangerous than drunk driving and and that led a town in in alaska to to debate whether they should pass a law. Making it a misdemeanor to walk drunk in that town which failed okay. So it didn't even get past but that was the closest. I think i'm can ever say to coming to actually having a law. Put into place so i just reflected on that and look. I'm not against just having fun and the consumption value economics. And after i've taught students and maybe had some benefit there but but as i've gotten older For me now again. It's just more fun to think about how to affect the real world and and could we not have some impact. So i started the center risk. It's kind of the bottom. Line of risk is I looked at the incentives being faced by by a lot of different folks around social issues whether it's the government whether it's academics whether it's nonprofits and i think all of those three groups all had a little bit ahead had the right incentives and also corporations have the wrong set of private for profit. Animal going the exact details of why i think they have incentives by send nonprofits. What's clear to me. Having talked to many people in charge of and working nonprofits is that not only they wanna make the world a better place. They want to be liked along the way. So you know. The big philanthropists are deeply concerned about their image in their perception. They are more often than not philanthropists because they want to be popular and they wanna be justified. So i thought i don't care if people like me so how about we try to carve out a different space. Which is we're going to try to find problems so the problems that haven't been solved. The big social problems are solved. Either because there are too hard or because they're not that hard but the answers are really unpopular so nobody with any common sense would actually go out and try to do it. So the electronic monitoring one is a really good ones. I've studied crime academically for for thirty years. And i know a lot about karma. Thought about and i am convinced that there's a very simple technological approach which could have the biggest impact of any crime policy of the last fifty or a hundred years which is simply to to to use. Gps technology and other technologies is going forward but the easy ones On people who are under the jurisdiction of the criminal justice system super simple idea. The the idea is that if you if someone is being monitored in this way to you know where they are at all times We can cross reference their locations with existing databases on say we're shots are fired or crimes committed and it creates a tremendous deterrent effect to committing crimes k. And what we've seen empirically. Is that if you put people on these. These bracelets that have. Gps virtually no crime. Okay now so far. I'm sure everyone listening. Oh my god big brother years awful person. Okay so okay. So but here's the thing. All right steve day. Who's who's gonna wear days make that clearer. Who's who's gonna wear seeing you. So i i'm personally totally against that. Hey but but that's not the plan. The plan would be for instance that people who are in prison right now would be offered a deal. If you wanna be let out of prison. Two years early in return for wearing a bracelet. Say for four years. Well let shot a prison two years early if you commit crime. We're going to put those two years of your of your sentence. That are deferred. We'll put it back on so this would be completely voluntary in that sense that anyone who have the option of either doing doing their full full sentence or being released early. Another place where we're using it right now. It's actually on people on pretrial release so these are people in cook county. Who would like to be in the cook. County jail awaiting trial But but they're remanded on to house arrest and giving these bracelets so in some sense. That group is a little different. Because it's not really. I mean they have a choice. Everyone who's who's wearing this say has a choice of being a cook county jail if they would want to be many of them might be out on bracelets without. Gps technology absent the technology and so for them. They may there might be a third option. That will no longer be to them because this technology exists. Okay but but the basic idea is really important. Is that the reason we lock people up by and large is because we fear the crimes they will do if they're not locked up. Okay so we. There's an enormous a if you really knew that people weren't gonna commit crimes you played. Hold some of them in prison as some kind of retribution. For mistakes they've made or whatnot but but by and large we would have a much more prison population. If we didn't fear that the people who are imprisoned are recidivists and and and a virtual offenders so the whole thing becomes virtual sorry virtuous circle in which if you put technology on folks that make them not do crimes. Then you don't have to lock people up and simple back of the envelope calculations we've done suggests that done really well. This could reduce the amount of violent crime in society by twenty-five percent at the same time that we do some prison population by twenty five percent and save. A lot of this is an idea. Save money it's good for everybody right to only the it's really is good for everybody. It's good for government saving money. It's good for society because crime has gone down. It's good for the people who are not locked up for most of the people were getting a lot of crimes Crime has does not pay. It's a bad set of choices and the commitment divisive knowing that if i commit a crime. I'm actually going to get locked up again. Is is actually worked to the benefit of the people who otherwise would be committing crimes. But i'm sure. I in in this one two minute. Version of it. I've done terrible. Explain it which is actually useful for our purposes because almost everyone listening right now is probably saying. This is an awful idea. Okay you say whatever like for one hundred different reasons often idea but the simple fact is that if if we can pull this off okay right now. We're doing and cook county. We're having awesome results in cook county. That people are gonna eventually realize that is poorly explained it. This is a really powerful idea. And this is a good thing for society and it's not big brother in a bad way. It's it's it's using technology in a really effective way. That's good for everybody. Okay but no nonprofit would ever of touches idea and you know. It's the only reason we're kind of making any headway. Is that the cook county sheriff. Tom dart is brilliant and thoughtful and willing to take chances that other people won't and so we've been able to you know get get these bracelets on fifteen hundred people more than anywhere else in the country and the results are really good and how. How lucky did we happen to be that. The timing was such that the one hot spot for covid in america. We're so cook county jail but we had these bracelets available so that the sheriff's office did an amazing job of doing so many things but one of them was having the option to use these bracelets to get people out of jail and it turned out already to pay enormous social dividends. That's kinda the gist of what we're trying to take hard problems and to take a kind of chicago. Hard nose. look whatever it takes thoughtful approach to solving them and not worry about You know not worry about short term repercussions and criticisms and really be thinking about in the long run is going to give us an important when you describe it. I find kind of creepy to however it it's an classic example. I think of many policy suggestions or be able to go. I don't like that. And i always say well compared to what you mean. 'cause you gotta remember that the alternative isn't not having the alternative. Is the us prison system which is pretty horrific on many different dimensions. Which we don't need to go into. But i think the general point about policy improvements. It's so hard for people to you know you know. One of my favorite examples is this could be the drug war You know. I think drugs should be legal minds. Not just recreational drugs but pharmaceutical drugs. I think i don't like the fda think it should be up to personal people's choices. And i think we should treat people grownups. We should subsidize them either. By the way it's other little side note but we allow third party nonprofits to pay for them when we think people can't afford them for pharmaceuticals. We have a lot of things to add to the story. But just just take the basic claim. When i say we should end the drug war but but people say it'd be drug use drug uses terrible. Well yeah stop great for some people. They make mistakes but how about the last forty years of people being killed in the street and the corruption of the police department. And gosh does that count for something in the calculus should so you know. I think people often use nirvana. You know herald dumpsites talked about this the nirvana fallacy. It's like oh. I have in mind a world where where the people running the program are. Angels not not human beings. That's my policy solution. And that solution not available folks so you can be pregnant. You can stand on principle you know as a as a first amendment person. I don't like this some aspect of this. Or i do think there's a surveillance worry here that it could spread and be lead to technology. That might be dangerous for tyranny. Those are legitimate questions. But if you're just going to talk about whether it works. Don't just tell me everything that's bad about it. And other things that are bad about the status quo and brand absolutely. Yeah i mean so the critics so a lot of a of more left leaning ngos that i've approached about this become apoplectic. And they say this is such an invasion of privacy and to your point. I say the prison compared to prison like know like freedom and literally. Yeah it is and But it's but it's but it doesn't hold it. It's exactly your point about this nirvana and but you know one thing that i i believe without a lot of evidence there to piece of it. One thing i know for sure is that ideas are not enough to win the day. So you know. So if if as an academic i go to a group and say hey this would be a great idea to do. I have been doing that for three years. Then many ideas may have been terrible. But i think some of them have been okay. None of them get adopted. And so really what. I hope that my wrist center can do is to take this. Intermediate stage that entrepreneurs do all the time which is to go from idea to approve of concept so we can go do this and cook county and we'll put this on three thousand people eventually and we'll show that actually they don't commit very much crime at all and it helps them show up. You know we have ways to contact them so we can see if they're not going their their their their Trial appointment their trial dates and we can remind them and tell them that we can do lots of things that would show that actually saved a bunch of money and they were happy. I mean that's the kind of thing that we're hoping we can do. I not my goal to build a company or nonprofit that is producing a million ankle bracelets to try to deal with the debris but but my hope is that by doing this It become easy. Turnkey that that the next The the new york city the new york city new york state would say hey. This worked cook county. It's easy to adopt. We've got open source software where we've developed now that we can give to. Anyone who wants to us uses technology. So that's what we're trying to do and And what's interesting is. This is a great case where it is totally obvious this big idea. It's like completely clear like if you really think about it how is it you know how that our criminal justice system which has jurisdiction over the lives of you know a million people out on the streets doesn't know where they are when cell phone technologies out there and so it's obvious to do but it's one of those things where it's just you know. It just hasn't happened. There's been you know been twentyish happen. And there's not there's just no thrust even pushing there so that's that's kind of the best of what we hope to do. At at my center called risk. I love the startup mindset. I love the recognition that packaging matters marketing matters. It's not irrelevant. I think of so many academics who told me about their great idea. I'm thinking you can't even explain it to me an economist. And you think you're going to get some bureaucrat. or or senator to get behind it. You've got to be simple. It's got i mean that's one of the reasons i think milton. Friedman was such an incredible policy entrepreneur. He was a great explainer first of all. He's a great teacher but more than that he figured out policy interventions. The volunteer army would be an example aboukir for schools that there were flawed. They were imperfect we might prefer something else to them but the recent got any traction at all was that he could explain it. And then you could explain to your neighbors. I what do you think. And i think. So many of our colleagues who want to change the world Neglect that little tiny piece. I can't understand. You talked to a lot. More economists in a in an interview and kind of way i have but what is shocked me as all the kind of talk to now very ticket in talking about many things. The one exception is their own research when they talk about their own research. It makes no sense. And i know the research so i try to rephrase it in a much more straightforward way. And then they usually arguing. No no that's not quite right because it leaves out this one tiny element. But it's it's interesting. Have you found that you've interviewed. That's a fascinating question. That economists are worst at talking about their own actual research. I would say that that way. But because i don't delve deeply into the research nuts and bolts. Maybe not not the right question for me but it reminds me of something. That's i think that there's deep insight there which is the following. If you read something in the paper about something you know about You have a hobby not not economics research. You have a hobby and you read an article in the paper about you realize. Oh my gosh about how we believe how we act in this hobby or how how. We actually actually do the thing that we're talking about. Oh it's awful you know. It's the way. I think a bill belichick when he reads articles about the patriots and the even in sophisticated publication. He must he does read them. Obviously you know. And that's why he finds questions coach patriots those at home. No no him. He's not very tolerant of ignorant questions. And i think probably all questions are pretty ignorant to him. You know he kind of has such a deeper understanding so the idea of him reading an article about what the patriots ought to do. This week is just is ludicrous. So when you. And i read an article in the newspaper about something we always like. Wow boy they really got this. Not just it's it's superficial. They're their mistakes in it and then somebody has. The occasionally has the that. Wait a minute that might be true of everything there right now. What and so when. I'm thinking of though. Is when when an academic talks about their own work. They're writing The way they would critique of newspapers summary of their nobel prize. It's like you're missing all the subtlety the depth. Oh you gotta add this caveat. It's why in general. Academics are not good communicators because they believe in caveats that's the essence of the of are often what we do in in so called science. We have to say but and remember this and so if you leave that out in your summary of their work. They're going there no no. That's not what i meant. Because it's so much richer and deeper than that. And i think that's that phenomenon they know too much about their own wor- it's not that they're bad communicators necessarily because as you said they could be good communicators about someone else's work but about their own work you know it's kind of like saying How would you rank your Your oldest child on a scale of one to ten. Oh wait a minute. I can't do too much A sixty page essay about. What's special about my child because 'cause there's a lot of nuance there and i think that's i think that's what's going on there. Yeah let's let's close about talk about your podcast. It's called people. I mostly admire the word mostly Could be interpreted in two different ways there So how do you mean it. You mean it both ways. I mean both of those actually I because I am interviewing people. I do mostly mostly. I'm interviewing people admire people that i mostly admire them. That i'm interviewing It's kinda different than what so. You've done an amazing public service by being so many economists into the you know the before lean people give people an audience. I think locked in my left now. You're good okay okay. Sorry i'm just show. I'm just so stunned by the air. It looked like i was frozen. Oh keep going. I'm trying to keep great face. Appreciate the kind words. Yeah so you. So you've done a real public service by so many chances talking. I'm actually trying to do something slightly different. Which is. I'm not really an economics. Podcast in the usual sense. I'm trying to to talk to a very broad group of people. People who are who are innovative who are rule breakers who are trying to do the right thing who maybe have quirks about them and to and in my own weird way reflecting my own weirdness of how i think about the world to to try to have fun smart conversations and So but i honestly put the word mostly in because Because i wanted to be able to interview. Everyone and i didn't want including some people who i think might be horrendous. I haven't interviewed anyone. So far who's But but partly i called you know we call it that because look it's the whole thing is a little bit tongue in cheek. I mean my whole mars. Ethos is about having fun and whatnot and and the idea someone suggested like what we call people you i admire and i'm like well that's like really earnest and that's not really the spirit of what freakonomics is trying to do. But but it's been it's fun. I mean you have a lot of experience interviewing. I always surprised at how hard interviewing is compared to being interviewed being interviewed. Whatever blah blah blah. Whatever i say oh stupid. Whatever no one will been. But there's something i feel. A real obligation is an interview. I feel as an interviewer so know kind of good to do new things as you get older and and for me. The the deep research. They're very you know people this the psychological concept of flow where you've really like work really hard at something and become completely immersed in it. I don't have that very much In what i do interesting. The preparation for my interviews is very much a flow state for me. Become extremely focused in a way that i have and i study what people have done in the past in a way that i don't usually and And it's somehow the intensity to it. I found to be a really surpri. I hadn't expected it. But it's been flows both good and bad. I mean flows kind of enjoyable. The other flows like very intense. And you know and tiring but so that's what we're doing it's been it's an experiment. Appreciate the kind words. I you know i. I have given a platform to a lot of economists. But like you i feel like i find our profession a lot less interesting than i did five years ago. So i'm interviewing many fewer economists. You are my exception. In many ways or about traditionally economist as you one could get but you've also gone in the nontraditional direction and for awhile so I'm appreciate the compliment. But i also appreciate the recognition that this saw it could be a hard job in the prep is Is fascinating because i tried to. Do i try to do this. I try to think about a narrative arc for the conversation you know. There's a tension between leading the conversation. Go where it might go and be spontaneous which people like enjoy. It's like fun. But i also had this sort of not sort of. I have this educational agenda. I want your ideas to get out in the world. And and i wanna react to them and let listeners hear that conversation and learn from it and so i haven't are before i get started of where it's going to go in doesn't always go there but at any moment i'm constantly trying to decide whether i should pull it back and you listen to this conversation could hear me say that. Oh we'll get to that later. Because i've been back in my mind i've got the whole thing mapped out but not literally not literally gonna just ask question after question because i needed stay. Certain there's certain flow in this back and forth if it goes well which is really special right and romans when you feel it and let's let's I want to close with With the question that that you have asked a number of your guests which shah is a question. I increasingly think about which is what advice. Do you have for the good life How to live well and That's a question that used to be at the center of university education that used to be at the center of what we once called without. Shame western civilization now. You're not supposed to say that. Without shame but i say without chain is he gets the central question of of human human existence. I think it's the central question of than any person needs to confront as they at least as they grow up and it may not happen till they're in their older years but It's hard to think of when you're younger. But i think that's the central question. I'm curious what you may have learned in asking that question and what you yourself think is where you what you've learned in a in heading toward an answer to that question yet. Let me back off one one. Which is i think it's something society to society could do an education that would make it easier for people to live good lives and so I didn't tear one of those is i think we. I think we make a real mistake in an educational system by not giving Mental health topics A place in our curriculum. So things like Everything from you know how to deal with trauma to be what you may call mindfulness or something to thinking about how conflict resolution i mean. It's just a bunch of stuff that for whatever reason. We don't think of it as things that schools could because they can't do them well. But but if i think about the practical things that students that kids could be taught that would make their lives. Better it seemed to me that's right at the forefront and i think it's only historical accident that we teach them things in school so i think society owes its we society owed to our next generation to start doing now complete on the flip side. I think it's the same data. So i think they completely like seems but like i think i think society owes it to a next generation of students to teach them highly. Think about data and use data can steer show important. I think so. I think our schools are failing on these two completely different dimensions. Which is that by the archaic curriculum where teaching Is teaching kids. How to function in the real world and function the real world number-one these like mental health tools. I think could be really powerful and number two. I think date is just so important and and it's like crazy that what we teach in math class and when we could be teaching kids sort of the rudiments of day can have real disaster. Can i comment on that jury. Go to the next point which is I want my first mindfulness meditation retreat. When i was i think sixty waited a little late It it was transformative in many ways and and It is a challenge to teach that well. I think it's taught badly in many settings. So i think that is part of the problem but teaching people to be self aware about their own psychological quirks. I was prepared for the psychotherapeutic part of the retreat which was embedded in the silence of that retreat. And i think it's incredibly powerful and it's part of going back to western civilization and The unexamined life is not worth living is said socrates and he was onto something On on the air on the question data My wife's A high school math teacher and when she is come home and told me how much testing they've put into the curriculum. And how much is being put into curricula elsewhere around the country. It's kind of frightening. So i'm very sympathetic. I think it's incredibly important. We teach young people about uncertainty and risk and how to think about data in that context the work of of Assume nicholas taalab comes to mind. Someone who i think is certainly helped me think about risk in a way that i was not able to do despite a phd in economics and i think those basics fundamental ideas are very powerful but unfortunately what actually happens when we say. Teach people about date. It's like oh great. Well let's teach them what the mean is and we'll show them how to do run regression using the statistics package. And you know it's like saying people should learn about how to deal with money that's gonna get well. Let's have a stock market contest to that. That's the last thing you wanna do anyway. So i just wanted to react to that you can react to that back or you can move on the good life if you like. No look. I think both i agree. It might not be easy to do data or or come but but the punt on it or to do what we're doing now just seems like a. Let's go back to one individual so i mean life is an arc and i have a i have a few simple things said i believe to be true And one of them is i. I really believe based partly on data that people get stuck in the status quo bias. Too much that people don't make changes they should and and that simple advice i give to everyone. Wh is that if you really are stuck if for like a month you've been like you wake up in the morning and you asked yourself. God i i really feel like i should end this relationship practice. Quit my job and months at a time in. You just can't pull the trigger almost for sure the right answers. You should pull the trigger. And i've done actually a randomized experiment. Where i had people flip coins over it and And i think it just it just in both. The data and intuitive story makes sense. Which is that a lot of the costs of change are upfront and many of us are hyperbolic. Discounter is or our fear change. But so i think one good rule for limited life is that if you really stuck that To to have faith that making the big change is likely to be the right path. Right course the The other thing. That as i've gotten older i've come to understand is that life is long not short. I i was always in a hurry. I think and i always feared that if i took a step off the path that it would be a it would be disastrous. But i've looked at so many people who are wildly successful and it's often the steps off the path i think that had been the key to their eventual success and in and the way they go and and so i kind of you know i. I'm much more tolerant with myself and with others of not being in a hurry of you know like you know i got my phd in three years. Which wasn't a good thing or a bad thing. I did it but like that was the goal was i wanted to get stuff done. And i think that there's A useful mistake that. I think but i think you were going to react to something but now now gone and what else you know and i still thinks i've always believed that it's really important to have fun and to do what you like along the way but but i also think that people need to be realistic about that. That most of the time you know doing the thing you love doesn't lead anywhere particularly good in mostly where at least there's not loving that thing anymore by the time you've done it for a couple years and that's the part about going slow which i think is okay right so i think it's okay to say look i like nothing more to be a rockstar and then to go and try and be a rock. Of course you're not going to be successful because no one successful. You know with a few exceptions. That's where if you have if you listen to my other advice which is look when you're not sure if she'd director anymore you gotta stop being a rockstar where you really hurt yourself you start being rockstar and then you never stop trying to be a rock star even though the writing the wall a longtime before that and then the last thing i would say which is something that i've always tried to do but much more so now than before just human. I think there's a lot of value in human decency in being able to just try to be nice to people and doing the right thing and not not necessarily even because it's good for other people but just because it's just easier to live your life if you kinda have of rule where you try and be nice to people and you give people benefit of the doubt and stuff. They'll have just found it. Easier beaded jerks hard work. It takes a lot of time and effort and but just trying to be thoughtful. And still you say no. I'd say no two people one hundred times a day but air on the side of Offering a compliment. When i can or or telling people when i think they've done something well and to me that's You know trying to help out. Somebody young when i don't have to. I'm not personally. I get a lot of satisfaction from it. I guess today has been steven. Levitt steve thanks for being part of econ. Talk thank you. This is econ- talk part of the library of economics and liberty for maury contact econ talk dot org or you can also comment on today's podcast and find links and readings religious. Today's conversation the sound engineer free. Come talk is rich go yet. I'm your host russ roberts. Thanks for listening. Talk to you on monday.
Gun and Gear Review Podcast Episode 289- FFP G17 slide, STI Staccato, CZ 1012, Henry Garden Gun
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What did you guys do and firearms because Chad here wrote some reviews and did yard work on long weekends so over the weekend Labor Day weekend I took advantage of some of the sales picked up some nine caught that on sale pickups and parts and just an honest perspective I'm your host Chad Wallace from the Firearms Radio Network Your source for all things firearms related and this show we will be discussing freedom flags slide review some Staccato pistol Ceesay shotgun and a garden gun and tonight on the podcast we have Zane Tony and eventually Nice Nice Hazy I do have a question for you though did you did you see the post that I reposted for those I don't know if it didn't come close enough this year I guess that means last year he scared it off I definitely you know they actually did release like the really care what you think join these men on their quest to bring you the good the bad and the ugly that the Marie eighties will slides complete I did okay just making sure go the Paula made cody and he is here because he has sean fishers favorite fan and since Shawn's never here we decided that we'd like Cody Phil informed tonight so Timber Creek Timber Creek picked up a cool bayonet for my high eight seventy shotgun because I got I got one from the US ed two hundred eighty nine on this show showcase gun reviews gear and anything else again enthusiasts maybe looking for we strive to evaluate products from unbiased government actually released a a thing urge like asking people not to shoot a hurricane like they had to legitimately do that get much accomplished because I've been dealing with a hurricane so I did order a belt a gun belt that's kind of cool was it was complete polymer eighty percent frame slide barrel all the parts everything you needed basically I think there were like four hundred bucks three ninety nine I bought a third for something I can't remember what it was Oh yeah and I picked up in a are from Palmetto state it's going to be a giveaway at the Patriots Subscriber Ohio National Guard to take sustained bayonet the M sixteen did back in the day so I was able to catch that because it's on sale for half price sportsman's guy which was awesome and and three choices of the lead delivery Patch so they got those and then the patch of the month of course is Libertas and so you in new patches for preorder out which is one hundred percent pro gun they got the eighties boombox patch and yeah the views and opinions expressed in this podcast of those of the Individual Co host and do not reflect the official policy or position of the Firearms Radio Network Ninety Nine or something nine pretty good deal yeah it's a pretty good deal if you if you don't suck building eighty percents and or their employers this is not legal advice nor should it be considered dispatch viewer discretion is advised this is especially chew on go yeah this was oh where was it jazz do you supply or something I've met the guy he's at shot show he had I think Labor Day sale well Hilton the streets kilts everywhere by them groundhog's probably okay well now that you found out that awesome especially some of the folks that are that are not fitting my same building category of being a person according to the rest of the interwebs the is on use our affiliate link firms radio DOT TV slash Amazon. I guess we should have a disclaimer today Tony Tony's got through two of them this week and between doing this and doing that and so we have another glock slide because hey why not this okay so true yes so true well and like we said in the beginning I do have a review for you guys amazing I know I actually is aged seventeen slide it is from freedom flag products they are in Nevada if that helps you locate them that's like the whole Lgbtq community that I work with along with anybody who is wake quote unquote then on top of that I also finally got out my it does two guys did more than than I combined we'll we'll get into the announcements bandwidth sponsor is our buddies over Patriot patch co They have some drill press ten dribble talking to Florida Man. I'm sorry all right we're really don't have trouble you just put cinderblocks under your rear rest of the slide it has kind of I don't know what did I call a mathematical shaped recesses kind of cut in now I didn't mention in the review but like there's good pictures and article of course on the Firearms Insider Dot TV This is not cut for a Armar or anything else I purposely live shows when these idiots talk if you think I'm giving you legal advice boy or you're listening to the wrong he's front ones actually lineup with the cutouts in the front where there's two angled cuts there's three little slot and shoot the hurricane loser and had it didn't come close enough income close enough this year has coached the user reduce loads has two slots also cut in it you know you could probably put a compensated barrel in it would probably would work I don't know for sure but it looks like it probably would It when they ask I I was like now I actually want without an optics cut you know if you haven't heard of them you know maybe go look them up Dade I definitely want to Walmart Walmart ammo did you do anything cool cody did a couple of things always working at the on the activism side and got a couple of CO workers agree to go the range with me which conceded have it by whatever joined the bachelor month club it's Lady Liberty Brass knuckles etc etc so if you want told Russ over there at Nevada Surco that I had a grey frame and he's like okay and they freedom flag sent over what they call tracks down did not find any machining marks except where they should be which is in any way really that you can see literally there might be some inside glocks lied but it's not the typical glocks light it's got some like oblong straight up and down cuts here at the rear for caulking rations a AK47 The Jen I'm I'm excited because that thing actually runs like a selling machine surprises waiting for it to blow my face but I wasn't gonNa take a completely apart you know put the slide parts kit in it I think I bought it brown els would be my guess all and why people would do that as you would probably expect from somebody making these slides the machining is spot on I looked at over left and right and upset I I didn't even notice it for quite a while and then when I did I I was like is this supposed to be there because I couldn't quite tell and they're like no and they pretty much demanded I send it back I'm like checkout fire of video content you can go to gun streamers you know set up an account if you want to put your own stuff on there that I think they'll let pretty much anybody and if you humping Amer dovetail is spot on side slut Stab La can't speak today the rear sight slid in fine little snug you know no problems Dr frontside seemed a little loose and but I remember looking at these specs for the slot slotted whole that the Glock frontside shoes did do a collaboration on this slide with Nevada and Nevada Erica did the camera job on it for both of them when they asked is it each one of them I think maybe on the nineteen slides there's too but I don't know for sure then there is a diamond shape kind of cut on the top and basically that's why the review took so long because I got one and they wanted to back you know I it had a tiny tool mark in these little angled cuts their website so if you don't like this style k. choose something else they also offer an arm Arca for fifty bucks more which you know I can understand like I said I told him to surprise me they didn't let me down they did a four color gray black ammo looks amazing colors blended well you can like run your fingernail over I'm okay with it but they wanted it back to make it right I'm like okay so I sent it back you know hey net we're onto this one So and they were they were it is for Jim Three frames I have it on a polymer eighty We were discussing before the show Zane can't seem to drill holes and what model Sarah Code I wanted I left it up to both of them so we got this particular slide and the coat of course the great cam I just I don't know if it's a new one or the same one I suspect it's a new one I it's not like I am side by side to compare now the rear sight cut all the parts went in great everything works moves butter zero problems there I will say this is the second slide that they have sent me yeah it's not what the Internet says exactly Internet Internet says this thing was going to like a balloon out like our foot you can't feel any any like where one sticking up higher than the other you know they did a really good job on it also it's it's tight super smooth I it's you know you can't really see it in videos but you can't even really move it side to side the dribble to also but I can which is nice you can get five this is one of their standard cuts they have five more different standard I'd just a tiny bit it's super smooth when you rack the slide when I first installed of course because it was tight you would get to about don't need enough NFL to have it sent to so I'll get back to the track style slide it's actually I really like it on my polymer eighty I per- eggs Jeez this slide now probably has probably six hundred rounds through it which may seem like a lot or may not seem like much but asleep bought a G. Seventeen bomber eighty to put their first light on and of course there it is and this this particular slide is super been in and out of the holster a few quite a few times actually and it hasn't worn yet one of my other slides war little on the little corners but this one is when I was looking at the prices they don't really seem that astronomical compared to everybody else they're right in the ballpark so you know hey if you want something coated go check him out ought you know and like I said Nevada cercas pretty big in the market they do all kinds of Sarah coat for large name companies that show stuff You know I did find something because it is a block you slide the track slide fits I have a couple of holsters if it's in both ah I I don't think I've had any problems with ammo feeding ammo function anything like that with this using factor Glock mags or the MAG You know right before it goes into battery and it would stop doesn't do that anymore after about fifty rounds that stopped I did use it has I measured it and it was within the suspect o'clock has so I think it might have been this front sight you could move it left to right kind of twist it a little bit when I was putting it on but especially like I I believe if you get a polymer eighty eighty percent or you can have if you don't machine at first you can have them do the whole thing and then uh-huh at shot show I know they've done builder sets for Arrow precision you know their factory trained certified and they do do a good job they've let's tried the old school one did you cut and have Zane I feel like I feel brought over to drill for us and put like nine holes in it l. it's their track style slide it I'll go to explain it here in a second it's Ki- it's a little difficult to describe you know it's square like e implant sides or Sarah coded usually just one color this one they sent to Nevada Erico because this is kind of a Combo you know review slide for their glock or glock style pistol the features and benefits this is the track style it is designed for Gen three guns it will not fit in for match-quality quality match barrel it is one hundred percent made in the USA it is compatible with polymer eighty frames as you can see it is tested for fun being from forty one fifty barrel steel the day manufacturer tighter tolerances for the barrel lock-up says accuracy will be greatly increased with the one is actually a polymer eighty seventeen size holster and one is actually a one for a polymer eighty nineteen size it's just opened at the slide that we've talked about on the podcast before that basically takes a nineteen frame and converts it to a seventeen length slide it's a slow shen other options Keller's special colors though other versions of the slide you can buy there is a link to a review so I'll get into the farms insider achey points claim to fame fully machined Glock Gen three slide with surrogate target market I guess anybody wanting a unique quality hundred and fifty bucks I'm like okay sounds good to me you know so four hundred bucks for custom slide paint job and a custom slide sounds pretty reasonable to me so it is Sarasota Optional Laser etching engraving it has tighter tolerance increase accuracy reliability performance they machine the whole thing gene air ten products muzzle brake stuff like that so you know go check these guys out freedom flag products Nevada haircut they both do good jobs it you know who knows and it's with inspect so you can't really say much but all in all they do an excellent machining job you know and as I mentioned all of free the facts in barrel in it Kinda Nice the gold goes nicely with of course you could get any other color facts and let's see where I autumn so it fits and it worked fine they're also so if you're in the market for Glock slide freedom flag does do a nice job so you should check them out they also make us you need it now pretty much freedom flag or Nevada's Erica and our rating pros tights slide to frame fit good barrel lock up custom finish it is a unique ha you got that was coming seventy seven shy tack micro yeah right who and what somebody's saying about it price point standard slides are to forty nine ninety nine this one is four hundred as tested because lied kind of like some of the other companies do that so you get the g seventeen length with one thousand nine hundred aim they are also they make some ar fifteen I actually have a good idea of and you know to me yeah it's not that many to some people like you said it might be a lot well I'm not some people so of them it was really tight and till I loosened that set the tension screw and then they would go in fine I think it's because of the square you know that's what it's got on it so and it still works fine still is not you know loose anything like that testament to the slide barrel fit all of that as I always do to see how much it costs and pretty much is still cheaper than even buying a complete everything from we know there's more expensive slides out there for strip slides so you know and I'll attest to the quality of them I mean it's you know it's it's a nice slide the four-color Cammo is about one hundred and fifty bucks They do three Colored Cammo for one hundred twenty four slides this is four color so when I asked him they said yes really apologetic about it they're like man I don't know what happened I'm surprised nobody caught it and let's why it said they demanded back pretty much they're like here's a call today have completes also for like Ninety Nine Bucks which serial numbers on them the people who live in states like mine I got a friend a great frame sitting here other companies there that's the thing is they're they're right in the middle of where I mean there really were they should be I mean there are some less expensive slides out there a lot and I'm like well our basic class it's two hundred rounds a basic handgun classes two hundred rounds heck even our nra what basic pissed titan ended up going hey how much further a to blast shield I was looking at the practice because you said it's a complete you said complete slide for like two seventy the hit the gas pedal look like I'm just waiting for a police back so I can take a minute hey this is the fire five hundred rounds will at least tell me if it's you know getting to work good or you know couple of hundred rounds if it's giving you problems you're GonNa dip and Zayn the cons the holster fit because it's square and it does not have forward cocking situations not that that's a huge problem for me but for somebody apple might be so I gave it a score of eight and a half which is great and I'm sure somebody's going to have a question about it so while I was checking out there it's easy yeah and that's the thing is you know it's because like I said I mean the first one went back I don't know how many rounds I had on it and this one and so it put a little line where it was speeding and they moved it is what it looked like I wasn't up by the front line yeah it was it was like it literally looked shred the friend it seemed like it was kind of dragon when I tighten them up other than that you know it hasn't worn the edges off like I said so if it into the holsters it's always a good thing to know that they've put no effort into it I put that you put that yeah also I think they just test them for function so I'm guessing a couple rounds MS RPM nineteen ninety nine to twenty four ninety nine and let me go through this it's you know sti international if you didn't know the Staccato p. four points that's kind of how I feel but each their own I mean sometimes I even had a experience for the thirty nine two and that thing I found out but who knows they probably fire magazine through it I didn't ask him but they do test them for function so you know they put it on some slide they have there and Bang Bang and yep it works so well I will say this since you said you had a a burger or a milling error if you will or a little crack in the and now now it's two fifty stripped Carl it's like four hundred bucks is tested with Sarah Code on it okay because that's still cheaper what I was doing was looking title is almost at right so you know I mean six around a couple of good rains a few good rains trips or competition or a two day class ten rounds so the fact that they put two hundred throat or even six hundred I mean good on them making sure that it's not it's not gonna jam on you right away because of some weird tolerance for a and I weren't they saying something about they were going to cut it for others also or was that get off stuff let's see it is their tree bark stipple on their frame which is a two thousand eleven frame if you didn't know it is black other it's The frontside is fiber optic the rear is there stealth charger which basically means is kind of got a school a reverse angle cut so you can see yeah right yeah I have no clue I I don't know anybody who's put a lot of rounds through polymer eighty I really didn't even bother looking it up I never had cause I don't care that much but and the trigger it's a four and a half pound does have ambidextrous safety play it see here comes with Darshan precision perfect impact sites questionable questionable right and also it has suppressor height sites so you can co-witness with your optic one five inch bull barrel it's got a diamond like carbon black finish it comes with one flesh fit in one extended magazine like the tool was chipped to me like the mill was chipped but yeah and so there is that I guess now that we're done with that we will get into the product spotlight and some of their other guns it does have a frame it does have a place you can mandalite because it's got a rail it is a full inc dust cover which does not say that so and it's and it's four six hundred rounds I I find it funny because it's not really it's tossup because some people go let's not I five it weighs thirty four ounces or you can get this to copy duo which is twenty four ninety nine and basically it is cut four this is now finally one that is reasonable compared to I think the next cheapest one is like three grand and yeah and the rest you know if it's still cooking along and after you know five thousand rounds which I'm pretty sure it will be out of the ball it is and it's got front and rear cocking situations it is a nineteen eleven style so if you don't like those I find six and around good enough you find out if something sucks yeah I I mean and that's that's kind of I kind of figure you know Dan I'm I've used by the picture okay that's that could be so that's that's a little questionable one way or the other not like bad WPRO arm our and others that use those manning platforms in order to use the Armar though you have to use a plate of the delta point thanks so I'll wait delta point no the Dawson universal optic system designed to work with loophole dealt point no I actually it was when you probably can't see it on here but it was like right down here in the groove and which you can get the great great trigger pull out of them I like it just because I've Shot S. T. is and I really liked the is but you know right there I was just thinking about that because the weather slides are cut reason they probably wanted it back decides hey you're doing review on it is it could have there's a possibility of the front of the slide could have been compromised it has a recall master it's got a slim tactical mag rail and it does have a nineteen thirteen pick any railed frame you can get it in nine or forty what it looked like to me since I know something about machining a little bit it looked like their tool that they used had actually like chipped and so it wasn't completely flat a b Seventeen twenty one and twenty seven or something like that I look up their magazines too but how much nine millimeter I thought it was soon it oh so you can basically it's it's like a follower spring and base and you can just drop it in the tube so to speak yeah so to screw around with tuning your extractor tuning your mags and doing things this gun was kind of built for law enforcement which means it ain't it ain't and one of the things about their magazines or at least their base plates from what I heard from an interview is that you can they're genuine mags you can still use discussion not reviews spotlight in discussion and I up for our buddies eight and our Buddy Tony we put in the STI Staccato p like nineteen that I could do they have like reasonably priced magazines coming out he wants to spend one hundred and forty dollars for magazine UAE I was like man it's just when I first heard about it I personally think it's just another sti again okay yeah it's a little cheaper than and but everything else is the same you know they wanted me to put this in here I like Sti guns and I guess that's probably amount directly to it instead of a lower because the picture I'm looking at has played in there it looks like that's what they were saying three to screw him with its way out of the box which I really appreciate because the next here a really well built guns nine hundred eleven I should John Wiccan so those are pretty cool and they were race guns this is supposedly the duty gun that has like a four pound trigger so there are guns along with most of the higher in guns for more designed for competition which means that you are kind of all it's assumed that you're going one show strives to bring you what you need here they don't care about your feelings they don't they say that but I know a guy who has an sti not one of the one of their other ones millimeter and he shoots steelcase stuff all the time have an update kit so that way you can keep the increased reliability of the Gen two megs without having to worry about like oh we'll this gen one fit work I looked at they're just well built guns and they shoot really well but when I've been watching everybody else's reviews of them and you could find them you know and they're like ninety nine ninety nine if you found him somewhere on the Internet but yeah they're retail was like one twenty or something offshot much like Chad I've shot Ti's shot their regular generation competition models and then I shot the combat master that talked about the Ammo you have to use you can't use you know the cheapest steelcase Russian steelcase or just bottom of the barrel ammo and I've said over say twenty eleventh whatever you WanNa call double stacked nine hundred eleven you looking at Nighthawk and Wilson prices so you're you're under two thousand over on the show if as expensive as it should be able to eat anything because achieve gun cat that's one of my issues with something like that all of a sudden you job most police department shares parliament's shoot one AMMO and that's what they shoot well then what this this dollars for a good you know nine millimeter nine hundred eleven was so capacity August nineteen it could be coach to a person they've had some issues with them because they have a break in period because you're dealing with tighter tolerances than you do most other guys and also nine millimeter be able to eat anything factory I don't I don't disagree but I think that's less of a concern with this gun just because there was forty forty five dollars for Max yeah which compared to their their other mags are like a hundred over one hundred your money on something and when the poo hits the fan you got to go back to something else because your high end gun won't eat any of it you pick up you know what you know they may they may ed because what I was getting from a couple of them whereas it wouldn't work unless they put like one twenty four and in one hundred twenty four grade this goes design for and like most of confrontation one hundred twenty four grain gold dots training in the third well usually these guns no stage Justin police I mean if you WanNa talk about it the Smith and Wesson it was Kimber Kimber came in yeah yeah when Kimball was in Colorado they did not when Kimberley Kimber was a new company what they had was a bunch of if gunsmith students out there that worked on their guns so all of a sudden you had these beautiful production guns that were just kick in the pants off a colts with the weird because I've been following these things for while down when they were just competition pistols they a lot of that stuff had to be tuned you know triggers but I don't think any of us have a perfect trigger so I this brings it into the affordable category for me when it comes to trying to think who else who then came into the market was it like Springfield I I know Zan's going what were they like this no kimber that's right dependability and accuracy so that that that was that story and what happened Oh so I'm watching what's what's mant Grantham and he's salivating over one of these couldn't just buy it and shoot it like a regular joe these were competition guns needed to be tweaked all the time now they're getting away from that so much and happy art and I was like well how much is this thing and he's like well after everything said and done it was about five thousand dollars I'm like take this gun and get is there guns they shoot well like the very first sti shot was doing my NRA instructor course one of the guys had one and I'm like Oh good one thousand nine hundred eleven type guns like solid performers other stuff you can buy and then have another thousand two thousand dollars worth of duty pistols so I can't wait I hope this thing takes off I hope more people bion because again we're not golden age of firearms development and or forgiving trigger wherever I put some bad input on it it's going to allow me to get away with you know more stuff you got a perfect trigger press it doesn't matter what you billion ownership even though they're trying to end it is freaking awesome that we have this many options I mean back in the day when Chad our kids pretty much it was a cult gold earnings is into the affordable level and apparently have a really good first responder slash middle slash veteran discount on so glocks are coming in priced at right like if you get an agency Glock this about the same price range so why now I'm going to get much better trigger and I'm laughing at him because he's like Oh these are you know it's a double stack ninety I'm like you know double stack nineteen eleven have been around since like eighty three I mean I I'm not exactly I'm not a police either but yeah I'll take one of these they I don't know I worked on and gives it up to that level so this is kind of one stop shopping S. T. is been around for a long time before was something else thinking the company split or something cup that you'd still have to buy in sent out to get a bunch to work onto it jeeze brown nose out of the box okay listen to Steve Fisher lot listening the other guys converse with them and ask about it and this is this is getting into that price range where you get okay I guess I guess you just have to call them get somewhere else but I mean if you search for them you can find twenty eleven because I I wanted to nighthawk and I'm like man up four and a half thousand dollars on a pistol little outrageous this brings this this and by different grip modules so like if this one you can get like fatter ones or smaller ones so if you if it does shoot a semi wad cutter something you'd have to adjust them the handler yeah yeah I yeah I l. carts a screw kit a grim screw kit is is the only part in magazines they only have the flesh fit yeah every time I need need a glass of water to in the morning just hit print in Princeton New Cup was saying two o'clock in the morning is usually drunk and drinking up thank you only so you would you order that and they would send you the frame and then you'd have to source your slide and barrel and all of that and I'm like yeah it's been around is it quite fit your hand their stuff you can do you can buy them with stipple types on them you could buy a red one if you really wanted so nick tech savvy you guys don't have one of those in the bathroom no I I keep it in the garage what are you talking about now I've I've mind shotgun from CDC it is the seat ten twelve shotgun Amazon six fifty nine you know it's Ceesay I don't know when they introduced this but it wasn't too terribly long ago basically it's gas lists it's an inertia operating system like other companies use two hundred fifty bucks or something but you can get them and it's not like you have to fork out another two grand for wondering where you get it replaced it because his Darshan four plus one three inch shells twenty eight inch barrel includes five chokes full improve modified modified improve choke and choke or to run the action which is new for Ceesay let's see if it says anything else right as of right now it only comes in like hunting versions you can get you know the regular the bronze the gray or you can get them with synthetic stocks You know twelve games would take that nonsense over there know what is this coming in priced about what the the the good improve cylinder and cylinder at Turkish Walnut like the poll is fourteen and a half inches you know it's got an eight millimeter flat vent rib it's they seem to work quite well now like like a lot of people in this podcast I think if they made one of these in a like twenty inches record that's one of the things that I actually wanted to touch on before we moved off of this is what the replaceable grips I I know about anybody else but I've broken a set of wood grips toilet both yeah most likely Florida we're we're GonNa get off the Staccato bandwagon now and we're going to move into mm-hmm there's like three pieces like the slide rail peace than the grip is a module itself so you can girl with like extra capacity I think they'd have had a big hit on their hands also but that's just me other than that if you're into sporting shotguns or just is probably point right now no I didn't think so so I do not a huge shock and guy for awhile chief but it's real cute you just discovered it and talking about the I just thought it was funny they do have an advantage they are a modular frame it is but if you break it messed up your dog eats it you can get that replaced and it's not having to send out the entire gun right I mean I think they're like all the time so I mean you know I'm not going search all over the place I was just looking at their site and see if you can get right right but also you just can't go wrong with so I look forward to them coming out with the tactical version or a tactical version they do it with almost everything in theory as well you can get you get somebody else manufacturer grip for it too Yep I'll even three is your text reports on Mir store are you sure I'm looking at it more so holly knows hearts magazines check forty seven inches long but it only weighs six and a half pounds which isn't isn't all that bad for full INC shotgun I thought I'd put this in there because I'm kind of glad they're doing it in a nervous system else theirself from their twenty twos two Yep and even their Bolt Action Rifles Bay they have tactical versions of it so on a hang before and I've also you know cracked a framer to don't ask me how I just have so that's that's one of the things that I found cool is not only can you change yeah I know you're cameras off get off the toilet while you so how's that no kind of shooting trap or clays or something on the side or hunting Docs Sir chuckers or whatever I think it would be a good option for especially at the price yeah I've shot up shot C. C.'s e shotguns the price is just crazy right now buds has it for gun version of this they say they did a five thousand round tests no cleaning no anything just five thousand straight rounds through it and it worked five six I mean that's ridiculous because there's a friction Ceesay I look at these things as they really do need to come out with a defensive it comes to like sporting clays or whatever I agree with you put a twelve inch schlink o n a twenty eight round two on this and anyone earth design of my terrible I don't know put your Tang down and get back to buddy saying can you get off the tin can and did stop running at all this coming in and just kicking the snot out of thirteen o one would be a good thing well go ahead man we could hear you I I like anyone else has a nursing driven gun yeah yeah so I mean two things I had to look up what their initial system was physically like how it worked and it's an IT's like a delayed blowback but with the eighty four Keira had them you know back in the Dave Dave was just a frame kit to start parallel if they didn't come out with a tactical version I would just build my own in that sense like I mean I I mean otherwise for for league this is on the docket I forgot to call them today and actually ask about it I mean you know who knows don't ask don't tell I mean they might be doing it and say sounds well I look forward to them developing this and this being big big huge yeah I think so too cody I think you were going to say something back in the day that obviously had extension tubes and everything but it didn't have a lot of aftermarket support and that's a problem well but now nothing touching the bonaly because everybody's all in love with it because his military issue but I could give a darn especially you got something like this to shoot smoothly and away six pounds compatible with any other other shotguns because if they are I would just swap out the barrel and the stock has you know somewhere along lines they're probably having parts compatibility and yeah I think it's a very interesting thing I'm sure it'll be fine DNC Z.. I don't think we're GONNA have any reliability problems out of it it's questionable then you've got wetherby but their stuff is made in another country and nobody really goes whether it be shotguns winchester again what one and then that's the first firearm that's been imported that I've ever had more accessories built for it three d printed injection molded everything at six fifty nine cut the barrel down cut the stock down through a seal openside on it and if you can get an extension to put that on there L. moving back so for those of us who didn't know that's how that functions which is really cool I'm because I'm a nerd like that the other thing that I would love to know if they're barrel honestly especially with with the tactical marketing is dominated by like you said the Benelli or the Beretta but even in the Hunting World Ah Essex four day out of Japan or Turkey Mossberg Nine thirty dude I was not impressed the only have three or four people that offer a decent semiautomatic shotgun that I'm coming up off my head so I mean that that has a good bob loosen yeah it's only six really good by four nursing driven gone where did you call them from the moon yes they do and it's affordable a subset of light years yeah I think so yeah now you have stuff I'm definitely interested in I like the inertia driven system because I can shoot my reduce recall loads and it will still and actually I just looked to try to find ceesay extension tubes and I don't know work did have competition shotgun in the council the within a single year than anything else I've seen so all the modern communities hit it and took it and ran with over and they're going to do the same thing with the shock on here because nailed it everybody knows about those but you still have you know the Remington put their quality ca eleven eighty seven rats gophers stuff like that close range you don't have to worry about over penetrating anything heck I don't I think you could probably stand right next to two feet away from a wall and shoot shoot the sheet rock and I don't know if it would go through I don't I'm just saying that but you know further except kind of makes sense I mean I've shot I've actually shot gophers with twenty two shot shells when I was a kid because you know if you're it is awesome how did I find this I I'll tell you how I found this somehow I am on their email lists for press releases got this they say it's a niche market for what they are doing I can understand that it does have a hooded blade front sight police justice will rear its I got no there has a good reputation as their guns work all the time like the versus well Bonelli Virata a smooth bore twenty-two basically it is still lever action it has a black receiver instead of the brass but it is with the seventy five and at a p ten and all that taking off more people about ceesay now and the Bren gun and it'll be a good gun for you go check it out next up is something odd we find this the Brennan everything else so it might start selling more might be worth it you WanNa talk about them selling stuff there scorpion like win that sees Eva when that ego hit the market I've had we had one of those out there shooting Claes also look blowing stuff your face I love that I have not shot made specifically to shoot twenty two long rifle shot shells it has eighteen and a half inch barrel you know fifteen round capacity you know kind of a black I I I was not impressed by the nine thirty at all and I mean after that I'm looking at the Bor I didn't know Stober me I did know still remain Kish Walnut stock or something it weighs five and a quarter pounds over a length is thirty six and a half inches it's for low it's for pest control like better pattern because your bullet your shot isn't going to be like thrown in a weird spiral patterns over I have a question about facing the wrong direction towards like the House of the barn or something you couldn't use a regular one and it worked fine so with this you're going to get TUCK INS mood semiotics hunters I didn't know that they make else doug remains competition for three guys okay well I guess we can hope that easy does what we want but if not for you hunters and other people out there seems like a good price three eight cents groove receiver so if you WANNA put like twenty two red dot on it like that stuff like that I don't know about the price but the con you too shotgun yeah I then we needed another player in the semi Automatic Schalken game I'm like Oh what Henry come out with my garden gun what's that so Ms Rpm has four hundred twenty one dollars what this is is this is word exterminating down there and you know you could shoot it probably under house not hurt anything well I guess all you people that can fit under house the doughnuts size old of where the show hittings or stupid to this is that form life and you have you
Your Child's Erratic, Disruptive Behavior
"Hi this is Janet Lansbury. Welcome to unruffled today. I have a question from a parent who is wondering how to handle her son's and sometimes erratic energy he gets wound up and in this mood he is physical with his little brother and can also lash out adults around him and before I begin. I think we all know that making our bedroom. Beautiful and comfortable is a wonderful form of Self Care Brooklyn Dot Com. I found the most just incredibly soft luxurious sheets I've ever slept on at a totally reasonable price. Most luxury bedding is marked up by as much as three hundred percent but Brooke Linen deals directly with manufacturers and directly with customers no middlemen just a great product without the ridiculous markup. We spend about a third of our life and sheets sheets so maybe it's time for betting upgrade right now. If you go to Brooklyn Dot Com and use the Promo code respectful you'll get ten percent off there already low. 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It has helped me immeasurably in my parenting to see myself as confident and as a leader to my children I am a stay at home. Mom of two beautiful little boys ages three and a half and seventeen months old the eldest eldest is a firecracker. I call my little spark. He's full of life and joy and attitude. Here's my question I can see when he's winding up to a stage where he's not fully in himself. In this mood he is physical with his little brother pushing snatching just plain annoying and can also hit adults around him mainly me and my mom who's around most days to help me once he starts hitting. I won't tolerate it and I tell him not to hit. It hurts me or others and suggests he use words to tell me how he feels if he does it one more time he goes in his room. A corner or other location in my view won't work. He I just walked freely around with a mischievous smile on his face when he's in this zone words have absolutely no visible effect to change his behavior. I don't like putting him in his room room but feel I have no choice but to put a circuit breaker in the situation and give myself and his brother and my mum a break from his behavior. I'd love to hear there's some techniques and some guidance as to whether what I'm doing is okay so one thing I love about this question is that she is reading her son's energy. She has noticing when he is not fully quote in himself and she says later when he's he's in this zone. Words have absolutely no visible effect to change his behavior and I just WanNa shout from the hills yes she's at least eighty eighty percent there by being able to recognize when her son has this energy when he is not reachable and I'm so Oh appreciative of all the experts these days the brain researchers who are corroborating this idea Stewart Schenker and his book Self Rag Tina Payne Bryson and Dan Siegel Mona Della Hooke with her book beyond behaviors what used to be a lonely outside view is his gathering steam and this is the We can understand what's going on when our children are like this and actually help make a change in behavior so reading this behavior or is the first step then understanding that children cannot be reached through reason when they are in this state and the most is com thing we do as parents is trying to use reason. She says once he starts hitting. I won't tolerate it and I tell him not to hit so she saying don't hit it. Hurts hurts me or it hurts grandmother but our child has no ability when he is out of himself when the reasonable centers of his brain his cortex folks have been hijacked by his emotional centers what some people call the lizard brain what Tim Paine Bryson Dan Siegel called the downstairs brain and it's a fighter flight stress state that young children go into we can all go there when we are stressed but young children didn't have much more difficulty regulating the stress so saying don't hit that hurts is not going to cause a child to snap out of of it and say. Oh yes you're right. I forgot hitting hurts and thank you for reminding me and all just stop doing this now. They literally cannot stop themselves salves. They are in a hyper aroused state and all bets are off. We can't reach them. They can't use their words and just stop themselves and start explaining. Oh you know actually I was feeling a little tense and that made me do silly things and I'm sorry eh they cannot go there. This is crucial for us to understand as parents and professionals working with children and this is true even when she says that she tells them to go in a corner or another location and he just walks freely around with a mischievous smile on his face that is not a smile coming from state of calm a centeredness it is a smile that is as tense and uncomfortable as our child feels inside in these moments so again this mother's eighty percent there in being able to read her child's energy all she needs is to to understand the implications of that and how to help calm this behavior how to help make a change. We can't go at this is with punishments or threats or anything that's reasonable. We can scare our children into silence but a stuart shanker anchor so astutely notes in his book. There's a big difference between quiet and calm so we can quiet our children down by yelling at them by threatening punishing but what we've actually done is increased the stress that our child feels inside they are quiet it but they are still hyper aroused and that will lead to more of this discomfort and wound up behavior so no this boy or any child does not want to be the annoying pushing snatching child with their sibling and they definitely don't want to be the child hitting their grandmother in their mother or anyone else. This is not about their will and their choice. It's about really uncomfortable level of stress that has sent them into what Tina Pain Bryson calls flipping their lid. They are in a sense out of their mind and the more direction we try to give our children and the more we express our disapproval or try to talk them out of it the more stress they feel and when they are in these states they're they're using an enormous amount of energy which then can become a cycle because there then more exhausted which leads to more stress and less ability ready to regulate so how do we help we helped by seeing and then being that person that creates safety for that child children need us to physically be there for them and stop them help them in this behavior so when for example she sees him being being physical and erratic with his brother even when she sees him approaching his brother with that energy. I would put your hand there. I'M NOT GONNA. To let you go close right now. I think you need to be by me or I'm. I'm going to help you having time in with him. If you need to do something maybe he can come come with you and follow you all the time you're seeing him your understanding where he's at understanding that he can't help himself right now and he. I need you to help her until these feelings pass and he's able to find com again but that starts with us being the calming presence and this this is the opposite of the way we will feel if we see this as intentional unkind behavior if we believe that he just needs us to drum this lesson a bit more or prove to him that this is unacceptable. That's why the perception we have of this is so crucial it will change the way we feel about it and the way we feel about it will inform the way we respond so keeping him safe from his little brother letting him know we see him. Were there we see that he needs help and we're going to stop him. That can look a few different ways depending on on where we are in our day if we can stop and just hold that space for him which doesn't mean robbing him and hugging him but giving him the room mm to safely expand that energy that he has when we stop him and allow him to he might go into a meltdown or a tantrum lashing lashing out even more because he's now feeling safe to express some of those feelings that he has so. I wouldn't try to do anything to make him MM. Stop or get them to stop. We don't have the power to do that safely but hold that space that might look like holding his wrists and so that that he can't hurt you but not angrily holding him as someone who's completely lost control and needs your help doesn't want to hurt you and you're not GonNa let that happen but trying to access his brain right there is not going to work so I would try to read this energy as early as possible so that it doesn't get to the point where he's freely lashing out at everyone and sometimes parents misread things like play or her playing with food as something that children need to do and they need to explore you can tell the difference if you observe you can see whether whether a child is having a focused exploration of something and personally. I don't believe that they need to do that with food. In terms of making a mess putting it all over the place I don't think that's necessary but certainly with toys or outdoors with sand. They will hold it in their hands. They will want to throw things you can see the difference when a child what is doing that with interest in the experiment or in that hyper aroused stress state where they are disrupted. They are not centered in their minds and calm. They are not in themselves. This parent says if he does it one more time he goes in his room so all of that even being able to count that he's doing it another time. He cannot do that and those kind of threats one more time going to count to three all that if we really understand the state that he's in we can see how pointless that is. Were asking him to do things that he cannot do. We're asking him to go places. He cannot go in those moments. What's it will only add more stress to his system so she says once he starts hitting. I won't tolerate it. Will that's a good instinct. I would not tolerate it but this isn't about telling him. I won't tolerate this. You can't do it anymore and expecting that. He's going to say oh in that case. I'll stop up. She's got to know the he needs help right there. She's got to calmly stop him and using words to tell how he feels. There's no way there's no no way he can connect with how he feels much less articulated. She says a corner or other location won't work. He just walks freely around right. He needs more help than that so I would be somewhere with him. If possible to hold that space with a safe attitude food that you are there to help that you see you've lost your boy for a bit and he's going to come back and the best message he could get his safety. D. And acceptance and that's how children learn to regulate the behavior and these emotional states that they're in there that causes it they learn through US connecting with them in a regulated way but if there's something urgent going on or you're in the middle of something and you absolutely cannot take at that time to be with him right then and the only place that he can be safe incentives room than I would do that as a last resort but again with this attitude and the words of will I got to keep you safe. I'M GONNA come back as soon as I finish with your brother or finished with the stove I see you. I see you need my help and I'm sorry I can't be there. I'll be back parents have said to me well. I have ten minutes. I don't have twenty minutes but what we need to understand is when children go on for that period of time with their meltdown with with all their discomfort bubbling over it is the result of buildup. It's a result of not getting that opportunity to release the stress safely really so the time that we put into that and most importantly the way we perceive it will mean that it happens less. I would work on breathing breathing and what I'm seeing there. If I start to get angry I would let that feeling. Come up and look at it with interest <hes> okay but but that's not what's going on here. The Sky isn't being mean to me and I'm not doing anything wrong as a parent now. There's terrible sign whatever it is that triggers us. We're GONNA look at that and then we're going to remind ourselves. No that's not what's going on here. What's going on as I have poor little guy. That doesn't doesn't even know what he's doing doesn't want to be doing this needs my help and presence and safety but then we wanNA consider later or soon after I wonder if there are stressors in his environment that I can help with. Maybe we shouldn't have gone to a party <music> after we already had houseguests and schedules were disrupted or something else. Every child has their own sensitivities and to help them. It will help us to understand and tune in to our child. Some children are very sensitive to visual. Some children sound. Almost every child is sensitive to being too tired or too hungry the emotions of others around them even excitement. Happy feelings can be stressful. Foale for children for making demands on our child that they are not ready to fulfill that stressful understanding our children. Is Everything everything she says. I'd love to hear some techniques. I wish I had techniques but this is about the way we see and understanding. Why I they behave the way they do. That is the only way that we're going to be able to address it that we can help them. 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Ep. 4: The Ultimate Game Changer
"It was impressive particularly with exports guy so seeing autism apple and it was really nice and refreshing to see all the different like the different football players the different marathon runners right everybody talking talking about the same kind of things where it is not it's not about me it's not about dairy it's not about any of this stuff and how plants are like a good and compete you of your body now it's much more effective so i don't know that was really important to me so i mean for me it's inspirational because to watch what the human body can do and see individuals that have achieved the greatest from that perspective but then also see kind of common people kind of intermingled in the film as well and watching them achieve things i think it just goes to show that if you put your mind to it and you're willing to try something even for what was it seven days where the firefighter experiments like you can achieve great things hello my plants pals rip here and you just heard comments from people who attended the one night theatrical premiere of the game changers documentary and it just so happened that perfectly corresponded with when we were throwing the heart of the hero campaign in pittsburgh and so of course we naturally included free passes for all of the participants in the seventy rescue challenge challenge as they were taking their plunge into the plant strong lifestyle being an executive producer of the game changers there's comes with its perks one of which is i got to see every day of the film before we kind of reached the final version but but nothing but nothing takes the kale like being in a packed movie house and watching and listening to people's reactions for the first time nothing james wilkes and i were able to spend some time together before and after the private screening of the game changers changes that was thrown by john and tracy stewart and i want to share this very special conversation that i had with james where we discuss us the impact of the film and how the game changers is doing things that nobody but nobody expected and it is rippling out out far and wide beyond just the plant based vegan community we talk about the rigors of the science and the quality of the participants what's that are in the game changers which make it almost impossible to to poke holes in and we talk about his philosophy on the truth in combat and what his guiding principles were that propelled hold him in his search for the truth about nutrition a all right right i'm here with the the man the myth the legend the man of the hour james lightning in wilkes folks the the star and the producer and really the the kind of the concept designer behind the game changers we're we're here in new jersey were well we've been invited to do an event around the film by john and tracy stewart quite an honor and they are just huge fans of the game changers and i mean i started arted james kind of watching you go down this path is journey seven years ago can you believe that your your your finely only where you are right now where we're showing the game changers to a audience of seven hundred people it's being hosted by john tracy stewart did you ever imagine that you would be be where you are right now no it's it's been a long journey i think you gave me too much credit to get this fall at took a huge team obviously you know so sure i was there at the beginning being but took a huge team to get it to to this level took a lot longer than i thought a lot more money than i thought but really thought it would have a big impact but you know their mouth people i love seen it now it's not sure the exact numbers but it seems to be a growing massively switch sits really exciting what happened so it hit i tunes tunes and didn't they didn't break some records number one selling documentary on i tunes and then you know when the film came on netflix plant based eating worldwide right roughly three to an increase in interest on google roughly increased by threefold so it's obviously having a big impact and i mean that must feel i mean it was was that your goal when you set out to make the game changers to have as big an impact as possible to try and move the the needle as far as the number of people that you could share this knowledge with what was your goal woke up i was starting to dig into this research and i woke up at two in the morning on anthro i've got to make a documentary about this i felt like it'd been lied to and i hate being lied to so not my parents went trying to lie but they're just sort of misinforms they were telling me as a kid you know you've seen in the film superman outfit i'm saying you gotta have all this meat and eggs and things to be strong and healthy and my dad was sort of had reinforced force that and then obviously the advertising from the industry and they sort of fund these studies and i just felt like i've been lied to right so felt like i really had to get the word out out now it's hoping that crash shift was more plant based eating for for people's health and performance on the planet and everything else but at the same time what i really wanted to do is just dispel well the mess and let people make their own decision you know so i just wanted to point out that we've been lied to and you really don't need me all animal any animal products to be strong and healthy and is an athlete you really got to the top of your game as an ultimate fighter right as a mixed mixed martial artists and that was what two thousand nine when nine when i won the ultimate fighter i fought for a couple of years after that but of course in the documentary other stories condense you conta- everything about someone's journey and all different injuries you got and everything else so i won that yeah go injured started digging into research for optimal for more coverage and that's when i came across the study about the roman gladiators in the film and just digging into it more and more from the us camera craigslist i heard that you know at started hearing about some of the experts in the plant based field thought was being opportunity an interview some of them yourself and your dad in a few people like that and so boy us come off of craigslist and got some advice from the director of photography from the ultimate fighter on youtube learn how to do the three point lighting got one of the wireless mics you know and that's when i came out an interview for the first time we were in i think we're in a little hotel room i remember thinking i don't i don't think this guy has any clue what he's getting into and then i saw you you gave a talk and it was during that talk i was like this guy is amazing he's a perfectionist and no wonder he was able to become you know the ultimate fighter champion because just and i asked your wife because she was there and that that event and i said how much did james practice this because he did an amazing job and it wasn't just how much you knew the information it was the way you put together that that first presentation and she said he didn't sleep right right and and so it was at that point that i liked this guy right i like your commitment tenacity that's the thing right you don't have to have all the skills in the world so i didn't know how to make a film but you thought putting some effort in get to as far as you can get yourself start researching things you know whatever it is whether it's about nutrition on making a film stopped digging into you know how to make that do the best you can and then bring on the people that have the expertise in those fields and that's how you really put put something together while same if you're training for a fight right you push yourself you only get so-fi yourself you've gotta bring team members on you gotta bring on a wrestling coach bring on a boxing coach bring on a nutrition coach you know look at sleep look at you know sleep training obviously living in altitude like you've got to sort of put all these pieces together and that's why i think we've done with the film and that's why i think it's been so successful who who would you say over the course of the last seven years is the biggest celebrity slash star that you've met while making this wide let's say rip come in i know so i think donald probably yeah it's the biggest and of course like probably the most exciting one right you know growing up i remember my dad had his book so i remember seeing that when i was younger my brother was into bodybuilding as well you know you're watching all his films growing up so that was pretty cool getting to interview him and meet him and he's been super supportive as well so and we say it's doesn't have to be all or nothing you know elvis i believe it's better to be you know one hundred percent implants no animal foods as many whole all plans as possible but people often the film's out does it have to go all in i do think it's better to go all in but you know if your option is stick with what you're currently eating the standard founded western diet you know do do nothing at all i think about it the more the more shift you can have any more plan unite the better right yeah i i would encourage people to eventually be one hundred percent for some people they can jump into it and they get great results right away for other people can walk into it more subtly but it's mojo plans you get the better off you're gonna be yeah what's so what is next are you just trying to like get your head around around the you're on netflix now you you did the work you did the world premiere like little over a month ago you guys got what books planned yeah yeah i mean the the main thing right now is putting out you know resources for people so you know i on the website a lot of people are still messaging me on instagram i i've got my personal inbox maybe one hundred or so messages day from people are eating meat that wanna switch and they wanna know other recipes our meal plan and then obviously we got thousands on the game changes site as well masters coming in and that we we have put some of these resources on the website so you know how to what can i switch switch for eggs in this recipe or how to make the transition philosophy some recipes tips on eating out that type of thing so we're gonna continue to put in resources because five five six people that go meat free end up going back historically and you know so one of the main reasons the main reasons actually social pressure but this is the second largest region is the lack of resources and knowledge not knowing what to eat and how to read and that type of thing so we wanna keep putting resources out as well as having an online online community with a place where people can ask a scientific advisor questions or talk to the athletes or you know interact with me so you know and also amongst themselves just is credit community yeah eventually you know a book people starting to ask you know is there a book you can put out so maybe an app just putting out these resources game changers nutrition certification for trainers and they won't for dietitians we're also working with the american college of lifestyle medicine and also the defense health agency so the the film is being accredited as an ongoing medical education resource so that's the first time ever for the defense health agency has also been endorsed by the special operations operations medical association and i film ever so we're really trying to work i can sort of educational the educational sphere and give people these resources to both the personal level to make the switch but also to doctors and healthcare professionals to so they have information to give patients yeah that's all amazing stuff the your website game changers lovie dot com is it's brilliant i mean the the information that you have there for anybody that's curious and and what's more information lots more resources should be super proud of that so whenever i've probably seen the film twenty times i know you've probably seen it four thousand four yeah i the scene that gets the most kind have giggles and i think reaction is obviously the one with the the three college athletes and where they do the kind of testing the virility of their their i guess their manhood how in the world you pull that off how did you how did you get those volunteers how'd you find aaron spits i mean well i mean funny enough so i was such a plan based doctors wanna dug into the research and dr spitzer's office i literally happened to be a thousand yards from my house so you know he just happened to be the lead delegate of urology for the american medical association he wrote the the book called the pianist book and you know he was advocating plant based eating for better men's health especially you know reducing risk of prostate cancer also for erectile function as well and i'd seen all of the studies going back about twenty two years for looking at blood flow hello arterial blood flow based on having animal-based meal simone plan based meal and seeing better blood flow there and start talking with some the scientific team like david goldman achieve signs advisor chief scientific adviser and then dr michael greg and he pointed remember him pointing out hey there's something called the pl pled mcgrath as are the brand new school the richest can basically tests duration rigidity and comference directions and and we thought that's pretty interesting because you know as a man i honestly felt it wasn't just as an athlete or as a sort of a human being that i felt like i needed protein as a man it really felt like well you something about it gives you more testosterone which of course isn't true there was something about that i felt like i really had to have meat and so i thought that'd be an interesting experiment given the galleries that go to the peanut based news in the smallest in the body and so it was really fascinating to see the results and then yeah i was surprised that these this college athletes were totally call showing up a few people did drop out early on and i remember flying back from new york the day before that that that filming and and luckily had wi fi on the plan because you know all through the night i was basically trying to figure out you more athletes to show up because some people dropped out the day before and just worked out really well worked out brilliantly have you been in touch with those those three yeah athletes about a month ago and how are they doing and how have their lives have been changed since the movie i'm not sure muslim just before the film came out twice in the leg to the film before it came out recently reached out to my friends at wild worth to provide me with a few more details about the best diet for dogs you guys are well aware our family is currently feeding are one and a half year old rescue jade wild earth plant based based dog food but the truth is that dogs they've evolved over millennia to not only enable them to digest plant based starches yes but also to thrive on foods like fruits and vegetables and whole grains and herbs meats poultry fish and and much more which makes them true omnivores and i find that fascinating and i applaud the the team at wild earth for really redefining what a clean protein means for dogs i would encourage you to try a bag and save forty percents off your first order by visiting wild earth dot com or amazon dot com and use the code plant strong in this talk for a second about some of the myths that you try and bust in the movie what would you say is the number one the addressed but you need an animal products for protein i think that's the number one i think that's something that's underlying that which perhaps is a bit more subconscious real many meet i think that's an underlying with but i think the sort of conscious myth that people believe i feel like we did a good job busting is that you need me products for protein and you know i think it's revelatory for a lot of people the the animals are just the middleman so all protein originates implants animals are just the middle man you can cut that middleman out and go straight to the source and a lot of people are sort of been picking up on that go yeah that makes a lot of sense percents so now they're getting their protein relent right what's what's another myth that you that you busted in this movie you know i think there are quite a few i think well there are lots want me to tee up a little bit sure well i think one is if i if i eat soy not right that that could be problematic because i'm getting i'm getting these estrogen yeah is zack is that true right now as you know it's things are setting up but now it's not totally not true so soy contains fighter estrogen whereas animal products contain the same exact estrogen as humans having their body and so it's strange to be worried about you know a plant estrogen which actually has beneficial effects but not be worried about you know dairy or eggs or meat that is you know is is raising in your estrogen levels i mean after a glass of milk you know you're raising your estrogen goes by a twenty seven percent within hours hours i can't remember i think you're right it's it's somewhere between twenty and thirty thirty percent in just an hour right right and what about what is it does what does that to your testosterone drops so same time trumping as well so yesterday and goes up yet testosterone go down within within hours of drinking cow's milk so yeah just better off much off getting in front plant plant based milk you know so it's just the milk industry has done an amazing raising job the dairy industry at leading us to believe that we need milk you know use that thing called that unique selling proposition unique selling point in marketing weather if they go what does this product have it has of calcium okay let's really pitch that you know like a couple of college greens for example has more bioavailable calcium calcium but also has a lot of magnesium which is also important for bone health well cow's milk is very low in magnesium but they don't advertise that right they're just gonna take you with this unique selling proposition over and over and over again calcium's cow's milk bones and of course as you know there's an inverse correlation between dairy consumption and and and bone fractures so the countries with the highest area and take actually have more infectious not less than so it's counter to what you think and you can get all the calcium and what what's going on there are y is it because the calcium you're getting from dairy products is not very absorbable or is it because of the animal protein that's in there well there's i think doesn't has a number of hypotheses strong hypotheses at the moment seems to be the lactose apparently which is apparently weakening of the milk sugar in the bone potentially having negative effects on in the milk has some negative effects on on bone health that's i've seen we're on the leading ones that i've heard recently i've heard numerous time right right i mean one of the biggest one i i've heard that you have these soil fair containing amino me no acid siphon calcium acid load yeah yeah now what about let's talk about iron for a second red meat for red meat especially right for on but they don't realize that that that he mind your body can't really regulate that so he might already attached to the hemoglobin mclovin so when you eat at your body regulate it with non he mine which is found in animals have bohemian on him but plants basically have there's a miniscule amounts of him but basically it's on him i and and your body can regulate that so if you taking loads of nahim iron your body only absorbs what it needs have you taken lots of he mind your body regulate that and as you saw in the film one milligram per day or per for each milligram there's a twenty-seven percent increase in cardiovascular disease so that's that's pretty significant in how many milligrams are in like a wendy's or uh-huh if you take a wendy's medium bugging the lodge there's like two point between two and three milligrams of mine and it's for every milligrams a twenty-seven curious and most and most americans i would imagine because they're eating the meet are probably consuming what five eight milligrams of he might earn a day i don't know what the numbers the most reliable just a single wendy's a hamburger right so you know one of the things that i think made you one of the best fighters on the planet was your attention to detail tail and some of these key lessons that you took from bruce lee you've now applied to the movie in the science what were those lessons i want him bruce these main philosophy was researcher on experience absorb what is useful reject what is useless and add what is specifically around and so i think for me i used to study karate and taekwondo and all these different forms and every masha has something useful in it but you know when i was fifteen years old i go after i'm studying these for quite a few years beaten up on the street and realized that those things really working for me so i was when i came to the realization you've got to really dig in and see what the truth truth in combat is you've got to start really studying and really looking at you know what does the evidence show is the best way to train right and and then when i got injured so i used to be in the search for truth in combat and when i go injured i some sort of put myself in this past for the search for truth and nutrition so there was a parallel and i thought again okay what have i got to do i fallen at fallen four this sort of nutritional evidence that was in magazines and blogs and i sort of like that so just falling for the karate lessons that is sort of onto because it looked and looked flashy and it looked good and then she call bro oh science yeah so yeah i'd fallen for the bro science exactly and so i thought okay what have i gotta do i've got really look at the evidence that's when i did a deep dive you know first of all i was looking at it came across the study about the roman gladiators and that that wasn't enough to convince me you know people have been saying oh this whole film built around this premise gladiators vegan right well first of all that's not what the film set the scientists in the film the analyze the bone so the predominantly vegetarian and then i said i was shocked that they could do this eating mainly plants so no one ever said they were regan and that isn't what the film is based on all that did was a starting point that sort of got me into how could they have been strong strong and athletic in which they do know from the attachments on the bones they know that there was there was strong and you know that just made me start looking into the nutritional the research but again i applied that same mindset from the search for truth and combat search for truth and nutrition and just started really digging in and i do have a science degree so as sort of a little bit familiar with reading scientific papers and so started really digging into the truth and then also looking into how those studies that i read refunded looking at you know was there any conflict of interest listed and if not because a lot of times that's supposed to they're supposed to list the conflict of interest but a lot of times they don't right so you start digging into each of the office and it's quite a you know a timely process to stop digging into this but that's what i thought had to do to get to the bottom of this and the science science that's in this movie is i mean from what i can tell everything is footnoted it is about is rock solid as you can get and you don't just use anybody i mean this is the the the level of pedigree of the of the physicians of the archaeologists you name it i mean can you talk a little bit about the pedigree of some of the people that are in the movie yeah i mean so so some of the documentaries that come out in the past it's sort of a lot of people would say vegan doctors which is not necessarily the case and selling this wasn't some of the anthropologists some of the scientific experts when completely vegan right right there plenty mainly plants can not but just like doctors you know you could be a doctor and know that smoking is bad for you it doesn't mean you're not gonna smoke yourself you can still know the evidence so there's been some criticism of the film saying well all of their doctors being doctors that they've got an agenda that's not true if you look at the the level of expertise in the film so we had the time to chat nutrition at harvard dr walter williams the most published or wasn't the time the most published nutritional personal scientists in the world and i'm gonna stop you have to say each person is just a little bit so walter willett and what so one of the things that he said that really sticks out in my mind is that animal protein revs up to marin cancer cells is that is that what you heard yeah exactly acne so you know and and what was really interesting is that he said the you know with barry consumption and prostate cancer which obviously going to affect men obviously that was the causal link was actually quite clear right so that's a pretty big statement someone who'd level to say it was a causal link not just you know a correlation link where you know we see dairy go up so prostate cancer could have been something else that wasn't connected but he's saying there's there's a causal link so it's really quite interesting you know some of that level is saying that that's that says a lot yeah i mean and then how about kim williams president president of the american college of cardiology at the time when we interviewed him again you it's hard to put down people with these credentials at this level you know he talked about the inflammatory mediators and of course in the film we couldn't fit and some of the experts we're talking for two hours in some even four hour interviews and it was a shame because i'm seeing that thing oh yeah we've got to put this in the film and that just hours and hours interviews and it's hard to fit everything you want so people are trying to pick up little bits of science in the film you know making pretty false claims about it but the signs in the film is like less than one percent of what we uncovered in the research right and then you had columbia needed batiz must be teased without you had dean orangish raising work with looking at reversing not only heart disease but prostate cancer and has now moved onto alzheimer's i'm an early stage preventing but also reversing early stage alzheimer's studies apparently are going really well so be interesting dressing just the fact that there is an effect novel and then who are some of the the experts that you spoke to for example about you know the canine teeth and sort of the most prominent and apologised for the remark was dr richard wrangham here's the chair of anthropology apology of it and there's some really great things that he said that we didn't have to put in the film you know he said basically if you if you left back in the day they are ancestors to eat only meat or only plans the people eat only meat would be dead pretty quickly and i want eating only pants would thrive so i think the sound bite didn't make the film it was in an early cut that we sort of played around with but you know for someone at that level to say yeah that says something and and the executive producers that are associated with the film are i mean these are world class athletes who are some of these producers so chris paul who's the nine time all-star NBA player lewis hamilton who is now the six time formula one champion and novak djokovic the number one male rated tennis player in the world who are just one wimbledon recently in the final i think one of the longest the longest longest ever gone on beat roger federer i watched the whole thing that was a great match in great endurance and again as you know the endurance is one of the big things the guy in order to be an executive producer that you also have to be like a one hundred percent plant based no i mean they're not all so arnold's not one hundred percent plan based so he's never really been into dairy said milk for babies so he's not a fan of dairy and then you know since sort of learning the he'd come to his own conclusions as well you know way before this film realizing that plans for the right to go and the animal products could be health and so he's cut down his meat consumption by eighty eighty percent so he might you know he's the lights taken at once in a while but you can eat something is you like the taste of it if that's what you wanna do but don't trick yourself into thinking that that's good for you and then you know jackie chan i don't think it one hundred percent plant based but he's he's largely plant based and so you know the people these people believe in the the film and honored wanted to help get out that it's a myth that you need me to be strong and healthy and pepsi sort of perpetuated that a little bit back in the day i've even heard stories of waking up like three or four in the morning to chicken back in the day and so he probably you know feels that he probably helped perpetuate back in the day and wants to set the record straight he well he even talked ah i think it was in the movie maybe not or maybe as one of the scenes were cut about one of the people that he looked up to when he was in bodybuilding the building was built earl right who was all vegetarian never never did meet the i think it was gout says bodybuilders regain cout back in the day and so quite a few of them switched over yeah there's others like i'm under his calling and screw there was actually there was a whole list of bodybuilders that back in the day that were went meat free logic is a gal and started winning championships trying to remember the other names but you know anybody without out there listening he definitely they wanna wanna drop them heat one of the scenes that when i was watching this it got me more pumped up than anything else when nate diaz like took down conor conor mcgregor gosh i mean i mean did you just love that or what i'm it was great seeing i mean i think you know conor mcgregor was being so cocky before that you know saying you're like zalam like lion because he was making fun of its plant based diet right pointing out that he oh i'm like like carnivore news to stakes day and you know people are trying to criticize that pau and say well actually there was another fight off to that way kana just you know slightly edged out that people thought it was a bad decision but you know we could have gone into that whole story we thought about it because khanna did cut down on his meat consumption after that you know and so you know i think it was in his words that he you know he was having to stakes day energy energy and it was a battle of energy and and as well people do i don't know but nick diaz the two brothers have just known for like phenomenal endurance the both you know high level translates as well so again we know that you're going to have better endurance you know eating that's so interesting because i had no idea that nate and nick de as were also traff elites they've sometimes literally had a fight one night next morning at five AM and they're running travel triathlon as long as i said i just can't imagine how tough these these guys are phenomenal and hasn't nate now you said we were talking earlier and you said he's gone on now and he's become like a right now they're just so they actually traded a new belt and and the UFC called b. m. f. that mean well b. m. f. the baddest bad mother yeah bad mother and mother father mother efforts basically well at stanford their trade a new belt just for this last week and unfortunately got stopped by the referee may was caught and it'll be interesting to see the fourth and fifth round because does joint really helps oh wow in one of the things you didn't show in the the the the film that was interesting is how many rounds did that i fight go where he beat conor mcgregor 'cause you were saying that i remember but i think what you said that maybe the first three maybe connor was was taken after that i can't remember what round yeah but no i'm for endurance so anyway i i love that it does and then of course you know when he's talks to the mike i'm not surprised i'm not surprised mother father one of the conversations that you and i had numerous times you mean joseph the pace one of the other producers the writers of the game changers is about the backfire principal talk about that yeah i mean it's something that we we sort of felt naturally but we also saw in the re such as we're going along basically if you just give people information and if it's against this sort of current beliefs than they dig in heels more and believe in their original position more than the fact that you're showing them and so it's just you know sort of just worked out that we were showing these great role models and the psychology of the the the literature in psychology also shows that showcasing these role models an effective way to open people's minds up up and let them be more accepting of the of the science i well i know when i was a firefighter some of these guys they they would they they didn't care about how much cholesterol was in a burger they didn't care about saturated fat in fact because their identities were so tied to the eating meat would actually in front of me shoveled down you know two or three burgers instead of their normal one just to show me how tough they were how man i remember but my dad before he had a heart attack you know because i was already digging into this and i remember him taking their big swath of butter and just spreading on his toast i you know and i said you know that's that's not really great for he said oh yeah and he got like double put it on the text and you you know having people are trying to show you know there's actually some sort of this science behind that people trying to basically show that what what impacts other people that genes are stronger than those people so impacts them is it's not gonna impact other people so yeah look what your father right who reacted that way look how far he's come yeah i mean unfortunately for him he had to have a heart attack in order to wake up and start listening right so my hope is and it's just happened with lots of people already reaching out to me there's been a lot of sad stories where people have said you know my my dad tons of meat and cheese and unfortunately passed away like like sixty years old of a heart attack so it's really sad to hear those stories but then there's also some great stories i hear about you know my my dad and my mom moment onto your on cosby in having high issues and now they're switch and this time to feel better down there medication and so yeah you can it's never too late to make the change aims people think oh i'm already sixty seventy or whatever you can still make shift and so i'm really pleased madonna made the shift because for a lot of people i have a heart attack would be death and so i'm i'm pleased that you made shift elvis every night we'd made early app i'm hoping that will inspire and it seems to be inspire other people to to make the change before it's too late well i think that the game changers literally is one of those inspirational informational exciting documentaries that's come out in my lifetime i as i've told you probably twenty times i couldn't be more proud certain of what you and joseph and the whole team has been able to create its monumental and i think as as lewis said after one of the premier's you know they'll be the world we know it before game changers mhm and after game changers and that is that's pretty powerful i think now thanks saying i think it is happening you know like i said there's like a threefold old interest in plant by stealing worldwide because since the film came out if you look at google trends and look at the spike in interest rests so there's definitely compensation this happening on both sides of the aisle you know you've got the kito accountable folks trying to wait in but the fact that they're trying to about the film so hard and come out against it and you know it's better to be talked about than one doing all the you know like getting on it's hard not to jump on social and try and rebuffed that claims but there's a conversation happening and i think that's always a great thing all the pioneers have lots of arrows in their back so you're you're sure you got your tough you'll you'll watch my back all right james thank you so much peace engine to the plants draw some things oh yeah the game changers came came out and it has done things that nobody expected in one week it surpassed and became the most downloaded did documentary on itunes in the history of items it is consistently one of the most popular and trending movies he's on net flicks and as i'm sure you can imagine when this happens you're gonna receive a lot of backlash and recently joe rogin did an episode where he had one of his so-called nutrition experts a guy named chris kreider come in and basically shoot holes roles in film and he then invited james wilkes to come on the show and defend himself and james goes toe to toe oh against joe and chris to animal eating lovers and basically rules the octagon he the he takes them down in my opinion he takes him down hard this is almost four hours long and there's been over two point three million downloads on youtube alone so pretty spectacular i want to read you something that joe rogan wrote in his show notes which is he's at lightning wilkes one of the producers of the game changers came on to challenge some of the criticism that chris presser presented did about the movie and to say that he did well would be a tremendous understatement james knocked it out of the park and defended himself off and the film quite spectacularly so much show that i'm actually considering taking the original breakdown of the film off line line pretty fantastic i want you to know that if you're interested in watching or listening to this episode will link to it in our show notes james wilkes nothing short of an all around good guy if you wanna hang out with james this summer at camp planned land stock come he'll put you in the sleeper headlock if tap out he won't knock you out completely but i invite you to come join james the producer and star of the game changers along with dr michael clapper dr michael gregor marco borges the trainer of beyond say and jay z gene bauer jim hicks my whole family dr monica agarwal brenda davis dr neal barnard and a slew of others as we as we ramp in the black mounds of of asheville north carolina it's the ultimate blend of deep learning epic stories new ideas plus plus all kinds of strategies and tools for accelerating your plan strong living visit can't plants doc dot com and register today all right all right all right i hope you enjoyed that conversation with james james he truly has not only the heart of the hero but he has a special fire that burns deep inside of him and i i so appreciate his passion thanks so much for listening i want you to know that this interview was also filmed so you're welcome to check that out on youtube uber as well links to the video version plus additional show notes and links to our special offers can be found at plant strong podcasts dot dot com or within your podcast player you simply have to scroll down within the episode i wanted to be sure to tune in next week when we're going to i share the highlights from the live panel discussion that james and i took part in there was moderated by the one and only 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Number in The News: 80 travel bubbles are forming around the world but not with the US
"Hi there. I'm being hellier this week. On the number in the news, I took a look at one industry. The pandemic has all but destroyed tourism now as the summer months near government are looking to revive dairy Connie's for the travel season, but don't head to the airport just yet especially, if you're in the US, let me tell you. The details for the world and PR X.. Today's number in the news is eighty. Eighty percent the UN World Tourism Organization estimates. The international tourism could decline by eighty percent this year, so governments around the world are trying to revitalize their tourism economies, and they're starting with travel bubbles agreements with neighboring regions that allow travel across borders for trips without quarantining upon arrival. The European Commission. Recently released a report recommending this buddy up strategy for you member states. Spain Italy Greece and Portugal have signed on agreeing to welcome travelers from the you. Know Don Muck Ebeth, annual young Norway and Denmark opened their borders to just each other leaving other Scandinavian countries out of immediate plans and beyond Europe people from Singapore and select Chinese provinces can now travel for business without having to quarantine for fourteen days with travel bubbles, caution is required because lives are at stake. The US has one of the worst infection rates in the world and the lack of widespread testing and contact tracing might doom its chances of. Of being invited into any travel bubble at this point, even with its closest neighbours, Canada and the United States have once again agreed to extend by thirty days the current measures in place along the border Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says the US Canada. Border will be closed through June at the least America has already begun opening for US Trust, though if you're in the states and looking for vacation plan, a road trip may be your best bet. The UN World Tourism Organization estimates. The international terrorism could decline by eighty percent this year. There you go. That's the number in the news. A new episode is published every morning seven days a week to add the show to your preferred news sources go to the Alexa or Google home app on your phone I. Hope you'll listen.
Motorola Announces a New Foldable Razr - DTH
"In these daily Tech Headlines for Thursday November Fourteenth Twenty nineteen. I'm rich drop Lino. Motorola roll announced a new foldable razor phone which features a flip phone form factor similar to its two thousand four predecessor the unfolds into a six point two inch twenty one forty two by eight seventy six x only display when folded. There's a two point seven inch eight hundred by six hundred display on. The front inside is a snapdragon seven ten system on a chip six gigabytes of Ram one. Hundred Twenty eight gigabytes of internal storage a fingerprint reader a sixteen megapixel rear camera. That's usable when the phone is folded a five megapixel front camera and a two thousand five hundred ten million pulling up our battery all running android nine phone also comes with a retro razor skin that emulates the t nine keypad of the original and features a phone feature phone like APP launcher. The phone is available for preorder December. Twenty six for one thousand five hundred dollars and chip sometime in January as a verizon exclusive in the US no word on if unlocked versions agents will be available. Bloomberg's Mark Gherman and Jerry Smith report. That apple is considering a services. Bundle that could be available as early as twenty twenty and include news plus Apple. TV plus an apple music. According to sources apple reportedly included a provision in deals with news plus publishers that would allow them to bundled subscription with other services currently publications about half of the ten dollar a month news plus subscription costs which would likely be lowered services Bundle Apple released a standalone research APP that supports three studies. The Apple Heart and movement study the Apple Women's health study and the apple hearing study. The APP works paired with an Apple. Watch and an phone users must opt into studies and can leave at any time once opted the apple show a list of tasks to be completed by the user the heart movement study will last up to five years in partnership with the American Heart Association and bring them and women's Hospital. The women's health study is a long-term study with Harvard and the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences and the hearing study was co-developed but the University of Michigan and scheduled to last at least two years in twenty twelve. The creator of Defense distributed cody. Wilson began publishing cantv files for three D printed gun components and models online. This was blocked by the. US Department of Justice restraining order arguing that the files violated the Arms Export Export Control Act or a sea preventing offshore firearm distribution resulting in a lawsuit to allow distribution by defense distributed into an eighteen the DOJ settled settled with Wilson arguing that blocking the files violated first and Second Amendment rights several US states and the District of Columbia lawsuit against that decision. Now Judge Robert last nick from the. US District Court in Seattle has blocked distribution of the cat files stating the DOJ. Settlement did not match pass. DOJ rulings that distribution with threaten national security occurred in international stability and that state gun control laws and federal ad ca regulations are aligned in blocking them a US. Federal Court in Boston ruled Tuesday newsday that's a specialist searches of smartphones and laptops at us. Airports violates the fourth amendment rule against unreasonable search and seizures U. S. border officers must now demonstrate individualized suspicion of contraband before they can search a travelers device Disney plus announced. It has more than ten million sign ups. Since it's Tuesday launch for some context text Hulu Disney owns reported more than twenty eight million subscribers in May and that the claim more than sixty million paid domestic subscribers and over ninety seven million international subscribers in its third quarter of two thousand Nineteen facebook released its semi annual report detailing how the company enforces its content policies. The report showed that eighty eighty percent of hate speech removed from the service in Q.. Three was detected Algorithm Ikley up from sixty eight percent in q one overall facebook removed. Eleven point six million pieces of content ED related to child pornography up from five point. Eight million in q one. They removed six point. Seven million posts related to drug or arm sales up from one point. Five million in q one and removed one point seven billion fake accounts in Q.. Three this was actually down from two point. Seven billion removed in Q.. One which facebook says is due to better preventative measures. The Nikkei reports that according to sources the parent companies of Yahoo Japan and the messaging APP line Z.. Holdings and never are and finally going to merge the two properties the combination would have over one hundred million users over a wide demographic range and expected to be a softbank consolidated subsidiary according to a Softbank Executive Executive speaking to Nikkei Softbank CEO Masayoshi son wants to create a Japanese version of Ali Baba centered around Yahoo and finally oculus. CTO Ajan Tarmac and now she will transition to a consulting CTO role with oculus devoting most of his time to working on artificial general intelligence outside of facebook KARMIC joint Oculus as CTO in two thousand thirteen prior to the company's acquisition by Facebook in two thousand fourteen for discussion of the news of the day remember described a new show at the new show dot com. You can find show notes there an links to all these headlines there as well. Thanks for listening. We'll talk to you next time. And from all of us here at daily tech headlines I remember have a super sparkly day.
A man who nearly died at Pearl Harbor has been buried there: An inspiring story of courage that compels our best
"This is the daily Article podcast published by the Denison Forum or culture changing Christians to receive the daily article directly to your Korea. Mail inbox each weekday morning. Visit the daily Article Dot Com. Now here's Today's news discerned differently the the USS Arizona has seen its last burial. Lauren Brunner was the second to last man to escape the ship. During the Japanese assault on Pearl Harbor he was one of only three hundred thirty. Four crew members to survive the December seventh nineteen forty one attack that killed eleven hundred seventy seven of his fellow sailors when the ship exploded. Brunner swam across seventy feet of burning water to reach the repair ship. US vestal he suffered burns nearly eighty eighty percent of his body and was wounded by Japanese gunfire. He recovered from his injuries and returned to sea serving aboard the destroyer. USS Coggan an eight more battles against the Japanese. He died this year in September tenth just months before his ninety ninth birthday more than nine hundred sailors are entombed within the sunken ship. The remains of forty-three USS Arizona survivors have been interred there over the years as well per his request. An Urn containing containing Brunner's ashes was placed by divers inside the ship. Saturday the seventy eight. Th Anniversary of the attack Lauren. Brunner will be the final person to be in turn on the USS Arizona. The last three living survivors plan to be laid to rest with their families does hearing hearing about Lauren Brunner filled with gratitude for his courage. It does for me especially because what happened at Pearl Harbor so directly changed what would become my life. My father grew up in a small town in Kansas with plans to become a doctor he had never seen Japan prior to the date. That will live in infamy. I doubt he had heard of have Pearl Harbor before it was attacked. When President Roosevelt declared war on Japan? My father immediately enlisted in the army and fought the Japanese in the South Pacific. Most of the men with whom he served died there. He witnessed atrocities that would mark him for the rest of his life. His entire trajectory was changed changed by his military service. Sixteen million other Americans joined my father in serving our nation during World War Two of their number four hundred five thousand three hundred ninety nine were killed in action and six hundred seventy one thousand two hundred seventy eight were wounded. No one who served our nation Asian would ever be the same we owe them a debt of gratitude. We can never repay. I was reading through I. Chronicles and in came upon the passage made famous by Bruce Wilkinson's bestseller the prayer of job as Chavez called upon the god of Israel. Saying oh that you would. Bless me and enlarge border and that your hand might be with me and that you would keep me from harm so that it might not bring me pain and God granted what he asked. For God to enlarge his border meant to increase his territory and influence job is wanted his life to count as fully fully as possible but he knew that this was impossible unless the hand of God was with him to lead empower and protect such a prayer may seem audacious audacious but God granted what he asked. It seems that the Lord wants us to seek to be all we can be for his glory and the good of others ask yourself. We are to work hardly in all we do. Are you doing so. God wants us to approve. What is excellent? And so be pure and blameless for the day of Christ. Are you ready for that day. Our Father Empowers what he expects his divine power has granted to us. It's all things that pertain to life and godliness. Through the knowledge of Him who called us to his glory and excellence are you seeking such empowerment as I read about Lauren. Brunner this weekend and thought about my father's sacrifice I was inspired to make job as prayer my own. If millions of men and women could give their best to serve our nation. I can give my best to serve my Lord. Here's the problem. It is tempting to settle for less than our best when our good seems better than others. If we have not yielded to cultural pressure on abortion homosexual relations euthanasia et CETERA. Uh we can conclude that we are more moral than those who have but heterosexual sexual sin is sin as well. God cares for the poor as well was the unborn. He wants the best medical care for the indigent as well as the terminally ill and he wants us to champion all that he champions. I've noticed is that it is easier to preach against sins. I am not tempted to commit. Personally it is interesting that Jesus chose to be born in a secular stable rather than a religious religious shrine he chose for his first worshippers field hands who were ritually unclean and unwelcome at the Temple or synagogue. The first religious leaders who who met him were pagans from what we call a ran today. Jesus chose to make his home in Galilee of the gentiles neither he nor any of his apostles had had revenue training. None would be ordained as we know the term today in other words God intends his kingdom to extend to every corner of the culture. Not Not just the parts we call spiritual here. We discover a subtle but deadly temptation of the enemy. If he cannot lead us to reject all spirituality he will tempt to confine it to a day a morning habit a select group and to call ourselves good because we are better than some Abraham Kuyper said there is not a square inch in the whole domain of our human existence. Over which Christ who is sovereign over all. It does not cry mine. The more we are submitted to Jesus the more we can be used by him the more our lives count for what counts. Most I the more we experience his abundant life and are more than conquerors through him. Who loved us? How fully will you surrender to the sovereignty of Jesus? This is Christ today as you consider your urine giving opportunities please pray about donating to the Denison Forum. As is a Christian nonprofit organization. We rely on financial gifts to continue our mission of building a movement of Culture Changing Christians. All gifts will be matched up to total of one hundred fifty thousand dollars and are tax deductible for the year consider giving today at daily Article Dot Org. Did you now that the daily Article podcast is available on most major podcast platforms. 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Netflix And Dow Heavyweights Into The Earnings Confessional - Stocks To Watch Podcast, January 19
"Welcome to seeking Alpha stocks to watch whilst breakfast weekend edition our news teams weekend preview of IPO's earnings reports conference presentations investors FDA decisions Burns mentioned in other key invents that could impact stocks. Set you up for the week ahead of the markets. Subscribe to this podcast on Apple. PODCAST Google podcasts. spotify institure feature Jay's January nineteenth. I'm Dan Schwartzman in Farina Sherbro. We begin with a breakdown of the week ahead from seeking his news team Dow components. It's American Express IBM Intel Johnson and Johnson Procter and gamble and travelers our due to spill numbers next week as the earning season starts to ramp up the economic calendar Johnson reports on housing starts consumer prices in consumer sentiment during the four day trading week meanwhile world leaders at the Swiss ski resort of Davos. Host are expected to make climate change issues a major topic at the World Economic Forum. The huge sustainability pledges from Goldman Sachs Microsoft and blackrock Iraq recently have increased the focus on what sustainability plays potentially be lurking out there in the wild among other notable earnings reports this week our UBS CBS group Net flicks United Airlines Texas Instruments Abbot Laboratories Kimberly Clark Union Pacific in comcast. You can find a full list of earnings reporters. There's on seeking Alpha by clicking on earnings calendar in the news tab one of the more riveting reports of the week will be delivered by Netflix on January twenty first streamers updating on a quarter that included new competition from the Apple TV plus and Disney plus launches and precedes the entrance of NBC Universal Peacock Service. And Warner media's Age B O Max. Investors will be watching to see if Netflix matches guidance for seven point six million global streaming paid editions six hundred thousand new subscribers. The view for twenty twenty will also be crucial see how subscriber growth is modeled and if there are any new pricing developments. Co Reed Hastings CFO CFO. Spence Newman chief content officer Ted Serandon chief product officer. Greg Peters will participate in a live video interview hosted by Guggenheim as the company continues to forsake sake. The traditional conference call with QNA from analysts net flicks heads into the report with momentum up twenty three percent over the last ninety days options trading on Netflix suggests suggests move up or down up to around eight percent for shares after the earnings report drops. AMD is set to launch. Its new ten. Eighty P focused radio on our x fifty six hundred x t chip on Jane Rejoin. I The new graphics processor is described by the company as the ultimate choice for ten eighty p gaming in reaction to the MD Development Nevada's reportedly cutting prices on its G. force are twenty sixty and founders edition cards scene launching. It's G folks are thirty. Eighty graphics card. In June Disney's California theme park scenes. Tendons boost I from a new star. Wars ride that just opened Needham expects the media company to break even on the cost of the rise of the resistance ride in about five years based on estimate for seven hundred fifty thousand incremental visitors a year the Florida version of the ride has been operating at full capacity since opening in December last year theme parks account for about eleven percent of Disney's total revenue. It's all things aluminum this week at the SNP Global Plaza Womb Symposium Liam Twenty Twenty in Hollywood Florida where producers extruders traders plant operators manufacturers recyclers in transporters will gather talk shop the conversations over the impact in the aluminum industry of the trade war supply and demand dynamics and pricing fluctuations could be relevant for out co aluminum century. Aluminum can stallion in. I've has series B. Bloomberg aluminum self index total return. Atn Holders tells you. Advisory Group has opposed Holiday Conference call scheduled for January twenty first to cover holiday retail sales. The boating sector has a major trade show running adding New York next week. Several firms are meeting with voting company management in post ratings updates. The National Marine Manufacturers Association is also due to post listen industry update. There's also monthly data due out from the Recreational Vehicle Industry Association next week even though the winters typically slow period for the RV V.. Industry keep an eye on camping. World Holdings Winnebago Thor Industries. Lci Industries in Patrick Industries Vegas casinos looking for a big weekend. After conor McGregor entered the cage yesterday for UFC. Two four six to face off against Donald Cowboy cerrone a McGregor. UFC fight fight weekend has generated as much as a six point. Four million dollars for the Las Vegas metropolitan area in the past. According to an economic impact study casinos will also be looking to break. Take a two month streak of falling growth when the Nevada gaming board issues. It's monthly gaming wind report for December caesars entertainment MGM Resorts Boyd Gaming Winter Resorts was Vegas Sands Full House resorts and red rock resort. Hope to see the monthly tally. Stay above the one billion dollar level this week embarrassed mentions the stocks and themes drawing attention. Barron's weekly addition. The cover story. This week is rather bullish by making the case. Why the Dow won't stop the Thirty Thousand Apple? Microsoft J. P. Morgan Chase and Goldman Sachs are set out as examples of blue chips that are paying dividends and buying back shares at a rapid clip gaps clan to cancel the old Navy spinoff. It's called good news for shareholders. The company retailer is said to no longer face one hundred sixty two two hundred million dollars hours of expected this synergies Matthew Twenty five why. CG ENHANCED AND MFS Massachusetts Investors Growth Stock Fund a hey are mentioned as the top sustainable funds. We end this week. Stocks to watch with our single stock focus this week we're looking at spirit aerosystems holdings things ticker symbol as PR. In light of Boeing's continued seven. Thirty seven Max. Issues and a recent short case from seeking Alpha author. Dan Stringer on the suck. Company trades at sixty seven dollars thirty cents per share as a Friday January seventeen with the market cap of about seven billion dollars an enterprise value of seven point seven billion billion dollars. Well that suggests a clean balance sheet and spirit aerosystems is likely to achieve its third consecutive year of earnings growth when they report two thousand nineteen nineteen full year earnings. The aerospace parts supplier is heavily. Reliant on its Boeing relationship as stringer points out the company discloses Boeing as a source of eighty eighty percent of its revenue embiid. Seven thirty seven parts is nearly seventy percent of its Boeing deliveries which adds up to over fifty percent revenue as spirit also disclosed in a recent press alise announcing layoffs. That announcement came after Boeing confirmed a freeze on seven thirty seven Max production as of January first two thousand twenty spirit does have a pending acquisition of Bombardier related assets. That will die. First fights revenue base that close in the first half of this year and will drawn spirits. Credit line squeeze from the Boeing issues comes as no surprise. Spirit received a recent debt rating downgrade to be a two at the hands of Moody's which said quote spirits acquitted profile will quickly and materially erode in the absence mitigating developments that remains largely out of the company's control. The question is as always. What's priced into? The stock stringer built a model to estimate the impact of seven thirty seven Max production action being shut down all year more on that in a moment as well as the incorporation of the Bombardier revenues which stringer gives spirit full credit for in twenty twenty as well as any layoffs related savings. The full picture sees revenue dropping forty five percent year over year and earnings dropping to two point. Five six six dollars per share that compares to analysts projections of four point seven four dollars per share as we speak and trailing twelve months. EPS of six point one dollars per share as PR's recent multiple of eleven times would get you a share price of twenty eight dollars nearly six percent lower than the current level. And even if you give in recent multiples of Eighteen Times or even twenty four times earnings at that keep. Es Level The stock were lower. Stringer brings in one other other nuance to this story. Boeing is a Dow component and a member of many indices the growth in passive management means. Funds are flowing to Boeing. Despite the company's these issues as index funds have to buy Boeing regardless of the fundamentals that keeps Boeing afloat relative to the Max concerns and it may be that investors taking spirit. As the proxy to bet against Boeing. There's something binary to the story which is where the debate in the Commons stream of stringers. Article comes into play as well as other bullish mentions on the stock. On seeking Alpha if Boeing restarts ramps 737 Max production spree search benefit. The question is primarily. When is that likely to happen? And what is priced into the stock. Currently stringers argument. Is that with this. The story there always seems to be another shoe to drop and one could be skeptical but a quick return to production for Boeing which is not yet in EPS projections overall seeking Alpha contributors average out as neutral on the stock with two bowls. stringers bear in the last three months sell outside analysts also come out. Neutral with eleven out of seventeen analysts rating this ahold only four analysts calling this a by seeking out quite rating is more bearish on the stock doc. As a result of the earnings revisions negative momentum in the shares. The question is whether there's more to come that concludes this week. Stocks talks to watch. Thank you for listening for the best. Investment Analysis. News on the web goes seeking Alpha DOT COM subscribe. podcast on apple podcast Google podcasts spotify. stitcher consign them for other podcasts. Including behind you idea essays for F.a.s.t let's talk. 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