20 Episode results for "Eight Thousand Feet"
3 Questions To Ask With Every Opportunity - Dave Woodward - CFR #453
"Welcome to click bottles radio where we go behind the scenes and uncovered the tactics and strategies, top entrepreneurs are using to make more sales dominate their markets, and how you can get those same results. Here's your host Dave Woodward. Well, everybody I'm actually up in the mountains I'm taking time away from. Workers of July week, and it has been a crazy crazy year so I thought I'd take my wife and she died head up in the mountains for a couple of days and bring our kids later and just kind of walk through. And slow things down and just kind of enjoy life of it so I'm actually loving it. She's doing a podcast right now, so I've snuck away to podcast as well and I thought he was kind of fun to. Talk about some of the things that are are going on and you're GonNa hear some birds chirping background things apologize for that, but just wanted to let you know where I'm at the setting and everything else. It's absolutely gorgeous, beautiful, blue sky up in the mountains out Eight thousand feet, trees and It was. Kind setting of what I WANNA talk about and that is. Three questions to ask yourself whenever your face an opportunity. And this is a thing. I get asked about all the time. Especially for entrepreneurs, business owners like. How do you know when too much risk is how? How much risk is too much risk. And what are you willing to do it in? How do you make a decision? And I get faced with all these different things opportunities coming out? I don't know which ones to say. Yes, to which wants to say no to, and actually was having this conversation with my son Chandler about this a few days few weeks ago. Now this whole idea of how do you make decisions when you're faced with great opportunities and you're just trying to juggle. Juggle it all and fear things out so I can tell you. There's three different things that I. Always pay attention to whenever I am looking at an opportunity. The first thing is the easy one and that's. What's the upside you know if I take this opportunity. What an amazing things that can happen and I little we'll take. Take the time in in right down on paper. Exactly what's going on and what all the potential upside is and. Some of it all really blue sky. If everything was absolutely perfect, this could happen. That could happen and here's the potential revenue opportunity here. The potential people I could meet these potential joint ventures. I could do these. I'll go through all of that kind of stuff and really try to blue skies much as possible and wants still looking at the upside I then we'll scale back a little bit and say okay. What's the realistic upside? And, where would I really think opportunity could end? The second thing is what is the downside, and this is probably the part that most of us not really wants to pay attention to or really consider for me. It's literally is one of the most important parts, and now what is the actual downside? What is the worst thing that could happen and I literally will go to the. Bottom of the pit here to kind of figure out you know. What is the worst thing if this thing goes bad, am I gonNA lose one hundred thousand dollars I mean. It was a million dollars. What is my family going to say? What are the what's going to be reaction and I'm looking not only at just dollars and cents on looking at emotional impact I'm looking at the the people impact. Reputation about literally everything so understand what I'm looking at a lot of opportunity. It's not just a dollars and cents thing you've got to be able to think right. Brain left brain. You gotta bring the emotions in. You gotTa bring the analytic side in and I will document all on paper, and this becomes a a pretty all inclusive. List trying to really come up with as much as possible to give people as many I give my mind. Really the ideas of what's what's going to happen here. And then the next question is the most important one, and that is am I comfortable with the downside? That's the third question and really is the most important question that is the question that is going to. Determine what my answer is in. That is if I find that I'm not if I can't live with. That, Worst case situation that downside than I really am not GonNa do the deal. There are certain things where I'm I'm just not willing to take that high of a risk. And every single person that risk is different. There's emotional risk. There's financial risk, but you really have to consider. What is the worst thing naked happen? Chance are actually might so you've got? You've got to be comfortable with that? And I think that too often. People aren't willing to really go there. And as I was talking with my son about it, the idea behind is if you can get comfortable and I truly mean feeling the emotional comfort of that happening I, mean I may be bankrupt I may actually have to move in with my family with my parents I may be I mean those are realities. If this thing goes bad. If, you're comfortable with that and you feel good about it and you can live with it. You know that's the kind of stuff you need to be paying attention to. Everyone has a different barometer of of security and risk, and there's not a right or wrong. It literally becomes what you get what you feel comfortable with. I know some people. Security is so high. There's absolutely no in the world. They would ever consider going out on their own, even though they're super smart. And all the all the answers and also they've got tons of opportunity the fear of going out on their own that risk is too high and there's nothing wrong with that. So for me I think I'm GonNa take a look at is what's the upside second thing? What's the downside? The most important part, and that can I live with it can I emotionally physically live if the downside happens, can I deal with that and accepted and be okay with it if I'm not. I'M NOT GONNA take on that risk. and. This is based on again depending where you're at in your life depending what your financial situation depending on your age situation. There's a lot of things that come into play here. The other thing that when you have other people involved in your life, you really need to consider just kind of. A three. Question Three sub topic and that is is your spouse or your significant other. Are they covered with that risk? Are they comfortable with the worst thing happening? Are they. GonNa lead you. If they're gonNA. Leave you if that happens not in my own personal opinion. That's too high of a risk. I wouldn't take that risk. Others relationships like you know what I'm. Okay if they leave, that's something you've got to come to grips with. But realize these are things that you've got to. When you're looking at an opportunity, you've got be able to really face. Face the facts based the emotion and be able to deal with it, and it's important that your significant other or spouse. Isn't that same situation? Feel comfortable with it if they don't then, it's a different situation different questions. You've got to ask yourself if you're willing to take on that kind of a risk, so those are the main things I look at. And realized again. Everyone's situation is unique, but as an entrepreneur you have to get really good at identifying upside downside and Most importantly that gut check and I can tell you for myself I've learned over all these years. I've been involved in some crazy crazy deals some that have gone great and some that have literally. been the worst thing ever and. I'm grateful that I learned a long time ago. I'm really grateful. Someone taught me this lesson that. You're going to be okay if that happens. Because sometimes it happens, and sometimes it's even worse than you happen than you thought it was going to be so you've got to be comfortable if you're not don't take that risk, you know. I've got I've counseled and consulted with a lot of. Entrepreneurs and business owners over the years and you know someone like well. When do you make that leap from entrepreneur to full-time or from you know being an employee to leave that and going fulltime as an entrepreneur and I'm like everyone is different for me personally. I wanted to make sure. I had a minimum of three months savings. I can tell you globally speaking. I would say just from just due to the fact. How important security is for a lot of people and you've got family and spouse? You Might WanNa. Make sure you have six months and can that's literally if you had to live for the next three months without any income coming in, can you do it and if you can't then, maybe that's why risk, please understand. That was my comfort level. Once I had saved up that kind of money and I felt like talk to my spouse. Listen if we don't make any money. For the next three months. Are you okay of living on our savings and she was. So, realize you've got to be able to be in that kind of situation. I think the part that most people don't realize you have as a business owner entrepreneur. You've got to get really good at understanding the numbers. Too often, we just think I'll just go out and I'll just make more and I've I've played that game for years. That, only last so long eventually you gotta be able to really know what the numbers in how how do those numbers impact me? Not only financially. How impact me emotionally so with that said I just want to jump out here. Real quick and give you a couple of thoughts and ideas about what are the three three questions I always ask whenever I'm looking at an opportunity. Hope that make sense you guys most importantly i. hope that you are able to use in your own life. And, if you're just kinda getting started in this game and one of the things, we always recommended or one frontal challenge, so if you haven't taken them on the way challenge by all means, please go side up at one funnel way dot. com and you can dive in and really. Taste what it's building funnels and getting experience doing these kind of things. WAY CHALLENGE DOT com we'll talk soon. Bye.
EP 14 Do you have a Marketing Plan?
"Welcome to the seven figures salon podcast. I'm your host selena. Gibson founder straight hair solutions and creator of the seven figure in your salon training academy. If this is your first time with us welcome because each week we go over the seven pillars to the seven figure roadmap map which after almost two decades in the salon and retail business these pillars have become my best practices for success and and what i love about the pillars as that they are complete from your mindset which if our mind isn't right in strong. How can we show up as our best s. selves to our lifestyle. All the other pillars talk about business but the whole point of business is to support a lifestyle and we've all been there where we get burned out or we look back and say what am i doing all this for while these pillars remind us what we're doing wing it for because if you're not taking care of yourself your business will suffer so this week we are on episode fourteen which is marketing so a question. I often pose to business owners. People i meet out and about or have worked with west is i'll ask them. Just what business are you in and nine times out of ten. They'll say a hairstylist salon owner or i'm a sales professional or whatever the business that they're in but my response back always kind of throws them off and especially sean farren some type of business that relies on sales. I will tell him you realize you're in the business of marketing. You're basically marketer marketer and then i always get this puzzled look because in my opinion any business that relies on sales their number one businesses marketing getting so what is marketing you ask right. I mean there's there's so many different ways. People throw marketing around marketing advertising advertising marketing is the action of promoting your business which you need to be doing all the time teaching your customers. I widely should choose your product or service over a competitor. I mean that that's really what marketing is. Why do i go to a._b._c. z. Car wash versus the one that's closer to my house because i like the way that they make my car smell or like how fast they are or that. They offer me water or whatever that might be for you. Really marketing is telling the customer in teaching them. Why your better so my a question to you is do you have a marketing plan for the months for the quarter or the year d. Do you make a plan for your business for strut. I do a monthly and quarterly for me. A year is a little far out <hes> to manage and dan since i like to revisit my plan at least quarterly this works for us <hes> i also like quarterly because as new products come out aw or new services i wanna try or offer <hes>. If it's a year it's it's just too far. I actually i do most all of my goal setting budgets and everything on a quarterly basis because we've talked about this before i believe in the mindset or strategy when you're setting i plans up and stuff you wanna be able to not be so rigid in your plan and have room to be flexible so for me. <hes> quarterly planning and monthly planning provides that flexibility so the other thing is if you stop marketing after awhile sales can dip hip at least in my experience in retail <hes> so if you think about it. Why does mcdonalds still advertise right. You see the commercials marshal's you. Everybody knows there's mcdonalds but they get it. They know when you're hungry. They wanna be top of mind. I i know when my client starts losing hair or the doctor tells her you know she's gonna need a wig or any kind of. It's you my client. Might have i want to be the first one she thinks about when she's looking for my products or services and i've really always kind kind of run my business like that and that's how i've always thought about marketing i mean i want to be the first thing that they think think about so because i mean because we're always there right and gosh boy has marketing changed over the years so there used to be t._v. Radio and newspaper those were basically the top ones. Maybe you would do some direct mail and i used all those three eh which with much success in my business when i first started out <hes> at least the first five years oh and i forgot the <hes> yellow pages right right like the big dollar bill size ads but that was seventeen years ago and then i remember the ads getting smaller i went from a dollar size sized add to them a business card size right because all this internet stuff started coming out and the landscape changed and now i'm focusing on pay per clicks and instagram email marketing and i'm still learning how to use all of these platforms because this stuff takes takes a lot of time to master <hes>. I don't know how long you've had your business but when i first started <hes> t._v. And radio the or or the newspaper they always had a sales rep that would come out and give you data and they kind of did all the hard work for you you know and i'm sure that that fee was put into the advertising somewhere well with internet marketing. Nobody comes out and shows you how to do it or you're paying these <hes> s._e._o. Companies a ton of money and the problem with those types of businesses is it's not easy to see. It's not transparent. What are they doing in the cost thousands of dollars and that's not always including then your paper cliques and stuff. I mean that's separate. You might pay two thousand dollars a month to s._e._o. Company but then you still have to pay a thousand dollars a month to google for your paper clicks so you really have to take the time to master this and be patient with yourself. I have to remind myself of that. <hes> i do a lot of research and stuff breath with how to manage the analytics because if i'm having a conversation with my s._e._o. Company because i do have one i definitely don't wanna be on the disadvantage of not knowing what they're talking about. I know just enough to annoy them with questions <hes> but it's made for a great relationship and i've actually had the same company for i believe three years and i was just on the phone with them. I talked to them every other tuesday <hes> for catch up meeting and i was on the phone and he told me i was like their longest running client his it was some guys that had just graduated from school and i kind kind of grew up in that with them and it's been awesome and there have been very supportive of my business as i have been there and i've definitely seen the difference difference in our social media and online return on investment which would be your r._o._i. But next after you come up with that you have a plan next. I want you to come up with a budget so this kind of stuff can get very expensive so i. I don't recommend spraying around at all with us. You really need to be thorough because there are a lot of different best practices on budgeting for marketing now for me at strut. I project what i want my year in revenue to be k. So what do i wanna make in the year and then dan i base my budget off of that how much growth in my projecting this year or want to try to attain and that's kind of how i pick that i i hear too many salon owners business owners who don't have a plan or a budget in their marketing and i really feel like that's a mistake i almost i still like marketing. Sometimes gets left to the side because we have so many things pulling on us from the daily fires in our businesses to the bills as we have to pay the product we have to order you know but the marketing gets left to the side and the marketing is what gets us the customers boomers to make the sales which keeps our business going which is why this is such a roller coaster. When you are small business you know and the other the thing though that i love about being a small business is every day is different. I get to become an expert at so many different facets. Where if you're a big inc you have one person that does all the marketing or better yet. You have a marketing department with many people or you know you have a purchasing department etc while with a small business the nice thing is i have my fingers kind of in everything and i know just talk about all the all the <hes> what's the word just all the facets of my business and i like to know that and i feel like that has made me very successful. I've also seen clients cut their marketing off. When sales are down and i feel like that is a big no-no retail can can go up and down. Salons can go up and down. I mean when i had my auto repair. It went up and down. You've got to be consistent assistant. I feel why consistency is key. <hes> i don't agree with cutting in your marketing <hes>. I know that some people cut there because you can't cut your rent. You cannot cut your p._g. Or s._d._g. Near any of those other bills that you have so so those are fixed costs right. I mean you're going to get that bill. Every month your marketing bills they're not fixed and you can cut them and they seem not necessary but truly those are the most important ones because as i've always said ourselves. Pillar is the one that keeps assistant business but the marketing pillar sets us up for the sales. We've got to get the customers in the door where the clients whatever you call your people that purchase your products <hes> you have to have a way to get them and you have to stay top of mind with them and so that's something that i don't do a lot of studying on and and work on often because people people change generations are different. What speaks to one generation does not speak the same to another so even with ours <hes> on social media we stay with facebook while we post different photos to facebook book because that is a very different client fan who were posting to on instagram because of course that's a much younger client and one one platform is more photos in hashtags. One platform is more videos but now that facebook has bought instagram the the i feel like they're gonna get a lot more similar and i've seen some of that with their backend dashboards than taking the time to read the dashboards. Look at your analytics. We've we've just started doing that on tuesdays as well <hes> before our staff meetings i go through all of our dashboards to see you know. How many new do <hes> followers do. We have how many have we lost seems like that. Number never really changes because by the time you get new ones and some old ones drop off but that's one of my goals now is doing more with our social media because there's so much room for growth. Excuse me an marketing is making a relationship with your clients. That's actually what i. I think that i changed that definition. It's building relationship with your clients because has people buy from people. They like know and trust and buy marketing. They get to know who we are. They get to like micheals and then they trust us so when they need our product or service whether they're buying a car or they're buying hair they trust us and then they'll come to us so that's just some food for thought for you to think about and also <hes> they used to say that clients need to see your ad or marketing seven times to elicit a response will now. That's as much as twelve twelve times. I just saw that in an article. I wanna tell you was in entrepreneur magazine or something. I'm sure you can google it. I know it's more because people are now now inundated with ads everywhere when they're scrolling on social media if they're watching tv if they're driving down the road there's <unk> ads listening to what is that x._m. Radio i mean unless someone's pain to remove the ads. They're they're getting inundated all the time every day. So what can you do to make your ad stand out. I think that's what i'll talk about next time. We get around again to marketing because i think that's huge now. Let's say you've made your budget. You've made your plan. But how do you make your stuff stand out so it is very important <hes> to make sure that that's why you're there. That's why you're consistent because you're a marketer and you're in the business of marketing so so i have to tell you <hes> last week was a replay if you if you caught that i was in colombia at a leadership conference inference for women and boy does that take ten out of me. I just got back last night so i'm still a little kind of dizzy that the altitude was like eight thousand feet where i was at in boca but oh my goodness there was so much information and networking i always come back so excited and just ready ready to light the world on fire so with that i wanted to mention something we have coming up in san diego our second seven figures salon intensive he says next month i'd love to see you all there because we're gonna go over the seven killers more indepth plus you get that peer to peer networking now. Here's the catch we only have fifteen spots because we're going to really dig deep and foster an intimate environment because i don't know about you but when i go to a training and there's hundreds of people there i kind of feel lost. You don't really get to talk to the host or whoever's putting on the event and even the one that i went to hugh that i just came back from last night. I met some amazing women that i will probably be friends with like the rest of my life but that's only five five out of the eighty of us that were there so it made me feel good about the fact that ari vents are fifteen people because when you leave i want you to have fifteen eighteen partners <hes> possible so at this sounds appealing to you and you may be just even wanted to check it out visit the seven figures salon forward slash the seven figure intensive for more details so i've got you back to my emails now. I've got an all nighter probably to pull after being gone on <hes> for the week and then back to the studio tomorrow for love. Tuesday's got everything going on so if you got value from this episode on marketing it's my goal that you did please subscribe rate us and until next week to your success.
Kevin Day, Retired U.S. Navy Senior Chief Operations Specialist (UFO)
"Is Your cell phone bill out of control than this is your wake-up call the new track phone wireless gives you mm-hmm we're at the UFO Congress in Phoenix Twenty nine thousand nine hundred and I've got a fascinating chief operations specialist who specialize in radar systems he's a top gun air four off the coast of San Diego he was the radar operator on the USS Princeton the time and it's a much bigger story than people know than just that little video they saw Rick Evan as little as a few days before the tic TAC day I could even go back a little further than that oh by the way our entire Strip was not out there was a couple of other players not there anyway at any rate we're all out to sea and our intention is on or about the tenth of November a wind up there or maybe I was even on watch going one hundred knots and that's extremely slow right that should fall it should fall straight out of the relative relative position just tracking down in knowing of experience that radar system at that point you so it's up to me to this and we use things like flight profile is it going really fast situational awareness on the computer in my head and the same with in our knowing in CIC and we were the air defence commander for had any they weren't even aware that we we were there until the fourteenth of November as long on Kevin you said fourteenth so that's four days did it happen ten eleven twelve thirteen happened and if you were to add them all up over the course of six days or so about hundred objects she the raw radar are the same height and that seems to be or similar theater ballistic missile defense watched anders do watch outerspace high altitudes they went from eighty thousand feet down to twenty eight thousand feet were that's where my you in yours at twenty eight yeah any adversary aircraft isn't GonNa fly and then on the fourteenth go ahead I had designed a major air defense exercise we're going to do a mock battle we're going to launch a bunch aircraft I've got these unknown other objects in disguise and what is he looks at me and says you know what chief your rag dude so the airborne and so he happened to get the intercept order and he went we vector up towards okay yeah he can fight to fight or to aircraft they usually fly in to Burch is when you got to objects in the sky and now they're in the same vertical aged engaged in what you know we're in a training environment under the surface of the Ocean in point seven eight seconds that's beyond assigned boom but the pilots themselves said there was no sonic booms right wow I think they figured it I was about thirteen hundred fifty g's cheeses there's whatever it was it was not an Tony and it yeah I'm thinking now okay now we just entered the realm of the bizarre here when he gets down and he sees a disturbance in the lottery he comes on the rails Charlie the person's craft was long and had two things sticking out and that I'd down in that object kind of reacted to him in the got engaged again in exciting yeah rejoin kind of like a birdie whatever how many of that point okay because you only went up for functional check flight uh he pulled it the Palestinian was chat underwood which you've recently become public information the video that we all see that's the equipment that filmed it to fragrant in around the ship at this point like what the hell yeah at least on the Princeton I my situation it was raining. UFO's just one event chasing one at a time and it is raining all over the yeah they come out of this Nisa unfold on the screen you've got to be going out of your mind that this is and you see keep doing what they're doing they acted like they were alive they're they just didn't exhibit any type of threatening profiles we approached them they just it's raining UFO's strangely no now everybody was talking things like flight profile Flan really high and really fast flying really low pieces of the puzzle together to ascertain Id it's educated guesswork you know right that's good that's what I hope you guys would be glad be freaking out but you guys are so playing yet then he sees yep he intercepted one and that's video online now is legitimate because I got that same snippet in the impact file little snippet out it could he was excited to show it off and he sent it over supernet or secret email in and we cancelled the air defense exercise that's pretty much how it ended so we we left them going back yeah aware enough to write down the latte latitude longitude where they all all faded off interesting every one of them in what I mean by that is I'm looking when Llewelyn came to interview me in July last year eh something's going on over there so when this guys check all your so we weren't sure if this may have been a system function because member we're up in a gaming architecture environment I think maybe something so we brought down the system down brought it back up before unbelievable unbelievable so the next day after that captain captures on the Princeton In fact I was so concerned that a got up you know records Oliver External Communications Oliver Radio comes onto an optical disc and lo and behold okay and so that this never happens probably you always have that desk right protocol in that I've ever
Though Closed To The Public, Bryce Canyon Still Teems With Life
"We're going to spend a few minutes now in Bryce Canyon National Park that's in Utah. At typically visitors flocked there this time of year as winter melts into spring but Bryce Lake other national parks is closed due to cove in nineteen. So we got in touch with Park Ranger. Peter Dennis Moore. He is Visual Information. Specialist at Bryce sharing photos videos of the parks deep red canyons and towering rocky. Who's on social media? But we asked him what the park sounds like right now. Without the home of hikers tourists spring comes late here at eight thousand feet. Were still kind of in what feels like the tail end of winter. Not Quite sure whether or not to start fully celebrating spring or to be braced for a snowstorm. We're coming into the breeding season and so the birds are coming in with beautiful plumage as well as their most complex songs. I'm personally waiting for the humming birds to return once they've returned to the park. It's safe to begin really celebrating. Spring and Summertime Utah Prairie Dog. They make quite a lot of sound to and often what we're hearing from them. Are these keeping squeaks. Often of their alarm calls take the time to observe these colonies. Find your attention drawn to things that you might not have noticed that the cradock certainly maybe coyote Red Fox or a Golden Eagle or some other rafter above visitation is usually on its way up spring break beginning in March usually signals unofficial beginning to our season. It's surreal to have visitors here and understanding the history of the National Park Service in our national parks. I've found that you can't ignore the fact that their existence has been so dependent on often individuals. You know that were transformed by these landscapes to the point that they engaged in advocacy for them or or made other remarkable acts on their behalf. That without which you know we might not even have them as national parks today. Being outdoors is really just provided a sense of stability in uncertain times. I actually feel kind of unique pressure to step up to this moment and try to provide people a window into this place thinking about a Mary. Oliver quote that the world's otherness is antidote to confusion. And standing in that other nece can re dignify a worse stung hard. That's Peter Dinsmore ranger at the currently closed Bryce Canyon National Park in Utah.
ep 032 The Disc Course A Disc Golf Podcast
"The away from any kind of big city and you know it's kind of late and we were hiking on the trail and as kind of a rough trail going up to glacier point we didn't take like the what's going on ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the discourse here Mike what's going on but not much variations but I tore the AC ligament that connects Mike Clavicle to like my shoulder. That's exactly what armed broken I broke both my arms now I didn't break either one of my arms but one of my arms is in a sling my throwing arm is actually in a sling and my friends he loves an OCHRE California it's like right outside the south gate of Yosemite but it's an hour we're the I wear the brace and it starts to hurt after a bit and then I take offense like this medium that goes like up and down like if I have it off if I have an offer too long it starts to hurt rain I swear I thought I thought it was broken because the next day so my Buddy Mike Matthews one of my oldest dearest it'll be better than probably a few more days how long on your shoulder four weeks what would you what would you do we want to get right into it I saw my collarbone my collarbone was pulled out it wasn't like I thought it was a dislocated shoulder I because I could feel like this bone sticking out you know right there at the shoulder and I'm like those in the nose it all for me man how about yourself oh you just got back from an eventful trip to Kelly looks like we'll get into that a double double stretches and I take it out and stretch it on my can throw right now like it feels weird a little tight like I feel like the bones not quite settled right but I feel like I'm not I just feel you know what I mean just like oh I'm fine my left is a little tender when I it's Weird Coll- is your collarbone yes so yes my collarbone is not attached to my shoulder I mean that's yeah Ooh I mean it sounds like it would hurt humorist way like he you know he knows some back bacterial and it's not like it's not like mountain climbing talk I was like free scale mainly what Hap- like like what the actual environment are yes so most commonly known as shoulder separation though I've done that there's something wrong with it or maybe it's just like giant not that form because I like hit a rock or something so let's wait and see until the morning but yeah there's one point I was laying on the ground and yeah brutal I mean like it didn't hurt that bad when it happened but like Pete Mike they're like Oh my God title for too long it's hurting type like Susan I put it on her take it off it's like relief compression also gets too much it is I swear like I didn't even know how it would I'm like how's this thing just reset itself but it it I can feel like the ligaments like pulling it town probably well it was kind of late and I I thought it was just likes I thought it was dislocated and I was kind of in shock about already your shoulder I was I was training as a pro wrestler trying move me and my buddy never seen springboard Tornado DT novick deal look it up don't worry a football player out for like three weeks you know well I separated my shoulder years and years and years ago like you haven't much cooler story about how she the training ground was like Oh yeah just keep rotating and you'll be fine and I kept doing that at like it must've been like two in the morning because my mom was at work 'cause she deliver the newspaper Super Mike was sitting on his sitting on the ground holding me by my wrist with his foot on my neck in my armpit and he was like pulling the bone sticking out like I didn't even really notice my left wrist until the next day but uh then it was like I don't know it was like pretty late by the time we got out of I don't think he helped yourself at on time it's not real you know what I mean it's it's not that big a deal like if I don't know like this put left wrist is in a pretty heavy duty splint thing we're going to get into left year round or something I just spread my laughter that's hike back down the trail and got back to his place and then I was like let's just wait until the morning see I feel because I'm like you know it says in the morning it was like my Cyprian broke my right wrist about like five years ago and then in the morning my left I don't know if like the shock had subsided just located but like it didn't really it didn't really hurt and I even had like we looked up videos like how to reset one ooh and it's exactly what you WanNa do on vacation there right in like a month later after we tried it out ourselves on raw either way not a Manhattan it like I don't know let's see two o'clock in the afternoon and everyone going back in you're supposed to keep it keep it in the in the sling day and then but like once a day take it out Lina a cliff face just like a steep trail and I lost my footing and fell backwards in a tumbled over a couple of times and it hurts so bad I couldn't move my feet without my shoulder was nuts so I hope hope for a speedy recovery for you man because it took me a few months so I mean feel like Mardi I feel very go through I'm not going to don't do it but yeah so we waited until the morning but back down because like they're still like tiny little bump but like before it was like like you know the daycare looks like it was going to tear the skin Did you drive like the hour into the I and I even have matthews like pulling on like one point he healing on it was hold it we'll do I mean we looked it up and then I was like after it's not separate it's not a it's not dislocated only through my envy you just say it was at Church that church yeah wait wait you only three you're heavy putting driving boom that's it all these guys don't discuss these are like my two old friends for high school golf and I brought they're like yeah we'll go we'll go play the new a nine late at night see everyone got there early morning news but I called her up at like two two thirty in the morning and I was like I gotta go to the hospital yeah but then we had to drive an hour through these mountain roads and it's just like every every little every every little turn their paved but like it's like why do you like I came to life yeah I was like it's broken it's broken can't move at it feels exactly like it did when I broke my right wrist sucks but it wasn't it was just a sprain oh you know what I mean they like saw it happen to like do I saw you break your neck a crack your head open I'm like night at my I'm good I'm like my show I'm like my shoulder hurts but like I'm fine and I was like look I got full range now the Sierra Nevada all that's protected yeah so I was like Damn and you know I was going to get these guys play real course because this thing is just like a nine hole like I the left right and like every time I like every time you turn to the left like leaned my right arm like against the because you can't predict from seeing bone sticking out or what but when I went to sleep and when I woke up I like woke up to the pain in my left wrist and I'm like what the is that like there's nothing wrong with my left wrist but then I swear like within like thirty minutes of me like being awake I was like all your literally another like two minutes down the road it's such a great way to burn off the days like frustration as well as the same I mean Yeah my love having is right there of course has opened up by Mike's House So we went to go play and I thought like I this is my one round I'm GonNa get in while I'm on vacation and then off trips to okay tell me where well let's don't again over and then I got my fifteen hundred points needed for football golf course okay no ball golf course seen is still like see like mountains yeah you're like yeah you're like you're not playing you're not the allegation did I mean we drove yeah so they're out there so we made a friendly wager no money or anything but as a guide nine holes we'll play we'll play eighteen afterwards they're like yeah there's you know there's a course in Yosemite we're gonNA drive violating the National Park Yeah there's a golf course there's a nine hole golf course invite two worlds all right where's world's next year I don't even know Orlando Orlando Okay Yeah so it's probably like three or four holes that are on the golf course that are like right on the main road and it's like pretty flat okay Yeah didn't really use the obviously extreme elevation that they had available it's like hundred ten yeah it was like one hundred ten foot holes all right yeah okay so they must've done pretty good then they'd be like barely even though they got like took a couple of bogeys was like yeah well it's like a Mike Dude I'm going to start play this course like it's like right by working like five minutes from his house it's like his work is only like five minutes away from his house and it's like it nine and I was like all right that's awesome we played another nine singles and I ended up beating them both by like worse when we just played nine as opposed to like the whole eighteen I bet you they ended up going there all the time like a weekend up in the country like an hour drive away you know we're right outside Detroit and you can go out and be like some beautiful country in Romeo hisses and you'll see it's called a loner if you look it up on some of the sites it's called big tree park but is it just frigging gorgeous yeah I mean you know Avenue Mike by like twelve that's awesome too I mean even as beginners being there they were like they're not yet they liked it and they were like let's play another yeah like this is a nine hole course you could one guy one disc you could play in about fifteen minutes that's wonderful do you know twenty seven and forty five minutes get home fine let's go and then as I was like damn it hurts and I was like holding it and then it wasn't until I moved my hand at the top of it I could feel my clavicle like protruding out gene the first night and you can play doubles second nine singles as I like like do you versus both of them we get yeah for seven yeah yeah but then they were like yeah we're GonNa go play the WanNa go seventy now and then I busted both my arms and didn't get to play real course while I was out there well that's okay I was nine strokes nine strokes I beat Pete by I I see like twelve stars at my house right yeah but so yeah next year I think I'm GonNa go I'm definitely going to go ready to go and then average reverse back this is before I even started playing with you this is probably about the time when I posted on facebook and I was like do I have any disco friends in the like you know they're not on our level you know I'm not tooting my horn or anything but like they like don't like to go play and get like smashed by twelve strokes right now feels pretty food I made a years and years and years and years and years ago the announced they're gonNA close CBGB's in New York and it was going to be the last year for Yankee Stadium I invited alleged against the ten year so they'll do something cool there will be some sweet players pack discs Anita and hold always great tournaments and then yeah I think was supposed to be a trip to flip city and we had all mapped out and we were going to get shirts made and it was going to be an annual thing I was gonna be called the flip trip and stops along the way we have these shirts designed go to world's when you should make about to flip man yeah we're supposed to you're supposed to plan some CISCO ROAD trip again email about yeah months ago FM good dude he plays open a lot filled strictly plays open. I mean it's very honorable yeah I mean he catches you know I've seen it what a bummer and what are you GonNa do I should go back next year next year I'm probably taking too I mean he's got a couple of open winds I mean I know he does but you know anybody can play open by the way when you sign up against the barely you know Johnson barely overplays he's not here right now but rarely rarely ever plays comes out with me brings his kid out there's you know some on his motorcycle either do feel like some of them don't WanNa play it like it's like you know me and like Bob Barker Phil Five minutes Damian Romeo's not like it's practically you say it it's the beginning of and then yeah but yeah driving our north you can ed but I mean who cares they think birdie that wants with like a seventy foot throw in probably as they try try this putter next time many goes up and it cleans up our ten foot par I think let me go over to three and I have a really good Dr ables classic How so tell you to get story actually so we're on hold too and so the about the only two three guys that continue to play we all got decent at it and I feel like none of those guys WanNa play with US anymore because they're not that's ridiculous yeah I've never parked to that that's out of my range I've gotten look post says sports twenty I think I mean it's a crappy twenty farther than that I think it's for King Yeah but you know like three fifty or so maybe there's a few years back I can get a little farther now you know like three fifty or so and and there I was like dude and then I'm like what you live right around the corner from me and I'm huge into it yeah never looked back don't play with any of those bums anymore facility down for something definitely do menu aren't you back it up that is for sure yeah dude it so hard to get people to commit even like when we first started playing disc golf I like fortieth or whatever I mean not that I would beat Phil ones new because he was playing left handed that is a beautiful sixty people to go to do this road trip and so many people responded I ended up going alone dude alone you know me I'm not about that life if I say I'm Gonna I have but we played a lot you know I mean whole three bryce or Bryson firefighters dude was parked man I've only part it myself like a handful of times with like a good putt and we're really good upshot if I can get past I said it like go up and leave them probably see like northern the northern lights on we were supposed to be able to see I'm here just a few weeks ago but there's too much there's too much light pollutioon yeah hiking we just took a little slower we went in climbed up Sentinel Dome like the day after I got back from the day after the hospital and as with Phil and we want like fifteen bucks each other than that now birdie on whole three firefighters net happening we didn't make it to the other one for obvious reasons Sunil dumps cool it's not the it's not the highest trees and looking pretty good but if I don't all then there's there's me and Judson Birdie debt in our at the first ever heiser nuts you know it's my my max distance and you know what I mean but I'm still it wasn't you know wasn't quite my mix we'll probably boss I think probably through King Al's away it's like they have like the map there and the shows like everyone labeled and it's like so lake pretty much like you know if you're looking straight across a couple of times a year but so he's putting on too and he throws it over and it's like almost at three steep head and I was like I was like forget that desk never happened really only you and Travis seem to be interested and he went and did it himself with a couple of other dudes which is awesome people are lame dude you can't get people to commit to anything so we've got some stuff to talk about today you just hear about injuries I mean that sounds like a great ship though no it wasn't the right time sitting in the back seat and you know I was in the front of the climate of the backseat L. Yeah but but the worst part about it how many people died trying to reach at the apex giving I do WANNA climb half dome one year my brother not above above sea level you can drive almost all the way there that's pretty and then it's like it's like a two mile hike from the parking lot I saw some of your pictures and they were those are all those are all the hardest climb or anything but it's it's right in the middle and you can see all the cool stuff like Brattleboro falls and half Dome like they have like a it's not a Sundial I just don't know what to call it it's like a plate and it seriously like a circle and you can stand and like whatever whatever like peak you're looking at that's like miles just for fun but like you know whatever like tree follower and they had to get rid of it like they did it and really creative ways I mean some navy your ears pop a little bit wants you know yeah but that's like a couple of rolling hills a thousand feet no anywhere maybe six hundred right also in the up but dude it's like it's spring that's like eighty feet deep personal or so but the water is so clear that you can see like coins so sentinel dome it's like eight thousand feet in elevation now like what you actually have to climb right right eight thousand feet it's it's hard to breathe up there though they we're lowlander is down here I have a Evans spent so much time in the mountains you know I go to I've been to Yosemite even after you beat your buddies yeah sounds like they're addicted now this happened like right in the middle of the trip to where I got hurt for the hawks we still went climbing again not climbing levels Mike has you know normally they try to vacation go up north for a weekend if I can you know what I mean where I live yeah yeah yeah like in Michigan it sounds awesome yeah half dome though is like it's the destination that's what I WANNA do it do it man he should yeah man because it's one hundred thirty eight percent sure he was on a demolition crew one year you know that means dude they just wouldn't blue shit up where some at Yosemite sometimes used to work at Yosemite he worked five years dude I mean half tones like the destination Al Yeah I've I've I've seen I've never been you seventy myself but I have seen it the peak across this like round wheel like you look down and it's like perfectly lined up like whichever peak it is like to tell you what it is you know no I sparkling off the bottom dude like ten thousand gallons of water rushed through that thing like a minute it's it's not stupid that's no swimming jed goes up to pot and I'm like try that I might try that potter I just gave you and I was like dude don't worry about Iran upper house where we're hundred feet away most all arm that's a shit that gets you addicted man yeah and then then I've done that like same thing pretty much once by myself I'm at home I think I only the one time I was the bridge is pretty old yeah I know it's all eventually it'll be torn down and they're gonNA tear down embassador put that it's like forty five degrees so jump forty five degrees Fahrenheit so that everything in the ups that's really really cold Bro in Mexico City boy while you're it's it's I was not born in Windsor Ontario Canada there's myself Detroit if you've ever heard that song there south and I think about Marquette is in the porcupines isn't it I think so I think about my cat is just like the name the people gave the ski area you ever been to catch a to be nope times or even just that you know but right like you know we usually go up north there's not like elevation in Michigan it's just like Woods Loreto educational sign that Oh yeah yeah just like every peak we like moving around and see what it is and it tells you how far away allegation in which I would not doubt it for a single second we don't need to puddles all too man I mean I feel like every time I drive you know just all I'm just stand there and deliver it just goes and pops it a couple of quick being throws it in for nine between like between like seventy one hundred Candida it's butthole Detroit that's Great Detroit only Detroit like downtown there is no neighborhood at least the Nella South Detroit yeah you can live downtown in like an apartment building but yes selfish rate would be Windsor Ontario like if you even if you go up to the up amount marquette I don't even think is like three thousand four times yeah those aren't how many how big are those no I'm just kidding they're good guys but not many of them really played golf now dropped out they all seemed to be adults now or something well see I run into a couple of them at brize oh it was not but okay well it was built plate probably close to one hundred years when Judson was nineteen stole his ID so I could go to Canada in America there literally that comes out there is a bridge and they're building another one the bridge and tunnel do we really need that I mean I think that's looks like a rigorous it's well you know there's a trail that takes up the back we don't have to climb the face of it no let's make sure she's shown me no no boats it's only it's just a big pond but it's big it's big and awesome no no swimming no swimming allowed no no into the water seriously leaks I feel like that I don't know I haven't been through the years but it was always so in twenty years ago your brother my brother's a frigate in Maine you're probably scaled the face I wouldn't doubt I'll climb up waterfalls he's just he's a maniac get truck Johnson Johnson will be thirty eight tomorrow so it's been nineteen years that's what he wished him happy fortieth earlier today yeah so it'll be nineteen years since that happened tomorrow in twenty nine thousand nine of us directly South Canada but I forget the tunnel shady because I just told you about the last but when over there and a buddy of ours Meta check and they didn't look comfortable we we turn around and walk the other way smoke in our Cuban cigar one of the one of the last times I was in Canada not the I can remember it was so my nineteenth birthday the wings one Stanley Cup two thousand eight no how old do you think I tried uh-huh I was there dude these cops to throw this drunk dude who is in a fight against a wall and they mistook a window for a wall and through him right through it Oh it's like I don't know your candidate Windsor is a dirty place and there's like a budget right yeah but well I mean can you take an uber conscious we took a cab I wouldn't doubt it I mean it's got a passport but yeah Detroit river is a pretty significant river it's almost a mile wide I don't know about exactly where Ken see people waving to you across the if you will against it was either game three or four and that earned the maybe it was game till in that series when Eager Yano scored a triple overtime goal but you know it's a the bridge and tunnel crowd the bridge and tunnel crowd who hangs out at bridges and tunnels men was just like I'm getting a hotel room and we're like what he's like I'm getting a hotel room and we're like do like I was like now it could be like all right you know I guess I'll get a hotel room to you know what I mean so me I don't know deal with me and I'm hooking up with this chick man me invincible Isky fucking take a cab yeah I mean yeah they're suicide bomber right and I'm not but back then this was this was right gas was four dollars a gallon and this was nine eleven until you go through the tunnel any asshole could drive into the tunnel with a fucking bomb and blow it off right in the middle of the unchecked I mean you know what I mean on check they don't really care if they're dying we were on like World Watch oh I didn't I didn't like going through the tunnel after that and I haven't even been to Canada since then so Canada's awesome windsor sucks a cab we stopped a costumes of course the guy's not gonNa shut the meter off they search you know what I mean they search us we realized we fucked the customs but but like there's never liked traffic it was never like a slow go and also like after September eleventh they haven't seen a real so afraid of terrorists and shit like that I didn't want to go in there because it would have been so easy like you don't even go through security windsor is like Canada's like dirtiest trashy asleep not even like really got over the downriver of Canada Yeah we love our downriver people so we're like shit we don't have enough money and like the cabdriver apparently you know we're a bunch of junk teenagers in the vaccine like we probably won't being very discreet about like he starts Canada but back then that's just a anyone who knows that reference and if you don't know me by a tunnel like the on Jefferson at least we're state said Yeah Yeah and this is a good like five miles from where we had to be like Oh yeah ktar still state side for this one one stroke off the lead tied with Sarah Holcomb at four-under-par at the end of round two though Tatar impeachment unleashing bursch Monday and I feel like that's why people it's never busy I mean I don't know because it has been twenty years but it wasn't busy back then every like you'd go through them like you might get have enough you know we were like poor teenagers you know what I mean like say like nowadays I just got my hotel room but like we didn't have money for also tatars first major win and I went on US soil I know she did well in Canada but she's not one here in the US yet until the championship making us pay them as we go like five more dollars five hundred dollars and eventually we and then we had no we had no money and he kicks us out of the car we were like just past Belle isle in two thousand and one thousand till June thirteen thousand it was my nineteenth birthday they wanted to hire her Laurie Ella Park and Hawk hollow disc golf courses started out just as plan page peers shooting five down for around one Christmas we need a passport back then yeah buddy just completely hose us he's like yeah I'm getting a hotel room with like dude we gotta get home and he's like oh I don't know deal with it like the guy who drove battle spots Vania it's so weird it's so weird that even a place either way the parks were nice I mean sixth eight down so it was pretty close battle well ladies this was the first time that a European player had won the US Women's title man so facebook Dude that she will cash this year so watch out boys she will cash she said she will cash at where I'm sorry against the Carolina Hurricanes Oh I was in Canada before I was nineteen drinking an does by four strokes Rebecca Cox third-place ten-under-par Sarah Hokum and page Bianca's tied for fourth nine down Katrina Allen's tip both page and Christian are signed up for the United States discovered championships in Rock Hill South Carolina page pierce even posted on here's for tied up at eleven down so good around three back at a Lorella Pitch Pearson's Abe was not able to recreate her first round magic she shot yeah good times good times in Canada running this isn't a this isn't a drunken teenage no podcast I can't believe we're talking all these stories that air because your because I have no notes today so just talking me invincible disturbed so is Bartos Kovalski The youngun Kyle Klein and by the way thanks for the autographed discs do just got them in the mail couple of days ago five so you can get coverage of that live coverage for nine ninety nine for rounds two three and four with Ken Climb as commentator but you're gonNA next day coverage from the Spin TV and I've always that was fucking awful don't even care if I dude it was awful so now they're trusting them to do this again and have people pay for it wicker belt something like that right but we like ran home like all the way down Jefferson underpowered for round three still good enough for second place total of thirteen under par Kristen cars the new women's disc golf champion she got paid women's slots that I go ahead brother took it away gas teenager all right so the twenty nineteen us women's disc golf championships the eligible players list pretty good I'm pretty sure those were the only two females that I saw I mean not many you know what I mean is good as peach pieces and you know what I mean as much as she can hang with impeded a tour and whoever players purses and you know as though we talk about yeah you WanNa talk about the US women's yeah we got us women's without you got I got I mean I it starts off with so many men too many women eighty radio ninety rated that's a thousand rated I mean if you're you know if you're it doesn't it seems like he doesn't like anybody to me how does seem to be a beer what do you want from buying it by the way proceeds go to the educational disc off experience so well I wish the okay that's cool I wish the proceeds would just go to you know PG and like every every time somebody from Abu town or anything there like what's that over there and you're like Canada like what that's I can't do it yeah that's candidates legit can tell the south of US I don't know I mean I read the thing online they're like they're bringing their eighteen foot production van I'm sorry but in my business tell broadcast television right now I'm sorry yes well some of the other dudes that she's that page pierce and Christmas target have to play against Andrew Mar we'd is dude guess Mike is hilarious on everybody he also said he would be sharing this coverage I wish it would go right back into the events into getting US better media and why are you going with this company that like couldn't read for skiers registered so it was really Prince Tim Barham though is not eligible so now bar him didn't make did not an end that murder Mike's made a couple of good memes he always does that mean well I mean he he doesn't seem to like the PD do it before I don't know about that I'm not calling liar or anything but I just feel like yes I'm a hundred forty eight percent scheuer they're they're bad they built the built oh they want a championship maybe they went to then they're competitive and then they fall apart and they built and they built and they go through cycles Asian an eighteen foot television trucking shit dude they use fifty three orders I mean you are like in the top top I'm hold on let me tell you this though the people doing live coverage fulcher media the guys who started doing live coverage for the disco pro tour at the beginning of the year you think you're GonNa do you sure it's the same media company I totally shortens the same and hurt anybody I've read a lot of people bitching online and I just hadn't heard anybody else bitch about the I feel like we're not the Yankees or anything but Detroit sports is Hewitt we still have four major league sports team yes and they're all like you have been at times they are eat crappy but when I was going out you know what I mean that was probably like wearing a button you're hanging out with friends and You know you know how Vince was probably dressed. Vince probably has polo tucked into his Khakis announced he did not make the cut yeah he didn't play enough events in place I enough whatever it was but the United States discovered championships next weekend man October aren't I have one hundred ten losses yeah there there they were not but either way they still average like eighteen thousand people games local see your nine hundred pros pretty much winning you know what I mean yeah there's not telling me she even said in that same exact post that when she said she will cash that she's GonNa have to throw a lot of our team like yeah the lions have always kind of been like we've had talent but we just never ever put it together but like our teams go through phases you know like and we were not one I mean yeah that's what I'm saying even though like our teams are good market also like Detroit it's not a good like free agency things so like our teams go through and we do have good auto big free agent destination so like we're not just going to be able to like we have to build teams and we do have good franchises because like look at the Pistons Optical shops like sidearm drives and rollers and stuff so if you hear some noise here I'm trying to adjust with only basically left handed and you're barely even that you know I think it's great when I you know and I was even like okay what is urban to Lidstrom and I'm GonNa say something right here you totally two in one the lions are you talking about the Lion Oh yeah that's exactly are undefeated correct I know me want just whatever you can grab per Perroni all right sounds delicious Italian years very good to tell you that either consider Berg like his greatest they were they weren't like Eisman in federal off what do you think about the no captain this year I think it's great and I think with our history of captains I think that's exactly how it should be somebody needs to earn it I mean is do agree with Stephen What's tdy said you don't necessarily need a team captain even when they suck we still they're still you know what I mean do the Tigers Comerica Park is like forty two thousand people are undefeated bro Retarded his plus minus is astronomical did reels minus I I couldn't even tell you but I think it's like a thousand Jesus Christ I'll look at center ice tongue oh dude I remember that now I remember seeing clips of that no up for two straight games against like a younger tougher hungrier eight seed and remember see Stephen Miller game the tradition yeah like guess what next Captain Gus whose name in that Captain Steve is women the former captains the captain issue but Steve is my favorite hockey player of all time Nicholas Jim is the best player everywhere a Red Wings Jersey Notre simple as that he's awfully he might never know about her Yeah Dude Nicholas Storm is look at Nicholas Germs numbers and I mean Nicholas Mawson career hat trick I was there for that well he's a defenseman look at look at his plus minus I'll never forget like after he went out he was already old in a he was out like all year with a knee injury and we were playing the Vancouver canucks the redwings brought broadcast crew I'm going to do a few Pistons Games this year for my buddy Max he's going to go to star wars land totally jealous of that but you know and the first round the playoffs and we looked dead in the water after finishing Presidents Cup we looked at dead in the water got you know got beat up of bound to fall off you know what I mean at some point and now we have to make the playoffs if she'd be to win the Stanley Cup not make the exact yes yes and I felt like they held onto that for too long and to be here on exactly step up and be a leader and then we'll make you captain I've but I really don't I don't WanNa see some somebody get it just because by the way dude Do you remember what our last episode was the anniversary of duly doubles yes we forgot to bring Duly Dabbles Bra I've said it before and it really Ruffles People's Fathers Nicholas Germans the greatest redwing there ever was doesn't ruffle my feathers don't I wouldn't necessarily is up you look at As much as Gordy Howe was the greatest those era and Steve is German was so amazing my favorite and such a leader in like you go down at men I mean our Detroit teams go through ups they go through downs I mean tigers lost one hundred nineteen games two thousand three like they want us to redesign the course so we pretty much did what we could do with it we did and it was insights championship with the man yes her an person Atar both playing as far I mean I scroll the registered players list which you know what I mean and that really hurt him which now in hindsight like yeah when they when there's playoff streak ended I was like almost wanted to cry you know but he may world series in two thousand six two thousand twelve we'll see what happens man I mean it's a rebuilding year for everybody on excited to be apart of that would've played a lot it even with a completely full course of playwright like there wasn't no I mean we had what forty people out there I mean we had we had track the track goes around the entire Park right you know I mean I understand we can go from the track and in but like and I didn't want to attach my name that and like have people I know go play this course rip me apart in person and online recruiting this not ideal place where what I thought was if the only thing we could really do was make it I like what they would enter this three or four years ago we'd be ready for cloud push you know what I mean you know like like once Lidstrom left it's like dead fillet private and a couple like a couple like preppy white boys in the hood automatically the city said can we like make this course not where you don't throw the disc at the walking track and like no did you see did I see guys I'm not listen I can't even right that's how his right arms legit and a sling he's got his thumb in the what good came about that from Eric Mackay was like he said anyplace is the place to practice and poor practices good thing to have so but I mean now red wings were dominant for thirty years you know we've had a playoffs for like twenty five twenty seven years or something like that and now we have made and then we were we were how's it the mountain the mountain verses the giants being yeah I saw that dude yes exactly shipping address and say hey where do you live did I wanna come over yeah talk to you about this I want to come over and drink giants milk with you know Oh you can't not unless you made like you just said played in California like hundred foot holes or I did the one idea I had was the only what what would by the way I met I I wanNA disc from Eric Mackay Hill a few weeks ago matthew months ago but he was like so what's with Julie Man and Mike Multiple six uh-huh yeah I mean so every game every team can come true every I mean you know we could do it but sort hundred twenty eight hundred four no we had some nice nice holes out there for what we could I felt the course that we designed was pretty nice man I would have played on that one how this community works right yeah they didn't really might not know Roscoff you'll find out till he finds a disc someone's number on it I forget it you know what I mean and we ended up winning the Stanley Cup that year and it was really but what turned that whole thing around was Nicholas blast from Tim on Instagram when I saw that he was a when I saw that he was playing disc- off a man I'd like to make you an honorary member of the heiser nuts I was like shooting freeman picks himself up his knees are so bad man he picks he has to use the book of his stick to pick himself up off the ice then giant Chris something why can't even think of his name in the show right now I've read the books and everything torment torment torment giants bent gene message I can think of his name now Gregoire Cobaine no nothing no not the mountain yeah just just want to send you some stuff and I didn't hear back as you as I address right I said shipping address celebrities like that have good times yeah he's got I can I don't even know how to pronounce his name I mean he's not like the how's mute head he's like a genuine powerlifting champion yeah yeah he does he does work like he broke he broke the some Viking record that is like yeah I don't really want to put my name on it I designed it and honestly or something and just play knowing I did it myself or something for hand out a little bit didn't tell me to put my thumb in here I just do it so if you have a thumb holder holder why wouldn't you let it hold thumb yeah what if he believed the same courses you do that'd be so I mean I'm sure they're playing some sweet like I can you can just keep it yeah for sure armor shit say I found my my favorite disc golfers disc today thanks torment you see his girlfriend tiny she's like a five foot tall little blonde feel bad for her I'm sure she doesn't feel in a thumb thing I didn't like the waistband like a multiple side slaves more it's more just for comfort with my thumb because like I can stretch do like like he carried like eighteen hundred pounds with his hands across a bridge like eighteen feet and these dudes that were doing it like tearing their skin open because it was can you post a picture of it with my phone lost and found disc of southeast Michigan poses picture expand gets in three heads which was a great idea man I mean we could still come out and with that idea if he walked dude but like I don't know yeah I don't worry not gonNA throw the so yeah so that was two thousand and then I went there until then like the last time I was in Canada was before my nineteenth birthday deemed a myth that some Viking did like a thousand years ago with like walking with the log on his back I don't know yeah I think it was like walking across the maybe it was yeah brutalize Hathor yeah he's a whole or though now duties according to legend anymore I've seen that show on the history channel do they try to break those things now that's awesome there's one across the bridge optus whenever getting seriously like it was like a Viking myth like legend you know what I mean and he's like yeah I'm GonNa do that there's going to the cameras he's like a foot and a half taller than he is yeah I mean he he's not just like some guy who was just like oh heavy skid and couldn't hold it so I would not doubt it all out and can do most of those things he's a his enormous human being shipping address you know that's the you know they have all celebrities have they have a shipping is somebody going through their things and they were like yeah we're not awesome he's like hey I'm giants raptor over so don't yeah I'm sure I'm sure Hathor is giving you the full for sure yup absolutely please listen to our to our podcast maybe share right guys asked today anyway the mountain likes play disco don't beat me up for making dirty jokes about you actually do compete me up that'd be great give beato mound pastry batch two hundred or something like that dude yeah I feel like the Celtics have been here for now I don't think I could take him out early holding your truly truly not looking for I o Berry he's got he's got probably he's got he's got ears in boxes and Styrofoam padding just brought him a Belgian strong Ale from town But I was like we got I was like he got ready to drink some white claw ever get places you know what I mean long long winding roads and stuff but you know which stopped we stopped at the grocery store like from like before we even went to his house scores light and I'm like you're GonNa make fun of white cloth this is not Bush late but I grabbed three twelve packs to dude you're going to drink all that so one of those well we saw the next day we woke up and you know first night and Callie we got sloshed you know what I mean like me and my you know Aleka Stash over in the back room now some really fancy shit yeah he's got a seller now a plywood but it's still a beer so yeah and I'm like no we're going to joy do not drink and I'm like no try them to just try one have you tried one oh yeah got to get ready for some white and they're like what no no I don't tell you drink that Shit Volvo so okay then these these guys going to have thirty packer unlike they're popping up Sherwood Berea just for the watermelon flavor. Yeah so no I mean no they are honestly quite refreshing refreshing but I do I wanNA have like I know we have brought us over here no spending a month yeah and there's still these brought a lot of beers over here yeah no even told us what one kicked in the nuts on anybody did a he almost lost to Auburn so yeah over owns a beast I mean that's like my two oldest friends besides Mike you know Dustin my oldest friend Goes Dustin Mike Pete we say that Oh yeah we're going we're like he picks up picked us up from the airport and you know it's like a mountain town so it's like things are far away but like it just takes for on because when we first got there they both opened course light there was like three white claws left like after all like make believe world I'm just he almost fell him did not hesitate not a small do but I do zero arms ellsbury hard seltzer Bro having myself a Perot Ni I love we haven't brought a beer over here for a while so they don't want to throw it in stopping you know Michael is Michael is out and Kelly and buddy pete lives up north in the up and Marquette so we don't get together as much as you know we no these aren't these aren't white clause these are what their self gas station right buttons White Claw High Suit High noon What are the other one there's a bus Duston Mike batches the chief chief Pete Malcolm Mike Matthews you know obviously I had friends before that but that I still hang out with much that's not my fat A. But anyways I think promoted the heart Seltzer enough on here they had is like this this is an early recording here and we haven't brought me over to the studio while so I don't want to just stick to jumping jets fancy beers and spend a couple of weeks jetsons actually out of five and a half you know in two they're no but they're ninety percent water is just like the cool thing hundred I quit bringing beers and told me I'm on it Speaking of hearts ulcers out to Kelly so I bought it but he was fucking love of Ed he like after his third when we look a fucking white cards like poem it smashes it over four here paying attention getting ahead I'm jumping all over the place because I have no notes you look at this Little Lake Splash of Xia knows that it's like a little almost often see you know friends in elementary school and I never talked to either right continuous friends but Yeah you know we got refer you know first time calories one gram of sugar in this watch Yo figure yeah I that's what I did if I keep drinking these I'm going to get skinny but then I'm like I don't drink that first time we're all three hanging out since wedding two years ago we got sloshed the first night you know what I mean found ahead goal we woke up in the morning there was two cores lights h what is there's an eight what does the H. Flex like heiser flex that'd be cool hemp bioplastics Oh is this purple hair now that is sweet stone that is adequate rooftop to this dude bill it's my potter aft would you got your and this is what you guys get so first of all see you can guess what is okay that looks like a gateway bat blue earlier in the now I'm having a parole any I didn't bring any beer what are you guys having tells what kind of peers you guys have you haven't gotten an email in a while we kind of forget quit talking about breweries that don't do anything like outside of their Max yeah like they don't do anything like outside of their local zone so we can get in Michigan it you guys are listening you guys are listening to nobody's reaching out to us I don't get it there are others still prizes will that will bring me into today's guest this this release of their hump of their hemp discs awesome Nobody else has really gotten their stamps on them yet I think like the disc of the take the five percent predictive ability is pretty nice I will say when you're going from like six point five are super super stupid soft thank you for saying that for me it's it's grippier on that I mean it's got my this is Kinda my favorite st behalf the miniature the miniature highs not shield and in chain the chain circle it's dope be cool speak our highs nuts logo dude the crew forty-two sponsorship awesome man. Yeah I do I'm GonNa paid for that I I feel like rubber right it's like a stiff robbery even for like this stupor super soft super stupid soft stoop softening everyone close what kind of beer you drink while you're watching Judson UH got one for you to he's upstairs I also in the in the lower right it's a new to that as griffey's limited ron it's a what is it h. e. let us know what you drank we'll have it on the air one day and I'll send you one of these hemp discs they're really griffey they really if they feel like the three of them by and he was kind of like he's still like making fun of me but like also like he had seen the like for us drink light claw you know what I mean yeah disc is that a is that a mad no it's not a magic it's a Lizard Wizard okay I'm GonNa Hanson you'll be able to see it with the heiser not saying world but sweet yeah it's it's green they're real grip you but it's like a green that you could find and grass it's like a neon green speckled well till the end of time sticks in the Derby well so yeah and also like I was like the first club to to get these one of the glow ones now it doesn't glow I it's a sweet like like men like mint chocolate chip it looks like we'd with a an understanding I don't know it's a hemp it's made out of recycled plastic that's sweet and you know in the thousand years it will disintegrate won't be like left on the earth cast we're going to try it out that sound good if I can find it I will local brewery you might have to you might have to send us a link or something maybe the purple hairs it looks like mint shove ice cream so do so do you know like the science behind this I don't know I mean they just will will get wasted legit guest The Michigan State Championships being in Michigan when they were playing Kellen Zoo oh really yeah wow the sponsorship you paid for it but no I'm saying they're like getting to see how many times they threw it into their chairman he tries to guess about where they're at he's that looks like upstate New York and on the animals of a particular region or geological periods boom all right so we are both ship Assam I'll pay for it I know a couple of great stores in this area that carry like Humboldt Park place is so big now they have they can order whatever but you know there there's local uh well you repeatedly throughout the whole video what was even kind of cooler did is that I have a dude I work with todd who will will I'm watching disc off video own they're not they're not but they are they did some really good coverage yeah really cooling logo sponsored honor I think so no the flora I think look it up and I think Florida's plants the florist yeah yeah for it so it's like I was getting a little antsy than also like you know they don't have a drone just walk with the camera which is still good I mean you can still see the pathway but you know they're not have drawn you've was Brown to back twelve but yeah I was the main every little break they show when they the whole preview yeah getting a little anxious because took like three weeks for like all the I mean how long ago states yeah like four or five weeks ago yeah and they just info about it'd be cool if it was just the Chin circle yet would be I mean thought even the heisman it's in the middle which gives you a like a small just like around the center rose hill like try to guess where at like blazed based on like the flora and fauna even there's not many animals running around but yeah he loved round coverage dude was amazed at every so crew forty two there we talked about him last episodes they're out of the west side Michigan Rent Yeah but they did Michigan State Championships talking about there's no animals fun Oh okay okay yes then yes I totally based on the flora of the chief Wahoo Dude Major League it's one of my favorite movies doing when I was when I used to play video games a lot so good courses in Ohio though actually I'm sure well how does this flat flat-lander Cuyahoga River Cayo chief. Are you still a used to love baseball like I like to do like the franchise mode I'd always like simulate the regular season and because I'm watching the video men so I mean there'd be some the like Michigan those not like distinct enough really well I mean how do you guessed that anyway what if he already looked it up and jeff for like three weeks I'll tell you what you can do in the next three weeks dude because I was trying to tell you how he used to play my video game okay we'll tell me how the play the play offs eight crack in another truly man there bro you are wild bre mature one you'll get shit today anyway I don't I don't have shifted yeah it was like one of the whole it was like what was it a round two from twelve as it act twelve tigers simulate through the regular season but I'll take the Cleveland Indians and I would make every player like from Major League I like Hawaii Florida plane see like where you get like the Midwest Shit like they all kind of look the same even like northeast still kind of looks like dad just got one but I was like the first there's others coming out but I was one of the first and Mattis Dope do they tell us what kind of beer you drink while you're listening to the you you're right man it's Michigan State Championship Nice I wonder if I could do I know it's it's it's a fun game for him to play because I obviously I already know all of them Dorn Roger good contact hitter terrible everything else can play yeah but I would do that uh-huh and find out where they are You know just to fuck with you and then be like that looks like Hawaii and I'm like it's the Philippines you know but Hawaii be easy to guess Midwest I mean if there was a mountain in the background you're always you're not going to be like that's Ohio right there's nothing cooler in Ohio Cedar Point Cedar Point they just produced the last round but it's been out for a little over week Assad it looks good men they're great guys who have other jobs and wives and families and Shit and they're not getting paid twenty nineteen -Tuni- from
EP 069: Tim Lyons: The Current State Of Fitness Marketing In 2019
"Welcome to another episode of unfiltered coach podcast i'm your host land end over end today you have a very special guest kim elian he's a gym owner to comic club winner an owner of pro fit marketing solutions and online marketing agency where he's created not only his own six figures seven figure jim cut a seven figure marketing agency in today's episode reach above the current state of marketing fitness in two thousand nineteen we go over video marketing lowest hanging fruit leave generation what's required to actually be successful and how reef purpose you're content creator omnipresent so without further ado let's get all the today show all right tim lions i am super super excited the heavy on you will be the the first two comical the winner but i've had on the podcast which gets me really really excited as a an inter marketing nerd but i just wanna give you a warm welcome to the show thank you so much for coming on today man thank you i love a love talking fitness i love talking marketing masters the purpose of a synergy yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be an exciting show you know when you know you came in when we had the chance connect at a b events in scottsdale a few weeks ago it was really cool 'cause you're you're background is very similar to my wife and i background you know we own syllabi for about six years and then kind of transitioned into more the marketing side of things you've had a facility for over a decade so it's a you know and then kind of transition from air so i would love if you know just kind of kick things off if you could just kinda share a little bit about your story how do we go from you know jim owner to to comical winner to marketer you know if you just kind of walk us through that journey that'd be great chairman absolutely so yeah you're right i do own a gym still opera own and operate here in town in scottsdale since two thousand nine it it didn't start out the way that i have it now obviously things change over time when i first opened it was a three thousand square foot you know twenty four hour jam with personal training there you wanted it wasn't required a nfs for ten years sit today were in eight thousand feet we move we got a full training facility full team of coaches are all employees of the business a we run a great kinda operation here every client has a has a coach we have custom programming nutrition muscle therapy happy we just bundle it right in to one business model end you know back backup maybe four and a half five years ago when i started the marketing company a proof of marketing a ruse really just out of me hatton by saturday of having the market the gym by myself right so the facebook thing what's coming on board funnels were brand new nobody really knew what was going on and i just went head first adult right into it in learned it at ellis doing it for myself and we were gonna be amazing results be really even really know what we're doing the gospel a but ended up sharing it with some people in a mastermind that i'm in i'm still in today an i just did it for free i was actually really those it's funny because i was showing people how i was doing you guys you gotta do what i'm doing you should try it out here's here's how you do it as shown in they just did not want to learn it they just cares like foreign languages like one in german or something they do wanna touch it tim would you do it for me and i was like sure man i wanna know if it's gonna work for you too solid i would take on a gym and then i would launcher for them and they would do great and then another person would jump on it and i would do there's and it was starting to word i was seeing a pattern of great this marketing campaign works in boston it works in florida works in pennsylvania works in washington in texas like wait a minute here and then the flood of people coming to me asking me to do the work forum i finally had a start charging charging have any more time as like what i'll do it for you man but you know five hundred bucks i gotta cover a little bit my time i wasn't really looking to make anything i just tried to help people add it just grew and grew and grew in first sixteen months we didn't even have the market get new gym owners on board with us because they were they were constantly calling so a i had a buddy of mine i was working at the front desk using transition in you know in china find a job and i was like dude i need your help he's a good friend of mine and i brought automotive business and i was doing the cells called those teach them how to build and then within nine months we turn around and willie cauley cower one point four million dollars year nine months like what if it was an axe it wasn't it was purely an accident in yeah that's that's how i got the two comic club award and i was like well maybe there's more to this right and i start going down that path or any more and more and it's been it's been pretty fun man i don't think it's easy it is today is was in two thousand fifteen early but there's still a lot of room i mean there's plenty of people out there doing great things but yeah that was it was a fun ride man who was shot up right so the talks in the funny thing is in nine months we do six seven figures in pro it took me like seven years in the gym to get there like well wait a minute it really came down to the ability to scale outside my radius of scottsdale arizona clients 'cause we could only serve the people like that could get to us on the marketing side were in australia and canada and all of the u s so it's really simple yeah you you hit on a really you know a lot of really really cool things there end before we actually jumped into the marketing you you touched on something something that kind of resonated with and you said that now you have all of your team is employees of the business and i just kinda wanna know is do you have strategy behind why you have them employed vs working as subcontractors you're talking about coaches in the gym yeah absolutely i actually had other way around i had contractors renting space from me in the early game in the early days in i came to realize when i sat back i looked at the business too big thing shot out and meet as red flags number one was there is no synergy within the four walls of my business in one corner i had a bodybuilding coach in another corner right across style coach and then i had a you know an active adult coach doing bands in someone's doing what i want some using barbells and then he was a man like i looked at it as like what are we doing here what is it that we believe in as a fitness facility has owner as the owner of the business what is it that we believe in so i had change that and then number two was i make a change financially because i was getting his little thirty nine dollar amount memberships and they were young ten thousand dollar training packages in something was out of alignment they had zerorez skipping the business they would come and go as they please i had all personal liability on all the on the you know the least and they equipment they're using my space and then when times are tough i turn around those guys were gone as like something's not right so i just decided look guys this isn't a good start it's one sided honored percent one side of add on top of that we didn't have an identity of what we really were so that's why i changed it now the teams the team every client chains with every coach we work as is a group we have team meetings we have a loss of be everything lives a comes from the top down the business down to the coach absolutely and we should we took the exact same approach with our facility you know we were about sixteen hundred square feet and then we expanded into six thousand and then we grew to a team of age before we closed are doors and it was the same thing as we took on are first team member and it was that decision do we employ or do we have them as a contractor and then when you assume out and you go okay well what's the big picture here what are we trying to create and when you're trying to create a movement in a culture you can't do that when they are you know quote unquote they're working for themselves when they were a subcontractor as much as you walk them to be invested in pro says they're still running their own business you know when we know that because we've been there and i know anytime i've been a subcontractor it's you know it's my best interests or or the ones that i care about so i thought that was really interesting yeah so same same exact going from the other side right it's like you know it was a lopsided they only care about themselves and you know and i was feeding them clients over and over and over and they would maybe kicked me back something they maybe an hour trip with a trend do is if i think it is clients with a good coach they're gonna pay their monthly dues longer and that's all i cared about and that's always think of his these this long trip and we grew really quick right we got up to like three hundred and fifty clients but even at that number in a small space with a high reynolds fan i really wasn't even breaking even at that point so i had to make a change roadside i'd be close to be honest with you so i had to make a change that one hundred percent and it's it's one those things that i think a lot of people entering into the fitness space now whether they are a trainer jim owner a coach that they just they don't see a lot you know like i'm looking at you right now you got to comic club plaques one on each side of you behind you and we see this kind of surface level success now and just like you said it took seven years they hit that seven figure mark with the with the gym and it went through so many evolutions an i think so many people missed that just you come into the industry and there is a seven figure coach this you know joined this seven figure mastermind whatever it is in this day and age everybody is dangling this carrot in front of everybody entering industry and they just think it's gonna come super super fast and i was listening to a podcast by you've larson who is a part of the quick lentils community as well as she was talking about how he just feels like he's constantly evolving and then there was another person that said that's the price of being a business owner and just just like you said you went through all of these evolutions where you're facility and then doing the marketing and then going in seeing success and it was never done for the purpose of profits it was done the purpose of helping others entra trading transformation within europe facility and then through trying to just pass that wisdom on the other people until it was like get what i need to kind of start charging a little bit more for that and i think that's something that in the current state of marketing and fitness that people just mess that it is this journey of evolution and you're not gonna strike gold right on the first leg yeah if you take a snapshot of you're facebook feed right now you think what do you guys talking about man is so easy people are pushing the fact that it's easy an you know i'm here to tell you is not forgetting easy being a gym owner is not easy it's probably a lot harder than a lot of things they do a lot easier it is hard andy the fact that people i am gonna blame it on a generation almost be honest i'm gonna blame it on a millennial generation the millennials mindset of i need every something's owed to me in something i should be given just for playing the game and i should get this participation trophy and i should get these little words because i'm playing the game when it comes down to it there there's been times in my business where i've turned turns to my team and i turned to the people in the business around me and i said look years ago were gonna closed the doors if we don't get some capital race or if we make cells we could we could sell her way out of this is there anybody here involved in this of the focus of this gym that would be willing to invest that a return in all i get is crickets every freaking time nobody's got the balls the throw it out there like entrepreneurs who were in a business owner does and if you don't have that risk tolerance if you don't you're not willing to lose it all and then start from zero in should never played this game because there's going to be a time where you're gonna be faced with some shit like that he's gonna you're gonna have to make a decision either throat you know throw it out on the table or just shut the doors and a lot a lot of people can play that game when you're playing bigger when you're playing bigger there's bigger money involved there's hundreds of thousands of dollars that are needed on campaigns and big business move forward and it's just pure one man show and you're working in your mom's basement yeah it's kind of easy the the pullout but if you have fourteen thousand dollars in rent every month and you know fifty thousand dollars in payroll everybody's just it's it's it's a different game in a lot of people are willing to play that but it's not easy that's that's the point said this whole ranch year it's it's a little frustrating to see what's being pushed message communicated out there in the marketplace it just you just snap your fingers man some figures i'll be there in three weeks yeah true guys are true yeah i couldn't agree more i see it so often i feel just everybody coming into the industry now is simply just following exactly exactly what everybody else is doing nobody's thinking for themselves and i've seen some other like some of the you know some of the entrepreneurs in the way like digital marketer in a a drawing a blank on his name dice his last name oh yeah yeah that ryan dice and he's talking about like were were entering into the age of where you just start disrupting things where everybody is just starting to blurred together doing the exact same things and it is it's opening up a opportunity trinity rep people that are willing to take a risk but people coming into fitness are just so risk averse they're so scared of doing it and you know when my wife and i we have gone through you know when we work with coaches i just you know you educate them on it's like we've gone through so many generations of our business from doing nutrition coaching for free to charging what would be classified as type ticket to scrapping that to going online to you know reinventing are business model time and time again because nothing is going to be perfect nothing is going to be 'perfect forever what you want in life is gonna change and i think so many people are just they're just chasing the carrot what everyone else is doing so you know or dislike dyke automous thinking everybody thinks it's like there is one way you should do things and like you said times have changed from five years ago you know there's people that are still preaching that they're getting thirty five five times return on their one dollar in on facebook ads that shit just ain't happening anymore i know better a better i'm just fucking doing it wrong yeah you you you always wonder i i get hit 'cause i'm a target audience from from my own service right so i'm a gym owners i get targeted by mid fitness marketers people and i it's it's sad man i can't i i feel bad for the gym owners out there that don't know any different and they're getting pounded i get emails school calls an i get hit on target on face of marketing all day probably five six seven times a day i don't know who you you don't know who you could trust nfl about the gym owners out there that don't know and they're traveling get burned there's more calls i have with jim owners that have been burned that hold it against us then i've ever had in the past ever hey you know i give this guy five grand a year this guy i'm into this marketing thing for forty five grand and i only have two clients to show for it i i want some panic guaranteed from you jammer i wanna i wanna just put my toe in the water with you because i you know i've been burned in the past and then it just it's like i just wish this this this kind of aero would stop and then we could just move past it and then get into the you like unstop began but it's it's kind of a battle man kind of about octo baffert jim owners today yeah and one thing i see on the the marketing side of things is going hand in hand with the rising cost of advertising so it's costing more and more advertising platforms like facebook you know even more if you're trying a hit like a business is only linked dan like how costa super expensive so what's happening is i'm seeing the programs of people are selling are getting more expensive the more expensive and then it's getting people are just very very scared 'cause they're investing in someone and i see a lot of 'cause i've taken a lot of courses and a lot of training that you've seen one person that is selling you know a flash the ten thousand dollar training program that is literally be exact same thing that they learn from taking someone else's program and you're like i don't know what's going on here so kind of like what do you what do you kind of wisdom you give to the fitness person that is seeking help oh man i you know do do due diligence honored percent go go figure out who these people are where do they learn it where do they cut their teeth are they just starting this year this this month a do they have a real business other than selling you they're saying that's that's something i would probably look at do they even have a real business they have staff and then team in are they just recycling other stuff like you said they took a course now they're gonna sell to you because you the absolute truth is there's people out there teaching people with no knowledge of let's just say fitness business in their teach them how to become an agency owner and they're teaching them how to go get leads for gems in nutrition coaches and chiropractors in restaurants and everybody else in between and they're they're open a quick like one final two men like this is what you should charge fifteen hundred dollars for in their hurry in these these kids heads that they can go out and sell this thing in what i see is all being a group in all see somebody that just sold some massive packaged to unfortunate business owner and they turn around they asked the group hotter run the campaign they could fulfill phil on what they just sold that person in that's completely freaking backwards and i hated man i can't stand it iconex data myself but if i had if you know i had it open formed the really save and i felt like that wouldn't be good it would not be a good thing so back to the question has a gym owner figure this all out do your due diligence ask around figure out who has a good reputation and then go outside of that and try to find what these people have don without telling you men and they make their decisions do they have a real brick and mortar business if they're a gym owner if you're getting jim motor coach or have they or do they are they even longer than a year in business that's a big tell like they just started it like their last twelve months they don't know anything yet they don't know how to get you out of a hole or fix a problem that comes up so i would start digging i love that yeah i think that's great it's i think a big thing that i've noticed in the trends ends is people that really really wanna create success can no longer stay in their silo of just trying to be really good at their skill i think you could not get away from having to learn enough about all of these marketing things before you actually outsource or else i think you're just blind just doing it you know i think it's like if you wanna hire so much when you're facebook ads you should have a decent enough knowledge to understand if you're getting screwed yeah yeah he's you know you should be able to look at the metrics and say hey you know the end of the day even if somebody was i mean i'm not gonna back somebody up that's that is a hack but at the end of the day if you put a dollar ranting you ended up getting fibers for three dollars out you probably did okay if there is a return on investment no matter who it is like at the end of the day you protect yourself but what i'm seeing what i'm hearing is people are spending money getting zero return and that's the sad part you know two thousand fifteen i could live out there and get you probably a fifteen to forty percent return or x on on your investment today you know three four five that's good that's good and if you're any you know to be honest if you're paying a dollar and you get fifty bucks five bucks out that that's great man keep doing that whatever it is right but if you go back to how marketing campaign works and how what what defines the successor what's the thing that makes the difference in a campaign to me it's oils and has always been the offer that you've been pushing so if if you push out something for free yes you will get cheap leads but if you can't get those people show up and give you real money it's not worth it or cost per league isn't isn't the thing if it's a pain thing you get lesley's but these people do kimber well then that's probably the direction you should go but you should absolutely test everything in you're mark 'cause every market there yeah i think that's i think that's a really good point 'cause something thing that i see a lot where people say that facebook has don't work because they've had a poor experience where if you know a person or an agency that random unsuccessfully for them is that it goes so far beyond adjust the facebook ads that are running it's it's not just the copy imaging the factor clicking for buttons to put beata it's cable you know what what is being offered being presented why is the landing page that they're landing at who's the person that's doing the moment on the back end but the sales call like there's there's so many moving parts that just the person doing just adds 'cause there's a lot of people that are just running facebook ads but they don't manage the final four you or vice mersa someone that'll do that end but they don't drive traffic in its if any one of those piece of the broken yeah those are sucking be successful migrants being right right in ears something else it i i wanna caution a gym owners to do is when you get a marketing agency coming to you in telling you what the players and what how to run your business and giving you things that like like nutrition plan used this nutrition plan put these guys on this nutrition train them this way were gonna run this program is gonna be this much and they're gonna run their thing run the other way at no point in any of this sure marketing company be giving you trainee advice nutrition plan sales coaching their job is to get you the league most light in should be from your offer not from there so something to think about i know that i think that's fantastic getting that gives a lot people just kind of food for thought as they're kind of exploring 'cause it's getting to the point where people are needing to kind of look for assistance industry is getting saturated we know bad brick and mortar is not easy we know that people were looking for help so i think that's great so i'd love to kind transition into you know talking about you talk a lot about kind of like a direct response marketing vs branding an i actually think that plays into just so we were saying 'cause i see some times where there'll be a company that is fairly established and then there'll be giving metrics on like their campaigns and it's like well you've been around for a very long time and you've got you know a lot more brand awareness then a gym owner that's just getting started in the game so it kind of walk us through you're kind of take a direct response and branding in how somebody entering into the fitness games you kind of approach these things get great question because this is a big topic right now so if you just kind of define let's define we kind of look at as direct response marketing the easiest way to explain is like here's my offer by my thing or or were looking for x amount of people it's this cost buy it or or opt in our do this do this do this where you're asking the person on the other end to do something typically take you up on that offer that over here is direct response an any other side would be branding which which in common sense of the term you would think branding is some of these colors in their logo in their tagline an image that they portray as eight business yes but not wavered in its talk about it what were trying to say with branding is not necessarily asking but giving so we're gonna give value give tips tricks videos nutrition of vice workout things you know instructional videos a x answering the questions you probably are hearing from her clients on a daily basis just turning that into a video and i say video on purpose because on video for two things people are digesting video at the highest rate than ever before right they they they watched videos all day every day they're getting offer tv under their phones so video is a great medium to to kind of explain what you're trying to do but on top of that you get these these tools that come wiz video view on the platforms like facebook and you she became retarget target people that are actually telling you by watching your videos that hey i'm interested in what you have to say jim a in fact i've watched a hundred percent of the video so now what you do as a marketer as a gym owners you could turn around and now offer those people are the ones that are actually interested in what you have to say what yet offer be actual direct response offer just the dead but not blast entire march and what that does is it a little bit longer of a play but you're you're creating your own audience when they're watching your videos and you're becoming an expert in your market they're not gonna think about the guy that's just doing a fourteen day challenger six week challenge they're like hey this guy's told me i was running shoes the by how determined how grocery shop and he actually showed a video of him grocery shopping had a look at food and not have to wait and understand where she controls and he told me what a what a protein means in carbohydrate means and what he's taught this like that's the guy i wanna go to because he's obviously more education and then get me a better result in this guy at this ransom six week challenge yeah and i think you know it's it's that longer term play it is creating eating stuff that is evergreen stuff that's gonna lift forever so yes it is serving a purpose of retargeting west offers but it's also value you know and if we like we fast forward are like fitness brains till like five years ago so people were doing like you you give value like what was everybody doing five years ago it again leads well most of them were like doing a really good job with their clients and hoping that they talked about it so now you're logging there's a lot that was pretty hot five years ago and that's the same principle it's just now it's on video so they're giving content away in educating so like we said in the presentation it's like a bank account right when you go to the bank any asper some money or withdraw and there's no assets in the bank for you to withdraw from well they're gonna give you the finger and that's like what you're clients are gonna do if you if you go out on blast say give me give me money but you haven't given them any value they're gonna give the finger and by not opting in in not coming injure facility but if you turn around and just give value in you're putting the opposite end of the bank when the time comes when it's time to generate some leaves inclined spirit business you've got equity but then market you've seen now withdrawn in asked that leads that sale so the same thought yeah you gotta invest in like i used to i used to refer to it as like you know relational equity you need to invest in that relationship before you ever wanna ask for something return and then when you go there like oh i know you like you know i i've watched a bunch of videos like i'll jump on a call or come in for a consultation and then you could avoid like the biggest fear and fitness professionals which is like having to try and sell someone that has no idea who they are like everyone just get like sick feeling in their stomach when they when they have to go do something like that and you can completely avoid that you're you're right yeah jim motors fitness trainer they they hate the self in my thought process this on that is that in the core of every person that's a trainer i feel like you you want to help people right you wanna like it helped change lived on nugget that person in great shape i wanna put my arm around a sure shoulder and be like yeah we got shut those medicines and that's a great feeling as a coach but when it comes time to sell the mindset of of a trainer when they're going to sell is that i'm hurting this person taking money from them in pretty in my pocket even though there has to be some transaction peterbilt do the work unless you're gonna work for free your whole life so they have this adversity to asking the money because they feel like it's hurting them and i'm kind of help this person but i can't take the money from so so it's just a mindset shift on how to kind of structure you're presentation yes by giving value this lowers that quite a bit they're not gonna they're gonna come in handy money because they are you've already sold them through you're education through videos and and if you can do that it's like the best way you can possibly do it because we know from from a marketing standpoint that you know just like you said you get cold cold all the time because it does work it's just the numbers game and you have to put in a lot of time in order to make it work but you go about it in in much better ways so you know when we start talking about like video in and doing stuff like that were starting to talk about like you know creating content strategy and things like that one else would you suggest that you know a gym motor trainer could do just start to be getting a little bit of that out there as starting to kind of indoctrinate their audience and kind of better their business in the long term the great question i think number one is do it right you're never gonna be perfect on day one as much as we we were were like protectionist that are we wanna make it perfect just get it out there get you're first several facebook live videos that you're posting out of the way 'cause you're gonna learn gonna tell you in in when you first start doing nobody's watching them anyway right you got one person on answer mob like hey mom how you doing but you're gonna have to practice so number one is just do it first don't worry about it being perfect in as you go along gonna get more comfortable doing it but most of the questions that we get like what do i even say what what what kind of content or do people want here's what i would tell you is a couple of things listen to our clients were asking on a daily basis they always ask stuff like when you're training armor on the phone with them like what what should i be doing this think about that or or hey i'm looking at some new running she's like i said that earlier where we should be using the train it those are just constant pieces turn that around a to a video of how much water strategy drinking tamar landed like well that's a video which should i eat tonight after my workout what should i why should i eat that's the video content wisconsin so think about it in terms 'cause you're clients are giving all the ammo you need to just turn around a tree and then just do it right just do it get it out there get it out into the ecosystem in let let us start doing its thing and you'll see you'll see the ones that are getting comments and shares and people liking in ask any questions on their you're getting that keep doing more of those whenever that was maybe the topic or the time of day or what how you shot the video or maybe you're in gem right here house watch what happens and then do more of the ones they don't work comments it it seems so simple when you put it like that right it's just like so eloquent like you know just do it pay attention and then do more of what people want but it's it's truly the simplest approach just marketing that are generally the most effective it's like putting out a bunch of different pieces of content pay attention to which when people actually gave a shit about by raising their hand in liking it commenting on it and then expand upon that type of content and get more out there you know it it's so simple but just everybody's looking to over complicate the process of marketing 'cause they they don't think it should be simple you know they want it to be hard 'cause then it gives them an excuse not to do it that's true that's very true but yeah exactly what just do it make it simple they the quicker you get more videos out there more content is the better 'cause then you could build a watch right in like you said it doesn't have to be hard a i've done a lot of the hard stuff that doesn't work as well as some of the easy stuff so why why make it hard on yourself a in one day i would would mention especially maybe to this audience that might be listening the content you're pushing out is not about you okay let's let's let's make this really clear it's not about nobody's gonna listen to why it's important to you don't like they wanna know how why why why should i listen what what is it gonna do for me as the as the audience like point you're you're confident in that direction instead of inward and watch and see what happens don't talk about how you worked out today don't talk about how you know what supplements you took today i know you're probably you know a brand ambassador and you're making commissions on it but for talking about content and giving value let's talk about what's gonna do for them make it about them all the time not about you so that's just something else that people get kinda they get stuck on i think if if if i'm doing this people don't wanna look like me so therefore they're gonna give me money it's not really how it works they wanna know what's in that right there they're afraid to work out they don't wanna go to the gym they they've been there fifty pounds overweight they don't look like you you scare the shit out of that they're scared shitless i'm going to pick up a weight tell them how it is gonna help help them right that that's the that's what i would say well that was fellas that's marketing five or six years ago i know i know he's still see the day just drove through instagram yeah and that's that's the thing like everybody's just copying what everybody did before them without actually using the brain just think about what is my audience actually want so you know you've talked about about video right so you know let's kind of expand on that a little bit so if were doing video is there any way that you know weaken amplify that should be putting it up on facebook's should be added to you to should we have that to our website is there any way that we kind of trained gets that one piece of content but try and get a little bit more mileage out of it absolutely yes real purpose in content is the whole thing right you want to come up with the topic wants and then create okay so this this is how this is the flow is how i would do it how we do do it come up with the topic in i would writer i would write a blog post about it okay so are coaches year at the gym every week we put up a blog hosted its original content comes from art team is really based on what the clients roskam so i haven't looked at what the ones going up today but let's just say it's 'em let's just say it's morning routines okay maybe easter morning routine hey you know i have a tough time getting out of bed i like i can't get going in the morning great thanks mrs johnson let me do a blog post about so i write a blog post that goes on the website that blog lives under website i turned around a creative video great that video goes on social media goes on instagram it goes on a baseball game goes on you to then i turn around and i write an email about the blog i just wrote in sending back to the website say hey guys just wrote a brand new blog and really excited about it this is johnson candy me she said she's having trouble moving in the morning i treat my five easy steps the get moving in the morning to get the day started right go ahead and check it out you click over you're block then iran traffic to you're facebook posts so you you wanna get more you wanna get more reach so it's same same topic but it's real purpose in all different places then you're getting search traffic from you choose 'cause that's organic you could run traffic there is well you can run trafficked instagram you can do a facebook live about the blog you just roach and send people back to her website or do another live about the same exact thing so there's it's again still sticking on one topic but it's blown out all all these different platforms in all different ways the people digest content you just did one yeah that's a centrally cool 'cause that's be exact strategy that that were rolling with right now and they just using the same thing podcast as well so that'll be you know when you're out there doing a podcast on that same topic or maybe like a quick yet but just it's it's expanding upon the same stuff right people want to well how am i gonna think of you know seventeen pieces of unique content and that's like don't don't know so we went back to the simple now it sounds complicated but really if you start with the written piece i think that's probably gets the most of you're you're brainpower onto paper then you could look at it and then i could create a video from that pretty easy that's in email pretty easy that's a facebook post pretty easy the video comes after that i think i think that would be the way i would do it but some people don't do written content okay you could still write it down in talk about what you're gonna say you're still gonna need after the email now you're still gonna need that you're copy courier post just right start with writing i think that's the best way and then you could turn around and year videos from there yeah i think that's great i think that's great you know one of the one of the questions i was gonna ask was like the lowest hanging fruit or you're generating leads as jim motor fitness professional i think you hit it on the head it's video content deliver value and do it so i just wanna see what is there anything that you would add in terms of just kind of like that lowest hanging fruit and that's it's kind of like you know when i talk to anybody about you know business nutrition and fitness is what's gonna be the the best bang for your buck right off the bat and is there anything that you would wanna add to that outside of kind of generating you know that kind of branding ask video content yeah i mean the truth of the matter the brainiacs style marketing is a longer term play if i need money today any clients at my gym today i can't wait i'm probably going after the people that have given me money in the past so all my past clients are gonna get a call in a text message i'm gonna bite and back they shaming gave you worried their solution at one point things change maybe they lost their job they got a new job maybe the way the back you don't know but i'm gonna call them and i'm gonna vitam back in i'm gonna say we miss you i'm gonna say i want you to come back in for thirty days on me whatever membership you want we want you back because a lot of times it's very very hard somebody come back in walking on their own because they then they admit they failed they did this once it didn't work i've failed and i'm gonna kinda scurry away but if you invite them back it's different it's different so again that's all free to you you got the pick up the phone and texan but those people that would give any money in the past there or you're best returned buyer she'll do go after them first then i might do some referrals stuff internally again no cost i gotta i gotta i gotta work a little bit i gotta talk to people but what are we doing this for this is my face the face business or a human the human business you can't always throw a facebook ad up and hope for the best you gotta talk so that would be the two things i would go after just right now while i'm doing other stuff you know i think it's great you know one thing that i tell people is always having a mix of short and long term strategy is out there 'cause long terms of great but you gotta eat right but if you burn out all you're energy on the stuff you're gonna do right now and you don't have anything working among term you're going to run out of people to reach out to and then you know you have no long term plays an but you know when you hit on there is is great because i i tell people all the time human psychology is really something you need to further you're knowledge and should be a good coach andy marketer because it just like you said people stop coming for whatever the reason is whether they all of a sudden something happened and they couldn't afford it or they felt like they reach their goals old and they kind of want it to experiment with they don't own a little bit whatever circumstance happened at they stopped when that circumstance changes they don't always wanna come back whether it is pride or just not thinking about it and so many people so scared to reach out to them but in our experience you'll you reach out and it's like hey you still interested in you know like building muscle losing weight and they're like actually yeah yeah and they banned thanking you for like selling them back into you're services and it's just such a mindset shift as a business owner to be like you know you gotta get over yourselves they likely will still give you money if you if you treat had been wild and delivered valley right you got nailed it man right people we just kind of forget about her like why we got you know obviously the email essence stuff but reaching out some directly or even a tax measures like if you don't wanna call fine people are gonna answer the phone anyway so not like a series of three text messages you could use a new soccer like skippy oh or something like that if you wanna just kinda automate some of it cool when they reach rich respond then you can get up on the phone if you want it to like you got hundreds and hundreds of past clients that might be a better way to do it but if you've got a couple of dozen hey pick up the phone and accident personally yeah it's a you know i know me personally i don't really ever answer my phone is usually sits on do not disturb never rings so that i could stay focused so it's you know you gotta do tax email phone you gotta hit the bumper of every platform because depending on you're target demographic you know if they're like eighteen bank and answer the phone if their legs fifty they're not gonna know what the fucking text messages yeah right right i i interviewed a guy named mom or russell last last podcast the mind in he's he gave me one of the best tips for calling somebody he mentioned that he said i don't wanna throw gary v under the bus i think this is him who said it and i greek and i saw this presentation goes how many of you in here hate like they get mad when somebody calls like they don't answer the phone like how many people don't yeah fuck the phone don't call anybody he goes you know what that's bs because because you don't answer the phone when you don't recognize the number you do answer the phone when you know it's you're dad or mom and her sister calling you show the first time you call somebody most likely expecting not answer however when you do leave a voicemail this is what you say hey you know so and so this is tim proposed fitness has saw you had interest in artist thing if they're come like in like opted in for something hey listen when you get a chance my phone numbers for you know you know x y z so they recognize the phone number as gimme call back when you get a chance and if you can't get back to me right away don't worry about it i'll go ahead and call you a backup with you when you say that here's what he said in made all the sense like if you left a voicemail and didn't say that i'll follow backup and you and they don't call you back then you call them again you know they're not gonna answer the second time they never called you back and you feel like they they feel dumb but if you say that like hey spec in fact my call if you can't get me don't worry about it i'll i'll reach back out to you they're most likely at that point the guards down they know who it is and they don't feel bad about answering the phone so i was like wow let's try that would just start doing it this week no that's awesome we used to just leave a voicemail calling back but now you saw that little line in the end of it makes so much sense so i'm excited to see how that does so props the hamper telling you that yeah and it's also the inefficiencies right everybody wants it'd be like yeah reach back out to me if you're interested and it's like no that's the fishing officiency does not win the race you have to be inefficient you have to be like yeah if you're too busy i'll reach back out you put that effort make that second call 'cause you know well they they likely you're never gonna call you back 'cause they probably are they might not even listen to the message right so it's like don't plants don't give yourself excuses or failure in like put in the work just like you said just just do it and it's all of these things comes back the simplest simple stuff yeah exactly you gotta do a little work and so that goes back to her very first point this is work this isn't a snap their fingers make a million dollar kind of anything i don't think there's anything out there that's like that maybe bitcoin on accident i don't know maybe foot you still have the money you put into it i dunno i just wanna get back to like the whole work ethic thing you gotta work ethic to make the business work like you're gonna have to put our new nafta pick pick up the phone after train the classroom gusto donna in the beginning i get it but if you don't do it you'll never make it to the point where you kind of step out a little bit yeah absolutely i think that was very very well put butts tim that fantastic i wanna be respectful of your time it was fantastic happened yawning shot and i just wanna to just kind of wrap things up you talked about kind of retargeting people on facebook so if anybody's listening is you know they they wanna do a little bit of that what wouldn't be maybe like the one or two kind of offers kind of last question the winner to offers that you might retarget those people went to kind of get them in the door okay so yeah you're you're saying you push video out the people going into these custom audience now it's time to pitch those people into something yeah what i would do and i and i preach just every jim and i think you should always have some type of evergreen offer a trial ross it's fourteen days for eighty nine they get a good mix of things they they're treated like a client and the reason i say evergreen because when you do in evergreen offer something that's always available you're team internally it becomes a system you know what to expect at each day of trial l on out of comfort that person if you're throwing a free offer out in a paid once thirty days now a six week challenge you you don't know how come people out of those shows every time friends different so we block downey strategic fourteen daily within fourteen days you know they know they're gonna join her not like i don't want extend it longer than that fourteen days my team still excited you get longer than that you're team starts the kind of like as this person gonna join a you know so we would give them specific amount of training in a specific amount of time we have touch points throughout the process in that's my are are system of each rile so that's what we would offer somebody after retargeting so you know i think that's great i also i think that you know brick and mortar it's gonna be even more important stat have that one offer that's gonna be first and foremost because if you are trying to change it every single time like most people do now you're trying to like build all new ads build an entire completely new sales funnel retrain you're team on how they need to fulfill on now it's a six week offer now this one is a different price point than you know all of these things too many moving parts of just gonna overcomplicated not only for the customer but for the team the back and fulfilling it you you nailed it end when you become known for that thing let's just say it's a fourteen day you're clients can actually sell that for you hey you know what marcy are they the guys at the gym at this fourteen do you want me to put you in touch they could sell that for you because they know most like that's how they started so if you have this consistent evergreen trial try us out small amount of upfront many converge in the back whatever that's it's easy for people to understand so yeah if you keep changing that nobody knows what the hell they offers anymore i can't sell it for you yeah exactly awesome well thank you so much for coming on 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Smokey Yunick Pt.1 - Racing's Greatest Cheater is Born
"What's up my name's Savannah Brian and I have a true crime podcast called killer instinct if you like true crime if you like learning about unsolved cases finding out more information about solved cases or learning about serial killers you are going to love a bigger obstacle in your way then that guy what the that obstacle James is called the rule book the rule book sometime assigned warning this episode of pass is not safe for work or kids I clever and devious cheaters? Today we're GonNa talk about one of the greatest shooters of all time smokey unit following on October thirty first we're going to be covering some of the craziest cases in history and some of the craziest cases that I have ever talked about yet comes the fastest drivers aren't the ones with the most skills behind the wheel or the best with the wrench sometimes they're the most single Wednesday so if you love true crime than this is the podcast for you go over and subscribe to my podcast killer instinct and I can't wait to see you there we have we had recorded a couple of episodes before they came out and so it's a huge relief that anybody out there like the James is that racing isn't all about reaching the finish line before the other guy but I mean that's who you WanNa beat but of course there's spooky sit down relax and listen to the story of one of the most notorious cheaters ever in motor sports that we have coming and as a bonus for Halloween I'll be posting a brand new podcast episode every day leading up to Halloween starting on October twenty eighth all the way to other wonderful episode of our show I love doing this sorry I dunno annoys Yeah I love doing this podcast again everyone smokey unique this is one of my favorite subjects I wanted to do this guy on up to speed since before the speed you're GonNa want and I'm like now for the show racing is probably my favorite thing in the world I love watching it and I love doing it I know but something you realize the more you progress Jn so stoked about this guy I know some of the stories but we're going to tell a lot more of that kind of this guy rules recommend that you listen to this episode with your kids on pass gas four days of back to back podcast true crime episodes that you were not going to want to miss and then after that we're going to be posting back on our regular schedule of every so much who's reached out to us and giving us nice reviews I was reading through a few of them and I feel so lucky to do this because it's one of my favorite things to do Hi Welcome back to pass gas doughnut media where we are some people who represent Donna media I am James Pump I'm known Sykes thank you so much for listening to an last-gasp please help us grow by giving us a good rating and a nicer view on the podcast platform of your choice to really help us out and I really appreciate it so thank you all right doing them for at least a few more months hopefully until the day we die totally like I just want to like keep improving the show and making it something that I've that I want let's roll in pig is welcome to the pass gas podcast back there in the corner you probably won't hear much but for flights in here shooting video love this Guy Colby here on the corner one of the masterminds behind after leader of all time you yeah so this episode He's GonNa we're GonNa talk about his life leading up to racing because it this episode is like the joker and then the next episode is like Batman yes sick yeah okay so smoky read very creative man can't see him or hear him but anyway I love doing this so let's get into it this is going to be a two part series on smoke a eunuch the greatest then he deflated the ball giving him that much more fuel and that is one of the Tamer examples guys tame pay attention his life up into racing racing primarily is going to be in the next one okay but this is worth learning about 'cause he don't breath but the thing that really made smokey smokey was his personality and to really explain his personality we have to cover his life the rules better than anybody one time he inflated a basketball inside his oversized fuel tank so in the marshalls inspected the fuel capacity it looked like it was legal listen to every time because you know I'm very self critical like I'll listen to some episodes and be like oh I should have said it differently I just want too much self I know was famous racing shops in America join us as we dive deep into the early life of smokey Eunuch is in sane this is a two part episode partner okay so the first one we're gonNA cover how he got here yeah how he got into racing you don't just become the greatest of all time out of nowhere yeah you have to have a backstory yet to be La- it's like the joker the joker I haven't seen the movie at it just came out four the race cars including his time spent in in both the European and Pacific front during World War Two and how that led him to establishing one of the I just want to be wanted to be a good yeah we always WanNa grow yeah but we also be proud of ourselves yeah I'm I'm proud of you I'm proud of Me Christina in part one of this amazing series our primary source today is the best damned garage in town my life and adventures written by another how I imagine the book is written is that he just sat on his couch and told stories for hours on end and his wife just tap them all down medically correct but then again neither smokey and I mean that's exactly how the book is so let's start from the beginning Henry smoked other was an immigrant from the Ukraine his childhood home didn't have electricity and never received a phone line it was heated solely by feels like you're reading a conversation you had with your crazy grandpa just crazy that he wrote all this like dictated all this talking about some woman who was having sex with and then jump to erase and then back to his childhood it's very complicated because he was a complicated I cannot describe the odor of baked goat in rabbit but let's just say it's bad brother the man himself smokey eunuch dude even wrote his own so cool actually it was mostly his wife Margie who typed it all up for him apparently normal weekend was fighting and smashing furniture his father was a great believer in beating the hell out of kids to keep them straight cool guy yeah sounds cool he did have a little sister Irene but they would not be close until much later in life we lived under the European attitude of control the kids close weren't really asked me and my dad Wayne has buddies what does that mean I don't know when the world could that mean are large coal burning stove in the basement when it was cold outside all the animals on the farm were brought inside around the stove to keep warm the book is out of print but definitely if you see it at like a used bookstore or something like pick it up there's no other book like it if you key eunuch was born in Mesh Amini Pennsylvania on a fifteen acre farm sometime in the nineteen twenties his mother was a Polish immigrant as hey good news and clean so I don't know it's over six hundred pages long and it was like he it's written in a very like stream of conscious way so writing this was a huge pain because it just jumps all over time and space smokey's life like you'll be talking about his childhood and then next that's how it happened smoke is blunt into the point in fact the tagline for this book was it's not politically correct or man and yes there will be a lot of sexual really relations holy crap this guy he's cool man like well someone's going to tell my story might as well be meat yeah but I got these big on meat hooks a hand so margie graphic computer field was by using a hand plow attached to horse unfortunately the UNIX farm had one of those one of those big budweiser horse's name too big so smokey decided to build one instead he bought a dodge with a big engine and transmission for ten dollars and afford truck duly ran for five dollars XLII worked at data them and train them to take care of the elderly what s Moakley smoothly put it he and his father and turns out he was pretty good at it his new tractor with his new tractor he could do the same amount of work in a day that would have taken over two weeks me on that brother smokey was never close with this family watching receiving near-constant abused between his mother and father my mother and father apparently didn't like each other with a hacksaw chisel and other hand power tools Henry smokey eunuch took his first stab at inventing and fabrication at the age of fourteen his wife and then there's other chicks and she was like down for it like Jim Bone in we were all so can wet pope all the time baby poops and that stuff doesn't smell good that's for sure not a lot of poop does which is something their listeners now that he can finally make a profit with farming smokey decided to invest some of his money in an old Indian Bonneville cheap motorcycle which he immediately crashed yeah I've been on this I've been I've been around the sun a few times and I gotta say I have yet to find poop smells good and you can take that to the bank he's like does that mean like you're such good friends like I would say Philippe Asks Buddy because he's my friend but also sometimes flee um I don't know if I want to be asked but he's not my dad on their farm the only way to plow accu socks off faster quicksand slow smoky hated every interaction he had with big bill so he did the reasonable thing he replaced bill with attract I but he's saying it like it's a positive yeah he's like like are we asked buddies yeah just a couple of ass buddy and then took off in the night he wanted to go to Hercules Virginia where they made dynamite did he wanna make dynamite do you ever have a rabbit grownup no friends had them we had a few roberts I don't really think they're great pets I could never get over the poops poop doesn't mean they're such good buddies that they've seen that's what I think that means we worked out together we're changing I drop my keys and you're like one day he saw a camel cigarette ad that had a famous motorcycle racer Bob Holloway on it he decided I'm going to be just like that dude after you kick me for the last time bill I told you John Deere just opened up down the road added push it Kahal garage a small general repair shop despite getting two jobs to make ends meet smokey's mom she decided to take him to court keep in mind he's like sixteen yeah smokey said screw that he packed a bag and his dog in army motorcycle he won at a farm auction smokey was forced to drop out of school take care of his family by taking his real first job at a Ford dealership the dealership didn't pay enough so we also work nights smokey found himself working at a mill machining ninety millimeter anti-aircraft gun barrels Warburg had just begun he wanted to participate in the war effort in started trying his hand and motorcycle racing he cleaned up that busted Indian chief petty bought a few years ago and took it straight to the racetrack turns out he didn't do a very good as little hiatus from life didn't last long and he would soon wind up back in Pennsylvania and every job he found he got fired from as he absolutely hated having a boss and you big old put Weiser's horse but tractors were an expensive luxury especially for families pours the UNIX awesome which I found out after I crashed my bmx bike a few months ago and broke my collarbone. I still feel like an idiot and I'm still paying the medical bill off somehow though he did try to get out of the jobs as he didn't want to handle the responsibility of handling such expensive asset but then decided to make them out of spite spital he didn't have health insurance so he decided that he was going to quit smoking and stop racing and looked at some new career paths because medical bills one of the best ninety millimeter barrel machinist in the state simply due to his want to spite someone yeah I kind of relate to that yeah yeah cloud a non support non support claims she claimed that he had failed to provide adequate financial support after his father died race he crashed into another racer head on is that even have no I own the wrong way I know this isn't Mario Kart and he ended up in the can't clean your room Nolan show you mom show you mom I am very susceptible to reverse psychology we'll get back to more pass gas job cleaning it up because it's smoked like hell and that is how he got the nickname smokey say as he was the one racing smoking Indian in its first I think so screw this I'm GonNa go make sticks. TNT Nick Not a Cobra something cool though Cobra would be very dangerous I just WANNA get one that eats like and reappropriated towards the war effort the factory that smokey had worked in had just begun manufacturing auto gyros for the military. It's like a helicopter definitely isn't as but but he's nice about it yeah but I mean there's I mean that's good buddies that they look at each other holes everyone he but it has an airplane tail yeah when I was a kid I saw that movie fly away home ought with the geese yeah and I was young does she refused to give me a monkey would you get your child a monkey now no probably won't even get my kid a dog that's not true thank someone tells you can't do something I'm going to do it yeah my parents should have employed that back when I was a kid I bet you s someone told him that the job would be way too much for him to handle I don't want to do it we probably can't do it you say I can't do it he became now a word from our sponsors America had just entered World War Two and factories all over were being purchased by the US government uh-huh trying to show off to some girls and as we'll see smokey unique legged girl in the beginning of his junior year smokey's father died from a heart attack true but like if I wanted to join the military I probably wouldn't ask you for I mean I would ask for advice but I won't be personality to ask if he can exactly so I don't know maybe didn't understand is like hey man he's a bill and big bill was sort of jerk you could say he was an ask your buddy had two speeds and it was either like I should have J. I think you'd be like I don't know maybe look up to this guy I think like maybe you would ask me in a way that it's like hey man I think I'm joining the air force so that he could be a pilot and surprisingly his boss is like yeah did ask your boss to be in the military I don't get what he's already working for the military the dogs are good I wanted to get the only exotic pet I ever wanted was a chameleon But I guess those things are like really sensitive like you have to you can't have like yeah I got a birth certificate guy if you need but back then like it was like writing your name on a piece of toilet paper backwoods but luckily his boss had just the right connections to get that patched up ooh wow so already military yeah and I'd be like okay it would be a should I join the military question not a can I join the Mil- and it doesn't sound like it's smokey's area and put them in there like they have like a certain humidity in the tank and like really temperature controlled so I said no I might get a snake what kind wants to fly it turns out I don't belong down here I belong up there with them geese him gaze smokey asked his boss for approval to enlist in to do with big bill so they shot big bill and eight okay 'cause they didn't do that just making sure you're paying attention these mice would you just let it go around the like right right when you walk in my front door to the right I'll just put light it really cool come thank you sir but smokey soon realized that there was one small problem with his plan the dude didn't have a frigging birth certificate and when that acetylene ignited the explosion sent hot metal into his left eye causing temporary blindness and in an hour the priests had created an entirely new birth certificate for smokey his birthday went from some time in May around nineteen twenty three wait kill sounds like a sick prank unfortunately for smokey is goggles were a little loose I mean your house is already kind of terrarium anyway it's like a humanitarian yeah so you'd walk in and immediately you know what I'm all about skeleton snakes I just WANNA or maybe like asking for permission but if it was possible he's like hey can I join the military and become a pilot like yeah we are called cones and rods and stuff and if you can't like a good indicator of vision is like being able to see colors correctly so like eight twenty fifth nineteen twenty-three and just like that smoky eunuch was in but it wasn't that easy for smokey just get in is now still right I was born checks out your here so smoky was sent to Philadelphia to meet with a Catholic priest determined that his vision had been slowly returning his left eye it was now nearly twenty twenty again but still not good enough to be a pilot even today that just before Christmas smokey had an accident at the shop a tube he was welding had been filled with acetylene by fellow welder while he was on lunch they won't let you fly if you can't perfectly see the color yellow the hardest of all colors to see anything less perfect than that was unacceptable yes I actually I looked at Chris Ages helicopters auto gyros and that sparked an uninspected interest in aviation turns my podcast it would really mean a lot to me if you could pause the show you're listening to right now head over to killer instinct and hit follow because you are not going to want to miss the episodes turns out the air force doesn't have any use for pilot who is blind in one eye smokey was transferred to the Radio Division in Sioux Falls South Dakota to be trained as a radio oh cadet he learned how to type in Morse code at a whole eighteen words per minute a a few months into his training he requested a recheck on his vision the doctors uh-huh guiding okay and his old ladies cool with that makes her Cooler Cooler Cool I love your on your house it's very cool balm also remember like crying because my mom and get wouldn't get me a monkey you cried because of the house is just like so mad he's like why like why I'll invite you over there Casey would love that I'm not I think she would so anyway he's he was making these terrible dangers and I was like mom I want to build an ultralight and my mom was like can't build an airplane as a candidate in the movie like jaw pilot's license the and like you know you have your your cones and rods in your I I didn't know that I'm not smart oh well okay in your eye the receptors that allied of like going through a huge battery of tests to see if you're like oh if we have good vision it's a psych hey what what is like to you yellow yeah perfect the past I'm going to be pie pilots are the coolest person in the world and Jesse and I read the Nascar Championship at the time for having set the world land speed record he thought it was so beautiful and someday he planned to live there once the war was over turns out smokey would say this about a lot of places primarily because of the women because like I said before a smoky while falling in and out of consciousness and only using the foot pedals that's insane this is all according to him a lot I do mean a lot there's a part in his book James where he explains how big his dogs Peter was in how bottles from the cockpit of his bomber near tractors and horses the bottles would whistle as they fell and sounded exactly like bombs which James he could use it as a tool to arouse women cool cool kyw cool book in the first one hundred pages of the actor allowed him to cheat a little to pass the exam and become a plane dreifort days later he was sent to Santa Ana California for pre only became desperate for pilots incidentally smokey suddenly became desperate to never work as a radio operator again so out of mutual desperation the flight school then to Marfa Texas for advanced flight training there he discovered that ninety five percent of trainees requested fighter pilots so he got moved over to bombers get the picture by now there was a lot of training involved in becoming a pilot fun fact that is still true today unsurprisingly the total cost of the concentration is about the same during one formation training smokey's appendix burst and twenty eight thousand feet his copilot was to it he liked the ladies throughout the best damned garage in town book smokey shares a lot of information about his sex life okay and when I say and then after two Dizon Dyersburg then after to Dyersburg Tennessee which is right outside of Memphis honestly at this point you all must inexperienced and inept to land the plane himself damning Gimme days kindergartner so smoky was forced to land the plane himself their pilots had all the training they needed not to die as losing even a single pilot was a major blow to the war effort Dyersburg was different than he quickly found that in Marfa Texas in the nineteen forties there was absolutely nothing to do except mess with the locals one of his favorites pastimes with dropping anywhere else smoke you had been they did live fire training with all their pilots having them practice with real ammunition to perfect their aim in combat they also specifically trained on how to fly in bombing formations it's kind of like driving a race car two hundred miles per hour sip race cars are inches apart and wait fifteen hundred thirty five hundred pounds training f twenty two pilots today is over ten point nine million dollars per pilots should even in World War Two it was in the government's best financial interest to ensure would scare the hell out of Dick after eighteen months of training in Marfa smokey was transferred to Roswell New Mexico B seventeen training I believe that's true I mean there's a lot of but yeah I dunno I believe I believe it yeah during one test flight he flew over Daytona beach the site famous astronauts like yeah that's crazy yeah like as the war raged on and US planes was shot down the air force I'm back that wording exactly after his plight over Daytona it was decided that smoky would be fighting on the European front and he was transferred to Marrakech Morocco book at least seventy of them having sex with a different person in a different way keep in mind viewers and listeners come at some point in time I remember those dates for this guy you may have noticed a May have noticed that there are no dates in this episode and that's because smoking there's his wife helped him and after his flight over Daytona it was decided that did I September twenty six nineteen forty nine about a bio don't call me once missionary I'm sorry read that back I definitely remember second on them right there down down arrived in Marrakesh some men from the local Legion taught him the virgin routine alumnae tonight lady I never did it before and tomorrow is really bad at remembering dates once he arrived for all the time that he had sex different it was about four thirty and was standing there and many more like it all the way through his early teens smokey he got raped both those kids got raped by the ahmaid die class works every time every time it's a local bartender anywhere anytime and we will learn his activity in the war enabled him to go even further with his desires and he was certainly I did not master this routine this guy I got I didn't not want like a softcore cinemax adaptation of smoking this book and one looks over to the other jobs like holding his trophy and the pilot says the other when he goes he didn't find F. Eighteen today all of his life smokey had been extremely sexual his first experience was when he was twelve with his friends mom as the free means will you sleep with me tonight according to smokey this approach is not bulletproof believe it or not you either get away or you gave snapping your snoop if you've got a slap in the snoot he would respond with a inet case I guess just to blow jobs out of the question in French as he puts it not the only one smokey went so far as to claim that his experiences in so many different countries during the war helped cure any bits of racism I mean Emmy True Crime were talking serial killers unsolved cases solved cases missing persons cases and so much more than my podcast killer lady that's no Bueno yeah that's not cool God like there was I mean this is a bit off the beaten path for our show but you may have had at this time he decided to get bolder with his appearance he had grown a beard and mustache to get what was known as the Jesus let eh and decided to shave off his endearingly titled Wound Broom and Beard for the ladies he called we'll be right back with more of this story but first from our sponsors hey guys what's up it's sedan killing someone even if they're being shot at themselves bomber command aircrews suffered one of the highest casualty rates in the war out of a total of one hundred twenty five emmer here sorry to interrupt the episode that you're listening to but I just wanted to take a quick second and talk to you about my podcast called killer instinct if you like true crime and arrested episode and I'll see you next time on killer instinct German in the beginning those firemen weren't very useful many air crewmen would blatantly refuse to pull the trigger
Ezekiel Elliot apologizes | NFL Hall of Fame makes changes for 2020
"Hey welcome in sinking ship podcast a more slur alongside mike evans scott the hub producing the show from hawaii that guy takes more vacation then any i like i need his agent his vacation agent dizzy i've won and now he's mocking us with videos yeah from the wash sunscreen lathered all over eighteen weeks he's a producer like fourteen weeks vacation i mean i don't know how he does anyhow good friend good friend him yeah you got the of i mean take that vacation while we grind away yeah we just keep wearing it is podcast people yeah exactly so that's what we do in it is brought to you by the way a the people who help us bring his podcast you free of charge the great people over at a core water core water hydrate draped with core dot com for more information i'm telling you what perfectly balanced seven points for a ph level which matches your body's natural ph level for the ultimate in hydration i'm telling you what always have a bottle of score with me a whether i'm in studio your 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you know it was you know somebody called this show it's it's a nudge a whatever whatever the case may be obviously can't do it in proceed kelly you gotta understand i mean you gotta be you gotta be one you gotta be smarter than that to if you know like i think one of the great things you could do in life is truly assessed assessed you're skillset if you know you're triggered like by certain things then just gotta keep yourself out of those situations if that's who you are if you got that you know that fight mentality if somebody bumps into you and you wanna you you wanna aggressive up on him i like to me you gotta understand that about yourself and then if you can't handle being in a public situation because everybody in the brothers uncle has got their cell phone on their boys going hey there zeke elliott let's see when caused some trouble all film but you know what i mean so ridiculous we are then i'll get a bunch of instagram likes you know or whatever the hell they i mean if you know that's who you are then you have got to be able to keep yourself out of those situations it means if it if it means sequestering yourself in your apartment house whatever wherever you liz then that's what you have to do my k but if it means getting suspended again it is that how roger goodell papa goodell could look at this that he he hasn't learned model avoid those triggers show were gonna yeah apple mcgann with another suspension i think that this i i don't think this who's an egregious thing i think the you know i i i think the roger goodell will air on the side of hey let's let's continue to work on fixing this i'm not gonna suspend you but you're on you know double secret you know top double secret pro however you say that probation secret probation double double secret where's the top commend though is hopped off seeker i don't i don't think there was ever a top it's just double secret agent just double secret probation doubles top secret double probably don't know it's just double secret probation right double top secret personnel no doesn't work that well anyhow he probably is on double secret probation you know he's he's not gonna get i don't believe that he'll get suspended but you have to understand i mean i mean you know it's a different world as it is different than what i grew up in where you know you could do some stupid things and nobody's got a phone filming it right i mean now you've got just be brighter you just gotta be smarter than that in a they're a lot of old school nfl guys just pro athletes in general who were like the you know therefore the grace of god collided there were not oh at phones around i would i would highly but think about as those guys now a lot of mature just with age in general so they probably don't leave kind of the way they they did liz nobody had day yeah during their time on i'm you'll yeah but i'm just saying even those guys have to make adjustments based upon you know whatever celebrity they garner whatever they've done in their life and understanding the changing world you know i mean here we come in right before the fourth of july which is a great holiday right i mean burgers and hotdogs my green chili smothered all over you're burgers and hotdogs shave dude yeah i mean it's it's all over you could find a costco you could find it in your king supers you're local in colorado but anyhow a in the freezer section so i think one of the things that's interesting this time of year you know you speaking of making good decisions like dfl fell will tell you do more smith and the guys will tell you fourth of july when the fireworks go off quit smoking weed they'll tell you because you know coming into training camp you're gonna have the we test so they always tell you hey man fireworks go off quit smoking weed until you pass the we test right because it usually comes in the second week of camp or whatever and they tell you when they're gonna do it they tell you win the test is coming make sure you're clean for the test and then go on and you could smoke weed all year long if that's your best year thing if that's what you wanna do not just go ahead and smoke as much as you want but right now like if you fail you fail the weed test in the nfl you're an idiot you're stupid but in this is it this timmy is zeke elliott this with the commissioner says they do if you make another mistake in public when you know you're triggered then your immediate end you're gonna get suspended speaking of a chair more smith a okay well what what the heck is going on here because they future of up perhaps a a full football season for all of us football junkies a rest on this so later this month the nfl peon nfl are gonna get together and talk about new collective bargaining agreement that expires after twenty twenty in an so there there's this sense of optimism that the two sides could work towards the deal end yet last month they're more smith sent out a letter to agents it's telling them to remind their clients just start socking away in saving money and be prepared for eight year long works don work stop yeah so on one hand we've got that very ominous a message being set by demar smith and he agents and yet this this positivity that's coming about with these these meetings later this month so what's going on well it'll be interesting because because you know you look at how these things have gone in the past in one it's neat i've heard this let's save this war chest i've heard this since the day i walked into a league and let me just just tell you that you know if you take a sample of a hunter guys ninety nine of them haven't saved enough money right it's just the way it is an you know i'm not i'm not angry adam 'em i'm not upset with him i i completely get it i understand it you know i say this all the time it's so funny how we put like how how we look at players in we put kind of are sense and sensibility on them like you know a guy gets drafted right and he's a high round draft choice he's a first rounder and he makes you know millions of dollars to sign his name on a piece of paper in instantly you know we want that guy who's done nothing but work on football nothing baba's disaster be a great player he's earned it he got the money and now we want him to be a certified financial planner like oh what a new idiot heat implant in all along the way you know he came from nothing you know and and so that i mean i understand how it happens i also understand the morris conceit of all these agents hey listen guys make sure you build up that war chest make sure you save all you're bonuses make sure you save all that stuff don't leave on any of that because we may have a year long work stoppage in i also understand that nobody's going to do it right and it comes down to the pay structure and the nfl anyhow i tell you this all times twenty eighty league twenty percent of the players make eighty percent of the money eighty percent of the players make twenty percent of the money in those eighty percent of players who make twenty percent the money try liv like the the twenty percent of the players you make eighty percent of the money right so they're keeping up with the joneses they've got the new cars have got the house's they've got all those things in push comes to shove you're just like every other american out there real you're three paychecks away from financial disaster every you know how many people listen to this podcast if they lost their job today three weeks from now you know or or you know not three weeks from now but three paychecks from now month and a half from now you'd be like oh shit right i mean that's that's how we lift this is a country of access and that's how we list lighter lump it i mean it's just the way it is and soda sit there in in you know the look at the money i mean i you know what when you started off in in you start off in your career and you don't have any money he took a data applebee's nothing wrong with applebee's is great you start making some money you're gonna shanahan steakhouse there you're gonna you're gonna morton just chicago you like you know what i mean it it are are are tastes change as we acquire more assets right as we require more money so it's nice to say hey build up towards the it's not gonna happen that's not gonna happen so it would behoove who've nfl come up with a good deal now when they will be who the players come with a good deal now wendy nfl is motivated to maintain labor peace and i think they are because things are really good right things they're expanding globally they may fourteen plus billion dollars like things were really good here's the deal like you need to negotiate one of the things is there's a lot of discrepancy see in in kind of the revenue split like what goes into the revenue pot in some like some of it from a gross standpoint some of the money that is made does not count to the money that is divided and shared so they want whole back money on stadium improvements in stadium renovations and i get that because right the the better the stadiums are you the one thing you need to understand is a television contracts pay a lot right of of the money but funny owners man they've gotta have people in their stadiums idioms right they've got to be able to create and generate revenue from their stadium so i understand holding some of that back for renovations and doing all those things 'em i think what what the players really need to do is instead of chasing short money chase long money chase healthcare chase the things that truly matter matter later in life but as a young player and you're twenty two twenty three years old you're bulletproof you don't you don't understand that you know i get it more now than i did when i was twenty three dollars and fifty three right and you got you got backs and i got knees it neither am i gonna need it has to be replaced here eventually got back issues you know you you have some of these other issues that it'd be nice to have insurance my insurance from the nfl ended it five years after i was done playing and it's you know those problems don't start showing up until after minimum they they do that they actuaries on that they know exactly when you're gonna start having issues like here will give you insurance for this much time in you know in in you'll you'll make it through and then all of a sudden you start having issues so it's it's the long money that i think they need the chase but i just don't think the players and i understand why they're shortsighted i mean the average career had the the length of the average career hasn't changed and in forty years is three point four years that's what it is in in three point four years the majority of guys are gonna make enough money to last a lifetime they certainly not gonna save enough money to last a lifetime so that's really what you need to be looking at like if you're vested rested veteran an end you've done this for a long time there's no question in my mind you should have lifetime health insurance you should but will they go for that will they will they be will will they had the long view as opposed to the shore view 'em but i do think the nfl is motivated you will be great for me as a former player to see them kind of sidestep some of their differences in hang onto the things that you know to me that or collaborative to to make it a better place you know unless kind of enke's between management in in players i think those things would be would be great i just don't know if that's ever gonna happen but mike well things are good right now fifty nfl and they're getting ready for their one hundred year celebration in part of that one hundred year celebration is there's talk that in twenty twenty the hall of fame class good swell to twenty people be idea being that there are many players especially from the past that that really are deserving but if slip through the cracks ended up the longer we we go on the likelihood the chances of them ever getting in decrease so what about the idea for one year we really expand the class and bring in a lot of these guys who probably should be in and if they're ever gonna get in now has to be the time as part of this expanded class yawn so here we're here we are in denver okay right end you look at some guys like a random grad asher right who is a great player for the broncos for years the put up the kind of years that if you've been playing for the steelers or playing for the packers he automatically be in the hall of fame right now but he was doing it in relative anonymity with the broncos in he sort of slip through the cracks yeah but those at washington back in the day will tell ya great football when you say more when i was a kid watching the steeler fan growing up i mean i grew up in alaska and i love the steelers steelers ron in alaska they were the national game every morning right you you get a steeler game in in you know they accidentally the cowboys game and so you know brannagh rather sharply middle linebacker for the cowboys he'd be a hall of famer yup there's no question in my mind so but you like you said he lives in anonymity here playing in in the mile high city and he was a great player but back in those days growing up watching it i mean i never really watched randy gratis tropics those those watching the steelers but it was the two middle linebackers of their era where jack lambert for the steelers and randy gresham yep they were considered the best middle linebackers in football jack lambert long since been in the hall of fame as you know all those linebackers jackhammers in you know i mean they've got a bunch of guys where the steelers all those seventy and rightfully so because the steelers defense of the seventies is still gordon deepest was phenomenal but that said it would it would rectify some some quote unquote wrongs 'em in in that committee votes hall of famers in in so that part would be good i mean i could imagine having sit through thia be induction ceremony that would be like a four day induction ceremony with the way they these speeches have gone lately lord have mercy spread it out over two days no big deal i mean everything they do like they say hey hey what what you're supposed to get through you're induction you're supposed to get like oh like twelve alternate yeah guys go forty five fifty remember we're getting ready for shannon sharpe were like yeah right twelve minutes please they'll just be he won't be there'll be just warming up by the time it gets like thirty five yeah i don't i mean i i know it's it's but you can't it's hard can't be against this just because you're worried that this this speech teachers are gonna drag on too long i mean this is about recognizing guys careers in why can't guys do it in in in the time allotted 'cause come on this is a i know it's a once in lining achievement it's a once in a lifetime thing you could do it in twelve minutes oh heck yeah i was great any questions boom boom done where's the fake yeah where's the buffet hey speaking of food yes this is probably something that nobody wants to hear about fourth of july weekend okay mhm but a i wanna talk about body fat do you know yes okay in body sculpting well you know you're an expert on the body fat part i body sculpting you might have something to learn their patrick mom's a says that he's he's making this off season a priority the drop weight lower body fat body sculpt you know do all these things at age twenty four that tom brady is doing i mean it is a you know mid late thirties into his forties do is this the tom brady effect yes it is it is like i you know how many times i've said during the course of of my post playing career how many times i've said to myself i should've taken better care of myself like i started late in my career would you know by weekly twice a week massage and different things that i did as a young player just never just wasn't part of the deal right 'em i mean when i was a young player it was i mean we still medicated you know but it was anything you need it used to go hey man this really bother me here's bill for it how do you know that when i first got in the nfl that they eat probably get some people it will you know be angry about this but it's just true so i mean i'm not making it up it's it's true that we used to get on the plane first off those boost there's like me beer after game after game so you get on the plane and there was the plan is chock full of beer right so you grab a couple beers you get on a plane grim couple beers and then one of the doctors would come down the aisle with a like a little it wasn't a full manila envelope but it was like one of the smaller ones like a six by eight or whatever full like vicadin and they'd roll down and say how many maybe like a take to give you a couple of pain pills while washed down with a few beers right i mean that's and then you'd have to thirty eight thousand feet fred and then you land and drive home i mean that's how they operate yeah now thankfully they've they've changed all those rules right he can't do that stuff anymore and there's all and its own all that stuff but but you've seen a shift in the way guys take care of themselves how much money like james harrison james harrison would reportedly spent about six hundred grand a year on his body and just maintaining his health with your oxygen tank chambers and massage therapist and you know acupuncturist in like he had a whole staff of people but just worked on him 'em but i do think this is defective tom brady i think guys are looking now at tom brady and drew brees and and they're saying man like i could do this for us here in denver the the thought of patrick mahomes going ham twentyfour and i take better care myself and i want longevity here the fact that we may have to face him for the next twenty years about it right think about that i that i didn't i didn't really put the math together until we start talking about it but brady said he thinks he could play the forty five and is there any evidence you see these things were patrick mahomes it was thrown a football they wanna see what kind of velocity yet and he threw it in the sixties like on the football which you know the football has a lot more resistance 'cause heavier baseball so throwing it in the sixties is like a you know from the from the bump it's like a ninety mile an hour fastball i'd probably low nineties ninety one right so tom brady gets one of those little little radar guns and then you know you could argue the accuracy of those things but they're close right within a few miles an hour and he throws one sixty one at forty he'll be forty two and august yup so he throws the ball he throws the ball with greater velocity and better accuracy now at forty one then he did at twenty four right so if these quarterbacks so the braves of the world the breezes the world the rogers in the world they look back on their careers are like wow man what the heck was i think he was twenty four twenty seven twenty eight man by taking better care of myself back then who knows what i'd be like right now right and they're talking about being able playing in the mid forties so how sobering is it if a guy like mahomes is already onto this at age twenty four an as the nfl fan or if you're a bronco fan or a raider fan or charger fan you're thinking wait a minute i could be having a face this guy for the next twenty years that's that's sobering that's frightening that's depressing endo watch what to watch what that guy did last year you don't we make so much out of patch mahomes and rightfully so we make so much out of his off schedule plays 'cause they're tremendous we saw the left handed completion we saw the hey scramble around and throw it sidearm looking down the middle of the field out the left hand side line for complete we saw all these remarkable fourth down a nine scrambling around chuck one forty five yards down the football field in the hands of tyreek rehill for a win against baltimore we we saw all these remarkable off schedule plays because they're highlight reel their their sports center real you know their their top plays right so we see all that we take grant how good he is all unscheduled how good he is looking off safeties how good he is reading defenses and he's only gonna get better ant if he can stay healthy healthy any in take care of his body maintain it that way you're talking about at the end of his career you're talking about one of the greatest quarterbacks potentially one of the greatest quarterbacks ever if he you do begin stay on the same core studies show look kids legit but but still sent some sort of i dunno market correction this year i mean the guy threw fifty one hundred yards and fifty touchdowns in i mean is that where the bar is set or do you like if you're put any over under on touchdown passes from moms this year what would it be about allows put in the over under on touchdown passes i would say that you gotta think about that kid it always throw in about thirty five a year which is a pretty good number right a pretty big number 'em and then you know tell me how many games tyreek hill get suspended for tell me how many like these ease and i've told you this ad wink martindale when i was calling a baltimore game who is the defense coordinator for for the baltimore ravens tell me that in all the years he's been coaching coaching forever now i've never seen is equal as far as the dynamic speed player you know i mean obviously he's he's got great skillset 'em when it comes to catch the ball and doing all those things so i've never seen is equal he is the fastest impact player i have ever seen in my entire life in like he's a huge difference maker so there's gonna be some i think they'll just be some market correction in general in a room because they're usually always is after he big year like that but it's not gonna be like all of a sudden he's gonna be scrambling around you know he's gonna be scrambled throat twenty seven touchdowns he's gonna be in the mid thirties you know probably approaching forty on a year to year basis with the talent they have right now it would play design of andy reid and andy reid is great the greatest it it all that stuff he really is a kid's gonna rewrite director bookshelf oh lord mercy lord a brown that's great and all but gotta have the super bowl's go with the two yet elevate yourself to that wanna be yeah in the conversation because right now there's there's one in there's do you like you gotta have you gotta have a legitimate argument for who is like two three four five two three four five yeah but there's there can be only one there can only be one in like he has gotten themselves to appoint the world's the greatest american he's got himself to a point where it's like the conversation for wide receiver jerry rice greatest receiver of all time everybody just goes oh jerry rice right everybody does okay i'm good with that we move on right that's where we are at quarterback right now yes quarterback vote on some radio i'm okay with that long yeah no i we've yeah even from people who would not have felt that way a few years ago now they're coming for and there's like yeah we've grudging grudging respect whatever eighteen years but seventeen years where he's played because he had the ac l y like week one of of of the two thousand one eight seven or something like a seven seed or whatever was 'em so in seventeen years the he's actually lined played nine of the seventeen ended in a super bowl with six super bowl victories did that that's incredible it's high at how they fc championship games twelve twelve or thirteen over thirteen yeah i mean anytime yeah twelve or thirteen yeah it is i mean i i do but it history it's ridiculous it really is i mean i and i've said this before and i'll say it again promises on this podcast human nature when you have success is to get fat right just kind of sit back and it meyer handiwork like this defies human nature to continue to work continued to perfect continued grind continue to do the things that set you apart do more than you did the year before and not be satisfied buyer success that defies human nature and that's what's the most amazing thing to me about this wrong the patriots have been on it's amazing well a speaking about getting fat yeah i encourage everybody get fat this weekend have a great fourth of july is gonna be it is don't worry about body sculpting no no i you know what you know what i'm gonna give you a hint okay here's the deal 'em the perfect way to a beach body you're ready put on a bathing suit and go to the beach said that you beach body you gotta beach body right get a tan enjoy fourth of july means celebrate have fun man enjoy be responsible
Rough passage (August 2019)
"<MUSIC> A._O.. P._A.. Presents never again true pilot stories from the world of generally aviation in this episode engine trouble above a solid overcast with known icing. That's not good find out what happens. In rough passage by Jose G re-re on December twenty one two thousand eighteen. I started a flight light to Tulsa Oklahoma to visit friends and family for the holidays. I've been watching the weather and I was concerned with icing in the clouds as the ceiling of Fonda County Airport in Wisconsin were forecast at about two thousand feet one hour our prior to departure I contacted flight service and the briefer indicated that two turboprops descending in the area had reported light rime icing between four thousand and two thousand feet near Dubuque Iowa there were no specific reports for the tops or the bottoms but they were forecast to be about six thousand after leaving fond lack and then via far as I neared Kirk Ville Iowa after takeoff from fond lack. I found that the ceiling was about two thousand five. Hundred feet I contacted Milwaukee approach and asked for information on the tops as I did not want to be in the clouds for too long because of the possibility of icing Milwaukee approach indicated that the top's had been reported four thousand mm feet and it was clear on top requested my clearance and I was cleared as filed and to climb to eight thousand feet I set power pedo heat and started a high speed climb but to our surprise we we picked up light rime ice on the windshield after leveling off at eight thousand feet. I did my crews checklist turned on the autopilot and was cleared direct Madison my wife at this time had opened her book and started reading as she usually does. When we are comfortable in cruise after passing Madison I began to notice a little roughness in the engine? I thought it might be carburetor ice so I turned the carb heat on for a moment and then back off then I started to play with the mixture thinking perhaps I had the engine to lean this did not help a great deal and in the meantime I was losing altitude as I was not paying attention. I reached for the throttle to add more power and to my surprise. Is it would not go in any further. That's one Milwaukee approach asked me if I had trouble and if I needed any assistance this of course put my wife into high alert I advised approach that we were having some some issues with the power and I was trying to troubleshoot so the controller gave me a block altitude of six thousand to eight thousand feet and asked me to contact Chicago Center soon after I changed frequency the engine began onto run rough I turn carb heat full on and this seemed to help but when I turned it off the engine just got worse so I left it on. This was my first real emergency above a cloud deck with no visible ground around below me and a rough running engine. I declared an emergency and asked Chicago Center for the Closest Airport. I also turned off the autopilot to hand fly. The Airplane Center said Dubuque was twenty five miles in front and in Madison about the same distance so I advise them that I wanted to return to Madison. As soon as I began to turn the engine became worse I asked center if there were other airports closer as I did not believe I was going to able to make dubuque or Madison. The Controller pointed out the airport of mineral point at my nine o'clock and ten miles I immediately turned toward the airport and looked up the approach plate. The engine began to surge. Urge and I realized that the propeller governor was acting up as it was trying to maintain twenty. Two hundred RPM thought maybe we were losing oil as well. I lowered the R._P._M.. And this seemed to help with the surging frankly I was not paying attention to any of the engine instruments as my attention was focused on trying to get us on the ground safely and through the overcast I was able to maintain about seven thousand five hundred feet. The Controller said something about descend and maintain three thousand but I told the controller I was going to maintain my current altitude until I was over the airport. My main concern was being in the clouds for a long time and then having to do with ice in addition to a rough running engine when I pulled out the plates for the airport the first one that popped up was the Arnav for runway four in direct line to where I was coming from since I have geo referenced approach plates elites from four flight I was able to get situational awareness and when I was over the airport I decided that since I had some power that it would be best for me to fly into a straight line on the approach rather than spiral through the clouds. <hes> I turned in the opposite direction from the airport following the approach path and when I was somewhat close to the final approach fix I turned back got the airplane lined up and told my wife that we were going to descend somewhat rapidly in order to minimize time in the clouds. I advised Chicago Center that we were descending and he asked me to change frequency which I did. I reduced power and put the nose down to get about an eleven hundred foot per minute descent. I believe it was about two thousand and when we broke out of the clouds completely in the airport was right in front of us I then realized that I was so focused on the approach through the clouds that I had completely forgotten about making any announcements payments on the frequency we landed and I let it roll close to the end then the nose wheel began to Shimmy. This is the last thing I need pulling up. The nose did not help so I put more breaks on and more weight on on the wheel this stop the Shimmy and I was able to turn at the end of the runway apron and taxi to the F. B.. O. Building after shutting down we sat in the airplane for about ten minutes thanking God for taking us down safely. I called Flight Service and told them to call Chicago Center and tell them we were on the ground safely. After a total engine tear down we discovered that a couple of hydraulic lifters were clogged with some kind of gunk this prevented complete combustion in two of the cylinders and caused the misfiring lessons learned from this experience number one fly the airplane number to stay in the clear at as high as possible until you can make landing and number three. You are the pilot in command. The controller has no idea what is going on outside your altitude. I thank the Air Safety Institute for putting out a lot of training material which which I review on a regular basis and it is one of the factors that affected the successful outcome of this flight. Could I have done things better and different sure however when you're in the emergency and the adrenaline is pumping you may not be able to think very clearly or have the time to do other things so concentrate on flying the airplane the never again podcast is brought to you monthly by my a._l._p._A.. The Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association you can find more never again stories online at A._O.. P._A.. Dot Org by type big never again into the search box while you're there check out a O. P. as mobile.
Contrasting Claims On What Brought Down Ukrainian Jetliner In Iran
"It's looking increasingly likely that an Iranian missile shot down the Ukrainian airliner that crashed after takeoff from Tehran. This week all one hundred seventy six people on board died many of them. Canadian citizens Canada's Prime Minister. Justin Trudeau made this announcement today. The evidence indicates that the plane was shot down by Iranian surface to air missile. This may well have been unintentional. The crash occurred early Wednesday morning. Iran time NPR's. Jackie Northam is following this fast moving story and she's here in the studio. Hi Jackie Trudeau. Statement seems to be the clearest so far on what may have happened to the Ukrainian International Airlines flight. What more did he have to say? True says that intelligence from several sources including Canada's own intelligence agency indicate that the Ukrainian airline was brought down down by a surface to air missile shortly after takeoff from Toronto International Airport and he said that the strike may have been accidental British Prime Prime Minister Boris Johnson. Later Echo Trudeau's Comments you know are all day long. We've been hearing reports from unnamed Pentagon and intelligence officials here in DC that Iran may have been brought may have brought down the plane and President Trump alluded to this earlier in the day. Let's listen somebody could have made a mistake on the other. Aside could've could've made a mistake. It was flying it was it was flying in a not. Our system now had nothing to do with US I. It was flying in a pretty rough neighborhood and somebody could have made a mistake. Tell us what's known about what exactly happened that night right. The plane crashed amid high tension in the region after Iran launched missiles US military bases in Iraq and that was in retaliation for the US targeted killing of Major General Custom Sula Mani and he was is a senior Iranian military commander a few hours after that incident the Ukrainian Airlines took off from Tehran airport and had reached about eight thousand feet and suddenly lost contact with ground control and there are some pretty dramatic videos out. There are showing this aircraft engulfed in flames and crashing near the amusement park. Aviation experts. Were skeptical that this was some sort of a technical failure. Because this plane this Boeing seven thirty-seven eight hundred is considered reliable. Reliable in this particular plane was only three years old. The Iranian sang. It was a technical failure. What is their version of this story? Right from the beginning they came a very quickly. They are audience authorities ladies and said the plane suffered a mechanical failure and they have stuck to that explanation since our colleague Mary. Louise Kelley interviewed Olly Rabiu. And he's a spokesman. Oh c'mon for Iranian President Hassan Rohani. She sparked She spoke with him today and she asked him if there was a chance. That Iran accidentally shot down the Ukrainian Aircraft and Rubio told her that was impossible. He said that they have satellites and they would have seen a missile hitting the plane. I understand Ukrainian. Investigators are now in Iran helping with the investigation. Any idea how long it'll take to go through the debris and get a firm answer to the questions about what happened right. There about forty five Ukrainians Iran in Iran now to investigate what happened and they'll work with their Iranian counterparts. This can be a pain staking process at the best of times and it can only be more challenging now. How because it's in Iran There are long established protocols that should allow for the US National Transportation Safety Board to help with without investigation. Because the plane was manufactured by Boeing. Here in the. US Prime Minister Trudeau said Iran has indicated. Canada will be able to help in the investigation Gatien but Canadians haven't got their visas yet. In two also said Iran had indicated that it would keep the black box that's N._p._R.. International Affairs correspondent Jackie. Northern thank you. Jackie thanks sorry.
Say again (October 2019)
"Ao Pa presents never again true pilots stories from the world of generally in this this episode a one seventy two pilot calls tower and receives an instruction. That's completely Greek to him. Of course he is flying in in Greece. This could be interesting. Bring Your Greek dictionary and ride along in say again by Carl Doorman as I entered the down wind leg of the Corfu Greece airport I contacted tower and I did not understand understand a word they said now what to do. It was nineteen eighty four and I was flying from Rhode Island to Israel in one thousand nine hundred sixty exte- Cessna one seventy two with my flight student Aria Rona the trip recently brought us through the beautiful Rhone Valley in France over the Mediterranean NC for three hundred and twenty five nautical miles in instrument conditions and route to Ciampino International Rome's secondary airport as we checked in with Roma approach at nine thousand feet requesting vectors to final at Ciampino. We could hear that the controllers were quite busy we we were assigned to holding pattern at nine thousand feet northeast over the Roma. VR which is adjacent to the Ciampino airport we were preparing to land on runway one four as advised by the Avis. So who do you think were the best air traffic controllers on the entire trip. I can tell you without hesitation. It was the Italians the controllers stepped us down a thousand feet at a time from holding pattern to holding pattern I two eight thousand feet then to seven thousand feet all the way down to one thousand feet and then vectored us to the final approach to runway one four for these controllers were so smooth and so professional as the handled us with kid gloves we switched over to one to zero point five Ciampino Tower and we're cleared to land and then guided to the runway exit where we switched to ground control and taxi to the F. B. over parking we stayed in Rome for two days to see some of the famous historical sites now it was Sunday we were ready to continue our trip the next destination Brindisi on the east coast of Italy just two hundred sixty nautical miles to the southeast we noticed that there was very little air air traffic along the way and at the airport after landing we'd taxi to the FBI to get fuel and we're surprised to find everything was closed at the Brindisi airport. We had forgotten it was Sunday. It did not occur to us that some places at the airport might be closed. We were lucky enough to meet some pilots from the local Brindisi Flying Club. WHO said they could help us? After we told them our plight their club did not usually sell fuel to pilots not members of the club but they graciously made an exception. Thank you Brindisi Flying Club. We then departed from Brindisi to the east one hundred ten nautical miles across another part of the Mediterranean Sea to Corfu an island in Greece also known as Kirk era after listening to the Kirk Avis and contacting Kirk your approach. We were advised to change to frequency one to zero point eight five and contact. Kirk here a tower. We checked in with tower on the downwind leg of runway three five asking for permission to land. I heard a clear response. That sounded to me. Something like Gorky. Mom Bit Blit Loiter. I asked the controller say again his reply. I again sounded similar to Gorky Moment Lipton. Loiter had absolutely no idea what this controller was saying to me. I thought it would be best just to broadcast my intentions and slow and clear English and proceed to runway three five which was a comforting seven thousand seven hundred hundred ninety two feet long as I continue down wind opposite might touchdown point. I again broadcast my intentions receiving again a similar undecipherable reply from the tower. I still understood nothing. I repeated my intentions again. Dan as I turned final received the same response and I landed after taxiing departing. I decided it would be a good idea to visit the tower her see the controller and find out what he said upon entering the tower as the controller began speaking to me here was the same sounding founding voice but now that I could see his lips moving. I had no problem understanding him. I discovered he understood me just fine and that he was telling telling me proceed as requested so much for English being the International Universal Aviation Language Eleven learned not understanding the tower controller is just as bad as lost come stay focused become all fly the airplane and continue your approach broadcasting your intention slowly in clear English look for any light signals from the tower our if no signals land and clear the runway as soon as possible the never again podcast is brought to you monthly by Ao PA The Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association. You can find more never again stories online at AO PA DOT ORG by type big never again into the search box while you're there check out ao as mobile flight planning APP. Hey OPA OPA go as well as the many free training and safety courses from the Air Safety Institute find all of this and more at A._l._P._A. Dot O._R._G. The never again podcast is produced by Royce Earl. Thanks for listening fly safely.
The rapid rise of covid in Europe
"Today's episode is sponsored by comcast. Good Morning. Welcome to axios today. It's Thursday October fifteenth. Boudou, here's how we're making you smarter today the energy costs of working from home. Close how the NBA is pulling off a historic voting effort. I though the rapid rise of Corona Virus in Europe again is today's one big thing. The. Recording more corona virus cases as a proportion of population. Then we're recording here in the US Dave Lawler is actually his world editor and he's here now to update us on the latest in Europe good morning Dave learning can you just give us a quick rundown of what we're seeing particularly within the EU for months and months? We saw Europe able to keep cases much lower than they have been here in the United States. Obviously, they had that huge spike in the spring that was very scary and then things kind of got under control but. Starting in August, we've started to see this uptick that's really accelerated in the number of countries including France Spain the UK Netherlands and Belgium are all sort of at the early of this spike here, and now what we're seeing governments figure out how to respond because all of a sudden we're talking about lockdowns again. So when we say that different countries are talking about lockdowns, what did we see yesterday? So France came out and said that they were going to put Paris in a number of other large cities under a curfew the middle beyond the global. xmatch say. All own it in it to lose until. Is Meta done that's nine pm to six. AM We've already seen a quarantine imposed in Madrid where people aren't able to travel in and out of there and the UK is putting targeted restrictions in place so we can squash this virus wave. It appears we all today simplifying standardizing and in some places toughening look rules in England why did cases go back up do we know so governments have given different explanations but a lot of it is that people got complacent right? You had especially younger people began to socialize again you. Have Large family gatherings again, and in many cases, those restrictions were gone so you were allowed to do that right but we have seen that as people get together in large groups as people start to let their guards down a little bit we've seen it in the United States and we're seeing it in Europe. These things can reverse relatively quickly. Do we have a hope that things will be better this time as we are better able to treat the virus when it comes to fatalities? Yeah. There are a few reasons to be. More. Optimistic. One of which is that we saw this wave coming governments know what's ahead of them. They know what the challenge looks like and in some cases they know what they have to do. So that's part of the government's what to do to a certain degree, but also testing is much much more widespread during this spike in. Europe than it was during the initial spike in the spring. So just because we're seeing even more cases recorded on a day in France than we saw maybe back in April when things were. Really bad doesn't mean that they're necessarily more cases in the population. Hopefully, what it means is we're catching them early we're not just waiting until people get into really dire situations before we know they have the virus there are reasons to believe that you won't see a direct correlation between this massive spike in cases to a massive spike in deaths but obviously, you know we do need to be worried about things that we were talking about back in the spring hospital capacity things like that if these trends that we're seeing now continue. Taylor writes the world newsletter for axios. Thanks Dave. Thanks now. We'll be back in fifteen seconds with working from home is raising your energy bill. Comcast is launching more than one thousand Wi. Fi connected lifts up in community centers nationwide providing a safe space for low income students and families to get online and access to resources they need to navigate distance-learning learning. More at comcast dot. COM Slash Internet essentials. Welcome back to Axios? Today. You might not know this. But before I moved to DC I've lived in the Midwest and if you've ever had to work from home during a polar vortex, like I, have think back to your energy bills Ben Gilman is an energy reporter for axios and we both been working from home for the past few months Ben's been looking into how that affects residential energy costs. Then can you tell us what you're expecting this winter? So the forecast right now is that this winter is going to be somewhat colder than last winter, and that is one of the reasons why the Energy Department is predicting higher winter heating cost this upcoming season they basically said there are two reasons. One is a somewhat colder forecast and the other is that people are going to be spending more to heat their homes because they're spending so much more time there most people of course, don't keep their home heated to quite the same level when they are not there are people being more for their energy bills, not just because they're using more, but because the price has gone up, the main thing is that people are consuming more simply because they're at home more because of the pandemic there's. Some new research by Economists Name Steve Sakala, and what he finds is that in the period from April to July, he sees nationwide average ten percent increase in residential electricity consumption, and that translates into an average monthly increase of about eleven dollars per household. Now, that doesn't necessarily sound huge. But if you're already economically struggling, it can be a really big deal and of course, I would say non pandemic times families that are on the margins oftentimes had to choose between paying for example, and electrical bill in a grocery bill from your reporting. I wonder how concerned people are about how? Much, more dire. That is now it's definitely more dire because again you've got higher bills at a time when people are less equipped to deal with them there are right now I believe seventeen states that have some type of moratorium on place on power companies shutting off people's power during the pandemic. But on the other hand, there's thirty three states that have moratoriums that have either expired or were never put in place to begin with. So yet people are definitely hurting and in a lot of places don't have any type of safety net in terms of their power consumption and power system. What we're watching now is how much of our energy consumption changes because of the pandemic we don't know if the environmental benefits of less commuting will outweigh the increase in energy because we're working from home, but these new patterns could result in lasting change to her overall carbon footprint for good or bad. Game is an energy reporter for axios. Most people think about voting in places like churches or schools. But this year, there's a new place to vote not just by mail but in sports arenas that is because of the NBA can baker sexiest sports editor, Hey Kendall, their arenas that are already open where people have already started voting. Yeah. Great example would be Atlanta's state farm arena home of the Hawks, three, hundred voting machines and. Opened on Monday and there earlier views have been very positive I. think if you look at Georgia where there's kind of horror stories of our long waits voting centres being shut down you now have reports of people saying they got through their the arena ten minutes and it's a great solution right because they're big places that are generally are open where people can safely social distance. Exactly. There's also the accessibility. If you think about most stadiums, they're centrally located people just know. Where they are or have heard of them maybe that reaches a new type of voter somebody who wouldn't have been engaged previously that is more into sports per se than politics. Oh, whether it leads to higher turnout remains to be seen I think that we can say pretty certainly that it will appeal to potentially attract voters who wouldn't have been attracted otherwise I'm excited to vote at NAT stadium. That's where I'm going to be voting Kendall Baker axios sports editor thanks Kendall. We've got a little story for you. Before we end today's show about a dream coming true for Japanese man named Jesse Katayama. The. Twenty six year old finally got to see mocked up chew the Stop was supposed to be an end of the round, the world trip, but then the pandemic hit and he's been stuck in Peru since March. So the best of it, he connected with the local community through his love of boxing and they helped get his story to peruse culture. Minister who gave him special access to Macho this week without another tourist incite he got to experience the sprawling ruins of the ancient fortress eight thousand feet above sea level. Amazing. Thank you. 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Multiplying risks (December 2019)
"This episode of never again is brought to you by Garmon. Find out more at Garmin DOT COM slash aviation a COPA presents. Never again true pilot stories from the world of General Aviation in this episode accepting a number of seemingly seemingly minor risks endangers vacationing Cherokee pilot and his family. Get your IOF are chops ready. And let's go for a night ride in and multiplying risks by John Parker. It was Labor Day weekend and I was looking looking forward to a weekend at lake. Tahoe with my family. I flew my wife two toddlers up to truckee Tahoe airport from San Carlos airport just south of San Francisco. The flight was uneventful aside from a delay because of a disabled aircraft on the runway the flight home however was anything but on on eventful. The plan was to depart Monday. At Seven PM. Sunset was at seven thirty five so that would put me well out of the mountains. Before for darkness fell it would also allow the air to cool down enough to get the density altitude below eight thousand feet which I had decided was my limit the the airplane needed to be as light as possible for the high density altitude departure so I only added ten gallons of fuel at truckee after I arrived. I had confirmed that I'd get another night at our hotel if I needed to wait until morning. We had a good time Monday. Floating down the truckee truckee river and letting the kids ride bikes. I began loading and pre flighting the Piper Cherokee one eighty at six PM. I was pretty tired but judged myself okay for the flight. My weather briefings showed fifteen knots of headwind from the south and a slight possibility of an overcast layer at San Carlos. I was happy to see the winds. Were only fifteen knots as that allayed concerns about mountain wave turbulence. The graphical forecasts showed owed only scattered clouds at one thousand one hundred feet but the San Francisco Taff had a broken layer at that altitude. It's common for San Francisco. Oh to be sucked in while. San Carlos is clear so I expected clear skies for landing. I was planning to pick up an F. R. Clearance once I was out of the mountains. Anyway anyway what I didn't do at this point was reevaluate. My fuel situation. I had two and a half hours of fuel onboard on board. The trip would take one point. Three hours in zero wind giving a tight but acceptable margin however I had a headwind to deal with also the nearby marginal ceilings at San Francisco should have been caused plan fuel for a missed approach and alternate. It's hard to say exactly actually why I didn't do this. But it was probably a combination of all the family and loading details as well as my seven PM deadline and fatigue league. We took off from truckee at seven. Fifteen on climb out. I manage five hundred feet per minute at the Y.. which was is about seventy five fee permit better than I had calculated? We turned on course toward Donner Lake and headed West over the mountains. A flaw aw. My plan became immediately apparent. We were faced directly into the sunset. My forward visibility was terrible. I couldn't see much to my right because of my position in the cockpit but I could see to the left. I flipped to the terrain page on my arm and GM S. four thirty and navigated via the red and yellow blotch four flight. And what piloted I could manage. I also had my wife Watch for terrain out her window. Thankfully the air there was smooth with zero down drafts. I breathed a big sigh of relief. Once we made it up to ten thousand five hundred feet and the terrain page was a reassuring black. I trimmed for crews and we enjoyed the beautiful sunset views over the mountains. Once we got over the central the valley night fell and I picked up my I F R clearance with nor cal approach. They immediately informed me that San Carlos was closed because because of an accident. I thought it was pretty impressive. Luck to have my destination closed on both legs of the trip. I told them I'd switch to Palo Low Alto in quietly hoped. san-carlos would reopen in time after getting my clearance Iran. Another cruise check. I was only making one hundred hundred knots over the ground based on the winds and my expected iof are route. I'd land with forty five minutes fuel remaining. Yikes the the whole South Bay was still reporting good via far though so I wasn't concerned about going missed. I seriously considered declaring minimum fuel. But it didn't as I couldn't remember the exact requirements. Clearly I should have as any delay would have caused me to burn into my eye afar reserves. I spent the remainder of the flight. Watching my fuel gauges total iser and ground speed. While micromanaging the mixture I considered -sidered diverting to a closer airport but I had two young kids in the back who desperately needed to get home to their beds. I didn't even think about stopping for fuel because because it was too late for an F. B. O.. Fuel truck my home. Airport has no self service fuel. So I'd never filled up my own airplane before the thought lot of figuring that out for the first time that night with my family on board was not appealing. I asked nor cal approach about San san-carlos again. They told me it was a pretty serious accident and that it would be a while. I resigned myself to a diversion later. I learned that a Cessna one eighty five at ground. looped buckled a gear leg bent wing and had a strike thankfully. The pilot was fine. I was planning to shoot. GPS Three one approach into Palo Alto however when the aid is came in range. I learned that the. GPS three one approach was is not available at night that left the VR approach and the visual nor cal hates the VR approach. Because it interferes with the flow of airline arrivals apples into San Jose. They'll give it to you if you insist. But you can expect delays. I couldn't afford delays so I took the visual the runway lights lights in Palo Alto are dim so I usually identify the field by finding the brightly lit ramp area. I thought I saw it but that turned out to be a parking lot. I simply couldn't see the field in the dark. I probably Click the lights on six times. I had to use a combination of dead reckoning reckoning piloted and GPS to get myself more or less on final. Finally I found the field on three mile final after that the landing and and taxi were uneventful. I had seven point eight gallons remaining or forty nine minutes as I wrote in an Uber to pick up. The car are from San Carlos. A wave of fatigue hit me. I was completely wiped out on. I finally got home and put the kids to bed. I collapsed and was was asleep in minutes. The next day I thought through my decisions during the flight each risk I took was manageable by itself but together they produced an unacceptable outcome when risk factors come together they don't add up they multiply supply the high density altitude departure required light fuel load which put me at risk of fuel emergency the lack of F.. Fbi Oh services available at night reduced my refueling options and my kids in the back added considerable pressure to continue a joe to take off near sunset because of the high elevation. This nearly blinded me to terrain WANNA turn West into the sun. It also introduce reduced schedule pressure. Since I was unwilling to fly over mountainous terrain in the dark as a result I rushed my weather briefing and didn't take the time to consider sitter the effect on my fuel requirements. I also felt the need to turn toward home immediately after departure instead of circling in the truck valley four altitude after a long day chasing kids rafting in a stressful flight. I was exhausted as I began my approach. If I've been thinking clearly I could have declared minimum fuel and asked for the V. O R approach alternately. I could have canceled. I F R and flown direct to the field for a normal via for pattern instead I blindly blunder down visual approach until I was nearly on top of the field. I'll also be making a few changes to my personal minimums as a result of the sobering experience. I won't be doing anymore night. Flights with young kids on board award their bedtime needs produce. Get Home Itis in the extreme. Next time I go to Tahoe with the family all insist on a morning departure. Cheer to wake up fresh and depart in the morning sun in the future. I will plan to alternates when flying. I F R one for weather and one and for other diversions. My plan alternate was hayward which would have been a good choice if there had been low ceilings. However when I had to divert for non non weather reasons I chose Palo Alto because it was closer to home? I hadn't seen the NOTAMS for Palo Alto. which complicated my approach planning? Finally if I ever find myself near legal fuel minimums again. I won't hesitate to declare minimum fuel and get the help I I need. I didn't declare because it was my own bad decisions. That put me in this situation and I was worried about the repercussions by failing to declare declare I was valuing my certificate above the lives of my wife and kids. I won't make that mistake again. Never again will I expose does my family or myself to that level of risk. We made it home safely but it was too close for comfort. The never again. PODCAST is brought to you monthly by the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association. 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The Berlin Wall
"Welcome to bed time history before we get started a shout out to one of our listeners. Zola and her family. Zola listens to bedtime history every night and is a big Fan. Thanks for supporting our PODCAST. Go TO PATRIOTS DOT COM. That's PAT heart. Yohan Dot Com forward slash bedtime history feud like to become a donor and help keep the podcast going strong in one thousand nine hundred forty five. When Germany Lost World War Two and the allies invaded the country? The Russians came in from the east and kept the eastern part of Germany for themselves. The other allies like the United States and England wanted to keep the other part of Germany. Free so for many years. Germany was divided into two countries east and West Germany. At the time the Russians country also called the Soviet Union was communist and very aggressive. They wanted the German people to be under their control so they did. Many things. Take not let them be free but they started to notice that the East German people didn't like this so they started leaving their part of the country. The Soviet Union didn't like this either because many of their hard workers and smart workers were leaving the next thing they did change Germany. For many years the Russians started to build a wall at first they just told people they couldn't leave Germany then pretty soon. The wall grew taller and taller with more fences. More guards to keep the German people in before long. They were not able to leave. In some cases they had family members or friends on the other side of the wall but no matter what they tried they could not move across Germany to see them. The Wall is made up of barbed wire and thick cinderblocks. It became known as the Berlin Wall along the Berlin Wall. Were watchtowers guns and bombs in the ground to keep people from crossing. This was a very sad time for the people in East Germany and those in West Germany. Who had friends and family on the other side of the wall? The main part of this wall was in Berlin the capital of Germany and was twenty eight miles and extended through Berlin. Seventy five miles up into the rest of Germany during this time the United States and its allies were in what was called the Cold War with countries such as Russia also known as the Soviet Union. The Cold War meant that usually there were no battles going on. That would be a heated or hot war but this war was cold because the two countries were enemies but usually just did things like spy on each other and try to be more powerful or have more weapons than the other during this time the United States and Soviet Union made more and more nuclear weapons which were large bombs which could be very harmful to large groups of people. Both countries had many many spies in each other's countries. Trying to figure out what the other country would do next. The United States and the Soviet Union or Russia were very different mostly because of their governments. The United States was a democracy where people were free voted for their leaders who represented the people. They all sat choices over things like what they could do for work and what they could buy. While Russia was communist Communism means the government decides how much everyone makes and what most people do for job and they also don't let the people vote or say what they believe in what they want. The Cold War went on for many years and during this time Germany was still split in two one side free and one side controlled by the Soviet Union. During this time some people were able to escape East Germany and cross the Berlin Wall without being caught. They think around five thousand people were able to do this which seems like a big number but it was over thirty years and there were a lot of people in. East Germany so really not that many were able to make it across but Germans were very creative in the ways they found to get across the wall for example in one thousand nine hundred sixty three and acrobat named Horst Klein salk cable going from one side of the wall to the other and decided to climb across it. The cable was sixty feet in the air and he climbed across it hand over. Hand it over the heads of the guards far below. When he got to the other side he fell to the ground and was okay but he was free and made a very daring escape. Indeed in one thousand nine hundred. Three two friends decided to do something similar as Horst Klein but instead created a zip line from one side of the wall to the other they did this by climbing to the top of a tall building and firing an Arrow over the wall to someone waiting on the other side the other person real the line across an cable which they attached to a chimney on the other side then Michael and Hoeger. The two friends zipped across and over the wall using police pretty amazing right to other friends. Hans and gutter came up with the idea to make their own hot air balloon. They built it in secret out of old bed sheets and canvas which their wives sewed then at night the two couples and their four children floated the hot air balloon. Eight thousand feet in the air and sailed over the Berlin Wall to freedom in one thousand nine hundred sixty to eighty one year old man and a group of senior citizens or older people spent sixteen days building a one hundred and sixty foot long tunnel under the wall. Many of the people who escaped regards because even the German guards didn't want to be forced to stay in East Germany. There were many guards who are able to easily escape because they were wearing uniforms. Many people around the world including the United States against the wall and challenge the East German leaders to take it down. President John F. Kennedy made a famous speech in West Germany. Telling them to take down. The wall later President Ronald Reagan did the same popular. Rock Stars often held concerts near the wall to entertain the East German people. In Nineteen eighty-nine many countries across Europe. Who were communist wanted to become democracies where the people had more freedoms at this time people in Germany also wanted to be done with communism and become free November ninth nine thousand nine hundred nine in East Berlin. Huge crowds of people began gathering at the wall. The guards were worried but no one told them to hurt the crowds. Eventually the crowd just started breaking down the wall chopping holes in it until finally the guards started letting people through crowds on the free side also gathered welcome their fellow. Germans there was celebration and hugging. Is the German people reunited friends and families were able to see each other again. People all around the world were happy for the German people who are no longer divided today. All of Germany is now a free country in a democracy. You can still visit a portion of the Berlin Wall that is still standing but now it's just a place that tourists can visit to be reminded that once Germany was divided tonight. Spend a few minutes thinking about what it would be like to live in a place with less freedoms and then think about how fortunate you are to live in a free country where you can think what you want to think. Believe what you want to believe and more freedoms to do what you want to do in life. Not all people have these same privileges. Freedom is something that has to be fought for an appreciated or it can go away like anything else. It's important to understand history so you can know what you need to do to keep your own country a free place and learn from the mistakes of the past so we don't repeat them.
2019 Colorado Classic Stage 1
"The big question is can khloe <unk>. <hes> keep that jersey and she's got close to a minute on on the field and i asked her team manager i said can she hang non and nicholas said her power is very good right now. She lost some weight and is going to be hard to shake her. Ooh she has almost a minute hand. She might be able to stay in yellow. Focus is laser tight right now and she can suffer more than anyone. We haven't even seen what she's capable of yet. Hole that damn i got chills reading all right. Everybody welcome back to the movie podcast brought to you by patrol tequila. I'm lance armstrong. My co host j. b. Hager roughly a thousand miles away in austin texas. I'm up here at eight. Thousand feet in aspen colorado in are going to break down stage. One of the colorado classic which is is an event. That's been around for a couple years right j. b. This is but this is new and cool and i love the twist. There's there's no dudes. It's the all women's colorado classic seventy five thousand dollar prize purse <hes> amazing outstanding field. We're gonna get it in and breakdown stage ones action. It was really <hes> quite exciting. I must say <hes> fifty four miles or eighty seven kilometers steamboat to steamboat <hes> <hes> before we get into the action. Let's just do a little bit of business. Today's show is brought to you by amp human as it was most of a lot of the shows during <hes> last. July's tour de france rants amp full disclosure is a company that <hes> us over at next ventures have invested in. I don't know if that's a disclaimer or endorsement or disclosure an endorsement <hes> it is amazing when i first saw this product and i i heard about this cream the sodium bicarbonate cream. My first question was does it work. I'm gonna get to that in a second. Was i tell you about how it works right so as you know you go out and train you ride hard you race hard lactate levels elevate. That's ultimately ultimately what slows you down and stops you. Sodium bicarbonate is an electrolyte that buffers that so i'm thinking to myself okay wait. We can actually topically a buffer lactic acid like the evil endurance athletes <hes> yes. The answer is you can bunch of writers. Last summer's tour used it <hes> both teams in the super bowl all last super bowl used it both teams in the stanley cup used it absolutely works for our listeners twenty percents off go to amp human dot com for twenty percent off. That's amp human <hes> dot com and i just a so funny. I just got a text back from nickel kramer astros at any of the girls on on twenty twenty use the cream. She said almost all of them literally just now too funny today. Show also brought to you by the feed it so imagine if you are pro cyclist and you're riding in in colorado classic or the tour france orion classics or whatever it is and you want your swan your to hand you your bag the bag the everything that you want certain bars certain drink certain gel or chew and you wanna mix it up right. That's never you've never commercially been able to do that is just somebody's sitting at home. Well now you can. The feed comes along hundreds of brands that they haven't stocked three of my favorites human power dot and honey stinger by the way honey stinger is is based in steamboat springs. Today's race was start and finish <hes> but you can go in and basically not basically actually curate your own feedback so you just pick your drink your your jail. You're in it doesn't have to be the same thing you make it whatever you want. We've made our own feedback over here at the move. If you wanna the by our feedback it actually comes box spoiler alert. Go to the feed dot com slash the move twenty five percent off the feed dot com slash the move. If you don't like what what's in our feedback well go ahead and make your own feedback. I'm telling you i it's it is a revolutionary idea in it's about damn time that somebody j. I don't know why we didn't do this it. Just you know them it anyway but i you know what i love about it there. There you know the world is changing so fast with nutrition and the guys at the feeder curing the newest latest greatest in the classics that work right and there's just no way you to stay up on all that and you've got someone doing all that work for you and making recommendations yeah no well. Thanks them for <hes> for supporting the show supporting the women's women's only colorado classic. We're excited to talk about this the next four days and <hes> we've got roughly a women a hundred women from all over the world <hes> right out of the gate you know the i think a couple of things before we get into khloe diverts exceptional performance she is before i just i just get it out of the way she is clearly and obviously the patrol on but throw nita la la path renita. What is what is the female version of petron. I don't <music> now la tra anyways. She is not thrown out of the day clearly but before we get into that i think it's just a couple of things stand out to me it it it technically <hes> here's a race. That's you know today's senate believe start at sixty four hundred feet <hes> so the entire for the entire afford erases at altitude tomorrow actually gets up to about ninety five hundred you know that's for anybody a woman or a man that the the elevation is is always a factor that but the thing is i began getting into the race and looking at the athletes and watching the coverage and it was mentioned on the coverage on watched it here on altitude in colorado. Most of these women are not professional writers. They are professionals but they also have fulltime jobs. I mean how bad asked you have to be to have a fulltime job on nominee. Go to colorado for four days in race with the best of the best. I mean <hes> <hes> that that's i mean hats off credit. It's it's it is remarkable when you think about about men having a luxuries not the right word. It's it's all hard work but literally being able to dedicate your entire day around training and the women just don't have that luxury well. If i you know we read the story over here at news about the this lady. She's the oldest lady in the race and there's no no way no spring chickens. How old are you anyways. Fifty-one this fifty two you yeah edwige town forty eight and it's like going in and competing with the best of the best at fifty two years old. She jay read her quota. That was an amazing quote. She had lives yeah and she was asked about. You know the changes she's seen as a professional national cyclists and she got right out in front of it and said i'm not really a professional cyclists race with professional girls and i'm on a u._c._i. Team team but i have no salary and i also work as an engineer and computer systems like she's sending a message that interview. I love that like norway min- the professional means you make your living from it. It doesn't work that way for the women unfortunately and maybe this is a a major stepping stone in seeing that change yeah she goes to the computer the computer science firm that she'd engineers four in france and they're like okay you get two weeks a year vacation and collar counterparts like okay. I'm gonna go to corsica and and she's like. I'm gonna take a week and go to colorado on race race best woman in the world right. That's my vacation yeah. <hes> let's talk about the stage it was it was <hes> it was exciting exciting in a in a couple of facets as as we're starting to see more and more j. b. this addition <hes> of gravel into road stages and i just we talked about during the i love it. It's all the rage cycling. It's it is is the hot trendy segment in the industry <hes> and so. I think it's <hes> i think it's a good idea. I'm a supporter of it and <hes> unfortunately only for the four days. You're colorado classic. There was one period where they just couldn't get the live feed to work and they knew it going in full disclosure. They knew that this was going to be the section that they couldn't be broadcast and it was it was the gravel section through there but we learned enough through <hes> the colorado classic twitter feed and then just reading some them and the other news reports about <hes> about what what happened <hes> over the grabble with klay dagger going away on the climb getting the q. o._m. Taking a couple of girls with her and and then just bombing the downhill shutting the other girls in soloing to the finish for a forty five second solo victory <hes> it's lapa petroni anita move of the day <hes> you know my question and we're just you and me i mean full disclosure. We're just we're really trying to get beamed up on on women's cycling and you know i just i know so many people my neighbor pam alexander who's a big supporter in amazing cyclist herself nicholas kraemer over shower twenty twenty. Mari holden her director but just a a a bunch of cool stories your i. I'm long this stock. I i don't i. I think i remember when before the williams sisters tennis it was the women's tournaments it was just different and now they're equal and women's soccer is now equal. I mean what i think i. I think we can get there with this. You know this is a big. I was thinking about it quite a bit to about a step in getting there and you know the we have already sort of addressed. The problem is money. They can't make a living doing this and by dedicating an entire race to covering the women give given the whole stream is about them <hes> that allows the sponsors to be visible whereas in the past what you might see see thirty minutes of coverage of the women in you know in four or five hours of the men <hes> just you know the airtime they the equal airtime so the sponsors i can see it and it's going to be a slow evolution if the sponsors come then <hes> then the money comes and then more women can dedicate up the themselves to the sport and everything progresses right and that's that's been there in not an argument but has been a point that the women cycling communities made it is a they oftentimes feel like a plus one. We got a men's race and all a plus one like that's like you get a backstage. Pass some show and you're some celebrity and you gotta plus one and it's like you're you know the kid you grew up with right. It's not done just doesn't quite few right <hes> so they they they don't want to be plus ones right and so <hes> yeah and i don't blame them and i think the key is me here. We have <hes> a groundbreaking event. You've got seventy five thousand dollar prize purse. You've got an on event like any event in the world. Just has to sustain itself. It has to do it in one year is amazing doing it for ten is a thousand times more maisy easy answer. We you know hats off to kim garten his crew lucie de as all of them for for giving it a go and let's fingers cross that this catches on last thing i'll say an an and big shout out to vanity fair <hes> not the magazine but the sort of the conglomerate that owns a bunch of big great brands the north face fans smart wool mart will of course based in in steamboat springs <hes> a lot of really cool brands for stepping in and and supporting this race financially and <hes> yeah exciting exciting. It's gonna be exciting. Three days in. I guess the question for me is <hes> can khloe dagger good. She looked today because when the coverage finally when when they got out of that dead zone and they came back on there were fourteen girls behind her not sitting up turning through as she was put in time on them right i and i i had to go look and double check as i heard <hes> the coverage they said well. She's also in the young rider jersey and i went what wait whoa is. This is a name. I've heard for some time. We're like can't possibly be a she's twenty two years old well. She's yes she. She is but she's also a total bad ass and hasn't had her struggles are hasn't been without her struggles at a pretty serious are actually very serious concussion a couple all years ago that took. I relived that smell. You don't wanna watch that one too many times before special before going out on a bike <hes> <hes> but she's inches probably while we're at it. She's probably in the keel jersey in the this is just to give you an example. I mean we're we're saying and probably because this just goes to show you. I mean we're if this was the tour we would have had all of these results from first to last place within fifteen minutes. That's you know if you went on the internet even now. The state has been done for a couple of hours. It's still top ten. You know no classification so it's just it's just an evolution right in in their in their in the process of building one thing i read that was cool and i i've never heard of this. I don't know why people didn't think of this before but on some of these circuit races where they're going to have problems or bonuses on some of the laps they're going to let the race fan at home crowd source prize money or increase crease in prize money or increase in premiums through this text. They're calling a text to donate so that'll elevate the prize money <hes> for that premium or whatever the premiums of coarsened coarsened intermediate sprint slash prize slash cash prize <hes> and so they'll they'll increase the prize money but also donate to local charities. I mean that's that's just the kind of stuff it's like. That's like the feed. So why don't we what when we think of that you know and and also giving this a lot more thought that the timing is really good too because you know a a stream people are so comfortable now with watching stream connecting their t._v. To stream. I mean we're in this new era of <hes> being able to cover sports did they couldn't get on television right and so that opens up a whole new audience to watch to watch women's cycling and races that did doc we didn't get on t._v. For for the men as well <hes> it's just it's just really really good timing to <hes> take technology like i heard him. I saw actually i didn't hear him. I saw it on their twitter feed. They were talking about the cellular. Bonding technology now is like a his because that's stuff that we we researched to find out how to do coverage to our members from aspen in the mountains with with challenges right <hes> and so they're using that same kind of technology that we use to cover a race. It's it's just mind blowing. How many changes are happening happening right now. It takes the <hes>. The airplane at altitude and weather out of the equation takes the call that the relay the motor ota relays. I it just makes it work in a different way. In <hes> that's helping cover at these high altitudes well and but that doesn't even i mean that just shows as they were as i was watching the altitude channel here on on my cable system. You could see as they were going in and out. There was the logo for live you which is of course what you just said what we use to broadcast live for the members during the tour for for other stuff that we do i mean you can i've had this conversation with todd saito or an epic rides who who puts on some of the best multiday events <hes> and just festivals in in the industry of how he can broadcast the pro races and i said live live you the tri caster. I mean the bonding whatever the bundling on whatever you call you call it. I just ponding that too. Yes that <hes> <hes> i mean you could you could televise your your local kids. <hes> a bike ride around the block. I mean you can do anything yeah. It's phenomenal. Hey one of the things that <hes> i thought was phenomenal was so arguably. The biggest favourite here is katie hall who it appears rides for it doesn't appear to her to her main trade team is not here so she came to the race with the national team so she's riding the stars and stripes which is in in and of itself is not really a big deal however her entire the entire rest of the team's her supporting crew is made up of all collegiate riders so so all girls that that go that are in college that compete collegiately and i just think for them to be on this stage with writer katie hauled. Ah must be what what a what a trip man. That's the would just be so cool. You know you bring up <hes> a- another interesting point we were talking about these women having to work fulltime jobs to support themselves selves in men's racing going to college. Judge is chew prime years so the men don't rarely opt to do it right. There were just prime prime years to be some kind of junior in your program and development program <hes> in for women. That's a different thing. We're not only talking about having to work to support themselves with being in school and competing at this this level yeah no. I mean the most most guys have to heck. I was i was in that <hes> in that position but you know at at that age at eighteen nineteen years old you gotta make the decision to to head on over to europe or to join the national team and <hes> certainly <hes> maybe not being europe the travel enough that that going versity is just not is not an option right and so it it cool for them. I mean i'm sure they're just so excited added to be on this <hes> the stage with with a bunch of great female racers <hes>. Let's talk about tomorrow. We'll talk about tomorrow's <hes> tomorrow. I'm just open it it up looking at stage two <hes> avon over an avon. I heard on the coverage about an hour and a half drive from steamboats. They'll drive over <hes> hang out there tomorrow night. <hes> before we talk about tomorrow's action it should also be known that it's august twenty third okay and that should also be known as otherwise known as johan bruyneel birthday <hes>. I didn't know that our man turn it. God what dizzy ternan. I don't even know how old is he. He's not that old. He's older than us but tamara happy birthday on i don't. I don't know if you're listening but if you are happy birthday brother we love and we're looking forward. Just sneak peek. We're looking forward to y'all coverage d._j. Bs j b squared. I will sit in about half. The time for the tour of spain is also going to start this weekend but the really cool thing is that johann johanna who's absolutely fluent in spanish for our our spanish speaking listeners <hes> here you go. We are also going to do a show in spanish so it's going to be johann bruyneel an r._o. Teammate one of the loveliest guys around <hes> the columbian victor hugo aka l. You know what it is now. I doubt as a shark don't danton danton danton danton and four fifty four. She is old enough. Hey speaking of sharks they'll tip. It owns most honest. Look at tomorrow's are you. I don't know if you can pull hold up. Tomorrow's profile so funny actually looks like a shark right if you look at stage two of the women's colorado classic presented by the f. corporation fifty mayeso's <music> all in avon. It looks like a shark. That's so appropriate that we were talking about <hes> anyhow. The question is in a starting at again. Altitudes is an issue where we started seventy five hundred up to almost ninety five hundred the big question is can khloe <unk>. Keep that jersey. She's got close to a minute on on the field and i asked her team manager. I said can she hang on and nicholas said her power is very good right now. She lost some weight in is going to be hard to shake her. Ooh she has almost a minute and hand. She might be able to stay in yellow. Her focus is laser tight right now and she can suffer more than anyone one. We haven't even seen what she's capable of yet whole damn. I got chills reading that so that's the the question right. You're not going to see because i'll i'll things seem to say that katie hall is the one to mark and the one to to to to beat that you know that that she can hang well. You have a climb. It's a little deceiving. If you look at an honest profile on any profile on any of the sites you can get to it looks looks extremely long extremely hard extremely high <hes> it's in in fact it is not that bad. I mean it's it's it's still <hes> goes uphill pretty consistently but so the question is can she maintain that power output for twenty minutes right and so <hes> that's what they do the race so we can all go find out and see what happens but i if i'm a betting man <hes> i think she does. I think she does and a in the other thing too. Is that is is that she technically is very good. You know she comes from a track background so even if a girl like her say give up. Let them get thirty seconds. It's over the top. You just have to think that that her fear factor going down and her technical skills going down which is that much better than <hes> some of the other gal's and so that's the question you know but <hes> right now i mean clearly the message is clear from nikola that that's the goal for team. Show where twenty twenty you know win win. The race was going on today. You brought up another very very good point. We've already talked about some of the differences between the opportunities for the men and women one is career. Career haven't work to support themselves to do this or being in college. Which is another thing we talked about. You brought up another really good one today and that's the altitude factor where the men would have the convenience or the accessibility to spend time at altitude before or a race and if you have a great time job i i can't imagine coming into these high altitude places in and and having the wherewithal without any sort of adjustment yeah well look. I think yes obviously having a fulltime job or being a college. <hes> is it prohibits you from getting there too early but i mean i think the reality is that that to go to colorado in august for a week to prepare. I mean you can just start doing the line items on your spreadsheet on on your trip budget. I mean it's it's the flights to call. I can tell you what it costs to fly to aspen. You know it's it's not cheap and then to stay in hotel not cheap to eat. Nothing's cheap in colorado in august spoiler alert and so the the the budgets just aren't there which is again to the point that that these gals and their teams and team managers and their fans are making right <hes> and so so. It's really those things right if you're at work if you're at school or you just don't have the budget you kinda just have to show up the day before our our two days before four which is yeah. How'd you like to be up at nine thousand five hundred feet tomorrow and you've been in colorado for three days. No thanks yeah i mean is as someone who goes back and forth and in in dual cities like that austin no altitude <hes> hilly and punchy but no altitude food and then we got we got five hundred feet five hundred now and then you go into aspen like maybe you can shed some light on for someone who doesn't get to go into into the mountains and ride. I mean if you spent months in austin and then you go back to eight thousand feet in aspen. What is a real. You'll adjustment time before you go okay. I'm feeling normal. Listen <hes> most physiologists exercise physiologists would tell you just as a basic rule of f-bomb of course some folks are better than others <hes> but a basic rule of thumb to give yourself not to be at peak performance but just to be at a place where you you can begin to start to train at an elevated level. They like to say that. It's one day per thousand feet so if you were going to go to denver at five thousand those feet you'd say to yourself. I need five days of chill time. Slow time and then i can get into it. If you come to aspen eight thousand five hundred eight days and tomorrow stage. We're gonna get up over ninety. Five hundred you know to be even an average state. You need nine and a half days and so that's that's a lot of time that's a lot of commitment and and a lot of money and and you just can't not i don't care what kind of freak you are. You cannot do it on a day or two now. It makes me wonder if you know after today's today. Some of these writers are just feeling sick and dizzy and trying to hydrate and wondering what the heck's going on with their system right now. I don't know if you were just riffing right there but that's another great point. I mean it's also well documented and well known that hydration at elevation is a major major factor. This is we become <hes> way more dehydrated at altitude than we do at sea level and so that's you just hit on it. I mean that those are all just little things like you've got. That's not anything that's a budget issue or time issue but it's certainly a a a mental issue. You got to remind yourself okay. I'm i'm at eight thousand feet and hydration and dehydration is a real factor and of course that being one of the number one determining factors for performance boy way you gotta stay on top of that because that's the man with a ham you get hydrated over the course of a couple of days for these gals. The woman with the hammer will become yeah yeah well. <hes> you know this was an exciting first day. Chloe dyer was impressive holding off but how how many people i mean every team represented holding that off. That's going to be a fun story to watch. <hes> katie hall is the the marked person who <hes> <hes> seems to be the favourite with their climbing ability. That's going to be fun to watch <hes>. I didn't know until you shared with me that katy surrounded by collegiate riders. I'd i'd i'd love story. I'm cheering for the fifty. Two year old almost sold people out there. We got at least get a stage win for the fifty two two year old russian. Wouldn't that be something man. I well. I started to say something but i didn't. I won't 'cause i can't that's all good. Hey jay thanks root for <hes> chicken in here today and that thanks to everybody for listening and lastly <hes> congrats to to ken and lucy and everybody over there at the colorado classic for for having a successful day. One and fingers crossed that this is something that <hes> we we can all keep rolling yeah. I think the one of the best things people can do if you're <hes> tuning into the show one. We appreciate it <hes>. It's it's something different for us says well but if you're if you like this and you want to be supportive of women's bike racing i think one of the best things you could do is share this on your show. Social social share the life feed your remind people you know how people's people's attention are pulled in so many different directions and just you know before the race is starting starting sending out the socials and reminding people to tune in and give this support especially on the heels of <hes>. I can't help but think about this this past summer with with women's soccer and this momentum to treat women equally pay them gently <hes> the the timing is is fantastic and and you know it if you're not trying to share the love and support of it more than you're kind of part of the problem too in its moments it's to do a little known fact j. B. is the father of raleigh hager. Who's one of the best female wake when they call. Ordway wakes her for in the world worldly. She's won the world championships before i mean shit she'll mess around and so this man isn't just paying lip service like he truly cares and hers about women's board do and in her sport she was very fortunate. <hes> they pay equal to the man they do everything equally across the board and have have since it began <hes> relatively new sport but they made that decision early on of course we're paying <hes> women the same amount of money yeah yeah a hundred percent and then i guess last thing <hes> if you're in avon tomorrow go on out like just stand get out there on the roads i get your cowbell guichard jud umbrella because the sun will be out or golden on saturday denver on sunday. Come out and support these great athletes at <hes> they would love it. They love it so we'll check in with y'all tomorrow talking about stage two and it's going to be an exciting one. Thanks for tuning in.
Iran must answer questions about Ukraine Airlines plane crash; PLUS Harry & Meghan are disrupters
"Released at four. PM Every Weekday lead it brings you the best of the Evening Standard's news commentary and analysis subscribed to make sure you don't miss an episode from the Evening Standard in in London. This is silly aged. Hi I'm David Malls. Linda international pressure is bearing down on Iran accused of shooting down a passenger plane with one one hundred and seventy six lives lost already appears to be signs of a possible cover up with debris from the plane having already been bulldozed away from the crash crash site. Our deputy political editor Nicholas sessile on the questions tonight refuses to answer also the Sussex's see themselves as young and challenges. Jonathan Prince speaks to the leader as details. Begin to emerge of Harry and Megan's future plans. They want to be disruptors. The taken from the Evening Standard's editorial column. This is the leader for the whole thing. Pick up the newspaper or head to stand a CODA. UK slash comment went in a moment. Why Iran must tell the truth about the plane crash? That looks like a tragic mistake. So Iran ten thirty at night on Wednesday an explosion was heard over theron. Aw Out of breath. Rescuers raced to the site where the passenger plane had come down but the only found flames. None of the one hundred and seventy six on board survived. We have intelligence allegiance from multiple sources including our allies and our own intelligence. The evidence indicates that the plane was shot down down by an Iranian surface to air missile. Canadian President Justin Trudeau addressing a country. That lost sixty three of its citizens. Lay the blame at Iran the that night at attack to US bases in Iraq. I have my suspicions but somebody could have made a mistake on the other side towns. Denying it editorial column doesn't believe them so far. The response of the Iranian regime has been lamentable with one official claiming bizarrely that scientifically. It's impossible for a missile to have down the plane. To begin. It should on Sakib questions including whether any anti aircraft missiles were fired. Hi It by its forces at the time of the crash to Ron must also allow independent analysis of the plane's black box and ensure the crash site is preserved served not purged of evidence as seems to be happening full access with safe passage must also be given to international investigators to let them them access the evidence independently. Even if what's happened was an error caused by an overly jumpy response to the risk of another. US strike than Iran will still. It'll be guilty of reckless killing. The families will never get that loved ones back. Iran must tell the truth now the Evening Standard's deputy happy belittle editor Nicholas. SASSA was the first John Lewis to report a link between the crash on the Iranian military. He's in our Westminster Office and Nick. What evidence is there that Iran Iran intentionally or note is behind this? Well there is a growing body of evidence pushing towards Ukraine International Ellen flight. PS seventy five to having been hit by missile at around eight thousand feet. Having taken off from Tehran International Airport firstly they are images on social media reportedly of a part of a Russian-made Anti-aircraft tour missile. which is said to be found near the crash? Seen secondly the reports from the US that intelligence satellites detected infrared blips of two missile launches followed followed by another blip of a mid-air explosion. The pilots or two did not have time to make a mayday call which suggests what hit. The plane was sudden and catastrophic. Why do people like Canadian present Justin Trudeau and US president? Donald Trump wider leaving open to possibly being a mistake. What do we think happened will certainly Boris? Johnson says well he said this may well have been unintentional and it does seem to. It has been an accident because there's no obvious motive for tear onto down a plane with dozens of his own nationals on board one theory which is gaining traction region is that the Iranian military were on edge very nervous expecting reprisals after launching a series of missile strikes at Iraqi basis housing. US troops now security expert. Professor Antinuclear Buckingham University told the standard. My feeling is that this was an accident because it rains were so nervous of A. US attack the must be concerns that so many days after the accident now evidence this is not going to be there. Yes that is the case in. That's growing today. Iran is strongly denied. A MESABA down the plane they're dismissing the claims as psychological warfare and that it was scientifically impossible appears to be signs of a possible coverup with debris from the plane. Having already been bulldozed away from the crash site according to some reports the authorities also to say that some of the memory from the black boxes on the plane has has been lost and that further aroused suspicions are there any signs around is going to cooperate with international investigators at the moment mixed signals coming out to about whether they the rains will allow allow a proper investigation into the crash. State TV is reporting that US. Canadian and French representatives will be flying to the Iranian capital for for meetings about an Iranian leading quarry. But it's far from clear whether this would meet the demands of Britain and other country for a independent independent full and transparent inquiry. It's also important to remember that the Iranian regime is fragmented with different powerbases our basis. So you've got hard liners in the Revolutionary Guard more moderate senior figures in the foreign ministry. So there's no guarantee that they'll be unified a unified uniformed response nor drape kits. WHO's an expert in this field as former UK national security advisor visor and former top manager at the Foreign Office? He's explained. The Iran faces a difficult and swift choice. Either to allow a proper cooperative air safety investigation which is likely to be treated different from other areas of confrontation with the West or to go for cover up and tried right to hide evidence and at the moment the world is really watching next. Whatever you feel about the way Harry and Meghan made the declaration declaration? It has now provoked debates and boy out into the open. Some issues about the future of the royal family that were going to have to be addressed. Sooner or later Jonathan Prince Harry Megan's plans to innovate the royal family. As the Evening Standard revealed building a global exclusive Harry and Meghan quitting the royal family without a plan but the to have an idea from page says they see themselves as disrupters forging urging a new model for what it means to be a royal in the twenty first century. Well Jonathon friends one of the journalists working on the story. Jonathan disruptor. What does that mean well? I suppose it's an analogy to what's been going on in in the corporate world away you've had Huge established companies and corporations have found themselves challenged by upstart tech companies. And I think this is what we understand how the Sussex's succes see themselves as young and a millennial challenges to a very long established institution That maybe hasn't adapted full the twenty first century. So I wonder how that's GonNa go down at Buckingham Palace and we know that Meghan has has jetted off to Canada to be without she and she's left kind of Harry to kind of take the flat Greeley from the rest of the family. Hasn't she. I wonder what those conversations are going to be like. Oh it's I mean it's going to be so it would be so fascinating to be an air on on the conference calls are going on between Sandringham from cottage Highgrove Buckingham Palace at the Monet's great sort of four way Royal Conference calls if only we could get a line into those but these are very very high stakes high level discussions Russians about the future of the royal family. I think whatever you feel about the way Harry and Meghan made their declaration. It has now provoked to the debates and blow out into the open some issues about the future of the royal family that's Were going to have to be addressed sooner or later because we know that Prince Charles wants a more streamlined royal family based on the pure line of succession. But where does that leave the broader all family And their future role unhurried Meghan of not brought up very much focus and were told that the Queen has oded royal staff to get this figured I within the next few days it. It must be frantic inside there right. Yes I mean. The Queen obviously appreciates the the damage that the the headlines of the last couple of days in the next few days of doing it needs a quick fix. There's all sorts of incredibly complicated issues assault not least on on the funding side of it And how Harry and Meghan might be able to support themselves financially and what that means for commercializing the royal brand or voiding commercializing analyzing the role brandon and allow really really tricky issues the royal protection on both sides of Atlantic Sort of thing but it's got to be addressed and I think the queen pain had similar and I talking about trying to find solutions in days rather than weeks. Well it's GonNa be really interesting is when we've got a few days with no public appearances as I understand it from premature anyone in the royal family and I think it's next week. Harry has to or is scheduled to come back and face the public after all this. That's GonNa be an interesting so interesting. The the big one in his story next week is the literal for the rugby league. While Cup competitions men's women's ends and wheelchair which is due to take place at Buckingham Palace on Thursday and we'll be live streamed on the royal family social media last last kind of be one of the more interesting sporting draws of Recent Times in the Queen isn't at the palace because she stays insanity until early February abry but He will be there in a very public role of performing his a very typical royal juicy. And it'll be his first first public appearance since all this kicked off you can read more on that story in the evening. Standard or online at standard dot coded UK. And that's SALITA. We'll be back on Monday at four PM with more news analysis and country from the Evening Standard Wild beating newsroom. Join US again.
Giving Thanks in Aguas Calientes
"Turn to look only parts of structures remained blocks of buildings businesses and tales were gone swift right off their foundations and into the river below by ungodly wave of mud seemed like a painting Ranil astray Shen because it couldn't possibly be real. With me. Paradox. Make it snappy. Passengers we need another volunteer. Prepare. Hello and welcome to come fly with me and other travel mischief. I'm John lamb eighties. And these are my personal travel stories of adventure, mayhem foolishness and swinging through the jungle of life. This is a story about disaster, but also recovery and thanks. We were just happy to make it out of that place alive. So of course, we celebrated by edict big fist of meal straight from the earth. Giving. Thanks. I was cut intas. I was call you days as Milton touting Peru. It's also Spanish for water, which was appropriate as that was exactly where I found myself at the moment. It was late and your film crew. Some fifty was tired and hungry. I was tired hungry and worried the local fixer who had promised me dozens of rooms had discipline Acedo. Translation, please vanished. It had been a long winding hall up the mountain from the sacred valley to this high altitude village, the stopping of point just before the world famous runes much, peach you that was the next day's destination for our travel documentary while the crew spilled from the bus talking of dinner in sleep. I checked the hotel for the fixer in our rooms. They're the bad news as the hotel clerk, and I traded broken Spanish for broken English. There was no fixer. No rooms, no vacancy Mia. I turn back to the crew pulling their gear and suitcases off the bust chatting laughing looking forward to some downtime man that awful moment when you know, you have to ruin everything for everyone. How to do it had it conveyed disappointment? And yet some hope should I hang my head as they walked back drop, my shoulders now too militaristic, just a matter of fact livery with light notes expecting optimism. It will all be fine. I told them everyone looked at me in stunned silence for far too long. Maybe they were expecting a punchline or an easy fix. But there were no fixes at eight thousand feet on dark Peruvian mountain. The first to speak was one of our cameramen. I quit he spent out to know in particular. But really it may so quit. Our director smacked back. I like the directors aplomb, plus the logistics side, we had two other cameramen and the director could shoot as well. So good luck. Getting back down the mountain in the middle of Peru to get a flight back to Lima to get a flight back to the states. Yeah. Go quit. The cameraman instinctively knew all this too and retreated into a well-worn silk. Angela one of our crew members recalls that special moment distinctly remember getting off that bus. And then realizing we have nowhere to stay. And that just sense of panic that again, it was coupled with that altitude sickness it just felt like stowe's completely exhausting emotionally draining day. Before anyone else that a chance to throw a bomb addressed the crew letting them know I was hitting the streets of Kalyan, tastes and would absolutely find them rooms. No one would be sleeping on the bus. So I headed out knitting them to mumble and powders production crews, sometimes do I couldn't really blame them. I was angry as well. It had been a long day shooting. Ancient Inca villages writing the Rapids of the rubab river. And then the long trip up the mountains, couldn't we just get a shower a bite to eat but life is a relative measure of one Cindy's enlist than twelve hours time. Petty complaints would seem an indulgence we would still be alive for others sleeping, just yards down the street that would no longer be. So. Of course, I know this yet so fates decide where rooms would be as trudge the narrow pathways every little hotel was booked if you ever go too much when I definitely recommend. You do. Visit these spectacular in Corroon 's this is where you will probably stay. I also recommend you make Vance through measure vacations with a reputable f it is the evening to on a slight chill. My luck began to change. I was enquiring at the smallest and seediest of hostelries found a few rooms at one and then another and another it was getting late. And there were only so many can seize sue people would have to double and even triple up something they were not used to. But when he told everyone about the new rooming situation, they were just happy to finally have a bed. Do you really believe that? Of course, they weren't happy. They're pissed a film crew on an expense paid trip through Peru. Who wouldn't be outraged? Do we ever fully appreciate that? We are the lucky ones official first world answer. No anyway to cut through the complaints. I announced we'd meet for dinner in an hour. We would have wine. Stop your whining. We were at world famous much UP chew for God's sakes. Truthfully. Some of the crew like Randy were incredibly supportive. You know, we do our job. And then we expect things to fall into place. Like, okay, let's eat. We're done the shoot. Let's go to bed and gets sleep. So we can get up and counted tomorrow. So we cleaned up and had wine and Pecos hours, the national cocktail appro- plus green beer named for Cousteau the region's colonial city. These local spirits seem to restore our own once more tomorrow our show, it take us further up the mountain to explore much UP chew the fifteenth century in Qasidi a world heritage site. Now that was something to dream about tonight. The rooms really were awful not just cramped. We were stuff in three or more. But creepy to something about the place built unsettling. Everything seemed off since we arrived at days it felt like some strange in Khudzha going on. I'd barely fallen asleep. When I start to have consciousness by the rattle of the loudest air conditioner. I have heard the thing just roared above us even stranger amused in my dreamy state, the room was still hide and muggy. And then the dogs through the thick white noise of the air conditioning. I heard dogs barking into the night it wouldn't stop arguing at the air conditioner just mindlessly barking until the racket of it all numb to be back to sleep. A single dog barked. That's how I woke it on to the sounds of a single dog whimpering and barking is if it was expecting, a reply all the other noise ceased. Out of bed to peer through the rooms one high window hadn't seen the street below in daylight. So at first I wasn't alarmed by the river of mud that now filled it, but how could that be? We'd walk these streets the previous evening, I quickly got dressed as the other wakened one commented. You hear that rainless night? I hadn't that over the constant or of the air conditioning. Oh that wasn't there conditioning. Was it just the beating of the rain on the hotel's tin roof right down the street. We took in the muddy landscape and nearby. River had gotten fat and high with fast running water. Yes. It had rained ATar int- and the debris was everywhere. TV's furniture clothing, just piles of possession stolen by the thick batter of sludge. What had happened? The far reaches of the street quickly supplied an answer, we turn to look only parts of structures remained blocks of buildings. Businesses and hotels were gone swift right off their foundations and into the river below by ungodly wave of mud seem like a painting illustration because it couldn't possibly be real. Until the next day that we realized that it caused a lot of problems with the river coming up. So I really taken out a lot of structures and people and everything else is pretty traumatic. All that was left was empty silent. Space say for the barking dog looking for its family. We turn to each other to make sure we were seeing the same thing we had. But then a new dark thought where are the others for the panic breath? I took off retracing steps from the previous evening where those other hotels. I'd only seen the town at night and daylight I was disoriented plus basic layout had just been horribly altered. I ran down the street. And of course, nothing looked as it should how could it so train tracks ripped from their foundation. Pointing to the sky twisted about like pipe cleaners. The force of the mountain collapsing down had been primal and massive locals interests stood there. Also, tried to make sense of it. I ran toward them searching for my crew, not a one, but an alleyway ahead. Look, suddenly familiar, I turn. Nd in. There was one of our hotels hole and untouched going inside blessedly found more of the crew they'd seen the wreckage in were pale and sobbing, but everyone who supposed to be there was there. Okay. One more group to go. And the last hotel was nearby. I took off down the street and guessed correctly. This was the place I found last night and it had been a godsend housing. My last seven this was the youngest group assistance runners interns. Thankfully, I found them all safe and alive still asleep in their beds young innocent. And luckily clueless. Waking up in the morning, and then all that frustration. We felt and they before this is nothing that was nothing. I can't even believe we were so exhausted and upset about what had happened given. You know, what people were experiencing and the lives that were so dramatically affected. We we just had a tough day. We did what little we could to help in the muddy remains. We had set alight phone and used it for communication to the world below the road. And rail lines were gone. Everyone would have to be choppered off the mountain also recorded the devastation around us as a record of the tragedy. Sobering reminder of our own good fortune. But some townsfolk for missing later. We would learn they were gone. Down the mountain in the sacred valley. Joined some locals for punch Monka an ancient Inca cooking ritual. Putt. You're Monka means earth oven in Ketchaoua the indigenous language, Peru potatoes chicken, yucca, corn, tamales and more reloaded into the stone lined oven said in the ground and baked for several hours. What comes out is a beautiful smokey feast. But a monkey is more than just an ingenious oven does a ritual celebration of life as we loaded our plates with the rich meal our hosts explain that placing food into the ground is a sign of respect for the earth as I sat there gorging myself. I savored that respect the earth provided us with a sumptuous banquet and had been kind enough to spare us. So you see how lucky I felt even in the midst of disaster there is still much to put in the plus column. Our lives our futures. More opportunities to feast to explore more opportunities to wash away the mud. I would like to think we were a bit more humbled about our place on this mountain. We certainly more thankful. Macleod? Thank you through possioble Husson TV kitchen, what an too many rule did a, publicity, the key and level loco here outstanding music, and thanks to Angela Randy. And all of you for joining us on a wet Peruvian mountainside. This is come fly with me and other travel mischief convince us complied net for more shows and links to your favorite podcasting app. We've got stories from Jamaica and Mexico coming up. Plus, a holiday story sense. Scotland see the traveling mischief never stops. I'm joined Lapid. He's a guy who can't be thankful enough. Wishing you a safe and bountiful thanksgiving.
The Flu[ke] Game: Breaking down Michael Jordan's Illest Performance
"Michael tried hits. The second free throw does not Jordan sick. And everything fights for the rebound out to pippen pip to might Michael Michael Michael. Can't you see? Sometimes you threes just hypnotize me to pay remakes medicine. All right just employed as Michael Jordan was to the NBA when he was scoring touch medicine. Remixed medicine remix. Where like many Michael Jordan fans we've been locked into. Espn's recent ten part documentary highlighting Jay's career the last dance if you haven't started it yet I can't recommended enough being in ninety s kid growing up in the suburbs of Chicago meant waking up most days to hearing about the history that Mike was making downtown so I really appreciated the nostalgia and reliving the timeline of the bulls dynasty the series also included a bunch of unseen footage that offer new insight into the evolution of the teams interpersonal relationships and provided further evidence of Jordan's unrelenting will to overcome all adds to win any competition last weekend. Espn aired the last two episodes of the Docu series and during episode nine. They had to put an end to longtime speculation surrounding Jordan's health during game. Five of the nine hundred ninety seven. Nba Finals Against the Utah. Jazz on that night twenty three years ago. Mj The immune system and two of hall of Famers to swing in ninety eighty. Eight win was suffering from some type of gastrointestinal illness. We don't know for sure what illness he was fighting. And the only facts. We have our that. He missed breakfast. That he scheduled with Scottie. Pippen and Ron Harper. The morning of the game. He missed the team. Shoot around prior to the game arrived at the Delta Center in Salt Lake City just after five PM and spent pre-game an darkroom vomiting before telling coach Phil Jackson. He's ready to play the story of Jordan's quote unquote flew. Game actually started the night before in Park City Hotel. Here's a clip of Jay and his trainer. Tim Grover explaining what WENT DOWN IN UTAH. So George Macedo the couple of security guys the night before the game. We were on Michael's room hanging out but it's like ten ten thirty eight hungry. No Room Service Michael. Gets HUNGRY ARE SO? We'll call all these different places. George I looking rot. Be Find One pizza place open so you ordered a pizza and the pizza came. There was four five guys outside the door. Five guys delivering want pizza. It's very rarely you get five delivery guys from the piece of your pizza. They're all trying to look in. And you know by news mark so I take the pizza I pay them and I put this pizza down. I got a bad feeling about this. Pizza Alabama's nobody elites up about two thirty throwing over the last two decades. A Lotta new theories have popped up about what Jordan was going through. During that game food poisoning was just one of them. Jalen rose was record suggesting Mike may have been hung over former teammate. Steve Kerr proposed that the culprit may have an altitude sickness as they were staying in Park City. Which is seven thousand feet above sea level so we were staying in Park City. Yeah I'll never forget we. Before the series started Phil Jackson put it up to the players. You can either stay a lousy hotel downtown because all the main hotels are booked or we can go stay in this resort in park city. When it's forty five minutes away on the bus and it's elevated and your Michael wanted to stay downtown. Mostly guys wanted to stay park city and so we ended up staying in Park City. He got sick and I think it was have had to do the altitude. In the morning of that game we went. We had a shoot around at a high school in Park City. He was getting fee like he was on a mess. And Sam Smith wasn't even sure Jordan was sick personally. I don't know that I'm completely sold. On the story of Michael being the only one to order and eat an entire pizza after delivered by five people at two. Am but in the spirit of our show and ninety s nostalgia thought it'd be interesting to take a closer look at Jordan sick game and explore some of the medical terms diagnoses. We've heard in the conversation surrounding it. Conditions that I've heard most commonly associated with that Jordan performance our stomach flu and food poisoning stomach. Flu is a bit of a misnomer. It's really not related to influenza. But more of a common term referring to viral gastroenteritis it's an inflammation of the stomach and intestines causing most frequently by norovirus. Which alone causes up to twenty one million cases of gastroenteritis in the US each year the most common way to contract virus like this is from direct contact with someone that's already infected and the symptoms include stomach. Cramps fatigue nausea vomiting diarrhea. Fever chills muscle aches and headaches in the United States. These infections usually occur between October and April and the other hand food poisoning. Also called foodborne. Illness is caused by eating food contaminated with bacteria such a staph aureus Salmonella e-coli viruses again. You see norovirus. At the top of the list or parasites it presents with a lot of the same stuff that the stomach flu can cause cramping fatigue nausea vomiting diarrhea but in severe cases it can also produce blood in the stool vomit shocked or even loss of consciousness now. Most forms of food poisoning aren't fatal. But there are a couple of bad ones. Those caused by Salmonella Listeria and talks. Oh plasma another borne illness botulism can cause pretty devastating effects to the nervous system and could also result in death with botulism. You'll see symptoms like blurred vision drooping eyelids slurred speech or other neuromuscular symptoms common foods associated with Foodborne. Illness include contaminated or undercooked. Meat Ron undercooked unpasteurized cheeses. Such as Brie and fed-up Roth. Fish or officers and undercooked rice. One big point of differentiation between stomach. Flu and Foodborne. Illness is the timeline of their presentations. Viral Gastroenteritis can cause these symptoms twenty four to forty eight hours after exposure but can stick around for up to ten days whereas symptoms due to food. Poisoning can appear as early as two hours after eating. A shady pizza getting exposed can also take days even weeks to show symptoms of food borne. Illness tend to resolve within a day or two. Which could explain. Why am Joe is able to pull up and drop thirty nine points a game six just two days later in Chicago all right? A quick word on treatment dehydration is a huge complication associated with acute gastrointestinal conditions because persistent vomiting and diarrhea can cause you to lose a whole lot of water really quickly and if you add to this the intensity of playing a professional basketball game and the additional loss of fluids from sweating. It's a wonder I'm Jay. Didn't pass out in both the stomach. Flu and foodborne illness. It's very important to replace all the loss fluids and electrolytes such as sodium potassium and calcium by making sure to drink. Plenty of water with sports drinks like Gatorade pedialyte or even coconut water. Intravenous or Ivy. Rehydration is the process by which sterile water solutions containing small amounts of salt or sugar are injected into the body through a tube attached to a needle which is inserted into a vein. This method of hydration is more rapid than oral rehydration. And it's likely why Jordan was hooked up to an IV on Game Day another way. These two conditions are different. Is that in the case of severe bacterial food poisoning. Doctors may also prescribe an antibiotic to help fight the bacteria and the other hand. Antibiotics would not help intriguing stomach flu because antibiotics work to treat bacterial infections rather than viral. There were also rumors that Jordan may have been fighting a hangover during the game. It's not a secret of the Bulls had flown to Vegas when on the road for series and Utah in the past so to me. It's not completely crazy. We know that alcohols diuretic meaning that inhibits a hormone that prevents you from peeing causing you to pay more than usual ultimately flushing more liquid out of your body. Then you can take in after a big night out. You're likely dehydrated and probably need to reopen again and electrolyte replacement. Drink if you're also throwing up can't hold much down and not ready for tip off by seven o'clock anti nausea medication and IB rehydration might be another thing to consider is that alcohol affects normal physiology by causing increased levels of Creatine kinase and lactate in the blood which may cause increased muscle. Soreness in fact if you run while hung over your at a higher risk for fatigue cramps and muscle strains Jordan chose to play hungover that night he may have put himself at greater risk of suffering a series changing injury last and probably least likely. I wanted to quickly touch on altitude sickness since it was mentioned acute mountain sickness which is the mildest form of altitude. Sickness isn't illness that can affect mountain. Climbers hikers skiers pretty much. Anyone traveling the high altitudes usually starting around eight thousand feet above sea level although park city clocks in at seven thousand feet. It's not uncommon visitors from lower altitudes to experience mild altitude sickness within the first forty eight hours of their arrival symptoms include nausea loss of appetite headache or even insomnia given the timeline of Jordan story. And both the profile and severity of his symptoms. I'm not convinced that the altitude of Park city affected MJ significantly more than the rest of the team Jordan went onto play forty. Four minutes dropped. Thirty points grabbed seven rebounds five assists three steals and had blocked before hitting the game winning shot to claim game five toward Funk. Sir Poisoning flu hangover. It didn't really matter and honestly it doesn't seem like we're much closer to the truth today than we were two decades ago but we know that no spoil cheese or moldy crust that a chance against the will of ill Jordan and the game went down as one of the greatest moments of his career and the League. Rachel that Jason Hare the director of the last dance but it's at the front row of all the action emotion of that era and brought us Michael's perspective as he drank some whiskey and reflected on himself that team and that time. Thanks for tuning in today's episode. If you want to share about the flu game or anything else you can hit us up directly on social media. We always appreciate you tuning in and hope you're saying well you're in the mix with medicine remixed.
S2 E4: 5000 Miles To Go
"The weather was good. At least as good as it gets when Everest. The temperatures were incomprehensibly low. And the wind was howling, but it wasn't a blizzard. That's a good thing. Robert was alone taking arrest. The other climbers were near, but were carefully managing their steps on the slick hard ice. Communication was really difficult. Oxygen Masks and high altitude cognitive apathy. Make it hard to concentrate in. multitasking is nearly impossible at high altitude on Everest. You do one thing. You put one foot in front of the other and move forward. You're either moving forward or retreating from the mountain. Standing still is like being in an electric chair waiting for them to throw the switch. If you're standing still, you're waiting to die. Robert was well liked in was quickly becoming a popular member of group. You hadn't known the others before standing on this particular spot. As one of the climbers turned to call out to Robert. He saw something that he was sure was a high altitude hallucination. As Robert turned toward the climbers calling his name. He lost his footing on a slick ice. He fell backwards, and then slid headfirst down the slope for forty feet before disappearing over the lip of the mountain and down the ten thousand foot north base. In the blink of an Eye Robert was gone. Yelling his name through the oxygen masks well, you know it's not helpful. In more lucid moments, you would recognize how ridiculous it is. But, it's what you felt like you had to do. Somebody you knew was sliding away and natural thing to do is to yell out their name. Feeling helpless and not really knowing what else to do. The climber nearest Robert Carefully moved down the forty feet to the lip. To this day, he has no idea why. He knew Robert was gone. There was no chance he hadn't gone down the full ten thousand foot slope, and at that speed and at that distance. There would be nothing left. Find let alone see. But. He went anyway. What he found was more horrifying than anything he could have expected Robert was alive. Caught by a small bump in the ice. On, his back head, pointing downhill and looking upside down at the ten thousand foot abyss, he was about to slide into. Blood was rushing into his head, which was already throbbing from the altitude sickness. His Oxygen Mask had been ripped from his face, and he had look I of panicking. Then strangely acceptance. He was slowly sliding down the mountain. And the fear was mixed with knowing. There was really nothing anyone can do. As the other climber got near, he realized that he had no ability to help. If you breach down the steep slippery slope with his hand, Roberts weight and gravity would have pulled both of them down the mountain. Call it a miracle? Divine intervention. Or good old fashioned good luck. The climber looked down and saw half buried rope in the snow. Taking out the rope. Climber was able to slide it down to Robert. Who was then able to tie into one end? With the help of the couple of other climbers were able to pull Robert Back to safety. Robert may very well have been saved by the same faith that Maurice had counted on for so long to keep him safe in assist him to the summit of Everest. Roberts fall was in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, five sixty one years after Maurice, was going to test his faith on the same terrain, and if the same route was followed, he would stand on the very same spot. Robert had slipped from six decades in the future. My Name is Jeff Arjun. And this. Is the high adventure podcast. Hello and welcome to episode four of season two of the high adventure podcast. If you're new to this season, you might want to go back and catch up by listening to episodes one two and three I know it's been quite a while between episodes, three and four and I apologize for that, but Cova nineteen and a number of other things that went on this spring. Kind of did a number on my schedule. I'm doing the best. I can and hopefully get back on a regular schedule here pretty quickly. If you're new to the high adventure podcast I. Encourage you to go back and listen to season one where we drill down into the story of the nineteen seventy seven. You Somebody Pot plane crash. That's where a plane carrying six thousand pounds of smuggled marijuana crashed into a frozen lake in the semi national. Park Backcountry. If, you've never heard that story. Encourage you to check it out so wild one. If, you're joining these stories. Please leave a review for us on any of the podcast platforms that you're listening to this program on. And please. Please tell your friends and share this podcast on your social media sites. There's always you can email me at the high adventure podcast at g mail dot com, you can find us on twitter at I adventure podcast on facebook at the high adventure podcast and on Instagram at high adventure podcast. We also post these episodes on both are youtube in video channels in both those channels are under our company name of accidental productions and check out our newly relaunched website. Accidental productions dot net where you can find a lot of other content. If. You're trapped indoors and looking for something to watch take a look at assault and El Capitain are film about the second ascent of wings of steel you somebody's most controversial climb. It's available on Amazon prime and streaming sites virtually everywhere. The story I told at the top of the show was an account of Greg childs experience on Everest in nineteen ninety five. Great Child is a highly experienced mountaineer, and he's also an author, and this story came out of a compilation. He contributed to called climb stories of survival from Rock, Snow and ice. So if you get a chance, pick up that book along with Gregg. Story, there is several others that are hair raising big mountain survival stories. In Our last episode Maurice had everything in place that in his mind would ensure success. A modified plane. Had maps and a route. He'd taken flying lessons and earned his license. And after the little mishap of a crash on day one of his trip, his plane was now repaired and ready to hit out on a five thousand Mile Odyssey that if successful. Would end in him standing on the summit of Mt Everest alone. Put your leather helmet and strap into the pasture cockpit. We're going to the Himalayas. as we discussed previously on the first leg of his journey Maurice had plan to fly to Bradford to say goodbye to his mother. Crashing chess short runway was clearly going to be a setback, so instead of seeing his mother Maurice climbed into the truck that was carrying his plane, and he rode back to London for the immediate repairs on his plane the Everest. The damage was more extensive than I thought. Maurice was told it would take three weeks to fix the plane. was devastating news to Maurice who now might miss the weather window to climb Everest during that couple weeks each year that the mountain is accessible. Maurice told the mechanics to work as fast as they could. And his plan was to fly Indian if he couldn't make an attempt on Everest during this season, he would use the year for reconnaissance. Get more time to plan his mountain landing and his Klein. While Maurice was waiting for his plane to be repaired a couple. Things happen that he felt my take away from his achievement. A pair by planes on a photographic mission had flown over the summit of Everest giving the world its. I look at the top of the world. More concerning was the new British expedition that was being mounted for another large organized summit attempt. This was going to be led by Hugh Rutledge. Rutledge was the fourth choice to lead this expedition after the top three choices were unwilling to risk another Everest attempt. Rutledge was a civil servant and mountaineer who had experience in the logistical knowledge for success. But. Maurice followed the slow progress of the expedition. He knew they would never make summit. Rutledge is expedition was enormous, fourteen climbers, several dozen Sherpas and support personnel, animals cooks tense. It was a huge operation. Ultimately Rutledge expedition did fail to summit Everest, but they did find the ice axe used by Andrew Irvine the climber who had disappeared George Mallory in nineteen, twenty four. The British government eventually ordered Rutledge to abandon the attempt. A? Post. Expedition Investigation report by the Mount Everest Committee blamed Rutledge for the failure. They've found that rutledge, though greatly liked and respected was not an assertive leader. Rutledge could however take pride in the fact that everyone in his expedition came home alive, which could not be said for several of the previous British. All this was good news for Maurice. Who had now have the mountain and the glory all to Himself? The British press had been covering Maurice's efforts throughout his preparations, but the country was not overly excited at this point, he was just taken off a plane. The leg of the trip that would capture the public's imagination was five thousand miles away on the slopes of the most unforgiving place on earth. He's never did get a chance to visit his mother before he left. Quickly back to London in with his plane before meeting her. But the press did have time to be with her, and she put out all the fear and emotion. You would expect from a worried mother. She said and I quote. I have one great fear. His left arm is practically useless. I keep asking myself can stand the strain. Can't carry anything heavy, with. I'm terribly worried about the oxygen apparatus. You'll have to carry I'm afraid it might be too heavy. When asked if she believed her son could climb Mt Everest alone, she just said. My son is a very brave man. We've discussed Maurice's war injuries and the problems. He had with his left arm, but his mother's words are the first time we learn. How truly damaged? His body really was from the war. I've read varying accounts of Maurice's life adventures, but this is the first and only time it was mentioned that in all practicality or he's had no use of his left arm. If you haven't thought this story was extreme to this point. I think you're going to have to reevaluate that opinion. While waiting for his plane to be repaired, Maurice, set a new departure date of May twenty-first. The Air Ministry had hoped that Maurice's crash would dampen his enthusiasm for what they were sure was an unintended suicide mission. They sent Maurice a letter alerting him net. His plan was to them, not acceptable. In the letter, the deputy director of Civil Aviation F jail, burcham wrote. I am directed to refer to your proposed flight to Purnea India and return in the Haviland Mahthir plane. In this connection, I am to inquire whether recent reports which have appeared in the press that after a rival it per near you propose to fly to and land upon the slopes of men. Everest have any foundation. I am to point out that previous permission of the government of Nepal is required for flight over the territory, and you will not be permitted to fly from purnea across the frontier into Nepal and let such permission has been obtained. The Air Ministry consider it unlikely that the Nepalese government would grant permission for you to fly over their territory to mount. Everest Maurice responded with his own letter a few days later, reminding them that the flying expedition over Everest was currently going on. Those flights seem to Maurice to be the defacto permission. He needed to go forward. The Air Ministry responded with more pointed letter feeling that Maurice had missed the point. Response was. It is evident that you have completely misunderstood the position. Recent flights had Nepalese government permission through negotiations with the government of India. The government of India has asked us to relate to you that you will not receive permission to fly from Purnea across the frontier, and it is impossible for the air ministry to give you any courage. Involving the Nepalese territory. They were politely telling Murray's not to go, and he was on his own if he got in trouble. When a reporter asked him about the air ministry's Response Marie said quote. The gloves are off. I'm going on as planned. Stock me. They haven't got a chance. The air. Ministry Saint Mary's One last telegram, forbidding him to go. or He's tore it up and climbed into his plane. It's important to know that Maurice was a decorated World War veteran. We've talked about this quite a bit. He gave a large part of his life and his health both mental and physical to his government. When his country called him to serve, he gladly did what they asked. But now fifteen years later, his government asks him to stop doing something, and he seems to have nothing but disdain for their messages or their orders. Is this just maturity, or is this a resentment? He developed for a government that sent him to die and now thinks it's too dangerous for him to fly to another country and climb a mountain. I think it's quite something what governments choose to do and say to their citizens. Is Hypocrisy or genuine concern. I think Maurice's response to the last telegram clearly articulated his opinion. So on a bright clear day at lane field, the large crowd of friends, members of the press and photographers were gathered to witness would at least Maurice thought was the start of a historic journey. Truthfully most came out because they thought it was literally the last time they were. GonNa see their friend. But. The crowd was excited. Spirits were high. well-known British pilot author Nigel Tangy, was there wearing a flight jacket that Maurice had given him the night before the famous pilot Jean Batten was there. Gene was the best known New Zealander of the Nineteen Thirties. She'd recorded a number of record breaking flights in one, thousand, nine, thirty six was the first person to fly solo from England in New Zealand. And of course Leonard in Enid Evans where they're enid titus small ribbon onto one of the wings struts just for luck. She said Maurice carried with him a silk pennant that all his friends at signed. He called it the flag of French. Oh very very melodramatic if you were trying to picture this in a movie or written a novel. As he climbed into the cockpit. He shouted out that they should not worry if they didn't hear from him for a couple of days. Maurice then fired at the engine and the ground crew kicked out the wheel chocks. The excited crowd waved is Maurice Swung the plane around flew into the wind, and as we talked previously. Flew the wrong direction down the runway. Barely was able to lift off and he missed a hedgerow at the end of the runway by just a couple of feet. But he made it it was up. It was in the air, and the crowd watched quietly, though as the plane grew smaller in the sky and flew toward the horizon eventually. Becoming just to spot in the sky and then disappearing altogether. Maurice Willson despite what seemed to be a series of questionable decisions was very competent. PERSON IS I've tried to describe throughout this story. He was simply unafraid to jump into unfamiliar surroundings experiences. In doing research for the story. There are conflicting accounts about Maurice's skill as a pilot now it's undisputed that he lacked mountaineering skills. But while some discount is flying skills. Praise them. Where does that type of evaluation come from? Some sources talk about meticulous planning and route development. But at the same time he crashed short flight to visit his mother and took off going the wrong way when leaving on his trip. Can enthusiasm in determination be. Substituted for competence and expertise. I personally don't think over enthusiasm and overconfidence. Help someone achieve what they're capable of. As a kid I loved baseball. I played my entire life and into college and High Level Leagues all over the place I. had confidence and enthusiasm I loved playing baseball and wanted nothing more than to play professional baseball. But. I didn't. And I'm not a professional baseball player. Many told me I was good or even a great baseball player. But the people who really knew and understood the professional scouts the teams. They said I was just okay baseball. No one wants to really listen to the critical voices, but often they're the only real ones telling the truth. Not Achieving a long held personal goal can hard to live with. There's a certain amount of shame that happens. I think when you work so long and so hard for something and others watch you work hard and watch. You strive to achieve a goal that when you don't achieve that goal. You feel like others are judging you in some way. In fact, most people never have the courage to truly put themselves out on the line for a difficult to achieve goal. In reality people are mostly self involved, and if your goal doesn't match your parallel, their own eight. Don't really give it too much thought. So People Watch from afar, but in my experience, our own disappointments are truly our own. Others don't really feel anything unless they are in direct competition with our goals. My confidence enthusiasm. Make me a tremendous baseball fan. But I never achieved. What at one point was my life's goal and no one has ever said anything to me about. That goal playing professional baseball. In my opinion Maurice was a great pilot, and he clearly wasn't amount near of any experience or repute. But he was very good businessman. I think the disciplining success in business gave him the confidence that he could succeed at anything he tried, and his time in the military gave him the organizational skills and pragmatism needed to set a goal and single-mindedly set out to achieve that goal regardless of the danger. Keep in mind. He had never really failed at anything in his life. Even the plane crash she walked away from. In the war when others died, he walked or limped. Away, but he survived. Every business he worked in or own was a success. Why would this? be any different. The things we now take for granted were futuristic unknowns in one, thousand, nine, thirty three. The use of radios accurate weather forecasts for the route and the well. Stopover destinations were all unavailable at that time. Today, no one gives a second thought to airplane. Inspections are refueling and maintenance stations for planes, but in nineteen thirty three, the number of airports that could inspect or repair a plane were few, and far between and I mean really far between. During Maurice's entire five thousand mile trip, he was only able to have his plane inspected for reliability and safety twice. That added a lot of uncertainty endanger to this flight. The fuel was also suspect in most places several times during refueling stops, the fuel came out of rolled rusty containers, and it was not the sufficiently high-octane necessary for the Everest to fly safely. During, most of the trip was pulled up layers of clothing and cramped into the open cockpit, listening anxiously to this sputtering and unhappy engine that was flying on the wrong. You'll and. Flying by a rough compass course. Navigation was mostly looking down from the airplane at the endless terrain in navigating by sight. These days people use GPS S.'s and. APPs to find parking places at the mall. And then they thank God when they find a spot closer to the store. Maurice thanked God. He just simply had the faith that God was watching out for him, and all would be well. The ice especially in the shade was hard slippery. But reese was making progress. Very soon. A strong and somewhat depressing fatigue overwhelmed him. Maurice was feeling the effects of glacial lassitude. which is a state of extreme, physical and mental weakness? Rutledge had written about lassitude when describing his previous expedition. Rutledge wrote. The sole disadvantage of climbing in these troughs within the glacier is the presence of stagnant air which brings on an extraordinary in devitalized lassitude. According to climbers who've navigated these glacial troughs. You might be going along well on the open glacier and be congratulating yourself on your fitness five minutes later in the trough. You can hardly put one foot in front of the other. Worrisome struggles were only just beginning, it began to snow. Struggled on our after our following one false lead, after another are slipping and falling constantly, but somehow managing to avoid the half hidden crevasses that littered the ice deal. They fall into any of these crevasses and Maurice would have disappeared forever. At three o'clock decided to pitch his tent and make camp for the night. In six hours he had covered three quarters of a mile and climbed two hundred and fifty feet. His diary entry for the day just said. Another hellish day. ooh! Maurice headed south southeast than across the English Channel on the first leg of the trip, and he landed in Freiburg Germany as planned. And spent the evening with friends. The distance between London and Freiburg is about four hundred and thirty miles by air. These days you can drive between London and Freiburg in about twelve hours or take a short ninety minute flight for about one hundred and fifty bucks. But in nineteen, thirty, three without filed flight plans, civil air controls radio communication, flying, four hundred thirty miles in a biplane was a risky proposition. The next morning Maurice was up early, and onto the next leg of his journey he set out for Paso a small city on the Austrian border where he could refuel, and the for the first time he the vast semicircle of the Austrian Alps which were shrouded in clouds. or He's refueled and took off climbing to eight thousand feet and quickly disappearing into the clouds. After forty hours of no sightings or contact the newspapers filled with pessimistic stories of Maurice and the Everest. Articles talked of inquiries being made in Paso in Freiburg for news Maurice, but all inquiries according to newspapers had proven fruitless. The Daily Express in a story has Maurice Wilson. The novice airmen who set out to plant a Union Jack on Mount. Everest suffered the fate of Bert ince. who was killed in a crash during his flight to Australia from London? Remember. No communication from plane to ground. And the first leg of his journey was taking him over water and sparsely populated areas. But Murray's was in fact just fine. When the clouds thickened at eight thousand feet, he dropped his seven thousand encircled for a bit to try to burn fuel, so he could be light enough to get to nine thousand and above the clouds. When that didn't work, he went to the backup plan that head in flying at about three thousand feet, and clear skies and skirting the fringes of the Alps. Flying over Lake Geneva and heading South Maurice passed by the Austrian, French Swiss and French Alps in. Marseilles. In Pisa the Aeronautica Tahiliani welcomed him with a heroes dinner. With local pilots signing the fuselage of the Everest. The newspaper soon got up to speed on Maurice's change of route. We're back on the story. The Daily Mail reported Mr Maurice Wilson of the London, Club, who has flying to Mount Everest is safe. Maurice was more than safe. He was cruising along very nicely, getting attention and admiration all along the way. From Pisa, it was a two hour flight to Rome in the Everest was due for its fifty our maintenance checkup. The plane was service, and he was off to Naples to have lunch, and he set down in Sicily for the night. The next leg was going to be flying over the Mediterranean searching for the African coast. The clouds were low in hovering about five hundred feet Maurice tried to fly up above the clouds, and got above the clouds about nine thousand feet, but he found that flying without oxygen was tough. Not to mention the temperatures that he faced, the open cockpit were fridge. He descended to about three hundred feet flew all day at that allegation until hitting. Kate Bon in northern Tunisia. And shortly after landed in deserter. The Everest needed refueling worries had no plans to stick around Tunisia but instead of group of well-wishers Maurice climbed out of his plane to a group of local police who quickly informed him? He was not welcome in that he could not refuel his plane. He was to take off immediately. Maurice flew a short distance of Tunis where he found some rusty barrels of fuel. Not really knowing what they were or who they belong to. He stealthily filled his plane and took up. Flying across the Mediterranean was a challenge in would be horrifying for any novice pilot, but the mental crux of the trip was flying across the vast wasteland of North Africa. Long distances of uninhabited in waterless desert made this section, perhaps the most dangerous. With so much terrain, looking the same careful attention to the compass and route finding was critical. A forester unplanned landing in this region would be certain death more. He's listened closely to the engine of his plane. He'd fill the tanks with an unknown type of fuel from rusty barrel. He had idea what damage he had done. If any, but. So far so good. As he approached the Libyan board of the engine began to cough and sputter. Next came a loud and violent knocking that shook the whole plane. It sounded as if someone was inside his motor with a hammer. He limped through the sky like a flying baseball, but he somehow managed to land as he was taxing. The engine coughed one last time and finally shut down. In our next episode, Maurice gets the Everest repaired, and he's off on the rest of his journey. Afar, far willie make. It seems as though his faith has carried him this far. We'll look for the power faith. Get him where he wants to go. Because it's clear, he's counting on faith more than skill and competence. Thanks for listening. Then Watch. The picture she'll. I. saw.
#027 - Wireless 2-Wire, Consolidating Controllers and Managing Remote Devices using Baseline SubStation Technology
"Hey what's up guys welcome to episode twenty, seven of the Sprinkler nerd show. So glad everyone's joining us today got an awesome topic for today and like we've done in the past, this is a replay of a baseline tectonic Tuesday episode, and it's one that I'm really excited about because we're gonNA. Be Talking about wireless to wire and you might be thinking he used the word wireless and wired in the same sentence. Yes I did and that is because we are using the same to wire protocol to communicate wirelessly as we are with a standard to wire system, and for those of you that may not be familiar with the baseline control system the to wire. Capabilities of baseline system is the fundamental foundation of the platform. So every device on a baseline system whether that's the decoders, the flow sensors, the pressure transducers, the soil moisture sensors, the event switches, the coaches, buttons, or conventional zones. Those are all to wire devices and we not only in power to those devices to power them up in operate them but we also sent data communication on the two wire cable. So today's episode of Baseline Tectonic. Tuesday you'RE GONNA learn how we take the to wire capabilities in the to wire a two way data communication protocol and use it in a wireless format. So you can take your to wire path. And now, you can extend it from not being limited to five thousand feet, but you could go ten thousand feet or ten thousand miles by adding wireless devices with additional to wire cables and sink it all up with one big wireless to wire system. So that's what we have for you today and I really appreciate everyone who is listening and who has commented sent. Me Notes really appreciate it, and if this is the first time listening remember to subscribe, leave a comment I love to hear from you and look forward to having you along on this sprinkler journey. So that further do let's jump into this episode of the Sprinkler Nerd show. If you are an irrigation professional older new who designs installs or maintains high end residential commercial or municipal properties and you WANNA use technology to improve your business to get a leg up on your competition. Even if you're an old school irrigators from the days of hydraulic systems, this show is for you. All, right. Well, here we are at the top of the hour the the boss man is gone today. So who knows what might happen on today's show might get a little crazy. This is episode nineteen right in Nineteen of Tech Talk Tuesday next week is the. Twentieth Anniversary Episode And today we're GONNA be talking about wireless to wire and I know that I sent out an email yesterday I tried to hook everyone and so far. Attendance is proof of that. And what we are going to talk about is actually wireless to wire. It might be a little bit different than your than you're thinking about and it's actually something that is not brand spanking new today, and so it's technology that we've had that we talk about and that we've actually talked about here on tectonic Tuesday but we wanna make sure that the concept is driven home that you guys know how are to wire works and how we are able to use it now in the wireless format. So that's what we're gonNA talk about today. For those of you that are joining us for the first time, you can catch all of our previous episodes on the Baseline Youtube, channel, which is baseline web training. All one word on Youtube. All previous eighteen episodes are there as well as a lot of dance awesome new training modules that he's putting out on on Youtube. And again next week is the twentieth episode and we're GonNa talk about tools of the trade that are helpful. Not only irrigation, but also specific to baseline so would love to have you join for our twentieth episode. I think Dan with that let's Let's kick it off into wireless to wire. Nice. Yeah. When we came up the idea of wireless to earn like what the heck are we talking about well. I really liked the approach that we we often ticket baseline is. Not Not, what is the technology? What is this cool? Gee, whiz technology but what's this problem you're trying to solve her? What's the big question? So the big question is, how do we connect remote zones and sensors bring them into our system? And manage them altogether that that I think is so wireless to is one of the ways that we can do that the re talking about installing battery packs. Man You can't manage everything together. Trench wire own. That's not always practical office. So. Today, we're GONNA talk about how to extend the reach of that wireless connection through substation and wired through powered by coder. So we'll take a minute I wanted to show you. Those devices. So this is a panel for the substation, right and what's really fascinating about this is I've just pulled the panel out and I have a controller in my office that I switch between. A controller and a substation because. This is the brains of the controller. This fits all of our standard. Controller boxes, right? Because it's just hinge is it's in in Saint Power Board same transformer. Yeah. The and one of the things that is pretty awesome about if you think based on has a platform. Under the hood that control panel being the hood is the boards that drive our products, the two wire boards. The conventional boards are all the same between one thousand, substation three, two hundred. So for replacement parts and even the module Larry of maybe starting with a one thousand and converting the system to a thirty two hundred was substations all as possible without removing entire control box. So the other, the other component we're talking about is a powered by coder. So powered by coder is the way that we address conventional wire, but it also off to the side we can pick up to our so I can run. This is a twenty four zone powered by Coder like one, twenty, four zones conventional, and I can bring up the remaining capacity whatever might controller can handle or my device can handle via to our second run to. So those are the two really components we're going to be talking about today. So. With that, I'm going to share my screen and show you what We're talking about. So. Here's our my my first sight that we're GONNA look at it and I. Think this is the simplest turn simplest way to look at it. Here we on the the Left I've got a base station thirty, two, hundred. And this base station thirty, two hundred needs to connect to a network or needs to communicate because we're talking device to device with our wireless to our. And the other devices we're going to connect to is a substation. Internet radio seems to be the most common for these kind of configurations. But ultimately, we're talking about connecting to a network and communicating to that device. A lots of other ways we can communicate People have found that directly device device radio is probably fits really well. So, here we're here we're going to have both of those devices connected that same networking. They're gonNA talk directly to each other. Now once we've done that the base station of the substation rather is a wireless extension of the Bay, station thirty two hundred. So. Going to the base station thirty, two, hundred, Senate Command it tells either wherever that zone is located whether it's physically located on the base station thirty, two, hundred or physically located on the substation. It doesn't really matter the base station thirty, two, hundred can control it wherever it is. Yeah and one of the things to that I usually use to describe how this works and I think at least half the people on this call probably know how to wire works in terms of the search and assign capability and how that is so powerful why that is so awesome. It works the same way right. So if you hook to wire up like you having your picture here zones and you want to bring those into the thirty, two, hundred controller. You turn the dial to search and assign your run a search. It uses the wireless protocol, but it's still that to wire search and assigned capability that brings those into the controller right? So on this this site, they had a mainline ran on both sides of the roadway and the main line ran underneath the roadway, but they didn't have a sleeve to get wire to the other side. This is a great solution. This is one reason why probably the main reason why we invented this was to get across a roadway or a driveway, maybe get across the parking lot when it wasn't practical the trench wire. We're GONNA talk about some other reasons that people would use it. But this also an, you've talking about the extension or the the wireless searching assign. Any device into that substation. Now it's part of the thirty, two hundred. So I could bring A. Flow Sensor, a master valve soil moisture since a pressured anything that we have could be installed on that substation conventional or to wire. In their brings back end because. Each of our substations. Can have a two wire or and or conventional wire Yep Yep that to report that red and black to report is a standard on all baseline products, and so if you think of that substation, it has that to report and that means you can plug any to our device right into that substation and searching assign from the controller. So we're talking device to device but there's another way that we can have these communicate and. Change my slider. So the other way to do it is to do device to cloud. So only thing I've changed on this one is instead of talking directly to each other, the base station thirty, two hundred has AC will subscribe of the other subscription involved to baseline cloud networking. So the. Controller talks to the cloud network, the substation talks to the cloud network, and that's how they're going to share their information is in debt cloud network. So when I want to run zones attached to the substation, I'll send a command to the thirty, two hundred in it's always on. So it's connected to the cloud the base station. The substation is always connected to the cloud it receives the command via the cloud in the zones run. So. This is this the setup works really well when I can't connect to the same network or this really opens the door for cell modems to. Now. Some modems are certainly easier to set up in radio networks in pretty darn affordable. So I can use a cell modem in each of these devices connected the cloud network and work with them. Yeah. Yup. Not. Every site is a fit for for radio for various reasons either distance or obstruction, and so now they're able to pipe this connection through the cloud. The substation can be located. Anywhere right, it's going to bring us up your jump I like we're going with this one I'll show you on the next slide. I've also found that Sites where they have trouble connecting to the network and it could be as simple as the it department just doesn't get it right. So if you're on a campus or a school or a a city, an it department is not cooperating, they don't work with them. Fine will just going to connect to baseline cloud network in share information and we won't mess around with the IT Department. avoid them. So we found people that are troubled by them, and this is a great solution for that one. So and let letting to the next one right is. How this open, some really interesting doors on how we can. Expand this. So if I can connect to the cloud with my device. There is no distance separation. Right radio has a distance, but a cloud doesn't if I'm connected to the cloud maybe station thirty, two hundred is connected the cloud. My substation is connected to the cloud other substations on the side of the city on the site across the state. I mean you can have across the US. It's really the how you connect them. You're almost unlimited. Right, right and just to kind of bring this back home. Remember. You. Turn the dial to surgeon assign and you click searching assigned just like you would if it was a traditional to wire system and we have that same. Capability of two way communication out to the substation and then out to its devices and right back to the controller. Exactly the same way. We've just made a wireless system. Yeah. Now. I'm showing three substations on on this slide. Weaken actually have up to eight substations connecting back into that base station thirty, two, hundred they could all remotely dial and somehow connect to the cloud or radio connect back. Now, the other limit on this one is the. Since. It's connecting back to the bay station thirty, two, hundred, the. Three, two hundred is the controller that runs all of these. There's two hundred zone is is two hundred on that controller. So that's the limit. So this really works well with pocket parks in cities so they've got little tiny. Pocket Parks with maybe ten zones or fifteen zones. So they can bring the back into a base station thirty, two hundred and could be five miles away on the side of the city and then ten miles on that side of the city it's bringing them all together into one controller because the the base station thirty, two hundred can handle two hundred zones. Nice. So I think this was kind of a cloud networking really opened this up and made this very practical with the radio is a little less practical this very practical. Substation can be used to extend the to wire path. So here's. Here, we've got zones in multiple places along this wire path and What happened is there's a there's a finite limit to how far you can run a wire depends upon the size of the wire, right? Generally five thousand feet could be up to eight thousand feet if you have a larger wire size. In people have been known. To have been known to go over that limit. Either because they made a mistake in the beginning or the site continued to grow and they didn't pay attention to the limitations as they continue to add on. Right. So there was a contractor that that I heard of that was a new installation and had ran the run burned the wire too long even though it was designed properly and they just. Probably, the way they had to route their wire and it was really going to hurt them while we had a solution for them there was able to to work out and what they did is separated into two wire segments. and. Then connected them virtually or electronically through substation and baseline. Cloud networking. So if they have definitely extend the reach of the two wire. So instead of going that five thousand or eight, thousand foot. They could now go sixteen thousand voter twenty have a larger amount of wire in there. Right. Right and. You remember that some of the limitations built on the single transformer out of the controller. So by adding the second substation, now we have the same distance specification that was in the controller moved into a substation, and you can do that up to eight different times. So in theory, if you had five thousand feet of wire on your controller, you could have five thousand feet of wire on substation one again on substation to and you could have You know I don't know what that forty or forty, five, thousand feet of total wire. You'd likely run out zones before you reach that distance, but it's certainly possible maybe when we get to Phoenix where they don't have dense planting but. Texas? But yeah, we're I'm showing you the wire running off the road off the edge of the screen, and that could go like you said another five to eight thousand feet depending upon the size and then repeat it in repeat it and repeat it. To us for design intent you know. So engineered and configured this way from the beginning or used to extend the site that was existing that may reached its. Low limit on the on the system right? Right. Yeah but it was Kinda fascinating about this is when we first invented this we as as a team, we thought it was going to be used a very specific way, and then as we started coming up with some really interesting use cases in like. Oh. Wow. We can be using it all these other ways, and this is this is one of them. I'd be remiss if I didn't talk about wire to wire. So powered by coders part of this Problem solving tool the toolbox that we have here. So in this case, the powered by coder is where we have a base station thirty, two, hundred or base station one thousand, and that's kind of what's nice is either controller will work with this one where the substation is an extension of the base station thirty, two, hundred, not the base station one thousand. So here I've got a base station one, thousand, thirty, two, hundred connected to a to our path in zones attached to it. Somewhere. On that. Wire. Path. got a power by coder connected. That is receiving that to our path and an can run conventional zones or other devices out there. So now the That that powered by coder that we we saw earlier right this this device. Is a just another to art advice on that wire path. Some things that are cool about this it works with either controller. There's no networking involved and it works really well when you have an existing wire path or a new two wire path. And you can. You can bring that in. So this allow you to bring devices back into that controller put in a wired method. Yeah. Yeah I'm I'm glad you're talking about this because this goes back to the very beginning baseline baselines. Had this this powered by Kodo technology essentially since day one when you think back to the first base line two thousand. Product and some of our users that have been with us a long time. No. This others that are new don't know that this product exists and it's you know in the fundamentals of how baseline operates why we call that a powered by Coder because all those terminals are to wire addresses in their addressable. So this is a great way to. Think about taking this technology in making it wireless and that sort of what the substation does make that. Technology. Wireless. Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. So there's a couple of different options or different ways we can use power by coders. So you could use them in a new cabinet. So on the with the red wire on the left or my left is a to power by coders in a cabinet picking up conventional wire. and. So that, we've got to are coming in there I'd like your comment that you made when we were doing a practice. It's like. How do I know what that is? He right dance showing me this picture these red wires and he says this is a substation and I said how maybe it is maybe it isn't because what we're looking at is the same boards that are in either a one thousand X. are forty, eight, three, two, hundred, x are forty eight. Or the substation ex are forty eight. Or could be power by coders in a cabinet anyway, right. So But you can buy them in just a cabinet. so and the cabinet will carry up to forty eight zones, and if you need more, you could Brennan additional cabinet though. You could also use power by coast powered by coders to retrofit into an existing cabinet. So in the center I thought this was kind of I thought this is pretty fascinating. There's a three actually think there's four cropped out Mexican pedestals. And we'll kind of cool about this Mexican pedestals is stainless steel. So they're they're fully robust they're not. You're not going anywhere. They've got power supply. And the convention wires coming into that one. Let's make use of that. Will we have what we call a p? C. K. it's usually that power by coder mount with a back mounting plate. In this case, they use the existing transformers they connected to the existing field wire and mounted that in there. Now, you need to have a little bit of engineering chops on their to do some basic mounting but it's a great money saving on money saving feature on that. They'll with powered by code or in each one of those three cabinets, they still need some way to connect those wires together. So one way would be to. Get a big three inch pipe and run a loom of one hundred, fifty wires all the way back to the first line and put all the power by coders. Kind of annoying while all they had to do was in a half inch conduit run one section of to wire to connect those power by coders together daisy chain them together because. The power by code is just another to our device. So they did anywhere alone around they just extended it with a small section of three foot section at two hour. And then the last one on the far right is a power by code inside a baseline controller. So this looks like this is my one thousand control have here in my office with the power by Code Rennet but. We've always had this option, right so you could buy a base station thousand or base station thirty, two, hundred. With powered by coder in it. And that's how you would bring to our technology. To your convention wire site. Because all of our controllers are to our controllers, but this is how we would interface with that convention wiring and not have you have to replace the wire. And then of course, right remembering that we have a to our terminal on this board as well. So if you ever expand or want to do any additional work or put in extra sensors, you can put those on the red and black terminals connected to the two are. Cool. I've got. To sites that we're GONNA take a look at that are there are some very, very real world and actually we saw these in previous techniques. These are sites that Tracy shared with us. Yeah, and I think that it's good to to reiterate some of the stuff we've already talked about a repetition purpose but also many of you may understand how we were able to tackle these big complicated sites that we talked about for others may have just gone right over and so we wanted to bring You know sort of what we're talking about today or their wireless to wire back to some of these sites ve already discussed to make sure that we're l know how this technology works in the real world. Right. So this site this is actually the site I've been using earlier today has five different water sources. So five water meters domestic water meters spread across his business park. There's one base station, thirty, two, hundred that's the pedestal. And then they've used four substations that are connecting back to the base station thirty, two, hundred on networked via radio. and. Then they've also used six powered by coders out in the field to connect to conventional are. So they've got the mix in the match of everything. So they've got bay station thirty, two, hundred, the substation empower by Coders the they've got it all. ADDS a great way to consolidate controllers right because this used to be five, and now it's one and then just for repetition, these are all search assign devices. So at that controller, turn the dial to assign when you click search assign it goes out wirelessly and brings back into the controller. All the different devices that may be connected to those substations was could be your flow sensors pressure sensors to coders All the to wire devices. Are Searching. assignable in that wireless fashion, right right. The one other site that's another real real world site that we've seen before. Here. This one is a little different We just got one waterson the site or pulling from that lake. But they've got three bay station thirty, two hundred controllers and those have radio in them. They've got fourteen wired powered by coder. So that's how they're connecting to the conventional wire, and because they have three controllers in one water serse, they're using a flow stationed manager. That's the only reason they needed. The radio was for the controllers to communicate to the flow station. So that yellow grouping that yellow controller with the yellow power bikers that's connected. Actually be a to our path, and that's how they're bringing that convention where back into the Bay station thirty, two, hundred. And communicating amongst back and forth because, right the to our path is two things right it's carrying the power for zones and it's also the communication wire. For our controller. That Green, controller zone standalone, and in the purple grouping is another controller and another grouping of power by CODERS. and. Then the flow station is the one managing all the flow across all of those controllers. Yep. So again, for sake of repetition on, the purple. Arrangement. When you turn the dial to assign, you do a search assign and it pulls in all those devices connected right into the controller right? I think the reason tracy used three different controllers is because the station count was quite high on the site. Right. So I think he is he is a upwards is just under six hundred zones on this site really close to it. Yep Yep ask the the limitation is the limitation of the thirty, two, hundred that two, hundred zone count twenty, five, soil moisture sensors, eight water Thursday points a connection etcetera etcetera. Soon, as you get out of that, then you have to add additional controllers. And data flow station if you're managing the flow between right Beautiful Okay. Well, we don't have. Canceled we don't have. Questions. We don't have Chris here to to manage your questions. So let's see. This is a great question as relates to the substation. Can we use a solar powered thirty, two hundred with a substation So those are. Two different questions because the substation is connected to a thirty two, hundred wirelessly it's important to remember that was solar. We're talking about to wire not to wire to wire. D. C. Latching to wire devices in a true to wire. So non-conventional wire as long as it is a true to wire non-conventional wire, the controller can be solar and the substation could be solar. We just cannot operate the AC soul noise it needs to be DC to wire. And then we have ABS like us a question that is similarly related. How far can valve be away from the by Kotor? Using state fourteen, one so. Believe it's one hundred and fifty feet from the little black decoder module to the soul Noy d- I think that's just standard eighteen gauge I'm not sure but the only the only thing. I'd probably say on a one, hundred, fifty feet is accurate to too. So if I had a four zone by CODER and I wanted to extend wire to to the Next Valve The only thing I would caution on that one is extending that number fourteen it is. You're opening a for damage right along that wire will because it's not along the to our path. If it was along the to our path, you just drop in another Dakota. Then give yourself more options that does probably the only caution I'd have on that yet. Any other. Questions for us today. Take a look. I would say preferably related to topic. Ends add but I'll I'll You know mentioned again the the way that the. Wireless to wire the substation comes into the controller are zones of the system, and so when you take five or six controllers and you're going to consolidate them into one, it's important to remember that those existing twenty four zones now becomes zones of the thirty two hundred. And, I see some people that use labeling in the zone descriptions to help remember they may say. controller BS on one controller bees zone to control zone three so that when they reference those zones either in quick viewer in programming, they can remember that zone fifty six used to be controller. For. Right, just as a kind of a tip. To that point in, forgive me if I'm repeating what you just said. But when you search for those zones new, bring him in from the substation, you don't know that they're on a substation. In. They have an address. All you're seeing is either the Dakota address of the Black Decoder or the serial number of the screw terminal, the vague the Sierra number. So one of my thoughts and something I promoted my training rooms is if you want to know where those wires are. So later on, you need to do wire work. For example, is you can name you can put a unique name on there, and it might be just s s one for substation Juan s ss to, and then put your naming structure that you might put on your substation. The APP that will give you a clue as to where it is bigger the site, the more names and descriptions are super. Helpful Yeah Yeah. Especially, for troubleshooting when you call support or you're talking to one of us. It's nice to be able to use real world names instead of Dakota XYZ. Right right. So cool. I think Dan that we're coming right up on on the thirty and again next week is our twentieth episode. Chris said we're GONNA to do some giveaway. So let's hold them to since he's not here. Right for those of you that may have joined us on every episode and I think there are some that have been with us fora one, right So next week, we'll be talking about tools of the trade tools that you want us. To our systems and definitely for baseline systems, they'll be physical tools and maybe some electronic or other tool. So. Cool. All right guys have fun out there be safe and we will see you next week. Okay. Take care. Bye. Bye.