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Paul McCartney

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41:37 min | 2 years ago

Paul McCartney

"Iheartradio presents inside the studio I'm your host. For this episode we went on the road to Winnipeg where the temperatures are frigid, even in September, and it's apparently illegal to serve a burger anything other. Than well done. We went in search of historic Paul. Paul McCarthy and he told us about how the fiftieth anniversary of sergeant pepper's helped inspire work on his new album Egypt station. Why he likes to walk the streets of New York by himself. And why the recording the white album itself now getting a box set fiftieth anniversary release may not have been quite as bad as Beatles legend has. Egypt station is McCartney's first studio album and five years since two thousand, Thirteen's new. It's gotten rave reviews though. It won't exactly change the truism that McCartney's post Beatles music. Is Most undeniable when the cream is skimmed for best of collections. But The comparison to his peers is instructive. Bob Dylan hit a late career strike, producing himself starting in two thousand and one with love and theft. For his last three albums. Dylan is stuck to covers of Tin Pan Alley standards. The rolling stones have relied on the same producer. Don was for the last twenty four years, and their last album blue lonesome was a collection of old school blues songs. McCartney who describes himself as still very competitive in a recent Chiku cover story beat them both to the covers thing. As rock and roll with Nineteen Ninety nine run devil run which you should definitely here, and he did standards in two thousand and twelve with kisses on the bottom which you should definitely skip. The producers for new Egypt. Station include Paul Edward R Bronson Greg Kirsten and Ryan. Guys who've made some of the biggest hits of recent years with Adele Bruno Mars. Beyond say that. If Egypt station is McCartney's first ever solo album to enter the charts at number one that's partly because the charts have changed in the streaming era, and partly because the dude is seriously tried. Egypt station has a fair number of what Paul once called silly little love songs. Some of them like for you are sex songs. And though he's not usually thought of is making protest or political songs, the album has it share those two three. If you count the Anti Bullying Song, who cares? You might enjoy the swampy groove. People want peace, but think it's wishful thinking. Although. You might also think what's wrong with that. But the song, despite repeated warnings sticks a little harder. It uses nautical themes. What should we do with a drunken sailor? Red Sky in the morning. SAILORS WARNING TO PAINT DONALD TRUMP's presidency is an out of control ship of state, and it was inspired in part by trump's change denial. It doesn't seem like people connected this with another song you did. Motivated by climbing change, big boys bickering. Yeah, that was quite a few years ago, but same famous doing your homework. America a half. What they pay me for it's an American president again, refusing to sign a climate accord, but in this case George h.w Bush, in Nineteen ninety-two so this is an important issue to you. You know the thing is i? Think everyone like me who believes in climate change, and that's a Lotta people. Were looking at these climate accords, and these these meetings was one in Japan. Was Wanting Copenhagen and you know as came up. We all be looking at in going over disappeared the wall. We're going to do something about it. Everyone's going to get together. All the nations going to agree you know we've got to figure it out, and then it would fail. I don't believe America and China Jin sign it, and it was so disappointing. You know that finally when Paris arrived, is I? Can't believe you know on then. Trump pulls out of it is like ooh. You know that was like really disappointing, but you know the thing is as far as I'm concerned is reality. I don't think there's any doubt about that. You know we're getting. This freak weather. And you could say as some people who deny climate change say well. You know there's always been freak weather. It's always been you know. Maybe it's just more of the same but I don't know I believe scientists. They study about harder than I do, and they do have science on their side. Clever man you know, but science does indicate that if you warm up the planet, you're going to get these effects, so yeah I was in Japan, actually and I saw in a newspaper I saw this phrase despite repeated warnings. I can't remember what it was about knows just about something else I told it. That's a good phrase. Despite repeated warnings, and I made the song up about the and in the chorus. When you say, how can we stop him? Grab the keys. Lock them up are you thinking of those locker up? Chance directed at Hillary Clinton at the trump rallies, and actually you know but. I kind of plays into it on your writing the song, so it's not always that logical is just writing the song. So what if it's you know you start off may be very logical, and and you give yourself the freedom to roam. You know so I wasn't actually thinking that I was thinking what we do, the drunken sailor. I was hoping normal spot. Shortly after we were done, talking Paul went onstage in played in nearly three hour, said thirty nine songs twenty, three of them Beatles, songs three from Egypt station and the restaurant from the other twenty four studio albums. He's recorded solo or with wings, except for the one song he recorded with Kanye West and another one, he recorded in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Fifty, eight with the quarrymen. His band with John Lennon and George Harrison before the Beatles. Three hours thirty nine songs. He's not seventy six years old. That is a solid night's work. It's roughly twice. The number of songs played lately by the Rolling Stones and Bob Dylan, both still out on the road, and long may they run, and not even counting the one hour soundcheck McCartney played earlier in the night for those who bought VIP tickets, so that's a grand total of about four hours of playing Guitar Bass Piano and during his version of George Harrison's something ukulele. For those keeping score at home four hours. That's about half of the marathon. Eight hour sets. The Beatles put in Hamburg in nineteen. Sixty when McCartney was just twenty years old. That's pretty remarkable. The rockstars of the sixties used to represent an ideal of freedom for their audience the freedom to live. However, you wanted outside of society's rules. In their septuagenarian years. These guys represent a different kind of freedom. The freedom to keep on keeping on to be able to do in your seventies what you used to do in your twenties. No one may be better or more joyous representation of that then Paul McCartney. Score one for vegetarianism. McCartney's work ethic may come from his Dad Jim who put in ten hour days as a cotton broker. In Liverpool, and also played trumpet, and Piano leading a group called Jim Max jazz band. It goes without saying that Paul does not have to do any of this. It's not just that. He changed the world with the Beatles creating the context. They pretty much. All Pop music unfolds in today and by the way. I mean that in the most literal sense. The pension for micro hooks, the defines current modern pop is prefigured by McCartney's prodigious gift for melody. Ban on the run from nineteen seventy-three. There must be four songs. Worth of hooks packed into the first eighty seconds. Guitar! Synthesizer. Bass. Vocal. And that's just the intra really is just the first intro because there's another intersection with another set of guitar, Sam Bass and vocal hooks. Only this time you count the drum part to. Foreign Fanfare. then. Song actually starts. So in a different way than his peers. McCartney has an eternal relevance. The other thing that makes how hard he worked so striking. Is it McCartney has long been touted as one of the most wealthy figures in the music industry. With a net worth estimated at one point two billion. According to Forbes, he added another fifty four million dollars to that pile last year when he was finishing up these seventy seven dates of his one on one tour, making him be thirteenth highest earning artists in the music business on a list topped by ditty. Fiance and drake. Eternal Relevance again. As. You're about to find out. Paul McCartney, pretty optimistic view of the world. You can hear just in the way. He pronounced the word Winnipeg. At one point. He told us that the Beatles never argued about music. If they had an argument, it was about other stuff and then later. He told us about an argument that they had. About music. Does, he contradict himself. Maybe. He was also there. I think he knows better than you and I. So let me get out of the way because I've always wanted to say this. Ladies and gentlemen. Paul McCartney. Paul McCartney welcome to inside the studio. Joe. Our very special edition of backstage at the Paul McCartney show okay here. We are in Winnipeg in Winnipeg Winnie the pack a few months ago. I'm walking up Park Avenue and I passed guy coming down the street. Who looks remarkably like Paul. McCartney yeah park, avenue and eighty nine th street I think can't be Paul McCartney, no one with no one around. did a double take. It was Paul. McCartney couldn't have been him. But, it was you were just walking down the street by. Walk down. Streets There for walking down. I've heard that. I like to get out and about and people say oh. No, you're going to have. A course of security behind you still. I'd like to just get out just as you feel like yourself instead of like A rockstar. Are there times you do to feel like a Rockstar You know what I do the show. That's good, but then you know you need to balance it, so you get off the stage, and maybe you know like you say you walk in so more. So? I like to just get out like I always did when I was a kid, so it just. Keeps me sane and it's. It's the same feeling as when I was gay. Just walking around only differences I get recognized. Everyone reaches in their pocket immediately. FIT If. You know, but no I got you know quite a lot of free too much around I value it, and then you know if I'm out at a restaurant and still for my wife, so am I come over per voter I sail, not they're not just Narino is a private moment, and most people are very cool. Understand it, so I like to keep that you know private bit of my life. And then I liked the other bit even more because like. Wow, this is cool. The other bit being in public being on stage. Yeah, you have to like it. You are playing these three hour shows. We just saw a one hour soundcheck and that's something that people don't actually know that. Many concerts are preceded by this one hour soundcheck, I I think you have no settlers for that? Many of those songs aren't in the set right, yeah. I mean 'cause. It's good because we need to check. The instruments were GONNA use. Just to make sure they're all plugged in, they will work and I mean there was little moment. There normally doesn't screw up too much, but I'll. Keyboard player is move didn't work, so that's good. That's what a sound checks for instead of just doing all the numbers from the show. Kinda spoils the show for us. Because we get bored in the number again, we just use the same instruments. We're GONNA use, but we switched the numbers about. We do any else in. So we'll do kind of. Like skiffle things folk things early rock and roll. Things like little solely thing. Midnight special tonight, which was kind of amazing. We always do midnight specially often. Do you know got certain songs that go way back before? I started even playing. You know I think that's like Bill Bruhns Z. Songs. He's an old blues singer and they're just songs. You learn along the way and you like them, so you're getting opportunity so something like this. Where this a soundcheck. All you really need to do is just make sure everything's working. then. You can indulge yourself and play something like that. You know, and it's nice, keeps it fresh. You know talking about the songs you do know there's something I wanted to ask you about in the list now is in spite of all the danger. Yeah, the first song recorded by the quarrymen in nineteen fifty eight. Oh my God, so it's now sixty years old. and. That can't be true, does before mytalk? I will say for those just listening at home. He could pull that off because it does look like he's not old enough to. Really but thank you, but that said the amazing thing that I realized is that you know you're performing songs from your your newest record Egypt station, and the very first thing you ever recorded, so the audience tonight will hear sixty years, Paul McCartney sauce. Yeah. It is crazy. You know it's. I mean join play. For that long. And when I do that song is by double the danger, which was the first little demo we ever did with the Beatles before we got a record contract or anything so. I always imagine us all. Go into this little studio in Liverpool or pain a pound each. FOR FIVE POUND DEMO AND Doing this little song you know and it's. It's so ancient that it's great for me because it's like what it is. It's like reaching back into your childhood. So it'd be like somebody may be listening to this thinking of. They were on the beach when they were wall on his own. What a great memory! You know, so! It makes a special for me. Just thinking that. Wow, you know it goes back really before we ever went down to Abbey road before we got a record contract for you into Hamburg. We've been to Hamburg. Yeah, so it's great memory for me and I like doing Kazaa. We get the audience involved on that one. You know, so we have former. To it is nice to be able to say this is the very first thing we ever did. I record I was ever involved with a man. We come right up to date, and we say oh now. This is like the most recent. So it seems to fit together. You know you know so. That's twice now that you've mentioned drawing on those childhood feelings I. We were talking about walking around by yourself and now when we're talking about playing the song in spite of all the danger, is that a a wellspring for you going back to that time or or holding onto that energy? Yeah, you know it's funny in the fields were even when we were like. Maybe twenty twenty four years old swimming in the high to the Beatles. We often would we try to work out something on a song or what? WE'RE GONNA? Do with a recording. We often say what would. We are done members seventeen. and we check back to seventeen year old selves who resort like well like the coolest opinion and the world. Well, we would have said Yes to yes to him or no way that that's no good you know, so you always refer to that period. You know it's your formative period to when you get a lot of your ideas, and in my case of you're writing songs. Those memories of very rich wells of inspiration. So you know I can just think why I remember walking on the road. Widow Guitars, and our bags mean John just before we were famous in on me, writing letters to people, dear sir, we are a rock, Combo and you know we would love to play at your place. You know so old that sorta stuff. It's kind of like magic for me. I think also because of how far I've come. So you got that very early, innocent period a man we get famous with the Beatles. What before that? We go to hamburgers, you say, and then we get famous the Beatles, and then we get the American fame on then we make records and we we go through various phases, so it's a long long long journey. A man right now you know here I. Am you know making a new album Egypt station and long behold it goes to number one in America. You know you can imagine you a where partying. That night was a party. See I want to ask you about that. Egypt station enters the charts at number one so I. Guess if you're keeping score at home. That's your first record to debut at number one since the Beatles, since the Beatles and the first number one in I believe thirty six years. So, what was the party? What was the you? You know the great thing was after the show. Sometimes, if the guys don't have to load out if they're all in a place going to play the place tomorrow, which was occasion I'll say okay. Let's get together. Drink have something to eat on. We got the crowd in, so we all get to hang with each other, because it's a bit like a family, you tour family, you know, so. We all get together and our DJ who comes with us on the tour hilty Jason Nice. Dance Music still so we're going to have that little party anyway. And then certainly afternoon right after soundcheck on my phone I get the message. Bank congratulations records Cullen Memorial and I'm just about to go. The dressing room was I stopped Oh wait a minute i. guys announced to a everyone. IS WE NUMBER ONE? You know so that party that evening. That was special because we had a real great reason to celebrate, we're we're going to celebrate anyway. Just having a party, but it became really special. We danced the night away baby. I was talking to someone at Your label in Los. Angeles, Capitol Yeah and they said. Well they said Back at you. They said we're amazed at how hard. This guy works seventy six years old three hour concerts, but also he's out there doing things taking advantage of opportunities we bring him. If we bring them to a twenty three year old artist, they might complain. Pause like yeah, let's do it. What what I was promoting a record used to be quite boring. Because they would trot out the same old things you go to go there. You GotTa do thirty six interviews. Gloom we're going to take you to someplace central in Europe where all the European territories can come in so. How? Does that was Cologne. They always say you're going to say why Cologne so well. It's in the Middle Europe and we'll bring the Italians French, Swiss and everybody in on, so I gotTA. Did it thinking go to promote the record, but it was a deadly bowl. It was really like Oh, no, not again so I kind of rebelled one day either meeting. I said look. Let's make it something we're excited about. 'cause we're excited. We'd like to have a good time, so let's Cook Up. Some ideas don't like fun and they're different, and it's not going to Cologne with endless interviews, so we had some great little things. We had playbacks studio in La. We'll working out Henson and we had these little playbacks for I heart. These are great little sessions. We just crank it up. Played the album for them, so that was easy. The Concert Abbey Road that you did. Cabinet. We, did you Cavin? We went back to my old school. Little concert, so you know it made phone. Made it interesting on each little thing was different, and so it was a yeah capital were happy, but I was happy with the ideas. We're cooking up together. You know slow as good ideas. That were exciting everyone. We had a blast. You were with Gregg. Curtin End Ryan Cheddar. Yes, record and and Ryan you did the for you. Yeah, or some might hear it the way I do. which would be a naughty word and when we can say, we saw you there, we go. You if you give someone a present, you don't say this is for you, you go. This is for you. For you okay, you H, okay, so this is my story, and I'm sticking to it okay, and yet I was immediately reminded of something I grew up reading a grew marcus essay in the old rolling stone illustrated history of rock and roll about the Beatles, where he recalls hearing I saw her standing there on the radio immediately in the days after the first appearance on the ED. Sullivan show he writes pause one two three fuck opening. How in the world did they expect to get away with that? And the thing is after i. read that I never heard it another way I always heard well I'll never hear nor the way now. I wasn't that, but I like it. And you know. It's kind of Nice thing when people can misinterpret. Donald they extra meaning on I. Mean I did the Songhai which will do tonight? And there's a line in it, which I was Kinda right just surrealist lyrics I was like. So I wrote I wrote. Lie on the bed. I can't ready for my POLYCOM. Doesn't mean he wasn't Polycom. But. People thought it was get ready for my body Gong. What is better? Ever Sung it that way. Yeah, okay, so you know. This Better. Than the, the real lyric. Tell me you've said that. The songs you you worked on with Gregg. You brought into the studio, but when you were with Ryan Tetter, he wanted to make it up in the studio. Yeah, tell me a little bit about putting that Song for you together as you say when I was working with Gregg which was most of the time I had a lot of songs I wanted to record so I came in, and we worked on together, but they were ready written, and then there was a period there were great couldn work, but I had a couple of weeks off, so I took one of the weeks as a holiday. and then the other week manager, said Jordan keep the momentum going. You're role here, and if you want to keep it going, you know I, I can suggest. The people you might work with, so he sent me a few suggestions and I liked what I was here in. The Ryan was doing didn't know much about him. I phoned him up and we had a great conversation, so I said well Konta my studio in England and we'll just figure it out would just think to something you know so I, so? I've got a couple of songs. We could do these now. Let's just make it up. Could we did long? We just had the seven days. They might have even been five dollars, and so we just made them up and we ended up making a three tracks. When you say, make them up where you writing side by side. Were you throwing? Ideas you know just throwing ideas out heat so to say what about Jay I'll do job new. Who Dr Daru so I go out to Mike. Donahue Daru and I think I'll. Stick some words, and hey, you want to do and I eventually put some words to, and we put a beat to it and I put some guitar on Bass on or whatever and him and his co-producer Zach. They got grooving with the sounds. An I'd get sort of thinking what was going to do on the vocal. They throw ideas out what I thought. Let me, try. So some of the things didn't work. Can those crews funny because of this method of work? Trouble was after that. Becomes a love you, baby. And, it's like. This is a bit boring. So I said to Ryan in the middle of the week I, said hey you know. I said I'm known for doing songs like Eleanor Rigby or you know live and let die, which go little bit of meaning to them. You know so. I said I'm not sure I can do this. I love you, baby. Said well I'll tell you what so we decided what we would do. We'd carry on like that and then I'd revisit it. And come up with what I told were better lyrics, so that was how how we did. It made a lot of it opposite along, and so that was good, but the bit sites were Corny I just rewrote, and then went in and fixed the vocal with these new woods. You know a week or so ago. I was in Los Angeles. I saw band Lake Street dive. terrifically talented banded the Wilton and they they do in their set. Let me roll it. and. It's it's great. And after I was talking to them, she that's terrific and they looked at me and they shrug never. Yeah, it's a Paul McCartney Song! Then, they started talking about three you. got a song out now and the thing is. It's so on trend like it's got these. The drum track in these little drops in. They were like the mazed that. Classic McCartney molasses him up against the sort of modern. Ryan brought to well. That's that's what it was. Yeah rhyme brought to it, and as as Zach is co producers. Young Guy Kozak and the two of them. To care that side of things. What's about this you know, let's so. They would take a little bit my vocal and speed it up and drop it back in and do these little crunchy things, and you know the idea was if I didn't like it, I go. Oh, no way man, but most of the time ago. That's cool I like that with three strikes. Only one's been released from that weak, but the others are pretty good, too, and then when you were working with Greg. That's over a longer period. Yeah, and you've said that one thing that charged those sessions was seeing this documentary Howard Goodall did yeah about the rerelease, the fiftieth anniversary set of sergeant pepper's. The you actually had this experience of learning. Wait wait. That's how we did it. Yeah, yeah, you know I. Mean I wasn't really GonNa Watch this. Because you know, it's like I. I kinda know everything. Let him yeah, I know about this, but then he started in on Penny. Lane it hooked me in because he started to say Oh, now bought wants to go higher, but he actually modulate down Akhi ongoing, did I? Oh, wow, that's good. I'm getting impressed by this young twenty four year. Olds work. Now I'm intrigued and he got to this story, so the said and the Penny Lane Piano. Okay I know I played. I know how that went and he said it's not just one piano and I'm sitting there going. Yeah, it is. What do you mean it's not just one and he so he starts going back to the multi tracks and he goes well. This is one piano is the yeah, that's it. He goes on then. They got this little spiky piano. And then he plays. This is very troubling. Little, Dinky counting piano, playing along with it on. He goes on them as his hall mony, and it turned out I'd forgotten, but we put all these layers into this piano. That eventually sounds like Wong very groovy piano. So much so that I believed it myself. So I went in the next day with Greg and I said why when many. So this really great idea, so we started measuring with like Harpsichord and piano on mix them and getting them very exact, so you couldn't tell it was two pianos, but it was like a hybrid. That's Kinda interesting way to work. And you've been working for. Almost a year at that point to where you going back and adding re texturing Choose. We'd been doing a bit of that anyway. Because of the rerelease of Sergeant Pepper I was inspired by how experimental we were under the inspiration of we'd had for sergeant pepper and I thought. Yeah, that's a good way to go is to just not make the same record just trying to think outside the box and think you know. What can we do? Another does crazy. And at the same time, it comes out just like a song. You know it's still in the end isn't isn't some crazy mess. It's actually penny lane. You know your day in the life. It's a proper song, but the approach was very experimental, so we'd been doing a bit of that with Greg, but once I saw that program about it. We then started to pick apart some of the stuff. We done made pianos consisting of a few things instead of just the piano. With there any particular tracks you remember that you began to to rewire this way I think the track the the opening track the opening song I. I don't know I think we cook the piano a bit and also. We can. Cause, what was nice was I'd played in assert key. And Song along with what I was finding. The volk was a little bit too high. And I was just GONNA struggle with. Greg a good produces. Why don't we just take it down? If easy to sing. And, what was cool about it? Was the piano already played now? Got A, little bit darker. And it actually is a bit one of his sounds I think I heard it on the Adele hello. Listen to that Hanoi This is more greg tricks you know. But it happened anyway to us like the sound of the piano. We were experimenting Israel and the thing is you know it keeps it really interesting. She go in each day and instead of thinking or go to do this song. Overdo it good. That'd be a bit of their, but mainly it'll whatever don't do it good. We'll around. You know we'll get something that excites us will put a crazy sound on. Yeah, I can send back. Still. Math we did a lot of that in the Beatles I mean. John was particularly fond of pudding. An Echo. When he was doing the vocal. What we call the ball GEICO and Liverpool bog means the toilet in on going to bulk on the toilet, traditionally good acoustic, so we would call this little delay on the vocal sound the ball Geico. Gives you a little bit different feeling than when you're just hearing your own voice, plain and straightforward. It's like your eldest. was somebody where crazy sound on his voice gene. Gene Burns. You know whatever the sounds like y'all rock idols so inspires your little bit. You know it's interesting. You mention the darker sound that Greg brought to that. And then you talk about John's experimentation because John was sometimes the one bringing in the darker energy, the slight. Darkness of like it's getting better all the time. It couldn't couldn't get much worse. Yeah, that's the fan. Edition that. That just. ADDS a different shadow. Yes, that's true. I mean we all brought that you know this is the thing what happens, you know over time. Things become legendary, so you'll get. John was the dark one. Pose the Q. One and that's not true. Because, we each had a bit of. That or the other so George could be very much the wandered. Bring that in, but you know what I'm talking about. It I was used that example of the song getting better I go getting better all the time and jungles code and get much worse, so you know that's a good example of how he would do that, but often it could George do just as much as John would and I think you know I would sometimes take John Songs and darken them I mean come together was a very jolly little song when John brought it in, and it was like no. We're not GONNA do that, says seventeen year old you. Suit. Yeah, Oh, WE WANNA swamped it out. Man, so that's the point in case were. Johnson was reported table to go. To the pool and We had those kind of influences on each other, but the story sticks. The John was the dark on I was the light on George was the mystic one. You know and some degree. That's true, but we each had. Aspects of all those kind of forces and ring or to you know he would come in sort of. Put some drumming on it to where we like. WHOA I mean I had the song get back I'm just going to get back, don't you? Back and he comes. On that Trombley makes that record. We're all four corners of a square the Beatles. It was a very democratic group, so we all brew ideas in. Maybe John and I wrote. Most of the songs with George wrote some of the best songs. You know like something. You know some of those songs. He wrote so fantastic and with this idea of. Homes, on. The? Legends that stick and what we might be missing will soon hear the fifty anniversary box set of the white album. Yeah, what surprises are in store for us? So the legend of course is that this is where things get difficult. There's a lot of tension during these sessions that are spread over I. Think five months or so and. Sometimes, the group is recording as individuals rather than as a group. Is The legend. They are true or do you remember those sessions differently you know the thing is because it was towards the end of the Beatles all the forces that were later going to break the Beatles up, which is mainly business to tell you the truth. There was a lot of arguing about business and we didn't like. We'd always traditionally just left to someone else, but it got a bit dangerous to do. And that someone else was different somewhere else actually was about to nick it all so that. Is the period after Brian Epstein's death at the start of Apple Award. Referring to is Allan. Allen Klein you. Got Dangerous WHO's an idea that he was maybe going to. Take over and take over all the money, and all the stuff that we'd have done announced that made it a difficult period, but you know the great thing was when we got in the studio. It all changed because we were just these four guys again. And it wasn't to do. Business is now to do music, and so sometimes we did record separately. I would do blackbird, but only because it's a solo song. I did yesterday and I said an okay guys. What are you going to do on this? And they also will we can't. It's a solo song you know. It wasn't because we were arguing some of the great songs like she's so heavy johns I mean we all got ride in the? There's no. We were peace when we were playing music. In the studio, it was always a thrill from the word. Go when the Beatles who formed to word. Stop you know. We always got in the studio and even if we're arguing. That kind of got superseded by the music. And you know we argued like families argue I mean in the early days. It was always John George arguing about who would obviously I'm loudest. Degree, okay, look you, we go. Joe Let's put it at seven. Okay, put it seven, and then you re be playing into. Just see George. GonNa back. His own go nine. Unin John Noticed. Who He'd quietly sneaked autism ten. You. Then, that would go, hey. You got. Mike Argument, but other than the you know. When we played music, it came good. We're not going to keep you any longer. It is almost time to I'm going to mispronounce this, but they're going macho. Chow Yup. They used to say in in Germany. I remember the guy's name. Villi? Ca Shifts for like the manager. Of the the Little Club, we I played. And he used to come. Out. We tried to will very good mucky show. Make Show in Germany and make a show into him. But, sometimes as people in the audience hold sign of. So, it's stuck. There, we are under that is I. Do have to go. Thank you so much. Thanks very much for jets in. Inside the studio is an iheartradio original podcast. This episode was written and hosted by me. Joe Levy we'd like to give a big. Thank you to Paul McCartney N. Capitol Records. You can follow inside the studio on Iheartradio or you can subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Hello, good people. The planet earth always good to talk to you out there in the universe, known universities. What's again? This is captain Keith and listening to state media concerts music podcasts and on deck. Today we have little Wayne. The Carter five, Paul McCartney with Egypt station and which profit with the goal knocked of you go here palm rock and roll and some soul. All righty. So let's start off with, you know, Mr. wheezy himself. Mr. Dwayne Carter a little Wayne. His new album has long Pated record. The Carter five. Got a picture. The cover art has his mom and him on the front, and she's young and she's standing and they'll Wayne's right in front of cute little shirt on his hand in his mouth afro. And of course, this guy his trademark little tattoos on his forehead, which I'm sure he didn't have the baby, but he loves to do that with this covers well, okay. Whatever that's about. So I'll. But yeah, it's it's a classic low cover the to say that classic cover, so there it is. And it's like a red and black kind of background. So let's get to it. So the Carter five is low. Wayne's twelfths to your album. It was originally planned to be released and two thousand thirteen as well of may. Two thousand fourteen October twenty eight th two thousand fourteen in December two thousand fourteen, but it was held back due by cash money label, head Bergman way. One off label after Burt reportedly violated the contract's terms. Regarding the album. Wayne eventually won the lawsuit on June six, two thousand eighteen this year. Okay, so this album's long overdue. Okay. So September two thousand eighteen athletes started promoting the Carter five through the Instagram accounts by posing a photo of the letter. The Roman numeral v for five and kind on the we's birthday. Also timber twenty. Fifth. Looks like it was announced in a video that the album would be released on his birthday, September twenty. Seventh of this year though the promo says it would be released, September twenty. Eighth due to coming out at twelve am a out to the was also put up on the Carter. The Carter five of the Carter v dot com. In two thousand thirteen. The Wayne said that the Carter five would be his last album, but in an interview with MTV, however, in two thousand and his two thousand eighteen interview with, excuse me, excuse me back. He said that to MTV, however, in two thousand eighteen this year and billboard magazine easy was asked about retirement and his answer was this quote I do. I do think about retirement. I think about how I don't think I ever will quote unquote. Okay. So that's a little synopsis on the Carter five little background story about this record. Let's get into the review. So the first track on the album is it's called, I love you Wayne and which features low winds mother speaking about how blessed and grateful she has to have a little Wayne where she calls him Dwayne, that's his real name as a son. She also talks about how everyone always asked her when is when his son's next record coming out. You know, which makes sense. You know. Her son has a lot of fans. So she does. She know that she loves him very much and it's very proud of the man that he has become. There is no music on this track. Just the compelling voice of wines mom speaking to about her son. So we start the album off with his mom, something myself. Okay, this is cool. I can get it back and dig it. You know, we all love moms, so no respect. So then the next track on this record is called, don't cry in his featuring extension out extensive Yonne from Santa's name, right? The rapper. That's the deceased rapper previously. Passed away. And it starts off with the synthesizer playing like a subtle flute rhythms, and you can hear low away in the background for a quick moment before the song goes to full trap music with the bass and drums, and you know, extension seems, to course. Don't cry. So at the base and keys navigate the song, the trap drums and bass are slow pace with atmospherics in the background. The song's about little reflecting on his mortality, so, and you know. It's cool, and it's interesting to hear him do that because you know the first rappers to really roundabout their metality, you know, talk about death where really, you know, big into POC in the nineties. I mean, other rappers may have kind of glossed over it, but no parking biggie. I mean, that was something that was definitely on their mind which is kind of interesting and strange for young men in their twenties, but it isn't. It's not. It's kind of that's kind of complicated because in the nineties, a lot of young black men in America were told that the average blackmail would not live to get past the age of twenty five. So if you're a rapper and the nine is in your blackmail in the nineties and your and your twenties, you know, that's going to kind of follow you mess with you because nobody else is saying about any other males to tick into country. So just the very fact that that was an issue. That was stated that was on record reported as a statistic is just deeply disturbing problematic in itself. Was that say about a society that you live in when people from your culture are targeted that way? So you know, talked about it and definitely big, talked about it even more. I mean, come on his. You know, life after death. Mean there it is, I mean, doesn't get any more surreal more than that. So, yeah, Wayne talking about his mortality about dying. You know, it does bring you back to that. So let's just kind of fascinating. 'cause I wasn't expecting that. You know, off of from the beginning of album. Not at all skewed me soil life after death because that's the second record. But so big is first album. Of course, everyone knows ready to die. So yeah, this rapper was that, you know, yeah, death is on my mind. I mean, if you call your first album, the die. I mean that says a lot. So it's a classic record. So as to death came up posting after he died, of course, double album. The ready ready to die, has a cover of big little baby sitting with afro looking into last smiling, so very powerful imagery. So, yeah, so low mind song don't cry. Like I said, it's about mortality feels that death may be around the corner. He questions his life in general from where he's been to where he may be going as an m. c. n. as a man. So he's partners things. He talks about death and rebirth from death and religious aspects of it. He also raps on humility and Tout's being God-given while conceit self driven. Those were Wadsworth actually, wise words actually, yes, definitely. So unlike that, here's some lyrics from the song cry and I like the song I do. Yeah, Carter five c extents, Yang don't cry. Don't go, he sings and he sinks, and his voice is very haunting. When he thinks it won't lie. I freaking love you. Well, censor the lowland staring into the clouds and my rising. Or they come in down. I see death around the corner and the u-turn signs looking like a smile. What do I do now who go find me how nowhere to term, but around and round. Just another brother sensor that Dan lost his head. No, a freaking king that forgot his crown. I am not. Number one. It's true. I am number nine twenty seven eighty two his birthday. Okay, colorblind. Even if I may be blue a lot of my plate eight my favorite food, but I'm hungry. So hungry me and my family tree next to a money tree with a bunch of leaves in the garden of Eden with a bunch of ease. No fruit punch for me. I sip from the fountain of youth. So if I die young blend, the juice bury me in New Orleans. Tombstone reads, don't cry. Stay tuned me back to life. Got to lose a life just to have a life, but of heavens as good as advertise. I want a triple extension on my mother Levin afterlife rest paradise sonata. You know, accidents, you know. Don't cry, don't cry. Don't cry. Don't go Wia. Why won't lie? I freaking love. You don't cry. Don't cry. Don't cry. Don't go while. Why won't? Why don't cry. Don't cry. African love. You don't cry. Talent is God given be grateful, famous, NADA given be humble and can seat itself driven drive, carefully, stay in your own lane, see buckled. And sometimes when there is no music between our own horns Romblom that woman carried the future and Tunisia was born like Dun Dun Dun Dun. Don't call it a comeback. It was dark. Now the some back, hit me heart, but I punched back. The wheels fell off. I wrote the hubcap. Is it suicide or is, or is it do? A die is newer days and his plur skies. I told myself, it's just you and I, then the breeze came in, blew my mind. Lord knows who I am their excuse me, Lord knows who I'm there for. I give my last breath of air for momma. Tell me to be careful. Voice in my head, give me an earful, but I got my control over my control. I lost control, but knew I'd find control. I let guy control the what I cannot control can't control the tears that dropping role. Then she on little Wayne, don't cry, don't cry on crying moans that he moans that you're just like is very, it's very soulful compelling when you him seeing that, so won't lie, don't cry, freaking love. You triple you triple extension on my mother, love and afterlife rest and paradise don't cry, don't cry. Don't cry. Don't go while awhile. Why won't lie freaking love. You don't cry, and then the show is little, don't cry. Stay tuned and triple essentially on my mother Levin afterlife recipe paradise. So by the way, a little was able to. To. Get triple extensions. From his musicale able to get on the record it and to add him to his song so seamlessly. So triple stents. Yon, never even had any idea that he was going to be on little Wayne track, but I'm sure you know. You know life, he's happier about it so so next song with Huck about his caught. What about me feature in Sosa mound. From Santa, right? Yeah, starts off with sounds from the ocean. The next sound is the lighting of a cigarette or something to that effect, low wing star, seeing his voice has an auditor. In fact, on the Trat base in jumps have a muted effect to them banker. The song the production is atmosphere can airy. There's plenty of room to breathe on this track at low Wayne does just that on this track. This track is one of my favorite tracks on this record, low wing sings, only on this track. So he's not just singing. My only complaint on this track is the auto tune. He actually doesn't need it so Samir rhymes on the second verse, actually. So he's the one who rhymes on this track. He uses the tune as well and his round conveys the same set him as though Wayne in regards his girlfriend. So talk about what the song's about the song's about little Wayne, not being over ex girlfriend who is now with other men and not him. He can't get over her. He's upset because he gave her everything should have them other dudes. Anyway, low Wayne is left. Asking the question, what about me. And somehow I think so many men on this world have asked that question, and there are probably a lot of women who have to so there it is. What about me. Here's. If you saw me, would you understand that I can't stand you with another man? I see you happy where your life is at. I see you smile. I can't live with that and then the course, because what about me? Yeah, I stayed up all night for you girl girl. What about me? Yeah, shut down my life for you. Now you run around with him and him and him. How do you do that? How you out? Like I never held you every night and now you never call back, please girl girl. What about me. And then verse one is that was like the course. All right. Oh, tell me, do you ever think about it those lonely nights when you lost it? Oh, the only time that you would call which just to tell me it's my fault. Oh. I'll let you cry. I let you worry and more from the song and the rest of little with you. After this break, find out the color you ac- onto embroi- lag lag. I would partake in this, hey, we have been. We've. We've. Alexa play Arianna 'Grande. Okay. With Amazon music of all, you need get tens of millions of songs, download the Amazon music app today. Always on the go. But the day just be more without your Hollywood foot Golden State media concepts that are ten podcast. Take care of that and all inclusive look of pop culture. Welcome back to state media concepts. Podcast should catch and keep doing that little lane review for the Carter five. What about me. Once again, we're back to concepts was reading lyrics from what about me. Let's continue with that. But about me from the awakens, the Carter five? Yes, yes, yes. Featuring extensively on this track, singing the hook. That's pretty good. Actually. I'm gonna have to check out of stuff now. So I let you yell. I'll let you hurt me. Oh, I give you everything. You need it. Now you've gone gone gone. Tell me how you do that to me. Yeah. Then of course girl. What about me? I stayed up all night for you. Yeah, girl girl. What about me? Yeah, girl. What about me? I shut down my life for you. I should that my life. Now you want around with him and him and him how you do that. Oh, how you like? I never hill you every night. Now you never call back, please. Please girl girl. What about me? Oh, girl, girl girl. What about me? I'm enjoying reading that I I am because it almost sounds like little ways like it's almost like a temptation song or something. I like all our Rb crooner type of name like baby, please. Please baby please. I love it. So Sosa man comes in Rams verse. Second verse. Didn't think about me when I'm flying OT. I bet a be up in the streets. He told me that you go and leave hit my phone with the beep, boom, knock it, knock it out baby creep. Oh, 'cause I just wanna. See, you smile didn't other than tears ain't for you. Did none of them tears for you? Baby and they matching your style? I'm kickin flav with your sauce. I'm cutting them lovers. I'm thinking about you and all of the things that we used to do this. You went through. I don't want you with no. Other do. Yeah. And then the chorus is little and Sosa man girl. What about me? Yeah, girl. What about me? Oh, I stayed up all night for you. Sit up all night. Oh, girl girl. What about me? What about meager? Yeah. What about me? Girl? I should down my life for you. I shutdown my life. Now you went around with him and him and him. How do you do that? How girl how you never hell you every night and now you never call back, please. Please. Girl girl. What about me me? Yeah. What about me? Oh. That was fun. That was fun. So the next tracking one talk about called open letter. It starts off with faint, strings, and keys. In the background. You can hear the sound of someone writing on paper as if the writing a letter. The writing on paper gets louder. Lo Wang clears throat and starts to run the kick drum hits twice. And then the snare comes in the kick John disappears at the middle of the at the middle of the song and gets replaced by trap base that plays the same pattern. There's a slight variation to it here and there, but for the most part, the track base in drummer them, it's consistent an this song, the songs open letter that low Wayne is writing to his friends and family. He discusses how sometimes he doesn't feel his own self worth. He wonders is about his death, basically questioning his Motala once again, recurring thing he stays that if he gets killed, he wants his debt to have a meaning. Which is morbid, but okay, he wants to make sure that his kids know how much he loves them. He lost for love. And lost it the song's about low feeling empty inside. He just having more sex with women versus making love to them. He also believes that people care more about what he has than who he actually is. Yeah, yeah, I can see that. Unfortunately, low wing also addresses having suicidal thoughts and what what is true purpose for him? He also that life of a rap star is an always pretty on the song. The Wang gives off the impression that he can feel death all around him, and that is causing him to be more suffer -flective about who he really is the end. The song has low. Wayne's mother talking about how good a father she thinks he is to his children, and she talks about how the song you know when his wife told that they're having this, she was pregnant. His mom's like we all still young, just just be a good father, but you know that you both of young. So she's basically saying you guys are really young to be doing this, so we'll see what happens but focus on being parents. This is definitely one of my favorite song. I like it. I like often letter because definitely from the heart. It's very sincere. So his lyrics. Sometimes I feel like I crap sometimes brother feel like crap talking about some real life crap. Goodbye letter, dear life, crap. So if a brother killed me, hope he mean it. I hope I die for a reason. They probably won't miss me. They need me have problems with with emitting. They need me Laura, I'm I'm talking about some real life crap. Goodbye letter, dear life, crap way too concern to be conceited. I live and I learned then died trying to teach him, Laura died trying to reach him the care more about how much I leave him, what leave it. I hope I leave more of an impression on my kids to be destined to have blessings to believe in law. Just go off the phone with my just Lord. Just got off the phone with my son told him you're a son of a gun. Just out the phone with my daughter told her, I won't hesitate to mess up your brother up to messy by the sensor. Of course, Lord a few. Ladies left me where we can say he or the other sensors, which is left me now only got a new which elected my old, which was to was to disrespect and only give me new, which respect that's power. Yes. So now we're next can't lie though. I tried. I'll die trying. That's a common day. We was such a team. We was chasing dreams. Then stop. Now I'm out of breath. Now they try to tell me I need west and I'll find love again. I find it yet. Oh, but I guess it is what it is as it appears crap. The the mirror is more than is more near than it appears okra sometimes I fear who in the mirror that brother we're, he done die so many times, but still here, why am I here do alive live what is my meaning? My reason naked, which is really loved ones. Sometimes I loved ones don't love us. I'm freaking more than make. I'm screwing more than I'm making love. Sometimes I make my rubber ware rubber dam. Never heard that one before that's risen online right there. I just tell my lady, nothing's easy. Even though I make it look easy. But understand, looks are deceiving looking like I'm looking for some grievance because I've been through way too much. Don't wanna think about it. Cranky bought it. Got a drink about it. Got a synchronized tranquilize doctor prescribing where he ain't realizing pain aside. Got me. Thinking about me trying to hate my body sanctifying, I'm against the dying because all gangsters die. I can't deny. You can't tame my lying. I'm angry Lyon hanging by a stream. I can't describe it. Feel like an anchor tied to my finger got me singing to the bottom of my drink, and a lot of brothers think I got a lot of brothers, their strengthened numbers, but there's honor over strength. I talked to guy the other day. He said he got her brother, so I look death up in her eye. Wink. It's way to reel the crap. I'm talking way way to real. I hope it gave you chills the under your feet could be the grave. You feel you don't know how did you feel to your dead for real getting high after. I paid the Bill lower than ABC will show up with the maybe guns. I hope somebody praying for him price tag, no mistake somebody paying for him. I spat with my face numb, no expression was the life expectancy when you don't expect crap, mama told me, screw the world and be so aggressive, be still fluorescent, watch those watchos hose. 'cause they saw obsessive. I don't get to hire to look over blessings, never come in second, make the most of your seconds. They so precious because if we could buy time every store would sell it, it's true. If you want me to read your mind new, correct spelling, I keep it real. Keep better. Brothers better. Keep a Cup of static. Whether we feel like getting, I feel like I'm getting. So excuse me, where we, I feel like I'm getting sober headache looking in the mirror, the one that know me better. I was too busy to talk. I wrote an open letter, their life. What is my meaning? My reason that's the question I asked the reader, God bless the reader life. What is my meaning? My reason best to question and just see. The Carter is always mom and she says it and the song you know when he told me to, I was having a baby. I say, y'all young, you know, y'all young, but I said, be the best five. You can't be, you know. And truly he is that. So there you go. So long. The Carter five is an album that definitely reads like inclusion of low Wayne's autobiography. So it has themes. So I like that part. I like that concept. It's definitely real. There was nothing about listening to this record that didn't feel offensive to me. It has things on death, pain, fear, love, fear, love lost. Family fame isolation, religion, philosophy, and love. I appreciate his honesty and candor on this record in regards to Hello Wayne is and where he is coming from. What I don't like is all is, is the all too easy and predictable, misogyny that still permeates throughout the record. I'll never understand how hip hop artists and of course not all of them came praise the mothers and daughters and still call women. You know, the b- were throughout most of their records on every other track. It dilutes your artistry and is regressive the Sauza like on the like a lot. But the signs that I don't like I because they're too excessive and ego massaging knee and braggadocio. The album is too long as well. Twenty three songs is too much unless you intend unless you intend for it to be a double album. Then that's a different story. On a scale of one to ten, with ten being the best and one being the worst, I get us out of five and a half. My favorite songs are don't cry featuring extend can't be broken dark side of the moon featuring Nicki Nash. That's a great song. She sings that song. She sounds great. It's like a love song about being an outer space. It's pretty cool. So I get. So what about me? I know a love that one open letter. I love famous and that features. Lil Wayne's daughter singing, forgot to write her name down his regime regime Carter and she sounds great. She sings that song on famous problems is good. Mess is good and let it all work out. Featured Sampha a sample for him. That's really good. I like that as well. So there it is. If you're if you're a fan little Wayne, he doesn't disappoint. My thing is though is just like how with every genre when you're when you start with an artist and you see how you there with them and you watch them grow. Like for example, accurate member when prince was only on urban radio, and I remember watching his transformation and watching this transcendent where he surpassed that and he and the whole world fell in love with him. I watched. I watch us beginning I watch. I wash his his, his growth, his future and his end. I, I was a witness to it, you know, to my life, he's one of those artists. So now we have rappers doing that and when you know your rap, you know when you know some of your favorite MC's are getting older, you don't want them wrap. They're still in the twenties. If you're in your late thirties, forties, and you're wrapping you still have that mainstream era, or you still had that talent to to execute your artistry musically. Our know what you like now, and he gave us half of that or maybe or maybe more than half of that. But some of the stuff is just a cliche now in his redundant and lyrically just needs to grow. And that's probably like one of my biggest frustrations with hip commercially speaking today is that lyrically has asthma chew as should be. Which is one of the reasons why you never hear people care as one and Chuck d on the radio, mainstream wise because lyrically they've, you know, they volved passed so many emcees. They're consistent and you see their lyrical growth. They didn't have much to grow on, but you see that arch, you see it and he just goes, they elevate it. They said a standard there has not been reached by most mainstream rappers. So you know, emcees male and female. Two thousand eighteen let go the b word. Let that go. Let go that misogyny. You know, you have female MC's using that word to and it can be just as a massage mystic as the mail sees and once again now all MC's that way. So don't get it twisted. But that's that's what lyrically holds back up in my opinion. And that regard get past that there's so many things that you know you can talk about if you're someone in your twenties or or your. Teens and your rhyming. I want to know about your life. Sure. And where your head is, if you're in your forties, fifties in your rhyming is not as good. I want to know what your head but lyrically you should have grown. You shouldn't be talking about the same exact thing and you know there's too many emcees right now who are guilty of that is not just one, you know, immigrate him see, he's guilty of that as well, but he's a great emcee, but you get past that, you know. So. After this break, we'll talk about the next review, which is Paul McCartney right with each station. 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And when the bills broke Ecorse, he formed wings. Really good group silly love songs. You know, simply having a for Christmas time living, let died jet goodstuff. Paul McCartney is always like a pod genius. He might have been the king of poppy for Michael. And of course they collaborated together to the girl is mine and say. And now with Mr. Serpa McCarthy, he. Has no amount Egypt station. This is a seventeenth solo album. Still Osceola record spiky records and September of this year. It's produced by Greg. Kirsten. I, with the exception of one track produced by Ryan Tetter. Is McCartney's first release since two thousand thirteen knew the items. I double a side single consisting of two sauce. I don't know. Come onto me released June of this year. The name Egypt station is shared by one of McCartney's paintings from nineteen eighty eight from which the cover art is derived. It becomes his first number one album. The United States since nineteen eighty two tug of war. And as I today atop the billboard, two hundred. And yeah, so this painting? Okay. Egypt station. And you see under the word, each station is like two paramedics once more than. To the left the left pyramid smaller than right pyramid, and there's two palm trees. One tall. The left one is taller than the wanted to write the palm tree, and there's like a ram. Like on this on this might be on the station, and there's like a yellow background is a little pain. It's hard to describe but, but his def, definitely. I catching. So the first track is called opening station and it's instrumental. You can hear the sound of a train station in the choir and background harmonizing, and then that sound fades out. Then it goes into the next track, which is, I don't know. So now I don't know, starts off with an acoustic piano, sound soft and sweet in acoustic guitar plays with them. In the background, the piano rhythm changes. Paul McCartney stars to sing the drums kick in the same time. He starts his opening verse faint, baseline kicks him behind his vocals, the drums basic kick drum snare. Drum pattern, the jumps piano anchor, the song acoustic guitar fades back in towards the end of the song, the percussion vary vary eights. At the end of the song. You can hear a Tiffany sound towards the end of the drummer. This this sound, the sound gives the song like a climax finality to it at the end. Gets more dynamic to the song. The song about circum- McCartney's. Him question has life is one of those rare moments where things have not been going right, and he knows it has something to do with him, but he can't figure out what's wrong on his end. He has loved his life and he knows that she's not the problem and whatever the pain is. He will bear in protect her from it. He also that he is fire from learning about life's lessons. His self reflection drives him to ask what's wrong with me. His only answer is I don't know. So here's some lyrics often that song. I got crows at my window dogs at my door. I don't think I can take anymore. What am I doing wrong? I don't know. My brother told me life's night. A pain got was right when it started to rain, where am I going wrong? I don't know, but it's all right, snoop tight. I will take the strain. You're fine. Love of mine. You will feel no pain. Well, I see trouble at every turn. I've got so many lessons to learn. What am I doing wrong? I don't know now what's the matter with me? Am I right? Am I wrong? Now? I started to see. I must try to be strong. I try to love you best as I can, but you know what? Excuse me, but you know that I'm only a man. Why am I going wrong. I don't know. Yeah, no. In the course, but it's all right, sleep tight. I will take the strain. Yeah, you're fine. Little love of mine. You will feel no pain. I got crows at my window and dogs at my door. I don't think I can take any more. What am I doing wrong? I don't know. Now, what's the matter with me? I don't know. I don't know what's the matter with me. I don't know. I don't know what's the matter with me. I don't know. I don't know. I like that song because you hardly ever hear Paul McCartney sing about sadness. You know, so change of pace, it's cool. It's a good song. I like it. Happy with you. Well, my favorite songs to start off with acoustic guitar and like a metronome foot, tapping the base German flu kicking while Pallestinian the Coosa Qatar is the anchor for this song. At the midway point, a snare drum roll is at into the foot, tapping percussion. The base is in the background playing single note rhythms Pomme carton ads is vocal, percussion to the mix and whisper like chirping sound so. Let me say again, that's about to fast Paul McCartney at his own vocal percussion to the mix and whisper like Chirpin. So the song's about him reminiscing about his past with all the crazy things that he used to do in his youth, like getting stoned all the time. It's also about him being happy with his current relationship and not having the need to do the crazy paints used to do in his past because he's older more mature now. And yes, this is my favorite songs on the album. I like it. It's kind of funny. Here's the lyrics. I sat around all day are used to get stoned like to get wasted. But these days I don't because I'm happy with you. I got lots of good things to do. Oh, yeah. I walked around angry. I used to feel bad, but nowadays my days they don't have to be sad because I'm happy with you. I got lots of good things to do who. Yeah, his, the bridge like here, the high clear Robinson Walker blue, Bill carpet, watch the children playing games, catch a moon and drop it hit the gentle mantle role on a frosty morning. See the mighty ocean break, like a sailor's warning. I used to drink too much forgot to come home. This third verse, I lie to my doctor, but these days I don't because I'm happy with you. I got lots of good things to do. Oh, yeah. Second bridge, throw a pocket full of coins. Trevy fountain scene is coal running stream. Rushing down the mountain here, a newborn baby lamb calling for its mother, watching not at friends, loving one. Another. I sat around all day a like to get stoned. I used to get wasted, but these days I don't because I'm happy with you. Got lots of good things to do. Yeah. Happy with you. I'm happy with you. Happy with you right on. I did not know what to expect from this album, but I was pleasantly surprised. The next track is called, who cares starts off with distorted guitar intro and drumsticks hitting together on the rim. Electric guitar, bass, and drums kick in the Qatar. Rhythm has a little bit of a country twang to it. The drums keep a steady and basic beat kicked sneer back and forth. The baseline is more prevalent on the song than any others on the album. It actually matches most of the rhythm. Guitar phrasing the drums and rhythm guitar navigate the song. The base has a firm cooling a rolling sound throughout the song. This song's about anyone who's ever felt picked on for whatever reason. It's about brushing off the negativity of other people. In other words, ignoring the haters. Circolo saying. If you find yourself dealing with bullying air net trolls, whether it's on the internet or in person and you wanna anybody cares what you're going through. He's letting you know that he does this song very positive and encouraging that way. The song is very point. The song is very point today, especially from Lenny owes. It's one of my favorite song album. I haven't already said that here's the lyrics. What's he gonna says, who cares. A one, a two? Oh, yeah, that she ever get hurt by the worst people say and the things that they do when they're picking on you that she ever get sad by the games that people play. Excuse me. Okay. Let me he. Did you ever get set by the games that they play when they're making you feel like a rusty old wheel, and of course, is been left in the rain. Who cares what the idiots say, who cares? What the idiots do, who cares about the pain in your heart? Who cares about you. I do and the bridges. 'cause you're worth much more of that. You can be sure no need to hide the love. You've gotten side. Did you ever get lost in the heart of a crowd and the people around keep on pushing you down is driving, you mad, you're screaming out loud and you're wondering who's going to recognize you in the choruses. Your ghost in the dark. Who cares what the idiots say, who cares? What the idiots do, who cares about the painting, your heart, who cares about you. Who cares what the idiots say, who cares what the idiots do, who knows about the painting, your heart, who cares about you. I do. You've been left in the rain. So that's the only thing I love the song. I love the lyrics, but that last verse that last line, you been them the rain. I mean, the song is very uplifting and positive is very supportive, nurturing and encouraging. But that last. Verse, I'm dislike. I feel like doesn't end the song on a positive note. It's kinda ends back on the sat because he wants to be left in the rain, right? I know. I know they must be left at all, especially in the rain unless you like the rain. Some people are all in the internet rain. That's their thing. It's not my thing so so, but. Paul McCartney's Egypt station. So once again, we're talking about earlier in the podcast today about how. You know, you see musicians grow and you wanna be with them and see their growth. Artistically promise is showing that Paul McCartney's in the seventies and he wrote a album about how life is, and he wrote an album about what's he's going through what is all about these days? And it's great. It's a good record. This is a record with things on love, depression, reckless, youth, humor piece, global warming. Loss love and less and reassurance. This iconic Rockstars made a great album. The subject matter is all over the place just like life, and that's just the way I like it. Actually, on a scale of one to ten, with one being the worst and ten me and the best this record in eight and a half. Favorite songs are, I don't know, come onto me. Happy with you who cares for you? That's FU age actually. Confidante people want peace hand in hand back in Brazil and despite repeated warnings. So yeah, Paul McCartney's intercession, pick it up eight and a half out of ten. And you'll see a ten when every song is I feel like, oh, I love every sinus record. I like my album. I love the album, but I don't love every song come close to it, but I just don't. So that's when you know when I do a ten review, that means every track to me slamming and that's hard and it's rare. It doesn't happen often. So, but I recommend this record. It's a good album, too great album. He's one of the best to ever do it. Paul McCartney Egypt station. So an after this break, we'll get into which profit. Her album, the golden active. Hey, DC right now at vision works all prescription eyewear. Every frame. Every brand is fifty percent off. Yup. A nifty fifty percent. Thanks to our friends and family event. What's even better? It applies to both glasses and sunglasses. That's right. At the vision works friends and family event. You can save fifty percent on all prescription eyewear. Why? Because we like DC a lot vision works. We're here to help you some restrictions apply see store for details. Won't entertainment designed just for you. Then checkout customizable streaming TV from Finnity. It makes your life simple easy. Awesome. Expended, he gives you customizable streaming TV options. Enjoy the most free shows anywhere on any device and even access your streaming apps right on your TV with x one. Good. What's Finnity dot com. A one eight hundred fifty or visit a store today to learn more restrictions, apply. TV has changed over time streaming has become the new norm. That's why Golden State media concepts, television podcast, dives headfirst to the world of cord cutting wants to be on the loop of what's hot Netflix for if it's not a preference. What about rigid shows in Hulu? We've got you covered, join us as we fill the blind and talk about movies to stream and what show you should be binging. This is the Golden State media concepts, television podcast. Once again, you're listening to Golden State media concepts. Music podcast is SHA captain Keith next on deck, which profit the golden octave. So what's cool. This is the cover art for which profits go. Active is a picture of a painting of her. And it's a portrait to it's nice painting of her. You see her she has is beautiful. Like flowing afro and the Gordon activists written on top of her head and a half of a circle. And then like from her neck down to her shoulders, he see all these different types of flowers and. On her chest in her neck covering her. It's nice. It's like a very nice, lovely painting. This is the debut album released from Toronto based singer songwriter which profit the golden active is multi layered offering Mirroring which profits, intersection, -ality, and lived experiences as an East African queer mother living in that I ended aspe- a south Cape vocal layers, loosen harmonies on a bed of hip hop jazz and sold inspired beats. That's her definition of who she is. So I figured that to you and then we'll get into what I think of everything. So the first track on this album is caught loops. It starts off with which profit harmonizing the word who who the vocals become layered a, you know. A flu is planning a background. Her vocals are double during the her course, which is I'm a time traveler, even though she has named the song loops, and maybe it's loot, you know, which is fine. It's apparently the to her next song which is called time traveler. So let's get into that. But actually before I can give you the lyrics to loops as you know, the who repeats for like six times. And then she says, what if I, what? If I told you just who I was? Who would you be more careful who knowing what I'm capable of, who who, what if I, what if I who? Then she says, I told you just who I was and the more of the who would you be more fearful. You know, the more the who knowing what I'm capable of who I'm a time traveler and the more the who am a time, traveler time travelling. Who time traveler. So. Now that song's basically saying, hey, you know what? If I showed you who who I really am. And what I can really do. You know. Would you be afraid of me. If you knew who I am, what I'm capable of the question, you know, so time travel, which is the the second track lips lease into featuring features Lido Pimenta. Pinta, right? Starts off with programming that has the jump sticks hitting on the rooms of the snares with keys in the background and a saxophone. Playing a three note rhythm that sets the pace for the song doing her versus the percussion adds another layer, and you can hear a brush stroke on symbols, type of sound. The space has a low in three note rhythm that navigates the song because Shen along with the because Shen this song is about which profit actually being a time, traveler time travelling witch who puts a spell on you so that you will fall in love with her. It's also about her contemplating whether or not she should tell you who she really is and wonder if if you would still be interested if he truly knew how powerful she really is which you run to her or wife from her. So here's the lyrics this, but if I told you just who I was, would you be more careful knowing what I'm capable of capable of know what I'm capable of. Capable of what if I told you just who I was, would you be more fearful, knowing what I'm capable of capable of know what I'm capable of capable of. I'm a time traveler from another dimension. Yes, I'm a time, traveler from nother dimension. Did I mention I put a spell on you. I put a spell on you. Spell on you. I put a spell on you. Spell on you. I put a spell on you. Spell on you. Now your mind, mind your mind, mine now you're mine. Mine your mind now you're mine. Mine mine. Now, your mind your mind? Yeah, always on your mind, I put a spell on you spent on you always on your mind. Put a spelling you spent on you. Always on your mind. I put a spell on, you spell on you. You are mine. You are mine. What if I told you just was which you'd be careful, which would be more fearful. Should you be more careful? Should you be more Phil fearful? I think not. I think so. Maybe so I think now I think not. I think so. Maybe so I think that maybe so I think so. Maybe so traveler a time, traveler, another dimension, dimension. Yeah. And we hear the song, it's just, you know. Enjoy the lyrics. The music is really good. I, I don't do it Justice, but you got to track the track lot. The next track I one talk about on this album was caught. Reprogram starts off with the pulsing base jumper cushion. Atmospherics was well, let me let me let me rephrase that. Starts off with the pulsing bass, Jim, with percussion with percussion atmospherics in the background, a three note synth arrangement. The Laura active. The jump programming has a tribal feel an old school house, music feel to it, the production, the sofa harmonious, the synthesizer slash keys and jump programming navigate the song. This is about realizing that you are in the matrix and that it's time to wake up from the disturbing dream at is keeping us asleep. Break free from the Aleutian reprogram ourselves so we can take control of our lives. This is a great sauna dance to and with meaningful lyrics. Here's a lurks. Once again, the song's called reprogram take control, take control, take intro, take control, take control, living an illusion. We think we're away, but it's just a dream illusion. We think we're awake. Think we're awake. Think we're awake. Think we're awake. They program program, they program reprogram, they program program your life. They program reprogram. They program reprogram, they program program your life. Living an illusion. We think we're awake, but it's just a dream. Living an illusion. We need to wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake, wake, wake. We need to wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake, wake wake, yeah, you get the message. She wants us to wake up. Definitely. I think it's cool that she wrote a song. That basically is based off of great. I kind of movie the matrix because even before that film came out, you know, there was always talk about what this is all the dream. What if this isn't real dreaming so for? So for somewhat to put that. Into a film. Have you seen it. To stop future. Is very intriguing. So then she goes on to say, awake, wake wake, why quake wave that repeats for a while, take control, take control, wait, wake way, way, quake, quake, take control, take control, take control, living an allusion. We think we're awake, but it's just a dream. Living an illusion. They program reprogram. They program reprogram. They program reprogram your life. They program reprogram. They program reprogram. They program reprogram your life. I mean, this is symbolic of the struggle that you have every day in life to be your own individual, not to get lost and lose your identity as a person as human being. That's that's me talking about the lyrics and every now that's the lyrics they program reprogram. They program reprogram program reprogram your life. You know, that goes off for a while. They program reprogram the program reprogram they program reprogram your life. There's remix of this onto the towards the end, which I like to take control, take control, take troll. So. I mean which profits the golden active is an album about. Wants second here. It's an album about time travel, which craft. Self realization. And actualization. Encouragement. Female empowerment. It's about a love lost on by the way. There's a video office record for her song, indigo and videos about her discovery in love again and being in love, and looking into her lover's eyes. So, yeah, the things we're talking about. So I said, what self realization and actual self actualization. Encouragement, female empowerment, love lost in love, found and rebellion. So the production on on this album is soulful organic with the house music and afro center slash psychedelic feel to it. I like it a lot. I mean, there's some hip hop elements to it as well. So for album that was like basically. Than likely may through like synthesizer synthesizers and programs, and Trump programming has still has a very organic feel to it. And I like that about this records. Very genuine. On a scale from one to ten, with one being the worst and ten being the best. I am. I give this album. Eight and a half. My favorite tracks on this record our time traveller featuring Lido opinion to wait. Are the world. Indigo manifest reprogram mirror feature. Rozina Qazi stars. Stars has a real psychedelic soul, secto soul, rob feel too. It's really chippy. It's cool. It's about being out in stars. Of course. Listen Pizren, Lucas Silveira gray song about Cochran your fears. Very uplifting. Lots of encouragement and that song mirror is about female empowerment and building. You're a bigger world around you. Listen about all of us. Kakuna fears being better from it, and then reprogram the remix about taking show that matrix. So I discovered this record actually, I'm band camp, so and to my knowledge is only available digitally. I don't see it on vinyl CD. But yeah, which profit? It's a good record. So nice, interesting. Intriguing soul record. So let's give it a eight and a half. Well, good people, the planet earth in the known universe. You've been listening to MC podcast dot com. Aka Golden State concepts. The show captain keep hope. He had a great time. I know I did our pre shit. You all thank you for listening. You guys are awesome. And, oh, next week, I plan on reviewing. The new Alison chains record? Yes, folks. I got a new. I know like what for real. The new. So Alison chains reckless call. Tell you what this call one second. Rainier fog of rainier, fog rainier Phong. That's that's. Are I? And I. So that's the new album. I'm gonna that record. We're also going to do. The newest McNamara mayor masterpiece. And that called swimming. And. Some other indie soul for you. I want to review. And artist. Her name is. Pulled up for one second. Eleven technology, loving IMDB. That's her name. Her new album is called a vying for flight mode. That's a tricky soul record India Saul. So yes, MAC Miller, but swimming, Alison chance with rainier fog, and I'm db. Vying for flight mode. So so that's next week. So once again, thanks for listening people, planet earth in the known universe, and he'll nice time, see somewhere out in space. You've been listening to the Golden State media concepts, music podcast, part of the Golden State media concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others like it at WWW dot g m c podcast dot com. Download our podcast on itunes, Stitcher sound clock and Google play just type in Jesus MC to find all the shows from the Golden State media concepts podcast network from movies to music from sports entertainment, and even we are us. 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Battle of Mabila - Oct. 18, 1540

This Day in History Class

07:30 min | 2 years ago

Battle of Mabila - Oct. 18, 1540

"Over three hundred twenty five years ago, the community of Salem, Massachusetts was rocked by something that few ever thought possible. It's been called an outbreak a wave of hysteria or the perfect storm at the confluence of seemingly unrelated ideas, events, and beliefs, whatever we try to call it though we always seem to miss the Mark. What bothers me so much so many people say how ignorant people were back. Then that's historian Emerson, Baker professor of American history at Salem state university. How could they possibly believe in witches and that they were? Well, I remember in sixteen ninety two which is were real. Everybody believed in university ministers, doctors of theology, governors pope's, which is our real, the Salem, witch trials are equal parts universally known and barely understood by most people. That's why this series exists new episodes of this twelve part series. Air every Wednesday, learn more and find links to subscribe over at history on obscure dot com. Welcome to this day in history class from how stuff works dot com. And from the desk of stuff you missed in history class. It's the show where we explore the past one day at a time with a quick look at what happened today in history. Hello and welcome to the podcast. I'm Tracy v Wilson and it's October eighteenth, but battle of mobile took place on this day in fifteen forty. This was during Spain's conquest of the Americas. And in this conquest, Spain really had multiple goals. They were looking for gold silver and other riches. They were converting the local population to Christianity and they were claiming colonial territory for the Spanish empire. Hernando does Soto had been part of the conquests in central and South America and both Nicaragua and Peru, and in fifteen thirty seven. He asked to be sent into North America to continue on with the same conquest. He had an expedition that he helped fund himself and that expedition left Spain on April seventh fifteen forty eight. They first made their way to Cuba. They stopped there to pick up supplies and they landed on the western coast of what's now Florida more than a year after. Departing from Spain, the sotos force moved inland and north, and as they did this, they became the first Europeans to make their way through what's now the southwestern United States. And really, this expedition didn't go particularly well. They had a much more formal fighting style, and that was really susceptible to attacks an ambush by the native people did things like fire at them while concealed and trees and other vegetate. And when they mitts, native people to soda, wasn't particularly kind to them. He would demand to be provided with food and labor and porters from the native population. And if the native population didn't immediately bow to these demands, he would just take the chief captive to try to force them to comply in Soto's relentless search for treasure. They also repeatedly dug up and plundered indigenous burial. Bounds in October fifteen forty two Soto met Tuscaloosa who was a powerful chief among the Mississippi and people's exactly who has people's word the cultural makeup as a little bit unclear. And we also don't know which languages they spoke amongst each other. But disodium met. Tuscaloosa has major settlement of Haci disorder demanded that Tuscaloosa provide him with four hundred porters and Tuscaloosa said that he would only do this from mobile, not from Allah hachi where they currently were so two. So do following the pattern. He had been until this point took Tuscaloosa captive. They left out of hockey on October twelfth, once they got to the town of a Bela to Soto, decided to bring all the plunder that he had gathered up until this point into the town with him. He also had guards armed with crossbows in Howard's. Tuscaloosa went into a house and he said to message to disodium that he would not travel any further with him that disodium should just go. He should leave the town and leave tusk loses territory. When one of two sotos men tried to order one of the native people to go and fetch Tuscaloosa and bring him back out. This man refused to do it. The sotos soldier responded by cutting the native man's arm off, and that's when the fighting began. It turned out that it was not porters who were waiting in Eli, it was warriors disorders force had to fight their way out of the town, but they had to leave all of those supplies and plunder behind once they were out to sotos force, set fire to the town which was surrounded by a palisade. And so all of their loot and all of their supplies burned up along with the town about three thousand people died in the battle. And the burning it may though have been as many as five. Thousand people Tuscaloosa does seem to have tried to escape, but it's almost certain that he was killed only about twenty two sodas force was killed, but more than two hundred were wounded and all of this. They also lost many of their horses. And as I said earlier, all the supplies that had been brought into the town. So does brother in law and nephew were among the people killed two Soto continued to press west. After this point insisting that he had to find gold and thinking that if you stopped the expedition. Now after this massive disaster at Mabille, it would be considered a failure. His force passed by resources and fertile land in order to make this press westward. And they finally reached the Mississippi River in fifteen forty one. They still didn't find any gold though. And he finally decided to turn back to build boats into try to use the river to reach the sea and maybe regroup and go out again from there. But instead he died before accomplishing any of that on may twenty. First of fifteen forty to his expedition had traveled almost four thousand. Miles, of course, the city of Tuscaloosa, Alabama is named for Tuscaloosa and the exact location of the town of a LA in the site of the battle isn't precisely known. Archaeologists have been searching for it and it's likely that it somewhere outside of what's now Selma, Alabama. That's one of the reasons why there are still questions about exactly who the people were that were fighting against a soda on that day. Thanks to Christopher haciendas for his research work on today's episode and Tari Harrison audio work on this podcast. You can subscribe to this day in history class on apple podcasts, Google podcasts, and wherever else get your podcast and you can tune in tomorrow for a revolution. I'm Joey back again with inside the studio iheartradio's original podcast featuring intimate conversations with some of music's biggest stars. This time around we decamped to Winnipeg to catch up with an upstart named Paul McCartney, Sir. Paul touches on everything from the Beatles onstage volume wars to the making of his new album. Egypt station on capitol records is what was children. George of whom about who would have is I'm glad they degree. Okay. Look list, put it seven into just see Jewish back to his own and go nine. And then John Reid, quietly, sneak tools, ISM. Well, what are you doing. When we played music, it came good for more great conversations like this search and follow inside the studio on iheartradio. I subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

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GSMC Entertainment Podcast Episode 83: Kimye' in Africa, Ariana Grande Breakup

GSMC Entertainment Podcast

1:05:33 hr | 2 years ago

GSMC Entertainment Podcast Episode 83: Kimye' in Africa, Ariana Grande Breakup

"How do you feel about your office? Is it just a space for your company, or is it a space to help you grow your company from new HQ? Two satellite offices with we work. You can find a space that works for you. Visit Weadock. Oh, slush space matters to learn more. Want to know the latest and hot as music hidden in the airwaves don't be left out. Listen to the Golden State media concepts. Music podcast g keeps you on the loop with everything you need to know from rock hiphop top flooring, and we'll throw a news of your favorite artists concert and tour dates and so much more listen, no further because this is the gold standard in music podcasts. Greetings good people on the planet earth in the known universe. You're listening to Golden State media concepts, music podcast. This is your captain Keith. Yes. Hello, good people. The planet earth always good to talk to you out there in the universe known universities. What's this is captain Keith, and you're listening to state media concerts music podcasts and on deck today we have local Wayne Carter five. Paul McCartney with Egypt station and which profit with the gold knocked of you go here palm rock and roll and some soul. All righty. So let's start off with, you know, Mr. wheezy himself. Mr. Dwayne Carter a little Wayne. His new album has long Pated record. The Carter five. It's got a pitcher, the cover art has his mom and him on the front, and she's young and she's standing and they'll Wayne's right in front of cute little shirt on his hand in his mouth afro. And of course, this guy his trademark little tattoos on his forehead, which I'm sure he didn't have is the baby, but he loves to do that with his covers. Well, okay, whatever that's about. So I'll. But yeah, it's it's a classic lowland cover the outer, say that classic cover, so there it is and it's like a red and black background. So it's a skit to it. So the Carter five is low. Wayne's twelfths to your album. It was originally planned to be released and two thousand thirteen as well of may. Two thousand fourteen twenty eight two thousand fourteen in December two thousand fourteen, but it was held back due by cash money label head Bergman as way. One off label after Burt may reportedly violated the contract's terms. Regarding the album. Wayne eventually won the lawsuit on June six, two thousand eighteen this year. Okay, so this album's long overdue. Okay. So September two thousand eighteen athletes started promoting the Carter five through the Instagram accounts by posing a photo of the letter. The Roman numeral v for five and kind on easy's birthday off timber, twenty. Fifth. Looks like it was announced in a video that the album would be released on his birthday, September twenty. Seventh of this year though the promo says it would be released on September twenty eighth due to coming out at twelve am a out to the was also put up on the Carter, the Carter five or the Carter v dot com. In two thousand thirteen said that the Carter five would be his last album, but in an interview with MTV, however, in two thousand and two thousand eighteen interview. Excuse me, excuse me back. He said that to MTV, however, in two thousand eighteen this year and billboard magazine was asked about retirement and his answer was this quote I do. I do think about retirement. I think about how I don't think I ever will quote unquote. Okay. So that's a little synopsis on a little car. Defy the background story about this record anonymous, get into the review. So the first track on the album is it's called, I love you, Dwayne, and which features low winds mother speaking about how blessed and grateful she has to have low Wayne where she calls him Dwayne, that's his real name as a son. She also talks about how everyone always asked her when is, when is her son's next record coming out, which makes sense. You know. Her son has a lot of fans. So she does. She know that she loves him very much and it's very proud of the man that he has become. There is no music on this track. Just the compelling voice of low wines moms speaking to about her son. So we start the album with his mom. So I'm thinking myself, okay, this is cool. I can. I can dig it. We all love moms, so no respect. So then the next track on this record is called, don't cry in his featuring extending out extending own from Santa's name, right? The rapper. That's the deceased rapper previously passed away. And it starts off with the synthesizer playing like a subtle, flute rhythms. And you can hear little background for a quick moment before the song goes into full trap music, MO with the bass, and drums. And you know, extension on since the course. Don't cry. So the base and keys navigate the song. The trap drums and bass are slow pace with atmospherics in the background. This song's about little reflecting on his mortality, so, and you know. It's cool, and it's interesting to hear him do that because you know the first rappers to really roundabout metality, you know, talk about death where really, you know, big into POC in the nineties. I mean, other rappers may have kind of glossed over it, but no park and biggie. I mean, that was something that was definitely on their mind which is kind of interesting and strange for young men in the twenties, but it isn't. It's not. It's kind of that's kind of complicated because in the nineties, a lot of young black men in America were told that the average blackmail would not live to get past the age of twenty five. So if you're a rapper in the nine is in your blackmail in the nineties and. And your and your twenties, you know, that's gonna kinda follow you miss with you because nobody else is saying about any other males to tick in the country. So just the very fact that that was an issue that was stated that was on record reported as a statistic is just deeply disturbing problematic in itself. Was that say about a society that you live in when people from your culture? Are it that way? So you know, talked about it and definitely big, talked about it even more. I mean, come on his. You know, life after death. Mean there it is, I mean, doesn't get any more surreal more than that. So, yeah, we're talking about his mortality about dying. You know, it does bring you back to that. So let's just kind of fascinating. I wasn't expecting that you know, off of from the beginning of his album. Not at all. Excuse me. So life after death, of course as the second record. But so big is I, of course everyone knows ready to die. So yeah, this rapper was that, you know? Yeah, death is on my mind. I mean. You call your first album, the die. I mean that says a lot. So it's a classic record. So as to their album came up posting after he died, of course, double album. The ready ready today has a cover of big little baby sitting with afro, looking to laugh smiling, so very powerful imagery. So, yeah, so low mind song don't cry. Like I said, it's about mass mortality feels that death may be around the corner. He questions his life in general from where he's been to where he may be going as an MCSE as a man. So he's pies partners and things. He talks about death and rebirth from death and religious aspects of it. He also raps on humility and Tout's being God-given while conceit self driven. Those were wise words actually, wise words, actually, yes, definitely. So I like that. Here's some lyrics from this on Don cry. And I like the song I do. Yeah. Extents, don't cry, don't go, he sings and he sinks, and his voice is very haunting. When he thinks won't lie. I freaking love you. Well sensor. Then lowland staring into the clouds in my rising. Or they come in down. I see death around the corner and the u-turn signs looking like a smile. What do I do now who go find me how nowhere to term, but around and round. Just another brother center down, lost his head. No, a freaking king. Forgot his crown. I am not. Number one. It's true. I am number nine twenty seven eighty two his birthday. Okay, colorblind. Even if I may be blue. A lot of my play eight my favorite food, but I'm hungry. So hungry me and my family tree next to a money tree with a bunch of leaves in the garden of Eden with a bunch of ease. No fruit punch from me. I sip from the fountain of youth. So if I die young blame the juice, Barry me in New Orleans, tubes on don't cry. Stay tuned. Bring me back to life. Got to lose a life just to have a life, but heavens as good as advertise. I want a triple expansion on my mother Lovin afterlife rest paradise Samarra too. Accidents, you know. Don't cry, don't cry. Don't cry. Don't go Wia. Why won't lie? I freaking love. You don't cry. Don't cry. Don't cry. Don't go while. Why won't? Why don't cry. Don't cry. African love. You don't cry. Talent is God given be grateful, famous, not a given the humble and can seat itself driven drive, carefully, staying your own lane, see buckled. And sometimes when there is no music between our own horns ram bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-ba that woman carried the future and Tunisia was born like Dun Dun Dun Dun. Don't call it a comeback. It was dark. Now the some bag hit me heart, but I punched back. The wheels fell off. I wrote the hubcap. Is it suicide or is, or is it do a die is newer days and is bluer, skies. I told myself is just you and I, then the breeze came into blew my mind. Lord knows who I am their excuse me, Lord knows who I'm there for. I give my last breath of air for momma. Tell me to be careful. Voice in my head, give me an earful, but I got my control over my control. I lost control, but new either find control. I let guy control the what I cannot control can't control the tears that I'm dropping role and then essentially on little lane, don't cry, don't cry. Don't cry. Moans that he moans that you're just like is very, it's very soulful compelling when you him seeing that, so won't lie, don't cry, freaking love. You, triple extensions, triple extension on my mother Levin afterlife recipe dies, don't cry, don't cry. Don't cry. Don't go while awhile. Why won't lie freaking love. You don't cry. And then the our show is a little way don't cry. Stay tuned and triple essentially on my mother Levin afterlife recipe paradise. So by the way, was able to. To. Get triple extensions. From his musicale able to get on the record it and to add him to his song. So posthumously. So triple extents, yon, never even had any idea that he was going to be a little winning track, but I'm sure you know the apps life. He's happy about it, so so Exxon talk about his call. What about me feature in Sosa mound. From saying, right? Yeah, starts off with sounds from the ocean. The next sound is the lighting of a cigarette or something to that effect, low wing star, seeing his voice has an auditor affect on it. The Trat base jumps have a muted effect to them banker. The song the production is atmosphere can airy. There's plenty of room to breathe on this track at low Wayne does just that on this track. This track is one of my favorite tracks on this record, low wing sings, only on this track. So he's not. He's just singing. My only complaint on this track is the auto tune. He actually doesn't need it. So Samir Ryan on the second verse actually. So he's the one who rhymes on this track. He uses the tune as well. And his rhyme conveys the same system as though Wayne in regards to his girlfriend. So let me talk about what the song's about the song's about low Wayne, not being over ex girlfriend who is now with other men and not him. He can't get over her. He's upset because he gave her everything. She left him for other dudes. Anyway. Low Wayne is left. Asking the question, what about me. And somehow I think so many men in on this world have asked that question, and there are probably a lot of women who have to so there it is about me. Here's. If you saw me, would you understand that I can't stand you with another man? I see you happy where your life is at. I see you smile. I can't live with that and then the course. 'cause what about me? Yeah, I stayed up all night for you girl girl. What about me? Yeah, I shut down my life for you. Now you want around with him and him and him. How do you do that? How you like? I never held you every night and now you never call back. Please girl girl. What about me. And then verse one is the course. All right. Oh, tell me, do you ever think about it those lonely nights when you lost it? Oh, the only time that you were call just to tell me it's my fault. Oh. I'll let you cry. 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We're here to help you some restrictions apply see store for details. Always on the go. But the day just will be more without your Hollywood Golden State media concepts that are Tim podcast. Take care of that and all inclusive look of pop culture. Welcome back to hit me. The concepts. A podcast should catch and keep doing that little lane review for the Carter five. What about me. Once again, we're back to concepts I was reading lyrics from what about me? Let's continue with that. What about me from the ways Carter. Five, yes, yes, yes. Featuring extensive on distract singing the hook. That's pretty good. Actually. I have to check out stuff now, so I let you yell. I let you hurt me. Oh, I give you everything. You need it. Now you gone gone gone. Tell me how you do that to me. Yeah, then of course girl. What about me? Yeah, I stayed up all night for you. Yeah, girl girl. What about me? Yeah, girl. What about me? I shut down my life for you. I should that my life. Now you went around with him and him and him how you do that. Oh, how you? I never you every night now. You never call back, please. Please girl girl. What about me? Oh, girl, girl girl. What about me? I'm enjoying reading that I I am because it almost sounds like little ways like it's almost like temptation song or something. I like all. Are like Rb crooner type of name like baby. They'd be pleased. Please baby, please. I love it. So Sosa man comes in in verse. Second verse didn't think about me when I'm flying OT a IB up in the streets. You telling me that you go and leave hit my phone with the beep, boom, knock it, knock it out baby creep. Oh, just wanna. See, you smile didn't other than tears ain't for you. Did none of them tears for you? Baby. And they matching your style. I'm kicking flav with your sauce. I'm cutting them lovers. I'm thinking about you and all of the things that we used to do all this. You went through. I don't want, you know, other do. Yeah. And then the chorus has little and Sosa man girl. What about me? Girl? What about me? Oh, I stayed up all night for you. Sit up all night. Oh, girl girl. What about me? What about Migo? Oh, yeah. What about me? Girl? I should down my life for you. I shutdown my life. Now you went around with him and him and him. How do you do that? How girl how you never hell you every night and now you never call back, please? Please girl girl. What about me? Me? Yeah. What about me? Oh. That was fun. That was fun. So the next tracking wanna talk about open letter. It starts off with strings and keys in the background. You can hear the sound of someone writing on paper as if the writing a letter. The writing on paper gets louder. Lo Wang clears throat and starts to run to kick drum hits twice. And then the snow comes in the kick drum disappears at the middle of the middle of the song and gets replaced by Trat base. That plays the same pattern. There is a slight variation to it here and there, but for the most part, the Trat base and drummer them consistent and anchors this song. The songs that open letter that low Wayne is right into his friends and family. He discusses how sometimes he doesn't feel his own self worth. He one is about his death, basically questioning his all Motala. Once again, a recurring thing he stays that if he gets killed, he wants his death to have a meaning. You know. Which is morbid, but okay, he wants to make sure that his kids know how much he loves them. He lost for love and lost it the song's about low feeling empty inside now, just having more sex with women versus making love to them. He also believes that people care more about what he has than who he actually is. Yeah, yeah, I can see that. Unfortunately, low wing also addresses having suicidal thoughts and what what is true purpose for him? He also the life of a rap star isn't always pretty on the song. Low end gives off the impression that he can feel death all around him, and that is causing him to be more suffer -flective about who he really is. The song has low. Wayne's mother talking about how good father she thinks he is to his children, and she talks about how the Saul, you know what his wife told that there haven't the, she was pregnant. His mom's like we all still young. Just just be a good father, you know. But you know you both of young. So she was basically saying you guys are really young to be doing this. So we'll see what happens but focus on being good parents. This is definitely one of my favorite song. I like it often letter because definitely from the heart, very sincere. So here's the Malir IX. Sometimes I feel like I crap sometimes brother feel like crap talking about some real life crap. Goodbye letter, dear life, crap. So if a brother kill me, hope he mean it at his hope. I die for a reason. They probably won't miss me too. They need me have problems with with emit and they, they need me Laura, I'm I'm talking about some real life crap. Goodbye letter, dear life, crap way to concern to be conceited. I live and I learned then died trying to teach him, Laura died trying to reach him the care more about how much I leave him what I leave it. I hope I leave more of an impression on my kids to be destined to have blessings to believe in law. Just go off the phone with just me, Lord. Just got off the phone with my son told him you're a son of a gun. Just got out the phone with my daughter told her, I won't hesitate to mess up a young brother up to messing in by the sensor. Of course, Lord a few. Ladies left me where we can say he or the other sensor, which is left me now only got a new which elected my old witch was to was to disrespect and only give me new, which respect that's power. Yes. So now we're next can't lie though. I tried. I'll die trying to commandeer. We was such a team. We was chasing dreams stop. Now I'm out of breath. Now they try to tell me, I need rest and I'll find love again. I find it yet. Oh, but I guess it is what it is as it appears crap. The mirror is more than is more near than it appears okra sometimes I fear who in the mirror that brother we're, he done does so many times, but still here. Why am I here? Do you live? What is my meaning? My reason naked, which is really loved ones. Sometimes I loved ones don't love us. I'm freaking more than make. I'm screwing more than I'm making love. Sometimes I make my rubber ware rubber dam. Never heard that one before. That's an original line right there. I tell my lady, nothing's easy. Even though I make it look easy. But understand, looks are deceiving looking like I'm looking for some grievance because I've been through way too much. Don't wanna think about it. Cranky bought it. Gotta drink about it. Got a synchronized tranquilize doctor prescribing what he ain't realizing pain inside me. Got me. Thinking about me trying to hate my body sanctifying. I'm against the dying because all gangsters die. I can't deny. You can't tame my lying. I'm angry Lyon hanging by stream. I can't describe it. Feel like an anchor tied to my finger got me singing to the bottom of my drink. And a lot of brothers think I got a lot of brothers. They're strengthen numbers, but there's honor over strength. I talked to guy the other day. He said he got her brother. So look death up in her eye. Wink. It's way to reel the crap. I'm talking way way too. Will I hope it gave you chills the under your feet could be the grave. You feel you don't know? How did you feel to your dead for real getting high after. I paid the Bill lower than ABC will show with the maybe guns. I hope somebody praying for him price tag, no mistake somebody paying for him. I spat with my face numb, no expression was the life expectancy when you don't expect crap, mama told me, screw the world and be so aggressive beast of fluorescent, watch those watchos hose 'cause they saw obsessive. I don't get to hire to look over blessings, never come in second, make the most of your seconds. They so precious because if we could buy time every store would sell it. That's true. If you want me to read your mind knee, correct spelling, I keep it real. Keep better. Brothers better. Keep a co-pathetic. Whether we feel like getting, I feel like I'm getting. So excuse me, where we, I feel like I'm getting sober headache looking in the mirror, the one that know me better. I was too busy to talk. I wrote an open letter, their life. What is my meaning? My reason that's the question I asked to read it. God bless the reader Delyth what is my meaning? My reason best to question and just see. The Carter is the Wayne's mom and she says it and the song you know when he told me it was having a baby. I say, y'all young, you know, you're young, but I said, be the best five. You can't be, you know. And truly he is that. So there you go. So long ways. The Carter five is an album that definitely reads like the inclusion of low Wayne's autobiography. So it has seems. So I like that part. I like that concept. It's definitely real. There was nothing about listening to this record that didn't feel offense to me. It has things on death, pain, fear, love, fear, love lost. Family fame, 'isolation religion, philosophy, and love. I appreciate his honesty and candor on this record in regards to Hulu away is and where he is coming from. What I don't like is all is, is the all too easy and predictable, misogyny that still permeates throughout the record. I'll never understand how hip hop artists and of course not all of them came praise the mothers and daughters and still call women. You know, the b- were throughout most of their records on every other track. It dilutes your artistry and his regressive. The songs are like on the Malacca lot. But the songs that I don't like our because they're too excessive and eagle massage and braggadocio. The album is too long as well. Twenty three songs is too much. Unless you intend unless you intend for it to be a double album, then that's a different story. On a scale of one to ten, with ten being the best one being the worst, I get us out five and a half. My favorite songs are don't cry. Featuring sense. Can't be broken dark side of the moon featuring Nicki Nash. That's a great song. She sing that song. She sounds great. It's like a love song about being an outer space. It's pretty cool. So I like to get home. What about me? I know I love that one open letter. I love famous. And that features. Wayne's daughters singing, and I forgot to write her name down his oldest regime regime Carter and she sounds great. She sings on that song on famous problems is good. Mess is good and let it all work out. Feature sampler, a sample for him. That's really good. I like that as well. So there it is. If you're if you're a fan little Wayne, he doesn't disappoint. My thing is though is like how with every genre when you're when you start with an artist and you see how you there with them and you watch them grow. Like for example, accurate member when prints was only on urban radio, and I remember watching his transformation and watching his transcendence where he surpassed that and he and the whole world fell in love with him. I watched. I watched us beginning watch washes, his his growth, his future and his end. I, I was a witness to it. You know the soundtrack to my life. He's one of those artists. So. So now we have rappers doing that and when you know you rap, you know when you know some of your favorite emcees are getting older. You don't want them there. They're still in the twenties. If you're in your late thirties or your forties and year wrapping, you still have that mainstream air or you still had that talent to to execute your artistry musically. Our know what you like now and he gave his half of that or maybe or maybe more than half of that. But some of the stuff is just a cliche now in his redundant and lyrically just needs to grow. And that's probably like one of my biggest frustrations with hip hop commercially speaking today is that lyrically mature matures should be. Which is one of the reasons why you never hear people care as one and Chuck d on the radio, mainstream wise because lyrically they've, you know, they volved passed so many emcees. They're consistent and you see their lyrical growth. They didn't have much to grow on, but you see that arch, you see it and he just goes, they elevate it. They said a standard there has not been reached by most mainstream rappers. So you know, emcees male and female. Two thousand eighteen let go the b word. Let that go. Let go that misogyny. You know, you have female emcees using that word to and they can be just a massage mystic as the Maalim sees and once again now all MC's that way. So don't get it twisted. But that's that's what lyrically holds back hip hop in my opinion. And that regard get past that there's so many things that you know you can talk about if you're someone in your twenties or or your. Teens and your rhyming. I want to know about your life. Sure. And where your head is, if you're in your forties, fifties in your rhyming, as long as it's good, I want to know what you're headed, but lyrically you should have grown. You shouldn't be talking about the same exact thing and you know there's too many emcees right now who are guilty of that is not just one, you know, Eminem is a great MC. He's guilty of that as well, but he's a great emcee, but get guy get past that, you know. So. After this break, we'll talk about the next review, which is Paul McCartney right with each station. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen close, and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching the Golden State media concepts. Podcast network is here nothing less than podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast, covered from news, sports, music, fashion, looking entertainment, fantasy football, and so much more. So stop lurking around and go straight out to the Golden State media concepts. Podcast network guaranteed to fill that podcast is whatever it may be visit WWW, dot GS, MC podcast dot com. Follow us on Facebook and Twitter and download us on. I tunes soundcloud and Google play. And once again, you listened to Golden State me concepts, music podcast, the should captain Keith just finished. I review little Wayne's the kind of five. Now, let's talk about circum- McCartney. Yes, folks. Paul McCartney original original co, founder of the Beatles John Lennon. When the bills from sixty to seventy. Think so. Something like that sixty two or sixty six to seventy sixty to take a look real quick. Let me see. Let me see. See. Excuse me sixty three to seventy, but I still my sixty Sixty-two 'cause they were playing in Hamburg and stuff. And when the Beatles broke, of course, he formed wings. Really good group. Silly love songs, simply having a wonderful Christmastime living, let die. Jet could stuff. Paul McCartney is always knew like a pop genius. He might have been the king of pop before Michael. And of course they collaborated together to the girls mind and say, and now with Mr. Serpa McCarthy, he. Has no amount Egypt station. This is a seventeenth solo albums. Still still record specula- records and September of this year. It's produced by Greg. Kirsten. I, with the exception of one track produced by Ryan header. Is McCartney's first to release since two thousand thirteen knew the album's first double a side, single consisting of two sauce. I don't know. Come on to me. They released a June of this year. The name Egypt station is shared by one of McCartney's paintings from nineteen eighty eight from which the cover art is derived. It becomes his first number one album. The United States since nineteen eighty two tug of war. Wow. And as I today, you atop the billboard two hundred. And yeah, so this painting? Okay. Egypt station. And you see under the word each station is like two paramedics wants mall. To the left, the left pyramid, small right pyramid, and there's two palm trees. One tall. The left one is taller than the wanting to write the palm tree. And there's like a ram. On this on this might be on the station, and there's like a yellow background, a little paintings hard to describe, but, but it's definitely catching. So the first track is called opening station. It's instrumental. You can hear the sound of a train station in the choir and background harmonizing, and then that sound fates out. Then it goes to the next track which is, I don't know. So now I don't know, starts off with an acoustic piano that sound soft and sweet in acoustic guitar plays with them in the background, piano rhythm changes as Paul McCartney starts to sing the drums kick in the same time. He starts his opening verse faint, baseline kicks in behind his vocals, the drums basic kick drum and snare jump had the piano anchor the song, acoustic guitar fades back in towards the end of the song, the percussion vary vary eights at the end of the Saul. You can hear a Tiffany sound towards the end of the drummer. Them's this sound. The sound gives the song like climax finality to it at the end. You know. Dynamic to the song the songs about surpass McCartney's. Him questioning his life is one of those rare moments where things have not been going right, and he knows it has something to do with him, but he can't figure out what's wrong on his end. He has love in his life and he knows that she's not the problem and whatever the pain is. He will bear it and protect her from it. He also charges that he is fire from learning about life lessons. His self reflection drives him to ask what's wrong with me. His only answer is I don't know. So here's some lyrics off from that song. I got crows at my window dogs at my door. I don't think I can take anymore. What am I doing wrong? I don't know. My brother told me life's night. A pain got was right when it started to rain, where am I going wrong? I don't know, but it's all right, snoop tight. I will take the strain. You're fine. Love of mine. You will feel no pain. Well, I see trouble at every turn. I've got so many lessons to learn. What am I doing wrong? I don't know now what's the matter with me? Am I right? Am I wrong? Now? I started to see. I must try to be strong. I try to love you best as I can, but you know what? Excuse me, but you know that I'm only a man. Why am I going wrong. I don't know. Yeah, no. In the chorus, but it's all right, sleep tight. I will take the strain. Yeah, you're fine. Little love of mine. You will feel no pain. I got crows at my window dogs at my door. I don't think I can take anymore. What am I doing wrong? I don't know. Now, what's the matter with me? I don't know. I don't know what's the matter with me. I don't know. I don't know what's the matter with me. I don't know. I don't know. I like that song because you hardly ever hear Paul McCartney sing about sadness. You know, so change of pace, it's cool. It's a good song. I like it. Happy with you. Well, my favorite songs to start off with acoustic guitar and like a metronome foot, tapping the base German flu kicking while policy. The Kucic ATar is the anchor for this song. At the midway point, a snare drum roll is add into the foot, tapping percussion, the basis in the background playing single note rhythms. Paul McCartney adds his own vocal percussion to the mix whisper like chirping sound so. Let me say it again and kiss us about too fast. Paul McCartney adds his own vocal percussion to the mix and whisper like Chirpin sale. So the song's about him reminiscing about his past with all the crazy things that he used to do in his youth, like getting stoned all the time. It's also about him being happy with his current relationship and not having the need to do the crazy things he used to do in his past because he's older more mature now. And yes, this is my favorite song album. I like it. It's kind of funny. Here's the lyrics. I sat around all day are used to get stoned like to get wasted. But these days I don't because I'm happy with you. Got lots of good things to do. Yeah. I walked around angry. I used to feel bad, but nowadays my days they don't have to be sad. 'cause I'm happy with you. I've got lots of good things to do who? Yeah. Has the bridge like here. The high clear Robinson, Walker, blue, Bill carpet, watch the children playing games, catch a moon and drop it hit the gentle mantle role on a frosty morning. See the mighty ocean break, like a sailor's warning. I used to drink too much forgot to come home. This third verse, I lie to my doctor, but these days I don't because I'm happy with you. I got lots of good things to do. Oh, yeah. Second bridge, throw a pocket full of coins in the Chevy fountain CNI's coal running stream. Rushing down the mountain here, newborn baby lamb calling for its mother, watching me and not a friends, loving one. Another. I sat around all day. I like to get stoned. I used to get wasted, but these days I don't. 'cause I'm happy with you about lots of good things to do. Yeah, happy with you. I'm happy with you. Happy with you right on. I did not know what to expect from his album, but I was pleasantly surprised. The next track is called, who cares starts off with a distorted guitar intro and drumsticks hitting together on the rim. Electric guitar, bass, and drums kick in Qatar. Rhythm has a little bit of a country twang to it. The jumps keep a steady and basic beat kicked on the snare back and forth. The baseline is more prevalent on the song than any others on the album. It actually matches most of the rhythm. Guitar phrasing the drums and rhythm guitar navigate the song. The base has a firm cooling a rolling sound throughout the song. This song's about anyone who's ever felt picked on for whatever reason. It's about brushing off negativity of other people. In other words, ignoring the haters. Circolo saying. That if you find yourself dealing with bullying air naturals, whether it's on the internet or in person and you want anybody cares what you're going through, he's letting you know that he does this very positive and encouraging that way. The song is very point. The song is very poignant today, especially from Lenny owes. It's one of my favorite song album. I haven't already said that, here's the lyrics, what's going. This is who cares. A one. A two? Oh, yeah. Did she ever get hurt by the worst people say and the things that they do when they're picking on you that she ever get sad by the games that people play? Excuse me. Okay. Let me he. Did you ever get set by the games that they play when they're making you feel like a rusty old wheel, and of course, is been left in the rain. Who cares what the idiot, say, who cares? What the idiots do, who cares about the painting, your heart, who cares about you. I do. And the bridges. 'cause you're worth much more of that. You can be sure no need to hide the love. You've gotten side. Did you ever get lost in the heart of a crowd and the people around keep on pushing you down is driving, you mad, you're screaming out loud and you're wondering who's going to recognize you in the choruses. Your ghost in the dark. Who cares what the idiots say, who cares? What the idiots do, who cares about the painting, your heart, who cares about you. Who cares what the idiots say, who cares what the idiots do, who knows about the painting, your heart, who cares about you. I do. You've been left in the rain. So that's the only thing I love the song. I love the lyrics, but that last verse that last line you left in the rain. I mean, like the songs very uplifting positive. It's very supportive and nurturing and encouraging. But that last. Verse. I'm this like. As feel doesn't end the song on a positive note. It's kind of sad because he wants to be left in the rain. Right? I know. I don't wanna to be left at all, especially in a rain unless you like the rain. Some people are all in the internet rain. That's their thing. It's not my thing so so, but. Paul McCartney's Egypt station. So once again, we're talking about earlier in the podcast today about how. You know, you see musicians grow and you wanna be with them and see their growth. Artistically promise is showing that Paul McCartney's in the seventies and he wrote a album about how life is an album about what's he's going through what life's all about these days. And it's great. It's a good record. This is a record with things on love, depression, reckless, youth, humor piece, global warming. Loss love and less and reassurance. The this I rockstar has made a great album. The subject matter is all over the place just like life, and that's just the way I like it. Actually, on a scale of one to ten, with one being the worst and ten me and the best I get this record in eight and a half. Favorite songs are, I don't know. Come on to me. Happy with you who cares for you? That's f. u. age actually. Confidante people want peace hand in hand back in Brazil and despite repeated warnings. So yeah, Paul McCartney's eater station, pick it up eight and a half out of ten. And you'll see a ten when every song is I feel like, oh, I love every sinus record. I like like I like that. I love the album, but I don't love every song I come close to it, but I just don't. So that's when you know, when I do a ten review, that means every track to me slamming and that's hard and it's rare. It doesn't happen often. So, but I recommend this record. It's good album to great album. He's one of the best ever do it. Paul McCartney Egypt station. So after this break, we'll get into which profit. Her album Godin active. The stylized lounge presents an progressive box daughter. Jim, the lights for this next one too much there. It is. Gotta get things just right. 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And once again, you're listening to Golden State me concepts, music podcast issue, captain Keith next on deck which profit the golden active. So and what's cool. This is the cover art for which profits go to. There's a picture. It's a painting of her. And it's like a portrait. It's a nice painting of her. You see her she has is beautiful. Like flowing afro and the Gordon activists written on top of her head and a half of a circle. And then like from like her neck down to her shoulders, he see all these different types of flowers. On her chest in her neck covering her up. It's like a very nice, lovely painting. This is the debut album released Toronto based singer songwriter which profit the golden active is multi-layer offering Mirroring which profits, intersection, -ality, and lived experiences as an East African queer mother living in that I ended aspe- a south Cape vocal layers, loosen harmonies on a bed of hip hop jazz and sold, inspired beats. That's I heard definition of who she is. So I figured I'd give that to you. We'll get into what I think of everything. So the first track on this album is caught loops. It starts off with which profit harmonizing the word who who, who the vocals become layered a, you know. A flu is planning a background. Her vocals are double during the her course, which is I'm a time traveler, even though she has named the song loops, and maybe it's loot, you know, which is fine. It's apparently the answer to her next song which is called time traveler. So let's get into that. But actually, before I confess on me, give you the lyrics to loops as you know the who that repeat for like six times. And then she says, what if I, what? If I told you just who I was? Who would you be more careful who knowing what I'm capable of, who who, who, what if I, what if I who? Then she says, I told you just who I was and the more of the who would you be more fearful. You know, the more the who, who, who, who knowing what I'm capable of who I'm a time traveler and the more the who I'm a time, traveler time, traveler. Who time traveler. So. Now that song's basically saying, hey, you know what? If I showed you who who I really am. And what I can really do. You know. Would you be afraid of me. If you knew who I am capable of good question, you know, so time traveler, which is the the second track. You know, lips leads into featuring features Lido Pimenta. To say, right, starts off with programming that has the jump sticks hitting on the rims of this Nares with keys in the background and a saxophone. Playing a three note rhythm that sets the pace for the song doing her versus the percussion adds another layer, and you can hear a brush stroke on symbols type of sound. The syntheses has a low end. Three note rhythm that navigates the song with the percussion along with the because this song is about which profit actually being a time, traveler a time travelling witch who puts a spell on you so that you will fall in love with her. It's also about her contemplating whether or not she should tell you who she really is and wonder if if you would still be interested, if he truly knew how powerful she really is which you run to her or way from her. So here's the lyrics. This, what if I told you just who I was, would you be more careful knowing what I'm capable of capable of know what I'm capable of capable of? What if I told you just who I was, would you be more fearful, knowing what I'm capable of capable of know what I'm capable of capable of IOT time, traveler from another dimension. Yes, I'm a time, traveler from nother dimension. Did I mention I put a spell on you. I put a spell on you. Spell on you. I put a spell on you. Spell on you. I put a spell on you. Spell on you. Now your mind, mind your mind, mine now you're mine. Mine your mind now you're mine. Mine mine. Now, your mind your mind? Yeah, always on your mind, I put a spell on you spent on you always on your mind. I put a spell. On you, spell on you. Always on your mind. I put a spell on, you spell on you. You are mine. You are mine. What if I told you just I was which you'd be careful which would be more fearful. Should you be more careful? Should you be more Phil fearful? I think that I think so. Maybe so I think I think not, I think so. Maybe so I think that maybe so I think so. Maybe so traveler, I'm a time, traveler, another dimension dimension. And we hear the song it just, you know. Enjoy the lyrics. The music is really good. I don't do it Justice, but you've got to track track a lot. The next track I wanna talk about on this album was caught. Reprogram starts off with the pulsing base jumper cushion atmosphere extent was well, let me let me let me rephrase that. Starts off with the pulsing bass, drum with percussion with percussion atmospherics in the background, a three Milt synth arrangement in the Laura active. The jump programming has a tribal feel and also schoolhouse music feel to it. The production socially harmonious, the synthesizer slash keys and jump programming navigate the song. This song's about realizing that you are in the matrix and that it's time to wake up from the disturbing dream at is keeping us asleep. Break free from the Aleutian reprogram ourselves so we can take control of our lives. This is a great sauna dance to and with meaningful lyrics. And here's the lyrics. Once again, the song's called reprogram, take control, take control, take control, take control, take control, living an illusion. We think we're away, but it's just a dream living an illusion. We think we're awake. Think we're awake. Think we're away think we're awake. They program program, they program reprogram, they program program your life. They program reprogram. They program reprogram, they program program your life. Living an illusion. We think we're awake, but it's just a dream. Living an illusion. We need to wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake, wake, wake. We need to wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake, wake wake, yeah, you get the message. She wants us to wake up. Definitely. I think as this, she wrote a song. That basically is based off of that. Great. I kind of movie the matrix because even before that film came out, you know, there was always talk about what at this oughta dream, what if this isn't real, but what if we're just dreaming so for? So for someone to put that. Into a film. Have you see it. That stove future. Is very intriguing. So then she goes on to say, awake, wake, wake way, quake wave that repeats for a while. Take control, take control, wait, wait, wait, wait, quake, quake, take control, take control, take control, living an allusion. We think we're awake, but it's just a dream. Living an illusion. They program reprogram. They program reprogram. They program reprogram your life. They program reprogram. They program reprogram. They program reprogram your life. I mean, this is symbolic of the struggle that you have every day in life to be your own individual, not to get lost in lose your identity as a person as human being. That's that's me talking about the lyrics and regard not actually lyrics. They program reprogram. Program reprogram program reprogram your life. You know, that goes off for a while. They program reprogram. They program reprogram. They program reprogram your life. There's remix this onto the towards the end, which I like to take control, take control, take troll. So. I mean which profits the golden active is an album about. We want suck in here. It's an album about time travel, which craft. Self realization and actualization. Encouragement. Female empowerment. It's about, I love lost on by the way. There's a video office record for her song, indigo and videos about her discovering love again and being in love and looking into our lovers is so yeah. The things we're talking about. So I said, what self realization and actual self actualization. Encouragement, female empowerment, love lost, and love found and rebellion. So the production on on this album is is so fully organic with the house music and afro center slash psychedelic feel to it. I like it a lot. I mean, there's some hip hop elements to it as well. So for album that was like basically. Unlikely made through like synthesizer, synthesizers and programs and Trump programming. It has. It still has a very organic feel to it. And I like that about this records. Scary, genuine. On a scale from one to ten, with one being the worst and ten being the best. I am. I give this album. Eight and a half. And my favorite tracks on this record our time traveller featuring Lido Pimenta waiter. The world, indigo manifest reprogram mirror Rozina Qazi stars. Stars has a real psychedelic soul. Second soul, rob feel to. It's really tricky. It's cool. It's about being out in stars. Of course, listen, patron, Lucas Silveira gray song about Cochran your fears. Very uplifting. Lots of encouragement in that song. Mirror is about female empowerment and building a bigger world around you. Listen about all of us, conquering fears, being better from it, and then reprogram the remix about taking that matrix. So I discovered this record actually, I'm band camp, so and to my knowledge is only available digitally. I don't see on vinyl CD, but yeah. Which profit it's a good record. So nice, interesting. Intriguing soul record. So let's give it a eight and a half. Well, good people, the planet earth and the known universe. You've been listening to g. podcast dot com. Aka Golden State media concepts, the show captain keep hope you had a great time. I know I did pre sheets. You all. 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#669 Dessa & Opinions on Paul McCartney

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#669 Dessa & Opinions on Paul McCartney

"Sound opinions is supported by goose island brewing good beer for good people since nineteen Eighty-eight, not just beer people, but everyone beer that can be enjoyed at the dinner table on the patio at the music festival, goose island beer company, Chicago, Illinois. This podcast is supported by the moth every week. The moth shares personal stories told from the stage live and without notes stories ranging from an astronaut on a mission to fix the Hubble telescope to one woman's unforgettable journey to a destination wedding at DisneyWorld. You can find them off on apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts while bobbling mom bound bound. From WBZ Chicago NPR x. this is sound opinions. I'm Jim, dear goddess in. I'm Greg cut this week. Desa joins us in front of an audience. This is a poet author and hip hop artists who's as interested in scientific theory as she is in lyrics. I don't want to create the impression that like I'm rapping Bill Nye because I'm not feeling music and science are both lenses to understand and frame problem. You know, they're both like outlets through which you can route curiosity. Plus we'll review Egypt station. The seventeenth solo album from Serpa McCartney and Greg has a song that he can't live without to add to the desert island jukebox. That's all coming up on sound opinions. You are listening to sound opinions and later in the show we're gonna talk about Paul McCartney's you album his first and five years. I mean McCartney at seventy six is still touring like a twenty three year old rocker and relentlessly doing the promo hype circuit all over the place and first studio album in five years from Kearney. But that's later in the show first Desa. China's. They hope in life. It's been a single themselves because I refused to downplay my intelligence, but in the room and rather veteran fly might be one in Saxon like channel. Four bag takes was a little bit of a song the bullpen by our guest this week. Desa me to say she's a rapper really under cells because she's also a singer, a writer, a renaissance woman in the Theresa. She's released four albums that showcase her signature lyrics with the doom tree, hip hop, collective out of Minneapolis, an artist run label that really does put a premium on lyrics. Her latest album is called chime. But if that isn't enough, she's also an author, her book my own devices, true stories from the road on music science and senseless. Love is just out. And recently she and singer guitarist, Matthew Santos joined us an audience at the goose island taproom in Chicago for an intimate acoustic performance and a conversation. We don't wanna Dell. Too much into the ancient history because we're really excited about chime. Thanks, four thousand a year career, and it's making a lot of noise. Thanks. What was your goal? Desa? You know, you reach point four albums in. You've got to wonder. Do I have anything to say anymore? I could go get gainful employment, right? Yeah, yeah. What was your goal when you set out to make this one? I think I think for a lot of us in hip hop pop has been a dirty word for a long time, and that stems back from like this backpack tradition where that was like the only thing that you listened to, and I've always secretly liked Bob, and I think a lot of other people have to so so in this record, I wanted to remove that self established prohibition, you know, from singing like a catchy hook and to try to do it without like four fitting any of the commitment to lyrics that attracted me to hip hop in the first place. I'm heist thrown remove Ursel dome or that's type tai-bo to wake up, calm, shape up CHAI tea titans. Hi Bono, easy money. I'm trying to get rich slow standing on the apron. Upstate did a trusted three, squirrel e. n. f. b. maya's raping the content, but giving people the hook because I feel like there's this idea that that like, oh, you know, pop isn't isn't for intellectual listening and in part that's true. You know, it's like I don't turn to pop music for like moral guidance, or, you know, philosophically, but I don't think you ruin pop song by having good writing on it. Yeah, I think it can withstand that. And and then you know, working with a lotta, the doom true producers, I was also interested in just making some some rat bangers and then finding a way to make them compatible on wondering, yeah, you've always been kind of genre agnostic though. I think even from the first record, you were kind of you on this. Everybody thought doom tree, it's going to be a hardcore hip hop record a backpack record, like you're saying. And there was a lot more on it. Than than that. Obviously. So that's something that's always been part of your DNA musically from the start. So it probably took a little bit of a courage to put the record like that out on doom tree initially, what was what was going through your head when you're starting to form how you present your your words? Musically, I, I was helped in my courageousness by almost total ignorance and that like I'm still not very good at listening to a song and knowing exactly what it's called. You know, like I use the word prog a lot because it seems like that gets me out of. Out of trouble like like yes and Genesis prog see already I'm into deep. We have to move on. I just, I don't know. I think I've said it before, but I feel like John is a great tool to figure out how to shelve a record, and it's not a great tool to figure out how to make a record. Like I think good music has more common with other good music than it has with any other member of the category in which is is. And so I was, I was just interested in harmonies and words and beats that moved me and. And even now, like after I finish chime, I was laser becoming, how many rap songs do you think are on this record? And he and I totally disagreed. You know, like I don't know how few notes you can use with your voice before you're technically wrapping, and then how many you add and you're technically singing. Even, you know. In the mountains up to whip the blood. You bring your body back to see level sing with body. Does. And it was just John Breaux. It sad, that's good hid. You try to stay in one beautiful thing is you don't have to hire out to somebody deficit hawks on your under song. Yourself. One woman band, right. Well, I think we're remiss if we don't have you guys launch into a song, give people a taste, and especially because we're all really excited to hear what this you're completely reinventing yourself. When you're playing on stage, you've been touring a lot behind chime. What is the lineup usually were a five piece. So we've got a lot of voices and we've got in within those five players, we've got a lot of multi instrumentalists as well. So there's a lot of wires and a lot of talent onstage and now being joined by by Matthew, he is doing the lion's share of the lifting because I am here empty-handed encumbered only by my silver rings and he's got to Qatar. She has to do all the music, not a lot of wires. What are you gonna play. This one's called a good grief. I got snow in my bag. It's when done again, headfirst laced drill bits among point shoes. Pure, went to the hardware debater night foles day breaks time is a funny kind of violence and trying to keep in mind. Good green have her bay say what a phrase, what states be. I don't know what they go to get that fill in my knees. They clean not much democracy. Crazy stunts in my own saving on this something amiss. A big op. Maybe good. Okay. Maybe. Good breeze. Z. is good. Okay. Maybe. Good. Let's see this, Tom, my best wasn't good enough. Usually it is and the and a little to use engine in both wings, but I'm ready to work for this. Just show me what it I'm ready to hurt for this on know exactly. Let. Well, that good green, the one that he has me that leaves me clarify, fireman of pain tempered relied on the good of fluid of the. Champagne. I know this feeling. They say is good. Rather. Maybe. So. Passe say. Maybe. Good. And Segers elect mckendall jumped over the fence out. This should be settled. The fed of it that Donna. Fantasize. It's so. In. Skin me. Me. Zam. In the skin. Me. Like. Agrees. Good grief from Desa and Matthew Santos on sound opinions. We are here at the taproom with Desa in Matthew Santos. That was beautiful version of that song. You know, when people think of hip hop, they think about somebody rapping over beats and working methodology, writing these songs sitting down with an acoustic guitar or guitarist and writing the songs. I mean coming from different places every time or is the working method similar with each song? Yeah, I would say like this is one of the few experiences I could count on one hand the time that I've done a rap show with two people with crossed legs, the entirety of the. The entirety of the requirements. But for me, most of the songs I'd states are are germinated with beat. That's been created usually by one of the other producers and doom tree. So shout outs, leisure beacon, paper, tiger, see slaughter. And then from there, I think I probably frustrate and occasionally irritate them by saying Coby Coby Coby I wrote a song and I'd like to change. And then you know, like I wanna gut the bridge and I was thinking, what if we act no big deal come in and play strings over it and you know, make it soft. I think that I think that very often it's like finding that feels like it has footholds in it. So sometimes that happens already wanna hear the saw the beat for Warsaw made by paper tiger. I kind of move my body and imagine the way that wrapping over that would feel so I knew what kind of Florida used to write that the wick with no canon of no accident. On an occasionally for some of the more things, song stuff. It does help to build the chord changes and I so that I know exactly how to surf over that musically. And also, you know hip hop is so rhythmic the words have to sort of that there's cadence there. So are you paying attention to that or sometimes you say, screw it? I can't. I can't fit this yet into these. If you say, screw it, you have a bad song. So I'm tempted to say, screw it. But when you listen back, it's so wack. Yeah, it's just bad. So you know, part of what makes exactly that part of what makes hip hop lyrics interesting is not just content all of that's part of it and not just like verbal dexterity, although that's part of it too. You know, these double entendre in ways and plans and interesting references, but part of it is you have to, you have to participate as vocal percussionist, you know, and don't you sound. Very pre eighty eight. You know, it sounds very nursery rhyming. Those of you who had to like pretend to do a rapid an office party or heard someone try. No, exactly what I'm talking about. The clocks. Tom's take what I need with me. Bring your public speaker and you do a lot of teaching. So there's this kind of a science nerd aspect here background, which you apply to this record. There's their stories coming out about you had to science experiment done on your brain, right. Basically to figure out how how it works in relationship to a relationship that you had. Right? Yeah, partly is an art project and partly as project and partly is a as an attempt to solve a real world problem. I worked with a group of scientists at an FM awry lab at the university of Minnesota, and also with a neuro feedback clinician to see if we could identify the structures in my brain that are most closely associated with romantic love and then to get them to shut up because I love the guy for really long time and it wasn't working and I don't want to create the impression that like I'm rob. Epping Bill Nye because I'm not. There's no like there's no neuro site, no neuro scientific terms on the record or anything right? Feeling music and science are both lenses to understand and frame of problem. You know, they're both like outlets through which you can route curiosity and creativity. So see, I think in any given like four year period, a lot of whatever I'm going through a human being is, of course going to be reflected in represented on on the record that I make. During that time you gave a great commencement address at at your own mater university of Minnesota, two thousand twelve. In modern American culture, and maybe in a lot of other places too. I think we do a lot of our failing in private, and we do a lot of our succeeding outside in public. And whenever we can in front of a camera, you know, played for my daughter's two, and it was one of those things where listen to this, one of the things he said that really stuck with the whole idea of willingness to fail. And I think that a version to public failure diminishes us and alternately, I think that it reduces the scope of our successes. Can you address that issue like the idea of willing being willing to fail to find out what kind of person you are? How did you come to that sort of conclusion in your own one? I will say that like although we had a pretty volatile relationship for my some of my child and teenage years, like my dad has become a really great friend and guide to me. And so some of the council that that I have forwarded in that speech. Was was plagiarized pretty directly from Bob wander. Shout out. I think that there is sort of like a particular kind of hard cover book right now that sanctifies failure and I do not participate in that particular trend. I think failure sucks. I think it hurts avoided disastrously except for the fact that never failing sucks so much worse than failing because you haven't reached or tried or really demarcated the parameters of your capacity and ability as human beings. So if you only do stuff that you know that you're going to be good at and go to win, you avoid the fear of the pain of failure, but you also void like the glory of all this untapped potential. So you you lead a safe, I think, but, but a much smaller life than the one that might have been available to you. If you were willing to be occasionally humiliated, did you find out from firsthand experience? I mean. Like I feel like a lot of these songs on almost all of my records are very stylized counts of humiliation. We have subtexts here. That's good. I like it. What's a torch song except for like what didn't work. Well, you do like flipping the script, good grief and positive failure? Cots been monopolizing the conversation. I wanna ask more questions too, but we should get another song. I, what are you gonna play. This one is half view. This is a another one from time. Yeah. Essay, the chill heart is the size of your fist. I can tell you I handle HANA cla. Takes a whole life just to teach into Triggs beads. And in saw the attraction, live you life between contractions and doing to just. But what if I could kill. Me. And my Socia. I choose. Maybe happy with have view. Then I'd be with clean, but and in message mad of us still so much to. The kiosks, swallow the lab. While these spin in battles in instilled among this. This we should be sad are emitted, but I can't do. I can't on all the screws in my own Kansas bull out all the fuses inside can't raise kids do about pangs. No, it's not the sided thing. You'll supposed to show you can't use supposed to go to show what you can and so through. But what if I could cure. Me. Mass. Oh, show. Maybe I'm happy. You be with blame, but. In Massachusetts made a bus, this still so. To get this. Faraway addle no. Lead left. Is. Oh. What that kill. Me. Nice. Oh, sure. Maybe. Then I'd bay with clean. Fits made as does so. Maybe. Of you. In the midst. It's made of us based. That goes back in around here, live at the goose island taproom, beautiful stuff, half of you, you don't believe that right. You don't believe you don't enter off with? I don't feel. I don't know. I mean, I think I'm still deciding whether or not happiness feels like the ultimate good. Maybe sometimes being connected is even better than being happy, but that's not very woke. After a short break, we'll continue our conversation with Desa from the goose island taproom in Chicago. That's intimate unsound opinions from WBZ Chicago NPR, ex. 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God is this week is our interview with the rapper Desa we spoke with are in front of a live audience at goose island taproom in Chicago, hearing a little bit of the song fire drills from her latest record chime can't be too broke to break as woman over something. Thanks. Talk to strangers. Look, sue long votes far outta rains. His angels can't watch everybody all the time. Stay close hems though. Safe inside the formula works if it can it, but it works but put in half the world off limits. This has become an anthem for the metoo movement and Desa songs haven't traditionally been explicitly political. So I asked where the inspiration for this track came from because you don't do pilots, don't you know front and center you deal with them as they affect your life. You don't set out to say, I'm gonna write an at them now. I don't know. I don't. And to be honest like I've been, I've been selective about how and when and where I've engaged in a lot of gender conversations. Mhm. Impart because I think even really good intentions. Can. Sometimes alienate the people I most want to connect with so we could accuse you of capitalizing on. Oh, absolutely. And initial? Absolutely. Initially, I mean, so I'd written the song fire drills and I was feeling pretty good about the writing of it. You know, and I and I was I was avoiding the pitfalls that I'd hoped to avoid. And I had some some rap lines felt solid and then recorded it. And then in the interim of having it in the can and waiting to release the new record. Metoo movement really. Ignited overnight. Yeah. So as a person in the world, that's exciting to watch a new Justice emerge as a songwriter, a selfish little creepy artists sitting alone in her living room. I thought, oh my God. Are people going to think that I wrote this to try to ride the wave of this conversation, right to say, okay, we'll check out my cool me to track. You know, drop that buck twenty nine on me at apple get rich. You know a a decaf coffee at a time. But I did worry about that, but we're not seeing that. We're seeing it in sports where we're seeing it in politics, Senator Al Franken of your fine state. We're not seeing it in music. There is no one technically who's laterally related to music. You know what I mean? You're opening for someone someone's the sound tech, your headlining for them the next day, like. If there was a prohibition on having sex with anyone who had more or less power than you like it's a, it's a tricky world to navigate. And so I thought, hey, Mike, complicit in anything, are you? Do you know any rumors about dues? You should be sharing be? Should I watch these cues and what have you know, watch my guys mind. There's a new way because we're all being woken up by some of these concerns and then and then see feeling like a lot of feelings that I'd suppressed about be just being. It's tricky to be a woman, and I don't like talking about that because because rap and my chosen profession is is aggressive. Trying to figure out what is what is big, hard difficult, social change. Look like when it's advocated in a compassionate way because I think it's important that they're just be like frontline fighters. I'm less good at warfare like in yelling and name calling like. So for me, the most, I think that I can offer to that kind of discussion is to say, here's the true story of my experience and trust than the truth does its own work. I don't have to say, and you're a jerk, and this is how you got. I want to say, hey, just so you know the, this is the private experience. Most of us walk around with all day. I wonder if knowing that. Might might might have okay feeling that makes you want to change a little. I disagree with only the part about you not being good at it because fire drills, an amazing piece of art, but it's I right. It's like, this is how I feel. That's all we can also jerk. Right? I for me, I'm moved by personal stories than most and I feel checked by them. I feel inspired by them and for me, like my personal changes happen, not when somebody says your line stepping, but like, hey, just for the record. That was my line. And I hurt, yeah. So when you finish your song like that, and you said you had some doubts about what has been the response to that song now that you're performing it live? It's been, yeah. Like I recorded the demo in my apartment sitting on the floor and maybe detest the water's just a little bit. I had recorded on Instagram, just recording one verse, you know. So the listeners couldn't hear the music, just the words that I was doing and thinking back, I might have done that because it provided an opportunity for commenters to say, like. You know. Some early feedback, but now that we're performing it live, Matthew and psalm, and Kara and Jonathan, the whole five piece together, it feels to me at least really powerful like, and there's a kind of an emotional crescendo. The third verse. And I'm moved, I can feel my blood racing and my my adrenaline going by watching the faces making expressions feel like the one that I'm wearing. And also it's been amazing to like get notes from dads. Yeah, Dan most. Yeah, like us. Like how the heck do you? I mean, how do you swim against the tide, right? And and raise a kid in a way that makes her feel empowered, bold and brave, but also keeps her safe. It's hard. But you can't make difference in the big business standing sentry, your innocence. That's not a white Olympic hippie. What a woman is that gives to us via to what that is. What is this a life of running fire drills. You you've made this amazing album chime and. I'm wondering you said you talked about the pop aspects of it, you know, going more in that direction. I'm in covering hip hop since it started almost and it it. This battle about what is real hip hop. Do get that a lot because you're not always. I would say that the very beginning of my career I was I was very conscious of it like I didn't sing doom tree songs because I didn't wanna be dismissed as a as the girl who came into sang, sing the hooks, which is like a very kind of frosting role. And to me feel integral and I used to our boys close with Easter boxers that were like folded over the outside of my Raver pants so that you could tell it was where I was whereabouts. Regressive thinking. And how old were you. Only like nine would make that. We put it in God's early twenties, and but I remember being told like, you're not a rapper, and I was like, what else would make me rapper? Besides wrapping. Too many women in this business that reside to limit the conversation with Mike. And even that night, I learned the truth about Joe man got up being thing to treat Brady. Those. I can just do the best at making this kind of music that I can. I got to be mindful because it is racially fraud is racially fraud. But I'm not gonna do work to try to fit into something that I can't be. So I'm just going to have to figure it out. Make good songs became to people and honor the fact that like this is an art form that's been popularized by marginalize people. And then people who look like me or sometimes the one who financially capitalize on that. So what are you gonna do about, you know? And sometimes maybe that means like. Collaborating in mindful ways. Sometimes that means like being my about where the money goes, maybe every once in a while saying, hey, you know, I'm not the right person for that gig, but my homie so-and-so is a really, really great pick. Can I give you his number and if he's unavailable than other? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we're living in a post Malone world. Right? It's. And knowing white rapper of the moment. Right. There are a lot of young women who look up to and men too, because you're independent, your forged this kind of lengthy career without having to be any obvious strings attached to any big corporations or anything like that. What would your advice be to somebody who wanted to model themselves after what you do. I would say at the very beginning again, advice for Bob wander, but keep your overhead low which is to say the fewer hours that you have to spend making money to feed. Fancy shoe habit are the more hours that you get to master your craft. The second thing I'd say is I think that when people are at the stage where you're forming a business, you know, even if you're not incorporated yet, you're just trying to get the thing off the ground that there's so much can be done without money. Like if you keep, if you look to your friends and to your friends, friends and all the way out with an eye toward saying, not only where are you right now? Right. Let's say you work at a sandwich shop. Okay. Well, maybe they could cater the next video shoot, but where are they going to go? What do they want? And is there something that I can do to help them get one step closer to their goals in exchange for them? Getting me one step closer to mind. Just reach out the community right. Find make connections, trade barter. There you go. Kinda commie kinda counting. Very socialist. W we wanna get another song from you. What are you gonna play. I last one. I think. Let's do. Let's do the cigarettes do. Let's do five out of six. This isn't a coup stick or. Okay. Giant simple thread. I'm not some method actors trying to see my my descent to going to have to play the tape back with same that breath. Acquire BRAC, got Tom detract standing on staircase. All you was a fire ahead. But my time in I'm vetted, uncontested, see on shuts down for the asking questions on her arms wide hide, nothing done it on broad daylight. I left the cameras run. And. I signing in a Kim sequence is on p. c. something. See something go ahead. Well, see them. He finds a way to. Scan. The crowd is common on, don't see too many rivals. Now. I don't need an agenda. I still truth, let it off the, these don't touch. It knows what to do. I'm running a tight ship. Every canton has a plan, an ice, pick coat the drive, stick them on you. Wanna height kick. Don't link auto black, a bleed. All I do is I don't want them all, but I'd say take about six Cox glove up, imbue insists. Okay. Let's see who's really counting coup and who's been kind of a free. Bash. Seed is key. See something say, I. Faded down. In find a way to. Scana grad is dumb. I don't see many rivals now cut my own gills with a knife. Cernan mapping is in the second Valey. Those daily does daily dose of lightning just both enough to get me climbing up the kite string back? Zeta, my Bill too tired about a tip to this pencil fight. No luck just put a fad dice. I'm going on in. I'm in. Isan Fain and man. I sign in the c. is. Keep sees been, go ahead, say something. I ain't a fait. Don't drown. Well, see. Oh, wait, arise, somehow, scan. The crowd is gum out. The don't see too many rivals. Now. And he read is signing Cam. Basma seed is not see something. Go ahead, say something. I don't. Say down in fines away to rise somehow scan. The crowd is common out and don't see too many right. Five out of six by Desa darling, Margaret wander. Well, we'd be taste people keep wondering who the hell Bob wander is out of your Dan. Matthew Santos in a really special strip down, semi, acoustic, perform all acoustic all acoustic performance at the goose island. Tapper. Thanks so much guys for coming in. They wraps up our conversation with Desa at goose island taproom in Chicago, and we have video of her performance at sound opinions, dot org. We always want to hear from you let us know what you think and why on our hotline eight, eight, five, nine hundred or via Twitter or Facebook. When we come back, if for short break, we'll give our opinions on the latest from some sprite, young thing from Liverpool circle McCartney. That's a minute on sound opinions from WBZ. Chicago NPR. They go to get you. Dry. Two. Juneau. Why. This is sound opinions. I'm Jim, dear goddess, he is Greg cod and that is the one and only surp- Paul McCartney with a track called. I don't know from his seventeenth studio, solo album, Egypt station who needs to introduce Paul McCartney. He had this band back in the sixties, you know, and then he went onto wings right. You know, Paul has not given us a new album of new material for five years, and he's been everywhere doing a lot of promo for this album. He wants the world to know that it's out there. Let's play a track and we'll come back and give our opinions on the latest from Paul McCartney. This is a song called who cares from Egypt station on sound opinions. People say things. Making. Stew. Who cares from the new Paul McCartney record Egypt station? Well, who cares? You know, it is one of the questions. The mckearney Seventy-six years older is going to be people who are Beatles fans are going to buy everything McCartney records. Is this record speaking to a new generation of music listeners? That is a good question because I'm not sure I have a great answer for it. I do think that McCartney still has vitality to the way he's able to write songs melodies that is unrivalled and I think he found a good match in Greg Curson who is a classically trained composer who can sort of complement the compositional strengths that McCartney has. If we look too closely McCartney's lyrics, we got into some dire dire straits here because he's about six sentences to, you know, McCartney's he's hit and miss as a lyricist. Let's put it that way. There are some songs on your that I think are quite interesting lyrically to say the least happy with you is a song that he casually rolls out these. Ideas that, oh, by the way, lied to my doctor. I used to drink too. To go. These days. What is you. So he's gotta giving you some inside, you know dope about his personal life. And I think there are some moments on this record that have some genuine strength to them. That song we just played, who cares? I like McCartney in trashy garage rock mode. I think that's a nice nice feel for him. I love the acid folk McCartney of dominoes and confidante there. Some really trippy surrealistic lyrics confidante east talking about butterflies wearing boots. You know, it may wearing. Exactly. Bad. World flies when on the move. Stump around the forest chance. Loves and. Then there's these progressive rock tunes at the end of the record that are dislike. Wow. Do sound like Frankenstein here going to talk about despite repeated warnings? Yeah, despite rhyming planet and Janet. Yeah, and not in the sense of rocky horror picture show. I actually think that's a fairly interesting track. It's interesting yet. No, not. That's the thing he's you kind of went overboard and then the Ryan tenure track, Ryan kind of the ringer in here. He's the hit. Dr that full you song. I just. Wow, that's that's a dire McCartney right there. Look, you know, you raise this obliquely if this came to us via anyone other than Paul McCartney Ryan, who is a treasure who has earned the right, like Bob Dylan to do whatever he wants at age, seventy six. I don't know if we would care. There are some tunes here that rank with his absolute all-time. Worst. I'm talking like up there with ebony and ivory and silly love songs. Listen to back in Brazil, right. On top of this show like bossa Nova groove, you know, he's telling us nights for dancing days are for sun like, oh my God. And then it builds to the courses or the bridges when everyone to call them itchy bond issue, bond issue bond chanted repeatedly. You know it, that is just so embarrassingly bad. Obviously he is in that rare realm of superstardom and genius where nobody can come and say, hey, Paul buddy, you know, not one. That's not enough. You know what I mean? The fact is, will you ever played this record again, they are easily twenty five records. He's either been part of a band for we'll never, but I do play and cherish the firemen records made that those EDM forays with youth. I'm still intrigued by the Liverpool sound collage record with the super furry animals. I love run. Devil run, you know, which is what? Fifteen years old now or something. Twenty years old. It was just him playing the songs. He fell in love with as a sixteen year old Rockin roller. This is not in the top twenty or twenty five or thirty Paul McCartney releases in. Oh, and there's just no reason to care for it wasn't a using. It's completely worthless. I would say there's, I think there's about. Four or five songs on your there? I think are pretty pretty close to top tier McCartney. They're not allow masterpiece out there. Again, who cares Domino's confidential and sees a rock. I just think is a weirdo funk track that I kind of like, I don't know the more in the that's a fireman track that should have been on the fire. First few times I listen. I'm like, okay, this is pleasant enough and I started here lyrics, and then I started realize where he had recycled all of those melodies before where they came from, you know, this is nothing here. So you fast. Seeing me say you want so much more. I tell you buddy. This whole island was boom. We together. As often as possible here on sound opinions. One of us takes a trip to the desert island and plays a song. We can't live without Mr. Kat. It's your turn, Jim. We just passed the anniversary of nine, eleven seventeen th anniversary and we all I don't think we'll ever forget that day as long as we live anybody who was alive during that time and conscious is was gonna. Remember that day. I remember so many things. I remember though some songs that were swirling around in my brain all that week prior to nine eleven occurring and they hang with me still. I hear those songs and they remind me of that day and to came out that day, can you remember to pretty significant albums know about that? Nine, eleven two thousand one. They were album released as correct. They were on Tuesdays, slayers. God hates us all and Bob Dylan's love and theft. And so. Those two Elms. I've been listened to a lot in the week leading up to it. In fact, my reviews ran that day in the Tribune and you know, nobody's reading the paper that all like fricking lewd to the TV living through this horror on their television sets. God hates us all kind of says it all. I mean, that's, you know, you'd think, wow, talk about something that people were feeling that day like how can this happen? And the Dylan album love and theft as just brimming with imagery of disaster and apocalypse never more so than in the song high water for Charley Patton, Charlie Patton's original song, high water everywhere was written about the great Mississippi flood of nineteen twenty seven an apocalyptic disaster that rivals the the nine eleven. You know disaster the in our country, the great flood of nineteen twenty seven. Basically wiped out a good chunk of the south twenty seven thousand square miles where thirty feet under water displacing six hundred thirty thousand. The people. A lot of people say the day I asked for really got a huge boost because of that people had nowhere to live and that's why they started coming north and Prestage the the great depression of years later because they the the economy was just wiped out in the same way. Dylan is you know, paying tribute to the author that's on Charlie Patton and also the the sense of doom that everybody was living through at the time and to have that song come out on nine eleven. It was just too unreal. This song is is haunting. I listen to couple things Dylan's voice. Those lyrics, Larry, Campbell's banjos is is the driving force on the record as well as David campers drums. There's something about the rumble in those drums that's still sends chill down my spine. It's like those levees breaking and the and the water tumbling down. And I tell you every time nine eleven rolls around. I hear this Bob Dylan from love and theft, high water for Charley Patton and sound. Bass. The golden still be stolen away. Big, turn eastern on the rule of his. City. Feet. Stamm. Folks news. That that leave town that them basis should get real good. Is she. Alot they nets with evening teddy to. That's all. And. Pave in love, pleases feed, hopped up Mustang. Kevin, do the wagon wheel ban is of aboard. Ken Rex, you make stone. Men lose. I'm no big without a way. Things Brigham out. Arrive six inches the my. On stopping in feedback balloons out of. Vicksburg Donna. What I do reach out to me, she say, can you see on. High water for Charley Patton by Bob Dylan Greg's desert island jukebox, pick this week, Greg. What do we have on the show next week? Next week distracts artists settling their scores through music. The people. With the Komen barrels by like a pedal to defecating kit to censor, you're still pedal to the bench. Greg. We have some taxes on the way out Colin Ashmead baba help with the recording of Desa and sound opinions was produced by Brandon Benedek Alex clayborn on a contrary, Andrew gale, we also bid farewell this week to Hannah Edgar. I hope we haven't ruined her life too much. Then the full. Girl girl for me. Unsound opinions, everyone's a critic. So now it's time to hear what you have to say. Messages. Game and Greg, this is Scott from Gary, Indiana, and I've been a long time listening. I'm so glad that you guys finally gave disco respected deserve. One thing. I think you guys omitted from your dissection was the great Tony Thompson, who's actually the drummer? She one of the greatest Thomas, whoever live. When lead you up when one of the drummer when they reconfigured for one off gig at Live Aid, they could have had any time in the world to replace town Bonham HBO's, Tony, Kahn. He was great. Keep up with you guys doing and makes you tell everyone about Tony times of. Hi, my name's Kate. I'm from the Philly area and I wasn't alive during the disco era, but I used to work at this really big craft store one day something we with the playlist and it just turned into this huge disco playlist had tons of Donna summer's feed. You got the hospital on it. It was great. Like just listening to the happy music. I would hear my coworkers singing. We would find customers dancing in the aisles. And one day I went in and stop using it and work was just never seen. Thank you. And I hope you have a great day. I just wanted to call and thank you guys for the rebroadcasting on their on. Go. I just thought, however, you miss a couple of things and saying that disco influence the John rouse like rap, you neglect to mention the impact that it had on how. The origins of house music are directly a result from disco, the vibe attitudes, musicianship the whole thing, and no disaffected on summer, but Melita Holloway is the true Queen of. Didn't wanna thank you for the tribute to disco, and thank you for not mentioning disco in your tribute, even though I just did. Hi, this is Bob from New York guys. I love your show. Did not appreciate the cheap shot at this graders. Sorry, it's not that we dislike the music because of prejudice against women, gay minorities, my friends who grew up in, yes, mostly white, suburban New York, who teams in the seventies and discos heyday and did not like this, go because it flat out sucked. The whole scene had an uncouth. It was mindless had sad, fashioned sensibility. I mean, come on polyester suits and whistles around next. You gave a nice history, great that you like the music. Please cut us some slack and don't cast Spurs and people. Disagree. Thanks. Hi, Jim in Greg, the SE is Sam calling from Austin, Texas, and response to your what is the most wonderful thing that fire records released? My view is that it was the rerelease of the nuggets compilation, which I absolutely would be without. Too much. Wonderful one hits that otherwise, what it and fire put it back out and I mind was flown. My nineteen year old mind was easier lows in it is today. No more messages to share your opinions on sound. Opinions. Call eight, eight, five, nine eighteen hundred. We'll be back next week on sound opinions from WBZ, Chicago and distributed by PR ex.

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Should They Stay or Should They Go? Pop Stars and Retirement

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Should They Stay or Should They Go? Pop Stars and Retirement

"The New York Times podcast here on core, do you want more of music criticism? I'm John. Say. Some people just don't know what to quit in some people quit perhaps too soon. I was thinking about this a lot in last couple of weeks. When we came in, you were listening to your boy famed, Connie, west collaborator, bombed Garni. And that was a song called who cares off of his new album, which is called Egypt station. And I was thinking about that because Paul was on the cover of g. q.. We talked about this last week on pop Gaz, celebrity profile episode Ethel Paul was like very loose, but also here's a guy who like doesn't need to be making albums, doesn't need to be releasing to be interviewed for the governor of any magazine. You can just happily or easily rest on his laurels for the rest of diamond and have a great life. But here he is still out here doing the work. And so that was on my mind and then John relics, our chief pop critic wrote a notebook about the farewell tours of Paul, Simon and Joan Baez to people who have said enough, and I thought, well, let's have a conversation about who sticks around and why, and who leaves. So JP is here. I'm still here. You're here. You're sticking around. I'm sticking around me TD. Depends. I feel different on different days. Let's start with McCartney. What is your vibe on Egypt station? Doesn't feel like an essential mckearney project is a feel like it's up to snuff with his earlier work. It's real up and down album. It's got some God's. It's got some sweetness to it. Reminds me actually of his first solo album called McCartney of him. Just like hanging out in the studio. I'm gonna knock some songs together. You know, that album comes up with, maybe I'm amazed which does not have a, maybe I'm amazed on it, but the kind of sweet. I mean, it's it's it's real sort of bifurcated album. Some songs he's like, hey, baby, I'm after you. I'm Randy. I'm frisky. And then other ones like the like, who cares? He's like the kindly grandpa? Yeah, Paul's real Thurston Moji on this and I was surprised because that's also kind of how he is in the in the queue story, right? Like its, I o loose just out here being loose. Well, you know, I noticed this with a lot of older performers. The way Leonard Cohen was when he was doing his stores in his eighties joined by as when I saw her at the beacon, the other night, they're, they're relaxed. They've got nothing more to prove they can just stand there be themselves. They know their fans are with them. They're not being harshly judged. They can take their time. They're loose, it's a relaxation. You're not gonna seem doing a frantic dance routine and timing themselves with the video. Right? And I don't know. I find it kind of refreshing and away from the concert experience of the video era. It's a break. It's a human breath rhythm, instead of machine rhythm. Do you think that that rhythm or that change in rhythm goes hand in hand with the impulse to stick around or not stick around like some people, maybe Paul McCartney's at a phase in his career where that is a viable and enjoyable way to do shows. But maybe at some point, he'll just decide, I don't want to do like that's not for me anymore shows really. Actually, they're pretty tight arena. Spectacles. They've got big video going on. I got click tracks near years. So any performs he's very mechanized, but I suspect that his. Comfort zone. His happy place is in the studio. Oh, let's pull out that Qatar. Let's try this riff. That's bang out a few chords on the via no, in, you know, whatever half a day later, he's got another song who knows. Cardia might be ten minutes later. Right? I mean, I just think that his ease is making music. It just pours out of him. I think the difference I think the difference between people who retire or crews on the oldies or go and make new songs is how how much pleasure they get out of it and how much pain they get out of it. Well, that's okay. So to that point because obviously you've interviewed so many people over the course of your career. And also I think you probably interviewed more people nearer to the end of their career than I have when you talk to those folks, is that what it comes down to is at about pleasure? Is that really the choice? Yeah, I think so. I mean, there's not a lot of pressure. There's not a lot of financial sometimes the Leonard Cohen, there was a financial financial incentive. Sure. But near the end of his life when he started like knocking out an album every year, it was like, I interviewed him. He said, I've got a deadline death, you know, he felt his mortality upon him and he wanted to get out what he could get out. So there is that I mean, McCartney is is not in his eighties. He's in his mid seventies as Simon as Joan by is they're, they're pretty spry, right? I'm not worried about them, but I mean, Joan Baez is still seeking out new songs. She she, she didn't Anthony and the Johnson sawn at the beacon. I mean, you know, she's still looking around to be Bruce Springsteen once. And you know, he said, you know what's not to like about being onstage and having thousands of people shout their love for you. I mean, I do think that that must be an addictive feeling. I mean, there must be some fair moans activated when you're standing on stage and people were just applauding, you know, on their feet for you, but would you give that up? But also these are people. Not just talking about Torah. We're talking about making new records. Mckearney could easily tour off of catalog without Egypt station. This doesn't have to exist, nobody, but I think his place, I think he likes it. I think that's what he wants to do in the morning is go up and play. Some tunes make up some new stuff. You do get sensibly Cardi in particular that there's just as youthful wonderment about music in whatever he does. I mean, even his sort of dud songs, have a catchy tune have a funny little guitar lick. There's all that ingenuity and playfulness in the even when I'm not thrilled with the songs, you can tell that there's a guy who really just likes playing his guitar and putting stuff together speaking of Doug, should we play the dud. We should. Let's let's okay, so there's a song on this album with. I think it's less of a dud than you do, but it's like, obviously it's a l. so this is a song on this album called you, which we don't have to bleep because it's only the. And is written and produced written with and produced by Ryan center of one Republican is perhaps my favorite pop music producer of the twenty century Dr. Tonight. Him get out. Now for Paul McCartney this is a forward looking for John Kerry Monica. This is backward looking something, but you know, I understand. I mean, look, he's not gonna go in the studio with take key, although I'd love to hear going to take, but mckearney you know, he did a says, she did sessions with gonyea and you know, in that's buried somewhere in there. But why this? I feel like if you're going to take a step out of your comfort zone this and maybe not the right stuff. That's how I feel. I'm agreeing with you on his. This is like frisky grandpa, please? No, yeah, let's not. Let's not. But at the same time, there is something perverse about it. I thought where I was like, well, that's the point you like, yeah, no, not not perverse. In terms of the subject matter. Just perverse of the idea that Paul McCartney sat in a room and thought this was a good idea and that a bunch of people then subsequently did not stop him from putting this out there, even promoting it isn't as angle, quote, unquote, single, whatever that would be. I think it's getting the push. Oh my gosh. I guess. If you go see Paul McCartney concert at some point, perhaps he will sing fi you to to you so so probably only on one tour and then he will retire. But if he does that, please Email us a pop gasoline types dot com and tell us how uncomfortable it is so. Okay. So Paul McCartney they happen to be to Paul's. We're touching on today. Paul McCartney sticking around Paul. Simon, Simon has made it clear that he is not quitting is quitting touring. Sure, that's. But it's half, it's a half quit. It's have quit in ways giving up the addictive stuff, at least the stuff that we've talked about as being addictive right, going out and being showered with praise night in night out, he did do great show. Tell me about the experience. I saw the show twice. I thought when the tour began in Vancouver. Right? And I saw the grand finale in queens, Flushing Meadows, corona park, okay. They don't usually do concerts put it was a big flat place, the best place for outdoor music. Yup, no echoes and. You could hear every little triangle it short. It had been planned meticulously by Paul Simon for the fourteenth bar of that particular sewn. But it was a two and a half hour show. He did some dance steps in the cage number and he has fourteen piece band, a chamber music sex, Ted, and button accordion. And so he had every facet of his music and played to perfection because he's meticulous, perfectionist wise. Paul, Simon quitting during, I think twice kind of probably the travel. It cetera is probably kind of a drag after while the downtime, the stuck in the even the even if the buzzes luxurious. I just think it's it's wearing to be on the road, but he's very carefully said he's stopping touring. It won't stop him from playing an acoustic Lee pristine hall. You know, he could play Carnegie Hall play, bam. He could look at Springsteen. He can do Simon on Broadway for short months on end few years ago there was that. Frequent kademi music series where he didn't have them a night. That was that's very comfortable. And it was great to hear. There's also meticulous with lots and lots of musicians, so he could do version of what Billy Joel's doing has been doing the garden shows do shows. Yeah. So you do version of that? He could. And he's also made clear that he's not stopping writing songs. But I mean, unlike McCartney who they seem to pour out of, I mean, Simon is meticulous and painstaking and things take a long time to be made. I don't think it's as facile as McCartney short, but he's still doing good stuff. One of the things that I'm sure much of the tour audience did not know this song wristband, which we should play, which is okay, which got people on the feet because it's got a great bass riff with quiz Flamenco handclapping on top because it's Paul, Simon, and it's about class warfare. It's about the entitled versus the unin titled recorded in two thousand sixteen before the election. It's a great song. It's catchy. It's smart. He's still thinking, and I don't want him to go. Check. Screaming. Stay. Viz. This. You don't get the dole. This is Sam sift and food editor of the New York Times, whether you're just starting out in the kitchen or looking to up your game, why t cooking is here with more than nineteen thousand times tested recipes and all the help you need cook them. Well, subscribed today at n. y. t. cooking dot com slash podcast. Hey, this is Android Sorkin from the New York Times. We're getting ready for the big deal book conference in New York City. This year takes place on November first, and we'd be talking about some of the biggest issues at the intersection of business in policy. We've assembled some of the brightest minds for one day all on the same stage. The CEO's of Google Goldman Sachs twenty th Century Fox Snapchat, General Motors Mark in so many more. I'm gonna be asking some pretty tough questions about provocative issues in the hottest topics of the day. If you want to get in on it, you can check it out n. y. t. deal conference dot com. Hope to see there. Can we talk about generational stuff? Because I feel like my generation and certainly the John that I grew up in which is Bob has not yet fully contended with old-age. It's just really contending with middle age. Right, right. Not fully contended with old age, and I wonder if you can talk generational about. Learning to accept that your youth icons or youthful idols would become adults and would become older adults and accepting that kind of emotionally, but then also creatively. Well, I think it's still kinda resented the Rolling Stones, grew up. I think that music is attached. I think maybe even physiologically to our youth. Yeah, this stuff that hits us in our teens and early twenties is our music, and I kind of pity the people who stuck with what they are stuck with now But in. In a general sense? I don't know. I mean, people people go to the Rolling Stones concert here, satisfaction. They don't go to hear whatever song, Nick and Keith squeezed out between feuds. You know that that that's the bathroom break. I mean, people are going to eagles concerts to hear songs heard in the seventies sure people aren't going to eagles concert not. They're not writing any new songs, but they're selling out stadiums, right? But those people are going to access an old feeling. But I think there's a difference between ban like the eagles you know, continuing after the death of one of their principles and playing the old songs. Again, they're trading brand loyalty and style. Paul, Simon really doesn't wanna trade enough style, right. He had to. He had his sort of convince himself to do the Graceland anniversary tour because he did not want to be stuck looking back. He stuck new songs that he knew no one wanted to hear in the middle of this grand finale he, he accepted the sort of sagging of. Interest in writing phones part of the concert because he wanted people here those songs. Do you think that's what it is doing? That's living that separates those who walk away versus those stick around? Is those your stick around are sort of in a sense still tinkering still wondering not just with like new song or new ideas, but also with their own conception of their artistry. I think that's exactly it. I think that they're still curious Alicia the eagles in which case you're deeply in curious. So it seems Gino let's play them eagles. That's. That's. The hell freezes over tour. You gotta remember they did a farewell tour church. Wait true story. When the Dixie member in the Dixie chicks open for the eagles in like, oh, eight, zero, nine, right. I went to that tour strictly to review. I think we you and I spoke about it. I went only to review the Dixie chicks because to me it was more meaningful as a Dixie chicks reunion than as an eagles door. And I remember I feel like it was one of the first conversations that you and I had where I was like, I don't know if we are agreeing on this because I think you were like, you should review the whole show, and I was like, I don't wanna watch the eagles. To school? Sorry, I just anyway, all by paid the price for that because I left, I took mass trans out there. There's in Newark, not newer giant stadium, and there were no buses because I let mill the show over there was no exactly get back to your job. Do Justa Dina and Jodi though who I met in the parking lot, which capitol train station and all became friends. So you know not a total anyway. The eagles. Yeah. Badri not playing the eagles. Okay. Manager of patriots refusing to play the eagles. Take it easy, but yes, it's that tinkering emboli, right. Well, yeah. I mean, I mean, Simon has redone, you know. You know, doesn't of his songs for a new album. Out of doesn't maybe ten for new album. We'd like completely new new arrangements, turning them inside out. He mean, he's still, how do I make these words changing lyrics? He's he's changing, feels it's, it's it's a musicians project. I mean, you do get the feeling that the people who who continue to at least try to make vital albums are still interested in the process songwriters such a weird mysterious process anyway, right? I mean, what do you do that blank page or that you know that eastern sitting in front of you and you have to stay curious to do it can't really write a song people have tried. Yes, but let let's talk about that. The the hip hop generation that we're all you guys are saying, you know, five year career and I'm done yet. So I think this sort of started with, I can't say with a hundred percent certainty, but I feel pretty Cerna started with Jay z. there was a point when he was when the blackout came out and he's like there's a, there's a long ways. I dropped the black album and back out. I think he hadn't understanding at that time and this is of course you know, what are we talking about ten years ago, twelve fourteen years ago. There was an understanding that hip hop was not. Avaiable pursuit for a fifty year older sixty year old. Basically, whatever covenant with the devil mickan Keith have strung. No one in hip hop has struck nut or at least not then, but that's changed because hip hop became bigger and more central to the pop music discourse and more people rely on financially and Jay z has big tour obligations to live nation. So all of a sudden Jay's going to be on the road for really long time, whether with his wife or alone that's he'll be performing. I would imagine into his fifties. And I think other figures Konya probably will also be performing into their fifties. And that's not something that I think you know, I was asking the generational question before. It's not something I think my generation as yet reckoned with because like run DMC is not currently doing a an arena tour will they're not able to fill an arena right? But there isn't a figure of that generation that can still sell at that level in a live context and also is still tinkering and putting out new music. So that's not something that generation was had to reckon with yet. I mean, I wonder if it's also a baby boomer thing where we saw our parents have long careers. People. People could stay in jobs and keep doing wow work at a salaryman salaryman ethic. Oh my God. And so get Konomi just washed. Yes, it's, I mean, the gig economy has come to rock home on hop, hang up. Do you think that's it? Do you think that people accepted the fact that making Keith and whoever are just plugging away into their seventies was that's how they understand the nature of American work. Even though the the Rolling Stones are obviously British, but eating that it's like almost like an American work ethic that people have come to accept also there. He's these guys also grew up. On the blues guys and blues guys didn't have health insurance. They don't get interesting till they're sixty or seventy. I mean they didn't have pinched. They didn't have health insurance. They didn't have anything they were out on the road. I mean they and those were their role models. So someone like Bonnie Raitt who still great live. I mean, I still like seeing the Rolling Stones. These people who were steeped in the blues. They thought you can do it for a long time. They thought there's Engevity the focus in the blue skies they, they didn't see themselves as pop flash in the pants. And that's interesting. You talk about folk and blues. I we can throw country and there's certainly you think of the country music tradition age is not really ally ability at least not. I mean, up until maybe like ten years ago, but agent, reliability in the country, mute tradition, you know, and certainly like you have Willie Nelson down here, do hydrate or two hundred a year and still toying with his own songs. Yeah, putting out how many times God willing every couple of months it's really mind blowing. It's really. He's like a soundcloud rapper. It really is just raising dropping just dropping arbitrary records. And. Will. Round. Now you see, no santeria. When I get my my. Brands. Come on. When I done. Romea smokey. I saw Willie. I remember. Spry just fine, but also just alert live in the moment. You know he's an improviser. Yeah. I mean, I think that's another thing keeps people alive is when it doesn't become a recitation when it doesn't become a routine now reminded, and this is maybe a little off track of where I thought we were gonna go. But I'm reminded of a couple of shows that I've had to review back when we still reviewed. Live shows. I'm reminded of a couple of late career. Live shows that I reviewed that thought were just heartrending an awful. I'm thinking, Loretta Lynn, who I reviewed, and this is maybe even before the Jack white record. But I reviewed or maybe like the nj pack and man, it was like she actually said to her band. She was forgetting words and set your band like play something. We know. You know, it was very hard. It was dark and then Glen Campbell, obviously that, yeah, that was. No year before he passed, I think. And it was just incredibly challenging. I couldn't kind of figure out what the covenant with the audience was at that point because you know you're seeing the person in decay or if you don't know, you figure it out quickly. What's the tradeoff there? I found it really hard as a critic, but also just as a fan, I didn't know. It's it's not the performance you necessarily wanted to come home with. Yeah. Have you had more experiences? I saw Frank Sinatra in his declining years and forgetting the words, the New York, New York. If I remember in and that's hard to watch because you can see the the musicality struggling with the instrument, and it's it's hard to watch. On the other hand, I wanted to never seen Frank Sinatra new. I never seen again. So there is that privilege of being there in the room with Frank Sinatra right room being Rena, but it is hard to watch. You don't want to have that the your last memory. Right. I do think nuts. Daljit paints over what you're seeing. Sometimes nest algae is the auto tune. No, that's a good point. In a way you're seeing what you wanna see? Yeah, you're seeing what you remember from the millions of times you've played it at home. Yeah, no, that's an interesting point. I think probably as as critics, we bring slightly different bearings to to moments like that. But I guess maybe as as just a paying fan, maybe differently. Of course, you wanna see somebody in their total prime, but you know, are you Leonard Cohen was in his prime in eighties? Yes, sure. He was good when he was young do, but he stayed in his prime. He when he was a kid, his songs like mortality and in God haunted. Yeah. So he he, he was ready to be an old man. Madonna is not going to be so so ready to be an old woman? No, no. But I wanted you, Madonna. We'll tour into her seventies. I actually asked her once and she said, you know, Ella Fitzgerald did, and I said, quietly, Ella Fitzgerald, kinda head a stronger voice. Oh, I did not. But she she might. I mean, if her toward depends on dancing as much as it does, it'll be interesting to see how she adapt to circle back to something you were saying earlier or the you brought up earlier about kind of a younger generation and their relationship to retiring. So there is this sort of motif in hip-hop of like on the do three albums out. I feel like you even see this with Twenty-three-year-old rappers now where they're just like done, dropping this five part series. And then I'm done with the game. It's like sort of a hubristic thing for a young man to say, who's may meet, you know, making millions of dollars in a very compressed time period and just be like, that's it. I'm gonna earn TK million dollars ten twenty thirty and then retire somewhere. But also it's interesting because they don't understand their career as long as one jeopardy play. Do you think that that's how Rockstars were in the sixties. Seventies as well. They were just like, we're gonna be done by the time we're thirty five, or do you think they were like now we're in it. I think in in in the early days rock known expected it to last right and they were being managed by people who who were thinking, you know, teen idol boy band, you got three years. You're done right there. There was no sense that that you would you would keep doing it for pop for for that end of it for the folk and blues witted people, there was a sense that it was the lifelong Quist. 'cause also like was sorta like this year part of this continuum? Yeah. I mean, you can look at Pete Seeger to, I mean, you could look at older performance who had kept doing it. There were, there were mentors. I do think that once you get into it and you getting that addictive faira Mon rush from the audience and I'm sure the lifestyle isn't so bad. You can say, well, those three albums were really one of them and I'm gonna make another three hour, right? You know, those were all one piece of work I would. I would just kidding about the time line, although that's how that's how it is with like. Ghana or young thug now it's like that's weird way. I sometimes don't feel I'm reviewing albums reviewing like arrows or you know, like most stretches. Yeah, that's out. Feels. Another career comparison might be sports. I mean, how long can you play pro basketball. Right. How long can play football? You gotta make money and be done, but you could play golf. Golfer very long time. It's true out to all my golfing buddies. Not that I golf, but I do have buddies Gulf. So actually, let's talk about something that feels like maybe kind of like a purgatory state somewhere in between retired and not retired, and that is Las Vegas. I know in the last few years I have fled Vegas on a few Asians to review the opening nights of some residencies I did Shinohara and then I didn't Mariah very infamously to some people. So that's like a place where I think a lot of people have started to go certainly of a younger generation. It's not quite the, it's not the ratpac anymore. It's a very different energy, but it is this kind of nebulous like quasi retirement. And I wonder if you can talk about Las Vegas as like this trapped in amber moment, limited phase phase. I mean, it's it's it's an oldies review to, and but the good side of it is no travel, right? No sound. Check all of the things that touring get. Really tired of fine. I'm I go to the office at eight PM and put my costume and I'm done by whatever. Eleven, right, Britney, too. I totally forgot about Britney. You can't forget it. You can't. I mean there is that advantage just as a practical of practical matter also Vegas you can do all the razzle dazzle. They're set up production, right? It's it's not like your opponent. A one man band. Right? And it's a way to make popstar still feel like Popstars especially when they may be don't have the touring draw that they used to have going around the country, right, or they don't have the new hits will definitely, no. I remember the Brian tower like the Mariah Vegas review is literally like the number ones. It's like just creative. Yeah, it's just a brutal assault of hits one of the next. I love Mariah. I don't wanna get an Email about Mariah. I have a very soft spot Meyer for Mariah Carey, but that was challenging night. But it's interesting because those are people who I think maybe in a slightly different era or economic moment would have quasi retired, perhaps, but have found this kind of like soft landing place. Well, you come back after your Vegas residency and put out a Buffalo New album. I mean, he should I? She did. She put it well, I don't know if it was buffalo, but she did put one out and Mariah guess is still releasing. Yes, but. Could Mariah still sell out in a renew to or around the country? Not one hundred percent. Sure. I think she could you. Yeah, people wanna see what she does. Yeah. I mean, people want that live experience. Did you go to the Mariah Lionel Richie tour. I missed it. I was so sad to miss it. Sorry, what a magical night that must've been. I wanna if you if anybody's listening to the Mariah Lionel Richie tour, please Email me and tell me how was. It was. But then there's then there's the farewell tour that that is kind of extended. I mean, Elton, John nonstop, his farewell tour, and it's going to go with three years. Yeah, doesn't really feel like a farewell which is just a little shorter than the share tour that was wealth door. I was looking for longest farewell tour and share seem to have like a dozen dates on him. So we'll have to see in the farewell tour is ongoing. Yeah, it just started. Oh, so it's going to go for three more years? Yeah, starting September. What do you think the point of that is to play to everybody wants to see him for one last time, but Joji gets ego gratification as well, ego stroking. I have no comment. But I think it's ego gratification. I can comment Tina Turner, who I never saw do a bad concert. She played a fiftieth anniversary tour. Two thousand eighteen thousand nine and she stopped. That's it. I don't think she nnounced. It was a farewell. I don't change. She not was fiftieth anniversary and then done. You're up the block album and then she backed out Jay. Jay z. said he was gonna do so it can't be done. But she also lives like a glamorous life like Switzerland, right? Hope. So who among us wouldn't with wouldn't do a farewell to mckernan at least apparently. So should we go out with a rousing, Tina Turner song? What's up. Must try. That's our show. Thanks to my guest. John prelates here. Man knows no quick admirable and something that everyone should aspire to. 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Men in Blazers 05/11/20: WGFOP: The Bald

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Men in Blazers 05/11/20: WGFOP: The Bald

"This is Rebecca Lowe. Will Rebecca if you listen to sub optimal radio and you on this thing to men in. Blazers on the NBC Sports Network. It's rural back like Steve Kerr's I slightly blackened but it will the better for being on the receiving end of Michael Jordan's fist. Apparently it's Monday and I am back home. The you had a weekend of weekends a Copa Dascomb Pass. You had some highs some moments of challenge to are you ready for my moment of true joy. Now if you're a regular listener you'll know well to not become one of the thousands of Americans who in Yuli Minted Bird enthusiasts picture. The scene. I'm on my morning. Walk on the rags with Finesse. We are soaking in the May. Woomph fleeting may warm for marveling. The pluck of the American robins and yellow throated warblers. You surround us from a distance of about two hundred yards spy it the single most stunning pure White Bird. I have ever seen leaping joyfully from branch to branch in the tree at grab my wife's home we both pause and delay in its choreography for about ten minutes. Jump Jump Tree Tree Spirit's soaring as we experienced the queen of spiritual natural high. Only communing with nature can create move closer eager to snap a photograph. So I cannot Lou to my iphone and bird idea just downloaded. It can reliably compute over six thousand species. Thank you cornell lap? It's about to enlighten me. And then it has not recognized and when that happens I mean for more sure the we are privy to an incredibly rat out of region possibly out of country gooding experience so snap off hundreds of photos in Chevik closer. Which strangely doesn't seem to faze the tool what a brazen beast it was only when the jumped out of the tree suddenly transforming itself into we totally horizontal shape before laying landing limply flatow on the water surface that I realized I've been watching and fetish izing a lodge discarded Napkin. Which had just become entangled in the tree branches about this in today's newsletter and two big takeaways number one? I wouldn't exchange those ten glorious minutes of exhilarating birdwatching anything and the fact that we ultimately just looking at garbage does not diminish the experience and number two. This whole thing is clearly a metaphor for something and I mean not just Everton season but one is exactly sure what you be the judge who has big week at Mo Karl Lloyd. It's joins US six thirty PM Wednesday for Budweiser happy. Hour may thirty six thirty. Pm Eastern time. Send us you questions for that. Back about. War Cut winning now and also Wednesday. Oh my God my the tingling because my hero Jason is belt joins US home Wednesday to the singer whose Alba reunions comes out. They sweet we will talk about creativity. Ten acetate the human spirit all the little issues and other than Tracy Chapman and Philip Larkin and I guess Primo Levi is bell is a single guest of long listening and revere this bloop storytelling Kennel. Wait to share that interview with you. Roll on Wednesday okay. You all the W. J. F. O. P. bulled six four six four five zero nine. Four seventy your questions to be butchered by my Hoffa's stances sting me up baby. Oh yeah another sting influenced by my career. As one of Liverpool's most influential breakdown says here now. Football soccer. Whatever you save US Jenna Q. You work afraid of you do kick Utah trying to trying to reach. My goal. Line around ball cannot kick you saw sub. Optimal Radio Sucks never play. It adds to the oath piece. Also we know it's called the ball the ball the ball down Marshall. 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Let's say hey ray slash self-styled Hardman Neil Ruddock Razor Ruddock remembering leveling some fringe player. Who Roy on the floor in pain as you do and another French play came up. Ruddock to try and Confronts Him and instead Oh did his hand in front of his nose backwards and forwards while pulling Osama faces if the mine yes golick breath and the whole of unfilled. Let me just tell you? They bellowed louder than when Liverpool. Actually you know school to go. Jingoistic breath mine. Is the best mind questioned tape. Hi Roger This is Mary. Chen from San Ramon California birthplace of Austin Matthews. And I'm an Everton Fan. You stayed at Everton Fan because of your father. But if you're an alien from another planet Earth to choose a primarily cup to support what would it be and why thanks for responding courage Mary. Chen believe emergent life. But one of my belief says you can't be hypothetical by history. Say just like we don't work out the small things like what would have happened to the Second World War Against Hitler it worked. I can't imagine if I was an alien from another planet. What do wonder if it would be an alien would have had quite interesting book. There is no me without my Everton. Suppor is such a huge poem identity aucoin mansion a world without or a roach without that. There are things definitely that I admire about other clubs trip but if it's fleeting taught them on the Poetry Tina there can be no big signings youth academy product one after another. He's one of our own unfurling. A fierce young collective. I admired that I'd might southampton around the porch. To Kumin era that youth development machine that Liverpool Liverpool picked apart Norwich and Huddersfield. I love the tiny budget one. Does they really do a Pale Baltimore? I am fascinated by this questions of allegiance and support mostly because well welcome back. Bundesliga this weekend and like so many American funds. I'm going to watch full-throatedly with relatively fresh always and the desire for a rooting interest at Loesch Alka. I am fascinated by how thousands of you will charge into that league and how you will define you emotional attachments tomorrow. Athletic Senior Writer rougher on Eckstein joins us to tell us all. You'll need to know to rot. This weekend's Jomon action that's for the Premier League that we know and love curious day of waiting for the Premier League powers-that-be to thrash out differences on another massive. Oh seismic zoom cool again. You know the British government. Today issued a fifty page paper this morning. Green Lighting Return of sport after June. The first as long as it's behind closed doors status. They hope to maintain as long as a country is able to stabilize quote. The pandemic live crowds not foreseen until a time vaccine emerges. This news widely received to mead. Brace yourself the Premier League's aspiration return date of June. Twelfth may be made real four main hurdles. The must be overcome basic questions when that start they wear. The use of mutual. Stadia is a massive massive debating point in moment. The police will cut down the drain on lamp. I'm wet prevent funds from traveling around behind that teams to the huge sticking point because so many of the club's say as a matter of sporting integrity. That home games are you know home and away games light. Wise and a group of up to ten Premier League teams rumored to be stunned the against the use of neutral grounds on that basis. That is the story to keep watching as unfolds. The question of how the health protocols the details of mass hygiene quarantine risk management. You know all that big stuff and then with whom you know an unfolding issue we believe is going to spiral this week as we've not really heard from the players and when we have it's not been overwhelmingly positive there is a fair that we've heard from KUNA. Esguerra makes aggressively articulated yesterday. A third brain play tested positive for Kovic because North City Bieber taught cam well to tweet which people to to the primarily has to get that buy in this league reality is so different to the premier league reality. Bundesliga is in Germany. Where they flatten the curve with authority Britain has been the worst hit European nation with over thirteen thousand deaths. I mean as a human dauntless so the big news so far today that the intransigent position the bottom six the rebel six who threatened by relegation coincidentally decided the almost all the conditions of return amounted to take a different league a different competition. Sporting integrity was bad drumbeat. They been on the somewhat by the Football Association. That oversees all football. In Britain today declaring their season will be played out. And if it's not it will be decided on sporting merit with results projected so there will be a combination one way or another three teams will go down the will be relegation so play on and stop me a. Win Jing. It's coming back people next question. Good afternoon Mr Roger. Bennett's my name is Allesandro and I I've in Brooklyn My favorite club from back home is when you're in touch with some Doria. I like to say to Everton of Italian football but more specifically my clump. I've always supported in England has been West Ham United. And my very simple question to you as a matter of football in the manner. Closer refers to The believe Ground Upton Park one of the Cathedral's football in the United Kingdom and in East London that completely completely got to obliterated a few years ago. And today I read unfortunately the Victoria pub one of the last standing institutions of that whole neighborhoods next to Upton Park closed officially for business forevermore and You know defenestration the soul of Wisdom United Proper as a club The New Stadium is is in my humble opinion. Not even close to to what it should be for a club like like West time and looking for is that your club Everton. I've heard that there there are plans to construct it stadium very simply took. Are you concerned about the social fabric of the neighborhoods around criticism park another great cathedral of the sport or do you think that the transition to a more modern facility is an inevitable change derived by the procedure of life itself? Porridge Chow Allesandro. Oh I love and I'd like to make film about the subculture of Italian fans who adore West Ham because of Gianfranco Zola. When he was a manager in two thousand and nine Francesco Molinari off the great goal lead amongst and look you west him almost most definitely the poster child for reckless change. Bit Light the Chicago White SOx charging into soulless new comiskey eight from outmoded but vintage in dulling old Comiskey West Latte from old classic Upton Park which smelt like proper football have spilled a bad breath and fried food and please holstered and they jumped into the London stadium when they moved. It's hard to remember this west. I'm they were filled with dreams of becoming big time fuel by the surreally. Brilliant Creative Butterfly Dmitri now. The antiseptic hateful bowl is the London stadium. And that's letting serene and not really fit for footballing purpose and the squad led bewilder delay into battle by David Moyes just a grim caucus of a footballing visionary from the highlight. The game is the opening bubbles barrage after which everything goes to crop the question of Everton and tradition and change though to be candidate. Honestly right now one. That's so low on the list of concerns. It's on there but just so far me football so weapon the EH and I think it's really important to realize not surreal parallel track to the will the primarily comeback debate which has been chaos to witness the transfer news track. The ongoing fiction of news really Neymar to Barcelona over to Real Madrid poker to buzzfeed. All VAT is bullock's just to- bullock's. I mean football is like the airlines the cinemas J. Crew Football Sports in general but yes football in particular is a massive industry is in challenge right now total challenge. It's so dependent on the intertwined economies of Europe and it's going to be impacted by the pandemic in every single way. I hate this but it's true and we're going to begin to talk about it. How full is viewed? How fobel's Brew Coast played scouted manage sponsored branded and ultimately save it. You know all the money in a tickets the sponsorships the corporate bloody boxes. All of that is getting battered. Torn the PAW slashed so to become I am not worried right now about the theoretical atmosphere of a new building is not yet fully. Signed off on on which. Everton might theoretically one day play. I am worried about to help the players about fans congregating around the stadium during Games about the entire business model that we've taken as a give. The Premier League good always felt too big to fail. How England and the thirty thousand deaths which has been the most in Europe vow worries? Make the question of when am I going to see my parents again in Liverpool? Will I see my parents again in Liverpool? How will the people in my birthplace battle corona virus in the systemic way? Germany has Britain's no that that hasn't made it eats me up. Keeps me awake at night? Everton their new stadium to luxury problem. The past two months for years to me and Everton's new stadium theoretically years away fills like a Yeoman's sorry about that loss myself for a second. I need a sting like you need. A shower is off Bradley. Mcdavitt of Chapel Hill North Carolina Tar heels a reminder that you should call me at six four six four five zero nine four seven take six four six four five zero nine four seventy and OSC may anything next question please. Hey this is John. I'm a big liberal order from Chicago Having reached the promised land of Anfield In March and probably hopefully not the last game of the season at Burma's in March seventh. I wanted to know what's the main difference between and never pull. And what are your favorite parts of each? Thank you live John. La Chicago finally hub city. That owns a huge chunk of Mahar. Look Chicago in Liverpool and she share more similarities than they do differences. They are both industrial cities with a heavy Irish Base. That fell into disrepair. And how to reconfigure? The very core purpose in modern times is a couple of things. I love about both their base. Glue Cola. Swaggering sense of self hard-working can for sports obsessed but above all the thing. I love about both of these. Cities is the sense of history that seeps through the streets of both almost every block has a story makes it a stories about dreams and hustlers everyone as a scheme in Liverpool is actually a word for these people. Black is fantastic word. Braggers tell us of tool stories the Chicago and who I loved more than all other says. She drew me to the city. Even more than Walter Payton and Ferris Beulah wasn't incredible black man stood sterkel an American author. Historian Act BREWERS KOSTA. Amani dedicated his entire life to collecting stories as a neural historian. Imp Books and on this radio show actually had the chance to work with the when I moved to Chicago and it's his spirit. I think cove and tried to tap into in everything I do to be all but when I think of Chicago like I think he could so easily have become a scout. Definitely a a man who knew the true dog at the heart of humankind retained a sense of who on the less that is Chicago and his Liverpool tape both big-hearted cities filled with dreamers people. Who will do whatever it takes? Whatever it takes to make those dreams real next question. Hey Rod this is Jordan from Cleveland. Ohio a big Chelsea Fan And I was calling because I'm actually a nurse I work with toby directly and apparently going through himself isolation just to try to pretend that I love the fact that I'm working. These stations and I grew up in Cincinnati Ohio Cincinnati Reds Fan. Then currently live in Cleveland Ohio. So I am a big Cleveland Brown and Cleveland Indians Fan. You know anything about those teams. We haven't had a whole lot of success particularly with the Cincinnati reds which are my oldest and dearest was right how there's because so hard working with these patients and being isolated just like everybody else. I'm thinking of a song that I know it by Alison. Close Egypt station. Which one part she said the next best thing plane winning and You know right now. I would take my team losing every single game. If it's just have a chance to watch sports right now and I wonder if you ever Tonia also have been known to UH TO WATCH TEAMS. That don't do very well I wonder if you feel that same last. And you have anything to encourage some frontliners. You know right now. It's just everything seems hard and it just keeps dragging her on. We're still working hard. We're GONNA make it. I know that any little bit of words of wisdom and they think maybe we'll be back to playing sports soon. I would love to hear it. Stay well stay safe. Thank you for all your to your such encouragement and I love listed you podcast courage from Cleveland. I remember your Indians all too well in the nineteen. I still have a recurring math. That involves how but bell on a bat to be honest. Here's the honest. Truth would not going to go back to sports as we know it sued not. We're not just going to be steps forward steps back process because all of this all of it is a leap into the unknown even in Germany where they seem so methodical where the curve is been not just flatten but battered by Angela Merkel. You'll have a Dresden team test positive and a whacked out for two weeks. I mean the athletes are nervous. There is no doubt. Look at Cam. Well tween about play as being human to this is gonNA take time. It's GonNa take patience us. It's GonNa take immagination a law of imagination from us as fans going to be some successes. There's GonNa be some failures but what you're really asking is not we'll sports be back soon but we'll life be back to normalcy and you know better than they have seen it up close. Rivera noise. This is GonNa take telling. It's going to all take time but the good news on the front line people at ye inspiring heroes. You've only been overlooked for far too long while professional athletes to be only been put on a pedestal time and time again so while. I can't tell me. Yes we back to sports as WE KNOW IT SOON. I can tell you is the entire men in Blazers team and the whole bloody world is with you on this. We support you. We love you. We never take it for granted to be I. I'm more into it right now. Being inspired by what you're doing by your commitment your grind your service your struggle and sports to on the shouldn't put back into the shadows it shouldn't and that that's the essence of humanity. All of us need to focus on to channel to emulate right. Now you not the Mitri Pyatt but you Jordan from Cleveland and the millions light you across America and the world I'm going to finish with a line in tribute to you Jordan from studs terkel. Why human being read his books read is thinking his spirits while America needs right now and in one thousand nine hundred nineteen eighty four. Two years ago in his book American Dreams Lost Than Found. Study the following hero a not giant statues framed against Red Sky. They are people who say this is my community and it's my responsibility to make it better until we've all these communities and you really have an America that's back on its feet again. A really think. We're going to have to reassess. Walk constitutes a hair studs. Amen Jordan from Cleveland. We back tomorrow.

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First Modern Planetarium Opened - Oct. 21, 1923

This Day in History Class

06:18 min | 2 years ago

First Modern Planetarium Opened - Oct. 21, 1923

"Hi, I'm Daniel and I'm more and we're here to tell you all about our brand new podcast. Daniel and Jorges explained the universe in this podcast. Gonna talk about a lot of things, mostly my physics and the universe in all those big mysteries scientists. A lot of things left to figure out even pretty basic stuff like what is space? What is time? What is stuff made out of which movie gets time travel. Right. That's an important question scientist. Are we alone in the universe? What is a black hole anyway, with inside a black hole, that's bad. It's mostly me and hor horrific on stuff. We find fun and fascinating and hilarious. Look for Daniela more, hey, explained the universe. We'll try to cover just about everything in the universe, everything every dollar shebang. The whole shebang from cats do planets to black holes and tiny parties. Welcome to this day in history class from how stuff works dot com. And from the desk of stuff you missed in history class. It's the show where we explore the past one day at a time with a quick look at what happened today in history. Hello and welcome to the podcast. I'm Tracy Wilson and it's Tober twenty. First, the first modern planetarium opened on this day in nineteen. Twenty-three, which probably makes the sound like an episode that's going to be a lot happier than it really is in the end. So before this point, there were several ways to visually represent the solar system and planets and things like classrooms. Museums, one was an Ori which was like a large scale model of the solar system like you might make an elementary school with balls and sticks that represented the planet. Some of these were incredibly beautiful and complex. They sometimes we're operating by a series of gears that made the planets actually, orbit. You might use the dome or a sphere with the stars painted on or when that was lit from the outside with pin holes to mimic the stars. People also placed maps of stars onto a globe to be looked at from outside in one thousand nine. Twelve professor e Henderson also invented something he called an orbit of scoop and this is a model of two planets orbited sun and a light that showed where their various shadows fell from a particular vantage point. This was a good way to visualize what planetary motion looked like. Then astronomer and privy councillor max wolf suggested to Oskar von Miller of the newly opened Deutsches museum in Munich that he should have some installations related to astronomy. The museum was already set to have observatories and telescopes and wolf recommended that it also have some kind of installation that could demonstrate the stars and planetary motion. The museum contracted with Zeiss optics to work on this Zeiss had previously donated telescopes to the museum while working on this project Zeiss optics. Walter Bowers feld had an idea in nineteen fourteen. He thought he might be able to use a central light source to project the sun moon and planets onto the inside of a dome. Another. Engineer and director at the firm named Rudolph, struggle expanded on that idea to include the stars as well. All protected from the same central apparatus. The projection apparatus that was needed to do. This was completely new, and it was a very inventive use of optics and light. The company had to put work on this on hold during World War One, but then a sixteen meter dome was installed on the roof of the factory in Yana in August of nineteen. Twenty-three, a series of demonstrations and tests followed, and then the whole thing was disassembled take into Munich and reassembled at the Deutsches museum. This first public showing happened on October twenty first, and the response was extremely excited. People nicknamed this brand new I ever planetarium the wonder of Yana soon. The idea of the planetarium spread more and more of them opened in more cities. Millions of people had visited one within five years. A very incomplete list of these. I plan. Terry one opened in Berlin in nineteen twenty five one in Moscow in nineteen twenty eight one in Chicago in nineteen thirty one Asaka in nineteen thirty seven. All of these used Zeiss technology and the first non Zeiss planetarium opened in Springfield. Massachusetts was built by the corps caused brothers in the nineteen thirties. So I noted earlier the planetarium was the work of wealthier Bauer spilled and Rudolf struggle. But Bowers feld has gotten almost all the credit for it because struggle was forced to resign from Zeiss in nineteen thirty three. This is a time of increasing Nazi policies in Germany. And the other directors at Zeiss demanded that Rudolf divorce, his wife, Marie. He was Jewish or else resign his job. So he resigned. He and his family went on to be persecuted by the Nazis. He was removed from his teaching position at the university of Yana Marie was arrested during Kristallnacht, but late. Released then Rudolph died of kidney cancer in nineteen forty three, although they'd been targeted by the Nazis this whole time, Murray's marriage. Rudolf had been offering her some protection. And with that gone, she was given orders for deportation to a concentration camp. She took her own life instead in June of nineteen forty four. Their sons were later deported to labor camps. Rudolph struggle was mostly written out of the history of the planetarium with bars feld getting most of the credit bars fields, first, public acknowledgement of struggles. Involvements after the end of the war came in a brief mention in a paper, not long before his death. Thanks to Eve's Jeffcoat for her research work on today's podcast, anti-tory Harrison for her audio work on the show. You can subscribe to this day in history class on apple podcasts, Google podcasts, and wherever else get your podcast and you can tune in tomorrow for a disappointment. Joey back again with inside the studio iheartradio's original podcast featuring intimate conversations with some of music's biggest stars. This time around we decamped to Winnipeg to catch up with an upstart named Paul McCartney, Sir. Paul touches on everything from the Beatles onstage volume wars to the making of his new album. Egypt station on capitol records is what was children. George of about who would have is I'm glad they degree. Okay. Look, let's put it seven into just see jewel kinda back to his own and go nine. Then John storied, at least Nick tools, ISM. Then that would go well. Although we played music, it came good for more great conversations like this search and follow inside the studio on iheartradio. Versus -cribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Nov. 2, 2018: JAL D.U.I., Warm Biz, get out, up in smoke and Beatlemania.

Japan This Week

20:09 min | 2 years ago

Nov. 2, 2018: JAL D.U.I., Warm Biz, get out, up in smoke and Beatlemania.

"Japan Airlines pilot was arrested for not passing a Breathalyzer test before a scheduled flight from London to Tokyo, we'll touch down safely on that story. I. It's November now. So you know, what that means in Japan government, mandated warm, biz attire at work. Oh, oh, you don't know. What that is. You don't know what warm biz is. Well, we'll bring you the heat on that in a few minutes. The Okinawa governor's taking it to the streets of America. That is and he has a message for the US military and its citizens and his messages get out that story coming up. The Japanese government is telling its citizens not to smoke weed in Canada, where it's legal or they could face criminal charges here at home. How could they ever know about that? We'll try to explain that one later Paul McCartney and his legendary former band, the Beatles were all over the media in Japan this week not to mention onstage, Paul McCartney. Anyways, all that news from me to you at the end of the show. Hi, and welcome to Japan. This week are quick recap of stories that we've been following on the Japan today website for the week ending November second two thousand eighteen Hello November. I'm Jeff Richards. Thanks for joining us. And let's get right to it. Okay. Our first story is about that pilot who showed up a knee braided for work. We told you about at the top a rather sobering story for all you frequent flyers out there. But hang on here. The details. Japan Airlines says one of its pilots was arrested by British police for exceeding the alcohol. Limit before a flight from London to Tokyo on October twenty eighth this left the airline to operate that flight with only two pilots rather than the usual. Three Jalle said an alcohol level more than ten times. The legal limit set under British aviation law was detected in a forty two year old co-pilot system, according to police he drank two bottles of wine and five cans of beer over six hours from six PM the night before the flight gel said the pilot improperly cleared the alcohol check as the airlines breath testing equipment did not detect a problem. The two pilots who took the test with him said they. I didn't notice anything wrong with his behavior. Get this. It was the driver of a he throw airport crew bus who noticed the smell of alcohol on the pilots breath and reported him to the police tests found he had almost ten times the legal limit for a pilot. The pilot was ordered detained until he is sentenced on November twenty ninth. How did jowl respond to this? Well, the company says it will introduce new breath testing equipment at overseas airports. It will also prohibit pilots from drinking alcohol twenty four hours prior to flights. Currently, it's only twelve hours. Well, let's hear from Japan today. Readers wipeout says gel said the pilot improperly cleared the alcohol check as the airlines breath testing equipment did not detect the problem. The two pilots who took the test with him. Didn't notice anything wrong with his behavior. That's not good. If a crew bus driver was able to notice that the pilots smelled of alcohol. Haul. It sounds like the real story is that to gel pilots were willing to cover for him. And would not do what that bus driver didn't hesitate to do pretty spot on my thoughts on that one. And I'm just saying this is just me perhaps they were all drinking buddies, and they were all out together. They just didn't get caught man after all this all the Halloween tropes and Tom foolery. We've been following this week. This is probably the scariest thing I've heard I'll be wondering about who's flying my plane and have they been properly cleared the next time I travel what about you. What do you think? Why don't you the story Japan today dot com, and let us know your thoughts on safe travel? Well, it goes without saying that most people usually dress, according to the weather outside, but not in Japan, the government has energy-saving campaigns for both summer and winter that advises citizens on how to keep warm or cool based on the date warm biz for the winter, and what to wear inside was first introduced in two thousand and five as a follow up to the famous cool biz campaign that they employed during the summer, but it didn't really get much attention until two thousand eleven when the government began promoting it heavily due to fears over a potential electrically shortfall following the March eleventh earthquake and subsequent disaster. Well, this year's warm biz campaign runs from November first until March thirty first it calls on offices and homes to set heaters and air conditioners. No higher. Than twenty degrees celsius and to keep warm the old fashioned way by wearing extra layers of clothes and eating hot meals in the colder months of January and February the ministry suggests using scarves gloves, stomach and leg warmers or two pairs of socks during the day inside people. I'm talking about wearing this inside not outside. You'll put a jacket on over top of that. When you go outside and for dinner. It goes on to say that it recommends a traditional Japanese hot pot. I quote, you can lower the heat if you enjoy Nabi making both your body and the room warm, the temperature will feel higher than it actually is thanks to steam from the pot so says the ministry, and by the way, Nabi knob is like a Japanese soup and stew that you cook at the table, usually you have a few people over to enjoy it together. And yes, it does help keep the room warm and everybody does look forward to a good. Hot Nabi in the winter. But it's not just the government. Even the fashion-conscious girls do seem to dress according to the editorial calendar, and what's on the cover of magazines rather than the actual temperature outside even this morning. I saw girls in heavy leather coats and big cashmere, scarves, wrapped around them in almost twenty degree weather, but I digress to pan today. Readers are certainly not fans of warm, biz Alfie note says nothing to do with the environment all to do with stingy saving money and treating adults as children. Yup. Rules rules. Rules. Can't have those people thinking for themselves. Who knows what crazy stuff they might dream up? Yeah. Like dressing sensibly. I would add Jimmy's oh suffers at his workplace our office is freezing during warm biz. And we can't change the temperature. It goes without saying that you can turn the meeting rooms into furnaces to your hearts. Intent though can't make those visitors uncomfortable. Yes, I don't know about your offices where you live. But here a lot of offices. You cannot adjust the temperature they're locked. And when the government says, it's got to be this temperature. It's gotta be that temperature. And then you're left with electric blankets and working with no shirt on or something happens in our office to Jimmy's, oh, I feel for you. Well, what do you think about warm biz? Why don't you? Visit us at Japan today dot com, and let us know let us know how you deal with it where you live. In our next story, the by cultural, and I gotta say newly elected very newly elected governor of Okinawa plans to visit the United States with a message to the American people, stop building, a disputed military base. Denny Tamaki took office on October fourth after campaigning for a disputed US marine airbase to be moved off of the island and for the American military presence on Okinawa to be reduced. The small island hosts about half of the fifty four thousand American troops stationed in Japan and accounts for sixty four percent of the land used for military bases. Tamaki will visit New York and other US cities later this month, although details on who he's going to speak to and who is going to meet haven't been decided yet. I want the American people to understand what has been what? It is and what will be to solve this problem said fifty nine year old Tamaki who is the first person with an American parent to lead. Okinawa. His father is a US marine. He has never met his mother who raised him on Okinawa burned. All his father's letters and photos Tamaki said but stressed that his by cultural roots, make him perfect to relay a message to the American public Japan today readers don't think his trip is going to be very productive. You bought who predicts like his predecessor he will more than likely. Be shuffled off to the office of some undersecretary of an undersecretary of some department that is not even close to anywhere near having anything to do with Okinawa. Okay. Point point taken bones asks, why doesn't he just admit that he is just going on a tax payer funded vacation the deal has already been made between the two nations and like it or not. It's going to happen start focusing on ways to improve the local economy and even find a way to work alongside the military and government deal commonsensical comment. I'm not sure about the first part. I don't think he really thinks he's going on a tax payer funded vacation. But the points at the end of that. Yeah. Very much. So and one reader voice of Okinawa supports to monkeys efforts. With a very simple message power to governor Tamaki power to the people of Okinawa. Well, all right Nuff said. Okay. Let's go up in smoke with this one marijuana may be legal now in Canada, but Japan as well as South Korea and China this week all warned their citizens to avoid using it. The Japanese consulate in Vancouver warned on its website that Japanese laws making the possession and sale of marijuana illegal may be applied to actions taken abroad Japanese residents and travelers should take ample care to stay away from marijuana including food and beverages that include marijuana the statement said impart what the statement did not explain is. How exactly the Japanese government might attempt to punish Japanese people who smoke marijuana while a broad? How can they even do that? How can Japanese law even supersede Canadian law or any other countries law for that matter predictably the story got a huge response from Japan today re? More than one hundred thirty comments. In fact, here's what runner three had to say. This is hard to comment on because it's so stupid, you go to a different country followed the laws in that democratic country, but you could be punished by a country thousands of miles away for breaking their laws. Ridiculous. I wholeheartedly agree. It also begs the question on the flipside what if you go to another country and break the law one that is not illegal back home with the government then step up and help with your release or help get the arrest overturned. I don't think so and from eight t the government is worried because they understand clearly the Japanese tribe mentality. If young or old Japanese start, experimenting and enjoying. We'd it will snowball and become uncontrollable Japan is the beehive of the world. I let me see parsing this correctly. The government's worried that people. Will go abroad experiment. Get turned on they'll come back home, and they'll turn other people on. Yeah. As my producer says too late. It's way too late for that Curtis piss points out to prove the use of illegal drugs for those who are returning from abroad would require invasive medical tests. Surely that would not be enforceable under existing law and would result in invasion of privacy at best. And at worst and assault on the person. This whole story is ridiculous. I still don't understand how a lawn one country can be enforced in another country. I mean, how are they going to catch people on this unless they happen to smoke a joint before they got on the plane and then landed at Narita airport and were questioned. Yeah. Then they might have it in their system. But if customs asks you did you smoke weed when you were in Canada, just lie. No, I didn't. But I drank two bottles of wine and five cans of beer and a six hour period. Before I got on the flight. And I was the Bislett. What do you think? Okay. In our last story, you hear that music behind me. Yes. Paul McCartney is in town, sir. Paul or has his very close friends like me. Call him Maka and music fans in Japan have had a veritable anthology of Beatles. News this week. Paul McCartney arrived for four concerts here. Three. He's doing it Tokyo dome and one at Nagoya dome, and we'll be ending his tour on November ninth at his opening concert, which was Halloween October thirty first the seventy six year old McCartney's showed he still has plenty of energy performing thirty six songs over the course of two and a half hours the tour is part of McCartney's freshen up world tour and to promote his new album Egypt station, which was released just in September about one hundred thirty thousand fans are expected to attend the four. Concerts in Tokyo loan. I'm told they're expecting or have expected up to eighty thousand fans per show. Meanwhile, in another beetle related story, it's been a hard day's fight. But a group of Japanese super fans lost their bid to get police to hand over historic footage of the group's nineteen sixty six Japan. Visit the fans took their battle for the film footage, which was recorded by police as a security measure during that famous tour all the way to Japan supreme court. Arguing the images were a historical document, please had offered to release the footage reportedly about thirty five minutes long. But only after blurring the faces of everyone in the film, except the Beatles citing privacy reasons, the citizens wanted the entire film released uncensored saying it would be almost impossible to identify people in the footage more than fifty years. Later. And personally, I would think some of those people would want to see that footage, the Beatles toured Japan only the one time they played five concerts, and they were trailed across the country by legions of screaming fans. I would love to see that footage and finally on the beast of this Beatles record that we're doing here and new music. Video of the Beatles has been released on apple music for their nineteen sixty eight song glass onion the video features. Rare photos and performance footage though. Probably none of that police voted from Japan glass onion appeared on their self titled ninth album often referred to as the white album which celebrates its fiftieth anniversary this year. Holy cow. Fifty years since the white album was released and will be re released on November nine Paul. Mccartney certainly has many Beatles fans, except maybe one on Japan today, toasted heretic rights McCartney is a hard working. And genuinely seems to enjoy what he's doing well, duh. Okay. He's he's not the one. I'm talking about another fan clip Klopp ads almost all of his peers have long since stopped appearing or died. The music world is lucky to have him still on the scene a true piece of living history. Okay. Obviously, that's not the guy and also little correction. The stones the who Led Zeppelin Mr. Cliff, Richard. They're all still alive. So yeah. Not all of them are dead their clipping club on the other hand. And here it comes. What Kathi must send says, and perhaps this is a little tongue in cheek. I'd like to think so his solo was just sentimental or faux pas rubbish. And he is a geriatric. Give me AK be forty-eight any day. They are more relevant today than Muko, man. You do not get to call him Muko, my friend and McCartney fan, the east is red retorts. It's comparing him to AK be forty eight. That's like comparing a human being to a hubcap. Touche and that is not a bad comment. And that was a quick recap of the news from Japan this week for November second two thousand eighteen thanks to the Japan today editors for curing the stories. Thanks to come some econ, my partner in crime here. And as always thanks to you, all of our listeners readers and commenters out there, you can find links to all of the news mentioned in this podcast in the show notes below since the news from Japan never stops. You can follow us on Twitter at at Japan today for all of the breaking news. You can join our Facebook page at forward slash Japan today for more news and comments. Of course, you can. And you should visit the Japan today website anytime at Japan today dot com, if you have a question or comment about the show or the website, or my crazy comments here. We're always happy to hear from you. Get in touch with us by Email at podcast at Japan today dot com. You can get Japan this week on Google or apple podcasts and now on Spotify. Or at whatever podcast store you shop at if you're listening on an iphone, you could even say, hey, Siri subscribe to Japan this week podcast. She's not listening that time. If you find our show, informative, or at least, entertaining, please leave us a rating or view on apple or Google or Spotify podcasts from the Japan today. Newsroom. G plus media. In tokyo. I'm Jeff Richards and join us again next week for a quick recap of Japan's biggest and smallest stories science, folks.

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GSMC Music Podcast Episode 99: Lawsuits, Doppelganger, Love-in

GSMC Music Podcast

35:46 min | 1 year ago

GSMC Music Podcast Episode 99: Lawsuits, Doppelganger, Love-in

"Will your child be ready for kindergarten at Chester broke academy preschool. The answer is yes. Our curriculum offers the perfect balance of learning and play our teachers personalized that experience for each child through engaging activities the develop the skills. They need to be ready for what comes next attended Chester Brooke Academy Open House on Saturday August third from ten A._M.. To One P._M.. To find a preschool near you click the banner or visit Chester Brooke Academy Dot Com. That's Chester Brooke Academy Dot Com. I want to know the latest and hottest music hidden in the airwaves. Dorothy left out. Listen to the Golden State media concepts music podcast Kaseke keeps you on the loop with everything you need to know from pop rock hiphop top floor and we'll throw in news of your favorite artists concert and the tour dates and so much more listen no further because this is the gold standard in music podcasts UH <music> welcome to the music podcast podcast brought to you by the podcast network. Sarah and I hope that you had a great weekend and you have a good Monday. I hope you found some sort of Monday motivation. Whatever that might be for you? <hes> alliteration wise music might be a good Monday motivation as usual Joie for this episode. We'll be talking about some stories coming to us. From the world of music story is one that I see trending on twitter and I imagine Agean many other places and it is that Katy Perry's Song Darkhorse was copied. <hes> was was copied from aim. A rap song jury has found so <hes> that was a very awkward intro. I do apologize so a jury has found that pop singer singer Katy Perry <hes> copied a two thousand nine Christian Rap Song for her twenty thirteen hit dark horse the Associated Press reports. The decision was unanimous spy a nine member federal jury in Los Angeles courtroom on Monday. The jury concluded that the beat of the Christian Song was original enough to be copyrighted copyrighted. The verdict came five years after the Christian Rapper Marcus Grey also known as flame and two CO writers followed filed a lawsuit against the pop op Star Gray alleged Perry stole the beat an instrumental line from his song joyful noise to create dark horse the main focus of the copyright infringement the case was about the beat not the lyrics grays attorneys claimed it was possible for the defendants to have heard the song and presented evidence that it had millions of plays on on Youtube and spotify great album which included the song no of joyful noise was nominated for a grammy. They're trying to shove Mr Gray into some Gospel Music Isaac away that no one ever visits said the plaintiffs attorney Michael Kahn during closing arguments Perry's legal team argued that the song contains simple musical elements the should be available for anyone to use. They're trying to own basic building blocks of music the alphabet of music that should be available to everyone attorney Christine Christine Lip laperrouze said during closing arguments on Thursday in their final verdict there jurors found all six songwriters in all four corporations that released released and distributed the songs reliable the songwriters include Perry Sarah Hudson who only worked on the lyrics along with juicy j who only penned his guest verse the other defendants found liable were capitol records as well as Perry's producers Dr Luke Max Martin and circuit who came up with songs beat the case will now go on to a penalty phase where the jury will determine how much is owed for copyright infringement from Perry and the other defendants so that is <hes>. I'm always fascinated by those those cases because how do you determine if someone copied and other song when you know you do it consciously. Do you do it subconsciously. Have you heard something in it. Sticks in your head or is I mean is it blatant copyright be right violation nuts. It's fascinating to me how all that works but <hes> they must have presented the evidence in such a way that the jury just determined that yes it was <hes> it was copied from the two thousand nine songs so interesting again to see then where this goes in the next phase of this process. Let's move onto a happier story still music ish and social media related and and it is <hes> about Riana well sort of about Riana it is about Rana's supposed- d'appel Ganger said they have adopted applegate R that we all have twin somewhere in the world and with the number of people in the world and the <hes> number of facial features available. Oh I'm sure that that is true through Riana seems to have found her d'appel ganger on a social media and she actually posted a picture which you know could probably be considered. I heard like a throwback picture of Riana so she posted the photo and <hes> wrote almost dropped my phone. How and considering AH people are saying that the PR- The two are identical? You would have to look and see if you think that they are identical but <hes> she apparently wasn't the only one doing a double. Take <hes> celebrities and fans alike took to the comments to express their utter shock. Many automatically assumed that this was the work of Dunton don face up the same APP responsible for making everybody everyone appear to be old so yeah the little girl that is in the picture could could definitely be a younger Riana. She's a beautiful young girl posted by Riana on Instagram and then of course people people reacted <hes> as it said celebrities and fans alike people <hes> like ouzo Deuba la La Anthony Chanina shake during Ed Lee and Miranda Kerr among others shared their thoughts on this you know saying wow and you know she's the little girls adorable which she is but but the resemblance is pretty questionable but then how the question the resemblance is not questionable the resemblance. Is there the question. Is you know how did Ramona discover her. Little d'appel gang are in the millions of pictures on instagram that are in the world that part apparently remains mystery but she did tag the little girl's mom in the photo which means that <hes> well. She knows where the picture picture came from <hes>. We don't know where it is that any rate <hes> the little girl is very cute. I wonder who she is but at the same sometime I don't want to know who she is because she doesn't need that kind of attention in her life. Although I guess we OUGHTA did tag her mom so my question would be a hey. Have you seen the picture and do you think it looks like a young Riana. She could play a young on in a movie. Definitely I think and B. I wonder how it feels a- as either the mother or the daughter in the picture to suddenly have a picture go viral because a celebrity finds it and things that you look like them as a small you know as a younger version of them which she does. I can't even imagine obviously I am not a small child but if I let's say if one of my nieces this is suddenly it was viral on instagram because she looked like a celebrity that with the Internet is a Weird Place Ladies and gentlemen. That's all I can say. The Internet is a weird place but let's go ahead and move on from well. We're not gonNA move on from the weirdness of the Internet because this is the social media news who's podcast and we talk about the Internet throughout. So what else do we have to talk about today. I'M GONNA move onto a story about about one of my dad's favorite musicians one of mine as well but definitely got my love of this musician from my dad and that is a BB B._B. B._B.. King Excuse me the story here is that one Ars Lucille <hes> he just did. I know there's a story behind that but all of his guitars were Lucille and I don't know if they we're all jealous that they were all named Lucille or if they're okay with it I once knew a guy who had I think he's on his nineteenth or twentieth dog and he is named the all the same thing <hes>. I guess that just makes it easier to remember at any rate. There is one of his guitars which is headed to auction in the it has has been gifted for his eightieth birthday and it is estimated to bring up to one hundred thousand dollars in the September sale <hes> so it is one of his iconic Gibson Electric Guitars of course named Lucille and the late Blues Musicians Black E._S.. Three any forty five prototype a gift from the Guitar Company to mark King's eightieth birthday is valued between eighty thousand and one hundred thousand dollars for Julian's auction seven September twenty first sale the instrument which includes a crown inlaid with mother of Pearl and a head stalk emblazoned with B._B.. King Eighty was one of the guitarists the primary instruments in his later touring years. It is accompanied by a hard leather case featuring B._B.. King embroidered in gold the auction it also features other items from the king estate including a National Medal of arts presented in nineteen ninety by George H W Bush valued between twenty and thirty thousand and as stage and photo shoot gold ring with bb on the top his twenty ten g thirty five touring van used during his final tours. I am an eighteen carat yellow gold Hopkins Hopkins Pocket Watch gifted by U._2. That's pretty impressive. It's engraved B._B.. King on the back back and love you to eighty nine in the interior his Hollywood walk of flame flame flame fame plaque received in nineteen ninety ninety his honorary nineteen seventy seven doctor of music diploma from Yale University and a handmade red leather guitar case embossed Lucille and B._B.. King and inscribed inscribed happy birthday from the B._B.. King Orchestra among other items <hes> king who died in two thousand fifteen at the age of eighty nine owned a series as of Lucille guitars over the years. The Legend is traced back to nineteen forty nine when after a fire broke out during a brawl at one of his shows he entered the burning building according to rescue the guitar upon realizing the fight was over a woman named Lucille was over a woman named Lucille he named his future guitars the same a reminder binder jillions notes to never fight over a woman or run into a burning building. The eightieth birthday Lucille has an equally fascinating backstory can can use the guitar as his primary stage instrument until it was stolen during the summer of twenty two thousand nine months later guitar traitor named Eric Doll stumbled upon the the guitar at a Las Vegas Pawnshop unaware of the instruments value. The whole thing was covered in sweat. The strings were nasty. He told Gibson Dot Com then I flipped it over and looked at the head stock and it said prototype one in a white stamp. I assumed it met this was one of the original eightieth birthday models Lucille's that B._b.. King had approved intrigued by the head stock doll reached out to Gibson and eventually learned its history king met with doll and traded needed him a new Lucille for the eightieth birthday model so fascinating fascinating stories of from a man who was an amazing musician and <hes> fascinating person in his own right. Let's go ahead and take our first break of the podcast and when we come back more news from the world of music stay tuned. You're listening to the G._S.. MC MUSIC PODCAST and I'll be right back right now. The Home Depot has lower prices on everything for every flooring project including including up to thirty five percent off tile save on the latest trends from modern mosaics to warm would look tile even the look of natural stone but tile is just the beginning their their savings on all flooring and everything you need to complete your flooring project. 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We were talking about his one of his resealed at ours being auctioned off. Let's keep it old school and taught well. It's a new movie but it's about it's old school. <hes> there is a trailer at the trailer has been released for the Lifetime Movie Patsy and Loretta and according to the boot dot com it is <hes> previews a promising depiction of the whirlwind careers and rocky marriages shared by Fest Friends Patsy Cline and Loretta Lynn so we're definitely taken it old school there. The film is set to premiere this fall as depicted in the Patsy Loretta Trailer Lynn then new to the country music world got a boost in Nashville Nashville by befriending Klein by that time established star after Klein's nineteen sixty one car accident Klein selflessly offered advice to other artists regardless of genre or The quote he is quoted as saying bless up at Apple Music for making me the very first artist in residence ever for at Apple Music. He wrote to make the announcement official on his instagram. This means taking over the biggest playlists on the platform every month. Also the goal is to break new artists in the process. All record labels and artists hit me up this month we on start with Office D._J.. And then I might hit Y'all with a gym flow playlist vibe next month. <hes> you can watch him in action at the offices with a commercial that you can find <hes> on his instagram and and you can obviously learn more about what he is doing and then <hes> moving forward you can see how he takes over those playlists and what it really means to be an artist in residence at Apple Music and then who will be next. Will they continue to do this etc so it'll be interesting to just see where that goes in other news. Natalie IMBRUGLIA has announced that she is pregnant with her first child <hes> the forty four year old musicians shared the news by Instagram instagram on Wednesday last week posting a Selfie in which she showed off her baby bump and explained that she had undergone successful in vitro fertilization person with a sperm donor the mom to be announced the news she had signed a new record deal also announced the do the news that she had signed a new record deal with B._M._g.. She's quoted as saying I've been busy writing for the past year and a half and can't wait to share these new songs with you all and as you can see from the pick there is another announcement. I don't know I haven't swallowed a watermelon. I'm expecting my first child this autumn. She added for those you those of you that know me. This has been something thing. I wanted for a very long time and I'm blessed that this is possible with the help of I._V._F.. And a sperm donor I won't be saying anything more on that publicly. I'm so excited about this next adventure a new album and I'm going to be a mom. It's not clear if she will be raising the child as a single mom she did split from her husband Daniel Johns in two thousand eight and announce to his dating photographer Matfield in two thousand seventeen but not sure if he is still on the scene well Oh congratulations to her and the new album and the new baby coming in autumn. I don't know when the new album is coming so oh you know babies and albums and all sorts of exciting news happening in the world of music <hes> a less exciting news more of drama filled news story is that unfortunately aretha Franklin's family is in a full blown war over over her assets and her legacy which is unfortunate <hes> according to aretha Franklin's lawyers her youngest son doesn't doesn't have the ability skill knowledge of the quote to serve as a state administrator so late last summer <hes> aretha Franklin died died of pancreatic of pancreatic neuro endocrine endocrine tumor or peanut at seventy six initially it appeared appeared that Aretha hadn't written a will but earlier this year family members discovered the discovered three handwritten wills under the cushion cushions in the late late singer's home in Detroit. The most recent one dated March two thousand fourteen gave her assets to family members including her youngest son. <hes> Keith Cunningham who's the youngest of her four sons but in a court filing in June attorneys for Franklin's estate told an Oakland County Michigan judge no basis exists to support the assumption that Cunningham has the ability skill and knowledge to serve as the estates representative in fact Sabrina Owens against the singers niece who has managed the estate until now has done a quote marvelous job as administrator she has successfully managed business deals involving aretha music life and likeness <hes> key cal coming home apparently hasn't according to lawyers now in an increasingly singley complex and bitter family dispute. Another son says he deserves to manage his mother's estate in a court filing attorneys for theatre white second <unk> said he not Cunningham should co manage the estate he would serve alongside Owens in the two thousand fourteen will aretha Franklin had allegedly scratched outright and Owens's names yet they had both appeared in a handwritten. will she wrote in two thousand ten according to white his mother didn't cross out the names he he also doesn't believe Cunningham did so either on August sixth a judge will consider a request to have a handwriting expert examined the handwritten wills yet. ARETHA youngest son apparently doesn't want to wait that long. He has filed for a temporary restraining order demanding owens no longer exercise her job as administrator a straighter well so well good luck with figuring all of that out unfortunately these things happen and and families I mean they have it in families who don't have a famous family member and an estate to manage so hopefully everything will get worked out and the DOC dysfunction won't be too exacerbated by this process but I can only imagine that it will be. Let's go ahead and take our second break of the podcast. When when we come back we'll be wrapping up with a few more music stories so stay tuned? You're listening to the G._M._C. Music podcast and I'll be right back. You do it right by staying on top knowing when it's time to stain your deck and your fence lows is here to help you do it right with the supplies you need and the know how to get it done plus. 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There's a podcast network that covers just about everything everything that you've been searching the golden state media concepts podcast network is here nothing less than podcast bliss with endless hours hours of podcast cupboards from news sports music fashion looking entertainment fantasy football and so much more so stop flirted around and go straight straight out to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed to fill that podcast is whatever it may be visit us at W._W._W.. DOT MC PODCAST DOT com follow us on facebook and twitter and download on Itunes soundcloud and Google play Ah <music> <music> welcome back to the music podcast before the break. We were talking about some family drama regarding aretha Franklin's estate so let's move on to a more positive story this one involving love as opposed to drama and that is that according to billboard common has staged a Lovin at the Grammy Museum <hes> so the Grammy Museum hosted a love in on July twenty third which was officiated by the doctor of love also known as Album and the book or the focus of museums sold out Q._N._A.. Performance session and evening with common <hes> there is a quote this is the let love show show and this is the let Love Orchestra declared an exuberant Communist. He prepared to treat the audience to several album cuts. My name is common or some people. Call me the doctor after of love. If you ask my ex-girlfriend she'll call me some other names. You know what I'm saying but we're here to celebrate love and the let love movements for the next thirty he plus minutes common in his tight six piece band alternated between performing various tracks opening with my fancy free future love and answering audience questions questions about learning how to love yourself and others which is the premise behind his new book. The mini concert set list included his current single Hercules <hes> <hes> Good Morning Love Show me that you love memories of home which featured a surprise guest <hes> B._J.. The Chicago Kid and God is love so he scheduled in eleven to promote his new album and his book so love is I love love is lovely so hey if you have <hes> an album and a book talking about love and some some people call you the doctor of love go with it and and have a Lovin just just go with it. <hes> according to the boot Reba mcintire is going to be in a another. She's obviously a country star and she has done some acting as well oh but she has been added to the cast of vocal talents involved with the forthcoming <hes> Fox animated film spies in disguise. The movie is due out before the end of twenty nineteen. <hes> Will Smith and Tom Holland Co star in spies in disguise movie. That's according to the Hollywood reporter Park James Bond Ammash part buddy comedy Smith Voices Lance Sterling the world's world's greatest spy while hall and portrays Sterling's Socially Awkward Gadgets expert Walter. There's always got to be what what are the gadgets. Experts always got to be socially awkward because they spend too much time in the lab. I know I know I would be the awkward socially awkward except that I can't make gadgets so I'd be the socially awkward. I don't even know what I'd be in this movie but the story is based on a prior animated short entitled Pigeon Impossible in addition to Holland McIntyre entire and Smith spies disguise will also feature Rachel Brosnahan Ben Mendelsohn Karen Gillan Rashida Jones D._J.. Colette Open seat. There's times less when or other stories and Massey ohka there is no word yet on McIntyre's exact role in the movie <hes> which is directed by <hes> it's been co-directed by Bruno and troy quantity and features producer Mark Mark Ronson as executive music producer so we'll be interesting <hes> of course this is not re- McIntyre's first foray ray in to the world of animation. She was in <hes> the spin off of Disney's Hercules <hes> to record it the the T._v. spinoff. Excuse me she was <hes> in the straight to video feature of the Fox and the Hound to a live action remake of Charlotte's web job and wrote most recently the land before time <hes> let's see X. I._V.. So that's fourteen there's been fourteen land before it lands before time. Wow okay. I guess I knew that this was called journey of the brave that was in twenty sixteen and of course she's also had another a a number a number of other TV and movie roles spies in disguise is slated hit theaters on Christmas Day and it will close out a year that for McIntyre McIntyre has included a new album stronger than the truth and additional Las Vegas dates with fell a fellow hall of Famers Brooks and Dunn so oh congratulations to her on all of that speaking of Las Vegas and performers Gwen Stafani has cancelled a Las Vegas show stating reading that she is unwell <hes> she posted on her instagram. I'm so upset to share that I am unwell. It will not be able to perform my vegas residency show tomorrow night. I was so looking forward to seeing everyone in performing and I wish I wasn't feeling the way I do to everyone who was coming to Wednesday's show. I am so sorry. I'm doing everything I can to be back on stage on Friday <hes> so she is <hes> as it said so she <hes> she was canceling that per that performance it's <hes> the show is called just girl and she was canceling that due to illness of course many people commented on and wished her well etc etc which is is always nice when social media is nice or kind and not <hes> angry and bitter. There was probably some of those two. I don't know I'm just going to focus on the Nice unkind. Shall we <hes> we started with love. One final story in that is that Paul McCartney has hinted at that a new album release of outtakes may baby on the way <hes> he has hinted that he may release this album of outtakes in the future after adding quote unquote quote millions of them during studio recordings. Oh my gosh if you've ever heard some of the outtakes especially from the <hes> The why am I blanking on it the anthology cheese real from the Beatles there are some hilarious outtakes anyway <hes> does he describes the outtakes as a treasure trove in in an interview on his website and said the material comes from various ad libbed sound checks and rehearsals on being asked if he's still improvises at sound checks he said yeah we do and added. We've got millions of them and fortunately there's a guy and our team called Jamie who logs them and he tells me we've actually got thousands. Some of them are really good and occasionally. I'll pick one out and work on it for Egypt station. I picked one out though we didn't finish it. I picked one out and we're kind of making a track around this rift from the soundcheck jam because 'cause it was like that was a good little riff but because their improvised their instant and then they're gone he added. Thankfully our stuff is captured. Because these days you can record just about anything that moves. It's a little treasure trove and one day we will have to put together an album or something with a selection of these songs that we've gathered because they're from all around the world I would definitely listen to that but then as you know I am a huge Beatles fan so I a huge Beatles fan spending. Thank you so much for joining me for this episode of the G._M._C. Music podcast to Amiga next time and we'll find out what else is happening in the world of music. You've been listening to the Golden State media concepts music podcast part of the Golden state media concepts podcast network. You could find this show show and others like it at W._W._W.. Dot G S MC PODCAST DOT COM download our podcast on Itunes stitcher soundcloud. 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Episode 133 - Dido

Sodajerker On Songwriting

43:21 min | 1 year ago

Episode 133 - Dido

"Hello and welcome to another edition of so two jacket on songwriting. This is Brian. Hey with Simon and joining us today is an English avenue value and British award winning singer and songwriter who I entered the public consciousness back in the late nineties and went on to become one of the biggest selling British solo artists of the twenty th century as this episode, which is you she's just released their fifth album still on my mind, and he's set to embark on. I tore in fifteen years. We are delighted to welcome the wonderful died. Oh to the show who sat down with Daido at Publicis office in Saint John's wood London on a lovely sunny day in mid January and we had a very enjoyable chats. She was charming company and add some really interesting things to say about songwriting as you'll hear in just a couple of minutes. Guest was born, and please let me get this. Right. Daito fluorine cloud. The Boone VR O'Malley Armstrong with that's where the scrabble. She was born on Christmas day nineteen seventy-one in Kensington London and grew up in is Lincoln in a house full of books or. With no TV or stereo her. Mom clubs poets dot worked in the publishing industry. Algebra the Roland known as Rallo later became a song writer Recco. Producer unfounded member of faithless. Not to mention his younger. Sisters main collaborator die though. Set a cellphone a musical path by stealing a record from school when she was five and later enrolled in we can music classes at Gill by a teen. She could play piano recall there on violin. And later landed Qatar didn't actually start singing seriously until early twenties head appearances with faithless led it to finding management's following last week with the band in nineteen ninety five she spent a year gathering songs recording demos are making contacts in the industry die though, eventually signed with their brothers independent label cheeky records, which was ultimately sold to our Aristotle in one thousand nine hundred nine their first single here with me tend to be have breakthrough virus prominent use in the US TV show, Roswell. The song was later also used in Hlavac surely debut album, no angel was released in the US in nineteen nine hundred nine and died. The reached an even bigger audience when Eminem sample this Aung. Thank you in special two thousand single STAN our guest also appeared in the video as the title, character's, pregnant girlfriend, this led to renewed interest in no angel and it was released in two thousand one becoming the top selling album of that year, and spawning two top ten singles died though, second album life for rent released in two thousand and three included the Grammy nominated hit single white flag and went onto become the fourth bestselling UK album of the twenty first century the Grammy nominated safe trip, home locally. And if you ask goes extremely underrated. The album was released in late two thousand and eight and produced by along with the multitalented John Bryan, we need to get that through on the show. Agreed. It also featured contributions from the Austrian likes of Mick Fleetwood quest love, and none of them Brian Eno who also worked on the new record in twenty eleven has song. If I rise written with a r Rahman for the film on twenty seven hours was nominated for an Oscar gal who got away four thousand. Dropped in twenty thirteen and featured production from mongo this Greg Casten who recently produced McCartney's Egypt station, of course, as well. As their main musical projects died that was contributed vocals to all the studio albums from faithless and written a number of tracks within two she also co wrote Britney Spears two thousand and three number one hits. I'm not a girl. Not yet. A woman with Swedish pop behemoth MAC Marty and was supple by riana on twenty sixteen track. Never ending to hear tracks from the new record still on my mind and something from across die those recording career checkouts Spotify playlist for the Sepah sewed visit. So the dot com slash podcast click on those page annual find the link beneath the episode player guess, we'll be embarking on a twenty-seven date world saw in may I in fifteen years as we said, and you can find all the dates as official sites Daito music dot com. He can also keep up to speed with all hair activities as at Daito official on Twitter. Facebook dot com slash died. Oh, and at died on Instagram you can find those that so dejected dot com. At so gesture on Twitter and Instagram Facebook dot com slash so dejected. Make sure you subscribe to the shell on podcasts. If you not already done so in order to receive new episodes as soon as they're available feel free to leave us a nice review and five star racing. The if you wish you can also contribute wherever pocket change, you can spare the running costs of the show at so dejected dot com slash donate before we get to our guest. Many thanks to ask for his help in the interview. Okay, please enjoy our conversation with the lovely die though. Gotcha picture covering cracks on. But. Deadened? Would be missing you. Huge. It's gone scon-. I again badgen. So you don't have to stay. Getting. Daito? Thanks for being with us. Title, fresher ties will pleasure. Love your poker star. When we didn't make say. Tied up. So the new album still on my mind out in March. Yes, we feel very lucky don't we get these advanced. Even have one of those. We read that the album was recalled home pretty much. Yes. Sort of mixture of a home, and my brother's Heim oversee he actually has prophesied Joe acquitted a bit movie demento with mar- recording. And there's a lot of the backing vocals nab them recorded with me recording. And I'm basically, I have no patience with technology. I'm just like I loved it gives me the opportunity to do something sort of on the fly. But I also have no patience for things are everything has to be done in one type, then there's usually like drilling or dog. So there's a lot of stuff going on a more recruiting. So he does the proper ones actually there's also dogs and drilling on his this. Better. Some of the vocals on the couch or something we read all of them, really every single one of my sort of having so made a few records, one of my realizations on this bombers, obviously thrown enjoy the vocal booth and it saw lonely and everyone else's in the control drinking cups of tea and doing whatever and chatting, and laughing and you can't hear what's going on. They will have an brilliant, Tom, and you're just sort of repeatedly singing the song. And I just thought you know, I like doing in the room with people and every single vocal on this record. I was like look I'm just gonna put it down while the idea, and we'll do the vocals combat next time. And then not just never did. 'cause they just sorta stock you get attached to avoid and listen something enough menu live that will today. Was the writing process quite informal in that way to ferry info. Yeah. And always different. I mean, part of making music with my brother is this hanging out. How much concentrated time we spend in the studio of is the chan- the long walk by the the like when Lee ideas, come actually when you're just getting on with your life with someone who's inspiring in creative and the music so becomes a byproduct of of that, and we both I just love being outside and say that we'll get back. Get the song down get the ideas database pretty instinctive people as well. It's like the first idea often does have the solve trace in it. You know, like all spend a lot of time sort of working on lyrics once an initial idea has common. They come the slowest for me. But as far as vocals, and as far as melodies, and as far as an idea, I think sort of going with that first instinct is always worked for me, and I have sat in patent as well. And I'm singing where. The first one will sort of be really good and have some carrots, and then also feeble times that you can actually hear the sort of mountain being climbed. And then there's a point where it's really obvious now to me, and my brother went on coming down the mountain sort of rapidly. The. That not the good ones. Would you say that you kinda separate the rice in process from the record in processors all kinda mix still say pretty much every song recorded in my life has had a slightly different process. Like, those no fixed way that I've ever done anything in. Something's a quick something's a slow. Some have literally been about pocket for ten fifteen years. And for instance on this record. There's this song. Call them have to stay right with this brilliant cable, play writer producer now friend called them ROY louder on this album. And he's sort of got the whole thing started that she sort of pulled me out of my shell and got me writing again. And so I had to melody in my head sort of know like I sort of written something on the Qatar, and I had this melody, but while I was singing him the melody without playing guitar. He started filling in these rabies for calls, and that's actually what's on the record him working out while I'm singing the song to him. You can hear he. It's on the I called, but like to seize oversleep as listening and thinking lash like I actually sounds really peaceful because it's just one cooled. And then he starts changing it and moving it with what I'm singing. So so you can get moments like that which are literally the first idea, and you've just kept it. And I always make sure we record the fast idea of anything. We will. And it's how me. Nothing. To say. Up to early is jazz. Starring. I don't know. Well. I used to so fake have. It's good enough over member. But remember anything? So that's not really the case. And then there's other songs. I mean, looking back our members singing white flag again, and again because I was still bit broken by the subject matter of what flag when I wrote it, you know, it was one of those real in the moment songs like a writer, and I was still going through this particular break open at she was so quite an emotional experience. And now is sort of saying that repeatedly and baking go either way, depending on how that they is. I'm gonna come right? And with you wear a long time. Now, you have quite clearly defined roles at this points in the right, right? And I saw changed on this record bet. I've always sort of said, and I really do believe it's a bit with with me. And my brother is like there's one brain between the two of us. The things that I'm good at that not his strong point. And the things he's really good at all necessarily Marston point eight, but actually more and more with doing more of the other ones. Those on this record. I did a lot more production than omen partly because of sack stance partly because we were apart like he lives out of London now. And you know, I'm in London say it was down with me, sending him ideas. What saying this mar absolately Bob issue not? But then him actually saying now, this is you know, really is base. And actually getting to the point where he was sending me stuff back to base on which wasn't usually the way we did it. So it's always changing, but between us we're complete person. Pau like there's big gaps. He might not think the same thing. He might think he's a complete person. But is so much easier with him in the locker can really get things done with him in the room. And he's very. He has his full ideas that I would never come up with because the bit random that necessarily follow any rules that really peaceful instinctive. He's very poetic person and want flag is a classic example of the two of us say I was walking around with this paper his had will down with the ship. Those three lines and not just love them. So Masako couldn't sort of day Justice with the verse is, but then the verse is of Pule MIR's less poetic and more factual and sort of little images and stuff, whereas the big grand poetry. And thank he's a will may song as cups of tea and. Windows in buses, and this that and the other and then Hayes great so of poetic Ryan, great writer, and he's an amazing person to be around. You know, he's one of the remember seeing we'll down the street one day when he wouldn't have known. I was watching and he was just smiling. He's one of those people always smiling, his just ridiculously opinionated, but I really lovely wage and really really pass into as one of those people that I think for an artist you always looking for a producer elaborate, oh, it was both ways. But they can bring out the best in you vice versa. You know? That's why I like writing with people is that you learn something every time it has never been a session that I've done with any body where you haven't learned something, you know, whether it's a great thing, not great thing. You can learn something about songwriting, and it will singing or playing or whatever. And he's a great so officilas tighter comfort. Since whatever the word is. He sort of brings out my instincts is just easy making music with him. Having said that he's also the harshest critics. He is also the person I'm most nervous to play first song. I did he like Andy card hide on his face. He has also of cool scrunchy face. You know, and I can just see no enjoying it. And I'm just sitting there are also about this. Oh, hi that figuring dishonestly restraint on a lot of your songs, actually, though the way they build they'll build very slowly with just some percussion in your voice and on the new album something like some kind of low, for example, very minimal storms. Really? Yeah. The brief that I gave to this album was like as few parts as we can get away with United. Let's imagine the I am playing this the actual thing. I said was you need to imagine. I'm playing this live in union chapel. That's how I just want. This happened. Actually, it sort of went off on a tangent. And now ended up quite dance. That's always how you start at one place in you end up. But yeah, just wanted to keep it simple at the soil song speaks themselves. But also reference the music love, which is sort of, you know, I love music also means it can hit often and dour nightside. I wanted to use the sound. So I wanna sunlight some kind of love which stents, please just Qatar vehicle sort of story. So there's still of the down sounds creepy. In tools, the end, listen, pasta four. Four. Build such and I love that. And that's like a classic example of what we wanted to do. So the Dallas ounce without necessarily the domes base by women of other getting we're gonna make domes visa at some point. Because that so where we come from. When we. Tesa say. When we lose while we loved only an lever. Good. Now, I know how much. Oh. Destroy oni. That still remain. Con. So. Some. Some. Some. Some. That kind of eletronic kind of on the currency way. I'm still in my mind is well and chances those mainly kind of on the computer do of kind of organic later, piano. I say chance says is a song. I write at she. I've repaired a time a bit of away in America. And then it's one of those homes that traveled with me for what I have a lot of songs that I've written in a lot of different places. And I think part of songwriting is knowing when you've got the right version that I write that pretty much on the guitar. I recorded it sort of pretty simply and then bliss sister bliss. He did lies the cable on the record. Then put the fantastic Rifkin whipped. My cool town. And put this stiffle slowdowns ref which I love, and and then it sort of elevated into something else. And then there's also backing vocals on it that have lots of dogs barking and trailing. But we kept them. Do you still play drums from time to time? I I let my son drowns and he's really good. So I'd like, you know, he just loves now when I play Johnson, essentially play one beat really. And I played it on quiet times. Is that bait like a play that one really well at so I've played on par speckles idea. And and I do I play a bit when everyone's left the house, and so, but he's got mile kit now, and I wouldn't say, it's my strongest point. I think used to say that it was helpful loaded really was like alight writing and playing the drums I loved playing jumps in LA like because I basically resolve living in this house. So I never quite managed to furnish. And now. And I had like a bed and drum kit. That was it lets you just get up and just play drums and an, but because I taught myself by just listening things like ISIS reading out grain and stuff like this and essentially jobs play that beat again, and again, and if he patiently my my seven year old child choice to teach me new bait usually results in laughter. I always wondered how which kind of experimentation it takes arrive melodies 'cause they always very kind of great deliberate. Well-thought-out lean I what they aren't at all. That is the one bit is utterly Northolt out. Probably should be. And I could probably learn something if I did. Pretty much. I would say the first of the comes out of my mouth is always the final melody less. I'm rewriting the song. But essentially, the first one is always the one that's the bit. I don't think about our never worry about sort of running out of melodies low now set out now now if it worried. But yet that I feel like I can always come up with a melody. So even if I forgot more melodies meant be, you know, when you're performing 'cause I forget everything you can still make up and mismanages and they're fine. Yeah. Asha publicly said that there's also the actually that's the least and the most thought probably guys into the lyrics. It's almost like the. Crutch it. Timeout tr- about me. They can he. So I mean, the way he writes songs they sound so simple in this out ever, where do you actually start pulling Paul? It's li- on gold deny even stuff like whether ball changes. You know, you've got four four six you're not hearing that when you're listening to it. You're saving makes you feel jokes. Kate fooling on my head lice amazing. So cauti- Melody's in my instinct power, really, though, I just sort of tweak things and just like when you listen back might hair level fan. But essentially, I just sing it to the words tend to come as you. It's a mixture Sark Asia managed to so of plunder realize night bucks. And. Take his words. And so some kind of love that is a lyric of his the I took from him and was just like just targeting something with this. And then I sat down with Qatar just song at the woods to music. Yes. Like that says sort of one particular thing, then you have things whether it's bits of his I might take like a few lines like y flagging them build the whole thing around. And then while I'm in the south conscious of what I'm singing there's a lot of Near Net. So I'll the. Melody, and then and actually I remember this one time I worked with way MU bet stats radio. Hopefully, I went to St. Joe song the song. And that was actually is what sicker Rosty, but they do it. And they keep on the record. But I do that. I so I also declined is and saying random words and sort of hair sniff nethon anyway. I went to Williams, and then I had to leave the country wherever next thing. I know he emails me saying really love that piece. We did. And we performing it with a, you know, fifty pace qua at the role of has gotten worse night. All learn nurse near. Essner and similar to the album and track. I did before rose. Yeah. Then Florence then performed the nurse. No. Really? They ask goes, which was like amazing. And so often my song start that way. Every song is different. Like still on. My mind is a song. I would have just written the lyrics to as I was going along and just thinking them. And then I think I write that one with with Ryan louder again that's one where I did the production. So of changed pet while I was doing that partly because I couldn't quite workouts play the technicals he'd written. So they're not just pressed this light one thing. I mean, a lot of things happen just because of my inability to set things, but you know, that's just the magic of music. Isn't it, you know? Yeah. It really is. Like, so many things happen that way. Like, I'm mad love on the album's vote on the Qatar. And then found the I couldn't really I was trying to recall the Tom because and I couldn't get it all in one take it was quite fast. I let us put it on towel. Just try something else. And that's when the whole production came with the referee guitar left purely because I couldn't quite play. And there was no one there to do it. So to me, that's the beauty of music and songwriting see just so, you know, you learn something I don't over think anything then. Yeah. Low of is just because of practicalities also can stand so away you happen to be you know, and ideas like that as well. There's an element of just sitting down with a tall or at the piano. I'm roy. Petting ideas dime. Just spring day every day that has to be a sort of thing of I'm going to go by an even if it's rubbish. You just get out. Put it down on my schedule brain working. But then they're all those things that just suddenly start you in how lyrics will come just because you're walking along, you know, for certain place. Right. Did you find if you wear can sort of the music, I will Olympic typically stem from the mood, the music is creating. Yes, that's why I actually find that the mice difficult financially when I was this into your Fraser tastes myth, which I really enjoyed. I think he's fantastic. And it was funny hearing the other side's it really made me laugh because I will write with PayPal. And then if I don't finish the lyric then as he says that song is that's not going to happen. So for instance, so yeah, what someone and then if the lyric hasn't come quite quickly the pressure. So builds up to get the good lyric for the song. I remember white flag. She was really tricky because I wrote that with Knowles just the chorus and the melody and once you the melodies almost more difficult tonight lyrics at that point. I actually find easier the other way round because you start getting attached to a melody, and then fitting the lyrics in sort of. And I took me a good six months to write. The verses to switch an everyday the piano. Dislike partly because I was almost two in the Mayan of the song. But remember map says neighbors? Nice said lights like they were lovely which I leased his pub this sort of popping in instinct, and they said they could tell me every day like trying and then I wonder if they had sort of she's got it. So I find that Sach she almost now don't love leaving a studio where I haven't come up with the lyric because I sort of know myself that the longer I leave it almost less likely it'll come so I prefer to go in now with lots of bits of paper. And I'm also quite old school of just still go with scraps of paper lying. I try and put them on my computer. But there's something a bit sort of Solis about looking computers are like a pen and paper crossing out, but it would be probably a more efficient processes put them on. And then of course, I lose them of wondering where put that bit of paper with genius Lyrica tho-. I had now died have Elvis Costello's rewritten lyrics, but then got rid of the old version, we compute. Exactly. And unless you're really sort of Pantic can you do the actual crossing? How? Now on bells say even every minute. Day. Wouldn't you saving different versions? Actually, I've just got piles with paper and always used to think like in a far. I'm just diving for my lyrics book that was so thing nine then even when you're traveling you just as the pressure this book that was like gonna get lost at some point. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting to you which were went into white flag. I mean, I remember that song just being so kind of still is just so presences here. All the time. It's math. How much it still gets? I it's. Yeah. Seminole isn't it amazing to me? It makes me very happy hose this into the demo. She not sidelong guy, which very different until I gave it to pay. Not who is this guy who started actually is in a system that swan yards in this JJ. But was brilliant artist is aren't right and right beats and he did a fantastic album, and what I loved about making angel and life frontier is part of a collective that was what my brother had sets out. You know, we will together all in different CJ as you to music coming apple different rooms, and I gave peanut the track. And then the next thing on your members will come back from the live. And and I heard this week coming out, and I was I own go spreading 'cause you know, when I was much straighter and also ask. Out say stop now now, but I just that's what I love about music is the magic, and that comes I think from working with other people like I love writing my iron, and I love that price. And I need to be on my in a bit too, ripe e-e-e-e-no collaborating with people, and I think that's been real magic happens. Servant. No. Will you ever worked from title because you don't need? God was one that's out to us just wonder that that one had started with the title. That one was pretty show. Just that two lines was an idea of my brothers often hill have an idea that for me is like a title, and then it sort of developed from that sometimes from Atari, it'll sometimes just from felines hit changes. And sometimes you're just you're eating something else. And you know, I think actually reading is a great thing for you. So forget sometimes and then to sly, you know, what she really enjoyed just reading reading poetry, or you know, whatever it just gets your brain. It's like sometimes you just need to wake up that side of your brain. Not my brain is full of melodies and music and sometimes need to wake up the so of lyric solid. The some interest in blinds thought on songs like walking by and friends that have a kind of almost like a dark on the belly to them. You know, like, please stop telling everybody that I did it for you or one hundred things you've only dreamed taking us couldn't. I mean, every song has a slightly dark and Karen or Brian current. If it's this add something my thing has always been that is so 'em inspired by lightened out together in women have conflict. It's always micro moments of conflict is what makes me go right song and the other moments lead to other people who are songs about. But that so for me, I write about very very small things, and it might be a fleeting feeling like walking by almost fleeting failing of Iino. And you just get that moment of if you take in that road instead of that road sort of failing in this lightly. I wish I hadn't actually seen the alternative, you know, sort of that that's not a failing that you're going to live with every day. But it might. Something that you just had like once ten seconds. But it's enough to sort of made me wanna buy about it. And I think you know, sunlight thank he that Coors came first, but I wasn't going to bus. That was like I'm having a lovely day. Everything's really great. And there's kitchens, and that you've having this just because no one wants to hear that. And I don't want to write it. And it's interesting to me. So that sort of sums up actually every song even have to stay actually, which is a song on this record about just unconditional love and having kids has a little air of darkness because you're sort of thing can ahead to the point where you need to walk away. So even that song, which should be really pill. I can't help myself to think Eminem kind of picked up on that sort attention. When it came to come up with STAN. Yeah. Maybe now unite lack I think say who knows? But I mean, he came up with STAN because the forty five king. Psalm pool debt of an advert from sliding Dole's vice boats, the forty five king afterwards. 'cause I was like how did it happen? Because I was so curious, and I think he was watching TV and this advert just kept coming on sliding doors. And it was just that whole magic thing against learning. Those wouldn't happen. If someone had given them I type someone else he gave them type someone else. And then he saw that. And then he made a track and send it to Eminem. And. Yeah, you know, I like writing about DACA things like the release of joyous things Papillon since bar. You're looking for those little maintenance that just more interesting failing attention. Thank you between the very uplifting course enough. I wonder why I got out that at all. Yeah. Nice to the songs half that. Last night. My head. Stop. Hell today. Again. And then you call. It's not so bad. Would you say there's a lot of personal reflection in the songs or just as likely to kind of be imagining scenarios with characters I think there is a lot of passengers staff. I think come that's always the stuff that's easiest to write because you know, it United as an element of imagining it, and and I'll muddle at with sort of my personal staff maybe other stuff, whether I've imagined foul out for somebody else. But I do definitely y pre personal songs. Unite twenty nine. Mccain struck me as kind of a personal song. I don't know whether it is. But it felt that kind of resilience in it felt quite authentic. That's actually that Larry that. I literally I had that just in a book for like come a combo. There was the whole thing whether it changed over time. Yes. Sort of for maybe like almost twenty years. Yeah. Fifteen years, but then became relevant. I got it. It was like, okay. That's to me. That's what marriage is you know, being together. And in the face of souls, uncontrollable crazy forces women. Prepping for interviews we typically play lists together. And we were reminded the I'm not a girl. Not yet. A woman. Top ten hits. I know. Gene. I say no, we just that was with McMartin. I actually never met Maxine just fold once and I was in a hotel somewhere whether in Hayes, can you help us with this grainy. And I'm sure and they they sent me what they had already. And I think maybe just like filled in some gaps and to be honest. It was a quite of random thing. But always a pleasure to is. She I think he's written some amazing pop songs, and lovely lovely. And so yes, I was just like a happy to and then I met Britney after shoes just lovely properly awfully we'll sweet grew figure mystery is next month. Views or yeah. Yeah. I mean, I let any Spiderman fine. Yeah. Wasn't really does. Anyone know? Lots of interesting career stuff seems to happen to you even hotels. It does. It does as fast heads, Dan. Remember, we didn't he? Yes. We remember what I was listening to when I was reading the let any light you. Remember, really weird stuff, ULA that was playing on the stereo and was stunned style letter now. But I wa- spent told for nine years, so I think of my life has been spent in the hotel room, but you know, house I have great for writing very pretty much the whole of cohesion away. And I tell them sort of setup little minisat so slightly behind the curtains in the corner of this hotel room, and then we'd just off. Yeah. All right. There was the Rollo lyric almost nothing. Yes. It's actually. Got away. I was gonna say Brian Bryant operates to what he was like to work with saying. Absolutely. Did he bring his oblique strategy? Right now. He's just he's extremely so I worked with him. I on the third album on save chip high me on Grafton street and just incredibly so off in sparring might fating encouraging clever like so on on go. He got away this song. He did diaper. We went to all it's very simple cable. But that keyboard sound is made up of who knows how many components now is just what so clever is feel to with Bax when you do something so complex to make something so simple. But you can't understand why it so peaceful, even though it so simple. And it's because actually a huge amount goes into bear. He's just them. Yeah. I mean, that was a hair moment. Like, there's people you meet you feel like you're gonna dream. And that was one of them like another green world is such a huge record as like been playing solve important parts life in and actually when I started songwriting when I right here with. Me which was pretty much one of the fast songs. I write that. Paypal would have had this tool the runs before. I right to for finding out our to seize his songs to just just find yourself singing. I with them in line. That's how I sort of get my days and then to be in the room with him with to something else. I think we've moment will names news world. Full name. John. It's like a roll call the Postles. Jump brian's. Interesting collaborators well here is amazing to believe in Lewis song. We really like, yes. He was incredible to aquit that was really random. So I I met him here in London. And then, and I just you know, I sort of got back in a really wasn't going anywhere. I hadn't sat still sold ten years at that point. And and he was not come to allay. And you know, we'll do some stuff. Anyway, three years later. Interstate, but he was absolutely brilliant. I mean, completely the opposite to my brother, for instance, and everything that I was used to. And in fact, this record is purely electronic, you know, there's a little bit because home, but it's very eletronic record safe trip home, the whole gist of it was that -absolutely. No eletronics we used at all. I mean, we read using tape and this that and the other, but to create eletronic sounds from, you know, real instruments, and if you know anything about Johnny ninety hands like gazillion plays everything. I mean, he's like his just like unbelievable and just plays beautifully. That was my drumming phase. And I basically work with all my favorite dramas on one. Quest love, Mick Fleetwood. Jim Kelly, James gadston. Yeah. Like unbelievable. And that was a whole interesting one because he liked working through the night. And I'm on the morning person. So yeah, I ended up going to die during the day. Just 'cause I'm Ray wanna sleep all day English. Didn't do this whole masala g thing and then like a sort of string arranging thing. And you know, like, I was just having a blast. So became a student during the day, and then with sort of had to the studio in the evening, and then us slapped, but it was sort of. Yeah. It was a Berlin experience told me law school feed into the sun rising. Somehow, definitely definitely. So it's fantastic. Thank you so much. Thank you for having means a title, title, pleasure. Twos. Again from. Leaving. Hats. Indeed. For me. That was died o talk until his in London. Tens up. She's a fan of the show Bri who knew. Yeah. Got listeners in high places. It seems but yeah, we have a little chats about afterwards. She was asking us about the show. And we also exchanged a few recommendations that we we did. And we have no shortage of those who we know great to hear the salt thing she had to say about songwriting in, you know, the importance of spontaneity, for example, she doesn't seem to spend a lot of time on the vocals, which was amazed just sits down and sings through yen this day and age, that's quite unusual. Isn't it invidious? Yeah. I'm not extends to head work with webs as well. You know, she'll just get that lyric together. Even if asked to be gibberish. Yeah. Actually what you said about. So the singing gibberish remind me. What Beth Nielsen Chapman said she counted. Same approach doesn't she she'll just to sing advocate of vowel? Sounds come into a mind, then she'll sorts of scope the weds around the sounds Bournissen say Florence transcribe the gibberish. What you think is? A fast. Yeah. It sounds like getting the woods. I is quite important to think, and then you can develop the melody around very natural sense of what the meaning of the song. Yeah. So many thanks to died out. Thanks to Ashish still in my mind is out now in the vailable which anyway pages music, so go out and grab a coffee and catch die. Or if you can we'll be back soon. And in the meantime, the excellent feature take that by.

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#676 Lennon v. McCartney Solo Careers & Opinions on Vince Staples & Makaya McCraven

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#676 Lennon v. McCartney Solo Careers & Opinions on Vince Staples & Makaya McCraven

"Sound opinions is supported by goose island brewing. Good beer for good people since nineteen Eighty-eight, not just beer people. But everyone beer that can be enjoyed at the dinner table on the patio at the music festival, goose island beer company. Chicago, illinois. WBZ chicago. And p r x this is sound opinions. I'm Greg cut. And I'm Jim dear goddess this year, Paul McCartney released a new album, and John Lennon has a new box set of magin today. We examined the post Beatles careers of John and Paul both the highs. And the lows. Plus, we review new Elms by rapper Vince, Staples and jazz, drummer, Makhaya mcraven. That's all coming up on sound of engines. You're listening to sound opinions and coming up we're going to review F M the latest album from Vince Staples better calm down. Doubt that. And universal beings the new album from drummer and hip, hop beat maker MCI mcraven, but first we're going to discuss a particularly controversial topic comparing the strengths and weaknesses of John Lennon and Paul McCartney's output after the Beatles. Imagine. Can you? And the reason Jim I think we decided to dive into this now is because both of these artists are once again in the news there never really out of the news. Now, remember back a white get them out of our consciousness mckearney just came out with a new solo record Egypt station, which we reviewed Lennon's estate has, you know, overseeing this box set of the imagine recording sessions from the early seventies. Arguably his most famous solo record with his most famous solo song on it as the title track. While the context, I'll give listeners to Greg is that neither you nor. I were there at the height of Beatle mania. Okay. So our entire careers as critics of popular music. We've been wrestling with the Beatles. We are both Utah fans of all four of them. Yeah. Sure. We don't wanna see this group, and these individuals as in carved in granite on mount rock modern, you know. So it's always fun. I think to dig deep into a catalog. Log of music that we think we know inside out and look for new nuggets of revelation. Yeah. Absolutely. Jim. I mean, it's a I think that the shorthand version of this discussion is always that McCartney wrote the lighter songs popular tunes. Lenin was the rocker. Obviously that that conflicts lot of ideas, and it's it's really wrong just on the face of it, you know, and then it's sort of an unfair match, of course, because we got basically only a decade of solo John and it took him a while in the beginning to get going. Let me tell you that'll be one of the problems with Lennon's career. I mean, he had three recordings with Yoko Ono before he even left the Beatles. Then his big emancipatory statement plastic Ono band record that that put him on the map as solo artists. Something to. Yeah. But I think it was in part. And then there are moments of greatness on that record. Don't get me wrong. But it's impart, and I think this never get said because the first three hours he gave us after the Beatles. Were so wretchedly awful. We'll. Started. They started during the Beatles. I'm talking about unfinished music one two versions unfinished music to life with the Lyons wedding album in nineteen thousand nine hundred sixty eight nine hundred sixty three hours, right? Yeah. We can pick your him in Yoko and various people come in and now rolling around on the floor finger painting. That's basically except far more annoying than that. Those are. I think in some ways they were his I want out. I want to I want to break down all the walls. Yeah. I'm gonna make music with this woman that I love and screw the Beatles in some ways because it was just tired of every and music is somewhat in quotes, their you know, their own through primal therapy. They're doing they're doing all sorts of spiritual and chemical experimentation what they are not is consistently. Good records. Yes. He was. He was very up and down during this period of time and plastic Ono band was a straight up rock and roll record, very raw very everything was on the surface. And you know, since he made what many people would call a time was piece of music with imagine you're gonna play Lennon track from Zoli years. That's inevitably the go-to it dwarfs everything else. Well, I thought one way that that we could illustrate what we both like and dislike about each of these musical giants solo careers is to play one of our favorite songs from those cannons and also one of the worst. So again, Greg we're not actually taking sides in this debate. We're both gotta talk about things that we loved by Lennon and McCartney in the solo years. I will say I think Lennon had more songs I truly love instant karma, happy Christmas war is over. Imagine that title track working class hero. I really had to struggle to figure out which song I wanted to illustrate Lennon at his very best in the solo years. I'm going with a song from imagine nineteen seventy-one. Gimme some truth. Oh my God. The fact that in twenty eighteen this song, which is a furious shout in the faces of anyone who would control him or us. It's necessary today as it wasn't seventy one seventy one in the wake of all the turbulence of nineteen sixty eight the Vietnam war this government, having an F B I file on this, man. Who's just trying to live is life. Nixon wanting to kick him out of the United States. This is the Lenin. I love the rocker with significant melody as well as the super adroit wordsmith. You know, there is a lot of Dylan there always was and via Dylan the beets, you know, all I wanted to truth just give me some truth. No short haired, yellow bellied, son of tricky Dicky's gonna mother Hubbard soft so me with a pocket full of hope money for rope. Money for dope. Man. It's just I love it. Yeah. I I would say that tracks extraordinary speaking truth to whatever power was trying to control him but having fun while doing it. Absolutely. The imagine album is more sprawling in terms of its musical ambition. Plastic Ono band is just a punch in the face. Miley resonated as a as a kid who kind of grew up being inspired by punk music. Now the record after that after those first two. It's very sketchy filled with with filler specifically the walls and bridges record in nineteen seventy four near the end of the solo period before he went on hiatus was just a mediocre batch of mostly mid tempo, bland, rock and roll. It was an attempt to make a record that was would be mainstream. But it was it just fell flat. It didn't seem to have that energy and the invective that Lennon normally would bring to the Beatles and to his early well aware and there's drug addiction and alcohol abuse. Yeah. There was a lot of indulgence during this period. But but the point I'm trying to make is that even on these Lennon lesser Lennon records. There are gems scattered throughout them and on walls and bridges the song to me that really jumps out and still can play this day and be just swept away by it. As number nine dream. I think that's just a wonderful piece of music and the lyrics are almost gibberish. Like, you know, Lennon said this song basically came to him in a dream. And he wrote down lyrics that make no sense in some ways, there's this phrase in there. That's in some made up language. I mean, you know, Google. He was not above that. You know, by what up who say say, what does that mean? Exactly. It doesn't mean anything Lenin was those just sounds that were coming into my head. But the melody of the song is so beautiful combined with the string orchestrations Glennon said he took the inspiration for the string orchestrations for what he had done for a Nielsen on a cover of Jimmy cliff song many rivers across. And he said, I love those string so much. I wanna bring back that sound on this particular track. People always say McCartney is the Melodist in the band. You know was more straightforward. This is a beautiful sumptuous melody by John Lennon, number nine unsound. Sound? So dream number nine, Greg a great choice. We didn't even talk about mother. Although you've waxed rap Saad about it. In the past cold Turkey is really good song. I can go on and on with the Lenin highlights. You wanna make case though? I think the McCartney has just as many if not more. Well, yes, I will make that case. And I believe me this is not something that I held his gospel for a long time. I was among those doubters about McCartney as just complete white washers solo artists and rediscovered some stuff that I had dismissed early on. And I think mckearney suffered the same fate because his work was always being compared to what he had done in the Beatles. I think if you remove it from that, you know, huge shadow some of this stuff really stands out, and again, like I said with Lennon, I think even McCartney's lesser albums. You can find some really good stuff. You think about those first couple of solo records? Credibly spars. People are going what's going on. Yeah. There's hardly anything on these records are so he's back out on farm. He's just doing a little bit easy in between milking the cows or whatever he was doing. And and some of that stuff sounds really good. Really? Badgen and rain. Then he formed that band wings, which people the level of musicians ship in that band was so thoroughly mediocre. It was not anywhere near McCartney's level of talent the bombast. Yeah. The bombast of wings. Everything's on eleven at all times. Why not why just have a simple pop song when you can have a super arranged multi part, suite. You know McCartney is is nasty in a way that Lennon is not Lennon try to torture us with some of that primal scream sonic experimentation with Yoko Ono those first three outcomes moments throughout the rest of the catalog, but it's it's it's in the sonic youth spirit, the John cage. Lamont young I'm gonna call. It. Von really, I'm just going to be obnoxiously noisy as possible take this. Right. You know, but by McCartney he has this insidious curse of earworm ISM where it gets in your head. And no matter how. Much. You hate the song. You can't get it out. I disagree with you. That the wings stuff was all bad wings controversial band. I think there is some merit to what they put out though. I think the real period that we can definitely agree on is eighties. Mccartney is really difficult for a lot of people here. Now. Mckearney was very much law so on the eighties. He didn't understand how do I incorporate this new technology into my music. How do I fit in in the pops fear? I think one of the big issues. Here's a mckearney wanted to be a still viable commercial artists and couldn't figure out how to insert him. So that's the thing. I don't think Lennon cared. I think David Geffen and yo- cared during double fantasy. But I think for the most part landing didn't care about selling records and McCartney not only has he always cared about selling records. He wants to be still the pop song writer of his generation of any generation. Yeah. After you've been in the Beatles. Right. What are you gonna left approve nothing? That's absolutely true. I mean, your body work speaks for itself in that band for sure. But I I would say that there are gems again like with Lennon those those two thousand records from McCartney are each of them. I could find some songs on there that I'd like I could easily make fill up what used to be known as a forty five. Minute cassette side, both sides with McCartney songs from his solo years. And I would be I would include a number of songs from his latter day period. Everybody. Everybody hit the. Everybody down. Let's each play a great McCartney Sarah from the solo years. What do you got? You know, the song always struck me as his most powerful post. Beatles is every night from the McCartney LP in nineteen seventy you know, I'm glad he had so much love in his life. We should all be so happy when he expressed it well without the smarmy and hallmark card. Jeez. It was just beautiful every night. I just wanna go out get outta my head someone who's restless every night. I just wanna go out get out of. You know? I don't wanna get get out of. But doesn't what he does stay home. And and be with you. And then the way with that that be with you the way that song takes off, you know, it's a simple little acoustic Diddy. But then when I'm with you the music highlights, the joy of being with this person loves, and it's a simple simple song that is him at his love song Besson. Every day on Orlando's wasting. Philo? Danton. Just want to stay. And be with you every night. I mean, that's his great Greg as a love song gets. And we're going to have to talk it. A couple of minutes about the menu. Man, man, Paul McCartney loves those by the positive for a minute. Well, I I think there's there many positives with with McCartney far outweighed by the negatives. I would say, but then again that that's going to happen. When you make twenty five records like McCartney has made you're not going to hit the ball out of the park with everyone. Sometimes you're not even gonna get the ball the infield to belabor it. Good. Claim with the ball. So you made the case, you know, you're you're saying that wings never did it for you. Oh, all bombast there. There's some bombast for sure. But as as a credible seventies rock act. I think they did some some songs that hold up surprisingly, well and part of it is mckearney strength as a as as a songwriter. His ability to sort of craft these multi part songs the title track from band on the run is a good example of a multi heart. Mccartney song that somehow works. He's trying to make pop music that somewhat complex. And there's no one I know who listens to wings at the speed of sound voluntarily. No. But I would argue that there is a really good song on that record. And it's called beware my love. And it's a like a six minutes on that McCartney again, one of those multiparty compositions starts out with these beautiful, but haunting and cautionary harmony, vocals acoustic guitar little harmonium in it. And then slowly bills into this rock section in the middle of the song. Then returns to the acoustic part at the end. It's first of all I love the symmetry of the composition. But I also love the energy that he brings to his vocals the way his able to switch from this dreamy haunting sound early in the record two more strides out. You know, here's a big fan of Little Richard that rock and roll kind of. Yeah. Raspy let it all. Hang out kind of vocal and parts of the song. You can hear some of that intensity. That I wish we are Mara frankly from carting, it seems like he's. Vested in song in a way that not all of his work leads you to believe it is dare I say Lennon esque in its intensity in certain parts, beware. My love from Paul McCartney and wings on sound pinions. That is beware. My love by Paul McCartney, one of Greg's choices for his solo high points after short break will expand our discussion talk about the lows of Lennon McCartney as solo artists that's in a minute on sound opinions from WBZ Chicago NPR ex. 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Use the code opinions that code again. Is opinions for free US shipping at u-turn audio dot com. Welcome back to sound opinions. I'm Greg Kat here with Jim dear goddess, and that's a bit of. Maybe I'm amazed by Paul McCartney this week, Jim, and I are debating the post Beatles releases a McCartney John Lennon, and before the break, we talked about the highs of the respective careers. And now we're going to dig into the lows. You know years ago nineteen ninety seven the latest much-hyped, then at the time Paul McCartney returned to form brilliant solo out med just come out flaming pie. Right. So south by southwest has this panel, right? Let's reassess the solo career of Paul McCartney. So you don't the last minute. They said gonna be boring if it's just a McCartney love fest. Jim would you go on and be the contrarian? Now, I have you know, I have poll his face is on my arm. The cover a revolver was extremely painful tattoo. I am a fan. Okay. But you know, these guys were waxing rhapsodic about the genius of Paul. And then you know, it was my role to to throw the spanner in the works as George Harrison would say and all I would have to do is say ebony and ivory. That girl is mine. Does that really feel? It's time knows charity. No. Because you said. Macartney's low points work. Lower than Lennon's. Will you give me that? Yeah. Yeah. I I would definitely give you that. I, you know, I think if I have choose one. And again, we're not trying to be gratuitously mean here. I don't think it serves either of these geniuses to say, they were infallible. In fact, I think it's the low points, but make the genius that much higher. But there is no defending and people on that panel tried silly love songs. The only thing that I think is worse is Albert Admiral alsi what that gypsy part at the hands across the water. Then somebody goes water. I ain't that song and this song and silly love songs. They get in my head. And they go away. There are many many worse. Give me one. Let him in how about temporary secretary. Oh, yeah. I was gonna go with that. Yeah. All right. So McCartney makes a record in nineteen eighty called McCartney to trying to invoke some of the feel the the strip down spirit of his debut record. And it is an abysmal failure. Almost every track on this record makes me want to believe the room screaming. This is perhaps the most excruciating three minutes and the canton. And that's believe me. That's heavy high road to climb, you know, but it's it is one of those things where. Yeah, this is pretty annoying almost it gets more annoying as it goes along. I think this is almost McCartney's attempted sort of making something along. Okay. I'm gonna mess around with this new technology, and and make sort of a a synth keyboard based recording to keep up with the kids and today. I mean, I it's pretty amateurish in the way, he approaches it and in terms of the musical execution. Usually McCartney gives you something in the song, hang onto a melody or something. And then the idea is just unbelievably sexist to the posible secretary idea. He thought it was funny at the time. You know, I added this secretary once, you know, although there's a Lennon song that's eight even worse. Yeah. Title. We shall not even mention. Yeah. So temporary secretary. I think you know, I have to say that. I don't think you can top or bottom. Twenty five days. Sweet thing. Date. Damn. Job. I made. You're right. You're right, Greg. That's a bismuth bad abysmally. But Lenin, you know, look if Lennon had not been assassinated on the streets of New York, December nineteen eighty just as double fantasy was coming out. I think it would never have gotten the praise that it got. I gimme gimme London at his worst. What do you think? And what we haven't really focused on here is how each of these guys was a filter for each other. They sort of brought out each other's best ideas certain tracks that appeared on their solar records never would have made it onto a Beatles record because the other guy would said sorry, that's just not working not if not Georgia Ringo would've gotten to quit in linens world. I think he was looking for some kind of buffer or filter or companion in during the walls and bridges record. Which I just played a track that I really loved that. There was a ton of this kind of draws it wasn't necessarily horrible. But it was just sort of mediocre middle ground stuff that nah. Never would have made it to Beatles beside little. Yeah. Let alone album and when when he starts collaborating without in John on this record. All no, you're not gonna go there. You realize you know, like Elton, John? But the fact that Lennon was desperate to have collaboration with the reigning pop superstar of the era speaks to his desperation at this point. Like, I I'm just looking for some inspiration. Are you are you really gonna play whatever gets whatever guy through the night single. Yeah. And I'm not going to go there. I'm going to go to another Elton. I'll have our chance fine on this record called called surprise surprise. Well, it's not a surprise. Not in any way. It is a boilerplate mid tempo. Nothing of Iraq track where he's, you know, expressing his love for his lover at the time may Pang, you know, this this sort of non Yoko it's the lost weekend. Yeah. So he's running away from home and having this fling. And he's this lascivious track about his girlfriend at the time. And you know, there's horns on it. And you know Lennon was never particularly proud of his voice. So he would always always be affects on his voice. You know, some of this approach filtered into double fantasy later on. I think that's one of the reasons we're so uninspired by so much of the latter day. Lennon solo music is because of this sense of the production's going to carry the weight of the fact that there's not really a song here. So surprise surprise definitely fits into that category. Yeah. All right. That's dreadful. Right. I'm glad you're not gonna do. Whatever gets you through the night is just on the concept. I know it's boo blue it's overdone. It's cheesy. I am not Elton John fan that that Broadway the Atra caliber he brings. But I just love that. So I was just the concept that hey, man, to whatever whatever you need to do to keep yourself up. All right. He was doing that. So I think Lennon and McCartney you are absolutely right. It's brilliant point. They were both always looking for the balance that never existed again when they weren't a team. Bye. As always we want to hear from you. What's your favorite Lennon or McCartney solo album and why call and leave a message on our hotline? 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It's a whole new dimension sound that lets you hear the music the way it was originally intended to be heard precision crafted audio performance exclusively from Acura. Has come out first day. Down for like. Thirty does around. Fati doubt. Welcome back to sound opinions. I'm Greg with Jim dear goddess, that's a track from the new FM album by Vince, Staples. It's called feels like summer third studio album from this Long Beach, California artists crime riddled area in which Vince grew up in it got out of there through hip hop as a teenager. He started working with members of odd future. And then made a collaborative mix tape stolen youth with the late MAC Miller, whom reduce that record in two thousand fifteen is debut album summertime. Oh, six was produced by no, I d a producer who picks his projects, very carefully. Got a lot of attention because of that one of the most acclaimed albums of two thousand fifteen based on the work, Vince, Staples proved that he was one of the most intriguing up and coming hip, hop artists of our time in two thousand seventeen to follow up big fish theory, incorporated, dancing, electric elements. He was asked to perform with the guerrillas on their humans record. And now we have album number three from Ben Staples FM, here's a track from it before we review it. It's called tweaking. From vince. Staples unsound pays. I suggest you doubt. Don't be don't. In back home comeback in back. When dad was off the plush. If it dad Boston dang pass the gas. To downtown Bernie. I don't get. I did too. Came up. Praises. You just don't. Lease. Twenty. I'm. That is a little bit of tweaking by Vince Staples from his third album, you haven't been saying right, Greg. It's FM. Yes. Yeah. You know, Vince, Staples has made a point of saying in interviews there were no concepts. No more Bs with this album. And yet it is indeed a concept album. It's fascinating one. It's only twenty two minutes long two of its tracks. He doesn't even wrap on what is he doing here? He is a created this concept here of essentially, an FM radio broadcast on hip. Hop radio on the west coast, east got an LA radio legend big boy coming in and doing some radio-types nip it's what radio means to. Staples is, you know, commercial music consumption, and the lyrics here are examining this nihilism of black America drugs and gang violence, and he is not celebrating that he's dealing with it as a reality against this backdrop of the best day. I'm summer music. We've heard even though it's fall. Right. This is a fun Risi wonderful party record that in the same way his last album big fish theory, drew of elements of the underground he is now returning to that stuff. He grew up listening to which is that classic west coast g funk write the kind of party jam gangster rap of the eighties. He is saying this is my pop album, right? But the melodies and the good time party groups contrast amazingly with a very dark vision. You know, the the lines are are amazing. My black is beautiful. But I'll shoot it you. You know, he's saying at one point. Get you to them to cold weather. Don't stop no gun or wrong hat or wrong day. I killed my brother. These are amazing. Snapshots of of the violence that he is, you know, contrasting with the the uplifting. Power of its celebrate, Tori music. It's a fascinating record. Yeah. You're absolutely right on about that the defunct stuff g funk in the early nineties. We had snoop Dogg. Nate dogg. Warren g these great records made by top notch. Producers celebrate Tori records as you say about a very dark subject often, which was the gang violence in in Long Beach to traditions, g funk and gang violence, side-by-side growing up together. He's not sugar coating it in the least, and I viewed him a few years ago in eighty said, you know, I think people need to understand the not everybody here is a criminal a lot of what we have to do is just basic survival. Yeah. Because there are no options there for a young, man. You know, there's no YMCA's. He says there's no real kind of recreational options other than joining a gang as a way to get through life. So it's a it's a dire existence Ilana. These songs are about ticking off the names of his friends who have died in that song tweak in that. We just played it's kind of a eulogy and that NS course, by Kahlani really breaks, my heart every time. This litany of every week. There's a new body count, which you're not dealing if you don't stop and start to look at those lyrics. You're not even gonna get that from the the absolutely it is party music. It's a summer record as you said. But at the same time as dire subject matter. This is a record of that really kind of focuses on the fact that this is this is kind of one of those traditions. Maybe we should be breaking at some point. But he sees no end to it. There's a I just wanna make one more point here about don't get chipped that reference to Sam cook a change is gonna come only applying to a very few African Americans in America right now, not the rich and the famous the change is going to come. But I'm not going if my gang is the key live. I'm not going. I am. It's like it doesn't matter that I'm getting out of this. But I've got an entire city that is not is still caught up in this. Tell me if you grea- I think that with his extrordinary twenty two minute eight eight track and really he doesn't wrap onto like six track mini album. I think this is where he vaunts rights to the top as as absolute equal peer of Kendrick Lamar. Oh, absolutely. I think I think he's incredibly. I mean, if it's possible say this about Vince, Staples. I think he's almost underrated. He's not nearly as prolific in some ways as Kendrick is right now. But at the same time, I think fin Staples is one of our most enlightened and powerful MC's without a doubt. That is a little bit of track cold turtle tricks from the new album by MCI up mcraven, universal beings. Greg. What a fascinating back story this young drummer composer producer has he prefers the term beat scientists. He's he's born in Paris, the son of a jazz drummer and a Hungarian folk singer he grows up in New England in Massachusetts relocates, the Chicago in two thousand six he is very much part of the avant jazz, experimental electronic music underground of Chicago a frequent collaborator. Jeff parker. Probably best known to the rock world as a member of tortoise. Right. That underground incredibly fertile seen here in our city where where I giving it any one name doesn't do it Justice. You know as drummer and producer mcraven has been following this path of life. Live often improvised music, which he then takes to the studio and electronic manipulates. It's fascinating the working process. Let's listen. And then we'll give our opinions on what we're actually hearing. This is a track called Atlantic black by MCI mcraven from the new album universal being. That is it -lanta flack from the new MCI craven record. Universal beings. Jim. I'm really happy to be addressing this record at this moment because we are seeing a wave of jazz that I think are more rock oriented or hip, hop oriented listeners will appreciate know nursing artists like Robert glass Bor and come Ozzy Washington crossing over into playing like rock venues and rock festivals. Now, thunder cat. Another example that flying Lotus and the hip hop side bringing a lot of jazz elements in his work MCI Craven's right in that pocket. You know, what you mentioned about the way this record was recorded the live element with the electron ick editing at the end is goes all the way back to tail mature. Oh, and those miles Davis records bitches brew and things like angry. Tradition. Bring that up. I'll give you another one to anthem of the sun by Grateful Dead. Right. You know, my favorite data recorded during the these, you know, famously shambolic live improvisations and then elect rightly manipulate. And you know, he's working with the the young up and comers in these four separate sessions that are preserved on this on this recording. You know, it's a vibe record as much as I song based record. And it's a great vibe because you get the feel of musicians recording in a room, and then he's working with these manipulating these tracks sampling chopping looping afterwards to create these little, discreet pieces of music. For me. The highlight is that British Barbadian tenor saxophone player Shibata Hutchings, which we heard on that song which would just played. It gets really fierce. Yeah. You know, midway through and Hutchings is ROY in the center of that. We get this. Great Transi hypnotic five on on the London sessions with a song called sweet house, which some people have said that's kind of a house music song. That it's called that. So you're getting these wonderful cross pollination of John roots in this recording. And I think it's just a wonderful introduction to this new wave of jazz for people neither you nor. I are going to make a comparison to electric miles likely not being hyperbolic, you know, kids, let me tell you one of the downsides of being a popular music critic is I know you feel the same way we don't get to buy anything anymore. We listen to every not that people even buy records anymore. I can't wait to go out and buy the vinyl album here because it's a double album and one single vinyl side is is devoted to each of the four sessions New York, Chicago London LA, this is a global tour of the wealth of creativity happening in you name. The Jarrah hip, hop, electron EQ music, ambient music, jazz, all of the above and many more. I mean, it's just it's a brilliant and yet easy to listen to seductive album. I tell you this whole island was bewitch. As often as possible on sound opinions. We'd like to take a trip to that desert island the water's cold time of year, Jim, but you're going to swim out there anyway and play a track you cannot live without what's it going to be go someplace warm, Greg. I'm going to Los Angeles. I had a pow come visit from Utah. And he's a man I feel guilty about admitting this I went to see X right, which is now on this stall act, and that got me on this X kick again, and I had to make a five and a half hour drive to demoain and back each way five and a half hours, and I just listened to under the big black sun nonstop for for for ten plus hours through the cornfields between Chicago and demoain. Oh my God. I remember being a kid when this album came out nineteen eighty to the major label debut by X after two fairly rough sounding independent hardcore punk records. All the sudden. It's like that moment where Dr the wizard of Oz. Everything goes technicolor, you know. Ex- embraces its country roots. It embraces American roots music brings it into the hardcore punk and comes up with sound. I'd never heard before. And then you go see them live and DJ bone break. Was this phenomenal monster drummer and Billy zoom scared me, you know, this rockabilly God with a frozen face who would stare right through you playing these incredible Chuck Berry on acid licks, of course, John Doe, and exceed survey trading, those harmonies, I don't think they ever sounded better than under the big blacks on the song that kept jumping out to me was the have nots nineteen eighty two John Doe in his Primo beat poet Charles Buchatsky phase is talking about the bottom of the ninety nine percent of America. Dawn come soon enough for the working class. It keeps getting sooner or later. This is the game that moves. As you play. He is serving the bottom of the barrel drunk bars of Los Angeles Buchatsky made famous right, and he named checks a bunch of them at the Heidi high and the hula girl, he's going down the list going bar hopping. And he's talking about people who no longer have any hope all they have to look forward to his shot and a beer after another harder day, but the propulsion of the guitar and the wonderful harmonies that exhibition ED's to her. Then husband's you know, rough grou- there's this glimmer of hope x the have not from nineteen eighty to sound. Right. The have nots by X under the big black sign. Greg goal was again what you don't have to convince me twice that to do that. That's a great record. Great choice. Jim next week on the show. We're going to do some very treasures right records that you need to hear. You can download sound opinions wherever you get your podcast thing. He's the show as always was produced by Brendan Benazech. Alex clayborn Ianna contraire, Andrew Gill. Let's be honest. There's too much news to catch up on especially after a long day at work. 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Ted calling from Chicago listened to protest songs episode and one song that I thought would have really played. Well there Jason is white man's world. Batting stale not to. One. Talks about the history of racism in our country. I was at the Reimann last week. And I heard him play it. It'd be Nashville crowd of ninety eight percent white people. And I think that bringing a great message you all, but as a hope lash out country slash rocker, white artists is a great opportunity you change much. Thanks. My name is Carol. I'm from Albuquerque New Mexico enjoyed the so this is. Steve. Have you grown up in jail? If she wanted intertwined. All the cross is. Learned scar Crossman hard. It's ten mile wide and overall, I think he wrote the great protest. Oh, thank you. Hi, my name is Lynn cover if my favorite folks that song. Black. Written by Tyler of one hundred. That time. This song Farley. Narrator and an invitation the love themselves and the commitment to collect very free. Topic? 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The Best Albums of 2018

"Hey, I'm Brian Hiatt. This Rolling Stone music. Now, I'm in the studio, rob Sheffield renting convert Spanos and Simon votes Levin center. That's all we could fit actually. But we thought we would celebrate the year that just passed again by looking at the best albums of two thousand eighteen before we get to an album by album sort of breakdown we've done this before. And usually we end up talking about what the overall trends, look like for the year and one thing I'm curious about where is the year that was Twenty-eight teen especially in America this insane year. We're are the sort of realities of twenty eighteen reflected if it all in the music on this list. I'd be curious. If anyone has any thoughts on that. I didn't see too much of the vast majority of like Papa weren't really engaging with the news cycle in that kind of way. I also think that we haven't been in this moment for that long. Don't think great art of the Trump ages upon us just yet. I think mostly people are still looking to music to just be music if someone like Drake who's like the artist of the time right now isn't gonna like he's never been the kind of person to engage with what's going on in the world. He's kind of always giving you what's going on with Drake. And I think a lot of people are kind of following suit. Even someone like Connie who like is very much commenting on what's going on in the world. The music doesn't really reflect that he's really not getting into it. If you watched him over the past year, kind of torch his own reputation, and then we're like will he better exploit all this with his album, you going to be very disappointed the Renault like coherent thoughts about what he was saying on record. Now, I think I think you're right. I think a lot of ways this year is about escapism God of the best records that we like presented an alternate world where things sucked plus and we're more enjoyable and. Yeah, that's an important thing. That pop can do we saw that follow up for twenty seventeen rissole very immediate reaction. Very kind of like this are over sponsors from people. Some to strong extent, we saw some really great albums that were very political and some didn't work. And so I think this year was again, like the escapism a little bit more just like fun within the pop realm and things that weren't necessarily responding very literally to politics of the time. How about the state of the Ottoman a hole in the past couple years we've done this. We've had varying thoughts about where the album art form stands in. This streaming world. That's being made. What are these albums? Tell us about where album is for MS pick artists take albums more seriously now than they ever have. I think artists see the album as their this is where I am this year as opposed to last year things. So you'd think about mega-blockbusters from this year. Whether it's Drake scorpion, Arianna sweetener very much concept album, you kind of statements for the most part they see albums as the vehicle for transformation of this is who I am now is an artist as opposed to where it was. Time and artists take albums more seriously than ever paradoxical. It may seem right as Brendan kinda hinted it if you're drinking it's like a state of the Drake address, that's the whole point. And I think that might be why this obsession with the idea of eras now pop fans are they deleted their instrument is this the start of a new era at which is corny. But that's beaks to what you're talking about. There's there's a lot of talk about the death of the album, but it's mostly circling around the business aspects not the tick, I just think like just because the Drake singles get streamed more than scorpion. As a whole doesn't mean, Drake. Didn't put a whole lot of work into making scorpion. Aside a inside be album. I think really what's going on is we're like quantifying what people actually listen to a little better. And where if you like to single on the radio, you would go buy the CD at target and therefore everyone was like good album. Now, we're seeing exactly what songs people listen to and it's causing a lot of hand wringing. But I think that that was the way people always listen to elba's, there's probably a danger. Like over constantly focusing on this new data that we have because we didn't always have it. And there's something it's so fascinating. But maybe as we get used to having it we can sometimes just put it aside. Rob Sheffield has this amazing idea, which is that we maybe start going through these lists starting with number one. Which is very interesting. I, you know, it's it's a radical idea. I think we can do it. There's a bunch of these albums that are if you're listening to this show you've heard a lot of talk about. So we'll we'll turn into belabor the ones you've heard a lot about. But you know, the the the year Cardi B invasion of privacy was the number one album of the year, according to wrong snow, and I mean, it's really interesting. I mean, it also was an incredibly popular album. It isn't the kind of like traditional quote, unquote, critics pick that you might associate with the number one on a list like Rolling Stones. And I think it's pretty interesting that we chose something like this. So what was the thinking behind that? I know simul is a big advocate among others. Yeah. I mean, the the behind it, I think is that Cardi made an incredibly cohesive back to front enjoyable album, which is something that a lot of bigger and more famous artists have not been able to do in the last few years you can play invasion of privacy. And it's like a tight forty five minutes. You never wanna hit skip or turn it off her force personalities, so strong and so consistent. It's just the most fun to listen to you came out into eighteen. Fair enough. You know, we are in a new era, and it's it's a little bit of a statement for us as well. And it falls through the entire rest of the list. I don't know if we need to play any Cardi because we again, we've been doing that all year, but. And we'll keep doing it. I think part of what's made it such an influential record funny like almost instant influences. Just that it's a it's a record made by a great pop fan who's really shameless fan the way she celebrates all the music she likes whether she has like a by graphical connection to it or not in. So her dirty south song, just like very like the big, yes or her salsa song at you know, I like it like that celebrating and mixing up different types of music, just because she loves him, and she's passionate about them. Which is I think what makes it such a utopian album that it's a celebration of all the different traditions that she brings into her music, and let's actually hear the dirty south song bacon. Head. And number two was Casey must grabs golden hour and Casey got nominated for a bunch of Grammy. She may have very big night at the Grammys, and this is a pretty non-radical album. It's just a bunch of beautiful song sung beautifully of for Casey. It's kind of a step forward in the sense that it's released country album attor most pop album, there's something like something. Like, oh, what a world I think that's the one that starts out with like vocal type effects in the voice, which is radical only in the world of country singer like completely unravel for anyone else. You know, I've I've actually been kind of making a case for this. I'm all year, even on the show. But because if anyone else has some say about it, I think all of Casey's discography has been really strong by this one was the most experimentation that she's done high horse being kind of like fun disco pop song. I think she really just wanted to play with her own kind of persona and a lot of ways. And really test the limits of what it means to be a country star right now, especially for a woman country where country does not respect or want to let the women that are in the Jon Rao really speak for themselves on radio on the charts. And so she was like I'm just gonna have some fun with us and make a really just kind of fun pop album. Casey, also when I spoke to her about the album, she's explicitly said kinda would silent was saying about addressing the times because she is sometimes political artist she felt that there's value and just making something of beauty that is the provides a little escapism and provides maybe a vision of you know, a better world. But some I think. Yeah. Well, what he did with this? She made her sound bigger popular shinier, and at the same time may feel her most personal and intimate element. That's really hard needle the thread a lot of pop stars try that and can't quite nail. It casey. Really? Did it? It's a it's almost a concept. Double about kind of like, the joy of her like new love with her husband and such bullets hero would a world before move on. Become. The neon. Number three, KOMO Kabale. Camilla? We've spoken a lot about this about her. We've we'll continue continue. We didn't entire episode about her and the them. But you know, it just I think it's one of those ones that kept rising people's estimation. Even after its releases just really really solid, and there's a lot going on. And you've been listening to the whole time. I think yeah, I think that when it comes to breaking away from a pop group, and especially with the sort of year of experimentation that she had with what her soul of San would even be I think to make something that was as effective as Alba is. But also, really cohesive really, strong really fun and feels like a really good reflection of her taste of who. She is. And you know, being just like a young pop star experimenting with sounds. I think she sounds great on it focus, and it's a it's a really fun album number four is pistol anyways, interstate gospel and pistol Annie's supergroup maranda Lambert, Ashley Monroe Angelina Presley from country, and it's we should hear gun my name change back. If we can just to get a sense of that. Get divorced. Definitely, no doubt. It's country music. But this really great songwriting. Great harmonies. Why was this? So high on the list, Simon trucked. He is just good. It's just great. And that critics on our staff of them. It's just a fantastic. Also, I love how being country gives them a license to be rock and roll without being embarrassed about being rock and roll. So this is now that has fantastic Qatar solos and fantastic drum solos and all this sort of cliches of rock and roll actual like supposedly marketed as rock and roll bands or freight to do got my name change back is fantastic. Just in terms of there's a lot of guitar a lot of rage. It's a fast song. It's an angry song. It's a funny song. It's kind of got everything and number five was on day sweetener, which we just talked about for practically an entire episode. Those about the poverty ended up being a lot about around grand baby will just move on. Because we just just go go with neck you thinking. Thank you. Thank you next to that one. Which on this not on the them. Travis Scott Astor world, and we did just talk about and Travis Scott. But there's always more to say he's on a new cover. This is it's it's I guess the second highest tip hip hop album on the on our ratings brenham make a case for for asteroid. Obviously you'd step forward for Travis. Yeah. Travis up until now has kind of been decried as this like guy who takes a lot of hip, hop pastiches, and like put them in a nice little box for the team still listen to and this kind of made the case that like what he's been doing isn't really this reinterpretation of like what kind you didn't hasn't thirteen. But like he's like a master functionalist. He's always making albums that sound best played really loud at a party or better to live show for him really because that's kind of his like, true, venue expression. And despite that this one sounded a little more restrained than you would have thought like asteroids coming out Travis guy who gets people to jump off of balconies. His shows. And it's this like, obviously maximalist portrait work, but it's also like a kind of touching ode to Houston in like his childhood in like what he always wanted from music. It's just a great album. It has a mode on it. Which is you know, also pretty good. On. All that to it has sickle mode. Yeah. No. But there's a tremendous amount of like new dimensionality. Yeah. To him on this inevitably. Let's hear Sakamoto. Yes. Yeah. Get gift gift Gano you with the pick and roll young aflame here civil. The problem with multi part song as you only get like one third of the impact quick sample. Number seven is pushed tease Daytona, which we've talked about before twenty one minute kind of perfect little album. Yeah. I mean, it's it's a perfect album, which is a strange thing not to be number one. But it is only seven tracks, and it is just about selling drugs. But it's just pushed doing push tease always done which is like rap better than everyone else. And then it was the only like really great output from Connie this year where he was like pulling out samples again and just making these like eight or sixteen bar loops and then they worked perfectly together. So just a little little diamond of out of it. I just want to speak up in pushes defense. It's not just about selling. It's also about having really expensive watches and how. Three hundred is not talked about on this one. He just sent shots infrared. Do we have infrared ready Ariella year out again? The games. Knicks beats Nick. Steady delivery pin. Equal Trump winning. The bigger question is how the ditty it was written like nozzle. But it came from point at the mercy of game with the colts. It is amazing that despite the year that KANU had he still is in some way represented in our top ten. It's kind of. As long as he's not actually talking. Yeah. It's hard to slip in your maga- bias into your beats put red hat on the beaten. He's tried. Number eight is I'm the Bernie hates to Gaga and Bradley Cooper. Even just we're all used to that. But like seeing those names together as the makers of album is still kind of like the word President, Donald Trump still like just seems crazy to me. But yes, the known do lady Gaga Bradley Cooper stars born soundtrack and Bernie never listened to it. And yeah, haven't heard a song from listening to all time. You were the movie's really good. I don't know getting to go see much has both kinds of music like all country and pop ups. But I mean, it's it's it's anti pop box. It's like all country. Come save us from Papa it's fantastic sort of like parallel universe. Alternate time line of music like nothing ever happened like after nineteen Ninety-six sort of the men in the high castle. But what if what if the horde tour turned out to be the most important thing that happened to music and the twenty? Yeah. I mean, we got over this trying to place the Bradley Cooper character in any kind of context of someone who could play arenas and into the eighteen is just that way madness lies like don't don't go there. But, you know, make a case for the album Brittany. I know part of his that the bops at are possibly supposed to be bad or actually good. Yeah. Yeah. I think especially after the last couple of Gaga albums, and I think she for some reason found more for voice in plain fake character than she did in trying to find herself in her last couple of albums. I think the song writings grade, I think it's super fun. I think Bradley Cooper for some reason sounds really good on it. I mean because he like is doing I'm Elliot voice. But like it sounds great. And I think it's just like a really fun perfect soundtrack for the film. And it's easy to listen to outside of the film as I do every day. I'm in like weirdly yet. I mean, maybe it's time to the old ways die. That's one of the great lyrics and most sort of like apropos lyrics of two thousand eighteen and you know, it's not like it wasn't written in in the third was written by Jason is Bo who's a great songwriter. So it's not like some kind of weird freaky miracle that there's great lyrics in it. But nonetheless, like one of the greatest business is bowler ever comes from the lips. Any have some Diane Warren? Yeah, have allowed the Mark Ronson worked on shallow. You have Hillary Lindsey who worked with has worked with the big little little big town or whatever and bunch of country artists, and you know, a lot of great songwriters worked with Gaga. And even Bradley Cooper them. So I love about this is the full committee of pros like sit down to make music that refutes the idea that music should be made by the committee pro so that you have like four people Mark Ronson like a whole team of experts down to write shallow by committee song. That is designed to sound like she's making it up in a parking lot at four in the morning when he's drunk you have Diane Warren one of the most nominated Oscar songwriters, right? Why's your team? You. stem. The you. And let's maybe here the the aspect that song do that. Yeah. Which I was. Looks good in this, gene. Come on with the NASCAR. You make thoughts of saying this is now somewhere will I am going. It's a good beat. Number nine, Kurt vile bottle it in and it's a very good, Kurt vile album and its other than Bradley Cooper. It's the only sort of like white guy rock type of thing in our in our top ten Kurt vile is again, very good at being Kurt violence. I'm gonna know your fan. Yeah. This is I would say this is not just a very good Kurt power. This is a great Kurt power Eckerd. It's an album full of amazing guitar solos. Weird lyrics strange jokes incredibly catchy melodies. Just a a great performance from original guy. He used to be in the band Warren drugs. He is in my opinion, better than the ban were on drugs. How would you describe his overall five it's sort of like shaggy psychedelic Philadelphia? Indie rock thing sounds a little bit like Neil young. Sometimes it sounds like the Grateful Dead. Sometimes it sounds like sonic youth. All those influences kinda mashed up into kind of long form guitar jams like stone or like stone her music in the in the best sense. It's definitely great to listen to if you're sound for sure. I I would imagine also made in that in that vibe as well, the no he he he is not he's not confirmed that you're kidding me. That's that's a mystery. All right. Let's let's hear bass ackward. I was on the b but thinking about the big got to the bay. The buyer was far away. I was on the ground looking straight into. He called the song bass ackward, and then put a bunch of backwards stuff in the songs. He definitely wasn't high. When it came up on. Number ten is Drake's scorpion. We've talked a ton about that all year. I think maybe we can move on. And we just talked and then number eleven Paul McCartney Egypt station, and I've tended to be a skeptic sometimes about like latter-day, Paul McCartney there at least two people in the room who going to beat up for saying that. But at least I come in skeptical, but there's tremendous energy and creativity inva- tally in in this record. It's pretty impressive. Honestly, I have to admit is this the best of his sort of at least a decade robber. Or where would you place it? It's a question. I don't know what you'd say. It seems like since chaos and creation in the backyard, which is real turnaround. I mean, he he'd been making good records for a few years since that like before that point. But that's that's one where he really just started to like make Paul McCartney records without thinking of them in terms of of the charts. And really everything he's done since that record Nigel Godridge such influence on everything. He's done since then has been of us. Perform lease deller quality. So I didn't even know if this is necessarily better than new which was a fantastic record. It's better than memory almost full. But you know, chaos and creation really turned it around. Yeah. I mean, he he's been on an incredible roll the last ten years. I would agree. I think you have to go back to cast creation defined that hangs together as well as this. And that has the highlights as as one it's of just like, you know, great classic Paul McCartney songs there serve fun acoustic songs. There's like a Brazilian samba song. I actually love the song. You I know this much derided sung when got me to like that one. I'm glad I'm glad I stuck with. This is the song that he he corrode with Ryan Tetter. Big producer is basically Paul McCartney's attempt to make a tower swift song and bizarrely works. It's so catchy. It's totally shameless and kind of corny went on comfortable, but it's so much fun. And that's on. Me. Where number twelve Randy Carlyle, brandy Carla's? Carlisle is a really good singer songwriter has been around for a while and has assembled kind of a really strong cult following. And this feels like a breakthrough. And I think it's it's really interesting to have a breakthrough. We put her on like artists to watch list in two thousand six or so, and it's it's kind of interesting refreshing artists make the breakthrough record ten years after their major label debut doesn't happen that much anymore. Do we have a fan of it? Here. Do we have anyone to talk about? Or just talk about it. We should probably something like the joke from that album. And let's hear that. And then we'll move on britney's fan for film work. Yes. Covering. With your client. An impeccable stunned. Ever. Let them steal your. Number thirteen is to know, Manet, dirty, computer, erode a great cover story about John. And it's it's interesting because it probably was shooting for the number one slot. It was definitely her sheeting for masterpiece. I don't know if she hit masterpiece. But it it's probably her best album and a really strong album and his age pretty well. Over the past light, whatever's ten months. Yeah. Definitely her poppy album, and her most personal I think she's left the characters behind and left behind a lot of the the sort of like Android kind of concept album, and this is still concept album. But I think it's definitely a lot more personally Rex Juneau's like we talk about how like we were talking to being about like people still making albums that are statements, and this is like you're watching someone every time she comes out with an album, she's trying to make an magnum opus like she's trying to like hit this wildly Embiid like artist statement. I don't listen to this anymore like as an as an album, but I'm like so glad that it exists as a thing that someone put out into the. It's a little bit like Zuendel. About sting. But yes, I I know what you mean. It's like it's like, I'm a big fan of thing. Not as actual music. Just the fact. I mean. But even so we know what you mean. I mean, I think RJ Android had some some better songs. But I think this was like one of those things where like everyone stopped and like took this one in in a way that you don't really expect to keep doing. But like people keep coming back with these Cam, bishop's statement and some great and wacky guest artists like having Brian Wilson Grimes and Zoe Kravitz all on the same album is fun. Let's hear Django Jayme before move on. This is my palace ship paid metallised God at all like a wedding bed wonderland. So my alias Alice. And we thought of other buck and pussy ri-. A we have to number fourteen is Mickey speed the cowboy Mickey just incredible. And kind of cheese. I think the first person this list to speak to the fact that a lot of the the great enrolled in rock was made by women this year, and she's so sophisticated in her range -ment and harmonies and just has an incredibly tight bond with her fans and great making soundscape moments like a horn section leaps in. And she just really knows what she's doing. And in a in a way. That's that's really cool. Yeah. I think I always really like, but I think this was the album that really completely sold me on her. And her talent, I think I think it's experimentation with more like glossier sound for a lot of people this year and a lot of just like a lot more pop leaning more just kind of bigger sound from all the. Artists to are kind of leaving behind especially they had more intimate sonic past think from its this album. Just really big and a lot of ways that she hasn't sounded before. Let's nobody by Mickey. To here. People to Hughes. P the number fifteen is j Galvin Simon weather this list. Well, j belvin one of the biggest stars in reggae tone. He showed in twenty seventeen that he can make a huge pop hit single with the song did beyond say this year showed that he can also make an incredibly tight cohesive pop album. This is just full of so many different sounds and styles that he glides between effortlessly it's another one of those albums you can just put on almost put on shuffle and have just a completely enjoyable experience. Number sixteen is mommy's clean, which show we interviewed. Sophie, Allison, who is soccer. Mommy on the show last year. And it's it's just another super great rock album have be by a young woman. It's really interesting to hear kind of her influences, especially as a young person listening to like Taylor, swift and ever Levin, you can hear that. But also a lot of indie rock and this stuff and. Is it just really works in another era? She might be superman stream, and in fact, still might be in this era in a few years never know, but we should hear something like still clean. Shows. So seventeen Lucy. Davis historian. This is her I second solo L p wouldn't incredible songwriter. This has has such a sharp perspective and such a really shines on this album. I think the song that really amazed people this year was nightshift. I don't know if we can play that we can't admit, but keep share. Yeah. I mean, she she put out a great album tickets in twenty sixteen that I liked a lottery debut, but she really leveled up in every way on this album. Just an incredibly immediate songwriting at servility grabs you by the Pels in makes you listen. So we have this already. Liz. Call them. Oh down. Was the say. So I think next is. Yeah. Vince, Staples, FM, one of my favorite albums, the and another super short super tight kind of perfect hip hop album. We talked a little bit about the Vince Staples actually few times this year, but we call it his slightest album, and yet it's still really good less to you have summertime six which is kind of this like maximalist like it's very long produced by no, I d kind of his real artistic entrance, but it's a big album, and then he comes out with big fish theory just to two years ago, and that one kind of feels like Vince Staples in really really experimental mode. He kind of does this thing that it's almost like he found beats that no one else could wrap over and then wrapped over them to prove that he was a better rapper than everyone else. And I loved it. It was a lot of like weird burial ask like London like early two, thousands dance music. But. Slightly more regular beats. And then you have been Staples rapping about wrapping death over them. And it was quite a project and then this year comes out with new album, and it's just straight west coast. Head nodding big beats and he's having a lot of fun. The record lasts like twenty minutes. But it's all of it's really great. There's nothing to skip. I can't imagine you wanting to skip anything, and it's just like his most concise Upham, and let's hear outside from Vince. Staples. Day. Coming up. Bye. Tonight met and number nineteen is the Philly. I think indie rock van hop along. With Brock your head off dog who wants to make the case for that one. I love that feels like Simon added, you know. Yeah, that's one of my favorite albums this year. Hop longer an incredible band, their songwriter and lead singer Francis. Quinlan is a really remarkable songwriter with an incredibly distinctive unusual voice. Really only ever sounds like herself. They made one of one of my favorite albums of the last ten or even twenty years in two thousand fifteen with album called painted shut that really raised the bar for just really well-crafted. Indie rock this year. They interestingly tried to serve prog pass that this is the album they made in two thousand eighteen park your head off dog swears in all kinds of different directions. There's a a song that sends kind of disco. There's a there string arrangements. There's a lot going on this album. And they really pulled it off. I think it's it's one of the most ambitious albums of the year and it really hit its Mark. And it really satisfying way. Let's hear how you got your limp. If we can. Number twenty is the bets future me hates me. Is there anyone besides? All right. Then we're I guess we're stuck with Simon. Yeah. The vets are great band there from New Zealand. They make really kind of traditionalist nineties. Indie rock that is incredibly fun to listen to their hoax. Are amazing songs are fast and catchy and fun rock. Here you go. Yeah. The best not the bets, but. Many many many record collections. It was a great year for India. It wasn't it. And then let's jump around since that was our top twenty. And I don't know that we're going to have time to do every one of the remaining thirty will just jump around in particular order number twenty seven is no name room twenty-five. She's incredible. Yeah. Yeah. To name is this kind of quiet person. She doesn't really like do too much except when she releases an album, and then you listen to it for I think her current streak is you'll listen to your for years just came with our telephone in two thousand fifteen which was kind of like debut album, she'd worked with chance the rapper was like on the Chicago scene. And it's this like delightful slice of life piece of hip hop, where she rapping style is really really personable. It's bordering on spoken word, very conversational. And she kind of arrived a savant and then took a couple years off which in. App is unusual right now. Everyone drops every year and to come back with something. That's like darker more insular, she's not playing to anybody. But her core fans here and it made for like, an even more impressive artistic statement in the production is just crazy and super musical all these live instruments and like a lot. Yeah. So I talked to this year. She basically she recorded the first album, and then moved to L A right after it came out thinking like all work, some producers in LA like start to like at the feel for the music scene. And she hated it. And then ended up just kind of flying out the musician. She worked on for first album, they got a house together, and basically put this together in like a like, the the bones of it in a month as crazy. It doesn't sound like it. Let's hear don't forget about me by no name. Look like, Chris sable crime had villain tissue funding famous. Mocha? See we is Disney. Disney movies too. He titled aim on thing. He's sweet till the fun essay. Did the top twenty. And now, we're kind of just jumping around the rest number forty five is Robin's comeback. I got it's been eight years with Honey. Brunell your fan. Yeah. I mean, I think it was interesting to see what happened in the eight years since we got the body talk series from Robin because every popstar imitated everything she did without series. I think everyone sort of has attempted Robin. But no one can do Robin quite like she can. And I think with Honey she came back with something. That's really understated, but didn't go overboard and do anything to excessive much like a lot of past albums. I think she really just fun. It's really emotional. It's just like a lot of sad, but up beat fund dance songs, you can cry too. But also dance to which is great. And I mean, it's just really solid work. It sounds like this. She spent a lot of time listening to Taylor SWIFT's nineteen eighty nine. Which was the Taylor swift was obviously listening to a lot of Robin sort of back until like Robin songs like this out. They've gotten a lot weepy her and slower and. To real it's really different from which he was doing with the body talk. Yeah. It's really kind of like a remarkable record. And if we can hear pretty much anything from that record. We've begun. They're active talked about a bunch last year is number twenty six Snell's lush Lindsey Jordan, eighteen years old and total prodigy and just another great rock album that again as with pretty much all the rock albums on our list happened we made by by women. And I think our entire top top five is is all women. Just cool. I think we realize that after the fact, and there was a little Wayne album this year, and we put on the list there was he's back after a really really longtime in label purgatory, and the thing is it's like just surprising that it works. It's a it's a really really solid Wayne album in. It's just one of those things that like there were couple of this year where like you hear that someone's coming with an album, and I think that's probably not going to be very good. And this one Swiss beats had another one where the guys came in in like didn't try and make an album. That sounded like twenty eight teen. It's an element sounds like little win in just kind of compresses a bunch of different stages from his career. A lot of these records were from a couple years ago rap ages badly quickly it moves fast. But these a lot of these songs sound really good right now. And it's just kind of a testament to like Lil Wayne being will win in a lot of this like get sold on sheer force of personality in the fact that he can still wrap circles around almost anyone else in the world. And there's a track Mona Lisa where he goes up against Kendrick. Which is of course, nice to hear. On this. She give us the where we come through it. She's city purple being like sailing Nepi as. And number forty one is Amanda shires to the sunset. It's an interesting sort of counterpoint to the Casey Musk's because it's another sort of country ish singer-songwriter doing some very different stuff. And some of it has a really cool sort of homemade almost garage rock feel to it. And that that's it's showers to the sunset and should not be slept on number forty is parked courts wide awake. They team with danger mouse against signs a big fan of the album. I I was really struck by like the lyrics, which are super political. They sing better than they read. I would say, yeah. Parquet courts are woke now, it's great. And they have a song in this for they hating the NFL, they've song police brutality. They have songs about climate change in structural racism like going to say meeting, but there's a guy playing guitar Simon thinks that's a good thing. Just to be. Do they have maybe they have guys playing guitars or somebody say, you know, if you go to the one that the guy from park is probably okay, Bernie say something about cupcake, which is number fifty real fast in them on the show. Yeah. She released to last year we have fries on the on the list, which is fantastic. I think she's just a really fun brilliantly versus I think she makes like really raunchy great stuff. That sounds you know, doesn't sound too over the top. But it's also just like she's such a great rapper makes it really effective in really excellent beats. And I think she's she's proving herself to be one to really really watch. This is been today's Rolling Stone music now. Thanks to some Levinson Spanos. Brennan, Clinkenbeard end, rob Sheffield will be back next week here on Sirius XM channel six. In. The meantime, we are downloaded as a podcast to podcast every podcast. Baby was nice review on tunes. In the meantime, thanks for listening seeing next. Panoply.

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Back When the Rich Ate Corpses

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Back When the Rich Ate Corpses

"Today's episode of ridiculous histories brought to you by Gillette, on demand, when I'm looking for an especially smooth comfortable shave with Noah patches. No, no, scratches I always go to Gillette razors specifically. I'm a fan of the fusion proof shield or the mach three. And my dad also uses Gillette razors. He actually taught me how to shave using a Gillette and the future is now folks with Gillette on demand, you can get blades delivered directly to your door subscribed today and give fifty percent off your first order with the special offer stuff, five zero at checkout that stuff, five zero. Enjoy free shipping. And every fourth order free with your subscription against some of the shave had in my life. Don't take my word for it. Visit Gillette online at Gillette, on demand dot com and use the code stuff. Five zero for fifty percents off your first order. Welcome to the show. Ridiculous historians, our Howell weaned streaked continues. We want to start today's episode by saying this might not be your favorite show to listen to while you're eating. You think that's fair? No, I mean, I do what you want. You know, I, I find this to be strangely appetizing. I don't know why. Yeah, I'm a fan of trying new things. Have you ever eaten human meat. Not knowingly, but there's some interesting things we will discover about cannibalism along the way today. My name is Ben. Let's hear shout out for our guest super producer. Returning guests super producer. Paul tech. Oh, that's great. Delayed reaction. So Paul, have you ever eat human meat. Shaking his head vehemently will. This is interesting too, because does it count as auto cannibalism if you ever chewed your fingernails. Oh, come. Now that seems like a semantic rabbit hole there. It is. It is a bit of one, but we are. I don't know. Like we've oath eating some pretty weird interesting, unique things, but you have never knowingly consumed man flash now. I've not, but as as we learn for hundreds of years, it was not just a thing that people occasionally did. It was considered something healthy, right? It was, and I think this conversation today is twofold. It's about the about the power of belief, the placebo effect. You know, I was having a really interesting conversation with my dear friend, Frank yesterday about how so many things boil down to the placebo effect. If we can convince ourselves that something is efficacious, whether spiritually whether mentally mentally psychologically, then it's a way of kind of actively tricking your mind into making you feel a certain way. And so many of these things are talking about today where like blood. If you drink the blood of a healthy person, it will make your blood better, bright this China, sympathetic magic. Almost this magical thinking. The thing that's fascinating about the placebo effect is it does have. Measurable quantifiable results. People can physically improve certain medical conditions based on the power of belief alone and at the time when this was in vogue in the period that we will be discussing today because seventeenth sixty seventeenth centuries kinda peaked, right. Yeah, that's when peaked in Europe. At least right back then it didn't understand the placebo effect. You only measured things by their perceived results, and I believe this, this practice of consuming human flesh and blood for medicinal purposes, really peaked in Germany, England, Italy, and France, right toward the end of the renaissance. That's right. And some of the formation then we're talking about today, come from a fascinating book by a guy named Dr Richard sug who teaches over at England's university of Durham, and he wrote a book called mummies cannibals vampire. The history of corpse medicine from the renaissance to the Victorian and this stuff was not just for the well to do you know the the elite. It was something that trickled down sometimes quite literally in the form of spurting gushes of blood coming from the next of execution victims in the square to the lower class who believe in this stuff just as much and would go to great pains to get access to whatever they could. Of course, the upper class had allow more access freshest of the fresh, the best of the best in terms of their their parts. They were using to make some of these remedies and as mentions in an interview with the Smithsonian the question was not so much should we eat human flesh, but it was more a question of what sort of flesh is best to eat. What sort of human flesh is best to eat. And at first Egyptian mummies were tremendously popular. Yeah, because they, I mean, I don't know. It seems like that would be a a lot to go through to get yourself, get your hands on a legit, Egyptian mummy over in Europe. I don't know. There were quite a few. There was a mummy glut for some time. Yeah, that's right. Mummies were a big part of this trend. Here's the thing they would do things like grind up human skulls and then distill them down to alcohol to make something that later became popularized by king Charles the second of England in the form of tincture that he referred to as the kings drops, which again was human skull, powdered and dissolved in alcohol, and it supposedly cured everything from epilepsy to, you know, various seizures, headaches. You know, whatever you got the kings drops can can cure what else you. And that's. That's where things get interesting here because I don't think there's obviously no way to know. Scientific data that we have to measure how effective the stuff would have been. It was that power of belief it seems like to me right this, this is a panacea. Anytime that a medicine is proclaimed to be essentially a cure all. It may have some sort of benefit effect on certain conditions, but it's almost completely unlikely that it would treat all of the conditions listed. They also in addition to the kings drops, the used human fat. Human fat was an external treatment. German doctors wanted to soak bandages and human fat, or rub fat onto the skin as a remedy for gout. This kind of stuff may sound sort of gruesome and scary to us now. But back then this was seen as something that was the well feels unfair to say it, but the bleeding edge of science. You know, these were scientists and doctors and. Priest who were recommending this treatment and taking themselves totally. And it's like, you know, it's really easy to write this offer some sort of dark ages, kind of like bloodletting or leaching or whatever. But you know, this had the backing of at least the some of the greatest minds of the time. One of which was a German Dr German Swiss doctor for the sixteenth century named para celsius, and he was all about drinking blood and thought that it could help keep you from aging. Some of these ideas that we have of vampirism even right, like the being forever young or whatever, or that it could. Like we said this notion of like cures, like meaning that if you have a blood condition or you know you're Nemec or something that drinking someone else's blood, preferably of a young person possibly virgin. And a big thing they really liked was people that were killed under violent circumstances because supposedly that made it more potent than someway, right. The blood was more. Vital and not only not only was the blend more vital if someone was killed under violent circumstances, but it was more vital if it was given to directly from the executioners who are these social outcasts thought to have profound magical abilities executioners were seeing there were still social lepers, but they were. They were seen as great healers to and we we should mention that this this kind of practice while it had it had a heyday in western Europe to the end of the renaissance. This belief in light cures like cannibalism as medicine dates, way back into antiquated in ancient Rome. People who suffered from epilepsy, drink the blood of slain gladiator, Dr even like eight their livers believe strew mean, you know that's about as fresh as it gets. But yeah, it's true Ben. It was a very popular practice that as soon as the event was over. Epileptics would run down and try to drink the blood directly from the body, something they would refer to as the living blood. And there was even a Roman doctor names GRA bonus largest who tried to justify some of these things through all kinds of Cedo scientific suggestions and indicated that if you ate, the liver of a stag was killed by a weapon that was used to kill a gladiator in that also would be imbued with the magical powers of the fallen gladiator, the the the, what's the word, the vitality, kind of right? And don't worry. This wasn't all just running up and trying to immediately get fresh blood from a corpse before it quieted. There were also recipes where you would you would cook stuff and prepare it and in mummies, cannibals in vampires. You can find some depictions of these recipes. So. The first step was to take blood from quote persons of warm moist, temperament, such as those of blotchy red complexion, and rather plump of build. And then you would let it dry or quietly into a sticky mass, and then you would place it on a flat spoon table of softwood cut into thin little slices, let the watery parts drip away, then put it on a stove on the same table, stir it into a batter, wait until it's absolutely dry. Put it on a warm, bronze mortar, pounded through Seve of finest silk and win. It has all been seved, seal it in a glass jar, renew it in the spring of every year. So this was also associated with the passage of seasons, you know, sort of the sort of macro version of individual life, death and rebirth. Hey, everyone. We're ridiculous history, and we want to tell you about a brand new app. We discovered an app just for investing. It's called Robin Hood. Answer I Robin Hood and investing at that lets you buy and sell stocks e f, s.'s options, and crypto currencies. All commission free. They tried to make financial services work for everyone including investment neophytes like me and Ben, not just the wealthy yet it's none intimidating waiver stock market newcomers to invest for the first time with true confidence, you'll, let's go back to the some of the high points of this. I love that they're no commission fees. Other brokerages may charge up to ten dollars for every trade, but Robin Hood does not full stop year round who was actually kind enough to give us a little bit of scratch to invest. And we've been having a really good time doing it's very intuitive, very clean. Other brokerages charge up to ten dollars for every robinhood does not charge us or you a dime, so you can trade stocks and keep all of your. If it's the design, the ease of use, it's out of this world, easy to understand charts and market data place a trade in just four taps right on your smartphone. You can learn how to invest as you build your portfolio. You can discover new stocks and track favorite companies with your own personalized news feed, and you get custom notifications for price movements. So you never miss the right moment to invest. And today just for hanging out with ridiculous history, Robin Hood wants to give you a free stock like apple Ford, or sprint to help build your portfolio, sign up at history, Robin Hood dot com. That's right. Just go to history dot, Robin Hood dot com and sign up now. I've got a favorite quote from a an article in atlas obscure about this Subject. European corpsman isn't promised better health through cannibalism. And this comes from a tome called the pharmacopoeia metro key Mika Kimiko I believe Kimiko and this was by a German doctor named Johann Schroder, and this was written in the seventeenth century. And this is kind of the end all be other sort of sums up, sort of like what the Kremlin cram of the specimen that you might be after two to get you some of these sweet sweet human meat. Bits quote, take the fresh unsponsored cadaver of a red headed man because in them the blood is thinner and the flesh hints more excellent aged about twenty four, the body, the guy, a person, twenty four years old who has been executed, indict violent death, let the corpse lie one day and night in the sun and moon, but the weather must be good. Cut the flesh in pieces and sprinkle. It with myrrh and just a little aloe, then soak it in spirits of wine for several days hanging up for six or ten hours, soak it again and spirits of wine. Then let the pieces dry and dry air in shady spot. No us the, they will be similar to smoked meat and we'll not stink. Yes, think is important. You don't want to much aloe like that's just basic cannibalism one one right there. You know what I mean? Nothing ruins and otherwise. Fantastic cadaver more than too much aloe. You have to be moderate with that. And as we said, this was again, this was not a bad thing. These people who were being consumed, although there were almost certainly being consumed without their consent. In most cases, they were not being punished. A European practitioners of this believed that they were acquiring vitality, but they didn't think they were, you know, stealing the souls of their enemies or something agre. Of of that nature. There's a very interesting point bring up in lappam's quarterly roundtable, a brief history of medical cannibalism by best Lovejoy, which is that while people in Europe were consuming blood or livers or human flesh using human fat as a pulse for wounds, they were also tremendously discriminatory against a couple of other kinds of cannibalism. One would be the alleged practices of indigenous Americans, which were wildly exaggerated spun out into these racist tall tales of sworn monstrous managing people living on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean. And then the second one was discrimination against Catholics because transit stanchion right that the wafer wine one consumes a communion does in fact become the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ. So. So they said these people are cannibals while they are rubbing human body fat on their gal, Bouba areas on their booze. And this this seems again seem strange. It seems like some double think. Did you see the quote from that anthropologist kind of referred to this being very hypocritical and I'm trying to find it. You may have in front of you, right? And it was a good one will there. There were people who were against this or at least notice the hypocrisy. Very early on there was a French writer named Michelle de Montaigne. Sorry, Casey Hooper doing you proud here who in fifteen eighty attacked the hypocrisy of Europeans who condemned these practices? And you said, essentially, you cannot condemn people for practicing one kind of ritualized spiritual cannibalism while you are happily grinding up mummies and drinking tinctures and skulls and having the kings drops. And then other people like in fifteen sixty six even earlier than that. The herbalist leonoard feuds. Type. One had attacked this quote, gory, madder of cadavers, sold for medicine. Wondering who in less he approves of cattle ISM would not low this remedy. Here's what I was talking about. Yeah, that's all fascinating and completely on point visiting the this cultural and medical anthropologist from Vanderbilt name. Beth Konkan in the Smithsonian article talks about the distinction between non western cannibalism of like indigenous tribal the notion of ritual cannibalism, and the kind that we're talking about in the former there is such a huge relationship between the eat her and the e. You know, as though you are specifically soaking up their spirit in some way or like capturing some spiritual essence or with your ancestors with your ancestors, right? And and what we're talking about it is that was gone. That was like totally irrelevant. It's much more about. The notion of that light cured like yours, like analogy of like, I'm going to drink your blood gonna, fix my blood. You know, it's a lot less spiritual. It's much more pseudoscientific really. Right. Right. Because it was seen as technology rather than an article of faith. And that is not to say that we don't do things today, like get blood transfusions or liver transfusions. One could equate to absorbing someone else's fluids or Misra, you know, it's always not the same as just like, you know, munching down rights also since we are in one of the spookiest seasons of the year, I do feel it is appropriate for us to mention that despite the scientific pursuit that was occurring in Europe, there was also a history of using human body parts for magical purposes, like a thieves candle or a hand of glory. These candle being a candle made out of human fat right for, I guess. Yeah. And up until up into the eighteen eighties. These thieves candles were used to stupefy paralyze a person I myself could see it working because if someone a human fat candle in front of me, I would be shocked at least for a short time. I would be very surprised if anyone did that and knoll I have a and I've been waiting. I don't know if now is the time, but to learn about something related to this, but equally strange. Yeah, it's a little bit sweeter. Have you ever heard of the Mela fide man now San chance, tasty. It's a human mummy confection. So this was a legendary medicinal substance created by steeping a willing human corpse in Honey, it dates back to the fifteen hundred. So even kind of around the same time period Chinese. Doctor named Lee, she's earn was reporting that in Arabia in the modern day, Middle East, some elderly men nearing the end of their lives would mummify themselves in Honey. And this process Mela fixation would start before they died. So the men were seventy or eighty years old. And when they made the decision to become a Mela fide person, they took no more food or drink only bathing needing a little Honey 'til a month after his ex Chritah are nothing but Honey, and then he dies. They put the body in a stone coffin, likewise of Honey with an inscription giving the year and month of burial. After a hundred years, the seals are removed and the confection is used to treat wounds and fractures and broken limbs. And you only have to do it kind of like the kings drops you only consume. Hugh drops orally and. The doctor says, he doesn't know whether or not this is a true tale, but for hundreds of years afterwards, the same sort of people who are like, you know what's going to cure my puppy, mummy dust. We need to find one of these Honey corpses. And now even now, people are still debating whether or not this actually happens. And the thing to that I've gotten from several sources just the perspective on this as that it was almost treated. It wasn't really magical thinking exactly in this period because it was backed by that. This renaissance kind of ideal of progress and like you know, medical innovation, but it was almost like almost kind of like a holistic type thing, right? We're almost was the way you would be. There were a lot of these herbs in different kind of listed remedies mixed in, like, for example, even that little quote that I read earlier about what kind of body to prepare and like how to slice it up and make, you know, human. Jerky out of it talked about soaking in an aloe. An aloe is known to have some kind of holistic benefits far as like calming the stomach or different things like that. In a lot of these recipes, you see mixed with things like murder and peony and like all of these kind of things that you might see in a little bit more of a holistic remedy type herbalist kind of book. Right? So I don't know. It's interesting. There's sort of a combination there. I wonder if it was less the the human meat and more the, you know, tummy combing herbs, right? And there's there's another book which shout out here a Louise's noble. The author of medicinal cannibalism in early modern English literature and culture has also pursued a similar research to the book. We mentioned earlier mummies, cannibals and vampires, and what they keep confirming is that while there were some opponents, there were very, very few opponents for far fewer than you might think. Most people at this time in Europe were generally on board with this and did not think it was a did. Not think it was an ethical quandary. Ah, didn't think it was immoral that we talked about. We've talked about resurrection men before the idea of digging up bodies in order to perform autopsies because that was very in vogue around this time to sure a science of breaking down the human body and figuring out how what makes it tick. But that was definitely happening as well to get some of these specimens. Right. Yeah, absolutely. And I wanna go on record here saying, I think it's time we resurrect resurrection men at least the phrase is just too cool to let it die. It should be like a superhero crew. Yeah. Yeah, I'm surprised. It's not already or a wrestling team or something. I don't know. Let us know what you think. What kind of group would be called resurrection men today in twenty eighteen. That has good question van and I'd like to know there are some other key even more. More messed up places that these bodies were acquired one in particular, it was from Ireland because the Irish were in Europe pretty severely looked down upon and they, you know, the high falutin European air stock Crecy probably didn't think much of importing some Irish cadavers and particular. There was one remedy that I think is fascinating. It was a type of moss that would grow on a skull. Yeah, and that was a very popular one as well. And it was specifically indigenous to Ireland. The moss, their skulls were plucked from battlefields battlefield and mass graves. And you know, even, of course, the people that are going to get the brunt of this, they're going to be the poor that are in unmarked graves or more like mass graves, but I don't think it was beneath some of these folks that were trying to make a buck to maybe even do a little digging up of Mark grave. Right, offer cemeteries and sued makes a great note about this because he, he'd splaine's how the Irish were seen as as he said no deeply inferior on some level. And according to him, quote into the author, corpse medicines were often derived from bodies alienated in various ways from ordinary humanity, distant, most of all from you, whether you are merchant thief and apothecary physician or patient. And this is this is an incredibly important point because we're uttering things. These people thought it would be completely uncivil to eat the skull of someone they knew from town. You know what I mean, your fellow neighbors. Skull shouldn't be in your kings drops. It had to be something exotic something different, something a little bit less human in the mind of the person taking this sort of treatments. Hey, everyone. We're ridiculous history, and we want to tell you about a brand new app. We discover an app just for investing. It's called Robin Hood. Answer I Robin Hood and investing at that lets you buy and sell stocks e f, s.'s options, and crypto currencies. All commission free. They tried to make financial services work for everyone including investment neophytes like me and Ben, not just the wealthy yet it's none intimidating wave for stock market newcomers to invest for the first time with true confidence, you'll, let's go back to the some of the high points of this. I love that they're no commission fees. Other brokerages may charge up to ten dollars for every trade, but Robin Hood does not full stop year round who was actually kind enough to give us a little bit of scratch to invest. And we've been having a really good time doing it's very intuitive, very clean. Other brokerages charge up to ten dollars for every robinhood does not charge us or you a dime, so you can trade stocks and keep all of your. Fits the design. The ease of use. It's out of this world, easy to understand charts and market data place a trade in just four taps right on your smartphone. You can learn how to invest as you build your portfolio. You can discover new stocks and track favorite companies with your own personalized news feed, and you get custom, notify price movements, so you never miss the right moment to invest. And today just for hanging out with ridiculous history, Robin Hood wants to give you a free stock like apple Ford, or sprint to help build your portfolio, sign up at history, Robin Hood dot com. That's right. Just go to history dot, Robin Hood dot com and sign up now. I guess one of the questions people have is going to be what, what happened next? How did this fall out of vogue yet? I don't know. It was. There's evidence of it happening as recently as like eighteen hundreds, right? Yes. So didn't just fall right out of oak? No, maybe people just stopped being as open about it and for the fans of the x. files and such in the crowd, it evokes this image, perhaps of people secretly feeding on feed on blood or human flesh to extend their own life spans or treat various medical conditions. And boy, do we have a story for you on a different show? We talked about this in a episode on modern vampires here in the US as we as we record this episode. There are two different companies that force significant amount. Of money will transfer the blood or the plasma specifically of young person into the body of an older person in the hopes of extending their lifespan and the quality of their life. Do you remember that one? Yeah. And it makes me think of that radio heads on hail to the fief. We suck young blood. Just so that's a creepy one. But yeah, it's always what I think of it's intense and you think of it as being this thing that like only the elite, you know, mega evil, like the elitist of the elite most evil mega maniacal humans would ever consider doing. But then when you see the way it happened throughout history, you know, drinking blood from the neck of the body on the chopping block, they literally would pay a couple bucks or whatever to the execution of get a little Cup of the blood, you know, warm and fresh. You start to realize that like, no, this is not exclusively in the realms of the the elite yet it's not exclusively confined to the past. In fact, in recent years, there's been a cannibalism crisis in certain African countries where where people who have people, row binders who have albums, right where the skin is very, very light are being hunted because their body parts are used. In magical rituals. So this this continues, but this is a little different because it's not seeing as a science. Again, the folks who were doing this during the renaissance period that we're talking about, we can't emphasize this enough, but we will try. They did not think they were doing anything bad. They did not think they were villains. They thought they were early adopters or people who were eliminated to ancient medicinal lore. Interesting. They have to wonder, you know what? What was it like back then? Especially when so many. So many conditions were fatal or a death sentence. You can't blame people for looking for hope wherever they could find did I saw an amazing image of the day of some Egyptian dental work, and it was like holes were drilled in the center of the teeth and they were like, you know, strung together with bits of gold wire. Or copper, whatever, really, really painful looking, but I guess a better alternative than I don't know. It seems like let the teeth while out. I think I've seen similar photos and the it made me feel like my mouth hurt. Just looking at it. You know what I mean? Experienced vicarious paying, and we have to ask know while it's easy for us to distance ourselves from this today, what would you do if consuming some sort of tincture potion or wearing some sort of pulses of human flesh could help treat a wound faster or more efficiently than modern medical techniques? Would you do it? Would you would you want to know the provenance of the against the human medicine that you are consuming, or would you rather it be anonymous? I don't know because people do a lot of stuff to stay alive. Yeah, they really do. They do. They do this day and I think the placebo effect largely is still in play. You know, despite doctors sort of quickness to prescribe something that will cure a particular, you know, illness. I think a lot of times people get more psychologically dependent on stuff, especially in the realm of like mental health, the antidepressants and anxiety medications. I think it's easy to discount how powerful the mind is these situations. Just think that medicine can just flip a switch and like make you better. They're still that's like a logical component that I think is just as important as it was when people were, you know, eating corpse juice dust, of course paste. Absolutely. Oh, corpse bills. There's still there's probably something like that still around and we don't want to end on a down. No, we hope that you found this as darkly fascinating as we both did, but let's let's end on something a little more conversational and fun and less grim knoll. What do you say to some listener mail? I love it. No, this is this is a short one, and it's someone pickiness on something that we digging pinging tugging pinging with a p.. Okay, as giving us a little poke like potential. Yeah. Got Hoke. Ryan, m eurodent and said, dear Ben Nolan. Casey, I think it would be monumentally ridiculous impossibly quite educational to feature an entire episode exclusively in Richard Nixon impersonations. I just listened to your episode about Richard Nixon and Louis Armstrong, and I would like to challenge you to do the aforementioned Nixon episode so long as it has nothing to do with Nixon. Thanks guys. Keep it ridiculous at as tall order, man. I was. I was on board with that. We throw it out there as kind of a joke, but we have got a lot of feedback that people would like to hear do Nick all Nixon episode, but I don't think I'd be able to keep character. I think we can do this is my pitch and let me know what you think. Ridiculous historians. I think we could do a segment. How about that? Like ten, fifteen minutes? I think we do that. We could it be a recurring segment. It could be recurring segment. It could even be okay, this is why we love doing the show with each other because now we are actively brainstorm in live. It could just be different impersonations that's true or it could be Nixon's commenting on the news nixing on the news and on the news Nixon's on the Nixon's on the news. All of our segments have to have a literary and Casey. On the case Nixon's on the news. We're kind of a wintry. We gotta work with fact, genie, we're still workshop. Well, we, we've kinda killed that segment. We, I think we do. We do it more than one. I think we may be did it twice. I think we should go back to the drawing on that whole. So the vision board, you mean? So what do you have a listener mail? Do we call your interest? Shorty, the subject is spam, but it is not spam, but it's about spam and it comes from Benjamin s and says, I was into your. Episode. When I heard you say that Russian food is gross, all you have to do is try to break or tobourka. I'm not quite sure at c. h. e. r. e. k. I heard a couple of different ways, but he says this opinion will disappear. Just look it up. If you wanna make it yourself, I would recommend the YouTube channel life of Boris. You guys have a great show and I'm always excited for the next episode. We'll thank you Benjamin and I did look it up and it looks delicious rate. It's almost like an impetus almost like an like a combination of like exactly, but it's like I'm hand pie, meat pie kind of thing. Let's see what some of the filling options ground or minced meat, but they also have onions added in there. It's a national dish of the tar people. Interesting. Yeah. For lamb, I love lamb. I would go for lamb, but yeah, that does look fantastic. And I'd never heard of that one before, but it is very similar to like an Panatta almost like a Perot gear. Something like pats past e. You ever had a past? Yes, yes. Is that a Pennsylvania thing? Certainly that part of the country, right? Yeah, probably. I mean, look, I'm always down for turnover, meat, pie kind of situation. That's just who I am. I've accepted it, lean into it. 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Dua Lipa Talks 'Experimental' New Music, Grammy Buzz & Steamy 'Electricity' Video

Pop Shop

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Dua Lipa Talks 'Experimental' New Music, Grammy Buzz & Steamy 'Electricity' Video

"Hey, everybody and welcome to the billboard dot com pop shop podcast. My name is Keith Caufield and I am the senior director of charts at billboard and joining me as always his billboards, deputy editor, digital Katya concern. I Katie. Oh, hey, Keith, how's it going? It's great. We are back together in the same location in the Los Angeles office billboard. I mean, even yesterday morning, we both weren't even in the state of California and now here we are recording. Wait. That's right. You you weren't. I was at a co workers wedding. That's right. Yes. Denise mourner to change your last name? Yes, she did what she did not professionally, though. We'll just keep her as Denise Warner on the podcast. What's her title? She's Bill were dot com news out of there. She's the editor of billboard dot com. Well, since cinder, congratulations to niece began without Denise. The pop shop wouldn't exist on dot com. Technical, that's credit because the website wouldn't exist without her. There's that too. Well, as always the billboard pop shop. Podcast is your one stop shop for all things pop and. Warners wedding on Billboard's weekly charts. In addition, you can always count on a lively discussion about the latest pop news, fund charts, doubts stories, new music, and guest interviews with music stars and folks from the world of pob today on the show. We've got lots of news about Taylor swift from her making a rare statement on politics and taking the stage for some surprise collaborations with Marianne Morris and Sugarland in the past few days. Plus we've got big charts news about little Wayne share and Paul McCartney also on the show. We have an interview with do a leap, and we'll liba the popstar chats with us all the doors that new rules open for her, the Grammy buzz around her this year, speaking up for her fans and more so stick around for all that. But first before we get started, if you enjoy the podcast subscribe to the show on apple podcasts or your favorite podcasts providers, so you won't miss an episode. And if you want to explore more podcast from billboard, visit billboard dot com, slash podcasts. Let's do some chart chat. I up little Wayne land says fourth number one album on the billboard, two hundred chart. As of the Carter five debuts atop tally the set bows with four hundred eighty thousand equivalent album units earned in the weekend in October fourth, according to Nielsen music, and that some is the third largest week for an album in two thousand eighteen further. The Carter five also opens with the second biggest streaming week ever for an album with four hundred thirty, three million on demand audio streams logged for its songs in its first week. Okay, lots of little lane. Talk. In fact, we could actually have sort of a whole show around little Wayne's jersey cast the wheezy the wheezy cast. And do you think that exists? Probably does a little way might have a podcast called the Wease cast the big little way news isn't limited to the billboard two hundred as little Wayne debuts just, you know, twenty two songs on the billboard hot one hundred including four in the top ten. And for the first time ever. He becomes the first artist to debut a pair of songs in the top five in the same week as Mona. Lisa featuring Kendrick Lamar starts at number two and don't cry featuring XXX tinta's zone bows at number five. Meanwhile, at number one on the hot one hundred maroon five's girls like you featuring Cardi b. holds atop the tally. So yes, all things little Wayne mixture to visit billboard dot com. Slash chart dash beat for more katie's, holding up her hands as I was just gonna say, this is not. Disc to this song at all, but I am really surprised about I. I was pumped at maroon five with girls like you broke through to number one with all the Drake at number one, unstoppable Drake, but third week of top. Like I, I'm really like impressed with its longevity me too. I kind of thought, I think some folks thought that little Wayne was going to debut at number one. I think the radio on maroon five side unstoppable kept it just a bit ahead lanes streams. Yeah. So yeah, but congratulations. Adam into Cardi into the whole group. Yeah, I'm I'm pretty sure it's third week. I know. You're right. I am. Yeah, you good. Katie actually knows about looked Gary's article. I left that out. I had written down on, like, you know, I'm not positive right now. So let's just avoid saying that. Well, next it's a busy week in the top ten on the billboard, two hundred. That's five albums Bowie in the region, including the entire top four. And one of those albums is shares new Abba covers album dancing Queen. The set starts at number three, tying for shares highest charting solo album. Ever it matches the peak of two thousand thirteen closer to the truth. Further dancing Queen bows one hundred fifty, three thousand units earned of that. Some one hundred and fifty thousand were in album sales at out sales figure is the largest for any pop album by a woman in two thousand eighteen and it's also shares largest sales week since Nielsen music began. Tracking sales back in nineteen Ninety-one. Go share share. I've you listen to the Katie. I have not. I've only heard the SOS gimme gimme gimme. Yeah, it's it's good. I've said that before I'll say it again. I mean it's a perfect fit. You know, strange that you would have never thought that, but it does. I actually think it is. I don't know something about because I don't know when you think about her biggest most recent hit believe and you think about like what, like a dancefloor filler that was like it's like, Abba, share, da, true. All I was thinking about it. That's why it made sense to cast her in Mamma, Mia, here we go again. Lastly, Paul McCartney who recently topped the billboard, two hundred with his new album and recently hopped on the phone with Keith, yes, but not on the podcast. We're still working on that, Sir. Paul, if you ever want to come back to the podcast or come here for the first time, we will welcome you with open arms. Anyway, as we said, he recently topped the billboard two hundred with his new album Egypt station, and he's back in the top ten of the adult contemporary songs airplay chart for the first time in over twenty five years. The new album single come onto me rises. Thirteen to ten this week on the chart. McCartney hasn't been in the top ten of the adult contemporary chart since way back on April third nineteen Ninety-three when hope of deliverance peaked at number nine, his first top ten hit on the adult contemporary chart was another day back in nineteen seventy one. And if you're wondering of course, Paul is part of the Beatles and the Beatles had their first top ten hit. I'm actually the first top. The first hit on the AC chart on the it'll separate chart in nineteen sixty nine with something something I don't think actually peaked in the top ten as I quickly look. Taibbi I'm clicking cloudy. This is really happening. The number seventeen something did their first top ten on the adult. Contemporary try was actually let it be, which went to number one. We'll look at that. So there you go all these legends doing big things in two thousand eighteen. I love it. Yeah, little Wayne as well in Lil Wayne obviously a legend in his own, right. Yeah. I know you kind of wonder at what point you know because we, we sometimes BanDai about those words like the icon, the legend, the making music for twenty years. Right. What point does someone do you start applying like an adjective legend or icon. You know, it's funny because it almost feels like when you say legend, it feels it's like you're taking them out of the contemporary world by saying that, yeah, to an extent, but actually out of an article last week where somebody referred to themselves as a modern day, Justin Timberlake sort of bummed me out because it in my mind, he just a modern day. See what I what I say legend. I use it to just sort of try to distinguish them as someone who has been like sort of consistent chart chart maker chart newsmaker a hitmaker for decades. I guess that's the thing is is is two decades. The amount that gives you legend status. I, it's weird. I don't know. Like it's like are beyond has been making music since the late nineties as well. I feel like I don't know. It's like if it was like, let's say, if it was two thousand four, would we referring to Madonna as legend yet? Mike, I dunno shave though that was like twenty years after like a virgin. Oh, man. But like would you or or or for sure, like an eighty four which you've called the Beatles legends, right? And people were stranded calling Madonna legend, the late nineties. I feel like I might have been in yet. She was still making, you know, one hundred points, two points to ponder kids. My goodness we. Yeah, that was a real tangent nowadays. Scripts. Well, if you don't want to call this person, the legend right now, she certainly will legend in the making. We have an all Taylor swift. A headline addition here because it is the swift casts. When I was looking at our top stories on billboard dot com. The three biggest stories were all about Taylor swift. So I thought, let's talk about Taylor swift today. So starting off with Taylor's too big performances over the weekend. She had back to back nights in the Arlington, Texas, AT, and t. stadium. It's the Dallas area, massive venue, and she was there Friday and Saturday night sulfur night. One. She actually brought out hometown girl mayor and Morris from Arlington to perform the middle, her massive pop crossover hit with Zad and gray and Taylor, Mary both saying on the chorus, but as mostly showcase for the country stars vocals as she played eighteen stadium, which is the first time she's ever played there. So she told Taylor on her Instagram stories that Israel real bucket list moment for the pair traded sweet messages on social media with Erin tweeting ruder than country, nineties babies, genre, bending, unapologetic, I look. Up a whole lot to how Taylor's left has made a career. And I hope to someday achieve even a percent of what she's so gracefully cultivated. And then she's saying directly to Taylor, you know, no boundaries. And that's what music should be about Taylor. Meanwhile wrote on Instagram, vocals, Merrin in all castes Mariners from Arlington, Texas, and judging from the deafening screeches of joy for the crowd, they are proud of her. So so grateful. This happened. I was so happy. I was really just bopping like an eight year, old alone in my room. So that was very sweet. And then Taylor brought out yet another special guests for Saturday night night to. I was gonna say it was the same show. She played two nights, yes. So next up swift teamed up with a little. I just had little big town that is now who she teamed up with it all know that would be Sugarland with Sugarland for nights. You, sorry, sir, land. Goodness. They saying babe, which Taylor wrote and features on and was a top ten hot country songs hit for the group. Also the rare example of Taylor taking a featured role on a song like as opposed like she did. All right. A song for big town obviously, but she was not featured on it. No. I mean, she wrote it. I mean, I don't know for vocals or anywhere on it, but this also not featured on this is what you came for, which she also wrote and also her vocals are buried in there somewhere somewhere in there according to Calvin, Harris rain, like like in the in the chorus when Ranasinghe. Oh, it's just like a collection. It's it's somehow like their distorted vocals somehow. Anyway, so Sugarland featuring Taylor's James on that. A couple of times she was featured on Tim mcgraw's highway. Don't care, don't care. And then a million years ago there on mayor half of my heart. Oh, that wasn't a cycle that, yeah. Oh, okay. We'll find it doesn't happen that often though, but she had never performed babe with Sugarland before she had never performed it. I think period she said, I night babe live for the first time tonight in Dallas. Oh, this was so much fun. She said, you can go to Taylor's in Ceram to nice video chunks of both of these performances if you'd like. But really the biggest headline of the weekend, four Taylor swift after a career of staying pretty quiet on all political issues. Swift assigned to break her silence on Sunday with a single Instagram caption in an in pretty significant way. Yes. So she posted a lengthy letter to Instagram, urging her followers to vote. After educating themselves on the political candidates running in their states in her post with outlined her personal values and pledged to vote for candidates based on their commitment to practicing basic human rights for all, regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation. She also very clearly did not care for Republican Tennessee Representative and congress candidate. Marsha Blackburn who's voting record quotes appalls and terrifies her Switzer real that she'll be voting for Democrats. Phil Bredesen's for Senate and Jim Cooper for the house of representatives in Tennessee, and she began the post with. I'm writing this post about the upcoming midterm elections on November six in which I'll be voting in the state of Tennessee. In the past, I've been reluctant to publicly voice my political opinions up due to several events in my life in the world and the past two years. I feel very differently about that now. Yeah, I don't think because she has been one of those in case you were going to ask me what I thought, yes, keys. What do you think about this? I, I saw this news. Break when I was in the lift coming home from the airport yesterday, and I was trying to think will. 'cause when if ever has Taylor actually explicitly said, given any sort of endorsement and I maybe a million years ago, but certainly for the Clinton versus Trump presidential election. I think the only thing she did was like maybe share a Instagram thing, just the voting booth like saying, like I voted but didn't say who to vote for. What did vote forward learn the issues? I don't think she's she's never endorsed a specific candidates this early since she's been a superstar. No, and she's always been kind of like everyone has said, why hasn't Taylor said something to someone so influential so huge, especially woman who came from country music, who is as global pop superstar. Why are you're not using your platform for this? And as she says, she's been reluctant. I mean, there's so many things to say about this because it's like I, I'm of the opinion that musician of an artist in any way. Way does not allow us though personal political opinions. I understand the idea of using your platform because it's so influential, but I also recognize that not everybody feels the need to speak publicly about this. Some people are private about their political leadings and views, and that that's their prerogative and so that's in. But a lot of people have taken it into like this various way of Oshii trying to keep the entirety of our audience happy because she came from country, which is, you know, historically conservative. So she's like trying to play both sides by, you know, maybe hanging out with a diverse crowd of people speaking up on t. issues, but not at all letting you know that she's liberal or votes. Democratic, you know, like if she is liberal and votes democrat. Well, now we know she's specifically voting for these two Democrats this in this election, this election, we don't know. But she does say that you know things have happened in the past two years, which would pretty clearly market to the presidential election of Trump and. Entin and in the world and the mass. Yeah. And I think maybe maybe she thinks I should have said something. Maybe it might have made some sort of difference. I don't who knows if it wouldn't have. Was it a coincidence that her endorsement came a day after that, you know, Brad Kavanagh was voted as the next shores that might have just been like, okay, this is the time I need to speak up an actually in the interview that you're about to hear with Duleep. I asked her about her speaking up about LGBT issues. She, she spoke up against a Brazilian candidate for president who his elections on Tuesday the day. This podcast is going live. He has very dark views about LGBT community saying that he would rather his son die than began klom. And so do, uh, spoke up about that. She also spoke up win fans apparently got kicked out of her concert and Shanghai for waving pride flags. And she said, you know, maybe people are going to be like, why am I from? I'm not from Brazil. Why am I getting meddling in their election? But she. He feels she feels that her platform can be used for good in that way. So it's it's a personal decision, but it's it's a pretty landmark thing that Taylor swift specifically speaking up. Now, it's an interesting time because there was a tweet and I'm, I'm going to inaccurately, and I realized you were probably trying to lead into the Duleep interviews college, but there there was some someone said something on lines of this on Twitter basically saying like we are at a time where the luxury of sort of not voicing an opinion or the luxury of just being an entertainer and not using your platform is past. Yeah. And that was obviously coming from perhaps someone who is a liberal who maybe wasn't thrilled with Kavanagh's confirmation for sure on that obviously were not politics, podcasts. If you went if you'd like more of that, feel free to listen to positive America. Ooh, that's great. I love listening to that. I enjoy potsy of America. They, they say friend of the pod, hey, guys, how's it going feel pretty. Eighty calls, but was going to say one of things. There's a comedian named Chris Delia who just posted a thing where he compared a a hat that Melania Trump war to like a cartoon of how mad mad magazine cartoon. So somebody you know, feels the need to comment. You know, stay out of politics, like why everything gotta be political and he's like, why is it political that I'm noting that her hat looks like a cartoon character. He's like, that'd be like if I'm making fun of Hugh Jackman hat and you tell me to stay out of acting, you know, like, why can't I'd say like, I literally feels like you almost can't say anything without people being happy or upset with you, like it's like that polarizing everything has become so incredibly divisive polarizing. And then it's like, might as well jump in the fray because it was going to be anything. Yeah. I mean, and Taylor herself has learned from this where she just if she has one song that could be interpreted about something suddenly like half of the pop world comes after her. If she. Speaks to Konya west on a cellphone that she thought was a private conversation suddenly that will be used against her. So maybe she's just like, you know what? I am. Stuff if everything's going to come back to haunt me than like, let me start living supremely in my truth. And here she is reputation. Yes, theory, her reputations never been worth. So you must like her for her. Let's move on to do elite though. It is time for our Saddam Duleep. I got to catch up with her backstage at the Grammy museum. So disappointed I wasn't there. Keith was unfortunately not there is out of the country. She performed and sat down for a q. and a. at the theater there, and we actually had her on the podcasts back in February of last year before things started really kicking hydro. It was before or self titled debut album was we were there I, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And we talked about how her life has just turned upside down since the release of new rules last summer. We also chatted about her new music which he's working on. Now, her song electricity with silk city, aka Mark Ronson in diplo and the songs amazing video why she thinks it's important to speak up for her algebra fans as we were mentioning. And since we're at the museum, we had to talk about all the Grammy buzz around her and her album coming up into this year show. So let's take a listen to our interview with do a leap. So. Polo to do a leap on while pop shop, podcasts so much for having me by, oh yeah, we actually talked to you in February twenty seventeen. So it was more than a year and a half ago crazy. And you know, I can't even begin to listen like list what you've done since then, and I'm sure you might not even go all of the things you've done since then. But most importantly, you put out your debut self titled album and last summer. And can you just try to put into words like what it's been like sense putting that album out. Honestly, every single day I've done something different and I've never spent more than a couple of days in one place and it's kind of exceeded my expectations. You know, everything that I've wanted to do is really kind of. You know, I, it's, it's given me the opportunity to tour over the well to experience different crowds to go around the world at least three times doing what I love and performing in getting to kind of change the production of my life show. And you know what would so many different autism perform at differ on different TV shows and things that I, I never even imagine doing like performing like the UEFA Champions League in like a stadium for the football fans. Never. I think I'd get the chance to to do that where I didn't even know that that was opposed to -bility it's it's already just super exciting. And yeah, it's really fun and obviously new rules which you released in July last year has been a life changing song for Yale. It was. It was the first top ten single on the billboard hot one hundred for you. But one of the coolest things about it is like how it just kept building and building and building because it actually broke the record for the most weeks spent on our pop songs, radio, airplay charts. Spending forty five weeks. The SARS. Yeah. So you did that. What is it like to have a song that that is that huge on radio? Like were you hearing it everywhere, still? Do you still? Yeah, I ju- I do quite a lot, but it was when you're traveling so much. It always does take you by surprise when you're in. You know, when you're so far away from home, which is London for me to hear you a song on the radio when you're in the middle of Asia, it was does take you by surprise, but it's very exciting that song giving me so many opportunities and it's kind of, you know, has really changed the whole game for me and has given me the opportunity to to play around with lots more different songs in, you know, more videos and kind of. Yeah, it's this whole kind of process has been a low of growing demand. I feel like I've grown autism as a person in my confidence has grown. I've grown close to my fans, and I've just kind of learn a lot lot more about the this whole weld. And what does it been like seeing that fan base just grow and grow and grow, like how do you manage to kind of like stay connected to all these people as you gain more and more fans? Well, I'm sorry, lucky because you know when I when I first started, I lots of fans kinda messaging man's. I would follow them and they, they're the people that keep me in touch with so many other fans is everything starts growing. They make all the fans either. You know, the live shows are online and like you should follow this puzzle and then then so I do. And we will kind of create these like private d. m. groups on Twitter, and we just, you know, stay in contact like that. And I, you know, I try and land as much psychot- about them and try to have more of a puzzle relationship to them. And you know, it's also important that you know being able to talk to them whenever I get the oput unity, whether it's just through tweets or whether it's through messages, but whatever way I can. It's really important because that criticism means a lot to man the very honest, and it's always rating nice snow what they like and what they would like to see moral. You know. They always have different ideas of like, oh, you sing this song live, and so you would kind of change up the set because he won't you. You want to give them the best show that you know that they deserve for everything that they've done. They have a lot of imports fund. I, you know, I think it's a very collaborative experience that it's it's one thing you know, I put in all the things that I want. And I, you know, the the production and what I do for the live show. I think it's it's in a all my decisions when you're choosing the songs, you also want to make sure that they they come down and they listen to the ones that they love as well, because there are some fan favorites at sometimes I may be forget that they like, so yeah, but I like to kind of change it up and do it for them. Another fan group that you've been, you know, really connected with is your g BT fans, and you know a couple of times you've had an opportunity to really stand up for them in the last few weeks including talking about, you know, pride flags that you're Shanghai concert and talking. About the Brazilian presidential candidate. Why is it important to you to speak out for those fans? Because well festival I'm I'm very grateful to. I've been given this platform to be able to speak about things that I feel are important who say, you know it, it's these are things that are very close to my heart. I believe very, very, you know, eilly about equality and everybody having the same opportunity in the being a lot more acceptance in the world, and you know, being from London, sometimes you live in your little bubble weather so much divest in the so much acceptance, and you really realize that it's not like that in every other PA, the weld. And so you feel like because you given this platform, you have GT to really speak up and speak out about the things that are important. And I know a low of people, you know that that will was in Brazilian fans with some present people. That would probably quite upset that I had a, you know, mind, say about presenting politics, which I guess to some extent people like, you know, you're not from Brazil. Why you talking about this, but I care. About my funds and I care about, you know, everything that has happened in the world, and I feel all these things that wouldn't have been my personal choice, especially in the political world. I feel like the very important to be able to at least make sure that the people we follow you and support, you know exactly what they're doing. Another important voting and the importance of taking the future into their own hands. And these are just things that I strongly believe in, and I've been given this platform and so I'm going to use it for that and speaking of this platform, it's also giving opportunity to collaborate with some really big artists, and you have a couple of huge dance songs over these past few months, including one kissed with Calvin Harris, of course, and now with security diplo and Mark Ronson with electric city. First of all the video for that song as killer time, how did all that choreography come together and how did you rehearse for that? I mean, you are the star of that show. Thank you that you know, I feel like during this whole process of this whole campaign I've, I've grown. A lot more confident. And I've been, you know, with with every video I feel like I've, I've gotten more used to the way that I move and that I dont and this video it was probably the most confident I felt it was one of those where I was in a room filled with so many people in for once I didn't. Cow, I looked like a what I was doing. Well, how I was dancing. I was just kind of moving and just going crazy. I'm feeling it just for for what it was, and it was. It was just just. Really refreshing to be really do that in freeing. And there was some putts it which was choreographed, but all the jumping and the Danzig was everybody was like, just go for it to do whatever you want. And I think that feeling of of. No holding back and was really important for me to get to experience that because even now when I perform that song live, everything has changed to me, nothing matters every single move. Even if you do something wrong, like you get up and you just dawned on you just have a good time. And that's the most important thing is to not even just take too seriously. I think it really kind of shows in what you do when you start kind of. Caring too much about what people think of won't people might say, because it instantly kind of holds you back from giving you best performance because you're so afraid of will someone might critique you on right? And that's not to say that I've completely let loose and I'm like, go, anybody says, because I am human and there are so many parts of me that obviously, I, you know, being in this industry has a low of eyeballs on you and lots of people with opinions. And yes, it does occasionally get to me, but I think. Because of the way I felt in that music video thought, no one's was can really get to me, will I? I haven't really seen anybody's any mean things that just all the. Does show when you really put yourself out there and you just kind of have fun with it the it does change your mindset even on like maybe somebody's reaction for and we're actually sitting in the Grammy museum right now. And I'm wondering you're about to do performance and have a conversation on the museum stage. Does that kind of have you thinking at all about the buzz surrounding you and your album going into the next year's Grammys? It's it's exciting. It's it makes you feel a bit nervous. It's it's exciting to be, you know, a British artist and to get recognition, you know, all over the world and especially in America to find myself here in the Grammy museum, which is a little bit surreal. And you know also, you know. I just be on it to be nominated, but also to to be, you know. To be a the representation of women moso in the in the nominations and to be part of the change to see, you know. Kind of maybe this year and years moving Fulla to see more females being given the opportunity to really shine through because as amazing as it would be to to go home with an award, it's also about showing up and you know, being for other artists and being pod like the representation, not just for women, bef- diva's, Steve, everything that's kind of happening. You just wanna see a lot more that being shown. And I think it's so say quite good that the Grammies have also gone from like five nominations to eight, which gives a much wider range of autism being given a chance in an opportunity. And it also gives, you know. Newer and younger autism hope as well that you, you can also have the opportunity to be recognized for all the hard work you've put in because as autism, don't always do it. You know the the awards in the. Remember the what? The accolades, but it's a nice part of it. It's a lovely PA, and it's, you know, it does make you feel good for the recognition. So yeah, it'd be nice. And finally, you know, obviously this album is still doing huge things for you, but are you already thinking about the next album lately? Have you actually been recorded and everything? I have. I've been rising quite a bit and I feel good about it feels like a good step into new territory. It's still pulp because I feel like that, you know, that's what I love, and that's what I do, and I find my like home the, but it's different. Sounds and has some like nostalgic feels and just a bit, I don't know, maybe experimental. So yeah, see, I'm excited about that feels like a perfect TS and a perfect leave off on. Hopefully it won't be another year and a half 'til I talk to you, but thank you so much. With everything. I'd love to see sue. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much to do offer taking the time to sit down with me. You know, we've been wanting to have her on a gun, so it was just so great to finally chat. And when we talk next time, Keith, we'll be there. Yeah, and I was so it you can hear the mournful nece in my voice. Now on the flip side, I did. I get. I had a video moment with her at the billboard music wars. I n k have spoken with. I have spoken with her, but this is different. This was a sit down podcast, but you know, that's what happens like we had her on the show before she became like this big, huge star, and she came to our office here. We had Ashley a leisurely conversation with her. She remembered allegedly remember much with me, but also I had just seen her the week prior. She performed on the daytime stage for iheart festival in Las Vegas, and I literally was standing in the Tigers pet like underneath her performance and I'm like, do your, we're talking to me or you remember, like me, like I literally was like five feet from her face. Like while she was performing, I was like, well, maybe you remember the weird girl, the tiger for whatever the case. She was very sweet and lovely to speak with everything. Just turns into a blurred, like, do you. Do you do any of these artists really remember anyone like, you know, really people are so good at that. Like they talk about politicians who like never forget a face. And that's like one of the reasons are so good at being politicians. I can imagine being, you know, an a list star to certain kind of yet, like know you yet. It's a skill that you have and I feel like some people legitimately have a just a knack for faces or names or details, and some have great publicists and dense likely them information before they start talking. It's like you've talked to this person before her name is katie's like, hey, Katie, nicest COO again, it's like, when did I see you last? I don't get into specific. Let's not. Let's not quiz me. All right. Well, now it's time for the chart. Stat of the week of never seen a diamond. Clump mud. She thown wedding ring in the movie and I'm not proud of my five years ago this week, just five years ago. We're not going. We're not going that far back in time. Normally I'm doing forty two years ago. Thirty nine five years ago this week, Lord hit number one on the hot one hundred with royals. The track climbed three to one on the list dated October twelfth, two thousand thirteen, and spent nine weeks atop the tally. It was her first of so far. Eight hits on the hot one hundred which also includes another top ten hit team from two thousand fourteen royals would go on to win a pair of Grammy awards for best pop solo performance as well as song of the year Lord. Most recently hit the charts with her two thousand seventeen album melodrama and scored a top forty hit on the hot one hundred with its leadoff single. Green light melodrama would secure the singer songwriter her first number one album on the billboard, two hundred and also Naby Grammy award nomination for album of the year. So they are had it there. You have it there. You have it five years ago, Lord, what's on top of the hot one hundred with royals. We created different kind above. Let me be. Yoki. Any partying words? Actually, we, we didn't talk about Grammy at all. And I'm kind of curious, like, do you have any like some forecast for he might think be nominated for best new artist? You know, I think Duleep is a pretty a pretty fair shot. I think so too. Honestly, Ella may-maybe the fact that, yes, the fact that do a not only broke through in such a big way this past year, but also that her breakthrough single new rules has such like a like a cool like female power -ment message, and you could easily be like a song of the year, a record of the your nominee so tale, honestly, but when we spoke about it in the interview as well, so everyone's just heard it, but she went, she really turned her the conversation about Grammys to like, I hope women are like, he's like, I hear you. I hope I hope I'm one of many women that are honored well, considering, you know, the flack that happened at the Grammy awards. This year with the woman. We just talked about Lord where you know she was the one and only album of the year nominee that didn't get a performance slot on the show. Yup. And I think the only category that anyone that any woman one that was presented on the air was what lessee car was that its? Yes. You went basket artists? Yeah, there was a lot of and then the whole Newport NAR thing. Lou boy? Yeah, exactly. So do a smartly as like this narrative is not about me. It's about ladies this year while I'm sure we'll talk more and more about the Grammys in the coming weeks on Noman. What do we go out on today? Talked about so much. I know I don't know many, many options. Maybe Taylor, swift delegates, central such a delicate situation. She's jumped into turns next time by.

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Slash sixty minutes, rain shield approval, only valid on certain thirty year purchase transactions. Additional conditions or exclusions may apply based on Quicken Loans. Data and comparisons of public data records equal housing lender licensed in all fifty states MLS consumer access dot org. Number thirty thirty. I believe he was going to rape me. I'm gonna sent. There's a moment in the hearing in which Senator flake walks by essentially taps on your shoulder and the two of you walk out follow Jeff into the ante room. And he said, this is tearing our country apart. We have to do something, but that's my position. I Senator flake. You've announced that you're not running for reelection and I wonder, could you have done this if you were running? No, no, not a chat tonight. The two senators who struck the deal. Tell the story of an unexpected compromise. Last year more Americans died of drug overdoses than in the entire Vietnam war who is responsible for the opioid epidemic affecting almost every community big pharma or the doctors prescribing the pills tonight, an investigation into both beginning with this doctor, we found in a state prison. I see myself if a healer doctor you prescribe a thousand opioid pills to a pregnant woman. I would like to stop. Else's say, good. Have you ever wondered what it would be like to meet Paul McCartney and talk about the Beatles. Well, so of we. Outside Abbey Road after we'd made the obvio- crossing pitchman. And I remember talking to Joel about his taxes said to me, you better won't him because he doesn't know what you have this look on your face. Maybe while he's look, I've the, I need to talk to you about your taxes. Look. I'm Steve Kroft. I'm Leslie stall on Scott Pelley. I'm Anderson Cooper. I'm Sharon Fonsi. I'm Bill Whitaker. 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Millions of Americans couldn't turn away from political spectacle. That no one wanted to see last week. The United States Senate was riven by fury over the supreme court nomination of Brett Cavanaugh in the hearing room. Two great forces dominating our society collided the metoo movement against sexual harassment and violence, and hyper partisan politics, Friday as the Senate descended into chaos. One Republican and one democrat found a way forward with an old technique that seemed long forgotten compromise tonight in their first interview. Since the vote, those senators, Republican, Jeff flake of Arizona and democrat, Chris coons of Delaware sit down with us. It was Republican flake who forced his party to accept a one week FBI investigation into the assault allegations against judge Cavanaugh. I don't think anybody expected. You know what happened on Friday to happen. And I can't say that I did either. I just knew that we couldn't move forward that I couldn't move forward without hitting the pause button because what I was saying, experiencing an elevator and watching it in committee and just thinking this is ripping our country apart. What are you doing? What happened in the elevator. People out very strongly about the airings and what was going on. Somewhat, who actually a woman to sit in this report did not total flake had just announced that he would vote for camping all the people who felt so strongly were activists. Anna, Maria are Chula and Maria Gallagher told flake. They were survivors of sexual assault. Clearly passionate and. Determined that I hear them. I believed he was going to rape me. I tried to yell for help what the Senate Judiciary committee heard Thursday, offended, capitals nomination. This is what terrified me the most and this had the most lasting impact on my life. It was hard for me to breathe, and I thought that Brett was accidentally going to kill me. Dr. Christine Blasi Ford testified that cavenaugh sexually assaulted her when they were in highschool. With what degree of certainty do you believe breath, Kevin assaulted you? One hundred percent democrat, Chris, coons and Republican, Jeff flake. Listened from opposite ends of the day ass- separated by party, but in truth, they were much closer. They had struck up a friendship over the years. That bridge mere politics as you're sitting there listening to Dr Ford. What are you. Hearing what he thinking. I'm hearing a a very smart anguished person who did not want to be testifying in front of us in. Meanwhile, my phone is just blowing up. It was stunning. The number of people I heard from during the hearing that that it was it was almost hard to know which to listen to more because the things coming in were so striking, and they were saying, what. You've known me. Very long time, and I was raped as a child, and I've never told anyone before right now and I'm sharing it with you. There's a nother stream of testimony coming into you at the same time in in the case of the folks. I'm referring to powerful testimony from people. I know and trust who had never shared these stories with me before it was just that palpable feeling of this is this is history and she was compelling, just extremely compelling. Everybody said that on both sides you did or did not believe or well, I mean, how could you not? She certainly believes she certainly experienced something wasn't Brett cabinet. He says, I'm sure she experienced something, but it wasn't me this whole two week effort has been a calculated, an orchestrated political, hit revenge on behalf of the Clintons and millions of dollars in. Money from outside left wing opposition groups. I'd like to ask both of you what you made judge Kavanagh's very emotional response and what it may or may not say about his judicial temperament. Does this man belong on the supreme court? Eight. He had exchanges with Senator Feinstein, Senator closure with others that I thought went over line. He was clearly belligerent, aggressive angry, made you wonder about his suitability in my case, yes, but Senator flake, you identified whether you understood it seeing partisan, but. But boy have to put myself in that spot and you can. You can understand why he was angry and. You know, I think you give a little leeway there when judge capital came out swinging. What was that moment like for you? Did you hear committees? Democrats include Sheldon Whitehouse, Rhode Island and maisy Hirono of Hawaii. One of the most standing things said, judge Kavanagh did was to blame the Democrats for some kind of a conspiracy that went on that we have been plotting all of this, although thank goodness said he acknowledged that Dr four was not a part of that conspiracy that she had no political motive. And I, it was really quite astonishing how the tone of the room changed. When judge Cavanaugh came out explosively confronting this confirmation processes become a national disgrace which you wanna do is destroy this guy's life. And then Lindsey, Graham burst out. You said that and just went on his own explosive statement. This is going to destroy the ability of good people to come. Forward because this crap, we're not just entirely logical people. There are animal spirits in humans, and that's true in senators. This man is not a monster. And so when somebody goes into the breach in full battle mode, if they're not making a fool of themselves, it's a rallying point. And I think you thought that happened in the room to Republican colleagues then rallied the Republicans, if you vote, no, you're legitimizing the most despicable thing. I have seen in my time in politics. The committee's Republican majority includes Lindsey, Graham of South Carolina and John Kennedy of Louisiana. She said it was red cabin, all one hundred percents she did and I and I believe she is sincere. Nobody is going to ever figure out what happened there. Not something happened to her and something very, very bad happened to her. And I'm very, very sorry. But they both said. One hundred percent. She said it happened Judge Kevin also that didn't one hundred percent. So what do you do Senator Graham worries that the senate's constitutional role of advice and consent is no longer about the nominee. It's about the careers of the senators. The politics of boating brain cart. Nominees are now that you not about the nominee is not about the law is about how does it affect you? And you can't blame the Democratic Party for that. Both of us guide here and I don't know if we'll ever get out, but I do not. I don't want to go where we're headed democrat, Chris coons. So all the testimony wearing on his friend, Republican, Jeff, flake and hope to convince his colleague to compromise on Cavanaugh. I was outside the hearing room probably about the same time. He was having that conversation in the elevator and reporter showed me Jeff announced he was going to vote for Kevin. I was very upset. I mean hugely distraught by that because I, I was still hoping there might be some moment here and I just might flakes announced supportive capital coons tried to offer a compromise the week, long investigation to be led by the FBI and I have conveyed to my friends and colleagues that I had wished we would take a one week pause one week only when you were making that compromise proposal, you were lobbying your friend, Senator flake. You didn't expect to change. The minds of other Republicans, you were trying to change one mind. I was principally concerned about helping my friend, listen to his doubts and his conscience changing one mind was enough because with the Senate divided so narrowly, the Republicans could hardly afford to lose flake and I, I can't tell you how grateful I am. Jeff's the hero here. He's the person who. Wanted a moment just to just to go over what are the legitimate concerns and grievances by Republicans on the committee about the process and the complaints and how we got here the dynamic after democratic Senator coons floated his compromise Republican, Jeff flake stood up and walked from the Republican side of the day to the democratic Senator coons. There's a moment in the hearing in which Senator flake walks by the sensually taps on your shoulder and the two of you walk out what happened when you walked out of the following Jeff into the anti room, and he said, very intently. This is tearing our country apart. We have to do something. Eventually, we literally had the whole the whole committee crammed into this tiny little hallway, and my recollection was Jeff one point says, okay, I wanna talk to Chris and we went into nearly a phone booth. That was this big reliving phone booth that we can barely fit in talking to another Senator. And there's this whole committee right outside. It was really. Looking in. On the phone booth. Wondering what's going on literally quite a. Quite a moment. Senator flake, you've announced that you're not running for reelection and I wonder, could you have done this if you were running. Not a chant, not a chance now because politics has become too sharp too partisan. There's no value to reaching across the aisle. There's no currency for that anymore. There's no incentive. The Senate Judiciary committee says the f. b. i. will look into current and credible allegations. One witness who did not appear before the committee is Kavanagh's teenage friend, Mark judge who Ford said was in the room during the alleged assault. And he has indicated parallel that he's ready to cooperate. But what he said in his letter to the committee wasn't he couldn't remember if the I investigation last questions that maybe we'll prompt things or there's, I think Dr Ford mentioned there was somebody that she couldn't remember the name of it's possible that one of the other interviews say, well, no, this was a name and it will lead to additional interviews that can be taken places. Well, Friday, the judiciary committee passed Kavanagh's nomination to the full Senate in a week. The FBI investigation is expected to be given to all one hundred senators and vote is likely to be scheduled soon after what are the. Chances that we are going to be in exactly the same place a week from now. That was a chance. And we knew that and some of our colleagues said that we'll be back here one week from now. It'll be worse. They'll be other outrageous allegations that come forward. The FBI will talk to people that won't wanna talk anymore. We won't be any better off. There is a chance that will happen. I do think that we can make progress. I think we'll be in a different place because lots of survivors around the country will feel that Dr Ford story was heard and respected and further investigated. We may well be in a different place that week from now because judge Cavin on his family may well have had exculpatory evidence brought forward if judge Cavanaugh is shown to have lied to the committee nominations over. Oh yes, I think so. In the annals of sixty minutes. We have rarely come across a doctor like Florida physician berry Scholtz prosecutors, say he wantonly prescribed and sold massive quantities of highly addictive. Opioids in July Schultz was sentenced to one hundred fifty seven years for his role in fueling the most devastating public health crisis of the twenty first century last year, more Americans died of drug overdoses than in the entire Vietnam war while Scholtz ended up in jail, melon crop. The pharmaceutical company that flooded Florida with hundreds of millions of oxycodone pills paid a relatively small penalty. The question now being debated in congress and in federal court is who is responsible for the opioid epidemic. The doctors who prescribed the pills or the opioid. Manufacturers and distributors who supplied them. Dr. Barry Schultz is an inmate at Florida state prison where he will likely be incarcerated until the day he dies in. This is only interview Schultz said he wanted to go on camera to explain that he has been singled out unfairly. I'm a scapegoat, your scapegoat. I mean, I was one of hundreds of doctors that were prescribing medication for chronic pain. The prosecutor called you killer. I see myself as a healer in my mind, what I was doing was legitimate in the early two thousand Scholtz was applying year on the wild West Frontier of paying treatment doctors, drug dealers, opioid users, and abusers were flocking to Florida or powerful pain pills were being prescribed and dispensed by a new type of business pain clinics. We had more pain clinics and years, twenty ten and twenty eleven. Then we had McDonalds in though. Those years. There was one St. in Broward County Oakland park boulevard that had thirty one different paint clinics on the one St., Florida state attorney. Dave Arron bergh's office prosecuted berry Schultz, he told us pain clinics were loosely, regulated medical offices where patients could pick up pills usually for cash. Few questions asked you could get the prescription and get the drug right there on the spot. One stop shopping. People would race down to Florida because we didn't have the same controls. As other states, we fed the entire nations addiction. This mob scene shot on a cell phone in two thousand nine is inside a Florida pain clinic. Dozens of patients waiting to get their opioids Schulz operated a clinic like this in Delray Beach where he treated thousands of patients. How would you describe. Dr. Barry Schultz. He was one of the most notorious drug dealers. We had he prescribed in agreed amount of pills to his patients, the numbers which shocked the conscience. The records show in two thousand ten one patient of Dr. Scholtz was prescribed nearly seventeen thousand of the highest potency oxycodone pills in a seven month period. Another got more than twenty three thousand over eight months. That's more than one hundred pills a day business was so good Schultz was making more than six thousand dollars a day prescribing and selling opioids to his patients. The numbers of pills you're prescribing are astronomical. Who takes that many pills and puts them into their body. What were you thinking? I was thinking that the patients was genuine patient who had real chronic pain who's complaints, religion it, and that I was prescribing medication that they needed doctor, you prescribe a thousand opioid pills to a pregnant woman. I don't think most doctors would prescribe a thousand aspirins a pregnant woman. I would like to stop. Just like you to explain your your thinking. As expected. We. I believe it's unfair. What? What is it? What is unfair doctor, I'm just uncomfortable with with these these charged questions. These are questions that people have. This is why are sitting here wearing this jumpsuit this ultimately he agreed to continue. He claims some of his patients needed extremely high doses of opioids for long periods of time to alleviate severe persistent pain. And what I started treating people with chronic non cancer pain, I felt it was unethical and discriminatory to limit the dose of medication. And if I had known that the overdose incidents had increased dramatically, the way it had, I would have moderated my doctor. How could you have not known? All you had to do is pick up the paper in two thousand nine more than twenty. Nine hundred people died in Florida of drug over. Doses mostly from prescribed opioid pills. In one sixteen month period, DA records show Barry Schultz, dispense eight hundred thousand opioid pills from his office. Pharmacy. People have become addicted to these drugs. People have died because of these drugs people in your practice died from overdoses of opioids, a person. One is enough that wants to end in my son. Carol, teen son. David went to Dr Schultz for pain management after a car accident Schultz prescribed an assortment of pain pills. Even after David became addicted in two thousand ten, David died of an overdose of opioids prescribed by Dr Scholtz. So should Dr Scholtz of prescribed these pain pills too. He didn't even examine him, hey, hadn't seen him in four nephews. He just. Just wrote wrote up these scripts. As far as I'm concerned, he's a murder and in not a doctor, he murdered my son has h could eat, didn't need a gun. He used his pen to Myrna, my son. Schulz says he was inspired to prescribe high doses of opioids after attending a lecture by this man, Dr Russell Portnoy who was the influential president of the American pain society Portnoy traveled around the country, giving lectures and made promotional videos like this one in two thousand touting opiates. As wonder, drugs urging doctors to use them aggressively to relieve pain. The likelihood that the treatment of pain using it opioid drug which is prescribed by doctor will lead to addiction is extremely low. But ten years later as opioid addiction exploded Dr Portnoy said he had been part of a broad campaign funded by pharmaceutical companies to encourage the widespread use of opioids. I gave innumerable lectures in the late nineteen. Eighty s and nineteen ninety s which I said things about addiction that were in true. He said, he believed at the time he was off. Rating in good faith and was not unduly influenced by the former suitable industry. Still. He has been named in dozens of lawsuits, don't to Russell Portnoy. He was paid by the drug companies. And has said that there is no proof that these that high doses of opioids are effective, intriguing, chronic pain. That may be true, but there's true. So there's no science to backup which you were doing. There's there's only anecdotal information. I guess what I find troubling is. Your lack of acceptance that what you did was wrong. I don't believe it was wrong. When you're giving somebody sixty oxycodones a day, how could they not abuse it? Sixty day is a large number. I admit a very large if it's taken properly. How can you take sixty Oxy quote on a day properly. Some people need that deaths. There is no scientific evidence to support that claim with so many opioids prescribed by Schultz and other unscrupulous doctors pills started flowing into the streets and resold for profit what the DA calls diversion sixty, six percent of all the oxycodone in Florida came from just one company Mellon Qrat. One of the country's largest opioid suppliers, Florida state attorney. Aaron bird told us between two thousand eight and twenty twelve. The company flooded the state with pain pills. Ballot crime sent five hundred million oxycodones pills to the state of Florida of state with a population of twenty million people. We're talking about enough pills to give every reson Florida twenty-five oxycodone pills. How's that possible? I mean, you're talking about enough pills to create entire state of addicts, internal Justice department documents obtained by sixty minutes. Reveal that quote, Mellon Crotts own Dato on berry Scholtz indicated that he was purchasing large amounts of oxycodone in a suspicious pattern indicating diversion yet. The company kept shipping the drugs to the distributor. It new was supplying Schultz. The company's behavior was so flagrant. It triggered a DA investigation led by Jim revolves sqi. So what role does melon crop play in this opioid crisis? They're responsible. They are responsible. Especially for the conduct in Florida. That's a big statement. How can you not be responsible? How can you walk away from five hundred million pills to geographic area like the size of Florida, e and knowing at the time, this was occurring there, opioid crisis there that wasn't a secret reform. Now, an expert witness for states, municipalities suing drug companies told us his team identified almost forty, four thousand orders. Mallon crotch should have reported as suspicious which the government says the company is required to do by law revolves. He says, melon, Qrat reported none. But when DA investigators handed their evidence to the Justice department, government lawyers, fearing a long, uncertain legal battle decided not to pursue the case in court, but to settle instead if you'd have gone after. Melon crop for everything you saw them doing. What would find have been two point? Four billion dollars and the actual fine was thirty five million. The penalty amounted to less than one week of the company's annual revenue Mellon fraught declined to do an on camera interview, but told us it never sold oxycodones directly to doctor sholls, only two distributors in a press release. The company denied it, violated any applicable laws, but said going forward, it would analyze all internal data and identify suspicious sales. Both Trump and Obama administrations have sent hundreds of doctors to jail for their roles in the opioid crisis so far, not one executive of an opioid manufacturer or distributor has been sentenced to a single day in jail now called order. But now the pharmaceutical industry is coming under scrutiny in may a congressional committee called the heads of the five leading drug distributors, the middlemen that shit. The pain pills from manufacturers like melon crop to drugstores around the country, Mississippi congressman Gregg Harper asked if they were complicit in causing the drug crisis, you believe that the actions that you or your company took contributed to the opioid epidemic? Mr. Barrot. Sorry, do not believe that we contributed to the opioid crisis Dr dandruff. Yes. Only one of the five said, yes. Now this house committee has launched an investigation into Mellon, Qrat and other drug manufacturers. The Justice department has formed a task force targeting opioid manufacturers and distributors. Fifty counts of drug trafficking as for Barry Schultz shortly after our interview, he received a final sentence. One hundred fifty seven years. The longest sentence of anyone so far in this opioid crisis. How is it that we enter the fifty first season of sixty minutes and are only now profiling the most successful musician and composer in popular music history. Maybe it's because it's nearly impossible to try and find something new or surprising to talk to, Sir Paul McCartney about how do you just a new memory from a beetle who over the decades may be the most written about person on the planet. Well, as the Beatles white album is about to turn fifty years old. We decided to go for it. Mr. Macartney was funny and reflective as we used rare photos and film to walk him through some very personal Beatles stories in wondered who at the age of seventy six. He is still trying to impress. Let's start with a bit of a revelation. The man who has sold an estimated billion records, and maybe rock enrolls best bass player can't write or read music. Verison true. I don't read music or write music. None of us did in the Beatles. We did some good stuff though, but none of it was written down by us. It's basically notation that's the bid icon to because I don't see music like I don't. That's interesting. You know, I think that I don't see music as dots on the page. It's something in my head that goes on. From his first countdown on their first song of their first album that something has translated globally and across generations. Today, McCartney is still seeing using in his head heavy feel about this one Umbro Alexis will. This one McCartney's latest album, Egypt station, just debuted at number one. When you are writing resource, you're trying to impress. Every. I suppose order. Lot is an impulsive low to you. Right? But doesn't stop me trying, but don't people always say, I love Paul. You're wonderful. Son is okay, appreciable hazard. We spent two days with mce as friends have called him since Liverpool. Touring his relic filled recording studio on the south English coast. This. And this is the firemen Russia's in. And we were surprised to find Paul McCartney at seventy six seems to feel the same need to prove himself as he did when he was a teenager. I think people worry about things and it doesn't matter how elevated you get or you reputation guests is to worry about this. I mean. What else do you have to prove people say about me on really wants to be liked, doesn't everyone do you worry more now than you used to those? Just who I am. Maybe, you know three instance when we done now famous with the Beatles on, we had done revolver the hose and. I got Horace wounded. I thought it was attitude. I thought the whole album was out of jail. I listened to some reason. I went to the is. I don't know what we're gonna. Do you know. Are over worried, listen to this is no, it isn't. Okay. We will with McCartney as he prepared to tour warming up with some surprise shows, including this one at Liverpool's cavern club. The Beatles played this club almost three hundred times and McCartney's fans know every word to, hey, Jude, yesterday and band on the run. We were surprised didn't. On doing shows. I listen to a lot of music music wings music to see what ones we're going to do and to lend them what do you mean forgotten? Yeah, really too many too many woods too many notes. They're very hard. I mean, it's not like they're all three rules. McCartney is at least a co, author of lock enrolls constitution. Credited with the stunning twenty nine number one hits. Cardi's work has been covered by icons from almost every musical genre. John Lennon, and Paul McCartney became songwriting partners as teenagers. One of throated lyrical Rockin roller the other, a musical Polly, Matt with a gift for melody and experimentation. Those I flew tone notes on strawberry fields. John Lennon's masterpiece were McCarthy's idea. Jay. We just competitive writing with each other. Did you complement each drove? Yeah, we will competitive, you know, openly, but we we later admitted so pulls written goodwill, none coated, and I would similarly, that's a bit good right here we go. Kumo Peter written stroll refales. I would write penny lane, you know, he's remembering his old area in Liverpool, so I'll remember mine. And when that happened, did you call them in each other once one. In how many years? What's. Revolve here there, and everyone was one of my songs on it. And. Johnson just finishes. Really good song. I was like. Other member to this day, did you ever he preys on him, tell him his stuff was great. You'd normally have to be a little bit drunk. Helped you don't need to be a Beatle fan to appreciate the importance of this part of London, Taurus it rivals Big Ben or trying to catch a glimpse of the Royal grandkids Abbey Road studios where Paul, John, George and Ringo along with producer George Martin began denting pop culture. I generally thirty harmonies. Later by exploring, then defining would news. It could be that, but say the dead. But during ten sessions for what would become the white album. Fifty years ago. The Beatles still only in their twenties, again, breaking apart. Waiting for this moment to variety of this picture? Yeah, this is very special for me this series because after the Beatles broke up, I kind of accused of being the one the procam up on the we always had a terrible relationships. So this always reminds me of how happy we were together. I'm checking some lyrics and it's just great the way Jones that just smiling, obviously, just two nights, you know, taking the pictures was Paul's first wife, the late Linda McCartney her photos from life and photographs are intimate and historic who you are in the studio down to putting finishing touches to the l. and we had another title going on that we didn't really like. So I just said, hey, why don't we just call? I'll be road on what we could do. We just go right outside wall. Across the cross in stone, and it was like, yeah, okay, everyone agreed shoes. I had sandals on, but I just left them over here to the left because he was very hot day is that side Abbey Road after we'd laid the AVI row crossing petulant. And I remember talking to Joel about his taxes, someone said to me, you better won't him because he doesn't know what you have this look on your, maybe why he's gloom, look the. I need to talk to you about your taxes. Look. This. This is in a back garden and Yoko 's in it and CBO the looks on the faces all except John kinda going. Why she in the Beatles, but how happen? How did she was allowed in the photo because they will not only in love and Joan wanted to take her everywhere. I think notable dude, say chill, but we'll fell to. So it was a pill Quattro some listed mitt. It is ni- very favorite. Oh, yeah. Little baby in my jacket now has four children of our own McCartney credits. His love of family and music to his father. Jim who raised Paul after his mother died when he was just fourteen today, the man who wrote mother, nature's son has four grown children of fourteen year old daughter and eight grandchildren. We also showed McCartney what amounted to home video of the Beatles is cold coming out from their last live performance together, tested the roof, the apple rooftop concert in London. Let's say good. Bye. Pretty good. Million dollar business conflicts and creative differences were carrying a lot of weight, but watch them try and hold back smiles as they walked through song, they will as teenage. Thank you. See it here. Twice. Don't be. On the one act. That doesn't look a band about break up that lift between the nose fun. It was when the business krypton and it called a bit sticky. Really that bad. We do. We ended up pitching at each other from a fog. You know. The business part of things worked out pretty well for Mr Macartney he's worth more than a billion dollars, but for the last seven years, he says is good fortune is due to his wife, Nancy, an American who he calls beautiful and real, though he realizes it's probably tricky being married to one of the most famous faces on earth just being recognized by everyone. I mean, don't always need that. I mean, it's difficult thing, you know, because you don't want to be mean to them because they're nice people. They genuinely like you. But you have to draw the line these days. Everyone's got a camera. So so the first thing when I see people. And they don't say anything. We have a picture would do an Icee. I'm sorry. I don't do pictures, but I'm very happy to shake your hand on. We'll have a chat new southeast, who cares. The headline is if you need Paul McCartney, you can have a chat and who doesn't want to have a chat with the Beatles. Listen to one on his new world tour. Where are you most content? When are you most content? I live on a farm in English about twenty minutes from here on for me. It's great because I can be like, oh, stralia playing to forty thousand people two days before now I'm back on the phone, the MoMA hose, going into the woods and it's quiet. Little bit put singing. So that is very nice. I mean, it's a balance. What's the biggest misconception about you. I not really. I don't. I don't hear about the, I don't know what people think about me. I can try guess. Oh, I'll I'll tell you what you must have. No, insecurities, just like anyone else you have insecurities because everyone has an amount of how high and great on one of the you get to still something will make you worry. Just going to go. I'm good. I did it all. I would like to think I could do that, but I think it would be boring and I think I give up trying and I quite like that. I don't think I've done. Could enough yet Najan that Paul McCartney will just let it be. I'm Bill would we'll be back next week with another brand new edition of sixty minutes.

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"This is Dennis Miller option, your source of opinion stories in laughs from comedian and inactivates, Dennis Miller and his guy Friday, Christian Blat. What's up Hiroshi? Let's light, this candle who, ladies and gentlemen, Dennis Miller, and folks, welcome to the Dennis Miller option. I'm your host option. By the way, listen to Paul McCartney song off speed jap- station, his new album. It's not new. It didn't just drop. No, no. The street day was about a year ago. Is that how long ago? Yeah, it's a beautiful album, cover and the song. I don't know complete wipe, but I was texting with Carvey the other night, there's a little drunk. I have drinking some white wife of our Chardonnay who else would you text when you're drunk, except carbon? Texted about something else. Then my buzz kicked him. I know he's used mckearney fan, so I said, have you heard? I don't know by McCartney off Egypt station. He's a no. I haven't I said, I'm listening to it. Now, I'm in tears hero, bag and said, I've called Gavin bekker's people on you stay away from me. No. But I got him listening, the side and I thought, we're both men because I'm sitting here I was sitting in the Albany. What these things are called into my house, but there's a little patio area. And I was the son was hitting me draining around being me. It was just one click shy of cutting up an orange and putting it in my mouth and chasing grandson, that'd be heart attack into the Roma tomatoes. But. Never when I was young, would I've revealed that much to Carvey. But we've grown old together now in love each other. So I was able to seven tears and he wrote back and said, I'm watching her noble. And then you asked him if the church lady could talk dirty to, you know, we were talking about him as the church noble lady, I said, I'd get a new character heater minute, we're search ladies speaks through one of those things you hold up to your karate Arkansas. So she's got the radiation poisoning. That's good. Love to see that. Go ahead. You're on bad him. Throb. I just came on. I didn't mean kinda wanna call. I wanna call him right now. Run with it. But then he'll tell me to lose number. So I don't wanna stay on Christian. Don't lose my. There were only two guys in steely dead. Yes, steely, Dan. No gaining Walters. One of them died and danced. Goes out. Let's is actually. I heard he's jamming now is steel is span while I don't know. I came played piano for steely Dan and calling Warren Spahn. Spawn, then and pray for Raith. I don't know jas way, really. Most of the Chevy Chase show. That's crazy. I watched that show one night, and the yellow fish gave him the finger. Remember he started the first one he had a hand puppet, like send your winces in through. No. So it started us talk show, listen Chevy in. What do I say? I've had talk show shot out from reviews. I don't know that I was great at it. But you didn't get the rate in. He's great in a certain. I mean he's honest to God. He's made me laugh so hard sometimes, but Chevy so funny. He's funny and Caddyshack to, like, that's how funny he manages to be think about how Letterman had to do. Readjustment of his basic self to get along with people out there. Yeah. True. We'll Chevy's like forty five clicks out from. As far as being. Not really embracing humankind. Do you know what I mean? It's right. It's just a funny mixed have, hey, what's the new film of? I can't think of anybody on the planet that I would less assign that then Chevy to go out and act fake interested in somebody's shit project. It didn't do. I think you've told the star before. But when you had the Tribune talk show, didn't like an actress got upset that you hadn't watched your TV show and you were honest about it. I guess you're not supposed to set. I can't. I said, I'd mentioned something else, I loved her, and I said, so certainly, but I can't tell you that I've seen the ship because I just got it Laden. I, I respect you enough that I can't fake that with you, in Christ live it at me. I sent him not long. There's been a couple of jobs in my life, where I thought I'm not long for this football. I actually lasted a second season. But I remember seeing things on football like right away thinking this I don't know if this is gonna work not without alad laugh Zaza, but the critics the next day that point, that's do things that I thought were kind of funnier. We didn't getting them shot through the prism of Rudy mart ski today. Crisis. Rudy more. I didn't work for you yet. I didn't get paid to think that was funny. I enjoyed it. I remember just Georgia whenever anybody he had a the best arm. You remember who's a quarterback he played for the colts for a while. And I definitely remember him in the way that you say that. And I'm like, yeah I definitely remember him playing great. He was like, Jay Cutler amazing arm was never gonna win in that league every other component. He lacked, then he had happy feet, somebody ding Disney early on. When anybody got near as feed. He turned nNcholas pressures. It was like up to watch and. He somebody came in and they almost rolled up on him and he just threw it right into the linebacker sands how he throws a beautiful. Both singing the praises of his arm. And the fact that the allies the next day, I'm reading Miller was stupid comment. How can an interception be pretty, you know, so fucked clear? I never get to go, but I had fun with vino for to you and Faouzi. I love see Fouts. He was always busy because he had diagram these plays enough. But he was a mentioned too. I remember that time I told you sir Tony. So that time, I don't know if I remember I had said something about the Sarah Gusa, there was an incident and camp and training camp where Syracuse absorbed two rookies into his midsection haven't been found. This the shit. I'm trying to sell oh. Oh. On the field and Sarah goose comes running over this is like the next year. I think he dropped out at this. He's retired. Easily that or he's still on the team, and he's not in his Geary because I don't remember main full uniform anyway. As a mother fucker field before the turn around. It's like Tari. I've got this rhino bearing down on me. He chases me in jail for big guy and. You know, he does a couple swim moves on. I'm in his arms. He flips me. Upside down and goes to do that thing that wrestlers do or they bring guys down on their head, but they time it out. You know, but it's a very dangerous thing, jackhammer or something. He doesn't hit my head. He just brings me nineties faking it, but it's it should be fucking around something neck over a line on a joke. And I remember Fawzi came Bolton over and pushed him in the shoulders. Ain't mother fucker, you fucking idiot, leave him alone. I was so proud of felt very cool. And saragousse said that look on his face, like, oh, maybe take this. It's one of those things that you can take a bridge too far and then all of a sudden, I'm driving a van with my tongue. Sorry, the visual. Adapter and I'm doing depictions of. I mean, just to take an aside our friend, Jean Baretta, gene, in Philly over the years. He has done some artwork of things that you'll say on the radio show in the podcast. And they'll say if you could draw dentist driving a car with his tongue because it's to Siragusa burqas neck, just send it to me. Does doesn't do it? For that. Or they've got the adapter on. And I'm doing Surat's, you know. Paintings. Dab dab. How long are we going to do it dab dab dab six day? Dab. 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They do they whack a lot of podcasts after year. Or do we not prog Moammar Noces now that they'll keep it always had a healthy, progress, this, you do really, well, you've got a strong solid base that seems to follow you wherever you go. And we're seeing consistent numbers we're seeing growth. We're seeing that. People are sticking around and Christian put a sedate. Oh, don't indoor haunt. Will mean a alone. She's trying to sell you on the Dennis Miller option. She wants you to subscribe to the podcast. I'll take. I'll take some ad time. You'd think too. Miller's bouncy while we inflate these, they're sorta like snakes you inflate him and you put them in the in the channel next to the bowling lane. And this way, the kids can come in, and they don't get gutter balls, and we grow them into ballers, this all take to a my ads. It's over at my, my. Trampoline center. Miller's trampoline center, we only charge you when you're on the pad on both sides of the four-over charge. You when you're up in the air jingle, if you never come down you don't have to pay. Cory booker. I'm spurious. No. I'm spirits. So Christian feed me, some, sir. Yeah. Well, this is this is the voice mail in reference to somebody who drew your IRA, and this is Randy from Los Angeles, who was on your side on this, MRs solos those faithful in lovely listeners that always calling this is right? Just say. Oh, that's interesting time that was Chad. Who we had last week the new number ten. Okay. Here we go. Let me hear Chad. I didn't I don't remember this. Yeah. No. That was Chad. Remember he came on. And he said, if we can get all of our loyal listeners to bring one friend along. We'll dumble. We'll dumble me remember any of this. Yeah. That was so thrilled. That was just wanted to. Sammy the Nell Dudley. Do right show. Listen, these ropes, the train is coming. Bumming? The one, the one that one that we're looking for is response to sully left to come out. All right. Let's take solely down. This is for your comments. Bleeding through my penis. I on a ledge. The guy came on though. Jab. You're talking about is satisfied to be saved. I loud. Let's hear it again. And Uman balked to. All right. I'll try that. Was just responding to your comments about that solely guy who was on because of your discussion of politics. Your politics are great. I love it. I wish there was more than. Can you give politics jokes about soaring locating and pretty Scott, I live here and crystal floor? Dennis Miller show. So he gets it. Yeah. And you can leave us voicemails. Eight six six five oh nine rant Christ imagine. I felt bad. When I saw that sully committed seppuku on Wednesday. I mean I didn't note saying he wouldn't quit talking politics. I didn't I didn't feel that bad. Restored. Why was Scott? But Sali like a but what's up with sully? What's he doing? So I saw him burger or early sullen burger just fine planes upside down for fun now. I think. I ordered a sullen burger the other day at the habit. It's, it's a burger with no condiments on it that blames Trump for that. Habits a nice burger by the sullen burger the habit. For those of you don't know a burglary run by nuns out here. And if you don't like your hamburger, they wrap your knuckles five times with a ruler. He's, he's not great. But like, you know, for. Yeah. If, if I was like a celebrity Iran's UN ambassador fuck and shirt on pal up in his wall, as very know that funk. Actually, that's, that's his Starfleet uniform. He was he was the convention downstairs got his map of the strip or moves coons handshake anymore. I'm surprised. Curse? Over these out right now. It doesn't look like a mom, but he's, he's no Christ. I, I went out and took the UN tour even the guidebook is spineless for Chris. Fuck Victor Bono types in fezzes beaten parking tickets on the Lower East Side. Get outta here with the UN and Iran specifically late this just in the nation's of Iraq and Iran merged form a new nation Iraq on this. One of the first jokes over till. That was I thought, I honestly felt that was a newer joke. I remember the the first one I Christ I wouldn't, what was my first boop of I joke ever told on state just in imagine that it was a news joke because this years before I got us out. But I just came on stage and I said this just in. A group of militarize couldn't today, overthrew, the government of Ecuador, a major political coup. The. Oh, is there something that interferes with your happiness, or is preventing you from achieving your goals? 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What are we doing today? Well, a little later on. We're going to talk to Bill o'riley, but first, we've got some voicemails we, we got some old. X so shoot whatever you want me. I'm here at your disposal. Right. We we're going to hear a voice now, do you think scratching your back with a sort of this? It's like Giacometti's walking man. But it's a woman in teak, it must have gotten it Africa or something. And her hands are. Like stretched up overhead and her. It's a backscratching. So magin peak woman, thin breast available. They're not clothed in other words. So that's why I think I bought it on my travel somewhere in her hands extended overhead her fingers are curled into, like some sort of little hook that you can scratch your back with. And I'm saying is a good back scratch when you've got a place in the middle your back that you can't get to on your own what, what tops it out for you? As far as a great feeling bat or putting a Q tip like four inches into your head. Why would you stop it for, I'm going to go with the with the back? I you know, the fact that it's something I can't do myself, and I do I do pretty much everything myself believe, but that's one thing I need I need an aide. Let me ask you this. You know, they always talk about yogis and stuff type. That's leave. Before that or not single load, as posing relics, total power downward bear, but the. Site. I don't have that mind over matter, sort of thing happened. I am not. You're a yeller. He can't bend to fork unless it's a plastic explore, but do you ever try to will away in it? You can't get. I have. But it and I am not successfully. Yeah. You can't you not fascinated by the concept, what sets up there on your back. Is it like -cluded fronts or something? I don't quite understand what it is. That causes an issue to happen for a millisecond. It's not obviously clogged bore anything deep. What is the actual Macintoshes behind a all of a sudden, I've got an it's there and I've got the scratch it and I can't get it away. And you know how you can shut your eyes, but you can't shut your ears isn't that funny that you've got qualifiers on your body, and I'm fascinated that you can't like flick that it off with your head to saying? Maybe they should give you ten a year that you can just say, I don't wanna feel that and it goes away, but you can't you've got to scratch it, or are you able to forget it? I'm just wondering how do you deal with it? You can't get out or you just have to find a tree or a Peugeot and rub up against it. I mean I have. Help you know so I ring my doubt. Intense care of my needs. You know, there's your year methods would be good, if I weren't so insanely rich, hey, what's the oddest thing you've ever brushed up against to get rid of a scrat- sent that the Christian? Anybody sends that there? You know, we're going to get like eight of them now because he said that if anybody sends that we're gonna track down, put your loser prison, which is like debtor prison. But with, you know, more mildew. Hey, that is speaking of debt, I have a new story for you. I just wanted to go for, you know you went being over list. Malene during in the desert, like Harry dean Stanton. I'm glad to jump in. What are your thoughts on? Bernie Sanders, not just in general. But specifically he's proposed eliminating all one point six trillion dollars of student debt in the United States. Well, if the people odor amenable to that I'm for it. You know, somebody's owed that, right? Yeah. The, the caller is rich. Right. Why don't you always go after wealthy individuals? Why not go? Why not go out to these businesses and say, I think they'll be a cataclysm. Right. I don't understand all the working parts of the economy. But I think if somebody's owed is it billions, the total number is one point three trillion. I don't quite know where, you know how come he doesn't get paid one point three trillion? I don't know how that exhibits, it self. But I can't imagine it wouldn't be something akin to nineteen twenty nine crash, right? Yeah. I think he wants a solution of personal responsibility completely, which I think is what people on his side are pitching or. Him. Certainly. And ASC is is it's a play for losers which I'm loser prison before. Why does everybody want to get out from under their responsibilities? Why don't they see they can define themselves by answering their responsibilities? Now, if I had to say. I think college is way too much. I think to get a college education for twenty five thousand dollars a year would be nice figure, I think it should hurt a little I think you should have to hustle it a little and then should have to take shit. Were college study job, take some lawns all that stuff. But I do agree that you should be able to get a bachelor's and a pretty good school for one hundred over four years. And right now it's probably closer to fifty three hundred right. I read seems crazy. I think you're fucking kids up on the pad. So you think well, we're Bernie wants to just forgive all that, that, but then to me the next day they start accumulating more debt. Because kids in the future, you gonna say what did you say? They have this whole different put either debt. I'm not even sending this. I check in. So I didn't know where you go from that. It seems like you've blown the whole rubric up and nobody will ever lend anybody money again to go to school. I would say where I would look for the money is in two places. I read that Harvard has over some crazy amount of what do they call dowry? No. That's chicks in seven brides for seven brothers. What are they call down? That's and that's and I think these endowments are start pay parceled out. I really do. And I think anybody who's not teaching at least fifteen credit hours a semester, like the kids, do and the teachers this L it's much harder finish. How many times in a row, can you go up and say plenty of the it was live. We're going to own. We get it. You're not doing anything at some class, you know, they take a year off. There are other times that, you know, they're teaching two classes. Yeah, because they're all professor Kingston. Everybody's wrapped up in what they're saying and. The teachers is anybody who's not teaching fifteen credit hours per semester for two semesters a year should be just pruned. Forget the let them keep their tenure but they just don't keep gig. I think it's crazy. What kids have to pay and I blame this on the econ-, teachers telling him, socialism's, the way to go. Yeah. We'll kick in let, let's step back. So, yeah, I don't want you to be saddled with this data, I'm going to bail out, and we're going to take the endowment and we're gonna stab some no interest loans. And, you know all the that's where I'd start. But naturally, they want to start with. I don't know Trump's bad, the Russians are behind the loans, and nobody gets paid back individual owners and companies don't get paid back. As I said before about Sanders, I think Sanders is brilliant enough to realize that there's a fortune to be made today convincing. Young people. They don't need money to be truly rich and you know, that, that mantra of subsidized self reliance is very savvy play by what would appear to be fucked up old idiot light. Sam Drucker, who witnessed a nuclear test from chase lounge four feet away any, what's next well, they would they would forgive the debt bay taxing financial transactions basically on Wall Street. So there'd be a point five percents. Sorry. Well, I was from the street to sampling. But the question for me, I have paid off my college loans. So would I be entitled to college loan reparations, because if they're going to forgive people currently have that I think I would like to cut of this money think about this stuff, like I always think about have you ever been to McDonald's? And there are times when I'm in McDonalds, where I look at the employee of the month thing, and I'm so touched that I'll see if the person's on not all the time going to suck. Fucking Stewart walking around with an invisible rabbit, but occasionally you'll see the guy working go. But hey, thank you for congratulations. And thank you. And you see some people there who let's just say are not been dealt the best cards by life. You know, some older guys, maybe somebody with a slight learning disability. Or maybe. You just can't use sort of I am not Spiderman. But I can't spite it completely, but there's some people who look young and taking the job to get started, and I admire that and its own why. And then there are other people break your heart more, you think this could not have been there dream, but they're going out and God knows life is about and who gets their dream, like ten people. So the, the fifteen dollar minimum wage for them make sense to me or some sort of vesting wage, I would call it, you know, where they've proven themselves that they're not moving on from the company to a large degree. I, I don't know about all these HR considerations, but I do find it sad. That if somebody is making fifteen dollars an hour after five or seven years of answering the golden arches, call at and all of a sudden, everybody has to make fifteen. Those people go up. And if they don't why are they, you know, all of a sudden making the same, as you know, the local Nimrod twit, who's just in their whining, all the time, you know, at grow go cream the fryolater, but not just pregnant ABBIE Hoffman clean the fryolater. So, you know, it's like the fucking kid who lived in the van and the John cracker thing, you know, he's always talk about how we eat off the pigeons, and the grouse and Beatles. And, and all of a sudden, he'd have to come in and work in Mickey D's and stink up the joint for a few days. And, you know, he's always rabble-rousing. I think their feelings. You don't mind you're never been a fan of. But I'm just saying we're talking about the next permutation Asahi's decisions these absolutes. I'll give everybody gets fifteen do really think these businesses are going to come in and say, well, this poor bastards worked here for five years for us, and he doesn't have the option. Some of these kids, do, so I'm gonna take him up to twenty they can't know they, they replace a lot of the employees with those touchscreens places like McDonalds. You know, I mean that's a until they unionize touchscreens will certainly unionize, but for now, they're saving money, by the way, we get a little more Smeg Ma on those touchscreen. Thanks how long before that suit, where somebody comes in and says, hey, I got Andromeda strain in my finger poor. When I go to fucking fishing, which created this little skier Christ. Hang a squeegee next to it. So you're, you know there's the next job at McDonald's squeezing off the touch screen so you don't get A Bola on trying to get a snack at night. But these are my thoughts. You struggling to sleep these days. You're not alone. One in three US adults doesn't get enough sleep. And I'm too of if you're not sleeping enough. It can affect your cognitive functions during the day, like learning problem, solving and decision making. 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Now let's move on over to a conversation with the officer Mr. Bill O'Reilly, this took place on his show yesterday before last night's democratic debate or in Billy, what picture of you used of me. It's not me lifting weights in Venice beach. Is it what, what I don't even know what they're using with you Miller might be unit duck. Sure, I so Dennis Miller has the podcast. Dennis Miller option. The O'Reilly factor. The Miller option. And he joins us now along with his guy Friday, Christian blast to give a little bit Christian. How you doing Christian? Can you put up with Miller? How is that possible? He pays me handsomely. So I do anything. He says, anything he says, threats we gotta Robinson Crusoe thing going here with Friday's oh, we got Miller. Let me say this. When you say after it's a two syllable back end on our name. I did that deliberately honest to God. They said to me, what do you want to call this show? I said, I just worked with a rally for six years. I'm telling you the guy knows how to sell soap and get people is on her ears on better than anybody. I know. And there's something about, oh, hard sound on the second part of it the factor, I can't tell you how many people would come up to me and say, I love you on the factor. They still say to this day. So I said, I wanted to syllable word that kind of is punchy so option became ours. It's not quite factor factor. No. It's the Dennis Miller option does yours. Hey, take it or leave it, you know. The option. I you know what's funny, Bill. I watch I watch all these TV shows like PTI and that, and they run down the center about or on the right side of the screen, what they're going to talk about. I think it all goes back to the talking points. I always thought that was such a ingenious move on your part. And I see it copied many places now. Thank you. I appreciate that. So are you in Christian going to watch the democratic debates? Jesus. I think I've just been told I'm running for president is a democrat. I didn't even know. I'm in the damn thing. No, no, I'm not going to be there, but I will be watching it in the same way, I slowed down on the berm to Ogle a car wreck. So you're not that any one of these people evening is going to impress you enough to get your vote. Well, I listen, I think Cory Booker is going to be somebody to keep an eye on tonight. Not in a good way. I think it's going to become a freak show. You know, he says he's Spartacus but whenever he says that I always hear, I'm Spurrier's I find him completely spurious. And I think Elizabeth Warren's moving beyond him. I think he has to do something to take her down tonight. And I'm looking for an interesting dynamic there Cory Booker, has to make his bones tonight to some degree and Warren, for some reason, I can't see she looks like a classic eve, Arden Skuld character in an old movie or something. But she somehow making moves now and I think he has to do something to break her moment. She's got a basically, it's all going to be about Trump for Warren. I think Warren is going to emerge as a racial Maddow of the political class. So I'm going to attack. Trump better than anybody could ever attack them visited attention center in homestead Florida, right? She came down early, she visited a immigration detention center. So I'm certainly she's going to bring that to the stage and start talking about Trump keeping these kids in squalor. The interesting thing is Bill, certainly when I hear a story like that. I mean granted from unnamed lawyers, but I want to look up and see what the latest is on that story. I looked it up, and I found pictures of these kids in the cages, I don't know if you've done this. But if you do a Google search you look and you go on that does look I don't think you can call it a concentration camp obviously. But it does look heartbreaking. And then I find that the pitchers have been posted by speechwriter for Obama named John Fabbro, and they're not from yesterday there from two thousand fourteen under the Obama administration and the guy to go back apologize and take them down. So listen, when you have a flood at the border, I don't care who's at the helm of it. You're going to have some ugly optics that. I think Janet Reno hated all children on Elian Gonzalez got pulled out of a. Ause at gun point. Now I didn't those simplistic takes on this stuff. It's a multilayered thing, the only thing we should all agree on is it's a heartache and thank God. I think Pelosi has been wise enough to free up the four point five billion for some internet humanitarian, if they need to pace than that, let's get it to them does. Absolutely right. And the cowardly commerce led by Pelosi, you will not pass immigration law because essentially, they don't want a law Miller. They want open borders, and amnesty. So why pass something they don't want? And that's why you don't get. Trump's with democrat, do you follow this stuff? No follow it for this setting it up to talk to Dennis. But I see myself as more of a comedian comedic writer. So I'm not I'm only involved in what makes for a good setup to a joke. I know your politics. I always I've worked with Christian. I never discussed that. So you just want a mock you just wanna mock everybody Christian is right? Yeah. I would say Joe Biden is just as funny as Dan Quayle. Back in the day. You know, the whoever's a good for a lark. Absolutely. That's why you compatible with Miller Miller, mocks everybody. And that's the way it should be going to be a matters, everybody guided. Right. Yeah. Biden makes Dan Quayle. Look like Buckminster fuller, because I think I think, Biden's spelling potato with a to ease. This. Now, if it comes down at Trump versus by you guys have a field day. I mean, this is like keeps you on the air from for six years, Biden versus Trump. I mean couldn't get better than that. You're. I know it gets anywhere near that. I don't think listen, Biden, ironically is going to be done in not for the reasons he should probably be done in for, but he's going to be done in for all the trivialities now that they can take you down with on the left. Listen when they call Caesar and now and put the long knives in they can do it with a myriad of issues, and they're probably gonna do Biden insisting that because he served, and it makes me laugh that when they go back, and they bring up these segregationist. I've heard them referenced as Republicans. Indeed. They were not. He was a young twenty nine to thirty year old Senator and had to sit in a room and caucus with fellow democrat segregation, Eastland. So listen, if that's what they're going to do them in with the political, correct thing begins to eventually eat the host organism, and it would be ironic after all these years of do fish behavior after all these years of Biden talking about breaking countries where war with done into three different know all these things that he's flung out that I've shaken my head and said my. God, this guy's barely tethered to reality. They're going to do them in on a fifty year old rap that he sat down with a couple of segregationists. It's unbelievable to me, what matters over there in the Democratic Party, now in the name of being open minded, the lockstep is turned into river dance, quite frankly. It's really going to be interesting because if Biden does get knocked out and you gotta expect to go after them tomorrow. He's on Thursday ticket. Then the second one it looks like it would be Elizabeth warn against Trump. I can't imagine, I think Trump would pay any amount of money to run against Elizabeth Warren, who's a communist. I mean this what she is. What's in American Indian, I think you would have the battle of the Atlantic City casino, owners versus the battle of the Indian casino. One, Elizabeth Warren. Get involved. Do you see final question for you Miller? Do you see? All right. Any hope that this country will ever be United again in anything? Well, I don't but, you know, I've been telling you that for years. I, I do you're very good at that you predicted it for long time ago I do think it will have to be a Stoorikhel reset Bill. I don't think it's going to be an incremental reset. But do I do. Do I see things like let's say nineteen twenty nine or eighteen sixty one God forbid as historical research? Yes. But I don't have the imagination, nor do, I want to have the morbid imagination of, to figure that out before it happens. But things always correct themselves. But do I think we've moved past the point of no return as far as us all coming together hands across the water and bringing it back incrementally? No, I don't think that's going to happen. Something will happen historically done road is extreme. It'll probably be an economic collapse. I want everybody to row watch the Genesis Miller option. Westwood One putting it out and we appreciate it next week. New christian. Very well by Miller is a very wealthy man. I miss you. Billy say, how dispenser for me, and I'll see you soon. All right. Bye. Thanks for listening to the Dennis Miller option exclusively on Westwood One. Tune into new episodes, every Tuesday and Thursday on the Westwood One. Westwood One dot com and on podcasts and remember to rate review and share until next time. That's the show, and we are out of here from the Westwood One podcast network.

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Sunday, January 20, 2019

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Sunday, January 20, 2019

"Tonight on this special edition of sixty minutes presents eat drink and be married. The restaurant ranked number one in the world is in the little known town of Modena Italy, Austria Francesc Ghana where you have to wait months to get a reservation sees outside in bloom. Chef mossy mo-, but says it wasn't always like this was a flowers of flowers edible flowers that is on guard eater in might never have become number one. If not for a simple and spectacular dish of old-fashioned talion tally. So that turned everything around totally. You are known as the maestro. Now before they want to crucify me. Maybe. Sixty minutes is constantly on the lookout for places. We've never been before. So when our late colleague Bob Simon heard about a magical place in the Hebrides islands off the coast of Scotland known for making some of the great whiskeys in the world. Well, the story spoke to it. Chairs literally thousands upon thousands of single malt two-disc coming here. They come from all over the while just to say, I lot to study it no to drink it. Good. Have you ever wondered what it would be like to meet Paul McCartney and talk about the Beatles? Well, so of we outside IB road after we'd made the AVI wrote cross. Attachment and I remember talking to John about his taxes. Said to me, you better won't him because he doesn't know. Taxes? That's what you have. This look on your face. Look, the a need to talk to you about your taxes. Look. Good evening. I'm Sharon Alfonsi. Welcome to sixty minutes presents tonight will eat drink and be merry the food is from Italy the drink from Scotland and for merriment songs from a lad from Liverpool. First let's eat today. Chefs going to be as famous movie stars but few rival the success and celebrity of mossy Moba Torah his restaurant of stereo franchesca has three Michelin stars and ranks number one on this year's list of the world's fifty best restaurants is located in northern Italy in a city called Modena where the great tenor Luciano Pavarotti was born this fall when Liz Lee stall went to mono- to meet chef, but Torah she was struck by how operatic. He is imagine. Imagine imagine dream you have to dream about. Dream about all this. All these we first met Masa mobile Torah shopping for food in Modena the home of Italy's finest balsamic vinegar and parmesan cheese. He buys the freshest vegetables like green tomatoes that he likes to top off with twenty five year old ball stomach vinegar. Are you ready? I can't wait. Okay. It's an experience that is gonna stay with you for the rest of your life. I'm telling you a huge moment. For you, the whole thing just like this one by. And the arise. Connect your mental pats and understand your perceptual. Your receptor are talking to you right now there are so many different things going on in. My is it is it is complexity, and that's his signature as a chef. And what's he makes his making his author toasting rice? The orange dishes that are complex mixtures of unexpected flavors. Do bad. No matter. In his kitchen at Austria Francesca. He oversees a staff of thirty five as they build his beautiful Ron guard masterpieces that he says are inspired by contemporary, art. His creations are like canvases, any Christians them. He calls this camouflage made a wild hair juniper, berries and cocoa powder spectacular. Some of his dishes are beautiful summer whimsical. And then there's his version of popular Italian cuisine. That's chicken chicken. You wouldn't recognize most of his talion dishes. This is the crunchy part of lasagna spaghetti with tomato. Spaghetti with parmesan spaghetti with fresh herbs. Batori is one of the most successful chefs in the so-called deconstruction school where food is presented like abstract art. Been his culinary creations are rooted in the traditions of northern Italy and his hometown Modena in ancient city of narrow streets and Grandpa's where they've been making parmesan cheese and balsamic vinegar the same way for centuries. It's where but Torres love of food began when he was just a little boy hiding under the kitchen table. I remember my grandmother was a rolling past. The meantime what I was doing. I was stealing the tortellini from from under the table and eat the rota Leaney. Beginning to develop your palate. Tortellini from a rotter Toledo understand a lot. You can understand the amount of spices. They use the amount of parmigiano the amount of ham. You know, those kind of things a little balance older you at that point. You're a kid. Yeah. Six seven six and you're falling in love with food in that moment. Exactly. He started cooking for his friends when he was in high school. But it's father's wanted him to become a lawyer in the family's lucrative fuel business. I have to show my dad he was wrong because tried to try to convince me and not to get into that business being chef. Yeah, he didn't respect that. As always isn't areas. No, no, no, no, no. You didn't know more money from dad? That was that was at you. And you're saying to yourself I have to show you. I don't wanna say revenge is very strong word. It's more like show. He showed that you were right show that I'm also right? But he wasn't right right away. When he and his American wife, Laura Gilmore opened Austria Francesca in nineteen ninety five the midst all that tradition in Modena they were offering Torahs minimalist rendition of a bowl of tortellini just six little pieces of pasta six little tiny. And that was the biggest provocation of all tortellini is something it comfort food for for modern as it's like a religion. You don't believe in. God you believe in tortellini. But you don't want six you want a nice big abundant ball of tortellini with the hot broth, and he was serving this sort of war room temperature, Brock's gel, and the tortellini were there, and there were six of them, and the modern news were like putting their hands. Like, what did I come here for? Food. Critics ask themselves the same question, very modern is put created came. And he food more than is grinning came Anita the hour. Of course, there was terrible. Please dog go their dog good there in hardly anyone did his food was seen as a sacrilege a country that reveres mothers and their home. Cooking. Did you ever say to yourself? Okay. I'm going right back to the old talion cooking. I can do it. I know how to do it. Then never know. Now, you can do that. But after six years of bad reviews and empty tables he gave in and introduced a handful of traditional Italian dishes, including an old-fashioned Talia tally. And then a prominent national food critic happened by order the talian tally and wrote. But these are the best in the world. He said, yes. So that turned everything around totally. You are known as the maestro. Now before they want to crucify me in the main Piazza. Now, they called me my ass. That's. That's the difference. Some of the maestro's dishes are improvisations born out of accidents like his books. I dropped the lemon tart, that's. Classic. The story begins when his pastry chef taka was making a lemon tart, I saw taka completely white you drop one of the two tart in the plate upside down just like that. Oh. Back. I was like ready to kill himself. And I said Dhaka talking all please don't kill yourself dog. Look at that that lemon tart is so beautiful that we have to serve the second one. Exactly the first one. We did it we rebuild in a perfect way. They imperfection smashed the other start exactly as the first one. I can't believe that. If I think Dow like we were crazy. I was like totally out of mine. Hoops, I dropped limit tarred is Jackson Pollock on a plate. And it's one of the most popular dishes on a tasting menu of twelve courses that with wine can cost more than five hundred dollars a person, they served lunch and dinner five days a week. And it's always booked reservations open three months in advance and fill up in minutes. Are you prepare for it for the best salad of your life? He invited us to sample some of his other signature dishes and his well stocked wine cellar sees solid in bloom. Those flowers flowers and flowers all twin seven elements in that it takes two shafts to build a salad by we've paddle bipedal. And for this dish, it takes a splash of seawater. Visit seawater transform into paper. You make paper out of seawall. Yes. It may not look like it. But this is Bo Taurus fillet of sole topped off with wisps of dehydrated seawater. He calls it Mediterranean combustion. How am I ever gonna eat normative ever? But you feel our light you feel very light. Yeah. There's but totally delicious. How long did it take you to create this one dish was that months? Thirty two years. Committee of experience. Now, fifty six after all his hard work, but Torah is riding high sometimes on his customized do Coty motorcycle. But a few years ago he began to feel something was missing in his life that serving fancy food to winner national food wasn't enough. So like other celebrity chefs he began to think about helping the poor by feeding this is late two thousand thirteen we had just sort of what one year into having our third Michelin star that we had worked twenty years to get. And I'm thinking now you want to start doing this. I thought it was a terrible idea. But she relented and helped him open a number of what he calls repertory kind of souped up soup kitchens. But he didn't want them to feel like down in outstanding line cafeterias. So partnering with local charities he created warm inviting. Dining rooms in old, abandoned theaters were anew space in churches, where the working poor and homeless Italians and refugees from Africa sit side by side with volunteers who serve them. Three course meals like in high quality restaurants, the food donated by local grocery stores would have been thrown out because it slightly damaged or near it sell by date. We are Italian. So we're gonna make pasta. He's opened seven repertory. Oh, so far and London Paris Rio de Janeiro and four in Italy with more to come where did that inspiration? Come from the numbers. I've met numbers. Thirty three percent of the world production are wasted. Every year. One point three billion tons of food is wasted. Every year. You know, think about one trillion of apples goes in the gover- garbage think about our many, you know, apple pie, you could create with those with thrill liens of you know, that's insane. The man who has for decades insisted on the oldest buzzsaw sonic, the finest parmesan the freshest tomatoes now realizes their salvation in discarded leftovers if cooked well, they can nourish the poor as he says filling their stomachs and lifting their spirits mushroom. And his as well, it's absolutely necessary to give back some of the lucky life, you're living. So this is about giving back. It's what is what we need. We need dreams. If you don't dream, and you don't dream beg. You cannot change the word. When our late colleague Bob Simon heard about a magical place in the Hebrides islands off the coast of Scotland known for making some of the great whiskeys in the world. Well, the story spoke to him the place is called Isla, and it's one of five whisky producing regions in Scotland then make an expensive type of scotch called single malt. Eyeless distilleries turn out relatively small amounts of their own handcrafted brands for a worldwide luxury market that's more than double in size in the last decade and become the spirit of quivalent of the fine wine business. Bob, light, good scotch and beautiful places. So he went off to Scotland but died before he could finish the piece leaving behind a stack of videotapes in some random notes back in twenty fifteen Steve Kroft decided to finish it for him. And raise a glass in Bob's memory. Is a small island twenty miles off the west coast of Scott. There are few trees miles of windswept Heather can some of the most fertile agricultural land in Scotland their sheep and cattle everywhere and an abundance of wildlife, but that's not why people come here. This is eight small distilleries that produce some of the world's finest single malt. Whisky? This is a whole life blood of this island and everybody on it. This is all we know. Jimmy Kyun has been working I list distillery since he was fifteen years old. He's now master of the work said, Brooke Lonnie, I just thank God that he chose the Scots and gave them whiskey because we appreciate the gift on we look after they've been making it here since the fifteenth century. When supposedly some monks taught the locals how to use barley water in east to make the spirit the Scots down. Call the water of life. They've been perfecting it for six hundred years the distilleries are easy to find. But hard to pronounce are beg, but more book Lodhi Buna, Hobben Colella, so Homann. Roy Bob, Simon noted they get harder to pronounce the more. You guys know why scores to Scotland whiskey as religion because it's a provider McClay thing. But whiskey is not just drank as much more than that some old Hollywood movies. I have scotch was always portrayed in Hollywood, whiskey when you die. No you in trouble. The one thing that was going to get you back on your feet. That was a scotch today. If you're down on your luck, you probably can't afford Isla single the Goodwin started around seventy dollars a bottle. The rare wins can go for hundreds of dollars glass sheet whiskey bars around the world where they are known for their distinctive, smokey taste. It comes from Pete. The mossy earth fuel that's cut from bugs on the island. It was used a heat Scottish homes for centuries, and is still used to toast, the barley Isla distilleries. John Campbell is the master distiller at LA. One of the top selling single moats that America Pete is the thing that makes I like unique, and it really resonates with people, and it just engenders can a love hate relationship, and the people that love it up -solutely love it with a passion. In there seems to be no shortage of Islas not easy to get to usually requiring multiple flights. The long drive and a two hour ferry ride yet enthusiasts continue to make the pilgrimage especially for the whisky festival. Let the late size on thousands of single malt. Two-disc coming here come from all over the while just to say the Nyla to study it. No, it's drank it as lovely as clean as fresh as five rent officially whiskey fast is a celebration of Islas culture. But mostly it's about drinking. Beautiful new tall as they listen to Jim McEwen extol the virtues of Brooklyn than vitiates connoisseurs and whisky snobs approached each glass with reverence bordering on the religious while the not as incredible as the glasses empty. The smiles got bigger, but the islanders will tell you that all of this warmth in good feeling comes not from the alcohol in the spirits, but from the spirit of the place. It is almost mystical beautiful dramatic and quiet. There's no road rage. Barely any traffic? If you do get hung up. It's probably because of a format they had the right away. If you do have upon people, they'll almost always greet you with the island wave septic not just waves because there's just friendly. There's not so many of us. So you just to say, hi, Elsa. Hayes liked about the island when she moved her family here from London to take a manager's position. At one of I lose, thriving distilleries. It's train at such a small place with so few people. Your products are known everywhere in the rhino way. Makes us already freight does such Bim what old white for for single malts. It's fantastic. And you can really feel that on the island a low of the studies have doubled production. And so there's a lot of opportunity that as well. And there's no reason to believe continue. Well times are good people. Drink times are bad people drink. Is it possible to be socially acceptable to be a teetotaler on this island? Yes. Are there any yes? I'm one of. Over the years the islands people. Learn how to entertain themselves often at gatherings called Keighley's which featured traditional dance in sad songs mostly about leaving Isla in urine to return to. Of the. To all to goal pack home never to. Is my. All this looks and feels like Ireland. That's no coincidence. It's only twenty five miles away. They come from the same tribe. Share the same Celtic culture in Gaelic language. Not to mention a love of good whiskey that gets them through stormy weather in the long winter nights. There are new movie theaters on island. No, dry cleaners. No supermarkets. No McDonalds at least in the fast food business. Jim McEwan says there's a long list of things that I doesn't have and doesn't want. We don't have any crime. We don't have mugging cod. Jackie how speaking rape just dope. Doug's? We don't have you can keep you very welcome to how do you explain the fact that there's no crime here is everywhere. If you commit a crime in a small community, you'll be ostracized and half to leave. No, only that your family. Children and your children's children will be remembered as the children of the mind who committed decline most Scots are forthright practical people who are proud of their country. And the fact that they're most famous export is withstood the test of time, they see themselves as artists and making whisky is more about art at alchemy than manufacturer every distiller has their own secrets and superstition. We'll give you the unclassified two minute tour. Sorry, we can't offer you free samples. It begins with a bit of trickery on the multi floor when barley that's been soaked in water is spread out in rake over and over to convince the grain it's spring and time to Germany releasing the starches that are locked inside. It's then dried with Pete smoked at flavor and ground into flour sometimes with nineteenth century machinery and then mixed with hot water transforming the starches into sugary. Concoction called MAC. Or you can smell the goodness east is then added changing the sugar and alcohol primitive AO, which is then cooked a couple of times in copper stills where the vapor is collected and condensed into this clear liquid Lhasa stuff. We want to go into the vile run. I'm looking at this looks like rubbing alcohol. This is in fact, it was good. I bet it would be good ones. This goes into the barrel from then it's time. It's just. It's just jump in. All this is a child, but the cost is the mother amass sport makes Johnny if you give a good pass your boat to get child. It's not simple. It takes less than three weeks to make but requires at least ten years of aging in these tasks which add flavor and color to turn it into world class, single malt. Whisky see some of the names. Clements springs. Buffalo sees Jim being Bob was surprised to learn that ninety seven percent of the casks used to make single malt. Whiskey had been previously used to age American bourbon and bought second-hand from US distillers. It's testimony to the ingenuity and gallery of the Scots who have very few oak trees American Bala would be skinned simple as the sophisticated palate will detect a hint of the open bourbon and single as well as the sweetness of Sherry that comes from wine cast on in Europe before the final product is sold. It will have done time in a number of different casks master distiller. Jim mccune is the one who decides wind rotate them and win each barrel is ready to be bottled. He opened a young cast for Bob the sample describe that as metal meal obsessively pure, and it's only seven years old. That's why young. Young people that vibrant foot of life. In fact, this for me is like coming home from what the end of the day what really hot. Nuclear previous me. My wife doesn't appreciate my kids to appreciate me. Life's a bitch. It doesn't matter couple of show. So that an I am the king of the world. I'm -solutely. You know, I frankly, I never liked this stuff. But the way you're talking into it. But you go to shake every bar, certainly also. The Cuban is the man responsible for the taste, and consistency of the whiskeys flooding, which requires a very personal involvement with the product. I have heard you described as the cask whisper do talk to casks. In what language mainly English depends on many whiskies. I've hod few whiskers tend to out to the language. I'm talking to the Koss is just one of these things you go into the White House and you put the Bunga Joya sample. Yeah. And you look at it, and you think wow. Beautiful. Not just ready yet. I'm gonna come back and see you three months. Okay. Other times you find that costs pushes so incredibly goods, you can't speech online. God, you are the most beautiful thing I ever tasted in my light anything. I just wanna see us with there's nobody arriving this this me and the cats will stay. On most days McEwen devotes several hours to quality control checking up on several hundred casks, but it's a fantastic job nosing tasting whiskeys, and you can still walk out of here in the evening, occasionally, I need some help that. Dying devotion to one's whiskey is apparently not all that unusual. Why we were on island the camera coup ran into a party of Canadians, the friends and family of the deceased single moat lover name Bill. The wanted his ashes scattered in the waters opposite his favorite distillery funds for the pilgrimage were set aside in his will. Now, he's got the. After that. The only thing left was for Bob to say goodbye to Jim McEwen, and it turned out to be last. Call for old pow Bob Simon. Bob Hope you've enjoyed this. Visit he you're speaking in the past. It's not that I'm gonna get you hear this. Cost a fortune. Long after our story. First aired master distiller, Jim McCue and retired. But not for long, the it is now part of the team opening Islas ninth distillery called Arden Aho the first to open on the island in more than ten years. At the beginning of this season. We wondered why we had never profiled the most successful musician and composer in popular music history. Maybe it's because it's nearly impossible to try and find something surprising to talk to, sir. Paul McCartney about how do you just a new memory from a beetle who over the decades, maybe the most written about person on the planet? This fall as the Beatles. White album turned fifty years old we decided to go for it. Mr Macartney was funny. Reflective as we used rare photos and film to walk him through some very personal Beatles stories wondered who at the age of seventy six he's still trying to impress. But let's start with a bit of a revelation. The man who has sold an estimated billion records, and maybe you rock enrolls best bass player can't write or read music. Is that true? I don't read music or write music. None of us did in the Beatles. We did some good stuff though. But none of it was written down by us. It's basically notation that's the bid icon to because I don't see music like I don't. That's interesting. See I don't see music as dots on the page. It's something in my head. That goes on. From his first countdown on their first of their first album. That's something has translated globally and across generations. Today. Mccartney is still seeing use it in his head heavy feel about this one Umbro Lexus. This one McCartney's latest album Egypt station debuted at number one. When you are writing these songs for you're trying to impress. Every will. I suppose to tell order. A lot is an impossible to you. Right. But doesn't stop me trying. But don't people always say, I love it. Paul wonderful. Okay. Appreciable hazard. We spent two days with mce as friends have called him since Liverpool touring his relic filled recording studio on the south English coast this road. And this is defining Russia's in. And we were surprised to find Paul McCartney at seventy six seems to feel the same need to prove himself as he did when he was a teenager sink, people worry about things on it. Doesn't matter. How elevated you or your reputation guests is to wonder about things I mean. What else do you have to prove people say about me only really wants to be liked going doesn't everyone. Do you worry more now than you used to those? Who are maybe, you know, for instance, when we'd done now famous with the Beatles, and we had done revolver the and. I towers one day. I thought it was attitude. I thought the whole album was out of June. I listened to for some reason. I went to the is. June. To do. A LEGO bit worried. Listen to this is no it isn't. Okay. We were with McCartney as he prepared to tour warming up with some surprise shows, including this one at Liverpool's cavern club, the Beatles. Played this club almost three hundred times McCartney's fans know every word to hey, Jude yesterday and band on the run we were surprised who didn't. Doing shows. I listen to music music wings music to see what ones will do and to lend them. What do you mean forgotten really? It's too many too many woods too, many notes. They're very hard. I mean, it's not like they're all three rules. Mccartney is at least a co author of rock and rules constitution. Credited with the stunning twenty nine number one hits. Macartney's work has been covered by icons from almost every musical genre. Same Asli, John Lennon, Paul McCartney became songwriting partners as teenagers one of both rooted lyrical Rockin roller the other a musical Polly Matt with a gift for melody and experimentation. News, I flew tone notes on strawberry fields, John Lennon's masterpiece. We're McCartney's idea. Jay. We just competitive writing with each other did you complement each immune DRO? Yeah. Competitive, you know, openly. But we we later admitted so pulls goodwill coming and I would similarly that's a bit good right here. We go Kumo pita written stroll refills, I would write penny lane. You know, he's remembering his old area in Liverpool. So I'll remember mine, and when that happened did you complement each other once? Why? And how many years? No revolve here there and everywhere was one of my songs on it. And. Johnson. Just finished Regan song a love. That's I was like, yes. Yes. Remember to this day? Greeley did you ever heap praise on him of telling his stuff was great? You'd normally have to be a little bit drunk. Helped you don't need to be a Beatle fan to appreciate the importance of this part of London tourists. It rivals. Big Ben or trying to catch a glimpse of the Royal grandkids Abbey Road studios where Paul John George and Ringo along with producer, George Martin began denting pop culture, I generally thirty harmonies. Leader by exploring then defining would could be. The during ten sessions for what would become the white album fifty years ago, the Beatles. Still only in their twenties again breaking apart. Waiting for this moment to? All of this picture. This is very special for me this series because after the Beatles broke up I kind of accused of being the one that broke them up, and we always had a terrible relationships. So this always reminds me of how happy we were together. Checking some lyrics, and it's just great the way Jones just smiling. Obviously just to mates taking the pictures. Was Paul's first wife the late Linda McCartney her photos from life and photographs are intimate and historic who you're in the studio down to putting finishing touches to the. And we had another title going on. We didn't really like. So I just said, hey, why don't we just call it be road? And what we could do. We just go right outside walk across the cross stone. You know, and it was like. Yeah. Okay. Everyone agreed shoes I had sandals on. But I just left them over here to the left because it was very hot day is side b road after we'd made the Abbey Road crossing petulant. And I remember talking to John about his taxes. Someone said to me you better won't him because he doesn't know. That's the way you have this glum lip on your he's gloom. Look of the a need to talk to you about your taxes. Look. That's fine. This is back God and Yoko in his and if you see looks on the faces all except Joel kinda going. Why she in the Bill? Happen. How did she was allowed in the photo model in love Joan wants to take her everywhere. I think none of us say chill, but we'll fell to. So it was a pill Koutros almost admit, this is my very favorite. About a little baby in my jacket now has four children of our own McCartney credits, his love of family and music to his father. Jim who raised Paul after his mother died when he was just fourteen today. The man who wrote mother nature son has four grown children a fifteen year old daughter and eight grandchildren. We also showed McCartney what amounted to home video of the Beatles is cold and we're coming out from their last live performance together testing the group the apple rooftop concert in London. Say know. Pretty good too. Million dollar business conflicts and creative differences were carrying a lot of weight, but watch them try and hold back smiles as they walked through song. They wrote as teenagers. I think you see it here. Twice home, baby. On the one band about that look between the nose. It was winning the business krypton and it got a bit sticky on. Really that bad. We do. We ended up pitching on each other from a fall, you know. The business part of things worked out pretty well from Mr Macartney he's worth more than a billion dollars for the last seven years. He says is good fortune is due to his wife. Nancy an American who he calls beautiful and real though, he realizes it's probably tricky being married to one of the most famous faces on earth just being Russian-ize by everyone. I mean, it will always need that. It's. I mean, it's difficult thing, you know, because you don't want sort of be mean to them because they're nice people. They genuinely like you. But you have to draw the line these days everyone's gonna camera everyone go. So the first thing when I see people. They can't say anything. We'll do a picture. Would you say I'm sorry. I don't do pictures, but I'm very happy to shake your hand on. We'll have a chat new sell fees, who cares? The headline is if you need Paul McCartney, you can have a check and who doesn't want to have a chat with the Beatles. Or listen to one on his new world tour. Where are you most content? When are you most content are live on a foam in England's about twenty minutes from here on for me. It's great because I can obtain in like oh stralia playing to forty thousand people two days before. Now, I'm back on the phone the MoMA hose, we're going into the woods. And it's quiet little but put singing so that is very it's a great balance. What's the biggest misconception about you? I really I don't I don't hear about them. I don't know. What people think about me? I can try guess. Oh, I'll tell you. What you must have. No insecurities. Just like anyone else? You have insecurities because everyone has on amount of how high and great of wonderful. You get to still something will make you worry. He just going to go. I'm good. I did it all would like to think I could do that. But I think it would be boring on I think I give up trying and I quite like that. I don't think I've done. Could you imagine that? Paul McCartney will just let it be. 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Part One: Steven Seagal Is So Much Worse Than You'd Ever Imagine

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Part One: Steven Seagal Is So Much Worse Than You'd Ever Imagine

"I'm Joe Levy and this time around on inside the studio, we sit with Sir, Paul McCartney he gives us some new Beatles tails and also tells us about the making of his brand. New album. Egypt station on capitol records is always children. George arguing about who would have his amp allowed us. Let's put it seven new. Just see George John noticed for more great conversations like this search and follow inside the studio on iheartradio. I subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, everybody, I'm Robert Evans, and this is once again behind the bastards show where we tell you everything you don't know about the very worst people in all of history. And with me today in this special San Francisco city, by the bay episode of behind the bastards is Sean Riley, also known as Sean baby. It's a pleasure to be here. I had to check up on your last name because I've only ever known. He was Sean baby. It is Riley. Yeah, Sean, Patrick Riley. Gotcha. Because, you know, my dad was his turn to name the kids and he really wanted to Irish name. So he said, triple the Irish Sean Riley is very Irish, right. Adding a Patrick in there just too much separately. So it's too much. Well, we are talking about the opposite of an Irish person today. Steven Seagal we have cans of wine. Is that not normal? Not normal. Normally I'm sober other than the natural Haya Doritos gives me I'm going to be your first drunken Irish guest, drunken Irish. Yeah, we did a really drunk one at unite the right to. But anyway, we're just going to dive right in here to our story about Steven Seagal. All can't wait. Now, if you all remember Stevens, gall kind of mediocre bordering on decent sometimes action star of such films as under siege on ground. Yeah. What on dental grads? Not so great. No, no, no, no. Under siege is all right. We're talking a hard to kill. Yeah, hard to kill love the law above the law. Hard target was JEAN CLAUDE van Damme movie which was better than all these. Yeah, I don't. We should talk about John Glen Manhattan, three hours. Well, the thing about Stevens, the guy, I suspect a lot of people listening to this might be surprised that Steven Seagal has been picked as a subject for this, and I want to ensure everyone up front. He's a monster, and that's part of what's so important to talk about today because you can. You can help from his movies like there seem to be made by a very insecure, man. I don't know if you watched a lot of his films, but he has never taken a shot. Steven Seagal movie was just him like just walking through his enemy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, he's not. It's not like Bruce Willis thing where he's going to shot and choked and beat up and no, it's just the two of us go. That's ever been. Yeah. And even when he made the glimmer man and like q in every way inside of these funny lines, he's like, you know what? I should have always funny lines to. And so like there's two funny men, there's no straight guy in that movie except Steven Seagal has no comic timing and he sort of sucks. But like again walks through everybody and you have a, you have a knife, Steven Seagal has nothing. You're still dead like ten seconds into that fight your dead. Oh, yeah. He's gonna break your arms of the night. Yes, back towards you, and then you stab you with your own night. That's the kind of action here. John. Damn, he'd get stabbed like seventy five times and make a heroic comeback. That's a story. Yeah. Yeah, that's an arc. There's no arc since Steven Seagal movie. The archaeologist, Steven Seagal is a bad ass. There are people opposed to him and then they're dead? Yes, yeah. So Stephen Frederick Seagal or while Stephen Frederick Siegel is the original pronunciation of his name. So we'll get to that in a second was born on April tenth nineteen. Fifty two on his personal website, Steven Seagal dot com. He describes his early life thusly a son of a math teacher and a medical technician Stevens. Humble childhood was underscored by fascination with the martial arts and the blues. Some would say that this is a strange combination, but ask any martial arts expert or blues legend, and they will both tell you that it is the spirit that reaches deep within your soul drives the artistry. The blues learn it. On ancient mountaintop backs. Think about it. It's actually freaky how accurate that is to what he claims about training in the blues. Like every stupid thing I make up, you're like, oh yeah, that's actually. You can't think this is dumber than it is. Sinister. So that's the Steven Seagal tail. So according to the guardian, Stephen began studying Kito when he was seven years old. And soon thereafter, quote, profess to his parents that he was not of this cosmic realm. From karate class that it came from space. Yeah, it's possible that this was because young Steven Seagal was actually the reincarnation of a seventeenth century, Buddhist Lama. But again, more on that later, probably the best source I've been able to find on Siegel's early life was November nineteen. Ninety article in people magazine written at the height of his popularity. The author actually got to interview his mom, Pat and get some presumably accurate information about the stars early life. The article notes that while Seagal claimed that quote, a lot of my youth was spent in Brooklyn. His mom says that he was born in Lansing, Michigan and live near Detroit until the family moved to Fullerton, California, when he was five. Here's a quote from that article, although Seagal likes to paint himself as an urban street kid whom the Fullerton youth saw is some kind of crazy gangster pet says her son was frail and suffered from asthma. He was a party kid back then she says, but he really thrived after the move from Michigan. Good for him. Yeah, no, moving up, moving to Fullerton was great. And yeah, weird thing. Ally about, yeah. Wanting people to think that you were a gangster at five. I wouldn't have bought it anyway. Like going, ask his mom and his mom sells them at immediately. He didn't even say like mom until we wanna come from the karate streets. You got to, you got to cover for me. She's like, I'm not doing that sweetheart. If people magazine calls them telling them the truth, you fat and as the Matic and you're not from space. You know, the kid in elementary school who who always has all these like bold lies about his uncle, navy seal or whatever like that. Steven Seagal is that, but never growing up learning. And yet it's a great way to describe him. So Stevens mom says that he spent most of his youth playing rock music rather than the blues, but confirms that he was obsessed with Akito from an early age. So that does seem to be true is the perfect sport for seven-year-old. Ito. The last we not. She says, quote, he worked with this nice old Japanese man at a Dozo in garden grove, he hurt Stephen to go to Japan. We don't know win. Stephen, I went to Japan because he is a to a liar. But in sundry interviews, he's claim to a first gone there at various years from between nineteen sixty three to nineteen Seventy-three. So somewhere in that period, Fullerton, college enrollment records note that he was enrolled there from nineteen seventy to seventy one which suggests he would have been at least nineteen before leaving. This is meaningful because one of Stephen's claims to fame is that he studied under more. Hi Shiba the founder of Akito since Mr. yeshiva died in nineteen sixty nine. It's likely that Stevens lying about that too. It, it won't stop being that. So Siegel move back to California in nineteen seventy four, where he met me AKU food at attorney. A second degree black belt and daughter of an Akito master from Osaka Japan. They met in LA too. Does show where she worked and Stephen pursued her quote aggressively. The sound of that? No, no, it will be creepy later. At this point he was really good looking and his youth like he is legitimately swell, like a handsome guy at like in his early twenty s and she was charmed by it. She says, he somehow lost all that by the time he made his first movie. Oh yeah. Okay. No, you went downhill from like age. Eighteen on has been a steady slide. To be honest, I think he might have peaked at five. So me echo eventually went home to Asaka and Stephen went with her. So he went back to Japan a second time they got married there according to Robert Strickland, a former CIA consultant who knew Seagal Japan Seagal claimed to have married miakel and moved there in order to quote, avoid the draft marrying a Japanese national would make him less likely to be sent back to the United States. So he doesn't talk about that so much anymore now that he's Steven Seagal lawman. But yeah, that's partly why I moved to Japan in the first place to avoid the draft. Okay. Yeah, to this day Seagal claims that he was the first and at the time only white man to open a Dojo in Japan. If true, that would be impressive. Spy magazine says that that's bullshit. However, I magazine. Calling you on your bullshit. I bet that's some serious bullshit. I really like every article of spy read because they'd agreement about Paul Manafort like this one, they spent six months studying Steven Seagal and like talking to people who knew him as a kid really getting into his backstory. It's a fun journey into the youth of Steven Seagal. Yeah, the spy magazine baby quote, in fact, the DOJ, oh, which was founded by Gitanas father. A noted Akito black belt was owned by his mother in law in managed by his wife herself. A black belt Seagal has also boasted of his courage in battling criminals. Sometimes they dug of the accuser, the Japanese mafia. Other times they are mere garden variety criminals. I jumped right in front of their faces Seagal told movie line. I was a teenage mother fucker man, and I was fearless Miyako his ex wife. Cisco was not exactly telling the truth about fighting the AKU man, quote it is a lie. He wants chased a few drunks away from the Dozo, but was never involved with Kusa. So that's it could have been cruiser. You don't know. No man could have been drunk. You cruiser. Another major Seagal claim to fame is that he was the first westerner to receive a black belt and Akito his ex wife doesn't challenge this exactly. But she did tell spike quote, the only reason Stephen was awarded the black belt was because the judge who was famous for his laziness fell asleep during Stephen's presentation. Judge just gave him the black belt. Like, where am I? Who is this guy. Here's a black belt. Normally only give these two nine year olds at the YMCA, but you seem like a good guy like yakuza fighting good guy. This is a ridiculous story. It's really ridiculous. Like such dubious honors to lie about the first black. Okay, dude, did his black belt is one of those phrases that's like a shortcut to me, just cutting using my ears to somebody like, okay, you're bragging about being a black belt. The question is can you teach me taekwondo wish case absolutely. Drop your credentials. Why not? Yeah. So Stephen spent a sizeable chunk of elite seventies teaching martial arts in Japan, and according to him, this is when he first attracted the attention of the CIA. Here's how Stephen put it in the nineteen eighty eight interview with the l. a. times these guys were my students. They saw my abilities both with martial arts and with the language, you can say that I became an advisor to several CIA agents in the field through my friends in the day, I met many powerful people ended special works special favors special favors. Roofing, all of Minnesota. Stephen claims that during this Lansing, Michigan. There to Stephen claims that during this period he did security work for Archbishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa, the Shah of Iran and Egyptian President Anwar Sadat I'm gonna guess none of those. Probably probably not. Probably not in war Sadat I, I mean, clearly his security team wasn't great because he got assassinated. So maybe sigo was Kida. Kida. Eight akito. It's not working. Oh, sorry. Anwar that was that was unfair. For a time. It was hard to refute or confirmed Stevens claims of bad aswering his ex wife, Mia co did admit that he would regularly go away for long chunks of time during their ten years together saying, might children don't have any memory of him as a father. So he must be an India. The first thing to Pierce the illusion of Steven Seagal actual action hero turned movie action hero was that wonderful nineteen Ninety-three spy article man of dishonor by John Connolly. Now, like I said, this article was the result of a six month investigation, and it was the first place to point out that Steven Seagal. Last name was originally pronounced Siegel, not Seagal. Are you gonna guess how that came about. I'm gonna say, definitely had to do with ninjas. He had to have been defending some kind of DOJ. Oh, no, this is actually the only believable story he's ever told. He apparently went to a gall exhibit at a museum and liked the pronunciation. Never never would have guessed that. I believe that's true. No one would lie about that. So when Seagal came back from Japan in nineteen eighty, he opened to Doges one of them in Taus New Mexico, and one of them in Los Angeles houses and odd choice, kind of a small town, an Akito, Joe familiar. Not familiar. Must be a great Akito town. It's beautiful town. I didn't notice any Akito going on there. So I think it failed to take on Miyako says that her then husband told her that he wanted to go to the US either rich and Hollywood or by running restaurants, which he doesn't seem to have ever done. She supported him in his dreams though, and spent years saving up money and living like a Popper to fund his trip back in his attempts to start a business. So that sweet, sweet. I'm going to guess he does right buyer. Let's read the next paragraph before he left her. He told her quote, I will always do the right thing. I will never betray here. You. Then he took her savings went to America and married another woman Adriaan the Russa in nineteen Eighty-four. Shortly thereafter, he met another woman actress, Kelly LeBron according to Joe, hi than Warner Brothers, VP publicity, Seagal solid Brock in the film woman in red and said, she is my destiny. So high and Seagal wound up having dinner with Jerry Pam, LeBron former agent, enduring dinner Seagal asked Pam, what the best way to get publicity was Pam told him it was to be seen in the company of famous people. So Seagal asked him if he could help them meet Kelly, LeBron Pam told Seagal. Charlie was currently in Japan. So Steven Seagal who was still married to me Akot in a legally married to a second woman flew his first wife's home country to try to pick up a third woman because she was. That's how all great stories start. It's almost a work of art as far as being a shitty person. It's like the being garbage husband version of the Mona Lisa. Like if you're interested in Rome and you're like, okay, we got to have this piece of shit do some stuff to let the viewers know. He's a piece of shit. He'd be like nude pump the brakes on all this. This is way too much and it is way too much. And yet that does seem to be what happened. So he did meet Kelly LeBron Japan and within two weeks, they were lovers within a year. She was pregnant by this time Adrienne LaRussa had decided to file for an annulment. So that's good. Seagal granted her in an element. She didn't seek any financial support. And in an interview later stated that in fact, quote, I gave him money for months afterward just to get him out of my life. I can't say very much because I'm afraid of Stephen and his friends. We'll talk about who Stephen and his friends, but yeah, yeah, it's just sad for this girl. Like a lot of women for kill Brock. I mean, there's not a whole lot of shame in that like most women's fears. Kelly Louise? Yeah, but like still pay the guy money. Yeah, and he's also got another wife. Yeah, I bet you didn't even get those karate trophies now. No, I guess not. Miata divorce Seagal right around this time. He and the Brock headed back to Hollywood in her Beverly Hills mansion. Now he wasn't a movie star. At this point, he was just sort of living with a movie star as part of his quest to get famous his house DOJ, Joe failed in the late nineteen eighties, leaving him desperate for cash in the words of Robert Strickland. According to Strickland, Stephen arranged for a mercenary. He knew to steal the Bronx Porsche Carrera for the insurance money. Mercenary. He knows a lot of mercenaries in interviews at the time. Go claim to be actively searching for the monster who had stolen his wife's car. It's pretty remarkable keeps going. I went in hating Steven Seagal. Now, I'm like now. Coming around. Now you're coming around this really wipe the stain of hard to kill out. Money problems were common with pre movies. Steven Seagal, multiple sources who knew him for years alleged to spy, that he seemed to have mysterious backers who would regularly help him out of his pickles and presumably helped him start his Doges in the first place. Two of his friends recalled a time when he left for around a week in return with a new car and quote, a stack of hundred dollar bills. Six inches high. Yeah, I bet he someone for money. Well, that is what he claimed Seagal brag that he'd gotten the money for pulling off a hit for the mop, like he confessed a murder guy magazine to his friends. His friends later told by magazine spoiler alert about Seagal. None of his friends stays friends. He's maybe because he's a giant piece of shit that might have an effect. Whether or not he actually carried out a hit for the mob. Seagal spent years telling lies like this in order to craft an aura of danger, spy reported in nineteen Ninety-three that Seagal packs of forty five in his belt, not just loaded, but cocktail chambered. Some might think this tough others mealy credence since he's just as likely to shoot himself in the testicles as to drop an attacker. Now, in fairness to Seagal cocktail chambered or cocktail locked as a common way to carry a single action Colt nineteen eleven, which sounds like the gun he was carrying in more fairness. And in more accuracy, if you carry a cocktail unloaded, pistol of any kind in a belt without a holster you are asking me to get yourself shot in the crowd. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's dumb. It's a dumb thing to do. I'm wearing one right now. Got shot in the dick four times today at you lose track after a few, you know, but you save a lot of money on birth control. That's a great point. Male birth control is here and it is called dangerously carrying a loaded handgun in your pants. So Stephen supposed history as a bad ass was not invented out of whole cloth throughout his life. He's had numerous friendships with former c. a. operatives, mercenaries and soldiers. Spy suggests that this is because he basically just steals these people stories and release them during interviews to seem like a bad ass quote on one occasion, one at Seagal students a former green beret was talking about his time in Lao later Seagal told the same story to another group only now he had become the protagonist, unfortunately, the green beret was in this group. Makita remembers the soldier saying, hey, idiot, that's my story. Busted. Three quick chops if Akito speaking of Akito you know what flips and throws hunger. Radio's play, but it actually is time for us to have a normal ad break. Imagine that I made a comment that tied Akito into whatever ads come up next. Hi, I'm Robert Evans hosted behind the bastards in my eyes suck. I've been wearing contacts. I was eight and it's never been easier for me to get new context that when I started using simple contacts, you just go online. If your prescriptions out of date, you can take an online. 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Most of us know Stephen for his roles as an action hero with an acting career that was launched his Los Angeles dough. Joe in the late eighties where he taught martial arts to the legs of Sean Connery, James Coburn, and the famed talent agent. Michael Ovitz fun fact, he broke Sean Connery's wrist when they were sparring, not too bad. Well, I mean, yeah, I guess it's a sign of clumsiness. You probably shouldn't break students wrist. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, at least didn't shoot his dick off. He didn't shoot Sean Connery's dick off, which I'm sure a lot of people are grateful for. Eight out of ten day for even this better day than most. Quote, it was Mr. Ovitz who paved the way for Stephen Biko, right and star in his first and hugely successful action film above the law in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. It's good movie. It's a good movie. These story for how he came to be in it is a little bit more complicated than Stevens. Chagall's website gives an involves a lot more of the mob. Of course it does. Would you have guessed before this that Stevens a goals career was bankrolled at the start by the mafia? Yes. Where the, I guess, the Japanese mafia, whatever. You know, the American mafia. No good has ever lead that Steven Seagal doing anything. No, I would. I would say that's a problem fair. So let's let's hear about how we got into above the lot. We're talking about the law. We're talking above the law. Yes, we're definitely talking about the think. I think the blood Bank that we just had a real wind. Fantastic. Okay. It is almost certainly true that Michael Ovitz arranged for Seagal to meet with a group of Warner Brothers executives to show off his Akito skills. He was apparently quite impressive Warner Brothers president, Terry Semel recalled with just a toss of his hand. Stephen Woodson the other guy, flying. It was pretty astounding. Mark Makita participated in this demonstration. He ran a DOJ in Los Angeles and basically agreed to be tossed around with the help of his friend. He said in later in an interview quote, I still can't believe those guys at Warners didn't know it was a rehearsal administration. It shouldn't have fooled anybody Seagal could not toss me or anyone else in the air and less we were in on it if I get up here for a second. Sure. If you watch Kito demonstration, it usually is one dude in the center of like a crowd, and they run at them one at a time and he'll like do a little thing with their wrist and they'll go flying into a front flip. It's clearly bullshit. Yeah. And we've now had you know, three decades of emanate in our country in many more in in Brazil and Japan and no one has ever gone in there as an Akito expert said like, this is me I'm in a Kito guy and they come in and he flips them all around. It just simply doesn't work. There's no record of Akita working on someone who doesn't want Kito to work on them. Yeah, the what a way of her it described and you know, our listeners don't know who you are. You have a lot of experience in this world. I wrote a few UFC games, you know, big fan of the sport training ju jitsu in Thai, like I like the stuff a lot. I think about this stuff a lot and like everyone else in one thousand nine hundred eighty. When you have si, I came, I kept expecting some magic Taichi guy to come down in the mountains or a Kito guy to come out or Jeet Kundu Guida to lock everybody's hands up and beat them with compass, and it just never happens like these traditional martial arts have sort of been proven bullshit. They're great ways to stay fit and have fun with your doesn't explain the size of Seagal. No, that's true. I think it's a good place to like leave a kid for an hour. -solutely in my point is stories of Akihito, devastating, Yuccas a members, it's unlikely. Yeah. And if you grab a guy by the rest and he does a front flip, he probably didn't mind doing that front flip so much. He's helping you out. It was a consensual flip, right? Yeah, as opposed to the nonconsensual flips, which I think are more useful in a fight. I'm not an expert, I would say so. Okay. All this, you know, Steven Seagal is a big fraudulent sort of exhibition where he tossed around. His friend wasn't enough to convince the WB executives to drop fifty thousand dollars on a screen test which shows you what money means in Hollywood. The screen set test was apparently an absolute disaster Seagal had no charisma, talked like whispering goats. Let sounds like him. Sounds like Steven Seagal. That's how you would describe him. Yeah, whispering ghost. I have no charisma, my head stores, one triangle. Does have a weird. Ovitz appeared to really love Stephen though because he continued to out for this kid that he just met. So Warner Brothers was like this kid's no good. We're not gonna, put him in a movie. We already wasted fifty grand on it. So Ovitz his last job before starting to work with Seagal is he had done like the casting for lethal weapon, which obviously gigantic hit. So they wanted them back for lethal weapon two. Clearly, he's good at casting, and he agreed not to take a pay bump, which you're guaranteed for a job like that. A sizable paid bump. If you're working in the sequel, he agreed to work for what he'd gotten paid to make the first one if they would give Steven Seagal shop. Okay. So Michael Ovitz really fucking believed in Steven Seagal, or at least that's one possibility here. It's possible that Ovitz just saw something in Steven Seagal. It's also possible that the Gauls career was bankrolled by the mafia from day. One in that Ovitz was maybe bribed. I don't know. I've never heard any allegations ov-. It's was bribed. Maybe he just loved him, but there are credible allegations that Steven Seagal started his crew in the mafia. People do get like a sort of a cult like love for their martial arts instructor. Like if you go in cold as an adult, especially in like start taking like karate classes, you'd be like, oh my God, my karate instructor can meditate with one thing that he can knock you out mean like that's just sort of becomes norm. He's just staying at the strip mall because he's to enlighten to work somewhere. This guy might have just thought that Steven Seagal truly was match. Then that is entirely possible. I'm glad you brought that up because I wouldn't have thought about that. We do know that in nineteen ninety Steven Seagal formed steamroller entertainment with a guy named Julius NASO. Now, Nassau's main business was providing pharmaceuticals to merchant boats, but he broken. Masud to merchant boats, hey, so trucks. In nineteen Eighty-four though Julius got into filmmaking and he claimed to spy that he'd been introduced to Segovia Tony danza danza denied this tens new who Nassau's was in basically said he's no fucking friend of mine. Don't don't talk to be about that guy. So Seagal told people that NASA and he were related. Although neither here or NASO ever gave any detail as to how Steven's mother denied any relation between them whatever the truth. Julius is unable also named Julius NASO owned a concrete company in New York in one thousand nine hundred five revealed that Nassau's concrete firm participated in a bid rigging scheme with Anthony Salerno the original fat, Tony. That's where the name comes from on the Simpsons Tony Salerno several employees testified against him NASA. The younger in Seagal. We're good friends for about a decade. NASA was the best man at Seagal second wedding. He was also the co owner of goals, five hundred and sixty thousand dollars Staten Island home. It's worth noting that several other mob guys connected to the Gambino family wound up having roles into goals, early films. Quote from that spy article, one of the technical advisors on the set of under siege was Robert booth Nichols who has been identified in federal wiretaps as associated with the Gambino crime family, a retired navy captain named Joseph. John who was technical advisor in the same movie responsible for securing the use of the USS Missouri. Describe Seagal Nichols as asshole buddies, which I think's means, but buddies and not both Astles who are friends, but I can't tell. Yeah, I've never heard the term doesn't mean they have sex with each other and might. I don't know. I don't know this martinis and get all loud together. As. So another performer in a Seagal film, Jerry Sierra is the step son of a mafia cap. Oh, Robert sombody who reportedly got Seagal to give his stepson apart in out for Justice. Seagal hired cri who has emissions to be a movie star to play a bookmaker in a key scene. Sigo beats the number of bad guys in the bar. The one varmint who never takes a punch of CRA no way. Seagal was going to take a swing at bobby's ams kid. Spy was told. Suspicion, Steven Seagal scene, and you didn't get punched in the face the mongrel mob in. Yeah, yeah. Even weirder than all this is the fact that during a nineteen Ninety-three deposition for a civil assault case which I could not find more detail about, but I, I don't think he was the one being charged, but he was deposed in the civil assault case. Seagal under oath claimed not to know how much money he had, what he actually owned or what he was paid per movie. His attorney explained that Seagal did not have an individual contract with Warner Brothers. Instead Warner Brothers had a contract with Seagal and his friend NASO at times some of the money pay disag- all winter in an ASO. So that is a little weird. That's a little weird. Your movie deal is with another guy who has mob ties and he gets some of your money in no one seems to know quite why is his agent is now? No, they owned a production company together asshole buddy his asshole, but Astle buddy. Yeah. So in the early nineteen nineties, Julius NASA stirred walking around l. a. with a card saying he was Warner Brothers producer, so it it seems. I wonder others might. Have given him some title on some that, but it's also like they refuse to talk about this at all. So who knows what happened? Spy interviewed him and he claimed that he would be handling foreign distribution for the movie. Thank for under siege. Great movie. Yeah, great movie, the interviewers. It's by thought this was off since WB at the time had the largest foreign distribution system of any Hollywood studio. One brothers refused to comment. So NASA explained because of my experience in the drug business, I had contacts all over the world, which is why he was the right man to help sell this movie or sees. Yeah, boy, high sailors, man. They really like undersea, hey, I've always said, if you can get sailor side, you can sell movies overseas, especially about a navy chef that kicks ass. Okay. So at that time in nineteen Ninety-three this is about all that spy new, but in the decades since nineteen Ninety-three a lot more information has come out. It turns out that NASA was an associate of the Gambino crime family, and he loaned Seagal at least half a million dollars of their money Seagal claims. It was for taxes when Seagal NASA had a falling out around two thousand Soglo was forced into a meeting with several mobsters where they demanded one hundred and fifty thousand dollars per movie. He'd made. So here's a quote from a two thousand to New York Times article on the matter Steven Seagal the action film stars cited as a mafia extortion. Target has told investigators that after he stopped working with his longtime producer, he was ordered into a car in Brooklyn last year and shuttled to a landmark restaurant where he was threatened by mobsters according to officials and lawyers involved. In the case, he was so intimidated. He recounted that he agreed to turn over seven hundred thousand, although investigators are still trying to trace the money I would do if I was in a car with all those mobsters in. I knew Akito fucking Kito everybody in the car. Just you can't throw someone in a car. I think it worked really well in those close quarters. They try. Try to punch and you like snapshot slap, chop booking, movies have taught me the liquid human all over the cars blooding. Into the river. Well, my favorite out of the water like twenty minutes later. That's how long I hold my breath. I was sucking their out of their dead lungs that whole time Akio. You should direct the Steven Seagal my anything about this is that some of these guys who are doing the meeting were tapped, and so the FBI listened into them laughing about intimidating, Steven Seagal, and the thing they thought was funniest is that he had a gun but was too scared to do anything. Stephen, they're just laughing at him. They just think Larry has said he was thinking about Steven Seagal. Has you really get a? He buys into his own bullshit. Yeah. And after something like that, like he's got a rethink like three decades worth of that. Bullshit. He's living under like, am I really oppose? I'm going to correct you there. I don't think Steven Seagal has ever reform anything in that situation. Then lucky I didn't do my key to pull my gun takes real bed has to get into a situation like that with only seven hundred thousand dollars in spending knowing expect me to be my pants eighth street. Oh, so Steven Seagal in court claimed that these guys were basically just as business partners in the mob extorted him. It sure seems like what really happened is that the Gambino crime family through NASO invested in Seagal in the hopes that they could cash in on a long and successful action movie career, which the joke was a little bit on. A little too late there, whatever the truth behind his start nineteen Eighty-eight ago became the hottest new action hero on the block and was on his way to becoming a massive star. Gary Goldman, an ex mercenary was one of the bad Esa Seagal like to surround himself with for a while. They were working on a script together and Seagal had Goldman vouch for him in interviews in one interview with the LA times, Goldman claimed that Seagal had gone with him, quote on several missions and that he has a high level of skill that you don't just pick up reading, fantasy magazines. I don't think anyone question his capabilities. Mercenaries they take dudes who just read fantasy magazines with them and they're like, damn it. Another one of these fantasy magazines guys, I really should've learned not to bring random people or my scenario emissions. Getting magic spells on this mission? No, this is a real life, not fantasy magazine. Well, my only expertise, it's fantasy magazines. I've cut out these little lightening bolt thing that we've, we gotta get that Steven Seagal guy back. What he's doing well. Okay. So so. So full disclosure about a year after this point, Seagal Goldman had a falling out and Seagal backed out of their plan to write a movie. So Goldman wrote a letter to the same journalists at the l. a. times he'd lied to a year earlier and recanted he said, quote, the plain truth of the matter is that Seagal wasn't is a gutless coward who is trying to convert the heroic deeds of those brave men into personal history for himself. Yeah, among other things, Goldman's letter claimed that in nineteen eighty eight. He in Seagal had gone treasure hunting near bar betas with Randy Whitney while they were all hanging out on a boat Seagal brag repeatedly about his time as a navy seal which do even need to say. He was never a navy seal, wasn't a navy. Absolutely not. At one point, Stephen and Goldman had to wait into the water to deliver equipment to zodiac boat, which is like a real bad ass. Cool thing like a real cool person might have been able to handle Steven. Seagal was not. Here's how Goldman said it went quote. The surf was unbelievable, really tough. He started screaming and panicking was sure he was going to die and all that Goldman claims that Randy wydner had to pulsa gall up by his hair while well, Goldman quote pushed his ass onto the boat with my shoulder. Well, the one thing I know about navy seals is when you get him like in rough water, they just freaked the fucking, oh, yeah. No, they're training is to panic and water. Israel would make showdown corona beach, but. It's lovely, and you can watch the planes land, but there's the sound of all those navy seals. Just me just panic. Doing good works panic, a little harder. He'll be the best. You really wanna lose your mind yet as young recruit, Steven Seagal, we're gonna have ourselves. We're going to send you to the desert. So we want you scared of the. Oh. Did they have special circumstances just to your ABC? Well, here's the water and he just fucks it up no badly. It doesn't. Even in their later, became clear that go could not read a compass or a map things. The navy seal that would have come to stress kind of important in his letter to the l. a. times Goldman said Seagal quote would surely die of starvation. If he was given a compass and a map that led to a restaurant five miles away. That's that's some good like bad ass way to call someone that's some solid mercenary ragging. Goldman smack talking prompted Seagal to take action. He called up his friend, Robert Strickland, the former contract employees with the CIA ahead of meat on the set of a movie. He was filming on deadly ground as the sadness. As they said in his trailer, Seagal handed Strickland dossier he'd had compiled on Goldman and then showed him a briefcase with fifty thousand dollars in it. According to Strickland, he said this, I'd like you to do me a favor. I'd like you to kill Gary Goldman. Now I should note Mr.. Seagal was thirty eight years old at this point and in the prime of his career, Robert Strickland was a sixty eight year old retiree who was a good foot shorter than him. Strickland claims. His first response was your crazy to which Seagal responded. If you don't do it, get someone who will pay him what you want and keep the rest. This would not be the last time. Steven Seagal tried to pay to have somebody hurt what you want is a long paper trail when you when you wanna SAS innate someone, yeah, yeah, outsource it and then have them outsource it that way. It's easier to get away with when lots of people know about it. The more documentation you have these crimes is absolutely better. No, I think most criminals would agree with that in the summer of nineteen Ninety-one. A writer named Alan Rickman not the actor kinda messed me up for a second to wrote an article about Seagal for gentlemen's quarterly. It was not complimentary Seagal flew in intelligence analyst who his Staten Island home to help him dig up dirt on the writer. Quote from spy Seagal tells the consultant. Rickman is gay a fag. In the actor's words, he wants Rickman set up with a homosexual, quote, two pictures of Rickman going down on the man. When security refuse Seagal asked what it would cost to have a hypothetical man wacked when the consultant replied, wacked dead Seagal said, of course. You people do that all the time. What what if you were Rickman mask? And I suck your dick. I did word part about this is that like in an television interview, he lied about the other man's height and he called him a Panzi, even the Rickles an army captain who was also taller than Steven Seagal even. He's. He's dammit Stephen, he might be generically incapable of telling the truth. It's really hard to say, Bob Strickland that former CIA contractor seems to have been one of the people who put up with the goals bullshit for the longest amount of time Seagal actually paid Strickland. Fifty thousand dollars of a two hundred and fifty thousand dollar deal for his life story. Strickland thought this meant that go was going to make a movie about him, but it actually just meant that's goal. One of the right to lie about his own life until stories from Strickland's life when he was interviewed. So one night Strickland was watching the Arsenio hall show install a Steven Seagal telling a story from Strickland's own life. That's an amazing interview to the way. Yeah. He gets all Darfur and he's like, I think he's talking about Kelly Le Brock and how like she was misbehaving and he's like my house, my rules a real window into the darkness that is inside that man. Well, if I was not a hacking of fraud, I would have seen that one. I was too busy reading about Steven Seagal. So Strickland who got really angry when he heard his own stories being told by Steven Seagal. So yeah, he called Stephen, a bunch of times lift a bunch of angry messages. And Stevens response was essentially to threaten Strickland which prompted the former CA a contractor to file a sworn affidavit in the Burbank superior court quote on December eleventh nineteen Ninety-one. Steven Seagal said to me in my attorneys presence, if anybody from the FOX with me, they will be hurt. He claimed he was backed by very powerful people more power from the more powerful in the CIA shitting no pains. No, yeah. Yeah. I mean, for instance, CIA he's one of those non swimming navy sees the deadliest kind in if you want to hear something that's even better than a navy seal who can't swim, then these sponsors, it's an ad break. Yes, the sponsors. I'm Joey back again with inside the studio iheartradio's original podcast featuring intimate conversations with some of music's biggest stars. This time around we decamped to Winnipeg to catch up with an upstart named Paul McCartney, Sir. Paul touches on everything from the Beatles onstage volume wars to the making of his new album. Egypt station on capitol records is what was children, George of whom about who would I'm allowed they degree. Okay. Look, let's put it at seven in you. 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He stated that my safety could be in jeopardy because Steven Seagal is backed by powerful people who have vested interest in preserving his image and reputation, which might have been true at that point entirely honest like he may not have been lying about that Seagal quickly followed the success of nineteen eighty eight's above the law, which was his first film with three more action hits hard to kill marked for death and offer Justice. Yeah, yeah. His career peaked in nineteen Ninety-two with under siege, or I think ninety three with under siege. I if that up, but he's pretty big star in nineteen ninety one when he was invited to host an episode of Saturday Night Live not not the greatest success in the history of that show. It might be maybe in a way it might be. It depends on how much enjoyment you get out of this next anecdote. So in the book life from New York, which is a history of the show, several cast members chimed in about the week. Steven Seagal was the host, Tim meadows. The biggest problem with Steven Seagal was that he would complain about jokes that he didn't get. So it was like, you can't explain something to somebody in German if they don't speak German, he just wasn't funny and he was very critical of the cast and the writing staff. He didn't realize that you can't tell somebody they're stupid on Wednesday and expect them to continue writing for you on Saturday. So people that gave him intentionally bad shit because they hated him. I think so. I think that that's part of the explanation. David Spade said, quote, he didn't want to go along with what the plan was that week. And as a result, I think that was the first week that I heard talk about replacing the host and just doing cast Joe. Yeah. And then Julia Sweeney when we pitched our ideas for Seagal at our Monday meeting, he gave us some of his own sketch ideas and some of his sketch ideas were so heinous. So hilariously awful. It was like we, we're on candid camera. He had this idea that he's a therapy. And he wanted to toria Jackson to be his patient who's just been raped. And the therapist says, you're going to have to come to me twice a week for like three years because he said, that's how therapists fucking are. They're just trying to get your money. Then he says, the psychiatrist tries to have sex with her that Steven Seagal idea of comedy. That's so weird. It will not be weird. Later in the story will actually make total sense in about thirty. I'm gonna comedy writer for many, many years now, and I'm seriously racking my brain how to get to a place of comedy from such a dark premise. No, there's no punchline anywhere in in that description. And I don't think there was a punchline in the kit. If you had nine hours to build the context for this, I don't think you can make that like funny funny. No. And I do think it's important to note that nightmare. I suspect that force ago the punchline was the psychiatrist tries to rape his patient. I think that was his idea. That was the joke next, great. The you ready for this. It's a salt. It's horrible. Sexual assault victim. It's like poetry ties back to the beginning. Oh God. He would've said that he absolutely would have competitive poetry, and then he fucking crowded out through the table. Vanished in a puff of flour cloud in two thousand fourteen when guests nNcholas cage expressed a worry to learn Michaels that he would be quote the worst host ever Lorne, Michaels reportedly said, no, that would be Steven Seagal. Yeah, he's one of the only people ever banned from being on Saturday Night Live ever ever ever ever again. Joke on Sarah, live Lorne Michaels coming out and saying like, none other worst houses see Seagal, but there was something real about it. Yeah. No. I mean, it sounds like he was terrible. There's another story. I think it was rob Schneider who saw Steven Seagal like walked up to vincit. I just finished reading the best screenplay in my life and Schneider was like, oh, yeah, who wrote it? And he was like me and it was not a joke. Oh my God, Steven Seagal. A dream setup for that answer though. 'cause like if you said, oh, I made the screenplay most people like, oh, what's it about? Yeah. But he asked who the writer was to perfectly setup. Steven Seagal sale. Me. I'm going to guess he knew that should be the team. Schneider's scratch. Should've mentioned Naidoo. Oh my God. Oh my God. I would throw my own money and productive that film. Yeah, especially if all of the bad guys are Seagal and Snyder love it, like some sort of a time loop made it. So every person that universe was Sigala Schneider. Yeah, I'm not saying they're in makeup. It's like really? Really that you commit to the premise? Yeah, at Hollywood, see the phone. This isn't as bearing idea. Idea of the sex assault victim, the therapist that's a dead end. That's a dead end. Don't pursue that. Hider and Seagal. Yeah, that's at least a skit. Let's new podcast. After this. We'll save it for that story board the whole thing. Yeah. So you remember like actually way less than twenty minutes ago when I said that him wanting to make the joke be entirely about sexual assault. That would make sense very soon. Yeah, it's about to make sense. Thank God. Yeah. So the early nineties, we're a time of great professional success Steven Seagal and they were also when he began his career as a sexual predator. I mean, maybe he began an earlier, but we certainly know about assaults dating back to the early nineties. The signs were already present as early as nineteen ninety. When Robert Strickland watched Seagal harass one of his personal assistance, she was brushing her teeth in his trailer. Winnick went into Strickland. Seagal told her that she needed to get over there immediately when she came out still brushing her teeth. He said, gee, Rian you look like that. And when I come in your mouth, some more Steven Seagal humor there. That is the absence romantic relationship before that. No stricklin the former CIA guy who I'm going to guess was a pretty course fellow thought this was gross, I think. Yeah. Profoundly gross growth? Yeah. So earlier this year, Juliana Margulis of the good wife was a guest on the Katie corks podcast. They talked about the metoo movement and Margulis recalled an unsettling encounter with Seagal in the early nineteen nineties. He was a big action star at that point, and she was still quite new when a casting director told her that Stephen wanted to do a scene with her in his room. Quote, I walked in and I sat down and I jumped right back up because there was something very uncomfortable in hard in the couch. He laughed and said, oh, sorry, that must have been my gun Margulis recalled. He lifted up the cushion, and he took out his gun when Margulis grew noticeably nervous Seagal explain that he casually packed to protect himself from quote all the crazies that are out there. If your guns in the couch, you're the crazy, I think you might be right. Yeah, that's not where the gun goes. Not in the couch. So if you've got company coming over, why are you leave your gun on the couch? He wanted to find it? Yeah. To find it what kind of a person thinks like turn the good on almost dying. I don't think turning her on was maybe it was, was he trying to terrify? Maybe the thing that he did next in this interaction was tell her that he was a healer and then he wanted to read her poems. So maybe he was trying to real shitty game. Yeah. Quote, he told me I had really weak kidneys at that point to be honest as a New York girl. I kind of started laughing inside. So shortly thereafter, Mongolia said she squirmed out of the room, but then realised that she hadn't received the cab fare she'd been promised. So she went back and asked for the cash as well as the part in out for Justice. Although she demanded she never be alone with Seagal onset, so not to diminish it. But this is a rather tame story to compared to the stories of many of the other women's who've reported their interactions with Steven. If you had better kidneys. Steven Seagal is out for kidneys. In nineteen Ninety-six. John Connolly. The author of that spy article wrote another article about Seagal this time for penthouse in it. He alleged that four female staffers had resigned from the production of his film out for Justice in protest of his constant sexual harassment and quote, a sexual attack on one of them. They claim Seagal tried to address them during casting interviews. One stated when I was finally able to get him to stop. He told me I had the part. So that does seem to be. Modus operandi. Another woman claims Seagal would constantly brush pass women in his office and touch them. His former housekeeper Leah Bumgarner claims to Gaul sexually attacked her while she was working at his house. She did plead guilty to stealing from him later. Maybe. I mean, I could also see Stevenson crimes. I think hers is way more minor. Yeah, a little more minor. In fact, stealing from a rich guy. Barely qualified describing qualifies as a crime Connolly talked to six women in total accused the gall of harassment. They would not be the last. He stated in the article that the code of silence around Seagal thuggish behavior is starting to crack shatter would be more apt term in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. Jenny McCarthy talked movie line about her audition for the classic film under siege to a sequel to Seagal biggest hit in one of the first real clear signs that his career was already passed. In fact, he out runs an explosion in that movie, which is impossible because a Steven Seagal actually, he runs like. Ah, woman waking up in a bathtub covered in snakes. That's a good description of Steven Seagal and I've, I've written a lot of runs light jokes in my career, and I think that might be the most evocative he is you yourself to look up Steven Seagal running on YouTube because he has never managed to run like a normal person. He liked tuxes elbows in and he kind of has like limp wrists, and he keeps the elbows tucked in tight and he, he sort of wiggles through the air in. It's like scurry. Marry in these movies, and you look at Tom Cruise, and she's got beautiful form his Tom Cruise until he spent twenty foot long jump. When he ends that run and the Steven Seagal I, it's like a hamster getting electrified well, and it's one of those things you talk to people. I've talked to someone who does firearms training for movies like his job is to helping movie stars, like learn how to use weapons and like do shooting and choreographed gunfights and stuff. And he says, and you can find this in other articles, like Tom Cruise is really good with a gun with all the physical stuff. He's done. Is really good at everything. Nobody says that about Steven Seagal. Nobody phrases his ability to do stunt. So in one thousand nine hundred eight McCarthy talked movie line. Yeah, about her audition for the classic film under stage two in which Steven Seagal at runs an explosion. Here's what she said happened. I was wearing this very baggy dress, which I always wear to audition with my hair pulled back. I'm listening to go on and on about how he found his soul in Asia, and it was one with himself or whatever. And I said, well, I'm ready to read. He said, standup you'd have to be kind of sexy in the movie. And in that dress, I can't tell I stand up and he goes, take off your dress. I said, what? And he said, there's nudity. I said, no, there's not or I wouldn't be here right now. He said, again, there's nudity and I said, the notable fully closed woman. Well, she said the pages are right in front of me and there's nudity. She's writing to make this objection. I'm getting to it. He goes take off your dress. I just started crying and said, rent my playboy video. You asshole. Yeah, fair enough. Funny on single that I was not like hot girls way funnier than hot. I would like Unix. If it wasn't for advocating for not get vaccinated bad for the war and she certainly in the right here that she has more with than you'd expect? No, she's. As rent might play video Wetzel. No, she's she's got a great response. Her recollection of the events is really good. When the Daily Beast questions ago spokesman about this. He said, the claim was completely false in I should note several times so we don't get sued. Steven Seagal denies any Costa him. Any of the many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, the Washington Post says, there are too many allegations of salt and harassment account too many to count the Washington Post rate counters on staff, and they have great. They have hope, people scientists. Yeah. So there's no nice segue here. It's about to get really dark so buckle up, delicious flavor of no. This is not the time for that in nineteen Ninety-three when Steven Seagal was filming one of his most popular movies on deadly ground. He met an eighteen year old extra named Regina Simmons. He invited her to a wrap party at his house when she showed up. No one else was there. Yeah, regular listeners will remember this as the same basic strategy used by Bill Cosby on several occasions. Telomeres a party. It seems to be a pretty common Hollywood creep strategy. Yeah, Regina says he told her everyone else had already left, and then he took her into his bedroom quote. He closed the door and approached me from behind. He started kissing my neck and taking off my clothes. I was in shock. I was completely caught off guard. Seagal was more than twice my size and twice my age. I was not sexually active nor had ever been naked in front of a man before I froze. She alleges that Seagal raped her. She says, there was nothing consensual about this. I couldn't move. And I felt as if I was watching my body from above, I felt tears coming down my face. Yeah, when's ago was done? He asked her if she needed any money and then allowed her to leave. He called her the next day money. I don't know what actually is going. I, it is a good question. What is going on in Steven? Seagal said, because I seriously think he probably doesn't think of himself. He kept calling this this woman. I don't think he thinks of them since. Really well. Yeah, I don't know. I like not that that mitigates at all because he seems to be a monster, but I think that is part of his psychology in this. Now, this story came out in March of last year after several women among them Portuga Dila Rossi from arrested development alleged even Seagal being a creepy sexual harasser. There was a whole press conference when Regina came out in another woman was there to support her fabulous. Data's she edition for a pardon as of yet unprovoked vanity project with Steven Seagal about Genghis Kahn which was supposed to write direct and star in Gingas Kahn. He was gone yet is the dark story, so I don't want to get lost in this, but that may be the only produced vanity project. I do kinda wanna say. Data said her initial meetings with Seagal, took place in public and didn't give her any cause for concern. The two bonded over shared interests like Buddhism and martial art. She said and quote soon developed a friendly relationship via text and phone calls at one point Seagal invited data's for a private audition. She said, he explained to me that he would like to evaluate my figure and see if I would be suitable for the role. His assistant told me to arrive wearing a bikini or abroad panties under my clothing as this is quite standard in the modeling industry. I agreed to do so now Dennis noticed some strange things right off the bat for one Seagal at Astra to meet in the evening at a hotel that he had booked quote. I was taken up to goals room by his assistant who repeated to me multiple times in the elevator Stevens word is as good as gold. I thought this was a bit strange, but I did not comment when she arrived only Stephen and his bodyguard were in the room. The assistant who'd led her there immediately left. Stephen asked me to take off my clothes which I did, although I was nervous considering there were no other individuals present and do a catwalk through the room for him. I did. So in Stephen approached me and said that he would like to act out a romantic scene to get a sense of our chemistry. Data's told him that she was in comfortable with this and said, no, that's when she alleges ago reach into her bikini top and groped her while fondling her vagina. With his other hand, she yelled at the idea was over Stephen sat there calmly as if nothing had happened while I was noticeably upset and terrified by the experience Stevens security guards stood blocking the doorway and only moved when Stephen motion for him to do. So I left feeling horrified and totally violated. Steven Seagal there is lawyer denies both of these allegations. Dude silk gross, but then to have like a security guard there too. Yeah. Creepiest thing you're gonna stand you in watch. I think it really helper like feel more. He's if there's a weird dude watching your would if there's a giant Geist. Yeah. Well, I like groper. I'm gonna move fast. So like I just want you to stand there and be weird, which it's one of those things. There's always in these stories of Hollywood, sexual predators. So many people complicit the assistant has to say on this is not Steven Seagal in his prime when some of them, I think maybe a young actress wants to meet this, handsome guy like this is someone knowing something creepy is going to go on. This is my paycheck, so I'm just gonna soldier. There's other jobs you can take people don't rape yet. You know what I mean? Yes. I never worked at a place where someone's trying some rape out near me. Yeah. Yeah, you work your right? So that you're who with this rape, you understand this is just how can goes works. Shirt need this. Just block the door in case anyone tries to make a run for it. This is a really bad time for an Ed segue. Disastrous Kinko. Kinko's is not a supporter of the podcast, so I really don't care what you do to them feeling about Steven Seagal sushi. It's a little little grocer like these intimate details of this type of action is what's like, it's easy to say like this guy, he's a attempted rapists, fuck that guy, but then when you like learn these little details. Yeah. So gross that some woman headed, like, explain that this is exactly what happened. I should say we're back, but I think we've been back since the start of this conversation. It's it's remarkable to me. I guess one of the things that can never stop thinking about because I like watching old movies is like you look at like Humphrey Bogart and screen who like, did you assault somebody bogey. Probably right? Yeah, probably, yeah. I don't know. I've never heard anything about that, but you just see how many of these guys did something fucked up. Even Bowie has some dark stuff in his background, and it's like not like this. Nothing like this, but like some stuff that's questionable anyway. It's a bummer. And there is something about like celebrity that I think Jackson game up. Yeah. One of the things that's confusing about this to me is I've read a lot of allegations from various. We're not going to cover every allegation spinning in stevensville again as the Washington Post said, there are too many to count. There are a number of allegations where he will do creepy stuff. He will grow up someone clearly against their will, but they will say, no, that they don't want sex and he will. He will let them leave, which makes me think in his head Steven Seagal I, I don't know, like against just like going for it. Yeah, I don't want to mitigate, but I'm certain. He doesn't think of himself as a rapist which again, I believe the women in this case because for one thing there are too many allegations to count, which is usually the first sign that it's true. So, yeah, back in March is when those two latest allegations, including one of straight up rate where filed against Steven Seagal not the first time allegations have been made, but the first time in the me too era, for sure. There were allegations against even Seagal started back in the nineties, early two, thousands, and then read after metoo kicked up. People started talking about them again. And of course these two women came forward in March, but in January, Steven Seagal decided that he wanted to get ahead of the sexual assault rumors and really deal with the problem in a proactive manner. Can you guess what media outlet he chose to talk to? I bet it was the info wars. Yes, Steven Seagal shit up on Infowars in January of two thousand eighteen. He told Alex Jones that the many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many women who'd made claims against him were paid, liars has deep pockets quote. This isn't just about me because hundreds of people in Hollywood have been attacked and hundreds of people have been in my opinion, falsely accused my opinion is that sixty percent of these people are completely innocent. And that includes me in most of these cases, the accusations are twenty twenty five thirty years old. They're not providing evidence or proof of witnesses. Just throwing it out and all of a sudden somebody's life is ruined. I bet he really thinks this. Yeah, when people say it's a witch hunt, it's worse than any other witch hunt in America's ever seen. This is ruining our country is worse than the time we burned people to death. In the time we burn witches. He's he's the real victim here. He is the real victim and I'm never not excited by how many times terrible people's lives intersect. Alex Jones is the of course, of course, they wear end up talking to each other. How could they have not? How could the world have allowed to wonder? Like when say you buy your own bullshit like and you meet someone like Alex Jones, who's also full of shit like, yeah, do they completely believe all of the other guys bullshit? Does that like start to create like this bullshit spiral where like they start just like unnecessary should Steve's. A goal believes in may just be a matter of like Alex Jones knows the Steven Seagal talk about his time as a navy seal that didn't. I can talk about all the bad stuff. I've done the globalist train kill me and stuff. Yeah, Alex Jones. As we like to win fights against men. When I was a trial, Stephen allowed to be like, I know you're Fulla shit, or is he like, I can't pretend like I know you're Fulla shit because that would admit that I understand the limits of this absurdity. The it's mutually assured destruction as applied to lies. I love it. Shameless lies. It is remarkable. So Steven Seagal's career peaked around nineteen Ninety-three nineteen ninety four by the year two thousand. He'd had a string of flops and was no longer considered in the same tier of action star. Bruce Willis, if that was ever a fair thing saying that he was, he was like a JEAN CLAUDE van Damme contemporary, but his films were like, didn't have as much joy or fun. And the weren't as like adventurous, I guess, yeah. And we've seen to Stevens a Gomez. You've seen all every Steven Seagal movie is one of those things. When when John Claude van Damme came back into j. c. d. couple years ago, everyone was like, oh, yeah, I'd like to watch John Claude van Damme insure. Nobody feels that way about Steven Steven Seagal junk lemon Dame is a classic movie star. Yeah. And the early two thousands began. The start of a long sharp decline for Steven Seagal from movie theater releases to direct to video release to eventually direct to digital. Production, right? Which is kind of where he is now. And if you've seen a recent Steven Seagal movie, it's a heavy set elderly man pulling guns out of people's hands and try not to move to write a bunch of catwalks in eastern European, really dark lighting. Yeah. So, yeah, the thousands definitely marked the Indus Steven Seagal career as a serious action movie star, but they also marked the start of something else. Something we're going to get into in part two of this podcast, Steven Seagal twin careers as a blues musician cop. Well, I should say three careers because in addition to being a blues musician and aqap, he's an alleged human trafficker. So. All that more and part two. John, do you have any plug Ables that you would like to plug? I'm easy to find on Twitter search Sean baby. I still read jokes at cracked. Play calculates on your mobile devices? Yes, play calculates on your mobile devices. You'll get some of Sean babies signature humour, great jokes, great way to teach math listeners should know Sean baby essentially invented comedy on the internet and was might legally be true. Yeah. What was one of like the three or four people? That is a big part of why I got into this industry. So I didn't tell you that until now because I wanted us to have emotional resonance. Unlike Steven Seagal movie, pay someone to prove we could do it better. What a perfect button on a perfect episode. You can find me on Twitter at I right. Okay. You can find us on Instagram and on Twitter. This podcast at fast pot, and you can find us online along with some really sad pictures of Steven Seagal behind the pastor dot com. And all of the mini sources for this episode. If you've been wondering what would it be like if I spent sixteen hours reading about Steven Seagal life and times. Very gave me. 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Charles Addams, Part 1

"I'm Joe Levy and this time around inside the studio, we sit with Sir, Paul McCartney he gives us some new Beatles tails and also tells us about the making of his brand. New album Egypt station on capitol records is was Jovan George Ogden about who would have his amp loudest list, put it at seven new. Just see George John notice for more great conversations like this search and follow inside the studio on iheartradio her subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, everybody before we get started with this episode, we have one last live show to announce for twenty eighteen. We will be in New Orleans, Louisiana at the national World War t- museum on Tuesday, November six, okay. We know that's election day. We don't want coming to our show to keep you from the polls. We are both gonna vote early before we leave for New Orleans and Louisiana offers early voting as well. So we encourage you to do so you can find out more about this show and get a link to buy tickets at missed in history dot com. Tom slash tour. We'll come to stuff you missed in history class from how stuff works dot com. Hello and welcome to the podcast. I'm Holly fry and I'm Tracy Wilson. Tracy, I have to ask you a question right out of the gate. I'm putting you on the spot. Okay. The Addams family or the munsters. Oh, man. So when I was a kid, I loved the Addams family most and I thought the monsters were a weird knockoff. That's not accurate. No, but the but that's valid to think that I will probably shock you by saying when I was a kid, I liked the munsters more really. I did it was not until I got older that I kind of switched it over. And I think I realized I was trying to figure out why that was. And I think it was an aspirational Gould umn where I could never be like the long willowy mortician, but I could probably pull off a lily. Sure like von decarlo with their little white stripe and her hair and shoes shorter at she had the fabulous route dress and the bat necklace. And so I think that was what it was, but I liked them both love them both. But today we are going to talk about Charles Adams who was the creator of the Addams family as a cartoon long before it was ever a TV series or films, etc. And Charles Adams was by all accounts, a really compelling figure. He visited cemeteries for fun, and he was a car enthusiast and he raced cars as an amateur, and he collected and shot crossbows and Alfred Hitchcock once just showed up on his doorstep with no advance warning hoping to meet him and saying when Charles Adams opened the door, I've just come to see you in your natural bailiwick, but Adams very likely surprised the filmmaker because he surprised a lot of people who thought they could Intuit, what the creator of the kinds of cartoons he made would be like. Because he was not an elusive, sort of proto Goth at all. He was in fact very dapper and sociable, and he was irreverent, but by all accounts, completely delightful to be around. And there is so much great stuff to his story that this is a two parter. So we have to talk about all of his good and bad qualities. And also I will just say that after doing all this research, if I build a time machine, my answer might have changed again because I just want to go back and maybe have cocktails Charles Adams. I think he be just a Superfund guy to hang out with. I also feel like this is an interesting not exactly counterpoint, but that's the word that I can think of to last halloween's. Edward Gorey episode. Yeah, they in terms of them both having sort of a Macab fascination in their work and having very distinctive personalities. Yeah, and it's interesting it. It doesn't come up in either of these episodes, but naturally people would ask him a little bit about gory and other artists as well cartoonists and and he always felt that and I'm paraphrasing based on stuff that I read that to him. He was just to Charles Adams. He just thought he was funny. He didn't really see himself necessarily as McCaw, but all were as he really thought that Edward Gorey had this insight into the darker side of humanity. And he was like, I stress funny stuff. Which is kind of interesting because a lot of his stuff, at least for the time it was very dark nowadays. It's probably considered pretty mild by comparison, but it has sort of a wonderful an unexpected nature of how it looks at the world and humanity, and that some people often found a little bit dark or a lot dark. Yeah. So we'll start at the beginning as we usually do. Charles Samuel Adams was born in Westfield, New Jersey on January seventh, nineteen twelve. His father, Charles Huey Addams had studied to be an architect, but then ended up working at a piano company. He worked his way up from a salesman to an executive, and he really traveled a lot. The young Charles's mother was grace m spear atoms, and he went by the name Charlie by all accounts. He was a very jolly baby and the Adamses had this blue eyed child a little late considering the time Grace's in her thirties when he was born and they really just treasured him, there's a great story. In the Wagner fee that I read of him that she initially was very nervous and she bought a baby book and was doing, and she eventually just threw it out because she was like, I just love this kid and we're just going to raise them that way that we'll be there guiding principle. He was also really fascinated as a kid by some of the old run down Victorian homes in their neighborhood. And when he was eight, Charlie, in a number of other boys broke into one that was under renovation and they drew skeletons on the walls and they caused all kinds of other mischief. They messed with the some of the paint and resins at the construction workers should left behind. And this got them in a little bit of trouble with the local police Adams like to tell people that he got arrested at the age of eight for trespassing and vandalism. But there was actually no arrest. The kids were instant rounded up and they were taken to the courthouse. And Mr Adams Charlie's father paid for the damages that the boys had done, like an episode of the Andy Griffith show. A lot of his life. Sounds like that growing up, he always stressed what a normal sort of wholesome, happy boyhood. He had later on as a young man. He really did get arrested though. He was arrested when he removed the tank top part of his swimsuit at the beach after having seen a photo of talian men who were wearing their swimsuits with just the shorts on, yes, for emulating fashion. He got a little bit of legal trouble. Charlie did remain fascinated with Victorian homes after his childhood, even. But during his childhood, he liked to wander the streets of their town where there were a lot of them, and he would imagine the secrets of the people who live there and thought about the sinister possibilities of the things in their lives. They might be hiding, but his own family, like I said, was pretty happy even pretty ordinary. His parents were devoted to one another any sometimes jokes that he was strange because he didn't have an unhappy childhood. He was a much beloved child. In he also really loved his parents. The only thing that seemed to dark in this picture of perfection and happiness was that his mother would get lonely when his father traveled for work long past that home break in Charles continued to be a prankster. He liked to use the dumb waiter in the family home to sneak into his grandmother's room and then jump out and scare her something that he admitted doing. The same, eternal grandmother, Emma Louise tough spear would go on to inspire the grandma character in his famous work as an adult. And it was through her that Charlie was related to not only the toughs family but also very distantly to John Adams. Yes. So that's the other side of the family, not the atoms from wins. His name comes, which is a two d. situation as in it has to dis in it. But yeah, so he had a pretty illustrious family set of connections on his mother's side. He also would say that in inspiring the grandmother later on in Addams family, that was his grandmother. Like when she first woke up in the morning and hadn't combed her hair, she was not always disheveled, but even as a kid, there were also some clues that Charlie was really in tune with the Macab. So in addition to thinking about those secret lives, if the people in the houses around him, he adored things like skeletons and coffins, and even earn maidens at one point. He said, he really believed that if he had told his parents, he wanted an iron maiden. They probably would have bought one for him. But some of his fascination with such things actually came from his fear of them. He was actually pretty claustrophobic. He wrote about it as a kid in his diary, and he was afraid of snakes. But instead of trying to avoid those things, he confronted them and he drew his fears to deal with them. One of the things that comes up over and over when you read about his houses and adult is that he had all kinds of snake art in it. So he clearly really braced that fear. He also really loved art. He started drawing as a kid and his parents encouraged him in it even when Charlie was still very young younger than seven. He was drawing pictures of World War One as it took place. He was imagining the seems that he heard about in news reports and he also liked to draw a lot of pictures of Kaiser Ville home. The second being killed in all kinds of ways. He was hanged. He was run over by a car on and on. Yeah, he's drew everything. He heard grace and Charles really believed that their child had a true and unique talent so much. So that at one point, grace brought some of his drawings to h t Webster at the New York herald and said, look at my child and what he can do. But Webster was like, this kid has no talent. It's such a common story among parents being like, my kid is amazing, and another non-related person is like not really though. Throughout all of his education. Charlie was a lot more likely to draw humorous cartoons during class than to take notes. And even in drawing class, he would hurry through assignments and then scribble his humorous cartoons for the rest of the class period. I did this all through school, but it was with reading. His classmates found him to be fascinating and fun, and he really never lacked for company when he wanted it. Yeah, he was one of those kids. It's been described that kind of fit in with everybody like he didn't have one click. He had kind of people from each clique that also hung out with him. And at this point, though, he still thought like art was probably a good plan, but that he was going to be like a commercial illustrator. He didn't think all of this doodling and cartooning would amount to much of anything and after graduating from Westfield, high school, he enrolled in Colgate college in Hamilton, New York. And this was actually a really difficult transition for his mother who was now often without her travelling husband and her son who was away at college in his sophomore year Adams transferred to university of Pennsylvania. But what he thought was going to be an art program that would more closely suits. His needs actually turned out to be more of an architecture program. He only lasted a year there. He'd never finished his undergraduate degree. And when he left. College. He started taking classes at the Grand Central school of art in New York. In this school. Still proudly lists him as an alumnus, but he only stayed there a year in nineteen thirty-one. He drew a sketch of a window washer from an aerial point of view, and then on a whim, dropped it off at the New Yorker offices like you do. He left it in an envelope, but he didn't include a return address on it. And then several months later, he went back to the New Yorker hoping to just pick up his sketch and he found out that it had been published in the space at the end of a column. That's what's called a decorative spot. It was in the February sixth nineteen thirty two issue. He got a check for seven dollars and fifty cents, and he was twenty. When this happened. Yeah, he apparently went running to show one of his friends, a young lady that he had met in art school that that he become close friends with this check and she actually thought he had forged it. She's like, no, you didn't well idea of a person just dropping something off at the New Yorker office and then having it published twenty. That's pretty farfetched. Yeah, but just a few months after this, this joyous milestone Charlie's father died at the age of fifty eight. And that sudden death. It wasn't entirely sudden, but he became ill very quickly and died not long thereafter. It really catalyzed a change for Charlie. He kind of realized at that point, the school was never going to give him what he needed, and he just wanted to go ahead and start earning a living. And so to that end he took a job retouching crime scene photos for true detective magazine. So in this case, he would sometimes make them a little less gory, gruesome before publication, or he would just do layouts where he had to add captions or any. He descriptive text on the image to to further explain it to readers. He made fifteen dollars a week, and that wasn't super great money. But it was a really secure job during the depression, which was a very difficult thing to find. He submitted to the New Yorker. Again, this time it was a sketch of a hockey player who forgot his skates and he's standing on the ice with his colleagues in his stocking feet. This was published on January fourth nineteen, thirty three, and he later talk about how unfunny this piece of art was and wonder why the magazine ever went for it. He continued to submit cartoons to the New Yorker and several more were published that year nineteen. Thirty four was leaner though the magazine only published one of his cartoons in nineteen thirty five. He submitted an image of a printing press that was running a paper with the headline sex fem- slaves tot he submitted that to the New Yorker and the New Yorker published it on March twenty third of nineteen thirty five. It was a skewering of the press and the tendency to run just the most lurid stories possible on the front. Page. And from that point, Adams who had already started signing his are Chaz Adams simply because he liked how it looked. He didn't actually go by Chas in his life started to get a little more brazen with the dark subjects of his cartoons. He did routinely get notes that his drawing needed to be better. And so he started working with ink washes, which added a lot of depth to his images, and he started selling a lot more art and making more money coming up. We'll talk more about Charlie's early work for the New Yorker. But first we're going to take a little break so we can hear from one of our sponsors. This episode is brought to you by stamps dot com. I'm one of those outgoing people who knows all of my neighborhood, postal workers if I like going to the post office, but sometimes my life is insane. And that is simply not always practical. Thankfully, these days you can get almost anything on demand and that includes your mailing needs. So you don't have to take trips to the post office to mail your letters or packages. You can get that postage on demand with stamps dot com with stamps dot com. You can access all of the amazing services of the post office. But right from your desk. Twenty four, seven when it is convenient for you and fits in your schedule. 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Those little smaller ones that were kind of fillers and a fee per square inch for larger images, which wasn't great money. It wasn't a high volume business, and there was no guarantee that submitted work was going to be accepted. And he also submitted to other publications during this time and got published in some of them. But the New Yorker was his primary source of income. And as his popularity with readers, grew the magazine started getting requests to purchase his original drawings and then on January first of nineteen thirty eight. He had his first cover with the magazine, not all of Adam's drawings were his own ideas. He collaborated with writers at the New Yorker for some of his work and. He hired gag writers on his own as well, but included Richard McAllister. This is a really common practice and at the time, the New Yorker ran its cartoon division around this idea of writers and artists working as collaborators. Sometimes people are a little shocked and I know even later in life is like sort of the next generation of artists was coming up in the New Yorker. Many of whom had been idolizing Charles Adams. They were like, what? What do you what? Do you mean? He didn't write those jokes and it'd be like, no, he would get somebody sometimes to write the joke, and then he would illustrate the joke. It's like an actor with a script. So this a little startling for some people. Mortician atoms first appeared in print on August sixth of nineteen thirty eight. Although she did not have that name at the time. She kind of got called all manner of things like ghoulish woman or creepy women still her trademark long, elegant look is unmistakable, although her hair is pulled back in that one. She is being given a pitch by vacuum salesman while a large imposing Butler. A bat and a mysterious figure upstairs I'll look on and the scene plays out against what is obviously a cobweb haunted house background and Adams who just called the work vacuum cleaner. When he recorded it in his own personal records was paid eighty five dollars for it. And he had absolutely no idea where that was even going to lead herald Ross. He was the co, founder and editor in chief at the New Yorker, saw something in this though the asked Adams to fill the Victorian house. He had created for the vacuum cleaner, cartoon with more characters. Things evolved immediately. The Butler went from this bearded man. He to the very clean shaven look that was reminiscent of Frankenstein's monster as that character looks in James Wales films the surroundings got more dilapidated and creepy or new characters didn't appear, but herald rask's still liked it though. And it ran in the magazine November of nineteen thirty nine more than a year after that, I Google. Dish vacuum cleaner sale. And then on January twelfth of nineteen forty, the New Yorker published one of Adams's most famous non Addams family cartoons is kind of nicknamed the ski tree, or you'll see it referred to as the skier, and it features a skier who has just passed a tree in the skiers ski tracks can clearly be seen going around each side of the tree, uninterrupted in the skiers, continuing on, and then a witness in the form of a cross country skier travelling in the opposite direction. Looks on in bewilderment really doesn't know quite how this person went around a tree on. It's skis from both sides it perfectly encapsulates turtles Adams's sense of the absurd and the mind, bending and Adams became pretty instantly famous for the skier, which surprised him greatly. He thought it was just an incredibly simple cartoon and he couldn't quite grasp why people wanted to analyze it so tirelessly for meaning. It got written up by professors. People wrote, you know their thesis on it. He. He heard about it being taught in like logic classes, and he was like, it's just a weird cartoon. You got. Well, in my embarrassing admission for this episode is that I didn't really like I'm familiar with that cartoon. I'm see. I seen it plenty of times before when I read the description in this outline, I could immediately call it's a mind and I did not make the connection ever that that was the same guy as that of spamming. I can understand that. I mean, it's it's an early stage of when he was doing ink washes, so it didn't have that same level of depth and it is not. It's weird. And like I said, it's a little mind bendy, but there's nothing of the sort of creepy stuff that we more closely tied him. So the nineteen forties were really eventful for Adams and nineteen forty. He illustrated the book, but who wakes the bugler by Peter degrees two years later, he published his own anthology drawn and quartered that Random House. And after that he was constantly publishing. He had a law out of books that elegant woman in Adams's dark Victorian house, who would later become more tissue. Fell in love almost in tandem with Charles Adams. The artist came up with a round old fashioned looking Paramore for his macabre lady as his life was becoming entwined with that of Barbara Jean day. Barbara who went by Bobby is often described as looking like Morteza though Adams at various times would list all of the many ways that they were different in early nineteen. Forty three. So we're, we're to Adams was drafted into the US army and just a month after he joined, his mother died at sixty six, which was incredibly rough on him three months later, perhaps to try to reclaim a little bit of happiness on may. Twenty ninth Charlie took leave to marry Bobby in Westfield, they honeymooned in Manhattan, and then Charlie returned to the base that he was stationed at, which was just in a story, Barbara set up their new home in an apartment at thirty six and a half east seventy fifth street. And she also started to look even more like Charlie's cartoon ghoul woman. She grew out her hair, which was. Very dark and she started wearing a lot of black because Charlie's barracks were nearby. The couple saw a lot of each other and they socialize with other couples as well. Yeah, this isn't a time where they were like separated during his service time. He stayed on the base, but it was apparent that many of the soldiers who were stationed there that had wives or girlfriends often left at night. He certainly was having dinners with friends and colleagues during this time. But because of his art background, Charlie was selected to work at the signal corps photographic center making training films, and pamphlets, and signs and similar types of things for the military. And during this time, he was also still submitting regularly to the New Yorker. He occasionally produced more theme art, usually the request of an editor, but he mainly stayed true to his own grim humor in subjects. He wanted his work to be timeless and not tied to the area in which it was drone in the children of the little monstrous family who would evolve into Pugsley and Wednesday appeared during this time as well. Charlie's army time ended in nineteen forty six after the war was over and he started to life that was really pretty glamorous. Adams had moved into a nicer apartment. He started buying cars and unique. Antiques purchased a farm spent months on fire island and party with friends, including old friends and new friends. Some of whom were very high profile in the art or writing scene. Yeah, it seemed like he and Bobby really had like that sort of charmed artsy power couple life or they just hung out with everybody. Cool. They hosted the coolest parties. He was busy getting into two racing his expensive cars at this point in December of nineteen Forty-six. The New Yorker published one of the most famous of the Addams family cartoons called boiling oil in this features in angled aerial view of a Victorian mansion with a group of carolers clustered at the bottom of the image of the door. They're kind of small in the picture, lurch Gomez and mortician again, not named this yet, but it's easier to do that for shorthand are standing on a ledge near the. Top of the house and they have a VAT of boiling oil tipped just before it spills out onto the Mary singers, huge numbers of requests came in from fans after this was published asking if they could use it on their Christmas cards. And Adams always granted permission so long as they were just doing it for personal use and they were not mass producing it for sale. Charlie really embraced the ghoulish eccentric identity that has spanned seem to want him to have. He went on picnics and graveyards and even snatched an old gravestone which he later used as a table. Please do not steal gravestones. His home filled up with ghoulish odds and ends, and he got all manner of odd and creepy gifts. He would tell reporters and friends about them, and he was very conscious of how they added to this whole Macab mystique. These things included stuff like a human vibe, bone and a skull that was gilded with gold. Yeah, all kinds of things. The human thighbone I have seen related to different ways one that it was a gift from a fan and one that it was a gift from one of his wives, but I never saw like conclusive corroboration of either of those, so, but he had one by the late nineteen forties though. What had started as a small issue in the Adams marriage loomed progressively larger Bobby enjoyed their life, but she really wanted to slowed things down a little bit and start a family. Charlie found it challenging enough to be in a monogamous marriage, and that was something that he never quite managed to do, and he did not want to add. Into the equation. He was absolutely great with kids. He enjoyed playing with kids, his friends, kids, I love him, but he thought having one of his own in his life was going to really limit his options and basically just prevent him from living the life he wanted. And he later would say, when this topic would come up, I'm my own child. Eventually, Charlie agreed that they could have a baby, but they weren't able to conceive Bobby wanted to adopt a child and Charles agreed on the condition that they get an older child and not an infant. But then when a child fitting their application finally became available, Charlie got cold feet about it and it couldn't complete the paperwork. And this ended their marriage Bobby left shortly thereafter with another man. Yes. So they had had eight years where they seemed like the perfect couple of minute ended rather abruptly and that same summer that the marriage ended Charlie's best friend and fellow cartoonist died. That was Sam cobaine. He died suddenly in a car accident, and Adams actually felt somehow responsible for the death because. He had been the person who got Sam interested in cars, and even though he was not driving dangerously, I guess he was driving kind of fast down a street away when another car entered and hit his car, and Bobby and Charlie attended SAM's funeral as a couple. It was there. One last appearance as a married couple. Despite all these personal setbacks Charlie's professional life was continuing to flourish. Not only were there more books, but also merchandise. There was a line of Chas, atoms scarves and housewares that was launched in the early nineteen fifties. He also worked on a sort of projects with his friends. Yes, some of those came to fruition and some did not, but he always just had fun kind of noodling around with other people on collaborations and projects, and it turned out that Adams's penchant for Dr humor really connected with readers. He already knew that based on the whole Christmas card thing, but it continued to snowball. He got fan mail from all over. And at one point he told James Thurber quote, I have gotten a lot of letters about my work, most of them from criminals and subhumans who want. To sell ideas. Some of the worst come from a minister in Georgia in a whole kinds of rumors are also started to follow him around this time like that. He slept in a coffin, and sometimes that he would put eyeballs in his Martinez, those were untrue, but the legendary tales of his drinking and womanizing that started around this time. We're absolutely based in reality. He was really fun, loving and famous and wants. His divorce became public knowledge. He was like a magnet for prospective dates. He dated some women regularly, and there were rumors of some possible engagements, but he was never exclusive with anyone. Yeah. The list of women that he was almost maybe engaged to is mighty long. I mean, we're talking dozens. And then he met a woman named Barbara barb in nineteen Fifty-three and her full name was actually a still be barbed, and she was tall, dark, haired, flashy beauty. She looked to a lot of his friends like an ultra glamorized version of Charlie's first wife, Bobby, he very clearly had a type. Some of his friends really perceived her rather unkindly. She was described by some of them as a Bimbo, but in fact, Barbas smart as a whip and very ambitious, and she had what seemed to be very successful law career. She did have a legitimate law degree, but she also embellished her own life story in ways that made it really hard to discern how much she was a self made success, and whether she may have gotten her money from other means. But regardless of how anyone else saw Barbara, barb, Charles Adams was completely captivated by her, but one aspect of their courtship was always consistently relaid based on accounts of all of Charlie's for him Amtrak Charlie. It was a really tumultuous relationship. Charlie confided in friends at various points that Barbara was sometimes violent when they fought hitting him and brandishing a knife at one point. They also ended up having a number of false starts on wedding dates. They would plan to get married, and then they would get in a big fight and it would fall apart and they would just do that cycle over and over. But they still did get married in South Carolina at the end of nineteen fifty four. The marriage like the courtship was really a roller coaster. Barbara lied to Charlie about being pregnant when she wasn't. She told him that she had no family when it turned out that she did and they were nearby in Brooklyn police had to intervene in fights between the two of them, on occasion and throughout all of it. It turned out that Barbara had maintained a romance with a man in England who she saw whenever she was travelling to Europe, which was a frequent part of our work and the New Yorker at this time had first rights to any of Charlie's cartoons as outlined in a contract that had been put in place in the nine. Nineteen forties, Barbara, barb, set up a company of her own that would manage the sale in distribution of any work that the New Yorker had not taken. And under this setup, Barbara was paid to manage the arrangement and manage his art, and she was entitled to fifty percent of the earnings from these sales. This marriage and all kinds of aspects of their relationship were completely confusing to everyone in Adam social circle, and we'll talk a bit more about that. After we take a quick break. Ever wonder why your office kitchen is so disgusting. What about how to deal with an overly critical boss or a colleague who smells or that co worker who for some reason takes all of his calls on speakerphone. I'm Alison green from the podcast, ask a manager where I answered questions from listeners that how to navigate life at work, especially the trickier more awkward aspects of having a job, a boss and co workers, the stuff you may have questions about, but have never known who to ask. 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But Charles also seemed a little afraid of his second wife and he was willing to give in to her various demands just to keep the peace and hopefully keep their various problems from getting out and damaging his career. But he wasn't counter submissive from very early on. He was taking delivery of love letters that were arriving from Barbara's British lover, and then taking those to his lawyers for safe-keeping without ever telling barb that he had them feel like this is the inspiration for a whole story line on parks and recreation. It absolutely could be the inspiration of so many different genres of drama comedy and horror. Well, specifically the multiple wives with the same name. With one of them being particularly bad one. So then in October of nineteen fifty, five Barbara insisted that Charley takeout one hundred thousand dollar life insurance policy that named her as it's irrevocable. Benificiary Charlie, talk to a lawyer, and then he went along with the policy. He and Barbara went into couples counselling. He also though hired an investigator to follow Barbara's activities in England, and he told friends that he thought that Barbara was trying to kill him. The marriage finally ended in nineteen fifty-six with Barbara asking for the rights to fifty of Charlie's cartoons and ownership of some of his properties. She promised that she would return the real estate to him in her. Will he happily agreed thinking this was a relatively painless way to escape this whole marriage and after a quickie divorce, Barbara immediately left for England and moved in with her lover there incidentally there quickie divorce, which happened in Alabama. At a time we're Alabama was the place you went to for a quickie divorce? Could you because you could. Just stand there and say, yes, I'm a resident of Alabama and no one would question it and then they would do the legal proceeding. Allegedly. Their divorce took like forty five minutes, and a lot of people were doing exactly the same thing, but this became high profile enough that people are like, wait a minute. We got to change the laws. This is the way too easy. We can't be like the divorce destination and his legal team that he would consult was always like, don't do this. Don't sign anything. She gives you any would be like you're right, and then he would go back and sign it. But finally, he thought he was free. And by the end of nineteen fifty-six, Charlie had started an affair with a woman named t. Davey who was his friend's wife was also very pregnant at the time. And this happened when he visited them in Tennessee during the holidays t whose name was Maryland Matthews. But she had gone by tease since she was a kid had known Charlie for about nine years. At that point, she'd been introduced her husband buddy Davey who was an air to the standard oil fortune in this affair was not very serious for either of them. T's marriage was struggling at the time, although they were working on things with the therapist and Charlie was still dealing with his divorce. It was a brief and casual dalliance, but deepening friendship grew between the two of them as Charles, stayed there in Tennessee with the very pregnant t- well, buddy traveled for work. Meanwhile Barbara who had remarried but not told Charlie about it once again appeared in his life. The two started trying to see each other socially when she was in New York, and it's. Been theorized that he was possibly trying to make nice with her in order to get his properties back, but he always remained really unfathomably friendly to her. Yeah, his friends all had theories about why he might have social dates with her, and that was one of them that was kind of the semi was maybe he's trying to get his stuff back. We don't know. She blackmailing you. Because she did seem a little snake e. He also had a project during this time called dear dead days which was published in nineteen fifty nine. And this was a concept book. And the concept was that it was the memory album of the Addams family and it featured photographs that tied to their world and inspired the cartoons that he had drawn of them. But there are only a few pieces of his artwork within it. Some of the photographs were Erie 'em unsettling in it was not what people expect. It was not what his fans wanted in this book did not sell very well, but Adams thought it was great. He felt like this was a very fulfilling artistic endeavor incidentally, maybe been formed by these two failed marriages Charles wanted it never to. We actually stated in captions or images that his gothic bride and her odd rotund Paramore we're married as characters that he was starting to form into a group in these cartoons. Yeah, they never were. A family initially in his mind, they were just like odd ghouls that live together. And it wasn't until the press started. Calling them actually Adams's family that they started to take on that tone despite the lackluster reception of dear dead days. And the end of this really bad, the reef marriage, Charles Adams was entering a stage of his life. That was, again, sort of like the epitome of glamorous successful party lifestyle. We are going to talk about all of that. And of course, the atoms families transition from the page to the screen. On our next episode, I have listener mail. It's a brief listener mail, but it felt like it tied into this because it is from one of our younger listeners and it has a drawing on it and he writes, can you do episode on the Odin Barr castle, my ancestors owned it. I am also named after it from our listener Odin who drew beautiful castle at the bottom. I'll put it on my list. You never know when those might pop up. Everything's in sort of a long list, constant rotation situation where it depends when we find resources and. 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