6 Episode results for "Egon Bernal"
July 27, 2019: Could a Colombian win the Tour de France for the first time ever?
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Corporate Earnings Beat Expectations
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I'm Marie for totally before we get to earnings and the Fed here are some top stories we're following a fatal shooting at the Gilroy garlic festival in California left three people dead and more than a dozen injured according running to the police one suspect was also killed by police Gilroy police chief Scott Smith He. We have one suspect. We know that is down. We have some witnesses reporting that there may have been a second suspect but we don't know oh if that suspect was engaged in any shooting or whether they may have been some sort of a support role with the person that we have accounted for the shooting broke out around five forty P._M.. Local time as the three day festival was winding winding down for the latest on this developing story police check our website W._S._J.. Dot Com National Intelligence Director Dan Coats is stepping down from his post next month. President trump made the announcement on twitter saying he will nominate Texas Representative John Ratcliffe for the job coats who has served as intelligence director since March of two thousand seventeen as longtime critic of Russia right cliff drew the support of trump allies and conservative media outlets for his questioning of former special counsel Robert Mueller clashes between police and protesters took place in Hong Kong over the weekend in what's been a summer of protests against Beijing's encroachment police used tear-gas gases. They fought to contain thousands of protesters Hong Kong. Police said they made at least forty nine arrests on Sunday. Protests began in June and the last few weeks have marched an increase in the intensity of confrontations. They began over controversial extradition Asian law that since been put on hold demonstrators wanted withdrawn for good Chinese officials have reminded protesters that the Chinese military could legally be called upon by Hong Kong's leadership analysts say that's unlikely but it has added to uneasiness in the city Colombian Egon Bernal won the Tour de France on Sunday the first person from his country to do so and at twenty two the youngest torture France winner in one hundred ten years the Wall Street Journal Joshua Robinson says it was one of the most exciting tours in the three decades. What made this race so exciting is that we really didn't know who is GonNa win until the last three or four stages and that's not common in the modern modern sort of France? The past few years team ineos mostly known as team sky in those days. would be like a Boa constrictor this race taking control early and slowly suffocating. What we had here was a French guy named Julian Allah Felipe who wasn't supposed to be in the Yellow Jersey attacking all the time holding the Yellow Jersey for fourteen days his and giving this race <hes> some flavor and a little bit of French hope which we haven't which we haven't seen in several years now but ultimately it was bernal who pulled ahead in Brunell is twenty two years old from Columbia and he is a cycling prodigy this guy as his teammate Gareth Thomas said was born to go uphill fast he lives at altitude and trains at altitude in Columbia so that even some of the highest climbs at the twitter France where actually lower than where he lives and he is just so cool and so poised that you get the sense that not only was ready to win the twitter France but the first of many that's The Wall Street Journal Joshua Robinson? We're in the midst of earning season and there's more to come this week including reports from apple proctor and gamble and Kellogg joining me now with more on what we're seeing so far and what we're watching this week is Wall Street Journal reporter Mike Worst Horn so mike we heard from a bunch of companies last week including several tech giant's. What can you tell us about what we're seeing from that sector in particular so there's been a lot of surprises which is something that's been helping to rejuvenate rejuvenate the market a little bit the S&P five hundred rose another two percent so far in July and it'd be part of that is because you have seen some of these big tech name some of these big tech companies post better than expected earnings alphabet being one of the more recent ones that did that you know during their trading on Friday they were up double digits at certain points of the day just because investors really enthusiastic about a company like that still being able to show that it can continue to generate profits in revenue in a more challenging economic climate twitter was another one that also had very well received results but the situation has been somewhat mixed amongst some of the technology names facebook being one of them they had great earnings but they have <hes> various regulatory issues that they're coping with so the stock price was a little more muted in terms of the reaction to that you know that said out of the entire S&P five hundred nearly a third of the companies that have reported so far have beaten expectations so far? This has been a pretty well received earnings reporting season so let's talk about some of those companies reporting this week cool you be keeping a close eye on will apple's going to be one of the biggest ones and that's GonNa be extremely important just because you know one. It's Tech Company in two. It's a manufacturer and I think the one things that's really stood out this earning season you know part from the ones that are doing really well is that manufacturers industrial manufacturer specifically or having a pretty tough time caterpillar warrant about their earnings over the last week and that's because there are trade tensions in you're seeing slowing economic growth in other parts of the world like Asia in Europe so for apple well you know they warned earlier this year that some of those concerns that are affecting caterpillar were also affecting them so investors will want to see whether or not that's still the case or if apple sort of joining some of the other tech companies and and are able to sort of you know muscle through this challenging period so we often talk about uncertainty over trade. What are some other potential roadblocks on the horizon? We'll I guess the other next big ones going to be the the Federal Reserve meeting and that's going to be coming up this week as well and investors will want. Let's see whether or not the FEDS GONNA actually cut interest rates right now. The expectation of interest rate cut is heavily baked into stock prices. The S. and P. five-hundred is up twenty percent a big chunk of that is because of those rate cut expectations not so much earnings and not so much some of these other factors that were helping the stocks last year like say the tax cut so you know that said if the Fed doesn't move forward and cutting rates or signals that you know they'll be less ray cuts on the table than expected analyst and investors are preparing for a bit of volatility. They expect stocks that have to come down because you just can't pray stocks at the level the rat now the interest rates aren't gonNA come down so that's probably just as important as trade tensions which you know continue to linger in the background right now. That's Wall Street Journal reporter Mike Worst Horn. Thanks so much Mike Venture capital one knows life doesn't alert you about your credit card. That's why they've created E-e-e-e-no the capital one assistant that catches things that might look wrong with your credit card N._o.. Catches over tipping duplicate charges or potential fraud and then sends an alert sheer phone and helps you fix it. It's another way capital. One is watching after your money when we're not capital one. What's in your Wallet See Capital One dot Com for details else the U._S.? In China resume high level talks in Shanghai this Tuesday after negotiations broke down in May the Wall Street Journal Charlie Turner spoke with reporter Josh Zoom Bruin for more details on what are likely to be the most contentious issues what topics are expected to be discussed. I think among them near the top would be the terrified. That's currently going on also intellectual property technology that sort of thing so those were the big the big issues when the talks broke down in May <hes> and those are still the biggest issues the U._S. wants China to commit to real fundamental changes in the structure of its economy China wants the U._S. to drop all these tariffs once and for all China really wants the U._S. to back off the technology telecommunications company while away. Nobody really thinks they're going to make huge progress on these really big issues this week. I mean this is the first time getting back to talks in over two months after the big break down so the people are thinking that maybe they're going to be focusing on a more limited set of issues one area where they could make some progress is agriculture. The president has really president trump has really wanted China to commit to making more U._S. The U._S. agricultural purchases. This trade war has been incredibly hard on the U._S.. Farm economy president trump has thrown a new wrinkle into the U._S.. China trade dispute on Friday. He pressed the World Trade Organization to change how it defines developing in countries and that means really he wants China to no longer be defined as the developing nation because he thinks that gives China an unfair advantage. Could you explain that yeah. This is an interesting little issue at the World Trade Organization where countries can go to dispute each other's trade practices practices but China benefits from the status that they're they're considered a developing country and so they do get some special benefits in these negotiations the reason the W._T._o.. was set up this way was to basically recognize that developing countries need a little bit of help to to get on their feet and be competitive in the international arena and so the argument that the U._S. makes is that for a country like China. This is the world's second largest economy. No longer makes sense for them to get this sort of preferential treatment and so you know it's an interesting little development. Element that as they're heading to Shanghai for new round in negotiations the U._S. has also kind of applying this pressure on the W._T._o.. In a way that would hurt China now. It's hard to say if this is going to be a big top level issue for China and the U._S.. US In the negotiations separate forums where W._T._o.. Issues can be discussed the W._T._o.. Is Everyone in the world not just the U._S.. In China so there's a lot more input that you would need to see other than just how the U._S. and China feel about that issue so it's an an interesting development but I suspect it's not going to be central to the trade talks. The bottom line is that it's a pre tough road for these two sides to even get back to where they were at the beginning of May and to get a big comprehensive deal is going to be really hard because the politics I think gotten harder in both countries China has its own hardliners who don't want to see their president. Give into president trump obviously U._S.. Hardliners don't want the U._S.. To go easy on companies like wow way which are which are so so integral to the telecommunication system in the world that people fear it could be a way for the Chinese to really meddle in things and pose a real national security issue and U._S.. Hardliners don't want the U._S. to give anything up there so in some ways these talks have gotten a lot harder over the past two months and that's why people aren't expecting huge breakthrough this week in Shanghai and finally here are some of the big stories to look out for this week we are of course keeping a close eye on the Federal Reserve which is expected to cut interest rates for the first time in over a decade that plan got a vote of support from former fed chair Janet Yellen The Wall Street Journal Nick Tim Rose Says Moore on Yellen's comments at at an economic event in Aspen Colorado over the weekend Janet Yellen. The former chair of the Fed was asked on Sunday what she would do if she were still leading the central bank and she said she would vote for a quarter percentage point cut in the feds benchmark rate this week not because she thinks economies during badly she actually said she thinks the economy's doing pretty well the job market strong but she said inflation looks too low. It's been running below the feds two percent target this year and global growth growth looks weak and it could beginning weaker because of the trade conflict <hes> between the U._S. and China. She said that businesses have been slowing their investment decisions because of uncertainty about trade and that what happens the rest of the world the slowdown in Europe and Asia will affect the United States eventually she also said a reason to cut interest rates this week would be because markets expect it. The Fed shouldn't do what the market wants or what the market expects she said but when the market sees the same things the Fed does anticipates the feds actions and the Fed agrees with the markets logic she thinks it makes sense for the Fed to go ahead and cut rates the Fed meets on Tuesday and Wednesday this week beyond meet the first alternative meet startup to go public reports earnings on Monday. The company is share price more than doubled in its debut Tuesday brings reports from drugmaker Pfizer and proctor in gamble and apple also reports on Tuesday after the market close and the democratic debates head to Detroit Michigan State Donald Trump one in two thousand sixteen will have more from voters and what's watch as we gear up for the second round of democratic debates.
2020 TdF Preview Show with Johan and JB, Stage 17
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Welcome back to the move podcast as we wrap up stage seventeen of the Tour de France. And a very, very exciting day at that I'm Jay be hager joined by Johan. Bruyneel to get his analysis of what's going on in the Tour de France, what he's seeing teams with individuals. And looking ahead to tactics for tomorrow. So before we get into What we saw on stage seventeen today Johan you were very, very vocal. when we did the show yesterday about Egon, Bernal and the importance of him staying in the Tour de France to you know as a message to his teammates. Out of respect for the race, which he is last year's champion. And then not long after we finished recording yesterday, the rumors started to fly around and sure enough he did not line up this morning. So let's start with that in your thoughts. Yeah. Yeah I mean I was you know it was it was fifty fifty. Of course you know that was my opinion. and. So I WANNA start my saying that of course you know I don't have all the information that a on hasn't his team has of course to to make that decision right but. I think it's a you know a he's been on the top of the sport for you know for almost all the races he has done. And I think that this could also be a good way to to learn the other side of of the success right? And, and as I said, you know especially towards towards his His teammates who who've been working for him now or you know have shifted their focus are chasing stage victories. So Yeah I was surprised than a bit disappointed but you know I mean who knows maybe there's something we don't know. He's he keeps referring to this back injury which which is not from the tour by by the way, but he had that at the end of the Delfi knee. So maybe that's something that keeps causing a problem and and out of precaution they have just said you know, Kate, you know pull out because we don't want this to generate another injury. Now if you have a back problem and you start to adopt. A different poster on your bicycle you could develop a knee injury for example, you know so I don't know. I don't know but you know if I would. Know that there's no injury involved or does no problem? No, no problem of an injury involved the personally I would would have made him. Stay into tour and and work the team even if it's going forbiddens four for water bottles. because I think that at this age. If everything goes well always and not saying that it's easy. You know. I. Mean I. First of all, he's a very talented writer one of the most talented riders of the battle. Tom That's a snuff forget that but But yeah. So we started the day with You know the disappointment of Benalla, not starting and. We already kind of took into account that he would not be a factor in the race anymore. It's always had to see the you know the the number one. Of last year You know he was he was raised erasing with BIB number one go home. You know that's not it's not a pleasant sight. and. Another thing we got to see today that. Got Under your skin a little bit is we saw with now we understand better why the race director prudhomme wanted to be back after seven. Or Seventeen or fourteen or twenty one days. Yeah. Yeah. Well, first of all, you know I I've I've read somewhere or people have been writing to me that the quarantine in France is seven days instead of fourteen, and so my my my question is Is that is that virus different in France, than in other countries? Well, let's that's strange but yeah. So you know he got back and today You Know Bhai coincidentally the President of France among with Michael was in the race. And I saw afterwards a picture of you know Christiane. PREDOM- with the Keystone Michael of it in my well my also. I was You know I was thinking maybe he wanted his picture taken at the president you know. So So yeah, I mean we saw we saw also in the during the during the broadcast that they were filming in the in the car macron and you know very very I mean a huge coincidence right at that moment. A little bottle of a presidential hand sanitizer came out and they were washing their hands in front. Yeah we were watching. It was a very staged moment for sure. It was incredibly states. Yeah. I mean it was I was laughable. But but yeah. So anyway, predominance back in the race and apparently apparently everything's fine. So no problems. Okay. And then another interesting thing about today's stage inning it the the Meribel it hasn't happened since the seventies and it's a new road and turned out to be very, very exciting climb. You saw it last year. With the younger riders yet last year So this is a new road. This is basically you don't Midi. Bail is a ski station. So in the seventies there has been, I think one time amount of finish their I think they've in the French writer wanted to also one, two, thousand, two, hundred, France. But. Before last year, there was last year the tour Avenir, which is you know that's like the this is like the small to France for young riders finished on the climb with it today they did today. So this is a new road it's basically You know a bike road, they did up ski slope which. connects the ski station of Bell. With, the Ski Station on the other side of the mountain Chevelle. and I was thinking when they were saying to say well, well, I, mean that's kind of weird. No mean a bike bath I mean who would wanna go up there with his bike to go to over one ski station to the other I mean it's it's. Insanely steep. I spoke with the with the sport director of They got Chara Allen Piper. And I asked him which during the Gotcha was using and he was on thirty six in the front and thirty two in the back. Really it's I. Mean. That's just I mean to have to use gears like that. It's that insanely steep. Also at this altitude, you know I think that those were the two big factors of today, the steepness of the last four kilometers and especially everything above two thousand meters, which makes it so much harder. So. The average recreational writer would would be falling over. On the east the steepness of these climbs I'm sure. Yeah. I mean know medicine nowadays of course, there's a there's always this gear S- available you know with a mountain bike for example, you know you can have a thirty thirty two in the front and a fifty in the back. So, you could go up there but you know if you really want to have fun. I know I know other rose the right then and then sixteen and twenty one percent. But yet today was this I mean this climb at the end was something else I mean those crazy and you know, of course, everybody off they knew they had most of the most of the big favorites and their teams with have recount a preview, the that stage. So they knew already you ha-, you kind of have to because you know you can't just go off information you collect from from here and there you need to know if you really WanNa go for the Tour de France you need to know you need to know exactly which gears. You have to use an and so all these guys had done this for sure. And that's also brought. You know the consequence of this was that you know everybody was basically also afraid to attack early and rightfully so because. Now twenty one and a half kilometer climb at the end knowing that you're going to go to two thousand, three, hundred meters. And who would attack from early on knowing that it's you know it's so steep last four kilometers and you will climb during I duNNo. Though for those four kilometers would probably have been. Twenty plus minutes. You know of more. So so you know we didn't see anything until the last four kilometers but you know as usual. Then, those lost four kilometers make up for everything else I mean we did see. We did see things there was a breakaway. Very strong breakaway was. Than Martin Gorka. Aguirre. liter bus the winner of the of last year, and then the winner of of yesterday stage Leonard Kamina from Bora the German guy? So. Again, five really strong is. They did. You. Know they did a really good right and bit by bit. They started to get a first down to four when you know surprisingly but you know not I, mean it's a bit logically also Leonard Camera after his huge effort of yesterday in the finale yesterday stage, he couldn't follow. A he obviously didn't recover from yesterday on the cul de la Madeline and then we had that, Martin, who got dropped the downhill was a bit surprised to see that. And then basically, it came down to awfully Benny's Aguirre and got us. And once again you know Philippe he's been so I mean he's been trying he's been in so many different breakaways day after day after day. And every stage he just. Is Confronted with someone or two or three riders who are just a bit stronger than him in today again, you know he couldn't follow. Got Up US and he's I get it on the last climb I know he's so likable too because he's aggressive rider and it seems like if he just had five percent more fitness, the share he'd be. Okay. Yeah but you know I mean listen he's trying trying and and I think that's what makes him so attractive. Day. You know because other days you say, okay, he doesn't have it. You know it's he's not so strong and they after he's back in the breakaway again, there's these hopes. Especially for the French people you know for the French spectators. Okay. He will win another stage and. And maybe tomorrow is in the breakaway again, who knows It is. It's it is very likable further for the fans to see a guy fighting day in and day out as opposed to. A climber the just really sits back just as barely making the time one day so that they can be well rested to try to win a stage the next day make sense Alpha leap is just hitting it all the time. All the time all the time. That's why he's Mr Popular in France, he's first of all. He's an extremely good writer. You know he's he's one incredible races already but on top of that, you know his way of racing his aggressiveness makes him. In now, that's obviously also contributing to the market value of cyclist in this case Philippe you know. If you're a good writer. And you have good results about you have a certain value. But on top of that, if you have a personality in a certain charisma which awfully does have. you know makes. makes. Cycling needs these kind of characters. I agree. But as a director Johan, do you think sometimes if you were working with Allah Felipe, you'd be like hey. Let's pick our punches here. You can't go everything the well I mean obviously he gets more and more tired you know what I mean that's. I think I think writers elephants is is it's difficult to steer him because he I think is this more writer who who rides on his feelings? Gotten I'm pretty sure you know I. I don't know but I'm pretty sure that this is a guy obviously. He does train you know with the the latest scientific methods and with a power meter and you know but I'm pretty sure in the race is more of a racer eraser of feelings and you know his instinct. and. So I think it's difficult to steer him in the race when he when he feels good, just go for it. You know and then you know maybe Ten kilometers after a realized that all of a sudden he's not feeling as good as he thought he was. Now. Another thing we saw today that was interesting. I made the assumption that Landa was in good form because. Bahrain McLaren was up their work in that whole last climb controlling it in front of Jomo Visa. Land must be telling him I feel good. But when they Bahrain train ended so did land. Yeah. Yeah. I think I mean not just the last climb J. B. also the motherland you know a big big big part of the motherland they took over and they started you know basically accelerate a little bit than. And I'm pretty sure I agree with you that for sure London has told the May I feel good we need to. We need to make the race heart and I'm going to try something at the end. I am I'm almost convinced that you know that's what happened. You know it's so difficult to to predict because really you don't know how you are until you. Really. On your maximum on your limits. And and of course, you know earlier in the stage on the motherland and at the beginning of the Colorado's. They're not at their maximum they're going ninety percent and it's very, very possible and most likely would happen that you know when when he was at ninety percent of his effort, you know. So I'm feeling pretty good. So you know let's let's keep going. You know. and. Then all of a sudden they accelerate a little bit. Then you said. This kinda hurts but. Yeah I'm still feeling. Okay. So let's keep going. And when you're a ninety eight or nine, thousand, nine percent of your maximum said Oh. I'm not good at all. So. That's. That's where you really. The the differences are so small between all these guys that the it's difficult you can feel great. During the majority of the station, all of a sudden when you know when it's really. When it gets on the limit and especially also, I think one thing that's that's that's very difficult to predict the altitude. Now. You can feel great at fifteen, sixteen, hundred meters, and then all of a sudden above two thousand meters you're completely different you know so. I, think that's probably would happen to. To London, let's not forget. This Stewart has not gone as this is the first time they they kind of. Motherland is two thousand meters and then and then Colo's two, thousand, three, hundred plus meters. So a other than that they've always been around fifteen, sixty, seven, hundred, seventy, eight, hundred meters, and that's a big difference. I think that's a I. think that's probably what happened. At the end of the day you know. Who I know one. One team that's going to be say, thank you Jim vs my you know they did all the work for your movies. Movies my basically didn't have to do anything. Just. At the at the beginning of the stage. You know control the bunch a little bit until that breakaway was gone, and then soon as Brian Media took over. On the lower slopes of the motherland and. To, movies was Yeah they were sitting comfortably. And so at the end when we did see Jumbo visa taken over the Front Sept- coups backup there in the things again. And it kind of breakdown. I. What you think was going on with with. Koos going up front and Rog Lich thing back. We were all kind of wondering what what is the tactic here? Well, I I to be had I had Mitte. You know who was just basically pulling, but they were not going. Extremely heart. First of all because as I said before you know everybody was really. Very careful for those lost four kilometers, and then on top of that, you know, let's not forget they had well to pools who was pulling who's been injured since day one. and So you know he was doing whatever he could, but it's obviously not the best level of wealth bulls. So it was kind of still. Comfortable if you can call it comfortable but you know for the climbers a comfortable base in the Peleton. And then. It was blotch who said one of his teammates to w delacruz. Okay. Let's accelerate you know and that was when but I- Morita. Of. Was Gone and when all of a sudden also Landa got problems. But also here again, the V delacruz is also a writer who's been you know basically dragging himself through this tour de France also. crashed. Very hard on day. One. Both him and pull the both have some kind of injury some kind of fracture somewhere. It's amazing. They're still in the Tour de France and so those are two really good writers but you know they're they're not at their best. And and so when when W de la Cruz of UAE took over yes. It kind of accelerated a little bit but still not fast enough and then you had who's right. Seppuku came to the front. And and that you could see straight away. So the the rhythm of couse was basically you know you had rog rich and then you had got shot and Meka and two or three more, and that was it. And there I personally think that an. primos regulates made I mean of course at the end it turned out fine for him because he he took time on on Blotch Auden is stronger in yellow them before the stage but I think that. All of a sudden he was in separate Kusa. His wheel. Obviously at that point extremely fast already the rhythm and it's just the very few best the. But he looked over and he was kind of he wanted to be at. will so he kind of pulled off and and? Koos. Without him even knowing he was he got a gap and apparently apparently from what I hear. wrocklage. Said or shouted to two separate. Okay Go. So he he's GonNa. Say Okay. Go Go to the Front go away right so What I think happened is that Rogge which was not one hundred percent confident. that. He could. Take time on Bugatchi or that he could respond to pogo attack because he knew that. Had To. Try. To. attack. And that's why he didn't want to be on Sept Kuc's wheel but the beyond Bugatchi ours wheel. And I think that was a mistake because at that point, it's just the very few best that are there and if you have your teammates who setting the tempo, then you just stay on his wheel and you know you say. He's done and then you wait then you can still wait if if there's an attack but in the meantime. Will have had heard a little bit more because there was there was a fast tempo in the front so. Having said that you know an incredible performance of of this young American from from the Rangoon have goose. Discover. An incredible climber somebody waits. In my opinion a really really good recovery capacity for big stage races. The way he's racing in the way he's performing now in the last mountain stages is is really remarkable. So Yeah. Had Self to him and You know definitely a lot to be allowed to be seen from him in the future. 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Up after what I've seen today I would say yes Yesterday already we saw you know although it was a little little tiny detail, but in the end, he kind of had the best legs of all the favorites. Today. Again he confirmed that and he took advantage of it. You know he took time on everybody. But especially on his his direct rivals for the podium which are Richie port, then go back to one. And now he sits with you know one more than half minutes on the on report who's was fourteen DC now. So I personally think that's enough Let's not forget the the last time trial it's I mean it's thirty six kilometers and enrich report is. obviously, a better time travel is than than Superman. Lopez but. Superman I. Did they call him Superman there know that's his nickname in in Columbia? but Do, you know where the name Superman comes from. I heard this story today it's from. A getting stabbed right. Yeah he was. He was trainee I think he was training or he was with is I don't know what he got. He got there was. A little more gang with active and they wanted to steal his bicycles. And you know he was by himself and he single handedly defended himself and these guys had to leave and they couldn't steal his bikes. Since. Then since then he's called Superman in Columbia that's that's his nickname. Yeah but I think I think you know he's not he's not the the Best Tundra specialist. But as I said, you know it comes down to freshness and physical condition in the last time drought. So one and a half minutes should be more than enough and I would even dare to say you know he's he's probably GonNa do the same kind of Sandra report if if you know if not better, you never know. So I think I think that's the podium Demaro I don't I. Don't expect a big shakeup. For the moment, the only I mean the only potential shakeup I could see. Is that Milan Lopez obviously. He's he's getting. I'M NOT GONNA say he's getting better in the third leak but. Because everybody's getting more and more tired but he he kind of. Is You know his his condition is is amazing in the third week? Fractured and the rest. A and he's only thirty seconds down on second place. So. You know. Who knows you know if our is starting to crack a little bit? He could. He could he could move up to second place you never know. Knowing. Knowing. Astana. Tomorrow they're going to they're going to try something. They're definitely going to try something they're going to send people in the breakaway. With the intention of Miguel Lopez trying to attack on the second last climb having people in front. And and be able to wait for him and drive him to finish I think that's a possibility which could add the risk of. Lopez blowing up and losing your podium spot. Now like. You know it's one and a half minute you know or or a little bit more. It's it's it's a it's a good cushion. He's he's definitely Yep, there you know he's always there with all the best in the last week so. I I. Don't I don't think that's going to happen. I don't think that's going to happen. Okay. Why you've kind of already broken down a bit of what to expect to see tomorrow. Is there anything else that look for tomorrow? Well, tomorrow you know it's one, seventy, five kilometers. Five kilometers more than today. Again, you know an extremely hard stage. Got One climb after forty five kilometers. And Then a cat three climb a cat to climb again cat one climb and then at the end. A Horse category climb. Short but steep six kilometers at eleven percent know reasonably close to the finish. Anything CAN HAPPEN At A breakaway that goes from the start and makes it to the finish that's going to be difficult because you know we start the first climb already. With. Twenty after twenty, eight kilometers. So there's no, there's basically no time. It's going to depend on the pace that Jimbo visa. Sets, and then also it's going to depend whether you know I mean if you see from the start. That Astana and UAE are sending people in the or trying to have people in the breakaway. Then, I'm pretty sure astonished will do that the I. I'm not GonNa say I, want to bet on it but I would like to bet on it that that's going to happen. That, they have One or two guys in the breakaway. And then of course, you know they have to get over all those climbs. That's you know that's another problem. It's not. It's not like you know stage like today where it's I I eight, thousand, ninety kilometers flat and or more or less flat, and then you have the hills it's heavy from the beginning. Tomorrow. When is really war from the very start the guys from the group Eto, the sprinters. That's not an easy stage to make the time. Cut I. Think I big. Now that although spinners are so close to be being able to sprint in Paris, and you've got to make the time, it's not that easy. No, no, no, no. No I mean these kinds of stages are are difficult. Especially because you know on those cut one climbs, those two climbs the you know the first guys go really hard and for the sprinters, this is just another climb they have their. Doesn't really matter if it's one or cat to climb for them, it's just uphill and they go they go slow. One thing I can one thing you know there's a sprint after fourteen years for points but you know I think personally that that that battle is over. You know I think today. Again, we saw that you know some Bennett this faster than Peterson. Gone. They, get they were they were first and second. You know in the in the sprint some Bennett, and then also his lead out guy mark of. Beets gone I mean not first and second radio there was there was guys in the front, but there was a few a few points left. So, tomorrow again, you know that's they may sprint for that sprint, but it's it's basically an insignificant because Bennett is going to beat him in the sprint. So I think that that battle is over and and as I said, I don't know if I said yesterday on on on our podcast if wasn't Lhamo Vida. But the rest of the Jersey are going to Slovenia. Up. Today that they got shot were a sprinted for points on the motherland, and then with his third place, get gets points on the on the finishing climb, and he's now also wear the leader in the Polkadot Jersey. You know finally we have been causing out of out of the polkadot by the way you know I mean I kind of feel bad for for. Because I know lands has been critical of the POLKADOT, Jersey and. This guy obviously you know he's he's in, he was in the Jersey because he was in certain breakaways and he got points and then it's kind of normal you keep fighting for it. You know. But let's not forget this guy was world champion under twenty three three years ago. In I. Don't know where it was. It wasn't Scandinavia somewhere. He he was first and second was Leonard now. In the world championship. So anybody who was a world champion and lands knows because he's been world champion when he was young rider. Is a good writer. So you know he's obviously not the best climber out there but. Anyway. Now I think you know. It happened when everybody was expected to happen that this guy is not in the Polka Dot Jersey anymore. He had his time in the spotlight I think and well deserved. But but finally, Char is now in polkadot and I was I'm wondering what kind of Jersey's going to wear tomorrow actually if the if the POLKA DOT Jersey takes priority over the White Jersey or not. Because Otherwise, the so if he if he's leading in those two competitions than. I would have to check but. Maybe, maybe because the frost still wears it because it goes to second guy, then you know. In the issue. I mean. They have to wear it just because you know for sponsoring exposure of course, the company was sponsors. That does vacation once you know once the exposure but So I'm wondering which kind of Jersey blocher is GonNa Tomorrow if the White Jersey is more important than the King of the Mountains Jersey I don't know. I would. I would assume they just come out on the podium twice and go through the ceremony twice they do they do know that that's that's what happens but might. In the race, another guy will were eater, the Polka, Dot Jersey or the White Jersey. The second the second guy that classification. Somebody needs to be in their make sense. I know another thing that you wanted to make note of. Was the abandonment of Mikhail Near the yeah. Yeah I mean you know meka nervous probably a ride at Knott's that's not very known to the main public but you know he abandoned today also was involved in crashes in the first few stages and. Meka near has until today had finished eighteen grand tours after after each other, it's the first time he has to abandon his in his nineteenth participation in the grand tour. That's a little tour. So I I'm I am abandoned says something about the toughness and the quality of a writer. But the fact that he abandoned today was obviously that you know he he didn't have it anymore. You know it was too much. By. The way he's thirty six years old now. So maybe more years in them who knows Yeah. This. Is. First of all, he wants stages in wealth he when stages in Jiro. Easy rider that you know any theme with with higher he maybe I'm probably staying at Mitchell don't call I don't know. but he's obviously a very valued writer value very good helper. Very good. Would you like question here Johan Okay Get. This here. More people asking about your dogs. Now. Here we go. This is for Johann UTAH. talked a lot in the last couple of days about Bernal and being a young guy dealing with family and pressure. if you were poor Gotcha director or for that matter, any of these other young highly successful riders would advice would you give them for on and off the bike to deal with the pressure and fame that's from Lucas in Slovenia? Okay Slovenia? We have listeners over the world but obviously enslow Slovenia cycling his hugely popular and. Our and now nowadays I think it must be madness in that country about cycling. I cannot happen. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean you know I think that the advice I would give to these young guys is first of all, make sure. that. because obviously you know if they're successful, they're going to they're they're they're famous and they're gonNA start to earn. Big Contracts. And Make sure that the people who are around you are people you can trust. I ideally ideally the best kind of advisors or your family. You know whether they are whether they are. Coming from cycling background or not I think those are your best advisors. It's so so easy to make a mistake. To kind of associated with a flashy. you know somebody who who talks really well, who wants to be a wants to represent you and. you know a lot of a lot of young athletes. Fall for this and then you know they, they have a bad experience. So. That's the first thing, and then secondly, of course. Obviously they all they're all different right I mean some people some young guys are easy to to steer and then utter utter guys. They have their own temperament and it's it's more difficult a guy like Papa for example, I see him as a very simple young kit. It up today he says, you know I'm twenty one years old or he he's about to turn twenty two I think just off to the Tour de France. But you know and ride my bike. That's what I like to do and there's nothing there's nothing more to it. You know so. We'll see how this will change because. Okay, he's obviously. Famous already in Slovenia after after last his last year season and you know becoming third in the. In the WELTE and having such huge performances. But you know this is this is something else you know Tour de France just on another level so There's a there's a danger desert risk you know and so obviously try to you know. tried to advise him. You know. Obviously, have to motivate them and you have to say you know it's unbelievable what you do praise them. But. Also, you know make sure that they stay with their feet on the ground and that you know you're inside cling always the same. You know you're only as good as your last result. You have to try to every time. There's a new race you have to perform again and you have to prove it again right And So yeah. I mean, I think it's more. It's more a matter of trying to keep them calm and make sure that they are especially especially businesswise. Surrounded with it. The right people that's I think that's the biggest danger for young writer. I bet it's hard to tell when you get. All this new found fame and money or whatever it is that who there they lose sight of who they're true friends are yeah. Yeah I. Mean That's I. Think it's logical it. So difficult we we've talked already about this before job. Better now. And I remember you told me that you know when you were at age if you would have had a lot of money, you would be dead. But you know so. It's not it's nothing new. But but yeah, I mean you have to constantly try to keep them. Keep them. You know with their feet on the ground and and you know. Not, give them too much privileges although they will. They will start to think that they deserve certain privileges within the team and always make sure that they're you know. In a team, they are part of a team and the team is always more important than one ryder. That's I think that's the key. Very good on that note will wrap up today's guy this is winding down quickly it always does that the last week just starts to go by really. We're almost there. We're almost there. You know what? I mean tomorrow last mountains, and then we can. You know we can see to the Eiffel, tower? Yeah. Wants to be over the Moors mountains, there's the Eiffel Tower in front of us. So. You're running out of time to get your questions into Johann place in those in the movie we do. Dot, team. And we'll talk tomorrow. Johan. Okay. Thank you very much tomorrow.
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"Russian protesters detained by the hundreds this weekend in Moscow including Daniel Salton takover who live stream the entire event. I didn't even know this. Police fant arrived. I was trying to save them journalists. Jodi police may have cleared the streets of Moscow fast but the demonstrators vowed to return in even bigger numbers and China's social credit system. It's not what a lot of people people. I thought the main misconception is that it's a rating system for all citizens that there's some sort of a number that's going up and down like in the nosedive episode of Black Mirror plus pure joy in Columbia after native son on wins the Tour de France. I'm Marco Werman. The story is a much more today. You're on the world large protests in Moscow. Let's go over the weekend got ugly. Police arrested more than thirteen hundred people that is unprecedented in recent Russian history. The demonstrations were about the Moscow city council elections coming coming up in September and the fact that Moscow election commission barred opposition candidates from running Alexei Navalny is probably the most well-known opposition leader in Russia. He was not among those arrested on Saturday as because navalny was already in prison season he was detained last week and yesterday Nova only was reportedly taken from jail to a hospital with some kind of severe allergic reaction. That's like speculation and fears that he was poisoned so what is going on here. Daniel certain covers covering all of this for T._v.. Rain Independent Television Channel in Russia joins US now from Moscow described Anna what it's been like for protesters in the streets a mosque over the past couple of days so it was not my first protests but this one the police tried to intimidate they started detaining random people on the streets. The police goal was to keep the street empty but they didn't succeed the crowd begin to grow and the police were trying into divide the crowd there were not Internet connection no cell phone connection and at this point. Nobody knew what's going on. That's when the police started to detain people and to act more aggressively. I've never seen something like that. Before for. The huge crowd was working on the streets of Moscow yelling some slogans and nobody was controlling them dental. What was the crowd actually yelling so there were mainly slug aunts they mostly yell subject about Putin Putin? There's a piece and should go away. The main slogan was to let them be elected about the candidates for Moscow elections at some important crowd also started seeing national anthem and that's also the first time I heard something like that. The crowd had the Russian flex and Russia and them as symbols of this protest. That's completely in you and I think that maybe people are understood that they're together united and that's why they choose to sing Russian and them and the go with the Flex Dunhill <hes> let's switch gears to <hes> Alexei navalny and what he's been going through. He was in prison and then yesterday was hospitalized. I know you're covering the story. You were actually outside the hospital where he was hospitalized. What were you able to learn so oh yeah? Yesterday I read about his hospitalizations and that I was just a suspicion that it might be more that story than just allergic reaction but after his doctor wrote that it might be poisoning understood understood that people will probably go to his hospital and I always nearby so I decided to go there as journalists and I started stream at the Buccellati rush. Tell our viewers what's going on comment. I didn't didn't even notice the police event and in the few seconds I was detained. They put me in the police van. I was trying to save time journalists journalist and in a few seconds they cleared the streets entirely. Everybody was the thank you I. It's it's pretty stunning because you continue your commentary as you're being detained and as you said you're crying out journalists journalists journalists and even in darker the police van you keep on reporting. I gotTa say you're pretty. You're pretty brave. Actually that's a normal thing for us goes. I think all of our correspondence was the thing that some point of their career and it's really good action in in the stream so you have to understand the people still watching you and when you got the van it's even more important to continue streaming of the people are thank with you and they don't have the same rights as you as journalists but after half an hour the police they asked who is present is Anita here I answered and they put me on the street back on the street and I continued my work and oldest people who was dangerous me. They was brutal police station and released only in the morning warning dental. There's another protest slated for next weekend. What are you expecting to see next week and Andy think any attempts to stop next? Weekend's protests could be more aggressive over the coming days. I think it's just too early to say because if authorities will say yes you can go here and there on this square or that street that will be one type of furthest and if authorities will again choose the more aggressive way and we'll say no you may not go on the tweet that will be completely front and another factor is that all their leaders of the protest are now in jail and we'll be jailed they Saturday so will be the protest without leaders on the street. Daniel Putnikov is a journalist with T._v.. Rain speaking with us about the protests in Moscow and attempts by authorities to stop his reporting dino. Thanks very much. Thank you thank you. Another high level departure from the trump administration is coming. It's not entirely surprised but it is a big one got some breaking news here president trump just tweeting that he will be replacing the current Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats in his tweet just moments ago the President Roh quote. I am pleased to announce that highly respected the congressman John Radcliffe of Texas will be nominated by me to be the director of National Intelligence Coats had tense relationship at the president over some high profile security threats including Russia Iran and North Korea. The President says that he's going to nominee Texas Republican congressman John Radcliffe to replace Dan Coats as the director of National Intelligence Ratcliffe aggressively question former special counsel Robert Mueller last week in defense of the president. I agree with the chairman this morning when he said Donald Trump is not above the law he's not but he dam sure shouldn't be below the law which is where volume two of this puts him. The Director of National Intelligence is America's top intelligence official. The DNA and I oversee the C._I._A.. And Sixteen other U._S. by agencies the position was created in the aftermath of September eleventh two thousand one. There was no silver bullet that could've prevented the nine eleven attacks. That's former national security advisor Condoleeza Bryce speaking in two thousand four in hindsight. If anything might have helped stop nine eleven it would have been better information about threats inside the United States something made very difficult by structural and legal impediments. That's prevented the collection and sharing of information by law enforcement and intelligence agencies a couple of months later President George W Bush signed the intelligence reform and Prevention Act into law creating the new position of director of National Intelligence Deligence The D._N._R.. Authority or the collection of new intelligence sharing information among agencies Wisconsin for the intelligence communities personnel deny controlled goals budgets briefs the President Daily on national security threats but maybe most importantly the D._N._A.. Is supposed to prevent the kind of bureaucratic snafus that kept U._S.. Intelligence agencies from stopping the attacks on September eleventh fair to say it is a serious various job yesterday Senator Mark Warner the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee tweeted that the mission of denies to speak truth to power by most accounts. Dan Coats stayed true to that mission but what about Donald Trump's pick for the job Republican congressman in John Ratcliffe the Senate will have to confirm Ratcliffe as deny Democrats and reportedly some Republicans are wondering if he's too political for the position carry Cordeiro was a senior attorney in the office of the Director of National Intelligence the Oh the D._N._A.. She's now a fellow at the Center for a new American security in Washington. I asked her first about Ratcliffe experience well. He has a different background than the prior individuals who have served as director of National Intelligence. It's all of the prior denies have either been intelligence professionals themselves over decades of experience or have had long government careers in the executive branch where they have been consumers of intelligence information. John Radcliffe doesn't have that deep of a background as those other individuals he has been some time as a congressional overseer and he's been a U._S.. Attorney in the Justice Department but counts for something though right it does come for something. He's a member of Congress. He served on the Intelligence Committee. I don't think he had a long tenure there as for his U._S. Attorney Record I would expect during his confirmation process that his record <music> as U._S.. Attorney will be scrutinized. He was the US attorney in the Eastern District of Texas. I can't immediately think of any major national security case that I'm aware of that was handled in that district while he was the U._S.. Attorney Attorney <hes> but I'm sure that record will be scrutinized during the confirmation process. What would all this mean if he's confirmed in terms of the safety the average person out there <hes> from things like <hes> foreign and domestic terrorism well remember remember? The Director of National Intelligence does not lead in operational national security agency so he sits up high and is implementing policy to make sure that the intelligence community is working properly but he is responsible people for the briefing that goes to senior policy makers and to the president and so the concern is that high level intelligence assessments for example threats about future foreign hostile state efforts to interfere in our elections which is a big picture issue he would be responsible for making sure that the best intelligence assessment gets to the president and given for example his performance in the hearing of Special Counsel Muller last week where He. Really came across as quite partisan the concerns that I think will be aired in his confirmation hearing pertain to whether or not he really is willing and capable of being an impartial communicator of considered considered intelligence assessment or whether he will be <hes> malleable to the president's interests in determining what intelligence information is. I mean Donald Trump either denies or doesn't want to believe that the Russians were involved evolved in the last election and hacking even said Putin told them they didn't do it and he believed him does Donald Trump want an intelligence yes-men next to him who will allow foreign entities metal in the next election well it certainly he looks from his administration that he has gotten rid of either through firing or forced resignations cabinet leaders or senior advisors who have been willing to <hes> challenge pam on these types of issues including national security issues so I we don't know whether or not he was considering removing director of National Intelligence Coats before or after he formed that Task Force focused on twenty twenty election security but it certainly is a question that needs to be raised during the confirmation hearing and so far the president had been consistent in his lack of presidential L. leadership to develop a whole of government strategy to counter election interference efforts the New York Times is reporting that Senator Richard Burr warned the White House that John Ratcliffe was to political for the job of deny. How certain is reckless recluse confirmation at this point? Well I think chairman bur the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee issued a statement today saying that once Congressman Ratcliffe has been formally nominated the committee will engage in its process according to regular order so <hes> certainly they'll take up the nomination. I did not read his statement to be a rousing endorsement <hes> but we'll see how that process plays out carry Cordeiro fellow at the Center for a new American security in Washington. Thank you for your time. Thanks so much at the World Dot O._R._G.. And on the radio you're listening to the world. The world's podcast is brought to you by Goldman Sachs tax for insights from leading thinkers Goldman Sachs on the state of Markets Industries and the global economy listened to the podcast exchanges at Goldman Sachs. You'll hear discussions on a variety of topics from a variety of sectors with far reaching implications including global in regional growth forecasts finding value in today's investing climate the impact of technology on markets and much much more. That's exchanges at Goldman Sachs available on Apple podcasts spotify stitcher soundcloud and Google play and G._S.. Dot Com slash podcast. I'm Marco Werman. You're with the world protests in Hong Kong or not letting up over the weekend. Police demonstrators clashed in the streets again was not clear here is how it will all end mets got some Hong Kong business leaders worried the American Chamber of Commerce in Hong Kong is the biggest international business association in the territory. It's now calling on the Hong Kong government to address protesters demands Tara. Joseph is president of the chamber well. I've lived in Hong Kong for almost seventeen years so I've been through the umbrella movement. I've been through lots of changes. These protests feel different because it's hard to know where the leadership leadership is. They've been going on for eight weeks without any end in sight and there is a feeling of pessimism and a sense of not knowing when this is going to end and that hurts the business sentiment so what exactly he is the American Chamber of Commerce in Hong Kong asking both Hong Kong invasion governing powers to do here what we'd really like to see are two things one is a sense of adherence to one country to systems and and that's very important framework for business. The other thing is that the Hong Kong government come out with a strong communication about how they intend to move forward to restore business confidence confidence. It's been very quiet over the last few weeks understandably. There's been some wrestling with how to deal with this but in order not to lose the faith and comfort of the international business community that really helps. What's this city tick? It's important to be out there and restoring business confidence. What have you heard from members of the American Chamber of Commerce like where have they lost confidence? What what specific incidents well as a feeling that it's hard are to know whether they'll be further encroachments from Beijing for example or whether there's a real way to help these protests end and to sue the fears of the protesters also whether the government can can move forward with so many important initiatives to move Hong Kong up the value chain both in the digital economy and in building links with the Greater Bay area or Shenzhen and other parts of southern southern China? All of those efforts at the Hong Kong government is talked about but have now been stalled because everything's focused on these protests so with the American Chamber of Commerce in Hong Kong essentially calling on the governments to address protesters demands. I mean if it's not a precise political position it does sound like the chambers inserting itself into politics. Is this unprecedented in where you considering what reaction would be it is very difficult time because for business chambers czar real hope is to focus on business but we have reached a point where politics are blurring in to business sentiment it is unusual for us as a business chamber to speak out about about politics. It's happened a few times over the course of our fifty year history but it is rare but we have reached an important inflection point for Hong Kong and four a Hong Kong to continue being a strong the Premier International Business Center in Asia. It's important for us to speak out so how far is the American Chamber of Commerce willing to go and making a some kind of political pusher well. That's the difficult question tonight. We have a constant regular dialogue with the Hong Kong government. We went very far in terms of the extradition bill. We were very outspoken about feeling the need for that to be withdrawn at at least shelved and that was something that we felt very very strongly about. I mean it does seem like that. Extradition Bill has been shelved would more confidence arrived for businesses in Hong Kong. If it were officially terminated I think more confidence would be built because the protesters feel very strongly about the bill being withdrawn to alleviate the fears of it coming back. If Hong Kong doesn't maintain that real confidence in one country to systems then people really could start to enact backup plants there are other cities in Asia that are becoming increasingly competitive Beijing as you know has army units in Hong Kong. At what point do you worry that they could be mobilized. It seems unlikely and that really would be the worst case scenario. I think it was generally comforting today to hear from Beijing authorities that they were pushing the ball back into Hong Kong's Court to deal with it. It would be a very very difficult state of affairs if the P._L._A.. were to leave their garrisons and I think people would see that as something like a last last approach Tara Joseph President of the American Chamber Chamber of Commerce in Hong Kong speaking with us from Hong Kong. Thanks very much Tara. Thank you megadeath Patera slayer. You don't have to be a head Banger to know I'm talking about heavy metal now. I don't WanNa go peddling stereotypes here but one thing I've never associated with metal is knitting that is until I learned about the first ever heavy metal knitting world championship it Israel and my b._B._C. colleague Claire McDonnell is here to prove it heavy metal knitting any idea well. It's a team event the knitter or Niggers Nitzan stage in front of and in time with a heavy metal band not convince well. Let's hear from a woman who is spy name Netti Costa. I was the first ever Paerson in the world to be onstage netting too heavy metal heavy metal knitting is basically says on the ten of mixture heavy NATO meeting. Someone had the billion idea to combine the ball and create this first heavy metal knitting world championship that championship has just taken place in the town of your suit in Finland Finland with twelve finalists from Denmark Finland. Japan Latvia Russia Sweden the U._S. and the U._K.. You can wear anything fancy dress preferred you can perform anyhow you like and as Nutley explains you can knit with anything I net with unusual materials to take it to new dimension pretty much ninety percent use recycled materials and their two bjarne is actually quite sick. You can't make too you think because it might break or stretch and but it makes it really quite tough to admit I saw quite smelly Giga Body metal from Japan took home the top prize less knitting more sumo wrestling it has to be said but the jury rate the performance is by attitude performance skills audience reaction and by their heavy knitting hurt Denmark's crafts came in second with needles from the U._S.. Placing third and if you'll still not convinced about this marriage between haberdashery and head banging while the organized say metal music is all about the rhythm and so is knitting and that league race a more people have told me what what are you doing what heavy metal hey the link up and knitting or Khushi or any kind of takes work. There's a gain of rhythm took which was very well with maple just late goal pointless just net the B._B._C.'s Claire McDonnell reporting. We'll be right back. You're listening to the world in the latest season of the things that go boom podcast. We explore why no one worries much about nuclear war anymore and maybe why we should things that go boom unpacked. The Iran nuclear deal complete with secret missions burial plots a crying Jag. Bag and a false alarm about armageddon things that go boom a dramatic look at the twenty first century nuclear threat get it where you grab your podcasts China's social credit system might seem like eight dystopia nightmare simply away for the Chinese government to track all its citizens one of the things that people get interested in social credit force that they believe that it's a holistic integration of all of our digital footprint and it's not so what is it then exactly that's still ahead here on the world. I'm Marco Werman and here with the world where co-production of the B._B._C. World Service W G._B._H.. P._R._I. N._P._R.. Ex a few years ago the Chinese government announced an ambitious new program to assess the trustworthiness of its citizens. You might have heard about China's so-called social social credit system already thought the way facebook tracks you was scary. It's got nothing on the Chinese government which just unveiled a system of monitoring and grading every citizen's behavior you by how you behave is tracked China wants to great. It's one point three billion people based on how good or bad of a citizen they've been. It sounds like that show black mirror but it's not science fiction in China. It's a reality a lot of that. Marco turns out isn't true. That's the world's Lydia Mentally who's in the studio with me so I've been looking at this system with reporter Louise Matsakis over at wired magazine and she's on the line from New York so in the next few minutes. Lydia and I arrogant explain why a lot of what you just heard about China's social credit system isn't true but there are a lot of reasons that you should still be paying close attention to it anyway and I we want to tell you about how this all started and to find out we reached out to Jay Stanley who wrote one of the first pieces in English about the social credit system. He's a senior policy analyst for the A._C._l._U.. The American Civil Liberties Union aren't paid to be paranoid. I'm paid to worry about the dark side of technology the and how it can serve authoritarian impulses in government and incorporations so it's twenty fifteen and Stanley start seeing social media posts and reports about this you know really nightmarish sounding ending system China's social credit system so he's reading that by twenty twenty everyone in China will have this social credit score which supposedly signals how obedient you are as a citizen and dictates your rights and freedoms so if you do things with the Chinese government thinks Sir responsible like buying diapers for your kid your score might go up if you do things that are irresponsible in the eyes of the government like playing too many video games your score will go down a highest where means you could get say an expedited travel visa whereas a low score means. You can't Ryan public transportation or maybe you or your kids won't be able to go to a private school. You know I possess zero expertise on China <hes> but I thought this was worth injecting into discussion because it seemed seemed like such a crystal clear distillation of a lot of the DYSTOPIA and fears that we Americans have about system that we could be drifting towards Stanley was really outraged about what he was reading so he quickly wrote a blog post on the email us website mm say which was titled China's Nightmares Citizens Scores are a warning for Americans. The piece got a lot of attention. It got a lot of hits in terms of people reading it on the A._C._l._U.. Site it were there was a flurry of discussion in reaction to it. At the time time it was picked up created a media discussion including people saying that it wasn't all accurate right away and then about three days later Stanley in the A._C._l._U. issued an update at the bottom of post which said that it wasn't based on any first-hand knowledge of China China. We should note that Stanley the A._C._l._U.. They weren't the first ones to get this story wrong and they certainly weren't the last I mean pretty soon. After the type of coverage we heard a little earlier was all over the place and so many of us in the news news media and we include ourselves at the world and wired we didn't get it totally right and the story in this narrative it percolated up to the highest levels of government even vice president. Mike Pence jumped on board here. He is speaking at the Hudson Send Institute which is a conservative think-tank back in two thousand eighteen by twenty twenty China's rulers aimed at implement an Orwellian system premised on controlling virtually every facet of human life the so-called social credit score for it will allow the trustworthy to Rome everywhere under heaven while making it hard for the discredited to take a single step when Jeremy Dom heard what pence said and what news outlets way reporting it kind of outraged because it was just so wrong dom by the way is with Yale Law Schools China's center in Beijing. I've joked before that you know saying that you believe that is going to truly imprison. The untrustworthy worthy and give great powers to the trustworthy is sort of like seeing mcgruff. The Crime Dog said we're going to take a bite out of crime and thinking America's implementing a new biting campaign against criminals damn has spent a lot of his time over the past few New Year's translating government directives and other legal documents related to the program and trying to debunk the misconceptions that have taken over the Western media narrative. The main misconception is that it's a rating system for all citizens <hes> that there's some sort of a number that's going up and down like in the nosedive episode of Black Mirror and that's just not the case social credit isn't actually about a rating system for citizens even more outrageous. He says is the idea that this whole the thing is powered by an all seeing government surveillance system. I think that one of the things that people get interested in social credit for that. They believe that it's a holistic integration of all of our digital footprint and it's not that what social credit is is a measure of compliance with regulations laws and legal obligations. Did you catch that compliance mechanism. That's basically what this entire system boils down to yeah and it's meant into address something that Jet Chan researcher in Taiwan who's been looking at China's social credit system says happens pretty often on the mainland so people break the law and then essentially they dodged the consequences. It's being years that Chinese of course had this problem. That's called juicy none. She's talking about this noncompliance problem. So what's the good to get a court judgment if you can enforce it right. Here's what she means. Lets you lose a lawsuit. In the court requires you to pay a fine but you refuse to pay in the past that might have been the end of the story but now China has this social credit system and you would end up on a digital rob she with call the blacklist so the government labels you as someone Dan untrustworthy seeing and your blacklist status will be share among government agencies. They're special punishments that come with being on this blacklist which is special list for people who haven't paid their court finds and other her dad's you might get banned from taking planes and trains and there's also this kind of frightening public shaming component so your picture might be displayed on the news in social media APPS or and other public places and Louise. You're talking about a very special blacklist list for people who haven't paid their court finds you said but there are also all these other ones aimed at companies and executives in China and the goal with those blacklists is partly to get them to comply with industry standards and laws so let's take food safety standards for example China has had a lot of scandals in this area in recent years like the really high profile one involving baby formula about ten years ago as China's tainted milk scandal spreads across the country anxious parents are keeping local hospitals busy in the past those company executives might simply start another company reincorporate under another name and just keep doing business but now the company and the people responsible for the violation would end up on a blacklist and they could face punishments like you know not being able to hold the position at another food company or they might be denied some industry permits or licenses and each industry has its own blacklist its own punishments punishments and there are more than forty these blacklists and Lydia that sharing amongst government agencies that Chen brought up earlier. That's really what's key here because you're gonNA finish punishments and more than just the food industry like if you get in trouble with the Food and Drug Administration they might share their blacklists with say the Environmental Protection Agency who might give you additional punishments and this is why the slogan of this whole system is choices seeing tool chosen meaning that if your trust breaking in one area yeah in one place you will suffer restrictions everywhere those penalties though you only get them if you violate existing laws and regulations and by the way for the most part here we're talking about cases of civil and administrative administrative law not criminal cases so in reality this whole system is just a bunch of spreadsheets that make up this larger database that government officials and the public can search search through so where all this stuff about a distortion high-tech scoring system come from well some lost in translation the free social credit doesn't have the same connotations in Chinese that doesn't English and even if you are fluent in Chinese can be really hard to interpret these dense legal documents and what the Chinese government really means right and part of it is also our perception of China here in the West. The reality is that this is a really really early complicated system and even though we can't get into all the details there is one other component we should touch on. That's caused a lot of the confusion around the scores so there are a few cities in China that are piloting so-called good citizen point systems so if you do good deed like charity or volunteer work you might get small perks like discounted bus fare right and shouldn't die. WHO's a professor of law at Ocean University of China he told us about some of these pilots that are going on in a couple of cities is one of the perks is that if you do certain good deeds like donating blood or volunteering you get a discount at the library? The other day journalist was trying to try this. Basically they went to the library in the library. Stop didn't really we know this this thing so not even the library staff knew they were supposed to be offering this perk to people with good scores and that's something we heard over and over again that most people have no idea how these systems actually work or that they even exist. I and Xintai told us that having this type of scoring program happening on a national level would be pretty much impossible it would just be too massive of coordination effort and it would require the government in Beijing to keep tabs in A. Way It just hasn't been able to so far but just because the system isn't as scary as it's been described in a lot of western media reports. It doesn't mean that it's not problematic and a lot of other ways people still have serious concerns about it. Including Guja Chen Taiwan this system is is imposing layers of disproportionate arbitrary and y Ranjin punishment people who have already suffered consequences of law violations is or regulation violations for example just because you didn't pay a court fine does that mean you shouldn't be able to write on an airplane. She and other legal scholars are questioning the basis for these kinds of additional restrictions. They're worried about proportionality does the punishment really fit the crime and they're worried about the programs future and the ways that it might evolve especially given what the Chinese government has already proven. It's very capable of doing and if you look at Shing-chung then you you really see a ali-aliens state in action Xinjiang region in northwest China. They're the Chinese government is accused of detaining surveilling and persecuting millions of Muslim weaker and other ethnic and religious minorities and the government. That's doing that that that's the same government working on the social credit system. It's also a government with a track record of human rights violations and government that historically hasn't been too transparent. We shouldn't under estimate the efforts or is that need to be put into in order to develop <hes> social credit system into a complete surveillance scheme. We don't think Chinese government will necessarily necessarily be successful in its endeavor but we know it has been trying and that's why Chen and other say they'll be watching closely for the world. I'm Lydia mentally do in Boston and I'm Louise and that's I guess with wired magazine in New York. That story is part of our collaboration with wired to read more go to our website the World Dot O._R._G.. It's officially been twenty five years since Scotty was found Scotty is the largest Taran sors rex rex fossil in the world scientist. I discovered parts of the fossil in the Canadian provinces Saskatchewan back in Nineteen ninety-one. Tim Two CHARAC- works at the T. Rex Discovery Center at the Royal Saskatchewan Museum. He was part of the discovery team. He says it took three years just to confirm their find. The key moment came when they dug up the dinosaurs jaw with teeth still inside after finding it realizing what it was sort of running around the hills for about five minutes screaming kind of figure okay hey. How are we going to get this multi ton animal outta here it was an exciting discovery two CHARAC- says but the excavation process was made more complicated by the terrain documents are often found in a flat level and this discount was not wasn't like a forty foot chicken lying on it side? It was regurgitated Omelette. The bones are all over the place with no rhyme or reason which Wong was going to which part at that site Tim two CHARAC- says discovering Scotty the T. REX help help put Saskatchewan on the map for paleontologists. It really brought to the four of billing policy in the sense that Scott he's a T.. Rex is marquee animal. There are so much more fossils in the area I drive save an hour's drive <hes> distance around the town and discover seventy five million years of history as for Scotty. The name of T. Rex came from a bottle of Scotch when we decided to name it <hes> that was the only liquor we had left in camp. That's the common cause for you. Call Scotty so I think there is a bottle of Scotch somewhere that <hes> media opened for toast. Well jeers discover the T. Rex the trump administration wants Guatemala's help with the migrant crisis this when migrants heading north to the U._s. from El Salvador Honduras cross into Guatemala. They must stop and seek asylum there. I that is the gist of a new agreement. Guatemala has signed onto with the U._S.. Here's one problem though Guatemala does not have the track record of granting asylum reporter. Emily Green is spent time there. She says the agreement with the U._S.. Might Mean Guatemala will soon be overwhelmed with asylum-seekers well. We're talking about our potentially hundreds of thousands of migrants from El Salvador and Honduras who would no longer qualify for asylum in the U._S. right so they would have to stop in Guatemala that third country on their way north. I mean it's ironic that the White House is calling Guatemala a safe third-country when Guatemala zone citizens have been fleeing into the U._S. at a higher rate then residents of any other nation. What kind of numbers are we talking about and will the Guatemalan authorities actually be able to absorb those numbers of migrants seeking asylum last year around fifty seven thousand hundreds and Salvadorians Orange reached the United States many of them looking for asylum so big numbers and Guatemala has four four asylum officers in the entire country? Wow Yeah it's nothing in right now. It only gets around a couple of one hundred asylum claims a year and even those claims it hasn't been able to easily processed in fact it hasn't resolved a single asylum claim all of last year and all of this year so far so I talked with an official within the Guatemalan government and he just said to me he has no idea what the administration of President Jimmy Morales was thinking when it signed the agreement and that he even wonders if to some degree the administration was just sort of assuming assuming that migrants would get Guatemala they would see that it was a dead end and turnaround emily. You've also been speaking with a number of Guatemalan lawmakers about this deal. What have you heard from them? On the whole quite critical they say the country has its own massive problems terms of poverty and violence around fifty percent of Guatemalans live below the national poverty line in last year around two hundred and fifty thousand Guatemalans fled their country and tried to get to the U._S.. So I talked to one Congressman Eamon about the deal his name is Marcus Yaks and here's what he had to say catastophic by what he thinks the deal is going to have catastrophic consequences for Guatemala. He says if we in Guatemala haven't haven't even been able to deal with their own migratory problems. We're going to have even less success dealing with the migratory problems of other countries apparently though this deal also has support is in Guatemala right yes and it has its aren't ardent supporters. I spoke with Congressman Fernando Leonardus belter Nina and here's what he had to say. I'm sure that the United States will give us the refugee camps which when the threat of mass of caravans ceases well we cancel stand watermelon and also it will move the economy because to build a refugee camp requires a lot of workers a lot of providers. There's a lot of food trucks while so that Guatemalan lawmaker likes the deal because he sees refugee camps as being good for the economy and we'll bring in food trucks right and I'd like to know that he's not the only lawmaker who mentioned the possibility of refugee camps to me several did and the idea is that migrants wouldn't arrived to Guatemala and then be released where they would then pursue their asylum claim they would arrive to Guatemala be apprehended and put into refugee camps. I guess one way to view this plan. Is that the U._S.. CanNot handle all the asylum seekers and wants to slow things down another view is that the U._S. is outsourcing. It's migrant detention centers to another country which view would most Guatemalan say is more more accurate. The deal in Guatemala is deeply unpopular at the same time. There's a recognition that it was made with a gun to the head so to speak president trump threatened damaging tariffs on and Guatemalan products and perhaps most importantly he threatened attacks remittances sent by Guatemalans and the U._S. back home in those remittances. They count for roughly ten percent of Guatemala's G._D._p.. Over over the weekend hundreds of protesters gathered before the Presidential Palace in Guatemala City in many were holding signs at said Essentially Morales handed over the sovereignty of our country to the U._S. reporter Emily Green in Mexico City. Thanks very very much for your time. Emily thank you something happened this past weekend that broke the record books of the Tour de France Egon Bernal became the youngest cyclist youngest in one hundred ten years anyway to win the world's most prestigious cycling race the twenty two year old is from Columbia. That's also unprecedented and as I South American to win ever as you can imagine all of Columbia not to mention a lot of Latin America is celebrating reporter. Beto Argus is based in Los Angeles but just happens to A. B. in Columbia at the moment where he's attending forty seventh annual international music and arts festival in Boyaca Hey Beto Hey Marco great to be with you. You know this is a very important moment especially for Columbia right now because this is not just just about the sport this is about a Colombian who gets to the very top of the world and you know I'm from Mexico but who cares I'm a Latin American and all that in America is celebrating this amazing win by this young cyclists would just blew people away. So what have you been able to learn about this twenty two year old egg Bernal. You know he's from a small town. He's from a town about two hours away from Bogota capital. He's this kind of amazing young kid there. Is this incredible cultural cycling. That's been taken over the country for the last decade so this is something that people already expected to happen. It was a matter of when just happened to be yesterday so right so there's this culture of cycling in Columbia. Is there also something about the terrain of Columbia that kind of just breeds strong cyclists. I actually drove around yesterday. In small towns in fact we ran into a couple of cyclist who were behind them. There was a van of course because they want to be protected because traffic is crazy. They drive in these very small to lane roads and also by the way this is also very high so the altitude is very important to is cycling the new soccer for some Colombians. This is the second wants to borden sported Columbia and Columbia. It has been pretty well in soccer recently but nothing like as big as this you know they've never been able to win the World Cup. This is the World Cup of cycling. They couldn't come at a better time. Marco in fact there's Asanga Carlos vs wrote last year and he's he's one of the big rockstars superstars Columbia and it's a song the peso march to the new generation of cyclists. I'll say when one there's dares wins. It's everybody it's all of Columbia. beddoe Arcos joining us from boiled Columbia but thanks for your time. My pleasure think is much more. Thanks for being with us this Monday. The world's theme music was composed by reporter. We come to you from the Nanan Bill Harris Studios at W. G._B._H.. In Boston I'm Marco Werman will see a back here tomorrow.
2019 Tour de France Stage 6
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I'm lifting. Do we not have anything in the Dome Tom this money wait observation not always lifting he's the guy lifting with his phone on. He's always got his phone on him but we know we have nothing that we can talk about on our rides and in our early morning texts or not in the dove the tree of trust and this is good anyhow we're talking about stage six Q our friend Atlanta Z number six to upload fee lose sound launched it so French hundred and sixty kilometers one hundred miles thirteen thousand feet of climbing bunch of categorized climbs exciting day but before we get into the action let's talk about. Let's do a little business <music>. 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It's awesome so I've been rockin this for quite some time to also get back to George. Don't worry thank you. Let's get to the rice aint talking about stage six. I have to say and I said it after was stage two when Julian was so impressive how entertaining it was like we need more like what we saw today. Whatever you gotta do to make it like that though some grappling throw some twenty plus percent in Rosa attacks like if you didn't enjoy that then you need to go you know pick up a weaving or something because I thought it was awesome I loved it? I today was super exciting. I woke up very early. Lifting their early moves. Watch my IPAD while I'm doing my stretching and lifting <hes> but what a day I mean I thought I thought at first to coo nick was kind of happened there. I I didn't think they should've never should've let the breakway at eight minutes. That's a long time to make up his especially in <hes> those it's kind of roads up and down all day long twisty turny makes it tough once you give a strong group that eight minutes to bring them back well. Everybody was talking about yesterday that Allah Phillipe's going to let it yellow which did happen. But might not have happened like you say if de Koonig had been just a little on the ball just a bit more rest held onto a yellow. What was the maximum gap eighty five minutes he would have kept the Jersey with turns out <hes> <hes> surprisingly easier than we would have imagined his he was super he was in fact? It was one of the strongest guys there at the end you went with kate ago or just underpaid ago and I'm barely st part at a ton left at the finish and I'm GONNA throw it out here said he mentioned not before the show. I have my new. My picks. Were not there today. Valverde was put up there early. Do some work which I was very surprised to see. Nibley did not look great today but when you podium picks I was GonNa say Gary Thomas Allah Felipe Tibo Piano and full saying is still in there for the hunt Google song. I think he will recover and definitely battle it out for the podium if not more I I knew I knew you were going to say that and you deserve to say that in Allah Felipe deserves for people to be talking about that I mean look I guess I sort of backed into my prediction being right that the only reason it was right and that he lost the Yellow Jersey as ah George said gate minutes. I mean for a team just the difference in their effort to keep it at six minutes is minimal exactly. It's very minimal so you know to lose it by six seconds. I guess like I said at backed into getting right but boy his move at the end. It wasn't like when like they let him go. I mean those guys had all of them are guaranteed Thomas Bernal bar day out the back Landa big attack out the back is bigger than his head. Our stomach is bigger than its stomach and so hopefully was impressive. I mean this is a perfect if he is going to excel in tougher stages is the perfect one for him. This this is the question right in this transition into an overall contender and I did not expect to see what we saw. The doubts were on elephants were Hollywood perform a longer climb and more drawn out but these steep punchy steepness to say that this DNA seems to be his thing yeah and he didn't seven kilometers so that's that's not that's just not long when you compare that to mobile to twenty kilometers and outdoors much also as long but <hes> he didn't look good either we were commenting and I think if anybody wash when he was on the wheel as Moee star in any os or pulling him he had called the mask like he was in his teeth and I'm like swing and Verba Yeah it what we saw the preview we saw you know didn't add up to the finish and so while you're comparing it to things like von to and things like that <hes> I think it's important to note how tall these climbs are or are not but because certain writers perform better have advantages at at altitude that others don't right when we're that wasn't as big of a factor as many might think with the the mountaintop fell. Just the in people's minds perception a being in the mountains right. This is the First Mountain Day here were sitting in Aspen Colorado at eight thousand feet twenty four hundred meters you know if you rode an hour and a half up the pass you'd be twelve thousand just over twelve thousand feet like that to to me and I think in most people's minds like that's the mountains. Today's finish was at thirty four hundred feet and that's like Tucson Arizona yeah that is that's we never raised in these types of attitude altitude so we have in Colorado USA yeah <hes> cycling challenge but this realm analogy what they raised in today in when you throw in pitches of twenty plus percent in not to say that it's ever easy but it is much much harder at eight thousand feet yeah when it's if you're not as opposed to three thousand four hundred feet if you're not following we do on instagram. Just you guys going up two flights of stairs at eight thousand feet even that you're both fit gasping for air. We're not showing that on on this okay. We are tiffany or fired. I think you had to double over our president so what he used to go back to those days. We just had a T._v.. Show so alphabet at that out Georgia's a trump supporter had a great nominee. Get all the hate mail before we let the conversation about Allah Felipe Go George Sandys podium candidate starting to feel that I don't. I don't think that but I I will give it to him. He I'M GONNA make in my I persona the Dagan. Even though he lost the Jersey I just that was so unexpected I thought he would I thought the opposite would be happening instead of him going out the front of a group of favorites. He'd be going out the back Donna Q. as a sale. I'LL SAY EH so. We're picking up patrols right now the day why just I don't know I did you don't have to now you can do it whenever go on my Pachon is going to be <hes> to coney in the right way. All Day sprinted bull gas for every mount point. I mean come on. He had like four different in races going on today. WHO's not only sprinting against Wellens and again they were tag team in all the climbs that takes a ton of energy then makes it to the final two guys on the last climb and his clearly keeping the stage when in mind because is he wasn't Bolan Mike we were all wondering why not pulling through harder because he had the Yellow Jersey in his hands so clearly just an amazing ride from him and I have another? Can I make a second patrol of the day today. You haven't announced one year Julian leap glad glad you're paying attention but I wanna have just like a an exception and pick a second of the day. My second patrol patrol on B. is Bob real number one. I think he's doing fucking fabulous job filling in propulsion when <hes> and yes I got the names right <hes> but also he picked Dylan tunes from the break he said and they showed the clip from Dolphin. Were Dylan Tunes One <hes> this almost the same finish not as high up during the dominate enroll said I think he I think he stays away win. Win like that's a man knows his stuff. That's a ballsy pick wine and cycling well. What are you guys know about tunes? What does this mean for him? Not being the team leader just a great day everyone yes leave it at that the O. Until one Torboli and two years ago he's twenty eight years old. <hes> Belgian Belgian is an overnight superstar now after what he did today those incredible ride <hes> clearly focusing on the he said on his interview that he wanted to make a breakaway thought of the chance to succeed seed and saying the break where the whole time thing about the finished didn't care about anything else just to finish line and went from the from what five six hundred years ago on the front kind of kicked it up on that super steep art and then kept the the effort all the way to the line so so super impressive Dave third patrol. I'm seeing where does it end. I don't know but I can. I have a third of the day apparently it's your show okay and I'm not just pimping the sponsors but I would like to have a third joint of the day. In my my third patrolling of the day is Aso we all know how hot and sexy gravel racing is and everybody talks about dirty cans and all these events that gives gravel gravel gravel and people want to put those events on the industry wants to embrace it they wanna make gravel bikes aches and gravel components and for Aso to lean into gravel. I think is a smart move and for that. I'm GonNa make them might third of the day I loved it. I think they should I think they should you know if in five years you know the trend is is is unicycles think we ought to have a little finish where you gotta ride unison all that to say like it's it is smart to embrace what the world is saying. We like we love this. We wanted to know this so hats off to them and I mean are are there enough gravel roads that they could do much longer or an entire climb. That's gravel. Oh you can emit. Oh absences plenty of that to pick yeah absolutely but I'm not going to let that go. He picks to coney is a turn of the day when you're watching it lands. You are getting frustrated with him. Well we almost let the yellow we watched him. I don't know if you remember but we the days that I would watch the Jiro with with you and Johann he was extremely animated inactive in the tour of Italy but it's always this just he's always kinda whining. He's all hands I know a lot of their their emotion and all this stuff and they get really wound up. It's like dude and then one points pulling off and then just coasting on my in clearly his director came into his ears like by the way you have a chance to take the Jersey so start pedaling the fucking bike which if that's your upside pull while they had a little conversation there too when there was just two or three of them left on the final climb and now as we all know in those moves you always try to come to some sort of arrangement where they let's work together until a Kedah go or you're going to get the yellow. I'll get the win. Something was going on there. Were I think they finally came to an agreement where they would work together and try to keep <hes> keep the time up there. We gotTa Talk About Garin Thomas and Egon Bernal that was at nine second swing from Thomas B in five seconds behind from the gas the other day sending a little message today that I my opinion Thomas made a huge statement today able to bride away from the group that time does move perfectly road away from all of his competitors was on a super steep punchy finish which you know I would have we had the arguably he's much better time trial less than no along gradual sort of climbing specialists of what he did today. He made a massive statement. I agree I completely agree. I mean he being in the saddle to Alabama's just in <unk> hard to do. I was gearing right but well not gravity of your out of the house bringing sliding all over. I wonder what the I'm trying to look for. There's any comments from the riders I I'd be curious to hear and I don't see any appetite curious to hear what they thought of it right. We can all sit here and talk about how much we loved it and Complement Aso for Donen some gravelly hated it. They may all be like this bullshit. We're never we're not doing this again. It'll be interesting to see the reaction but since we since we were so efficient today and we got to the set like this and did our notes like that and we're here we don't we're so fast today. What you guys think when you saw Atlanta look aggressive and then get swallowed up what's going on movie star I was I was not surprised by his attack are his acceleration but I was surprised that it that it didn't wore it actually bailed right not only did he get caught but then got essentially spit out the back and so he has almost like he didn't know the the finish that quite well because he put all the effort in in one category just completely cracked guy like that in that position he should've time the effort but better than that you have to finish you better save? All the matches not too tough we saw T._J.. Van Garden pop yeah. I was surprised by that. I was surprised to especially on the second last climb. I'm hoping he's not dealing with any kind of illness or injury but <hes> you know let's get up during when the stage for the team we also saw Bardai getting dropped from contention anybody else they believe really hurt. Take my partner in crime pick for the overall. Yes let's go is. They say they don't make you lose an wasn't happy to see that it looked pretty good the whole climb up but in Alaska yet a nation I tell you what this is one of those. We always talk about how deceiving some of these camera angles are today. You've never seen they could look like they're right there. When it's that steep it takes fifteen seconds to go fifteen yards? I mean it's it's whatever it does. I don't have any loss today. He's to thirty five down clear example that was that you were hundred percent convinced that Allah Felipe was keeping the Jersey with one hundred fifty years ago and I <hes> kindly corrected you that that's a long way to so at that that gradings right so Nibley lost fifty five zero seconds to guarantee Thomas in probably under a kilometer. That's that's a long way. Can I have a fourth patrolling the day we gotTa Talk About Christians. I'm there's some bitches trying now. It's getting bigger Durand Durand flock of seagulls all the throwback I love it. I think I think Christian. I know you listen sometimes you do you looking good in Christian we he needs to show that thing looks like in the mornings. I've seen it plenty of times when we were rooming Cape Epic Perfect on T._v.. But in the morning that's a big blue font I think he needs to show us. One of these mornings era Christian. Please send Selfie upon waking up yes I would I would kill to have that hair so it Chris Horner yeah yeah any other team observations today ineos Astana and strengthen a teen. Let's talk about. Let's talk about Donna ORCAS personnel so I I am actually quite impressed with Astana right now. Saying is making recovery back be able to be there today. Minimizes time loss was able to save his whole team today which arguably is one of the strongest teams in the Tour de France <hes> that's a big deal that they were able to save energy sit- in not not taking control the raise will sank finish near the front now going with. They're going to be a little bit worried about him. In the next next mountain days folks I would think yes I know his name is actually pronounced full song yes but when there's a Jian and you've been calling them Google song forever. I'm just not stop. I don't care yeah that sounds might the team. I don't like talking about this team because Mark Mattioli I think is just is just strange but process is should you gotta give it to this day. I mean <unk> obviously Dbongino but kit point. I don't even know who this guy is like. They're in the bike race off in the team time trial. We saw it again today. I I duNno Chapo this. I should say they will be seeing a lot more of them in the mountain. A one thing that that I witnessed today that I think you guys should explain it was I don't have sixty seventy k. out. You see you see different teammates. One reach back or reach up. Give someone a little little poll forward <hes> sometimes you see guys pushing each other into position. Call the hands but literally a hand sling. What is that? What are the rules on that or are there any lands yeah since you've probably never did one in your life I've ever that's like the Super Hook a hand? Don't do that a handling is for. It's basically it's etiquette and cycling. If you open a gap by mistake or not paying attention or you're just suffering that bad where you can't hold the wheel in front of you and you open been a gap to the guide met behind you. It doesn't matter if he's routine mate you worse enemy if you are you know if you have some kind of morals you should put your hand down and give them a little bit of love to get back there because you opened the gap and <hes> you know that's not that's not a cool thing to do when everybody's full the gas and you just can't hold the wheel you should put your hand on slinging back up there. You're slinging them forward but you're just putting them back in the gap so that that person all the guys behind are getting handling so if they're still on the wheel so they should they lose the weight gain is right. I'm just saying it happens in the Peleton all day long. You're always at the front or you were not given or taken handsome either you or I should talk about what's right and wrong. Yeah okay giving you handling once or twice ah but I think people would be surprised that do you know your Saturday group rides. I think they'd be surprised in pro racing especially at this level how much people are putting their hands on each each other to put him in position leading. No you're there sliding them into a gab or it happens a lot. Just bumping your bars on somebody's hips. Let him know you're there all day long two hundred lesson Turner guys in this belt on but small roads physician into everything. You're going to be bumping all day long all right. Let another quick shout out before we get to the road I._D.. Trivia contests to <hes> to all the responses to the question on my instagram posts yesterday about how many tater tots what's Georgie before the training our screen went to sleep the Nazis back she woke up and I don't know where we're at now tiffany where we know how many people hundred seven hundred a lot because George wining about eating tater tots and burgers before the hard mountain bike ride and so I guess you didn't have any TATER tots yesterday. No yesterday I did not have ever say zero. I would like to point arena talk about okay. Wait until ah who won that but can I point out some things that happened on yesterday's training right which I thought were interesting sure we go out we go on anything. Interesting happened on a road ride in a supermarket. We had some friends in town. My son came out with us. It's going to be about a fifty mile a bike ride <hes> these guys stopped for water dot halfway through bride the bottom of the big Lima date mind you. I'm not a local as ASP nights. I'm from Greenville South Carolina love living there. I don't know where I am at the time running here cycle length. I'm just GONNA go ahead with my son my eleven year old son to get a little gap on this climbs. You guys a catches Lo and behold manse never comes back to us. I ns takes a left. Turn up some other crime probably doing intervals and leaves me stranded in the Wilderness on a gravel road not knowing where the Hell I was with my eleven year olds no phone service and this man leaves me for doing intervals and making his team time on the golf course we'll kind of friend co hosts get to the chorus is a chorus you left me on a dirt road with my son in the middle of nowhere and I had no no in fact that isn't what happened that he no we yeah that's sweet. You want to get a little up the road with your son but Dean are reprint flattered. Now we could not get there. was something wrong with his rim tape or something. We couldn't get who went to four tubes. I texted you instead. We've we can get you got it later when you're on the golf course whatever and so I it by the time we went through four tubes and I'm looking at my watch going. I'M NOT GONNA make my time so I had I had to head back and I didn't do intervals but I I got a little alone time which I like. I'm with people right now. I don't. I don't always like to be around people and so I got some alone time. I had like an hour all low. I'm glad you were able to clarify what happens to those little those little hurt by that and you guys made it down the mountain on here. Barely we made it a mean. We're we struggled but we made it all right. It's time for the Road I._D.. Trivia contest on test. We now know that these are multiple choice so we are. We're going to expand in start giving you. 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I I remember back in the day I mean I hated neutrals. That's just just as that just for the parade out of ten is purely for the fans drunk miles like nothing you know I mean I guess on days that that starts straight up hill you might like it as a bit of a warm up but not neutrals a terrible word to I hate that word you know like in life you have reverse you have neutral in you forward baby. There's only one good word of those three not mentioned you don't count the neutral obviously the nature of the pain but we didn't talk about it all about today's evacuation you on top of this economic the fastest way down as these guys got a ride down the mountain don't dodge in hundreds of thousands of spectators that are also trying to get down the mountain. It's actually Z.. Quite stressful so even though the guys get to the finish their days and over they still gotta get down the mountain jump in the bus and get back home to their hotel rooms. Oh you guys should have heard about the pink whistle. Perhaps somebody's borrowed Alberto. condors pink whistled down on the mountain. Do you remember that I do not remember that what. Why was it on the thing then was? I supposed to be listening but Tom this guy and we somebody sent us one. This guy essentially <unk> thank you he would he had another rider told us a story that when he was going down of course the spectators are walking down so they can't see you as you're coming up behind him. He had a pink whistle in his mouth. I know somebody else that had a helicopter was getting down to not talk about uh-huh much better than pink list. You know it's funny as we were setting up and just before you guys got here for the last twenty k. or so Dave who has a swan. Your background was watched he you you know when you could see the finish where it's all fenced in and he could see swan years walking up with their kits and bags and all that stuff and just it's those little things that you don't think about like all of your support. They have to hike up the the mountain. If if you're going to get any support at all you know you probably when you get to the top you would prefer to have everything there and spin it out and cool down and getting the bus and everybody's the whole staff kind of haven't yet they had to get up the mountain today. The logistics just text the staff in the whole team is very in depth than those guys that are the riders and the staff at the super tough day today. You Guys GonNa make any predictions for tomorrow <music>. I'm trying to look. I'm trying to find the finish from today because it really is. It's it's truly a dead end road ahead hold up earlier but it went away just logistically cryptos. That's like Shit. It doesn't matter <hes> tomorrow. <hes> I think a lot of guys are starting to guy. I read this article by about Mac Michael Matthews today just just devastated the other day about the the work is team did and how he feels like he let them down and very frustrated you guys like that. It just gets in their head. Not only are they disappointed about that day but then Oh my God I mean more chances. Do I get and starts to play games with you. I don't know I'm George Ugo. I I'm going to go with gruner Bagan yeah. The guy that got dropped ten teams seven days in is super strong team. Training Block is coming together train vice coming together. They can have a good. They're going to have a great leader. There's GonNa be some collaborations amongst the sprinter teams tomorrow because the last one hundred hundred kilometers sixty miles or flat so the chances of the breakaway making it tomorrow a very slim and and I just thought I'd see GRUNDTVIG and be recovered and be able to sprint without any impediments and thinking win tomorrow I'm going with. I'M GONNA go with Bibbiani give you my track is GonNa do all the work I mean that team is so bad and been so bad this year to have the Yellow Jersey that they they have to kill themselves to keep it now so they're just going to keep this thing together and Viviana to me is is by far the quickest guy in the race so I'm picking Yanni and my prediction that they'll work all day long. Welcome true they'll get some help. We got a lot of messages here in questions a lot of comments about quacking you guys got everybody talking about quacking we had George we had I woke up this morning with a text message from Lt may great friend Greg Ben Adamant who gave us. I think he's GonNa pull up the proper pronunciation of this Vermont Synthesis. Thank you greg or can I love Watkin that truly that work and yeah we don't we're not saying it like that and we were not saying that GUAC and now we now we there's an number the Italian ships always say Lima Lee my daughter which would be similar to quicken remember that Land Atlanta showing me the that that finish that they did today and it's just like it's like a road they would go to a little farmhouse at the top this is they must do some skiing there. I can't imagine they do a lot but they have some ski. Lifts wonder if anybody took the ski lift down but it is it just kinda ends is like in our friend Alon who I saw this morning when he brought some good croissants by he said that's where he grew up skiing that area just do ski but he's so old. They didn't have global warming back there so they had so more on the walking somebody wrote in dear the move podcast team just a small explanation of quacking you discussed in yesterday's podcast. It's basically an Onomatopoeia. Do you remember that from school but I don't remember much from school but it's what is an Onomatopoeia. It's it's words that matched their description. Oh Oh that was some other. The person's name who sent it in <hes> in Flanders Kwok is used to describe the sound of a collision like he would see boom POW or splash and Batman comics. Those are undermine appears boom POW remember greetings from Belgium and keep up the great work. That's from Pascal does go don't go yup and more about that. The Dutch verb Guac in the person. Doing it is a quaker Yup and one instance is a kwok is not very refined or in other words a rough throwing movement is what a Kwok is and July twenty eight. This'll be the quack in I'll be the question and then rory writes in Kwok is also a fantastic Belgian beer great for making part the make poverty yeah <unk> on Itunes as are. We were just checking rankings. They have all these shows where people talk about all this really smart stuff you know in here. We're talking about this. We're bringing you the insides yeah. This is inside baseball. Let's see throw a couple of questions that you guys all right did you. I sent this to you texted you earlier a quote for that kid or do you WanNa tackle that tomorrow. Do you might need some time to think about that. That is a very serious obligation that okay. Maybe we'll hold onto that will hold onto that because I know you time pressure you needed time to to think about it but see longtime listener have caught a caught every episode going back several years two stages. I always love hearing Georgia and Johann Cameos glad they're now fixtures which is true. I remember in past years episode last discussing a novel idea of using multiple washing machines to keep teammates gear separate separate and avoid cross-contamination talked about that with sky right why not just bring enough new kits for each stage are they using the same short socks everything every day on every day but you'd be surprised at how much they get used used and how do not like wear shorts on on any given day like t shirts. We all know what it's like when you get that one t- that you just worn at just more than all your others and it gets to that place where it's perfectly quickly soft it fits you right and you dislike dude. That's my tea and so it's the same with kids like first of all I would never wear a kit any kit straight out of the bag that kit has has to be really multiple times before it can be worn okay that makes it that explains why they wouldn't wear a new kit everyday and that question came from Adam in Pennsylvania this one I just liked who it came from and I think he'll dig it. Lands and says greetings from Nashville were following the tour while on our tour and listening to your podcasts before and after our shows musician hopefully I'm not jinxing the riders by asking this question but to me the rates so far seen safer than in previous two years there have been crashes but thankfully no writers have withdrawn yet in each of the last two years five riders have been forced to withdraw by stage five great great observation and the right. Does it seem safer to you. Is it due to you having teams of eight riders instead of nine. What other inside scoop can you provide to explain this? Thanks for a great podcast. Being Crash Boom Matthew Burgess the percussion nater the Percussion Nater Dot Com wow I clearly drama of this band tour yeah. I think you're right and agree on. I don't want to jinx <hes> we haven't had any rain that maybe a little bit today but nano has not been any wet roads what finishes <hes> perhaps point going down to eight riders. Although I'm not a fan of it and I think disc brakes have something new that I think this breaks just stop even dry certainly wet conditions far and away better. I don't WanNa get into the debate about should be having them should be not. Are they dangerous. Do they cut people as when they crashed you can imagine that they do but the fact is they stop a lot better. The definitely saw better every today. I think those <hes> less districts out there due to weight savings is usually typically at about a pound with this breaks guys like any Osa Mike. I didn't see what what they were adding by. My guess they were not writing this breaks to save as much wait as possible but also the weather there was no cobblestones and the early part of the store he made a great observation that there was there seems to be a lot less crashes this first week of the tour yeah good point and if you know the the debate is that they can cut people. I wouldn't even have that debate until you fix the legs on the barriers they have I mean did you look at the finish barriers. Maybe not today but they at least at the tour not we've seen other now. There was a nasty crash. Maybe for visit dunkirk where the guy hard but what I've seen this year I mean they've got it slopes J._V. Barrier. They call it. It's sloping in the science comes all the way down but you don't see the legs of the barrier anymore at least in this year's tour yeah I think the way they're hanging the sign inches covering that leg that sticks out so that's improvement. Maybe that's helping to with the injuries in the animates. Check out the shop checkout. I haven't seen it till today. I the brand new we got the new we do. <hes> forward camel hat. Thanks to mark Higgins. This was his idea but so as George alluded to I did cut the ride short yesterday to go make my teatime played with with <music> our local sheriff keeping town safe and Oliver Hudson Mall Buddy A- actor and <hes> m are another buddy Bruce Knack for but on like sixteen my son my little dinner old showed up to he likes to play the last three holes and smacking around will but he gets out of his mom's car comes walking over and he's wearing this hat you had you seen it. I'm like dude. Where'd you get that hat? He's like a higgs brought him over. He's just immediately commandeered one shows up to the golf course house like Dan good and it's a big thing for apparent when your kid thinks something's cool that you that you made which doesn't happen very often. I don't know if you're quite there yet. You have a fourteen year old yeah. 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2021 Tour de France Stage 10
"All right everybody welcome back to the move. Podcast brought to each and every time by aura. Well this is the company behind the smart ring by the week totally noninvasive all the key metrics all the key data that that all of us really liked to go to sleep quality sleep sleep cycles core temp recovery activity So much technology packed in such a small piece. Just right here on your finger and by the way everything starts with sleep. Sports performance performance. Mental clarity all starts with sleep head on over to or ring. There's flow coat or a ring. Oh you are a ring dot com or talking about stage ten the day after the rest day. We'll kind of break down. What we all did for arrestee. But let's cue align. Tell us where we're gonna teach ten. I'll belleville to valance. Al reveal to vallance by the way. Albertville was an olympic city and winter olympic town longtime ago. Many times visited city of the twitter france. Always they always go there. Yeah most part. Well there's a ton ton of sports history there. What are we going to say. I mean this this fairy tale story. Big three three is is happening. New hashtag is trending on the socials. Oh it is pound thirty three. Tony dorsett the great. Tony dorsett growing up and get dallas cowboys fan right. It'll thirty three. it's just and it looks like it's getting easier for them. Yeah i agree. I i mean i i kind of feel like he almost wasn't even at one hundred percent Sprint today he kind of he's looking to the left. Look into the right knowing cava way. I i know him when he's one hundred. Ten percent full gas in that sprint is headed straight down. The the pain faces fully on he. He almost didn't even have the paint base on today right. His the you know the package not done to sound weird but he is if you look at the head on shot of the sprint. Finish the kim. Compared to wild bernard i mean. He's about half the drag. It's amazing his head down. Yeah well he's a short guy for starters but he sprints just so compact arrow. It's good to see well back in there. As i i mean first time he actually really try for the sprint and i mean he was coming with power low mean look like kavun easy but welcomed. Second is a big boost for his competence. I think we're gonna see a lot more of him. Up in the sprints coming up hey cav almost celebrated too early. I mean it's you can't mess around with that. Know i mean. He knows like. I said he was looking. And he's got that. Feel i mean sprinters can see behind behind them without actually looking they can feel it. That's the whole thing that's been can do. And i'm sure he was pretty confident that he was able to raise his hands. I wonder if he kept his chain on. Then get another pick from johann. This is yeah. I i i have a feeling this is just gonna keep happening. But it's It's not relevant right and that lead out. I think both of you at first were like oh man starting this early maybe thought it might have been too early look might lose control of it and then look we're talking about we got Know leap world champion. The guy pulls the for basically kilometer at the front castro screen Twitter flanders champion. He both for another typically toledo train aren't able to pull those speeds for such long distance. We're talking about five hundred meters or less. These guys are able to pull for about a k. Now we will. We'll keep breaking it down. This is where we're we're we're going to witness something. He's got four more opportunities so we'd be foolish to tibet against him at this point but Today show also brought to you by athletic brewing. It's real simple this is. This is a craft beer for people that just want to cut back on alcohol. 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Because you know what j. b. says cheapest neat and freeze for me. I mean what are we going to you know. Let's first because this this is getting a cab is back to his old brilliant self so this is getting predictable but how was the rest of it. What did you do. Did you go ride your by slept a little later. Got wise which was awesome in god on the mountain bike for about three and a half hour. Oh damn which i mean. That's eight starting at eight thousand also. Yeah it was good. It was good. Yeah there was a quiet quiet day snapped all day. Georgia get out of bed at all now but i mean you did know you did. Keep us up late on sunday. So i tried to sleep in. Didn't really work out for me but we're nice little easy. Ride stopped and guy copy. Got a tennis lesson for my buddy john down the road here relaxing day. He's just. John was that john mcenroe. Who was that tall guy together that maybe giant is nerve. John john who not matt was not mcenroe a magara or is ner. Okay what did you do. i chilled. we did have a late night on the fourth. We do george at the last minute. Go over to this damn electric music concert. This young kid geigo electric music fucking confetti flying everywhere and i just you know the old man he just can't roll like that and i walked home from from the belly up which was just magical and slept in slept ben and chilled and When the family one of the big things to do here which i think is kind of stand up. Paddle board is kinda come a long ways but a lot of people float or stand up paddle board the section of the royal for stillwater. So we went all the kids and dog we went and floated stillwater. It was. i'd never done it. Oh i saw tons of. You're you're seeing everywhere. These inflatables ups really big on cars and trucks everywhere. There's guides that that take the do more. We didn't have a guy but you don't have to paddle because the rivers moving just kind of sat on it so you can say where you're standing or sitting. I did all of the above. But i i was made. I wanted to see a moose. Apparently a bunch of moves up there the aspen version of tubing which is real popular in texas. I think there are few tubes out there. the water's cold yet. Still running off independence. Pass so it's It's called but that's what we did and we just laid low and missed you guys. But that's good me. Back in the saddle got up early this morning. George again was beat him down to the. Tv was surprised too busy texting john. Typical you didn't respond to my tax texted. You at six thirty as you're awake you're up earlier this year. I've noticed that in general. Yeah i'm i'm not. I'm not in good shape. But i think i'm healthier. I mean what are what are we going to talk about. I mean you had you know there are few highlights of the of the stage had kkob rally win a nice or a good intermediate sprint. Cab just didn't contest it. He knows what at this point right at that. This record is a lot more important than trying to go for. Intermediate sprints. Yeah today today was really sort of an ideal day for after the recipe. For for the riders. This because when you get a real hard stage after the rest day it could be miserable. A lot of people. They don't react well to rest as and today was a relatively easy. Start the breakaway wine. Only two guys which is an ideal situation for quickstep. They're not to really worry about controlling day. Perfect situation for you why they can just quit step in sprinter teams role And not much drama along the way the crash with pretty much the whole team which They're having a tough tour having a tough tour. Unfortunately they're all okay luke. I just spoke with luke briefly. He's fine to said it was a wrong way round around roundabout sort of thing so not not fun time but they're all okay but when the teams stay together as they should then oftentimes that happens. I you don't wanna have guys all by themselves. All over the pelt on you wanted somewhat together while if there's a crash right in front of you then guess what happens. Yeah they all hit the deck. But i wasn't exactly easy. Looked a little intense at the end. They had some crosswinds and they had like the. You know that's one thing that crossed another to have cross tail which they did and it was. It was strung out you saw polka chart fighting for some wheels and now and what happened. I mean just they all know it's coming. I mean i was thinking some of the guys in the race in his garage sale at nine. Eight nine nine k to go so by you get to twenty five thirty eight ago. Everybody knows it's coming. Everybody starts balanced position to speed starts increase in faster and faster and of course it was other things going on with the bike. Exchange trying to put cab on the limit on that climb before the fitness but he looked super easy. he was fined In fact he looked stronger than matthews on that. Climb i it's it's interesting watching stages like today with you guys because i think george is watching the sprinters in lance is sitting there watching. These guys struggled to stay state safe. And it's i could tell it's taking you to a place she don't like in your head like remem- reflecting on this. It is a day after day. Which is awkward for everybody. And it's you know there's nothing to win and you're just trying to not get gap off and and certainly you know again with crosswinds. People are fighting for Wheels in front of them guys. Overlap i mean there's just a lot can go wrong locking and you can i. I remember quite vividly when we were first going For the g c. In tour we had the one cable. You got to the one k. You can sort of relax. But let's be honest from ten to one k. Is complete chaos super stressful super dangerous. Now fortunately they had the three k. Rule and you're able to you still. You can relax as g dc team. You can relax a little bit. You can kind of stay out of the first ten fifteen guys out of this sprint race so to speak. But you can't go too far back either because you can't lose. Time is the moment that thing splits. They're gonna give you the second. So there's there's a moment where you hit the three cake mark that you can relax slightly but not too much. Do you totally unrelated but deep before we go live do you. Because he's always up stairs doing something and his lair. god penthouse. There's the penthouse. You're looking at his hair. I mean you're you're are you like getting it right. You're that is quashed i see. There's a there's a little glisten to it by the way the. I don't really give a shit the answer you do just john there on one. The big show here. Elevate elevate game you. Don't go up there and do your hair. jv now just just. I don't even comb my hair. Yes our shows just slapped the hat on. Let's go. I mean it's it's impressive at at your age george by the way there's no reason for you look good. I mean you're happily married. Get a wonderful family reason to look good shit. There is no reason to look thing about that. Statement real quick. I know we're going to dig into tomorrow. One other thing. I wanted added at two today. You know we talk talk about it. More with g c. But a lot of a lot of stars need to align for in their aligning for cavendish including keb rally. Getting a flat. Not that anybody could have. Maybe outsprinted kathy but stars keep aligning for competitors missing cut or or or dropping out. It's right and and that hectic finish it worked out fine for the for the whole group but it looking at it on paper beforehand. You're like wait around about three hundred meters before the finish line like do we have to do that. How about we put the finish line before around like just looking at this. But he has these george talked about. I mean he's got so much horsepower in front of him. They just nobody's getting. Nobody's going to get up there and have another get another train going like he is on the wheel. He goes through the that corner through the roundabout with three hundred ago. And it's i mean that aligns like that's just everybody else back there fighting for wheels fighting wasting so much energy. He's just sitting there going all right. Y'all let me know when i should go now. Let's be clear from work. Cab came from a year ago where he barely. you know. Thought he'd be racing again. I mean we. We all saw that and really emotional scene last year again. Well he was crying at the finish. I mean the fact that we even talking about him perhaps equalled or beaten the record eddie. Murphy's record is the pressure is completely off cap. He's got he's got three stage wins now. After the first stage the pressure was completely off. Now he's having fun he even said he's not really even going for the green jersey if it comes to him great but he's just having a great time and he's trying to pull up finish off the job for his team right right now. Wait a minute he. He's hanging the think i heard you say the pressures he's has the operatives for more stages only needs his two more to to to break the record and you. You think there's no pressure. I mean the press. It's a it's a good thing it's more like mojo. Yeah it's like winning again winning again. He's winning easy. He's got the confidence of the world's best sprinter team behind him. I mean for him. It's all about having fun insurer. Of course he wants to beat the record but he's he's happy right now. I can guarantee hey today show also brought to you by helix this is This is the best mattress i've ever slept on. George i know you have one They they've got this Interesting platform outside of just making amazing mattresses. 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Gosh it's been months and months and months since we did the previous show when they first unveiled the route I'm less. I'm less of a hater Today as i look at this epoch day two times up the von to little known fact but a lot of climbs. There's one way up. in one. Way down the vaughn to actually has three different directions. You can go up so they're going to go up. Essentially what is the one of the backsides that puts them out at shelly. Renard which is is probably two thirds up The vaughn to sit there. And then you ride up to the to the classic top which everybody will recognize just baron. Jazz rock everywhere. It looks like you're on the moon. Descend down that backside. Come back around. And then they do the classic From the front side which is just. You cannot describe how hard the bone to his people. Ask me all the time. What's the hardest climb in france without hesitation. Move onto the hardest. It is just something about it. I mean it's there are other climbs that are as long and as steep but this one has the hype. It it the hype the hype like just the spur spectate. It has the allure and it doesn't have switched bax so when you when you you'll see tomorrow when we watch them when they're going up the final ascent that front side i think there's one switchback maybe two now. There are no backs and so it's just you know. Switchback equals relief. That's why they built switch-backs. Did you know that in just to get that roads. The only way to get the road up there switch baxter's typically a lot calmer than the actual clients there no switchback. It's just right in your face and not to mention we all know how expose at areas when we've gone there in the past has been lots of crosswind battles even before you get to climb which this year i mean. We got a category one. Climb then onto a big downhill valley. Which could be super expose and then straight back up onto. It's going to be crazy hard day on the top it's just just relentless it's exposed there to in their calling for bad weather got high high percent chance of thunderstorms is. This could be brutal. And of course we have the g see battle. Which will you should see some attacks but there's going to be as many cameras on cavin dish to see that he. He makes the cut that he gets over to ice. Because we no one wants that story to end i would. I would envision a big group getting together tomorrow and you know trying to try to help each other. Get to the finish line but one thing we probably need to mention. We'd never actually race down the ventoux. We only finished up right and so it's a super fast very smooth pavement road. I mean we've written down at after the stages you gotta sometimes right back to the hotel after one hundred hundred miles down you on the halley back down cold freezing coming down his mouth. But i mean like you said they're stunned storms and there's rain this crazy fast. Sent two times down onto who knows what can happen with with. Yeah i mean in long stages almost At least for modern it. This call modern cycling. It's two hundred. Kilometers is going to be twelve thousand verdict climbing. Yeah super long. Yeah and pogue. Hr's obviously just sit around and wait for somebody to piss him off and then he's going to watch this. Yeah it'll be interesting to see what the tactics how they play out because right now you know the tactics of other teams like ineos or jumbo or whoever wants to make it. Hard on poacher. That's not really working out for them. I mean they have to start attacking individual attack in trying to catch up to their teammates but riding tempo for poets are i do not is the best play right now. Is there any tactic for an no cavas said. I don't care about the green jersey but if if a guy like go belly does want to have the is there. Any tactic to try to force him to miss the time cut. I'm just owner. Not their minutes off the mean. But something i might have thought of and the day something. I'm sure those guys are watching. Garelli lost the. You know he's been going so hard for these early. Bona point sprints in the mountains one of the strongest definitely. Strong is climber are sprinter that can climb In today obviously had a bad mechanical there with about twenty five. Kitty go went full. Gas come back and faded in. The end ended up seventeenth place which lost a lot of points there but he was kind of sort of becoming one of the favorites with the green jersey. We'll see what happens after tomorrow. Well yeah no. It's it's a it. what are they gonna. it's the cash. There's what's the nickname porter. The they've named for the monto. I should know this. But i know i was just trying to think about that earlier. It is Yawn if you listen. John send us a text you on you remember all these things but it's wild being out there like you're just improvises absolutely gorgeous and this thing just sits out there you see it from all around you like damn we gotta go up there. What is the nickname j. b. I was going to type it in but trying to be quiet here. Good yeah who. Who do you end up. Just no way of breakaway can make it to the finish this. It's too hard. The vaunted is simply too hard the bald mountain. I don't remember the durham the beast of province or the giant of province the giant province. Yeah yup the giant of province johan chimed in. Yep he's so good thank you hun. People miss your. He's faster than google. What did you do for his rest day. Go out and film some snakes making love. He does have a lot of wildlife on his bike. Rides in terms of your question of whether a breakaway makes it or not. I mean it's it's in you as best interest of a breakaway makes it makes it a bit easier for them. But i feel like the other teams now are perhaps aren't lose confidence in the overall win. So they have to start fighting for the little victories like the stage wins not little. The huge victories stage wins and trying to make some moves on the on the podiums. It really just depends on who was in the breakaway And how that might may or may not affect the podium whether or not a breakway makes it well and we're still Know i brought this up to now. We're ten stages in and only five teams of one so they got now. It's yet eighteen teams going right including any us which somebody pointed out his team that dominates most grand tours dominant on all levels they dominate the overall the the stages and the prize money. You have a team. The biggest team in the world. They're like they've made what what was it. It's we up until the rest day. They've made three thousand nine hundred thirty euros in prize. Money split nine ways. I mean well no. The staff usually split. Yeah so explain after the after each rest day. They tally up the prize. Money one bites team. So that's why we were. That's where we got this information. That's four hundred and thirty three euros per split and to tell the staff. Listen twenty you gotta split up this four hundred thirty three euros ten days work and not even enough to buy a bicycle. The good news is maybe not even a wheel set the biggest budget and felt on. So they're getting paid quite quite nicely. They're probably not as worried about prizemoney. Small teams true. Yeah hey let's talk about the week. We gotta talk about the we do segment over here in bavard. We've had some updates there and we've had some stuff Brought to our attention that I'm going to channel my inner bill. Maher and i'm gonna make a new rule new rule and this is not just. This isn't a bluff. This is a new rule. But but we've had some we've had some Course holiday weekend and a perfect time to go out there and get your suffer on Do we have some updates to the leaderboard again. This is the weedy segment over there and bavard. North carolina brought to you by outside plus and this is leaderboard brought to by the feed bianca. Still there on the fourth of july. she's She must have bested her time. Well she got a big lead about the men's leaderboard tyler. Horses still up there ben. Right and second tyler and sixteen seconds. Sixteen seconds ahead of and now for the bill maher claws slash new rule. This i mean this. This is a new rule. Woo we are hearing. That people are keeping their rides. Because we've talked about this like would you wait. Do you see what everybody else is done. Well one of the features of straub and of course. This whole thing is powered by straub. they are stop watch. They tell us what the start line is the finish. Line the time all the stuff One of the features ostrava is you can keep your rights private. So we're getting word that people are perhaps doing exceptional performances and making it private and then they're going to wait till a day or two before the tours over and then bam make it public and say oh. Yeah did this two weeks ago. How you like me now. New rule now mass. If you've done that we have a. What do you call that. Like an amnesty period. Here we go to the pool and you take the towels. You're supposed to bring them back. They have amnesty bucket. You gotta bring the towels back. Amnesty period. I'll give it twenty four hours. Make your rights public. We wanna see it you you cannot make private you gotta make them public so you got twenty four hours to open up that feature and show the world what you've done and by the way if you have the best time good for you if you get beat. Didn't go back as ten. Grand is yours to win or lose. All the rides have to be made public immediately. Are you okay with that tiff. Yes thumbs up from tiff okay. Good new rule. We'll have to. We'll send out the bill maher. I like omar just never watched it. But i didn't know he had a thing like new rule. I'm gonna start doing that. New rule this is. I mean it is a new rule these right you gotta make them public right away but you have twenty four hours even if you did it a week ago. Get your ass over your computer and make it public. It's only it's only fair. And i have a lot of credibility when it comes to talking about russian. Aso changes rules all the time and the uci We just new rule all right Some questions and comments yeah. This one's really fine. I think you guys are gonna like. I did not clip. This guy's name wait a minute. What happened here a. Yeah what. Have i checked. I checked the rankings. This morning we've been hanging down around. Maybe this hicks. Did you photoshop this just to make me in a good mood. I've been checking this morning. We were down around fifth over the weekends. We jumped way up. Oh we're up to third. That's amazing now here's the show breakdowns individual shows what does that s. e. c. The wow on the weekends yeah. The to the mountain days tend to get more more listeners. Move coming in thirteen. J b squared twelve. Then wow. i don't know why you're not on the other one. Yeah we'll get lama. Vida up there. That's audience is growing well. There's probably a an herb apple. Podcasts for salford. South america cool questions. All right Against sorry i didn't click this guy's name because this is great and says is basically saying. Do you realize they're eight road world champions of the last ten years who are all racing in this year's tour and are still in the race and i was surprising to me. Actually that was normally a few. Maybe this is a lot if you guys can name them necessarily or something. I mean i know you. Obviously cavendish is a world champion. Rui costa verde And that you know the that helps the stats when you're eighty years old. You're still in the race so he he may be around them all. Actually three brothers names not a philly. Joe bear okay. Now you're getting there. Who was doing all the work at the end for cav. Okay that's easy. Current world champion. Leap oh yeah. Okay georgia time and his hausky. Aqua calcio saigon one more missing one. Oh one more gracious Matz pederson boom boom. I only know that because he he Unfortunately hit the deck today. So i saw it. You see you know. You always see the rainbow stripes on the sleeves and collar but Yeah that's a lot but The question was. Can you recall a tour that had that was more stacked with rainbow. Jerseys we i can we. We talked about early on. Don't remember that many world champions. I mean perhaps it was but not that i recall. Yeah and thank. God they just let them where you have to be the road champion to where the rainbow stripes beck member back in our day. Guys weren't winning like junior. Bmx world championships. they'd be rocking the rainbow. Yeah i think a lot of people are asking on the new we do kits released. Do they get the wheelchair. Perhaps they are not sure if they are will champion to send us some evidence you can have. I'll send you mind will make you some whatever. Yeah yeah. I don't care what division it was of course any other questions. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah says hi. My friends and i listen to the podcast and love hearing about the strategy and breakdown. We understand power to weight ratio but we are always wondering how it how it is that torture france. Riders have the endurance power to ride the race. When they all look like they haven't eaten for a month. I've heard lance talk about eating less while training for the tour but don't they need food to produce the amount of power required for such a grilling race. That's from lisa will they. They at this point. They take in a lot of calories while food. It's the period leading up to it. Where you know you gotta be. You gotta be like and so the you know. There's there's months and months where you're in. You're not you're going to bed hungry but the other thing about these athletes is they're so efficient like you can talk about the distance and all the this is. It's not easy for them. But it's it's sufficient for them you know it's it's they're just they also all have now. A lot of the best guys in most of them have full-time nutritionist. On the squad. They know exactly the amount of calories they burnt on that stage and they know exactly the amount of food a lot of the measure their food in the in the stages which probably don't my stat. I haven't escaped. I never measured my food. He probably did. But that's just no fun. But i mean that's what it takes these days to be on top of the game but you make a good point when you say being more efficient. Because i've heard coaches talk about this. Because a lot of people up the bike for weight loss and then he hit this plateau because you become become a better cycle. That's why runners are you. Can if you want to just get skinny than go run because you'll never be efficient running like cycling ultimate after a while. You're you just adjust and adapt. And it's it's another speaking of running another thing. These guys are doing during the season. Probably not definitely not a tour to france but a lot of these top guys. They're going for runs fasted before they go training in the morning before breakfast. Now what are you. Yes are you kidding me. We're not getting some of these top guys are going for thirty minute runs. That's the intermittent fasting thing just Train their bodies to use the right energy sources but they're going for runs in the middle of like the season before breakfast and then they go get their training rides. Ooh i had not heard that that that i find that very hard to believe. Yeah some of the top top guys better be. They might be doing that. But i'd be careful swimmers. And how does that stack up with the efficiency and calorie burn even more. Yeah swimming swimming swimming. Nobody's going because you know the last thing they want is an ounce of extra upper body muscle. True here we go. I was wondering what type of tires and pressure the riders in the tour using especially during these cold wet mountain stages are tubular tires. Still thing or has. The majority of riders moved onto the new technology from stephen in new york. Damn good question of which. I do not know the answer. I know a couple of years ago. Some of the writers were weary about using to bliss tires because they were scared of getting a flat in a corner in the whole tire. Coming off. and you're you're most likely going down I think that's sort of starting to change. Where some of the guys are us into bliss and and clinchers as well but definitely to believe there was still part of the game. Yeah but they're it's all changed like when we were racing. The tires were much narrow. Time trial bikes. They were like nineteen aired up pumped up to gas gas one. Forty one fifty. Now they'd go other way. Oh my god. I mean just yeah an intense but now they've gone wider and lower pressure. Which if you would've told us that back in the dow to said you're crazy but they've proven that the just rolls better. It's gotta be more grip on wet descent. That's for sure. I'm white or saw name of the game is keeping rubber on the ground and it sounds funny but any i mean if it's just twenty percent more rubber touching. The ground is just that much safer some of our school mechanics. Julian would would age our tires in his wine cellar for a couple years especially for rates like parents were bay to get him. Nice and ready. Yeah there's a hamptons joke in there somewhere. Hamptons joe my age tires to pull out the seventy two vittoria. These have never been out of the cellar. Love the show. Quick question win. Does it make sense for a team to try. And share the work equally among their domestiques to keep everyone together versus expanding and dropping them one by one over the course of a stage. That's all the best from yacht. This is funny. Yawn chinese guy with a euro name. He he calls himself. Your did you call on the chinese. No that put in parentheses chinese guy with the euro name young right on your own while i mean ten days into of france. Everybody everybody's waking up feeling tired some guys Recovers state start. Some guys recover one hundred kilometers into the stage star so basically the guys are communicate with each other and of course the leaders don't have to do work until the end like this man never touched the wind until the very end but a lot of the guys. The domestiques like myself. We will talk amongst each other. They have. I'm not having a great today. let me. i'm not having a great day today. Let me do the early work. Or i'm feeling really good saving to the end. I mean they just communicate the so. The distribution of work is based on how you feel that day and how you ridden throughout the year as well and earlier in the race. It's it's nobody's figured out who the fastest guy is so teams. They'll share the load. They look at each other. And okay. we got a fast guy. You gotta fast guy. They'll share a little bit at this point. Yeah i mean they're all you a quickstep now. They're all pros. They know how they're feeling they. Not there on that final. Climb like we saw the other day. We saw brandon mccoy nolte. Sorry during the early work He perhaps he's still recovering from injuries. And etowah guys. Let me do this You know second and third last time you gotta do. The final climb communicate well one more for today. Enjoy the show. I've been listening since the early days and the trailer does seem like a lifetime ago. Doesn't it Egon bernal seems to have recovered from his back injury and looked strong winning the jiro. Do you think he could possibly challenge pogo. Hr next year. At the tour de france with the ineos team behind him. that's from bob and alabama. Then i don't know the answer. This kid is right. now unstoppable. I mean most likely. He'll win a second tour de france this year and we can see him when a lot more. It'll be it'll be interesting to see Bernal come back next year and perhaps it will make the battle more interesting. Yeah they gotta they gotta have we. The sport needs his head to head. I don't know i don't know why you do that. You're on in the in the welte and even then i don't know that he can compete with poetry and we're always talking about how strong is with the the death of their squad. Ua keeps packing on more and more guys. We just read this morning. That's salsa lara's going to you a was one of the world's best climbers so there are clearly looking at the future and they got got your signed for another four years on the keep building strong. The team stronger and stronger. Yes sort of an endless budget there over the ua like we need to say okay. Well does he wants. Okay like there. There's they're stacking the team to support hogan polka polka chart in. I think johanns's even says the same thing we didn't we didn't have a sprint goal. The tour we had one goal to win the tour right and we'll see him. There's other young you got remco van opole. You've got this other guys coming up. That i don't wanna get ahead of ourselves because we did this two or three years ago with brunell when he won so everybody else should just quit and then bam comes. Povich are and so that they're you know the decade is going to be exciting. I send those questions. Comments the move it we do dot team and try and we got a big day to that. 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