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Effectively Wild Episode 1375: The Is This Guy Good? Game

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Effectively Wild Episode 1375: The Is This Guy Good? Game

"The. Consider. Good morning and welcome episode thirteen seventy five baseball podcasts ban, grass dot com. Brought to you by our patriot supporters. I'm Sam Miller of ESPN along with Ben lingered, ringer, bent. I what the name of this baseball hot cast for. What what mystery no come on? No way. I didn't think actively while your hitting mystery podcast goodness, effectively wild is the name of the show. That's right weird. Hello, how are you doing? Well, I was I was talking to some east meadow crew members in the past week. And so the honorary member of the crew at this point, they of course, are responsible for the true win. But I got my mind blown Ben I was introduced by another part of east meadow crew cannon, which is that Andy one of them. Andy has long argued that inside the park home runs should not be called home runs because they're they're so different. They're really just an extended. Triple play does not stop. You aren't allowed to trot gracefully around the bases at whatever leisure. You choose. It's a it's a it is in fact, an entirely different act in a lot of ways than the homerun that we all know in love that goes over the that goes over the wall and introduces. A whole new set of protocols, and so Andy's view is that it should be called a quadruple. And I can't argue the only the only thing I can't argue actually one reason I can't argue is that you are running for home in an inside the park home run. It makes sense to have a home. Be that one. It makes less sense to have a home run be the one that goes over the wall. It feels like that should maybe not be called a home run. It should be called a four Bagger. Because as soon as you hit it, you get four bags or something of that sort right around tripper makes sense. Well, I guess not exact if you think about round-tripper as the ball the the ball that you hit being the round tripper than it makes sense. If you think about it being the the trip that you make then that's no different than inside, the Parker. So I don't know. But I do sort of agree that there's there's something so fundamentally different about the two processes that. It's weird to call them the same name so weird to credit players with the same the same stat. Because it doesn't one does not necessarily tell you what kind of hitter is. If the other is what you think of that being right? If. A guy has six home runs in. They're all inside the parkers. You would not think that's a power hitter. But the purpose of accounting status, not necessarily to tell you something about that hitter is just to tell you that play. Right. And inside the park home run has the same result. You get to circle the bases. You drive in everyone who's on the basis. You yourself score has the same value. So I would say that for analytical purposes, it's sorta strange that it's the same. But it's the same is like a swinging strikeout in looking strikeout both being strikeouts, right either way three strikes, and you got to go back to the dugout ES. But maybe no. I mean, a double is the same as a walk into Solan in base, but it helps to to break those out into two different things. Even though the end result is the same. I mean, we don't we don't we could take take into the extreme. We could simply credit the batter with how many bases. He ends up circling before he scores or the innings over in credit that to him, but we don't. Because there's the stats are supposed to capture as much as I think the point of the stats are to capture with as much detail as possible what happened in as few columns as necessary to know what happened. You wanna be as at have as much information as you can while simultaneously taking up as little space as you can. And so the question is whether the benefits of concision here outweigh the the cost of precision. I don't mind I think that as your example of of the double in the walk in the steel. I mean, you're you're sort of conflicting base running stats batting stats. They're they're both offense. So you could lump them together. But I think you'd lose some valuable information there, and I guess you do with an inside the park home run. But at this point it comes around so rarely in an earlier part of baseball history inside the park home runs were the more common ones is Suma. I don't know exactly what the percentage was in early. Baseball history before people certainly all of them. Right. I mean, I presume that. There was a point in baseball when the homerun was named where they're probably were no fences. Maybe. Yeah. At least in some places. I don't know if major league baseball ever had a year without any over the fence home runs. I would assume there were some. But yeah, obviously, the the percentage has flipped there. But I don't mind it just in terms of recording. What happened which is that the better drove himself in and everyone else has the same value. So I'm okay with it. I'm not ready to be yet on all on still thinking about it. We're gonna later in the show, maybe maybe immediately. But certainly later in the show I would like to talk about relievers and bullpens, and then I'm going to make you extremely unhappy for the last half of the show or so no options, non exactly so. But before we get to that. Do you have any banter? Yeah. Couple things on the subject of home runs. Have just written something. About homerun robberies because we're kind of living in a golden age of homerun robberies, which I had not really made that connection until recently. But I know that you are not a big fan of home runs as highlights. You just don't think they're that entertaining. You don't wanna watch ho Bruns because there's not that much suspense in kind of see it. And we've seen it a million times and the ball just goes over the fence, and there's no fielding play involved, usually. But of course, homerun robberies are extremely exciting. Maybe the best kind of highlight one of the best kind of highlights because you're taking something where you're almost sure that you know, the outcome, and it's a home run. And then the exact opposite is happening at the very last second. And it's I think probably baseball's most breathtaking play the homerun robbery not all of them. There are some where it almost doesn't look that difficult. Maybe it's a short fence and the outfielder just times it, right? And he's kind of playing deep anyway, it doesn't have to go that far. But. You know, like the Jackie Bradley, jR, type homerun robbery from last week. That's about as good as baseball play gets. And as we speak entering play on Monday. We've had twenty home run robberies in twenty nineteen which is a lot. You may not know just instinctively how many run robberies as a lot. But for instance, in some low home run seasons like two thousand eight two thousand fourteen there were like thirty one thirty three homerun robberies all season and were up to twenty already this year. And this is not a one year small simple blip last year. There were sixty five which was a record since sports info solution started tracking this in two thousand four the are before that twenty seventeen was a record also at the time sixty and basically right now this season where it about thirty games per homerun robbery. And if you look at save the ten years from two thousand five to two thousand fourteen taking us right up through the end of the low Homer era. Before the recent explosion is about twice as rare. It was like sixty games per homerun robbery back then. So it's not really something you can like tune in expecting to see if you watched every single game in a fifteen game day, you'd have to watch two full days of baseball to see one on average even this year. But it's something that I haven't really factored in when talking about whether home runs are exciting. And whether this current brand of baseball is exciting, and whether we've cheapened the value of the home run because they're so many. Well, it also means there are many more homerun robberies than not enough. So that you get sick of them or that they're not so special but enough that you get to see the modal more regularly and over this period two thousand four to two thousand nineteen that this has been tracked. There's a point eight two correlation between home runs per game and run robberies per game. So basically when they're out of homers being hit there also a lot of homers being robbed. And so we're seeing more than ever you are right that it is not something that you would notice. If you were just watching baseball, but because homerun robberies every single one of them rises to the level of highlight rise. Yes is a lover of getting your attention in some way. This actually was something that I when we were having our conversation about noticing things would you notice and over noticing around that time I thought I'm noticing a lot of homerun robberies. Yeah. And I thought about about adding into the list and then almost right away. Matra blood actually wrote about this in his newsletter the pending bowl newsletter. He had a good observation in here. Which is that not only are there. A lot more fly balls being hit and lie balls that go home run distance giving more opportunities from anomalies. But that I'm gonna read this paragraph. And shouldn't surprise anyone. Then to know that the average starting position of the league's center fielders has gotten deeper every season since twenty fifteen from three hundred and twelve feet that year all the way to three hundred twenty one feet this year the same applies for corner. Outfielders as batters hit it further and. Fewer ground balls to the infield outfielders have every incentive to play deeper and try to catch everything that goes over their head while staying in the park, so outfielders are also a plane closer to robbery territory, which I think is good and makes makes it more possible. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's partly positioning. And I think it's largely ho Brunson and fly balls being more common in airballs being more common. The average distance of a ball that becomes a rob Tomer is three hundred seventy six feet obviously that varies by outfield position. But I think that's kind of the range were a lot of light bulbs or being hit Glenn tribes or being hit these days. So it's nice, and in this was also something I just noticed because there is a day last week when there were a few homerun robberies in row, I think there were maybe three in one night at least, and I made this connection, which probably shoulda made sooner. But but didn't but yeah, these are I think the most exciting place in baseball. And we get them often enough. That we get to see a more often, but not so much more often that it spoils the fund. So I think this is an underrated aspect of the PICO run era. I agree wholeheartedly, and in fact in at the toward the end of twenty seventeen I wrote a case an argument that the best play in baseball. The the most exciting sort of common. Play in baseball is no longer the home run. But is in fact, the deep fly out because when you see the ball hit when you see the ball leave your screaming for the first time. And then you hear the crowd noise immediately, the expectation in a high home run era has become that's gone. You just now no longer. Will it get out you think? Well, that's out there all out everything's out. So the the now the subversion is actually the subversion of expectations is actually when the ball stays in. Right. And I just anytime I see an outfielder going back on a ball these days. I think I think gone. On. And when he stops four feet in front of the warning track in front of the wall on the warning track. That is now a surprise to me every time, and I'm always like that's just a significant as a home run a non homerun is just as significant as a home run. So I love deep flyouts and homerun robberies are the perfect deep. Fly out the latest that your expectations can be subverted. I agree with you that some home run robberies are obviously not as equal to the Ramon Laureano type home run robberies. And I also would say that there's homerun robbery inflation not all home run robbery highlights depict home runs being robbed. And I I believe that not all home runs tallied interest in my opinion. On their way out of the park. Now that might not be true this year. But I believe that in the past. I have seen homerun robberies that would have in my opinion, come up short. So there is a little bit of inflation. But that's just because we like them, and why not inflate we all like it more when we think it was going to be a home run. And so, you know, you're telling a better story. Yeah. I agree with that. I don't know actually whether Bs or SIS is data over counts them. But I do know that when I sometimes see highlights that purport to be of home run robberies. They are not always it doesn't seem like they are. It depends on what angle you're looking at. 'cause sometimes there's an angle that conclusively demonstrates that. Yes. That was definitely headed over the fence of nut for the glove. But there are other times where it can look like that from one angle. But then there's another angle, and you see that. Oh, no. It was probably gonna hit the top of the wealth. Yeah. But sometimes it gets passed off as a robbery anyway, I'm probably I would say that in my life. I have seen maybe twenty five highlights that were described as homerun, rob. Stories that were not or maybe maybe twelve and a half. Maybe I'm over exaggerating by by one hundred percent. So maybe twelve and a half. And I can only think of one that I saw that. I thought that was missed hag. I just wanna have a healthy amount of skepticism of that. But that is the anomaly that I'm recounting so anyway, homerun robberies. Yeah. One other thing. I wanted to mention Edwin Jackson was just traded or I guess technically purchased by the Toronto pooches over weird transaction type to say the person was purchased. So at to say that he was traded for money to the Trump jas from the as and he is not pitched in the major leagues yet this year. But he is probably about two in Toronto because their rotation has been thinned they need some help. And where do you go when you need rotation help? Of course, you co two Edwin Jackson as many many teams have before if he does make his debut for the buddhis- that will be his fourteenth major league team. And that will be record. He is currently tied with ACTA vio tell with thirteen teams played for. So he's about to be the all time leader. And I wonder what it is. You think pout Edwin Jackson that made him likely to be the all time leader, unless it's just a pure randomness and fate dictated that he would happen to be picked up to dropped the disposable. Or is it something about him in particular that allowed him to prick this record? Well, I mean, it certainly helps that he debuted when he was nineteen, and you know, that that gives you a few by the time he for instance, by the time, he hit this is I mean, this is part of the hand waving of the of the answer. But by the time, he hit free agency. He was probably twenty seven and had played for sixteen already. And I mean a lot of guys when they're twenty-seven there. They haven't even reached arbitration yet he only played for two teams. In his first five Innes for six years in Bohol. But they were all the the first four were all partial years, he was very young and so on and so forth. So that by the time he was twenty five he was playing for his third team. He was in arbitration he was in that sort of trade zone far earlier than anybody else generally gets traded. There's the fact that he for a long time was sort of seen as more exciting than good. I guess is a way of putting it like there was always a a feeling that there might be another gear there. He was a highly touted prospect. He had glimpses of brilliance he threw hard. And anytime you have a combination of of throws hard and results aren't there? It's like pitching coaches all think I will I can fix that. And so that probably helps as to why in the later stages, though, why he would be I mean, I don't. Is it as simple as he he will go where James shields will not maybe. Yeah. As far as picking up going as far as you know being out there and bring training trying to get you know, a team to sign him. Whereas a another pitcher might just say, I mean, I don't really need this. So if it's easy than I'll do it. And if it's not then all stay home could be it could be that. It's I don't know there. He has sometimes been good. Even in these years when he has largely been bad which helps he's got you know, he's not the thing about Edwin Jackson, isn't it's not like every team regrets. It by any means. He's he's you know, he's a he's a good tiger. Like if you're a Tigers fan in your name and good Tigers. He's a good tiger at which makes sense. He was twenty five when he was a tiger. But like he was also a good White Sox player pitcher white sock. He's like he goes down in White Sox. More is a good white socks and a good cardinal. And he was a good brave, and he was a. I was gonna say cub and not really a good. A and so like, you know, you're flipping the gods flip a coin whenever Edmund Jackson signs a new deal and about half the time it works out. Well and about half the time it doesn't. And that's I guess how you end up signing with a lot of different teams. Yeah. But I don't know. I mean that doesn't really answer the question we have not explained why he's setting a new record, which by the way, if you had me answer the Edwin Jackson sparkle yesterday or a week ago naming his thirteen teams a million percent chance. I would have said Bluejays before I said a couple of before I said Braves before I said Marlins before I said Orioles before I said Diamondbacks, even when he threw one hundred thirty four innings with the Diamondbacks. That is partly because he was a blue Jay for a minute. Okay. He didn't pitch for him though. He it was like a it was a transact. It was he was in the the three team deal. With the cardinals and the Blue Jays and the White Sox. But it wasn't really a three team deal. It was technically two separate deals. And so the technically the White Sox traded him to the Blue Jays. And then later in the day. The Blue Jays traded him to the cardinals, and I have lumped that deal together in my mind as as he was a blue Jay, he's only thirty five. So he could continue to add to his record. I kinda hope he gets to fifteen o fifteen is. I hope he gets the thirty. He's only thirty four and like thirty five to thirty five this year. So two teams a year for seven more years. Yes. You to like twenty eight I don't know if he's good enough to be attractive to teams for that much longer. I think he was very attractive to teams early in his career because he was top prospect. He was one of the top prospects in baseball perhaps the top pitching prospect. I don't know he was the number four overall prospect in two thousand four according to baseball merica don't know who is a head of him. But he was on that list for three. Years and then because the results weren't there. And because as he said he did throw hard people could look at that former prospect status and say, oh, we'll pick him up, and maybe he'll break out for us. And this'll be where he fulfills that promise. And he never really did. Except for short bursts. He had the one all-star season with the Tigers in two thousand nine but for the most part he's been mediocre, but good enough that almost any team could use him at any one time. So he's got like a a ninety one career Yaar a plus he's a below average starting pitcher. But every team almost every team needs a below average starting pitcher at some point during the season. And yet if you have him you're not going to hold onto him too tightly. So someone comes along and says I need dead Jackson. Most of the time you're going to be pretty willing to give him up just as that team's going to be willing to acquire him. So I think he's sort of in this we spot where he is both expendable and desirable. And. And he is a former top prospect. He's had good stuff. He's obviously played in a thirty team era. When there's a lot of player movement, which makes it easier to set the sort of record, but it's a special sort of career. I don't know whether it's a a fun career a good career. Whether if we talked to him he would tell us that he wishes he had played for one team the whole time or or whether maybe he likes this. He likes being in IT starting pitcher who just gets the go new places and pitching new parks and make new fans and have new teammates. So perhaps there's something to be said for this. It wouldn't be my favorite type of career personally. But I could see why it would be interesting never get stuck in his ways. He he'd never probably really gets tired of where he is. Because he's never been there that long one of the variables that is it play for at Jackson that I might have said would have been a bad trait for this type of record. But has maybe arguably turned. Out to be what is made it possible. Is that surprisingly he has not really ever converted to relief. You would think he had one year where he was used exclusively as a reliever for the cubs and the Braves, and then he had basically a very short stint with the Marlins an even shorter Ston of extremely short stint with the Orioles where he worked out of the bullpen. But otherwise he's been a starter this whole time, and you would have thought like if you were talking about twenty nine year old Edwin Jackson who that year was eighteen with the cubs had ERA plus of seventy eight and was twenty nine. Okay. So if you'd said, well, Edwin Jackson's already played for eight teams, or whatever it is that point what would it take to get him to a record fourteen teams you'd say, well, probably he convert to relief. Find a new gear be a pretty good right handed reliever. And then signed one year deals everywhere. But he didn't do that. And it strangely has made him more. He has never become the former mediocre starter termed dominant reliever that. Is a baseball archetype these days, but he has in a way than rare midseason like when you're in the middle of the season in you need a new reliever there's like a thousand options available from every direction. But if you need a competent starter who can actually, you know, jump in right away. And you don't have one in AAA. There aren't a lot of those guys out there and Edwin Jackson has maintained his status as that guy. Arguably. I mean, it depends how where you're setting the bar for acceptable starter. Not all years has probably been above that bar. But that's what presumably got him signed by the as last year. That's what presumably got him signed. By the Blue Jays this year wasn't that they needed a another reliever to add to their eight relievers. It was that you simply unless you're going to blow penetre you simply need five starters. And it can be hard to find five starters. Yeah. One other thing I should say this makes history in another way. Which is perhaps not that surprising. But on episode twelve eighty eight eight answer to question from someone. Who wanted to know? Actually, I think it was air cartman wanted to know who has had the most ever teammates nen den. Hirsch, look this up for me. You can't totally answer. This question with complete satisfaction because it's hard for former years to tell like who was on the roster on any given day. So the way he did it was just to look at, you know, add up all the total teammates on teams that you played for in the year that you played for that team. So maybe you didn't overlap at any one time with everyone who played for that team in that year, but close enough so he added that up this was less October. And at the time Terry Mulholland was on the top of the list. He played for eleven teams over twenty years and had seven hundred ninety one teammates by the Stephanou Shen and Edwin Jackson was second on the list with seven hundred sixty three so he was only twenty eight teammates behind Mulholland. And if Edwin Jackson ads the twenty nineteen Blue Jays to his list than that will get him over the hump that will put him number one. In the list of most ever teammates, just kind of cool distinction. If I just told you that someone had the most teammates ever, would you assume that he was a bad teammate or a good teammate or a bad clubhouse skyer good Cup has guy. I have no idea whether Edwin Jackson is viewed one way or another. But does a lot of movement from team tell you, oh, they don't wanna be around the sky heat. They like maybe the abstract more than they like him in person when she shows up. They can't wait to get rid of him. Or is it more that you hear that? This guy's a good guy. And so you're happy to bring him into any clubhouse any team because he's always a good fit a thousand percent the ladder. I mean, I think the key here is that we're talking about a player on fourteen teams. I think if you're talking about a player on four teams five teams than you could go either way. But once you get to a certain point, then you're you're definitely the latter. Your guy that when you're sitting around go on? Well, there's nine million equally. You know? Indistinct options out there kind of. I mean, I just I just argue the Edmund Jackson's and so, but you know, what I mean like nobody out there is gonna is gonna come in and pitch like a Cy Young. You've got you reach the point where I know that major league baseball is not like the stompers. But the conversation is Dino agai like who do you know, who we know? And I think that being picked up over and over again like this that I don't think that someone is looking at a list of players running projections on all these out of baseball or AAA guys and saying who's got the point two four six projected war instead of two point point two four five projected war. I think everybody at that point projects to be like replacement level, and you go who do we like who do we want? Who do we know who's somebody vouching for who do who's the veteran in the clubhouse vouching for who's the pitching coach? Vouching for who's the GM vouching for. I think that all suggests a guy that is pleasant to be around and beyond that, I just don't think you can go to fourteen teams without getting better at being clubhouse guy. I think it's a skill that you would build up with each transition. And so even if somehow maybe Edwin Jackson was not clubhouse superstar at team seven by team fourteen. I just think he's got those muscles. Yeah. And if he were not a good guy or a good enough guy. He would run out of chances by now. All right. I think I'm done with banter. So we can transition to the the part that I'm not gonna like, oh, you're not gonna the first part. You're going to be fine with. So I I wanted to just a little bit talk about relief pitching this year as it's been we talked early in the season about how relievers were being out pitched in the aggregate by starters for the first time in modern bullpen history and wondered whether that would be true and at the moment, and rob Arthur than also wrote about this well at baseball prospectus in late April. So that's worth reading as well at the moment. A things have tightened as as we might have expected. But currently relievers have allowed a four point three. One ERA starters have allowed a four point two nine ERA. So starters are still lower than relievers. That has again never happened in the post say LaRussa era, and it's generally a relievers generally about eight or so percent better. And I don't think that they've ever been any less than. Three percent better in that three percent better was last year. So while we are seeing some regression, I I would guess that since you, and I had the conversation relievers have outpitched starters because they've closed the gap so much, but in the large sample of six thousand innings on on in one group in forty five hundred innings in the other group, it is still about about the same. Now, I will point out that by ER a measures. There are three kind of ways that starters have an advantage over relievers one and by advantage. I mean, they're your a they're pitching. Let me put it this way if starters relievers pitched exactly the same starters would probably end up with a higher Yara than relievers four three reasons. One is that if a starter pitches a partial inning and say allows to base runners those two base runners by definition came at the beginning of inning and are more likely to score. Whereas if reliever pitches a partial inning, perhaps relieving starter and gives up to base runners. Those those base runners are coming in the later part of inning and are more likely to be stranded. Not because the pitcher pitched any better. But because they came quite possibly with outs already on the board. So that's one way that more of starters baserunners are going to score minimally. But that's that's out there. A slight another slight factor is that if a reliever doesn't have it one day it's possible that he will be bailed out by a walk off victory with will leave more runners on base that might have scored had the inning bene- loud continue. But will instead be counted as stranded again, minimal. But it's a small factor. The third one is that for some reason, I don't know if this is this year exclusively or of this is always the case for some reason or another but starters have allowed a well. I guess this one goes the other way, let me think I can't remember maybe all these go the other way, I don't remember which argument I was making start was allowed more unearned runs this year, which actually goes the other way, isn't it? More of. Started a higher percentage of runs that starters allow have been unearned. Yes. So if so stars in relievers pitched exactly equally but more of starters runs were und- than starters would have the better ERA. So that cancels out cancels out, doesn't it? Yeah. All right. Good. So then we don't have to worry about this. They all cancel out. Exactly so starters and relievers are basically equal. So I was thinking about a what it's like to be to have a car pool lane. A you don't have carpool lanes. You don't try? But the way a carpool lane works is if you're if you've got multiple people in your car, you can go into the carpool lane, and it goes faster. And so if you're carpooling you hop into that lane, and that can save you a lot of time and the question of whether it can ever cost you time for the most part can't because if it's ever going for some reason slower the carpool lane is more crowded than the other lanes will everybody who's in the car. Lincoln hop over to the non carpool lane. And so at worst, you should reach equilibrium right at the very worst. Carpool lanes could be going as slow as the others. That happens all the time. That's very common carpool lane and non carpool lane going the same and also carpooling going much faster than the others. That happens all the time. But carpool lane going slower than the other should basically never happen. Right. And so in the same in rob Arthur's piece, he has a sentence. That says there's no logical reason that relievers should pitch worse than starters. And so that would be like the carpool idea that if if relievers start pitching worse than starters than teams could always go back to giving more innings to their starters. And then at the very worst should be fifty fifty. And maybe that's what we have found. Maybe we have reached the point where the carpool lane is equally crowded. And so you're just gonna have it be identical. But I don't think that's quite true. I think there is a logical. Reason that relievers could pitch worse than starters. And it's that this mode of pitching that teams us now is not exclusively about getting more relievers into the game. Which is the main the main reason that teams do it. They relievers are all really good and mornings to relievers is better than mornings starters. But the other benefit of it is that it has made starters much better potentially. It has given. It is turned a bunch of starters were throwing two hundred and forty innings a year with any RAF three point, you know, whatever seven now can throw two hundred innings a year within the IRA of two point nine because they're not facing the lineup as many times, they're not getting tired. They're not getting hurt as much and so fear radically. You could have a situation where relievers look worse than starters. But if you were to give more innings to starters than starters would look worse than relievers. And in the aggregate, you would have more runs allowed does that make sense to you, Ben, I think so okay. I think so too. But I'm not totally sure. Anyway, the point is. Is that we are still seeing this thing that we thought we were seeing now a few more things though that are relevant to this. There have actually not been more innings thrown by relievers this year than there were last year. Exactly. There have been basically the same share of innings going to relievers this year as last year it's up like tiny tiny tiny from forty point zero percent to forty point two. But that's that's basically the same. I don't think that's a seasonal thing April and September are the two years when relievers get higher shares of innings than starters do. But so it will go down a little bit. But then it'll go back up a little bit. My eyeballing was that this is probably pretty consistent with what we're gonna see for the whole year. So there's that the other thing is that pitchers per game has actually dropped slightly this year from four point three six per game last year to four point three one this year. So the trend toward using more relievers has seemingly stalled this year. So we might have reached. Max reliever role, or at least maybe hit a pause because I think max reliever role is going to be. There aren't starters all relievers in that's going to be sometime between now and seventy five years from now. But it doesn't seem like it's still accelerating. Right now, the however what has happened this year is that more different relievers are pitching than there were last year. So the total workload for relievers is basically the same as it was last year. However through teams, I thirty seven games this year or maybe through thirty eight every team has played at least thirty eight games except for the pirates played thirty seven. So I think I went through thirty eight games. There have been four hundred thirteen different pitchers this year that through at least one relief appearance. Four hundred thirteen that's up from three hundred seventy last year. So more than ten percent more humans have been called into games as relievers to get the same number of innings this year. And that was a record last year that was twenty. Five more relievers than had been used through the same point in twenty seventeen which was more than had been used in Saint point twenty sixteen and compared to two thousand ten so just just ten years ago, the same very decade there were a hundred thirty fewer pitchers used through this point in the season in twenty ten than there are this year. So almost fifty percent more pitchers yard are taking the workload. And so you could say that is because relievers are bad and that teams are going to more relievers because the relievers they have have not been pitching. Well, and that that's the exact same. That's actually, maybe the the effect of relievers being bad or you could say that it's stretching the pitching rinks thinner by having teams do this either through roster shenanigans, or whatever reason that they're going to more pitchers in that that is the cause of relievers being bad this year. I'm not sure which way it would go. But there are a lot more pitchers. The other thing. Is that as you noted last two years ago, you noted that the distribution of saves had become much more democratic you remember this? Yeah. I actually I brought about that more recently. And you did I'm gonna talk about both in twenty seventeen you looked at how many what percentage of all major league saves had gone to each team's saves leader through April, and it was like like seventy nine percent, which was an all time low. But it wasn't that much of an all time low. It was it was lower than other years, but not like significantly this year. I just looked at the same thing for April of this year in it had dropped seventy three percent. And if you look at the number of pitchers who have at least one save the year that I think last year actually last year was an all time record of sixty something sixty four I think the norm is about like low fifties. This year there were mid eighties. Tons and tons and tons of pitchers are getting saves. You also wrote about the distribution of saves last year at the. The end of the year or toward the end of the year and found that this was true throughout the season. And was excel rating. So yeah, I wrote about this spring reading about the Red Sox to you wrote about this ring. Yes. Are you wrote about last year? This right, right. Yes. Yeah. Should we mentioned because the last time we talked about this early in the season. We've got a bunch of questions asking is this just a combination of the opener and position player pitchers who are making starters, look better and making relievers look worse. So is that worth mentioning as a factor since both of those things are becoming more common? Well, the position players pitching. I looked at when the first time that we have this conversation, and it was not a factor. It was such a small such such a tiny percentage of innings that it did not really change anything at that point relievers were like three percent worse than starters. And if you take out position players pitching, it'd be like two point nine one percent or something like that worse. And of course, there's always been some position players pitching. And I hadn't even controlled for that in previous years. So I don't think the position players pitching is a significant factor. Although now that they're tied more or less. These two groups are tied. If you really wanna know like if all your thinking is by. Mary which one is better than. Yeah. Maybe that would flip it from slightly better to sly Lee worse. But the general theme is is is not as for the real the bullpen and the opener. I have not done the map. I think it is. A it is complicating factor in doing any of this stuff. These days in RJ Anderson wrote a piece kind of about that last year it's worth noting that the opener or bullpen. Ing has not really taken off this year. There are more in April this year than they were April last year because the rays didn't really start doing it until may. But really there's only been like fifteen ish. Maybe now it's high teens issue games that have used this approach this year almost all of them raise games. Couple of angels games a couple of others. But like we're talking like fifteen to twenty of these starts out of like more. Well over a thousand games played. And so I. I would not rule that out. But I just just glancing at it. I we're talking about pretty big numbers here in those are pretty tiny numbers. Okay. So so anyway, I don't know if you have anything I wanted to update those things into point them out. And I think that they're interesting. I don't know if you have any response or if you want to go straight to the misery. I want to prolong the less misery as long as possible. But with get there at some point. So I guess I'm ready. All right. I'm sending you a link, and I'd like you to open a random number generator. Okay. All right. So as noted there had been more than four hundred relief pitchers this year more than four hundred. It is really crazy to think about how I mean. Is there any other sport where a greater percentage of the action goes to players who are a by almost by definition, considered second-string considered substitutes, and that are because of various factors that sort of the most anonymous players on the team and where like literally half the league is those guys and they pitch half the time and they're in for all the most important moments. It's crazy like what just thinking about baseball as a sport nowadays compared to how it was a sport in the past is interesting, but anyway, four. Hundred pitchers. I have sent you a list of the two hundred who have the most appearances this year, and I have taken out. Well, I'll get to that. So few years ago, maybe a year ago, actually, I propose that I wanted to develop a game. But I didn't know how it would be played called is this reliever. Good and you and Michael Bowman attempted to play with no no instruction from the the games. Crater? I really respect you just the idea. Let's play this game tried one method of the game, and the method that you guys played that you picked a reliever who had notable numbers, and then you guys debated whether he was actually good like these guys all have like ER as of like point six, and then you debated well as good, and you looked at their recent performance in their fifth and so on and so forth. That is not how I envisioned the game the way I the game was actually more along the lines of this game is the sport is populated. Bye. And dominated by this class of player that we have an extremely hard time keeping track of that. We don't even know most of them like the vast majority of people on this list. I could not tell you what team they're on. Yeah. A baseball this year. Like, I've watched way more baseball this year than I think I'd do in a typical year. And I don't know I could probably tell you seventy percent of the teams, and these are only the two hundred who have appeared the most but beyond that there. So flighty these guys that even have you know, who they are. And where they're pitching it's very hard to remember if they're having a good year or a bad year, for instance, Greg Holland who maybe we'll maybe I'm going to give you an answer here. But at one point Greg hall and had a zero Yara like a week ago and is closer for a team and has been extremely successful this year and last year, Greg, Holland, the only time I wrote Greg Collins name was when I wrote about position players pitching and gave Greg Holland as an example of a major leaguer who had a higher Yara than position players pitching. Which was I wrote that in like, July or something like that? And he had any RA in the high sevens. So it's extremely hard to remember to know all these players to keep track. Them and then to have any idea whether they're good or bad in the moment. And then certainly have any idea whether that means they're actually good or bad in real life in reality in true talent. Yeah. And so my concept of the game as I thought that I was was introducing it was that you would have to without looking say is he good or bad? And so I've sent you this list I removed every pitcher from this list whose ERA is between three and four point to those those guys who knows I don't even know if that is good or bad for reliever. So all of these guys are clearly either good or bad. Okay. And so you're going to roll a number, and you're gonna give me the name, and I'm going to tell you if he's good or bad, and we're gonna see if I'm right, and maybe we can look and maybe his area will be two point six, and I will get that wrong. But then maybe you can then still debate. Whether he is actually been good or bad based on things like fifth or stranded runners or the last week, or whatever the case may be this could be a two tiered game. But in the meantime, we're going to see if we can get it. Right. So I have done no prep out of respect for you. I have done no research into any of these players. And and the way we go you wanna go I will. So I'll just say that I prefer this game to the game that Andy McCullough and Pedro Maura have played on their former podcasts where traders blues, which was just like is the sky relief at all or completely making this name. Yeah. Which? That that's a potentially even more embarrassing game. But again again that I would fail really bad at that. I realized recently is probably something I should be better. At is. Does he switch hit? Oh, yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. I've never been a strongest you'd think head of hitters, but I think that this is something that caused the mine something rhetoric Joel wrote that was in job. No MOS book that we talked to them about last week Rodrigue Joe has been sort of nostalgic about the sixteen team era, the pre expansion era when you knew everyone and guys would come and go and teams would come in and out, and you'd have a relationship to each one of those teams because he'd played them so many times in each season. And I don't think that's a reason not to expand necessarily. I think it's probably better for the world for baseball fans in general to have more players more teams for more cities to have teams that they could root for go see than it is for people who already have teams to be more familiar with everyone who's on this opposing rosters. But. I think that is something that I think about it write about and have written about the expansion of rosters pitchers and players used. I think is negative. It's in that positive in that more guys get to be big leaguers, which is great for them. Yeah. But it's a negative in the sense that at any one time, there's a pretty high percentage of Mitchell players who we just don't know. And could tell you nothing about if quizzed which makes it seem a little less special to be a big leaguer. I don't know if you if you can be a big leaguer. And no one knows who you are a no one knows that you are a big Laker does that make it less special? Maybe but I think it it does kind of go hand-in-hand with what we've talked about before. With the starting pitcher no longer being the protagonist of games, and suddenly it's just the succession of faceless. Nameless. Pitchers who you don't know. And you won't have to know for very long because they come and go and those guys are taking up such a high percentage of innings that in terms of the game being story. Us being consumers of that story. It's sort of a less rich experience. I think but anyway, the ethic we can we can get to the game. I guess I'll go first. So yes a role, and then give me the I think we should at the very least we deserve to know the team name too. So that we don't really humiliate ourselves. So okay. So so you've given me this baseball reference list here of what two hundred player swell, minus the guys with the IRA. So it ends up being like a hundred and forty years anytime. Okay. So I am going to use this random number generator to have a random number that corresponds to the the ranking on this list. Yeah. Do between one and two hundred eighty you'll roll a number that does not correspond anybody. Okay. All right. So I have generated my first random number, and I give you the name of the team. And that's it. That's right. Okay. Dylan Floro who is of course on the dodgers in one. I've heard of Dylan Floro, I'm gonna this is. Tricky because Dylan Floro, I believe it was this year out, but it was so early. But I believe it was he who was batting against John. Ryan Murphy Diamondbacks catcher twice in a blowout. And I wrote about that as a as what happens when hitting pitchers face pitching hitters, and so that was very early in the season. However, he was pitching in a along in a bad blow out. I mean, it was the good side for them. But still it was applaud so clearly Dylan Floro entered the year with extremely low leverage bought the Tigers dodgers have been good and the dodgers are so deep that if you are pitching, very poorly, they wouldn't necessarily have to go to you at least ten times or whatever it takes to get on this list. And so almost by definition being dodger who they keep going back to would suggest that you've been pretty good. He did. Pitch. Well in that game. I'm saying Dylan Floros good tone for has a zero ERA. Yes. It. Dear way to that. It's her. Glad I didn't know what was done this year pet. Yeah. For has even he is he's giving up three hundred runs, but yet zero area in eighteen innings, of course, he was very effective last year too. He has this is funny. This is always funny when this happens, but his last two outings he gave up to both of those gave up unearned runs. So before that he had allowed zero runs, but he basically was still in low leverage for the most part until his very last outing in which he came into a game in the eighth inning as a setup man would do any Blewett. And so that was his first I mean, he's at occasionally he's been called into high leverage. But he had been a leverage guy in almost feels like this was like the moment that they said. All right Dylan, we believe it. And he he didn't it was a he gave up one hit and struck out too. So it's not like he. He he meltdown or anything like you pitch pretty well through seventeen pitches and got five swinging strikes. And so that's a pretty good outing. But the hit was a home run and he lost. Oh, that's that's wild bitsis is a stupid rule been who what is this is a relief pitcher who came into a game and gave up an unearned run on a Homer. How dumb come on. You can't do that the fact that there was an air earlier in the inning. That would have ended the inning when other pitchers were pitching. So you should have technically been out of the inning it shouldn't have existed. But then you shouldn't have even been called into the game. If that's that's a bad unin road. Yeah. You know, this is we actually got a listener Email about this game and about that scoring decision. I think from Jeff's Neider who's one of our pitch around supporters. And he described the situation he asked me to contact our official score keeper contact than listener that we. Sometimes ask for advice input on these kinds of questions. So he wrote Jeff wrote in last night's dodgers that's game. The nets one on a farrago pyro grunts lamb because the inning was only still going because of Justin Turner error all the runs were unearned. But according to rule nine point one six, and it's comment. The runs charged to Scott Alexander in Dylan Floro should have been earned against the pitchers but unearned against the team. But all of the stat sites are still showing the runs as unearned I'm rarely one hundred percent sure of anything, but I'm hundred percent. Sure. Alexander and Floto should each have one earned run charge to them last night. And my missing something or all the stat sites wrong. So I did contact our official score listener. And he said as kind of a preliminary enter the listener is one hundred percent, correct. I need to go back and watch the inning in its entirety. But looking at the description, he is right? I also think the stat services have a tough time accounting for this. The math doesn't work for totaling puck score. I need to make sure that there isn't something else going on here before I give a one. Hundred percent answer. I will respond to soon as I get a for sure. Answer including contacting the league to make sure I understand what happened. So it's not followed up with me. He was going to ask MLB for clarification. But it was his opinion based on working at what happened that those runs should have been earned for the pitchers, so perhaps stone for should not. And does not it will not have his euro era. But either way he's good. He's been good as I knew. Right. All right. So I I have rolled and your your reliever is Sergio Romo of the Marlins. Okay. So all the things that you just said about how you good to be toucher. None of that applies. Maybe it applies reverse because the Marlins set the terrible and Sergio Romo of courses quite old. Aloha is pretty effective as I recall in recent seasons, still misses bats. But. Yeah. I was doing this year. I will say that he is pitching poorly. You're correct. I would have gotten this wrong. Because I I recently wrote about the teams that had pledged not to use a closer during spring training. And the Marlins were one of those teams, and they have as most teams historically do completely gone to a closer in Sergio Romo is that closer. And so not only was was the dodgers Marlins logic inverted for Romo, but the leverage logic was also inverted Romo has been closer. He has I think he has six if I'm not mistaken six of the Marlins seven saves and his Yar is six point. Oh, so he's been he's been poor now with that said four of his eight runs allowed came on opening on the first game that he pitched in and in Colorado. Since then he has any are a of three point zero nine and strikeouts per inning and three strikeouts per walk. So, you know, your classic Sergio Romo thing. But no, he's been bad Marlins. Closer Yara of six that. Okay. All right. We are reroofing again of cut my number and lever is is the part. I don't like your early very someone whose work. I'm sure you're very familiar with Ryan Harper. Him a couple of days ago, he came into a basis loaded. No outs situation and got out of it without allowing a run. And if you gave me two and a half minutes to think this through I could even tell you what team it was. His Minnesota twin. Yeah, I was gonna actually thinking it might be the twins. He came in Pineda. I believe had left the bases loaded, and he got out of it. Your specific Ryan Harper anecdote to share. I would not have. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. I can't remember if the twins were winning or losing though, it makes all the difference in the world to know if it was like a three to two game and they brought him in. Then that would be big time. That would be no doubt or the twins have a closer who's Blake Parker, and they have a relief ace whose Taylor Rogers. And so whatever he is this man Harper. I forget his first name. He is not one of those two which doesn't necessarily mean anything, but he is not one of those two. I do know he has one scoreless inning. And so the very least like that's on his stat line. I'm going to say that Harper has been good Reinhard. Offer has been good. He has one point six five year. Right. Right. All right. How it's Rhine. Yes. Right. Is David that only exists in baseball. Right. Totally relievers. Really? Like all these guys named after Ryan durin. Dads just like from the time. They were old enough to walk their dads were drilling them in in having funk. You've got a got a hall of fame rind got right said, maybe maybe that's a little more. Like, I've never heard the name Ryan outside of baseball ever. I can name like nine rhines off the top of mind. So he is a yeah. So seven seven strikeouts per nine three point. Oh, five fifth. This might not. Oh, wow. Thirty year old who made his major league debut this year. It's always fun. Thirty year old made his major league debut and has a one point six five thirty seventh round draft pick in two thousand eleven who was signed as a free agent. Probably a minor league free agent by the twins a year ago. Previously traded for the other Jose Ramirez. All right, Ryan. Yeah. I think you're recent research has prepared to better for the skin that has. I didn't really Harper. No. But you know, who's the closer pike close to the closer on each team, which I did because I haven't looked that up and I don't play fantasy. Not as well prepared to talk about that. But I've just rolled a low number. So we'll see these are ordered by appearances. So I think low numbers are generally pretty good. So let's see here. Yes. This corresponds to a player. So is handle row bliss on the angels? Who good? Oh boy. Hey, wait a minute. Yeah. I think you get a I you get a pass here. I thought I deleted everybody with a three to four point two, but he's at four exactly few. So somehow he is not he is not that would have been impossible right rolling, again a moment again, and here of and this is not easier. You have a player who I've never heard of his name is Tyler Kinley, and he is a Marlin. Oh boy. All right. I'm actually happier to get one that neither of us heard of because Hetzel replaces I I know he's a pitcher. So I feel worse about not knowing how he's pitching whereas Tyler Kinley, or is it Siler Tinley. Who knows? I would know. Is it Ryan Ryan line Rheinlander? Really? So I mean going off nothing here, except for the fact that I don't know who he is. And he's on the Marlins both of those things would lead me to believe that he's not good. That's that's evidence that is closer to the not good side of the scale. I've already struggled once betting on a Marlins reliever being bad. So I guess I'm going back to the well. All right. Well, would it help? If I told you that his Yara is less than half of what it was last year. Well, I don't know what it was last year. But it was it was hard point two seven. Oh, right. So it would not have helped this year is five point four. Right. He has struck out twenty two batters eighteen innings, but he has walked fourteen batters in twenty two innings. So he's been very wild his a fifth five point three any are a plus of seventy three and yet he was number twenty five on this list, which means only twenty four relievers in baseball have been as in demand as Tyler Kinley who was a rule five draft pick by the twins who got returned to the Marlins for being not what the twins wanted. And so that the yeah, you got it Tyler your two for two. I've got a new name and this one has yet fairly this would be this would be challenging. But I think you lucked out here because I have my I want it to be. It's Travis Bergen. Seperatist go giant, which is why I thought maybe this would favor you because I don't know how much more giants baseball. You still watch the other teams done if any. Travis. Berg Travis Bergen Travis Bergen is a he's young. I hope I think I believe that Travis Bergen is one the job out of spring training. And maybe throws a hundred and maybe had good minor league numbers hand. So if you'd asked me it beginning of April is he good. I might have said, yes. But I believe all giants are bad. Up and down the roster. So I'm gonna say Travis Bergen has been bad. That's correct tribes Bergen has a five point one for era is a rookie. He's a lefty he's twenty five years old. And had the giants bullpen been good for a while was it they're like a period when Britain at some point about like the giants bullpen was propping up the rest of the team the staff or something. But anyway, yeah, he's not he's not one of the people who that's Bergen is a rule five pick this year. I'm now looking up, by the way, Bergen was a rule five pick this year who had zero point nine five Yara last year in the minors, which is a good. All right. Let me see if he does throw hard. Nope. Not throw side ninety miles an hour. All right. See here. Do we have a player for this number? No, go again, reprieve dodged it. All right. You dodge another one that was I was one off from Josh hater. Oh, okay. She probably would have gotten that one. Yeah. All right Hector rundown. Who is an Astro, right? Yeah. So Hector on dawn was the Astros closer last year until he was displaced by SUNA. I believe and so he was pretty good. But not great. But given that he is on the Astros. The Astros are good and the Astor's have so much pitching that you've got to be pretty good to be the Astros bullpen, which doesn't mean that you have to be good over fifteen innings or so, but because he's a recent closer on a good team with deep pitching. I'm gonna say heck Dorando has been good. He has been good. I think there have been there have actually been to terrible Astros relievers in. So the logic could have lead you astray? Yeah. Maybe arguably three in fact, but rundown has a two point one nine ERA which kind of covers up for some things. He he has a fifth in the threes. He's striking out fewer than a batter per inning. But yeah, he's a guy. He's a guy in there. He's he's he's been in the seventh inning this year. Not the eighth as well. For whatever that's worth. But he's good. All right K. I've got an number. It is not a pitcher. Are it another number? This is a pitcher. Okay. We've got Miguel Castro. Poltimore orioles. You know, I almost I almost got. I I've been meaning this morning, but I didn't get to it to look up small fry Paul fry because FRY's cotton. Got any RAF like three point two? And I wanted to see if he was in fact as pagoda prophesied the best pitcher on the Orioles at the moment, by the way, Richard buyer has a fourteen point yet for Jahra, but only four innings and then he got hurt down. Yeah. I mean, it's an Oriole. What are you going to do is? You gotta say, you gotta say, I yeah. You gotta say bad on Castro. I saw Castro pitch on this. I think on the third day of the season didn't really I don't remember much. Okay. So bad. Yeah. Six point six three era for Cal Castro. He's actually pitching a little bit better than he did last year when he barely struck out more batters than he walked, but he has still been quite that he's given up lots of thing. So. Yeah. So safe bet we're doing well on on using context. Clues here to make educated guesses with no actual knowledge of this pitchers performance. Should we want one more? Sure. All right. And then we'll stop recording. We'll just keep playing this game for the morning. All right. Get we have here. Scott Alexander of the Los Angeles Dodgers, right? Scott alexander. Okay. So my impression of Scott Alexander's that he has been good that he was good last year except for maybe some important moments when it wasn't good. That's my vague impression. But but he's pretty good and going with the Dylan foro reasoning of dodgers good. And if your dodger, you're probably pretty good. I guess I've got to go with the with good. It's it's I mean, we're entirely using context Cousy I wonder just how many relievers I actually have certain knowledge of goodness or pettiness. I've been waiting late. Great lakes. Wanted like if you gave me Chad green. I would get it. I know that one I, and I know Nick Anderson, and I know raise Miranda. And I pretty much at that point. It's like, well almost anything could have happened in the last two days. Exactly, right. Yeah. They're very few pitchers who I know how they've pitched this year how they've pitched recently, which if you're reliever we're talking about fifteen innings total one or two Pat outings could completely change the answer. So I'm guessing basically, no matter what they might get here. But given the tea and also familiarity with the past performance of this pitcher that improves my odds may but how'd I do with Scotto center? Alexan- you got it narrowly. He's two eight four Yara. So he's on the good side. He has a fifth of three point nine. He's been used as a lefty specialist this year. And while he is pitched well enough for you to win. He's also pitched like perhaps a guy who might be eliminated from the. League next year by rules, changes up more than half of his outings have been two or fewer batters. So, but he's been fine. He's on the good side. All right last one last one coming on Chad heated perfect so far. So the pressure is on right? Got a number end. I've got a pitcher Luke Jackson of the Atlanta Braves. Oh, I've got nothing to go on here. Well, they're they're closer just got demoted which you might say if they're closer like demoted. I think if I'm correct demoted to the minors. That's not good. And so if you get the motor to the miners before losing your job it suggests that there's not a guy who they're dying to get into your job. Yeah. It also might suggest though that there is a guy that they've got dying to get into your job. And that's why they're comfortable sending you down. But I would go with the woollen. Let's see it seems to me the Braves field. The Braves field of me like like, I think about their individual performances on the rest of the team. And it seems like they got a lot of guys playing. Well, but they don't have a great record. So it must be the bullpen. I could be wrong about literally every single part of that sentence. I'm going to say that Luke Jackson has been bad. I got a Hobo. Oh, what does he done Jackson's for good? How to put to five twenty fifth is also good three point. Oh, six. Oh, good. I thought this is not like a thirty seven strikeouts to walks thing that. But he's he's been very good. And I think your reasoning was solid because I think the Braves bullpen has been weakness for them this year. They have let's see by at least park adjusted fifth. They have the sixth worst bullpen in baseball. And if we just wanna go by war, which is obviously dependent on workload as well. As effective nece. They are the fifth were spoken by war. So I think that your your supposition that the Braves have not been that great. Even though other parts of the Braves have been very good. And so the bullpen must've been bad. I think that holds up, but I guess Jackson is the exception. All right. Well, it would not have been appropriate for us to have aced this. That would not have been the outcome. Anybody wanted? Yeah. That's right. Okay. That was those funds. Are I didn't hate it. I loved it. I meant to ask you, by the way, I forgot to bring this up. But you tweeted a picture of two giant spa heads actually at a video of two heads. And you made the case that bobblehead technology has gone backward. Say you had a nineteen sixty two head and two thousand nineteen bobble head and you bobbled both of them and the has nineteen bobbleheads. Just barely bubbles in comparison with nineteen sixty two bobblehead. And I I don't know whether this is generalize. -able whether this applies to all bubble heads past and present. But that is my impression that bobbleheads a have gotten more realistic looking which I think is his a bad development. I think it's better for them to just not relieve look like a character kind of more than attempting to look like the player in falling into the uncanny valley. But also you want a lot of bobble bobblehead, that's the whole point. And there's just barely any bob'll in this new what was who's the new one in who's the old one in? The new one is Willie Mays and the old one is nothing old one is just I don't get the old one is supposed to be any anybody. Just a just a funny looking kid. I think she's I'm sorry this during that if someone's going to be like that's their land is paid a bobble head. But I think he's not I think he's just funneling that bobblehead the I mean, I this video is only fifteen seconds long. Yeah. The sixty two one was still going seven minutes later. Like like faintly, but still going seven minutes later, and it goes, I mean, it's awesome. It goes when you walk when you walk across the house at bottles. Yeah. So I wonder if someone out there listening, I'm sure someone listening has been involved in bobblehead production because someone who's listening is part of every profession that comes up on the show. This is baseball related. So if you know about bobblehead manufacturing, whether the methods are different in whether there is actually empirically less Bob across the board. These please tell us because I agree. This is also my pression that there's just not enough bobble these days. I don't know if it's just because they're more bobbleheads bobblehead inflation if to rush the bobblehead production, and so maybe you can't use as quality components for the Papa ahead. Maybe there's just actually less bobble. But this is an unacceptable amount of bobble. I think with this mase bobblehead. So if this is a trend, it's a negative one. Yeah. I mean, it's not even. The the Willie Mays one isn't even a bobble. It's like the spring on the bottom of door door, John. What do you call that the door door stopper? It's like you spring at once. And it's like moving it, just that's it. It's got little attention that immediately wears it self out. Yeah. All right. Well, I'll linked to the tweet if you're in the know about bobbleheads, please let us know. So we will end there, and you can all go play. The rent reliever has been good or bad game yourself. You can play this at home. It's very easy at you. Don't even need to people. Could be like solitaire. So thank you for showing us out supposed to be played. All right. See later this week, right? When quick follow up. We mentioned mid episode that Dylan Floro probably had a correction coming and deed. 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Wednesday 5/15/19 - Bulls Draft Lottery (ft. Big Cat & Carl)

Chicago Dog Walk

18:19 min | 2 years ago

Wednesday 5/15/19 - Bulls Draft Lottery (ft. Big Cat & Carl)

"For all right. Bang bang. Today is Wednesday may fifteenth Chicago dog walk guests to the day are big cat and Carl boys. So another gloomy day. Hey, it's actually nice out New York. Once I two days we were here pretty shitty. But today's actually nice, but circumstances and us coming in. This is the second. The very first episode record this show is after the bears lost outside. Now. We're here. Again. I forgot about that. How are you feeling on day two? So we're obviously talking about the balls being the seventh pick and having what was seemed like tanking season that we're going to get maybe Zainir John rant and in the seventh pick for the third straight year. Which is insane. That's insane. Do we know for sure that John's ion are not available seven they? Well, I would I would take him at seven if you're there if they're there that so I am stuck in this like spiral where I just don't think the bulls will ever be good again. I don't I don't. Because like go through the time line, right? And you trade Jimmy Butler because you basically say like all right? We we probably won't win. We can't we were they fucked up building around Jimmy Butler sign Rondo sign way too fucking while million a hundred million dollars, and then they have to trade Jimmy Butler and the become the laughing stock of the NBA, and you're suddenly like we need to have an impact player sky Jimmy Butler and build around him. And we don't have one like I like Lori. He's not that guy. Zach Levinas can score. You can't do much more than that. Like so and getting the seventh pick again means you're going to just keep getting the same good good, building blocks love Laurie love window Carter. Great. But if you know the NBA you need one of the top five players top ten players and league to win a championship. Well, you say we won't be good again. But good is very relative in the NBA. Like do. We are we going to be maybe we'll be like fourth seat. Good. Here's what's going to happen. I had any I'll tell you, exactly. What's going to happen? The bulls. Just they're literally just. Going back in time. So they traded Jimmy Butler like think about like the de rose bowls were talking about the other day their ceiling, obviously, LeBron was in the east their ceiling was, you know, five games the Eastern Conference final the Jimmy Butler when he was going to try and do it like their ceiling as maybe the second round. The bulls are going to build the team good enough to get to like losing five games in the second round. Yeah. And that's where the that's like the end goal for what we got going on right now. And that's why it's relative because who's good now because the warriors every fucking ear. So it's like all right. There's clearly them. And then there's like the two teams at like, maybe take them. Herb steal again for them in a playoff series. And then there's the teams that goes to the western Eastern Conference files. And then there's the teams that you know, just get bounce right away. So with winning records. So I don't know like what which category we're going to slide into. I mean, if you get top to pick we could've been one of those teams that may maybe competed and lost to the warriors sucks because it's like this was supposed to be the like the year that the tank kind of worked and they were. The fourth worst team. And like how many you have your computer in front of you right now. How many how many games of the bulls lost in the last three years? It's gotta be like a hundred and fifty right? Like they've they've lost. So many games in the last three years and all they have to show for it is three seven picks. Again, not hating on seventh pick Kerr kind because the seventh pick. Lori was great pick. All these things went oh Carter. We were joking last night. Kevin white was seventh. Seventy you. Go down the his thing. Clayton Kershaw was seven pick. There's a lot of great seven picks. Well, dang, Chris men who traded but the polls of that successor. Can't you can't you just can't win a championship with just keep on going with seven stat chat hundred forty nine losses forty-nine law. Hey, quick question is the tank dead. Like, can you not rely on the tank if this is going to have a top three pick? And you know, I mean, it's just fucking disaster. But it is I hate to like encouraging here. It isn't courage in that. I don't think they're going to be that bad next year Carter's gonna play. A full season. They're clearly going to get a Jeep wasn't still fucking back out first as a strategy in the NBA is taking dead polls. Lakers Knicks when I don't think they're going to be a bet I'm saying, I don't think they're going to be like fourth-best odds bat like they'll still be like tenth and between ten and fourteen were not which as you could see you can still make some that happened with the ping pong ball. So that's not bad. No. It's it is interesting watching this being the first year that the and it was weird because I think actually the bulls technically benefited from a percentage wise because in the old rules. They would have had less than twelve and a half percent chance. I might be wrong. I, but I I just checked that stat check that. That was right. Okay. So they had a better chance. But yeah, I agree with you. I don't I think tanking the air has been kind of taken out of tanking if the grizzlies and the pelicans the ninth in the eighth best odds and up with the first and second pit. Now, Atty predicted the bowls gone after Koby white now, maybe you didn't predict that is hard. But you said I liked this. Call white guy a lot this is like a month. Or two ago. And you did the same thing with David Montgomery in the bears. So let's get a little bit in the weeds here for a second is called white is good. As you think? I mean, I remember you coming in during the final four during March madness, we were like do this do from UNC would fit perfectly the balls Kobe lights legit, man. He he's a point guard. He also complained to which is actually big because next year's there's a ton of point guards in the draft. Yeah. So if you're actually this is obviously giving guard packs way too much credit to have a like some foresight here. And being like, hey, let's pick a guy. Maybe Darius garland. Yeah. Like, everyone loves them. But he's probably just the point guard. Whereas like Kobe can maybe you're to guard, and you can trade Zach LeVine, whatever. But I you jinxed the draft. I he showed up to feel day. And was like Kobe what? Yeah, I love Kobe. That was more like a draft talk. Like, we're obviously could you have waited till they got the seven overall pick. Right. I mean the way it worked out it does seem suspicious. I'll say that. I just I don't know what to say I really like him. So it's like two it's like a weird thing where we might. Get the guy that I really like even though of course, I would've preferred Zion John rant. Don't get me wrong. But I mean, I don't know man like Kobe white. He he's fucking good. Well, the craziest thing was I is like from an actual standpoint of a fit in this is like you take Zion. No matter what he does not fit with. Now. He does because the polls have like I'm convinced Ables just gonna keep drafting Biggs and be like, let's just pack the pain. But if he is available at seven I still take we'll take him at seven. Yes. We will. We'll take Zion seventh. That's because that's confirmed if he's still if he demands to go to the bowls alive Manning's it. And he sits out the first six we will take him. That's a fact, but yeah, the bulls are fucked forever. There are a lot of trouble. Because the issue is is you need someone to step up and take a step you need that Victor depot out of quarry market. And I don't know is it gonna come. I mean, that's asking a lot. I mean. Yeah. He I like him a lot. But it's just I the only spins on I really have here is that hopefully this gets, you know, gar former John packs, John Paxson never gonna get it. Hopefully gets are formed fired which I guess. Doesn't do anything because John packs? We'll never get fired. So it's like, it doesn't even it doesn't even fix anything. It just sucks because you can't even be mad. You can't even hate the team that we have like we like a lot of the guys were saying that you put the roster out there. And it's like, I don't hate it. I actually do not hate it if everyone's healthy. And I liked the auto Puerto thing, I think he fits perfectly as the three. And if you add like a Kobe wider someone I'm done with Chris Dun Dun with crystal. Yeah, he's a reserve at this point. But I don't hate the Rosser. But it's just never the ceiling is a losing in five games in the second round the ceiling that is the best that this bowls roster do unless something drastic happens, which like it sounds like it might with Kevin Durant leaving the warriors. He's coming in the Knicks. Yeah. So a lot of weird shit happens. And like the league actually does kind of settle down 'cause lebrons about to retire. Like, maybe like three to five years, we could actually come you know, kinda rise. But one of those guys on your roster right now would have to become a top seven guy. Yeah. That's that's the only way. That's what she I mean. Look at the top seven. I mean, these guys it's only going downhill, right? What do you mean? I mean I- LeBron's on his way out. I mean Durant obviously still in the prime of his career. Russell westbrook. He's I would reverse it on you. And I would say if you look at the top seven Jaanus fucking youngest shirt is still under thirty which is insane. Yes. James harden? A lot of shots. Kevin durant? Jaanus is the big problem. Now, we're gonna have a we're going to have a Janas problem for the next decade. Like that's going to be a problem. I mean, do you think he stays in Milwaukee? I don't know. It's weird. Because everyone always I feel like everyone's saying like kind of the same stuff that they said about Kevin Durant. And then can so. Yeah. So I guess kind of up that like it's half and half. There's a mix of really young guys that are still going to be there. And then there's, you know beads a problem, if he can you know is a fucking onstar Steph. It's these guys that kind of the Titus starting to shift a little bit. I it's coming sucks. You really think? So I think the tide shifting in the wrong direction for the bolts, the east is going to be at the chair if counter it goes to the next you have Kevin Durant. You've you could argue if Embiid was like had a healthy season. You could argue the three best or three of the top four best players were in the east. Can't why don't free agents wanna come Chicago though. I don't know we were talking about this yesterday. Like, I don't know. Now, it's back to Tracy McGrady Grant Hill. Lebron Carmelo you can go down the list. No one. I think I don't know about what it was back in the day in terms of like that kind of makes no sense. Maybe it was the whole bullshit. Like don't wanna play in Jordan's shadow and all that stuff. But now, I think it's just the like guys talk, and they're like, yeah. Gar Forman and John Paxson her fucking assholes like they did the whole thing with Jimmy where they told them. They would bench him if either signs deal where they bench him. They fucked Robin this year chart packs choked out Vinny Del Negro, like there's like it's just a clown organization. It's Jerry Reinsdorf runs. A clown organization with the bulls. He doesn't care my garage door just like a fail son that does the same shit. And it's like it makes me mad because I love basketball. But it's like there's nothing you can do issue Ryan's earth doesn't give a don't get. Fuck. Fuck. He really doesn't. But to your point again, though, three out of the top four picks are going to the west. So that's nice as I knew that was. John Paxson specials like oh. Well got easier for us. That's what he says. I I mean, that's a real plan. Actually now that I'm thinking about it. They just hope that everyone gets really bad and the bulls stay like consistently like mediocre, the crap. I don't hate it. I mean, you have to be different right ads strategy, eventually fall back to the pack. And then the bulls can win the east with thirty one wins. I mean, he's never know. The east is wacky. Like that. I want to also talk to you guys about what you guys thoughts on HQ us. You're here. Right. Oh, yeah. Jimmy, the whole thing. Like, you guys met you. It was the first time you guys met a lot of our like a lot of people. So what what were your vote for me? You know, I'm I'm such a huge still I've been following barstool forever. So it is kind of like surreal even being here walking around. That was my first overall thing walking in and seeing the mural on the wall and being like Jesus Christ. I'm an employee here. Like, I'm working I'm sitting down to like write a blog and do so for that's like the emotional reaction physically. This place is so much better in different than the last office. I mean, I cannot. The amount of projects that are going on construction people everywhere every every great podcast to has their own studio. So that's like a good goal for dog walking for Redline radio when we get our own studio. Yes. Yes. No. It's sweet. And it's cool because you there's places to work to like we could come in. And we could sit down somewhere. Like, you're not like worried about bumping people. Like there's chairs that like are not falling apart. Yes. I like, you know, they all have like four legs, not three. So it's really nice, man. Like, I I don't know. I don't think anybody's complained about it. No. I mean, I like I said the only complaint I have is that its New York City. But yeah, it's everyone's great, right. I mean to us. I mean large poured me shot of vodka at eight thirty in the morning and Willie just drink all the time. You like. You like I like to. I'd like to soak the bottle and ice then freeze it, so there's an ice block around it that way the vodkas perfectly chilled. Some people just have a knack for like finding something. That's like Dow is genius large has made like part of his like brand just drinking and eating really good food. And you're like, that's a fucking genius moved. You're playing chess while everyone else playing check have you ever done. One of those Friday things the gentlemen, Friday. Yeah. Always show up after their. They've had got a formal invitation. If you wanna come really, I I'll I'm inviting you guys ESP to ease. I guess I didn't want to be like well at seven AM. That's kind Tom. I don't know if I could talk and start boosting. Oh, yeah. They get going. Yeah. And I I don't want to sound like a pussy. So just you know, but yeah. And a lot more people work at this company than when I started another reaction. I can't believe how many women up on the second floor at the sales business than to. Hey, this is the production wing. This is the audio wing. This is the it's kinda cool. These people over here. Is this production? Yeah. A lot of production. That's like a little hidden rivers pointing in random. Sorry. Sorry. What we're talking about? So like the first four the boy, if you like stool scenes, and everything you see the first floor. You see like, we're all the bloggers number to work. There is like the first floor like keeps calling and it's driving while. And it's like there's a the other side of the Bill like it's kinda hidden like nobody goes over there. Yeah. It is. It's crazy. There's a lot of nooks and crannies. It's it's wild though. We're like in this type of office considering I mean, you guys obviously know because you've been around for so long. But like the the ride is like insane that we're now at this point. Now, I heard you make a funny comment yesterday though at field day. I was just saying off this address next to KFC and praising your like remember when it was just the three of us in here. We are still in a field. Like, the all the barstool has done is our entire legacy. Is it was used to just be me? Kevin and Dave in a field doing the combine with Todd mcshay like eight years ago, all we've done is just multiply the idiots like we're just we. Just more and not worried he hits. And we got more Indians to come to the field with multiply the cameras big time. There was a million camps. One of the funniest things that happened to me up. Our sole fucking moving truck stopped on the bridge above the field yesterday in the guy rolled on those guys working. Who knows? It's Larry Lewis. But yes. So it's I'm happy. You guys were here. You gotta come more often. And at least we still have the cups. Yeah. Actually, our mutual friend who I won't say his name on the podcast. Roy doesn't want to be said protecting me after the bulls got the seventh pick and was like. We still have our one true. Love Kyle Hendricks. And I was like, yes. I mean, he's he's a dream boat. Don't get me down a rabbit because we'll be here for thirty minutes at. I love Kyle Hendricks time to be a cubs fan. He's at the point hundreds is at the point of now, he's obviously not pitching the same way. But he's at like the two thousand fifteen Jake Arrieta trust level. Oh, just put them out there. You're gonna get eight innings. He's throwing bowling balls. And the other thing is just how frustrated the other team has to be on you when you can't succeed against Cal. Hundreds throwing eighty six miles an hour. I'd be willing to bet that most high school teams in the Chicago land area. That have enrollment over like five hundred kids have at least one or two kids that consistently throw harder than Kyle Hendricks. And there are major league baseball teams going out there. He went three for four yesterday. The Cincinnati Reds went three for thirty. So he's crazy. I mean that that's the listen. That's how we wanted to end. This guy's we while we ought to be positive aware, much, Congo havi shirt. So the cops classic. It's had so many good sign shirts. Fuck. Yeah. They want to eat. It was good. We gotta. Make a call hundred shirt. Yeah. That will be our goal because although I don't know I feel like he's not like, you know. You know? We'll be like who. I think he'll get like all the stat. Nerds like sabermetrics, Scott. I see oh, you know, what I should make a shirt and then I'll have like some logo. But it'll it'll be just like his stats printed. Yes, some logo. But it'll actually if you zoom in on the logo it's like, oh, God, those are saver which is a page of baseball reference, h I'll put that I have time. I'll organize that. Yeah. I like did you create one lesson you create to info-graphic for? I did re tweeted that. Thank you agree this. I was sitting going through all these numbers on Hendrix. And I get in these weird wormholes. I'm just like all these numbers and like losing track of time and I'm coming across his stats like holy shit. These revelations is a baseball guy. Like, these are trends, this is do I write two thousand words about that that no one gives a fuck about. Or can I just take some time in PowerPoint and make a couple of infographics? So you know, what though I got separate myself. I try a little bit harder. So I thought I'll just put in a little bit more effort to get the message across Tommy spokes. What was that guy? Who's fucking? I completely. Blank on the name right now, the lefty we had like two years ago sucks, and he's a story. So I felt that wherever Anderson Anderson he Tommy created a stat for like a Brad Anderson step like how like basically trying to prove that. He was the best bread Anderson that he was the best pitcher in baseball. No. Yeah. I I'm gonna circle back with Tommy on the data Anderson is he's out for blood against people on Twitter. Credited Brett Anderson for sucking so bad that he got hurt in that one game. Where he I don't even think he got an out. And it was like, I'm just not I'm done. Nobody's not done. But he's not now he's back on the ace, which I mean, just in a time loop like Brett Anderson has been on the as for like even when he was on the cubs. He was on the as as our I don't know if they still the same rotation last year. Now, we're going down to real weird path the as rotation is fucking hilarious. It was Brett Anderson. It was Edwin Jackson Edwin. Jackson, kale, kale? Yeah. I was like what is going on right here. Just traded at Jackson. He set the record for most major Lewis. He's about to set the record. And I've been defending Edwin Jason's THEO was the first thing THEO did was given four years and fifty five million. And then he he just my favorite Trent. Yeah. He's got lost. Yeah. Loved it. Jackson and DALE'S fem that those are the two boys. Those are the big just whipping boy those are the big moments. Hi. This is fun. Big can. Yes. Thank you guys. All right. That's it for today. Everybody bang bang.

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Parker  Inside the (Rob) Parker - Springer's MVP start; Ohtani still mashes; Rob's Top 3 MLB Teams; Guests: Pitcher Edwin Jackson, Dodgers' reporter Cole Wright

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

27:17 min | 2 years ago

Parker Inside the (Rob) Parker - Springer's MVP start; Ohtani still mashes; Rob's Top 3 MLB Teams; Guests: Pitcher Edwin Jackson, Dodgers' reporter Cole Wright

"Hey, it's Kim dash show Beatle fans. Don't miss my podcast Dachau's Beatles revolution talking with other musicians. Like Lenny Kravitz or little Steven about how the Fab Four chains music. Forever listening. Subscribe at apple podcast or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts piece of loaf. From the berkshires to the sound from wherever you live in MLB America, this he's inside the Parker. You give us twenty two minutes. We'll give you the scoop on major league baseball. Now. Here's baseball hall of fame voter number. What oh three. Rob parker. Welcome into the inside the Parker podcast. We have a great show for you, including blue Jay starter. Edwin Jackson on the cusp of making major league baseball history with his fourteenth team also spectrum sports net. LA announcer, coal, right? He'll join us and tell us about the dodgers that and much more. Rob Parker here you they're welcome into the show. Let's go back to lead off. It's getting robbed and keep them off Rob's hot. Take the three biggest stories in major league baseball number one. His name is George Springer with the Houston Astros. My goodness who knew that he had another level, but he has another level people. Remember in two years ago winning the World Series MVP when he had five home runs and helped the ASTRO's beat the dodgers this year. He's infla- go on fire as of Tuesday. Batting three twenty three four hundred on base percentage. Six fifty two slug in leading AL with fifteen home runs in just forty two games. Are you ready last year? He only had twenty two home runs in a hundred forty games. So without question. Springer has to be the early front runner for American League MVP, he's hitting the ball harder. And the other thing is Springer has a point eight oh four slugging percentage on breaking balls. And you know, that's the highest of a hundred eighty batters with that least thirty such at bats this season. So he has definitely taken his game up a notch. It came at the right time for the Astros who are white hot, and George Springer is the reason why number two good news for angels fans. Shohei Ohtani still has that ROY. Aw power. He connected on his first blast of the season. Monday night to help actually the angels win a game over the twins. But after having that Tommy John surgery and the angels deciding that he was not going to pitch and only hit people were wondering would he be able to relive the homerun power that he had a year ago when he had twenty two home runs, but he is going to be must see TV even know it won't be on the mound at all it will just be at the plate. So the angels are very fortunate to get another big homerun bat and Otani will be deathly that God. He angels needed and fans wanna see number three. I know it's early and don't think I'm crazy but last night Clayton Kershaw faced off against Chris paddick. And you know what? Down the road. These two could match up again, and maybe even designed the division. That's what this is. This is like a classic matchup of the guy who owned the NL west Clayton Kershaw all this time and the new kid on the block. Chris paddock who won three of his first four starts for the Padres and had a stingy one point five five ERA heading into Tuesday night's game. Chris paddick talked a lot of trash has a hot fastball and is willing to strikeout guys. So this is going to be interesting as we go down in the season. We'll see these two guys face off. This was definitely one of those matchups that you wanted to see and looked forward to seeing as we played the baseball season. Now. Here comes the big interview. Listen and learn which so good less woke him into Ron Blue Jays right hander Edwin Jackson to the podcast. What's happening Edwin? How you doing? Or are you doing man can play life on the go as normal as usual? I know and all Wednesday you'll going to set a record for pitching for fourteen different major league teams when the Blue Jays take on the giants, and San Francisco, can you believe this fourteen teams? Man who knows who knew it would be fourteen different teams especially coming into the off season. I know a lot of people ask if I was going to sound with someone different just to break director, and that wasn't the case. But inevitably I guess it was meant to be, you know, longer outplayed a better chance I had a plan with a fourteen team here. It is. It's unbelievable. When you think about 'cause you're not that old did just thirty five years old. This'll be the seventeen big league season, you're appearin and you start in what two thousand and three with the dodgers. I mean curricula got years to go. A cat with nine lives. I mean like you say relatively in life. I'm young. But in the baseball world, I'm on a on an older scale. But I don't feel like that, you know, Steph for like, I have a little bit to bring to the table as I tell not too bad for no man, you know. Do the younger players get around with you because you've been around so long. They do they do you have some can't really they don't on thirty five dollars a little younger so is mixed here. And there and then when I tell people and thirty five they like what thirty five, but I like I like I like the kid around with him. You know, like my wife, she told me she looked at the roster. And she's like, oh, by the way, you Otis person on rocks man recited much for that. Right there. Appreciate that info have fastball. Still working what you got. Man. I still got less. They could break it out there. No good. But I just not a little bit more to the repertoire, you know, during a cutter curve change out during the kitchen sink, pretty much, my whatever I can do to get out, but still still got some life left in arm for my age. Let's go over all the teams. So you debut with the dodgers two thousand three you also pitch for Tampa Bay Detroit. Chicago White Sox Arizona, Saint Louis Washington. Chicago Cubs Atlanta, sandiego, Miami, Baltimore and Oakland and that was last season. And you was six three with a three point three three ERA in seventeen starts for them. And now the Toronto Blue Jays. Gimme your best. Stop and gimme your least favorite stop. What your best? Stop. Man. I would say my best stuff as as a good question. 'cause I don't get it twist about all I feel like all the teams I've been blessed to play some some fun teams. Right. I would say my best up my best. I was probably say Louis when in the World Series. My most fun start was probably Tampa Bay inches because it was like a young college team, and the least favorite. I don't have at least favorite. And that's what I say all my teams fine of from last year. Until when I first started landing every team I've been on as been a lot of fun on teams. Honestly, let's talk about the the, of course, the creme de LA creme the no hitter you had with the Arizona Diamondbacks a hundred forty nine pitches. You get a no hitter. You beat your all team to raise one to nothing. You had eight walk six strikeouts. How'd you pull that off? It was meant to be. I mean, you walk people, you aren't gay people you walk bases-loaded I in and get out of it. And you have you know, five more scattered throughout the game. And you still are no hidden is just meant to be in a that's of pro-child took the last enter, you know, stepped off. I was like I made to be is going to happen and step back on amount. And like, let's go. So there's no pressure obviously would have been it wouldn't have been as fine. You know, you throw it pitches. They gave up one hit kinda feel like like you throw those pictures for nothing, but it was pretty destined, you know, for me to get out there and throw that many pitches, and you know, still be able to get the test on what about that was twenty ten we're in twenty nineteen now with all the analytics and what's happening after the second go round by the hitters and taking guys out. You might not have been able to complete that with the way that they manage now, man, even if they didn't have it. I had a couple of minutes. Tell me I wouldn't completed that game. You know with that many pitches periods. So it was all perfect time have been under the right manager the right situation that they would have a little bit of say so and go out and finish it. And then actually get it done. I had a lot going on in my favorite day. Even though I had a walks here. So it seemed like I didn't have a lot going on in my favorite. But at the end of the day, you know, I was standing Todd on the mound would have no hitter. That's amazing. Is that is that your most cherished moment in baseball. Or is it something else? I don't know if that's what that's that's one of my favorite. But I mean, the debut on a birthday with family that that probably still has to take the cake and then also winning the World Series. So I mean, that's definitely top. During those are my those are my top three right there. How do you like baseball? Now. Just with the way with all the shifts mostly strikeouts. In home runs. You know, with the new analytic the way that they played a game is is it still cool of fawn or? I mean, I think it helps the pitchers out. I mean for me for me. I can't worry about that. I mean, I'm come from the school. And I know the game has changed a lot. But my mind said anyways is go out go hard as you can't go along as you can and help the team win. So I can't really get caught up into everything. Because I mean like you say is so many numbers going on. I'm still trying to figure that myself. I I'm asking these younger do like what's this? What's that was this, and they're telling me breaks on balls and all of that? So I go to the younger generation to get my information, and they they pretty much put me on game right now. So I'm still kind of learning everything, you know, as far as the end the lyrics. You definitely have some stuff. There's positive you can take from it. I feel like you just have to know what works for you. And what does it, you know, for me to try to fit it all of it out? It'd be you know, it'd be worse than me just trying to figure out where can help me pick and choose my my certain things that I use for myself. And use that. Well, all of it say is nothing but the best of luck in your debut for Toronto. And there is a record setter. Unbelievable, Edwin Jackson. Thank you so much for joining the podcast. 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How much value would the team lose if Mike trout gets hurt and replace them with Peter Borjas a player who put up replacement level numbers last season wars there to try to tell you how big the drop off would be a guy with one to two war is a role player for two five is an all star. Well, anything more than six will likely be vying for an MVP that season last year the Red Sox. Best compile ten point four wins above replacement way the ale MVP the highest Mark of any player since Barry Bonds. Now people scoff at war because it's not perfect even when it's not trying to be it's meant to pump up the players that contribute. The most in all facets of the game. Two guys who had thirty home runs with a nine hundred Opie s may not be created equal. If one is an elite defender and one is a D H, even though the debate will rage on war is trying to be a simple solution to a complex issue. All right. Anthony, you go. Maybe we'll look into that. Maybe not appreciate you. That Paul was a big week in the big leagues. Or is it fair and now feared shadow league dot com. And they'll be insider JR gamble. Boyce? Hopper was the only position player for the Phillies without a hit on Monday. And he heard the boos, but he also had a potential game saving play out in the field with the bases loaded is foul or fair to excuse his plate appearances because he made a potential game saving catch that totally Sal. You can't excuse that. Luckily, Philly has a good thing and you have time to turn around the season but awkward to get paid the big money flashes. Defensive genius. Yeah. Great defensive plays show that he's an all around player when he was born in here to mash and at the prime age of twenty six or seven MLB season under his belt. This was supposed to be the career year. Philly made moldings off season they landed him to act the top of the NFL. Lisa fox. I mean, they have gangs up on last year's division champs. So adding. Has it hurt them? But Ron I'm gonna need a laugh off at two twenty two with seven overrides of the league high fifty one k with Philly signed him. They wanna Jeff Bagwell thumper. So far, he's given up nothing. But Otis Nixon's glow. His Opie is the second lowest has been career and so far copies of bus for the bag. He got being obvious with the glove in the outfield is just not gonna cut it back. Fasten your seatbelt give it Bill. Give me here comes Parker's top-three MLB teams this week. Number three, Minnesota Twins twenty five and fifteen as of Tuesday, and they're leading ale central. They have taken the American League by storm and they're good second best record in the league and Eddie resort tied. Second in the league at home runs with thirteen number two the Shusterman Astros. They have the best record in the league twenty seven and fifteen George Springer is going crazy. He leaves the league with home runs with fifteen as of Tuesday, Astro just read off a six game win streak. They were not in one of their previous ten they are scorching hot. And again, look like they're gonna make the playoffs and make a run at the World Series number one. But still I know people are saying, you're only picking the New York freaking Yankees. Because you're from New York. No, I was born in Jamaica, queens. I'm not a Yankee fan, but they keep winning. They got there were seven three in their previous ten, and you know, what they're about the they wanna big series and Tampa Bay to audit three and they'll close to take over the AL. Lease the Yankees have more star players on the injured list, and they have in their lineup. They oughta best team in baseball. Listen to what I'm telling you. This week's winner is at the p s j ten twenty two and he's tweeting in from Detroit. Forget the current record. The Detroit Tigers aren't fully any of their die. Hard fans. Aaa club trying to charge major league prices. I'll stay home until twenty twenty one. At least if you wanna chance to win a new era snapback send your trash to at. Rob parker. S one on Twitter when rob was the newspaper columnist. He lived by this motto, if I'm writing I'm Rippin, let's bring in a writer broadcaster older new would join now, but my man coal right from spectrum sports net. LA Jew are always in on the dodgers. And that's what we're talking about. Please call tell me Cody Bellinger is like crazy on fire leading MLB an average runs on bass slugging opium hits third in home runs. What has happened here? I mean, it's the one man gang, rob. I mean, we we've seen it before me rookie of the year two years ago. And then last year, you know, we saw him, you know, sometimes sometimes cold, I think that that was you know, a byproduct of the interchangeability the dodgers line of season ago. I mean, there were just so many different guys who could play you so many different positions, and Cody Bellinger, you know, he just fell victim to that. I think this year with him. Being an everyday player. We can really see how good this kid is man. I mean, you know, what he did his rookie year with special. I think that this year. He's just he's poised for more that if you can see him in the line of every single day. I mean is in Florida with injury a little bit this season. Which is definitely not what you want to say. But I mean, this guy is the fastest cat on the squad. I mean, he he never gets jaded on a swing. He's just a special talent. And he's the good kid in the clubhouse man, one of the nicest guys. I mean, he'll give you a sound soundbite. Whenever I mean, always a pleasure to speak with men and you'll Cody bellinger's the classroom seasons. Khloe Seeger was in mired in a terrible slop six for forty eight. Then he had the big granny. What about Corey? I know he's coming off a major injury. Is he going to be able to check it out and be good again? Yeah. Mean he'll be fine, man. I mean think about how much time he actually lost. I mean, that's the thing coming back and being able to just jump right? Back in. I mean, I think right about now is when we're going to start to see p Cory Seager. I mean, it it takes a little while to get going. I mean think about it just in targeting get going until two weeks ago, you know, and then he's now he adds six runs in the span of I don't know like, you know, fifteen games or something like that. So I mean, I it's it's it's all about being able to crawl before they walk and not to say, that course, it your has to crawl before he walks does that mean his his resume your speaks speaks volumes. But the thing about it is I think it's just being able to get back in there find that groove, and and and then everything will fall into place, and I think he he's right there. I think it's starting to warm up. We haven't had the best weather in LA, rob as you know, at least by LA standard. So I think he just needs a little bit of that warm, weather you to touch them a little bit. How about an a bull pin kenley Jansen, you know, gotten off to a rough start was even talk. They asked him if he would be cool if the dodgers brought in keg, Craig he they asked him if he would. Be cool with the dodgers bringing in Craig kimbrel. And he said, hey, bring him in just not as the closer role. What did you make of that? I mean, that's kenley Jansen. That's his job, man. That's what he does. I mean, I'm sure thanks a lot of pride. And I know, you know, he's he's a standup guy, man. And if he if he says go ahead and bring him he he's all about the betterment of the team. So he's not about going up there and getting wins. And he clearly thinks that he's he's the guy for that job. And I mean when you look at kenley numbers, I mean, they stack up with all the best in the game, man. So I'm not really worried about anything. That's that's going on with kenley Jansen right now. I mean, I mean, he did he give up that grand slam the other day. Absolutely. But look at how he got there. They nickeled and diamond avai small ball them, which is fine because you know, both are hits just as well as as home runs. But it just it. It's a chain of events that happened. That's baseball by kenley Jansen when you know when he comes in more times than not adores gonna get closed. And I think that's what we'll see as the season progresses. And I don't think we'll see. Thing change them that if they bring in Greg cable, maybe he'll be the setup man that they were looking for in Joe Kelley because when we think from Joe Kelley hasn't been you know, what the invasion, I think. Right. As of right now, you know, they're just waiting for him to turn that corner. And I think he he will to it's just your change change of scenery getting used to the competition. You know, the NFL west is a lot different than the Aley. So if you had a big game and you needed to start a guy would it be bueller? Or would it be Kershaw at this point? That's tough, man. And it's a tough call. I mean, I think it all just depends on where you're playing the game. At who what the lineup is. I mean, you can't go wrong with either one of them. But it says that you caused because at this point Beulah has pitched that well that you would consider some other elements. No doubt about I been. I'm covered the daughter that at the at the at the yard at Walker Buick last three starts last Monday and Saturday. So maybe I'm a little bit biased by that. But I mean that guy goes out there he blows doors from start to finish, man. I mean when he's in the seventh inning. I mean, you already know what's coming ninety seven ninety eight ninety nine and you'd better get ready and keep your head on the swivel because that cat's gonna gonna bring it and you go to throw strikes, and you're gonna compete every single time. He's on that slab. 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Effectively Wild Episode 1405: The Rookie Mistake

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

1:40:21 hr | 1 year ago

Effectively Wild Episode 1405: The Rookie Mistake

"Hello and welcome to episode Fourteen Five Wild Congress Baseball podcast brought to you by our patrons supporters and fan graphs. I guess I have one of these in a while. I May Rally Fan Graphs and I am joined as always but been Lindberg of Ringer van. How are you I've missed you have talk? How was your also well love? My actual all-star experienced took place on my couch at home so not so dissimilar from past all star experiences but the futures game was great fun. I survived both getting to and returning from Cleveland. She's now at an easy place to get to France from Seattle anyway. I'll lose several more westerly. Compatriots had similarly tricky travel but it was it was nice. I had never been to Cleveland this good little Midwest City the Julie before the Derby to you yeah yeah yeah. I left before the jury but my flight had live E._S._p._N.. So actually got to watch most of the Derby despite not being there but watching the derby you know this is like the second year in a row like the Derby's pretty great. We want to be at the Derby right now. So that was <hes> that was a fun surprise feeling but yeah Cleveland School. I think think we should be nicer to midwestern cities. I think per kind of snobby about them on the coast. Yes like what like people talk about them like they're not sophisticated as if there's not Pinera in Seattle or something I'll get all every city is the same now they're all the same. We have the same restaurants everywhere like I've had arguments with Sam on this podcast. I think years ago where he was arguing that you couldn't get good food of certain type in certain cities and I was saying it's two thousand eighteen or twenty sixteen or whatever it was at the time you can get good food everywhere for the most part like but I don't know we subsequently heard from what do people people had opinions about that as they will up out cuisine and I do understand that there are cities where maybe you can't get every type of ethnic cuisine and maybe certain cities have big immigrant communities from certain places in the world and so it's easier to get good food of that kind but I don't know in general. I think that regionalism is a little bit over bonehead. You can eat well everywhere. Yes I think you can eat while I don't think you can eat everything well everywhere but I think again. I'm sure that there is a size is of city you know under which it is hard to <hes> get something maybe fancy but we should all just enjoy good diner. Be Fine with that. I think that's my philosophy get tighter. Everywhere Carr's Steiner's all mostly the same into wonderful wherever you go so I guess we should talk about baseball. were mostly going to do emails here. I don't know what to do for Banter because seems like the thing that we would talk about out is like trade deadline stuff which seven is sorta talked about last week and the standings and we might talk about that more in the future and I know you mentioned in your chat that you are writing something on that topic for next week potentially so don't want to steal your thunder there. I just talked to balance on the Ringer of O._B.. Show about the giants and you were just chatting in your chat about the giants as they're they're kind of the team. Everyone's like what's going on with that team right now because they're suddenly winning a lot and have been really oh good for six weeks or so and that throws a wrench into the whole trade deadline picture because they were like the one team that you could count on to trade and also have appealing players to trade and now they're probably still a team that should trade but they're the only three games out of a playoff spot as we speak and SORTA hard for decision makers to say well. I'm going to take the long view and I know this team probably isn't great so I'm going to equip it for the future by trading off pieces now even even though I am technically within striking distance and depending on how their next couple of weeks ago that's sort of thing I guess fans are smart and the kind of know the lay of the land. They're not totally delusional. I guess they're they're kind of delusional sometimes but I think they know the situation. The giants are in that the giants could afford to restock their system and young guys and trade some of these impending free agents but on the other hand if they keep winning for another week or two and they are that close to a playoff spot. Some percentage of your fan base will probably be annoyed that you didn't go for it yeah. I think that that is true. I'm going to say a couple of things about a couple of different states of fandom and I'm going to spend a lot of people who I just maybe made like me by talking about how we should be nice to people who don't live in the places we live. I think that they are not actually a very good team. Is My opinion of the San Francisco giants they have been winning as you said but I do not think that they're actually actually a good team and Eric Kylie kind of have been doing some updates to our prospect rankings in our our farm system rankings generally ahead of the deadline and the giants did improve <hes> in the last last little bit both through the draft in just decimation of some of the guys that they have but they went from like having the twenty seventh firm system in baseball to the twenty second from system in baseball at least buyer Kylie's estimation <hes>. They're pretty good this so I think that they will likely take the long view. If you're a giants fan what I will not say. What could you possibly complain about because my life is pretty great and I complain about all sorts of stuff so I should definitely not castroneves because I live glasshouse baseball? Life has not been as great. That's true and they're baseball has been terrific. So wouldn't you rather wouldn't you rather sit there and say you know we had some. We have a couple of prospects who are exciting who we would like some more <hes> because our system as soon as not very good and we have all of the guys who folks are trade for <hes> so <hes> so let's go get them. I imagine the conversation within the giants for an office and I say this without any inside information would probably go something like this. which is that if you were to put the shoe on the other foot and say hey we're very close to a playoff spot and we'd like to go on a little run here? We have a bunch of holes. What can we trade from our farm system to go get some replacement pieces that would be better than the answer becomes very quickly not a lot and so I think that that probably will end up sort of determining their strategy in a way that it'll be pretty sensible but giants fans? It'll be okay because you've won a bunch of world series very recently. <hes> you live in a beautiful replace and I'm sure that your team will be much better in terms of its set up for the future after the deadline than it is right now so that's seems pretty great. Yeah it's sort of seductive their success recently because it's not just that they've been winning but they've also been playing wealth happen outscoring everyone for six weeks or so and so that's a little more real but you'll get the players who were driving this and and how bad they were for the first two months and grit that they've made some personnel changes but just say look at the roster turn. It doesn't look great and I just the worst thing that you could do probably is to like win a few games for the next couple of weeks and be close enough that they're worried about backlash and they don't end up trading trading the bullpen parts that they have they've got a really good bullpen this year and a lot of those players are on expiring or soon to expire contracts and you could get quite a haul for them plus Bumgarner plus others and that could really kick start your rebelled velde which is probably overdue at this point and you don't change your whole regime and higher far Hans I._D.. To do nothing and keep all the case that the previous regime put in place you kind of have him because you figure he's going to get you to your next ext really good team and thus far he hasn't been very active in that area and he's probably been baking on this month being the time that is going to be really pivotal for this franchise so I will be very curious to see 'cause if they've I don't know ten in three or something in the next couple of weeks. Suddenly they're like in a wildcard spot then it becomes very difficult just from a p._R.. Perspective to actually run up the white flag even if in the long run you look at the numbers and you look at the true talent and you think this is GonNa be beneficial there a certain number of fans who were just going to look at the standings and say why are we not adding. Why are we subtracting so that's of that you sort of have to steel yourself against as a front office person yeah and I you know uh I get that I'm looking at are very nice? Fancy Russia resource step towards bankruptcy looking at the giants roster resource <unk> now dot com and you know a lot of older guys on this esteem. This is laid out in such a nice way so you're like am I getting excited about a team where one of the better hitters they have is twenty nineteen Pablo Sandoval who granted hitting better than I expected publishable yes but still polo sandoval you know and then you you scroll down paging you you think about the rankings of their prospects and their their highest ranked prospect is Joey <unk> at twenty one joy <unk> exciting prospect Jerry brought succeeding but that's that's the best I got on an overall basis and then you have to go down to like seventy six to get something close <hes> in the top one hundred so I think that it's the sort of thing where it has been overdue and they've sort of bought some playoff appearances says on borrowed time in maybe we should've started thinking about rebuilding earlier and so <hes> you know I think that it'll be painful for a minute and when it is that those fans should just go back and watch the world series stories tape very recent world series take. The hair hasn't changed very much right. Most of the hair is the same branding offer terrorists still greasy. I'm not saying that you have to make this like very cold in clinical decision and say like we're in contention for a playoff spot right now but if we give up on this playoff spot that we could get ourselves like to expected playoff berths rates five years or something like if you've got a shot right now well then you should probably take that shot and and maybe don't do something that's GonNa really impair you in the future but but don't give up if there's a realistic shot but the giants just don't seem that good that there isn't Realistic Melissa Shot I think their playoff odds are like two percent right now at van graphs and that's all wildcard odds and they're like five wildcard teams ahead of them and even though they're not great. It's still a lot of teams to leapfrog so yeah I I think you have to be somewhat philosophical about it and there are times when a team will seem to start the rebuild too soon but usually it's too late. I guess like the too soon that I can think of like when the braves after twenty fourteen year they decided sighted to pull the plug in start over they were still pretty good team. They finished poorly but they were really good. In two thousand thirteen they still had a lot of talent and it seemed like they just decided well. WE'RE GONNA lose hayward and so we'll get get rid hayward and we'll trade all these other guys and granted the braves are good again so kind of worked but I don't know was there more in that roster that they could have squeezed out of it before they decided to start over but but usually it's the opposite usually it's let's give it one more run with these guys and then suddenly they're not worth that much and when you do get around to trading them you don't get very much backer. They leave via free agency and that sort of the boat that the giants are in our or would be if they they don't do anything so when would have to think that they probably still will I don't I don't think that the only two MOATS team can operate in our full tear down sort of rebuild and then being the dodgers right. It's not like the only option those are the only options available to you and I do think that there are teams that successfully sort of understand what their window is and maybe pushing a little bit early because they're over achieving or or what have you but I think that the giants just don't fall into that camp and if you're if you're the giants and what you want to do is say look. We're not interested in a hard rebuild. We want to continue to contend for a long time. That's a strategy decision that you make in the off season when you could have bend someone who's benefiting those like GonNa sign free agents before February for instance right like you have they had that option available to them and they decided not to really do that so I think that you can operate in a mode that is not just a world series series or bust but you probably don't make that decision on July sixteenth with a roster that looks like this so yeah right well. Contenders can pick up Edwin Jackson if they want that went Jackson because he was designated for Sinement by Bluejays and I wonder whether this is finally going to beat the end of the line for Jackson because he did not pitch well with the Pooja she did not make a strong argument in favor of continued employment at the major league level he hitched in eight Games five starts twenty eight and a third innings eleven point two twelve R._A.. Just barely a sub nine V things did not go well one hand. I'm kind happy that there's a chance that he could catch on with another team and and add a fifteenth notch to his belt. I guess I mean even if he were to be picked up by another team. It's basically like even odds at this point that it would even be a new team because has he played for almost half of them but I just don't know I mean I'm sure he could get a minor league deal somewhere if he wanted to but might be tough at thirty five and coming off of that performance to add another team to his record well in the bad news for him is that several of the teams that would make sense from adding on additional team to the to the list the the bad ones are teams. He has already played for in some capacity right so he you know going to Miami doesn't do anything for him being an Oriole. We shouldn't subject Jackson to that again. That just feels mean you know. Detroit is off the table. Obviously he just got let go by Toronto the White Sox or off the table you know and like then you have good teams right so the rays are not going to be interested in him in. He's already played for them. Let's see he could go to the reds but I don't think the reds are going to concede quite like that because they should be much better than their record suggests so they might end up being like religion room. Legitimate fires have had good pitching yeah right yeah. They have no need there. Don't go to Colorado Edwin. That seems like a very without idea. You've already been a mariner right. No he had oh he should. He should be a mariner. We've solved the problem yeah. He'd fit really well. He's yeah it's almost incomprehensible that he hasn't been a mariner do minor league time with them or does he just feel like he was a F- Lordy yeah. No I guess he never I guess he never did so. That's that's the answer box off yeah. That's what it is. We gotTA Call Jerry. I gotta idea for you. Sir <music> thoughts on Uniform Advertising Patches Jerseys which seems to be coming in the next few years I I will. I don't love it. I don't know that fighting it is going to do. Much good for the international series that they've done this year they've had decals on the batting helmets and I find it terrible and quite distracting. I just there are very rarely there so few shots when you're aww when you're watching a game on television they're so few moments where the camera is not already on an ad and so. I just don't think it's necessary but I'm basically asking people to make less money so that seems like you know my started. Preference is probably not the day here. I wish it would just I'm resigned to it just because as you said you're seeing ads everywhere all the time so what's one more way to see Annette is also also another way to think about it. I guess it could be like the breaking point like this is the one thing that doesn't have ads so it's even worse that this will have ads or you could just think wealth their ads everywhere already so why even draw distinction why make a fuss about one more place to have her purchasing power solicited but see. I do think that it's I mean. I don't think that I'm actually like arguing against you here because I don't think you disagree. I think it is important different. In this respect which is that the uniform perform is supposed to signal its representative of something of what you're supposed to be proud right. It is already an ad. It is an ad for the team. It's the sort of ad that we have come to grow comfortable with because you know it's more akin to a flag than a billboard right like you know when the when the mariners play out of town there Jersey so Seattle on it right the representing thing that feels very different than like representing Coca Coca Cola. I don't have any particular allegiance to Coca Cola but I do feel a sense of place in pride in Seattle and this is true for everything but I do think that it's sort of importantly different but I don't think that that will end up being persuasive either so I'm bummed about it. I don't know I think there are probably like soccer. KITS HAVE ADS on them but they look bad Philip that I'm so used to seeing them. You know like the Vodafone ads or whatever that I almost don't even notice it's almost like it's part of the uniform to me because I don't watch that much but it's also that I guess a I'm not really life that much of a uniform purist or stickler at the Guy Care a little less about uniform appearance than a lot of baseball fans do and and also it's just that I accept the inevitability of this happening. I mean it's already happened happened basketball right. It's just going to happen. I guess the the Players Association in theory could reject this and I think the important thing obviously is that if this does happen that everyone gets to share in profits if the players are going to be walking walking billboards than they should make sure that they're getting a cut of that revenue and ensure that they will so unless they really put their feet down and say we don't want to do this. I would assume that it's almost certainly going to happen in the next few years and so I'm not going to invest much emotional energy in opposing it because I know that I'll just be frustrated at the end anyway so that's part of it. I've already conceded and surrendered but I guess I'm just so deluged by ADS. You know if you're watching watching a broadcast and listening to the Yankees broadcasts here. I grew up with everything that possibly happens in the game is sponsored by someone like this number out in the game is sponsored by the advertiser that has some very tenuous Chris Connection to that number or you know. It's just like on the Chiron or it's on the outfield walls or on the scoreboard whatever it's everywhere so I don't care that much but I think that is a that is a meaningful distinction that you make that these are already the ads and ads that have some civic pride attached to them because it's representing a city to a certain extent. I think that it'll be interesting. It's interesting that you you referenced the Yankees in particular you know having lived in that media market. I know what you mean. They're not incentives if they are immune from this billick. How do the Yankees Talk About having our Chrysler ad on pinstripes like how are they gonNA talk about it? How are they going to try to publicly square square that financial decision with the I think it is appropriate to call it fussiness with which and <hes> or reverence that's probably a nicer way of talking about it than Fussy the reverence they have for the pinstripes? I think that if is they're gonNA put a Chrysler out on a Yankee uniform. Then guys get to have beards. I think that's a fair trade. Yeah Yeah it is. What are we dealing? That's the thing that Finns should like celebrate like we're not GONNA get anything out of this. The owners will get something. The players should get something. We're not GONNA get like our ticket. Prices lowered or something because their ads on the jerseys just means that we're GONNA see more ads so I I wouldn't expect anyone to U._p.. Happy about this. It's just I guess resigned because this is the world we live and where do you Stu ads everywhere and there won't be an Adblocker for baseball broadcasts. I guess where you could just in real time filter out all all the ads that you see on Jersey so you'll actually have to see these things and then in time you won't even notice them which I guess is insidious in a in a way because you're just not even noticing that you are being pitched on some product product and I I think a lot of us think that if we're not actively paying attention to an ad were not being influenced by it but I'm sure that's not true. I'm sure the whole principle of advertising is that subconsciously we are being influenced otherwise erased advertising wouldn't work very well so yeah I think it's not something that will be happy about and they should be happy about it but it's also something that I doubt we can avoid at this point and in the grand scheme of things it still baseball so it won't ruin anything for me. It's like this podcast doesn't have ads and I think it's a nice things that we don't have ads in that. Our listeners support us on Patriot so that we don't have to but virtually every other podcast that was in two does have ads and I still like a lot of those podcasts if this podcast had ads I hope people would still enjoy it. Don't worry we are planning to add ads but you know what I'm saying and I guess it's sort of remarkable that it hasn't happened already but it's true too. I just I don't know like I like those Lake Lake. It's GonNa look so weird on the throwbacks to which are the best uniforms. Maybe we can be exempt throwback because they didn't have had when they were actually worn eight right yeah. I don't you know if you put a aroma in ad on a throwback diamondbacks Jersey. I'M GONNA riot right all right well. That'll be coming. I'm sure we'll have more opportunities to talk about that. So we should answer some emails <music>. I will start with one from Tim. Who says how much of Mike Trout's popularity among hardcore baseball fans is that he is not always on the biggest stage? Don't the people who are constantly on the biggest stage eventually find themselves fairly early or not hated by the opposition. If Meg as a mariners fan constantly had to see make trout making the playoffs over her team wouldn't that diminish her enjoyment of his accomplishments. No the answer's no I mean I guess like it might diminish the enjoyment that like <hes> twenty thirteen meg had of Mike Trout but first of all twenty nineteen magazine Mariners the mariners so that's part of it but I mean perhaps I think that it is difficult for any person to sort of maintain sustained favor in in public although people who are sort of even keeled and boring as personalities and I think I continue to think that might try to secretly very interesting like I think that he is probably a really good pal great. He's like a good friend. He seems to just like have specific interests that he is very passionate schnitt about so. I think the baseball nerds can relate to that right. It's like you know he probably goes to parties and talks about the weather and his friends were like Oh. My God came on with the weather we talk about my trump's war at the okay we talk about my <unk>. MIC drop talks about the weather and so I don't know I think that the reason that we like him so much as <unk> but if he if he revealed himself to be say a controversial a personality whether he was on a bare platform or not. I think that that would certainly complicate the I have the worst Mike Trout hypothetical own but like Imagine Mike Trout with Trevor bowers personality that would be the worst thing to happen in baseball that would be the worst thing baseball ever that would be devastating. I think baseball would be over. Yeah I guess they're ways in which my truck could be more entertaining but he so wholesome and you really can respect him and the whole thing about whether athletes should be role models. Maybe that is unfair to a certain extent that he really is one. I think at least based on what we know about him thus far there's just no knock against trump as a player or a person and I think that's really nice the fact that he does not send offensive tweets that he just sends like Emoji of airplanes or whatever weird spaces before for his exclamation marks that's great insight endearing and it's a little bit vanilla at times but he has made vanilla into almost like a brand at this point and I think that's nice yeah. I think that there are a lot of ways to have an endearing personality and they're certainly personalities in baseball that are more <hes> sort of effervescent that are I think similarly endearing but I think this is a type of endearing personality the sort of like Ernest guy who like the fact that he's not a monster and I don't mean that in any particular way apart from just being arrogant is spectacular like the fact that he is not just the worst I mean I've heard he is not a good interview because he's not particularly loquacious but like in terms of leisure doesn't come off as just like a pompous jackass. If anyone is entitled to be kind of a jerk about his own performance it would be it would be my trout but he's just like steady Eddie you so i. I don't think I don't know I don't want to test this theory too much but I don't know that he's ruined -able right yeah and I guess maybe there's a way in which he could get overexposed if we were seeing him every every single off season but I don't really think like if he were derrick jeeter or something I guess Dirk teachers an example of a great player who probably was more hated or people were just sorta sick at their teeter because he was always in the playoffs and there is the mythos boasts about Derrick jeeter but I think that was partly because Dirk Koetter became overrated. I mean he was legitimately a hall of fame player but because he was pumped up so much because he was discussed as this legendary figure I think that made people more likely to point out his flaws and say well yeah he's good but he's actually a really bad fielder anwr he's costing his team and so I think that can't really happen to my trout at least now because he's amazing second. He's the best and you can't really overrate him because he's the panthers forbid to this point in his career so I don't think so I think if we saw him on a national stage we would be happy that he were getting that exposure now. Maybe we feel a little more eager to promote him ourselves because we feel like he is not getting that exposure so if he were just the household name if he were on the tip of everyone's tongue if we were seeing him every October first shining in these big moments and we didn't have to convince anyone that Mike Trout is as great as he is then yeah. Maybe we would talk about him quite so much because it would just be common knowledge we would be preaching to the choir whereas says I think there's maybe less so now than there used to be but a little less awareness of Mike Trout's incredible play than there should be just because he doesn't get the hype that the best player ever should get back so oh that's part of it. I think we're trying to balance the scales a little bit by talking about him as much as we do and we just really enjoy marveling at the stats and we've talked on the show before about how he and Winterberg replacement have almost this symbiotic attock relationship where they kind of got big at the same time and trout enables us to appreciate what war can do for us and war enables us to appreciate what might trout can do for his teams and so that has has been a very happy marriage between those two and has enabled us to illustrate his greatness in a way that would be difficult otherwise because his traditional sets are incredible too but they don't make the case quite as convincingly as word us for instance rather not as it doesn't grab you in quite the same way although I think you're right that you know even even traditional lists looking at Mike Trout's batting line would say like Oh. This is great like he's just hitting above three hundred sixty six right like this is a phenomenal player. I don't think that there's anything there that would be difficult but I think that because he is so good everything that having a comprehensive hintsa stat that articulates value in that way is it is particularly compelling when you're trying to talk about why he is so good so he's he's leading baseball in W or super close again ship and I think part of it may be also is that when he was introduced to us it was kind of an US versus them Yang that he became the Avatar of the Sabermetrics camp at a time when they're still instill was sort of a wall between those worlds. I don't think there is so much in two thousand nineteen but in twenty twelve there still was and there was that natural foil for trout in Miguel Cabrera who was also great but was not as well rounded player as trout and so advanced stats illuminated how great Mike Trout was in a way that the traditional stats didn't and Kapoor was winning the triple crown and he was winning those m._v._p.. Awards and at that time we were still kind of on the outside saying no he's actually better. He's the most valuable and so I think maybe we came to identify with him. In a way that we wouldn't have because we were making an argument about how great he was so that's probably part of it and it's probably past time to think about things that way. Although he has missed out on subsequent awards that he probably deserved to win because you know didn't make the playoffs etc.. I guess that could conceivably Publi happened again this year. Although I don't know he's he's so far out in front of any American League player at this point that even if the angels vis the playoffs again. It's hard to imagine anyone else winning that award but I think that's that's part of it is that he he was part of that us. Versus them mentality before that broke down completely well and that you could have a guy who you know sort of famously just by where he was from and and literally what the weather was doing that year was sort of you know clearly was under drafted relative to what we would come to expect of him but also maybe even relative to what would have happened if it had just been a different weather year in the northeast but has not coupled that with like he you know he he is. Not Tom Brady still talking about what went on in his draft year right like my travel and talk about stuff. He's just like I'm the best player in baseball so it is a very it is a story that I think dovetails nicely. Isley with like you said the way that sabre metrically inclined writers and fans thought about baseball but it hasn't seemed to come with a chip on his shoulder about being aware he was taking grant <unk> relgious conditions for those guys are different so before anyone gets mad. I know where Tom Brady was drafted but you know it just he's just like I'm just going to play baseball and be amazing out. It's great here. I am. What's the weather yeah yeah? Did you see the Promo that M._l._b.. Released earlier this month. It's like Mike Trout. I'm exactly who I've always been. At least. That's the title on Youtube it's like a one minute long thing where he's just kind of addressing his reputation and saying like I'm the same guy I've always been and I still so call my parents before every game and a still make time for the things that I think are important than it shows them like signing autographs and he's basically like saying I'm humble down to earth and I appreciate that M._l._b.. Is trying to promote made trophy CASSISA could face for the game and people complain all the time about M._l._b.. Not doing a good job of that. Although I think that's largely unfair but there's a point in this ad where he says like some say I'm the best ever to play the game and it's just weird to hear him say that himself like even though he's that saying I am he saying some say which is certainly the case. I just said it like two minutes ago but it's weird to hear him even acknowledged that because <hes> I'm used to him not promoting himself at all or not like claiming that he is the best or anything. I've never heard him say anything to the effect like I have no idea if he has any awareness of the fact that he has like the most war ever ever through each twenty-seven or whatever like I've never heard him acknowledged that or make mention of it so it's clearly this is just like a script that someone said hey read this and read it but it's it's almost strange to hear him even say that some are saying that because I'm so accustomed to him not saying that sort of thing about himself yeah that I like that they should just have everyone else in baseball talking about drought to have a promo of him like basically saying I'm I'm Mr Tillich. Put My head down and work and I'm not trying to draw attention to myself like I think that is a good image to have. It sounds boring but like when you then do a promo. That's like saying that you're that guy I it almost like defeats the purpose of being that guy if you're if you're the guy who's going to brag about being the guy who's not drawing attention to himself then you are dragging yourself even though obviously like m._l._b.. Asked him to do us but still it's kind of weird the Aurigny all right question from Oliver. I'm currently sitting at an Akron Rubber Duck's game in the rain and something made my mind trail off for each game the home team Akron tables one of the away players as the strikeout player of the game. They announced this over the loudspeakers before each of the hitters at bats. Do you think this would be more of a hindrance in distraction or more of a motivation for the hitter and or pitcher in this particular other at that the hitter proceeded to hit the second pitch online through to the left field for a single and this is something that salmon assign heard a lot during our summer in the Pacific Association because just about every team did it there where you would have like a designated strike out guy in the opposing team's lineup and if that guy struck out in that game then there would be like a discount on hotdogs or something in that game and it would be announced as the guy walked up to the plate and then everyone would be watching to see if the guy actually strike out so that they could get their discount. I <hes> I personally I would be worried about. I think it probably first of all. I think it probably does not matter at all even a little bit that that would be my my suspicion but I <hes> I guess it's motive. It might be motivating for the pitcher. I don't think it would make much difference to the hitter. I think that <hes> this is a really good time now for me to tell a totally unrelated story about watching the Atlantic League all-star Game Sorry Watch the Atlantic League all-star game because I cannot myself and this I swear it's vaguely related they had they had a a troupe of guest mascots which is a a real troop and I was made aware of this by fronts and now I have to find the name of it because it it's funny in a way that I should I should actually <hes> say something about the superstars and they they take animals and they take athletes and I mash them up and add this. One was Nolan Rhino I know and the announcers said and they did not show it because you know you've you are familiar with Indie ball not a lot of camera angles available when those games are broadcast at all so they could not show the the Dugout <music> but they said that Nolan Reina was pretending to urinate on the crowd from the top of one of the dugouts and they seemed very amused by this and so I can only imagine what Nolan Ryan was doing doing that successfully mimed this activity and so anyway that's not related at all to what you're saying except to say that they have some real weird and sometimes mean promos and sundry in India ball and and <hes> I bet yeah no that's true and I don't I mean I've never seen like a hitter. Give any indication that he recognized that he was <unk> out player of the game. Imagine they know I yeah I mean in some of those parks. You can't help but hear it unless you're like so in the zone that you don't know anything. That's going on around you but I would guess that at that level you're used to it. You just don't care. It's basically like heckling. It's being heckled by the opposing team's APA person not a fan but that's the same sort of thing so I mean if it were me and I were the strike up the game. It probably affected me. I would think I don't know there are there are ways in which I am not that sensitive live to the opinions of the public and their ways in which I am like if I'm going to the store and I'm wearing pajamas or something where pajamas to the store my wife Opie like don't you want to maybe put on some real close okay and that may be because she doesn't want to be seen with me more something he answered for me personally but but that kind of thing I'll do but on the other hand like I was just in an elevator just before we started recording and there were a couple couple other people in the elevator and I was going to the eighth floor and the rose were kind of confusing and I was like looking for eight and a confined it and I was feeling the eyes of the other people in the elevator looking at me wondering when I was going to press the button and finally I just like stabbed apted button because I was like Oh man I gotta press something off. These people are waiting for me to press the button. It turned out to be eight so it was okay. I went to the floor I wanted to but the point is like that got to me. The most low stakes low pressure under situation that I can think of and I was thinking of that so if I were a baseball player yeah I'd probably be aware of that and maybe it would be in the back of my head but I'm not a baseball player and that is one of the reasons why I have not because that sort of thing probably would weigh on me so I'd have to imagine that if this were maybe at that level you have some guys who don't have the mental makeup to ignore that sort of thing whereas by the time you get to the big leagues you probably do but I can't imagine that if we could do a study of sorts if we had this database who was the strikeout hitter in every game and we looked to see if there is any effects for more strikeouts in Games where the guy was the strike out hitter. I highly doubt we would find anything I I think that I would perhaps be predisposed to to over swinging. 'cause I would be like hey screw you. I'm GonNa hit a home run and then I'd be like Ryan struck out on three pitch so I think that that is <hes>. I think that that's definitely my possibility. I'm not saying that I would not be weak-willed. I'm saying that baseball players I would almost certainly crumble under the pressure but then again if I were facing major-league velocity or even do velocity I'd crumble under the pressure then then to promotion would have much to do with no yeah I would be the strikeout player of the game but just because I would already be strict out every time the undeclared strikeout player of the game related needed question from Charles. He says I was just thinking about the way we look at clutch and momentum that anyone who can make it to the majors probably relatively even keeled at the player on the mound but what about at lower levels if one of the main arguments against paying attention into it is that big leaguers are closer to robots than we are. Does it make sense to consider richness at lower levels. How much should college recruiters take this into a counter in drafting a REC softball team should clutch concerns still just be a tiebreaker or should it weigh much much more into the decision making <hes> Jeez? I think that <hes> I don't think that this is a great man. Do I believe the sweeter too. I believe what I'm about to save through I don't I don't think that it's much different. I think that there is a that human beings have different sort of either innate or learned abilities to handle disappointment in a way that is not personally destructive which is different than Clutch Nice but I think related to that so I think that the version of this and this is definitely a thing that gets thought about both you know when guys were still being scouted as amateurs as progressing. He likes sort of your ability to deal with the wear and tear and mental difficulty of the game but I don't think clutch. I don't think that's a I don't think that that's a real thing that would matter much differently out of lower level <hes> I don't think it would. I don't think it would keep saying that over and over again you talk for a little while and I'm going to try to think about what I actually mean. When I say I I mean there's gotTa be more variation in in players mental skills at that level I would think because we know there's more variation in physical skills and we know that if you watch it an eight ball game there might be a game where there's a hall of Famer a Future Hall of Famer in there and there's a guy who will never get outta able so there's more difference there than there would be a big league game? 'cause if you're in a big league game then everyone's got the big leagues so you've had to survive certain trials to reach that point so I would think that would also apply I mean I guess it's possible that like mental skills might be. Maybe you'd be filtered out sooner. I don't know whether like if the pressure gets to you in a way that is really debilitating. Maybe maybe that shows up in little league. Maybe it shows up in high school or College. I don't know maybe you don't even get to the point where you're a pro ball player in that gets to you but I would think I mean there must be some players at that level who are more susceptible to performing differently in pressure situations sure in a way that is harmful to them than once you get to the majors. I think that that is likely true but I guess I just would not necessarily view that as innate or stagnant so I don't know that I would over. I think it would be a data point. That would be interesting but I don't know that it would be one where I would necessarily say this is this necessarily means anything predictive about how this is going to be able to grow and adapt because you have to you have to undergo the difficulty before you know how you're going to respond to it. The place where it starts to matters like how do you respond to it the eighth time right like once you've built up some sort of understanding of not only how you experienced that in game but then the emotional sort of mental taxing that comes with it. I just don't think that that would be something. That's stagnant. I mean you you you would adopt to that stuff and learn how to cope in a way that is productive. That's just a big part of growing up as a person so I think that's what I mean when I don't think it would matter not that it doesn't matter in the moment or that it can't end up being a problem because there is some filtering process that goes on and happens on a lot of different variables some of which are performance based on some of which are personality based but it's not as if you're going to have a perfect understanding outstanding of what a guy is gonna be like as a grown person just as around baseball player when they're you know in college or enable or whatever <hes> there's GonNa be some change any you know I think it's a part of it's just just like acclimating to the stage and then people do that and they do great right. There were definitely definitely dudes. In the Futures Games who were you could tell nervous and they were overthrowing and they didn't have their bus stuff tough because you could just tell that they were nervous. Will maybe the next show case they go to. They won't be like that because he'll of gotten that stuff out of the way right. They know how to sort of focus in an adjusted in view it as another game so I it's not that it doesn't matter that it can't mant end up mattering a lot. It's just that I don't know that we necessarily know what snapshot is the one that matters until we do yeah. That's a good point. You always hear people say like the miners is where guys figure out how how to deal with failure. That's often where they encounter their first struggles because most pro bowl players were really good in amateur ball and so yet it would sort of defeat the purpose of player development if the first time someone kind of cracked under pressure or got so demoralized that it affected his performance that you just said okay here gone because the whole idea is to try to learn from that now maybe it gets to the point where you prove unable to learn from that and and eventually you do wash out so that probably does happen but I think a lot of guys would experience that first but figure out some way to get stronger because of it like I'm reading David Cohen's book that came out a few months ago the education of a pitcher and he talks in there about his first postseason start in the one thousand nine hundred ninety eight and I'll see us and he was <hes> I think of twenty five or so then and that was his first full season his first postseason appearance and he had written an ill advised column like a ghost written column in the New York media where he sort of trash talk the dodgers a few days before that start and that column got like pinned to the walls of the dodgers clubhouse clubhouse and they were all yelling at him and as soon as he was on the mound he deeply regretted having related given that ammunition to the dodgers and he was quite bad in that game he he went two innings he gave up five runs and he was done and he says that it got to him like he started dwelling on what he had Britain and regretting it and he was just very much out of the right mindset but he says on the one hand that was very costly because the mets ended up losing that series and they might have won if he had been better at went seven games so that could have been the decisive thing on the other hand he says it made him a better and stronger pitcher and pitched in two more games in that series seeds through ten more innings he gave up one run he was just fine and he learned from that he didn't write any more ghost written columns where he trash talk the other team now that's David Cohen who was a great pitcher and prides himself on being a pretty mentally tough guy and so maybe not everyone can make the adjustment from that mistake and from that failure that he did go on to have a hall of fame caliber career but that's the. The kind of thing we're talking about I think we're you wouldn't WanNa make a snap judgment and say so and so is soft or whatever and he can't be better than this because people can be better than that and the other thing is that when we talk about Clutch nece in the majors we're not saying it doesn't exist to some small extent where you're saying. It's not huge probably and it's not predictive because like even if it were real the differences are not so great that it wouldn't take like thousands of plate appearances to at least hey statistically you say whether this is real or not and by that point it doesn't really help you because that's like the whole career basically so I think that would probably also be true in the minors where you probably have even smaller samples and more factors actors that are changing and guys getting promoted and all sorts of things that would make it impossible to say that so and so was unclenched based on stats in a time line that would help you tell whether he was going to be a good future major the leaker good prospect unless one day we have like you know heartbeat monitors in games or something and you could tell that someone is like his pulses elevated because the pressure is getting to him or something like that some invasive thing that minor leaguers will probably have to deal with some day because they're not in the union that might give you some more insight into why someone is or isn't performing but just based on the outcomes. I think it would be very tough to tell yeah and you. I mean like part heard of building <unk> building real self esteem is failing and realizing you can survive that failure and do better next time do it differently were failed as the case may be so. I think that we are sometimes down on failure as a means of instruction and I don't mean that in a way that should be coney or punitive or mean-spirited but it's an important thank <unk>. You'd like you said like they're definitely due to face failure for the first time when they get to professional baseball there are guys who you know under perform in triple A. and ended up being amazing because they were bored right. They need the challenge right like this happened with Lynn door rate like their their prospects now where it's like <unk> just promote them because what are they doing. They're not being challenged there so I I don't know I think Queer down on failure yeah R T says I recently finished listening to a two part episode of Gimblett S- reply all that examined the development of data into the New York Police Department's effort to fight crime which which began with mapping pickpockets roots and ended with stop and Frisk. You've at times pondered the topic in the future you think players will try to cheat the data the way they cheat P._d.. Testing and I wasn't totally clear what he was asking so I asked him the clarify and he says in general I'm thinking of an incentive structure in which it is to the mutual benefit of player and coach to doctor the data for example if the effectiveness of a minor league coach is determined by a quota whereby coaches performance is judged by how many players increase velocity or spin rate by X. percent that coach would have incentive to cook the data. Perhaps only to blame that players inevitable regression on injury or faulty mechanics if Yonder Lonzo might serve as an example small simples increasingly get paid in a market where development isn't linear in other words in a newly disrupted market what is signal and what is noise so he is essentially suggesting that we pay attention to data input development now I just wrote about it and if it is to the players into the coach's advantage to make it look like that data is more impressive like if someone's spin rate jumped suddenly or something or his movement it was different or something he wants to know will ever get to the point where somehow they will doctor that data to make it look like the players have improved performance improved skill even if it's not I guess you know the actual outcomes because it would be difficult cultist doctor whether someone went to four her over four. How would they do it? Though is the question. How would they do it though I don't think that I don't I certainly do not think thank you would have coaches and sort of team personnel in cahoots with players? I don't think that would happen because their incentives are. Their goals are aligned to a large degree but not perfectly so I don't I think and I think it would be hard. This is like a movie though cool movie. There were just be such <unk> <unk>. I feel like there would be a very limited range of things that you could dr though right leg you couldn't I mean you could monkey around with. It seems like there would be a limited range of things that you could Dr. Were was someone watching. It couldn't say wait what yes seems wrong right right like <hes> you know you. Could I guess you could adjust exit velocity up but you can kinda tell all watching like you can tell if a ball is hard hit or not by watching it exactly how hard hit shirt maybe not like you can get a general sense of how hard a ball has been hit and you then have the outcome of that. You know that all right right so that's all seems out of out of it you could monkey with like sprint speed but all you need is a is a scout. There will stop watch time you so. That seems like it's out you can you could like adjust within a very small range like launch angle like gas but again you can look at it and see some extent. I guess you could adjust anything. Subtly I mean right. You can't say that an eighty five mph batted ball is actually one hundred ten mph batted ball ray because you can see that difference but if you were to tamper with someone stated save actually has an <unk> average of ninety six that of ninety four point five or something rate and if you were a front office person just looking at the numbers because you haven't watched every game that this guy's played in your deciding whether we want to promote this guy I call up to the next level or something maybe that makes the difference in a way that would be difficult to detect them in eventually. You'll get exposed that because you just won't be very good but you know who knows by then. Maybe you've made the majors. Maybe you have signed an extension or something based on the data. I don't know something like spin rate which is difficult to see you know I mean if you're pitches aren't moving more than and the spin rate only matters so much but if you have a high spin rate someone might look at you as someone with more potential who if we adjusted the spin axis of your pitches or something you could get more movement down the road like I could see something like that or or if you you've just like your your hardest batted ball if you changed one batted ball from like <hes> One oh five to one fifteen or something and and that would say hey this guy is capable of hitting up all that hard. That's a good sign and if you didn't actually watch the video and confirm I just think it would require a lot of people being less good at their jobs than I know people. Who have those jobs being feature? You know I think 'cause like I I yeah I know I know front office. People who their impulse their instinct when they get sort of unusual stack cast information is to go watch it and then to assume there was a calibration issue like their their instinct is skepticism and so I guess if you were I guess if you were a player who had I guess that if you were a player who was may be the on the decline you would be the best position to take advantage of this because you've already established a baseline of performance and maybe you're slipping a little bit and you can delay people realizing the slippage and they might just this attribute what's going on to some bad batted ball luck or whatever right or Lak- an outing where you got batted around a little bit <hes> as a pitcher but the velocity stoke the spin still good. I think it would be really hard for young young guys to get away with this and I don't think anyone could get away with it for very long. No that's the thing he mentioned wants to try though I don't because they getting such trouble you'd never you'd never be on a team ever again. Yeah you can figure out how to do it. You would just be done so don't don't anyone do it. If you were coaching definitely be done if player and you could still play itchy probably get another chance but I think because he mentioned the comparison into like trying to cheat P._d.. Testing I'm thinking of like you know instead of having someone pee in a cup for you to get a clean test you have some better hitter like take a swing with your swing sensor or something and suddenly you're you're swing wing speed is faster that it was although it be weird if like everything about your swing suddenly changed and yet at different like attacking goal and you know swing play in and everything but if you had someone who was like had a similar swing to you but swung harder and you just handed off your center to him and we're like Kay I need a favor like I need to get my average swing speed up a little bit and somewhat were inclined to help you out with that or use your somehow trick them. Use you switch the swing wing centers so that the best hitter on the team is using your plastic center. Whatever of in this is all pretty far fetched like that is that's more conceivable than like tampering with like track men or stat cast data that be difficult pickled do because it's all automated centralised of that gets recorded by like a stringer who's in the park so you have to have that person on your side so many people to be in on it and very bad at their jobs yeah and skits right away to the front office so like I don't know at what point and then what happens when you go on the road right to then presumably this is all harder to fact and <hes> <hes> and then you're you're baseball ops group is going to be like wow these are the weirdest home away splits we've ever seen they're gonNA start digging and then you're going to have to go into your manager Buick immutable yeah this is interesting scenario in theory? It's more plausible than it used to be because we have all these process measures now which in theory you could tamper with less obvious way than the outcomes measures like you're you're probably not gonNA just change which in the box score that difficult to do but changing some something behind the performance that might be more feasible but even so pretty difficult to do and you'd have to sustain it for a while in order to benefit from it really and I don't know that you could because you at some point like you have to demonstrate the skill in games two like if if you're not having any success and and your spin it's been rate is really high. I just it only goes so far like maybe it gives you a longer leash. Maybe it keeps you from getting cut like I could see that like if you're if you have a feeling that you're about to lose your roster spot and you could could tamper with one of your pitches so that suddenly it looks like hey he's got a a Hyde spin curve ball or something and then maybe you get another chance because someone says well if we could just get him to throw that curve more or something then maybe there's something there but again okay then what happens when they tell you to throw the curve more and your curve still bed and you're still getting knocked around so it only works for so long it only works for so long requires and we would all right about it right right so that's the thing it's like once you start putting any of this into games we would all be sitting there beyond house really weird like we're watching that guy and he should be a lot better and we don't have that data the miners to be fair. That's true in the minors you could you could you could get away with it for longer may-maybe but once you get called up you're you're really toast right because you know somebody I I mean there are a lot there are plenty of articles that we run a finger after it's like it's so isn't it so funny that like the these are the results in these are the underlying but after a while people like so hey keep an eye on this and we're we're here to tell you that sums up. Something has gone terribly wrong right. It's like Seth Lugo for instance. He was like the stat cast hero for his high spin curve ball and it was kind of perplexing because he wasn't getting really great results and now he is though like now he's effective and good and has thrown his curveball at least a little bit more than he used to and his sorta changes pitch election anyway. The point is like ultimately he backed up what the people were saying and now he's striking like twelve guys per nine and France to strike out like six guys for nine so I think that gave him it made him much more of an object of interest. I think that he would have been otherwise because we knew that thing about him and that thing augured well for his future which as it turns out has proven to be pretty pressured but if you just have that high speed curve ball and you never get good than I don't know I guess you can you can hang on for a little longer here but first of all you have to be pretty good to get to the pick leaks and to stay there and even at lower levels. It's only GonNa get you so many chances but it wouldn't be like the most shocking thing like in a world where we saw hacking one team hacking like it's not the most inconsiderable thing that this could happen cameras on phones that are banned in the United States now and I mean I'm not saying that no one would try. I'm just saying I don't think that that you could have you couldn't have sustained. I don't think that you could sustain success in your subterfuge for very long right before it got 'em once you reach the major league level. You're you're definitely toast and I think I think that you know there are plenty of you know there are plenty of pieces of technology that we have to measure players that are more sophisticated than a radar goner. Stop Watch but even at the minor league level where these guys are being watched and scrutinized so show extensively both from team personnel other teams personnel on then prospect people. I think that it would be tricky. They're even even with you know analysts who are just doing public side writing on having access to track mandate at that level or whatever I just don't think you could do it for very long would make a good true crime podcast. Yes yes it would all right question from Jimmy. I got a kick out of this quote from Dallas Kaikal in the Gamer written in the athletic athletic by David O'Brien after the July second loss of the braves to the Phillies kyko allowed the deciding to runs on a Jay Bruce Double in a to nothing loss here was his quote quote. I mean outside of a So-so slider Bruce. which wasn't that bad of a pitch? It was just the wrong pitch wrong location at the wrong time. He was swinging. I knew he was I was trying to bait him off the plate and he just got enough to get double down the line and Jimmy continues. I just thought the assessment was funny that the pitch was so so when it was. By his reckoning the wrong pitch wrong location wrong time not to take away from Bruce who got a nice at down the line but doesn't that mean it was the worst possible pitch wrong pitch to throw not sequence twelve and mislocated yeah that that's good assessment. Yeah there there is I. I see what say in here I think I have a different interpretation. I I think Kyko is saying that he saying the plan was good because he knew bruce swinging and he was trying to get him to swing at a ball which is a good plan that that can't be sharply and swing it yeah so part. One is good yeah so i. I don't think he's saying that that the idea was is bad and then I watched the pitch. The pitch was in the strike zone so he he didn't do a good job of executing because it it wasn't he was trying to get him to swing it. At a pitch outside. The zone in it ended up being inside the zone and Bruce got enough of it to to get a double but as I said via email in response to this I think he's saying that in most situations this pitch would have worked out okay. It's like it's like when we say that someone was in the wrong place at the wrong time right. We're not saying saying that they are to blame necessarily for being in that place at that time we're just saying that they were the victim of circumstances like they they just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and came back to bite them but nothing they did was necessarily blameworthy whereas I think in this situation I think Kaikal sort of saying the same thing like the pitch itself wasn't horrible like it wasn't a hangar it was kind of low and away and kind of close to the corner which in most cases would would be fine and wouldn't normally be pulled for a double and so I think he saying that in this case it was the wrong pitch at the wrong time because it just so happened that Jay Bruce hit a double and you know whether it's a credit to Bruce for putting a swing on it or just it happened to be the one time when a pretty decent pitch was hit. You know maybe it was luck. Maybe it was skill whatever it was but Kaikal wasn't totally blowing it by throwing a a total meatball it was just kind of a victim of a good hitter or a cruel universe and things transpired in a way that would typically have transpired yeah. I think that we tend to not be quite quite as generous with our understanding of who is responsible for what any given played parents as we may be could be like you know sometimes guys just get like a just get a lucky lucky little swing on something. I watched how remember what game this was still have very severe time dilation from Cleveland. It's been weeks later but now we're into trade value so I'm not GonNa know what day it is until September but anyway Ronald Kunia just had a little excuse me Swang a singled and he looked surprised to be on first base and you're like what are you gonNa do like. Sometimes it just happens. It's like it's no one's you're not bad at your job sometimes other everyone's good at their job. Sometimes everyone is good at their job and they're just a little bit better. They're a little luckier right yeah so it was so it he probably could have gotten it farther outside but it wasn't terrible and so he was <hes> it was run run pitch in the wrong place at the wrong time but at another time it might a bit okay. I think that was the idea njeighbors singled he doubled while see I mean now. It's less fun but I I still his line is is more sensical now and it bums me out aright last one from Maximilian he says can you see a world in which Louis Ronchi fo- doesn't make this tag and he links us to the play which I will link you all to this is <hes> what Stephen Piscotty a sliding into second base this was a game I think on June thirtieth and he slid into second heaves sprained his knee sliding into the bag and ren he foe is as soon as he realizes that that piscotty is off the back because he he sort of like over slid the bag and then he was just lying there cradling his head in his hands obviously in pain and unable to move back to the bag and as soon as ren he realized this he very quickly scrambled over and applied the tag to Scotty and got the out and sew Maximilian says I was surprised I didn't hear any grumbling that this tag was unsporting or see any hesitation on remedy. He does part that he was tagging out an an injured player who had beaten him to the base. I've seen soccer matches where a team will kick the ball out of bounds to stop play when one of their players is hurt and then after the ball is put back in play the opposing team will return it to the team with the injured player. I think I have also seen where the opposing team will even kick it out themselves so he's asking if it's possible to envision a world where when he focused like out of sympathy for Scotties pain here does not apply the tech. I don't think so first first of all before we get to that we take a moment to note how Andrew Jackson Simmons is still would just imagining yes because he is wide. This tag happened and I don't say that as a knock on him and I I don't think the ranking <unk> behaved in a way that is bad here for you who clearly thought that he had already applied the tag and that body was just out a you. Can you can tell when you watch the clip that he you know he's showing the ball to the second base umpire like Hey I got him and Simmons Women's because he is a wizard is like hey just make sure though yeah hey why don't you just go make sure and points to him and says hey go apply the tag before he can put his foot back on the base. So that's one thing we should all just appreciate Anderson Eielson Simmons more than we do. I don't think that this is especially on sporting you know after the plays concluded they both go over there and sort of check on the Scottie to see if he's okay and you know it wasn't like like you like socked him in the jar or anything like stepped on. I mean like I can imagine things that are sort of outside. The normal course of play that would result in in the baseball Internet sitting up and saying okay. That's not the way that we want to be on the field but this is first of all the way to conclude play on the field right to get a break in action. Biscardi was clearly going to have to be helped off the field or you know was in some serious amount of pain anyhow and was not moving at. I don't know I don't think that I don't think that this is a bad. I don't think this is bad. I think gives a little forceful with his tag but I don't think he meant to be in a way that was like harmful or anything with that knee wrestling he does get a little close Mielke but but <hes> he you know I think it's okay. Do we have an expectation that that you're going to basically concede a base runner simply because the guys injured I don't I don't think so yeah Dale. Sam answered this via email and since he's way this week I will read his response. He said I've been thinking about this in haven't come to a firm conclusion but I think there's something about the flow of each sport that makes the concept of stopping for opponent a little different with soccer. There's no stoppage between plays you just run nonstop very fluid so to take care of a player somebody a teammate or an opponent actually has to end the play so that's what they do kick it out of bounds but in baseball the play the end when everybody is on a base or else out so I'll sort of cruel to take advantage of the players injury that way it is from a pacesetting standpoint the equivalent of kicking a ball out of bounds you and the play then we can turn our attention to the patient. This is of course a speculative explanation. I don't know what the cultures of football and basketball are around hurt players but for this theory to hold football would be more like baseball and basketball would be more like but not entirely like sort of in the middle soccer and Maximilian responded to that and I said I think it probably holds in cycling or at least in the Tour de France fifteen years ago when we all watched cycling readers do not seek to gain time when they're writers are involved in a crash fluid contest that does not stop until the end onto the stage competitors wait for one another or at least do not take advantage of their opponents injury or misfortune in an even more extreme example from another sport racing when a race car was involved in gnarly crash in the final race in the movie cars. A junior race car abandoned his hopes of winning a title to help his veteran opponent crossed the finish line so I guess that's a good distinction that that makes sense to me. I think it's just a very different. I think that if there were a way to sort sort of press ones advantage in the moment we might think about it a little differently. Although I don't know that the moral calculus necessarily changes considered a lot of ways to demonstrate care for another person that don't require you in in this case like allowing a base runner even if you know it's clear that it would have been pinch-runner at some point here but he's not pressing an advantage. This is normal course of play but I think Sam's answer where it's this is how you how you stop the action on the field so that you can you can actually have medical personnel. Come out and do what they need to. I think is a good one. That's an important distinction to draw here but I think it's okay. I mostly just off Hamilton cements guys okay thankfully like He. He's back. I think he's back today. In fact yeah like maybe recently like at first when he just he seems to apply the tag and then he immediately runs off the field but I think he just didn't realize that Scotty was hurt because then he does see see that he's lying there writing and he stops around half the field and he comes back and he actually motions for the trainer to come out and he's like clearly concern so I would think it seems callous. If player you know if he had just run off the field held without a second glance and and he knew the Scotty was heard and demonstrate any concern than like yeah like there are times when a when a pitcher will hit a batter and it's not intentional and he'll show a lot of remorse and concern especially if the battery seems to be seriously hurt there are other times when the pitcher will not really react at all to hitting a better and I guess it's maybe partly like a macho thing or like. I'M NOT GONNA a show that I can crack here like I own the mound and it's my batter's box and I'll throw the pitch wherever I want to and that's something that to me I guess sort of like reflects poorly on that player may not know what's going on inside and whether there's a lot of internal turmoil but if he doesn't seem to show any concern and he's just like trying to be the intimidator or the head hunter or whatever then I would think that that looks not great for him but like to see players you know that yeah sure get the out apply the tag but then show some level of sympathy for another human being yeah. I think you can accomplish both things and doing the one does it make you you sort of insensitive in the other case you know I think it's probably like everything there's a bit of. It's going to depend case by case but you know <hes> I don't know when when Kyle seager hit a line drive the hit Matt Shoemaker on the head he still took first base and then looked like he wanted to throw up while he was standing there but I think people understand that you're gonNA. You're GonNa do the baseball thing because there's a pause. It's going to naturally come right after that and so it's it's fine to kind of conclude the play and then take the time to do you need to sort of show your sympathy. That's the best part of all star week at this idea is just let's like all these guys are like we have the weirdest job on the planet. Maybe not the weirdest arrests but one of the weirdest definitely ranks and I'll just be pals because who else is GonNa understand what we're doing by the way last thing I just happened to see this while we were talking but the Trenton Thunder Bat Dog Rookie Oh yeah Dan he made a visit to Yankee Stadium and he was not allowed to be the bat dog in the game because evidently M._l._B. rules prohibit that dogs so rookie just had to watch the game from the sidelines and take a picture with his pal Aaron Aaron judge who I just got to be friends with him in Trenton. This seems like something we need to change or why. Why can't we have bickering dogs? That would make everyone's life better. Did someone see Airbud. GET NERVOUS I've been I know there's occasionally occasionally a time when a fat dog gets a little over zealous and maybe it's like a rookie bet doug this one is named rookie but he's not a rookie but sometimes you see them like go chasing after ball or something but that's just precious and wonderful and we love when that happens so maybe rob Benfrid wouldn't like it because the pace of play but I would want that dogs in all possible places every place yeah. I'd be curious. I wonder whether they're park effects for bat dogs. I mean I wonder like if you put rookie in any any ballpark does his training transfer over so that if he's trained to be a bad dog in Trenton if you put him in Yankee Stadium with the bright lights and the big crowds and a bit of a different layout could he just seamlessly adapt his bat dog doc duties or would he wilt under the pressure the way that we were just talking about minor leaguers. Maybe at Clutch score for rookie yeah but please bring on big-league bet dogs at I don't want to put any bat. People out of jobs sure no but bet dogs are just better. I think <hes> well yeah. What other bat animals could we have? I don't know you could have. I guess you couldn't have like a bat cat. Bet Cut Class. That's our cats aren't super trainable and they probably would struggle to get the bat to the Guy Yeah. He's he's a certain size and strength that raccoons liability and records we could have that miniature ponies sure yeah okay. I could see that happening. People do yoga with goats and inside. I still have yet to get an explanation of why I don't. I don't understand I don't don't tell us we don't want to know we're not torsten two that. We're not asking the question we just don't understand it and we're contented to be ignorant so that's how we're asking how I'm going to think of only one more thing. I have to edit today so I can think about that. Animal is let's find the dogs are just Berkeley suited to keep the bet carrier as they are in many other ways to be a pet ended assistant to humans but but yeah please we should break the bedbug barrier see see why we can't have this man if Bill Becker around. I'm surprised he never did this. Maybe he did. I don't know maybe there's a rule against it because he tried it but it just seems like such a missed opportunity I I agree and every team could have a different kind of dog. There could be all kinds of different dogs would be so great. You don't want them all to be the same cause. Give us all the good dogs always golden retrievers fever seconds. They have to do a lot of retrieving they do and I think. retrievers are pretty easily trainable but you could have all cut. We should have a French bulldog that okay. Let's just the contemplating thing to get. Thank you nice there. Okay just Ben here now. I thought we would end there but I realized that we hadn't done a step last and just after after Megan I finished recording. We got a stat bastable question from Jimmy and I really liked this question so I wanNA stick it in here so Jesse take it away sir. <music> all right. Jimmy says a couple of weeks back. Stephen Strasburg pitched an immaculate inning. I really enjoy when that happens because it's just about as neat and tidy as as you can beat do your job as a pitcher nine pitches nine strikes three down well. My friend just reminded me that Strasbourg also has a three pitch inning in his career September twenty ninth twenty seventeen. Maybe it should be called an economical inning a parsimonious inning inefficient efficient inning doesn't work because that's common parlance all the time when the pitcher gets three outs on relatively few pitches like economical inning that works. Sometimes you hear that about non three pitch innings too so Jimmy wants to know how many pitchers have pitched both in immaculate and an economical inning in their career and he linked me to a page on the site baseball ALMANAC that has a list of all the three Pitch Innings Baseball ALMANAC also has a list of the Immaculate Innings and these are of course the economical innings end Mac Hewlett innings that have been recorded. We only have pitch counts going back to nineteen eighty eight but the site also includes many earlier examples that were just mentioned in news reports game stories various other sources and have been collected by the site in its readers so I took the list of guys with the Mecca winding said in the list of guys with economical innings I put them both in spreadsheets cleaned him up a little. I removed the duplicates for the guys who have done one or the other multiple times and that left me with ninety individual pitchers who have pitched immaculate innings. That's the nine pitch version and one hundred sixty the two individual pitchers who have pitched economical innings the three pitch version which may be make sense. It's gotten a little easier to get the immaculate inning overtime just because there are many more whiffs these days than there used to be. They used to be a lot more contact than Boston play and the immaculate doing is probably a bit more dependent on skill with the economical inning. You're kind of dependent on the batter helping you out and swinging at a pitch and putting in play which is somewhat out of the pitcher's control so when we do some cross-referencing here with the indispensable index match catch function in Excel we get ten pitchers ten guys in known baseball history have thrown both economical and inefficient and inked Jimmy already mentioned Strasberg's so they're nine others most of them from recent years as you would expect because we have the pitch counts the the exception is Joe Esker who pitched in the nineteen tens and twenties but evidently news accounts noted that he did both of these things. We've got Joe esker Pete Harnisch Andy Ashby Jimmy Key Rick helling Mike Mussina B._J.. Ryan Randy Johnson and Letroy Hopkins. That's an interesting mix of guys. You've got a couple hall of famers in Johnson Messina. You've got some more mediocre pitchers but all pitchers who were fairly long lasting and good at some point in their careers so they pitched a lot of innings for the most part. Give them more shots at recording the immaculate and economical inning and obviously a bunch of guys who missed bats in that group but it's a fun list because really these two achievements are kind of in conflict the Pitcher who gets the immaculate inning that someone who is missing bats who is getting lots of whiffs and is probably throwing more pitches that takes more pitches on average to get a strikeout than it does to get an out on a ball in play although obviously not if you're getting all your strikeouts on three pitches but the immaculate ending favors the Randy Johnson's the Stephen Strasburg B._J.. Ryan's guys who got strikeouts whereas the economical inning favors guys who pitched to contact and yet ten pitchers in the annals of the game obviously recorded history there probably others but we'll never know about them but of all the thousands thousands of pitchers who have pitched these are the ten that we know of very exclusive group and it's getting easier to record the immaculate inning but harder I would guess to record the economical inning so I really like this club the perfect dinning club thanks for the question Jimmy so I wish I could end this episode episode as planned on the light-hearted notes of bat dogs and stat blasts but the online baseball community got some sad news on Tuesday and I wanNa tell you about the man that I and many others are morning. This is sort of a strange in solitary job a good job but an an unusual one and people like me and Sam and Meg who are lucky enough to do this thing full-time we work from home and whatever co workers we have are typically people we interact with via slacker G. Chat or twitter. Maybe the occasional phone call of course sometimes sometimes we meet up at conferences or the event but it can be kind of a lonely life for part of the day you know my wife's at work. I'm here with my dog typing away. That's one of the reasons I valued this podcast community so much emails from listeners in the facebook group and the constants instance in my life from a professional perspective are people I just g chat with throughout the day and there are people I've been talking to in this community people I worked with at B._P.. And elsewhere on a daily or near daily basis now for about a decade and a few of them I I haven't met most of them. I've at least talked to but you develop strong bonds with these people whom you've never actually seen in person because you talk to them constantly and they're part of this world and your problems are often the same problems they're facing and vice versa and one of those constants in in my life for the last decade or so and someone who has been as helpful to me in my professional life as almost anyone is rob McEwen who was the director of operations for Baseball Prospectus and that title director of operations sounds like it can mean almost anything and rubs case it did hit meant almost anything in everything he was involved in every aspect of baseball prospectus and whether you know it or not he probably had an impact on your life. If you've been consuming any Internet baseball content of sabermetrics tricks slant over the last ten years rob had a bit of a baseball background he worked for stats INC for a few years in the nineties but then he went to other Internet and tech companies until he wound up at a site called Baseball daily digest which was run by Johann Rahi and Joe later became the C._E._o.. And President of Baseball Prospectus and rob kind of came over with him so he sort of entered B._p.'s orbit in late two thousand eight which was also when I entered P._p.'s orbit he started writing there occasionally in the spring of two thousand nine and and by two thousand ten he was not on the writing some fantasy stuff for the site but he was doing a lot of behind the scenes work to and by two thousand eleven he had taken over most of the websites operations and a couple years later Colin wires left to join the Astros and rob took over-quota and most of the stat generation for the site and he was just the go-to Guy all the time that I was at B._P.. And ever since he was the one who knew where everything was because B._p.'s back into assertive a tangle of Byzantine databases and artifacts artifacts of the ten years of Keith Wilner and Clay Davenport and Colin and rob was the only one who knew where everything was and if the site went down you tell robin he'd know exactly what to kick to get it started again. If as stat looked wonky you tell rob he'd be able to dive into the code and figure out what was wrong. He was involved in building so many of the tools that are available at baseball prospectus various leaderboards and utilities and the team tracker in the scoresheet draft aid the list goes on and on and RAPP was not only the one who would put out fires but he was endlessly helpful to anyone in everyone in probably particularly me rob was a sequel wizard he could query a database like no one I've ever known and I'm somewhat notorious at baseball perspectives for sending letters stat requests as I've mentioned many times I'm an English Major. I didn't enter this line of work with any great background in math or computer science or programming and so I have had to rely on the kindness of others over the years to help answer the questions that I post and rob has been the one answering those questions more than anyone else part of my value as a writer as a researcher has been figuring out the right questions to ask and that's nice but it doesn't go a long way without being able to take up the answers and sometimes that's beyond my abilities but it was almost never beyond Rob's right up until last month in fact I wrote about Mike Trout and the angels and how the angels of hovered around five hundred over the past few years and I wanted to know which teams in history have stayed the closest to five five hundred the longest. I think I mentioned that on this podcast to that was a stat request. I sent rub in a new he'd have no trouble with it and he didn't and at times I felt bad about bugging rob with these things especially after I left baseball prospectus and he had no real obligation to help me with anything and I tried to spare him when I could but there were times I knew that if I wanted to answer a question there was no way I could do it without rob and he was tireless and endlessly patient and would always respond to requests and sometimes he would say I'm swamped jumped nine fielding a dozen requests and this is going wrong and that's going wrong and I just can't possibly get to this anytime soon but nine times out of ten after he said that and I said okay don't worry about it. E would get around to it after all and he would send me the answer and he would say actually actually this didn't take nearly as long as I thought it would because he was that good I was so happy the ad time when I could help him with something maybe he asked for my opinion read report a bug that I'd found on the site or something I had asked him to help search for me helped him uncover some the mother issue that he was able to fix felt like I was working off my debt a little bit but I knew I would never work at all off because I was so deeply in his debt so dependent on him in fact when I left baseball perspectives for Grantland one of the things that I fretted about was losing access assist to rob because he was such an integral part of my process and actually one of the reasons why it was important to me to keep doing this podcast which of course was started at baseball prospectus with so that I could maintain some connection to the site and have some reason to you keep sending stat requests rob because when I got to grantland and I started sending stat requests to e._S._p._N.. Stats and Info. I was somewhat shocked to learn that there were many requests. That would have been a cakewalk for rob that when I sent to E._S._p._N.. The biggest <unk> sports media company there is no one there would know how to answer them or no one would have the data that was needed to answer them and so I would end up asking rob anyway even though I left and I told him at the time if you wanted to go to e._S._p._N.. You could be running that place because you can answer questions is at this entire department does having trouble answering and it wasn't just that Rub could answer any question although he could. I almost never stumped him if I did it was just because the data didn't exist not because he couldn't query it but it was more than that it's very valuable to find someone someone who can answer questions but he would also make the questions better he would see how your question could be improved. How maybe you were overlooking something that would affect the answer and he would talk it through with you and say well have you considered this and what about that and these results might not look the way that you want them too because of x and Y and then you would craft the query together diet developed a reputation often for sending these stat requests and then after I got the result saying one more thing and often one more thing would turn out to be two or three more things and I was worried about whether I was a pain whether rob wished I would go away and leave him alone but he told me that he enjoyed working with me and others have told me that he enjoyed working with me because he liked the questions I asked and I would be very curious about them and he would get curious about them and often they were sort of immedi topics and he was excited to contribute to that research and I really think that if you did an audit on all of my baseball writing from the past decade you would probably find at the bottom of twenty percent of those articles thanks to Rob McEwen of Baseball Prospectus for research assistance? There were many articles I've written that wouldn't have been as good without Robson. Put there were others that I might not have even attempted to write without knowing that rob could supply whatever I wanted and it's not just me I think I've probably been the one who's pestered him with the most requests but he was a resource for the entire staff at Baseball Prospectus for people who left B._p.. And went on to other sites and would still send stat requests and he was always happy to help if he had the time and he always seemed to make the time even if he didn't have it and he was always generous. Chris went came to trying to impart the skills that he had to others many of the stat people that he worked with and in some cases tutored at baseball prospectus have gone on to work for teams people like Bradley Ankara and enter coup her with the Rangers now and of course Colin Island with the Astros and in Turku with the brewers and he had an impact on all of them and if you've used baseball perspectives if you've read anything at the site over the past decade it's almost certain that rob had a hand in some of those things even when we started effectively wild rob was the one who submitted the podcast I tunes and tinkered with the R._S._S. feed and handled all of those things I don't know if he knew anything about it but we asked him to help and of course he did and you may not know the name Rob McEwen if you haven't been reading to the bottom of all of my articles and seeing me thank him because as far as I could tell he had no interest in getting credit he certainly didn't seek the attention. I have no idea whether he ever looked at my articles to make sure that I had acknowledged him. He certainly never said so if he did he was in it entirely entirely to get to the answer to help someone with whatever they were doing and he was so so good at it. Sometimes I would see the queries he wrote and they seemed to go hunt for dozens hundreds of lines and I would just marvel at how he had written it and how quickly he had done it and and how clever he was at answering questions that seem so difficult to tease out the truth of the reason I mentioned at the beginning of this will tribute that a lot of people who haven't met in person come to play a big role in our lives as that Rob West hat person for many of us in this little world I never met rob. I talked to him on a few conference calls but other than that it was text only and it was so much text I just searched my email for his email address and I found more than five thousand threads that I was on with rob job whether emails or g chats and to my knowledge no one at baseball prospectus ever met him in person even people who lived in some proximity to him in the Chicago area never met him. He was a private person he certainly could have gone on to work for a bigger company or for a team but I think he valued being able to keep to himself the way that he could be and so he was something of a mystery man in that respect and yet you felt like he was a constant presence like you were interacting with him all the time because you were in one way or another and people sometimes say that I don't sleep and I thought Robin Sleep really I think he did sleep but he slept at odd times as I tend to do and so there is many a night or many in early morning when I would look at my G. Chat list of contacts contacts at three A._M.. Or some other ungodly hour and the old knee green dot signifying that someone else was available inactive was rob McEwen and there were many nights when we chatted about something or other maybe some stat request had sent him but often often just baseball or something else and we kind of kept each other company. It's one of those things who are even though I never met the man. It's incomprehensible to me that I won't be able to talk to him again because he's been there for as long as I've been doing this and even to the end. He wasn't very forthcoming about his personal. Life and I don't think anyone knew the severity of the health issue he was facing and so it's come as a shock to many of us that he has gone but he's been an unsung hero for so long and he's had a huge impact on a lot of us in this line of work if you've enjoyed anything that I've written over the years. There's a very good chance that rob McEwen made it better if you've read almost any B._p.. Research over the past decade that is certainly true so my best to any family or friends in his life who probably knew rob in a different way than we did but even though the way we knew him was somewhat unusual he meant so much to us and he will be greatly greatly missed so sadly for the last time thanks to rob McEwen for research assistance. You can buy my book the M._V._p.. Machine how baseball's baseball's new nonconformists are using data to build better players most listeners. I've heard from C.. Malek it. It is right up your alley. 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Monday 1/13/20 - Bowling & Boats

Chicago Dog Walk

20:31 min | 1 year ago

Monday 1/13/20 - Bowling & Boats

"All Right Bank says Monday January Thirteenth Takako Dog Walk Guests the day of courses. Carl Carl how are you. I'm a little banged up. I'm getting over a cold so just want to get that out there but otherwise otherwise. I'm good this is gonNA. Are you sure it's gone because everyone I'm in it's a late third quarter okay. So you're not out of the woods yet. No no not even close to a lot of lot of limb. Yeah a lot of phlegm. Speaking of that I mean not really speaking of that at all. I mean if I wanted to have sex it would be difficult difficult speaking on the weekend. You know what I mean. No one likes you know. No one likes a premature Edwin Jackson. You know no no premature ejects so make sure hit Roman Almond I like Edwin Jackson number. Fifty five you don't Wanna come to early though. You don't want Jackie late or orgasm you WanNa have a good experience your aunts. You WanNa give a good experience. It's what sex is all about. It's Monday you may be down on. 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Yeah because we come mighty New Year's Christmas New Year's Mas Birthdays right away. Dad's birthdays around the corner. Two year old nephews birthday sandwiched between Lata. Southwest suburban travel of all and then we got like some black-tie thing for the high school fundraiser. Slav gone on brother. Rice high school bowing every January yeah yeah. That's my October and I was just like you. Just prepare for it I got I got a brother two February I I forgot his birthday too. So that's another Taylor so can't forget that what's yours. You have a murder Tober. Nephew's birthday that it's my birthday. That's my dad's birthday. That's my brother-in-law's birthday than it's my sister's birthday so five and one month and we were joking before the show. We're lucky we love our families. Yeah it's great. It's great I I don't mind it but it's all it it it's a lot. It's a lot because they always they half after you have to do something press okay. I don't need to do something. Yeah yeah we were joking that as much as we love our families. It's still very very difficult Yeah we don't need to do stuff. You're low maintenance family member. Are you the lowest maintenance family member in your family. Yeah I would say to extent probably I mean yeah. Don't I know you're naturally humble guy. I'm not asking you generally I would say I would say to an extent But Yeah I don't know it's really high maintenance so to be honest with you. Yeah there's not really yeah well maybe but there's not too much of a of a divide. I guess but besides that what did you. What did you do over the weekend? He got some polling done. We we were both on the bowling long train this week. Yeah we I join a balling Lang is actually. You're gonNA love this fact. I withheld us. I say this from the Bowling League I'm in is actually white. SOx Dave's old companies companies Bowling League. Oh yes can I say. It's the Echo Ball. Does he know this. I don't think so. Wow Yeah so. It's like a bunch of logistics brokers. Now there's two sides sides of the company. I don't know too much about. I know Dave is in the side where you make a lot of cold calls just like you know dip in and chugging monster and stuff so like this is the other side. Oh my the the my buddy. That's my in on it. He's in his mid thirties jake. to He's an established kind of sales guy he came up echoing so's really good friends there so he has an open. He doesn't work there anymore but he is opening spot on the team. That's nice and what kind of is it an old alley. Is it like a chain alley. Let me tell you something. Diversity River Bowl. All Reverend Logan Organ. That's a good bowling. I mean that the pins are rattling. That's thirty six lanes. It's an old school Bali not a lot of graphics. There's no cosmic bowling on this place. Pro Shop Onsite. Great Billiards Room. Are you pro cosmic bowl. I'm not against it. I think it certainly has its place I wouldn't and I wouldn't turn down a night of cosmic bowling on principle. What about you it's got a lot of nostalgia think to it you know? Get the fuck and Blue Eiffel Sixty five as a kid Ryan and he just see the lights in the fucking holograms like shadowing off laying twelve. That's a lot of history. And that's I appreciate cosmic I wouldn't do a cosmic bowl all league. No yeah probably not probably too much but if it was if I was on a regular league and maybe one night it was like cosmic night like that. You know so random. That should be the regular. She'll be like ten weeks. And then there should be a random cosmic week and it's like that bonus double the points for the league standings but other than that. Yes yes I think there is such thing as too much cosmic ball this a nine week league okay and then my body on it again jake. He's a phenomenal baller. I think he was like carrying a one ninety average last year. One eighty something like that. So that's pretty good for this league because it's again. It's like the Echo Logistics Company League. It's not give your own ball on your own shoes and shit. I'm using my dad's ball also. My Dad was on Bowling League. I just remember that as a kid on Mondays my day will go go out and get hammered and come home and smell you know. He's yeah you know and so I have his ball from them and the bag. It's like a handmaid's bag in the shoes. What night is it on Wednesdays Wednesday night? Yeah that's a great ball. I'm already two days away. Yeah like we we were about to get in the league. It was a Sunday after. It's tough someone. You're not a Sunday afternoon. Got But it was a it was a hand score league all that kind of frigging. It's not you know what I I mean. Yeah just to have someone sit there. Everyone hundred team know how to keep score not me. That's for sure but definitely the other two guys for sure would know how to. How long would it take for you to learn satiety score it would take a long time? I'm absolutely just not there when it comes to math. Yeah just out there. It's like you know I don't get the spare thing like so if you do. If you hit a spare the next The next frame it means more right. Yeah the next frame. However many pens you pick up in the next time you add that? That's how much you got for your frame with spare Ti- like that's like so it's basically ten plus eight eighteen then but then that eight than if you pick up the spare than just roll forward eighteen for that frame see. That's you've got your smart guy. I'm telling you I just doesn't click for me so there were some people that were like if you get a chance. Make sure Eddie subs in the leagues or are you. Oh cable or like. I think you'd think your precise Shaw I'm I'm a backhander. I don't know if that's a problem or not. We have a guy who backhands they call them Schwarzer in the league he just walks up and backhands it and I am so your back hammer backhander I I don't it doesn't feel natural coming off the regular way. Do you have your own ball. I know you know but I got to go to the bowling. God I gotta get one time. Do you think he'd fit you if he knew candidate debating that my body's when we went bowling last week how's it. What do you think of? I tell me I'm back. He would just instantly be disappointed. I think and he would turn out of business now. He probably wouldn't turn on the business but he'd be mad. What type tall do you pick when? What House Ball you get? How heavy? I don't like them heavy. It's the same thing with a back. You know what I mean to be sub for softball like I like it light. You think Barry Bonds would use a twelve pounder. Oh my God. Barry Bonds Produce fucking heavy idiot of costume ball so you think so I think he chokes up. You think so. I thought Barry Bonds used a heavy bat no thirty to thirty inch. Alfonso Soriano Soriano throws the eighteen compound house ball with no-go well he he didn't use heavy bat. Really all I regret to inform you. I'm sorry well I I thank you for letting me know. Good Fun fact but no I. It's never bowling shirt. Ed No I don't but would you put at his the name on. What if you did? I think I think that's appropriate for shirt at her. Just like a I love those though. You know what I mean. You should have a mechanic shirts success. Carl yeah that's a good thing to work in the arsenal. You Know I. I always appreciate those. Those are Nice. You GotTa get him an exercise. Big Too don't don't get your standard size because you get out there and you try to pick up a split in your butt crack showing or whatever. Don't be afraid to go big on the shirts. Well speaking of. which are we got new shirts coming out that are they? Could they be passes boring shirts. I don't know when they're coming out I think so just by principle alone. It's a short sleeve button up. So yes yeah. That's what I wore. Shorts look like a short sleeve button up that I like wearing a date with my wife. I like war balling because I wasn't prepared but I was like well whatever. It's a nice shirt that's coming up. Yeah so it's I I don't I have no idea what it comes outside on a tease. It too hard but it's it would be a nice bowling shirt if you're in the market for one Speaking of being in the market at speaking of the market we have JP Grazziano says well On for a sponsor. Today Yeah I mean what what can we say. Here Carl the jars back in stock the Falente hot move mild move mile jarred ADHOC jarred the packaging. It I gave it to my father in law retired Chicago fire fighter Liz. A guy who's respect them obviously out for and he was just like this. Is Mike unbelievable gift. Good stuff look me in the eyes. I can't wait to apply this in my own Italian beef. 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Awesome well What else is going on? I kind of a funny interaction. I had a birthday party at home. Slice Friday our home slice. Yes so the home so we had a Lincoln Lincoln Park to Paul campus home. So webster could bar yes. Solid spot in We I my first time there. We had ugly solder party in December. Yeah and so I walk in for my second time ever there and there's a group there's a table of the You might remember there of guys that were there they were there again really and I walk in there like dude. Is this like your spot. Like how often do you come. You don't want and it's a good barbecue. You're not branding yourself. It's not at all I mean that I would I I mean homesites I call what is a great basic bit spot hundred gram picture. Say Girls Miami of Ohio spot like they got that fucking can milkshake liquor drink. What is it they put on it in there and make sure a nice picture stay? They got a day pictures of pizza. They got a nice brunch aired. It's a good spot but yeah you probably I don't WanNA brand is that but it's just funny like I'm just like I'm GonNa like staredown in this guy's this is your spot. Well this is your spot thought off. Yeah it was honestly it was a spot off with this guy. How how many? How many of his group of friends were there out of there was the whole crew? Then that's their spy like seven or eight of them your sub. They're like were over here. Because it's like we we have like a party has sorta why like I'm fascinated. What did you wear I just wore it was the day was really shitty raining. Okay shares warlike a like a north face t shirts he jeans. I like when it's bad weather and you have to go to a place like home slice because then it takes all the the pressure off of well knowing into basic bitch spot and you walk in there and it's like whatever weather's shitty. I'm wearing a Hoodie deal with it. Yeah you know what honestly crazy facts about that have closed at midnight. What's what's crazy? They should have some relationship with Vaughan's or Or State Bar I think St Ours Kloesel some of the bars around that area research close. I thought did I hear that. No I don't want to spread that rumor. It was open in December. I don't want to spread any rumors. I love state bar. Yeah I know you're a big fan of it. That's why it'd be. I retract. Whatever I said I'd rather be wrong than than right? Yes someone look it up of state bars closed I. We didn't go became the back way so I I couldn't see. Oh that's right north side guy coming back way but it's a nice area. I used to live over there. Yeah no it is nice. South far is that from actual actual deposits on campus. So is it. Yeah Saint Vincent Vincent. Paul is literally half a block. That's like the Church okay in the center of Paul's campus. Okay 'cause I always go back and forth with like we're actually is the Paul because one of those places is that like if there's a building here building they're like how big is the actual campus. You know it is it is close confirmed. Wow that's tragic news. Eight a great ball French French onion. I know you and I have talked about this before French. Onion target Combi they very nice combination at cheese. Like greer I can't say they say it right. GREER did I get it excelllent. I've been working on it for years. You've new the thumbs up the right Dan that's a shame. I know you really liked that place. I've bonded big time that place. That's that's like was a great sports bar. I think that's the death is sports bars though sports bars are Dina. Because it's not as cool as it used to be to go out and pack the place. I mean you'd have you know it just not as cool. I don't think the I don't think the kids are doing as much as we were. That's what I want. I had an older man from my an older guy. You know. Probably your arranger a couple years older from the neighborhood. I ran into about the barbershop and he was bitching to me about that about how you know. This next generation doesn't like to glaucous lots of NFL. Sunday at the bar. I don't want to criticize the younger generation because you're great generation but yeah I mean coming up who was just get loaded fireball and rumble moments in email. I hear you what else you do. Your to the boat show I went to the boat show. Have you been to the Chicago Boat. Show anybody here now. Our camera guy was with us. I'm sure he has you fucking the. Here's some observations. Is I hate to fuck do this to you ED. Now the pontoon crew and make kyw contact by not a friendly crowd at all across the industry had a very hard time getting someone from the Pontoon sales guy any type of specialist shaw people who were buying pontoons that was i. I was very disappointed. The pontoon crowd second pontoons very expensive. Wow average pontoon. That was there because again. This is the boat show so we're not rolling out Toyota camrys okay But the average pontoon boat there is a fair to say seventy five thousand dollars seventy seventy five a lot of money for fucking pontoon boat observation number three. I think this is going to surprise you. The most the nicer the boat the nicer asserted the people that were selling it really. Yes wow so if you the luxury stuff. Hey I'm bobby from gauge up in Lake Geneva. No Oh that does surprise me a lot because it's the old adage it's like. I had a job as a Valet Parker in high school and it was always like. Hey don't be so sure sure that Mercedes GonNa take care of you but I'll tell you what that Falkand Ford Explorers GonNa take care because it's like a a working guy. He knows how it is. You know what I mean. I know what your thought is deserve. So that's very little flip flop like the we were at one boat. It was three hundred thousand and the guy comes over and we were shooting video and he goes make. Sure you're saying the video video of Bobby Central. Knock it down to fifteen. I'm like come on man. I like that but then you go over the pontoon. It's like hey can I ask you a couple of questions. No Sore deals going down here. They'll do their hustling raise buying boats. Yes in January. And I'm asking him. Do you WanNa come on and tell us about your marina caused like you know. Put Put your information author Komo one nothing nothing. Just the Pontoon People Pontoon people only bass fishing could have been more could not have been more collegial today not know that our audience is the biggest pontoon audience in the fucking nation. It's tough to say because here's the thing. A lot of these dealers are from Wisconsin loud fans they can smell me coming a mile away. Okay so they thought you were a pontoon. Wow that's I you know I always love Julia Bass pro shop ever go up there gurney or something like that. That's my favorite thing. You know 'cause I get kinda bored Fox and friends are always looking for like those Colombian Fuck Columbia fucking Fisher shirts and I just walk up the stairs and had a pontoon boat. I take a squad and I just sit there for like a half hour where you get pretty pretty peaceful do you have like an ideal ideal. Pontoon sat up or like what your whatever has the most seeding. Some of them are set up Kinda stupid. Where like there's not there's not ample seating But you know what I mean like good pontoon boat to me. Takes takes advantage of all the square footage to put as much seating as you cannot kind of waste some spots. I WanNa talk two things together. Quickly we talked about bulling earlier and pontoons one thing. They have in common. I I like the carpet that fall absorbed and carpet. You drop a beer on a bowling alley floor. It is soaked up literally in seconds. Same thing with the Pontoon you spill something boom sulked execute point It's a matter though. It never matters if you spill I mean unless of its colored right Michael Hawaiian Punch But if it's like you're playing slap the bag and someone gets a little aggressive on the Red Franz you. Yeah Yeah then then. That's that that gets a little bit you know. There's there's water fucking shifting over US up. It's a it's a little bit of a tough tough spot. Pond twos not really gonNA take take a beating I guess so was there big Asiatic. Oh yeah wow up million bucks over a million bucks six million dollars where was it at McCormick place south. Okay huge dude so I walk over. mastercraft is this is the wake boarding. And there's these couple young guys from Lake Geneva one guy's name Max. He's like Yo car Bra. I got a surprise for man or heard you come in any fucking leans into a cooler. On one of the boats the boats they get the built in like storage and stuff and he's got Miller lite on ice forming. Wow toss me three of them. and Suzanne big time he is mill. It was a big time. Sports boats alike tubing water skiing. waterboarding watercraft ball to his kind of the younger a younger cells and these guys were super cool so they invited us up to Lake Geneva to do a day on the lake and test out some of their to being wake boarding. So we're we're hopefully can organize a barstool Chicago Day late Geneva this summer to do some kind of water sports exhibitionists Derby Gal. I'll be happy to sit in the boat. Watch by Sax Day break his neck but I mean really though. Oh I think that's what we're looking for and and let the record show that our camera guy has has extensive experience filming about does He. That's his background before before we may may we say doing outdoors outdoor TV shows Chit. I'll bought it way tax dave off the fucking ramp as Jaber told us on dog. Walk Remember you gotTa spray the ramp town. You gotTa keep the ramp wet. Yeah they asked him. I'm like what happens if you if you don't if it's a dry ramp. He's like not good man. You get used some gnarly you get some. What do you call Narda Edge Bro? Narda to me because it was like gnarly damage shortage gnarly chat. That's a new one so why Carl was good talking here about your weekend. Happy Monday. Happy Monday we cover a lot here today. going to keep them a little longer gonNA keep them like twentyish now now that there's two ads this week so whatever that situation we'll keep it along or request to yeah. I have an email Carla parcel sports. I have to learn how to throw a hook. So if there's like in instructional video or something out there anybody who knows something about bowling if you send me a tip or something I am. I'm green behind the ears but I want to get better Carla Parcel. Sports had 'em up art. That's we will catch you tomorrow.

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The Bettors Box MLB Betting Podcast April 9, 2020

Sports Gambling Radio - By BangTheBook

24:58 min | 1 year ago

The Bettors Box MLB Betting Podcast April 9, 2020

"Hello again thanks for joining me in the betters. Fox Bang Book dotcom. Mlb bedding guests for Thursday. April ninth. I'm your host Adam Burke this end every initiative betters Fox presented by our friends over at. Gsi SPORTSBOOK BE TB and the number two hundred. Is that Promo Code. One hundred percent deposit match moments for the sports book. One hundred percent deposit match bonus for the live casino at bet the SL. It's only a game on until you bet. Five twenty twenty. Mlb Betting Guide available in downloadable PDF form over at Bangor Book Dot Com also over at the website. We got a preview of you have see to forty nine. What Greek card. Lotta great flights on that one very breakdown of that event coming up here. On April eighteenth were also rolling out our NFL draft coverage. Got Several articles for you to check out with regards to that. We're two weeks away from the NFL draft in college. Football season windows came out at online yesterday. Got Thoughts on that. How they set those up. How you should set those up to see how you WanNa bet into those numbers. And of course we've got in addition to paying the book radio with Brian Blessing on Tuesdays editions of the Betters Fox for you to download and check out plenty of stuff going on over at bankable dot com despite everything that's going on out there in sports world so we encourage you to head over there. Check that out. I mentioned the sportsbook already but a lot of sports booker views over there. And if you're going to bet on the NFL draft as I wrote about in today's piece looking at the first offensive. Lineman drafted you understand that. They're going to be a lot of price differences out there in the betting market so check out the sports book reviews over at Bangor Book Dot Com. Get yourself setup at some of these different outs because these price differences are would be very dramatic for the NFL draft as well as other things that come down over the next lifetime of sports and sports betting there are always better lines to be had out there in one way shape or form. So you WANNA have multiple outs at your disposal. Whenever that's available to you all right. So as far as today's edition of the vox goes figured I would dive into something. Maybe a little bit more advanced but I think that this is something that will be very beneficial for you. Not just today. But as we go throughout the major league baseball season whenever that does get underway and is breaking down the world of Wolf and ex Wa wa over at baseball savant which is the online home. Obstat CAST data a product of. Mlb advanced media. We've seen a lot of stat. Cast data get incorporated into the handicapping world over the last few years. I believe this will be the sixth season of stat cast. I want to say either the fifth or six but a lot of people incorporating these metrics into their models when they're breaking down baseball from a handicapping standpoint so I think it's very very important to be able to talk about some of these concepts that you can find over at baseball savant S. A. V. A. N. T. dot com now reminder. That Wolpe is basically the smarter brother of on base percentage. It's weighted on base average weighted in the sense that walks in singles count for less than doubles triples and home runs. Home runs obviously count for the most followed by triples so on and so forth so just to illustrate what woke a means. And why it's important. The woke awaits brome last season again. The W in wool bus stands for weighted on base average last year. The Ron value of a walk was nice. At Point. Six nine runs. A hit by pitch was a run value of point. Seven one nine. A single was the run value of point. Eight seven zero. A double was run value of one point. Two one seven runs a triple one point five to nine runs and then a home run. One point nine four runs so those were the run values from the twenty nine thousand nine season other run values do change year in and year out based on the run environment based on for example. Last year we saw a lot of home runs. We saw a lot of Solo home runs in two thousand eighteen when the ball was debtor. We didn't see as many solo home runs but we saw a higher run value. Four home runs so again. It's kind of a difficult concept to grasp your to wrap your head around a little bit especially when you talk about the delivery here in an in a vocal context but what you really need to know you really need to keep in mind about. Wolpe is that it does wait outcomes differently based on the run values and why that's important is because a look if you give up a lot of home runs as a pitcher. That's bad if you don't give up a lot of home runs and you do walk some guys or something like that. That's not as bad. Does kind of whatever is used for both the hitting side as well as on the pitching side and then we get expected wobble which is X. W Ob a now again. The ex means expected the W is weighted so actual is a stat cast metric based primarily on exit philosophy and launch angle. So what is going to do is it's going to take the exit philosophy and the launch angle and compare that to similar batted ball. Similar exit velocity similar in law. Jangle so for example. I ran a query over at baseball savant here this morning. That said that there were four hundred. Twenty four batted balls in play with an exit velocity between one hundred while an exit bossie inclusive of one hundred to one hundred and two miles per hour and a Wa- Changle inclusive of twenty degrees. Do Twenty three degrees out of those four hundred. Twenty four batted balls. Sixty five went for home. Runs now out of those four hundred? Twenty four batted balls. One hundred sixty five of them went for doubles job. Fifteen point three percent of the time. A batted ball of one hundred to one hundred eighty two miles per hour for the launch angle of twenty. Two twenty. Three degrees is a home run about thirty nine percent of the time. That bad ball is a double so from an actual standpoint. It will look at the sample size of batted balls and say well. There's an expectation of this for singles for doubles for triples for home runs. So that's going to be included in the X. Walbrook calculation for that specific pitcher so again this is based on exit philosophy and based on launching all kinds of things factored into the equation seer of these stat casts metrics but specifically with X. Wolpe it looks primarily at exit velocity and launch angle. So what we could use this for as we can look specifically at balls in play. Which is what I'm going to do here today. And examined some pitchers that got lucky or unlucky relative to the expectation so what this would be a higher wall or a job compared to the expo. Taking all of these batted balls into account and again. I realized that this is maybe a little bit more of an advanced concept. So if you have any questions at skating tripods on twitter and at the book dotcom help you out with some of this stuff but we'll give you some examples here of the pitchers that fall into these categories if either positive aggression or negative regression based on what we saw last year. So what I did was. I took a sample size of pitchers with at least two hundred balls in play now. That brings us to one hundred ninety eight pitchers from last season. Now if you have a positive LOPA MINUS X Wilbur difference that implies likely positive regression so if you're Woah against was higher than your ex wolf against expectation is for positive progression on the flip side. If you're whoa boat was lower than expected. Moba that would signal the expectation of negative progression. It would suggest that pitcher got lucky on balls in play now again. This is a concept that we do see out in the betting markets. Because like I've talked about before it started with era VIP at X. Fifth and the differences between those metrics create line movements out there in the marketplace. We'll now we see guys. They'd have big differences between there wolf bowers and they're expected woolas. We see line movements based on that. So if you've got a guy with a high noble in a lower ex-wba the line is generally going to move on that guy on the flip side. If it's a lower wool a higher ex-wba the line will typically move against that starting pitcher so we do see this a very tangible impact out there in the betting market so it is something that if you want a handicap off a little bit more advanced level it is something you WanNa have in your repertoire. Here I will tell you at the end of the show how you can actually look at this and how you can evaluate it for yourself so again. We're looking at a sample size of one. Hundred Ninety eight pitchers with at least two hundred balls in play now. The water and ex-wba charts over at baseball savant actually do include strikeouts. Walks hit by pitches. And so on. I'm looking here specifically at falls in play just to maybe make this concept a little bit easier for you Again I know. It's a very difficult concept. Try and grasp from. I'll try to do the best that I can't hear with it but again what you really need to focus on here. Is that just like fifth? An expert and era if you've got a higher noble and a lower ex-wba positive regression a lower wober and a higher x. Wilda negative progression. That's basically what we're looking at here with these two metrics would take a look at some pictures specifically here that had much higher. Whoa Buzz X. Wilma's guys that you would expect for the upcoming season however much of it gets played or maybe twenty twenty one to have some positive progression Elliott Hernandez his Wolpe was point. Zero eight three higher than his expo. Eighty three points higher in his Wolpe then his ex well. We would expect positive progression in that department. Edwin Jackson seventy one points higher. We would expect positive aggression for him up leaks no sixty nine points higher wolves fan ex-wba and if you look at. Blake sales numbers from last year. You can see the areas where he had a drop off any areas where we should see improvement for the upcoming season. Jose Suarez Sixty two points. Higher with Wool Blah Blah Blah Chad bettas fifty six points higher. Peter Lambert fifty three points higher. But obviously when you talk about chorus field that can skew a lot of different metrics. So I'm not really looking too closely and a guy like that but doing cease of the Chicago. White Sox fifty four points higher with wool but then his ex Woah Chris. Stratton fifty two points higher. We Chen forty nine points. Higher drew pomeranz Forty eight points. Higher Carlos Carrasco Forty seven points higher. Same thing for Free Peralta Wilmer Font forty six points higher or team Peres forty five points higher bet boy forty four points higher than Matt and Greece Forty Two points higher. And you look at like Matt Boyd. For example he gave up a lot of home runs last sees it as I've just talked about the value of home runs is higher than anything else for Matt Boyd. Giving up a lot of home runs would force him to carry a very high woah. We look at X. Logo here what this is possibly suggesting. I would believe to be the case. Is that where they dead or baseball with a different run environment here? Which was the expectation coming into this season. That way is a guy that should greatly improve. Because what this tells me is that maybe some of those home runs based on launch angle and exit velocity shouldn't have been home runs and those bad it falls probably wouldn't be during the twentieth twenty season with a different baseball dmed. Boyd is a clear cut example. Here Blake Snell as well as you saw a whole Rodman freese last year. Click Sellin. Matt Boyd Are Two guys to be that I would look to buy stock. In because of this over and ex-wba difference so again the higher the Wolpe and the lower the Xibalba the more you want to look for positive regression from those guys and I do think a guy like that void and a guy like blake snow or guys. That should definitely improve in that department here for this upcoming season or for. Twenty eight twenty one. Whatever the case may be a few other notable sear that had higher wool bus and lower X. Wilma's Dylan Gundi and again I keep finding reasons to buy stock in Dylan Bundy. This is about the three or four times that his name has come up in some of these positive regression areas dylan. Bundy is the guy I do like the upcoming season near get gets out of the. Al GOES OUT TO ANAHEIM. A Better Park. Backer looking to buy some stock Dylan Bundy about Max Scherzer. Thirty two point difference between his Wilbur. And his Ex Wilbur. Off Of what was it out. Liar season for him in particular in the whole month department. So Snell Boy Bundy Sherzer all guys. I'm looking to back not just because if this statistic in and of itself what because we're seeing a lot of reasons across a lot of these different statistics due to buy those guys with the season. Actually it's going another guy here with thirty two point difference Max free from the Atlanta Braves. We get a guy that I'm definitely buying stock in for the upcoming season as well now obviously look on the flipside year but some negative progression candidates guys whose focus quite a bit lower than their ex will guys that got very fortunate on balls in play and the first one guy. I've been talking about selling stock in him. All lead up long year is Jeff Samardzija whose was forty five points. Lower then his ex. Wa Wa a clear positive aggression kit at Berkeley negative progression candid. Excuse me begging progression candidate to say the Least Johnny. Torino's forty four points lower than his ex-wba another regression candidate therefore the Tampa Bay Rays Brett Anderson forty two points lower Daniel Hudson forty one points lower set. He sat up the. Union's forty points lower stay with Felix Peyton. Eric's Fatty George Yamamoto and Sirocco SCIROCCO. We see that with the low. Era Higher Fifth Higher Exit and the Low Bab. We see that he's a guy that got lucky on balls in play. Here's another example of how SIROCCO got lucky. So white SCIROCCO would be a regression kid to me for the upcoming season like fires. We've talked extensively about him and the regression. That's in line for him. Thirty seven point difference there between his job and his ex Wilda you spiro petite. Same thing thirty seven point difference. Gaby's three six points Jack. Flirty thirty four points Larry. Very pedestrian first-half. Very good second half seems like he got lucky on balls in play there in the second half. We'll look for some aggression out of him. Jean deeper and Patrick Corbin. Twenty five point difference. Sunny Grades Twenty nine point difference to be anything that's outside of a twenty point. Difference is something that catches my attached. No you want to look for the biggest of the outliers and again. I've talked about this a lot on previous segments here. The degree to which we experienced this regression is unknown. What would you focus on the biggest of the outliers? Those are the likeliest guys to regress towards the ME and again in my mind. I think at twenty point gap between Bobo. An AD. Slogan is fine it is what it is just kind of sample size noise or whatever else but you start getting these big gaps like forty five like smell at sixty nine point dylan fifty four. Those are the ones that with a reasonable degree of certainty. We can't expect positive or negative progression again. What I'm trying to do here is I'm trying to find the greatest outliers for us that we have an idea. We have a profile of these pictures for the season actually begins we key in on a lot of these guys and look for opportunities to either bet them or fade them and a lot of these names keep coming up over and over and over again and that's why design. Those are guys that I fully keyed in on. I put them into pockets or buckets or whatever you WANNA call it of guys. I'm looking to buy and guys I'm looking to sell and once we get games once we get to see this play out in the betting market. Those buckets of guys. I'm looking to sell. Boobs will come in against them. Those buckets have guys. I'm looking to buy lie. Moves will come in on them. This is all part of the preparation process. And obviously we've got some extra time for that preparation process here this year. We're building profiles of these pitches attributes by and attributes to sell and an X. Wolpe are two things that you will see from a live movement standpoint and you'll see a lot of smarter baseball handicappers talking about these things. Because they will they will bear themselves out in a lot of instances over the course of the season don't ex-wba because it's based on exit velocity and launch angle is designed to take defense out of the equation. You know because you may get a guy who's got an elite outfield defense. And he may just do a better job of preventing doubles and home runs on paper. But we know it to be the defense that's behind ex well because it's based on launch angle at exit philosophy and it compares that specific batted ball type to the other ones that are out there. It takes defense out of the equation again remember. What are the reasons why V v gained so much traction and gained so much popularity is because they take defense out of the equation? Era is subject to a lot of noise because it factors in defense at sequencing at things like that it is subject to a lot of various. Vip and exit are based on things. Pitcher can't control breakouts. Blocks hit by pitches and Holbrooke X. Wilma here would suggest the same thing. Then a pitcher can control the launch angle and can control the exit velocity like commanding the baseball by locating where he wants to locate do X. Y. is a good indicator of pitchers that are locating well and the success that they're having now something else you've been your. Is that all the numbers the individual performances that I just talked about lonely focused on balls in play now as I've talked about before whoa incorporates. Things like blocks things. Like hit by pitches stuff like that. And obviously if you're a strikeout guy that's the best case scenario because you're not allowing balls in play so the Wolpe at Expo. The leader Board over at baseball and I do have a leak to this in the betters Fox notes for today's show. Does incorporate strike outs and once again. That's very important you know. You don't have a batted ball with a slight walk but a walk is bad and a strikeout is very very good. Leaderboard over at baseball spot. Go do the the leaderboard page. Go-to player pitching. You can select the expected. Statistics leaderboard from the dropdown menu. You'll see what those numbers look like. When you factor strikeouts walks into the equation and some other outliers disability at that. Mitch Keller for the Pirates. Seventy eight point difference on the high side between his Wolpe and his ex well but he's a positive progression candidate for the upcoming season. Corbin Bernsen brewers sixty five point difference. Nick Kingham fifty nine point difference on eight thirty five point difference on the negative side Yard Garcia for the marlins forty nine point difference got over forty two point difference. Poop beaver. Thirty do- point difference again when you look at the difference between an exile. A positive number means the expectation positive progression and a negative number feeds the expectation of negative. Again we are looking to educated guests inferences based on the data. That's out there faced on these statistical profiles that we have compiled for these individual pitchers over these versions of the Betters Fox and just throughout the research coming into the season looking to make educated. Guess who want to bet on the positive progression candidates or often and bet against the negative progressive candidates four off so we could use them. We could use excellent Jarrai at exit us. Plus we can put a lot of things in the equation here and find a set of pitch that we wanna back and that we wanna fake and again as continuing to build this case. You're seeing a lot of the themes keep popping up over and over and over again like a dylan pointing a back. Screen like sloga like galaxies smell seborga fires. We're seeing a lot of these things pop up over and over and over again and put that needs to be we have a lot of smog indicator of either positive negative pressure out there and those are things that we can flip to explain once games are actually played and once we've got defending arket the really breakdown all right so the recording ran out of steam. They're a little bit at the end. Hopefully you're able to catch all. That did the best. I can with the editing process. Here and in fact went back and edited a new closing here for this edition of the box again. A very advanced concept. I talked about here on today's show. You've got plenty of time you familiarize yourself with these concepts. You've got plenty of time to listen to pass the dishes of the show of the batter's box here right at bang. The book dot Com or of course. Obviously if you subscribe on any of the various podcasts platforms you can go back and listen to some of the previous shows as well for coming up on Monday. We'll do the Monday mailbag once again. At the top of the show at Bangor book dotcom via email at skating dry pods on twitter asks about baseball the NFL Draft College Football College Basketball Bourbon. Beer movies music doesn't really matter to me just sending your questions. Give me something to talk about here on this Monday edition of the box. Not Sure exactly. What the topic will be for Monday? Probably something a little bit lighter than looking at wall and ex-wbo but you'll have to tune in to find out for me. They can switch for listening and remember that you will never strike out when you're in the Betters Fox.

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Ep 73: June 17th - Indianapolis Colts

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Ep 73: June 17th - Indianapolis Colts

"Asking. Good afternoon. Give tony. This is bro. Abets a podcast, forty Jenner. It's by degenerates, you could follow us on Twitter apper rats on the action at where my thought apps lash proper bets. It is Monday, June seventeenth we begin another week and I will say that I believe that the Monday after the US open officially signifies the summer dead period of gambling, but that's okay. We're here for you for baseball. Yeah. We will be here for you. When the open returns in a month, we will be here for Gore's Wimbledon Wimbledon. We're going to we're going to sniff out some winter, and we continue our thirty two teams and thirty two days, and then we got football this show really ramps up. So you know what? Just stick with two questions before we move on. Okay. Number one CFL Canadian Football League. Are we gonna go there at all? I got nothing. I. I'm not I don't like to make a habit out of betting things on this show that I don't know. Just throwing things out there willy nilly for listeners, and I'm not gonna put the I'm not gonna invest time in the fell to know about it. I believe they have some crazy. Fucking lines two. Like, like there's some fucking crazy. Worrying deficits that occur. Yeah. I'm gonna stay away. What about, you know, I mean, I saw now it was on the other night. I really didn't watch it. But then I got thinking about it. And then some people are chirping not lying about it like what's going out to see a foul, and I'm thinking a you know, we got a Canadian up north. He's watching the game lives there. I think he hates it. Big enough, jump Cathcart. Yeah. He's going to be here this week. So we'll ask Sean, but no, I don't think the show should get in the business of, of betting things that are there, just because there's there, there's nothing. I mean crickets on right now too. But I don't know dick about. My second question is what the hell you doing? What do you mean what the hell are you doing? Gary woodland, Gary fucking comes out on Wednesday before they t- off the voice. The thirty five year old journeyman and. Yeah. That's what I call him journeyman. I think he's got two titles in his in his career, the kid from Kansas and digs out of left field. Yeah. I gotta throw Gary woodland in there. It's like Gary with it. He's, he's a ball striker. Over twenty seven. I mean he had, he's had a couple of good showings, the player every something digs, just give you something you built on the ball striker and as you see pebble not a lot of driver. A lot of put it in the fairway smaller screens on tours guys. Great of grieves regulations. Never finished in a top ten to major in his career on. No. That was before. I mean these the thirty six hole leader plenty types. I mean, that's what you went to pick him. You talked about how he always leads early. Nice ball strike, and then yeah. He's gotta shell can't they all fucking strike balls on that tour. Okay. Don't say. There's a lot of people don't strike bothe-. I mean do you see everyone fucking hit the fairway known as a ball? Striker. Not throwing it in their snatches of Potter. If anything, he's not a fucking Paul, stricter strike. What do you think? Zack Johnson's a ball striker got a major strike Druk balls that day when he won the green jacket and Gary's an athlete. Former basketball player anyway. However you did it brother hats off day. What, what a great poll, and I'm sure that thing paid for him. The big difference for him. This week was, obviously putty was much better than normally, as and yourself. Scrambling steady was first and scrambling one sixty ninth, I believe, usually knows good CK up there, especially with fucking with Brooks. Put pressure on you from behind. And then the pot at the end, and let's be honest. Not a lot of guys in our life in two thousand nineteen named Gary no worries. It is. The US Open's just magic. They did have Gary chance gone as he was coming up courses majestic, it's beautiful. I love the you have to that the fairway runs out and you have to hit it to forty to fifty and you can't pull out driver on every hole. You calculated and you have to plan out the course. I enjoy all that. I enjoyed pebbles, great pebbles awesome. They, they used to have a tree in the middle of eighteen fairway. I know. But it's they've moved. It was before. It was every time I played there, which is a handful of times. No, I would dump it literally underneath the tree every drive every either snap hook it under the drain you to get it in there. Yeah. But that trait. So I'm watching. I love watching that term. You guys talk about those greens. Oh that'll make you beautiful beautiful and I liked it. I liked to nice the nice overcast. Look all weekend. No son. No son it. Oh, no. Someone time. There was a trade in the NBA this weekend. Anthony Davis is going to the Lakers everyone in this office. Things automated means that they're winning championship. I'm not one of those people. Don't speak for me. Tony, I don't you dare speak? Okay. Then I was I was I was super super drug with the straight up being, but you're on the hook for something brother. Why would you mean? I mean. I mean I mean you're on the hook for some, but I got hacked. So I'm not on anything even if I am with. Okay. I don't think I mean they got fucking Anthony Davis, LeBron James Calcutta. And then there's no one else on the team last time I checked anymore than fucking three. But though. They'll fill in. They do before we crown them. Let's see what they, and that's a big if on Kouzmin to be the shooter from outside. I'm just saying. True. We got we got some questions. Three and then fucking Rondo and slave Stevenson or starting at the one and two that's going to be a tough look for your team. And they have Ford. Chris paul. Yeah. I believe they can I have no idea. I believe they can cause we'll LeBron's Amax player. And I don't know what eighties contract looks like going over from I because they were talking about. I don't think it'd be a max player because they're talking about actually I think it can cause they're talking about fucking choir goes, there that was the report this morning. But I got news for you. Quite does not wanna be on the bronze steam. Right. But I'm just saying that alien robots. And I see just he him with no motions. And I think that he doesn't feel like you know, what, by the so we got LeBron Kuzina AD. I've Rich Paul and who else has started? Go into death on this patch. But yeah, it's got some work to maybe I don't know if it goes there, then I'll change my, especially, especially more shit, the razor razor out. How'd you do on WNBA not great? I went one at three on Friday night. That was the worst slap that I've had since playing these games at the start of the season came back the next night with a split and yesterday with a split. So I just I went are the oddsmakers catching up a little bit. So one and three one one one one over the weekend. And I thought boy if I could just make some hey this weekend. But I didn't I mean we're still up overall you're still you're still way up. I lost one of lost on seventy three and four now. Still looking pretty good lost the one by half a point boy that one just a tough one. Speaking of the right side. Speaking of best bets one that you didn't lose by half a point. Your best bet was the liberty plus ten. I don't know. Thirty seven seventy they lost, and then they turn right around and win the next classic liberty. Them. Also on best bets right side Todd. You start off own one. You had the Mets against the cardinals. They were down four two after five. That's not new though. Right side. I don't know this weekend. I tough we get kicked in the fucking debt to and six on Saturday, two and five. Here's my question, though. Saturday Saturdays Sundays for the weekends for you boys. So we come in here during the week. Uh-huh. We sit down for an hour or two. And we go through all the stats and blow on everything to make our picks. Do you do the same process? We don't spend nearly as much. Just a peripheral glance and a little bit. I like them like them like, and I gotta stop that shit is my stats are fucked right now. Exactly. Fuck it. I on. Saturday, sun same way, too, 'cause I most of the time I wake up and I'm hung over and I'm like, I don't feel like pulled on my computer to go through all up. So I don't check any one thing on my phone like looks good to me, and we roll through, and then that's how your weekends that's fucked up on the weekend. All right. So I own, I had white socks with Julie. Toe is just dominated the Yankees. The kid is kids insane Gorms show is a lawyer, who Eloy I can't think of his last name the big, he's a huge oak tree of a man who hit the ball, five hundred some feet over the weekend of the sky go White Sox. Oh, yeah. The whites started. It's not a lawyer Alvarez. It's something like that. There was ninety two runs scored in the Padres, and Rockies. Remember four games, ninety two runs fucking absurd certain Padres. Also your. They have been able to hit like, dick. I don't know. I don't know what happens we. All right. So let's get it a best bets for today. Gourmet and Todd. I'll flip according to see who goes first. Let's see here. Gorge you go first. Let's go. I am going against Vegas. I do this now. And again and I go again against do and I go against Todd mccombs now. And again, idea, I know. And I think I know where he might be going. But maybe I'm wrong Astros on the road. Hot team overall at the Cincinnati Reds Cincinnati Reds or minus one twenty right now. Wade Miley on amount for eight seventy six and three overall but Louis Casteel on the mile and the reds at home to twenty ERA. But the Astros boys are if not the best team in baseball. They are the second best team in baseball go ahead and fill in your one. However you like I like the better team to win this ballgame this afternoon or early evening in Cincinnati. I am taking the Astros. They're the underdog tonight and wide Wade Miley. That's my best better. There is the theory that anytime you get Astros dog use got you to take. I like better than that. I liked the under. I five hundred in that game half with steel on the mound verse Wade Miley. I think it's a pitcher Doyle, at least through the first five plus, they're going to be playing most likely in a light rain, the entire right. So that's going to keep the run total down. I think you're gonna see just just this game is about the pitchers and wet bats is that was that your at your best bet that is not my best bell can because I don't want to go against what his best but is not able put both those into the parlor. I was gonna do because not my best bet either, but I am going. The Cincinnati Reds I five minus the one. Go cassia I five obviously one point eight seven year. Eight home one point five e or a at night. Huston his cooled off a little bit, the last thirty days versus right handed pitchers twentieth. Okay. Wade Miley who said on the mount he's got a four point five road era and a one point nine home. Boy. They happen to be on the rose. Cincinnati's fifteenth versus left handed pitching. So I'm gonna go cincy, I five Gordon's going Houston game Todd's going under. I five hundred right. So I got no fucking idea what to do with a Cup of coffee. They. As best bet to go with it. So Todd and is, and I don't hate it, by the way. I think I I mean look for Tina Twenty-three at home since I mean look at the bullpen right? Because steals, not going to pitch the entire he's six and then after that may be trouble. Here's what I can't put in a Cup of coffee. We what the Houston Astras in there. And then we put we also put the under I five we can't put my bed Cincinnati. And they can't go against it. That's not how things work. Okay. So that's we'll do so Gordon's best bet Houston Astros, money line tire game. That's his best bet Todd. What are you got for your best bet buddy, my best, the angels, I five money line Toronto? Edwin Jackson, starting for Toronto one four two point ten point two ERA. He's pitch. Twelve point one innings at Rogers centre and has allowed twenty hits in fourteen earned runs in six of those. It's were dinger's. Hates it at home. Look for him to get shelled early Astros or an adequate hands would Felix pain. Yeah. He's not he's not an earthmover but three and one at night. Four one overall with the four point five zero a he solid. Plenty solid to secure the first five inning. When you say you're going money line or Ren line there. Bunning money line money line. I five Los Angeles angels versus Edwin Jackson. I would take run line but run line has been biting me as of late, so going soft, the nice thing about going money line here for the first five years, you can also there's a push up option. They're terrible. My best bet. I'm going raise the Tampa Bay rays. First five tonight against the New York, Yankees Tanaka on the mound in his last three starts. He's gone six innings. And h start each start giving up four runs in each Tanakh is not been great that adds up the raise our ninth versus right hand pitching, which. Snuck it is. And then the timber rays have yawny Torino's on the mount. He's got two point seventy or a rocket at home. So I'm going with the race I five tonight looking for another win against the Yankees as my best double stint that also also three Nike's. He doesn't like it at night. I don't know is his internal clock is still fucked up trite because when you travel from Japan or wherever it's, it's, it's I don't know what time it is. I don't know what it's. It's tony. He's going backward in time. Yeah. Cats you can't time time machine. You need a couple of days rest. Good luck. You take luck. You've got something to say about that. Oh, I do have something to say about the way we like it love it. Love the Anki tonight. Love the Enke's at home with my hero Tanaka on the mon-. You're the stats on him. Yankees are five and five in their last ten rays are also six and four in the last ten. But here's here's the difference maker, boys. We have a new bat in the Yankee line. Who's back? He is name is Edwin Encarnacion. Okay. Okay. Over the weekend trade, he will be there. They get runs. Yankees may be the best hitting team in baseball. Yes. I said at L A dodgers. If you're listening, the Yankees in this match up to the best teams in the American League, I love the pinstripes at home and Masahiro Tanaka. I'm taking the eighties, minus one thirty five. I agree Gorms. At some point, the keys will be the best thing to in baseball this year. Just not yet not tonight, not just not yet. Against torino's. All right. My other baseball pick my last baseball pick. I'm going Braves. I five run line sirocco on the mound Arocca fucking, I've, I've backed them all year round all year long. I took him last week. Give five five or sorry, five runs in the first five didn't matter brace scored six against buyers. So I'm still gonna stick with sirocco with Brown bounceback. I mean, the guy's got a one point ninety season you gotta things going to bounce back tonight against the Mets who are twenty-second versus right. Head pitching Atlanta's six versus writing pitching and wheelers on the mound for the Mets. He's gonna five point four eight Rhody or a he's going up five four and six runs in his last three road starts I am going with the Braves. I five run line. Owning minus one twenty boys. Got any other baseball bats. That one is well, I had it the money line, but I respect room line. I think it's a good bit news. There's, there's no chance here that the Braves the first. Five with him on the mound in my opinion, and in your opinion. I appreciate your opinion. I mean it said to starts as career gets a message, only allowed one run fucking. Mets for breakfast. How's that for you? Stati Todd love it. You got another baseball. I'm done. I got to. That's all I'm playing, and I always no rain out in my World, Bank calls baseball vets. I'm tolling water on this because I don't want people that are listening to go. It's a homophobic. It is a bit of a Homer pick. But they've got such a back story in the college word series is about those back stores it is. And I'm going to college World Series today. The Michigan wolverines haven't been there since nineteen Eighty-four Todd you remember it. Barry Larkin played shortstop back in the day for the wolverines that they are back in the college World Series taken on always tough, Florida state team. I like them this afternoon there, plus one fifty five Michigan. It's not a Cinderella team, but sort of they continued the run. It's good. It's good value digs, while you looking at me like stole your diet. I just don't know. I just don't know doesn't throw ninety seven with movement, a backstory K. Backstories the calls road Sears. That's what I'm saying. I mean that's why I said he. Lot on your backstory water. Is there any WFAN? No. That's not a game Mondays off. They're never on Mondays last Monday. Not this Monday, but we'll we'll be back. We'll be back to get those WNBA is anyone have any Gold Cup or Copa America or women's World Cup or cricket any of this. I like the US women this Thursday against Sweden about that, just catch that gave it all. I saw highlights. I was it was yesterday. I think it was yesterday. And I was at the bar for Father's Day. I don't know her name is or what her name is. But the lay goalkeeper was the greatest thing I've ever seen in my entirely wanted to give her a quick shout out for holding the Underdown. Yes, she faced like I don't know four hundred jots in only gave up three goals. Four three or four good for her. It was incredible three nothing victory. The greatest goal I've ever seen in my life. Be honest. Okay. So that's gambling for today. Let's do a Cup of coffee day parlay. I have the Tampa Bay rays, plus a half with Todd's backing in Gorman's non backing the Atlanta Braves minds the half, I five Houston Astros for Gorms with Todd's backing, not Ma backing. Actually, you know a game line. I probably would've went Astros, but first, five sick and with my read, you know what I mean? Taught has the under reds and Astros. First five and then has the angels money line. I five Edwin Jackson that we got a nice little say, just nice little five team today. Let's start the week off. It's not just fucking jump back in the deep end. We come in here. We do it. We supposed to do and we make the people money, nice five dollars to win a coal hundred. How about? Five to win a court. We do that for everybody to think about doing for everybody. Also something about doing for us. Subscribe rate review. We've gotten a lot of good feedback on the thirty two teams appreciates that thirty two days ish, we roll through that today with Gorms and Todd's team Indianapolis Colts. Enjoy that and good luck. Good luck. Joining us today on our continued journey of our thirty two teams and thirty two days issue. And if L preview where welcoming zek Keefer from the Indy star like this guy, Joe, I know you record you recommend. I like this guy stern but fair, thank he always throws me off. Like I was in the middle of something there. And he just always jumps, but fares Keefer the goal. Right. That's what everyone wants to be described out Dern. But there I mean, and also, you wrote my favorite article of the year, Heffer sure by the way, I've read two articles this year, and you by far the best one of the two that I read about. So thank you for writing that. And also, you're, you're an adjunct professor at I do care. They won't call you professor. Can we are you, John? John Clayton of the colts. No. The students do. And it's really awkward. And they call me, Mr. Keefer which is equally as awkward. So I was rather just like to go by that. But foot professor works for maybe the duration of this referred to me that the online. Yeah, please professor, I will start with the first question, and then I'm pretty much going to turn it over to Todd and Gorman because Todd is a lifelong colts fan Gorman, I guess worked with the colts in some capacity. Don't believe everything you read Tony secretary or something. Colts over under for the season. Set by Vegas is at nine and a half wins. How do you feel about that? Jumping right in. They're going to be over that, and I can tell you why they're going to be a lot better team this year. I don't necessarily know that they're going to have a better record than they did last year. But they can go ten six the same record. They had last year and be a better team if you know what I mean. Yeah. Sure. Look, I mean, you guys know this how many times has a team have everybody back from the year before it's very, very rare in this league we call not only have that, but they've upgraded to position the need. They added a wide receiver and Devon funches who's big long who will give them something. They didn't have last year. If you remember they were really really short on wide receivers at bless your behind by Hilton. They was like who's gonna step up Dontrelle, Inman did. But they added funches and they ended a guy who's just like straight up scary to look at on the football field. Justin, houston. You've spent his career in Kansas City, he's got seventy eight sacks. He comes in, and you know, when you just walk out onto a football field and you just see a guy that's just scary to look at. That's my reaction. Scene. Joosten last couple of weeks at OT as and minicamp. He's gonna add some punch, and they haven't had in the pass rushing department since really the days of rubber Mathis when he was reckon offense of line. So I'm thinking the over I think they're going to be a better team. The biggest question that we have yet to answer is can they hold up against these really, really stud quarterbacks. They didn't feel a lot of them last year. I think really the only one they saw was Tom Brady this year. They're going to see a ton of starts with Philip rivers. They see Matt Ryan early. They see Ben Rothlisberger, and they see Patrick Mahomes, corks them in the playoffs. All right. So I'm gonna start off with this. Is Eric E Bron a one year wonder or all the fans completely full of shit? He's the real deal and I-. I preface that by saying you began with Devin funchess I could see him becoming the new red zone target in that limiting what we see from e Brown compared to last year. So just let loose on a fair question. The only thing you're forgetting Frank like Frank Reich loves tied and he loves them like you love your firstborn child. He he's gonna get Jack Doyle his touches, and he's gonna get air Brown touches, I don't think Hebron has the wow stats that he had last year just because it was almost a stork. I mean, the dude many had almost hit the most touchdowns by co side in history, brookdale Clark's record because there's only one football go around this year, you had to funches you had a healthy t y Hilton who wasn't even healthy last year at the end of the year. Remember he was playing with a high ankle sprain a low ankle sprain. You add funches you had you know Jack Doyle back in the fold and, and I might be alone in this, but I think Jack Doyle was like third or fourth best player on this entire team. I so damn defendable just your offense is completely different when he's back in there and this is the other thing that that may begin hurt Ebro touchdown numbers. They're going to be a running team this year. At least more than they have in the path. I mean, this, let's be top five rushing team this year, that's a stated goal that they have said over and over and over this off season. So believe that so if you're thinking that maybe I should draft one of the colts and saying this fantasy this year like down the line third or fourth round, maybe Marlin maxa guy because I think he's gonna have a big year if he stays healthy exact, let's talk about this rookie class, if there is another derrius Leonard, and I know that's a big, if but who so far has impressed you as what he's doing on the field and in the classroom. Whoa. The next area Leonard. I mean that guy I remember the first day of training camp last year. We didn't see him at all. And mckee. We didn't team it all in the summer at all. And we didn't know anything about this guy, and the first day do look under throws a path, and this guy, wearing number fifty three falls backward and makes this ridiculous interception and turn to the guy next to me and said. Holy crap. This guy might be really good. And I still didn't see NFL high in tackles and defensive rookie of the year season. But the guy I really like is the first pick the second rounder wrong, you thin. I mean first of all, if your name's rocky sin gotta be pretty bad outplay. Right. I mean that's a heck of a name he made an interception in every session, we've watched this year. Granted, we're not out there every day. But this kid has athlete a trait in a physical playing style that's gonna work at this level and he's playing a really tough position for rookies. I mean rookie cornerback that's really tough. Because the quarterbacks are better receivers are a lot better. But he's got what you see. And he's very polite. And he sounds like there is Leonard. And he says. Yes, sir. No, sir. And I think he gets it. I think that matters, I think that humility is something that's really healthy areas, come from where he's come from to become what he is. It's gonna be fun to watch thirty four. That's rockets number over. The next couple of years. I think he's going to be I think he's gonna be a tough corner to go up against for a long time in the AFC south Zach you sending earlier a lot of this team is the same from last year. It doesn't happen very often in the NFL, so who needs to step up this year in your eyes to make a difference. Or is it living up to expectations so far? That's a good question. I haven't really thought about that in that in that way one, I'll give you one. The question 'cause you wanted to do well, I wanted to tell on them, but I'm not going to but. Maliki cooker. Yeah, totally fair. And I'll tell you this like he's got crazy talent. We've seen it in flashes. I'm willing to wash away twenty eighteen because he wasn't himself until November December that ACL tear just is just you're just not the same player in cold scenes, need to know this, whether they want to accept it or not the young chain is not going to be young chain until, like November. And I know it's going to be hard to wait because this dude was insanely talented last year during training camp before he towards ACL. And I know he's probably gonna be full go when turning camps starts. But he's not going to be the same player so I wouldn't panic if you don't see him making those wild catches that he was making last year. You're excited Keefer you're excited about that kid, admit it. Oh if you if if you were in Westfield last year, you'd be excited to these were like sportscenter top ten plays every day for like two week Llamas. More excited about Dion Cain when he's fully back and healthy or Paris cable. Yeah. Paris Campbell the slot. Hey, what wasn't I love Hines there? I'm a big Hines guy. But this guy's different, right? Yeah. This is a guy, I'm going to watch every single day at training can't. They're gonna move him around allow we've already seen it. We've already seen him Brunson. Reverses. I mean we watched rookie mini camp and grain of either a lot of guys aren't gonna play in the league bitter early in may. But cable was the best player in the field by far. He was running outside inside. It was very, very clear that fifteen was the best player. They're gonna move him around, but I know I mean you see in the text message Frank Reich sent after they drafted him. There were a lot of exclamation point. Dieted to have him. I know that what about bin benigo? What do you think? Yeah. I mean where's this position? They're trying to figure that out even the Sam linebacker but they see too much pass rush right now. So they moved him up to the line. You doing a smart thing. He's really listening to Justice Houston. He's taking not that can questions stealing moves some Justin Houston. And they just see too much get off from him in like what the colts ather passos's to do is just really simple. Just go get the quarterback. It's not nearly as complicated as what was doing TCU, which was reading react. He's got all the traits. They might have overdrafted him a little bit terms of a lot of pundits is. But if you see some flashes from this guy earn the season. That's a really good sign moving forward. He could be a pass rusher of the future for this team. Exactly. You concerned at all. We got the Paris Campbell's, we're talking about Devin funchess in particular that. No. Andrew luck because of the calf strain, that had is that something that you're looking at as they he needs to get rolling, so they can get on, you know, on timing with the quarter. Bac. Zero concern. Absolutely zero. I feel like after these shoulder surgery. I'm like just like Andrew lucked after being through that hell for three or four years. Same goes with Mike wells and Stephen holder, Mike Chaplin all the guys who covered it. Luckil- be good to go for the first day of camp. They've got six weeks of camp. He'll be fine that got plenty of ball with Roe in. If, if Devin funchess can't get on the same page with luck, then he'll just go to Jack Doyle, or just go to e broad. I mean that's just how it's gonna work luck will be really sharp. Kobe perset did not have a good minicamp, at least in my mind and it's going to be different. It's gonna be different when luck it's in there, because everybody is going to be right on the money as my Chaz Kelly gonna get the third third quarterback spot. Jed Kelley can wing it. Got an arm. He can never was never been as issue. Never been the issue. He's got to stay at a trouble this summer. And I think you'll have a good shot, but they do really like Phillip Walker. But I'll tell you straight up like just watching the football on the field. The last month. Check Kelly has a better arm than Phillip Walker. So I could see him earning that third job Andrew luck or so, similar, as humans could see them getting along really. Well, you know, go many similarities, so many hours. Become his so Andrew luck his his leadership gets questioned. It sometimes don't do it. Don't do it. Tony don't question later. The personality Steeler fan. Come on to be a leader. So are you asking me is he paid manning? No, no, no, no. I know he's not that but like is he fiery enough? Or do you even need to be fired for show enough? I, I know he's fire him yell and stuff like that. It's just I don't know. There's just something about as a cult fan. I find this very fair question. No, you're totally fine. I'm with you. And I can tell you what players have told me. I mean so you go back to Houston last year, they're week four and they lose that game in overtime and Matt slauson the veteran guard comes up to me after the games look exploded on. He exploded and ripped into his offense of line. So that's something you don't hear about often. Look kinda does this stuff behind the scene. Okay. What he's not yelling. Donald Brown for missing a block like Peyton Manning playoff game in a in a week later, they were in New England. And he's walking down the lane and he's yelling. We are better than this, whether getting beat pretty handily by the they came back in that game they've actually lost. And then you go to the giants game in week sixteen. They play flat sleepless in the first half. They're down to a badge on team and look, basically took over the halftime speech and just ripped into. So these are the things you don't hear about a lot looks not gonna tell you about it, Franks, not gonna tell you about it. But if you ask enough guys in the locker, there moments like this, where he exudes that sort of quarterback leadership role that I think a lot of people assume quarterbacks have to take on he's afraid to rip into his teammates. I think there's a little bit more of that than people see. Oh, yeah. Trust me. I remember. I remember that giant's game because there was a lot of playoff implications for a lot of teams in the AFC that week and that comeback. And if you remember they didn't come on the field until, like a minute was left Ireland? That's 'cause they were getting ripped into you by twelve love it. Hey, that's a good sign. Because those are the things that you don't hear about all the time. But our actions actually very good here. If you're a colts fan, I think, and we have absolutely I wanna say this, and then I have nothing else for you, but Frank Reich. And Chris Ballard, we have been fortunate enough to be able to to fall in love with them because they so many times they've been so gracious in in giving him time. And it's been wonderful. But I just feel like I'm an ex military guy. I'm like these are two guys that you always feel like leaders our leadership is earned. It's not it's not given right. And these two guys that you would charge a hill for just because you don't want to let them down. You know, I mean, I think they exude that type of leadership. Quality, and it's like I don't wanna let these guys down there. They're just they care so much about me, the care so much about winning. I will feel bad if I don't play good this week. Yeah, you're you're spot on and it's very unique. I mean, Frank Reich have this quiet confidence. That's really hard to put into words, but I can see it. I mean this guy was they were one in five, and I remember walking sort of out of the locker room with him in New England. And this was an off the record conversation, but he just had his confidence that, like, look, we're good football team. We're gonna make a couple more plays in these games we're gonna turn this thing around. And that that's guy who's one in five of the head coach. And then you saw it happen week after week. And you saw the team buy into. So I think the one guy who deserves a lot of credit in this in. And I'm not I'm not just saying this to say it, but shimmer sake jimmer say went out and he hired Chris Ballard, any invalid that I'm not taking this job, unless I get the time and the patience and the investment, I need to, to get this right and Ballard new on day one that he needed to tear down this roster and you can see the remnants of the previous era. I mean, there's like. Less than ten guys left. It's completely remade. They've got so many young players that have been drafted and signed. And then there's like yesterday where they resigned guy, they didn't need to resign at this point, there's no reason if your team you need to resign Kenny more yesterday. They could've waited a year or two to get this done team had all the control but it sends a message to the locker room about what they wanna be about. And they wanna be about guys like Kenny Moore, who were tough as nails, who was an eleventh hour waiver claim who's coming in and become the second best player in that defense behind areas Leonard that sort of speaks to what they're trying to do here. And I think Chris, and Frank our offense enough, and there's not that many guys in this league that are like that, that are not full of you know what I think the players buy into that. And I think the fans are starting to see how rare these guys are Zac. Give me your expectations on the offensive line this year. I think the focus the focus is going to be the run game. It's gonna be fun to watch a guy that doesn't get a lot of that's fantastic is Lewinsky at right guard. I mean he's just like moves people and the other guy I think is, is one of the most underrated players football is Ryan. Kelly Nelson gets all the highlights. Nelson gets all the love. And he's fantastic. But Ryan Kelly's really, really good center. And I think estan that was probably the most underappreciated, coal like the ten years. I mean fans love to rip them but he's been fantastic at a really hard position the last two seasons. So I'm excited to watch this group. They are finally sort of, they finally have some carryover like it's going to be the same five guys this year was last year, and that hasn't happened in, like four ever Mike, Chappell until you probably the last time that happened. He was probably covering the Peyton Manning years, but it's gonna be fun to watch this team because they didn't end. Well, if you go back to Kansas City they played pretty poorly in that game. And that left a bad taste in their mouth and with the new position coach. It's gonna be fun to watch that unit improve upon what they did last year because they allowed the few. Thanks last year. If you remember fun fact for the colts, and I'm excited about this, and this will play into it. Fun fact time can't wait. Tom rathman running backs coach of the colts. He knows a thing or two about winning a Super Bowl and blocking for the great Roger Craig, I'm sorry. But that tickled my fancy. No one knows any of those people nineteen eighty nine nineteen ninety San Francisco forty Niners. Come on young or ups made. Another fact, they call it a photo of Conrad and played football just Google photo him with forty Niners. And it just looks like what a football player, neck roll neck, those old school, you've got the neck pad up his helmet. It just looks like a guy, you do not want to try and blah. I love Zach before we let you out of here. We always ask one last question. But this popped up on my feet. Have you seen the the robotic quarterback that the colts have it at the fuck, contrary to canon? Oh, gosh. I forgot about this. But I have. Yeah, it just popped up. My feet looks at say it's kind of creepy thrown out, right. Throws. Strikes? This is so there's no, the only way to simulate Andrew. Cap doesn't work out in campus the next. They signed him as a backup. All right. So we get everyone out of here on the same question we make you pick that week one game. Oh in LA. LA. Well, it's, it's not even it's not it really there's no home field advantage for the chargers. But the colts are plus three at the LA chargers. How do you feel about that game? I might go with the chargers, because I think they're really good and brow realized they're playing like what a sixteen thousand seats. Aim of the culture just really bad and openers until they change that I'm gonna go with the chargers. I think I'd take the cold against like twenty six of the NFL teams right now. But I think the chargers are few are one of the few teams I might pick for that game. I respect your honest opinion. Our listeners will respect your but I'm not have. We're not having a mind anymore after that pick. I got news for you. All right. Just so you can call me whatever you want. But you cannot call me a Homer stored. Fair and stern news. Zack Gordon's does not make those decisions. Don't worry about that. We appreciate us. We push you so much for coming on. Thank you very much once again. Z Z Keefer on Twitter. Check him out at the Indy star. And he's. Okay. Thanks guys. This is a lot of fun. Thanks. Eskin.

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A Chat With Chris Bassitt

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A Chat With Chris Bassitt

"What if there were a podcast just history class except five minutes long and fun? I'm King Kaufman. I think there is one. It's not your century. Join me for it. Wherever you get your podcasts? Hello and welcome to as plus the San Francisco Chronicle's podcast on the Oakland A.'s. And in Major League Baseball I'm your host chronicle as beat writer Susan's lesser and today. Our guest is as pitcher. Chris Bassett who will talk to us about his outlook. Look for twenty twenty his thoughts on the team as a whole and what he and the other as pitchers have been hearing about Houston hitters for some time. Now all of that coming up on as plus today on as plus our guest is as pitcher. Chris Bassett back for another season. You're one of the longer tenured as players at this point. I thank you and markets Marcus. WHO's GonNa last longer? I guess I don't know I guess we'll see. I think you've got more service time left. So Gaffe What's your outlook? Just in general going into the season. 'cause obviously you guys are coming off of two ninety seven win season road to wild card appearances and essentially you have the core group returning. Yeah I think it's basically we have to step forward of getting in kind of past the wildcard game pushing it went into division Just doing more damage in the postseason Obviously the success. We've had the the last two years gooding great but we're expecting a lot more this year. Well it's going to kind of save it for later in ease into the Astros topic could just kind of like you know. But everybody's I've been talking about the last few months but when you talk about winning the division they're the team that won the division last two years the fact that they got caught up in this cheating scandal and have been punished for it. Does that potentially impact the division. This season does that. Convert them in some ways that might You know kind of trickle down for for their success rate eight I. I really don't know that it's all it's all going to depend. I think on their team chemistry and how they can really handle that I think we can't really worry about that. That much and we got to really take care of her own thing for if we're worrying about them. wherefore spending our energy on what their punishment are or what their outlook is then? I think we're doing ourselves a disservice so I think yeah we just worry about yourself. Obviously Mike Fires- your teammate was kind of at the center of this as the one guy who spoke publicly about allegations There were other people who spoke to the League which I think kind it gets lost in this. He's the one guy who's put his face to it. What kind of reaction when you saw that in what's been the reaction to Mike With with all of you guys with all teammates. I think we're all supportive of Mike. I think I mean we we've heard of players coming out and saying they were doing this. But we've I heard for three four years of organizations calling vasteras out and nothing happened so I think he got to a point where someone had a step up and it was just an unfortunate situation where I guess Mike was the Guinea pig this whole entire thing and I it. It sucks for Mike Annoys dealt with a lot lot on. So we're all just trying to be there for him as a pitcher particularly when you look at those allegations and obviously you've been hearing them for a while and I know a lot of guys had actually actually heard banging in previous years and things like that. How difficult just in general is something like that for a pitcher to deal with while you're actually on the mound and maybe having to deal with multiple signs and changes and you know from maybe even any inning game to game things like that? How how tough? I think we had a lot of knowledge. Knowledge of what was going on for years. So I think just the headache of having to go through all that Play them multiple signs. No one's on Bass multiple signs constantly mixing up signs. When no one's I'm based and then we're we're getting instructed to Kinda speed games up happen inside like it's Dang near impossible to do that? You mean we kind of we kinda laugh. Edwin Jackson and a five hour game or something versus the Astros and yes and that was kind of the reason why was he. He knew what was going on. Everyone knew it was going on is like I'm not going to get beat by this and I it's just it's it's which is a whole thing's an unfortunate thing. That should have never happened so over the last few years I I do recall a lot of pitchers after some game saying. I don't know what's going and this this wasn't even it wasn't just the Astros that I was hearing this but more often during guys saying I think I might be pitching tip. Tipping my pitches but then I looked at the video and not seeing what I'm doing doing. How do you think this was more than the Astros was at? Maybe more prevalent like I just journal. That seems like a very frustrating thing for a pitcher as if he thinks you're not getting the reactions actions are expecting on pitches. And then you can't figure out why Who knows how how many organizations were doing something summer this? I'm just very very glad that I was putting that situation. In Oakland. I know with Bowman Alan. Mo and bushy. In those guys we do stuff the right way a year and I am very blessed and very thankful that I was not put in that situation because I I I've talked. We've all talked about if we got traded over and what we would have done personally and it's it's hard to say really is So that I'm extremely grateful to be here ear and not being in the middle of that right and hopefully everything's been cleaned up. Technology continues to kind of take over every sport but baseball in particular. It seems like there's talk about now Robo which I think you guys are going to see this spring and some wearable technologies and things like that so I'm sure there's always gonNA be some teams looking for edge somehow and and things like that but I feel like maybe we should just move on and talk about the real baseball. 'cause you're in an interesting situation. You always seem to be an interesting soon situation going into every spring partly because you are so versatile and you've made yourself more versatile I league with more than anything your attitude and your maturity But this year it looks like unlike last year that there are five pretty set starters and that means you wind up maybe in a bullpen role. Maybe maybe a six starter maybe doing the piggybacking thing. Whatever how do you see things Honestly don't know and I don't really WanNa think about what's going to happen just because springs going to handle itself where it's GonNa all work itself out but I'm just more so excited just to kind of I'll be in the spot physically so beaumont can be listened. It don't matter which route we go I know I can trust him in any situation. That's really really do there. With when you look at the pitching staff a whole Ciccarelli the rotation and some of the other options you Daniel Maiden You know some of the guys in the minors Jeffries in camp and a few other guys. What do you think just in general of the group that you have talent level? Yeah I think if you're not excited about our five six seven starters that we have not really in tune with what's going on because I think our starting staff could push anyone starting staff so That that part is very exciting and then you obviously have a lot of pretty pretty. Dang good bullpen arms. So our pitching should be a lot of fun washer coming up after this short break Chris Bassett and I will continue your conversation. We'll discuss how the as potentially not having a veteran catcher might impact the pitching staff and more on his adjustment to any role in the bullpen. If you've been listening to San Francisco City insider you heard from Jason Bodine months before his surprise election as the city's. Da You you've heard from the most loved librarian in the country and you heard from the man who wants to remake Muny. I'm chronicle columnist. Heather Knight get to know the people who make San Francisco tick and see if you approve of their burrito choices on San Francisco city insider. Now you don't have a veteran catcher this year which is a little unusual joie adjust vaguely who came over with you and was one of the few longer tenured as is now gone You do have young guys certainly You came very familiar with Sean Murphy Murphy. Is it a little tougher for pitching staff when there isn't like a veteran guy. I know that there's a possibility. Of course they could go out and sign somebody or make a trade for somebody but right now we're talking right. It's a very young catching yeah. I think Murph's skills will kind of outweigh veteran veteran. Just because of how good he is as long as he stays healthy as obviously been messed up with some random injuries but if he stays healthy it don't matter what year and how much service time he has he's he's one of the most special catchers in the bay leaves on beacon that I do anything so I think just more so just getting on the same page is ham for all in the whole entire Staff and just learning he likes this pitches here. This fish is there Here's his strengths weaknesses. That part will take some time which were springs. That's what springs forward but you if you're bringing a veteran that's gonna be the same as I think. So I think I think murph skill said really kind of outweighs everything How was your off season? Did you do anything different. Unusual legit like personally personally and professionally. How are your workouts? Did you do anything fun. Obviously have a new baby at home. the new baby Kind of controlled everything where where it was working out uh-huh and going home and helping the baby and that was. That was my whole off season which I still I loved it. I love being a dad and a definitely put everything into in in perspective. A whole heck of a lot more so Yeah I mean it's baseball and baby and that's it so yeah And how are you feeling physically and ready to go. Are you off the mound yet. Yeah I feel I feel great Extremely excited for this spring just to see how it goes where it goes Physically I feel great I feel ready And obviously we'll see getting built up or when I'm getting billed built up to it just it's a fun. It's the game within the game kind of thing. Scottish Emerson was telling me that last offseason at one point you called him and said essentially like a pitch in any role like just pitch me anytime. I just want to Yeah I think I think I mean it's kind of public I mean in the past Kinda thought I thought this just because I knew I knew going into pro ball I could do either one I could I could be a bullpen guy can be a starter but in the past I wanted to know what Sh- role I was well then last year just having conversations with email and Beaumont and stuff like that. I guess I'm more recognized. Understood my value might be doing both in the same year or even the same same same two weeks so kind of embracing that aspect of of not knowing a starter reliever whatever it may be. It's it's it's kind of taken a lot of pressure off me kind of thing where it's just it's like I don't really care what role I'm in as long as they trust me. I am the only thing I'm doing is I'm taking tried in. Not just being do both but I want to do both at a very high level where they know. Hey he starting today but like he's like he's going to give us. It's a really good game and then like out of the bullpen. They can bring me in any role and they have. It's true confidence in me that I'm just not in the bullpen. Just sitting down there that they can bring me in. So that's what I want. Is the confidence where they can say. Listen we don't care about Raleigh's in we we know he's going to do really good It seems like baseball is starting to value. Yeah I mean obviously the the last few years utility player has taken on greater value But it seems as if the versatile pitcher is now getting recognized a little bit more organistion. Set that there. Because it used to be starters you know starters were sort of number one closer number two in terms of I dunno star power whatever and then sort of middle relief down at the bottom but now it seems like a guy who can do anything eastbound L. potatoes a great example of that one of the best in the game so it seems like that's really value. Yeah I think the utility would ever pick your PITCHER position player. Whatever may be is kind of almost lost are a little bit? where it's they're becoming more valuable just because I think they're they're becoming more rare? Just just I mean Chad Henry and him anywhere in the field and he's he's going to not only hold his own but do it at a pretty high level so so I just think it's almost a trickle trickle up effect of you have these high schoolers that are getting just prep for one position. One position only only and they're just they're not like a baseball player their third baseman. And they're not a baseball player there a second remember may be so they can't go anywhere so And then the same thing as they specialize them in college and then I said that gets a pro ball and they're like no I'm I'm a molecular and that's it like I can't go to right field field like it. Just it's a new world for some reason. So yeah I think the value of a utility guy is just becoming more and more rare. Just because of you've kind of like you said that the lower levels not developing true athletes so to speak at a lot of people I think at the end of last year. Look back and look at your urine. Aaron said Chris Facet was really key for helping the ice win. Because you were able to do that right and I mean like I said I. I'm taking a ton of of pride and just go melbounre. Trust me. Whatever he wants me to do great Christmas? Thanks so much for joining us. On as plus it. As plus part of the San Francisco Chronicle podcast network. Audrey Cooper is the editor in chief. 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249: Featuring Dan Shaughnessy

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249: Featuring Dan Shaughnessy

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Baseball writer that you guys know so much better than I do because again not to fluff up my credentials or over represent them. I grew up not in Boston I spent time as a kid in Boston, but not a lot of it was not a red sox fan, growing up was the red sox admirers, but it was not living and dying with every pitch and Dan Shaughnessy. Even though he is new englander remember he had to go away to kind of start things out. He was covering the orioles before he came back to cover the red sox and I also started out covering the Orioles doing. Pre and post game shows for them on the radio, and that led to network television baseball play by play, and then this weird Edwin Jackson maneuvering all around Major. League baseball is the play by play guy. which took me to the Red Sox and very happy to be invested in the Red Sox now happy to talk to you about them, but Dan Shaughnessy has been there and seen a lot more than I have seen so that's kind of why we want to go down that road in just a little bit. What are you guys doing to fill the void? I mean we're going to talk about that a little bit today. Because void filling is pretty much all we're doing right now. As a collective for me, you know and I I'm a bit of a nut. And I freely admit that it's not like I expect everybody can go this deep. Into, a rabbit hole and come out with the weird nonsense that I'm coming up with but that. For better or for worse, that is kind of how my brain goes so. Alrighty, that was in play with the creation of the Throwback League podcast. Which I hope you guys have found you're enjoying. That's the one where it's basically a march madness bracket of all the world series teams from Nineteen, seventy, four through two thousand six Samat large teams, and there are two we play out the season, simulating the results of all the match ups and I go into a little studio and record the games like they actually happened. Do like fake play by play with sound effects and all of that so that's been a fun project. Hopefully you've got a hold of that. The Throwback League on Itunes, spotify whatever. I'm to the point now where just to amuse myself and I'm going to go ahead and put this up on social media soon to I, gotTa jumping bean racing league starting up seriously, you guys ever have Mexican jumping beans when you were a kid. Get Him for like. Two ninety nine in a little plastic case, five little jumping beans that are basically just worms larvae inside a little shell, and they hop around because the worms are inside wiggling, trying to kind of remove them, selves from that shell-casing, trying to become a moth someday so it looks like they're hopping looks like they're jumping, and and if you make yourself a little race course, you can have some Olympic style funds so I mean it's come to that and naming the beans is kind of like where we are now from Garbanzo to to be mcbain face to meet pants and prickly Pete and I. I make No. Apologies for any of that or I don't even know how to explain that, but that's where my mind goes. I'm just curious as to how you guys are getting through, and we'll again we'll talk about that with Dan in just a moment or two when he joins the POD I. Do want to remind you to as we look again for content at this point in our lives with no NBA Nhl obviously no major league baseball. 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On the jumping bean racing league because I'm hearing good things about prickly Pete. All Right? We're GONNA have a little bit throwback kind of red sox stuff at the end of the PODCAST WANNA. Walk you down a little bit of memory lane about ten years ago. Which I think we would have been doing this year anyway. This just kind of a little heads up. Think do the math right I mean twenty twenty minus ten years. Where does that take US twenty ten? Yoon start thinking right now. What would have been? The common threat was too common denominator potentially between twenty, twenty and twenty ten. It's a two word phrase that not a lot of people in Boston light. That's your hint and we'll. We'll go there after we get done. Talking to Dan Shaughnessy the quality of the interview, not perfect. Nothing's perfect these days doing everything with zoom calls, and at least we've now all. We have to wear pants when we. Do Zoom calls because you never know what's going to happen. In terms of the camera panning down in advertently, or you know who's GonNa? Walk into your call, so technology technology wise is that how I'm supposed to say that technologically I guess is where I was going. This is not perfect is a record call with the hall of Famer Dan Shaughnessy Hope, you enjoy. All right as promised. I know everybody wants to hear them. If you haven't been reading some of you, get behind the pay wall, and for free that, and then some of you just find your way to Dan, Shaughnessy anyway because he has such a must read. And Dan first of all thanks so much for taking the time. and I don't want. Waste much time I WANNA, get right into what you most recently wrote. Which I thought was really interesting, talking about Alex Cora and if there's no regular season which by God, I hope you're you're wrong and I'm long. Hope there is one but walk me through the process because I thought you had a great point about how any very weird way. If there is a complete punting twenty twenty, the ball lands nicely for for the Red Sox. Well Yeah just it's a weird thing and again we have to qualify everything. There's nothing good is coming of this pandemic. This is a lot of suffering, and it's dad and on every level the, but as as we try to figure out how it's going to be peace back together, some of the scenarios with sports. Reduced Seasons and and of course draconian for baseball twenty twenty would be no season and I haven't ruled out anything. Anything yet. I don't think they have either, but in any event Hopefully it doesn't come to that, but it occurred to me that for the Boston Red Sox. No season would would might be possible I've come in from a competitive standpoint only in that I mean they traded Mochi. Bessinger hammered for it. If there's no season, they ended up getting three players three prospects. What have you in exchange for nothing I mean the guy. Because of the rules of service time, they're gonNA. That's GONNA be a free agent after this year anyway, so they not Delton. They would've gotten zero for a player who was GONNA be gone at the end of the year or for the end of the year, so you kinda fallen into it that way and obviously with Chris Sale. He just had his Tommy John Surgery. Which means they're going without him for fourteen fifteen months well, the last games that are played in that stretch, the better the Red Sox, and that sense was. It's pure games. They have to go to battle without their best pitcher. So if there were no season, he would only lose two or three months of next year, and not all this year, so it's a it's a weird kind of backwards way of thinking. And then the court thing occurred to me. They love outscore. The players love him. The owners love him. FANS SPLIT, but. Still Love Him and his penalty punishments won't be. Adjudicated until the next cheating scandal from the eighteen SOx comes out. That's when I'll be will tell us what core I guess for his involvement with the seventeen astros any eighteen red sox. And in the event that he only gets a year end, there's no season I believe. The Red sox would bring it back as a manager, he would never miss a game so sort of again perverse way of thinking of it that Alice core could be a continuous manager for them and never have this time. It really is I know we're in such a land of what if right now and by the way you had a great line here, talking about how inadvertently Boston's buffoonery could become brilliant and kind of pointed towards the the what if of no twenty twenty the other thing and you hinted at this as well if there is no twenty twenty and again I put. Put the caveat out there strongly. We all hope there is they modified twenty twenty somehow, but you look ahead, and now there's some time to patch together actual real live, pitching staff, and not this Hodgepodge of Ryan. Weber and whatever else they were to try to do. In twenty twenty right I mean that's a big deal. You still have to find some arm. Yeah I just feel time. Is Their Friends in this? In this case because what I saw in spring training I spent three or four weeks down there. They weren't ready for the season. It's just was a five hundred team at best, and it just looks like they were going to be very. with their lack of starting pitching sales down you being part of this, they having given away price for some of those free agent. And what we saw and sales goes down I mean the the top three or all gone. And I you know one of the. myrtles tomorrow. Argument is that they don't get to. They would have to continue to be under the tax especially. If there's no season 'cause, they would not be able to reset. For Twenty twenty one without the penalties, so they could not go out and spend, but you could put together a better. More representative rotation in you had some kind of play with and then what they have now. I mean they're. They're headed for a fall in twenty twenty. That was pretty clear. And Short and seasons help always help the worst teams 'cause. It's more random outcomes in abbreviated season, so they're already. Kind of competitively gaining from from not having to do the one sixty two. But I just think that. They, the more time they have to piece together a respectable. Starting rotation would only help, and and you know we didn't mention but I do also. Who's got a fracture in his back. He was the one major league player they got in the. In the that's priced salaried, and he's not available for the start of the season. He couldn't playing spring training. Because of the factors is back so. Again Delay Delay Helps Boston's in terms of having. An actual player in exchange for bets longer this goes. Flashing back just a little bit Dan because that's really all we're left with now is back right. I mean there's been this renaissance. Baseball's establsihed these last couple of weeks. Because that's all got you and I are taping this on April sixth and to go back. One year I'm just thinking I. Know where I was able sick last year I was in Phoenix, watching the red sox get out to to start coming off a world series year. was kind of dorking around looking things up. I was waiting for that to get on the phone together. April sticks nine years ago. Manny Ramirez played his last ever game. And They Tampa, Bay Ray and we're God. He was even on the Tampa Bay rays. Seventeen five games that stars and season, and if thirty nine years older hung it up so on this. Play because again. That's what we're left with now. I WANNA have about a couple of guys. GOTCHA BANNEY is one I've got. You covered some weird cats in your day. You know you got a weird nickname from Carl Everett you got all kinds of guys? You have to interact with and so I. Ask you a curly headedness right now, if we celebrate, I guess the nine year anniversary of manny hanging up GimMe Your Manny Balaji fifty seconds her last. Hulme, God I mean you know see the ball hit the ball and he was the greatest right handed hitter since Jimmie Foxx probably I. It was really impressive what he could do. I feel bad about the cheating and testing positive three times, and I talked to me about that and he feels badly, too, and I think he's trying to get into Allen. All that sort of thing I'm not sure how sincere. Whether, he would do it again if he could but. It's unfortunate that he had all the all the cheating to go along with it. Because as a pure hitter, I mean really he was already hitter. 'cause I've seen. So. Let me stay on the weird guys that that you've covered. And again we're clash talented at Coral Everett obviously came to my mind. It's been a long time since I've even thought about him to be honest with you. Just get you on the phone. I guess kind of triggered that. But where did you leave? What was your last conversation with Carl ever. Boy, I mean that was oh one. Is is the year that the head button stuff with Ron Copa. I feel like. That might have been ninety nine. I can't remember, but then. and then the Olympics in two thousand. He dropped the curly haired boyfriend on Gordon. In reference to me, which I think Micra hate speech but I'm not sure and. And it was unfortunate. You know he wasn't really he wasn't the devil. You know. He could be a very charming guy. He was a great freehand cartoonist, and and you know could be very affable. I really think it was the mets thing with him that he would go out. And that's and and we have these nut clusters because it. When when things were bad, it'd be a lot of bad like back to back to back. And then it'd be stretches where there was nothing really think it had to do with medication, but there was there was a darkness to him. It's just you know wasn't good. I mean one of the few times when you could see. The teammates were afraid of them. And that's that's unusual. Usually, if the guy's killing the media, everybody's really into it, 'cause. It's like why not. In this instance watched that video of him going after culprit. Out that I mean no one wants to the he. Just guys were scared of you. Had the same experience with with not with Carl actually always got along with okay, but those Bradley. What was that guy for me? Oh, yeah, just a hell. Of You. Well yeah, but there's some dads, whatever the opposite of glimmer is. Don't really sure what the word is, but that's. In the is where you're like Oh. And I was there in Kansas City where he charged up into that press box. You know how that happened in Kansas. City is all fair. Through lining bears, and you know in full uniform up there wanting to challenge. That they. Really here. I WANNA. Ask You about another guy that you and I both come in contact with. Sinn for down this. Road here curt. Schilling is a guy that I knew in a minor league that was in Rochester coming up. I was twenty one years old doing my birth year of baseball fulltime and Kurt. Was You talk about a wild child I? Mean this is right around the time. He was paying his hair green. You know Frank. Robinson Poland don't ever do that again. you know he? He's just a sip behind me on the little commuter python on allegheny airlines with remember allegany. Through it happened to. You know he's going to lead O or whatever to providence to play. But he would sit behind me and make little spit balls and put them in. Life really headed. Here you know if I get off the plane and have like a thousand pitfalls in my ear. That might Kurt showing What was your? Curt Schilling because obviously. We've all got on curt schilling these days, but while you were covering him, what would? To you, I, was surprised I really thought I was going to enjoy it. And I was all for the deal. I wouldn't be picking up to Stud righty anchor rotation guy and they already had so many good ones so. And then you know I, remember him from the old one world series when he was, you know the whole mystique and order, and he's it up media there. Pedro Gomez hated them, and that gave me some pause. and I should been more into it and I think that Kurt would pick out one guy in every city and make him the devil and it was Pedro there, and it was me here and I was unaware of this that he was. He was gonNA make the. Target coming in and and it was bad from the start, and I'm like. Why is this guy? It! I mean again, it was very. There were politicians who will do this. It's it's. It's Danes favorite. To blasted media and encourage new, and so he would. He. He figured you know crapping all over me. Out of a jump would increase days, and it did and you know mostly. His pitching is performance was great and I never took anything away from that I. Mean he was? He was the greatest strike machine, the twentieth century, and all those things, but I i. it was that with us from the start, and and and now it's like I just have no use I think. He's a society I I hope he stays off the Internet and just. Just keeps quiet so that's that's where it is with him. There's a sadness I think they're too I mean I know you're. A bit of an impasse like like I am sometimes where you really do Kinda feel for guys when they're obviously just Kinda gone. You know and. I think about Aubrey Huff for example right now I don't know. But you know. So you know I mean you. You can't even I mean. It's like you just Kinda. Winston almost WANNA turn away. Courtesy of Crisco Hall of fame next year. And you know so. That's that's he's really. That's GONNA be interesting on all levels of course right now we're in the middle of the pandemic. Roll forward, but he's getting in and and that'll be. I just hope he I hope he's a haze. And and is he has a he. He loves and respects baseball, and that should be enough to to bring him around I hope. Yeah you actually bring up an interesting side point here. Because what better forum is he ever going to have and that podium in Cooperstown? So you hope they use it somewhat responsibly I. That finishing with Shaughnessy and I've actually were on. Baseball question for you Dan, but before I leave this weird tractor. We kind of stumbled onto. It dawned on me I'm sitting here thinking guys in my career which you know, the door by your career, I don't want to pretend you an ir that same level, but. When you deal with guys in the clubhouse, and you're more of a writer broadcaster I. Mean So. There's GonNa always gonNA. Be that disparity in terms of how often you have to interact with guys. But someone that I was just truly frightened to fly in the clubhouse. It's only happened once to me in my career and I'll tell you who it was it was. When he was with the Rangers you talk about a guy who gave bribe like this one guy. I would never WANNA make upset because not like you know we're GONNA throw down face to face, but he might know people that really make my life very nervous. You know that kind of thing so I'm just curious doesn't have to be a big name or anything like that but it. There have been times you were baseball career where you're thinking. Wow, you know what I've seen. This guy's again. That's flicker in his eyes and I just I don't even want to deal with this guy. He's scared. Yeah I. Had those with a lot of you know. I had that was rice early on ahead of with bogs. Mo Vaughn. But you know always ended up, okay? Like I love Bosnia. We hang out of cooperstown and all that stuff. That's great. And you most very very great now. The apologize later, but there was some some rice. It's very. Cordial Professional, so they've all come around, but there were moments with each of them when I I did. Did you know think about my safety for a moment but? Cooler heads prevailed. Thank goodness so. You kind of segues beautifully into my last line of question for you, which is how are we going to figure out what's next on the field here? I mean there are smart people working on this yet, but it's tough here. On April staples seventh whenever people are listening to this to envision normalcy in any walk of life right now, let alone the in between the lines on a baseball field, so it your best guest and because I know you're you're plugged in, but you're also simply a smart guy. Has Everybody talking I. Don't know I'm sure they'll figure something out by the fourth of July. Or you in that camp, and if they do figure something out by them, what's IT GONNA? Look like? You know! I hope so I'm it's. I've underestimated this pretty much every step of the way and. Some kind of out of the prediction business, but it just nothing surprised me at this point, but I really i. mean. America's just I don't know how long America can tolerate it, but. We gotta keep thinking safety I and and. And it's it's just GONNA be a different world when you get out there. The sooner the better, but I'm not optimistic. One last one for you I. got you Dan Because I was just? I've got I think three of your books in my bookshelf. I won't tell you which three. It's like that new Internet thing that everybody's gotTa pick. which three of nine that they always whether it's the candy bar or whatever but. Here we are to the point where I I'm guessing that the first one he wrote was probably easily what twenty years ago and I know they're all your children. You can't pick a favorite one good. That would be insane, but is there one when you look at your own bookshelf of what you put out there? Is there one that you would point to? Earth? Is someone wherever to ask you. Hey, Gimme recommendation of a book that you wrote. If, you're a SOx Fan. You know like the Francona both. I was really happy with, and and so was he Everybody wrote books on the Red Sox winning the world series so. I was working on nine, reversing the curse which. Again it's all in there, and if your specialty you. That's all there in there and I, did a book called senior year. It's GONNA parenting memoir. High School. Sports than now. Those those kind of mine and the cost of. Served as well, so can't. Dispute that one, but yeah, thank you. No thank you because you actually name the ones that are in my book shelves. On the right track. Then very best friend and thank you. Stay strong best that you can, and we'll hopefully catch up when there's an actual baseball talk about. So thank you josh. 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Erectile dysfunction used to be a tough tackle, but now there is Roman so complete the online visit today connect with Dr and get it taken care of Roman dot com slash socks. That is your call to action. So as we Kinda, get down towards the end of this week's SOx beat. And humble apologies that there's not more to talk about We went through whatever there was to go through that. It's actually baseball related with Dan, but. To take you back a little bit. It's this talking about. What would we have been talking about? If there really was a twenty twenty season regarding the Red Sox I think we would have heard the phrase. Bridge Year quite a bit, and it wouldn't have been from high in bloom. It wouldn't have been from anybody in the red sox office, but a would probably been from the rest of us because if you go back was actually October of two thousand nine that Theo actually put that out there for the first time it was a o-9 was ninety five win season swept by the angels in the LDS, and it was time to just kind of refocused re step around some things. And how do you frame that without calling it a tear down or Redo or rebuild because it really wasn't in twenty thousand ten. However you had such a thin margin for error, and when Josh Beckett hurt his back, and won only six games when Mike Lowell had the hip surgery. Things turn very ugly in of all places, San Francisco, and late June where Pedroia, foul, the ball off his foot, clay, buckled, strained a hamstring, running the bases, Victor Martinez broke his finger getting hit by a foul tip. It was three major injuries in one series. Now is basically the torpedoed. Thank the season but theo. Epstein had called it a bridge year heading in and what he meant by that was a real good stuff was a head around the corner, because wait for twenty eleven just wait for two thousand twelve, and ironically it would be twenty thirteen. We actually all got a rise out of, but the thought was always the bridge that was built would be strong enough to compete for a pennant, even in two thousand ten, so it was a way to say we're not tearing down. You know we're. We're just kind of crossing over towards a a different. Way of doing business, but in the interim the still walkable here we can still possibly do this, but mostly due to injuries that just never happened, and by the way in two thousand eleven. You might remember. They started that your own six, and then to ten they rallied, they got to eighty three and fifty two by the end of August, and actually led the wild card race by nine and a half games, but then things started to crumble, and the got lost for good that rainy final night in Baltimore I don't have to remind you, but just to review. Tampa Bay rallied for their improbable win against the Yankees Red Sox lost on that sinking liner by Robert Andino in front of Carl, Crawford, so yeah, seven and twenty down the stretch to botch the playoffs, and then the disastrous two thousand twelve season so. Two, thousand thirteen kind of happy surprise, but I bring all of that up. Just as kind of a a wondering aloud would twenty twenty have been cast as the bridge year, and with the injuries already setting in Chris Sale obviously going off for the Tommy John and who knows what else would have come down. Would Twenty Twenty have resembled twenty ten on the field as well. I I have no idea and part of the issue that we're all in right now is we'll never know we'll never find out. We can have all the fun. We want to simulating games and dreaming dreams and kicking back and doing this. Again very happy to promote the throwback league is podcast alleged do that and here's some great names from the past it's like. Opening up a pack of baseball cards on a podcast, which is kind of how I'm pitching this thing, but none of that takes the place obviously of what would have been live baseball, and as we sign off this episode, let's all just kind of I. Guess Rally together and Coon by staying the best. We can hope above all hope that they'll find a way even if it's going to be in a very weird way to get the season going and we talked about a lot of that with Dan to the how to's. To's, it could possibly come down the road, but let's keep the faith best. We can, and without being too preachy. Let's keep being good to each other best as we can get through this very tough time. This is Josh. Lewin appreciate. You guys very much. Thanks for letting me take this thing over as we get towards the big fifty episode wise. I've frankly count for the same reason that I i. don't Really Watch my sweatpants much these days. I mean you know where we all go. And what are we doing but? Keep. Your Chin Up. Keep on downloading. I'm very appreciative. You've found the PODCAST and hopefully subscribed to it. We'll be back with another guest next week Josh Lewin. Keeping You well Boston strong from Solana Beach. California dot later.

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Silent C's

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Silent C's

"Pardon the interruption, but I'm Mike Lula. Tony. You went up big award last night. You wanna tell people all about Sony Kornheiser. It's Nasr's lifetime achievement award for jokes involving uranium. People laugh. Well, it'd be laughed like that. Nobody laughing. Lifetime achievement funny that was like Sanford and son that was amazing for like anybody that you're gonna laugh he I've always, and girls and today's episode Jaanus wins the MVP more Mets dysfunction and could the NCAA band California schools from national tournaments. But we begin today with a report of the New York Times by Mark Stein, that says the Boston Celtics have quote emerged as a stealth suitor for Kemba Walker unquote, this presumes, of course, that Kyrie Irving will be leaving Boston Al Horford has already left will bind the Celtics land, Kemba Walker. Will that make them contenders? Not, not, not alone. No. I mean it's about losing Horford and losing Kyrie. He's two players to clear that the opposite positions on the floor in terms of responsibilities and what they do. And no. And I think the Horford I think the bigger loss, because Horford, the guy who's also calming and a guy that people like to play with and go to work with and Kyrie. Not so much as it turned out. So Kimble Walker is an asset. And he's an asset that I'm sure several teams would like to have a lot of money and he can play. But by himself push the Boston Celtics past the lights of Philadelphia, Milwaukee and Toronto, no is gonna contenders doesn't mean you automatically win. Contenders means you're a group of four already, you can tell, but you would think that they would drop a little bit without hor. Yes, without congress, I'm going to establish a position here. That's the Celtics if they are not a unique team. They are very special team in this regard. And I say this with the experience of seeing what happened with Kyrie Irving. They are better as overachievers without being star Laden, they are better. They are one of the rare teams where the where the whole is bigger than some of its parts. I think they will be better without Kyrie Irving better with Kemba Walker. They had a very small guard. A couple of years ago is Ahah toss. They were really. Good or getting certainly getting on the pair of very good with Isaiah Thomas. Then they sensually bottom line. Swat him out for Tyree KENDALL Walker is also a small guard. The Walker has what I would call really effective numbers without the monstrous ego that certain star players have. So I would tell you that getting Kemba Walker puts them puts them in the contender status replacing. It's tough. It's tough corporate been adding stuff, but you talk about other teams like Toronto wise. Not there. Okay. But Philly, we don't know what they're gonna have either. We don't know anybody. We don't know about the dysfunction in Philly if that is there. And I think they'll walk here's a legit. Milwaukee's got brogden to replace if he was leaving. He's restricted they can keep. In other words, I think we were both being agreed that Kemba Walker would be a big deal he'd be a big. They need more. Big deals right now. Boston does. Tony, I think another one if possible the NBA made official last night with the regular season, may a awhile ago Jaanus onto the Coon PO is the league's most valuable player. He won by a comfortable margin over James harden. And Paul George was third. This remember is a regular season award and Janas lit team to the best record in the regular season ahead of the raptors and warriors. Tony. We know Janas has worked do he and his team lost four straight to Toronto in the playoffs. But now that he's one what do you think reasonable expectations for his career? Like I think if you look at the length and breadth of the NBA, which we can because it's not two hundred years. And it's in the modern era if you're the MVP you're expected to win you're expected to win. I'll just go through a small list of multiple and the winners, Michael, Jordan. Lebron James Kobe Bryant. Steph curry, Tim Duncan, their MVP check now. Steve Nash did not win James harden to this point has not one. Russell Westbrook to this point. Has not one, but I think the expectations on an MVP shoulders are quite large, I to me even if you don't win you better get to the finals. I think it's another little list. I mean of the ten youngest winners, the only guy who didn't win. Obviously his career was altered by injury was Derrick rose the other guys, and they became envy peas at twenty three and twenty four west unseal Bob mce do and there's a listening awhile. Moses Malone is one of those guys, I think a reasonable expectation easy for me to say is one championship, maybe getting to the finals a couple of times. But totally I will say this would give me pause. It makes me reluctant to say it. I think I think onto the Kupa is a part of the changing of the guard that you're going to have people like im- bead. It marks a new era, like LeBron took four or five years for that Iryna click in after Jordan Barclay David rob doesn't be at the front all those guys the dream team. It took Scotty took like five years is not taking five years now. I think this is the hand off of the baton. Wiz. The tick that is important when you discuss simply MVP, and what that means, there have been thirty four different winners of the MVP award, and all, but eight champions. That's a law. So this ratchets up, it does take on this kid. Yeah. And it does, and you gotta live with it. Do you think Milwaukee can handle that doesn't doesn't it start with keeping their Middleton and brogden? This start with that. I got yesterday's net story was about the manager, cursing out a reporter and apologizing for it eventually today's met stories about the general manager directing the manager to make specific pitching moves during a game. The New York Post says Brodie van wagon in the first year GM ordered Mickey Callaway to take Jacob degrom out of a recent game of the seventh inning. We'll on if this is true. Do you have any problem with GM doing I do because I'm not from the new school with somebody sits with a computer readout of numbers in manages the damn game. So I hate this. I think this is I know this is not the only place that happens. But it seems like just egomania is running rampant in the New York Mets. Clubhouse makes them even easier for me to root against to ever win a game. I mean do Graham unless degrom has some injury. We know about it. He did not. He said he did not. And if he does then you know what be at the game. You're the GM GM's do. Go on the road. I don't care if the game was an era Zona be at the game or, or sort of relinquish control immediately to the person who is at the game in the dugout. Okay. So I to me, this comes down to the organizational flow chart, if the Mets have invested, the general manager, I your general manager with your with your thority to do whatever he wants and their agreed upon that fine. If there's the split which sometimes happens, the general manager does everything up to the game starting right? And then the field manager has say if that's the way it is with the Mets, and we don't know how it is with the Mets. Then it's what I would point out is Brody van wagon was an Asian a minute ago. Now he I think he played college baseball at Stanford but he was running CAA's baseball division. His job was to procure good contracts for his stop beating Tony doesn't stop people from thinking. They know everything I talked to a general manager of a team right after recent World Series. And no, it's not the cubs and that person. Was telling me about people who have never been in professional clubhouses of any kind in any sport. And yet they have stay feel. They have just taken so much of lowering their input have that analytic that they now want to make decisions. And they've never been in a major league clubhouse. I start stunning this as a former Mets fan for many, many making Calloway cannot be the manager longer extra. He just can't be going forward. This is this is this is a complete mess. I think you can invest I do think look for the NATs micro ghosts every game I, you can invest a GM with your to do this. I don't know if that's what happened here make you. You know what's base was a lot of stuff not issues right now it seems to me and this is this is one of the I don't know is trending in a direction. I like so many, we haven't NCW story which needs examination the state of California has proposed legislation under consideration that would allow college athletes. They're earn compensation for the use of their name, image, or likeness beginning in twenty twenty three that may sound in the lighten too many, but he w president, Mark Imran implied that if the Bill becomes law, California schools could face the prospect of being prohibited from participating in NCWA championships tone. This seems like a game of chicken now. So who's going to run home off the road this to me as a really interesting almost fascinating story, I will tell you what will happen if the NCAA, and I tend to side with them in this to a degree, I do. And I'll get to that if the NCAA were to ban California schools from national championships, here's exactly what would happen, there would be a champion. Upset up in California in football between the USC and Stanford and there would be a championship set up in basketball between UCLA, and let's say, San Diego steak, and the ratings would be monstrous because they have all the best players because they're the only state in the country paying players, though, tell you think those players are coming in. This is a very important thing. Now, I side with the NCAA in this regard. I don't think you can have an NCAA, we're states rights say, we can pay you over here. But we can't pay you over. I have to come to some sort of solution. I don't think deigning schools is the particular solution. But you can't think this is that you can have that they'll get all the good players. I don't ever side with the NC double A in anything and I'm not gonna side with them here, because I'm not going to side with anybody who objects to say a university of Georgia, and I'm picking another state now but university of Georgia running back having a game where he runs twelve times for two hundred and eighty yards and. Alums booster say I'd love to give you a thousand dollars that jersey son. Right. And he can't do it because the insead AA says, no, even though the state says, yes, you can the insect double as change its to this is a game of chicken. I think you have to reach some sort of settlement here, what you probably can't have is every d one athlete in the country getting paid. I don't even know the Bernie Sanders can come up with the way to pay everybody to, and then some in some states, will you pay who warns it who's who's arc it to the point where they look, I pick a place at northwestern. That might be the women's lacrosse him because they won seven national titles in Connecticut. It might be Gino, Auriemma team. They want to say that, like if only one state does this, they will get all the great play. California's will be the only one once it does. I don't know what happens. That's why that's why the United States has surprised court to supposedly tell you what the law the land. Is. And that's why you see states now in other areas than sports, putting bills out there laws out there just to get online court. Yes, who's gonna win the state of California with. With a pipe piper effort of everybody following, right? Or the NC double what I'm saying. I could see that something like that going all the way to spring court. I let's take a break coming up who should be favored in. Friday's World Cup match up the USA or France and more likely to leave his current team, Kevin Durant, or Kawai Leonard. But you think your northwestern basketball players would go there? Berkeley was paying money, all mid western kids. Oh, stop. They going for the money. They could assign their way for the money. I'd say go for the money. I didn't I didn't if is here, I didn't advise you said, I tries to me in Evanston, California, but at. It is time for toss up there for questions. There are two choices there is one gorgeous competitor here. Thank you. Thank you. What's I toss up who should be favored on Friday team? USA team France. So I know the game will be played in Paris. And I would think that that is a significant home field advantage for the French team. But I think the United States should be favored. They're the defending champions ranked number one in the world. They're the best in the world. Just ask them. I mean I to me they should be favored in this particular game own field. We've we've seen a lot of teams go to seventh games and went on the road. That's not this sport. And if this game was being played in New York, you wouldn't say if France was a defending champion the number one, ranked it would be favored over the United States. There's no way in the world. You would say that I'm not gonna say that are French team, which is ranked in the top four. Yeah. It's not like one is once Virginia they house to France. Yes. France, plan in Paris should be fatal the shame of this. The shame of this is that this is in the round of eight and we saw this in the NCAA Duke Michigan say latest. Juuling it is brackets next. Toss up more likely to leave their current team. Kevin Durant, or Leonard. Well, let me say that, I think it makes more sense for Kevin Durant to stay because the warriors are offering him five years at max money and saying, you can have a medical redshirt for the first year. And then if you wanna be traded, we'll try to work something out to me that is a no lose for Durant. Kawai leonard. He's unknowable. We have no idea what he's going to do. I would say this, though today. I think both will stay but asked me to morale could change presents a significant change on your part, considering every day I sat in Toronto for about a month and I would say, Tony, I think the raptors have a chain and asked me say, I'm sorry. He's got a house in San Diego or some say that what I what I said was he can go where everyone's because he won that title that was before he wanted to title when I was sitting in Toronto saying this to you. I'm gonna say kuwa- because Kevin. Rant has this set of circumstances in which you have to rely depend deeply on a medical staff. Right one that, you know versus going somewhere where you don't know him. Presumably names, you'll know them and is going to be in a brand new state of the art arena, this better than anything in the world today, and it's already there and it sits him. And he knows the people seem. So you're saying he'll stay stays got the answer. The question would have to be why. But I think you think of both stay today that's where you are today. Next toss up more likely to win an MVP Zion Williamson or Luca Danni. So right now, I'm going to go with Luca Danni, because we know he can play in the NBA. We've seen him in the NBA, we've not seen his great talent. He's gonna make a tremendous amount of money he's spectacular to watch. But we don't know that he can play yet in the NBA Luca Danni pitches on a team where Porzingis can play he's gonna plan. He's giving him the ball, then suddenly, he's already an MVP. Tender Dallas, of course, is where Nabisco from the only European whoever won MVP. I'm not things I won't I'm saying right now, I would favor, Don chick. I think I've ever done is to. But if there's going to be. Away to present this resign on it. Simply this David Griffin knows how to build a teen or young ten. Hi, Tony Tony. We don't see is gonna win it three or four years from seven years. It was four years before the Brown one, but the point is Zion is being built around every consideration. To take into account his set of talents. So that would suggest zion's going to be able to do this, if he's anything like we expect Novitsky referenced, by the way, onto just one. So the second, let's put the first is the only four long texter last one toss up, who is in the right Tyler flowers or Wilson contraire. Okay. These two catches contrasts hits a home run. If he watches he hits a home running turns around, and he barks flowers. Okay. But this isn't the start of what happens starred as the pitch before we're flowers frame to pitch in order to get a strike. All right. And contrast bark to him flowers any bark wrong I watched the game. And I know everything that happened in watch substance barks the unpire not at the catcher not flowers. He says to the unpire because he's catching the same game. That's low. This is what catchers do they framed Picciotto, even knievel bark at flowers, ARCO, going, oh, I'm Arlington. Oh you that. I think that flowers is right. But in contrast case, Pia catcher as well and hitting a home run. If you go to let the kids play, then you gotta let it happen, watching the great explanation of this, last night was given by Harold Reynolds, as Sean Casey, and they'll be network because they went into this for like an hour when you are talking to the unpire the catcher, the opposing catcher needs to shut up and mine hitting flying, what happened flowers, yet, and says something to the effect you get back in the box enough of it, and I just point. And then he hits it out. And then he gets his face. You know what the Braves? They're always. Get the Atlanta Braves out very good. Let him on. He's eight come span. That's right. He's a our cubs. Outs that's me. He's get out. That's the call the bulls bears enough of this just Blackhawk. Let's take one last break, not Dame still to come Jalen. Ramsey your boy. It's back in Strache talk. Is that a good thing? And as Magic Johnson. Right. That the ngelo Russell to be a good fit now. The lake also your back north western everything out of Chicago. Habits on people have fifty fifth birthday Dell. Curry curries Father's Day gift and birthday gift of both the same. He was able to watch both his sons Stephan. Seth not just play in the NBA playoffs with play against each other in the NBA playoffs. It's probably impossible for Dell to root for one over the other. But what joy he must stay in seeing them both out there more toward me. Throw us now the weird summertime basketball's over for a while. He know the dill curry can hit a golf ball, pretty good. It's a fine. He can't beat the sun but he can beat the daylights out of us twenty. Happy anniversary Edwin Jackson on this day nine years ago. Jackson Diamondbacks, threw a no hitter against Tampa Bay despite walking eight and hitting a batter. It's important to say Jackson was pitching for on that day because he has now pitched for major league record fourteen different teams everywhere seventeen year career Jackson currently on the injured list for Toronto. But so far, this is a season. Forget is e r is twelve point four three. I mean nobody likes to have to move all the time. Isn't there a certain pool? Nece about having played with that many teams have all those Younis those jerseys in your house. Happy trails to Jalen Ramsey trashing opposing quarter Sheild mouth cornerback from Jacksonville told Adam Schefter, he is no longer in the trash talking business saying, quote, I'm growing it's a different me on but within twenty four hours. He was back to the same OMI tweeting, quote LOL. Don't get it. Twisted though I'm still going to talk my bleep when the time comes you can grow and still talk, your talk on, quote, I am personally sick of this guy. Mike. How about you how sick of two years ago until you so long, but I like this turn he's taking saying, okay, I'm gonna do what I do, even if it's obnoxious, just play play better. One error wilpon reference Virginia losing two thousand four cement, you NBC in the mighty America east. That's right. Let's go to the big finish. Do on Marbury will coach deja, Royal fighters. Of the Chinese Basketball Association, is that good hire me is their more famous person in Chinese basketball in the entire history. Thinking speeds set on. Magic Johnson says the Lakers should now go after the ngelo Russell getting back. Is that a good idea? Amaya the same planet as Magic Johnson. He traded him away to grow up. Maybe grew up all growed up really. Maybe really eighty traded dancing visually approved as a medal of end as the twenty twenty four Olympics. Yeah. Even dumber though, the really the gymnastics synchronized swimming, Dipa postures, Bengals top pick Joan Williams like the out for the season after showing the surgery. That's a big loss, right? Yeah. He's the eleventh overall pick and his Alabama kit. And they usually play right away last one college World Series game tonight. Michigan vandy.

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Bad Sign?

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19:50 min | 11 months ago

Bad Sign?

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Tony big deal I mean that's really been waiting for this I. Don't think it's surprised. They cancelled the hall of fame. Game gives each of the two teams it was supposed to be. Like a week and a half ten days I suppose to report while we assess the state state of the world, not just a state of the National Football League and state of the cowboys or the state of the Dak Prescott contract to state of the world and United States of America and Texas. One of the growing hotspots, so this is a big deal and Tony. It's a big deal also, because as I look at football as I stare down football at all the you know, we're going to the hype over the schedule. We're GONNA, get this. We don't know if we're Jack. And so this begins to put into some context that we still have to wait a little bit to find out if and what will happen when. Yeah so I don't think it's a big deal yet. Because it's an exhibition game, and it doesn't matter, and it's so early in the schedule. It only exists for the ceremony of the induction of the hall of fame. It's like a booster dinner. It doesn't really mean anything I think. It's a little deal right now, but where I do agree with you is the NFL has been very definitive that they wanNA. Play Sixteen Games I. This is an admission that they don't know how to navigate this virus just yet. This is an admission that they can't be certain about anything. I'll tell you this mike a few months ago when the NFL said Sixteen Games and we're going forward. That was in April that was in May and this seemed like a long way down the road will now we're almost in July and the virus is getting worse. It's not getting better. I think you and I are in accord that the virus holds all the cards and say you want sixteen and even to a ranger schedule, so some games can be flipped. To three months down the road, I don't right now. I'm not bet on sixteen today. How about you? I'm not I'm not even I'm not even to the point of discussing how many games I'm still at the point of wondering if they'll be any games. That's fair at this point. Tony It'd be great. It'd be great if they're all the games. It'd be great if there's a partial season wonderful, we don't know Jack. I mean you know I. Remember I'm going back to. I April and Adam Silver said at the time I know less today than I knew a month ago when he said the season's got to be put on hold. We know in some ways less now. We are less certain of everything of life going forward. We didn't we couldn't. We couldn't have a crystal ball was going to tell us what was going to happen. Necessarily in Florida in Arizona and Texas, and what was going to happen with every event. Now you see events that were scheduled being canceled. We don't know in the NFL doesn't know either. The I think that I think that the NFL will look to baseball to see what happens to baseball to see if they can have the full season that they want. We see things in golf. scrimmages in golf. Guys who go out and Gosnell. Other. Yeah so. Far Apart you can be there. The beyond certainty now probably has a terrible effect on the NFL because they came out stronger than everybody that they were going to have sixteen and. How's IT looking so far? We don't. We don't know how it's looking. Rob Manfred as we move to baseball says Major League Baseball Owl's it to its fans to be better, Tony Quote. We need to start to have conversations about how we. The Commissioner's Office, my staff clubs, the MLB and the players. Can Be better going forward. We to our fans to be better than we've been the last three months tone. What chance do you give of that actually happening? I give zero chance to that. Paying attention to what is happening to this point. They sat down together and all they got was acrimony. They got tremendous acrimony. The players hate the owners. They don't believe anything you're saying. Scott Boris urges them onto and disbelieve the owners. The players left money on the table. Might they left a lot of money on the table? Compared to what they're going to get just so they could sue baseball. So if you ask me what chances this have that they're going to get together and everything's GonNa be great I, would say today absolute zero w zero zero. They've. Each other they hate each other. We can use that word. They do I mean it doesn't mean that every player hates everyone and no, no, no, no no, but collectively the players the owners. They can't stand each other. They've had more work stoppages whereas we know that all the other sports combined, this is what they do. They have acrimony. They sit at a table and they just WanNa spit on each other and you mentioned Boris. He leads the way for the MLB. PGA, even the players who say my God I'm tired of Boris. They wanted to. Doing. What he says, so Tony No there's not going to be the not going to be better, and they really don't care about the fans much either this notion in major league baseball. They really can't. No, no, they don't and I will say this. This is what in the case of Major, League Baseball Players Association has created the strongest unions. They're not paying a bit of attention to the fans. They know what they want. They pursued their agenda. And if you get in the way, it's too bad. Then the neither one of the sides kiss about anything else other than its agenda. So I sort of like rob Manfred I think. He came out very early and said we want to have a season. Will I think he said we'll turn over every rock to get a season? But at this point he flies out. To See Tony Clark and it's optimistic for about I. Don't know five six hours. He may feel betrayed. By Tony Clark, Road Manford has to understand that the players think of him as a complete stooge for the owners every time he suggests something like a pitch clock, or you know something to improve the game they go. No I know. They hate him. They hate him. They hate the owners, so zero is the correct amount. Let us stay with baseball. Let me get closer to home to Washington DC where I live, and you visit. Occasionally I'm told the athletic is reporting that there have been no contractual conversations at all between the Washington nationals and their longtime GM Microsoft Chicago and who I know you love. Decade. Only the Yankees and the cardinals and the dodgers have been to more PO seasons than the nationals will. Can you imagine the national? Just saying died? Get Out of here to Mike Rizzo. Why? Why aren't look I? Only know one side of this. I. Like Mike Rizzo. WHO's a Catholic league boy who grew up in Chicago? What the exact same time I did, and we have a lot of the same. You don't references in life and I really liked Mike Rizzo Mike. Rizzo's really good at what he does. Because I'm sorry, what did they just do? What I told her I? Know Baseball's long time ago, but Mike Rizzo put together. They won the world series. Yeah, why would you live? Your think they won. The World Series thinks I. Don't want to presume that just because they haven't done. It yet means they won't do it. I, don't WanNa do that. There's plenty of time to get a contract to reward Rizzo, but you know what Mike Rusel. Stress he should have none because if the nationals hero reasons don't WanNa do that, they'll be about thirty other teams that say or twenty nine on the teams. Let's say Mr Izzo. Can we have a conversation? Yeah so I can see my resolve leaving if he wants to. If it is his goal to go somewhere else, and he knows where he wants to go, he can do that, but let me go through a few things that he's done. K.. He signed Strasbourg he signed sherzer. He navigated letting go of Bryce Harper because he had Soto and Robe Mason traded for meat. Meat and he was prepared for that. He signed Patrick Corbin. He signed how Kendrick. He got the baby short power and he won the World Series Mike. We've seen this before with. Rizzo gets down to the wire. And then he gets a contract. He's been near since two thousand and nine. There's no reason for the learners not to love him. There's no reason maybe they. Just the way they want to do business, you know more about I, don't i. Say Hello you are Mr Net. You want and dine with the executives So how do you feel with this Rizzo and any long? Goes I feel that he's going to stay if he wants to stay in I. Never heard they didn't want to say. There's one knock against him. He's like ten or eleven years. He goes to managers very quickly. Davey Martinez if he finishes, this season will be the first manager to go three zero three for the mass and he went through, he went to manny. ACTA and Jim. Riggleman David Johnson, Matt, Williams and dusty. Baker we both for dusty. Baker should've stayed, so he churns managers, but again he just won the world series. World Series Washington, DC nineteen, twenty, four was the previous one I knew there was an absence of baseball time. Washington you must put together this rundown. We're GONNA STAND DC. I did thirty five year old, running back. Let me repeat thirty five year old, running back injury, and Peterson wants to play four more years Peterson, said the TMZ quote why not close quote. Peterson is fifth all-time in yards and could have an outside chance to catch him and Smith the all time record if he plays four more years a theme in Washington four more years all the time, every four hundred. Here's a two hundred. Tony. You better guess AP. First of all he's got to catch frank. Gore who's still working. Okay, he's yeah. He's with the jets now and he's number. Three and Peterson is is number five look I would not bet against his ability to get his body in shape and I would not bet against his desire to play, but I might bet against coaches wanting him on the tier. At a certain age. He wants the ball all the time. The reason it works with the redskins the last two years because the redskins have terrible. They didn't have a quarterback. The so that's so the handed walling did he did a very good job, but now they've got a new coach. They got Ron Rivera I. Don't I don't know what that relationship is and I will just say this and get out of my part of the segment the oldest running back ever in the NFL. You know the lead running back Markus. Allen the thirty seven. Peterson wants to go to thirty nine I. Wanted to say, remind people with Shack said. Br Pro thirty nine twenty. s the exact since I work on my shack. But. Marcus Allen who we both love, and we know Marcus Allen was hosed out of three years. There was three years or Marcus. Allen May as well a bit in a smoking jacket with a pipe. He didn't play her. He hardly played at all, and so he saved that Adrian Peterson. Look if Adrian Peterson was in Minnesota where there is emotional investment in him in his career I might see this house. Tony Coaches for the most part. Don't care about running backs anymore. It's one thing to say I. Want to do this. It means you don't get to do it. Necessarily, I don't see this happening. I mean if Adrian Peterson of latch on somewhere and stay healthy good for him. The it'll just make people pay attention to football celebrate. In it Smith Walter Payton and various, and all the other great backs that Peterson has passed and would have to pass Jim Brown of course to get to number one spot of course, Emmitt, Smith but man tone I I, don't i. don't see this happening. He's going to the hall of Fame Agent Peterson. He's great back, but don't tell me. Oh there so many quarterbacks playing until forty. It's a different position. A quarterback receives the ball from the centre. Every play a running back has to have the quarterback handed to him. It's. Just not the same things and thirty nine if he gets the thirty nine I know I'm betting against it, and so we're be amazing. I am betting against the to. Let's see if I can actually read the happy's. I wrote them. Let's see if I can read them happy. fifty-six Birthday Dell Curry before anybody knew how well steph curry could shoot it. They knew how well Dell Curry could shoot it. They retired is numbered Virginia Tech because he could shoot. He played sixteen years in the NBA. Because could shoot it. Del Curry's career shooting percentage from three was forty point two percent in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety four. He was a sixth man of the year. Now both sons are even better shoes. Seth coming off the. The Bench and Dallas shoots best even better than Steph at forty five point three percent. Steph is at forty three point five percent, but Steph has hardware championship rings and MVP trophies. The curry's of the manning's of the NBA Del played for five different teams, but the bulk of his career ten seasons were in Charlotte where he now does color on the Hornets Games and a bit of side intrigue for the Family Eleven years ago. Today Golden State selected Steph. Curry with the seventh overall pick, not top ten Mike Blake Griffin one James Harden Three Marta rose nine. True Tony One of the things I missed about golden state being the playoffs this year, actually being in Golden State. We haven't had any of that this time spent with Dell Curry and del. It's gotta be as proud as he is his sons. He is Tony this got to be a little wistfulness in. He can't beat them anymore. He can't shoot them anymore. He can't beat them in golf anymore. I think he's still trying to get Steph just one round I love seeing hanging out a little bit with. Dell curry every spring for the past seven years now. It's come to an end. That's a happy trails. That streak I loved Ilker. He ain't beaten steph curry in. Those days. How? Three Edwin Jackson on this day ten years ago, while pitching for the diamondbacks Jackson through what we like to call a nuclear loose, no hitter against Tampa towing a hundred forty nine pitches, walking eight and hitting a batter, so nobody was safe Jackson pitch seventeen years in the bigs for Major League record fourteen different teams. He was released in spring training. This year is a minor leager for Arizona. So he was still trying to thirty six Jackson's career record is one. Oh seven. Seven and one thirty three with a four seventy eight era. He made one all star game, but let's go to the teams in the win totals the right here to one six for the dodgers in nineteen for Tampa Bay then fifteen for Detroit. Jackson had six Arizona including this no hitter, but he was traded halfway through that season to your white sox eleven wins in Chicago, five more in Saint, Louis. Fifteen for the Washington nationals. Then sixteen with your cobs. He did great. With Atlanta Lanta. None with either Miami Your Baltimore five with San Diego, six with Oakland and one with the Toronto Blue Jays will, but I know you hate uniform, but that's a lot of uniform visit if Tony I. Mean I admire this first of all. Let's go back to the no hitter. That's a man's no hitter. That was manager coming out in the fifth inning to say. How does your shoulder feel big boy? This big boy pitching back then cook for him I. Love that hundred and forty fifty. He probably glared back in the dugout when the pitching coach got ready to come out. Come out here and I. Won't top you man's pitching, not this list. Protect your arm. You get denied stop. On forty nine. Not Happy trails. Having trails to an empty churchill downs. The Kentucky Derby announced there will be fans Derby on September. Fifth, though at a reduced capacity in the stands and in the infield masks will be encouraged, and fans will be asked to socially distance themselves where possible and wash their hands for twenty seconds or sanitize them frequently, all of which sounds rather laissez faire to me. There was no mention if this stuff was to occur before or after throwing down a few mint juleps no announcement, the specific number of Of Fans allowed to attend the Derby, but last year one hundred fifty thousand showed up the Derby traditionally the first leg of the triple crown. Go second this year last Saturday in front of no fans Tis. The Wall won the Belmont stakes. which went I this year instead of its Usual Third Tis the law Ju- away wouldn't good horse does in the final eighth opening up four links on the field. We'll von. I texted you. You never responded promptly. You'd watch. Did you watch the race? I did. Yeah? There was reason for no tech situation I didn't Tony, but it was part of. It is three hours earlier out here. You know I I wasn't keyed into the five o'clock start time. I, was you know I? was actually having a bite? Outside and people were watching outdoor television and I can hear the screaming, but I was too lazy to get up. Don't horses by the way one to ten scale. What shares to you give a fans actually being actually being in Churchill downs? One to ten ten is actual fans. One is no chance when you got. Oh I. Think they'll be I'd go as high as I think there will be some I. Just don't think it's going normal crowd i. don't, but you gotTA. You just can't say wear a mask if you want or social distance if it's possible. No, you gotTA. Have some rules senior pay A. Science see how many rules Florida and Arizona in Texas have had. What are you talking about? It was a suggestion that most of those dates for at least part of the time. Trust me, I'm in one of them.

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 177 - Exclusively the NBA Playoffs

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 177 - Exclusively the NBA Playoffs

"The. Winning journalists New York Times fillers topic out of bounds. No opinion, left unsaid and institution for sports. Talk and information. This is a sports reporters. Here's Mike Lupu. Mitch Albom at Bob Ryan album of the choice free press. Bob Ryan of the Boston Globe in ESPN. I am Mike Lupu MLB dot com and MSNBC and welcome to the Monday edition of the sport. Support is podcast which will be exclusively about the NBA because a tremendous season of playoff basketball continued through to amazing game sevens. And one of the greatest shots in the history of professional basketball by Leonard at the end of the raptors Sixers game guys. Zach Luca had made the trip east to watch the games with me yesterday and before game seven between the raptors and the seventy Sixers he said, what do you think? I said here's what I think that this may be one of those games where it comes down. Onto the best player in the gym. And if it comes down to the best player in the gym the rafters are going to win because that is Leonard little did. I know what he would do after putting his hands on the ball with just a couple of ticks over four seconds left driving to his right and putting up really they open for business in nineteen forty six Bob, and you know, this one of the most memorable shots in the history of the sport. Well, the first time I was surprised Mike I hadn't thought about it, obviously. But I was surprised to learn that it is indeed the first game winning game buzzer beating game seven winner, quite amazing. It's creating a history of NBA playoffs. There have been lot of big shots have been gained buzzer beaters in other rounds and so forth but game seven of a series has never before ended on a buzzer beater, and what a buzzer beater. It was for bounces officially a around the rim. And but a tremendous shot over a seven footer by a great player, culminating forty one point effort in going seven forty one of his points teams ninety two but. Just a spectacular. Well, you know, we often talk about football is a game of inches. But in the analysis of that shot, you really see how delicate basketball is that way too. I love how Leonard explain and think about this is all happening at rocket speed. Okay. He's racing to the corner. This isn't like well, we had a time out. And we he's racing to the corner. He knows I'm reading this quote. He said 'em bead was guarding me. He's taller and longer than me. So I ended up finding a spot that I work on. And I just knew that I had to shoot it high now at that speed to then pull up to Noah agai is taller than you to know you've got to put that huge arc on it. And to know that would be a huge arc on it. You're gonna get a soft bouncing, and maybe gonna get all that happening. The same time that embodied in my view made a mistake. If you if you watch the way that he defends that he kind of jumps too soon because he is seven feet, and he should have been able to interfere with. That in that small little difference of and bead being just a little bit off in his timing. And Leonard being perfect in his timing. Does does that game in and it's remarkable, you know, those kind of inches and that kind of mentality and thinking about that kind of stuff when you're making a shot. Really does go to show you that there's a lot more to this than just, you know, pick up basketball guys a lot of skills. There's a lot of Mitch. Here's the thing. And again, it's it's also happening in rocket time for Joel Embiid. And he's thinking I don't want to go. And you know, I saw diagram today. The apex of the shot was eighteen feet in the air. I mean think about that. Okay. But but here's the thing. And we're talking about this this morning. If somebody's going to make that shot, you're gonna lose. Okay. We can I watched all this analysis this morning on ESPN Bruce Bowen who I love. And no and like saying they should have done this, and they should have. Done that and Simmons gave up too early. Wait a minute somebody who's nearly seven feet tall Simmons ransom to the corner. And then he runs them into their longest guy, which is Joel Embiid. Okay. And the guy puts up a shot that ends up bouncing four times on the rims. And I've I've seen games like balls like that in the tournament before were a ball kind of hangs around up there, and deciding which way it wants to fall into basketball history. But at the end of the day, we can analyze oh, yeah, they should've trapped him the shouldn't. And not let them got the ball. That guy ran to the corner and over Joel Embiid whether day, I agree with you. He didn't time a great. He's still Joel Embiid with a hand in the air. And then and then for all of the replace stuff in the world. Okay. Those still photographs of all of them watching that shot from the corner showed you that. Yeah. A picture is still worth not just a thousand word, but about ten million words Mitchell when it can. Graduate you, and I mean, this thirty on your now asus because I was just got through telling Michael before we convened that Tim Legler had impressed me enormously this morning with his detailed analysis of many things specifically that shot, and he made the exact point that you made about Embiid leaving his feet a split second too soon. And he was basically coming down as Leonard was going up and had he waited another count. He very well might have disturbed the shot of not even tipped at or blocked it. So you go to the head of the analysis and this new. Here. That's very high praise. His right, though, it Bobby. I get all that and mitch's, right? But the best point Mitch made is rocket speed. So I can't fault the kid for going to soon. No, no, no, no. Well, let me ask at a larger. He was my impression from watching that game. And watching all of them all of them. I mean, it's just such great basketball. You can't not watch it. I had no doubt for for whatever reason that quiet. Leonard was going to live up to this moment. I wasn't sure about anybody on the seventy Sixers and the guy suspected if it was going to be any was going to be Jimmy Butler because he's the only guy was evidenced any maturity on that team all year long. And he was he was the only guy who seemed up to the moment of making 'em bead made some free throws. But you know, you gotta get found in order to make free throws. I I had the feeling that Toronto was going to win that even if that shot didn't go in even if they they got taken to overtime. I just felt like you said Mike best player in the gym who played like the best player in the gym Damian Lillard, for example, did not best player on his team didn't have the game. And if not procedure McCollum, they're not in. They're not in the finals, some guys live up to that moment, some guys shrink away from that moment. And I just think Colli Leonard is is arguably. Is the number two is number one between Janas and him. But he is at this moment or Durant. Pretty good. Well, I guess because he's heard didn't jump right to my forefront. Yeah. All right or one-two-three. But he's that. Did you guys get that feeling too that he just wasn't going to let them lose? Whether it was an over your one hundred percent, right. He because he didn't just do it yesterday. He did it the whole series. I mean, they were breaking down. This was one of the great individual seven game series, and Bob, and I were talking before Mitch. And I have a feeling you're going to be in lockstep with us on this. You know, everybody keeps saying and Steve Kirk keep saying, Kevin Durant. Seven a Michael Jordan playoff from. Well. Yeah. But he's seven feet tall. This was a Michael Jordan sized player. Giving us a Michael Jordan sized performance yesterday for the raptors. And yes, I've Mitch I agree with you. I never doubted that he would be up. To what we always. TV show used to call the circumstances of the occasion. Okay. I never doubted and by the way, we'll get Lillard in a minute. But Lillard to me showed his athletic character yesterday by knowing that it wasn't that. It was CJ McCollum stay and not his, and I think that's a form of leadership that gets overlooked sometimes. And the funny thing about the Sixers Mitch you were just talking about. Yeah. I didn't know who's going to step up, and they all sort of played their game. You know, I look at their starting five fifteen for Harris Twenty-one Embiid Simmons had his, you know, his usual Butler Rettig, but not one of them stepped out of the chorus and said, okay, I'm going to take it all on and Kawai took it all on a Mitch. Here's the thing. Bob's been talking about two when it was all on the line yesterday. That Sixers heads some Bobby, you know, this had some crap possessions. They had stretch of consecutive extra processions in the middle of a fourth quarter of game seven. Unlike anything, I ever, you know. Just you don't see that at that level that team three horrible possessions. Twenty second finalization or near twenty four second violation two out of three time out off time out. Right time out. Joel Embiid last basket came with more than four minutes to go in the game Simmons last basket came with more than six minutes to go in the game. That says something to me I look at at at who's making them when accounts down the stretch only only Jimmy Butler had a basket and that was with four seconds to go. The rest was all free throws. You know, you know, kind of throwing yourself into guys and hoping you get a whistle. Whereas whereas Leonard was making shots was making shots when they had to and boy, Bob, we mentioned this. I think last week when we isn't an amazing, Mike. I don't know if you guys have mentioned this when I have been on the show the difference in the conversation about Kawai Leonard now versus year ago, and they asked him about this that the probably saw the TV interview. And he went into it a little bit said well last year was really weird year for me. And you know, I wasn't in good health. There wasn't. It was way more than good health. It was all about why isn't he around San Antonio, what kind of leader is he supposed to be all the rest of. And look the difference in the conversation about him. Now, Mitch nine match, Bob. And I couple of times we we we actually have just had this conversation that you just race. And you know, we decided we're net. We may never know the whole story of how things got a sideways as they did between him and the Spurs organization and him and pop and him in RCB. We may never know. But what it all did what it all did was make us forget way too quickly. How how how much in the thick of MVP conversations? He had been when he was still quite Leonard. Yeah. And he's the reason why I went on record is picking them to come out of the east. And because I thought he was going to have a big place. But this is always vindicating my judgments, well, I'll just take. About just reflecting second on Mitchell. You were saying thinking about the two fascinating distinct interesting personalities that we're talking about here who can tell us the story. And yet it's unlikely that either will ever dish. I certainly don't think that Leonard will ever dish. And I don't think that pop well, either about his pupil. God. No. Somebody other people would. But I don't think that pop will. We're not gonna know. And then and then the end, you know, well, that's San Antonio's problem. They'll to Molina. Here's an thing. Now. The now that the the plot will thicken when these whenever Toronto was done playing whether they are waving a banner or exiting nobly in neater level with wither or go to why did you notice in the post game? Mitch when he said, he said, you know, and this could have been my last game. And then there was a pause and the he had the presence of mind to add of the season. Because that that pause. Apparently, I'm told lit up social media. But but. Of the season which meant I wouldn't get to play another game for thinking. No, we kind of know what you meant by the way, I had no idea because we've cells so seldom heard from him over the course of his career that his alternate. Fallback profession will be voice over what a great voice. It's. Verminous. We don't hear from him. We know he doesn't he doesn't talk a lot. But it also that also speaks to you. Consider his art consider when he came in. He joined a team that was legendary, you know, they were loaded with talent. And I remember when we first started hearing about Hawaii Leonard with the Spurs, and he was boy, how did the Spurs end up with that fine. Young talent considering how good a team they are. You know, how did they get a guy like that with the fifteenth overall pick, and then he slowly slowly started to work as way up to one of the better guys on the team, you know, boy reliable guy on the team and then two thousand fourteen ends up the finals MVP with the championship. His career has been with the exception of last year. That's why last year was so crazy. His career has been a series of step to the next step to the next step to the next step, and he is still ascending. And h twenty seven he is not yet. Even I don't think the player that he can ultimately become his defense is phenomenal. And how many times in the game? Yesterday. You know, see on the other end of picking up a baller or jumping front something. We never talk about that. With these superstars he is a two full two way player who's not yet at twenty seven reached his Mitch weren't you surprised? I actually looked it up yesterday. I was actually surprised to realize that he doesn't even turn twenty eight until June. Okay. That that he just seems like he's been around longer than that. And he really hasn't. And that is why that is why we don't wanna get into all the free agency stuff or any of that right now. Okay. That is why when you look at the whole package here. Okay. This. He's not Kevin Durant is an any more attractive and addition to your team for next season and the foreseeable future is oh gosh. Okasha no question. And would you not argue Bob that of the two he'd make the better team mate? I'm not about personalities team in terms of ease. Glain with point it is. Yeah, I'd say, but by the grease, I don't want this to anyway, I don't want to get. Anyway, think we're going to disparage our not pleased with any aspect of Durant's game. Really? So no. But I just think he brings a little bit more baggage in terms of like. Change your team game. Yes. By the way, Mitcham Bob. Here's the other thing about what again, Bob celebrating this on Twitter last night. And we also right? Okay. We come to sports for moments like this. Okay. And the way a moment like that can make Keam a city their own entity. Better the set the scene outside. Jim were as good as the scenes inside the gym. Okay. Looking what they overcame? The past that they overcame, you know, look at all the Klay off disappointments at this time of year. Well, I don't want. You don't know what to spare Dwayne Casey or the guys that were there in the past? You know? First of all twin Casey was coaching Leonard. I got a feeling that might have been able to do this to. There was a big change. And I've gotten to know join Casey since he's been in Detroit. And he he's he's a really good coach. But sometimes you just need one new element or two new elements. I remember when the the pistons were trying to do their sort of climb up clam constantly running into the same trouble all the time or getting eliminated by the Celtics all the time. And then they made that one trade where they got rid of Adrian Dantley. And it was how you get rid of Adrian Dantley star. Are you going to get rid of Adrien daily? But you know, it was it was additional by subtraction. And they ended up you know, that was what they needed to do to sort of go forward. They just needed to change up the chemistry a little bit. And I think that this was the case here they needed to break up. You know, the duo that they had in Toronto for all those years and the coach they had into Rondo, but you know, this is a team that's been coming for a long time, and they deserve it. And I'm glad that they're. Excited up there. And I'm glad that Toronto that we get to see a Canadian team get this far. And and I'm curious to see how they're going to be able to do because we keep talking about Jaanus. But, you know, this is you say, Mike, I mean, this is if it's wanted if it's one it's one a, you know, there's not some. Superstars. Hey, let's all talk about this for one second. Okay. And obviously we all remember Michael Jordan made the game five deciding game equivalent of wasn't as hard to shot is what co- I did. Okay. And Knicks fans remember that game five in Miami. Where Alan Houston was a buzzer beat it with one second left beat the heat on a runner one day. But bob. It is amazing that there's never been a shot quite like this and all the game sevens. And all the years all the towns like this. I can't you know, obviously, Michael does the push off of Byron Russell to beat the jazz at time. But this goes, Bob, it goes right to the top doesn't it? Well, yes, it's unique little unique Tarpley misuse word English language on every level. But this is unique unique means one one thing. One only to St. only time it's ever happened game seven in BA playoffs game seven decided and so more bankas and four. You know, I think springs to mind is the greatest famous near-miss, I know younger fans are going to say, yeah, go the fogies again. But the most famous near miss this shot in NBA history is Frank salvia nineteen sixty two if he makes that corner jump shot of twelve thirteen feet. They beat the Celtics at the buzzer and win the championship had fell off the rim. And that he didn't. It's what makes talks about inches that shot fell off. Listen. All right. Listen. I got another can we talk a bit about the team that lost the game yesterday before we move onto the other series because Mitch I saying this before to Bob, and and I believe it, and I know what an interesting skillset he has. I think Ben Simmons is one of the most overrated players in the league as talented as is. And I'm not sure you ever win a championship. If he's got to be the guy with the ball at the end of the game. Well, but does he have to be the guy with the ball the end of the game? So that's I think Philadelphia you don't you don't you don't dismiss talent. If you're smart, you'll learn how to adjust to it. I think what's haunting. Ben Simmons is the shadow of what he's supposed to be shoot. But if you just take his skill set of what he has and baba said this, I will say it. And I'm sure coach said the same thing spend the freaking summer in the. Gym and work on your work on your jump shot. He doesn't have to become a you know, Rettig on his team. He doesn't have to be a sharp shooter. He's got a lot of other skills. But they now have a core of players there. And I think Jimmy Butler go-to guy not him, by the way as was witnessed down the stretch. I think that's why they got him. I think if this is all on the coaching if they can get the guys to just contribute the way that they're supposed to contribute, and then have a little bit more team character. And sometimes it just takes a loss. Like it did. I mean, look, I think Joel Joel Embiid is a bit of a clown when it comes to how he plays, but I was affected all admit by watching him cry way that he did immediately after the thing was over. So clearly is passion there. Sometimes passion just comes out the wrong way. Dennis Rodman was a perfect example of that, you know, but but never would you meet them more passionate guy in playing and if they can somehow turn that into. A group mentality. They have enough talent there even with Simmons is limited skill set to work around what he can't bring and be a contender next year, strong, the ultimate example based on size and skill sentence of that who should be the role model. And I think you'll both agree to this is magic when Magic Johnson entered the NBA. He was not a great shooter a scorer. He knew how to score he was a hell of a finisher. But at passing was his number one thing and scoring was a secondary thing. And he he made himself into a scoring threat better more and more into the end where he became a three point scoring threat and and zero three point shooter. Yes, right. So he improved. He went and did exactly what we're talking about. There's no question. I and this I just exasperated that he's gotten this far he being Simmons and allowed to have this game and not being man. Mandated by people who are paying his salary to improve it. And because he is a liability ultimately in these moments because guys think Brent Branson trouble. To. Well. Here's he is. I think probably I think they're going to. Yes. I mean, we're playing Toronto. That's not lost. I I'm not saying, it's right. I'm not. Any different than you know, some some Wiesenthal analogy that what you were saying about Casey could could be now applied to Brown because they didn't get it done about them. We all know where we're going to be next year. We're whereas, you know, we're Tobias Harris going to be next year. There's no guarantee locked together. But if you've got Symond Embiid. Butler, Harris and JJ Rettig. You should be winning. You know? I mean, you should be there every year that is a very very talented and not all the same kind of talent five starting five. And if it's not going to be the current coach, and they need somebody else to do it put it together. I know they don't have a bench, but they should be a contender. If they keep all those guys together. But then, you know, let's remember now we have another team that that vastly disappointed underachieved that that that that, you know, saying the same thing what Boston should be a contender. It's it's going to have to recognize. Well, it's going to have to recognize. Seasons. Here. Exactly we have to recognize Bob and Mike that that we might as well, not talk about what's going to end up being the big story in the NBA. When after they award the trophy in that is where all these chips gone. I can't remember a summer where more guys we're going to have even the draft is going to do a lot this week. We're gonna find out who's going to end up with Williamson, and that could end up affecting guys are going to go. So I don't think we should get into that game. Now that that game meaning that type of game because it's endless speculation. But it will make an interesting summer. 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Damian Lillard who's been since ational for the trailblazers he was off yesterday. But I do I honestly believe that it takes athletic carry, and please don't anybody. Misunderstand me. I never mistake. Battlefield Beller when death let it character. Okay. I'm talking about athletic character. I think it takes something. And it takes a big player to understand that it at the end yesterday. Even though he did contribute. A very big three point down the stretch. It was CJ McCollum day and CJ McCollum. You know, who he was for the trailblazers yesterday. He didn't have to make the last shot. He was Leonard, and he became thrilling watching him rise to the circumstances of that occasion. Well, Lillard Lilla was three for seventeen. That's not bad. That's awful in forty five minutes. He did have ten rebounds, and he did have eight assists and overall despite going three for seventeen he was still plus eight in in the plus so I mean, he was between nicking other guys score and all the all the rest of it. I'm just saying that Mike there guys who who appear in game sevens. And just they just it's in their DNA. They're never gonna have a bad game seven. The book is too short on Damian Lillard say whether he's going to be permanently in one or the other. But he didn't have it yesterday. And McCollum was remarkable. He was just remarkable. I know he's a good player. But that was beyond a journalism major, by the way, and the people. That was that was a remarkable performance on the road and on the other hand like joke. It's to me did not step up when he absolutely had to and they were counting on him. You know, he didn't in on those final minutes. He looked a little loss to me. Whereas McCullum looked like give me the ball. I can do this. Give me the ball do it. And that's what gets this kind of stuff done his cO. Catch Yokich did become kind of kind of a yoke didn't kind of yoke down the stretch. But Mitch it's a three point league. The second three pointer and last for Yokich came to make the game twelve to seven for his team, the nuggets never made another three pointer after that think about that think about how to them would have made all the difference for them and a three point shooting team. They they're big guy made the last one four them to make it twelve to seven. It's unbelievable that that speaks to the ugliness of the game. That you mentioned like they were two for nineteen for from three pointers craze winning team Portland was four for twenty six. They weren't a whole lot better for for twenty six to nineteen from three point rights ten percent and fifteen percent shooting. So it was bad shooting all the way around. But it doesn't matter who rises to the occasion. And with that big lead at home, the the nuggets have some grown. To do because you can't you feel that showed up. Mitch didn't you feel that that they're immaturity was a huge factor yesterday because I didn't think so absolutely. You saw experience you saw who's ready for the moment. You don't you blow a seventeen point lead at home? I know it was early, but you're at home you blow lead like that. You do not know how to do what? I remember Bill Laimbeer when the when the pistons finally got over the hump came in with a Skype, you know, a blade, you know, to the locker room when it was the game against the Celtics. And they finally said you had the snake down you cut its head off. He actually came in with one of those things waved it around in the locker room. You have the snake down you cut its head off. That's the kind of maturity that you only get to through experience in championship play. And I did not see it evident in Denver and Bob didn't you Bobby Mitch? I'd like to know what both of you think don't you think that the trailblazers it wasn't just their maturity especially from their back court yesterday. But they had been through something they had been humiliated the last couple of years they had been swept by the pelicans one year ago. Okay. And and I'm not saying that they were throwing off as much playoff disappointment as the raptors did. But they were throwing away thrown off a hell of a lot of playoff disappointment. Don't you think? Yeah. I think so too. Remembering that, they another aspect of their saiga is having listener pitch during the year, which was could have been a death blow and the contributions would have however flawed his game is at the other end of the floor Innis Kanter has some skilled in this game. And then you hate it when they Bob he was the only one that could put I would hate it when he was out of the game yesterday because he was the only guy that could put a body on your. Oh catch and I'm unabashedly rooting for him because of his personal circumstance shark with with the the odious and trying to overcome the Nick factor, which is a tremendous thing could be he's he's know. But anyway, that's a lot to interest saga there for sure. But yeah, no. I think you're correct analysis of them. And and that's another city that I'm happy to have a malware from the time they entered the league, it's been a really cool franchise. A little town that could kind of feeling they've never lost it. It's so no other pro sports. They're fifty years now that I wanna ask you this. Okay. Because to me this. I believe that this final four, and you you you deal with this being from Detroit. I think the story is more important than the size of the television market Neidl love this final four. I'd love the stars in this final four, and I will be riveted by this fine. You're not a not a New York LA or Chicago to you know, what I mean, it you know, what I'm saying match. Right. We we got one two and one three okay too. So we got the cream rising. Very, and we all know the east was. A real toss up among the four. And we knew that was so so now, let's turn our attention Ford. And let's stay where we are here with with Portland, you not going to trash their wack. It's well, you'll have to rockets can come into our warriors. We we have to talk about how Steph curry reminded everybody that he's still Steph curry and Mike you always say that. And whenever you talk about the warriors, you still say it's still his team. Yes. Still the guy and even for all the now granted granted, it's a whole different set of circumstances. Kevin Durant out of the game. Because now Steph curry has to be. Yeah. Whereas I said this last week when Bob and I were on the they are a team that faces a problem that I don't think any other team may be Philadelphia faces in the NBA, which is too much talent on the court sometimes at anyone given time and one guy's game will accelerate and rise sometimes at the expense of another players, and I felt that that's been happening with Steph curry with Kevin Durant excellence. There just is not room for the two of them to be great the way that they are great at the same time. They play two different types of. Games. And then when you get out of a rhythm because you're not getting the balls often as you did you can end up looking even worse than than than the circumstances jested, but with Durant out and these guys have on the road as we've been talking about this other one on the road. I mean that that game, and I don't let me ask you guys did that game. Stay more about Golden State or more about Houston because you could make an argument either way in my mind that game six in Houston with no Durant, and you've been waiting your feels like your whole lives to finally take down Searcy. And you know, he's not gonna play game seven, and he's not going to be there for several have the advantage here. And they were flat to me. They looked like I don't know what they expect. It was going to be easy. But they just did not look as interested in winning that game as the warriors did to me the the ultimate offer dog. Did not have very compelling. Fourth quarter us not as Michael is great. Joseph Cousy would say he did not present him not play that. We're accustomed to. And. Yeah, that's that's going to be. I don't know. I don't know what you know. You know, the local ramifications of fall out of criticism. Going to be on him for that. But I can't Bob I wish I could remember where I read this. I may have read it more than one place, but Mitch Bob it is official now that these Houston Rockets are the Knicks of the nineteen nineties trying to get past Michael, Jordan and the bulls. It's extremely analogous. And they will look back and we were playing at the wrong time in the wrong conference against but Mitch going back to curry not only does he have to do this with Kevin Durant hurt. He gets zipped in the first half. He gets nothing in the first half scores. Thirty three in the second half twenty three in the fourth quarter sixteen in the last four minutes after by the way, the guy who seem to invent the contested three hadn't been making contested threes the whole series, and once again just looked like the coolest guy in the room in case we had forgotten who this? Guy has been since he came out of Davidson and. I've got a question for you. Bob. Make a masseuse to make a mistake in coming out in the third quarter not going right at Steph curry to try to get a fourth foul on him. I'd say that's an easy that that's a reasonable contention. Yeah. Sure. You want to try to do that. No question. I just wanna say one thing that it was the great tag team. You know, the splash brothers. The other brother carried them to set them up the other by the set him up clay Thompsons carried them through the first half and that will to withstanding the over put up by by Mr. curry. And so we don't forget his whirlwind all this too. But yeah, but Carl it's bigger than that, Bob. It's bigger than that. He was more critical. Curry was more timely, but he was more critical in my view. He played an unbelievable. They could've gotten blown out mass. They could have gotten blown right before with curry scoring nothing in the first hand Thompson who carried them enabled curry to come in to save the day at the end, but Klay Thompson defense and his often were the star that game even though Steph curry got all the accolades, and I'll tell you something Alibaba Mitch, and I know what you guys think. Okay. I if they break up the band. Okay. And I'm not talking about the rock bottom remainders because thank God. They're still together. They should be broken up at every opportunity every single. But here's I will be sad. Not to watch Durant curry and Klay Thompson play basketball together and then throw in Eka Dala and then throw in Draymond on. This has been such of special time for the sport. It has been such a special time in that city and Durant. He's probably gonna live. Who knows nobody anybody who thinks goes back. Bill goldman. Nobody knows anything anybody who says with any certainty what they would. Kevin Durant going to do is full of beans. Okay. But man, oh, man. Mitch even when not all of them are playing it is fun watching this team play basketball. I always remind people that we've gone through it at various times in Boston. You try to enjoy the, you know, just enjoy the moment enjoy the team every saver the saver. What you've got. And I hope people that they are doing that. And it is a great show tonight. Least they've been the greatest show in basketball for half a dozen years almost now. And and yeah, you should appreciate it. So what are you by the way? Against portland. How how he's in yesterday in Sunday's New York times about the shift. Now, you know, they're leaving the Oakland is going to this gleaming, you know, Jerry Jones like I think over the top place in downtown San Francisco, which is going to be a very different dynamic, crowd wise, very different, and they may regret this. But that story for. Yeah. Let me go. So what he said? Let me go the question Mitch just asked, and we will we will both directed at you do McCollum and Lillard give the trailblazers a punchers chance against the champs. Everybody's got it to do list. Drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk. Here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance. And the thing is you don't have to drop off or pick up. Anything? All you have to do is go to Geico dot com and fifteen minutes, you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Got extra money in your pocket. It just may be the most rewarding to do that. You do today. A lot of pause in their Bob. Oh, I thought with you. Famer. Yes. Favor. White. You know, what I'm thinking Mitch? Thank God that coli responded better after. Demento today. God that Kawai rose to the occasion the way our hall of Famer did not it shows are undying respect for you. Just sat I was waiting because Bob Ryan is thinking I just the clock just ran up, and we just went to overtime. Thank you very much. I was currying to the best seller of Durant here. That's all now. Listen to me, I'm calling it an easy six. I call that an easy six they're going to win as opposed to a hard sick. They're going to win. Going to. Yeah. They're going to in the final game and game. Six on the road in Portland will probably be along the lines of one twenty one to the ninety seven. That's what I admit. Let me ask you a question before we move onto the Lakers. And then a stunning coaching announcement today, and the NBA Mitch let me ask you this before we wrap up this particular part of of our podcast. Okay. My best player in the gym theory. Who's the best player in the gym in the Eastern Conference finals? Aw. That's what I'm gonna. I'm gonna make decision rather than, you know, west back and forth Kawai Leonard. And here's why experience. Yeah. I agree. Not there yet. He is coming. He will be he we may two or three years not even begin this discussion because it'll end itself, but right now Pua Leonard knows how to live to this moment. Remember what I said about step by step by step by step Yana still taking those steps? Milwaukee is still taking those steps. And I give Leonard the advantage. Even though he's six foot seven. These days is short in the NBA. I give them the advantage there from the sublime to the ridiculous the coaching search of the Los Angeles Lakers, which I actually Mitch and Bob started to think would eventually involve the three of us. Okay. They fucking Lee settled. And by the way, they settled on a guy who I think is a very good basketball coach Frank Vogel. But we have spent an awful lot of the season talking about the dysfunction at the top of the Lakers organization. And now about throw this up like a jump ball. Okay. Who is calling the shots. Now. Jeanie Buss, Kurt Rambis. Mrs Kurt ramps, rob Pelinka or LeBron James that thing is a mess. Yeah. Well, in I didn't know until this all came up that Rambus was involved at all. So I missed that one. But it Jag Phil Jackson's involved too for sure one hundred percent. I know it's I doesn't inspire if I'm a Laker fan. I'm not I'm not dancing. Metaphorical jinx today. Oh, my. Oh, my don't you. I don't know. Frank bogus. Relationship or history of a relationship with LeBron James they coached against coach against them. And that's it. Right. I you know, what I when I look from thirty thousand feet at the Lakers. I see old guard genius Kurt Rambus. You know that that Phil Phil they love that in LA. They love their history and the glory years. And then I see Pelinka who I know from his days with the fact that he's a very smart young man, not so young anymore, and he has worked his way up from the agent ranks into there. But he's an outsider. He's still not old old world Lakers. Then there's the LeBron James camp which runs things wherever wherever LeBron James goes, it becomes a LeBron James operation. So when you say, it's a mess. Mike, that's the mess. You've got three elements going on that are all kind of motivated by different impetus. It's like the old Soviet Union. Breaking up. It's a little bit like that. You know, they're kind of motivated by their own thing. Lebron will bring his truck and his and his crew we know how to run the show here. The Lakers have their whole this is the Laker way. And rob Pelinka sitting in from the from the titles. He's got the management. He's got the position. But I don't know if you've got the power and magic and him I think we're sort of closer United at one point. But once magic fell off the teeter totter now he's out there all by himself. So I don't get they couldn't reach an agreement with tied. Lou. Like that to me was was I thought well for sure he's gonna come back. Of course, LeBron wants him they had success before. And then they sell like their low balling Tyler. I mean, they offered him three years instead of five was was Bob, you know, more about these deals than I do was was he in the wrong to demand like you have to wait about what long has been passage. You get a five year deal. He was saying that Luke Walton got a five year deal, and he was in the. Virus coach, you know. And I'm a championship coach to me all respect to tie Lou. But his record matches. Lebron James record. You can't take them apart. So yes, you yeah. It's wonderful while look at all those games you one. Yeah. You wanna championship? But the same exact thing with with LeBron James take LeBron James off the team. And what was Tyler is record. So I don't know was he right? Was he wrong to walk away from that? I think he was myself. I do overrating himself. I got this image guy. So how historically when an ambassador goes to the country. He presents his credentials. You know? Well, if I were cartoonist today, here's what have I'd have King James sitting in his throne with a with the crown and robes and staff, and I'd have Frank Vogel humbly on his knees handling. Handing over his credentials for examination by King James as all right? All right have now. Let's get to the even more stunning coaching news. And and Mitch because he's he's he's from your guy. Okay. And we Bob, and I are are John beeline fan boys of long stamp holding up my membership card because Bobby you coulda knocked me over when I found out the John beeline of Michigan is the new coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers. Yeah. Well, okay. I will I I will say I am a stunt as you guys are I know John I liked Ambiente. I really respect them. And I've seen him in the setting at Michigan. And he just blends in he is one of those guy. He really, you know, there's there's college coaches who say I bleed. My my school's colors, I love, and then there's the ones who actually do he really did. And when he flirted with the. The idea of coaching the pistons last year, this is where it all began. He flirted with the idea of coaching with the pistons. We were surprised to hear that what you're gonna consider the pisses. Well, you know, maybe just taking an interview he then excused himself from that process before they got to the point where they were going to offer jobs. He kind of got the sense that he wasn't going to be offered the job and he took himself out of the running. And at that time, he said, I think fate is sort of saying to me this is where you belong and your career Michigan. They did a long contract within those supposed to take them two thousand twenty three. And then he'd be retired by that point be seventies. And now all of a sudden he's going to coach the Cleveland Cavaliers, this is all I can suspect. I have no this happened so fast. I don't have any data on this. So this is my suspicion. You have to remember that Dan Gilbert owns the Cleveland Cavaliers, Dan Gilbert lives in Michigan. He is a Detroit guy. Even though he owns a Cavalier's everything in Detroit is companies here in Detroit all the rest of it. And i'm. Sure. He even though we went to Michigan state. I'm sure he's a Michigan fan. I am imagining that he had had some kind of connection with beeline personal that he made it easy for his family to stay there and commute back and forth and probably offered him some kind of incredible deal that you know, a job you might not get anywhere else. And just made it to tempting, and I think at sixty six belong say if I don't do this now, I never will my whole life. I wanna see what it's like to coach in the NBA. Is it a smart move? Bob, I'll defer to you guys on this joining the NBA at sixty six after a career in college. It's a newly built in. Okay. His retirement and is all set eventually. But I don't I think it's crazy this. I hope it Mitch. I like him so much. I respect him so much. I've liked the way his teams play basketball every stop he's made. And I'll just there's a boat of put on this. I hope. If it works out because he has been a distinguished citizen of the game for longtime. This is this is a college basketball loss. This is this is a high level gentleman and great great coach and the top. This is a big loss, by the way. Darning anyway rates just opened up a great. I'm fearful I won't say I'm wary and fearful I won't say skeptical because I know he's talented. But, but I just it's God, you need this sixty six and in Cleveland, you know, that why not take over the Lakers. They had an opening the NBA. Well, you just explain, but you just very plausible explanations to why it's yeah. But I think it is time. Running shots here with all this basketball in here. And Mike Luca wanna to lead us off. There's no way of knowing what the last three quarters of the baseball season will be like the Boston Red Sox because even the guy on jeopardy who knows everything couldn't have know what the first quarter of the season would be like for the depending chance. But what we do know after the way the Red Sox started three and eight and six and thirteen and manage to get three games over five hundred by mother's day is that their manager. Alex Cora has given a masterclass in what the great Pete Hamill likes to call an old fashioned thing called grace. It was a lot of being Corre last season all the way through as brilliant and October as any manager has ever had. But then the early innings of this season became the old Mike Tyson line about how everybody's got a plan till they get hit the Red Sox got hit hard on their opening eleven game road trip. And if people wanted to see panic would filter down from the top they're still waiting Cora was Corre telling everybody. We're going to be fine even after another bad loss, and guess what they aren't. Now, here's a hearty sports before to salute to the one and only Edwin Jackson. No, he's not going to Cooperstown with a career record of one. Oh, four and one twenty three and a career four point six. Oh. But there should be some mentioned there of his amazing baseball journey. He is the newest member of the Toronto Blue Jays. And this means he is now broken the record this fourteenth big-league stop. He began with the dodgers in two thousand three and he has always been good enough to take a look at that quite good enough to keep long-term along the way, he was an all star as Mitch. So I'm sure easily with calls with Detroit in two thousand nine and he threw a no hitter as diamond back in two thousand ten but not just any old no hitter. That wouldn't be Edwin MO in his no hitter, he walked eight men and through one hundred and forty nine pitches now, that's a manly. No, no. I'm old enough to remember when the record during the sixteen team pre expansion world of baseball was eight held by dick Littlefield. Sorry. I couldn't help showing off. That's my. Often college basketball you hear about the recruiting class the incoming class. How one school has the number one and number ten prospect or how one school has three recruits in the such and such top one hundred usually these schools are named Kentucky or Duke. And if you want to know why so many recruits keep going those schools take a look at a different list the list of top NBA draft prospects for this year as we're about to have the draft lottery. Number one Zion. Williamson went to Duke number three r j Barrett went to Duke number seven Cam reddish went to Duke. We always look at the incoming list checkout that outgoing list one three and seven it's that kind of list that makes the incoming list tilt dukes way, and as long as coach Kane coach Calipari keep those kind of rankings for the kids who leave. They'll have no problem getting kids to commit. That's going to wrap it up for today's program. We do the sports reporters podcast every Monday and Thursday. You can find it pretty much anywhere, you find popular podcast, including on the Stitcher platform until we see you again on Thursday on behalf of Mike Lupu and Bob Ryan. This is Mitch Albom. Saying have a great week.

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MLB's Black Voices and the Exile of Oakland A's Bruce Maxwell

ESPN Daily

25:12 min | 10 months ago

MLB's Black Voices and the Exile of Oakland A's Bruce Maxwell

"I was minding my own business like usual. When the phone rang a couple of Saturdays ago, and it was Bruce Maxwell. Howard Brian is a senior writer for ESPN and has been covering Major League Baseball for over twenty years. He recently wrote about Bruce Maxwell the only player to kneel during the national anthem in two thousand seventeen. And I didn't know because I had bruises number, but Bruce was calling me from five three area code nine I. Know My international codes in Europe, but I had no idea where the five three wasn't. He was calling me from clover from Mexico. He was really sort of upset about the idea that. All of these guys, especially from the major league draft you had all these executives holding up black lives, matter signs and he's like what about me? have. We forgotten what what happened to me. Athletes across the world are kneeling to protest racial injustice, but when COM Cabernet start the movement back in two thousand sixteen with hardly mainstream. In only one major league baseball player. A catcher for the Oakland days joined his cause. Today the story of what happened to Bruce Maxwell after he kneeled, and how black baseball players everywhere are finding their voices speaking out? I mean at times. It's Wednesday July fifteenth. This. IS ESPN daily? Hey Howard. Thanks for joining us today. Could do here. So in the present tense right now, athletes across the world across sports are speaking out. They're taking a knee. It's no longer considered controversial, certainly not to degree. It was when Colin Kaepernick I kneeled twenty-six team back then not every sport embrace suggestion in fact far from it Howard and write about Major League Baseball, which as you said it's? It's having its own reckoning with race right now. How is cabinets? Protest perceived back then? Back then cap annex protest was perceived does as a different universe. It was perceived as well. That's what's happening on football and Lebron. James may be doing his thing in basketball. And Meghan repeal maybe taking her knee and soccer, but don't think that any of that is going to translate to baseball. Black players don't talk about anything in baseball. They haven't spoken since. Hank Aaron was playing. The, very first reaction in baseball was not our problem. We don't do this. This is not our culture. Around this time in the fall of two dozen, seventeen for the world was interested Bruce Maxwell. What do you think motivated him to follow cavernous footsteps in kneel during the national anthem. While it started when trump gave a speech in Huntsville and referred to the kneeling. NFL players SOB's. Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners? When somebody disrespects our flag to say, get that son of a job the field right now out. He's fired. fired. Bruce. Maxwell was watching that he realized that this was the last straw for him that he had to get involved in this fight. So what happened on September twenty, third, two, thousand seventeen. That morning. Bruce Maximal told his team and he told his manager Bob Belvin that he was Gonna protest, he was going to a knee on the field. and Michael's garrison. The as photographer has a fantastic picture of. Of, the players lined up along the first base line. And they're all wearing their white jerseys, and there's Bruce Maxwell taking a knee while the rest of his team is standing with Mark Hanna his teammate with his hand on the shoulder in support. Tonight in a is catcher becomes the first player in Major League baseball now to kneel during the national anthem this evening Bruce Maxwell took a knee, placed his camp over his heart and face the flag. The as organization reacted saying in a statement, the Oakland A.'s pride ourselves on being inclusive, we support all of our players, constitutional rights and freedom of expression. What was your reaction when Maxwell I neil? Did you know he was? No I didn't know at all it a year service time and I had no idea. I didn't I. got a call from the as asking me. To take a look at this because there was really sort of interesting with the team called me I think they trusted me because that was the first team that I covered back in the dark ages of one, thousand, nine, hundred, Ninety, eight, and I didn't know who bruce was. I didn't know what he was all about and at first when I first. First saw the first picture because Bruce's lights added. No, he was black. I was like Damn. Okay, so he's Biracial so. I had to go in dig into this a little bit in the as actually set up the two of US talking in I, appreciate it what he was saying. The hardest part of inaugural problems is the lack of information all these. Actions are going on around the NFL NBA, and now on the baseball, field. Unfortunately. It didn't seem like he was particularly reckless on the subject. More emotional than well read on it, but certainly emotion is what gets people interested in things. In this country that are in the industry, because the color of their skin, or where they come from or their heritage, or whatever have you? But you have to remember meeting the thing about baseball. Is You now as well as anybody you know it's not like football where football has that culture or basketball? Has that culture of drawing attention to yourself baseball? Mean guys want to charge the mount over a stupid backflip so anything that looks remotely close to grandstanding or drawing attention to yourself or or putting yourself ahead of the group's guys are going to be really skeptical. Skeptical so inside of that room. They viewed him as well. You know he's just is so flaky. Dude, WHO's trying to draw attention to himself? Even the black players I talked to like hey, man. He hasn't done enough in the game to say anything. And then of course there were the other guys in the game. The other black players in the game are like what's he doing? Seer was the was the number one reaction. Fear for him, isn't he? Realized what's going to happen to him by taking a move, I got in this sport. How did the reaction Bruce Scott from his teammates and players around the league, or maybe the lack of reactions, a better way to put? It affected him personally. I think he was stunned by the lack of support, and I think he was wounded by the isolation of it all. He had been getting death threats ever since he takes takes the knee. He went to Texas and his teammates were joking with him about not wanting to stay next to him because they might get hit with sniper fire. And I think he got angry I think he got very angry at the fact that he was putting himself out there. And, he was willing to put himself out there for something that he thought was right. And then suddenly he was the guy who was kneeling in major league baseball when nobody else did, and even by some supporters or tacit support was viewed as the troublemaker. And I think that hurt him it. Certainly, it certainly angered him. And then on October twenty eighth, just over a month after his initial protests, things took a really terrible turn for Maxwell. What did he tell you about that night? He told me. He'd been carrying a gun. He'd been carrying a nine MIL for. Forever, and because he's like I've always lived in open carry. States have always had a permanent forward. I didn't know he was pack. He's always carrying his gun on him, and so it turns out. He got drunk and order. Take out. Any fell asleep. And when the doorbell rang, he was startled in didn't remember that he had ordered. It didn't know who it was had his gun by his side opens the door and there's the delivery person. She said he pointed the gun directly at her face. He pays for his food. Takes the food goes away. She goes down to her car. She calls nine one one, and then he surrounded by ten cops immediately following. and. The TMZ video was just unbelievable. America. Yeah. That's the reason why the need. Half of Our country is afraid of of. He's on his knees screaming at police officers. On comfortable on this. One WanNa, watch the police does unjust. Paid the four. Screaming at them about for Landau Casteel and about Eric Garner about Michael Brown and the whole thing, so you can see. He's having a nervous breakdown when you watch that video. Raghav, white people chasing. Private stop. Facing them cops running. And you got black people that are legally carry a weapon. You shoot them in that car. Would they family. And, so you really watching the integration of person? This. person. Enough. Shoot me. Because right now find for? Northern. Of all. Albie. That incident of itself changed everything all of a sudden. He wasn't a leader anymore now he was a loose cannon couldn't be trusted. And now a felon and the question was going to be now. Obviously, the protest took very much vaccine to the legal side of it. So. What happened to Bruce after the arrest? Stood by him, and he came to camp, and they told him he was their number one catcher in the whole thing, the shows up to camp, overweight and then. That was another area where people were looking at him. Going okay. Can this really be trusted one? You took a knee in a sport. That doesn't Neil to you've got a felony. Charge on the organization stands by you. You've got to be perfect, and you come to camp twenty pounds overweight. He's never really recovered from any of that aftermath. He got sent down to Nashville in June. And then they DFM them. They designated him for assignment. Howard you said at the start of the story. You received a call from breese maxwell from Mexico. Where is he now? Maxwell is in the city of Clova about three hours southwest of Laredo Texas. He's been playing for the. Of the Mexican League. And, he starting his second year now, but then that league shut down as well. Thought. He was going to come back to the states when they shut down, but he's decided to stay in Mexico. The Oakland A.'s were willing to bring. Bruce Maxwell back, but no other team was. Bruce SORTA didn't feel wanted he didn't feel like the as wanted him. He felt like they were doing a favor for Dave Stewart. Whose Maxwell's agent and legendary Pitcher for the Oakland as? He didn't want to be a charity case in his mind to his mind. The other twenty nine teams are still blackballing him because somebody needs catching out there and nobody was willing to call him. It's interesting to me that you use the word perfect, because it sounds like even before the arrests and the incident, he was viewed internally as a quote Unquote Imperfect Messenger Right. which is something that happens a lot with these stories with these kinds of protests where the messengers attacked or questioned in his case, he wasn't established enough. He wasn't known enough to make take such a stand, and then that critique shifted and became something that had to do with his reputation off the field. That's right. The. Imperfect Messenger is also the imperfect victim. You gotta be the a student remember Michael Brown near Times. He was no angel so in other words. If you've got any blemishes on your resume, you deserved whatever happened to you. The thing about Bruce at that time in twenty, seventeen was I think he was also expecting backup. He was expecting the elders to show. He was expecting the C.. Bath is and the Andrew mccutchen. Bet says and all these guys, the big guys in the sport to show up. I think Bruce. Maxwell thought when he ran up that hill, the other black players. We're going to be behind him and they weren't. After the break. Let's talk about how Maxwell feels about everything. That's happening now in baseball and Beyond and where the sport is on these issues in the present. Volvo helps protect what matters most your family. The Volvo XC NINETY SUV offers a range of advanced safety features like an available built in booster seat for your kids, safety and comfort in a blind spot information system that has your back in alerts you to cars in your blind spot wherever you go, some are safely explore exclusive offers on the exceed ninety during the Volvo summer safely savings event visit Volvo cars dot com slash us to learn more. How're you ve been covering baseball for more than twenty years? How would you characterize the relationship between the League and its black players? Well. It's very interesting relationship on the one hand. You've got the sport that is completely. Handcuffed by the legacy in the specter of Jackie Robinson every April fifteenth. All the teams go out, and they were they wear forty two ladies and gentlemen. Each year on April fifteenth the Dodger Organization and Major League Baseball honor a true American hero Jackie Robinson. and. They talk about the Great Jackie. Robinson may talk about Jackie Robinson's courage and everything that he did for America. Serves as a constant reminder to continue to educate people on what Jackie did not just for the game of baseball, but for the advancement of individual rights you're in America and around the world. And nobody practices in baseball because they've essentially muzzled. The black voice in baseball black baseball players. have believed for decades and I. Don't mean ever since Ferguson I'm talking since the. That the sport doesn't want them. Recently as much as the last twenty twenty five years, the numbers have dropped so much better seven point, seven percent black players, sixty black players in the entire game in the opening day, twenty, one, thousand, nine hundred, and so it's a very tense relationship, but on the other hand there's no other sport. That's got a greater and deeper history of black camaraderie than baseball, because the numbers were always so low, and because they were the first American Corporation to really integrate and abroad level before the military before schools before everything the Bob Gibson's in the Willie mays is in the Hank Aaron's. They were all tight, even though they were on opposite teams. Today's black player doesn't feel that same connection. That connection is nowhere near what it used to be. But there are things happening right now. Amidst the current movement around racial justice that could reverse that trend. You started diving into the story of Bruce Maxwell. Just as something called a players alliance was taking shape. What is that? And how did it come together? After Kovin hit, the black players had started this group chat that was just for. Just for covert updates. Nobody knew when opening day was gonNA start. Guys were Kinda figure out who was in close proximity to each other to. If they could have some SORTA, social distancing workouts are just to keep up on things. And that after Minneapolis hit, Cameron Maiden, who was playing for the Yankees lascaux signed with the Tigers. He had texted Edwin Jackson. WHO has played for everybody Edwin? Jackson played seventeen years in the big leagues. He played for four teams. Those who started talking and then Dee Gordon started talking, and so suddenly the Kovin informational hotline turned into a George Floyd Group chat and Cameron's point really was hey, guys. We gotta do. Something enough is enough. The goal has been well. Let's see if we can get twenty years. And then suddenly twenty twenty to thirty and thirty to sixty, and suddenly they at one hundred thirty guys both retired and active. That told Cameron, and that told Edwin Jackson and G Gordon Curtis. GRANDERSON NCCC bathroom. All of these guys that suddenly that those links were alive after all and now we need to do something with these links. What can we do? So they had decided to create what they ended up terming the players alliance. Untold peaceful please would not make it at the right time at the right place the right way. We'd been told to wait. When Dr Martin Luther. King Junior warned us that the word weight. Has Almost always. Away no longer will make our voices louder for all of us can. It sorta models itself after the players coalition in the NFL in some ways. The. Players were actually talking to each other on two levels one. They recognize that they were part of a special heritage in baseball and two. They were finally getting involved in social in a social issue. It is the dominant social issue in sports over the past half decade. The fact of the matter is that everybody was talking about the Lebron James out there doing his thing. You had the Saint Louis Rams doing their thing with hands up. Don't shoot, but you'd never heard anything from baseball players, and so this was really interesting moment to see maybe the revival of that black commodity that you have an ad in baseball for so long. Would you say the dearth of black players in the fact that trend line has? Been Increasing explains why that alliance didn't exist. When Bruce Maxwell kneeled why he didn't get that support, he craved. Absolutely if you're looking around, and you're the only black player on a given team, you don't feel like you've got the security that you need to have to make a stand. What are those players have to say today about Bruce? Maxwell's experienced back in two thousand seventeen. Mother apologetic now they're looking at this and they're saying we should have been there and we aren't and I think that they all feel a bit of. Embarrassment in some ways because bruce feels vindicated in a lot of ways, the Colin Kaepernick feels indicated on the one hand. Everyone is sort of pleased that guys are talking on the other hand the questions. Are you talking because Theo Epstein Brody bandwagon and everybody else at the draft said it was okay because they put up the black lives. Matter Signs, which tells you it's safe. When I asked stu about this Dave Stewart, said to me that that what these guys did back in two thousand, seventeen to bruce was horrible. It was the equivalent of of a black guy getting his Ashby street by a bunch of white guys in the black guys just sitting around watching so there is a feeling of pressure that these guys have to make this right. You compared him to call in capper. Nick the difference of course that Kaepernick is now. I. Don't want to say you know portrayed. Everyone is a hero, but he has risen to this figure widely seen right Howard as this pivotal figure in sports history. Bruce Maxwell by comparison has been forgotten by a lot of people. How do you think this is all affected him personally now. He's late. Listen I did what I did. I did for the right reasons and. And I'm happy Bryan. The climate of what's happening in the United States I think is really wounded him and to the point where I think, he feels more mentally comfortable outside of the country right now. But there's no question that it really really really hurts him that he didn't have the support that he needed that support. He wasn't willing to walk alone at that time in two thousand seventeen, and that's the reason why it's so painful for him now to see all these guys talking to eagerly about their experiences. When there was risk when there was a chance that the culture wasn't going to approve of you, you stay quiet. Thanks so much our. My pleasure, thank you. Coming up. Why chiefs fans aren't the only ones saying congratulations to their quarterback. Here's another story I want you to know. It's been a busy and expensive few days for the Kansas City chiefs. I The team signed superstar quarterback Patrick Mahomes to unprecedented tenure deal worth up to five hundred three million dollars, then on Tuesday news broke that defensive tackle Chris Joensuu you last saw terrorizing Jimmy, Garoppolo in the Super Bowl signed a four year deal worth up to eighty five million dollars. Clearly the team thinks it's got a dynasty in place in Kansas. City fans aren't the only ones who probably hope that's true. Because according to a profile mahomes that ran G. Q. This week by Klay Skipper, the rapper posts, Malone, and no, it's confusing how much his name sounds like. Pat Mahomes now has the quarterback's name. That of stud tight end Travis Kelsey etched into his body like forever. The story goes something like this. Musician was performing Kansas City the day of the team Super Bowl parade mahomes and Kelsey asked for sweet to see the show as typical winners do and postpone invited them to say load for the concert. Mahomes brought him chiefs Jersey as a thank. You and Malone challenge them to a game of beer pong. Rising Momzette Kelsey absolutely dominated. One game turned into several games. Post Malone see lake couldn't find a way to win. He tried everything to beat them. Which Partners Multiple Times until they had played about fourteen or fifteen games of beer pong total? Desperately. Malone decided to up the stakes, so he asked homes and Kelsey to provide him with their signatures, saying that if they beat him one time, he'd get them tattooed onto his body. In the face of Singley insurmountable pressure, mahomes and Kelsey connected like they have so many times before defeating post Malone one more time. was just one more W for a team. That seems to be racking them up these days. and. This has been ESPN daily. I'll talk to you tomorrow.

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"<music> what's up folks is chris broussard and i'm here with my partner rob parker and together. We are the odd couple that's right. Join kristen me every we days we give you the hottest spicy sports takes that you won't hear anywhere else and for the record rob parker is the one i'm the more reasonable board what so listen to the couple with chris bruce hart and rock on apple podcast four or the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts the burke shares to the sound from wherever you live in m._l._b. America this he's inside the parker. Can you give us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop on major league baseball. Now here's baseball hall of fame voter number. What three rob parker you're welcome into inside the parker podcast. I'm your host rob parker and coming up on the show pat mahomes former among major league pitcher and yes the father of n._f._l. Quarterback patrick mahomes plus. We'll talk with m._l._b. Dot com detroit tiger beat wider. Jason beck that and so much more. Let's go back to lead off. It's getting robbed and keep them up. Rob's take the three biggest stories in major league baseball number one. What a season for christian yelich from the milwaukee brewers. He has a chance of doing something so special. In fact no-one in major league baseball has ever done it he he has a chance to be the first player in baseball history to hit fifty home runs and thirty stolen bases in a single season. He's he's got a major league. Best thirty nine home runs as of tuesday and twenty three steals so he needed eleven more home runs and seven more steals in the brewers final forty three games as definitely not going to be easy but it is not impossible for him to break through to this whole it would be incredible. What a season. He's been able to put put together and dan right now. What is current numbers. He's on pace for fifty three home runs and thirty one steals who would've would've ever thought that christian yelich would be that guy to be the first step and we always heard about the forty forty there used to be thirty thirty club but imagine the fifty thirty club and christian yelich would be the first guy to enter those uncharted waters. I'm watching. I'm waiting and i'm hoping number two don't look now but one of the most popular managers in baseball joe. Madden is a lame duck manager with the chicago. Cops doesn't have a contract for next year. Cubs of course are in the play offs mad and of course the only manager who was able to win a world series breaking that one hundred and eight year drought back in two thousand sixteen with the world series win over the cleveland indians. Men is the only manager in cubs history to lead the team. I'm to four consecutive postseason berth. He's done everything is chicago and yet he has no deal for next year and dan. You know what people should wonder about it. Wonder if joe man's going to school the same way of all the other veteran managers in major league baseball always have decided they don't wanna pay the older guys they'd rather use young guys analytics they'd rather make out the lineups in the front office rather than let managers do it in the dugout. We saw dusty baker. We saw joe girardi. We saw a buck show walter walter. We saw john farrell. We saw all these old. Tom skippers get shuttled out and not to be seen again. Is this going to happen to joe. Madden madden says he remains optimistic about getting a new deal with the cubs but it is interesting that he went into the season without without having more than just this season on a contract despite the cubs all the success that he's had the oh epstein the president of baseball all operations says that <hes> he'll wait and see sit down at some point and they'll discuss the future of joe madden and let's face it unless they win a world series. It doesn't seem as if the cubs interested in bringing back joe madden number three just when you were ready to write the cleveland indians off in the a._l. Central and the twins have been dominating most of the year. The indians now went back in the first place on monday. They somehow someway were able to do it on a walk. Call home run. The indians were twenty six and twenty six in the last week of may they were like eleven and a half games behind the minnesota the twins in the first week of june but since june fourth the record went to forty three and seventeen the best in baseball and it's hard not to look at their manager terry francona and not think to yourself cherry had something to do with this terry was able to get this team righted. It just looked like it was going to go astray that the indians were basically dead in the water. Were going to have a chance took compete again. Come october. Come the play offs. Maybe even the world series but <hes> you know what there it is. The indians indians are alive and well and it's hard not to give terry francona. Most of the credit here comes the big interview via. Listen handler which so good i let's welcome to the podcast pat mahomes a former major league pitcher pitch with a number of teams minnesota boston. The mets rangers cubs pirates also played a couple of years in in japan pat. Thanks for joining the program forever pat. How much is baseball changed since you pitched back again last year. You pitch was two thousand three. Do you recognize this game. <hes> it's a lot different. You know <hes> i actually you know do a lot of stuff with <hes> m._l._b. and the n._f. L. e._p._a. You know running camps for some of the <hes> younger kids <hes> the kids that are getting ready to going high school and the kids that are in high school <hes> <hes> <hes> so we have about thirty thirty five <hes> former big league players and we have camps down and vero beach florida so you know it's still the same game but we're just trying gotta bring some of the old stuff back no doubt about it. Now i saw of cautious. Your son is patrick mahomes with the kansas city chiefs who just had had an unbelievable breakout second year m._v._p. I see i've seen video of him as a pitcher. How good was he. We know how good he is a football player how how good was he has a baseball pitcher well. He was a hard thrower. I know <hes> thank you ninety six by the time he was the senior <hes> for the pitcher. I mean <hes> you use the word loosely. I may throw a lot of strikes struck out. A lot of guys didn't give up a lot of hits but he was more of a position player than he was pitching. How did you get him to play two sports. You know the big thing now in a._a._u. And a lot of these coaches they want kids to specialize in one thing and i'm still i'm still bothered by it because we just saw kyla murray play baseball and football and become the first i player ever to be drafted in the first round in both sports so what how did you patrick to play. Both we actually played three you know he played all three two victory. Hey you know i played all grey. <hes> he grew up that way playing all of them so i i just didn't wanna limited options and as people you know starting to realize you know so the others can help you know whatever sport you choose to specialize in once you have to make that decision but until somebody makes you make a decision agent you know i think it's best to keep all your options open because you never know what's gonna develop like you know him. I mean he really did start playing quarterback to his junior a year in and and and and high school and he took off so i mean he always had baseball option opening at the basketball option open and and <hes> he was actually would have been drafted. You know at the sandwich pick in the first round but he he told him that the money wasn't right so <hes> hand up <hes> he wanted to go play okay football and that's what he did. Did you know i mean. I know everybody says well. I can remember having conversations in detroit and sessile filter back. Then was always telling telling me about prints man my son man. He's a stud. You know he's so good. Did you know your son was going to be. I mean rip up the record books in the n._f._l. Or did you think you had a chance to be able to good quarterback. Did you really know add something special to be honest with you. A football would have been the last one. I thought he would have play <hes>. I knew about the age he was five six years old. I actually made a bed with one of my coaches that i was playing with that. He was going to be a a first round pick and baseba- <hes> he was he was just a special kid. <hes> the way learned away process information i do that with his ability and how strong is on was that he was gonna rabba chance to do some things. There was a report that just came out about the drop in kids participating in the state to california in football. I think it's down twenty percent participation. Do you understand why some people wouldn't want their kids to play football are you you concerned about the long term effects on your son playing football or or do you just accept it that it's a part of the game well i understand understand the concerns i mean anytime that you see what's going on with the guys you know with all the concussions and all the things that are happening. I mean i have some some lingering effects from playing baseball. You know that you know things that still bother me every day but <hes> you know i got lucky. He got to play the position where they don't get here too much. You know as long as you're smart you know you can always take the intention of ground and you can always throw the ball away so i was you know fortunate and lucky enough to actually <hes> each position to playing in exhaled at it. I said earlier that you have played for six so seven different major league teams including a japanese team and you play the longest in minnesota. Is that the team you feel because <hes> they drafted you brought you up is that is that you debuted with them. Is that the team you feel. Most closely to the twins would be the myth you know our. I always wanted to be a new york met. When i was in high school. <hes> you know i grew up you know <hes> following dot good and and and darryl strawberry and those guys have always wanted to be met and then once i got the chance to go there actually thought i was going to get drafted by them and then the twin scooped in in chosen does not the pitcher because we're gonna drag me as an outfielder and <hes> once i got there and the success i had there this assess the team had you know going into the n._f._l. C._s. and ninety nine and then going to the world series two thousand he just felt like all playing the yankees in two thousand net subway series. What was that like can new york. Just we live a net of the crowds both teams in one city. What was that like. Do you remember that it's a feeling i can't just grab <hes> you know <hes> i was actually with the twin nine and one went to world series and that was pretty amazing. <hes> i actually wasn't you know on the team yet that was they called me up to get the experience because they knew i was going to be the next year but in two thousand the yankees and the mets. I never seen anything like it and you know it's electric. <hes> great series <hes> one. We should have probably one but you know how you know how to fall houses. <hes> you know clemens p._i. The thing and all that stuff you're just took a turn for the worse. His name is pat mahomes former major league pitcher of course his son n._f._l. N._f._l. quarterback patrick mahomes with the kansas city chiefs. Hey pat thank you so much for doing this. We appreciate you joining the podcast anytime rob and once again. Thank you alpe having me and <hes> thank you all the words you say about my son and everything i watch you all the time and it's great to be on this. I appreciate that thank you so much all right. Thank you pay clay travis host of the outkick. The coverage podcast join me every day. I give you the nation strongest opinions on the biggest stories reason sports. If you're looking for a sports podcast it's smart original funny and authentic outkick. The coverage of clay travis the perfect podcast for you. I even recently really wants to brand new podcast called wins and losses with clay travis which features long conversations with the biggest names in sports business entertainment listen on apple podcast or the iheartradio iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts it's time for the pocket protector centrum the analytic numbers. You need to know well. Maybe f s one's anthony masterson his name bs analytics is his game. What's a guy for me. Anthony anthony overall the term clutch has been a point of contention between the old and new schools for years. Is there really a clutch gene just hitting with men on hitting in the postseason well. We've got to put a number on the whole clutch. Controversy win probability added now w._p._a. Is a perfect context. Dependent stat goes in conjunction with the game win. Probability graph in players get credit based on how much or how little action contributes to their odds of winning now a home run and a tie it is it's obviously worth more than homer in the fifth inning tend to one game right now. Win probability added highlights the big and usually most exciting moments of the game on monday the red sox zander bogart's at a game tying double indians closer brad hand with two outs in the ninth the win probability added of that play was zero point three eight uh-huh or thirty eight percent because it took boston's win probability from eight percent to forty six percent absolutely right that up over the course of a season and this the brewers christian yelich owns a six point one w a this season or the number better than the next two on the list cody bellinger and mike trout. We're probability attic until you who the real which players are once and for all wild anthony something finally can use a love it thanks so much it was a big week in the big leagues or is it fair and now fear shadow league dot com m._l._b. Insider j._r. gamble tanking m._l._b. Seem to be at an all time hottest season. There are so many bad teams is it fair foul j._r. to say that m._l._b. Should take a page out of the premier league's book and institude relegation where the six worst teams three from. I'm rich league are sent down to aaa it would never happen but should it fair and they'll be half to to do something. The tigers orioles have already lost were eighty games. The royals aren't paid a hundred games and the blue jays staring at one hundred losses for the first time in four decades the made the market teams dominating and i never thought we'd get to the point where m._l._b. Squad i think like n._b._a. N._b._a. teams and thank you for draft picks were here. We are when the season again. There were realistically about him teams with a shot to win it all now. There's about four yankees houston cleveland. Maybe the dodgers you can change a couple of different teams but you get my drift from in two thousand and two thousand six. We had a different theme when the world series every year since two thousand six at boston win it three times the giants win it three three times and in recent years it's been about boston houston and the yankees the players union will never allow it but sending it i three teams down from each league would not only be embarrassing for the franchise or definitely inspired them to leave not be the worst team in the lead even while rebuilding if the creative the idea but unfortunately i don't think it would ever happen. I'm with you would never happen so let's just go up that fasten. Your seatbelt. Here comes parker's top three n._f._l. B._t.'s this week <music> number three the houston astros common into tuesday. There were seventy seven in forty forty one and just continue to win. The only bad spot was that everybody wants they traded for exact grinky thought it was gonna. I wanna be a piece of cake that they had three top guys in their starting rotation of course garrett cole justin berlin zach cranky but grinky was rocked walked in his houston debut so that didn't make people feel that good at least not yet. There's still one of the best teams easily the top three teams name could be interchanged but we're gonna go with houston at number three number two the los angeles dodgers coming into tuesday's seventy seventy nine and eighty one an incredible record. They continue to win again. The only bugaboo about the bullpen. I talk about it every week because i think that ultimately is going to be the dodgers downfall but as far as everything else that the dodgers have going it's a team that's hard to not like hard not to think that they're gonna make it to the world series for third year in a row and also oh look as if they're going to be a hard out because they're so talented so deep and scores so many runs but the ball pen remember. I warned you it's the reason the dodgers aren't the number one team and instead or number two number one the the number one team this week again the new york freaking yankees. I know you get tired of me saying it. I told you early on way where we're even with all the injuries how good this team has been won eight of their last ten and coming into tuesday. There were seventy nine and forty one again only forty forty one loss is when you look at all the injuries and all the things that's going on with this team. It's amazing where they are and if they were able to get some of their star players back how dangerous this team is again as of tuesday there were plus one fifty nine second best in the american league and they just keep steamrolling in over teams that are good and they feasted on the baltimore orioles and that's what you do too bad teams. You beat him up. The hit home runs and you continue you to mount those wins despite some bumps in the road by their starters. The yankees are the best team in baseball. Thank god the it's time for trash. Talk twitter with your chance to trash anyone or anything. In major league baseball this week's winner is at lea- delap and he tweeted this. My pick for national league rookie of the year is fernando. Totti's he's junior forget pete alonzo and all his home runs tat teaches only the second rookie shortstop ever with at least twenty wanting home runs and fifteen stolen bases in a single season. He is the national league rookie of the year. If you want on a chance to win a new era snapback just like lee send your tries to add rob parker f s one on twitter <music> hi everybody it's colin coward here host of the ever-growing heard podcast. I'm the honesty business. You know that i don't feel i tell you what you want to hear but i can even we talk every day about the sports stories. You have opinions on the heard podcast network. Now is a one stop shop for all sports. Fans listened listened heard that h. e. r. d. with colin coward on apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts when rob was a newspaper columnist he lived by this motto. If i'm reiten i'm rippin. Let's bring in a writer of broadcaster older new. Let's walk them into the podcast. A buddy of mine longtime detroit tigers beat writer seventeen years in fact jason beck from m._l._b. M._l._b. dot com jason. Thanks for joining the podcast. Thank me on your album fan of the podcast. I love listening tool. I'm going for a run and it's a great beyond. Thank you so much. Let's talk about the terrible tigers. That's what i'm gonna call him and boy. What a bad year. Detroit is this had at one point they had lost twenty eight out of thirty two and it looks like they might set the tigers or the losing record occurred all time in the american league for a regular season. They've kinda stem the tide a little bit. What's going wrong in detroit. Oh gosh <hes>. I mean you can look at it. Short long short term they signed veteran free agents who they hoped would kind of help them <hes> through the season and basically none of them have worked out more enticing ause. You know we're supposed to stabilize the rotation. <hes> more was done for the year by the end of may thanks to a knee injury ross i'd be i'd be surprised if we see him again again. This season peaks between <hes> drastic outlet symptoms neck issues. He hasn't pitched since i think may may <hes> josh harrison really didn't do much at all for them. Kind middle of the spring training <hes> jordan mercer's been okay but not great great. He missed a good chunk with <hes> quite issues so those are short-term issues long-term issues and you know this rob being around here you know this team is paying the price for trying to extend a window of contention for as long as they did instead of <hes> young waiting so long to carry down and try art re-build <hes> you can look at what they tried to do and sixteen and seventeen as having to the damage <hes> you know the george zimmerman contract was a huge weight on these guys that contract extension that they gave me go career just insane and they're really they're caught in the middle ground right now where her hair trying to me build a farm system that really good decimated by some lost draft picks and also guide no word of mouth philosophy. They basically operated under the better part of the decade speaking of miguel cabrera. Whoa what is the deal mickey. Megi lost his power. I mean he's a singles hitter. Now is your what's happened to. Maybe i think the injuries of caught help with him. I really i mean you. You saw some of the things he played through over the years here. You played for growing tier at one point. He played through the century. What was a broken foot. The one year down the stretch <hes> he's played through lower leg like problems. He played to back injuries more recently band. He's paying the price for that. <hes> he's he's had to remake his swing to join extent to try to take some pressure off of his legs because there's been so much wear and tear down there and now you're kind of seeing some better results sold for you're not seeing the power that used to happen given his age and then give me injuries. I don't know if we're going to see that type of power ever again. <hes> i do think he's got double digit horon power. I don't know we'll see him gather teams again in his career unless he makes some the major adjustment and find something really clicks for them and i think you can live with that if he still three hundred either and i think he's going george tweaks and adjustments right now to try to get back to that point speaking of home runs unbelievable. The most home runs at comerica park this this season jacoby jones with seven and the list of the top ten six five of album our visitors that have the most home runs comerica park. What is that why it's a positive the lineup <hes> they're really they went into this season without will show a lot of power surrounding cabrera in casinos. We got into reasons why cabrera science hitting power and ed and there was a combination of not having a whole lot support around in the lineup and to be honest. I think the contract you're got to my daily a huge effect on him. He basically went into the season as a lame duck knowing that this team was gonna resign them and knowing that he was playing for a new contract on his team that he had no chance to come back to but also a team that can have a whole lot around him to further. There is no news and i think it would create an awkward situation. I think both sides now just much and i think you're seen and <hes> you know the impact by looking at how free and easy to be playing how much you can join the game ever since history. Do the cubs a couple of weeks ago. Hey jason we got a minute to go. Tell me about edwin jackson tigers picked him up of course he's been on like a million teams. What what's the plan land there just to fill a spot wanted to tigers picked up edwin jackson loving beginnings. You know with all the injuries especially. She wants to became clear that ross was if you become back at all you know they signed a minor league deal hoping you could provide. They got to a point last last week where they need another starter and the result was a really good start. <hes> six third innings one brunch together have the same ovation on his way off the field and i think a lot of people know even those who don't remember him appreciate the effort you put in for this team and talking what's the before and after that outing he feels a kinship here you know this is a place that special term given what he saw here in a playoff race no nine how receive these funded and you've got some family here. He's got some cousins. I think a good marriage. I don't know if it's going to be long term. I i kinda be surprised. Given the pitching prospects they have coming up but <hes> right now they really like them and then he likes being steve. He wants to help some young guys out all right. His name is jason beck one of the best baseball writers out there from m._l._b. Dot com. Thanks jason appreciate you absolutely rob. Thanks for gone out. Bring in the closer. Here's why m._l._b. is better than the n._f._l. Or n._b._a. and it isn't even close on sunday. We saw why major league baseball is better than the n._b._a. Or the n._f._l. It was a a classic match up toronto blue jays store basement vladimir guerrero junior against yankees closer all chapman and and boy did they go toe to toe in a showdown sunday in the ninth inning would basically game on the line a runner on one out slugger against against flame thrower veteran against twenty year old rookie was a third team pitcher bad for glad junior and and he battled he fell behind the whole oa-to against one of the best closers in baseball and chapman and my goodness vlad junior junior fouled off seven pitches in thirteen pitch battle at one point he hit a foul ball for a home run that would've won the game for toronto but indeed it was foul and in the very end experience over talent and and you and it was a roldos chapman getting a game ending double play on vlad junior to secure the win and the yankees won the ball game very wanting to game one to nothing very rarely. Do you see mono camano in most sports where it comes down to one against one. We saw that on sunday and it was spectacular thing to to watch. That's why major league baseball is the best sport going in the words of new york tv legend the lay bill jorgensen thanking you for your time this time until next time rob parker out he can't take this could be parker i hey it's claire host of the outkick the coverage podcast join me every day as i give you the nation strong opinions on the biggest stories in sports if you're looking for a sports podcasts at smart original funny and authentic outkick the coverage clay travis the perfect podcast for you i even recently launched a brand new podcast called wins and losses with clay travis which features long form conversations with the biggest names in sports business and entertainment listen apple podcasts or the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Hour 2 - Gary Woodland (06-18-19)

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Hour 2 - Gary Woodland (06-18-19)

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So he fills his prostate with wild cherry cherry cola and tops, it off the cherry lime eight it's the cherry on Charlie's day mixed the polar pop or fraudster that works for you just seventy nine cents each at circle k limited time only at participating locations. Broadcasting from the Mercedes men K. This is Dan Patrick our ju- on this Tuesday. Dan in the ditch. Dan Patrick shell. The dent been spending a lot of time on the basketball court this morning, working out stretching fine tuning their shots because the three on three tournament continues right after the show, twelve thirty eastern on the DP show app, and then at one o'clock. So back to back games here with the American unathletic association of America league and getting ready for the postseason here coming up. So that'll be twelve thirty eastern with the first game for the danettes. Yes polling load management. Some of my players may not play today, getting ready for the postseason because everyone makes the postseason, Dan. I have nothing to gain by winning today's game I team well, keep in mind point differential. Right. But we really big. We know where the four seat on a four for the playoffs. Why even burn out Marvin today, Marvin, the camera guy is going to be resting to that? So load management. So it's going to be three onto since it's a three on three league and you guys have no roster. No bench. Can't score less. Okay. Paulie and fritzy of yet to score there. Oh for June or were unselfish, extremely selfish fritzy's not I'm selfish. I have no excuse. I'm proud of a couple of my sister, but I am over seventeen not sit well. Fritzy was out on the basketball court about five minutes ago and he's shooting by himself. And I said, fritzy, you can't score when you're the only guy on the floor, just. I'm sitting around on your friend. Yeah. No one was guarding me has no in very short, range hooks. And they were rolling out when Ofer eight and game one. And then I went over nine in game two Ablett. So you and paulie who plays I today polling I have the cat we have the. No. No. It's a mini against mclovin at one o'clock. All paulie Seton twelve cash, so paulie got a chance to score before you do. Yes. Okay. Technically come. And then we'd take on the undefeated against the grain is now with an Aref. We'll see has goon. Yes. Because there was some controversy last week. There was some back room chatter that maybe some people were being a little ticky tack with fouls in calling them. It's call your own foul. And I said, all right. I'll get an official. I'm going to get a referee. So I can actually teach. Some people don't even know how to play basketball and the referee will perhaps help you understand the game basketball. Yes. See, I'm so curious what game changing addition, we're gonna make for the play offs here because so far after week one we had a shot clock then after week to we've added a ref the playoffs are going to be completely different game. I'm sure cheerleaders. Or live line on the court and the light lion. Male cheerleaders and a live lion. Those garage doors open up and wild animals in someone's going to do it. Vice Bobi I all you gotta do is be faster than fritzy. That's it. Accurate. Oh. You don't want the big German kid, those, the lions and Tigers going to look at the big German kid and go. Are you kidding me? Thanksgiving here we go dining on him for a month. Now, any halftime shows plan trampolines people flipping around that kind of frisbee catching dogs jaylo. I was going to try to book, Jalen. Fantastic Jennifer Lopez. No, no, no nickname. Somebody is Jalen Judith Lawrence from way. A way. Yes. She's gonna stop by very nice woman there. All right, Dan Patrick show brought to you by Bleacher report. You can watch on live dot com. The be our live the Bleacher report app. Connects you to all the moments that matter. You can follow your friends. Give your take on highlight scores and more. Download the be our app today. Poll question is sponsored by man versus food on cooking channel, mclovin. I put up my question should the major league baseball ban. The shift Eighty-three percent say no. I mean it but it slows down the game. And you're always wondering saying there's no motion. Well, no, you know what slows down the game is it's either strikeout a Walker a home run. Nobody puts the ball in play anymore. Well with the shift, there's no reason to try and put her ball on plays money will swing for the fence. And no even more reason to put the ball in play because you have the entire left side, or right side of the infield depending on the shift. Yes. Yes, paulie. What if you make a little bit of a divider with the shift and straight from the pitcher to the catcher to second base? You draw a line, all the way to centerfield and the shortstop can't go to the right side of it. The second baseman can't go to the left side of it. It's your preventing an extreme shift. You know, just basically just cut in the field and half the short steps on the left third baseman on the left. I based on the right second based on the right. And that's it. So it's just not overwhelming shift had some tweets here. This is from a Yankee two four seven nine what Matt carpenter did was Brit, Matt carpenter laid down a bunt last night that went into the outfield. He got a stand up double because there was a shift on him, the more guys who do this, the better. I don't believe in banning the shift, I believe teams should figure out how to beat the shift perfect way to do it. What's wrong with nickel, and diming a team to death? From Jay Tim six eight four considering, there's not a single rule defining fielding positions other than where the pitcher and catcher have to be it would be a huge change in currently the infield area isn't even defined. So they have to address that to another tweet anytime a game is more strategy at makes more. It makes it more interesting allowing defenses to play where they want gives strategic options to both the feeling team in the batting team. It's fun to watch cat-and-mouse much like the pre snap defense in football already. So we got a poll question, here, by the way. Mike trout hit his twentieth home run of the season last night. This is the eighth season where he's had at least twenty homers, and at least sixty walks and we're not even halfway through the season that ties in with Mickey Mantle and Mel OTT for the most such seasons before turning twenty eight. The day that passed out of the day stat of the day, here comes that, what stat of the day. Are you more interested in threes? Or home runs or less interested in home runs, or three pointers because it feels like there's a proliferation of both in their respective sports and we're kind of numb now to home runs. It's really hard to get recognized because of the home runs that you've hit because there's going to be close to a thousand more home runs this year. Compared to last year. Efforts, but hasn't curry in a hardened made us so known to threes, even especially with what curry does he takes shots at looks sometimes almost like right in front of a half court and makes it look like it's nothing. So it's become really not that big a deal seeing some of the theatrics of what Steph can put up some faraway. I'm I'm more intrigued entertained by the three, then I am a home run. There's there is movement to basketball. Golden State still plays a beautiful style of basketball. You know they moved the ball. That's wonderful to watch. Baseball has become very rudimentary. It's like I throw it you hit it. If you don't hit it you strike out. And if you hit it you're gonna hit it really far. Okay. But it's too much of a good thing. And that's what I think. Hey, we love the home runs home runs. Brought baseball back. You know you had Sosa and McGwire brought baseball back. And then you got to the point where everybody sitting home runs and these ballparks are built for everybody to hit home runs in and these pitcher's throwing so hard just put a bat on it and you can hit a home run. You get a home run, and you get a home run. So I'm bored by it. Yes. That's also say are either bad for the game. Because watching NBA feels like a three point shooting contest with little bit of defense. It's become that where the center is almost de-emphasis complete deemphasize. You don't even want a tall player on your team who doesn't shoot threes. It's becoming a three point shooting contest, and then and it just it's under the guise of basketball because if you shoot the three really. Well, you're, you're all set. Yeah, but it feels like Toronto won an NBA title, and they weren't known as three point shooting team. Jacked him up in the finals. Oh. Against the warriors. They shot they might even shop more than Golden State. Yeah. I'm still entertained by it and the strategies behind it but. Home runs, like I'm past it. Yeah. It's I, I am Nick because it feels like you can't have an increase of one thousand more home runs from the pre. I mean that's impossible. You would think and that's the pace that we're on one thousand more home runs Yampa the Trotta raptors during the regular season where the eleventh ranked team in three point attempts. So they're in the top third. And most of the good teams are Houston, Milwaukee. But then you mix in Dallas shoots a lot of threes. Yeah. For two, and then what does that say about the state of baseball? If one of the only things they can hang their hat on is about the excitement of the home run. If we're getting tired of that, then you tuning in to see other than a few star players. What's going to get you worked up about a baseball game? Well, I would like to see some guy, still seventy five basis, I would tune in to see a some guys hitting three twenty who steal seventy five or eighty basis where he keeps a pitcher all aflutter during a game. There's nobody like that. I remember Vince Coleman that brief time. That he was great, Moyo, and Ricky. Yeah, those guys were Tim Raynor's, you get them on first base, and all of a sudden the game just locks up. But at least you had movement and it goes back to when I asked Alex Rodriguez about stealing basis, and he said, if you know soon as soon as they start paying me to steal basis, then I'd still basis. But you know, in the meantime, you're just going up there to hit and you're not getting these guys, you know. Mike trout ran the everybody runs early in their careers. I don't know if Mike is running anywhere near what he wants did Christian yelich I think is tied for the National League in stolen bases. Yup. I know this probably flies in the face of analytics, but why doesn't a team go the opposite? And my guess is that catchers, don't even really practice throwing guys out anymore because they don't have to you know how many guys are stealing basis during a game. What if you stole a ton of basis in baseball, does that fly in the face of analytics because you get caught? Well, you go back to the Saint Louis cardinals the cardinals build a team around speed back in the eighties. 's and they ended up winning because of that speed and I would think that that could come in handy. If you have a pitcher's ballpark, if I had a pitcher's, ballpark, let's say San Diego and I had a pitcher's ballpark. I'd build it with speed, defense and great pitching because I'm playing half of my games there. And I take my chances on the road. But I have a true home field advantage that I have speed defense, and I have good pitching. That's how I would build my team in, in some of these ballparks there. Yes, mclovin. But then those ballparks are getting the numbers, and they moved if I'm I think San Diego moved their fences. I sell my I sell my fan base on this is who we are. You know the cardinals didn't hit home runs. They hit timely home runs combined your Willie McGee and Tommy hurt or two thousand nineteen crowd. I feel like it'd be a hard style. If you win if you go to the World Series, that's not a hard sell, but with all the homers going out against you kind of heart against a lot of good pitching. Jeff I have speed in defense. It's not exciting but it is different. And as he was saying have a counterattack here. But now every pitcher gets Tommy, John every other year. That is a true. There's no way you could build that team. I think I don't Seth in Indianapolis joins us. Hi Seth what do you have for me today? Hey, Dan Le show. Thanks for having me on your clocking in area six too. Soft one eighty. So wanted to get your thoughts on this calling in on the comments about the home runs and strike out. Some baseball field parallels between baseball and basketball but football as well. So I wanted to get your thoughts on, if you're seeing that. So baseball's become kind of a three outcomes, sport homerun walk strikeout basketball as you said, threes fours, and football. It's become a lot of the short passes in deep balls. Do you think it's good for the sports? Do you see parallels between the three not with football? Because as you said, there's throw they're throwing short passes and the deep ball. And if you're throwing at least the deep ball, you're mixing, it up if everybody was throwing these little two and three yards then. Yeah, I can understand that. You know, we've devalued the running back. Everybody wants these little slot. Guys defenses can't do anything. No rules have been in their favor there. Everybody wants more offense, everybody every league. How do we get more offense in here? And I and I have a problem with that because I, I would still like it to be a sport with a field the playing field is level and it's not. In the NFL, when's the last time they said to defensive defensive player heck put in a rule to help you guys out a little bit here. Yes. He yeah. The only thing about more offense, is that it sort of works for everybody except baseball. Because baseball is the only sport that we have right now that more offense means the game is going to be even longer in our and right. The game is slower you like dang man that, that one half of an inning just took forty five minutes because, you know they've put up ten runs and the game is already so slow and early takes so long that in a weird way. More offense hurts. It did every team in the NBA average one hundred points this year. I think that might be close to it. And you had teams you know, they were averaging one fifteen whatever. Never times. When you I mean look at baseball you had that series with the Rockies in the what was that Rockies in the Padres where they had like ninety one runs in a four game series over the weekend? Yes, every team in the NBA averaged one hundred and three points or more. This in. Yeah. But that's a lot of that is just with, you know, the analytics, where shooting the three and you're going to have that phone calls are welcome. We're going to talk to the US open champ. Gary woodland. He'll join us coming up. We'll talk a little golf I'd rather talk to him about is college basketball career. Yes, paulie ten years ago. Ten years ago. Seven teams average over one hundred and three points for game this year. Every one of them did in the NBA. In twenty nineteen guests, the percentage of plate appearance that if ended in a true outcome a true outcome is a homerun a strikeout or walk so so far this season. Thirty five percent of every plate appearance has ended in either a home run strikeout or a walk. Two of the three are really boring. And then you have the home run. That's become a little bit more boring than it used to. This is the this, this pace right now is the highest percentage in a season all time. But, you know this continues a recent trend here as I look at the numbers here, it's gone up from a twenty fourteen to twenty twelve. Yeah. All of them have been like thirty thirty one thirty two thirty three thirty three. Now, thirty five percent of every plate appearance results in a home run a walkout a walk or strikeout, mclovin. I what about that? Tom Verduci set to that. They're more foul balls than live laws. So you got all the foul balls on top of that slowing down more. But I understand the foul balls because of the velocity. And these guys are, you know, they're swinging they're getting their battle in the ball, at least and you're going to if you don't put it in plain hit a home run. Then you're. Going to foul, it off at least understand a little bit of that. But you know there's just no movement in baseball. And that's a problem. Yes. Mclovin, we were talking about the other day, how the ninety six to two thousand Yankee started taking pitches on everybody up. So that's also like good teams take a lot of pitches and try to wear these guys down. That's slow to down is that bad baseball, even though it's not aesthetically pleasing. Well, this is money ball where you're going to work the count to your advantage, and I get it. I mean, I know you wanna win, but that doesn't mean I have to watch and major league baseball. Still has a problem nationally with their game. Because locally you're going to watch your team nationally. If there's a game on and your team is not playing. You're probably not watching you're not entertained by it unless you're saying, oh I gotta see this player and who is that player that you're going got to watch him. Used to be Aaron judge. The not so much because he's been injured right, hopper. Yeah, but you might tune in to watch Bryce Harper either succeed or fail. Yeah. Mitra. I don't know if anybody goes out of their way is wonderful as he is. I just like he's economically brilliant. He's boringly brilliant. Thank you just kind of going in a different era you'd go. Oh my gosh. That's, that's how you want your kid to grow up and be in. That's the way baseball is played. I don't know if people look at it that way, unfortunately, you're saying Clayton Kershaw, he used to be must see TV. I don't know if you have anybody out, you know, I love max Scherzer. But I couldn't tell you the last time he pitched now if I stumbled through, and I see that he's pitching, a watch it, but I am not very often where you go. Wait who's plan? I go out of my way to watch Mookie Betts. Burland or when he's pitching. But it's rare. Yeah, paulie, here's a homerun staff where you remember back in the day. Let's say the eighties twenty five home runs meant you were in the power hitter care category. In one thousand nine hundred nine there eighteen players in the league that hit twenty five home runs or more. Those are the power guys in ninety nine there are sixty three players who hit twenty five home runs or more this season. We're on pace for seventy eight a major league players to hit twenty five home runs or more. That's more than the peak of the steroid air ninety nine be. It used to be you became a power hitter. If you hit twenty five or more home runs that was back in the seventies where and he's a power hitter. He's got twenty seven home runs. Now twenty seven at the all star break. Got a tweet from damn Dylan. The closest thing to that baseball team recently was the royals in two thousand fourteen made it two consecutive World Series without a guy hitting more than twenty two home runs. Lots of speed, great defense. One of the best bullpens ever. Yeah. It's true. And you know, you gotta make a concerted effort to have that kind of roster. And I don't think t- I think teams managers management owners still look at the home run as as the way to get you to the ballpark. And maybe that's the case. Maybe I'm just old school. Get off my lawn. I Gary Woodland's going to join us. We'll talk to the US open champ, your phone calls are welcome. Eight seven seven three DP show Email address, GPS, Dan. 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He's Gary woodland and he joins us on the program. Gary, good morning congratulations. How does it feel? Good morning. That sounds pretty good. I liked that title. The freshly minted US open champ. That sounds pretty good. If I would've told you at age eighteen year either gonna play in the NBA or you're going to be a professional golfer, you're going to be on the PGA tour, which one would you thought would have been more likely? I thought the Goff would have been more likely what I wanted. When did you realize the NBA wasn't happening? My first game in college I was playing university of Washburn. We were playing at university of Kansas. I realized really quickly I was matched up against Kirk Hinrich. I found out my first college basketball game that I needed to find something else to do because this isn't going to work out. Who would you say that you your game resembled who plays in the NBA? Well, I was, I would say I mean, I wanna say Steph curry, but I that's just because I wanted to shoot it all the time I couldn't handle like him, I wasn't as quick as he was, but myself, I had the ultimate green light. Well, I'm looking at I'm looking at some of the highlights here you hit a jumper against Kansas idea. Hit one I was one for seven. I was gonna keep shooting there. And then and it looked like you took tried to take charge. I think they called a block on you horrible. You just get home or call on the call. I got home or. But how important was did you think you were gonna play at Kansas, growing up that was a dream, you know, growing up in Kansas, basketball, KU, basketball, everything? So growing up. I we had season tickets. I went to the games always drink that being there never dreamed about playing against him. But I always dreamed a plan for K U. And now I still go back I I get back as many times as I can huge fan of them as now. But it was it was an honor to play. Now buildouts. I just wish I was playing for the other team. I can't imagine how nervous you'd be your. I think he were division two basketball team. And you go into play against Kansas. And, you know, can I think ROY Williams was the coach then I mean there they were great. They were number one in the country, then that was the year that they ended up losing to Syracuse in the final, we were actually number two in division two. So we thought we were pretty hot stuff. But we, we realize quickly, we end up losing by thirty that it was it was a different level. Paulie? Did they cover the spread in that game? Completely covered by like six points. Okay. Yeah. So you cover the spread of there. Gary. When did it kind of sink in that, you know, the magnitude of win in the US open at Pebble Beach? I don't know if that truly has when I woke up the next morning, the trophy was next to the bed, I realized it was real wasn't really. It wasn't just a dream, but it, it hasn't really thinking yet, but it's, it's starting to starting to, to kind of come full circle celebration. I know your parents were there, obviously that was emotional your wife couldn't be there, but oh, how we went straight to once we got in media. We went over there to the, you know, the famous taproom there at pebble there were Jordan, speed Justice, Thomas. There was another guys there that we had some, we had some good times there kind of put a little maybe vodka in the company and enjoyed it a little bit way. Everybody did everybody get the drink out of the US open is like the Stanley Cup to drink out of it yet. I you know, there's some superstitions in their suggest you know, he hasn't won and he wouldn't touch it, but speech speeds partake he's, he's been there. He's wanted before. So he, he knew what he was doing. And I'm watching you know as as you win. Win. And they show your your parents off eighteen and, you know, mom's trying to hold it in, and so his dad, but, you know, given everything that your dad's been through healthwise. How'd you keep it or at least try to keep it together while can off that green? Yeah, it was hard. It was. It was I was looking for him. There was obviously a lot of a lot of people standing there. But, you know, my dad had a heart attack my rookie year, while was playing at Pebble Beach. So for me to come back, you know, little almost over ten years, later into win at Pebble Beach, my first major and have him there on Father's Day. I mean it's you can't make that up and then Father's Day to what a great Father's Day gift, but you could have won by more, so you don't put any more pressure on dad's heart. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. The one question that my guys wanted me to ask who benches, more you or KEPCO? Well, I would I'd say he benches more. I hit it farther and he does. So it's pins on what we're looking for. How important is that? Does anybody hit it further than you? The Cameron champ kid the young kid done on getting older. I'm up here now get up. But when I came out, nobody did. But now I've been out here almost eleven here. So, so what are you? Thirty five thirty five. Yeah, do you consider yourself old at thirty five on tour or I start hanging out with these younger guys that I'm I feel all to walk in the locker room. And, you know, I've been like I said, I've been I was my length year. There's guys that, you know, we're still in diapers when I started coming out here, so it's, it's impressive. The games in a good spot. A lot of young guys. But definitely feel like a veteran out there now is it just a is, is golf like baseball. I mean it just you just hit it as far as you can. And I mean, I know you've got to be able to be good around the greens have touch, and all those things. But is it a is it a power man's games? Now. It is because I think even if even if you, you have laying on a short off course you're still hitting shorter clubs. And if I don't have to hit driver. I'm hitting iron on sort. Of course. We're guys do have the shorter hitters have to hit drivers. So I think it's an links always going to be an advantage. No matter if the golf courses are long, or short, your favorite shot during those four rounds was what? My favorite one was the last one because it was over with. The one on seventeen with special off the green. They're tipping 'cause there's a lot that could have gone wrong with that, that one. And then the they're the ones that's the second shot on fourteen sticks out with out of bounds. Right. I know left wasn't good. Only had a one shot lead that really kind of gave me a little cushion in an separated me a little bit from Brooks. What is the, the role of your caddy? Let's say those fi the back nine on Sunday. Does it change then what is role was the other rounds? Yeah. It does. I mean he he really was he was in control. He was calling, which which helped me stay calm as well. He'd been in the situation for he was on the bag when my masters. So he'd been in a major championship, you know, Mike was one of the top players in the world there for a long time. So he's been in that situation. He gave me the confidence there on I was I was actually considering laying up there on fourteen and he's the one that talked me into the being aggressive playing to win. And that's really not only gave me confidence on that shot. But gave me confidence, Alaska. Holes to finish. And you were little demonstrative. There gave us little tiger fist pump there at, you know, when you want it is that out of character came out. That's definitely more most. Never do on a golf course it. I didn't know what to do anymore. It was no more. Southbound up more nervous doing all the media stuff afterwards than I ever was on the golf course. But it all came out there on eighteen. So what happens now this life change on you got you got babies on the way in August. Yes, Alaskan it changed from from that standpoint. I got dental twin girls come in my son turns to this week, you know, I have three kids under under the oh my God at home. So life is going to be a little different there. But from golf, I still got a long ways to go still got a lot to do a lot to prove, but it's definitely going to change it home with a lot of Rugrats. I need I need, make more birdies. Can you change diapers? I, I've have probably now I've not anywhere close to what my wife does. But I would I've changed eight diaper that counts, I think your wife needs a caddy she doesn't you can. I can't imagine all the MO emotion, you had to fill their Gary, and you're right. You let it out. But I just can't imagine. You know, as I said with your father, you lost one of your babies two years ago. And here you are on Father's Day. I mean, it's, it's commendable that you just kept it together. I, I have no idea what was going on inside of you, because, you know, the exterior, you're like oh, he seems like he's programmed to do this. I keep it bottled in pretty good. It like I said it came out a little bit there on eighteen but it puts life in perspective. Really quick everything we've dealt with all the golf course. But it all leads to the moment that we were able to stay on their on Sunday. Good stuff. Hey congrat-, Gary hope. There's many more for you in more importantly, good luck in a couple of months here. Thanks. Good talking to you. Thank you, Gary. That's Gary woodland US open champ. That's fun. See this is what I always encourage the PGA when, when I've talked to their Commissioner and say, make sure that you get your players out there after they do something. And have them make appearances do Jimmy Fallon or do the morning show. Just get out there and show, your personnel. That's why when people talk about Brooks captain said all he's boring. No, he's not. I just don't think people talk to him or wanna talk to him that we get caught up in all. That's the guy you gotta have on when kept Cas been on. He's been great and Gary woodland, I met Gary years ago at an Under Armour event. And I'm gonna guess this is probably five or six years ago and didn't really know him spend some time with him and I followed him but he didn't win and, you know, so you're watching him. And I knew that he was pretty stoic on the golf course. So him and KEPCO they don't really let you in and let you see too much. And then when it's all said and done, you know, got a great personality. And so does Kapka I really liked KEPCO? I like him a lot. I think he's I like the fact that, you know, he's just he's a badass. He's just I'm here to win. That's it. I'm here. I'm in town and everybody knows you're in town during a major and I'm here to win. That's it. Oh, yeah. He he's, you know, they're fun. They're fun. Preachy. Did you have a plug for Gary woodland? Yeah. PJ just after he hung up asked if he could just mentioned the guys returning to New York City for the FedEx Cup playoffs in August at the Northern Trust. They wanted us to work that in. Okay. That's good. So in New York City FedEx Cup playoffs. That'd be an August can come pacifism until after his wife has the baby's perfect timing. Get twin's coming up there. All right. We'll get phone calls coming up. Eight seven seven three DP show Email address, TPS, Dan, Patrick dot com, and nobody else in America is going to do this today. No other show was going to do this today. It's the Josh mccown game. Yes. Josh mccown was a backup quarterback for most of his career, and he just retired and he's going to work for the mothership. But paulie said we need to have Josh mccown game. I said, okay, Pauly in each of the four major sports. Can you name the athlete who played for the most amount of teams? Okay. Most amount of teams not stops teams. Okay. That's the Josh mccown game. We'll take a break. Here watch NBA TV simulates, the first round of the dra- the draft is two days away, by the way in that amazing really what's going to happen with number one pick. I've no idea. Yeah. But and then, number two, I think we know and number three, we know it's Lehrer gets interesting is number four, because with number four does New Orleans trade that pick. And I think there's some teams that would be interested in that number four pick you don't want. Here's another thing that I. I was reading about New Orleans. They may take a flyer with Bradley Beal, and see if they could bring him. Now, if you bring in Bradley Beal, with ball Ingram Zaylon I got holiday. All right. I'm interesting here. You're already interesting because you got Zion, you're on the basketball map, then all of a sudden you become competitive. But if I'm the Lakers, Bradley Beal is the player that I would want. I don't know if you can get him but Bradley Beal would be ideal and that was the player I thought last year that they should have gone after because now you have a shooter and he's one of the great shooters in the game with LeBron but New Orleans isn't done yet. Golden State is not done either. I we'll take a break your phone calls coming up in the Josh mccown game. We'll play that right after this support for the Dan Patrick show podcast comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by Quicken Loans. Home is so much more than a house. It's your own little slice of heaven. That's why when you find the perfect place for you and your family, getting a mortgage, shouldn't get into. Away. Imagine how it feels to have an award winning team by your side through every step of this process. It's awesome. Exactly what you get with rocket mortgage by Quicken Loans. 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It's all new season man versus food, on its new home cooking channel. When is Casey web gonna join us here in the man cave in the near future. Yeah. I think sometime next month actually, he's gonna come by is he gonna come in on a meet Friday? He's going to come in under me Friday. All right. All right. Let's see if he can eat six ghost pepper tacos at thirty pound bagel endless sushi, and Sacramento, and much more. It's a new season new home. Same Casey man versus food on cooking. Channel stream live catch up on past episodes on the cooking channel I- paulie ready to play the Josh mccown game. Yes. And Seton has specific music. He created just for the Josh mccown, okay? Think of her this full. No. It's at slight variation. Okay. Here we go. Dan of the four major sports. NFL NBA, NHL and major league baseball, the player now non kicker, non kicker for the NFL who played for the most number of teams not stops, but teams, would you like to go, which sport we'd like to go first? Let's go NBA. Ooh, that's an interesting one who can name the NBA player who played for the most number of teams hint. There's four of them four guys tied for twelve stops did any of those players play at Maryland or North Carolina State. Yes. At least two or three. You're halfway there. Okay, who wants to take a shot at the number of teams not the number of teams. The player names twelve teams four different players. Play for twelve teams in NBA history. Is there a Smith Joe Smith Smith? Joe Smith at a Maryland. Okay. I'm one over up. Okay. Yes. Mclovin, can I go off your hint and guests in rather one? Yeah. Chucky Brown Chaz Brown. Yeah. That's was NC state was, yeah. The other person to the other two guys won multiple time all star, the other one more of a serviceable journeyman, serviceable curent, even fan, tell us Tony Massenburg. I get the last. That's Tony Massenburg is Maryland. Probably wait. Can I guess last one is he a coach or was it coach in the nearby area? He's a current rod, caster, not Kevin Ollie now. Kevin Ollie eleven style. Jimmy Jackson, Jim Jackson about Ohio Jackson junior. The third off south sorry, NHL, nobody's going to get this twelve stops NHL not a name, you would know Ilkka Cinna sallow, I that. Not right. Mike cylinder. The big silly. Oh, yeah. Okay. Major league baseball. Most stops fourteen stops for this pitcher Gaylord Perry. No, I'm pretty sure this young man. He's not young anymore headed no hitter in his crew. Some of the runners up our Octo Octovio dough. Tell Matt stairs. Mike. Morgan Ron Vallone with twelve steps this guy fourteenth stops pitcher. Play for your reds for a little bit. Edwin Jackson he's still pitching. He may have had another stop since we started the game. I think that he hitched like last night and got roughed up. Check and see if Edwin Jackson is still pitching because I think he pitched last night for some reason to music filler. All right. Edwin jackson. Yeah. He's one in five. Twelve point four three RA come more stops lifted. Okay. Now the tough one NFL most stops for an NFL player all time or I'm gonna do position player. And it's not Josh mccown I'm gonna do position player and then quarterback specifically. Okay, this is very tough. This is not a name a big name player play defensive end. I think linebacker. He made nine stops in his NFL career. I know it even give you a hint. He's from Kalamazoo Michigan. Jason Bavin linebacker defensive end. Nice. Nightstop the quarterback with the most stops in NFL history hint, the name of the game is the Josh mccown game. I'm gonna go. Josh mccown anyone else wanna go. Oh, definitely Steve Berg died. And you wouldn't want to say no to Dan say. Not Josh mccown, I would agree with in Josh mccown eight stops eight staus reject most any quarterback in the NFL. His eighteenth. Where's Ryan Fitzpatrick or Patrick fits Ryan checking? Because he's got to be up there. I think, oh for sure. Yeah. I think so. I think case keenum is one to keep an eye on over the next five could be sneaky. Yeah. Yeah. Case case Pete in Texas, joins us hair. Hey pete. What do you have for me today? Just wanted to see what your thoughts were on the week. Three breakdown for the a with a big brand has a heavy thirteen and a half point favorite while against the grain is no big surprise eleven and a half point favorites this week. Reason, like load management baby pushing those lines, I'm not sure what the game plan is because this is the last regular season game before the playoffs. But thank you, Pete. I knew that there are some people who have some unofficial betting lines. You know, of course, entertainment purposes, only yes, he. Yeah. I'm a little concerned about that being that heavy little. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've got Mariotto who's on my team and Tyler the creator both coming off big games. Maybe a little overconfident. And you're going against the most overrated player in the league while rapid. He's got something to prove lugers had couple of down weeks. So they're do I'm out of this sets up for a huge failure by us. Yeah. The number two pick overall Marvin prince junior, the third the most overrated player in the league right now. His team teammates are calling Darko for some reason. I don't know why. Call him number two message. Darko milicic. Yeah. Yeah. But we love that. He's marvin. Number two, Marvin Williams who just resigned. I think Marvin Bagley both number two. And Williams is good Bagley. TVD. Good. How was he last year? He's okay mic. My Sacramento Kings are gonna make the playoffs this next year. Like they don't they the west is loaded really know. But, like I keep waiting I spent all this time, watching the Sacramento Kings, they have to reward may. At some point I spent all that time, watching the clippers and the nets this past season. They rewarded me by making it into the playoffs. The least Sacramento could do is just make the playoffs. Yup. I think Marvin Bagley is going to go double double this year. Twenty ten guy. He was heritage fifteen points and eight rebounds in twenty five minutes per game. He only started four games last year. Those are nice numbers. He's nineteen just turned twenty about an hour. How many how many players from Kentucky? Do they have do? They have they have at least three on the roster. Three or four more peace. Yeah. Bagley is Duke, though, but I'm just saying, we'll equally Stein deer and FOX. Had scowl scowl. I don't know. Okay. I thought they had three players from Kentucky. Yeah, I got to, they do have a any when Gabriel from university of Kentucky. I don't even know that is he's a rookie. I guess. All right. Final hour coming up. More of your phone calls as well. Did you update the poll results, mclovin? 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Mason & Ireland (HR 3)

Mason & Ireland

44:08 min | 1 year ago

Mason & Ireland (HR 3)

"I'd go and it's time for fasttrack. It is brought to you by Dr Grant Stevenson Marina Plastic Surgery get your body back on track fast. Get rid of those unwanted inches visit freeze the fat dot COM I. Let's see one side of the coin. The dodgers still win. The World Series despite Houston's acquisition of Zach Cranky other side of the coin. The Astros have have become the favorites and we'll win well. They've become the favorites favorites but just because they want the dodgers finally breakthrough all say heads and it's heads heads all right Mesa at the W._n._B._A.. All Star game in Las Vegas last weekend. They experimented with something that most people think is nuts. I'm not sure it is here's what they did. You were allowed allowed to substitute on the fly like in hockey okay if you wanted to replace me in the court. Let's say we're both on the same team got it. I'm in the game name and you're on the bitch. I just run by the scores table and tag you like in wrestling. I'm out urine okay yeah. That's that's how you substitute like they do in hockey think about it really the only complaint you ever hear about N._B._A.. Basketball is that it moves too slow in the fourth quarter. This would help that at least they should try it in the G. League and see if it works. What do you think I look the G. League in the same way baseball uses that independently experimentally no league you should use the G. League to experiment with with new rules? I'm all in on trying it right. Why not I mean it works in hockey perfectly? Let's see if it works in basketball. Yeah you know what's the worst thing that can happen. Yes especially in the G. League. It should be for experimentation yeah. I think Michael wants a four point. That's where you try the point absolutely absolutely what the heck yeah that should be talked to the coast to South Bay Laker Games. You have loves those games. I sang the anthem day South Bay so I I think the more stuff you put in those games the more experimental stuff you try. I think it just raises interest try. This substituting on the fly tried to four point line. Do it all do it all G.. League go for it. Yep Fouls Chat. I had a survey conducted by U._S.. Foods a leading food service distributor found that nearly a third of delivery drivers. We're taking customers foods of the delivery Third Yup. I'll get food delivered all the time. This is kind of right where I live. The delivery drivers questioned twenty percent admitted that they had eaten the customers food at least once and fifty four percent said they were tempted tempted to snack on the food. They're supposed to deliver. This is going to change my life this quest U._S.. Foods ask consumers quote if you ordered a Burger and fries and the deliverer grabbed grabbed a few fries along the way. How upset would you be John? How much would it bother you? If somebody tried your fries and given this information. Will you continue new to us food delivery services well. I have to continue to use food delivery services because it literally is half of my is half my life yeah <hes> but yeah it would bug me if he was grabbing when my friends in the weird thing is if I if I had the fries so I'm not sure this is a into my psychosis you go to therapy. Maybe you can explain it. Yes if you and I were sitting here and I had fries yet I bought at like Smash Burger. Yes and a delivery guy walked in Yup and he goes. Hey man listen to the show all the time. I`Ma go. Hey Chris. Hey Chris WanNa fry yeah. I'd be happy to give him one but if I found that he was taking my taking him on the side with on the side without me asking Yup it would bother bothering me now. It says you're absolutely right. I mean you can expect that your food should be untouched when it shows up at your house but I don't really care if I I would share my fries with him if he was here you know when I order donuts which is fairly regularly which is regularly in fact. It's so bad that when decays donuts delivers <hes> they donate guy says hey Siri donuts so he's ever taken donate if you've ever had less donuts than you never have but I would happily early tip one donut every decays delivering yeah yes but it is creepy the idea that they would just take food yeah. I think that if I found out I would stop using that service it'd be like which one do you use adore dash yeah now us Grub so he told me tell me if this is also weird and my first job was as a dishwasher at a restaurant when I was like sixteen yup and my friend mark who is on the basketball team with me accredited Omar <hes> was also a dishwasher and he would so the busboys would clear the plate right and bring the plates back and he would like. Let's say there was a big T. bone steak he would cut the edge off where the stake had been no and eat the rest of the steak and I I would say to him. I go that number waiting off. Somebody else's play go. That's unsanitary he goes. It's not incident carry. I'm cutting the edge off off which they which they used so in other words he would cut the unused part of the stake often eat it yeah. I used to tell them that. That is the gusting I go. I couldn't Tori was greg would you would you do that. That's so gross you don't know when he was spitting coming out of their mouths all over it up the side. Take the whole thing and bring it home to my dogs. Has he did that to that. Would that would be okay. No that's totally fine brings steak off somebody's plate to my dog's totally fine there there my dogs right. They love stir your dog yeah there. They love steak. They'll be wasn't his steak is what he's saying right now. That's that's that's over the line. We're glad I wasn't yeah. You're listening to Caspian. Los Angeles check. All right makes a couple of years ago. We said on the show Oh that if anybody Ted to the Mason Ireland logo on their body we would turn over fast track to that person for an entire day. Yes Christian Florez and aspiring sportscaster called our bluff off. He got the Tattoo Christian has since come on twice has nailed fast-track both times. We both think he could do this for job. As a matter of fact Greg is Christian coming in Friday Friday for fasttrack Friday. This year is okay so you guys who have never heard Christian do it. You'll you'll see him on Friday and really sharp and he still has a mason and Ireland Tattoo so fast forward to steelers practice this week Juju Smith Schuster told reporters that if any steeler fan tattooed his signature on undo their head under their head their head he would give that fan season tickets so a fan did any kind of his hair like like Jesse's he he's got like a full head of hair and got a Mohawk got to fade like that they just got a Mohawk so picture you just have a stripe of hair down the center. I've had that once okay so mace on the side of his head he had the steelers logo you know like the three colors yes logo with Smith Schuster signature tattooed into the side of his his head so it was pretty ingenious. If he grows his hair back no one will be able to see it interested Smith Schuster side and gave him season season tickets so here's my question Yep. You have a full head of hair yes I do. How much money would someone have to pay you to get a tattoo of their signature to put into your head? What would it be worth to you? Interesting like a Rams Girlie girlie you know Jared Goff <hes> signature advantage of being able to grow hair over it shave might I don't know how much come back so fifty grant. I'm cheap fifty fifty grand expensive you really yes season. Tickets aren't worth fifty grand. This guy did it for a lot less than that. Fifty grants a lot fifty greg. Would you do it the price I mean I would need season tickets like a floor seats at a Laker Games on like that if you WanNa make the year yeah for the whole year knows it. You know floor seats are you a Laker game are like I. I didn't even know what they are for one game. I think it's three or four grand per game. I mean my hair grows back really fast so go to your head yeah and by the way this fan you guys should google and look at it. It looks pretty good doesn't protect to our stood a really good good job. His hair looks good looks just like kind of a rabid steelers fan. He says he's GonNa keep his haircut short all year during football season and then when football season's over he's going to grow back that's just weird and he gets free season tickets. Well for free season tickets from Juju Smith Schuster big steelers Fan Pampers is the latest company to jump into you trendy wearable devices with a new connected care system called Leumi that tracks babies activity through a sensor that attaches to diapers the Santo and so when you say tracks babies activity how many times the baby poops is all your sensor alerts parents via an APP notification when a diaper is wet it also sends information on Baby A. B. Sleep and wake times allows parents to manually track additional information such as dirty diapers and feeding times they're even apps to replicate the sound of Apparent Sang Shush Okay but with the increase in smart options for babies and younger children to parents must make decisions about how much tech to US News as they seek to raise them in an increasingly connected world with so many ordinary objects becoming smart. Are we becoming too dependent on technology and what do you think of Pampers Smart Technology. I don't hate it. I remember when my son was little <hes>. I'd always feel bad if you don't because let's face it back Greg. You may have been doing this too when you were parenting because Riley what got outta diapers five six years ago yeah yeah. It's been a while the only way we know if they don't cry Smell Test Yup. That's the only way you know so. You'd be okay if I always felt bad if like Jack had a wet I for a minute I to win i. I probably should have caught that early so you have an APP that says yeah diaper. If I had an APP that said the diapers wet I would actually feel better about myself. What about what what about the one that says Shush so I don't have to get up and go in there yeah the like the phone will tell them to show well okay? The APP will say Shush. I don't know if I should admit this this but Lisa at our house the master bedroom is downstairs and Jackson is upstairs and if we don't WanNa yell upstairs Yup up. We'll just text him no baby though baby. You can't do that when you're a baby. I'm not sure I have a problem with the shish thing Greg we would make. I don't like that one. I don't It's a little weird and aren't we finding ways. I mean I'm not wearing. Aren't we finding ways to not parent wait a minute greg. What's the difference between that and any standard old-fashioned baby monitor where you monitor? It doesn't tell them to shush no but the baby monitor tells you when to go up there that's technology. We aren't parents st now all that stuff is fine stayed in the Caribbean but by the way the the other tricky when kids are little is if stay won't go to sleep yet. Here's the trick I used to live in the Hollywood hills Yup and fancy. If you put Jack in my wife's car and put on David Gray young musician he would fall asleep really David Gray Babylon alive here that's Avalon that aw Babylon by David Gray the so it would be the combination of that and putting them in the car in in his car seat and dragging them down the sunset strip so I always thought this would this will show a Sitcom one day I would like on a Friday or Saturday night when all the girls for doing the walk of Shame Q. Three four in the morning walk of fame I would yeah I would be put this song on this is kind of an extended version of and drive him up and down past the yeah this song and Knox anybody out yeah and I thought I hope I don't fall asleep driving. This is a great sign. Though Dr Beverly Hills Hotel come passed by the Pipe Yup by the Hustler store by the comedy store by the Mondrian House of Blues Turnaround. He'd be asleep while that was it just a little day yeah this technology shortness and using that yeah I I am not afraid of any of this technology. Do you want to drive his car. Already said that sure I'm telling you you have no fear of technology. It's the General Motors is working. They've done five hundred million dollars. Oh Yeah we are within three years news of a car pulling up to your house that has no driver not only no driver no steering wheel or instruments. It's just GONNA pull up. I'm in favor of that. It's a computer car. I'm in. I'm GonNa let you do that for at least a year before I get it I will. We're all GONNA die. I remember a time when you just scoffed and said that's never happening. No it's happening. It's happening by twenty twenty two yeah yeah. I'm all in yet. That's nuts I wanna I wanNA wheeler a break in case we taken by the machine I trust see terminator. I trust my commitment. You could take us over. I trust a computer driving over me driving and by the way social you I I would say anything over you driving I would I would trust Greg's daughter over you driving and she seven to war fasttrack in two minutes. It's E._S._P._N.. Alive I roll with fasttrack Ireland it's to you I'll chat. Hey two-time n._F._l.. Head coach of the year Bruce Arians is back on the sidelines lines. This season yeah in his first year head coach Tampa Bay Arians is the subject of the feature that aired last night on Bryant Gumbel -t's real sports on H._B._O.. Jio and he told Andrea Kremer he's not worried at all about death areas has had two bouts with Cancer Sir and is still coaching at age sixty six Kramer asked him quote. Why do you seem to take such a cavalier attitude about your your health? Arians answered quote you could die at any moment doing anything I mean so why not do what you love to do. If I die at a game day have a drink yeah. Celebrate Aryans who turn sixty seven in October continues to celebrate the bill a healthy receive when he got the job in January Harry. He says I had to take a complete physical and I got to see I was happy as hell. I've been in F- for ten years yeah. How concerned are you about your health and if you took a physical what letter grade do you think you would get you know my I'd probably get a B.? I'm carrying about ten pounds too much right now. I have a similar attitude about death and I don't know why I have absolutely no fear of death either like when it's over it's over. I could get hit by hi bus today. I have complete and total faith in an afterlife. It's never scared me. I fully believe in it may not be exactly heaven but I believe in an afterlife and and <hes> I'll be back around doing radio. After I took a physical this summer yeah full physical top to bottom with the it included. Everything and I got an egg. Did you get an Iraq yeah. Brazilians is happy with the sea so I got a lot of room to dry. I gotta I gotta be. I'm trying to sing about when I was in high school. My G._P._A.. was three point eight Yup and I took it really seriously in college. It was a two point eight. That's how I kind of look at physicals if I may now from A. B. in five years and then a see in ten years good for me. When do you WanNa time it out so you're having fun at the end of your life? Absolutely you know that's that's. How concerned are you about? Death not really concerned about death. I'm more concerned. What about my body weight though are you? I am very much overweight. Yes I'm right where I need to be. I was going to say something by the way I know I know you have you actually have in the past. Thank each one of the two of you is more overweight. I'm ten pounds overweight well. I'm like one ninety six. What's what's supposed to be one seventy five so you're twenty one day? I know what you need <music>. I'm two oh three. I'm supposed to be a nice one ninety three. No you okay Greg. You need to go on medifast. That's the Diet that I lost seventeen pounds in eighteen days on that's a rough and you need to stop ordering online lay off the donuts cookies. That's all I need. My ideal weight. Wait is one eighty five. That's not too heavy not too light up and right now one eighty one so I'm outta here. Yeah really weighed myself today. So I have room for go. Take those donuts. You're eating and send him over to my house donuts or great man. They're so underrated. Check I Portland Trailblazers Guard. Damian Lillard alert wants Carmelo Anthony to get the N._B._A.. sendoff he deserves Lillard tried to start a movement on twitter on Monday suggesting anthony should be signed and given a farewell farewell tour as for Anthony. He's hoping he will get another shot at the N._B._A.. According to his trainer Chris Brickley who says Melo as easily better than seventy percent of the N._B._A.. Players Mellow hello just wants to have a farewell tour like de Wade's the blazers may not have the money to make the move but it shouldn't take a lot to bring anthony and he signed with the rockets for the veteran's minimum last season season does mellow deserve last Hurrah and do you think he will get one. I reigning to Ben Lyons in the parking lot yesterday yup and I had this exact. I didn't you know you were GONNA ask us. I had this exact conversation with him. There's a team that should give mellow this deal. You're talking about right now yeah no you. The team is who it's the Knicks yeah you know. His problems were with Phil Jackson. Yeah fills no longer run in that thing. The Knicks Knicks are not competing for a playoff spot this year they did terrible and free agency play mellow ten minutes a night. He grew up you know he he remember he wanted. He forced to trade. Surely the Knicks he grew up in West Baltimore so it's either the Knicks or the bullets but he's he's. I think most people tie. There's two things that Mellow L.. O. Got a raw deal on number. One the Knicks should sign him to a vet minimum and let him get the farewell tour he deserves and I thought it was. It was lousy that U._S._A.. Basketball didn't just put him on the team. You know he's been on the team U._S._A.. Four Times he's the all time leading score. He always answered the Bell for Team U._S._A.. Whenever they asked and and he's the best player he holds almost every Olympic record? We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA win. Big at the Olympic absolutely new every year put Christian Leitner was on the Dream Team put mellow on the end of the bench give him five minutes a game put him into those games against Angola. When we're down by thirty five Lebron beyond that team anyway Steph Hunter Gold Medals would that be seventy four no he lost the first year and then he went anymore yeah so it'd be so it'd be as fourth? He went an eight twelve and sixteen ceremonial now. They've already come to know inviting and if I'm a terrible team like the Knicks or if I'm a terrible terrible team like let's say the Atlanta Hawks. Why would I want to have him on the roster just to give people a reason to come see their game? Okay okay believe it or not even though I think most people associate the Atlanta Hawks and terrible team Atlanta's going to be good this year. They're going to be a playoff team this year. Look at the the roster pickups adding trae young second year is ready to go off. They're going to be good but there are plenty of teams that aren't that Hannah no sign that you could put mellow on or young teams that are Kinda like wanting. Put them on Oklahoma City with his Buddy Chris Paul Yeah Oklahoma City is taking a step back this year. They're not a playoff and it might make make <hes> Chris Paul a little happier but the problem is didn't they already try that wasn't he did try that and they try to last year signed a veteran's minimum Huston. Yes got Ya may burn the genie one year and okay see to thought he did a dental one year in okay see but I I could be wrong about that. <hes> Yeah I. I think he's getting a bum rush here. I think he's you know what do you think he ranks all time in scoring in the N._B._A.. A one to one hundred say fifteen nineteen nineteen yeah so one of the great players of all time yeah given deal yes track all right last one for me and I got a game played this in a while. It's it's time for the alumni the alumni you've been very good at delighting that works I <hes> greg can play Jesse is in for Jay today. Jesse Jesse by the way is the engineer for all Laker Games on the LAKER radio network and Mason does very well in this game but you each get your own name and all you have to tell In Moon N._F._l.. Hall of Famer Warren Moon University of Washington Iraq very good and as usual mason gets out to the jump he went to <hes> Washington SORTA demarco no yeah but but now we're going to rotate just he'll go first this time Jesse New Laker Jared Dudley. I must say something's telling me Yukon you know Mace Matt and Tim mm Hasselbeck each played quarterback at this school Illinois. No Greg Doug Flutie. Oh Boston College Boston College is correct. Yeah yeah remember. Elizabeth Hasselbeck was on the baseball softball. Okay Mace Jesse Owens the maybe maybe the greatest Olympic track say U._S._c. no good guests though <hes> Greg Bobby Knight in the order where you tend to school no Hannah ended school year Jesse the last one jurors Ezekiel Elliot Ohio state so there you go. Everybody's got one the Ohio State Jessie Joe. I never never play along with that all right greg we had him on the show last week ranting and raving about the Lakers and Clippers Jack Black Jack Black lack went to U._C.. No Jesse Trevor Bauer Trevor Ball. I traded last night Indians to the Ray. Yes Oh yes that was a guest in Macias was going to be ready. Okay so Jesse takes the early lead Greg started jumping around wearing a nice sign for me. Jesse see you have to go first this time Faira Faucet Oh man in religion beauty from the seventies Farah Fawcett U._S._C. No Mace Walter cronkite the most trusted man in America fear Faucet and Walter Cronkite went to the same college it has to be in the Mid West. I will say North Dakota not a bad guest Gregg Egg Kevin Durant Texas University of Texas Greg to Jesse to Mason one. I got a five wins okay. Who makes you go first right? Tom Verduci baseball writer Fox Baseball Guy Tom Verduci. I'll say he went to UCONN. No Greg Keegan Michael key very funny man Keegan Michael Key tough from key and Peele. That is a tough one. I'm just going to say North Western no Jesse yes. He saquon Barkley Penn State Penn State is right through okay so it's Greg. It's back to you. First Alex Alex Bregman Third Baseman Alex Bregman Third Baseman for the Astros he went to Stanford Jesse Odell. Beckham Junior was <hes> three two I I can't I can't get him blinking Shaquille O'Neal l._S._U. L._S._U.. When Mason's underboard I Jesse Three Greg to Mason to Jesse Jessica I this time U._S._A.? Women's soccer star Alex Morgan Alex Morgan. I will say northwestern Mace a Celtics Guard Jalen Brown. I know <hes> notice Kansas now. No Greg Aaron Rodgers Rogers Cal Yeah Cow University of California at Berkley. I could've said Ramona Ramona Ramona three Jesse Three Steve Two this is close. <hes> makes you go first this time Henry Fonda Jane Fund is Dad Legendary Actor Henry Fonda. I will say he went to Illinois no Greg Bob Dylan Dylan <hes> let's go. I Know Jesse Michael Thompson Michigan Non Michigan hanging out here with Michigan that is so sad. That was Minnesota Minnesota. We're not going to be happy with you. Oh Wow all right all right so <hes> makes you when I had him so Greg you-go-first mets first baseman Pete's Alonzo Likely Rookie Year Pita Lonzo Idaho no Jesse Bradley Beal Wizards Guard Bradley beal he went to. I can't think of him as Tim Tebow. Oh I went to Florida went to flow three two three two three. No everybody knows school three three three three three three three so whoever gets two more wins it who went I I time Peter Lonzo Greg you either Idaho Jesse Gretchen Carlson the news anchor who went twenty million from Fox Hawks Miss America no a Mace John McEnroe tennis hall of Famer <hes> <hes> go now. You can't Stanford Oh cheated. No I know take it off. The boards audited Boarding Roy taken off the board can't take it off to Canada. Your Moment Ashini Mason in the list of very serious game did not even see her all right. You're jumping around and there's glass as you were saying no. No No. I can't do that okay so I yeah I Aaron Sorkin my hero. I would have gotten that Aaron Sorkin. I will say that may be N._Y._U.. No Greg Former N._B._C. and Fox News Anchor Megan Kelly. I don't Know Care Syracuse. Why goes getting Carmelo Anthony that was just is it total shot in the dark? Yeah no defense against Birmingham yeah kids I go. I <hes> yeah you can win it right here. We're all right Gregg jet up a towel. Oh he was somewhere down here. <hes> I'll say U._S._C. This home over over game. Greg Bergman wins it jet up until Jesse Yours was going to be Tom. SELLECK and Mesas was going to be Swaggie P Nicu here too for the first one yeah. That's Nice Labor job all right congratulations. Thank you thank you. That's the first win that's not mason winning. Ramona tried to throw throw it to him seriously. Get Ramon jumping around winning winning. I went to cash winnings. Actually I got a game. We'll do it next Momo. I can play good. That's coming up next they in Ireland E._s._p._N.. L._A. E._S._P._N.. L._A.. Hey look who's here. It's mall. I've seen you in forever. I don't really last week. Was it just last week. Shows feel like forever right now with you. That's right yeah. I know you through baby on instagram everybody does He. Shed just have his own instagram. He should why why he would he would have a tremendous number of follows immediately being influenced <unk> winter totally yeah I mean I'm already like they. They actually talk to me E._S._P._N.. About the social team they're like well. We're trying to get you to do more like when I do a TV appearance appearance like they'll make a video for me and I can post it on my instagram stories or whatever it was like yeah kind of like the baby feed is definitely a baby definitely a baby okay so we don't leftover game here from fasttrack Momo you can play Greg. You could play just a you can play the game is called size matters. Here is number one which athlete makes more money from endorsements as it a Lebron James B. Roger Federer see Steph Curry John we start with you federer her Federer Momo Better Federer Greg Federer Federer Jesse. I'M GONNA say Lebron James Jesse. It was right there for you. I don't know what <music> better fetters worldwide all those like rich guy things like the watching so the mall. This one starts with you. Who is the oldest of these quarterbacks? Derek Carr Be Blake bortles see Blaine Gabbert. I'm not going to Gabbert either. I've Gone Gabar Greg. You're Gabbard Jesse. Honestly Blake Bortles Okay Jesse. You are awful. Glen Gabbard Tavern was drafted before by the way Bortles is only only twenty four. That's it yeah that's the same age you're GonNa Twenty four years old wow number three which of these N._F._l.. Stadiums has the largest seating capacity is at a metlife stadium. Be Eli Lambofield or see Fedex Stadium Greg Greg. I Dunno where Fedex Stadium someone say redskins regine makes sense Fedex Fedex <hes> <hes> Jesse. I'M GONNA say Metlife metlife. John was the what was the metlife Lambofield Fedex slam but that's the oldest one slam lambeau. Oh and Ramona I will also say lambofield. No it has met Life Stadium Eighty two thousand Jesse's on the board lambofield eighty one four four thirty five number four four of these billionaires who donates the most money annually to charitable causes is it a Michael Bloomberg be Warren Buffett see see bill and Melinda Gates <hes> we start with Jesse. I'M GONNA say Warren Buffett Warren Buffett John Bill and Melinda Gates Zillah <music> Melinda Gates Mama Gates the Gates Foundation Greg Gates. You are incorrect. The correct answer is Warren Buffett. Bill Jesse's tied at yeah Warren Buffett two point eight million the gates two point five million a whole foundation. That's all they do two point five billion years. I think the one you're thinking of his. They've pledged to I think I know it too. I think I know what to its Edwin Jackson Edwin Jackson Jesse Jackson Edwin Jackson John. Let's let it's Adam and Jack in fifteen sixteen. You guys are all correct. It's fourteen but you were right there on it. All these guys knew that three three three three all right number for six which of these N._B._A. Player says more career fouls is at a Artis Gilmore be Robert Parish or see Karl Malone Momo. Oh you start Carl Malone Com law. I'M GONNA say Robert Parish Robert Perish Karl Malone Com alone Commun- Jesse Cardinal Camillo. It is Carl Malone alone that is absolutely correct until you forty pride in the last one which of these is the highest grossing fast food chain chain. Is it a subway be Burger King or see starbucks John Ugo last. Everybody else has four. We'll start with <hes> Jesse. I will say Burger King Burger King Greg. What were they again? Subway Burger King starbucks starbucks starbucks Ramona Burger King Burger King John so is anyone picked subway. No they have not that's my only chance to win them going subway John. You have got it you <music> out subway ten point six billion Burger King eight point four billion in starbucks eight billion wow member. There's a subway on every single corner everywhere true story at our hotel. When we play Seattle Supersonics I moved to Oklahoma City? We stay at the FAIRMONT Olympic Hotel downtown which is Super Nice Hotel. If you ever saw the movie disclosure that's Oh yes that's where they have the the the crazy room setup no doubt but on on one corner was the Fairmont Olympic and on the other three corners or starbucks. There are three different reference starved by altering yeah. I mean just crazy. I just don't think starbucks has worldwide probably not not the same worldwide yeah <hes> yeah. That's it's wow so mona by the way there wasn't any surprises with those Laker coaching it out so today right. Why did he take penberthy did you? I know that one yeah I heard about people's price <hes> no. I just wondered that it just seemed like that. News had all come out over the past two months. It's just hard to me the teams way to announce this stuff. I mean altogether right but Vogel's been talking about Jason Kidd being on his staff for two months yeah so I just assumed wound they'd all been announced. <hes> so what's interesting with announcements right is like nowadays we used to respect the announcements like in the media. I used to like matter when something was announced <hes> but now it's like this little game like you know. Can you report it like five minutes before the announcement comes out and they we we've gone back and forth on those policies right which is like. Do we like if we get it before the announcement comes out like used to be they would just take your credit off Susie and you'd be like you broke it for like five minutes but now in the age of social media you can break stuff immediate so it almost doesn't like I don't know what is the announcement. Even the teams get weird about that too like we want to announce our around doing fine in two thousand four right by the way Blake Bortles is twenty-seven he is twenty seven. I don't know why gathered twenty nine so your guys questions right but <hes> jerk off twenty four Blake bortles twenty seven okay these games are like hand grenades excited by the like Baseball Foale trade deadline I was trying to we'll talk about it coming up next most hanging out Mason and Ireland E._s._p._N.. L._A.. Hey Momo hey the secret stuff. Oh faster remain secret. You know what I'm talking about right sauce. I'm just watching this like Wendy's commercial right. Yeah yeah sure her secret sauce yeah all right so the money into your question. The trade deadline was horrendous disappointment. I think all these new school G._M.'s are afraid to make any deals because they don't want to get fired and so it's it's an as mark to sheriff said today the E._S._p._N.. T._V. Trade deadline show. It's analysis by paralysis. It's an to share said what this reminds me of is you're out with a bunch of your buddies in your in the desert in Vegas and the smartest one says hey let's not by water here because as we can get it much cheaper down the road right and then when you drive down the road y'all die on the way this is yeah these teams refusing to make appeals when they have a chance to win it. This year is crazy about him but here's the thing I think the teams that think they have a chance to win. It teams that are are there are five games out of the wild card. They're like well. We're not going to trade Noah syndergaard because we think we're still in it giants two and a half games behind behind the wild card in the nationally. We think we can win it so we're not gonNA Trade Madison Bumgarner so I think one of the reasons why everything froze was that everybody everybody thinks they're still in it. I mean I don't know how many teams are within five Games Walker but it's a it's a whole bunch that's right everything froze because to eight teams and they have a shot at it and also when you it's July thirty first. There's like a whole couple of months left to get through all of August and you don't okay have it in baseball like these can think and move pretty quickly and it's almost like it's too early. That's why you wrecked. That's exactly right I said why don't you have the trade deadline. On August the fifteenth teams will understand Hey. We're out of it. We got no shot right now. We might as well try. You'll have a month left. It's okay yeah and you know you know. If your Inner Korea I mean the giants are six games outer seven games out on August fifteen. Maybe they do trade Madison Bumgarner but that's why they always had the non waiver on the waiver wire trade traits that you could make an August done away with finding you just see a lot less movement now. The winner of the trade deadline was is obviously the Houston astros who adds that cranky gives them a rotation of Ver- Lander and Garrett Cole and Zach Cranky and Wade Miley Robert as soon as closer solid bullpen a and they're going to be really tough to beat in the American league and it would not surprise me at all now to see a rematch of twenty seventeen in this year's world series well. I like the Braves Nice acquisitions for the Bullpen Shane Green Green Green is a great gap that got Luke Jackson at the end of that bullpen rotation is is totally totally solid with Taryn and <hes> who else again their rotation. I don't have any pictures on your fantasy team. By the way behind behind. My fantasy finally passed me. Yep Look it's it's the conway and we're terrible terrible fighting for six or seven fighting for seven ACLU's winning that league same guy like Robin. No Mike Robbins T._v.'s Mike Rob Producer of the new C._B._S.. Series all rise yeah in which is <hes> starting in September was was a novice for Steven bochco on L._A.. Law N._Y._P._d.. Blue has done a bunch of shows he is. He's winning. He's the commissioner and he deserves to win. One year never wanted before. He's he one years ago but it's been a while since she's on yeah. Should I make a favorable favorable trade with him. Yes okay okay help mouth 'CAUSE I. I have three closers and I thought two of them were GONNA get traded and none of them did a lot of strength thou him Ramona. Why isn't anybody tire maybe people aren't I'm just not hearing it? When is Paul George Place first game as a clipper over I when when the trade went down the information I had was that he was probably GonNa miss two to three weeks of the regular season so like pretty much all of October? Yeah Yeah like you know before Thanksgiving but that's that's a size at ten fifteen games in the west with the West. It's GonNa be yeah pretty loaded that significant a and it kind of depends on how it gets us to progress. I'm saying when the trade went down like that's what I heard. Maybe he's a little further ahead now like I don't know where he is in his Rehab had surgery on both shoulders children not on the same day but he did like the right one after the season and the left one later and I think it's like that's serious right right. I mean I saw him at the press conference conference the other day <hes>. It's GonNa take them a minute. You know they're gonNA take. They're gonNA take a little while to come together and pull together. They still there other weakness. I if if you could say they have one is just that they don't have <hes> they don't have a true point guard right you. Have you trade away. Shy Patrick Beverley is you're. You're opening Dave winco oh. You're opening your starting point. Yeah I love Patrick Beverley. He's more of a defensive minded point guard right then you know you're Lonzo ball or region Rondo or somebody like that but other than that like I was a I think the clippers are Vegas is choice now in the West Back and say I've seen person I've seen clippers. It depends where you WANNA go. I can't wait for them to play. I think that that staple center is going to be the hub of the N._B._A.. This year I'm excited. I will have to travel as much try it. It's all here yeah all across the street. It's been a really long time since staple center happened. I mean the clippers as good as they were the last couple of years they were. They were nice little story. They were not the championship contenders no in it. I think it's been what four or five years since it felt like we had teams year that we're contending yeah. Probably the last that less the sports scene down there was when the Kings won their second Stanley Cup and when he fourteen yeah because nobody's really the Lakers right after today dropped out of the playoff picture and the clippers never got out of the second round Yep purgatory yes Jennifer purgatory yeah. I got got a bow out for purgatory. You WanNa hang around. You can't actually go now because you'll sit and try meeting. I'm doing maybe your name on the other line. Thank you have to get across to Beverly Hills by four. So you leave now. Yeah I WANNA make sure do we have George for purgatory. We do get sick chaser cool. I will see you tomorrow. At twelve twelve o'clock I twelve thirty one laura and don't forget Friday is fast Austrac Friday. We're doing three and a half hours. Fast exactly what you should do on a Friday at the beginning of August. Yes absolutely literally what we're doing right by by the way running you know he's asking the first fast question who who else Jim Hill Jim Hill that makes sense. I'm saying about that who else would ask the first question does he get the show this gym lessons every day. Yeah it's like when private noodle get this show. He gets it. He GonNa

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Marathon Listening

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

31:51 min | 1 year ago

Marathon Listening

"Baseball tonight the PODCAST is is the baseball tonight. Podcast Tuesday February twenty fifth. Two Thousand Twenty. I'm buster only and producing back in Bristol. Taylor Swift Taylor how you doing today. I'm okay. I'm waiting through some some spring training like production issues Back in Bristol. But it's all good another day tabby you know what it's like the exhibition season you get little bits and pieces you get some dry runs and batting practice but it all worked out before we get to the start of the season absolute hold on. Because I'm going to put you on the spot here in a second just a follow up on that Madison Bumgarner story about how he was competing in rodeos under assumed name Arizona General Manager. Mike Hazen talked about that yesterday. He said he was aware bumgarner was quote a very strong horsemen and he followed up with that. Saying Madison's Grow Man. We know he's committed to helping US achieve our goals as a team. Those have been the conversations. We've Hatton time we. I talked to him until very recently Toriola Vullo. Their manager also told spoke with reporters about this and said it was a non issue. I suspect it was probably more of an issue Taylor behind the scenes. Not that they would be mad but they were just. Hey since you signed the contract you shut this down right you you stop doing this right. You stopped roping steer right Madison. I think that's probably what's going on behind the scenes deal. What do you think? Yeah definitely downplaying it. I guess and I don't blame him either. They kind of know. Probably don't want the snowball and become like a controversy which would be dumb But I do like the use of horsemen in that quote. That was very strong allergy. There I think we're all learning a little bit about road yesterday when I was just typing up the episode notes in making my little graphic and I was like is Rodeo a hobby. Do you do Rodeo I? I wasn't really sure how to deploy that as a verb. There you go. Well you know what I'm going to have to get some answers for you. I grew up on a dairy farm not as well versed in Rodeo. Not as fluent in Rodeo talk yesterday. Mookie BETTS had his first game action for the dodgers. The dodgers get their space runner with two gone here in the third. And mookie betts comes up at the end of the backsliding stopping short by MANDIC. But he can't pull the trigger bets board first and second to get the ball. Spurs dodger. Hit and especially ruled. One ball out of Joe Davis Orel Hershiser on the dodgers TV network. Yeah we'll get his first hand in dodger uniform in an exhibition game and he took the ball out of play. That's awesome Derek. Jeter spoke with reporters on Monday. And he said the Astros scandal was a black eye for baseball. Seems to be the never ending question. It's like a slow drip of response coming up so you hope at some point People can just move on and and but it's look it's unfortunate to black the sport that's the bottom line and You know when you talk about people trying to get an edge in baseball. I mean. I don't think that's anything. New People have been trying to do for years but obviously sick it. Way Too far and You know there's penalty sport. They're paying the price and regardless of what the penalties are you know. They'RE GONNA have their opinions on what they think should happen to but You know you hope that over time it passes but Sure this has been a single Jose altuve and some of his astros teammates had their first action in a road game on Monday. And before we talk about that be sure to check out this week's episode of the hoop collective the guys are digging into the NBA MVP race discussing how dominant Lebron. James has been and when to raise the warning flag on the clippers. And the all in rockets. Find It. Wherever you get your podcast. Were considered show. Welcome to the show. Welcome to show working to the show. Welcome to the show show walk. Welcome to the show. You Work Yuga show with show when Peter David Scholefield rights for ESPN DOT COM. How you doing today? Good good good to see baseball's back. I watched the MARLINS and cardinals yesterday. So tells you how excited we are for baseball. There were watching the the Miami Marlins in February. I know I was doing his thing yesterday. I was like going back and forth folding laundry and then trying to catch to particular pitchers and then I got to say that when we started to see the eighty seven ninety. Two's I didn't watch quite as much but I was watching in following and I'm sure you are too when Jose Altuve came to the plate for the first time yesterday on four a road game. He was playing a gap in the Lakeland against the Tigers and he was booed heavily. I'm sure you've seen the audio that heard the audio that Dave and then later in the game this happened off speed and rip down the Left Field Line. That's a fair Paul into the corridor. Straw trucking for third base. They're going to send him and he's GonNa make it easily as the throat comes in to Bay with an RV double. The Astros lead to nothing. Steve Sparks sparks with that. Call on seven ninety. Am and day by just sort of absorbed. Well that and I'm like well that that needs to be the asteroid nutshell. They're on the road. They're going to get booed. You had a hit by pitch. Although it wasn't intentional it was a breaking ball and I checked with people and Lakeland last night and just because I had seen the people describe it now. It was a a breaking ball. Hit him in the foot and everybody talked to. Last night was no. There was no way that was intentional. But then Al rips double. That's what's GonNa Happen for the two thousand Twenty Astros. Yeah that's the only way they're going to silence a the booze even though Al to bait roses quote. We didn't really hear. It was just heard a lot of noise his right well. I'm pretty sure they heard more than noise. They knew they were booze and they were loud especially for you know a small spring training crowds so yeah it doubles hit home run score runs. That'll shut up the fans pretty quickly. I thought over the weekend we had the stories from the Astros camp about the death threats and you know as I sort of process that absorb more of it. My thought was that might have as much or more to do with social media in this era than it does anything else that if fans have easy access to players through twitter through instagram and they get to hides anonymously and they can take shots at these guys. And if I were an agent for a George Springer agent for Carreira. Our agent for Josh Radic. I would tell them. Look just get off social media. The don't bother yourself with it this year create and I know that there are general managers. Do this they'll create an account just to sort of follow along with social media versus participating. It's not a burner account. They're not jumping in and ripping writers who ripped they works but they create account just to follow social media. That's what I would tell my players. Don't even bother with it. What do you know I think? Less social media would be good advice for all of us but yet no doubt. Because you're going to get that negative reaction all season long. We've all seen the anger in the vitriol that that occurs on social media and you can only imagine how fans of other teams are going to direct that towards. Houston you know. Nobody wants to see death threats. And if you know even if they're in jest you know report it to authorities have twitter. Look into it. Kick these people off social media as angry as we all are with the Astros. You can't react in that manner but yeah the easiest way. Don't look as stay off Mike. Fires who pitches for Oakland pitch for the two thousand Seventeen Astros and was the whistle blower for that athletic story that kicked off all this conversation. He's been getting death threats. Marta Shera ESPN analyst was on get up and he talked about Mike Fires. I just think that there are very few people out there. That really even used the word snitch and rat anymore anyway like this visit goodfellas. This is the real world in the real world. You what bad things brought to light. You don't want cheating whether it's in sports or in corporate America you don't want people breaking the law so mike fires. It took a lot of guts for him to come out and I applaud him for doing that. And I gotTa Tell You. I was really happy to hear a player. Say that this is rob Manfred Ron Manfred says and it just goes down a hole and no one listens to it. Because he's a he's a lawyer who wears a suit and he works for Major League. Baseball player says it. It's going to sound differently. What'd you think? Yeah no doubt. Especially since we've seen others from to share his era like Pedro Martinez and David Ortiz. Both come out basically against Mike Fires and being critical of them for for exposing all this. So yeah it'd be nice to see more not only old timers that hate to call to share old-timer former player but I'd like to see a few current players stand behind fires as well. Because where would we be without this exposure I think ultimately were the sports can be in a better spot because of Mike Fires? It's still amazing to me. How different of an existence. Garrett Cole is living than a lot of his astros teammates and lookie should be living a different existence because he wasn't on the seventeen astros and he was a pitcher so he wasn't benefiting from any of the banging on even if it continued over the two thousand eighteen. He is love and life with the Yankee and they love him. He came out last night. I I apparently struck out two guys and he talked about his first game action when well. Yeah it was It was fun pitchers worked. Well Gary trying to get Trento strikes trying to get the work done and trying to get familiar with players. You know so talking with the guys on couple comebacker trying to go over. Who's covering Just trying to keep communicating with Gary. So we can hopefully read minds at some point. You know lost the one Guy Ho two Tucker Couple of quality fastballs at the top but one of the story has to be in the zone and So next outing will be continued. Fine tune. some command but also try to keep the execution in terms of how stuff's coming out very. I think there's only one or two really really pretty poor pitches so This is good. Work his emergence in the Yankees camp. Oh by the way that sound from. Mlb Dot com his emergence and Yankees. Camp Dave reminds me of when Roy Halladay went to the phillies. Because if you remember Roy you know how to house in clearwater area. He wanted to go to the phillies when the Blue Jays. We're talking about dealing him to another team. He got his wish in when he went there. Like all the other guys in the phillies sort of gravitated toward him and they would watch him come in for four thirty four thirty five o'clock in the morning to do his work outs and they emulated so much of the stuff that he was doing. It feels like what's happening with Garrett Cole and he's just loving it yeah no doubt I think beyond the numbers. I've always felt a true number one ace. And there's not. A lot of those are always underrated. Even they bring so much more than just the stats you know. And I know war you know Garrett Kohl's projection of six point eight war I guarantee you. He's going to be worth more than six. And a half to seven wins for the Yankees this year. It just takes a load off everybody else especially you know. We're already seeing some injuries with a James Paxton in Luis Severino in camp. You know the work ethic that you mentioned you know that's a positive it just I don't know it. Just be a guy like that. Bring so much more to a team. And you're right he's GonNa love. It is going to have a monster year. He's obviously the CY young favorite the American League. And you know like Spring Training Game. Two strikeouts hit ninety eight. I think the key is going to be how he develops that rapport with Gary Sanchez behind the plate. I don't expect too many issues there. He's GonNa Win Twenty Games this year. We're still awaiting word from the Yankees on what Luis. Severino was diagnosed with after undergoing tests. Back here in New York. There was good news on James Paxton by the way I saw him last week. And I'm like how you doing. And he was like I'm feeling good. He was moving around pretty well after having that surgery to move from his back and instead of the initial four to six month timetable. They're not talking about him being out in as little as for as little as six weeks if he starts throwing the next ten days. That would be a huge boost for the Yankees at a time when people are wondering about the depth and their rotation speaking of that. I was in Red Sox camp for a couple days last week. That team looks like it has a great lineup and really there. Two Thousand Twenty eight might come down to the type of production they get out of their rotation. It was Nathan of all the yesterday and Dave looked great. Akron injury place as any day from the mets swaying an Ms. He worked in down way to retire. The CY after one red sox. Here's the patch Andy Swings and doesn't get strike three a cutter in the dirt reason he got the big contracts weighing in ms through it by him. I had a lot of cut to it at ninety. I mean Rouzi was a big deal. Oh Yeah `cau- strike over the inside. Connor says the delay call by Valentine's while I was the beauty in their retired besides are very impressive. Audi four all that's right of all the two innings four strikeouts they call Joe Castiglione on W. EAE and just being in Red Sox camp last week I we get caught up in the maybe the emotion of spring training but just talking with guys on that team. They're feeling is Chris. Sale right now is feeling great. He looked strong in some of his bullpen. Sessions you've got a volley they're giving order. I guess a little bit of a scare with a knee the other day. But if they get any kind of production out of the back end of their rotation. That's an interesting team David. I don't look. I don't think they're close to the Yankees. I don't view them as a contender for the for the American League. East division title but in terms of being a playoff team. Yes with ZANDER. Bogart's Andrew Benintendi Raphael. Evers in JD. Martinez is in phenomenal condition. You remember that ankle injury that he was dealing with in the postseason two thousand eighteen. That many couldn't do a lot of his workouts. In the off season he was able to win this past off season. He looks extraordinary. That's an interesting team to me. Yeah I think they're gonNA be vastly underrated in all the preseason predictions Last year twelve starts five nine nine year. He wasn't good Chris. Sale did make twenty five stars but four point four zero era although his peripheral numbers were much better than that. Two hundred eighteen KS at one hundred forty seven innings if you can get close to sixty starts out of those two. I know that's asking a lot. They both been injury. Prone you know the last couple of seasons but yet in a healthy at Ronald Rodriguez. That's a really good one two three. We know they're gonNA score runs. I'm with you the mookie loss. That's huge. You can't deny that but this team don't be shocked like you said Yankees heavy favorites. I love Tampa Bay but I think the Red Sox have the talent to be in the wild card race. No doubt of all the yesterday fastball. At one hundred through a nasty splitter he talked about it was like the reappearance of a pitch for him and while we always sort of reflexively so yeah they lost David price they loss Rick Portillo. Neither of those guys were that great last year. It so it's not like they're losing two guys who were Cilantro cy young caliber in two thousand nineteen. It'll be it'll be an interesting team to watch as we go through this season you piece on. Espn DOT COM recently. I want to get a feel for each of these. You picked out a stat that will shape two thousand twenty for each National League team. One that jumped out to you. As you researching that article one that jumped out was the Chicago cubs and last year kind of I call it their core five guys Bryant Rizzo by is contrary Schwarzer. They get a lot of criticism in part when these guys were still young in two thousand sixteen we thought these guys are all going to be all stars and studs and all that well last year that core five was actually better collectively than they were in two thousand eighteen. The biggest problem with the cubs last season was the secondary players. The Addison Russell's Daniel. This council is terrible Benz over scuttle the bullpen struggled. It wasn't as much the frontline players as that second tier. They were awful terrible so if the cubs if their bench players their backups. Do a little better this year. I think the cubs have the potential to to win that division. Really interesting signing to me was Steven Souza Junior. Yeah when he's healthy and he's able to play he can be a productive player. They signed him. I think for a million dollars in guaranteed salary. Another guy in your mix in the outfield. You also did Article One stat. That will shape two thousand twenty for every American League team. Pick that one. That was like three weeks ago buster. You're putting me on the spot. Well here's I you know we just talked about Garrett Cole and you know what he might mean to the Yankees and I forget the exact numbers but they were six in the American league in rotation era but their biggest problem there was they were near the bottom in innings pitched by starters even for a while. They went with the opener. So it's not that you're adding gear cold beer adding two hundred plus innings of Garrett Cole which means less work for the bullpen which means the bullpen might even be better in two thousand twenty because they won't have to work quite as hard. I will see how these injuries play out. But that's what I'm that's the ripple effect of that number one starter. You know taking some of that load off the bullpen. And that's why Garrett Cole is going to be worth more than just six point eight wins to the Yankees in two thousand twenty and he also wrote a piece the most interesting non roster player for all thirty Major League Baseball teams. Who would be the number one and I? I'm GonNa Steal this title from the NFL. Draft Mr Relevant so to speak. Yeah well this is always one of my favorite pieces to do. It's to go through every team. Just look the non roster guys. I don't think we see as many of the old thirty eight year old vets is. We used to but one guy who still hanging out there Edwin Jackson. I think he's played for what fourteen teams he's back with Arizona. He was terrible last year. I saw he pitched yesterday gave up two runs but hey give Edwin Jackson credit. He's trying to play to the last ounce of his baseball life exists and he's a long shot to make the team. You probably won't make it. But he's trying so I applied at Jackson. That's golf claps rambling Jackson. Also one of the good guys in baseball all right Dave. Thanks for doing this. Great to talk with you all right. Thanks Buster numbers game. Sarah legs a reporter and producer for MLB DOT COM. Sarah how you doing today. I'm doing great although I ran a half marathon this weekend so it's good that I can do the podcast sitting down when I ran a marathon or actually I ran twenty and then sorta staggered the last six. I never forget like two days my cabs. I could not move the same sort of thing. Yeah Yeah I've got. I recently discovered. Kt Tapes so. I've been dealing with some of that and trying to stay still there. You go all right. Let's talk about the braves lineup. Without Josh Donaldson we had a bleacher tweeter. Ask a question yesterday about that. I think it's one of the more important questions about the braves this year. Can they make up for his production? They're gonNA try and riot Riley at third. They're going to try Johan Camargo. They signed Marcella. I think it's going to be tough. Share what do you think yes you now. I think it is too but it's interesting. The projections don't necessarily think it's going to be as tough as we seem to think so fan graphs projects. They will get twenty five point five war from their batter's this year which is seventh in the majors and second in the NL. Behind the dodgers. And I think the big piece there is. They're projecting a pretty big year for OSCEOLA and they're projecting a big year and home runs from Marcello Zuma's so steamer has them getting four or more wins about replacement from Koonya Freeman and Albee's each and then thirty plus homers from Kunia Freeman Zuma. And if you look at the braves last year and what they did. What Donaldson did he had? Four point nine wins above replacement. Thirty seven home runs ninety four. Rbi He was sort of third on every list at least offensively behind Freeman in Kunia but then after him there was a big drop off right so in home runs than got into the twenties for whoever was fourth in. Rbi's you're into the eighties for whoever was fourth. And I think that it's just gonNA matter if someone does step up and I think that always is a great option. Someone that we've been really waiting to see. Take that next step. He did win a silver slugger. Last year he he began to and to continue with that. And it was gonna be a big home. Run Guy for them you know regardless of what he's doing you know maybe defensively or even just batting average wise that that's what they're going to need. A water line of protection is former pirates manager. Clint hurdle used to like to say comes from the guys in front of a particular hitter. Not necessarily the guys who bat behind a hitter and I'm curious about the protection. That Freddy Freeman. Has this year because it felt like that. For one of the first times in Freeman's career opponents were forced to deal with him and he was terrific up to the point that his is Elbow became a problem at the end of the year. Give me the name of a team that you think could take a big jump in total this year. Yes you know. This is an interesting one because I think everybody always wants the team. Take a big jump to be the team. That's GonNa make the playoffs out of nowhere. But I think that if you actually look at the standings in which teams are going to be appreciably better. It's probably still not playoff team so I hope. This isn't like an unsatisfying answer but I think the white sox could be that I mean. They won seventy two games last year. They're currently projected to win around eighty four. That doesn't put them into the playoffs. Twenty seven percent chance to make the playoffs right now with the playoff odds that we just got up. I think like last week That fan graphs has that. But that's a huge jump right. Twelve wins that's a whole lot. We know who they've got coming with. Louis Robert We know that Illinois Jimenez. We'll have a full year Kaikal. Hopefully sort of be the Elder statesman in that rotation. Kopech coming back. Moncada hadn't awesome year so I think they could make a huge jump in. I think the padres are very similar. There where they won seventy wins last year. They're also projected for eighty four also not really a playoff team there but I mean that's a huge jump in that really gets either of those teams toward what we've seen them working towards with these rebuilds or whatever you wanNA call them and potentially making the Ploughs Twenty Twenty One. Yeah especially. I think you could see the white sox take a big jump because they are in an invasion with two teams. It figured struggle The tigers royals and the Indian wind up trading lindores during the course of the year than that You know they could take a big hit in the second part of the season. So we'll see how that plays out the other day. Our old friend David Ross announced. He's going to bed Kris Bryant leadoff. He's got what I saw. Anthony Rizzo is going to bat second. That's how I would vote a lineup Sarah after absorbing all the analytics in the lessons from people like yourself through the years I said the other day that if I were the manager of the angels I would bat trout I and I would hit Shohei Ohtani Second. Patou speed guys at the top. I put random third. What do you make David? Ross batting Lee. Brian leadoff of the cubs. I I was listening to that. Podcast you did with wall. I was running on Sunday and I was like nodding along as I was running. So just you know how I work no music. I listen to you guys. Listen to like everything for last week but I totally agree. I mean everything that I've learned about lineup. Construction which is sort of one of those you know the more you learn about it. It's a little bit amid the most important thing is that you want your best hitter to get as many plate appearances as possible. And that's why I love the idea of having Bryant one Rizzo to you. Know they try to go a little bit with Rizza last year. And you know it was incredibly small sample but he was probably their best leadoff hitter and the fans loved it and you know that sort of a fun thing to but he had forty six plate appearances hitting leadoff last year and he had a four ten batting average hundred. Ob and if you compare to overall leadoff hitters for the cubs last year and I know you mentioned this to Carl the other day to ninety four on base to twelve batting average. Both were last in the majors so I just. It makes complete sense to me that he's probably their most dynamic in best hitter. Chris Ryan you might as well have him up there and it could be really interesting you know I mean. He had a big power year last year. I know a lot of guys did. But he had thirty one homers. The most home runs by a cubs player season leadoff spot thirty three by. Soriano in seven. And then before that was rick. Monday had thirty one in nineteen seventy six so we could see him up there and I just think you know not have kyle shore Good player Definitely power got. But he had the most plate appearances. Hopefully it off spot from the For them last year. Two hundred fifty three plate appearances there with a three O. Four on base and hit two twenty-nine those plate appearances and next most was Jason Heyward hundred forty seven plate appearances two fifty two on base percentage in those and a one forty seven batting average. Like you cannot have not going on so if you flip that to be Kris Bryant who is your MVP winner and all of these trade talks which tells you how good he is in all of that. That seems like a much better way to start the game right and have better lineup. A quick follow on that. I gotta say that among guys that we've worked with WHO've gone on to manage teams Rossi might have been the most unlikely for me to absorb this type of thinking. Maybe that came out of his conversation with the Front Office. What was your reaction knowing his personality somewhat that he would be the guy to do this. I was just like yes Roissy. Yes this is what I love to see. You know I mean he is such a you know former player in all of that way too what you're making reference to. But he was always so interested in getting research for the show. You know even if he wasn't GonNa make reference to the number maybe he just wants to know that he's writing this conviction that conviction and he was so much fun to work with so I love that he's using other people's research now you know and that's awesome. Say All Right Sarah. Thanks for doing this and remember. Hydrate thank you. So much for having me lead your tweets already. Buster bleacher tweets for Tuesday. We got sterling up first at stir. Ride seventy three. This person asks. Do you think this will be frank? Ona's last year as the manager in Cleveland. If they show that they are starting to rebuilt seems like he's ready for fresh start similar to madden. I don't think so first off. He signed a contract extension. That runs through two thousand twenty. Two and Terry loves to manage. He reminds me Bobby Cox. In that regard. He just likes being around it. He's still a terrific manager. And you know what I mean Terry went to the Indians part of the reason. Why chose that team? Even though there were small market team is really likes. The people he works with Chris. Antonetti baseball ops in particular. So I think Terry Francona will keep going and going and going and you know what they could be good in a couple of years like and people you work with always important no matter. The Work Environment Josh. Smith'S AT CHIVALRY UNE dead asks some veterans traveling. Spring Games and others don't is that something decided by the player contract language the manager or something else that contract language it comes down to seniority. The manager will always do if you have a guy who's in his mid thirties. They're not going to travel that much. The manager will respect their service time. Respect the veterans in that regard. I heard managers through the years. Talk about those guys who have like two or three or four years of service time going up to them and say look. I need you to make a couple of trips this spring so you can pick out which trips you wanna make but it usually comes down to conversation between the manager and the players for older guys for young guys get your stuff and get on the bus last one up here for today and this gets a little personal with buster excited to hear answer. Boone at to`make comic Jim. What type of setup did your old school milking parlor have double eight double ten or was it a flat barn and you were milking hand sitting honesty boone. You have been around. Bigger BARNS THAN OUR BARN was first off and and this is going to be farmed talk. So excuse me Taylor okay. We started out with Stanton since we started out with stands in a barn that was built in one thousand nine thirty two and it was specifically built for Jersey cows which meant were smaller. We eventually restructure dad to create a milking parlor in which we could milk to cows at the same time but I never did. The milken handle king sitting on a stool farmers. Who who did that and you could always tell them. Buy Their handshake because men strong hands. That's hilarious always always interested to hear about life on the dairy farm. So thanks for the question. Boone before we get out of here just obviously hashtag bleed or tweets is how you get in touch with us. We want to be sure that you all are subscribing to the podcast telling your friend stealing their phones and subscribing for them You know the podcast. Obviously great for variety situations including marathon running as Sarah told us today. So keep sharing the podcast keep subscribing. It's all very important. Give us reviews ratings all of that jazz and one more thing. I want to mention before we get out here. We are going to start previewing Basically every team we're GONNA DO DIVISION BY DIVISION. I up it's going to be the Al East. We're going to drop that on Tuesday tentatively. I think we will probably able to get out then and then we will do the. Nfl West. I believe on Thursday. So keep an eye out for those coming. And by the way boone brought up some bad memories that are just going through my brain now. Not only did we. When we had the stanchion milking we had to carry the buckets of milk up a set of stairs to take to the bulk tank to pour in there. You talk about as attend eleven year old. Carrying a bucket of mouthful bucket of milk you knew slashing all of my legs all right. That's it for those ugly memories. My thanks today. Today's show and field. Sarah Lang's Taylor's Schwenk have a great day. Everybody thanks for listening. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight. Podcast if you're playing fantasy baseball don't forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcasts at ESPN DOT com slash. Podcast center. Baseball tonight the PODCAST.

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Starting 9 Episode #88 - Davis Streak, Mariners & A Surprise Guest

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Starting 9 Episode #88 - Davis Streak, Mariners & A Surprise Guest

"What back to start at nine? Let's episode eighty eight creeper up on that hun dope piece shelves to Michael Irvin. Sorry could join the show today. Oh god. By the way that Kevin Poole. Our interview a lot of great feedback. Great feedback. Lot of kids for the kids out there listening to starring nine. The message could not have been clearer doesn't matter. What size yards as a matter. What round? You got drafted in impossible is is is a mindset that you create for yourself because Kemp LA was out there. Making things happen in a in a in a situation where it was not exactly favorable for him to make it to the big leagues. Now. He's with the San Francisco Giants hitting hitting grand slams deal. Sorry about it. And it's great because. He he let us inside. Man. He let us inside. He didn't have to share the shitty shared. He didn't really have to to peel back those layers, and I don't know that a lot of people really understood that about Kevin pillar had a feel for exactly the road. He had travelled, right? Some of the shit that he has dealt with some of the some of the nose and the hurdles that were placed in front of him said fuck it to all of it and his raking in the big leagues. So that was that was really and you're right. You're at a lot of good feedback. And I think that's what's really cool about us having opportunity to sit down with these guys that linked is the stuff you get to talk about you find out they're very passionate about it. And and you can just roll, and you can really get a sense of the human being so shout to the Toronto Blue Jays for allowing that to happen for making that happen. And obviously deploy LARs well, yeah. That everybody got to listen to that shit. Because that was that was awesome shit. Oh, yeah. It was that was one of my. Personal Fe 'cause he was he got it. You know, there's some guys that we have on. And it's like they're going to keep the I'll make a bowling reference for Dallas is not very good at it. They keep their bumpers up a little bit. They wanna stay stay down the middle of the lane there. Then there's some guys who are just not afraid to throw a gutter ball suck guys. Just not afraid to get down in the gutter. That was are right here. The gate right out of the gate. Nope. Bunkers necessary. Not need those bumpers, which is you know, very, muddy Dallas. It's having a feel it's feel he he wasn't intimidated. He he wasn't making excuses. Like, oh, I need this to be candle pin? He was he was in it to win it. He knew what he had to do. He knew we had to be himself. Then that's what the people got. Yeah. Which was refreshing was refreshing. Back to the whole Chris Archer thing that was. I don't know. This is the suspensions were handed out five games aka one start for Chris Archer. I don't know. I feel like if you don't actually hit the guy. Maybe I'm wrong doesn't really merit a suspension. It's kinda like maybe maybe like a fine for inciting a riot by week. It's kind of like a jaywalking. Yeah. Like if you if you like actually come at a guy, it's like, right? We'll give you a gain. Even eight games is is is still kind of like one start. For throwing out a guy's head or you hit a guy in the numbers Easter behind him. And remember what I would I explained what I tried to break down is the way that the game is allowed or the way that the players can police themselves is being limited. And will you're saying that's what rules are for the they should be policing them. No, no, no, no, no, folks. That's what happens in the world of professional athletics is you've got a shit ton of multimillionaire egos in the same room. Whether it's on a baseball field, an NBA court, the ice doesn't matter the pitch wherever you're at all these people have to coexist will it's a room full of ALPHA's. And I'm not, you know, I'm just I'm gonna let you know based on what I've come to understand. Let's say you're in a incarceration situation. You wanna know who who's running that room, the ALPHA's ALPHA's run the room, and that goes for every room you ever set. Foot in how do you control those Elvis? If you yourself are not a alpha. Maybe you're a beta looking around you probably just gonna fall line. That's kind of what happens. So when when the heaters and spikes up our laws of the land guess who's gonna police themselves the people throwing heaters the people wearing spikes? And those are called the players, and that's how that's gonna go your opportunity to do. So is is being taken away from you right because of trying to figure out a way to make sure that Chris Archer feels the five game suspension affect and not just one start because you could technically call it one star. But you know, what this day and age starters getting used differently? So you very well could be using Chris Archer on day three his bullpen day. And that's how I look at it. So hey, yeah. That's just mentioned does does matter. It is more than just once. It's one start. But you don't get to use. His look the bottom line. Is guys are trying to teach other guys how to Bill about this game in a certain way and standing there dressing up homers at home plate. If you haven't done much is going to rub. Some guys the wrong way. It just is. And the sooner you can accept that. And kind of accepted understand what goes on after that. I think the easier you'll be able to make peace with the policing of the game itself. That's just my opinion. But if you're going to sit here, and wait until some law is figured out to where like Chris Archer has to name his child after rob Manfred. If he gets bucking suspended for hitting somebody that's not gonna happen. We're not going to come to a law where you're just going to get rid of one exist. In your career. Did you ever intentionally throw it somebody with your blazing fastball? I followed the rules jeered. I mean that could mean that community you different things did you ever? Maybe let one slip here in there. Or was it sort of just the not mate will ever go to bed questioning whether or not I had their back. Okay. And if question that. You can ask ask look a man by the name of Jeff Bazeley? Okay. Former roommate of mine. Excuse me. Former teammate of. I don't know how you mix up those too. But. Because we spent a long spend a lot of time together in the minor leagues. Buffalo Wild Wings shout out to Midland, Texas. Spend a lot of time with a guy but against him. Obviously. So Chris Archer it's five games aka one star for throwing behind Dietrich Yossi tweet surprisingly only gets two games for attempted murder or like a mass murder, actually. Not that I'm advocating for a stiffer penalty for Yossi elp week. But. I don't know if 'cause I like weeks. Let's just like let's just cover up the name and say it's player ex. Let's look at player Xs record player access has done shit. Like this a lot. He's he's been at the forefront of many a scrum. But I guess, you know, like, no punches were throwing or landed. That's thing. But it's like it's kinda like dude whenever there's a scrum. Even if you're involved or not involved, it seems like you are at the forefront of it. So I don't know if you'd want some I think it's good for the game. I mean, the video of that altercation. We can't call it a brawl or a fight that altercation. It's that like almost seven million views. So I'm not going to punch a guy forgoing fucking psycho. And being one of the reasons why that was such a viral clip? It's not a it's not a base brawl. That's the thing. It's not a baseball brawl. I mean, it's more like a seventh grade date to the movie theater. A lot of heavy breathing. Ding and some fumbling around and like at most you you catch in an upper areola. Maybe that's that's about all that happens in those pushing and shoving matches. So the two days, the two games, whatever. Yeah. Fuck whatever. Whatever it's not ten. So that then it's not Ted. And I mean, like, I I'm thinking about Yaseen plead sounding like John Rambo. He's on the phone explaining to the sheriff. Who are you in? A mirror under worst nightmare. I imagine plead going through that in his head. And then just saying fuck it. It's. Because there was like a there was a moment. There was the build up like angry or pretty angry, really angry. And now, it's like I'm coming for your spawn, I I love the energy love the energy. But I am here for the buck in route Netto door, Joey bats type baseball like you've gotta problem who we issues. Let's go how many times Jared? How many times have I petitioned for the NHL hockey rules to be transferred over to the baseball field done it? I've asked for it to happen. Let them let them roll you. And me, let's go if you can stop me into a muddle you've turned into an oil stain. Great see a hope I can still pitch if not that was an asshole move by me, wasn't it. Yeah. Second of shuts the door on that. But again, I love I love the fact that anytime that there's a brawl. Yes. Yelp week is right there in the middle of it. Like that guy's just ready to go whether whether you've wronged him or not it's he's just ready to defend his teammates via fisticuffs. I'm going to call an audible here to of. Two topics. This. There's two topics that I want to hit on today. The first one let's give some love to the Seattle. Mariners while dropping lots of de everywhere. The Pacific northwest is on fire corrobos on fire my Twitter feed getting blown up booking mariner fans. It's what they're twelve and two. And I think they've homered in all fourteen games about bucking Mitch Haniger. My God who we wanted to get on the spikes up tour didn't work out. But not no forever. Nope. Out right now just to couldn't right now. Yeah. Seattle Mariners have the best run differential in major league baseball through through fourteen games. There are plus forty one. They've won nine of their last ten five straight coming into Thursday. I don't like and they're seven and water on the road. There's seven one on the road. Are we buying this small sample from from the the early going from the Seattle? Mariners. I can't. Well, I just remember what was it? It was either last year the year before our member talking about the Seattle manners. 'cause they they held a playoff spot somewhat decently into the season. And what was the canosa's bench in last year? Yes. Okay. So then it was last year because we were talking about canot like where are they going? What are they gonna do with them when he comes back, and because he is not eligible for the postseason if the mayor's make it we're talking postseason for that. Mariners team last year. Do you get the sense that, you know, without Edwin d as we know that they're not a better team in that regard necessarily. But what about just what about this? Mariners team just feels different to you versus the Seattle Mariners of a year ago. 'cause there is a completely different feel. I feel like I mean. There's a a longer line of. I think that's ultimately what you take away from this team. Now is I mean because there were guys who came up last year during the season. Like, I'm trying to think what Vogel box is a name that I think comes to mind. Yeah. Who the fuck was this, dude? He came out of nowhere, and he was fucking throwing head a little bit. And I just I think I just just shit like that. You're like you have an idea of who these guys are now. Why? And I guess I'm speaking more from a guy who watches the AL west, you know, very closely. It's not a lineup that you're like. Oh, wow. Oh, you guys. I mean, come on tip fucking is. This is the Tim Beckham coming out party is slaying Slade corrobos, Tim that is has not stopped dropping dick since Japan. I can't really this guy's been a pain in my ass since two thirty in the morning in the middle of fuck and March he's his lugging seven seventy three. And I'm sitting here going. All right. Like, I I'm not taking shoot away from from from back at all not taking anything away from him. But I'm thinking to myself is this what we're fucking dealing with right now is about to happen or is Malik Smith and like Tim Beckham just about two, and I'm even thinking about my boy, Ryan Healy. Yeah. Are all these dudes just about emerge like what I'm scared of Jared what I'm scared of. And I'll be very Frank. I'm scared of what what happened to the as last year happening to the Mariners this year, like they're all just going to be like, all right? You guys trying to get better together. Let's do and you just get like five dudes who were bubble guys. Maybe maybe a few of them that like we're going to be role players that are now like, you know, what? Now on this kind of like everyday player train. Now. Fuck it. Who would be really good? How this looks? Yeah. I mean, I can appreciate you at least extending that all of branch to the Mariners and their fans. They don't have the talent that as last year. But you're you're right. But but see I don't know that everybody assesses that situation the same. If the age don't have that type of season. Like, I I think it's they made it really easy like for people to say, well, they're good. They've got good players on that team. As did the as made it easy for. I think for folks who say that you add minutely we're watching the as a little more closely than than you have in years past. So I got you got a good feel for that. But you're right. They have locking studs, man. They do I just think that the Mariners they could they could be just a click away from like, you said Tim Beckham going, so he doesn't have a fucking nine year window where he's great maybe three year window where he. Just outstanding for who knows. Maybe that's now. And if it is I like, you know for two fucking not be please. So right now as as like the Seattle Mariners are in a situation where they're looking great. But their teams in that division that are are better than them that haven't played up to their standards just yet that being the as and the Astros but the Astros. They've they've quote unquote turned a corner this hold on turn turn the corner. They they turned a corner because they were playing poorly. Right. But then they swept the Yankees in in Houston. So after that shadow to the Astros, by the way that it's not easy to turn corners in baseball. It's you know, sometimes you get pulled him one direction. There's nothing you can do. It's like when the Titanic sank and in Jack was just getting yet down to the bottom of the ocean. By that current it just it happens. It just happens sometimes and during a baseball season so credit to the Astros for swimming to the top of the surface there and that series against New York in about four games writer, three games this three games. Yep. Three games. Very. Like a small quarter. Yeah. He has a quick corner to turn around the Astros that ever swept the Yankees ever. Yes. What the fuck really? That's you got to think about how much time they spent in the NL. Yeah. Don't think too much about that. Because then it makes my stat less impressive. Noticed that was not enough. It's true. Those fucking cutting room floor scrap impressive, nevertheless. After this game. Kick it down to the. Yes network. Yeah. Boots on the ground. They're trying to get all those quotes all those clubhouse quotes from players and coaches, alike, Morocco. It's and they go into Aaron Boone's office. And they ask him, you know, where where you guys at right now and boonies. Yeah. You know, I think we're turning a corner. You know, I think I think we're really close. We're really close Raya, positively from the Skibbe, which you know, what do you expect him to say, he's a Maltese? He's got a he's got a, you know, he's got to say what he's got to say that keep people from from falling off that cliff there, then you know, the same media members go up to Aaron judge's locker. And they relay Aaron Boone's quote directly to him about, you know, how do you feel about you guys being close you guys turning a corner? Aaron judge to is credit. I mean, like he's not gonna go. Along with the PR machine is gonna be like fuck in turn a corner. What are we talking about? We lost. That got swept returning a corner. We just got swept by the Astros. And of course, the Yankees have the the protection of being able to say, yeah, we we have a ton of injuries right now. And it's not getting any better the Luis Severino news which will get to. That's that's not overwhelmingly positive either. It's like it's not like our reinforcements. Are we we're not getting positive news out of that camp right now, I feel like maybe we're boonies head was steered desert. Is there any thought to to the movie booty very well may have thought he was still talking about the injury report? Turning the corner. Like, we've got. We got thirty seven guys on the deal right now. We turn to the corner. Excuse me. It's i'll. Oh, yeah. Don't offend me. Your your I l platoon is is is looking good those the boys that are turning the corner. I think that's what was on boonies mind near you're getting Jordan Montgomery. I mean, you said it we'll we'll get into this. I yeah. It's not a. Great look now, it's but I get I get worse. What is he supposed to say? I mean, if he sits there and makes excuses everyone will crucify him for making excuses. You're the Yankees. But I will say this though you killed on hold on. What you can't lose three fuck in games and feel like you're seeing what you need to see in a row. What you can't that can't. That's just statement. I know but a bad same. I would look Buni to like let's say the Yankees were Intel let's say the came off of that wrote came off of Houston and we're coming into Oakland. And I was at the I was around the cage. Like, I'm going to be an I would straight up. Ask him Buni. You lose you lose three in Houston. And you're right where you need to be. What what were you seeing that? That is giving you that feeling. I would have I'll tell you what it was. I mean, they were they're losing seven two. And then they made it a game. Like, they were it was late scratch a few cross every team in baseball is going to do that at some point this year. Yes. Shows not against the Astros. Yes. No, no, no, no. The back end of that Astros. Bullpen is pretty damn good. It's not one of the best. I mean, they're they're not the Yankees bullpen. They're not the as bullpen. But like they've got three guys maybe even four that are pretty damn good relievers at the back end of their bullpens scratching four runs late in the game. That is that. I'm not saying it's like all right? The eighties are back. But that's probably what he's talking about. It's like, yeah. He's talking about like you said he's got to have something positive to say. But he shouldn't have said we're turning a corner after getting swept he should have said I liked that we fought back late. I liked that. We didn't just give up that no one bats than I if you just says that right? And that's and this is just nitpicking. Now at the words, he actually used and it's all a hell of a lot easier to talk about its ways year to those interviews the day after as opposed to just wearing that loss and coming in off the field and trying to be a beacon of hope for club that just got swept by the Astros for the first time in history. So there's there's a difference there. Well, here's the other thing too. He he's handcuffed because he can't use the injury excuse at any point ever. Like, that's just not an excuse. You you come off as a baby if you're like, well like look at all the guys we got on the I L can't do that. But. The injury excuses legit against the Astros. The Anki have fucking played two series against the Orioles and one against the Tigers. Granted the Tigers are playing well, they're pitching has been outstanding. But the Yankees even with all the injuries that they've had on paper are still better than most of the teams that they've matched up against to start the year. Besides the Astros still gonna play those games still gonna play the games, but the injury excuse it, just it rings hollow. When you're playing two series against the Orioles one against the Tigers. You can't cry about your your injuries when you're playing teams that are barely major league rosters. I accept that. If that was if we're in the thick of the season, we're the we're the very beginning of the season guys are still trying to get their foundation if you will so and we're all bigly ballplayers. But there's levels to this game jeered. You know that I know that fan graphs has the Yankees at sixty seven percent to win the east right now. Tampa Bay rays looking like. I can't disagree with you. How do you? How do you not show some love to the Tampa Bay rays after the start that they had which their teams that have started off very well in twenty nineteen and you look at we've already had the conversation about the Seattle Mariners like we buying this. We not buying this with the Tampa Bay rays after the season they had last year. Can you not? But I don't know if I buy them is a is a first place team. But I definitely by them as being a team that's going to be a thorn in the Red Sox and Yankees side from from wire-to-wire. I I expect them to be the cause, you know, the Red Sox are not going to be a one hundred eight win team. They're not even going to be one hundred win team. They're going to be somewhere in the nineties in so of the race. And so are the Yankees. So I think we're looking at a division race in the AL east that maybe we didn't talk enough about. Prior to the season, we spent a lot of time talking about the NL central the NFL east those are going to be super competitive divisions as well. But here we go the Tampa Bay rays. Start off red hot Red Sox Yankees Stutthof ice cold. They're gonna meet in the middle somewhere. The Red Sox and Yankees are gonna get better. The raise will probably fall back back down to earth. Where is that though when they fall back down to earth? Where is that is it somewhere where the Red Sox and Yankees are going to eventually ascend to I don't know it's going to be it's going to be very interesting to see. But of the teams that did start hot the Mariners. The Tigers the raise. That's really been. There's I mean, I guess the dodgers. But that was more more of a offensive thing than an overall record thing. But those teams the American League, it's it's quite obvious that the rays are the most legit. But there's another big story line that has been going on in major league baseball. And that is Chris Davis of the Baltimore Orioles who still has three years left after this. What is it twenty twenty three mill a year this year through twenty twenty two? Sam. I can't believe I thought it was a seven year deal this contract. Feels like it was like for twenty five years. That's I feel like when he agreed to that deal with the Orioles at that was was that before the twenty thirteen season. That's all right. I think just before. Yeah. Like, honestly, what I think had to do with a lot of this was the fluctuation in performances back to back, and the fact that there was you know, it was documented I think because it was a lack of like he didn't have as fuck and T. We did not have his Tiwi for Admiral and. What what we saw the year before was ridiculous. And then no outer all or not we and you're like, okay. Well, who who are you? Then who who do we expect this is before the twenty sixteen season? Yeah. He he signed his deal prior coming off the season where he hit forty seven home runs and had a nine twenty three. Oh PS. God why do you like this is much longer ago? Like do this. This contract was never ever a reasonable idea. It was never a good idea. From the moment. It was signed the only people who thought this was a viable option for this franchise was the Baltimore Orioles. I mean, that's not even hindsight either. No, it's not it's not because there was obviously questions about you know, who where he's out two hundred eight times the the year the year entering free agency two hundred eight times that led major league baseball like I'm not one to freak out about strikeout. Well, he led the he'd lead. Baseball and punch outs. Two years in a row believe. Yeah. That year and the year after he signed the deal the first year of the deal in which his opiates dropped one hundred and thirty points and the plunge outs went up like to two hundred twenty or two hundred thirty or something. I mean, I don't think there's ever been anything like an opium drop of nine twenty three seven ninety two seven thirty to five thirty nine. It's at one twenty one this year. And if you watch him like watching watching the Oakland series like some of the balls that he would hit. He he's not even running shit out at this point in time. Like, he's just waiting to see if it falls. If it falls all go to I. If it doesn't fall really, what am I doing here? Like, that's kind of the end you could see him smiling and trying to find levity in the situation, which I can appreciate because again, folks as tough as it is. And I'm gonna get a little sentimental here as tough as it is for you to swallow that type of performance as a paying fan. I promise you, I promise you you do not want to wake up with the demons in the head of Chris Davis making the money. He's making putting forth that type of performance. Now, do yourself a favor and separate things that I just said, I know you would love to wake up with the money. I know you would not want to wake up with the demons that come with making that money and not being able to earn that money. Those are two very different things. And Chris Davis will be staring that demon in the face for the next three years, if he can't hit his weight, and that's that's reality. And that is a miserable fucking existence. Could you imagine being the dude who shows up to work every day and everybody in that room, basically has? All of the information. They need to know that tells them you're making their work environment. A worst place to be not by attitude not anything like that. But like if you want your company to succeed, and maybe hit some cool fortune five hundred list or something this guy right here in the room is is an active detractors in that effort majett being that guy because he's that guy. But he's that guy who's showing up grinding everyday trying to show the younger guys how to grind through this. That's a tough. Fuck you way to make money right now, bro. That's a tough way. And nobody's crying for him. Because it's a fuck tone of money. I get it. But I just I just want people to take two minutes and put yourself in that position. And think about what that would be like, you know, not being able to vacuum correctly not being able to dust correctly, not being able to cook dinner correctly like thinking about fucking. An entire day's worth of life for your family, and then like getting your data of the year award or your mother like you just I don't deserve this. I don't want this. Have you been seeing what the bucks going on? I got my kid eating out of their own diaper. I can't figure it out. Top spot. Yeah. He's also the last oils player to report for spring training. Not that that means a whole lot but going into Thursday he is oh for twenty nine with fifteen strikeouts. And how many times has he walked four. Swung for fifty going back to last year. Oh, fifty. In fact, now that we've gotten the sentimentality out of the way. Since the start of last season. Chris Davis is slashing one fifty eight to thirty six to seventy nine. That's a five fifteen over five hundred and fifty five plate appearances two hundred seven of which have ended in strikeouts. He's been worth negative three point six wins above replacement per baseball reference. That is so hard to do. He's the worst player physician player. Fi war this season. And he has the third worst strikeout. Rated forty five point five percent. I mean, these are fake ass numbers. Do this is like video game. When you put it on the hardest level when you first get MLB the show or something you're like, I'm just gonna I'm just going to like. I'm just going to adapt. You know? And you're like literally within your guys falling over swinging at the curb ball every single time. I gets. It's crazy, man. It's a spectacle to like I rushed to the TV to watch his pinch hit last night. Do you ensured have to have been Roman in a past life just fucking crucifying lab? I have our roles on this podcast and mine isn't to take you behind the scenes of the west fading gasps of a baseball player. Which is all which is great perspective. That's not me. Where's where's the cutoff? Because is there is there any chance that the Orioles actually play out the remaining three years of this deal? I can't see three years. But I think I think we brought it up when we talked about maybe not. But the thing that makes this so unique is that in a normal situation. He would probably be blocking somebody. But and in this situation, he's really not blocking anybody because half the team is like fake anyway. Right. But I mean, there's gotta be somebody. Maybe anybody. I mean, literally you fuck. Hey, you'll let them get hot for two weeks. The Yankees are out the division three. They're like fucking fall bird. Take a seat loop voiced seat. God come on over Chris Davis. Just took a few into right field for us. Let's see what we got. Paul third. Paul bird was that fucking herky-jerky pitcher for the Indians. Oh, yeah. What was his name Greg bird, Greg bird saved call bird? I mean, he was he has like. Yeah. He got he got through on pure guile straight out of a time machine that guy Greg bird. Yeah. I love me, some seek buy tickets can be complicated and confusing. But there is a simpler way to buy with seek seek as the smartest. Easiest way to get tickets for every type of live event, whether you're catching your favorite musician on tour shopping for the perfect gift or searching for a last minute deal to see your favorite team. Seek helps you find the best seats at the best prices fully guaranteed. Nothing beats being there in person for the biggest plays of the year and sequel get you closer to the action for a great value. I have the Seekie Kappa my phone, and it's by far the easiest way that I've found to shop for tickets, I can be anywhere in with just a few taps. I can instantly find seats. 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One o'clock game to which is super appealing dress love that level day game action. Yes. What are we got us? Call him pepper. We got a little pepper. We got some things to cover and this sucks. This fucking blows. I can give you some positivity on this. But let's just. Let's let's cut deep. Let's cut with a knife. Pledge of our boy, light cleven, you're out. Six to eight weeks jeered before he even sniffs Abass ball, the this hurts man this hurts big time. Baseball wise, this hurts because in a division that I think we all still believe. Is the Cleveland Indians to win. This puts this put some pressure now on the remaining members of the rotation and the bullpen. You don't have a guy who go get you. Go get your two hundred anymore. And I think that's I think that's a problem. I think that's a big problem considering what considering what he's meant for this for this club over the past couple of years. I think it's a big deal is big deal, especially with the start that kluber has had to to begin the year. This is I mean clever was my guy. I wanna what was it. My my bowl prediction for the you're so the. No at Bowers my sei-yung pick. But I said for club that he was gonna finish top ten this year. So that this obviously because they're when you say this is fairly significant and Terry Francona is not a manager. That's gonna say things to cause panic when you start talking fairly significant than. Yeah. That's that's probably bad news. I also see this as an opportunity for Shane Bieber to sort of step up and and be a guy. That's like all right. Well, hey, I can do this to you know, in of all the guys that they had with two hundred strikeouts. Last year. We had him on the podcast in the in the in the sample that he had for the twenty eighteen season you extrapolate that over a full season. And he's just as capable being two hundred strike oh pitcher as well. So I guess the way that I'm looking at this right now, and I'm sure Jay will provide more perspective. But the way that I'm looking at it now is yes, it's a huge blow. But no, there's not really a threat to the Indians ale. Central crown? So if there's any team with first place aspirations that can actually absorb a blow like this and keep chugging along and hopefully get a guide back for for the postseason. It's the Cleveland Indians. I mean, there's there are a lot of divisions in baseball where you have to three teams some even four teams that are like, I don't know. Anyone of these teams can win the division. You look at the AL central. It's still the the Cleveland Indians division to lose. It doesn't make it harder for them. Absolutely. But it's not it's not a situation where this this somehow tanks their season or. Catapults someone else pass them. No, I don't think it catapults someone passed them. And I don't think tanks the season. But I do think it's legitimately very serious problem for them. Like, I think you could make an argument that like Dallas or one of you guys alluded to like, you know, Corey kluber Corey kluber may be the third best pitcher in this rotation. Now, like, I don't think the stuff we saw from cleanser. And like it was only two starts, but it was twelve innings and twenty two strikeouts. You know, his swinging straight rate was way up his leg. Ability to miss bats. Or results on missing bats in the strike zone. Was way up. He had been one of the five best pitchers in baseball through his first two starts as has Trevor Bauer. Really? And like I'm just not convinced that this team has currently constructed is really that much better than the twins. And I don't really think the twins are that great either. But the Indians rotation will be fine. I think without cleanser because as you alluded to they have like. Essentially four to five like really high end starting pitchers even when clubs not there, but the offenses legitimately bad right now. And it's so it's bad that I'm I'm concerned that losing Clemenger for six to eight weeks at a minimum will put a serious cramp on their ability to win the division. Like, if you look team why ball games, those are tight ballgames that he's pitching in that this club could be winning that they're going to now have no doubt. And it's not like they invested in the bullpen during the offseason. Basically, let people go and the offense is ranked as the second worst offense in baseball entering entering Thursday better than only the Rockies, and that's probably debatable. One eighty six to seventy two three eleven from the entire offense. Jose Ramirez has been terrible. We all know, he's a very good. Great baseball player. But. Like, he's the only Carlos Santanas, basically, the only guy performing up to expectations or exceeding expectations. And if you look what are the expectations for like six of those nine people, they couldn't they couldn't be lower this. It's just not that good of a team. Buyers are not contributing and you got excited about Hanley. And I mean Hanley's thought that. That was a corrobos excited. I was just saying I'm interested to see what he had left in the tank nothing. Exactly. And he also this about clovinger to you think about Clayton Kershaw the back issues about this mechanics. Thing about cliff pretty herky-jerky is he not. Pretty herky-jerky for I wonder if there is anything to smoothing some of that out that might take some strain off of the shoulder off the Terry's major. So and remember just little medical little little medical lesson. Here that muscle attach is like I believe to the back of the. Glenn humor will head which is your humorous. It doesn't attached to the capsule, which is where a lot of other shit is attached to. So if he were to have torn this you could be looking at capsule. That's that's bad news. So hopefully, this is a matter of hey, you know, what it's clean tear, it can repair get some that scar tissue in there to act as glue as well. And then he's often running at the end of this thing. Hopefully, hopefully. Yeah. Not great. Great. Hey, jared. Yes. Dallas the cups and the pirates been playing baseball they share have. But the other night guy on the mound for the cubs. The other days. Felt a little. A little bite. Little will got him shawny Leiceste DL Hammy. Did he say that this was because the double that he liked out the other day? I didn't I didn't catch win to that. I would imagine that that didn't help if that were right. I'd say that sounds like an excuse lesser, not a big excuse guy. I don't think it's an excuse. How did you injure yourself guy? Fucking and had a little base knocked to Bagger. He out imagined that that had to been the reason why he pulled his Hammy. Well, whatever the case Lester down. No immediate need to panic here. Right through the cubs. Disagree. With the with the injury. No, no, trust me. Trust me, Jerry because I'm gonna get into remember how I was kind of chastised and talk shit to about picking the pirates rotation. We already talked about that last podcast. Oh, gloating all over again. Do what did you you thought that was going to die? You thought that was going to go away thought? We'd let it breathe like two starts. No, no good starts. We're not. We're not gonna we're not going to let it breathe I guess towards bios was pretty good. So let's are down. That's not good for the cubs. What we're talk about this with the cubs. They do have some op days coming and remember. Joan Lister said they've got off days. Taken that away from him said, I don't feel like this is going to bother me making my next start. Joe madness. He's going to Lester unless he's gonna show up with no leg probably gonna be tough to keep him out of the lineup. So the bright spot here is should they need more time for John Lester, they've got off days on the eighteenth. And the twenty second of this month, April he's due to come off. I believe on the nineteenth, but they won't need a fifth starter for awhile. So that could give them the cushion and the need to see him all the way back or nurse him all the way back and not have to tap that source early. If that's the case they've also deal Doppler radar says there could be some inclement weather around that time, which means snow days. That ham. He's got a little more time to get better. Rob a little more time to you better. Tyler chat was gonna take a spot. Make you start this weekend. They got Tim Collins from three to bolster the bullpen. And that's about that's about it. That's about it might gunnery. Actually, I believe is also soon to be activated. He throws a bullpen today. Dealing with the latte issue or whatever. So if that goes, well, he'll be back in the pin. He'll be back to helper. He could he could also start. But. Today's date the overall RA for Pittsburgh's pitchers to nine three top five in whip seventh in walks per nine their starters for runs allowed per game. The cubs seven point one, oh that's last in baseball. Jared if you were looking for any kind of comparison on where the rotation I picked in and the rotation you out remember picking the cubs now is me we establish this have you out. Jerk on the door restraints, your it was on the Darby these now, you're just like combining arguments move exactly moving into this. Just. Assistant this isn't playing this isn't playing with sticks in the mud. This pepper Yankee shutdown Luis Severino for six weeks allies, all about shoulders and things in the back of that nature. Are you concerned very concerned very concerned. This isn't the rotator cuff inflammation, folks. This is the lat this is totally different completely different. What did you rather be a Latin than a rotator cuff? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. But completely different. Like, I know to dudes who have torn their latte off of their back like detached their Latin muscle. Never the same took took like six months. I think to get back six or seven months be we's one of those dudes X where year he do that. Not good. Like, honestly, his I believe. His rookie year. Like, he tore it. He said I wanna say like the second pitch or something like that. And it has with the fucking toward LAX's. He was like I got called up to the big leagues not coming out. What a psychopath that doesn't surprise me in the least bit. But I mean, like if you were if you're looking at the Yankees right now all the injuries that they do have. Would you say that Luis Severino is the one guy that they need to get back healthy the sue the soonest? I would. I want to say, yes. Because. They need help. And I mean, it has to be you. You look around the dime. It's like you don't need ellsbury. You don't need like DVD's is a big one and do bar is the only one of what they have. He he's the only right handed frontline starter that they have right? Yeah. Like CC like you can you can get by without CC. But yeah, Severino. Is that one guy where he's not replaceable on that roster out of all the Garin Hicks? Very good center fielder that defensive metrics love Aaron Hicks. But you know, they can they can get by without him. But it's it's Luis Severino. The guy that sort of sets the tone for that rotation that they've they've lacked that big time. I mean, at this point the axon at this point, you you if you're a Yankee fan, you basically have to say mentally like I'll see you sometime after the all star break. Hopefully, right. Like, yes. Again, folks, six to eight weeks before you're even touching -able before you're even touching the ball. Then you have to execute a throwing program that's going to be a week it sixty feet then out to ninety feet than out to one hundred twenty feet, and then beyond that long toss. And then you're gonna come in. You're going to do some flat ground work, and then maybe off the mound a couple of times. And then a sim game or life BP. And then we'll get you out on a rehab start. Maybe make two of those see how you balance back like it's fucking lengthy link. The this is a long road, man. It is a long road, and it can be arduous, and you hope it is one that has a finish line. If you're the. He's what what place. Do you think the Yankees will be in when Severino returns? Could be. I mean, I'm going to say this year. It could be third place. Yeah. It could be third place. Yeah. Yeah. And and the Red Sox could be looking at the. Yeah. Well, that's just not. That's just not know, you think you think Orioles Bluejays are going to be in second place. At least in the second half grind. I'm going to grind that call from you into dust on the eighteen consecutive podcast. I'm going I made a mental note of what you just said. And you bet your ass. I'm gonna be tweeting that out in the second half of the season. When when the Orioles and the Blue Jays are sixty games back of the Tampa Bay rays say it's a historically hord start for the Red Sox. So we teased this earlier CC's slated to return Saturday. Yes. Richard Saturday, which is a big pick me up. I seen people being like, you know, the the eggs are disadvantage because they have a sei-yung award winner on the deal that was over. King decade ago. Who's saying that I've seen Yankee fans list though, like how many times out of all the players on the I l like we got twenty two all stars X amount of silver slugger to rookie of the year runner ups. And we got like the fuck and we got a Cy Young award winner on the aisle. It's dude fan that is the word dopey that fan. Don't don't be don't be the inventory fan. To rookie of the I two rookie of the year runner says like who wasn't at the colts who raise that like runner-up banner or something like that. Oh in the NFL. That's sad. Don't list rookie of the year runner up. So take inventory, just don't do the. No, that's silly. I'll give you guys in in-person scouting assessment of cici's return on Saturday. And then we can break it down. Sure that'll be super super what a tease that'll increase downloads for sure. Well extension season rolled on continues to roll on. Sure does. Yeah. Matt carpenter Matt carpenter. How old is he the only go to your extension because they ripped up an option or I think. Yeah. Maybe thirty five he is thirty three years old. So it's two years thirty nine and he had an option year for next year. So that rips up the option year, then they get an extra year. Yeah. So he's it's through his age thirty five season, which feels still safe this. If move the biggest part the biggest thing that this does for the cardinals is keeps that infield together. Yeah. Continuity. Yeah. That's a big deal. That's a big deal. You'll have them all together wall. Waltz us to be Wong. Goldie diong. You'll have them all together. That's a that's a big deal that matters to us deal. And the reason that matters once one time in thirty fucking years one time in the last thirty years of the cardinals been able to field the same for infielders on consecutive opening days. One time in thirty years. So that means a lot to a a fan base who knowingly wraps their arms around their players and loves the shit out of them. They've got they've got guys that they can pinzel in for the foreseeable future that matters and look back arbiter career eight forty five career three seventy six OB p. Thirty doubles thirty plus doubles each year since twenty thirteen. They knew they're getting. A team guy teen guy play third play first place. Second plenty fuck where you need me to play. Cardinals of locked up Goldschmidt, carpenter Michaels and Jose Martinez to long-term deals over the last couple of months. They see their future. I didn't realize that carpenter was as old as he was. But he was kind of a late bloomer. Yeah. That's okay. Nothing wrong with being a late bloomer? I really, no. I'm just saying he he didn't really establish himself as a fulltime majorly player until he was twenty seven years old, right? Yeah. I think I graduated college when I was like twenty five well you've you've been around legion tournament. Yeah. Palace actually got to meet one of my former teammates out in Oakland. Yeah. The opportunity to call them both shit bags. Yeah. Robbing America's us now. Just just getting ready. Just getting ready for a little fall. Big deal. What doors? No thank God. But Norris's back in baseball. Yeah. Come on. Jay. About sixty seven punches and fifty seven and two thirds innings last year. It's good. You're you're not. You're not okay with that three point one nine k to walk. Come on. That's a second best Mark of his career. Yeah. Like the stuff the stuff still plays. You know? Yeah. Sure. Yes. Great clubhouse leader to no doubt. So he's so he's not your leader. So he's not inviting you to dinner, you know, well, over maybe meat, maybe me dinner, but people born outside of this country. Maybe not I mean, that's that's neither neither I don't know. If that's for us to what was what was the story with him again. You just had inflammatory quotes. I mean, it's clear that he makes the nationals bullpen better his veteran approach may or may not rub. Some of the newer guys in the game the wrong way. Yeah. The nationals bullpen has actually been a fucking. It was a note when Trevor Rosenthal recorded an out last night. Yeah. Yeah. I got I got like, yeah. I got like a notification on my phone Trevor Rosenthal records is I I would have twenty nineteen as like oh shit. What was he out on the gun? I didn't see it. I wasn't watching live. Yeah. Just saw the notification. But yeah, I mean Craig kimbrel. Still just kind of sitting there NATs, and there, you know, I guess you're less than two months away from not having to forfeit a draft pick. But if your bullpen really is that fucking bad. I don't know maybe a worthwhile investment while the Phillies Braves and Mets all sit above you in in standings right now. So I don't know why I tell you what's crazy is like this is something to think about the teams that have those. Teams that have those visions of a chemical or of a kimbrel the draft pick that they kit if they do not sign one of those guys that individual I think moving forward is going to have a magnifying glass on them of sorts interesting. When actual thing to note on bud Norris. Dow's kind of referring to like career best or second best of his career. The big change for him has been the jump in strikeout rate. You know since his conversion to the bullpen and a lot of that has to do with the huge increase in the use of cutter basically with the start of the twenty seventeen season. So you know, if he's a legitimately different pitcher than he was when he was kind of like a number five number six starter. Then you could really help. You know, what I was thinking actually when you mentioned kaikal like maybe maybe that'll bring the Indians into the fuck. No. There's just like that was that was gonna be bad. It's my thought at the end of our podcast was hey, I could see kaikal you never know. Grow up on. Peter. It's it's crazy. Like you have these teams like the nationals and the brewers could very much so use a guy like Craig kimbrel. And now the ins could use Dallas Heikal, neither touch them. Did you guys you guys hear that j his voice, you wanna know what that was a front office just beating the fuck out of j just ripping his get over ripping his fucking soul out shitting on it that that right? There is what you just gotta taste of. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking Peter paying. Yeah. Wire talent compete in the Glades. We are over here. Just trying to live in reality. Dallas. I feel so bad for Dallas. I used to feel bad. I know I feel bad for j I used to feel bad for Dallas. Because I remember when he was like talking about not being able to afford Edwin Jackson. Yeah. Right. Bitches just in twenty nineteen in twenty nineteen not being able to afford Edvin Jackson is like, yeah. That's literally if someone came out to me it was like, I don't have the money to afford one tater tot. Big dot guy. You mean to tell because I mean, that's great. Did you bring that up? Yeah. Because guess who's nearing that minor league deal at think it, isn't it already done deal? Again, corrobos. I'm not a news breaker. I don't wanna be in official. Not liberty say, yeah, she'll do break everyone's favorite reporter that has all the news. But won't tell us is Dallas brain, it's right next right next to White Sox. Dave. I mean, only Dallas news actually accurate when it does come up here. This this is what all do all do you guys this favor the ones who? Can you read that? Don't read it out loud. He go. All right. Okay. Is that enough? Yeah. Sure. So let's say the as are able to consummate this relationship with Edwin Jackson, bring him back on the minor league deal. I can tell you just from watching him work with the younger kids in the rotation and work with younger guys in that clubhouse. I know Matt Chapman is a guy who gravitated towards e Jackson just sort of enjoyed his energy and took note of that. And how to kind of be of clubhouse guy. Edwin Jackson will be welcomed. Back caution yourself because again, it's Edwin Jackson year four hundred and twenty in the big leagues. The so like. Like what you get is what you get. But he is a dude who he's kept himself in shape. He wants to compete and frankly last year's performance. What what was the are like a three great thirty three. In what seventeen or eighteen starts? All right. Seventeen starts close enough. I paid I paid close attention to Jackson. I mean there were times where he was offensively wild. Sure. Now, he threw the dog shit out of that cutter. He threw the piss out of that cutter and more times than not folks more times than not the as a chance to win the ballgame. When Jax was either on the mound or coming off. Yeah. I mean, I just I saw that news come across. And I was like, wow. Dallas just gets his guy as happy for you. If you went anywhere, but the as I wouldn't cared at all. But the fact that, you know, you're you're getting your land in the big one. He's coming home. He's coming. I hope I hope before his his first start at the Cali that they have P Diddy come out and perform that. I'm coming home song. Kill me. Yeah. Just I walked pyro. I want ditty. And then gimme each Jack in his first start of the twenty nineteen season for the ultra trying to get up. Trying to get Earl e Foti wanna out there live, we forty behind home plate, man. Corrobos? We'd be these type of moves. It just make baseball better is just like who. Did you have? Jay, did you see fucking Brett Anderson tweet me the other day? I did actually. Yes. I mean that that's the type of stuff made it, dude. That's that was tough that was to see. To see if you haven't yet subscribed to the starting nine YouTube channel go do that we put out a new vlag every Monday. And when I was in Oakland. I'm getting chirped by book there before the game. Mnaya was also getting in on the fun. And then. Brett Anderson goes out and shoves it up the Red Sox asked the day after my birthday. 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They will lock you the buck into some tacos, my friend like crazy flavor. Tacos too. Not that is what like really hooked me the tacos Taco's beer for the tacos who. Who J are you guys ready to play deal or no deal? Yeah. I like this. All right. Let's go right. Here's the idea brand new segment. Small sample sizes early in the season. Some people off to some remarkably good or remarkably bad starts. I'm going to offer Dallas Jared an end of season line for these players. And they're going to tell me whether based on these hot or cold starts. They're gonna take these deals. All right. We're going to start with maybe the guy who's been the best player in baseball. Certainly the best in the NL early on Cody Bellinger, he put his name up. There is terms of hot starts with the likes of Willie Mays. I'm going to offer currently for context. Cody Bellinger is hitting four twenty six with seven homers nineteen RBI and opiates approaching fourteen hundred would you take at the end of this season. Cody Bellinger, ends the year. Forty homers and nine fifty oh PS. Yep. I'm taking it. It's his platform year right before or betray Shen. You give me forty long balls that Bessis career marked by one nine fifty s fairly sexual you give me that. And I'm getting breaded up chicken, Ted as an arbitration next year book deal. Jay, I'm not taking it. Well, I'm not taking it. But not by a whole lot. Like, I can see him probably hitting like thirty four homers like a nine three. Oh PS. He's going to be in the neighborhood. But you start talking forty bombs nine fifty nine talking like a top three and eleven VP candidate. And I just think that is not gonna end up in that territory, but he'll he'll be close. This is about you taking the deal or not taking the deal not agreeing with where he's going to end up at the end of the year. So you're have you ever seen dealer? No have you ever seen? Let's make a deal. Will you show up in an asshole bunny rabbit costume? And if you don't have the paper clip in your purse, you're not getting the fucking price crops. So you're either taking the forty Jackson nine fifty or you're holding out for more. What are you doing holding out for more? Yeah. So so in in this format, you would take the deal. Yeah. That's why I took the deal. Like, I said those numbers sound great forty Jack's nine fifty s platform, you're heading into arbitration give me that production. I'm taking that deal. Jay is only offering that deal or is offering you the opportunity to look like an asshole at the end of the season when Cody Bellinger hits thirty four bombs and is nine oh three. Oh, PS and you're out in the cold. So so what are you doing? I'm taking the deal. Not right. The. Next next, Mike. Welcome aboard. Next is Mike trout the games best player. He leads baseball in Opie. He leads it an on base percentage, which is a crisp five ninety two through twelve games. Leads it in walks. Five homers. He's having another great season. He's already been worth one point eight wins above replacement per baseball reference. Okay. His career his career-best. Mark is ten point five twice. Would you? Take an offer of ten point six four. Gerardo? Let you go. First. That'd be his career high. Yup. By fractional. Yep. Yeah. I am taking that deal. I am taking that hill. They get they get good deal. Jerry understands how to play this game. The only the only time I've even heard of dealer. No deal was that's clay Buchholz wife was a suitcase model on that show. As was the Megan Margaret prince duchess, or whatever the hell, they call those people and. Yeah. I think Howie Mandel has been in the barstool office has not. Yeah. He has he's a super weirdo. He like germaphobe can't touch them. Dallas you taking it. So I can I wanted to go one or two ways here. No, I'm not bucking taken it because I think I think we're going to see like, I think we're gonna see a like a ten eight. So I'm holding out for more this. I am holding out for more for my truck. I am not taking this deal. Jay, not taking this deal at all. I think. Yeah. Like, I do because I was looking at my God. You're I went through an entire bottle. Cocoa butter last night. Looking over bonzes baseball. Trout's baseball reference page because I was trying to just kind of get a feel for win. Trout was going to take off and never looked back sort of if you kind of get give it I mean like because berry headed career, and then he became very Balans, the pirates gold glove defender base. Stealer like becoming the best player in baseball. And then there was like, a guess a low, and then the Newbury emerged out of that out of that catoon and had his second half of career was just fucking ridiculous all over again. And I wanted to see when trout's like, I guess I career was going to win it started or whatever. But but yeah, it's it's I'm waiting for more spin zone. You have to take it because it's his career fucking best. You don't turn down the best player could possibly do. That's why you take that deal is because you cannot feasibly an intelligently turned down the best player could possibly perform what it's Mike trout, and he does better than you'll ever think. You'll fucking do. Let's we can move off of some of the most extreme example, so far Yoan Moncada. You know, obviously, a big part of the White Sox future. So far this season. Three nineteen batting average nine seventy seven P S. His strikeouts are down as a percentage of plate appearances last year. He had a seven fourteen Opie. Would you take an eight twenty five and a twenty five percent strikeout rate at the end of this year? Give me all of that. I'm taking that deal. I am absolutely taking that deal. I I know some of the some of the staff members over there on the White Sox, and they're extremely high on him. But I think they also recognize knowledge one of the numbers you're talking about here. Some swing and miss. I'm taking that deal. Jared. No fucking deal. Wow. No, you're aiming. You're aiming higher. Yeah. I think I think he's capable of eight seventy opium, right? Again. That's every time. He gets a hit from the right side. Now White Sox fans, but the guy he can't hit. He's still sucks right in enter like one hit does not change the fact that he's sucks as right in hitter. So fucking tweet me every single time. He gets a hit from the right side. He would be significantly better. If you just abandoned hitting right handed. That's not just my opinion that is the opinion of many. But yeah, I think he's capable of more. Chris davis. We talked about it earlier. He's got fifty straight at bats without a hip. It's very sad. Would you take the hitless streak snapping at sixty? So it's ten more ballots. Yep. And. It's already the worst for position player. Yeah. I gotta take that deal because if it's any longer than ten more fucking games at bats. It's like God. Damn what point do you just quit in the middle? I could bowling seasons in the middle of games. Just like fuck it. I can't I can't. I don't have a good ball. I'm just going home. And putting my autumn going on Jared wanted to he wanted to quit bowling one bowl into it on his birthday. But I'm in judgment anyways. This. This can't go longer than ten more bets. Jay it. Honestly can't. And if it does I will genuinely be sad. It will ruin my day, Dallas. I mean. Yeah. I want to take the deal because I don't wanna see this happen. I don't want to come on. I don't wanna see that it buck and hurts my heart, man. It does feel the dudes pain. I think you have to take the deal because history won't remember much of a difference between fifty and sixty. But history would remember a difference between fifty and like a buck twenty-five. Let's let's be real we are mall praying that he gets his knock on his sixty ninth Abe. All right. Let's let's get into a pair of pitchers here. Maybe. I mean, it's quite possible that he's the best pitcher on the Indians. He was a borderline Cy Young candidate last year. He has taken it to what seems like another level this year. Maybe not we'll see Trevor Bauer. Last year two point two one a Yara one hundred seventy five innings in two hundred twenty one strikeouts. I'm offering you two hundred innings a two point two one and two hundred fifty strikeouts. Are you is that enough of a leap for you guys to sign up? I'm interested in taking the deal just for the innings alone. Yeah. It's basically the same quality of performance just over twenty five more innings. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna take that deal. I think if he does end up with two hundred innings, I think the era has a chance to be even lower and the strike outs chance to be higher. But I'm gonna take the deal. Just because I wanna see it two hundred ending season from I'm basically taking the health versus the performance, and that's kind of where I was going with as well, I'm taking that deal purely because I think right off the top of my head. That's four more starts. From from him and the domination factor. The punch outs. Gimme that our last one. And this one gets a little personal. Chris sale. Oh, okay. Obviously last year great year borderline psychic as it usually is two point one one Yarra over one hundred fifty eight innings. He's off to a rough start this year. Thirteen runs in thirteen innings pitched with only eight strikeouts. Jared knowing what your expectations are for both him and the Red Sox. Would you take an end of season regular season line from Chris sale of one hundred fifty innings and three five? Which would obviously be his worst season. Basically since he became a starting pitcher. And. This is just regular season. Yup. I'm not necessarily guaranteeing. You is there for the playoffs. But that would be his end of season line. Can I interest you hundred fifty innings hundred and fifty innings three five year roughly is available as he was last year during the regular season but of noticeably lower quality overall. But not dead not said his fifth seven two six right now. So remember there's a good chance that given given two weeks. I could be featuring the same kind of fast Balkars. Gonna have to take that deal. Shake. Civil. Take it. But I got I gotta take it. Now, you hate to see it you really do. Yeah. Man. You gotta take that deal at this one. You gotta take that deal because I'm just not sure how the body responds moving forward. I'm not and and. Look, it's been the shoulder. Couple of different times last year. And we talked about it Alex did his level. Best trying to find breeding spots for sale the average velocity right now, and it is super early because it could be another month where his body and his arm really starts to take off and build. And now he feels like Chris sale that very well could be around the corner. But as we sit right now is average fastball is ninety one point two miles an hour. That is I believe three to four miles an hour slower than his typical average fastball. We talked about the zero swing and misses and back toback starts on the fastball. I just if this is what I'm looking at right now. And those numbers are what I could look forward to based on what I'm looking at right now. Then then. Yeah, I think I have to kind of fly in that safe zone and take take what you've offered. Those fun little game. Maybe we'll revisit another batch next Thursday. Deal or no deal. Was that the only one we didn't have one more than we have Josh Hader on here. They. Yeah. Eighty one and a third innings two point four three E R A on one hundred and forty three strikeouts. Those are his two thousand eighteen numbers. He has started off this season. Even better. Would you take an overall repeat of last year? Holding out. Fuck your suitcase could beat it guy. One. No part of that. And here's why because is wing rate is up almost ten percent to thirty nine percent from thirty percent. His e swing rate. Seventy nine percent. That's a career high. Z contact rate. Fifty three percent that's a career low. Contact rate overall forty nine percent that is a career low and fifty eight percent of the pitches that he is throwing our first strikes. He is filling up the zone they are swinging more than they have and they are making less contact than they ever have. I'm holding out because haters going to give me more, and you could drink the fuck and hater eight all you want corrobos doing better. Yeah. No. He is. I kinda just I'm reluctant to. Not take the deal because I think. I mean guy that pitches multiple innings. It's like, yeah. It looks good now. But eventually that. It's great that he can pitch multiple innings like that. But eventually that does catch up to a guy he is young enough. But there's there's wear and tear there. There's going to be wear and tear there. So I'm gonna take the deal repeat last year. Give me that if I can guarantee that some. Yep. Lock you out. How about this? Thirty three starts excuse me. Thirty three outings of four outs or more for Josh shooter. That's a lot. That's a lot wrong. That's strong. That is. What's at the barstool store? What's that the barstool store whole? I'm glad yes. Because baseball season is finally here and barstool sports. Once again has a ridiculous selection of merch of teas long. Sleaze. Hoodies hats of your favorite teams. Don't miss our newly launched starting nine pocket T and T's for all your favorite teams. Go to stored the barstool sports dot com. Go to the baseball collection. Get your merch while supplies last J would've baby. We got fucking Twitter questions from the grounds crew. You know, we do hell. Yeah. Question for the podcast. Who is the most surprising World Series winner in the last twenty years twenty years. Wow. Let's see. Marlins which time three Marlins. Oh, three. Yeah. Of the last twenty years that goes to answer back and ninety nine I was gonna say, yeah. Ofri Marlins or what about the old one diamond said Randy Johnson? What about the fuck in two thousand two angels over that that that giants team? Yeah. That was heartbreaking. But they had they had a fucking squad ninety nine with those. I mean the manner in which they came back to win get interpret this question any number. This is a fucking easy question. I know what my answer is. It's no it's that fucking dumbly as hard nose team won like eighty three games two thousand six cardinals one eighty. They went eighty three seventy eight then won the World Series. Yeah. Well, they did have a lot injuries during the year. And then everyone sort of came back at the end. So the record wasn't exactly indicative of talent that they had perhaps. But let me read you if you numbers. Okay. The reason I took the Marlins is because the Marlins no, I think that's very viable answer. Two of the guys that made a huge impact. We're not even there to begin the season. Yes. Willis and McGill Cabrera showed up from bucking AA and mckeon, right? Yeah. Jack McCain was fucking ninety seven thousand years old. And showed up halfway though is my point. Right. Didn't. Yeah. He came in later, and they also to the point about the Marlins. They also beat a Yankees team that not not that we haven't seen this. It doesn't times. But the Yankees won ten more regular season games. They were one hundred one win team of Marlins won ninety one games at your. Two thousand six cardinals. There were. Alber pools forty nine homers one hundred and thirty seven RBI three thirty one batting average in a one point one zero to Opie that you're Jesus. There. Other key players on that team. Scott Rolen was still a very good player at that time. He was thirty one years old had an eight eighty seven that you're Jim Edmonds was on the back half of certainly in the final years of his career. Thirty six years old but managed an eight twenty two with nineteen pops and four hundred plate appearances for them pitching staff. Chris carpenter. Due to one hundred twenty one innings pitched three oh nine the rest of the rotation though. I mean, this is what was so crazy Jason Marquis. Jeff supine. What was left of Mark moulder? Anthony race and Jeff Weaver. I mean, all of those guys the lowest ERA of that group was super at four one two during the regular season. It's just it just wasn't that. Good of a team bullpen wasn't that great Ueno was still in the bullpen that you're. That was still in the bullpen through the last fucking pitch. Or that was that was different twenty thirteen. But. Yeah. They beat the Tigers. Another tigers. Heartbreak sad. That sixteen damned that was that was also the Carlos BELTRAN hook year. Wasn't in the NFC s. Or Beena on the Florida Marlins that you're three think he was let's take a look let's take a look at that team. Let's run through memory lane on that. Is that right? But yes, he was. Yes. He was he had six saves for them that year through thirty eight and a third innings. He wasn't like chopping people up lighten him on fire yet was he who the hell knows that was. The the Marlins rotation that you're pa- von. Oh, penny. Mark Redman Dontrelle and Josh Beckett. Yeah. And you know, you know, who's featuring a little Pouvaana two point, oh is fucking evolved e. Look like come on, take two seconds. You mean to tell me that of all the Carl von oh don't live like they fell out of the same tree. Pouvons not Chuck in one. Oh to sir. Was was blowing cheese one zero two to. No. Yeah. But I'm talking about how they physically look right now. Yeah. Okay. Got the shoulders. Yeah. Interesting lineup from them wanting Carnasciali one peer Todd Hollandsworth was the regular outfield with Miguel Cabrera was on the team Mike Lowell Alex Gonzales, Luis Castillo directly and Pudge Rodriguez. What about how was it like a forty seven game hitting streak that Louise steelhead at one point in time. Yes, I'm crazy like that. Yeah. I don't know he hit three fourteen that year. I don't remember. But all right. Thirty five games thirty five. Same thing. What are Jared and everyone's thoughts on passan's article in the future? The Red Sox. Ooh. I don't subject myself to the negativity of the media. Oh, okay. If I'm reading that article, just call I I'm going to call them right now and be like, can you? I didn't read your article can you sum it up for me. I'm gonna do the hold on on say, call call Jeff. Yeah. Tell you what it sounds like it sounds like somebody was playing in the show and took off. Options. Jeff. We're going to get him. Jeff for ESPN. Path. Tough break. Callback. Just seventy was like. Yep. Fucking. That's right trade decline off force trades on salary cap off. And that's what the Red Sox. Did. They're like fuck it. Yeah. We will. We will pay all of you. Whatever you want. We will give you whatever you want for whoever you want. We just want the word. We just want the rain and listen like they got the ring. But like it would not be totally surprising. If a team that Dave Dombrowski like engineered, and like essentially required management to pay for was left like a little bit in in a tough spot for years down the line. Right. Like look at the Tigers. Well, because the Tigers, and that's that's the sensually what is happening here because you're talking about how much money are they? He's gone back. Hold on. Hey, jeff. So here's the deal. Right. We're recording starring nine right now. And we got a Twitter question where it said, what's your reaction to Jeff passan's calm on the Red Sox? And I said I haven't read it yet. So let's just call him to get the cliff notes version of it. So can you can you give us the Cliff's notes version of your call? Please. Version of my column is that the the Red Sox are innovative tickle in twenty twenty in that is as disastrous as start and as it's been for this year. The issues to me are even deeper over the next three or four years because they've got the Mookie contracts to deal with they've got JD potentially opting out. They've got the luxury tax threshold really becoming more burdensome, and they've got a pretty barren farm system. And when you combine all those things the only way to get out of that spend a bunch of money, and are they going to spend a bunch of money. And if they do that gonna put them in the same position the Yankees were in back in two thousand and early two thousand ten before they really committed to rebuilding from within sounds pretty bad. Jeff. It's bad when you have a championship in two thousand eighteen and other two thousand thirteen and other in two thousand seven and other in two thousand four right when you've won full rings and fifteen years, and there's no such thing as bad. That's true. Yeah. I mean, it's been worth the risk is been worth the reward. Oh percent percents. It's also what Dave Dombrowski does Dave Dombrowski filled up really incredible core and leaves the barren wasteland behind. Where would you say the Red Sox farm system ranks right now? Because is it fair to say that they're dead last? No, I think that's I think that's wrong. I think they're about of. Five. Okay. I've seen prospect rankings were there literally thirtieth. Yeah. I don't think I don't think they're dead last. But there let's his way like their neighbors with dead last. Got back cleanup in Pawtucket. It's it's it's not an ideal situation. Jeff, I appreciate your perspective. It doesn't make me feel that great to be honest with you. But I mean, if the solution is to spend money. Let me go though here question wrong. No, no. I don't think it's war just facing reality where the call drops I'm trying to enjoy the ring ceremony. And I got a bitch slap in the face of reality of the situation looks like after that. So at least give me give me like a twenty four hour buffer to enjoy my ring ceremony. And then be like, hey this. This could also this could also be very bad. You poor baby. Maybe had so much taken away him over the last fifteen years. Fucking ring chair. Really give you twenty four hours a massive for twenty four hours. That's all. Take your ring ceremony shove it. Oh god. Jeff. Thank you so much. This is actually your second appearance on the show. On the show, by the way, my love on the show. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. We've had four letter network people on before. Typically speaking, we are supposed to get permission. But I got I got guerrilla ambushed by rob is your so this Harto if then if you're listening to this. None of this free plant. Home from the stadium right now and cherry call that. I wanted to make sure gotta call my friend back. I mean Bank to find all people. He will he will sign off on this with flying colors. He is he's a great advocate of the program print of the podcast. All right. We're good to go that. Okay. Perfect. Thank you. Jeff. Voice. All right. So there's Jeff passan what a funny way to end the. Is the he's he's great. He's he's the woes of major league baseball. Yeah. Which is basically like he the second that he'd left Yahoo. He just started dropping bombs left and right be like bam. Bam. Bam. Breaking news left of love the guy. But there you go. There's there's a little perspective on what Red Sox fans have to look forward to which I can choose to ignore. And I will funnel thoughts. Final thoughts. Wow. What are what are some? What are some weekend series are coming up? It's kind of a dumpy. I looked at it, man. It's not not great. It's listen. We don't want to get into the habit of previewing series. Just to preview them. It's it's not a sexy sleet of new meetings this weekend. No, listen. You can always find something interesting. But it's it's nothing like what we had at the first first half of the week. I'll ask Jay this. Astros are cardinals. Where's he going? Cardinals Astros Astros are Indians. Whereas you who kaikal? Astros. Jokes. Like, I'm not trying to be funny. There is going to the Indians. We we don't know what we don't know what the ask looks like right now, we don't know what the Indians are willing home. The ask is a minor league. Invite with the possibility of making one million dollars because that's probably the market in. Wait a second cargo Hanley Tyler clipper Kreis range because then. Yes. I've just say dude like referred team who I think can identify them as a favourite for that division. And you know, how much I like the twins knowledge that the twins are are probably just going to go away quietly. They have the opportunity to secure an arm who could help them resecure their position. Get the clear division manager. Stan I understand. It's not happening. I am going to push back against this notion that there are no series. They're really all that notable. The watch this weekend. Mets braves. Doesn't doesn't tickle your balls at all? All right who the arms, we got degrom Wheeler who Doron Wheeler matchup. Hold on. Hold on. It's it's Wheeler nukem, Vargas, Tehran and. I'm here for the Wheeler nukem. Yeah. And to Graham freed here for two grown three Sunday night baseball. Yeah. Yeah book. Yeah. Buck. Yeah. What about Astros Mariners that that could be interesting? I'm here for both of those teams kicking the shit out of each other. We got on Friday. We get an old fashioned weight off with Wade Miley in Wade LeBlanc will block. Yeah. This is this is just making my point for me, the rulers laid off those to Wade into brewers. Actually, I did about dodgers LCS rematch. Yeah. That's that'll be very interesting. So actually, I think now that we're on now that we're on the topic. I think the Friday matchup between those two teams is actually the most interesting. Corden Vernon's early o or ES. Yeah. That it. So yes, there's baseball the watch this weekend. With friends always baseball to watch baseball the watch this weekend. So get excited for those matchups or Orioles Red Sox Orioles Red Sox that good old fashioned battle for the basement. Well, it's good to have the Bobby Valentine era. Red Sox back. Yeah. I'm excited. So hopefully, be a real shame. If the Red Sox couldn't beat that fucking team. Then I haven't panicked. But you wanna talk panic. We'll we'll rendezvous next week and see what see what the deal is after that series. That's all I got. Good.

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Ep. 66: June 6th - The Devils Picks

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Ep. 66: June 6th - The Devils Picks

"The hawks owls. Here. I like that shit. I've seen to read tales in the last week. Like, stop what I'm doing and watch him and just like ginger life. We oh, big birds of prey guy. What do you do with them pictures on watch him? Oh, you fucking bird pitcher Taylor. Well, just when my phone if I see him perched on I'll show you after the show if you wanna see some now I do. Yeah, of course I do. What do they read tales? Yeah. One breed we ever ever spot. A don't be funny here. I'm talking competitor birds. I like this. These things are beautiful. Did you ever spot a an alka dress for rescuers down under? No. But the house are beautiful that I've seen. Every time. Good after to give. Everybody. Look at us coming off a winning evening. We are back here. Gourds real quick. Drew big birds of prey lovebirds. Does that affect your, your handicapping, say would like the eagles are going up against someone? Absolutely good question. Absolutely. So you are a Homer towards teams with birds of prey 'cause I'm watching the Philadelphia Eagles take on the Seattle Seahawks, which is another predator. It's tough for me because I don't want to see any of them lose. I'm a fan of the the species. Well, here's a question then if you are fan of the species, why did you not last night? Pick the ultimate bird of prey the raptor. Yeah. Well, just because are you one of those that aren't saying it's a bird? Yeah. A little bit Todd. Plus, I never they never. They never flew in my backyard, I wasn't around when they were around. So I can't you know, I covered them but yeah, I took an L there. I you know what I took? I took I took a quiet letter size fifteen right in the shorts. Because you believe he said it was going to be a blow. I did. Oury. There was a blowout. Yeah. Just other direction first half plus to try, I love Alan never, but I had hoped. They were down ten was like ninety go. And I'm like here they go. Well, I got sucked in. It was sixty nine sixty two in the in the third quarter. And I was like, here's a chance and then there is a turnover and then there was a three. Steph would have had to score seventy three less. Yeah. They're even to be. Like he got zero zero help book, peasants, what, what about have four nothing. And that was the thing I was counting on. Plus I thought Klay Thompson, honestly was gonna play. I'd say he's not going to be a self. But as I said, yesterday, I'm like, okay, we're getting sixteen out of Clayton we'll need that is still think it was worth risking further injury. When he could rest and come back with Durante percent with the rent. Did you did you take? Did you take your pick off the board when clay was announced out now? I mean, I was like here, they, we just gotta hope he gets fifty which I you know, and he did. But they weren't even close like Livingston only one for four and he got the star, thou boogie. I was scouting. I'm bogey. Yeah. I mean, there was no help and bogie played pretty well. Noga did play well I love that. He's your second best player in the court. It's not a guy sign dream on congrat- dome autumn line is Toronto has had no problem. They've had no problem getting wide open shots. They just weren't hitting Bockel. And then last night, they, it has never making everything. You know, even talked about that yesterday and Serge Ibaka. Look like I came lodge on at five blocks by the third quarter, something like that. Here's a question for you. If you guys had to name an MVP so far of the serious, not name Leonard off the wrapper. Let's say of the on the raptors glides the definite MVP right now. Yeah. At the mortgage Tonia. I mean who's your other candidate? I don't know. You're right. It's quite. Yeah. I mean they've had some good. I'm Larry had to head foul trouble. The first couple like he was left the floor. Four minutes to go to play the rest of the it's definitely coy. But after that, hell, I'd give it to Siaka. Played green great games. He'd only last game he, you know was not great for him. But other than that, he's a lock for most improved player of the year, if it goes seven, and they lose and Steph continues on this. Can you give it to the player on a losing team? No, he has done a lot of these been great a line. I don't know. But no. I don't think they would do that. But say saying he grabbed her first championship in twenty four years. It's all the I know what you're saying. Tony, but boil you know, hey, we have some fun now in front of us. I'm not trying to turn into a sports show Todd, but stinking it as rant and stinking Klay Thompson are coming back. Now they haven't been on the floor. He's gonna be hobbling, a little bit Durant's not going to be Durant. Or is he I that's why I don't know. I don't know. That's why I'm tempted to jump on the raptors right now. There's plus six again for game four AM Durant has played in over a month, right? What's, what's he going to be like an clay? What's he going to be like with bad history? I'm tempted to jump on the raptors again plus six right now before before any other news comes out because. I. Last night. It went from five and a half or whatever down to two when the claims happen which obviously didn't matter. But some to think about something to think about something to think about other games of for us last night, I had Colorado as my best bet they did not come through for me. It was three oh after five Gorms your best bet was going State Warriors taught at Toronto. I mean I don't understand why your best bets aren't WNBA every night because that was just another another easy so cover in the eighteen. It wasn't even close. I mean you're you're just on fire WNBA or in foia. Go Tampa Bay minus one and a half from Todd was an easy cover the twins. I five luckily win towards I five because they, they were winning. I five they lost the game. India Indians got him didn't they? Yeah. The needs God again to row. So that was last night. You guys wanna get into our a best bets for today. Let's do it. All right. I'm gonna start it off. Here's our records right now. I'm two one. Lucky? One corpses to talk out on the board last night, one and three for the week. Nice job Taty. Boy, do you wanna go with your do you wanna go first? Sure. Go ahead. Sucking, you have the honors best Basle badly my best bet for today, the Yankees run line on the road in Toronto. A very lopsided pitchy matchup here half of the eighties. He's five and three with a four point eight three IRA. He's a lefty in the Blue Jays are the worst team in the league hitting against lefties at home, since April first, they are starting Edwin Jackson, who is Owen three with a thirteen point two to e r a you get the run line, minus one twenty five ache. The money lines, minus one ninety fuck it. Let's go for value. I also jumped on that game not as my best bet. But I got him at minus one twenty online. So shopping, or your best price out there. Yankees also eighth best versus right hand pitching. You said Edmund Jackson, his last four starts is given up twenty six earned runs the season in four starts, Jay. Nothing nothing right home about, but the Toronto Toronto is terrible left. Pitching. So I'm also jumping on that Gorms. What is your best bet? Well, we we're going to stick to what we know, and that is the WNBA right off the baseball diamond tonight will be on the ice in a minute. But my best bet of the three games tonight, WNBA is I'm Wayne, a big one. Todd. You might like this. Okay. I've got the Minnesota lynx that are growling on one shoulder. And I've got Bill Laimbeer okay was barking on the. The head coach of the LA sparks, and they are on the road at the Connecticut sun. And of course, Tony, you know, this old drama, which go McKay now going from the Connecticut sun to LA sparks he's throwing back home being could be booed tonight. So with that being said, we got two picks I'm just going with one. I'm gonna take Sylvia falls in the Minnesota lynx to cover one and a half against Phoenix mercury. Okay. Don't forget to Rossi. Not even seeing the floor sniffing. Yeah. That's, that's a tough loss. That's tough loss for the mercury. So you're going Minnesota lynx modest on and a half is their lead. Is there a toe for the Los Angeles sparks? Yeah. There is actually, and I this is against what I'm doing. Because Tina go McKay is my lady if I have a favorite WNBA player that is her. But I'm going against her. I like the Connecticut sun to cover the five due at the casino tonight, said before it can go against against Connecticut in Connecticut. When Gino Auriemma coaching you don't go against it of my best bets of. The night and this alita right straight into the ice gorens. Okay. I'm going with the Boston. Bruins at home minus the one forty five. The series has been back and forth. I just don't see a reason. Why Boston well won't hold home serve here won't hold serve at Boston Char's out with a broken job. But I mean that big goofy motherfucker how much what's he play in twenty minutes, anyway? Oh, Tony don't say that his presence alone. Gets those energized around him. I don't care. I mean I charge this point he's fucking forty eight years old. Yeah. He's a big bodies along stick. He causes some troubles on the peak. And by the way, it was an open goal. It was like an open door when he left the icy other day, the defense was nowhere to be found. Remember that? All right. So I'm just saying broods are my best. Bet. Are you going the opposite way? It sounds like absolutely not. I am with. Tonight. This is a series that has going seven-game Saint Louis going to get the home winning game sex, but tonight it has marshawn it is those boys who are out there Burs, Ron you go and they will win this hockey game against Saint Louis. We got a great series in front of us over like the over five and five and a half. I mean the over his hit three out of. Call and in each of those three they scored a total of six goals, or more. So I think you're looking good cover the over with char out might as well. Throw it on the over right? Have you heard about the idiot blues fan? Well, actually, it's not an it's apparently. I'll let me preface this, the guy made a four hundred dollar bet when the blues were two hundred fifty to one or whatever. So he the blues win the Stanley Cup finals. It's a big number. He wins one hundred thousand shake good for one hundred thousand dollars. He is chosen or leases when he's been doing media has chosen not to hedge. He's chosen to win or lose the bet kind of like it for the that he's one train of thought is I'm going to jinx myself if I fuck in, you know, hedge. I don't know. I don't know. I, I mean, I would if it's one hundred thousand dollars or you lose four hundred dollars versus you can put a twenty five thousand dollar bet down on the Bruins, so you either win seventy five thousand dollars or you win twenty thousand dollars. I like that one much better than though definitely the conservative play in the most logical play. I mean yeah he's a blues fan. So he's, he's saying that he does. Doesn't like this is his team, go against them. But wasn't the thing wasn't the point of placing the bet in the first place to win money. And if they once they get to the finals, you are guaranteed to win money, especially, especially now when there to in the series price is much better than it was at the beginning series you might as well hedge now before they go down you hold on you in the Steelers in the same situation. Guests are the Steelers where you're wearing the colors edging it. Right. I mean you look at it, you know, you're, you're guaranteed fucking twenty four thousand six hundred dollars. That's your worst case scenario. That's a good year. Todd. This guy might not pump his own gas. We don't know about this. Yeah, I mean, so you know what I'm saying think he's doing pretty well, right? If he's placing a forty dollar bet on the blues when they were the worst record. It's saying, so he may have he may have butlers around him but. Still and for those guys that, that, that, that's nothing. I'm gonna I'm gonna play. And I'm gonna get my juice off a four hundred bucks, two hundred thousand you know, but getting yourself into this position where you can hedge and guarantee yourself, a good amount of money is means you played it so, well, good for you, bro. You one that already money. So that's a good point. I couldn't even imagine going into a game seven when I have one hundred thousand dollars on the line, and I, I would probably die before the end of the game on us. So just hedge take your money and just enjoy watching the game. You beat yourself up after the game when you win don't you after you beat yourself up, Utah, gigs, you Tony digs. When you collect fifty grand of a great hedge. It could about one hundred grand if you stuck with their team Tony, you're pissing Immonen after the game a little bit. I mean there's a little bit, but not I'm still laughing fucking straight to the Bank. It's life changing. I'm with you guys if I had to do it myself. I'm with you guys. Absolutely. You've got me. All right. So some other MLB picks gorge rained out today, complete absolute thunderstorms over the all thirty teams. All right. So I was also on the the with Todd one of my other picks today. I'm going Minnesota in Cleveland over eight and a half. The pitchers Bauer and barrows powers of big name Jeb hours been very, very good. But his last four starts giving up seven four four and six various believes seven two with three points on the Yarra. But also in his last four. He's giving it four four four and five so coming in they're not in the greatest of form. The twins are fourth against right in pitchers. And Cleveland is thirteenth. So I just think the number of eight and a half is a little low just because probably because of the names that are on the mound. So I'm going over the eight and a half for Minnesota. And Cleveland Todd. What else are you gonna other baseball fix? Do I have Milwaukee remind at home against Miami and get that? Plus one fifteen. There's no way the Bruins loose tree at home. They fucked me twice in a row. I get it. But there's no way they lose three straight at home to the Marlins no way today. They pay back. It's redemption day Miller park. Everyone gets a free bobble head and the brewers. Fucking. That was another reason why took the Yankees as well. They're not gonna get swept by fucking Toronto. You would think swept by Toronto and then my last baseball pick. I'm going angels. And as over nine. Slugfest nor last night. Didn't they did? And angels are third in the last since April sorry since may first. Yup. I said that correctly, since may, I the angels are third versus right hand pitching. Fires is on the mound for the aids. He's six point three seven ER eight six away starts this year, and then Oakland is forth versus lefthanded pitching and Skaggs on the mound for the as our angels, and with a four point five ERA. So I'm going with the over in that game as well. Todd anymore a couple more. Michael have Texas, I live money line homeless. Baltimore big advantage on the mound for the Rangers Arado doing to two point four three are against David has one and seven seven point three sixty IRA. The Rangers second in the league runs scored in the first five. Baltimore is twenty f- take that for what it's worth? And he's worth a lot because it's no way. Right. Correct. I five money, I would else, and I have the nationals, I five money line against the Padres. Both are starting left handed pitchers Corbin for the nationals three point four, seventy are a in Luke as e for the Padres. Three point nine sixty are a both pretty good. Why is this important because the nationals are the third best hitting team against lefties in the league and the Padres are absolutely the worst team in the league hidden against lefties, since April first, and the Padres are twenty ninth and legal runs scored in the first five innings of play national fifteenth. Everything about trendy fucking Stati Todd. He's on fire. Don't go against him. You can follow us on the action at my action dot APs last, bro. Bets on Twitter, apper vets gorge, you got anything else today, buddy idea. We've got a couple more games in the WNBA talked about Bill, Laimbeer and his Las Vegas aces. This is the weird one boys because I'm looking at these lines as soon as they are announced and on a couple of services. I saw pick them starting line. Okay. And then it went to minus three and then. And then I'm looking back and all of a sudden, and I'm seeing it wasn't a pick em line. So I'm a little bit confused. I don't know if it started at even and went to minus three but I'm sticking with the bad boy himself. Bill Laimbeer in the Las Vegas aces. Tony you love. Liz cambridge. You love the way she's playing she's healthy. She's back on the floor. The Atlanta dream or having nightmares tonight. All right. So you're. NBA picks WNBA in Las Vegas. Aces, minus the three against the Atlanta dream. I am taking the Connecticut sun at the casino tonight. Todd, you know how well jonquil Jones is playing right now. So tell me about how he's actually well, she is on the floor at the casino, taking the minus the five against Ghouma K and the sparks. And of course, my best bet, which I said earlier, the Minnesota lynx minus the one and a half at home against the mercury orbs. Do you want all three WNBA picks in the Cup of coffee part that's up to you? Tony. I just work here. How, how strongly do you feel about two, which one do you feel the least strong about which one I feel the lease strong about is probably those, they Ogle mccade, the sisters out there in LA, the Connecticut the five and you know, there's probably gonna shoot myself in the foot, but you know what? Let them all run. We're gonna let them all run. All right. Let's go. All right. Hold on. I am going to be a big. We're gonna let them all run. And I'm gonna take my first five or my twins. Cleveland Indians over off. Why? I don't feel good about as good about it as I do your WNBA picks K and the current site that I'm using right now only allows ten team parts of it. A lot eleven we kept them all in so we got a ten team. Barley today. Let's roll through real quick Boston. Bruins, minus one forty five as age over nine and a half years. He's minus one and a half the links on, it's one and a half. St Louis blues, Boston. Bruins over five and a half Milwaukee Brewers. Minus one and a half Texas Rangers, I five nationals, I five the Las Vegas ace's, minus three in the Connecticut. Sun, minus six that is five dollars to win twenty eight hundred dollars now. We're wade. Twenty eight hundred I got a fun stat, and it's not a segment. Maybe I'll make it into one though for the gamblers out there. Abedin the Stanley Cup finals the winner of game five win the series is tied to as one onto win. Seventy two percent of the seventy two percent of those go on to win the Cup. So we're saying, Austin tonight, odds tradition says the Boston will host the Cup. I'm saying that they will buck tradition. But Boston Winston night. Okay. You know, I was we joy good stats here going, and I appreciate you sharing that with us tomorrow or and have little little Belmont preview. Is that correct final final results or final final picks for the results that are on Saturdays race? Yeah. An- and maybe some French Open semis. Yeah, I took a boy. Did I take a what's good tennis line? What's that called the and I'm a tennis player to two? I took one right in the shorts over to. On what? Oh, gosh. On what Madison keys I had on their both of them lost. Anyway. Barda one and, and some over one who's seventeen year old American could be the next great player for the US aid, did you happen to see who moved in the semis straight straight sets victory. Good Dominic team baby. That's your guy. That's my future is one of my future spectators bosses out, but Tomek team is in the semis, boy, Tony can go baby. That's the show for today. The best we could do for you now is just wish you could look luck. Look. Pay paid that men his money.

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Ep. 62: May 31st - 86% winners on Fridays

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Ep. 62: May 31st - 86% winners on Fridays

"Always ready. Eskin. House waiting for you. I was waiting for you. Tony. It's your show that is your Wu. It's friday. Good afternoon. Gamblers. This is bro bets say podcast four degenerates by degenerates. I'm your host, Tony digs. I am here with the one only bro. Bro, bro. Bro, bro. Man himself. The creator of the show. Jeffrey gorman. Good morning. Good afternoon. Tony Todd mccombs usually in the chair here out on special assignments, Daschle, Simon. But we do have his son. Yes, Billy Bailey gator McComb is silly Bailey ones twos. We couldn't appreciate his work anymore every single day. Thank you, Bill. How'd you do last night? You know, not bad, not, what's not bad. Well, we won with the raptors we'd be we won with Iraq. I say, we I say the community that is bro bets and myself and my road, the raptors at the starting point of minus one. I think it went to plus one fixing inflection matter what. But they wanted handed leave raptors take care of business against Golden State. My Yankees Red Sox was postponed due to the mother, the mother nature. So that happens. Yeah. So we went to into last night. That was in our Cup of coffee day parlay. You did not have the warriors which Todd and I were on. But I mean taught nine said it was it was approved game for the raptors. Yeah. And it was a weird game. Tony. It's, it's a loss game is what it is for. I know what it is for me. I know. I caught a lot of hell on forget, I threw up the democracy. Didn't catch up the democracy. Flag said. We were like the warriors Gertie to win. I said it was approved game for the rafters. Did they prove it? I still don't fuck. No, because quite play great while they're six games left, and they won the first trying to the rafters. Quiet by great Lowry. Didn't play great. But then they still fucking one marker salt played pretty Sparta Saul was fucking. Well, there wasn't anyone within four hundred feet of him every time we fucking shot the ball, fucking vanfleet best player in the world. Really fucking Seok goes for plus. Then the only one the only guy who really showed up for the warriors with staff Steph has been shown up, not not great game for Draymond. Plus about the postgame altercation with a certain rap star from Toronto drizzled Drake. Caught him trash. How about that? Come on. What are you doing? Do you want it up at a fucking hospital? Like if I nobody's also in his dressing room on tour when he's going to see him and stuff, I come on with this, but like I know if I mean if he I bet you wouldn't do streets now streets on the sideline. He's got a strain on. We'll get fucking suspended forever. If he hits them, you're right. And sixteen or seventeen thousand of his closest friends are around him when he hasn't been Katie tattooed on his arm and covered up with a fucking respond. But hey, that's neither here, nor there Drake will win or lose this series. But we got a barn burner. I love it already. I am saying that you better come to play next time they play this game. What is it Saturday night Sunday night? They play Sunday. So I'm saying Boyce. I mean you just got slapped around GS w and Kevin Durant rumored becoming back mid Siri bid series, which you think will be gave three. I think it'll be gained four. I think Kevin Durant. This is best case scenario for him. I think he wants the warriors to be don't. Oh two and then come back and play you. That's the way he's built the way he thinks I think that's what he wants blow them out in game three didn't look great last night. I came back. He looked what do you want? I mean guys been nothing. But from the last two and a half years, he's been nothing but on the trainer's table. So I get it. I get it. No, I get it too. It was it was a weird. It was a weird game one, I don't know what to make out probably stay off came to, to be honest about that later though. As far as our best bets Mike own state one lost. So I am I went three into on the weekend. Todd his LA dodgers. I five was a winner. So he's also three into the week and then gorge you had a winner as well with the raptors. So you went to two in one take that, while you're still crown Louis. That's all right after now after after three weeks or two weeks. I'm not sure taught has to crowns and I have one crown since we've tied the last two weeks, and he won the first one this table that I said, at in his Mike speaking, this is my crown so don't take that away from me. I you know what I'm saying? My glasses half-full. Tony, even though I'm a distant third in these best bets. I understand that guy, Geoffrey. I understand that. But, like maybe just get on the board. Get on the board. So we have best bets for today. I have Todd's Tif effects that into me this morning. Facsimile likes the loss Angeles angels. Okay, mr. Trout. Todd mccombs. Let me say again. Let me clarify to make sure he likes the loss Angeles. Angels, money line as his best bet today. Gotcha. So just so everyone knows. Todd is on the Los Angeles angels, got it. Who do you have my best of the day? I'm going back to the hardcore the professional basketball, the who the professional basketball league known as the w NBA the WNBA, and it is a barn burner today, one of the great game so far early in the season is tonight, we're talking about the Las Vegas aces going on the road to take on Iraq in great game. Yes now what do we know? Here's what we know Diana Terachi out for Phoenix. Okay. But here's what we do. Know Vegas aces in the off season acquired last year's runner up for the MVP. Liz candidates, she missed the first danger. Yes, she was. She missed the first game. She's back healthy. She will start. I will. Twenty one points eleven boards to Rossi's out, like I said, but don't forget, Britney Griner. We all know MS. Here out in Phoenix. Yes, good player. Great great player seven turnovers our first game not playing great. Liz candidates the baller season. So that's the big war tonight, the two twin towers going at it. Liz cameras against Britney Griner. I am taking Las Vegas as is minus the point to point and a half depending on where you get it on the road to take care of business against the Phoenix. Mercury, which also doubles as my best bet tonight. Liz cabbage, we need you tonight. Let's go lady also not forget, when when the WNBA when teams travel to Las Vegas to play in Las Vegas. It's a it's a tough. It's a tough environment. Really tough environment. Vegas special. Yeah. But also tough is when you travel to Phoenix like the Las Vegas ICES, are that was on me. Yeah. So sorry I'm not up to my. My best bet. Tony the Colorado Rockies. First five run line against the Toronto Blue Jays this Toronto. I believe I said, at the other day, they are last versus right hand pitching, the last thirty days sky, Colorado is forth. Versus right hand pitching. We have to right handers on the mound. Toronto has Edwin Jackson going, he is owing to with a ninety are a in his two starts this year, and the Rockies have her mom Marquez going five into the three point five ERA just gimme the Rockies verse Toronto, I five run line. Okay. That is my best bet. That is our best pets. Let's just roll. Let's just continue to roll right into baseball. Do you have any other baseball I do from last night's wash out in the Bronx? The Boston to on the road, I am going the. Same pitchers today. Jay app for the Yankees against Chris sale. The Red Sox. I'm sorry Chris sale. You're not having the best year you have come around put together some strikeouts major strike outs. A couple of starts ago, but I like the Yankee bats. I like what gangqi bring to getting healthier. I like what they bring in the Bronx. And again, this is a rivalry but I like the New York Yankees as a better team overall for the season, a team that, in my opinion will win the World Series is in your humble in my humble opinion, so I'm sticking with the Anki against the Boston Red Sox and Chris sale tonight. That is not my best bet. But it is that I'm going to put it on the parlay Cup of coffee. A day parlay can't figure out Chris sale this year. He started off terrible. He still the if you bet Chris sale every single game. He is the worst pitcher to vet this entire season. He's good enough. Tony to turn around. In seventeen strikeouts. Or whatever. But they still lost the game. The he's gets is getting very little run support. But we'll see what happens tonight. My one of my MO bets, almost my best bet thought about that about for a second. But it's I don't like I don't I don't like to, to put losers as my best. But there. Yeah. Losers lose Tony the Baltimore Orioles. I'm done with the Baltimore Orioles. I five why am I going with verse five? I'm glad you didn't. Because they have the twenty ninth ranked bullpen with them. I five okay? Let me talk to you about San Francisco Giants. Orioles are playing they are twenty six verse right handing pitching, the Orioles have cash on the mountain, which is by far. The os best picture pitcher these five and two with a two point nine to ER eight home, and he's much better at night than is during the day. This happens to be night game today. Going ins drew Pomeranz for the giants who has been fucking terrible, one in five of the six point four five era and the year during may, he's got the starts. He's Owen two with a fourteen Yara a fourteen era some going against cash ner. So I'm going with cash ner, and the os vs Pomeranz. And the giants Baltimore Orioles, I five and then my last baseball pick going back to the well, they disappointed me other day, there's no way that is point me again. The Houston Astros are minus one twenty five or c Oakland as we all Brad peacock is on the mound for Houston. He's five and two of the three point one nine ERA. The as are good verse lefties. But Brad peacock is not a lefty. He is a righty. And they are twenty first versus righties might fires on the mound for the as also won thirteen of their last forty. I don't care Jeffrey. I don't care but is a good sats. Del listener Scher us cracked the as are hot. But Mike fires is on the mound for the ace got five Yara. Houston is number three versus righties. It should be. Hey, if anything it's going to be a good game to watch, but gimme Houston, minus the one twenty five the I'm leaning on that one. I like it against can shoot on my pick, and now you're with me did not I'm just simply reminding youth winners of thirteen straight. At one point. I don't know if they won or loss to go to three thirteen fourteen but it's something close like that. But when you go into Houston, you're talking about a world champion world champion. I know we're talking bad, bad teams that are planned good Houston come down to earth. And that's what I'm talking about. You said the probably your World Series Beck Houston's, probably my worlds. So that's MLB. You didn't have any more. Did you know I didn't? But I do have a little, it's a tone of water. I don't know if you don't want a Cup of coffee day parlay, but I want to say it early enough in this show as we tape that when it comes out at about twelve ten eastern time today. I've got something out of the French Open that I'm kinda hard. Okay. Yeah. What do you hard on? To say hot on, but it came out hard. This is a massive action podcast is not really. But anyway, I'm hot on Stefan, OSE Tepa Tizi pays Citybus. Okay. Going at twelve ten eastern against Philip crusher Novic. Okay. And crushing Ovatch good player. But he is not Stefanos to SEPA. He's not poss and he will be favored, you won't get a great return on bass, but not bad, but I'm saying if you want to you don't have to put this in a Cup of coffee parlay, but listeners, go out right now to your betting platforms and throw a little bit on the final St. bus. Well, here's the thing, he made that pick and you, you got me very excited. And then I went to look to see theods where the new total put a little bit on it. They're gonna put more than a little bit because he's minus five twenty six that's what I'm saying. I mean I do we do well, coach, I want winners. That's what we're trying to do now. Some winters odds are going to be better than others. This is not great. You know what I'm saying? You put five dollars down. You win one dollar type thing. That's what it is five twenty six. Or tomorrow, why boy, Dominic team the both both my picks are still is won't let you know, you were too afraid to make a future spic for the French. I was I was I was not Tizi Boston team. Yeah, we're still fucking role. What you want all? Here's my bet for the fridge open. If you wanna put a little bit on it, you could get Novak Djokovic mines, ten thousand first Salvator crews, I'll never go for those guys like that. I mean, if they're playing each other like if it's no doubt fetter, I'll do, but if dolls going against the guys unranked or twenty first or something that's like, you know, you're not gonna get the ads there, but I understand your, your point. What's poss being such a huge favor today? But your boy, gale on phases mice twelve hundred. I love it. Number one. I mean, the finest athlete to ever play sport, Gail feet. All right. So we got WNBA MLB French Open covered tomorrow night, the NHL puck drops again on game three in Saint Louis blue. Yes. In Saint Louis, blues or mine. One, fifteen Bruins or minus one, oh, five. Who do you like tomorrow, rolling with the blues at rolling with the blues at home, the defensive slash slash bullying tactics that their their size is wearing down? We see a lot of hits on both sides, but I love it. You Saint Louis in town is crazy right now. I don't know that they're going to win both of these. I believe they'll say, do it, but I'm also taking him to win the first one of the split. So it kind of tells you what I'm thinking about game four. I love these two teams going at it, and I think we get along series. They played great in Boston, if they would just sparking stop taking dumb fucking penalties. What are they doing? What, what are they know discipline there? But I also like the blues as well. Also tomorrow we have the Super Bowl of soccer the Champions League final number pull in Totten. Oh, you toady all me. Well, it could be on me, but I also went to our footy expert. Don't. Cathcart. Gump. Cathcart. Who is a diehard diehard Liverpool fan. So I don't wanna go against them. So I reach out to his pick. And I said, hey man, what do you like Martha Champions League? He loves over two and a half goals. Thanks, there's going to be some scoring tomorrow, both of these, both these, when they play both times this year. It was two one in Liverpool's favour, I am going to just. For value in for funds sake. I'm not going to not bet this game. So I'm gonna go with Tottenham in the plus three twenty three you're taking the Hotspurs taking Hotspur. Thank you. I was I was going to load up on them after you're done talking about it. But popovich. Antonio Hotspurs Harry gains back, KOMO man. So I go, my, the some of the thing about now. Seriously? I like this. I like to I like I like that. They lost the earlier meetings and they're low scoring Hotspurs your win. And I'm sorry to Gump Cathcart Liverpool. What are they lions, the reds reds or the red line something, something like that anyway, I I'm with you on this? And I'm not a big footy guy. But I do like, as you know, it's just like if you've never watched, if you're not soccer person, I am soccer person. I grew up playing a little bit. Love watching it. There's the spectacle tomorrow at the pre-game. And everything is basically it is literally as the SuperBowl just tune in for Lewis. It's fucking. It's really cool tomorrow. And then Sunday nights we are back on the hardwood game to warriors are currently plus two Toronto minus two interro for game to do you have any thoughts. I do. Steve Kerr will show up and bring his team out on the floor. But the defensive minded, the way that they're playing and got some good bench. Play. Got some good. What what's the word? I'm looking for, for the scrappy, I guess, for lack of turned the grit of the Toronto Raptors and, you know, pass Calcio comes in mar Marcus, all's Nick Powell. And of course, vanfleet ventilate I just like it. I like that, that places nuts up there. They're there without their biggest auto care. What anybody says when you take him out of the lineup and Kevin Durant? It changes everything. I know join playing out of his mind right now getting a little testy at times. And I've seen them before let's go to nothing back to Golden State. I'm taking Toronto on Drake stuff. Like if it's going to be played because 'cause Drake or sorry, because Draymond plays with a lot of intensity emotion. I wonder if it's going to go in his favor or if he's is fucking cool. I love I love Drake's doing because to get into his head. I, I really do. I'm serious. If you can help out and he's not even wearing I know he was wearing jersey but he's not on the team. But I'm saying if you can get in his head. Sometimes it just be a needle. Or sometimes, you know, poke him in the ribs. Every now and again verbally. I love it. I love what they're doing. I think they're going to get the second wind up in Toronto, and then the series starts. Oh, yeah. That's Katie comes back, say serious series doesn't start until you lose one on your own. I don't know that somebody will in this one. We'll see. All right. So those are that's everything for today. Pastathon is five twenty six if you know anything about the show, you know that on Fridays, we are fucking hot our Friday record might be eighty six percent somewhere out there around eighty win on parlay Cup of coffee parlays on Friday. Friday is, is a big big day. Tony's oh, today, Tope board a body toke sixteen who six Team Cup of coffee, a day parlay for you on this. Beautiful Friday may thirty first. What a great mates been I five Baltimore Oriels, minus one. Temp to chain verse five Colorado Rockies, run line, pay me, Houston Astros mice when twenty five game I want Los Angeles angels, one thirty five you me, Las Vegas. Aces, minus one straight cat, New York, Yankees, plus one twenty five me my money five dollars to win one hundred ninety one dollars about that damn good weekend on that to honor your welcome your weekends covered by us not bad. All you did was give us five dollars. We give. You won nineteen year weekends Cup, plus one eighty five in my book, and that's you know, walking around with free cash shots for the boys, so by some shoes for the girls if you want it, don't matter. Tony get cash in your pocket and do with this Cup of coffee day par lay whatever you want to say, you know what at vets on Twitter, my action dot apps on my action up action network. Yep. And also this follow Tony digs on, on social media. He's a funny guy talented athlete. 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