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"edward snowden" Discussed on KDWN 720AM
"He's gonna be 82 years old in four years. I don't want to. I don't want to pardon people like Steve Bannon, who rip off their own supporters of money to build a wall and then they get Caught out in the yard with a Chinese billionaire and then get pardoned by Trump. Did you know that somebody that would you know that Barack Obama pardoned or commuted 1900 people and Bill Clinton part of his own brother? Let's finish. Go ahead, John. I'm sorry, David. I'm sorry, David. Go ahead. Yes. I just don't want to hear about how he's the one that cares about this these people and then rip them off and screw him at every turn Every chance he can. I think that's a really good response. Yes, David. That's a really good response. And by the way, David, do you think you're gonna get that kind of that There was a lot of money raised for black lives matter. And that money went through an organization called Act blue dot Orig, which is a Which is an organization were Democrats raising money. What I'm saying is where did that money go? I think it was. I think it went the way I think it went to buy another conspiracy. A conspiracy theory, Brian, if that's conspiracy Syrians, Okay. Then it's conspiracy theory that Trump had Trump had both problem. No problem. I'm just saying I'm saying where is working for me? I'm not finished. Where did that money go? And by the way, E didn't get a talk, Okay? He was talking the entire time. I e. I try to talk and you let him keep talking to remember that sometimes, but that's okay. What? No. No brothers, your evidence to that. Barack Obama pardoned or commuted over 1900 his presidency and Bill Clinton part in his own brother. So don't give me this Bs about about Donald about Donald Trump pardoning too many people. You know what he should have done? I'm actually I actually lost respect for Donald Trump last night because Mitch McConnell stayed up all night. Waiting is what Mitch McConnell and Senate members are doing right now is they have been holding over? Donald Trump said that if he had a few pardons Edward Snowden, Julian a sandwich or Ross Ulbricht, if he if he pardons any of these three people That he will be impeached by the Senate and convicted And Mitch McConnell's been holding that over, said and Donald Trump gave in last night to Mitch McConnell. And he didn't pardon Julian Julian Massage Edward Snowden or Olbricht. And I lost some. I lost some respect for Donald Trump last night by doing Jack down, because he No, I can't okay. Yeah, of course you can't find it's waiting for you to finish that just finished not getting an opportunity to really converse with collars or Anybody. First of all JD's claim that Joe Biden somehow might have stolen money from the Black lives matter. Movement. There is zero evidence to back up. I didn't say stolen money. I just said the money was raised through and blue dot org's, which is where democratic politicians raise their money. So where is the evidence was there was a lot of money raising. Don't know where that money. Where is the evidence that it was? By buying? Shred all I'm asking you questions didn't break records for his campaign donations There is no I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I'm saying I'm just saying words, okay? The more I go. You said it. There is no evidence. Okay, So now now we can. It doesn't work that way. I'm just I'm just saying, if what you're saying one of the money, Great. So we have a caller on the line. You're very long winded he had about you know, he was interrupted a couple times. I'd like to give David the last word. David. We only have a minute. So go ahead. What's up, David? I just I just say, I want to teach you about in living reality. People criticize him fair criticism. I wanted to know I want to do good. I wanted to work with all these governors to do a better job with the vaccine and not say I'm not going to call that governor back of these reporters, And if we ever criticized I wanted to care about other people, and I think he will. I want to look out for people other than that. I agree with you. That's what I look for. David, I think you're gonna get that wish I really do. At least I hope so. David and trust me. I know exactly where you're going with that. And you're absolutely right. David. I appreciate the call my friend. Thank you very much. We gotto we're actually up against Ah, break, but we got it. We got to take a break right now. David. Thank you for the call. Right here is we're gonna do We have one phone line open to 575396. We got all your calls on the other side of the break. What do you want to see from the Joe Biden administration? It's day one. Joe Biden is the President Donald Trump is no longer the president of the United States. 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"edward snowden" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"That was the proud boys thing. Stand back and stand by. Everybody knows that more evidence His Trump Jr We're coming for you, and we're gonna have a good time doing it. So we're coming for you are the key words there And here's really Giuliani 16 seconds of him last Wednesday. Yes, we're wrong Way will be made fools off. But it's we're right. A lot of them will go to jail. So let's have trial by combat. Let's have a trial by combat professor or if maybe that's the most explicit out of all the statements that we've played, Maybe out of all the statements that exist Could Rudy Giuliani be under criminal investigation for incitement to insurrection? And secondarily does what Giuliani says on behalf of the president confer any legal liability on the president. I think Rudy Giuliani could be investigated. I think anyone who was involved in in speaking to the crowd in that context could well be under investigation. I think that whether or not his statements essentially can be attributed to the president. I think is it depends in part on whether the president was hearing them in processing them. But again, all of this is very, very important to understand the context into which any subsequent statement was made on whether the speaker of any subsequent statement would have appreciated. Um, the sort of the flammability of this situation. So everything you've played so far to my mind is part of that context. Obviously, the closer we are to the acts of violence in question on did Giuliani statements at the rally? Um Are are getting very, very close those because those build in their significance again because of the imminent see standard, But all of it. Everything you've played so far is relevant context. I think we have a legal question here from Peter in Manhattan. Peter, you're a W N Y. C with Cardoza law Professor Jessica Roth. Hi. Hello. Hello. Thank you for taking my call. First time call of a long time Listener. I I've been listening for quite a while. Now, since, uh Well, a concerned ever since with very closely since Thea election in the No one seems to have brought up the fact that he's He's a flight risk. I mean, he's got access Torto. Trump is a flight risk, and he said he has access to Air Force One, and I think a lot of people know where. Do welcomes with open arms and Well, busy girl. Uh, but I'm just I'm sorry he could bunk with Edward Snowden, who's hiding out in that same country. Peter, I take your point on flight risk. Of course, Professor Roth. He hasn't been charged with anything yet. And I guess That would come in to play in a bail hearing or whether somebody had to be held awaiting trial. So, but I'll entertain that hypothetical because we know that This incitement to interaction aside, Trump might be charged here in New York with various crimes at the Manhattan D A. In the New York State attorney general are investigating financial crimes and things like that. And maybe he really is a flight risk. So what do you think? What happened in that case if he was indicted, would he be put in jail so he didn't flee the country? Well, That's something that the judge who be presiding at the bail hearing would have to determine taking into effect all the into a into account all the facts and circumstances including community ties, sort of financial wherewithal and contacts for the ability to flee. S so that would be a fact intensive inquiry. Certainly something judges do take into account is motivation to flee a swell as the sort of the opportunity and the means to do so s Oh, um, that can be, uh, Factor of the that could be the product of the the severity of the sentence, the potential sentence that somebody would face a swell as potentially other considerations that might motivate them to flee. Let's turn to the investigation and prosecution of the people involved physically in the riot and mark in Parsippany has a question about that. And then I have a question about that. Mark you're on w N. Y. C with law Professor Jessica Roth. Hi. Good morning, Brian. Thank you so much for your wonderful program. The work you and your team do is so important. Please, Please keep it up. My question to the professor is given the fact that the storming of the capital would have to be classified as a violent felony. And given the fact that people died as a result. What? Why are they not heard the term felony murder? As a possible charge used been watching for a week now, and this is one of my first thoughts. Once I heard people died, I would just like to know more about that. Actually, I think the U. S. Attorney for D. C. Who have that news conference yesterday did cite felony murder. I think he used that exact term. For some of the charges that could be forthcoming. Professor Roth. Is that your understanding? Yes, I think we are starting to hear people talk about that as a possibility, given that somebody did die. Multiple people died but including one Capitol police officer who was on duty at the time. On DSA SoHo. I think felony murder is very much something that would be considered if murder charges are brought. Felony murder would be a possible theory for that. What about terrorism charges if terrorism is defined as an act of violence intended to influence of political outcome? Well, that was terrorism to the lay person's eye. But the U. S attorney in the news conference yesterday seemed to say he was not looking at that specific charge. Do you understand that? Well, there's a number of other statutes that could be used on guess. Oh, I think probably the prosecutor is going to be exploring those first. Um, I think there isn't one single law that makes domestic terrorism a crime. And so it may be that the better course is to use other statutes in in prosecuting the conduct that did occur. Enduring the siege, Members of Congress had to huddle in rooms with each other and the partisan divide over wearing masks for covert protection. Didn't and even those extreme life and death circumstances and from the reporting I've seen even when Democrats asked Republicans to please wear a mask as as they were huddling in close quarters, and many said no Now At least three Democrats have come down with Cove it and Clooney, including Bonnie Watson Coleman of New Jersey, who's 75 years old. Does that leave anyone in legal jeopardy for?.
"edward snowden" Discussed on KGO 810
"Full pardon? Edward Snowden? No Edward Snowden. Oh, all right, explain it. Because comparative what has been going on for the past couple of years with President Trump. It's not. Is that what he did it, Z So basically because President trouble know where the bar as far as he did. It's like, you know, Edward Snowden may have turned state secrets he may have exposed the government will be the government was totally wrong and everything they were doing, But since we've really lowered the bar, is he really that bad anymore? In comparison, that sort of the argument here. All right, All right. All right, Caitlin, Caitlin hereby grants full pardon to Edward Snowden. I guess he can come out of the Russian Embassy now hardened her phone service to while she's at it, right? Yeah, I hereby pardon. I don't know who she has. I got a private rises every problem there. Is that a spring issue. Uh, this problem about a mile away from my house. I lose my signal for two miles. There's like a two mile radius. I get nothing. So I'll be talking to somebody Somebody will call Justus. I'm getting in the car driving up the driveway. I'm like I will call you back and exactly 96 seconds s. Oh, yeah. Z trippy 80 88 10. Okay. Anthony got another 10? Yeah, sure. Yeah, I got another pardon. I'm thinking about it. So I would like to pardon the IHOP in the Atlanta International Airport. For serving Gene, the driest finished chicken fried country steak meal I've ever had. It was like it was like sandpaper. And But you want to give them a pardon? How you're really You're willing to let that go like to? I'd like to let it go because you know we were You know how you get stuck in the terminal? Because the plane can't leave. So you're there. You're stuck on a layover. And so you know, my my folks and I were all in the Atlanta airport, and we wanted something to eat. We wanted maybe some late night breakfast to put us asleep. And so my girl to you is the country fried steak and eggs, and I've had it at every other IHOP and it looks fine. It kind of looks like what it is on the menu. Not exactly, but I'll still eat it. This time around. It was the finished It was. It was, like 80% crust and, like 0 20% like parchment of beef in there. And it was 30% more expensive than usual to it. Probably the same price too. If if I remember correctly, But you know, I'm parting them because it was 4 A.m. in Atlanta. You know, these chefs probably want to go home. Grade on that thing. Good. I'm Yeah, It's gonna Livermore. Curtis. You like to grant a pardon? Yes, sure. Hope the police start. Listen to this one. I want to work in the next What apartment? An ex friend of mine who Well, I love my car, too. Once they started to go to the store and load up the grocery card, walk out of the stock out of a kind of the story and fill up my car. With the stuff that he walked out with. Oh, no. Oh, yes. So they go out running after him and blocked my car. And he kind of moves yourself out of there without hitting anybody don't like police Comey up and want to arrest me and I told him Well, you know, it's just a friend of mine that I loaned it to that. I don't really know much about What's his name? And I only had a first name or does he live? And I wouldn't get that information out. Wow. Of course. The cops don't believe you. They don't believe you at all. Yeah, Not at all. You know, I do all the information, but I wasn't going to give it to them. But he can't He is that my friend anymore. No, I'm parting putting him because he really needed the stuff because you know he's He's cute. He's not making any money on, you know, disability and all this all this all right way. The government with the government treats us now. Where were we even get a system? Check. Come on, right, right, all right, good for the taxpayers, but I'll get a part in that time. All right, Curtis hereby grants full pardon to ex friend. Name withheld. All right. Very good. Curtis 80 88 10 80 88 10 to Seaside and Jonah. Hello. Hey, Are we giving a pardon? Yes. All right, Trump Shinjo Anything Okay, So you're gonna pardon him? Yes. What do you pardoning him for? Nothing because he didn't do anything. So okay, So you're granting a pardon for somebody that didn't do anything? Yes. Sounds mighty suspicious. Okay, people are Touching him. Sound suspicious like you. Yeah. Changing him. Something he didn't do. Well, then why does he need a party? Because he didn't do anything you have to pardon crumbles. Better innocents. Okay. All right. Thanks to all of this works innocent then they don't need apart. It's guys. This argument is not gonna go anywhere. There's really no point, Jonah. Thank you very much. Appreciate the phone call is always 80 88 10 80 88 10 will give you a chance. Uh, whom Are.
"edward snowden" Discussed on KCRW
"Edward Snowden, the former U. S security contractor wanted on espionage charges in the U. S. Is applying for Russian citizenship. He and his wife have been living in Russia since 2013 and now they say they're expecting a baby. Snowden says he doesn't want to risk being separated from his child in the air of a pandemic and quote, closed borders. Over. Snowden says he and his wife will not renounce their US nationalities. Armed assailants have killed at least 32 civilians in western Ethiopia. NPR's Ada Peralta reports. This comes amid a spate of ethnically motivated killings. According to the Ethiopian Human Rights Commission, Ethnic Am Harris living in the area were dragged out of their homes. They were taken to a school where at least 32 were killed. Amnesty International puts that told at 54. Ethiopia has been beset by ethnic violence for about two years. Prime Minister Abby Achmed, who won the Nobel Peace Prize last year, has been unable to unify his country. His administration has postponed elections and arrested opposition leaders. Which has only exacerbated ethnic tensions. Now members of his party are blaming the previous regime for these attacks, and that regime, which controls Ethiopia's northernmost region, is warning of war if I be retaliates Peralta NPR NEWS Nairobi This is NPR. Support for NPR comes from NPR stations. Other contributors include little passports, offering activity kids to keep kids engaged and expand their minds. They'll explore France and Brazil and build a volcano and.
"edward snowden" Discussed on KFI AM 640
"Aah! Pick a horse dude. He and his wife, Lindsay, have been living in Russia, of course, and she's pregnant. And they said they're expecting a child who will have Russian citizenship. And he said, after years of separation from our parents, my wife and I have no desire to be separated from our son. That's why they're applying for jewel. US Russian citizenship, although He says he's going to raise his son with good American values. Well, this is a technical issue. Russia's granted him asylum if you were will, and up to now he couldn't get Russian citizenship because Russia follows the old rule. That you have to renounce citizenship to any other country. My parents when they became American citizens had to renounce their Brazilian citizenship. That's changed completely. Now. You can have dual citizenship. You gonna quadruple citizenship s O My niece. My niece has quadruple citizenship because she has figured out every connection she could possibly have. Good for he. Also, Edward Snowden said he looks forward to the day can return to the United States so his family can be reunited. Well when he gets arrested, Yeah, a worker details you know they will be reunited. Unfortunately, be it'll be through glass eyes is where they'll be able to talk to each other and a little handset. So how's that for a re union? What couldn't come back Moorhouse andl on the news late edition. Jennifer what's going on President Trump and Joe Biden will focus.
Edward Snowden Will Seek Russian Citizenship Ahead of Son's Birth
"An American who revealed secrets of the National Security Agency wants to be a Russian citizen. Edward Snowden has said he's applying for a Russian passport for the sake of his unborn son. A whistle blower and his American wife, Lindsay Mills, revealed last week she is pregnant, Snowden wrote on Twitter. They were getting Russian citizenship to ensure they won't get separated from their son. In this time of pandemics and closed borders, he said they will remain American citizens and he hopes still to return to the U. S. Snowden is being living in Moscow since 2013. When he was given political asylum after he leaked documents revealing vast surveillance by the NSA.
"edward snowden" Discussed on The Dave Gram Show on WDEV
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"edward snowden" Discussed on The Dave Gram Show on WDEV
"Him for fear of what what might happen to them in this cussing this kind of information and so he the resort for people all the way from Daniel Ellsberg. Edward, Snowden, his daughter newspapers. And and some people have the courage to do that and it's remarkable but it it. It means that their careers are destroyed. And now I think. The fact that we we had to pass the USA Freedom Act to end this book collection of telephone meditate. would suggest that snowden by disclosing. This did a great public service. We had the head of the national security, agency. James. Clapper going to the United States Senate and lying saying, this wasn't being done. and and and nothing happened to to Mr Clapper but Mr Snowden is living in exile. Snowden is currently a resident of Mile Russia, right? Yeah I guess and having like I wouldn't wish it on anybody. That is and I wanNA talk to you about sort of any prospects or Snowden to return to the United States perhaps. have his have his life restored to some extent When we return after the break, we do need to go to bottom of the hour news break from CBS year on the day of Graham, show and wd. Is, David Kelly's Vermont attorney who has been. Making, making a bit of a study I guess for his own.
"edward snowden" Discussed on The Dave Gram Show on WDEV
"Also important that that the court suggested. That there was nothing in the Patriot Act that authorized these kinds of collections. Show, you have. You know courts twice now important courts the Second Circuit, the Nice Ninth Circuit saying that's let snowden was saying was correct. The at a second circuit interestingly, if I recall correctly includes Vermont right is are we are part of that circuit? Yeah. That's right. That's right that's been in the ninth circuit of course, is based in California and. Includes a couple of states serve two three West basically and right and I just people know that a lot of people are relatively unfamiliar with the structure of the Federal Court system. Every state has its district courts. Vermont has a District Court. New York has a couple of the Middle East. And The. What's Once things go through the district level. Your introductory place in the federal court system. There is a system of appellate courts and that's what people are referring to when they when they talk about the ninth circuit or the Second Circuit Court. It's called circuit court because I travel around. Among the various states in their territories, and of course, the top layer there is the supreme court were, which occasionally though is there any talk of any of these matters go into the Supreme Court Dave. You know I I I haven't heard any I. it would seem to me said that these matters have to get there at some point There are huge issues out there and they haven't been addressed by Congress. we still have a lot of the programs that snowden talked about like. Key Score which are still functioning as I understand it. We have national security letters that are being issued, lighting, enormous amounts of. Data and information without any judicial review without a warrant they can be issued thousands of Murray. Issued every year I think fifty six out of the were issued in two, thousand four. I'm not sure how many were issued last year but I'm sure it was nine or ten, thousand and You have people like Snowden. If they were to go to trial heart basically left defenceless It's hard for them for their defense team to get information got nickel classified a judge can review it but the the defense can't. and they're not entitled to any public interest or necessity defense under the espionage act. So you have a lot of people who have I think Sacrificed a great deal in the public interest who are left in real dire straits I went to law school with one of them a man named Thomas Tam. In fact, his dad was Quinton. I'm one of the highest ranking people instead of Bureau's investigation but he was an attorney in the Justice Department and was concerned about some of this and he had no place to go a whistle blower has no place to go right now, and that's one of the things that needs to Jorde and the only place is to the press and when they go their their lives are ruined. And that's happened to. You know a number of folks. And and that's basically what whatever it snowed and did he I know he was talking with. has length with with Glenn Greenwald, and a couple of other journalists who were working at the time for for the Guardian and. Published some some articles about the about these alleged abuses that stone was trying to point out if you said, he went to the press. That was a crime. That's the last resort for any of these folks Tom Tam when he was working for the Justice Department is very best contact staff members on the Senate. Intelligence. Committee and they wouldn't talk to.
"edward snowden" Discussed on The Dave Gram Show on WDEV
"All of our institutions at various times cross a line and especially when it comes to law enforcement or national security we WANNA. Be Scrupulous to make certain that whatever is done in the name of law enforcement for national security doesn't violate constitutional rights that every American citizen has. So that that I am aggressively in agreement with and I look forward to hearing attorney Kelly talk about this. which unique about trump I mean it goes back. With unique about him he must've politicize it. It's not like he wants to hold it accountable. He wants the intelligence agencies in law enforcement agencies. To advance his political interests. That's the line that trump is crossing. It's not like he's saying, Hey, the FBI has a bad search warrant here we've got to have better procedures to protect constitutional rights. He's asking like he did with Mr Komi give Mr Flint give general break. You know he's my pal. Let's look the other way he's pardoning people because Kim Kardashian makes a call to him and ask him to do it. That's totally incompletely about trump. It's not about your constitutional rights in mind it's not about holding an agency accountable because they crossed the line that should be done. It's about forcing that institution or that individual WHO's in charge? To basically do the president's bidding on his behalf. That's outrageous. I want to shift gears to the Heroes Act which if I recall correctly the House passed. What was it back in June or may somewhere On it's it's over we're going on three months. Okay So. We're is that now what are the chances that a second round of Corona virus? Relief will be coming down from the federal government say between now and the end of the year. Just, release newsouth step back three. Oh about three months ago. The House passed the Heroes Act it's three trillion dollar bill and it focuses on things that had broad support. And that is state and federal. State and local aid you know for minus getting hammered with lost revenues and needs help this three billion dollars in the heroes hacked to help Vermont in for my the state and our municipalities it has more money for supporting small business and checks to individuals in extending unemployment. These things are necessary plus one hundred, billion dollars to help our schools open safely safely. So. That's really essential. The. The status of is that it's on Senator McConnell's desk in there. are negotiations on and off essentially between the white. House and leader, Pelosi Speaker Pelosi and I know what is being reported in the newspaper and my hope is that they'll be a concrete offer from the Senate in the president. That focuses on getting some aid back to states to individuals and to businesses, and to help our schools. Open may be considerably less than three trillion dollar package that the House passed. But what I'm seeing is that it's getting tougher and tougher you know that first round of aid really helps sustained people in some many of our businesses, but folks are hanging on. Now, and it's getting tougher and tougher, and it's not time the tap on the brakes I mean we've got to be there in the federal government is the only entity has the fiscal flexibility and capacity to help out. So I really really urge senator, McConnell and the president to please come to the table and make a concrete offer we're ready to negotiate. Folks we have time I think for a couple of calls from listeners to four four, one, seven, seven seven is the local number. In Waterbury the toll free number one, eight, seven, seven to nine, one, eight, two, five, five, or two, nine, one talk. And I think we have a listener checking new marshes online from very good morning Marsha. Morning Morning Dave, and morning. Thank you. I'm I'm wondering what's happening with the repealing of the two thousand six law that shackled the BUSTA. And I'll hang up and listen. Well we we would repeal that I. Mean I. Think what you're talking about is that law where there was this of really. Bad. Requirement imposed on the post office that is impose that nobody else where they had the prefund. All future healthcare expenses and pension obligations for like seventy five years. So it's a millstone, a financial millstone around the post office that is really hobbling. It's financial capacity to do its job. And I've been a longtime sponsor of the Law to repeal that it. It has no fiscal validity to it. It really had as its intention putting a millstone around the financial neck of the post office. So we've done that in the house. To get rid of it but it's something that. Hasn't been done by senator McConnell you know unfortunately, there's a back story here. You know the president is hostile to the post office and he gives two reasons. One is that he thinks that Jeff Bezos and Amazon is ripping the post office. Oh off and you know frankly whatever the mail rates are that are charged those should help to pay for the obligations of the post office. So that's one of his arguments in that but the other is that he doesn't want mail in voting. And the president. I, this is the president's where it's not nine. He said if the post office doesn't get, it's money. Then they won't be able to do the mail in voting. And You know the president is given credit for being very direct. He has met the mail in voting and therefore he doesn't want to help the post office. Martials I'd answer your question. All right, well. Yeah. That's that is actually an interesting fascinating development here where. The this business with the post office is as you say, Action Welsh. Quite direct in quite open that. We the president doesn't like mail in voting. Mail. In voting as we saw the August primary in Vermont. Looks like it has a tendency to increase. Participation and turn out and. There's a very fascinating piece in the New Yorker this week about how turn out high turnout is bad for Republicans and Republicans. Tend to take steps and states around the country to try to limit, turn out and so. Here we go. This is. Something Which? I'm wondering. Peter, Welch if you have any thoughts about what Democrats can do or just people who've who are maybe non-partisan but interested in in expanding the franchise and that the maximum number of Americans who have the right to vote ought to be able to vote it Cetera. which they would what? What are their strategies? This upcoming election season? I served for years in Congress with John Lewis, and we know we lost him. And his legacy was the nineteen sixty, five voting rights act. And that. Transformed Opportunities for African. Americans in the South who were denied the opportunity to vote. and. What we're seeing now is an effort to return to the pre. Voting. Rights Act situation in it's everything from president trump trying to kill the post office is a way to kill mail in voting and then specific provisions that are past in many states where they want to deny black and Brown people the opportunity to get to the polls. So, there's two things. One legislatively we've passed let we've passed bills to expand the franchise get stalled in the Senate with senator. McConnell. That could change next year if we have a new leadership in the Senate. But second there's an there's something that citizens can do in. That is figure out how to vote. You know don't if Vermont of course, we have very good system secretary condos did a great job with the mail and voting. So we don't have the challenge here. People here believe in voting for. Independence of against Democrats. But in other states where there are obstacles of I'm encouraging Mike Congressional colleagues to encourage their citizens to Maybe vote early go down of the town clerk and file your ballot in advance. So, you don't get stuck in these long lines that really a frustrating and dangerous for on election day. so legislatively. The right to vote. But individually a citizens we've got to be wary of obstacles that in some states per being constructed by folks who don't want us to vote. Listener online defend bucks free just a couple minutes left what what's on your mind. I'm. We. As a state and I've been waiting for decades. We should fund and figure out Internet because we don't have it.
"edward snowden" Discussed on The Dave Gram Show on WDEV
"In now you've got total political. Operatives who are head of the Board of governors in the postmaster general themselves that are as in all other cases with president trump didn't hit many of his people doing his bidding and the bidding right now is president trump's agenda to slow down mail in voting which he sees as a threat to his reelection. In every American should have the opportunity to vote in and I believe vote by mail do it safely. So that approaches adding politics where is directly affecting the right of citizens to vote not just the old days where it was the patronage. Well. The Postal Service, it seems to me also is a to. Sort of a measure. Of how well your society works I mean the idea that governments are going to be in the postal business is not unique to the United States and is not unique to the last couple of centuries it's been. You know it's been around a long time and I'm wondering. do you see this as? A. Real sort of questions about. The fundamentals of government here. I mean it just strikes me as an incredible breakdown. Well it does. What what is unique about the trump administration is not his conservative or policies. It's not his economic policies, even his advocacy of tax cut which I don't think help their economy. With unique about president trump is the attacks these institutions that we all need all of us need. We all need to post office. If you're a veteran that you need to have your prescription delivered, you need your prescription delivered and it's not something that you need. If you're a Republican or Democrat, you need a decent postal system If you're a farmer in Iowa who's ordering chicks and they arrived dead, that's a bad postal system. So the postal system traditionally has been a service it's been seen as a service. To all citizens it's also had incredible import to rural America in Vermont as the most rural state in our country. So to unravel that institution in the name of stopping voting because you don't like it, that's the step that is unique to the kind of approach. The president takes to our institutions. You know in the Environmental Protection Agency, we've lost like a thousand scientists it can't even do its job. So that. Approach that the president has it is most alarming to me. is his intent on discrediting and unraveling are institutions including the post office as opposed to improving them and holding them accountable and making them better for the benefit of all Americans citizens. Looking at the case of the Postal Service or other government institutions that have been undermined. Last few years Let's imagine for a moment that. Joe Biden is elected commonly Harris. They are elected president and vice president. November. Take Office in. January. How long would it take? Do you think as a member of the oversight committee? For these government functions to kind of be restored to normal. Well I, think it would take a while because you re staff but I think what can happen right away is you can renew what has been a bipartisan commitment to professionalism integrity within our governmental institutions. You know with the president, he's attacking like the intelligence community tacking law enforcement's attacking the FBI we've never had that before me whether it was a Republican or Democratic president there's always been in acknowledgement that frustrating is it is sometimes to deal with a big governmental institution. That has a role in the job of the president executive is to try to improve that. So it can function better on behalf of the American people that's not the trump agenda. So if you return. With the new president to what has been a bipartisan commitment to try to make our institutions work for our people. I think that can renew the the vitality. Those institutions are pretty quickly, but there's GONNA be some rebuilding to do because many of them have been hollowed out. All the people who've left the State Department because of the politicization by Pompeo all the people who've left And and law enforcement agencies. That's a real loss where when you lose really good personnel, you just don't hire someone off the street to fill in and. Fill that gap twenty years of experience. Let's say. So we'll have our work cut out for us but I think the principle we can establish immediately. You mentioned the the president's attacks on the intelligence services of the United States. There are some folks through who think that they are not above criticism in fact, Later on in the program, be talking to Vermont attorney named Dave Kelly who has been following closely through the years the Edward Snowden case note and of course. was. caught up in twenty thirteen in this issue where he actually exposed some. Dealings by the National Security Agency. Efforts to essentially survey people, People's phone records by the millions all around the country. And a court just ruled last week that that effort by the National Security Agency was illegal now snowden. Still hiding out Russia. He's not cleared of his own criminal problems in this matter but. He. He's basically been at least partially vindicated. It seems I'm wondering. Do, you think that there is still there are still problems along those lines I mean where are we in terms of our of our overall profile on on intelligence out there Well. The answer is, yes I do I. Think you know I serve as you know on the Intelligence Committee and our job is to do oversight. And I think it's absolutely essential that we hold. All our agencies including intelligence and law enforcement accountable. and. There has to be vigorous oversight because there's no question. that..
"edward snowden" Discussed on The Dave Gram Show on WDEV
"Vermont, it's the Dave Graham show on wd. It's your show about the people places and the issues that matter the most view. Now, here's your host Dave Graham. Good Morning Vermont. Tuesdays and timber the eighth twenty twenty year in Vermont where you're getting. Back to school today, this is the day that the governor declared some weeks. AGO would be the start of school most schools originally planned to start earlier than this but because it was determined that more coronavirus planning was needed a little bit extra time was given for school administrators, teachers, staff etcetera. To get ready for today but today is finally here i. wish everyone the best of luck and good health and getting. Back into some, some degree of normalcy would be really really nice. We We are just hoping that's. That's what we're doing maybe the more religious among a prion but. All of that stuff. For more of please. Anyway we're GONNA be talking the first half hour this morning with Congressman Peter Welch about various goings on in Washington including his. His. Head looking into along with other members of Congress this latest. Scandal is he got In the trump administration involving the postmaster general Louis to Joy North Carolina. Politician and fundraiser for the Republican Party apparently was. Allegedly, anyway according to a Washington Post investigation was pressuring employees at his previous company. To make donations to Republican candidates and. Then was reimbursing them in the form of bonuses. That they would get in addition to their regular pay for working for this company in. North Carolina. And that's a no no. Under campaign finance law you're not supposed to do that. So we'll be talking with congressman, Walter about that as well as other issues that are percolating along, we want to get an update on whether there's any hope. For passage of this Heroes Act which would be the follow on Corona virus aid package that the US House passed away back in June maybe late me somewhere in there and the Senate has not done anything with it other than stall and delay and. So the house is. Still pushing but. Seeing headlines now indicating that hopes are dimming for passage of this round two of coronavirus funding in it. So there's a big issue here Vermont where the legislature is trying to finalize a state budget. This week they were hoping for is significant shot of federal aid to help with that work and It appears that nothing really can be counted on at least as of today. Now, you'd never know things could break a whole different way tomorrow. But or by the end of the week or sometime in the not too distant future. But we are. Always Hope Springs Eternal I. Guess maybe that's one way to describe the situation. Anyway, we'll be talking with Congressman Walter about some of those issues in this first half hour in the second half hour we're going to shift gears and talk about apples and. Of course with all coming here in Vermont. Apples in a number three crop in the state behind dairy end Maple Syrup as agricultural products from Vermont and we're GONNA. Be Talking about the outcrop and it's looking good from what I understand. So that'll be good and then later on discussion with Vermont Attorney David Kelly about the Edward Snowden case which had an important attorney last week with a new court really we'll get into that in the second hour of the program I do believe we now have Congressman Peter Welch with us and Congressman thank you very much for joining me this morning. Thank you. And I wish you a happy September I. Hope you had a good. Somewhat restful Labor, day, weekend, and ready to get ready for. The fall campaign and all the goings on coming up and one thing I understand is that you have been. Watching closely this whole situation involving. The Nation's postmaster general. What's going on with? Lose the joy from your understanding. Well first of all, it was a great Labor Day weekend and you know this is back to school day and got to say I just I'm thinking about for my parents who were juggling. trying to stay at work or work at home and get their kids safely back into school, and this is a huge challenge for our teachers, our administrators and our parents. So you know we're in good. We've were in relatively good shape in Vermont with the virus US everybody taking it very seriously but going back to school is essential you know I know a lot of stress for for my parents and educators. So everybody well. The Post Office. situation it's really pretty outrageous. I mean essentially. WanNa. Give a little background here. Postal Services about service is not about politics. It's about delivering the mail. It's about getting prescriptions to veterans. I mean, most of the veterans who have prescriptions through the Va get them via mail, it's about getting baby checks to farmers so they can make an income by. Raising them and in in in selling and selling aches and. In nineteen seventy. President Nixon signed the postal reform. act. Where it was very explicit we were taken politics out of the post office that changed with President trump in two things happened one. he appointed. The head of the Board of Governors is a guy named John Dunkin. And on his web on the Postal Service website, he brags that his accomplishments, the race four, hundred, twenty, nine, million dollars for the Republican National Committee and then secondly, this Louis Joy. is very successful businessman we're power to. But in the five years leading up to his appointment, he gave three point one million dollars to Republican candidates to the trump reelection to the Republican National Committee, and there's also information that is now going to be investigated. That, he basically pressured people who work for him to make a significant contributions in order for him obviously to curry favor. And the action he took. Two when he became postmaster general. Where to slow down the mail? He started sending trucks out demanding they leave quote on time even though they were empty. Of, insanity? he removed a lot of of the postal sorting machines which are essential to the fast processing, a male, and then we've seen the stories about male slowing down. And of course, this totally coincided. With president trump's unfounded allegations that mail in voting is corrupt. There's no evidence for that whatsoever. Americans Republicans Democrats independents one vote by mail or should have that option. Corona virus situation. So the hearing we had in the oversight committee. Just revealed these incredible links between Dunkin and joy and the political future of president trump and that's completely in violation of what the Nixon bill was to take the politics out of the Post. Message animals position. You know the history here had there been a lot of politics in in in the postal service up until Nixon. Signed that bill into law. Well there was, yeah, there was a lot of politics. The postmaster general assignment was very plum job in JFK for instance, appointed Larry O'Brien who is his campaign manager, but the politics that were associated with the post master's job had to do with the power that the postmaster general had to give out chops like to be the postmaster in Burlington or the postmaster in Hartland. Okay. So jobs associated with it, but it never got politicized to the point where it was used as a tool to try to thwart voting. So it's gone from what was ineffective patronage opportunity that was used by both parties up until nineteen seventy and then that got taken out..
Football Leaks trial to start in Portugal
"Is due to begin today in Portugal of a computer hacker who leaked the documents exposing dubious deals involving top football clubs, agents and players. Rui Pinto's Football League's Web site release large numbers of secret documents that triggered criminal investigations into leading players in several countries. The face is 90 criminal charges, including computer fraud, attempted extortion and violating privacy of correspondence. Listen, Roberts reports from Lisbon. Why Pinto faces 90 charges, including attempted extortion relating to the computer hacking of the Lisbon Football Club, sporting the Portuguese Football Federation and the office of the attorney general. The 31 year old hacker was in prison on remand for over a year before being transferred to house arrest and then last month released after agreeing to collaborate on other cases. Among witnesses called by the defense in this case are the head of Portugal's criminal investigation. Police and the US whistleblower Edward Snowden, one
Rui Pinto Football Leaks trial starts in Portugal
"A trial is due to begin today in Portugal of a computer hacker who leaked the documents exposing dubious deals involving top football clubs, agents and players. Rui Pinto's Football League's Web site, release large numbers of secret documents that triggered criminal investigations into leading players in several countries. He faces 90 criminal charges, including computer fraud, attempted extortion and violating privacy of correspondence. Listen, Roberts reports from Lisbon. Pipin to faces 90 charges, including attempted extortion relating to the computer hacking of the Lisbon Football Club, sporting the Portuguese Football Federation and the office of the attorney general. The 31 year old hacker was in prison on remand for over a year before being transferred to house arrest and then last month released after agreeing to collaborate on other cases. Among witnesses called by the defense in this case are the head of Portugal's criminal investigation, Police and the US whistleblower Edward Snowden.
Virginia Becomes First State to Try Covidwise Pandemic App From Apple, Google
"The first Bluetooth exposure notification APP has launched in Virginia and it's called covert. Wise. The APP uses Bluetooth chirps to detect if you've been in close contact with someone who has tested positive while it's very easy to use or to really be effective in needs widespread adoption. Jeffrey Fowler Tech Columnist at The Washington Post joins us for this useful APP with very little privacy risk. Thanks for joining US Jeffrey. Wanted to talk about this APP out of Virginia, it's called COVID. Wise. It's an exposure notification APP using Bluetooth on your phone. So you might have some other contact tracing APPs with regards to corona virus. One is a Little Different Your Bluetooth sends out pins basically, and if you've come into contact with somebody for more than fifteen minutes and you're within six feet distance, the APP might tell you you've been exposed then you can go get a test all that. Usually we bring you on on the PODCAST Jeff, we're talking about privacy with apps and things like that, and in this case you've kind. Of, run. This thing through many tests and you've kind of come to the conclusion that your privacy really is an at risk and it would actually be a benefit if people were a lot of people downloaded this thing so we can try to keep this thing under control. So Jeff, tell us a little bit about covert wise and the tests you ran through it and what your conclusions were. Nobody was more surprised than me. The big problems that a lot of these APPs and the idea of using our phones to help track exposure to the coronavirus has had is that people frankly just don't trust tech companies and they just don't trust the government and I can't blame you companies have done very little to earn that trust and Edward Snowden taught us all that the government really can't be trusted either. But that said when Google and apple this. Spring got together and said, Hey, they thought that they had figured out a way to make our phones useful for figuring out if we were exposed to some of krona virus I was intrigued because they said they were going to build it from the ground up with privacy in mind. So we finally got the first of these in the US in the state of Virginia Colbert wise and it came out earlier in August and it was there I was like. We gotTA test. We got to see if they really live up to the promises and from everything we've been able to tell so far from our testing I've had thirty five colleagues at the post to live in Virginia and they're all testing for me. We learn two things. First thing we learned is that that doesn't seem to be really much of a privacy risk here these APPs Bluetooth to communicate to phones nearby they don't collect your location they don't. Send information about where you've been a her you've been in contact with to the government. It's actually a pretty clever system looked under the hood as well. Just just to double check they weren't sending out more information than than they claim and they work. That was the first thing. The second thing we learned is we still don't know actually this idea is going to work very well, those thirty five Washington Post colleagues who were testing them none of them got. -cation from this APP over a ten day period. Now, that could be for many reasons. It could be like they were just being really good at social distancing. It means that not many people around them. We're using it or it could mean that there's some problems with the idea that the phones can do this. But only way we're going to really figure that out is if a lot more people try it and that's one of the interesting parts experts estimate that up to sixty percent of the population needs to be using these exposure apps for them to. Be. Effective. So in Virginia that means they need about five million people to download it. But in its first weeks, covert wise got three hundred and eighty thousand downloads so very far short of that number needed. But there's other things that are kind of become a problem with this is in Virginia just by itself, but there's no big national system. So say you travel between states just whatever you come into contact with somebody else maybe using a different APP it's not this cold wise one. You know it's not all going to work. So seamlessly America's APP expeditionary. Strategy suffers from. Some of the same problems as the rest of our coronavirus strategy and that it's very local based very steep based. So as it set up right now in the United States, every state health department would have to make their own version of one of these APPs fads expressed any interest even though in other countries, it is kind of national government that's been working on these kinds of APPs. The good news is that about twenty states? Now have said that they're working on these kinds of Virginia three more joint it. So we already four out there in the wild and has been announced and effort that would make these absolute communicate with each other a little bit so that you could cross state borders with it. So that's a work in progress but not there yet,
Trump says he will look 'very strongly' at granting pardon to whistleblower Edward Snowden
"Snowden may be able to stop hiding out in Russia President Donald Trump's considering pardoning the former NSA contractor who's been in Russia. It's leaking intel that said, the U. S government buying honest, I mean, I'm not that aware of the Snowden situation, but I was looking at it. There are many, many people. It seems to be a split decision that many people think that hey, should be somehow created differently, and other people think he did very bad things and I'm going to take a very good look at it. In 2016 the president said he thought Snowden is a traitor, and he would deal with him harshly.
Trump wants to ban Tik Tok
"Actually let's talk a little bit about Tick Tock today I performed this morning. An Act of rebellion. I downloaded installation talk on my iphone because who knows how much longer I'll be able to do it it's very confusing I don't know what's going on. Tick Tock, which is owned by the Chinese company Bite Dance Safest that committee. Or foreign investment in the United. States apparently is investigating I. Think they actually issued a ruling saying that like, wow away tick tock was a threat to the United States One of the ways tiktok became really big as by acquiring a couple years ago musically, which is really I think from what I see on. tiktok kind of the backbone of what Tick Tock is these days, which is lip synching or acting or dancing to an original track It's it's very entertaining. It's a it's probably the most engaging social network out there. But apparently, it's a threat to our way of life. On Friday the president on Air Force One. said that he was about to ban it as soon as yesterday. From the United States I'm not sure under what law safest can do it I think. But I don't know if the president can by executive order banning application. then for the last week Microsoft Been. Negotiating to buy the American rights to talk to kind of create a tick tick Tock America that would be separate from the Chinese bite. Dance. TIKTOK. But then the president says I'M GONNA ban it but I don't want anybody to buy it. So, micro-. Microsoft said. Threw their hands off and said figure it out and there. They didn't end the conversation with bite dance. Apparently, they were fairly close but they're not forwarding it until they find out what happens I'm GonNa make a prediction. Nothing is going to happen except now people are going to download and use TIKTOK. Brianna is tick tock a threat to national security. It's not a unique threat to national security. We need to have a conversation about the kinds of information social media APPS are able to download from our phones. We all remember the scandals of facebook on android downloading your tire phone list gang everyone you've ever called. We need to have a conversation about that, but there's there's really no evidence that what Tiktok is pulling is any greater than what you know facebook instagram these other social media sites are. Pulling so far. So we need a wider discussion about that. How's it just want to say I wish I could tell you this was just trump in the Republicans that would make me very happy. My heart broke today to see Chuck Schumer on the Sunday morning shows advocating the same thing tech talk. So you know it's it is we need to have a conversation about national security and the amount of information were giving up but it's I think. To just focus on TIKTOK. Sign of. Phobia. Or Zena Phobia Paris, you seem like a Tiktok user. I that's only because you're younger than. I. Did recently re downloaded when this whole. Wanted to make sure that I had it. I'm sure is a common response. I agree with everything the Brown said in the sense that I don't know I've been particularly disturbed by. The reactions to take talks, data collection both from the left and right and just. Experts in the tech field generally over the past couple of months because it is definitely coming from a place of seeing phobia. I mean, we have so many different. American. Made APPS that. Do many of the same things I mean one thing that I've seen noted quite often as to talk has the ability to see what you've. You know copied near Clipboard when guests so do most of the apps you have on your phone. Is Operatives. It's not a tiktok specific problem. This came up because of Iowa's fourteen, which is in public Beta now so people are suddenly using it and dozens of applications. I. Think must be a library that they all subscribe to infect somebody a couple of weeks ago. Somebody told me that it was. Ad Library I use of what a clearly noninvasive program from panic software Call Code editor, which lets me log into my Server. with SSh and and edit files and things like that and it was. I got the same thing that you get on Iowa's fourteen O, coders looking clipboard every time I typed to character. Now I don't think coded only panic software famous for an FTP program and this H. Program is at spying on me obviously, they're not. they're using the same code library. So it's a, it's a, it's a bug. That's what Lincoln Microsoft's linked in said as well. So. I think it's also just one of those things where if you're building an APP especially in. The Tom I. Don't know there was a time when absence of for being built were there wasn't this conversation about security and privacy. Why would map designers not take the position of? Yeah. All the things maybe we'll need that information talk said quite credibly. We're just looking to see if you put a url on your clipboard so we can pasted in. That seems credible I. Don't know if you need to do it every single time I type of character that seems like more that book I can tell you firsthand from developing an Iowa it's often easiest just to get it submitted to the APP store to take a bunch of permissions and It's just it's like you're trying to debugging in. Store, to accept it is just quirky. I can't tell you how many times I in other APP developers have. Just it's a very, very quirky system. So I, think this is just in Beta. I think it's really important to point out as far as the impetus for this I personally do not think it's a coincidence that tiktok was widely credited for disrupting trump's Tulsa rally a couple of weeks ago and Sarah Cooper is so famous for she's making five star she's she's amazing and those videos are brutal to trump and I I don't. That's a coincidence. She does trump limps licks lip sync. And I was talking to a friend said you know is the trump on TV I can't understand what he's saying but then I watched Cooper and that makes sense Sarah ads expressions and Gestures and all kinds of makes sense all of us and so I don't think the president should be so quick to to not like Sarah purchase he's adding context Might have something to do with it certainly in his mind because we know. You know. I don't know what he's going to do to Cape Pop stands because they were the other the other group that apparently figured out that you could register took on trump's team has got to be wise enough to know you can't take on the capons stands. Being. The capon stands the United States would crumble. Yes. That would be it would be over right. You just can't win against the K pop stands So. They were both advocating people sign up for the Tulsa Rally and not not show and Honestly the fault lies with Brad Par Scout trump's former campaign manager and his campaign team for believing all those registrations and building a giant outdoor stage. Giant parking lot so that the millions of people who are going to be coming because they all registered would have somewhere to be, and then I loved. Well, I shouldn't say that that sounds partisan was interesting to see the one person with the baby stroller in that giant area and the rest of the arena half full or third full So I could see why he might be a little angry about that. Is there. No, Matt. And I'm not putting you in the position of speaking for the government I want to say that in fact, we should have said that. That Nazi for the. Federal government but you also having worked Akiko Google you understand how you know a little bit about how this stuff works the the there's not any proof that while way for instance, has ever done anything. Particularly Evil they've done some commercial espionage apparently, but nothing could particularly evil but there's the potential if they run the entire five G. Network that at some point, they could inject malicious software to the network or shut it down. Is What could Even even sounds stupid asking it. What could take time do? It's the forbidden APP. If you think about it if you don't have it on your phone, it could disappear at any time. No I think it's it's less about that although you do see companies like Amazon saying, Hey, on your work phone or work device please don't install. And they did it. Because they realize Oh we do business with these guys. Let's not this them off but wells Fargo did that I think the Department of Defense I don't know about you sds, but it's reasonable if you've got a company phone. Probably shouldn't have facebook or instagram on it either you right? Yeah. I keep my twitter and all that stuff very far away from work phone. It's my it's my personal account, but you know it's I can understand why people want to have just a a sense of okay. Let's be careful. Let's see what's going on and then You know just making sure that you can depend on the. Tools all the way down reflections on trusting trust. You can put things into a compiler, which then you can remove it from the source code and turns out that thing can stay in the compiler for years and years and years. So you know you don't WanNa be load bearing on any particular technology that you can't quite vouch for his guesses what people are thinking, what would be the legal? How could a president ban an APP in the United States I was thinking about this in the one thing the United States government is very effective at is We we we went after Isis in I sell at a very effective way instead of this Ip address to a recruitment site you can't access it. So my my guess would be the executive order would basically grafter the ISP's and say you can't go to this particular ISP but think about that I know of VPN products is sponsor show sponsored mind and to know how few seconds would take the average teenager together VPN account to just keep their tiktok going. Yesterday I downloaded the tiktok cap the first video that came up credit account 'cause I forgot my previous password was a if Tiktok it's banned. Here's how to get around it. You don't Vpn you can go into the settings, your phone, change your country of origin to Canada and then You're great. Exactly I mean it's not enforceable basically So I mean one thing Leo I think. Matt and I would probably agree that we do need to. I don't know if it's more oversight from the point of sale like on the APP store or Google play I I don't know if it's kind of an External Code audit policy for these kinds of APPs on their own by countries I. Think we agree we we need more oversight and we need to make sure all of these are not stealing data from people and just to get people very brief history lesson you know Edward Snowden had some very serious allegations about our own spying agencies using. Facebook to gather intelligence on people all around the world there's evidence for that. There's no hard evidence at this point the Tiktok is doing any of this. So if we're serious about doing this, the answer isn't to further balkanize the United States from the rest of the world the answers to form coalitions with other countries say look if you're going to operate here in, you know if you're gonNA have the software operating in our country here, the rule you have to follow you can't just arbitrarily download people's Phone books, there's going to be You know civil fights. That's clearly the way to go is got to be bigger than just tiktok. I'm just looking at Tick Tock on my iphone. It has access to my photos because I gave it access to my photo so I could put a profile picture on there. it gives me notifications I could turn that off. That's that's a push though that's not a poll. Background APP refresh means it can run in the background and cellular data doesn't ask for. location data doesn't ask for I mean facebook asks for ten times more. That's why I don't have it on my phone. I. mean the worst thing Tiktok does is waste millions of hours a productivity, and maybe that's a recent ban I don't know. But I, just I don't understand how it could be used. If it's not getting location permissions, how could it be used maliciously and I think it is getting location position. I know that I've know anecdotally at least from a couple of friends whenever they let's say go to Connecticut to visit family or something they will suddenly get Connecticut. Themed Tiktok content or something similar. Okay. that could just be from. Connection you can get that from the IP address so they could get a Geo location through IP address without asking APP without telling apple that they're doing that that would make sense. Okay. So they're getting them. Every cannon probably, I hate to say it probably does do that.
Europe's Top Court Strikes Down Key Rules Of U.S.-EU Data Transfer
"In a major case, surrounding data privacy Europe's top court has invalidated the privacy shield. An EU US framework used to transfer personal data across the Atlantic. The ruling came in a clash between facebook. An Australian privacy activists Max Trams who has challenged the tech giants handling of EU citizens data ever since Edward Snowden spine revelations in two thousand thirteen, while the ruling does not mean an immediate halt to all data transfers outside the U. The court upheld the validity of standard contractual clauses. Two processors established in third countries scrutiny over data transfers will be ramped up a new system also have to be implemented, which guarantees that European data is afforded the same standard of privacy protection in the US.
EU court invalidates data-sharing pact with US
"The European union's top court has ruled that an agreement that allows a big tech companies to transfer data to the U. S. is invalid and that national regulators it needs take tougher action to protect users data the ruling doesn't mean an immediate halt to old data transfers outside the EU there is another legal mechanism that some companies can use but it means that the scrutiny over data transfers will be ramped up and that the EU and the US may have to find a new system that guarantees that Europeans data is afforded the same protection in the US as it is in the E. U. the case began after former US National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden revealed in two thousand and thirteen that the American government was snooping on people's online data and communications center shockingly London
The surprising danger that deepfakes pose to the presidential elections
"Deep fakes. Those digital manipulated videos. That look scary. Real pose a threat to the upcoming presidential election. Real danger will surprise you. I'm Roger Chang and this is your daily charge me reporter John Salesman. Thanks for joining me Joan. Yeah it's great to be back on the daily charge so we've all heard of deep fix but you don't think there's actually a real risk in say candid footage of Joe Biden. Donald trump actually saying something crazy and swing voters. What's real danger deep fix with this election? The Deepak experts that I talk to yes. They said that they're not most worried about a candidate depict like that like something where Donald Trump or Joe Biden is admitting to a hot button. Crime or saying something really inflammatory with. They're more concerned about are two things. One is known as the Liars Dividend. And that's this concept that as more people know that the fakes exists that there can be these completely false highly realistic out there. It gives people who are caught in the act and are guilty more credibility when they deny something when they denial legit video by saying. Oh you heard deep fix. You can't trust what you see anymore. And that just muddies the waters and makes it harder for people to understand and trust what is truth. And what is fiction? Yeah that's that sounds very dangerous because that's like it damages the credibility of basically everything right. Because if you could point to this one thing is oh see this fake. It applies to everything essentially right. Yeah it makes it harder. You know we. Our brains have been wired for so long to believe what we see. And we've learned to you. Know as Photoshop came along and as other sorts of media manipulation have come a long. We've been able to catch up and at least be more skeptical of those but because video is tricking your eyes and your ears because the AI that powers depicts is so sophisticated and so good and making things look real. That's really really deep wiring in your brain telling you all these signals like trust this. Trust this trust this and so when people start saying. Hey you can't trust that anymore. It just means that it's harder for anyone to understand what's even real and speaking of the AI aspect of things you have a nice breakdown of how deep fix work like how how are these videos created defects are created by a kind of artificial intelligence called Ganz that's short for generative adversarial networks and the the the basic way that they work is they have to neural networks. Networks are a kind of learning. That's based on how the kind of inspired by how the brain works so imagine that these two neural networks are actually an artist and an art critic and they're locked in rooms right next to each other. The artist creates a painting trying to make something that looks like a masterpiece. And he shuffles that painting into a stack of other paintings that actually are works by the go or we're in war or whatever they take that stack moving into art critics room and art critic picks out which ones he thinks are a forgeries. The ones that aren't the real masterpieces. That feedback goes back to the artists and the artists gets better and better and better at figuring out how to make a really convincing fake masterpiece up to the point where he's able to he or she is able to. This artificial neural network is able to make something that can trick the critic into thinking that what is fake is actually real. That's how these sort of artificial intelligence systems work. So I mean that sounds complicated by no love this kind of working superfast background but how easy is it for someone to actually make a deep? Do It depends what kind of deep lake we're talking about. You know there are open source tools to make the kind of celebrity face swaps the Elon. Musk sauna babies had sort of thing. They're open source tool sick at that. They're not as easy. Those aren't as easy to make us like a meam or an animated Gif. You need to have technological savvy Know How to get. You need to have a pretty powerful computer you need. Large data sets unique things. That are more difficult than like making taking a photo putting some white text on it of course so those are berry accessible with are kind of acceptable. But what we're talking about here talking about election defects now. These are the kind of things all the experts that I talked to say. You know we have a lower hurdle to suspend disbelief when we're looking at Elon. Musk space on a baby. But when you're presented with a video of a candidate for president or the president of the United States we have a luckily human beings. Have they kind of set a higher bar that you have to clear to actually believe that it's true so what that means is kind of very sophisticated high end e fix that would threaten on election? Those are really reserved for people that work at universities or research centres powerful computers or state actors that have that kind of computing power like China at their disposal. So the idea here. That Kennedy fakes are less of a risk. Like what are some of the defects? We should be worried about what people are more worried about aren't necessarily these candidates it's more an a deep lake that attacks your faith in the election rather than your trust in a candidate so instead of having what are the reasons is at the state in our political discourse where we're very divided. I think everyone agrees that we're divided and our our opinions seem more entrenched than they had before and so in that environment it's harder to convince or sway voters either way with a fake video. You know like if you were to make a video of Donald Trump's hair flying off or something like it will only solidify your beliefs if you liked on trump you'll be like that's a fake. I like Donald Trump. Even more. If you don't like him you'll be like he looks Tom. I dislike them even more. And so a more cunning way to use a deep fake to disrupt the US election would be to create a deep fake of say like an authoritative news anchor or a governor or authority. Figure who not as many people know saying things like. We're in the age of Kobe. Nineteen we have marsh. It's two days before election martial law. You cannot go to your polling place or to create like news. Anchors saying there There are you know there are some sort of you. Know armed militants some sort of supremacists or militants. That are arming themselves. Going to polling places in a specific neighborhood these kind of people need to be scared about showing up to vote and in that way you can suppress votes and you can also after the vote undermine people's faith in the result if you have an authoritative figure saying something about how we have footage of vote-switching from trump to Biden That could so this sort of distrust not only in going to the election but after the election in the results themselves. That's an interesting point because it's it's not necessarily like a defect that would make Joe Biden. Say something like I killed the spurs like this is these are actually kind of believable is right. I think that's your point like this is a lot more coming. It's lot a lot more nuance but I think. That's what makes the lila easier to swallow the fact that it is all what you're saying. It's pretty plausible sounded. Yeah and the other thing to keep in mind. Is that a candidate. Deep fake would. It's kind of like this Yin and Yang. Were like the the head of the snake is eating the tail like a candidate. D. Fake would only be successful if it basically goes viral and lots of people see it right but when it goes viral. One thing that the. Us has say what you will about the US press core. We have a robust free Press we have a robust free press entrenched in our country other countries where there are dictatorships or more emerging democracies. They don't have that quite at their disposal as much as we do. So if a candidate of the president or Joe Biden were to come out. We do have the capacity here built into our democracy to have a force of people trying quickly as possible. To debunk it. Whereas if you were somebody that wanted to make a deep fake that could actually just robbed or suppress boats. It would be more successful if it doesn't go viral if it's not something that draws the attention of an entire press corps. That's entirely focused on this on this election. And so and that way could also kind of be the most successful not going viral kind of existing on the radar enough to disrupt people in say one or two counties that are really important in a swing states. And that wouldn't draw the attention of a national press corps debunk it well defects captial of tension and headlines is really just sort of one way to manipulate the Info right like this. We're looking at it a little bit too narrow. If we're just focusing on defects is that is that the case. Yeah you know. It's it makes sense that people would be scared of depicts because you know as we talked about earlier it. It undermines the species assumption. That if I see it I can believe it. And so that's why. There's a lot of fear around deep fakes and what they could pinch the harm that could potentially cause but the reality is you know because of some of these things we talked before about. How really sophisticated deep picks are still inaccessible to a wide right of people? That's not true for like you said memes for slowing down video like the Pelosi sounding drunk video that went viral. Those are kinds of media manipulations. Sometimes people refer to them as shallow fakes or cheap. Fix that have the power of being cheap easy and still incredibly effective. And so. That's why you know. One of the Edward Snowden slayer. Aclu lawyer this comparison. He said that you know looking at election information manipulation by only looking at depict looking at it through a straw. You're just not seeing. You're seeing something really scary. But you're not seeing the much. Bigger picture of how things could be disrupted in twenty twenty oxygen. Russia played a big role in. You know clouding the two thousand sixteen elections with misinformation disinformation. And you know you talked about how it takes a lot of resources for these fakes to be effective. Obviously Russia's a country with a lot of resources like should we should we be worried about Russia antiques. Well so I talked to one expert on the national security locations of depicts his. Name's Clint Watts. He testified to Congress. He testified to senators about just the sort of thing and he says you know anything's possible but Russia and their disinformation tactics. They are more skilled at the art of this information than they are at the science of deep fakery so they although anything's possible. Russia has lots of oil money could always who knows what Russia could do. But he's more interested in the potential in China or other places China in particular as a place. Where China has you know. They have supercomputers I think Stephen Shanklin expert on nonstop. He always has that but I think they have. More supercomputers than we have in the US or whatever compute they've got lots of supercomputers which is important for making the takes no for sure beyond supercomputers they've invested heavily artificial intelligence. The one leads in the world in a appear that neural network. That's that stuff is a recipe for a lot of potential problems. Down the line. Yeah in China they have completely synthetic television personalities like deep fake news anchors so that a very authoritative anchor can report on something without actually take time out of his day to report on it The fact that a country like that if if they wanted to do that then they could They are the ones that are in the best position to create a deep fake That would disrupt global geopolitics. But you know. State actors could create other kinds of deep fakes. That could cause other kinds of problems. Those are in the world so you know it's just doomsday scenario. No matter how you look at it well that's that's glorious and very positive Just lastly I mean I think we can all figure out that Elon. Musk is not really a baby. But are there giving advice for for like how despotic fake. Or or just a you know how to be a little bit more vigilant when looking at some of the content that surfaces around the web. Yeah so I asked everyone. I talk to you all the extra Saturday. I asked this question. And there's no silver bullet like little loophole that you can find for understanding it's fake For debunking it on your own. If it's a real deep fake than your eyes won't save you like watching it. You won't be able to tell that it's like that's the whole point of a defense that it's an AI. Created where the power of this artificial intelligence outstrips like. Our brains are very attuned human faces. But they're not so fast that they can keep up with how well deep fake technology can progress. And so you know. We don't have computers in our brains that are as powerful as supercomputers at research universities So the advice for normal people that are like hey how do I even know of this fake? It really comes down to like basic hygiene about what you're exposed to if you see a video and it seems like it's so outlandish that it couldn't be true than might not be and if you see a video that is clearly something trying to appeal to some person some segments inflammatory instincts. That's also reason to be skeptical defects just mean. Everyone needs to do what we should be doing with other kinds of manipulated media slowdown. And think before you share. It's hard to do and it's even harder when we're talking about deep ix but it's just as important to act that way what you're presented with a really realistic video as you would be if you presented with a mean or like a cheap slowed down video of a drunk. Nancy Pelosi Right. Yeah well. That's good advice in general whether it's an article or D do a little bit of Homework. Thinks through what you're actually looking at
Kishore Mahbubani says COVID-19 won't stop China's rise
"These days for China there's been an economic slowdown a trade and technology war with America. One of the few issues of bipartisanship in today's Washington then there have been protests in Hong Kong global criticism of Beijing's treatment of the Muslim minorities not to mention Western anxiety about the role of Y in those five G. networks and don't forget the allegations of Chinese interference in sovereign states across the region. Add to this. The outbreak of corona virus or covered nineteen and silently some pundits and they mainly in the West. They're asking whether we're witnessing communist China's Chernobyl moment what do you think well one distinguished intellectual who profoundly disagrees with all this skepticism. He's my guest today. Kishore Mahbubani is distinguished fellow. The Asia Research Institute at the National University of Singapore a former ambassador to the UN twice and a former foreign secretary of Singapore case. Your has risen several influential books on Asia and the rise of China the lightest one is called has China won the Chinese challenge to American Promessi as published by public phase in New York Keisha. Welcome back between the lines. My pleasure there'd be back now you've heard all these. These dial warnings about China and as I say they mainly come from listeners. What do you disagree well? I think it's absolutely certain that the return of China to his place as the number one economy in the world cannot be stopped because from the year one to the eighteen twenty or eighteen hundred of the last two thousand years the two largest economies of the world were always those of China and India so the past two hundred years of Western domination award. History have been an aberration. All aberrations come to a natural end and China's return cannot be stopped. And that's absolutely set. You say in your book that if Xi Jingping does not put in place San Succession mechanisms. America could win this geopolitical contest and bear in mind just a couple years ago. She overturned legislation on. Term Limits for presidents essentially might himself later for life. Some of these critics say that. How does that promote good governance for China and a sound succession mechanism? That will allow China to Rosza Unabated well I would say that the history of China has taught them when they have strong central government. The people benefit a lot. When this week government they suffer a lot and you look at a hundred years of humiliation. That China's suffered from the first opium war of Eighteen. Forty two right until the establishment of the People's Republic of China in nineteen forty nine. The main reason why they went through one hundred years of humiliation was because they had weak central government so what Xi Jinping has given to China is once again very strong central government this is an asset for China. I think he's going to be around as Vita for a long time. And as long as he's around. I think China will do very well. Okay will you say that this geopolitical contest that's broken out between America and China? That will continue marathon. Rice does that mean that Beijing and Washington a doomed to confrontation. Well the the reason why. I'm producing my book now. Has China one his precisely because I want to avoid a confrontation in my. I think it's absolutely unnecessary for the United States and China to get entangled in this confrontation because at the end of the day the primary goal of the United States government is to improve the wellbeing of the American people than the best way to improve the well being of the American people especially in this call. The crisis is to work with China and not work against China but of course unfortunately the United States has other goal and is the primary goal of the United States is to maintain primacy in the global order. Then that will lead to confront To leading American proponents of containing China. John Shaw. The University of Chicago Have Stephen. Walt whom you quoted approvingly in your book about the perils of American Hubris and exceptionalism but on China I disagree. They say I've been guests on this program and I've made this point Measham and casual. They say that a rising China does indeed threaten the regional status quo and Washington moreover will and should go to great lengths to ensure that China does not dominate the Asia. Pacific your response. Well I think the question is whether or not they can both live with each other In the region if if the United States by the way you know all the countries in this region many of them one the United States will remain strong player in this region. I think it'd be good for the region to have United States. Remain as strong Leah. By United States can remain a strong player without on fronting China. He can remain a strong player by working with China In in in many critical areas. And frankly if you ask the countries in the region What they would like to see they would like to see a strong China and they would like to see a strong United States. But they don't want to be forced to choose within China and the United States and we'll get to this question about choosing later on in the show but I want to stick with America. There is a consensus in the region. That America should stay but Foreign Affairs magazine. This is the Distinguished New York Journal to Achieve. Contributed this month. It faces a range of top. Foreign Policy Thinkers. They're all weighing on whether or not the. Us is in the process of global retrenchment The cover of Australia's leading Foreign Affairs Journal. This month is is called can trust America So Am I right in saying you? Don't think American showing any signs of withdrawing from Asia. Now I see no signs at all America retreating from the region and And I think that very strong as you know policy in America is to some extent made by the president but is also made by the deep state and the deep state has a very strong consensus that they got to remain very strongly Industry region. So I don't see an American of withdraw anytime in the near future but I do I do argue that the United States has got to behave differently. With China net once had One tenth the size of China's of America's GNP retailers but today China's be GNP BB. Dems is bigger than the United States. So you behave differently. Was this animal. What about that? Animals DASA more assertive. Now in your book and you listening to Katia Mahbubani. We're chatting about his new book. Has China one in your new book as show you dedicate a chapter to the question is China expansionist and you say basically China wants to respect global rules and norms but let's face it. It has ignored the ruling from the UN's Permanent Court of Arbitration. That was at The Hague in two thousand sixteen. The high concluded for those of you listening who've forgotten about this this is four years ago. Chana's conduct around the Scarborough Shoal and the Spratly islands it was illegal and let's remember Beijing has continued to build up a military prisons on artificial Alan's at drive out local fishermen and in the last few months case. Short Sean has been bullying Indonesia over the Natuna islands. How is all this respecting global order? Well you know one point. I emphasize said there were people talk of benevolent. Great Powers Turn Benevolent Grid. Power is an oxymoron. So as you know the United States today has not ratified the law. The Sea Convention. So in in some areas as China emerged behaving exactly the United States. The United States would never accept going to a tribunal to judge whether or not the United States valid or invalid claiming any area in that respect. China is behaving like the United States by just as the United States. Most of the time respects most international rules and conventions China. Also most of the time respects most of international rules in confections in many ways. China's behavior and America's behaviour is very similar in the international arena. Your critics would say that. China's maritime climbs a contested by the Philippines Malaysia Brunei Indonesia Vietnam Beijing has antagonized nations log New Zealand Australia with cyber attacks and and political interference. Nightside casual these. Not Diplomatic Wins for president. She hasn't he made some big mistakes. Well I it's it's it's interesting. It's always the rest. That is screaming very loud on this South China Sea When was the last time you heard a very strong statement from militia All of all of Philippines On the South China Sea. Why you're seeing behind. What is happening behind the scenes is a lot of diplomacy that is not reported in the Western media. Now I cannot comment on the side of the tax on Shelia and New Zealand but I I believe it was Edward Snowden revealed to us that if you live in today's world you can assume that anything you put up. There is being monitored completely by the National Security Agency of the United States. So I think what the world needs is new conventions in the cyber area and the world should work together do agree on some set of rules for what you can or cannot do in terms of cyber hacking spoke with the New Zealand professor. Anne Marie Bridie last week on this program and she told us about three investigations into Chinese interference in politics that a currently underway in New Zealand. But we WANNA go there now and finished your point. I was quite struck by a law in in your book. He sure well. You talked about the Chinese reluctance to conquer Australia quote. Future historians will marvel at the fact that even though Australia is geographically close to China. It was physically. It was physically occupied in conquered by far more distant British forces absolutely true. I mean if China was an expansionist power wrenching. Her travel all the way to Africa. He could have easily gone to Australia. Additional Australia. Remarkable accident of history. That Australia was colonized by British forces than not Chinese. I mean future. Historians will marvel. The anomaly visits Tom Switzer. On our in 'em I guess is Keisha Mahbubani the former foreign secretary of Singapore and President of the UN Security Council. He's now a distinguished fellow at the National University of Singapore. We're talking about his new book. Has China one now for some of Iran's listeners in Venice Matas whether your overstating China's rise and I WANNA put to you this very rule weakness in limitation surely because many analysts They argue that there's a ticking bomb in China it's low birthright and the aging population and this is the argument that will reduce the workforce and could potentially break social security system. How would you respond to those critics? Oh that's absolutely no question. That China faces a lot of serious Internal Challenges. Because you know it is to instill a developing country It's CABBIE DYING IF I get it right. It's still about ten thousand dollars. One-sixth debt of the United States has a long way to go before it becomes fully developed country. And that's precisely why China wants to focus on its internal development and not get dragged into an all-out geopolitical contests with the United States. So you notice that China wherever possible is trying to avoid getting entangled with the United States even though the United States clearly is challenging the United States challenging the United States charging China In many
Edward Snowden And Mass Surveillance At the start of this decade
"A federal judge ruled that proceeds from Edward Jones Memoir permanent record to be paid to the US this government because he violated the terms of his employment contract with the US government in publishing the book. You clearly don't follow me on twitter. You're GONNA love this. I wrote real quickly on twitter. There's so many it's with someone. Summarize twitter perfectly as does not pay. I know I wrote espionage a bitch and I know you don't like it when I used that word and so many people weighed in against against me and it's inspired me and as you to learn more about Edward Stone because a lot of people who unless they're bought as far as I know the Russian show is trying to gain my trust but who seem thoughtful weighed in and said you got this wrong. Edward Snowden is a patriot. It's there's much great podcasts. You could read the book. I'm sending you the the book I am sending you the book I'm going to learn more about Edward Snowden. That's your Christmas present. The free book I got from it again here. We go again and going to give it to me an intermission at cats right anyway. So what I'm GONNA we're going out here. We can't Handy Randy. Who Might Not Randy? Were coming to your show. All right. So Edward Snowden you think he should not be paid for the for the money to go to government because he violated the terms of his employment contract. That's what thank you will be going to be more measured here. I need to learn more about Edward Snowden because a lot of people that I respect said turn got it. Got It wrong on this one. So I'm going to try and learn. Learn more about how a guy decides to state secrets. Shove a thumb drive up his ass and moved to China and Russia's a hero so I'm going to try to understand how that makes my hero but anyways anyways and I'm sure the Russians anything cube there was no shoving with the thumb drive. I'm sorry there was a Rubik's cube that he took in and out so there you have it
Republicans want Hunter Biden and whistleblower to testify
"Usual the whistle blower and former vice president Joe Biden's son hunter Biden are on the list of witnesses house Republicans want to testify in the impeachment inquiry into president Donald Trump that according to The Washington Post the paper reports intelligence committee chair Adam ships not likely to call them meanwhile the debate over whether to publicize the whistle blowers name continues senator rand Paul it is you know I've been a big defender of whistleblowers Edward Snowden is probably the most famous whistle blower all time and time great defender of his so I think we should protect whistleblowers but I do think that there is a competing right that others have that when you're accused of a crime you should get to confront your accuser that's part of the six the ma'am and I think it's important the president get that protection as well meanwhile White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney wants to be part of a lawsuit that would keep him from testifying until a federal court decides the
"edward snowden" Discussed on KLBJ 590AM
"Francis telling Edward Snowden no the former NSA contractor who fled to Russia to avoid prosecution for leaking classified information about U. S. government surveillance asked France to grant him asylum with the French foreign minister says it is not the time days after Snowden published a memoir but programs Snowden shed a light on is an issue again in Congress whether to renewed controversial provisions of the foreign intelligence surveillance act so curing America. last month the trump administration called on Congress to permalink send the NSA's authority to sift through citizens text messages and calls no to section two fifteen while noting the programs was shut down indefinitely chairman Democrat Jerry Nadler called the news that feeling this race is often almost no reason for the striking position except the very suggestion that we might need the program sometime in the future section two fifteen of FISA roving wiretaps of the lone wolf provision set to expire December fifteenth in Washington Rachel Sutherland foxnews solvable depression Imelda keeps raining down on parts of southeast Texas so areas of already had well over a foot of rain it is caused flooding in and around the Houston area the federal reserve has done it again another interest rate cuts a quarter of a percentage point this time chairman J. Paul dealing with economic uncertainty since our last meeting we've seen additional signs of weakness abroad and a resurgence of trade policy tensions including the imposition of additional tariffs president trump has been calling for even deeper rate cuts saying the fed are bald heads the other day Wall Street has not reacted all that much to the fed's action it was expected the Dow rose thirty six points to the nasdaq dropped date yesterday and this morning the stock futures are falling modestly well most markets overseas are moving higher. I'm Dave Anthony this is fox news. it's five oh five good morning to you one Patrick Osborne let's get a check of Austin's a couple issues going on right now including one in south Austin big fire.
"edward snowden" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"This is free talk live talk radio you eight five five four five zero three seven three three which you tonight it's aria mark and we just finally got the subject of the f b i n ice using as libertarians have predicted because libertarian when it when it comes to government encroachment and government growth in government doing things that it shouldn't be libertarians have almost perfect track record's i mean we were talking about are emails being hats and read we're talking about are text messages being intercepted phone cosby monitored by the government before edward snowden came out and was like oh by the way the libertarians all right the government has these massive web programs to monitor you perfect is a or almost perfect is eight bold claim i cannot refute it at this time but the number is eight five five four five zero three seven three three that's eight fifty five four fifty free is free.
"edward snowden" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI
"Snowden still in russia he edward snowden soden is still in russia i saw him and that with him i guess two years ago he still living there yeah interesting in yesterday the n._s._a. announced that they still have been monitoring phone calls and text messages illegally Gosh. Yeah. i think before snowden released all these documents who which told us that our intelligence agencies are can if they want see everything we do in say in type and compute i think we knew you and i people are generating remind people that they can google this was something called the church commission think it was nineteen seventy five and nineteen seventy six it was senator church was from idaho as i recall he was a liberal democrat but he was joined in this church commission by a very conservative republican john tower of texas you remember him george and they get an investigation of what our intelligence agencies were doing and it was pretty bad and a lot of safeguards were spoke were introduced one of them the so called bicy- court it's now under dispute and it turned out the safeguards didn't work so well i mean and and what's snowden released i think didn't really surprise that many people it was more how systematic the data gathering was and so did say one funny thing to us and my wife katrina vanden nine that within moscow the i i can make this public because we did an interview with him which we published in my wife's magazine the nation but he was very funny he says he can't walk into a computer store in russia because when russians recognizing they run up and say edward edward please advise me which which computer what's the guy living on i don't know i mean he has a support system in the west i don't know i mean his girlfriend is with him is is his woman companion i think his family is supportive loving i don't actually know it's it's a very awkward situation and into trump it looked like he'd be able to come home this time he was going to get to but the trump reactivated not trump with the election of trump so agitated the democrats that they create this russia gate thing and now snow there's no chance of coming home walter in allentown pennsylvania hey walt go ahead thank you walter and dr coins a great knowledgeable guests george telling jean you know this this thing we have with russia's totally irrational because the russians fought a great battle the tank battle of kursk in july nineteen forty three which dr cohen is undoubtedly aware of and the russians already had hitler's germany on the run by the time we land undead day you know what i mean so we only other our freedom this the santa mossy we have as russia's totally irrational and even china would not exist because had we not defeated the access japan would've taken over china all you have to do is look at what they did you know that the rape of nanking in nineteen thirty seven well you know you're right not only got a minute before the break stephen will come back for final calls but after world war two i mean the soviet union was our ally i mean they went after the nazis with us what happened i mean how did we develop this cold war bitterness after world war two we may have to come back after break but let's credit walter who just called in he's all what i saw you know there was the it was at the seventieth anniversary fifth anniversary i forget which of the american landing at normandy called d. day right you it was a few days ago russia was not invited right let me repeat that Anniversary seventieth or seventy fifth nineteen forty four seventy fifth. I guess I can't do math but. putin was not invited all the allied countries were there but who had destroyed the nazi army prior to d day the soviets hitler had no divisions to throw against the american on stephen we're at the break let's talk more about this when we come back and take final phone calls on coast to coast to coast.
"edward snowden" Discussed on Off The Hook
"Expert at Johns Hopkins. He called the shadow brokers episode the most destructive and costly NSA breach in history, damaging than the Edward Snowden 2013 leaks. If you consider that, to be a bad thing, the government has refused to take responsibility, or even to answer the most basic questions says, Mr. rid congressional oversight appears to be failing and the American people deserve an answer. Well, say an FBI declined to comment, but yeah, you know, do member a bunch of years ago, there was something called the Melissa virus. This guy, New Jersey wrote it. And he didn't release it. He print. -ted it on Usenet. And he was arrested for that not for running it for releasing it for basically writing it. And having it available. How is this any different except this much, much worse? They wrote this horrible thing and basically released it through through not having secure systems, and they don't want to take any responsibility for this. It's it really seems constable to me that, that this is the source of, of such a horrible thing. That's Lutely, this was the NSA putting together a tool tool made out of malware for their own ends for their own use, and they lost control of it, because when software is set up to do things on its own. Sometimes it's just gonna get unleashed. There was a case years ago with the bit of malware that was meant to affect just nuclear power plants and got out on someone's USB drive and, and Stuxnet Stuxnet. Yes. And you know, some Puerto brings it out on a thumb drive and suddenly this highly laser focused weapon ends up just a messing things up on a grander scale and. It's basic fact of information security that, if you have ability say at the vulnerability are exploiting, your, your say, three letter agency you found this one, we're ability. You've written the software to exploit it. It's a basic fact of Infosec that you're never going to be the only one who knows about that Muller ability, if you found it someone else can find it. And if you have this tool someone else can have that tool, whether it's your version that leaks out over there. Somebody else, just happens upon the same thing, and writes one of their own. So this is this is why responsible disclosures is important. The NSA is not doing that because they don't want people to be able to defend against their own bit of malware. So you end up crashing the city of Baltimore. Indeed. Yeah. The Stuxnet was famous famously used for the nuclear centrifuges in Iran. And it was, it was theorized that it was developed as a tool by state entities such as Israel, or the US or both or neither denial. But that exploited Siemens process control equipment that used the skater protocol, and it was very well, devised and was used to great effect stop centrifuges in Iran, that were processing uranium, enriching it for, I think non medical purposes. Let's put it that way and. To the tune..
"edward snowden" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"More damaging than better known leak into thirteen from Edward Snowden in the former NSA contractor, more, damaging do they taller terms or do they mean in terms of public image question, maybe dollar terms because I mean they're talking about billions of dollars in terms of what cities have paid out around the world in cities are paying the resum. I think they must be talking about dollar terms because what's more harmful to your public image than being caught literally just murdering journalists and laughing about it. I mean that's that's pretty bad. All I'm sorry. I'm sorry, you're right. That was the Chelsea Manning. The snowed in hack. Sorry. Now, I still want to tap snowed into run from the twenty twenty libertarian presidential candidacy. I think it would be interesting to have him running up -centia, right? That would or course we could also do a son JR. Oh, Assange is an American citizen, though. But he's not gonna win anyway. So that doesn't matter true. Interesting point. Since Chris foreign intelligence agencies and rogue actors have used internal blue to spread malware that has paralyzed hospitals airports, rail and shipping. Operators ATM's and factories that produce critical vaccines. Now, the tools hitting the United States where it is most vulnerable in level, governments with really well. Okay. Must make sense and local governments with aging, digital infrastructure and fewer resources defend themselves before it's leak before it. Leaked eternal blue is one of the most useful exploits in the NSA cyber arsenal. According to the three, former NSA operators, who spoke on the condition of an enemy analysts spent almost a year, finding flaw in Microsoft software and reading coach at target and initially they referred to as internal blue screen because often crashed computers. I tip off the targets, but it went on to become a reliable tool used in countless intelligence gathering and counterterrorism missions. Next to star craft the thing I miss most from windows is the blue screen of death. They the color of it attempted to, I think it was windows vista, where they test marketed it, and they used a red screen of death and the test market hated. I would hate it too, but it is currently still blue. Of course, there's less information on the crash screen than ever like with windows, XP you would get a useful error code, and then a bunch of garbage texts that you could ignore and then perhaps another useful. Eric, Eric owed, now it's just a QR code. And it says your computer has crashed thanks. I noticed that. Thank you for pointing me. Thank you for pointing it out to me. Now, I'm looking at this here on the eternal blue Wikipedia page and Microsoft. Patched this in March of two thousand seventeen yeah. So the city of Baltimore is so behind on updating their software that they were hit by a two year old exploit now. I'm really bad about not updating windows..
WhatsApp Users Spread Rumors in World's Biggest Democracy
"Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from Deloitte, a global leader in digital transformation helping clients apply. Technologies like cloud an AI to their unique business challenges Deloitte got com slash look again. This is tech news briefing. Im Tanya boost does reporting from the newsroom in London. And the spread of false information is a fire. The world is still trying to contain in India in particular. Brian fake, news has lit social media aflame as the world's largest democracy prepares for national elections. More after these tech headlines. The national security agency has suggested to the White House that it ditch a surveillance program that collects data about calls and text messages saying the logistical and legal burdens of keeping it outweigh its intelligence benefits. Former intelligence contractor Edward Snowden leaked the existence of the program nearly six years ago, and it ignited and international uproar. The Wall Street Journal reported last month that the NSA was considering ending the meta data program, but such conversations were in the early stages. Scientists have harnessed artificial intelligence to translate brain signals into speech, a huge step toward brain plants that one day let people with impaired abilities speak their minds a research team at the university of California. San Francisco introduced an experimental brain decoder that combines direct recording of signals from the brains of research subjects with AI machine learning and a speech synthesizer. And when perfected the system could give people who can't speak such as stroke patie-. And cancer victims the ability to conduct conversations at an actual pace. The journals Lijo tes is covering it all read more at wsJcom or the WSJ app. And now, let's talk about Domino's and data because pizza Domino's pizza believes keeping control of its delivery remains critical for the quality of its pizza. So what is it not going to do surrender to some random third party? That's according to its CEO who told investors when talking earnings this week that it's not clear why Domino's should quote give up the data in our business to some third party. Who will ultimately use it against us, and quote, the world's biggest pizza chain does use third party platforms abroad in addition to its own fleet. But the results have been mixed Domino's pizza has big plans for your car. It recently announced a plan for millions of connected cars starting this year. We're customers will be able to place and track orders on car touchscreens coming up around the world efforts to stop the spread of misinformation. Are having little effect. Why the problem continues to grow in the world's biggest democracy support for this podcast and the following message? Come from Deloitte, a global leader in digital transformation helping clients apply. Technologies like cloud an AI to their unique business challenges Deloitte got com slash look again. In india? The fight against fake news is in full force as we all know the spread of false information is a runaway train of global proportions. But the Wall Street Journal's newly Cornell in his coverage explains why the problem is particularly bad in India. Millions of people are getting online for the first time, thanks to cheap smartphones and plummeting prices for mobile data. Many of these first time web users are using the messaging app. What's up with an estimated three hundred million users? India is what's the biggest market sending texts videos and photos doesn't incur the same costs as conventional text one user can create a group with as many as two hundred fifty five people just like in the US Europe and beyond political campaigns have managed to play on cultural and economic divides win campaigns want to target voters. They often blast tailored political messages to hundreds of what's up groups. They spread misinformation about sensitive subjects like India's relationship with Pakistan or religious stereotypes. Fact checking groups say this exacerbates social tensions. In addition, many Indians who are getting online for the first time live in rural areas where there is limited education about digital literacy. So how does social media tackle such a problem ahead of the elections? Facebook took down hundreds of pages in accounts that were specifically spreading misleading content or spam messages. What's app has made it harder for people to share messages a user. Now as limited to fording one message to only five groups. What's have also introduced temp line where people can submit dubious claims to be fact checked though, it's effective nece. So far is unclear despite these efforts fact, taking groups say misinformation isn't going away anytime soon for more details had to wsJcom that ends this edition of tech news briefing for the Wall Street Journal Ontong Tanya boost thanks for listening.
"edward snowden" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK
"Might have some fans of Julian want to you know, to impress Julian by maybe stealing some information. That's interesting. They his cause and giving it to him to publish. But you gotta remember when Julian released the warlords in Afghanistan and the electric emails from the Hillary Clinton campaign. He's organizations jumped on the bandwagon and publish the things store. Oh, sure thing. Absolutely. So it's newsworthy information. Of course, Julian has kind of poked the tiger and has done it in a way to really key off the United States and the UK. And and I believe that's why they're gonna go after him and make like miserable. As it is now where he's kind of held incommunicado in the Ecuadorian embassy. What about Edward Snowden? He's a different story. He was obviously working for the NSA as a contractor. So. Yeah. The obligation to obviously, keep any information. You know, obviously secret. While I appreciate him letting the American public know that the government was east dropping on art communications without a warrant illegally illegally illegally. And I think that was important to know. So I think that was a public service. But I don't agree with the fact that he released our operations against foreign countries. Like letting the public know, for example, that we were monitoring Angela Merkel's cellphone which is used and don't forget. But that doesn't make it right? Monitoring Angela Merkel's cellphone doesn't make it right by us as a nation. Right. But we still he's still into revealed that information, and I don't really know if he I think he just copy the data and gave us a grant Glenn Greenwald, and the news media, they ran away. I don't think he had the time to sit there and say, oh, this is a foreign office is a US op and actually distinguish I think it was, hey, in his opinion, the privacy of everyone in the entire world is at stake. Nobody there's no transparency, and he's just gonna release everything. Kevin. We're gonna come back and take final.
Police decrypt 258000 messages after breaking pricey IronChat crypto app
"Police in the Netherlands claimed have decrypted more than two hundred fifty eight thousand messages sent using the app iron chat, which is an end to end encrypted chat service. In fact, the two men who ran blackbox security who operated iron shed have been arrested on charges of money laundering. Please have taken down the server used to send messages they've also taken down the website server, those might be the same servers. But they've they're both off line. It's an unknown. How the police were able to read the messages, but the best guesses involves some kind of weakness in how the iron chat app handled encryption the Netherlands police are not claiming to have broken. The encryption an article published by Dutch public broadcaster NAS detailed several weaknesses in iron chat, like easy to miss notifications of a change in key, which could be an indication of an attempted man in the middle attack or failure to check if the server sending the messages is the correct ones he could spoof things. So Dutch police might have used any number of methods to trick themselves into being able to get the messages without breaking the. Decryption iron Chet claimed to be a choice of Edward Snowden. Although that is not verified is something. They just put up on their website.
NSA deletion of more than 685 million call records raises questions
"The wasser ban dangled tickets you could use some anytime or limited time this is kelly show kfi am six forty more stimulating talk down to the kfi news from foreign update demonstrators rallied in cities all over the nation against the trump administration's immigration policy california lieutenant governor gavin newsom was one of today's featured speakers at the families belong together event downtown la the candidate for governor says diversity is what makes la unique i don't know about you but i think the world looks to us looks to each and every one of you to see that it's possible to live together to advance together and prosper together across every conceivable and imaginable different sows people turned out to protest at the event earlier today also speaking at the rally were us representative maxine waters and l a mayor garcetti the feds are filling the recycle bin the national security agency is deleting more than six hundred eightyfive million call records obtained since two thousand fifteen from telecommunication companies in connection with investigations the bulk collection of call records was initially restricted by congress after former contractor edward snowden leaked documents revealing extensive government surveillance a law enacted in june two thousand fifteen said that going forward the info would be retained by the telecoms not the nsa but the agency could access the massive database aaron bender kfi news president trump says he wants to rebuild the nation's transportation infrastructure and to strengthen the us steel industry through tariffs on imports second goal could make it more costly to accomplish the first that's because the president's own tariffs raise steel prices and created uncertainty for big transportation projects steel is essential in the building of bridges roads and railroads pasadena museum of california art is closing museums going to close october seventh when it's three current exhibitions and their runs the pm see a board voted earlier this month to close a museum because they were out of money museum was founded in two thousand two by a wealthy couple traffic from your helpful socal honda traffic center.
NSA deletion of more than 685 million call records raises questions
"Newsradio twelve hundred w newsradio twelve hundred w away i news director jim forsyth is at main plaza downtown for san antonio's version of an antitrump immigration rally one of more than one hundred scheduled across the us for today jim i'm seeing signs air saying things like the united states is kidnapping children pictures of children with signs reading i'm in a baby prison and a lot of opposition to president trump a lot of people wearing t shirts reading impeach there's a sign in front of me right now united states unite families this is is a rally that is opposing the white house's zero tolerance plan toward immigrants at the border even though president trump has signed an order ending the divide the division of families a lot of these people don't believe it's happening at a lot of these people want zero tolerance to go away on main plaza jim foresights newsradio twelve hundred w police in maryland continue their probe into an attack that left five people dead in a newsroom in annapolis as a small memorial take shape outside the offices of the capital gazette newspaper in annapolis we have learned a bit more about the alleged gunman thirty eight year old jared ramos accused of gunning down five newspaper employee's in a brutal attack police today being stymied though because they say ramos is not cooperating ramos is believed to have had a long simmering feud with the newspaper and at one point he sued for defamation a case he lost was that behind this attack that terrorized not just the newspaper offices but a number of other nearby businesses and this morning rama's continues to sit in jail without bond following years of controversy and numerous missteps the national security agency is deleting millions of phone records it collected for what it says were national security reasons six hundred eighty five million call records will be erased these records the nsa collected from telecommunications companies since twenty fifteen the agency says it's due to quote technical irregularities but some speculate it might be because the program failed the data collection practice got some controversial press when former nsa contractor edward snowden leaked documents pointing to widespread government surveillance in two thousand fifteen congress passed a law saying the nsa could no longer collect call records and.
Make Alexa the default assistant on an Android phone
"If they go life there's no guarantee i eighteen months ago whistle blower edward snowden asked twitter ceo jack dorsey for encrypted diem and dorsey at the time said that's reasonable and something we'll think about so maybe they did it the real question is when will twitter include a stories functionality that's what i wanted that's not the real question it might be it's a different question okay all right fine the dish for the next eight minutes android appears to now be recognizing amazon's vice assistant as a possible google assistant substitute for the same way it does microsoft's cortana so you can set alexa to be your default assist app instead of google assistant you'll need amazon's alexa app then make the switch in these settings apps default apps assist and voice input setting after a long press on your home button your new amazon default assistant will fire up this yeah as a very very very good move in my incident on a folks don't get you can get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes by subscribing to daily tech headlines available on the amazon echo the google home and the anchor app or a daily tech headlines dot com all right let's talk a little bit more about google we're going to go through the groups of announcements they had today first thing i want to give acknowledgement to is excessive ability google adding more s code to g board for excess ability it comes to g boorda ios and android now granted they could do more but it's nice to see that google and microsoft both continued this trend of of treating accessibility seriously in their keynotes.