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"edward m cunningham" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

12:23 min | 1 year ago

"edward m cunningham" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"Across the country. No <hes> as I said before we we've made contact and we're starting to slowly expand within our county and we have some interest in your county which is right next door <hes> but but I'm also I know I'm going to a statewide conference next week. I'm going to be talking about program there and we're just we're starting to push I I also I wanna be careful that we don't outgrow too quickly and and then not be able to fulfill our promise by growing too quickly but we definitely <hes> you know Chris and everybody WHO's working at second chance in supporting that from his end they've got some great plans in place and all we have to do is just connect with other police departments. That's a really good point. I hadn't thought of thought of growing quickly but I really could happen especially when you talk about expanding into two more populated areas where you're going to have you know higher quantity more instances of of cases. Where were you need people to to be able to to to be president? It'd be on the scene so yeah. I hadn't thought about that. <hes> so how I mean what what's been <hes> what's been the strategy so far with with ramping up Chris everybody able to find enough people to enough. What is it A. C. C. R. S. so you're saying right? Yeah Sierra's got me we could we could hire CR S for days. <hes> literally all across the state. It's relatively new position that <hes> the state created probably two three years ago and there are increasing number of people attending that certification and there aren't really all that many jobs for them so I think that this could solve even some economic problems as well if we were to go statewide but again being self funded and being a soon to be funded on donations alone. It's going to take us a little bit because Philadelphia's a big Old City and I don't know if you've ever been to Pittsburgh chief but that's a big yeah yeah so well <hes> that'd be a good problem to have <hes> hopefully that's the problem that <hes> you guys encounter here in the in the near future <hes> growing to grow I mean you rather grow too quickly than <hes> than not have interest in implementing the program so I just want to give you guys both a chance to <hes> to talk about where people can learn more about the this initiative where they can <hes>. Maybe I don't know if I guess they can. They get involved with donating yet is that is that possible or so probably within the next one to two weeks. We should have a donate button up on our website at W._W._w.. Dot Second Chance P._A.. Dot Com might become an org at some point. I don't know we should have a donate button up then as of right now now we are not officially allowed to accept donations but if you want to keep your eyes peeled on the facebook page second chance P._A.. <hes> there will be an announcement hopefully very soon as soon as the I._R._S.. Allows us to accept donations for this purpose any other and of course <hes>. I don't know how you you can make a link available but you know anybody who's looking for. Information is welcome to send me an email and I'll share every anything that we have <hes> the promotional materials that we have I have them all in Chris does to have them all electronic <hes> electronically stored so we can email them out very quickly and for other police departments that are that watch your podcast definitely. Send me an email. Give me a call and I you know I I love this program. I love how it's working here and usually if you get me talking about it I'll go on on and on about how it came about and how we run it and so if you have your even just another police officer who's watching this podcast shoot me an email. I'll give you some information you you can tell the chief to call me and we'll talk chief the chief and I think that's how we're going to make make those contacts and get this to grow and the the good thing. Is that what we have at least from the police side is something that any police officer can make a decision to do there are there are treatment providers everywhere in the state and if they call us we may not be able to get them get to them right now because where they are <unk> Chris and his team of people have contacts throughout the the state and <unk> pretty much throughout the country so if they call me I can get them in touch with Chris and get them help right now. I think it's important to note that you don't have to be from Elizabethtown to come to the police station and get help. You can literally show up at this very location <hes> right now if you're from Pittsburgh if you're from Philadelphia if you're from Scranton if you're from williamsport short and you're struggling and you don't know where else to turn what else to do come here come here. The officers will connect you right with the certified recovery specialists in it's one of the most beautiful things in the world to watch a police officer help. It's awesome <hes> I just want to thank you both for for coming on the show and sharing this but more importantly for for you know being so instrumental in putting this program together so the links that you talked about <hes> chief Cunningham. I'll make whatever contact information. Information to give me I'll put that on the show notes page with which I'll share or I should say which was shared at the beginning of this episode and everyone heard where they can find it so that'll be available and <hes> for people to reach out and also in a couple of weeks here because podcasts are up forever so people here this two weeks in our three weeks an hour a year from now they can go find the second chance P._A.. And and donate their so thank you guys both again for for coming on the show and <hes> for for fighting widen to change this problem with addiction to solve. Thanks thank you hope you guys enjoyed that conversation as much as I did that conversation that I just had you just heard with Christopher derise Bach doc the C._E._o.. Of Blueprints for addiction recovery and Edward Police chief Elizabeth Police chief Edward M Cunningham two guys that are you know they're making a huge difference right now in their local communities in Pennsylvania and I would not be surprised if we're talking about them a couple of years from now as to leaders who have really paved a path forward <hes> for the way we look at addiction and policing in this country and a way to break down stigmas so addicts are looking at police in a different light in a better light in a way where police are actually here to help. They're not here you're to ruin your life and also a place where as we talked about on the show where police are looking at addicts understand that they're dealing with someone who is struggling through an addiction who was not in the right frame of mind and who needs help who doesn't the need to be charged with a crime and thrown in a cage and <hes> have <hes> that hung over them for the rest of their life and potentially lose their job and <hes> really lose hope <hes> Chris Chryssa or they talk about on the website on these second chance P._A.. Website <hes> they talk about getting rid of hopelessness and replacing it with helpfulness and that's exactly what they're doing and it sounds else cheesy to say that but it you know it's just so amazing to hear the these to talk about it and they make it sound so simple and it is simple really but the hard part is as they talked about is convincing because their stigmas on both sides really really ingrained strong stigmas on both sides here against people who suffer from addiction and from those addicts on those people who you know Mike fellows might have previous run INS with the law probably do with their attitude towards police officers and it's not like it's out of thin air. This is just the way things are. This is the way things have been. This is the way things have been. This is the way police officers have treated addicts for <music>. Ever police officers looked upon as someone who was there to help. They're not looked upon as someone that you can go to if you are looking to find a path forward to stop your diction find a treatment center get connected with people that want to help you kick your addiction not people that are going to throw you in a cage which previously and still throughout the entire country. That's what police officer police police officers are doing if you're found with a small amount of drugs a small amount of <hes> of Paraphanelia than there's a very good chance that even if you have your life together and you're working but you might be weighed down with his addiction addiction if you do have that arrest that interaction <hes> with that incident <hes> with police then it very well could derail your entire life and I am so thankful that <hes> that Chris and chief cutting him have come together here and are really just paving a new path forward and my hope for this podcast. My hope is that first of all that you are amazed this is happening. You're as amazed macy's. I am so excited to hear that this is happening. I I don't know if you can hear my voice. I am so frigging excited to see this happening in my state in Pennsylvania. It's not happening on my side of the state unfortunately but it's happening happening in Pennsylvania and I'm so excited to be able to help these two out to give them a platform and what I want you to do. I'm going to ask you to do those of you out there listening to this show. Maybe you're just a regular guy like me. Maybe you've never had a you know a run in with the police. You haven't been arrested. You haven't had a problems like that. Please share the show or maybe you're somebody who has who has had run INS with police. Maybe you're foul and maybe you're. You're an addict. Maybe you've struggled <hes> with different substances and you've seen the problems you've seen how a life can be derailed by an addiction. Please share this show. This is a path forward. Maybe you're a COP <hes>. Maybe your former COP. Maybe your police chief. Maybe you're someone in the media. Please look at what these two gentlemen are doing. Look at what they've put together with this initiative and please share this show. Please shine a light played on it so we can spread this around not only the state of Pennsylvania but around the country because this is a reasonable reasonable path forward. This is so easy to see that this needs needs to be the way police need to interact with addicts. The old way isn't working the old way is leading to more and more people dying of overdoses two more and more people being sucked into the back alleys the black market taking dangerous drugs that <hes> with if a couple of things are changed their life could be steered in a way where they're not making those decisions so when asked you to share the show asks you to subscribe to the lines liberty podcast. Ask please consider supporting what we do here lines of liberty for a couple of reasons because his great content and also we need your support. I mean we don't have everybody backing us. We just got our our youtube channel. We were just demonetized on Youtube so oh we need your help and you can do that by going to our patriotic page and becoming a Patriot supporter go to Patriot dot com slash lines.

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"edward m cunningham" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

13:07 min | 1 year ago

"edward m cunningham" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"Just click that little subscribe button on your magical listening device in your pocket that some people refer to as a cell phone. I like to refer to it as my podcast gas listening device. Click subscribe. Please give us a little five star rating leaving. I sorta review. If you like what you hear and you can also Mosey on over to our website lines lines of liberty dot com you can drop me an email felony Friday at lensofliberty dot com and let me know what you think. Let's stop beating around the Bush guys. Let's get started with today's episode. Today's episode of Felony Friday. We're going to be talking about a very unique and important program right here in Pennsylvania state where I'm located. This is the other side of the state. I'm in Pittsburgh. This is over in elizabethtown borough. We're going to be talking about a program called second chance P._A.. It's a pre arrest diversion program for addicts addicts and it's the elizabethtown borough and North West regional police departments who've joined up with blueprints for addiction recovery and they're establishing resources that favour rehabilitation over incarceration hope over helplessness helplessness life over death and today. I'm joined by blueprints for Addiction Recovery C.. O. Christopher drives box say hello Christopher everybody felons not and Elizabeth town police chief Edward M Cunningham how John just call me just call you Ed yes okay. I'm glad we got that out of the way I was going to be calling you <hes> chief Cunningham the entire show so let's Chris has been on the show before I think about I think it was fifty episodes ago Episode One Thirty Four Felony Friday so you know we don't need to hear Chris this whole back story you know he went into that of that episode. We don't need to rehash that we're going to be I want to focus on this program because it's so unique and I think <hes> from what you from you guys are doing and really implementing <hes> in your local community. I think I wanted to shine a light on that so Chris but if you could just tell us a little a bit quickly for people that haven't heard that episode is a little bit about blueprints for addiction recovery and why you're so passionate about helping people suffer from addiction so blueprints for addiction recovery is a state licensed drug and Alcohol Treatment Project. We operate out of five separate locations here in south central Pennsylvania <hes>. I'm personally very passionate about this. Criminal Justice work with chief Cunningham and the other police in this area because I myself was arrested and the M._A.. Felon <hes> I spent nearly seven hundred days of my life in jail for drug related offenses and things related to my addiction and really really loves working with progressive people like Ed to help other people avoid the struggles that I had to go through. Thank you for sharing that Christopher and <hes> ed if you could just tell us <hes> what attracted you to a career in law enforcement and what's your career progression been if you've been elizabethtown the whole time if you have you moved around a little bit now I actually I am a third generation police officer. My Dad and grandfather were both police officers and I got my start. I worked at a couple of small departments. Uh south of Pittsburgh part time until I finally in nineteen ninety five got hired full time by the city of Pittsburgh police and I had a wide range of experiences working at twenty. Three years with Pittsburgh worked my way up I finally when I left Pittsburgh. My rank was lieutenant and I I saw the damage that was done by drug abuse and drug use and and I saw that we were arrested in a lot of people for <hes> for small amounts of drugs and when what they really needed was help the problem was i. I just didn't have the resources to do anything about it. In Pittsburgh on January of last year I got hired as the chief of police here in Elizabethtown January eighteen and just through the progression of doing doing my job I met Chris and we we came up with this really really interesting idea of trying to let the police be the gateway to helping people who need help get help in my career I've done I've done some works some work in drug work some in crisis negotiations some in patrol. I've I've had very widely varied career on but this is one of the things that I've always been passionate about is trying to get people help who who need the help. That's fantastic so what what community south of Pittsburgh I live south of Pittsburgh. I actually worked out in Hanover Township in Washington county out where it's now. I guess it was the Star Lake amphitheater yeah so I was one of the officers that worked there. Her worked real hard in the summertime and not at all in the winter not not much going on there in the winter. That's so I'm curious. So this program you guys met. Each Other was at Chris did did you did you approach ed or how did this <music> come about that. I'm not a thousand percent sure <hes> think maybe my office reached out to him as the new chief of police and we just wanted to talk a little bit about blueprints and what we could do to help residents of Elizabethtown and really just introduce them and little did I know that Ed was a progressive police chief that really wanted to make an impact in people's lives and change the way things are done in Pennsylvania. He can talk a little bit more about the small meeting that turned into this awesome program it it started off as just a when I first got here I was trying to meet as many business owners as I quoted and with Chris being a business owner here in town we got it set up through a mutual acquaintance and just plan to have a fifteen minute meeting and we started talking and that fifteen minute meeting <hes> initially turned into about a three hour afternoon and that's where we really got the ball rolling for the second chance program Yeah I do remember Chris called me. This was probably before the program started. I was <hes> we have a mutual friend in DEL currency ran for U._S.. Senate and I remember Chris Talking about how excited he was about this program <hes> and just the potential of it before it even rolled out so <hes> I know that how long has has this been implemented for like. What's the what's the time for when was the kickoff date percent? The official kickoff date was January first of this year we were actually doing some test cases through the end of November and into December and got a few you people connected with the service as we were trying to work out the all of the details but the official launch was January first of this year okay and just to give some background on how it works so it's a pre arrest diversion diversion program for addicts so what types of cases what types of situations would this program and feel free. I should probably say whoever can best address the question just jump in because both address it. I mean this isn't directed to any one of you but how does that work on case by case basis chief the things the things that we're looking at for pre arrest and pre arrest diversion is just <hes> one one portion of the overall program and Bay we look at the second chance <hes> when we were building only Chris and I were building at we took the best parts of a number of different programs from around the country to put it together for something that we thought would be unique and really address all of the pro the problems that we saw that we were facing and for for ray pre arrest diversion it would be something that's a small level <hes> a small amount of possession or paraphernalia charge or maybe something like <hes> Chris and I were just talking about this earlier here today. How a lot of times theft cases are really the the the addiction is the motivator behind theft case and so if we have a small theft case that might be a a that might be a candidate for for the pre arrest diversion <hes> basically it's? It's not it's summary cases very low level misdemeanors. Were obviously not going to be ignoring felonies <hes>. We're not going to be ignoring anything violent <hes> when I'm saying felonies. I'm saying things that the criminal justice system says has to be addressed through an arrest <hes> it's going to be the smaller ones wants the smaller cases that we would have the discretion at the magistrate's Office to knock down to a fine or something like that those are going to be the kind of cases that were that are the true pre arrest diversion <hes> some of the larger cases. We're not abandoning those people if a person comes to us it or if we come in contact with the person who needs the help but who is facing a more serious charge than the police officers go into more of advocate role and we still make contact with the recovery specialist we still make contact and make a referral through the second chance program and and we move into helping them get the help that they need once they've addressed the legal issues that have to be addressed <hes> but another big part of the program is that we've also turned the police stations nations into <hes> gateways into to safe places that a person can come and say <hes> you know. Excuse me but I need help. I can't do this anymore. I need help and if they happen to have. Move a little bit of paraphernalia on them or a small amount of drugs or something then that would be something that we're not going to arrest them for asking for help. That's great so so from there once <hes> so say someone walks into the police station say one of these arrests are is made or I guess before they're arrested what happens then is blueprints contacted or how does how does that play out. The officers can call and the officers have received training on how to do an initial assessment of you know. Is this person a good candidate for the second chance program and we have a phone number through blueprints for the <hes> the certified recovery specialists and there are several of them that Chris has on on call for us and we have a number that we can call twenty twenty four hours a day seven days a week anytime of the day and we have a commitment through the second chance program that someone you know a live person will answer the phone and we'll talk to us and will if if it's appropriate will come out whatever time it is will come out to where we need them and begin the assessment <unk> process to get this person into help immediately and that's one of the things that makes aches our program unique among all the other programs in the country that we were able to find is that we have the C._R._S.. Who will come to the scene of where we are and begin immediately working to get the person help C._R._S. stands for certified recovery specialists so that's somebody who has trained to meet a person where they are a person who is pre recovery to try to get them into recovery Br and certified are loving overlords at the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania so Chris this this.

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"edward m cunningham" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

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09:31 min | 1 year ago

"edward m cunningham" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"Might become an org at some point. I don't know we should have a donate button up then as of right now we are not officially allowed to accept donations <hes> but if you want to keep your eyes peeled on the facebook page second chance P._A.. <hes> there will be an announcement hopefully very soon as soon as the I._R._S.. Allows us to accept donations for for this purpose chief Yanni other and of course. I don't know how you you can make a link available but you know anybody who's looking for. Information is welcome to send me an e mail and I'll share every anything that we have <hes> the promotional materials that we have I have them all in Chris does to have them all electronic <hes> electronically stored so we can email them out very quickly us and for other police departments that are that watch your podcast definitely. Send me an email. Give me a call and I you know I I love this program. I love how it's working here and usually if you get me talking talking about it I'll go on and on about how it came about and how we run it and so if you have even just another police officer who's watching this podcast shoot me an email. I'll give you some information you can tell the chief to call me and we'll talk chief the cheeks and I think that's how we're going to make make those contacts and get this to grow and the the good thing. Is that what we have at least he's from the police side. Is something that any police officer can make a decision to do <hes> there are there are treatment providers everywhere in the state and if they call us we may not be able to get them get to them right now because where they are but Chris and his team of people have contacts throughout the the state and <unk> pretty much throughout the country so if they call me I can get them in touch with Chris and get them help right now. I think it's important to note that you don't have to be from Elizabethtown to come to the police station and get help. You can literally show up at this very location <hes> right now if you're from Pittsburgh if you're from Philadelphia if you're from Scranton Scranton williamsport and you're struggling and you don't know where else to turn what else to do come here come here. The officers will connect you with a certified recovery specialists in it's one of the most beautiful things in the world to watch a police officer help. It's Awesome WanNa thank you both for coming on the show and sharing this but more importantly for for being so instrumental in putting this program together so the links that you talked about <hes> chief Cunningham I'll make whatever contact information to give me put that on the show notes page with which I'll share or I should say which was shared at the beginning of this episode and everyone heard where they can find it so that'll be available and <hes> for people to reach out and also in a couple of weeks. Circus podcasts are up forever so people here this two weeks from now or three weeks an hour a year from now they can go find second chance P._A.. And and donate their so thank you guys both again for coming on the show and and <hes> for for fighting to change this problem with addiction to solve. Thanks thank you hope you guys enjoyed that conversation as much as I did that conversation that I just had and you just heard with Christopher just a for the C._E._o.. Of Blueprints for addiction recovery and Edward Police chief Elizabeth Police chief Edward M Cunningham two guys that are you I. They're making a huge difference right now in their local communities in Pennsylvania and I would not be surprised if we're talking about them a couple of years from now as to leaders who have really paved a path forward <hes> for the way we look at addiction and policing in this country and away to breakdown stigmas so addicts are looking at police in a different light in a better light in a way where police are actually here to help nope. They're not here to ruin your life and also a place where as we talked about on the show where police are looking at addicts understand that they're dealing with someone who is struggling through an addiction who was not in the right frame of mind and who needs to help who doesn't need to be charged with a crime and thrown in a cage and have that hung over them for the rest of their life and potentially lose their job and <hes> really lose hope <hes> you know Chris or they talk about on the website on these second chance P._A.. Website <hes> they talk about getting rid of hopelessness and replacing it with helpfulness and that's exactly really what they're doing and it sounds cheesy to say that but you know it's just so amazing to hear the these guys talk about it and they make it sound so simple and it is simple really but the hard part is as they talked about is convincing because their stigmas on both sides really really ingrained strong stigmas on both sides here against people who suffer from addiction and from those addicts on those the people who have previous run INS with the law probably do with their attitude towards police officers and it's not like it's out of thin air. This is just the way things are. This is the way things have been. This is the way things have been. This is the way police officers have treated addicts for ever police officers are looked upon as someone who was there to help. They're not looked upon as someone that you can go to if you are looking to find a path forward to stop your diction find a treatment center get connected with people that want to help you kick your addiction not people that are going to throw you in a cage which previously and still throughout the entire country. That's Swat police officer. Police officers are doing if you're found with a small amount of drugs a small amount of paraphernalia than there's a very good chance that even if you have your life together and you're working but you might be way down with this addiction if you do have that arrests that interaction <hes> with that incident <hes> with police then it very well could derail your entire life and I am so thankful that <hes> that that Chris and chief cutting him have come together here and are really just paving a new path forward and my hope for this podcast. My hope is that first of all that you are amazed this is happening in Europe as amazed as I am so excited to hear that this is happening. I I don't know if you can hear my voice. I am so frigging excited to see this happening in my state in Pennsylvania you know it's not happening on my side of the state date unfortunately but it's happening in Pennsylvania and I'm so excited to be able to help these two out to give them a platform and what I want you to do. I'm going to ask you to do those of you out there listening to this show. Maybe you're just a regular guy like me. Maybe maybe you've never had a run in with the police. You haven't been arrested. You haven't had a problems like that. Please share the show or maybe you're somebody who has who has had run INS with police. Maybe you're foul and maybe you're. You're an attic. Maybe you've struggled with different substances and you've seen the problems you've seen how a life can be derailed by an addiction. Please share this show. This is a path forward. Maybe EAR Cup. Maybe your former COP. Maybe your police chief. Maybe you're someone in the media. Please look at what these two gentlemen are doing. Look at what they've put together with this initiative and please share this show. Please please shine a light on it so we can spread this around not only the state of Pennsylvania but around the country because this is a reasonable reasonable path forward this is so easy to let's see that this needs to be the way police need to interact with addicts. The old way isn't working the old way is leading to more and more people dying of overdoses two more and more people being sucked into the back alleys alleys the black market taking dangerous drugs that with if a couple of things are changed their life could be steered in a way where they're not making those decisions so when asked you to share the show asks you to subscribe to the lines liberty podcast. Please consider supporting what we do here at lines of liberty for a couple of reasons because his great content and also we need your support. I mean we don't have everybody backing us. We just got our our youtube channel. We were just demonetized I on Youtube so we need your help and you can do that by going to our patriotic page and becoming a patriotic supporter go to patriotdepot dot com slash lines liberty and.

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"edward m cunningham" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

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09:31 min | 1 year ago

"edward m cunningham" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"Might become an org at some point. I don't know we should have a donate button up then as of right now we are not officially allowed to accept donations <hes> but if you want to keep your eyes peeled on the facebook page second chance P._A.. <hes> there will be an announcement hopefully very soon as soon as the I._R._S.. Allows us to accept donations for for this purpose chief Yanni other and of course. I don't know how you you can make a link available but you know anybody who's looking for. Information is welcome to send me an e mail and I'll share every anything that we have <hes> the promotional materials that we have I have them all in Chris does to have them all electronic <hes> electronically stored so we can email them out very quickly us and for other police departments that are that watch your podcast definitely. Send me an email. Give me a call and I you know I I love this program. I love how it's working here and usually if you get me talking talking about it I'll go on and on about how it came about and how we run it and so if you have even just another police officer who's watching this podcast shoot me an email. I'll give you some information you can tell the chief to call me and we'll talk chief the cheeks and I think that's how we're going to make make those contacts and get this to grow and the the good thing. Is that what we have at least he's from the police side. Is something that any police officer can make a decision to do <hes> there are there are treatment providers everywhere in the state and if they call us we may not be able to get them get to them right now because where they are but Chris and his team of people have contacts throughout the the state and <unk> pretty much throughout the country so if they call me I can get them in touch with Chris and get them help right now. I think it's important to note that you don't have to be from Elizabethtown to come to the police station and get help. You can literally show up at this very location <hes> right now if you're from Pittsburgh if you're from Philadelphia if you're from Scranton Scranton williamsport and you're struggling and you don't know where else to turn what else to do come here come here. The officers will connect you with a certified recovery specialists in it's one of the most beautiful things in the world to watch a police officer help. It's Awesome WanNa thank you both for coming on the show and sharing this but more importantly for for being so instrumental in putting this program together so the links that you talked about <hes> chief Cunningham I'll make whatever contact information to give me put that on the show notes page with which I'll share or I should say which was shared at the beginning of this episode and everyone heard where they can find it so that'll be available and <hes> for people to reach out and also in a couple of weeks. Circus podcasts are up forever so people here this two weeks from now or three weeks an hour a year from now they can go find second chance P._A.. And and donate their so thank you guys both again for coming on the show and and <hes> for for fighting to change this problem with addiction to solve. Thanks thank you hope you guys enjoyed that conversation as much as I did that conversation that I just had and you just heard with Christopher just a for the C._E._o.. Of Blueprints for addiction recovery and Edward Police chief Elizabeth Police chief Edward M Cunningham two guys that are you I. They're making a huge difference right now in their local communities in Pennsylvania and I would not be surprised if we're talking about them a couple of years from now as to leaders who have really paved a path forward <hes> for the way we look at addiction and policing in this country and away to breakdown stigmas so addicts are looking at police in a different light in a better light in a way where police are actually here to help nope. They're not here to ruin your life and also a place where as we talked about on the show where police are looking at addicts understand that they're dealing with someone who is struggling through an addiction who was not in the right frame of mind and who needs to help who doesn't need to be charged with a crime and thrown in a cage and have that hung over them for the rest of their life and potentially lose their job and <hes> really lose hope <hes> you know Chris or they talk about on the website on these second chance P._A.. Website <hes> they talk about getting rid of hopelessness and replacing it with helpfulness and that's exactly really what they're doing and it sounds cheesy to say that but you know it's just so amazing to hear the these guys talk about it and they make it sound so simple and it is simple really but the hard part is as they talked about is convincing because their stigmas on both sides really really ingrained strong stigmas on both sides here against people who suffer from addiction and from those addicts on those the people who have previous run INS with the law probably do with their attitude towards police officers and it's not like it's out of thin air. This is just the way things are. This is the way things have been. This is the way things have been. This is the way police officers have treated addicts for ever police officers are looked upon as someone who was there to help. They're not looked upon as someone that you can go to if you are looking to find a path forward to stop your diction find a treatment center get connected with people that want to help you kick your addiction not people that are going to throw you in a cage which previously and still throughout the entire country. That's Swat police officer. Police officers are doing if you're found with a small amount of drugs a small amount of paraphernalia than there's a very good chance that even if you have your life together and you're working but you might be way down with this addiction if you do have that arrests that interaction <hes> with that incident <hes> with police then it very well could derail your entire life and I am so thankful that <hes> that that Chris and chief cutting him have come together here and are really just paving a new path forward and my hope for this podcast. My hope is that first of all that you are amazed this is happening in Europe as amazed as I am so excited to hear that this is happening. I I don't know if you can hear my voice. I am so frigging excited to see this happening in my state in Pennsylvania you know it's not happening on my side of the state date unfortunately but it's happening in Pennsylvania and I'm so excited to be able to help these two out to give them a platform and what I want you to do. I'm going to ask you to do those of you out there listening to this show. Maybe you're just a regular guy like me. Maybe maybe you've never had a run in with the police. You haven't been arrested. You haven't had a problems like that. Please share the show or maybe you're somebody who has who has had run INS with police. Maybe you're foul and maybe you're. You're an attic. Maybe you've struggled with different substances and you've seen the problems you've seen how a life can be derailed by an addiction. Please share this show. This is a path forward. Maybe EAR Cup. Maybe your former COP. Maybe your police chief. Maybe you're someone in the media. Please look at what these two gentlemen are doing. Look at what they've put together with this initiative and please share this show. Please please shine a light on it so we can spread this around not only the state of Pennsylvania but around the country because this is a reasonable reasonable path forward this is so easy to let's see that this needs to be the way police need to interact with addicts. The old way isn't working the old way is leading to more and more people dying of overdoses two more and more people being sucked into the back alleys alleys the black market taking dangerous drugs that with if a couple of things are changed their life could be steered in a way where they're not making those decisions so when asked you to share the show asks you to subscribe to the lines liberty podcast. 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"Hear and you can also Mosey on over to our website lines lines of liberty dot com you can drop me an email felony Friday at lines of Dot Com and let me know what you think. Let's stop beating around the Bush guys. Let's get started with today's episode. Today's episode of Felony Friday. We're going to be talking about a very unique and important program right here in Pennsylvania the state where I'm located. This is the other side of the state. I'm in Pittsburgh. This is over in elizabethtown borough. We're going to be talking about a program called second chance P._A.. It's a pre arrest diversion program for addicts and it's the elizabethtown borough North West regional police departments who've joined up with blueprints for addiction recovery and they're establishing resources that favour rehabilitation over ver- incarceration hope over helplessness helplessness life over death and today. I'm joined by blueprints for Addiction Recovery C.. O. Christopher drives box say hello Christopher everybody thelen and Elizabethtown police chief Edward M Cunningham how John just call me just call you Ed yes okay. I'm glad we got that out of the way I was going to be calling you chief Cunningham the entire entire show so let's Chris has been on the show before think about. I think it was fifty episodes ago Episode One Thirty Four Felony Friday so you know we don't need to hear Chris this whole back story you know he went into out of that episode. We don't need to rehash that. We're GONNA WANNA focus on this program because it's so unique and I think <hes> from you from you. Guys are doing and really implementing <hes> in your local community. I think I wanted to shine a light on that so Chris but if you could just tell us a little bit quickly for people that haven't heard that episode is a little bit about blueprints for addiction recovery and why you're so passionate about helping people suffer from addiction so blueprints for addiction recovery is a state licensed drug and Alcohol Treatment Project. We operate out of five separate locations here in south central Pennsylvania. I'm personally very passionate about this criminal justice work with chief Cunningham in the other police in this area because I myself I self was arrested and a m a felon. I spent nearly seven hundred days of my life in jail for drug related offenses and things related to my addiction and really really loves working with progressive people like Ed to to help other people avoid the struggles that I had to go through. Thank you for sharing that Christopher and <hes> ed if you could just tell us <hes> what attracted you to a career in law enforcement and what's your career your progression in Elizabethtown the whole time if you have you moved around a little bit now I actually I am a third generation police officer. My Dad and grandfather were both police officers and I got got my start. I worked a couple of small departments south of Pittsburgh part time until I finally in nineteen ninety five got hired full time by the city of Pittsburgh police and I had a wide range of experiences is working at twenty three years with Pittsburgh worked my way up I finally when I left Pittsburgh. My rank was lieutenant and I I saw the damage that was done by not drug abuse and drug use and and I saw that we were arrested in a lot of people for <hes> for small amounts of drugs and when what they really needed was help <hes> the problem was I just didn't have the resources to do anything about it. In Pittsburgh on January of last year I got hired as the chief of police here in Elizabethtown January eighteen and just through the the progression of doing my job I met Chris and we we came up with this really really interesting idea of trying to let the police be the gateway a to helping people who need help get help in my career I've done I've done some works. Some work in drug work some in crisis negotiation some in patrol so I've had a very widely varied career but this is one of the things that I've always been a purdy passionate about is trying to get people help who need the help. It's fantastic so what what community south of Pittsburgh I live south of Pittsburgh. I actually worked out in Hanover township in Washington County outwear. It's now I guess it was the Star Lake amphitheater. Oh yeah so I was one of. The officers that worked there worked real hard in the summertime and not at all in the winter not not much going on there in the winter. That's so I'm curious. So this program you guys met. Each Other was at Chris did did you did you approach editor. How did this come about that? I'm not a thousand percent sure <hes> I think maybe my office reached out to him as the new chief of police and we just wanted to talk a little bit about blueprints and what we do to help residents of Elizabethtown and really just introduce him than little. Did I know that Ed was a progressive police chief that really wanted to make an impact in people's lives and change the way things are done in Pennsylvania and he can talk a little bit more about the small meeting that turned into into this awesome program it started off as just a when I first got here I was trying to meet as many business owners as I could and with Chris being a business owner here in town we got it <unk> set up through a mutual acquaintance and just plan to have a fifteen minute meeting and we started talking and that fifteen minute meeting <hes> initially turned into about a three hour afternoon and that's where we really got the ball rolling for the second chance program Yeah I do remember Chris called me. This was probably before the program started. I was <hes> we have a mutual friend in DEL currency ran for U._S.. Senate and I remember Chris Talking about how excited he was about this program <hes> and just the potential of it before it even rolled out so <hes> I know that how long has has this been implemented fort like what's the what's the time was the kickoff date per se the official kickoff date was January first of this year we were actually doing some test cases through the end of November and into December and got a few people connected with the service as we were trying to work out the all of the details but the official launch was January first of this year and just to give some background on how it works so it's a a pre arrest diversion program for addicts so what types of cases what types of situations would this program and feel free. I should probably say whoever can best address the question just jump in because both address it. I mean this isn't directed to any one of you but how does that work on case by case basis good chief the things the things that we're looking at for pre arrests and pre arrest diversion is just one one portion of the overall program and Bay we look at the second chance <hes> when we were building in Chris and I were building at we took the best part of a number of different programs from around the country to put it together for something that we thought would be unique and really address all of the pro the problems that we saw that we were facing and and for a for a pre arrest diversion it would be something that's a small level <hes> a small amount of possession or paraphernalia charge or maybe something like Chris and I were just talking about about this earlier today. How a lot of times theft cases are really the the the addiction is the motivator behind theft case and so if we have a small theft a case that might be a that might be a candidate for for the pre arrest diversion <hes> basically it's? It's not it's summary cases very low level misdemeanors. Were obviously not going to be ignoring hiring felonies. Were not going to be ignoring anything violent <hes> when I'm saying felonies. I'm saying things that the criminal justice system says has to be addressed through an arrest. It's it's going to be the smaller ones the smaller cases that we would have the discretion at the magistrate's Office to knock down to a fine or something like that those are going to be the kind of cases that were that are the true pre arrest this diversion of some of the larger cases. We're not abandoning those people if a person comes to us it or if we come in contact with the person who needs the help but who is facing a more serious charge urge than the police officers go into more of an advocate role and we still make contact with the recovery specialist we still make contact and make a referral through the second chance program <hes> and we move into helping them get the help that they need once they've addressed the legal issues that have to be addressed but you know another big part of the program is that we've also turned the police stations into <hes> gateways into to safe places that a person can come and say <hes> you know excuse me but I need help. I can't do this anymore. I need help and if if they happen to have a little bit of paraphernalia on them or a small amount of drugs or something then that would be something that we're not going to arrest them for asking for help. That's great so so from there once <hes> so say some walks police station or say one of these arrests are is made or I guess before they're arrested. <hes> what happens then is blueprints contacted or how does how does that a play out. The officers can call and the officers have received training on how to do an initial assessment of you know. Is this person a good candidate for the second chance program and we have a phone number through blueprints for the <hes> the certified recovery specialists and there are several of them that Chris has on on call for us and we have a a number that we can call twenty four hours a day seven days a week anytime of the day and we have a commitment through the second chance program that someone you know a live person will answer the phone and we'll talk to us and and will if if it's appropriate will come out whatever time it is will come out to where we need them and begin the assessment <unk> process to get this person into help immediately and that's one one of the things that makes our program unique among all the other programs in the country that we were able to find is that we have the C._R._S.. Who will come to the scene of where we are and begin immediately working to get the person help C._R._S. stands for certified recovery specialists so that's somebody who has trained to meet a person where they are a person who is pre recovery to try to get them into recovery and certified by our loving overlords at the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania so Chris <hes> this this initiative second chance for P._A.? How's it how's it funded is it a part of blueprints is it a separate entity is is entirely separate entity from blueprints? I obviously am the C._E._O.. Theo blueprints the blueprints is in everything that I do <hes> but second chance Pierre is a completely separate initiative <hes> up until very recently it has been completely self funded by blueprints on myself personally <hes> we are very close to attaining nonprofit status with the great overlords federal government and at that point we will then shift to an entirely different structure where we have a board that includes several notable folks and chief hunting included <hes> and will then be able to begin fundraising and have it become its own self supporting entity and hopefully show everybody <hes> that private citizens can do a lot to help this epidemic excellent excellent so this went into effect several months ago. Can you give us any idea of what sort of impacts been made so far. Is there any anything you can share cheap. That's okay we've had today. We've had fifty six referrals. Mostly through the the three. The three partners in the very beginning were elizabethtown police North West regional police and Susquehanna Valley E._M._S.. We were the three who got in at the very beginning and we're slowly bringing in other police departments and other E._M._S. providers to to start making this program available to people where they need it <hes> we we actually have training scheduled for two other police departments coming up in the next month or two and I Chris and I both have meetings with several other chiefs to try to expand the program but at this point we've had fifty six referrals and we're doing pretty much anything that we can think of to get this help out to other people <hes> <hes> one of the things that that were were doing is that we got Chris Involved in coming to our D._U._i.. Checkpoints and we have a blueprints specialists recovery specialists. I'm sorry a second chance recovery very special list coming to all of our stationary checkpoints so if we find somebody at a d._U._i.. Checkpoint who needs who is suffering from addiction and needs help were able to get it for them immediately right there on the scene at the at the the stationary checkpoint and we have we have some very notable success stories are very first referral to the program. Actually we kicked off at what at noon Chris like at noon on January first and we got our first call at seven o'clock that night and it was a <hes> a woman who was suffering from alcohol addiction who was at risk of losing her nursing job and second chance was able to connect are with Rehab and with the services that she needs and she was able to WHO <hes> complete the beginning part of that and my understanding is. She's doing very well with beating that addiction. That's fantastic if I can add to that John Thank jumping that was actually before January first I that was before we had even officially launched at officers that we've done the training with encountered a wonderful lady passed out behind a dumpster and when she woke up from her alcohol induced stupor she got a little progressive with the officer thankfully that officer had been through our training and he understood a little bit about compassion in times of crisis and a little bit about the brain science of addiction and he had four thought to say hey. Let's call the cert recovery specialists and get her some help now now if she had gotten charged with attacking a police officer or public drunkenness or whatever it might have been might have been at risk of losing her nursing license and through this program our first case <hes> saved ladies nursing license saved her job or means of living and I'm assuming that without alcohol she's probably even a much better nurse than she was previously so just in case.

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"Hear and you can also Mosey on over to our website lines lines of liberty dot com you can drop me an email felony Friday at lines of Dot Com and let me know what you think. Let's stop beating around the Bush guys. Let's get started with today's episode. Today's episode of Felony Friday. We're going to be talking about a very unique and important program right here in Pennsylvania the state where I'm located. This is the other side of the state. I'm in Pittsburgh. This is over in elizabethtown borough. We're going to be talking about a program called second chance P._A.. It's a pre arrest diversion program for addicts and it's the elizabethtown borough North West regional police departments who've joined up with blueprints for addiction recovery and they're establishing resources that favour rehabilitation over ver- incarceration hope over helplessness helplessness life over death and today. I'm joined by blueprints for Addiction Recovery C.. O. Christopher drives box say hello Christopher everybody thelen and Elizabethtown police chief Edward M Cunningham how John just call me just call you Ed yes okay. I'm glad we got that out of the way I was going to be calling you chief Cunningham the entire entire show so let's Chris has been on the show before think about. I think it was fifty episodes ago Episode One Thirty Four Felony Friday so you know we don't need to hear Chris this whole back story you know he went into out of that episode. We don't need to rehash that. We're GONNA WANNA focus on this program because it's so unique and I think <hes> from you from you. Guys are doing and really implementing <hes> in your local community. I think I wanted to shine a light on that so Chris but if you could just tell us a little bit quickly for people that haven't heard that episode is a little bit about blueprints for addiction recovery and why you're so passionate about helping people suffer from addiction so blueprints for addiction recovery is a state licensed drug and Alcohol Treatment Project. We operate out of five separate locations here in south central Pennsylvania. I'm personally very passionate about this criminal justice work with chief Cunningham in the other police in this area because I myself I self was arrested and a m a felon. I spent nearly seven hundred days of my life in jail for drug related offenses and things related to my addiction and really really loves working with progressive people like Ed to to help other people avoid the struggles that I had to go through. Thank you for sharing that Christopher and <hes> ed if you could just tell us <hes> what attracted you to a career in law enforcement and what's your career your progression in Elizabethtown the whole time if you have you moved around a little bit now I actually I am a third generation police officer. My Dad and grandfather were both police officers and I got got my start. I worked a couple of small departments south of Pittsburgh part time until I finally in nineteen ninety five got hired full time by the city of Pittsburgh police and I had a wide range of experiences is working at twenty three years with Pittsburgh worked my way up I finally when I left Pittsburgh. My rank was lieutenant and I I saw the damage that was done by not drug abuse and drug use and and I saw that we were arrested in a lot of people for <hes> for small amounts of drugs and when what they really needed was help <hes> the problem was I just didn't have the resources to do anything about it. In Pittsburgh on January of last year I got hired as the chief of police here in Elizabethtown January eighteen and just through the the progression of doing my job I met Chris and we we came up with this really really interesting idea of trying to let the police be the gateway a to helping people who need help get help in my career I've done I've done some works. Some work in drug work some in crisis negotiation some in patrol so I've had a very widely varied career but this is one of the things that I've always been a purdy passionate about is trying to get people help who need the help. It's fantastic so what what community south of Pittsburgh I live south of Pittsburgh. I actually worked out in Hanover township in Washington County outwear. It's now I guess it was the Star Lake amphitheater. Oh yeah so I was one of. The officers that worked there worked real hard in the summertime and not at all in the winter not not much going on there in the winter. That's so I'm curious. So this program you guys met. Each Other was at Chris did did you did you approach editor. How did this come about that? I'm not a thousand percent sure <hes> I think maybe my office reached out to him as the new chief of police and we just wanted to talk a little bit about blueprints and what we do to help residents of Elizabethtown and really just introduce him than little. Did I know that Ed was a progressive police chief that really wanted to make an impact in people's lives and change the way things are done in Pennsylvania and he can talk a little bit more about the small meeting that turned into into this awesome program it started off as just a when I first got here I was trying to meet as many business owners as I could and with Chris being a business owner here in town we got it <unk> set up through a mutual acquaintance and just plan to have a fifteen minute meeting and we started talking and that fifteen minute meeting <hes> initially turned into about a three hour afternoon and that's where we really got the ball rolling for the second chance program Yeah I do remember Chris called me. This was probably before the program started. I was <hes> we have a mutual friend in DEL currency ran for U._S.. Senate and I remember Chris Talking about how excited he was about this program <hes> and just the potential of it before it even rolled out so <hes> I know that how long has has this been implemented fort like what's the what's the time was the kickoff date per se the official kickoff date was January first of this year we were actually doing some test cases through the end of November and into December and got a few people connected with the service as we were trying to work out the all of the details but the official launch was January first of this year and just to give some background on how it works so it's a a pre arrest diversion program for addicts so what types of cases what types of situations would this program and feel free. I should probably say whoever can best address the question just jump in because both address it. I mean this isn't directed to any one of you but how does that work on case by case basis good chief the things the things that we're looking at for pre arrests and pre arrest diversion is just one one portion of the overall program and Bay we look at the second chance <hes> when we were building in Chris and I were building at we took the best part of a number of different programs from around the country to put it together for something that we thought would be unique and really address all of the pro the problems that we saw that we were facing and and for a for a pre arrest diversion it would be something that's a small level <hes> a small amount of possession or paraphernalia charge or maybe something like Chris and I were just talking about about this earlier today. How a lot of times theft cases are really the the the addiction is the motivator behind theft case and so if we have a small theft a case that might be a that might be a candidate for for the pre arrest diversion <hes> basically it's? It's not it's summary cases very low level misdemeanors. Were obviously not going to be ignoring hiring felonies. Were not going to be ignoring anything violent <hes> when I'm saying felonies. I'm saying things that the criminal justice system says has to be addressed through an arrest. It's it's going to be the smaller ones the smaller cases that we would have the discretion at the magistrate's Office to knock down to a fine or something like that those are going to be the kind of cases that were that are the true pre arrest this diversion of some of the larger cases. We're not abandoning those people if a person comes to us it or if we come in contact with the person who needs the help but who is facing a more serious charge urge than the police officers go into more of an advocate role and we still make contact with the recovery specialist we still make contact and make a referral through the second chance program <hes> and we move into helping them get the help that they need once they've addressed the legal issues that have to be addressed but you know another big part of the program is that we've also turned the police stations into <hes> gateways into to safe places that a person can come and say <hes> you know excuse me but I need help. I can't do this anymore. I need help and if if they happen to have a little bit of paraphernalia on them or a small amount of drugs or something then that would be something that we're not going to arrest them for asking for help. That's great so so from there once <hes> so say some walks police station or say one of these arrests are is made or I guess before they're arrested. <hes> what happens then is blueprints contacted or how does how does that a play out. The officers can call and the officers have received training on how to do an initial assessment of you know. Is this person a good candidate for the second chance program and we have a phone number through blueprints for the <hes> the certified recovery specialists and there are several of them that Chris has on on call for us and we have a a number that we can call twenty four hours a day seven days a week anytime of the day and we have a commitment through the second chance program that someone you know a live person will answer the phone and we'll talk to us and and will if if it's appropriate will come out whatever time it is will come out to where we need them and begin the assessment <unk> process to get this person into help immediately and that's one one of the things that makes our program unique among all the other programs in the country that we were able to find is that we have the C._R._S.. Who will come to the scene of where we are and begin immediately working to get the person help C._R._S. stands for certified recovery specialists so that's somebody who has trained to meet a person where they are a person who is pre recovery to try to get them into recovery and certified by our loving overlords at the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania so Chris <hes> this this initiative second chance for P._A.? How's it how's it funded is it a part of blueprints is it a separate entity is is entirely separate entity from blueprints? I obviously am the C._E._O.. Theo blueprints the blueprints is in everything that I do <hes> but second chance Pierre is a completely separate initiative <hes> up until very recently it has been completely self funded by blueprints on myself personally <hes> we are very close to attaining nonprofit status with the great overlords federal government and at that point we will then shift to an entirely different structure where we have a board that includes several notable folks and chief hunting included <hes> and will then be able to begin fundraising and have it become its own self supporting entity and hopefully show everybody <hes> that private citizens can do a lot to help this epidemic excellent excellent so this went into effect several months ago. Can you give us any idea of what sort of impacts been made so far. Is there any anything you can share cheap. That's okay we've had today. We've had fifty six referrals. Mostly through the the three. The three partners in the very beginning were elizabethtown police North West regional police and Susquehanna Valley E._M._S.. We were the three who got in at the very beginning and we're slowly bringing in other police departments and other E._M._S. providers to to start making this program available to people where they need it <hes> we we actually have training scheduled for two other police departments coming up in the next month or two and I Chris and I both have meetings with several other chiefs to try to expand the program but at this point we've had fifty six referrals and we're doing pretty much anything that we can think of to get this help out to other people <hes> <hes> one of the things that that were were doing is that we got Chris Involved in coming to our D._U._i.. Checkpoints and we have a blueprints specialists recovery specialists. I'm sorry a second chance recovery very special list coming to all of our stationary checkpoints so if we find somebody at a d._U._i.. Checkpoint who needs who is suffering from addiction and needs help were able to get it for them immediately right there on the scene at the at the the stationary checkpoint and we have we have some very notable success stories are very first referral to the program. Actually we kicked off at what at noon Chris like at noon on January first and we got our first call at seven o'clock that night and it was a <hes> a woman who was suffering from alcohol addiction who was at risk of losing her nursing job and second chance was able to connect are with Rehab and with the services that she needs and she was able to WHO <hes> complete the beginning part of that and my understanding is. She's doing very well with beating that addiction. That's fantastic if I can add to that John Thank jumping that was actually before January first I that was before we had even officially launched at officers that we've done the training with encountered a wonderful lady passed out behind a dumpster and when she woke up from her alcohol induced stupor she got a little progressive with the officer thankfully that officer had been through our training and he understood a little bit about compassion in times of crisis and a little bit about the brain science of addiction and he had four thought to say hey. Let's call the cert recovery specialists and get her some help now now if she had gotten charged with attacking a police officer or public drunkenness or whatever it might have been might have been at risk of losing her nursing license and through this program our first case <hes> saved ladies nursing license saved her job or means of living and I'm assuming that without alcohol she's probably even a much better nurse than she was previously so just in case.

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