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Artists on the loose at the Large Hadron Collider
"At the beginning of the universe minutes after the big bang as temperature cooled the most fundamental particles of matter came into existence so neutrons protons photons electrons and others the basic building blocks of everything we know and see and much way died and to study these teeny tiny particles tucked inside every atom in the universe. invisibly are physicists. Nate this vast instrument one that occupies an entire vast landscape two hundred hectares of farmland. The contrast between big and small here cyber czar. We're about eighty eight meters underground. That the moment kilda. I'm jacob new-zealand. It's great we have people from all walks of life and all over provision who got physicists engineers computer scientists edmund people like me and they're all from different parts of the world i think from the star of the these filled like a mini country so i'm asking schroeder and i'm a experimental particle physicists. In i don't know somehow. When i leave sern i realized that i'm still honing in the normal world. I don't know some kind of refuge from everything else that is going on outside in the world and here science is what really matters. I feel like Since great that it's a kind of a political place you know. The relationship with russia never changed during the cold war with. We're about science purely about saying well not just science. I'm here for art to people as you'll hear science friction with natasha mitchell. Many meters underground this week and easter special from our archive inside the heart of soon. Just outside of geneva in switzerland home to the world's largest most powerful particle accelerator. The large hadron collider the hcc. Now this of course is the place where the elusive higgs. Boson particle was discovered. And where last week scientists hinted they just might have discovered a brand new force of nature or put it another way a violation in the standard model of
How to grow your photography business
"I learned about today's guest in a race interview with new zealand. Based photography michelle fi in that interview she mentioned popping portraits and off we on a wild tangent about this incredible sanding concept generate leads. Get none in the local community and supplement. You'll photography income with these mini sessions. The founder of poppy and portrait is with us right now and she started her photography business ten years ago and she says if y'all from wellington new zealand and you don't know at least one person who she's photographed. That would be a big surprise now. In addition to her photography business she's busy taking popping portraits iran new zealand australia and soon to be right around the world. I'm talking about anna cunningham and i'm wrapped deci. Welcome to the podcast. Anna having inc smart pleasure. So i'm guessing you can sit me right here. You started out as a photographer. Things were going well. And you thought of popping portrait's and that's taken off. Is that the white vein. Yeah i think it's probably a little bit lease teaching basically yeast. it was a Like everybody else. Just above trying to find the knicks clients and shooting portraits in the outwitting and mostly newborns and things like that and been accustomed who i had photographed a couple of times photograph. The waiting in the in the head. They first baby and she wanted to do a monthly station with a baby to catch them. Growing and i started thinking about how could make that work. I don't kinda thing. I don't think that she will become to have a full season. E remittance costly says figuring. Trying to figure out how i can make it affordable hip also with off me and came up with the idea of just having Almost day for my studio. Our something. I could have a few people come along. He wanted to the same thing in the kind of way poppins originated in from there. It just basically exploded gun huge so exciting. Do you still do you. Pinch yourself now looking at the business and saying where it is and where it's potentially going absolutely insane. Yeah i don't know what's going on when i sort of. Thank you know like the last five years it just yet blows my mind. I'm real so for the listener. The hasn't heard machel's interview. Can you briefly explain. What popping poetry taw. Yes so basically. It really is like can feel studio A chance to the and allow as many customers as you can ends account through Just one votes hiking of the little one usually babies in the first year but we do children ages. And i just come in. They come in sit now and tried cheer and they have a quick easy fighter. Technically try and get a lovely smile out of age child in move on. We move onto the next Today and in we've taken out. Will they sort of like classic in choosing that sort of jesuit just pick one gripe voted for the parents Directly to them ready to download. So it's kind of designed to be the most simple most quick most easy thing possible for And the parent and the most affordable is also ageism for just twenty dollars a pop and that's twenty dollars new zealand currency. Yeah it's currency for obviously up riding in australia is also twenty dollars Where are you opening or planning to open. Where else are you in the world. So i think recently sort of changed tech takes a little bit. We were originally planning into tight. Little any around and around the world everywhere Having moved into australia in spain not crazy with coveted thing. I've decided sort of just a focus on what we've got with australia and new zealand change tactics for the rest of the world. Who will planning to do as release another vision. Vowel suffield website software. That we've made and have that available Around the world. Who interested in joining something very similar to what opponent is what little any has bet dropping out will of the branding of the constraints that come was working with the french Don into brand thirty establish pretty excited about what that is gonna look like and hoping to get off the ground around about eight cruel. Twenty twenty on so International listeners if anyone is inspired by the idea opens Get in touch with me now. And i can keep you up to date when we have a bit more information about launch. That new wave that that's coming soon. It sounds like you'll becoming a software company and app company is at riot or you still focused on photography. I'm just. I'm doing everything and i'm just moving with the business going from one state to the next as i have done pretty much the whole way through but yeah the is going Toes for years ago. Now patented with dave who's developed out software online software that created that handle if the booking in administration image delivery in all of that full poppin. So it makes it super easy today. Obviously for the twenty dollar price point. You don't want to be spending your life during edmund Basically crucial is. Yeah so now that we've developed that software it's kind of a case of making the most of that and pushing it out using why's that. Maybe we didn't initially conceptualize. But now maxine
Biden to sign voting-rights executive order Sunday
"Of the executive order on election reforms during a video message. It came of the anniversary of a major event in the civil rights movement. Today marks 56 years since the marches and bloody Sunday when more than 500 demonstrators gathered on March 7th 1965, demanding the right for black people to vote and cross Selma's Edmund Pettus Bridge as protesters were met by dozens of states. Troopers and violence that was broadcast for all to see a national television, becoming a symbol of racism across the deep South that later led Martin Luther King Jr to March from Selma to the state Capitol in Montgomery and eventually led Congress to pass the Voting Rights Act of 1965. This year's Selma Bridge crossing Jubilee, largely virtual this year because of the Corona virus pandemic
Biden to sign voting-rights executive order Sunday
"President biden is expected to sign an executive order today designed to promote voting access this as civil rights activists mark fifty six years since bloody sunday. When hundreds of people marched for voting rights in selma alabama. Some of them were brutally beaten by state troopers. As they crossed the edmund pettus bridge becoming a symbol of racism across the deep south that later led martin luther king junior to march from selma to the state capital in montgomery and eventually led congress to pass the voting rights act of nineteen sixty
Biden signs executive order aimed at promoting voting rights
"At promoting voting rights. It directs government agencies to come up with proposals to leverage federal resource is to expand access to registration and voter participation. The order is being issued on the anniversary of the 1965 Bloody Sunday voting rights march across the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Alabama. Troy Public Radio's Kyle Gass, it reports the pandemic is making this year's annual commemoration a very different event when the Selma marchers crossed the bridge 56 years ago on their way to Montgomery to protest for voting rights. Cameras were there to document their savage beating by Alabama state troopers. Event organizer Drew Glover says streaming video on Selma jubilee dot com will allow viewers from around the world to join the struggle against racial injustice so that ideally, at the end of the event, people will not only have a greater understanding of the history but also a greater drive to get involved and make that change happen. Part of the ceremony honors civil rights leaders C T. Vivian, Joseph Lowery, Bruce Boynton and Georgia Congressman John Lewis, all of whom died in 2020. For NPR news. I'm Kyle Gass it in Montgomery,
Biden signs executive order aimed at promoting voting rights
"Klein. President Biden signs an executive order today aimed at promoting voting rights. It directs government agencies to come up with proposals to leverage federal resource is to expand access to registration and voter participation. The order is being issued on the anniversary. Of the 1965 Bloody Sunday voting rights march across the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Alabama. Troy Public Radio's Kyle Gass, it reports the pandemic is making this year's annual commemoration. Ah, very different event when the Selma marchers crossed the bridge 56 years ago on their way to Montgomery to protest for voting rights. Cameras were there to document their savage beating by Alabama state troopers. Event organizer Drew Glover says streaming video on soma jubilee dot com will allow viewers from around the world to join the struggle against racial injustice so that ideally, at the end of the event, people will not only have a greater understanding of the history but also a greater drive to get involved and make that change happen. Part of the ceremony honors civil rights leaders C T. Vivian, Joseph Lowery, Bruce Boynton and Georgia Congressman John Lewis, all of whom died in 2020. For NPR news. I'm Kyle Gass it in Montgomery, Alabama.
Biden marks Selma anniversary with order to expand voting access
"To sign an executive order directing federal agencies to take a Syriza's steps to promote voting access. This comes as congressional Democrats press for a sweeping voting and elections bill to counter efforts to restrict voting access. Biden will denounce this order during a recorded address on the 56 commemoration of the March 7th 1965 incident known as Bloody Sunday, Some 600 civil rights activists were beaten by Alabama state troopers as they tried to march for voting rights across the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Alabama.
Bloody Sunday memorial to honor late civil rights giants
"Event in the civil rights movement. Today marks 56 years since the marches and bloody Sunday when more than 500 demonstrators gathered on March 7th 1965, demanding the right for black people to vote and cross Selma's Edmund Pettus Bridge as protesters were met by dozens of state troopers and violence that was broadcast for all to see a national television. Becoming a symbol of racism across the deep south that later led Martin Luther King Jr to March from Selma to the state Capitol in Montgomery and eventually led Congress to pass the Voting Rights Act of 1965. This year's Selma Bridge crossing Jubilee, largely virtual this year because of the Corona virus pandemic That was Fox's Jeff
Seattle officials pushing for 'no bail, no jail' for non-violent offenders
"You how covert precautions and court backlogs mean that a lot of people who get arrested don't actually end up in jail. Today Come was meant Markovich reports on a growing effort to eliminate bail altogether, except for the most serious crimes. It's a phrase you hear a lot in Seattle's community court. Everybody gets released to comes in without having to post bail. It's geared to people accused of lower level crimes that may otherwise sit in a jail cell awaiting trial because they have no money for bail. We have historic levels of backlogs and because of that, and co vid There's a tremendous push to keep non violent offenders out of jail toe, lower the jail population and pressure on judges to keep it that way. A 2019 report by judges says 77% of jail population statewide. People waiting for their trials. The bell system needs to be reformed. And some of that reform has to be through the Legislature. And that's what Seattle State Senator Jaime Peterson is hoping to do. There are an awful lot of folks who don't need to be in jail. He's paying the bill that would essentially let people accused of nonviolent crimes. Go free until their trial. No bail at all. What's the threshold of violation that you have in mind? That's a good question, and that's one of the things that we're gonna have to work out. But at the bills hearing, even the liberally minded a C L u opposed it because of some possible unintended consequences of it. We are here in opposition, as did judges who want bail reform because it still requires. Court hearings with significantly stress the entire court system. There are fewer people being held for unveil because a lot of people are being PR. That is correct. One veteran bail bondsman says More judges are P R ng I think people accused of nonviolent crimes go anyway on auto theft in a couple years ago would have been a $5000 bill will now be PR. Peterson says he's convinced his bill needs more work. And that the threshold for a bail request. Maybe a person is a threat to another. That's one of the issues that I think we're gonna need to do Some more work on here over the next year in Seattle, met Markovich Cuomo news. Edmunds. Police
Tennis Player to Watch: Evan Furness
"Guy. I want to talk about today. Who i think has been if not the best player one of the five best players at the it level since the start of the twenty twenty season. And that's evan furnace who you look at his career trajectory for those of you. Who don't know about edmund furnace furnace twenty two years old going to turn twenty three in the frenchman had a career high in the junior rankings of number thirty six so again. That's not gonna blow you out of the water right. Furnace was in this junior slam champion. Who much was expected of. Yeah he made a third round of junior wimbledon in twenty sixteen lost his devan. ac- pass. Yeah he made you know play. A bunch of the junior slammed had good enough results to become a top fifty junior in the world. But how many top fifty. Former top fifty. Juniors in the world have never heard of pro circuit. The answer is quite a few and you know for furnace. It was steady linear progression. You look at you know. He played his first pro tour match all the way back in two thousand fourteen when he was you know a i think sixteen or fifteen or sixteen years old played. One match. Didn't win it. You know you start to look at as he went through the years in two thousand fifteen he was able to play twenty matt or twenty one matches when eleven and ten. That's he's in twenty sixteen. He goes sixteen and thirteen. You know so again. steady progression. His first full season as twenty seventeen. He goes forty two and twenty eight in pro events during that season now he did not believe make any pro finals at twenty seventeen season but pretty quickly found himself making the jump off to To playing a full time to schedule you look at what he was able to accomplish. A four evan furnished during his first few seasons twenty eighteen he makes his first two It finals he bought ends up winning in portugal. Next up david gaz in cameroon. In the end of november he ends up losing two skandal mansuri than hong kong. He ends up knocking off. Julian lens makes another final during the twenty thousand nine hundred season although it is safe to say twenty nineteen you look at the results. Furnish was able to put together. That season You know relatively unsuccessful compared to previous years human thirty three and twenty nine during that twenty nine nine season now during that twenty nineteen season. I believe he also played his largest amount of challenge matches and challenger level events. He really struggled during one thousand nine hundred eighty play you know. You look in his career in his cert- currently six thousand nine hundred nine in challenger events during the course of his career during that twenty nine th season he played i wanna say ten challenger matches and i believe he went to in two hundred eight in those ten challenger matches so that's why his record fell a little bit. He started to try to make the jump at the end of twenty nineteen but then in twenty twenty in the midst of a pandemic given it was very difficult to find playing opportunities. And if you were in the vomit zone three hundred five hundred which normally you probably get into challenge qualities given the limited playing opportunities. You're lucky to find futures events to play last year. That's what a furnace had to spend a lot of time doing and guess what that is. Where evan furnished thrived. You look at what he has done. Since the start of the twenty twenties
Banking heir Benjamin de Rothschild dies at 57
"Benjamin to Rothschild, who oversaw the banking empire started by his father in 1953 has passed away. He was 57 years old. The Edmund A Rothschild group, says that he died of a heart attack Friday at his home in Switzerland. Since 1997 Benjamin de Rothschild, head of the banking group, named after his father today, Edmondo Rothschild Group says it manages €160 billion and
Survey finds global mistrust could weigh on vaccine rollout
"New research finds a waning trust in governments and all types of media is threatening to limit the rollout of coronavirus vaccines around the world the annual assessment on the state of institutions suggests an info Dimmick breeds mistrust who could make longer the pop out of the pandemic the survey conducted by communications from Evelyn finds the issue of trust particularly relevant in the U. S. C. E. O. which is Edmunds says the storming of the capitol building in Washington on the fact that only a third of people who are willing to get a could be nineteen vaccine straightaway crystallized the dangers of misinformation since the middle of twenty twenty trust has fallen sharply particularly in the US and China Charles Taylor this month London
Ken Jennings pays tribute to Alex Trebek on "Jeopardy!"
"Michael Jeopardy fans. I miss Alex very much, and I thank him for everything he did for all of us. Let's be totally clear. No one will ever replace the great Alex Trebek, but we can honor him by playing the game he loved. Him tonight, his first night as guest host of Quiz Show Jeopardy. Edmund's native Ken Jennings honor the late host Alex Trebek. Jennings is the first of several people to serve as guest host. Trebek taped his final episode, which aired Friday, just 10 days before he died of pancreatic cancer in November.
Edmonds, NW of Seattle, eases penalties for driving with a suspended license
"License license in in Edmund's Edmund's may may no no longer longer face face jail jail time. time. Here's Here's Como's Como's Frank Frank Lindsay. Lindsay. For For those those whose whose only only offenses offenses driving driving with with a a suspended suspended license. license. The The penalty penalty will will now now be be a a $250 $250 ticket instead of time behind bars, according to the Everett Herald. Introduce, really, said Mons Mayor Mike Nelson says quote criminalizing the standalone offensive driving while license suspended in the third degree can lead an individual down a spiral of debt, inability to drive loss of job and worse. That downward spiral his particularly hard among lower income, individuals and people of color and quote. This new rule, however, does not apply to drivers who've been convicted of things like dy hit and run vehicular assault, vehicular homicide or attempting to elude. It also does not apply if you have 10 or more driving, while license suspended defenses on your record. Frank Lindsay
Boston's Black Nativity Celebrates 50 Years
"Black nativity is celebrating fifty years in boston. This weekend written by langston hughes. It's a gospel song. Play that re imagines the story of the nativity by placing it in an early twentieth century. Black neighborhood so he's talking about the in like the hotel and the he has characters who talking behind the back of the management about how cruel they were to turn away a woman who was about to have her child. The boston show is the longest running production of black nativity. In the united states and edmund buried gaither says this year they were planning a season long celebration gaithersburg involved in every productions since one thousand nine hundred seventy and is now in charge is the director of the national center for afro american artists. We would be getting and congratulating each other. It's the context of the virus. Most of that has just disappeared and we have had to think about how to reinvent ourselves. Based on what's possible gaither says the celebration will instead be a virtual gala saturday night celebrating joy love and hope it will pay tribute to the productions legacy and chart the next fifty years we have over a long history faced a lot of difficulties and we are still here so we are our president evidence of survival so let us draw on the strength that has seen as through previous stresses to give us the hope in courage to get through this one and let black nativity be part of what sustains.
VA Puget Sound to open four new clinics while closing three others in Seattle's King County
"The three healthcare clinics for veterans are going to close in King County. But form or will open elsewhere. The Seattle Times reports that VOC clinics will close this winter in Lake City, Bellevue and Federal Way V. A Puget Sound, says three new clinics will open next year in Edmund's Olympia and in Puyallup.
Washington governor clears movie theaters to operate at 25% capacity, including Seattle-area theaters
"To prep to prep each chair, each chair, countertop countertop and every and single every exposed single exposed spaces. spaces. Movie goers Movie are goers invited are invited back to back the big to screens. the big screens. Governor, Insley Governor, has Insley allowed has theaters allowed to theaters resume to operations, resume operations, although the majority although the majority of auditoriums of auditoriums can on Ly can B on 25% Ly B 25% of capacity. of capacity. We're thrilled We're thrilled toe once again toe once welcome again welcome you to a shared you to a shared immersive immersive experience. experience. Karate is Karate CEO is CEO of Cinemark, of Cinemark, which will open which its will federal open its way. federal Bellevue way. Bellevue and Tacoma and theaters Tacoma theaters on Friday. on Friday. Auditoriums Auditoriums will be extensively will be extensively disinfected disinfected each morning. each morning. And all And occupied all occupied seats will seats be sanitized will be sanitized between Showtime. between Showtime. Other changes Other changes Movie times Movie will times be severely will be severely staggered staggered to limit to crowds limit crowds in the auditorium, in the auditorium, especially especially in restrooms in restrooms between between movies. movies. AMC AMC will open will 14 open 14 of its 15 of its 15 regional complex regional complex is on Friday is on Friday and locally and owned locally faraway owned faraway entertainment entertainment will open its will open small its chain small of movie chain houses of movie Friday. houses Friday. Which includes Which the includes Neptune the Neptune in Seattle in Seattle and the Admiral and the Admiral in West Seattle, in West Seattle, Brian Brian Calvert Calvert camo News camo News cities of cities Edmunds of Edmunds and effort and have decided effort have to decided expand to expand their ST their ARY ST rules ARY rules well into November. well into November. Toe hope, Toe help hope, local help local
Prof. John Flood, Professor of Law and Society at Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia. - burst 01
"Welcome to the site of accents podcast. Where we explore emerging ideas from signs, policy economics, and technology. My name is Gill eappen. We talk with woods, leading academics and experts about the recent research or generally of topical interest. Scientific senses at unstructured conversation with no agenda or preparation. Be Color a wide variety of domains red new discoveries are made. and New Technologies are developed on a daily basis. The most interested in how new ideas affect society. And help educate the world how to pursue rewarding and enjoyable life rooted in signs logic at inflammation. V seek knowledge without boundaries or constraints and provide unaided content of conversations bit researchers and leaders who low what they do. A companion blog to this podcast can be found at scientific sense. Dot. com. And displayed guest is available on over a dozen platforms and directly at scientific sense dot net. If you have suggestions for topics, guests at other ideas. Please send up to info at scientific sense. Dot Com. And I can be reached at Gil at eappen. Dot Info. My guests today's facade John. WHO's professor of Law and society at Griffith University in Brisbane Australia. He's also adjunct professor of law at Queensland University of Technology and Research Associated University College Under Center for Blockchain Technologies, he who suggests on the Bloomberg professional globalization of law and the technology in law. But come John. Hello. Thank you. Sure. Yeah. So I want to start with one of your recent people, professions and expertise hog machine learning, and blockchain redesigning the landscape of professional knowledge and organization. In invite you say machine learning has entered the world of the professions. The different impacts automation will have huge impacts on the nature of work and society. Engineering architecture and medicine or early and enthusiastic adopters. Other professions especially law at late you say at in some cases with leptons adopters. could you talk about you know sort of the landscape all? Of Law, profession and. They today in terms of opting these technologies. Certainly Louis interesting because it's a very old profession is. Often considered one of the. Original traditional professions along with medicine and the church. And in a sense law has used different kinds of technology might say I mean does it? Based around writing. And then the printing press and So on yet that. It's always being based on a craft. A skill which the individual person is that enables them to do, whatever is quote if you like and. said, there's never been a lot of room for any kind of automation. Certainly, the has been space for using. A people who are not fully qualified as low as about as paralegals, people like that, who will do a lot of repetitive work document checking and things like that and so on. But what will get into now is the situation where automation through machine learning. There's other kinds of artificial intelligence. is able to start constructing documents example contracts. Check dollop a documents for particular clauses and things like that mature they're up to date and this incense is. Replacing now, the kind of work that noise will do. So I think in some ways more more of of the profession of law is gonNA be subject to automation, but distinction I would many because I think it's quite important here is that A lot of what lawyers do. Is actually quite. Active that that that that the drafting contracts overtime or or they're reviewing documents to some sort or another or they're getting through particular. Negotiation. And so you know a lot of it is the same, but they build up the expertise through doing these same kinds of were over and over again and What we're now finding is that instead of having young lawyers coming in and doing what you might call the grunt work of checking documents and going through discovery applications where he goes through the size boxes of evidence to decide. which are the appropriate documents you want the emails, the invoices order, this sort of stuff that is the kind of work which is lending itself to automation. And, and so that his taking away a lot of the work which is used for trading purposes with young lawyers and is just doing it much quicker. will quickly I mean More efficiently in many ways and probably expensive much much expensive a Lotta. This work is being outsourced to you know legal process outsourcing India or Philippines South Africa places like that. So yeah, that's that's right and so in some ways, the group of lawyers who do the work which requires the skill, the judgment. Is Reducing in some ways. That pool is getting smaller. Yeah Yeah it's it's interesting. The the distinction that you make between automation. And in my job and let's call it decision making right which is you know a lot of work in the business side of this. So for example. in the nineties in large pharmaceutical company So you think about you know rnd. People might think it has really complex selection of programs that design of them, portfolio management, risk management, all those decisions. Genuine companies be say well, senior managers with lots of experience and intuition make those decisions really well right and so that's statement would automatically implied that machines can really do much there. But what we find in the mid nineties says that is systematic analysis of data make those decisions. Don't better. Actually, I've Tom to humans humans. Always seem to make decisions. These are typically bonding the decision. So if you go back and look at it, alternative experiment has not been wrong. So we have no date to say it was a good decision at typically. So human scaffold, fifty percents of making good decisions So do you know just throwing a coin or letting monkey make those decisions so? Yup We found that even complex decision making that humans hold. you know close to their you know kind of domain I'm not necessarily. So we have machines That could do that much better than I. Don't know there's an analog of that in in law I I. Think The may be actually I mean Two three years ago the royal. Society in England decided to arrange a working party on machine learning. One of the things that they put together a a roundtable on machine learning professions resolved to talk about that night and I talked about the history of professions in technology and. and. I think one of the peculiar things that came out to in relation to law is that law. Has always been a sort of on its own. If you think about medicine, for example, medicines always had the teacher hospital institution that sort of straddles the academic quilt and the practice walls and brings those people together and as a result. INCORPORATES loss of, scientific, work. Engineering work as well computing work and things like that. And that's been the first teaching hospital king into existence in in the French revolution in Seventeen eighty-nine. A long history of that. If you look at law, there was nothing equivalent to that whatsoever and there is in fact, actually a big gap between what academy does on what the practitioners in your do so that As a result as before law has come to this a quite late but what we are. Finding I think is that Certainly the management consultancy finding is that because of the nature of a lot of what goes on in legal office a remarkable amount of it can be automated. So what we are getting now is companies setting themselves up to do this automated work. So. We have companies which do nothing but contract our instruction formation sort of company. The typical lawyer would would say to a client Do you WANNA contract classes. Yes I want this for this. And loyal galway draft contract back with it, and then in the con- comes back against as I need another contract, you go through the same process. which is good for the lawyer but not necessarily good kind. What we're finding now is the company's not can think of a few of them that will, in fact, go into the company's show order contracts. Let's see the entire. Corpus of contracts you've got there and they will analyze them. And basically say, all right. We can create a new contract in automated way fairly easily it may need some modification according to special circumstances but on the whole, it's fairly standard and and they can do that INNOVA systematic world meaning the contracts are reviewed that checked. If they're going to expire marketing, you want an unable just the system will cope with that if you're. Yeah. So yeah. No No. No so I was just going to say yes. So that the distinction you make, you know in terms education sort of systematic graduate level education that because as you say, it is low in one sense of soft proficient. You say in called professions like made it to text reengineering this team has a strong concern ensuring that expertise applied in the public interest when as low little bit different from from bad and economics in some sense sort of in the same same vein we have now made economics at really odd. of mathematics you know north of analytics there. Whether they are actually useful from policy making perspective is left to debate but at least it has been an attempt to make this make economic video hard. So so I don't know A. Fascination has been in in law I very much that will happen in law. Oh there things are beginning to happen I mean let me just boob. At. One example I learned in that workshop that I mentioned the Royal Society held. With somebody from the engineering profession talking about. The difference in skills between people who above forty I'm below forty he said. If he he was about Forty Years Austin design an aeroplane, takeout pen and paper Pencil, and paper and. I don't know anyone under forty could do that would know how to do that go onto a computer program undecided there. So you can see that the incorporation of technology into the academy through to the actual. Occupation. Than phones and things is is already a standard and they're in law. It isn't law. As you said, it's still very much a soft skill although I will argue that there is a difference between the way nor is viewed in different parts of the world. So in the United States A law is I think more tilted towards the sciences. So low in economics is one of the big things in the. US. So you got a lot of people working in the of lower economics who might go onto antitrust work no competition work and things like that which across a lot of economics, mathematics and Statistics and so on. In, say a Europe Australia and so on. Law is more allied towards the humanities. And the classics. So it doesn't have that kind of scientific underpinning in that way. So anything that's going to change in these parts if you like is going to be something that's going to be imported from outside. And is going to have a very dramatic impact when whether it does An and I think that's yet to happen. I don't think there's been sort of Cambrian explosion. If you like in in law, the will be one I'm sure but but law has an advantage over engineering economics or the other areas you might. That's With the nature of the rule of law and absent justice is since law as a a way of ordering society is absolutely crucial to everything else. Then, Law and lawyers will say will look you know we have a special status here is different amid leave engineer. We certainly want to make sure bridges stay up. We don't want down but we can design different kinds of bridges. We can design different kinds of legal bills, but they're also the fundamental rules If you want to you know if you're an engineering company and you want to build a bridge in a different country, you're going to have to do it on the basis of the legal rules, which will be just vise by the lawyers according to the country's there in so on. So in in that was what? I might put in a special category if you live. Yea. Yea. Let me let me push NBA John. So. The. The conference that you mentioned you know the Internet is under forty and engineers at. So so one could argue you know from an engineering perspective could argue e- It sexually dangerous. To not use machines to build aircraft the goes you know all the technology that cap today actually help us make the trap lot safer. granted. If you sit down with a blank sheet of paper and Pencil, you might get the principal right. But, but the technology has advanced so much that you really have to use. Technology to do so in some sense, engineering is pushed back. that. I argue this myself then they were naive engineering school. I had a V exposed at my daughter bent to school. She used the same physics book. Twenty, five. meter. I argue that that is sort of backward because data speed no need for an engineer to really learn Newtonian physics anymore because it is prescriptive, it's deterministic can make machines, learn it very quickly and so why spend all? Right. So so then you know if you think about the the law field. I wonder if there is a senior argument that is to say Dan and tape really good lawyer casts lot of intuitions dot expedients to crap something Contract or a discourse, but then maybe the machine scan actually do it even better We haven't really tested that hypothesis yet. Right be almost have this idea that humans are always dominant. Or machines but that the not be true as technology lancers. So what do you think about that in the in the? It's a very important point actually because the. American bosses. being modifying its ethical rules recently to say that lawyers have a duty and obligation to keep up to date with technology. So we already know the technology is now a an important part and I have to say when when I say the word technology, I mean this at all kinds of levels from what you can do with Microsoft word for example, it strays plug ins all the way up to artificial intelligence IBM, Watson, or something like that So that if if lawyers become. A. Uses of technology whether this small firms or big firms or what have you a under the Aba now they they actually have an obligation to make sure that they are up to date. They can't just say we didn't know what we were doing. So I think in that respect, there is a there was a move. The other move that is taking place is actually the push from from the clients. Now, this you have to look into ways one is with corporate clients. The corporation seen US lawyers have to use noise if you'd like want their work done. PHILOS- money on Chiba they wanted to more efficiently They don't want the best piece of work every time they want something that works and they want officiant. UTA A and so on. So it was interesting I think a few years ago. The General Counsel Cisco. Actually made a speech. Saying that he expected his. Lawyers Law firms who worked for the company to be reducing their fees year on year. Now, that's the opposite of what lawyers normally do, which is to raise them year on year. So say that that's one push which is. Very profound push now, coming from the client himselves who are using the beginning to use their procurement departments in in the companies and things like that to help purchase legal services the other aspects which is just as important in this is if you look at the role of lawyers and individuals. So if you is what access to to legal services, it's expensive lawyers are not cheap they charge our money We don't know how to judge the quality of their work and so on. because. There was a credence which we just know that So. On this is where technology can begin to step in and provide services which are. Efficient and often quite. what very well for the individual saying that this. Technology can be seen to be improving access to justice a Lotta people. Yeah. Yeah yes. I want to come back to this. John. I think this is a very important point. So bent on put has a lot of uncertainty. Uncertainty maybe not not the right term, but it's called deterministic. It shows beatty ability and so the determination of quality it's not as easy as hard media India nearing or. Right business economics legal all sorts of well foreign that category and the application of technology sort of a different different meaning there but I want to touch on one of the things that you say in the paper, and that is you mentioned this before and that's about training training the next generation. So you savior regulating bodies professions are involved in the collection and reproduction of knowledge intended to be used by the entire body professionals, and so there was an expectation here that you know seeing it professionals. Is Providing the wisdom that knowledge mission to train the next generation now in a technology driven. regime. discuss vacations right. Our expert is going to be a computer engineer in the future. And so so how does that work from from cleaning and knowledge Asian will I think this is This is a crucial issue in it's one which the profession hasn't. Really. Got To grips with yet I think because you think of technology in terms of Predictive analytics a document review and things like this most law schools are not preparing students for this they may be a a a a causal to on some aspect of technology, but it's not something which lawyers themselves are learning. So I think what is going to happen is we're going to find a blending of skills occurring. So law firms will be sense having to bring in a range of technologists who perhaps have. A scales a straddle, both sides of the lines, the lawyers like this too I think I think we're going to find an avangard Who will begin to develop skills that allow them to talk to both sides of the line, the tech people and? Below people if you likes and there will be people who will acquire develop these skills as well but that's that's still some way down the line I didn't think we're anywhere near there yet, and part of the reason for that I think is that you know law is still a very highly regulated profession and and the regulators themselves are in the same situation they are unsure about what is going to happen and they also feel they have an obligation to. Not only ensure that. Customers clients and consumers are protected but in some ways, the profession is protected to if you like so. You know it's it's a it's a fine balancing. There I. Think. It's a fight balancing act and you'd say if the changing changing things. So going back, you know you care as an individual eighteen status of expert. Some form of encapsulation of knowledge and analysis occurs enabling professional experts, derived diagnoses, decisions, and conclusion wrapped late. and you make some distinctions. Type of learning that. Human? Beings. That the distinction between doing drive and become a gift and laster Yes yes. Yes I think that's important. So the the the the principle behind this is that Individuals can acquire a lot of knowledge in in various areas. So as I say learning how to drive a car, you learn how to change gear you though with the speeds. Braking different rates, conditions, and things like that. So. If you WANNA take that further and become a formula one drive or something like that. Then you have to undergo a very different kind of training and that kind of thing becomes a lot more collective rather than individual because you start to you're you're going to be in a group that is gonna be doing a particular kind of our driving. If you like everybody in the group has to understand what each other is doing that group, you can't have people going right a racetrack at two hundred miles an hour or thinking individually feel like they have to have a collective consciousness. About. How to drive in that situation? That's nothing like how? You and I might drive. I'm not saying we bad drivers just saying spreading very different. So I think professional work is not. That different from this in a way. So once you you can go through school and you can do your law degree and you can learn your low. We can learn you engineering's this applies to or professions really. But in order to become a professional in order to become somebody who can operate function within that. Group if you like you then have yourself have to develop collective consciousness and and one way of thinking about it is that we we can kind of tacit knowledge. This assorted knowledge you learn on the job from people, which is not always articulated in a precise formulate kind way but it's something you pick up from the way. Somebody does something you just recognize aw that that's how they've done that might not be. Written down anywhere or anything like that. But you know that's different from now exiting differently from the way that wise doing I think X.'s doing it better I and you and you just, and you can absorb that. That's what I mean by this kind of tacit knowledge and that comes about from the professional context. As how the professional context develops becomes absolutely crucial to how you introduce new ways of doing things new my daddy's new skills new outlooks if you like and I. Think this is where we're on the cost of of this beginning to develop I mean we we know it's got to be done quite how it's going to be done. is yet to be. So. So let me make a statement John and I want I want your reaction to it so eat in hard sciences eight years against again medicine. Expertise has about a consistent happy of remorse. Whereas enor- economics and business in general, let's say expertise is not about the ability to apply rules but to deal with. and at and if that is true, it has lot of implications rate. It has implications as to how we might divide work. Between. And machine in the future. And the skills that universities need to impart on on on new graduates are also quite different. So I always argued in the business. engineering contexts that universities having changed the dog they get mentioned before they're using the same. Using the same. Out Thirty four years without asking the question are those skills relevant, anymore or more importantly watch. Really relevant for a human being in the future rate. do you agree with that that expertise assert more about dealing exceptions apply? Putting it actually. I. I can see the logic behind what you. Saying I think what distinguishes? A good professional whether it's a good engineer good architect or good lawyer or doctor is is somebody who has a certain? This may sound strange but it's the. Imagination. Creativity. about. Kind of flare that allows them to function on the nausea they they've got and developed over the years and the experience. Gathered from Nova pitching what they'd be doing over the years and so on, and it allows them to see around things in ways which they perhaps would. I can give you an example if you like a law. So I'm in in Germany and some other countries. For example, there's a particular way of bundling together mortgage securities I I won't go to detail about this, but this statute that enables you do it. And then you can sell these securities and get money. In certain countries, the UK, the US, and so on. This, NICI. So in a sense to put this kind of a a deal together it. Couldn't be done if you live. So a bank came to one of the large English law firms and said, look we wanted we want to replicate this in in the UK, want to set a market this we're not the statues off there. What can you do and what was interesting was that the law firm then went back to first principles lawyers who were looking at this went back I suppose they looked at some vape basic areas of law matter your trust. And contract from what have you? I'm from that they constructed elite supplement that looked very much like the one in Germany, but without stat sheet and they tested it and it worked. Out To be credibly successful. So much so that the German government started German legal profession started to complain because they said. You can only do this by statute and these we find a way of doing it three. I suppose using law and there it is an they were vowed shops by but that was a particular example if you like of of what you were talking about, they took the exceptions they went back to first principles and said you know or How would we get? This is where we gotta get to, and this is a way right at the beginning what are the steps we need to take and and? And that's what a good loyal will do if you. Right right? Yeah. So that's very important point. So you in your paper dawn as the DREYFUSS and rice note that the proficient performer immersed in the world of skillful activities sees what needs to be done. But decides how to do it. So as we move into a and other technologies, I think it's important point it is. Right from Dad benefactor culture we have been using humans as you mentioned before in lots of with meted activities big not designed for humans I would I would contend enjoy doing things over and over again, and if you had thought of doing that, yeah, because they have to do it for living right and so so we should be moving to word It would where anything that is with pita on delegated to the machine at automation in the bottom of that and Appealed autonation you can have intelligent automation you can have you know reinforcement learning those types of things you have some aspects of intelligence into the into the two. And deploy humans Don't Miss. They're really good at in some case. I'm. So you know we've been studying the green for ages be our no close. It feels to understand mother. Heck it does You know it's not neat learning it. Oh, BBC of. thirty years ago as see that person again, you could see you could you could have a feeling. Then you've seen that before and and what the brain has done actually not only as he that pattern but also age that matter intuitively for thirty years and say, yes, that face I, guess before. and. So there are some superpowers the brain has reaped have been applying the all all. So for a technology might allow. Look I. Think Technology will allow us to incredibly complex things without having to think about too much I. Mean if you look at the way a port functions, for example, any major port these days they've got millions of containers and ships going through them all the time. So there's a lot of paper going through the you those charter parties, bills of lading guarantees. So the lot of legal work that's being done it, it's all quite standard stuff. I mean everybody. KNOWS, what needs to be done and so on. Now, some people are beginning to think while the best way to handle a port if you like I for everybody should know is to put everything that's going on in the poor into a blockchain so that you can see the whole supply chain. You see when something comes in, you can determine when the goods are being offloaded. When they're being shipped, you can stop making the payments as a result of the. Operation of the smart contracts if you like, and the whole thing would be just one quite seamless. In some ways without that much human intervention really just need oversight Some bits of coordination so on. But at the moment is still a a lot of humans are vote in that shipping people, law people, all sorts of things which is. I think insane. That's a waste of resources. We know that there are people who have all kinds of problems that require that creative flair she like as so why waste money on the routine stuff when you could develop skills to the the real need if you like in that way? Yeah Yeah. So I, want that some that bit that John Blockchain, for example, as you mentioned. So so one reason especially in the professions like law and business humans have an advantage justice dimension of trust. and you know at least our generation we don't really. At eighty level, right. So so having that. Human human touch is still extremely important for us. Now, technologies like Blockchain, for example, actually allows that trust to be tensely decoupled, right? Yeah, and I think I think you're right. Look I. Think I mean one of the reasons we make contracts is because We, don't trust each other. So we we devised these documents with all the conditions in them. Something goes wrong. This is what will happen things like that and so on. What are the interesting things? You know people really rely on contracts are met you. You draw up a contract. And the to business people stick him in the drawer I never look at again less something really really fundamental goes wrong but they know sumit doesn't that never look at that again. So you say value of the contract, what did it actually do if you look at some of the Asian countries say like Taiwan or parts of China, you have a assistant coach Guanxi, which is where people developed effective relationships by knowing each other over a period of time around business that allows them to develop trust it. So You know there are different ways of of handling trust, but we we seem to spend a lot of time on trying to minimize something You know which we don't really do a lot of if you like. So I think one of the advantages of of blockchain is that it just it removes a lot of this from from the equation if there's certain things you know that can happen. as a result off if this thing that systems. Lead happened And you know. As, long as you've got oversight and you can see what's going on than. You don't need to be too concerned about it. It will just do what it needs to do in that way and So. Again. That's still very much in the early stages, but we are seeing situations where supply chains A shipping goods from one country to another can actually be done under smart contracts through a blockchain. Technology if you live. That that is now happening I associate goodful dealing with things like gum counterfeiting if you're. Producing. Particular high-quality could site move our phones or particular pharmaceutical products and so on you know it's one way of guaranteeing the quality of the product is you couldn't I say look you can examine the whole supply chain or the data is there. And you know his Eq- code look at it and you get the whole thing going all the way back The. Again, issues around that if you're dealing with the digital. Is Much easier once you start dealing with physical products then you have. A question of how do you get that first initial digitization of the physical if you'd like to goes on so though some people I know here in Australia who? Run A company called Beef Ledger, which is trying to export beef straight beef to China using the blockchain supply chain, which will. Guarantee the security, and the quality of the goods to the Chinese consumer APP because having problems with this before. But I will tell you now do doing something like that does require that the people you are dealing with. You're going to set this up with You have to have a trusting relationship with you before you can set up a technology that will do away with the So we're still in that. That's really early days. I think another a lot of time way to go right Yeah, but the technology works it. Clean potential one could argue contracts exist because they probably known performance if you have a technology that drives that probably the of non-performance zero, then you can actually get rid of for contract. Yeah limit. It is. Not. Goes back to that earlier point I made that. Most most contracts are fairly standard. You know a routine things they're there to. Record a series of transactions payments that have gone on between people without the to do much. If you like you know once you you're you're doing the business, the contract just kind of records that in perpetuity. So the small contract just takes that into a different area and an an actually does the whole implementation and execution without people to be involved in that too much and there's something goes wrong. But if it if it all goes right then back it is done you need to you don't you think about it Right. Yeah. Hasn't been jumping to another are forthcoming people globalization law at. A time of crisis in the? Global Lawyer and so in the say Nikolai Condom Nieve a Russian economists in the nineteen thirties believed the worst economy operates long sixty year cycles Then he called K. Braves. And you safeguarding coronavirus analysis, the fifth psycho young's from nineteen eighty to twenty thirty. It's you save twenty, nineteen forthcoming John You might have. I think so I think say because I, tell you off the what's happening this year I thought my good I couldn't My God. I was just. Owners because you know a contract device these waves up into into what he calls four seasons spring summer or winter at, and we're in the winter off this fifth cycle if you like this is. All the bad stuff happens and he's news war. Famine Disease I think wait a minute that sounds Yes yes. That's exactly right. A. But one of the interesting things about contractors was that you know he he a because he's A. Solid economists are installing a dip executed. By the way you know he he got fed up ninety that was the end of Nikolai unfortunately but he. He said instead of know if you like the ownership of the means of production are being the determinate for changeover from system system, he said it's it's technology and and that the technology will drive you out of the downswing of the last cycle into the upswing of the new cycle, and and the way that works is the win. You're in this kind of winter period because of the kind of economic. Gloom pervades if you like people tend to hold back in subsurface vestment in terms of technological innovation of what have you and so a lot of energy resources, resources, money capital if you like builds up to a second point when people say we're GONNA go for this is this is it? And that's when if you like technology comes to the fall on, really drives it forward. So from that perspective, what he's saying is that you know come right about twenty thirty. If. Things are going slowly now regarding technology they're going to speed up. In. This period and that's when it will. You know really also take take off and people have looked back over our preceding cycles and they've you know it works if you like not just their. Fantasy theory there are also the people who do Cleo dynamics in history these the quantitative historians and they've done a similar kind of analysis of historical periods and said, yeah, you know there are all these citrical. Processes that take place even revolutions occur and big upset occurs and what have you and and. One of their Perspectives which I find quite interesting is that they say one of the reasons for revolutions come about is caused a lease beginning to compete with each other and and an an I look at say trump in in America and I look at the Democrats and I I I would say Modine, India I look she in China and different groups of elites who are engaged really profound struggle for the future of their countries if you live. Out which again is leading to this kind of potential eruption of activity and a new ways of doing things. Yeah. It makes a lot of intuitive sense gone. So one way to think about this also. There are a lot of excesses. So innovating go good their excesses in the system people to believe that invincible they changed assumptions about. because they don't see any. and. Financial markets to right. So these cycles and real real mass that uniquely talking about you can see the. Happening in the financial markets more clearly. But what he's saying is that he happens mortgage and you ask in this paper in two thousand, nineteen for in many ways go. Crystallization off the settling ketone economic forces lost throat ear Kublai doomed as populous. Separates nationalism and lead clients and I think they have that we have probably the answer to that. But you see I think. One of the points I was trying to make an in in this paper walls that Global Law. If you like is is, is the a kind of synthesis off chaos? How do we bring some kind of order to chaos now once you start seeing the undermining? Of his global institutions, you see trump was withdrawn from the W. H. O.. He's he's are criticized NATO he he won't have the do with the International, Criminal Court and so we've got this kind of real life tension now between a an international legal order that's being built up since the Second World War both Ekit economic and legal order is Global And so we can't just a radical globalization I mean even even with covert, we can't eradicate mobilize ation we've got to. Handle covert the Kobe pandemic on a global basis. Otherwise, we'll. We're lost it retreats to a national. Approach is not gonNA. Work? We'll be defeated in that race is going to be global. Might. Be One of my questions in in paper was will who are the people who are going to be doing this? Kind of bringing the the order to chaos if you like and that made argument that it's got to be the global lawyer. And this is a person who not only understand their national legal system but also able to communicate with lawyers and officials. From around the world if you like. To be able to develop a kind of common. Language common discourse that enables them to stop putting these things together are, and it's not just a simple massa of saying mathematically, it works this way or not. It requires the kind of pulling together of people, but it requires that sort of common understanding which. Comes out of what I was saying about this idea of testing knowledge you know as you got this kind of professional consciousness you know how people ought to behave and how they will interact with you, and then that enables you to be out of bizarre to predict how you can do things and so on and so on. That basis I think we can operate kind of global order. It had a a below the institutional level if you're not kind of private. As opposed to the public according and that will put three. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah you know I the limit John I don't know if you think this way I limit one could as. Want to stay need for. Countries what does the need for legal system differentials? We set this up with the premise that it's easier to manage small chunks. one could also argue with Edmund Affect. -nology that you don't need to segment this debate that we have done. which might make these types of issues you know. See where you're coming from and I'm going to say yes or no? Yes, I think the home range of of questions that can be handled by the technology the ones we got pay I don't chain, etc. I don't I didn't see any issues there but there are a lot of decisions that needs to be made a book in terms of putting things together and resolve disputes that can only function at a human level because it's not. These are not decisions that are simple binary decisions. If you'd like, it's yes or no it's it's often a lot more nuance than complex about I mean, one of the resources in the World Kiva Zero System, the world amendment which is being fought over if you like is water, a water is probably one of the most valuable resources anywhere and it's you often find that rivers and things like that sort of flow between countries, they form borders. And and you are you know people if you look at the Nile, ESL start stopping in Sudan throwaway down to the Mediterranean. So he goes to countries all three countries, east European and then into Egypt's and so unwell well, who has the right to put it dime at a particular place and things like that all of that has to be cooled in act. You see a not going to be done at a human level that that's what caused the skills in negotiation judgment interpretation understanding if you like of the other people, no machine can do that I got. Yes before we conclude, I want to touch on one other thing So in the paper, you say as technology and culture intersect more and more. Ethical conundrums will intensify these raising questions about the rights and obligations of robots. And go beyond as moves. Three laws of robotics in two issues of rights of all moon. Algorithm, stem serves. So this is this is an area that be Kevin babies even even really form some notions allowed rights of all modes at rights of a are. Sai, gets more sophisticated. Yes. Yes. I do. I, mean I think this is one of the issues we already know some of the problems with algorithms and and you know can we can be are they transplanted from you see what's going on the ethical issues around the construction and implementation of algorithms and things like that. But I I I think looking into the future we all going to rely on things like robots. And various kinds of machines so much more so that if you look at a country like Japan, which is a a an aging population such that it doesn't have sufficient younger people to look after the people who need looking often. So machines, I'll be part of that, and that means people will stop forming real relationships with machines and and so that's when I would say. Okay. So let's think about how we View a potential rights of machine that we give. We give rise to humans. Yes. We know that we give rights to animals. Now we've also given rights to viz in forest in some countries as well as so machines I think our. Next logical step you know do we do we treat them with respect Let me give you one. Very classic example yet the production of. Robots for sex if you like is a major industry at the moment, some manufacturers say they want to program them say that people can act out rape fantasies will do we want that I? Mean you know should we be at first of all? You know? We should be having people behave in this particular kind of way, but even an uncertain if you do it against another human being, you'll be punished for it and you say we'll a machine is a piece of property you should be you should be doing that but I'm getting to think that maybe a machines should be treated with dignity say that we are treat ourselves with. Dixie. This a kind of reflexive situation here what we? Do to machines we do to each other, and they may again due to US depending on how they evolve and and move forward in that way is a very contentious issue. A lot of people would reject that right out of hand I agree I think we've got to stop thinking about stop dining forward because I. think we're going to at some point again. I. Don't know when. But at some point we will be having to deal with that. It's a it's a very important point. Joan. So if I understand you correctly, you know that the rights to animals the rights to inanimate. INANIMATE things like Lubers The recent those exist is because of its effects on humans and can see video a clear link in the future we would see a very clear link between a algorithms and robots ended affects on human. So this is not me You know each not fantasy in the sense that yeah, robots should have rights, but rather it's a more conceptual question. Any fraud did not have rights each going to cabin negative I I think that's absolutely true. I mean just to highlight that if you like this firm called Boston Dynamics that produces. Robots and they produced these videos of these. Now, these robots are resistant being pushed over and things like that, and it was quite interesting because a lot of people say all you can't treat them in this way. This is awful and so what I mean that that's the answer for more fighting to to the extreme extent. But it I think you know on the basis what you're saying, you know how we Oakland. Hold human beings accountable to each other in an increasingly complex world machines have become part of that. We can't just have them all sitting on the edge as though they're not part of who we are, what we are and how we do things. Right. So. Incursion Johnny fuel sort of look forward five years. At. The intersection of law and technology. But you think people see sort of the biggest. I. Think you'll see it two wins. On the you know for the individual The individual, you're going to see a lot of them just interacting. With artificial Tennessee, say lost questions about what my rights for this how do I deal with a tendency agreement? How do I complain against a producer company or something like that or that's going to be automated? is fairly straightforward to do and and it will only need A. Minimal. Amount of human inside of. An intervention if you like. At the other end at the. In I think we're GONNA see more and more technology coming in because as those basic functions that are. Being, carried out by junior people or or paralegals or things like that are the ones which are going to be increasing, automating creasing. I'm. We will replace the humans and just let machines do that because there's no point in wasting human resources on that whether that means we need fuel or more lawyers That's an open question I think it will that we need different kinds of lawyers We will need Roy Moore to logically aware much more sophisticated. They don't it's be programmers or odors or anything like that, but they need to have a quite a a a a strong understanding and gross what's going on in technology in that way if you like so. Yeah. We can definitely see an. Yeah, so I, think you mentioned the so from a structure perspective in all forum DC law firm sprucing to word. It a group of equity partners. Around it by machine so to speak well, I. Think. I was in that paper or another one I. I'm S-. Forecast. Law. Firms. Being. Distributed decentralized we'll tournaments organizations running on a blockchain with with the various people. into setting when they will no I. Think the law firm is still a very strong and powerful is Shutian, that's not gonNA disappear straight away. But certainly the numbers of partners who control things will shrink. They'll that will get smarter as proportion and yes, they will be surrounded by machines and they surrounded by people who are servicing those machines. Your excellent. Yeah. Thanks for doing this weekend. John really enjoyed the conversation. Thank you very much. It's been great fun and very
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Welcome to the program. Thank you guys for having me on It's a pleasure to be here with you guys tonight. And what we wanted to do was to break down because I've done a couple of shows with our own Jeffrey Benedict, where we did a breakdown of Mak- Fitzpatrick, we also did a breakdown of the gentleman who Mike is wearing a Jersey of Devon Bush we talked about that individual. That's a nice, crispy White Jersey and by the way I. I like. The White Jersey a little bit better than a Black Jersey. Please don't kill me on the live chat. I'm a fan of the the white and a gold pants and if they do. I was hoping they go all white with the color. Rush. That's me. I would love it. They go all white with the color rush, but we wanted to bring nick into breakdown to rail at men's. In the curious case of Terrell at means Terrell at Mrs impacted his ability to football play as a player in the steeler fan base is one of great controversy, so we wanted to bring you on. You Watch a ton of Fan. We wanted to get a film in the football perspective of the player, so the first question I. WanNa ask you just simply what are his strengths and his weaknesses as a football player as you watch him in dissect him Ville. Yeah I mean I. think that he has a very very key witness. That is ball skills so you see him just the ball very very very often. The David Johnson touchdown. Arizona is the big one that I will point to on, but there are norm numerous examples where he misses interceptions, he doesn't even get may splash plays. He's had one reception and one fumble recovery over his first two years. Two turnovers forced. You need more in the modern. NFL from the SAFETIES. You need more than two forced by your strong safety. That's just something you have to do. But. I will say his strengths all come in mainly the physical department. He's a great athlete. A great athlete I'm coming Down Hill. He is very very fast and explosive these quick and agile, so he's a fluid mover. at like the flexibility has so. He's able to flip his hips Amir with even quick receivers played pretty well against Tyler Lockett when he faced him in week two against Seattle so that was a pretty good matching for him. and you will see him. Stop guys like Cooper Cup out of the. The slot, he's a consistent in man coverage because he's overaggressive so he will get baited by double moons at times, so it's a discipline issue. There the one area I really liked to see the improvement from this year, though was the instincts, and really reading the the offense I think he got a better feel for the game out there and I thought he was using his athleticism to a bigger degree, and that's why registered zoning eccles I think last year. He's around the football all the time because he was seeing. Seeing the well, and I think that's something that really is nice. See from him, you know a strong run fills. It was in an coverage was in zone. Coverage is anticipating routes on even as sears more complex seen last year, because always been more talent, they have the more. They disguised their coverages I think Edmonds actually did pretty well in that role on I think he did pretty pretty nice there, but also it's. It's the finish. This kind of what I talked about on twitter it. Edmonds is good throughout the process it's. It's just it's the finish that hurts him. He misses too many tackles. He Must I think thirteen or fourteen tackles last year, twelve percent of his tackles He missed twelve percent of them. So that's not good to see from a guy. That is your strong. Safe your box, safety and again he's not making plays. He shaky man coverage, so there's certainly areas. Terrell, Edmonds Astro improve upon I think he did improve like I said, but yeah. There's a lot that he has to work on as a safety. So, my witcher question. Now, he he obviously I believe came second in the team in tackles Do you think? Do you think that's something? A safety should be having those kinds of numbers, or do you think that something that's kind of a an issue when it comes to gaining yards down the field, or or is that something that we shouldn't be worried about? It, so it's a double edge sword for one of product of US tackles. Were him getting beat? It was he got toasted against the forty niners. Got Toasted against the Ravens posted. A few times in a few games dot at like eleven tackles just because he was tackling the guy that had beat 'em. Twelve fifteen yards down field That was something I did see again. That goes back to man coverage. It's struggles in the man coverage area, but also I will caution I think he did a nice job of coming down the line in supporting in the run game I did think he made some really nice run fills and he saved a few actually big plays. I thought he did a nice job. Coming Downhill at times now. That doesn't mean you should move linebacker if that's a question later I don't think you should move linebacker, but. I do what he did there, so it's a double edged sword. shows get that many tackles yet. It's possible I just don't want them to come off in getting beat so often from the slot, and that's something that he doesn't even improve upon. Now. All right I'll do my question for sorry when when it comes to the pause flipside Is there a game from last year? Say That that was trill edmonds best game of the year. Yeah his best game in my opinion when I've watched his tape. It was that Cleveland Browns game a week. Thirteen I bought, he played very very well that game, and he was matched up against by Jarvis Landry that game. Dave an in joke Goo He faced some good football players that game on, and he was actually doing pretty well. He didn't get beat too often. He made a few really nice plays when he came down hill on the Kareem Hunt tackle in open. Spacey was one on one man covered. He saved about twenty five yard gain. Gain made a nice technical clean, tackle wrapped up twisted and brought him down it a very nice planned cream months. Guy That is slippery and we'll break a lot of tackles, so that was a really nice thing to see I. Think Edmonds when you look at that Brown's. Am I think you saw a lot of the flashes you wanted to see and the upside that could make him really actually a hit in the first round rather than his murky water right now that he's currently in so yeah, that was the game that I thought encapsulated his progress the most. Now, it's interesting that you say a hit in the first round, because only use this this comment from Nehemiah to ask my second question Azra, said the following my main knock on Edmunds is that he was picked in the first round. I know that's not a reason, but if he were a second rounder, I'd be more patient so me. Follow that up with with my question. Do you think the fan base is so down on edmunds because of the lack of splash plays. Let's say in the first couple of years. Edmonds let's say he averages for interceptions. a couple of fumble recoveries He makes more splash plays instead of solid stick to your ribs plays plays where you make the tackles year in place that you're supposed to be you don't give a play. You know sort of those plays that don't really flash or splash screen. Do you think the lack of splash plays as wide a fan base is down at men's, and you couple that with the fact that he was a first round. Absolutely I mean that's. That's the biggest problem of his game. If he had made it, you can live with guys that get beat from time to time if they can make an impact in the form of splash place, edmonds doesn't bring that and he gets beat often enough to where you can say okay..
"edmunds" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"You haven't missed a thing. We appreciate everyone for doing that. and Rhino tools right Terrell Edmonds could bulk up if I was training him absolutely put him on the the twenty one program their ego. We'll get involved By the way you know who your client is going to have to come on the show. He's on a client yet. He is voiced some interest. We'll put it that way. Yes when he when he becomes a client. We have to see the before. And after I I definitely want to see that transformation we will. We will see signs up and he gets on board will. It's tough times for a lot of people finances are definitely type but with that said what I did before we went on the air. This is early in the morning. I went to our behind the steel curtain twitter account that's bt steel curtain. You can check us out there. If you don't follow us. Give us a follow and I said just looking for some steelers questions for the home. Run hitter podcast. Day Far Away. We had a pretty good response. So we're going to go through some of these questions. If you're watching live in the live chat go ahead and give us your answers as well. And so we'll start off the bandwagon top to bottom Frankie J Ryan says should the steeler sign claim at junior just for depth purposes? Now I have not seen him as someone that had signed with the team yet. He's a veteran. He knows what he's doing could be quality. Death could be on the cheap lance. What are your thoughts? Well it just depends on the price tag. I mean depth. They need depth at the outside linebacker position. If either one of the outside linebackers were hurt. Their defense would be severely impacted. It just depends on the price you know. I'm not sure what he played for last year. Who did he play for last year? The board for the Rams It just depends on the price tag. I mean if you look at the steelers cap situation and I'm bringing up here you know. I don't think they have a ton left. They have a million left. They can structure Stefan restructured so they could create space if they want if they restructure contracts to create space. You guys no rhyme leaning backup quarterback position so it just depends on the price tag. I think the idea is solid. I'm not sure about the player but I know they are a very vulnerable position. In terms of depth at both linebacker spots inside and outside so bringing in a veteran edge rusher would not be a bad thing. It's all about. It's all about the money that's always about now. This is a more of a comment and a question but Jordan on twitter said why do steeler fans continue to do post mock drafts when the steelers don't pick till forty nine sure. There has to be something for them better to do look Jordan. Let me say as a website editor and as a podcast producer. That when you don't have a first round draft pick it sucks. It really does because once the calendar turns from Free Agency and you start really focusing on the draft all these Audra Mel Kiper. Todd mcshay you name it very rarely do they go on to the second round so they have to. We have to create content. Okay that's what we are. We are content. Creators weighing sends me a few text messages doom the curious case of Terrell admits. Here's your podcast. You're watching it. Listen to it right now. It's content creation. Don't hate the people for trying to create content for you the fan. That's all I'm GONNA say Lance. You can say whatever you want about that. That's just my little spiel. You know I mean it in for us is especially challenging. I'm not draft guy at all. No need it at and we're not draft is so we talk about the draft merely because we have to talk about the drive. I mean I don't you know and my dad laughs at me because he's like look. Here's some stuff for you to read. So here's a couple of guys so when you're doing the POD I just don't go. I don't know anything about the embrace. The fact that I don't know anything about these guys because guess what none of you guys know anything about these guys either because guess what nothing that done in college matters enlight Terrell Like we talked about. Maybe the circle back to that just a bit. It's how they're going to be utilized. You can get a stud guy in college. Does everything well does everything specifically. Well whatever they go to another team and they may COMPLA- corner when they're safeties and they're getting killed as a corner or slot corner and you're like this guy is terrible. No Guy's not terrible because he wasn't utilized oil so it's just a wait and see what the draft let me. Just wait a year or two. Let me just evaluate the player game by game? Like the coaches do. I don't have to guess they're going to play and we'll see how they play. So you know two jobs point. We're trying to create content in the draft one of those elements absolutely and I love would read over and says because we're all stuck in our houses with nothing better to do there you go. That's why fans continue to much as yes and at this juncture of our world. This is where we are. I mean I was so bored the other day I actually watched some of the most painful one of the most painful steeler games I've ever had to watch and you can guess what game that was. Jeff my gosh. There's so many was it of. GimMe the year two thousand and one. Afc Championship game against the Patriots. Absolutely that's probably my worst steeler memory because it started their dynasty and it was just a terrible loss. I don't even WanNa talk about it. 'cause they'll what one offensive touchdown instill given night. Can we not do this right now? As a gay or are gave me a migraine. And that's real time. I gotTA migrated. I had to sleep for like seven or eight hours after the game. Just literally sick. It may be sick. I woke up the next day on Monday. All right next question came from lying. Peercy says he will have a big year next year. James Washington or Deontay Johnson. This is interesting because I believe it was on our show a couple of weeks ago this one or the standard. I get them confused and we were talking about Deonte Johnson's numbers and we all made the assumption that he led the team in receiving yards last year. He didn't it was James Washington. So Lance has the bigger year in. Let's go with two categories receiving touchdowns in receiving yards. He has the bigger. You're not take. He's GonNa have a better year catches touchdowns receiving yards in the one reason. I think that to be the case is when you watch both players on them. He gets off of press coverage much better than James Washington. I mean look at look if you want if you want to take a look at it if you guys have some access to NFL game pass. Look at his game against The outstanding corn from Buffalo. Just had the guy's name in my head but I just forgot his name. Dow starting first round the first rounder. Or I think. All PRO corner From Buffalo Indiana Johnson matched up against him one on one and he was getting on for press coverage pretty easily repeatedly Against Him and so. Why ain't gift today this white and so? I give the advantage to Deontay. John I think he's a better technician. I think he's more versatile in terms of route running and I think he's more dynamic after the catch then James Washington and that's not to say That I don't think James Washington is an emerging player. Because I what I saw James Washington last year specifically to play against the Cincinnati bengals. I mean there are not a lot of guys that can make a living and with stiff arm. I was great player. I shows you where his ceiling could be but I think he's more of a home run hitter type. Vertical Guy Run Vertical routes nine routes in the scene in on the outside. I think he's more of that outside. Receiver where deontay Johnson is more dynamic. So I think the Andre Johnson will have a better season in all of those categories. Okay I'm GonNa side within our buddy at McNair who put it out. He said there statue of different deontay with more catches Washington more yards. I do think Washington has more yards. I think he becomes a legitimate threat for the steelers this year but I think the deontay Johnson overall have the better quote unquote season. I think we'll have more touchdowns to point to that comment I think Washington's yards per catch will be greater. Okay Yeah I think it'd be probably fourteen and above James Washington okay continuing in our. Qa mailbag here Mason says. What are the expectations are? What are your expectations have been Snell? Thought he played well as the season went on. Last year improved. He was more explosive than advertised. And it's hard to bring him down as well Lance. Benny no jets. What are your expectations in year? Two can I answer this? By just saying JK dominance. Ooh Okay. All right that's a college guide. It lands knows his name. So that means he's paying did you get. Did your dad dislodge if he's favor? You're getting all these these vapors. Jk Dobbs if he's there it would be really tough to pass up. I'll put it that way if he's there so I think the Benny Snow could be a good complementary back. I'll put it that way. I don't think he is the guy I think he is. A change of pace type of player could be good but at the same time. I don't. I don't think he is the guy as we put it in the show before Jeff. Now you're now let's say Jeff you're having Like steak and potatoes right like potatoes are complementary to the state the state is the STAR. The potatoes are complementary now is beanie jets. Is He a complimentary or is he just a condiment? So you know how salt-and-pepper you put in the potatoes in there the condiment that you put in the potatoes to enrich the complementary dish. Is He condiment hell? I hope he's the potatoes I think he's a potatoes. It's I really do because I think that he's when I watched him run. He had a little and I say this has generally because he's a hall of Famer but he had a little Bussey to him if he had seen he runs hard. He's not the type of guy that's going to go down easily. I would love to see him feel a and I'm not sure if he is versatile enough to do this but to be like that a wealthy more type if you think back to how they utilize him he was a change of pace back. I remember change of pace can look like anything. That's different than what you're used to. So let's get. Jk Dobbins and say they donate stick with James Connor. James Connors a one cut down hill. I'm going to erect my body type runner. That's exactly what he does. And it seems like any smell is different than that. He has a different style. I like him as the potatoes. Not The steak there you go. There's your answer. Benny snail is S. D. In they don't have an hd back they have no high def back painting snappers as the standard def. Will Your Computer Looks Fuzzy in the background? All right let's go to the next question in the mail bag This is from steelers nation. Nine hundred zero. What has Mason Shown Mason Rudolph? He's referring to prove that he's a solid. Nfl quarterback in do you think he could be the future? It currently scares me to think he may be Benz predecessor. Any reassurance would be great. I'll go ahead and start here and say I don't think anyone in their right mind. The watched two doesn't nineteen would say did he is Ben Roth asperger's predecessor or who's next in line the heir to the throne however you WanNa put it for me. I look at base and Rudolf as an unfinished product that still has to prove itself and people in the live chat saying what about Paxton Lynch for me in my opinion if I'M THE COACHING STAFF. I'm going into twenty twenty. It's an open job. A veteran that comes in. You've talked about this a lot. We Know Ben's The guy. They've put all their eggs in. Ben Rothlisberger Basket and I don't even think they're thinking too much beyond his contract right now but at the same time I look at it and say Mason. Mason is is just another guy. That's going be competing for a job. Do you agree or disagree? I agree that Mason will not sit upon the iron throne. He will never rural western else. He never be that guy he would never sit upon the throne. He's like seven in succession. I would like him to be seventeen succession but unfortunately he's number two in succession. I don't want to beat a dead horse because I've beaten as dead horse over and over again here's I have and I you know. Look you know. He's not the guy I mean. The one thing he does well is take a punch. He rolled with that shot. Pretty well you know when he was fighting in the Cleveland game. He looked like he has some boxing skills. Unfortunately rolling conscious from helmets. Don't make you a.
"edmunds" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"They have they have opposite in my opinion. Well what would you Let me just give you the differences in weight. I just looked at both guys bearing in Edmonds. They got Berend listed at two thirty in edmonds listed. A to seventeen to seventeen is kind of lighten. I'm trying to think when they put I'm trying to trying to think back in my head. When the steelers had Morgan Burnett? I'm trying to think back to the New Orleans saints game when they played Morgan. Burnett as the dime backer. I think they did take off. A defense of linemen in a kept. Aj eljay excuse me. Aj foyt eljay. Fort on the field. That's interesting because I think your advantage with Sutton. Is I think when you look at Sutton in Hilton. Sutton is the better coverage player. However you lose that element of Hilton. At the line of Scrimmage I. I think you could put Hilton because I know they did a little bit last year. Where they put Hilton as deep safety I think you could just do it that way. You Put Hilton as a deep safety. You Keep Cam Sutton as the coverage guy you might just blitz other people in not blitz. He'll not the line of scrimmage you might do it that way and let Hilton. Be that guy next to Minka Fitzpatrick Patrick and played at deep path. You'd probably be in quarters. I would think maybe covered three. But you'd probably be in quarters to a certain extent or may be covered six some quarters as some cover two different coverage on both sides of the Hashes but I think the thing about maximizing edmonds is impact on the defense. I think we're we're saying is to maximize his impact. It's up to the coaches if you keep him in that traditional strong safety role because of his issues with awareness amd ball skills. He's not gonNA impact again. He's going to be really just a supporting element. He's GonNa be like good milk in a recipe for some cookies. Awesome cake taste milk but if the milk is sour you definitely taste but if the milk is good you it just adds richness to the recipe. I think the frustration when steeler fans is they. WanNa see some icing on the cake. So some good Red Velvet Icing. Like they WANNA see some zing some possess because that's kind of what you want with the first round draft pick but I think the most valuable thing with edmunds right now is his door bill he plays snap snap out and I think with his athleticism you can get different things out of him. Based on whatever the creativity of the coaches so he's athletic and strong enough to be used in a variety of ways he's not limited like a Ryan Switzer. Who can't do anything I mean. He's just a physically talented and gifted guy. And so if the coaches configure it out. He has the athletic ability to possibly do it. Yeah Edmonds is to me would be perfect for that. Hybrid role and playing. Down the line. Scrimmage I just you know I was watching. It's going to publish on the website behind the Curtain Dot Com tomorrow megabits Badger joined. Espn's I take with Stephen. A Smith Max Kellerman. I guess it was early last week. I didn't see every time I see. Stevie I just don't listen but I did see making is just like a kid. Listen well so Minka was asked a bunch of questions and ask them individually. What are some of your goals for twenty twenty? 'cause he's already at the all pro first team all pro it pro bowl. He said my next goal for myself is defensive player of the year. He said I had a pretty good run at it last season but then all of a sudden he's they stop throwing at me because they start thrown at me. My statistics down. He wasn't able to get past offenses in an interception. Something we've talked about and not just us a lot of shows Msn nauseam that at a certain point offenses said. We're not gonNA throw to Fitzpatrick side. The issue I have and this brings it back to Tyrrell Edmonds. If he's playing the deep half they will know where to go with the football. You can't have in a weak link like that back in the back end because then you're nullifying all the dynamic aspects of makeup Fitzpatrick's game in my opinion. And so they like you said the coaches are going to have to be creative. I do think edmonds has a skill set that can be beneficial to the team. I really do at the same time. I don't know if he's the player that some people are expecting him to be or can be in twenty twenty. That's just my own opinion. Let me ask you this. I think I think with US fans in most people. Is that when you get drafted in the first round? It could be a gift or curse to give this. Obviously you get paid great money teams are going to give you a legitimate. Shake it for the most part to fail to succeed or fail. The other thing is that because you were drafted in the first round the League is probably going to give you a legitimate chance to fail over and over and over again because somebody saw first round talent and with the steelers doing it. It'll give Terrell Edmonds additional years that he may not get being a fourth rounder. Unfortunately when you get drafted in the first round dares expectation that goes with it. Especially if you're a Pittsburgh steeler first round draft pick in in drafted on the defensive side of the football. Is it acceptable for you Jeff? If a first round draft pick merely is a complimentary player I mean does a first round draft pick has to be this lights out all pro multiple pro bowl guy borderline hall effect me just hours. Round draft picks be great players. Or can they be Lawrence Timmons? Were there just solid? They play a vital role in your defense. Year-in-year-out it when you don't have been you go while he's not playing in. We see the difference. Yes a first round pick does have to have those same. They don't have to be a hall of Famer. Okay because we know that's as rarified air but a first round draft day does have to play they have to play well and they have to play a lot and you just I just described Lawrence Timmons steelers I seven. I guess the Question Edmonds. The book is still being written on him. Just like we always say. You can't great draft class the day after they were picked. You just can't do that and so it. He's going into year three. In my opinion this is a pivotal year for him. In a wide variety of ways. The steelers are going to have to make a decision on his fifth year. Option at some point. And they're gonNA have to know okay. Is this guy worth it. Or is he not and so does. Edmonds. Is He always there. Yes you brought durability. He's very very rural so far in his career. That's a good thing Has He shown some promise? I would go ahead and say yes that he has shown some promise at the same time. I DO CAUTION. Have a little bit of trepidation. We'll say we'll put it that way when it comes to what he's going to become an what could he become? Because someone in the live chat. I forget I it's obviously continues ago as AP keep talking. That's great is move Mako around more. You can't do that if you have a liability in the on the other side that you just can't. And so if if Terrell Edmonds has strict limitations on himself that he is not able to do what the steelers hoped he would as a first round pick endeavor. Therefore that hinders Minka fitzpatrick that is a death knell for your secondary. In my opinion we're all entitled to it. Yeah it's it's GonNa be interesting what they do because you know he's he's a tough evaluation. He doesn't necessarily kill you but he doesn't necessarily do enough to get you excited. You know he's you know he's the he's the the the seven I mean. He's the seven I mean he's the seven seven and a half you know for male or female like you know he's fairly attractive. He's a solid guy doesn't necessarily get you excited like. Oh the nine or ten. That is really bad for you. But it's really hot like you know like you never know like you know just as I hopefully didn't give an inappropriate We got you. I WanNa make it clear though because Ezra alive sheds as Edmund should not play safety. I'm not suggesting that he turns into a linebacker. I'm just saying that. They have a position now on their defense. In it's been well documented for Morgan Burnett to mark Baron that he could play that position. Can he then improve his skills in his ball skills enough in the back that he would never have to leave the field? That's the question. Entering twenty twenty will see Let me ask you one more question. Jeff can as we go into the hypothetical bag. You think he could bulk up. Maybe get to about two twenty five anywhere between two twenty five to thirty as full-time inside linebacker. So they just so. They don't have time to inside linebacker time inside the ACAR. What's Vince Vince? Williams heightened wait. That's look that up from. I'm I'm a guest. Vince is probably around two forty. Yeah he's also probably a little bit taller too little I would guess probably around there. I'm thinking but I'm thinking you know. Bush is probably what about two thirty to thirty five? They got Vince. Actually listed here at two thirty three six one hundred thirty three said deadman's is a big bodied safety. So could he potentially bulk up in? Yes play down the box full time. It's a possibility I just don't know I I. I need to see exactly what he looks like even in that hybrid role because that we've never seen in there. He didn't play their last year if he did. It was temporary and so we'll see still out there in awareness issues when you're playing linebackers run fits you kinda gotta feel where it's going in so awareness. You GotTa have a certain awareness at the linebacker position. But I don't think they probably drafted him as a safety to be a linebacker. I think that would be evidence of a bad evaluation of the player and that they're trying to just get the most out of the player because he was a first round draft before he eventually goes to another team so yeah and so did to kind of. Something's up on Edmunds. We'll see and that's that's I think he's a player that is definitely worthy of the discussion. Because he is. He's not the linchpin but he's a very important piece of the puzzle for the steelers defense moving forward so right now. I'm looking at her looking at my screen. We have one hundred and four people in the live chat right now watching. Live what we ask that you do is to like show case of all. These people are watching. 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"edmunds" Discussed on The Smoking Tire
"So I put too I I I I did it for two hours And then You know when I got up the hill because there's a significant hill at Abrego Springs has really fun and you can't hold back when it got up to two Holiday Hill. Climb uh-huh yeah switch backs. It'd be great hill-climb actually But when I got to the electrify America charger. You know had issues and had to move around took longer than I wanted to. And you know it's it's it's great that they built out that network feels like they built it out really quickly. I went on a hike and launch. Which was here in and did did my I didn't do prescribed lap. I went straight from the hotel full charge. The canyons beat the shit out of the car. And they went straight with like this much juice led to the Burbank Electrify America. Where they had two of the real fast the three hundred and fifty ones one of which was broken. I was like oh go anywhere while there was a three fifty but that one was broken at least one fifty which is priced same. Which I thought was a rip off that you get a sense not per kilowatt hour per minute and one charges. More than gases prices the same. That's one of the things I I need to talk to them about. But you know. We got to remember the super charger. Networks been out there for awhile when when we had our first model s at at at Edmonds the Super Charger Network didn't exist and then we they built out six of them and you could get from Vegas to Lake Tahoe. And that was pretty cool and then they just kept adding them and adding them in some of the first ones were ninety kilowatts and they weren't very fast and they upgraded one twenty and there was only four and then there was eight than there was ten in. There was twelve so like a lot until you see what the zoom is. It's it's still a lot. I mean in the amount of time they've had to build that they've come a long way in a short time. Now how many of those? I Yeah I haven't taken a cross country trip with those and Someone just did. Yeah the Audi guys just did right walker did want and he said it was. Kinda slow going in the each ron. Yeah they they had A couple of issues but they did better. I thought they would still still young when we did the Model S. you know. We made a run for New York City as soon as the Tesla had done it with their own staff and two cars van. Another van had people stationed in hotels. Sedated fresh drivers. They did all these things they had. You know be beds in one of the vans. I understand and They did some time and then we decided well. We should do it with ours. And I decided to do a shorter route because one more station opened up but there was still a gap between LAS VEGAS AND BEAVER UTAH. Long drive that is uphill. Yeah five thousand feet of elevation gain with like you go down fifteen hundred have to come back up so it's even more than that and when I posted my my trip land some on the blog I got a reply. From Tesla's Ain't don't do it. You won't make it. We're supposed to have this super in Cedar City Utah. I think it was. That is an open yet. It hasn't been built you. Won't you're not supposed to be there? So this corridor isn't viable. I'm like well but if I go this way I'll beat you guys by three hours because you went. They went through late monument valley. He's really long route and I figured if we went slow enough on that one leg we do it and yet we went about fifty five miles an hour hours but we chugged up to beaver Utah and we got there with nine miles off to the races so the whole took sixty seven hours and twenty one minutes which at the time was nine hours faster than Tesla had done it but then about nine months later. They opened a shorter route. That didn't go up through South Dakota and Minnesota go that far north way nor yes it was the only corridor that was open at that time and so when the straight through Kansas one was open. Somebody took three time which they should. Because it's four hundred miles shorter and three charges less totally. We'll check out that that range tests on auto blog. That's a good story. If you WANNA get a primer on Dan's work and I did a suspension walk around with it when I went cool and I used to do a suspension walker on my safari nine eleven. I would like to an interesting thing. Yeah Rig and you were and what you have coming up. Got A tremor suspension deep dive coming up real soon still building. That started it. So you have to fifty F to fifty four F to fifty package. You know it's got thirty fives and it's lifted and it's got trick shock and awe doesn't even enter my orbit list is. It means you're into that it can be can be seven three gas. We ate or the diesel. All right and Yeah that's pretty interesting. Learned a lot. I know they had there was an F. One fifty tremor. Oh yeah look at that. That's yes bro. That's an appropriate description. Well I mean not that that you know not that. There's anything wrong with that but I mean that's the kind of look they're going for rides. I lifted leveled big tire black wheels. It's it's at factory turnkey package. It looks pretty bitches. It ride like an ox cart when there isn't five hundred pounds in the bed. They all had the diesel. Has like a high-capacity route suspension. Which I get into the deep dive that the gasoline doesn't have so I'd like to drive one with a gas engine to see how they compare. I just I like that. Ford has Mike Levin doing this stuff. 'cause he's off road every weekend with the trucks. He's a good follow on twitter as well. Yeah and he's got a drone he loves to play I guess he driving and filming himself one actually where I was driving. And he was sitting next to me playing with a new drone that he was trying to figure it was looking good. Yeah your own work. Cool man thanks for coming in the show. Thanks for having Follow Dan on twitter at its edmonds. Underscore test is that right. Yup instagram is Suspension Tuna Tuna. I like I like all use of fish on username. Any any Yousef Ish we can do. Thanks for coming down. I really enjoyed it absolutely and We I said yesterday on our show. Brian is gonNA come in rid. Postpone that one till after our trap. He's GonNa come in later. Are we GONNA DO Crucial Marzak? We need we may or may not gonNA look at the thing we were Zach going into town for ten days so we have We have we have plans to make the schedulers busy and We'll we'll let you guys know. But you were only airing one episode for the weeks of the Seventeenth and the twenty fourth because we are going to be gone as opposed to two episodes week so Tuesday APPs. Only all right all right. So we're back Tuesday Thursdays beginning March. Third again thank you Dan. Thank you back and you don't hear from me. It's because we into Hiti by guys..
"edmunds" Discussed on The Smoking Tire
"The sixties for them were awesome. Daytona Coupe shall we technically but I might say Honda but as a cheat because I could also include a dirt bike or off road that way well played Very Good Ali says. Oh wait what oh saying I have. I have a mark one escort with a three hundred horsepower cosworth engine. I currently run Michelin. Tb fifteen tarmac race tires a mostly due back road rallies like the DWA rally thoughts on. Oh fifteen fifty two with Ko twos. Should I run gravel to? Oh I think we know this dude. What's Up Ali? I would not put. Ko twos on a on an escort. I would know they're really loud. The Falcons I have on the DELICA are just as the Falk in What's the name of them? They've got a name. That's like held peak. Thank you the wild peak. They have the same grip basically but are nearly as loud. I wouldn't put I I have. Ko twos on my nine eleven. It's too fucking loud. Yeah here's here's the thing though that I don't know if it's true this size range but you know in a jeep the K. O. Two's versus the wild peaks in the wild peaks way like seven or eight pounds more Po. Do they really big difference in in like the weight of the tire itself? Really? Yeah what tire do I want for my nine eleven Andrew Collins? When he came in here he did a tire test. I think he took off a pair of shoes and put on a different offer. Tyrant save like six pounds. Really good article. I'll find it on July. Make it was about that exact thing that would be a good one. All I know is the difference. Between K. O. Two in the wild peaks on in gladiator context. Okay but I don't know about looking up some weights. It's not something to you know it's worth considering. Yeah for sure I oh my car. Two hundred dollars power. It makes a difference. Yeah what do you got This guy just wanted to tell us about a euro tuning encyclopedia called one thousand. Seal Oh yeah DOT COM. This is a guy who was due to someone who got all these weird tuned. Mercedes from from the eighties. Really THIS IS OUR BILL. Surrender six wheels and a convertible top. Oh that's an interesting stuff did that. Range Rovers excellent by the way that is the original six by six. I have money to the Great Red Rover Thaddeus showed me our lives in Dubai than they have a couple of those one thousand. Sel's on Dubai's version of like craigslist Dube. Isil really it's new. It's for a while. Two thousand twelve. See it popped up now. Yeah and There's these weird.
"edmunds" Discussed on The Smoking Tire
"Before you had a weather phone. Freak snowstorm shows up and like drops a foot and they. They sent a bunch of home from work so I was driving home in the first foot of snow and thankfully because it's not a few more feet and I was on the seventy s on it and I was like I got all driving locking defend as soon as I tried to gather parking. This is going to be a drive. Yeah it was a twelve mile an hour creep but every time I just like let the clutch out the car just to crab walk to the right following the crown on the road. It was so so so slippery John. Cooper works mini to and I couldn't. I couldn't get up the mildest of inconvenience. I mean it was like five degrees. Maybe like not like that might be a lot but it was like barely it was like no. It just starts letting go like this test. We did here was based on something I did when I worked for Hyundai. You know because at hunter was developing suspensions and and and part of that is tuning the tire with the Tyre vendor to to to to have the performance characteristics the suspension tuning guy which was me wanted to work with the springs and shock absorb revolving and all that stuff that we did. It was all done at once. All tires are custom tuned to the car. They go on not just one or two lotuses. That claim that. It's pretty much everything I wanted to ask you more about that. After you finish your point is so we would do. Winter testing in Minnesota and ship up ten prototypes and one hundred tires and we do just tire testing for a week and I remember we decided on a Tiburon wants to to try the summer tire and so we had a garage and to get to the test area. You went down Little Hill and there was a like an old railroad flat car. That was a bridge. You went over that and then up a hill to and as soon as we tried to drive the tip run out of the garage. We couldn't even get it over the lip of to get ten feet so we ended up putting it on the all season tires driving it out to the test area and then changing onto the summer tires out there on the flat ground so we could test them and then getting up to forty miles an hour which was our test speed to almost entire length of the available space. It was it was nuts. See some of the results in that thing if you put. That's so overwritten. I I wrote that longtime ago before asinine recite. Yeah but it's still. It's still applies. Of course I'm I'm such a snow tire proponent. I love snow. The snow tires on the appropriate vehicle are so much fun and you way more grip the have amazing what they can do that kind of stuff. I to ask about the kind of bespoke tire. French car Why I guess. Why do they do that? It seems like there are no cars are sometimes similar enough. And I'm obviously. I'm going to be wrong about this from my i. It's like if you have three different sedans. That are between. Let's say thirty six hundred and thirty seven fifty pounds and they're all competing the segment and they all they there. I can feel the same on the road due to suspension but feel similar. But let's say all the tire sizes are the same. Yeah and then we have different compound for each one. Why is that is not necessarily the compound okay And you know there's a couple of things at play I. Each of the manufacturers has different contracts with different suppliers so Nissan might do Bridgestone and Toyota might do general who knows who they've contracted with to put the tire on the car. That's one thing it's not. It may be completely different brand. Okay and then you know. They're developing the car from the ground up so everything's up for grabs in. There may be a new tire and maybe Toyota or whoever it is wants to have lower rolling resistance to improve their fuel economy so they specify certain rolling resistance and they need it to be quiet or because they had customer complaints. Who Jd power last time? So they're trying to improve that so basically every car. That's completely redesigned. They are every five years they take a fresh look at everything and things change in five years. And so Yeah but you're looking at like the belt angle of stuff. You can't see The details of the tread pattern. That don't seem to make a difference but might for noise There's you know a number of wires. In the Beedon beads stiffness and there's the wedges that are kind of in the bead behind the dot number and things like that. There's just a dozen parts within a tire that you can't see that you can just make a car totally cushy and have terrible steering or you can make it feel like it's on twenties. That are rock salt. I mean you can go any number of ways with the tires just another knob that you have to you know. Get the Carter behave the way you want to imagine. It's also probably easier to kind of get the suspension where you want it and then decide on a tire that works versus having to choose tire and then make the car the rest of the car wash around math steps. All iterating in parallel tire guys are working on on the tire. You're working on the springs and shocks and then there's generations and then there's another round another round and you you you kind of like zero in on your final endpoint. There's a lot more work behind the scenes and you'd think now I think it's by think it's probably a lot. I just the end user. It can be annoying. I've had I've been in a situation where I've had a car that was on a SPEC tire you know and you get a flat and they go well. We can't get back for like that sucks and it's really bad now because there's not a lot of spares yeah and One of the things. That's really helped. Though I think is tire pressure monitoring systems to you. You don't see. Nearly as many road sized flat. Roadside flats is used to because most of those come from. You know tires that are leaking lonely. Because there's a nail and it's losing a little bit and a little bit and a little bit in the guy doesn't notice and then pop once it gets down to a certain point the components inside the tire bending back down like like you know when you try to break a paper clip in half I just goes. We just had one. That was driving us. Nuts my My My My mother is the Queen of Lexus. Rx Is at one point. She had five of them concurrently. One no no none of them had the gold pass to where the Jewish racing gold champagne color but one of them the fucking t- PMS cap coming on the last one she. This is recent kept coming on Kepco. They go check it all. All the tires are fine. Replaced the four top five turns out it was the the TPS in the spare going bad and even the dealers it. She went back to the dealership three times they didn't they didn't know about the TV and they didn't check. Check it but as it turns out the fifth fifth sensor is optional. It's not required by law. Yeah but they're so they didn't Yeah tired out. Tires will leak. Even if you haven't run over anything around a month they just do. Yeah and And I know people in cold weather get upset because it'll come on. You know in cold weather the pressure inside. The tire goes down because that's just physics and the pressure in the tire is what supports the weight of the car. So even though it went down and it didn't really lose any air. You still have to put some in to bring a tire back. Because the pressure is what holds the load? You know when I you know what I see way too many of around L. A. Motorcycles with low rear tire pressure. People don't check their tires on their motorcycles often enough and the motorcycles don't typically come TPS Amelie's May they might the brand new might but like. I only dirt bikes. I don't know they are the ones I've been on pretty much haven't so like but just see people. I'm like fucking retire seriously. Low and you know the the bike must ride like shit. Would think you'd be able to tell. I can see if my tires down two or three. Psi can feel like immediately and my little vesper which Iran little contest today guests. I've I've had a month refresh that page real quick. Has It gone up yet? It doesn't matter capsules choice by the way. Isn't that Nice three hundred. I love it. I ran my vest both had at one thousand one month. I had an old kind of crappy small one twenty-five before that and then upgraded three hundred. I've done five hundred miles in that thing in the first month. Just under five hundred miles. That's a lot for VESPA. I've been to the valley like four or five times till I wrote. It's a Hollywood. Koreatown there's at MGM. Five I drove this morning. If you scroll down that White One More Zach I think are scrolling wheels. Dying over there. That's an Alpine white e thirty nine five one hundred and thirty nine made in that color. Wow Alpine whites not my favorite color but on rarity you get points. Yeah that's true very prefer colors too but there's a there's a couple of re look there's the grain on the steering wheel that's really low. They had a couple of reds. There were not the standard Imola reds. There were some other like kind of orangey red. They were super rare that I really liked. What a great car. Those were that was like I mean it's Corny to say now but it's like a big Miata in that you could freely feel the weight transfer as you're driving it around. It was fantastic Getting the Super Chat folks. If you're with US live we'll get to your questions in just a minute. What are you think about the what is seemingly going to be an onslaught of e V pickup trucks? Yeah you know. I've been thinking about this a lot I have you know since I was on the journalist side. That's when I came in. I never really did anything with them as an engineer and but I drove a many When those first. Oh yeah two thousand eight hundred journalist or you got at least one and drove it. There was a lease car at inside. Live Oak and So I drove it extensively. I think they had it for six months and I fell in love with the whole idea. Then that car had insane regenerative braking like more than anything. I've ever driven since point two five g. Gen. that's really so it's all lift throttle too so there's no way it was like you could honk into a cloverleaf really aggressively and then just lift out and the thing is is you're doing like trail break trailer. No one could teach you trail braking like and then you're picking up the throttle at the apex. I mean because it's just one pedal yeah and it was like this is fun. Yeah you know mind. The fact that I'm not shifting. This is just fun on a whole different for different reasons so I was like into it. And so yeah. I've been following him. And we've spent a Lotta time driving them. You know driven a Model S. cross country And had the record for a while Before shorter route opened I've towed with the Model X. And of that work for you. That's where the pickup truck question comes. Because the towing with the model X. thing was it was like on the one hand. It was brilliant because the Torque and uphill downhill level ground. All felt the same well. That's because there's there's no like downshifting right there's no like strain of course. I wasn't telling ten thousand pounds is toying sixteen hundred pounds But it felt like he could do anything and then lift. Throttle region is to stop with a trailer behind. All of that was brilliant But the range was like really less than half of it should have been less than half just telling sixteen hundred pounds. Yeah Whoa like ninety nine miles between one charger and the next much was was harrowing. GotTa go fifty three and turn the air conditioning. Oh it's not good and you know the model says that Nice big windshield a walk. I do love that. Oh I don not the interesting in general I like it. I don't like it. I like to block the Sun. Ever seen the thing they give you as a sun shade. I have.
"edmunds" Discussed on The Smoking Tire
"Is that him right there. That's him right though looking good. That's him car. Seven yeah talking about what type of cars that boy you're GonNa ask me something that embarrasses do we know can say on it somewhere S. P. L. and McKay. A lot of them were one offs. But I don't know who made that one this engine car. Yeah Yeah often. Hauser blue the sidewalk power. That's awesome so. Do you know the whereabouts of that thing It's been restored. I'm not sure where it is at the moment But South private collection somewhere. It's somewhere how cool and so I grew up with that and So I go to his shop by the time I came around. He had retired from driving. Worked for bill stop for a while he worked for Bill Thomas for Awhile and Build Defame The Cheetah my dad designed the Cheetah. Fuck out of here. Yeah that's awesome bill. Thomas would like line. Answeer like druid engineering on the ground. And because that's one of the funky is looking cars ever made. I mean the did. The Cheetah is a is a properly dialed car. You could look at it and say you know. The First Viper might have been oh hired by that she does. Her funky is hell. If you're a driven one I haven't driven one but I've helped restore one when I was in high school which God I'd love to have a go. In one reason they look the way they look is because there's no driveshaft. The tail of the transmission connects career in one. You joint. Yeah that's so it's like how far back from above the above three quarter really does it. That motor is way back. Their brand lar- is behind the front axle. Cheese pedal box is underneath a couple of the head or no way. That's that's great. I think I saw one at Pebble. Beach one side happening so that really jump started his career and you know he that. Indie He actually got a commission to build an Indycar and so he told Bill Thomas that he was going to have to leave and take all his tools which happened to be the tools that were in. Thomas do his own thing but they say bill basically allowed him to build the Indycar in shops or the tools skits. Please stay they need. Your tortoise built the prototype that was aluminum and then There were fiberglass glass after ten wasn't all. There's not a lot this one. We're looking at. The color is spectacular. Gray gray green kind of thing. That's when I was a kid. I was very enamored with that car. My Dad never wanted to talk about it because it the whole thing didn't go down well with them but in the last five or ten years. He's kind of made his peace with it and now he's you now likes talking about it but there was a period where he just talk freely listening. It's like you take a third Gen Corvette and you just cut the trunk. And he sat on the axle. It's so short in the bank idea was this was supposed to go up against the Cobra. Yeah and it is Camaro. I mean sorry corvette based did any of never raise They did but the problem was Shelby I I don't know the history because I wasn't right there but basically around the time. The miss was being prepped to run against the Cobra. Shelby got the FAA to raise the homologation number And that basically made it so that this car seats five hundred. Yeah they could be enough to meet homologation requirements that year so had to race in the unlimited class against chaparrals. Yeah Yeah it won a couple of races and at some SEC events but it never reached its full potential and if you fit in this thing and be a riot to drive. I got two thousand pounds right. That's all I can say. Give me a call. Your Holy Hell. Wow so they built the car and Bill Thomas Shop. Yeah I built that. And then he went off and eventually opened his own shop in Anaheim. And that's when I started hanging out. And you know. Clean the bathrooms and sweeping his shop midgets and sprint cars. A big you know. Because that's how he got into indy is midgets sprint cars. That's the kind of car. Said he really was Accomplished at driving and and wanted to build on L. A. Had such a scene of that. I mean it was like we had a Jacob baggage on the show like a week ago. And you know his you know his grandfather. And whatever was like Mr India from California and So we were talking about all the race tracks around. La like there was like fifty six race tracks around. There's a super boring documentary. I forget what it was like where they raised. Its memory dude. Do you remember receiving on? Haven't seen it now. It's like it's not done great but if you want a nerd out on La History. It's extremely nerdy and an interesting in that way. Like I fucking. I'm so tired out on the Santa Monica Grand Prix. Yeah do you remember that? I don't remember it well. Yeah the Santa Monica this guy just mobbing his like Miller go crazy. Best of the year from motor press guild so but they There was an eight mile circuit. That went all the way around Santa Monica and Beverly Hills and they had the co- The death curve over the cliff where where several Santa became and no one actually ever died. My Dad basically did oval track stuff and sprints and midgets and that's what he sold and you know his company was called. Don Edmunds auto research. Which is interesting. 'cause EDMONDS The company. I just worked for kind of interesting that the names are that similar on another level But he Yeah if you wanted to win the midget National Championship Or do well and sprint cars. you had an auto research chassis and agony. Grandpa ran a few. Though they had on your chassis ran. Archdiocese King Lawn. I think was Th there was associated with a guy named Leonard Foss I. I'm I'm very hazy on this because I was probably ten when all this was going on. Have you driven a sprint car? Did School up and I think yeah. Kratz is is. I think one of the instructors needs to work for my dad. Who's that.
"edmunds" Discussed on The Smoking Tire
"Oh interesting then you know you just get all your times added together and that would be your score dirt because some rallycross is half tarmac. After it says you know players like the European style rally cross this is West Coast Rally Cross. It was more. Sec a auto cross on dirt. Yeah you know. Not like the race head-to-head type of auto cross up which is a phenomenal motorsport. Yeah Rally Cross is kind of got two or three different definitions depending on where you watch is preceded the rap wars of east coast so yes so Some of the races were at Well one was whole bill. Which is the racetrack. I had raised on on the pavement but in the rallycross were dirt in the in. Where like the trailers normally get and then another one was in boulder city at a on a dry lake bed. Oh yeah just a huge dry lake bed and actually get good speeds. Going big drifts. You're hanging came from the one on the far right there. I was GONNA ask you if it was El Mirage. Originally it's got a very but but the thing is is that there were like fifty five entries and I was the overall leader at lunch overall and there's four wheel drive Subaru's Egos and all that I mean I guess that makes you a pretty good driver Or they hadn't figured out rallycross yet and they still had their stiff springy suspension. Landing big jumps didn't exist if this was the first year. Rallycross California Rally series is like the sub club west coast that kind of Cherry pick some sea sanctioned racism so. I don't know if they still do it but I FRIEND RAISES RACIST RE RE stage rally with it covering this. Was you know they were the ones that were doing this press Kit Rally although sec sanctioned that is a pro rally but it was also a local points rally. And that's why I learned about this but it was going to be their inaugural year and so we'll rally cars to it if you beat a bunch of rally cars that would that's smooth you know. They're they're stiff. Suspension didn't do them any favors So this is totally saw this car. No I restored it about five years ago and for about the Twentieth Anniversary. Miana some more than five years ago and then I offered it to Mazda because it was kind of in my way and I thought maybe they could do something with it. They weren't interested then about three years after that. I got a call from them. Because the N. D. was about to come out and they wanted to kind of re you know recap twenty-five years of Mazda history and so they asked if I still would give it back to them so I did and then it went to the Chicago auto show and it went to Sima Show and went to all these different things. It's now their basement collection. Cool you say. Give it back to them. Well it started that way so I figured I'd give it to you. Did you ever actually by these dollar cars one of those things? Yeah we are okay. With dollar cars dollar cars are good. Usually they're crushers and they ended up getting destroyed and this one didn't they become Sima cars. I now yeah. Now they go to all the tuners and then they become Sima cars and then they like. Kinda isn't the manufacturing. Forget about them. Yeah I have a an F. Right now yeah. It's so good so good and it's not so well. Perfect shifting great They did a really good job with the steering like a super-low incredibly easy but then it it really liked tightens up. It's super accurate. Like everything about it is is awesome unless you need to carry stuff but or have like a Bluetooth Conversation Highway I was able to do that and I think he was louder for me than it was for the person I was talking to. You like they could hear me but I felt like I had to project so fun. The new motor loved Dated Motor. Very nice excellent. Well I got to drive a thirtieth anniversary. Which is the only one and it's probably got another name other than orange but I just thirty th anniversary and color color. The color scheme was orange and I got to drive that up to Laguna Seca. We can call it that now since bosses not Not Sponsor respects weathertech. There's no slayer jar like used to be. There's no you know isn't it? Weathertech Laguna Seca. But I don't think there is as worried about at his Mazda was when I think I'm not worried about getting pressed floor math so I don't need to worry about well. Yeah so this is a great collar that orange. It looks really good. So we had that to drive up to the thirtieth anniversary Miata reunion at Laguna Seca. And the guy who put that together Guy Name. Rick Weldon He talked Mazda into letting them display my car and the original Chicago car. So my car was. They're Nice. I got to drive it. Oh really which was the first time I've driven it in years. I got to bring my wife held a checkered flag day. Victory Lap with three hundred cars behind us. It was amazed. Didn't didn't Sam Smith go and drive like twenty five me out as an a day during. Its a good article. Good so yeah that I drove Flying MIATA and D..
"edmunds" Discussed on CarCast
"With four hundred eighty five horsepower. And you'll receive almost five thousand dollar cash allowance so if you get more power you get more off. It's that simple. So Hurry into your local dodge dealer today and take advantage of dodge power dollars so the other thing we don't take into account is the efficiency of of the electric vehicle. What I mean is is all right we all say? Hey it's got whatever battery it's got a range of two hundred and fifty miles. Maybe how how you drive a you can get to sixty to eighty five to ninety out of it but when you go home and you plug it in. What does it take to charge that that? What does it cost to charge it is it? Is it spinning your your little power meter like like an episode of the simpsons or something you know like the nuclear power plants running overtime trying to charge that thing. There's gotta be a way to like. Is that something we should be looking at as a comparising. One of the comparison factors between electric cars. We'll certainly that that has bearing you know that you know. Electric cars have different consumption rates. Just like gasoline powered cars and It's harder though to know how much you're actually using. Because you know most of the the chargers don't have meters on him like gas pumps do but you know like I have a juice box. That's the brand name at home and it has has a connection to a phone APP so I can see how many kilowatt hours it took to refill the battery after I drove it and kilowatt hours in electrical terms are are quantity like gallons of gasoline. And that's how you build on your electricity bill. So I'm Edison and I think I pay Twenty four cents a kilowatt kilowatt hour and so that works out to you know. Here's the problem with electric vehicles. There's math involved left. There is math and math involved because first of all you have to know what a kilowatt hour how much you're paying and then you're going to figure out how much it used and and and the meter meter in the car isn't going to tell you how much it takes to refill the battery because there are charging losses associated with charging the cord gets hot There's systems that make the battery happy while it's being charged those going amount to twenty percents so you put ten kilowatt hours in the battery. You have twelve that you paid for. And that's just a fact of life with electric vehicles but it all works out to. It's quite a bit cheaper than a gasoline clean car. Unless you've got a Prius and you drive really slowly so it's it's cheap. I mean we've had. I had two of them in our household for three years and we compare like the electricity bills from one year to the next when I didn't have an electric car and when I did. It didn't really change appreciably and that's because well we drove fifteen miles a day so it gets down to how many how many miles do you drive. Yeah does it it. Did you find any noticeable difference and it might not be significant any noticeable difference on when you're charging the car what it takes to charge the car based on the day or the temperature of the day or where the car is if it's cold outside and the cars outside or if it's hot in the summer and it's outside or versus.
"edmunds" Discussed on CarCast
"Vehicle testing and he did a long run with as the director vehicle. Testing over at EDMUNDS DOT com. And now he's on his own kind of doing his own thing available available for testing exactly for for everybody. Who wants them? So we're GONNA get into a few things with him but specifically I want to get into testing some of the electric vehicles. Because I think you I think you sort of embrace that earlier than anybody else. Soon as electric vehicles out there you started Arctic coming up with ways to not only test them but take the results and explain it to us The enthusiasts easiest in a way that will make sense to us because meanwhile the manufacturers and the marketing teams and even the government are throwing terms and words and stuff that us. That doesn't necessarily certainly make a lot of sense so we're trying to learn this new vocabulary so you're going to kind of break it down and tell us what's what's the real deal behind all of those so belts. We kicked off the show last week. We got about three and a half minutes into it. And and then you're you're you're meeting that that you were going into They called you started early. What's the big news brother? Oh man you know I got quite obviously i. I don't have enough things to do with myself so at fifty three years old. I embraced going back into the wrestling ring. You know there's a couple of things that I I haven't happen accomplish I suppose and Why not at the at the ripe old age of fifty three to dust off my boots one more time and go back in in there and try to beat the hell out of these young kids? Why not okay? So and you're not talking about them bringing new back like they've done a few times over the past few years to couple years we've been and doing the show together. You know you've gone in you've you've you've done undertaker and and a and a stint here and they are this is. This is a little a bit of a longer deal. This is a commitment. This is your in well. I'm in I'm in for right now. I'm in for Friday. I'm just or no down from first time. Yeah you know this world. I can't give anything away. The fact is you know I really don't know I mean We we are lucky enough to get opportunities and not look beyond the next one. So I'm GonNa take this one with a grain of salt and Maybe leads the more. Maybe maybe a dozen but the fact is is you know I went there. I was lucky enough to get that universal championship belt and I got taken away from me and I never got like a rematch. So I need I need at least before I hang everything up for good to To get that rematch and to know if I can still do it why not. There's a couple of kids out there. The neither acid kid I should I should show him a little respect. Okay so show me a little respect you without giving away what's coming. There's there's there's you there's bill there's there's the man and there's Goldberg that character Gobert the wrestler without giving away the Gobert storyline when an opportunity like this comes up does wwe get with you and say hey man comeback. Let's do a stint together. Let's see how it feels or do they say we want you to come back. And we've got some ideas creatively. What do you think do you know? Do you start working out some of the creative ideas now or they sign you. Then you go you figure it out as you go. Oh thankfully Through my years of Pounding the pavement. I I get a little bit more respect and so we have to talk about. We have to talk about creative before I consider you know doing anything thing like this again. I mean it has to be you know and I'm not a selfish guy it's not I'm not looking to come in and and Me He'd be the only beneficiary of of this latest stamp The fact is that there are a lot of kids out there that that You know another push Josh and Nita. Well her with an experienced guy and get some experience. Yeah your role has changed changed over the years. You're the veteran now. So your job is is to go back and be entertaining and be a little bit nostalgic aljic by getting back into the ring but of course it's going to be important for you to to advance the storyline and even the careers of some of the younger guys. Right like that's the whole that's the whole point of of of getting. You know the new guys in there with I. Don't WanNa say the older guys. Yeah that's that's that's part of the part of the allure of the business to I mean it's they they call it rub or they call it whatever you want but it's it's experience and at the end of the day here we go I I have I I continually have something to prove to myself every day that I'm on top of the ground and that's just the person that I am and I believe that I can still do this and I believe believe that. There's some kids out there that need A little A little teaching and I'm I'm kinda coming back to do that on this. I stamp and if it leads to something else wonderful. If it doesn't then you know at least I can. I can prove prove my point once. Yeah well Wrestlemainia so if you know a guy you let me guy I I know a guy. The last Wrestlemainia I went to is San Jose. maybe four five years ago San Jose at the Levi Stadium Blay by San Jose and it was fun. It was exciting. We it's always such a big show and and I tell you like the crowd is so good for those live events. It's just nuts. I can't imagine the exhilaration you feel with that kind of crowd. We've done live car cash. We walk out in their sixty people. And it's like this is so much fun. I can't believe these people are your listen and have some fun with us. I can't imagine what it's going out there and in front of fifty thousand people right right like no. You can't well. I don't want when you're when sure let's just be honest when I'm twenty five years old. I was on top of the world and impenetrable and thinking that I was invincible. Yeah Yeah I was not at fifty three. There's just a whole another group of things to do. Well rested that stress arrests that I went through then is one thing but it pales in comparison to what I'm going through right now Y- and let's be let's be honest again. You've been through this with me. A number of hi. Oh Yeah and how and how long have I had to prepare a very little. And but here's the thing every time we to like you've you've done this a million times but still every time. I you know every time I talk to you and you're like I've got to go and wrestling and do this thing. You're you're always you get a little nervous. You're like I gotta go do this again and I'm fifty three and I got to stand there with. No clothes. Goes on basically with a bunch of guys half my age and I just WanNa bring the best show ever. I don't want to fail. Anybody got like like. There's a lot of pressure to perform at least fifty people. I get to wear whatever I want to put it this way if I had the choice this time I'd be you wearing a burqa right. Well that's the do Goldberg Look. Is Governor grid a trench coat. That'll go well. Congratulations on the new deal. It's GONNA be exciting. I will be watching of course and I know everything that you're GonNa do out there you're going to bring a one hundred percent As you as you always do. So it's exciting and I'm sure it's GonNa be fun for Gauge as well as your family. Get the get go in there and and and you know yell at the youngsters and beat up some people and and have some fun for for sure that their high. Yeah well. That's that's a big announcement. I WanNa talk a little bit about. I've been testing this The jeep gladiator. I'm not necessarily a Jeep Guy Kyw because I've always seen the jeep. Ah such a tool like. It's such a functional vehicle and living here in La. It's it's sort or have become more and more people just run around the streets with the jeep and I'm like yeah but you looking at me as dad Ed's rolled of it as jeep that I and but you've done more offering an offroad testing than anybody I know so I I so I got the jeep. Gladiator got the Rubicon. Rubicon is the one. It's the one that's got all the good bits and pieces on it right. It's got the big tires. It's got the thirty three three inch tires. And I believe Cho- hooks all over the place on it and it's like a winch ready bumper in the front. They can pop out like a plastic cover and you can put there. Yeah Yeah but still yeah. This one has the convertible top and I looked at the book I was like. I'm going to put the convertible top down opened the book because like now it's GonNa take me a month Sunday figure that out J. K. Book. Yeah yeah well it said first of all said you need these tools and had taken on Yahud it down because because that that wasn't completely clear when I flip through it but it has all of the jeep stuff that I expected it. It felt a little utilitarian in the inside. Like kind of Flat Dash. Shouldn't they brought in some of that body color sort of a play. I'm driving a red one. And the Dash Dash looks like it's analyzed read. Write it now and You know the more traditional like the automatic shifter then the four-wheel-drive four wheel drive shifted are the two you know. We'll drive the four the four low Had some pretty cool features where you can disconnect the fronts way bar electronically now with the button. And you don't have to get out of your vehicle to it by the way foil that turn the hubs. You don't have to do all that everything's electronic now now and so. I could see a very functional off road vehicle but do you. Do you need it to to putter around the streets of L. A.. I I yeah I don't I don't know and the gladiators like yeah but it's got the pick up truck bed and the doors come off. I'm like yeah you can just buy convertible or by truck or you know. Yeah but some people you know they wanNA have a jeep go off road. And Yeah those rubicon features the locking diff the disconnecting stabiliser bar and low range and all that and get out there and do that but then they actually need a truck. You know Monday through Friday. And then there are the overlander who who want to carry some some gear with them and use. That's becoming more and more popular. So the gladiators Kinda hitting at the right time for that right. Okay so I will add to. This is although I see it as a functional vehicle vehicle that's and it doesn't fit my lifestyle but it does fit that lifestyle. If you if you do pop up to the to the mountains and you go skiing or you do a little bit off roading or you can i..
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"This down and mail it to myself Mansion Convention time market. This the being podcast of the same as a patent by the talk. Mailing the idea to yourself. You know not opening it. uh-huh Ghetto Patent Nathan says. Matt could I drive my Arthur to Gtri with a helmet on. I'd love to track one it but it's six four. I don't know if it's possible awesome. It's like he owns it. He's cutting it close. He owns the helmet. I think he I'm sure he owns the helmet. Doesn't here's an car. Okay okay. Yeah that'd be yeah go outside. So here's five bucks. Well my helmet on my head in the car. That's outside probably built for very very short. I never tried and I don't know the answer but if I had to guess and I think if you go back and watch the video that I did with my car when I I'm pretty sure my head it was pretty close. That was a that was an issue. I remember on Are Two forty S.. Axes well we want to put that if you put a smart. He didn't WanNa make sure it's low low low but I imagine with our thirty. Two's there's enough. There's a robust enough aftermarket. You could probably get really skinny. Rails that could relocate that seat down I mean if you if you really are interested rested in trackwork and you're six foot four honestly I would say you should look into a seat and have it bolted to the floor and you'll be really comfortable. That's that's what I would do do. I don't think you'll fit in the regular seat comfortably with helmet on but like what I would do. Is I'd get on social media and just look for someone in your town that's got a skyline and we'll let you sit in it for a minute and I assure you someone in your town will let you sit in their skyline to see if you fit. I assure you Marcello says Alpha List Stelvio or a Buick Tore X.. For a fun family daily driver okay through darts at a board now I mean I get a question. Yeah I drove a Stelvio and my impression neither really fast. Yeah drove the slow on my impression was it was a Mazda. C X five with Turbo on Mazda now makes a c x five with a turbo on it so I would say that. Yeah I mean if you're looking for a really fun to drive Dr. SUV like mazdas. Probably Direction to go to write Yes W is pretty fun from what I remember from the drive event but I remember like not so much. Turmoil lag had crazy amount of turbo. Yeah but like also neither be my first choice for right but has to be one of those two. I liked the tour. We had one on like he was good looking other than the giant giant Buick Badge in the front. How bad but it's also huge? We could fit. I think six inch Suction Cup on the front of it and that is rare mercedeses as is getting there. But that's a test for like come down. The Buick Badge is so not cool. It's so you'll grow looking. It just looks older fought right do is ask lake eight year olds and fifteen year olds. Do you know what a Buick is like. I'm not trying to make fun funded the brain like it'd be interesting to see how aware they are of it. Then do that testing China point. I get it but it's weird Brad. Brownell from of Atwood fame. He's one of the redwood guys. He has a tour ex and he loves it. Yeah remember the to your car isn't it. It's basically an Opel outback rights. Three sure what what you're looking at is an Opel outback with Buick Badge. Pretty quick to my knowledge. A little hazy. If you'll forgive the last Buick drove was when they brought back the GS Monaco a it was like I drove. Wow this would be a great sob Okay Justin says. What do y'all think about meth injection maintenance? The kids Sorry she felt like those kind of like power. Adar's I just. They seem annoying to me. It seems like it's one of those things that definitely works works. Yeah but I don't want to have to think about that almost exactly like you know high performance stuff. I just want stuff that just works all the time that thinking about it. Look the comparison and I would make is like I built computers all like I like building peers. Do every couple of years and you can do the same kind of crazy boo koo like water injection stuff that really makes it. Just make it conservative so just runs every time you have to worry about tinkering with all these little details to keep it working. I know it was popular note works but I can't imagine oh wait. I don't have a hundred horsepower because it didn't fill Injectors and I had to consider up to now two separate fuel storage in my garage now to make this work. It's just so so complicated almost every time. I've gone to make a film with a car that uses these. We've run out. Almost I mean almost every time and like I. I've never found that the trade trade-off is worth the headache of trying to deal with the the tanker ship. Also I think a Lotta people like the. Oem's do it like the BMW What was it called? What's at the Water Cooler air power people want to see that number and put on the forum or think about it but honestly yes? He's like not using it. It's fantasy anyway my favorite was reading nitrous and never use it. This guy the nine hundred horsepower shop truck is an F.. One fifty it looks like nothing. And he put a blower at. That's good for like two thousand horsepower. But he has nine. He's like yeah because I just run it five piece I want to blow up your smart. You feel it's under stressed. He doesn't have to add things to get ten twenty thirty more horsepower. Yeah I mean that's that's I could go on about that but I don't get the appeal of okay modern sport because we were talking about this. I'm never wanting for more power. No I've never got out of a modern sports car. Above let's say forty fifty grand like you know let's be good of add another fifteen hundred seventy horsepower. I feel like that about the Z. Eighty six right. I feel like that about that may be it like everything from a Mustang. GT upwards. I'm like this is good blogs at our this. Yeah Yeah if if you feel like you're running out of power I guarantee you're not you know in in In the mountains here peak usable power is like four hundred. That's that's even less to use less power better gearing in better through Glenn says how much can a novice learn about performance driving from a good simulator game. I E A set of course or project cars with a wheel and pedal setup. I think a decent amount. Yeah I would say it gets the theory part right and the basics of and you lose the sense of inertia and yeah meant and that is a big indicator of feedback and you know what the wheels are doing what the tires are doing doing Also I that's a big element of fear which is most would hold that most people in driving rights easy to do at the breaking in simulator. Because you're not worrying about flying lying off the track so it gets you maybe thirty percent if you combine it with some real real world experience on a real race track in a real car you can get a lot out of it and if you're going to a new track it can certainly improve your learning curve but it's eight is not a full on substitute for real driving. I if he's asking as a rookie just learning the basics right that was the question Yeah Novice Yeah. Yeah that's that's a good avenue down definitely helps you with racing advocate. Help you learn how to like. Set up a pass and like you know do racing shit but in terms of like the basics of vehicle dynamics of the limit like it's not really a good substitute. Yeah it it it'll get you it'll start you on the right path and so it's a good idea so good good do it E- Ferdie Fix S. I read that name exactly as written K.. Would you spend two hundred okay for a singer. Find version of an s fifty four powered BMW e thirty..
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"Simulated hot stone massage Mercedes also has all that active comfort stuff where you put it on video. That tells you how to move of your legs and I don't know if it's made me down from like the s classes or the S. L. Classes but. Yeah they have like thing you can turn on and it tells you how to rotate your shoulder and the the charges were definitely on this. I think we flew to Thailand the airline. I've been on an airline. That was Singapore air something and they did the same thing where it was like. Eight hours into the flight of video just came on all the time exercise. You don't get a blood clot come out. I'm from and actually and you're GONNA have to peddle that's awesome yeah So we have a thumbs up on south so thumbs up on GDP it's a real good time to be into sports cars right now. I was Kinda bummed when I was like. Why didn't I get invited to the Geneva and then I realized Travis sent me to the R. are eight launch because someone else from road and track got to got to hook? I think. Excuse me to their thing yet to complain about. I think he liked the carly really. Did I think he did. I mean he's a tough one on different waves. He's a very tough one to please. Yeah I was his His instagram view is good. Yeah but he liked it a lot. Seventy five hundred and We wrote a lot go see Comedians instagram. His review of it. It's on it's on instagram. Days can be so when they come out here and I'm excited though I mean it's it what's not to like that can put power down and handle well to. How's how's that a bad habit? Has I imagine at slow speeds. It has good manners. Yes you could mean. We drove in Vegas so again tough to gauge ride quality and is that based on the roads but it was totally loveable. Not I mean even the hardcore track pack version which is lower and should be firmer fine. Yeah that's good. That's what I like. That's it's so amazing that you can build these cars where the envelopes are dislike insane. Oh fuck in power and also like twenty five miles a gallon maybe right or whatever over like crazy overdrive you can just park in the in the high twenties in a McLaren. Seven twenty nine. I mean that's just ridiculous. That's that's just just crazy that you can do something like that things. Eight hundred horsepower. It's great it's a real good so good benefit all the sufficiency right. Yeah Yeah that's the side effect taxes. You get good fuel economy as well as a gazillion horsepower filling in the nineties. You know an early two thousands. I always complain like Kinda like the late sixties early seventies like drag racing hot rods muscle cars. All that shit before small came in. You know it was. It seemed like it was more fun and then now I don't I disagree with my previous self. Thank you can get seven hundred horsepower with all these systems around. You could be comfortable or it can handle which is a good thing can stop which is a good thing carson you so much. I think you're on the right track from a design perspective back though and by the way it's the old shit you can still hear you can still have very true. That's your there's just more laws but yes it's more challenging and they've been around for forty years now so yeah didn't change much but that's so true Dr my truck once a month and every time I do like Oh yeah this is all the orange by some time you gotta drive it love to. It's definitely a harsh reminder driving. These things actually like they actually at the Judy one hundred launch sixty seventy five hundred zero. Yeah Dr Yeah drove it around the parking lot ship you know Practice time yeah all right and it kind of looks funky in today's cast against the context of modern car today But it's it's a new car. I tell you what when I drive. It's very pretty the one we saw right outside here. I wonder if it knows it come loose. Oh yeah yeah right literally as we as caused and I walked Upstairs there was same color probably same year convertible just cruising by an England But it's it's whenever I drive older European cars the night like like when I drove a gull wing and when I first show a porsche three fifty six. It was a lot nicer than I expected expected. Sixty SPA car. I'm like fuck. It works both of those cars cost way more money than at the time they had. I mean there was an engineering difference had twisty roads not big. It's not like a mystery why it feels dangerous at fifty miles an hour. Assuming that's actually true fifty. I don't know the speedometers Zeno doing this thing I drove of Three hundred S L roadster as Nice right it was. I've always been luther. Don't meet your heroes like the reality is never as you matches your dreams your fantasy nitro this thing. It was like. Oh No. This is perfect everything I hoped for. And more this daily one of those cleary pretty easy to pretty easy Lewis easy to drive and just the sound of that engine under under the sound of the thrall take on that thing. It's just fantastic. Yeah I got to drive one for a video pretty glorious we when I drove it. You're doing a group shoot. I I was in the car. I'm like I'm not getting out of this. Is Everybody luncheon here. I'm not getting out of this. Do else is gonNA drop in their them three six two. They're really they're so easy everything's Nice. Yeah what else. Anything else other than these two beautiful Like high end sports cars. That's been the most exciting stuff lately. If I'm totally honest I spend a lot of time. I'm in her model three. These are getting pretty far back in terms of in terms of time. Your instagram is needed to be updated. Properly should be But the GDP one hundred review is on honor Youtube Channel YouTube dot com slash edmonds playing really smoothly. And we've been doing a lot of stuff in that channel to where We're really focusing our game. Are you on video pivot to video but away from fucking facebook happened a while ago right But we've been doing a lot of stuff left lately with With regard to video that I'm really proud of because I'm trying to drive a lot of the creative there and so I'm proud of this stuff that we have trying new things you know. make us up making content. That should be more more interesting for people to watch and road. Noise is good name Roy. Good Name Yeah. Yeah we that took a long time to come up. It does all good car punt names names are taken aims or hardest shit like six months of just writing words. Come up with the smoking. Yeah Yeah Get to the Super Chat folks. Yeah I know. There's a lot that people want to talk.
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"No other reason it did you win. Seemed like a really good reason time Actually we had such a nice dry. Yes so fucking you. On the way home was rough. roff was great souvenir I picked up the box. And that's GonNa be thousand dollars that'd be fine but Fuck Mao weird weird but the model three one foot pedal driving is a new is a new thing you know in that I. I'd argue. That car might have the the best steering among that group Turn off the sport steering. Just leave it and it's normal regular. It's you drive that back to back with new three series it makes me wonder what they're doing it. BMW I've been consistently disappointed with BMW's steering in the last two years in the whole of what happened. The whole irony model three is everybody's going on autopilot. When really just turn that stuff off and drive the car? Yeah it's good. It's a really pleasant driving experience but then it has to be exciting one and it's different. You said to new so I think you you might be able to get up a piece of that experience. An Eagle for something like it's quiet silent rides different but it's an. It's a new experience which is nice like I love the C.. Sixty three am g but the the reality is if if you buy one you can't go drifting and drag racing and make much noise and go super fast all the time. Yeah so well. The experience hearings have driving those kinds of cars around it You don't get to reward yourself as much. Yeah yeah getting into Tesla were similar carbon this this case the tesla right now like it's an interesting interesting to explore it like any speed the thing that it does it does kind of all the time. Yeah you can explore its acceleration potential on the commute MHM right well. That's an interesting thing So Jason was saying there's a friend who has a GT three like rs and also a tesla and his wife's like I don't get it. I get motion sick in the tests. I can't ride with him. and He. He rode with him once and he rise up and the cars too fast. It's that The husband was driving more aggressively. In the Tesla. Yeah from zero. Because you just can't get away with it you're the beating on. It isn't really there. You don't need to have any kind of like mechanical sympathy. Fi shift I you know you don't need to worry about clutch engagement nail there's no audible signal of your gun kind of up there. Watch out like go but it's yeah. I think it's going to be a fun week. I'm looking forward to it. You have a good time. Yeah it's cushion after Sumitomo because you can change the speaker that it plays out if you could change that sound real stupid wait. Can we circle back to judy. Five hundred because I genuinely interested and we took a left at corvette In general with corvette though worth the money I think it's my God. Yeah it's worth it was better than its couple higher levels higher than worth the money right like the combination of features in that car you cannot reproduce. Yeah it's very nice. It's yeah it was a little. It's still it's still pretty valley for me absolutely but you know for what the the one that was gonNA unimpressed. It's like eighty five eighty seven sixty. We're are companies buying one base one. We bought a seventy five thousand dollar one going to get a base one. So there's not there's not gonNA be any base press call. WE'LL BE MU based press card on. That story will get out there. We'll review Abass car. We'll test debates Carter Sec- to see but we bought the one you would want with P T M with Z fifty. One with all the performance. Good he's probably got to Lt. Yes yeah to Lt. The and the one I drove was eighty seven three Lt. Yep Looks Nice. It was nice. I'd like to see what the differences between two and three. I don't really know it had a bunch of carbon fiber's pretty decent. It's pretty decent but when I got in it smelled like a chevy thousand percent chevy smell. Yeah Yeah it's that was a new car smell either Chevy such traditional you know Smell we know that smell with with The you know I I really enjoy driving that car on track. I really enjoy driving on the road and then the question is how much do you would you tolerate for discount. This is the same conversation we had when the Andrews in the front the conversation a toy. It's still has the court in my view is still has the fundamental value aspect like nails for sixty grand. I mean that that that car is basically wiped the Super Narrative off all my God. I love the super. I drove the super back. toback with it deservedly wiped. I really liked the super super is fine in isolation driving part of a comparison test. Oh it's not good. It's a shame it's okay. They'll be so so does the BMW to You know when you drive it next to a bunch of mid engine stuff like this get out of it by the way you. I'm not just going to have that one cents crapping on the the into the video on the track right crap on it while driving it also the RCN which I was not kind to the track. Yeah for ninety. He six thousand dollars. I mean to me. See It really shows Some of the now say faults but lack of Real L. aggressive design planning like kind of as a miracle sixty grand rate assu assuming the car it might be. There's a lot of caveats But you know look at 'em for Yeah Right. Look at C.. Sixty three look at all those really expensive luxury sixty three M. Four for over one hundred thousand dollars right now I think for up there. CSI think might be a hustler. Might be up there. You won't be surprised And so you know nine eleven in starts with the manual now like one eleven tags you can get an ass right as a manual. You left with if you look at MIT engineers at seven eighteen. And unless it's this. Don't you dare nor my Lotus of orgy. My Good Bilo to Sephora. Gt May manual yearbook. I haven't been in a four. Oh we need to call chlorine the Laura. GT's okay. I gotTA drive it. Yeah you know. I think I'll get off the corvette for the time we've been on for a while and go back to. Gt five hundred yeah GDP hundreds. So how does it manage seven hundred sixty horsepower really well. It'd be through an advanced traction management system. Just I actually go there. It's a tunes to system for for the car. Of course if you match the gas from stop you're GONNA make a ton of smoke disappear right like obviously but We were looking break standard. You got there. That's the factory line lock factory landlords combination of line lock in dual clutch gearbox. I don't know if I've ever seen that question and I don't know it's still clutch yet. Area interesting yeah. It should be able to work.
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"Or just like yelling each number. No Yeah I know you just here. I just coming out of the bathroom here. Twenty four twenty five and they're just counting. BMW body. paddles like all over the fucking crazy. So the the issue the issue for me personally was That thing in idle stereo off quite environment has has quite a bit of that doing that. Direct injection noise that sort of sewing knowing machine on. Yeah and then at part throttle like when you're merging on a freeway at a normal human pace that car dot com proud for me so it may be one of the things like your transmission issue that it was just the car that I drove. It could also be something that I didn't really notice because we didn't do any like around Tau drive. You really were. We're on track. And I had a fucking helmet on was beating piss out of it and then we were up kind of doing canyon driving. So did you enjoy it. Dynamically really like that cards and amicably. How good is the right at the right? Amazing amazing in like the funny thing is you know. We're doing some back-to-back driving with other sports cars and the steering doesn't have in comfort mode and all that set up it doesn't have that like immediate nine eleven on right steering right isn't it does boxer spider or spiders the same exactly but thinking about okay. Okay if I'm commuting to work in the middle of this country and I just want to one handed on the freeway at eighty miles an hour that makes a really compelling case. I didn't like the scorned. The sport mode steering. I thought too much weight I drove it in like the Middle One and I preferred that. Yeah and that was the case with a Camaros. Well I thought like I don't like any of those and I've got the Tesla allowed side right now. The the heavy steering stupid in that way too. I don't need that artificial heaviness like but The steering was real. I thought it was really sharp purpose. Slightly video gaming but It's pretty good. I don't know about the square wheel yet. I yeah. New People have complaints. I love the fact that it gives you a really a clear view of the gauge cluster. I and that's the problem with the nine eleven I know. It's charmingly fucking like the nine eleven. The idea that the Germans would do a throwback gauge cluster. That's gorgeous gorgeous. Oranges the steering wheel blocked back back in the day amid it continues to fucking block. It's gorgeous gauge cluster. And I put the wheel at the bottom of the travel. Generally top rim is just boop it's gone on the side gauges fully blocked. And here's the thing with the tax long as you can see redline who cares right. That's the most important part but you know from I'm a just a pure visual standpoint white white. Can I see the issue of of the gauge cluster. Being too wide the shape of the steering wheel if you had a square wheel unless it was a rectangle angle was huge knowing rallies around it really does surround the gay the the screen is.
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"Six that eighties like thirty five hundred all an MPG play. Because there's so many cars like this guy it's just the gearing as is so ridiculous it's got to be not knowing what the fuel economy standards armchair but could look them up. It's got to be some advantage there but Sex goes to seventy seventy three and third goes to a hundred thirteen. Fourth goes to like one hundred thirty. My problem with that philosophically is like you might as well just have an automatic at that point point. I mean you're shifting you know what I loved about shame because the shift during the paddles are so good like it's fun to use them and it's not hard like nick. It's great yeah. They win when a company does it. Well you know what's great about the Mustang three or four years ago you get really tight ratio gearbox in that thing other twenty fifteen which a lot and that's like great this is why I have a manual shifting. 's Fun this is. Why do experience? Yeah so we don't. We don't need to shift an interest requirement. Especially when you have an engine it probably sounds amazing too. Yeah it's like kind of missed opportunity right. Yeah I mean look you can shifted more jerk but if you you're going to be going as fast as the car will go. You're not going to be doing a lot of shifting your falling out of power if you if you have too much because you don't WanNa read line everything because you don't want to Eh power but yeah yeah I mean if you're if you're on it that power band is really four to eight maybe even five date and so if you want to you know there's not a lot a lot of places you can be going to drive it. s only to drive in you know what though liars sweet. It's still awesome. Yeah you know for one hundred and five grand. which is the price that car? Yeah I think that's the best Porsche you can buy for that money in five a lot is it's a lot but you're just getting into career as at that. That's the scary Tristan on and and you're not getting anywhere near and other engine for that much money in a porsche anymore. And it looks very looking does it. Looks good in. Its and honestly you give zero practicality. Yeah drove I drove it so far. The trunk is huge. The back trunk is huge. The seats are the CARBONS Arbin but they're comfy like they're they're they're made of the the shape of them is the correct shape. So you could sit in it for seven hours and it's fine. Let's end the top up is actually like I was driving. Deepen the triple digits like listening to a podcast at a normal volume. That's one of those unspoken traits a lot of sports cars gain recently. You know like you know power has gone up like comfort is also increase at the same level as performance right like modern in sports cars. These days are really comfortable. You know especially like seven twenty or something like yeah totally drive it every day and when you when you hop in a car. That isn't that comfortable a sports car and it's even if it's faster.
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"You say if you say like we don't want any yeah and they're still there yeah. I don't recall exactly the interaction interaction. I don't think I don't want to say the magic was forced on us. I WanNa say that more we he just didn't get the social cue trapped. Yeah Yeah I like no thank you thank thank you anyway. My using the term to describe his appearance on YELP led to a ban which is which you know. Okay Fair that's actually fair Asked me if I've ever been to that restaurant again. It was okay by by the way food. Not that crazy wonder if the magician was hired by the restaurant it seemed like it was a promotional thing. He's restraint on his best yup and with that. This podcast I always Carlos Lago. Do Flimsy Ed's months and in total Hodel Edmonds fashiony rolled up in a camry rolled up in our long-term Toyota Camry. It's got thirty five thousand miles on it now on. Let me guess it works. It works great as any new car shooting. Thirty five thousand miles on it. But Yeah I've been in that for two weeks angle. That Michael Little more pointed towards your face Dow Down where I Sorry I think Cammisa robot steering field is better than any non. MBM W right now. Is that true. Well I mean kind of low bar right pretty low bar it. Is that true. You say the camera I don't know I have to drive the two back to back but you know the the modern camry this new generation of Camry. Actually there's a lot of things roll from driving perspective like the engine really wants to rev and it feels good when you do it has you. has anyone tried to fit the avoid super charger on yet. I'm sure my work right. I kinda does but I think yeah. I think you'd have to find a hood or something in the camera. Doesn't do anything wrong per se like I think the transmissions a little clunky more than it's a kind of an antiquated auto right and you get some harsh shifts every now and again nothing again terrible. But it's like it's probably shouldn't be the case for this kind of car like as as that's why as a brand. We liked the accord more but like why wouldn't fault anybody for getting a camera. I think the camera looks better. It's I when I see him on the road and I'm like That looks Nice. Yeah the only thing missiles and look right. Is that a weird plastic vent underneath the tail lights. Oh yeah a little like. I don't know what you call them. But they're just these weird little detail. Not Yeah. I guess it's like a contrast asks detail. It's supposed to look like an extractor type then. Yes definitely isn't one of those vestigial things from the concept that should have Yeah what colors does that hide. It like Black Black Friday. I've seen a couple of like people are like murdering them out. Yeah the the black wheels let s not bad I think with the V six. It has almost like three hundred horsepower. So it can scoot with the right set-up I've had a had a COUPLA Zuber's yeah they're they're fine totally fine car you know. The interior photon one of them. Had like a red look. Nice pretty upscale. Oh do they do the superman finger. Lexus does with the blue outside in the red inside. I think it was just a great car. Yeah they'll say our car. Does this really cool thing with Bluetooth audio audio. It just doesn't work no matter what And in fact when I connect my audience just fucked so the phone fine. No problem But Music I kept my phone phone every five minutes maybe a minute it gets Bluetooth Audio Device Connected Bluetooth audio device disconnect so actually drove the Vegas last week for the GT five hundred launch. ooh ooh and that was real fun without satellite or any streaming audio sucks There is an interesting. FM New Electronics to be fair to integrate these systems. Having even if they're not they've got some time to catch you up I mean. Is that considered broken or was that okay. That's a big deal. I yeah yeah and I think there's a couple people at the office who are on Android that have had the same problem. Twitter stuff is getting better in that regard like they're they're bringing apple carplay that bring an android auto. Yeah right it's some of those nine Bluetooth carplay chime about and and now they can no now. You can do multiple things at once so like I can fuck and fast forward. My podcasts a little bit without like having the screen Change from my ways. That's Nice Real Nice. That's nice so it's nice about the updated android auto stuff too. You can do that while you have the right ways up. Yes when I mean Oh okay Oh yeah you can do other things with your phone. No so I mean you can do this stuff on the screen without looking at your phone. dotto Oh and where does it put this. Where does it put the ways screaming? Yeah we'll you have like you. Divide the screen and up by quarters but even more than that like the top major sections the map and then you have like fast forward play and reward the whole yeah. The home screen on carplay will do that. They'll do it with ways. They may only do with apple maps. Yeah typically I go full screen wayes and then I have a mount for my phone and so I leave. I leave the music controls on the phone screen and then the ways on there because I just did like boxers spider twelve hundred fifty miles off the best. It's not bad. Twelve hundred fifty miles in thirty six thousand the bad would you drive from La to Santa Rosa Okay Flavor Town USA. Good Times good times driven the bass. Yeah Yeah I mean it's well it's it's the best but but obviously not the best because of the Cayman Complex where no box store came in will will ever be better than a nine eleven so it would be the best if it had the. Gt three engine. Sure yeah the second best like most things would ask for pizza. Four leader it. Just not the. Isn't it weird. That Porsche makes two four leaders. Doesn't that seem harder than making more. Yeah it seems easier than getting their upscale market back when you give lower car the good engine the conspiracy theorist Chris and me makes me want to say like they put the former leader name on there just to confuse people. I know that's not true at all. That's not something they would do but I wonder how many people are no. But that's a very pleasant side-effect. Yeah how many people were thinking. Oh Yeah it's got four leader so for those who had no idea what we're talking about the INBOX or spiders. The came is the same now as the Cayman. Gt Four. You're boxers spider in the past was a little different from came and Gd for now now it's a printing our program and so came in GT. Four and boxer spider are the same car car except for the roof. Yeah same suspension. Same engine. Same wheels brakes body work. All that Shit's the same except for the roof and because the Cayman is a boxer with a roof and not the other way around they weigh the same so that cars thirty one twenty. It's the lightest car they make. That's fantastic so you. The engine is a four leader. But what they do is they take the Carreira three leader. They bore it. Stroke it and take the turbos off And they I think it has new aheads. It's got it's got a lot of new stuff. It's a new engine and instead of having a nine like the GT three to eight and this car is a euro car. So it's got that funky stupid filter on it. The yeah so this one sounded kind of weird and apparently the. US cars are going to sound better than this. But so but I don't know But it's still sounds pretty pretty has a gearing on that same. This is the tall crazy tastes the toll thing and so I didn't really like when I drove it from Venice to Santa Rosa and back. The tall gearing didn't bother me so much. It's actually pretty decently geared for like road tripping but then I went on the Canyon Indians and started mobbing. Dude you can drive upper big Tahonga in like when you did you hit the video yet. No so when you see the video I go i. I'd pull out of the fucking star first year second year third year stays never touch it. It's in third year for the entire remainder of the video. And I make a point of it like imagine other big Tahonga in third gear only and just not needing to shift ever. Wow because it's It's some legs third. Yeah third year by the way MAX is out at one hundred thirteen miles an hour. That's so sad. His feet six. Okay well I mean you know. I guess it's in just one hundred thirteen six six that eighties like thirty five hundred all an MPG play. Because there's so many cars like this guy it's just the gearing as is so ridiculous it's got to be not knowing.