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"ed valentine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

02:46 min | 2 weeks ago

"ed valentine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Is there anything you know if you're looking at this game just tell me why you think the steelers are going to win this game, and if the giants are able to pull an upset and we did we did talk about this a little bit in our five questions if they're able to pull an upset. What. Is it that the giants might be able to exploit to get that done? So I know that I did a whole podcast by myself on our morning show that's going to. It's going to be out on Friday morning about how this game is not going to be a cakewalk for the steelers I pump up the defense because the defense is really good. But at the same time, if there is a weak link for the defense, it is in the running game and they lose j von Hargrave, their nose tackle and free agents either the eagles, and now they really don't have that stalwart in the middle. They don't use that position that much they still just. Stake one Barclays, the key. There's two keys in my opinion for the giants to upset the steelers. They have to play clean brand of. But they need to run the football well, if they can set up Daniel Jones for third manageable, that's where he's GonNa Thrive. That's where every quarterbacks gonNA thrive. You set up third long urine trouble. That's just fact especially with the steelers in the way. Did they get after the passer especially against the giants offensive line which I know that they're book and tackles are not necessarily someone played. I wouldn't write home about and we'll put it that way On the other side of the ball steelers start to turn it over. That's how you lose this game. That's how the steelers lose his game. They've done it before whether it's rothlisberger whether it was Rudolph and hodges last year it doesn't matter who's a quarterback if they fumbled the ball if they turn it over but the interceptions, special teams, turnovers or killers anytime they decide they're going to cough the ball up in some way shape or form and give extra possessions the opposition. And if you combine that with Saquon, Barkley having success running the football especially on first and second downs, the steelers are going to be in for a dog fight I do think the steelers win this game but I don't think it's going to be a blowout I would be stunned if the steelers win by more than touchdown, I'll put it that way but I do think this year's win the game. Well, we'll both look forward to Monday night. Jeff, you know. Thank you very very much for for coming on folks checkout behind the steel curtain. For All of your steelers needs and Jeff just one request before I let you go. Please pass along the memo to T. J. Watt to keep his hands to himself on Monday night leave Daniel Jones alone. Pretend he's got to Red Jersey on and just just run by him. Let him, we let him leave Jones alone. I don't know if they'll do that. I don't think he's GonNa Listen. He's a pretty fierce competitor. Jeff thank you very much for coming on giants..

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"ed valentine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

06:46 min | 2 weeks ago

"ed valentine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Rothlisberger has proven time and time again that he is capable of making every single throw that a quarterback in the NFL level would need to make at a high level and that's something that he spoke about to the press but he also spoke to teammates and others about how he wasn't going to come back. If he wasn't going be at a comeback one, hundred percent now, the one thing to keep in mind with his elbow injury is, yes he did have surgery surgery wasn quite Tommy John I'm not sure the exact difference, but it was close enough to say that. He is spoken about how this elbow injury not to verity of what it was had been lingering for years, and so we saw since Mike Wallace's departure at probably a good watermark for this rothlisburger used to own the deep ball. It was one of the best throws in his arsenal in all of a sudden it just started waning a little bit he. Wasn't getting the same aumf on the throw it accuracy was off. Don't be surprised if that wasn't a little bit because of the elbow and then finally last last year to nineteen in week two against Seattle right before halftime deep audited Juju Smith. Schuster. It goes again just POPs and he tour a lot of the flexes right off the elbow and was it. He said that he actually doesn't have any discomfort anymore when he throws the football since having his elbow surgically repaired and it's probably because they were prepared some of the damage that had already been existing there before. So I I know, Kevin Colbert. The general manager spoke openly about he felt the den could come back to be better and stronger than what he was before in the fans kind of scoffed at that saying that's just Poppycock in this jargon that Tim towing the company line, but come to find out that might actually be true I. Think Rothlisberger is going to be nervous. He said that he's going to be nervous. He's going to have a lot of pre-game jitters something that he probably hasn't had a really long time considering that two thousand and four draught glass. But from an arm strength standpoint, I don't think there's anything left for him to check off the to do list before week one, he needs to take hit. As he says, I want to get hit I WANNA get popped. On back the game kind of fall back into rhythm, and then he'll be able to move on. That's really the last thing he has to do. All right. Interesting will be looking forward to seeing. Just how much zippy does actually have on the ball on Monday night so we'll see how that goes. It's I know Pittsburgh fans are are thrilled. They're not watching Mason Rudolph and whoever else tried to play quarterback Yeah Devlin Hodges are duck as they call them with a third stringer I mean that was brutal to watch because you had to rookies essentially, Devlin Hodges was undrafted rookie mason didn't even dress a game, his rookie year zero experience and outside of the preseason mind you in. You could just tell that above the neck is where the steelers, they couldn't check out a plays. They just couldn't read the defense well, the in terms of actual running near routes, and that's like high school football stuff and it was just it was tough to watch. It really was difficult. They averaged eighteen point eight games points per game last season and didn't even hit the thirty point mark once. That's how bad it was. So yeah, steeler fans are excited. There it goes. So let's talk a little bit. Let's talk a little bit about the other side of the ball about the the Pittsburgh defense now obviously, steelers fans are accustomed to. Really really good defense going back. You know obviously going back to the Chuck Noll era a going back all the way to Joe Green and and all of those guys just. Look at this Pittsburgh defense. T., J. Watt, but depre- coming off the edges minkah Fitzpatrick in the back. Good is this defense. I think they're very good and they're so different than any other errors that you mentioned. You talk about the steel curtain, the seventies you talk about Blitzburgh in the nineties with Greg Lloyd and Kevin Greene and Rod Woodson Carnell Lake was a part of that group even talk about the early two thousands with James Harrison Lamar Woodley James Farrior in Larry Foot in the Middle Troy Paulo Malo Ryan Clark. The one thing that this defense has it I, mean from. Defensive Line all the way back to safety is athleticism. They are freakishly athletic and they don't have I. Guess if someone were to ask me what is a modern day defense in the today to twenty twenty NFL? What should it look like I? Think it would be close to what Pittsburgh deploys there. So athletic with guys like what wants not your atypical pass rusher he doesn't have that build. He's just ridiculously technical with his game. Do Pres a freak athlete opposite him. Not Sleep on Cam Hayward and Steph onto it in the middle I doubt Bush is an up and coming star I believe at inside linebacker in his second year everyone knows about Minkah. Fitzpatrick in what he brings to the steelers defense and then you have to lockdown quarters in Hayden and Nelson they are. Sideline to sideline speed. They are extremely versatile and they do several things very well. But the best is getting after the quarterback and cod wreaking havoc. Last year they lead the NFL and takeaways they were think second or third and sacks this team. Might, struggle against the run, which is an interesting facet going into week one. But other than that they don't have any weeks I'll tell you that. So I guess maybe we should just cry mercy right now and. Yet about Monday night so way Let. Let me do this obviously you and I did a we traded five questions this week, which is something we always do. and. I did not ask you to make a prediction. And I'M NOT GONNA ask you to do that here either because let's face it. You know you're going to pick the steelers to win I'm probably going to pick the giants to win although you know sh I did not do that night when I made my picks this week using the the tally site APP that has nation sites are now using to to make predictions I actually picked the steelers to win. So might might giants fans out there you know just sorry guys. Sorry guys I. I'M NOT GONNA I'm not going to give you a snow job I'm going to give you what I really think but. What I want to ask you is set up this game a little bit if you can..

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"ed valentine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

05:34 min | 2 weeks ago

"ed valentine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"As you said, people don't recognize what what the giants have become. So I guess. I guess to ask a question instead of make a speech here you quit when you look at when you look at my Tomlin. Think he's been there since two thousand and seven and it looks like he's going to be there at this point until he decides he doesn't want to be. Has has there ever come a point? Where you thought the steelers might or might have to move on from Tom One. That's a really difficult question because if you were to poll the steelers fan base, you would probably be split fifty fifty. There's a lot of fans I'm one of them. I like Mike. Tomlin I think he's a motivator and I think that in professional sports in general across the landscape I feel like motivators are not as common as they once were and you think about great coaches whether it's Lombardi or if you WanNa, go into other sports with Phil Jackson with the Bulls if they knew how to motivate even the best. Players in Mike Tomlin is cut from that cloth and I have always appreciated that does he have his words absolutely then again, show me coach that doesn't I would be stunned us tell me there's anyone even bill belichick has issues. He's not the best drafter. You know I mean he gets the most out of his team. But at the same time, he does have his own issues I. Think Mike Tomlin is reaching the point though in his career where he's been doing it a long time, you're right since two, thousand seven. But the Rudy's are their patient to appoint that they need to see results against miss the playoffs the last two seasons. He's never had a losing record, which is amazing. He's at eight eight. That's the worst. It's ever done since two, thousand, seven and. I think that this is the year especially with the expanded playoffs day-to-day. If he misses the playoffs, he could be in trouble I'm not saying he's going to get fired, but he's definitely going to be put on notice and also I look at him as a family man and his son is now playing his older son is playing football for the University of Maryland and I could see them be. I could see it very quickly maybe in the next three or four years, Tomlin. Saying accounts done and they'll coward the same thing next year he'll equalled bill cowers time in Pittsburgh as a head coach I could see him being I wanna go and see my sons play football. He probably be have multiple offers from multiple television stations him to get on the air because he's such a good speaker. I don't know like I said I like Tomlin but there's a lot of people that don't, and so there's a lot of people that would say they want common gone for a multitude of reasons. So there's two sides of the coin. I suppose that it's like anything else familiarity breeds contempt a little bit people see the warts and refused to let go of the might just know that if Tom were step aside at whatever point in the next couple of years. We would have a sort of bill cower situation where for the next ten or twelve years his name POPs up with everyone coaching opening that comes along. Absolutely I guarantee I always tell people. If you get rid of a coach, would someone covid that coach of the steelers were to fire Air Mike? Tomlin would might be coveted amongst probably twenty eight to twenty nine NFL organizations in the NFL. Yes, me that's a resounding. Yes, and so you have to ask yourself why would we want to get rid of that if it's still viewed as a as a commodity amongst the rest of the League's in terms of the organizational help that he would provide so when you will get it that way I don't I think the steelers would be foolish to let him go if he chooses to walk away different story. Right. So let's a Jeff. Let's let's turn the topic away from from the head coach Let's talk about about the quarterback a little bit, and it's interesting because when I talk about the steelers when I write about the steelers over the years, it's always been compare Ben. Rothlisberger. Eli Manning. Obviously. We can't do that anymore because Eli has chose to retire in which I supported. I'm glad that I'm glad to see Eli having played only as New York giant. I find it weird that that Philip rivers is now a member of of the of the colts I find it weird Tom Brady. IS PLAYING IN TAMPA Bay I'm glad that he lied chose to end his career as a New York giant. But what I really want to focus on rothlisburger missed last year had what I believe was Tommy John Surgery to reconstruct his elbow played only two games last year excuse me what are the expectations for him does? Does it sound like he's completely healthy? Does it sound like? Like there's any worry about that elbow and about how much he'll be able to throw and and whether he'll be able to to make any of the any of the longer throws any of the the deep throws that really require you know having some zip on the ball. I think there's always anytime you have a throw or whether it's a pitcher or quarterback anytime you have a thrower undergo emmy type of surgery to they're throwing arm upon their return. There's going to be hesitation there's going to be concerned and there's GonNa be a heightened sense of what's going to happen now so far throughout training camp at Heinz field was dead Avenue Heinz field this year..

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"ed valentine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

06:21 min | 2 weeks ago

"ed valentine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"As we look ahead to Monday nights, giants, steelers, season opener. Jeff thank you very much for coming on how you doing today doing great editor. I'm really excited for football just any football it's going to be a long wait until Monday night but I'm just excited for football. Thanks for having me. I hear you and thanks for coming on. It's as we record this. It's it's Thursday we got seems like. Long, wait for for giants steelers. As much as I appreciate the national spotlight I always hate waiting and waiting and waiting all weekend and waiting all day Monday you know for for basically what winds up being this week it'll be part of a doubleheader, but it winds up being the last game of the week I hate waiting that long. I'm the same way I kind of feel especially in week one, you feel like if you were a kid at Christmas time and you have to sit there and watch everyone else open your presence and you're not GonNa get open yours until the day after that's exactly what it feels like you're you're watching all these football games on Sunday and you're thinking man, I just WanNa Watch my team play. You GotTa wait now thankfully I know you're like me you have to cover the team I'm thankful for seven. Or Seven fifteen whatever it is because those those become some late nights when it's an eight twenty, I hate those gains Oh, you and me both within and I am fortunate enough this year that. That I'll be able to cover the game on Monday night I'll be able to be in the In the press box covering the game and. And like you said, thank God. It's a thank God. It's fairly early 'cause I don't WanNa, make the drive home. It I really don't but. So. Thank goodness. Thank goodness. It's an early start but so let's let's talk a little bit about giants, steelers and And I have to start with with this I. Look at the giants and the giants with Joe Judge are at the beginning. Now they're one of the one of the original NFL franchises there a historic NFL franchise just like the steelers are but they've had three coaches in five years. They haven't been good for a while. I look at the steelers. With I think Mike Tomlin's been there since two thousand and seven. Yummy. Does this sort of feel like like Like, maybe the to me, it seems like an interesting opening simply because of where the two franchises are I look at the steelers as a team that that maybe with all that stability and. I think it's only one super bowl title in Tomlin's time. But I look at them almost as the target or the model for for what Joe Judge would like to build. A New York so I mean does this seem like just just an interesting juxtaposition of teams to start the season for you? It is because just when you said that the giants have had three coaches in the last five years. That's correct. That is what you said, right? Right. The steelers have had three head coaches nineteen, sixty nine, and so it's I guess when you think about you know the consistency there and all the I've always viewed the giants put it this way. I've always used the giants as extremely similar or parallel to the steelers when it comes to the way that they want to build their team that's through the draft, they typically are not the team that's going. To be free agent frenzy crazy and they're going to be a team that's going to want the consistency at their family owned with the Mars and the Rooney's we all know those stories actually linked together in more than one ways. But ultimately, it seems like now I don't understand what changed with the giants. The MO can continues to be their MO and they've continued to do business the way they always have. I don't recognize this giants team anymore, and that's from a front office standpoint all the way down to the players. I did a podcast this morning previewing the game tomorrow I, literally on air without anything in front of me tried to list just ten players on the roster couldn't do it. It just seems like a long time since the Justin Tuck Michael Strahan Eli Manning, Tiki Barber, all those all those teams that were so known. It just seems like they're very far away from where they once were and I don't mean trying to championship standpoint from an ornate organizational standpoint and I speak as an outsider that really has no interest or care in the world about the organization. You're killing me though with the stroll down. Memory Lane. But I I think that you're absolutely right and I think that. That in Pittsburgh, the steelers have obviously been fortunate. You talked about with the three head coaches, Chuck Knoll Bill Cower and now Mike Tomlin I. do think you're absolutely right that the giants want to be that they've always pictured themselves. As stable conservative type of franchise Tom. Coughlin was there for for for a decade or so as head coach and had a lot of success and I honestly think that really what happened with the giants? was in. My view in Jerry Reese did a nice job early in his tenure as general manager when he took over from Ernie Coursey and it sort of fell off the rails for for Jerry, for whatever reason he he had a string of poor draft choices before losing his job to Dave gettleman. And then what happened to the way I, look at it as the giants made mistakes in coaching hires they they made a mistake and Ben mcadoo which they quickly recognized and they made another mistake with Pat. Shurmur, which again, they they pretty quickly recognized and you don't hopefully hopefully third time is the charm because you're absolutely right. John Maher has said a few times. We've lost some respect around. Around football with lost some respect because we're not what we used to be..

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"ed valentine" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

09:52 min | 7 months ago

"ed valentine" Discussed on Big Blue View

"A giants fans. Ed Valentine back here on the Valentine's views podcast and we're talking with big blue view contributor nick FA- Lotto about the upcoming NFL scouting. Combine Nick. We talked a lot about About the offensive players That could be available to the giants at number four. Obviously let's take chase young out of the equation because everybody considers him to be the you know the number basically the best player in the draft and and if he somehow sitting there at number four you know that's a no brainer. I mean I I I would actually like to see how fast Dave gettleman could get out of his chair and get over the table and and get that card up to To to select chase young. If if that were to happen I would. I would love to get video of that to be honest with you. But look at the other defensive guys. We're talking Isaiah. Simmons were talking. Jeffrey Okuda were talking even Derrick Brown. You know the big defensive tackle from Auburn is it. Is it in your mind. Is there a clear favourite out of those guys? If the giants were to go defense at four a clear favorite. You know that you would like to see them. Grab if they were to go. Four Mike Clear favourite would be Isaiah Simmons just because he is such a chess piece that I feel Patrick. Graham would do an excellent job employing and I feel like defensive coordinator. It would be hard to not employ him the right way because he can do so many different things he play in the box he could row. Rove around the line of scrimmage which is something that Patrick Graham did a lot on third down would have one or two down linemen and then just have about four edge to linebacker players roaming keeping the offense of lyman on their toes and blitzing slanting doing things like that upon the snap and I realize as Simmons would accelerate auto dropped back play. Safety can play nickel in the slot. You could do that. He's shown that he's really good and coverage against tight end so I feel like he would be a headache for any offense coordinator facing the New York giants and I would love to have a player like that at the second level of the giants defense. Something that China's just have not had so long at second level impact player since can also blitz off the edge and do so many different creative things so it would be Isaiah Simmons for me. I do look at Jeffrey Okuda. Though to and I I'm a fan of de'andre Veliky finished the year much better than the start and I feel like James Becher system is incredibly difficult to kind of comprehend with the pattern match schemes and things like that a lot of Bologne coverages but even though I became a fan of Baker. I still feel the giants need to bring in another number one so the war to be Jeffrey Okuda. Somebody who can play man coverage physical. At the line of scrimmage things that you're looking for can tackle do all those things not afraid of contact. I wouldn't mind that either. I would like for the giants trade back again. Kind of what? I'm hoping happens unless she's young does fall because I do feel like the giants just need more picks to help this. Rosser as I already said. Dave gettleman isn't really used to trading back but those would be the to kind of jump in my mind. The giants did trade back. Let's play the scenario on a little bit. The giants did trade back. You have guys like Klay. Beyond chasing them. I always like kind of mess up his name a little bit but he is from Lsu and he finished the year incredibly strong. I WANNA get four sacks and six games but there wasn't a lot of production at Lsu when he dealt with a lot of injuries but he's one of those edge type players that are incredibly flexible. Something you'll probably see the run the hoop drill which the new drove for the demands of lion coming at the combine. They're going to be basically running in like a theory around hoops. Really just a showcase hip and knee flexibility. Like he's going to go to the combine and had been credibly. Could combine down there in Indianapolis and then you have players like Aj up an ESA who was stronger. More power based edge player. Much of the giants would go that directions. They do sign Leonard Williams. But he's somebody who you can't really go wrong with. He's not overly. I mean he's athletic. Don't get me wrong. But he's not the chase young or the cheesy on kind of athlete but he's just incredibly powerful very technically sound getting coming from Iowa. Well coached there. Were Kirk parents. So I look if you're going in the second round maybe later Joshua J. Atom Michigan. He went down to the head. Incredibly solid outing out there in mobile very very flexible explosive kind of player. People are saying that he might be tween her. How are we GONNA use them? 'cause he's only like two hundred and forty pounds but I felt like Jane money down there in mobile and he can go to combine and do the same thing. If you kinda shows that he has a ten yard split in the explosive numbers see what is three cone is that Bradley is another edge that you can get later. Shore arms but a lot of production at Utah and he also went down to mobile. Have pretty solid outing. So I'm looking at the edge position. 'cause the giants really need to lock that down? You got to look at the linebacker position and the state and it's really all levels air but just to go back to the beginning of the question as as would be there you go. That's a that's a long winded answer boat but we got it and we got a lot of scouting reports on a few other guys. I did want to ask you. We get to the onfield workouts on Thursday. Now I'm actually going to be an Indie I'll get. I'll get there Monday night. So I'm going to be there Tuesday Wednesday Thursday and my thing while I'm there is going to be trying to get as many interviews trying to get as much audio. You know trying to get around and and meet as many of these players as I can and try to bring some flavor you know to big blue readers and listeners of our podcast of what these guys are all about but for in for most fans for most folks. The combine starts on Thursday when we see the onfield workouts. Just give me you. You've mentioned a few guys already. But give me a few guys who who might be. You know mid round late round guys guys who. You're really looking forward to watching at the combine to see what they do. You know especially guys you think might be might be on the giants radar. I think Akeem Dave is gaither. He's a linebacker from Appalachian State. I feel like he's somebody who's incredibly athletic moves very well in space does solid job in zone coverage from the little bit. I saw him coming at Appalachian State but he was at the senior bowl and linebacker drills that I did witness down there he performed at a high level. I think he's somebody really really good athlete a longer player. I believe he's only about six one or six two but he has longer arms. He's somebody I feel like that could be on the giants rapport that second level defender and then I look at some of the defensive backs both safeties from Utah as Julian. Black men and Tyrrell Burgess Blackman's a little bit more of that cupboard one high guy that you look for. And then Burgess. She had a couple nice interceptions on this year. He's a little more physical. I feel both of those guys are people that I'm looking at Jeremy Chin from southern Illinois. Now he's rocked up dude. I know he's coming from Southern Illinois. Fcs school it's not exactly big. But he went down to mobile and he played his bottom off to be honest he played incredibly well. Opened is because people have a lot of questions about him can he compete with Division One athlete? Come from the SEC. In the big ten in you know what he did. I'm hoping for the giants that he could be. Maybe in the fourth round or something like that but that may be seen in my sneak into the third round. I believe when I'm looking at some of the offensive players. It really comes down to those offense of Lyman. I want to see them in the new mirror drills that are coming because again the combine. It's changing obviously now the the drills at night and they're adding new drills every well they added a bunch of new drills this year and a new mirror drill new screen. Jill's to kind of see how these players operating space for evaluating that top pick. WanNa see how you know becton words who I believe will really do well on that drill wills how they operate in. Space Thomas as well and I think Jeff. Thomas is the receiver from Miami. Who might be an underrated guy to watch to kind of set the forty on this? Obviously the favorite right now is Henry. Rugs you got jaylen Reagan from TCU. Jeff Thomas from Miami. He's an incredibly fast player. He's somebody to watch as well when it comes to just the speed and when I'm looking at some of the receivers going to be a lot of big bodies here a lot of people like to look receivers. I'M GONNA Tonio Gandhi golden from liberty. He was down at the senior bowl he played well. What's his forty time going to be if he could run those four fives? That's going to be really solid for him. Denzel if he can run in that those low four fives Van Jefferson. It'd be running the force that would do well for them again very very very deep wide receiver class. I'm a big fan of Brandon I you from Arizona State. He was down in mobile but he had a core issue so we couldn't play. He should be training at combine. Now WanNa see what he runs as well because a lot of these bigger body. I mean Jason Garrett like those X. Receivers people bringing that up lot you gotTa Chase Klay. Pool is going to be down there from Notre Dame. He's another really big body about a biscuit away from being a tight end I think if he wants more in the four five that would do him well to all right so what I did want to ask you. You mentioned the fact that you were down in mobile at the senior bowl now. The senior bowl practice week and what we see at the combine are vastly different at the combine. We see guys in you know in shorts and t shirts we see guys running drills we see guys being tested purely on various forms of athleticism at senior bowl. We see a whole lot more one on one blocking drills one on one receiver versus cornerback kinds of drills with for you as an evaluator for you..

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"ed valentine" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

10:16 min | 1 year ago

"ed valentine" Discussed on Big Blue View

"I'm your host Ed Valentine and we can we can dispense with with all of that today's to show a quick hit on the breaking news that ally manning is no longer the giants starting quarterback job now belongs to Daniel Jones Pat Shurmur and the giants made that announcement on Tuesday morning. We all knew that was coming still. It's it's a stunning thing to think that that you know manning's been the quarterback since two thousand and four and really for the first time since then we have a new quarterback in place for the New York giants that the giants have have embraced moving to the future will go to Daniel Jones and we'll see where things go from there to help me help me kind of make sense of this and and break down everything that's going on. Let me bring in Patricia trainor Patty. How are you wow ed. I was hoping for a quiet Tuesday and a busy Wednesday but it looks like we're getting started early. Oh we're getting both both patty. Were getting both say we all knew today was coming at some point and and I think we all knew when Pat Shurmur floated the idea India on Monday that that he wasn't committing to Eli. I think we all knew this was coming and yet it's still what kind of a jarring realization that the Eli Manning era as quarterback is over it really is and now there's no turning back you know this this is Daniel. Jones is shipped. Iran and you know we'll see what happens. I mean the more for sample size. He creates the more you know. We'll we'll be able to determine how successful he'll be but certainly his performance in the preseason his performance and limited time in the week one game all very encouraging signs and like you said it's now his show to run you have any thoughts on the on the more or less quick hook here for Eli Manning on the on the quick decision to go to Jones after only two games. I'm a little surprised I thought ally would get at least four games before. They pulled the hook on him. I thought he would potentially stay in there as long as they had a chance to to be competitive have a chance to be in the playoff hunt and I know people are GonNa snicker when I say that but the reality is is the giants haven't been eliminated and if you you know teams have started out Owen to and I know it's a small sample size but they have turned it around finish strong the giants however they are not just the player or two away they have problems on both sides of the ball defense which they think they're going to be fine. They think that you know with with more reps together that defense is going to gel but really on offense it was time you know as much as we appreciate. Eli As much as we might love him as a quarterback as as a person as a professional he was not in the long term plans of this team and it just didn't make sense if you were GonNa go and revamped the defense and and you know look towards the future there. Why were you holding onto you know the last of the the two thousand and four draft class there on your team and and just not looking ahead at that point? I know that Dave gettleman has has often said you know you can win while you're build or rebuild and I David hates the word rebuild but for me one of the things that I wrote about Tuesday morning at big blue view was that for years it seems seems like the giants have taken half-measures have taken a step here in a step there and not fully embraced. Maybe what what they needed to do to push the organization forward and this finally to me feels like embracing embracing. Okay we understand what we are. We understand that that the future is more important than the present and we just. We have to do everything we can to be ready for that future. Just your thoughts on on that sort of train taught patty. I agree with you at I mean look. Everybody knows who's followed me. Who's read me that I I've defended. Eli and I believe Steve and I will continue to believe that the organization didn't always do him right with personnel decisions with with coaching decisions and what have have you but with that said you know we saw limitations from Eli we saw signs of him starting to decline fine and slow down and it was just you know the guy can't play forever and as much as maybe you'd like to see him play forever. He's just not the same quarterback he was was when he was put Unquote Bitch Eli back in two thousand eleven so it just you know sometimes. You need to shake things up now. Now some and people will say and I know you've said this that the giants should've done this years ago when they swept out you know Tom Coughlin at that time they should have probably made a clean sweep and just started from scratch. I think they you know maybe realized that it was too late to do that or for whatever reasons maybe they didn't feel. They had the the best options available at that time but they finally now have a new. GM They have a new relatively new head coach a new quarterback the giants nights are going to move forward now and they're going to. They're going to take some months this year because you know Jones is GonNa go through. Some growing pains like every rookie does but these are growing pains instead of going to serve this franchise well into the coming years as much as we hate this for Eli Manning. I think you and I have both said that you know over over a period of time. When you stop and you think about it in some ways I mean this is actually an exciting decision decision and in in some ways you know whether the giants win games or lose games or whatever their ultimate record turns out to be this season. I think it adds some excitement to the rest of the season because now we kind of have some growth in some development to look forward to yeah. I think so and you know what's going to be interesting for me. At is the giants as far as I know at least as we record this is going to be the number two quarterback and I'm going to be very interested to see what happens. How giants handle this moving forward because it's kind of like you know ally at this point is a larger than life personality even though he's always been reserved and bland and whatnot but his mere your presence there. I'm just curious to see how they handle it so that Jones doesn't necessarily feel overshadowed by the presence of Manning. I'm sure they have a plan for this but sometimes when you have a a larger than life or a legend behind you just kind of like peering down it can be somewhat intimidating dating and I just think that maybe subconsciously we won't really see the best of the annual Jones until after ally has gone off into the sunset onset patty. That's an interesting point. One of the things that that I've already been asked this morning is in regards to how Eli would react act to this. I expect nothing class from Eli Manning. I expect him to handle this with grace. I expect to see him do what he he can to help Daniel Jones. I don't expect to see him. Make any waves at all. I mean he's he's been a class act for sixteen years now and and I don't expect to see any of that. Change your thoughts on that. Yeah I agree with you. Ally Manning has been a model citizen in the locker room room just model individual. He's never had a bad thing to say about anybody. He's taken I think way more of the the blame that he should because football is a team sport and I think he's got a lot more blame for the giants misfortunes over the years but this is is a guy who has been class act and you know you ask anybody associated with the team behind the scenes they will tell you that manning has always spin the consummate professional. He has answered questions. You know I know in the past. He said look. It's not my job to be. You know the backups coach whatever but he's never withheld information. He's never been a jerk about. It and I don't think you could ask for anything more than than what has brought to that room and what he's going to continue to to that room. I mean book. He's a competitor. I'm sure he's not happy with the decision. I'm sure he does a like or agree with the decision but he's never been about himself. He's always been about the franchise and I don't expect that to change alright patty. I think that with with that said I think will call it a show for today. I think it's a really you know it's. It's just a crazy time. You and I are both be out at the at the facility acidity on Wednesday. I'm sure it's going to be a crazy day with a with a media mob out there so you know get your get your your catcher's this gear on and and get ready to to to deal with the mob. I'm GonNa get a good night's. Sleep tonight at is going to get to bed early. We have an early start tomorrow and you're right. It's going to be a a media crowd. I I'd be shocked if it's not immediate crowd that equals what we have seen in the past for playoff games. Thanks all right Patty. I'll see you there. Thank you very much and thank you for listening. Giants fans will talk to you soon bye the are you.

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"ed valentine" Discussed on Cincy Jungle

Cincy Jungle

04:31 min | 1 year ago

"ed valentine" Discussed on Cincy Jungle

"Continue to play if and when they fall out of contention or if they get off to a one six start like they did last year one and seven you start then there's no reason for many to play the knee simply have to go to jones and i think that's i think that's how it's gonna go comas. The giants consider themselves go to be a playoff contending team today with you like talking with ed valentine of big blue view and the valentine's view podcast part of the s._p. Nation family of podcasts which <hes> this podcast is part of as well good to have ed with us talking about the quote unquote dress rehearsal coming up here <hes> ed. It's it's really difficult to kind of. Sit here and talk about you know. What are you looking to see out of out of a preseason game. I mean obviously you wanna see the lower end depth chart guys you wanna see who maybe make some place to <hes> make kamenica rosser bid but these teams are kind of in a lot of people's is in a similar boat but potential rebuild coach early if not starting their new tenure with the team <hes> you know a lot of some veterans that are maybe on the hot seat a little bit so mean i guess what what are giants fans hoping you too and the giants themselves what what are they hoping to take away from this game because obviously the wins and losses don't truly matter in the summer but what are they looking to really achieve or take away aside from staying pretty healthy well. I think you always want in whatever limited fashion your starters play. You want to see something. That looks like competent football. Something gives you confidence going forward forward for example in the opening preseason game for the giants. Starting offense in the starting defense basically played one. You're you're on offense. The giants went three and out in on defense. The evil belong driving touchdown last last friday against the bears same scenario where the offense basically plate one series the defense played a little bit longer than that but but you gotta touchdown drive out of the offense and you've got a stop for a field goal you know out of the defense so so you saw you saw some better play. You saw some competent play and i think that's that's all you want. Out of. Your starters is something that looks like incompetent play but for me at this point won't be what tomorrow night will be nine days away from teams having to set their fifty three man dan rosters so it's all about looking for those guys at the end of the roster. You know those guys. Every teams got bobo players. Every tamed got decisions to make every teams looking for help across the league so for me. It's all about those guys who are going to win. Those last year roster spots you know one player on either side of the ball that bengal span should keep out for me. Not just off color has john roster. Who who is that guy in order to be name name no more for tomorrow night well. I don't know if i don't know if it's a guy that's exactly what you're you're talking about here but the guy that i think anyone across the n._f._l. Should probably be aware of at this point. What is cory ballantyne. The sixth round pick out washburn. If you know his story the giants drafted him in the sixth round. You went out that night with sprint twain simmons and they were victims of a drive by shooting in which ballantine was hurt. His friend simmons was was killed and this kid since he came back and since he rejoined the team this kid has done nothing nothing but shown class in the way that he handled himself in the way that he stood in front of the media and explained what happened you know he's tried to move forward and right now the amazing thing about this he he's not a sixth round draft pick he. He doesn't look anything like a six round draft..

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"ed valentine" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

02:53 min | 1 year ago

"ed valentine" Discussed on Big Blue View

"I'm your host Ed Valentine of Big Blue View in today's show we are going to be discussing the continuation of giants training camp as is the giants prepare for the two thousand in nineteen season. We will also have a special guest for you as we will be joined in a little bit by by a good friend of big blue view Dave t thomas who is a long-time n._F._l.. Scout Director of Scouting Services Mrs Inc and has done work at the N._F._l.. Draft Report. You've seen some of his work here at big blue view over the years as Dave has been kind enough to share some scouting reports with us. Some of his draft related information Dave t is always entertaining A. and Informative and I'm sure that you'll enjoy listening to him when we get to the interview that he and I recorded in just a little bit all right I though a a couple of thoughts on Tuesdays giants practice I was not in attendance today in East Rutherford but but sounded like Eli Manning had a nice day sounded like rookie quarterback. Daniel Jones had a little bump in the road today little bit up and down those things though are to be expected expected as the young man develops no big deal nothing to be alarmed about today at Big Blue View. You'll find stories on Eli Manning hang on what he said. When he met the media on Tuesday morning also a nice story on Dexter Lawrence he also met the media dexter of of course is playing defensive end seventeenth overall pick little bit surprising to some that he's being used as an end and not as a nose tackle that particular the topic is addressed in the story and also some information on how he's doing and how he's developing as a pass rusher speaking of pass rush rush? I also had an opportunity to speak with former Arizona cardinals edge rusher marcus golden who is now with the giants on a one one year prove it deal gold and told me that he is healthy looking forward to the two thousand in nineteen season and still believes that he can return to his two thousand and sixteen twelve and a half sack form now that he's another year removed from the surgery he had in two thousand thousand seventeen for the torn A._C._l.. that he suffered also wanted to mention those of you who listen to the podcast that Dan Poodle and Chris Phlegm have been doing here on Biglou view radio those of you who listen to that already know that that Dan is moving on from big blue view..

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"ed valentine" Discussed on Blogging the Boys

Blogging the Boys

04:14 min | 1 year ago

"ed valentine" Discussed on Blogging the Boys

"Your home near content you see a life studying interior team, Ed Valentine managing editor, DV gone. Oh man. R J is as as much as we get along. You always you always liked to throw in a little dig their, you know. But, but I'll, I'll let that go, we do get along. It's, you know, believe it or not Cowboys fans and giants fans you know, we can manage to get along. So there is that, you know, and we do have that, that come, and EMMY in Philly that wears green. Yeah. So just, just as an aside, our J before we get. Into our topic today. It is amazing to me how no matter who I'm talking to from whatever team I'm talking to the conversation. Always manages to turn around or come around to hell lousy eagles fans are. It's one of those things it's like people used to say like everybody is six two days away from Kevin bacon. Like, in terms of life, for, or whatever we're all every conversation in the world is six degrees away from discovering. The eagles fans are the most vile. I say that, by the way, you and I were talking on Tuesday, this is going to drop on Wednesday. I just made an appearance on BGN radio. So I feel kinda bad trashing than well. No, no, no. You're, you're, you're fortunate that you that, that we're doing this now. And you've done your BGN already if you're fortunate because, you know, then then you'd have to you'd have to defend yourself. I just had Lindsay Jones of the athletes, gray the big view podcast, and we're talking about NFL training camps. In the fact that teams so often or so many teams don't involve fans as much as they used to. She lauded. The Cowboys incidentally for, for how fan-friendly their you know, their training camp is, but I had to twist the knife on Lindsey because she actually made the mistake of in, in a recent column predicting that the New York Jets would win a Super Bowl before the giant another Super Bowl and I just I just couldn't let that go. I don't blame you for that. Certainly that's that's too far. You know, there's a line and Lindsey cross. And I said, I said, you just can't do that. Yeah, you're right, though. I'll be at a training camp in pink, like five weeks issue hours. Go for a week in your ride, and Lindsay's. Right. It's so fan-friendly and it does help that you're in California. You know, the practices are at three PM Kelly time, and it feels great. You know, the sun is beating on you, but you really don't notice it just because of the weather. It's, it's an overall spectacular environment. How is giants training camp? For people that don't know giants training camp. I started covering giants training camp in two thousand seven to two thousand eight and giants training camp used to be in Albany, New York, which is twenty minutes away from my house, on a college campus, university of all Binnie. And it was it was great because they had five fields there could sit in the grass, they could bread blankets out on a lot of the fields. The only thing separating fans from the team was like a little three foot high wouldn't, you know, wouldn't pick it fence kind of thing you know, people in and players had to walk through what they used to call autograph alley, where to get in and out of practice everyday they had to walk through the fans. That's it. And that was really cool. You know, they used to stay in Albany, they'd be out in the community every night. So. So now training camp is at their facility in East Rutherford. And I get it because they have three and a half practice fields there. They have an indoor bubble. They have everything they need in terms of equipment, but but fans sit in, you know, makeshift bleachers in a parking lot. Sure, you.

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"ed valentine" Discussed on WEEI

WEEI

10:47 min | 1 year ago

"ed valentine" Discussed on WEEI

"One of the more interesting teams entering the NFL draft is the giants. Let's chat some giants football with Ed Valentine from big blue view in fall at big blue view on Twitter at big blue view. Ed. Thank you so much things time this one, and we really appreciate it. Thank you for having you anytime. So before we get into the draft stuff. Ed, this is one of the more fascinating teams in the NFL right now. What do you make of this back and forth between Dave Gettleman who said, they don't have a culture preventing more there in New York and Oto Beckham junior come into the defense on Twitter saying, I'm not a cancer to team in less. We're bad ask my teammates. What'd you make of that back and forth? Well, I I've been waiting for that shoot a drop to tell you the truth because Beckham wasn't gonna be silent forever. I mean, I look at hotel. And and and he's gonna like the Chiltern low right now, you know, he didn't want to go. And of course, he's going to take some shots at cattleman. And I don't know that all the things get said were directed at oakdale. I think he was included in some of that. But but yeah, I not surprised to Bill taking some shots at at at Gettleman. I just kind of wondered how long would take him to get around to that the question I would have about going back to the Odell Beckham junior trade is based on something that Dave got them and said recently where he said he still thinks that he lied manning is a lot left in the tank. So I would ask you if he actually believes which I quite frankly, don't believe, but if he believes that he has a lot left in the tank, why would he trade away one of the top three receivers in the NFL? If he still believes allies the guy. I think that the way he would explain it. I think that you know, what what the giants fell. I think. I think they were very very unhappy with Odell after eighteen him all that money. Last your you know, that that he went ESPN and sit some of the things about meeting day. Instead, some of the things about New York City. They said. Don't go throw your quarterback under the bus, and basically say you don't like to city when team just handed to ninety five million dollars. And you know, what for you know, what franchise playing for and what quarterback you're playing for in. And I think that that the giants just note like what like they just didn't want to deal with with Dell anymore and in other way, gentleman put it was they turned they turned one really good asset into what they hope will be three good assets. And I think that's that's where they are. They're still building, you know. And that wasn't gonna win a championship. I think is the way they felt about it. So let's turn it into multiple assets. And see if we can do better. Chan with Ed Valentine from big blue view. All right. So now, everybody's going back and forth. And what the giants are going to do with this six picks. We've heard they don't like Dwayne Haskins. Now, they do like twain Haskins. You don't really know what's going on there. And what do you think they're going to do with that six pick? Oh, good question. The crazy thing is I I think there's one of two things that could happen here. I think there are couple of defense of players that Dave Gettleman would really really love to see all the number six. I think if someone like the one that I keep coming back to its Quinton Williams defensive tackle from Alabama gave Clinton Williams somehow manages to fall to number six. And who knows if the jets the jets trade out at number three? In oakland. Does something crazy at number four, you know, that Jon Gruden and Mike Mayock would never do anything insane. So if something crazy happens in Queen Williams, the number six, I think that Dave Gettleman will will take quitting Williams. No matter who else is there is if you know one of those guys quitting Williams. Josh Allen isn't sitting narrate numbers fix. I Jones as much as the draft Twitter thinks insane. I he might just take Jones. And and and you know, take quarterback and move on. Okay. So if that does happen and Daniel Jones most people have them rank either as third of the fourth prospect in this draft in terms of the quarterback position. So Ed if that does happen and last year, of course, we know and giants fans, of course, no that they decided to pass on Sam darnold to take the running back and saquon Barkley, and they passed on the other quarterbacks in that draft, you they could've had and Rosen or Alan how do you think it'll be perceived there in New York if they end up with six pick with Daniel Jones considering all the other chances they've had at quarterbacks over the past few years. I basically think that there will be a lot of free moats thrown it a lot of television. I I don't know. I don't know in the end if if they do that. All right. I think people will stomach it better. If they take him, let's say, they don't take him and six, and and maybe they trade up and take him at eleven or twelve or he falls to seventeen and they take Jones. I think people might stomach that a little bit better. Even if he's not there their Cup of tea as as their quarterback of choice in this strapped. But if he if he take Jones at six, I think there's going to be just a section of giants fans just going to be absolutely up in arms that Valentine from big blue. That's part of nation. Fo- big blue view on Twitter at big blue view. Okay. So what is it that the giants like more about Daniel Jones than say Dwayne Haskins because the perception from everybody else's that Haskins is the better player. I understand there is the relationship with David cut cliff who coach ally and whatnot. But what is it? The giants organizationally like more about Jones than Haskins. Well, again, we're we're sort of you know, we're sort of reading pain leaves here and piecing things together. And I think, you know, some of the cut cliff connection some of the fact that that already has a relationship with ally manning, and he's worked with ally at the passing cat Amies. And and things like that. Some of that plays into it. I, you know, it's interesting because I think that that NFL like general managers and scouts and people inside the NFL light gang Jones, a whole lot more than people outside the NFL to. And then you're you're drafting that you read on on media websites and all of that. It's interesting. It's gonna be interesting to see who who gets proven right in the long run. I think part of it to be honest. Dave cattleman is he don't give them a traditionalist. She's an older general manager, I think Daniel Jones because of his similarities to ally manning and a lot of ways. A little bit more mobile. Obviously moves a little better. He's he's obviously younger I think Daniel Jones just make the gentleman comfortable. I think the fact that he's got, you know, more experienced than a dialect cash in. I I I honestly think that it comes down to comfort level. And when you look at it at where the other places the giants are going to go after that six pick and seventeen we know quarterback and edge rusher. Two things they're looking for. But where are the other areas they need to upgrade throat this draft? If you look at it. They have to up create defensively and everybody focuses on edge rusher. But you can look all through that defense. You can look at cornerback. You can look at interior defensive line Depp. If they can find. Cover you know, that would be good if they can find a free safety to learn from Antoine buffet. That would be good. They obviously could use enough into tackle they could use a wide receiver. So there's a lot of ways that they can go, but I think that their primary focus other than other than quarterback if they choose to go that way, the primary focus has got to be in collecting some defensive talent regardless of position. Hey, Ed before we let you go. I'm interested because we saw that they signed golden Tate to that thirty seven and a half million dollar deal. They brought back sterling Shepard they made the trade in the off season for getting rid of Livia Vernon bringing in Zeitler to help out lie in that offensive line. And they say all this stuff about he li- how they still think there's a lot left in the tank to the giants believe that they're close to getting back in the postseason organizationally is our they add today think they're just. A few steps away from gang like a legitimate contender in the division. Again. I I think that they understand that. They're roster isn't what you would call a championship caliber roster at this point. I think they know what sort of hole they have. I think they're in that position where they would like to sort of Neak into tournament, you know, win nine games, maybe ten games and and sneak into the playoffs. They don't want. They don't want to be one of these. They don't wanna go three and thirteen or five and eleven every year. They don't wanna blow everything up, and and take this as in, you know, and so people were going to be terrible that, but I think they understand that they have a ways to go to get back to that that top level him. But they'd like to take like to think that if that if things go right for them. They can win nineteen and sneak into the playoffs. I think is where they really are. Are. All right. Ed. Thank you so much for the time today and have fun on Thursday night. Because I can't imagine having a better team to cover on draft night than the New York Giants with six and the seventeenth pick. And all that could happen with Dave Gettleman motive acts. It's awesome. Unpredictable in the NFL thing. No doubt about it. That's F Valentine from big blue view, it's part of being nation. Make sure to follow big blue view on Twitter at big blue.

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"ed valentine" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

03:31 min | 1 year ago

"ed valentine" Discussed on Big Blue View

"Uh-huh. Welcome to a special edition of the big big Boyd Bod cast. Dan, is you to join tear by Chris Chris how you doing? Pretty good. All right. Good to hear. So what we are doing today is we are going to react and break down the giants pick in the Espy nation NFL writers mock draft. So this is now the thirteenth year that as a nation has done this. They have all of the head writers for their team blogs and make picks for a mock draft. And we're going to talk about who was picked by Ed Valentine made the pick for the New York Giants. So that's just our topic here today. So before we get into who the giants picked we're going to just give you an update on who was picked you'll be able to read these on Espy nation dot com. All of these picks will be up by the time. It's gets posted. So we'll go from pick number one that a lot of surprises here. Arizona selected Tyler Murray. I overall San Francisco took edge Nick Bosa from Ohio State. Number two, the jets at number three to Josh Allen edge from Kentucky Oakland, number four to Quin Williams interior defensive line from Alabama. The big surprise. I guess here is Tampa Bay at five took Ed all of her interior defensive line from Houston. So that left the giants with options all be quarterback a couple other options at edge rusher. But Ed went with Devon white the linebacker from LSU, a Chris what are your initial thoughts about this pick? Honestly, I if that came to pass I would be surprised will get into why based on who else is on the board. But also, I'm not sure if I would be happy or upset with this pick white is different way is almost. Two two different prospects at the same time for me. It's an interesting take. I think is the best way to put it. I think just from a positional values standpoint. And of course, we know the general manager of the New York Giants does not really care about that. So I believe it. He officially classified it as a crock several cross we've found out. Yep. So when you looking at that taking a running back second overall last year and then Liden backer. An awful again off ball linebacker six overall this year, not the greatest look. But there's something about Devon white. I think he's the clear consensus number one off ball linebacker. He is super athletic graded, second in spark the ninety third percentile. And again that is a composite athleticism metric so ninety third percentile among all NFL off ball. Packers. So he has that going for them. It has been very good against the run..

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"ed valentine" Discussed on WEEI

WEEI

11:22 min | 1 year ago

"ed valentine" Discussed on WEEI

"Been in for Alex gold here on the gold standard and L Beckham junior is certainly the biggest story in sports right now. The giants, of course, delta away to the Cleveland Browns yesterday that deal became official at four PM eastern earlier today and the aftermath in the ramifications of that deal remained large for the New York Giants. Now joining us here on our SP nation radio. Guests hotline, the talk all things big blue is nations own big blue view, founder and writer at Ballantyne. Ed, we appreciate your time today. Matt how are you? I'm good. Thanks for having me. Absolutely. So I'll ask you this to start things off. I mean now you've had a day to kind of look at the details over the trade and kind of process. How it unfolded? What are your thoughts on the giants decision here to get rid of OBGYN? Well, I'm still like a lot of other people. I'm still, you know, pretty stunned that were here at this point weird so much so much chatter lately that things might happen. But even you know up until you know, a little bit more than twenty four hours ago. What we were what we were hearing was people might be calling. But the giants aren't really putting Beckham on the market. And the next thing, you know, he's he's a Cleveland Brown. So it's it's a stunning development. It finally for the giants isn't a mission that they're that. They're in a rebuild that they have to start over. That, you know, from their perspective, the relationship with Odell just wasn't going to work, you know. And and you know, and now we see if if Dave Gettleman can put this back together. I mean at how did we get to this place where a year ago, Dave Gettleman and the giants they gave OB J the biggest contract ever given out to a wide receiver. And here we are a year later, and you know, without any notice a just like that obe- Jay is now no longer on this team. The giants are moving on. I mean, how did we get to this point? And and kind of what is the sense of direction now for this giants team? Well, you know there there's two different questions there. How did we get here? You know, the the sense that I had even when the giants gave Beckham, you know, the the mega contract that they gave him the sense that that I that I had was that they gave him that money. But they weren't a hundred percent certain that that was a great idea. They had a new coach and new GM. And they didn't really want to blow things up right from the beginning. I think they just kinda help their breast, you know, that things would work out, and, you know, from their perspective, they haven't, you know, Odell you took the money from the giants. Then he then he went on ESPN, and he basically threw manning under the bus, and you know, he kind of hinted that well, you know, I got all this money. But but maybe I don't really like New York all that much. You know? And and so I think you right away. There was this whole, you know, why did we sign this guy? You know, we we did he sell us a Bill of goods just to get the money, you know. And then I what I heard today was there was some there was some disagreement over how badly hurt he was at the end of the season when he missed a few games with a quad injury. So I just think there wasn't really a there was a lack of trust to there between the two sides. I think Ed Valentine with us here on ESPN radio Espy nations. Big blue view is your nonstop resource for all things New York Giants football. And you mentioned obviously that there could have been some sort of issue between the giants and Beckham you alluded. You of course, the ESPN interview where he threw Eli under the bus. I mean, you know, my biggest thing with the giants is they knew what OB Jay was. They knew the type of player that he was. And they knew what they were signing up for. To me just to change directions a year after you took a running back with the second pick. And here they are you know, a year later trading away their best player on offense. I it just to me what the direction or the misdirection. The giants have been going in the last year or so just doesn't seem like there's there's a clear plan in place. Well, it's a bad. Look, there's no doubt about that. If they were going to do this. If they were going to move on from Beckham, you know, the the clean time the right time to do. It was probably before they gave him that make it contract. I mean, if nothing else I mean that avoid that would have avoided all the money that they spent in the big dead money hit they're going to take on their salary cap this year. So it doesn't seem to make sense, you know, in a lot of ways because the timing is just weird. I mean, I had this idea that I didn't really think that Beckham was gonna finish the five year contract with the giants. I thought at some point. You know, the the relationship would would go south, and and they would part ways. But I just didn't think it was going to happen now. So the question is he you talk about gentlemen, not having a plan. And he's heard the talk because he addressed it today in his statement on Odell. He's heard the talk that he doesn't have a plan. He says he does he says accumulating all of these draft picks think the giants have two first round picks. Now, they have twelve fixed this year. They have nine picks in two thousand twenty you know, he said that's all part of the plan. The question right now is okay. They've torn it down. Can he put it back together? If he can put it back together if he can build a winning team, then he comes out of this looking good if they flounder for the next five years and turn into a disaster. You know, then then he's gonna wind up looking like a fool. Do you think they got enough in return for oboe backup junior the first third, and of course, Djibril peppers was the player in that deal as well? You know, it's hard to say I mean because I think there was some consideration that that. Yeah. I heard you know, people talking about oh, it's going to take two first round draft picks. And it's going to take this. I never really thought someone would give up two first round draft picks for Odell Beckham. But but really I thought if they were going to take a first round pick. I thought they'd be looking for one in the top part of the draft in the top ten, you know, maybe something like I think San Francisco is has been number two over all pick in the draft. I thought maybe that would be what they would target. So I was a little bit a little bit taken aback that they took the seventeenth overall pick as their highest pick. But they seem happy with it. They seem to feel like that was the best offer they had. And I think there was your think there was some trepidation that if they let this go that they would eventually wind up with an Antonio Brown situation. Spending a few minutes here over the phone on espionage in radio with Ed Valentine, you can get him on Twitter at Ballantyne underscore, add covers the giants for Espy nations, big blue view, and of course, now with OB J, Al. The question now becomes well. What are the giants do from here specifically, you know, what is the future of Eli manning, you know, playing quarterback for this team? So Ed, I mean, if you could kinda prognosticate how you see this year on folding for you lie in what is he future with big blue? Well, it's interesting because I know there was any SPN report. Earlier today that the giants are planning to stick with ally for two thousand nineteen I know that the giants have talked about this Kansas City model of having you I mentor young quarterback for year and then turning things over. But what I'm really interested in is E Y. Manning has a roster bonus due in a few days on March seventeenth, I'm interested at this point that's five million dollars. And I'm interested to see if the giants actually pay it because that's when we're gonna know if they're actually going to move forward with you I for for the upcoming season, or whether they're gonna make another plan for, you know, for for two thousand nineteen right now, you know, right now if it's not Eli they don't have a quarterback. So so right now, you have to think that that unless a plan b shows up in the next couple of days. That they don't have much choice. Do you think they consider maybe a trade for Josh Rosen? If Arizona does indeed decided to take Callum number one. Well, I'll answer that this way the more. I think about that the more I like that idea especially because the price tag that you here for Josh Rosen is basically a second round pick. If you can use the sixth overall pick in the seventeenth overall pick on whoever you consider to be the best players then turn around and get Josh Rosen for your second round pick. Then you've done something here. You know, you've you've managed to get your quarterback of the future and get two first round picks in that looks like something you the question is I don't know if the giants like Josh Rosen enough to do that. He makes sense on paper. It makes sense to me. It seems like a good direction. I just. I don't know if they like the player enough and Valentine our guest here on ESPN radio. Jake has been filling in for Alex gold tonight on the gold standard and add. We can end with this. You know, if you were able to get Dave Gettleman some truth serum here, and you ask them. Hey, do you regret taking saquon Barkley over Sam darnold our year later, you get on them would admit that taken Barkley as great as he is talented and a specialist. It was mistake not going quarterback and really starting to rebuild around darnold a year ago. I don't think you'll ever get Gettleman to say that he he loves the player. Go back to to last year. He said, you know, Berkeley's one of only two players with Peyton Manning being the other one that that he ever gave a perfect grade to in his scouting report. I don't think Gettleman feels that way you, but it's easy. It's easy to make that conclusion because. Quarterback is still more valuable than running back. No matter how you cut it. No matter how great the running back is. And if the giants don't solve this quarterback situation. They'll never get out of saquon Barkley what they should be able to get and Valentine has been our guest. You could follow him on Twitter at Balentine underscore does a great job covering the New York. Giants raspy nations big blue view, great gained a chance to catch up with you here. I appreciate your time tonight. And obviously it's going to be a very busy and important offseason. Now for the New York Giants, thanks for having me coming up. We wrap up this hour Espy nation radio Jake has been in for Alex gold. This is the gold standard here on a Wednesday night..

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Big Blue View

04:31 min | 1 year ago

"ed valentine" Discussed on Big Blue View

"How all of that went down with Jeremy shockey, and it was one of the big reasons or the big reason why the giants moved on from Schalke because they had a young quarterback they needed to make the young quarterback comfortable, and you know, you I've wondered in the back of my head for a while. You know, it it's been obvious. That the giants are handing the football team. The leadership the face the front man for the organization now in the locker room is sequential Barclay, and I've wondered for a while, you know, how that would play with Odell Beckham it. And now the giants, you know, it's. People won't like this. And and I get that. But that's another thing. Now that the giants don't have to worry about you know, now what they can do whether it takes them awhile or not they're innocent Jewish in where now they're they're building the football team. That Gettleman wants that patch Germer wants will. They succeed will they fail. I don't know. But they're doing it their way they're doing what they think is right. And you know, we just have to see how it all plays out in the end, Patty. It certainly it certainly is different H. Sure is had an it's it's you know, it sent shock waves across the NFL. It said shockwaves, I'm sure are most every beat writer those Cleveland and the giant beat writer and the national writers and just well, you know, for for a team that's relatively quiet in free agency. The giants sure have made splashes in other ways. Poor Kim Jones who I know. I know for poor Kim, I think like five minutes after she went on the NFL network and said that that basically what all of us believed was that the giants weren't actively shopping Beckham. And you know, people might have been sniffing around and all of that. But that the giants weren't really trying to make a trade happen. Five minutes later. Odell Beckham was a Cleveland Brown. So so sorry, Kim, your timing was just pretty bad. You know, what I listen, I'm going to own it. You know, because that's how I am. I kept saying that I didn't think they would do it. I know there were writers. It said that you know, there's smoke. There's fire. They were right. And I was wrong. Look it's going to happen. I'm not going to be wrong. One hundred percent of the time. If i'm. I'm not going to be right. One hundred percent of the time. I should say if I'm right ninety five or better percent than than that's good enough for me. But look it happens to the best of us. Unfortunately, you know, like, you said it happened to Kim. Who's now standing reporter? You know? I know I preached it. I know that we're few other people who who didn't see it happening. And here we are at. I mean, it's it's a whole new era. This is this is not the previous regimes giants. This is this is Dave Gettleman patch club, and they are going to come do what they can to build this team back into a contender. And it's gonna take time, you know, we may have to go through another season where it's going to be a lean year. But hopefully, they get it all together. And they're able to make that transition from the manning era to wherever the new quarterback is very successfully. They'll just have to do it without del auto Patty would just have to get on the train with crazy. Dave and see where it goes. Yeah. We do. Add listen, always great chatting with you. I know there's still a lot of writing to do. There's a lot of discussions to do. I'm sure the radio with quests will come. So always a great chann- to to sit and chat and break the stuff down. We'll talk again soon. I hope. Yes, we will Patty. Thank you much and get get some sleep. We'll see what sort of craziness awaits tomorrow. Thanks a lot or giants fans. That's our show. Please stick with big blue view throughout the day on Wednesday as free agency officially begins as we continue to give you reaction to the Beckham situation to all of the free agency news surrounding the.

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Big Blue View

04:33 min | 1 year ago

"ed valentine" Discussed on Big Blue View

"You know, regardless of whether he's there to open the two thousand nineteen sees. Or not it's as obvious as can be that the giants are pointed toward the future. End at that future is not going to include manning at as the quarterback for a whole lot longer. Yeah. I think that's how it's shaping up. I really do. And by the way, just a little FYI. I -ean Rappaport rap sheet at the NFL network just happened to put out a tweet just a few minutes ago saying that Odell saw Antonio Brown receive added money without adding New Year's upon being traded to the raiders. And that his understanding that being rap sheets is that old L wants the same thing from the Brown. So Dell or reportedly already looking for a raise from the Browns following the trade. No surprise there. Patty. I, you know, of course, he's going to angle to try to get something. You know, let's actually talk about Odell for just a minute. You were the first one months and months ago who raised the idea after Odell Beckham signed his five-year ninety million dollar deal with the giants. You were the first one to raise the the notion that there was basically. Chance he was ever gonna finish that five year deal with the giants in the more. I thought about it in the more. I looked at it in the more. I saw the different sorts of distractions and things that happened. I came to agree with you. But I didn't think it was going to happen now despite all the smoke that had been that had been floating around didn't think it was going to happen. Now. I thought the giants might try as long as they still had ally that they might go one more year try to make it work try to, you know, while they were transitioning, but you know, I guess Gettleman was happy with this price in he wants to to to to start that rebuild. Now. I'm just I think we knew that the end would come for ode L. I just didn't think it was going to come. Now. I didn't think it was going to come now either. But with that said, Ed the giants have. A lot of holes on defense. Stay have a few holes also on offense that they have to fix, you know, they're not gonna fix everything. This this year, they're going to fix a lot of things. But I don't think they'll fix everything. So I guess, you know, I don't know what the tipping point is. We have obviously heard from the giants. They haven't even announced a trade they can announce until four one pm on Wednesday. But you know, ultimately, you know, it's going to be interesting to hear what Gettleman has to say. I'm sure when the press release does come out they'll be a statement from him in there. And I'm curious to see what he has to say about it. Especially after you know, saying we didn't sign him to train them, which by the way, I took to mean that we're not intending to trade, but we could still trade him. If circumstances allowed for it. I took it the same way Patty, and one of the things that I wrote a little bit earlier this evening at big blue view was. Was we've heard you know, we hear a lot of of things from from gentlemen in. There are certain statements are certain things that he tends to lean on one of the things that he one of the the beliefs that he leans into quite a bit is that you don't give up on talent another one of the beliefs that he leans into an he leaned into really heavily when we spoke to him at the combine was this idea that a general manager's job is to eliminate distractions. And if for a while you've wondered, okay, well, those two things, you know, aren't necessarily they don't necessarily work hand in hand. So push comes to show, which one wins. And I think in the end we found out which one wins in his. His mind. Yeah. I mean, look he talks about how everything he does is designed to send a message to that locker room. Right. So, you know, Dell a talented player, and you know, he gave them an also spoke about the whole question..

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Big Blue View

04:13 min | 1 year ago

"ed valentine" Discussed on Big Blue View

"That the giants did this. I think it was two thousand fourteen that didn't work out. They had a shed a bunch of dead weight after that, they did it again in two thousand sixteen that, you know, they got one playoff appearance out of it didn't go very far, but they had to go, and they had a shed deadweight. Again. This is what Gettleman is trying to do. I again in my article, according to over with the cap, they have over thirty three million dollars in dead money. Right. That's. That leads the league right now. And we haven't even started the roster building process. So the giants I don't expect them to be very active in free agency. I think they're going to pick up a bunch of you know, second and third type of guys. But just unbelievable. I it's you know, it's rebuild. Let's call. It. What it is. And for those who wanna know why is he li- manning still on this team? He's going to be a transition player. I suspect meaning that you know, if they do get the quarterback they'll be able to execute the Kansas City plan like they want to. And then I think maybe after this year, they say goodbye to him. Oh, sure. Patty. I mean entering two thousand nineteen no matter what they did. Ally was always going to be a transition player. The question. Became an it's still is you know, will that heir-apparent will that quarterback of the future come in this draft class in a will it come this year or will giants wait until two thousand twenty. And I think you're absolutely correct. That the additional draft picks the second first round pick puts them in position now to get a quarterback. And maybe to get something else in the first round. If they don't have to move to do it as well. Or if they choose to maybe use one of those one of their picks to to make the move for Josh Rosen as I talked about, but but without doubt quarterback has to be in play here because the giants are now set up to where they can do that. Yeah. And if quarterback isn't in play if they giants come out of this without a quarterback. I would be absolutely shocked. I mean, look you have turned over practically the entire roster since over the last two years. Okay. At some point you got to move on from the quarterback. Look I've been in Eli manning supporter for a number of years. I still say it is not his fault that the team has been so bad. It's not solely his fault. He's partially to blame. But not totally the blame. But you know, you're trading away. All these guys you you're letting these guys walk out the door at some point. You've you've got you've got a, you know, you've got to say, look, we've it's a tough decision, but we've got a rip the band aid off and just move forward. I agree. And I've made the case that that that band-aid probably could have been ripped off years ago that maybe the giants made a mistake, you know, as far back as two thousand fifteen. Eighteen when Tom Coughlin was was basically shown the door. I mean, they the giants at that point time could have basically they could have engineered a clean sweep a rebuild at that point in time. They could have ushered Jerry Reese out that could have gotten themselves in new quarterback and started over, and I think they'd be a whole lot farther down the path. You know, then they are now, but that's all sort of water under the bridge. They're starting over, and it sort of you know, I at this point. I can't waste a whole lot of emotion in a whole lot of energy arguing about whether or not he lie. Manning is the the quarterback to begin the two thousand nineteen season because you know, it it's as obvious as can be that he's not going to be there a whole lot longer..

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Big Blue View

03:06 min | 1 year ago

"ed valentine" Discussed on Big Blue View

"I'm using colleges. Nate Sloan songwriter. Charlie harding. We're the hosts of switched on pop the podcast where Charlie and I breakdown pop hits to reveal how the music works. And why it matters. It's our job to help you find those a ha moments within the music, whether you're a pop fanatic or skeptic, a teenager or an octogenarian non musician or professional composer every music lover. Will discover something you're opening in switched on pop. Yeah. And we think you'll have a lot of fun with us because you're going to get to hear from amazing guest musicians. Song writers producers journalists listen to switch on pop every week starting in March on the apple podcast app or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay. So I'm joined now by Ed Valentine, a big blue view. My former co hosts here at the locked on giants podcast and Ed as we recorded. It is ten o'clock at night. I don't know about you. But I was kind of counting on a quiet night. And such is not the case. No, Patty, you know, just just to let folks know we're doing a little bit of a of a of a joint conversation here you're going to use. You're gonna use it at locked on giants. I'm going to use it on my own new show at the Valentine's use podcast so will be killing two birds with one stone here. But but like, you, you know, I I was all settled down got got the pajamas on. I got the bathrobe on. I was was ready to go watch some TV. And then Dave Gettleman went and traded Odell Beckham to the Cleveland. Oakland browns. And and and I'm still trying to process that when Patty, you know, at I just put together something for Forbes. I just it just published literally seconds ago. I have some thoughts about this. You know, I know I apologize homeless Twitter followers. I had not had a chance to really look at the my mentions. I know there's a lot of people who are upset who are asking. Why what the heck is going on? Whether the giants doing an Ed I just want to mention a couple of things that I put in that article just just for what it's worth number one. I think given the hall that the giant Scott, and for those who don't who haven't heard they not only got safety Gibril peppers, which you know, the bills need it. Also gives them the Browns first round pick, which is number seventeen overall. And the second of the Browns to third round picks, which I believe is number ninety six overall. I don't know about she wed. But I have a feeling that quarterback. Now becomes in play for the giants. I kept saying before the giants made this trade that I thought it would be a pass rusher. At number six. I didn't see quarterback being in play. Now. Think quarterback might be play with this extra. You know, first round pick in and disturb round pick, absolutely, Patty..

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Channel 955

02:01 min | 2 years ago

"ed valentine" Discussed on Channel 955

"They donated our breaking and entering christmas wish to be more joe's cohost for a day this has been steve's big break i saw it on social media yesterday i actually i saw you post i'm hosting the mojo in the morning i shall now what it said what do you say cohosting did you say co i don't know look at it i as i am with with you guys i thought you said hey by the way yesterday we tried to set us fletch up with meghan in and i was kind of thinking that you in meghan would also be a nice little combo yours zingel guy i feel bad for meghan is there any way now not trying to hook up now you're starting to make meghan sank a charity case now knowing how sorry i'm not a good look meghan yeah you you on a male a mustang right ideal you know i'm driving it right now thirty million i mean i'm a car girl what do you think mega i hate that you do this don't let get you jarring now gigs jobs i feel like he just wants to put me in these awkward provisions and then just watch we struggle as there la steve as fletch would say have you seen her behooves oh my god not seen them i've been fortunate to meet meghan yes yes okay now her spends a together and it's a very nice man are you blushes right now with me yes my face is so high you don't even under well we're going to be doing ed valentine's day everybody was excited issue i announced that we're gonna be doing a date meghan for valentine's day a little uh i know hopefully finding you some love steve you can enter that fill appreciate the thank you at this at the pacer goal no there's going to be a line before you get to bail uh anything i applaud before i hit the dirty i'd no just want to say thanks again for having us here the you know working with you guys is awesome we're excited about the mustang coming up and just on top of the f one fifty we're going to go and do 95 dollar fusions till the end of lease this show make it a party you.

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