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Anita Makela: Secrets of Drag Racing
"Today on the podcast we going certainly for me very much of taste the world motorsport after say drag racing scenario. I know very very little about two months with the company We've got here on your host. Ed Straw. Aw We say star guest with respect to my guests are star guest today. Is Anita McCullough full-time for Europeans fuel. Champion and reigning a legend Legend of Of drag racing. I would say thank you. Yeah I saw hits a educate. Educate me certainly I think would be the the mejet so I'm hoping to get as we end this hour side with a better understanding. I guess it's the challenge. Isn't it would drag racing of selling selling it to people because he's kind of a very specialized as Matt that's right. It's very small all sports. But they're caned I find it very enthusiastic and well. That's the sport I've been doing thirty years and I just love it accent. We will find out a bit more about that love of of drag racing. Surely we have brought in another specialist as well. In in Ruben Jackson of best describe of center pulled Santa Pod. I guess Yes yes I do. I work for them. And is it a part time basis. But I've been coming to Santa pod I it's been in existence for fifty four years and I- horrified. I've been going for fifty three of them and I've been working for them. I did essentially a forty year apprenticeship as a paying customer and then they offered me a job So I've been working for the now for twelve years. He is well prepared. You could say well yes. Yeah I hate to think how much forgotten put it lying. You fully forgotten far more than on on this topic take my final guest. Is Somebody with a little bit more knowledge of drag race in the neighbor still should we say relative Relatively inexperienced also magazine. It's a Kevin said now you have been you haven't not support relatively recently thanks to robbing a couple of times once when I was most news editor and then once this year and I put it down on my the three sort of standout wow moments in my most book career. If you like. The first one was watching for one contemporary along through magazines and Becca Silverstein. The second one is the first time I saw an anti walkout lemond and the third one was I taught field dragster leave the line. You've been going to multiple events for years and years and you kind of get a say you kind of get an idea of what's quick and and what you're looking at and you have to completely recalibrate that when you see Towfighi has could leave. The line is caught one of the most remarkable spectacles immutable. We'd say you sold it very. Well they're very very well. I'll have to get along failure. Facial let's come. What's a unique set? How how do you come to be at drag racing? Santigi asked but how do you how did you get into. It comes to be so successful over through years. I just got interested overall in muscle cars and a test wanted to test one of those dragsters. It was like a gas trickster and once you give you a small finger it will take your whole hand. And that's the way how the sport to me. I established this team myself. So I'm I'm very few of those ladies. Were having their own teams and maybe the most important work. What team owner can do is to choose the right people in right places and that's the area where I did succeed and that's behind off my success of these all thirty years so good team and These teamwork at its best. Everyone knows that in Motorsport Drivers need could team and By by the coup team. And when you're having success it will always take you even fast and faster cars Mohan running these ten thousand horsepower. Cars night to talk fueled tractors and they going from zero to hundred kilometers per hour feeding within one and we didn't have second so it's very quick half second and you're going already over one hundred kilometers per hour that's just performance and essentially you're saying about applies to all of radius about having the right people the right draw the right equipment is everything is made so it's a virtuous circle as we say but Robin perhaps you can put a little bit of context on on a neater for those not familiar with with our achievements. Obviously fulltime to European champion is a serious achievement. All in all in top fuel which is kind of the top ten. I guess. That's the category that people think of when Formula One of of drag racing. Yes I mean. It's exactly the same formula. Kilowatt is is the pinnacle of An enormous pyramid really with tremendous amount of stuff below that in top fuel is the same. I'm with drag racing. You know. There's a huge amount of Stuff below that me you can start out is of an extremely accessible sport You can simply come to Santa Pod. We have what we call our run. Walked your brand events where you simply turn up in your own road car Ten pound purpose on the gate. Twenty five pounds to sign on Ugo told a Running on the track and that's the basis of the thing. I mean drag racing started in in America after World War Two as essentially a road safety initiative. You had all these Sort of ex-serviceman coming back from the war often with mechanical article training and this hot running craze took off and the way that they approving their vehicles they weren't demonstrating clever driving skills hills or anything that was actually proving. The vehicles against one another was by racing on the streets. Perhaps some traffic light traffic light and so forth which of course was hugely the Illegal and dangerous and most people kind of wanted to horse with the people you know locking them up But a number of enthusiasts instead tried tried to persuade them off the public roads and onto in those days of course there are a lot of now disused wartime strips Around America so they. They used Those and they decided by chance on quarter-mile as being the classic distance that sometimes at that point thinking in terms of perhaps a half mile. And can you imagine imagine if we run into a half mile now what north the cause would be doing So it grew from that And that that element really continues as with the run Macci Brun Idea and you work your way up from that With top fuel formula me Lewan at the very top of it. I think it's worth putting some numbers on that. Actually because it's now the top fuel cars on over just a thousand feet now instead of the quarter. That's right cool from aw. Aw and even. So they're doing that. Distance in three point eight seconds and three hundred thirty three so I mean yeah the you couldn't. Ah Jason. Wasn't it for safety. Imagine what speeds would be being achieved. If for fifty years they've been doing over half mile. I mean the mind boggles the measure. I suppose is eight smile a to twenty yards at one point of course before they reduced it that was half track and certainly in America. Now they've been and 'cause hitting two hundred ninety nine miles an hour at the eighth mile and typically Ah dragster will will gain gene. Perhaps thirty to forty miles per hour over the second Hof war in this case the from the eight smile to the thousand foot point which even in that distance when an ordinary car gaining that amount of speed in that distance would be quite a lot but when the things during two hundred ninety plus in you know already The extraordinary the acceleration is extraordinary in the thing. So they get progressively slower in fact as they go up the track but that You know all things relative and a NATO I mean the forces involved must be unbelievable. So what are the biggest challenges on around one of the things. You're most concerned about most focused on from the moment that go. What what are the key things that you're dealing with? Of course first of all you have have to learn to drive this using miles per hour you have to use we we do normally so you have to get used to run over three hundred hundred miles per hour. You can't touch that step into the car and do it so it takes time to learn to do that. So you have to control the car all the way so On when launching the car under maybe at the beginning you visit is coming very narrow but when he learned to drive that kind of speed it will spread out a cane and you can make observations. And you see where you're going and that's very important because everything happens interceptor short time especially on the top end and You have to you have to know where you are and where the car is where you are going to take your car to and On the meat way the chief force es about five point five so it's at the biggest. Ah The midway and then it will come down until you call over the finish line and opened the breaking shirts but it's the it's the driver who needs is to control the car all the way but everything happens in the faster than you can think so. You have to respond of the feeling so I'm having like a spot in the middle of the track and I feel where my car is going. It's going like left or right. So it's my like recent with keep it in the straight straight line and my feeling with that and Tara shakes major thing as well. I mean that was just something I know your sister is yes. Sometimes you have to shut it off straight away because once that really kicks kicks in is carnival. I resonate so what can you do to to manage that in the first few y'all of the launch as dry. But you can't do anything it is done by the mechanics. Connex already the way how the car is going to behave. And Dia Sake assaulting that Because you have zero point eight the the pressure in the tires and it will grow when you push the pedal down but it. It doesn't have enough power to make the soft tire ground one. It will cause the tire sake and the tire say can be so severe that it will break the chess cut atrocities and of course. We'll oh keep you as a tribe of a very severe headache and that stuff so it's like hitting pipe baseball pat very heavily but okay. You can't drive. That's that's all you have to leave the pedal and The moment is gone. I'm interested in the the question of the of the amount of driving because people look at anything driving in a straight line but it. It's it's I guess when you're actually it's already as as so many adjustments estimates a make sure it's it's still going in the right direction election with amount of power incredibly challenging and kind of quite easy to underestimate from the from the outside and the most common thought ought after Iran is at. Why didn't I do like that because the moment is gone? You know you have to make the decisions so quickly and then you did the decision and you can't get the moment back anymore. Yeah so many things you have to concentrate and to and SAFETIES number one Easter in our sport of course and you have to realize that there's another car next to you and you have to keep your car in your own lane It's not the top speed. It's what can have which go what can call What can possibly go wrong in that kind of top speed with can cause the problems and you have to be prepared for that devoid of that that it doesn't get out of your control so I presume the problems that might manifest themselves when you walk license that subsidies they start early so you need to learn to recognize? That's a small problem now. The second half is going to be a unless a huge problem. That's when you that's that's right it out of it. Yeah I've had people say to me sometimes Real major sport has corners. That's what some shops had said to me. Once and I point out well I drive around corners every time I go out in my car and it's no big deal. The point is what's your purpose and driving live around the corner driving to the shops. That's one thing if you'll racing somebody else to the finish line. That's a totally different thing. And whether you'd driving around Silverstone Fatu hours or twenty four hours at the mall or a standing start quarter mile a thousand feet that becomes an entirely different exercise from just essentially going motoring so whether it's corners or not What makes drag racing? Standout I think is it's decisiveness. Hi Sickness you qualify against the clock. Yes but then it is head to head. The winner advances to the next round. The loser goes home and and there's no next lap on which to rectify any mistakes he might have made It's an extremely decisive sport in that respect so and you only have ah metro seconds to do all that well. It's it's like any top level sports in the sense that whatever it is yes to win is halt. It's extra yes I'm not saying about having teamwork of the themes will be the same. Yeah so more response to somebody said that would be able to come and have a look then. Yeah absolutely ah Yes and then especially if you're there early enough in the SEC. This of lower classes if the classes and you think okay and you get your own line and then it. As as the day progresses it becomes more and more crazy with a more more more and more impressive so as the other interesting thing from a from a driving perspective is with that amount of power. I guess the thing is I mean. It's like starting enormous isn't it. So He's getting that power down getting to kind of fill threatless graceful. Haven't how'd you control that amounts of Pyla seek tilt about you. Go this'll lighter pushes and try and get that bullet for that. How much of the run is just sort of controlling that power? Do you have A. How easy is it to get one hundred percent throttling everything stable? Does it never gets on that if you if you're going quick yeah driver. There isn't very much to be done. Because you just push the pedal down and keep it there and It's all about mechanical adjustments. And what they've been doing there. And it's like a straight drake bulldogs no gears. But they're they're coming timers. We saw putting more pressure into the clutch discs. And it's like activating them. I'm on the run and And you know It's control the whole run is planned to the Pacific track and what the mechanics. Fluke Mikan. the cruelty looks at. It's going to be like this and so the car needs to be a test like this way. So it's DECI decided by the crew chief mainly what's going to happen but I guess adapting conditions as he goes on there's more rubber down yes temperature if soundly signing if the sound is behind on the cloud everything effect and there's no active electric's on his areas old because a twelve stage clutch. Is that where you're up to. Now I remember saying is a multi-stage clutch that feeds in as you. Go down the run but you can't have electronically effectively mechanically decide beforehand. That's right so it must be a real fine are all that sort of setting up process and for example like this the heartedness and the thickness and everything is influencing to that and everything is measured very accurate way and try to make we try to make the car. Always the same way as it wat- before the Ron so that the crew can make new decisions how to make it go faster if it would be different after each round it would be possible. AH IMPOSSIBLE CHOP too. So in qualifying rounds we always drive to make the car the same way so the cruelty can make his Owned test meant to make the car faster. And that's why we have so much work to do. Between the rounds you can have all the talk and horse power in the world and it has completely useless. If you can't apply it to the track then you can apply to the track. You have the quickest call in the field. It still. Oh completely useless. If Dr Snooze is or doesn't you know fails to control the car properly so those split second. Things that can determine determine the outcome of a race and ozzy talking about toy margins in terms of the the race. Oh twenty four sub four second runs I guess just hundreds thousands insulating not a lot of time to do anything in that that speed hunched Akabusi. You when recently even this talk about the the you know the clutches sets up already funding are very interesting thing. You want to start a lot more as anything this when you start learning but call waiting need to see how it how it will work and really get understanding not just the spectacle which he referred to but just the just how complex challenges and all the things going on that you you you can never guess just from watching the absolutely. I think he's like anything more. You delve into it. The more complicated and difficult and sophisticated Everything is I mean not just opening I watering. I think we should also cover the notch. Percent Methane feel is very potent. So the things that Paul spectacles weather's the speed one amazed by all the loudest federal loudest. 'cause I think I've ever seen under the first win Reuben. Said what do make sure you get some earplugs and you know people say that Rice tracks overtime are lot. Hearing any old are definitely. That was the correct advice. Because it's just it's it's amazing you can hear it through your face or anything you can hear through your faith think without a follow on takeoff or something and the other thing was I'm Robin took me around the paddock. Very Open Paddock And we're fortunate if that's the word for one of the one of the cost to be followed adop- and it it's it's pretty well. You described his tear gas. You know his assault on the sentence. All of that has to be managed you know. It's not just jot any notes. Very exact measurement obviously strictly regulated. That's something presumed team to keep on top of the law as well is there are lots. It's in lots of restrictions. It's not just his path engine will God and run. There's lots of taught taught regulations as well like any tops boys in there. That question of the restrictions is interesting because it does it still feels like sell fuel dragsters and it will might just having restraints to still quite quite rural as well but how how wide ranging Auguste restrictions. I guess there's capacity limits that kind of thing but in terms of how much you can do. It changed much over the years. Is it more become more controlled more restrictions. In how how tightly controlled is it the the actual formula has beeen constant since the early nineteen eighties. The NHRA brought in the five five hundred cubic in true For dragsters for top fuel. dragsters in I think nineteen eighty-one that was settled on That long ago What's remarkable is how How things have progressed in that time? the the the supercharge on any bigger fourteen seventy one superchargers. The nitromethane hasn't got any nitromethane as it were And yet through constant refining. They've gone from those days. They were running the quarter mile in five and a half seconds at A. You know maybe up to two hundred and fifty miles thousand now to to nowadays hitting well over the feed down three point eight seconds or so Well over three hundred miles per hour and and that is simply being through constantly refining The equipment and machinery and Yes where Formula One. For instance the formula is changing every few years they they put in something different but it is actually stayed constant with with drag racing which I guess Everybody complains about the expense of drag racing good. It could yet even more expensive if if they were chopping and changing the formula. So what are the key. Technical Areas Th those gains coming from because I know the Americans conserve a fraction head out on the year top times but I mean they've got four five times as many events in so they tend to have more money as the mobile. When it comes to Britain she has to ocean crossings to do forestalled And you know that doesn't come cheap so The what made a big difference in the mid. Nineteen eighties was the development of the of the lockup clutch before that Data recorders. Now it's uniquely Violent Mechanical Environment And they eventually develop data recorders that could function in that. Not on one of the things they discovered was that clutches was still slipping the finish line so they started to develop these Initially to stage lockup latches watches but things that would actually look properly at a at a given point on the track nowadays is multiple stage. Lock up clutch that has made a great deal of difference. but again you know the engines back then I don't know making four or five thousand horsepower. Now they're actually measured as putting out over for eleven thousand which is you know monumental amounts of stuff not very long? But when they're doing it as you say boy do you know about it. so it's in those refinements in particular and particularly the development of the clutches. You mentioned the the expense of what. Is that the ballpark cost for for running. One of these cars. One thing is. We differs our sport from the other motorsports easily. If you have a race car you can't raise we that you need to have spare parts for example when we are coming to FAA event we can have. We are having four qualifying rounds and then in elimination round day the maximum three round. Because you know the first round there are eight cars and four cars on the finals. So so We we have to be ready to make seven round in a weekend and when we are leaving Finland we normally have seven short blocks with us. Sit of heads for the same amount and a lot of spare parts and In qualifying days we are changing the parts. Like I told you that we are building up the car to be exactly the same way before route so that the cruelty can make the chestnuts central to make the car even faster. And when you're asking the Baltic prices it all depends if he can keep that Packet in one piece. These are not so You can use like in America. They don't they. Just throw the parts away and get the brand new ones from the shelf so to say because they are professionals and they are racing in different level compared to us here in Europe. But because we don't have the money the to do so we are trying to mercer if he can still use to part like Beeston's androids Beeston's getting squeezed and you around one run or the roads can't be getting to Length of other lengths can cro- so we are measuring that maybe happy after the race weekend and if still intolerance can still use them so money was everything is depending what has has happened to the parts but overall idea is at if you have six racy so year it will take you about two hundred thousand euros up to. I mean over that whatever you break so if you push the pedal down and something is going wrong you can destroy the whole end tale from oil pan to that in the actor and every between so nothing can be used but sometimes for example the injector campy used. All the cylinder hits can be used on the floor all the block or whatever can so it depends what happened but It's got a disaster and these. It's like a bottomless thome. Less twelve you can always put more and more money and they know how to say. There's no limit for that but with two hundred thousand thousand-year does if the season is going reasonably. Well you can live with it standard practice of course after every single run that the engine engine is dismantled completely rebuilt completely and indeed any other damage to the call has to be repaired As less pressure in in this country but in America in the NHRA because they're on live television They have a now between rounds and they will complete the whole dismantling and rebuilding process in about forty minutes. Everything completely stripped stripped down. That's just a sign up so ridiculous considering the what you're dealing with that I mean. Do you see some of this going on you. A yes when I spoke to Anita In September there is a there was some serious engine work gang. Although I think one one of Nita's team strength is not having these cataclysmic engine explosions very often you. You've got a very consistent season having a and I I think that's that's probably part of the game as well as how much do you do. You push especially when you're in the knockout stages getting to the finish in Rio you. You don't have to break the European record every time day you need to get to the end whereas some of the I mean when they when they go they guy. They're not really do small engine blogs do they. I mean it's sort of earthquake happens. Yeah that's right and That has been my behind of my success that the consistency is in a key role in tame or has been by so far and that really helps if he can be consistent and we will say in terms of getting three pots. I guess ask anybody. Who's got the Vegas Dave? What drag racing is would have seen some pretty enormous shunned happening upset you with fuels caused caused destroy so I guess that's what's the other kind of risk as well you could you can do damage? I guess that's something that as she talked about earlier. In the hand of the driver in terms of detecting when things are going wrong. You're getting yourself into that situation as far as as far as possible. But he's he doesn't have very safe. Let's put it that way and I can tell tell you that the person I'm how the housewife on the farm chicken farmer and I I don't take any risks in my life life but a test drive these ten thousand horsepower Tocqueville. trickster and I don't feel unsafe because maybe because my family is involved Volvo a building up the car. My husband is a seeing overall that the car is built in the right way. I think safe a that. That reminds you of other draws before particularly looking at perhaps a slightly older racing culture. They're used to and they outing. That looks Alex Unsafe and they get clashing closing. That looks interesting and then if you sit them in one of the guy that's I think about it anymore because they're in their environment that's not what they're thinking about their thinking. How do I go quicker? How do I win? It kind of goes away. The more you're into it. The more was way absolutely. You're right that's the way how it goes that very strongly built drag racing vehicles. Sometimes people again thing odor and he goes short distance straight line not much to it but that the drive here's a course cocooned in a roll cage which you don't get On second racing 'cause because you need lateral vision whereas you don't necessarily in in attracts too so you you have this unit that you'll Sort of cocooned in and I mean some crashes that you see Ian Drag racing course the problem with circuit racing is going straight ahead when you should be going around the corner. It's the opposite in drag racing. When you go round a corner when you should be going straight ahead A not so much in top fuel but Promo Code cars which are the full bodied. 'cause they they frighten me They have very low. Downforce don't force but they can hit over two hundred and forty miles an hour and sometimes you see them get the air under then they get a wiggle on and you can get some really monster crashes but invariably touch wood He says touching his head Dr Is very often will simply walk away. You cannot believe some of the accidents here. You see the drivers walk away from. Because they're so strongly build. Glad you mentioned promos. Actually we should probably cut that off because as as the national championship I suppose very loosely. You'd say it's the sort of British touring cars have dragged the bodies out dissimilar speaking to a couple of competitors actually wasn't wasn't a million miles as well and they are there. I mean. Obviously they're they're they're not named teams have Performance is the top few cars. But I noticed that as well. They diesel skin doubts because the field is half you huge rear wing and they let you know the the. The dimensions are such But with the with the Promo which they're almost silhouette cars on those like yes every Maros or mustangs or whatever but they're bespoke silhouettes but they do skip doubts because they don't have particularly much aero toward the kind of to me. They're a little bit like historic racing way of going about it and they do skipping dollars because there are three different engine types you can. Yes that's right. As well saying he's drag racing has equalization issues the same as well due to talk about the three different categories within the national championship. The original Promo codes were unbeknown Petrol Engines with soot Nitrous oxide injection and then they started incorporating Methanol engines or alcohol agents. They call him the state's blown alcohol engines as you would find in a top methanol dragster that type of thing and then the last ten years or so they've have gone turbo as well So you will an of the of the original type the nitrous engines the UN blow nitrous engines. They go wrote absolute monster sizes Limited effectively effectively. Yes I think the I think the limit at the moment is nine hundred ten cubic inches. So so you're looking at getting on for fifteen liters All packed into a A V8 block. Somebody wants describe them as miracles. Rotating mass of one thing to say you have a big engine like that but getting the daunting to work at that size is is the most extraordinary thing the the The supercharged Methanol engines in the turbo methanol engines are smaller capacities but it is the the effort to try and balanced those out and equalize them. That is a problem and it is The Promo codes are the designated class of the motor sport. UK Okay formerly MSA pretty strong racing championship to also mention that when you say turbos and superstars the limit on capacity. They are still over eight lead. Yeah that's still I think people to can am and when Porsche Turbo charging into that People McLeod who can we get any more out. The chevys eight point two ebbing fifteen liters with with the non turbo shelter sabotage leaders. Overtly to reality is pretty and I think the next year air in the states They're raising the UNE blown limit to nine hundred fifty nine cubic inches. I think so you are looking at. I think Over probably over fifteen liters in that so but marine science monument in this country at least the supercharging seems to be marginally the one to say. Yes yes they tend to go. You get the highest speeds from the turbo. 'cause they tend to launch more slowly but then gather speed more quickly so they European Record is held by a speed record held by turbo car. Two hundred and sixty miles now but the elapsed time records Of being held all along by supercharged methanol 'cause so I'm Not a huge amount to choose between them but it certainly the traditional on blown cars that seemed to be seemed to be at a disadvantage disadvantage. has anyone ever tried to do a sort of a lunch. Adulterous for portraits. US will vote with supercharged and turbocharged can operate in different parts of it was that that explicitly implicitly forbidden under those rules. Yes but I dare say that people have attempted dot kind of thing in you know I mean this is how the pro MoD started did for as an outlaw class in America They decided to erase In the deep South where they go in for that full bodied cars. I mean it's the home of Nascar and back in a mid nineteen eighties. A few races there decided they wanted the debris away from the rules and they were particularly keen on the fifty five fifty. Seven Chevy shape though known as shoebox races and cramming big engines into that They became very popular and outer that. became this distinct class known as pro MoD. It is quite fun Sean. Spot the sort of silhouettes. What they're what they're based the story of a new comer? You've got motoracing background. Yeah that's tomorrow because what call one. This year was a plymouth super wasn't it that's right. Yeah yeah she's a it. It wasn't as if we have more diversity. In Europe. We slow as in the Americans. Needless to say on the pro MODs but might more more diverse body shapes. You go to the states now and Most of the Promo seemed to be I the current vehicles or late nineteen sixties. But you know you come here and we The earliest type body Shell. We've had here is a nineteen thirty eight four coupet Lost ears when not this year's ears but lost ears is a nineteen fifty one Chevrolet Business Coupe A Swedish car You know great character. These vehicles had and yet he could still run like the clap is to essentially see this this references to what we're doing in the US the US is kind of the how you move a drag racing. Nhra's Bryson like somebody just taking about so when you start to see you got the the interesting to come from anew in the US but think you started in in Finland the knee that saw him walk. WH- what sort of difference what what was going on in Finland what we what. We Racing Hanson. How how Wall Street lights operate in in kind of Europe as a as a drag racer competes sir? kind of perhaps what people might be more familiar with in in In in the US. Well I started. Of course the gas dragster between how much smaller than compared to these nitric sisters so the first steps raising in Finland. It was all about American American cars and they were like ordinary. STREETCARS and like Robin. Say that it's all about the history of WHO's having the fastest fastest car and Those days are so to say gone in our sport and everything is coming more and more like professional racing and over the years Of course we are following. What's happening in date because they have so much more races in annual pace they compared to us us so all the development is happening there? And that's why all the parts are coming there as well although the calls come from there that Bhutto to two year have you ever had sort of A desire to go and compete over in America so there have been Europeans of have gone on and tried some have been quiet glide competitively. So is that something you've been tempted by. It's going to go and say well I have to tell you. I'm so happy here. In Europe I have here. I know the tracks I know that officials resuls I know the fellow racers. I have my own friends at the race ways so I'm happy here. Maybe the early days because there was no difference between Venus American tracks and European tracks so we Europeans where we were dreaming that it would be so cool to American tracks and see how my car would work in the subsequent track but now the tracks here in Europe are so good as well. The difference is getting smaller and smaller compared to American contract so I don't see that they can do a very much faster instate anymore due to the track anymore so while I'm happy here but they'll say drag racing. It's kind of a minority. Might despoiling year of his name is not as many doing it. But it's obscene this quite a a small but very determined enthusiastic group of people doing it so I guess slice I you know. Look people guesses quarter a close community arounds around Europe it is it's like When I was thinking that what keeps me hooked the sport while Tease Betide of course ray actual racing east social life there because we are good friends and you're staying the night over at the area most of us so we are having who Lucena like Time to have a chat and get to know each others and that's part of our sports as well the social life and I'm very fond of that as well because at the pit area the life is it's unclean to be dirty and It's a luxury life but I love it all. I think that's a good. I includes the fans as well. I think that's why I mean I was taken aback. GonNa I went the number of people. There I mean it's an equivalent circuit bearing in mind that it's not a big circuit you've got people spread it around. You know. I'd I'd like to a good British touring car crowd in. I said top-end of a national or oh a big story making or something like that but I think Paul is because the the crowd defillo involve not just because they can see the whole run so in the crew goes to join the driver in rob they call often. They're waving they're going to be cheap especially it's been a good run. Everyone kind of it does feel everyone's involved in it and all the although I'm sure there are fans of individual vigil drivers and teams. Everyone just wants to see a really good run. They just WanNa see the numbers. Come up at the end with a record ron or personal best or something I think everyone conjugates be invested in it. It's it's actually quite a theatrical sport inasmuch as it all takes place in front of you On on the stage as it were whereas you go to a second race and people drive pasta and then vanish and then they come back and drive past you again. All this entire drama. The thing is carried out each individual matchup really is a drama in itself and it gets it takes place on the stage In front of you and you've got the audience Lined up on either side around it so it it gives that kind of an amphitheater atmosphere. Perhaps and it's not just the right. There is because the burn out the star as I'm drivers seemed to do most of the realm before backing up again so that kind of Austin Spectacular Pacu and then they're edging forward into the box so it kind of even though they caught short runs the e. s. over very short episodes of of a drama each time yes is also one thing that's been mentioned in passing with the same in each. He's kind of a family. The family team which I guess is although unusually it sounds quite important mm Fang and so so if you kind of did your family have you rub the Molenaar as we saw this kind of a drag racing family effectively just popey lock on From state who said that the family that race together stays together and if you can share the same passion with your family. Hey Hey how lucky you are. And I'm blessed with a family who is who one of them likes the sport of course when the kids way young like five six or seven years old. They have the choice to stay at home if mom and dad went to the raceway so we always took the kids with us and Obviously they are years that they get a little bit board but you know kids they easily pick up their own small tasks thicken clean salting and when they feel that they are part of the team that keeps them hooked. I swell among all now Paul. The night that's right. My daughter daughter Hannah cease working at helping them sealing the heads and assembling the short blocks with my husband and my son is taking taking care of our clients. So it's really family business so you call it places. They've gone down the civil engineering mechanical solid than the coma. I want to get in and have a guy. Cain one day if that happens Maybe I will join the MOMS club and I'll be worried what will happened if I'll give this car to my dear daughter or son and it's kind of funny that when you're driving yourself you feel how to say I can handle earliest but Kenema small daughter or some do that or even my husband. My husband is having coffee license as well. So it's different and if you're travelling yourself or keep the car to your dear once. Maybe she did another public vote. Isn't you do public with your husband. Say which one of you would get the drawing. That's why isn't it. Yeah it's it's it's more because of fun boy well my husband. So gentleman he always as you can have the seat. You did how you did have kind of a break in your career see at a at a family and oh those fulltime three of them have come in recent years I saw in the second half of your of your career. She recites that is quite unusual cease of a career break. You can come back and be even more successful that's right. I think that's very common Indo Women's sports overall whatever sport. That is the when you're having your family after kids. Your career is done but I had the possibility okay. It was me my husband who returned back to racing and I just went to see Thomas Raising kids and I noticed that my our kids krone so that they may not dangerous to the cars anymore and the causeway not dangerous kids and then would you like to try unless is it. He S and here. I am still and it's probably worth mentioning the right isn't it because you're I taught in two thousand anything of what what was happening elsewhere in most would put it in context marks you macro was just about to win his third world title. Jason Plato. Just started in British touring car. So that's a lessening credible longevity to remain competitive over. That's is that is that quite normal. People stay in drag racing for a long time in Europe at Lee we. Oh yes in America as well. There are people who are having a like a long career but Even off the thirty years I still feel can learn more and that keeps me still driving. I still feel that first of all of course I have to be competitive. I can't be competitive. DT And I can still learn can still go fast and in our sport experience bay play such peak kroll as well the mall. You know how to handle that. Ten thousand horsepower cars. The more you can the bitter you are although Oh of course the eight might slow you down but The other areas you can still say you can still be good or better than the other ones. What's interesting because that kind of drag racing about reactions arms and that kind of thing so I kind of think it? Ah kind of a very young person's guide but clearly it. It isn't an I guess. The Fat eubanks is successful now. So my success when in the Palestinians does support support. You say that experiences incredibly valuable experience is the book what can possibly go wrong in drag racing. It's very thick and although it is very short time we are driving but so many different things can happen and If these small mechanical problem glum it's all about. It's all about if the traffic can still handle and take the win although whatever happened and Maybe the thing is that whatever happens before you're going over the finish line you have to try to do your best. And after you're gone over the the finish line then the game is over and you never know the other one might get protest like few centimeters before the finish line. Never give up. And I'm Mike Car is built at. I don't actually see the other car at all. I don't ever know where the other car of course it so much in front at the it's offers but if it's like next to me we don't know which call one we racer so when we go over the finish line and slow down and just wait for our crews to come because of We don't always know which one one. But when we see the tow car coming with honing the Eh Carr and plinking the lights and tearing out okay. That's my car my car. I might give away then isn't it. I wonder at the point where you're talking about identifying problems before they develop and probably I imagine this truth Motorsport General Sport. Generally you probably probably say even if your reaction time falling away slightly you poorly make up for that then defying that potential problem earlier because you go all. This is like a sub-conscious though. I imagine this is like like such and such time I need to do this. Stop that happening where somebody who doesn't have the experience it's happening and they're reacting to it and so with the public that's right. Yeah yeah absolutely but to compete. I mean if the other car works as it's supposed to work than it is hard to beat if he's like mechanical the problems of course you have to try that. UK usually get what is known as a pedal fast in eliminations. Obviously it's it's who gets to the finish line first that wins and it doesn't always mean you're you're running to maximum we An extremely good example of that that was The European finals about seven or eight eight or nine years ago When it came down to the championship and ship came down to the very final run the final round between Earth Air Backer and Hristo Potanin another Finished driver and and both of them struck the ties at the launch and They were on and then the off and on and smoking the whole way up and it was. It's it's one of the most memorable final rounds at anyone has ever seen in actual fact I think And you know they managed five or six seconds. John's I think in the end when they got there but it was it. Was this on off on off all the time. Neither car was working as it should have done But get to the finish line. First and the winner was the champion for the year. So and that's where the nature of the event changes isn't it 'cause during the qualifying if you do have a problem as normally shutdown down and there's no point in putting strain through the components whereas once you into the knockout you'd never know someone is having even worse problem than you so you just you just have to keep going. I think that's idealized. Some of the terminology pedal fast food is always star guest on To BARRINGTON BOYLSTON expert. About how wade is kind of a neater set in terms of the rights in the European and Anita currently is is the the European drag racing superstar Victory of the European finals in September was her fifteenth FAA Top few win which puts a six ahead of the nearest challenger on the wind list. There's about well if it doesn't events a year so yes yes yes so she's dominant At the moment and she's one of well at that the European finals we had eight top fuel fuel cars and four of them were driven by women and An eternity qualified third. I think didn't you'll not but DOT COM The eliminations day absolutely size lose the opposition Who you know weren't up to scratch and so so forth and yet Anita wanted straight through So extremely impressive display there is a need to the any particular the draw. You're looking out for the cipher next season of thing and they're going to be difficult debate or or you say focused on your own game that you're not really to build that who you're up against when I wake up on Sunday morning. I'm only thinking that whoever is coming I have to beat if I want to win. You have to beat them all. If you WanNa win you have to beat them all so I keep on telling myself and actually. I don't pay very much attention. Who is on the other line KS? All might sport focus on doing your job giving giving Roy because that's not to worry about without thinking about anyone else's anyone else is doing but I'm I'm very keen now and getting the two sons opponents I was. I was just looking through your actually the sensible very very busy event calendar sense now in the course of the year Not all at weekends Not all listed on there. I mean we have drifting events almost every week I think Wednesday afternoons which. We don't advertise not a spectator prevent such but is pack the place out with with drifters. They will come in. So there's essentially something for everybody that of the conventional drag races as it. Were there only well airfield more now. I think that probably only about eight in the course of the year but so many other the things we Volkswagen events there some of the biggest that we have and different Different Karl Marx and Family Events Um and you have your own historic event historic tends to go track styles. Yeah well we actually have story events on that right yes yeah nostalgia. Drag racing is what it is drag style and that's a relatively recent event. Dr- Nostalgia Races have been taking place Since the nineteen nineties They tended to hold them at The now defunct Shakespeare County raceway long master near Stratford-on-avon But we developed drag style. I think twenty thirty was the first year that it was on his now become a very large Event and but we also have a couple of other The hot rod drags and and The nostalgia nationals wish both migrated over to us from Shakespeare County And there's also the vintage hot Rod Association have a race as well so you're quite Well covered you know if if historic drag racing is your thing The drag style is is the biggest best best of the lot. I want one other thing mentioned in now. No one's primary to say it's on the face of it. It's quite complicated the different classes. I feel viewing whole event. The Oxygen Carter's in different things. You can go in for by my experience. The the programs of really helpful they wanted this essential reading. I think if your new comer to sit there and go through and it's really good and explains what you're watching and then you can get your all in our says that'd be my recommendation to any in November. Two goes to get the program and actually I did enjoy that because at the back of the set. I've got a glossary with lots of those fabulous Jack racing terms that you enjoy. I'm enjoying enjoy them. Definitely GonNa get so I guess the ones that stand out as you got the first and last rounds of the European Championship says one on the for those in the UK year the Spring Bank holiday in May so may twenty any seconds a twenty fifth and then September thirteenth. For the for the finale. Those are the ones that are absolutely there are two Primedia Crimea races We tracked too big crowd. We attract all the top teams from Europe. And that's the next time we shall see Anita presumably unless you have to becoming tested rested Easter or something of that sold but Yes the round one of the European Championships Spring Bank Holiday at the end of May other active. The venues for proper drake's no not any more sadly the other MSA or Motor Sport UK Sanctioned venue was Shakespeare County that has gone the way of Housing Estate Sadly And then there was your Chris way which has closed down beginning to be reborn again. I think in a small way for various reasons so Santa Pod is actually now the only functioning permanent drag strip in the country entry. I mean they have they wrote run Drag events at other locations fields and so forth on a on a fairly small-scale l. basis. But you're not going to see the top fuel dragsters and so forth nowadays Years ago you could maybe run those airfield sites nowadays you can't you need. The purpose has built the proper tracks with proper safety equipment and so forth and he's how many top venues in in Finland is that sort of there. Is that one Goto or more only one one. FAA event but they of course they are like in local races as well for a smaller category cars cars and Maybe like There are two different Two tracks in Finland or and then they have like a street meet STREET STREETCAR SCANNED RACE. Like airfields on that stuff so but only one. If I ate event similar to Zahir that in that regard that's got some old tracks thing that's persuade Silverstein smell some of the phone circuits of God. Sir Who dragster famously famously Hockenheim can hook nosed foreign to some of the jobs that can keep the good apple. Rain's GonNa says Oh yes whereas its big deal in in In Arabia Bahrain and Abu Dhabi and The country's is the busiest form of motorsport which people don't really recognize one of of your Former colleagues on on arrival Publications several years ago wrote A review of motor support in the in the the Persian Gulf area And I spoke to him after that and he said to me you know. What the busiest type of motor racing is there? I said yes I do. Actually he said yeah drag racing and there's a lot of it not not at the top fuel level but Street 'cause Promo type cars and so forth. It's it's A great deal going on there. You can see well it just from seeing what's on the roads actually places a lot Bahrain Lorraine into by an abbey some questionable driving Messo. So I understand I never get to but yes and you can see the on if she said the American cockroaches very obvious. That's that's a good gives us a kind of a a growth area Well it's been fascinating you to get a bit of understanding of it really Joy I'm honored to work out whether either those European championship rounds. It's a sensible cash for next year if they don't all definitely be along to as otherwise. I saw him much more than meets the eye to this to this kind of thing and also so many analogues with the rest of my exposure. Recite Sir. My Noviny coolness still assigned thing isn't it. Thanks very much. I need some accurate Jackson. Kevin Sooner so please checkout autosport dot com for latest in the world of formula. The rest of Motorsport. Let's magazine out. Every Thursday the US will put cast out normally every Monday and Thursday. And you can find that wherever you found this. Thanks for joining us. We'll be back same with another. We'll we'll put cost The music is six. Am By treeline written by Marcus. Awka Simmons See soundcloud dot com forward slash. Trio Music
BoN 2020/23 British GP Review
"Vis. Walks trolls with by Calama Nacho, James dowse towel style. Say Copy, copy. From ABC, which stands for buddies, car where we're recording this episode this week, we're not allowed to even park at the one spot because we can't afford to pay for the parking here. With your house band I thought rose and the wider go sleep on the street orchestra viewing specifically the last three laps of the pretty strong prey because everything before that was pretty boring. This is box of neutrals. My Name's Michael of it. Joining me. It's always easier up James. It is the classic case Michael of you remember the last three laps, Bristol impre because the rest of it doesn't matter. It's like whenever you chewed into exports and they do a rape plow qualifying and they. Cut Cut at. Q.. Jumped straight to key to because he does that George Russell. Nicholas Latifi, we'll get eliminated for from that station. Telling you. What for those of you who stayed up because? I had this guilty of well, I went with that phone with one for so long we'll be rude of me but. we we were. We were gainfully rewarded. Ties exploiting every way front wings of falling off Lewis. Hamilton crossed the line with only three wheels which I feel like it's probably might be the first time that's happened. Someone probably correct me on that decade. Technically, you had full wheels, but I didn't care so much about the technicalities it looked good. Interesting. That plus Sigit Perez. We seek, but he's he gave me sticking around or is vital a bath to take say that in many other speculative questions to be asked on this episode of box of neutrals. Oh you WANNA listen to books of neutrals. Well, how about you fill out this form yellow one? Oh. Really. You have to hang around for these strikes. Didn't you slow burn I think, Martin, brundle described as a slow burn I. Think even that was kind of overselling it. It really was more of a freak accident that we got an interesting into these is and it was very interesting when it arrived exactly exactly It was it was with the white. But it wasn't. It was very much an artificial sort of Edna Givi catch adrift in terms of while it wasn't the rising that manufactured. This result it was basically. There are I almost negligence and a willingness to take risk beyond the recommended parameters. It's biologically. I think I run the gauntlet when I buy a of Salad, I put it in the fridge and it says continue within one day. Rate is lighter. You've got an L. window of which this could either pay off really well, or I will live to regret it. That's basically what happened was was. WAS TIRE FOOD POISONING Hinders pretty screw. This first. British Grand Prix reflects poorly on the Pirelli buff I. Suppose if this is what's going down over it soon, listed especially, if we're GONNA have to do the same thing next week I'm. GonNa, risk the salad this time next week. There are problems in the salad and it's warm donated. That's that's really the rule here, I? Think that's what the teams learn this weekend. The last three laps. Really we wanted to be more generous. Let's say, maybe the last ten laps because this is Wayne Veltri. Batas started to notice that something was going something was fishy. Baddies front left tire. Stop Manage, it moved to moving back towards maximus tapping into the I did enjoy sky sports made it sound like there was going to be a rice on even though there was like ten seconds between them, which is too big to rights, and then all of a sudden exploiting like it was whatever year it was that the ties were exploiting silvis into river. That year was a twenty twelve. Thirteen nothing, those effort wasn't that Al.. Was I I who majesty's I? Think you'll see a team. Oh. Yes. Yes. I think you're up. You're. Yes, it was I. Who Majesty's Wasn't it? Yes. Good Faculty. Well. ABC Sleuth is exactly someone someone factfile of scholes keeping track. and then it's Bought us. Then it was collar science. Poor guy wasn't even contending for victory and he had a tire explosion and then all of a sudden Lewis Hamilton win from telling you team that he's ties with cool to. He's ties were no longer. Inflated, which is not the good outcome and I. The idea that we had for half a lap literally like countdown like beat the bulb at the bottom of the screen, between Hamilton, and on new salts to get across the line, it was one of the most exciting lost half laps that I can remember ambitious of that Amazon graphic. Suggest that way when. It was still ten percent of rubber lift. If you were in, you know if you're an economist, you'll go well valve. Until us. Otherwise. You look into your money's worth. He's GONNA get value. You're going to get value out of these ties clearly, if he hadn't stopped on the track and there was something still to be out of that set of rubber and so unlucky, for Veltri, as well because the tile let go literally meters after he passed the pit lane. So you have to do almost a pretty much a whole lap on these three tires ultimately dropped into eleven. He was contending victory. Victory was second probably GonNa, win this race, but he was pressuring Hamilton the pretty much the duration and then didn't even score a point because the tile was so rude, let go at two and three, I. Think it was instead of turn fourteen haven't many turns, right? So and I can't remember the names, Eva. That's irritating to me. It is very hot track to learn all the corners. Think I love field only because? Martin Brundle said it was a shit. Cool. That's the only. MAGGOTS BECCA is that really spin hanging straight. That's that's. That's a good one SKYPE PAT on. That's the famous one. Is. very much older. I always get confused on the F. One game between the first corner off at the end of the start straight and that other the old start finish straight, I very similar to me, but one is slow and I always crash there that they're going to be using Silverstein as part of the cognitive tests for. US President Donald Trump just. Turned one, he's mad. person. TV. The older? Name Elian saying that I. Deficiency? Wear. All right. The rice was like the race was light retired. You're going to have to revert to take just remember the words. It's fine. So. Poor old Veltri. Batas didn't even score point maximus step in though suddenly could have won this rights and you must have been kicking yourself. If you a red bull racing to have made that pitstop two laps from the end of whatever it exactly was thinking that. Well, you know one Mercedes has lost its tires, but surely won't happen to the other one I need to discover that indeed and old lost a golden opportunity to win. Maybe he's best opportunity to win a race the season because we'll talk about this in a moment. But despite the fact that this race almost completely stuck from Mercedes, that car was still way too quick for anybody else it was. It was staggering. Just. Of course when eventually for. The sort of the the Feick, the accidental Tarak. The TV. Yeah of course, Lewis. Hamilton the head still manage to cross the flag with three wheels on these wagon with with with enough overlaid, which begs the question. And of course, Helmet Monaco ever the. The realistic that he's I. Don't think he was thrilled that maybe the tame pitted for new ties just for an extra one. Could have come out with maybe an extra six. points. Stuck guns. But I, yeah, I think it was a case of, well, if I didn't do, it could have been themselves victim to to the to the combination that would have been a very bizarre podium because it why would have been? Wouldn't it? But this is been Charles Leclerc. That would have been something. Wouldn't it? Considering this as far as having because this is the thing. This was such a weird rice because I, mean, we really kind of go back to the lap twelve or whatever. It was Daniel key at crashed massive crash remain as well, and he also speaking ties like had. Some kind of right. Rear Puncture threw him off the road. Team ended up confirming that. He was very upset with himself and with the camera managed him. Emotional to Russia crash. But that was just sort of on the cusp when everyone suddenly wanted to do a one stop strategy ironically enough for Lewis Hamilton although I guess he wants it so. It was him lost. Ya, in twenty nineteen doing a one stop where no one thought, it was possible to probably put these ideas in people's heads and everyone then tried to get out from twelve thirteen to the end of the rights which is forty. Forty lap? What is it? Forty? Forty laps? Whatever it is. Which is pretty much the limit of these tire, which meant all these cars were sort of Dryden. These dangers earned Kenny loggins dangers aren't at the end of these rights. And it's a combination of that and probably as well. I completely unrelated. But kimmy your front wing just deciding had had enough and collapsing and maybe dropping debris on the track that meant suddenly all these ties with no trade left on, them very exposed to these little bits of carbon fibre. Now, the question on everyone's. Last week. Speak News was course. Alison clock said we'll he coach. All on Hawks and say, twenty twenty, one knicks. New New brand, new brand new cycle. Is Kimmy. Rock. Is E. DOT com. He's done. He is surely surely Did you say the move of rocket and? Cracking the sad on when all cracking the. Bikini giving. Tame radio when he's engineer told him to stay at stance they at despite the fact that he was well in the pit line. And to paraphrase. He just said already here, have told me earlier. We could have been to solution to give. That's exactly how he's fits out. People's Piggyback Your acted speaks about as emotional as these speaking normally, but it's a good question. Isn't it? Because it's against the background as well of whether or not? Sergio? Perez is going to have to leave racing point and the main go back to what is essentially Salva. Alfa, Romeo. His first team and ended up probably means that'll become your argument say, but on the other hand Reichen I mean for a man who has. I mean, there's almost literally zero stake in being a Formula One driver at this point these during it because he's got nothing else to do, he needs to do something needs a job and you might as well be a formula one driver. But you know he he could have said by now that this is going to be last year if he wanted this to last year and he could've said I. was already bogus to most of the whites. He could have said United Don, and that might last couple of you can just do whatever he wants essentially if he's already doing that. But so so that makes be thinking as much as it does seem ridiculous that he's just entering every rice infringing seventeenth. Maybe, he will just continue to maybe he really just has nothing else to do. He has no other interests outside of this and being on a yacht, the old Nelson pay. Sort of lost oil because. He's already had that. Thais of life inside a full when the one and with crash. and. As much as this. This is a block who. Doesn't care, but he's he's not plus by a lot of things. I don't know what else they can do because I don't particularly say. The. Wonderful World of endurance racing because I don't think he has the attention span for. Secondly We've talked about this once or twice a, it does. Drive is. are in the system for so long, and then then the music stops and it's just like well. We're going to do now. Lost Pretty Boring. With, the one drive. Or, if you don't have any other. Sort of interests I probably just. Like? Yeah. Let's be too old to get peace every way. You can take the snowboard and the and the the sort of the in the sort of. Fun Powerful, but that's Saturday. Sunday at the. Y.. Yeah What's he going to do this? Because I don't know if Putin around Fifteenth Place and having your front wing spontaneously. Attach is much fun either it is quite a sad state of affairs known only for me. But also for that team in species because it feels like you know last hour kind of doing a riot. Yeah, most races I think for probably majority of the races with their bats, and obviously, it wasn't that long ago. He was a Ferrari driver as well, and suddenly this year, it's just been awful like the doesn't look objectively. And you know it's hard to be motivated. I, guess when you're young Kimmy Reichen, you've been around for plenty of time. You've won Rice's only a couple of years ago and you can't even get it out of Q. Three, Q. One rather. Yeah. It's. It's a real struggle and sort of what's what's the point? Maybe just fun design for the one thing, we can just do a better tens up the Heli, one. Maybe. You know what? especially. Key rocketed manager and a sauna do for rocket together rising point next year they. Get around, there's my wildest ropes. Ropes. The dramas doesn't believe that will happen. Could Happen. It could what happened if it's been stated, it could happen. That's. That is Let's briefly about Sebastian biddle, logically logical enough connection because I can't remember doing that before this. Versatile had one of these worst weekends in recent times not in a crash. Since in fact, I think he crashed will spawn at all this weekend. But in a just bad form, since TV Perry lost a lot of practice. He had the problem and then he's pedals in two different practices will lose, which seems like a very unusual problem to have that Disease Ferrari in twenty, twenty, I guess. Qualified ten was running twelfth eighty into the rice, and then go back the tenth of series of those tire explosions. which is good for him, his point. But even after the rice and I feel like we're really being, it's really costing us these mosques that everyone's wearing because I feel like you can only see a lot in sebastian bills, expression continent. 'cause he's wearing the Ferrari Brandon Moscow cigarette mosque. That he always. seemed. Confused. He seemed out of sorts didn't know what was going on. He seemed dies does he couldn't get that test correct that Donald Trump's talking about. and. Knowing these last, obviously, the relationships, not perfect with the TAME. This seems like a real. Sad. Sad for me to wonder is this just seems like a really sad moment. Yeah. Considering the hype that he arrived at Ferrari Ng. Again. Another sort of sad chapter closes at Ferrari. They don't really have. A. Handful of is having to had the best sort of DVD's. It's. It's. It's it's been tricky obviously Fernando was. Lift lift that Tabin listening audience. And as Sebastian and they collectively that six world championship. Sort of yeah. Drive is. Showing the. Door. There's obviously the big picture at at Ferrari. Going forward. But yeah, it like it's a shame, it's a shame that we couldn't do it because it was the big. I think test and good on for. Putting his reputation on the line because there was always that. Idea that he was only good in in. New ECON. Statistically that's. was put in the Niger new car but. Let's forget. He was victorious in that car competitive, but it's just. Time. Went went past. Let's don't forget. He's beaten to that team since. What twenty and fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, not six years long time. As rebel. I would actually even say even longer than red, bull? So. Actually, he was at Reveille nine until the end of fourteen. So. He's been there as long as as is red. bokhary has no extra trophy wall championship trophy at least. Through shuffle. So. That is yeah. That that is a sad ending but but let's not forget. There's a lot of drivers that don't have jeb sheep trophies cabinet and Lewis Hamilton is. Somehow, Nico Rosberg has. To show it to you in that Hannukah. I've seen that commercial too many times. In the last month. I'm really like I'm becoming a little bit deranged because it's the same three advertisements. It's that one the KFC add with iconic popping. The doesn't make any logical. Doesn't have any narrative since the one with the gods to scan through the LIGHTBULB hair? What does that mean? Yeah, it's. The debate about this, it's going to be in film studies. In high school will the KFC commissions. What is the main? What is the point of of of of someone signed cave? Say. The knowing one was the one with the with the payers. Put the bloody revenue. That one was so good one. L. And the Elton John O.. Flying was that about what was that that was? Yeah. It was. It was an Australian. Supply. Python. Full in the Groin head football in the garage. It's A bit like if you've seen that video of brick kirk doing the. Talking about the? Bunch of unique individuals on Saturday afternoon football. It's sort of in that sort of realm. It was very, it was very strange. It was it was I was just very strange. Someone me because I tweeted in just baffled benton confusion. When I it's not the first time. The first time I, let it go. But then they played it a second time within twenty minutes of the first. I thought that something had gone terribly wrong and something to do with skysports describing these as your rice and so. Called your is it called? You'll song I don't even know. But, my fight. So, I can understand why someone might have chosen that parallel, but the lyrics don't make any sense. The classic lyric if I were a sculptor, but then again, no. That's not a knife. They stopped the they went to another shot after I don't get it. It was very, it was ten thirty at night I couldn't comprehend. It was too much for me very much. The case of if. If you were exploiting these video, it'd be all well, you have to be in the production mating to get it. All and the other, the other production, the court everyone's. Lazenby? Very big on the sort of the the the white we Rice's one campaign if there was growing transfer formula. One, he'd be over. For the ones attempts. With the in racism campaign, of course, it was a democracy in Hungary because it was just disorganized, but this time brandon was a lot better but. Certainly the video. The montage of all the drivers speaking. At, of course, you're winding winding Wisey Greisinger. Mex-. Spokane Shawls Spoken even so Nick, are books. and. They've all said sort of substantial. Woods. said even full sentences. Keep your rocketed I stand. We're going GONNA. Get Lucky to get to that was so like you have only two words in all of Dr Survive as well. something. I, gotTa The v the very, very end of the step aside saying something like. Those. Okay. Something like that. Yeah. It was good. But that's More. Yeah. We'll tangible stuff that could gallon. The I did I definitely did a better job this week, the video recorded on zoom though it probably may have been. was. A good touch. It just say was being taken seriously. Sort of cohesive way rather than. The, we like especially the previous race where no one even knows going on. Much better job, but but but but that said, it's all about and the point that. Married, was actually really really good point which I think. A lot of people sort of. Still had seven drive is not type, the name, but. But on the other side of that occasion, Guenter. Made the very good point of he doesn't have to be. You don't have to wear. To. Those values in your heart. So he took took the wise sort of angle because I. Think, there would be NATO between John and and Hamilton after suffering Hungary or Austria. That's that grows on the just got other fights now with waving drives now. So he's got to other problems to deal with. Trump briefly. WanNa, talk about Alex Elbow on as well. Another rice in which he sort of made good on Sunday, but was kind of off the pace during the week. How to be crash in practice if I think it was neither he started if he's a little less all the time and a battery problem as well on Saturday morning in practice. The team giving him a new. Chief. Engineer or. Race, engineer more senior engineer as well. The guy worked with down here. Ricardo. For example, Apparently the for the same thing lost give it to him. So already, there was a bit of like unhappiness reading for. Gaza lease courts this weekend. Whether or not? It made a difference. It's hard to say because he had quite disrupted wake in, but I mean it's it's really I find this dynamic, really interesting because it had. I mean I know where in the also four into this as an although it's August. So that does account for as part of this, but I feel like Spain, any other year red bull racing. We wouldn't be feeling the kind of support they still seems to be for Alex L. Bond and I guess it's because he's making good on Sunday, which is something. Ghazali? Didn't manage to do but. At the same time, they still this ongoing room as if you like the these I don't know bad noises about his tenure at red bull racing because he's had quite a few qualifying performances now that you know it's not careful. He'll be on the way out. I always feel like. Well Red Bull's. Big Policy isn't exactly working either. So maybe they need some sort of get the. Alex album bit. And to. Sort of give him what he feels like. He's condemnation which which which did it really work out this weekend bit What other option do they have I mean they go outside almost the red bull bubble to to to find anyone else. I. Know that Sebastian vittles available. But that's not really that's probably not what they're what they're sort of long-term and the there's no doubt that. On He's a talent mean. I made the point last week Max. Shepherd. Had also issues. He's got. He's got immunity. And he sort of. has to just continuously be performing poorly in order. To. Stop, paying questions. So so Alexy's just in A. In a slump and we say that with athletes in all sports, they're just like rj the county, the ball over the. Catch a bowl. Decide they live, and then all of a sudden, this one events where all of a sudden. I smashed the world number-one, plyer will. They get a whole. They get like eight holes. and. All those other things that have to threat I'm fluent with. Comes together just works and so for Alex, that's just what he did. He just needs one good rice under his belt. And then some spectacular rices. Because it's the CA-, it's. Almost, like history repeating itself with gasoline having a great. Introductory season in Toro Rosso does get drafted Eden the back half of the season, and he's still performing strongly and then we get to the season two of his tenure and sort of wool. This is. I'm just I've had all the highs but I haven't had any laws yet. So, it's just he's just go to just go to suffer suffer through it. As, well, Castille despite Max with stop and Telling them. I. Guess. Undoubted and we know he's very good at driving around problems in difficult 'cause. No. I kind of stuff despite these pace cars very difficult driving I. Think it was. PULL, Monahan. Again. Someone sitting inside red bull racing. They just have to be honest with themselves and say the car they giving Alex. good enough in the sense that that cars got some fundamental problems, it's hard to drive the balances tricky. which you sort of saw, if pay to win L. Bon was at that time fastest at the beginning of the like one lap simulations. But then crashed all of a sudden just lost the car couldn't recover it. It's clearly still needs to be out. Yeah, and Alex is well, it's a lot of it will be psychological as much as the car is not up to a I, guess a premium standard, but certainly a lot better than. A lot of drive is would would be certainly if that's eight were available would be We'll be knocking on the door in order to take to get that seat so. It's not a Terrible. Car I've got to stick with Alex is the moral of the story. Well, he's got another race at Silverstone, of course to try and make good on whatever windros this weekend get some more practice under his belt as oppose and another driver who may well have that second opportunity as well. A second chance to second chance. It's Nico, Hawkin Berg who came, he's only been gone for nine months, whatever it is technically, misteri racism in preseason testing. So actually, not really that long in the grand scheme of things, but he came back and immediately I mentally arised Esteban con from the list of drivers like I assumed, it was just back to the White was twenty, nine, hundred was great compared to twenty twenty years a virus. The racing was like we still believe Ferrari Might Manta title challenge? It's great yeah. He did quite well, I mean again, considering the fact he has taken me seventy three races, but that is a long time that he's not been in a Formula One. Car and we could tell already that he's nick was pretty sold by the end of this weekend. Qualified are. It wasn't the top ten, but was quite close to strong terms of lap times less than a tenth of a second in Q. Two, and then a clutch bolt shit, and who's ever heard of that happening. What I've had a clutch explode on me, go cod. I could tell violent experience. As the only qualified, rising, drawn and graphic designer on these. Speak with authority on that front. It's A FROM It's yeah. It was a shame that. Wasn't able to sort of show that potential, but then again. The rice SOC proves that. As Martin said, it's it's hardly a pink Mercedes win. It's sort of hanging. It's being passed by. And McLaren's with them with relative ease so I don't think. I don't know how competitive that I would have pain. Even, with two cars on the field. Next week will be will be interesting to say especially if. If we get the softer Tyre, compound coming through, supposedly, we will be even depends on what they find were these ties, but supposedly, we will be I I was thinking the same thing when modern brundle said that. Well, what's the point of cut copy that fast I know that they haven't capitalized like they should've early in the rice, so they should have more points, but this race was clearly and underperformance, I couldn't help. But think that this is a team that needs a driver like Sebastian vital. Theoretically be even though savell had a pretty average rice has had a couple of dodgy seasons. Up Bad. For Me Lon stroll it seemed did not extract enough from this not in qualifying tried the medium tiny did get through to the top. San. So that was good but then didn't really do quite enough in Q. Three to make much of a difference in in the rice. He was just losing positions for most of the grown pray was lucky to score a couple of points in nine th plies Sergio Perez might have done better. Nico might have done better although, of course, it was his first weekend in that car but. You look at that performance, and you think this is a car that should really be doing well here. Maybe it was police set up. We don't know how much of this was data the company should be doing. Well, look good in practice. It just needs a driver who can maximize it and I think that's a reassuring point. Is that if this car is supposedly as good as everyone's climbing today, then it's it's not a case of well any old schmucks. That can yes. Turn a car, lift. Surat can actually. Extract performance actually goes to show that. The real standout drivers will always shine no matter what machinery. You give them with. Sebastian could actually do that because 'cause sometimes just caused just aren't paper. Yeah. It's just. There's on philosophies different. I mean you look at Special Ferrari and just hasn't just hasn't worked Yeah. So he would be interesting to say someone like would have been interesting to Hamilton at. As, but news still hasn't signed a contract. But. Yeah, it would be interesting to say someone will championship driver Asari will champion driver. Actually. Sample that machine actually. CAN LIFT IT UP THE FIELD LOOK FIDEL ALONSO NEXT SEASON Kenny, actually do it. I mean he hasn't driven a world championship guard very long time. At least in folding, the one and. It's going to be the silver bullet for. Next year either but. I do when they're on bloody held there on. It is going to be interesting to say, and this is why we should have had regulations that said drivers could swap 'cause in the middle of the mid season. Draft would have been fascinating, would've fascinating, but someone the sensible point, the conduct of the Bible, you can't do it this year. This year, the pandemic would have ruined for Milan unless there was like a three week gap in which. Light another bubble. And then into a different bubble subsequently after the first couple. Sorry. The second of the first bubble which into and then the third level. Very, easy. Loaded lower. Lovely Vendetta I. Yeah I. It's just not practical. This as an and like I said, are actually on the drive market to muck around mid season the. The. What's being dished up in a in a potential twenty? Twenty, one season. LETTY held his Oxford Vaccine Bitta come before. The first round necks as an otherwise, we're going to be equally compromise been. Yeah. I WanNa, say the hour I, WanNa white for the for the true lineup of twenty twenty one. I want to Real Hollywood lineup. One. And think of. Card. Masters. So why don't you think of the card boss? Seems like an appropriate juncture in which decide what probably everybody already knows. But it's worth mentioning anyway that Sergio Perez was absent this weekend because he's the first person in the form paddock so far to contract covid nineteen, there were two people in Hungary, but I think part of the advanced set up teams. and. Obviously the first driver to contracted. Elevates the worst case scenario because no one else got it. So in some cases, it was the best case scenario, but it was sort of like at the top of the driver couldn't drive clearly the show went on and unfortunately for the clutch from them would have gone on as expected. Interesting because there are room is first of all that there was going to be a Sebastian. At, this weekend some small rumors. But of course, it would've been somehow improper to do it while Sergio pairs was isolating. A nearby hotel would have seemed to be cruel. He's ice seem to matic by the way the team said. So hopefully he's okay, it's just a matter of returning negative tests doesn't seem like you'd be racing next weekend either according to the local rules in the UK back quarantine time. We'll wait and see exactly what happens. But there is also is per old by Data Lincoln reporting that Sergio Perez trip to Mexico between the last couple of. Of rounds most mother who in WHO's coming out of hospital I? Think it was after an accident, but also he took a detour to chat to old maid collar slim to save agree anymore sponsorship to try hold onto that racing point seat. So suddenly they could be, you might have a real fight on his hands to try and retain that seat. It might not be such a done deal that he's going to be the one to go. Are, you upset markle that potentially we might lose the pink. Full Scindia come racing point a little. Bit Because that that article saying it's going to get rid of the Garish I livery because it doesn't fit the cold Jamie's bomb. 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So close to competitive and to be punted just seems I mean there's no justice in Sport, but this is pretty yeah. But. That will be because I think they'll sit the chain reaction of of musical chairs because then. He's done. Through him say they'll be saved that Alpha, it's weathervane the the the next move is I. Will we have Associated Perez? In the mock applies does hey. Is. The makes potentially are there a saved at Alpha in the state at Haas because surely you would think? After serving the years of of this comfortable draw lineup. That perhaps the drew for Shaikha. The box of neutrons messages in box neutrals, DOT com. We ain't GonNa Bucks each dot Com. Click the Oscar McGinley button. Contact US figure it out five links on that website. Them show you can. You can do it. When we'll get, of course, the formula McGinley in just a moment, we're to miss a in from Jay says, Hi guys, I want to sponsor the show by buying rob? The two? Thousand, twenty, F one guy me interested same. Nice. 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The impact of coronavirus on Hong Kong's pro-democracy movement
"Three thousand six hundred people stuck on a cruise ship in Japan a floating quarantine to stop the spread of the corona virus. Get this weird sensation that except for the crew members that are coming down the hall your the only people on on this huge shift. I'm Marco Werman the mind games of quarantine ahead this hour plus that respiratory virus may have claimed another victim street protests in Hong Kong thousands of rounds of tear gas that didn't scare them away threats from Chinese leader Xi Jinping Nope but the corona virus. It's keeping pro democracy. Demonstrators traders off of Hong Kong's streets and the classic cartoon. Tom and Jerry turns eighty this week. Count among its fans. Iran's supreme leader the stories are more today here on the world. I'm Marco Werman. You're with the world. The Corona Rona virus disease. Now has a name Cova. Nineteen that's a mash up of the words Corona Virus and disease and the year twenty nineteen researchers have been calling for an official name to avoid stigmatizing any group or country like China in Beijing Today. President Xi Jinping made public appearances donning a blue surgical facemask smacks. Let's not shake hands. She said adding that China is a special period president. She described the fight against against the corona virus as a war and told workers at a Beijing hospital. We will be victorious. Meanwhile in Hong Kong fear of the Corona virus is also leading to extreme caution. And that's putting a damper on pro democracy street protests but as the world's Patrick Wind reports activists are trying to keep the movement going uh-huh protesters throwing molotovs cops firing tear gas grenades. This has defined Hong Kong for about the last eight months got so bad that the government said. Hey we can throw you in jail just for wearing a mask in public. We believe that the new law will create a deterrent effect against massed ost violent protesters and riotous. That's Hong Kong leader. Carrie Lam announcing the ban on masks back in October. Now that law hasn't gone away but something curious is happening. The streets are much more quiet and if you do go out. It's now taboo to not wear a mask. If the somebody house who are not wearing masks there will be tension at from from the rest of the crowd because they think that. Oh this is very irresponsible for past not wearing in a mosque in in public. That's Frank Wong a law student. He's with the Hong Kong City University student. Union a group that offers legal support to protesters and the Revolution Revolution. He says is really on pause right now. Because how do you bring out hundreds of thousands of people standing shoulder to shoulder when everyone is scared of getting getting sick until this point the protesters have been relentless thousands of rounds of tear gas. That didn't scare them away. A threats from Chinese leader Xi Jinping to shatter the bones of dissidents nope but the corona virus has finally done with the Chinese government. So far has failed to do. Yeah that's one. Recent public demonstration a small one and they're not talking talking about revolution it's a group of medical workers chanting closed the border to save Hong Kong. That's the border with China. Hong Kong's local government and has closed most border crossings with China. But someone a total blockade fear is increasing especially after a family in Hong Kong. Nine people all got the virus by eating hot pot together so now Hanoch by. That's video from twitter. Dozens of people at a market in Hong Kong scrambling to buy toilet paper. Their room loose sets some of the daily processes. He's might be cut off the supply of it might might be cut off for some of the tissue papers and rice even rise. Frank Wong says that is what everyone is talking about even inside the protest movement but also honestly the protesters are tired. He says the marches and street battles even before the virus fatigue was setting getting in because also the police have been making it harder to protest. More beatings more pepper spray. More arrests so we can see that this is some kind over horror That if you set out in protest you got to best some risk so while everyone is cooped up in their apartments long says protesters are debating online whether the risk is worth it taking over streets and big numbers. Is that getting them closer to their goal which is free elections of local Opel leaders keeping their sense of autonomy. Some say maybe being so noisy and public isn't the way to go anymore. We can already seen some instances senses of underground fighting for example that some officers taxes Where they will be up? That's already happened plus Arson attacks on police stations destroying public property long says once the virus threat is over. Protesters may resort to more covert tactics tactics. So they up turning the movement into the next stage where the mood won't be broadcasted in the air but stay who has underground planning order these targets of attacks for now even though the streets are quiet. The anger is still there and not just among the protesters. The latest poll by Gallup which she came out yesterday shows seventy percent of Hong Kongers have no confidence in their local government for the world. I'm Patrick win. They're you're also dealing with the corona virus in Japan. Some thirty six hundred passengers and crew remain trapped on board the diamond princess docked in Yokohama. At least one hundred thirty six of the ship's passengers have confirmed cases of Corona Virus Americans Matthew Smith and his wife Catherine are among those on board the quarantine cruise ship. Smith told told me the experience has been surreal from his cabin. He has no sight lines of the emergency vehicles or people in Hazmat suits patrolling the port. Our our view is of the com- harbor and then off the right side of our balcony. There's very pretty suspension bridge that goes across part of the harbor behind bad is Mount Fuji so the view is not gotten old yet but the only people we see are that crew members who deliver the food food and bringing fresh towels and such and we get very little sense of any activities going on except occasional boats that will swing nearby and the people hold up signs or way on the other side of the ships on the pier. Side they are kind of witnessing the whole transactional things that are going on. All the the diagnosed people being taken off in ambulances. That's fascinating kind of like your state of mind. Regarding this corona virus liars depends on what side of the ship. You're on what kind of room you have. So if you're on the other side of the ship and seeing those actual ambulances on the pier and taking passengers away hospitals hospitals. I imagine that might change. How you view the whole situation? Yeah you have three eighty six hundred people who are having vastly different experiences of quarantine gene the only onerous thing. I guess we're sharing. Is that you get this weird sensation that except for the crew members that are coming down the hall and except for the voices of the people. You hear another balconies because we don't lean out and try and make contact with people were trying to maintain the isolation for the good of a quarantine. You almost get the sense of your the only people on this huge ship. You know there are other people there but you you have no direct experience of them. So it's it's really surreal. What about just your own concerns on the boat? How safe you feel? We've been hearing about the possibilities of the virus might spread through the air duct system. I mean do you have concerns about the quality of the air on the ship. Captain reported to us today. EVERY CABIN MS Fed with fresh air and not with recirculated air. We have always been confident that the CORINTHIAN conventions they're maintaining here are sufficient station to prevent infection following the quarantine period. And it'll it'll be interesting to see whether there are any significant additional cases discovered the next week because everyone essentially everyone that ban Identified to date can easily be correlated with people who contracted the virus before the quarantine and their symptoms didn't manifest until after the warranty five days from now when we're approaching the two weeks seeks if large numbers still show up then you're going to get an issue of you know how effective was the quarantine. I am confident that that's not gonNA happen offense but at the same time on like you know all of this is beyond our control. So whatever happens we'll just deal with what about food. How you getting Fed and do do you trust where your food is? Coming from. The crew members bring the food three times a day. We get a breakfast lunch and dinner. All the crew members that are moving about outside. The Adore are masked gloved and wearing protective clothing. And we're confident that that's not any method by which the virus is going to be spread. So how do you get your news about UPDATES on the health situation are there announcements through the ship's P. A.. Are you getting any localized news about the virus. Use At least two three times a day the captain will come on and provide us with the important updates like he did the other night that there are sixty five new cases Another announcement he made today was about that very air system. He wanted to assure all the passengers that all of the cabins are ventilated selected. With fresh air there is no recirculated air. The passengers who go out on deck I think are are talking with each other. Although they're supposed to spend stand six six feet apart when they do so and then it seems to be kind of a little gossip network goes on side of the balconies so they stand out there and chat and and we hear people outside right beyond our balcony. I can hear people chatting it. Sounds like you two are just keep your eyes on the prize. If you stay in your room contact is avoided. You should be okay. Is Dan how you're approaching this. Yeah absolutely and when there was talk about well you know. Why can't the American government come over and get us take us out out and let us serve quarantine in the US? Where like you know like knock it off? Okay stay in her cabin. Follow the rules of the quarantine and the Japanese government officials are going and let you go. And that's what we're counting on. And so that's what we're trying to just stay. The Course Matt Smith All our best wishes to you and to Catherine and the rest the passengers and the crew of the diamond princess. Keep the positive attitude. It sounds like it's helping you. Thank you so much recognize that it is the theme from the Tom and Jerry. Cartoon it debuted eighty years ago this week and grew into an international sensation. The world's Bianca Hillier looks back in the show's history in the nineteen thirties. American Media Company. MGM was a bit desperate. They needed an answer to Walt Disney's Mickey Mouse cartoon and they found it in the tried and true plot of cat versus mouse. Creators leaders bill. Hanna and Joe Barbera released the debut short in one thousand nine hundred forty. Originally the dynamic cat and mouse duo were named Jasper and jinx but soon changed changed to Tom and Jerry. Tom's the cat who chases adorable jerry with fantasies of eating him. The scenes most always end with mouse. Jerry outsmarting smarting the cat and inflicting heavy physical damage co-creator Joe Barbera said the now iconic lack of dialogue was a sign of the Times. James Silent Movies were big. Lou was no discussion about them. Not Speaking I mean I saw a big fan of chaplain. Everything I saw him more than anything was no voice. I found out that with the cat and mouse. You didn't have to speak. He was right. Tom and Jerry became one of the world's best known double ax but despite the commercial success us. MGM faced budget cuts creators. Hanna and Barbera were sent packing while. MGM source the cartoon in Nineteen Sixty one to a studio in Prague Ugh and brought in American animator gene Deitz to lead production dykes told Czech radio. The transition wasn't easy because of the Iron Curtain. The animators maters in the studio had never ever even seen a Tom. And Jerry cartoon was way out of their culture also said the names of Czech crew members were Americanized tonight on the show credits to stop western viewers associating the show with communism in the nineteen seventies. The cartoon came under a new spotlight for its depictions of race. Ace early episodes include character named mammy two shoes a black housemaid within exaggerated southern accent. And when I say Jack in twenty fourteen Amazon Prime added a racial prejudice warning to the series in two thousand sixteen the head of Egypt's State Information Nations Service Ambassador Salah Abdel Saddik attributed the rise of violence and extremism across the Middle East to the cartoon cat and mouse the dorm and Jerry portrays violence in a funny manner and says the message that yes I can hear them and I can blow him up with explosives. It becomes set in the viewer's mind that this this is natural and the Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei has previously compared to relations with the US. To Jerry. Ordway does Senator Tomo Jerry. Famous cat in the Tom and Jerry stories to the United States failed each time but in living rooms from Japan to Pakistan to the US us the series remains extremely popular eighty years later viewers still want more for the world. I'm being earlier. Amazing you're listening to the world. I'm Marco Werman you're with the world the. US thought it got away relatively unscathed unscathed by Iranian missiles last month but the number of US service personnel injured by air strikes in Iraq has gone up again. The Defense Department says that one hundred hundred nine troops have now been treated for mild traumatic brain injuries. Or TB is that is fifty percent more than the number previously reported. The Department of Defense takes seriously this Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman. We've seen a persisted in dedicated effort by our medical professionals on the ground in Iraq Kuwait and Germany to diagnose intrigued any and all members who needed assistance. Huish all these members. Well we're dedicated to ensuring that they have the support and treatment. They need for full recovery but president trump has downplayed the recent brain injuries. I heard that they had headaches and a couple of other things but I would say and I can report. It is not very serious. The Cape Kaplan. What is your reaction to that? So aside from those comments being ill informed and appropriate and insensitive the trump administration slashed research funding for some federal agencies by over one hundred seventy percents recently and studying treating blast related TB. I in the military requires money studying brains of servicemembers. The traumatic brain injury who've committed suicide takes money and those were hurt. You have your own own connection to traumatic brain injuries you have PhD and resilience and suicide among special forces in has spent your career in brain and trauma care as a nurse and now as a researcher when and why did did you choose to specialize in brain injuries. So I worked as a A trauma nurse specialist for the US Army as a civilian in the early two thousands and I notice dives soldiers coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan had really obvious post concussive symptoms and most of them are actually all of them reported being being exposed to a blast often repetitively on their deployment and they were having significant personality. Changes Headaches marital issue who's decision making issues a lot of issues with executive function. And then when I started asters degree I decided to study traumatic brain injury in combat and then with life imitating art. My husband Michael Who was deployed Iraq had an IEP? G actually an ESP explode explode under the seat of his vehicle and so when he returned home. I started to see the same symptoms of traumatic brain injury in him that I'd seen in my a patients and in the research that I was doing graduate school and so in continuing my education entering academia becoming a professor a neuroscientist I I worked a special operations and began to study their suicides because those tripled in the last couple of years and and the intersection between traumatic brain injury and suicide is very well established and right as I was publishing my initial findings I'm Michael committed suicide in June of two thousand nineteen. I'm very sorry to hear that story In you connect his taking his life with his T- I I think it's impossible not to as a as a scientist I would say. Now you know that that the total and with with without any causal data or longitudinal study. You know that's the scientist in me saying I can't maketheconnection connection but as a clinician and as a spouse and as somebody who's worked in this field for over a decade I think that the connection is is concrete longcrete Because he came back after his blast injury and he was really never the same and the CDC actually just put out that one of the biggest risk factors for traumatic brain. Injury is suicide and sometimes it can lie dormant and Take take a decade or longer. But she is suicide are very very connected also steeped in the science of TV is Kate. What exactly glee is a traumatic brain injury? What of the brain? What causes it? So it's very different in military populations because in sports or in motor vehicle accidents. That's deep the force against a had is solitary in the military blast. Injuries are created by an air pressure. Wave that is really it really significant. And because the brain is sitting inside your skull and blast pressure waves travel through it and actually fears I connections within the brain very microscopic levels and this has been noted in brain tissue postmortem by Dr Dan Pearl at the uniform services as university in Bethesda so he has a brain repository. He has the brains of soldiers from multiple conflicts. He also has Michael's brain. I sent it thereafter after Michael died and they have found astro scarring patterns in soldiers who have had last exposure and then the soldiers our servicemembers committed suicide after wouldn't go scoring patterns on the brain show up on an MRI not necessarily There are some cynical guidelines that recommends cat scans not necessarily is but cat scans to look for Released specific physical injuries after traumatic brain injury but with breath quote unquote mild track brain injury. It's unlikely or very weird to see something Really glaring from a blast injury jury. Did Michael Acknowledge that he likely had a physical a physical manifestation that was TB. I am in what about most soldiers. Are they willing to acknowledge it. I I think it's tough for a lot of soldiers I think it's really difficult to acknowledge allege that something wrong might be happening or that. An injury that you walked away from his acting is the fact to the degree that these injuries can in Michaels instance You know he had a wife who had studied this extensively and so he knew when he acknowledged that his brain was injured however however He worked in classified environments and he had a security clearance and he would not Would not acknowledge it officially initially because he could lose his career and even though the Department of Defense Service members that you know they won't lose any security clearances for seeking mental health treatment. I know from my colleagues in the military in my own experience that it's real fear so to my knowledge college I don't think Michael really ever got comprehensive treatment for it and that was a main reason why we divorced in two thousand thirteen kate. I know you and Michael Fro had children. May I ask how they're doing. They're pretty tough girls They're doing really well. And you know we've been very very open. And honest about Mike's Injuries and and how they've processed it in processes death. We haven't hidden anything from them or tried to sticker coat. Anything you know because this is not an issue that you can sweep under the carpet or pretend that there weren't issues or Injuries that preceded it so we handle it with with a lot of humor and honesty and tears at times in you know. Sometimes they're angry sometimes they don't understand and that's that's normal and I and everything that they're feeling normal on. There's no right way to steal right way to process. It's just something you have to walk through and there's no there's really now getting over it it's always gonna be. There is just going to change and morph overtime. Kate Kaplan is a professor and neuroscientists at the University of Windsor Ontario. Thank thank you very much for speaking with us. Thanks so much gray day. Professor campaigns late husband's sergeant. Michael Freddie will be laid to rest in Arlington National Cemetery next next month. You're with the world learning a the second languages tough. So how come some people can pick up seven eight nine languages no problem. We look inside the brains of polyglot. S- we know which parts of your brain are doing work nick during these different tasks that we're going to give you and today we're doing language tests science behind the gift of multi-lingual Gab. That's coming up here on the world. I'm Marco Werman you're with the world we're a CO production of the BBC World Service W. H. Boston NPR EX president. President Rodrigo Duterte of the Philippines basically flipped the bird at the United States today. Manila gave notice that. It's terminating the Visiting Forces Agreement which allows for large-scale joint military exercises between the two countries it also provides a security blanket for the United States effectively keeping the Philippines out of China's orbit but geopolitics may not be the main reason for details to ditch the agreement. It seems to be personal. A reaction to criticism of his controversial anti-drug policy. So if you Tom Cruise reports rap ler a news website in the Philippines. She joins us from Manila. What is the government saying? The reason is for ending the Visiting Forces Agreement with the United States severe. So if you go by President Rigor that they're at this words. He said that he wanted to scrap the Visiting Forces Agreement with the United States over over the cancellation of a senator. Senator Ron Dennis Ross has USB and now one thing to note about the is widely known as the architect of this discount Illegal drug campaign his drug war that was really one big reason. Why did they want it to end if a another being sanctions is that the US lawmakers have pushed for against for the bean officials involved in the drug war specifically extra-judicial killings and also those who were involved involved in the detention of opposition? Senator and Lima and duterte actually come out and say state all these reasons for why he wanted to cancel the the agreement. Yes he said this on the record public speeches before different crowds. I mean it's not the new threat that he's made but he made that threat early. Two thousand succeed in the. US didn't renew aid package for the Philippines. But I think one thing that's different that makes this latest threat. Different is that that doc was more personal. His former police chief was started. It's always a touchy issue for him. When you talk about the drug war and everything so you mentioned in the senator who's in detention lately dilemma tells us about her? She is a vocal critic of the president and his drug warr her when she was the secretary of Justice before she became a senator she had launched investigations against their their when he was the mayor of Davos boasted the because of suppose said that squads that he had basically power over of course you need speaking out against drug war when she was already in the Senate and President They had already won. And so that earned heard the ire of the president the government with trump up charges against her and arrested her and so she's been jail now for about three years has united say says Washington a made any attempts to intervene on her behalf. Or say okay anything about her. Well we can go by what. US lawmakers have done. I think the most concrete would be how the US Senate adopted a resolution invoking the Global Magnitsky Act which is as we know is the US law that imposes travel restrictions and financial sanctions against people. Who are guilty of grave? Human rights abuses abusive so at least in the context of the Philippines and the context of Dilemma Skis. They invoked that for any Philippine official. who was involved in what they called was her unlawful detention? I want to ask you one more thing before we let you go. Sophia this week. The Philippine government asked the country's supreme court to shut down the country's largest television network for alleged constitutional additional violations. What is that all about? So the office of the general asked the Supreme Court to void the franchise of the largest broadcast network in the Philippines. ABS Sub end and it's largely seen of course is an attack on brest freedom. What happened is the solicitor general basically question? ABC Franchise accusing at the foreign ownership saying that it wasn't using its franchise according to the terms that it was granted to them is a network generally critical of detail. It's been perceived. The the goal of the day and his anti illegal drugs got then so yeah it is perceived to be critical. That Soviet. Tom Cruz Manila where she reports for the online news site. Rambler Sophia. Thanks very much thank you thank you for having me for most of US learning a second or third language takes a a ton of time and a ton of effort. I speak French but not because of French classes. I only became fluent after being immersed in France and french-speaking Africa for years. Patrick Cox this is here. He's a Co host of the podcast. Subtitle Saint for you Patrick. Yeah I kinda mustard Danish after I lived there but I struggle with most other languages that I've attempted wanted. I'm certainly no polyglot. That's for sure but I'm here to tell you about polyglot and an ongoing study of polyglot brain so polyglot S- those are people who who speak multiple languages like three or four or five languages. Yeah and here's how little we know about them until quite recently it was believed that polyglot tended to be take your pick doc male or gay or left-handed. None of which is true. We may know more soon though. And here's why this is our magnet. This is our scanner so we can actually go we're a windowless lap but MIT lab manager. Hope Kane is prepping a woman who's about to slide into a brain scanner an F.. MRI machine for series of tests. And we have like a time course of where blood is flowing in your brain and we know which parts of your brain are doing work during during these different tasks that we're going to give you and today we're doing language tests since you're a polyglot and now so many languages refers the researchers are away. This is the first US modern day study at the polyglot brain. Suzanne Risky is the studies twenty third participant a speak Russian English French Spanish. Italian Portuguese spas Nian Serbo-croatian and also dino. which is the Spanish spoken by? The Jews were expelled from Spain in the fifteenth century. Just the nine languages plus a bit of Arabic Hebrew Hungarian and Greek and she doesn't study these languages in much of a formal way in a classroom repeating words doing homework which sets her apart from other politics. You give him a grammar book and they just absorb it Movement yes more men. That really liked the grammar books. I WOULD BE BORED OUT OF MY MIND IF I had something like that. This is part of the problem in studying polyglot. S- is the brain functioning the same way for grammar book learners as it is for someone like Susanna who loans through conversation than singing songs? Scientists have been trying to figure that out for nearly a century by went to look at the brain of Amiel crabs. who was a German diplomat? Who died in nineteen thirty? This is Michael Iran. Who's written a book about politics? And his brain. After he died I became part of a expert. Genius brain collection in Dusseldorf Krebs. His brain was sliced into pieces and preserved. For Good. Reason isn't in his lifetime he acquired a proficiency in something like sixty eight different languages. Recently German neuroscientists took another look at Krebs his brain and found some anomalies dense cell structures in some unexpected regions. But the research as couldn't be certain about the time line was there something about Krebs. His brain that preceded his exposure to any of those languages that would have allowed him to build those structures faster. You're more durably than other people's brains would have been in other words was Emil Krebs born with a predisposition for multi-lingualism. Well did that develop over time. A. Rod says the scientists couldn't tell you can't surmise that from the slices of brain that I was looking at which is why the MIT study of living polyglot. Brains offers more products polyglot Susannah. Zarai ski is now now inside the F.. MRI machine she has ear buds on and she's being bombarded with voices sometimes. She is familiar language day. An ancient God awed came to a young virgin named Mary. Sometimes it's something less familiar it holds. It goes self it all and sometimes it's gibberish it all the while technicians monitoring blood flow. which tells them which regions of the brain most active at any given moment results? So I have been a bit counterintuitive as lab director Federico. The Control Group here a monolingual people who speak only one language for them the regions of the brain that are associated with language appear quite lodge on activation maps but for the polyglot. It looked like it was way way kind of on the end of a continuum where these regions regions were small in other words. The polyglot were less not more engaged. That seemed to be a real finding which then we started interpreting because it seemed like a real thing and the most kind of obvious. Plausible interpretation is in terms of efficiency. But this isn't a longitudinal study so researches con fully onto the question of whether polyglot were born with this efficiency will develop it over time is not a genetic study either so we don't know if any of those traits are hereditary predatory however lab director Federico suspects the Polyglot Afa from brilliant superhumans. Just people who blend talent with extreme aimed at occasion. Most brains can find ways to get good at things. Hard work will often get you a long way like I think Brilliance Johnson often over rated which comes as a relief to the rest of us. It's nice to know that learning languages doesn't necessarily require you to possess a superpower power for the world. I'm Patrick Cox. The Department of Justice is turning up the heat on local and state governments offers sanctuary to undocumented immigrants attorney general William Bar has announced new lawsuits against California New Jersey and King County in Washington State. All three places have sought to offer some protection action from federal immigration authorities and possible. Deportation Dow Constantine is executive for King County. What county actually do that upset? The trump administration. Well thanks for having me. We run an international airport known as Boeing field and We came to find out that tens of thousands of immigrants into this country. We're being around up and deported through that airport on charter flights by the Federal Government I issued an executive order stating that we would do anything. Within our power to stop that practice it's inconsistent with county law and with the values of our region and we will not be a party to this administration's political agenda in humanity to refugees and immigrants. We've been involved in a informal process with the FAA A to sort through legal issues and determine the authorities at the county in the federal government. Over Can County International Airport Boeing field. Suddenly the trump administration decided to grab some headlines by circumventing that orderly process in filing lawsuit. Well as you probably only heard the federal government says that King County is interfering with its ability to enforce immigration law. What how do you respond to that we in King County? As a matter are of county policy made a choice not the silicate this administration's campaign against refugees and immigrants we will follow the law and we will Invest our time and effort in helping people have their rights vindicated in court. Interestingly ice has sent the planes from Your Airport Boeing field to Yuccas airport instead. It's about one hundred fifty miles away. So while you and King County might be complicating things. You're you're not really stopping the deportations. Well clearly that's going to be a continuing problem. We as local government need to act consistent with our regional values. Yakima is home to many many immigrants Grants from Mexico and Latin America. Who are feeling very threatened right now and that community is having to do some soul-searching about the role they're playing in this trump policy? How much authority does King County have over? Its cooperation with us. We have a good deal of authority. Our law is very clear that we will not cooperate with federal authorities on deportation unless we are presented with a ballad court order When our judges say that someone is free to leave the jail because they have served their time? They're free to leave. And we will not respond to the order of a federal bureaucrat. Of We will oh comply with the order of a judge so if they bring us a warrant We will treat it as any other one. Are you confident that you'll win this case. We're very confident win. Win this case the executive order issued makes it clear that we will operate within the bounds of the law that we will not take actions that that will in any way harm immigrants refugees or facilitate cruel policy by the trump administration. What we need is were trump and art art equipped focusing on punishing local jurisdiction and trying to intimidate US and others in instead to turn their attention to comprehensive immigration reform in in Congress Dow Constantine the executive for King County Washington State? Thank you for your time. Thanks so much. It's an odd and sad coincidence and said today on the thirtieth anniversary of Nelson Mandela's released from prison one of the voices that gave hope to black South Africans during part leaves us by bye. Bye Joseph Shabalala was born in nineteen forty one of the town of Ladysmith South Africa founder of the legendary group. You're hearing Acapella Pella. Singers Ladysmith Black Mambazo. We learned that Chabala died today when he created Ladysmith Black Mambas one thousand nine hundred sixty. The music was not overtly anti-apartheid anti-apartheid. The Band was more messengers of black South African culture. Shabalala told me in two thousand and four him like music confused. Some black South African activist's activists in fact I was doubting them that they might understand. What are we talking talking about? Eventually they did get it by promoting Culture Shabalala and Ladysmith quietly infiltrated black activism. In South Africa they recorded with. And we're recognized by none other than Paul Simon which only led to grammy's for the band in their own right. Shabalala told me that his whole life. He just wanted a home for for his Zulu culture after par tate. He said he saw it happening. Whenever he saw the reaction of South African kids hearing the music of Ladysmith Black Mambazo for the first time woo? Where's this music? This nothing like this at school. Where are these people is very good and the old the people that know this man has talent? He's talking about something he he has a talent he born with eat. Take these are the people that we need he. Joseph Chabala was seventy eight. Just Ed Straw. It'd be on Ans- US as being a you long for the political geeks among us. The long wait is finally over New Hampshire voters are heading to the polls or three to the one that was just past midnight in the tiny town of Hart's location population forty-one for days days Democratic presidential candidates have been frantically crisscrossing the state appealing for last minute votes. This is our moment in history and and here. We are at decision time and it is so critically important that we get this right. And not only. Is the whole country looking at New Hampshire. But the world is was looking at the Hampshire. What is the Hampshire GonNa do Front runners their Elizabeth Warren people to judge and Bernie Sanders as the dams are delivering their message in the granite state? Republicans are going nationwide with their appeals to win over new voters to join the grand old party namely Latinos. The rules days of contrast joins me now. She's the editor editor of our every thirty seconds project which tracks a generation of young Latinos. Every thirty seconds in America another Latino becomes eligible to vote so daisy there seems to be a general assumption. That Latinos vote democratic. Is that true. The short answer is yes but it's also important to understand that just looking at the majority does not give us the entire picture in the midterm elections in two thousand eighteen. Yes the majority of Latino voters went for a Democratic candidate in these congressional congressional races at about seventy percent while about thirty percent back the Republican candidate and over the years the number of Latinos have voted for the Republican Party has stayed pretty consistent and those numbers of stayed consistent even when we're hearing strong anti-immigrant rhetoric from the president and the circles. Yeah I mean and that's another thing about the myth myth of the Latino electorate that immigration is a deal breaker for all I mean it's not completely true. Specially for many Republicans while Latinos do have ties is to Latin American countries like Venezuela. May He Coa or they have unique circumstances that brought them here to the United States. Things like how much money a family has ask for example or how many generations family has been in the US could help shape does perspectives. So for example we've heard a lot from trump recently about Venezuela Ella. Here's trump at the state of the Union address. Last week the United States is leading a fifty nine nation diplomatic coalition against the socialist the dictator of Venezuela Nicholas Maduro trump is using events in those countries to appeal to conservative Latinos. Right here in the United States and so Florida for example has a large Venezuelan population trump sees that and he also knows that this is the key state for him to win reelection. Listen so in short Immigration could be part of the issues of Republican Latinos are caring about but it isn't necessarily a priority for them Emmett's more about the economy jobs healthcare and maybe even border security and if you've been voting for a Republican candidate chances are that you've been loyal to the party for many generations so all those things economy jobs healthcare is the president Messing those things to Latinos. Well going back to the state of the Union address again. Trump talked about the economy. And how it's going. For Latino unemployment rate for African Americans Hispanic Americans Orange and Asian Americans has reached the lowest levels in history so I spoke to his solo. You're oh he's with the Republican National Hispanic Assembly of Illinois. It's a political organization. Solorio says under stands. There needs to be more outreach and support not just just for the African American community but for women and Latinos. It's clear that a lot of the policies he's been advocating for you know specifically clues like school choice and lowering taxes and increasing jobs. has really resonated with the Hispanic community. And I think that we're GONNA see a bump and those numbers come November daisy. What about young? Latino voters specifically the group that were Focusing on with every thirty seconds so nodio and other organizations organizations that work with the Republican Party say they are going out into communities they are going to college campuses and talking to Latino high school students to get them more involved with the party lean very similar to what the Democratic Party is also doing so no deal says outreach is even happening in blue states like Illinois where the Democratic stronghold is is there you do find many pockets of Hispanic population throughout the state. And we've been able to go to various community event and and we've been able to just interact with the community and say you know this is who we are. This is what the Republican Party stands for and just as what we're fighting for so both parties are definitely out there trying to appeal to this young demographic and as we've been hearing their vote is up for grabs days controversy interesting editor of the world's every thirty seconds project. Thank you very much. Thank you Marco. Here's some advice for any candidate hoping for support from New Latino voters hitting and the age of eighteen book this guy for your next rally skin. me yeah this is Cuco shows typically sell out. When we spoke recently he just played a Gig in Texas? My last this concert was pasta and that was like two thousand people. It was cool like seeing these people come out to shy mass support your love. Of course it was cool five six years ago living. The dream wasn't even a dream for Cuco he was born. Omar Bongo's in southern California parents are from Mexico. He started making beats as a teenager. I play music and I thought it'd be cool to like mountains. It was pretty rudimentary stuff at first the equipment at the studio in my room it it was. It was just like a computer like a cheap ramp afar monitored but suddenly everyone was dancing to those tunes the jewel Outta. Don't they look good old teenage angst. Even if CUCO songs are not political his fans ends. Know what's going on that. We have events that are specifically catered to in undocumented folks and how they could get help you know. Have the politics of this country changed you as as an artist in the last three years. Yeah I mean definitely makes me want to be more active. Be More aware ambery words of certain issues that have their happening in the states is so weird like it seems kind of unreal cuckoo. Takes us out on the down tempo. Today from Manana Bill Harris Studio at W. H. in Boston. I'm Marco Werman. We'll see tomorrow but I guess you now. The world is a CO production of W. H. Boston the BBC World Service and P. Era.
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"Volterra son of Sante to you wanna me. Thank you. Danny O'Dwyer sitting across from me in this actual room. I know it's a bribes acnes here. What? That, of course, is cheers in French. Cheers and welcome to shift f wanna podcast best PD race cars. We were down here in honor of video games. Threes on the electric entertainment expo. We all work slash worked in video games in some capacity. Do we still working video games through? I don't know. I don't know. We're doing a Formula one podcast probably not. Video games Jason. Yeah. Yeah. Or supplementary. But we're, we're double double cheers in French because of the Keidanren pre which just happened, the grand prix, which is coming. And because the French beers, we just drank, you guys my God. I can't believe it happened. Yeah. All the way from the coaches your, I know the blue coat in into our modes. Yeah. We drank Daniela car does. Shui. I'm Broza we did not do shui. We did with the blue coast and still do it. That's for the next patriots here. Sorry. Yes, we shot a video of drinking blue coast. Beer, four flavors, four flavors and, and especial- Herranz fifth mystery flavor to can it's an energy drink from some sort of bicycle company. I think is what we figured that will go up for patrons. If you wanna see our first impressions. But, like, first of all, thank you for everyone. For following this great odyssey with us ever since we first discovered this strange beer label for number Cardo Jenson Button. David Coulthard's wife a few other people, a bunch of sporting people, Noah wyle, of course, of course, are op -solutely who somehow involved with a hero falling skies. Wow. And thank you. Also, to blue coast to actually went back and forth with me over Email. For weeks trying to get it to us. And I think we can conclusively say pretty good. It's good. It's good for them. We're good. We all have different favorites, but yeah, can't believe that's all I'm ever going to have. I know I mean jus got a fridge full of the fridge. All right. Well, then, but that was our only can of research thing to, to, to Kevin from Indianapolis. Yes. Appreciate it. You know what that tastes like an energy drinking this? Yeah, it tastes. Imagine what you think might taste like and you're pretty close. Well, it's the thing is, I think you're being misled by the fact that it has the terror war of classic energy drinks being from Austria. Okay. So what I think y'all recognizing here is that what you say is a generic flavor, I would say is just the iconic flavor of the land from where it was route. So you're saying say brewed? You're, you're basically saying is that Iran about ways, it's kind of like a knockoff red bull. A champagne from region in France. So I would say, just recalls mountain springs in the way, red bull. And, you know, crisp, fresh alpine breezes, rain showers taurine, rain showers grassy meadows sugar. Oh, lots of sugar and secrets still buried never to be known. Rob gave us some really incredible notes for, for the rich energy, and for the as well. So patrons can look forward to that video this month, along with the driver survive episode that we recorded a little while. That's going up cool this month as well. That'll be the first three episodes of the Netflix series are review. They're awesome. Yeah. They'll be a new poll up once three is done and dusted. The next episode of f one game history. Yeah. So if you want to sign up to that it's over. Over. Patriot accomplish slash shift F one. Also, we updated our patron goal. Oh, we have if we get to one thousand are, what was the year one to fifty. Yeah. It was something to fifty way lower than we got the beer everyone knows five hundred a five hundred five hundred. Okay. We got the beer one thousand we are racing together on the same track in actual cars. Okay. That's okay. That's awesome. Yeah. It also sounds expensive. So that's why it's thousand. Right. Okay. But also just multiple anything you think it'll cost by three because that's what happened with the beer. So, yeah. Patriot on that comes. Yeah. Check it out. That'd be that'd be cool for sure. Tiga race. I think we should get races a lot, too. There's a lot here. Yeah. There was a lot to talk about before certain incident happened. But without incident we talk about this all my lawn just going to say. So during three I didn't watch the race live. We heard while the race was how worrying you don't check your Twitter. Like people are like, hey, thank you shift up on listeners, like for not spoiling it in anyone's mentions. Actually very cool. People were talking around what happened. But nobody straight up said like can you believe acts, which is awesome? That's, that's very rare. But I knew something happened, and eventually, like my parents wanted to talk. Yeah, because I grew up watching with them. So when we talked. As we discussed the race. My parents got to fight. Oh, they were on opposite sides of the issue, and in my family arguments, escalate, and so, again, as a sort of. Clash of EUPOL points. A difference in perspective turned into a referendum referendum on. What do you think is in the sole of Sebastian battle turns out my mother has very strong beliefs about that? And my dad thinks that what is more important is the state of Formula one Seoul. Okay. Wow. A better foreshadowing. There can be, yeah. Practice God, who can even remember I had to go back and watch everything. If he was like forever. Go that Hamilton, hit the Wall Street brackets two. Which the wall, not. Okay. Wall. Although somebody did hit the weed it was, it was not a virgin wall this week. No, the struck for practice three stroll got a big cloud at the back of his car has engineer said it was a hydraulic leak, which actually bears a little bit. That in the Hamilton, hitting the wall kind of it leads to they didn't show this too much in the broadcast, but like Mercedes was apparently feverishly fixing Hamilton's car because they discovered a hydraulic leak that the morning of the race. Right. So they were they soon as they got out of park may where you're not allowed to work on the car. They were like trying to find the hydraulic leak, and he even as he lined up. He was having some weird stuff going on his brake pedal wasn't working writer, basically said we weren't sure that he was even start the race. Yeah. Does this. I don't want to foreshadow too much. But does this comeback into the narrative and park firm after the race? I don't think I saw something about during scrutineering that there was one part of the guarantee was the same part. Yes, actually. Yes, the hydraulic. I think Toby Gruner, who's from auto Moto sporting what country is that I can't say okay, but he was saying that apparently Mercedes switched apart Ford to fix this hydraulic leak, which I don't think you're allowed to do. Yeah. But the FAA couldn't determine that it was functioning different, right? So they escaped the penalty. Yeah, that's, that's what Toby. Anyway, qualifying Reichen chocolate was beat by his teammate until Neo Nazi and knocked out in q one, which I think, is the first time this has happened this year that have showing. And both racing points. Go out and key one, which is kind of a bummer. Q two. Rebel is splitting their strategies for staff and goes out on medium tires to try to because as we know the tires, you, you get to Q three on are the ones you start the race with so for stabbing Concetta fast time on the medium tires here. Get to Q three you can start on the medium tires of preferential strategy, and it's something they're always doing, like modus operandi at the moment, right? Is to try and smart. People are gonna pace people. Let's try and it's Martin. Yeah. So he tries on the medium tires doesn't set a super fast lab says to come back in which on the soft and do another lap as he's doing that. Magnuson. It's all right. While champions, I know he was pushing hard and not just that. So he was desperately trying to like, in a way he succeeded in safeguarding his position because he was in P ten and this is the alternative. Michael Schumacher and Monico. Yeah, just fuck up real bad. But behind him. So it really screwed ver- stopping. But also behind Magnusson grocery, John was a real real flyer. Secondly member last week was to know Monaco it was for stopping on his way on his on his random. He got messed time. So here's radio. John, like I believe it was just a stream of cursing. Well, it was he Kevin crashes in growth right behind him. Kev. Amazing. He was like, right behind him. They. They. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. It isn't easy. Mistake to make there's a reason that's have made it. Yeah. Yes. Exactly. Like if you are going for it on the edge, and carrying all the speed down the street, and you need to be carrying a carefully that's going to happen on the other hand, it is yet another moment that Kevin Magnusson fails to endear himself to people. Yeah. We'll continue into the rate, correct? John not Verstappen who is prevented from setting that fast lap and gets knocked out thusly I wanna. I wanna might be technically crush on say as well. Did he technically crash into the wall of champions, because he's because he hit it, and that's what through them off? But he plowed into that inside counts. Yeah. Champion caused the crash. Okay. Like if you bounce off the wall of champions and finish against the other wall that's still a wall of champions incident, the what matters is, whether you made your Mark on a streak of like torn. Actually pointing out the magazine did win a championship in and other categories. It does do posture Maldonado wanna fucking hot dog eating got this life. I wanna say also Brundle commenting that looked like the reason the accident became so dramatic was that he was lighting up the tires as he was sowing across the trials. He was like losing control of the car, but he just stayed on it through the accent. So which would explain why the just spun around and hit like an ad same grow. John did in Spain. When he lost this he lit up the tires while everyone's way magazine. Yes. Magnusson had use the spare chassis that hospital with anxiety gearbox. He'll start from the pit lane. Car, spare car, but we got a Q three. Speaking of spins BOTAS, spins and I don't know how hitting that beautiful, but it's is really close teach this one and finish driving school rally move. Sure, he locked from breaks to stop. Apparently Brundle was saying on the, the commentary, you locked from bakes to, to reduce spam base. Just keep it in line at this one of the tightest parts parts track. No. So it's incredibly do he doesn't do so hot in Q three six place at the end of the day. Ricardo though, fourth place, right ahead of not only BOTAS. But a red bull of peer ghastly, the take part and key three but I'm poll one citizen federal every body Forza. Yeah. So I mean the word has been that Ferrari's power unit has been the best on the track. Like, just if f one we're just about straight-line speed Ferrari would be having a better season. It does surprise me that, that makes such difference like this is a fast track. Like this is one of the fastest on the circuit. The sector, three run down the down the dogleg straight, and is an extremely fast, part of the F one calendar. And so that straight line speed advantage is going to be huge here. I am surprised. We didn't see that advantage play a larger role in China decisive, so. I am wondering to what degree did for e bring a different different setup to this race versus. We hear that, right? Yeah. Do you think any of our hope to some of that environmental audio came through of what sounds like a siren going by, and then cacophony of dogs trying to impersonate this, this people at their windows downstairs like outside? Dogs. Lot of little yappy dogs. But I'm wondering to what degree did for our bring a better package to this race versus for whatever reason the aero elements that have been causing them problems throughout this year, just didn't weigh on them the way, they might at say, Shanghai, right? That's, that's the thing I wonder about this represent a new lease on life for the twenty nine thousand nine Ferrari. Or is this just a case, where for whatever reason their what their car is good at and wanted his bad? At ended up giving them a really good good package for this specific race going into this race. They were basically, like, we, we are out of ideas that could have been sandbagging probably, I don't know. Yeah. The only like the major difference between Shanghai and Montreal. It's just the amount of high speed corners that are in China against a lot of tough breaking zones here. So whether or not that played a part. It's a noble. We'll know another couple races down the road, where that book for our dwell, though, Ferrari on pole Hamilton, second. Claire third Ricardo ghastly, though, toss in behind him in seven places, hokum Berg Norris Verstappen who moves up some spots after signs gets a three place group penalty for impeding I didn't see who he impeded, but he had qualified. In eighth. Shame knocked down. Yeah, but Norris takes eighth and then Verstappen in rounds out the top ten then we have signs juvenile Z album, grow. John Perez in fifteenth than Reichen. Stroll Russell bits and Magnuson starting from the piss twelve not about showing for Nazi. Yeah. Nicely done. Okay. Do you want to take us through the start Danny? Sure. I mean you know. Beat the same drum every week who were looking as we're going into the first couple of times. And I feel like this, this little, I don't know. Three turn Milan's. You got at the end of that small star finished race is we've seen so many incidents there during the race starts races foreshore like it's an atrocious, like crunch spot. And I was a little bit surprised that everyone got through relatively clean, everyone got a good star shuttle vessels in your in a bad spot. If you if you got spend on that, because he's on the site and Hamilton would be on the inside track believe, in second place, thinking feds on the outside on the right side. I believe. As it up. All three of the front three get a good start everyone sort of parades, the way around this, first couple of corners to contact saw was believable, Nour's lost a bit of his front wing. It's album. Yes. It's Jalen that see. Yeah, he gets squeezed by presence human, and they just clip from what it was like for stopping with the Ferraris and Shanghai. You kinda just didn't you couldn't go anywhere. Right. And grown as the Bill off track to avoid it. So the a lot worse. It could have been real bad. In fact, he gets sort of showered by carbon-fiber and a piece wedges in, like between his cockpit, and the halo. And he has to flip it out with his hand who grow grow. Really? Wow. I didn't know this up art and there, there is a further in the lab, a great battle between Norris and Verstappen, which is great because we were just talking last episode that like Norris, and for staff and fight all the time in their sim racing. Lee Norris is like, yeah, but I never really get to fight him on tracks this time we've got to see that. And then crucially bonus had a bad start, yet another sort of mediocre start right? About us and. I really wouldn't have thought would struggle so much beyond a red ball, not a rebel Renou once like. Some help about it. I just felt like his setup was not working for all this weekend, but he had a bad start fell behind hall convert on lap one. And I would have expected that would situation would not have lasted long, but he could not do anything behind hulking Burke. I really thought the mid they would've activated the s that would have been I mean overtaking for both Mercedes granted carves. Definitely seemed to be easy to be happier in it. But we're taking proposed Mercedes was to the problem of the day. Also problems for Norris on lap nine he looks like he hits a wall because we pick him up on camera near the world champions and his right rear tire very off. I've never seen it. But then Brundle immediately brindell is like with down this or something. Yeah. He spots that like something we're is up. And he, he claims he. Offers that the break temperatures melted, the suspension. Which might be true because to this day, we don't know what happened really. Yeah. Mclaren's like I know something happened. But all we seasons his right rear is basically just like hanging off the car. Yeah. Well, the yeah. That's, so that's the other thing is they were seeing it was a warm qualifying. And then it was significantly warmer still on race. So. Part of it was bad been outside their tolerances. That set the cars up for right? But it did seem like a really strange incident and a really worrying one right? Like these sort of. Sudden catastrophic failures are not Univer want them to happen. But the entire like an F one car, just falling the hell apart in the middle of a race is kind of a uniquely scary thought for a driver and frankly, not all outside the realm of possibility. 'cause like everything is engineered to knife-edge right back at like old raises in the even the nineties, like, well, yes, a quarter of the cars would finish right? Because they just d technically. And frankly, this, this would have been par for the course, six months ago from Clarin this kind of stuff happened to them all the time. The fact it is a little odd is Frank McGill little reoccurring. Yeah. Yeah. Totally like we still talk about Sebastian boy from wheels just popping. Yeah. Yeah. It's when those things happen nerves everybody because we like to pretend we're in the room of safety all the time. This. Actually, I have is lap fifteen Magnusson getting passed by Kefir, an Peres right caveat. I need to start saying. I say it's not. Let's get ended up with the Ricky artist. No, or the Claire. Well run. Yeah. He's not having a great weekend, Magnusson left. Thirty two Perez gets by the other of grows on thirteenth. At turn one got, like fucking clockwork Roma grows on team radio completely into the stewarts. It was such like it was it was a bit cheeky but, you know, you don't get it wasn't executive people were having easy overtakes in this track. You gotta be at work, and that's an overtaking spot, and he was, he was head of them, so off speaking of BOTAS on Ricardo lap thirty five, it's still going. But does tries to get by with DRS for fifth place. But Ricardo blocks think even run the points like I don't know about that move, but like you don't often. See even an attempt at blocking is passed because it's just kind of a given. Like he's got the is gonna pass me Ricardo though. No. He was a block this, I love this move by the way he was. I don't know about this whole, I forget, which, which one of the two different lapse, where he were he tried to defend against him. I think it was the first of them where he was the rule, of course, is you can only make one move. He can't make a second move. But unlike can rejoin the racing line rice, but also you, if you want, you can just kinda wiggle which is what RIC yard is. Now, I'm doing which is what Ricardo seem to do which is like he seemed like he was the teeter like he was standing on a lion. Trying to gain his balance. He was kind of thicker and left, and right, almost to be like hide both test because I've found airy. It seemed a little bit dangerous speed. But it did to me, it looked if he on the checking your mirrors a lot. I could see the car like shuttering a little bit under that as well. That might have just been to me, though, it did look like he was on the line of what would have been acceptable. And if that had happened again, I would have wanted to see the stewards probably step in right something but. Instead, what happens what we want to see happen, which is that bodus of us beat him basically, on the next lap, right? Like he. And what was cool about that? The thing I really enjoyed about. It is overall Bodas did not have a great weekend not a great race. But would I enjoy about this particular sequence is so he gets balked by these defensive moves by Daniel? And then the next time around, basically, he's like gotten the download on how Ricard Wayne defended. And so he showed he begins showing Ricardo exactly what we're us on the last lap. And then immediately cuts back. It's time to perfectly by the time Ricardo is executing his defensive move BOTAS already committed to the other line. And it was the thing that you just basically to meet to my eyes. At least it looked like something almost needed just have scripted like this is the plan running. Because if you wait too. To see it unfold. Fully it will be too late to me boxing, faint. It was just like perfect, like go for it, and then I'm going to lead us to them. So that was. That's the stuff we do like to say and it's I think Ricardo probably overstepped little bit defensive. But happily, they sort it out for themselves on the track. Yeah. Should we take it to lap forty eight is that when it happens? Well, should we set up a little bit like, yeah, I guess we haven't talked about what was going on. That'll never opened it up is the thing to, to say, right? Like usually when we see, usually, it's a Mercedes, but usually what we see is that somebody out there in the clean air, just drives away with a little bit less so this season. Live with those early races. At least, yeah. The early ones lately, it certainly felt a little more that way this time that'll never bully shook Hamilton it remained an uncomfortable interval the entire time. But it seemed like both of them were driving themselves. Didn't didn't seem like a distance or Hamilton with sandbagging or anything. No. And they sort of remarked also that, like, Hamilton, Santa more ragged than usual. And again, it was incredibly hot likely demanding grace. Yeah. Just a brutal race. And. I think at this point. That'll. That will starting to complain about something prior to this. Right. Like he was starting to they're talking about when it happened. They were playing radio. That was like he was about tires temperature or, or something breaks. They plan B at one stage, but like eater that was. A bit of misdirection or because the idea of them doing to stop was kind of, like never on the table. Right. Really? When you looked at the strategy. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, so lap forty five on employee. This from Keith cone, teen summary, unraced fans dot net because I couldn't remember what had happened, but apparently that'll got some kind of signal that meant back off Tate, like he gets radio. Message, the number of on the story Wheeler, correct. Take actions. Okay. Issue, maybe. Yeah. Not sure could've been cooling could have been key Keith's writing Goodman. Cool cooling, fuel consumption or break use. Right. But that'll started pacing himself a little bit more, okay? And that pulled Hamilton right into range, and now he sort of racing right? On. Vittles gearbox three laps and traffic through them off. I think for Hamilton lost the step at one stage or there may backmarkers young sort of close the gap, again a little bit. Right. And he had its backmarkers ahead of him. And as he's coming to turn three. So in the. Twisty sector one as a downhill she. Well, yeah downhill is his cane, everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree tweet never quite feels chicane, because the turns field just separated enough that to me, they're like separate turns. Okay. But it's a right. Yeah. And yeah. It'll Dan hill. Yeah. We own the rice. Yeah. Alonzo beached on the highways bring up always remember that for twenty two thousand eleven. I think yeah. Yeah. And that'll loses the back end a little bitty bobbled and cuts the corner. We enjoy. Yeah. So he doesn't spend all straightens the car at the grass Hamilton is right behind him. But when venom rejoins, he comes right out full speed on the racing line and Hamilton has to slam the brakes and sort of. Shimmy out of the way and then falling behind Vattel and. I will say when I saw that happen. My first thought was Convento do that moment. I saw there was no question on my mind that it was a doubtful move. And that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the racing. But my first reaction. I saw it is. This may be wrong. That's not how and for what reason because it's best case scenario. Right. Just go scenario, but also he launched himself like he wants himself, right back onto the racing line. Lavine rejoined, but off the racing line. And then like ridden side by side with like Hamilton through their like that would have been one thing, but he makes part of his recovery into a defensive move. Right. And that's to me, like seeing the on board from Hamilton's perspective, when I see how that all goes from for Vattel and the way comes back on from the car behinds position to me, it looks like both an unsafe moved, but also an advantageous one in that he like lurches back onto the racing line. Enforces Hamilton to spill off a bunch of time and concede this to, to battle. So. Oh for me. Immediately was a gray area. I didn't quite know because here's the other question, how much choice did that'll have unfolded, once he straight line, the corner, getting back onto tarmac from the grass and over the rumble, strip is a risky moment. Right. Like we've all like any racing game? Like that's where you lose it. The differential in grip on the tires number one, you dip on the grass. It's like ice. Yeah. Yeah. And you go onto the tarmac and it's completely different. Yeah. And that split second where you're on both. Surfaces is just wild dangerous gas wrong. He's been. Right. So that'll. Does have a choice about where he ends up rejoined the track? I don't know that part. And I think that's where so much of this one has come down to like intent like in the spirit of the rule. Right. The like. I was on your side as well at the when, when that initially happened. I thought, oh that like it's reading and convenient that he went off. It's convenient where came back on like, this is exactly where he would have wanted would've wanted to be it was funny. The fact that this happens to turns back from where he went white in the last lap and twenty eleven for both in the where he also he made a misjudgment Aaron came in a bit too hot. And I'm not sure if we're gonna get into this Pacific of at all, now, should we get into well, heavy, maybe we should finish out the race. Okay. Or at least go down the play by play. What happened? Yeah. Okay. So that happens. In vegtable. Let's see. Yeah. Keeps the position. Yeah. For the time being. Laugh fifty one Verstappen passes Ricardo for fifth place from nine quick thing. The moment that'll comes back on track retains that position Hamilton immediately gets on the phone radio engineer and is like that. I don't remember. Exactly exact wording. But basically that was dangerous. Man. That was yeah. You can't do that. And there's already on it. We're talking to the stuarts for Sadie. Yeah. Mercedes' for appetizer, one of the drivers not both. Forgets. It later speaking of radium messages, left fifty five Magnusson, quote, this is the worst experience. I have ever had in any race car ever. Well, then maybe it'll bike your I wouldn't make that out. That's what he's really this is the first I to it was, like, when I was watching them. My laptop was doing dishes. It just sounded like some winding and something about, like racecar ever. Yeah. And that's what I made out. That is so much worse. Really? But I thought I so race fans has the full transcript what went back and forth because they do skip a little bit in the in the when they played this in the broadcast magazine says that apparently what had happened in do unto dramatic reading. Okay. Let me set it up. I saw what happened with Magnusson? He crashes car. They put him in a new chassis gearbox in spent all night, rebuilding the car, basically. And then because he was starting so far back. They did an aggressive downforce option. Okay. So why not because we're not from the back. You're already certain pit lane. So. Just to contextualized that a little bit. Little bit of magazines defense but still that's rough. So I'm not even sure if that's a defense, like I kind of feel like that makes you makes it worse. Maybe. Sure. None of us are happy about this guy. Stayed up all night to fix the I'm gonna need to Steiner accent, or something. Yeah. Nuns are happy about this guy. Stayed up all night to fix the car. I know it's just. Yeah, it sucks. I know it's enough. Now, this Guntalk. It's enough. What does that mean what that means is that for us? It is also a nice experience. It's enough. Now. That's what it means. Enough is enough. Bad. Come on and say, stop winding right? Yeah. How often do you ever hear the team principal like weigh in on these like an over over wash as well over just be quiet like yeah. It's, it's not a straight decision that they're, you know, complaining against or just like it's housekeeping like it's like social media policy. Tell you, you are going to cover galaxies. Do your fucking. After the race magazine did say and this was not broadcast guys. I'm sorry. I know you're just as frustrated as I am and the guys in the garage big apologies. You don't great as always. Yeah. It's double-edged Arte the two sides of coin where it's like look, I'm sure being driver in that situation is very frustrating, and emotional, and all that sort of stuff. But, like, he's, he's not he's not green should know better, like just we know he's a hot head. That's part of it. And you been bit. I also you have humility, you, you skim, the wall of champions and put it in the other yesterday, and you like badly. You're the reason they were up all night that car up in ways. You can't immediately fixed Chaffey. I think it was. Right. You said they were place the change. So reading up a second car is brutal. I'm what's racing for like getting points rice like at that stage. Where was he where do you start? He started from the pit lane. Yeah. In lab, fifty five. Let's see here if he's just as fans dot net. They're awesome lap charts every week. He's an eighteenth place. Right. So this, this is the secret to Roman groshans longevity. He's just just seems shell like yeah he'll make bad mistakes. But also, if you make bad mistakes, too, as we saw, Dr survive, Roman grocery John will be there for us a teammate grown team player. Magnusson takes one rose you under the bus. Yeah. Okay. That was left fifty five fifty eight. A message on screen from the stewards. Five second time penalty for Sebastian battle. Right. Which is, I think the lowest penalty, you can get. Yes. Yeah. So I don't know create the GOP and this isn't a problem. True federal is told this over the radio he of course. No, no, no, no, no, no. Where to go? I did see him I had grass on my wheels. If he'd gone to the inside, he'd gone pass me. What he said that. Oh, he means the inside turn six. The inside, not the T rejoin. So if he's talking about Hamilton, had, like crossed to the left. Yeah. He coulda passed him. I feel like let me let me just finish the last thing. I have your lap sixty eight the front battle is now like has this weird thing looming over it. Signs loses a place to stroll on the final chicane for ninth place, and they make some marvelous move the inside of signs again for a tenth place. Our loss lost the penalty and then getting losing his points in the last lap. Yeah. Some really nice move v. It's move especially good. It's really good. So, but yet back to federal Hamilton, he can't pull that gap. And at the end of the day they finish Hamilton within five seconds of that'll, and the other person to talk about who basically not talked about all rice. There wasn't really much to talk about 'cause he's kind of no man's land was our good friend Charlotte Clare, who is on to get a podium, which is great because he's had a bit of a rough time of it. These past couple of races, and the big question is whether or not he's within five seconds of, of sev- because he's not that far off the pace. And right. And we subsequently find out that maybe our forgot to tell Charlotte that maybe they forgot forgot. No, I mean, they didn't tell them. Maybe they forgot. Maybe they didn't tell them. Said, you know angry seven second place. I don't know. Maybe he doesn't care but he got he came in. Third was at six point two or something. He was just off. Let's see the final race result here. I think he was four seconds off. Hamilton. He was four seconds off Hamilton at the end of the day, that always three seconds of Hamilton very close. Yeah, yeah. So it's a margin of one second. One second. So what do you make this where it stars? We talk about the pit lane poed himself abrasion in a second. I'm just curious incident. I've got I've got the incident. I've got fiddles few here. And I've got Hamilton's view here. Okay. Those these modest sport dot com. That'll insisted the hate he had deliberately that he had not deliberately cut across in front of Hamilton as he rejoined the track quote, I was coming back on track and trying to make sure I had the car under control. Once I regain control and made sure it was all right. I saw in the mirrors that Lewis was right behind me. I don't think I could have done anything different. I don't know what the problem was asked if he could have done anything more to avoid cutting in front of Hamilton. He said, no, how I've got two hands and I have them on the steering wheel trying to keep the car under the brake pedals right there. But you're. Hamilton's view. I watched the replace it's obviously very close. What I can't say is if I was in the lead, and I made a mistake and went wide, I probably would have done the same thing. It happened so quick, and you're just trying to hold the position. And when I say, I'd do the same I would have tried to squeeze him to the thing is from drivers point of view, you know how it goes. It's different when you're watching viewer, but as a driver things go wrong. And it's shoot you try to squeeze so that you don't lose position. It's a natural instinct that we have you're not going to go, actually, I'm going to pull to the left and let them bloody go by. He did block me. But unfortunately he went off track and the way the rules are written. That's how it is prescribed. Can I go whatever? I think I don't know. I've, I've read a bunch of Badische. I watched a chamber put up his perspective on the whole thing. Yes. And willing that there's been a bunch of really good opinions on it. So the, the thing that got him was the steward said that they saw second movement in on his wheel, which was out, which was after him gaining Rican troll back on the tarmac that they thought was him making a defensive move against. And I guess it's this whole thing comes down to like intent like either he meant to do this. And he was a way of voiding ish, or he didn't mean to, and it was no way of avoiding, and it's difficult for me is not an F, one driver or not insects head to really make a call. My gut feeling is the moments that he lost control. He was trying to make sure he did not lose position. Like these f one drivers are. It is a very split-second decision to be made. All these guys do is make split-second decisions over the course of this whole truck. What did everyone think the minute he went white is Louis going to get past him everyone. There's only one overtaking like no one's going outside of that thing. I across some of their car like there was only ever going to be one thing to everyone in their minds. I was thinking is he going to get to the wall fast enough? So that Lewis can't accelerate chicane fast enough. To me maybe on a different part of the track or a different track, or wider piece of track. It's more of a complex issue. But on this one it just seems so bloody obvious the one thing you need to do is get back on the truck gets it part of jock. He didn't need to be going fast next. Turn is coming up in a in a hot second and it's a it's taken an fourth year. I think so to me, it, it was a executive needed to do. I think they gave him the limo st- lenient penalty. They deemed what he had done like they knew what the issue as well that it was that was it wasn't that he'd gotten back on track was that he had. He had made a he'd done something elective -ly that was going to cause a problem for drivers. And I think that's why they penalize them. And I think it's a shitty penalty. It's an annoying one and it kind of took a sting of battle, which I, I would have been fine if it wasn't given. But I told you understand that it was giving. I think we're I fall is that. I don't blame the stewards because I think they are in forcing. What's in the rules do? I think the rules should probably change. Yeah. Or at least provide a little more granularity. The problem with that, though, is if you have a space open for a lesser penalty to be applied drivers going to push a lot more in these rules are there for safety. Right. Is it? Is it the five seconds? You don't like or it's, it's a it's a lack of to put it in Rob's, acne terms, a lack of a rule of cool, right? Okay. Yeah. To maybe contextualized a little more. Here are some voices against handing federal a penalty. Mario andretti. Jimmy johnson? Alex worse. Nigel Mansell Mark Webber. You said cool, you Nigel Mansell Allan? Mcnish ghetto Vander guard and max Chilton and Ricardo, although I wasn't able to find the source for that Ricardo. I make six changes direction in front of you oughta de Lorette strikes. Yeah. Okay. Good point voices for the penalty in favor of penalties. Invesco Nico, Rosberg good blogger. Enjoy in Palmer. Okay. Who? Wrote a really good. Article for the BBC, right. He's a columnist there. Who basically says by the letter of the law, that'll was guilty. And goes on to question. You know, should should glob changed, right? What do you think? I mean, this is such a perfectly gray situation, I can make a good argument for either finding. I think fundamentally. I probably like the rolling like it did like yes, it does feel like in some ways, the stewards put their hand on the scale and determined the outcome of the race. On the other hand. What we wanna say close racing drivers under pressure on the edge. That'll lost it. You lost it like and yes, he was able to straight line it and come back on the track and squeeze Hamilton, Hamilton's very fair. In a statement, any driver with done it. Yeah. And who knows how much control that'll had. But like either way. All of the starts when the car gets way from battle for just that fraction of a second. And the same thing doesn't happen apple Hamilton, does what he continues do which is just keeps coming. With the car under control able to sustain that pressure for lap after lap after lap. That'll guests the stewards played a role. Venta lost battles race. Play a role of federal law. Yeah. Control. And so that's kind of that's kind of where I come down. Like, honestly, what it made me really wish for is that F one circuits had more run off. To me, the thing I heard track design Irvine's ears just picked up. I like where I'm going with this, those a little more run off with like tarmac. So we can do the IndyCar thing. Coda. All right, boys. Let's go ratio K, because that's the like imagine how rule of cool, imagine like the Ron Howard's rush version of this. We're like that'll straight lining back onto the track like intercut Campbell feet pounding the break, and then cutting over onto the asphalt outside the track on the right side, and just like zooming around him and like smoke grass everywhere. It's awesome. Well, I mean, like apply Roman grow. John's frequent missing is a turn one into Spain. I guess. Where you have you have to have a pile on their right for, for reentry, which is the way they make sure it's both safe. And also, give you a, that's I mean, the pile on their means they don't have to give you a five second penalty. Like, that's taking a smaller pedal time penalty away in the moment to make sure obviously is not possible on the turn where it has happened. Yeah. But it is interesting to me, how the narrative of this whole race is come down to oh, vet alost this race because because he because of a ruling or the rules when Vesey invented lost the straits. Same reason he's continued to lose places this entire season. He keeps making these mistakes in qualifying and race. It's on. It's, it's an it's now becoming the sort of the big difference. When we look the legacy of battle in the legacy of Hamilton, Hamilton, just like Terminator does not over the course of a whole rice like many other people Mercedes cars haven't done. The same thing like Niko is capable of making mistakes. I mean so it was Louis already career Valkyrie for sure. But he's just he's cold as Ice Man. And then. Sad. I mean literally, he made a mistake in this race in on the next turn like years earlier. But I just think in, in recent memory, he's, he's just not been able to hold it together. And I'm not sure if that's a car thing, or a set thing or Montera both. But like at the end of the day, I think he lost outrace because, like, put the car off in a place that you don't weedy tend to lose the car. Yeah, I wanna read tumor quotes here. One is from Ed straw out of sport. Once you have the hard and fast rules, people keep clamoring for the hands of the stewards are tied, and they don't have the freedom simply to let it go. The demand is always for consistency but no two incidents are identical all require interpretation, and it would have been better for the racing head this one been. Let go the stuarts did the right thing by the framework in which they operate. But F one needs to give them more room for nuance decisions because outcome does not have to play a part in the ways these incidents are kid. Second, quote here from Brian Ross Brawn, the managing director of motor sport of Formula one. Yes, also autosport and just say. I believe the stewards would be the first say that they would prefer not to see a race outcome decided to be a penalty at the same time. I understand how difficult it must be fans to understand why the driver on the top of the podium is not the one who crossed the finish line first. That's why transparency is important when it comes to explaining issues decisions at the steward's, especially in such a complex for me. The one as it is it is in football, where despite the arrival of VR, which stands for what do we know it's the it's the slowdown technology for goals and offsides, ambles stuff now, there is still discussion as to whether a handball should be punished with the penalty or not, therefore, it might be it might be useful to work with the FAA on solutions that would allow the stewards to explain their decisions to the fans and to elaborate on how reached. I would agree. I'm sympathetic to any fan or fry fine or even someone who's not a fine of, you know, either those who felt like this was a little bit harsh. And I, I I'm kind of, like rob. I'm like, either way, I guess I would have been okay with it. I've learned to not put my stock in f one rules, all that much. But I will say is that if it was the other way around, I think Lewis would have been cheated more so than the way it ended up being, I think Lewis, having doggedly hunted him down lap after lap after lap after lap. And then getting that chance getting blocked that would that would a sucks. I feel like I think that the fight was there and Louis was in it that whole time and I'm going to be Luis Mercedes fan. But I think I think he deserved it in a way to kind of didn't I think this is the other part of maybe why this turned into such controversy. If you watched that race broadcast like Brundle was very high. Budgen about, like if they penalize that we should just pack, it all in, and what are we even doing here anymore and? The pit lane reporter Buxton. No books, no. Oh, Ted grab. It's Ted Kravitz. Yeah. Was also sort of in the same boat. This is this is racing. That was you can't do that for the show, and I think the other thing that informs this imagine the car trailing him is not a Mercedes. Imagine SEB does that. And it's Charl behind our Charles. Yeah. Like, I think people would feel differently because, like I to me I feel like on. There's a subtext here that swapped make it Hamilton. You spins off. Yeah. And slow and said, yeah, but I think there's I think then the still would've weighed in because part of this is people are tired of seeing Mercedes win. See for him Nacho win victory. And I think if it hadn't been Hamilton in that position and it had been like another underdog team like Renault. No. I think people would have been like, well, and then you would have heard Danny's argument right there. Well, you know, Daniel is brought has been reeling him in lap after you can't take this away from Renault having the race of their, and I'm this is the other thing that weighed on it people in waiting for fraud actually bring the fight to hear. They brought it. And then I was so excited views. Yeah, I was reading excited to see the two on the voting and hopefully I mean, we got it. But imagine the ended up. Infamous, twenty seven grand prix if instead of happening on the next corner had happened there and block them and came second. I mean, the end of the day, that never came into the steward's decision that's all just part of, but it's part of the emotional response. If you like why people feel certain way and it's probably why I maybe I'm sympathetic towards sad. Because ultimately, I think said, rob does grace endings race to me. It's. I don't wanna blame them because it's incredibly hard to drive a phone card. But for me if there's blame anywhere it's losing losing a car and. Yeah. I were Sebastian that'll, I would simply retain control of my car and just just put the phone car on all gears and put trashing Charleston. So this one to bring up here curiosity. If you both what do you make of his demeanor after this? Right. Like how how in case anyone's TV cut off or something? Yeah. What, what is supposed to happen is the top three cars drive to the pit lane where they have the signs that say one two and three you parked behind your number. And you stick around for an interview and then you go up to podium that'll just parked his car in the pit lane. Pushed him back to the garage. Yeah. And actually, when he did that we didn't see this during the broadcast, but Ephron. Tweeted out of video Hamilton is driving up next to him behind him sees that federal stopped his car early and like stops next to him and like waves over like, hey, you want to hop on my car for a ride the controversial rise to, to, you know, where we're supposed to park, the car is. Did you have a car problem or something, you know, step doesn't were? He said he said he didn't notice them. You didn't notice. So just continues on fella just doesn't even go to the interview he walks into his, he walks to Wade by the FAI whichever driver has to do. And then he walks to that. Yeah. That Ferrari hospitality suite. But then they grab him and pull them back. Yes. So he said, after the race, I think it was a matter of respect to show Lewis, and Charles and also Representative for Mercedes who is Hamilton's power unit. Engineer Margo Torres on the podium to be part of the podium. Certainly wasn't the place. I wanted to be because at that point, you just want to get out. So he says he got back there because of respect. I think the team was probably like, hey, you're you have to do this, or we're going to get another penalty. Yeah, you won't be on the podium. Right. Like they'll give you another penalty, and who isn't force. Otas. No. Gosh. We didn't even run down the race result. Yeah. Yeah. We'll do that after this. But on his so he does eventually get out e-. He actually walks through the Mercedes garage was released. Yeah. I'll get back to you know where they're. He has to go to the spot where the cars parked to get back up to the podium, where everybody is right. He's just going to go head TOTO. Wolff. But on his way, do you want to describe what he did? I mean. Yeah. He just walks over to the to sort of stand easy for second, and I and swaps. I guess, second with on first with like where his car should have been puts second on a Lewis Hamilton's. I just taught. I, I mean, part of me liked I love the, the soap opera of f one but I just this whole thing just fell to me, like, like kid who was in Baras. Yes. And it was just trying to pay cool. Anyhow founds there, which was nice. But like I just taught it. So I thought it was childish. But I loved it. Yeah. Yeah. Like I it was such classics sub like. Saga my partner, and I have the state like my partner. Does this vicious impression of Sav? Whenever things are going on the radio and her her impression of sev- is always, like, but Papa. I relieving the race but Papa dangerous. And like he is very much like the stereotypical like. You know, wining Weiner banned. Yeah. And like, it's how come across repeatedly. He just immediately becomes maximum petulance and. No, it's not a good luck. Like it was the moment when if ever going sympathy for the bastion vet all this would have been the moment. And by the time he's come to the end of the pit lane. All that sympathy has gone by the time it's time to go to the podium. Everyone's like, you know what the hell with this guy? Like just I think, I think Lewis, Hamilton the way he has sort of the way he's just communicates, and like reacts to this stuff or maybe doesn't react to us is a large part of this as well. I think if said was part of a, hunts loud situation, or a process where they were going to to-, you'd have something, but like time and time again whenever a massive Lewis Hamilton, Sep, I'm certainly not. But whenever sept- tries to like make a rise editor stuff. How never bites like even the, the, the wheel top Baco like two years ago when said living, rammed Hamilton. Like like any other drive? You can imagine losing their mind or like stormy and the pit lane after the race doing it at Hamilton was just like except just hit me. You know what I mean? Like he was just like pretty common but he doesn't rise to it. And I think he didn't this time as well. In fact, if anything but a time we went up to the green room. It was a lot of contrition. So good. I think that doesn't I think if how Milton was as petulant, or like somewhere there, it would give it would make it just makes sense behavior. Look all the less like digestible. I think yeah, Tom just doesn't care. He's not there for that. The green room was really good thanks to the green room. So I think that a walks in. And he says he shakes with San is like I know it wasn't right. And then they all just sit there quietly, and there is a Canadian Mountie in the corner of the frame. Trying not to look like knows something really intense as going on behind him. But he can't turn around and look funny. Then not on the podium. The trophies. This is really hard moment, where. The, the woman handing the second place trophy tries to give it to Charlotte Clare. And then he has a federal. God, that's all but after the champagne which is also really awkward. I really did feel sorry for Hamilton's power, you engineered pump to so pumped actually, I think her enthusiasm made me feel so much. She even doused fennel, I think she lives up a little bit or something. She like sprayed it. Right. And so I was faced in a non aggressive way, and he was kind of like all right and did it as well. So that was quite nice, but Brundle did finally get a chance to interview that'll like corralled him in Hamilton. And like talking with them back and forth. And people started doing Lewis and credit. He did say you know. You know, he interrupted and said, like people shouldn't be Lewis was not as decision, which of course you. Please. Thank you for doing that. Yeah. But I'm at least glad that practice about a bad week for Canadian sports fans to be honestly Canadian crowd's not doing themselves. Brower. Our this last week. I think you're booing Lewis for that situation. It ain't about what happened on the track. Like, that's like, I don't know that one that one felt weird to me because this wasn't I understand why people boot Schumacher when he like. Robbed Kello like wind of track in Austria, I understand why people get heated about that stuff. There are times to boot f one races foreshore. This was this was a gray area. And like the drivers draw that it was crummy, but it was that'll did once he'd sort of regained control himself. I think important, well, but my God the tantrum was something. Well, classified finishes. All right here Hamilton in first place, followed by Sebastian fedel Charlotte. Clare rounding out the top three behind them. Faucher BOTAS for staff, and fifth followed by Ricardo and Hobart. Nice six seven for Reynaud points. Haul. Ghastly stroll and caveat rounding up top ten behind them. We got signs Perez, and Tony g of Nazi Roman grow. John. Racking in fifteenth. Then we got Russell in sixteenth Magnusson. Could be. And the not classified were album who DNS on lap fifty or twenty three. Williams cars two and a half laps back. It a real hard time of it. Yeah. And so it was Magnusson to back. All right. And also to for his. He's weird thing. Botas scored the point for setting we talk about his. He parked his car right at ready into the pit lane. And kind of had it sitting here for the rest of the race. It did stuck. They're stuck around for a bit driver standings here. Hamilton on top with one, sixty two BOTAS second place with one thirty three's fashion fiddle and third. With one hundred points. We got for staffing with eighty eight LeClair was seventy two gase with thirty six and then a big jump down to signs in seventh place with eighteen points. Ricardo's got sixteen magazine with fourteen presen- reckon inter tied for tenth place with thirteen points. Then we've got another time with twelve points has hokum Berg and Norris the fee it with ten yet Alvin has seven stroll has six grow. John has to and Tonio Jeevan Azi, George Russell and Bobby Kay have zero points. Bummer for juvenile could. Yeah. Twelve place in point. Shame. Constructor's standings, Hobo this Mercedes with two ninety five for he's got one seventy two and red bull has won twenty four McLennan fourth place with thirty got twenty eight racing point with nineteen Scuderi a total. Russell has seventeen Gina's team have sixteen points for amaze got thirteen and Williams with zero Yikes damn. It's not even that. Good of a form of the one point five. Yeah. What was that race like for them? That was an interesting one. I, I can I can check while you guys talk about the first item on our news. It's the first one. This is this was. So, apparently somebody tried to break into rolling groshans house. What is up with them? Trying to break. Remember Jenson Button got like the gas gas Tim and his wife and the their house. What he was like some JAMES BOND nonsense. It's. Attempted to -ducted as well at Interlagos one year for socks. He's so we'll have a new version, apparently somebody tried to get into his house while family was home and grow Sean like ran to the door. Okay. Put his got between the burglars and his family and sort of scared them off. So marrying grocery on his wife posted this infringe on Instagram, and there is a translation from Reddit user Longhorn Jeep levered, cool. Longhorn gps. So this is totally accurate. But this user says that the English translation is often sportsman who performed great performances are said to be heroes. I have never agree with this term. They do not save the world. They embellish it. Of course it has already awful today, though. I can tell from my husband that he is both a sportsman and hero. This patio. Door. And she shows a picture of it is the one by which burglars entered our home that night, no one has been hurt. Happily, and our children will never know the fright, that has been hours. They Instagram thanks to at Roman grows or at grow John remain who, who has not who did not hesitate to leap in front of them to block their way and protect his family. I've never liked to display private life in the press around the networks, but the heroes. Win to be known to be recognized and I live with one of them. Thank you. My love. Oh, probably just told him that of posting Instagram thing push. She wanted him to get props for being brave. Yeah. Respiratory save somebody from drowning that one time in Monica, you're right. That was a Kimmy after he fell off his yacht. That's awesome fairplay romance. That's great if I was to hear a story about f one driver and protecting their family, and that's I wouldn't have immediately thought about him. But I can I can see that. Hocutt, like kicked the person's face it. A spike and left in his living room for the one point five team standings. Mclaren with one thirty two are us with one thirty. Wow. It's fight racist twenty nine. This is close shit. Williams. Do Renos got one nineteen Haas has one oh, four alpha male with ninety two Williams. Eight because they've just like they're on the board because they get bumped up two tenths because the six less cars, oh, more often they just get points. That's beautiful. That's great wonderful. You should start watching one point five. I guess we all are watching state of mind. Okay. In other fun news. Oh, god. Speaking of. Energy drinks, someone drank a little too much energy drink. I think and then went on rich energies Twitter account. Okay. Whoever manages this thing is absolutely. It's, it's, it's Tim rice it is you're right. It's the yeah, it's Mr. story. Do we have shift if one? I'll look it up. Okay. Because they've got seventeen thousand you know what we're. We're not saying we're not new that are not. No, we have five thousand almost like it. We didn't. A won firmly in the white bikes tier. Fifty three hundred sponsor car. 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That's the thing. Like I like if you're like if my chair held up for this, I would like my, my company's chair, like held up for this I absolutely like teach God. They totally asphalt like right. This is some serious, wear and tear, and like wheels usually things plastic like legs and ten acres. Toll on the performance participants, but spirits remained high as tired body, staggered away from the event quote, I was tricked into doing it joked. Forty five year old cetera tug, your Lasca forty five zero co worker to do them team with other fathers from his children's school body is really sore. Their award was retaining the title of a sorry, Sundays winning team, kits you get to Gaba. New came from Kyoto and had traveled several hours with their chairs for the race. Their award was retaining the title. They won last year and prize of ninety kilograms per one hundred ninety eight pounds of local rice, which the drivers struggled to pick up such was their fatigue on my God. Yeah. Chairs on exalt. You kind of throw three of them in the back of your car, apparently is gone. Because the next issue, one grand prix takes place in a Wata prefigure next month next month. Yup. I guess, these are the regionals are they go round, the whole place, real estate, every prefecture baby. Let's class. It's beautiful great Linhart story almost took the rich energy tastes that so it's still there in our fantasy league if you like to join a fancy you can do. So in the show notes there. The join code. In first place steering wheel. Hey give it to me. Move come on followed by the Hamiltons break the system. We're Sadi's all the way. Alpha emojis. Maka F one, fry the tires, dragon ball GT blow to the future part, three my personal favorite speed beast. And number ten pointless racing force. Points. Hedge do it for our as my team again. So I'm feeling pretty good about it. Declare think. Probably miss. Yankees. Dig into some emails. Sure. Most of them were, we have a lot of input from people about the Vattel, how issues some of which kind of a little bit early may before all the news came out of it. So and a bunch of good stuff. I'll keep for the next week we're we're going to require. But I've couple here. A broom says this is more of a technical question, which we actually got another one last week. So I might as well address it. Hey guys, this weekend was, obviously crazy, but something I noticed that I never thought about was, what the back of the grid does wants to lead is finished Williams and others were two laps or more behind the leaders, but as soon as leaders finished do they do their cool down laps and are sorry leaders in on our over the place do the rest of the pack have to finish the laps or there's a race just end. And so the simplest way of explaining this is that one St. leader crosses the star finish line. Then every other racer finishes the lap that they're on at race pace. And then slows down. So you know, if backmarkers not gonna. Caught by the race leader once the raiders finished because the race leader slows down. So there's enough of safety guy. I want us to finish well described also one hundred twenty one points down. I look Claire Peres for staff, and BOTAS Rakkinen racing point. Not that was the only one that was kind of a little bit of a dumps grip. Yeah. Eight points in seven hundred ninth place at or how many. How many? Our at least two thousand. This is a bit of feedback from our friend Marcella, penalties sort of discussion. We've been having for a couple of weeks about penalties and through enforced differently to different people of with the week. That was innocent. Another chance to talk about it. He said, I just wanted to follow up on your discussion on penalties on the frustration around inconsistency of their severity. I think that the problem isn't that the penalties are unevenly distributed, but that we as viewers don't even notice it rule set. And also aren't getting an explanation on why the specific penalty was given which drew talked about last week one of the commentators on Danish television, where I watch if one being from Denmark is record holder for most of the mom wins and Danish racing legend Tom Christiansen who by chance. Also doubles as a steward at F one. Interestingly, he is able to call the penalties before quite consistently when commenting on the race while it's going through reason. The reasoning behind it, which leads me to believe that the problem isn't inconsistency, but rather that we aren't aware of this Pacific. Rules and are the criteria for the situation that being said, I do agree that history and personality is a big part of it as well and fantasy interesting just talking about what you're seeing Martin Brundle, the whole fact that, like I do feel like the conversation starts here with the commentators. We're sort of sets are the where where the sort of mid point is maybe in, in it. And it is always interesting to hear the difference in perspective from people who are, perhaps, obviously, Chris driver in his own, right? But also working as a steward against a retired driver Martin, Brundle, who's always going to putting on a show put on show and also you know, as a driver always in its win it right Christians also. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting that, like, perhaps, you know, a guess it goes to Rob's point is while sort of the, the grayness of the rules and how we don't really know a lot of time even because even something like soccer would humble, it's open to so much interpretation intent and, and the time of even like what time of the you know how much gone on the game. Humbled for pounding the first thirty seconds. Feels a lot worse than those in the ninety second, you know. And I would like I said before I would love to for them to be able to throw to somebody. What do you think your who's, who's the guy that they always throw to dean blandino all the NFL is he the rules guy guy? Lose network here. Okay. So, yeah. CBS dean bunny, Dino. I want to be, yeah. CBS and then FOX has. Okay, the guy who was head of fishing for even longer. Yeah. I guess it's F one stores, exactly growing trees, or you know. You know, I mean, a lot of people have been because it's rotating, right? Like there's is not clear or is it one rotating? See do they still do. This is still side of confusion is really telling also they don't show because the used to say more often. So, and so is the driver's Representative on the stewards ex driver. And they used to showcase that a lot now do they still have that program where it's like, okay code him on the broadcast key in this sucks. He caught a lot of like terrible stuff on Twitter. Which don't do that. Who did the driver, Stuart after this race particular? Yup. Oh, really that sucks. 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It's called the rally Italia Sardinia here on my calendar. By the way, all this stuff, you can go to too much racing dot com. I thought to number two now. Okay. Which is where I get all these which where I got all the calendar things and put them all into one cool. This is how I do this. Tell us secret. Adam to your fucking five years. He's finally told me how he did that the world endurance championship is that limo for guess what? The twenty four hours of Lamont's this weekend. One stuff van Doorn is raising. Among many other people unstoppable on stuff. -able. Gander mountain trucks. They're back great. We're at the Iowa speedway for around ten or prefecture's. Oh, you know what this does not have the name of the race here moving? Moving up to know, s car, you need to know what has gunderman trucks, going as we have. Baptized them ourselves looked it up because it's the Eminem. Two hundred everybody from tastic, great peanut chocolate. They just like the standard ones Pianim supercars there at the hidden valley motor sports complex him valley at one hundred and seventy one hidden valley road valley him valley. And then I was going to be like, is at him like singing or him like a band. The bummer genres friend was in no hidden valley, but they give the dress. So it's not much of a mystery anymore. They're racing in the easy bet Darwin. Triple crown easy. Bet anyone could do. It was just bet. I haven't watched any supercars this season up in Washington d p. Then on Father's Day, we got Moto GP there at the circuit de Barcelona Catalonia or loan is written here for the grand prix me monster. Energy Catalunia on the track setup IMAX GP. That's motocross grand prix there in Latvia, for the next of Lafayette. NHRA there at the Bristol Dragway in Bristol Tennessee for the thunder valley nationals. World rally car championship, or I'm sorry. The world rallycross championship is in hell. Norway for the world. Rallycross Norway, Valhalla. And Utah calculate you tell me stone NASCAR this week, correct? Durham newness. Nascar drew others kindness. Car there is only the expedient series, okay? Which is like NASCAR junior. It's like yeah. Missed lizardo. Oh my God. This just in there. Also at the Iowa speed hundred. But breaking news, there are still circuit cities, because it's this city to fifty powered by Tam. Ron is this. Oh, they like have they like resurfaced, Circuit City is, like, Circuit City is like a an online. I have no godly ham. Ron, I feel like I've Google tamra before I feel like it's like a oh, yeah. It's this website that member. It's the website that I'm on for car parts. Right. Is that it the wise, Circuit City there? Wait now, these on car parts camera parts confused. They sell lenses. Lens company. Jeremy should be on this podcast. Yeah, yeah. Powered by lens company. Seems okay. Sirkin cameras. This question. No just just, just watching, don't ask questions. If you like support the show, you can do so a patriot dot com slash shift F one and get accessed all that weird stuff. We mentioned at the top of the show. There's beer tastings on their credibly highly produced testing video. Let's say yes really got eight K twelve came when we workman over there. Okay, great. Seventy millimeter beer tastings shot in one twenty it's a very long video. Yeah. And then. We've got next week. We'll be talking about France. Yeah. Circuit to pull cards. Rob said he wanted more run off. So. Here's a go-cart truck for you. That's kind of how it feels maybe not what had in mind, also was more room overall and less. The runoff has that weird stuff on it. That slows your car down a lot somehow works, but it doesn't seem like it should, but it works. Well, I've got weird stuff inside of me after that during tests. Yeah, I'm gonna have to say good night here from Los Angeles. Thank you, everyone for listening. Thank you guys for. Joining me here pleasure. I mean, during your busy, three weeks -solutely, you say it as if you're the one staying in this place kicking. Thanks for coming. Jeremy for helping us out this week. So thanks, Jeremy. And I hope everyone has a good race weekend. We will see all next week.