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Ellen Pompeo Leaves 'Grey's Anatomy' After 19 Seasons
"By she, I mean Ellen Pompeo, the actress who's now said goodbye to working on gray's anatomy, who was it 19 seasons playing Meredith grey on the ABC show? So it's 2022, so 19 years ago, we're talking 2002, 2003, actually. Why is he why are you a little bit freaked out? I'm not freaked out by it. I see what Ellen has turned into. She's always like a pretty, pretty girl. Kind of sexy ish and a little elfin way. If you understand, but you know, most of you, some of you know that I go way back with Ellen Pompeo. We used to live in the same building in the west village of Manhattan. Greenwich Village, west village, and it was great building a lot of people there. Amber Valletta Courtney Love Drew Barrymore, which is the end of the guy from American history X Ed Norton, jodeci, the group, oh, great building. Great people in Nam was a lot of fun being in the elevator, being in a lobby and seeing people come and go. Ellen Pompeo lived with a guy in that building who was a photographer. They weren't getting along too well. And, you know, she would come to my room because we knew each other and she'd bring a bottle of wine and nothing went down, nothing no sex, something like that, but she'd bring a bottle of wine, it takes some glasses out and would have some wine and talk and she'd tell me about her situation or problems how she wasn't getting along with that guy and she really wants to act and she's taking acting classes and nothing's happening. Blah, blah, blah. In fact, then I was the guy who was getting work and doing things. So Ellen would like come to my apartment to talk about the industry and stuff because I was going to LA every couple of weeks to do stuff and write my column and eventually I said, you know, when I go to LA, would you mind watching my dogs and watering my plants? I'm only leaving for like three days top. She goes, I would love to. I said, if you're having a problem with the guy, just sleep here, sleep in my bed. Really say, you know, can't you sleep in a bed? So she would sleep in a bad one of my plants walk my dogs, boom. She blew up. She did a movie, was it old school? Which was a nice part, and then forget it. Bang up. Right? To graze anatomy, know, well, maybe not all of you know how much money she makes, but I think almost $20 million a season. Ellen cleaned up, not bad, not bitter, but when you're in this business, there are some people who fly by you and there's like nothing you could say, like it just happens, you know? Like, wow. That really happened to her career. She went, she got that famous that quickly. Yeah, she did. 19 seasons and done. She never has to work another day in her life. Of course she will. But never has to.
"ed norton" Discussed on Channel 52: The DC Podcast
"Best comics. Hey didn't you see lego batman batman built. That's super. i mean back. In the day i mean during the christopher reeve superman was pretty big. Here's the water. There's i mean. I mean at least until eighty nine russia all the bracket for sure. Yeah that's sad. Somebody super stuff in his can be in the practice I think i have the lineup supergirl. Steel people. how team votes. I know. But i'm going to stay the initial matchups maybe supergirl and steel or cat or cat woman just automatically advances. It's gonna pump into the twenty fifth. Fantastic four. I don't know i know if it's gonna easily with all marvel not. Hey four two man. I like oh four to is is like the worst mortal in a what i meant. Three was okay. I mean there was two months gave there was too much suits flying around by itself. It's but i mean it wasn't for what it was. Rj said while clean. I'm sober and i basically got your empire. Don't do three tasks. I respect the game. A man already j elevated that move. I could have been way. Worse a min-. Oh three put that movie up. Oh my god. Allah goes charlie. Us be like that's great. Move a nation for free. Oh i do it on weekends serious without your pants on hale chad. Like the ed norton as bruce. Oh my sweet summer. Aright our kids. Who is who is. Who is better or worse. Ed norton or eric bana now might be a bracket gas. I incredible.
"ed norton" Discussed on Power 106 FM
"It hurts my heart to have to share this news brother that was truly close and opportunity to sit down. Whether we came to my house. We sat down, We broke bread. On many occasions. We talk future projects, and my brother is gone way too soon. Michael K. Williams was only 54 years old. But its stars shine so bright for Boardwalk Empire Love crab country to the wire, and everybody on social media has been showing so much love. His brilliance was brilliant. Y'all We will remember him for all this powerful performances in Hollywood and the entire community as stepped up on Twitter and this show so much love Everyone from Ed Norton, Alec Baldwin. The Chance the rapper Window Price Fat Joe Martin Lawrence, Marlon Wayne's nods. So many just showing love to my brother. Let's continue to put them up there for an angel. Y'all forever takeover Michael K. Williams, one of the best ever do it, Love. You can't they Can't radio slipping falling? I can't get up through the Let me fly or give me death. I think I'm slipping and falling. I can't get up so rest. Take my breath. I've been through mass different phases like mazes to find my way. But now I know that help you day and not far away. If I'm strong enough, I lived long enough to see my kids doing something big because they were forced to be to be a man without a helping hand towards instead they're set up stupid before I got to get up. Get back. Walking cannons..
"ed norton" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman
"No prison sequence. That's amazing there was flashbacks to a lurid image of being slammed against the wall and rape. That's it. There was not one bit in david's original script was about the nature of what had transpired in the prison. That had changed him and when we sat down and everything he's the best david is the best and he and when we talked for a long time about all these things he lit up and he was like. Oh my god dude. Like let's fucking go. Let's go and and he said to me he was like let's tear this thing apart. Helped me out. I wanna make it. I want to do with you blah blah blah. And he said just one thing is. This is my first script. It's really important to me. It's a career making moment for me. Whatever we do. I don't care he goes right. Do whatever i need this. You know this is my script. And i was like and i literally put my hand out. I was like dude done right. I it's like all i want to. Let's do much audible done. We worked for like months and months and months together every day. Him writing me writing doing these things. We worked on that and turned it into the thing we wanted to do right. Yes we wanted to do. I would no more betray. David like the rules engagement with us. I want to say on renders. I remember you literally said i remember. We're standing outside the country club. We're the first scene with with you. And matt and the in the long Craftsmanship driveway thing. And and you said if i can find something funnier. I'm going to try to say it. If you guys want me to go back to the script. I'll go back to script whatever and it was like. Hey and like. I say i think there are. There are five or six lines in the movie. That i know david i didn't write and i'm so fucking happy that during the movie and then the rest of it is exactly the script that we wrote and but but the thing is the thing. Is that unfamiliar. Projects was having his new line. We start making a movie with tony. Tony told me told me in. David i have no i. I have no experience with narrative literally whatsoever. He said i'm a. I understand the moment. He literally savings like. I'm a photographer injured in a moment. And he he used to say. I leave that to you guys. I leave that to you guys. I he goes. I think this is fantastic. I know what to do with this. And for all of tony's like what does he did he great. You know it's amazing for a great is a great sense of things. He wanted to use the photo. Sonic cameras on turn and he had. He has like amazing visual instincts right but it was to such a degree on that film that he he would pull up. He would pull up in his car and take. What are we doing today and we would say. It's the scene at the table. With beverly liangelo and elliott gould right edward. Rehearse it for a while to get it all together and when you're already call me right. And then he would go do phone calls and i would rehearse essentially like act like a director rehearse the scene and then we would go get tony. Tony would watch it like an audience. And then he would go right. Great amazing amazing. Don't anybody move. And he would run around. Set up lights. Put the camera on his shoulder and shirt and shoot it and we would and this was obviously an orthodox and we were all young and i remember thinking well. This is great. We're we're all a team where we're this is unorthodox. David are working on the script. I'm sort of handling the the staging of it. Tony shooting it. But tony was tony. Throughout and on into the editing he was a person of great emotion and on many occasions he wept like would he would break down in tears and he would give me a hug and say i have never been this supported i have never had and if i can just i just wanted to. I've never had a collab-. I've never been supported. I just want to jump a slightly ahead. Because we have to end soon. And i just want to say i'm going to deep into this. No no you're not. Because here's i wanna jump ahead because i saw the cut that you had to work from because i was there i wanted to say like the thing about the rap about you in this way and again as someone who's made movies with you and then been around a bunch of them like the cut that exists of american history. X is because of what you did in the editing room. And i know that not because you told me but because i yeah you showed me the cuts that existed before and the cut that you know what's important to just say because i objective also lost people. Don't even understand like tony commercial editor. Who did this really gonzo cut. Nobody can make heads or tails of it. Tony got a little insecure. Whatever tony went off to shoot a commercial it literally in the middle of the whole thing and the whole thing was sort of flat line literally. No one knew what to do and i got on the phones and called around. I didn't go in and and cut it. I i went. I i went in. I did some stuff to reassemble stuff. They're trying to into a more full-throated away totally almost like a script assemblage right just so that so that an editor would know what we had to work with. And i went and got jerry greenberg. Who won the oscar for the french connection kramer versus kramer apocalypse. Now that literally. Those are his credits. I got that guy to come in and work on the movie with me and tony. Many times in the course of that process tony wept and said to me like you know like i've never been supported and everything and i had great love for the guy like he was he was a very. He's very figure and everything. But but you weren't serving your. I just wanna say watching it all you wanted. I remember you show david me that original cut and then later cuts and you're like tell me like you were so open you being told. Here's what we're going to be. We we went through this whole thing and everything. Tony went through Tony went through a struggle. To make a thing go he and he and by the way. I am not saying that critically but it's also one of the things people. It's like what has happened since then. how many. How many films has tony completed since. Then none and i think he's a great artist. I actually really do. I think he's a like a great conceptual artist and a great thing. I witnessed him go a personal struggle to complete a thing of course to complete a thing to let it go extraordinary talent. He captured that. That's it it's a real incredible go and what happened to save. Yeah what's happened. Yeah is not an argument between me and tony. What happened is tony. In my opinion he struggled to let it go. He struggled to do what. Francis coppola says an abandoned. Your film like. Don't you don't finish it. You abandon it..
"ed norton" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman
"Any anybody who's pushing on the work like there's people who are there's people who are exercising themselves. Who knows what they're doing. Forget whether they have the chops or not. The intention is about the me. It's it's it's it's it has something to do with assertion of if people are working hard to put pressure on the piece of coal to turn it into a diamond and that's really what it's about than people outside the trade should just f- right off because they don't understand like the whole thing is a collaborative process of collective pressure on a thing. That is not a thin it is it is a mirage. It's like a a movie and by the way a script is not a movie script is an armature that movie gets hung on. I think it depends but yes. I think there are times. Like i remember when you were going to do i. Wes anderson i remember saying to. You are at your house and you're going to be able to just go and say those words and you're like yeah. I read the script. It's what it should be. And i'm gonna go say the words. Yeah by the way but by the way in that case it was still an armature it's still west armature for what he was going to create a changing words doesn't change the fact that a script is not a film like new. There's there's music and there's the way it's photograph hunter. The presidium quality of west's films. And there's the costumes and there's also like discovery of shit that just doesn't work way And and it. It's a frame that you it's a frame that you continue to build the sculpture around. And that's just a fact it you. You can't project a fucking script onto the screen. You know what i mean. It is photography light music reading a script. Reading is quite different than mine. It ain't movie and and it's this layer cake that Meals foreman told me films are sculptures. And that's the most true thing and he told me that shooting a film is gathering clay. He was milosz was like yes. Not dismissive of scripts but milosz like was like the script is like literally a place a step one on one hundred step journey. He was like he prioritized casting and editing. He was like those are the two most important things fellows are crucial and he and he you know i'm just saying people have different views of but the bottom line is the thing that's most choose that it's a sculpture. The script is the armature the the form the frame new gathered clay. When you shoot you sculpted later you add varnish you add glazed. That's that's what it's like. You know what i mean. And but anyway when people when people work when people's focus is let's make the best thing we can make. Nobody should ascribe automatically the intention of ego to it. That's just not the case that there there are lots of people there. Lots people in our trade who work with a very passionate intensity on the thing itself. I've worked with julie. taymor. I've worked with david. Fincher of worked with like spike lee. Alejandro redo like if you think. Those people aren't ball busters lake. You know and i've worked with With writers who were who were being pushy demanding whatever he worked with actors who are being demanding like but when people are working on the thing when they're when you know what they're doing is is carrying investing and bringing to it Death of thought and care. You just have to respect that. I know there are many many many films where the process is full of of struggle of different kinds even interpersonal creative struggle. That ends up. Where and if the people are all good always they shake hands and go. That was that was greater right. That yes david i always talk about. When you've been in the wars with people by you are bonded. Yeah no matter. What as you go through that -solutely and and and when you when you when you argue even and get to the end and shake hands and go and go you know respect man. You're you take this serious in it. You take this seriously. We did it. And and Thing you know what could be better like. Honestly what could be better. You want to be in a grownup trade or you want to know. I guess it makes sense to me because david him. I have this process ourselves first because two of us. Yeah so we are again it talking about this stuff and trying to improve and really check it. I would say the only thing people who are secure yes to your point. People who who are in their own shoes on their own footing almost never resent the conversation work. I would say there are terms. I would say you can set the terms of engaging right on a certain project you hats it too so so the thing is the other the other. The big distortion the huge distortions. That comes in on on an act. Say me is. What were the terms of engaged attorney engaged when a kid beyond key because because when someone invoke when someone says i need you in on this thing you know i need you in on it and you say to them yes no yes right this name. Shame why and you say because in my opinion vs things don't work it doesn't work for me and they say we're gonna fix that together and they say i want you to be not only a part of that. In some cases they say a ask yes or yeah take a pass or whatever and that gets reduced down to. He gets in people's faces because i fully valid and i think it's more or he monkeys with scripts. It's like hey mojo monkeying with the script the studios paying me a weekly for five weeks to do a punch-up on this that ain't actually if you especially this is what i say. I think it is perfectly valid for an artist. A writer director writer producer. To say. we're gonna make this. I've thought about this for a really long time. The rhythm of these words really matter to me. I'm not very interested in changing it. You wanna come. Yeah and then if you say that is what every film done with. Wes anderson right. Yeah it's like it's like do you want to do this and then if you say yes. Those are the terms of engagements right. And i've seen i'm saying i've seen you do that and be like great. Let's go to work but also we get. You're also getting into the territory of what i would call like so the the terms of engagement are are never are never given context. You know like india pregnant. Yeah stories in these stories that come out the terms of engagement or never given context the the the truth of the truth of the fact that the good lots of the people who have real chops are never in the end a intractable or offended that that that's right only insecure people who often don't really have any chops and who are lying about what the terms of engagement were people who beef about this stuff. I know i agree with you. And and and the other thing is is that this is the other thing is like like so when americans shrieks for instance. There's all this story about lake conflict on that rate but descriptive. That movie was written by david mckenna. David mckenna It was it was edgy and it had a whole drug subplot at all this stuff. It wasn't it wasn't the full on shakespearean tragedy that we made it. And i thought it was full of potential but i thought it had a lot of lake mill. You fat on it and it had this thing that was not being realized it was it could be fellow it could be macbeth's it could be completely focused on how rage destroys a person right..
"ed norton" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman
"A couple of other things that are really related to you one. I want firsthand talk about this idea that you monkey with scripts and i just wanna i wanna i wanna give you a writer's perspective and then talk through because when you showed up on the first movie now movie rounders showed up on the first movie. I remember you came up with five of the best lines in the movie and That wasn't monkeying with the script. And i remember the being a writer and Around the first day you came up to david me and you said something like hey. I have an idea for this. Maybe maybe the line isn't this. That and the rhythm and rounders is so specific. And i remember having a moment of panic which is where any of these disagreements come from is creative panic where you're worried the ground gonna fall out from under you and i and then david i just saying to you. Hey pants anything of us. If we can have a relationship where you're gonna come up with things if a feels weak and you have a better line if we can then say to you. We don't think that one's better keep going. And i don't know how much you remember this but i remember we would get in this rhythm where sometimes we'd say. Hey dude reason this has to be like the way it is because it plays in these three ways and you went. Oh yeah of course done or you would say something like snow and perogie shit and and i find your contributions to be so additive and that if somebody meets you i just want to say on the record with you here like if somebody meets you from a place of security and a place of trying to make the work better. It's a fucking delightful experience to work with you and and it only makes the end result better but i think if somebody comes from a place of holding on incredibly tightly then it can be difficult because of the part of you. That's like lionel in motherless brooklyn. Because what i see when you tell the story about lionel and you say well it's an actor you see all sorts of reasons why the character was appealing to you. But what. I see having watched you and thought about this stuff. A lot is your like lionel. Aren't you in that if thing like if you can hold when you get something in your head that it's not landing right in creatively in store. You're trying to tell as an actor. I just think you have to chase it down until it feels right. Yeah the there's a bit in the movie where he talks about in muddles brooklyn. He talks about how he can't stop doing the thing if it doesn't sound right last and that that's that that that comes from A thing i saw in a documentary The member chris jackson nba player mohammed abdul. What what did he i. Isn't that the name roof. Yeah right sorry. I forgot the. I'm pretty sure yeah. I think you're right. I know him as a player. I wasn't tuned into him player. Yes but in the documentary about people with tourette's he was still chris foreign so He talks about the reason. He has threats and the reason he became one of the reasons he became a great free throw. Shooter was that he couldn't stop pro. He couldn't leave practicing free throws until he hit ten in a row. Where the sound of the net was exactly right a row. And i remember thinking that's amazing. That's that's so wild. The big and i really related to that. Like i really related to that. I the compulsive nece all my life. Since i was a kid. I've had a compulsive impulse to mimic people to like zelic blake to if i'm talking to someone with a chinese accent i start unconsciously. I can't stop myself from like my brain gets completely fixated on what is what are they doing. What is the shape of the mouth. That's producing that sound. And i was talking about this. With larry wilmore the other day. Because he's he's good impersonations. He's so smart and we talked lan. I had a really interesting talk about the the being very young and being so obsessed with the sound of people's voices that you're almost like in a movie you're doing a mental processing on. What does the tongue look. Where is the tongue in the mouth. That's producing that sound. You know what. I mean us and and i think i talked about this with matt. Sometimes matt's very good matt damon's does great impersonations and stuff. And and i remember. I remember sitting in the car when we were doing the stuff down at princeton. A or whatever we're sitting in the car and he was doing either morgan freeman or read with so you guys are all time doing midnight run. We're doing all kinds of things. We were doing different ones but it was funny because He kind of everybody does matt mcconaughey. And i think everybody is pretty good but matt's house maybe the best if good. Justin long's is really really good. Have you ever heard. I believe you. It's really good. And jim carey says was not bad either on saturday night. Live but there is a this is going down the rabbit hole but there's this whole You know you know. I have a cold right now. I can't mcconnell thing was in strings the whistle. He has is whistling teeth right. There's the and the funny thing is ian mckellen. Has that too like when you're talking to income. So yes it's that and he really does this. Wonderful He one time said to me when we were both up for the oscars or something. He goes oh. My diphu might do boy. That's it's given this fun and he goes no. It's horrible because i wanted. I wanted talk. Maybe last and i said oh you know i think maybe you're gonna get it 'cause tom scott need a couple of times and my thing with the swastika and nick nolte's pretty dark. You know you know. Like i know it could be your year into said ian goes He said he goes because was fine. You'll wonderful you wanna pay anyone as long as it's not that fucking italian clown no really on tv. Who then of course. Scott it so saying about this obsessed was put say he was being funny but you with the thing that i recognize because it does. I think is the way that you're misunderstood. Edward which is the when someone is an actor and they're the reputation is they're gonna fuck with stuff it. It presupposes that the things shouldn't be fogged with. An suppose is that you came into it saying you wouldn't fuck with it but it also presupposes that it's driven by ego and a driven by need to make yourself look good and i've never seen that right point. Let's talk. can you talk about it a little yet. I think there's there's layers upon layers Of horsh it in in what you would call like Reputational things the the first is that is what you said that.
"ed norton" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman
"Everybody else state. You stayed connected to matt to me. You know malcolm teddy jamal all of it all of course you built these threads of connection it. Become an and we've done illusionist. You guys the runaway script. I said something like that. You guys unlocked motherless brooklyn script issues for me when i was struggling with that but what's funny but i don't you know a community that's not a community. That's not a community that i built. But but it's a it's a. It's you guys built a network. That's that you've expanded talking more about that whole period of time for you and the way that i'm not sure people know that sure you go from movie to movie as we all go from project to project and build these. I'm i'm talking about in general. There's a creative community of people that you've built. Yes but but what i was getting to is. What's interesting is i. That happened with you guys. What we were doing that matt had a good will. Hunting was exploding at that exact moment. Right and he and matt and ben casey and and You know the the the are they're crew like was lighting up into lake thing. That is still there. You know that that's like all of their thin right that they're they're club there. Click their their crew. And and i went on over. I went on over to fight club. And you know one of my great experiences without a doubt not just like what the film became but just it was just funny and fun and vital and we were making things about without. I love those guys. But fincher in brad had already and sustained from southlake. They they they they were like a you know they. They were a a team. You know what i mean. And and they've they've used they've they have this alliance that's gotten a lot done. They got a lot done together. You know what. I mean over the years and everything and i i have frequently gone through and by the way i felt this way in high. That's what's weird like. I was a floater. Like i never. I never had a group of friends in high school rally complete floater. No like i i. I was always like i was always on the margins and an that was not true in college. I had an. Yeah and that's my my deepest bench of friends. Yes the people i met when i was eighteen are my tightest. Longest group but But in the movies it was funny. I would sometimes like like move around and be like i can see. I can see that that happens that there's like alliances of people. Anything about like redford. Newman or you think about like The cohen's and like their crew and you're just sort of going like like you know the dream. The dream of every actor. I think is to be in repertory company. Right now is to be like part of a theater troupe. That was part of my romance for sure. Was like literally going back to. When i was in college and read about orson welles for the first time when i i read. I don't even know melvyn douglas's brochure. Which whichever is the book. i know. mouth douglas. I don't know if i'm right that it was him. The best wells book is the henry. Jagua if you haven't read that. Yeah that's the greatest. But i i remember thinking my god. He was twenty five years old. He was twenty five years old and he he was more adult from time he was eighteen or nineteen the most people but still he was very very very young man but what he did when he got his shot to be a winner kind kid and a movie and he made this thing is he took all of his new york theater radio people and brought them across into citizen kane agnes moorehead joseph cotton all these people. That he knew knew him weren't gonna like look down their nose at him like some snotty kid that he was already he was already. He already had a troop. You know what i mean. And he took them across. And i like that always made me go. That's what you want. You want like you want people who you don't have to prove yourself to you know what i mean. Who who who kind of things. But when i but when you're talking about community. I like had made great like you. Guys were. D- john curran when i went and made The painted veil with him and another movie to movies with him. Yeah and I i really you know. Wanted to keep working with him or whatever. But we. But it's funny like i until i started working with wes enticed are working with wes. I really did not. I have never wants working in hollywood. Felt like i was in a group the group or in the cool kids club like i always always felt that. And maybe it's partly like being a new yorker and never totally buying into being out there or the nature of the things i did like. I couldn't be more tight with david mckenna. Who wrote american history acts we. We went through the fire together. Right like bonded forever. You know what. I mean like an But he does his thing. You know there's i have great like histories with people but an but in less. I've done my own thing. I never i had to create my own ones like i. I you know on motherless brooklyn. I had to like pull together but you have your i mean you did make your production company with your best friends for in and do yeah Well it's fascinating that you've felt like west is west is you're part of the thing was the one that i most sort of felt like in a we're invited into..
"ed norton" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman
"Come up with the thing. Or did steve come up with the ace thing how. How know if you remember when you first see gotten really good and you. And i know how can yeah kept the who came up david. David yeah i remember you coming up to us and paying. I know how to do that. And what's funny is. What's funny is actually jumping forward and connective. Like that's when. I became friends with david and then when we did the illusionist. David ricky jet. I mean ricky. Ricky obviously was our main dave levin and i went to ricky and michael weber. And then you had your no no. And i i went to. I spent all the time with ricky in l. a. Also we went to fifty to fifty two assistant assistance together on the west side. Me you in libya at geffen. Play the movie. Yeah but but when they work in new york. New york took a whole. You're running stage. One of us went onstage as the assistant. Yeah whatever that that's wild. That's really wild but but david david again really specifically. When i was showing the film he was like this. you know. obviously he said. You're already working with ricky and michael and they're like the kings of the period nineteenth century. Yes oracle stuff and everything. But when i said to him when we were working on the illusionist. And i thought the the orange trick the thing of the tree. The mechanical are intrigued growing out of the pot. And the whole thing. I had a notion that i wanted to do something. Fluid with the orange in my hand and i was talking to david about data and he goes. Oh let me show you michael motion and so david showed me all the old videos of michael motion. The juggler who won a macarthur genius award and you saw michael motion doing those things where a ball seems to roll around his fingers. And and i was like well. How do you think. I could even do like one. Bit of that. Like the thing where he puts it on his fingers and it rolls across and david basically like d. David knew some of michael motions techniques for the handball stuff and he worked with me on that. I have a few things that i want to make sure that we get to re related to things that you've said that i can just come out of one of those is we really talking about is the beginnings of building a creative community that you could lean on and and and who all could lean on you. To and for david levine and me that is probably in a certain way one you know one of if not the greatest thing that came out of that time was that all of us because we were together and because we had a lot of the same intentions would consistently check in with each other sheriffs scripts with each other walk through creative problems and and i remember runaway jury which is hilarious have never talked about that on the show. Them when grisham on But dave and i were at a weird spot. Career strike was coming. We didn't really want originally. We were like oh. We don't think we're the right guys. Do this and then agent made the same call to us that lemay to you. Tom strickler was like you have to do this if you do this. And you are able to deliver a green light draft. You will then be the kind of writers they can come to for. He was like there's a math and say he goes. There's math reason why you need to do runaway. Jury and david and i said we called you because we knew that you had. We didn't call you to be in it. We knew it was very clear you weren't going to be in runaway jury but we call you. We said why did you ultimately want to go off of that movie. And what do you think. Because we knew you'd studied it and we respected your take on scripts so much and i remember you said because the main character you really take it apart. Doesn't have personal incentive. He's not connected to the problem and if that guy doesn't have his own reason he can't go through all this just because his whatever. And i remember we had this like our long combo with you and at the end of it we understood what we don't bury the lead. Yeah it was literally library the lead. Look if this guy's gonna give you said like either you make the woman's car either. The the other character has to be the character on the jury. It's the dude then. That guy has to have his own reason again. We were all young david. I was still in our thirties and you unlocked it for us. Which and and we've all done that for each other. And i don't know there's something i don't know if people understand that there is this creative community in haven't you found you've gotten tremendous value out of that. Not just with with us with this cold. Sort of cohort of appears yes. Although it's funny. Because like i think i think on rounders you guys were the nexus like even though john dahl came on even though all these actors came on the truth of that whole thing emotionally is that you guys were the nexus. It was your thing It just was and and and because it was fun for all of us but a career inflicting moment for you guys you. You derived the network out of it more than the rest of us in the sense that..
"ed norton" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman
"And kind of You know obviously like i remember. We said we shot in some bar on eighth avenue and sixteenth or seventeenth street or eighteenth or nineteenth street. I don't remember which bar billy's topless when when no wasn't billy's topless knows all the way west. Also that was sixth avenue with microbes bowler. Yeah no shot on tenth avenue and in the teens just north of chelsea market. It was the bar. Where matt martin landau. Of course. i don't remember what it was. And i wasn't in the scene but i did something else earlier that night and i was just it was because i was done. It was new york i was done. It was like go to ida. Cool apartment go but i didn't want to. I was like i'm hanging. Because landau i think it was landau's first night right. Yeah or something like that. Maybe it was last night whatever and it was like it was like it was like you guys were there. Teddy was there madden marlon. Yeah and everybody was there and it was cold. And i remember in between takes like or whatever landau. I remember one night in particular that we were standing on the corner and everybody was sort of in big big coats and landau was telling stories about like james dean but he still laugh because he did. He did that whole thing. He's like well being my jimmy and we would go up to them. To this roadhouse outside tour and we would do this thing. I would say jimmy gotta go do things and he would say mark. We gotta go jimmy. We got this jimmy dean tell this like it nine minutes about nine. Do with my pal. Jim jimmy and we do this do that. And then he would pause and go and look around the circle like jimmy. Dean and i laughed so hard. Cleopatra patras liz elizabeth taylor and richard riordan. So that was. He's in that and he has some small thing in and he goes he goes you know i was the only one in the makeup trailer with the two of them and i was the only one who knew what was going on and he would constantly and i was like you know you're barely able to hold onto what that is so anyway that was fun and then And then did you get the fight. Club's script in the middle of that. Yeah it was a cross that same fall across the same fall when we were rehearsing and whatever and he's he sent it to me and i read it and i knew it was great and that was all that things sort of to me. In that moment things sort of click start clicking like in the sense of you know like okay. This this is i'm i'm okay to start to get into gear and enjoy myself and and rounders was super super fun and And then You know it's funny too is like details. I had this very funky apartment for awhile. On rounders i had i still. I lived in new york since college after college. But i got this during rounds. I got this little apartment. That was a tiny tiny. Little brown's was named brands. One of those two story. You know the you know the greasy-spoon diner in the village on hudson on hudson called Bonbonniere of course. Yeah like right right by jane street right and we're very close to their right now and and and they're these tiny little things that are from the eighteen hundreds or two stories tall across the street and i had this little apartment that was very funky like super suit. You could literally imagine. Like bob dylan and suzy core. Dang there yeah. Of course it really is that kind of joint like creaky old stairs and weird and everything that all the time when i walk around here by the way and i see every time i go by there now and the funny thing is in motherless brooklyn the scene of me and willem in the diner when he says i'm hungry buy me dinner. We go in the it's we use bonbonniere and It's that really pretty edward hopper looking shot at the start of the glass in our thing and the whole night we were. It was snowing the night we shot there with welham you know and i live three blocks from and willing lives like two bucks from there and we were both kind of just going isn't it. Isn't it fun to like work in new york and things that we got talking and i said you know i lived. I lived literally right there across the street and he goes. Oh that's funny i lived. I lived right here around the corner and it was kinda like the you know the it. It's amazing to work in a place where you've worked and you see ghosts of yourself like goes to myself on these sets and doing these things and the and the thing is like rounders too you know so that apartment and the the the places we work than the details of it are are so funny because remember the Blackberry wasn't even called blackberry. Was called rim. That is the original company that made the blackberry but the rim had the original little black pager. It was the led screen. It was just a black rectangular pager that you could text on row. I don't realize it had it. Had the black i had by then a little phone from my record biz days like i definitely had no. We had phones motorola flip phone but this was they came out with their texter and it was. It was a small rectangular thing with the great thumb keypad. That blackberry was. That's what everybody loved. But all you do is text and that had one and so and i was like an i got one and david blaine lies just met david which is another interesting thing for. I met david on rounders because you start to him right there. Yeah because i. I met him through a lean keshishian agent who had given me the rounder script and she represented him and i sat and he was like a kid practically and i said you know. Hey i gotta do this thing. Where i get caught bottom dealing and you can you show me that. And he and he said like. I'd love you know he was like i'd love to help you in any way and i was like can you. Just show me shuffles. Can you show me like enough to look good. And he was like alabama dealings really hard. And david said. We'll i'll show you stuff but You should really just meet steve. Forte and david introducing steve forte. Who is the all time. Great manipulator of cards with the purpose of cheating yes. He's written john videos. Second dealing bottom dealing david was like there is literally nobody better. David come up with the thing. Or did steve come up with the ace thing how. How know if you remember when you first see gotten really good and you..
"ed norton" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman
"Then they pay you tell people that means they start date and they they don't want you. The studio is now committed to you. Yeah they say you're committed. And they say here's a start date were booking your time and they had a start date annum and and then like joel's batman movie and he went through this like he went in the other direction he was like. I need to be doing something serious. I can't keep doing grisham. Batman grisham van. He was like he literally i was. I can't everything he said to me he was like. I can't do this programmer. You know what i mean for. And he and he bailed. Hollywood actor bailed after they made you pair play and he build. And here's the thing you talked about like. I was like. I was just like laughing. I was like see. I was right. I was right right. But it was warner brothers. Back in like the billy gerber. Lorenzo bonaventure is. I didn't know these guys from a. I wouldn't have known him if i'd seen them in a crowd warner's arranged fox regency so i so i i i. It was regency too because they hadn't jumped agencies anyway anyway. So i'm like i had thought myself and my big hollywood agent. He's going he's going. He's going you sit tight your old say god damn word you let this ride. You know you're going to get paid for you know and then i'm gonna get you paid again. He says that he did for denzel. You're going to get paid. Then you really get paid again. 'cause you love 'em like this sounds good to me sad and i'm like and i'm like and i had this little it with myself and i was like you know what like that's not a good long game in this town and so i asked to go so i go into warner brothers. I never been to a drive into brazil. I go to the big executives whose i walk in and i sort of said. Hey guys i said listen you know. Honestly all of this was joel dino. Joe leaned on you to make me pair play like earlier than normal. And i honestly was a little ambivalent about it in the first place i am not as nothing and i said i so appreciate it but my i said my feeling is listen. I know you. You got me. But yet i said you know what. Why don't we just. We should just tear this up. Wow and shake hands and say like let's find another one you know and i was like what could i do. That could be more standup right and walking in and saying hey you know we sure this is an arranged marriage. Let's let's like like each other for the long-term right and i play out. No and they all go and these guys and they all go they go. Oh my god like you're such a man. She or what a good you know like what a great guy but but but no. We're making the movie and i was like. Oh because it's supposed to start in like four months and there's no like july or august. I'm like there's no director and they're like do you want to make the movie. Do you believe in the movie and candidly i. I think there are things that could be great about it. I think this this and that and they were like joel joel. They're like wheat. People are lining up to direct. This movie who do you think would be great. And i start dreaming and i start going. We'll god what about sydney pollack. What about This person that person anthony. Miguel you know. I'm like throwing out names and there and they start going great. Let's work on this together. we're we're doing. We're doing it like you want you in it. And you and i was like okay but now if i say yes like i really am not going to do something else so we really are doing right and so i started like throwing names in. And they're saying no they're saying no to people and lo and behold like the time comes around and the movie supposed to start and there's no director there's no production and now ed goes he he goes. You're getting paid like he goes out and so in my mind i'm going. This can't be good no matter what. It can't be good to force a studio dollars. What you're not going to make it blah blah. It can't be good and aren't in relations lawyers get all toothy with and then they look at the deal and realize warner brothers has boxed us in to paying money for a movie. That's not going to get made. They were so angry. And then someone sent me the rounders script and in that this thing and i'm just sitting there going. I tried to do the right thing. I but i'm really on the fence about like what should i do. And there was kind of thing and suddenly it came in and they were like and it was in the same slot. Yeah and i kind of went. This is great like this is great. This is really fun. And i could use it like as an let them off the hook thing because it was in the same slot i could say. Hey whatever they give me at remediate ends dad. And why don't you guys get fifty cents on the dollar or what. It gives me a chance to have a great time to exactly what i wanted to do. In the first place with the kind of people. I wanted to do it with and still get the same dough and make really imagine them. You know go go. Okay this guy's all right and so it was like per and so it was really funny because that was the end of that year and when you guys came out and i went around it was like i i lift. I felt that year because the it was a bad year. That's what it was. It was it was. It was rain here on one level and bad audio dominates. Everything it was it was it was actually was like the oscars. I barely remember making american history. X was like it was like putting a finger in the dike right. It was like a way to just shove everything completely decide. Then it was just like it was a bad year. It just nothing. Everything was like i just was it was a bad year and and you know and at the end of the year. It was like okay. This is starting to look like the fun that all this was gonna produce you know when it kicked off a two years ago. Really you know what i mean right and so i did feel going into rounders like it was kind of like this deep breath all right. I'm allowed to have some fun. You know what. I mean that's awesome. Yeah well that night. Felt like obviously to the to dave in me you know like i said we watched the american history x thing. Where like all right. This is really fucking intense. Then you mark help book which meant the world to us to people. Don't know not mark halperin mark halperin. They're different people and then going out into those poker casinos already sort of and it was great because we could see. Were already sort of figuring out watching and figuring out mannerisms and had had to do the thing But had you because of what went on with your mother did. Did you get to really enjoy the whole thing until after until you in new york on rounders and then after that when you went off and did fight club like you said to me during that because of somewhere around them you turned to me. 'cause it was such a learning experience me and you said just you know you're gonna be on a lot of people who become famous. The first years people come famous. They're kind of useless. Do you remember saying that. The first year comes famous. They're useless. don't ever worry about what someone does enough. I hear it was great because you would just come through you. Were just on the side of that kind of did you get to enjoy it. Then no i. I mean and the funny thing was rounders was really fun. I thought Rounders really was like a spot of.
"ed norton" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman
"You know all the all the newness of everything that was breaking open for me was happening when my mother was getting ill And so i my whole. Mike's not not primal fear. But across making the woody allen film and then making larry flint. I was not having the work but any forty eight hours. I flew home so there was no like i'm partying. I'm hanging with woody. I'm doing this. I'm doing you know it was like it was like two days off going home so i was an an thing that was weird about that. Is you know one of i was like i need to not be working. But my mother was like my biggest champion of being and she was like she was like you argue. There is no way. You're not doing woody. Allen film there is you know she showed me all the way down films like we watched them and it's it was literally like it was. It was a strange moment. Because and an american ejects we pushed because we we were going to do it and we pushed it they were very nice and and we pushed it because she was really ill and then and then i went to it too soon after she passed away honestly which which is in that film on durga. You're it's more. Yeah more like the the the second half of his story and stuff like that but but it does things and by the time. I got done that. When i got done that i really kind of collapsed. I was like i was like i need to. I gotta be like a human being. You know what i mean like. I can't i can't like just i can't keep like i forgot forget being careerist. I was like i got. I got nothing. Like i'm a i'm not. I'm not in a place but it was right at this moment. So what was wild. Was i was supposed to off of. I was going to play the lead part in Terry malick thin red line. The jim caviezel part right Which have laughed about adrian. 'cause i knew that shawn's part and jim caviezel played where the really great parts and i had gone. I had spent a year mo- a lot of that year. I had been flow. I had also been going to austin texas to walk along the river with terry and talk about that and he was one of my idols. Course and i was very Bought i was very passionate about doing that with him. I was so excited. About working with terry malick on his first film in forever and i just worked with meals foreman and it was like oh my god knee. Loesch foreman and terry malik. And it's like this is like the dream you know and But i caught when my mother passed away i. It was like a month before. I was supposed to go. It was the thin. Red line is gonna be like six or seven months in australia. And i just felt my dad and my family i was like i can't i cannot leave. I can't go away right now for that long. It's too selfish. it's too and i don't have it. I'm i'm not like in a good place. And i and i taught and i pulled out of it Which was very heart defect. That i pulled out of it shows that it really wasn't even hand too because if because an answer when i pulled out of it i am terry was very understanding very humane about it And then there was like. And then i didn't do anything i wasn't doing anything at all. I was just kind of drifting. And then they came out with the the runaway jury and joel schumacher was like really really leaning induce. Before david and i wrote that became the movie this and it was about cigarettes. Yeah not not not not guns and is you know the guy on the jury is his lost his sister to lung cancer right ends going after it was it was the girl now. You figured out should be him. It was like girlfriend right right. His girlfriend had lost somebody right and young helped and then yeah so it was. It was Anyway there was a and this is how crazy it was gonna be. Sean connery in like gene hackman. Role was committed. Gwyneth paltrow was going to be rachel vice. His the girl you're going to be in coosa. Yeah and i'm and it was all baked and and i was like very disinclined to do a grisham thing. It was like to me that was not at that time in your life even though you wanted to do the other grisham movie that matt god no. That was later no no. It wasn't it wasn't they. I was very disinclined. And i thought joe was really nice but it felt to me like a programmer and these other things i've been looking at were so they were so rich rich. The thin red line you know. And then i and then Told you like leaned into mainland independent and he and he said all these things he was like. You have to trust me. I need you in this to make good but you need to do one of these. You need to do a big starring. Part with big people. And this is your. You should do it. You should do it and edlund motto. My famous agent was going like kid. You do one of these. The world is open to the bub-bubba. And i'm sort of like going and honestly seven ninety six. Yay this is ninety. Seven yeah twenty eight and he but honestly a funny thing happened to me which is sort of did something. I don't often do which is i sort of surrendered to. I surrendered to like in my own mind. I was like i'm too. I'm too blown out to do anything deep. i can't. I can't do anything deep. Can't i pulled out of the thin. Red line i can't think straight and i can do this in my sleep. Well and something. I've ever heard lights sack. I can do this. I can do this. And there's a certain tactical argument that people are making that i don't really relate to but and like i'd rather you know but i was like you know what it's in la. I'm not in lots of it. I can slide over to the editing room on american history. Acts and i was like you know what this get paid really. Well like like i you know. I didn't paid like like you know a couple hundred grand. I think at most sure you know. And it was like they were talking about like millions and millions of dollars with like you know just like life altering and it just felt like you know what don't be just let your let yourself do something easy right now. It's good it's fine it can you. Can you can use. And so they're doing it the and they made me pay or play on the movie.
"ed norton" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman
"You to be a leading actor time right. I'm talking about the business. People i say and then we get word that you are that you liked the script and wanted to meet just to know that it wasn't all bullshit or something that's what they had said to us and and john. The director trusted david me instead of john. Coming going to meet you. Because he was he was like bryan. And dave. do you guys want to get a plane. And we're norton so which was super cool of him to do as a direct right to trade. Yes yeah even has no nothing. And it's kind of a very montana laconic. It's a very clint eastwood move. Actually it's it's sort of like you know. I care but not that much. That's like and maybe you know it sort of like it'll be what it'll be coached us up but then there's the part that i want to target so we get to cal l a text you or call you and you say come over to my house. We're going to take you to a poker casino. We're going to you and you should come to my house and you gotta remember as i'm sure you remember everything on your first movie. I remember every detail of everything that happened on that film. And we let us in your house and very warm and welcoming you immediately said. I'm working on something. This is the first thing you did. did you go. i'm working on something. Can i just show you guys. Ten minutes of footage without telling you anything about what you did know and also i didn't have a house lead was no it was at your house. I don oh it was drew. Barry humor staying out borrowing her house. Because i remember we walked in and on the right. That's where the mark halperin book was against the front of the. I remember the whole thing yet. So you go and you had. The room had very little furniture but there was that one there was a tv. Yes and you go here. Just watch ten minutes of footage and you fucking played us. The first ten minutes of american history acts oak. I'd really yes you did and you were like i know because we just written this movie and you were like hey tell me this works because you were when you editing it then yeah and and so literally walking you know you that i don't know your goofball in certain ways and you're like us and your i've context other than the three move race and walk into your house at the curve. Stop and then you turn around and get arrested all jacked up. And then you're like so guys you think works that'd be remember just like holy fuck. What am i dealing with like. What's this fucking but you were in this incredible spot. What did it feel like to be with us. But i'm really interested in this right and then you were amazing right. We went out together. Went to poker by the end of the night. It was an and this happened with matt. I mean did happen to the four of us by the end of that thing. We were all like family in a certain way and so these bonds have stayed for so long. But what did it feel like to be you in that moment. Men after those three movies and sort of making his american history x and you know having arrived in california now at that spot in in in your life. What what did it feel like. I have to sort of think back on. I mean i guess we're talking about. I feel like we the only thing that's strange about that is that we we made rounders. We rehearsed it. In the fall of nineteen ninety eight no came out ninety eight. It was ninety seven. Oh i know it was the end of ninety. We started filming december. Right kind of fight club in ninety. Well well okay. So that makes it make more sense. Yeah we may we made. You're right it was early on in in like the post process of american reacts. It's late ninety seven and i. Yeah so an interesting thing had happened right. Then which is i was supposed to. I was gonna do the original incarnation of the runaway jury. That fall but what had happened. There was a lot a lot that year is pretty wild year because in the spring the previous year everything i did had come out. All in one wave took primal. Fear came out in the same. I know ninety six was primal fear. The fall and in the fall was larry flint. At the new york. Film festival and woody allen's movie there and then the oscars was in the spring of ninety seven cetera. But my but my mother passed away. In the spring ninety seven Literally like two weeks. Before the oscars. And i was i was pretty i. I was all these when you talk about like. Oh you know he's not going to do is supporting part in their queuing him up for big things. And what's the mode you're in but the thing was i had just like i just had dry. I dumped off of doing everything because like when my mom died. I was basically like my dad needed help of course and i had been. I had been away working a lot..
"ed norton" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman
"For listening. This is well this longtime coming in a super treat to have a a guy in here. That i've been friends with for over twenty years and who was so instrumental in me having a career to begin with and be able to do this for a living edward norton writer director producer actor and incredibly loyal and good friend edward. Thanks for being here. You got meal choked up right just when you were saying writer director. Ask the chick. I even as you were saying it. I was always set me up. No no it does. Choke me up. I can't believe last night when you said twenty two years i was like. How is that possible. You're not even one of my college friends. I know it's crazy where we're all dude. I mean i just showed you told me your son. Sam is writing a book with neil. You'll i was like. I am fucking passed it because he was too rounders when he was like you said he was two years old. Here's here's what. I want to start so edwards. New movie motherless brooklyn is out and it is a must see movie. If you're the kind of person who listens to this podcast and you are. You need to go see this movie in theaters as it's meant to be seen but i wanna start And i was I were around and watched edward work on it from the beginning. As as a writer and watching your commitment and determination and relentlessness was inspiring edward Trying to understand last night. What do you think the actual number of years since from when you read it to it actually being released its twenty exactly because i read it in the fall of ninety nine when it came right before it came out. I read it i got it in. Galleys a friend. I was at a party in the village and a woman. I knew who knew jonathan. Actually i believe stewart bloomberg might partner. Who you're you know. Well writer director. He he was dating someone who was friends with jonathan and tip me off that That that he had a about it. And i got it and galleys so i was gonna say years. Twenty years and edward went on Our mutual friend ferris's podcast and really told the story in a granular. great way. we'll get to some of it. But i encourage you to listen to that pod. Because i want to try to give a little more context of certain things and one is. I have to talk about how we first met. Because i'm really interested in the person you were then and and how much of this this life you've been able to build you saw so when david i wrote rounders and we were matt was in the was cast and we were just about cast. We had this crazy idea Ted demme said to us if you could have anybody want they were gonna maybe cast. Somebody is worm who didn't have Really credits that mattered to any of us in teddy one day one. What are we doing. Who who would you guys want. If you have anybody in david. And i both said. Edward norton was down east on three. Three movies. had come out and you were smart. You know we can tell you smart and it is interesting though because primal fear I was in italy for the rome film festival. We this movie. We opened the film festival. And they did a little career They did a little conversation with and they showed a bunch of clips and i saw clips from primal fear and everyone says i love. You is also raider. But you know what's really wild is. I made a joke about it on stage like i was like i'd never i didn't change my haircut chain my haircut through primal fear everyone says i love you in larry flint maybe on larry flint i combed it the other direction and i had these little fake sideburns in but it is astonishing to me that no one including me thought to say. Maybe you should change your your eye on the front. It was look in your eyes on the front steps of the supreme court. when after. when you've won the case come out there and emory. There's this mischievous intelligence at play and your it was clear thinking i remember putting david. I'm putting all three of those things together and saying well we have these incredible cast but this is the the amazing thing so they they fly. I have to ask you because this is the moment. I'm fascinated by that because in primal fear i'm basically doing like You know kind of stuttering Innocent right then. There's this flip into this. Like thing. And i guess i i guess because i'm trying to think what would make you associate any of it with worm because woody allen thing is completely like goofball light the larry flint thing. Yeah it's intelligent but it's very square very straight right and worm is the farthest thing from square. He's you know johnny boy right. So but what roberts. In public greenwich village david me really but he ran bugs. Bunny yeah but but i. I am curious what you what was it was their stuff in the primal fear in the in the turn guy in the way. He's sort of needling richard. Because it because there's not a lot well it's probably hard for you to see the your own charisma like charisma's one of the hardest things to see right but worm had to somehow be able to keep you the problem with eric. Roberts's character in pope and you're right. This isn't johnny. Boy is eric roberts from the moment you start you just want mickey to get rid of them right. Worm had to be endearing so you had to be able to roll with him and understand why. Mike was rolling with him until he couldn't am any longer. These guys poker players are very smart so it was really important to us that even if worm as Didn't do things the way might did that. You understood it and and it was also like we were just trying to put together an all star team right. We had two zero. We had malkovich and it was like you know maddie and so the idea of well. Who's going to stand in there and really feel like okay. We have a chance to make diner because you know david. Our biggest inspiration was diner. Where these and and i do remember seeing larry flint and and and both of us saying well vaca can handle that dialect. That's the other thing that i guess edward right. Those were two of those not primal fear but the other two had big bursts of dialogue. That were had rhythm musicality to them. And you had to be able to deliver that shit to play worm and you were able to get over that shit but so they tell us everyone says oh edward norton. We're gonna do this. These two biggest star. And ted. Demme's i've i was not a in any way shape or form like a big star like i literally had done three movies in supporting parts but this was supporting part and they were positioning.
"ed norton" Discussed on The Church of What's Happening Now
"So i come this week with who i want to or i'll come in in six months with my feature while it's too i don't give a fuck i don't give a fuck. I'm not in business here. The book the road via. I'm bringing somebody with me. That's what headliners do. And that's what i'm doing whether you fucking like it or not and they will go okay negotiate for money. I would say this is what i want. And they would say well. They can't give you that. Well call me when you can give it to them until then will just part friends. We'll we'll let's see we could do. Yeah let's see we could fuck. That's the mentality you got time to fuck off like i'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. Get somebody else to fucking do it. All you have three hundred tickets. Oh oh well then you're to have to do it. I don't fuck with your thinking. It's not important what you're thinking. It's what i'm thinking that's fucking important. Not you're thinking. I don't give a fuck what you're thinking. You bought a comedy club. You didn't have the patience to do what we do. You didn't wanna fuck and put the work and now you wanna come in here and tell us how to run a shell take a fucking my friend. Take a fucking hike. Go talk to somebody who has a no better. Speaking of the gnome better. I wanna talk to you guys about something. I know you guys have been watching me for the last whatever i know i had some problems on the show. You know when i first started. I had some focused problems. Had a do things you know. I was fucked up is what i'm trying to say. You know what. I'm saying like before the knee surgery after each surge i was a little fucked up and the head. I'll never forget that one day. I was downstairs here on the computer and somebody rang the doorbell. Like a neighbor of mine. And i was so out of it like not on drugs or higher. Anything i mean i was just. I'm like i'm not answering the fucking door. I'm just not fucking doing it. You know. I remember when i was in the halfway house you know. I'm talking about the halfway house because it was a fucking rough weekend. This weekend wasn't a rough weekend. Sunday was my thirty third or thirty. Fourth anniversary. That i got sentenced in prison was august. Fifteenth nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight so i was talking to the you know. We did the chapter this week on the kidnapping. And that's the chapter that we're focusing on this week. And all the bullshit and i was thinking about when i got in the fucking halfway house and i got into a when you first get halfway house you go to a seven man room but after that for a while and you get some fucking points pushing the three-man room and that's not bad. The only thing that sucks about three man room. It's at there's a bunk bed and then there's a bet so the guy who had the bed looked just like jim norton jet not. Jim nolan ed norton from the honeymooners. Art carney he was his fucking twin sky. We in fact we used to call them norton every he say. Stop calling me that. I don't look like norton who gives a fuck. When i moved to a three-man room it was norton in the single bed. My main man. Our hundred ray and the bottom bunk and they put me on the top bunk. I wasn't four hundred pounds. And i was in shape then and i used to have to climb the bunk bed and you know go to the bathroom and climbed down and it kinda sucked so one day. I went to alex alex. Listen there's a we're going to do we're gonna get rid of fucking norton. He's going to get rid of my going to torture them. W taps out shit. His shoes crazy glue on the phone. Anything we could do we glued is fucking hat to the couch. I mean if you could do it we could do. It was a slow torture. He was a sweetheart of a guy. We didn't let them know we would torture them. It was just like things would happen. You know his car would be flat tire. We just did different things to him. He was wailed us. You know he was like my age now. I feel guilty telling you guys stark. Because he a sweet out of a guy. But i was thinking on that tab bunk. Okay if it's between the top bunk. And you i got and i went them like a man i go listen to you my slough sleep on the top bumped me and alex like to talk at night. He's like no. Nobody's getting that single bed all right so my happen. I get rid of this fucking guy. This went on for two months. We were torture them. We had one of his sneakers. We you know we had this forks anything we could do this guy to make him like fucking think about his life so i used to work in westminster colorado at the time westminster's next two hundred four and thornton and they used to be a mall. They used to go to the movies and there was a magic shop at the mall. You go on them by magic tricks. Fucking fake is and all this shit they also had those things you put in cigarettes and when they light it up to cigarette blows up so i was doing it. The people you know. I was doing it a couple of people. I was working this fucking cigarette thing for about three weeks. And one damn sent mccall. And i'm like fun movie. I should do this to norton. Maybe this'll be the fucking deciding factor so get home on a friday night all the pixel waiting for me. I'm bringing in like a fucking outs a coke. I'm slinging coke from my hotel room while this is crazy. Fucking bbc tc was crazy. There was a chick patrice twining's she was sucking dick on the first floor. You wouldn't even have to go into her apartment. She would just open the door and you just stand the hallway like holding the door and she would get out of the suck you dick and the counselors will go how you doing. They how you don't know you get your. She's i can they see me. No you're inside the fucking door. They can't say we weren't allowed into the girl's apartment but we can talk to them in the hallway. So you know after all that shit done. I get my dick sucked and i go upstairs and i see that norton left his cigarettes on the fucking canada. Doug i thought in stuffed all those smoking cigarettes. When i mean i stuffed them. I got a toothpick. And i fuck and stuff them in deep. Solve the first one. If you smoked over the first one the second one would get you and then if you continue to smoke the cigarette that was also one in the back to really knock you fuck out. Put all his fucking i put all the plugs nat all perfectly and i and went to bed. We all went to bed. Norton came in last was dark out. So we're in the bedroom and make a little fucking stupid fagging. Noises will go like E making all these noises and norton's like had a pillow on his head. He's like well. You guys shut the fuck up..
"ed norton" Discussed on We Hate Movies
"And it's kind of great because for only because they want to be like. Oh nice like some entertainment. Got nothing to do with the resurrection spell or curses. They're trying to do whatever it's like. He already tapped like we kinda thought you'd like to see her be mercer yeah and he recognizes her from the first movie and as you defeated me the last time husband. I want his ass. Yeah exactly that doesn't happen but shouldn't we should say bay shows up here to definitely does and he's fun kind of his thing. I fully expected to be a thing where it's like. Oh we had this first adventure together when he comes back into this movie. you know. it's like. Oh my god thank you hear. Art at the bay. Brendan fraser. Treat this dude like garbage doing here again. And then artists bay is like. Hello my friend. And i'm like see you're thinking the way i was fun. I think what brendan fraser's doing. Here is my reaction this even though i like him. i'm dislike. what are you doing here The movies getting overloaded. This i i would agree with that. But like i think the bigger thing is a is a piece of ass and if you have him around rachel vice is not looking at your dirty stinking. Made her get pregnant with this piece of shit child. You've got running around. He's a beautiful fucking man. Who might sweep you up is a reminder of my mistake when i look at my son i feel like brennan fraser. Pre two thousand five never was like. Oh is that guy better looking than me. I don't think that's something that he had to just one of those scituate here. The actual gigolo in deuce bigalow. He's got all those fish. Yes and that tank. Shit that the dumbest trivia i've ever seen was do you know the actor whatever. The actress name is dead. Fair fair odin for doesn't have face tattoos for the movie. Like what am i fucking stupid like. No did you know that. In the place beyond the blinds ryan. Gosling didn't get all those tattoos on his body. That was just checkup. Jared does joker surprised. And ed norton doesn't have a giant swastika. Chess watt ultra. Here for seven with. Petra wasn't bed. those prosthetic honey honey. That wasn't actually her head. She's get interview with david venture like you know. I tried to get her to get her head cut off and that's just wouldn't go for it. They're just not as committed as others. I don't know what to tell you. I said gwen need your head in this box. Babe don't you have a kid already. It's fine your legacy yield baby fucking faced to obviously. That's until like it would be such a thankless job and so tedious. But like if you paid someone i don't know a hundred thousand dollars a year to sit on. Imdb and you had like permanently like in edit mode and you can just go through these things and just go through movies and just be like nope. That's not trivia. Nope that's not as we go to biden. Listen we aided imdb back. It's a public good. It's it's it's a public nationalize the imdb. And now you're now you have all these government. Employees checks cut benefits. Are god come on man i. I'm looking through this. Imdb you got all these knuckleheads on here talking about things do you guys even know what the word trivia means man does america. We know about trivial shit. You know we love. We love motion picture here so much. Because they remind us of movies Oh yeah yeah. I'll look at the movie that i saw as a kid. That a great train. Ron first weekend. It came out all balder day. Come up have burlap sack of heart. Gandhi's great train robbery. Yeah yeah new. You know. I'm a i'm a vegetable president. Yoke apart couch potato. I love. I love the movies where cream i needed him. My mouth right now. I need to eat ice cream. I'm looking at the trivia for one of my favorite movies. The mummy returns man. I'm looking at that. Of course those face tattoos or faith. Come on knucklehead. Did you notice real real hard operates a tv. I got my wife. Dr jill to operate the tv got put on the ice cream man. I love clint howard. He's one of america's greatest. I don't have to congratulate brandon. Frazier and rachel wasser. Beautiful hilarion child. There must have fucked right after the beautiful look at the face on that it looks exactly like ultimate sidekick andy richter man use. Gather my family around to watch the opening assault on precinct. Thirteen say look. That's what happens if you don't order ice cream scream. what it's just. Of course the face tattooed. Johnny come on son so they. All lay siege by the way john. Hannah and the kid or like waiting outside and like you know they're having funny business and then something happens where the car breaks and they have to get a double decker bus. This is insane. So this is we've cut to. We're at the british museum right as the kit. Ev gets kidnapped from the house. The kid is like oh i source so and so it's the guy from the museum later. They all fucking high tail it. Yes so we get to the museum. It like in the storage warehouse of this museum. This big sacrifices about to happen which is great. I guess there's no fucking nighttime security at the him..
"ed norton" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"Seven right ben. Button call ben but social network. Ten dragon tattoo eleven. That was actually pretty prolific. Who's that was a lot for him. I two episodes of house of cards thirteen fourteen. And then your favourite show Mindhunter seventeen through nineteen to twenty but really like once every two two and a half years. He's making something whereas soderbergh's made a lot more. I think both of them have been equally influential for different reasons and equally viable and And if you're talking to them find themselves trying to figure out like their place in this current landscape you know soderbergh obviously makes things it incredibly low budgets very fast. He shoots and edits and direct zone. Stuff fincher is trying to figure out whether or not he needs to be on streaming to make the movies that he wants to make whether they worked better as tv shows so it's kind of a pivotal point for both of them and it's interesting has soderbergh. What's his what's his peak. I think you have the traffic ocean's eleven like the two thousand air i agree with you. Yeah but fincher makes the best movie of the twentieth century right social network right. So if you're going head to head. I think fisher. It's say he wins that he wins the fight one fourteen to one thirteen. Maybe maybe one fifteen to one twelve on the scorecards. Yeah i think soderbergh's like retirement comeback and then making like eleven movies in eight years has been kind of like mixed results put also really fascinating so six. Three million budget made one hundred one point. Two million only thirty seven million domestic which was considered disaster at the time ebert our garage to stars. Senators visceral and hard edged said was the throw ride masquerading philosophy but was disappointed. That a promising. I act Eventually pandered to macho sensibilities trickery is disappointed later. He acknowledged the film was quote beloved by most not by me status cup of tea. I'm not surprised story. I think that a lotta people had like the second half started to turn their stomach a little bit yet. The jared lido seen especially brutal mayhem as an idea is a little bit tough to to stomach. Most re watchable seen I really liked the opening the semi opening scene with the insomnia. Ikea the grind. Day latte enema as tyler. We don't always tightly. But he's ed norton setting up. We'll call mehdorn for the pot edward and setting up his life and the things he hates basically. It's a nice. It's basically an internet blog post as a narrator slash. Here's what my life is like. But i thought it's effective comic from the road. If there was any snacks.
"ed norton" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"Is he can go full movie star which he does the best in ocean's eleven once upon a time in hollywood and moneyball those are movie star parts like my charisma will carry this rule. I don't think a lotta people could have carried moneyball. He's one of the very few redford could have done it. So that was his redford parts. But what i liked is just the goofy site the norton norton. I six movies are pretty. I don't know if this these are the greatest. I six movies anyone maids but it's got to be in the conversation primal fear the one stinker is everyone says i love you the woody allen movie People verse larry flint american history x rounders fight club just from a batting average standpoint. That's pretty bonkers. Yes also worth noting that like when he does primal fear. It's like what's won't bug is he's just and it was like one of the most hotly contested parts. Everybody was trying to go for it because that everybody knew that. Like what immediate role it was and he gets it. I hope we do primal fear. One day and lego. And he's he's it's it's just like a revelation to see him that movie and the idea that he's just like out of nowhere. Doing this is just. It's so great. American history axes unbelievable. I dunno fully end up doing that at another one that he was deeply involved with. Yes no basically took it over like took over the directing of it rounders worm. Yeah so he's played all types of guys but you know this we did our awhile ago during the pandemic. And i think that's the best ed norton performance out of all of these kind of the last piece of this and then i think at that point. Maybe maybe it shifts a little bit. He's not an a plus lister as in the same way after twenty. Our twenty fifth hour to me is the last piece of the list. I just mentioned just really fascinating leading man parts that are all trying to do something different and feel like they belong to him like like. Do you like matt. I'll do one casting would if thou There's this really weird to studio wants matt. Damon or sean penn fincher.
"ed norton" Discussed on DSC On Demand
"A million ago we were trying to rent a movie just like a friday night. We'd gone out to blockbuster member. Yeah and my in laws. Were in town and jack wanted to rent rounders. Which is a movie with. Ed norton and matt damon about poker-playing and phyllis was not going to have that at all. His wife said no way and he said you understand. This is a movie about russian ballerinas who defect to new york so that they can dance ballet company. And so phyllis was like okay. That's for me. I want to watch this movie. And so. Philip sat down and she watched the entire movie. I don't know if you've seen rounders but it's rough it's rough it's gritty it's down. It's dirty ed. Norton makes you want to shoot him. Oh my goodness i mean. You just can't stand this guy okay. John malkovich is a complete dick in this movie. It's terrible and then finishes and it's over. And i remember any second now. Phyllis gore's the ballet and we're like two hours into this thing in any second movie finished in phyllis as it was really good she forgot. I guess back back up once. The ballerinas never once brought about john. Jack we all need to take less on how.
A Look At The Latest Movies In Theaters
"Movies tonight's premiere a lot of really interesting movies premiering tonight including the latest in the terminator series in the first movie that James Cameron's been involved in in a bit joining us now to talk about terminator dark fate and a few others is sorry bunch Washington post center stage contributor and movie critic joining us here in the here who have program said bunch good to talk to you about friends here in Cleveland how are I'm great Bob I'm great it is it is kind of a weird weekend at the at the movies you've got you've got a couple of pseudo award hi quite releases coming out this weekend you've got motherless Brooklyn right which is the ad Norton new are about life in New York City in the in you know thanks Vera it it is that the the problem with this movie is that it is the features as Norton doing that very ed Norton the actor leaf thing you know if you've seen the trailer a hundred times and I have a you know that this is you know that this is going to be which he you know kind of should the shuddering map and then you also have which is the story of Harriet Tubman I let me see if I may so he let me ask you a bit more about motherless Brooklyn because I am an Edward Norton fan and I'm I mean going going back to the illusionist I mean it I mean virtually all of the twenty fifth hour is that the kind of thing you're talking about when you see a typical Edward Norton type of it is a very it's a very after the manner performance yeah he's doing he's doing if he played a character who has as a mental disorder if they it's kind of a rain man white hi situation and you know it it it depends on how much patience you have for that like I it again my my my big complaint here is that the movie is two and a half hours long and the this is the an ad that somebody with limited patient it's hard to do that and so and there's also Herriot which unfortunately I I miss that my my child had the flu so I was not able to get the the the press screening of that but I'm I'm pretty interested in it in part because it makes Hardman look like a walking talking poster for the the the second amendment as she's you know she she has the arm up there she can head back south and and free the slaves I I I I am looking for that I have not actually seen it's like yeah I can't say one way or the other if it is they recommend or not recommend other terminator dark fate is is the big movie out this week of opening wide on you know four thousand three and is the first James Cameron involves terminator then in the the second one then he turned right back yeah and it is also a direct sequel to teach here this is one thing that people are fans if if there are fans out there who have obsessively watched all of the terminator movies you know terminator three terminator salvation terminator Genisys that that there are Connor chronicle this kind of gets all of that the the the with all of that out of existence and it's just the straight world two terminator two which that's great news that's great news because I I'm one of those who skipped all of those sorry I I I I don't know why the genesis and the others did not grab me because I was a huge terminator fan of the first two and I missed all the rest so I kind of thought I can't go see this I will have missed so much so you're saying that matter does not matter if you if you've seen terminator wanted terminator two you're all caught up I think I think most people have just seen terminator one in terminator three honestly I I have a soft spot for I thought it was interesting and there's something kind of different with the with the with the franchise the terminator dark fate starters there were it features the return of Linda Hamilton affair Connor she is back in trying to save a a young girl who lived in Mexico for being a what being wiped out by the terminator that is kind of a mix of the the terminators from the first two movies that if the if gotta act endoskeleton you know the metal and a skeleton with the metal liquid liquid metal poly alloy him make a kind of separate itself the can in separate itself into two sermon acres wow it's not just one and can I come in gonna coming hello and thank you and also a defining this girl is at a argument human I play by mackenzie Davis who who is the is the interesting actress she was on the halt and catch fire the prestige internet TV are you know prestige SL on AMC about the the ride the use a mac whatever Bubba around the figure out so the bunch though about terminator dark fate is is at his age he doesn't look like in cannot be the terminator of the past what role does Arnold play in his terminator by a persona in this thing sure well I I I don't want to spoil too much but but Arnold is also back he he will be back he is back and he is playing a terminator that has that came back from from the past and have kind of that'll that'll down almost the he has he has a family and I I'm not joking not a joke you have a family and his family is a family of five plus I mean I I get was it too much okay bye I got too much it is it is interesting you know there's there's there's a whole gender studies dissertation the written about the evolution of the terminator through through the years you know the in the four and like the role of masculinity in society or something as in the first movie right he's just as big Bob naked that you'd write me right goes around killing people and you know he is very of what product any you know and then in the second movie he had you have to learn to feel any you know he he gave he did he get them humor and you get them on personality and then in this movie he is again almost domesticated and it's very strange to her watch he that play out on screen it's not bad exactly if it's just strange I don't know I mean but the problem with this movie is that it totally fine but nothing more than that and if you if you want to revisit this world and you want to do it with James Cameron I think you need something a little more than fine but I also don't know that there's there's that much more you can do with the terminator movies right if it's a movie about you know sending a robot back into the past to kill somebody who is important to humanity future and you can only do that so many times with the before before the well really run right right well yeah I I just I think it I I think you could I I I I can't I can't give us a strong recommend in the sense that I don't think it's a much the gotta you gotta get out there you're gonna be wowed by it but it's it's okay it's fine you won't hate it if if mediocre we're not gonna see Arnold on skis jumping over cage shark though you're here you're telling me it's it's it's a less okay I feel like that sounds may have jumped the shark when you told me there's a terminator family I don't know how that's going to play out they said the only ask you one other question also opening this weekend I'm AT and if you've seen it or not but I'm interested just because of the heavy weights involved deniro has taken on a break from bashing Donald Trump and decided to make a movie here with Pacino and with the ray Romano as well it's the Irishman the Jimmy Hoffa another Jimmy Hoffa a vehicle here any thoughts on that one well I actually see that this morning there's a press screening the hot so I I do not have any thought Jeff yeah I I I don't be is it actually out in theaters now is that I had seen the ingleses opens today now so that yeah yeah yes so it is it okay after this is a necklace release it is going to be playing limited in a few theaters around the country it is a and I I just looked it up it is playing in DC so I I see it in a couple hours I will let you get back and let everybody know how good it is next week I yeah but it is it is out in a limited run in theaters right now mostly landmark they think and then it's going to be on Netflix on I think the fifteenth but let me I I will I will I I saw I saw the promotion for the movie yesterday on I don't know if it was the today show for what it was but but I did see here in interview no one today but anyway I did see an interview with the three of them and you know anytime you see anytime you see deniro and Pacino get together on screen which they have done numerous times it's it's huge it's you know either the chemistry is always perfect and and and it's always it the question is about the story which you'll find out later this morning but I'm also curious to see whether or not Robert de Niro's brand has been damaged or diminished at all because of his you know is this political career now seems to be as important to him is that his acting career and some people love his you know outside interests bashing Donald Trump and some people really resent it'll be interesting to see how audiences respond yeah so it it's on that puts on November twenty seventh in theaters now it in a few theaters now Hampel theaters now and then they'll be on Netflix starting November twenty seventh you know it's interesting because I I it'll be it'll be hard to judge exactly what what the response to this movie is because Netflix doesn't release any actual data you know they they don't release box office data they don't release of the data who actually watch it the movie and how much of it so it's hard it's hard to say if audiences will you know will stay away from that new models sorry is this a new model big you're right I mean it's Netflix produced and I think I saw on exposures today it's a hundred sixty million dollar budget so it's a massive budget movie if I saw that correctly in its Netflix and they are going to put it on Netflix but it's going to have a limited run in theaters is that a new model I don't I don't recall that being a very common thing if it's Netflix for them to put it in the mix we asked for a while they do it they do it for the they do it for you know doctors even type movie the the awards contenders because in order to qualify for the Oscars you have to have a theatrical run in in at least New York and Los Angeles or you know one week or two weeks it if if the thing so they they expand that a little bit and do you know Chicago the others but it is it is not a it is not the standard necklace really followed not the first time they've done that they did that last year for Roma and some of their other movies ballad about their Scruggs and and a couple others and they've they've done it a couple times this year but it is it's very it's very strange because the because of the way they work the major theater chains that want to work with them they have to do the right in the route well I'll tell you what Sonny it's a really interesting mix there's terminator if you're a fan of the series of special the first to go to that one if you can stand two and a half hours of jittery go see motherless Brooklyn and we'll find out next week what you thought of the Irishman sunny bunch Washington Post movie critic thank you so