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"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

04:37 min | 2 d ago

"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"They're trying to lighten the load on our little bit and see if they can't get her heading in the right direction a little bit. So I just briefed her half a mile and she was. Well in hand and I was looking forward to run on her to tell you the truth and You know she's she's been just like you said very easy to handle. She goes out there and does a job and got Evan Roman riding her so I'm hoping she'll certainly run well for all of us and and then diametric she's a horse that. Boy She stumbled bad and darn near went down in the race before and we've been kind of letting her Stay, up a little bit closer to the pace and thinking you know we might try to anchor her the first time this time and see if she'll sit back and make a big run them horses she big strong Philly and you know hopefully she can. She can reach her potential at some point. Let. Me also ask in the next race on Friday I. Do see that you've got. Ill upon me a warriors reward philly that has really out runner or her auction number. She was a three thousand dollar purchase. She's made fifty grand and. She's coming off of a starter allowance when seems like you know seems like you know the the summer was good to her and feels like she's With added maturity feels like she's moving forward. He's the horse that said a kind of a taller lanky things. She never she was hard to keep weight on when she was young horse because she was just you know she needed to come a lot further and I believe that philly starting to get better as she gets older she'd been very sound for me and at the same time. I. Think he's carrying better flesh right now than she ever had in her life. So I am kind of expecting her and she showing her form she's getting better with age So she finally starting to come around took her long time to get the job done and then when she did you know she really got it done nice and tell you the truth We certainly wouldn't. You know we don't WanNA hesitate to start on dirt again because they're racist and just an over the top four. She's been really good on the synthetic and But at this time, we'll trying to protect your just touch to see if she keeps going in that right direction too. But You know The headlines New client for me that Alastair Road and pushed my way. Those people have been great She's one of the first courses I got for him and You know they're out of Vernal Utah and they've become very good friends so certain to do well for them with her. Out Blaine Right A. Lot of good things clearly ahead and a tremendous job getting another twist of fate ready off of almost a year and a half of of various timeouts and wins along acres mile, and as we discussed whether it was with frank or in years past with the variety a great to northwestern argument that really treasure along acres mile victory, well done and. I continued success and anybody looking for. To get started. Get going. With. somebody in good hands with Blaine right now, he's got the horses in southern California and and San Francisco and also up in the North West that really any any kind of level of horse and all the different surface. -tunities with the Topeka at Golden Gate and a everything. Therefore, you blade best the lock hope to talk. Soon. We're anytime Steve. Appreciate having me on not at all Blaine right everybody and along acres mile added to the resume. We'll stay right ear twenty minutes to fill out this. Tuesday and a carry over fifty thousand at Indiana and then the penultimate day of racing. At. Kentucky downs and I reached for Ed the Rosa to give us some opinions. And add. Describing today at Kentucky downs as penultimate that that's a that's an ED derosa word. I do enjoy that word. Yes. I especially like when we get to the penultimate race on the penultimate day. Today. Well we have to get lived lifter in there to. Absolutely. Yes. We're for sure is is my favorite today I'm calling myself the carpetbagger of the Midwest take five. Well. We do have to.

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"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

02:05 min | 2 weeks ago

"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"The Guy in Washington that took all the names for the football team that he registered the the football trade yes. Yes he did. Scott. Shapiro everybody and Ed Derosa brought the twin spires and Brisbane? Net. And we're going to stay right here because moving right in is another pair of locals and I've. Wants not entirely local. One one has are has arrived here. One is arrived here from Philadelphia of course when we talk about Kevin, Kirstein horse racing k. k. and the other from the wilds. Of Glens falls up to screw lake the one and only voice of the downs and the Kentucky. Derby. Travis Stone Good Morning Are we doing? Coast Mafia in here right now, move a little closer turn the don't I don't get to look at me. You can just look at the Mike. Kevin Kirsten Good morning how you doing I'm good and we've had a rapid fire five days and Kevin. You've been drafted to do the invocation because Darren Darren Rogers has. Such a disappointment. It's what what can you say he? Kept, putting off, putting off, putting us off and and now he's now. So you you're the INVO-, cater I mean. Here. I am the one disappointment of the week. It's been crazy. It's been all that kind of stuff. The. One morning I don't go up to the fourth floor and hang out with cocker John and the boys up there and Beth and. I know doughnuts. I I I brought donuts one day. Give me a break. I. Listen I it. It was enough between the PAT downs and the cavity search and coming into these gates. The fish was sold out visual sold out that that was a disaster. Well as John Asher says, there are no bad derby..

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"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

12:39 min | 7 months ago

"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Last baseball layoff oftentimes isn't exactly a doozy then. They show the raise against the bias. Which isn't a doozy and it. Looks like their body and they just They continually you know on the on the reverse of that it. Was you know there are horses? That clearly were favored by the the bias. And they've been dead play again and they've all come back and regret every one of them is this race is these two races had identical conditions that these are non winners of two For this was a little higher value. Thirty five forty thousand. They were coming out of Races that was twenty. Five thousand dollar Claimer BUT AKWA IBOM FOR INSTANCE AKWA. Ibom had been third in the dead heat race on the twenty fifth. Akwa goes off at at three two one as the second choice behind. One for Richie. One for Ritchie was not In in the race on the twenty fifth but it it's just there's just such an example here Bouillon was was right behind Daquan five links and change so that was in the race on the twenty fifth and yet why you at a glance the public. Let's Bouillon go with at twelve to one. And they they make Akram the second choice of three to one. Because they were five lengths apart ostensibly on the twenty fifth but in fact bullion had a much tougher assignment leaving from the ten hole and trying to chase home the dead heat winners it and it was about what five six lengths behind the dead heat but young was five or six lengths behind because of the of the conditions not not because of talent right not because of talent it it so it it almost tells you how many linked that bias that bias. His worst two horses that were traveling on the outside minimally even in the nightcap last night at oakmont Steve with two horses that were coming out of the lose vaporize where vaporizer ran away with you know from the field but what it ran second and they're plum. Bego wasn't enforced that was on the turn about this thick path in darted to the rail. Halfway down this dotted to the rail. Impasse about six forces enforced. Ride point is like chief of staff who were out in the middle of the track spinning their wheels. Keep US staff came back yesterday at five to two and got beat on the wire last night in the nightcap pamphlet from Bagel was up to track from Bagel was nowhere near and they come out of the same race. We have LUMBAGO. Finish all linked to the chief of staff you flopping. Two weeks later chief of staff EAT LUMBAGO yesterday by ten lengths so how about some more from the weekend that That you cash as part of the contest run. Let's me I want you to one Darris. Darren Smile Yup. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah Yeah Sara. Smile was Sarah Street or whatever the Hell Yup absolutely. Yep Sarah see win but they ran back. They ran back. Wow at ten to one. Eleven to one You know what inspired you know? Even connection further Steve. That won the opener of the meat raise. One day one was that did come from off. The pace spent some time on the rails but did angle took the whole turn wide sweeping moving one now. That was came back in finished second at eleven to one while we were in Vegas just sort of like confirming that that was not only was running well against the bias and it was one against what ultimately was biased and came back following it up with not surprisingly another very good effort. You almost have to get extra credit to the WHO was that second. Yep by bad. Wasn't that right now. Looks much better paper as well. Moving forward because you're talking about that is six link like you know you beat an eleven to one that horses much better than that and in fact. There's there's something that happened the horse we're talking about a rival from Ingrid Mason and our friend. Dan Dan Dan Heart before. The meat started He said my favorite angle is Ingrid Mason. The first few days of the meat and sure enough. She ends up winning a couple right away. This one was fourteen. Almost fifteen to one paid thirty one sixty the first race of the meat. That was a twenty claimer. The race that arrival that he came back in was a starter allowance. So it's a big class raise. And he goes off at ten to one and okay. I mean Mattru. Mma true ran off and one on last Thursday at at five to two as the second choice looking for eight ended up third in there and was the favourite. But if you if you understood that are rival deserved extra credit for his win opening day. Then you match him up with two favorites. The triple triple paid Seventy seventy seven dollars for a buck. I mean this print. What I did was I printed out the first three days of the meat. All the charts. Twenty four twenty five twenty six go through the charts. It's only twenty seven races and read as as Ed suggests that even if you don't have time to watch all the replays you can read the notes and then just look the last four days the sixth seventh eighth and ninth and and then yesterday so five cards look for the horses that ran when it says last raced on the Chart. Twenty four twenty five twenty six and you'll see it for yourself and I mean this you know for those that say you can't win. The this is how you win you have to work. You have to make an effort you. This is how you have a template for success. Very few advantages left even in. This is definitely one of them and as the meat goes on the rate and the horses are going to be showing up a little less frequently now right now. The problem is alarmed them are running into each other back like yesterday was a bull you on low-income back in the same race. So you have to steal. Make a decision on who you want. You can box them up. You can try the last week where there was only three wanted coming out of opening weekend. They ran one two three at four zero one. Six one fourteen to one like the but as the meat goes on. There's still going to be opportunity if you remember that opening weekend. Then maybe they come back the second time on a class ride where they were simply over matched so the so that they have another race doesn't look so good then they drop back more realistic spot. The opportunities still gonNA present themselves as the meat goes on. You just going to have to dig a little deeper. But they're they're going to be there and it's all going to be based on opening weekend now and you talk about. The class moves that race that you're talking about. That's the race that night ops was involved in right exactly with Kristen. Dave yes yes and when it comes to when it comes to Sarah's see you're looking at the oaklawn seventh which was the Pippin the first stake of the meet. Our second stake of the meat on the Saturday. Sarah's e- ends up beaten twenty-eight Links at at thirty eight to one drew outside chase the pace granted whoa Whoa Nellie came from off the pace to win but but Sarah see still gets dirtied up as you hear Andy. Serling say dirtied up form now. She comes back in an allowance of a non winners a one other than and gets completely ignored. Twenty two one pays forty two dollars on Friday last week and that was also a turn back from a mile to six furlongs so dropping down and cutting back dropping down dropping down and cutting back and if you watch the race she does. She was our the best. You had to bully her way through. He was blocked for most of the stretch and she was. She was an hour at twenty one. How often can you say? What is our the bathroom twenty? Two one You also had The Oakland I on Saturday the eighth which was a claiming group of Eight. Thousand climbers horses. That ran in the same third race on the third day of the meat. Jp Gladys Council rules and can't touch me. They finished ninth second and third respectively. On opening Sunday they come back in the same meet. They run one two three at fifteen to to to to one and six two one nine hundred try. This is at all levels. It's not confined to stake in allowance. Sources I it. It's any level track condition supersedes. Everything else. It's it really does. Even not point still variety is an example of. I know you liked override. On Opening Day Nobre Bent. You know ninety percent of the race on the rail only angled out late in one now that definitely off the pace moved. But it's still when you when you go back under the thought process of is this a real biased. You know you ask yourself the question. Is it a real biased? And then when you see where the the winters are coming off the pace anything off. The pace field spent the vast majority of degrade on the rail and in. That's when you can really start to target Targeted horses and you know you can make. Sometimes you have to get a little creative and just trust it because on paper. Sometimes don't look right but in a certain point you just have to play them. Entrust that what you're seeing is right and for those that that. Thank you know were cherry-picking let's talk about The seventh race on Saturday. Where STREET TO INDY? At twenty seven to one for Doro. This was that fifty six dollar horse. You mentioned street to indy. Same thing. Street the Indy had been tenth in allowance. Conditions going a mile and a sixteenth that was in the fifth race on Sunday. The twenty six comes back on Saturday in the seventh and wins at twenty seven to one under Mojica same conditions. Some of the same horses determined to actually is a is a horse. That's equivalent horse in both of these races. It's just unbelievable. How many opportunities are being laid out there for anybody that makes the effort eight eight to one on one in the first race and came back the other day twenty seven to literally literally the same rate. It's unbelievable unbelievable Credible many of them today so many of them tomorrow and it was one that I was looking for that. I may ask the Horse named always that actually made a little move into the bias and was making up ground. The only horse I saw all weekend that was making up ground. And I said I'm.

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"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

03:11 min | 7 months ago

"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"To see be more from authentic and I'm just going to run this Apollo thing into the ground even though justifying This group has to be go deep enough. I think foundations going to be important. It's a two year old fair enough fair enough. We're going to actually get tight on time. And I know you WanNa want to get a player to there's there's Frank Angst and Franken for coverage for bloodworks Well definitely talk to frank over the next three days What do you plan this weekend when he got Well I'll lightning round. Pick three that and in the SAM. F Davis I really like flame. Debbie and Santos race. Nine grand motion Just left left with too much to do a wide trip and the DEM oiseaux gets comeback to between or distance here. has some speed and and I like the switch to John Velazquez just looking at the losses on her page seemed like jockeys really never wanted to make a move with her outside all the time she has some speed to us. Here is the shortest distance. So at nine to to blame Debbie in the Sun Coast Also at nine two in the Tampa Bay Hamry for Mike Maker who is Having quite the winter So we'll we'll go with Mike. Yeah Do Alpha got it done two weeks ago. I think embry We'll have some pace of clothes into In the Tampa Bay and then Sam f Davis. We'll see how much they bet independent independent Paul But we also coming out of That New York weekend This one in the male counterparts rhames in Just was never getting shot the way that race unfolded another one. WHO GETS to cut back to Shorter distance from the nine furlongs in December and With the Rail I would look at ten independence hall. Yeah Fair enough And I I was surprised when I sat down and looked at this On Thursday night and a fairly unabashed trauma fan and been friendly with Mike for a long time on and it Kinda rooting here For the source but this is not If there was the consideration or people thought that this was just going to be a set of tomato cans. It's not and now. And then there's the whole Premier Star pace scenario. There's nobody to run with him early period unless somebody is aggressively ridden our our man. Gus Pick so we talked about earlier. Okay he he did my podcast and it was great to finally meet them in person and I mean he made good cases this format and it all comes down to what they had on independence hall. I agree with you when they targeted this race. So you know. I guess it wouldn't be three year old debut but you know basically. The meat of the season starts here and So good five. He'll be one to ten and then the field came out and say. Wait a minute here. These.

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"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

05:32 min | 7 months ago

"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"As fast as some of these but a move forward would make him so so. I'm hoping he gets ignored. He would be worth a look for me at number But obviously independent Paul's going to be a big fast around P runs off the screen. There's there's GonNa be a rush to him hopefully that means value elsewhere. Yeah and for those is that that haven't played futures before and they're trying to figure out. Well how do I determine a horse now for for Derby Irby. Well you're trying to imagine what the the rest of the lead up to Derby is GonNa look like for them. You know where it's where you was think they're competing where they are right now and if they go forward and whether they go forward and win crap or hit a couple of boards and perhaps wraps however you can envision it and I keep going back to three technique as the example. Here's a horse. That's fifty to one morning morning. Line is probably going to be thirty one or you know. It's probably between thirty. It looks like ours. That'll be thirty four to one thirty six to one on Sunday tonight. There's a horse that you watched finish well in the Smarty Jones and you can you can. Basically project continued Tinubu improvement the established himself as a two year old. That I think that's the kind of horse you're looking at and you're and what you're saying to yourself is. What is the price you said at five fifty five on Sunday night and if this horse moves along the trail what is he going to be Derby Day potentially and so horse like that if if he wins if he wins the rebel or or or whatever? He's probably fifteen to one shot in derby baby that that's your process. I mean that's what you're what you're trying to do mentally year and for me a spin on that is. I don't like playing horses. The WHO need to win to keep their price You know we've seen countless times horses who actually go higher in the Derby than they were uncertain future pools and part of that is because they're coming off a win and in his twenty Horsfield people like one and can be very unforgiving in this game often on fairly early so but it is what it is of losses and I. I definitely don't like being in a spot. Like with the Tisza law or independent hall. Where they they lose rate then I think this is a deep enough groups that even if they are the best possible that you're looking at higher prices down the road then you're going to get on Sunday night exactly that? That's the whole thought process putting this together Ed Speaking of the law and and others and some of the ones that to have a run and run successfully including Tis and Max player thousand words from last weekend. What was your synopsis from last week? I'd eat some crow. Honestly I mean I was against his lawn is three to five. I don't mean being. I don't mind the against shorter price. you know that's fine but I didn't have my my derby top ten I definitely undervalued the trouble adding the Kentucky Jockey Club. We talked about it last last week and I I was just I was just wrong. I mean there's nothing to knock To me about that performance last week and You know the Derby trail we talk about not getting married to opinions on how good horses and you know just kind of going down that rabbit hall where you should keep going back to the well sort of confirmation bias but you know the opposite's true horses maybe you don't like and he's one brand new these values not going to be there. I'm not saying oh now I got a bedroom the derby future but This is to me very serious racehorse. I thought that performance was as good as I can remember this early in the year. Sure and You know brisk feed rating wise. It was one of the fastest by three year old. In January and February we started putting numbers out nineteen ninety so I was wrong and certainly looking forward to what Barclay does zone from here but you know it short prices. That doesn't mean I'm looking at him again but from a you now accepting the performance standpoint he he wild me how about the thousand words and Roy lacked and that group and the winners group. Yeah you know match Max player Pretty much how I I drew it up. I mean sometimes the PP's sticks out in big big bold letters. He was the only horse figure to be running late and You know very competently written fade out of trouble and and excel celebrated with to So I think would need to find another move forward with some of the top one thousand words to me. More of a workman like Approach to and and granted he. Just you know run of not just wrong but you know South dirty wasn't that far back by today's standard and and He's another one. I think after what we saw needs to move forward based on the top one but I I still like them. The Best of the BAFFLER. I'm I need to see be more from authentic and I'm just going to run this Apollo thing into the ground even though justifying This group has.

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"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

03:56 min | 7 months ago

"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Also stretch out from three quarters to a mile and an eighth so downing. You've got the clutch got unrighteous. Who looks like he shouldn't prove off his first start at mile also coming out of the car car race? Chad Brown is telephone talker. Is the interesting horse in the race because I taper to me he's probably the best with the As far as he's been to turns on the turf us been a mile in the main drag. But he's a hanging horse. Got Beat is a favourite two times in a row. He just The end of the races. He's losing ground to the home. So it's a kind of that the handicap. You'd probably want to play again. He picks up all the pieces in one here. It wouldn't surprise at least interesting and looking forward to the report On this race and and with horses having worked everywhere including Anthony Pecoraro. WHO's over at the calder? Coming off of a bullet Yay. Fortunately we don't we don't call I've only seen Outta here in his holy move. Chacho is actually putting lingers on. That had a pretty good work with blinkers on on the twenty fifth but he's posted in the widest but the ball. So that's it's not a good thing these kind of racist and several of these have been over west with you. Don't have a clock over there but We do have reports on on both the Taj and nine all the others that are coming from From Palmetto still. We'll sing wine too If you don't have anywhere to patient so he's a player in his first race was it was pretty good back bell. Mind in the fall With the bug rider on. I've gotten some early trouble. And now he gets at guards. Blink is was on so he he's also. I think there's a pretty wide open race. I I had trouble here is about five or six I was finagling with. I went to spot city but You know that was a lot of confidence for for several reasons. Mike any opinion on Tampa Bay Derby at all Tampa Don Davis. I'm you know I'm really interested in seeing independence hall rates to lose. I think he's very very good You'll have to behave themselves so a little better than last time and Both in the paddock and in the gate. So I think that will go a long way. Tampa basic cost. But he's been there he's been working on it Michael Dmitri got him up there in plenty of time to school and to get over that race track so I think everything being equal. He should win. Georgia's is pretty pumped on the horse. He's he's taking up there but you know he's been a little funky through this stretch in his races. I actually talked about that. A couple look days ago and he fakes his I caught the little set the TV. Gee Us is near the sixteenth pole. Yes he's I think that might be the reason that kind of lost his. His cop is focused in the stretch. Run drifting out kind of wandering around in those races so okay he he's pretty pomp dot said. He's done great since his last race. He thinks they'll handle the distance and he's using this as a test to see what he's GonNa do down the road. He says if I I don't get finished. First and second get within a few lanes of independence all he's talking about taking them Along with shots Divi for the for a million dollar race there. It's you know it's a derby would be nice if I get to the point where I don't think I'm at the level of Derby Horse. I could still go to buy and win a million dollar race or whatever that's the three year old is there On the Dubai World Cup under guard. That will be where he'll go next if he doesn't win if he wins or runs the good seconds. Go Back Derby Florida excellent. Might this tremendous. I appreciated your route in any need. You got any any player in.

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"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

01:44 min | 7 months ago

"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"By. That was a pretty grueling affect for for that horse and he came to the conclusion that if he ran it back in the Fountain of youth that had another kind of gut wrenching race that It might not do well. You know for the Big Big One here the the Florida Derby so he decided to back off on him a little bit give him time you just point them for the Fountain of Youth Next instead instead of trying to get all these races in four four races a year would just be too much much. Man's holy bull found you so so I think he did the right thing He's easing back in On his workouts now and He should have a prime for big race from the Fountain of Youth. And of course that is it's going to be waiting for them. They're not sure As far as Kelly Green with what he's doing I think it's either going to be the fountain of the Doctor Hints as well. Mike we should fold in the two three year olds from last Saturday. That won a maiden breaker and and actually both a maiden breaker I should say and won a first time starter and Jimmy Jerkins for chiefs would and edge afire who won one stylishly In a race came back slow and then Palm Springs. Who Wins at one to two over a first or Mr Candy Reid Who is going to be a very short price for Kenny mcpeek? When he runs back yeah go? Nine dollars is really super impressive. They want races aces on easily. Looked like he was loaded. The whole wave with again like you said that race came back slow..

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"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

06:03 min | 7 months ago

"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Franco had him out into the first turn. But then wound up getting pushed down into the rail Took them a while to get him back outside luckily He he didn't get pinned in and they're trying to do that. Cost two three four lane type thought But he just asserted his class edge was able to Draw away to I thought was very impressive. Effort he got a yeah. You got a buyer for So all in all black. He was very very pleased with the raised. And I don't blame him and now are we going to have to make a decision beck start You did Derby or the Florida therapy makes more sense. Probably just stay here not not ship. You know there are some things. He likes about Louisiana the mile and three sixteenths It gives them an extra week to the Derby but then again after ship and handle the racetrack that You don't know whether he's going to handle as well as knows handle this went. So I guess when the smoke clears Barring any crazy going on I think he's GonNa Wind Up. Just stand right here and running next in the Florida Derby Tis the law and the Constitution Colt for Zaka Toga. We also should mention mentioned the FAA Indian. Mike Eleven and change clear of Toledo. And I tell you in the end I mean Patrick Cone. Cohn he's also got the slave allante running tomorrow at Tampa Patrick making these horses interchangeable on turf and dirt. Yeah no he ran real well. Don't take nothing away from his performance but You know he was. He was clearly second-best to to to the law. And I I guess they there's still progress on the derby trail wine dot He may just be a notch below. And maybe even better on the turf and maybe that's something to look forward to but It was an excellent effort and he stole a horse. It probably has Upside going to get better with more experience. Give us your take as well on on the sprint race at Mischievous Alex. Excuse me we talk to John Service the other day a terrific effort and the Gotham looks like it's next the one one turn mile and then maybe they'll entertain a to turn race but you can tell that chugs acne and served as field that you know that he's ultimately a one turn horse down the road. Green Light goes performance and chivalry What what what's your takeaway from this? Well well I gotta give those guys credit especially John Service a resistant patient. Go Right into something like the fountain. Have you tried to turn next with them and see John's pretty adamant that say he's convinced it's really doesn't want to go beyond the bile Unless you see something different down the road in the morning or maybe in his beck starred He's GonNa keep in the mid one term but that was magnificent. Give us performance at the wild up in a dual The difference between His strategy and the strategy with the law when his law was down there. Manny Manny Franko just grabbed. The back took them outside. gave away some lanes where I read He could have done. That resisted the temptation to get in that two three three her speed through but steady held his position on the rail and destroying offic winning for fraud Again like the law but if you could take it back and come around he probably GonNa win anyway but maybe not as much as he did but it was. It was a super effort. It was the second straight. Win one-sided win since the blinkers on a obviously has made a big difference focusing him up a little bit and He's GonNa get even better with core experience so I think he got a ninety three buyer. You're probably could have gone higher Iraq. Let him brought out at the end. What what a Jimmy? After say about green light go and using this as a launching pad ad for whatever is going to come next for him People are going to start to abandon ship on him as a as a major three year old without a step forward zone. I I do not speak Jimmy. I think Marty was reaching out to him But the you know he really didn't have he you know he didn't have the cleanest trips but When he got free down on the inside he really didn't kick on out for second by Chivalry I don't know you know it's hard hard to say what they're GONNA do next. I haven't spoken to them but we will. We will get something out of him and the next Within the next few days and and see what direction they're heading. I'm sure they're going to stay the path again stretching about and try back around turns and see what happens from there. Has she ever read. I actually spoke to Ralph Knicks this morning. And they're undecided. What's GONNA be next year heavy obviously Hoisted shows up every single time. But What they're GONNA do next? He he really hasn't made a decision yet The reason I talked to Ralph was leaves. Lucky charm were work yesterday. Work well It's coming out of seven for a long wind up at Tampa and his next stop is either going to be found. The use of the risen star rows go to evaluate evaluate both races and try to make a decision on what fits best nice and speaking of showing up beside Liam's lucky charm. What happened to chance and and as seen on TV that that seemed ticketed for the Holy Bowl? I think right out of the race. He he mentioned the holy goal. Oh but I think as he thought about it in a week or two went by. That was a pretty grueling affect for for that horse and he came to the conclusion that if he ran it back in the Fountain of youth that had another kind of gut wrenching race that It might not do well. You know for the Big Big One here the the Florida Derby so he decided to back off on.

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"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

02:19 min | 7 months ago

"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"We're back. We'll call it. Our three. The archive will be put up in three separate hours starting with each of the tops and happy to get Mike Welsh in for a visit. But Mike some some weather pass through there. That kind of leaves The Friday and the players. A little title You know kind of fish tailing a little bit off the turf. Good Morning. Good Morning Steve. Yeah it passed through and it's still still still passing and there's more rain to come But we got a real downpour around six thirty this morning. Real heavy stuff And unfortunately see they had not seal the track before the rain hits or some of that water got into it then they sealed it up so you got slap on top who knows what underneath and terrorists today so and this weather's GonNa supposedly continue for several more hours or a couple of hours so It's not getting any better. I mean the problem. Is We know what it's bringing bringing his today but I have to say what impact is going to have is the weekend progressive. There's no more rain in the forecast but that turf course to take a lot of a lot of water so even if we're back on tomorrow the prospects that could be tomorrow and Sunday less than term costs for sure. Well we'll talk about The Salani River in a minute minute And happens to be a good field and interesting race and we're also GonNa talk about that maiden special seventh going a mile in eighth Race that has got real potential to produce take courses at least once course winter And Not Necessarily for the fountain which you know is kind of looming but Down down the road before we do that Mike. Let's get a quick review in of last weekend and Tis the law and your postscript thoughts to his laws performance. I I thought it was an excellent performance again. He didn't get the cleanest of trips It looked like the strategy was get him off the rails so he sought. It didn't get into that. That same situation that occurred at Churchill in his two year role and Allie but He got lucky. It didn't happen again. I mean he Many Franco had him out into the first turn. But then wound up getting pushed down into the rail Took them a while to get him back outside luckily He.

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"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

12:19 min | 10 months ago

"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Good morning how are you excellent. Actually last night. No no isn't wild after my what does that The shingles vaccine. Oh really. I think it's still gonNA be better than getting shingles. Yeah it's is probably true. Tina we debated that whether we should have nothing major. Just sort of it gives you like A. I'm very fragile so true. That's that's a that's an apt description. I all right. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA go right to. We're going to go right to putting you on a pedestal. Because and I know how much you enjoy that I'm GonNa because at the did you hear yesterday with me. Yeah I never missed. I never miss the show I know I know I know you don't see see that. He was terrific and somebody in New York for a long time. Trainers have been winning Gary for as long as he's the winning New York not me do you. Do you remember his dad much at all. Tommy aw yeah Yeah absolutely I I believe in fact I hit. I know the first pick six I get here of course either one the ransacking Zack and I feel like the the first episode thirteen to one of his head seconds horse I used there was a shorter price. I Ford Award or something but yeah. But he's I'm trying to think how long Gary's been on his own don't because thirty years easily I mean he all all the he and and and all the guys around his age Levin and Siaka and They all came on the same time around on the track of the same talk retired. While I'm saying but I mean the over the course of the you know over the course of the bobby on his retirement you know I have not and a and the other Guy Oh of visit to was paracel. We didn't talk about his book. When I was laid up over the summer? You know now I zing Gullo officially really started to saddle horses on his own. Eighty four. He'd had one eighty and eighty three eighty four full-time right. He's won every year. A great numbers claim very good trainer very reliable trigger. You know what's amazing about a about Gary is with all the winds. He's got eight hundred eight hundred wins in with sixty three hundred starters. He's he's only had is only only got a couple of horses that have earned over two hundred fifty thousand. No He's not he's no twenty. People may not notice as much somebody say. Well he's number. We gave like fourteen percent. It's very good for Guy Gary's because he probably didn't win for you know as much in the beginning but he just doesn't have too many really good good horses and as far as he wins what he has. Yep Well That gets us to big Q who you latched onto over the summer and and had enough confidence going into Saturday to key off of and I urge on the show and explain. What was there for for you? That other people didn't see I don't know you know I I don't I think comedy me for picking a winner. It's kind of silly because I do a lot of things that are similar and and sometimes they were studied. Don't but I mean in that race worked out so it's a good but you you know it's like it's like what's the but I didn't like the field like I'm really impressed with anybody in there you know. Of course there's GonNa sacraments coming off a a big old rail win and I wasn't a huge fan of the maker Horse of inter stirred. Who are we supposed to like in there so you know when you can get the two favorite seem so weak week you sort of opens it up and and think you had actually run very well in the adirondack coming back fairly quickly? Think brokers made eight an opening day maybe yeah and and came back reasonably quickly in the adirondack two year old and she actually very well in there. That was the race include out. She's on a dead Rayle. She made a she had some traffic and she ran much better than expected. I imagine she was a very big price race and protocol when she came back. It's just a couple of weeks later. She better terribly. But you know maybe I think Gary when I was talking after the race no probably was a little. You know one back real quickly and whatever but to me. I didn't know before him. Obviously something went wrong because they don't see her three months so two and a half months whatever so obviously you know something happened in that there was some reason probably beyond just. She's bad that she did well. I think people looked at the figures. Well she ran a number but I. I didn't agree that she ran. I don't think she ran nearly as well in our third starter. She didn't her second start where she really made an actual move in a race where she was overhead so to me she was just the only interesting horse race registered find favor to enter that a lot and they usually lose this case she wants and trust in Gary. It just feels like he's a reliable guy and he kind of just one of his horses then I you know I don't have any problem. Begged them done well with him in the past situations and Ciaran surely ran eighty-five Byron. They got those talion series closed with big purse races ripe. Yup so she's doing potentially could could get a big payday Edey but she runs the way she did on Saturday. He's GonNa make a lot of two very well with her. That's that's a big number eighty five. I mean that's that's a higher number in the Breeders Cup got right. Is You know that was a route. But I mean she's running figures as high as any is any two year old fillies basically are running in the country so that must be exciting for him. And I'm glad I love to see him get a big worse. Do all of the big horse outs makes a real difference. You gotTA worse like that. You're born so I'm confident that that Garrett will do the best you can ended up going off at nine forty and pays twenty eighty you know a big key to the to the nice mutual on the back end through the Yeah four to one top tube. Second COMPLA- I was actually tied up my office. But I wasn't really thinking about that much I wouldn't pick five. I feel like the no five don course. I like the reinforced. The length and the first leg point three two one warmed aren't paid fifty thousand. Well that made that made race with the D. Q.. And that horse absolutely needed to come down. I mean that was like I was. I was busy doing something in my office so I didn't pay careful attention as I should have. But from my little bit I watched it. Seemed like legitimate agreed. And it elevates you know a a pricey horse to start the big five that starting point becomes a twenty dollar twenty dollar attitude in a seven hundred dollar seven hundred dollar pick four take five was crazy right now. They got it right here actually great value. Well we did all we could to try to With with Carlisle did everything we could to register out. Yeah I think I picked her fourth but she was goes interesting to get a piece of their she she tries she runs sprint careless. You can go shorter distances. She has a chance you know she did a lot worse. It didn't do she closed. You know no I don't I don't have to watch the race again. See how much dirty took she did. Benefit from an outside post. Trial was highly unusual this past week and even the last two or three races of two or three days of last week where horses were not making up ground in frequently in the main track news and a lot of it was trying to run through a very tough kickback And I'm not as you know I'm not big kick back on. I think it's vastly overused concept but there has to be a reason. The horses were struggling and the ones that did have affected closing. We're doing it outside outside for most of the race. You know we're out will you. You'll enjoy you'll enjoy the replay. Then because what Veggie Hernandez rights are very. Well he had he cut behind the field off the break cut field intersecting rider. Well right well what do you mean. Did he put it behind the rider. Well well when I say he he put her well. I'm not going to debate it. No attention he put her in a spot where she was saving ground around doesn't Matter Inc back so it wasn't a bit Ryan. I'm not going to have a yard of your show but I understand that in any normal sense the riot games probably a good one but not in this racetrack. Well he kicks are he comes off the turn and then he fans out and understand what the best trips are. I understand understand the general normal situation. Shaving going out is the right trip not in this race track. I'm not GonNa Watch all the tell me. How did overall I I want you to watch? We'll discuss it later but I I watch it. But if she did what you just ride wasn't a good ride is fine shift sir. But just because tactically doing the right thing doesn't mean you're doing the right thing because every track isn't the same and you put a horse of this racetrack inside and behind sources. You're probably not giving his best chance. Well she wasn't it in the sense of where she was. It wasn't like she was right in in behind a horse's Eve. Let's go have I want. I want you to watch it again and Avenue Avenue where I wasn't As a witch put her in behind horses on that racetrack on the dirt. Stop knocking saying I find your impressions of speaking of of Bug boys your early impressions of Declan Caroline. How he's Faring well you know I'm biased. Because I like declan you know I've I've probably with them for a couple of years. Ritchie's his agent so I'm biased. I'll withhold judgment. I've seen right war I just. I don't think it's fair for me to get hasn't had you know where she does a very good job. Getting live mouth stays good jobs landeros and I don't want you know I don't want to jump to conclusions that I wanted to to do. Well the root for Richie's my friend to how he's ridden he's been aggressive which is going to be held him going forward. That's the best thing I'd say he's done. I mean interpretation turf racing here is going to be a bit of a challenge at times I'm not saying he's written badly. I really haven't seen enough but I think a lot of good winner with me enjoy Martinez Losses Bug and Julie's writing great. Joey start his bug. That would have hurt declan because Joey would've gotten sort of the best roadway mouse and I think that was a position to get them now and that's why I think it was smart for him to come to town to want to do well in fact one for Gallo on Sunday. I wasn't in Sunday. Who who won that armament In that sixteen claimer and ran really. Well I got a big figure. He was smart. He went to the front. Yup You got a good tutor. Yes he.

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Handicapping the Breeders' Cup

In The Gate

09:33 min | 11 months ago

Handicapping the Breeders' Cup

"It is finally here the world championships the Breeders Cup for the thirty six time and for the tenth time at Santa Anita it's time to handicap the world championship hip and for that we bring into our experts one we've had regularly and one for the first time we welcome back Ed Derosa of the brisket handicapping service and for the first time we bring in Molly Joe Rosen we followed her on twitter a lot it's good to finally bring her onto the show so again we said we're not going to handicap all of these races were GonNa pick the seven or so that we think have really good competition and will go with those and we'll start on the Friday card with the juvenile a race that has been diminished a bit with the defection of one of the early favorites Max field for Godolphin so we're really left with three big horses here to talk about Denis's moment the favourite eight rings and Scabbard Dennis's moment has been very consistent through his writer in his debut and then just missed a track record at Ellis Park can you really call a two year old and overwhelming favourite. What do you think here let's start with molly I think it's right open race I could not touch horse at eight to five not as you said not with two year olds you know making third and fourth fifth career starts I mean to me that just is crazy and I love him think he's phenomenally talented could wind up being the second coming of Secretariat obviously he's a freak of nature having won his to really his to start saying oh he's got that through the writer and the debut but you know he's one by twenty one lane I mean you can't knock a horse like that Dale is great with these types of horses he's prepped well he's looked great you know you take nothing away from him but eight to five in a eight Horsfield because not a MAC field scratch I can't touch a horse at eight five I do think it is a really wide open race I'm GonNa look at other horses you know take nothing away from eight rings also a horse who has done nothing wrong also worth who lost a job I do think a horse like scabbard for me is more interesting this is a horse who breaks his maiden by five then steps up and they had some has some learning to do and Eddie neely is great with these types of horses and I think if you're looking for price and you don't WanNa go towards one of the more so obvious sources for me a horse like Scabbard who's on the improve has really done nothing wrong in his career but you know seems to have maybe you have to overcome some some tendencies to find rebel trips of course to me like Scabbard is super intriguing? Ed What do you think well we're we're going to write off the rip because I'm all in on Dennis's moment and he's the only horse I'm using molly Jo Sung as praises appropriately and with the scratch AMAC's field unfortunately is is backers aren't even eight to five now so if that wasn't good enough for you Molly Joe I'm sure you're not gonna be happy with even money or six to five but the this horse You know the maiden win at Alice just blew everyone stores off so what can you say super professional in the Iroquois though defacto second career start I read got a handle for this horse got to test drive them so to speak and we've seen Dale ship out to the who've no at Santa Anita perform well with not this time it was second do horse I had a lot of respect for classic empire so I think he's early the horse to be an in a very competitive Friday car he's my big single day I'm with Molly I think scabbard had some trouble in finishing second today this is moment in the Iraq war and I think it's GonNa come down to those two I'm not discounting Dennis as moment but I think scabbard has to be more seriously considered than five to one lead move to the filly and mare sprint I'm really torn here about cafe when we get to the Saturday card I mean she won the Edgewood and the Miss preakness so maybe I'm not as impressed as other people are by the way she runs ed can she run her race from the rail She can for me either the bigger question and the rail is a question the bigger question is is shipping out west and she is not coming for a bar and that is it's been out there very long Dale with Dennis's moments that we talked about shipped out about a week ago see Asmussen's been there with his crew for seven her week so I am eager to see how horses on Friday to that hadn't chipped in versus the ones that have been there awhile local horses etc if I perceive a bias in that regard that might sway me offer as the favorite I will say on raw talent I absolutely think she is the best filly in this field for test was incredible energy titan or Churchill albeit against lesser was what you would want to see he coming into a race like this offer race like the test so I'm a believer but keeping an open mind and this is one of those cases where I am going to use information as it becomes available throughout the Friday card to see how liberal liberal I wanNA use her on Saturday molly what do you make of come dancing I'm not saying how do they poll she's got two and a Half Lake leaving don the destroyer next toward the inside at third special relativity first half of the year then the second half clearly has talent what do you make of her you know she's obviously you know a a really really lovely horses cool to see Carlos Martin on the big stage I I've known Carlos a real long time and he's just a phenomenal horsemen and She did have you know crazy good first half of the year her her win margins were certainly bigger flashier there was certainly more space there but running second to midnight visa in the VIPs you know other than that she's comeback her ballerina was beautiful her gallant bloom was beautiful I do worry a little bit about whether or not she can run in a straight I'm and that especially at Santa Anita we've seen over the years what was her name the Philly that ran second to beholder in the the distaff I wanNA say executive privilege we've seen horses who may not be able to run in a straight line not get there in time Santa Anita in the past and that concerns me a little bit when you do have other really consistent Phillies in here like FFA ed do you see attention long shot here in this race because I'm not loving come dancing I liked but don't love cafe what about dawn the destroyer will become a from the back and I guess you were saying you gotta see the Friday card to see whether anyone really can close at Santa Anita but what do you think about a long shot here that's actually and afterward oh so is this a matter where if you don't like the two favorites you chuck them and use them all I could see that as a strategy especially if you really where let's move to the turf to the mile not the dirt mile we'll get to the dirt mile let's go to the Turf Mile and here you've got to Phillies the headliners got stormy and Uni but now you've got circus maximus with a real European threat here it's not been the best year for eight and O'Brien really do you trust circus maximus here not in any way shape size or form and not at that price just in case you're wondering if I

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Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

01:24 min | 11 months ago

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"Brian Good Morning Komo how you doing excellent and you know the we talk a lot we talk a lot about the regional programs and Maryland millions last week and they got the Ohio people this week and you know go back to the end of the Press Kyle season we had the two year old and Pennsylvania obviously people are taking advantage of the opportunity to to race in Pennsylvania and drop their foles absolutely and as you know the great news it came out this week is that Pennsylvania's up twelve point five percent in mayors red when I look at the number because I did a a you know report myself of say how come we're only twelve point five percent well there was a is a mix up with the uptown Charlie Brown I looked at him he had one mayor Brady actually had seventy three Mares Brit and they straightened that out there apparent elitist mix up the jockey club so that was straightened out yesterday so be add his seventy two on there we're actually twenty four percent over over last year and actually I think we're we're probably going to be up a little bit more net whenever he says everything said and done but you're right I mean Optical are are are GonNa go where the program is the is is the best and I think one of the most important the things is the collaboration we have with the horsemen groups at at the retraction Pennsylvania you know they they're very good about helping Pennsylvania program and You know we paid out over thirty million dollars eight years in a row looks like we're going to be had that number again this year so a lot of good things happening NPA the advantage for those that you know the track this kind of information and it's ebbs and flows I mean there's there's programs that a that have had trouble all you have to do is look at New Jersey and whenever there's uncertainty mayor owners breeders whether they're breeding to race or breeding commercially. They're going to go where they can plan ahead and nobody wants uncertainty and ah that that really has been the continuity and there were some there were some concerns about the the money that that comes toward the the breeding and racing in Pennsylvania that bloomer those those fears were allayed though and and you know the state stands Harrisburg understands the benefits of supporting the program given what it does for the farm community and all the trickle down economies correct we three years ago we put the Racehorse Development on in a trust Why don't sweat say we legislate Peter's put it in a trust and so people are now confident that that money is going to be the air because you know like you said you know commitment is in for a year your commitment coming in it's probably five or six years and the getting some you know some more running in you know you're seeing that with the with the new standards that are coming into Pennsylvania I mean with the opportunity the Warriors Reward Uptown Charlie Brown's doing Doing fantastic uncle Lino peace and just this we just Dr Solomon at Pin Oak Lane form Just ince contract for Normandy in Beijing becoming in another tap it so you know things when when people are confident that you know programs on the right track you know you'll see you'll see that by you know the uptick in the Palm Mares bread and and home owners coming in the mid Atlantic we talk we talk on a regular basis this summer and into the early fall with with Alan Norman and the match series and we had a Lotta conversations about Virginia and the the reboot of of racing there and there's you know there's really kind of an inter- intertwined network really for for people that that race in the mid Atlantic I mean with all the the various program awards that breeders and again whether you breathe a racer or you breathe to sell it folded in Delaware certification and Virginia certification and then if you dropped your foal in Pennsylvania Oh my God it oh you I've I've said this a few times can you can literally win a purse and all the awards could be seventy five percent over and above what you want is a purse right I mean you can you can look at that horse was bred by peasy Patterson and Vicki so we call Paul who WanNa Delaware certified the stake a young won a couple of stakes in Pennsylvania a bread I mean you just you know you can't ask for anything better what run down the awards we haven't talked about this in a long time what are the percentages and are they structured well Both breeders and owners benefit from the plan are free your award for maiden made races is fifty percents are a breeder that's horses twenty five percents so we're taking care of them to any other races the Breeder Award Forty Percent Twenty Percent for others owner bonuses up to forty percents at parks and twenty percent of pen and thirty percent at Chris Kyle we have hundreds of restricted races every year we just put in a waiver of Maine claiming So any maiden want us I'm sorry not any meaning Clinton but at at Penn gene maiden claiming race it's twenty five or higher you can waive the claim if you have a PA at parks it's the maiden claiming twenty where you can waive the wave the claim when we wanted to we wanted to give our breeders and opportune unity to get back some of that money that they put out and they're harder time and effort before the horses eligible declined because as you know in Pennsylvania decent Pennsylvania bread boom that's suckers gone and we we also have have discussed you mentioned call Paul who's competed at the highest level but the the string of Pennsylvania bread great at stake with there's and Breeders Cup runners winters I it the whole program has has just gotten better and better given the quality of bears that the state has attracted and these are successes that kind of feed on on themselves and you mentioned Pinot there's there's any number of people that that understand these dynamics and are going to take advantage and that's why the mayors are showing up and it's a boon to a farm operators in the breeding operators absolutely I mean we're we're breathing we're seeing an increase in the number of foles and also an increase in the quality. I mean we have Prince Lucky running tomorrow and a bold ruler we have mirth that pre entered in the the only American her while we have daddy is a legend who ran a nice racer yesterday a tune-up for the matriarch stakes so you're seeing you know you're seeing this happen you know to eclipse award winners last year Shamrock rose and Bella Unique Belvedere before finest city year before that so you know we're just you know we're we're we're we're

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"ed derosa" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

14:47 min | 11 months ago

"ed derosa" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"Four seven seven six now here's anthony still and Ed Derosa access to handicapping.

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Part 3: Jeff Siegel, Ed DeRosa, James Scully

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

13:44 min | 1 year ago

Part 3: Jeff Siegel, Ed DeRosa, James Scully

"Jeff Good Morning Good morning how you doing excellent and lots to digest. We've already talked to the J ribbon earlier this morning morning. I want to get your take on what went on about the racist we discussed last week including the the upset which I think is less shocking talking than people. The people are are feeling. It didn't seem upon further review that Mongolian groom was all that impossible well. He wants to me I mean I thought he'd run well but I I really I'd watch McKinsey working. I thought he was ready to roll. Oh and just looking at the form I thought that he would win and he he moved to the top of the stretch like he was going to pounce and then he kind of flat out and I I always had a little sense of doubt that maybe he wasn't quite amount of quarterhorse but this is only a mile and they and I was disappointed and I think Bob Baffert with two do I really was an he's made in announcement that he's going to replace my Smith with a writer that we don't know who's going to be. I'm sure all the the agents are kind of hanging around trying to throw their hat in the ring but yeah I mean I it was I mean it's it's just it's the nature of the game here. We've you see this happen a lot and perhaps the real the real important racist coming up a month from now but if you've you know food for thought as to whether or not the horse that we also at least I thought was the number one older horse in the country. is really that much better than everybody else and amount of quarter. I think it's anybody's game now fold in as well the the result at the Jockey Club Gold Cup and what did you think of the takedown and who do you favor of the two of them coming out west well. I'll tell you what that I I was kind of hoping that it didn't come down and even I thought the three year old is going to win the race going in and what am I ran well. I thought he I thought he had every chance to get by but it was a tough. It's tough to lose a race lightweight like way when push came to shove and unfortunately for her also did come to push he he hung in there I think both both of those are deserving the universal. I'd come already come out west a winner racer over the summer so we subtract and so they'll meet again it's I I. I was talking about this. The other day was Zoe on our podcast and we we were pretty much not baffled. I don't think that's the way but kind of open to in trying to figure out who might win the plastic doors so many possibilities now so many horses that look like they're capable title stepping up some of them that look good or maybe vulnerable so I duNNo. We'll be watching the next couple of three weeks to see who trains the best. Maybe maybe we can come up with a conclusion but right now now. It's really a mess we'll wait till they get the decisions. The final decisions horses like a late and late would add another wrinkle visit I think they're thinking mile and a quarter and the boys aren't that top much tougher for maybe the midnight DC would be if he ran against her again and and a mile an eighth in the in the the staff so that would that would certainly make an interesting well a couple of other thoughts jeff about last weekend the reasons we discussed filled D'Amato just a of magical a couple of days pee wee reese on Friday mirth and Cleopatra Strike in the Rodeo drive and the John Henry able to Geo Story. I keep coming back to it because what can you say and then Sunday Paradise Woods and I ask you the same question that I brought up up with Jay and I asked Sadler too Sadler Sheriff's the other day if she runs that race of the distaff she's she's a major major player and I know she's a notorious in and outer but I thought that was a terrific effort it was it was accomplished under under pristine conditions sitting right outside a speed horse with nobody all rounder nobody in front of her nobody beside her with kind of like a workout for but she did feel the deal as she finished strongly and she earned a beyer speed figure that was something like eight or nine points better than they were not that that means anything but bottom line is she ran really well now whether or not she can do that again I don't know if he pointed out not exactly your model of consistency and I thought maybe your best days were behind her but boy did she work well and I I I yeah I mean you have to go. You have to think that going into the dispatch. This definitely has a legitimate chance I mean if she decides to show up with a game the thing that we're going to start talking about Jeff when when when I'm at clockers corner and and we're watching horses work and when we analyzed the the XP TV workouts leading up to the race between you and Millie Ah Zoe is going to be fitness levels and the one thing you're not going to have to worry about John. The sheriff's Baffert and Sadler is is fitness of these horses on that racetrack and that's going to be a huge factor and I'm I'M GONNA keep referring to the east coast horses that went to del Elmar for the Pacific Classic and God drowned on that deep surface and Steve Asmussen asked me to his credit with with tenfold he learned his lesson and went out early with Mottola because he is not gonna get caught on that element he wants his horses. This is ready to travel over that surface and it's going to be something we we really focus on and then I'm sure in the recap you know after breeders Peter Scott. It's GONNA come up well down. Mars is eat but it's it's not it's not any deeper than in Santa Anita where this is not the old Santa Anita track backwards you know three quarters in eight and change all all day long I mean you have to be did fit to run on. This track is deep. You just tiring you you have to train over it. I think I think it really helps and yeah I think it's going to be very important to to to watch the works and I I do think it's going to be a great advantage for horses to get in early and get a beast of one or maybe even to work over the drag your possible because it's it's not it's it's tough. It's it's it. It's deeper than New York and Belmont Park is I'm convinced of that and I know Belmont to be called the fanny and all that but this track is is big heavy. I mean it's the faith it's safe and that's why they made it so deep but you've gotta get through it and you gotTa. That'd be fit well. Let's get set to look at the weekend and before we talk about Saturday any any day maker ideas for today well. You know it's yeah I mean I I did do a couple of San Anita and I can give the a little bit of an insight today's tough but I like the Philly name swirling in the fourth race she's not the favorite averaged five to two zero six two five in there she's a late running turf sprinter that that I that likes attending through force and they're starting to run five and a half now in the first we've got a couple now they extended the shootout there so she'd found five furlongs on this course a little stripe and she was hitting the boy and running well but just running out of room now she goes five and a half and I noticed in the few couple of five and a half long since we've had so far that the closers have a better chance and she's she's good enough to win. and I think that extra half for a long we'll give her the edge that she needs so I'm looking at number two swirling in the fourth race to kind of heightened me over for that's my play play today. It's an okay car not a great guard but I think we can we can get some value there because she's not going to be the favorite it's excellent all right swirling today and Let's let's go to the weekend and obviously the steak the steak side of things Let's talk about talk about the city of hope I because it it it really is intriguing and I brought up with Jay earlier. Jeff the mixing and matching of older horses. I mean really veteran in six seven eight year olds like synchrony and Ohio and Bolo and catapult facing off against some horses that may be emerging What's your angle in the studio? It's really hard. I handicap this this race and I came up with about four or five that on their best day could win. synchrony is intriguing to me I think he's intrinsically the best of the group but he doesn't have a lot of tactical speed and going a mile on this course even though he's running the tool aww theoretically he could maybe draft into the mid part of the mid packing and save the nangle out and get through he tends to give himself a lot to do and I remember when he came out here for the CBS del Mar last November. The same thing happened. Do that was sixteen. He fell back. He he had some traffic trouble he got. That's where we finished. Fuller Ronnie finished thirty one but but he didn't get there so I I like him at five to one at synchrony shipper I I hope he gets the trip. If he doesn't then you can make a case for a number of these. I mean looking for fifteen to one shot number four on your program. Aziz restrained vengeance. He's GonNa get loose in the lead and if he does that he can be dangerous. TAT upholds training really well but he's form doesn't look all that well you gotta go back to the Kilroy Mile Back in March the finding good but at least it was over this turf fourth and he could pop up Sadler. He's five to one the raises a bunch of the race basically is is a bunch. That's a five to one shots hoping for good luck but I think maybe if he gets through synchrony can win I wanted to I wanted to like River Boyne off the lay off and then John White made him four to one and that that cooled my ardor well you know I looked at him him and he was a very good three year old and he hasn't won at four and haven't made a lot of progress at least according to his numbers and he goes from practice and I'm looking elsewhere. Let's put it that way you know a to go back to an angle from last week as that in fact Jay also came up with and Dash the other filled D'Amato player and here's able to do who the things that just seem to be running for Jeff at at least from what we saw last week while they they ran for a golden gate when he was leading rider up there and I talked to them for a number of years actually we had horses up there and he he wrote for us always felt that he was good enough but he was kingpin up there era and then he decided to make the leap and I thought it might be tough for them but it really hasn't he's really falling favor with the with the horsemen down here and he's a strong writer but he's a good rider as far as and dishes concern. He's coming off a nice win. Del Mar.. He's obviously never beaten this this group although he did run second Mendelssohn and his racing debut of that matters which it doesn't that was way back in two thousand seventeen at the Curragh but but he's he's he's developing. He's he's coming around and the way the model is going. I mean I wouldn't put anything past him and especially in a race like this in which really there is no standout and anything can happen so hey why not wanting to watch a couple of other thoughts. what do you make of this chance Salat Omaha beach matchup the very very different set of three year olds against elders in the in the sprint championship wells twelve sheds lots four to five in the morning line because he's not only the fastest horse in the race in terms of numbers but he's also look controlling speed and he doesn't even have to go that fast my my concern was and it's kind of happened in the Jerkins a little bit then I know that the inside part of the wasn't particularly hit that day but they kinda slowdown down twenty three flat forty five and and he's fast horse and I think you gotta use his weapon and I think going three quarters. They don't have to worry too much about you. Know saving reading anything so I I would suspect he'll bust out there and go. He had a nice breeze over the track. I think Navarro did the right thing by bringing them out early and breezy had a half and forty. He's seven and one third fastest at sixty five last week and he lied did it. The right way looked like he was relaxed like he got over the track very very well so he's going to be it really hard for Omaha Beach the rundown although I my theory about Omaha beach is that he's always wanted to be a sprinter and because he was so good and all the money's going long long that Richard Mandella kept running them wrong and why wouldn't he won the rebel in the Arkansas Derby any may have even able to win the Kentucky Derby had come down with the trap Levada brought his only sprint race of his career only race of seven that he actually sprinted

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"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

11:28 min | 1 year ago

"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Club Gold Cup you know what field size not not gonna get any sort of big big price but but it is a game of edges and you Wanna put your when you think you have it. I do think this is half the time and with preservationists coming off win and code code of honor both maybe we we get the right price. I mean the the word is out. I'm not we all know that talent and the issues etc so not not exactly tackling breaking the mold here but I do brecon any big secret but do feel like we're actually maybe have a chance at some value compact field has every chance chances you know maybe take the the race in his hands and WHO's so we're the but I'm eager to play him and would say anything to to wonder higher I'm GonNa have to take the plunge and then other than that kind of truckee when when I looked around I mean I think imperial hint it's is awfully formidable again. No big secret and I I will say as much as we talk about Saturday these two year old races at Santa Anita today obviously they go through Baffler but I'm really keen to to see how this American Pharaoh shakes out with what they ring and the share Erakor and I I know Dale Roman I I know we coping the eight rings airmail so he can get a better price on Breeders Cup Day in those big board with dentists moment but I think we're already starting to get maybe the feel of the two separate in themselves and being talking horses going into the Breeders Cup I it's just a watch for me because I think the board just going to gravitate to the obvious to but we're looking forward to the thing what it tells us about the juvenile trail and onto the derby. I agree I I. I'm excited about that race as as any on the weekend that should be very should be really very entertaining tonight and for those that haven't sat down with it yet. You're looking at a post time time eight thirteen. No I take that back. That's that's the Saturday concert let's switch to the Friday edition there we go. I got so whereas I said I got tons of seven forty eastern time for the American Farrell go and my parting shot would be yes the mandatory payout Saturday so a lot of people being involved Sunday at Gulfstream but it is closing day so that Sunday picnics no jackpot condition either so those looking for a fifteen percent twenty seven pick six on Sunday the mandatory payout even with no carryover carryover think there should be some opportunity there well so looking forward to a great weekend coast to coast at best lock. We'll talk to you and James next week EJ xt to at the rose everybody and Watch ed and Joe on the Churchill Feet they've had a great September meat. We're going to talk about the readers cup meet at Santa Anita Right now Jeff Siegel GonNa join us and Jeff courtesy of Express Bat on a regular basis through Breeders Cup at least and it's always a pleasure when we get a chance to talk to the brain the one and only Jeff Siegel good morning art good morning how you doing jeff terrific and looking forward to these conversations. Because of course you know your approach to the game you're just breath of experience and and understanding you've got such a such a level approach and the way you know you you pick cout horses the way you suggest people play a it's just been proven so consistently over the years I and you know people that are learning the game in particular can take a lot from your approach. I appreciate that yeah. We have a good time out here. I've been doing it forever forever and it's so funny because I was thinking about this that there is a horse that's running in the add named pee wee reese. Now some of you older fan remember P we pay for the Brooklyn dodgers and now he was my first autograph when I was a kid dodgers moved to and it just goes to show you I have been around a long time faith on that but it's it's a fun thing I still enjoy well of course Nick Nick Alexander. He's named after NAPA joy so I I'll tell you since you brought this up. One of my first autographs came at our country club. When I was a kid there was a I forget even who threw the event Frankie Frisch Frankie fresh yeah unbelievable remember number him so he he was old? When I met Him Gas House gang way way back way he believable the twenty th that's the gas house gang and one of the Great Really Great erase it Baseball Jeff this me I started the morning talking to Jay Primm and and obviously the the pressures and the difficulties of the winter and spring made it very hard to enjoy playing Santa Anita and I? I don't think I'm being unfair saying that what's your feeling just coming in overall to the the fall and leading toward Breeders Cup. I'm optimistic that it's going to be a good meeting. I you know the things is that the management has done here with regards to pre-entry inspection really making sure that every horse is going to run. Has I've been you know examined to a point where the chances of them being found enough to perform their best is is there. The race track looks great. We've hadn't had any issues in the morning and you know here at Santa Anita and especially in the west coast printers like the train their horses and we we got a hundred more works day and knock on wood so far so good and I I'm optimistic you know I really am. I think that again the management has done everything they can to make sure that horses are I in Prime and hope that it carries over to the meeting absolutely and for for those that are are playing Santa Anita. Maybe a bypass the the winter and spring I know my own handle handle. It really was cut back to be honest and at literally since the time I started doing the show fifteen years ago Jeff I became a huge fan of I had never bet California on a regular basis and Hollywood Santa Anita became a real staple staple and and I really had a lot of confidence in in my opinions in in southern California in part using using anti Harrington's workout incites the addition of course in recent years of what XP TV he has brought to the party with the workouts and of course HR TV before X. bTV you and and Zoe and everybody give people such a leg up when it comes to you know seeing how horses are coming up to we'll race fold that into into your overall handicapping theme well. It's especially important at Santa Anita now maybe more so than ever because the racetrack is considerably deeper and slower and hopefully safer than it's ever been so you're gonNA get a lot of horses that maybe labor over it and aren't quite ready to maybe not quite fit enough. Beginning needs to be fit on this racetrack and I think the workout so maybe more important than ever because not only does it. Tell you who can run but also tell you tells you who's fit and you have to be fit and it's okay. I don't care really how fast they run as long as they it safe but on this race track and I know other trainers make references all the time where you know sometimes you have to have a racer too and and watching the workouts at least you have an idea. Dis To who might be ready and who might be away well. Let's dive in and is there on that topic I mean when you say that and a- and knowing particularly after del Mar noting some of the way in which Doug O'Neil and John Sadler I I think have taken clues in recent years for Baffert's workout patterns and I see Sadler O.`Neil working horses five-furlong five foot long six furlongs and even seven furlongs emulating Baffert's approach and you want fit horses those kinds kinds of works deliver yeah and I think what trainers what I've seen anywhere to a China that are maybe going a little little farther than they would in in the morning but not as fast nobody wants to you know to to afterwards horses too much in the morning and then you wanna say them for the afternoon so yeah I noticed notice that you you don't see very many fast works anymore. Even from the Baffert Barn if you can go minute change for a minute and changed hours like in fifty eight and change a few years back and recorders and fourteen used to be three quarter quarter than eleven or twelve so I think the trainers are are aware of the fact that they don't want to really work there is hard and fast but they have to have fit so longer slower works are what you're going to get and when I watched the workouts again you wanna see how they finish from the quarter pole home and seeing pick it up and he seems to be galloping you know well and who seems to be ready and and also who seems to be handling tracks although down bars pretty deep itself certain courses here that that really thrive over the softer deeper surface as opposed to the deal backtrack that we used to have a AH we're going to see to grade one two year old races today with the chandelier in the American Pharaoh but talk about your approach to two year old races where where you've got maybe a couple of second time starters and a bunch of I certainly this second half of the year plenty selenium two year old racing to come over the next six weeks. I mean you can look at the workout times but you you really should try if you can if you have the ability to to watch the workouts now I don't expect too many people can actually go out and watch them themselves but at XP TV Dot Com we try to record them and then post them the video would do I think the guys in the in the upstairs and the camera and the people who edit them and then them do a great job and you really we can you know you.

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"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

02:37 min | 1 year ago

"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

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"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

13:43 min | 1 year ago

"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"'cause we see those horses obviously at turf win the winner that they come in Kim London and we saw Churchill yesterday and you know the main track there for Ohio so I would say probably has better main track horses day to day about terror. Is Your only option in Ohio and you know guys. Who Do you know maybe WanNa get a race and I've even seen Wesley worship some two year olds up there so yeah the Turpin fell terror? I'm not GonNa make that mistake again right after got survey job good that was that was a good aside all right so today with Miguel main. I'm for and the ten in the fifth us. He's he's the greatest and a big personality the ten she wants what's more in the fifth today. Churchill Fred all right. Let's talk about Saturday's action and I suppose Philadelphia gets us going can start park drive a dogwood tab as well but no problem start power to other the catoon and and I'm one of these sometimes questions needing a restricted grade one tree or this late in the year but all is forgiven when you're able to put it feels like this together I mean this. Is You know other than I Columbia Road but you're never gonNA get them all. this is the field you ought to sort out this division and I'm GonNa go with the oaks winner you know maybe a little bit of a home or play but it just seems what's her and this you know sort of eight and a half for a long race and with the other the obvious speed on the outside. If if Iran reiter appropriately I think she can run the from the outside offer feet and then maybe you have enough to keep on a then Parana made me look foolish the ACORNS so I'm perfectly prepared for that to happen happen again but she will be the favorite Steve and you know here's a chance where we can you know two three times the price on a Kentucky oaks winner who granted it's not wonder last to but also would be impossible to say. She's done anything wrong either so with the price I'm Gonna I'm GonNA STICK WITH THE O. Silly and love the connection indeed easy to root for her owners from Columbus and just you know horse. I like to cheer on as well but things you've been here at the eight and a half so yeah I like it all right. What about the Derby the derby super compelling well? Unfortunately I'll be so you know with the the big maximum-security out who who I would pick to be honest I do think he's the best this group but he's out in now's a chance for someone else to jump up and I think think jump up could come from spun Iran's Mister Money certainly is done nothing wrong in his assent has been magnificent to watch. I've been there live for two of his races with maximum security out. I think he'll he'll be right there. With war. Then improbable is a favor and I think now's a chance the jump in and Spun Doron whose Smarty Jones got a one ten personnel speed rating and and I have not checked out so what do you got on some of the more designer figures earshot. I'm guessing we were probably a little higher than others on that but nevertheless that signals some real talent and we won't get eight to one cause maximum security the Dow but it's the that they should we lose. I think we lost. We lost lost their minute Ed. I picked fun to run in the Pennsylvania Derby that yeah that that part that part we got I I didn't I didn't get all the rationale no but I can certainly I can certainly understand what what do you. What do you think of this scenario? What do you expect to happen? I mean I'm the the pace ratings the person that puts out it's conceivable even that Mr money could be on the front with you know little further outside of improbable and war. Will I just think think based on what we've seen. In how train this horse they liked the target so I'm really interested in the cat and mouse and we know that Mike Smith not afraid to take race excuse people if he thinks he can war will certainly with what we saw on the previous figures to be forwardly placed so I kinda WanNa pot and just say I think that's part of what makes this such. A compelling race is these horses have shown some professionalism to ray even though they have the speed to go on with it so I I meager to see how that plays out yesterday in an extensive conversation Steve Asking Steve made the the logical point about the way baffert operates in a situation like this and how how how likely it would it would be for Smith to take control and and just go and and because he's going to absolutely depending on how the how the and how parks is playing I mean typically the inside is never good place to be but there have been years Pennsylvania Derby Day when the when in fact the inside has been okay so they'll judge that and I imagine that that they at least go get position Titian and we'll see you know we saw Smith who to do with the Kinsey in the eligible no in the Whitney okay the way in which the way in which he gained early position let horses go on and then came around that might be the plan with improbable but you know what Gates has does with a horse that just went fifty eight and one recent work. Mark granted he did it. He did it so effortlessly. it just feels like Mr Money is almost certain to break running thing and then it comes down to what Gaffe Leone does with Worrell well it. That's the intrigue and this is. This is an example of a situation situation where you don't necessarily need twelve horses Ya got you got five major horses here even without maximum security purity who would have been six. You've got five horses and it's going to be really interesting. How they go out of the out of the gate? You know I absolutely and you know good good on power. So we've heard a lot of promises from a lot of tracks about the type of horses they could get ah with expanded money and and in this case they absolutely now they've lived up to the hype with what they've turned this day into on this part of the calendar under and to your point about you know you don't need twelve horses this time of year you know for better or worse. Etcetera naturally want twelve horses because we get to see code Arnor in the Jockey Club which you know is getting to be rare trees seeing some of these horses take on older on that stage which is an an extremely worthy stage for any horse so it's good to spread out maybe this time you're obviously fulfilled or desired you know more up in the not but in this case terms of separating the division this is what we're left with this year and make the next few weeks really citing well and this has been a race and it's not it's not like this race has not had big fulfills historically be they generally. It's generally been a bulky size field. The be an honest I mean I was. I was so high maximum security. I kinda understood why you know with him. Pointing to this race that they didn't so you know get fillers and then he came out and whatever but I mean the way Mr Money and improbable been running the summer you yeah I get it well and this is also the time of year that you go back and you pull up the charts from from the triple crown. Perhaps the big great one perhaps in and from the triple crown itself and you begin to also say to yourself you know where where did some of these horses disappeared too well. I'll I'll give you a horse. Where's spinoff spinoff won that race at Saratoga and then he's been rumored for everything since and he's nowhere where is he took a good question? I don't I mean there's there's there's a whole bunch I mean we know about we know about the top end of of that chart but yeah there's quite a few that ended up you know on the sidelines we we know we're taxes and so forth and and you know Tacitus Code of honor you just referenced but we think here here's the Derby field country houses is done for the year game winner now done for the year master fencer went home plus get Parfait Win Win win cutting humor by my standards for coma boaty Audie Express roadsters kind of a reappearing here and there long-range Taty spin off a grey oriole great magicians gone on and been fine He's had a good second half but you know there's there's there's there's six derby horses that basically have been laid lied that are sitting by the side of the road with a spare tire yeah well hello part of the front of the Golfer. Meat is the reemergence and Santa Anita with the West Coast sources but yeah some of these horses especially from the prep season that didn't actually make the Derby Kinda you know not ready for prime time and speaking of which it's been on my mind since you mentioned family recruiting ready of the Horse I remember watching the two year old year class that was classic Empire Coming Out Party. that that was in assimilating upper here ranted against allowance company but the seasons that horses had you know that that's one of those you kind of reported to the big ones sooner rather than later Deja Deja. WHO's working the board? She's she just pitched in with chocolate Martini on the other. I decided to ledger but that's a good question. What did Chocolate Martini disappeared too? She ran then after they. Oh so I don't know I I've lost track of a we'll have to we'll have a question for yeah for all right. Good one DEJA Deja. was that a phone call or or was that because that came out of left Field Indiana oh I can't I don't recall actually that was Deja that that was was her favourite horse from the first half of the year for you. I love the Ano- so I I do like three plan in the you too and obviously pick Sharon getty empress on top but I think you know looking at Matt eight to one range street bands the the horse to get into the number so you would you james both landing on street band so yeah and she's I think she will be around eight to one and you know that's one of those rose where were on a street band. Can still you know maybe get an overlay pricing attacked. what else any others last one will be the dog would hear Churchill Kovac obviously eating introduction avedis Darren getting verse lasts out but I I'm really intrigued by e the and cutting back champagne anyone think that's kind of a cagey move for him and you know horse to WHO's had had had some buzz around her. You know especially coming into into the okay so I'm I'm interested in that cutback here all right on on on number power she's got. She's got to improve but I get it. She certainly the other you know. She's certainly the option so we'll see what what the board says. I actually was surprised to see four to one on the morning line. I thought you'd be a little higher after last so we're at the board dictate well Ed. I appreciate it big really thought weekend. They told the James the racing at Churchill has been excellent already and it continues today tomorrow and Sunday and then into next week so we'll catch up soon good luck this weekend all right. Thank you all your listeners. have some fun this weekend. EJ Xt to add durose everybody. Let's take a break here and then we found hammer and there was clearly telecommunication mysteries at work but he's ready to go rick angrily joins US next.

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"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

16:56 min | 1 year ago

"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Appeal. It's all and Ooh they don't okay saw the news from the Godolphin team yesterday but thunderstorm is as you can tell where this was headed. thunder snow is not going to be able to participate in the Breeders Cup and you you just with with all the delays and and not being involved it in the you know in the campaign that they were hoping for him so they ah the word is that he'd been sororities hoping that they'll let him go on with under snow as soon as he's ready to resume training and that could be campaign that involves the Winter Carnival Bolton Dubai and another go why not put the at the World Cup so too bad thunder I though thunder snow certainly wormed his way it's a lot of people's uh parts and so forth Johnny Johnny de Rickaby Laffy. We'll see Johnny tomorrow tomorrow at Philly well. We're having hammered hammer texted me and so I don't know what exactly yeah he needed back about fifteen minutes ago. He needed a couple of minutes before we could reach him so Maybe what we'll do. Instead is go in this direction and let we'll try to flip flop Rosa for instead all right. Let's try that everybody the the typical go ten o'clock second our people they they all backed it up and wanted to go in the third hour tonight for whatever reason it happens a a couple of pieces. I can slip it as well. We'll save that for Hammer. The obvious saw this after the discussion we had about last week about the jockey club proposing placing caps on the books of bears that stallions could cover the news came yesterday. Jockey Club is signed on a what seems like a very interesting company from I did did this morning actually just a little bit of poking around and plus vital limited their Irish and and they are genome specialists and they're going to I guess on an ongoing basis I it wasn't like they commissioned them for a study or for a certain consulting they they're going to basically stay stay on with this project and help with research and offer insight on this topic Dr Emma Line Hill and and I am certainly looking forward to having a chance to reach out to them and to Dr Hill because I as I said with those conversations you know all last week that we were we were talking I thought thought that this is just fascinating. What the the effect on the breed and and you know the inbreeding versus how cross and so so forth so the Doctor Hill appears 'cause I I said last week I said do you know of any buddy in that arena and the Jockey Club went out and found found somebody so also the news front you may have seen headlines about the aw Massachusetts thoroughbred Horseman Association sending out a press release about a project in Rowley Bass which is sort of a kind of middle of nowhere in Massachusetts? It's it's a that's a part of the it's part of the state that nobody nobody really nobody really. I don't know how anybody from Raleigh but yeah it's up toward it's just outside of Hazel and and up toward you know up toward the corner toward Maine and New Hampshire north of you know well north of Boston and north of the Cape but I don't read too much into this the proposal at its very well intentioned but it you know that that thoroughbred this Massachusetts Thurber Horsemen's association is really a non. It's really a non entity that it's really not the the negotiating the authentic Massachusetts who sits policeman so this this is not the this is not going to go anywhere essentially essentially and there's ED derosa standing. Hey Good Morning Good morning excellent excellent ah I expected to talk to you in about half an hour but we'll take it out air I am. I appreciate the early bird when I'm at the traffic. No sweat here sure well. We just talked to James so usually I break you guys up but a couple of the top couple of the topics what's that we hit with James to what was your impression at Dennis's moment and how does he. How does he jump at era? Yeah I'm impressed. I tried to beat them. just happy and honest you know I just thought it two to five or three to five wherever wherever he ended up being you you know maybe given the gate issues and mile and a sixteenth positions important to Churchill. There's worth taking a shot I was impressed with the professionalism I still don't think we've seen from him quite the the speed performance. You know. We're like wow this is fast is we've seen in a while. I haven't seen that from him but the professionalism in that effort I thought was impressive. I I was watching. I read pretty closely especially on replay and he he just seemed to respond to every q i read gave them including. It's the end Iran pretty much shut down on them and he was still running but that was my impression is like man you know this is a horse who can handle a ship to the West Coast Breeders Cup and as we go down the Derby trail oh you know bigger crowds and fuller field so I I was left impressed with his mind still waiting. You know I think for all the Buzz I think we're saying okay. When are you going to be really fast and we haven't seen that yet but knows he has a rocket ship so I'll be interested to see how his training lead up to the Breeders Cup and of course the runner up to we talked yesterday that he can easily at a very excited about what scabbard did in there and you know for for horses that were making making a transition to to turns that that was what you WanNa see agreed and and I go back really to is since debut which was Churchill well he he sort of made that chandelier move which Churchill can be a an absolute punisher horses they look like they're looming up on the outside around the turn and they just flat out and Hang the rail can be very kind in those situations and on debut he ranged up and then just kept on going and and blue by so that's another horse where you know when you look at what he's done is a is a two year old as exciting as you know the performances themselves so their Iroquois very likely to have a say come breeder of time yeah I I agree and it'll be fun is then get through the west coast and the East Coast also the Woodbine two year old events and then you start shuffling the deck and Mixing and Matching Coaching and that's that's when it gets interesting what any other observations from the weekend woodbine or otherwise I mean I'll say I'm not sure my my tweet with the trainers at Church oh but the parody there in the barn area absolutely incredible which of course a testament to the condition both Ben Huffman's put together for these big purses but we've had thirty nine races Steve what forty winners because there was a dead he and thirty four individual trainers that one those forty races enter the first four days of the me now trainer has more than two wins with which I think is incredible and you look at some of these names probably not to foreign to those who follow the Kentucky Circuit for years but it makes handicapping these races exciting knowing that you can look beyond the obvious name pains and that's no slight on that and they're fantastic horsemen and their leaders in the barn area for a reason but you know to to see you know a Tommy bamber come I'm in with the layoff horse and win and others drawn a blank but just you know names you know right there with all the other thirty four has it's been a tree so looking for more that says the meat wines down and I actually I've? I've got the winters book I got the winners book here and I had I had not seen that tweet but it is it is intriguing and you look between the invaders and you know having being you know having guys like George Paraffin and Peter Miller wind guys like that that are that are coming in from other parts of the country Stanley Hof had then you've got the the locals but I mean virtually everybody you could imagine randy. Matthews Chris Hartman David Vance heel-pass West Hawley Red Dog Gary Hart Lidge the Romans you mentioned Van Berg Randy Moss does that does that to Mandy Moore Snow Randy Matthews and Randy Moss Jason Barclay Polo Logo uh-huh getting in the act of my I love it. I Love Paula. Local had all the way back to Vigo Steve Hobby so we gotta get hobby in there. I love it. Catman Catalano Catman has got one of those horses that he talked about the show was that last week I think think last week early last week we wait. I'm pretty sure that I saw one of those Gary. Mary West sources that he hinted. He said he had a a bunch of two year. Olds that we're going to start to run the last third of the year he excited the golden down then so ah see him pretty much every live race day and do has hinted that you know not not all of them runners but you know watch out so we'll oh definitely be looking for him and and things are a lot more fun when he has a couple of good ones in and he trained way back three man. I one of my personal favorite so I I was just off soft spot for the conditions conditioners some of your babes well. Let's let's dive in Ed and go where wherever wherever you want to start I'll start today because I I like a bomber speaking of you know maybe some some trainers people aren't familiar with it but genevieve Llano when in the fifth grade which is just a ten thousand maiden claimer number can she wants more fifteen to one on in the morning line. this one dropping in for a little bit and I'm really intrigued that cow main stage aboard he wrote this Philly Alice and entry. Just you know kind of just ran ran a race but I noticed the second and third place finishers from that main rates both came back to win there was a race gestured as that a bomb won a maiden race that fell ten and I really didn't have much even after the race positive to Japan down the horse so that you know how did this get by me at thirty two one but out of that terror rates I did notice that the second and third place finishers had had one so I'm GonNa pay just pay attention to maybe some key maiden races for the younger horses that are dropping int- and face better horses yeah they run their race and maybe the drop wake just one outfit fifteen to one with Miguel main stain afford. That's number ten in race five five Churchill. That's that's a very legitimate answer and and you know there's also the it's sort of that ongoing that ongoing phenomenon we see with what's happening in Ohio where you had the you know the trickle down effect from the gaming courses follow money and better horses have gotten into the horse population and you're seeing in the fact that at places like Laurel and and Charlestown this weekend in particular I I saw more and more horses last race that this'll down and I would be very aware of these kinds of and you know we've discussed this as well in our conversations with Dick Powell about press kyle and places that course players Mentally Salihi may may have certain there may be a certain fog of negativity and sort of an impression an ongoing oppression Russian. We get this New York ed where finger lakes horses come to Saratoga or downstate and you instantly think well. It's finger lakes camping. I it's gotta be inferior. Go very tread very lightly on that because better and better horses are running in Ohio and then they're going to they're going to do well in Ohio and in fact that altissimo is is is is exporting out of Ohio Bread Company for the most part art actually beat open company last time and I'll t c Mo a horse you know that this weekend is showing up in mixed company and could be very much a player so I don't don't let don't let old tropes and old thinking about circuits in basically cloud your judgment agreed and you know I think someone's to the secrets out. At least you know among the people I talked to do seem to bring it up every year but you know press kyle especially those horses they're shipping to Keeneland are not to be discounted and we we know that you know guys like Jonathan. Sheppard and Graham motion and others are not shy about making the trip from fair girl the press style you know they're they're looking for certain condition condition or and or the Tampa Bay they come to keeneland and do well even in the post poly track era and you know about terrorists definitely a player for Kentucky players..

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"ed derosa" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

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"They didn't get a chance to talk to you the last couple of weeks at the end of the summer yeah well. I'm looking forward to the the final run-up. I've seen a few articles in the last couple of weeks about the eclipse award picture which is always a topic topic I enjoy and I mostly agree with them. I don't I can't remember a year where so many divisions were up for grabs and you know even in division who's in for we have kind of clear superstar so to speak like sister Charlie the female serve reality. She's only one two great ones in much admiration ration- as I have for her talent you know that that's not good enough so far which is great because that means you'll have to earn it and talking to Chad Brown round after his spectacular million performance. He is a trainer. That's not shy about saying yeah we we like these awards for our owners and regarding regarding bricks and mortar he mentioned how his barn has never trained a horse of the year and how much that would mean to his operation so the fact that he is aware of what it takes then that he wants to these awards I think is great because I wanNA see Sister Charlie compete at the top end but if a horse like fully like got stormy when the Woodbine mile two great ones against males you know sister travel is going to have to earn it so even in division where there are some superstars no gimmes and hopefully that's going to set up for the second or at this point late third quarter of racing I I sort of was hinting at that after the four star Dave and knowing that she was headed toward this assignment and this is this is this is the Tappin turnpike hike yeah it is and Marquess and other trainer this it's not afraid to tackle pick assignment for you know various rewards whether so you know accolades and obviously the the person's nice as well so it's the setting up by you know Kinda I after the air we weren't a lot of different directions action that things are really coming into focus now ed Derosa Good Luck meet and we'll be watching TV and on the on the simulcast feed and and watch it through the twin spires freshened APP and we should also mention. I'll repeat that Kelly Reilly has got the international sources in focus as well up at the twin spires block. That's right and we're dreaming. Churchill downs today on twin spires APPS when spires on order so check that out for insights into everyday excellent Ed thanks we'll get you back regularly and as we start the march toward readers cup Ed Derosa. EJ Xt to your twitter. Let's take a break coming up on the bottom of the hour. Ferry Eto is going to join us in a couple of minutes. We'll come back from the break. I WANNA give everybody the big challenge layout and so about five minutes into the last half our we'll be joined by Berry. We'll talk more about his terrific book. We haven't talked. I guess probably since June wanted wanted to have more regular visits but my summer was so screwed up the skeptical handicapper berry meadow in a few minutes stay with us back after this with Steve Vic on Sirius. XM Radio Amazing achievements Pennsylvania Bridge on the world stage thanks to find sitting unique Bella and Shamrock rose not a joins Kentucky as the only state in the past decade to breed eclipse award champions three straight years add that to our unmatched incentives plus our Racehorse Development Fund can only.

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"Churchill getting started would bind with they're the first really too big weekends they also course got the international later in the meet later in the fall and and that brings in some international shippers this woodbine mile just the mile either northern dancer the more you look at it. I thought was was was intriguing and there's plenty of other a lot of stars on the card including Holy Khaleda and pink Loyd. WHO's I I for a horse? That's one like twenty seven in a row. Nobody seems the talk about him or pay much attention to him. Bob Tillers streaking sprinter and here's a streaking sprinter victim Rio depends on where the sprint destination is. I think might Tapei at times but shop racing form a yes to the windows. Definitely Pink Floyd is is really sort of a marvel in terms of how he's performed well routinely I of course needed him to at least be third in this race last year in the contest and finished fifth so the pink floyd stop it will be nowhere near Wreck Stale Ontario and so his chances tomorrow we'll probably increase exponentially. He's in the early. They put the bold venture early on the card actually in fact when I went to the stakes together and put them up Derby Trail Oh. I didn't even look that that early on the card so I didn't even have to go back in fact I don't know if I did go back and put it up but there are a couple couple of very nice horses here including Carlin's honor the Jack Oxley Breezy York good old Yordan approaching half a million dollars for a chiefs would and Stewart Simon you know a lot of your a lot of your local players in the sprint scene but pink Cloyd is now twenty one twenty six and it really was late last year September October that he started to show some some frings signs of tiring and Kinda sputtered out at the end of the year could. Could he be beaten in here. I don't think so no it looks like he's he's back where he needs to be and I don't really know I guess other than Caroline's honor who's supposed to be particularly big threat to him in the spot so he he should get the job done. I mean it's always nice to see good. Horses do Well York than obviously was in much better form coming into this last year having run a good second pink Floyd Royd individual and and that was also during a period of time where pink floyd was having a really hard time getting out of the gate so he's a little ornery for a seven year old gelding and he had a little bit gate trouble really about four or five races in a row going into last year's bold venture he he's not he still not they really particularly the obedient or when it comes to getting out of the gate or being trained for it but he's definitely a little bit better spot with that right now so I think given that he's he's inform and should be sitting right off of the of the pace. If you worked in may be line to the front end. I think he should be okay before we talk about the Canadian the end the grade to which does start the cross country and will incorporate the pebbles and the nightcap at Belmont Nixon thoughts about last week at Belmont. We talked about this Jockey Club Derby and oaks and the Grand Prix. I talked to Andy on Tuesday. The Grand Prix was oddly contest than I thought but some some quick hits on opening the opening salvos at Belmont. I guess guess I'll try and keep it as charitable as possible. Given I took my shots at it last week but I think they played out largely. How we expected decide thought was a pretty impressive winner of the Jockey Club oaks overcoming? I think by all counsel was a pretty negative pace setup and winning is much the best running down Wonderman who I thought probably got a little bit more the run of the race and the American contingent as we expected in that race as well as the Jockey Club Derby were pretty much no shows and it could also be that the American continuing is pretty thin out by now. We'll talk about the pebbles and a little bit but the pebbles is going to be the ninth race for one hundred thousand dollars or more for three year olds fillies on turf going back to June sixth six and that's insane so the ranks of American horses that are ready to go a mile and three eighths early in September. We're really not very not very robust and and that proved out on the lady side and I thought Spanish mission I I actually thought he was totally out of position and thought that he was about to have a Jamie Spencer Special before he was able to overcome it and get the job done so a little bit. I know that the horse was capable of overcoming his writer. I I would imagine he he should be one of the better distant sources that we could potentially see over here next year given that he's going to be off now until the spring and there's just obviously connections that have problems shipping over the Grand Prix North American Jockey Club invitational brought to you by whatever most pretentious name of all time that was one of the most oddly run races I've ever seen first of all. I don't know how the hell everybody knew. Marconi was winning that race for fun and then to watch the riders of both realm and roaming union gather a hold of their horses so strongly almost as if they were waiting for Marconi to catch up and take the lead after he blew the break so that he could go one sixteen flat it was basically sort of the epitome of what we complain about left and right about American American dirt racing right now and you know in this day and age of sort of turf occasion of American racing where everybody points to turf races races are run like turf races. It's almost as if one horse makes the lead all the other guys say okay well. They're the pacesetter we're just GONNA go ahead and sit back and wait for them to come back to us and the majority of the time on the dirt that just doesn't happen even so shockingly Marconi was able to set a pedestrian pace and and went on with it and I I obviously would not have been a big fan of his at the price he went off often. We talked about how it looked like a bit more competitive race on paper the other todd pletcher trainee your to blame. I thought ran pretty well. He was able to stop the pace on the inside but you know I don't y horse like roaming union was in there if he wasn't GonNa GonNa contest the pace especially given that he's from connections like Michelle Navin who generally have a pretty decent idea how to win dirt racist so that was is a little bit of a head scratcher. you know look my personal opinion is that if there's any thought given to this turf triple. I really hope that same amount of money is committed to a dirt program and trying trying to incentivize horsemen to get there and run on dirt more frequently really try and build up the claiming ranks again because it's kind of embarrassing through the first three days of racing. I'm I'm sorry through the first three days of Racing Belmont there were seventy eight horses total entered to run on dirt and there are over seventy eight horses enter to run dirt in the first day at Churchill so I if the same number number of races and and that's that's not good. That's a big big problem that creates a big problem in the winter so that's my hope for it as it is. I guess we'll see probably a little bit better from Spanish mission in the Diese Lisa next year well we turn to Belmont today and into the weekend a couple of very good maiden races actually as part of that card and maybe we'll touch on them but let's let's look at the cross country pick five and it is comprised of of the three three of the stakes would bind the Canadian the mile and the northern dancer that you know you the top of your head. You wouldn't have thought it the three of them were as complex as actually I think they are and then the pebbles and the turf sprint claiming nightcap the eleventh at Belmont so let's start with the Canadian you know this is an interesting field the and really they'll competition. Idea should probably go off a pretty solid favorite. I don't really see how tactically you could make a real stand with her and she's a horseshoe. Obviously needs to lay back and make one run and you know those types generally at the mercy of the pace and this race does not look like it's going to have really any pace speak of so so she's going to have to overcome that now. I will say that you'll Rosario getting back on board to me feels like a very good thing. It does seem like she's just a little bit better horse when he's John Her but now the flip side of that is that we know Joel style. He's GonNa take her back and let her make one run so I mean they're they're going to. There's going to have to be some pace in here that you can't really foresee and I guess the hope is that Dixie moon and or starship do believe maybe show a little bit more speed than they have before. That's if you're back competition of ideas with any great fervor because obviously what this is shaping up as a situation where Holy Helena has a big tactical advantage on the other favorite and and she's been effective at Woodbine in the past. You look good winning the dance smartly last time Jimmy was giving a little bit of time since and I think she's a horse that that will really get the run of the race and and that's GonNa make her toffee. This could be a situation where on your your pick five. You're really leaning on those two pretty heavily and maybe you could give a little bit of a nod holy Helena on one one more additional ticket. I did want to try and make a case for to Riga and my hope is the Tyler Galileo. Maybe a little bit more aggressive with her than Johnny. Velazquez was was last time he finished just length and a half behind the competition of ideas did get into a little bit of trouble amazingly. She got into trouble in the three-horse rates which it happens of course and with a little bit cleaner run maybe second off the off the layoff off the ship in we can see some improvement grim oceans been a little the little laid back with her she she ran on July twentieth didn't work until August thirty first but might be one of those horses that can stay fit without doing that. I I'm always very very in tune and was looking at his horses in these kind of scenarios as they they generally overperform relative to their odds so I'm GonNa go ahead and include Theresa's well the and will include could starship jubilee more than likely those two has backups because I think they each offers some appeal at what should be better prices than the two chalks should note that ah Jimmy Jerkins after sending Holy Elena opt for the dance smartly basically is as left her there and oh my Gosh the stronach trainer but my Woodbine what is yes thank you Mike Doyle. Mike Doyle has been handling and Jimmy is on TV with seth deny after after precision is one and he told the story about Jimmy said he got the notification is it is stable mail all that Holy Helena had worked Labor Day weekend and so gets the notice he opens it up and Airy Jerry Sees Holy Elena six longs one eleven and three Jimmy said got on the phone to this is Mike what's going on up there and he said I really don't worry though or she did it easy. Did it easy the track was the polly was slick. It was cold or whatever yeah what eleven at three and you know what I did. I brought up with Jimmy that great story that is his father told about Bo purple and going out to Hawthorn for the Hawthorne Gold Cup on Tuesday the race as was Saturday and on Tuesday he gets a call from a Chicago sportswriter and said Jerkins. I wanted to ask you for comment about outvote purples work and said what about it. He says well he he he went a mile in one thirty. Two and three Korea broke the track record or mile. I think he went to violent at eight and broke the track record. What what forty seven forty six shades or something and and and Jerkin said you know? I'm sure he'll be fine and sure enough. He went out and won the Gold Cup but that was funny. One one eleven and three

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