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Divination with medicine cards

True Mysteries of the Pacific Northwest

05:05 min | 5 months ago

Divination with medicine cards

"Welcome to kiss myths and mysteries. I'm your host kit chrome today my investigation of various forms of divvy nation. I'm lucky to medicine cards. But before i begin i want to mention that i did get a couple. More box sets the wild unknown. Terro from a previous podcast. I did and if you'd like one of these nice box sets thereby karen crowns. Draw a line at kitt k. Crummy g mail dot com or one night owl sounds studio at shemale dot com right here and i'll send you an ask the unknown terro and i'll send you a box set now onto medicine. Cards medicine and native american tradition is anything that brings personal power strength and understanding in the medicine cards. Each card shows one animal in a shield with name and number assigned to each card is a special quality that reflects the animals nature for example loyalty for dog gentleness. For deer medicine card readings are unique divination system which draws upon ancient knowledge in the national ways of our animal guides based on the signs that natural world gives us and the great wisdom animals. Give us medicine card readings. God the way to healing in the mind body emotion and spirit by providing insights and new perspectives. What is happening with four you now and how to move forward by learning the meaning of the animal totems that come to us at the perfect time and how these signs are powerful meaningful to our lives. Situation medicine card. Readings help you. Achieve personal growth. Transformation and balanced living. There are several different medicine. Cards spreads depending on the medicine. You are seeking or the problem or issue. You're trying to understand. Your selection may surprise you but will always be correct. Each person has nine power or totem animals to represent the medicine. They carry in the earth. Walk these animals or creature beings emulate your ability talents and challenges. As you come into this earth walk. There are seven directions surrounding your physical body. East south west north above below and within the direction was in exists within you but also surrounds. You says the entire universe is inside of your consciousness to other animals which make up nine. Totem animals are the ones that are walking at each side of you at all times. They are right side unless side. The pathway spread comes from druidic system of divination and gives you overall information about your pathway in life. It shows you your present pathway as well as where you have been in where you are going. The animal represented in the sacred mountain. Car will indicate how your spiritual physical realities have melted to produce you of the present moment. Since all things evolved tomorrow this you will have grown and understanding so this animal may be different in accepting this omen of who you are in the present you may then see what needs changing or modifying whether you are balanced or upset and if you need to enter the silence for answers and there are many different spreads depending upon what you're searching for many ways to find answers the moon lodge spread. The pathway spread the medicine wheel. Spread sun lodge spread to name a few hundred paths to find out about yourself past present and future modern oracles divination with medicine. Cards was researched written by my team of urban legend riders and produced here at night all sounds studio and brought to you in part by the rogue valley metaphysical library and internationally recognized psychic and medium. Sheriff bauer author of the book. Life you terminal love immortal they you can get a share in bauer medium dot com and by kids myths and mysteries where you can always get a book on the strange and unexplained for free check out the site. There are many things there that you can get for free. And as i mentioned the beginning of this podcast. I do have a couple more of the wild unknown terrible box set packages by karen crohn's and if you'd like one of these four free talk me line kit k. Crumb that g mill dot com or right here. One night owl sounds studio at g. Mail dot com. And i'll send you a box set for free no strings attached this kid chrome thanks for listening.

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COVID-19 and its National Security Implications in the Middle East, South Asia and Africa

The Lawfare Podcast

47:29 min | 1 year ago

COVID-19 and its National Security Implications in the Middle East, South Asia and Africa

"There are a number of isis detention centers as well as displacement camps in northeast Syria already there were issues with the safety insecurity instability of those those camps in detention sites prior to the pandemic. The pandemic simply I think deepened in heightened those concerns added a layer of agitation to those both in the prisons, and in the in the displacement camps in racine, for example the same prison in Husky province northeastern. Syria have a rioting. Take place amongst the prisoners, not once but twice so that's another area that one needs to watch particularly since isis has placed a premium on calling for prison breaks as a way of boosting its recruitment. I'm David Preece, and this is the law fair podcast. July Thirteenth Two thousand twenty. You've heard a lot about covert nineteen and its effects in the United States in China and East Asia in Europe, and even in Brazil, but what about the Middle East South Asia and Africa the viruses, hitting these regions hard with profound political and national security consequences. To discuss it all. We brought into the virtual jungle studio in all star panel of regional experts. I know you're Kuban. She is a senior adviser on Syria. The Middle East and North Africa at the United States Institute of Peace. Second Nilanthi Samara Nyaka she is the director of the strategy and Policy Analysis Program. At CNA with expertise on Indian Ocean and South Asia security. Finally Judd government. He's the director of the Africa Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies and a former national intelligence officer for Africa. It's the law. Fair podcast July thirteenth. Cove nineteen, and it's national security implications in the middle. East South Asia and Africa. Mona. Let's start with Iran and then the wider Middle East in terms of. Covid arrived and how it spread this spring. How did it? I affect the Levada in the wider Middle East, so Iran was the first country in the Middle East to experience covet, and it was quite early as early as mid February that there were actual reports of it started in the. Religious City of calm, but then very quickly spread throughout the country. It was notable that a number of senior Raanan officials contract the disease. There was one. Memorable anecdote when I think it was. Maybe it was the deputy health minister who was giving a press conference sweating profusely and was not note. This has been stabilized. That really is no outbreak and the next day is reported that he's come down with covert. So Iran was really one of the earliest ones in remains the regional epicenter of the pandemic other countries that are now experiencing more significant outbreaks are Iraq. Some of the Gulf countries and Egypt. Now, the attention that was given at least in most of the international press was really to the Iranian government. There wasn't as much attention to the spread among the population in Iran and even less soda populations spread in the other countries, but did it did it follow a similar pattern too much of the rest of the world where everybody was focused on flights coming in from China, and then eventually the flights coming in from Europe and other locations got attention. Well I think it was absolutely a the Islamic republic's ties to China that we're fingered initially, but we should also note that the government really downplayed the pandemic attempted to hide the true extent of it. There are still questions about how extensive testing was, but there were videos and other things coming out on twitter and other social media platforms where it became very clear that the country was fairly quickly overwhelmed and I should know they did respond, but with some lockdown measures gradual ones through April and May. And then started to reopen in June, and now they're in the midst of essentially a second surge that has seen including the last few days, the largest single number of deaths in one day and Iran has in the top ten list for numbers of infections of Covid not a top ten list you WANNA be on right between Italy and Spain. Right. Along. Let's turn to you. How about South Asia did cove it arrive, and what was it like in that first month or two? Sure India and Pakistan for their part they acted early in terms of imposing restrictions, the lockdowns suspending era travel bus travel, but I think one of the criticisms was that it was implemented quite harshly, so there were concerns from the outset about food insecurity, just access to basic staples, migrant workers and India who needed to walk for hundreds of miles to return to their villages, due to the restrictions on. On movements, so it was difficult for them, but Bangaldesh is an interesting case. Because the they saw returning migrant workers or so essentially in Bangladesh, a lot of citizens will go abroad to work especially, in the Middle East and then they will send remittances home, so it's really a top contributor to the the national economy so these workers were coming home from the Middle East from. From Europe and they they weren't really quarantining, so it was a different experience than Indian Pakistan and then there are descending on Daca, which is the most densely populated city in the world, and then they're returning to their homes in the villages of so that's how the the virus has been spreading in. Bangladesh, they're having a difficult time in terms of needing hospital beds and ventilators and Bangash is expecting. Expecting a peak in September Parkistan in the late summer, and then just this week, India surpassed Russia on the Johns Hopkins. University tracker, so it's it's right now after the you ask Brazil in terms of confirmed cases, so it's the the region going through a very difficult time right now. Absolutely, Judd, when and where did Africa get this coronavirus? I and which governments reacted best and worst early on. I, always like the president of Kenya's statement about this, he said this is a crisis that was not created on the African continent as so in sub. Saharan Africa Nigeria I in late February and takes all the way till mid mid-may for all forty nine countries. To have their first index cases, and it's a really very case only one case in sub Saharan Africa Somalia. Actually has a China Nexus. The majority of them actually reflect colonial ties, so you see a number of countries that formerly that are anglophone, having UK connections French with Francophone countries and then. A number of countries that have been infected by index cases from Italy given the really numbers Italy had. Was Pretty Slow at first took ninety eight days for the. Region to reach just one hundred thousand cases, and so it had the lowest caseload globally, but now things are picking up eighteen days to get to two hundred thousand now we're just reach the the half million mark. Let me ask you you are. How much of that is due to under testing that we've heard about across Africa. Yeah, I mean that's there's a number of different hypotheses on why the case load has been low and and the death rate is actually really low. It's about twelve thousand deaths so far some people point sort of the young population age medians about nineteen some talk about the the lockdowns and I can talk a little more about how swiftly those were implemented, but yes, under testing is a big challenge on the continent. They're largely just telling in cities. A report that came out earlier this week, said four thousand tests per million, which compares very poorly to wet. The testing levels are in say Europe. South Africa though I should point out is actually not bad when it comes to testing, it's the nineteenth globally in terms of the number of Tasir motion of population tested. Okay. Well, let's dig into the. Political and social consequences of Covid nineteen, these obviously will be profound, and in some places they already are dramatic Mona. Talk with us a bit about these dynamics in the Middle East and where they have been the most consequential. So I think in many ways it's going to be coverted second and third order effects that are probably going to be the most consequential for the region. We're GONNA see we're starting to already a reverberate in ways that are quite significant and I would note in particular is really the economic. Fallout from covid from the shutdown of measures. Put in place. That really poised to impact region in a significant way of the oil market, for example, witnessed a collapse in prices, April it has said somewhat recovered not entirely, and that's given sort of a double whammy impact, if you will on in particular fragile oil, producing countries like Iraq which depend on oil for your ninety percent budget, but I think in many ways. Perhaps it's always the poster child for how dramatic and significant Kobe's second order impacts can be is Lebanon. And there there was already. The country was contending with a very serious debt crisis that started back in October of twenty nineteen. And the shutdown measures that that. Lebanon was forced to to take as a result of of. Mitigating Effects of the pandemic essentially accelerated is a deep into the impact of that debt crisis so much so that we are now witnessing Lebanon sensually in a free fall. And a very scary wave hurtling toward a failed state Mona. Let me let me pause you there. I've seen some reports out of Lebanon that a significant number of people are are fleeing. That is they're leaving, trying to go to Europe and other locations, which is not an easy thing to do during an era of quarantines and lock downs. How how is this affecting Lebanese society now and the prospects for a reconstruction, or at least some kind of recovery in the years to come? Well again until they get a handle on the actual debt crisis, and the government has been very very remiss of a wall, quite frankly in terms of negotiating and putting forth package for the IMF, and so I think people weaving we're. Starting to see the beginnings of that, but really what's more concerning? Is the devastating effects on many of those who won't be able to lead, so this is a country that is now being plunged into poverty. It's estimated that fifty percent of the population in Moore's is living below the poverty level. There's concerns about hunger I mean this. was a middle income country in outer worries about famine, hunger fuel shortages unemployment, all of the above it is basically bet as rail on the Mediterranean without the oil, and I would say significant geostrategic implications for the US and I would think we couldn't get much more depressing than that, but I'm going to give it a try. Because another country in the region that did not have the the benefits that Lebanon had was Yemen which was already humanitarian catastrophe of epic proportions before Kobe now there was a suspension of the ongoing conflict in Yemen for a while as covid started, but it has come back. What are the prospects for any kind of political recovery in Yemen in the near future? Unfortunately I think the prospects are are quite dip, and as rightly point out. This was a country that was already suffering perhaps worse, humanitarian catastrophe world prior to Cogan. We're seeing the health care system collapsed as Kobe has made its way in, and really no no clear prospects for any near-term political settlement to the conflict there, so no, I think unfortunately I think Yemen is another place. That's very very worrying. Lengthy. Let's turn to. You. Are the consequences of the coronavirus playing out in India SRI? Lanka Bangladesh Pakistan in the whole region. Where is it the most compelling for you as an analyst to see how political opponents indoor extremists are taking advantage of the situation? Absolutely I want to Echo Mona's point about the economic costs, because you are seeing that across the South Asian countries and Indian Pakistan. Even though they were early in imposing restrictions, the lockdowns were day caused such adverse economic impacts that they were essentially on unsustainable. So. They need to lift those restrictions. And now we're seeing the even greater transmission of the virus in those countries in Bangladesh. We are seeing significant economic impacts. This country is really considered a success story. There are expected before Kobe to leave. The the category of Lesser Developed Countries LDC's, but now due to the COVID crisis there garment industry, which has really feel their economic growth over the past several years. It's been hurt. It's a top. Their experts are really a top contributor of income for the country, but they've had many orders for overseas canceled or postponed, and so you're seeing increased unemployment and increased poverty in Bangladesh and it's. In addition to not only decreased. For Bangladesh for their garments, you're also seeing decrease remittances because the the workers who will leave the country in work in the Middle East and just make a lot more money. They are There are no longer being able to send back remittances which are in the the number two contributor to Bangladesh's economy, so it's It's been very difficult. There SRI. Lanka you mentioned also has seen a decrease in their exports and also decrease in tourism, as has Maldives so both. Sri Lanka and Maldives Tropical Island countries, they rely a lot on tourism to fuel. Fuel the economy is their economies and Yeah, they they've seen significant. Economic impacts decreases most of their a tourist come from Europe and also Mr Lanka Maldives were already very heavily indebted and had significant problems economically even before cove it so since covert, it's only exacerbated those problems and even within the past week, the World Bank downgraded Srilanka it had actually been upgraded to an upper middle income economy by the World Bank, but they've been downgraded back down to lower middle income economy, so on the urban significant impacts on these countries, so in terms of politics. Sri Lanka. They're gonNA to have their elections for parliament early next month, so that will be interesting or test case in South Asia to see if covid rubbing any impact politico and in terms of Indiana a Prime Minister Modi has been pretty strong I would say in large part due to the India China border issues that they've been seeing so. That's really helped sort of firm, his standing as a national security leader, so he was pretty strong, even before coveted but it elsewhere Pakistan Imran Khan the prime minister. He was criticize he referred to covert is being like the flu, so I got a lot of flack for that APP. And the Nepal the Prime Minister and his team of advisers. They've been accused of receiving kickbacks. His, grasp on leadership right now it's it's seen as really called into question, so there's the potential for a lot of political impacts reverberations from coated in South Asia. Does it look like any of the governments in the region are going to suffer a dramatic political backlash because of their handling of covid. You know in in Bangladesh the leader is has really has a tight grip on power. There's a lot of suspicion in terms of the estimates, the official estimates of covid cases, but she has such a tight grip on power, and really just a a a lack of opposition or Bible opposition that nothing will probably happen to her, as I mentioned Modi's pretty strong, in India I would say. Say in Nepal is probably where the leadership there's the most question about their ability to maintain power and SRI. Lanka will see if there's any impact on the government there in terms of the parliamentary elections early next month, and the leadership has been in office. The presidential leadership has been in office for under a year so that'll be really the first task case in South Asia. Judd we just heard about the impact of corruption in at least one case in South Asia. This appears to be something that's playing out in Africa's. You've covered on your into Africa podcast Nigeria Uganda Zimbabwe Kenya South Africa especially Zambia where a senior government official was fired for graft related to covid nineteen. How is the issue of corruption playing politically in the major countries of Africa in? Feeding into wider issues of governance. You know it's when you have a situation where lots of money is pouring into into a country to respond to this. Health Crisis Economic Crisis in you don't have good checks or transparency you open yourself up to corruption, and so you know as he suggested David, there's been a number of countries that we know of of the corruption, most of them being in health ministries and I suspect they'll be more of especially for countries that don't have accountability. You know the good contrast is in South Africa where there are some questions about certain ministers in corruption in there, being called a task in parliament, but stepping back. You know this is really about in my mind. A huge political challenge these regions covid nineteen poses really three tests for African leaders. When is around governance, which is as we're talking about service delivery whether or not you are going to indulge in corruption. Corruption and how do you think about livelihoods versus lockdowns? Right is the cure worse than the disease. And how do you deal with security? But there's some really interesting questions you know a second test in my mind around leadership twenty one out of the forty nine leaders in sub. Saharan Africa over sixty five so they're uniquely vulnerable at to this disease one of the leaders of maybe at the twenty second. Second at the president of gut bone is still recovering from a coma, and so we've already seen one leader we presume has died from from covid PR Ziza Barundi. It's not confirmed, but that's the white suspicion that he did die in the first head of state to die from this disease, but if you look at I've counted twenty one ministers across the continent that have covid nineteen, three out of five of. Of South Sudan's vice presidents have covid nineteen, and so in some of these regimes that are highly personalized centralize when you are in isolation or recovering, it does sort of limit your ability to govern, and then just as Mona. said you know what to do, about elections that are coming up. We still have in my region eight more presidential elections that are on the books, and do you have an election? In perhaps hastened the disease, the disease is spread or do delay in when is that mean for democracy in your country? Some leader so far have I think taken advantage of the disease to advance their own political agenda counting on low, so they could. Win a referendum to extend their term in office or to? Fill the legislature with their allies. Other countries have done a better job looking for consensus with the parties institutions to delay. has, but the honeymoon only lasts so long, even Ethiopia where that was a well regarded decision initially now there's a lot of pressure on the government to to be transparent about your their plans when it comes to this election. To what extent have political opposition? Rallied around this, because either many African leaders as you mentioned, who have sought to use covid to advance what they were going to try to do anyway, which is to keep in power into perhaps delay, democratic reforms and democratic elections are opposition candidates. Really taking advantage of this or they not want to be seen politicizing the virus. It really depends forty nine countries forty nine different scenarios. We're seeing a couple of opposition. Leaders. I think working well with the government. Even if they are political rivals to address this emergency, there are other political opposition leaders that are are calling their government to account. We have an event CSIS on Friday. The seventeenth of her having three opposition leaders in Tanzania Zambia Zimbabwe to explain how they are addressing this crisis and others are appealing to the international community to call out the government, or they're boycotting, which doesn't really help their case, so there's there's a real. Diversity of experiences that are happening on the continent, but it's difficult to call it a government for health measures right because now you're debating the science if they're having if they're delayed the election and if you're not if you're arguing against the election, you know your. Your opponent Casas arguing against democracy. I WANNA. Make sure we don't leave behind the most populous country in the one I. Know You love Nigeria Nigeria case where things are actually working out alright. Nigeria in every aspect is always just like the United States where you have this diversity of reactions. It's a federal state. You have many state levels governments that are doing phenomenal jobs like in Lagos State and you have other states like in Congo it's has a huge count of unclaimed dead bodies in their denying that it's covert or other states like Cross River that says they have no cova cases, which is almost certainly impossible and the federal government sort of is. Doing a good job at points relying on the the institutions that they have their their version of the CDC but I do think that the President President Bahari has really missed an opportunity to communicate more effectively to his constituents about this disease. He's not doing what President Robert Pos of south. Africa's doing. Which is modeling wearing the mask and regularly briefing the pop book he's He's typically is. More isolated as a leader and he's lost his right hand. Man is chief of Staff Abby. Kiara had passed away from code and so I think he's a little on more right now to write. Let's spend some time on the national security implications of this, Mona, as usual twenty twenty has seen no shortage of internal and international crises in the middle, East and North Africa, but let's focus on a few first of all. Tell me how covid is. Impacting the counter. Campaign in eastern Syria in northern, Iraq issue you've been covering closely? How do you see this developing in? What are the danger signs here? So I think already you know. There had been some concerns prior to cove it raised by the office of the Inspector General WHO's. Provide assessments of Operation Inherent Resolve, and how those operations are going, and already prior to the onset of the pandemic, there were concerns that that Isis was was starting to regroup, both in in Syria, Egypt Syria Iraq once the pandemic arrives, that certainly had an impact on. US forces on the ground in both places drawdown of forces from Iraq there is. The Need to lockdown forces in response to the pandemics that certainly impacted the ability to undertake operations now isis has also. Affected by the pandemic, and so it early on for example they travel ban, and warned their their members not to try to travel to Western Europe which was already having a very significant impact on. But what we've seen since they Garcia concerning signs, both in terms of isis ability to weave the pandemic into its narrative against the West and use it for propaganda purposes. But more importantly concerning I think. A couple of developments. That isis shown itself able to take advantage of local security forces either spending more of their time, enforcing curfews and less of their time tracking isis. Cells or the security forces themselves on more of lockdown at so isis taken advantage her back pause to to mount attacks. We've seen this. In particular. In parts of Iraq, were there been some significant attacks also in eastern Syria in part of the. Desert. That is nominally under the regime's control, and we've seen some significant isis attacks in that area, and then finally I think something that sometimes doesn't get the attention it deserves is the fact that there are a number of isis detention centers as well as displacement camps northeast Syria now those are under the control of the Syrian Democratic Forces, a Kurdish lead our local partners on the ground in northeast Syria. Already, there were issues with the safety insecurity instability of those those camps in detention sites prior to the pandemic. Pandemic. Deepened in heightened, those concerns added layer of education to those votes in the prisons and invalid in displacement camps in. We've seen for example the same prison in Hosokawa province in northeastern Syria have rioting take place amongst the prisoners, not once but twice so that's another area that one needs to watch the titular since. has placed a premium on calling for prison breaks as a way of using its recruitment. You dropped something in there that I, don't WanNa, let slide. You mention that Isis has been using. covid nineteen for propaganda purposes. How is this fitting into their narrative? And how receptive do you think populations in the region and beyond will be to it? I think I of course talking about it. As as cursed from the West, as God's punishment on the west of words, horrible behavior super, they're using the pandemic. The impacts of the pandemic to try prove the point about how evil and horrible the West is I think frankly though more concerning talking about what we spoke about earlier. which are these sort of the economic impact, so those impacts are going to feed the. The kinds of grievances that organizations like Isis feed off of, and so the extent to which we see sort of the post co Vid middle. East emerge with greater levels of disaffection social disaffection that there too I think there's there's fertile ground for for Isis to use those conditions in its propaganda ad for recruitment purposes. Sure no wealthy. Let's talk about the long-term national security implications in South Asia India for one. Has Been Fascinating to watch in recent years as it has recalibrated its strategic positioning vis-a-vis China in the US, and of course we've had the India China border clashes lately. How do you see covid nineteen in its aftermath playing out in the subcontinent in terms of these regional strategic calculations? I think that's really been a fascinating development to track, and it's. It's really ongoing. A as you mentioned the the India China border clashes that we're seeing the really the the first fatalities at the border in. So it's it's pretty bad right now. And in terms of US national interest, it's an end sort of an unanticipated consequence of the India, China border clashes is to bring India even closer to the United States. which in my observation has really been a goal of US strategy over the past two decades is to really bring India closer just given the threat seen coming from China. So China, doing what it's doing in terms of being increasingly assertive. That's only heightening India's brought perceptions. And India has our disposition toward autonomy, and this comes from its non-alignment posture during the Cold War, and it's larger foreign policy legacies, so it's it's very deliberately not a treaty ally of the United States, but it has been gradually becoming closer strategic partner, a non allied strategic partner to the United. States really over over the last decade is. Is particularly under the mody administration so mostly the last five or six years and now actually the the US most recently in the past few years given at the title of major defense partner, so we're seeing increasing defense strategic relationship between India, and the US developed and those those border clashes are only helping to bring India closer, but to bring it back to Cova. One development that I took. No Dob is are actually was very early on in March, you could see the State Department launching this this grouping to sort of coordinate with diplomats in Indo Pacific allies, and Partners and India was one of those countries part that grouping and even saw secretary. Pompilio AH counterpart call with the Indian Foreign Minister or Minister of External Affairs. Shankar you definitely see the US for its part sort of using code in terms of its messaging and the Allies and partners. It's reaching out to particularly in the. And of course whenever we talk about. India's ties to the US and China dynamic. We have to talk about Poston. So how has the Pakistani government reacted to these developments? And how are they seeking to manage this post? Cova National Security Environment. well as I mentioned, I think Imran Khan there. There were just a lot of doubts about his commitment to an effective response to Pakistan's credit. They did implement restrictions early by. It's just they were just perhaps a little too harsh than with the country could could accommodate reasonably terms of the economic consequences so I think that that's been difficult, and then of course U S Pakistani relations have only been deteriorating as U. S.. India relations have only been increasing, so it's it's really I. Think the US has has been really taking its its relationship with India seriously and that effort to sort of bring. Bring it even closer one thing that that might be of interest actually is what the State Department has been doing in terms of its coordination group it hearkens back to what it did with the two thousand four soon Nami after that disaster struck because it essentially you saw the US India Japan and Australia a bonding together after this crisis, and coordinating on the provision of disaster relief, and that interestingly have that nontraditional security events had very traditional security outcome in that it laid the foundations for this quad relationship that is often discussed as being sort of a countering or containing China efforts In two thousand seven, it had sort of an apex in terms of a multilateral naval exercise, which China protested and in the Quan kind of fell apart then password about ten years later now the Claude it's actually reconstituted in terms of their discussions, so some people are actually referring to the State Department's effort now on the covid response with Indo, Pacific Allies and partners is being the Quad, plus because it's got four countries, the US India Japan and Australia Parker few other allies and partners like South Korea. New, Zealand, but it's. It's it's been really fascinating to see how again this nontraditional security crisis with coveted, and the response is actually having this traditional security outcome, because WHO's not part of that grouping China's not part that gripping, but US allies and partners like including Vietnam You know these Indo Pacific Allies and partners are very clearly part of that there seems to be a messaging component coming out of the State Department with regard to this Kwan plus dialogue. That's happening about Kobe, so it has real implications for alliances and strategic partnerships. There's definitely a messaging component there d. do you see it gaining more than that? As a in a sense, a forum to start moving forward on policy. Well I think that. That's kind of a big question at it's getting a lot of attention in South Asia just due to India's participation, and what's going now with the the border clashes with China as you mentioned so there's just a lot of discussion. People are calling Quad, plus so people wanna see what's going to happen with this quad version two point. Oh, given the one in the last decade, fell apart but now the discussion just between the four quad countries, the US India Japan and Australia those are continuing, and now it's squad, plus but again China's quite deliberately not part of this I yeah, that's a big messaging aspect of this grouping. Judd, how might covid nineteen and its responses and outside actors aid and other actions in Africa play out in a few key countries in the continent? I'm just sitting here in awe of the quad. Format which I hadn't heard of, but I think in sub Saharan Africa they would welcome that kind of multi-lateralism because that's not what's happening on the continent, the Africans are really fed up I think with the way that Green Power Competition has unfolded undercover. And you know I have not seen in my career such sustained in public criticism of the US and China for a variety of reasons that are related to covert in Kota adjacent issue so. They? Understand that the disease came out of China. Many Africans have joined Australian signing for the World Health Assembly resolution looking at the origins of this disease, the Africans have been very frustrated with the the racism that they have seen in Guangzhou in, so they've called Chinese leaders on the carpet around these issues. A China has tried to rebound down from that particularly from Jack, Ma, of Alibaba, who has been giving assistance of across the continent in very dramatic ways, but that relationship has taken. At the minimum over hit in tonal hit of from some of these other issues around covert and in for the US the Africans have been have rallied around Dr who who is a former Ethiopian minister. They've been frustrated with the US efforts to investigate the head of the African Development Bank. They have been very vocal about the George Floyd murderer, and so the that relationship is taking a. Hit and I think that the Africans really have become the standard bearer for thinking about multi-lateralism, and there are so many actors that are giving aid to the continent, not just the US in China, but Europe, but also India has given a lot of assistance the Gulf states who have increased their engagement, so you've got a number of different countries that are active, but without coordination I, do think that it has been less effective and to go back to an earlier point I think it opens up for more opportunities for misuse, because there is no sort of transparency. I spent weeks trying to figure out who's given what to whom and it was A. it was a. it was a journey. So it seems to me that this is real. Opportunity lost for American national security here the relationship with China which some people have focused on perhaps too much in terms of the continent, but here it is taking that rhetorical or tonal hit as you mentioned. In the United States was not poised to take any strategic advantage of this. Now the US was really late to the game I. Mean I don't think that the Africans would appreciate them taking. That were caught up in a glass house, talking about racism in the you know in show given where we are here in the United States, but it took the US a very long time to even get their act together to talk about what they're doing until the twenty seventh of March just to put it a fact sheet about the response to Covid and you know we like in the US to talk about how much money we're giving, which is substantial I mean which is really significant in really important, but the Chinese have been smarter about sort of what things. Resonate in one's mind, so they're more focused on how many? How many ventilators! How many masks so I think it's a, it's a much more tangible a sticky kind of assistance. In the US has attack China. They've also attacked Cuba for their assistance, and then just just actually today. This was not a smart move the National Security Council applauded Taiwan for its assistance in partnership with Somaliland, which is a self declared independence state, but it is not independent in so the US is now I think added insult to injury by weighing in on this issue on Taiwan Somaliland. Somaliland, which the Africans are going to really blanche at before we go, I'd like to hear from each of you about some other, if not wildcards of some other possible developments somewhere in your region that that you think are being overlooked Mona. You've talked elsewhere about the the danger of failed states and issues in the Middle East more widely coming up that people aren't really focused on. Helping out in the future for because we're so obsessed with the president in trying to get ahead of the virus itself, but whether it's failed states or something else. What is it in the middle? East that you want to make sure that national security practitioners are keeping their eyes on for the future. So I'd like to highlight toothpicks. I is exactly that failed states in here in particular Lebanon really is hurtling toward disaster in the near term, and there is a failed stated Lebanon. We'll have enormous implications for the US already. Our allies Israel Jordan I think are uncomfortable with the level of instability in the region failed state Lebanon would really a significantly increase that but I also think it's important to understand you know Lebanon host, the largest number of refugees per capita in the world. The vast majority of more Syrian. And so failed state in Lebanon really would have enormous negative implications for refugees there it could also open up security vacuums that would be taken advantage of by Isis, al Qaeda and other groups, and we could see Lebanese themselves as you noted but I think in a much more scary anonymous way. Lebanese who out of desperation, themselves of become refugees, and then lastly I think it's important to underscore the looming humanitarian disastrous. We talked about Yemen. which is one that is a very notable, but I would also talk about Syria for a moment. In Syria. We've seen recently of the first reported case of Covid in Midland. This is the northwest a government that is still under rebel control parts of at our. It is very densely populated with internally displaced people. They live in a in a very dense fashion. They don't have access to all the health facilities, etc, because of the regime's bombing of many of those hospitals cove in, it liberally will be at disaster, and we've already seen one reported case. I think that the the humanitarian situation in Syria is also going to be very close to. Judd same question to you. What's what's the wildcard here? What's the thing that we shouldn't take our eyes off of because of all of the other things going on? I'm actually GONNA GONNA FLIP IT David I'm GonNa? Talk about sort of the silver linings Cova in how we shouldn't miss the policy opportunities here right like we need to look at this disease at with this disease, and the response to it is telling us first of all the African Union's the African CDC which we invested in helped set up after the crisis has done a phenomenal job and I think it's another testament to institutions, but. But we're seeing the greatest expansion of social welfare programming in sub Saharan Africa since really relieved period Marsin prison reform. How many times have I seen the State Department launched a human rights report the talks about prisons in. They're letting people outta prisons. These overcrowded prisons received philanthropy on the continent in a major way, and we're seeing technology being used in adopted more frequently, so people could sort of manage their lives, and so you know. What I would argue for people to think about since I spent a lot of time talking about the bad news is how do we think about what's happened on the continent, the positive elements about SPINA. COVID and not make him just bandaids, but actually concretize them. Make them policy, and so that the the conic can build back better. Sounds good to me. Not We'll give you the last word. What's something that we shouldn't take our eyes off of in South Asia? As covid plays out in any of these realms. I think the economic impacts are really important as are the potential for US military operations which seems to be really missing from the discussion that I've been observing I would see what the economic impacts as mentioned that the US has been giving a lot of important health assistance. The money is significant and I. Think it's very much welcome, but bright, so has China. The some people calling China's mask diplomacy. But I think it just in terms of the the economic impacts that these countries throughout South Asia are facing similar. Some are heavily indebted. They've. Requested a from the IMF World Bank of those types of packages I think it suggests a real opportunity for the US particularly with regard to the recently restructured US International. Development Finance Corporation. Because that's that's what countries need. Sri Lanka for its part of it requested in gotTa like five hundred million dollars to help address some of the deficits in its foreign exchange reserves, so I think there is potentially a real role here for. For the United States to kind of go beyond just sort of the the PPA's and the the health assistance, which is of course very much welcome, but just the US. I think this could actually play a much more important role, and how have a longer lasting impacts, and then also just in terms of the potential for US military response operations like we have seen with previous disaster relief missions like the two thousand four. Four Su Nami India. For its part has already been deploying its military forces including naval forces all the way across the Indian Ocean to deliver relief. and Judd mentioned Europe and France the US very close allies. France and the UK also deployed of their military forces for response operations so I. Think just especially this this framing of the Indo Pacific. allies in partners in this Quad, plus it's really missing France and the. The UK despite their significant Indo Pacific equities. It's really just been framed in terms of these mostly Pacific waters, countries, plus India and the UK France US relations are often framed in transatlantic context so I think this again. poses a real opportunity to work with close allies like France and the UK on response to cove, including a potentially military response operations as the crisis continues to wreak havoc across South Asia. Appreciate you highlighting that, and actually I appreciate the time from all three of you. Thank you for joining us and giving US insight on these issues that we will continue to follow. Thanks for having us. Thank? You thanks. The law fair podcast is produced in cooperation with the Brookings Institution. Please share the podcast rate, the PODCAST tweet and post about the podcast on social media whatever you can do to help us spread the word. This episode is edited and produced by Gen Paci Howell. Zachary! Frank is our audio engineer Sophia Yan as always performed our music. 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Episode 13 @Cordss: Studying in foreign universities

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24:26 min | 5 months ago

Episode 13 @Cordss: Studying in foreign universities

"Hi everyone i'm stable and you're listening to the which is here to inspire you. Hi everyone so for today's podcast. We have a very special guest with us shock. He's doing a speech. In computer. Science from uc logano in this cutting trending topic of studying abroad netting. Every student is looking forward. Wants to study. What does study and indian currently second china in aching the enrollment for students across the globe. You've welcome to share his insights on. What compelling reasons indian students want to pursue a higher education in buying westies so let us welcome on the podcast and having inside flew the special thing idea. How are you doing thank you. Thank you very much for the introduction. Yeah an equally honored to be here part of this discussion. Yes oh yeah. It's a very topic to to begin with. So i will roughly go over the main topics that relate to this and then we could do an in depth analysis on each as the other night so first thing is a compelling reason for students to go into foreign universities the main point like the makers turn becoming richer going on freedom and thornley based on an informed decision people should go and not simply because xyz or so and so has gone. That's what you and i have to go. It should be out of genuine authentic interest and that interest shows up in each and every aspect of of the process that goes into finally ending the foreign university and everybody process. I mean the whole figuring owed which university what stream would professor Should i go to the west. East south All of these. These are some aspects that are going to the process of figuring out how to end up with a foreign university. an incident and authenticity is clean. Everything will just flow on. Its own but there are certain guidelines from people have taught in the pot which are useful in figuring out how to proceed on this bud many of us have a very strong desire ambition but the direction is not clear how to invest in Behalf and the start of the you choices of universities are turned so that's still grown grown broker dealer for today's discussion. That's very well put on dacian for the discussion. You did your graduation from it. Quasi that's right. Yes i was. I absolutely right though. Venue video graduation. What factors did you consider choosing doing your masters from internationalist rather than doing some job in india or must've strong india. What were the factors that sensitive that doing masters audience and flying would be a good decision for you. That's very nice question. Actually because from my childhood all that was put into my head was masters abroad. And i never thought or even. Give a good target about why. Somebody should undergo by someone. Shouldn't i mean. I also the big things it will happen. Naturally i ended up at one of the arctic's with much interest colin than i saw myself there The first real. I would say devolution. Camera the end of the internship. I think it was in my thirty around. I think right from two there was this buzzer owned or you should go to foreign in puerto big. Fm cg in india. And you make some money or something like we live very unexpectedly. I was australia or might and research ships. Or they're like broad things research and industrial internships in undergrad. And i did my research and It was about eight weeks. It was a wonderful experience to visit a foreign land. I think this was pretty fourteen summer. Seven years ago it was. It was a very nice experience. I would say new people who food culture and all that but the thing is. I didn't like the vote the what in australia at that time. It was look hard and party. Hard and interns. It was the story look harder. Party didn't not everybody else. Partying and talking young. Since the point was i did not get. I'd not like the vibert was along with a lot of money. But i saw the lives of storms over there and i didn't like it for the record. I was in the western part of australian put. The story would be different on the eastern coast. So things push victim and now disordered. If i should definitely do something but not hear. The process of elimination had begun compliments and by the time we are into third fourth year. We know like we denard gathered a lot of Nick knowledge of is done through these three or four years. Everything seemed shallow. And somehow all the companies were just coming in hiding us for nothing. Lectured say it was always the promise of future or it was our attitude and our history was late getting all these positions. Of course we did. Interviews overnight didn't really correlate with and kind of courses and other things that we did in these four years so the inner desire to really learn something go to their depth of the subject matter all of that poster. so i'm speaking from armed of you. Inner fire like really notice objectively. Like whatever you're interested in for me. It was mostly algorithms comparisons and i think machine learning was at that time interception or at least it was relatively newer field at that time and having done a couple of courses. I decided you are. This is a good thing. I should probably learn moldable decent nationally the things and in all this process the guidance of people in the seniors they used to conduct like inflammation sessions on harbor. Prepare for all these other examples. But essentially i would say. It's a lifetime of preparation. It's not like one month to maintain it it. It's like all the books that you've read from your childhood or all the stories movies since all of that kitson somehow investment at least I i didn't know which part would help me the exam. So i'm like a kind of guy who just goes along with the floor and many things have seen some of which you mentioned movies soaps and all these things on any of interludes the enthusiasm ambition and energy into ambition and energy at the three in sacramento and these things are also evaluated when applications are picked up by the admission office. Admissions office in these agrees. I've also had the privilege of being art of the panels. Third actually say these applications and so coming from other side also. It's very obvious that people do not have the experience at the new to conduct. I'm like good quality. Research applications are only on mostly and enthusiasm and amber take away from here so but this you decide already beautiful. Join that it's a. It gives promising future but this promising future. They're also comes a cost that people have to take in non studying abroad. So what is the cost structure of investment when somebody studying abroad and what are the criteria is if somebody wants to. Avoid any kind of scholarships. Generally i would say our first semester marred bihar yoga scholarship but shouldn't lose heart of i. We don't get scholarships but Precludes for relatively easy to get funding and without funding for to your four. Semesters i would recommend against this is morvillo the amount of beside the desire and ambition ambitious too much. Yes you can go by finding yourself completely with your family farms savings or their different ways. People find some people work for like three or four years. Save enough money. And then go. But i do a few examples in so funding was obtained by means some of our friends in the so. All it takes is like you. You speak good. English communicate well with the admissions office. And just ask other any finding opportunities and if there are like you would really get. Let's let's like a handsome. Some you good like fifteen sixteen ground duchenne waved off and on top of dirty good at least like another twenty. Two grand for your. it's almost. I got thirty seven. Forty grand funding prettier. And all it takes is to just ask nicely. Just go out and ask would modern yet literal example. I mean if you have to give i e lds. I think that's article is just prepare properly. Scored decently one hundred ten one hundred nine wherever you cleared all the cutoffs and be open explore options. Gordon ask if you're just like this. This was audience this satellite ducks waiting for the funding to come to us. It doesn't happen like that. Just gordon oscar play. There are lots of scholarships are positions. Ira positions and it's all dirt initiative and energy that matters if people spark in you how could they deny you. That's the question it's like. How could you could funding. Yes you easy listening. That's interesting one. Another foreigner like to atas yes most often we strike off our own. Application like yeah. I'm not good enough. I i don't know how to handle the situation. So it's to be A little extrovert put all ngo and see what happens. Oh that's very interesting. Point turner's young and see what's the positive thing for you been interesting one so did explanation thing we have seen indian education system has also known with the i mean by seoul advanced education system in india. Why should to study abroad. And what has been blessed expedience in your journey and since taken your masters in usa and doing your raw fish in europe civilian or your experiences. That system is quite different in europe on us and india. Of course and of course in houston. So i'd like to begin with at least when we were in our undergrad. Like from twenty seven fifteen the the kind of research output was primarily from deify issue and although pure all institutes with pure scientists and of course it was a lot of output from garrett is another very good universities in the in the other parts of india but the whole lifestyle and the working culture was the big thing like if we can do the research in india and abroad by do abroad. That was the question for us now and that was the only thing good fresh air water food teen four chemical less for these but all the things but now india is doing very well in organic farming and all these other things. So i'd say now it's a little harder to decide to leave in the back in the day was not more enticing to explore cleaner territories once by cleaner. I only mean. I'll add water and food. Which was the important factor for us and it was a popular choice than domed of three pm. Pollutants in the air and sewing society re breaching all possible inhabitation limits. All these things like kind of mirrors explore these territories uncertainty. you'll get. What is the big thing about smoking deal on and it was really enriching experience. You'll meet lot of diversity. Builder perspectives the kind of food. And kind of lifestyle. You pick up all the good things from them and sort of mutually alpha though the strongest the best version of yourself for at least tuner Yeah it's allocation of the best of the productivity of the vest and the values of the east could say that's put raven putt tonight so the such good parts coming in the broadcast. I would like less than what is a genetic process to apply if somebody wants to start afresh. What are the steps that they should pay. This magic laszlo is does wing to start applying for the flooding new wednesdays so what should be taken care of by submitting an application and a very popular town called statement of focus. So what are your intakes. What should be done niche not be done weightlifting for new cities says oprah loaded questions on backer liberals firstly. It's always easier to start early because the amount of average entity to investors moderate and it can be achieved easily delay. The later start the more energy put in. It's a little harder. But i'm preference story. How you wanted to do it. Some people don't like to get things done easily. Worn challenges the heart of it so you can focus phone if you're that type but given a good point to start is at least somewhere in the second or third is good enough or even the fourth year of your underground but this is one big face facing the other for this is after you graduate and like some some of my friends her work for three or four years and then the hard nation though so you could the dots the second most people start. The desire of the ombudsman's should be from a long long time before. At least from what i perceive if you gardener this desire right from your childhood sort of fallen into place where easily dotting aside i go into the two faces that are described so if you are in the phase one which is at some point in the. It's easier to you know go to your gre and other exams in the first or second year. When there's not much lord from your courses and other things like placements internships and all of dr. You can easily score very high points of focus your entire first summer second on these kinds of exams we regarding the second phase. The job is much harder because you really do your job in the day and then combine study at night but i have known people who have done that too. It's again it's preference or you want to do things and once again statement of purpose and a lot of other things going to finishing these applications like talking to professors getting your letters of recommendation and all those kinds of things getting transcripts parking dart and sending Of course. This was the system. When i was applying. Maybe things are changing very fast because of those of the teams the same. How much time you have left. And how much energy you have left. Based on it you have to optimize stress and mistakes crippen when the story time energy but the desires too much. Do you want to get the best of the universities but three or four years. Nothing much has been done all then. Situation's a little hard. But if you've been like in the good books for three or four years of your undergrad or maybe even two years is enough. Then it's relatively easier to get like good latest recommendation and all of that. I wonder in with another thing. Like this. still phase one. but i've known exceptional people from my own bots were sh- societa. Getting admitted into good in westchester didn't even apply debated the web for two years. And then all of the job. Experience and undergrad experience and then they landed very good positions in the us and other countries. So i can pinpoint success stories for any combination of energy time and commitment desire. I'm wishing all of that the important pointers to identify where you lie on the spectrum and honestly without ten sixty act separate and take the action that springs out of your true intention this has to be done otherwise if delude ourselves into thinking motorists like that kind of person i can also pull it off saudi court sometimes it will and then we have to like deal with the consequences of such a not so thought out right. That's very well put one and this saw the comes in a very interesting bashing with the times changing of the rod in his co. At times when we have all the situation changes what are your suggestions to people who are applying afresh our universities responding to the fresh applications any kind of changes that are there in the processes. And what are they suggestions with that. It's still premature to predict what could be the eventually find. Were universities converts to guard to how the process applications a funding is a little tight. But maybe that'll change very soon and maybe noticed this would be. I don't know what online learning taking go for. Picking of spirit so rapidly. It's very possible that if a person can learn on his own with the resources available online it would be the best skill that anyone could have in the coming years but the point so important thing is there's an infinite amount of knowledge available the right direction and gardens dot would also become vicky. How should i know what the govern- learn the right level for me to learn and this is where all these online courses are offering now and most of the universities are putting on the decrease or the so. They have online master's and other things coming up now so maybe online learning would become the future and that could be the case even for business schools and other. Nba's and nauseous monsters lord of my friends who got into the columbia and other big be schools. They haven't deferred the admissions for at least three four now and because it's like so much expense to go there and they can pick up the same amount of skill with like one percent of the investment made. It wouldn't make sense to go and they go all that heavy and that night. That's so petard. Another thing i would like was sent In this time when people are subject to understand that oh veteran having taught that understanding knowledge was his taking education through different aspects. So how do you continued the know that having education and having a knowledge of subjects that will different things. If somebody wants to be missed in that part so you mean which investments are biotic integration. Yes yes it's another really good question. So i don't have like a answer. Prison my thoughts on this law. What we have is gorgeous. Gotta clones and all. These kinds of things are doesn't matter so much how different the content is from investor to enlist your goes to goes. It is the way in which we look course. That's for ram brownie points for the education thing relocation. It's how you do have you go through. a course that's cleared. Surreal important and that real impact remains with you even after us so if you invest properly in each course if you give your one hundred percent honestly sincerely give respect to all the things that are happening in the goes in your learning experience you would take away much more than what. Even the course designers would have entered in india too so sport. That's how i see. It could be entirely different but the way in which of flight through these different courses and how you assignments. Are you honestly doing your resentment or at the top of your hands. I'll invaluable dancer land. But it's still internal joining. That happens when you go through that. That zoning advert grinds and you know when we john bottomley goes about comes up kind of thing happens insider do and so does sport reel. Education is for me and stays with you forever. Even if you've course after ten years you go and look back at the content and within minutes or hours you can pick up everything it'd be like your back in the college and you're in the classroom sitting and listening to their legit. It would living in some cases right yes. So having the impact of having a great insight from dedication and knowledge section you give a very insightful on how studying in different new mistakes look like how easy could be. Your process giving scholarships baking off the bottom of kobe times and giving cyprus things to the podcast. Thank you so much damage for the podcasts. Raiding delighted to have a talk with you and you any continuing you would like to give yar yard controlling known to be the martyr's how you do something. It doesn't matter if you do it the right way but if doing it in a different place makes you do the right within your goal and friendliest and just doing the right thing yet. That's a very very hard in meeting with talk again. So thank you so much are having this conversation and many would be inspired by your journey taking multiple courses from different parts of the world and coming to this podcast in spite of us. Thank you so much. Stay tuned with the quad cast and we launch every monday. 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Fair Or Foul?

PTI

23:24 min | Last week

Fair Or Foul?

"Pardon the interruption. But i'm mike. We'll buy back in arizona to recover from the nba playoffs. Tony kornheiser cover. Did you play in them. You know actually only made reference to. I've probably had less travel in these playoffs. Because of the sons denied ever had importing years covering basketball probably less travel probably and again slept in your own beds every single night because he so many out often. Pti boys and girls and today's episode. The walk and celebrates the bucks for san luis booze. Kenley jansen and tokyo those forward with the olympics. But we begin today with something. We've touched on briefly yesterday. The report in the houston chronicle. The texas and oklahoma are seeking admission to the sec. This would make the sec. Even more fabulous and reduce the big twelve to also ran status. We'll on what does this story tell you about the future college football tony a lot and nothing. I mean a lot in that. There's total upheaval. We've known that was coming with name. Image and likeness in theory. And now that it's in practice. We know the upheavals already started. It means the end of the nc double a. As we've known it thankfully soon maybe thanksgiving. I don't mean it won't exist but as we have known the nc double a. As big larger than life cop. They're gone they're done. they're toothless. They really are barney fife now. They have the handcuff. Some people are looking at them going to get out of here. Take a walk. Tremendous fife reference. We're so young. That i i knew you would like that. So tells us it tells us all of that and more. You got upset coaches like nick. Sabin you've got conference that are good and i. I shouldn't say upset annoyed. You got conferences. That aren't going to exist or going to have twenty four teams one or the other or both. I mean it's just it's just bedlam. It's the wild wild west. I'm stealing from you because you said that about a month ago it is it. Is we know nothing but yet we know college sports are going to be. I mean they are gonna exist in ways we never imagined so i'm just going to underscore what you have said. It is the end of the ncaa. The ncaa is over in football. I'm not saying all sports. I'm saying it's over in football. What the ncaa did was they. Were against paying the players. They were against elite conferences. They lost on all cards as they say in boxing. They're on the wrong side of history. What they did. Essentially we was guard against players. Getting paid and now players can get paid. So there's no purpose to the ncaa. What i think is going to happen. And what i think is going to happen. Soon is the forty or fifty schools that honestly believe that they can compete for the national championship will form one. Large conference would divide it into east south midwest and west. They'll take eight teams or twelve teams. They'll get an a playoff. They'll negotiate directly with television networks. Switches this one all of the money. That is out there because they don't have to split it with kansas and oregon state and vanderbilt at rutgers. They don't have to do that. They can keep all the money and they can use some of it to pay players. I'm not going to be surprised. If recruiting is going to be paying players and what we really will have. Mike is professional football. Just be called college that it'll be college but it's been pro football but let me ask you if we're going to go as far as another culture you know. We look at luca danni And we talk about him. Playing professionally says he was like fourteen tony yet the end of college athletics because they will just be these leagues that are loosely affiliated with certain schools. And maybe they'll be leagues where they're not even affiliated with certain schools anymore and they're just out there and they start recruiting these kids at thirteen and fourteen to these academies and they don't they don't matriculate in the same way you and i will come accustomed to for all our lives so my answer to that would be. That would be easier in a sport like basketball. Will you only need five players at a time. That's harder in football. There are many more moving parts but we are headed towards professionalism. There's just no doubt about that. And a lot of conferences or going out the window as is the ncaa mark out the window c. Around mark everett. Oh let's move to baseball with dodgers. Fans booed one of their own last night. The crowd closer kenley. Jansen here it after he blew a second straight. Say this one against the giants the manager. Dave roberts acknowledged the fans were right to voice their frustrations but was disappointed. Given everything janssen admitted franchise tony. Was this bullying fair or foul. Get to that in a second. I wanna praise the giants and the dodgers series. The last two games of gone to the last at bats and for people. That don't understand this. This is a real rivalry. It spans about ninety years and three thousand miles. It is a real big deal. Okay are they right to do him. he's got. I know he blew his last two saves. He's got a one forty five. Era going into last night. The last time he lost to the giants at home was hello. Two thousand thirteen two thousand fourteen some of the longtime ago and that is mariano rivera land. But i have to tell you like. I watched the nets all the time when they put in and he gives up a home run right away when they put in brad hand he blows and other game. I sit in front of the set. And if i wasn't so afraid that someone would take me i would do. I would do this at. I agree with a dodger manager. You shouldn't do it but it would be my impulse. Yes so you know. Relief pitchers and particularly closers. The field goal kickers. The new place. Kickers placekicker you love them when they make that last one to beat the cowboys nineteen eighteen but then two weeks later when they blow one they go double. Thank you boo. Like a mad personality parkey. Yeah this was wrong. For dodgers people to boo kelly. James this is wrong. I understand as clubs fan. I mean closers are not the lack of closers kept us from the world series like three or four times in the last twenty years. So i get it philosophically which can't do it. It's awful for dodgers fans and do it'll be ashamed of themselves. They're playing against the giants. They got a real tough division. Near including the padres padres giants dodgers. This thing's going around around him and if all they wanna do boost somebody every time. There's a tough night. i'm gonna start laughing at them. Even though i generally speaking support the dodgers. I wanna to go back to something that we talked about yesterday off air because we couldn't get it on on the air. When will smith Homerun that beat the giants the walk off. He's a catcher by the way when you hit that home run the last time that the dodgers beat the giants who they played nineteen times every single year for one hundred years the last time they beat the giants in a walk off when they were trailing was done by another catcher. Roy campanella is nine thousand. Nine hundred forty who. I remember roy campanella. How old mine before you answer. We move on. The opening ceremonies at a tokyo olympics will be broadcast here tomorrow at seven. Am eastern time. We've talked at length about these olympics. And whether we should even have them given the virus concerns woman what story line do you find most compelling about what we're going to see in the next two weeks how about who's competing. That's what i want to know. I'm not talking about the people with endorsement deals that you know like half the amount of alabama quarterback. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about tony. You and i used to go to the olympics. We didn't even need a scorecard. We didn't need a lineup. we didn't need rosters. We knew everybody competing in every sport. Now i don't know anybody because of the pandemic because in two thousand twenty we weren't we weren't we couldn't pay attention to that. It just wasn't front of mind. It wasn't time there wasn't space. That wasn't the urgency for it and so now he gets twenty one and we're still sort of preoccupied with our the gains even going on tony. We've gone two years. We're gonna happy olympic cycle with. I can't tell you who. The american favourite is in the one hundred meter. I can't tell you. Even though that is one of my favorite events of all time. And i've known the roster of people going back to jesse owens. I don't know them anymore so storyline. How about who's in the olympics. Can we start there interesting. I mean you been two more olympics than i have. But i've been five and people always ask you when you're a sports writer. What's the greatest venue ever covered one hundred meters and soul to johnson. Carl lewis and i was ten yards from the finish line. The second one may be tonya. Harding and nancy. Kerrigan and lula hammer. Because i wrote about it every day for two weeks. I was totally involved. Look i wanna see katie. The decking against this woman from australia who was bettered katie la- deck times. I wanna see simone biles. Because she's probably the greatest gymnast ever. I want to see all the track and field. There is the like you. I don't know the names of the people involved. I'm going to watch the end of the decathlon. I'm gonna watch fencing and rowing the sports that most people watch most of the time here basketball or golf tennis care about those in the olympics. Kind of him picks you've been to five. I've been to ten olympics right. I want to know who the new alexander karelin is. I know you know the russian bear. Because he didn't lose twenty years. Who's that but i mean. Just the people. Nbc shows us stars and stripes. No no no. No no the olympics you learn about the greatest athletes low in the world. Not and. I don't know that. I feel bad about it because i don't ace i wanna know who's the next pocket hercules. I've been weightlifting disorder. Leads grow yeah. Let's take a break coming up in. The walkie cheers the bucks title but are the nets more likely to win the east next season. What are the realistic chances at chris. Paul leaves the desert the lake at the end of the decathlon. When it's dark and you run in the fifteen hundred and you're gasping for air. That's fantastic drama body. But now we're just watching events do own or rent your home share you and i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. 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I would also like to point out that one of the teams they beat the nets. Were missing one of their key. Players kyrie irving and one of their other key players. James harden was not playing one hundred percent right. So if you look at the best. Three players on milwaukee onto tacoma bow and chris middleton and holiday. You gonna tell me you would take them over. Healthy kyrie irving healthy. James harden healthy kevin durant. Because i don't believe you're gonna do that so again all credits milwaukee. Enjoy it if you're asking me about next year. I think the nets will win. It's not something. I like it something. I expect winning a championship. In any sport any sport transforms you and in basketball teams. When more than one all the time all right. So i believe that. The milwaukee bucks no law of the milwaukee bucks or two years ago or last year there the milwaukee books of this championship week and moving forward. I'm gonna take them over. The brooklyn nets who i can't rely on. I can't count on it. Got too many wildcards tony. Even when lebron formed the super team they struggled in miami. They want to. it should have won. One san antonio spurs did you to rebound. They got one okay. That's a championship team. In milwaukee the nets after put one together they are very capable because those are great great great great players one and all but these guys have one and they got their chest poked out and they are ready to go and jaanus the two time. Mvp with a ring. I take a walkie bucks that's fun. What's next tossup. Better team for chris paul. Next season the sons or the lakers. So wilpon you will love this. I got yelled at last night by our friends. Bill simmons and david israel and they said what are you talking about. He can't go to the lakers. There's no money with the lakers. That's not going to happen. And maybe they're right. My position is if people wanna make things happen they can make things happen. What we've learned in the nba. The last ten to fifteen years a league that is run by players. What we've learned is that players can move if they want to move that there's no such thing as an untreatable contract. Chris paul's old he may have one more shot at it. He's been nomad the last three years. Three different teams in three years. He lives in los angeles. I'm gonna play with lebron james as dear friend and anthony davis. I think they're going for as much as it pains me as i sit here a few miles from the arena. Where the sons did they had their magic season and their their play that they practice and live in as much as it. Pains me the lakers. Lebron lebron is friendship goes back for forever. Have their lives right. And what is lebron. You got here. The russell westbrook rumors. Don't tell me the russell. Westbrook fits in a team with lebron james the same way chris paul would and. I don't know what chris is going to do. I haven't asked him lately. And i don't even know that he knows he may know. Maybe he doesn't know yet. These days here sons are going to have a shot to my friend. Kendrick perkins the sons are. I can't he knew eye candy. And there are people around the league. Just like the lakers. Or call and chris paul. They're saying hey. I'll complain arizona. Wind chris paul and devon booker andy andrea eight and he can stay here and do this but but tony it pains me to say this but the answer is probably like chris paul's number. I got it here. You can put it on your little work that's it. Let's take one last break still to come. Tom brady boy has some words for the teams have passed on him. Still a will your mercedes return to the white sox man white sox got a lot going on. This is dc an rc. I'm daniel corny. I'm a former two division champion. And i'm a bad mama. Jam yes he is. And i'm ryan clark former super bowl champ. Be sure to follow new podcast wherever you can. We wanna talk m inmate. We're gonna talk sports life. We have a great time. 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He won the cy young in nineteen seventy seven. His real name is albert walter. Lyle but he was called sparky at an early age. I'm quoting him here. My dad wanted a dog. He explained slough was a clubhouse prankster. Who would sit naked on birthday cakes fishing water coolers and linen teammates toothpaste to on a personal note. Lyle once told me it was inevitable that it would have a bad night and the trick was to forget it as soon as possible and get back up on that tightrope. Those clubhouse prankster guys covered baseball. I was wearing them. But it sounds like you light sparky lot sounds like did i did. Like sparky liked. Reggie more of course but i like mortgage happy anniversary dream team on this day. Twenty nine years ago. The nineteen ninety two united states olympic basketball team held a scrimmage that michael jordan insists is the greatest game ever played in the players were divided up into two teams. Blue and white. Blue was magic johnson. Charles barkley david robinson. Chris mullin christian lady white was jordan. Karl malone patrick ewing scottie. Pippen and larry bird clyde drexler and john. Stockton did not participate because of injuries olympic coach. Chuck daly simply said quote. All you got now all you got quote white one. Four to thirty six and sports illustrated called the greatest game. Nobody ever saw. I want to stop any debate right. Now there's only one dream team this one it is. The greatest basketball team ever assembled players on other countries were so honored to play against them. They took pictures with the dream team. Have to reach. Preach look tony. I was with a handful of writers who recovering that team and we sat. If my memory serves correctly right outside the door. Sort of waiting for to end as jack mccallum. I think wrote the. Nobody's talk because nobody was in there except the team. David duprey sam smith mark. Hi sue jack. Mccallum might have been a couple of others but you know all those people and we sat out there. And i have talked to magic about this game and charles about this game michael about this game all really and what they all say is this is the greatest basketball competition. I was ever involved in coastal doubt them. You wanna doubt those guys and you think you've been on the team as good as that you would be mistaken. Happy trails to your mean mercedes retirement. The white sox rookie who was recently demoted to aaa. Charlotte wrote an instagram post yesterday that he is stepping aside from baseball indefinitely. You remember mercedes gained notoriety in may when he hit a three nothing three and hope pitch not three nothing to pitch for a homer in route over the twins his manager. Tony larussa criticized mercedes for swinging that pitch and then celebrating that home run but then today mercedes wrote another post on instagram. With an image of a phoenix rising from the ashes instated quote. I will never give up. I love everybody back. We'll on the white sox in this guy your account my count but they are fascinating a fascinating team fascinating to watch guys like louis robert eloy jimenez. Yes mighty grondahl. They haven't even really been with the team. These guys are all star level players. I think they're all going to join nick magic out. He's been out in his out. They just got nassar's all over the lineup. They're fun to watch. We need to pay more attention to them. They don't get covered nationally like the cubs. Do and this white sox team is fascinating. We're running on a show and go to the big finish. The nfl teams will have to forfeit if a covert outbreak among unvaccinated forces. A postponement that can't be rescheduled within the eighteen weeks season. What does that mean. This is ramping up the pressure on players who have a vaccinated to do so to give back planning sick chat with jim great. Tom brady light and teams have passed him and free agency last year to a team passing on a michael jordan. 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What is the most powerful waning crescent moon magic

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What is the most powerful waning crescent moon magic

"Which stages is both natural and Powerful concurrently now is the time of the waning crescent moon just a few days before the Magnificent Darkmoon off just about anything is possible. Hello, my friends Welcome to our podcast live here on the Facebook page magic self and spirit. I'm Steve one of the co-owners chaos magician Clairvoyant spiritual bath water in the healing. We are in the format of a sample class today. This is the kind of content that we work with each week in the spiritual CrossFit gym in the office and we would also have a transportation or meditation and a group coaching session every week to accompany. The teaching materials. There are links provided. If you are ready to build your spiritual practice and create the life, you choose come join us. What is the most powerful waning crescent moon Magic? We've arrived in time for waning crescent moon magic. It is the penultimate phase of the magical Moon perhaps under used by some magickal practitioners jeta correspondences are a valuable part of the lunar cycle for the solo practitioner and which are like, what is the best waning crescent moon magic the waning crescent moon is a time to look Inward and dissolve the obstacles to Achieve Personal magical and spiritual growth. This is Shadow work diving into the darkness of your unconscious mind to find both those believes holding you back. And transmute them. We are only a few nights away from the delicious stirrings that reveal themselves from deep within our unconscious mind on the Dark Moon on the darkest nights in the moon. We experience opportunities to release all that no longer serves us. We danced with the spirits of The Dark Knight rejoicing in the power of our Primal selves. For more information on the Dark Moon and others check out our Blog the seven magical phases of the Moon. Recently, there's a fascinating meditation tool that I found he comes in the shape of oracle cards known as moonology meditating on Thursday helps me to understand the magic of the phases of the moon. The traditional way to use an oracle deck is to dig deeply into the guide books and inscription on the cards. How long what I tend to do is notice what is written on the cards and then more or less ignore it? I love the moonology cards for their artwork. They are broader and more detailed and just seven phases of the moon the address which particular style constellation. The Moon is present in a different times. For example full moon in cancer usually in January when the sun is Hong Kong. as a meditation tool how I've worked with them is to take two or three of the cards a day. I choose one of them relating to the phase of the moon. I am in at that moment and two random thoughts I meditate on each card in turn first. I sit down and I get myself into a meditative State and close my eyes. Then I visualized the details of the card returning my mind again off again to its image. I opened myself to receive whatever information that arrives in my mind as gnosis information been granted to me by spirit. Sometimes the information arrives in the meditation or more often over the next few days I use this info information to put together my moon magic for this phase of the moon song Let me see if I can show you some of the cards just here. Get the camera right for example. Or I'm just doing this randomly so I don't. That one how's this for a new moon in Capricorn? The pre coll on there. Full moon in Gemini never mentioned that one but this one's a beautiful card. Let's see get the camera, right? That kind of stuff. It's one of the things that I use around meditation anyway, because there's a thing with particularly with magic that Sure, we'll go with what works go with what's already been tested all of those kind of things but at the same time, you know. Go with your own nurses go with your own magic develop your own magic in your own way. And this is one of the ways to do that say with moon magic Soul example at the moment. We're on the waning crescent moon. I think it's called the waning moon in in the book. I'm sorry on the cards and That particular car says what do you need to release? Oh, by the way, April's going to leave a link in the description if you're interested in those cards. We find a meditation practice to be a foundational skill for all magical and spiritual workings. It is especially helpful in any kind of Shadow work and the best way to access the voices of your unconscious mind. And you know if you want to work more and meditation check out our blog on Transportation or meditation, which I'm sure April from you already left. So that we all have a number of obstacles to overcome to manifest the life that we choose in whatever fields we happen to be in at that moment in time and between a full moon and the new moon phases. We have those opportunities as those gradually less light the darkness invites us to look Within. This is a time to release obstacles to your goals. And in your life in general. Probably the greatest hindrances are represented by your beliefs values and morals the greatest obstacles to the life that you choose. I represented by your beliefs values and morals. They can block the realization of your magic. What you think should be? Is right to me is good to me. Is on the side of light whatever it may be. You'll probably find that they're the greatest blocks. To your magic. They are the greatest obstacles to realize the life that you choose. Because primarily their borrowed from the herd mind primarily their borrowed from what other people think they are. Not you in your creativeness. Many of these beliefs are held in your unconscious mind to a certain extent. They remain hidden from your awareness. So you can actually be holding some of these beliefs that are blocking your conscious mind that are blocking your magic the upload it blocking your manifestation completely unconsciously you bought into them as a child because they were in your family. They were in a school they were in your local Society wherever And this is what the shadow Magics all about is getting hold of them and transmuting them. The time of the waning crescent moon provides the perfect opportunity. To identify some of these obstacles were just talking about here and magically dissolve them or transform them. We share some of these techniques in our book unlock the power of your inner child because your unconscious mind in that way of thinking often presents as you're in a child off and those techniques that we work in there that I'm going to talk a little bit about here. They harmonize. With the waning crescent moon magic beautifully the unlock the power of your inner child. We work in a couple of ways with we wrote a book on we run. We've run a course on Etc. It's a very very powerful way of being and working in our book we identify different approaches to the inner child one of them works with what we call our inner children and let me Define. These are kind of like broken off pieces of the psyche usually dramatized in childhood. Now, what would traumatize you now on with it so much as you as a child, maybe two different things but there's still a traumatizing experience for the child and that bit of the psyche that bit of the so broke off, but it's still present. That bit of the psyche became stuck in a traumatic event and buried in the unconscious mind these splintered parts of self-control to vibrate the energy of hurt and drama they cause cause obstacles and other negative challenges to manifest in your life that bring their pain to light bulb. It's like they because they deliberately they don't deliberately cuz they're unconscious but they emanate that energy of the trauma over and over again in your life. So that trauma presenting in different ways. Until you heal and resolve that trauma and we'll show you a way of doing that in the moment, but it's like it continuously works that way you may notice that your challenges have a pattern they may they may always be almost the same thing sure. They're presenting a different way in a different circumstance or whatever the root of them's the same. It's like it maybe money it maybe relationships maybe sex. It may be worthwhile ever, but they over and over keep repeating. Until you heal them. Do I activate waning crescent moon magic? We dive into Shadow work accessing deepest parts of self to heal are in a children one of the approaches Wheel of Life mask work. So let's say we're going to work with money. Okay waning crescent moon Magic Ritual for money. So here is an idea of a way of working both ways. Okay, let's say for whatever reason. There are blocks in the creation of your reality around money and you don't actually produce enough money. And obviously that is a stressful thing. So Create a Sacred Space for yourself. It can be outside. It can be in your room. It can be in your living room somewhere where you can work magically without being disturbed or if you're going to be somebody else is going to be there. They need to be working with you or at least holding space. Okay? include your alternator Auto can just be you know, a stool or a small table or something, but On your old for this particular thing light a candle white or silver would be a good idea and some incense lavender incense May well as it has correspondences connections with serial the seraphim the angel of the Moon. place the candle in each of the four directions East South north So I ate South Western North now, I don't mean on the altar. I mean wherever you are say you're in a room. You're creating a Sacred Space, which is a circle and in the four quarters the southwestern North have a candle at the extreme ends. Okay? And light them in that order start in the east go to the South go to the west to go to the north and when you're do it when you're doing it think about. The work the magical work you're about to do think about the magic you're about to think about the energy that you're about to work with keep focused make the very lighting of the candles part of the ridge make the lighting of the incense part of the ritual make it honoring. Sit behind your altar and face North. Identify, which obstacle you're choosing to transmute let's say for example, it's a difficulty manifesting money. Now. This is this can work with any other obstacle. We just chose money cuz you know people find money important for some reason Get yourself into a reflector for a meditative State of Mind. Ask out loud. Do I have any inner children? Who have a problem with us manifesting? Good money. I didn't expect that but as I was asking that question for this video, I've done a lot of work with my inner children. They normally will come out and say yes, but there's quite a few of them shouting. No, we have no problem, which is nice home. Okay, it's likely that your experience at least one very young version of you appearing in your mind or imagination. They maybe three or four years old and struggling with an objection for examples the objection May well be like, yes. My dad said that the love of money is the root of all evil and I don't want to be evil or something on that kind of line. It will be something to do with your past that you may not even remember directly. But your unconscious mind does. Imagine that on your altar and I'm going to use the example that of father because we're just using that example. Yeah. Imagine on your altar is a mask of your father's face off or obviously whoever else were talking about in your mind's eye. Put on the mask and feel it become one with your face. Talk to the inner chill child or children as your father would. But speaking of Gentle Way in the way that you would wish he had spoken to him. So this about the ideal. Okay, something like a little one. It's very important to bring money into your life. So you can live happily and help the people you love. If you love people more than money it is good. So you're kind of turning this around as your father or whoever whatever face obstacles that you're in a change brought up. As the objections dissipate invite the inner children concerned to allow their energies to transmute and return to your primary energy Fields. Remember the young children are like broken off bits of the psyche. So once you've cleared the objections, once you've cleared the reasons that are broken off absorbed them into your energy, okay? At the time knows the obstacles to money are dissolving and you have the power to manifest money this way remove the mask and then out laughing out loud invoke at the the power of the waning crescent moon. So something like I call you great power of the waning crescent moon great power that can dissolve. obstacles I Revel in my Primal self Great Moon to send on me or something on those lines and then imagine a beamer silvery Moonlight coming from the skies and filling your body in orick fields and allow it to change and to charge your intention and complete the self-healing close to the original. Fuel your fantasies into goals for daily life. We all have fantasies that we think we're unable to realize in our lives. We hold goals that others around us off and our histories may suggest are impossible. The waning crescent moon corresponds. Well when it comes to Breaking Free of these limitations on what is possible. That's one of my favorite authors Richard Bach wrote in his book running from safety from time to time. It's fun to test our certainties. Pretend their lives. So those things that you are absolutely certain of that. There was no way that you could really manifest in your life because it's impossible pretend the lies. Different day do it for a week do it for a month. See what happens? It seems to me there are what I've I've talked about two kinds of fantasies. There is a third as well one fantasy if you like is There are things that you would enjoy manifesting but you do not believe a possible. So therefore you don't even try to manifest your belief is so strong that they're impossible. And then the other kinds of fantasies. The actually you would prefer just to leave a fantasy as you're not looking to manifest some you like the fact that fantasies now, obviously I'm talking about the first one. The third one is I suppose at the moment in our Collective Consciousness wage and where we are even when we're reaching out above that. There are things that are certainly I'm going to be careful with this. I'm not going to say they're impossible, but certainly almost impossible for where we are in our Collective level of consciousness. Who knows what's possible beyond that but as far as we understand there are things that it's probably not a great deal of used for us to be reaching for right at this point until we Master other parts of our lives at least fuelling fantasies during this magical moon phase time begins to break our beliefs and attachments to our perceived limitations. Now, obviously we're talking about the the fantasies that we believe we can't do but we would actually like to change yet identify something that you would really choose to manifest in your life. If you believed what possible it may be about say being a millionaire. It may be something like I don't know that you could travel the rest of your life freely those kind of things. It may be something that you would feel is impossible for you to achieve in your current state or it may be as simple as I don't know living your life in complete happiness or the exact relationship you want as a whole number of things that could be but at the moment that at least at one level there's a sense of impossibility about it. Creating a waning crescent moon magic spell to empower these goals. Set up your altar as above with either white or silver candles. And burn some incense again lavender may be a good option. So you got One Candle on the Altar and some incense and then said stick incense, resin whatever okay. Play some light a candle again white or silver in each of the four directions. Sit down behind your altar Facing East. Imagine you're sitting under the waning crescent moon just before Daybreak. If vote the magic of the waning crescent moon into your ritual Circle. For example, we could you could use these words and they're on they're on the blog that April sharing. I caught in the goddess of the moon. I evoke you silver. He got a sister of Earth and daughter of the night sky. Mistress of cycles of light and dark with dominion over the tides of water and blood matron of the night come with the power trans mute obstacles and fuel the energies in my fantasies. Raat me self-discipline to execute the magic of cultivating my inspirations. Guide the journey to Hidden places within my unconscious mind at this time of the waning crescent moon. And then I would chance an incantation to call Magic from everywhere. Now. I tend to work with one another magician shared on YouTube and I felt very powerful. It's actually Millions call all the magic from everywhere in the in the universe. It's about you man tantive s Patrick a towel. It's a random and column and had to built a sewage. It's rats and tentative L Jackson. It's not you meant antivirus Patrick Altima with random and column and add soup bowls. Vizcarra. It's red suit Canton to Village Johnson. It's regiment antivirus Patrick Altima with random Ankara Manta to spell super cala. It's red suit content to vouch answer and that was by a guy called back and I use a lot for different Magics and it's very very powerful. I would check on that over and over and over again until you feel your Sacred Space just buzzing with energy. Close your eyes and visualize or imagine yourself living the fantasy. As if you were living it now. Either speak the story aloud. All grab a pen and paper and write the story as if you were living it exaggerated the story. exaggerated so far into the ridiculous For example, you've become so rich and Powerful. I'm taking it into the ridiculous. You grow so powerful that you become Master of the Galaxy or something like that that kind of level of ridiculous. Open your eyes and write down the outcome of the original Fantasy. as a goal Starting with the words. It is my will okay now going back to what I said about exaggerating it the point of exaggerations if she makes it funny when his funny you lose any Connection attachment or whatever to what obstacles you believe are in place by making it funny you laugh at the obstacles in the obstacles loosen their power and Thursday beliefs that don't serve you loosens their power until there's nothing hindering your goal which is why I say exaggerated into something ridiculous. Workings to inspire discipline now discipline is a really really interesting one. It's seen as a negative word and often it has been in our backgrounds. But there are some reasons that actually is a very very powerful word a very powerful way for us to work. Mission about yourself in spirit is to empower you to build a spiritual and magical practice. We see your unique path to Sacred and Powerful. So your path not my past not April's past not religions path, whatever but your personal path is what we say is sacred and Powerful. One of the tenants of a path like this is for you to construct a daily practice. We recommend including meditation invocation or every nation and whatever magickal workings you're choosing to work with at that time. We recommend both meditation and Magic daily, and that will begin to build your path. The art of Mastery is consistency. Again, Richard Bach the illusions of the adventure Illusions The Adventures of a reluctant Messiah the author I told you about earlier you are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it true. You may have to work it out. However. Perhaps the greatest challenges to building self-discipline today light into opposing beliefs or emotions the first bought a pack of self-esteem. 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Asian-American Representation on Reality TV

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Asian-American Representation on Reality TV

"Alot welcome in the spirit of may being asian pacific history month are she has decided to record this podcast discussion representation of asian-americans on reality television by any was kevin mclean. And i'm excited to talk about this. Very important issue with fellow archie asian american correspondent joseph. Hi sasha hi. Kevin so excited to be here mitsu. How's it going good. I am grateful that you reached out to me honestly did have this conversation because i think we've all in our houses. I'm sure had this talk about reality. Tv and representations so really beautiful that we're finally getting to bring it to the listeners. Absolutely and i guess maybe the first thing we should cover as wise is such an important topic to even have. Why even have this podcast to begin with. Yeah i am an indian american. So for example that may be forget india's part of asia southeast asia and it is something doing especially this month. I think has a been a big issue where you know. Asians have been dealing with a lot of stuff honestly for lack of better word and especially in reality tv. It's been for a long time that we've been dealing with you. Know a lot of stereotyping. A lot of negative things that will discuss in the podcast. But for me personally. I have been so excited to see some representation because as someone that's passionate about social justice about being an indian american and tv. I'm excited about this. And i think that's hashtag stop. Asian hate was trending not too long ago and it really elevated the conversation issue that asian americans face and sometimes not even really discuss that much in the discourse about racial injustice in the united states so i am exceptionally excited and i do think it's very important for people to engage in this conversation and listen to it whether you're asian or asian american or if you just know asian people or if you know asian people don asian people maybe the best thing to listen to is this podcast and i know that the black voices podcast called so much attention of very important issues. Both on and off the show survivor. And so we're hoping to in. You know engage that discourse about the asian american experience on television and some of the common tropes initiatives that we see in media as well but before we analyze all of this. I just wanna give it back to you. Sasha to have you explain a little bit about your asian background and experiences as an asian american person. Yeah i as an immigrant. I moved to this country when i was fourteen. So you know they heavy accent all of those things but interestingly over the course of like creating this podcast in our script and really thinking through my experience something that really came up for me was how i actually ended up like actively trying to lose my accent because you know i grew up in oklahoma. Where you know. A lot of people didn't look like me especially in my school. And i had to other indian friends and they're still my friends to this day growing up and it's really an interesting piece where i've constantly had to figure out you know. What does it mean to be. Asian american in the united states. And how do we you know. It's kind of like eastern culture that we have that we hold so deep with our families especially in with our community and marrying that rate with our western life that we currently have so. It's definitely an interesting moment where we often you know fall into a lot of these. Steer your types where we are you know the i know i've been stereotyped personally You know just being like oh you must be smart. You must be the you must be all of these things and teachers might tell you otherwise just right. you know. it's really interesting to grow up like that and really like feel like oh what. Maybe i'm the only one or maybe there's not enough of me out there. So yeah that's just kind of like my have baggage is the right word. Mike's bringing to this podcast and to this kind of space. Yeah no. I think that's very interesting and did you oklahoma for a while or yeah actually going to school there the college as well so i did my high school undergrad and masters in oklahoma but it was a beautiful space for me. I would not trade those experiences or those years for anything. But it's definitely interesting and i live in the bay area now which is very different. Were surrounded by like especially for me indian folks everywhere south asians everywhere where food is readily available whereas you know. I remember which is like the most cliche thing ever but you know asking my mom not to pack a lunch at curry lunch. Romy because you know. I don't want the cafeteria or folks to look at me because i was quote unquote different enough whereas now when i moved to california to the bay area and everyone was like you have to give me all your indian food recommendations. You know all of your spots to go e because we love the food so it was an interesting moment like the more i grow up and really like feeling confident in my. You know shoes in my identity as well. What about you kevin. I think have a very similar journey. Asian american in the sense that i was born here. My mom was the immigrant who came a few years earlier. But i liked hearing the fact that you know as indian person from oklahoma. I'm filipino person from virginia. And most asians united states live in either california or new york essentially and so i think that living in more rural or more conservative or more working class place discuss so we have our own perspectives. But yeah i'm half filipino. Half white so if you're ever wondering why my name is kevin mclean. Sounds like a white guy. It's because i'm named after a white guy which is my dad and philippines is in southeast asia. A and it's definitely just like india has been on. The periphery of i. Think the idea of what is to be agent right. Sasha have you heard of the show king of the hill you can with this. So maybe you know the about to get to but when the asian family moves in and the rural white conservative men in the neighborhood. Ask him where he's from. Essentially they go. Are you chinese. Or japanese And he goes. I'm lotion and he goes well are. Are you chinese or japanese. And he goes. No laos is a landlocked country in southeast asia. Saw chinese japanese. And i felt that way so much i think as a kid right and my dad was in the military. That's how my family met each other. So i grew up in a working class area and i need didn't even know there was a stereotype that asians were supposed to be like high income high achievers. At all like the idea of us being doctors engineers didn't occur to me because most of the filipinos that i knew worked on the military base as barbers or cashiers. It wasn't even the idea of the filipino nurse. Which is a common stereotype. That exists but yeah. I think i had a lot of issues being in asian american person. My mom was definitely a tiger mom in the classic sense of the term. Put me in all the activities. I played the cello. I was always involved club. And i remember asking her. Why did you enroll in swimming like you. Don't swim my dad's on a competitive swimmer. Why in this. And she told me point black point blank. She said well. That's four white people. Do yep and i was like. Oh so we're kind of bluntly she made me understand that. We're trying to fit into this racial hierarchy. We're not trying to turn the apple cart over. You're trying to fit in and succeed. And so i think you know a lot of me on like having that inside had made me almost a little bit resentful towards the other asian children in the school system. Because i didn't wash anime or break dance. Do all these other stereotypical things kind of had internalized anti-asian feelings in the way that i think there's a lot of gay men out there and as a gay person myself i can say this internalized homophobia because we're product for society even if we are part of those groups that we have issues with. But i'm really excited to talk about this. I know it's been a journey for both of us in our own identities but before we get into it. I think it's important that i do a quick disclaimer before we dive in. Obviously sasha and i do not speak for all and this is just a conversation. A discussion between two asian reality tv fans adding to the discourse representation as we're talking in your living room and we won't be able to cover all topics stereotypes or shows. Newsflash asians watch the same. Tv shows a but we invite you to add to our conversation online with the hashtag rhp. asian Just remember to be kind and respectful in anything that you say you might notice that rob you know is not here on this episode. Sasha did you want to comment on that yeah We just wanted to say you know. We're just extremely grateful that as reality. Tv consumers a which we feel like we are we are able to. I deep dive deeper into asian american representation year on our heaven and i. of course we'll be speaking from our own lived experiences as asian americans and really what we are. We what we have seen on tv. And what we are perceived from that we wanted to really focus on highlighting and discussing asian voices and asian representation. Instead of kind of feeling preachy. Wanted to keep it to just the two of us but we want to say thank you so much to rob and really the team for giving us the space to have this conversation and when i first post raw about this he was really excited and told us you know we definitely wanna get this on the air and said you know. Let us know how we can help. So i appreciate that. He understands that we want to elevate diverse voices and that he's been a strong ally. So we're gonna move on to talking about all things asian. But i guess another quick disclaimer on. This is such a sensitive topic. It's so important. We want to clarify the scope that recovering because asia is the largest continent in the world and more people live in asia than all the other continents combined so even the term asian is different in different parts of the world. So in the united states we usually think about east asians when we hear the term asian where in the uk might be more south. Asian or the indian subcontinent. Right so for this. Podcast were honing in on the asian asian american experiences of those with dissent from east south and southeast asia. And you may notice. That may is asian pacific heritage month. We will not be covering pacific islanders. And this is because there's been a lot of debate about severing the term asian american pacific islander often abbreviated two. And this is because there's this idea that when we refer to. Api or asian. American pacific islander issues were really just talking about asian issues. We're not talking about pacific islanders and so causes an issue of more than inclusion and so in respect to that we'll be focusing again on asian american contestants experiences you'll also notice that we will not be focusing on middle eastern or south west asian identities. Because they are typically not associated with more mainstream asian american experiences the us census bureau actually identifies those from the middle east as white and so while these groups face somewhat similar and also unique barriers to inclusion like as do and they may also identify as asian or asian american or api. Just that we are deliberately not focusing on them so we can be as specific as possible on already. What is a complicated and deep topic. Also i would like to mention that this while. This is a serious topic. Don't believe this is going to be morose serious boring podcast. You know we have big personalities. There's a reason why we're on. Hr cheap anyways alley. Wong humorously tackles asian identity or chris rock with him being black we can inject different levels of humor and energy in our takes our analysis so with all of that said and i was a lot to say. Sasha what do you think is the largest issue facing asian representation on reality television. I great question. And i think something you and i have discussed For a while when we were talking about this podcast. But i think for me i is even visibility right like there are so many sub topics to that so many issues of things that show up when we do get cast but i think the first and biggest issue at least for me is really that we are sometimes excluded from the discourse. I think the most recent example can be with what happened on big brother canada. Actually where the smoke. A lot about You know black. Indigenous people of color being represented in big brother canada which they were. It was a great cast. Y'all know that. I feel that way and rohan and julie. Bu weren't really given a platform to speak about their experiences. And i know that. I'm talking about big brother. Canada america but i think it's just the most recent example that maybe a lot of listeners have heard already so one is yet that we barely get cast in a lot of these and if we you get cast. It's very much the tired tropes of you know we. I'm sure things will get into that. Were intelligent or nerdy and the model minority myth which will also get into a little bit more and define it better than heaven. Oh what about you like. Is that what you're thinking. What what are your. Yes oh yeah. Visibility has to be the biggest one. So it's like either invisible or were a character. Aren't you happy. We gave you something like this. But it's like it's like the most tired simplistic trope. And i think it's like when we talk about racial justice and i think representation people's men's are very confused. It's like what you want us to see race. But you don't want us to see which one is it and it's like well you think should be knowledgeable of like group dynamics historical context. But no. that's not the same for every single person. So i always say that you know it's really helpful to know that african americans have higher incarceration and police brutality against them but that does not mean that you should assume that any black person you run into on the street has had that experience right and so when it comes to asian representation on television you know we love and we really do like nerdy stereotypical agents. Who were on television. And they're not bad people. We're not here to criticize them as individuals but we do want complex representation. We want to host a different asians. We want strong asians week asians and complicated asians as different parts of the asian continent asians for different parts of the united states with different experiences. That's what we want and so this analysis. This conversation is really about kind of figuring out what is to be an asian on television and also even asian receiving this television. But i think we should go through some of the more common tropes i what are what are some of the ones that you think. I know you mentioned intelligent quickly. Yeah i think it's it's this idea right. That like asians or like people that look asian. Whatever however you want to say. It are often to me at least edited and presented ask. We're intelligent euro. You're either like stem adjacent if that makes sense in stem science technology engineering and math. So you know you're almost adjacent because you could be any of those or probably your doctor. You know one of those moments and a a lot of the times were seen as like. Oh you are. You should be smart. you should be sneaky. You know you are this you are that we're and those are the kind of people i feel like get cast a lot. Is these kind of people that are fit. That quote unquote stereotype. Which is to me the person that rakes is. Actually james from big brother seventeen and then eighteen coup is like he's adopted by. Has you know what this like rural at like upbringing whereas cammo like i love him because he's the emphasis of everything that i feel like quote unquote production casting like asks of asians and even a benign easter from the amazing race. They they're both engineers from the bay area again. Very stereotypical very like quote unquote. Intelligent nerdy were likable because they actually have personalities and they were cast very. Well i would say of to show to show their full selves and not just as kind of one part of their selves agree and i think the james is one is a great example. And he wanted america's favorite house guest as well and i voted for him for that reason. Seen asian american on television who was so different than what we're used to seeing nand who also wasn't is smart sunday morning things i mentioned here but he's not like the nerdy asian the introverted asian. And someone who is also who'd never be described as bookish in my opinion it's nice to see someone who is who is not quite that as well you know. I think you'll and yamen from cook. Islands and fiji respectively. We're really praised for their nerdiness. And i think they were rightfully deserving of that. There are really fun characters to watch. But i think it's really important to remember that like asian americans don't need to be brainy or intelligent to be valued right. I think the same critique happens a lot when there has been the black youth have been killed by police. you know they don't have to be a rising star. They don't have a star athlete or highly intelligent or nearly perfect to feel like their life matter and so i don't think it's important to remember that while you know agents are capable of being intelligent and most people see us as such not. Everyone is worth should not be based in your perception of our intelligence right. I mean how often have you heard or at least i've heard of course we're going to math. You're asian a little diminishing people's experiences and our hard work in their efforts nerdy intelligent. That's a really big one. I think the other one is like introversion that comes with that. it's the shyness. I was thinking back about the three. I like asian american contestants. And i wrote down as sheyanne daniel. Liu and bruce. And they're all kind of introverts Who deal with like social inclusion. Sorry social cohesion differently. Yeah yeah thoughts about those those individuals. Yeah i think in for those of you. Don't know but i covered survivor thailand for r. j. p. i can't even remember as what top or were season. And if that makes it was like i had a visceral reaction to how they were treating she and because again it feels so just. I don't look like she sheyanne right like at all. But i look. I've been there. I've been there with the person that's eating something gross disgusting as The other rob right a lot of the times and especially with chicken I don't know about you. Kevin and how your you know. Maybe mom would like prepare food but definitely for me. Something like i learned from the matriarchs in my family. Was you ate chicken. And then you maybe chew the bones because it has good mero and if you do that let me know. Because i know that my family's not alone and you know it was just. I don't know that it's an asian thing but i know that's something i did and it was refreshing watching someone on tv. Do that. because i know that when i'm in public i won't do that and it's more that i don't want people to think that i'm weird. Or whatever right etc all of these reasons. Why but i remember. When i was dating my husband and i was like okay. I feel comfortable enough. Don't want this. You know really good drumstick that i made like to go to waste so. Let's just do it. Sasha you can do it. And i remember that moment and he was like what the heck and my husband's indian but he's never even seen it so it was interesting to see she and you know like these showing up in this way. I'm and like unfortunately being ostracised for and that was one of the many reasons of course she was also given again the like he sneaky to me. She doesn't get along she's different and it's like maybe she doesn't look like you and that's that's what's different and just like call it out my guy we just do that. Yeah yeah i mean. I actually think the thing is is really pivotal to me. So so much to unpack here. I guess i i. I will say when it comes to the food. I i grow really. I think having an issue with asian food. I my dad's white. My mom wanted to assimilate really well. I didn't eat asian food. I was like. We'll give you my hamburgers mac and cheese and mashed potatoes. That's what i want. And so i actually think looking back. My mom was probably a little disappointed that her like. She's an immigrant who moved to this foreign country in a place where asians aren't exactly valued by any means and her child doesn't care about her culture doesn't care about her cuisine. But i do remember watching survivor thailand with my mom and i must have been no more than ten years old at the time and you know during those scenes you turn to me and told me just so you know. Even though you're half white half asian you'll always be perceived as asia. Yeah you know and like her having a very much frustration with how they were reacting to her talk about eating food and like the etiquette around that. I won't tell you how many times in my life people have been surprised that i don't know how to use chopsticks and further record. I do know how to use chopsticks. i just don't like them. And i should not be expected to them. Because even though i am asian filipinos do not use chopsticks so The idea of like eating with your hands also comments parts of the world and we associate that with light with class and like savagery. Sometimes and you know it's important to unpack. Why do we think that. Why do we go in that direction. But yeah the sheyanne. And the food thing i think really hit close to home to me and that's why it was surprising when so many people are like. Why is she on the all star. I'm she like the huge character. That was so significant to me in particular you know and yeah i agree special shadow to my asian celebration chat on twitter but because i asked them as well about topics you and i should be covering but they also spoke a lot about seeing sheehan for the first time in relief. Feeling like that person looks like me. And i'm so grateful to be on there and like a few folks actually wrote that in the chat even to this day they hold that feeling with her and that connection rather maybe to her so again. It's so beautiful. And so frustrating at the same time if that makes sense to see to see her but then she was treated from that jerem and i think a lot of just drew from that. I mean i always joke that identify with them in asian american with highly inflated sense of self just like her so we have a lot in common but yeah i think she an struggled free. There's lots of reasons why reasons why people struggle on these shows but you know that she's different than all these other people especially on a season that was very southern. Very middle america and so. That's even harder to do that and earlier. I mentioned daniel. Liu and bruce who also struggled with group cohesion being included. And you know there was a choice to cast more introverted. People are people who do not fit in in a way and so in a game that is based on social dynamics that choice to cast more introverted as individuals is pretty much setting them up to fail for the most part. I mean you. I while i think there's a case. Perhaps that asians are more likely to be introverted. And i think very specific to the region in like japanese korean. Some chinese groups are more introverted in sense in the american sense. British people are also known to be introverted. There's a lot of i remember. When i went to london. There was a whole thing about. Americans are super friendly. Talk so much talk so loud and they're like cold a little bit but considering that khloe was just on the circle us. I don't think that you know if we had a bunch of british people in the show. We're not casting introverted british people. Why are the asians or casting more introverted. Introverted agents deserve representation. They exist certainly. But you know the choice to do that is only going to further. The idea that asians are somehow more introverted. More awkward less likely to get along with others because there. Because i was the choice that was being made to put them on the first place it. Yeah and i think daniel even right like dealt with a lot of that when roger said that you know. I'm gonna chop dan your mum and then i think daniel himself talked about not fitting in and noticing that i'm asian american and you know here's like i i'm seeing this divide already and for me again watching the it was so obvious that he is just seen as like this. You know outsider and listened like definitely like his competition skills. Were not so hot and you know not that like. I don't know that i would be like daniel. Let's be friends if i was on. Maybe in that moment because you know for whatever reason why when you cast the only asian the asian is introverted and feeling left now again. How do you expect us to you know or this person to really win right and do so well or even go far. If there aren't more people that they can gravitate toward versus right other production when other people get a cast that they have people that look like them that they can immediately connect with. Oh you're from this out. So am i. Like let's like create a natural connection which equals an actual alliance in a lot of these moments. So it's almost like how do we make sure that we don't set these people up when we put them on our shows. Yeah julia pan a who posted something on twitter while ago. i think it was to show. How often do asian women interact with other asian women on the show and the answer is very infrequently about the spreadsheet basically is a bungee knows with maybe re yeses pre merge. I will say so. It's it's pathetic. Yeah and i think there is a case demographically that some people would make is that you know. Asians only represent no more than five percents or so of the country's population. So if you are putting agent we plan on putting two on there. So rationally understand that. But i can't important to also understand as a consumer of this entertainment that while yes. It's true that the that the average person on the show they should only be with one asian female the average american is probably only interacting with asian woman. In a week anyways the average asian woman is probably interacting with an asian woman far more frequently than that so they are experienced. There'd have to change a lot more than the average white person who is used to this kind of racial demographic this landscape of things so yeah i think the introverted thing is very clear and as an expert asian percent. It always bothered me that that was the perspective. The kind of keep your head down to yourself type and we're almost valued for not speaking up for for being quieter and more meek. Did you ever feel that way. Yeah i think so. I think interestingly right like there's a lot of internalized Like you know like my family's indian so we were colonized by the british of fun fact. They're so much you know of that almost in our system right where we should be like lighter. Folks are the color ism i mean. Sorry the lighter. You are the more likely you're gonna get ahead. You know all these internalized moments of white supremacy now. The in america happened to us right. And even i catch myself. I've caught my family doing this where it's like. Oh you know you don't want to rock the boat when you're speaking out about topics like just you know go with the flow like you know. We're so lucky to be in america which we are. I am so grateful to live here. I spent fourteen years of my life in india and then a little bit more than fourteen years. Now here. i'm an asian. Not good at math. I've been here for like longer. And i'm grateful to live in america. I don't think i'll ever move back but you know there's so much internalized supremacy that goes on where we think through the way we act were expected quote unquote by even my family. I feel is. You're always challenging the status quo. Where you're absolutely. I think again about the introversion trope. Anderson is one of the biggest departures. Because natalie anyone's ever described not only as an omega. So i remember watching the twenties so her twin on the amazing race and being just so excited because i didn't even know where they were from but i heard their accent and i was like they are south asian. That's it that's all i care about. And then they just turned out to be such fun. Wild characters. Like natalie and i think it's just a ninety as well like they both do cross fit. I believe and they're really fit. They really care about this stuff and again things that we don't put a sign to asians right characteristics and cheat dominated by blood versus water. San juan del sur. However y'all wanna call that season and really just does so amazing and asians cast in that one right because of her in her sister and her sister was the first boot of that show so it is it is really wild because i love her and she was even on the challenge. Unfortunately she had to leave early but on this current challenge. The i that is this is the type of personality. I want more of on my tv screen. Yeah yeah absolutely. I mean part of the fun of reality. Television characters is that there's a twist right. They're not the same person. So that's why you cast like the big hulking guy who went lenses malt he. He loves his mom or he loves animals. Like that's the twist asians. Well where's the twist the loudmouth asian it's kind of a twist we appreciate that to june from before also had one big brother and also a loud mouth funny abrasive asian person. I was like it's about time. That's what we've been waiting for and casey comes through several since later as a very athletic very very competent player as well and we have to asian winters and big brother and they're both from women so like your ability to get along with groups to be able to get energy from other people is probably an advantage in these shows. And so i do think that the idea of asians very introverted is really cometh. I think another one and this is tied to introversion because a lot of course serotypes are always tied to one another. We have an idea of what these things are is. That asians are awkward. Sasha awkward. what's going on here. Know i mean. I personally mariam awkward but like like we just because of the population like are we really that awkward but not joe but yeah i think again if i were to go off of what i see on tv sure you know like sometimes it really does happen a lot where we i think lovie is actually a great example of what i'm about to say where lovie as a human being is. Amazing is you know really extroverted. Actually a really good at making connections. I love watching him on podcasts. As well curing him sorry on podcast and watching him on tv but immediately he was put on the right and not only because of his outfit and the stanford prison experiment whatever law but even then the he immediately got put in this lake space. Where i don't think he fair belonged himself but it was almost like he got stereotyped into that right and and this is exactly what i mean where i think like awkwardness doesn't isn't necessarily something. Like asians have but we definitely are more likely to cast if we act this way i think choubey from the circle right. Shuba is another great example. Where kevin like you said the the twist twist where he is awkward and i think was still able to leverage his relationships to really well and really able to kinda create space for himself on the circle. Yeah absolutely i mean. I think just in the way that i think aggressive women might be received as bitchy more than they probably should be asian individuals who are maybe more shy or maybe different. A little bit are more likely to be labeled that term awkward than a white person who is also just as awkward right and so it's important to challenge those notions as implicit bias as we have to box people in when i think of awkward asian the first person i think of reality. Tv is william hung from a at all Very clearly not the best singer And i remember watching as vh one or something. They were doing like a top moments from reality tv and i remember. It was an asian comedian. Who goes that man. Something asian community back ten years and like playful joke. But yeah the the way that he is presented to us and the fact that he got so much airtime and that people also like appreciated. The airtime suggest a real sense of awkwardness confusion. Not fitting in. That is really tied to the asian experience. Thing about this podcast. Remind myself how angie conce. Who does a lot of the survivor archetypes for casting as and understand how those decisions are being made and how they do in the game you know has a character. An archetype called the culturally awkward girl and even in her description. She mentioned that she's often asian. And so i do think this points to kind of released trope here. That asians are awkward and will likely not fit in throughout their journey on the show and so to be clear. I'm not saying that. Angie is racist or anything like that but i think just like how the gay man is almost always feminine on television. I think quite often the asian person will have to be also a bit awkward or meek when they're casting while so we can have unlimited representation in so many different ways. Yeah any know. How do we right like not even understand that. That's what we're like. Assigning to folks right and even sometimes for me if you were to say. Hey sasha who. You're watching a season of big brother. You know who is going to be awkward. Yeah and most likely going to look at the person with the glasses who's like smaller in stature or maybe even internalized again like the asian person who is most likely to get out. Cast it pretty quick. Yeah yeah so. I you know we've gone through. What intel overly intelligent and nerdy awkward introverted. And i think a lot of this also comes from idea. That asians are foreign that we are. That's one reason we have trouble fitting in because we're different. And i think that is kind of creating a lot of different ways but i mean. Do you have a thought about this idea that we are this perpetual foreigner. Yeah this is actually like one of the ways that white supremacy culture actually keeps us apart and keeps you know people of color just fighting with each other where there's a thing called the model minority myth which i mentioned before we are know the members of this group for this politics. It's most likely asians. Are you know perceived to have a higher degree of socioeconomic status than you know maybe the average population and in even in reference sometimes to some out groups. And you know they're more educated all of those things but they might not always belong quote unquote and we're always seen as almost perpetual immigrant if that makes sense where we are seen as like. Oh you don't have an accent like the amount of times me personally. You know have been asked like well you know. How do you speak english so well. And it's like india was colonized by the british like we speak english from a young age. Not everyone there's a billion people literally tripoli a billion people but you know a lot of us do speak english because we were colonized and a lot of other reasons. But this is where this idea of like. You couldn't possibly have been from america. You know and like for me that is true. I'll give you that but you know for you. That is right and you were born here. A lot of my friends are born here but we always get asked. Where are you really from. So it isn't even something that happens on. Tv it's like it's a real life and tv just happened to actually depict it. Well that's a good illustration. I know i used to be a waiter for years and people always ask which i have. No i have no issues people asking. I love talking about myself so perfect. Always ask me anything if you like it does kind of push some social graces a little bit and where people ask where you from. You know when you ask that. I always had to be like well. Do you mean geographically nationally or ethnically. One are we going to. I'm from virginia. I'm from the united states. But we're talking about the asian ancestry dowd. You care about my whiteside. What are we unpacking here. Exactly and so. I do think it's the fact that people always ask. And that's something that happens to. Let's say black. Americans that's a really good example of that because their history's very much tied to the way the nation has grown. Asians have been here since the nineteen th century. even they're not perceived to be american right. Most black people are not going to be asked. Where you really from that asian people would be for example or even latinos. I think is also another really good one here. Yeah there was a or understanding that right not all black. People are african american That's a good point other piece of this as well where you know. We have so much to learn and unlearn rather. Maybe i should say where you know. Understanding their black folk or also. You know very diverse from caribbean some from so many different spaces. They're not all african american. Just like all asians. Aren't you know from like you said china or japan or korea where a lot of people might know of those replaces. Yeah and so there actually was a study. Some psychologist had done and they found that. And i'm gonna read from the insert that i have here found that a group of american adults implicitly considered british actress. Kate winslet to be more american than her. Us born pierre. Lucy liu even though they were told about their actual nationalities the intuitions that led to this bias toward whiteness. Reflect racist structures in society and attitudes people may not necessarily know they hold and is apparent. From how americans in these studies white faces to be more american and asian faces as well suggests prejudices that include feelings that exclude ones owns route. So it's not just white americans or other groups in the united states that kind of see asians asked foreign. We kind of can also see each other as foreign and not really here. Do you have any thoughts on that. Sasha same thing right where we've just constantly first of all how frustrating let me take a step back and say that where yet. It's this idea of you know. Constantly being on the outside where again lovie is a great example. Charisma is another great example. Like how you know texan. Do you get or you know. How like middle america. Do you get by saying. I love applebee's very early. I joked because i'm from oklahoma And you know i'm jewish. I keep kosher so there's not a lot of food. I can eat so sometimes fast or not fast. Food chains are pretty reliable. Because i know that i can have like an order. Take them. And i don't have to stress out too much about what i'm going to eat in a big group. So i always say like chili's. I like all of these restaurants because i can get my leg. Mashed potatoes my sides and be good so it's really funny because there it's so like american right. These are literally american restaurants so but again we're constantly put on the outside. And that's why i think i really again work. Identify with for that. Where like she's also seeing herself as the outsider. Times in her tribe was really just ruthless to her by this concert again. Being on the outside. And not fitting in ray because of all these other stereotypes. I think that's a really good point. documented studied. That had been done so long ago. Was the the pretty dull test right where children were looked dolls and said which one thousand was the twenty dollar. The smart and even black children said that the pretty smart all the successful daw whatever you have. It was the white doll and so you know even we can internalize these things as well To go back to the concept of florida's one thing that made me think of when i thought of this was how after g. Who is korean on big brother. Four nominated erica. She had left the nomination ceremony by herself. Essentially said And calling a g a quote fresh off the boat fucking immigrant korean piece of shit so you know while i cannot say where exactly was born in he certainly is not quote fresh off. The boat unquote Because he was living in new york for quite some time to but whether you were here fourteen years ago or twenty years ago or ten days ago you quite often might still be perceived as someone who is new and foreign and different even if you have had time to assimilate in other ways. Yeah and then. I wanted to do one of their quote in the research during before this. There was a study from the nonprofit leading. Asian americans for unite. A survey commissioned by the nonprofit leading asian americans to unite for change which pulled over two thousand american adults across the country asked a question are they said to name a famous asian american and where they found that forty two percent of respondents answered. Don't know the next popular choices. Were martial arts legends. Jackie chan with eleven percent. And he is from hong kong and bruce lee with nine percent. Who is asian american and was born in the us but died nearly fifty years ago so not not doing too hot when it comes to the average person's recognition of asian-americans me up or now if we ask like reality tv right it would be definitely again the you all's or right like june maybe even another big one instead of i think a natalie and be like oh right she's also been and of course we're making broad We're painting with a broad brush here like not like some people are smart and we'll get it in our understanding of diversity so yeah disclaimer to yeah and thinking about the four list. I think it's also tied to the mysticism. Yeah mr cole. Asian do you have. You felt that way before this trope that you've you've come across. Yeah i think again. I think this one specifically i feel like i've seen more on tv as well. Where especially with it rightly. That's how they've said his name. I just i get very stressed about belly or miss people's names but yeah for him. I think specifically where he was inner tribe with asians but then was still somehow right the other because of his like different or you know i think it was cool but it was a lot of the way. He acted the way he received the way he does his vibes. Were so different and and again it's very much like oh if you're asian you might be knowing these things i think for me. Personally i hate. How like indian specifically because yoga's from india is like you know treated like yoga and it's almost like treated as fun being that you know people always forget where it comes from right like it's actually a deep spiritual and when folks talk about yoga at this point is just kind of like. I just need some yoga to like figure out my life but not really like connecting with the actual meaning of a and it gets kind of like a probe created and it's very frustrating for me personally Where my people talk about their chuck grows and you know like shockers. Maybe i should say as they say in the american. Just kidding roy and talk about like oh we need to align. Do you even understand what you're saying or are these words that are taken and bastardize dilatot. Yeah i mean. I think you're absolutely right and it's one of the biggest examples of cultural appropriation. That people do not talk about. There's so many very clear ones. I think the boxer braids ones obvious in the discourse but yeah the fact that the average american associates yoga with white women and non you know where the cultures that it has roots and is proof of literal cultural appropriation where the entire image in meaning and thoughts about something have been completely changed as if consumed it right for what it is for to them not to what it is to the people who had originated and i think this is probably why the mystical asian exists in a lot of different ways. I think for east asians. It's more likely the martial artist. I think for south asians goo brew right. It's because we are because we are foreign because we are different. We have a sense of wisdom that the that this is apparently a positive term. Because it's highly intelligent yet but we know something that you don't in tune with nature and we know natural remedies a and the fact that their stories are told in those ways like cowboy cowboy doing a lot of stuff. He wasn't just healing people on the island. You know you could tell the story so many different ways but they chose to include those things because if that was the most effective and so you know we are more just than just that. I didn't want to read a quote from tv. Tropes does a great job categorizing common television tropes and they had one called the magical age. Here's the quote that i have here. He is almost always be a. He will usually be a martial arts master practitioner of traditional medicine or a sage of some eastern religion if he's not explicitly supernatural. He will often be highly skilled in his art. That will appear superhuman martial artists will will be impossibly good fighters. The medicine men will be able to easily diagnose cure any illness and the sage will be enlightened. Some kind of supernatural intuition. Expect at least one scene of the meditating growing bonds trees or engaging in any other blatantly non-western activity right so. Yeah it's like this. Wizard sage d.c. Thinking character and obviously those people exist right but the the fact that that is sometimes the classic trope that people think of when not all of us are trained in those arts. I promise you. Yeah and it's really interesting because i actually personally happened to me that i was in a like a yoga and someone was like. Oh raise your hand. If this is your first time so i was like first time with what. And they're like. Oh in the studio. So of course. I raised my hand and then i'm doing all the yoga poses correctly. You know spoiler alert again. I'm indian in india. Like when i went to school every morning. We had to do yoga. It was part of like centering ourselves before we started school. And it really helps with the know. It helps of meditation a helps with calming you down and being ready mentally to start school so to me. It's like yeah we we just did this. Part of our cultural practice in this woman. S white woman. Unfortunately was so shocked that i was doing everything correct from my first class amid the room so again like firsthand experiences as something. That's happened to me. So i know that like if i showed up on survivor and someone said that to me like i would definitely make good tv. Because i'd be screaming at people and be like today like no absolutely not thinking again. The the mystical asian almost an ally of the hero. Right they go to the temple. He learned something. But you know if the mystical asian is not on your side then there are the sneaky. I feel like that's very true. Trope you. are we sneaky. Sasha what's happening here. I mean if that means i win i'm just kidding. Yeah always think about this right. Where if we're doing well and we are painted as the person that folks don't like for whatever reason then. Yeah we're the sneaky asian. We're seeing as like be careful of them. You know like You don't know what they might be thinking of or what you know. Be around the corner so so be careful of them because they can't possibly to see playing the same game that said you know hero or heroes playing. Yeah you know when. I thought of the sneaky nece. Liz came in samoa in the opening. Challenge the leaders and so two men and of course they're men are chosen and first impressions and then they have to decide. Who does each leg of this show. And so they like pick leading the smartest in the strongest and the most agile. So asked you the smartest mic names. Liz kim whose asian and in the confessional she says you know. i'm pretty sure he chose me. Because i'm asian. Which i'm going to guess. Probably and she says while she's very grateful to be associate with a positive attributes of being asian and there isn't worried that i might be perceived as sneaky and so i thought about. Why are we gonna sneaky. Because we're also known as honorable complete sense they're all interrelated but just like how you know. Immigrants are somehow both coming here to take your job and willing to work for nothing. Which one is it you know. They don't have to really pair up super easily but for me. The sneaking is likely a trope because asians are considered quiet and competent and good at their job and hardworking and so we need to keep an eye on them they are sneaky and like all marginalized groups are perceived as threats in some way and so i think for some groups. There may be more physically intimidating. They're dangerous in those things because there are loud and aggressive. So i think that's something that's probably scribe to black americans much more easily. And because you can't do that so easily with asians you know. They're the incident being loud and aggressive. They're quiet and sneaky. And that's another sinister insidious suggestion that they're here to change things up to you know. Shake up the system in a way even though they're just doing their jobs our just trying to be part of the same society we all want to be. Yeah and i think even the reality. Tv right where not competition reality tv. But i'm netflix's blink empire where it's you know. Let the story. Is you know all different types of asians. But they're all asians and but then there's still almost kind of calling each other a these stereotypes or like you know kind of feeding into that so it's an interesting moment where were fighting so hard not to be called. You know these outsiders these whatever things but then Christine empire right talk so much about how her husband. I believe yeah is like twenty twenty fourth generation descendant of the song dynasty and then talks a lot about how she's almost commodifying. Yeah like being foreign. Or she's talking a lot abou- being different like leaning into that and like you know making money off of it so it's not just that this happened to us in post editing either. Like it's sometimes you know stuff like as asian they lead into and they're like i wanna get cast you know. This is like moment for me. And i wanna you know. Make this moment for myself and this is what the quote unquote white. Audiences may be one which i don't. I don't know that that's true but it's always like unfortunately this commodifying being different and cellular at and you know we're all trying to be successful individuals right and so i think we tend to think about what do people want from us right. That's the hardworking quiet asian. Sometimes that's the person who's gonna be the spiritual guide it depends on those things and so i'm a stand up comedian and i talk about my age and identity a lot because i recognize it as me making asian jokes talking about those things are very acceptable appreciate it. It's like oh we kind of like play into this a bit without it being really gross and tacky if like a white person was to come out and do those same things and so like i also You know gain from talking about the things. I know people want me to talk about. You know to engage in those ways. Since i haven't watched bling empire what are your thoughts. I know it's a groundbreaking in the sense of being the first asian reality show but jeff shaw. There's family karma is well which is an indian indian indian americans in florida as well and that was i think a year ago that came out and then blink empire just came out i think end of twenty twenty timing is weird anyway but yeah they all kind of really lean into this like we are either. It's either that they are born years of their first generation americans. They're kind of trying to charge their own way but like very much. You know leaning intellect. But i'm still like family karma it would be like i'm still indiana and you know we are still doing like all the indian festivals and we're celebrating the volley like our main most reality. Tv's right like tv shows that one end of the end of the season. Sorry like event so volley was like the indian event. It's the indian new the hindu new year. Sorry forever on the dozen nosso and family karma that's kind of where like all the drama was set to take place so it's very. It's funny to watch. Because i was like. This is a real like volley parties. Do have a lot of drama and like it's funny how it's now in the like reality. Tv show trope of you. Know a setup drama go cast goes on a trip and then they start fighting and then blink empire very similarly it starts with like one of the women hosts were really opulent like. I think it was trying yet. Chinese new year party in beverly hills like they rent out like wild amazing space. And then they're like we're so proud of being chinese. And you know like rich and you know opulent and that is something we do. But it's very different from like quote unquote. How like other american white. Whatever like families might do new year right like we asians specifically even our weddings are very high. Feel like different like for me a lot of my like white friends. I grew up in oklahoma. Were like what is this. Like what do you mean you have a four day wedding and indians. It is in this. Like rich thing is just like no. We just have so many traditions that you know if all multiple days and you know it's like the colors in the like the big families is just it's natural to us but it definitely sets us apart right going back to this foreign thing. So that's kinda what blink empire also really talks about but i really love it because at least it gives a moment to speak about a lot of east asian especially cultures and they speak a lot about like the badge stereotypes of pressure from parents and trying to do something different in. Not you know just becoming a doctor. A lawyer engineer. Like i know my mom would have also love if i were there but sorry about it. Not yeah i mean. It seems like an interesting concept. I'm really into the competitive reality off of reality television which is not how the average american things about reality. Tv i think they're like no reality. Tv is real housewives and to me reality. Tv is survivor. Like is that still on so there is. There is a difference in that. But i thought it was interesting because it does subvert. The ideas that like asia is like a poor place. Asians are successful and rich and sexy dramatic and like it does a lot of those things is of course important to remember that the people on these shows don't represent all asians at all and so understanding the tropes that were going through in combination with the media that we're consuming as well is the way to becoming more fully realize about the asian american experience and i do think one of the biggest intersections so we can talk about when it comes to asia for station is going to be gender right. Asian men and asian women are not treated the same in media or in society. Do you have any immediate thoughts. When i talk about gender in regards to this. Yeah you know. It's it's a really interesting because we talked about winners right and survivor. I believe and correct me. If i'm wrong has more. Asian men winners male. I think big brother has more beam or rather has a female asian winners right versus. Survivor has a little bit of both brothers. Natalie one i think asian is just just in case backtracking. I think it's one asian man. One asian woman came first. Yeah right so you know. And he is more classically east asian. Which is here so that most people would also kind of think about that. But yeah that's certainly one part of and versus right and big brother where it's very different dynamics. And both women were able to tell when versus maybe a man versus like james was able to get to the end right or paul Who so they were able to win. But anyway it's really an interesting way to really talk through this and really figure out like how are women. I think Kelly kim i think is unfortunately a recent example of like not seen as trustworthy and still kind of being the object of affection. Right of seeing this week. You know the objective. Dan's very wrong You know advances. Yeah that's the right word. And i think again like i. I don't know kevin about you even personally. I've heard exotic different like you. Don't wanna go on a date because of these moments you're you're absolutely and obviously the atlanta era shooting that kind of triggered hashtag stop asian. Hate you know lots of deal with someone's federalisation of asian women as objects of desire but as objects right as something to consume to us to have sex with to fawn over not as fully complex human beings and so thinking about. How the kelly kim. Dan situation happened not that long ago on our television screens. It's not surprised that asian woman who was being violated and her personal boundaries are being violated by someone who they could take advantage of that and so that's obviously going to target women when the trans asian women in particular. I think are quite often want to be on the end of that and so i think one of the biggest issues gender is i think women are very much fetishizes and men are seen as undesirable. So it's like so. I kinda thought as any millennial i've watched the movie mean girls concordant a billion different times and i remember when they do. The little cliques seen as they go through the cafeteria the jocks plastics. The art freaks yada yada yada to asian groups are the asian nerds and the cool asians and let me guess the asian nervous all male and the cool agents are almost all female which is exactly what had happened and so again. You know asian woman. I think are perceived to be exotic beautiful gorgeous to be desired in survivor nicaragua when sashes trying to create an alliance. He calls brenda the asian sensation. And while i don't think brennan would probably have an issue with that just generic usage of that term. You know why is that. Our i thought of the kind of exotic beautiful asian a happening and when she comes back for moen when the dude of flashbacks. Explain us who each person is like. Eric's the one who gave up his immunity koreans the one who was awful final tribal council. Brenda was pretty much distill down to. She was a flirt period. And it's like someone who were elizabeth fantasy ever nicaragua. Brenda is far more than just some flirty girl. But of course the asian woman is kind of cheapened down to just being an object to being a something to desire or or something. That's just flirty. And i think that has a lot to do with the often me love you longtime me. So horny asian stereotype. That's existed in american media. Yeah yeah exactly. And i think it's interesting because again in reality. Tv as in competitions but are not competitive but right and other reality tv again. Same thing where going back to blink empire where The talked a lot about like you know how women are perceived the way they should look the way they should dress the way and this is asian women talking to each other but still very much like talking about status and talking about well we need to hit these marks to be part to be part of the in group and not be ostracized so that it's interesting how it still show up not even just like competition based reality. Tv yeah. i mean the federal taxation you know. why does it exist. It's an exists that asian women are like subservient or we fragile delicate and a gay asian man. I've experienced that type of federalization where almost always assumed to be like a partner. Because i'm asian right because asians aren't supposed to be More domineering individuals. And so i think it extends to in general. I think there is a perception that asian men are quite often either invisible or undesirable unattractive. Do you felt that. Yeah i think again. Same thing aware. It's it's just a over. And i think going back. I think to actually daniel in amazon right like where he is very to me like. He's very much this stereotype Whereas i think looks as he looks good. Like i don't think he's like ugly person or whatever but but he's still because of his almost What's the word his outward personality. Not his looks a personality like equals. You know him. A falling into this trope i watched the challenge allot and they actually have a lot of asian women which are really feel like pretty bad ass marching the current season all stars and they have someone named yes on there and again he is very much. Interestingly like he had of really line where he said. I don't have so many friends here. I am not part of this league big in group. I wake up every day. And i make a new you a new. What is new alliances over breakfast. I will make ut and then you are now my alliance right and he talks about very much being on the and he thankfully talked his way out of eliminations. Oiler alert good job right. He was still seen as the outsider. And i do think the challenge actually does a really good better better maybe job of casting diverse folks where and the unfortunately though did cast from australia an asian woman named d actually said a lot of anti lack things. I'm grateful that she is not back either. So again this goes back to like. Asian asians are not immune to being. You know. i'm a racist to other folks either like that's also important moment. Where in our diversity. Unfortunately we often haida push other minorities down. Yeah and it's come on. Yes because i think he's from road rules right like i mean back in the road. Rules has been gone for a long time now. But i remember coming across a statistic in grad school so as of at least twenty eighteen and ruled had ended in twenty nine hundred nine hundred possible that in the next season things changed. But i'm not familiar. They had never cast in asian man on their show on the real world which had been on for so long and they'd cast asian women. Know jamie ruthie. You could have easily cast. Asian men and. I remember searching this online because i wanted to see well. What do people off about this. What's the discourse like. Read it say and you know. People kind of chalked it up to being like well. Maybe there are no asian men who are interested. As you think there's at least five asian men would have been on the real world. That's wild to me. You know the idea that they weren't being selected in the asian woman work suggests that you know that they're sexy That they're desirable. There's something about them. That is more enticing to the average of you were and that's why we're going to put them on television. There's a statistic that shows in two thousand eight nine point. Four percent asian american men married to a white woman while twenty six point four percent asian american women were married to a white american man. So that's the nearly three times as often in the intermarriage difference which suggests again that asian women are more valued more appreciated in their asian counterparts. At least when it comes to beauty and attraction and like social desireability. Yeah and i just realized and again listeners. Definitely correct me. If i'm wrong but i don't believe that there have been asian men that have been actually cast even on. Are you the one my either. So again i could be wrong. That maybe they have been cast in the last i. I definitely didn't watch the last two seasons. So i could be wrong but anyway at least in the you know in up until three years ago so like fifty one guys in total ish have been cast and they still have not been cast than your. It's you know it's not hard to find. There's so many people out there. It's not it's not impossible to find asian men who eliezer interesting enough. I've seen a lot of duds on these shows. Personalities the issue you can find a semi boring asian person as well if that's gonna go for. Yeah in the challenge. Thirty six has someone from. He's german but of asian descent from germany and his name's nam and yeah and he definitely for me like is the i would say in the middle. I don't think he'd defies every trope. My you know he's buff. He's looking has a great bart body. He was actually partnered with an olympian. Lolo jones so he. I think to me. I think he's still came off and it could just be actually a language barrier and not any other reason but it was still kinda not like part of the in group. Part of the big brother lines really frustrating. But anyway but yes nom was again in the asian but like i don't know that so many agents standout to me from the challenge men versus women and you know survivor gabon. You have kenny story. Which is you know about him playing the game. Being a strategist but also about him trying to get along with women and getting them to like him even says to sugar at the final tribal council. The girl i love hurt me. Essentially so the idea of men being undesirable or not being dateable essentially is certainly true. And you think about you know between big brother and survivor you know. Asian men are almost never involved in show manses in. It's very very rare. And so i think that's a point in that direction that there is a gender difference between asian men and women are perceived stems from this idea that we can submissive right. Asian women are desirable because they're submissive because they're more traditional perhaps because they're exotic. An asian men are considered weak feminine. And that makes them undesirable to women. So i think there are differences here and now you can talk about the model minority myth earlier. Sasha do you have any other comments on that in general or you want to break that down a bit more. Yeah i think this is d actually from. The challenge is unfit she is. She's australian ekeler. She's not american by is a great example of some of how like asians internally and internally first let's talk about like you know kind of see them sales's quote unquote better right model minority i defined it before but again this idea of like that asians although they don't quote unquote be long. 'cause they're from the east or you know they're from like the other part of the world And also sometimes. This is true for jewish americans so for me. I'm a overtime or moral model minority. But anyway so it's it's really interesting where it actually hits a minority groups against each other and d. I think is actually a great example. I don't want to bring up all the stuff she said. But it's really interesting how she said a lot of anti-black things or a few anti-black things and asians. You know release sometimes might see themselves as like i am not like an insert. You know any any other minority. Because i'm more educated allegedly. You're not you're not because we might have access to better. That's the only reason we might be more educated. But you know it's kind of what the model minority myth is. I've seen a lot of times in reality. Tv where again because everything we just talked about right like asians are almost like a lot of asians. Don't apply because they're smart so why would smart people apply to look dumb on reality. Tv not the case at all agents apply. But we're just not getting cast for these reasons but Again it's just it's unfortunate to hit minority groups against each other. Which is you're absolutely. You know to expand a bit more about the model minority myth. it's very flattering. Ask to you know to tell you the good minority. Is you know if anyone. I'm glad you're on the outside to show that people can make it because asians a by and large are have high levels of education wealthed socioeconomic status a low levels of incarceration. You know these are things that people point to as asian culture has made them more acceptable and they have these skills and intelligence or or whatever they have that may be black or brown. People don't have which is why they've never been accepted into the fold. I remember reading about i. Think the first. Asian senator in the united states senate and sworn in this like segregationist from the south of century said good job essentially. Why can't blacks do the same thing. And it kind of ignores the fact that he represented hawaii which is a state with a significant asian population. And if i think maybe at the time perhaps even a majority population and there are. There isn't a state in the united states. That's majority black so you know. There are complications within moving up the ladder. Let alone things like jim crow and discrimination but yeah the model minority myth. Is this idea that there is a way to be successful in america that you'll be accepted appreciated more and it is a very back handed comment towards other racial groups and i think i'm a statistician. So i'm very data oriented when i think of model minority. Like who are we comparing. Because i got that same idea eventually in life. It's like well if asians are successful. Why aren't the other groups successful if people use that historically for the jews the irish the italians like if they can be accepted until whiteness than. Why can't these other groups kind of get in there as well but you know if you actually think about the data here. If if we're thinking about comparing asian students to to whites blacks mr brown students cetera You need to control for several factors like like parents college education in. Because if you're not doing that if then of course many different because most a lot of asians have educated because they came here special visas To to come here and a lot of let's say latinos did not have to do the same thing and so when you compare these groups comparing you know. Asians who are who whose parents are quite often educated two groups who are not and so of course there's differences but if you take away that if you compare working class asians to working class hispanics there is no real difference. But it's important to challenge those notions in general and then You know the other major point. I think i want to make here. Is that within the asian community. There are huge differences right like the amount of college educated individuals who are asian. The united states is different. If you compare indians to you know cambodians and you know in two thousand eighteen pew research actually found that. The most economically polarized group in the united states were asians and that asians of the top ten percent of the income distribution over ten times as much as asians in the bottom ten percent and the average is about like eight for all groups together so if the idea is that we all have this this culture that makes it so successful. Then why are we so polarized you know. Can you explain the poverty in chinatown with asian success in the er if they have all the same culture because it's not culture it's all these other factors that go along with it and cultural explain some things but it's also important to remember that culture is a reaction to the structure to the society things like that one reason asians are highly the became Owners laundromats and stuff is that those were opportunities available when they came here. So you took advantage of that and your children tend to those same paths. Why is a african american food. United states very much to the south. I don't know it's because they were there so culture isn't just what you come in. It's not a static thing it's a reaction to the entire environment that we live in. And so it's important to be mindful of that when we think about the asian american experience and the experience of all people of color as well and understanding that white supremacy actually affords us better faces than it does. Are you know the other black indigenous and other people of color and that is the easy way of saying it. And it's that it's not because any one you know minority group is better or focus is quote unquote more in education. It's more that like we. There aren't as many hurdles in our path. Maybe going to college or you know whatever we want to do. And it's on us to call that stuff out instead and making sure that we make it more equitable for everyone instead of just sitting in our advantage and kind of you know being okay with it. Yeah yeah i mean. There's a lot of yellow peril for black lives. It was very popular as well. So i think we all have a part to play in elevating all voices and challenging supremacy so. I'm really glad we've had this conversation so far. Is there anything else that you feel like. We need to address about the asian american experience. I'm sure there's plenty we've missed. Is there anything that we can do in a digestible. time limit. no. I think this is good. You know. I hope y'all enjoyed and you know we're able to at least find some commonality or you know find or learn when you were saying maybe today i know i feel like i learned a lot of stuff from you kevin as well even though we were both doing our own research. So it's really exciting that we were able to come together and thank you for coming up with this idea and bringing me in a to this because i know kevin i have not been on reality. Tv you know so. We don't know the inner workings of that and we don't understand the pressure that comes with it as well so we wanna make that clear but you know as folks that are able to you know have a platform and are able to share our thoughts like we're just again grateful that y'all were are here listening you know however long it's been and just you know. Share your stories with us who yeah absolutely. Use the hashtag rha asian. And we'll make sure to follow that throughout and we'd love to hear all these ideas i mean. There's so much to talk about and so much disgust and of course a reminder again that we do not speak for all asian or asian american people and we're just two asians. Were just talking about television and we love to hear your thoughts about that as well. I do think there are ways to learn from from this or learn from everywhere. I guess to be a better ally and i think part of this experience like sasha mentioned this maybe you learn something maybe you feel more confident about something that you knew a little bit about before and you can think more critically about the asian american experience We do have. There are many ways that one can support the asian american community And i know that we want to make sure that we have those things available in the notes for the show but you can also donate to the asia pacific fund and. We'll have that link available on. I'll make sure to tweet that out to sasha. Do you have anything going. On in the pipeline. Talk about your social media anything like that. You can follow me on twitter at fun size. Underscore oath four and i'll be on sometime this week. I think end of this week talking. Rhp rewind will be covering my favorite show love and hip hop atlanta. So you'll find me there and on youtube at silent podcasts where we cover a few other reality. Tv's i'm currently talking the challenge all stars as well perfect. That's so fun. I don't have as much interesting things in the pipeline which means i have plenty time to now and respond to all hash. Rtp asian tweets. Than i can't wait on. You can follow me on instagram. At asian neighbors assist or on twitter at asian narc for short. And we appreciate you listening and engaging in this very important conversation. Thank you for sasha for joining me as well with that said thank you so much and you know hashtag stop asian. Hey thank you everyone bye.

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True Philosophy about Leadership.

MAKING IMPACT with Daniel Patrick.

11:32 min | Last month

True Philosophy about Leadership.

"Hi this is making impact international where we make lives to live a life of distinction and power. Making impact proudly presents to you a podcast from dan. Patrick with the series on effective leadership. Leadership is a must in life whether in government business poems and life in general today on episode three. Daniel patrick is going to take you on the topic. The true philosophy about leadership. Do you think that the system of the world society in homes are collapsing. Then you need to listen to this episode as you will understand the true philosophy about leadership. Let's now go into the teaching for today and be blessed. Wow welcome to the most wonderful exciting program on podcast. You're gonna get is to remain your host. My name is danica patrick. And this is mick impact international. You're welcome once again. And i want to welcome you to this very wonderful podcast today. 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When Cow's Milk Doesn't Cut it with Simona Irwin of Kabrita USA

Baby-Led Weaning Made Easy

23:04 min | 3 months ago

When Cow's Milk Doesn't Cut it with Simona Irwin of Kabrita USA

"How much heart is behind this. How much are people thinking about the ingredients but also how much are they really thinking about the mall and that kind of feeding journey and we wanted to be able to relate to to the mum on a personal level. Hey there i'm katie. Ferraro registered dietitian college nutritional professor and mama. Seven specializing in baby led weaning. Here on the baby led weaning. Made easy podcast. I help you strip out all the noise and nonsense about feeding leaving me with the competence and knowledge. You need to give your baby a safe. Start to solid foods using baby led weaning guys. Welcome back so all month long in my interview episodes for this month i'm going to be highlighting female run feeding companies so these are brands run by women in the world of feeding who. I'm just fascinated with and to say i'm honored to interview simona irwin. Who's the general manager of cobrita. Usa and cabrillo makes a line of gentle goat milk based foods. They offer a new choice in formula feeding marrying this ideal of all natural which we all want with the rigor and safety of science. Which of course we know. We all need so cobrita. Usa it's one hundred percent. Women run company led by moms. Simone is going to be sharing a little bit about how she came to work with the brand how she discovered products when her children were babies. And then what they're doing as a team to support moms who are exploring different options in feeding. So i personally have used cabrillo products for my own babies who had varying skin issues like eggs and some gut stuff from cow's milk products of actually written a lot about this on my blog. And i'm gonna link to some of those blog posts as well if you guys are interested in learning more about how you can use these products if you have a little one for whom. Cow's milk just doesn't sit. Well so i wanna point out that the cabrillo goat milk nutrition products are not appropriate or to be used for children. Who have cow's milk. Protein allergies actually did a whole separate podcast episode about called goat milk gut health and skin symptoms and that was with anti salzburg. She's actually the medical director for cabrini. Usa so in that episode she went like defend the science about how milk proteins and the kurds are handled differently by the baby's stomach. That's episode sixty two. So if you guys are exploring goat milk options you want to learn more about gold milk. Nutrition go listened to that episode with any salzburg from breda but in today's episode. I'm chatting with simona irwin again. She's the gm of quebrada usa. So she's going to be talking about how for many americans cabrera's a relatively new brand. You might not have heard of it. someone is gonna explain really only been available in the us since cub read. A usa launched in two thousand fourteen but cabrillo formula approved the news by parents for very long time around the world in places like china russia the middle east south africa across europe. You name it so we kind of global audience. You might be familiar with it. But americans oftentimes are not even familiar with the idea of goat milk formula when it would be used so if you are family looking for an alternative to cow's milk nutrition products east sometimes will come across cabrillo when you're doing research on your own so i wanted to have some own onto talk a little bit about why it is so hard to get a new type of formula like goat milk formula approved for infant us in the us and how it differs from the other formula products on the market today. So i just really admire the entire carita female run team their mission. I personally love their goat. Cheese puffs for baby led weaning. I am affiliate for coveredca which i want to disclose as well but again just really admired their company and so i'm interested to learn more in talking about the inner workings of the business. So no further. Do i want to introduce you guys to simona irwin. Who is the general manager of A usa well thank you so much for joining me on the podcast today. Simona thank you. I'm really excited to be here. So our audience knows a little bit about cabrera from the introduction and i've done in previous episodes about goat milk nutrition but could you tell us about yourself and what your role is there at quebrada. Yes for sure. So i am the general manager at quebrada. You're iran the north american business. And right. now that's really just the us market at this point. I was actually our first employee so back in two thousand thirteen. There was two co founders. And then they had hired me to really create strategy and bring the product to market. So my background has always been in natural foods and organic foods. I started my career at whole foods which i loved. I had become vegetarian when i was fifteen. Which was quite strange back. Then way back and just developed an early love for natural foods and they kind of this health food world so started with whole foods and then got further into brand management for other natural products and then eventually ended up at cabrera after i had my first son. That's pretty cool. You're the first employee of cabrini usa. I did not know that. So when was that. How many years ago did it come to the us market. That was in two thousand thirteen and ben by early twenty fourteen. We were on the shelf of every whole foods store so it was pretty quick launch for us and a pretty quick uptake for the marquette to people were really excited for product. And i know. I've worked with some of your other team members out of canada. It could a usa also cover canada or no not yet. Okay we decided to first launch in the us market just 'cause it was a bigger market and really we had made a pretty big investment in a clinical study that we're doing at their for infant formula and so we decided to kind of put our eggs in that basket for now so we have part of our team that works from toronto canada and then we have other people who work freelance in the us. So i think brita is a brand that parents and caregivers kind of discover when they start looking for alternative to cow's milk viet for any number of reasons their little one might not be doing well with cow's milk so if they're considering an alternative goat milk as an alternative they find cabrera. It's not necessarily a household name in the us. If this is the first time you've ever even looked for a cow's milk alternative. So could you tell us how the product is maybe different or marketed. Different in the us versus europe. Because i know it's really confusing but parents ask all the time like how come people in europe have had access to this for so long. This is new to americans. What's the story there. Yeah that's a great question so there's a few kind of pieces that fooled into that. I guess one is that i'll share just like a little bit of you. Know the reason why we founded the business. So i think as most mums. No you know. We have this expectation of how a feeding journey when we have babies and we're going to be perfect at everything and our baby is going to breastfeed perfectly and everything is just perfect at everything but of course then you have your first baby and like everything falls apart and it's totally different than you know what i found what time the original co founders really found was that if there was a struggle in your feeding journey and you had to or chose to use formula for whatever reason there was really limited options in the us and they just didn't understand why you know why. Why can you get things in new zealand. Can't get here so you know. They kind of dug into that deeper. One of them ended up just basically trying to create her own goat milk formula but of course it's just so much more complex than that and that's just not something that's a quite easy to do and be able to measure. Every micronutrient replicating breast is kind of looking so that didn't work so then of course just exactly what your question was. Was you know what was the next step. And it was to find that there are countries you know if your baby has a challenge in the us with cow milk. You really don't have that many alternatives you can go onto a soy formula. You can go onto extensively hydrolyzed formula but there it just you know. Sometimes they don't work so they kind of looked kinda far and wide and eventually found this company called as nutria from holland that was originally a dairy company for over one hundred years and then started to creep infant formula made out of cow milk and then started to make infant formula made out of goat's milk and for our audience. Who might not be familiar with the differences. What are some of the benefits of goat milk. Over-counter look if your child does not do well with cow's milk products yeah so you know for a lot of people. I think myself included. You know when i i. I was lucky with my son that i was able to breastfeed but then when i moved onto introducing cow's milk to him he got eczema and we just couldn't get rid of it and at first i didn't correlate it to anything in particular but eventually we did some kind of tinkering with his diet. Took cow melkite replaced it with goat milk and goat milk foods and the exzema went away. So you know right now. Of course we can't make any specific claims around exzema Of course it's all just personal experience but what we found overall in through some of the key studies and some of the trials that the company has done is that the goat milk just digest at a quicker rate. And it's also just easier for a baby to break down because of the kurds and also the type of protein too and we've had anne from cabrera on to talk about goat milk nutrition and she kind of explained the difference between the kurds size and she got like pretty technical as she does. So if you guys are interested in learning more about goat milk nutrition. Be sure to check out that episode with anti salzburg in. What is her title with you guys now she the i know she's to be the medical director but i think it's changed now. I don't want any now. Runs both of the consumer and medical marketing and education sides of carita. So she's our senior marketing manager. And if you guys want to check out that episode. It's called goat milk. Gut health and skin symptoms with anti salisbury. That's episodes sixty two and all link up on the show notes for this episode as well go to be l w podcasts dot com. Simona could you then just share a little bit about how the product is different in the united states. And maybe where you're working towards for regulation to have it as an infant formula. Yes definitely that's like really from the beginning that's been you know why the business was created and where we wanted to go. Initially we were a little bet naive in terms of the length of time that that would take so we are you know started the clinical trial and thinking. Okay this is gonna take one or two years but of course it's now seven years later and we have finished it which is exciting and we are kind of moving through that process but you know of course we know in the meantime that people have started our product at an earlier age. We see that in our reviews. We know of course that our product is does meet the fda standard in terms of the nutritional aspects of the formula. But what we've always wanted to do is just to really ensure that we went through the right avenue and just take the time to get on the fda approval so we can sell it as an infant formula and the us. Something that's interesting to note is of course that we could brita has been selling internationally for over ten years so we sal. In china we sell in russia. We sell it and so africa in brazil in mexico europe and the middle east and we've met the standards in all of those countries of course for their infant formula regulations but the us is just truly unique in their requirement of a clinical trial with berry particular criteria. And that's why there is such a barrier to entry in the us for new brands to come in. And that's why it's been dominated for so long by four major. I used cabrera goat milk. Formula one of my quadruplets had pretty bad eggs. Emma around like the nine ten month mark and i switched him to that. It was pumping as much as i could. But i didn't have enough breast milk for him when we did. Cow's milk stuff. His skin was kind of funky. And i found that they've actually shared a lot about this. And a couple of blog posts about it and all linked to those in the show notes for this episode but we had success with the goat milk formula for his skin stuff and then we continue to use your goat milk food so was curious if you could share a little bit beyond the goat formula. What other goat. Milk foods you guys make ny camp so we are really excited to launch our goat milk foods for me. This was especially exciting. Part of the business be has. It was close to home for me because my kids didn't eat any cow milk dairy so we wanted basically to make a favorites that you know that people feed their babies without cow milk and instead with so i think really what led the most exciting ones. That's to spend so popular have been our goat cheese puffs so i think everyone knows you know a regular cow milk cheesy or the little puffs that feed to your babies and so we were really excited to offer really a european source goat milk version with very few ingredients. You know where people could have that for their child to. We also have porridges on which are also quite unique so in europe. It's much more common to actually have milk in the porridges for babies already as a pre mixed product in the us were actually the only product on the market that has both the grains and the goat milk in the actual serial Instant ready to go so it's just nice convenient things for moms and whether or not they have catholic sensitivities delicious. I have seven children. And i still have a singleton. I have quadruplets. And then i have twins with our quadruplets. We had used your formula products but it was prior to any other products came out but when my twins were doing baby led weaning was right when the goat cheese puffs came out and i really liked them because i teach one hundred first foods approach to baby led weaning where we encourage babies one hundred different foods before they turn one go cheeses always challenging one because of course typical goat cheese is way too salty for babies to have and so the nice thing about the goat cheese puffs at their formulated. Four babies and these are not you guys like the little star puffs that we recommend not feeding to babies are actually just plain starch and could actually be a choking hazard. These are longer sized. They're about the size of your adult pinkie finger. Which is perfect for baby lending. I think of them as like chitose is babies can scoop and pick them up by themselves so even at six and seven eight months of age before they have their pincer grasp so they promote independent feeding and then they don't have any added sugar in them which is essential because we don't feed added sugar to although you'd be surprised if you look at the baby food either full of products with added sugar. Which is we. Don't do that for baby. So i love your product and also very very small amount of sodium justin enough for preservative to keep it shelf stable but the goat cheese puffs. I think you've been really important for the field of infant feeding because it allows your baby to try this important. New flavor cheeses are really unique flavor. But without all the salt in the sugar and i know in the us. Lisa i live in san diego and see them at our sprouts. Which i think is great. Are you guys where in the retail world are the goat cheese puffs and porridges available. So any sprouts. Any whole foods marquette. Some kind of local health food stores carry them to were at wake. Men's some really and then we have a great presence obviously online amazon walmart and on cobrita the usa dot com so this month were sharing all about different feeding companies that are female run female lead and i know from i've done a fair amount of work with could read over the years and i just know from experience that your team is entirely female. So could you tell us a little bit about your team. Your brand philosophy. And how does that kind of lend to the support that you guys provide to the moms in your community. Yeah absolutely so you know. I think one of the most interesting things. When we started the business was really looking at the competitors and you know all of them are pharmaceutical companies. Most of them were run by non everything in the baby. World is run by old white men. It's very true so we just really questioned. You know how much heart is behind this. You know how much are people thinking about the ingredients and just the ingredients. Of course it matters to all moms but also how much are they really thinking about the mom and that kind of feeding journey and we wanted to be able to relate to the mom on a personal level. And so you know at the beginning. It was like a a bit of an accident that the team was all women. It was just kind of how it happened. And then it really became something quite special over the years. Of course you know we've had different men that works for us and people come in and out of the business but primarily that the company is just run by a group of women and mostly mums. And you know. I think one of my passions through businesses really to mentor women and really help them leave greater levels of success in business and give them opportunities that they may not have had an so one of our core values. Is that we off for all of our employees different educational allowances so they can really get to that next level of business that they might not have been able to do on their own and really get into those roles that had primarily been held by men agreed example with carita is like the logistics role where traditionally a very male oriented role. And you know we kind of mentored someone from scratch who's now has a supply chain management degree and is really thriving in that role which has been just so nice to see so kind of right across the board we try to empower women our customers and then also our employees. Are you part of the team. Based in toronto yes so have died because like american maternity versus canady maternity. There was someone on your team. I can't remember who working with and i was like. I feel like this person's been on maternity forever. Then someone told me what the typical canadian it it is like. It's the visa. We add another bomb on. Who is a veterinarian. Excuse me she was on maternity leave for like six months. She's like i'm starting exalted. My baby and i'm still a maternity. It's like you guys are so lucky. It's so true we actually. It was recently changed so we actually are. Maternity leave is now eighteen. Months is what's available in canada and so it was also one of the things that really drove me. When i found out more about the us maternity leave and also mums choices and really breastfeeding shaming and staff. And i just thought you know how unfortunate for a whole country to be set up in a way that just put so much pressure. And how could a mum possibly meet. All of these demands will not having any support to be at home with her kids. And you know that's another big driver that cabrera's we're like how can we make this easy. And how can we make among feel really good about her choices because she might not have the choice to be home for six weeks. Six months you know. Read a load sixty inch that you. So how can we make this journey a little bit easier. And so she can just feel also confident in her choices and when they. I know you guys have definitely done to make life easier. Is i think if a free trial offer that is i'm like how do they make money with this. Like it is one of the most generous offers out there. People are considering they're having gut stuff for the little one with cow's milk or skim stuff. I always say just check out the cabrillo of free trial offers. So if you guys are not familiar with us. It's basically thirty dollars worth of goat. Milk nutrition products though cabrera has a package of all the products. That simona was describing. And you basically just pay the cost of shipping and handling which. I believe the last time i did. It was just five. Us dollars so i would imagine that. That's that's really hard from a financial standpoint for you guys to support except that it must work or you wouldn't keep doing it and it's a great way for parents to be introduced to this these products that might help their child during this crucial point in their development. When you still wanna be feeding a variety of foods but cow's milk for whatever reason is not working so could you just share a little bit more about that. Like free trial offer. I'm so curious about it because no one else defeating industry does anything even close to what you guys are offering. Yeah absolutely so you know one of our core values of course like generosity and we can have have this saying when you give more you got more and we all really live by that at our company we know as moms that when your child has a sensitivity or even just when they're starting to eat you're buying all this stops they're eating at once and then they're like throwing it out you and then you know it's like a big waste so you know we really wanted to provide a value to the customer and allow them to really try it before they invest their money and that and really. That's what the trial offer is. So it's for ninety nine. You're just paying for shipping and handling and you're getting the products but then you're also getting some coupons too so if the formula or the products do work for your family than you can either go into a sprouts or whole foods come online and repurchase it will thank you so much for sharing all of this i love to hear about kind of the inner workings of the businesses that we work within the products that we use. We might be considering so thank you for sharing that. And if you don't mind could you just tell our audience where they can go to learn more about cabrisas goat milk nutrition products. Just so you can come to our website which is can brita. Usa dot com k. a. b. r. I t. a. u. s. a. dot com and then also any social channel at. Hello cobrita. thank you so much someone. I really appreciate your time. Thank you hope you guys enjoyed that chat with simona irwin. The general manager of qabrika usa. I love that. She shared that one of their corporate values was generosity and like i again because i've worked with them. I really really do love their team. I am super jealous of their maternity leave policy and on top of that though to hear the term generosity described in the same sentence with a formula company like that doesn't happen very often so just a different type of company different type of product. I'm going to link up all of the resources that simona shared on the show notes for this episode which you'll be at be l. w. podcast dot com forward slash. One two zero. They do have that free trial offer which has think it's a canister of the formula some samples of their porridge some samples of their goat cheese puffs. And i think it's five dollars for shipping and handling so all linked to that as well if you wanna check out their products for your baby if you have a baby who doesn't do well on cow's milk and also don't forget episode number sixty two was also about goat milk talking about the gut health and skin symptoms that was with any salzburg their medical director. If you're interested in learning more that's another good one to check out a linked up again. Bmw podcast dot com forward slash. One two zero. Thanks so much for listening. And i'll see you next time.

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Art Friends

Liminal Podcast

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Art Friends

"Welcome to limit podcast. You're with john and gordon. Join us on a journey into lemon. Oh space as we speak frankly and honestly with friends and expert about their experiences of change followers on instagram twitter. Facebook ticks off. We are everywhere. The lebano part you can head to subscribe to eliminate podcast dot com to get every episode directly into your inbox as well as exclusive gifts and giveaways from our guests. There listened to for new kids. There is a bit of swearing. There is a lot of dark jeans due to japan but plenty of hema along the way. Don't forget to subscribe to us on apple. Podcasts spotify stitcher. Oh diese or wherever you get your costs and without further ado. Let's get the shy. Dr how funding began. You're always the last time you had asked me this question the time the listen. Listen to this is over. But we're recording this one day before it's over so i'm happy has ended. I've learned bits and pieces. There is some takeaways. 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Talk about this his journey and everything that come to full this chat so if you happen to now you wanna revisit do dot right now without feb redo this is the so paints. Don three podcast. This is my third actually today. So yeah well-versed awesome. Let the audience be the judge that it's fantastic to have you back cates. Blunt showed the painter. Sorry i hate it when people thought you telling me often. Because he's my full name been told off completely and i'm not catherine very important. I was gonna say catherine i thought no i'm not gonna say but kate welcome back how you doing. Hello thank you for having me again. I'm doing good in this. So of random. Time of lockdown of not sound full or three. I even know at this point by the time. This has probably locked down seven hundred. Say this is just. This is just a representation. When i used to be able to speak we just communicate with grunts now to each other half last on mask off to nine. So what's been going on in your life in the last six months or so since we lost fake. I didn't we speak every day but since we last spoke on the show. That's quite funny that that is a little jarring actually autism. Brian goes gordon. Uh spoke to you the other day. What's figure just on last time. Actually use the idea. You were exploring the that's been happening a lot. That's a big one. We'll probably jump to that later. What's been happening. I've still been painting. And i've had great success with business. Sales forbid collective getting some merchandise out there winning competitions right now coast though i get bashful for essex of no. You are humbling yourself. I think you've risen like the last six that i'm do not play asshole because a lot people that have businesses and it's kind of steadily moved along. I think you've expelled exponentially in my belt. Means when you get thrown out of school for doing something nolte wanted to say. And then i said expelled. Exponentially which conduct out excel cumin. I was expelled on. That wasn't expelled. I've never been expelled. I was suspended thoroughly a day. I'm not telling you what for. I was suspended from school once. I was very very good kid at school one time. Did you want us to gas. Then he pulls yeah did. Did you want us go go. Don't you put your so wonderful. What could you have done. I know you're naughty. I was. I was in school. We were like because if it were a normal everyday so exchange at the shops. You'd be a bit worried when you really arrested if you want an art school arrested well basically. We're school concern and we in the intermission for the school concert. one of my friends went to the shaw. Got a few ciders we drank the side is and in. The teachers smelted on our breath and told the head of six foam about her weight. Well hold up. Sorry you were at sixfold. Yeah and you got some beer yeah. We drank the beer at school. Consol seventeen oh my god. I know the reason that we didn't get suspended was because they had teacher was dating with a much bigger incident. Why basically somebody had set up a facebook group cooed. This is back when facebook groups. The original Facebook groups existed before they moved them over two pages and then back to groups but some of facebook group code named with the teacher. And this being. Joe a holding hands looking at you. I don't know what what are you studying to. this is. This is part of the story of a sudden needs to be someone that facebook group entitled. Mr something is a fucking to someone sat not facebook group up and because that was going on the head of sex was like. I'm not gonna tell the head teacher about this because they're dealing so much but rest assured you would be expelled right now if this wasn't the case and basically gave us a massive bollocking with you being expelled from a six form for having a cider. A nine sober. I went to a grammar school. That was the about the level. I guess i think all grammar schools cassette glamorous better supposedly but mainly just because you have to take a test to get in and they're a little bit more tori than other schools. I think for the story kids there on rich basically k. I'm yeah engineer. My mom always said i would have passed the eleven plus but she didn't want to pay me to get to the coach to the grammar school and that was my education and i've held true that formation for the rest of my life budget now joking. I'm not reading my way into an art career. Yeah and a very successful one that you you everything seems to be growing like joe said you've got obviously you're sober painter are going on. You've got a photography business instagram thing. That's taking off. Don't reveal all my instagram. Or i won't be as mysterious as i wished to bay of when he got them just to work. I want to pop up in people's minds when they don't think it's made and they'll get ready board of me basically set up all of these accounts so that you can cross promote yourself so it looks like laser people are talking about when actually you from our account. It's like don't don't fuck we spoke with is not nothing. Don't fuck with. Actually it said. Now i just I've only got four accounts. I deleted a couple. I just love stoking. And i just wanted to as inconspicuously as possible and the whole business things just to from majors to look the people now or is it. No no no look at my facebook posts without looking like a massive crowd liking precise i well most. I do have different accounts on by trying to harness the power of instagram. It to me. It's like it's a bit like a puzzle. Cassini talk about things like algorithms and no one really knows why the person that looks at your stories at the top of your story is it because they look at you all the time or is it because of something else in some other rhythm just wade into that so yeah. I've opened a few counts. Got some followers which is good. But i heard rumor on the rumor mill that instagram solve dislike she if you try and gain followers by paying and doing things like that so i set myself. The challenge of trying to create on friendship must post up doing not doing a little bit promotion. But i think it's a bit of a waste of money. Isn't it all yoni proper way. I think i've seen some point. Ingenious ones Couple the ascii to like all that pitches then like them and then lee five comments and then they'll post you in this story that seven million people say something like that. It's someone asked me to do. Tiktok i laugh dignified. We've tried tiktok. So i'd say for the same reason. Some of our video views about golden doing the tiger king dance got some of the best best television. I've ever seen actually shortly followed by the one me. Dunzo are you've got i scream makoto. The while without one and it comes out every now and then when i'm alone at night for anyone that doesn't remember golden what was what was that about joe. Joe's don it was. I can't even remember i did. I challenge each Did i pick the video will. Did you just randomly use it each this. And you announced on the podcast. I was going to do it so i want to do it. And being we requested it for over two hours. Because that's how long it took to teach me how downs i'm a record there on it was a shambles and it got probably two three hundred of us And probably was seen by way. Too many people better runs game tiktok. That's not really that many views. I'm thinking of the people that have got millions of followers and they just post pictures of the mixing paint and i'm like well. Yeah but social media's amaze and you probably found a day just an absolute nightmare investing is trying to understand it. Yeah i'm just gonna pop away. That new tiktok franchises may mix in a lot of paint. Because clearly there's an audience for it or is well maybe not meant to install under point golden. I could do this done so night. Let's go so how does the lockdown affected the work that you've been doing. Obviously we've been in and out of lockdowns for the last year so now and yet your work your instagram profile. Yo you save a painter staff as seems to be going from strength to strength. How does that happen. I like being alone. One of my favorite things to to be very very comfortable in my own company. And for that reason i probably because i have about eighteen people inside my head coach. I don't need anybody else. I tend to become tunnel vision when it comes to work. When i'm alone. I can just work work and welcome. Welcome up and if i'm undisturbed i could probably without sleeping as well. I just enjoy it. Unsolved fueled by. When i do something. I enjoy it and i go. Oh my god that looks really good. I'm instantly fueled to do another another thing. And i'll keep doing it until i run out of fuel jew so crazy to flow Just keep going which been quite disturbing the people. I've been relationships with locking myself away. Just doing that. But it has to be that way so they are like that surely. There's no way. I mean how else you produce a piece of all that you need to. How many how many hours do you reckon a painting that you produce takes at times. I've only just started allowing myself to do a little bit. And then come back to it. I could go on forever. I competitive chess board the other day when i was on the phone someone of go into chest in a big way there you have. It's well golden rural plan on the app paintings like a boat. Because sometimes you do a little bit here and there and it's wrong so you have to eat racing quirk around or in some cases you can take the move as i always play with my. I never win. So so it's it's kind of coming back to doing things like that. So in a lockdown setting. Where i get to be my own boss. I can just get a lot done. We would say theater company. That i work with the skulls. We were doing a film and we all said that ideas and brainstorming happened so quickly not dunks. We were disturbed a new logo for lack of break at the same time. I don't want to disturb anyone in my house so we all take kind of at the same time. It's your time to chat to have a goal. See what's going on. Then you go back to your works in a in a be a terrible office worker. I think what. Because i've got something to hone in on my absolute attention. I couldn't do that with north knows my flatmates. They do kind of finance things. I couldn't do that but for some reason. It holds my attention. When i'm painting to the extent of things like i look at my phone the entire time or anything like that. It just grabs me. And i've just tried to harness that as much as possible i think really defined the being locked away means that your Tis defined helps your creativity more defined the going out and getting inspiration from the real world by being able to go for walks and see people. Does that improve the way that you're making wonderful person. I'm working with clive nico. We will have a discussion. They said because it because it's abstract enough people wouldn't think the inspiration comes from people places because it's just an abstract piece that you make it takes to all concerned is probably just a mash of color but the patterns and strokes and things that happen in things puck pumpkin. Joe head i think do influenced to a certain extent just all of color and i go for bulk outside to get inspiration for color because you can only fill so much of it in the place that you resided so it could be anything like. This is gonna sound really wine k. I think i said wankhede last time it. But when you think of all kind of think of wang keith one pill one car on an but it could be as simple as like a leaf on the floor and it's awesome and it's just most fuel risks yellows you can imagine Inside my weight. Brian Then i'll i'll get out again when any to would you say is your favorite color purple. Why who do any reason no. You don Podcast it off a lot more. If i just asked me a series of questions watch favorite sweet. Potatoes move on and purple is regal color. I don't know blacks if someone says. Oh my favorite color. Black instant connotations and death occur. So i go for black even per probably purples more satan colorado I've just drone towards anything watery. I think purple green blue a role very watery kind of kalisz. Pretty bad passing honesty and it. Pops withdrew into certain colors. Maybe where we are at in life that colored just resonates with your little bit for some reason. The really interesting when someone says. What's your favorite color. I can't really honest because it's more combinations of kalisz Purple goes amazing with orange which goes amazing with wines. Just remember these color patterns unlike the way they look together. Save a line. Green looks great opposite turquoise and then throw purple in there well if you used the kind of orange want thing in the yellow blue is it just kind of it kind of works that have never been able to tell anybody why my how you think maybe change in. The last six months has the way the world's gone affected in any way. Or have you simply drawn inspiration from exactly the same places and led the out. Lock yourself away and began that process. Once again i find it even amazing that you think i get inspiration. It's just i just go with it. I really kong drawn different places of people or anything. I just i mean zone. It's more like i'm just in a place this. What's coming out as a byproduct. Yeah maybe feels a bit unconscious at times you just. You're in the moment pens. Who pays well bush to converse on you. Just you just float your buddies at one e mind go music or anything on could ask all always a country music. Yeah anything and everything. I was been ready. One key painting to beethoven the other night for about forty full. Te'o sixty minutes to my flatmates. Much thing absolutely bronchoscope is. They're just eric nyc ludwig van coming out of my room and just staying there for hours on end but anything else so that his blessed documentary on netflix. That you sent me the artists. Oh yes oh my god it. don't get me on. That will be on it all night. He reminded me of him. When you were talking about the fact that usually just start a piece of work and then to see it through to the end you don't take back anything. And that's what his process was wasn't it. Well can you just say what his name was without going on a massive time into the. Yes and there's a documentary on netflix. About artists astonished laughs zukowski for which i've just purchased one of these artworks. Actually did that date of so excited. It's got spelling mistake on the print. for cheaper price in. It should be but it's it's an original Arguably one of the most incredible sculptures in history it like to that of wrote in excetera and t created bronze and different artworks even though he was blind in one eye and they destroyed in the war so no one ever got to see the he just keeps a few expenses away now but this guy met him quite by chance and they struck up a friendship and zukowski eventually left him as a state. But it's a beautiful story and it really struck a chord with me. Abou- i'm not comparing myself to sculpture of all time. Even though i just did a monster become in this not now no. It's some people are just born to do things. That's that's what i consider and extremely privileged and humbled and excited that navy said he full years old. I finally found my was born today on everything. Copy doing this all. My is now the radius good way of keeping tabs on sobriety. But also. I feel like i'm doing something for the world when i do. It just feels right. Food gives you come for something we wanted to talk about. We were going to be later on. She ought i'd really love to hear is and this is something you've obviously mustard. Got really good at. How do you balance this kind of thing. Which is one. It's a hobby. But this sounds like this. Is you wrote most passionate. How balanced with the everyday facets of life is so hard a massive massive task when we know that from this podcast. I'm eating an incredible book. At the moment. I still read announced by the time to read gracie it some promise. Delphin dolphin gallery says when going into this. You have to log cabin. You have to be vernon administrator to a certain extent. Because if i had a team to do this it wouldn't be my work. None of it. And i also think that you've got to so encouraged people by example on this twenty four hours a day. Is that when i say. Can i sleep a lot because i'm a sloth so i get like this. It does no point. When i'm not doing this. Just sold a painting right now stuff and doma fired. I'm like okay so it's constant it's like it's it's tiring and it's hard work. I think if my ideas safe. I put into it now. Eventually if i get to my drain someone i trust. I can solve. Shed that with eventually. That will be a plan. So i've stopped this kind of art friends thing which my might help a little bay is a. It's it's a lot. i was talking to my psychologist. Is the diabetics actually considering getting work. So i can pop those emails down a certain point and just you know having a personal thanks to my personal stuff. That might be a bit. When people in the world don't have one phone that might be a bit also get like a burner phone. Just talk a little knock yellow line. That sounds way. Doesn't it play some primitive dodgy or something like that key much like can get flat. Cap night fills notices drive around in some rubbing reliant. My first boyfriend rubbing rely on just shows how long ago with a man good times. Sorry so it's difficult. It's hard work and you have to be incredibly driven. Incredibly structured book luckily enough. I like doing stuff like that. I finally got myself decent computer decent. That will be an kaya funny point of may i never buy myself things and i have talked about it at night by all the time and i believe i have to be tortured to be good to be one thing and it's not the case. It just makes your life a fuck of a lot easier when you have a computer actually works instead of like seven different parts of Books that you've like kind of put together in some way in the needs to be on charge. All the time and never take days is just a breath of fresh air and it makes your workload easier but not. Everyone has the ability to do that. I've worked too long time. I think to able to buy those things myself. And it's taken an awful lot. Psychologically to allow myself to house those things in its daily struggle polar would say before that you gotta make what you've got work i've been on it. You gotta wake up and thing right. What do i need to do to get to the next stage. What little bit boring tasks not. Everything's going to be fun and exciting and rewarding. What horrible miserable thing. Amassing as the next six months to make this happen. I'm exactly. I do like admin. Joe my friend. George says he likes. I've been to. There's lots of admin to be done. i think we've all kind of retrospectively looked to admin our lives of late as well. i mean. it's a very boring time. You kind of look for things you can be doing like that or i do any way to relieve. I'm not big fan of sitting endless amounts of time on the television. I love film and the certain things that will become obsessed with like war documentaries on love a good wal documenting. But i'm not an awful fan of kind of sitting in the bedroom and doing that need to kind of do different things in different places end. Anita woke today is what i've got to get my walking. It's just been really really structured in. Just say yet you can go and help you. Don't but when he come back you this this is this today. Do this and also find time to research and further your own practice as well. Because i do a fulltime job and sometimes you know. We're all stressed within our work. And when you come home is hard to kind of get your brain Stay into his own into your happy place without alcohol to help Anything of that nature. I guess on that just to revisit what we spoke about in our last conversation. Obviously the the topic of our conversation last time your own. It was about yo sobriety about how you gave up. Alcohol is that going. How's that journey develops over the last few months. I guess stifle six eight and hired a radio wave moment at christmas because it was my second of christmas i go and spend it with friends in cheshire than they really all very being maker a wonderful time. I really really really enjoyed my time. That and i was glad i was able to in my kind of bubble but it doesn't leave you. It's it's not something that just downs his away after a year. It's still very there and it always at christmas. Time is when you most kind of worry or risk that something could happen. I saw live like that. I've not. I've not felt the pangs yet of radi ready wanting and needing to drink. I've got very close. Said i've just but it's been over kind of trivial things retrospectively looking at the. I'm lucky enough to know of experienced any loss during this pandemic so far the main thing i think about is a know Very to me one day they will be there. I wonder how all cut when something wealth massive happens in my flight worries me. It's a concern because curious. Curiously have built this whole business. Enterprise on it. Going with the fact that i'm gonna be sober. I'm not going to drink alcohol again. Because like i said a company the sopa painted with without so trump myself but but so far so good. I don't wanna. I didn't wanna not trap myself because if you just can't the sometime sober painter it doesn't really have the same ring to it. But it's a very real situation to put yourself in and you know. As as the business grows Affectionately called it a business. It's it's a very early stage kind of autism network and a marketplace for for new. But you know is it develops their hope it will that will increase the pressure and unite. The world just loves to some unfold full down. So i worry a can't go through life thinking like that because you can't be angry con do all these things kosei will only help you. It will. hindi was says she's never into television. They never watch it. But you know. I was watching this neck. Fix so convention about walter mccaw vow. Who was famous famous spanish astrologer and he went to his entire life. Just thinking positively positive thinking doing good only saying nice things to people even though they were evil. Nasty to make fun of Just continually said nice things and he was considered almost like messiah in spain. Fulfilling people with joy goodness and happiness through astrology. Another kind of things that he did not scenes like a good good way to follow just worries of their. They'll always be there. We always risk death or law saul hurt in everything that we do so we have to kind of try own is if as if none of the is hurting. Try as best. We can enter to form something in this own steady. Well that we're in just a little blip deep you've been featured in a couple of sabah applications and the the sober community seems to have. I don't know i never knew that. That was a saber community. Hell the last few months where. I've seen you popping up on various different blogs and stuff like that that you've been sharing. How is that community helps ye in the yo journey. And how have you been to help some other people in in that journey as well. This is such an interesting question to ask gordon. Because you'll know from the conversations that we've had about the church. I am ferociously against kind of groups or self help groups in grapes any grouping groups of any kind. I'm not going to join your group would have been Message girds just alone. So it's been massive surprise really to find solace in a hope in a group of people that i don't know really toll but someone account remember the profile. I'm really annoyed now. Book recreation day. Just like when you're in recovery and when you all your yourself every moment so you have to check yourself all the time just to make sure you're not kind of go into that place thinking about it and i checked myself so often now that i often am too busy checking myself to realize that i'm probably offending someone doing something else so easily buffalo all the time and it's nice to know that some people out there through not knowing mayo have a predisposition about may keep saying tiny niger doing. Good all just. You've got this. Today's like the could be the best day you never know on. I think rubbed off some group. Now it's something. I've never experienced before that sense of belonging or having a tribe as it were in my personal life professional life and now my other life as an i think of started opening up a little bit more to people and listening to them i said i think i said unless poster who is listening in the true sense of listening but amplifying that reading listening to what people have in turn been been very honest with what i have to stay and that sometimes lands me disciple like profit moments and sometimes get into very very big trouble on for that we can i can. I can only local myself ralian. H within that community die found friends. Lifelong friends actually was incredible. Quite ironic considering how against that kind of thing. You are have been certainly integrate when drunk. It's my favorite thing just a big old grape about the town. But soon as i stopped drinking. I tried to make an action then to describe. I couldn't say with my voice. I just started like an it was almost like a nucleus coming smaller and smaller and smaller became. No no no no. No i mean when we used to. I used to love it out in the lash was my favorite thing. I used to stay as late as possible for as low as possible. I'm not going. I'm not going a then. It just went. My will become a lot smaller than it went at. Mike with lockdown became a lot smaller. And i think we we all became accelerated reading my tarrico's and getting the hermit of single time. I'm not yet no shit. Just like but that feeling of previously loving loving in the crowd and then suddenly ignore not liking it. because i didn't have my warpaint. Maybe that part of it. Yeah you almost protecting yourself or you. Just think you know what socially i prefer quality conc- right now is going to help me focus and cheap. I want to achieve. I'm chris probably your decided that they not social side of it has probably grodin go better because of that so actually think well you know this power in reducing that mouth people and focusing on me. I think so. I think like. I was selling into everybody else's business so into it. It the are used to do used to be around everybody else. I've never curiously like in women. Autism isn't quite the same as men amusing this in the case of differentiate between men and women identified as the woman factor because genetically. You know i have to do that. That my brain is is a woman's brian but women tend to just totally opposite to men. Most people think autism like very long doesn't expect debris title the opposite way. Love going out a just. Didn't there's a lot to be said. For really valuing your time really valuing who give it to An i will. I had a strict kind of look. At where i put my time. And i found massive gaps. That i counted spin on the lash being dove drunk. Massive kind of light days turned into nights turned into days again. And i needed to put that time somewhere else and my admitted needed to be not ringing the drug dealer. I'll do the up menu. it'll be may also all this out again a sense of power as well. It was only prolifically saying wanted to bay but through completely different made him. Yeah also the hour. i'm you go. i'll find the one. I can get that foyer but just kind of taking multiple put it in a different section. That's because i'm still her. Flynn in my brain. I'm still doing the same things i always did. But it's a different calls and if you're passionate passionate in the actions that you're doing passionate in what you creating and what you're laying down for yourself. then that convene punted to anyway it used to be today implanted very negatively. I could last. As i could do so many things in the day i could if i was drinking i could. I could start meal pobox. Go to a gay guy. Come back another kick up a london by the evening. I'd be somewhere else because it was always this fast. And it's how my body operates is how i work having to purposely. Slow down it ever since the was the my scariest thing i've been slow. I don't know if you know anything to do. I make plums based resumes. I wake up. Do i execute this pardons but i found myself like struggling the things today. I then went. Well i wanna have drink though. I want to have a drink. That's what i need to do. Some unknown persons house at six. Am in the morning talking about octa gop shy to them. What do i do. This is shifting from longtime prospects and goals. And would they fancy buzz words to the shorts and happiness and enjoyment. We get from those movements. Because you know it's gonna lay up you know it's gonna eventually ruins coal but you keep going because it's good. I think he's a bit of that. And i think we've all done over the last year or so. We have to slow down a little bit because you have to slow it down on focusing on what you probably should be putting your energy into the easy to get in the mindset of. I'm going to do this than it's all about right. I'm going to do now. And i'm going to show actually going to put those things into place that for so long. I've known i've beauty to do. But now i can do it. It's also a lot. More classier raliess netflix. Tolkien quite literally. I didn't i didn't yet understand that to demonstrate true class. One you know doesn't doesn't have to be influenced by by drugs or alcohol has to come from you have to keep bringing it from a place that isn't caused by something. It has to be something unlocked that requires no stimulants to it. Has to be something there. Got what my talk about now and all that has to be nurtured and it has to grow Say so in. Said's things out but it really is learning the power of posing taking stock of what you've got Then preparing for any to do next to reach an elevated level of some an inspirational speaker. Now do i need to sign up here. Youtube channel or something like super. Maybe who knows what's to come. no. I'm not very good. I'm good at. I can speak to you but i couldn't be on this cameras in going anywhere so on. Move a lot when i talk as well so appropriate probably looked like a away. Just shooting around on the screen also said that last deny he's still alive. Isn't me ozzy. Osbourne people were just live labor for darnold. Sorry dune no go go. You've got it. I'm not saying that. Or am i so if i was to say the the phrase can i be your friend to you. Yeah what what does that mean. So in china. Now gordon i go in contact with an artist that goes by the name of cloud nico we. How did we think. Instagram was the the recovery stuff on instagram But communities and stuff like that. And that's i colleges had directed them to me because the psychologist said the. We painted the same. I've never met the psychologist. But kind of like to meet because my biggest promoter only because meeting nick was one of the best things that really happened a person who is I'm shoulder what mommy sign is about to undergo an adhd assessment and. I'm about to undergo an autism assessment. So we really worked wearing quite special place as two individuals. Just to really kind of cheryl story and talk about voces identifying neutrally both of us kind of pan sexual i suppose in a way in different ages because quite younger than i fought like cheese. A sunny barrowed eyesight. It's it's kind of become this beautiful carnival friendship and we always laugh and say We're all friends Friends and then. I decided to make it into a real key thing so the goal is really just to kind of united artists In recovery unites artists. That use a a thing to help with struggles of mental health in every kind of capacity whether that be nora diversity. Kind of depression anxiety. Anyone that wants to come on board really. I wanted to create what. I've coin a mindful marketplace. And i haven't done my research so the could be ten of them outlet twenty four billion. I'm china myself to do not as much research as well. Because i attend to get quite involved all that. It's a marketplace with a calf for those individuals that are in recovery are struggling with different things. Because it's it's not. It's not amazon for all. Its we believe in ethically sourcing and kind of using europe in a massive way our friends in europe different artists. We've obviously left the european union. But i haven't not one bit so so forging those rates across europe and world actually theresa's coming on board with us. You'll hear from soon whose current eighth houston by international lives in the final islands. The undiscovered just above scotland interest in the. I found this out the other day. I was called an idiot by mungo friendlier. I in the caribbean. I genuinely for the federal. In the caribbean this very lengthy email detailing. How have you on board but yet bit worried about postage. How's it going to work and obviously hotel the looker weather. Pharaoh is why they're not that far away actually. I didn't even neither thorough orlands worth thing. What would what are the faroe islands that country no like province festival. Don't offend the people of the faroe islands by saying that you didn't know they were thing. They're very real. I apologize to everybody in the faroe islands right now for my ignorance you do exist. You are real. I just sorry farrow's it's not very fast awful absolutely awful and that's what is probably a good time to say that this record in his. I haven't met too razia. But when i do to raise it. I'm really sorry. We've got meeting pontiac. I all friends meeting lunden on monday evening. But it's just been fire email and shot so far meeting. I'm guessing you're not traveling up to faroe islands. Faron doing kind of old video co. base for now because to try and get us each of us out with that kind of hull that you get into when you all talk. So it's it's gonna be kind of an network for all kinds of artists every kind of autism but the the unites through kind of recovery mental health. I'm going to host kind of reputa- things online and just commit to signing. Every single diet set time at seven pm. Just two people just to be there in discussing sometimes Some people very softly don't have that person to around to go. What does this painting need. The needs of the gals. And that's very sad. And i just kind of want to offer an ear to those people in in in kind of with them and try and sometimes it's for me i i'd like we were talking about min. I love doing admin so it's one of my favorite things but that's because i have autism. I love let's whereas someone schizophrenic for example is in deep depression might not want to do kind that Or or do that themselves. They might fail Just enough energy just to lift the paintbrush. That's all they can do in the dining. And that's fine and i am going to offer kind of representation service for those people. The said wants to sell their work. But just have no clue it Imposed the kind of structure. The island price myself with other people in other people's works and try and growing nonsense because econ con- you can't really be successful by selling law things. I don't think anymore when he when he sell a painting you've given that wondrous thing to somebody else to having their little place and what needs to happen is art needs to be shed in order for us all to appreciate it site. People can buy a picasso manet and you just gonna stick on your wall. It needs to be shown to people so we can all experience this and i want to kind of implement that through printing what we've painted and offering up for sale as well. Then things got this lots in the party line. We did a little post how to go. But i come from a video ground so i'm learning sounders while and that was just main nico is chatting so the would destroy much going on to at some point really ask myself. Should i move into this as a career but at the moment onto solve holding it together this as long as lockdowns on business is good because i can. I can but soon as it's fulltime job again it gets really difficult and that was going to be questioned by events it so i thought boston. Ub something Let's say you're bats work can to. You're probably gonna have five to six months of touring of rubbing and you have to make a big decision. And i think you know what the decision is in a way but you have to see that when he comes to it. 'cause roy moore because if you think about your gripe maybe the last couple of years really if it keeps going that way you all need to have lot more urban but they love i've been somewhat about certain episodes just adleman with kate could just hire george actually also out now at the. I think it's important to come to these points in in your life. But i would think is people say. Take a leap you know. Take a leap of faith and having been someone. That's been very early in the past and in a lot of leaper fates in my time. I have the knowledge. That duck doesn't always plan. And i think particularly in the professional art world is not. It's not easy sector is what little research. I've done eight days very difficult to get into become to become known. I think there's a. There's a choice. Remade do. I want to be do. I want to be a successful artists that sells a lot of work. Make myself a lot of money on. Do i wanna be a kind of figure ahead influence someone that can help by putting that the extra working in starting something that could really benefit people and i think i choose the second one because i am so terrible with money. Believable of just. It's taken me a year to buy a north face puffy jacket and i bought off ebay because couldn't Spending so much money to buy new. I have radio big problem with with allowing myself to spend money kind of treating myself so just trying to. I just don't know what this is yet. And that's that's something rarely that i need to work on. That is fine will mean golden. Start this process. We have no idea what we were doing it. Absolutely no idea just bigger how we still don't of course you never will you think. Ceo sits in his massive desk and he built this incredible company from absolutely nothing in the kind of knife was going on still fucking clueless. He's just so many things. Well that everything builds up together but probably still have that anxiety in question of my god what we doing. We're doing this right. Is this gonna come tumbling down. It's something that will never stop. I think well if we look at it again like chess boat. I mean the pieces are at the moment to make it all happen and no doubt that will change in the. I've just been very lucky with the choices. I've made in the things that i've put out what time but that comes from. I think i am blessed and cursed in a sense with the i have a brain that never switches off. I obsessively and i use that word without hesitation. It's it's what i do. I obsessively research things and people and that gives me enough ingredients to to launch these things. Do these things. But that's also a curse because you know been so obsessed with subjects. is part by autism. It's part of the thing that naturally would limit may in an doesn't i think in a corporate sector because just i just can't play by everybody's roles. I much prefer feeling my way three things. I just made cut motions. That looked quite strange on screen. But it has to be felt with me. It has to you know someone could say. Oh that's not right. i'll i'll agree to it. I have to feel it too. Know it with sandwiches certainty around the pandemic. You know. I normally act on on impulse in or flight and i normally go okay. How can i experienced this. So i know we have a very awful thing really because the people that have been affected which i am so sorry for a i haven't yet been affected by the pandemic so i'm just going full steam. No not lost anyone yet. So i can't make tangible so right now in my brain and this is a situation where anything can happen. I'm literally wonderland throwing things out there. Saying they get picked up poor doing things like not sign. And i think i will continue to do that until something happens. Which will inevitably. But it's just forming the right support networks for the. When eventually does an adult francis a great way to to create a group of people that will pick each other up when that happens because when you are working with mental health recovery. It's not. I've done all this qanon. It's like i've done all this weapon of managed to get you into this whole just long enough so i can put some duct tape on it until next time. And i think that's a really important thing to consider in really my my thoughts throughout this whole getting this collective together site. Where what do these people do when that happens. Who do they have to rely on. Say spaces is never should never be underestimated. You need them. Think about your dog is times how you need that person. You need that group. We've all been there some point. She won't be able to do it yourself. And and not so k. And recognizing as a massive bustle the after over and we always on the show but men shook would law but everyone should be struggling with white. Now why now right now as well. I think it's worth saying as well you know at this stage in my small life. I don't have a partner completely single a sausage. And i think that would chain. I wouldn't be able to work as much as identified. If i heard someone and that will be choice to make when it comes as well. Obviously the suits is accusing out the door in a very open to have been. I thought we had something going on. Honestly just come up so much today. Gordon you haley would marry highly on workshop. Kind of mike apparently right. I read my cars this today just to make sure for the cost ratings. They're saying the same thing but big into astrology. Hate me if you want to know fox given it as like my thing and it says i'm about to meet someone that's like my divine one. The person that's meant for me and it was really way it is. It said this person has done so much work on themselves. They've done just as much as you. And they truly understand how how much it taken to get to this point for you. And they've done the same thing and you'll marry them so if you're listening hooky listeners. Dial in now. I cannot wait so you briefly touched on earlier when you were talking about cloud nico and the the relationship you got with them to give me. Because this isn't one of the questions that we kind of past stop but you mentioned about being gender fluid gender-neutral. I'm still quite early days. That will i think it's a combination of artistry. I'm personal feeling. I think when you paint. I think it's important to pay on gendered. I think that's haven't sutton thought about it long enough to quantify it on so that really encompasses everything but definitely feel that. I'm starting to move towards a period of my life. Where i do not associate with a particular agenda identifies physically physically female but i think in in my brain. The idols on chosen in some bows birthday today. I didn't know that's why i was so pleased. She said she wanted to record on this particular day when he played in this particular day. But he's been one of my idols. Ever since i was little and played with gender without hesitation. Really i think in this day and age. Sometimes there are a lot of words for things and like to to define and give us too. I'm at the very beginning of whatever that unfolds to be but yeah to support the community in to raise awareness within myself of what i want to bay. I have decided to Definitely portrays the self. I present at work and within business as than they are now nia. Forgive me. I haven't really thought about as much as i won't to accept so busy. Obviously and that there will come a time that i need to explore that. But i haven't found the time to explore that yet because these decisions affect kind of your life like what kind of partner do i wanna be with. Who do i wanna present to do. I need a partner. What just genital mean to them. Whoever they will be end additional questions. I think right now. We've been allowed this universal pause and were allowed to kind of put things up in the air and leave them blowing in the wind and see what comes back afterwards and things on that so yeah. I think it's a very exciting time. I think for the moment in business and definitely my job. I want to identify them personally. And exploring with a partner dot will have to be seen for now. I think that's okay to say as well. Oh yeah of course the start of a process and not as a process. Some of the you really got to work out the price of pronouns. Oh maybe not you could come back and we could evolve that 'cause we have actually got some things in the west of the next welcoming this year which kind of touch on this objects to from will be good to maybe hear from them and then maybe at some point we could hear from you how i might the. I guess that's been invited back. You are the first guest has combat. I can't quite believe what i'm talking to you about. Does that make sense. Because it's like a dream. I'm just so very happy. That even get this far with it. And i just intend to share the happiness that it brings me really. It's it's so odd to you. Know i did. A asset design cost and then later in that video designer. Enough lectured universities. And when you're talking about something that you do something that's your craft it comes with all these things that you have to learn said like to be a video designed to lend this and to be a set designer entity technical drawing scale model make blah blah blah and so much to talk about but when it comes to true self and south truth. There's very little to say because it's almost like yeah baen today. This found my my kolding. Have you seen that new disney pixar film this soul. Is it cool. Yeah is very sad. At times i didn't any of that probably cost more. But i did get from an about someone really searching for that purpose and they think the a an artist a jazz artist and they worked so hard and trying to be this and then they read is just one day the this just find to be themselves and that actually serves them a lot better than than any kind of decision making a make a mental note. What's in them practicing. Every single day is the best medicine that you can give yourself. I and you're told us from a young age when your child is now is fine than you think you try and mold yourself a little bit in those teenage years and a lot of the time you kind of mold yourself a little bit one. Kick the economy. Feel the last thing i think that points in mixes aspire to change a. When is good changes. Brilliant if ickes orchestrated in the correct way you know we we. We are a country say yeah salads and then so quintessentially on the other hand stop someone from been themselves so absolutely by bullying all cubs groups. That's how i felt. Groups were so not necessarily someone. That's been particularly ostracized. I would say 'i ostracize myself more through choice feet don't fit the mold and i've never felt that way. I've never felt. I've often describe it as banana alien. You know looking in on on a world. i don't feel. I belong to a definitely struggle with no certificates. Talk about because i am very social. I'm really social person. But if you if you really listen to me and get past the fact. I've taught myself to be eloquent. You actually you will hear what i'm talking about is jumbled. Sometimes i just disguise it under what. I learned speech and drama schools. To do which is to to speak with vega and things like that but actually when you get down to what. I'm saying there are some things that are quite disjointed. Not not roy. An that is the very nature of of my brian. And how i am. So i try and read as much off for for me as a way of joining. We talking about an. There's a japanese pottery that has gold when smash they build it back together in gold. An account. Remember for the life of me what the patriots cold. But it's like it's an awful because this pot has been put back together with the most precious metal that you can find really then this beauty in its extreme disfigurement but also in in the fact that it is able to rebuild things that outcome attacked one. Say link if i can possibly find what you said. I'm sure that and kind of poetry nico be like probably shouting at the screen or any other artists considering. Yes something like that. Yeah i can see it can see pottery is. It's interesting because i think you kind of touched on this. We like you said we were told. Sbs yourself be unique individual and yet we're obsessed with putting people in boxes and giving people labels you are an artist. You are a a builder. You are male. You are female. You're gay you straight and yet all of those things are just arbitrary times that we've created to try and make sense of the world when in reality we're a complex mash of all these kind of things i think. Sometimes we become so obsessed with this these labels that we think okay. Well i want to be a builder at math. Or i need to do this this this and this or i want to be a musician and therefore you know and i really like this musician so i need to be exactly like them emoto my life after them when actually true individuality is transcending all of those labels and realizing that actually those labels don't really anything they are just helpful words to help us to understand the world but actually if we hold ourselves to them and allow them to kind of be is is almost like we the labels are there to help us understand the world but we become so obsessed with the we miss the world because we're so obsessed with the labels. Yeah anything we find different kind of discussions about this in our personal time over this lockdown in video gordon in we we come from very different ends of the same place when when it's around although i think tell us small story light. I don't know if i should show this book. I'm going to my is committed to one of the most offensive things that's ever happened to me was done out of someone just trying to be kind and i didn't correct them at first because i didn't feel i needed to but diving into this dive into the artwork dark myself in such a way and believe me being in this sort of limited space now as you were the where i've stripped everything back. I likened it to a skeleton. An constricting back to this low building in that potter way in the muscles way putting on the body kind of thing they it was bought by job. I was working at the time. And they said you'll fantastic you know you're an incredible person with so much talent. You're just not meant for here. And i was like at first going. Oh yeah that's great thing for someone to say. Yes fantastic yeah call. So i'm going to be great. Then when i actually saw about roy moore like like. That's not nice because it's like. Yeah you're going to be great in your own world. You just don't belong in mine. Oh yeah. I really appreciate everything you're doing but you cope with the rest of us. You have to be somewhere else because you'll take crazy that this this job this world and not just really ready. So explains what's going on with the world really. And i would have been someone that would be really pro kind of labeling myself and been in a category but i'm not anymore not because they when it all comes down to it doesn't mean anything it's a way of control you know. It's fair enough saying untalented. I'm incredible but i don't fit in your gown yet. This things i do. That don't agreeable. You know it's it's kind of tempered. Fading and i just ran. Is that a true individuality. True true creation. If you like comes from denouncing everything i say is the best place for me to be in my room with only the stimulus i choose around me from that comes ultimately nothing. Yeah it's putting requirements where that doesn't need to be requirements. Is you d to be this to fit here. But that's not the case Is not read these things. It's it's it's like almost the world at the moment it's exactly the the. Don't get me on politics site. We'll let will that a large majority all white people stolen the competition and just lead them out on a woman. Someone press so harness nekia. He was dead end. The only thing that separates those people is the color. If we were allowed to obey ourselves so stringently the world would just be a happy place because when you're allowed to be yourself completely the no worries because you're not measurement in yourself to anyone. Why would you because if you're only being own the path of what you deem to be yourself the no one can interfere with that you can take something from someone and say oh my god yeah love that hack up. Maybe i'll try that. Does it with me. But then there's a process of gun will now look stupid shave off. it's not kind of reoccurring circle that we're in and if we force ourselves to look so introspectively into us than the Racism homophobic people it. Because because there's no space it's such a massive journey trying to work out who you are. How have you got time to already. Of what type who. That person is what they stand for what they are. You just physically impossible to do that. Because i've tried for thirty four years to what meow and i'm still not even close. So how someone's doing it on. The capitalist been looks to a bit when educate. i need to get the name of his teacher to completed. Yeah it's been it's been a hell of a six months. It's been amazing on so happy and grateful to be able to do this. And i will try and keep doing it for as long as possible because i think the needs to be something that unites people and something to work full because at the end of the day we work said loads of different people. 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The South Florida Morning Show hr 1  2-16-21

The South Florida Morning Show

35:03 min | 5 months ago

The South Florida Morning Show hr 1 2-16-21

"The south florida morning show with jennifer. Ross in bill adams on news. Talk eight fifty. Mtl perhaps you recognize me. It's your favorite president right. He didn't say that at the end. But i had that same so i wanted to play it. It seemed appropriate some out. What's amazing that here's a guy that's been out of office for. How many months now Maybe a month and a half. He gathered more people at just along southern boulevard at southern parker which is on The west side of the southern boulevard. Bridge then i think biden did during any of his rallies or maybe will for people watching this thing. Tonight is townhall deal. I i think you're going to get like ten people to watch. What do you mean you you. You don't mean sleepy. Joe couldn't Rally people in southern boulevard. Kmart or in. Where's he from delaware. You know what amazed me the most about this whole thing. Yesterday was we knew what was happening by the way right after we get off the air we got a phone call from somebody said leaves at twelve o'clock. I was like okay. Thanks very much. Yeah everybody stop calling the front desk call here of course going to give out the number too much but or send us an email. Just go to the fifty w. f. t. l. dot com website. And you get a link right there on our page but send us an e mail because the poor guy at the front desk jay was ready. He goes these people. Keep on calling because your planes leaving at noon knows i worked. It was like okay. Jay television but the bus. They had the trump bus there did. Y'all see the trump banners trump twenty twenty four. Yes flags trump twenty twenty four. That was shirts they were everywhere ended up already now. That's not from the campaign but still there's a lot of 'em somebody's somebody's planning it. I was yeah. Wow i was kinda shocked. I was like wow i know he was going to run again. Let me ask you this Because that convince me yesterday with the size of the crowd again. Just listen to the people that was just a little piece of it is because it was president state by the way i think the staying power for this thing will actually happen. I mean i could see these things going on a few years. Honest to god. I think wherever he's gonna go. He's going to get a crowd. Isn't it amazing again. We we come back to. Here's a man by himself. He doesn't sing. he doesn't dance. He doesn't enter twelve yesterday does entertain but now he's the former president but when he was campaigning the same thing thousands of people show up missouri world sky. Remember the letter came out and said Much to share with you which will become pretty soon. I think i don't know through what form maybe it'll be oppressed if the l. the press conference right now on the lawn mar-a-lago make every network would cover it. They would because they're starving for for trump content taught nothing they get sleepy joe so part of this the work that starting to leak out though he told Sonny perdue get ready dot running again. And i think that was from trump. Not purdue run again because we're in georgia. I think so. He was the one who lost to. Oh soften that georgia runoff fever do. I'm sorry yeah. He filed yesterday in said he's running for the senate again so should be interesting to see and i think it was because you got a phone call from trump absolutely. I had a feeling trump's going to financially back anybody that's running against the seven while the six republicans because one of them is already retiring right. They six republicans have voted against him and everybody else that he can't stand most of the democrat. I think we've actually gone from. Hey i think maybe you know in the future is going to throw support behind these people now. I think it goes like this. You get like a call or your secretary says president trump just left you a message. Did they get invited to the white house tomorrow. Lago no he says you're going to be running for senate okay but i have a job now. You're going to be running. He says so. I think that's what's happening. It should be interesting to see. It should be interesting. But i was that that little impromptu rally yesterday was incredible and of course they must have known he was at playing golf again. Do we know he's been playing golf with. Because we know lindsey graham come into town hopefully not today. It's supposed to rain today. They won't be playing golf. They'll be hanging out at mar-a-lago lindsey doesn't care. He just wants five minutes of attention with the former president of nagging for time forgiveness. At this point he'll stand out like that guy in caddyshack. They got hit by lightning. He'll hold the clubs. That's what it takes lindsay's like can i clean your cleats. Mr president please. I'll do anything. Let me back in. I got it. Hey guide diener back early rally. No i wasn't. There was flying the plane though with the. Thank you lindsey graham. What's the movie with john. Cusak res out there the radio say anything anything. He's got a boom box please. Mr president love you. You've got bad. He's the dawn. Go pay respects to the non well. A lot of people paid respects than he came by with the motorcade and he was like oh it was just like he was still president again. Incredible wild i mean you're right. What former president could pull that kind of a crowd to have bush walk down. Have bush walked out over the southern boulevard bridge. You'll be lucky. If the construction people wave he was guy was running for president and had to go. Please clap god. Got to feel sorry for our friends over in texas and oklahoma and nebraska any other state but us do you realize they said by this afternoon. Seventy percent of this nation will be covered in snow. seventy percent. ooh the it is so okay. this is how cold it is okay. We're we'll alberda candidate. I know it's cold and albert assure. It was so cold that last night during a charity hockey game. They had to cancel it because the puck kept on shattering. what forty below zero when. It's too cold for hockey. You know something's wrong. Wow one hundred and fifty. Four million people from dallas to like tennessee now or under a cold advisory of sorts and this should be a lesson to us all a lesson that the president told us about. This darling is the wind blowing today. I'd like to watch television darling next. We'll talk about how those wind turbines are doing in texas good for them. How's that green power. Oh boy that killer cuomo total. Sociopath he is i've come to. This conclusion is coming up next east south florida morning. Show tuesday. there's jenna. Bill keep it here for news coming up at six thirty gut debt. So what do you have some good news about. Those who have suffered from harm reduction model. Shall i say culture. The new term for harm reduction model. I'm supposed to remember that. I have a problem with cancel vocal. If they don't you don't remember that so so parlors visually back online. Have you partnered yet you be. I tried to log on and i couldn't. I'm that may be a password problem on my own end though that might have been operator error. I can't remember what my password was. It's been so long. Yeah and if you're a new person if your new customer you gotta wait till next week. I guess yeah i wonder if has Trump parlor yet. I don't know what does it cost on parlor not tweeting. It's there's a name for it anyway. A parlay are lay so It they no longer need big tech to operate. I wanna know who's providing the servers. Interesting would it be trump that that's the question. Your thought that the minute i saw that came up yesterday said trump. The server amazon pulled their servers and Yeah all right. Well that more coming up we shall see. I don't know thank you karen. I tried to get on that today. Trump are elon. Musk yeah he lawn his He's all about free speech. He's all about it. That's the starling things l. About by the way speaking that we have a launch last night we had a lunch. There's good news. The satellites are on their way to whatever these startling can not on how they connect to each other. The bad news is Yes i still love you the ship you know that's out there. Of course i love you. The solid rocket thing missed it and went into the ocean lost. They lost it. So is it ever flotation device. You think or is it just now a wreck Attractions goes oh. That's too band. Fortunately so that was One of the mishaps of last night but the launch took the launch was successful. All right well some good news bad news for most of the rest of the country except us you look at the. It was so mean. And you're exactly right. This isn't the. I usually love doing this to my brothers. Don't do it now because probably send somebody out to beat. You usually send he picture of beautiful florida skies while they're suffering but now you look at the weather map now and it's like frozen ice and then just south florida is like red. And that's all you see it as a big middle finger to the rest of the country. They went through just in texas alone. Okay texas and oklahoma. It's the coldest temperatures they've had since the eighties and it is so called in texas now every every in it's the first time in almost fifty years that every county in texas is under some kind of storm alert and it's right and then they ran out of power and they had to do rolling blackouts when it's twenty below zero outside millions of people millions of people without power it's not just texas oklahoma nebraska. It's a bunch of different states and get this the wind turbines that they've all of a sudden decided to go to in texas a certain part. I guess it's central texas right froze more than two point. Seven million texans directly because of the wind turbines are out of power because of the wind turbines freezing. Wait a minute who told us that wind power wasn't the answer darlene the wind blowing today. I'd like to watch television darla remember. I'm sorry not lowing tonight. Not of wind well. I don't think they ever thought that these things would freeze. Yeah you know because the weather is is Gr- granted it's really like once in one hundred years but still if you're relying on if it's twenty below zero ten below zero whatever the case may be and you don't have power. How the hell you staying warm you now. Cold it gets. And he had all the feature stories of i feel terrible for because they don't know what to do the texas homeowners who they they've never had to deal with frozen fights before didn't know how to prepare for it and now they're stuck in for good plumber after all this down there in a kidding they'll be busy or somebody who fixes windmills turbines. Or whatever you call them all right. Well i think we've all come to the group conclusion that andrew cuomo killer. Cuomo is an absolute sociopath of without a doubt the press conference yesterday. And here's what's even worse you know was just as much to blame. Jin the media that went right along with the narrative. Now focus has shifted to the nursing home staff. Of course it's the nursing homes fault listen to this. Covert did not get into the nursing homes by people coming from hospitals covert guide into the nursing homes by staff walking into the nursing home. Liar what how do you even try. Well i know how you try to get away with that not one follow up question on that. Nobody calling him on the carpet. Nobody challenging him. Nothing i if this guy walks away and ends up running again in wins then i will never talked to anybody who ever voted for this man in new york again. Or that's ridiculous or we need to really look at even closer than we thought. We had do the elections in this country. Because there's no i. I i don't see it. It's impossible even with the fake news coverage covering for him apologizing for him does no possible way. He's getting in legally no possible way. I you know what i if this. If this doesn't result some way shape in criminal charges against this guy because we also remember is is he was secretary. Was the one apologizing. Right on that phone derosa. Yeah so all the legislators and then in the representatives from the state we now have one of those representative saying we are never told about any statistics. Yeah he says. Well here's cuomo. First of all is what he says about what you know what created the confusion wasn't the policy. It was the conspiracy theories and we reported everything we created by not providing information was filled with skepticism and cynicism and conspiracy theories which furthered the confusion. They reported everything was all on the up and up. And here's this state assemblyman you were talking about and he lost an uncle the covert apparently. That's not what we heard. That's not what she said. She even pre i the whole thing by saying i'm going to tell you the truth. This is the whole truth is lying right now to today's press conference about sending notices to the assembly and senate that we knew about the department of justice investigation. You were not informed number that they said She apologized because she said sorry for the trouble. We caused the because it's coming we. We're all going to be investigated he says. None of that was gonna happen. How can you stand. I can't stand listening to the man first of all winey sing song in wells. What you get past that. Then he'll kill ya. Yeah well then. Then i'll just lie straight to your face his somebody you know we're gonna talk to janice dean who's lost both of her inlaws father-in-law enter mother-in-law two separate facilities which say within a couple of weeks each other right because it is paul policy so she was first. She was elated because they said they were going to look into it now. It's like yesterday. She was like he's he. He gets away with this. I narrow maybe she can get wi with this councilman here and they can do something. Somebody's gotta hold this guy accountable. Here's the thing clearly not gonna come from the media up there. Although cnn picked up the story yesterday and that was shocking. But when you lose the new york democrats the embedded democrats up there right really in trouble. 'cause they're all turn it on them. Good which is finally a good thing. I hope they all turn on him. Get rid of him. he's he's horrible. And if he's responsible for these fifteen more than fifteen thousand deaths he should be held criminally responsible. I'm sorry for as my parents. My in laws my grandparents. Whatever mother father. I'd be all over this guy what was more. What if that number goes up. It's past the fifteen thousand. Were responsible for You know what if he's responsible for five deaths. He still should pay unbelievable horrible. He's a mean evil his. he's a sociopath. He doesn't give a crap. You got that right morning diener. Hey is i said a question you know he starts talking about. It's because of the staff. Workers there at the nursing homes. Cova came in. Oh yeah their fault. Why dow in mid february is that. That's the first time we're hearing about that. We didn't hear about that. I got caught six months ago. Eight months ago four months ago now right all the sudden. That's the reason that was the reason to let you think they would sit back in august. Yeah or they would've Y- put precautions in place or something. I don't know it's a joke. But now here's here's the sad part about this whole scenario if he can prove that these staff members didn't have p p on they didn't follow the regular covid nineteen protocol. Who's to say the staff didn't bring it in. That seems to be the angle because what he'll do is and then there's opening to blame trump for not getting p p so it's the staff members. Okay yeah that's what he's doing. It's doubt it's like in a trial you know. What if you can prove reasonable doubt than a. It can't find him guilty. he's i've side. There's a tornado warning for the southern southeastern part upon each county was spotted over miccosukee and it's headed In the south bay area so you want to take cover. He want to get into the bathroom or somewhere safe for this. It's a tornado warnings. Issued by the weather. Service thank you. We don't hear that too often. That's for sure weird weather days more on that in what the south is going through with all this stuff but you know what. There is some celebration. I feel bad for new orleans. But they're still having mardi gras kind of well. It's funny they get a new name for. Yeah which you know what. Let's let's help them out. That's going up an accident bill. O'reilly's warming up. See what he's talking about at six thirty south florida morning show gen bill. Keep it here so much. These south florida morning. Show this bill diener over there to cairns Actually linkin up right now with a lot of our weather. Sources in copy is on tv right now channel five talking about this tornado warning for palm beach county looks like the centralized part of it is in the western let lake northwest part of the county. Ear heading northeast. Yes so it it. Would eventually this really bad line of storms is going to hit near vero beach and then go out into the ocean so i are there. Any sirens for tornado warnings and palm beach county. This i don't know. I i don't think there are and when they do that i all. I remember about tornadoes. In this state was when michael hurricane michael hit and orlando remember orlando had all those tornados. Yeah all right. Everybody said they only had like twelve seconds and because they did have some sirens but none that as many as they needed and the area where some of these nato hit had none instead to i. So many people vaccine homes were devastated Looks like the worst of this storm. It's almost like you can draw a line of storms. Going at northeast angle. It's like through if you took just south of the lake and rent up at an angle that way and kind of going eventually through like indian town in that way right. So you're looking at the bill glade. Cahokia's of the area and western palm beach county and then going north from there so something to keep an eye on. We'll let you know exactly what's going on but You know again no confirmed anything yet but it is a tornado warning. It's not a watch so Said so be careful. Be careful something do Definitely keep an eye on in. The meantime is what came to town yesterday. A rally lesson for the tampa. Bay buccaneers no one for him. Was it for biden. No no president trump coming back home from a day out of the links met by there. Were thousands of people there. There really weren't if you just if you don't know the area just on the western side of the southern boulevard bridge which indirectly goes over the intercoastal and in the left hand side right after this limbo bought boulevard bridge is were you know the president lives so they usually keep people away from going over the bridge when they know he's coming back He was so any stopped right in the middle of it so they were just west of that southern parker and there were thousands and there was the trump bus there. The plane was flying over. It was quite the rally. Yeah for sure it really was and somewhere along the line he kind of cruise through and it looked like it was the beast. But it's not the beast obviously. It's his own personal vehicle and he stopped any wave and i was like. Wow now we got to the details. Because i really think after hearing this yesterday and again just listen to the i a lot of people. I think the staying power of this thing. It's not a flash in the pan. I think you're going to have at least unprecedented stay every year and maybe a couple a couple of times throughout the year a lot of these little impromptu rallies for i have a feeling that not only that but yesterday he called up david purdue in georgia and said. Put your name back in the the race. You're going to run for reelection right. I am going to support you. I'll come to all of your rallies are all host to rallies for you. And i'll give you financial banking and i bet you he's going to do that. Against every every senator every representative that gave him crap while he was president voted against him. Those seven actually the only six because one's retiring right and the and the seat where lara trump is supposedly running for. that's burr. he's gone but everybody else. Those other six. I'd be concerned mitt. Romney you'd better watch out. There's a bulls eye right to get you out of office. And he said. Do you remember the sixth. The The the the runoff vote in georgia. They're re came onstage rallying for those two and he said i'll be back because if this isn't workout i'll be back. He's come back. But you are al rally for we've gone from. Maybe these candidates will say mr president. Can we get your support here. We're running here to trump calling them going eight. Here's what you do. And you're running right. But i don't wanna run run your by guy. You're my girl. Can you imagine wow was the king-maker happens it's good for him. Good good good for him. I was. I was just so shocked. At how many people were there. I shouldn't be actually. It was but the trump twenty twenty four signs are everywhere the banners the flags the hats. I was like okay. Is it that wishful thinking by his supporters. Yeah he's at not run it again but i mean listen i i think he's more effective not running again to be honest with you. I agree with the handcuffs are off good for him and god Successful launch A successful landing last night high. Yeah the sixty satellites that are going to join that starlink enterprise They made it up in the air on the falcon nine rocket. The bad news is the first stage. Booster you know the one that comes back down and leave. The lands at the caper. It missed the. Of course. I love you. Ship and went into the water s two. They lost one of those and they don't know why they're on a streak to not losing boosters were which is so amazing middle of the ocean lands on the platform so it must have been rough last night. Maybe but i mean i've seen it land when there's like seven foot sees it still lands there. I and things incredible i. I think it just missed the ship. I think it was more of a calculation. Mistake is what it may be too. I'm sure ilan's working on it as we speak. I am sure and it's a big week to because you were talking about this yesterday. Thursday is the day that perseverance lands on mars. It's been Hovering now it's three fifty five in the afternoon. Our time is when it lands and you can follow perseverance on twitter. In a he'll give you or will what do you call it it. It will hill. She i don't know oh. I don't think you can't assign a gender to anything these days. i don't know anyway. The ship will send you a tweet. S to what it's doing so you can keep up to date. Yeah i might get fired because of that. I got to be careful So we'll keep an eye on this whole tornado warning News partner at channel. Five caccia hollas all into this thing so we you know it's it. Looks like a severe line of storms projected for actually rolling through like right over vero beach now if you if you took that point and you drew it just south the lake. That's the line they're talking about. So it's western palm beach county moving north if you went northeast. Line the whole county. However is under a tornado warnings. So if it gets and don't be like a a youtube superstar and go outside and try to film this. Like people doing hurricanes. I wanna watch. Don't don't tornadoes are a total different species. They they have no rhyme nor reason in rip things to shreds so be careful to saint in the meantime. They can't fully have their on their mardi gras this year for the second year in a row they have already gras. I give them credit because literally new orleans is shut down. They have closed off bourbon street to not only pedestrian traffic. But hickey traffic. They've closed all the bars in the french. Quarter and all the liquor stores. Nothing's open yeah. There's nothing happens. It's it's like you know tumbleweeds going down. So they decided they're going to make colorful lawn decorations throughout new orleans. God love him for trying. You know what okay. We should support this. I gotta keep the party spirit going good good for them and they call it yardley. I think it's brilliant actually already grown. But i mean just think just think of the hundreds of millions of dollars. New orleans is loosened second year in a row to completely shut down at this time last year when they had. I wanna say they cancel the big parade. They might have had a couple of little ones think. That's what it was but this year. They just they just shut the whole city down which is sad unlike these poor people. Jeez that's too bad so go put a colorful sign in your yard and tomorrow's wednesday. There's a cleaner version of you. Want to go to universal. That's going on right now. That's true to to show anything to get me beads there. Well well now you telling me. Oh oh it's flashing people left and right jen more headlights coming up next. We're going to see what else we know information. Wise about this It's a tornado warning for palm beach. We're gonna have that for you coming up next as much information as we go. And i remember buffalo bill from silence of the lamps. Yeah get a special offer for ya boy i. This is right up my alley. Oh yeah this is you all over it. I gotta go more. It's next florida morning. Show this janna bill. Keep it here. Jan more on that Parents got that covered up handle up for. She's been in touch with the weather. Folks happening i have yes Sir the national weather service issued this warning about fifteen minutes ago. We were i to tell you about it and This tornado activity was spotted near south bay so they issued warnings for broward. Call your hendry and palm beach counties till seven but it it looks like on the radar that things have calmed down a little bit which is really good news. That's good yeah. Pops up out of nowhere. I noticed are right now by south bay and miccosukee. So if you're familiar with that area you know right over the middle of the state. So i just wanted to also let you know that the rest of the country like two out of three americans are waking up to a storm alert to you're not alone and windmills frozen texas you know in germany there without power because of the snow's on their their Solar panels greenhut our. Yeah so how. Do the windows freeze. And the snow covers your solar panels. You are screwed. You're basically and and in parts of texas. They've had the weather so cold pike's or freezing and people don't know how to deal with it. I mean never dealt with it before going to be a lot. A lot of water damage in the form of pipes cancel the keystone pipeline. The climate change. I'm sorry it's no longer existential threat. I'm sorry that mark. Well remember this. Gary member who told us about this darlie is the wind blowing today. I'd like to watch television darling. As what trump follow was. I'm sorry it's not with us tonight. Year speech from about probably two years ago. Now talking about this very thing isn't an amazing. And then lo and behold look Parts of texas They had rolling blackouts in many parts of texas. It's like you know ten degrees outside to twenty below and all of a sudden you have no power. What if you don't have fireplace. Boy i tell you to. He's realized this. They have had the worst of everything. Talk about tornadoes so the outskirts of this storm karen. The carolinas actually did have tornadoes touchdown yesterday. Further on south from that in that swath of storm they've had snow they've had is they've had really bad wind and we all know about the temperatures being far below zero. They have ended. All it's terrific and the problem is the cold is sitting areas. That usually don't get colds. Yeah like this cold louisiana. One of the last time you heard louisiana was going to have a high of five degrees getting credible. Here's the bad part about it. Not only the wind turbine shutting down. louisiana just shut down three oil refineries as right. You know what that means jinking teaching at the gas pump so the i have no idea how long they're going to be closed for. But when you have to shut down the oil refineries because the weather so-called you've got a problem and this is one of those deals where you see that happen. But based on speculation gas prices go up like today and get your at the pump. You're like wait. I'm it shouldn't be happening yet. These three oil refineries there in port. Arthur texas and there's another one in baytown texas and baton rouge. They produce a million barrels of oil a day. It's nasty and they're all shutdown nasty nasty stuff so unfortunately plus you feel for him to. I mean this is. You've had a lot of guinea pig. Urgency crews can't even get to people to find out what kind of human damage there is. But you're gonna hear about that soon. Which is just an awful shame so this is one of those storms. It affects so many people in such bad way. You can't make fun of him right now. We're like the tip in florida just like completely totally fine and the and we're about the only ones because even in the north west they're getting hit. Yeah it's right. Did you see how they get the snow off the seattle space needle yesterday They have to climb up there You special barrels and then take it down in an elevator because the wait could make it fall over so they have to clear the snow off of the space needle. Oh will they could. Just send antifa punks up there and tell them that they can destroy it and then before they do not off the snow and then pulled him down. That's unbelievable amazing that they take down an elevator. I'm like oh. My god amazing. The damage snow and ice can do. It's it really is. If you've never experienced it horrific well in new york speaking of terrific. How about this we. It's been documented weaver dino democrat lawmakers system on his staff saying that we caused this we caused the deaths in new york nursing homes but killer. Cuomo not his fault. It's the staff at the nursing. Homes that brought in cova not the policy covid did not get into the nursing homes by people coming from hospitals covert got into the nursing homes by staff walking into the nursing home. It i've found with okay. This in this is just a pure observation on my part when he lies he doesn't raise his voice. He gets sing song. Yeah and he gets a kindergarten teacher. Does i'm like he's lying. There is that but all you gotta do now is just look at the material proof of what happened with the policy when here is even worse. Who's just as culpable the media up. There he has this press conference not pushed back once on that shifting the blame and they fell for it. They felt for the propaganda. They follow up questions. Were about guilty. Staff members hospitals nursing home administrators. Where are they in this. A nut. No-one holding this carpet. This he sits in my eyes he is guilty. As the day is long say true definition of sociopath he will take responsibility for nothing and has no remorse for anything he does. He's horrible the good news is well t to pieces really cnn. Some of these dreams have picked this up now so these kind of losing. That's the last thing he wanted was. Then ruben making more people aware of this issue in the new york state democrats up there are turning on him is huge which is really unheard of. I never thought that. But when you find out you know the problem is it affects so many people. Yes they're saying up to fifteen thousand. Elderly patients died or nursing home. Patients died because of his look stupidity of taking patients leaving the hospital and putting them in nursing homes so it it's the there's a direct correlation followed the damn science here but that one you know your grandmother dies but that affects how many people sure you know. They got seventeen grandkids. So they're seventeen families that are affected or five families that are affected. So i would think out of these fifteen thousand people that possibly died because of his ignorance. You're affecting probably forty five thousand families. That's a lot of people. One question came up about the his own lawmakers trying to take his emergency powers away till they can investigate. And get to the bottom of this right. His answer was that's criminal that's criminal. You could face charges for trying to take the power away. That's why amy. How scary is that. Though i it is. It's it's it's it's horrific. The man is just horrific. He needs to go and he needs to face some kind of penalty for what he did. I'm sorry well maybe instead of buffalo bill. It'll be buffalo. Andy andy new silence of the lambs movie. It rubs lotion on its skin. Does this whenever. It's toll rubs lotion on its skin. I know more buffalo bill too early silence of the lambs. Apparently the home was on the market for awhile and they finally sold it. It's imperial apple is pennsylvania. The new owner is turned it into a bed and breakfast. Of course okay. You could spend the night. Where clarice starling finally caught buffalo bill no idea if the well still there i know the basement the well i mean i. I don't know what would have to be right. Do they give you a basket. Aleutian when you check in is only a hospitality gift. The fava beans do enjoy with the key on the doctor. Wow i'm sorry. I it's it's i bet you. They got pictures of those malts everywhere to that. Oh i'll stay here. I haven't seen that movie in a while. it was on. it was on the other day. Is that show on yet. clery show i. It might have been this week is it was on. I knew it was going to be a thursday. Pretty sure is the third in. It might be this week. Because i know in february i have to go look and who is playing claris but whoever the home of the homeowner is perfect timing right and it's back in the news. It's it's it's interesting. I don't know that house gave me the creeps and it's more him than anything else. So of diener karen. I rubber nickels together. We put together a bed and breakfast day for you up there. You wouldn't go now too bad because here it is. Here's your certificate. Thanks very much. It though scary. It's it is just the whole ambience of the whole thing. And then they have much anthony hopkins be like the greeter you check in gotta look like right. Aries at the kitchen table. Perfect are we're going to update you. get some weather news. Cairns got that coming up news actually and then we'll follow up by the tornado warning. That's about to expire for palm beach county but is get the latest on that all and we've got something coming up we do know there's a new dating term fao cheating note and they told him what it was yesterday and they laughed and it was a good old jolly time. Here's my definition. It's probably when you tell your perspective dates something and the next day tell him something else. That's probably fouling coaching pfau. Chief figure it out. It's next gen bill. Keep it here rather thirty day. Free trial of li- by live plus. And you'll get unlimited skips commercial free music and all of the podcasts and live streaming events you can handle visit live x live dot com slash. Podcast one to learn more and start your free trial.

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Experiencing Pain In This Body Part At Night? See Your Acupuncturist IMMEDIATELY

Acupuncture is my Life

19:22 min | 4 months ago

Experiencing Pain In This Body Part At Night? See Your Acupuncturist IMMEDIATELY

"Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of acupunctures now. Today's topic of discussion didn't come from anyone particular. It's just as a result of Recent cases that. I've been seen and a few of my colleagues especially one of my colleagues in south america. We were in discussion yesterday. With regard to many patients were coming in and discussing experiencing pain in a particular body part especially of nights. So i felt i'll take a break from requests and his podcast to sort of elaborate one. If you feeling pain in this particular body part at night it's best you see your acupuncturist right away and also you can t you. Doctors well This type of pain. I mean i know we all experience you know so muscles here. There elbow pain here and there. you know. Lower back pain but if pain anywhere in the body keeps coming back. It should worry you to see an acupuncturist or your doctor or better yet. Both an acupuncturist and a doctor. But if you notice one particular body part that hurts you at night. It's shorter that you should nickel and believe it or not and this is knee pain. I'm not speaking of knee. Pain may experience at night after a four day of running around on your feet so much and you know whether it's job related exercise training different people. Whatever you know. I'm speaking of knee pain. That basically comes just about every night when you're relaxed. You're lying in your bed and you're not putting any stress on your knees whose knee pain can come a gopher anyone but if you find it recurring at night see acupuncturist because it can be the result of a much larger issue and it's often do arthritis more so i st oh authorizes because people have normal. Healthy knees don't phase for current painted. That's the different and you have to keep that in mind. You know sometimes we may overdo it during the day and you know visually going home or whatever active when we sit down. Let's say for about an hour early evening and we stand up. We feel some stiffness of the knees. Little soreness okay But what happens here if you go to bed you down and your knees killing you. That can very much sign of osteoarthritis. Act which is basically a condition caused by wearing tear cartilage which is basically to the protective tissue of your bone to your joints life and it can include symptoms such as swelling feeling of warmth more showing joint areas. And also if you you're hearing like cracking sound when you move your need these sides these are showing and the reason why you know speaking with a colleague from south america last night when we close the clinic here in new york city lice. Was you know. I had a few patients more than normal. Come in over this past week. Complaining of knee pain while they were lying in bed off their feet and they couldn't understanding it and sometimes they couldn't sleep wake him up in the middle of the night. And so forth and so on and I just made my own diagnosis and began treating slice now. They felt immediate relief. But you know sometimes after your first treatment the pain may come back and i always inform patients that can happen. But if you stay consistent for a few sessions you know a lot of times it goes away permanently and sometimes it takes longer to come back. Pain grows further further apart and Several reasons as to why it can eventually come back but a lot were surprised because some have even acid doctors why that's happening and couldn't get clear answer but then they went back and were assessed examined assess for osteoarthritis wallah some wishing to specialists for that to be determined wisely and were surprised. He would acupunctures my life. You know we received plenty. Thanks for not isolating our specialty. Not isolating what we do to say that you know life happens. We fix everything because we don't do. I say this over and over whether it's over podcast or youtube and even to patients walk in my office you know eastern and western medicine combined. Forget about it. Many people enjoy the relationship. You know sometimes. You just need acupuncture to butcher therapies cupping therapy and so forth and in there were times which best to see dr annual acupunctures because you know allopathic medicine has its benefits dislike. Acupuncture has its benefit. And you have to understand that. This is wally again. I say follow us on every social media platform under acupunctures. My life with the exception of twitter which is accurate underscores my life systems. Follow us only to watch the videos and learn more about acupuncture go to acupunctures my life dot com. Subscribe to the weekly newsletter. Twice a week you'll receive emails with tons of information on how you can benefit from acupuncture. We offer so much information at no cost. And if you want to engage in private chat sessions to simply go to google play store and download the acupunctures. My life app to do that and into gain access as a result of downloading to free telehealth services. We do telehealth services to people all over the world. All over africa. Europe australia china japan different areas in the middle east south america canada. All over my slice it's beneficial in so many ways to follow acupunctures in my life and tons of people from different parts of the planet have relatives that flying into new york city and come into the acupunctures my life clinics. But there's so much to learn because you see the faces of individuals who did not realize that this painting they're experiencing every night when they're not even on their feet every night the knees killing him when you're lying down obstructive sleep as well. They did not have a clue that abe could have potentially been due to osteoarthritis choice. Now that's not the only reason but they. They didn't have a clue that that was a case. Osteoarthritis is is. You is the more common form of arthritis. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't come with serious. Complications is osteo your knee osteoarthritis. Remember it more likely to occur during the night. And as i said it will disrupt your sleep which reduces your level of productivity to following day. You don't want your patterns to be disrupted because that can lead to a myriad of other issues folks a whole line of other issues that you'll definitely be seen in acupuncturist for so if you feel yourself experiencing knee pain at night when you're off your feet lying down or in an automated reclined or some type of coins thing to you so i need to go see an acupuncture risk. Why need to contact acupunctures. My life is a matter of fact. I'll help you close your eyes if you're sitting down you're not really moving around too much even lying down. Close your eyes shadia show acupunctures then open your eyes and think about whatever else you and the fact that you have contact acupunctures i to discuss it but you don't want your sleep. Patterns disrupted and you know asti knee. Osteoarthritis can also cause waking because triggers a desire to want to just sit down and the human organism is designed to be active as last night. The exception of when you're asleep so if you're you're experiencing knee pain especially at night see an acupuncturist because this can progress into a stage for severe case can require bone realignment surgery or total knee replacement. You don't want that you don't want that slice folks. This is why. I say over and over acupunctures life is here. Feel you have no excuse. I didn't know acupuncture can treat this show. I can benefit from acupuncture relative to whatever you have no you have no excuse because they were few that that'll come in because they may have seen the logo somewhere into. Hey i always thought about trying acupuncture. And he'll come in and You know i myself along with other practitioners here would acupunctures. We'll ask the question. Well what brought you into. Oh i just thought. I'd try acupuncture but then suffered from marietta disorders for so many years. And when they find out they could have benefited from acupuncture relative to those disorders a long time ago. A lot get upshot so this is why we do. We do this. Why you know we're we're listen to on up to seven different continents so so many people in learning the many ways in which themselves or a loved one can benefit from acupuncture. And they're reaching out to acupunctures with no regret not to this day. We we have not heard from one patient one individual safe. I wish i'd never contacted you. Acupunctures horrible luke's she. Following us is extremely important. Because you get to a point where you need bowling realignment surgery total knee replacement. And you've made the decision to go. That route you know slice could look and i say this because we've seen and still see post surgery. Knee surgery pace knee replacement patients on a regular basis. What would he leave. Coming into sears. For knee pain pain in his rounding areas of the knee replacement. So think about think about because you see osteoarthritis becomes more of an issue can become more issue for individuals after they turned forty five. It can even occur at a young age as well you know and how can it occurring someone. At a young age. You'd ask would be due to wait. It can be hereditary females tend to experience this lot athletes from repetitive stress. Injuries metabolic disorders. You know there's a myriad of reasons as to why someone at a young age can experience still at rightous. They can also be other reasons as to why you need would hurt at night. you know. Approaching can experience the united for slice which is caused by inflammation of your your dependence of you. Need just acupuncture treat that as well so many ways in which an individual can benefit from acupuncture. There's no excuse as to why you're not in touch or your colleagues loved ones. Well live not in touch with acupunctures slice because you know you you more likely to notice knee pain at night for two weeks. It is stated. One is asti arthritis or patella tendonitis. Because they tend to hurt more when you're at rest so those are clear signs of a problem and if few you leave this untreated. It's going to get worse. This is why you should contact your acupuncture sir acupunctures my life take a second and think about if i more ways than you can imagine so keep in mind if you feeling knee pain when you're at rest had night think osteoarthritis of the knees denied is get on with your acupuncture mmediately if you don't have one but there isn't one near you contact acupunctures my life immediately and we'll take it from there but other than that acupuncture in my life what choice.

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August 2020 - Galaxies and Legends

The Pocket Astronomer

31:07 min | 1 year ago

August 2020 - Galaxies and Legends

"The the puck astronomer with mark thompson episode two galaxies and legions in tonight's episode will hunting down the constellations ursa major cassiopeia and pegasus will be exploring the milky way and locating dominic galaxy and mows using nothing more than just so. Get ready to join me. On a journey into the night sky the following episode is ideal for listeners in the uk northern europe northern usa and canada during august twenty twenty You're listening to the puckett astronomer your audio guide to the stars on knocked thompson. I'm addicted to stargazing after listening to this podcast. A really hope. You'll be to each episode. All will be through a series of observations that anyone can make any where needed telescope over. Knock us just your eyes and sense of adventure. tonight's we're be exploring the constellations as'major cassiopeia and pegasus studying the milky way and locating andromeda galaxy and mows august july eastern month of long daylight hours. If you're listening during the first week of august then you'll need hacksaw at around midnight local time if you're listening right in the middle of the month and eight eleven pm near the end of august. You can head outside around ten pm. Local time to constellation named ursa major is often used to refer to the plan. But there's a difference. Estimator is the official name for the constellation. That represents a great bear. Part of that constellation is the asteroid sim a well known pattern of stars known as the plan called many things from the big dipper to the saucepan. But it's not an official constellation instead represents the hind until of the great ban. Estimator is one of the oldest and easiest constellations to recognized in the sky and even get mentioned in the bible in greek mythology. Zeus was married to harra but he fell in love with callisto. Zeus and callisto. Had a baby boy. Between them code orcas herro was angry and turned callisto into a bag and wondering the earth as a bear for fifteen years. She came face to face with her son are cast. He didn't recognize his mother and raised. A spear to her. You saw this. From olympus and to brent are cast killing his mother he turned cast into the car. Solution birdies and callisto into as a major another very easy constellation to recognize is cassiopeia from the uk appears constellation which is circumpolar which means it never says and is above the horizon at all times even during the day. June the nighttime cassiopeia can easily be found in the northern part of the sky looking like a great celestial w. o. m. depending on the time of year there are many stories about cassiopeia but in most she was the wife of the ethiopian king. Cfius in one story. She said to insulted the sea nymphs by telling them that she was more beautiful. The nips appeal to poseidon. He sent a while to terrorism but under gardens from the oracles chain their only daughter andromeda to a sacrifice and it was saved by perseus and during their wedding soon followed. A fight broke out. Perseus used the head of medusa as a weapon cassiopeia and safest courtoom it uses gays and turn to stone whereupon they were placed in the sky by pegasus. Is the final constellation. We're going to look at tonight's and it represents a winged hostess bring up from the foam of the sea. When the blood of medusa dripped into the ocean pegasus is a large constellation. That's easily found by hunting down. The great square of pegasus as its name suggests is a great celestial square. We can use pegasus to help us find the drug galaxy and objects two point five million light years away which means the light that will enter your this evening would have been traveling for two and a half million years. That's right once again you'll be looking back in time. Also hunt down nose planet so from referred to as red planet and actually does look red or sometimes. We'll pink to the i finally. We'll take a wonder on the milky way. The combined light from the billions of stars in our very own galaxy of all is in the night sky gazing upon the life from the milky way which has been prominent in so many cultures actually still gives me goosebumps as i think about all the billions of people that have looked at it. Just like we will tonight. A bonus events. Look for this month. Is the person media shower. Every year around the twelfth of august earth pauses through the orbit of comic swift tuttle and in kansas a stream of debris left behind by the college but like a car driving through a swarm of flies as each particle of debris fall through. The atmosphere causes the gas surrounding it to glow. And we see it as a shooting. Star if the particle is destroyed high up in the atmosphere than they known as mitchell's but if they land we call them. Meteoroid is the best time to spot mitchelson. The past each hour isn't the hours after midnight when we'll be on the forward facing side of the earth but it is possible to see them at any time of night and as we approached the middle of the month the number of mitchell's you might see will peak if we're very lucky. We could get up to one hundred per hour during the peak in the early hours of the thirteenth of august. Now we know we're looking for. Let's get ready to head outside for those of you. Staying tucked up in bed. Check out our facebook page at the pocket astro for some suggested images to enjoy alongside the audio more before. You hate say outside here. I four important things to remember. Make sure you wrap up warm. Make sure your garden is free from any trip hazards. If you start to feel cold or disorientated. Don't be afraid to take a break. You can pause andrea wayne. This guide at any point when you're ready we'll begin. Glad you could make it now. Let's get ready to do some stargazing but first we need to get our his acclimatize to the night sky going. You know the drill. I may show you've turned out any lights in the guard and all the house with others are still there. It might be conduct. Just close the curtains. If you've got any don't worry if you need to do that now just hip o's and our white view good. I find yourself a comfortable spalte. I'll i'll just stand stogies but you might find easiest to sit down or even long on the grass but just check for objects jake's before you lie down press pulls and when you're ready i'll be here comfortable. Good man came to twenty while she let your eyes get used to the dark. This gives the irish of your time to fully open or dilate. It actually takes a good forty minutes yours to become fully dark adapted. So you'll notice you can see more as we wander among the stars together. five four three two and one. Then you shouldn't. I be starting to see the sky a little bit more clearly. Best find our starting point. And just like last month will use vega in warwick because it's currently really easy to find. Just look straight up and find a brighter star which is almost overhead. Thus fager in laura great now already to make i observation The constellation of our semi jer. We too need to do a bit of star hoping to get from vega to us a major listeners. From episode one will be familiar with the fist with his a quick reminder. Simply extend your arm towards vega and clenched fist. Imagine a line from vega dropping straight down to the horizon and measure to fist wits up from the horizon along that line just to watch that point is a bright red star. Could choose but we're not stopping here. Measure three fish wits to the right of chips and about two fits up. You should now come across. What looks like a giant saucepan with bent handle. This is the play a well known pattern of stalls in the major press pause and take a few moments to practice. You start hoping when you're ready. We'll start exploring the plan ready. Look for the three broad stalls that make up the handle of the play if you prefer the tail of the great bag phantom from left to right there alcaide miser and off and they meet at the best backside a faintest star called magris all four stars look pretty similar but i want to focus your attention on the second star from the left moyser closely and he might be able to see a second. Staw fainted and miser very close. Take a moment to find it pressing pools if you need to This vein star is for alcorn. Miser are famous because to the naked eye they look like just two stars but each star is a binary star of its own crusher inspection reveals that miser is actually a quadruple star system and without cause binary system all six dollars or engaged in a great celestial walls. Okay now we found my'son an alcohol. Let's move on if you're having trouble finding them simply rewind and listen to my instructions again. Take all the time you need. I'll be waiting for you. Ready for marzano. Move to fist. Wits to the rights case down a little to find you buy another star of similar brightness. Do bay is the star of the top rights of the bowl of the dipper and below it and a little bit left by half a fist with is merrick together. These two stars on known as the pointer stause on the grave. Help me find the direction. North take a line from merrick. The bottom star up. Cg bay and on in the same direction for three fish twits they will find a fainter star. Polaris the north pole star. Take a few moments to find you. Bay and palabras then we can continue if you standing at the north pole then. Polaris would be directly overhead. If you're at the equator then would be on the horizon and at mid-latitudes like the uk. Polaris will be somewhere in between saint is used to measure how high police was above the horizon so that they could determine their latitude and wherever you are in the northern hemisphere palace will always lied to north. Thus helping you find your way press pause. I take a few moments us. Polaris to work out. The directions east south and west to do bagan the top star of the front of the bowl when i don't to use it to find some of the other styles in a major to fish with to the lower right of gb is a star a little fainted. Employers called macron s. majorities is. Common name is musa. Which rather appropriately means muzzle as it marks. The nose of the great bear just over one fist with below. And to the left of me shida you will find a moderately bright pair stalls close to each other. These two stalls look close but in reality. They're quite distance. The top star talifeh is forty seven light years away but the lowest our telephone australis is just over seven times further away at three hundred and sixty eight years together. They represent the front poor of the bear. Great thus the constellation ursa major. And it's well known as tourism the ply. Take some time to make sure you're happy with these observations and when you're ready we'll move onto cassiopeia if you podcast player supports them. You can use the chapter markers to quickly move between sections The constellation of cassiopeia glance to the right of ursa major and about four fist wits. To the right you'll find a yellow star. Which is the sixth brightest star in the night sky capella in riga from their look upwards and a little to the right by four fist with to fund a giant celestial w on his side. Congratulations you've just found. Cassiopeia they're five prominent stars marking the w shape this post to represent a queen sat in a throne. But i can't see that would always just see it. As w the top star in cassiopeia is calf. it looks quite unremarkable. But it's a star that's fifty four light years away and pulse eight ten times a day. Meaning there's a tiny change in the amount of energy that it mitch. Making what's known as a variable star was the change in brightness is undetectable by the naked eye variable stars re useful to astronomers take a few moments to enjoy calf. And when you're ready we'll move on. Calf is actually the second brightest star in cassiopeia lesson. I find the rest of them. Half ish with by ridley below calf is the brightest star in cassiopeia called shatter is name comes from the arabic word sandra meaning breast and it lies at a position that marks the heart of queen cassiopeia mccaffrey at the color of shadow. Compare it to the other bras around it. What color do you think it is. that's right. Shoulder is actually an orange star was the majority of other bright stars around it are white white with a hint of blue meaning that much much hotter hoffa faced with to the left if gamma cassiopeia central star of the constellation and the third brightest below. It is roof bar or delta casio pie. A white saw that is around three thousand degrees hotter than the sun. Finishing off the main shape of cassiopeia is seguin. A blue white supergiant star a super. John is a style that can be thousands of times bigger than the sun. Sagging is hotter than roof bar by about nine thousand degrees making it. Around twelve thousand degrees hotter than the sun competitor of second this chetta the yellowstone. We just looked at and you should be able to see the color difference if you need a little bit more time. Simply press pause or rewind to listened again cassiopeia is among a special group of constellation that from certain like the uk always appear above the horizon. We call this special group. Circum polar constellations which means that will always circle the poll and never set below the horizon. Take a few moments to really familiarize yourself with cassiopeia as you will always be able to find it in the night sky and can use it to find other constellations The constellation of pegasus. Now to find pegasus. We'll start shadow on the brightest star in cassiopeia and the one that was slightly yellow in color. Once you found cheddar move. Three fish twits to the rights to find a fainter. Orange colored star. This is she at the second brightest star of pegasus. The winged horse pegasus is an easy constellation to find because just like us a major. He's got a famous as tourism in this case. A great big square which we call author maginitude the square of pegasus happen. You find pegasus. We'll move on to find. The rest of the square of pegasus is very useful to know that he shaw of the square is just over fist with wide. Starting from shan't had slightly to the lower left to alpha rats. The brought starring pegasus to the lowell. Might of rats is alginate and then to its upper. Right is mark cab. See if you can find the four corners of the square. Don't if you get stuck simply rewind and listen to these instructions again The rest of the stars of pegasus extend off to the right of the square with the stars to the lower right from the neck and those to the upright the front legs pegasus. The flying horse is actually upside ban. Let's turn our attention back to alpha ranch the left star as you look at the square tonight and the price star in pegasus. It's unusual among the stars because it's in the constellation pegasus but it's also in the constellation andromeda the to constellations a connected by the star and the names are inspired by the greek mythology. Where pegasus how to rescue the chained andromeda from the sea monster setus alvarez is a great start to remember because you can use that to find the andromeda galaxy. Pause as much as you like rewind if you need some help the The galaxy of on joe madda time to find the andromeda galaxy relocate alpha ranch. The brightest star in pegasus hoffa fished with to the lower left is delta andromeda. You cannot then for it because it looks red in color. A further half fist with to the left is a brighter. Red star called mira which lies at a distance of about two hundred light years but it shines almost two thousand times more deadly than the sun now located mirek we can hunt down the andromeda galaxy ready three finger wits at arm's length above miraculous is new and dominy above that by another three finger. Which is the location of the andromeda galaxy. You're looking for faint fuzzy patch of lights if the moon above the horizon then you'll struggle to see it or if you have a bit too much light pollution in your area if you're struggling to find it you might like to try a covid. Technique called averted vision. Try looking slightly away from the position. We've just found and you might find a fuzzy blob pops up in the corner of your this technique using more sensitive parts of your eye to pick up the faint lot from the galaxy. Take some time to practice finding the andromeda galaxy and getting used to looking at it the the andromeda galaxy is the most distant object. You will ever be able to look just. Your is as we learned earlier is two point. Five million light years away. That means you're seeing the galaxy as it was two point five million years ago. You are literally looking back in time. We used us to explain distances in astronomy because miles and kilometers adjust to small. We would end up with massive with way too many zeroes to deal with. For instance. one. Lachey is the same as the distance. That light can travel in one year. Which is nine point. Five trillion coloma's the antoinette galaxy is actually quite similar to our own milky way galaxy that both spa will galaxies with stars planets gas clouds and customers of their own. We've just seen a distant galaxy but we can see the large from our own galaxy to. Are you ready to explore the milky way The milky we just to the upper left andromeda galaxy is the familiar w shape of cassiopeia pack. Four fish twits to the lower left of cassiopeia is the bright yellow star capella in riga. We saw this last month. If you remember as you look a cappella in this direction the milky way pops up over the north eastern horizon then extends up through cassiopeia and continues along that line across the sky through sickness which zone almost overhead aquilla and then down through sagittarius in the southwest. Take a few minutes to see if you can find our galaxy. The milky way is false. Brights in the south west because we're looking towards the center of our galaxy as she as on the milky way look for dark patches these giant dark dust clouds blocking the view of the stars behind them. Press pause and take the time you need to have a wonder along the milky way safe you can spot any of the dark patches or maybe some brought to regions you can pause and rewind if you want to hear the instructions again weldon. Now let's move on to mas The planet mars. Let's finish off with a last observation of tonight mas. You've probably already seen it tonight. Without realizing it. I followed the square of pegasus again is over in east now thus the opposite direction to where the sunsets look below the square by two fist wits. Quite lowdown you looking for the brightest star like object in that part of the sky when she found it. Is it red if so then congratulations. You've just found mawes press pause. Could begin your malls gazing or rewind if you want to hear the instructions again So this is mars ninety five million kilometers away but the striking thing about it as you can see is it's color. Mas looks red because it's covered in a material called on oxide. You already familiar with this. Leave a metal object at side and the oxygen in the atmosphere reacts with the in the metal to produce on oxide or you may know it. Rust the surface of mars is literally covered in a dusty rusty powdery material. And it's not unusual for the winds of miles to whip up this dust into a sandstorm that blocks the surface features from view. Take a few moments to enjoy or rewind if you need some help just before you head inside and while facing ause look over your right shoulder. Can you see a really bright star about the same height. That's no star is the planet jupiter. And that's lonnie faintest ought to. The left is satin amazing. You've just spotted three planets. Now i don't know about you but i'm ready to head inside for some hot chocolate. Take easy as the bright lights indoors may seem a bit overwhelming to start with long. Well done with just yours. You fend three constellations a galaxy three planets. Not bad for an evening stargazing my favorite part about tonight's observations was definitely wondering along the milky way for me. This is the real jewel in the crown of the night sky for naked. Goya's join me so many stars crash j just waiting to be discovered before we go this time to answer a few questions to ask about the tiny mansions inside craters on the moon and she also asks what's my favorite luna marking and why well my favorite lunar feature is the crater tiger which is eight hundred six kilometers across at is easily seen with the naked. I love about it. You can enjoy it without any equipment but if you do have been accused of telescopes then you can see more and more detail and it does look incredible through a telescope. It's also got one of those mountains that kind of elsa bench creatures foam and a piece of looks max into the surface of the moon and the folks of the impact compresses can even melt the surface book. It will only take so much compression before the molten look bounces back off the crates walls to form a central peak. Jerry asks my daughter is face matt. Should i get oculus or telescope. Well that's a great question. Jerry and tricky one. Many people do recommend benach years before telescopes which i would agree with battles but not for kids. I think they'll be more inspired and engaged if have their very own telescope and he starts to tell us it will do but a great choice would be less on. I cope which sells from to sixty pounds. In fact we run a competition to win one to enter simply goto facebook page at the pocket astro and replying the competition. Post with an answer to this question. How many times do i say the would galaxy in this month. Show if you've got any questions you want to ask me just email me at mark. The pocket astronomy dot com. And i might read yours. The show equally unloved to receive any pictures of your own observations. The best ones. I'll share on our facebook page. At the pocket. Astro next episode will be exploring the curve stalls hunting down the center of our galaxy. And i'll be changing yours eyes to see if you can spot eunice. Thanks for joining me on my audio guide to the stars. I can't wait to see you again next month on knocked thompson goodbye. The pocket astronomer was a wide at the chicken production. It was and presented by mark thompson with help from the rain kelly. The producers were unfamiliar and dan page. If you enjoyed the show please do. Nice things for us. Subscribe racist nice jeans and ted a friend.

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#380: Prof. Barry Popkin  The Nutrition Transition & Using Policy Actions to Create Healthier Diets

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#380: Prof. Barry Popkin The Nutrition Transition & Using Policy Actions to Create Healthier Diets

"Blue you are very welcome to signal radio episode league podcast and as always on toast them very welcome back or go into the podcast. Is i find listening. We have a real treat for you today. This is a discussion that. I'm not only delighted to be able to bring to you but was one that was really a true honor for me to have given the esteem that today's guest is held in in the area of nutrition and obesity research. My guest today is professor. Barry popkin. who is the w. Arken junior distinguished professor of nutrition at the university of north carolina at chapel hill and at unc he's also the director of the interdisciplinary center for obesity and professor. Pumpkin developed the concept of the nutrition. Transition going back to his work from the nineties. And if you've listened to previous episodes of this podcast particularly when we talk about public health or nutritional epidemiology you probably would have heard some reference to that most notably on one of our recent episodes where to nutritional epidemiology specifically. You probably with heard. Alan go into some detail about the concept of the nutrition transition so professor pumpkin was the person who developed the idea and has done extensive research on that so so this idea essentially being that study of these dynamic shifts in dietary intake and physical activity patterns and trends related to city. That have happened. Over certain periods of time and professor pumpkin pumpkin is involved now in in work on both program and policy design at a national level to try to improve the average diet at a population wide level and continues to be prolific in his research. So this point. He has published around five hundred and fifty appear review journal articles and is one of the most cited nutrition researchers in the world with more than ninety thousand citations at the point of this particular recording so like i said a esteemed obesity and nutrition researcher and has published work. That has been highly influential in some of the concepts that we have discussed previously on this podcast. A real honor to be able to talk to professor popkin. I will link to a of relevant research papers that professor pumpkin has published related to today's conversation and tying in some other areas more broadly so linked to a select. Few of those. That would be a great place to start and they will be in the show notes this episode so that will be sigma nutrition dot com slash three eight zero so signatures dot com slash episode. Three eight zero. You can get links to those papers. More professors pumpkins background. You to get links to transcripts of our previous podcast episodes as well and whilst her on the website have a look around at some of our written content and other resources there so that is it for now. I hope you enjoy this conversation. I had with professor. Barry popkin first of all. Welcome to the podcast professor. Pumpkin adds very much a pleasure to have you. Thank you bye pleasure. i think. Probably the best place star and i. I don't think i could have started anywhere else apart. From the opening up of the discussion around the concept of the nutrition transition. Which i think is something that obviously you were at the forefront of and a lot of your writing and work has led me to get more interested in seeing not only how that has played out over the years but we'll have implications for the future. Maybe people listening who are unfamiliar with the concept. What is the way you attend to introduce that to people and explain that concept. Well the simplest way to do this is the think about the way we eat. Drink and move in. How it's changed from the paleolithic kind to the present and how different places in the world have gone through the stages of eating drinking and moving berry differently from the initial stages where everybody was doing berry. Energy intense for the diet was truly very and biology of all we. At that point we had to find a way we needed to drink water every day. If you don't think water for two or three days after that you'll die but on the other hand what we eat could be done less frequently. Anybody in the uk could for example nadi for a month and survive. But if you don't drink wire for several days you'll die. So we developed a disconnect between how we eat and how we drink and trump's the biology very early on at the same time we had a sweet person we needed to have fruits berries and other sweet foods for nutrients and we developed the bitter preference not to eat the bitter food which tended to be the poisonous items that you would find and so you can think of that and you can also think of the fact preference the fact that if you found in animal you've found a fish you you wanted to eat things that were fatty because they provided much more energy and healthier fat stores then. We moved into a stage where we started to cultivate. We started to move into having agriculture and became more sedentary slightly. We lived in cities and we and arms around them and we created that life. We moved forward as you can imagine into ultimately industrial face in high ingram countries but the low and middle income condition many other regions even some of our people high then ultimately we started finding ways to truly reduce energy expenditures with mechanization with in the home mechanization factories transportation changes. All of this really went to reduce significantly howie mu and then the sugar beverage revolution so you can kind of sense and then energy drinks and many other things and you can sense how the change in our life at the same time. Think of what happened in the home. We got washing machines. Refrigerators we stopped having to go in. Hollywood and we got cole and then ultimately got electrification and gas. They came in and through all. The phases are energy expenditures. Change so you can consider all the phases of that and how we became much more sedentary now we have some the west manufacturing activity. Those who go walking for exercise will go to the gyms who'll by khandu all these things have generated similarly how he has graphically change in the west on the nineteen seventy onwards and so we created this modern revolution. That you thank god with fast food away from home eating but it became ready ready to heat very convenient and hired full of lots of chemicals in things that make it. Very palatable and other countries in africa were touched at all or they were touching the cities with a very small so population. And you do the same same. In asia and latin americans different countries different subsets of the country moved at different points. So the shifts have cut our energy expenditure but in changed our diet so in the uk in ura depending on the country anywhere from twenty to seventy percent of what people eat is really this junk food and beverages items hyon saw added salt high and added a sodium in particular high and added saturated fats high and added sugar and very often with berry refined carbohydrates soaks the diet wrath typically change. That didn't mean people can keep eating the 'tatoes but now they became french fries or poem freeze and they became full loves of saturated fat. Some case okay healthy ones that most often not so all of these shifts changed us would became fatter. Particularly the seventies later way led the way getting fatter earlier but where australians jerry cans russians middle easterners all caught up today you know. They're a good hunk of the countries of western europe eastern europe north africa. The middle east south africa suvs a country south africa a latin america. I'll have obesity and overweight levels over fifty sixty percent so this is the transition in. it's still going on. Countries in the third world started later but now the food industry has shifted attention of both global food sector and companies that were created to match same technologies internal decian these country app and pushing and the same foods that led the way in our countries and changed our diets to so much of what we call the processed food that includes not only all these junk food and beverages but fast food and so many other things like sausages and other things that are also hyper palatable many ways so if now exploded in asia. Africa and latin america fame consumption Shifted the as the big growth sector and The rest of africa. So you're saying don't have a single country's world today with less than twenty percent overweight obesity. We're really changing. And it's not for the good right now. The food factor is ruling. The game and public health policy vary just fighting to try to catch. Catch some wind and and move in there yet so much within the love to tease apart and i think obviously with something like this. There are many forces at play and we can maybe address some of those various different ones. You've already alluded to economic factors. Lifestyle factors socio economics and so on but it seems that the the cornerstone of a lot of this an an something that you've referenced quite law is that we're in this strange situation where the control of our food supply by essentially corporations and conglomerates is almost so total in that they have the this decision making ability over what people are likely to eat. And i think this is then manifesting. Now when you're talking about this transition that we see in That we've gone through but other countries now the moment are how much of that is a basically control of corporate. It's it's it's a really surprisingly critical element. Let me take for example snacking. It's a behavior. Actually if you went to the nineteenth century nobody and by the twenty up until really eight. Nineteen twenty thirty really. Have snacking as we call. It wasn't even discussion point. You can't document in the eighteen hundred. Any snacking what you can documents are are street foods for special occasions and people might buy them bradley. A third traveling or other things but snacking hosts world war chew as part of this huge marketing campaign and part of the nature of the kind of ready to eat and venus foods has changed the uk might have consumed key maybe seldom with little a biscuit or something but rarely now today In our countries the high income countries were snacking two to six times a day and the snacks have become often the size of meals and there was none. It was invented in fact when you hear read. The food industry one of their pushes to get everybody in the world to be snacking. They've created a whole new meal which for a subset of people snacking continuously. Now as the case and what this means is a hugger. Mechanisms are being thrown off our whole way of eating and controlling. it has been thrown up all these extra meals. So we're just eating very austin. Yeah and i think one of the main implications that kind of became clear. The more i looked into your work is that sometimes. It's easy for people to -ssume that well. If there's these changes in our preferences for different foods what people buy it simply supply and demand and people are choosing to eat this way but really. That's maybe a very reductionist way to view it that those choices are being manipulated in some way people aren't aware of. Can you speak to that. The people who have been exploring very few countries are really addressing but the whole marketing of food across the life cycle and across different subpopulations has become so sophisticated. And it really began in the seventies or shane in a big way. sugary beverages. You still see it for beers and many other things. But increasingly for many categories of foods and marketing of snacking was one of those elements And they're creating more and more the food products that are ready to eat ready to heat so that it's very convenient and people are don't wanna coke and work more than they can they you know for whatever reason These has become very important to them and so cooking has gone down. We across the world we. Did you studies in the sixties and seventies and all the countries where these were done at that point. People were spending two hours who preparation in the us today. Twenty seven minutes day. I bet it's not so different than the average brit and others a little bit of buying food. But now of course i will change in. Who just be taking it online for a subset of population but all that aside it truly was a piece of this huge set of changes so the marketing food has become so sophisticated special games for children sneaking things through tv and other things and then in a country like chile were. We had a very total ban. Child marketing they just shifted. The shows two children where children watch adult shows. So the children's exposure when way down With child ban any food if they put a red warning label on that was high in the unhealthy foods and was the ultra process worse to the ultra processed foods so they just shifted so then we have to put a total ban in marketing from six am to ten pm with big messages on any marketing of these unhealthy foods after but that's one countries experience and it will be repeated. The uk is going to be soon assuming marketing trolls. It's not clear if it will just focus on children and seems to be the case. If so the same thing will happen there. The happened to chile where just finding into three as very uses marking very sophisticated ways. What comes at you is so individualized now or if if you're using a smartphone you're using the computer or any other modern technology sunday on suspect it'll come through our keeping individualized as well given the information. They're collecting and the sophistication. Were getting a modern technologies. But no matter. What is the marketing as bennett. Critical piece of of changing us. But it's not the only piece the creation of ways to make everything they want to sell us on the present vending machines and school walls. Every place you move little getting into every kind of shop that you can think of. It's a very sophisticated set of techniques for disturbing and making us see the food billboards wherever we look. Turn on your television or anything or just look in your smartphone and you go into something like a game. They'll place the products in front of you. Kids gains full of their products. Kids tv as full of it. Except by the helvin stations like nickelodeon that ban it but most children katie stations. Don't the marketing and the control of our what we eat has become more and more as countries around the world increased their wasting from home consumption so huge seven what africa and asia are eating. Today they have also found ways to get into that sector and control. So i think what you're saying is that can tip of the iceberg. If we're truly understand all the ways that they market in control the people would be shocked if we could measure how much they were exposed to. This and how impactful is on them. Because they in that. You very sophisticated. Yeah this is that anyone is really making completely free. Will decisions over. How they eat is absurd once you start right back. The food industry wants thank tough. It's our demand free will and then they've pushed for that they pushed for the fact that everybody's free to pick what they want but we're not free we bend and we will continue to be dictated by them and tell we control their marketing and tell wade label all their unhealthy foods with a warning label. Things like we found really impactful. While your traffic lights has shown any much impact on reformulation and none on purchasing changes. We've seen huge changes with this warning labels just like with cigarettes that chile now a whole bunch of other countries israel mexico brazil peru uruguay all are adopting and countries in asia and africa and africa are proposing it right now. I mean obviously a lot of your work has been involved with populations in china and you've published a law that which is being incredibly informative and i think one of the big things that becomes obvious looking at the nutrition transition there. Is that the essentially the playbook that some of the the corporations are using is one. They've already used elsewhere. And so that would give further evidence set. They know what they're doing and they know it's successful because they can just roll out in near is even more insidious china they found ways to get the government involved. They've found ways to you key. Parts of the government the be in central committee and others. Maybe have a share in their company need They bought off key. Groups are involved in advising the government with money they. They're the playbook has been better. Played in china than any of our comfort and government. Policy has been around their mantra. We have ballroom dancing in minimal. Fiscal electric beans is black. Deputy we have nothing dealing with creating healthier food supplies in any way and we won't it very difficult because of the controls of food industry who keep people in china. I'm very keen to talk about some implications for policy but maybe just before getting that with this typical nutrition transition that takes place and no matter what country we're looking at. There are health impacts on overall population health. But there's also therefore knock on effects on other things like the economy can you maybe just give a brief overview of why this nutrition transition is so problematic are those impacts on say population wide health. And then knock on influences say economically. What we've learned is that first of all with obesity. You don't die. You get billeted disabled. But he don't die unlike cancer so but cost for obesity star with what we call present. He has which is being in a job but being less productive and we've seen and studies and factories and in service sectors twenty five percent reductions productivity sometimes up to thirty thirty five depending on the job from being overweight and obese so that obesity truly affects our productivity and waste we understand secondly but with but does since studies that have looked at it second lanes were more likely to get sick. More likely get disabled more likely to retire early. More likely. the happy go into retirement homes because we're not able to have the saints movement ability and songs so that transition has affected us economically in profound ways. A proportion of the gym p Is very from country to country. But it's huge in the west. It's truly impacting us. Ways that we ignore too often That's why most big global company have are trying to do something improve this the status of their workers. You won't find it with governments as much as you'll find it within these companies. Because they see the costs they see their health insurance bills going way up. All the attention be paid on by. We are not gonna get the bulk of the population to run for. Mild offset a coke. We're not gonna get them offset all the junk they highly up the processed foods they consume by exercise a subset. Will you'll have a five percent or eight percent of your populate nets truly healthy as healthy lifestyle in every way we do a bulk of our population so given that and given that there needs to be a change in the average diet within these populations it seems clear that there's some policies that could be effective here and this is where much of your work comes in of looking what's effective and i'm sure later we'll maybe discuss some of the barriers to that from the standpoint. Maybe we can take some of those typical types of policies and maybe look and just to give people an idea of what actual evidence do. We have here so maybe the first place to start one. That tends to be contentious because on top russian and there are different forms of that type of policy but in terms of purely evidence that we have in this area. What would you say the view right now of what we know about policies are based on taxation and how they have have worked. What type of effectiveness. They may have played. We've had kinds of policy. We've had cats ation on volume. Just the number of grams of sugar and tax seen yet. But i'm volume only so they just put on you know a ten percent or twenty percent or up to fifty percent like in the gulf countries on the volume on either the the price of attack of the item or on her outs a mile or per milliliter mouth. Then there are taxes that were cheered. Like in your country with three or four tiers and forgetting me formulation. They probably worked someone better. Then we have a that had a tear. Luff axiom the grams of sugar like south africa. They're refined the largest reduction in sugar and purchase it of all the taxes. We've seen so far so some combination of and we know that taxing the grams of sugar. Anything like that is the most impactful for health or revenue. Taxing on price or taxing on volume is the beth though we've learned both of these and so some countries that are really interested in revenue now will tax fat way. Some that are doing it more for the health side wealth tax on the grams of sugar. Or your case like putting in three tiers and an having the tax that way the best evidence we have is of the grams of sugar. I'm l. but also in purchase it with significant revenue but not as much as a big tax need different way because it reformulation gets pushed further forward with a tear and even further forward with a tax on grams of sugar so we have evidence that they have impacts on people's purchasing decisions and therefore they're actually. I also have two different worlds. We know with very sophisticated studies at. They're moving in low income countries not to die beverages but rallied water. We don't know yet for higham countries in a major sophisticated analysis alva subbed. Hopefully we'll see some food purchasing studies come out of your gidel l. a. staff of the haven't really done that. Con- sophisticated analysis yet and again really collect data to do a white in depth that were able to do where we and you'll collect difference in nutrient composition in fame beverages and link it with daily food purchases so that we can see what's happening. Though we know about taxation as the poor more likely to be fat more likely be untreated. Diabetes untreated hek retention. Untreated cancer and. They're benefited the most by attacks. They are reduction is greater than what they're doing. So from a health point of view of aggressive. And that's very important understand. Ross the world. A poor are least treated a most unhealthy. And that's a very big issue. Not completed the case in some parts of africa and south asia but the case in east and southeast asia the case and others that but it's changing everywhere in the world. Soon within a decade poor will be the fattest in the lease tells tennessee at every country in the world right now if only the high and the the earlier that developed countries yet that disparity based on socio economics is so and so profound guess with something like taxation sometimes. This kind of counter argument is given that. Oh it it's not gonna work. It's going to make people pay more money that they don't have but as you've outlined it seems that in those groups you actually get the greatest degree of change perhaps in those dietary changes and the also the group that would benefit the most And it kind of reminded me of something. I discussed with professor martin cower her on the podcast before where he made the point. That people in those low socio economic groups actually make really rational food choices to despite what people may think and they're making it based on cost effectiveness shelf-life and so on so they're being really rational with what they do so it would make sense then that yet paul would actually work in order to to to make these official changes and and going back to that common. Historically poor always made the decision so if you went back to the nineteen sixties in my country showed one paper. Lena journal medicine that then the rich were all getting the heart disease and were fat. Por were not in my country. They're eating a lot of being fruits and vegetables. And rick were having their butter and their high fat meats and other things and it reversed over time as the food supply created cheap fluke. She highly processed food foodline foods they moved to those and the rich with more education and learning about this as some extent moved to the healthier foods now completely of course but a sense but and you see a shift in this whole curve unhealthiness going from the rich to the poor in the relative among were all not good one of the aspects of did want to ask about. Actually that that you had mentioned but we didn't get into was as opposed to taxation while these other potential policy areas. We could look at and that has been looked quite a bit as reformulation and there does seem to be some potential differences in how people view that in terms of its as the root forward are not. What is your general sense. Based on the evidence of the usefulness of something like reformulation depending on the problem reformulation can be good problematic around the fiscal policies. It's all been about and it's been about movie either. For water like finding some countries which are truly healthy or in the west trying to put in diet beverages and put in a non nutritive sweeteners and those were not sure if now new sweeteners have any of the kind of negative effects that we see from mouse studies and other things at all because mites are much more sensitive to sugar and we are and the human studies. A very of one set control for die in fact look have unhealthy. People unhealthy dieters and the fact of i- beverages. They are bad they look bad. But if you look at the healthy eaters with die beverages they use them in a healthy way may reduce their wrists of all the different cardio metabolic issues. So the literature. If wurley. there's a lot of people that ignore. This died affect most studies do but when it comes to human studies. What we're doing now and we done in mexico and doing number of other countries. We put a message box on the front of the package. Along that says contains non-neutrals contains these items so and the same. Were doing caffeine. Because we don't want children consuming beverages with caffeine. So we're learning and that's one way to deal with that now let's move to sodium. Sodium is a very powerful off issue needed some extent but were overeating across at low. A great extent the salt from a sodium. Salt tool potassium sulk. You get a healthier salt. you do some of that sodium you get rid of it completely and processed packaged foods because they know all the ways itself has helped him and they could change it but if you get more protection it reduces risks of many of the diseases related with sodium and both it's in and of itself both because it lowers changes sodium potassium racia-. So what we know is reformulation around. Sodium can be helpful and we'd love to see it from a whole globe a certain extent making sure everybody has some sodium by cutting out that excess Similar way When we go to fat it's very mixed Some saturated fats healthy and many are not In the low middle income world were saying much more homework and the which is from the red palm oil trees and other which is very unhealthy. It's the most saturated fat out there in the most and yeltsin And we would like to get rid of that The problem is we don't know why we can't quite ban that product and we do it through high saturated fat. We haven't figured her do. And but we know that a warning label that warns against these high excessive loops will shift people toward healthier food and it will push reformulation so chilly. Cut the amount of sodium even sausages. Nothing but no difference. In purchasing they just purchased a healthier one but So we can do it. We actually can do some kind of healthy reform relations and we can have some. that are problematic. We don't know all the final effect. All the random control trials done on diet. Tweeden have not shown in adverse effect that is banned for some of the longitudinal studies that are poorly amela and i took several of them by south in the harvard group That had published the year before casal harbored showing an adverse effect died swing the interacted and different ways. To look at die shifting the died affect out and they found no effect. The died sweden's on all the end product. I took one in a huge political control longitudinal study and took out the healthy versus unhealthy diets and looked at the effect of the diet sweetener on them and for the healthy eaters it was a huge positive benefit of shifting them in for the unhealthy. It just went along in hand. Went along with the died affects. So if you do these studies right. You'd find a very different result that doesn't get the question. Children and the effect sweeteners preference. We don't know that we don't understand that. So back the case where i would always have a warning message on saying for children. They to not part of the message they have in mexico and the recording other countries regulations are being in being now going through their political processes on there. So we've discussed some of those aspects around taxation some then around reformulation and in many ways we can even think of areas where we could incentivize the food industry to make differences. You've touched on food. Labelling as a potential option maybe the final thing before we wrap up here is in other forms of regulation of the food industry. Probably one of the big ones. Based on what we've discussed it would be food marketing. And to what extent that regulation there would be possible and effective so based on what we currently know in terms of marketing by the food industry. Or how one would go about regulation of that. Are there any clear policies that we've seen examples of that have had positive benefit. Let me start with shelly. But i want to start with they. They didn't nutrient profiling the identified. The foods high in added sugar added sodium as saturday century. Too fast enough. Hiatt any of those. Then i got rid of transept it. In two words and if high in any of those high densities were. And that's percentage of kelly with that they used it to give a warning label that were high didn't three phases last face now. They created that they could use that. The van the products from schools. They couldn't be market soul bended anything consumed in the school. They used to ban marketing of those products in all media and they had something with the definitive with a clear label on it that the industry had to show they monitor implementation to have to have it on their package and they have to show the had so that truly led to norm changes children coming we did focus groups. That shocked us. After the first year we did some focus groups on low income lower middle income household with mothers of young children and the children have been coming home to the mothers and telling them not to buy these products with global on. You know they've learned about the from school and fell. It was like the beginning of a norm change in the group. You want to change eating preference young chill and krief young children in school preschoolers. Has it happened all the schools and that and then they could ban the marketing of those but they had a clear. Nutritional cutoff forward. Very easily monitored implement and they could implemented and ma in vermont mead if that industry view the differences as i noted earlier. The industry shifted so the canal putting a total marketing ban six. Am to ten. Pm was big message on other times. Other countries are putting in six. Am eleven twelve pm which is better but either way going from early morning to late evening truly has had an impact and were still evaluating that were still monitoring the marketing part and looking how attitude knowledge an all wave. And we're having come out with face three. We only have the phase one studies but that showed such a profound change in children's exposure to the media and kind of children attitudes also someone changing and then we go to the school impact preschool school age and It's quite profound and so we were now. Starting covert has the latest some of our evaluation stuff for the final phase. But we have the food purchasing out to win when we got to the end of the third phase and while starting will be evaluating over the next several years but the first phase the reductions in chile was number one country per capita and consuming as we did this. We started ever mexico our tax level. So we talked twenty three percent reduction in. Ssd gorgeous higher for the poor in just the first year of this warning label no tax but the warning labels. It's not saying we should tab. We should in fact we should have everything. The chili didn't tax. Those same crowds was warning that the ideal policy a world bank has promoted. This re mutually reinforcing set of policy so if the uk adopted the warning label then they can use that as they're still trying to figure out how implement their ban on i'm food this would give them away ban all that food with warning labels the uk would put on and that marketing ban is the best we've seen 'specially the colder one now otherwise all refine as a few hours of trouble. Be it a couple country. Bunch of countries and with no real impact as we have all be voluntary agreements. all over the globe. They have shown in every case. Not even madder industry did very little. They said they would. So the regulation stop and that's kind of Where we stand today so. That's the best marketing ban. I hope the calvin wounded at least will adopt the warning label. And i hope that they can use it for the marketing ban will really help push this forward. We have several other countries that are pushing this right now so it you may not be the first next one to da but the point is that's shown us with real world impact. What can happen with the marketing and how you can use it in health in school help around and one of the really important things that you mentioned there noting that it's not like when we're talking these different types of policies. It's one or the other in fact. Probably the best impact like you said is we can see where all the evidences for many of these different types of policies using them in combination is likely to have the the greatest progression forward. If each of those individual policies is a good policy then stacking them is likely to make a bigger benefit. So is there any final message you to leave people with or anywhere on the internet. You'd like to direct their attention to follow up more on your work. Anything like that. Well obviously they confine me with him to a second. What i recommend more than any saying is that everybody here in all the doctors and practitioner or mode eating real food reducing as much of this highly processed food and beverages in diet of their themselves sending their clients and patients. That is really what we need to do for the world to move away. This epidemic of obese of all the nutrition of basically all the major heart disease issue and thirteen of the fifteen canton's the major risk factors of a saint obesity and diet issues so We truly need to shift our diet. We need to recommend are now. We have a cost issue. What we have to recommend. Is the government. Find ways to subsidize to the poor gives them give them some kind of food stamp or something that says use it for healthier food use. It fruits vegetables lagoons other kinds of products. That are really. We know to be the healthiest whole grains in and not. Use it for the other foods trying to shift have. It is one thing but when people can't afford it which is certainly true for third of the world is not more. We need that berlin an a great way to finish this conversation. I wanna say thank you again for. Give me so much of your time. It's very generous. It's really has been an honor able to talk to you about your work and thank you for so much. You've you've done. The course was significant period of time. That was our conversation with professor. Barry popkin i hope you enjoyed it and took something useful from and is giving you an insight into this area of research and may be sparked something to either go and look into this more detail or to hold these ideas in your head for future conversations on this topic so as i said at the outset the shots are going to be a sigma nutrition dot com slash episode. Three eight zero and wall street over on the website. Take a look around the stuff we have their including are written sigma statements on a host of different topics where he takes something complex or controversial in the area of nutrition science and give an overview of our position the supporting research for that and some sensible evidence based conclusions to come to that. Hopefully really improve your knowledge on some of these areas. So that's in the sigma statements tab and you can also look at other resources. We have on the website. If you did like this episode then please feel free to share it with someone. You think my like it with that. I want to say. Thank you for listening to this episode for those who are regular listeners. Thank you so much. For continuing to support the podcast. It's very very much appreciated. And i i know. I say that but i feel i don't even say enough. I really do appreciate your support. So thank you for listening in. Thank you for people. Who message about the podcast. 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Experts Warn Lag In Global Vaccinations Could Lead To Dangerous Variants

NPR's World Story of the Day

04:19 min | 2 months ago

Experts Warn Lag In Global Vaccinations Could Lead To Dangerous Variants

"You know it sometimes feels as if someone gave an all clear signal for the pandemic. Many americans are emerging from isolation and resuming at least some of their old routines though. We're just getting started on vaccinating kids and nobody under twelve as a shot. The cdc says fifty percent of adults eighteen and over are vaccinated now but for much of the rest of the world. That picture could hardly be more different. Health experts are warning. The consequences of that could be severe for people in those countries and also for the united states. npr's narita eisenman reports. Amanda glassman is executive vice president of the washington think tank center for global development. She says when it comes to covid she. Seeing a worrying trend the leaders of the countries that are making a lot of progress on vaccination seem to be really underestimating the anger frustration and fear that the rest of the world is feeling. Europe is the only region that comes close to use vaccination levels with nearly one in five adults. They're fully protected in the middle east south america and east asia. Only about one in ten adults have gotten all their doses in south asia the share drops to less than five percent and in sub saharan africa. Listen one percent are fully vaccinated. The us in a few other wealthy countries bought up so much of the early vaccine supply other nations. Were all but boxed out now for the us. This is the single most important foreign policy security and otherwise issue for the next year and a half at least until we get this vaccination job done a key reason variants mutations that allow the coronavirus to spread way. Faster have killed. Hundreds of thousands of people in brazil variants appear to be a major driver of the surge. That's state india. last week. Daily deaths there reached the highest level of over the entirety of the pandemic and plasma says similar catastrophes could soon hit other countries. Nepal obviously stands out over the last month cases in the paul have skyrocketed same with sri lanka. I'm also really worried about indonesia. Bangladesh an enormous population. There's even been small. But sudden upswings in taiwan and vietnam which took aggressive precautions at the start of the pandemic and until recently had almost completely insulated themselves from covid. Tom fredin is a former director of the us centers for disease control and prevention. Who now leads resolved to save lives. A nonprofit aimed at stopping epidemics freidan says the spice in taiwan and vietnam in particular suggests that even in the most disciplined countries. There's only so long you can hold your breath in terms of restricting activities. Keeping people from congregating the temptation is to let down your guard and what the variants are doing is. they're making that much riskier. Governments have much less time to react freidan says whereas it used to take about three to four weeks for an initial rise in cases to turn into explosive spread. now it's more like a week or two variants. Basically give us a shorter fuse and that's especially worrying for africa. Where many nations like the resources to detect new cases before it would be too late. The good news is that so far most of vaccines against covid particularly pfizer. Madeira appeared offer protection against the variants. But that could change the more uncontrolled spread. There is anywhere in the world. The more risk there is that variant. That's even worse could emerge and so he says. Us officials need to share more vaccines with other countries. Not out of charity. But as one of the most urgent steps they can take to protect americans if there's explosive uncontrolled spread anywhere says freidan. It's a risk to every place in the world read eisenman. Npr news this message comes from npr sponsor. Ford a large chandelier dangles directly above a stationary all electric mustang mach e. It's held aloft by an intricate pulley system attached to the rear of the vehicle. Visit ford dot com for gravity defying display of torque.

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What The Spread Of Coronavirus Variants Means For The U.S.

Short Wave

16:30 min | 6 months ago

What The Spread Of Coronavirus Variants Means For The U.S.

"You're listening to shortwave from npr. Here with mike lean do cliff. Welcome mike lean your first. Ever time on shortwave. Thank you thank you for having me absolutely okay. So you're here to talk to us about corona virus variance. Those are different versions of the corona virus that are spreading quickly throughout the world. Yes they are different versions of the virus. Some are spreading quickly around the world. Some thank goodness are spreading a little less quickly but the key is that these variants are concerning because they seem to behave differently than the older versions of the coronavirus there was a variant that was first detected in south africa. There's another more recently identified variant. That came out of brazil and monday. The first known case of that variant was announced in the us found in minnesota but the variant we know most about and are going to focus on mostly today is a variant that first appeared in the uk back in september by mid december the new variant had overtaken other forms of the virus. The surgeon cases particularly in london on the southeast has left. Nhl emergency stuff at battle stations. According to medical leaders with health workers exhausted and struggling to cope. The british government is responding by locking down much of the country then the variant started popping up all over europe. Dozens of countries have banned. uk. Travelers from entering. It's been detected in asia. Australia the middle east south america and here in the states the highly contagious uk variant now confirmed in nineteen states and in the beginning it wasn't completely clear whether the variant i identified in the uk was more contagious than let's say the original corona virus strain that's been driving the pandemic so far. Yeah there are lots of reasons. Why a new version of a virus might spread more easily than others but in the past month or so study started confirming. Yes this version of the current. Oh virus is more contagious than previous versions in that means wherever it appears communities need to act quickly to stop it so today in the show the uk coronavirus virus variant is here in the us. We'll talk about how big of a deal it is and what needs to happen. In order to try and contain it i mattie safai in this shortwave the daily science podcast from npr. This message comes from npr sponsor. Bank of america. You finally decided to learn how to ice skate. So you ordered the essentials. Every ice skater needs a pair of blades. And you helmet and a good set of e pads and you used your bank of america. Cash rewards credit card choosing to earn three percent cashback online shopping rewards that you put towards the cost of an essential piece of post skating recovery. A heating pad visit back merica dot com slash more rewarding to apply now copyright twenty twenty bank of america corporation. This message comes from. Npr sponsor ibm a smarter. Hybrid cloud approach with ibm helps telcos rollout innovations with watson. Ai without losing speed the world is going hybrid with ibm visit ibm dot com slash hybrid cloud. Okay sue before we get started. We want to say that we are learning more and more about these variants by the hour. This episode was taped on tuesday january. Twenty six so things will change. Yes definitely okay mic elaine. Let's start by taking a step back to talk about what a variant actually is. Variance are basically different versions virus. Like the corona virus and those versions papa because of mutations which are basically changes in the virus that can happen when the virus makes copies of itself for sure viruses mutate all the time. That's what they do. Most of the time. The mutations are actually harmful to the virus so they just disappear but these new variants that have popped up which are really concerning. Have an unusually large number of mutations. Like twenty or so many of these mutations were already known to have an effect on the virus in some way and more than that mattie some of the same mutations are popping up in multiple variants on different continents which means that versions of the virus in different places have independently changed in really similar way. They share some of those mutations. Yeah in that's pretty concerning because it's like the virus has figured out independently on at least three occasions. An advantage like how to spread more easily or possibly evade the body's immune system take this uk variant. There's evidence that the variant creates more virus inside a person's nose or respiratory track that means when the person sneezes coughs or even just talks they expelled more virus into the air and so this virus spreads more easily. Because there's more of it out there there's also evidence at this variant more tightly or more easily to human cells so you need less virus to become infected. Yeah i mean. Let's talk about that a little bit more. Some studies have shown that the uk variant is about fifty percent more transmissible than the main version of the coronavirus. We've been dealing with so far so michael. Let's break down what that actually means. Okay so this is a little complicated. But i know your audience loves data numbers so stick with me here. Yes we have been known to be number friendly michaeli data data curious if you will okay when a community has an outbreak under control. To an extent on average one person passes the virus to one person or fewer that keeps the outbreak under control. What you see in the us in many places is that number can jump a little bit. Like one person passes it to one point three. And then you see really fast. Exponential growth and the outbreak is hard to slow down so it creates enormous effect. On how the virus spreads now with this variant from the uk that number can jump even higher to like one point eight right right and going from one point three people to one point eight might not sound like a big jump but okay see. We've got ten six people after about five weeks of being sick. That's the difference between those people getting ninety one people sick or two hundred and twenty two people but the important thing is the difference between those groups doesn't stay constant increases over time it gets bigger and bigger you very quickly infecting many many many more people than would have beforehand. That's mahad croff. She's an epidemiologist. At the university of baron in switzerland she says the variant out of the uk doesn't seem to be a lot more deadly but being more contagious or more transmissible can actually be worse. She says than being more deadly. Perhaps counter intuitively some people. I think that transmit stability is probably the worst case scenario or the worst of these two scenarios because something is more transmissible than you just get it into a larger population so even if this variant isn't more deadly meaning it doesn't cause more severe symptoms overall. It could result in more deaths because more people get it exactly so you know one of the most worrying things about this variant from the uk is that it continued to spread and really spread quite rapidly in england even after the government implemented tougher restrictions. And then that same thing happened again over in ireland once variant got a foothold there. It took off like a rocket and this past month. Ireland recorded. Its most cases. Ever i mean. That's so scary. Clean well i mean it is a little scary and you know now that it is here in the us. I think everyone needs to be more vigilant to be more careful about wearing masks in keeping six feet from others. When we're in the grocery line you know really anything that you can do to decrease the amount of time that you share with other people especially inside because no matter what. These measures are the best tools we have to stopping the corona virus in general including these variants. So we really don't need to change what we're doing we just need to do. More of these things. for instance. You know trying to buy or find a better mass that fits more properly got it. Got it okay. So we've got the potential for a lot of spread. another thing. people were worried about is whether any of these variants have changed enough to evade a person's immune system basically if they got the old version of the coronavirus could they get it again with this new variant or could they get the coronavirus variant after getting a vaccine well as far as being reinfected after getting cove in nineteen once. We know that people can get reinfected with the old variants. It seems to be rare right but it definitely happens so the big question now is will the new variance make that easier and by how much now as far as the vaccine goes with this variant circulating in the uk so far scientists think the vaccine will still be affected. The efficacy might go down a small amount. But it's still gonna work right. But there is some preliminary data that the variant that came out of south africa and the variant that came out of brazil can invades some of the antibodies that react neutralize the virus and that may impact how effective the vaccines will be against those variants. Yes but remember matty. All the data comes from the laboratory and we don't know yet how the laboratory results will translate to real life plus on top of that all. That data looked at how. Antibodies stop viruses. The immune system has a few other tricks up. Its sleeve to protect us from viruses. That looks similar to ones. It seen before and no matter. What remember the vaccines that we have are super super effective so even if we lose a little bit of efficacy they're still going to work and that's why scientists and public health officials keep telling me over and over again that the best way we can prepare for these new variants is to get as many people as possible right and you know mike lynn. In general the less people and time these variants have to work with the better. Because we're also trying to reduce the possibility that these variants could continue to change for the worse because that is possible absolutely. I think these variants are showing us the future of sars covy to eventually these new variants or wants it. Look a lot like them could be only variants one of the researchers. I talked to said it's kind of like a cat and mouse game. Between people in the virus in the way we win is to get enough people vaccinated before these variants take off. Yeah i mean that's one thing. I really wanna focus on michael in which is how big of a deal this is and what needs to happen to prevent the strain from becoming dominant in the us because to me. It kind of feels like the us back where we were in march. You know like looking at a very dangerous virus. Exploding all over europe and feeling like we're headed for something similar. The reality is this is a big deal here in the us right now. We're in really bad shape. The number of cases deaths in hospitalization rates are still widespread and staggering everyday. Mattie about three thousand people die about the same amount as nine eleven. that's happening every day in now. Scientists are predicting the epidemic could get worse much worse in the next month. Or so if we don't act now like i said earlier this variant from the. Uk's already here at low levels for now but the cdc has computer models that predict this variant could cause huge surges. if communities don't vaccinate a big proportion of their population before then. So i totally agree with you. Mattie watching this variant wreak havoc in parts of europe feels very familiar. And we're not the only ones emma epidemiologists from earlier. Think so too. I do feel a little bit of a sense of deja vu right now about the situation that we're in kind of back to this spring. I think that we're in a situation where a lot of countries are kind of looking at the uk right now and saying. Oh isn't that too bad that it's happening. They're just like we did with italy in february. That's it in noted that a big difference between now and march is that we have an incredible weapon against the virus. This vaccine but we have to use it now before the variant takes off here in the same way. This is our early warning because by the time you have something spreading exponentially in your country. It is much harder to get it under control in. Emma says that's why these next few months are critical. Okay so what. What does that mean on a federal or state level like. Are there plans you. You mentioned a really aggressive vaccine strategy. What else. Michael lee yes. So mass vaccination is the main focus because what we're trying to prevent is the variant a foothold here in the us some experts. I've talked to have also talked about being ready to implement new restrictions for win the variant begins to take off when doctor said you know if the us is really serious about stopping this variant. We would hand out better. Master people like in ninety five k. And ninety five and we also need to put systems in place to make sure we actually keep tabs on this new version of the coronavirus which means cities in states need to ramp up testing and contact tracing to try and slowdown specifically the spread of this variant and for listeners for individuals that are you know trying to make sense of this. You know what i will say is personally looking at where we are now in some of the data about these variants as a scientist as journalists. This is the most scared. I've been in a long while and at least in my house where we have the privilege to stay home. We have been acting like were in lockdown again. You know hang out with our very small pod firm mental health really only going out for essentials or outdoor exercise. Now i see this as chance to make some sacrifices now in order to avoid even more prolonged fight against this corona virus. Yeah i think we all need to be ready for more lockdowns. Strict lockdowns more restrictions. You know the only way. England slow down. The outbreak they had was to go into full lockdown where people had to follow really really tight restrictions and for me personally it's about not cutting those corners anymore right so look i know. We're all experiencing pandemic fatigue. But now is the time to buckle down. You know where a better mass to the grocery store not let the neighbor into the house anymore. Just keep those greetings outside just really reduced time. You're spending indoors with people other than those that you live with. Right look matting. Nobody knows the future. But i think we just have to mentally prepare for another big wave of cases in public health. Officials are really saying if you have the opportunity to get the vaccine. Take it all right. Mike elaine thank you so much for this reporting. Stay safe out there. Ut mattie thank you. This episode was produced by rebecca ramirez and edited by giselle grayson russia already and ariella zabidi checked. The facts and josh newell was our audio engineer. I mattie safai. Thanks for listening to shortwave from npr.

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#434 Coming Up Short

The Agostinho Zinga Show

1:23:41 hr | 4 months ago

#434 Coming Up Short

"Augustine hosing this show with your host dog use. Gino's took take the tint and welcome back to the casino zinger. Show me yours. Agassi agostino anger and this is episode number. Four free four. I'm gonna say hopefully it for free for fifteen offering four four that i do apologize. No i don't really mistakes happen. You can If i show that youtube make sure when his comment that malaysia has infielder of course lead me. If i start to show shared with your friends and all that malaysian the coolest suppo- via patriots lose more welcome that patriot for just eight g. o. S. t. a. And he you know the deal could links in the bio linson description. Click the knicks at the bottom at more details. Do all that good stuff will in between you know how we crack knew how you how you will do and hope you're well wherever you may be If his on a beach somewhere in the middle of the by could you manage to sneak out. If you're a beach somewhere in the middle of spain could you meant to sneak out off. You happen to be in a fairly well insulated Two bedroom apartment somewhere in the depths of east south and on north or west wherever you are in the world. Hope you're doing well and you're hanging in there because goddamn has been a genuine. It goddamn is been jenny's been a journey and a half and Oddly enough. I think. I noticed it. I think when the notion. I noticed it yesterday. Actually davide window browse on the interest as i do and i'm obviously ups a moi's checking the coronavirus sub reddit the us one which is just standard ekern. Obviously the uk one. But you can't the end and i've no is in the last word monfort. So maybe is. Actually you know statis- becoming more frequent now the last few weeks. I have no real big increase in posts of people saying that. They're really struggling mentally people. Having a hard time having committed to grips with this new reality am coming to grips with this prolonged period of time. Spent indoors blahdy blah blah blah. But it seems people are really feeling the pain right now and it's interesting because we effectively towards the end. We're at the home stretch now right. We've vaccinate war fifteen million people or something crazy in the uk. We've basically done everybody from group one to four. We have only left people above the age of fifty. Which has you know. Most of the at risk people Most of the people are going to be at risk the virus itself so essentially homestretch. We get these really good leaks apo- basel playing about people go to school oldest stuff that should be giving people a sense of optimism and a sense of hope but instead it's actually philip would more dread and it made me think i wonder if this is what happens when people are in prison. Because you don't hear it but usually see depicted law in movies where somebody that's you know. Got a long sentence. Come end of it and they never typically get themselves in some kind of trouble now that could be just seen a A narrative skill that people do when they write in these movies some item captivate automate them. Compelling right have disowned by all of this person doing a good job and then you know towards the end to get corrupted by the system and then something goes bad but it does seem to be a thing people trying to keep their heads down tools. The end up being join into anything. I wonder what the as i wonder. If that's like our version of acting out. But it's just. I don't know what he is really but i wonder if there's any similarities are people in prison. I wonder if that's the same thing. Like i wonder if like mentally pro period of time because that's the thing as well as odd as walkers prisons different because he released right. That's the thing that you get. Elvis is so terrible situation to go for I would imagine have been adding been to one even probably look like i should be one a prop one anyway right. Everyone gets pulled up on the skirmish here and there when you're younger but in terms of actually spending prolonged period of time and a place at the i haven't imagined you know it's not best place to be especially if you had up there through no fault of your own ripe fruit just taking a couple of rotund laughing not think sometimes if you probably you know had a life where you've kind of committed to a life of crime Since you were a kid is probably inevitable that you were going to end up dead or in prison. So is not that much of a culture shock by the president. You just regular civilian. Who's just you know down on your luck and you try little move you try to look beats a little scam hill scammed and it will send you end up in prison. It could be a real like gina. It could be a real blow to your kind of you know how you perceive reality but some of the comfort in it i'd imagine is the fact that you get released eight and if you behave yourself you didn't get early sometimes right And but you have a date in the sand of when you can go and when ups when you be able to be out back to civilization civilizations they can integrate back into society in some way shape or form and become a valuable member of your local community repair relationships in your family blah blah blah blah. But we've had none of their had zero. From the very onset we've had no rule ideas to wendy's and now don't get me wrong. Prison sentence anna an airborne virus a two different things right. This mutating trains are popping up all over the place we they still haven't figured out where it actually originate from says things on what kind of ferring out of the way but i think that lack of data's really effective people more than people actually realize. Yes the fumbling of the situation hasn't been the best ever dealt with a great. That's all we can kind of ride essay on how badly they've done things but i think if they would have had a plan where there was some dates in the sand some actually some timetables or some targets to hit. Not even numbers. I talk in terms of if we get to this incentivize targets. We get to this number. That mean we can open district this date the x. y. and xyz if anything the only thing we've got any dates on web schools which makes sense right children's educations in poland but in terms of the wider society. I think really hurt people. Having a lot more people could have hanged on especially the ones that have kind of self expired department could have had a little more hope of. I dunno again reading tests. More than i probably should do. But which is probably the benefit of having to book right ingredient things. I don't remember but you would hope that maybe people would have people who did self expire. This year lost. Maybe would have held on longer if they knew you know. Hey by june by. May that thing that you enjoy the most you'd be able to do again a just gives you that little glimmer of hope that you can hold onto whereas just you know so. It's no coincidence. I don't think that now we have an actual day in terms. Again of road mapping at twenty second and things are looking up on people have kind of had an adverse reaction to it. Maybe it's because they've been so used to being disappointed they now. The database been announced. Everyone's like oh no. This is a bad sign. I'm not too sure but the steffi something in it but either way. i'm still quite up to mystic. that things will get back to some liberal normality. I think all these leaks coming out should give people a lot more than what they have have done. Deposits seems like. I feel like we've fought to go now especially with the vaccine them to really mess up you'll really g- require iq. I know a couple of You know exponential levels in order to mess this up where we are now. We literally just about to cross the line. We just need a little bit of a push north to get and once we finish out soon arrived late to get back to what it needs to be. That is the hope that is to hope cool. What else that. During the weekend we can the most important thing of course in the weekend watching manchester united play quite possibly one of the worst brands afoot. Would you casino primarily so issue one from home for west brom which on paper. I guess you could say isn't a bad result but considering how we started the season considering that we were top couple of weeks and considering that we were kind of led to believe that we're in some sort title challenge and decide had the credentials needed or the players or personal e in order to mount that. It's disappointing to see where we are. How a fluttering. And how we just can't necessarily keep up pace with what majesty. Doing offended recorded was sixteen. Wins back to back right. Concede hardly any goals looking stronger than ever. They rested ruben. Diaz de everyday and still ended up. You know winning so we just look in context. The result. isn't that bad but considering what else is going on league. Considering the child's we have to actually monetize china especially liverpool off form. Ever really is an opportunity. Missed and the game itself. It was pre paul in terms of quality. I don't think we saw much from either side suggests that there that they are worth their ticket in admission thinking it might be the worst footballing side of the top six out. Say i think if we're not playing counterattacking mobile where pre boring and turgid and passive and lackluster to watch the borgo site aside. We keep possession while the stats are on our favor. But in terms of incisive Paton's in our play in order to open teams. Don't have answers and people can sale is hard to defend against teams to play against team to play leatherman beyond the boob cool. They know we have good players. They don't wanna give space. This is a common thing that we're going to face teams are outside of the quote unquote top six. They're never gonna play to our liking. Why should ed right. They're smaller sides with less resources. And probably not as good as we have definitely the best of what they can if they can and the best thing for them in a possibly to get point or to win the game would be to sit deep. make sure they limit the spaces You know make sure they don't allow us to go wide and put into across his make us play in the middle. Further network narrowly as much as possible to wishes impossible. Could you have to break basic your free lines of defenders and in hope that they can spring an attack on the council nikko whenever they get the chance which they most likely would because defense. We always going to legal goto. And i'll keep his does seem to be in the best form of especially deputy gear so again it wasn't as if like we dominated the game in that sense we might dominate position out godly. Say was probably had the best chances. They probably had the more klay chances chances that they actually you know devised from six but actual good play searching the ball out to the flanks crossing the in The had dig nailed. Yankee was his name playing a front four West brom who caused barry mcguire and vigilant also problems deanne ghana the angie favors at the ngo dianchi or his name. He ended up scoring to go in the first minute. Or i two your free minutes. Basically out-muscled The lindelof in the box and just ended up heading and death may be an example of just where we've kind of faulted the moment. Right the defenses. In that good but again i think it's an easy excuse to play us. Bax we know. I'll setbacks on the best we know we don't have. We know that we signed her. Mcguire to be transformational center back into likes of You know what's his name virgil van dyke. But he's not that player. We grossed over paid for him. He's probably not bed. And james tarkovsky band me That's why level of player out goes forcing his eric dire as a centreback. He's pretty average. He slow For the size that he is he gets manhandled. Two way too often as you saw in the second half towards the end of the game where. He kind of tried to buy a foul on books. By letting yankee basic wrestling to the floor. It should have been a freekick. Don't get me wrong. But still a defender never be position where they're trying to win thousand or books you should be clearing it. All eleven needs have weighed needs. Be so only know. A pre terrible to watch now again analyzing overall i think if we didn't have printed ends on the pitch we probably wouldn't have drawn and if we didn't have defendants and the that we have at the moment. We probably wouldn't have conceded. This game was probably a fabrizo until one one. I don't think either team were really that up front. I think even create better chances. That didn't really have the quality to to really convert them. I'm apart from again digging. He's kind of goal. There was an idiot really threatening us but they did have batch together. I mean it's hard to kind of it and then overrule. I just think our over reliance on bruna fernandez is really telling like apart from the i car. Remember any other instances outside of that chance which he kind of shinde in the top corner out of nowhere and he's left foot volley is kind of go. They don't expect him to school. He does oppose up in clutch moments. He's crazy numbers but again he wasn't that great either. He's really not one of the criticism. Odd harald benefit and even though he's kind of been transformation plan i think he's raise standards in the team. An ox expectation levels in the same way that may be ibrahimovic. Did when he came into changing room the only issue i have with benefit that he doesn't really play like a midfielder. He plays way too far forward for me. Which leaves too many gaps in midfield and defence. If you see here the lineup or go here and a screen right. We play since she like. I four a four two free one right kind of or you could say we play four free free depending on how you look at it. But either way what's happening bruna fernandez basically in line with moscow cavani and rayshard or types of head of those guys. It leaves a massive gap between The the last striker and against the first midfielder backup is really huge if he was playing an actual attack and midfielder quintessential number ten number eight. He would occupy this area a little bit more and they'd may be move up as a unit and come back as a unit but the moment winds up happening is that when we're attacking wind up having all these place forever ford and then we have these. Two defensive is frederick. Tommy who i think pulsa leon good enough to probably play that role. We probably need a as kind of an expert as a dm to play one person in that roasted afterglow employees to still think both of them probably aren't good enough position to kind of be disciplined enough to screen backline and in the background itself especially with the to send. Our backs are not necessarily good enough to play fair of the field because the both pretty slow to get turn very quickly. They easily turned to easily gibbered poss and they get manhandled way to easily especially mcguire thing. If we didn't love his is always you know he's never going to be that kind of competitive physical defender. He probably would be best suited to playing in assistant system with the back free. He's a little bit more bets easily. He's living coaching notable But still they. Because we don't have that confidence in the middle of the pitch. They kind of draw be too deep which leaves to gas for ford which thanking the opposition to chance to exploit those holes in those gaps and in general. You know there's always a mistake and there's always a goal that we're going to see if the back of that and of course you could blame the players by offering low of the has to do with management. I still think even were top of the league. I just don't know mencia oversee do what they do now. I just don't think you can win the premier league with a manager or the coaching staff with the caliber of ghana. Social mega carrick. Carry mckenna darren fletcher in college. It's just not going to happen right. You're competing against the best of the best. You see what chelsea did was talk to show and it just you know as i'm recording this just one two home against new costliness like full betrays on the road now fair enough. He hasn't really faced tough opposition. They still have to win the games. He's winning games. he's finding who's best plays are playing a very great bend of football. He's confirmed in idaho. Senator lane save right wing. Back like brokeback marcus alonzo. Who look like. He's chris. Finished at josie attorney rudy guzman restored. Like he's just kind of you know. Talk coaches do a top coaches. Do and i guess. The players respond to that now could be the new manager bounce. Some people believe some people don't regardless of what you think. I still think at the very very top if we wanna be a title-winning side winning champions league's wittingly trophies competing in domestic cups we have to have a managed as best in class at the moment infrastructure wise as a team best in class. We don't have the infrastructure to support. Are they gonna sasha which you know i would have. I would assume this is my guest or the cup so foul should what coming up two free years. There's been no real indication. I've heard from his side that he wanted to spoil director so the shoe. He probably doesn't want one. Because i think if we a director of football he could come in maybe work alongside ali and the coaching staff to kind of spec out the plan of the club you know overall in a free five four five year period. Lau exactly what we wanna do. Present that to the suppose in terms of our long-term vision where we want to be a club say could kind of congress down a little bit somewhat but the moment we have kind of just being told to believe and to hope that gets better but within also being told that social needs more players ought to get this and i just don't see the correlation between having great players and having a great coach. I don't think you win league titles that way. You might flew the champions league. Roberto matteo proved it. A few have managed even. Avb ever may be done the same thing. It's been a few managers who base gabriel to win trophies but in order to win league titles defend the titles. You need to have top-class manage. You can't be having players that we have at the moment being coached by the coaches staff. We have and be expecting different results. I just don't think it's going to happen. I think the great results were the great results because we have good players and they were able to perform but amendment stopped and we needed other solutions. We need maybe a change. In formation a change in tactics at impersonal. Whatever may be just kind of gas we start again. Alcoa's off of come wanting and you have to really look at infant yourself. Yes of course. There's a room right there at the moment now especially to defend as supposed to be eric by going to a car crash. That's why hasn't been involved. Which is strange because it keeps getting pigs on the scored. So i don't know what's going on if you're in the squad or the bench would imagine you're enough to play right so if he's not interested mental state of play. He shouldn't be innuendo club. I'm all into any innuendo the the match day squad if that's the case so let's say that's not the case there still something to be said for complaints to be had for only gonna social thinking that visit lindelof the defender of arab by and him. That's some of the things that i kind of think. Let them down and less on the coaching stuff. That kind of decision making we just beat yourself like. How does that make any sense. The fact that maguire plays every single game even when he's playing doesn't get rotated somebody else give him a break. Defect rely on route of anderson. Much effect that respite. This seems to be in the numbers. But he's actual performances in games just not you'd expect them to be defer on a bond or to save his life the fact that we both an you know an an aging edison cavani. Who looks like. He's out of his depth sensor purposes. And he's meant to be a strike a women to rely on more so than audience. Guara who i full did. It didn't really get fair. Cracking the whip a united when it came down to pursue confining ten we treat him at the brand new in kind of dismissed of an of garland has it against that you know probably not that far apart what they can offer teams right now. Yes covina baby. Had a bad career in origin gao. But you can't tell me. God offer more than companies offering now at the moment. It's just a complete mismatch squad again. I'm really worried about finishing four. Maybe we've equipment enough points. There's going to be very hard for us to drop out. But considering how much fires been rejuvenate into the considering the fact that marino essentially jobs on the line if he doesn't get top four finish at least fifth considering osma kind of core boever second wind lesser of doom bits. And i really rape brendan rogers. I think he's another very underrated manager. League is not. it's not a foregone conclusion that we could finish. Maybe our side of the top two. Maybe even finished third jimmy. Considering how we started the season that is an abject failure especially don't win a trophy and it just it just doesn't fill me with hope knowing that we're going to have to rely on just on social get embarrassed a coach overrule in the next year. Or so we'd bad players. Just don't see how that happens but again you know. what can you do. United was born one away from home. I guess it's the point bed and nothing. Can we go again. We go again very very soon. What happened on when to took over. How yes. I also happen to watch your c two fifty eight Main event featuring komo news men versus gilbert burns A very very very entertaining fight. I think i mentioned it. Prior to think. I was reading a couple of articles on the interest. The thing i love about. Mma reid of ufc is the fact that you know. Of course dana. Why has the least folks. You know the fact that the fight is okay compensated much as they should do the fact that he kinda rules in a kind of cow boyish way is really beneficial to fight as he has his favorites. That sort of stuff. We can get a little bit dark and you really look into stuff that goes on behind the scenes. Usc but the one for yukon denies that the matchmakers. They're really good job at making sure. Whoever's the best face the best in each division there is no gimmes there is no easy run to titles and champion and to Belts there is no easy way to challenging for those boasted. No easy way to break into top ten to five. You really have to earn your right to be in the autumn some of the best fires in your division. You have to earn it. No way no doubt and amendment you earn it again opportunity and when you get up you have to take your hands and and what you like to see is that you get to see somebody. Gilbert benz smash for respect for on his way to the title. I'm contention and then you get to see kamara news. Man defend his bell again so he defended his bargains. And then you get to see post them. Fighting octagon with that knowledge that you know that they're both elite level where it's which is very very different what you'd expect from boxing because books nova sleep you know. They've got the issue with the promoters and stuff. It makes it hard to kind of put matches to give a lot of people have their records padded. Because it's really the importance of having a kind of undefeated record in books in his probably overstated more so than isn't usc So you you never really shaw. If the person you're you're watching is actually facing the best in class you not really you. Just obviously watching the political humor in western but you and you have to look at your wilder and see how his career's kind of come crumbling down to face somebody halfway decent. I'm constantly get tested. And i think kamara mago tested in the biggest way possible. That first round from gila bend was sensational. Clipped him with a right hand. I think are a minute. Something one twenty or something. The temple komo news must legs tyco up from behind him other nephew. Sorry compose himself somehow managed to get his bearings back in going and in survived our own slow and started the second round very strong and essentially ended up finishing it with a tko toward the middle of the second randomness of just sensational. To watch and again this is somebody who is specifically known as a wrestler restrictions. Grandma known as somebody having kind of a league grand game is now. Come back for the assistance of coach whitman with his like chris. Boxing at that jab the furring gilbert beds was. They'll some meat in that job. May some real real real power knocking his head back so much soda that one jonathan when he switched dance actually ended up flooring which led to Kamar go for the ground and pound and essentially finishing with tko. It was just with the punches on flow lie absolutely sensational performance and and again a proper championship performance. I think you don't become champion without having a bell rang a couple of times. And if in fact that he's legwold underneath him kind of maybe picture that myself being a boever amateur and casual watching if molly shit. He's definitely gonna lose now but championship level fight is don't do that right. They find a way to kind of compose themselves. Governed force get their legs back underneath their shoulders just sensitive so somehow i think you mentioned even a fight in a post action. He mentioned how that kind of woke him up. That can blame. No you're into a fight guilds no joke. He's coming to take your belt. He wants what you have and Just commodities minute up just Getting himself back together again. Just kind of snuffing. What why right. It seemed just snuffing. Give give abandon scandal. Like just just snuffed out in a couple around sensational. Two watchmen would a great performance. Him and again. It goes to show just how great these guys are at this level because give face again. The only heartbreaking bear as or get rid of the in crying and you know a lot of it probably had to do with him maybe realizing that. Oh this guy used to train with this guy that we kinda came up with give. He's just another. Never hawaii remember him from being before and that must be such a frustrating thing to kind of reconcile fire right. You've done everything right right. You slept right. You're trained everything you can to make sure that you at the peak physical and mental conditioning to step into the octagon and make you know an challenge for the title and in the person used to face in you know in training who you think you might have his number and you think you might have a chance of you. Think you know you know it down. Y'all go up. i can beat this guy. i know. I've seen his best in the gym. But then he turns up to. You helped under. Bright lights needs a different beast. He's tun into number one eight fist competitor. And also have marched fight at your member him to be and just like. Can you close that gap. That's a question. Like i've could be proved. Most people couldn't close the gap. He just kept getting better and better and people just couldn't close the gap until you just end up retiring because those not much competition there for him to face and i guess that's probably part of reason why give bands with just overcome with emotion. Just thinking what can i do. How can i ever ever you know. get this guy. When he's right he's improved this much from the time that i knew him like how many ever going to get back at i. Liberty must be such a hard thing to kind of come to grips with in your head issue. Your firearm damn disguise really performed better than i ever imagined he would do but again. Excellent excellent performance. Big up kamara. Lisbon survived an early scare. Finish barger punching. Ufc two fifty eight main event. Absolutely amazing to watch from the outside after Definitely amazing to watch. Well we go here. What else we got here. What else we could hear what else we could say all good news. This is courtesy of this guy on twitter cold John burn mccoo must be someone scientists he was he. He is a story stats and scuttled for financial times. So he already said well looked on his game me down. I looked to look at the israel hospital data. And this is a screen show. He provided here and it says the average age of people seriously. Ill covid initials until this dramatic. Vaccines take effect and as you can see you know. A standard graph played on the screen but tools. The ryan side is a real market. Drop off and that means. He doesn't green line tia which kind of indicate the first vaccine doses and the second and as soon as the seconds guess administered the amount of hospitalizations. I'm assuming here people seriously. Ill four really quickly so it goes to prove that the vaccine does go a long way in preventing people from getting ill and obviously you know Fatally passing away and it also is a great indication as to life returning back to some semblance of normality that this is happening when vaccines get rolled out so again if you're on the fence and you're still feeling down south whatever it may be definitely keep this off in mind because as more accidents come out as we get more data definitely things who end up getting back to more very very soon. Let's move on from net long as opposed to the do what else we go here all. Yeah this is yet so this is the most interesting news day. Think craigslist got here. Let's push this initial because these are loaded screen his beginning me mad. Monthsas isn't it okay. Cool so it's getting back up here so this is kasich from two. This is courtesy of rubber piston. Who's kind of been at the forefront in terms of providing of leaks from the government considered covert. It's been a little bit annoying. They'll give me wrong. You guess especially. I think he got a lot. More negative reaction Earlier on when things were a bit bleak and he tended to be the first person to kinda delivered and dino the bad news and if you're agendas not the moment you're not really that will regarded by the public journal write in the uk and europe impossibly positive people. Just hate your list for the most because they think they're the enemy of the people because they're not necessarily doing that you'd finger john would do instead. They kind of nitpicking. People's language in flipping chat rooms and trying to tell people what how they shouldn't it shouldn't think instead of actually going to the access of power and challenge them every turn their essentially just basically keeping the status quo but obviously towards the end of the no the time now that we kind of being looked. And we're going to hopefully be heading all of it and back to our normal lives kind of been great in terms of update in terms of some of the things that's going on that we can be an -ticipant for this new announcement coming forward in my indicate where we're basically going and i guess the good news was for myself and people that are interested in software. I'm interested in. Is that this original tweet here. This is from about Sometime earlier today he know it. Drain predator bushings. His press conferences hit important bird. Johnson says that the way fetus nightclubs and concerts and so we'll be able to open will be by them insisting those who attend can prove to be vaccinated or have a rapid flow test which is surely a covert identity card. He said here by the back door if allows us to important friedberg freedom back is this infringement or once not such a i think so. I think there was a lot of talk if your member in guessing a summa though some compensation around covid passports and in order to attend large scale events. And the idea. I fall behind. It mostly had to do it. Insurance companies. no one into reliable one ended up sick the last thing you know the organizers of of coachella every one is somebody to contract caveat premises ended up passing away a positive somebody in some thumping fatal happen nor wanted on their back on their conscience and up in the case. It's just not good. Pr at all. So if you can. Kind of mitigate that responsibility by having your patients ever pay for a rapid attests onsite or have some sort of card. That basically tells the organiser you have been cleared of having covid in the last two weeks a month. Whatever it may be you've you've been vaccinated loss two months weeks every along. The window is kind of absolves them of responsibility if anything goes wrong because you know you have essentially declared you're healthy enough to attend to everybody else and by ferry even if there is some wiggle room there because people do bring back tests where the double double negative on so that can basically happen. You know some anomalies can occur but it does mean that we can maybe get some semblance if you remember. There was an event. Run in the summer where i think. The primavera organizers did like a kind of trial run weight essentially tested her body before the actual event. And if you're were positive unfortunately you couldn't attend but then if you weren't and you can go in and it was essentially standard primavera for civil on a smaller scale. I think that's sixteen hundred. People attended local x playing only so limited again people travelling back and forth blahdy blah blah blah. But they were able to do that in the midst of everything that's going on. Have people dancing and reveling around each other. No restrictions no nothing and if we are thinking that entire sectors on the knees which you know the hospitality nightlife industry definitely is suffering does not support not really been indications to win. You can only open so. I guess on one hand i think session. Lord mentioned earlier the federal price since even uttered award nightclub in. You know i think the first time maybe in eleven months is something to kind of be happy about. Because it doesn't mean you might be in these plans denouncements coming forward next week but it's also may be a so bring Realization that if you do want to go back to nightclubs there might be has prison Kind of noted they might have to be some sort of give and take and it might be some soft sacrifices needed in terms of you get inside of my car again so the question would be. Do you wanna go back. Mike la bad enough that you're willing to infringe on your own civil liberties be point. Some sort of listed database of your you know information dna whatever it may be called uploading or some sort of system that allows you to internet club again. Is it worth at best a question. Is it worth it. I don't if myself is to go back. I would much rather maybe wait over anyway. As long as we have now the moment if it means way in a few more months to get everybody vaccinated that means everything can reopen as wills before fair play. But what's the timeline of them. Really and truly the only place any time i can see you know a nightclub i went to in two thousand nineteen opening to a same scale as i mentioned in the videos is twenty. Twenty two in terms of everyone just elba shoulder to shoulder. Spain on each other hanging out a smoking room. Getting busy in the toilets. I can't see that happening any other time. Head of that. I'm so this is maybe a kind of Realization a wakeup coffee. But if you wanna go to clubs. You're going to have to give up some of your civil liberties but that might be the trip so it continues here. This update. He says the following Down the street is very keen to point out that the pm who has explicitly ruled out that there will be an official requirement to carry a vaccine puzzle or proof of having the covid test before going to pop and so on which you can see here. But he says my point is that when he says he we can reopen. We can only reopen theaters. And so one with mass vaccinations and use of rapid lateral flow testing that introduces an unofficial system of every night identity. Cards weather desk by government orders or not anyway depend can prevent cova anti identity. Cards being intimidated by the back door is to make it illegal. For fetal entertainment pub to refuse entry to someone yukon prove that had vaccine. Would that be rational for him to do so. Is it likely no one knows so. That's very important to point out there so he looks like the trying to absolve themselves of responsibility. They don't want to be You know every done a badge of as is they don't want to be known as post people putting forward. These draconian almost always million Requirements for people to go and shake their bums in the on somewhere. They won't do you want to be known as that. So they kind of absorb also blaming placing him mostly on the operators in the sector. So will these clubs in order to reopen decide to do such a thing how will that. Mlb wedded how many people would want to do so considering the kind of anti Anti kind of anti everything's eat. Imagine personnel that kind of occupies goes into him and club in the first. But you'd imagine it wouldn't really go down well but entertainment spending eleven indoors does funny things to your to your resolve. It might make you be more willing to do things that you probably won't introduce on the pasta but let me in the store. Would you be willing to carry around the vaccine possible and not make sure you can go and your favorite nightclub all. Would you like me breath away until we can go back with having having out data and spit and dna onto her in a in a main database someway to nightclub. Lemme know we think in the comments down. Be low okay. What else we have here move on from that. We have did that. The move on from that was boss we have. We have a counter yesterday. I guess another good up day again. This is good indication. So i mean you have to just is a nice difficult and stuff. We just have to hold on. You really do have the hold on if you can as best as you can because things are definitely looking at. They're going to get better. This is the headline here from the guardian. Says you could travel coming campaign. Ramps appreciate allow holidays abroad from the first of may save r sum group calls for government roadmap to open up travel and reassurances. Uk makers is to make it safe to book for the summer so it seems that the comes impression for all size of industries right. Every part of the economy is suffering. And i guess the support in terms of furlough and elise bolts. Probably gonna run out next few months anyway so for the governor. Probably don't wanna be expending any more money than they need to and he's industry. Just wanna get back up and start again. Jimmy nolan missile and another summer. Bad enough missing out on some in christmas north misao to seasons if you can get hold him so it continues here says the following the travel sector is stepping up. Could i imagine just being crystal in you know in a sandy beach chris. Bluesy just imagine such a. There's a funny thing when somebody's things this class such a privilege but anyone can do so right. Most the most people live in western europe with some sort of disposable income can afford a summer holiday here and they're right maybe every every year every two every five but you can go if you wanna go in your lifetime. This are far our reach but the fact that we haven't been able to move freely when you cds pictures it kind of looks like something that's in the middle of monaco central paris. I don't know where they actually have used to. Send me your picture and miyoko which is fairly cheap to fly to low cost airlines from from the uk. Go day qualification. And is a big bridge. Population attitude experts. Whatever may be but you look at yourself. I look sake you know something any reserve for the rich and funny because during lockdown and people who have been able to travel freely quote unquote have been people of means who've been letting us know that they've been able to do it as an offering right. They're providing us with the content. It's given us fomer. It's keeping us wanderlust But they're also the only ones permitted to do so because you know they can angle the rules. They can order themselves a test. Big vaccinate ahead of time under the table does that concierge service. I think in dubai that was offering a package trip for people of higher means something that twenty grand or something you get flown out to some way in the uae or somewhere else in the middle east Pointing a hotel. You got vaccine. The hotels looks like a beach resort. Somewhere you know. Nice jacuzzis impose everywhere just beautiful experience a whole the whole shebang state every eleven days and then you get flown by flown back home again. So they're did. They're basically enjoying a whole different reality than we are. But again hold on because this is good for us because if it means a travel sectors kind of pushing for this it also means it's going to serve better when things reopen episodes here. The trump sector is stepping up his Ignore the government messaging of the launch of campaign to reassure consumers as safe to book lows in this summer to save r sum. Sos group is calling on the government charlotte at home and abroad possible for may i and guarantees. Anyone who book through his members will be entitled to a refund or change of day for holiday. Travel is counseled on not possible. Due to the government's covid restrictions to campaign has support for more want in twenty compare companies including easy to the days of travel finders dial and the united in outrage at the government's handling the crisis and facing towards to quote says you guess isn't should ignore government ministers fixing the advice of the book. Some trips have confidence said the co founder porch house of the peace agency so again these exit just had an. I'm surprised it's taken this long personally for people to just you know. Just do their own thing and be look just book for us. We're gonna guarantee what we can in for. The most part and i'd imagine a lot of customers are probably willing to accept that risk because it gives them something to look forward to his. Well jeremy say continues to confound henry morley of true travel said the travel industry stands on the edge of the precipice today they must now be a clear roadmap set out the first onwards physically for travel in order to reinstate consumer confidence and protect millions of jobs which hanging balance the group is also am calling quarantine measures to be replaced by an extensive testing program with rep testing on the rival of departure. To something you should have been implemented ages ago but hey abortions and the prime minister's ju to give the osen easing altern announcement between second affair. Brain is under pressure from the toy industry and lockdown skeptics to commit to a timetable. It allowed gut domestic trips in time for easter leads the cover of recovery group i icon for public restaurants and of opportunity to be allowed to happen in a way that covid secure but also allows them to pray in the community viable manner so filed. They've kind of one a little bit. Because i think they've taken off this dumb idea but having once essential meal jim that whole nonsense last summer where the only way they could open. Baas missions was by bosnian. Serb and pops was if they are allowed all were able to offer their punches a meal which obviously limited people could go in just a whole stupid thing that they had but you know for the. Most part pubs originals. Tiny industry have been you know one of the lowest in terms of the spread of covid. I think the child basically showed it was one of the bomb to places where the virus spread then mostly kept up. There basically kept very clean especially during this entire time screens everywhere people standing mosque and required drinking blahdy blah blah blah to do exactly what they can will tomatoes things done but the funny thing is these look skeptics. Allow people were kind of moaning at earlier on in the lockdown process Be are kind of oddly enough to people that we are so of silently rallying behind right. 'cause they've pushing for while to reopen or the she ingots reopen much probably should do also putting pressure on other sectors tools to do the same and push for it which also put pressure on the government. So you know they might be. There might be some nut jobs included in that group of people but order. No i think ultimately there'd been proven right especially when you consider the amount of damage this has done to everybody psyche. You know in the long term it continues chair of cumbria tourism. Jim walker said. We're very optimistic. About eastern is very important time for us in the new season that will set the store for us in the year ahead. The pandemic cost cumbria two billion in las chosen. God almighty in twenty twenty in a normal year tourism contributes a free been in the country's economy. He said he hoped that account the county's economy free billion is generated from tourism mad. He said he hoped the hotels and guest house with hoping soon off the self catching combination if not the same time yet it at a time when there have been no income property business have spent found so making sure they're safe oval domestic terrorism fell to thirty billion in twenty twenty down from nine t. One billion getaways is a big drop of again. All these sectors point pressure in the government means for us punches awesome average everyday civilians. The end is needed. End is near you. Be able to book your holiday very soon so hanging there if you can hang in there if you can knicks on the list. We have a very funny story. Courtesy of mix mak funny and also pre sad indication of where he has a site at the moment. So this is kinda mix mexican. Foreign berlin police corps to a two hundred passed rave. That was just a facebook stream. Such a tragic story falling police in berlin will call to seize Magdalena club might elena at the weekend after i concerned resident going contact with were poor over suspected illegal. Party the woman code emergency number. One one zero nine five pm on saturday to inform the police. She was watching a dance. Music streaming live on facebook major mess wolfing and apparently more than two hundred people were in attendance a reporter berlin so intact zine zun tiger zoning tug infra sponsor police gathered a large number of officers headed might spoil friedrich's trouser if strained friedrich's rates frigid trays and freed extreme every plaza where they heard the muffled sound of loudly i should she not pronounce. It was more often considering how much i you know. Rank off burger on the internet. But hey what can you do. What they've heard a muffled of loud bass feud music coming from the inside promptly. Surrounded building will they know is looking for the windows. Didn't mushroom didn't reveal much. Eventually the ring the door someone came to open an invite offices inside of yuda quote unquote party which was an intimate livestream with no guests present beyond the people paying playing and running a shame. The only audience were online views on facebook with the symbol in the top left hand corner. Indicate two hundred people tuned in. So this lovely. I'm guessing again. I'm going to say old lady. If somebody under twenty s you can go bridge but this old lady. I'm assuming was kind of on facebook year. Old ladies the reading up on cunanan fears that saw nonsense stumbled upon the stream and in saw the lou. I with the two hundred sixty nine next week at four. Oh my god. That's the which is which is funny that she's able to interpret it as a sign that it was people in there right. It's an interesting sign of like people viewers as she decided to cool the place Because she was afraid of those a legal party happening in the area now obviously is hilarious. But it's also kind of indicative of this kind of tattletale society. We're living in at the moment where people are fobbing in and calling in neighbors because of breaches of covid and afford especially now considering how far along we are in this process of kind of living for this will deal that people would have a lot more. Maybe i will say sympathy by understanding as to why some people want to break the rules. I haven't really broken any way meaningful way. Apart from you know inside parents here and they're all hanging out with some friends wherever it may be bothered really done anything crazy but even i understand that even though i don't wanna do i have people would want to gather people on probably as strong or is it as you and i and i to kind of adhere and kind of put their life on posing that way shape or form some people ever finding it. Hard to kind of come to grips with the reality living in right. That's probably explains these warehouse par season you know birthday celebrations you. Rita ora right. It probably explains it. 'cause people just can't come to grips they con- except that we're industrially for maybe you know a few moments still and until then whatever they deemed to be no more wherever they deem to bring them joy is going to be unattainable but you know some people. Just don't wanna accept that an s. o. k. I think you know if you live by the saudi davos sort if you accept that and you go ahead and do something bad happens. Then he just can't come around crying and complaining. Do you kind of you know. Infected your entire family and now you have grandparents econ come crying. You take the risk. It is what it is about just not keen corn the idea of people snitching having. Just don't go jimmy. You don't need to call the feds. They're gonna find out by anyway because police officers there should be on their job if they don't they dump but this idea that you'd call in the feds because you saw facebook stream is indicative of this culture. Live again. i think. I've kind of is kind of made me views stuff like that business. Techno group a little bit differently especially now again considering how far down the line we are right I know may just comes across a little bit a little bit. You know the weather when the beat that dude pointing fingers and saying oh. They're doing a bad thing. I just won't go over there. I'll tell my friends go over there. I'll tell people i love. Let's go just go somewhere else. Me need just feels a bit weird and the honest honest truth. Is that these people. These facebook stream mean that just trying to keep themselves sane depre- trying to raise some funds for the club. If you put up playing these play graves just trying to keep food on the table. They've probably leverage themselves in a way that would require them to be on the road. Wartime which is maybe no good use their finances but they're free to do what they want with their money or just free to what they want with a time and if people are willing to book them in these developing countries our countries and they're willing to put an willing with the click conscious to go there and play and was leverett risk. Then i guess it is what it is like. I just don't see the benefit of kind of clipping them up and putting them on pages and shaming them. Because there is no shame if you're willing to do if you're willing to do and you're willing to play and you will interpose on your social. I just don't see the shame associated with trying to keep your head above water during a time where most governments have failed with a of vietnam new zealand australia. South korea does not really a low countries. Come this looking great the isle of wight life puzzles baby scandinavian. Maybe right now. Nolan's or the imagined in most of those countries creative arts and creative industries and the night life economies probably bottom of the totem points of priorities. So these people who prey isn't a kind of your whole life is again. I mentioned about how badly effort by people that are working in bars and nightclubs actually in the actual places if you're that work in a cloakroom and bob access stuff that's your entire life and she has been taken away from you so so imagine defecting dopamine hit and stuff need on the weekly daily basis. It's no surprise. They're willing to put their life and the health at risk to go and play play gravy. It doesn't make me especially in to pay you for it during a time when you don't have that much money on so yeah i don't know man. I think i'm a little bit. I've gone off the whole idea of like you know between pages and sharing stuff and you know pretending 'cause i'm not really outrage machete stuff on my social after beyond this. I'm already outraged. It's just there's a little bit of kind of envy because you wanna be day of self right lamm because you wanna play. They might be just a bit and because it's a reality that's really foreign from your reality at the moment but in terms of outraged and feeling angry is happening not really. I've never felt that. Even when i was posting the stuff about the position baier's in paris earlier last year sometime wasn't filled with angry. If anything else speaking goddamn worst aca snickering. But i was too much of a pussy to go so it is what it is but yeah that's a funny story. I mean she sees two hundred people attending a facebook event. And she thinks this actual people in the actual event caused the police. They will kim see a livestream and a promptly head on their way harris harris loss. We have him that the move on because some more to get through Es so this is courtesy of diverge so elon. Musk was on clubhouse. Maybe a few weeks ago and he did this really cool show on the cold. Unless it's called good time. Was it code to the clip has was cool ch- jesse the good time show. Yep so he was under to show called the good time shown clubhouse Which is hosted by husband and wife team cerium krishnan an rt raga rama rama maruti ramamurti and it was a really really really i. Guess one of the persons ones one of them. Having the husband is now being newly announced as a partner in the country. Since kind of grouping a one six z. Right so the way i bring up. It was a fantastic interview. Maybe one of the best interviews. I've heard from england in a while and it kind of is funny because this comes off the back of. I guess there's been some backlash it comes to clubhouse with some journalists special times one's who've made it their mission to council and bring down some of the more you know Some of the more prominent voices with intech. We've in startup industry because they feel like they're toxic and the bros. End in in doing enough inclusion. This stuff i dunno. Whatever it is they're just anti-capitalism. I dunno who cares but regardless the nature it has kind of breeded a s kind of britain and environment in terms of media where it does seem to be a bevan adversarial relationship. Between some of these really amazing inspirational figures that lead these companies And some of the interviews have been having which kind of leads to a shitty interview for people like myself to watch and listen to read. I think the the journalist nellie bowls as kind of going out with Barry weiss for a new york times the lady who maced kind of pollen responsible for to a Breakdown because she was the person that kind of led that whole enforce monogamy thing in two thousand eighteen membership article for newell times and basically you know. Basically hit piece on george pearson. Even though she acted like ios friend and children a good fluff piece on him. When tall alongside dave dave rubin into them in the kind of stubborn above from the back and she said something on twitter which he ended up in about all. This elon musk interview. Clubhouse was a real softy. Softy thing do journalists needs to be in a room they compressed into the person's get interviewed. Bit more and guess. I'm really in question of kind of lavenham up and just being there leading full. No actually. this is why people can have more prone in a more kind of drawn to podcasts. Because in most part alum full us. It's very difficult to have like an adversarial kind of you know I'm trying to take you down interview when you're sitting there. Was somebody an hour. Also you know you might come come into it with one idea and you come it with another because you've got time to actually sit down and speak to the person i'm here. I'm actually fresh out. Their ideas speak about their experiences. Where they coming from how they think it kind of gives you a bit of an idea and again most because i listened to the best way to actually make your own mind up on the person. It's actually just let them speak you. See that happening with candace owens. Oh she appeared under oregon a lot. People kind of way to kind of suss out that. She's a boever dumb dumb. Because joe rogan just basically less speak and kind of twist us off encircled you sort of pacific. Dave ruben. Says idea that you have to kind of be a competitive relationship or interview to get the best out of it is really dumb. I've never really understood that kind of really always hate it. Which is why. I've never been a big fan of the chorus wishes of his world kind sits there in a avia glasses and has this way persona that. She's the really journalists going to push back and give these guys a hard time. It's like we don't care we're here to find out about what new products they have. Maybe kind of answer some questions that we had burning in our heads and just hit them. Speak because you really kind of hit them. Speaking of buffalo listen to view is really good. Diversion really cool. Roundup regarding things happened quickly read here. It says the media venture capital was our buzz. We can put events of during an after differences of Musk in so quite one year. Old older social network. Musk is not the reclusive gives interviews to more or less but his reverend clubhouse served as a validation for the company and the idea of live interactive audio shame generally now are you said before a fan of club. I'm not every spoken in one room of listened into a couple of things here and there like the idea that i have to kind of choon into tuning into radio even a big fan radio back in the day i did. I have to kind of you know semi clerk and find out what time it is the america to be these rooms just annoying And why i kind of switched over causing most part because you can listen to it on demand whenever you want. But hey ho you continue The spy became the mushroom quickly. Hit the clubhouse cap of five thousand concurrent listeners as one of listening Hosting april costly appears and that another overflow of maroon after all day long hustler some hackers sought to get into the action hosting pre show discussion. Post show recaps and in one at least a cash giveaway sponsored by square on club clubhouse. Musk appeared under good talk. Show a roughly free week old late night. Vent by the husband and wife team. I mentioned before guessing coast on the show often include partner. Countries in the horowitz clubhouse lead investor and most prominent public cheerleaders. I've known of krishnan and roses. Two hundred twenty two thousand tall story when i was interrupted. The coffee day at the cream is for cisco's continue blah the tone of the shows lightweight by design successful tech people getting together after they put their kids to bed to discussing user today with without ever been too critical of anyone involved in this aspect of show is totally consistent with the mission of entry in laid out last week in book was nee would create a media company as practically to go to plato understanding building the future for anyone who's booty making curious about tech and that's i think is the most kind of wholesome and great. I love about the show and i love about the interview in general Again it kind of just as a reminder of why enjoy those interviews with these individuals who are kind of grape it maybe maybe flawed sometimes the flaws in them are basically you know reported already by most parts of mainstream media. You need to provide. I feel like with an opportunity or space. They can go to. What if you're comfortable enough to speak about the good. The bad news was going to get highlighted who wants to highlight them. And it's interesting that the more that we've seen clouds be permanent. The more we've seen the more controversial people you would imagine in society kind of fluctuate because they're seen as a safe place them to kind of be able to speak freely which is kind of countries you imagine what taylor lorenzo trying to a couple of weeks ago by essentially is kind of proved the fact that a lot of these big figures and tech on people in general have kind of grown to distrust mainstream media and slowly but surely windows away which is why. You're seeing a lot more of these people talking in places like twitter. You know putting up. Instagram lives going cost. Every maybe they wanna go directly and speak directly to their people to their audience to people who are fans of them instead of using the media. Dementia me as a platform to speak. 'cause you know you're wasn't gonna get twisted of course leads me onto this amazing announcement. Courtesy of fortune magazine guess appeal. This is a fortune magazine says here that then position a video. It's not with this. So this is from fortune. Magazine says a falling tech crypto founder. Jason horowitz appraiser media. Is that bad news. So following it says if you've ever been possibility of cindy compiler cryptocurrency. You've likely heard. Of andreessen horowitz one tex highest profile venture capital firms the firm which tech insiders call a one sixty eight sixty zero as it went sixty harvey pronounce. It is famous part. Because of his investments facebook chlorine base and other names but also because of its maastricht. Charming manipulate the media. So perhaps it's no surprise. Eight one sixty is building an empire media empire. The details are still trickling out but the short version is that off the decade of cultivating journalists of intimate koto affairs. Affirmative decided to no longer needs him. Is that a one. Six hiring lodge thirteen to cover stories about crypto fintech and other topics with an update slump. If you want a long story read some piece. On six press whisper margareta wrote one. Reason was become immediately is because he can once companies need to rely on the next on your time to get their stories out of the public does publications including fortune had a virtual monopoly on information because they control the bell ak the newspapers and magazines the news website musical disrepute. The incident blew out that monopoly slowly at first and then rapidly a once platforms at twitter. Medium subject came to the scene so they're essentially doing what i think you're gonna see. Most companies end up doing creating our own media armed. They can actually use and utilize to wherever spread. Propaganda clarified that position. Update their customers new services and updates and products and blahdy blah blah and just essentially provide a kind of. okay said a platform where can provide upbeat and positive news on. I guess an industry in a sector day clearly felix changing award because it must be frustrating. Right of what's in startups. Just as an employee. And i can just imagine must be an actual found of company. You're trying to change the world. Which a cornea a little bit. Lame A little bit tried to say maybe a little bit but these founders do come into the scene. Generally wanting to change the world wanting to be a disruptor what intellectually revolutionize whatever is going into. And if you're not doing good they feel like they are actually providing the world with a safe away to do abcd wherever may be an into have pilsen media platforms like tech crunch verge gizmodo whatever. It may be picking apart every single move. You do scrutinizing every every single decision painting you in a bad. I look giving you the benefit of the doubt. It must be just exhausted to continually try to correct their perception of you. So why bova. If you have the means and you have contacts and you have the The tools at your disposal to change that narrative and provide yourself and the industry allows you love a people that you feel are actually moving new and change in the world and making a better place and provide a platform that they can actually go to draw to kind of have good press right because there's nothing bad about having a press especially in all the we live in where you know. Good news seems to travel faucet than good than bad or banishing. Travel has been good story. It's not it. It does seem like a really clever idea to do. Especially when you consider that. Marc andreessen has been. Somebody had been super vocal about his disdain. For the mainstream media so my shown to kind of doesn't really play no games amendment moment. You say anything that could be could be kind of construed as like negative criticism against him you immediately especially if you're journalist. He doesn't ramp Which is essentially lets the whole taylor lawrence where she tried to get him and his fellow guests canceled because they said retard in a rumor though describing the wall street bets lingo and how they kind of get down subway absolutely stupid woman but hey what can you do. Bad love it man. I loved the idea. And again. I i can definitely see a lot. More companies deciding to At a media today corporations again it provides a safe outlet food. You to kind of say what you want to say. People doing announce social media platforms as is against subject medium twitter. All these places are blowing up. We companies most ops. I would four had medium. Most jobs are going to have a subset probably most even department so i can imagine the promotion. Pr marketing teams per development having subject that they can kind of get their mobile kind of add ogden. Cheerleaders subscribe to lows of avenues. Epic of. I'm definitely came to see how that develops again. Sixty are big players in the saas up industry community in general and when they make a move more likely than not ever gonna make a move to Misread a couple of years is here. Let's be most one carry-on to the that says here The big reason they want sixty s turn is back on social. Media is because a firm like monrovia tekoa regards press ignorant and unfair instead of hailing the ways of which tech is changing our lives diesel critics say journalists fixate on negative stories pushing hit pieces and take downs at serve. Their own agenda was more one sixty and others would add. Report was print publishing pieces. Even if they don't know that they're talking about exactly is better than to leave it to those like the partners are sixty two and the scribes who do. So what should we make of this unsurprisingly. Many reports recoiling at what he wants to see is doing. Claiming is a media. Ambitions are simply propaganda not real journalism pov. This sour grapes. Journalists are prone to self importance and chris in the push by six and others to cut them off. They may simply be lamenting loss of power and prestige. And why does he just wants to see motifs It's hard to bash the stuff that we that they are publishing. I've been reading the company's technically as have conceded they're excellent sophisticated well informed and crispy if this is the case. Perhaps our impulse should be praised robert and criticize the company after the information they're publishing is free useful embedded in a lotta clip baked trick and passes for muscial real quantico jones and these days and yet as much as the appreciate a high calorie content i shudder at the prospect of a world where he was a sixty carries more media cloud than the times when we will to journal as there is case with so much more ellison silicon valley. This new custom media barons appears to have the money and the glory but not the responsibility that comes distribution christmas dominates entire industries. The pharmaceutical airport sick of growing chorus of voices the mainstream media and that's understandable silicon valley despite its flaws still carries secrete side. It's offers the best hope to elevate global problems disease pollution and poverty but the tech industry has exhausted a host of other problems from discrimination to in quality and simply adopting a protect vision fills irresponsible. So yeah more day can read again. Point in a lengthy check out to progresses finishes you then there is a truth then there a truth to power thing a phrase six inside the recently used to suggest to me that the idols journalism acquaint all naive and i agree in the last century. Traditional media institution have been fearless and standing up to palace powerful story businesses and presidents fighting and coal for free speech why individual journalists have gone to jail to protect their sources. Such activities are essential to the functioning of democracy in for now. It appears a one sixty is not interested in taking part in them in this sixty meteo emissions remind me of the cryptocurrency industry a fill. The firm is also trying to dominate many. Bitcoin believers will tell you the currency and industry around there are about freedom and escape into power of the government and the big banks. And while there's something to that Few in a cryptic industry have much to say about how the helped millions of americans struggling with hunger unemployment lack of healthcare. I worry that if pressed their response would be. It's not my problem again. I don't think this is jeff jeff roberts of fortune. I don't think it's that deep had region more so at a case of death being fed up of all the antibiotic anti start of anti silicon valley. Think pieces and hit pieces. Exist out there They're being lauded as you know the second coming of lipton stalin when they put up products or they say a an opinion about economy. Whatever it may be and they just want to provide those platform in a space that they can freely speak about and kind of uplift the other voices in the industry and again if it turns into more than that is but why consumers just sounds like a place for them to kind of pat themselves in the back. Which again isn't a bad thing. When you consider that the the i think their benefits definitely far outweigh the negatives. But again what do i know. Move on fortune by papa. Oh yeah you've seen this. It's you've high-priced so it looks like the where testers the tom. Sex two point. Fives are get into sombor. Tom sachs modern nike. Nike tom. the the tom sex nike craft maserati. 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Episode #32: How PR has Changed, What Companies Often Overlook, Jeffrey Toobin is Fired, and a Baseball GM Smashes the Gender Barrier

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Episode #32: How PR has Changed, What Companies Often Overlook, Jeffrey Toobin is Fired, and a Baseball GM Smashes the Gender Barrier

"The recorded live from hong kong toronto. This is the pr in la podcast. Pr and law. Podcast with europe's mcmurdo cheap and you and christie. Welcome to episode. Thirty two of the pr in law podcast. I'm your host can murcia with you and christie hello cameron. Un is an employment lawyer and partner. John troon lp toronto canada and online doesn't true dot law. I'm a pr guy based in hong kong and publisher of the digital bits pr and communications newsletter at digital bits. Pr dot com. If you enjoy the podcast please tell a friend. You can also follow us on lincoln twitter instagram and facebook and subscribe to us on youtube and soundcloud but most important of all sign up for our newsletter. You can get updates when new episodes drop and other show information at pr law. Podcast dot club. We have a very big show plan today along with a special guest in our green room ready to join us shortly to talk all things. Pr but i you and what's happening on your side who. I didn't even know we have a green room. That's exciting getting. Our guest does either Down in the basement today we've got Hundred ten kilometer an hour winds here in toronto. So i hope i hope you can hear me all right helping blow away. You're not going to be happy to hear this. Un because you know. We're recording today again on monday morning. Hong kong time sunday. Evening your time and it is a beautiful blue sky. Day here with a high of twenty four degrees. It's perfect. yeah that that. That really doesn't make me feel any better. Kim not in the least although i should say i have power as i understand. People's in the north east south and west of me are all without so I apparently i'm lucky. Yeah that's That's always an issue. Yeah with the power lines. Sort of above ground Because that's the other thing different with with asia. A lot of the powers is underground and so when we get typhoons the power stays on which is quite quite good but that's one of the challenges of living in a massive country That you get there and you get many benefits from that to on the flip side true. Yeah i wanted to bring up one thing today you because you know we talk about the power of communications and the power of sort of who is saying and what they're saying. What their message messages. And who is delivering the message and how that can really shape views. So i was really caught yesterday when i came across this video which was shared on on Instagram and twitter as well and it's about donald trump sort of you. And i'm not sure if you recall but the trump campaign a few days after the election decided to hold a news conference at the four seasons in philadelphia. The president said that they would go to the four seasons to sort of make their case to challenge the election results and that four seasons turned out to be a four seasons total landscaping four seasons hotel. And it's described as a ramshackle industrial zone parking lot near an exit in philadelphia. And this story is quite funny. You and so. I'm going to put a link in the show notes but the main point is trump's people were there including you know rudy giuliani and people like that. I'm aware another man named corey. Lewandowski do you. Does that name ring a bell to you. Yeah yeah of course it does yeah. He was trump's campaign manager in two thousand sixteen out before it was fired. And that's when steve bannon took over but he has stayed. It's been a cnn. Pundit over the years that kind of thing and he stayed involved with the trump campaign anyway corey lunacies wife who posted the video. And here's what she had to say. Hey y'all i'm sure you're a banal bat. My husband corey has been diagnosed with covid nineteen I'm sorry i. I was going to try to pretend to crop at can't even do that all. You'll know this is going to happen. Like i knew it was going to happen. I've been telling him like it's going to happen and he's been like well. You don't know what you're talking about. You're stupid you're a woman you know and i'm like you always say that. But how we told him like god gets those who need to get got and he's one of those that needed to get got into day. The lord has blessed us because today corey has covid nineteen. And i mean it was. It was just validating to see you. Because i got. I turned on my tv last sunday and i saw that mother. I saw the father of my children. At four seasons total landscape and saying they're like fucking nerd with rudy giuliani. Who and all those other debt sheds pretended like he's not fully involved and hope pigs ass and you look so stupid and that's an attack and i was like you're going to get covid. I did with the modi's so it was like Like the plain white man emoji and arrow the covert emoji the mass moody ex moody and then me and the kids leaving emoji. And he sent me a text that is like talking about but lo and behold here we are. Listen may the lord bless. You sounds like a happy marriage. Well hey cam you might be the communications guy. But i think that corey lewandowski's wife is the one who's dropping bombs there. God always gets those who need to get got. Somebody should put that on a bumper sticker. That's amazing yes. You know when i listen to this you and i just thought this is sort of a worst nightmare for people because you know if you professionally criticize somebody. There's still sort of an arms length between who the person is and what they do not always but sometimes but this is an example of the closest person theoretically to douse the person. It's the mother of his children. It's the person who who knows him best to talk this way about him publicly. I mean it's one thing to say this privately to her friends another to put it out there publicly it's just the strongest indictment of lewandowski. You could possibly have and again. This isn't a company. Pr this is not some sort of you know company initiative. It's just one person speaking to instagram by herself. But the power behind that just because of the context is quite incredible. Now kim just a quick point because you know we often talk about on this show. How particular messages or mischaracterized or misreported in the news. My understanding and i i saw a news report and maybe this news report was mischaracterizing. What actually happened. But that the intention was in fact to hold the press conference at the four seasons total landscaping that this was largely determined because of its proximity to highways in terms of being able to get people in and out and that it was largely the media that picked it up and concocted this story that the intention was to have it at a four seasons hotel. And you know. Trump's incompetent communications people effectively. Just you know. Put out the wrong or book. The wrong event is not right. That is one of version that slotting around. I'll post a couple of articles in the show notes. It's not clear what happened I would suspect that this is not on purpose. Only because it looked as a backdrop. It looked awful. If you're remember you're the president of the united states and you're challenging an election so it seemed very odd. Do that in a strip mall in front of yeah. I really run down building but also how did that happen. Like how did it end up. I mean there's some people are speculating that that trump said publicly it would be at the four seasons but the four seasons philadelphia was booked out and so they had to find a way to make what trump said true. That's one version came out. I don't. I don't think that one's sounds right to me either but i. I don't think we're ever going know you. And because it's just one of those things it's It's going to be an election mystery. Continue the debate with us on social media. Join us on lincoln. Facebook twitter and instagram podcast. All would word. P r l a w podcast. Send us your questions now by email to ask us at pr law. Podcast dot com. That's all one word. Ask us law. Podcast dot com or on social media with the hashtag. pr law pot that's hashtag la dwp od all right. We're really happy this week because we do have a very special guest joining us today. It's simon murphy. He's the head of corporate at ethel merman. I think our pr and communications listeners are probably familiar with that brand name. But for those of you who aren't Elements one of the largest if not v. largest pr and communications firms in the world. So it's a it's a treat to have simon join us today. Welcome to the show you how you and thank you for having me. Yeah no problem before we get started. Maybe you can just sort of give us a bit of a bit of background on on yourself and sort of what you do at element. Yeah she'll So as you riley called out on the head of corporate at in hong kong edelman Is the world's largest independent. Communications firm says about six thousand bus around the world And typically we work with well known and less well known brands and companies who Either one to promote oils protect their brand reputation. We do that by by an trust. Trust is the currency which helps protect those firms and wins the little advocates out there. Yeah that's another thing that we have talked a lot about on. The show is trusted how important that is For companies that are trying to communicate. I i've worked with simon in my current role and obviously one of the big issues has been this year. Even prior to that is the us election which was held earlier this month and it is just a us presidential election but it seems to have impact that goes far and wide beyond the united states. sort of. What was your impression on this election. Cycle simon in terms of sort of how companies outside of the us or or. What questions did they have. Or what did they seem to be concerned about. Well yeah. I mean you're right. It happened in the. Us chemical spot a think in living. Memory perot one of the most globally anticipated Elections and a week and a half off the event. We still don't really know the outcome. And that really reflects the uncertainty that this is colds just for firms operating within the us an international firms dealing with the rest of the world but also other regions as well some into the mic. Lines is being eager anticipation but also defensiveness The geopolitics between the us and china of course is being right in the recent months. And this is a real impact Not just on the asia region but the world in general so uncertainty. I think is probably the word that under schools The us election and continues to do so right In particular chinese companies. Well seemed to be sort of a target of of of this administration. Yeah no eight. It appears so. I think we've trump almost conceding defeat by his favorite medium twitter. All ohasi we'll see As Various logs cases proceed. But yeah certainly seeing that One of the accusations he's making. Is that china help and lose the election. Because that's where. Kobe started exactly. Yeah and what simon's referring to is is Yeah the president seemed to indicate. Potentially the joe biden did win the election but then he quickly reneged and said it was rigged. And he's not going to concede anything In typical trumpian style. Lettuce must be true. Exactly exactly loves to do that. We talk on this show a lot. About how companies need to focus on. Pr that it's not just an afterthought or an admission kind of function but something that requires investment because bad pr can be very severe. Obviously it could put companies out of business even so what are some changes to the industry that you've seen Sort of over your career. Because you're quite experience sort of in this field. How has it evolved. And how have sort of your clients changed over time. Well yeah. I started my career working very much. We've brines who wanting to promote themselves in against the traditional sense of of of getting exposure within the traditional media and back then of course twenty five years ago The traditional media was pretty strong. People read newspapers these days. They don't And so that storytelling has evolved we now toll to multiple different stakeholders not just the media but government influences industry Employees are really important audience as well and we do so through. Multiple channels says no longer just the traditional media So that's kind of night. Shift the story telling how that civil but also the industry itself has become a lot more consultative With there to help tell stories but will also help problem solve and also Consult so it's a pretty stressful space. But i think the diversity of of what we do makes it really interesting. You know when when companies do come to you or when Either in your role that'll of outside that and talk about putting together a pr plan. I mean what do you think is the one area that companies usually overlook or over. Look you know. When they're going down this path. I think the they often mayes developers. What's the story which goes back to what we fundamentally still doing is telling a story about an organization and what it stands for soils spoil it back down to the you know the cool concept at the white house and it just amazes me. How many organizations don't have that. Why in the storytelling. And it's so important we live in this world where misinformation is rife people in general. Don't know what new sources to trust. Go social media three or four times. Even though what's on social media is mostly garbage and then they look at the traditional one major on the listen to their employers so telling a simple effective emotive story that truly connects it audience That's number one. The second thing that they need to be thinking about is how do we trust. Trust is currency that really helps ensure against crisis down the track and wins advocates. Because you know this is fundamentally what we what companies are out there trying to achieve is to convert people and we in fans. These are interesting points. Because actually i come across something similar. Which is the that you talked about. Because sometimes there are Companies or or or people who say you know let's put out a press release on this and get it out or let's publish this article or whatever it might be but the question is. Why are we doing that. What what is the outcome that we're looking for. It's a cliche but sort of what is success. Look like you know what we want out of this. And i think that's one area where it does seem to kind of fall down. We're not really in the business of just sending out press releases for the fun of it or just for the record. It's for a purpose. It's to generate coverage or make a point or something along those lines. And i do think that's often forgotten ya no. I agree What's interesting though cameras. The you know the press racecourse was still is many organizations a means of getting a missive out about the company but many organizations these days. You know they don't bother sending out press releases microsoft for example at a global level place postal blokes most important announcements. That wants to get out there and it has a legion of advocates who follow with journalists analysts industry watchers consumers customers. You name it out on this news and then share it so really. It goes box that notion of what do we want. Say how do we want. An you know when i when i worked at the The hong kong stock exchange And we did launch a chief executive blog. When i was there and you're right like publishing something in a blog or in an article on the website often does so much better than a press release and it can be the same subject the same key messages but written in different ways and one is so much more effective than the other. Yeah that is something. That's really come to light. But i think it's hard to get clients or companies to think that way just because a press release has been a long around for so long as the first thing they think of often. Yeah right absolutely but you know if you're studying out there as an intrepid consultant You gotta be thinking across multiple channels because mentioned you know audiences. These days don't necessarily read newspapers or they unnecessary read cr blogs Necessarily read lincoln forms ego. Go to take makes you stand where your audience is at and then really it is a conversation and it's a conversation which is not meant to be to celie But his men's being gauging and able to connect ryan. It's a complex. It's complex I'm gonna get out of the way so you can ask a question here in a second but but the last one from me really is We talk on the show a lot about advice for small businesses or for people in small companies. Sort of how how they can manage employment law and communications issues. So i mean what advice would you give to a small business. That maybe doesn't have the resources to go out and hire you or a fulltime communications person in house. Even what should they be thinking about the most. What is their number one priority in your view. Well i think to start off with what is it the they wanna be talking about. What is the story that they won't tell audience and also who is the audience. Who are they trying to influence. And an engage So that's really really critical. I think you know you can get access to some some pretty skilled and experienced consultants. How the airman's great We do a lot of things really really well but there's also smaller firms out there who can equally offer some great advice and support So have a look around there. Some some some good experts out there. I think also having that no star wide. What's the story that you wanna tell animals remembering that it's not a shot to exercise. Its long-term though and the long term goal should always be about owning trust among you'll To rage it's all about advocacy That will help people actively recommend you. But also when tom's down actually actively defend you as well so also crosses mitigation these some of the things you need to think about Some short term considerations. But also remember. It's a long term goal that essentially trust capital. Yes i just wanted to follow up on your last point. I mean i I deal a lot of small and mid size employers. The were talking hundred or a few hundred employees and often. I find that when we're trying to craft the policies procedures and workplace culture than an employer wants to present to the public to you know largely to attract top talent or or top clientele the pr and communications element of disseminating. That brand identity is really important. Unfortunately i find that a lot of clients get really overwhelmed when they sit down with communications people you know. And they're they're introducing industry jargon and different tech products to help promote their brand you know what strategies do you suggest to help engage employers and kind of get them on board you and you touched on an interesting conundrum which has existed for a long time which is that marriage between legally. Npr can always be a slightly tricky one. But look in terms of in terms of how you can position yourself as an employer of choice. There are many many ways You can join associations you can look at employee engagement and actually use your own employees as advocates to to take the bryan out there and about wise or special such a great place to work Another important aspect is is what the company knowing she normally sells but actually does from a saas hawaii economic impact. So is there a serious program will still really strong. es gee that looks at areas like how how. The company operates around important issues such as the environmental sustainability policies on inclusion. And so on. These are all issues that really matter to future employees particularly younger generation. It's important that you consider normally what the company saying in terms of its product and sell on it does But actually what it stands for as well and probably the loss point. Mike is the importance of leadership So you know. In this days of confusion on uncertainty more and more people looking to employ in business leaders for comment and opinion and direction on on issues around the economy and society so having a really strong leader. Who's out there talking. Not just about the business how the business is participating howard souls some of the sauce when he hits you. That's really important as well. Yeah that's a that's a great point you know one of the key elements of good corporate governance and we've talked about this Before on the show. Is this idea of tone from the top. You know the idea that the ceo and the the senior executives they need to really set the tone for how the rest of the employees the company should conduct themselves You know simon. How much involvement do you think that a communications team should have in that process. As opposed to just letting the ceo or executives one loose and disseminate that message off the cuff albeit in a more authentic way well authenticity goose's k. But the has to be a marriage between the two. I think a great example of that one that always point to is is how site unitel at Microsoft help inform the image of the organization from the bad boy of Of software sales monopoly in the eighties and nineties to to the organization that it is today which is really one. That's out there You know to solve and and help the world through technology But clearly if you've read his biography but you know the ethics of the man Very closely at the heart of all microsoft purpose these days. And i think you know that direction definitely comes from a talk. But is the communicated not necessarily. He's working with working with teams around not just communications teams coolest but mock seeing locals. Izzo is all important so The direction should come from the top. Certainly the values should be deep seated across leadership spectrum and thereafter ready to be a partnership Hacky partnership between those various Teams i think the part about the story is really important because that kind of sits the heart of what you're trying to say I mean in the case of for instance again when i was at the stock exchange. We really wanted to show that we were. You know innovative forward thinking that listing. The you know there's a very successful financial market That were on par with other large exchanges in the world and these key themes kind of you weave them into sort of every bit of communication that you have Again if you're a technology company that's innovation and you try and work innovation into your announcements or your your marketing materials or your communications materials to really try and drive home that key message or that key sort of image that you'd like to cultivate yeah quite right. So i've mentioned values but of course today we are telling a story telling stories through various channels into various stakeholders. But the has to be consistency. The so underlying that sheet of course be evaluated. And then you'll straw. Which is the wise. It's talk but can as you mentioned those messages are really important. Typically to three But they should be repeated as nl at nauseam. Some people really get to understand what it is. You stand for what you're trying to say but yet the around message is ready really important right on. Thank you so much for joining us today. Simon we really appreciate it. My absolute thanks guys. Show your support to the be or podcast by making a one time donation or sitting up a subscription zombie on every little bit helps us. Keep the lights and bring the show to you each week. If you like to chip in please visit me. You're in law. Podcast dot com. That's pr in la podcast dot com. Click support this show. Thanks for helping us out. That was excellent. Having simon on just now i think it's good to get that kind of perspective. Right like he's not an inhouse guy. He's dealing with a lot of different clients and so he brings that that perspective To the way he looks at communications also. Yeah that was really really fantastic. I mean you know. I i wish i sort of had better access to someone like that with a number of my clients because you know again and we. This is why our show exists him. We're just talking about the marriage between what you do and what. I do the idea that there. There is this wedding of pr and communications and employment law for employers for employees. And you really need one just as much as you need the other. And i think there are so many small and mid size employers out there that effectively turn a blind eye To what you guys do the expertise that you offer right. They sort of think well built a website and And that's good enough. And i'm up and running but really. That's that's just tip of the iceberg kind of stuff so you and what have you got on tap this week. Well kim and i understand. This might be beating a dead horse at this point. But i wanted to go back to you jeffrey toobin. We talked about him in episode. Twenty nine and we're sort of speculating as to what might happen if there are any listeners. Who are at this point. Unfamiliar with the story. And i don't really know how that's possible given all the media coverage that this is received. But jeffrey toobin he wrote for the For the new yorker. He also was legal analyst for cnn or is as i understand a legal analyst for c. n. n. And a few weeks ago he was caught masturbating during a zoom call. With a number of his colleagues he was immediately suspended from the new yorker And the new yorker promised to investigate the incident while we learned of the conclusion of that investigation earlier. This week and jeffrey toobin was fired from the new yorker right. And what did you and one thing. I didn't hear was what happened. Cnn have they also let him go or do you know. I should probably know that. Good good questions. So i was. I was hunting around The interwebs earlier. Today trying to see if i could get any anything conclusive on that my understanding is. Cnn has yet to issue a statement as to whether or not He will remain at cnn. They seem to be quiet. I wouldn't be surprised if they were waiting to see how the new yorker played this out and perhaps to to the the idea was to follow steps and i don't know if you saw the statement camp from from conde nast chief people officer which i can assume is some fancy name for hr. And i don't wanna go on too much of a tangent but as an employment lawyer this is precisely the kind of stuff that drives me nuts when you're sort of going through. Corporate policies and procedures manuals and companies are creating unnecessarily difficult and convoluted terms for positions or things that can really be simplified to make them easier to understand Anyway putting putting that aside so stand dunkin who is their chief people officer He circulated a memo to the employees. And this is what it said. And i was curious to get your take on this to camp. So the memo said. I'm writing to share with you that our investigation regarding Jeffrey toobin complete and as a result he is no longer affiliated with our company. I want to assure everyone that we take workplace matters seriously. We are committed to fostering an environment where everyone feels respected. Upholds our standards of conduct. What do you think him so. I have not seen this before so. That's the first time i've heard it. I think at first listen. It sounds okay. The only part in there. That i personally don't like is the bit about fostering What does it say a culture or a workplace or something. That sounds a little. Pr speaking to me I think sometimes it's better just to come out and say he's no longer affiliated with us. This kind of behavior will not be tolerated and you know kind of be a little more direct But i think it's it's not awful. Let's put it that way it's It's possible at satisfactory. While i think actually this might be. We should make note. What's the day today. november fifteenth You and i agree from the legal angle. I agree with you. I think it probably should have been a little A little more occurred is the wrong word but perhaps a little more it looks overly process. You know it looks like someone's gone over again and again and again and again. And i think the lesson here though i think is when when something negative happens and obviously what toobin did was a blight on the new yorker. I mean we talked about that. Not the new yorkers fault. Obviously but and i don't think anyone's gonna cancel their subscription. Because what jeffrey toobin did But it's still associates them with to act as you mentioned on episode twenty nine but i think for companies. You don't wanna take a negative situation and then your reaction to that negative situation to then talk about how good you are because that seems a little disingenuous. It's okay to put out positive messages about sort of the workplace culture that you're trying to build but i would try and keep that separate from this kind of statement because it's not a pleasant thing. I mean jeffrey toobin by all accounts is a well. Liked guy at the new yorker and cnn. He's been around a very long time. It's not like i mean. This was a huge surprise but he is well known himself. And i think it's okay just to say this happened and he's now gone and this is something we won't tolerate and leave it at that. The fluffy stuff can come can come later. Yeah i completely agree with you. Actually and i mean particularly considering that this was sort of an internal memo right. I think all the more reason to just use fewer words right in that that old adage of the writing style if anybody takes the time to look up. The economists writing guide And it has sort of the. I think it's the what the five rules of that george orwell had for writing and one of them is always use fewer words. If you can write a sentence using fewer words do so yeah always comes up a lot i think. That's that's that's a rule that more people should follow hit in law. Pr communications whatever you do. I think that that should be up there. Among the holy grail of of writing tools. I do have a question for you on this though you normally. Hr issues would be kept private like if somebody else got got fired for stealing the stapler or something. You wouldn't send out a company wide memo about that. So at what point and obviously jeffrey too but this became a public story. And i assume that that's difference but at the same time. What sort of privacy is been entitled to in this case because it's very strange to send a a a an email across the company because someone has been fired That seems quite odd to me. But what's your take. Yeah i you know. I think that's a great point now. you know i came across. This was according to a report in the daily beast. And it's simply said. They circulated a memo to employees whether it went to all employees. I don't know It's difficult to to know who it was circulated to specifically. But i think given you know just sort of the the scope of what had happened and the press that it received that frankly provided an opportunity for the company to sort of stake its position in terms of these issues. And i think that that's also important cam because you know this issue is sort of it was kind of a novel thing right Because it was yeah civic to you to zoom which is a relatively new technological tool at least for most people in a in a professional context. So i think it was an opportunity to sort of you know for for conde nast which is a large. You know huge company to sort of st look. Were drawing a line here and we all know that you know the the conduct that to engage specifically is grossly inappropriate in any context. We know this but it also sort of states that you know anything that you might think is borderline inappropriate in a boardroom. For example it is also inappropriate in zoom context. So i think they did sort of have to come out in a in a sort of a forceful fashion and state that position that were not going to condone this type of behavior. Yeah also on the pr side here. It is normal for companies to not comment on something like this publicly because it is a personnel. Ernie chart issue and a lot of a lot of companies will have this in their communications handbook. And say it is a policy of the company not to comment on personnel issues. At all. And i think that's generally good. I think because it sets the expectation upfront. I'm in fact every company. I've worked at or dealt with had a similar policy. But like you say you and in this case it became a news story. And i don't know you know i it does. It does take some consideration about where on that spectrum. Does it trigger A public statement or public comment. Because if it's the receptionist or the janitor who got go if it's somebody else who's less in the public eye you obviously wouldn't say something publicly. Obviously jeffrey toobin is very much in the public lies. So you do say something. But but where's where's the line between the two. That's that's really difficult to say. But i think it should lean more towards Not not speaking publicly about or or hr issues. Yeah the i mean obviously trying to figure out where that line is always going to be going to be tricky and again it's probably going to involve some difficult conversations between people like you and people like me. I mean the other thing that i wanted to touch on here. Cam was the timeline because there is a lot of press That was very very critical of the new yorker and conde nast for taking so long to terminate. We're talking about a time line of stover. Three weeks between the date You know that the incident occurred in the the date that his his termination was announced. I in particular. I came across what i thought was rather silly new york post article that took the position that toobin should have been terminated. Almost immediately sort of given the clear video evidence that they were dealing with a in my take on this kim. I think that position is kind of silly. I think an. I'm you know i understand. There's going to be those. That would would disagree with me on this. And i'm sort of happy to to discuss their comments in future episodes but i you know i think hunting us actually did the right thing here and i think they need they. Did what more businesses need to do in the age of cancel culture and that's to sort of trust the policy and procedures that they've built as a company and stick to them and not just stick to them but stick to them for the low profile cases and even more so for the high profile cases. And if you don't have those clear policies and procedures in place in terms of what's appropriate conduct for employees in what isn't than create them. Circulate them to staff include them with employment agreements during the hiring process. No there needs to be. Transparency is accompanying and transparency for employees to ensure that you know there's consistency in the way that these disciplinary measures are implemented. But i think with the media sort of failed to understand here. Is that when you want to do that properly. In you want to carry out a proper and professional investigation that ensures things like procedural fairness and you know ensuring there's no apprehension of bias that takes time even when you might have you know clear. Video evidence You know the investigators still needs to review the company's policies and procedures it needs to consider any relevant laws or statutes. That might be a play. It needs to were interview. Any the relevant witnesses interviewed the complainant. Interview the respondent. All of these things. Take time cam and you know. We've talked about this before that. Often people are out for blood right away But i think you know companies walk a very very fine line there in terms of sort of jumping the gun with a knee jerk reaction and then taking too long. But i think if you want to show that you're a high brow professional operation you need to take time and conduct a thorough and proper investigation regardless of how clear-cut the evidence may seem to be. Yeah i couldn't agree more on that point. And i think i think you know no matter. What the new yorker did or conde nast did they were going to be criticized criticized for by somebody or by some news organization because if they would have moved quickly somebody would have said that they didn't give tuban enough time or it was too knee jerk. You know like you you just mentioned and i do think there are times where the quick dismissal happens. And we've talked about it on this show in the case of the the racist woman in central park who was harassing a bird watcher. I mean in that case for. I believe it was an broker and investment bank and they let her go right away but in that case they saw immediate threat to the business if they didn't because people were already talking about pulling money and assets out of that account so that's a little different than yorker wasn't under the same kind of pressure i think if they were they may have acted faster So it's not. It's not really a one-size-fits-all. But in general i i completely agree. Take the time necessary to to review. It thoroughly talked to the people involved and make sure that when the decision is made it's defendable in case somebody comes comes after the company afterwards. Check this out. Check this out. Check this out on the pr in law podcast. Aren't you in two things. I wanted to mention today one is The as recline show podcast again. I think this is the third weekend row. That i've i've i've mentioned it But there's a a a new episode. Basically that looks at what's happening with the challenge to the election results. And you know. He has a guest on who is quite versed in sort of democracies that sort of end up going a bit sideways. And it's not about trump and ezra klein says this repeatedly that he finds trump rather uninteresting but what he's interested in is the fact that the gop seems to be falling in line behind this challenge to some degree and how quickly the party fell to trump in general going back to two thousand fifteen two thousand sixteen and what that sort of portends for the future. And it's a it is. It is a i kind of an easy discussion to listen to But i think it's. It's definitely definitely worth worthwhile. And then the second thing quickly is I if you've heard of parlor. This is a conservative version of twitter. It's actually been around since twenty eighteen. And they promise that they're going to be Either not gonna moderate the content in any way and so it's meant to be sort of free speech social network which is kinda then been hijacked by the right and i i logged into it this week. And it's it's very interesting because you you sign in and then asks you know. Would you like to follow these people. It presents like a. Who's who list from the from. The right of sean. Hannity tucker carlson and people along those lines. It's going anyway. This this this services kind of taken off. They've surpassed the one million users mark which is very low compared to other social networks. But it's also double what it was a few weeks ago so it's definitely got some Some some momentum. So there's an article on on par in the wall street journal that i'll i'll post as well. Yeah you know caitlin flanagan from the atlantic cam. Arsov that she was on a bill maher this week and they're you know the the issue of parlor came up and she made a really good point right. I thought was really good point anyway. Talking about how you know. We've got to get the two sides in the united states. Back to the table together And the media has to do a better job as well and you know flanagan with sort of making argument that on election night the vast majority of coverage it was like you know in the those early hours when it looked like trump was going to win. We're basically in in tears across that we're and we're looking for anything that might be indicative of you know that indicative of pro biden results and flanagan was saying you know. What do you expect. You've got a substantial portion of the population. I mean more more as we know what seventy one million voters that voted for trump approximately. I think This isn't this isn't like a drop in the bucket and you can understand why these individuals might be incredibly frustrated with mainstream media and the reality is is that if we don't create a means for everybody to play nice together than what's going to happen is we're going we're going to have parlor right if twitter gets to a place where no we're not going to permit certain conservative voices that we deem to be inappropriate or unacceptable. They're just going to go elsewhere They're not going to go away. And i thought that flanagan really sort of hit the nail on the head there that it's not about whether or not you agree or disagree. It's about the fact that were there all americans and they have to come together and try and find some meeting of the minds. Yeah and we talked about this on a previous show about the the the media And how partisan it seems to have become. I'm definitely on board with everything you just said and i did see flanagan on on bill maher. I'll link to that as well in the show notes to take a look But it it's bad at it. And i go if i'm a conservative if i really feel strongly about president trump and i support him. You don't see your views reflected anywhere and the mainstream media. It's not just fox news and then the the other organizations that are even further sort of on the right you have to go there and those are by nature much smaller In the mainstream there's just nothing and this is. This is why i do hold the big news organizations in the partly responsible for donald trump being elected in the first place and it looks like nothing has been learned. Absolutely nothing has been learned and flanagan's right in the sense that trump supporters aren't going anywhere. I mean biden will take the white house and they're still going to be there and it's going to be an issue for for years to come unless there's some some effort made to to resolve it but i think it's It's going to be extremely difficult. I'm not holding my breath. Well fair enough. Fair enough I wanted to talk him about And this isn't a particular article there. Lots of articles but just the new story in general of Kim on who is named the general manager of major league. Baseball's miami marlins this week making her the first woman to hold position in the four major north american professional. Sports leagues Me that's huge huge news or I feel like it should be bigger news than what it is You know lots of great stuff written about this and then unfortunately some some not so great stuff written about this but for those who aren't familiar with her and frankly i wasn't cam was not. I have to admit she. She got started with the chicago. White sox all the way back in nineteen ninety so You know she's been around for very very long time. She worked for the organization till ninety six and then in ninety eight she joined the yankees and was there during their world series runs. She then moved onto the dodgers from two thousand to two thousand eleven and was in the The commissioner's office the mlb commissioners office from two thousand eleven till twenty twenty. So the game for a very very very long time and has been incredibly successful And i found this story sort of just really grabbed my interest and i was reading all kinds of news reports from different sources and on twitter and was really a kind of disappointed once again with Just sort of the inherent sexism misogyny that continues to permeate the sports world as most conservative. Just stupid comments. You know a lot of men you know saying she should stay in her lane. You know chalked up the decision to you know liberal pandering and gender quotas just really really really ignorant stuff particularly given just how long Kim hung has been kicking ass. It professional sports by the sounds of it. Yeah that's that is an interesting story. And i did hear that. Just just recently. I think sports we've talked about sports too. I mean it's very conservative. An image issue i think females are now more common on sports broadcasts in canada and the us but even that came very late and then you talk about just being conservative. I mean the columbus blue jackets in the nhl hired a finnish general manager several years ago and that was big news because it was the first time someone was hired from overseas. So i mean even before we get to sort of females in these roles right now. They're kind of picking executives from the same small pool of north american sports men. And so there's a long way to go here and i do think that this is important. I think it's it's a it's a role model. You know for for other females and it's gonna make the next team to do it Probably more More calm or more less anxious about hiring a female because the first one has now been hired and so now. It's hopefully not as big of a deal going forward. Well yeah and here's the thing but this is one of those double edged swords right. Where yes this should be a big deal and then at the same time. It really really shouldn't be a big deal because she got the job because she was the best qualified person person for moving gender pronouns. She was the most qualified person for the job. And i think we have to try to get to that place where you know. We're not just focusing on the fact that yes. She's a woman. She's a visible minority. How about the fact that she was the best qualified individual for the role and that's why she was given the role In this idea that it was liberal pandering or she was there for gender gender quotas. No she was there because she's the best person for the job and having now done some background on who she was. That certainly seems to be the case. Yeah i agree totally anything else. You want to add before we wrap this one up. No that's it that was It was a lot of fun and again. Just so great. Having simon on the show You know we have these wonderful guests. And i wish i could just have them on speed. Dial to get advice. What i needed just fantastic. I do have simon on speed. Dial and i do call him frequently actually so i work with him fairly closely. So i'll call you and you can call simon. We can we can figure it out that way. Yeah he was absolutely great. Thanks again simon. Simon murphy from joining us today. So yeah it was. It was a good show. We discussed all kinds of interesting topics today. So don't miss any future episode either. We hope there's good as this one. You can subscribe in your podcast app of choice or to our youtube and soundcloud channels and you can follow us on social media as well facebook instagram twitter and linked in and our newsletter. Very proud of our newsletter. You can sign up for that of pr law. Podcast dot club to get notification when new episodes drop and other show so once again for you and christie this chemic- murcia light it up. 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How can I grow an herb garden in the kitchen?

Your Gardening Questions

03:06 min | 8 months ago

How can I grow an herb garden in the kitchen?

"She asked Do i have to have a grow light to grow an herb garden indoors or can i do it narrow window. Well mark I know it can be done near a window however to be what i'm gonna call positively successful. I think she needs to go with the grow. Light happens. That i just the other day i was in a home. Where the There is a glass wall if you will but it's faces north and because there is no direct light in that and no really intensity to the light She has gone to a grill arrangement. That is A wooden structure that has a bulb in the top of it. She has eight pots of various herbs. interestingly enough both the curly and flat parsley and then iraq etc etc and i. I can't remember when i was told this was going to happen. That it can't be much more than a month and a half that those pots were were filled the seeds planted and lori. They're growing like crazy under this situation. Now i know of a couple of situations where south windows when when you carefully handle turning the pots and so on and as long as there's no register under the window and so on i think it could be done with what we'll call metro light but i i'm almost certain should be happier Small well yeah. Call it a small expenditure. I believe the lady told me this was around one hundred fifty dollars for the pots soil. Trae that they sit on the light bulb the whole sch- meal. And i know she's having fantastic success to the point. She's almost gonna have to waste a little bit of the herbs to keep them short enough and bushy enough because they're trying to grow right up through the top of the whole thing right now but Yes plants can be grown in natural light. I would say in east south or west window by far if you're gonna try to do it without light It is extra lights but the success rate will be measurably greater. If if she can go with a an indoor light contraption now you could do it on l. through natural light aided with i'm gonna call it a shop light. It would be kind of crude looking ahead of the ranger fan. I used to use the start seeds in the basement or a little table Shop light on chain and cetera. it did work however I'm quite comfortable. That this arrangement of as i say i think it was around one hundred fifty bucks Maybe two hundred but it makes an expensive urban away but it's the more sure way of getting something of value to us in the kitchen.

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Can I Plant 'Blue Rug' Junipers Close to My House?

Your Gardening Questions

02:07 min | 4 months ago

Can I Plant 'Blue Rug' Junipers Close to My House?

"We also had a question from kind of in the same vein. She says we want to plant something along. The north side of our home is blue. Rug juniper a good choice or will the roots cause problems up close to the house with the roots will cause no problems. And i'll come back to that but at the same time. North is a negative. I just mentioned using junipers in the sun. They almost have to have We'll call it that half day of sun six hours now that qualifies as a whole day of sun. But i can't. I can't recommend the blue rug in that situation. Now it's a fantastic plant for that use and then coming back to this business. A will the roots bother most homes. Roofline has an overhang and it is not uncommon for it to be very dry from about. Well let's just say the wall of the home or the basement wall out to eighteen twenty four inches Therefore you'd have to water to keep them going in an east south or west exposure but on north. I don't think that the blue rug will get enough sun to do a good job in the first place so there are again many plants. They might be a little taller and and perhaps won't look as groomed but the first thing that comes to my mind is i have a similar situation and i have used one of the. It's called sage. it looks like Well it it looks like a lily leaf to a certain degree there are greenleaf to there. Are stripe leaves minor stripe leaped and i have it growing both in full sun and then also on the very well right adjacent to the north exposure of the house and a fence. And it's doing just fine so there are better options than the blue rug for that situation.

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In a class, by themselves: pupils head back to school

The Economist: The Intelligence

22:59 min | 11 months ago

In a class, by themselves: pupils head back to school

"Welcome, to the intelligence on economist Radio, I'm your host Jason Palmer every weekday we provide a fresh perspective on the events shaping your world. Dubai is a striking place steel and glass Alexis a playground of the wealthy. But a lot of the money that sloshes through isn't the cleanest that will have to change if the city wants to keep its position as a global financial hub. An lockdowns shuffled lots of habits in Britain one trend became clear people more books, and they tended to read classics. Big Weighty ones. It seems the habit has stock that is affecting the new titles jostling, for shelf, space. First up though. Some nine million children in England are going back to school this week. Among them eleven year old Joseph. He's moving from primary to secondary school daunting event in itself. Let alone during a pandemic. is like going from being the biggest kids to being the smallest kids again? Like all school children, Joseph will also have to deal with newly imposed safety rules including one way systems and year group bubbles. Bus? We're GONNA have to masks because it's quite closely packed. If you're having school dinners, you have to take your lunch and go and sit either outside or classroom because they're not using the school whole. Parents and face fines if they don't send their children to school Boris Johnson Britain's prime minister described it as a moral duty. This fom risked the well being of our children from not going to school. Then there is I'm afraid from the disease in America, there's also been a political push to reopen schools, but the doors of many buildings will remain closed threatening to deepen the educational inequalities that the pandemic has exposed. Most. American school districts plan to send soon back to school in the Autumn Increase Choline. Is Our policy correspondent. that. Didn't happen because the risks sort of extraordinary resurgence of the virus in summer, and now it looks increasingly unsafe to send kids to school as was once planned. So what's the plan now? With that means is that of the fifty largest school districts in America. Right now, thirty five are planning to start the coming term entirely remotely. The problem there is that we know from the evidence from passage occasional disruptions, and even what happened in the spring that continued disruption of forcing kids to go to school virtually will not always spell permanent learning loss for. All students generally, but will increase the already wide educational disparities that exist in America between rich students in portions in between white students and Asian students and Black Hispanic students who tend to worse on things like standardized tests and graduation rates and the death of this could be quite severe. So do we have a sense of just how significant that learning loss will be? We have some estimates. There are a lot of disruptions happening at the same time. They're union strike circuits not going to school, but the estimate from Mackenzie, which is a consultancy found that if students didn't return to in person instruction until January twenty, twenty one which looks increasingly likely that the average student would suffer seven months of learning loss and that gets worse as you look at the saints who come from disadvantaged backgrounds and for black students, they estimated that this would be about ten months of loss and for poor ones as he received subsidized lunch, they would fall behind by more than A. Year, and probably it will also increase the number of dropouts could be as many six, hundred and fifty, thousand more. It could also affect soon. So are in educational transitions between High School and college say or are debating whether or not to continue college, and of course, the people who are most likely to make those decisions that adversely affect their lifetime earnings and income in all sorts of other outcomes are the ones who already are coming from disadvantaged backgrounds who are able to take advantage of the counseling and all the support that they might be able to get if they were attending school in. person. And that's simply a reflection of the fact that online learning is simply not as good as the real thing. That's a really big part of it when education scholars have looked at previous attentive virtual education by studying, for example, charter schools that were all virtual. Pretty significantly reduced scores in basically every subject that they looked at, and then before you even get to the quality of the online learning, there's just a simple problem of accessing those classes themselves nearly half of native American. Students in thirty five percent of black and Hispanic ones they'll have access to a computer of their own or Internet at home. Whites, it's much less. It's only twenty percent but what about the argument that perhaps kids should go back to in person learning just to avoid that kind of loss? I mean that has been a very much a hot button issue certainly here in Britain and also in the states, right? It's gotten very polarized obviously, donald trump wants and has been pushing aggressively for students to return to school because he sees returned to normalcy as a key driver of his reelection prospects. Indefinite school closures will inflict lasting harm to our nation's children. We must follow the science and get students safely back to school while protecting children, teachers, staff, and failing you see within school district's themselves. Those that are in Republican states are more likely to be the kinds of school district said continue within person learning even levels don't look to be entirely contained any democratic states. There are much more likely to keep students at home even virus Comparatively controlled you add to that the politicization that the unions bring into this where in New York, for example, where it was one of the actually diffuse large school districts that was planning to bring students back in person the unions concerns over the safety of its members has led the school district to delay opening by eleven days. So you know within cities across states in even nationally, the politicization of school reopenings has been pretty deep in this country and what about the the epidemiological argument that the question from the start has been the degree to which this danger to kids in the degree to which kids are a danger to adults. Well, we know so far is that for young children covid nineteen doesn't appear to be very large threat. They usually have mild symptoms if they get it at all, we know the older children that the risk of transmission seems to be higher, and indeed if you look at the American University's that have tried to bring back in person instruction, many of them have had to embarrassingly canceled revert back. To remote learning. Now, the big problem that people worry about is even if you have impersonal primary instruction for young children that have this could see transmission to staff members and to families who might become sick and you're some encouraging evidence in England basically only saw zero point zero, one percent preschools having covid nineteen outbreaks in June and in some places where they try to reopen secondary schools. Like France Israel, they seem to have ceded some infections and so they've stayed shut there as well. But it does seem like there's a pretty big age disparity in terms of the risk to teachers and in America. There's this other problem. High schools tend to be a bit more tightly packed than primary schools in elementary schools in. So oftentimes, it's just not feasible to reopen high school because he. Wouldn't be able to seat students a social distance manner as you can with young children, and so the spectacle of four year olds, masks and plexiglass shields is going to be I think a bit more common in America, and so how how do you see this playing out that with all of these data just now coming in and then all of these negative outcomes competing against one another. Because America's squandered is chance to suppress the virus in the summer school districts now are placed in a really tough choice between the education of its students and the health of its teachers. I don't see those choices becoming any easier. Idrees. Thanks very much for joining us. Having. This economist podcast is sponsored by up work up work is the world's largest remote talent platform devs, designers, writers, strategist you name it find higher pay all in one place whatever skills your scope demands upward is how need to find coders outside of your area code and Seo specialist for six weeks or a UI designer through December pros available, Short or long term one time or as often as you need them and they're proven rated and reviewed when you need in demand talent on demand up work is. Gays and Tobias towering skyscrapers or it's glitzy hotels and it's hard to imagine that in the nineteen fifties, it was little more than a fishing village with just twenty thousand people and no airport today. It's financial center is a super regional champion serving as a gateway for investment from and to the Middle East South Asia and Africa Could also has a reputation as a haven for dirty money used by KLEPTOCRATS, money launderers, and other narrow dwells. If to bite wants to join the likes of Hong Kong and Singapore in the Premier League financial centers it's going to have to make a few changes. Device financial center began takeoff round the nineteen nineties, and today it's recognized as being the biggest. The leading vanishes engine. The Middle East Mathew Valencia is our Deputy Business Affairs Editor Called strong trade transport links as well, which supports a financial offering. So it's called the busiest port in the Middle East. It's Scott the busiest airport in the world for international passengers. and. So when you put all of that together in Dubai, basically got the closest thing to a Singapore Hong Kong style entrepreneur in the region. So what is it that drove devise rise in particular as a financial hub? Well, the financial push has been driven very much from the ruler of Dubai down and the key to the Bush ready was free trade zone called the Dubai. International. Financial. Center it's one of Iran thirty, thirty five sun shines in Dubai and forty hard in the United Arab Emirates. It's a site in the centre of Dubai. It's about one hundred, one, hundred and ten acres. It was set up around fifteen years ago. The idea was to boost. Dubai as a destination for investment, but also as kind of financial waystation to channel money to other parts of the region. And the. As it's known has grown into quite impressive cluster of banks for management firms, law firms, and it's a success for growing financial ecosystem. If you work in finance in the Middle East, the most desirable place to be Dubai, and that's because of the financial hub but it's also because of the fact that Dubai has the best shopping in the region and the finest dining but aside from the glitzy shopping and like why do companies want to have that presence there? What is the DIFC's appeal? I think a big part of the appeal lies in the fact that it's allowed to have its own tax and regulatory regime and that separate from the national laws of the UA. So this is something the free zones in the country get to do get to set their own rules. So tax in owns is either low existent for instance, unlike for business undertaken elsewhere in the country outside zones, they can allow foreigners full ownership of firms. They can also avoid having to set local hiring quotas. The DIFC also has its own regulator which is called the Financial Services Authority. And probably even more important than that. It has its own judicial system. The DIFC's courts hear cases in. English, and this is really important. So it's a sort of private court system in a way and it's efficient and it's predictable and that makes it popular with host of investors whose home countries legal systems. Bit less dependable. So on that basis, do you think the DIFC will just keep growing and growing? Well, it's GonNa go for it and the rules continue to push it very hard as a financial center, but it faces a number of challenges in the short term. One of the problems is that the economy is very vulnerable to Kobe nineteen. It's more relying on sectors which had been hit by social distancing. and. On top of all of that, it's struggling very high public debt, which could be as much as one hundred, forty percent, of GDP, which is a very high level relative to most countries. Had A debt crisis at random decade ago during the global financial meltdown, and now there's talk of another crisis and then you no longer term challenges. Well, one is the oil price stays low for a long time. It could really hurt Dubai I would say that the biggest threats probably come from within what do you mean by that? I guess the biggest of all is to buys Achy to you money. If you look at the big global or regional, see regional financial centers around the world Dubai's probably the shadiest of them. It's become a well-known haven for money that needs laundering for money is linked to sanctions-busting funds which had been stolen. By kleptocrats in in Africa and elsewhere, and as a result seeing by quite a few experts is being one of the biggest holes if not the biggest hole in global anti money laundering system and is that an accident or by design I mean we we have a financial center that has its own judicial system and regulator, and so on it, it could easily be a wild west. It seems that it's not all accident. Dubai's jurisdiction is one of the most uncooperative quite often they just don't get back to foreign governments and he helped with investigations tool, and then if you look on the tax front, the US was accused a few years ago. Tax evaders from other countries to stick their undeclared money in its banks and companies. So all of this together seems to suggest that there's a blind eye of source being turned or perhaps worse. You know the Dubai sees taking dodgy money is some sort of a competitive advantage. I did put this to the US Finance Ministry and Central Bank but both declined to comment. It hasn't that reputation drawn interest of regulators overseers elsewhere will it has for quite a long time but also for a long not lock happened in terms of reform, we're seeing some signs that things starting to change in the past year or so I would say there's is a very important body financial action task force and that sets global anti-money laundering standards, and it issued a fan stinging report on the United Arab Emirates earlier this year and is now reportedly placed the country under year long observation to check on whether it's going to implement anti money laundering laws which you who are being passed, and if it fails to do that it. Could be added to the F.. ATS. Grey list. Now, you have countries on that that include the likes of Syria and Zimbabwe and it's just one step away from full blacklisting. A full blacklisting would effectively require international banks to stop doing business with Dubai. So that's extremely serious, but I don't think it will come to that because to pies rulers no the risks if Dubai's financial links to the banking centers threatened, they will take action at which point. I guess we would learn whether or not being okay. With dodgy money is in fact a competitive advantage I mean, how do you think things will go if it really does clean up its act? Didn't lose some business on the other hand, it will still have advantages. So I think as long as the United Arab Emirates and Dubai remain stable in a region this basically volatile than benefit from capital flight. You saw during the Arab spring almost a decade ago, and at the moment is said to be quite a lot of money coming in from Lebanon and then you have. Strategic News if you're looking to other parts of the world so Dubai's leaders worked very hard to strengthen links with the Chinese. So I think despite the challenges, there's plenty of war the people who run the financial center divide to be optimistic about they have a very ambitious plan to double triple in size by twenty thirty, and I'm not sure that I would necessarily bet against that. Thanks very much for joining US Matthew. Thank you Jason. Travel has been hard during the pandemic, but all it takes a little imagination to be transported to the shores of Greece's Ionian islets after returning from a long war. Or to a serene and lonely hebridean lighthouse. Or Two gothic castle in the Carpathian mountains of Transylvania. Many of us have found refuge in classic novels during lockdowns. To strike myself from Corona virus. I thought I'd finally pick up George Elliott's nineteenth century masterpiece middle march unfortunately for me. It also has a pandemic plotline. Read, Barnaby Rudge by Charles Dickens, which is probably his least popular novel zero. One of his complete ones. I. Haven't read. I. Read Pride and Prejudice With my club. It was just really lovely because it was kind of about some D. he's very isolated and it made us feel a lot better. Books great especially during periods like this to say strange feeling ARAGO economists culture correspondent, this has been particularly visible in recent months quite a surprise really when you think that people who've been working from home and they've been educating their children at home but they have found time to read as well and mostly they have gone back to the classics. The classics in particular I think there's a sense that they are books that have stood the test of time but that's only partly the answer I think one of the big things is the feeling that generations of readers have gone before you. Those are the books that people seem to be taking down off their shelves, dusting off and trying out we have Boris Johnson Gang on holiday saying he's going to read Roman poet Lucretia. So tending towards pretty ambitious books I suppose but we're in the post lockdown era here. Do you think these habits have stock will stick according to some recent research? Brits not only read almost twice as many hours per week as they had been reading before lockdown but It really seems to have stuck at least a third of respondents have said they're reading more than lockdown and only a tenth of those asked said, they are now reading less. So I think books are it for the moment, which is to say publishers are having a field day publishes having a very, very good time. Particularly, publishers who have a backlist of classics were seeing great successes. Harpercollins is bringing forward an idea that they have been thinking about for a while to re-launch Master and commander Patrick O'Brian series of two thousand, eighteen holes set against the background of the map bionic wars that I started being published fifty years ago. Now, when they originally came out, they were books for chaps who liked. Naval warfare cutlasses will kind of thing, and they are being completely repackaged because of the trend of women reading a great deal more fiction than men pass social commentary about friendship about loyalty, laugh confinement, less horatio hornblower, and more Jane Austen at sea, and so with all this focus. Then on the classics effect on New Books, well, it's been very, very hard for new books. So a lot of books that we're going to come out in the spring in early summer pushed into the autumn. But for fast time novelists, it's very difficult. They don't have name recognition for longtime. There weren't bookshops in which you could browse and see whether you like the look of something and of course book festivals which. Was the place where you often met new novelist for the first time they've all gone on nine and you have to register and you have to buy tickets. Therefore, you tend to go to the things that you recognize. If you don't know north as name, it's really really hard. Do you see yourself in these data here? Are you reading more and if so what are you reading? Oh Jason. You know me I have a great weakness for fiction from Africa a writer who I have discovered for the first time who is completely fantastic. Probably the finest novelist from Botswana her name is betsy head and in the late sixties and early seventies she wrote an autobiographical trilogy of Novels. When rain clouds gather. Really about being an artist about the struggle against apartheid in South Africa about suffering from mental illness, it sounds very heavy going but she's a beautiful writer those anybody that I would take a friend by the elbow you must read this it's Bessie. Thanks very much for joining us. And happy breeding. Thank you. Thank you, Jason. That's all for this episode of the Intelligence. If you like us give a rating on Apple podcasts and you can subscribe to the economist at economist Dot com slash intelligence offer see back here tomorrow. This is a cast recommends every week we pick one of our favorite shows and this is one. We think you'RE GONNA love. Let's get real have you ever wondered why adults are so obsessed with Disney I've seen park journalists, Carly Wiesel, and I'm my new podcast very amusing. 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