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Axios Producing Four Part Series on Vladimir Putin
"Axios has done a four part series one Putin who he is how it came to power I just want to read you a little bit of this The KGB to the Kremlin Pugh was a mid level KGB officer in Dresden East Germany when the Berlin Wall fell in 1989 Weeks later in the tumult that preceded the collapse of the USSR crowd stormed the local secret police headquarters and Putin spent a tense night waiting for orders from Moscow that never came He returned to Russia and became a close aide first to sobchak and St. Petersburg and later to yeltsin in Moscow It was little noticed in Russia or brought until yeltsin appointed him director of the KGB successor The FSB in 1998 The year later he was prime minister four months after that on New Year's Eve 1999 yeltsin resigned in Putin's rise was complete Michael mcfaul who served as U.S. ambassador to Russia under Obama crossed paths with Putin and St. Petersburg in the 90s Behind the scenes former defense secretary Ash Carter was in several meetings with the top Russian official in the 90s He was an assistant Secretary of Defense Even Putin's critics acknowledged that he has accomplished three central objectives budding a strong Russian state reestablishing Russia as a global power and maintaining his own grip on power Nonetheless and then a couple of months of his appointment as prime minister became the figure on whom the last hopes of so many Russians were pinned
It's Time to Rethink Germany's Relationship With NATO
"You have crystallized what I've been trying to articulate. Germany has been a better ally to Russia in the last two months than they have been to NATO. I think they have de facto exited NATO. And I talked to a former senior Trump administration national security expert who tells me they're just reverting to their historical great power in the central of Europe, neither east nor west, but trying to run everything, and they don't care about China. You agree with that assessment? Regrettably, I think there's a lot of truth in that. And when this Ukraine crisis has passed, I think it's time for fundamental reassessment of our bilateral relationship with Jeremy. For instance, we've got all the troops in Germany and it's understandable why they were there during Cold War because the iron current curtain ran right through the middle of Germany, separating west and East Germany. But I think there's good reason to question whether we need those troops in Germany anymore, whether it would be better served by having them in a country that's more reliably, supportive of America, and also closer to the front lines, the country like no long, for instance.
End of an era: Germany's Merkel bows out after 16 years
"It's it's the the end end of of an an era era Germany's Germany's Angela Angela Merkel Merkel bows bows out out of of two two sixteen sixteen years years at at the the helm helm Merkel Merkel a a full full the the scientist scientist who who grew grew up up in in communist communist East East Germany Germany is is bowing bowing out out about about a a week week short short of of the the record record for for longevity longevity held held by by her her one one time time mentor mentor Helmut Helmut Kohl Kohl who who reunited reunited Germany Germany during during his his nineteen nineteen eighty eighty two two to to ninety ninety eight eight to to ten ten year year medical medical serve serve the the long long side side four four U. U. S. S. presidents presidents for for French French president president five five British British prime prime ministers ministers and and eighty eighty Talian Talian premieres premieres her her
Author Rebekah Koffler: Putin and Russia Are Not America's Friends
"We are back with the author of the fabulous new book. Glimpse inside putin's russia. It's called putin's playbook. Her name is rebecca rebecca. I want to know in the time we have left. What's essentially different about russia. And what do we need to know about vlad. So basically russia is driven by fear that i it's strategic culture can be characterized as having a presupposition of conflict. It has surrounded exactly. it's always encircled surrounded. It always has viewed the united states as its principal threat. It even has code defied it in its military doctrine placing the requirement on the armed forces to develop a strategy and a weapons portfolio to counter the threat so putin is absolutely no one who should be trusted. How important is it that this man who basically installed himself as a as a new emperor is a former. Kgb colonel who served in east germany. How important is that to understanding russia. It is extremely important to know that you were inside. The the pentagon right Reset relationships is just something is. That's absolutely unachievable thing you can have normalized relations with putin is crazy. It is absolutely crazy. And it's a shame that our national security apparatus does not have this basic understanding and keeps pushing. This wishful thinking policy of reese adds. That is absolutely unrealistic. Putin will never be america's friend. Russia will never be america's friend. It has no friends.
"east germany" Discussed on Monocle 24: The Briefing
"I'm andrew miller coming up on today's program a looming regional election in germany causing nerves. To jangle ahead of a national vote later this year increasing pressure for another postponement of the tokyo olympics. Will money talk louder than science later in the show. I'm nolan jarl's monica senior editor. And i've flown in all the way from zurich to promote our beautiful new book the monocle book of homes. More from olen lighter and we will have our weekly wrap up of what we have learned since this time last friday. That's all coming up right here on the briefing on monocle. Twenty four and welcome to today's edition of the briefing with me and ramallah on sunday citizens of the german state of saxony anhalt will go to the polls in the last regional election before the entire country votes later this year. Unsurprisingly the sucks any on hold vote vote rather is causing considerable excitement among cephlon just pundits and other such rune readers attempting to gauge the mood of the nation. The portents are it is fair to say discouraging for the christian democratic union of outgoing chancellor angela merkel and indeed everyone disquieted by the spectacle of far right your who's gathering momentum some polls have the alternative for germany party in first place joined with more on this by manacles. News editor christian And by quentin. Peel associate fellow at chatham houses europe program and former financial times correspondent in berlin. Chris come to you first these polls in saxony anhalt anhalt are the really that concerned. I mean the writer i was about to add. I realize is actually no help to assault. When i say doesn't the. Ifp always do quite well in this part of germany. That's not actually that reassuring itself is it that in itself is not reassuring no but Perhaps to two point it what you're getting at if we're looking at whether this is portends well or badly for the september general elections. It's always important of course to say that you know regional. There are regional differences. That don't necessarily extend to the national stage and that's particularly true. I would say In this case the the afdc alternative for germany Last time around in these regional elections in saxony. I'm high had an amazing result. Already of over twenty percent twenty four percent. They're expected to hold that this time around. So it's not really in that sense of story of them gaining if you will and when it comes to nationally they're actually at least long current polls expected to fall a little bit in that september election so in that sense. The story is really a bit more about the christian. Democrats the ruling party in germany. They're the ones that are struggling. And they're the ones that would hope to gain some kind of momentum from regional like this and the fact that have not seen any benefits If you will. They're expected to to hold their own just about maybe fall a little bit in their support insects neon how that's the kind of the story that's also then going to continue to feed their troubles nationally. That's the fact that you know. I think people are going to take away from this because they have a week leader nationally and lashes. Who hasn't pulled very well And yeah in terms of saxony anhalt itself. It's this sort of ongoing story with an eastern germany where there is a strong far-right presence at this point with the alternative for germany. And then you have. All the other parties forming the sort of bulwark against them. There's a coalition there right now of christian democrats social democrats and the greens all together in one government like a unity government against the right and they're just about holding their own quentin just to expand on that a bit. If this is more a case of the cd you votes tanking vote rather tanking than afdc. Actually increasing would a good result for afdc on sunday nevertheless make The cd you nervous about. What might be happening to the national. Vote eight word. I think but. I would caution against overrating it. We're not seeing a swing to the isd It's looking like pedaling. Pretty much what it did last time normally seeing a collapse in the christian democrat vote. That's holding up at about thirty percent and its the christian. Democrats tope the po. Which the moment all. But one of the opinion polls suggesting. Then i think i mean lash it the The new cd leader and candidate for chancellor after angular macro. I think he might come away from this election somewhat reassured but he these nervous time because these elections do show that the politics of the old east germany. Oh very different to the politics of west germany. The two sides of the country A not sitting together in in happy home and actually just to follow that up quickly. Quentin yo doubtless aware of the comments by knock on defeats the cd us. Commissioner for the eastern states needs from east germany himself but he has said recently that he thinks some parts of east. Germany are as he put it past. Hope as as far as becoming members of a democracy is concerned that a commonly held view. Well it certainly is a view that exists but actually the communist east germany. Never do anything. If you like to. D nazi fi become whereas in west. Germany was a really comprehensive asset to To to bring younger people in the population run to realize the iniquitous of of the nazi regime in east germany. It really didn't happen that baps. Why there's still this residue of quite strong support for the Right in east. Germany and suspicion of democracy and it hasn't been helped by the fact that he's germany has been languishing economically ever since unification chris one of the other major narratives about the looming federal election in germany is the The idea or perhaps even expectation that this is going to be a very big election for the greens who could even conceivably end up in government. Is this election on sunday. Going to tell us anything at all about that or afdc more the default opposition in this part of germany. Well i think it will tell us something about that. It won't in terms of the national polling as we discussed in part because the greens also are not very strong in saxony anhalt. They're pulling low below ten percent and that's so they're not going to be part of this story what i would say though that i think is interesting. Is it kind of shows the bind that in lush as this sort of centrist successor to who finds himself in. Because it's it's in a way a strange that you feel the cd. You is the one party that is kind of stuck in this this middle corner where the greens in anonyna- bareback are the fresh centrist voice. If you will. They've moved they've sort of tacked to the right a little bit if you will The last few years to show themselves as a competent party that can govern And that's voters are responding to that to some degree..
What Happened To Berlin After the Second World War?
"The end of world war two signaled and unsure future for the defeated germany. Between the alta and potsdam peace conferences it was decided to split germany into four allied zones the eastern part of the country going to the soviet union to control and the western parts going to the united states britain and eventually france west germany was technically the boondocks republik deutschland or federal republic of germany and east germany was the jewish democratic republic german democratic republic or gd are despite berlin sitting entirely in the eastern part of the country. And i constantly have to remind myself. That berlin was nowhere near the east west divide. The city was also divided into similar zones. The mere existence of west berlin a conspicuously capital city deep within the communist east germany quote stuck like a bone in the soviet throat according to soviet leader nikita khrushchev so tenuous where the relations between the east and west that russia began plotting to drive the us britain and france out of berlin for good in nineteen forty eight. A soviet blockade of west berlin was set up blocking off all rail and road access in an effort to starve the western allies out of the city. In one of the most dramatic standoffs in the history of the cold war the berlin blockade saw the us and its allies supplying their sectors of the city from the air known as the berlin airlift. The allied nations flew in more than two point. Three million tons of food fuel and other supplies over the course of a year until the soviets finally gave up an the blockade things. Were relatively calm for a while. But in the late nineteen fifties. The soviets noticed a trend. Developing people saw how life on the capitalist side was recovering faster than life on the communist side. Not to mention there were a lot fewer spies keeping tabs on regular folks on the western side and people began to emigrate. This was especially true of doctors. Scientists and skilled professionals resulting in a serious brain drain in the east got worse year. Over year khrushchev ordered the east german government to stop the flow of emigrants for good on the night of the twelfth nineteen sixty one in one night barbed wire barriers blockade and even some sections of brick and mortar wall were constructed. It was later reinforced multiple times to become an impenetrable twelve footer. Three point seven meter high concrete wall. Roughly one hundred miles or one hundred and sixty one kilometer. Long complete with no-man's-land. Landmines guard dogs guard towers and checkpoints the relatively fluid border which had until that point allowed some sixty thousand east germans to commute daily to good paying jobs in the west visit. Family and friends attend soccer games and so on was gone with no warning. Whatever side of the border you went to sleep on on august twelve. That was where you stayed for the next twenty eight years. This opposing structure didn't stop people from trying to make a great escape to the west. Roughly one hundred and seventy one people. Some of them defecting soviet soldiers lost their lives trying to cross the border but over five thousand more succeeded and some of them got really creative with it but the first person to cross that foreboding line just hopped over it when the wall was three days old much of it was not actually a wall at all but sections of barb wire fence though with soldiers and police to enforce it one of those was eighteen year old. Conrad shuman stationed at the corner of bernauer. Stresa and opener stresa. He might have been young but he could tell which way the wind was blowing. He wanted out of the gdr like now he pays his feet nervously while chain smoking and occasionally pushing down the barbed wire coil. It was only two feet high. While the other guards were distracted by a gathering crowd shuman swapped out his loaded. Submachine gun for an unloaded and therefore lighter one at four. Pm shoe inflict away. His cigarette took a running start and deathly leapt over the barrier dropping. His gun and just leaving it. As he was whisked into a waiting west german police car a west german journalist captured the leap to freedom in what would become one of the most famous images of the wall until nineteen eighty nine. The west loves shuman but many of the people he left behind considered him to be a lowly traitor even after he was reunited with his family after the fall of the wall a generation later many people still shunned him as a deserter. Shuman was the first soldier from the national people's army to escape. But it's estimated that twenty seven hundred east. German soldiers and policemen followed his example. If someone had turned your home into a prison then you should treat it like a prison and start digging a tunnel in nineteen sixty four thirty students from west berlin spent several months digging a four hundred and seventy six foot or one hundred and forty five meter long tunnel tell people in the east escape one assumes they had to crawl to freedom because the tunnel was only about three feet high less than forty eight hours after it was finished the stasi the german border patrol discovered it but not before fifty seven men women and children had managed to escape. Which i assume is why. It's referred to as tunnel fifty seven
"east germany" Discussed on KQED Radio
"With widespread preference fortification. Now the phenomenon can be hard to spot because people don't go around waving a flag, saying that they're fortifying their preferences. The point, after all is to misrepresent how you really feel, but one way to spot it is when one regime comes to an end, and a new one suddenly springs up in its place. That's what happened in East Germany in 1989 when the Berlin Wall came down. Thousands of east Germans came across the border today, perhaps more than 100,000. So many that border police lost count. So two more You've done some work looking at the Soviet Union and the satellite states of the Soviet Union before and after, In some ways, the demise off the Berlin Wall. In east Germany. What did we see? Before the wall came down? What did we see? After the wall came down? Before the wall came down. East Germans were almost unanimously supporting theme the pervading regime. They were very, very few dissidents. After the wall came down very few people would actually admit to having bean sincere supporters of the regime that felt it became hazardous to admit that one sincerely believed in the regime. Mm. And you see the same thing, of course, another in other countries, which not necessarily divided on you know, on the lines of communism, which is capitalism, you know. After Saddam Hussein fell in Iraq, it was hard to find people who are fans of Saddam Hussein. When a few weeks earlier, it was very hard to find critics of Saddam Hussein in Iraq and probably the same thing in China before and after the revolution. You see the same patterns and in other countries, too. Absolutely and in China, the people who had supported the cultural Revolution wholeheartedly denied that they did that. After the regime fell in Iraq, people serving Saddam. We're doing so for the same reason that many checks and many East Germans and many poles Served their communist regimes without believing in the regime. There was preference falsification in Iraq, too. Of course, it's difficult after a regime change occurs to separate.
"east germany" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"Been so messy. Yes, and it went through terrorist periods. Yes, that nobody remembers. You know, generational terrorism. And that what we're seeing now, which doesn't surprise me at all is that where history was not taught in East Germany, and I spent half a year at a university in East Germany, and they learned that Fascism and the Holocaust were all about the capitalist West on that, they it was not their inheritance, and it had nothing to do with Eastern Germans, and that's where you have thes. You know the alternative of fur Deutschland? That the new Yeah, the moment that would kind of roll back What looks like the progress was Germany has made its not on ly based there, but that's where it has had it its foothold. Will you point to Something really important. We need to remember that this A thing that we hope that we're striving for, which is toe actually imagine repair reconstruction. Accountability is not going to be in a straight line. Him. It's going to be messy. It's going to be Multigenerational. I mean, what we should strive for is creating opportunities for learning, including from ourselves and other models but creating a foundation. So that The young people who are In high school now have Firmer ground to stand upon. This is a marathon. And we need to carry the baton, a certain distance for them..
Founder of Dr. Sturm Skincare, Dr. Barbara Sturm
"So you grew up in East Germany like. Yes. Wow. How was that? What was that like? Does it seem like a distant memory now? Yeah. Because you know damned forty eight now but definitely you grew up in a in an environment where boggles matter friendship breeding matters inability matters no way that you can rely on on friends and. Thanks, you need a life. So I think it's a good upbringing. That's for sure. What do you think was most formative of childhood that you can kind of say that's why I am who I am today. You know I, think you entire life makes you the person you're obviously also what your parents teach you and what your parents live like and my parents from very much teaching ons too key both feet on the ground and. Always be kind respectful to other people no matter who they are and. That is something which you know. I think up to today by value by doing so. And I grew up like this and I guess out. So when you don't have a when you don't draw in extreme luxury, you know when you grow up just a few things, you become very creative and you resourceful intonations and. Keep. Going for the things you want I think that's also something. which gets less and less this society because the children for today pretty much everything from the board. I think it's a different generation. What is the most quintessentially? German thing about you I used to be always on time I'm pretty much on time still. One point it's very German, and so I think I'm sending for quantity and technology in science i. think that is something very German. I remember that Carly member we went on that navy press trip to Hamburg and it was to the second yeah. Yeah we were like Oh, my God, we gotta get to the lobby like. And then German. The wet lead you to get into medical school and you know decide you wanted to take that path. My mother was a lead doctor and she took me to the hospital. When I was a kid, you know to go on visit patients and stuff. So I got into this Medicare idea very early when it was four years already decided I won't be a doctor himself. And never changed. You know to score studied medicine. And I came Dr Early on i. read that when you were in medical school you you're also a young mum and a single mom at that time, and so that couldn't have been easy. Maybe not a lot of people know that part of your story. So was there a particular mantra at that time and you're juggling so much like what helped? You get through through that time. So I was mother was twenty three and I just had done my first big step in medical school and gratefully at that time as their had my mom to help me a lot with my kids but I, think it's just you know you go step by step I think one of my mantras really to take things. Don't look too much out what's going on in the future because then you definitely get around. So step by step and put a checkmark behind everything in Italic Sawed. So with having tried and going to school and do all these days are just doing them. Moving forward, I think that helps you know not stress about future. Just get it done and you become a manager yourself because you have to keep all the balls in the at the same time I'm really good at this now. and. So you became a medical doctor in the field of orthopedics. How did you meet the late great? Koby Bryant. So so I came into other pigs by chance originally wanted to get into pediatrician because at my chide I couldn't see the kids suffering. So I decided okay. 'cause also studied sports, parents, medicines. I win the peaks to do my doctor studied there and I like all the peaks but I was also interested in aesthetics and I had to wait for to get a place in the clinic I wanted to start working and I had to wait half year in this year I decided to go. clinic and then I loved you know working in science so much. Stayed there and didn't go to Tadic's pedic's than I did later but I stayed there pioneering this treatment, we the proteins from God's and decreed cometary proteins to stop the inflammation and the aging process in the joins and we had so many people coming for treatments from everywhere from the word courts, people and people with joint problems in Australia tried is in you know. So we got to meet a lot of people. Not just you know sports
Germany marks low-key 30th anniversary of reunification
"Go to Germany. Now. Today marks a special anniversary for the country 30 years since the reunification of Eastern West Although the commemorations will be muted inevitably because of Corona virus, three decades as a single nation marks an important moment for Europe's biggest economy. GDP per inhabitant across Germany has risen fourfold since 1990. But the rising living standards hasn't been felt equally across East and West. East Germans, on average, still earn less than their West German counterparts and satisfaction with the political cars Indeed, with democracy as a form of government is lower in the east than it is in the West. That's according to a report by the government ombudsman for the former communist East Germany. Well, Dr Ulrich, A garage is a professor of European policy and the study of democracy. Don't know University crims in Austria and joins us Rekha. Welcome. Good morning. Good morning. How significant a day is this? Well, I think it is a very significant day for years. It's quite I mean, it's three decades on DH. I remember quite well the 25 years ceremonies, a Sze Yu said. Now the pandemic avoids that We have big celebrations, but indifference to 25 years and 30 years unification celebration. And I would say it's very important. But for the first time, there is also a sort ofthe reflection about what has been really happening. Yeah, you know, In the past celebrations we watch just celebrating and now there is a sort of deeper meditation about what did they do to the country politically, economically and so forth. That's interesting, and presumably, also, that's influenced to a degree by the fact that you've now got A lot of young adults who have never known Germany any different. Yes, there is. This sort of young generation was born after who never experienced the country divided And there's a lot of study that those don't feel The difference is that elder generation's would still sort of detect. But as I said, for the first time with these 30 years celebration it it seems to me that if you're listening to all these radio features that were obviously having in Germany today in the past weeks. So for the first time, you have a lot of critiques above the process that has been managed in 89, for instance, the toy hunt taking over the rotten industries and former JD and all these things. So there is a sort ofthe former GDR feeling that comes up sort off this heavenly being override it. Let me bring my guest him who may have some thoughts or questions to you, Rachel Shabby. What comes to mind for you? I think this is a fascinating subject and discussion. And I just wonder when you say Professor garrote when you say that there is deep in meditation about what it did to the country politically and economically. What sort of things are coming up in that conversation? For instance, just this morning when I was waking up with my German radio, and there will Ah, somebody saying who is a former media intellectual, but also sport a person. And who would say? Obviously, there was this What we call a regime so dictatorship regime? Yeah. But for the first time we tried to see it in a more saythe electrical way. Which is? Yes, it was ah dictatorship regime, But people were not all oppressed or did not in general field all oppressed. So there is this little sort of shades of gray in how you discuss that people actually could have been happy. And we do not want to be destroy biographies, you know? And you have for the first time people listening to former GDR sort ofthe personalities and and biographies, which say there was a life in Judea. It was not just dictatorship. Rachel was not the answer. You were expecting. Yeah, I wondered if it would be along those lines. Whether people would actually be able to articulate on a personal level. It wasn't all horrible, Andi. There are sort of that There are nuances to that conversation, and I wondered also, if there would be Ah, discussion about the inequalities that still persists. Germany. I'll come to you on that. In a moment we bring Bobby and then by all means, come back. The question I have is that the sense ofthe off unity that Germans now face Expedience. How much of that is influenced by the fact that for half off thes 30 years, Germany has been run by someone from the East. Someone from the GDR Angela Merkel. Not only has Germany been run by her, she's popular at home abroad, widely regarded as the great statesman off are off our time. I mean, To what degree does that help in this reunification? It's very interesting that you posed this question. And the interesting thing about Mrs Merkel is that she is a sod off. How can I say this? Let's say neutral. If you read the There is something interesting about her that she is not checked. She's not tacked East and she's not even tend women. Yeah, you have a lot of discussions, whether the fact very fact that we had for now, 16 years of German Female chancellor did something to the gender question in Germany. But the thing is that these things you do not really associate with Mrs backup. Neither the East West divide nor the gender thing because she tends to be if you read German newspapers. Often she's characterized as mut mother on, and that is interesting that the East thing doesn't take on her. It's not an obvious thing. So probably it has influence. Probably there's something beneath the surface is, but I would not come to it as an obvious sort of because she has been an East Europe, East German women that now 30 years after some of the country unification is OK. I would not make that link was not the answer. You were expecting. No, no, it was from the album. From the outside. It seems striking to me that she is from the East. But But now that I think of it, she doesn't really make a big deal of it herself. So I suppose it makes sense to pick up on the point that Rachel made about inequalities and how much they still exist on are talked about in the context of what went before. Inequalities. Rachel many thanks for the question. Yes, A lot of inequalities between East and West are still existant and on many layers of society. The thing is that the quality question is not really an East Western. You also have the prophet ear's off the benefit of unification. All the people who were basically trained and skilled and mobile by them in 89, you have those who were more say residual. And you know what? And More the countryside. He, um, so it's not only an East West divide. It's also a rule. Urban defied. If you go like say, for instance, or the recent prison is not as performance performing as likely, But life is a very good example for urban cluster that really has risen out of nothing. And you could also point to HINA, for instance, which always have this, you know, making watches and little eye tech industries and the little clusters there. But then you go to the mall rule areas in save the Arctic Sea making book for Pullman, and then you have a roomful of divide, And this is all about equality. And then one important thing is what is seldom told. But obviously we had a brain dying. We had 16 million people. Informer, Julia today there 11 Million, so five million left. But because there's no counting between East and West Germany about sort of leaving the country, it's not really in the statistics. You need to accept in a way that the brains and the mobile people left somewhere really rapidly after 89 movie
"east germany" Discussed on WZFG The Flag 1100AM
"It's one of the contradictions of socialism is that that they say that because all your needs will be taken care off by the socialist state, you will be free to achieve South Agency. And exactly you can do whatever you want to do. That does not happen. What ends off is either fall into welfare dependency or more often, unfortunately, a fall into poverty. When were the the agency to do what you want is completely taken away from you because you're standing in line for a loaf of bail bread as used to happen. In the Soviet Union and East Germany, the ideal of socialism and the reality of socials and very, very different Indeed, I mean, it sounds wonderful to provide for everybody their needs. But you have to have a source for the provisions. And in capitalism. The motivation is if you want money, you've gotta go out and earn it. And socialism is just appears so in capitalism. Yes, I'll get up on a early one morning to go meet a customer. Why would I do that? And socialism. I've always said the strongest muscle in your body Sure rationalized because you use it every day. I can rationalize not getting up early in the morning to go do something if there's no benefit to me for doing it. That is the kind of thing that happens isn't it is very much so. And in fact, one thing that that you see there is very common in socialist state is ah, what we called the brain train. The intelligent, talented people who are able to use different muscles rather than their than that rationalizing muscle. They will leave the country. They will go to a country where their talents and the innovation will be enabled and recognized. And this is one of the very interesting things about socialism. Socialists always talk about international brotherhood. That socialism is often ah, very often extremely nationalist. They will try to prevent people leaving the country because If the only challenge people ah, that you have in the country are leaving. Then what hope is there for the country so they will institute Things like a confiscation of property on leaving the country and eventually it leads to us we saw in the Eastern bloc. Ah, basically, wall's going up around the country not to stop people from coming in, but stop people from going out. And that, of course, is what led to those tragic scenes of the that you can still watch on Ah, on faces like YouTube off of East German border guards, shooting dead people trying to escape the country when they're inches from the western border. Yes, sir. And there is more to discuss about socialism and Ian is going to stay with us. This is Colonel Denny Guillemin. Frontlines of Freedom Troops just push up time. I want you to do 103 pushups. That's the money I do every day, then take a break and stay in the area will be right back. Nearly.
"east germany" Discussed on 790 KABC
"Socialism exactly the same definition. You do the work, but the government the people in the big White house. They decide how to spend your money. And your money is not just money that left is always accusing you of being Greedy if you want to keep your money, but they're not greedy. If they want to take your money, your money is not just money. Your money is your time, And your time is your life so they're stealing your life? That's why slavery is wrong. Slavery wouldn't be wrong. If it was just so you'll give me the money and I'll spend it on wonderful things and much better than you will. But the fact is, is your choices Your that's your personality. That's your life. That's yourself. And your time. That is what your life is made of, and they're stealing that they steal that under socialism, And I sort of would think to myself. You know, if you explain to people that they're instigating slavery that they put pushing a slaver system, making the back off, But now I've begun to understand that. No, they think this is the right thing to do. It is like in East Germany when people in East Germany was supposed to be the most perfect surveillance state ever made. It was like a Stasi, a secret policeman or an informer. To every 60 people and maybe more, maybe even like under 10 people, But everybody was spying on everybody else, making sure that you didn't do anything that was counter revolutionary or against socialism, and they thought that was the right thing to do. And so do these people. And my question is what is the difference? But between them, what is the difference between them and the Stasi informers? Their mindset. I'm not saying this. We're in the same state. But what is the difference between their mindset and those informers in those slave states? And, of course, the press is already auditioning to be the new problem. You know, I that article I was sad arising. Usually When I sat sat arising, somebody says, Well, that's hardly satire. That's just the way the left is, and you know that that's true, but I usually make them funnier than they are. Not this time. This article in the Washington Post I would just be so embarrassed if I were the editor of The Washington Post and Orjust, a city editor and I went on vacation or the Op Ed ever went on vacation and came home and found this in my paper heads would roll there would be firings all around. This's by Rosa Brooks was a law professor at Georgetown University and co founder of the Transition Integrity Project, and I Go back to it because my sap Satur doesn't do it. Justice. It's actually funnier. An uglier and stupider than my satire. So she is co founder of the Transition Integrity Project. Hmm. I wonder what the point of that is. Well, the point is that they want to study. What will happen during the transition? And how to keep the integrity in our transition of power because we're famous for the peaceful transition of power, or we were so this is what she writes again. I'm just really This is the article We wanted to know what's the worst thing that could happen to our country during the presidential election. President Trump. Trump has broken countless norms as all kinds of Norman Fredericks that Norm Smith, he's broken all those countless norms and ignored countless laws during his time in office. I don't go off on a million tangents, but I do have to say they keep saying this stuff, but they never have an example. Like what laws? Is he broken? Alright. Never mind. We want to know what's the worst thing that could have. President Trump has broken countless norms and ignored countless laws during his time in office. And while my Kyla colleagues and I at the transition integrity project Didn't wanna lie at wake a night contemplating the ways the American experiment could fail. We realized that identifying the most serious risks to our democracy might be the best way to avert a November disasters. We built a series of war games. We sought out some of the most accomplished Republicans, Democrats, civil servants, media experts, pollsters and strategists around and ask them to imagine what they do in a range of election and transition scenarios. A landslide for Joe Biden result that resulted in a relatively orderly transfer power. Every other scenario we looked at, involves street level violence and political crisis. Nice country you got here. Shame if anything happened on ly a landslide for Joe Biden will prevent the thing You fear most. You you don't like your city burning. You're afraid these black lives matter. Radicals are going to come to your house. I burned down your neighborhood. Don't No, no, no. Just vote for Joe Biden. If it's all as long as it's a landslide, if it's close, no good, But if it's a landslide, anyone of you who fails to vote for Joe Biden is bringing this on yourself. All right. We've got to talk more about this Washington Post op ed is worse than my satire. Take a look coming right up right here on the end of a present..
Tens of thousands of people rally against Lukashenko in Belarus
"Where Can Belarus President Turn Now? Thousands of people were back on the streets protesting this weekend still angry at what they believe was a rigged presidential election President Lukashenko who claimed as he returned to power with an eighty percent approval rate responded by flying over the protesters wearing riot gear with a rifle slung from his shoulder. Well, drained over is L. Editor of Belarus Anna Leasing at the University of Brain and I'm delighted to say she joins us on the line now Auger a very warm welcome to monocle twenty four. These absolutely bizarre scenes of President Lukashenko yesterday. Well. Yes. I was actually also quite as to see you know him banning public with a gun and also his fifteen year old son campaign him so to say so it's the definitely assigned for me that he he's kind of knocked children confidence in front of the people who through testing by his residence, and it's also not you know not that Jerry. Addict from me because the protest is peaceful, protesters will not trying to receive this residents in the state needs. said the wall spread the information that there was some attempt to seek the? Residency so it's quite an emotional psychological reaction from him. I would say and will. Nobody. that. So it's also very strong sign that there is now readiness of from from the official from the state site for any kind of luck that you know this new to build coordination committee by Dehaan Oscar and she team is is trying to do initiate and I think everybody most notably people. In Belarus itself have been absolutely taken aback by the brutality of the reaction by the the Lauren forces to the protesters and the fact that Alexander Lukashenko was was dressed up in riot gear suggests that he doesn't have anywhere to go other than a violent approach. Yes I would also I would also expects it. You know what targeted repressions and they're ready started last week and they continued this week. So what what would serve now is definitely not base wave of unprecedented repression that we. Saw Three days and nights after the elections but still there are targeted repressions and against. Most active people are also criminal case has been initiated against the newly built coordination committee and people. People are invited to some talks with KGB officials until also people actually also bill will try to strike there actually threatened. By the direction openness of the state owned enterprises that they would lose their jobs and so on. So observe already targeted pressure on people, but this wave is still not to the tide because you know. So what international reaction was so the state drives, you know just show from the one handed, it's not ready for the data from the one hand there is the rest of. You know not not to let this protests spread. Within the country how much do you think that's what the foreign observers of said about what's been happening in Belarus for the last couple of weeks is actually forming any decision made by Alexander Lukashenko at the moment. Well I think that it will quite an important aim has been achieved ready and that we actually we have understood that he's not legitimate within the society right within the boat society and I think also problem was that he really did not understand that. Shortly after the elections or before the elections so and. Actually. I think that the reaction was not is at least that. He and his circles really have the distended. Okay. He doesn't have any majority in society, but it has not led so far to his readiness for dialogue just in the all the way he kind of supports the security structures in internal, Misteri Ministry and actually he even gave you know about three hundred medals to those who are actually responsible of for for this incident violence. So he kinds of stresses that the security two structures military is. Actually the most important pillar his powerful for now for the moment, the Steve Kerr show is joining us now he's policy and advocacy. Directorate. Freedom from torture and author of St Spirit Steve. Welcome. Thanks for joining us. Hey On monocle twenty, four Olga a moment ago mentioned the fact that the secret police is still called the KGB I mean, what does that say about the level of influence at Russia's still has in terms of the way that Belarus's going and whether Russia just going to sit this out. Yes I mean I either it reflects influence of Russia, which is August is certainly, very great or it's just almost bizarre retro element to to better under Lukashenko. He doesn't mind thinking in those terms I think it is going to be. So Russia will certainly be an important factor and but at the same time Mosca really doesn't want to be. Getting, further involved in in a very direct since that's going to be difficult for Russia as well. So I think that Lucas. Is playing a very difficult game. If he was giving small confessions, I think he might have some a little bit more success in some homage to blunt things but so far at least the violence has had absolutely opposite effective people become more and more angry the fear obviously quite rightly the last Sunday was absolutely crucial. I would argue that the US huge threats of on ahead of Sunday hoping that people. Would back off and stay at home and actually it was a big rally than ever. So not particular face off. There's no question that Lukashenko loss what happens next we'll still see I'll steve has suggested that Sunday was a pivotal moment some people waiting for what is described as a tipping point when an event causes things to go one way or the other would you say that Sunday was part of that? Tipping Point. Demon this Sunday last Sunday. To Sunday. The Sunday. Just gone when tens of thousands of people came out onto the streets to set by a threat the first Sunday directly after the elections. Yes. I it just completely I mean people never any. Okay. What we're talking about batteries and Ballard who's says, Chris it's not the first Sunday that actions pulses side will have to admit that it also not to the extent that people actually being tortured eating the prisons will have also. took a beast fag, but it's for the first very time that such vast majority of people. So it with their own is is of their families or friends in stone. So you can imagine how many are nets were the strategy when they're where our seven seven thousand arrests. So it's it's quite a big part of the country said it's really I would agree it had an opposite effect and it's also for the first time that you know this special. GRANITZ or gas or a also rubber bullets on there were actually used against own population. It never existed in the history of Belarus in October election protests, people widget shocked and I think it was a shock from the both sides because the state net expected to such mass protest before also before three weeks before the elections would be solved by. About two to five or even six percent of local population came to to railways with Hannele. It's also unprecedented thing was kind of shock from both sides and of course, people people were also by this eighty percent because nobody really believes that anymore I mean. People also really did not quite believe that before I, would say people heading out some kind of feeling that president steelhead had a majority maybe not eighty percent maybe fifty five, maybe sixty but this feeling was there and this style with completely different. So quiet in Jersey, you know quite a big part even I think I would say the majority of people just didn't believe that he actually has any kind of fifty plus and that was the problem that we still have this eighty percents I think people would just. People were just humiliated by that of course, activate shortly afterwards by this unprecedented wave refreshing stave when we look to the further history of batteries, which is being written right now when considering what sort the former eastern bloc countries of have seen in the last three decades. When regime ends, it's generally quite a peaceful affair actually the deleted. is of removed from office. This is unlikely to happen here. Isn't it? Well, I mean, sometimes it has been an sometimes it hasn't been. So when I was a journalist working for the independent, I was the East Europe during the eighty nine revolutions and also join me the fall of Milosevic Milosevic in Serbia and cover dot and there a number of those leaders were ready to use very significant violence and what I'm fascinated by very moved by what was seeing with the courage. A better as protesters today is to see that they are defined vence in the same ways that work very effectively for example, in East Germany where people were threatened with extraordinary for someone particular day in Leipzig in. October nineteen eighty-nine the fact that so many people came out meant regime which had publicly declared its loyalty to force actually back down in Romania I very much. Hope it weren't turn into remain, but we do already see that there are splits within Belarus at the riot police remain loyal. The moment we've seen a number of police units splits off. We've seen a lot of establishment figures putting off in the same way as also does something happened in in Ukraine and the Orange Revolution, and once you see security forces a different security forces splitting away going like enough already as August said, I mean the eighty percent. Claim was was absurdly insulin and the degree of the virus even Grayson seen before and I think this is really interesting. It might end up in huge volumes but I think Lukashenka would lose very very badly that to happen I think it's a regional issue. How if you like bluntly how crazy you are Milosevic. For example, he survived on one occasion ninety seven by giving some concessions and then re clamping down and people just got tired and went back when you use real violence I think it's really difficult. It was a great book written by Richard couple the Polish off I was written about the Iranian revolution. Charlotte. Charlotte's but very much reflected his own country Poland which forty years ago. This month solidarity kind of a huge opposition movement didn't call itself opposition challenge the regime and unthinkable circumstances laying Brezhnev for the very reactionary Russian leader was still in power. They managed to become successful and he said the moment where people stand in front of eastern threatens violence, the pre curry signing backstops, and instead someone stands there and doesn't back down he said, this is where the revolution begins, and after that in effect is the exact the precipice. If you're to violence, you make people more angry if you start making concessions than people go. We have lost our fear and in a sense the certain moment difficult to prediction events but describable. There is no way back to the regime and it still seems a little bit early to say but I think it's very, very difficult to see how Lukashenko come back from this. If he steps back more gently than, of course, it will be peaceful. The protests have been fun tastic peaceful and very, very consciously so far the extended even cleaning up rubbish because I really vary consciously very civic. Minded. So he might just go off and disappear off to Russia for example, and as it will live happily ever after but he tries to bring out all of the guns. Then I think you know all bets are off but I don't think it was a good ending for him whichever way it goes Steve Crozier and Elga agenda over there. Thank you for joining us on monocle twenty four.
"east germany" Discussed on 860AM The Answer
"Dennis Prager here. Sabina in San Antonio, Texas High How are you? I'm well, Thank you. I can't believe I'm talking to you and and your answer. To my favorite people. I called your screener. I was sobbing at a time that I called him and I wouldn't want to apologize for that. But I told her I'm from Communist East Germany, Way actually fled Germany. My mother, my grandma and I in 89 right before the wall fell. Um and I have been seeing well till till signs. In America for many, many years and Of communism are communist ideology and scaring I'm kind of freaking out. So I guess my question to you is. What do you think? Are we lost coming out of this, or am I being a drama Queen? You're not a drama clean. If you are, then I'm a drama King. And I never have been and I loathe trait of drama Queen Ignace. But the one who is not aware of the movement thought communism in this country. Of the totalitarian control of people's minds of of the cult like The characteristic of leftism like communism and East Germany. Then one is Doing what most people do with evil, and that is denying it, And so they focus on decent white people as the villains of the country when the left of the villains of the country I feel for you to a flood East Germany and then to see the Stasi reinstituted in its nascent phase is it's not fully obviously there, but soon it will be Tell us in class if your parents made a racist comment It already exists. So listen, I I feel for you. I mean, he went every reason to believe that you were coming to the freest country in the world. I feel for me. I had every reason to believe that America would continue to be free. Although I was warning of this my whole life I hope we meet one day Sabina ever you have a right to cry. It is worthy of tears. What the left is doing to this country. Yes and the so Let's Summer on some of your Call Steven Phoenix, Local businesses should fight back against their forced closure. It will only work, Steve.
"east germany" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"Death was one of them with the archived footage off the concentration camps. Germans were forced to go and see them in local cinema had been beaten down to live like animals. Far worse, or few animals had lived in the terror, hunger and filth of these victims. A lot of Germans simply refused to believe what they've seen. In these films because they've bean headed out of Nazi propaganda lies for 12 years, and most Germans, too, in the immediate aftermath of the war was simply trying to survive. There was mass malnutrition. Economic conditions were really terrible, so they didn't really want to know. And then it took a long time after that for Germans to accept the idea of democracy after all democracy in the twenties in Germany, the farmer Republic Has led to Nazis coming to power, and it was an economic disaster. First of all hyperinflation on then a huge depression much deeper than that slump in America, but that was related to the first World War. Yeah, it was following on that. But I mean, as a result of that, of course, Germans mistrusted democracy. They didn't think it deliver. Prosperity was Hitler's rearmament have delivered something of a boom. So it was until what the Germans call In West Germany the economic miracle in the sixties, when the German economy recovered, they began to think well, maybe democracy can actually deliver prosperity. There was a television Siri's called Holocaust in 1978 starring Meryl Streep. That was really influential. That's right. It was it was shown in Germany and you follow A number of fictionalized characters. Jewish family on a young man who joins the SS and becomes bit by better kind of vicious Nazi thugs finished You free Europe. So perhaps the camps and machinery could soon be obliterated. Forgive me, X I did not be more fitting to let them stand as monuments to our great service to mankind. We have nearly followed. The logic of European history. A case can be made for us, and that had a big effect on Western Germany. But it's not really till the 19 nineties that there's a further step towards a reckoning when but then what will fell A lot of West Germans who lost their property to the communist regime in east Germany from 1940 Niner words they claimed for the return of their property that there are a couple of 1,000,000 of these lawsuits. And then that sparked former slave laborers of the Nazis from Poland and Eastern Europe to put in their claims. And then there's the whole process of restitution looted artworks that began in the middle eight nineties in Germany today on Ly, the unhinged would reminisce about the virtues of the Third Reich. Or define its defeat as a lost cause. If they're our trunks bearing the mouldering remnants of Nazi regalia, they aren't brought out for fun filled reenactments of the Battle of Belgium. There are no high school's named for Adolf Eichmann. No statues of Heinrich Himmler. Surely there is one controversial monument in Hamburg. It commemorates a World War one battle, but it was erected by the Nazis and was fascist in its execution. This presented a problem. That's right. The Hamburg regiment in World War one. They lost a number of people on the battlefront and in 1936 in the Nazi period. They put up a big stone block with a concrete relief off the soldiers in their helmets and rifles marching around it, Onda above it in Gothic lettering. Germany must live even if we must die. It isn't necessarily what the soldiers thought at all on DH. This was thought to be a monument in the terms of national socialist Nazi ideology. So there were a lot of protests. But then, of course, understandably, the relatives and descendants of the men who And killed who are memorialized in this block said No, You mustn't take it down. You mustn't forget them. So the idea came of constructing an anti monument next to it. The biggest and most damaging a road of the entire World War two was in Hamburg. In 1943 40,000 civilians were killed, and that makes you think. Well, you know, that's what happens in a war Then more perhaps isn't as Gloria says the monument implies Evans an ideal solution. If there's a reason to keep a problematic monument, build another one next to it for context to balance the narrative. Seven's argues that the Germans will never return to fascism because they're always coming across literally stumbling over these memorials to the victims of the Nazis. But there is a difference between the West and the east. The West was made to feel responsible. The East was not yes, he's Germany was controlled by the Soviet Communist Party from 1945 until 1919. And what the East German puppet regime tried to do was to tell East Germans that Communists resisted the Nazis and they should identify with the Communists so they don't have toe. Confront any sense of involvement in the crimes of narcissism and then on top of that democratic political culture, which was rooted in West Germany by 1990 Had very shallow roots in east Germany. They lived under a Soviet dictatorship. Communistic Taylor ship before that under the Nazi dictatorship. So you find that in East Germany The votes for the anti immigrant party. The alternative for Germany much much higher than they are in West Germany. There's still only about 1/5 of the electorate. Some of the politicians say that Germans feel too guilty about the Nazi past. It's time to stop feeling guilty. But as I said most of Germany's a very small minority, remember the rise of authoritarian anti immigrant right wing Leaders who are undermining democracy in all kinds of ways is mostly confined to former communist state. So Poland, Hungary, For example, Jet Republic No. There. No, there haven't come to about it, but they're gaining strength. Yeah, but they're not very strong. I mean, that's the point, so everyone gets terribly worried when the alternative for Germany Scores on a 15% of the vote. But they forget that virtually every other political party in Germany supports Angela Merkel's policy on letting immigrants into the country, not just the Christian Democrats. We should her party but the Social Democrats on the greens, for example. As they say, is where democratic values are strongly anchored in political culture, that the memory of what happens when you have a far right dictatorship. For most Germans is more than enough to put him off. So let's recap the lessons of Germany extra.
"east germany" Discussed on NewsRadio WIOD
"Went in Asia he showed up in the park he brought a ladder in cleaning supplies last Monday he was up on the ladder and he was cleaning all of that up he said he doesn't mind protests but he mines the color red in the hammer and sickle because he lived through it he knows what it is I want to speak to those people who have come from oppression who have come from Poland have come from East Germany have come from behind the Iron Curtain whom no what this is who have seen it in their own countries who have lived under Marxist utopias your country your new country need you more than ever because we just don't get it we need you more than ever we need you to stand up to those of you from Venezuela you need to stand up and you need to March to wake American people up you don't need to March to stop black lives matter you need to March to wake the American people up because we don't get it and we don't think this could ever happen here I do I know exactly what's happening here and I know we have probably until the election to be able to save our nation we need you to stand up you probably know what that means it means if they when you're on a list I.
"east germany" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"From my parents about what it was like stories about smuggled Beatles albums forced patriotism and small crappy cars but the craziest stories were always about the Stasi the east German secret police the Stasi were infamous for the extreme lengths they went to spy on their own people they say that something like one in seven east German citizens were coerced into informing on their friends and relatives real nineteen eighty four type stuff and for younger Germans it's strange to think that this was the world that our parents lived in every day but not too long ago I saw a movie about the chassis and there was one detail from the film about something this does he supposedly did that personally for me I thought was just too crazy to believe so when I have the chance to interview someone who had been surveyed and interrogated by the chassis in real life I have to ask yep the mice and cardamom caught so many questions in my head but in the film there there's a scene where I ask myself how is this possible is that during the interrogations they will try to collect the smells of people is this correct they really try this for Christmas yes we can leap tested me often during C. interrogations I have to sit on a small piece of cloth back then I didn't know why I should sit on his class I probably sold said they suspected eyeballs in continent intercontinental at Sierra I only found out later said sees us mending tests and the two separate votes put into a glass jar full sniffer dogs this is a Lima Papa she was a famous dissident in East Germany in the seventies and eighties and the reason I wanted to talk to her was that even when the shots these standards of surveillance she was special from nineteen seventy eight until nineteen eighty nine Leica was one of the most surveilled people in east German history.
Byte David Hasselhoff
"Hi Welcome to season two of bite. This is Tony Auto and so parenting an apocalypse. It's it's not the same way you know how it works. Any views usually two to four minutes long but sometimes they can be a little longer. Only when you when you live long enough. All kinds of strange things happened very right in saying that. The Greek heroes the original superheroes in part because of the hopeful nature of genes vision but also because of its message of diversity and inclusion David Hasselhoff speculated with me on how he would do a Knight Rider movie and the style kit the way he was and then bring it into the you know two thousand and twenty and bring it into now and you know it could be like Kit Meets. Michael and his well Michael. You look a lot older and I say well things have changed since you've been gone and then House fast. Michael and I say all the cars talk now and it's great because they all do you know and then yeah. I turbo booster and have a car whiz by kit. Kit goes what happened. I said. Well Buddy you need to hit refresh. And he goes Michael. What's for fresh you know? He doesn't know he's gotTa be updated into the technology of today and of course we'll do that movie and then make him into the supermarket. We should be and it'll be cool absolutely. It would be a lot of fun to see that I really wouldn't be up for. You also has an audio book up against the wall like listen to his flashback. Autumn Nineteen eighty-nine East Germany changes in the air. Like the winds of fall and on the wind freedom can be sniffed communist. Europe is crumbling and Moscow. Gorbachev is opening the way to the end of the Soviet Union and Prague people are marching changes coming and East Germany. To the feeling is in the air like the. Chris snap of fall freedom in their minds and hearts and on their lips. My hit single looking for freedom. Unbeknownst to me this song chart topper in West. Germany has also become an underground anthem in the east traded on homemade cassettes sung in bars and nightclubs. I'm a star among fans. I have never met and who have never seen or heard me accept him. Blurry photocopies and pirated TV signals. Look for up against the wall. The audio book read by David Hasselhoff himself on audible for bite. This is Tony Talada.
"east germany" Discussed on KSFO-AM
"Never thought about that I did you die and it was a revelation to me because if you think about it is hardly surprising was a kia thank you very much margin country the that would as three cities I provided the map to highlight the fact that we should use well the flash you do say with the lead as they supplied vast quantities of flowers and products for the country and for export and buys shortly Clackamas circumstance they remained together he's German control that meant that East Germany still that because it was so big I'm amazed I really amazed I never thought about that and it was a thriving industry from all the way from you know before the second World War the first World War two the second World War but prior to that it was a major industry and Germany I I hadn't thought about that right well when you go back far enough in time the ministry of any country in those days was always agriculture because says as you know it's very difficult to see people so I was always a principal and interest in East Germany they can take it back to the you know one thousand where the abbey's most of the properties that that wasn't done by the king and they they they had in the production all food stocks and then gradually until may be the end of the eighteen thirty nineteen seventy did anyone pay much attention to flowers but some of the places into as I read about raise that reads to seventeen nineteen Garey.
Clyde Butcher: Photographing the Everglades
"Butcher but she was known primarily for his dazzling large format black and white photography the everglades glades and Florida environment regardless of your photographic background or your tastes photography. There is so much you can learn about his story career good example. How many photographers August do you know who actually made money? Selling thousands of prince through the Amazon of the Stone Age. Or as we sometimes call it the sears catalog he did it anyway. This episode is going to be a little bit different than normal because it's just a simple conversation between John. Inclined they touch on a number of interesting subjects including Bush's work in the swamps with large format cameras. His recent foray into Sony digital cameras paired with cannon tilt shift lenses and is mind boggling doctrine with vintage in lodgers. They'll also discussing the business models that he and his family employees to market is images his thoughts on black and white versus color and of course his relationship to the Florida landscape escape for which he will be forever. Linked Klein is a true American master. And it's a treat to have him on the beach photography podcast. Let's have a listen. You work the worth almost known for his kind of a process. Heavy work Invasions time working in large format. But let me ask you. Do you feel photography Is is more of a ways or means whether the means be adventure solids money whatever happens to be. Hopefully photography is the adventure through life that you bring happiness to people through your images in my work. I'm trying to bring the environment out the to the public because people big Zoya heavy idea where oxygen comes from yet so we you have to try to convince people that the earth is round round. Last I checked it worse worse spaceship and so we have a finite number of materials here so through my photography people see the beauty mhm Have to get into it too. We're looking at pictures a lot. Lotta pictures not really early Pictures of things feelings of things. Try to draw you in pictures of the really Nice Center. The interest is on the sides. Were you in the reason I might pictures you know. I guess you probably seem into Israel silver prints. They're up to five foot by eight and a half feet. Nine feet in. Nikki showed me the space in the back of the documentary. Yeah and the rinsing in the chemical tables. That's thirty eight foot long sink. Yeah five foot by four foot. Trees actually betrays sinking itself discussion. The jumping ahead. There's so many questions about that. Space that you create in the photo and what you want people to do in that space but while we're there are you know over the past twenty plus years now. We've seen this going away from from analog film photography and Printing when that first started I mean how did you ask yourself any questions. Like how am I gonNA sustain this helmet in a supply myself with these as Kodak shutting down as you you know Ilford is pulling back now. Little resurgence in that but at the time was ever questioned. What you're GonNa do well with digital came out in Kodak's at all we're we're out here? It was getting older is you can't. Is that thirty five millimeter. We're talking about you know why should up to twelve twenty negative Majority the five seventy Enjoys five seven eight by ten some love. Fourteen twelve twenty twelve twenty seven fourteen really silly information. Yeah but it's like it's like when you take a twelve or twenty hours like ticket television set out there ebbing subside down colored collar but at that time. Did you know what I must take my guns. This is what I do is what I love to do a mock going back because you know sales I dunno sales took a hit or whatever or you know those kind of things but it was it ever a conversation to have with yourself or or was it. When I was a little nervous I think it was in nineteen ninety eight? We start doing books. So we've always general books but I was doing that my own scanning my negatives okay so I had to learn photoshop so I could If the picture of the book I tried to teach me photoshop I went to a couple of courses. It was pretty today's picture here so I said I got underway doing this in analog so I figured analog way of doing now I can do ten minutes yeah and what would that. What does that analog method ended? Basically we you like when you burn something you burn. It ingredients a lot with the burn tool okay so in in that. Gradient can change the contrast in that gradient. Okay that's interesting so might have to race a little bit around say on a burning tree. I just raised a little bit around. Make a circle around contrast less contrast. I can do that with a gradient so I could just like what I do now. In the printing we have verbal contrast paper Blue Green Bulbs so I need less contrast the blue off in a burden with green more contrast bring with blue so do the same thing thing a digital album that interesting and what's exciting to me. I finally got the I think I got the right camera to now. I got the new the Fuji F G X one hundred year about it's got sixteen bit. You'll realizing advantage of sixteen bit gradients of it becomes smooth. Yeah Woah and you can't do that fourteen bit again sixteen. This breath camera to me is to automatic. I like the I have the fifty s Has got a little dials here. This was all trying trying like so so but I've had to figure out how adapt my Kansas to it because the apertures is done by the camera so actually Cambo makes an adapter the cameras the Fuji that actually controls the Iris independently of the camera. Yet as he worry about the camera anymore. Tanaka used by lenses. And I can't shoot without having I think this is the poodle relies the the difference of getting four gram laureate Liz. The tilting tilting. The camera down more foreground yet. I lower the landscape. I don't tell camera. Yeah okay so the perspective is correct and it's also different in perspective Natural I'm kind of surprised a little bit to hear the the embrace and the deep dive into you know from the Fuji in as you mentioned the Sony All these things in the digital world. Was this something that you brought to you based on the fact that you needed to physically. Well I'll I tell you the reason I starting bracing. It is because the camp there came out with INC ARCHIVAL PAPER EGO. So unless you have a media that she can print on this going to be around for awhile. I Media Irish printer. It was good for at at least good two months. There was dead because it was used for proof. Lean offset printing needed to so the client the through the weak- Anka in your mind's eye of the print. Maybe excuse me for even asking. This is the final product. I mean when you see what you're looking at. Did you see through the Lens through the landscape to the print at the medicine. Well I do you know you said to see through the Lens I actually everything I do is point shoot. I do not compose the camera. You can't a a little bit. More digital. But with a large format view us a widening the lens of Orange Arch format. You can't see the composition the ground glass to you WANNA to see if it's Focus on the edge have moved over to the left and then yet lowered the riot. So you really can't see the competition so I've learned about the first retro focus. Twenty millimeter lens came in the country in nineteen sixty two. The first Retro Focus Lens was made in East Germany but the flag on Appeal Roy. Milton reflect to got. So I've been using that in wider wider angles ever. Since then I've been wide-angled I mean I've got maybe half dozen shots were taken with different lines. Really I I go from if you relate to Full frame thirty five I go from about ten millimetres twenty
Another European Christmas
"A lot of the essential components of our Christmas celebrations originated in Germany. They gave us the Christmas tree. And MM Silent Knight. Let's start the hour to see how our friends Fabian. Reuter Caroliina Marburger. An hoeger Zimmer are enjoying the season in Germany Fabien Caroliina holder. Thanks so much for sharing your Christmas with us. Thanks for having knocking. Yeah so when you think about Germany Americans think about Oh Tanenbaum. That's German German. Isn't it a Christmas tree. Let's think about back when you were children. What are the memories? Carolin- tell me about the Christmas tree and how you decorated my favorite thing. Actually is that we always back in the day to day. It's just our family but back in the day all our friends come to our house and we went out to cut the treats and we still do cut the trees ourselves back. The old tradition is actually because I come from a region where the forest is owned by the Duke and so the tradition actually is surprisingly. It was the proper thing to do. You stole it. That was what was expected. So no no you have to see the dentist proper Christmas tree steal the tree from the Duke. Yes and then we bring it home and it would take a full day and everyone's efforts to to decorate it and of because natural candles. Of course that's natural candle holder. We still lex. You also cut the Christmas to L. together with my little daughter's with that solution to go out it and of course now we buy it. Did you not there anymore but I remember back to my childhood lot of secrecy is involved. Someone got the tree. Put it up. But we can't couldn't see that because it was kind of hitting it was like levintv similar like the living room would turn into the Christmas Room. Two doors is locked. The door is not there so living was actually no go zone zone so basically whatever goes on in terms of you know putting the Nativity scene or you know decorating at creating the tree. Getting all the stuff on there into candles. Dennis done behind closed doors so only then when like maybe after coming from Church then you were allowed a little bell rings acting thinking and Daniel would come in and everything was there like the cans were late and that was like the first time we kids and still. That's what we do still under that you've of creative. The parents create this wonder for the children's and that's all I see that's still in the eyes of my little daughter she comes. Dan knocked out. What happened it? Tree is decorated his presence. The Kendall's the real candles on the tree. We've Kennel sedate at something. Where the fire extinguisher nearby bucket of water? Water Fabio near Childhood Memories. Have the tree the candles. The Real Campbell's very important but for me the the Christmas season really always began with December six with the morning of Saint Nicholas Day. Oh Yeah because that is the day that Santa Claus drops by for the first time to tell you whether you have been good this year. Not Give you little inkling a little hint and so the evening you would put your shoes out and then go to bed and the next morning i the Santa Claus or his assistant have given you hint. If you've been good child. Santa Claus is left possibly chocolate or even little gift in your shoes. If you've been bad there's a lump of coal but do you have time then to make good before Christmas this come between December. Because I'm a very good child. Important about that is not only put up when you have to shine to shows I you gotta work for that. uh-huh yes otherwise. No no failing and then did you normally have some good news or bad news and six personally Always made sure would have good news so I tried to be have before December six. This is one thing that transcends borders the kids are being extorted and frightened being the good kid. So you're not you're nice and what about music or movies or TV specials In America we have certain you know cherished specials In Germany as a child or your kids today well of course it is the Christmas songs that we expect to sing in church the silent knight that everyone else things of course in any language but in its original form. And it's the most common Christmas movie that we watched one of my cherished films. That is a check East German production of nineteen seventy-three offer Cinderella Three Cinderella from Reno and it is one of the most feisty Cinderella's there isn't a thing in the world and wait a minute the most charming three that's for sure and this is produced by communist East Germany and the Socialists wanted to check you. How could this be that? The Communist governments would partner and producer a Christmas. Everyone needs fairytales. Yeah they they produce wonderful ones did have an agenda or was it just a political agenda. It's just it's a very we've very strong Cinderella and like some of the more Vegas silent ones when it comes to traditions also music like for us. It is important that we sing together. Like it's not just like report on a tape and there's like bing crosby going on now it's like the old traditional songs that we used to sing and we like to sing and when we come home from church differ thing we do is on Christmas Eve. We get together and sit in one room just candles in a hand and we sing as a family together the Christmas song and if we really want to do it might kid wants. Do We dance around the Christmas tree. It's kind of weird but it's still lives on. These traditions are still there. This is great to know that it lives on. I've been in Nurnberg on a very cold night with a group going from square to square and into the Church courtyard and Kendall it and singing these songs with Gusto. And it's just beautiful to hear the Christmas carols that I grew up with in German. The Silent Knight was originally in German. I mean Americans probably think it was written in English but no that's a translation steal enough right
Top things to do in Berlin
"I. I'd like to welcome the show. Audrey Scott and Daniel knoll from an cornered market DOT COM or at welcome back to the show I should say and we brought Audrey and and Daniel back to talk about Berlin Germany Audrey and Daniel Welcome back to the show. Thanks for having us back and I say welcome back to the show but I. I don't know if I could come up with all the Times you've been the show. We certainly done wonderful episodes together on prog and Bangladesh are the two that really stand out for me. I think there may maybe some other ones and there certainly some this. We can travels in there also but I put a list of all the shows they have been on in the show notes so we don't have to waste time with that but we have not covered Berlin Lynn Germany in quite a long time. I was really surprised how long it had been more than a decade since we've talked about a rather rapidly changing city Berlin has changed a lot lot since we covered it the first time in the show for sure and you guys happened to live there now. Yeah we've actually called Berlin are home now for about seven years. It's hard to believe Aleve and even within that time it's changed quite a lot so if we go back over a decade yeah. There's been a lot of changes well so this seemed like a really good excuse to have two of my favorite guests back on the show. Why should someone think about going to Berlin? Well it it certainly seems to be enjoying an another up surgeon ovulating. Correct me if I'm wrong on the statistics. I think it's the third most popular destination in Europe. And it's interesting because Berlin on the surface is is not a traditional European destination meaning. It doesn't have preserved old town like Prague Nick or even like many of the other incredible credible cities in Europe but when it has a has its dynamism feel to it and creativity and energy and so people don't really come to Berlin to see Z.. Beautiful old buildings there are still a few that remain. There's obviously really interesting history here but it's more for its creative field for its neighborhoods spor. There's also has a really big party scene for those who like clubbing. It's more about the feel of the place will. Then I think the other two most popular cities than would would be London and Paris. I believe you're talking about and compared to the two of them it's also had a reputation for being less expensive low. I don't know if that's still true. I think Jewish rush to a great degree. It is having just visited London. I think we can. We can vouch for that London. Right still a great city but yeah so yes certainly your dollar euro or whatever you can be carrying goes a little bit further and I think it's just a different city. Virginia from what Adriana said before I think when people come away their struck with the difficulty to articulate why Berlin sticks with them in a way that it does in the word they often use five. I love the divider that city. Such an interesting vibe that the atmosphere and I think a lot of s to do with the fact that religion is in a constant state of Flux Fox and perhaps in a constant state of Renaissance reimagining itself will in you mention concentrate of luck so the first time I was in Berlin. We've talked about this on. The show was a year after the wall fell and the the heart of the city. The center of the activity was Kurfurstendamm. Turn down on the western side and you could still see the bullet holes in the walls on. What was East Germany? You could hardly find any trace of the wall but you wouldn't meet. You didn't need it to tell what had been East. Germany was still fairly drab on that side of in a lot of the buildings and things I think the the last time I was back in a completely flipped the vibrant activity was where it traditionally was in the eastern part of the city buttered standard that continues continues to change since I have been there. Yeah I mean. The city is constantly changing in Berlin is a very neighborhood focused city so the neighborhoods are always experience in different levels of renaissance also in their hip when they're not hit but for especially after the wall fell East Berlin. What was formerly east? Berlin was the hub hub for heart for artists and the mayor actually was rather smart. He said we have all these really big industrial buildings. We have all this space and actually opened up four artists for basically like squatter communities and art studios and stuff and so that attracted a lot of artists in creative types to the city in. So you still feel let today but some of the traditional areas where that was like Mitte has now become a bit too expensive a little bit too gentrified now. Those artists communities are going a little bit more. Let's say towards the edges where there still is available space will emit a would be middle so literally the middle of the city. Yeah it's the middle of the city but it was the heart of former East Berlin and all the neighborhoods have changed quite a bit like we live in Nikon in the south and our neighborhood. We talked to Berliners who grew up appear in their thirties forties. Saying when I was young you never went there. That was considered a bad place to go. Someone joked it was like the Harlem like in the bad days but but now it's a vibrant community. We've got museums and galleries. But also it's still has this connection to its roots. which is a worker community as as well as an immigrant community? So it's this interesting dynamic between a little bit of gentrification which is a big issue in Berlin right now but it still has its soul in terms of the working man every day. Many hood is well excellent. Well let's start to put some structure on. That's what kind of itinerary would you recommend for someone who's coming to Berlin especially for the first time time. Okay well that really depends on the number of day. Well let's target. Let's talk about a week for Berlin and day trips from Berlin. I think the first piece of advice that we might give to. Someone has to understand that Berlin. Is I believe approximately three hundred sixty miles square miles in terms of landmass. So you're not gonna be able to cover the entire city so I think the trick is to figure out what are the core elements that you'd like to see in Berlin East and west and then maybe to identify a a couple of non-core that are out there in some of the neighborhoods so in terms of some of the usual suspects in. You're looking at things like checkpoint Charlie in the Checkpoint Charlie Museum which definitely definitely a although it is touristy at something that we often recommend to people particularly on those days that are not good weather days at the museum. Actual checkpoint appoint Charlotte's it's rather touristy and people are posing for photos but the museum is actually it's a private initiative and it has all sorts of stories and photos of life rush when the wall was up as well as stories of escape. And it's quite well done. Well let's dig into that a little more so checkpoint Charlie one of the famous checkpoints between East in West Berlin. There's the little guardhouse there which is a reconstruction because they tore down the guardhouse ray quickly after they down the wall and then realized Oh hey we we have this wonderful memorable spot so they. They built it back up again but the checkpoint Charlie Museum was there during the time of the wall all and it started as a private collection of memorabilia about escapes predominantly from Berlin and. I think it's a fascinating museum Ziam. Although I would have to say the last time I was there. It had a feel of grandma's attic in terms of organization. I don't know if that has changed. Excel Excel J. One of the most amazing wonderful collections. So hazardously arranged but you can see where someone took a surfboard. Gordon holiday it out so they could put people inside or cars with secret. Compartments were people who made balloons to fly over the wall. It's a fascinating collection especially in terms of Cold War. History doesn't Nice job of addressing cold order history from the stamp on Berlin that it also digs into some of the Cold War history elsewhere so with over revolution in Prague so the rising Hungary so it provides a broader context. Not just what happened here in Berlin which I think is really really
"east germany" Discussed on KQED Radio
"It's very you can still see the pain on his face but I lex was not the kind of mine to give up exposing the fact that his village was near a major rail junction he decided to start inviting finds in fines for moreover East Germany on some from the west to to come to his village and policy in the simple room with a stage at the back of the village pub let me use local farmers would see hundreds of punk rockers on you refund six had passed them at the bar so what are we going to now we walk in service place to be the sniper the pop and this is where it all happens this is yeah this is where all the owner of this time drover trevan to to because he's German car and India on end of his career you drove a monster we help making to get rich we are now in the hole how many people could you guys in here officially one hundred fifty with the police say but maybe we have thousands coming back in here must bring back immediately members of certain moments what do you think of understanding I am waiting just a party stuff Alex could do all this more easily as his village was a long way from the forces of law and order though US will learn later.
"east germany" Discussed on News Radio 690 KTSM
"The middle aged woman goes into a coma just before the wall falls when he awakens doctors tell her son he can't deal with any shocking news thank you what happened while I was asleep this is about making welcome to Burger King can I take your order it's just a wonderful movie you know about the changes about people trying to understand what was happening it's humorous I'm I think if they want to see the darker side of the GDR the lives of others is obviously a very compelling you were under surveillance the whole time and he's German official tells a playwright always considered himself an oil communist we knew everything about about what it was like to be under surveillance like that from the east Germans the first thing to remember about the Berlin Wall says your going co creator of the Sundance channel series Deutschland eighty three and two excellent eighty six is that it encircled the western part of Berlin which was located in the center of East Germany Americans are surprised to find out that West Berlin wasn't islands in East Germany most Americans think that it was right on the border between west and East Germany so they're surprised to find out that it was basically surrounded by the communist east in the first two or three years after the wall was built some east Germans who wanted to escape their now walled off country were able to secretly make their way to the west these days you can see how like going underground the end of the next two hours to see for instance how some tunneled their way out so it was like this so to try and love entrance because here they figured if they take a triangle they will have to remove it I signed on and off for the first ten meters they still using that square like more classical design some two thirds of those tunnels were actually dug from West Berlin into East Berlin because it was easier that way to avoid detection by east German security services not everybody wants to leave is Germany.
Germany Is Next In Line For Political Upheaval
"Germany next in line for political upheaval. The future of the country's ruling coalition is in doubt after the newly elected leaders of the Social Democrats amounted fresh concessions from. I'm Angela Merkel's party. It raises the prospect that Koby Elections in Germany and twenty twenty can learn more now from Stephanie. Bolson correspondent for the German newspaper Duvets. I'm I'm Stephanie. Thank you for joining US little more about these new leaders of the SPD. What he's they want? Well what is very interesting about these new leaders that it Me personally will not be an exception saying that. I have hockey ever heard the names before. So it's not about a eskin ZENDA SASKIA ask Simply a cold and they They came out of the blue so there was a very long process in among the membership to see who would now follow analyst. She was the leader of the mind was very unpopular and actually unto Saturday evening. Everybody was thinking that it would be That the new leader would be We'll have shorts the incumbent Finance Minister and then these two came kind out of the blue and and then won the race. Why do you think that happened? If there was an expectation that it will be a relatively well known relatively mainstream within the Party auty candidate why. Why is this happened If you look at the polls in the membership of the SPD. The majority of membership wants Serb leadership. It's now for the first time dual so it's woman and a man who are more or less leaning the SPD. A membership is very very unhappy about the the costs that the party has gone for many many years they have been in a coalition with a CD you Since two thousand seventeen were inequality before so we have actually seen almost ten years of a coalition between the two big parties and memberships things that Angela Merkel has basically Louis Take away the whole profile of the PD. So all the left leaning politics like minimum wage Gay Marriage image all these things socially progressive but also economically progressive has been Well to the benefit of Mackerel and the junior partner now who the. SPD's has been such a long time has really lost profane and it was every election. Pilings have gone down. Isn't it always as the way though in coalitions that the junior partner doesn't get much of what they want. Yes it is very much a movie scene that in Britain for example with a coalition between the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats between twenty and twenty fifteen a lot of the policies were implemented. Were actually ideas by Liberal Democrats but the Conservatives as the biggest party will always very successful to say. Hey that was our success and the same has been happening in Germany the problem for the SPD the is though they if they even now set. Okay we are going to leave the government coalition that will probably not be paid back At the next election because is the sense in Germany that you have been voted in. You have agreed to a coalition. You have to take the responsibility if you're now going going away just because of say kind of selfish party folk was reasons. This is a this is unacceptable and therefore they are between rocking hot place Whether they stay in the coalition which is bad or they leave the coalition which might be even worse. The Christian Democrats have been rebuffing these coals to renegotiate negotiate but in the end if they want to avoid elections next year they're going to have to give in on something they might give into something. I mean we really now in the in the early hours they say nothing room for maneuver and Knowing Angela Merkel she will try to find a way that they may be renegotiate associated some social policies some tax policies that The new as Padilla ship can can get out of this face saving. But as I said before I don't think it's a good option for the SP to cause breakdown of the coalition German business community has reacted already. This morning has set The Cook what isn't government should stop navel-gazing and look at the challenges of the future like digital modernism modernizing gem in digital he'll systems Looking for more progressively into climate change or climate protection and not being so self-focused. So I think both parties have an interest to solve their Their their frustrations and that they are the rows with each other because they will both suffer the pulse. Angela Merkel has already said that you weren't contest the next federal election though it sounds like at this rate had time office maybe ending little sooner than we may have thought it might be the case again if you I think it's something like seventy five percent of the German public says they do not want the coalition to To to end they wanted to continue until September. Twenty twenty one when there is the next regular election federal election and also the WHO does. It's not have any well not strong interest in a in early poll nutty election because they have problems with to decide who they actually really want to run as the successor of America. So they have unagreed come cannonball. WHO's the common defense secretary? And she's also the leader of the city but she's highly unpopular. Actually only two weeks ago. There was a party conference by the CD where she offered to resignation. Because the tensions are so high in the city you so the the city was not ready either to fight a election campaign and therefore I think at the end of the day none of the two big parties has any interest to to eleven addiction. The only party. That hasn't a party that has can have a reason to go funny action at the Greens because the Green Party has the best pulse for a very long time. We were discussing earlier in the program the change in leadership in the F. D. Party as well and you would have thought that those in the political mainstream wouldn't you wanted to create uncertainty in the risk of election at a time when the FDA is trying to build support. Well the I if t is certainly Louis very popular and especially in East Germany but the decision The new leadership now off the AFDC which is even more right-wing sinophobic Lebed leadership. The I mean that remains to be seen how many people continue voting for the AFDC having in mind that the leaders are well. Outspoken Anti antisemites. SINOPHOBIC I think it's because until now the AFC also got a lot of protests voters and. I think those people will think twice if they would want Want to vote for this kind of Party A. Stephanie Balsam. Thank you very much
The East German punks who helped bring down the Berlin Wall
"Berlin Wall. Couldn't keep all Western culture out. And it couldn't keep old East berliners down inspired by the music born over the wall by radio radio stations in West Berlin. A spirited and resourceful punk rock scene flourished in the city's east to more author of burning down the House that's H. Cia. US punk rock revolution and the fall of the Berlin Wall joins me to countdown his East German punk rock top five tim first of all before we stopped. Stop playing the songs. How did punk rock find? Its Way to East Germany. You could pick up western radio almost the entire country of Germany and so everybody talks about the first time they heard the pistols usually on KNBR forces radio or BBC and that was just a moment that changed people's lives. It was so different from anything that ever heard. NFL Ika switches me sore inside them. How soon did it take root the first hearings that people had of the sex pistols? So I'm guessing this is seventy six seventy seven. How quickly did jump the fence? The first punk in East Berlin was a fifteen year old. A girl who went by the name major and that was September nineteen seventy seven and within less than a year. She already had thirty five opened on her and she was labeled enemy of the state and in her case case. That led to constant attainments interrogation and despite that a senior rounder. They wait until she turned eighteen and they arrested or tried her put in jail offer year and Stacey prison and that she slept with what's called the Berlin fabled meaning that when she got out of prison they took her mmediately to a textile facility in the middle of nowhere and she was expected to work there for the next next five years. And be sort of politically rehabilitated. And would not see your family or friends. She ran away almost immediately. Back to East Berlin was rearrested put back and Stacey prison for eighteen months and then at the end of that term ex patriot. Meaning they to ship off the West Germany to Take care of problem. This first strike is called. MFS which is the determine initials for the Ministry for State Security which is the study by benkhaled nominal since from nineteen eighty to about four or five years after ground zero of companies Germany. You can kind of see how the Stasi on GonNa go for conquer. Well they also make a direct comparison between the dossier and Hitler's S S which did not overrule on an explicitly. Anti Fascist in the music was their tool that is just how they fought dictatorships of the music. Wasn't they weren't trying to be tickly. Artful I don't think it was all about the message. And whereas other activists groups had a more reformist approach let's change Environmental regulations are some of the legal system. The punks just said screw. The system was bringing down and that was a really powerful message especially for bringing you to their costs. One of the interesting things about normalises day ended ended up going to prison for almost two years for their lyrics in nineteen ninety-three and I think what happened to them. During that process shows why the scene became so important as far as being a significant it can force in the revolution. They constantly were offered to go to the West. When they're in jail the wooden really rather just go to the west and the member the kept saying no? We're GONNA stay here and fight because that was quite coleman wave dispensing with troublemakers. Wasn't yeah exactly but two punks mostly rejected that and they insisted that they can stay and fight. And I think that basically the big Goan in in a place like East Germany was what happens when you run afoul of the secret police. The Sasi and the punks did that experiment. And what they proved was in going through the jail terms going through the payments going through interogations the blacklisting from jobs in schools the conscription into army units specialising political reeducation and the fact that they came back and kept fighting. That was a game changing revelation. Because it showed that you could resist and survive and that's deal the resolve of a lot of the opposition minded people within the country in that in turn allowed the protest move out into the streets worker then snowball into the big mass protests that we know from eighty nine. Let's move along out to sean climate. At what point to divide join the revolution. They're very early. Bantu and there are unique because they come from a little farm town in the south of East Germany and end and yet they became if anything. It's not really a star type culture but there was closest star system. We're in the eastern or Pengzi. How big was it possible to get? I'm guessing terrifically it couldn't record you couldn't play except in churches and get on the radio so yeah it was very limited seen it first and everything had to be done very personally. So you couldn't do mail wasn't security consent flyers for shows. The phones weren't security. Couldn't call friends say you're doing a Gig so it all had to be done through what they call the whisper network person to person. We're doing a GIG. And he told that friend Ephron told another friend but by eighty three they were getting concerts in the thousands. And that's when the stuff you really crackdown but Shaun calm created in nineteen eighty-four after they had some the trouble with this dossier has resulted crackdown. They created the song called clue which means sort of like the tomboys the people that get beaten by the police and it has a line in there. We are the people. We are power and punks from Leipzig claim that that is the source of the chant. That became the sort of signature chant during the marches of eighty nine lexus. which was the people? The
"east germany" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"GDR east Germany's eagerness to gain recognition and make friends in Africa it was even picked up by the BBC in the German service they poke fun at east Germany's solidarity efforts when broadcasting a sketch in the weekly series the two comrades it's a special in secret it was aimed at those living in the eastern half and gave voice to those who were critical of the east German regime standard of living in a translated extract let's eavesdrop on what these two party officials have to say about relations between East Germany and Africa we have good relations with them we provide them with smashing eight those revolutionaries a total of two and a half million US forces some very country singles enough money that Sir Africa is simply more important that's why we are now sending down solidarity ships with food medication doctors well welcome right we tional seafood offices but yes as long as Africans overall risk placed with east Germany's leader at the time so clearly not everyone embraced his solidarity strategy as east Germans themselves was struggling to achieve a decent standard of living east Germany's activities need to be communicated and radio played an important role when reaching out to Africa especially in the nineteen sixties first because literacy rates were relatively low and secondly for those who could read newspapers were hard to get hold of despite that some listeners did write to the station since I was young I like to write to loads I really like to to show them on the feedback of what I was hearing I was writing a lot about current affairs I bow to their political system the the activities of waste your money towards Africa we responded to every letter for instance we received up to one hundred thousand little scea that close the Swahili group alone and I always say it when the buy a stamp then they'll spending a lot of money to be in touch with us therefore we heads to reply to those letters the writing a lots of letters in return and they brought to me post cause and dissident and they broke me books newsletter house even a small radio despite the I was also getting from the chip because I was also writing a lot because I like to travel a a special on sports there are very good in sports at radio Berlin International the mail back predominantly contained post from Nigeria Ghana and Tanzania it was a great way to bond with business although some enquiries with politically or quit as heights autumn on admits did you ever get listener letters asking about German division all of the Berlin Wall young as we know it yes they regretted that he's a believer but we could not publish these letters because we could not work against our own government after the news the second half of come right Africa with me and they all of a distribution of the BBC world service news hour the US is made possible by American public media producer and distributor of award winning public radio content eight PM American public media.
Over 100,000 celebrate 30 years since fall of Berlin Wall
"Walls weather meant to keep people out or keep the men's separated and apart have a way of falling with the thirtieth anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall at hand Holly Hubbard pressen has this perspective on the evening of November ninth nineteen eighty nine I was seated at a bar in San Francisco celebrating my birthday with friends when I looked up at the television and my jaw dropped pictured on the screen where east and west Berliners hacking away at the cement wall that had divided them for twenty eight years the jubilant scene so unexpected in my lifetime moved me to tears the eight hundred and sixty six mile long barrier system that divided east and West Germany including Berlin was supposed to stand for another fifty even one hundred years that's what Eric Honecker east Germany's last president told the nation ten months before the communist regime collapsed and he was forced to resign the prior year right a company to German friend on a visit to our family in West Berlin in her car we traveled from the very across the border into East Germany where we were confined to the heavily armed transport corridor that led to the democratic island city that was West Berlin though I traveled through the Soviet block before this was my first trip to West Berlin and the experience rattled me I had west German friends with relatives in the east who hadn't seen one another in decades not because they didn't want to but because the communist regime would not allow it fearing that such familial exchanges would undermine its ideology reflecting back on those long ago images I'm reminded of the impermanence of walls today Germany as a unified country the U. S. less so one no physical while separates Americans from one another the country is clearly divided what separates us is not cement or barbed wire but race religion class and politics if I've learned anything from the German unification thirty years ago it's that differences need not divide and that the will of the people makes for a mighty pick ax when held in a defiant collective
Germany marks 30 years since fall of Berlin Wall
"Germany marking thirty years since the fall of the Berlin Wall chancellor Angela Merkel grew up in East Germany he said today quote no wall that keeps people out and restricts freedom is so high so why it can't be broken down thanks as Amy Kellogg in Berlin America is listening to foster W. O. A. I. local news didn't police say two people died this afternoon after an eighteen Wheeler blew up near mile marker eighty four after hitting two other vehicles three people are hospitalized and should
Germany celebrates 30 years since fall of Berlin Wall
"Germany is commemorating the fall of the Berlin Wall thirty years ago today it was built in nineteen sixty one to cut off the part of Berlin liberated by western allies from communist East Germany and the Soviet bloc Veronica's are Govia reports German chancellor Ongole Americal pay tribute to those who suffered under the east German regime chancellor Merkel spoke at the Berlin Wall memorial she said many people were killed here and thousands imprisoned trying to flee from the west side is now we want to ensure that no one the finishes off separate people again it proves to us that no one is so high and so strong that we cannot play catch her through a live interpreter from German broadcaster Deutsche Avella Merkel also brought up the **** attacks against Jews on this date in nineteen thirty eight a celebration of the fall of the wall takes place at the Brandenburg gate where president Ronald Reagan famously made his tear down this wall
Germany, allies mark 30 years since Berlin Wall fell
"Leaders from Germany Poland Hungary Slovakia and the Czech Republic have attended a certainly up but now Strasse well one of the Los pulse of the Berlin Wall remains the nineteen eighty nine protests and a stream of people fleeing East Germany pile pressure on the country's communist government to open its borders to the west and ultimately end the nation's post war division German chancellor Angela Merkel speaking at a memorial service in a small chapel near where the woman wants to know what keeps people out and restricts freedom is so high also wide the kombi broken down she reminded that the fight for freedom worldwide isn't over yet I'm Charles river that's my
"east germany" Discussed on AM 1350 WEZS
"In the meantime we try to you know scanned the horizon to thing we had to avoid the the the cap and tell us first we try to avoid all the communist mole our ship during that time you know the are all you know the communists who had his back you know hold on you know east Germany's so that you can you name it so in those ship communist ships the US they wanna call us right back to Vietnam and we gonna be in big trouble in the meantime we also realize is private because we learned that a lot of people you know but he got raped and you know taken by he went on that so we have to watch out for those boats you also we tried to look for some ship that can you know can save us and and so when we try to avoid the come this ship because we can see through a binocular a little bit you know certain the flag which are you avoiding the next and we know we lost you know the directions and we lost you know no we went out you know we lost our route and you know most of the captains and his helpers did not know though see that well so we also so by the storm that night and the funding was that when we were in the midst of that storm Kate there was this in dead as Catholic too so the cabin the the quickest pray we can pray is the hail Mary because it by the time we pray that our father I probably beat me the end of our life.
"east germany" Discussed on 850 WFTL
"Elected president of Russia. A new book Putin's kleptocracy who owns Russia. Karen, delicious, the author. Karen, professor the Walter e. I professor political science department of political science Miami university in Oxford, Ohio. She is also a person who keeps very careful notes and her observation of Latimer Putin in two thousand and seven an anecdote a witticism for Russian speakers is helping everyone understand that Putin is earthy and violent and comprehensive and paranoid. And he gets the joke. The joke is that Russia is under his control here in two thousand fourteen in two thousand and seven he was only at that time twice elected president of Russia. Feeling good about the world. And he was making remarks about how it is that people have sons that they appoint to their jobs. Karen, very good evening to you. As I understand this. You attended this event. They joke was about why it is that Bank managers have a point or Bank ministers appoint their sons to be. Come back ministers and in in interchange. I take it from your footnote, Vladimir Putin was asked why it is that they couldn't appoint these sons to the army and his joke or the witticism was never going to happen after all generals have their own sons much laughter. Help us understand this. Why do Russians find this funny? Good evening to you. Karen? Thank you for having me on the on the program. Well, I think that was a situation in which he was meeting annually with western academics and journalists, and he was being pressed by an American economist about nepotism, and it's it's rampant nature in in Russia may extend it was having a big effect on the efficiency of the government. You know, he basically just the whole thing off as as a way of telling us that there's nothing anybody can do about this. This is the way it's always been the way it's always gonna be and they were rushing to. And they thought it was just extremely hysterical. And that's that's much of the Vladimir Putin. I am the same character. I'm meet throughout your books throughout his career. This is the way Russia is deal with it prosper in it understand that it's violent. It's nepotistic and at the same time it moves in gangs. So let's go back to bladder Putin. The man born in nineteen fifty two and early on in his career. He bangs at the door of the KGB and Petersburg, and he joins the KGB eventually in nineteen seventy five. He is he's a sturdy athletic, very aggressive person who has German, and we'll pick up his story when he's assigned to Dresden in Germany. What did he do for the KGB? What was his task there? Well, he was some of the things we know he was doing what he was watching other. Russians. Have he was in counterintelligence? He was making sure none of them were being. Recruited by the west. Was in charge of the local communist party. So he was a communist official, and he was on the communist party committee for all of east Germany for the for the Russians, but he was also involved directly in in stealing economic can technological secrets from west Germany. So we also what's recruiting people who were students in in east, Germany. He was trying to run agents and to the west and to seamans and big firms like that definitely interested in stealing the secrets. So he was a jack-of-all-trades and would have been not a major KGB officer. But certainly demonstrating that he had capabilities to rise in the organization, right? He was he, you know, this is important because many people have chosen to portray him his career in east, Germany is lackluster. I think that that's not a correct reading. He was very young when he went there, and he was given awards. He was he was much younger than the average recipient of awards. And he he probably was involved in other kind of secret operation, he came to the notice a very top-ranking KGB officials, which is critical for his subsequent rise. There's a photograph reproduced in your book that is magnificent. I mean, it's the beginning of a mini series drama the rise. It's taken January twenty four thousand nine hundred eighty nine wise that data important the Berlin walls going to come down this year the Soviet Union's going to end this year. But this is the beginning of the year January. It's cold we're at the first guards tank army museum to commemorate the seventy first anniversary of the formation of the checker the seventieth anniversary of the formation of the Soviet military defense organs, the you. In other words, the spies spy. Is all gathered in this room Putin's in the picture, but nowhere near the center who are all those other bet. Well, those are the people who were whom with whom he worked. So there were millet certainly military intelligence their east German and Soviet, but there were also people with whom she would establish close relations from that time onward and who are still close to him today. It's a picture. That's never never been reproduced. Before I found it in the archives. It's magnificent carry great. And they're they look very much like the annual meeting. We did really. Well, we beat all of our quotas for car sales this year. That's what it looks like a fuel the Marin uniforms. I do notice that detail. Yes. Exactly. And if you'll notice to I didn't notice a sometime, I don't know if you can see it in the reproduction on either side of the room one one case is right next to Putin. They're to figure who faces have been whited out. I do see that. Yeah. I hadn't noticed that before. Yeah. So they're obviously illegals who, you know, or they're on the, you know, they also got to go on the school field trip because this is a very tight Hollywood script. Also in this picture of a man is a man named Matthias warning what significance is he does. He have well Varney worked for the Stasi. And and he also like Putin was doing economic intelligence amongst other things he had his his own agents in west Germany, and it is said that Putin recruit him recruited him for the KGB in the dying days of the east German regime. And that he brought his network with him. That's something. Obviously, we don't have any proof of that is what is what what one was one of the conclusions. Barnard turns up in the operation note that he's a member of the board of governors of Bank Rossiya righted by two thousand and twelve so this is really a long standing relationship with east Germany with the former Stasi and the Ovonic would be very comfortable dealing with the president of Russia today. Well, they were they were in it together from the very beginning. Vinik open, the very first German, the very first foreign Bank in some Petersburg over the signature of Putin is a license. This is the period when the walls about to fall, and Vladimir Putin is about to be threatened by the world changing of the actually crumbling under his feet. He had he he could see where it was going in this photograph in January and by January of the next year nineteen ninety he would have felt that he was an unemployed sub. That's right all those people were being withdrawn back to Russia because Germany. Was getting ready to be reunited, so they where were they going to go? What were they going to do? He he went back unemployed and drove a taxi for a while. We'll go to Petersburg next member. Vladimir Putin is from Petersburg, and this is the rise of a political actor of world scale. He's three terms president of Russia. Russia did not have a democracy before the renovations in the nineteen ninety s and.
"east germany" Discussed on What Really Happened?
"Somebody is shredding a lot of documents on the night. The Berlin Wall fell well, most in east Germany and around the world celebrated there was worry. Elsewhere. This takes our story to Dresden Germany, where KGB officer was likely very angry that officer Vladimir Putin. He was busy that night. Referring to secret documents. He later say we burn so much that the oven almost exploded Vladimir Putin and ongoing Merckel or only two years apart in age born in nineteen fifty two and nineteen fifty four respectively. Both have a love for Russian literature. In fact, Merckel only has one photo in her office. And it's a silver framed portrait of Catherine the great a ruler of Russia who among other things manipulated different men too. Expand our thority in Merkel's early teenage years when not tumbling down a hill. She competed in a national Russian-language Olympia a competition for kids who are actually two years older, and she got third place. The prize was a trip to Moscow, she would take home first place only two years later and direct silence in school garnered attention. It's also worth pointing out that uncle Merkel's ability to speak different languages didn't just come from her jeans just outside of the town where that young curious girl grew up was one of the last Soviet military bases just outside of the Soviet Union. It was home to the twenty fifth armor division designed in the nineteen fifties. As a military base of the sixteenth air army of the Soviet forces. When military members pass through town, a young Merckel, then still ongo kosner would prey. Actes her Russian with the troops. How good was her Russian a hundred percent good. It got to the point where east Germany tried to recruit her as a spy a government file reads, although ongo tends to see the leading role of the Soviet Union as something of a dictatorship to which all other socialist countries are subordinate, she isn't who's iast about the Russian language and the culture of the Soviet Union craziest that but make no mistake. The curious teenager was also seemingly entrenched with the western world. She had picked up a Beatles album while in Moscow at school she'd go to the bathroom, so she could listen to the west German elections. She knew the names of every member of the cabinet and above all else. She knew not to talk about it. This was embedded in young on Gola by her family. Don't forget anyone could be an informant in east Germany. And stash e agents knew just through school records envelope was a star. And so they tried to have her work for them and Merckel put on a show. Well, a Merckel show. There was silence. She played overly innocent. She said she couldn't hold secrets. And would later say yes, learning went to keep quiet was a great advantage in the GDR. It was one of our survival strategies Merckel made the most of the freedom..
"east germany" Discussed on Omnibus! With Ken Jennings and John Roderick
"But as soon as the wall came down, it it came down with the quickness she was probably there at unification them. And the place where they had them live was east, Germany was an east Germany east Berlin. And had formerly been a style listening post. So every room in their house had like eight phone jacks, which was amazingly convenient. So until you really until you had a mental image of what was going on in your living room or your guest room guys French previous exactly, so I went to the first time, I visited east Berlin. It was six months. I guess before the wall came down. It was like in mayor June of of eighty are you taking credit? No, no as a result. No. They were not impressed by me. I went over and changed money and had this astonishing number of of eastern deutschemarks that I struggled to spend. And I went to the nicest restaurant in east Berlin. With a couple of like American friends, and we had a lavish and disgusting meal and were drunk, you ordered every bottle of everything. We're loud. And just the worst kind of man. I mean, we didn't we weren't wearing college sweatshirts that said like Dartmouth. So we weren't the worst kind of Americans. I mean, we at least looked like you didn't help the welcome. Now, you probably kept it up for a few months. Yeah. Like the ball the law when it comes out a few months earlier, if you guys that just been a little better behaved at dinner. It was kind of crazy that you could go over there and spend a day. I mean, you couldn't spend the night, but we spent a day and and struggled to to spend the amount of deutschemarks that we were forced to change. But then I I was in. I was in Florence and picked up the International Herald Tribune in it said crazy things going on in Berlin. And it was November ninth or something like that. And I immediately I didn't have. There was no reason for me to be in Florence. I had already exhausted all of the people that might have hosted me, and they were your travel is based not on first attractions, but who has attached? Yeah. They were. Well, ready? For me to to be gone. And so I jumped on a train and showed up in Berlin, you know, a day and a half later, and are you in the videos like with a hammer I looked for myself in every photograph. I mean, I had really long hair, and I had a hammer, and I found it on the wall, and I sat on top of it. And people took my picture there were lots of photographers there. But I've never found myself in all of those books and reports I'm just like come on one picture is all I ask just let my experience be documented by one notable. I love this idea of US. I'm kind of Forrest Gump character popping up at every important juncture of history. Yeah, I like it too. But it's unfortunately like as far as the world is concerned. It's I'm invisible. I do pop up everywhere. But I'm I'm not even sure am I real maybe you'll if this holds maybe you'll get to see track sixty one someday is this is this Garfield without Garfield. Are you just John like talking pathetically to himself? Everyone else who listens to this podcast. Just hears me talking. I have created you. But the the when Berlin was first unified there were all those ghosts stations which actually have a name in German guy stood on the hor- gosh star bond Hof ghost trains in early. Go stations in they were perfectly preserved in their ninth or not perfectly, but they were preserved in their state in nineteen sixty one what they had been with advertisements on the walls on ice and little, you know, direction signs and old phones and stuff in the offices. And so the German transit authorities wanted to reopen these stations, but they didn't quite have the sentimentality for eastern Europe that we do now. And so they didn't keep any of the old ads. They didn't preserve any of the stations in there guys to bounce off in their haunted state. They're they're shy Sabban Hof state. They could've you know, put up plexiglass over the old Shirley today you walked through. And it's just all these sixties era ads for north soups, or whatever people would love it. But..