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What would Dwayne Haskins bring to Giants? Land Grant Holy Land's Patrick Mayhorn tells us

Big Blue View

21:48 min | 1 year ago

What would Dwayne Haskins bring to Giants? Land Grant Holy Land's Patrick Mayhorn tells us

"Welcome giants fans. You are listening to the Valentine's views podcast here on big blue view radio part of the SP nation family of podcasts. I'm your host at Val anti big blue view today's show is going to focus on the New York Giants quarterback situation as the off season begins to roll along. The quarterback situation is the one right now, that's in the news constantly, the one that has all of the questions surrounding it. What is the future of Eli manning? What will the giants do in the draft? Will they look to replace ally? You know with a veteran placeholder, you know, while they look for their quarterback of the future today a little bit later. We're going to be joined by Patrick may horn of SP nations, Ohio State website land grant holy land. Patrick, and I recorded a. Russian about Dwayne Haskins the house Ojo state quarterback who's considered to be the the top quarterback available in the upcoming draft class will play that for you a little bit later rate. Now, though just wanted to talk a little bit about the giants options going forward at quarterback in two thousand and nineteen. I still believe that as long as he wants to play that did giants intend to bring ally manning back next season. And at this point, I believe that remains to be their best short term option when it comes to veteran quarterbacks. I there's a lot of interest in Nick foles of the Philadelphia Eagles have written at big blue view. I simply don't think that's a realistic option for the giants fact is even if the eagles decide that they wanted to trade foles. Why would they move foles too? To a team within division. Not to mention the fact that why would the giants turn around and give several draft picks to the eagles. That would help the eagles set themselves up for even more future. Success a deal between those two teams just doesn't make sense. And really neither does the idea that the eagles would allow foles to become a free agent. I simply don't see that happening. Not when they could be able to trade foles, you know for draft choices for things that can help them in the future. I seriously doubt they would just allow foles to walk away. Another option. People can consistently talk about his teddy Bridgewater, and considering the Bridgewater hasn't played in three years. I'm just I'm not convinced that Bridgewater is a guy that you can build around. He was not impressive in the one game. He played at the end of the season. For the New Orleans Saints, and we can't make a definitive judgment off of that. But the thing about Bridgewater is that even if you sign Bridgewater. I think you need to go into the draft. And find yourself a plan b because I'm just not convinced at this point. Teddy Bridgewater is a long-term answer the third name that keeps coming up is Joe flacco of the Baltimore Ravens. It's apparent that. The ravens are going to move on from flacco with Lamar Jackson having taken over that job in Baltimore thing about Flaco. When I look at it, though, it only makes sense to me to bring flacco to the giants. If he li- manning were to retire. Simple reason that flacco. Yes, he's younger than manning. But he's basically the same quarterback. He's an older quarterback. Not really a mobile quarterback guy who. Probably in my view at this point is probably not even as good as Eli manning at this point. So any is also more expensive than than ally. If you look at their two thousand and nineteen cap hits. So that one doesn't make sense to me unless the giants are in a situation where ally manning decides he does not want to play in two thousand and nineteen. There's no way I could see the giants going out and intentionally replacing manning with flacco, at least that's not something that I would do. So you know, that leads us to to the draft. And obviously things have gotten a little bit interesting in the draft class with Dwayne Haskins of Ohio State having declared and now this week with the news that Keiler Murray, the the Heisman Trophy winner from Oklahoma is perhaps going to declare for the for the draft something. That people didn't think he was going to do since he's already signed a baseball contract with the Oakland days. There are talent evaluators out there who believe that Murray a smaller quarterback at five nine or five ten is a guy who still a first round talent, perhaps a late first round kind of a pick. So that just adds intrigue to the situation. But today, let's focus on Dwayne Haskins. And to do that let's play for you an interview that I did with Patrick may horn of Espy nations land grant holy land regarding Haskins. Okay. Giants fans we are joined now by Patrick may horn of SP nations, Ohio State website land grant holy land. And Patrick is here to to talk about someone that the giants fans are very interested in these days that would be quarterback Dwayne Haskins. Patrick, how are you? I'm doing great. How are you? I'm good. Thank you very much for spending a few minutes with me today. You know? Hey, so so let's just start with this. Have you since Haskins declared for the draft. You have have you seen sort of the the hysteria in in giants land these days. Yeah. I think that that would be a pretty good way to describe it. I'm I'm not as tuned into NFL fan basis as I am to to college fan bases. But I have certainly seen just in like the replies to his tweets. And from various giants fans that I do happen to follow online. And it seems like people are very excited about him. And I think for for good reason because he's he's a very very interesting quarterback is a very interesting player. And I can certainly, you know from watching him all your I can certainly understand. Why people are so excited about him. Well, you know, I'm sure that it was a a PR thing. But did he really have to go in and put, you know, a drawing of himself in a giants uniform on social media. Duane is. This is something that Ohio State fans. Have I don't know if enjoy endured is the white right word because it's really not. I mean, he's just he likes to play the social media game a little bit. He likes to he likes to tease fans a little bit. And he he spent several weeks after the the season ended saying that you know, he might come back. He might go. He's he's fifty fifty. And I think that he's the guy who you know, he's he's what twenty twenty one years old. He's he's a young guy who likes the social media attention. He likes that. He can he can drum up so much hype. From, you know, a graphic tweeted out, and I think that he's definitely a guy who is, you know, he's not going to take everything super seriously all the time. And that's that's part of what makes him, you know, such a likable character and such a such a fan favourite at Ohio State is. That he's got this more laid back side. He's he's a leader. And he's able to you know to focus in when the game is actually happening but off the field. He's this very fun. Very joyous person. And I think that that comes through in his social media that's interesting because that's a little bit different than the the current New York Giants quarterback near the guy. That's been the franchise guy for the last decade in a half, you know, ally manning, I'm not sure even knows what Twitter Instagram. Yeah. That would probably be fair to say. But you know, let's talk a little bit about Haskins the player, did you expect this what you got from Haskins this year entering the season a guy that was really a first year starter. Did you expect what we saw a guy that wound up in the Heisman Trophy conversation? I was on the I was on the side of Dwayne when there was a quarterback battle in the spring between him and LSU quarterback Joe borough. And I was I was pretty confident that Dwayne was going to be very good. And I think that that almost makes it more significant. How surprised I was that. He was as good as he was I you know, I expected that he would step in and be a a very solid starting quarterback immediately. But I did not, you know, even in like, the the the best of the best. I did not imagine that he would be a Heisman finalists thawing for almost five thousand yards fifty touchdowns. He was just excellent. And I think that coming into the season we knew that his potential was sky high his his arm talent his just ability to play the game. But we didn't know that he would be so polished so ready to play right away. And he he really did. I think just blow away the whole fan base. And that's even you know, I even I was blown away. And I expected quite a bit of Dwayne. I thought he was going to be a very very good player. I thought it might just be a couple years down the road not as a redshirt sophomore first year starter. So was there, you know, what you would basically call an aha moment a sort of own my God. What have we got here? This guy is really really good. Was there? One of those moments or one of those games where that realization just sort of set it settled in during the season. I think that the the game where he really shined the most may not have been an aha moment. But the TCU game released stands out to me is a, you know, this guy is for real moment. But even from the first game against Oregon state. He he came out, and it just the offense felt completely different from what it did under J T Barrett. It it felt like you could really trust whenever he was going to drop back that he was going to make a play. He was games going to you know, be willing to throw the ball anywhere on the field. And that it would get to the receiver and the the confidence that he plays with the way that he carries himself on the field and the throws that he makes really from the get-go he was firing all on also under and I think later on in the season against teams like Michigan northwestern, and then Washington to indices, and he was really at his peak. But even going back to just the beginning of the euro member him making throws that I've I've never seen Buckeye quarterback. Make before. So I think it was almost immediate a stern as he stepped onto the field. But he he went and proved himself against TCU against Penn State in these these big moments and stepped up and continued to make those big throws kind of made you realize that this was you know, he's the real deal. This guy is a an NFL talent. And one of the if not the most talented quarterback in school history. So if you look at it, you know, obviously, he put up great numbers this year. He's QB one, you know on on pretty much every analysts draft board at this point. And yet, he's only got the fourteen college starts. Are there any sort of red flags for you or concerns about Haskins as an NFL quarterback? I think that the the main concerns for me, and they're not I wouldn't call them red flags because personally, I think Dwayne Hassans is going to be an extremely successful enough. Oh quarterback. But the the hangups that he's had this season that showed up a little bit against the against Penn State where in the fourth quarter, Ohio State pretty much had to go to an all screens all underneath offense, and it showed up a little bit against Purdue at showed up a little bit later on in the season. In the second half of the Washington game is his ability to handle pressure or lack thereof and it improved quite a bit. As the season went on. I think the walking got better too. But early on in the year. He really didn't. He didn't seem to know what to do when there was heavy pressure in his face. And he I think relied on his his pure, arm talent and athletic ability, a little bit too much at times early on in the season where he would you know, he would see a guy blitzing. He would see a guy getting close to. Him and he wouldn't think decided feet for she'd just oh the ball with his arm, and you would see some accuracy issues. You would see some some decisions that weren't necessarily the ideal thing you would want your quarterback to be doing where he's throwing it into triple coverage is trusting his arm a little bit too much. And that really it faded down the stretch. It was not a it was not as big of a deal in the last couple of games, especially against Michigan a defense that I thought was going to give him a lot of trouble. He he didn't struggle at all of them. But I do think that it'll be a bit of a learning curve for him to get into the NFL and to to face defenses that you know, weekend week out can get pressure on the quarterback. And I think that he will have to he'll have to shore up his his technique a little bit when it comes to setting his feet when it comes to not just doing the the first thing that comes to mind, and and trying to you know, trying to do too much. He he has to not necessarily learn, but he has to improve his. Ability to play within himself and trust his his mechanics and trust his technique rather than trying to resort to just using his arm to to make those because that's when he starts to get in trouble. So let's talk about this aspect of Haskins entering the NFL, you know, in two thousand eighteen I think we saw five quarterbacks. Taken in the first round all of those quarterbacks wound up playing a significant amount. If not starting you know, right from the get go in the two thousand eighteen season with the giants. We don't know right now if Eli manning is going to be back next year. I tend to think he will be regardless of what the giants do in the draft at quarterback. Is haskins. Or would he be better off in a situation? Like that say with the giants where there was a veteran in place who probably would play, you know, most of the time in two thousand and nineteen you know, a guy that he could kind of sit and learn from would that be a good situation for Haskins going forward. I think that if he does get to spend a year behind a guy like ally manning, it would be helpful for his development. I think that that is a situation. He would probably thrive in just, you know, learning from a veteran quarterback how to how to handle pressure a little better how to stick to those those techniques like I mentioned, but I also think if Eli manning is to retire. And if if Dwayne is the starter from day one, I think he can handle that he he might not have a a rookie season on the level of like Baker Mayfield. Then I think that you will see some. Young quarterbacks struggles as you would with any rookie. But I think that really regardless of the situation Dwayne going to be able to adapt and handle it and ultimately thrive. He's he's done it at Ohio State now. And I think the NFL's obviously a different game. It's a it's a different experience. But I think that he has the maturity the the field will wear nece the intelligence, and then ultimately the natural ability where whatever the situation the giants or any other team put him in. He'll be able to succeed, you know, either from the John bore after a year or two on the bench. I I'm not I'm not super worried about that Slask question for you in regards to to Haskins and New York, you've talked a little bit about his social media. You talked a little bit about, you know, he likes to have fun. You know, New York is a little bit of a different animal in the way that it treats its athletes in the way that it treats its quarterbacks. Just in terms of the media and the pressure that gets put on some of these some of these guys. Can he handle the New York environment? I know that Dwayne growing up was in. He's from Maryland. He's he's used to the the northeast and he's used to living in a city if I remember correctly. And the, you know, the New York the New York bright lights, so to speak and the the media attention infanta tension. He'll get there certainly going to be an adjustment. But I think that if there's ever been an Ohio State quarterback that I've seen even a college football quarterback that I've seen that is able to to handle that attention and thrive in it. It's him. He he is the these the exact kind of personality that can survive and really make that that attention work for him. He he is a. I don't want to say that he's built to be a superstar because he's still he's such a young quarterback. They're still so much that he's going to be you know, improving onto his game and changing about his game. And it's just it's impossible to say with one hundred percent certainty that any young quarterback will become you know, a a great player a guy who thrives. But I do think that his personality the way that he carries himself has confidence. I think Joel super well with New York, I think that on and off the field. He's the kind of guy who can really not just not just live in that system and kind of make it work around him and kind of try to ignore it as much as he can. But I think that it's something that he would really delight in. I think that having that that fan base having that attention as something that he almost you know, almost was missing at Ohio State, and that's that's strange to say because Ohio State has such a massive fan base. But I think. Duane is more than willing to be that, you know, that media darling. More than willing to be that guy who has to carry the the weight of a whole city as the quarterback in. I think that's something. He would really enjoy doing interesting Patrick. Thank you very much for spending. Some some time with us perhaps. We'll get we'll get back with you guys a little bit closer to the draft regarding you know, some of the other Ohio State draft prospects. Really appreciate your taking a few minutes. Of course. Happy to come on, man. Hey, no. Thank you. Okay. Giants fans we think Patrick may horn of land grant holy land for spending some time with us dropping some knowledge about Dwayne Haskins. They potential pick for the New York Giants at number six in the upcoming NFL draft. Also wanted to remind you please subscribe to big blue view radio on all of your favorite podcast applications. Check out our Facebook page. Check us out on Instagram. 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Eli's 'Sendoff' Goes According To Plan

Boomer & Gio

19:38 min | 8 months ago

Eli's 'Sendoff' Goes According To Plan

"Live from the Investors Bank studio boomer assize in Greg G. and Ati boomer and Geo on the fan simulcast across the country on CBS sports network. Mark Good Monday morning. It happened yesterday at Metlife Stadium. Something we have not seen in months and months and months a New York giants victory and as Eli Manning said it was a special day was a special victory for the giants it was is indeed the Eli sendoff game not only did. They beat the dolphins and beat them. Comfortably Eli Manning. Had his moment Pat Shurmur are brings Alex Tanny while Eli Manning is still on the field and Eli gets sees sendoff. He gets his standing ovation. He gets the moment he deserved. There'll be other ones every retires. I know that you know when he comes back to metlife stadium years from now and they retire the number and they bring back all the championship. ob-gyn teams I have those moments too but when you're in the uniform and you get to come off the field and still get appreciate it and to get that win to get back. Act Two five hundred. It was great and I know that there's videos out there the big standing ovation and everybody cheering for him. And it looks like the stadium is about a quarter full big deal and I'm not gonNA blame any giant fan that wanted to leave early in a horrible weather and a bad add game too bad teams but the ones that stayed got that treat the ones that were there got to send off Eli Manning and the way that he deserved to be sendoff there are plenty of videos and pictures and everything of him and his kids. It was great. This is why eighty percent of the listening audience. I wanted the giant fans. At least the Eli sendoff game for that moment right there and no I do not believe for for those who are going to call up and scream that yesterday. Yesterday screwed up their draft choice next two weeks could depending on how they play but yesterday did not they still would strengths of strength of schedule as the number two overall pick good morning boomer. How are you Ali and morning? Joe SARS little late. I was looking for my earpiece and then amy gave me something she made this morning. Amy Lawrence Yeah. Yeah so I got all caught up out there in the in the newsroom via yes there was a great day. This exactly what the giants they wanted it and I got a great send off and very few players in this league of ever been able to do that or have that happened. Sure right so good for him now. The reality is what. What's next what what is going to happen with the giants in the off season an energy just talking about the strength of schedule and the Tanka thon and all that other stuff? You're right next weakest chase young bowl with the redskins and the giants. Yeah sure now. There's no doubt that that head to head will matter between the two because obviously the worst I record out of all of these teams. That's going to be the first thing that breaks ties but then after that it strength of schedule now the dolphins also you know. They've got the bengals next week. The dolphins so if they went another gain they're sort of sort of going to be out of it but yeah. I think that most likely whoever ends up losing next last week between the giants and the Redskins the number two overall pick and we believe that at least at this stage in mid December that it's going to be chased young but those things change of course by the day once we get closer to address if somebody gets injured one of their bowl games or something like that you just you just never know right but the thing that the thing also is that. Ah It's The Washington redskins so it's in your division and like the last thing you want is a team like the Washington redskins to end up with Chase Sean on their team and I do think he is head and shoulders above everybody else. But you know that means I would think you'd want to draft the tackle and offensive tackle offensive line. Yeah and yeah. There's a there's a couple of good players there too as well so I don't know the Bengals have like they have a lock on the number one. That's going to be Joe Borough and then after that you know. Andrew Thomas is the the best offense of line. Everybody suspects him to be at a top five pick. He's the tackle out of Georgia so I think if if one team takes chase young the other teams taking the tackle. That's that's the way it would you know seems to be logical to me but the NFL anything but logical these days so Who knows but it was? It was a good moment. Great Fan true hardcore died a wall number ten wearing giant fan. Dan yesterday had their moment. They saw their guy go out with a burst and he looked like he had a lot of energy yesterday. He got a standing ovation he got the pats on the helmets helmets. Got The pats on the back so you got the allied chance walking off the field. which was the complete opposite of what happened? Oakland Oh my goodness I know just just absolutely terrible. We were talking about that being a sentimental game. This game ended up being more of a sentimental game than than anything else in the NFL. And I know that you said that you believe Eddie Lie. Wouldn't want something like this because he's not a guy who's going to seek out extra attention and you could see it a little bit yesterday in the interviews interviews and in the locker room talk about to win and these things are hard to come by to win. And it's a team win all the things that he says he never changes over changed since he got here. But I'm sorry that at least hit him inside. Outwardly wasn't showing US but inside. I mean with his with his kids there as you walk off the field. The fans waiting for them. I mean there is the I mean as you mentioned how many people in sports especially when you've been unceremoniously replaced earlier in the season get get them over to me unceremoniously to me. It's a reality reality of the sport when your skills both window and you're not the player that you once wore are it happens the the interesting here. It's for guy who's played his entire career for one team. You know we all had the discussion yesterday. We'll Eli manning play next year. I don't think so I do not see him playing in another United States. It and he can't be here any longer. Yesterday was the day then the other thing I was thinking about uh-huh yeah thanks for the for the star so nicer to go down there and get that I on the other thing I was thinking about Daniel Jones. Better play in that last game at Holmen Philadelphia because we can't have another Eli send-off game. After that Dan Jones better get healthy because another one of these I mean he's walking off the field perfectly. Gli Five hundred record. You don't have to worry about him. Being under five hundred they win the game. It's at home. He has his moment game ball in the locker room. He can't play again. There's a very good chance that last game against Philadelphia. It's not gonNA mean anything for the Eagles because the eagles will play the cowboys next week for all the marbles for the NFC east and and the cowboys out of the blue played their best game in five weeks and they had a hell of a game against the rams. I gotTa give them that and you know when you listen to them talking about after the you know after the the game talking about how they played they all to a man where like we finally got our Mojo back and you know they played a good Ramstein team. That had been playing well up to this point the last three weeks so now all of a sudden cowboy seem like they're back on the rails that got the momentum and the eagles aren't a great team Carson Wentz doing pretty much all of this himself alf running all over the place making plays. It doesn't have legitimate. Wide Receivers got no running game with speak of for him so to me. It looks like the cowboys blow out the eagles next week but it is division game. Everything's online it's Infotel so I think that's worth at least a touchdown for the eagles but the cowboys are a better team. They're they're healthier. They have better players they have a legitimate running game they have legitimate wide receivers. Jason witten made a great catch. Oh Yeah start game. Yeah right so nothing so I just feel like that game that last game between the giants and eagles is not gonNA mean anything except for draft position right now. If Daniel Jones is unhealthy at that point I would I not healthy. He's GonNa play told me he was going to play this. We hit he later this week and I think maybe maybe the giants did the you know they did the right thing by. Eli By disguising the fact that that thing John's they didn't want them to interact. That's fine and then good because has Danny Jones to play these last couple of games. Get them back out there on the field have a couple. Nice game is John. Mero was crying in the locker room. Why not but? That's what I'm saying. I mean he was crying. Am Lock Great. You know. Let me because that's an era. What that's a little bit too much for a guy I mean? He's the owner of this team. He authored Eli the show with the most magical moments franchise I understand. There'll be crying when Tom Brady leaves. Tom Brady has been the nine super bowls. Yeah okay I mean you know that. Yeah I mean. That's the voice. I I know I know listed. I've come in from a guy who's never seen his team get to a super bowl. Yeah I mean. I've got guys that I love. That never even got past. NFC Championship game. That I haven't cried but you know when they retired. I said and the owner. The team can't cry. After Eli Manning places last game ever seen that but from John Mara Outta they ever seen from any owner regarding any player are okay and we are. We Cry Shaving. John Maher or I don't know but I'm eighty the barlow traded. What's his name? Joe Montana for God's sake listen. We knew could wait. Heisinger cry when Dan Marino. I don't know maybe maybe not on camera Bolan may have cried for John elway. Yeah Yeah may have cried. This one's for John that now crying foot. I don't know we. We always knew John. Maher is attachment theline manning. Maybe a little Baotou strong. And that's why they got started on rebuilding year late bought or maybe more than a year late. I'm reading your facial expressions but I mean I. I can't blame a guy who's this. He was perfect for them for so long. He never got hurt everything. That's the thing I mean he was i. Ah I'm just talking about representing organization autism down years and towards the end. I mean we were screaming about it for the longest time out of there. Get some new blood into and I you know I'm glad to see the side of you though but I'm GonNa. I'm really glad to see the side of you. I can separate the two things. It doesn't have to be like ally hate across the WHO. ooh separate the two things where he needed to go a couple years ago yes like yesterday was a great day for him. It was and and I'm happy for him and I'm happy for his family and I'm happy that he can go out the way that he went out. You know the interesting thing yesterday on the NFL today after this whole game was over over and we showed all that stuff. Because one of our Games Phil. I started crying. I saw this report shed some tears. I don't think that there is a guy that I've had had to talk about more since I took this job in two thousand seven than Eli Manning. Yeah I can't think of a guy that I that I have mentioned more it my responsibility. Yes it's got to be a radio. Sports talk show host gotta be him because think about it. How many other guys At that level are still playing. They're not like you go back to two thousand and seven like the guy like the entire jet team has changed. Yeah right there's no. He's the only once densely yankers have turned over. Mellow garnered a lot of discussion. Give it. He's only here here for several years. I know I know but I'm just thinking about the amount of times. We were talking about mellow but Beckham junior short amount of time got a lot of attention. But you're right now I I don't even think hey I was. I go back to two thousand seven. I was defending. Eli Manning in two thousand seven as a young player trying to figure it out and give them some in time and obviously Craig head across the Brooklyn Bridge in a Speedo Rate Rise Super Bowl. Then you had a Then he had a hemorrhoids ectomy right after after that it was a whole mess and then of course five years later did it again. Yeah I know and people are going to talk about his hall of fame candidacy this morning. That's going to be a topic in a lot of places I mean. I don't know if I'm ready to go in start that I mean this has been something that's people have talked about since I guess he got benched or she's a bench since Daniel Jones replaced them because they needed to get younger. I mean I personally think that's benching believe me I know I but it's like one of those words that like you know. This one is a benching for sure But you know this. I believe the guy's hall of fame. I believe you go to Pete in Scotch plains. Insp what's happening. Hey what's Boehner. How you doing man? I'm good. I'm good listening. I listen to you every day. Thank you and I have all the up. Most respect back to you in the world's appreciate it. I I just want to ask you a question. Yes are you a little jealous of Eli Manning. Now there's there's no reason to be. I wonder why thinks that though. I don't know I do get that. A lot actually is jealous. Yeah just winter. Just because he like I dunno tells the truth about them. Sometimes I don't know what's he supposed to. What are you supposed to do? I mean I think you've been fair. Oh I think I've been more than fair. Yeah I I think I've been honest credible. I think I've been good when I need to be good and I need harsh one. I need to be harsh. Yeah people hear what they want. Want to here. Yeah well I mean I think this is this morning yet understand. He's run the gamut okay so when he first got here he only got here because he told another team in the NFL that he didn't WanNa play for them. All one of the player has ever done that in the history of the League and that John Elway. Everybody tends to forget that he picked where he he wanted to play for that right so giants fan for every other player to League. That has never been able to do that. I could you imagine Joe Borough now coming Out and saying you know what I'm not playing for the bengals draft me. Yeah I would consider that if I were him you know why not maybe will so I was hoping Zion would do that with the Pelicans right exactly. I was extremely jealous. I mean they always have been today. They walk in here so that so you had to defend that right in the defense of that is he wanted to come here. He wanted to play here. You got in three years into his career. Everybody had forgotten that like. I'll wait a minute. Now wait a minute. He wanted to play here so we give them some time. God Damn it. Just give them a little bit of time to figure it out and hey it's like this whole thing about Sam darnold man. He just turned twenty two years old. So Joe Boroughs in studio yesterday. He's twenty three years old Golden Sandy. Yeah yeah right maybe face right. He's not baby he's baby face but he's not how did this. How did this exchange go yesterday? Who's WHO's great? He's a great kid. Who reminds us of Mo- most of us Body Style and look and all that stuff. I'm not saying he's a player like that although at L. Shoes had he's having an unbelievable year and I told you I was GonNa win by the largest margin of votes ever in the Heisman in the voting and he should've but He looks like Tom Brady. Oh Jeez does body style. It looks like Brady. Yeah body style a male as soon as he got in there. You know coach Phil Raleigh-durham over them. He's got hip. Suzy Beck on his shoulder Phil. Sniffing talks do Tower Hill. Says like going to the butcher shop looking at cut. Give give me this. Yeah fills plucking out hair on examine the DNA testing on them crazy. But no but the kids pressure Joe you reminded reminded of Tom. Brady kid is a good kid. He's a really solid kid very bright you know. He graduated from Ohio state in three years. Yeah and And interestingly wind up told him a story I believe that the reason that he left Ohio state to go to. LSU was because one Dwayne Haskins came to Ohio state But DWAYNE Haskins was committed to go to another school prior to going to all house state. Do you know the school that Dwayne Hassans Haskins committed to Maryland. He committed into Maryland. Yes and then they fired Randy Edsall in the middle of the season. He de committed from Maryland and then went to Ohio. State would ultimately forced I joe borough to leave Ohio state and go to Elche and look at that. How about? Maria's winning is never know where life takes you right that's absolutely unbelievable and he is maximized his opportunities. That's for sure all right just getting started. It's the Monday after the Eli Manning sendoff game on the fan and CBS sports network. Those other Games workout that we gave names to well waitress bound Graham. Yeah they did. The sentimental game did not work out. You know some of the other ones though were just sort of it could have gone either way and the game was the Pittsburgh Buffalo game was a grinded out. Game was a grinded out. Game Seventeen Ten grinded out game right spot. Spotlight game it's spot for both of those teams so one of them was going to do it anyway. But who today Jay pick J J J J. I don't know he didn't I he. He picked titans in that game but he did. Yeah he picked the titans in his spotlight. Spotlight game was he got his didn't work from right so once again as I drive I listened to the the overnight show I get I get a kick out of Harris Allen and Mike Fliegelman and Jay Jay Jay Jay Leno and five and his picks after consulting every degenerate up and down and Arizona's house with three one one five five three one. One harasses like twenty games over five. Ed Harris. Just look at these games that teams better than that team. So that's who I'm going to pick this week and they do it with points. Of course I mean that is It's great because Jay comes off as like this expert. Oh my God yeah. He's got the pipeline to Vegas and everything else because all these minions calling off. Aw Yeah this. eagle-eyed picks underground pigs and helicopter picks. And all these people now the big question for me the big question for me is I want you to go back back and I want you to look at the hammer weather report. Okay and I want to know what he said about Kansas City. I believe he had some snow in some stuff I will. We'll tell you this. I made bet based on the hammer report and I want my bats. He talked specifically about the snow in Kansas City. Yes and the cold in Green Bay yes and I thought for both of those take the under and take the home team and the home team. Wow You bet unders yesterday I did. Yeah I bet an under parlay that that is so your brand is that's the most boring bet in the world. You're rooting for nothing to happen. That's what you're rooting for. I saw the snow and nine degrees in Green Bay. Ah Take the on their on. Both of those. Wow Wow good good for you about you know our boy Patrick Mahomes put his ass off yesterday. Yeah doesn't matter see him sliding around before the game them like. Oh man just don't fall. kneecap what are you doing. WEATHERPROOF mahomes man. It doesn't matter not matter.

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From the Bleachers #14: A Dirty End to An Odd Season

Bleeding Green Nation

24:58 min | 7 months ago

From the Bleachers #14: A Dirty End to An Odd Season

"Be just brochure. I This strange welcome to from the bleachers. Here's Heimer host as always shame clancy coming to you from the bleeding green nation radio podcast network some victory Monday. It's a somber Monday throughout the Philadelphia. The area heffer last night's disappointing. Crushing heartbreaking whatever word. You WanNA use evening in Philadelphia as our are Philadelphia. Eagles lost Seventeen nineteen and what's going to be synonymous with this game for the rest of my life as an eagles fan and will be taken. He's placed inside eagles. Lower right alongside you know ran on Cunningham's injury ninety one one of those huge weapons. What if Jay van clowning does not got a legally cheap shot Carson wentz in the first quarter of that Game Carson Wentz has sat idly on the sidelines? The last two years in in the postseason watching Nick foles go three and one of those four postseason games and become the toast of the town and then this year starts all sixteen games aimed for the second time in his career at his first time since his rookie year. Back in two thousand sixteen. He does that. He overcomes massive adversity whether it be his lack of talent at his skill position players. Between Greg Ward John Burnett Boston Scott. The rest of the island of misfit toys as well as Tumultuous Locker Room situation at times between wean the comments assumingly by Nelson Aguilar and Alshon Jeffery and the reports from I guess the new public enemy number one in town I also clowney in USPS Zena Anderson all those reports from her that she certainly seems like a mouthpiece for Al Into that a little bit more in a minute but that was just so roughing threw four passes. This was supposed to be his coming out party. This was his first playoff game. This season to me was success because he was going to finally finally get playoff experienced. That one thing that he so desperately lacking his career the one thing people have faulted him for ever since he said on the sidelines during the Eagles Super Bowl. Run in two thousand in seventeen. Because I don't WanNa hear I would I going into this game. I knew I was going to hearing more from cowboys. Fans from giants fans from whoever on the Internet saying Carson's hasn't even started a playoff game is its fourth year and hasn't even played in the playoffs and it was finally finally went to get that monkey off his back. That Devil Office back in I able to play in a postseason game and do well and showcase his massive talented his magic in the pocket. Even do that for a national audience against a great coach Pete Carroll Arrow in a team that's dominated over the last decade in the NFC in the Seattle seahawks. It was supposed to be his game. It was supposed to be his afternoon night. Whatever you WANNA call it? Aw inclining took that away from. He took it away from all of us now. Someone who at the time thought that Clinton should have been ejected or out of the game but not even a flag. Not even a flight like for that. Are you kidding me net guys in the Revlon afterwards. I mean he's always been kind of a dirty player like I wanted Eagles to acquire him back. You know in training camp in August whenever he got doubled in the fact that the cost clowney was so little it was like a third or fourth round pick or fifth rounder in a backup linebacker her for player of his town who when the seasons went on the line for Seattle as it was the last one that this season as it was yesterday. That guy played well that guy bald out and they didn't have a player like that to be a game record. They certainly didn't have a player capable of injuring or even getting up to Russell Wilson. Not that I want anyone to be severely injured. Man That was rough and then to watch decay. Metcalf have seven catches for one hundred sixty yards and a touchdown M. V. Nail in the coffin the game against the birds as he averaged L.. wapping twenty two point nine yards per catch while Jr Theta whiteside sound a sideline with his thumb but And garnered zero total target throughout the game. I kind of want talking about Carson. But I'm all over the place I keep coming back to the front office. Misuse and I've harped on the data. Whiteside pick a million times I've harped on Nelson Adler fifth year. Option getting picked up. You know the lack of adequate drafting in the first run over the last several years it just adds up man it adds up. They were able to overcome all those deficiencies because of Carson Wentz in December. Now let's not forget. September November were infuriating and hair pulling out events. We have to give credit to the way they the year replica credit. The coaching staff Doug Peers in particular Jim Schwartz as well who always always coaches phenomenally at home. It's the second time this season. He's led up only seventeen points. Russell Wilson led offense to only lose by scored scored Josh mccown. In there of course played he would have won. He would have one that lasts drive. He would've gotten Josh. mccown admirable performance given the circumstances into great performance. That's his little he's forty years old talked about Carson wentz playoff experience. That's the first time he's ever gotten gametime. Ever Seen Action in a playoff game at forty years old did okay. This is really hot. Take Guy I'm just kind of voice of the fan base. Just let things off my chest. This is my hot take if Doug Peterson had a week. The repair Josh mccown and play yesterday. Eagles would have won. You lost by a score. That was worth seven in the fourth quarter. If they can birth top gang of the two point conversion Todd Game Wentworth Wentworth. Done that thank cloudy banks you clown own man and then metcalfe goes off and it was just supposed to be once moment moment all those people all those fans we've defended him at every turn since that fateful day in Los Angeles in December twenty seventeen it was for us it was for Carson. It was our time it was. We're all our faith in him was going to be rewarded. We're GONNA watch him. Put the team on his back with this crap. Supporting cast asked and won a playoff game. Single handily at home with alongside the fantastic coaching of Doug Peterson any was gonna be a great coach. A Super Bowl winning coach and appea- Kyle. I'm doing so it didn't happen. Through four passes four passes and his playoff season was over. His game was over. The season was over. The team. From the moment cloudy went down it was cheap. It was cheap four passes. That doesn't even count. That's what I need like yet. People were saying like oh well maybe the eagles are better off losing division the higher drip making changes the team. You know what I want to see the planet playoff game even simple odds aren't in grade I one Carson Wentz too friendly. His first playoff start. I want him to filing get his first wealth experience. I would have rather lost that game by three or four scores and had Carson wins on the field all time taken. His lumps getting used to the playoff atmosphere getting used to playing against the great defense in the playoffs. They lost that offseason. Hang on that the More talk of. He's never played the playoffs. He's never done anything in the playoffs. Maybe he would've lost and you WANNA play great but in the worst case scenario other than this this catastrophic injury. We didn't get we didn't get it. We were robbed at went was robbed of it and to think people are saying he's injury prone he didn't blow out his knee again again. He didn't hurt his back. A dude cheap shot them and got a concussion. How's that injury prone guy who has one hundred concussions? Greer is not some hockey he player seven or eight concussions in his past cheap shot he got wrong up and it's for his safety to not go out there. It's fun that he didn't go out there on the team. That and clear him. His brain needs to work one game his whole life out of them. He has his whole eagles career ahead of him man which curse on here. I'm not going to but it was. It should have been our game miles. Sanders performed admirably Boston. Scott while Alumna time soccer. I don't know how I don't know anything about medicine amount. Dr Obviously but I just felt like Zach yards played yesterday one head away from potentially seriously injuring himself in. I don't know if I'm just being over the top hyperbolic whatever. Have you feel like you could have died out there right. A lacerated kidney gets one huge hit in the kidney that ruptures. I don't know that could be for him. And he played at forty four catches for forty four yards. Now is that like a great zakar performance. No but the fact that he went out out there because he knew the rest of the supporting cast stunk and he put himself out there and he played through that. Maybe it was stupid. Maybe it was short sighted. I have nothing else to do but respected because admirable. That's courageous again. Maybe a little foolish by can't help of respect it. So thank Zack. Back you tried you try to bring this team along with me. You and Wednesday comes in next level in the next round the playoffs on offense and too damn shame the damn shame. I'm one hundred percent. Anyone else on this team was one hundred percent. That Wentz wasn't in there but doug didn't have played the game plan base around. Having Josh Awesome Account at quarterback again I think even if he has the game plan for mccown not even result. We can proudest. They could have done it because it was practice squad guys. They had wrestled with him all season. Is He's the back of their on. The backups were in hell is open and all the backups. Are here where we do. You got to make some changes Coaching staff for sure Personnel Aguilar's gone. I don't see how you bring Alshon Jeffery Brac total whether smoke there's fire move between him. And all the Josie using animals enersen reports josephina Anderson's passive aggressive tweets yesterday. She just had he he asked to go. I think and it's GonNa be incur- huge wjr cat fines by doing so and really mess up their cab even more than a might be. I know how he roseman is bill as salary cap wizard. You're wizard Howie. But but I don't know how he's going to myself out of that when attaching asset beagles do have ten draft picks up. I mean draft to lighten the load on how much they incur cap it from him Eh. Trade like a fifth or fourth with him for six or something like that. I feel like it sucks. receiving core The Shawn's back I'm guessing because he's impossible the cup with his contract either Ba- griffey took some sort of discount on to help out the teams copy I'm all for players as much as possible but from the Eagle's perspective they certainly like the Sean to renegotiate his deal a little bit Ortega whiteside don't count on him for anything you can't count him to be God next year maybe four five receive in the future. You'RE A pal. Asmat should take special teams a little bit so you have your own round one. The receiver distract someone. WHO's fast and plays in the F. C.? He say or the big twelve and I'll be happy. Just do that fast. Receiver plays in the south. I'll take it twenty first pick. The Eagles Select Fast Guy. Southern part United States just got it runs a four for the team around once when he comes back. It's it's obviously non injury the way in his back injury was last year or the ACL injury the year prior. He's an have all the offseason ramps he's GonNa have all the off season training and everything will be fine with concussions cautions Just silent him forbid but it's not like he's doing anything now anyway is the birds loss. they need to do so much they've autism is Malcolm Jenkins me back. Are they gonNA cut Trade him just so much going on. There's so much uncertainty around the team right now but ultimately you have to figure that the two most important figures on the team team in head coach in the quarterback are in place and as we saw this year if the rest of that team Kinda sucks misconduct crappy. Even the front office office isn't doing well in his mismanaging things. We have a great quarterback. If you have a great head coach in offense in modern one they do in Doug Peterson you can straight playoff off birth if things get a little bit better over the next year if they have a little bit more injury luck. Jackson healthy. Sean can play most the season they hit on a wide receiver in round one of their hit on a couple other players on the defense in the little rounds in the middle rounds. If Andre Lurton seven from Jason Peters in be you know a pro bowl cal player he could just be. You know a guy who's an above average started left tackle immediately. That's a huge win. That's an upgrade. Because then you'll have Dallas got it emerging a bit Zakar back healthy. They should be in a good position to win next year. All things considered. Yeah you know Mike. McCarthy's down the cowboys coach. It doesn't scare me that guy. He has super bowl ring. He wasted in tired of Aaron Rodgers Prom. Don't talk me on Mike. McCarthy Ron Rivera for Washington solid higher is is not amazing or anything but he'll bring consistency bring stability to an organization that is known for everything but that and ultimately as as long as Dan Center owns Washington They'll never be a real contender or anything like that. But I do think You know I think Dwayne Hassans is big time trash rash garbage so but I do think Ron Rivera. We'll get that defense. In order divisions or divisions games and I wouldn't be surprised to see what the birds limited trouble next year. I'm not saying and they're going to win. But Ron Rivera is a competent head coach. I'm Jillian Weinberger hosted the impact podcast cast from. Vox about how powerful people affect the rest of us this season. We're looking at the big ideas from all the people running for president. In twenty twenty hit this this opioid crisis head on public option move away from Moslem fueled energy efficiency and it's going to be a Great Wall and it's going to work. A lot of those ideas have actually been tried right before like that. Wall trump wants to build the gallows Arizona has had one on its border for decades. I don't understand understand why individual people have a right to have a fence and yet a country can't Senator Warren's proposal to end the OPIOID wait crisis. It's based on what we did to fight the AIDS epidemic. We would like to name it. The Ryan White Care Act and the green new deal. Germany tried something similar in two thousand. This is solution this season on the impact. We have those stories how the big ideas from twenty twenty candidates worked or didn't work in other places or at other times. These are the stories that will help us understand what might happen if these proposals get rolled out here in the next four years. Subscribe to the impact on Apple. PODCAST or your favorite podcast APP to get the first episode on Wednesday January eighth. This sucks man. This is not the podcast I wanted to do. As I'm sure you're aware I bring in the energy. I like having fun. There's nothing fun about this. Yeah I appreciate your lesson and kind of just using this as diarrhea soapbox just kind of venting right right now. I don't. I'm not sad. I'm kind of disappointed. Field a little bit numb a month wasn't a heartbreaker for me. It was just like can't believe this happened. I can't believe believer going down this way. We're not going down swinging. We're not going down fighting. We're going down with Josh mccown. Because some dude took a cheap shot on our franchise Rancho quarterback and it's so just frustrating. It's frustrating minnows. At that game and once I got like the assault weapons. Go Off mccown's in. I looked at my phone and saw the you know. Check twitter with all the notifications from the beat writers national reporters. My heart sunk men just like could feel it in my stomach and my gut just like man. I'm watching this loss. I'M GONNA watch a loss got so hype y'all day had a fantastic delegate at some bgn reader people who listen to this podcast when people check. Check out my from broad street with love. Newsletter could find that out on patriots dot com slash shameless Clancy who my newsletter comes in your email news box hin box every morning money Friday but had a great tailgate had a great food had phil stakes dropped off a ton of cheese sticks for everyone is able to bring some breakfast. Stromboli in a breakfast pizza from Isabella's pizza in Paschall GAV scrapple. I can cheese in home fries from Bali than a sausage egg and cheese in home Home Fries breakfast. Pizza obviously went in five seconds. They were awesome. No like a tight bend last pot yes. I love Stadium in Sun a couple of BGN listeners and readers or is there I said take this all in your first playoff game. Just enjoy the walk to the stadium because win or lose sometimes the best part of the day that feeling of optimism. Feel anything could happen the feeling that the world is at your fingertips The feeling that the Eagles going super bowl run that could all start here. This could be a magical adjective Dane. Eagles lower that could be a gain that you're telling your grandkids you saw telling your great grandkids if you saw. If you're lucky tone your friends. Every time they get drunk a number that they went to the eagles first round and went to up the Seahawks in his first playoff game got a big win and within mere minutes. We were robbed of that moment. We rob over memorable day in our lives memorable day in Eagles history which should have been a celebration carson. Wentz the franchise quarterback guy who's gotten knocked around the last last couple years whether it be on the field or in the media was finally going to have his time to shine was following his day. You know less than ten minutes in took a little cheap shot shot. That went uncalled penalty. which was a betrayal on levels at known has ever seen were just left Here being numb. I don't know this. It was rough it was it was a terrible game to watch live ahead to get. I couldn't wait to get out of the stadium and go home and just lay on my couch. Crush powered eight zero and just unwind wine and try to forget about it and sitting here right now. I'd love to be playing. There is sort of a relief. Once the season's over there's much of the mistrust down person normally kind of all over the place person certainly very energetic very naughty goofy. Whatever you want to say I think there is something to be said about. Wants the off season. Heads the little distresses me a little bit and kind of relax not be as high strung but the same time what. I'd rather birds playing right now. I'd rather be preparing us for a game in Lambofield on Saturday. Night or at Green Bay at Lambeau field on Sunday night. Talking about the Sean Jackson's coming back talked about how he's going to have to huge touchdowns. I would have loved to be doing that right now. I'd love to be talking about the Sean Jackson. Eagle's playoff game. I'd love to be excited. Anthony guys up bring that energy like I have for the last month and a half. Were those podcasts. have been the best. I've done all season the last couple weeks and for those does if less than me all season Of improved along the way I love doing this. podcast appreciate Michael Kissed a producer. branly gown are feeling syrupy Jan.. Forgive me this opportunity loved it. I love all you guys that listen people that tell me that. Listen the pot enjoy. It means every man I really wish you would do. Obviously the podcast stay on. It's GonNa continue on but it is the off season so I'm not gonNa have that immediate early in the week. You know that. Russia energy from Sunday's previous game in that optimism optimism for the game coming up later in the week. That's not going to be here but I'm GonNa do some interesting things for you. Guys know. Bring some energy to try to keep big throughout the off season Later this week I will be recording interview with a figure in the Philadelphia punk. Rock scene Big Time Eagles Fan. Dan soupy Campbell of the wonder years will be joining the from the bleachers podcast. I will be interviewing Dan on Thursday and it should be out in the pot for next week. Obviously things aren't it's time sensitive now because the birds words on playing every week but not true some fun stuff this off season when he guys maybe do some interviews with more famous people that are eagles fans people like Dan People in the Philadelphia music scene. That might have some connections actions to Maybe do some meter mailbags end. Bring on some guests. Bring my dad. who was on literally on Fox News at seven? AM on Sunday. 'cause he was literally the first first person in line at the tailgate. Atra Law the first car out there. Since four o'clock in the morning just sitting in his car taking a nap in the newspaper. I don't know waiting for again starring for a great day and it was a fantastic day at a fantastic tailgate. Those listeners in that came by thank you so much brandon gallon. Thank you combine. had a fantastic time and it was a great day but you know we have like that just to migos superfan song bring that do something different. That's why I like to think this podcast cast is different than most eagles. PODCAST ME Flying Solo. This is my Millennium Falcon ends. Just bring you the emotions. I'm trying to give a voice to to know the typical eagles fan typical Philadelphian. Someone who lives in breezy and dies with this team every living waking moment as I do and I'm sure tons and tons of you guys and girls out there as well So thanks for listening to this season pockets would still be gone have. I'm going to have a great interview this week. I haven't done a real big interview review for the podcast yet. Some super excited do that again. I'd love to you know expand this and reese more people If you are a somewhat relatively famous eagles fan and you're listening to this podcast Ryan Philipe. If you're listening to this podcast Mark Office. You're listening to a podcast. Please get in touch with me. I'd love to have you on the PODCAST Other than that had a great season should have been a season. From Helena timed. It felt like a season from Hal for the first three or four months but we ended on a high note in the last month of the regular season. Remember that forever. They won the division title. They be Dallas at home. We had a great season Boston. Scott Greg Ward throw always part out of eagles. Laura we telling our kids all member Greg words easy. It'd be telling your buddies like that Greg Award Season Gregg word was unbelievable. We didn't get a great word touchdown. Pass that's the one my one regret outside of one's getting hurt is that they should have thought up a trick. Play for Greg Word. Josh mccown Josh mccown played receiver. NFL before how about that affiliate special with Gregg. Don't touch down the Josh mccown. They ran that on fourth and seven out in Bazi by Doug and I kind of wish they did. Maybe Greg scored. Maybe Gregory starting quarterback next week Frawley now but enforce on the case Greg Word. Hope he's on the squad next on the practice squad but the real team and that double-pass Greg Ward touchdown throw For me for all the people out there to talk about Jeff McDevitt some other friends on twitter. Some readers listeners. I hope we get that Greg Word Justice next year he's back on. The team has long maybe stone to henry rugs or CD lamb or some other fantastic receiver the draft but again just a sign off. Thanks for letting in. 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On The Rise

Around the Horn

23:44 min | 5 months ago

On The Rise

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Has it all download the APP and joined the Vivid Seats Rewards Loyalty Program Today? Make a memory that lasts a lifetime and let the vivid seats APP. Help you get to your favorite live event. Enter Promo Code. Espn twenty-five for ten percent off your next order. Truth says this is a safe place. We're GONNA talk it out today. Data dumps and you're the name would pick me up big PAPI's estate sale with poppy cleese. Poppy printer ink. Poppy Game asparagus rug. What is a bit spill? I am now at the point where I would be stunned. Tom Britain returns to the Patriots. O Oh Darling Jeff you think about your mentions get up this morning now reporting. Brady is evaluating the NFL landscape with the intention of the party. There's that and then there's also the Boston Herald Karen garrision that the Patriots still have not reached out to Tom Brady quote. It's not looking good. According to her source. Let's marinate on that for a second would you the negotiation strategy here is the not even reach out to Brady Patriots Frank? Well it's amazing. I don't think Adam Karen and Jeff for saying this stuff if they don't have good information but I would also say this. We know about the relationship that Tom Brady has with the owner Robert Kraft. My big question is what about the coach? Your Bill Belichick. You're not gonNA hear anything from him and we know historically he always gets rid of a guy maybe a year too early as opposed to a year too late and the quarterback that he wanted started the super bowl this year. That being Jimmy Garoppolo says something tells me maybe the Patriots as well as Brady are both ready to okay when you hear not looking good you believe that. One hundred percent now not necessarily. I think this is still part of negotiation. I still think there's a chance because of the owner and his relationship with Kevin Black. Still where you on this well? I don't know where else Tom Brady is going to go. Which would better his chances of winning a super bowl then where he is right now? That's one of the things I continually come back and and think about. I mean of those list of teams that get thrown out there. The only one. That's really in the playoff mix. I would think would be Dallas. And they have a young quarterback so and all of this is in Tom. Brady's court I don't think we should read too much into this remember. This has been reported for well over a year. Now remember Adam. Schefter reported last year before the season even started about Tom Putin his house on the on the block and the trainer putting his house on the block and that this was a real a very real possibility and here. We are all this time gone past. And we're at this point where Tom Tom. Brady is being reported not talking to the Patriots. But what does he really talk to them about? Really his conversation as frank just pointed out would really. Just be with Robert Kraft. Here's what I'm thinking about. What are you there? Wasn't Adam? Schefter report Kevin that the Patriots hadn't reached out because they're waiting on my new. Cba to be agreed to or not. And I doubted that but you said to me just who seconds ago. That's what you're hearing elsewhere. That's what I'm hearing. That's what I'm hearing about. What Dallas is waiting for in terms of Prescott kind of what this new. Cba language is going to be everybody's kind of waiting them. Woody page and it's not looking good no I don't think it's looking at all. I don't think we know we're seventeen days away and even though people are speculating both ways. The only thing I can tell you is frie- forgive me. He's not going to the giants and they've been now thrown into the mix really after what they did last year in in signing a quarterback. And they're GONNA go after. Tom Brady not a chance of it. He didn't want to play for team. That's not having any chance going to super bowl but Kevin I wouldn't disagree with you. I think if you put him on a team like Indianapolis Colts for instance who had injury problems wide receiver last year. But that's a team that is in a division that he could win and a team that could go to the Super Bowl. I I'm not sure about Either the chargers or the the raiders. Even though I think they would be great landing spots for him because of what he could do to help those franchises in their new stadiums. But I don't think that's GonNa work and Ramona Shelbert. That's the headline not looking good. What do you? How do you hear that look? I think this comes to what Tom Brady wants. Right does he. Does he. Just WanNa feel the love from New England specifically from Bill Belichick. Does he want us is? We'll pay raise. Does he want to win there. In which case this could all be alleged play to just put some pressure on the organization to get him some more weapons around him because obviously he didn't have a lot to work with last year. There's a lot of leverage games being played here right now but ultimately it will come down to what Tom Brady wants if he wants to win. New England's probably still the best place but look at a place like Tennessee. Really growing people looking to place Indianapolis team. That's ready to win. So I think he's got other going Ramona Shelburne and hear that from blackstone or woody page frank last word after the horn there has been talk about maybe the giants. Dave Gallo went out and drafted Daniel Jones. I can't imagine they would do that. Plus if I'm Tom Brady go back to knowing that I know what I'm getting myself into. But you know what he's a star. His wife is a start. Where do you go if you're a star where Ramona is out in La and if he goes to the chargers there's been talk about part ownership? So maybe that would work. It would be less about trying to win the Super Bowl more about his post but Kenny do that. I always forget. Is that allowed can you? Can you go to a team as a free agent also be given stake as an owner of the team after after he was on the Patriots? Should he stay there too? We'll move on now late nights you guys excited to be on the field drills at the combine up until eleven o'clock tonight we'll be this year's vk metcalf is a question you're Gonna. WanNa ask yourself while you're watching that but while we get there what's happening right now. Let's start off with Washington here. Kevin Black you're there. They had the number of course last year. The draft a quarterback fifteen haskins this year. We've heard from new coach Ron Rivera that they're meeting with Joe Varo into a tangle by LOA. Kb is that due diligence or something more it is a fiduciary responsibility of the GM and the code to the team and the fan face. They are if you just put out number two. Everybody knows that burrow into the people that that other teams as well as chase young who happens to be from Washington D. C. Just like Haskins. So I think this is due diligence. Talk to those guys. Not so much to frighten or even motivate Dwayne Haskins but also to let other teams know what you've got. The bengals can only take one person at number one so one of those guys or or one of those three people is GonNa be available and they are people that other teams one. So why not if you need some cornerback? Help if you need some tight in help if you need some defensive line help why not see if you can't multiply that that to pick into multi? Okay but let us just rank the three that you just mentioned right now and the three point. Haskins in there as well CAC borough tongue about lola chase. Young call himself the best player in the draft and Zwane Haskins. How're you ranking those four players right now Kevin Blackstone right now for this team's needs I would take chase because what they need? They need an edge rusher after that it would be too after that it would be borough in terms of the people borough of people you get to pick but right now if. I'm them I listen to also would Ron Rivera. Said after that statement about those two guys he talked up. Haskins and what he sees again. We're going to have to see the rest of that for your book and your facetime on on this number. Pick what he paid us here. Never heard. I've never Kevin Beasley so excited about his football team since two quarterbacks in the draft to what you start with our position drafting a quarterback in the first round last year this year. That rarely rarely happens. I think what they're doing here in Rod Rivera. I think is the guy in charge of what they're doing is saying we are going to make it difficult for other teams to actually know exactly what we're going to do that. We have to. We might say we're open for that spot and you've got if you want to or you really will burrow and he's not going to number one overall you gotta come to us. They have not been in that position. Kevin in a long long time where they actually could control the draft early with. We all know they can pull the draft. The question Ramon if you could answer it directly as they have Dwayne Haskins should they be looking for another quarterback? Go ahead let. The cardinals did that last year. And I think most people would agree that they did the right thing they got Kyle Murray. They moved on from. Josh Rosen and I think they made the right choice with that Ron Rivera. The new coach. He's got to look at dwayne. Hassans is really the guy that I want to move forward. Because he's not the it's not the guy that he drafted is not the guy he developed. So I think it's a IT'S A. They have that to decide in front of them right now but why not play the leverage game? If you're in that spot at number two most people thought that discussion started number three Detroit Sola. There is one person in that organization that I trust. It's not the owner. It's the new head coach. He knows he knows good. Quarterbacks he went to a super bowl with Cam Newton. He if he's worth his salt what he's already done is watched. Every single play that Twain Haskins had less season I'll guarantees going into this with an open mind and they're in a great position and to question too is stay healthy. I would not be shocked if they do this. It's a clean slate. Ron Rivera Listening Mona. You brought it up. Last franchise to draft a quarterback in the first round and back to backdraughts was just last year. The cardinals did it with Tyler. Murray and it only happened once before that with the the colts who are Baltimore at that time sleater and elway back to back years in and of course elway didn't even play for them. We're GONNA move on now talk some. Nba Celtics one. Fourteen jazz. One zero three two teams going in complete opposite directions at the moment and Jason Tatum. What's changed with his game? It's like he's found a mama switch in the last at the same time the jazz. It's the notes that aren't there. Four straight losses winstar putting Mike Conley on the bench in the morning shootaround reporting that he changed his mind. Modane showing was benched and Roy. So neal started first Boston. Ramona is here to stay. And what's the team ceiling within playing like this like Jason? Tatum has been a different player since he was got that. Validation of being named an all star. He's got six thirty point games in February before that he had six thirty four games in his entire career. Like this guy is on some kind of run right now and I think I think he just believes he's the guy now. I think that all star selection was very validating for him for go solo. At one thing to the equation. That Kemba missed the last couple of games and tatum boost in everything. He's doing. So how sustainable. Is this tatum with his team. Oh I think it will be because I can't walker is that is a good teammate. And remember this to Jason. Tatum has been in a conference. Final in game seven. He played very well against the Cleveland. Cavaliers but go back a few years ago when they made that pick Danny ainge treated out of the top spot traded down to get Jason Tatum and got number one. Pick that got a first round. Pick out of it from Philadelphia Jason Tatum. Jason Tatum carries himself like a superstar. Devin black half. I'm glad you said superstar because maybe the hall of fame coach Brad. Stevens is learning now. How to use a superstar layer jason thing and letting him play. His game didn't handle it so well with Kyrie Irving we know. Kyrie's a different kind of guy but all of a sudden this Jason's team and he's taken control. Woody page well situation as maturity and confidence. He is more confidence in his shot. I think he's reaching his birthday next week. He'll be twenty two on March six and I think being picked to the All Star game playing there. That really made a difference but he's taking better angles to the basket. And I believe he went from being a Jag just another guy in the NBA. To being dug out I mean he got his birthday wrong march third. That's okay the the idea here though. That eight twenty one year old about twenty two year old. All-star is really coming to zone. It's almost like it's God's will might say which in a mock defeat there the break right here by yourself on the other side. The gra he's got. The apostrophe added the tattoo right baby in life. There are talkers and there are doers. 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Twenty twenty welcome back to around the horn brought to you by coming to you from the seaport district here. Seventeen Small Ball Mike. Rowe baugh whatever you WANNA call it. And they're trying to make micro ball catch on. I'm not sure if it's getting rockets. One Forty Grizzlies one twelve game for center Russell. Westbrook thirty three ninety four since they went small. They're not into shooting fifty three percent before the game. Job rant said Westbrook's been taken for granted. He's been highly disrespected. Ramona Shelbert. You buy your still best buying that. I think probably job. Morale was Was asked to certain question by my buddy to McMahon that. Got Him to say that. I don't think he necessarily would volunteer that unknown but Russell Westbrook is in his life cycle that we were stars where we build them up and they're really cool when they had the narrative working for them. So that angry thing that he's got that work really well right after Kevin Durant left but once they started losing and he didn't deliver in that spot in Oklahoma City and now he's in the Houston. It doesn't play as well. I think John Rounds on the phone their word and that gets deduction Joe. Yeah page you know. Paraded become our Goto wikipedia. Nba been having a lot of close as a rookie. However I think he is disrespected. I referees. He's got fourteen technicals. He's got into fights with the argument with fans okay. frank. I sold is about to lose his mind right here. But we'll move along the line I give him by stone and Wood Franken staking hockey disrespected. We celebrated this guy's being the triple double King of the NBA. He's been on all star team after all star team We even talked about how he was going to go to Houston and whether or not he was going to fit his talented in the Houston. Or whether hardens fittest talents with him. I don't think he's been disrespected at all. We celebrate Westbrook. Here's what I Sola please. Floors Yours John. Moran is being respectful to one of his elders. The media voted Russell Westbrook. Mvp The coaches vote them onto the all star team this year. The band and Oklahoma City. Love him he's going to have a statue there. You disrespected him. Kevin Durant when he left to go to golden state remember. The story started coming out to play it in like Russell. Westbrook all the sub tweet. That's where he might have gotten disrespected. Not by all right real quick right. The idea. That small ball makes him more effective player. You buying into that. The pocket rockets. I think it absolutely works. It opens up. Give my kids. Get behind over micro Paul there. We go frank. We'll move on fire sale to Yankees Spring Training. Not GOING WELL. Severino season over. Tommy John Surgery. That's basically two years in a row. He's missed stanton season. Starting with a calf strain which is to say stanton. How bad is a gun for staying with Yankees fans when the news crossed along with statements? Name trending Ellsbury name was threatening paid. Hang on for a second FRANKEN NEW YORK. I know he wants to start us off. There is this worse for the Yankees or Stanton. I Sola No. It's a lot worse for staying. There was somebody on this panel today. Who Win The trade was made? Thank Derrick Jeeter for Gifting Stanton to the Yankees. That was well. Thank you for reminding us he ever does is get hurt. He strikes out a lot and the fans any disappointment. They have I the Yankees. They take it out on him once again. Another injured Ramona Shelburne. Yeah he's got eight years at two hundred forty four. I've found that you still. Oh Man. Look you've played in eighteen games last year and you know you start getting these quad injury in the playoffs calf injury. Those muscle injuries. They don't heal all well. You come back Rian. Beginning Stanton will ever be healthy in his career going forward. I think with his body type and the and the type of injuries keeps getting. Yeah Yeah I agree with that He's had a lot of injuries and I do think. Even though we're not dr we tend to play one on the show that is body type is such that he's GonNa get a lot of strange and strains and hamstrings stuff like that but he did talk about him I. I don't blame the fans I mean. Here's a guy says spring training. You could've hit eight home. Runs in two thousand seventeen to feed pigeons coming. He had three home runs last year. That's all that's no wonder. Fan Blackstone Aaron Judge is the star that team. I think we all agree. But he was supposed to be another star on this team. That's what the Yankees do they come at star power to scarf out the star power. They have one without him. They will have to win without him going forward. He's not gonNA necessarily get better at his age. I don't know about his body type at his age injuries. The question is whether you didn't say it but what you're implying here is the Yankees one hundred and three games last regular season Severino. They can do it again this year but this I mean they play the orioles all the time down. Come on now. What is page gift? Blackstone get a front row seat to watch Ramona Shelbert Showdown Shelbert. I Sola Good luck and showdown grays flunks. Plop DRILL BOB. Anybody that is that's escrow spring training so far seven pitches doing seven hit by pitches. What does this mean Ramona? What are you reading into this? I think this is going to happen all year. Unfortunately I think Major League baseball is going to have to step in pretty quickly and start suspending. The guys who are hitting the Astros which ironically means pitchers are going to get suspended more games for this cheating scandal than any player. A- Las Vegas put the number at eighty seven. The Times are going to get hit. As woody page told me they might as well put it out one hundred sixty two. What's going to happen but I'm telling you this. This is going to be a brolin spring training because they're going to say enough is enough. I wanted what he pays lines he'd be here in showed. I'll give him the point. When he employed Shelbourne. We'll move on to emergency. She talked about this earlier in the week. I love this story. I gave out to anyone who oppose the story. Didn't see the joy and fun of emergency goalie and Dave bears being alleged for the Carolina Hurricanes. Now the Niche L. Apparently is on your side because there's emergency GM meetings or these normal GM meetings and they're gonNA send her modifying emergency goalie rule out. You hear that I'll defend him. Is he and myself. We loved the story too cute story. It's a Disney movie but it cheapens sports. Just use someone on the Rosser. Someone is listening to the show. Thankfully well look this. Is this never used to happen? And now it's happened twice in three years. I think they have to do something about it. Doesn't just get an extra player out there. Get an emergency goalie. Designation guys are ants at the picnic. What are you doing here? It's great. We'll move on showed up in big PAPI estate sale all right cancer student David Ortiz Hover Board or David Ortiz. Hp PRINTER WITH INK OR DAVID ORTIZ. Africa's rugby frog or Louis Vitton snow home. All this stuff there's very little baseball memorabilia on your by the way What do you want more than anything else poppies Ramona? I'M GONNA still lines to these. Got The treadmill he's got the cybersex obviously been lightly used right of a steal a Weber Grill and then I'll take the back that he used to get those two hits off of mary-anne when Boston that great comeback. I don't put that on the finally Bernie. Okay you know what you guys don't even deserve. Here's what we're doing all right. Throw at the record books page. Come back to me all your law. Everybody's talking about stealing is stealing line. Yeah you tell you tell them I I if I see the one of you. I'm GonNa throw at you then the next Abbot complimenting you you're the emergency going today would he say this is? Why a word even the store store tab baby silver. I you got a loss in your record. What are you page? Another way wins leader.

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From the Bleachers #26: The History of the Eagles Rivalries

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From the Bleachers #26: The History of the Eagles Rivalries

"Hey there podcast pals I'm John Stolnis the host of the phillies. pod hidden season, one of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation. Look the baseball season is one hundred and sixty two games long, and there's no way you can watch all those games, so make sure to check out my podcast twice a week. For all the fills goodness, you could ever want and make sure to check out our other podcasts including the award winning dirty inning with Justin clue and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin and Laze rozier sprout apple podcasts or your favorite. PODCAST, APP. Just Bush. I'd. Does this strange man. Welcome to from the bleachers. I am back. It's your host as always seamus clancy come to you from the wonderful leading Green Nation Radio podcast network as if you couldn't tell on my Third Cup of coffee the day I'm sleep deprived I'm ready to go and Talk Eagles football couple housekeeping notes. Check out my last two podcasts. 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In a couple of weeks to a movie review of insight bowl kind of a twist on eagles film review, not just bringing on XS knows breaking out actual movie shelves. Maybe some other stuff mixed in there we shall see maybe at do review of the always sunny super bowl doubleheader. Episodes could do that, but reason talking you. You guys and girls, or however you may identify. We are pro LGBTQ here on the from the bleachers podcast. I'm talking you bel- rivalry week. It's a rivalry week on our one, the wonderful overlords he espy nation network blogging network. Go reduced. If you're not listen to this podcast, they don't read winning. Green Dot, com, what are you doing going there right now? Great work on their as always and I'm GONNA be talking to you about eagles, Washington Eagles or the Giants Eagles cowboys today. I've been using pro football reference DOT COM for. For last hour, so digging up some facts and tidbits looking at the all time record between the eagles are three NFC rivals are doing to make mention that they were previously in the NFC. East with the slash Saint Louis Slash Phoenix cardinals, but since they are in the NFC west now we really don't talk about them much. As a threat to the birds, they are different types of birds that we dislike not eagles, they say go birds. They're full of it, but we're not talking about the damn talking about their three primary. East rivals and I'M GONNA. Lead off with the Daniel Snyder owns Washington are words I will be not be saying that word. This podcast I'll be for intimate Watson going forward the Philadelphia. Inquirer just said they will refer to the team Washington when I was working back in the Philadelphia Daily News, partnership with Philadelphia. Inquirer obviously whenever I'd write about. The Eagles was of Covenant Team Pretty, intently, during the twenty four team season, I was gonna cry I was a junior in college interning. Interning Butson newspapers so understaffed staffed now is kind of just literally a fulltime staff writer all go into class and trying to live a normal twenty nineteen year old. Whatever college life and I would never use that word I've always called in. Washington in the paper was cool with it. Especially, everything gone on the world right now on arrests social justice, just no place for that, even though Daniel Snyder is terrible for allowing the team name, and for Plethora of other reasons as an eagles fan. In a vacuum I want him to be that Washington owner for as long as possible. He's proven time and time again to be just terrible. Terrible owner medals too much with his franchise in leads leaves the team. One not just a laughing stock in the National Football League. One of the biggest laughingstocks in all of North America Professional Sports. Got My little ironman notebook pulling out my stats right now. We have eagles in Washington I. Want to preface all this before I talked about each individual squad. Is that historically? The was a pretty terrible. No I think I'm twenty six years old. A lot of people that come invasion. The eighties and nineties and two thousands are a little bit spoiled. team has been relatively good their whole life, anyone who grew up in the buddy era. than the anti read our like I didn't even younger people right now. Who are growing up in Doug? Peterson our have been treated with the greatest couple of decade. Run an franchise history by far. It's not even close especially since any retail over ninety nine, so really twenty-first-century, the eagles owned the NFC east and I think we take it for granted that historically eagles a pretty terrible for decades decades in there was a couple of championships in forty, eight was forty, eight, forty, nine, forty, seven, nineteen, eighty were. They made Super Bowl Ron before that they had nineteen sixty as well. That was a big year winning. The Championship Nfl Championship at Franklin field. Hence, campus, my on the modern, wearing a shirt right now. My Air Jordan USA five, Zoning Rochman, going red, white, and blue right now, but eagles are terrible, historically, some of their all time records on great as we will get into, but we break it down further. We will see that as of late as in our lifetimes, legal has had been the premier team in the NFC, he's so we not with Washington's all time. Eagles are eighty, eighty, five and six against Washington not great in their first one hundred fourteen games against Washington they only one forty three games, so in that first one hundred fourteen games. And that runs from two franchise's inception until the end of the Buddy Ryan Era Nineteen, ninety, nineteen ninety including buddies last game, which was a playoff loss in January ninety one again against Watkins in that time period you were forty, three, sixty, five and six against locking in Washington had three pro bowl I think they had three super bowls. Not They wanted they wanted ninety one or ninety so now before the US one on before the mid nineties, Washington won three superbowls, so not great, but since the end of the buddy error since nineteen ninety-one Eagles are thirty seven and twenty Washington. And since the anti read our specifically they are twenty, four and sixteen and the Doug Peterson era. The birds have just completely and utterly own Washington opponents, sixty two and the four years that Doug Peterson has been a coach. Has Carson Winston quarterback Nichols in quarterback Yada Yada. Do Remember that one game in the end of the twenty eating season Nick Nick Southville came in first touchdown pass. I believe twenty one nothing win over Washington that coupled with A. Minnesota Vikings loss against the bears led the eagles to making the playoffs, and then when certainly the bears and the wild car round before losing New Orleans the following week. And kind of ton of memorable moments against Washington, I think I think of is the Monday night football massacre to Sean Jackson's ninety it ninety two yard touchdown catch from Michael Vick on the first play, the game Monday night football, the eagles just completely routed Washington. Vic Had I think five or six total touchdowns. was really just. It was Michael. Vicksburg, in this week are not this week last week. Was Mike The Birthday last Friday? So that was what that was June twenty six was fixed. A captivating athlete he was, I wished Andy could have gotten him young when he was younger in in his athletic prime in really tutored him in the game of football in a way that Vic wasn't quite acclimated, just super, athletically talented, and even still had a great football mind, but reads one of the greatest football minds of all time in pairing him his his entire career rum sure would have led him to be a hall of Famer. Philadelphia the whole time I bet they won the super bowl to the also have the first chip Kelly game when they went all tempo Michael Vick again, leading up on Monday night football once again, ships first game in two thousand thirteen is magnificent at a couple of friends from South Lake Him to my College. Apartment College House. We hung out drinks and beers wash. That game was just not. I thought that was one of those things. Where was the First Eagles game? The rest of my life I thought we were GONNA take. NFL by storm, and we sort of did for part of the twenty thirteen season, but as we know, unfortunately that ship Ara fizzled out quite quickly and. And My last most notable game that I think when and discussing eagles verse. Washington is Monday night football in twenty seventeen Carson, wentz MVP type showcase yet that crazy scramble Dr. defender ran for a first down had unbelievable, maybe Carson. Wentz has some unbelievable frozen. His just throws that so few quarterbacks, not even just playing now in the NFL but NFL history can make I guess right now it'd be no patent. Homes restored strictly. Aaron Rodgers in his prime and Michael Vick. mcnabb there are few guys possess the arm talent, the accuracy with the ability to maneuver in the pocket. The way whence does, and he was getting hit me through the ball to corey climate on the corner. Corner of the end zone was fantastic. Catch by Clement not not as last fantastic catcher that twenty seventeen, twenty seventeen season, as I'm sure you're aware which is phenomenal play and again you will have own Washington. Since dogs many here I expect that to continue for the rest of the re, our wentz Peterson era. dwayne Hassans at quarterback does not instill any confidence whatsoever me again. I hope he's their quarterback for as long as possible I. Don't what Washington to lose all of their games and twenty twenty I would like them to go like six and ten five and eleven have a couple upset wins, not against the Eagles obviously begins dowse New York just so they are out. Out of the Justin fields and Trevor Lawrence territory come the twenty twenty one juror. This brings me to our second discussion against an NFC east arrival. The New York giants Actually Eagles have a winning record against New York all time eighty, six, eighty, four to just get out just having that winning record not by a lot. They do have that winning record not GonNa. Hold all over the head of my giants friends from college they can make fun of about it that the eagles historically been terrible team, and just because of the success they've had last two decades has completely overtaken the giants and the all time leaderboard last twenty four Games Eagles are twenty and four against New York giants. They haven't be in the eagles and back to back gains. Since the George Bush administration and there've been. Countless countless mortgage more than any team in the League Eagles have memorable moments against the New York giants, I'm talking about Chuck benchmarks crushing devastating on Frank Gifford I'm talking about her. Edwards and the first miracle at the meadowlands I'm talking about Brian. WESTBROOK's punt return in a second miracle meadowlands I'm talking about the Sean Jackson's punt return at the miracle at the new meadowlands I'm talking about Jake. Elliott's season altering life faltering franchise altering sixty one yard field goal in week. Week three, two, thousand, seventeen that sent the eagles on a path to a nine game one st in super. Bowl title I'm talking about Randall Cunningham Duck and Carl banks throwing a strike in the end zone on Monday night football during the era, and putting him on the map of a true superstar, one of the most marketable players in the league marketable N. remarkable at the same time, and the I eighty four games from the two franchise's inception, historically the giants. Underway tiddle in the early hour of the NFL did quite well one a couple of championships. Obviously, the famous game is the nine hundred and fifty eight championship game. You know the first you know. Greatest game ever played which I'm sure is be yes, but it was the first time the NFL was really did some numbers on television. First game was really broadcast widely on television in a ton of people watched it, and obviously the sport has been the same since so strongly. The giants are good so up until through nineteen, seventy five. Which I pick that year because Dick from y'all took over the Eagles in seventy six, so through their the I eighty four games of eagles giants rivalry. Eagles were thirty to fifty to not great, but since then you've taken men and fifty four thirty four league, there was one bad stretching. From nineteen, ninety seven, so the end of the railroads was made the playoffs in nineteen, ninety six didn't make it again. Until two thousand so ran out range right there from nine hundred, ninety seven, the two thousand eagles lost nine games in a row to the giants that was a good Arab. Giants football giant, the Super Bowl in two thousand. And whilst to the Ravens in the championship, they believe out the Vikings and NFC, championship, game At the meadowlands coincidentally the giants Eagles, not once not choice, but three times met season they beat the eagles in the divisional round after the Eagles in the first playoff game of the read and Don mcnabb era, after they beat Tampa Bay buccaneers. They went to the old meadowlands lost in your ear went onto the super. Bowl and thankfully loss at Baltimore Ravens. That was when Ray Lewis one. MVP Trento horrors quarterback. Two thousand one. The switch flits. Eagles swept the giants for the first time since nineteen sits, and they wanted a vision for the first time since nineteen ninety eight not as most memorable four weeks set a week. Sixteen Eagles eked out a win. Against Newark, they almost almost loss the last play of the game. The giants friend is crazy. Flea flicker to Barbara to Ron Dixon. When's the last time you heard the name Ron Dixon? Damon Moore thank late. Eagles safety at the time tackled Dixon out the one or two or three or something like that Eagles almost blew it in classic. Eagles, fashion, they held on one of the vision for the first time since eighty eight. Over a decade giant still make the playoffs that year in the Eagles finding that giants monkey off their back. And it was just so rewarding to see. That's the first evil's real concrete memory of in my mind, so it's one of those things that will always stick with me. I'll always love that two thousand one eagles. That's First Eagles team, and that's the first game I. Really Remember so you know hate in the giants is at the essence of the core of my eagles fan on just as much as the next team will discuss I'm sure you know who I'm talking about. But through the two thousands, the eagles and giants were the two primary NFC east teams. And into the early twenty tens given that on. Two bowls in two thousand seven two thousand eleven. Eli Manning at some unbelievable playoff appearances the patriots in both years, but even then he was one a division Monday times, and obviously as we know, won the super bowl in twenty seventeen year, in which they beat the giants twice jake, Elliott kick fantastic season I loved it I still think we owned the giants I'm not scared. By Daniel Jones Daniel Jones I'm not scared of them in the slaves. And I think again like Washington I want them to okay this year in when five or six games, you know and beat the cowboys. Hopefully once I have one of those wins just again because I don't want to give up on Danny dime nickname for what a crap layer to quickly and I do not want them to be in the Trevor Lawrence Justin fueled joining you. You know if they have the number one pick, they might just take over running back for an offensive guard or something, because they had no idea how to build a franchise and twenty, what eighteen may selected running back with the second overall pick in the draft? He's the best running back. In the NFL and the team is absolute garbage. Show he doing what you're doing Dave. I love. It will be had a lifetime contract in New York. Baseball truly, it is awful I'm phillies writer? Justin clue, join me every week along with John Stolnis. Liz. Rozier Dr Trevor. strunk as we discussed all the ways. The phillies of hurt us on our podcast hidden season as well as historical anecdotes and Rar, emotional ramblings on shows, continued success and the dirty inning subscribe to the good fight, and you'll get conversations with insiders analysis of breaking news and stats stats stats together. We'll survive. Whatever baseball can throw at us? You know who the last team is going to be i. see the best for last. Thing That gives me life. The joker to my Batman the thing. I cannot live without he eagles cowboys, rivalry, obviously Dallas and historically great franchise. All this bowls all glory. The America's team bs all that crap. Shoot earlier is the national games the Thanksgiving gains, which is completely unfair advantage on. We'll get to different time about having Thursday game at home every single year. It's crap again netted discussion for later in the seas. Obviously, the Eagles all time record against Dallas, not particularly great. Fifty to sixty six. From December sixty seven until nineteen seventy eight data stretch where they were two and twenty one. against. The cowboys and that's obviously Tom Landry Roger Staubach. Couples who royal titles in period really down here Eagles football. My Dad was born in sixty nine so now he used to say that his father, my grandfather. Would discuss that. They didn't really they were never making this. They were crap. So the one thing they hope for year was to be doused. That was there Shula Bowl. They could just eat dowse once or twice in this season. That, was that made everything. Obviously, a didn't really happen. Given the. Su- out of twenty three games. But then the tide started the turn. In nineteen eighty, the will play the cowboys three times next season. They won two of them and most notably in the nineteen eighty NFC championship Game Rommel, but run run wilder run Wilbert Montgomery's icon. ICK, iconic touchdown, writing at the cowboys. The send them to the super. Bowl were they unfortunately to the against the Oakland Raiders. They weren't L. A. UP and. You know that was the first time it really felt like. The Eagles WanNa cowboy that was really that was all those eagles. Fans of that generation had was. That's why my dad. My Dad is what? Turn fifty one years old this fall that's. That's his thirty eight thirty seven nats, his big thing. That was the first time in his life. He felt like the eagles were truly truly better from the cowboys, and all the you know the junk that he grew up with with eighteen, heading the cowboys in just having all the bandwagon fans around on South Philly in the area. No thrown in your face. All those losers eagles were better than him on that day. Nick never take that away from the eagles thick. Never take that away from Wilbert Montgomery. Dick never take that from my father. And that's what I love about. Eagles cowboys, running in the buddy are from eighty. Six to ninety eagles had a great run. Against the capitals going nine one undergoing a little tangent, right? For one of my favorite stories, not just an NFL screw when all sports I'm talking about the nineteen eighty-seven, NFL strike, and if your followers subscriber to my newsletter, which religion this podcast, you like what I talk about. How are you not subscribing my newsletter? Patriot dot com back slash just two bucks a month two dollars. CHEWED is not three five two dollars per month I. Send You a newsletter every day Monday through Friday Six, seven eight nine hundred words helped him out. Philadelphia scored soon. pop culture talk with no sports being on the download right now, the pandemic. But you're eagles fan like my podcast like my twitter. It's just two bucks from around sign up beloved soon as eagles, season comes around as soon as the NBA Angel. MLB started again this summer. You'll be thankful that you have. One thing I've talked about frequently in my newsletter is a nineteen eighty seven NFL strike. And obviously I support the players, a thousand percent is that the players wanted you know the league became increasingly. Profitable and the players just wanted equal pay have more coverage for health benefits. Obviously, football's a devastating sport on players bodies on their minds on their brains. As we've seen in decades, and the players deserve that money. They're the ones going out in the field. There's the ones who are performing. No one's going to an eagles game to watch knowing. Brahman sit in the owner's box. The go near to watch reggie, white and Randall Cunningham. That's who they are going to see. My quick, not knowing Brahman or whoever owners they're out there. Marija little bit from my newsletter. I talked about the newsletter couple time to go on this little tangent. I start with a quote from Dick for meal. People take the Eagles for granted. A lot of guys have heard me say never let anyone take for granted. I get the feeling the dallas. Cowboys take us for granted right now. We're here because we earn the rights of the. Dallas cowboys. For granted bull whip there. You know what I hate the cobbles. It's in my blood. You're a third generation. Cowboys Hater as my dad said to me. It's part of my DNA in the rationality, the cowboys represent the antithesis of everything that makes the Eagles Philadelphia special. No story better personifies the dichotomy. Between the Cowboys Eagles. Fan Bases then the tail of the nine hundred seven NFL straight. There was a twenty four day strike. During week four through week, six of that NFL season much like the Keanu reeves movie that glorified scabs NFL owners feel the roster with replacement players cross the picket line while the NFL players association in better injury, care and salaries and increasingly profitable sport. Are Yun is only good as its members. If those union members remain cohesive collective, they can be a unified front while fighting for what they believe in not across the NFL remain more unified during the strike in the Philadelphia Eagles, Philly as I'm sure you're well aware. As a hardcore blue collar town with a strong union presence union made my body's Union May, Dad. Union worker proud of it. Support Union Workers Everywhere Eagles exemplified that aspect of their city as just three players cross the picket line doing so solely for injury reasons with the blessing of their teammates. The birds formed a human chain American replacing players who cheesecake owner. Norman Rodman. Who is a disgrace? Got To fill out the eagles roster. From Practicing Eagle's even listened to help the teamsters to enforce their strike. It was hard or I really can't see something like that ever happened today. That type of unity between players in the fan base I just don't see what the dichotomy way lot players unfortunately people and fans in the common folk. You players as these you know egotistical rich people in reality. That's who the owners are. Pliers their workers. They're putting their bodies in lot. In week four that year Eagles got demolished against the bears thirty five three week five. Found them traveling dowse take on their biggest rival. This is rivalry week on espy nation, some talk about my favorite aspect of the heels cowher's. The cowboys are divided when it comes to destroy dowse like Texas hope is not a union stronghold. They have no pressure from the city to keep together Dallas owner Tex Schramm. Is A strike breaker. As superstars Randall Cunningham in Reggie white remain in solidarity with their striking brothers. Countless cowboys players crossed the picket line, and off dowse pro bowl quarterback, Danny White, in addition hall of Famers, Tony, Dorsett and randy white or among those did. Terrible. TERRIBLE TERRIBLE DISGRACE! How can you like Dallas after that? Given the gigantic disparity in town as eagles were using guys who hung out in the at Seventeen Shung. The birds were embarrassed, losing forty, one the twenty two. Legendary cowboys coach Tom Landry. Being Smug, you know what that he was round the score instruct defiance of the strike, another side of the Field Eagles head coach Buddy Ryan privately supported a strike and his players. He was fuming. Landry embarrassed him the eagles. Philadelphia the northeast dozen forget. As more and more players cross the picket line. The strike ended after week six without the NFL given to any of the players demands. It didn't work because of the cowardice of guys like doors set and white, the eagles roster back, though and getting ready to further week seven opponent the cowboys, they would now be playing at home at Veterans Stadium The legendary the iconic veteran stadium. Want blood as he should have. Everything. DOWSE and Landry didn't use a feel. His players, the Burj showcasing power acting as one. took an insurmountable lead. Over. The cowboys worth thirty to twenty late in the game. After kneeling on two consecutive place Eagles are faced with thirty nine thousand situation at the cowboys, thirty five yard line with just ten seconds left on the clock. A Neil endgame body has a trick up his sleeve. Though when Randall Cunningham takes the snap under center. He fakes kneel down catching the cowboys players whose expected Lazy End to the game off guard and serving a dart to Mike Ensign. Quick it's them all by dowse defense back trying to prevent the sheer baron from happening. The cowboys are fly with pass. Interference Eagles are given the ball at the one yard. You know what happens next Cunningham takes a snap hands it off to run back east. Leaps, over the line of scrimmage in in for touchdown. The Birds Win, Thirty, seven twenty. They rammed the score just as Landry did a few short weeks back. It was humiliating humiliating. Move on Buddy, Ryan's or And being the blue collar guy like to believe I am. And not I could not I could not love it more. It's the ultimate revenge play on a franchise as repulsive in this town as the Dallas cowboys. Yes, needles didn't make the postseason at year, but it surely felt like the beginning of the buddy, Ryan are and swagger, the absolute swagger. Those squads would always carry themselves with the next season. was went eleven and five, and made the playoffs the next season the cowboys went one and fifty. Mic Drop my job Mike Drum. That's not it though. I Thought it was done talking about the cowboys almost the half hour mark. You thought it was done talking about the cowboys. I think back to the Eagles last game. End Kelly Green January seven nineteen ninety-six. The Eagles lost playoff game to the eventual champion Dallas. Cowboys. That was the last game in last season. The Eagles were Kelly Green say midnight Green Kelly Green last time they were Kelly. Green, that also happened to be the last time eagles. Or she said last time the cowboys. Ever wanted to. In everyone's super bowl again as eagles in that nineteen ninety-six season. Change, their colors from the classic Kelly Green to the modernized midnight green. Obviously, that's a whole debate. My podcast. He was one who midnight green. They should keep that forever so I grew up on Kelly as a third Bosnia, Jersey go for Neagle. Switch the midnight ninety six. They made the playoffs that year and I think back to in November I believe. The game was late in the game. Troy aikman frozen interception? To James Willis in Dallas. WHO's running the sideline? James Waltzes linebacker Big Boys Lavar curtain style Linebacker, he laterals at the Troy Vincent who's scammers, all the way to the end zone for touching on a gain ceiling picks hand off whatever you WanNa, call it. And it was at that moment that the power shifted away from thousand NFC East. They were no longer the premier team in the NFC. As. We talked about before the giants had that ninety seven to two thousand runs so Kinda went to work at that point. But by the twenty first century was premiered. Seem the NFC east, but the Philadelphia Eagles. Blogging the boys, the terrible terrible terrible cowboys here at the nation that did it tweet the other day that I came upon on the time on said, what is your cowboys? Would your favorite cowboys rivalry presuming talking to cowboys? Fans none of them. Are Dallas subsidy live all across the country? And I said my favorite cowboys robbery is the cowboys versus twenty percent. But since then as was discussing. New Eagles have gobbles. owned, but the eagles been been that premier team and NFC east over the last two decades. In the end, read our. They were sixteen and twelve came with those four straight NFC championship game appearances division titles, the iconic four to six game in two thousand eight, where they absolutely smashed destroyed a winner. Go home game in week seventeen against the cowboys Brian Dawkins last home, green home game in midnight green for the birds. The hozeal Hanson everyone it was it was it was a game. It was a night. The GIARDI turned into a Nardi unbelievable day in Eagles history. I wish I. was there have season tickets yet, but again historically I wish I could have gone. Then we have the twenty seven. Thirty seven to ten game birds losing ten to nine halftime Sunday night football was getting a little stressed out. Twenty eight on answer points. In the second half of the Niger Brad Defensive Touchdown Eagles Lot one for two times I believe what early in the Game Kenyan Barner to touch now, leaper not. And, then, obviously, as a kind of twenty, twenty-seven seen, the rivalry has gone up a notch even more since the twenty sixteen track with the teens landed their respective franchise quarterbacks, the Eagles Carson wentz in the cowboys in Preska, unfortunately to this day to appoint that hurts me in my heart, and my body makes me physically sick right now to say. And the Doug Peterson our the cowboys. Have, a better record than eagles had eagles, a three and five against the cowboys twenty sixty. Twenty twenty NFL season goes on his plan. I Expect Eagles who ran the league this season at five hundred, or maybe even better. The both teams made the playoffs. We're going three and out. We're going three against Dallas this year I'm GonNa. Go aren't predict that right now. The Eagles and cowboys going to make the Playoffs Eagles are GonNa win the division. They're not the number one seed in the NFC dowse in the regular season in the second round, the divisional around the First Eagle's playoff game at the twenty one season. They going to get Dallas at home and they're gonNA smack the crap that. Know, what. They win three games gas, what they're six and five against the cowboys in the Doug Peterson our. It's going to happen on telling you. It's going to happen I. Need this NFL season. Go on I. DON'T CARE IF I can't even be there in the stands again if it'd be terrible, Eagles home, even the link. I couldn't be there physically, but the same. Same time I know it's best for the world I know. Health comes first bigger than sports. Football does go on. We have some someone's of the season loud enough as long as we get those two cowboys games, and that Eagles defeated the cowboys and the playoffs. That'd be twenty. Tony will still be pretty terrible one of the worst series of all time also. Part of my civil lines playbook as issue. 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Phinsider Radio: Talking NFL Combine, Kyler Murray vs. Dwayne Haskins, and the Dolphins plans for the future

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Phinsider Radio: Talking NFL Combine, Kyler Murray vs. Dwayne Haskins, and the Dolphins plans for the future

"Radio pogo dot com, any Espy nation network. And now your host at you cannot joined by co-hosts, Josh outs and air inside. Hello everybody and welcome to side radio. This is magic out a joined by Aaron sudden and Joshua outs. And the NFL combine is officially underway in Indianapolis, Indiana. A Lucas oil stadium players arriving front offices arriving. We are going to be heading to the word culture over the next few days. Make g stay tuned to the center dot com and all of us on Twitter as we bring you the very latest from the NFL scouting combine on Friday. The running backs offensive line kickers and special teams will go on Saturday. The quarterbacks wide receivers tight ends will work out on Sunday the defensive linemen and linebackers will work out and on Monday. It's the -fensive backs, of course, obviously in between before and after we play. Interviews coach. It's us general manager interviews and on Wednesday morning Miami Dolphins head coach, Bryan Flora's and general manager Chris queer spoke to the media symbol there. And we will touch on that also touch on some draft debate topics such as the quarterbacks more partly Cuyler Murray versus Dwayne Haskins which one is better which one might come on top, which one will probably get drafted. I and moving into that. We'll Kyla Murray go number one overall. And if so where does Josh Rosen then lands whilst kinda run down a few other storylines heading into combine week. But I do want to start off by saying that our own Aaron an a Ron in is headed to the NFL. Combine representing pro football network on our dot com on Twitter at PFM three sixty five as you all know, what's our little project here that we do all three of us together. With plenty of great staff. You'll also be representing us here on Finsider radio and the Finsider dot com. Partly espionage. In network, g kinda pulling double duty there. But man, how excited are you to be on the ground at the NFL combine, which I think is one of the top five events that the NFL puts on top three top two definitely not the top ones Super Bowl is. But I would argue besides the draft. Then combine is the place to be obviously super excited didn't know that this would ever be an opportunity just wanna go and not making Atta myself and be a student of the game and absorb as much as I can I'll be with some other good guys. And no see a few more others there. They know this is going to be as much of a networking thing as it will be on the field sort of performance, and it's kinda cool that the reasons combine is going to be interesting as maybe not the reasons that those people might think it's not gonna be the workouts and drills and stuff like that. It's going to be. Some of the things that happened behind the scenes, and that's why I'm super excited just roll my sleeves up and just absorb as much as I can. I'll be a tremendous opportunity for you. And I'm jealous even though you know, we run PFM three sixty five together all of us. But obviously, work schedules and family commitments all of that. So you are going with Brett Yaris and Chris Brunner to members of the staff there, the PFM Staffan again like I mentioned also covering for the Finsider infant side radio. So you definitely have your work. Cut outs. What are you looking forward to the most sign as to the position groups, not only working out put the interview processes while when they meet with the media during their Disney today, what's gonna be interesting just to see the whole process how it unfolds for the media. You know, where are we allowed to stand? How close are we allowed to get to the action? How you know how how available are all the all the players. We know that they're going to be available from two o'clock to five o'clock in the evening each day. But we don't know is what order the players come in. And are there simultaneous podiums open? And it's basically each. Choose who you're going to ask different times. So those types of things I'm going to kind of have to figure out on the fly also in the same vein. I'd saw Bryan Florez Chris Greer interviewed the smarting. I wasn't sure known some of the NFL communications that I had received through PF n that. You know, what's it wasn't apparent which teams in which coaches would be available which times it was very clear that it's gonna be kind of a fluid process. So I'm gonna see when I get there Friday morning, and I'm just like I said, it's gonna roll my sleeves up and get to as much action as I can. And if you know finding a sneak some of my kids in there and helped me accumulate knowledge and info that I'm gonna do that. You'll be making sure we are all stayed at informed of the latest updates on your Twitter feed on the Twitter feed on the inside of the com- everywhere. I know you're going to be hard at work. But let's go back to Wednesday morning when Chris Greer and Brian floors spoke Miami Dolphins general manager and head coach respectively. They had a few interesting tidbits. I think the biggest hit bit. They came out of. This was a few things we're going to touch on all of them number one. They said they want to remain in the future with the team is plans the expect to be there. The exact quote from believe, it was Chris Greer. He said he was asked. Where'd you think stand with Howard? And he said, yes, I'm very confident that he'll be there exceeding has been in the building. He's coming back working out and getting in shape again after the proble he's doing good who've been hanging out around him. He wants to be a Miami dolphin. We want him to be a dolphin. And there is a lot of discussion from media and from fans made up discussion I thought. Because I think we had pretty much consistently said here on this show that we were very confident that Howard remained dolphin just based on the defensive philosophy alone from the New England Patriots where they have their strong corners shut down their number one and number two on the opponent posing offense and using that as your strength and to kinda build their defense around that. So when the talk sort of coming up the dolphins would maybe trading saving Howard for future draft picks. It just didn't make sensory because he is one of the best corners in the NFL. And he's going to cost money. You don't draft guys just to let them walk. That's not how you build a team. So I thought that was interesting before we touch on that. And also just want to talk about John James, another player that many are talking about an Chris Greer said that John James had got married last weekend to graduations, John. And they said that they'll be talking to his camp after the combine they both agreed on it. But it sounded like that, you know, he wants Joon to stay to wants to say. But obviously they're going to let the market dictate of kind of money. He makes out there. And see what they can do to kind of work around that let's start with exellent Howard. How some of the throw this? Once you. I mean, guys elite. He's gonna be paid like an corner gonna be paid the highest corner in the NFL at least until the next cornerback signs a contract. But, but I think it's good news to hear that Chris queer saying they want exhibit and saving wants to be there. And that's something we touched on all three of us in last week show. So I mean, it's nice to hear Chris kirkum out there and say that the dolphins are gonna focus on sign in their own. But one thing we all need to realize he said exerting Howard is going to be on the team. He predicts he will be on the team next season. He's under contract next season. The dolphins not need to give him a new contract this year. It's just something in their best interest. Because you've got a guy who's starting to get better each and every year. Yes. The health is still concerned. I think all three of us agree that they need to do diligence, Sarah. But if that was boxes are checked exerting Howard is one of the best defensive backs in the NFL you stole Stefan Gilmore that defense. It's going to be similar. They're going to have those physical corners at the line. Exuding Howard is physicals. They come. I mean that was part of the reason. You know, he had those falls come out of the out of a Baylor. Because he he was a guy that was very handy. The line consistently got penalized ended it would just continue to grow. And now this guy's finally starting to own his skills. He's becoming one of the true shutdown corners in the NFL. We all know he was led the league interceptions. He's a playmaker. It's good here. Chris crusades gonna bring him back on anxious. You guys think about John James because that's gonna be a very interesting thing to see how that plays out with his bat. Dolphins offensive line has been lately. So let's switch to John James and son. I'm gonna throw this one to you again, Chris said Joon just got married, and they would work with him after the combine. But here's what he also said he said we drafted him here. And he's good young player. We'd like to have him here. And we'll see what the market is in what he's looking for as well. When asked how important Joon James would be as an inker for the offensive line, especially right? Tackle Chris Greer when I say this it's wellness box. You have to check going out at the end of the day. The organization will do what's best for the dolphins is a good guy. He's. Worked hard. He's been here and his good teammate teammate. So we'll see what happens now for me that reads between the lines this. We'd love to have drawn to back. We liked him as a player. But when Chris Greer said at the end of the day will do best for the dolphins. It sounds like the aren't going to overpay him. And what you want James is probably the best right? Tackle on the free agent market. They may get out of his price range. What do you think sign? I agree with that read. I think. It's a way of saying we like to on James, I hope that his representation comes in with a very kind of free flowing, the Goshi style and not to say that you're just gonna make whatever contract happened. But you're gonna come in with a really, let's work together attitude, and I think that's the conditions that they wanna try to create because I do think that they want to keep John James, right? Tackle it would make sense to not have to think of another important piece in the trenches factor because it's already a huge issue on both sides of the ball. So if you add another element that that's not a good situation. So if you can potentially limit some of the fallout. From how the roster's constructed in from some of the other rumors that will get to here in a second. I think keeping John James at a at a reasonable market value make sense. So hopefully, they're just kind of massaging how the atmosphere is going to be when they go into the contract talks. When you talk about the dolphins. And the thing that's going out. Now. Suppo- or build team right way. We've talked about this on the show in detail. No one's going to on tank. It's just gonna be the process organically. It's going to happen. But the idea is to get that future quarterback. And. They're talking about two from Alabama and two was a left handed quarterback. And the blind side will be the right tackle position. So of they're really truly thinking that they may have a shot at to next year's draft. Wouldn't it that make sense to really focus on getting John James locked up long-term or perhaps they'll say if John James walked draft the right tackle in this year's draft your next year's draft. And groom that guy to be the blind spot protector because left quarterback things kind of change on that. I definitely think that's a good point. I won't say that right? Tackle is completely obsolete compared to the left tackle. Because what defensive coordinator have done over the years is they just rotate the blitz packages and all the GATT pressures in all the confusion towards the side of the offense of Linus. We. So if you're weak on the right tackle, they're going to find a way to manipulate that. So you really can't be week anywhere on the offense of line. So, but with that being said left tackle becomes a blindside becomes undoubtedly more important. Tweet it out earlier this in thing about the two and people wanna tank, you know, tank for two, but then you don't want to go out there, and and resigned, John James, I heard someone say, you know, you might make twelve million will told me and put them above lane. John's news currently, you know, top the NFL. So I don't see John James breaking twelve million guys think about that. But I think it was all somebody come down to whether or not team is willing to pay him to be the number one. Right. Tackle in the NFL. You know? So if someone's willing to give that type of money, it's not in the dolphins best interest. But if you're going to let this man walk over a couple million dollars. I just don't see it because the dolphins are not good at drafting offense of mean we've seen at their best offense alignments guide that the phone their lap in the first round that they'd can't draft him. Yes. This is a new regime, but they've struggled to find offensive line town in the draft. They've failed to do in free agency uh. So I just don't see how letting a twenty what five twenty six year old, right? Tackle hit the free agency of market if you. Can if you can avoid that you do it at all cost build around those two book ends and good things. Eventually come and the dolphins spent plenty of years trying to get that offense the line in shape for quarterback Ryan tannehill. And now it looks like you're going to have to rebuild the entire line. And they're also likely moving from Ryan Santa hill. And Brian floors was asked about tannahill in Wednesday's press conference. He said this. He said right now, everything is kind of in process I've been here three and a half weeks we've gone through the nations of the roster. Everything is in process. We still have time obviously mates me valuations, but will still have time to make those decisions. Obviously, this was something that was non-committal from Brian Flora's. Obviously, we all know that Ryan tannehill is going to be moved on from this off season at some point whether via trade Cup or anything. We just don't know the timing. It's not a matter of if it's a matter of when we talked about Ryan tannehill on the show and whether or not as right move. And we all agreed that it is the right move to move on from tannehill. And is the end of the tannehill era in Miami. Whether or not he lands, whether it's in Washington Cincinnati somewhere. We'll see how that shakes. I do hope the dolphins are able to get some kind of trade compensation for him. I would expect maybe a fourth or fifth round pick at it's a miracle. If they get anything higher than that. But you gotta take what you can get. So he will be gone from Miami. I will be very surprised if he's in Miami this coming season. So we'll see how that plays out there. Another guy Cameron wake. And when Chris Greer was asked about that. Here's what he said right now with the roster in Brian. We're going through everything he's been a dolphins minute tremendous player for us. So we'll see where that is right now. And we'll have conversations with him and his agent probably soon. Now, I know we talked about this on the show, we all gave our opinion house hearing that and hearing that what is your take on the dolphins interest in bringing wake back. I mean, we talked about it you give this guy whatever he wants. I mean, if he's not looking for top dollar not looking for a team that he can go out there and get ten with playing a meaningful playoff game. You know, maybe make it deep into a playoff run that something that he deserves. I just think if he wants come back and play Miami, which I'm sure he does because he's a lifer. Pry the best thing Jeff islands ever done. If Cameron wake wants back in my in the numbers are right. You bring him back because what that can do to younger, but defensive ends pass rushers. Just every day going around there and seeing what can wake does at his age. I think that's motivation for the entire team. I think that's the right way to build. You know, you need to have that veteran presence in in the locker room. So I think camera wakes deserved to have his decision made whether or not he wants to stay Miami. Then you you give it to him if he wants to go elsewhere respect that let him go play for contender. If can wake wants to be a dolphin. Let him be a dolphin. Absolutely. There's no reason. Dowden. So we saw what he did and Mike Nolan defense granted that was several years ago. But there's still the potential that he could make some plays. I mean, he he came back through an injury in the production that he had made a very strong argument become back player of the year. So I think he could absolutely do something in this defense. So really just matters very much. How he values the dollar signs and whether he wants to kind of keep his legacy and Miami. And I am willing to accept whatever decision came and wake wants to make because he has certainly earned that from our fan base. And I suspect that they're meeting with his agent and wake of he attends as well. We'll just be about the philosophy of the team moving forward for this coming season and beyond. And I do think they will have an offer for wake ready. But ultimately as you said sign, it will be up to wake I am matching as to whether or not he truly wants to come back based on hearing their plan for the future. We'll see we'll see how it shakes out. That's going to be a interesting situation to watch on the one hand doesn't really make sense. But on the other hand, it does make sense in terms of helping build the culture that Brian Flora's is trying to establish with the Miami Dolphins another culture he's trying to establish at the quarterback position. Whether it's a rookie, whether it's a ridge quarterback or trading for someone like Josh Rosen, and that's going to lead us into the Cuyler Murray and Wayne Haskins debate. Lots of talk about Cuyler Murray's heights under six feet shorter than Baker Mayfield by all accounts. He hasn't been officially measured in at the combine as we record this podcast. We don't know exactly what is height is going to be questions about his hand size point Haskins questions about him to Cuyler Murray, possibly going number one overall to the cardinals with cliff Kingsbury, and if that happens and Josh Rosen becomes available for me, and I'll start this off because I know we're going to talk about his height. I don't think height matters a ton mean Brock Osweiler is one of the tallest quarterbacks in the league. And how many times where his passes batted down at the line of scrimmage. Plenty of times. I think it depends on your throwing motion the way read the defenses the way you manipulate the defenses in the defensive line on the linebackers and getting them off the ball to make the throws that you need to throw. Yes, obviously, he wouldn't do a little bit more to adjust a little bit more to compensate and that may take toll mentally on him at some points. Yes. I know he had one of the best offense of lines in all of college football massive offensive line. Definitely won't get that with the dolphins. But again, I'm going back to this. If the dolphins have shot at Cuyler Murray, you pull the trigger. Do I think he's wanted phone number thirteen hell, no? I think he's a top five pick for sure we all know how teams value the quarterback position this league. If you think twelve other teams are going to pass up on him. And then the other thirty one or whatever it would be based on that match twenty four twenty three teams pass up on him and not trait up for him. I think you're crazy to think that because it just how special this guy can be and everyone was talking about Baker Mayfield dropping to the end of the first round last year. And dude was the number one overall pick. So I'm not buying this talked to Kyla Murray will be a second round pick. He's going to be a first round pick. And you know, looking at what Chris Greer set about Kyle Murray and not Cuyler Mary. But Brian floor is said about Kyla Murray. These great athlete phenomenal player, Chris Greer said about horror Bax, they want them to be mentally strong and very smart quarterbacks and fundamentally sound if you do draft Kyla Moore you get that bridge quarterback in Miami. Still and you build your offensive line over the next two years so Kayla Marie can sit his first year and learn from the sideline and then take the reins in year two outside. I know you both have very strong opinions about Kyla Murray outside think of one of the strong opinions about Kyle Moorish all start with you. If it comes down to Carla Marie and twain Haskins who are you selecting? I mean that is that is the debate of the NFL draft season are kinda pondered myself. You know, what if Miami just wanted to go for, you know, they they know a franchise Quebec wolf they move up to number one. Then from there decide on column or Dwayne Haskins. I mean, you see, you know, one guy fits all the size requirements that Bill Parcells only guys came before believed that a quarterback needed to have. But collar Merimee watching him play football. Everyone keeps saying, you know, he's kinda like a Michael Vick or he has a little bit of Russell Wilson a little bit of Pat Mahomes. I mean column is going to be Tyler Murray. And just I think everyone is going to be put on notice real quick when he runs at forty when he goes out there and prove that he is the most accurate passer straffed prove that he can make all the NFL throws. I mean, I think Wayne Haskins I'm gonna stay Finn. And I'm gonna miss that right now. I think in Haskins Zaveri quarterback, I think he would fit this system. Very well. I think you know, maybe Dwayne has. Is the best fit for the Miami Dolphins. But for me, I wanna collar Marie I wanna guy that's gonna go out there and just make electrifying plays each. And every time if it's me on moving up for column or at all costs, you know, I don't think he's gonna get past Zona. I dunno talk about that more. But I just think with the comments that came out today. I think if Josh Rosen was your guy, you'd went out there, and at least try to reassure him a little bit because you gain nothing trade value is by saying, you know, Josh roses, my quarterback for now will what does that mean if you would want out there and said, we don't want cholera will teams would have started calling. I think so it didn't make sense to me clippings, very said on record that he will take column number one overall if he could now he has the chance but for me, Dwayne Haskins color Marie. I think those are the cream of the crop of this year's draft class. Those are the two quarterbacks that I believe will be franchise quarterbacks will be leaders of NFL team sooner later for me. I just see more, you know, elite for something. You have never seen before like a collar Mery Dwayne Haskins. I mean, I think he fits the mold of of guys who've come before. And that's not a bad thing. Someone asked me who I think he could be say Philip rivers on a standby that column though, I think he can just be a one of the better players to ever lace up his cleats. So for me, I'm going column. They're both good. You know, let's omit that in hill is. Ranking them is maybe one of the least important parts of this whole conversation. Just because they're both really good athletes. And I'm very curious how both of them turn out to to play in the NFL. The ranking is largely irrelevant because they're the clear to best quarterback. So. Again, it's going to be kind of lucky to see how these guys pan out because maybe happens as little overlooked because he's boring. He's that kind of stereotypical pocket passer, and he's a little safer. He's at safe guy. He kinda checks all the boxes, and you don't see really anything stand out glaring on the tape. He's not he certainly not Doug Flutie out there. Make people miss in the pocket, but he's has a very sound arm. Cuyler Murray little bit more risky of a pick. But you cannot deny talent cannot deny the ceiling. So it really depends on the team that is in the situation to look at these players which teams can afford to be risky, and which teams really needs to be safe. And that as completely attained by team sich situation by situations or thing, so. The reason I like Haskins though, a little bit better than Cuyler. And that's the reason we are looking at the competition that they have played recently. The big ten just seems to value playing team defense a little bit more than a big twelve and yes stats can be really skewed. Because you have the whole shovel pass phenomenon. Where players are getting fifty seventy five yards touchdowns on shuffle passes where they're really not doing anything. So let's just admit that that for both players Cuyler and Dwayne Haskins their stats are a little bit skewed. By the fact that they're allowed to get away with certain things within their offense. That makes it seem that they're doing a little bit more than what they do. But anyway. Dwayne Hassans I feel like compared to previous highest state quarterbacks. He's planning a more pro style offense. And as a result of that Keiler, I think and don't get me wrong. The run pass balance with him is completely lethal. I also think that offense was based mostly on a I read sort of thing. So if NFL defense's get onto you and they get their fangs into your little bit. And how to slow you down whether physically mentally you can assure that NFL defensive coordinators are going to make sure that Keiler stays in the pocket. And when he's in the pocket based on the Oklahoma often said he went through. Does he have enough experience going through second third? Fourth reads. To kind of MIR what he can expect from NFL defense's is that going to slow his athleticism down because he's thinking a little bit more. So those types of nuance conversations need to happen in these front offices. Clearly Cuyler Murray is going to demand a little bit more. Attention to detail when you're creating the roster. I think you've really have to build. The offense specifically around Cuyler Dwayne Haskins is a little bit more of that again boring stereotypical quarterback that could probably thrive in a couple of different schemes column. Early skews me Cuyler Murray as talented as he is. We'll probably need a little bit more structure into in terms of manufacturing a consistent offense. I don't know if the dolphins would pull the trigger on column or even if he was available. I just feel like they are so set on their process of building this team the way they want you, which is not a bad thing at all. They have in mind exactly what they want which is again, not a bad thing. It's a very good thing that they wouldn't pull the trigger on Cuyler. And they may be used that spot where they are in the graph to trade out and get more picks for the future. That'd be my guess. So it'd be a big surprise one. If even filling the thirteen and two it'd be a bigger surprise again if the dolphins actually selected collar Murray because of this. Cuyler Murray has a very low floor very high ceiling, but very low floor twain Haskins for me as a high floor and smaller ceiling than Carla Murray. And for those who may not be aware or unsure of what that exactly means. It means this if you have a high floor, it means teams have a good idea. Even if you're worse than they expected, you're still going to be in that area where they think your floor is so of my floor or if Dwayne Haskins floor is a he's a above average quarterback. No matter how bad or no matter how much she struggles in the NFL. He's always going to be at the very league in above average quarterback. That's his floor his ceiling will he be a franchise early quarterback. No one knows. But let's say a ceiling as that. He could be a great quarterback. So that's your range between Haskins. And this is just throwing this out. There is not based on anything any reports that we've completed his range would be above average two greats Cuyler Murray on the other hand, I think. His floor is bust. His ceiling is all pro. And I don't know if you guys agree with that or not. But that's how I look at these two quarterbacks. I completely agree. That's why I said it kind of in the beginning of my rant that. It really depends on the team looking at it. It's is it a team that can afford to take that type of risk or do you want to kind of play safer join Haskins? So it's really a matter of taste. It's really a matter of. How you have your board for me with Haskins. He just ranks a little bit higher. This may seem like a slight at first, but let me talk through it Byran left which but with a quicker delivery, tough leader smart, decisive accurate. He checks a lot of boxes and a highest state might have a little bit of a bias considering how some of the quarterbacks have come through that program, where it's, you know, the J T Barrett and the in another quarterback like Troy Smith, you have those types of quarterbacks that was more of a a run pass option sort of team. And with join Haskins it was much more of a traditional pro off under urban minor. So I thought that type of evolution offense. Really sick. Signified? How good doing Haskins is as passer he makes every pass look effortless. And I think if the dolphins are any position to get Wayne Haskins. That's not completely unfeasible. You you look at that opportunity in Haskins doubt the best house stay quarterback. That's come out. You know for as long as I can remember and to think what he could do in this offense. You know, his game. Is those accurate short intermediate passes Ness would Haskins does so well, I think you'd be perfect for chatter Shays offense. But again, you mentioned it sounds like he might be better barn left, which to me. I think you need to do a little bit better than Byron left, which I think a collar Marie is the guy I know that he isn't a traditional quarterback. He doesn't fit any of the size requirements. He he's just a different player into no that he's gonna go out there and likely run under four point four of the forty. No, he continues to balk up. He's at two six now. So what? You're gonna fault him for that eight of an inch Shetty short. I don't see I think round up. He's five ten to six can make every NFL throw asked of him can completely revolutionized the game of football. See a Russell Wilson. I see an elite talent. Yes, he could be a bust. But I think the only way that that could happen is if you know, something severely bad happens to him. I think an injury is the only way that could happen because this guy has all the skills end for me. I think you need to do a little bit better than just you know, a very good quarterback. You know, a top fifteen top ten quarterback. That's great. But I think Marie can be better than that. You know, he could do a Baker Mayfield in my opinion, thinking go out there. And he's not as polished as Baker. If it doesn't fit those requirements can't make some throws Mayfield Kim because that's one of the best quarterback said of come out in recent memory, but column can can do a lot of the same things. And I don't think he'll be there for Miami. But for me. Who I build my franchise around. I agree. But let's say he goes number one overall do trade for Josh Rosen. It would depend I talked about his thirteen the number thirteen pick. That would be something that you'd have to really talk about because you can get an elite talent there. We saw Minka last year right around there, you know, during when James this year is going to be very good Ed rushers the dolphins desperately need that. So for me, it would come down. So, you know, weighing those players that are likely going to be available in Josh Rosen. I think last year wasn't there. Lots of rumors him going into England. Could you not see him the Bill Belichick train up? You know for me if it's a second I would heavily consider third youthful trigger right away. I do think that's how relieved annoy column or is going to be the pick there. I think if you if you invest in a guy you bring a cliff Kingsbury, see what he didn't college. That's why brought him any wasn't very successful. But he had that air raid offense, and you need to have a quarterback with. Column or skill set. I think it'd be perfect. But if he hits if he if he goes number one, you think on much rather trade for Dwayne Haskins. Maybe Josh Rosen. It would be tough. I'm I'm not sure for me. It's column or your bust. If you get Wayne Haskins, you gotta feel happy. Josh rosen. Second or third sign me up on the house feels. No, I wouldn't do it. After after Dwayne Haskins in Cuyler Murray. My interest kinda fades, I think Josh Rosen would be in a similar category today. Jones, Andrew lock, and that's not the type of quarterback that think's gonna move the needle for the for the organization's. I'd rather wait. I think it's going to be very interesting to see the dolphins offseason. Moves sounds like going to add a few pieces in free agency. And then I think you're just going to trade down a lot in the drought traits players away and stockpile picks as much as possible to have the flexibility move up and down the board not only this year, but next year as well is I do think organically, we all believe organically that losses are willing to come on their own no such thing as tainting in the NFL NBA. Yes, NFL there's no way. Not with this sport. We'll see how it all shakes out this coming season this coming off season. I do believe in the vision that Flora's Greer. Reggie mckenzie. Marvin Allen all-share together the same aligned vision. It just kind of refreshing to see that offense for once doing things the right way any last thoughts. Son in house before we wrap up the show. Just wanna thank everybody that helped me along the way on the Twitter streets mean Twitter streets, help kinda raise a Twitter kindergartner to somebody. That's going to the combine. So thank everybody along the way, especially cannot a an an how you guys were the ones that convinced me to do it in the first place. So it's. I got how how many years we've been doing this? I mean, it's ridiculous. Be safe. Enjoy yourself drink, lots of beer and. And just just be Sutton. Lisa fun sign. I don't want anything stupid. I don't know. What that means? I the only thing I I know what? Oh, I don't end up in Kentucky again. So I don't. So basically, I don't walk to a different state. And I don't get anyone pregnant are those Mike too. You say visa nuts? Kind of what I don't be. Don't be son. 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"There's crispy and then there's crispy our new and improved Tyson crispy chicken strips crispy just got crispy welcome to NFL why presented by KFC losing losing those. We've got to win football over the hell we'd be last week. Prescott throws it in the end so I can say that sure we might have sniffed yourself a little bit too much. We know attained. We have we have this year. We had the chance. We have the chance throughout the season. We just didn't get the job done. See yourself making significant changes going forward. I certainly can see myself a lot of change and a lot of and round and round we go ahead on. Nfl Live is decision day. In Dallas with the New Year underway. The cowboys are back at work. And we continue. Continue to wait on clarity regarding Jason Garrett Future as the head coach the redskins however have their man and coming up to eastern they will officially introduce Ron Rivera Rivera as the team's new head coach. We'll take you there live and ESPN DOT COM has its playoff quarterback rankings. A few that may surprise you are analysts weigh in with opinions liens their roads and new. NFL Live this afternoon. Jj Watt coming back. A midseason foreign pectoral muscle a short time ago bill. O'Brien said Watt will. Oh play Saturday against the bills and will be in there. Quite a bit Ryan also says will fuller. We'll be a game time decision the Texans and built Saturday on ESPN AND ABC at four thirty Eastern. And to get you up to speed on head coaches who are interviewing today Brown's interviewing Mike McCarthy. He will meet with the giants tomorrow. The giants giants will talk to cowboys. Defensive backs coach Chris. Richard and the panthers are interviewing chiefs. Ford Mayor. Eric the enemy Chris Rashard word I should say hello and that's it for Thursday. What a week it's been we're having with us on? NFL Live Wendy next Anderson. Victor Cruz Rob Ninkovic. Show again the giants the panthers and the browns looking for a new head coach the redskins about to introduce. There's begging the question fellows ladies ladies and fellows what about the Dallas cowboys. Could it be that. No news is good news for Jason Goats Future and Dallas. The head coaches contract expires any day. Now and deliberations appear continue Jason Garrett Meeting Jerry Jones for the third day this week and there is still nothing definitive regarding his future in Dallas in whatever Capacity et water. Is There Ed. We'll start with what you are hearing on the ground when he the mystery here at the star four days after the cowboys season ended in failure resist. Why isn't Jerry Jones out looking for a head coach? And why isn't Jason Garrett looking for his next job as Jones gets resume their series series of meetings. I can tell you this people inside the building and begun to wonder if Garrett is going to have a role with the cowboys in twenty twenty whether as the head coach or in another capacity after finishing eight eight Wendy for the fourth time remember Garrett after his final game said he wanted to remain the head coach of the cowboys for a tenth full season season. And at this point he has not yet been dismissed. His faith and future remain undecided. What would add the hesitation be With regards to moving on Jason Garrett you know it's difficult to imagine that Jerry Jones could justify that decision to his fan base but Garrick Gary could certainly make a compelling argument for his return by reminding Jones that he deserved blame in this too when they talk last off season about an extension that Garrett wanted I I was told he wanted the security of the contract or if the died enforced to coach his final season then Garrett wanted to control his own fate by calling plays he was denied both requests us and Jones promoted Kellyn more with one season of coaching experience offense coordinator and empowered him to call plays for the first time in his career. It seems Jones referred to this and and admitted culpability when he said late Sunday night that they did some things dramatically with the coaching staff that he is owner had a lot of involvement in and Jones. Said you can't unhanged that totally around Garrett's neck. The cowboys had a record season on offense but exposed their defense first time in the Dak.. Prescott Ezekiel Elliott era. That they cowboys cowboys failed to have more time possession than their opponents and so garrick continues his dialogue with the front office. Here while assistant on Defense Chris recharges interviewing the head coaching job with the giants job that Garrett would want likely if not returning to the cowboys interesting thank you. It has been quite some time since the height of the cowboys. Glory glory days. Dallas won three Super Bowls in Jerry Jones's first seven seasons of ownership but then haven't been back since and have more eight eight seasons and they do playoff off wins since one thousand nine hundred ninety six listened honestly. I do feel like it's what people are talking about. Joe Joe because there's been so much speculation about this really from mid season on. What do you hear well a couple things? WanNa talk to a cowboy service within the hour just trying to even confirm whether or not The Jones have returned from their reported vacation. And Aspen to see if this meeting meeting that was supposed to be the third Jason Garrett in Dallas Cowboys ownership and even taking place They would not confirm whether that was the case or not. But while to Kinda couple as to what I was was hearing last night when I was talking to a voice I thought it was interesting when they said to me that a couple of scenarios have been discussed around. Jason Garrett's it's tenure with the Dallas Cowboys. So that kind of stuck out to me and then I asked well wait a minute winner. Those discussions take place. Are we talking about before the season ended or after the season and then they didn't want to give that indication but I said well. Where is the decision leaning towards you know and then I thought it was interesting the cowboy said to me you know? I don't have a gut feeling about but this one way or the other so the reason why that to me stands out is because this was supposed to be definitive right. All the top going into the season was that Jason Garrett had to win more go further into the postseason not only did they not go further. They didn't even make it. And instead of being more clear it's actually more ambiguous. which could be intriguing or an indication indication of something else maybe happening or not happening or a long long long long long long goodbye along the long right? I mean I listen. I said this to add and we've talked about yesterday the longer it goes on. You have to believe there's at least a possibility. The guarantees on in some capacity. Now perhaps that's not the head coaches coaches robot regardless victor. I'll just ask you what the most important thing right now for Jerry Jones in this organization. I think is just clarity. I think he needs to provide clarity already. Not Just for himself before that entire teen for that head coaching position. If he's not if Jason Garrett isn't going to be in that role who is and clock is ticking because because other teams are interviewing head coaches and all of a sudden that pool is GonNa get smaller and smaller. My question is what are you seeing Jason Garrett that looks like you WanNa keep him on Staff Colette alone as the head coach or even in the front office he's been consistent consistently mediocre. So what part of his you know his head coaching or his leadership capabilities abilities or his talent seeking capabilities. What about what you see and Jason Garrett lead you to believe that you want him in your for an office or in your in those offices? This is making decisions on players. What about what he has done or has he accomplished? That leads you to believe that he'll be good at that capacity. Well my question. I think it's a fair question. What's interesting to me? Is that Jerry Jones. And we know he's loyal to Jason Garrity obviously feels connected to it and he's felt connected to a lot of folks over the years but never really stopped him from making the hard decision. He has moved dawn when he felt it was best rob for his organization so in some ways he must think maybe it's not best or I believe he would have already done it. We'll he even said that. Some of the coaching decisions that were made in this off season came through him and he had to make those choices and Jason Garrett not having the office coordinator position of calling the place but yet they still led the NFL and passing right and they were at the top of the list. When it came to offense and production time of possession is down yes so you pay your running back a lot of money to run the football but your time of possession down from where it was previously and that all comes down to running the football and kind of setting up your team team with offensive line that they have to controlling the tempo of the game I understand that is a great quarterback and he led the NFL? He did some great things this year. But when you can't establish the running game early with the guy that's one of your highest paid offensive players. You have some high priced offensive linemen. That is a tone setting running the football as a defensive as a player when you're going against an offensive line that's moving off the ball and they're really just affecting you mentally. I think that goes into toughness. You talk about running the football. That's all about toughness. How how tough is this football team there? Eight eight eight five hundred for many years now so I think they need a little bit more toughness and Accountability at the head coaching position. Now the friend at the head coaching not the good close friend. That's going to encourage everyone. I want somebody that's GonNa make everyone accountable and push people out of their comfort zone. Because does that sum grow as a team. I just WanNa say thank Jason. What he does well is work with Jerry Jones and the Group of Stars in Dallas? I think what we're wondering is has his message grown stale to get them beyond eight nate and get them beyond just three playoff appearances in ten years. It's valid point though because we've said time and time again not just. Any coach can work in that environment. It takes the right one but you got you got to win two. So we'll see cowboys haven't had a coach. This century make back to back playoff appearances. Speaking of the playoffs they kickoff in Houston on Saturday afternoon. The bills will look for their first road. Playoff win since ninety two against Texans and then later that night. It's the titans who will look take down the Patriots in Foxborough where New England is playing. Its first wildcard game in ten seasons and it is the first time since two thousand nine. That New England will play on wild card weekend again. The hosts former Patriot Mike and his surprising Tennessee. Titans powered by the League's leading rusher Derrick. Henry here is Mike Reese with more in Foxborough Foxborough Wendy Bill belichick arrived at this podium behind me a few hours ago and said we're closing on the biggest game of the year. He noted that the titans are very very explosive on offense and said the Patriots would need all the remaining time. They had to get themselves ready. One way they did that was different from the norm is practicing on the game field today as music from Roddy rich blared receiver. Julian Edelman noted the Mild New England temperatures for this time of of year around forty degrees and the practice began around twelve. I watched number twelve. Throw some warm up tosses with accuracy as he occasionally shook out his his right arm to get loose windy. And you heard Mike. The weather the weather is going to be all kinds of bad on on Saturday. Night and Fox win the titans have the football one of the most pivotal matchups will be Stefan Gilmore against a rookie What do you see when you look at those with Jay walking tell you what? Ag Round does not play like a rookie. He's physical at the point of attack right. We don't call them up. Nobody's rookies right after eight games. You're not a rookie anymore. But he's physical at the point of attack. He loves the to to get up on you as a receiver. Bahira found Gilmore does a good job but just undercutting looks like. He's beat on the shallow cross but he undercuts makes the play. Now here's Jay Brown right press coverage a couple of yards of physical at the point of attack and it's just all wheels from him he sees a single hardcover teasers. Nobody'll overtop to help. So he goes out there and makes a big play. This was found. Gilmore is good at preventing is the big play. Being physical is another pressman coverage Johnson Joseph. He opened the gate for. And that's what you don't want to do as a cornerback versus a guy with speed and the ability to make big players opened the gate and let them get right by a J brown understands how to make plays. He understands how to position his body. What's the found? Gilmore obviously understands how to stop the premier wide receiver. And that's by being physical. And that's being in your face and getting hands on so. Aj Brown as well as I often have to move him around things with him in the slot using things outside put him emotion so Stefan Gilmore just isn't sitting back pending pending his ears. Back and getting getting physical with him. At Atlanta's scrimmage during press coverage M- around gives you more to back up please in space as opposed to being from I think the interesting now for. Aj Brown is that you know when you're a rookie. There's less tape on you. And then when veteran cornerbacks Jonathan Joseph Gilmore get an opportunity to play. Okay maybe I got my hips open this time because I'm trying to gauge your speed. I didn't really have a feel for it the first of the second time around now C.. You come in so you fast asked you say we won. I tell you what New England plays exceptionally well at home but every year is different. I I will say I don't feel like the titans have the Patriots. We're good team. They have a great history. I don't feel like they're going in there. Scared I really don't I don't I don't know especially when he's going to have those guys prepare care enough new on. NFL live our eagles reporter. Tim McManus with a report from practice no sign of running back mild sanders as the Eagles Begin practiced today Lane Johnson and Zach. It's our here but off to the wayside start sanders by the way dealing with an ankle injury the NFC playoffs began on Sunday. The saints host of Likings. They'll be seeking revenge. enj For the Minneapolis. Miracle from two seasons ago and the seahawks visit the NFC east champion Eagles both teams playing wild card weekend for the second straight year. So I guess we must call this a postseason edition of cruise control. It's not just any old run of the mill regular season edition roll the marvel the Marble for which means the ultimate destination. Wherever you're driving is to get to Miami Okay so let's look at these four? NFC playoff teams. And you tell us where they end up they go to Miami. They exit early. Are we talking about the Eagles starring with. EMC going right to it. Just like I am going to go with the taxi cab because he'll be taken a taxi because they'll be out by the wild car around. I think they will lose to the Seattle seahawks here Rob Feel free to chime. And I think they'll we'll get to the division. That's where I think they will be. They beat the Seattle seahawks. I just don't see that I feel like they are being the toughest and the things that they've gone through with injury has made them all hardened team in the playoffs. It's GonNa be it's GonNa be fun to see them play Seattle who's dealing with. It's not having a running game is speaking. How the Seahawks I'll see you? All got them chugging along nicely but they make it to the division around the Philadelphia Eagles but they lose in the next round to the division. I think Russell Wilson is going to be our exit road exit row here but Russell Wilson is the key. Obviously we understand who he is what he president incident team. I think he's the most important the most important asset to this football team because he's the one west and make the big play after big play in order for that team to have overall success. That's next to Vikings. I got the Vikings here hasn't signed. I am going with Look I think they lose in the wild card as well. I think they're both from taking a cat because they look like cousins on this year but I just think that they don't have enough to make it to the next round or even to the suit on one and I know that it's been the one knock on kirk cousins that he hasn't been able to win that big game a win that pivotal game to get this team over the hump but I think that trend continues nonetheless frame auto makers in the Patriot or those pictures to say the saints. No if you haven't noticed I've only I haven't picked anybody when super yet because I believe in the New Orleans Saints Michael Thomas Alvin Kamara. Drew brees Amaral plan with a chip on their shoulder. Older look what happened to them. Last year I'd be type two if that happened to me last year I'd be playing with a chip on my shoulder to drew brees. I saw a video of him and just by yourself up doing hours before before. And he's he's against list Reggie Bush. I think he was only some more on the same day. Going the only and winning. I'll say winning. Obviously somebody else's gotTa take this exit. We won't do it today. 'cause look at the AFC next week. Somebody's GonNa shut down this road to meet the saints in the Super Bowl per her victory but I mean relative agreement but you disagree with the Eagles are going to be the the Seattle. That's all I think but then I also I agree with you that the saints are going over. I think the saints it's their year Seattle. Also seventy one on the road. It doesn't matter. Eagles got control. Thank you travel company. I coaching vacancy. has been filled. You're looking live and to Ron Rivera. Introductory press conference we. We are waiting the new head coach. Two o'clock eastern. And we'll take you there as soon as he is speaking in the redskins officially named Ron Rivera their new head coach yesterday. Washington Fire Jay Gruden on route. Two a three and thirteen season the Redskins have not won a playoff game since two thousand five. That was when Joe Gibbs was their head coach Washington looking for some of the stability ability that Rivera brought to Carolina. The Panthers never won a title. They did reach the playoffs. Four Times under coach Rivera including a super bowl trip in two thousand fifteen. The redskins last made the Super Bowl in nineteen ninety-one and in a matter of moments the redskins will introduce Ron Rivera as the new head coach. You can see see. They are getting ready now in the nation's capital and as we wait for coach Rivera. I'll ask you this. What do you want to hear this afternoon? I think from Ron Rivera. I I just want to hear why he was attracted active to this job. Several Head coaching vacancies out there. And and why he took this job and and presumably so quickly when there could be potential other openings out there even in Dallas as we wait for that one and then secondly I wanna hear his evaluation or just thoughts overall Dwayne Haskins in what he might be thinking with regards to the offensive coordinator position. Since we're thinking that he's going to interview the current Guy There Kevin O'CONNELL and and You know what he might be looking being out of the coach from nap position. If he doesn't go with the guy who's currently their jobs I think the the the maturation process of dwayne Hassans is important for this football team. And I think that's the number one issue for Ron Rivera. Moving forward is how do I get my quarterback if he feels doing Haskins is indeed his quarterback How do I get my Guy Ready? Ready available with the right mindset because we do understand doing hasn't silly young player. So how do I get them in the right mindset to be successful in this football league and I'm a little sour about this. I'm a huge huge Ron. Rivera Fan. I sat with them while I was out. During my tenure with the giants was over and I was going to different Teams and sitting down with their coaches. He was the one that struck me. The most is just is a straight shooter. Honest about what. He does with his with his teammates. Everybody loves them. Teammates loving other coaches love. Him and I think he's walking to the podium right now. We'll take Noon I happy Thanksgiving everybody. Today's the beginning of a great new year for the Redskins Organization and its fans I I'd like to thank Bill Callahan. Those here five years did a great job for us a great guy and we really appreciate him with the Redskins have needed is a cultural change. Someone that can bring a winning cultural to organization at starts and ends with our head coach when looking for that man. I looked for a class. Act That's how you describe coach Rivera. He was two time coach of the year. And for those of you. That don't understand. That's very very hard to do. You should google that Because it's impressive oppressive He was fifteen to one which is extremely hard to do Did my research spend a lot of time talking a lot. Allow People A lot of coaches and one thing that came across certain words and these words. We're integrity honesty. Knowledge Grit determination. It's all about winning. Ron Rivera knows how to win as a player player as a coach as a new head coach of the Redskins. One thing. That's very very important. We're GONNA have one voice and only one voice alone and that's the coaches like to welcome. Ron's wife Stephanie. We've gotten over the last few weeks and our new head coach of the Washington redskins coach Ron Rivera. Thank you you know with about thirty days ago that your team. This team got me unemployed. So just so you know. We're good now thank thank you. It's an honor serve as a coach in the NFL. It really truly is their only thirty. Two of us at anyone given time and these jobs are scarce this one the Washington the redskins. This one is special. This is one of the almost original teams started in nineteen thirty two. There's a Lotta history behind football team in order for us to get back to where we WANNA be. We've got a study that history embrace it history and prepared a repeat that history because if not we're doomed to repeat the most recent history. We're not gonNA do that guys. We really aren't everything we do is going to be about winning. Okay we'll do things the right way and that's the only way we're going to do them because if it doesn't help us we're not doing it man that's just as simple as it gets. So why did I choose the REDSKINS. Probably the question. I know a lot of you guys are wondering that right now with everything. That's out there. I can tell you right now. All this talk about the money I want the money I'd still be out there trying to pick a couple teams against each other. I took this job for one. Simple reason one simple reason because because Dan Snyder came to me with a very interesting perspective for weeks he's explored the reasons why some teams win and some teams. Don't he told me. The common. In fact that transitional success of teams like the Patriots the Seahawks and the chiefs. Some of the other ones was that decision to take it and make a coach centered approach each not an owner centered approach or a team president or GM. Coach centered approach. I told Mr Snider that I appreciate the fact that he believes the head coach matters but I would be honored but under one condition it had to be a player centered culture a player center culture. Something I truly do believe in my responsibility to get the most out of the players to work with them teach them mentor them. Five five to one by one. I most certainly. We'll do it. I've done in the past and I'll do it again. I'll do what I can't help. These young men become not just the players we want but the men in the community we need. These are the guys that can help change things not just on the football field but in this world I really do believe that I was fortunate enough to have that in Carolina and I hope I'm a work to have it here. In Washington. Things will begin with one. Simple principle off discipline. I come from a military family. We're disciplined it isn't taught it's live. It's expected from day they won. I have a philosophy every player every coach everyone who works for this organization. They'll know what day one you're not gonNA play for this team. You're not gonNA work visist team if you don't have the discipline to give us everything. You have no exceptions no excuses. That simple guys. We have to hold each other accountable. That's something that we most certainly will do. We'll expect most from each other whether I was in Chicago Carolina with our very best when the players knew. Do the coaches had their backs. And this is the thing I'm going to ask from the players. Do it the way we teach you do it the way we ask you do it that way. The success will be yours. Okay you do it that way accessible be yours if you don't excess is going to be yours but it's not gonNA be right. Why because if you fail it's on you do it our way do it the right way and if we fail it's on me okay? It'll be on me. The head coach at simple. I truly believe that I ask of. You doesn't work I'm to blame. I told Mr Snider. I wanted to assemble coaching staff. That was truly dedicated. The players and teachers and teachers. Okay I don't have to have a great big names would have to have is great teachers. We want to teach these guys how to play football to the best of their abilities to the best of our abilities and also it'd be good quality young men off the field. I want players tough. Hungry will do whatever it takes to play redskin football fall in January and hopefully into February. I told him I wanted to work. Hand in hand with the head of player personnel could spot potential and others that even. I didn't see another didn't see. That's going to be important because it has to be a collaboration no matter who it is no matter. WHO's working with us? It has to be a collaboration. This is not a one man. Show I don't have all the answers I'm going to rely on people around me. Relying the coaches and the personnel that. We've put in place to help us. Put this football team together. I told him I didn't want to go through a five year rebuilding process because quite honestly I don't I just don't have the patience from what I've read. Neither does he. So we understand that. I told him this team. This team has some raw talent. It really really truly does. It's got some quality veteran leadership that can help this team become contenders so at the end of the day guys. This is what the team is going to be made up so we made a good quality young football players and solid veteran leadership. Help US take this football team to the next level so you know what he said he said coach. I want to be the last job you ever had in the NFL. I want you to go from coaching the redskins and collecting social security. I'll turn fifty eight next week so I'm getting close but that sounded pretty good to me and so I say for the very first time. Okay from the very first. Where'd you guys? I guess there is no Jersey are supposed to be Jersey up here but you know what they say. Hail to the Redskins this role. Let's go so within like to take questions if there's any questions more than happy to if not appreciate you. I think we've got a couple of run. Jay Finley NBC sports Washington. We see Jack del Rio here. You talked about the coaching staff. You want teachers and leaders. How is it going filling out the rest of the staff and some of the folks here internally namely Kevin O'CONNELL what we're in the interview process assists right now you know? We've got several names that we've reached out to. We've gotten permission from some teams to bring some of these guys in and we'll be going through that process now again we're right in the middle of it Washington Washington Mill. We're in the beginning of it and it's GonNa take a little bit of time similarly with the Front Office Eric Schafer Doug Williams Santos cosmic those guys similar timeline. Well with those guys just about meeting them getting to know them as we start going forward as I said everything that we do is going to be about a collaborative effort There's there's no one pure authority on this other than the own but the key is is really we are going to collaborate. We're GONNA talk. We're GONNA work together. We're GONNA come to decisions that we believe best for this organization not best for an individual with best for the organization. Michael Phillips Richmond Times dispatch. Yeah I would imagine had some time to reflect on your time at Carolina. What are some of the things you've learned that you'll put into play now in this job? mm-hmm anything else. It's about the players if you've got players that are right players. That are where they need to be players doing the things that they can. Do you give yourself a chance to win. One things things that I really truly believe is that we as coaches gotta give these guys the opportunity and put them in position to have success. If we don't do that we're failing the players. It all falls back on us as I said earlier early to the guys you do it the way we ask them. We have success at your success if you fail. It's on me but please don't do it your own way Ron John. ESPN DAN brought this. It's up about the cult centered approach. You seem to appreciate that in the one voice. Why is that important to you and to an organization? Well I think because you don't want people going back and forth everybody's got when we step into the room or we step out of room. Everybody has to be on the same page okay. So like when when when when Jackson put the defense together we can have one coach. Tell somebody thirty something else as opposed to what Jack Wants. That's that's just the way it's going to be. You know we want. Everybody focused on what their job is. I got a little bit of saying these guys are GONNA get tired of hearing it but it's true. We need eleven guys doing one thing at a time. Not One guy trying to do all eleven. Do Job Man. We'll have success. I promise you that Ron Ryan and Walker with yeah. You mentioned the fact that this team has some young talent the some pieces of build around as you guys currently look at it. Jack said that they're going to run a four three. How do you guys currently on the roster? What does it? That's it for the personnel. And what are some positions of need for the four three for you all. I think it fits very well. I really look at the defense alliance. We've got guys that we can play the one in three Technica Ready We also believe we've got some guys that have played outside linebacker position that going to transition to playing the defensive instant spots for us specifically the six nine in the five so we feel Ruben about those guys. I like the linebacking. Core is a pretty solid group of guys. They run while they play physical. What we WANNA do is get these guys playing downhill through their gap? We're GONNA play the runaway away to the Quarterback A. Rod NBC Sports Washington. When you look at Dwayne Hassans he's going to be a big part of your success here in the next couple of years? What did you see from him out of year one? And what do you think he can become for this team. I think he'd become a franchise style quarterback I do. I think it's going to be a time. It's it's a process so I'm not gonNa say it's going to happen overnight overnight but I've been fortunate that several years ago we drafted a guy as the number one pick and we plan and we'll we're trying to do right now develop that plan for his development as we go forward. I also also think. A couple of good veteran quarterbacks obstacle gets an opportunity to play as well. We won't know until we get ready to open up in September so until then everything's just a process. It's a work in process. We can't get ahead of it. We've got a state of the plan and make sure preparing ourselves properly to win football games. Hey Ron over over here. Let's carpet washing post us a couple of things first of all why not take some time after After get fired you know. It's not say maybe a year or something to kind of recalibrate recalibrate and then secondly why jump right away into a job rather than maybe you feel everybody out over the next few weeks. Well first of all I had four weeks off. I'm ready to go back to work. Work really out you know. I got tired of getting up and having to do dishes so I'm serious. I think I'm kidding. I'm serious truth of the matter is is people. Ask Me when I first got let go. I told everybody I wanted to get back in the football and they asked me well. What is that you're going to be looking for and I simply said fit? Okay simply said The timeline is that right after. I think it was Friday of the week I was. Let go Mister MR started reached out to my age and so the two of them talked for a couple of days and then I got a phone call from Mr Schneider on Monday the following week and we started talking and we talked the first day for about forty minutes a second day for about twenty and then I went and I got a bunch of tape I've seen about six games. These guys played Including the one that That when I was in Carolina that they'd be distant and I had to take a real good look at this team and so I I've got write ups on on every player that played in those six games. And and that's why as part of the reason why I chose this team because I did like what I saw. I watched the last four on television as well and got an opportunity into. CD's guys fight to the in the Dallas game. We got a little bit out of hand near the end. That's understandable to a degree but for the most part the way they play the way they fought. Some some of these young guys didn't know any better they just knew they showed up and they played hard That was impressive to me. Then the other thing was in talking with Mr Snider. The thing that I got was was that we talked about his vision. Okay his vision his vision of getting back to the tradition of Washington redskins football and I was really impressed about that. We talked about the history of we talked about the things that have happened in the past that made this such a great franchise had fans that were rabid fans. I remember when I played. We used to go to the stadium early. And there'd be all those folks tailgating and letting us know how much they appreciate it us when we walked into the stadium and It was tough place to play. And and that's what we wanted to bring back. That's what he wants to bring back and I was really impressed by his vision and then he's here with his plan and he shared with me ideas that he he he had he had he had studied and understood Like I said the one where it's it's more of a coach centered approach in terms of decision making And Again I. I'm not omnipotent. I mean at the end of the day. Hey Guys I've got a group of men that I'm going to collaborate with all of our personnel. People are very vital to our success. Because things that they've done in the last three droughts That was one of the things. Also that Mr Snider asked me to study those three drafts. I'll look at those guys that are on that roster and I did that and I looked at the veteran guys that were there that were leading this team. That we're giving these these guys some hope some chances Being the mentors to these guys and showing them how things are supposed to be done and I really liked what I saw bay began to feel feel the fifth and the more we talked about the plan and the process that he was talking about the more excited. I got This didn't happen overnight. This decision was not made on the thirtieth eightieth okay. This decision was made over a period of time of getting together with him sitting down Spending probably probably thirty five hours in the freezer room is a place. That's just frigid. And and I think he did it on on purpose to make sure I stayed awake so But we went for thirty five. I mean really we. We seriously we went through every aspect of the organization. That's what I was really impressed with that. He was willing to sit there there and go through it piece by piece and we truly did. I spent a lot of time getting to know the organization getting understand the the the structure of what he he was looking for so to me again as I said it was it was it was hearing his vision understanding has plan and then learning the process of what he was trying to accomplish and I talked about my plan of what I wanted to do and it really seemed to fit his very well and so those you know the four weeks I was off. I was really only off for about five days and and then A couple other days where I got I snuck out to the golf course but that that was it other than that. I was really it. Just kind of looking at these guys trying to prepare going forward Russell Seven hundred and SL. What's it's one of the one or two of the things that maybe WanNa do differently or better? You come with a lot of accolades a lot of success in Carolina but everybody always wants to change something in their our lives. Is there anything that stands out to you that you learn about yourself when the Super Bowl I mean to you know one of the things that the only reason you become the head coach in this league in my opinion is to win. That's it. That's the bottom line. If you for any other reason you raw okay. And that's what I wanted to do and I really do. I'm not just saying because I met a press cups. I say because I truly believe leave that okay. I've been very fortunate. Footballs been a big part of my life. This is going to be my third or fourth year in the League. Okay so I've seen a lot of done a lot and the one thing that I've I've had. Yeah I've had the success to be on the Super Bowl Champs team. I would love to give these guys that opportunity so they know what it feels like what the experience is when you're standing on the podium. That's what we want to work towards. We want to work Torda going forward and I want her fans. We're going to work for. I understand they're disgruntled understand. They're upset and they deserve to be. We haven't won so we've got to start winning okay but I type title give us the opportunity to get behind us. We're going to give you give us. We're going to give you our best effort. That's what we're GONNA do as as a football team Ron Korean Copeland from the Washington. Post Post over here. Okay What was it about Jack that you wanted to that? Made him such a priority and they'll get him locked up here so quickly. Because I knew Jack is I know who he is as a employer. We competed against each other collegiately and professionally. I've got tremendous respect for who he's been he's been a very successful coach in this lake He's had opportunities in this league and he succeeded in this league thing about Jack I really truly do will appreciate having him on the staff to one of the things that I've I tell young coach. Is that the one thing you have to have on your staff to the guy that's been in their little saying. Don't draw me a map unless you've been there. Well Jack Spin there and Jack had this conversation earlier today and I tell the Jack if you see something wrong. UC something that we need to think about. Please tell me because that's the only way I'm GONNA know and I've said the same thing to the players that I've met. I've said to him a couple of times that you need to tell me if you see you've got to tell me because if you don't if you did it yourself on Rian Walker the athletic you talked about being a consummate winner. You were a part of that eagles team in the early two thousands that had those back to back championships and ships there hasn't been a consecutive. Sec Champion since those teams what will it take for Washington to achieve that success not only winning division but repeatedly doing so making conference championships. Certainly getting to Super Bowl. First of all we've got to make sure we get the right kind of players and then we as coach has got to make sure we teach them and coach them up to the best of our abilities. And then we've got to stay true to. We've got to stay. Stay true to to to to what I believe is a little bit of a philosophy and that is the best team as a great sense of family. The family has great culture and within that culture there's tremendous character her and that's what we've built. We've got a bill that we've got to build character. We've got bill culture. We've got bill team. We've got to build family if we can do that. we can win. I watched Andy do that. I was on Andy's original staff. My first five seasons with them okay. I was on three straight. NFC Championship Championship Games. And that was it's tremendous. It was a heck of a feeling to be involved in those kind of games. That's what we want to get to the only way we can do. It is if we truly do become family. Ron Ben Stanford with the Athletic Athletic. We've we've heard talk here about this coach. centric approach and also you want to collaborate with people but from the perspective of personnel the draft. Where does it come? What can you say about having final? Say where does your The level of power and such go into those decisions the biggest thing. That's going to happen and I'll say it again. It's we're going to collaborate elaborate. We're going to get together as a group and we'll discuss if we have to continue to discuss things. It goes a little bit longer than we'll ask Mr Steiger to help okay. But for the most part he's given us the opportunity to be a group of work together to collaborate to do one thing that's on the same page pick the right kind of players and then put him in position of success at Paris from the Washington Washington Times right. You mentioned Duane in that process but what are some of the next steps but you think he has to take well. I think first of all he's going to have to step up and become a later. I mean the all the great ones have become leaders and they become leaders. Whether they're they're rookies. Okay are there ten twelve year vets. But you've got to step up. You GotTa be where you need to be. You've got to do the things you're supposed to do and it's all going to stop. Start with your your off season. How do you prepare yourself? How do you get yourself ready? I think it's probably one of the biggest things that we've got to do And not just with him but everyone of our players have got to understand. There's an opportunity to lead. You know I'm GonNa do something where I tried to create opportunities for every player to step up and be the lead at one time. He doesn't have to be you know one of the greatest players to play running back okay. He's got to be a guy that's willing to step in front of his teammates and tell. Hey let's go man. Let's run David goes with the athletic Washington argue. There have been other coaches who have stood at that podium who we thought had the coach centric approach. Marty Schottenheimer remember was there. Joe Gibbs was there Mike Shanahan was. They're all great coaches and none of them really worked out the way we all thought including I'm sure so what is what is it that you have been told that makes you feel comfortable knowing that you'll be allowed to see this through to the conclusion you why well nobody really knows. But I'll tell you this I believe in me and I'll bet on me we'll see what happens That's all I can tell you but I will give you one thing that is. I'm GonNa work on a work very hard art. Do the things that I believe. Stay true to WHO I am. That was head coach. Ron Rivera the newest head coach of the Washington Redskins introduced officially a lot of interesting things. Not The least of which was happy Thanksgiving from Dan Snyder but I think he just you know what they've been busy. Lives Live New Year's Eve so bottom line is this one of the first things That came out of this and I think it was from both Daniel Snyder. Enron varies there was going to be one voice there had to be. It had to filter through the head coach. Now it's interesting especially with the redskins because they don't have a GM. Obviously with Bruce Allin having gone you know having parted ways with Bruce Allin so it does make you think. Joe Joe that Ron rare will have a whole lot of say in in the way this direction the direction in which is organization runs. You know first of all just watching Ron Rivera. Stand behind that podium. You can't help but like not notice the presence that he has their instantly and how that kind of just washes over the organization from day. One and I kind of gives you an illumination as to why he was brought there in the first place. And then you talk about the one voice and how he wanted to explain why he came there because he could have leveraged other teams against one another and gone for more money and to hear that from Daniel Snyder particularly having this historical experience with the with the Redskins in the past. And how it's gone in the past to hear that from dancing I know was definitely very very important and then also for him to say that It was very important for him to say to Daniel Snyder that he wants to have a players rich environment that that's really important or into him to in terms of making everyone feel included in how much he also wants them to feel value in a part of the fabric of what they're trying to do henceforth and making this a better a place to succeed beyond what they've already a conscience you know is important and I thought it was interesting. controver said look if you do it my way and it goes well. The credit is yours. If you do it my way and it doesn't. It's on me so already a tone. This is about the players for the players and an environment that we haven't seen in Washington. It's certainly didn't have the reputation for that with the rich guy. That's exactly really what he's doing. When he's setting the tone I I love when he says I WanNa Levin players doing one job not one guy not one player doing trying to eleven. That's the epitome of what he brings to the table able. He wants his teams to be disciplined. He wants his team to go into every game every season with a plan. And he's GonNa and we've seen what he's done with Cam. Newton writer his maturation process throughout all his time and Carolina. I think he's looking at that. Same type of blueprint for doing haskins making sure that he's in a position to win in a position to make plays without feeling unlike the pressure of the weight of the world is on his back. And I think that's what Ron Rivera does. Best is set the tone for his players and that disciplinary talks about Israel and that's going to carry over Through the entire team once he once he gets in that facility and starts to talk the players and get his hands on guys and I love what he talked about the history thing about the redskins they were the team before these new teams came to be. They were the team. It was the Redskins and now you look at the last ten twenty years. They've Kinda just become another other team. That hasn't really had any success so I think that he's going to take that history and he just. He said that he wants to show the players that this was the history here and we need to bring that back. We need to have that winning culture that winning history back now and I am excited to see what you can do when they ashtrays in the building to Doug Williams is there her beat the Broncos ten back so there there's there's some remnants of it right right around the corner days Offi say. This man really wants to coach. He took five five days up any rights Brown interview. Mike McCarthy he by the way we'll meet with the giants tomorrow. The giants are interviewing cowboys. Defensive backs goes Christmas card and the panthers talking to Chief Offensive Coordinator Eric the enemy. It is time now for a cup of Joe and this timing here. There's always planted talk about especially with these coaching jobs. Talk about the browns. Because you've got Mike McCarthy. They've also requested permission to talk to Josh mcdaniels. What do you hear? Well the interview with Mike McCarthy scheduled for today and I talked to a brown source last night and I was asking them. Hey listen you know. What is zero impression of Mike McCarthy as a head coaching candidate and one of the things that they told me that they do not feel like football has passed Mike McCarthy by although he was out of football last year and I said Oh you know what about you know all the talk that the packers offense regress with him? The last two seasons in the source said quote. Aaron did a lot of what he wanted to do. So I don't necessarily put that all McCarthy and the other thing he says that felt like Mike McCarthy is really good at load management because one of the interesting things that came out last night and my conversations. Some of these browns players were feeling like Pretty Kitchens Kitchens worked hard and training camp in terms of padded practices in terms of tackling. They felt like that bled over into their week. One loss against the Titan. So they feel like Mike McCarthy's he's a little bit better than that and then when it with regards to that and then when it comes to Josh mcdaniels a lot of excitement. Obviously he's a grew when it comes the offense. They got texoma player. That said I'm saying no he call call with that offense. That offense is crazy. Obviously the sixth super bowl speak for themselves and the instant credibility. That Josh mcdaniels would brain from his tenure on the Patriots and working with Tom Brady. Now Cleveland. One is also without a GM because they let John Dorsey go. Jimmy has them. The browns owner spoke a while ago and he did address a what we can expect from this hiring process. I do think sets us up Well too I however a head coach and then have the head coach be involved in the hiring of the GM. I want to stress. It will not solely be the head. Coach's decision will be collaborative process involving ownership and several other members of top management. Uh if you will as we hire the GM interesting to they're gonNA hire head coach first and then that head coach will have to sign off on the GM. I it seems like that's what we got in Washington they hired Ron Rivera. They too will need a GM so sort of an interesting trend. I think you're well. I think speaks to the experience that they're alluding to that. They want to bring into the building in comparison into what they had as far as Freddie kittens resume when he got that. So that's letting you know that and typically a head coach of that stature wants to know who the GM is going to be in that they you can work with that person as well in terms of having some type of consensus on the players that they need to afford to have greater success is we do know whatever it is they have to be on the same page or it's certainly doesn't work on Sunday. The the Vikings will head to New Orleans they will face the saints running back. Dalvin Cook looking to be back for the first time in two and a half weeks A. What's his status? Well first of all I talked to a Viking source last night it and I actually wanted to start off with. What did you guys learn from the saints? Loss against the Falcons because that was one of their worst loss this season with breathing they he said when we went back and looked at that. We don't feel like the Falcons did anything really different from what they typically do. It's just that they were more physical and more explosive. In terms of not allowing explosive plays is rather so. That's what we notice with that. And then when I asked okay well you guys also lost against the saints last year thirty to twenty. Is there anything that you want to do. Defensively that's different. And they said well breeze only only had one hundred twenty passing yards that game and I said but they still put thirty points on the board and they said but if you look at the turnovers they had authencity with. PJ pick six. And then also Adam Phelan in having a a fumble loss right. When they're about to four? They feel like that was really more of the difference and then when it comes to doubt and cook as you were mentioning so what do you feel like. He's been the impact of his absence. Since the last two games and clearly just beyond the fact that they're rushing twenty plus Russ yards per game. Less per game was what I'm trying to say. Thank you They also know that we got. They also noticed that defensively that they're coming back on the field a lot quicker. The time of possession went down seven plus minutes with Dow Cook a game out for the last two games so they were feeling it in terms of that way and lastly I said. Do you feel like Kirk. Cousins can rise to the moment and then can really live up to this Playoff game and stuff principle is just one player Kirk cousins. It doesn't block tackle or cover anybody so we gotta do it together and I said as a coaching staff. Are you feeling more pressure to get back to the NFC championship game. And they said no right now. We are concentrating on trying trying to get this win when we got the Texans have activated. Jj Watt as. We expected off the I.. R. This week they're getting ready for the bills. What's mutant Houston well? I talked to Texas cornerback. Jonathan Jonathan Joseph about an hour ago just to try to get a feel for how they're feeling going into this game against the bills and one of the things I said was what was the impact of. Jj Watt being out. and He. It said guys like Whitney Mercilus Jacob. Martin had to do double duty. The feels like diva reader definitely stepped up even more it was a physical mental tax without. Jj Jay walk through looking forward to the boost that he brings. I also asked. What do you feel like you lost Or learn rather from the loss against the Ravens When they went there forty one seven? Everyone one saw that and he said look Dishonor Watson was not happy about that he knows that his career is forever linked with the Lamar Jackson as far as people making that contrast in comparison so he took up from that game going to everybody else and saying listen. We can't take the playoffs for granted. And we gotta rise up every level and and he feels like he saw that and lastly I said well. What is your impression of Josh Allen? Played them last year. They were still able to beat him. Although Josh Allen didn't play the entire game I think Nathan Peterman came in in the third quarter. He says he remembers. What Jalen Ramsey said about the Josh Allen when he was a rookie and how he was impressed even after Jalen Ramsey made some controversial comments about but he said what they're noticing? When you're looking at the film it's how many more design runs Josh? Allen is is having in the red zone not just with his scrambling but with the lead blocker. And that's something that they're going to be looking out for when they play The bills on Saturday all right and they get a boost and bill. O'Brien did say so that we can expect. Jj Watt to be out there quite a bit Yes for his work. Our Colts Nation reporter. Mike Wells tweeting some notable quotes from coats. GM Chris Chris Ballard regarding the future of the quarterback position and ND. Here we go. He said Andrew Luck is retired. We need to accept that and move forward. He he went on to say the jury is still out. He's talking about his current quarterback to Kobe debt. Right now yes to Kobe. Is Our starting quarterback for week. One of the twenty twenty the season. Listen the operative words right there right now. It's not always the case but a lot of their time when you hear right now. It means we're open and we're looking victor under. Yeah I think there are definitely open and looking and just seeing. Obviously how Jacoby started the season I think he did. Great for seven games. He beat teams like Tennessee. Kansas City he had a great first seven games But then at the end of the season things change and he kind of kind of wavered a little bit. You didn't see that same conviction in his throes. You didn't see that same kind of attention to detail throwing the ball down the field some turnovers in between there so I think when they're looking at it it's a constant evaluation everybody everybody knows in the NFL at every position is a constant evaluation of what you've done. And what have you done for me lately and and I just don't think that the colts are you're not necessarily sold on what they've seen from Jacoby Brusett from the beginning of the season all the way throughout the end of the season. Although he's been there for some time he understands the culture obviously has a great the report with all the players. But I just don't think from natural quarterback position they've seen enough to really make Jacoby their franchise guy. Yeah and if if Andrew lucked decided. Hey I WANNA come back next year. Here's the clipboard. Doors doors open south to say I'm feeling pretty good. Now that I've had a year of rest and I think he would be the week. One starter and You know I bet you that they would be hoping for that at this point like you said early in the season. Look I I. I had said that the colts were the second best team they see around week seven and then a started to just slide quickly downhill. So maybe you're seeing other teams game plan dealt with ty having an injury For some of the season so he lost some key pieces look. It's not easy when you're a first year starter in the NFL. He had some great When luck was injured he had some great time to understand and learn how to adapt to the game but now how he was the guy he was the guy he had the keys and the second half of the season? It didn't look good for him. Just think is an interesting comment saying that the jury still out. Well I mean how many GM's our coaches would we hear saying that E- even some of the younger quarterbacks that are still out there whether it be Calamari Daniel Jones. Or what have you whether we know that adequacy a coach or a general manager still conducting an evaluation of a player. It's still another thing for it to be said publicly. And I just think back to a comment that I just read about the players what they think about Pete Carroll how he keeps some of that stuff indoors and just don't know eighteen touchdowns six interceptions with all the transition. I still think is pretty good. It's funny because he's been there it's not like he's he's new to the jury's out I don't like that either because he never reading in depth this season Prescott the other thing is that sort of close the door for now and you leave everybody go. What what and that's certainly not gonNA help confidence anymore right to what end better over to said we're evaluating positions at this time in celebration of the NFL's one hundred season we look back at this date in NFL? History January second nineteen eighty two. The chargers beat the dolphins forty one to thirty eight in the epic in Miami. San Diego raced out to a twenty four zip lead but that was cut the seven points just before the half when the hook and ladder played a Tony Nathan sent the Orange Bowl into a frenzy. The game of eventually went to overtime tied at thirty eight and the chargers won it on a twenty nine on yard field goal by Ralph preneurs the iconic image from the game tight end Kellen winslow who had one hundred sixty six yards being helped off the field is and Saturday's. AFC Wildcard game. It will be the Patriots host the Tennessee Titans. Tom Brady had an even even second half of the season which saw the patriots finished poor poor. He spoke about the match up against Tennessee earlier today. Just pre pretty folks on what I need to do and and You know it's this week. Felt pretty much like every other week for twenty years so just you know trying to folks on what I need to do and his team that gives you a lot of challenges and You know just how about and try to play really well and they're going to force us to You know really be tied together. We're not sure how great good when we have been tied together. It looks yeah listen he is. It's so interesting to hear him. Say for the last twenty years. Let me just sort of mind boggling but you look at the bottom there and you see that twenty and three record and that is not in no small way. Why Patriots your favorite going into the weekend? Twenty three twenty three incredible really well. No I mean Tom. The body worked at he said over the the last twenty years. It's a lot of hard work dedication. I mean I. I don't know anyone else that puts more time and Tom and and he's ultimate professional. So we'll see what happens. I know it's going to be a tough match up up. Israel's very smart and you understand exactly what bills telling those guys. I love teams. That don't have that layover between one game to the next and according to what. He's bold prediction addiction. That might be his last game patriot. All the bowl game the Birmingham Bowl Boston college coming up in Cincinnati. Enjoy the game. Everybody will see you tomorrow.

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Schedule Release Takes/ You're the GM

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Schedule Release Takes/ You're the GM

"Around with the NFL podcast. By Erica to the match party. Welcome to another edition of the around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan hands. This and I enjoyed it fell. Heroes, marxists ler press, Westlink collie and Greg Rosenthal. What is girls? Hey. First of all, you are invited to the bachelor party as an afterthought we are leaving immediately after today's show heading down to San Diego for west as big going away party, and it is a going away party and a lot of ways away, and you are invited you were formerly invited less than twenty four hours ago. Exactly. So don't you weren't invited? Erica was invited. You were invited before the show just moments. Also, I mean, the car is not the automobile is not left it. You could literally. Room. I've planned one of those people. Yeah. You don't get asked by a certain time. You're like, even if you don't have plans, I plan even. Let's be real tempo. See is not hang spending her weekend hanging out with a bunch of forty year old dads and adapt. Oh, you guys are the point. He doesn't she doesn't speak your own age. Also, not a father, you should feel. You know, a compliment that we just kind of consider you one of the guys like you didn't until. But you can't ask. No, you can't say enough you at all, you know, get get invited. And then say, I'm busy just what are we doing because coughing? Talking about it for weeks. And I was like okay kinda low key a little upset that I didn't get the invite. And then west was like you come can. I throw it a very relevant point. Yeah. Nobody was invited power all the four of you going talked about again, you heard us talking about it. Couldn't really doesn't have a car. We're just giving them a right west west these picky person about inviting anyone to anything everybody's in the west as Erica, I will send you guys a gift just. The entire weekend together as as is in west is simply going to San Diego sober going. With him a podcast listener once flew down from Vancouver to a party. I was having in California, and he was allowed to come. Because invites don't really matter. I mean, I wouldn't I don't know if I would encourage that, you know, he also came back once and he didn't know he was in your house. He was fine. Kitchen. No issue. Colleen. Yes. Thank you for joining us. Thanks for having me back. Very good L. Please have your big show today. So yes, we're leaving immediately after the show down to San Diego. Big don't don't look for us, by the way. If you're listening to this. I'm just being honest like it is not a time for we've been honest audience about this love them love you, if you're let's go up to Wes, Wes, I love all comers everybody. Let's talk to each other. But give it to Wes, maybe Greg. Greg wants to Greg. Definitely does. I just like the image of Beatle mania like we get to the gates of. Human beings, maybe one or two tops. Tech yourself. All right coming up tonight. Yes. It's the return of your the GM later today. So we're excited to do some role playing also wanna put it out there next week is draft week. Of course, we've got a lot coming up. So. On monday. We'll do go. Get my lunch draft props. Also spice rack makes his hotly anticipated return. And then I say this. I'm really excited about this one announcement right here. It is the first annual Mark sess ler mock draft special, so we'll do special Wednesday show on the eve of the NFL draft and Marc will reveal his top thirty two. Pinch yourself because it's happening. I mean, my Tuesday, which was wide open. Now includes a lot of draft research. I will be say no, we need you to during this in San Diego we want. We want you way, we're going to get you. This is one point out. That's kind of like always been a whole on the show. It's like okay for guys. It's an NFL podcast. But we're all dolts when it become when it comes to the NFL draft finally Marcus stepped up in filled that role he's searching for months for the world needed. Another mock draft notes, this is yeah. When they are. Aided. They wouldn't this'll be the mock draft. Okay. That's what can I add item to the agenda? Yes. Ricky you missed perhaps the most dominant performance in the shield softball history list. It really it. Really what happened? Victory in five innings. Mercy rule. It could been about thirty two nothing after three. I think we were holding people on the basis. I mean, it was a mercy is the word home run. Both. West is discovered launch angle the sheer, and maybe some PD's, but he's driving the ball up the gaps like I've never seen before. And I applaud this new direction. I'm more flexible. Taylor before you get up every time. What's the name of the team that you vanquished? Maybe we should bleep it out because it was a massacre. It was like a major homicide. Yeah. Like a like eleven people were killed in this game. We played who shot about the after. Let me finish up the schedule then Thursday after the mock special mock draft the round one recap on Thursday night. And then Saturday we recap the whole draft. So that's coming up next week big week for the show. Let's get into the news ACM. We gotta deal. Cohorts must see on more. They your go to bed. I don't even go to sleep. In the morning. No. Species was Russ. Is it Colleen told me this? I wouldn't think you guys are missing the subtext. What they just I know. Why are they so? What is there? Why are they just of letting us know that they are sexually active like, they're just happens. All the time. They are two very beautiful people. But like I don't need to be in bed with you guys to find out the news that Russell Wilson got the extension. It really bothers me. I'm like, all right. This is good. Great good for you, guys. Look at this. You got a lot of money. You got a hot wife what else? I go to. Play it again. We gotta deal. Go home. Go hogs almost see on more. Your go to bid we can go to sleep. Seon like even their voices that. Voice is making. That's like we don't need it the gravelly bedroom. This has been a trend. Russell Wilson's been changing. His voice Bomani Jones has been talking about it for a little while since the Pro Bowl like he has been chained. He's kind of this old saying he's code switching back to. I don't know why he talks about which is the real Russell. But he's definitely kind of leaning into this leg, lower voice numbers. Barry white register when he sung at you. Yes. The habit booth. Have you guys ever done that changed your voice for something? Not to bury white. I mean. No, not at all. We're gonna later. We're gonna later in the show little you're the GM. Modulating? Well, that's really segment. So all right anyway, Russell Wilson. The news agreed to a four year one hundred and forty million dollar deal with the Seahawks. The two sides Wilson set that deadline April fifteenth, and guess what Seahawks complied? It's a new world order where the players are in control and the settle on a four year one hundred and forty million dollar deal. One hundred seven million guaranteed includes a no trade clause that from rap sheet at thirty five million per year. The extension would make Wilson the highest paid player in the NFL. Surpassing Aaron Rodgers deal with the Packers. Colleen Wilson we had heard in the the ramp up to this that maybe he wanted some type of. Like share and chain. Yeah. Type contract where it was connected to the salary cap, which of course, inflates every year, none of that happened. But at the end of the day, he still gets paid like a g and he's worth every penny. Ultimately, I was actually kind of surprised when I saw that it came down team actually met the deadline that he had in place like that. I feel like a lot of times that doesn't happen. And then it kind of creates a situation. And then obviously, Russell Wilson wouldn't have talked about it because that was his whole thing. But I I mean, it's kind of nice that they met him with that. And look now they can put that issued a bed. It's smart. The more. Take the agent who doesn't have any other NFL clients park there at their facility for five days. I mean, he was there five days before they were visiting him during a winnebago or something. No, he was just like in an office, and they would like come down. And we'll negotiate every once in a while or trade offers, you know, what's that got to me is like you said that the players are kind of in control now. And then afterwards, they've really pushed it almost transparently the this no trade clause being the most important thing to them it almost feels a little like not a PR move. But it's been really pushed hard by Russell Wilson, the agent to kind of counteract the what was going on before any thought that he was maybe trying to get out of town, which I don't think they were too comfortable with sort of comes down to thirty years old silks are seventy five thirty six and one in the regular season. Six of seven years. They've made the playoffs. They won a Super Bowl should've won. Another one though also Wilson played a role in that not happening is twenty. Touchdown passes season. Second all time of the past rating north of one hundred these are the guys you do not let get away so any of the speculation west that maybe they'll trade him. Maybe they wanna go cheaper. Because that's how they built the previous Seahawks powerhouse stop. It. You have a potential hall of Famer in your building. You don't let them get out. Yeah. I think football Twitter has taken this new tack where they decide that teams can't win Super Bowls. If they pay their quarterback just because it has just because Jillian caught a circus catch preventing Matt Ryan from winning the Super Bowl as one of the highest payed quarterbacks in the league. I don't buy into that for a bit. Of course, the degree of difficulty is harder. When your quarterback is making eighteen to nineteen percent of the cap, but your degree difficulty is way harder. When you don't have a quarterback making that much and you have a bad quarterback. I think both sides clearly overtly wanted this to happen. And I love any deal that removes from our life not just now in this off season into next season. But all of next off season and the one even potentially after where you have. Potential drama of a trade to the giants. All this other nonsense all of that is cleared away. All those story lines all those potentially written articles all those debates all those false NFL network. It's none of them exist and sure all been removed from our life in these sort of deals are trend to now like for the quarterback Kirk cousins helped it that Russell Wilson. If he follows the track record of some of the best quarterbacks in the league will get paid another big contract when he might be the highest paid player in the league at three different points in his career now bed for baseball agents. Let's move on. Josh rosen. His. Career with cardinals. Obviously in doubt. He's been quiet, although he has been taking part in voluntary workouts in Arizona. He spoke to TV. This week and had this to say about his situation. I think when people talk about like, you can't listen to criticism or don't ever read articles. You have to be aware of what's going on to a certain extent. Like, I definitely understand the situation. I mean, it's annoying. But like, it is what it is football's a business, and I definitely respect the higher ups and their decisions the guys in a very tough spot, obviously. And for what it's worth, Greg. And I know you were outta town for parts of this week. But I'm sure you are aware of what's going on the Twitter verse. Daniel Jeremiah went from being ninety percent certain that Kyle Murray was going to be the first over all pick on Monday to sixty five percent or sixty percent on Tuesday. And then yesterday Wednesday back to eighty five percents. Just so you know, also based off of the Redskins visit. So he went from ninety percent confidence down to six percent on Monday because of the scheduled visit that Kyle had to the Redskins. And then when Cuyler cancelled the visit to the Reddin DJ's confidence. Shut up I contact. So that yeah. No problem DJ said if don't believe anything you hear the next couple of weeks that was the thing you know, week ago. So I'm going to include DJ's percentage, flip flopping, and that was that on your program here on film that we're the only little I remember to the draft. Check it out six PM eastern Monday through Friday. Nice really unfreeze. We'll see we'll get traded. This could be could happen soon. Cannot happen at all that that stinks for him though, too. I mean, you you would think when a team gives up that much draft capital to move up and draft a quarterback. He's there he thinks he's going to be the guy. And then all of a sudden everything changes new head coach and obviously cliff Kingsbury connections to Kyle Murray. It stinks to be Josh Rosen's position because he thinks he's thought this whole time that he was the man. And now all of a sudden he could go anywhere good buck for site TV. They've got you know, this little documentary series planned or whatever it is with Josh Rosen. That's where this came from. So now people are going to tune in a little more news at that media. Watch it on Wednesday the NFL released its two thousand nineteen regular season schedule, so many takeaways, and I know the heroes were busy on the website. I did right up on the top revenge games. Greg. You did something on the hardest schedules Ma. Mark you to something on the easiest schedule. Most forgiving is how titled it giving west is ali-ba pari know that not to go near you when it comes to the schedule. So you didn't write anything or did you write something? Apparently, that's the case, and I feel guilty about you could stop that. Stop that. You can stop that sentence. After knows not to get near you. They haven't spoken in months. So let's just go quickly through some of the notable things. Yes. The Thursday night. Kickoff is Packers at bears this as one hundred aniversary season. These are two the oldest franchises. So there it is. So instead the patriots, although they're defending champions will still instead play the week one Sunday night game against the Steelers great football game. Let's see what else is out there. Brown's jets on Monday night and week two. I'll be fun. That is throwback to the first ever Monday night football game back in September, nineteen seventy. We have London games or the London games boys to we know. Well, there are plenty of them. And I will begin to look out, and I'll tell you thanks giving bears at Lyons the early game bills at Cowboys interesting. The four thirty game eastern and that saints at falcons and NFC rivalry renewed. For the late game on thanksgiving. Josh Allen, their only real they don't have a primetime game. They're literally the only team the bills that don't have a prime Email year. But thanksgiving's a better spa a bigger spot. That's an interesting one to think about because that is the biggest day of football. It's kind of underrated like bears lions last year. I think was the highest rated football game of the entire season. Which is almost a shame because it was like chase Daniel and like seventeen to fourteen gets part of the fabric of our country. Having even if it's on in the background on Thanksgiving Day. It will be playing. Now, we throw it to Mark who's been doing research over there. Now yet, it's very easy. Just type London games NFL found them. Here we go Henry's Henry's Twitter feed would have it. Well, here we go. So it is there are four London games. The bears at raiders which is Sunday. Tober six in Tottenham's, Briggs. Home home stadium, the one he loves believe, it's Tottenham Tottenham. Dada enters. Well, no, you're right Panthers. Spares the following week bucks are Bengals Rams later knocked Tober. And then the Texans and the Jaguars and this time they're hoping to make this actually happen in Mexico City the chiefs I the chargers a Monday night game. Of course, the game that got axed last year and moved back to LA because of field concerns and disgraced Mark predict areo. Well enough with kind of strike. Not since a bus and Panthers or in London too. And they're scheduled kind of stinks for bucks fans because the last they they start with the forty Niners at home than the Panthers on the road and the giant Thursday night game the the first and only primetime game for Kim new. But then after September twenty second they don't have a home game again until November tenth right? And that's the same thing with the raiders where they're on the road for seven weeks, straight and the bucks. One isn't just like you're on the road. They're on the road against the Rams and the saints and then London like the two best teams from the NFC year ago. And then you come back for a couple of other tough home games in Tennessee and Seattle like, that's that's brutal. The eagles got screwed too. They're the only team in the league that has three straight road games. Yeah. But come on, sir. They're in the NFC. Yeah. Come on. You gotta forty in your in your case the year the five year period just playing with right now a house that's still doesn't work at this point. Doesn't just reset. Let's move on. Good schedule stuff. Yes. Check out NFL dot com. I think they're playing up all those articles and west maybe it's time to sit down with leeann just have a mono mono chat about where relationships at. Apparently. I didn't know it was banned. Maybe I should. And we talked about this today on NFL network, Greg, and we will talk about more things on Friday. In fact, a great comebacks marks. And I know comebacks or something very important to you. Cut back. Marks about this. Come back. Wrote this. With catchy. Come back with bar. Comeback. That was good. All right. Let's move on Tom Coughlin. The Jaguars executive vice president said Thursday that players absent from the beginning of phase one of offseason workouts, quote were close to one hundred percent attendance. And quite frankly, all of our players should be here. I mean, he's still doing this stuff. The old military, man. Tom coughing west, you know, with the with the collective bargaining agreement coming up. Are we gonna do away with farce of voluntary? If you have guys going on record saying, I'd I expect you hear suck only involuntary I agree with that in principle in theory. But the one exception I would make is Jalen Ramsey and Leonard fournette for the Jacksonville Jaguars. They had so many issues last year with commitment with the clubhouse with teamwork with chemistry and Jalen Ramsey. I don't know what he's doing with his career. But I don't know what's going on with great football for the most part not last year played. Well, I mean, he was an all pro defensive player of the year type candidate the year before last year. He was average. Well, there's no question that Leonard fournette deserves to be in that spotlight. I just find that. There's no other team. I can really think of around the NFL where there is a non coach non GM consistently issuing these demand. Here is I mean like he is. He is what Mike Tannenbaum was in Miami. Or the more more with like a microphone, but he's in charge. Everyone knows. I would say then I would say eliminate the ruse and remove this GM in waiting or be the coach the same in what way remove him from the organization false achie- and like either like, Jim he's he want. He's in a role. You're the one to be all these other. Come on Coughlin. Getting your lean. He's definitely isn't buying into sort of the Bella check or parcels idea that there's one voice in the organization because coffin wants to be one of the void is don't. For your coach. Then obviously the coach out to answer for two. It's like are you on the same page? Doug Marrone, say that is Coughlan Merlin's, boss yell. Yeah. Sure. But he can say whatever it just it feels messy to me. But maybe it's just like conditioning at this point just lifting weights. Aken I feel like it's not that big of a deal because they can work out with their own personal trainers. And then if they show up out of shape than yeah. That's a problem which which with for not has been right, but yeah. Coughlin's gonna gonna not gonna coffee they're gonna Coughlan Tom Brady is not only not like the workouts? But doesn't go to the there are plenty of. But it used to be like like a player didn't have access to proper conditioning techniques back in the eighties. If you weren't in the great that is absolutely the opposite. Now like going. There is just simply check the box. I'm enthusiastic type thing is used in the offseason used to smoke a pack of cigarettes a day and work at the toll booth to make ends meet now now there. The toll athletes there year round athletes, but my issue with this is that any team hopes to be a contender at one. It's best player. It's best players team leaders to step up and be that guy. Jalen Ramsey has not been that guy. He's been the opposite. I guy Bhagwat I hear you. I just don't know. Because I I don't know. Maybe you're right. I just don't know if it makes any difference in terms of your leadership team. Whether you're at weightlifting in April that's fair, you know, those toll booth jobs pay pretty good. Yeah. I almost did it. Government employees. I would've mentioned. Yeah. That's a job because you're getting a lot of easy pass game in. That's the highest suicide rate in jobs. No, that's air, traffic, control, dentist. Everyone dentis. I've heard that Rayleigh also control traffic control air, traffic, control, Mark and get Google doing doing financially. Well, typically, I don't know. What's the? But you know, I think it's a it's the same thing every day. And then be it's so as job it's this job is the newest lists of journalists on its confronting a group of people every day who don't like being with you that don't like it you show you're making their lives, unpleasant. Moving on little let's take a quick spin over to the throne of ease. The patriots. Tweeted out of video Wednesday, rob gronkowski. The retired tight end is seen showcasing his best batting stance with the Lombardi trophy during the Red Sox opening day last week and he squares up for bunt in the video. And then he it's a ball a pitch from Julian Edmund, and he dented the Lombardi trophy. What a rescue. Hey, that's the best contact the Red Sox federal year. You put them in the old. I am enjoying this Red Sox start. I have to say. The two I some distressing news when you're ready. I looked at a CNN report. So we cannot do it came from CNN you can trust like the number two whole for the worst rate for people often themselves is arts, design, entertainment, sports, and media jobs. Let no. Construction workers. I don't see dentists anywhere on this list, chicks out. So. Urban legends. Low pay long hours not much time off and people don't like you. I mean arts design, entertainment, sports and media is also like a massive category of individuals, many of them failing at I have never met a happy designer you're right ever the very disgruntled so gronk dented the trophy. And I don't know I refuse to watch the video or read any further on this. But if on the patriots, and you have six of them leave the den because it's like, oh hell remember, he was so crazy. Don't take the debt doubt is on. I'm saying leave the debt they're not going to take the out for now. They're gonna leave it just, you know, and then they might fix it in the future who litter wild guy. We love them. Who's that? Jason mccourty Jason mccourty. No is definitely also patriots news. They signed Damaris Thomas to one year deal. The former Pro Bowl wide receiver coming off an achilles tear in his pit stop in Houston last year. So now he reunites with patriots offense coordinator, Josh mcdaniels who the head coach over the Broncos during Thomas. Hey days thirty one Greg. And like I said coming up a very serious lower body injury. The expect in this man to make an impact. No or break camp with the team to seems like Baltics trying to make you know, the degree of difficulty on the season as high as possible just so he can prove it. I mean, I hope he does as well. As all these other former mcdaniels players that he's brought in like, Greg Sallis and Brandon Gibson in Stephen Jackson, please Tim tebow. I guess he. Yeah. He drafted Thomas. So that's probably the best thing he's ever done in Denver. Also in mentioned one retired player. Grog Zack Miller another tied in his retirement from the NFL the bears. Title suffered that gruesome. Knee dislocation tore tunnel ligaments in week eight of the two thousand seventeen season bears kept him on the roster. I guess under the hopes that he could come back, but it was too much and he's older as well. So that is definitely not. This is not a fun topic. Nor is looking up suicide stuff. But one of the worst injuries I've ever seen on a football field. Is that Zach Miller I will not be watching the bright side to that was not every team operates in uniform fashion when you have players that suffered these injuries the bears. I think they basically knew this guy will never be the same in will likely never play again and stuck with them and continue to provide for them. Yeah. I mean, that's not team. Does that bottom line? It's awesome. He won the Ed block courage award for the team. He was around the team all year, very popular guy. His entire career makes Tyler I for seemed lucky Zack Miller was one of those guys kind of George Kittle level athlete at tight end. A former quarterback converted the tight end and showed so much potential Ernest career with the Jaguars and just got hurt every single year. And finally, the news so happy trails. Zack Miller Ryan Fitzpatrick was shown in a video that went viral jogging with his new team the dolphins and seem to be carrying a little extra in the carriage. It's the off season. And he was because that's Patrick is an affable fellow that everyone likes. He's a guy that you could actually in the scrum with reporters you could ask him about his belly. And he'll give you an answer. And a funny one. Here's what the Harvard alum had to say say, I'm in peak offseason. Two weeks ago peak off scene. The thing that thing with me. I have seven kids. So in January, we have three birthdays. So we've got family birthday party, which includes cake. January rebirth. As of March March first March six Mark Levin, which again that's tough stretch fake six out of ten or eleven days. And so then we've got an April burqa, so then slow down. But now the birthdays are behind me. And I think I'm gonna try to go from peak off season for maybe down to peak in season. You know, what I love whoever did that. I love that person who brought the wind chimes. I know thing. Thanks for hanging from gutter with like your aunt reading a book underneath it. Drinking a big ice tea or day. It's gonna reminds me of Connor or he's got that deadpan delivery. That's what's happening in the news. This is from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Hey, guys. Hey. Could be a little frustrating, especially if you're in a hurry running late to find yourself at a railway crossing waiting for a train. Yes. Always. And if the signals are going in the trains, not even there yet, you can feel tempted to try and sneak across the tracks. Well, don't ever trays going a lot faster than you expect them to be and they don't and they can't stop even if the engineer hits the brakes right way, it can take a train over a mile to stop by that time. What used to be your car's just crashed hunk of metal. And what used to be you? Well, they're not think about that. The point is you can't know how quickly the train will arrive the train can't stop, even if it sees you. The result is a disaster. If the signals are on the train is on its way, and he just needs to remember one thing. Stop trains can't. Too. Good message for us on our way down to San Diego. That's all through the town down there. Earlier this week almost got run over solid PSA. All right. It's time to get into it. Let the festivities begin your the GM brag. What is your the GM tell tell our new listeners? It is a recurring segment we've done before the draft where we won general manager played by any any one of us makes a call to another proposing a trade that would make some some some fun sense role plane. It's got laughter. It's sometimes got songs involved. It's fun for the whole family laid out beautifully. Greg laid out so beautifully that you're going to get us going. Oh off all right. I didn't even think who who am I going to call here. Really ashtec show. I mean, no, I mean like which person here's John. I'm strategy to. Yeah. I'm Jay Gruden while Redskins head coach Jay Gruden and I'll be calling his brother Jon Gruden played by Colleen. All right. No general managers involved here. But still we're having fun. Johny here. Reagan. John John scored on St. grew near. Are you doing great to talk to your brother house? Mom. What else he loves me more? You know, I think that's always been something. That's bothered. You hasn't it? It's kinda why I walk through life feeling so comfortable. Glad I'm on the opposite coast. Let me suck that t- longer longer. Okay. I forgot about Jay Gruden in the teat second. Does love the beat. Callback. Hang up on you. No, you're a lot going on with with Jon Gruden the raiders these days. Yes. There is a lot of rumors that you're trading the quarterback. I know you love their car that you're too afraid to train them that you don't wanna get blocked on Twitter. So I gotta deal for you. I will trade you the number sixteen pick. In this draft. Our first round pick to move up to your first round pick. I will throw in Josh Norman guys level veterans zehr, Oakland, I will throw in next year's first round pick. Oh, and I will throw in all the secrets that Bruce Allen has on you that he's held over your career secret. He will no longer use anymore. Okay. All right. Go ahead. Sorry. Well, there's a lot for me to to dig into. They're not sure what secrets Brucie has on me. How do you think he's lasted in the NFL for twenty years? What is the deal? Join the first first round pick this year. Josh Norman in next year's first to move up for us to go draft our quarterback to the number four spot. Okay. Well, we do have three first rounders, and you are my brother, but you did remind me that mom loves you more. So not gonna do. The Super Bowl trophy. Just because of the mom thing. Just because of the mom thing. Listen, you've always had a cake walk through life. Jay. All right. It's not gonna be this time. Call somebody else. Don't open the coal human score. Exactly. That's the lesson. Yeah. That's that is bargaining and the Goshi one oh one don't start with like one of the like worst cheap shots. You could take it somebody by the way the Redskins have the fifteenth pick fifteenth pick so for the rest of us. So the Redskins give to I. And Josh Norman to get the number four pick. I. Peterson there too. I kind of wonder why the raiders wouldn't think longer about that? If that's how decisions are being made that you might now. Like mayo left out in the dark on that decision. You know, which does not seem on usual. I think these are the two guys running they're running their teams. I think twain Haskins is like a lot of people think he's kind of a rich man's at his best the Richmond. The Andy Dalton or Kirk cousins thinking fit nicely. If you're a Richmond's any adult, and you are comfortably on the right side of the Dalton yet Dalton scale. So I think take up to number four. I would if I only have a future if I wasn't Jon Gruden in this situation. I would do it who's a rich man's and Andy Dalton during the thought of Dwayne Hassans kind of like a rich man's cousins or west coast. Yeah, we'll kind of that west coast, not not a high Byron left, which high not doubt. That's true. Yeah. We'll find out but the great timing west coast type of quarterback, very accurate smart. Sucks. The here. The family squabble them away a potential, but eliminate in the I do think like Jay Gruden walks through life with a certain sort of confidence that you know. I think his parents loved him more than John John's got that that edginess. I mean, he's one of the greatest arena players in history. Of course, he's walking feeling you're working on some assumptions there. Okay. All right. I will go next. I will play the role of Packers general manager, Brian goon too. And I will be calling. Chris Wesseling in the role of Bengals general manager slash owner. Mike brown. Mike year. Brian good begun office. Please hold. Committed him. China. Caterwauling type stuff. But I in good who Brian good because here what's up this, Mike? This is Mike don't you have any Tommy Dorsey some big band music. What's going on with that? With very proud of our heritage here in Green Bay. And my parents raised me to be a good German. Boy. So if you have an issue with the whole music, maybe we don't need to be on the phone right now, you called me, son. How old are you by the way, eighty three going on one hundred thirty? All right, Mike. I, you know, we don't usually do business. In fact, I'm new to this job still. I don't do business with anyone we've spoken to before. Frankly. I don't know how it got your number. I didn't even know you had a phone but all rotary. Yeah. All these things set aside. I want to do business with you. And I'll tell you why. Let's be honest. You are not going anywhere with the current roster. You have and that's not to say, you're never gonna go anywhere. You just need who do you think you off? Brian. I'm Judy dismissive respect Guti. I am my team is a win. Now outfit right now. Okay. I thought your six nine yes. But that's the past. I believe with Aaron Rodgers and a new coaching staff. We are ready to get back into contention in see. FC which means I believe I want to add parts, and I think I need to add parts of get over the hump. Now. I look at your Oster, Mike, and I see a you're in the middle of nowhere. You're a man without a country right now. And that's why I wanna take a certain superstar wide receiver off your hands. A man on the wrong side of thirty and with a wide receiver that has maybe to peak years left, and I know he wants to get paid. And all that are you going to be to Super Bowl in the next two or three years? I don't think so with AJ green roster just might well. We'll see my point quarterback win a playoff game eating more assets. And I need a number one receiver two or number two receiver to pair with. Devante adam. So this is what I'm gonna offer. You get ready and respect the Guti actually, can you? Hold on one second toe. Wow. Press your luck. Felt more. My crown. Feels like a circus from hell. All right. I'm back. Sorry. I had to get my paperwork. All right here, we go. I am willing to give you my first pick next week. That's twelve overall and third seventy five overall. And mike. I don't know if you know, but the second and third round picks are very valuable. Come here and sit on my knee. And I'll tell you what valuable in exchange for AJ green and two four. That's the one ten. Oh, you you don't not only what my best player. You want me to kick in another draft pick your response. We we don't do business. Like that. What do you mean? Come with a better offer your best player on my team. You want me to four fit contention? You call me a man without a country. I'm supposed to give up my team. And you want me to also throw in draft pick on top of it interference needed to be changed. We needed to have a look at it to fix it. We couldn't have it happen again. What happened in the Superdome badge? I by voting and everyone else will rue the day you passed that law you, sir, or classless. But let's not end this phone, call on a bad note. I mean. Why? I take that back. I apologize like didn't need that. And our son of respective show me and the ten minutes we've been on the horn together. All right, Chad. How about you? Ace what effect what if I take that off the board? Take the four off the board. First and third fray J green. I'm any more than that. I think about it. Because some of what you say is true 'em really gonna win a Super Bowl with AJ green in his prime in the next couple of years. Okay. But you're asking me to give up a lot. I'm gonna need. The number twelve the number seventy five and two thousand twenty third round pick on top of. Fray digging for AJ berry K throw in a fifth. Now, I'm not throwing anything. I'm throwing in the best player on my team. And I'm throwing the towel a Super Bowl aspirations. Please. Mike in fantasyland. Hey, I want to win a title Marvin Lewis said a few years ago, I'm trying to win a title before. Mike brown. Bro leaves you just earth you just employed Marvin Lewis for eighteen years. You're telling me trying to win a title best coach ever had have you ever seen? David Shula, an odd. Friend Reuss cusp. You know, what Mike I respect the hell out of you. Does it come out that way, I respect you so much? I'm going to take you on that offer a first third and third into thousand twenty. And now I got Aaron Rodgers Davante Adams in AJ green at Lambeau. Let's fly. Thank you for doing business. Contentious. But business got done. Those are you know, what when you're talking about guys these high positions of power, there's a lot of egos involved. And that's what we saw. But they're also businessmen and we did business. I like good time to Bengals fan who by the way. How what would be the fan reaction to that people? Love it for the Packers and say, the Bengals hoodwinked think. So a I in two thirds realistic Bengals fan have to take goodies point of view to some degree that what were you going with AJ green? And Andy Dalton over the next two or three years almost as much as del gut and he's in his prime and a better place. I don't know if I trust it what Mike Brown to do anything with those picks that's going to dry the team further. That's the other thing. Mike Brown's making picks anymore. You know, you could make how many picks of they made in the last ten twenty years. How many are close to his good as age green? Fair. Colleen, you're up. All right here. We go. I am going to be Bruce Allin. And I'm calling Steve who will be played by Mark Zeller? Okay. All right. So it again, it is Bruce Allin callers Steve Kerr, okay? The condom here a guy bomb baby loose. Listen, I want Josh. We know you're taking Cuyler I feel like the jig is up. My man, I have not, you know, this whole media maelstrom the idea that we're giving up Josh Rosen. I don't know where it's coming from. We are very committed to him as a player, and we're still looking at other players as well, Bruce. So you're not open for business for Josh didn't say that either. But I just don't like the presumption of you rolling in within the first fifteen seconds of the call trying to push me around left and right Steve bomb does not get moved off his seat. He's weighty. Listen, I'd like to get this done before crushed this breakfast burrito. So let's figure this out. What's it gonna take to get? Josh Josh is a first round quarterback that we still view with that level of based on his potential. I don't think that we'd even give him away for what we got in last year. I want. First round pick. Plus this is a quarterback with excessive excessive future potential. Well, that's we're starting. There's no sense in pussyfooting around here. We'll send you our self. All right. We'll send you the floor. And then. Maybe not a second. What about a third third? What year is third occur in next year? How about this? You throw in a fifth next year as well. And we can be talking some business. I think I think this could happen. Listen me and the wife were coming out to Sedona June. We'd like to take you guys out to as well, we'll throw that into dinner. And there's well, I think the deal off the table. I am taking the deal. I am taking the deal. This is going to put back in very high standing with the organization from top to bottom. It's needed. Josh rosen. He's a Redskin. Thank you, baby. Got quoting a deal. How Bruce L? Fired. Yeah. I got fleas. It just started throwing an extra picks after the first round pick just for fun. You should've kept going see if you could get another. I want it like I I was very happy with the hall. They would say so you got a I in a fifth and third and third huge and dinner and dinner fold the Redskins rose in value went up from year ago significantly of it, and you know, Jay Gruden does not know about it because he operates obviously is right annals. So yeah, we're desperate for quarterback you could break character now. But I'm my hands in know. Pocket. You know, there's like the streets talking that they may be lucky to get a three. Yeah. Did anybody talk to Bruce before this phone call? Now, there's there's a reason why Bruce Allen's going to be ranked dead last than my GM rankings which. Actress deal they will get a first rounder. Everything we're hearing is that there's just not enough interest in him. There's no Mark. I think they'd be happy at this point to get like a mid second or whatever that would be. I think it'll be actually a second or third. Unless you hold onto him till some I think it's a good move. Well, you do have a potential quarterback solution. I don't know. I don't know about just gave up a I know. I mean Rosen. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right interesting. I mean if it works for the Redskins and he plays eight good years. No one's gonna care. We're on fire, by the way. I don't think we had two deals consummated in the first two years that we've done this. So we are two three right now west you're up in yet. My, you know, the first Gruden deal is the best deal on the table. Give me a very well that got soil by some family stuff that was beyond shitting Bruce Allin not far on actually had a Bruce L one. But I've got a backup. Okay. I am Bill Belichick and Greg is bucks general manager Jason light. For that main speak. Take it anywhere. You want really become the character. Give voice to he's Manley. He's a mess. Bruce. Rough. Jason light here. Nice lappy Ichiro boss dome broke. Mr. Pella, check, congrats on all that arm. Twisting you had to do to get Bruce Arians out of retirement. What a great Guy Fawkes guy foam, anywhere tight end. You know what I mean? It's just it's just a pleasure to hear this funny. Bella check, everyone talks about buying the know your new coach isn't gonna use OJ Howard. Let's talk about him this guy famously said, you know, I got no use for fullbacks. You see what he did with tight ends and eras ONA? I need a replacement for ground. Let's let's get this OJ Howard deal done. Second round pick. So. Round pick this year third round pick. I got a couple extra of each of them. Let's do it. Second third or OJ Howard. So so what's the offer Bill? One one second second and third this year for OJ Howard. You've already gotten to cheap years out of him. You gotta you gotta start paying him soon. We'll take them up your hands. I need a gronk. Picture at the end of the round. You got those compensatory picks. You get six picks in the first three rounds. OJ Howard is a first round pick. And he's played like a first round pick. I want your first round pick and your third round pick. And let's be honest. Why are you even trying anymore? You've accomplished everything or get it. You drafted him. He's yours. You know, just like Ronald Jones and guacamole stuck the your name forever. I get it. But what's it gonna look like on your head coach won't even use your first round draft pick? He's tied income on first round pick. The pass out. I love this. So you're insulting me. Now. I mean, that's got to get a better deal. I taught you everything you know, except using a second round pick on a kicker. Oh, Jay Howard to one of the best first round picks. We made it's gonna cost the first to come back. But if you if I'll make it a first and a fourth and do deal with little consideration pink pony. If you know what I'm saying. You're like my Genia dead to me. Now don't ever talk to me again. Wow. Now that any deal involving Greg does not get consummated and in an angry. Yeah. I thought that was a fair offer. Day our four v very upset if the patriots Gatto Jay Howard, who's an excellent young tight end. I hear you. I don't want him going anywhere near New England. If he was like going into a second year and not as third maybe the first round pick. But you're not getting really any. You're only getting what one or two more cheap years out of him before you got to pay him. And that's not worth for sit all pro Talto know beyond just the money picks. Twenty four years old. How many was a first round pick. And he's great, right? But you've already got most of the value out of him by you having those cheap years. Got him on there. Got your building. You got him under contract three years for the next for ten million dollars. Just pretty amazing. Maybe there was some middle group's making lesson. He's making less money over the next three years and Jesse James's place at. Lawrenceville now, I was hoping that just didn't happen because it started to get ugly. Just the first for Howard straight up would have been curious who would say, no. And that's an area. Good question. I guess we'll never know the face. The way the game works. You're the GM loss moments. We just got breaking news Bruce been fired. He's been like a. Donuts. Bruce in his family. But that's what happens you're the GM sometimes in the phone careers change in an instant, Mark sessile, you're up. All right. This one is from jets payroll assistant hell Borowitz to patriots coach Bill Belichick played by Dan. I got a channel west. What? What Bill it's how Borowitz remember me. Former patriots ballboy KOMO. I'm still living in that dingy apartment. You put me up in Yonkers Bill thirty five pine street on his right by the raceway. It's spot that dog, Hugh, and Jonathan Kraft sent me gore. Go corrigo is alive. And well, but I must say it's expensive to feed them Bill. Go go only eats raw slabs of meat very expensive. And I have to go to this underground butcher shop. That's only open at night. Gore. Go makes me uneasy Bill even when I drive to work the sixty one point eight miles from thirty five pine street in Yonkers to Florin park. I can still hear gore go talking to me. Gore. Go has been telling me to call you Bill. To call you up on the phone what's happening about Sam. I Mike max office. Like you asked me to be led to hold on. I go hang on. I gotta here this out. It's late Bill MicMac left at four PM. Like, he always does. I am pressed for time. Bill core go is hungry. Meaning I need to drive the sixty one point eight miles home to feed gore. Go at thirty five pine street. He is ravenous. But first Bill, I must do what gore? Go says corrigo is always talking his barking his incessant noise becomes words in my head give Sam to Bill I hear give Sam to Bill or go says all night, Lauren go talks to me Yonkers evil Bill. Why did you in Jonathan Kraft? Send me this animal. Why I'm Mike max PC ready to make the move. The terms are as followed per Gorgonio. We will send San darnold to Foxborough on a greyhound bus on may first in return New England. We'll give the jets twenty twenty two fourth round pick and linebacker. Kyle van noy. You will. Also said my friends back to me safe and sound at thirty five pine street like you and Jonathan Kraft promised John Yastrzembsky, Jim McNally, my fellow ballboys who have been silenced gore. Go is asking for them and gore. Go says the false allegations against him soon to rain down in the newspapers, we'll make the Sam persona non grata in New York. Nobody will question the trait or go says are you listening Bill? Go on. I'm done. Okay. So you're gonna give me Sam darnold and exchange for backup linebacker and a fourth round pick and our ballboys and the ballboys they're dead. Now, they're not we buried them alive under the mass pike, this is so dark. No, they're not. I'm not gonna do it. I can't do. It can't hurt. Tom. Brady's feeling time would be very mad at me. Can't do it. He's got another five years in Amisi. How do you keep me in this position? How do you say no to this? This was my mission. I'm really worried you're gonna come. Find me Linda get the police on the phone. I think kegs needs protection Origo will find you. Linda. Let's get out of here. I need to know more about what's going on at thirty five. Pine street. Really blew up. It goes face that he called the. Called Bella check almost acting like a jets fan jets fans interest. He just doesn't. Got a lot of he's got a lot more Brady years in, you know, it's just not a smart move. Then. Kyle van noise. Name backup linebacker the best player. They add in the Super Bowl there. Well, that's what he said. I didn't. Gorgon only eats from a butcher shop. That's open in the middle of the night. Take away the canyon leaves at four o'clock in the afternoon every day. I don't believe that at all. I think that man is a grinder twenty two hours a day at least. Stories that he just like seem that way to you. He spends all day, and there's like a thousand coffee cups in his office. He's just there at all times. Well, we have a dog saying otherwise. Yeah, that's true. Should really do. Yeah. You're the GM more often. Ever show. I'm just saying in the build up to the draft pick of all the possibility great think of a world where like Mike maccagnan answers the phone. But then Charlie Casserly crashes in and. I did have with that. Chris Greer was going to call Fitzpatrick. All right. All right. Why not Mark? You'll be Ryan Fitzpatrick. Orion here. Hey, right. See the Chris Chris Greer general manager Miami Dolphins, Chris. How are you? Yeah. Good to hear from you wondering if you wouldn't mind just for a minute jumping into the fish tank with me talking a little football. So I saw the the workout videos doing you're running. Workout to work. You know, when you signed someone like me like the I have been working the the little scrum interview. You did that just throw the media off, you know, fits grind throw a couple of things out there for you in a minute vast thing, that's the thing people are into these days too. I don't I don't. I mean, I'm an old school quarterback. I didn't do fad diets. Do the Fitzy diet Bailey Olympic? That's an option. All right. Well, I'm listening to you. But no, I'm not going to be at gins low-sodium. These are too low sodium as part of the regimen. Like, I just want to be one hundred percent clear that you're aware that you're literally our are starting quarterback. I mean for now that's true. But there's months to go months to go. I mean, I I look at my body is a temple and right now a lot of people in the temple lock going on the temple. But it is my way just a simple check in say hi to the wife on the kids. But the reminder, you're you're gonna add literally are starting quarterback you into my phone. I'm sorry. I had no idea who you are appreciate the dieting advice from you. But you know, it's going to do it this way just lay off the kicker it, maybe. Apparently on the radar the front office. My entire thing where I thought you Chris for your signed him specifically explicitly to lose two tames and get the best pick possible. He's in great shape for that. Yeah. That's true. But that's a popular misconception. Greer is thinking Lombardi and people aren't aware that it's all Michael Lombardi. I mean, I specially like the the line from Fitzpatrick, which I don't know if he was borrowed from like an adult movie that my body is a temple, and there's a lot of people. Beefy men. All right. There you go. You're the GM good stuff on style. Right. We set it before lot coming up next week. So check it out. We also have our final Twitter show before it goes on some type of hiatus. So we're gonna have content for you guys. Monday Twitter show, Monday podcast Wednesday Twitter show Wednesday. Mark settlers first annual mock draft Thursday and Saturday is he Joe, hey, now, the mixture check it all out Connie, thank you so much for joining us. Yeah. And you'll have more network. Are you going to be in Nashville? I believe you are. I am. I'll be hanging out Nashville beyond stage with Irv for nights one and two and all I got I love Nashville been there until last year. Yeah. The draft kinda goes all out, and you always have a look that is totally foreign to how I typically see you last year that the hair is different. You dress different. What do we have coming? You made a lot of news. You've had a lot of social viral like the draft is Connie time right time. I'm basically going to be a giant sequent at the draft giant sequin? Yeah. Like some look forward to do the hair. I don't know. Yeah. Well, I think it's maybe because. Do you decide? So. Yeah. Remind. You're gonna go that if you need any other reason, why to check NFL network coverage of the draft Connie FOX will be central component in as a giant sequin yet. The giant better than being Bruce Allin. It is better. All right. Thank you. Everybody for listening, and we are out of here. 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Don't miss what he's ready to say all that and more. It's time for us to get up with you right now. Live from new york jam jam packed and ready to go jalen maters say this with no nobody i know loves cbs fantasy football more than jalen rose and he is ready to go. We are thrilled to be part of the fantasy football marathon this morning and look at this we have crossed the one one million drafted teams mark and that is going to continue to climb as the fantasy football marathon continues and we will have lots of fantasy conversation for you coming. You got this morning in fact at least indirectly. It starts in oakland. We start with the n._f._l. Ruling against antonio brown's grievance over wearing his old helmet a decision isn't that brown is quote very unlikely to appeal according to our adam schefter despite losing the grievance braun appears set to return to raiders training camp. Here's here's what he posted. After the ruling quote while i disagree with the arbitrator's decision i'm working on getting back to full health and looking forward to rejoining my teammates on the field the old i'm excited about this season appreciate all the concerns about my feet and then a bunch of hashtags including always a fight which seems extraordinarily appropriate considering littering antonio brown. There always seems to be something. Let's turn to josefina anderson i on this. What is the situation where that tony brown getting back on the field for the raiders well well first of all. I talked to a league source from the n._f._l. Park avenue who said quite frankly. We felt like this whole process was unnecessary but we've seen it all from a._b. Nothing surprises us so he either needs to pick a newer newer model of the one that he likes or get one off the approved list. I talked to a team sources said quite frankly. This also was very dramatic and we do admit that it is disturbing. That even even got to this point but we do feel like antonio. Brown is the happiest when he is on the field and lastly. I talked to a former n._f._l. Doctor who said the good news is when it comes to speak because that is ashforth concern is that the skin on the feet does heal quickly. He does not expect. It's a bleed into the regular season but he just needs for that skin to thicken up all right so dan look. There were some people we all know them. For whom it is always something right. I mean there's just always drama and so however this thing resolves itself and i think all of us think this part of it. The helmet part of it will resolve itself. It's just a matter of time before the next thing. The question is how does this new coach jon gruden handle that i've if i'm jon gruden in in really teammates. I'm concerned in three reasons why to me would be one. This is different than a holdout financially right like we understand that in the n._f._l. And pro sports when you hold out out for your money it doesn't really get talked about you have to do and take care of yourself too. I feel like as a player from jon gruden. Something else is coming as well. We've got disconnect with the team. We've got the foot stuff. We've got the helmet. We've got him going. Ghost did not staying in contact with the team as a player going well what what else there's only a matter of time before for something else is gonna come third thing is screen and you can only make a first impression once you get two shots at it and as a team that is yes i understand a._b. And the greatness greatness that he is but i don't really know if i'm on the raiders this is my first real interaction with him as a teammate and he can't get a second opportunity to make that first impression. All i know always drama you played in the n._f._l. For number year guys around the league talk yeah and so you may only get one chance to make a first impression guys may have come into this with an open attitude and understand it but they probably had an understanding of what a._b. was guys. I'm sure there is some connections where people talk to some of the guys in pittsburgh and saw how it ended ended there and then see you begin to see this again and you think okay well. We're we're here. He brought down here to oakland versus the fee now it's the helmet now it's going to be looking and to find a newer version of the same model which is out there which is gonna be fun and money from it. You know that somebody it's going to be entertaining but those guys know and like you said there's always going to be something. Teo chad johnson like these guys great receivers that have big egos. This follows them for the entirety of their career. Look dan. I mean to your the point. You made a moment ago money. Everyone gets everyone in dallas where we're going to get zeke in a second understand guys who want their money. We're talking about a guy who accidentally froze. His feet won't play because he doesn't like the omen. I've never heard of anything like this and you as a player. I'm going you took two weeks away. Two weeks plus away from our football team and getting ready to go accomplish a goal because of the fee for now the the helmet. It's just a really selfish act and that's the issue that i would have is if i'm going. Maybe you took two plus weeks away away from reps that we can't get back on the derek yeah. That's what i'm saying. I need you. I need h._b._o. Tonight at ten ten o'clock and i think the interesting question is when is he going to return in two. I did ask some people from the team. Why wasn't he with the team. During this because you don't need your helmet it'd be a part of meetings and nobody could really answer that question except to speculate relate whether anyone from upstairs wanted him away just because of the hard knocks camera while he resolves. It is always something. The next drama with antonio brown is guaranteed to be right around the corner speaking drama. The cowboys training camp continues to roll along without ezekiel elliott. He continues his hold out in kabo yesterday. Backup running back alfred morris zeke's potential replacements was asked if there has been a lot of talk about elliott told that during came us so <hes>. It's one of the things like that's not. That's not problem we we have gained prepare for. We have camp to do we. We have our own issues or worries. Whatever you wanna say we we have daily tasks innocence so that's between you know his his his representation and ownership. You know that's that's not our problem. You know that's not like our focus so we don't really talk about it. All honestly there is what you were talking about dan. That's a player saying look. That's him. That's his money that much more normal variety of training camp drama. Where are we right now with the cowboys because they don't just have zeke to worry about they have obviously dactyl worry about annemari cooper and actually spoke to a source connected to ezekiel elliott to get his his reaction to that report that was floating out there that decade is now asking for forty million in the text back was really damn i don't think so but what it did was generated interesting discussion as to what is really inappropriate price for each the big three right from that when you consider the fact that russell wilson leads the market at thirty five ben rothlisberger underneath that at thirty four aaron at thirty three point five but i think the threshold really is carson wet right because people are talking about does dak deserve to be paid paid more than carson wentz. Who's new money. Average is at thirty two. Do you think that especially win. Carson wentz had durability issues. This is why deck and his team can go dictate to the cowboys and we stumbled upon will unbiased tweet from will cain hers taken whatnot and this is why like playoff starts. What's the point. He's got three cars and one zero. His record is thirty two and sixteen carson. Wentz is thirty two or twenty three and seventeen division. Entitles decades to carson has one q._b._r. Deck ninety-six carson ninety two games missed deck has zero carson wentz his eight listen. I ama self-proclaimed band boy of carson wentz as a player but that's dak can dictate to the cowboys. Why would i take less than carson wentz because does the test of i watch tape and i watched this guy and this guy looks carson. Wentz looks like a better player than deck prescott to me into a lot of other probably probably the upside right but the results say another thing in some ways and so that's why it's a really interesting conversation other level to this and obviously there were enormous. Fantasy implications is that we're gonna get to throughout the morning particularly involving ezekiel elliott but there's another level to this. They've got three guys. Two of them are in camp but they cannot go through the entire season. Not getting those deals feels done bobby. You were telling me this morning and i agree. I think zeke that deal will get done because he's withholding services but they're going into the season now. He really wanted to just play this thing out and figured etc. Both guys are under contract for twenty nine thousand nine that is true but teams don't have too high profile guys going the off season because they have two players in one franchise tag. They wanna get dax deal done so they can tag amaury to buy them extra time to be able to negotiate or potentially twice. I want to say this again and you've heard me say this on the show n._f._l. Teams don't get themselves in trouble playing great players great player money you get yourself in trouble by paying a good player great player. Money deck has been a good player. Be careful playing paying in great player money. They have very few options when it comes to that so those are the two holdouts that most people around the sport are talking about. There's another that might actually be just as important and even uglier and sam ponder picks it up from there. The redskins ends are one of a handful of teams with full blown quarterback competition in camp. Colt mccoy has been million j. gruden's offense but injured of course dwayne haskins showed flashes ashes this preseason opener despite a pair of interceptions so let's talk about this situation in washington josie because everybody's talking about melvin gordon and ezekiel israel elliott but there is a big important holdout in washington right now trent williams. What are you hearing on this and has the potential to be the nastiest hold out because he continues to be away a matter of fact. I was actually spoke to trent williams last week and asked him. When are you coming back and he continued to be kind of vague and arbitrary about a particular when there was a report from n._b._c. saying he was not coming back period. I brought this to a redskins official at the preseason game last week in cleveland asked him about it. They said what trump needs to remember is that at the time we did his extension attention in two thousand fifteen he was the highest payed left tackle in terms of guaranteed in the market has since shifted since then with guys like russell kun trent brown nate solder and he has two years left on his contract contract and lastly. I did talk to adrian peterson about this just yesterday said. How is this impacting you the fact that he's still gone. He said look from day one. You notice that this is having a tremendous impact. Impact you go from not having to worry about the blindside to having a chip on that side added tied it on that side that changes everything and lastly. That's having a big impact on dwayne hassans because i think he's having to think way. Hey too much in all of our quarterbacks feel this way yeah dan. How important is that rookie q._b. Come in you're trying to learn the ropes. Get out there. You're starting left tackle. Not there and you're trying to when a job how big is a huge deal is probably one of the top three deals for rookie quarterback because like when you're a quarterback and you've got a really good tackle. It's like going into a fight knowing you can't loose ooh yeah. You can put an x. on the left side of your line. You're blind side things that you can't see and feel good. I don't have to worry about that so there's there's a confidence as a player are there. There's a piece of going by can even move that way a little bit of the pressure off my right or something like that because i had so much trust in trent williams now. Let me say this. I watched the tape and i reached out dwayne. After the first game he actually came away really encouraged with his performance and so did the team and understand why those mistakes happen. The interceptions and the kid is so smart he understands how to correct those mistakes and i honestly believe he thinks and so do i that he can be their day one opening starter order if he corrects those things over these next ten fifteen days yeah. They've got a good problem right now in redskins and redskins territory. They've got three quarterbacks. That seemed like pretty good options. It's all right. It's time to get up and go oklahoma head coach. Lincoln riley is still not ready to name a starting quarterback for the upcoming season but he continues to be impressed by alabama transferred jalen hurts. Here's riley on monday. Jill's been great you know he's a he's a god that appreciates. It's how we do things here. I think he's you know come in like somebody. That hasn't done anything in their career. Somebody that's here to be the best. He can this year for us and let's earning the spot. That's earned the respect of his team-mates understands. He's got work to do that. Unlike are just like any other player in our program and i think our blurs respected go about him all right so that's his take on him bobby. There's no way jalen. Hurts doesn't start right now. We saw this last year. Lincoln riley said the same thing about colin murray. All column ultimately ended up doing was going out and winning your heisman trophy and then getting drafted first overall. This is what college coaches have to say at this point. So you know what the status quo. He'll be fine. He'll be the starter all right just making cherif onto baseball flavor. Tour has launched three more home runs against the orioles over the course of the yankees doubleheader sweep giving him thirteen homers against baltimore this season those thirteen homers tied torres for second most against team in one season in m._l._b. History only lou gehrig has more meanwhile more late inning roic for carlos santana one day after launching go ahead tenth inning grand slam santana crushed a walk off homer in the bottom of the night lifting cleveland to a six five win over the redskins red sox the indians indians are an aol best forty four and eighteen since june. First cleveland is now a half game ahead of the twins first place in the a._l. Central tha basketball the n._b._a. Released the entire to any nineteen twenty twenty schedule on monday with marquee matchup at staples center tiling opening night lebron a._d. And the lakers will take on paul george and the new-look clippers on tuesday october twenty second following busy n._b._a. Off season several big names names will be making returns against former teams next season that includes november twenty seven th when kyrie irving is back in boston and anthony. Davis visits new orleans on e._s._p._n. All right. Let's send it over to greenie now to talk some n._b._a. Jalen absolutely because jalen rose's made his triumphant return. It was a delightful to have you back. I know you have some superlatives either. Some of these games some of these big games that were announced yesterday and the n._b._a. Schedule released which games are most likely to give fans the most bang for or their bucks so they're going to be a lot of people rightfully so trying to do what they can. It be in the staple center when you have the star power of the lakers and the clippers. That's gonna cost you a lot of money. Okay okay but if you're a fan of the oklahoma city thunder and you live in that region just think of all of the emotional returns that they're going to have this career russell westbrook and james harden. Come back to play. They get a chance to watch k. D. okay sit on the sideline with the net. How how 'bout victor oladipo he was once a member of their t. How 'bout serge ibaka holding the championship trophy on their season tickets. I'm not sure you're making the point you think you're making nothing but a fan my entire life okay. There's nothing more depressing than sitting in the stands and watching all the guys who used to love who are now crushing it on other teams. Come back and beat your. You're team is going to be more bang for your buck because when you go to a thunder game you're going to be emotionally invested almost on a nightly basis they should pay. Hey you to come to the net. You have another set of games here titled chris cringle deliver. He delivers on christmas day. Oh my goodness the star power is going to be magnified acne anytime you have those lakers and clippers co why lebron can either one of those guys the first person in the history of the n._b._a. To win it finals m._v._p. Three teen anthony davis paul george how is going to come into his own. This season the christmas they gained deliver. How in the east the box the sixers hoping to see if they can now be the next teams to win the eastern conference office. Jaanus in bead been simmons. Tobias harris is gonna be star build on christmas day. The schedule was what you good expected to be and there's a ton of incredibly exciting stuff to see the thing that jumped out to me and maybe not a surprise but boy is it glaring. They've never had a star come. In the magnitude of zion williamson right he comes in and the pelicans are everywhere. They have made them. One of the marquee. Teams in that kid is the reason why i want to very quickly. Get to take from you on this the n._c. Double a. yesterday backed off off the rich paul rule after a considerable amount of backlash and a poignant op ed rich paul himself wrote in a statement the n._c. Double a. said quote n._c._w. Member schools schools developed a new agent certification process to accomplish a goal and reflect our higher education mission however we've been made aware of several current agents who've appropriately represented former former student athletes in their professional quest and whom the n._b._a. Players association has granted waivers of its bachelor's degree. We carmen essentially they've dropped the four year degree degree piece that had been aimed at many people believed had been aimed at rich paul. I've been waiting to get your take on this for a while. What is your perspective on how this all. This is really loaded in as a student athlete i had to show myself if somebody that took pride in his academics that there's a difference between being educated and being smart. You're just because you have a degree. That doesn't necessarily mean that you're more intelligent someone else however the dynamic has been for so very long the people with degrees were advising without them but now the game has changed with the players being more influential being more in power power and frankly being more informed and when you have now in the n._b._a. Because this is the n._c._a._a. Really reacted to the n._b._a. Not the other way around and it's not necessarily about rich paul even though we're calling it the rich paul rule the unfortunate thing. The rule was designed to prevent the a nit knicks rich paul and now is the disturbing part is in your mind. Is there any question that the backlash and particularly the power of lebron james and rich paul are the reason season they change the only reason in social media and i got news for that good old boy network. You're not putting that toothpaste back in the two now. Look at the n._f._l. Bobby wagner just represented represented himself to get a record deal to buy his harris in his dad record deal in philadelphia. We talked so much about leonardy uncle dennis this off season so therefore boorda players have now understood that they have more empowerment but also this more diversity in the room. Everybody just needs to get used to change in a variety of different ways. We have much more to do you this morning and we're part of the fantasy football marathon here on get up this morning. We will have a lot of that plus. This is drew brees. Declining the future hall of famer struggled at the the end of last year. Is that the quarterback we will see in two thousand nineteen our guys away and as the marathon continues who are this year sleepers and who were the potential busts don't miss matthew ashbury with his list next get up on e._s._p._n. Create your league during our fantasy football marathon and you and everyone in your league are eligible to win a tripped e._s._p._n. Here in bristol connecticut you can check out the campus and washing taping fantasy focus podcast swells the fantasy show yours truly matthew berry. We have a huge half hour coming away here on get up much more fantasy football marathon orthon conversation including matthew berry live in five minutes is drew brees on the decline the answer to that question and some over unders fantasy related including one on patrick mahomes that may surprise you but first a little sneaking hembo time the question is simple. The answer may not be who was the old time leading score in fantasy football history. Thank thank you know find out next on e._s._p._n. At indeed we believe a resume is a great way to see an overview of a candidate but you're not hiring a resume. You're hiring a person. That's why indeed offers tools that help bridge the gap between the candidate the resume like skilled test which led you actually see candidate's abilities and action to make sure they're good fit for the job see beyond the resume with indeed experience in ready for yourself today and get a free sponsor job of grade on your first posting at indeed dot com slash promo terms and conditions apply in the midst of the fantasy football marathon here on e._s._p._n. Bobby and dan who's the all time leading scorer and fantasy football history. I'm going to say michael vick <hes>. I'm gonna go with brett farve civil with a long duration. I'm delighted that both of you got that wrong. The correct answer is drew brees. I literally said that commercial accumulated accumulated more than forty eight hundred fantasy points in standard scoring leagues during his career and i do have a little developing news as we sit here and speak adam schefter tweeting in the last eight minutes quote antonio brown will be back at the raiders facility and napa today per source. That is the extent of the the information that i have whether or not it means. He's getting ready to practice again. We do not know joe. Seen anderson is working that story. We'll have more as we continue. There are a lot of ramifications so that not the least of which of course are fantasy ramifications for that here is the one the only the man matthew berry who's with us and quickly. I did want to ask you about that with all of this. Insanity candidly italy with antonio brown. How does that impact brown and maybe even his quarterback from fantasy standpoint. Well certainly doesn't help derek carr who is being drafted. Low hasn't isn't been a great fantasy option so it's not somebody i'm considering an e._s._p._n. Standard league. He's kind of a deep league to quarterback lead guy in terms of antonio brown like it doesn't help there was already a bunch of risk and question marks around antonio brown moving from big band to derek carr that downgrade moving from one of the top offenses the n._f._l. In pittsburgh to <hes> to oakland antonio brown forty percent of his fantasy points the last two years came from deep passes derek carr last year was the least of all among all qualified quarterbacks had the lowest air the yards per target now. He didn't have antonio brown or tyrone williams. They've upgraded the offense in this off season but still it's a downgrade and he's not gonna have the connection with car that he had with ben so all those questions questions before the feet issue before the helmet issue now when he's on the field. He's an immensely talented player. He's gonna get a ton of targets but <hes> there's risk there with antonio. Brown met there never was before so a guy that for the past six years was the number one wide receiver fantasy is now more in the eight nine ten range in terms of wide receivers still very hey good still a top draft pick but there's risk there where there wasn't before. I very interesting. Let's go through some of the other decisions. People are making. Here's part of fantasy football marathon. Gimme your fantasy sleepers for this year matthew go to these guys that i think will improve upon where they're being drafted and jameis winston since twenty seventeen winston is thrown for at least three hundred yards in half this starts nine starts last year winston averaged four point six completions over eleven completions per game both would have led the n._f._l. Bruce arians fantasy friendly offense and not be able to run the ball. They're not gonna play good defense. Winston should have a monster year fantasy friendly offense for bruce. How about alexander madison boise state product backing up down and cook. No alvin cook has had a bunch of injury issues and so of course this is a team the vikings that want to run the ball adding gary kubiak to that <hes> to that coaching tree <hes> <hes> having a chemist fancies their offense when he took over last year vikings six inrush percent not point on love madison as sleeper. How about dede westbrook okay. At least i five targets twelve sixteen games last year. The last two seasons nick foles the jaguars quarterback has completed over seventy percent of his passes to the slot with a three to one touchdown interception ratio uh of course d._d. Plays a slot for the jags. I think jacksonville throw more than people realize love dede westbrook. He's a top thirty wide receiver for me and as long as we're talking oakland talked about a._b. And derek carr but no one's talking about darren waller six five to fifty six four four forty is converted wide receiver played wide receiver georgia tacky. Jackie wasn't the reverend system bronco ver- greg olsen their offense quaker jon gruden antonio brown all raving about what this guy's doing camp of course jared cook has moved onto onto new orleans and we thought about we saw how many targets that tight end position got in greg olson offense last year during waller's undrafted right now. He's basically free and drafts greenie. Love me some dan waller so that's one side of the coin. How about the other gave me some fantasy busts that people want to stay away from these are players that are still obviously going to have value but players that i think will not earn. They're avid draft position. Tom brady going top ten fantasy quarterback. I haven't much lower than that. Remember over the course of his career. His fantasy points per game down over eighteen percent without gronk in the lineup. Obviously gronk not playing this year under twenty two fantasy points in ten out of sixteen games last year. He was just quarterback eighteen points per game basis. Remember the bike <hes> the patriots the inrush percentage last season. I think brady much better n._f._l. Quarterback than fantasy asset this year. Sorry greenie hate to do it to you but lady on bell makes me nervous. This year's a fantasy asset. He's played all sixteen games only once in his career and i think the opportunities likely drop an atom gazes offense which should play at a slower pace than he played in pittsburgh remember. This is a guy who has missed eighteen games in his n._f._l. Career prior to sitting out all of last year. I think that offense line will struggle in new york jarvis landry somebody down on his well very talented player but in the four for seasons that oto beckham has played twelve or more games none of his wide receiver tight teammates have averaged even sixty receiving yards a game. I just don't think he's going to get the volume william. He's never been a big touchdown. Guy relies on volume fantasy <hes> fantasy value and with beckham in joke and everyone else there. I don't think he's going to get it. We move you want jimmy. Graham here like i don't get it. He's on the field with aaron. Rodgers good things can happen but this is a guy who last year was tight in twenty on a points per game basis just three three games in two thousand eighteen with more than fifty five receiving yards the last of which came in week six against the forty niners his fourteen point five percent red zone target share was as lowest rate since he was rookie. There's injury concerns there as well. They've got a lot of receiving options reports out of green bay. They want to run more under matt leflore. Jimmy grams a bigger name than fantasy. She asked these days unfortunately really interesting and then finally give me one breakout star for this year. People should have an eye on it. Just a guy that i think will emerge into a true true fantasy superstar and that's baker mayfield quarterback sixteen on a points in terms of total points last year baker mayfield once pretty kitchens took over last ask seasons right. He was a top ten fantasy quarterback. He actually led the n._f._l. And deep completions per game and now he adds oto beckham junior in your i mean people forget last year getting second team. Reps tyrod taylor was the guy getting all the first team reps so now they throw them in the middle of the season now a full season a full off season knowing he is the guy freddie kitchens designing the offense around him lots of talent around him talked about it with landry and and giokoo nick chubs gonna have a big gear as well setting up play action. I don't think you can underestimate the impact. Beckham's gonna have baker mayfield's a top five fantasy quarterback this year coming for the big show great to see see you again matthew berry. Thank you enjoy all the shenanigans. Is this fantasy football marathon continues. We'll see you soon and it's going well as you can see we are well over a million drafted teams and and keep those coming. We'll keep you updated all morning long. There is nothing you want to do more than play fantasy football with us this year at e._s._p._n. Sam all right greenie. Let's get back to drew brees threw. The first twelve weeks of the two thousand eighteen season brees was on his way to winning his first m._v._p. Total q._b._r. of eighty seven point one highest in the the n._f._l. Even ahead of patrick mahomes but he struggled a little bit down the stretch throwing three touchdowns and three interceptions over his final four games breeze also through it was many touchdowns as interceptions over the span as for the play offs brees was not his usual self especially against the rams. He averaged six point two yards per her attempt against los angeles is used in a playoff game in his career all right this all leads us to our required reading for today from bill barnwell well who writes on e._s._p._n. Dot com has the inevitable drew brees decline already begun. Here's more from barnwell given how breezes played it at a high level for the vast majority of his career. My best guess is that he'll continue to maintain a pro bowl caliber caliber level of play minus some moderate penalty penalty for aging after what breeze showed before and after thanksgiving last season though the error bars for any projection are far larger than they would be for most veteran and quarterbacks everything from an m._v._p. Award to a benching where the campaign is possible for him this season all right dan. I'm gonna need you to break this down for me because i think i'm just throwing this out there. I think that this is the burden of greatness right always trying to find something something wrong with them. Are you buying this right now. This season not at all the reality is this the great henry ford one said the greatest thing in life is to keep a young mind in drew brees so as a young mind so the first play this clip is going to be during that green stretch where bill barn reference these playing at a great level so atlanta's playing cover hover three here these three guys deep thirds. One of the ways to attack covered three. Is you get a guy going down the scene but as a quarterback you need to understand problem number one is this safety. He's got that third. He can easily get to that scene. You better do something with that. Safety drew brees those two great things with his mind signed radio to help this one. He is staring not at that safety but all the way out here to move far away from that seem as possible but keeping keeping with this theme of young mind also understands. I can move people with things other than my is. He's literally using his feet to sell or move. That's safety and watch what it does. That safety is supposed to be in the deep. Third is now sprinting this way. Drew brees is like professor x from x men this. This guy supposed to be deep third but he's moving objects with his mind. Now another thing to understand is this there is no such defense for the perfect throat that that is a perfect throw well. Let's go to clip to this is from the last game of the year where the decline was supposedly seen understand stand. The rams are unmanned amend defend sam. I want to do something here. I'm going to circle the five options that drew brees can throat to let me ask you a question. Are any of them open. I mean open to who exactly know what would you do with the football right here. There's nowhere to go except for the last one. You just showed me where where he can put it. I'm imagining no defense for the perfect. Throw that is not a great throw. That is a perfect throw in with jared cook and tight and this year. That's a catch. I will ask everybody at home. If this is what declining looks like would you sign up for that jeff would he could still make perfect throats yeah and look. I spent half the year on countdown last year talking about all the records that drew brees as was breaking so it seems like i think he's going to be okay this year but greenie bells right. I mean you never know okay. It's always possible. It's also practically uncharted territory tori that we're in. It's his age forty season. Only brett farve and tom brady have played the position at this age so i guess the question is what do you expect from drew brees and and what have you seen. I still expect drew brees to be a really good quarterback. In for all the reasons dance set his accuracy his anticipation that tiling those are things that make him elite he's able to still push the ball down the field because he gets the ball so quick. The area that he struggled is the perimeter of the field ten to twenty yards his ability to drive the ball really into those tight windows in the problem is he has just a little more often than you used to see him here. They're good throws and that's pretty accurate but it allows the defender to close up ever so slightly lately when dance pointed out. He's putting the ball down the field. He can drop it in the bucket and that's better tom. Brady is his other contemporary with this. Tom brady has been fantastic nick. He's still able to push the ball down the field his q._b._r. And that ten to fifteen twenty window still really really high one of the things they do in new england and i'm sure they do a little bit new orleans. It's tom brady really doesn't throw on wednesdays anymore. He limits himself on fridays thursdays third down. That's when he really needs to practice and that's why he's still really maintain eighteen high level breeze will but he's lost a little bit of a loss to the deep perimeter throws system. This is a super bowl caliber team and a super bowl caliber quarterback. This is an enormous question austin going into the season. We'll take a break coming up on get up after throwing for fifty touchdowns last year. Watkin patrick mahomes do for an encore plus. How often will our our very actually run the ball. How many starts rely gag quarterback predictions and and having a safe place to play and learn can foster a positive relationship with sports. It's all in which you can imagine you can take the smallest based in the world and imagine it being staple center going up in philadelphia didn't have much room so i had to make my basement work to mean that was like the great western forum and as parents is our the job they tried to spark that imagination within our children visit project play dot u._s. to give sports back to kids back on get. I four sneaky big news jeb safety jamal. Adams says he's dead serious about switching to corner in light of a hamstring injury tremaine johnson bobby is the concern for the jets on the defense prevent should be maybe a little bit of one thing jamal adams. He played over two hundred snaps last season at quarterback. He's a very talented player and if you look at the landscape of that division in the a._f._c. I've seen he's there are no ma'am wide receivers that you really have to worry about. This is big because i think the jets they're going to be a better team. Where people believe draining much to your happiness. I agree he's the second can best player on the third. If lebanon bell is back to his normal self. He's an integral part of what they do when he's a great safety lever in the middle of the field. Meanwhile let me get to another sneaky. The big story here miami named former e._s._p._n. Three hundred crew jaren williams. They're starting quarterback not ohio state transfer tate martell dan. What's your reaction dot b._c. Yeah massive deal for a couple of reasons one many as their new head coach mary's himself journ williams to this is the highest rated saini at the quarterback position. Miami's gotten the fifteen years it also shows a little bit of an issue with the transfer portal that tate martell ohio state kind of thought he was going to be a shoe in for the job last year this year bet on himself and was wrong but i credit many diaz for making the right decision for the miami hurricanes. We'll talk more college football. As we continue of course today's the e._s._p._n. Fantasy football marathon merrythought sam fantasy football. Everyone has a strategy secret to their success and sodas our own field yates. He has the nine things you need to know before. You draft your team this season with the nine rules. You should follow the drafting your fantasy football team number one. Are you speaking generally. The most valuable commodity fantasy football is a stand up morning morning back that you can plug into your lineup and expect a top level results each week some call them set it and forget it players. I call them saquon barkley rule number two way way down your quarterbacks shawn watson was one of the game's elite finish the options in two thousand eighteen scoring twenty point seven three points per game a robust total good enough for fifth best amongst signal callers. The twentieth best quarterback was shameless winston. At seventeen point eight points per game less than three point per week difference there are lots of good quarterbacks for fantasy patients young grasshopper rule number three load up on receivers and running backs early while you may tell me that that i sound redundant at this point counter point of extreme emphasis there is no such thing as too many good backs or receivers on your roster with a certain set of exceptions rule number four. If you're taking the tight end early and better be part of the royal tree specifically zakar to the eagles travis kelsey up the chain will kill of the forty nine beyond them think value in patients when it comes to the tight end spot. We'll number five draft your kickers and defenses last. Let me be clear draft. Your defense is a defense rarely tips. The scales that other spots on your roster turkish the difference between the second best in the tenth best defense in two thousand eighteen was a mere one point five points per game as for checkers. Keep it simple draft one the place for a good offense number six clay the lottery late in your draft once you've moved past the players in your roster that are solid starters keke backups at a central spots start chasing upside whether it's a rookie fully believe that expand later in the season or player who has flashed in small doses but it doesn't yet have a full season resume boasts use your later round picks wise rule number seven be selective drafting handcuffs. That's the term used to describe a player. Who's a backup central starter that would carry value leeann. The event it said starter suffered injury got that might say a few draft todd gurley life exciting rookie darrell henderson to rule number eight for details man. This may sound silly but always make sure you know the scoring rules of the leak if you played at p._r. Quarterback league one hundred yards bonuses you naming. Make sure you know you've signed up. Keep an eye on fight. Don't get too bogged down by them because remember the team. New draft is not going to be the team you feel by midseason rule number nine no the room as best you can when and you're playing a lead the continues year-over-year just pick up on the tendencies of your opponent's friends be on the lookout for trends is any edge can gain maps most host of all have fun to get in the game go to e._s._p._n. Dot com slash f._m. L. or download the e._s._p._n. Fantasy app now fantasy conversation here are fantasy football analysts might clay gave us a benchmark numbers predictions for different star players in two thousand nineteen nineteen all of them quarterbacks in this case. I'm gonna give you the predictions and you tell me do think we will see more or less and it starts patrick mahomes more or less than thirty seven seven total touchdowns chris thanksgiving or are. We going full season. I am saying moore. Did anybody see the first pass this kid through preseason last week. The tribes kelsey elsie <hes> everybody is back on this offense for the most part skill position wise the ad mccoll hardman and i just don't see this kid not getting fifty fifty ish touchdowns again this year. He's prime for another big year. He threw fifty alone last year. This is total touchdowns. Obviously have to be concerned. I guess about injury but that seems like a very low number number. Let's try this dak prescott more or less than twenty five passing touchdown. I'm going to say less wide. Dax only gone twenty two twenty two and twenty three <unk> touchdowns in his first three years respectively. Also this is a staff that is coaching for their jobs. What do you do when you're back against the wall. You go with what you're comfortable with you. Go with what you know. You're going to get results from and that's this run game. So when push comes to shove i think they're going to rely more on zeke deck deck level goodyear but down in those zones going to rely on zeke because they know they need to win games running the football next. Let's go to the number one overall pick and this is an interesting one to me tyler murray more or less than one hundred and ten and rushing attempts total so that averages out to about eight per game more or less. I'm going more. My initial reaction was less but when you look back at last year two hundred and forty carries i in fourteen games in oklahoma and then like cam newton in r._g. Three in the mark jackson has rookies. They all had over hundred carries themselves to why go again over one hundred and ten is that offensive is could be great so i think there's going to be some scramble opportunity. Maybe not a design run and to do anticipate some n._f._l. Defense is confusing him at some times to force him to get outside and maybe have some run. That's a lot of hits for a guy with his frame. You're gonna get ahead one more ally manning more or less than thirteen starts. I'm going to go less but my reasoning is not going to be ally manning his poor play. I do believe he's he's going to have a solid year and he's showed that a little bit at the back end of last year my concern for eli not getting their defense going to be really bad and i believe that this team's going to struggle and so they're going to be forced at some point to get daniel jones on the field but i don't think it's going to be 'cause allies playing terrible football or some things to keep in mind as you feel your fantasy roster and more coming up. When might we see antonio. Brown back on the field should a raider fan be feeling about the possibility of more the drama. There's developing news this morning. We're on it next. Get up on e._s._p._n. He'll gates here. Have you heard of the e._s._p._n. 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NFL Week 15 Overreaction Monday

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Oh this could be the difference between what in the NFC Western ride. The snap clock starts bad roads. In Zone Hooper touchdown at Austin Austin Hooper the touchdown TAT's Shanahan can't believe it. Marshall Harris is saying that ball hit the ground. This'll be discussing here because this looks like this bowl comes. CBS Lose at the end. This Park Avenue and river on it was called a touchdown. Boy I don't know here. What are the ground is incomplete? That land is GonNa have one more shot last play of the game throwing crossing route. I I don't think he got in tackling Chai that should be. This is going to be something. Komo News Atlanta's good a win gable the final play and there you go that Julio Oh Jones touchdown could have massive implications in the NFC playoff graceful for the touchdown. The niners were sixty five percent favorites to get home field advantage. According to our our football power index now that drops to forty four percent with the seahawks close behind saints packers also stole their Homefield. Chances go ups up with the forty niners law. So it's Monday. And what do we do. We overreact I'll say this. The forty niners offense is too inconsistent to win the Super Bowl. Ryan is overreact. Listen that's an overreaction for me we've watched this often it's progress throughout the season. It's been because Kyle Shanahan is fine ways to get Jimmy G.. Open looks and also get this running game going if you look at what went on yesterday. It was some defensive issues. You're missing to starting defensive bags missing. Tart also Richard Sherman. They also had a fumble by George Kiddo later late in the game and he's a guy you know you can count on most times. They're so for me. Obviously you want Jimmy G.. Eighty to play well week in week out. But there's going to be some inconsistencies. There this is a complete team with a very good. Hey coach so I expect them to fix these things and they can can win games down the stretch because they're so versatile offensively and also great on defense event. It's an overreaction for me I think it's a really good defense I agree with Ryan said I mean they. They lost the game could have been a different outcome with a couple of different things. Maybe some healthcare players. I also think we need to give Atlanta a little bit the credit because Atlanta team that since their bye week has been hard for basically. Everybody takes they've done a really good job. This is pro football. You know there are very few teams that You know aren't competitive. And I would not put the Falcons in that group is facing just looked at the place that Julio Humaidan football game. You're defending has good of a wide receiver you'll see in the NFL so okay. It's a disappointing loss. Because of the swing for the forty niners. It'll be a one of the five seat obviously brutal. Yeah I mean if they learned that way but at the same time I think you also have to look at what Atlanta's has done take that into consideration when you look at this loss me I don't mean to cut you. Look at what this team has done. You beat the saints at home. And you beat the San Francisco for by came back as I different the pass rush. Yeah we're going to review a little bit more about Dan Quinn. The head goes to the balance of what he's done. Since he's restructure restructure. The staff with that Falcons team. In that Falcons defense specifically but I'd say it's an overreaction because the forty nine I'm never going to worry about Shanahan's off it yeah I do think you know we we can wonder about Jimmy Garoppolo now and then but he met read is GonNa come back one of the running backs at some point. They're going to get all hands on deck and defense. Yep We we forget. The defense actually helps an off field position time of possession things like that so therefore I am not. I'm not concerned about them. Yes do you want to buy because it gives you one less game have an injury or injuries but I think the forty niners will be very much in the in very competitive and I mean you we look at this team and obviously when you see what happens yesterday. It's kind of alarming like you said because you drop from one to five but also think about this team's three losses you lose because you have a rookie field goal kicker. WHO's a backup or who you just Missouri Kip kick against the Seattle seahawks? You lose to. Julio Jones and Atlanta Falcons here and then the most accurate Gary Kicker of all the time beats you on the road in Baltimore. This is a very good team that has lost some really close games. We haven't seen him taken to the woodshed at all this year. So Oh to say. This offense isn't good because of daylight yesterday. Just isn't cool. Also they've been close games. Both all three of those losses came down to the last minute. So it's just been in some ways fluke doc situations having said that that can be all the difference in the playoffs. Yeah so You know because we talked about Nubia. In Austin Hooper. Play that hit the ground. They notified that touchdown. Whoa there was some people looking at it and I'm like I I think the balls on his foot you know like yeah? It was moving but I think we I don't not sure it ever hit the ground surprise but I will say this for as much criticism as we've given our river on and the League office. I'm reviews I think if that game had ended on awesome hooper touchdown. I think we'd be talking about that a whole lot today. I think the fact that the and they got it right and who Jones because remember the on field officials not called it. So you know you have to. That was I liked the way it finished. Going to. Finish with the Falcons score. Yeah I think I think that's a fair assessment as well we move onto the cowboys where there's no doubt they're saying thank you with equal Elliott. Today he had a hundred and three rushing yards early in the second half finished with the hundred and sixty total yards to go along with two touchdowns as the cowboys. He's embarrassed the rams they now face all important divisional rematch with the eagles. That will possibly quite probably will decide that division. Here's Jerry Jones and Dak Prescott after the game. Just what the golden get you out of. Whatever you're in and I must say I guess we'll have to get me a new coin flip Colorado no seriously really. Are they proud. Because that does renewed teams Confidence in its work. This one was richly deserved. Urban Kimbler good momentum is a dangerous thing and it's about getting it on our side and We've got a bill to mate simple as that. We're not we're still not where we WANNA being we. We haven't necessarily peaked but we're headed in the right direction and we just gotta continue to building better so the cowboys hang onto the lead in the NFC thanks to their head to had win over the Eagles in week. Seven Dallas can clinch with a win in Philadelphia on Sunday. That would make the cowboys to first team to repeat as NFC Z.. East Champs since two thousand and four overreaction. Monday continues with this. The Cowboys Will Win The NFC East Gentlemen. This is not an overreaction and it's not necessarily about the cowboys. Although the team that showed up yesterday was the team that Jerry Jones had been expecting all all season long. This is why he's been so upset with coaching upset with losing games. He expects to win because he believed that he put a roster together. That could do exactly what they did yesterday. But when you look at the Eagles in I think you have to give some credits Carson Wentz in what he's found a way to do against the Philadelphia Eagles and the Washington redskins no matter what to say about those two teams the Philadelphia Eagles are depleted. He threw a touchdown to an ex quarterback who was playing in a different lead who was described this year. Greg Ward who has who had to make a great place to catch over Josh Norman. WHO's a pro bowler in his career? So what that team has done is great. But the reason it's so impressive is because their depleted and they have the secondary that hasn't played well all season so as much as the Dallas cowboys should win. Because they're the better roster the Philadelphia. Eagles are just playing with one hand tied behind their backs. It's not an overreaction or no it was when the NFC so you think they will. Cowboys is not an overreaction. Listen to Dallas Ah. They played great in the second quarter and their concerns. Were on defense if you talked to them internally. They were really concerned about the defense scientists technique coordination between backhand in the front end and they got that straighten up the eagles as Ryan said are depleted group now. They're going to be at home but the cowboys. I think what was record cowboys had done quite well there. Lincoln finance together and under Jason Gear. So they're not go in there and play but they're the better team and yeah. Yeah I mean listen. The Eagles were down by fourteen at home to the New York giants a week ago and then yesterday you saw the rally against the redskins and it's because Carson wentz answered answered the bell at the very moment he needed to. It's not an overreaction. I agree with both of you guys. I think the other aspect of it is more. You said the better team. I would agree with that and I think when they played their best football. Let's just be honest. They just ran the rams off field. Yeah the rams have been up and down all season long but you know all we talk about is how Aaron dolls the best defensive player in the League and how they got other guys in their front and they embarrass them yesterday to backs combined gopher over you know about two hundred fifty yards like that's an embarrassment and the national football so you you know I I just I look at what they can be when they are playing well running the football they have good players on defense. I I just. I'd have a quarterback at the beginning of the season. People are talking about well maybe he's playing an MVP level. I think can be really good. If this really in fact is momentum trump you know to kind of propel them into the postseason. I think they're dangerous team in the postseason because it'd be hosting winning the Division in your host playoff game and he's got to get a mouthful of that run game. That could be a problem for just about anybody in next week. When they lose to the Eagles next month we'll be talking about different different cities? It's been tough. Look they get into wins you talking about a championship. I mean you just. You just don't know what the team that has that kind of talent they could get hot. And then you talk about Jason Garrett. That's for another time but keep his job. Won't we already had it gone. But you never know. Drew brees will look to settings the other record on the Monday night stage in two thousand eleven. He broke Dan Marino's single season passing record. With a nine yard touchdown to Darren sproles in the fourth quarter last season. He broke Peyton Manning's all time passing record when he hit trade. Kwame Smith for a sixty two yard score and now three touchdowns sounds away from breaking manning's all time record. That could mean another Monday. Milestone moment and who will be there. Lisa saulters from the Mercedes Benz superdome Super Dome and Lisa. The saints can stay in the conversation for a postseason by with a win tonight. Do you get the sense. They've been able to move on quickly from that loss in the wild wild showdown with San Francisco last Sunday. Yeah when do you really do Sean. Payton said last week's game against the forty niners felt like a playoff game and felt like the number one seed in the NFC NFC was on the line because it Kinda was now in the three spot. Payton said yes. It was a difficult loss but he said he told his players. We're GONNA play in bigger games than and that one and we just might see the forty niners again so we gotta move on Drew brees and the offense put forty six points on the board last week. But the Saints Defense gave about forty eight a unit that until last week had really been the team's backbone for much of the Season Defensive End Cam Jordan said it was back to basics for the this week in practice. The challenge has been made for our defense. He said coaches to players players two players. This is a full blown respond week for the defense. He said we'll see if the D. does respond. It's also an elimination game for the colts. Their best offensive weapon T. Y.. Hilton has not played since week. Twelve with a calf injury Andre. What is his status Lisa for tonight? Yeah when he's GonNa play and that's certainly good news for Indianapolis T Y Hilton. His miss six games this season and the culture one in five in in those games he hasn't played since we twelve because of a calf injury and head coach. Frank Right said he wasn't going to play Hilton until he was one hundred percent right told us last night that though Hilton was limited in practice this week he was able to go at full speed and is fully healthy. Colts quarterback Jacoby. Oh be percents at. He's pretty sure that teams have different. Defensive plans for playing against them based on whether Hilton is playing or not he just commands that type of respect. And he's right. Wendy Wendy Hilton's career average of fifteen point six yards. A catch is third highest in the League among active players. Lisa thank you. We'll check back in shortly for the a cold's We mentioned this but they absolutely need a win to keep their playoff hopes alive. They are eliminated with one more loss on the other. Hand The saints to win to keep pace in the race for home-field advantage in the NFC with the seahawks packers niners all sitting at eleven and three one big key. Clearly for indies defense. Tonight we'll be keeping the league's leading receiver. Michael Thomas in check is the colts secondary. Have what it takes to have a plan to do something differently than quite quite honestly basically what happened is done Michael. Thomas already is over one hundred catches season. The next closest leading receiver for the Saints is Ted Ginn August Twenty eight receptors like that. That's incredible it just goes to show you how much of their passing attack rolls through Michael Thomas which means you know we we. We praise Bill Belichick when he takes a guy. You know out of a game plan. When that's their number one guy make somebody else? Beat you. Don't get beat by what the team does. Best best has not been the same. I don't know if it's a quad injury. What's been what's ailing him? But he hasn't been the same and so the everything basically has run through Michael Thomas us. If I'm the colts I'm doing everything I can to double him as many times as I can throughout the game so that he doesn't do what he's done all season long for me it's about the other side of the ball and the New Orleans Saints Defense when Teddy Bridgewater was the quarterback of this team. They go on to run because the defense played extremely. Well they may play on special may okay please on special teams and Michael Thomas. Teddy Bridgewater found ways to make enough place to win. Game sits the Atlanta Falcons. This defense hasn't been the same. Michelle Marshon Lattimore. Latimore goes out in that game. Julio Jones gets rolling and they lose go to Carolina Carolina puts up they play against Carolina. Carolina puts up thirty one against this team as well and you give up almost fifty to this effort Cisco Forty niners. This defense needs to figure out a way to get back to playing high level football because when they won the super bowl which Sean Payton it drew brees. It was because of defense when they played extremely. Well it's been because the defense has excelled and brought up brought something different to the team other than just drew brees doing everything they need to get back to that if they want to compete with some of these great teams in the NFC Bingo. Because there's so much focus on drew brees the Michael Thomas. That's all anybody talks about that defense. I think that was that was the unit gave Sean Payton in the organization. The confidence factor that they could get no super bowl but they have lost in the last few weeks sheldon rankings. Former number one pick on the defensive line and Marcus Davenport with year a pass rusher. That's why I say everybody's pay attention to the waiver. Wire today Terrell suggs. We'll find out which team put in a claim for him. He's going to be more than one team. We all know he would like to go to the Baltimore Ravens but their last waiver order in terms of pick claims the the saints with pick before them and sucks could probably help them out five and a half sacks and four forced fumbles with cardinals. He wants to go to the Ravens. He doesn't get his choice in this. He's not an expensive pickup. But I think somebody before even the saints Make their claim We'll we'll probably claim to ourselves and have them help. That's what the Saints Are Missing Missing Right now. And they can't get that back. What is it what drew brees and Monday night? I think we'll see that record. Yes you think. Painting men video again the records. Yeah you peyton manning videos on Monday night. We'll see and we'll check back with Lisa saulters shortly bold statement saving money with GEICO's almost better better than watching football. Think about it when you're watching the game yelling at the quarterback to throw the ball throw it Williams is wide open. Why are you doing this to me? Use that rocket arm. Come on they. Don't listen to you but if you went into a GEICO office and yelled someone please help me save some money on car insurance. Everyone would to it except the intern. Because it's his first day and he doesn't doesn't even have a computer yet. See better switch and save with GEICO. It's almost better than sports. Five teams clinched playoff berths yesterday. The seahawks the packers and forty niners in the NFC the Patriots and the bills out of the AFC do not forget saints. Ravens and chiefs have already already punch their ticket to the postseason leaving four spots up for grabs. The Patriots pulled away in the second. Half against the Bengals on Sunday to snap their two game losing streak but all is not quite right. It's Tom Brady completely. Just thirty. Five percent of his passes to wide receivers none gaining more than fifteen yards that brings us to overreactions on this Monday as he often does. Mike Tannenbaum joins us. Tim Doesn't like it when you come back. Told me the more he asks when he had to go to. BCC thing they're all right. Listen we are going to let you start as I say say that the Patriots offense will prohibit another super bowl run. Is that an overreaction. I think that's a slight overreaction. The one name to keep an eye on is ankle Harry their first round pick. I really liked this guy coming out. He remind me a lot of Anquan. Boldin we still have chronologically. We've got to keep on. We have another six weeks ago. Here's a lot of practice time left and a lot of reps that he can get more comfortable with Tom Brady. He made a big play yesterday against natty and to me. He's the one explosive element that they can exploit on offense watch. Muhammad to new I think is best behind him. Julian Element looks beat up. But I think Harry difference maker. Yeah I I won't sit on the fence. The way might get it just. It's an overreaction but basically what you're saying Mike is that I do think that that ends up getting better. I think that it. They're just well enough coached that I think we'll see improvement. I think they're bigger issue. Outside of wide receiver has been the offense and I think Dante scarring Akia with you know. Potentially another six weeks of coaching. Those guys I think improves the play along the offensive line. I think that tossed mcdaniels does a good job of helping create offense when they need to be created. And you know when you look at New England England. The one thing that that really hasn't happened with them at of underperforming the quarterbacks not turning the football that's really the fastest way to lose. And so oh I think if you had a quarterback turn the ball over. He was playing like Philip rivers was playing like rivers. It'd be like yeah they're going to hold it also not eleven and three is breathing But there are eleven and three and so no. I don't think that it's I don't think it's going to get him out of Super Bowl. I won't be at. Yeah I mean I I mean I think. It's an overreaction. But in saying it's an overreaction in is not saying. I think they're a team. That's going to go to the super bowl but it's just hard to count on team. That's so well coached a team. That has so much experience on that side of the ball at the quarterback quarterback position and also with Josh mcdaniels being offensive coordinator. We Watch this team struggled through the Super Bowl offensively but find a way to win and I think complete team. It's not just about what they can do from an office standpoint and so when you play against the New England patriots you understand. You're going to have to beat them in all phases as of the game. Not just one and they'll find ways to make plays you see yesterday. Struggled throughout the first-half you get Gilead. come up with an interception. He comes up with the pick. Six and offense got rolling a little bit. Tom Brady does have to play better but in order to do that he also needs to be protected. I'm going on the Overreaction part on this one uh and it was the the Tom Brady's passed and kill. Harry opened my eyes a little bit. I said and four or five more weeks that may be a little more dynamic and the offensive line absolutely absolutely has to be better and Tom Brady like any quarterback and especially any forty two year old quarterback. We haven't seen many say they don't like to get hit But he still does a good job of taking the sack and not having many turnovers. You think they're going to get the six because they are the Patriots. It doesn't mean the Tom Brady has to play that Tom Brady level. Yeah well I saw Peyton manning when a super bowl in his last season where he wasn't Peyton manning we all knew but he understood what complimentary football mess John Elway same thing with Super Bowl. Ah John Elway is the same thing and I know this on the other side of the ball. Guess Default view more and all the players so I don't think the offense is going to hold him down. I'm not totally buying on the offense but I think knowing that team you have to give them the benefit of doubt that it's going to grow. It's going to get better aver another benefit of the doubt and the Football Iq. That Tom Brady has that comes with all these years. It can't compensate compensate for everything but it can certainly make a difference long of course with the head coach. That wasn't the only story of course about the Patriots over the weekend. Last week a story broke about a videography videography hired by the team reportedly following a patriots advance scout as part of a web series now the NFL has been investigating that footage wooded which we had not seen before now until Fox aired the tape on Sunday. Take a look in. This is a piece. This your sell me on your scalp. Yeah come on guys odds Erickson. I don't see the advance scout the footage. That's not trying to get some feel perspective that you can make that. That's why you would think you could perfect but I can delete this right if you the damage is done. My friend is the weekend who once again bye bye. Johnny gone Here's Roger Goodell has disciplined the Patriots twice before as the Commissioner. The two thousand seven spy gate scandal resulted in fines and the loss of a first round pick. And the two thousand fifteen deflategate punishment even harsher with Tom Brady serving a four-game suspension. In Two thousand sixteen. Here's our former patriot. Tedy Bruschi yesterday on Sunday. NFL countdown. Who I thought this was a good idea? They've denied it. and Bill said that he has nothing to do with craft productions and I know crash productions and there are separate part of the building but however craft production is under the umbrella which is the New England patriots so it looks bad with everything. Good that's going on with the organization this year in terms of the celebration of the NFL. One one hundred talking about Bill Belichick as one of the one of the best coaches of all time him and save in this week talking about their philosophies and why they're such coaches and then you get this in all well it does is open up that wound and open up that scab so everybody can just say they're cheaters once again. What were we thinking? I'm a member of the New England page for my entire career and I'm thinking what were you thinking that this was a good idea to bring in a camera crew. Still you want to do your job series. I've seen it with the video personnel with Jim Willett Waylon and the training staff there. Good little pizzas. Yes but this one. This was the wrong idea to do it. They weren't thinking they weren't thinking what it would proceed. How the optics were and I? Don't blame the League and I don't believe anyone out there. That reopens all of this stuff and give you an easy opportunity to call the New England Patriots cheaters because of all their success because the way it looks is terrible and I don't like the way it looks and I'm disappointed that someone didn't have the awareness in that organization not to go through and say wait a second. Maybe we shouldn't do this because it doesn't look good that he's former teammate. Tom Brady addressed the latest patriots controversy this morning on W. E. IN BOSTON. Yeah I don't think any player gave it one second thought so not something that you know. You're registered so he just move on man. It's there's a lot of distractions out there. And if you lose focusing on on your job and that's a really a waste of time so there's a lot of you know people out there that you know it's they. They can create distractions for us. But you know we just want to go out there and focus on what we can do and what our job is it is and try to go out there and play with us. We can't the investigation by the League is ongoing in the commissioner said. Last week they would not make any comment until they had all all the information more. Where are we now well? It's a very tight lipped. NFL League office and and they're telling everybody the same thing. I'm talking about teams. They're they're going to be comprehensive antsy so they say and there's not going to be any time line and you'll know probably about thirty minutes before they tell the teams Or tell the pages what the discipline discipline will be and the expectation. There will be disciplined Last week they got tape they were. We also saw yesterday. They already had all that. NFL security does the rest of the League office. They were in Dallas for the League meetings as you know and then they had labor negotiations so they really start crunching today this week. and so we'll see whether this goes fast There's no doubt that the Patriots have admitted. They admitted everything that we saw on that tape and Diana ever seen actually reported that conversation As well as just but that audio and video will energize this and energize in such a way that you understand why tedy Bruschi who's been called the perfect Patriot by bill check himself with so frustrated and hurt and thought. Yeah who thought this was a good idea and the league itself I do. I believe As Roger Goodell said history will be taken into account. The key thing is can they tie football operations in any way possible to the video offer and the production crew. That's the key and did the advance scout himself. And you know what advance scouts do Did he instruct them at all to to videotape. That'll it'll be a key to this as well Mike. You were a d. m. g. m. with the jets when A number of these situations involving New England were ongoing. What is your expectation for? Alternate what the League decides to to to kind of piggyback on what Mort said just to take you behind the curtains the way organizations work. You have football. You have business and these sort of things where you're trying to create pieces social media content video shows that's on the business side so on the football side we may have a very loose understanding getting of. Hey these are the three or four people were features on these are the general themes but bill bell checks the coach he's the GM he has doesn't have the time or the wherewithal to say. Hey what's going over there with a more specific with that said somebody on that side of the House has to know what the rules are made. Sure that their Follow carefully so there. There should be some sort of fine for this but this has nothing to do with football operations getting ready. Play the Bengals or the bills. It's a million miles apart the optics I get. It are bad ensure sure they didn't follow protocol but this has nothing to do with ultimately what everyone's concerned about did they have a competitive advantage and absolutely they didn't because this is again they were trying to capture for content for some of their online programming. The two of you see when you. I don't see necessarily anything that that helps a great deal. Obviously it was a a short snippet of the video more than anything tedy Bruschi because it was stupid but we are looking at the organization. And you understand. The history of your organization's defines the the accusations of cheating. You should know okay. This one might not be the one that we need to do and if we are going in to do it we need to do it. In a certain way so it was a it was a lack of organization. Wherewithal you have to be aware of the way that you are preceded and to go out there and do this or to have somebody who can actually say I didn't know I didn't understand the rule that is unacceptable? And now I'm a guy who's a Pittsburgh steeler and has been on the side of many fans ends believing that the New England patriots had cheated. I still believe that they cheat before. I don't think this time it was that situation. I don't think the football operations had anything to do with this but it is a huge black I. They will be punished and they should be It's a really bad sense of awareness teddy's right about that. I think a couple of things jump out to me terms of what you you see on the video. Is there a lot that you can glean from the video. No I don't believe there is especially with the coach to quarterback or coaches defensive play caller communication that exist in the NFL. Does that mean that signals no longer exist in the NFL. No that's not what it means. There are plenty of people that still signal and they'll signal adjustment so so you can get information like is it as vital as the actual play call. No but you can get information and you know taking the Patriots out of any time someone is cheating. There's just looking for some small advantage to help them to give them some type of an edge and I would just say this. I got my perspective. Most definitely was this probably. Was this. Do Your job feature and all of that is tight. As that shot is on the sideline that was surprising to me just plain and simple all surprising to the bengals security guy to be like wait a minute. That's not the field that is this tight as you can get on the sideline and that's what he said. That and there Stephen Even my last Monday night right. So I'm saying that is tight okay. And if he's been there for eighteen years he was working there when spy gate was going on. Aw right like there is a lot. And so the the the point that there's two houses and there's the business side and there's the football side Teddy said it. It's under the umbrella of the New England Patriots. Ah Part of it for for me when you look at. That is look I I it is look. They also did a feature on the equipment equipment out. You know what I mean. There was an element of that. We might not have been a great idea. Do something on on the cameraman or the people in the control room. That's what this type of series is the people that the fans the public. Just don't get to see what they do. Now let me let me just throw this out there. The previous operation two thousand seven spy gate. Whatever you want the name you gave it bill? Belichick admitted they were doing it. And he argued to the commissioner that there were within the rules and they weren't and he got punished for it in this situation. They went into the press. This box with three people. Two of them freelancers and one of them full-timer and somebody pointed out they set up a tripod and monitoring view of a bengals employees. Yeah and and they were. They were doing there any when he he wasn't gonNA shoot the advance scout the whole time but you do that in front of a Bengal security guy and the other one point. Somebody made me. He said if if you think bill belichick but ever let to freelance No damage shooter. Let me finish this. Let me finish a camera shooter and the audiotape be involved in one of the football operations. That's the key the football you're you don't know Bill Belichick. I know the guys involved in the original spy gate stuff. They weren't art long-term employees and they were they were but it wasn't like you know they were CIA level employees that they were trusting and so I think a lot of people that touch the operations from the video department to the equipment department and all of that stuff I think it would. It would surprise you. Look I do do I think do I think I think you're right. I think it was for their piece. But that doesn't mean there shouldn't be a punishment for videoing sideline when you're not allowed to do the camera. Keilor it's just a video and audio take or freelance guys could be doing something for us next week or CBS or NBC. Fox Is. That's why I don't. They would be. The biggest thing is though if you get caught robbing a bank two times and you hang out in the bank a lot. You can't say because you girl for a works there right. You're going to have to do your best the job to make sure you stay away from the bank to make sure you're not in any type of situation where somebody could say. You are trying to do the same thing again. And so just from an oversight should the better job to RC's point. This is so far from anything else that's happened in the past because again just to take you behind the scenes. The last thing those guys are worried about on the football side is oh who shooting. What this week? That's a million miles away from what they're my say that but if you're going to do a profile advance scout or you're you're GonNa do a profile on on assistant coaches it. There's no way to help us football. There's no there's no way that the head coach doesn't know that. Hey we're doing to do your job. Profile on the event Scout. There's no way that don't know that. But that's different than having the guy actually shoot your short but there's no shot that the head coach does not know that you're not that that they're doing WanNa do your job profile on an advance scout or on someone they know who it is. Tim Maybe get a list on a monthly basis. Hey these ten people these five families right but what I'm say as the attention to detail of what is allowed in the genre the actual contract somebody dropped the ball and didn't tell those what what the rules were and that's where they should should be fine. Put that again to me. Nothing to do with the competitive I think. I think there's two arguments here. There's a lot of folks I think we're all in agreement that say this was really not about a competitive football advantage. Nevertheless a rule was broken. And you can't have a reputation. As the most buttoned up detail. Oriented leaves no stone unturned organization. And then say oh. We miss that one within no. Oh you can't have it both ways to the quarterback who beat the Patriots twice in the superbowl including once at the end of that season manning perhaps playing his final giants home game. He got a standing ovation from teammates and fans at the end of this one and the game ball presented to him in the locker room. This guy's got many game balls. Let's give one more. He lied. Whoa it doesn't matter what the feeling is with the seasons going? There's not a better feeling than a win in the law through on a Sunday boy so I appreciate this one special. Let's keep it rolling right. I'll see ah I love that because I'm not sure I think he. He gave a day off more normally. Give the team on the. aww overreaction manning will play in the NFL next morning say Oh yes is. Tim pointed out last week. Louise's there's still some burning desire to play football. He loves playing football. But you have to have a place to play football so you think about three different places Tennessee. Titans what's going to happen with Ryan Tannehill. That's someplace I think. His wife Abby is from Nashville And then people have been talking about the Tampa Bay buccaneers. Well I I think James Is Winston is GonNa get a new franchise tag or some type of your deal. I think he's going to be in with a bit but the way he's playing lately and then one team playing tonight. Indianapolis Colts were eight and started. His career is brother. peyton Sodas Jacoby resets doing okay but that'd be a place where you can protect them but uh I don't think they've come to a conclusion yet undergo percents. I'M GONNA say over over reaction he's probably not going to be playing probably retirement the giants all right town. How about this one? Philip rivers will start for another team next season. We're rolling through SA- quarterback issues on overreacting. I'M GONNA say. This is not an overreaction because because I think he's a little bit like I think there's a desire to play. I think there's been some bad moments. I think there are plenty of good moments and I think that there's me enough. I think it'd be enough opening. I think there's going to be spots. Where listening but maybe it is? You Know James You you know in Tampa maybe it is Ryan Tannehill but In Tennessee but just think there's GonNa be spots that are that are trying to figure out the quarterback situation. I'm not sure sure it's going to be a great situation for Philip. Maybe doesn't because his family but I just watching him play. Some guy wants to keep playing their car. He will not be the raiders quarterback next year in in Las Vegas Ryan. No what I think. This is an overreaction. There's GonNa be a lot of change for this team in moving from Oakland to Las Vegas and I know that makes people think okay. Let's change the quarterback back moving a different direction. But when Darren cars protected when Josh Jacobs is running the ball well. He's a talented quarterback. And so it's going to depend on what they want to do. Understand standing won't lose a lot of money in letting Derek Carr Go. But he's a good football player. He's a quarterback that's had successfully Lee. He was on track to winning the MVP before hurt a few seasons ago is so they'll see what's on the board what's available for them at their draft pick or what's available and free agency and go from there but I can't say that right now you you just move on from Derek Carr because what will you get to replace them. And how good will they be quarterback joe growing trees. Mike Tannenbaum you know that. So take this one for the bucks lead to keep James Winston thin as their starting quarterback free agent. Advocacy's will be no fencing here. This is a massive overreacting. Don't do it please. Don't if job description number. One for quarterback is dependability. Weakened weak out James Winston doesn't have it he has great flash plays. He has great potential. But he's had a number four coaches coordinators head coaches. He turns the ball. Way Too much. If you WANNA be great in this league you cannot turn the ball where you talked about that earlier camp. That is a massive overreacted. The lights up the Dank scoreboard jerem bad bad which everybody seventy seven. That's how I think it's hard tack from Jamie's because as you say that you could find people that won't turn it over as much much of him because he turns it over more than anybody there. Isn't you can't say that everybody's going to put up points. The way he does or move the ball the way he does. And I believe that's tantalizing. I believe it's hard to you. Say you're just going to move on from that so I don't know if it's just cut and dry as Mike is making. He didn't have Mike Evans. Yesterday and Chris Garland was lost during the two best receivers. And he's still through for for woody through just to keep this. ESPN centric REX. Ryan Mark Sanchez. Here we would talk about the Great Mark Sanchez. Who Won Four Road Playoff Games? But he was the same player that can never get over the hump of turning the ball over and never threw for. This is Mark Sanchez. Never looked that good but James One I well. Let's go to. I heard you say done that too. Terrible good great great good. We'll get everybody fired that exactly what new on. NFL Live Vikings Nason reporter Courtney kroening reporting on Dalvin coach injury. Head coach. Mike Zimmer said Cook feels good today and noted that this new shoulder injury is one he can play through but it's too early to determine what kind of workload cook may have for Green Bay. An extra day obviously helps. We'll just have to see how the week goes. I here to help us do that. Chris Mortensen in the Domino's pre-game eight for the latest report. We'll start with urban Meyer. He was seen at the Redskins game yesterday. What does that mean heard the night before that he was at the Philadelphia Eagles Hotel just that was whereas accommodations were and then? I heard that he's been up. I don't Army Navy game or some other event but he came down to Washington. The I saw Daniel Snyder. But you know what he recruited and had dwayne Hassans as a quarterback Kerry maclaurin their receiver. He was somebody who recruited in had As well or at Ohio state and you saw them in the box with Alex Smith who was his former quarterback the University University of UTAH. And so I think he was really visiting people because he was in the area. That's my read on it and he has been interesting. He's been flirting in a little bit. He showed a chargers game this year breath he talked about the cowboys being a great job. now the Redskins and one of his best friends in the world is bill checked the Patriots. But I don't believe that he he's going to be the coach of the Washington Redskins Okay and it was just to see him healthy. Marvin Lewis will end up in Washington. Probably more likely than Turban Meyer. Okay I see all right. While we're talking about coaches Dan Quinn a big win. The Falcons over San Francisco. His job is one. We've talked about being in jeopardy. What's the saddest can this? The southern can't hurt well. There's been an assumption. That has he was this was for Dame Quinn but they played so well by when he made significant restructuring of a staff and he took where he was from the receivers job put them to the defensive side. Green more calls the third downs defense and so they are like second best. The third down defense since November and then in the red zone as linebacker coach WHO calls the first to douse and what's happened here? Is they've gone on this run among these two wins against the saints. Oh Yeah Great. News San Francisco yesterday and I don't think Arthur blank wants to fire Dan. Quinn and maybe they can maybe you can get some momentum here and get back some fans who might be disappointed by that but at the same time you are seeing. Some things happened with. Dan Been Been Willing to make those changes at a critical time during the bye week. And they are. They're paying off. They've been a different team. Really took him to the Super Bowl. You can say you lost. They Super Super Bowl. Larry Fitzgerald Senior tweeted this out on Sunday if today is my last after sixteen years card of cardinals game supporting and watching my son play in Arizona. I'm grateful for all the Arizona Fan support in helping loving and always supporting Mrs visits. Dad grew it. All who knows knows what the future has. Thank you all which begs the question. What is the latest in cal- Senior may have story I because he is a meeting he is a writer writer? He's a reporter calmness so to speak After the game junior acknowledged that he didn't know whether that would be his last home game so to speak and he said he's not going to be in it to try and pursue Jerry Rice's records he trails Jerry Rice at three major categories. So the cardinals want him back. He's actually leading receiver in receptions at the same time has a decision to make and he has a bright future either in part ownership front office or in media. Yeah there's there's no question about that he's done no matter what what venue he does have a bright future thank you. Packer sailed on to illuminate. The bears from playoff contention did on Sunday. Not The prettiest win with Green Bay picking up a season low twelve first downs and planning on each of its last five drives. Aaron Rodgers had this to say I don't know that we have the full respect of the entire league at this point based on some of our performances we're seven opening one at home and You know we have an inside track to see. Obviously we have an opportunity to wrap up the division next week like our chances like our football team High Ryan Clark. Take this for me overreaction. Monday the packers are the least respected teams in the NFL. This is an overreaction. I respect the bengals much less. I respect dolphins much less the New York giants. The New York jets understand with Aaron Rodgers the same but he also knows there's some truth to that because of the way they've lost to the Los Angeles chargers and the San Francisco Forty niners and some of the struggles. They've had while I will say this one. I agree with you. I and I would agree with the teams but I used to do a little bit overlook. Yeah we kind of seems like we're talking so much forty niners so much sane you know in Seattle a little bit and it's like elected to talk about the packers and the years they've had has it been pretty good we know. Yeah Yeah and I was just about to say at least for us today but apparently that's not the case. You have to go because you're going to be on sportscenter all right so you're very big. Yes show we're GONNA let go. We're not so we'll we well no matter what happens. It was nice to see I e Lie Man and get the win family waiting for him. Afterwards listen. We got one more game to go. Gentlemen Joe Kelly. I'm going with the New Orleans Saints. They're playing in the superdome there at home. It's going to be twenty seven seventeen. I believe that's a score that we'll see tonight. They're GONNA make sure who gets record. And I think this defense steps up please. Will against the team has been struggling in the past. And I think you're right about the record I agrees gets it as well. So what does he need. Three three means. I think they're going to score points as they beat thirty one. I don't remember my score. Twinning we're GonNa make it a twenty seven. I think he'll throw three. So we'll see. Sportscenter is next Hannah. The storm and Keith Olbermann. We'll see you back here tomorrow by everybody.

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Week 15 Preview, Patriots/Bengals Scandal, The Art of Coaching, CFB Playoffs

The GM Shuffle

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Week 15 Preview, Patriots/Bengals Scandal, The Art of Coaching, CFB Playoffs

"It's always a good week. Gm Shampoo and Mike is upsetting people on twitter social media so nice little back and forth with Scott Hanson at heart. You are I feel like you're lineman right. You like the mix it up a little bit on the line right. Let's get down and dirty. I wasn't bitter and I. It wasn't angry I was just making a point like I think you you know. It's the role right. I mean I was just making a point like I wasn't angry. I'm really happy I'm not. I mean I like Scott. I'm delighted but I don't need his commentary on the place election in question coaches. That's all I was trying to say. It's a little bit like stay in your lane. No your lane look. There's a great saying you know farm your own land. You know when you know what you are. I wasn't bitter but I mean you know when you when you're sitting there second guessing the guy's probably going to go in the hall of fame because he's not challenging something. You might be wrong. He just might be wrong. I mean I think Sean Payton those a little bit more a little bit. You know you who insulted him a little bit. Yeah you're insulting them a little bit. I did somebody felt a little bit. Yes you did yes you did. Let's get the attention of break down the game by the way my guys thirty nine Nineteen Keno One with picks. Okay thirty nine thousand nine hundred if you're doubling your wins and losses. That's pretty frigging good. I know people are like where do you give your picks out just listened to the PODCASTS. At this Thursday's I as a half hour. We're not gonNA take too much time. Just listen to and you know what I've been fortunate. I've been lucky I've been doing these. Power rankings so it takes the emotion out of it. I love. It's just it's cold ruthless logic. which will win you? Money to the topic at Hand New England Patriots Coach Bill Belichick reiterating Tuesday morning. He had no knowledge a production crew filming the Bengals side during Sunday's game against the browns would spurred an NFL investigation ballot check said conference call. I mean I had no idea what it was about then and you know I got an explanation. I think the organization released that explanation or something similar to that. That's really all I know about it. NFL Network Ian Rapoport reported. The New England was approved by the browns for a video offer to be credentialed to shoot a behind the scenes piece on an advance scout as part of their. Do Your job video series. Mike you know the pats history surly your ties the Patriots People here this all those pages cheating again. What's your take on this? You know. I think there's really. It's exactly what the coach said. I mean what people don't almost standards so craft has craft productions which is his production company and he has people that actually work for the website and they produce things and obviously this do your jobs the video series. They produce there in the stadium but they're nowhere near the football department and they are no way connected to the football department and anybody. That's it's an works in. There has nothing to do that. Video people have nothing to do with the video people that work in in the Patriots handle the tape and I think they hired people it it wasn't they brought their own crew. I thought they hired Cleveland people to come in there and help them. They had a production guy so for me. I think it's a no story. I think that clearly this if they violated anything it's because they violated it through the craft production company which I think they did admit right. Yes and the football was gaining. No advantage like if you seriously think that you're gaining the advantage of filming the sideline first of all if I decided. Maybe I'll do it on my last podcast. If I announced to the world you know Bella check are caught for film and and all that stuff spy gate. Right if I decided to pull a Donnie BRASCO and turned state evidence here and get released. The names of the people who are notorious steelers of signals it goes in the NFL. It would probably be the number one episode recalled with a bang. You become Joseph deep still rat on everybody and I'm not a rat I'm not gonNA rat Rachi out but I'm just saying if I wanted to you know. There's some in the hall of fame that I could write out as well and I'm not mentioning names here. But and so that's why the radio communication became so important took away all that that ability to steal signals the ability to read lips. I mean now guys cover their mouths nobody really does I mean he claps but other than that. He doesn't talk so nobody's looks for him and the whole reality of it is all you're doing is is what personnel groups are on the field. That's the only thing the only thing in advance scout does when he goes to the game he sees who does the substitution. That's a he sees. How quickly they substitute when they snapped the ball? That's really important because when you WanNa do is when you're advanced counting a game you wanna be able to see when they step. They snapped the ball with eight seconds. Then you know in your game plan you want to be able to disguise your coverages to the eight second mark. Okay if they snap it quick. You know that you gotta disguise early if they snap but later you've got to so you practice that during the week so you get that from the game. Okay what else do you get you get substitution. You get the play clock that's it that's really yet. You're not getting anything else. I mean you could sit at home and watch the game you know I could sit at home and tell you when they're going to snap it. I watched the TV copy a games before we were play a team team because I could see it clearer. There's sometimes you get that close up. And what else do you get you watch the TV copies you know what else you watch. TV for the Snap Count Defensive Line coaches coaches watch the TV copies so they can hear blue ninety blue ninety set and then they go they get the rhythm on account and that's why they watch TV copy. So what's all being made. What's being gleaned? Leanne from the press box is really nothing. So essentially it's a non story and like you said. Belgium himself was like listen. I didn't know anything about it. Let's move on you think. The Patriots are cheating again because the people who don't like the Patriots. Okay fine but as you alluded. You're really not gaining anything by it. It's just information I know but you're right though. I mean in fairness to the people that are questioned us us. The Patriots have made their as my grandmother. Used to tell me you make your bed. You gotta lay in it right. They've made their bet Anytime something comes up like I think the most ridiculous Ellis Story and I'd like to hear your perspective of this deflate gate like I was in the building for deflate gate. Deflate Gate was a worldwide leader production. I thought it was is a worldwide leader through Ryan Grigson through the Ravens. I thought it was produced. Directed filmed by the worldwide leader because it became a story that was no story story that be all of a sudden manifested itself to where we lose a really good player a defensive Lineman in the first round and find money I remembered. Espn you couldn't talk enough whether you're doing radio TV. It's play the hits and Deflate Gate. I mean I was deflated talking about it every day. 'cause I'm like what really is the story and I went from thinking okay. This is not good. You shouldn't be inflating balls. Okay what does this mean. But the more I talked to former players particularly quarterbacks how much advantage is it is it an advantage China's yes or no yes okay. How much advantage is it not really okay? What exactly did this matter that? Oh we'll broke his phone. We didn't talk about Blah Blah Blah. The more I looked at the story Mike the more I was like I can't it. Was the classic mountain out of a molehill right. The Patriots Air and made a mistake. Absolutely Brady shouldn't have done it. Okay got it but when people were like give them a game ago Gimmick game suspension for this Manana. This is like a fine. Hey don't do it again Blah Blah Blah we move on when people were saying four-game it was crazy and then never convict convict them because the one St Somebody said to me well then. They said that o'brady wasn't cooperative. Define not cooperative. And why would you want to be operated situated. You want to say. Why would he give his phone away? Why why would he give his phone away to? Who knows what's on his phone with yourself? I mean who knows you know what I mean like seriously. You know. It's funny I wrote a column for the daily early coach and I think we have a hard time in this country really knowing what the truth was so day Bob Hope sitting at home in Palm Springs. He's ninety five years old having breakfast. I and he's got the television on and there's a news alert right and at Announces Bob Hope Stead. He's watching us. He's watching that. He's he's dead. Surreal moment right Serena he kind of chuckled it off. He thinks somebody screwed up. He doesn't think twice about an hour later. Dick Armey the representative of the House and Senate. He announces he sends his representative out there to talk about to the legislature. How Bob Hope's dead and how badly they feel? And what Bob Hope is a great American. What what he's done for this country going on the USO tours and all that stuff? Meanwhile Bob Hope's just finishing his muffin. Right he's assembling it for Judge Judy. The armchair can you see him in his row with his Walker. Now eight it takes eight hours eighty for the truth to come out like like at some point I think that story resonates in terms of what are we deal and then I went into the whole column about three levels of truth like what is really true and I think sometimes we report on things and I'm not talking to fake news politics here. This is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about. Do we really know what is true. Do we really understand the problem with us is we. Don't learn the truth until fifty years later. Operation Mongoose wasn't on our minds in sixty three and it is today when Kennedy and Cuba. We didn't realize that you know we took weapons out of Outta Turkey so they would take weapons out of Cuba. You know we just we take time to hear the truth and I think take a lot of this stuff in the. NFL's the same way and people love that expression you know. It's not the cover up the crime but I remember what the with deflategate. What's the cover up? He just broke his phone. Like whatever. Okay cover cover up to me and like involves espionage people fidora's the communists or something. What cover up? Yeah anyways make me smarter. Are The art of coaching. Speaking of belching the Patriots fasting staying documentary on. Hbo They always do terrific job with leaves driver of course narrating. If you haven't seen a check it out. I watched most of it. And it's bell chicken saving having in-depth conversation just about their lives and there's a lot that they share Mike as you know on both these guys. Their fathers influences on their careers their tenure with the browns and the nineties relationships with others. I mean you've got is he. He knew some Kirby Smart Josh mcdaniels many more a couple of things before I ask about your participation or your involvement with the documentary one. I love how they started. You know they meet and saving because Haig. Ah before you guys from the camera. Can we just have our checks before he gets to the cameras. Can we have a minute but actually still have one camera recording which is rather surreptitious. But they started talking ball like travers narrator makes a point because you would think they go. Hey we have a minute before we start recording. It's like an a personal level. Like oh how's Terry how the kids while Blah but no basically go three or four primarily defense is not bag. A little better tackling was an issue. It was amazing to me like these guys are football lifers all the time. It was very very cool and I think it's funny 'cause whenever he calls the house or you know obviously 'cause my cell phone now but not the house. There's been numerous times where millie will say to me. Do you guys ever talk anything but football and the answer is we might say. Hey Bill. How's Linda Dylan? Or How's this or House. Amanda how you know how Stephen and he might ask me how mic is. Course I mix on staff now stood up to ask me that but you know we talk about it but then we're right into we go right into it and I thought the ending of it when bill got up and bill wants to know about how. Oh He's playing that front. I thought that was symbolic of really. What their relationships about? I think there's two things I think there's two courses that HBO could've taken. Can I think they should've taken to me. As a writer. The writer in me felt like they didn't go down the right avenue. Just like education of coach the Halberstam Book. I didn't think. Oh Yeah I love Halberstam. Yeah I love how I am too but I thought he could shape that book differently. I think this really is a contrast of two men. That are fundamentally different. But yet philosophically the same in the perfect example. This was if you go back and watch it. Was Bill giving the meeting. The coaches meetings in I. I don't WanNa get fucking hit on these screens. Okay and then Nixon. They're talking about you. Know we got to play it and Knicks Room is. I mean it's it I swear to God you'd have have to have a maitre d' to get a table in that fucking room. I mean Nick Staff meeting it was probably you. GotTa you gotTa Duke. The Guy Three fifty just to get a table right bills room. There was nobody in it right. There's like eight people around the table. Look you know. And that's the contrast between the two and yet as diametrically different as they are they somehow come together and share air a universal respect for their knowledge. Now when they leave each other. There's probably I would say thirty percent that bill would never do that. That built nick does and it would be the same for neck. Because Bill's going to be you know not have a bunch of checks nick's going to have checks. Bill's GONNA WANNA be more you know but they have a lot of similarities Larry's and I think that that's what they missed on. I think they could touched on that. Much better yeah at one point. A Camera Melchior Sabe where they will both Croatian. So that's cool crazies out there. Maybe were related on some level maybe distant cousins Driven by fathers certainly demanding father's coaches we over Belgium's data. In fact that book Halberstam. Wrote Education of a coach is in many ways. A Father Lawrenson tail. Nick tells us that attachment baseball soccer everything. He was only coach sports so you can tell they come from a coaching tree so to speak but one element I really loved Mike and this is useful for anybody in any profession. Is that before you become. Whatever you become a person of stature in your profession you have to put in the grunt work? There are no shortcuts and that story that saving Intel's about when early on we starting making no money needed to splice taped together to watch the defense and Belgium's starts given that knowing smile and laughing along like you don't understand how easy you just today to breakdown film back then you had to really love it. It really wanted and no matter what your job is your literature to Cap Yoder's win an Oscar at some point these guys all grind in their lives out and I thought that was very anybody who's ever coached you note. Haven't making peanuts when you start in football. There's an level where you are a grunt and you're gonNA take it and if you can persevere you'll become uh-huh someone and for both of those guys those memories and those moments never left them. It feels like no and they. They've they still impact to this day. I think what we see is like like I'm not picking on Kalam Delamore but what you guys like Kelly Moore or even Byron left which these guys that are ex players. Because they've played you know people think they know the game right and they really haven't done their ten thousand hours. They haven't done that grunt work and you could say well more was a GAAP DALLAS. I'm talking about grunt work. I'm not talking about picking somebody me up at the airport. I'll tell you about doing the pads for for days upon days. I'm talking about understand the the philosophy the reasons why people do things and we've missed stat tremendously. We don't have very many people like nick and bill that start out that way. You know nick now. Bill does and his program you know my son started personnel. You Know No. He moved into coaching and then he left now he stayed in coaching. But you start as a grat in my kids that that's one of the things that I want them to do is start on the ground you gotta learn the basics basics and it goes to the ten thousand hour rule but it also goes to what I wrote about in gridiron genius which is springsteen's ability to play born to run the same way whether it's the first time or the twenty seven hundred time you gotTa love what you're doing and those two guys you know. I think it was fairly obvious that no matter how much they win no matter how many you know what year it is they love the work. They love the work. The work is what would drive them you know and they have personal freedom because the work allows them mm to keep doing it. If you took the work away like my father's ninety three years old. He retired finally. We got him to stop cutting here barbershop. Mike finally stopped cutting hair almost more seventy years of cutting hair. He loved the work he loved the work. You know he loved the socialness of it. All He loved the work in Bella check in and save and loved loved the work and no matter what happens. You can't take that away from its expression if you love what you do you'll never work a day in your life fervor cool. Belgium can save and curly on. Hbo Stay a tune when we come back a surging bears team taking on the role. Division rival the Green Bay packers will preview that game and a few other key. NFC matchups after the break right here on GM shuffle this winter trade in coal commodities. Go to the gym for live. Total body training reading in your home with Peleton tread with classes and training programs like running strength cardio walking and more you could always find new ways to challenge yourself and trust me this. This is not another treadmill. The New York Times has Peleton. Trade is like having a personal trainer. Come to your house whenever you like. And it's true runner's world a gorgeous Hip New York City. Jim Jim in the comfort of your own home. 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Taking the packers at Lambeau when the great matches biking all football you know. One of the great scenes in that Art of coaching is when Bella check talks what about when he gets on the airplane and he sees after game and everybody's lost and he sees all the coaches looking at their videos. And really you know. We got a tackle better. We gotta do something that reminds me of the bears and you know like look. Give Mitchell all the credit in the world right. He's played good the last two weeks but he's played against really bad teams. Like what Bella checks trying to tell the people as as you got to figure out why you win why you lose and it's not on the computer it's not in the stats like it's the art of seeing as much as coaching. And I think that scene is symbolic of this game here. Chicago Green Bay Look Trubisky. Played really well but he hasn't played against a team. That truly truly is a very good defensive team and not that Green. Bay's a great defensive team by no means at all but Green Bay GonNa be complicating. Green Bay is GONNA move people around re-based GonNa try to take away some things things I mean. They held him the three points. He's really never played well in Green Bay up there you know. Last year they won a game up there but the reality I think they're one in four. Since he's been there against against the packers and one and two on the road up there for me in my power rankings. I'm not picking this game so I'm not recommending it but for me in the power rankings. It's Chicago all the way. Take the points points I have. The line should be three and the south point you get four and a half so you gotta take the bears in this game you know and so I think that's the play but I think the part I really. They wanted to talk about. Why we're talking about this game is is? I think it's really important when you watch a player who's he playing against level of competition matters. And why is he playing good good. And why wasn't he playing good before I think that's the fundamental question is running the ball more. Will he run the ball in Green Bay that remains to be seen. Aaron Rodgers is seventeen and five in his career as a starter versus the bears. So he's always had their number and he's also got twenty three to two touchdown interception ratio this season which is incredible third-highest NFL history pursue this for trubisky numbers. Don't lie one through twelve. He had a total of ten touchdowns six picks and eighty passer rating last two weeks six touchdowns two picks anna the water and sixteen passer rating numbers Green Bay that remains to be seen. I think the other thing we have to really we haven't talked about this and it's kind of like because they're ten and three we don't. We haven't addressed it but Aaron Rodgers. The last five weeks hasn't been great. He averages six point two two yards per attempt. That's lower than what what Mitchell has been doing six point two two. That's not typical. I mean when he was going to the super bowl he was at eight to you know so his numbers. He's now overall for the season seven four but he hasn't been as dynamic namic in the last few weeks and I think that's really why I lean towards Chicago again I'm not recommending that in my four but I lean towards Chicago and that's why I think the numbers say take Chicago all right to the game actually are picking Seattle's ten and three there are on the road against the five and eight panthers and Russell Wilson is first nine games as the MVP for me. One hundred in eighteen passer rating twenty two touchdowns one pick however Russell has lost four games. Four touchdowns four picks eighty two passer rating now. He faces that Carolina Defense Fence. Would you like in this one. I love Seattle here my line. I think it's the line should be seven and a half the line right now six. I think you've gotta get it. Now get it while at six. You know we gotta get them now. While we got the muscle you know and take it because I think this line is going to go up. I think Carolina Carolina struggling offensively. Seattle struggled struggled defensively to handle the run. I could see Seattle plan well in the first quarter but I think Seattle knows they need to stay more than ever with the rams. Plan the cowboys this week. I think it's a problem but I do. I like Russell Wilson on the road in a really good road team. They lost last week. I think they'll bounce back. I think the wind by a touchdown frankie contains lead by the way for those who didn't catch the reference from Mike. Now now won't get the muscle one of the thoughts. McCaffrey Mike how good he's like. We haven't talked a lot about him because he was five and eight. But McCaffrey's got a hundred more scrimmage yards in seven consecutive games. That's the longest active streak in football. We're Carolina be with a Christian. McCaffrey I don't know but I think Carolina's in really good shape. The more I hear about this owner the more this owners thoughtful. He's these measures twice. He cuts once. I think they're going to be in good shape. I really do. I think he's going to reshape the entire organization. He hasn't done that yet but I think he knows what the needs to do. And I think he's going to get the people in there to help them do it so I think there's hope for Carolina along the way all right big game for the Dallas cowboys after the Eagles who the stirring comeback on Monday the night football against the giants. It's now eagles and cowboys tie before they look ahead to next week's matchup Dallas at six and seven is at home to eight and five. La Rams pivotal game here for the rams if they want to make the playoffs because obviously if the cowboys the only way they're gonNA make us they win the division the Rams. They'RE GONNA have to make if they win the wild card cowboys Owens six versus versus teams currently above five hundred this season. They're six and one against teams below five hundred. Do they finally beat a good team. You know this is to me my number so this should be Dallas. Dallas should be favorite. They were to start the week they were and now all of a sudden Dallas went from three point two and a half point underdog to now they're going to get a point and a half. I mean you gotTa Take Galaxy Right. You have to take them you get an appointment. It's your home dog. I mean they've had ten days off. I mean here's the thing I like about the game for Dallas. There's no kidding around around. Wade Phillips is going to play cover one. It's not going to be complicated. He's GonNa rush five play cover one and you may not be able to get the ball Amari Cooper because Jalen Ramsey might take him out of the game but ought to be able to get the hell out of Troy Hill the other corner and if you can block the front. which the cowboys can you can make progress the other thing I like about this game? I like the cowboys front. Having ability to rush the passer I think the cowboys will play better defensively than have. I know. It'll be an easy game for golf in terms of who were where they are but I plan on the road with some crowd noise and if they can get after Goff a little little bit. I'm GonNa take the cowboys here. I may regret but my model is take them. So I'm just taking myself out of it. You mentioned the cowboys defense. The Rams Stevens they've allowed fifteen point four points per game since it's acquiring Jalen Ramsey in week seven. That's the second fuse the NFL these men better and Dak Prescott got to play better against a good team owned four versus top. Ten total defenses this season Philadelphia and Washington so the news for the Eagles is also jeffries out. How phrases by the way? My era was like Josh mccown was going to be a wide receiver on Monday. Night that's how bleak it was all the injuries of and as you've said time and time again no playmakers but I give Carson wentz credit. I thought they were down out and they came back to beat the giants. Now they take care of visit us on the road against a redskins team. Yeah and now I mean that line has come way down that lines down to four now so it was it was it started opened at five. It's down the four of you can get it at four. I'm all over Philly here. I think Philly's should be over touchdown favored in this game. Here's why I mean. The redskins have lost. Some players. Caravans going on I R. So they're off their defensive lines not going to be as impactful their offensive line struggles. They have no real way to throw the football. They're going to have a hard time block it and to run the ball. Strictly with just a Adrian in Peterson against an eagle team. I think it's going to be really hard and I think the eagles knowing how they played them the first time we'll match up much better. I think philly coming off that game you know. They played like crap even though every announcer in Philadelphia gave him as for the game. I mean they're Billingham the entire game when they went to comcast and they did the grades of all the players. Yeah the three guys up there a a in a such homers right anyway so I like Philly here. I think everybody that contrary and pick here is Washington. I just don't see it I think Washington's while those teams that plays good for a week they try to keep the game close but anytime I think you can get Washington less than a five points. I think you should go against them every time. Good news for the Eagles Defense Defense the redskins ranked last in the NFL. Fourteen and a half points per game the season Dwayne Hassans. There's no matter who it is that they really struggled to score points. Yeah I and I think the eagles will get the pressure on them and I think I the they're not gonNA throw the ball. I mean I don't think they're going to be able to throw the ball here so we'll see. I mean Philly's not a good road team. I'm a little nervous about this one but I'm going to go with it all right. Lastly a six and seven Tampa Bay buccaneers against three nine thousand. One Detroit Lions. Maybe Matt Patricia. Right now is coaching for his job. At this point Bo scarbrough Bono's football fifty or more rushing yards four consecutive games. He's been good for Detroit but Tampa stories. Jim Is Winston the turnover machine that he is he leads the NFL and giveaways this season with twenty twenty. Eight and Mike Evans won't play. But I liked Tampa here. I think this line should be five point. Tampa should be. I think tap played really. Well now I know they turn the ball over and I. It's risky but I'm going to have to go with them here because I think Detroit just has David Blau a quarterback. I think that's not going to matter. They lost Marvin Jones at wide receiver. This week I think Detroit's voight struggles defensively and this is a really good offensive team for the Tampa Bay Bucks. I think they can even the game. You know Detroit starts out ten nothing. Fourteen I think Tampa has got the ability to come back and they play better on the road for some reason plan indoors. I think I like Tampa here to win this game. Yeah they actually ranked third in the NFL in total offense and scoring offense. This season the escort twenty nine point one points per game so Tampa Bay actually does have a really good offense. Considering the fact they are a sub. 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I haven't felt the same hype though going into next year's draft that I have felt for borough. I'm just wondering who you guys think. It's the second best quarterback in the draft next year. The key is in the draft. Cause I think Trevor Lawrence's probably second best quarterback in football of course the star of the Clemson but I think just to her Braga with Oregon a case for Sam Eleanor occasions. Kostelic these guys. I'm going to go with Justin. Herbert you know big strong guy at Oregon. He's a senior. I think he fits the profile. Obviously to his injury hurts I still love Lawrence for next year. But Yeah I think after Joe Borough. I'll go with Herbert my. I'll go with Herbert too. I THINK JORDAN LAVA AT UTAH. State's really good. Although you know my my sense of this is is I think to should stay in school and other year I really do. I thought he was. You Know A. D. I thought he was impressive. Sitting there with Nick watching the tape I thought he was really you know we said. Hey I threw it here because the defensive back was turned. I thought he was really good in that not. I mean. It doesn't mean he's the second best quarterback but I think he's got to get healthy first. But you know I. I think Herbert the thing I worry about. Herbert's is just never see them. Let him play in the game. He doesn't really ever take over the game they always sprint them out. Do something and the fact is is that Oklahoma's the fourth team in this thing is really bad. I mean Utah. Oregon should have been the fourth team really but they screwed it up. We'll talk more about that in just a second but now time for the mail L.. Bag Tony in Ireland wants to know. My question is why no head coaches manage to win a super bowl with different franchises. Given the success of coaches and other professional sports how come it's more difficult in the NFL. Well you know it's funny. You Know Brian Billick wins. The superbowl can't get another job. You know it's weird right. Yeah like how is that you know and because people have a perception of Brian you know that he was more of a of a CEO than he was truly a head coach even though he was an offensive coordinator in the league. So you know. That's a really interesting question. I think it's hard to explain skies. Go like Bella. Check of didn't didn't have a winning record in Cleveland. A winning. You get second times but like Mike. McCarthy is Mike McCarthy Guy. Did you see that piece that they did on. NFL Network on Mike McCarthy how he's been working and studying stuff be interested to see like people talking about the flora would. His impact is on Green in bay. Rogers's numbers are pretty much identical to what he was last year with. McCarthy everybody bitched about his offense McCarthy's should get another one right well. He went another super bowl. I don't I don't know but I would think McCarthy will do a world of good for a place like Cleveland he would give him toughness he'd give them stability he'd give him an adult in the room. I mean Rahm Avera didn't win one. I could see him him. Get One too so I think it's a really good question. Tony I think. Sometimes guys that win super bowls like Barry Switzer. They've just done coached right. They just want to coach anymore by. Jeff Perlman's this book But the cowboys he's Barry Switzer. He says you know when the cowboys the Super Bowl. Nobody partied harder than Barry Switzer the stories in their own believable like it was the guy dafter so funny I mean. That's you know. And that was a day and age when when Barry was head coach at Oklahoma. That's me guys like Barry. John Robinson they weren't football guys they were. CEO guys they were just running programs. Nobody they were calling plays John Robinson on the headset is a college will preview it is. LSU Is Number One Ohio State Clemson and Oklahoma so Oklahoma gets in because they beat Baylor the big twelve championship game. Utah lost to Oregon in the PAC twelve championship game. Otherwise I think that you would have been at in Georgia loses to Lsu the SEC game. The sooners joined three unbeaten teams. Lsu Ohio State Clemson all look right. They all won the respect. It conference title Games it's going to be Lsu in Oklahoma in the Peach Bowl and Atlanta Ohio state is playing Clemson in the fiesta bowl. Both those games played on December twenty eighth and of Course Championship Game January thirteenth of the Super Bowl. Super Dome rather in New Orleans. I'm thrilled for Lsu. Mike I really hope Joe Burrow into doors Ronca keep this thing going and they can knock off Oklahoma. I have been hopefully win a national title. Yeah I mean look. I'm excited for two. I think it's great and the reality of it is is is Oklahoma. I think we're all learning a lot about Lincoln Riley here. How good of a coach is Lincoln Riley? I mean he's undermanned here when the program beat somebody one. Does he do the Goliath thing. When does he beat David? When does he you know he's not he's not at a sloppy school isn't like he's Utah? All this is his first foray in here. We're GONNA find out. I mean this is going to tell you a lot about how he sets up the game plan how he paces the game what he does differently. I think it's a really early good indication on what Lincoln Riley is going to be able to do and how he wants to play this game. He's not gonna be able to play. LSU The way he played Baylor he's not going to be able to play Lsu the way he played you know Kansas State. He's going to have to change what he does and he's going to have to teach manage the game in his head before he started practicing. This is how we WANNA play the Game Eh. You know and it's a little like bell check. Here's how we have to do it. And we got a practice tackling conditioning. All those things because when you play. LSU They're they're not going to. You can move the ball. There's no doubt but you don't WanNa get attract me just asked Alabama. Yeah it would have been. It's amazing to see Alabama not in college football. That's a rarity although without to a healthy obviously was a tough sledding. There for Nick Sabin all right. Lastly Thursday football five eight jets against the eleven into Ravens. Sam darnold against Lamar Jackson. It's great for football. The gallic the Mark Jackson everybody wants to see. Can you see the jets defense slow in this guy down especially on the road but yeah I mean the jets have a great run defense my power rankings. said the line should be fifteen the lines fifteen and it's going up to sixteen. I mean I think the untold story about the Ravens team is how good they play defensively. The last they haven't over twenty points since they started this win streak. I mean they've been really remarkable and how they've played and a lot of. That's Lamar control in the football. You know I mean look if Sam Darnold can make a few. I think the reality here is once Baltimore. Bigs you've played from behind the number one team in first half point differential now once they make you play from behind it becomes problematic. I would take the jets and the points. I'm not making this recommendation in but I would take the jets and the points but I think Baltimore winds. It'll be fun to at least see Lamar but I you know I got the jump channel tonight. I got the six or Celtics which the Abi angry the whole night and then yeah I got the flat back and forth the football and the other thing I wanna do is I want to watch the scene with the Irishman again with Joe Pesci. She's making salad. I think that's the greatest seen in the move to me. It's so good good like I bet. They shot that in one shot. Joe knows what he's doing this l.. Does he knows what he's doing behind account so subtle. They would've explained to me where the hell they were Why he was in some strange kitchen? Irishman it's interesting. How all everybody's doing their top five movies of Scorsese AC? But is it automatic that the Irishman gets in there. I don't know if it's automatic but listen I think raging bull taxi driver and Goodfellas or locks then it becomes a conversation of mean streets casino the Irishman and the Aviator Wolf Walsh. It depends on what era film. You're talking about but yeah it's being considered one of his best and it certainly the Golden Globe nominations sag awards. I mean it did very very well. Did you see the tweet. I re tweeted this week about the guy that ran into Joe Pesha Airport Mendez. Tell the story. So so a guy runs in the Joe Pesci at the airport and this little kid goes up to them. And says are you Joe Pesci. Now he must remember him from home alone or something like that right so the the guy. Yeah he says Joe Pesci asked the kid. Who's your favorite actor? And the kids smart enough to say Joe Patchy and she just classic Goumba takes takes out a water money and gives them a Ben Franklin right there on the spot this hair anything better than that really like. My mother's father came over from Italy. I mean spoke Oke knowingness blue eyed Italian. He always had to have a Ben Franklin in his pocket now. He didn't have any more than just that Ben Franklin but he always had to have Ben Franklin in this bucket a hundred within three dollars exactly when push us to Louis Lombardi the FBI agent. He says you know my best friend. He's in there. That's Ben Franklin. That's the truth right so I I thought that was a great story. It's like Pacino and Donnie BRASCO. And he's talking to Johnny Depp. Had address how to walk and he holds the money because he was on the outside. Come on let's go get a pair of pants like me. Well you you know it's funny From that movie right so I learned something from that movie so millie tune me into this so most Italians. We don't own wallets right. We have we have rubber for bands or money clip or money clip right money clips too cumbersome but it you're a true Goumba you're a true. You're a made guy if you're if you're rubber band. Dan is from the Broccoli at the supermarket. It's from the purple. It's from the per so when I go to supermarket I'm deadly in supermarkets like Milley's like kidding me shit all the time in their. Don't steal all those rubber bands because all my rubber bands of purple. 'cause I'm just hoping you know. I'm just hoping somebody's going to see me. Take out that wall and think I'm connected no pinky ring for me but the rubber bands so important. I'm going to go down a Mulberry Street. Check rubber bands like this two things. I've always wanted in life. I've always wanted to own donut diner but make it an office. That's really what I have a diner but set it up as looks like a diner. But that's where you work out of right and the other thing I've always wanted as a table. People like Clemenza the Godfather. I WANNA table in the kitchen. That's my own table. I think if I got those two things I've made it I mean I'm blessed to have four great grandsons. I love that yeah. I'm I'm blessed. I'm not complaining here how I'm not bitter and I'm not angry however that being said I would be too perks. I love to have a fat Clemenza one of the all-time great supporting characters. The when he pulls in there and it's a deleted scene and it's one of the greatest scenes of all time he pulls in there to have his dinner and they bring them out and they don't there's no the beautiful thing about it when he sits there when he he sits as fat ass and there's no words exchanged I why. There's no words exchanged like I want the sausage and peppers. No I want the tonys it no no no the plates. Just come they you just start come. I don't know why I was thinking about the other day when TESCO when they know. He's the one the tells Tommy Town. Can you get me off. Rolled Time's sake. And he can't do it. Sally he goes. Tell Mike I always liked uh-huh before you kill me. I didn't always like like. He's a good guy love it.

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The Cowboys are revived in sitting pretty in the NFC east. I'm gonna make Stephen is mad as he's ever been by telling him about Dallas. And then finally the bears defense continues to dominate with a helping hand from chase. Daniel how far can these monsters of the midway take them all that more in this hour? Let's get up starting right now. And starting at the end of your thanksgiving football with drew Brees in the saints hosting the falcons and Louis Riddick. We know about all these stars on New Orleans, but it was guys like Tommy Lee Lewis undrafted out of northern Illinois catching scheme schemes scheme. This tremendous play design against three deep covers and look when you guys that wide open. You can have me out that we'll maybe not me, but you can have anybody catching touchdown pass. Well, look and then the falcons move right down the field. And then look like they're going to tie the game. And then met wine. He clearly doesn't see this coming and the turnover on the three ball security. You talk about it all the time with quarterbacks in the pocket. Two hands on the ball. You know, test high just about so you don't get it taken away from you like that that's bad move on that run more New Orleans up ten three at this time. It's Austin Carr undrafted out of northwestern and the saints up seventeen they have everything in their in their arsenal as far as play design right there is this the sets in type of play. And then the falcons again, they look like they're driving. Two hundred eighty and then that happened all security, you gotta protect it with your life, especially when you're playing against a team is high powered as the saints that will make you pay when you give them more and more opportunities to red zone turnovers by the falcons while the game is a game. And you can't give New Orleans. Those opportunities second-half saints up two touchdowns. And here's another Dan Arnold undrafted out of Wisconsin plant Ville, I wish he could see in all twenty two withdrew digital poor free safety there the way he looked them up with that pump thing it is this indicative of hoping for why not one more here breeze. This time to Keith Kirkwood undrafted out of temple. He threw four touchdowns to four different undrafted players. Carved them up like a Turkey. If he will not have big night for Kamara not a big night for Michael Thomas, but a very impressive win for the New Orleans Saints who in every way, and they are celebrating this morning as you can see in the big easy in every way right now, they will like the best team in the NFL. We're having fun. We enjoy being around each other. We joy going to work. We work hard, man. When it's time to work, we work, and we understand that. It's the preparation or on the weekends the work during the week that allows us to go out and play this way on Sunday and play with the type of confidence we're playing with. It's fun to find different ways to win. Right. It's fun. When you come out and hey defense gets four turnovers and you have four undrafted guys catch touchdowns. Right. As fun because when is that, you know, been a while since then you had stuff happened. And so you just keep finding new ways to win. You keep finding guys that step up and make the plays. And then you begin to envision how this thing is going to look, you know, next week and the week after and just as you continue to build on what we've established. All right. So the saints established themselves firmly atop the NFC south. Now, we go to the NFC east Cowboys in scans in the first quarter. And their feeding Zeke this is where it all starts with this football team dominating the line of scrimmage, get Zeke going everything builds off of that. And that's exactly what they did. Yesterday. Never Twenty-one dropping twenty one dollars in the Salvation Army kettle second quarter Colt McCoy now on in place of the injured Alex Mathie at some very bad moments in this game. But here's a very good one Vernon Davis thing that keeps hope alive and watch the is that they have play makers like Vernon Davis that can make explosive plays. They just don't have enough of them. They don't get them consistently enough. The rest of this highlight like the game belongs to a Mari Cooper, forty yards in touch nets tremendous individual effort here. He makes the cornerback. Look silly on that little smasher out comes back inside. And then just turns on the jets. What's this something that you expected to see from him when they acquired him from over a little Marquel volts on the celebration there. And then he we go. Here's the big one nine. Yard catch and run. Yeah. This is a great throw by deck Prescott. Brought the people think he can't throw the football down the field. And then when Amari does after the after the cats is absolutely fantastic at the same time. Look Redskins secondary. You gotta be better than that. You can't have three guys surrounding receiver. Nobody layup finger on fourth quarter looking to put it away. And that he would do Dak Prescott. This one's all him. This is this is what you continue to be pasted deck because of his ability to make plays like this developed his game from the pocket really very the offense. You have yourself a quarterback. Cowboys win. Jumped off the bandwagon. Of course, it three or five, and you expect that, but I can tell you who didn't doubt ourselves who didn't think that we could do this. Or didn't think that we had the team has everybody in that locker room? That's all they really matters. And they say you really want to be a good team. You have to start rolling in November. And we just been focused, man. Standing tall with our backs against the wall, relentless, and you know, hopefully, we can keep this up. I wouldn't say that we've ever stopped having fun. But we're definitely having fun. We played our telephone but got enjoyed his and then get ready for the saints. So we saw the saints. And we saw the Cowboys these teams play next week. Actually, it's a Thursday game FBI likes New Orleans on the road giving them a sixty two percent chance to win that equates to a four point favorites for the rest of the NFC east feeling alive. Then we get to the NFC north the bears and a gutsy performance ninety hours removed from their previous game and playing without their starting quarterback chase. Daniel didn't even know wondering out on the field. Second quarter, though, he knew how to throw this. Touchdown. Look. This is a guy right here. Who knows this offense inside and out? It doesn't need a whole lot of reps. That's a great play. Call though, some people say it's a pit rela they've been running rub routes pick route for thirty years. So don't be surprised now it seems doing now they're trying to trickery here. They're gonna throw it back to chase. Daniel love this. No, no. I don't love Matt Nagy dumping couldn't say like that. He doesn't look very good. Don't do that. They looks a little better doing this. Finding to recall and wide open other great play does. I don't mean to cut you off there. But really it is Matt knows how to ski me up in the right area. They have the web. To do it and tastes as one of those guys again, he's the perfect backup doesn't need. Any rest comes in play great game like this. And then they turn it over their defense and their defense takes care of business. Any Jackson that's v defensive touchdown. The last two years. Tremendous preparation on the part of big band coordinator Eddie decks is going to the Pro Bowl. He may be. I pro I love their celebrations. And they would another here is this one ends it. The interception in the end zone by Kyle fuller and let the celebration continue in Chicago the bears of one five straight game. Our guys. There was never any especially coming into today. There could have been excuses. There could have been a lot of excuses and fills feel sorry for for themselves. They didn't do that. And you know, when you have that you're starting to learn as a head coach with this team who we are. And it's special. You know, the bears defense is good. Actually, it's better than you think. They're current defensive efficiency would be the second best by any team in the last ten years only the Jaguars of year ago were better and that team lead at halftime in the AFC championship game. So do not look Pasha cargo here. So three huge games all of the NFC yesterday with a lot of implications and three statement wins. What to you is the biggest story that came out of the day? Well, it would have to be Amari Cooper. Because of the fact that he finally showed you really in its totality. What he is individually as an athlete and as a wide receiver, and that is he is a guy who has everything is far as being able to win as a wide receiver, meaning he can win versus breast. He can win versus off. He can take this past turn into the long game. He can turn people inside out with his route running in the intermediate game. And if he dissent him down the field instead out run some of these corners and go up and win the jump all he can do that too. Although they don't do that with them very often. That's what I think is the biggest story now, I think the thing that will hold them back. We'll keep Amari from being what you saw yesterday or the Dallas cowboy coaches and their schematics as far as how they try to attack opponents. And that's not look I'm not trying to pile on. I know that's an imbo thing right now is which is the really blame coaching and say, look if you're not doing what the teaser doing. You're not doing the right things. Although there is some validity to being more diverse nowadays in what it is doing the defense. So, but I will say this look the Cowboys need to be a little bit more creative this kid if you put him in an office like Kansas City, like the Rams like the saints. I think he would absolutely just blow the roof off as far as what that would be. So I think the only thing that'll hold him back Cowboys themselves. So let him loose be creative helped him get open because you see he so do what he can do on his own Cowboys a little more of an old school offense. Right. They pan to what the offense of line. They're feeding Zeke the quarterback is making plays Cooper is young king plays Dallas right now look yesterday looking. But if you want to take next level, right? This is what you this is what you said because not only would help him it'll help their quarterback to and it will help Zeki equally. Look the reality of it. As I mentioned. In a moment ago. They get New Orleans next week New Orleans looks beatable right now. The Cowboys lose that game that whole division a live. The winner of giants eagles this weekend is very much alive in that NFC east. Right. More NFL as we continue. Meanwhile, a trio of college games that we get to here. Let's take a look at some of them that are on the docket today, including number nine central Florida taking on south Florida UCF is one twenty three straight. They've scored thirty points at every game during the win streak that is the second longest such streak in the AP poll era dating back to nineteen thirty six that's a huge game. Oklahoma in Morgantown top fifteen showdown spot in the big twelve title is at stake. And so perhaps is a lot of Heisman consideration for Karla Murray and will Greer or second and third respectively in this week's Heisman watch critical game for variety of reasons and then a top twenty showdown between Washington in Washington state in the apple Cup. The winner will advance the Pac twelve championship game to play Utah. Washington state has never made the conference. Championship game and seeking his first eleven win season. So the all huge games that's bring Jonathan Vilma back into the conversation here of all of those that we're looking at here, which in particular, John stands out to you. It's the apple Cup with Washington and Washington state. I mean, I have Washington state ahead of Oklahoma right now from what I've seen from both teams, particularly on the defensive side of the football. We know that Washington state can spin it with garner Menchu. We know that Oklahoma can spin it with Carla Murray, but Washington state had done on the defensive side. It's been so much better. And so much more stolid and consistent than we'll Oklahoma is done. So we're talking about the eye test and the playoff committee watching these two teams out of Washington state over Oklahoma. So this is by far the biggest game for Washington state. And for the Pac twelve I'm input UCF into that discussion quickly, then so you got central Florida got the big twelve teams, you got Washington state. They all need to win, and they probably all need help. If it was up to you. And those teams that we talking about here went out. Who do you put in? I would put Washington state in overall the teams over UCF or Oklahoma Suming Oklahoma wins out what I would do at UCF. It's had the group of five have their own playoff. Because the group of five the comed- said there's no way that UCF was going to get into the playoffs this year. They were ranked number twelve in the initial rankings too much had to happen for them. Even if they won out for them to make it into the playoffs. So they should have the group of five playoff semifinal a national championship. And then we already seen. They will have a parade. They will celebrate they will enjoy and they will be proud of their national championships. Let the group of five separate from the power five and have their own playoff. I'm Jay pretty good idea. I like it. And I I would agree with your point. If UCF doesn't get the chance having not lost a game in two years and beating Auburn in a bowl game. Then you'll right. No one is ever going to John stay with me about ten minutes from now Jonathan Vilma. We'll have much more on this weekend's action. There was one other story. I want to catch you up on. And that was the very scary situation that took. For the university of Washington band. One of their charter buses rolled on its side yesterday on an ICU stretch of interstate ninety is the band was in route to Pullman for this game as you can see from the photos of very scary scene. The state patrol spokesman said about forty to forty five students were taken to local hospitals. The reports are no serious injuries. The band members were fine though, obviously shaken up the band regrouped at a local elementary school. Where the residents brought them some thanksgiving dinner after a radio station put out a call. Okay. We'll take a short time out here coming on Alabama. Certainly does not need any extra motivation when taking on Auburn, but we will tell you why this year's iron bowl is even more important for their quarterback to Tongo by. Plus if you're were teams in the hunt for a spot in the college football playoff, you cannot get bitten by the upset bug. John Vilma will tell us which rate team is most vulnerable this weekend next. Art as we continue on get up. How about the Chicago Bears? We've been talking a lot about them since the trade for Khalil Mack that defense showing again yesterday, they are the real deal. Couple sacks. They hit Matt Stafford a lot to picks including pick six here for Eddie Jackson. They lead the league in turnover differential, obviously, their defense is really good. Let's talk. However, it's been bigger picture terms about the Chicago Bears team that to me is the gutsiest win of the NFL season their game on Sunday got flex to Sunday night. It's a huge divisional showdown against Minnesota. They should never have had to play that late Sunday game in the early game on Thursday. But what can you do that was the schedule? They do it without Maserati Mitch, that's right. And they get a win in the new Maserati myth. We didn't stutter. No. You know, what the front office greening for sure you brought this up. They deserve a ton of credit. It starts with the hiring of Matt Nagy. It starts them with Matt going out and constructing a coaching staff that right now is comprised of a bunch of tremendous tremendous teachers, and when you really. This on the defense decided particularly the most important thing. They did was retained victim GIO and make sure that he stayed there. Because the players have talked about the fact that they're gonna system now that they're very comfortable with that. Now, they just continue to learn a little bit more and more about it to the point where they can anticipate the kind of plays like you sell you say with any tax, which is they're so confident in what they're sinement is they play a step ahead. And what they're doing is not a fluke. It's a man covered situation. He talked about I believe post game. The fact that the formation deployment the way, the personnel, deployed. He thought that that was the route he was going to get. That's why he dumped the rod as quickly as he did. He saw him. Do it the week before against Kirk cousins? When he picked him up. He picked off a seven route and returned it for a touchdown. These are the kind of things that are born out of a coaching staff that right now is hitting on also. And there's that Ryan pace general manager has made all the right moves as far as from the top down again of getting Matt in the place mat as hired tremendous teachers, he now, and then you know, what there's there are tremendous coaches who are great on a blackboard or on a greaseboard when you're in a meeting. Room who can tell you can draw up all kinds of stuff that'll just blow you away. But then when they kind of get into the live action, greedy, they shrink and be. They almost forget all the things that they taught you this football team, this coaching staff doesn't do that all the information that they're giving their players the players are able to use in on game day when they need to adjust adjust. And right now the team is staying healthy knock on wood. And they're executing out of their minds right now. I don't think it's a fluke people point to their strength the schedule and say they've been beaten anybody they beat the Minnesota Vikings who a lot of people said was a runaway winner of then if north so look in two weeks, we'll find out because they're going to play the greatest team of all time the LA ramp that nobody can stop. Okay, nobody. So I'm McVeigh has reinvented. Look, I love these guys. I love the Rams, and I'm being facetious. But let's see what happens then. And then we'll see whether or not all the stuff that we're we're talking about right now really has some teeth because the way you beat this high flying fences, like the Rams you're not going to hold them to thirteen points. But your defense forces turnovers, maybe you put the ball in the end zone. Again, the bears of done five times defensively in this season. So they've been spectacular in that regard. I think the acquisition of colo- MAC both for what he's done on the field, and what sort of jolted the franchise. It's the best movie that was made by any chance. I didn't even mention that part of it. Because that's it's almost like it's almost like gravy on the top of a tremendous dinner already. I mean, he's he's he's like the on top. And he's an all pro maybe an MVP. Can I think for this holiday gravy was the baby was perfect analogy? All right. Let's let's go back to something else that happened actually yesterday on thanksgiving was not pretty at all this is the bowl ole miss and Mississippi State, and this is the end of the third quarter, by the way, let me point out that the clock has hit zero. So whatever happens on his plate doesn't count anyway. And what happens he was really ugly Lewis as you see what happened to you. You got you got AJ Brown into the end zone Jonathan Abraham and they're going to get into it. And then here, we go, you you never want to see this at any level of football. 'cause it escalates next thing. You know, you got literally. Both sidelines empty, really. I mean, you have these guys over here fighting and you see these your dawn at each other. Then punches thrown and then two other guys are fighting who really weren't too through through the punches in the first place sing God. Now, look now when you see police come on the field, you see coaches running around and they can't control their team either. You know, it's gotten out of that was ole miss coach, Matt Luke bear in mind that was all after a play that didn't even count. Here's how the officials round up ruling after the play. After the play of conduct on all from both teams. I've been covering sports thirty years. I'm not sure I've ever heard that specifically before there were several individuals who were disqualified in the end of the game ends up being Mississippi State thirty five to three she'll let me get John Vilma back in here. What was your reaction to what happened in the bowl there last night? Yeah. Absolutely ridiculous. When you look at ole miss your into almost into fourth quarter. And you haven't done anything. You haven't done you haven't been physical. You haven't stopped Mississippi State. They don't exactly what they weren't on you. And then all of a sudden now you wanna fight just take that onto the field score some points run the ball tackle somebody. You know, they always amazes me. How everyone wants to be extremely aggressive when you could just settle it right there on the field. You have no reason to be fighting. You're getting your butts will just go out there and play if you really are that angry. I was it was a bad scene. All the way around Jonathan wants through some weekend. Superlatives for the games this weekend. Let's start with this which game this weekend has the biggest implication on the college football playoff. Greenie. No doubt. It's gonna. The Ohio State versus Michigan northwestern. We'll be seeing them in a week get ready for that. So we have Dwayne Hassans right here where we're watching throw the ball. He has the most pressure on him. This is the biggest input playoff implication, Michigan wins. And they win the big ten championship game there in the playoff if stay wins. And they win the big ten championship game. It's not a done deal that they're going to be in the playoff. They may need some help from other teams you're looking at a Washington state possibly an Oklahoma possibly superseding them and getting into the playoffs. Instead. So this needs to be now a win for our state, but a dominant performance so that they can hang their hat on his signature victory and get away from that terrible loss at they had to Purdue. Yeah. Absolutely everything in the world is on the line there. What is the most interesting game this weekend? Well, I'm still going back to a house. They michigan. It's the most interesting game. There's so many storylines to the game. One thing I love watching his defense, and you have one side and Michigan is sending and playing great defense. And you have the other side who's not playing any. Defense. And you're saying what's wrong with Ohio State feet fence because they usually are very very good. And I remember beginning of the season talking about well, who's the most talented team. And what it said Ohio State to start the season. Not Michigan yet. Michigan's of one that's out playing everyone in the big ten right now. All right here to north western greeny. He likes to go at me on the northwestern. We'll get our chance and a week and a half. Meanwhile, who is on upset alert this weekend. Oh, we're going to go back out west to the apple Cup. Washington state's on upset alert. Because Washington state hasn't beat Washington and five tries. They haven't been them. They've lost eight hundred nine times that they played Washington is going to be the best defense that garner Menchu face. Washington state has to bitchy at issues scoring points. And Washington is one of the top ten scoring defense is in all the land. So if Washington state wants to get to somewhere, they've never gone to before they're going to have to do something. They've never done before which is beat Washington one time and these last six seasons. All right, John Vilma. Well done. Thank you. Stay with us towards the end of this hour. John will be back making his NFL picks along with Lewis and me looking ahead to the weekend. Meanwhile, also still coming here to the NFL's version of Washington that defense could not keep up with the Cowboys yesterday. Dallas staking a claim to the top of the division. But through the skins problem. Go even deeper get into that as we continue next. You know, those blink motion activated security cameras you hoped would go on sale. Just did is the blink black Friday cyber Monday sale with huge savings now through Monday. Blink cameras are motion activated when they detect someone snooping around you get an alert on your smartphone with an HD clip and blinks live feed option, let you monitor your home pets and package deliveries. Visit blinkprotect dot com slash radio. That's blinkprotect dot com slash radio or hit Amazon and search blink camera. Hi, welcome back to get up and the skins took one on the chin against the Cowboys yesterday. Allowing thirty one points four hundred four yards of offense losing by eight and losing control of the NFC east and their safety j swear injure not happy with his team's defensive performance. He was right after the game. Defense you love the game. We lost the game on two weeks in a row. Do you want to be a championship defense? You gotta hold it. Wait on your bit. There's gotta hold it. If you want to be a championship even want to be a regular defense don't mean list team. But head a championship defended, you know. We can we play good teams. That's why we don't get respect. That's a risk. We don't do. You know, we do to guarantee we get respect. So we only respect our see. Well, we get disrespected, you know, we don't want it to be gained. Right. He's got a point. And you take a look at what they have coming up here. Again, they get the eagles. And the giants these feel like winnable games and remember Dallas has to play New Orleans next week. So it's all still sort of sitting there for Washington. But as you listen to DJ put these swear in swearing what what did you hear there? What you see from their defense? Would you make them overall yesterday? He's exactly right. Look the defense is supposed to really carry this football team, especially with Alex Smith being out, and especially with the missing a lot of weapons on the perimeter as far as their ability to make explosive place. They just don't have it. Right. So special teams and defense has to pick up the slack. Well, when Zekiye Elliott is able to run the ball down your throat, they become two dimensional. They can use play action. And then they give up you know, what I'll tell you what when they gave up the big plays in the passing game. If take your it really really is disconcerting. Look, you see in some of these runs right now, whereas is exploiting some gaps and some scenes in this deep is because people aren't getting all blocks people aren't taking improper pursued angels, and more importantly people. Weren't tackling with any kind of thority yesterday. And then when you talk about here, I mean, you see you see it here over and over again on these highlights now, but when we get to the passing game in particular. That's what really started the bug me. Because I'll tell you this the Cowboys wide receivers were absolutely beaten the Redskins corners like a drum yesterday after the cat people were taking just absolutely horrific pursuit angles. And they didn't look like they had any team Sweden's in the back in there. I'll tell you this ha ha Clinton Dix is one of the guys who I thought would really help solidify this team in the middle of the field him in swearing together. He looked terrible yesterday on both of those long plays that Mark Cooper had. Ha was right there at the point of attack and didn't do anything poor angles. Then couldn't make up because he doesn't have the same kind of puts me that Amari has. That's a big problem. Does Norman where are you? I mean, really a market beat any of those corners anytime that they want it. And I don't know if that's because they're just not as good as maybe people thought they were as maybe goes, I thought they were or for whatever reason as a season goes on to champ. Teams green here or the ones that are able to call on their best performance over and over again when they need it the most what he's talking about. Right. There is the fact that he doesn't know why. But they just aren't able to do that. He said, it's the big games. We don't rise up, and we don't play our best that speaks to that something that's intangible, and that's maybe what the Redskins have been missing for a long time. And it's got to be more disheartening. It's one thing if a receiver gets behind the defense to catch those short passes and take them for a hundred and thirty yards worth of touch. They were in position to eliminate and kind of limit the big plays. Just didn't make it and that is unacceptable so tough loss. No question about it. But again, everything they want is still there in front of them if they should get a chance to turn it around with the left to do it again behind the backup quarterback in McCoy. Well, let's go back to some college here again. Now, we know that Las Vegas. And I think most observers think that I'm Obama is the best team in the country by a wide margin. But not our FBI are football power index. Sees Clemson as a slight favorite over the tide if they played on a neutral field earlier this week. I sat down to talk about that. With me. Maria taylor. And this is where we went to retailer back with us here on this. What do you make of this this number, and it's out there all week long? Clemson FBI favored over Alabama, Alabama's the team that we're comparing to NFL teams. Now, are they not clearly the best team in college football. I think there's room for question there. And because of what we've seen from Clemson as their offense has gotten better every single week. We're talking about a true freshman quarterback in Trevor Lawrence that has taken over the reins of of this offense. And he's already thrown for over two thousand yards twenty one touchdowns on the season. And every week he gets a little bit better. But but more importantly Travis ET in the run game has been spectacular. I mean, Trevor Lawrence almost doesn't have to make plays. But I think in a head to head battle or not giving albums defense enough credit. I don't know that Clinton's run game gets off at all they play each other again and national championship game, which I would love to see by the let let's do that. Again. Let's do it as often as we can it does feel like they're on a collision course, obviously there's a couple of things that have to work themselves up between now. And then in one of them is the iron bowl. There's Auburn have a real chance to little this off. I do believe it's the toughest challenge that too and the offense will face the defensive line for Auburn is one of the best in the nation of their offensive coordinator Kevin field. It's a really good job dialing pressures, and he's going to be really aggressive and try to make too uncomfortable. But from what I've seen from two. He gets the ball out pretty fast. He gets better every week as well. He's got so many weapons on the outside that although he will find pressure, and I think the defense Auburn defense will be hype in the beginning by the time we get to the second half. I don't think this would be a game. But all the team that's beat Alabama over the course of the last twenty five days last time, I lost was three hundred and sixty days ago, and it was to an Auburn Tigers same. So they do have that we know how to beat Bama your system males on his actually beat them twice. No other current SEC head coaches ever beaten, Nick Sabin. The other thing that I suppose hangs in the balance here is to for the Heisman. How significant is this game for him in that very significant? In fact, I think it's not about whether or not Alabama wins game against Auburn because I feel like that's a given a little bit there like a twenty four point favorite as it sits right now but moving forward. Word to has to play big in this game against Auburn has to play big in the championship. Kyle Murray has been inching or kind of chipping away at his lead in the Heisman race. And Tyler Murray has game against Virginia Murray could be playing in the big twelve championship game, and he's gonna put up Godley numbers. So I think that these last two games will be big for deciding to a wins the Heisman. So there is a lot et stake in a variety of different ways as we look forward to rivalry weekend. Grab your leftovers and put on your TV because he got number nine UCF and south Florida that's at four fifteen eastern. And then the big twelve battle is huge Oklahoma West Virginia at eight eastern. The games are on ESPN. And don't forget, you can always watch both of them live on the ESPN app from wherever you may be. Football since we talk about golf, and that is brought to you by a mule inspired by a true story. Starring Clint Eastwood it'll be in theaters on December fourteen but today is the day that we've been waiting for tiger. And Phil squaring off for nine million dollars. Shadow creek golf course in Vegas to pay per view event, featuring the elder statesman of the game and the two have not been afraid to talk some smack. Here's how this week has gone. Well, I've been in Phil's head for twenty years thirty feet. The bay in potato. The. Can't be all right. Yeah. There's a lot of empty space up there. The decades of restauration I can get let it all out in this one day by Jeff. Shooting a lower score and taking that nine. Their spots out on the course that are great spots or a little Johnson. And the challenges are coming directly out of our pockets. I always like having some hats here rebound. But every uncomparable we don't I'm willing to risk. One hundred thousand says I birdied the first hold on home. W did you see how I baited them like that? Yes. That's the kind of week it's been if you wanna lay shackles on and here are the numbers tiger favored at minus one ninety at west gate. That means you gotta lay one hundred ninety dollars to win a hundred field as the underdog at plus one sixty I will be watching coming up. Cowboys have won three straight. They're sitting atop the NFC east. Now, I'm about to ruin Stephen a Smith's morning by telling him what I think the Dallas Cowboys are on their way to doing in the next six weeks. Don't miss. The boys are back eighteen days ago. We were wondering how high the Dallas Cowboys first round draft pick might be. Now, they knock off Washington on Thanksgiving Day. They sit atop the NFC east, and Amari Cooper leads the way with a hundred eighty receiving yards after an eight point divisional win that gets them over five hundred mothers, take a closer look at this. As Stephen a Smith joins the conversation this morning, and Stephen I'm glad that yesterday was thanksgiving because I wouldn't wanna ruin that day for you. I'm gonna ruin today for you. Instead by telling you that the Dallas Cowboys are peaking at exactly the right time. And they start to look to me like a team that has the formula to do some significant damage not only the rest of this regular season but into the NFC playoffs. What do you think? Well, I guess greenie. I guess I I got re retort with responded that with a question of the fact that you feel that we're supposed to ruin my thanks give you the Dallas Cowboys going to do that with the evidence to advance even that you're going to be hearing from Dallas cowboy fans from now until the middle of January got you. I got a well. First of all, I always hear from Dallas cowboy fans the fact that is even when they're losing out here from Dallas Cowboys no-go win the Super Bowl next year. Right. This is what I've been here for twenty three years twenty three years and counting. They've made the playoffs to of the last eight years greenie they want to a playoff games in the last twenty four twenty five years. I have not concerned about the Dallas. Cowboys Redskins did show up. I didn't know they were going to forget to tackle. I didn't know they were going to get to make plays. I didn't know how Clinton Dix was going to look as slow as a snail in in the same city as Barak. I didn't know these things, but they ultimately happened. I don't give started with Josh Normandy. He be absorbed from it. He's the big top seventy five million dollar quarterback you expect more from him to. But would that be? Exact give Dallas credit where Credit's due. Zeki Elliott running the football affectively Amari Cooper, looking every worth the first round, pick sacrificed to the Oakland Raiders in order to get him. They deserve a lot of credit for that. But last time I checked the is a scheduled still needs to be played who they played his coming week. That would be drew Brees all in saints. You know, what you got the Philadelphia Eagles that are going to be in a position to avenge laws. And then after that they've got Andrew luck who's been throwing three touchdowns of game over the last seven weeks, or so I am here to tell you that the Dallas Cowboys in all likelihood will lose at least two of those three games. Come talk to me, then greedy until then I respect you the ultimate professional and all of that stuff. But I don't give two cents about what you or anybody else thinks positively about the Dallas Cowboys. It means absolutely nothing to me. They will fall because that's who they are. Well, Stephen, a you know, what I'll tell you what this is why they will fall if they do fall. They'll fall not because of the players that they have on the roster. I think they're good enough to make some noise. I think this coaching staff will be the downfall for this football team. If they get away from what they have sown already to be what gives them the best chance to succeed. And that is this be creative on offense. Be very offense. Be run Centric offense. Limit these high powered offenses in terms of their possessions. By possessing the ball more, which means do not forget where your bread is buttered with Zeke, Elliot, I now, I know you're probably gonna laugh and say, well, they'll forget they'll get away from it. They'll start doing the kind of things that they aren't supposed to do. Well, hopefully, they have kind of learned their lesson because I'll tell you this as far as the Mario Cooper is concerned. And look there was a lot of people who went back and forth on that trade and went back and forth on a Mario about whether or not he's a number one or not Amari is a number one. He hits. Uber will make him even more effective number one. Is it the coaching staff is varied in created. And they are consistent with how they use him in a buried in creative type away the same way that the top plate the top play in this NFL the same way that they do it with their number ones. So defensively. Well, I think this team the first two levels of the defense has all the makings of being a championship. Caliber defense the secondary. We'll see we'll see how they hold up in the back end. But I think this is a football team. Look, they aren't the Cowboys players themselves. They're good enough to make some noise. It's that coaching staff. That's what that's the words. Louis riddick. I mean, you know, listen, this is me going at it on my radio show. You haven't learned you just haven't learnt as brilliant as you are. And you are bro. You you're just have it learned I've tried to tell you this many cases, first of all let's throw something out here. Joe and gruden's gonna have some explain the dudes bad enough. You have to explain about Khalil Mack. But. Murray Kupa keeps looking this way. Another question more on a coaching on the return of Jon Gruden the coach, but that's a different subject for another day. You just finished talking to me about the Cowboys Lewis, really it usually wait a minute if they do lose. I mean, I mean they've got the talents. So it'll be coaching. All right. Well, then it'll be coaching this year. And you know, what it wasn't getting zika Elliott the ball which is somewhat coaching early in the season. And then it was Dak Prescott. There was question there. And then it's the Dallas Cowboys defense from a year ago or two years ago, then it's eligibility issues. Because dude don't know how to act and I'm not going to get. I mean, this is the franchise that once had a guy get arrested for stealing Cologne and a pair draws from department. That's how bad it gets. Okay. So somehow way. These guys all trying to say y'all is look meant they've been visited ways to mess. Things up Watson. I believe is going to be any different than I expected to mess. It up. Just like they always do. Just wait for it this way for something will happen. You gonna say I trust me on this. It's just who they are. It's that. That's what I was waiting to hear what I was hoping for thanksgiving. Stephen. Thank you very much for your way in eleven minutes here on ESPN didn't never fails. And and all kidding aside. I kind of think the Cowboys have the goods this year. We'll take a short break here. We'll come back. We're making our NFL pigs because we got huge games still to come this weekend. We're going to tell you who's going to win all the big games, including a couple of the big college games Lewis and Vilma and I make our picks right after this. Monster game primetime tomorrow night on ABC number three Notre Dame looking to wrap up a birth in the college football playoff taking on archrival USC at the Coliseum. It's on ABC. And like everything else you can watch it live on the ESPN app from anywhere. Get up with us Monday morning after a huge weekend. Rex Ryan will tell us Aaron Rodgers and get the Packers back into the playoff. Chase MacFarlane over here. Tell us if the Shawn Watson can keep the Texans Rolan, and we'll explain how Saturday's rivalry games affect the college football playoff picture, all that and more and what should be a very busy Monday morning. Meanwhile, one piece of business left for us. It is our weekend watch it is brought to you by Buffalo Wild Wings. And we bring Jonathan Vilma back in our picks this week have a little extra sauce. If he will we've added some college games, and Jonathan I'm going to start with you. Let's go to the big twelve Oklahoma West Virginia tonight, Jonathan who do you like I like Oklahoma simply because they're going to have the ball last. Kylo Murray he's going to be hopefully Heisman winner if he plays very well in two dozen play. Well, but Oklahoma is going to have off paints. It'll be a sixty five sixty four game Oklahoma wins. I like Oklahoma also because they have everything to play for. They still have a shot of the playoff in West Virginia does not take them because of that edge Lewis, I like Oklahoma because I like their head coach Lincoln Riley because I think he's going to be in the NFL sooner rather than later. Sorry, boomer sooner. And I also like because I absolutely hate West Virginia. I wanted to deal with it. Next the game Jonathan Vilma Michigan at Ohio State who you got. Oh, I'm going Michigan. This is a team of sending they've been playing better. And better as as hard as that sounds each week defenses lights out Dwayne Haskins will not be able to play the way that we hope he can play for how state to win and the house as defense stinks. I agree with you, Ohio State has given us no reason to believe in them for the last month and maybe longer than that Michigan. Yeah. Look, I love how Michigan is constructed. You know, me man, I'm a sucker for team building. And I love what coach Harbaugh has built up. They're michigan. I love how they play defense. And we'll go with Michigan to all right? So we all agree on the college games. Go to the NFL the Sunday night game Packers at Vikings Jonathan who do you like I'm going with the Vikings? You don't have that bears defense coming off the bus for the Packers. So the Vikings will torch that Packers defense air. Rodgers will have as usual three hundred whoever many, however, many yards won't be enough. I'm actually going. On the other way. I don't believe in either teams. I'll take the best player that's in Rogers. I'll take the Packers to win. Yeah. I'm gonna go with Vikings. 'cause I like Mike Zimmer like the fact that they're going to come. They're coming off a disappointing loss to the bears, and they really need to rebound here. And you know, what we talking about the team you can't trust. I don't know. What's going on with the Packers on either side of the ball? Then let's go to our next one Seahawks at Panthers Jonathan who. Do you like in Carolina? I like the Seahawks. The Seahawks are playing good ball. They've lost a very good teams. Not just average teams. And I'm wondering what's going on with Carolina. I saw the game against the lions they lost that game. And frankly, the lines outplayed them I like to see in this one I do too. I like Seattle, I'm thinking Carolina. 'cause I just think this is such a tough spot. The Panthers losing on the two point conversion try last week. They're at home they need this win so badly. I like Seattle a lot. But I'm taking Carolina. I like Seattle in this game because I like Seattle's DNA and I trust Seattle's quarterback when the game is on the line more. So than the next us Carolina's. And that's not to say, I'm not a van. Them. But I am just remember this red area the Seattle Seahawks top ten teams in the red area. The Carolina defense is a bottom five team. That's a problem. Giants at eagles NFC east. What do you think Jonathan oh come on? We're going with the eagles. The giants have being the powerhouses of Tampa Bay New York Jets and a San Francisco forty Niners. Give me a break. It's going to be eagles. They win this game. They haven't even played the jets. He just throwing the jets because you like me. Like me. I like the giants. Odell says they're going to play their way back in. I think he's right. I got big blue Grady. You're not an idiot because I like the giants too. And I'll tell you what I love Doug Peterson. Everyone knows I think some of the beating he's taken lately has not just has not been unjustified. But I will say this that deepens of the eagles is one of the most of the Nella boring predictable understaffed defenses as far as the secondary concern that I have seen in a long time. I think this is going to be a breakout game for the giants offense is what I really hope. Next Bengals who do you like I'm going with the Bengals I liked the Browns of Browns are playing well with the Bengals are desperate. They need this victory to stay alive and get to the play offs the Browns, just happy. They're happy. They're winning games. They don't know what else to do. So I'm taking the Bengals. I don't know why. But I'm taking the ground. My gut feeling is they're they're on the ascension. I like the way they look they're getting better since he's getting worse. Give me Cleveland in an upset. Yeah. I'm gonna take the Bengals because I think the Bengals are the better football team. And I'm gonna say this look love him or hate him. I think Marvin Lewis is a tremendous defensive coordinator I worked with him when he was in Washington in early two thousands. And I think he's going to get them to play well enough on defense to keep this team in contention here in this football game win this game. And then finally dolphins at the colts Indies been playing great lately. Jonathan who do you like, of course, going with Indian watching Andrew lock right here. And we're watching this highlights. What are the dolphins going to do nothing? They're going to lose a game slop around two eight season as they've always done the. The colts are going to win. I agree right now. Andrew luck is playing as well as any quarterback in the NFL. Gimme indy. Colts better football team. You just can't trust. We were talking about trusting teams. You can't trust the dolphins. I mean there every year. It's a reset year for them every year. It's a culture issue for them every year. It's a question about what exactly is Ryan tannehill. And he's in the play in this game. But it doesn't matter. You know, why? Because if you can t y are going to be given the TY symbol over and over and over again, give me the cold. So we all agree on that. And as we finish up for this morning. Perhaps we left that the most important game for these two gentlemen. How about Miami? And pit this weekend guys. Yeah. John. Yeah. What about what about it? What are we talking about painting has already clinched a coastal? So they have no incentive to win this game taking Miami. It's incentive. Because. The first time ever. Shiv game just taking enjoy enjoy that one. I only wish. I only wish I had done this early. Have a wonderful weekend. Thank you everybody. We'll see you Monday. I take starts now.

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 490: New Head Coaches in the NFL (1-9-2019)

GSMC Sports Podcast

54:48 min | 1 year ago

GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 490: New Head Coaches in the NFL (1-9-2019)

"This is your ultimate stop for everything. Sports, the Golden State media concepts or podcast. Should I say more from the NFL MLB the NBA to MMA? It's all in here. The Golden State media concepts sports Bod cast, listen. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the GMC sports park has brought to other GMC podcast network. I'm your houses always melon with B's work Souza. We have to talk about in the world of football as we have new coaching hires as well as ran up the NBA and some other News Corp's, we should discuss later on. But first we gotta talk about the major head coaching signing of the day in. That's Bruce Arians has signed a coaching job with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And Todd Bowles is also signed as their defensive coordinator. So we have our first big signing of the year for head coaching jobs. And it was kind of weird because Aaron said he would only go to Cleveland, but I guess they weren't interested in him. So we went to Tampa Bay. What do you think about this, Mark? What do you think about this signing? Well, first off, I think Cleveland could have really used ago like areas, I I was excited to maybe the pairing of an area NHS Baker. Mayfield combo because young quarterback exciting areas known as an offensive guru offensive mind. Definitely a quarterbacks coach, but he doesn't go there. And he goes to Tampa Bay, which I am very surprised by I did not know that Tampa Bay or Bruce Arians would be a match that. I would see happen. Even though they were in talks. Yeah. And it just seems like Arians he can be a little choosy with the job that he wants to go to because he is a well respected head coach in the NFL. And I think, you know, multiple teams were interested or would be interested in for him to pick Tampa Bay's interesting to me because that signals that maybe he sees something. Maybe he is given some sort of power. Maybe he likes Jameis Winston. But I really think that the biggest winner today's Jameis Winston. And I think that with areas coming in if there's someone that can I dunno get his career back on track. Because last year he was not just a spended. He was benched as well. I'll in favor of Ryan Fitzpatrick, you know, so if there is a guy that can get the former number one draft picks career back on track. I gotta figure that if areas can't do it. Nobody will airings is a quarterback friendly coach for short. I mean he may Carson Palmer into a star in his late in late in his career. So he he has done wonders with quarterbacks. So it's safe to say that he can do the same. Yemen's winston. And did you see that? The cardinals are going to get a sixth and seventh round pick out of this. Because technically areas is under contract quote unquote with cardinals because he left retired. Yeah, unquote. So instead of getting into a drawn out dispute the parties agreed to basically swap picks. The end of the rat draft. Yeah. They're just pointless. Yup. Alright. So. No. I think it's a great. I think it's a great move by the bucks. I mean, only time will tell I know areas is one of the older coaches. But man, he also had some health issues, which was one of the reasons for his retirement when a quote, I read that they gave him a full on physical like he went through a physical that any player would go through if they were signed as free agent, which I think that's safe to say because he had a lot of problems as at the end of his cardinals run. So yeah, it is unusual though. It'd be safe than sorry. Right. But I do also like the fact that he's able to bring in a guy Todd Bowles around the defense. You gotta think like areas is one of the more respected in fell guys in the whole league. So it's like he has the ability to make a phone call to go at Todd Bowles Todd Bowles bag, I can I can play. Todd Bowles coming off that firing of the near jets job as he had struggling couple of what four seasons of struggle with jets. Long. It was I think four is. It would think it was about four. Yeah. Doesn't seem that long. But that's what failure really feels like. But anyways. No. I think overall though, I think the books I'm surprised that they actually did something that I would agree with I really. But I think the main the main concern is like how is this affect their draft choice. Like, what are they who they gonna pick down the draft? What's going to be? That's a good a good point of. We don't know what kind of their philosophy. But I was reading that since they they have the six pick. Noakes excuse the fifth pick some people some mock drafts have them getting greedy Williams for Millis you which I think would be a great pick for them. Yeah. He's a great pick for anybody is look if I think if you look at the books, I think with areas you kind of trust that with Mike Evans, James Winston. They drafted running back Ronald Jones last year, you kind of trust that the offense doesn't need. Maybe a first round pick addition. Whereas the defense could really use ago agreed Williams, don't you don't you? Anyone can use greedy Williams? He's always. But I mean like that defense could really use like either a pass rusher or db like some they could use an infusion of talent on that side of the ball a little bit more than the offense. We've said this before will say it again, this is a defensive draft foreshore. I mean, we don't see a offensive guy go in until Joe Williams, and he's the first he's the only guy offensively that like top five eight maybe even top ten to my knowledge. So obviously this is a heavily favored defense a class. So what was he Brazilians go defense most likely, but again, maybe it's hard to say. Because is it really an offensive player that people are talking about other than a quarterback that could be drafted in the top ten because I don't even think there really is. I don't think so either. So it kind of feels like if you're in the top ten in you don't need a quarterback, you might as well just take the best defensive player unless you I mean, obviously, every every team has their own, you know, scouts and board and things like that. But you don't want to overreact. You don't want to reach for an offensive player. If you could just get a stud defensive player if it's their right? Yeah. Of course. And of course, this is quote, unquote, the Nick Bosa sweepstakes draft, which I don't really agree with personally because I think there's a lot of players I could go number one this year like, and we'll what if what about the books they could get an offense vitamin maybe journal Williams gets to their pick meal. Someone like that. It doesn't have to be a skill position per se could be left tackle a right tackle. Yeah. But it is interesting. What I do like is that I think I think Tampa Bay has is going to become. I think what this kind of higher changes their perception they might get them to be able to sign a couple free agents. Whereas maybe they wouldn't be able to in the past just because Brazilians is a name. Yeah. He will Imperia -ccomplish name too. So it's one of those things where. His it's basically reputation that's got him the job Syrians be the only plus fifty five year old coach, I didn't know where you're going to say plus sized. I'm like, I'm pretty sure there's other plus fifty five year old coach should be hired this off season because we're seeing a trend with the other two sidings yesterday or is. Yeah. There is another signing in Arizona of all in Iran enough because he moved on from Arizona now Eyres who's got the new head coach in cliff Kingsbury, and he's been the offense going for USC for a grand total of thirty days. Roughly has it even been that long? He has a call. Yeah. Well, it's clear to show. He has his between. He's done virtually nothing for USC because he was the coach of Texas Tech. Yes. Which they were five and seven rain is what was his record thirty five and forty. Sounds something small. He was fighting. Don't know how it's because of one guy. Well, I mean. If Patrick Mahomes doesn't have a great season. He's not getting this job. What was his record without Patrick Mahomes? What was it with Patrick Mahomes? That's what I want to know. It's I don't think that's the also Baker Mayfield. Transferred. That's right. I've out about that. And then they have epic game against each other Mayfield in Mahomes where they total thousand passing yards and touchdowns or nineteen. I think we'll long lines of them signing him for Josh Rosen to get better. It is interesting that you can get fired from Texas Tech and get hired by the cardinals in the matter of a month and a half. Yeah. Sounds about right. The at that. So he is a young offense of mine. He's what like thirty nine years old. I believe so he's about the same age as Kyle Shanahan. Yeah. He's employed in the NFL, very briefly he played in Canada briefly as a quarterback. Okay. The heels actually entertaining to watch. If you have if you ever need to it for the patriot wasn't he patriots back for a hot minute. He's like the third one NFL pass. If I remember correctly probably random stat. Yes. Like one pass. All right. So what's your take on cliff Kingsbury to the cardinals? Do you like this move? It's it's four one guys for Josh Rosen is further quarterback. That's only it's for mainly. But do you think it's a good move their offense of coaches that they could have hired definitely see? I mean, there's not it's not. It's not a what you call. A this is not a slam dunk thing. Or it's not like others. The worst thing we don't know yet. We'll have to find out. Right. But what's your take on it? I mean, you got to take a position, right? Do you think it'll be a good thing? Or do you think it'll be a bad thing? Like if you had to guess, I think it's good for their offense in for Josh Rosen. But as for the defense that is not as bad as everyone thinks it is. So I think it's a benefactor definitely. Because the one thing they needed desperately as an offensive minded coach. Does it bother you though that he's never coach in the NFL, and he was under five hundred no in in college. Now. Really? I mean, I like I like getting opportunities to guys so. I think I think as it bother you that the knock on Patrick Mahomes coming out of college was that he wasn't a polished product. Whereas a lot of other quarterbacks were coming out of college. You know, there's many times how many times have there been guys that do their scouting. And they're dead wrong. Well, people homes ladainian Tomlinson was considered a bust coming in the NFL. No, no, no. But that's that's different. That's different. That's a different conversation. No one was saying that Patrick Mahomes wasn't good. The knock on him was that he was going to take a little bit of time to develop because he didn't have some of the skills at the other quarterbacks in his class met might have had. But I think any NFL quarterback should not start the first season there drive that I think they need a year every every court, right, right? But does that concern you that the non homes was that? No just didn't have the best foot work. He didn't have the best. You know, what are the mechanics weren't? Let's get a look at their negative size in in multiply it to a degree. So no, I'm not worried. So you're you think the colonel's made the right move with cliff Kingsbury, I think you could benefit them. Yes. Well, yes, I know you it can benefit them. It can't. But you you'd say, yes. The u like this ir. Yes. I do. Okay. No one's giving him a name love. And I'm saying, maybe maybe people are. I mean, people people like him like, they think he's young exciting mind. I am very concerned about it. Because he has no say over. Who his personnel will be and I don't have any faith in general management of the cardinals. I mean, they're drafts have been poor in my opinion. And so it's like you have to look at the fact that he had the job USA. He was going to be fine. So as an offensive coordinator, though, not the head coach. That's also a little bit interesting to well. I think he would have gotten. It's still a huge a he would have gotten better job. Elsewhere. If he stayed there probably and they were successful. So I think he likes the challenge I think he likes Josh Rosen, obviously. And I think this is going to be. It's only gonna benefit Josh Rosen to be do you think other than his coaching ability the dynamic in Arizona because it sounds like. They're not going to have a change at general manager. And they've had a problem acquiring talent. Do you kind of think he's in a bad spot? Like in terms of being able to excel as a coach. I don't think. So I think they I think they got to give them some chance like you got to. I know what you're saying. But I think it's more along lines of yet looked at the I just wonder if like maybe a veteran coach would have been better suited to handle some of the things because I just kind of feel like this is a kind of guy, no pun intended. But he can get buried like in Arizona like he who's gonna take the blame. If Rosen starts out poor in their own five next year started the season. It's going to be the coach who's gonna take the blame. If. Okay. Do they expect them to go like thirteen and three next season? Come on this guy needs to marinate. Let's let's let's just look at the facts they fired Steve Wilks after one season. They expect them to be a little bit better next year. There's absolutely pressure. If he goes three and thirteen I think they were I think that was like order envy once they signed Wilks. They've I think they got off if you're. Three and was his job safe. That's the thing. Right. Because he just they just fired a coach who went three and thirteen after one year. I would say yes, just because he has they gotta they gotta give longer than a year you as soon as you would think, but they can't go to coaches in a row give them one season and fire them. No. That's not happening. I'm sorry. No, no way. So some people are skeptical by this move because they think that the cardinals just signed the cheapest coach in the NFL a lot of people think they just want the cheap route because they're notorious for not paying a lot of money for coaches, and basically anything. Do you think that had a factor in this that they knew that they could get this guy for cheap? So if it doesn't work out, they're not on the books. I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised. But who knows what they're actually thinking? I think people would just like to jump to conclusions right away. I don't know, man. It's it's weird. The thing I will say is Texas Tech to give him the benefit of the doubt. They don't get the best recruits. They don't recruit like, you know, Alabama and even a lot of teams in their conference. But they also were one of the worst defenses in the in college football every single year. He was there. And I know he's an offensive coach. But that's another concern that I have is cliff Kingsbury connected enough to get somebody that can run the defense effectively. You know, Bruce Arians he was able to get Todd Bowles Todd Bowles one of the most respected defense coordinators in the game. This cliff Kingsbury have that kind of I don't know. Connective or does he have that kind of you know, connections around the league do people want to work with him? Because that is a factor. Right. Because we can agree. Even if you like him as an offensive mind he will need a good defense coordinator. Right. Yeah. But I think they were one of the worst defenses in college every single year. So he needs somebody coach at Texas Tech. I think asking him to be defensive coordinator for NFL teams lot more appealing than Texas Tech. Sorry, again, I think being the coach of an NFL team into Texas Tech is more appealing for defense acquaintances to join with him and the Zona defenses actually has some talent. So I think hey, coming to Arizona being the head coach of an NFL team instead of going to Texas Tech. I think those are two completely different things. You can't compare them. Yeah. No. No, no. I know. But the question is more along the lines is will he be able to recruit a defensive corn? I'm sure he will. Is there any names that have popped up as you might be as defensive coordinator nothing yet? Not that I've seen, but I think it's just one long blog long. Like, hey, wanna try this NFL team out with me, regardless of their relationship? It sounds like really. I don't know you want to try this new yogurt shop. Yeah. Exactly. Like, why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't if if he gave you a call and you like had some talks, but not too many. And he said you wanna try being defense Twitter eighth? Everyone's going to say, yes, the problem is is like who's available. That's like the thing. Like will. He be able to call Vance Joseph and be like Vance Joseph convenient defense coordinator because if he can get someone like that. And that's you know, well, Vance Joseph ain't gonna find another job. I don't think he is being considered for Cincinnati. Everyone's considered for Cincinnati. Well, he's a former coach I'm considered from Cincinnati. He's a former he's a he's a Marvin Lewis coaching tree guy. I think we know that Hugh Jackson's destined to be their new next head coach it could be a huge ex- and Vance Joseph combo there. Joseph doing the defense and offense. You Hughes Hughes? Go most going to definitely be there. I like cliff Kingsbury, I think that it's great for him. Like falling up is always good. You get fired from the decent college in. You're all of a sudden the head coach in the NFL. I like it for him. I just feel like it's a marriage that's destined to fail. But we'll see. He also has to coach in division. Now with Sean McVay Cal Shanahan, Pete Carroll. Which will be interesting not going to be easy for sure. But they got to give him more than one year. Isn't it funny that? Kings varies thirty nine. And he's the second oldest coach in the division. Well, when he comes to call Shanahan, I believe he's a few months older than she and the and he's like six years older than Sean McVeigh McVeigh's McVeigh's a kit, and do you think that Kyle Shanahan, and Sean McVeigh or the reason all these coaches like we saw it with floor. He's getting hired by the young hires. You mean, yes, because it's like everybody's going for these young millennials years. Right. Like, that's where this is. That's the trend is because you've got you can't just go with the old guard. You gotta sometimes bring in some new blood. And that's what it looks like it's happening around the league. That's that's working rend is going especially with McVeigh success. I mean, why wouldn't you continue that trend? Well, that's the thing. Everybody's trying to be the trying to get the next Sean McVay. But I mean until otherwise, Sean McVeigh. Yes, it looks good. But he hasn't won anything yet in the NFL the NFC west title. But it makes sense antibi- Ryan get a young quarter or a young coach it does. And also another thing I read that I've been reading I am a big proponent of. Of getting an offensive minded head coach. I'm not saying in every circumstance, there's always exceptions. But the reason is that when you hire a defensive minded head coach what usually happens is even if the defense is stellar the one year or two years that that particular team gets good. It's because their offense gets good. And what usually happens from? There is the offense coordinator gets plucked by another team to be the head coach in the near constantly in the cycle of trying to sounds a lot like the Alana falcons, you kinda does. Right. So it makes sense where it's like the theory is you should try and hiring offensive line a head coach because defensive coordinator easy to replace. And they're less sought after for head coaching jobs than the other way around. So it kind of makes sense. There's only a very few defensive-minded head coaches in the NFL or around the in any league football wise for that matter because this is now an offense at league, it's an offense era inland ball. What would what would it look like, Jeff if we all just listen a little bit more listening to audio books inspires motivates and brings us closer. No better place to do that. Then with audible audible has the largest selection of audiobooks on the planet. And now audible members get more than ever before each month to get three titles of your choice. 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Now, let's continue on with some head coach as Mike McCarthy has said publicly or maybe not hopefully, but he it's been reported that he is only interested in the New York Jets job, which is a big question. Mark to me personally. Because why wouldn't she be interested in that Cleveland Browns job because I feel like that'd be more as more attractive than the jets. But what are your thoughts on like, what are they saying? He wants to be the jets coach. It's what Sam darnold. Do you think that the Browns job might be might not be as attractive to others because of how the power structure they have their? Yeah. It seems like there's a lot of people involved whereas like the head coach for the jets might be kind of the king of the castle or like have more power, maybe. But once you get into that once you get into that team, you're going to be winning immediately that teams. Ready to win. Now. Team is more playoff ready than any other available coaching in the league. That's why I say that's the most. What's the word? That's the most attractive offer. Yeah. No, I get what you're saying. If you're looking at it for next year. But if you're looking at it for four or five years down the road, maybe Sam darnold in the jets for an office is who h- you'd rather work with you know, kind of make sense. I can see it. I don't think it's crazy. We we like. We assume that the Browns job is the best job because of what? Talent the kids the players, and then what are some of the negatives their front office. And. Yeah, ownership like, they're kind of just living living Cleveland living in New York. Nothing against Cleveland from Cleveland, but come on, you know, that's not the best place. Maybe he likes Sam darnold like a lot. We don't know. You know, maybe he sees more darnold than Baker mccarthian darnold sitting treat K s is. I don't know about all that first comes love. They are serious. There's a baby sitting in a baby carriage. Well, that's all. That's not. That's not how all right. Anyways. The falcons. They have brought in Dirk koetter to be their offense coordinator as he was like go from his head coaching position with Tampa Bay Buccaneers. What do you think about cutter? He was there before right? I didn't he get the job because he was the falcons coordinator. And then he left and then Shanahan came in. Is that how it worked? I believe it was could be wrong. So we have come full circle. I want to say that that is correct. But regardless. What do you think about this for the falcons they went go Sarkissian from the offense coordinator role? He's in. Yeah. Makes sense. 'cause how poorly they did authentically compare those and twelve to two thousand fourteen he was the offense coordinator for the falcons, Dirk koetter. So. So obviously, he has some connections there still was. Twenty was the offensive coordinator for the book's one year. And then he was head coach. So he goes back. He was the offense coordinator for four years in Jacksonville before the falcons and now he goes back. I think I think falcons are more appealing than Jacksonville foreshore. He he was successful for the falcons, they went to an NFC championship. Right. Was it two thousand thirteen when they played San Francisco and the NFC title that was two twenty twelve season. But it was January twenty thirteen. So he was the offense coordinator for that game in for that team. I think is good move. Yeah. I think so too. I mean, it's going to only with you know, than the devil. You don't know to have a thing. Oh, yeah. That classic saying I would rather go with the devil. I know than the devil. I don't know. So Dan Quinn. I mean, you know, he's a defensive minded head coach for the falcons. So to bring in dirt cutter, I think that's the right move. So you're saying you saw store or that. You're reading are cool that Cairo Murray was leaning towards going to the NFL over major league baseball. Yes. And I don't know if this is factor not just is to report, and that's usually trustworthy. But the question I think remains is if he does go to the NFL draft this year where do you see him being drafted? Man, that's such a. That's such a hard question. Because. Is he predict like is he a top ten pick in your opinion. Would he be the number one quarterback? Well, let me look at the top. He would be the number one quarterback over Haskins. Yes. For sure slam dunk. I say him in our it's not a for sure slam dunk, but Haskins is definitely caliber Peskins. Only the thirteen starts. But he does have a big arm seems like he's accurate. Okay. So here here's the order. Arizona one Niners to jets three raiders for Tampa Bay. Five jet. Giants. Six Jaguars seven lions eight buffalo nine Denver ten. Seems Jacksonville would take him unless the raiders partways Derek Carr, and no one trades up into the top five that I think the giants would be the first team to take a quarterback. And then. Yeah. The New York Giants because. They need a quarterback. Right. All right. So between the giants and the Jags taking who Comrie or has do you think back toback quarterbacks? I could see that for sure. Some people think that these people think that the quarterback from Duke Daniel Jones is going to be the Jaguars pick. If the giants. He's highly touted but Duke compared to Ohio State in Oklahoma. Their mock drafts have three quarterbacks taken in the top ten and that doesn't include cover Murray that doesn't include. No, Daniel Jones, and drew lock drew walk the Missouri quarterback. Wow. That's actually quite surprising. Well, you know, it is a quarterback league. She someone trading with the cardinals to get the first pick and getting instead Nick Bosa going for one of the quarterbacks. I don't think so. And the reason why gentle like going, I think there will be a traitor, but I don't think it would be to the cardinals. And the reason why I say that is because it doesn't appear that any of the teams in the top five are going to take a quarterback. So I don't think you have to move up all the way to number one. In fact, the number one pick value is I know that teams kinda value those picks differently. But the difference between the one the two and the three are actually pretty significant. So if you get the number one pick you're giving up a ton. So if you go get the number one pick your actually seeing like, I think somebody's going to get the number one pick and take this hornbeck if I don't and I'm going to give up by three first round picture that spot. Now, if you move up four or five spots like if you go from Jacksonville to Oakland, for example, or the giants to the forty Niners pick and number two that will cost considerably less than the number one pick that would cost at least your next year's first round pick him, but it wouldn't cost what the Redskins got for. The rent with the Rams trade or the Ricky Williams trade the saints treating every single draft choice. So if you're the Jaguars and your pick seven to go to number one, we'll probably cost you three first sharp x you this year next year and the year after that if you go from seven to two it probably doesn't cost you that third first-round pick. It'll probably be this year next year and maybe a second round pick or a third round pick. It is still it is but three first round picks in a rose really high. The Jaguars can even trade with the jets and get the quarterback they want her or like that a lot of the team speaking in the top five Tony quarterbacks. Right. Like, none of them raiders cardinals have rose, and they judge him last year the forty Niners have Jimmy Garoppolo who's coming back from ACL tear. The jets have darnold. So they don't need a quarterback either raiders currently, Derek Carr. So that's not written in stone yet. But we will know that before the draft starts if they have them or no Tampa Bay. They have Winston. Yeah. They're not taking a quarterback. So you can you can even trade up to the number five picking I best quarter. Aubrac available. You could. The who would you see trading ahead of the giants Jones, obviously don't need to trade up. If for sure is got to be in the conversation. They're the most likely, right? Like, they're the two most likely jumped nanny training from eleven to five I could see happening. I see Miami. How about Denver? I know they signed keenum, but it's only a three year deal. It's I think it's too soon to draft a quarterback immediately after one season with your court and quarterback you signed deal. Keenum's not your quarterback of the future. Right. If he was your quarterback in the future. They would assign a four or five year deal. They send to a three year deal. They kind of signed him to be the bridge. Maybe they fall in love with a quarterback, and they don't draft this hyg in. So might cost them more in the future. I don't know. We don't know who likes to write. There's going to be a lot of things that will develop. Pro days combines Cincinnati had eleven they could move up. Absolutely. The dolphins at thirteen. But it sounds like the dolphins are engaging in immoral long-term approach to their rebuild Washington because of Alex Smith is Washington. Absolutely absolutely have to consider Washington. I mean, there are teams. There are teams. I think we but fifteen picked like Washington is what are you giving up for that net for that high top five top see, I don't think Washington would do that. I think realistically as Washington moves between six and ten were maybe a quarterback that ornamental Jones. Probably maybe a quarterback's already been taken. But they get the next one. They might I don't think they'll get Murray. Maybe not even Hoskins, but I do see them getting Daniel Jones. They could get drew lock. Remember, we have to remember. I know you're going to say we have to remember this is a quarterback league in quarterbacks fly updraft boards. Baker Mayfield was not even a first round pick until about two weeks before the draft. And then he was the number one pick as the draft as it got to that day. It went crazy in one direction. You know? And I know what you're saying a band. I know what you're saying though. Drew lock. It doesn't really do anything for you. I get it like all excited about him. But a team only takes teens here. All it takes. Yeah. But you know, what you can say the same thing about cliff Kingsbury at Texas Tech. What did they do this year or Josh Allen in Wyoming? It's it's exactly it's one of the frozen a UCLA. It's one of those things where you're looking for an individual in a team sport. And team success can mean certain things and sometimes not mean certain things, right. Dewayne Haskins though, I think we'll Dwayne Hassans will be the number one quarterback taking. I'm not sure if you think I think it'd be taken over Cairo Murray it's him over. Over murray. If Murray could because he's going to be the quarterback that impresses the most leading up to the draft. He's going to have the size. He's going to have the arm strength. He's going to have some things over Murray. Whereas Marie has more starts under his Bill Murray's had more individual success. We can't rule out Haskins. Like he was a big time prospect to and he was third in Heisman. It wasn't like he came out of nowhere rent. True. Very busy. Anyways. Yes, we gotta take a break. But I I wanna talk to you about audible and audio books for that matter audiobooks. Inspire us motivates us even brings us closer. And there's no better place. Listen to audible audible has the largest selection of audiobooks on the planet. 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We've finished the NFL stop. Now. Let's go to the NBA. And they're actually some bits and pieces that happened in the last. Yes. We talk about Wiggins. Yeah. You're the slur. Yeah. A slur. He called a I believe it was Dennis Schroder gay in a post interview. And he has I believe he has denied it. Or he's apology, tonight's using slur. He says he didn't call Dennis Schroder gay in post game interview. He completely denies it. He said in a tweet I like to I'd like to clarify what I do the initial good though. No, I didn't let me just finish. I like to clarify what I said during during my post game media session. I said, I don't know what's wrong with him. He was just getting acting crazy for no reason. It says getting dot dot dot acting crazy for what he's actually was. I don't know what's wrong with him. He was just gay. He was acting crazy for no reason. So that was the actual will. That is not the term to use that situation. So, of course, he, you know. Recanted. And like you said he put up, and he also following that most love and respect for the L G T Q community, and I would never use any term to disrespect them in any way. I'll like story. I don't know. I'm not getting cues them anything. Yeah. So he's obviously. Yeah. Obviously is one of those slip-ups like, you know, some people are like that's and he was like trying to maybe he maybe he was like I said he was like I totally didn't mean to say that it was just says friends or something like that like everyone has their own. They say these say some inappropriate things or root things with their friends, and they moved into actual other conversations. So I'm guessing how that that's how it worked. There was a incident that happened in the game that we need talked about that before all these game comments the same game the thunder and the timber wolves Nerlens Noel taken off on a stretcher midway through the third quarter. And there was a drive by Wiggins to the lane, we're Noel and him collided. Noelle's head ends up hitting the ground hitting the floor on the way down. Yeah. Very scary. News taken off on a stretcher. I am not. Sure what his conditioning. He hasn't touching. That was it's officially reported. He has concussion you could hear his head dancing off the floor. That's. Can we can we not? Knows pretty bad. I mean, not say we can hear it because that's gruesome image. I mean, you know, I know, I know but still. Yeah. The commentators pointed it out, and it was it was not a good site. He left on structure. It's not always. It's never a good thing when they leave on the stretcher, you know, it's always terrible. Nope. But hopefully, he'll he'll be fine. Because if it's just a concussion, I think that's pretty good. Here. But we all know concussions or not the how do you say? The best thing for, you know, for sure not like continuous concussions. Somebody plays basketball. If you put football, the, you know, what's chances didn't get another concussion playing basketball. I mean, it's pretty well. Could it happen? Sure. The football players are hit. We'll just hope for his recovery. The Timberwolves did get the win by the way, one nine thousand nine hundred seventeen. That was Ryan Saunders. First game is good. We talked about this yesterday and his first win. Yes. He graduates to his first win. And it means he's I think it's a he's getting a recent. I'm just kidding. I have no idea what's going to happen. And it was oddly enough Andrew Wiggins best game of the season, forty points and ten rebounds. So he had his best game. He was involved. Really good game of forty endgame. Yeah. And he was involved with a player who got a concussion I'll be at not his fault. And then the slur after the game quite quite a night for Andrew Wiggins, very eventful. I I was about to say ventilate the perfect word for that. Did you see the warriors trounce the Knicks? So a lot of people were talking about this game before it happened because where's your eighteen point favorite? And people were like that is a remote ridiculous number. Yeah. And they won by what twenty-seven? Yeah. That's that's accurate. One twenty two ninety five Klay Thompson, he is on fire now forty three point seven threes curry at a refugee night, but it didn't matter. Yeah. Exactly. And. This game is such a. Then he's being weird this retailing. I feel like it's also being reported that Sacramento Kings, and the Knicks are in conversation of it possible trade between us Kanter to Sacramento for Zach Randolph who hasn't played all season long to join the Knicks. I don't know if he'll be like a buyout situation or if they actually plan on using him. But what do you think about that trade? It's interesting to see the lease like cancer going to Sacramento's probably benefiting Sacramento. More than Zach ran onto the Knicks. Seems like it seems like a one renting for the next right? Yeah. This seems like a very one sided trade. They both have expiring deals. Yes. And I guess if if this does happen these two guys would resign with what these teams, I'm assuming I'm just going to make a sumptuous on that. But if they don't then this trade is just mainly just for one teams trying to make the playoffs this year the other teams around and tank here, that's the best. I can get out of that. What about for the kings? They they had a player he can rebound. This team will make a good run for the playoffs. If this trade goes down. They had a terrible loss night. They're up by twenty one loss of Phoenix. That was a brutal loss, and I'm not sure how that's going to. I think you got to have to move on from that. I think that's the best. They can do. I can't really think of anything else. To say about it. So McCaw got released by the Cavaliers the restricted free agent. And now the NBA is looking into this. They're reviewing the signing of McCaw and possible draft picks could be on the line here. I I'm not sure what the reasoning is. But it sounds like. The reviewing if the Cavaliers kind of I don't know acted in a unprofessional manner by signing him to an offer sheet and then releasing him right away. Yeah. It's I think this is just I think it's money moving. I it's hard to say with these trays, but mainly it's just about saving money for a lot of these guys. So cousins is going to debut around January eighteenth and sounds like that would be they play the cook. Present the words play the clippers. Is the season over if DeMarcus cousins comes back healthy and even as a half of what he was in his time with the kings and the pelicans. Game over man gives it as basically you're going for came over, man. I mean, they're going to have a starting five curry clay Durant dream on to Margaret's cousins. My head hurts just thinking of that. It's like evil empire. It no not lie. It is the it's the Yankees of the basketball just think of the Dun Dun. And yet why I don't like this because I because Y Jeff, well, I'm talking on my headache. But mainly I was talking to just about like he's gonna come back playing pretty well, and you know, borderline unfair. He's in a comeback. It's like that's where we're going to drop that is that is an all star team lineup that is legitimately like at all. All star voting into the all star game. These could easily be starting five. And they're on the same team in the real world and the real MBA. It's like somebody's playing a video game. Right. Like NBA to cares. Yeah. It's like, you do you do those force trades or those signings where you have no cap space type of stuff, you turn on all the settings to go in your favor, and you get all these guys. If he comes back and he's literally half the guy. I mean, he's going to be. Or if he's half the guy that he was then they will absolutely just won the championship. I don't think any team given the trophy. Now is that what you're saying? I mean, the they're already what second best record in the league without him. And it's not that they've needed him before. But he's just the extra another cash. It's just they could have five guys on the court. They can all hit threes. I just want you to think about that. They all stand around the arc and just pass it from one end to the other until somebody gets open and then hit that shot. How was that? When Draymond green is the worst shooting three pointer at three point shooter on the court. That's a really good shooting team because he can knock them down when he's open not he's not Klay Thompson or curry or anything like that. No one knock them down when he's opened knocking down. Splash brothers splash family now. It's a big family if they're if they're all brothers Addams family. Yeah. So. It's that redemptive. His that song suits that team. So well, the creepy and the key. The rescuers. But creepy and spooky goes with that. Because it's spooky that all. These guys are on the same team. Dr man, remember the good old days when it was. Whenever somebody says remember the good old days. It's like some old stuff that they're going to say good old days, and like, I don't know to nine hundred ninety nine when there's no. Dominant team except maybe the Lakers, but they only had two players not seventeen nineteen ninety nine. I don't know. I'm just trying to pick a random stuff. All right. Let's take a break. When we come back. We'll wrap up the sports shows some news and notes around the world. We'll see Roger this. And yeah, you don't need a watch basketball and more. Whereas you're gonna win. Are you looking for help for your fantasy football team? Check out the GSM see fantasy football podcast. Get today's best advice on who to start who to sit even who you should draft from sleeper. Picks red hot lineups. They got it all covered for you. That's GSM. 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You know when they have the. What's the favorite like it's like the lottery, you get a lot more options. You get more of your cells getting picked, and I mean, there's more your ball in there than anyone else's. That's great. He just has the advantage. It's hard. It's hard to sit there and just say that it's random, but I've been tapping. Well, thank you to bleed you report because it set Rappaport in general says independent reporter says Eric re or independent report excuse me says Eric Reed was drug tested fewer times, and he publicly claimed. Do you believe that? What do you think it actually was seven times? Maybe he aggravated. I don't know still if it was still more than four times. Yeah. Because how long have you been on the team where he was signing? What September October. I wanna say you signed after like the fourth or fifth game. If I remember. So it's been ten twelve weeks. Maybe three four two three months in four times out of those three months at least four times you've been tested. That's and I think that how it works. There's five players selected every every after every game or before every game to do the test. So it's like five players a week and for him to get whole upon. Yeah. Outta ten chance basically. And getting that four times he should go for the lottery. So how state book is quarterback Justin fields. He's asking the incidentally for immediate eligibility and hope seventy answer here in the next few weeks. He enrolled at Ohio State this week after spinning the first part of the season at Georgia. He was a number two overall prospect in the two thousand eighteen recruiting class, but he played a backup role. And then he announced he was going to leave. He wasn't happy that he wasn't the starter. What do you think of this situation? He wasn't having wanted to start her. I kind of get what he's getting at. And so he outed and left. Yeah. 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Matt Minich's Bengals Chalk Talk - 2020 NFL Draft O-Line prospects with Matt Valdovinos

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Matt Minich's Bengals Chalk Talk - 2020 NFL Draft O-Line prospects with Matt Valdovinos

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But I know that fans are still out there. Screaming to make improvements on the office of line and my guest today. met Volvo Venus Is going to talk to us a little bit about some of the Office of Lament? The bengals might be able to get in the draft Matt. How're you doing today? I'm always doing good. I feel good. I'm excited talks the ball and talk about some big uglies. All right sounds good. So Matt You can find his work. He writes for Pro Football Network Also does a podcast with blue chips scouting The NFL podcast with blue chips scouting So we're just GONNA go ahead and skip As much as I like works in Beckton wills And really even Andrew. Thomas probably not going to be happening for the Bengals Every once in a while you see a mock draft for Andrew Thomas Slips but I gotTa Think. Somebody's grabbing him Before the end of the first round. So let's move into the second round and talk about often tackles So after that top four and that's been kind of a pretty big debate like who is. Ot Five in this draft class Who Do you think could be a good option for the Bengals in round two? I think it starts with really what you're looking for There are a couple of so the two that I think are the best fitting at five in six. Who I think are still a tier above the rest after that kind of you know a pseudo to your one would be Josh Jones at a Houston loosening at of TCU The only thing with those two is that Jones is a very natural left tackle. He played it for four years of Houston At Mobile in the senior week. He or at senior bowl he did move over the right tackle and a little bit of guard did not look very comfortable. You struggled a bit so if you're looking for a left tackle type of player judge probably if not if you know you're wanting to plug in that right. Tackle spot Luca's Neon who played right tackle most of his career at TCU. Who's really good and people forget Suffered a pretty bad hip injury this year and played through it so as tape into nineteen was not phenomenal but a statement two thousand eighteen was excellent and I think had he been fully healthy this year we would be talking about him as the first round pick as the best right tackle projected into the NFL. Now obviously worse and judge wills both played right tackle in their careers but the thought processes that they can comfortably plane either spot. But that's that's the two I would come right off the bat and is very depend on how they view Joe Williams Someone who is very high on who I think could be a quality In in pro left tackle in the NFL. So if they're looking to add At thirty-three you know his running mate in right tackle. I would say probably Lucas kneeing or they wanNA move Williams inside the guard. Maybe Josh Jones Phone. That left tackle spot. Yeah I mean I gotta think that as high as they drafted him You drafted him to be your left tackle. He's he's Zack. Taylor's first ever draft pick. I don't think you're not messing with that guy. At least giving him a shot you know maybe maybe in a year. You decided you can't do it but we haven't seen that guy at all really. That's what I think is GonNa Scare Bengals fans off of Yang As having gone through a year without Jona Williams You know making another pick like that thirty three this year It's pretty pretty nerve wracking. I don't know how much of a stomach bengals fans will have for for move like that in out Jones under you were down at the senior bowl and Jones is a guy who got a lot of attention down there In definitely getting a lot of positive feedback they're like is Prince Tegel when I go from from Auburn Who only been playing football for a couple of years actually was scouted by a basketball coach at a prep school. I came from came to the US to play basketball And now he's got a chance to the league. What are your thoughts on? Prince? So he's next up would be next on my list Right there Great Physical Abilities. You know he's long tall Five ish but he's still liens. He can put on a little bit of weight and will help him. He's a naturally physically gifted and it shows impact protection and his ability to keep himself between the defenders excellent I think a lot of people come to this debate whether he or Austin Jackson the. Us's better. I don't think it's close particularly I think. Btw is a head and shoulders better. And if you're looking for someone that that's going to be a left tackle Somewhere in that second round who I think personally has the ability now. Do I think you will reach it? I don't know but has the ability in the potential to be a franchise left tackle all pro level player and I think he's that yes definitely see some really really good flashes on Film You Messing Austin Jackson. An he kind of fits into the realm of guy that. I don't think it's film was great and a lot of people kind of talk about his potential. You know you see him. Thrust into that area because of what is physical gifts are similarly One of the late risers in this draft class as Cleveland Personally I I didn't like him very much on film But he tore up the NFL combine And now I'm hearing people talking about him as a valid option With the thirty third pick. I'm seeing him You know mocked in that type of area. What are your thoughts? On as Cleveland from Boise State. I'm honestly a thirty three. I don't think it would be the end of the Bengals have had worse. Second round picks within the past year In so you could definitely do worse than Israeli. Win I would probably lean towards a Prince Daniel no-go or you know a Josh Jones or loosening. How we talked but I think Cleveland what you get is. I think he's fundamentally more prepared than either Jones or goes physically. He's ability to anchor is a little bit stronger than either of those is and I think it's just because he's naturally larger now. There were some inconsistencies. A lack of a motor occasionally that. I saw Boise State. That did bother me but you get the physical ability. He reminds me of how Colin Miller was. You'd last year but I think he's better than Clinton Miller was coming out of UCLA now. I don't think he's upside is as high because Miller was legitimate. Like one percents But and people hated that pig. Miller was actually a solid contributor on the Oakland offense this past year so I do think you can absolutely do worse than Cleveland. Would I think maybe smart move with look to trade back maybe grab him but if he's your guy don't have a major issue with especially in the second round where? I'm okay with taking high upside players especially at positions of major needed major value. Tackle slattery tackle. That's a good point in cold. Mill is kind of the poster child for that. Didn't really have the film but had the metropoles and as panned out I think from a size standpoint. You could say the same thing by Orlando Brown and there was somebody thinking. Obviously he didn't test well But you know the massive size and somebody took him in and he's having success in the League as well So I mean there's definitely value to that and I and I think that I know you you play align I- i- coach sites. I tend to focus really hard on the film But a lot of times these these measurable do project In and you see at least guys who have really strong measurable have a very high floor. doing for the beginning just based on what they can do physically that was can't Now couple of other late risers. Guys that You know more likely in the mid rounds Matt Pert from Yukon Who Actually did like film? I think a lot of people more into him after the testing but I liked his film quite a bit And Ben Barch from Saint. John's in Minnesota You know he's a guy obviously Again you were at the senior bowl He he stood out there being a d. Three football player You know you've that you gotta stand out you gotTa go to a bowl game like that and do that and He's a guy that everybody all the reports I've heard say he. He belongs so What do you think about those to so both were actually at the senior bowl? I think Barch was better overall. Now that being said he did spend a lot of his time splitting between outside and inside. Personally I think probably how he fits a. He looked better on the interior to me if it has his Mahler mentality. He's very nasty very willing to to drive them into the ground but he did also measure very favorably I think he's best suited to play right tackle. I don't know that he's physically gifted enough to be able to protect the blindside consistently But right tack was important nonetheless. I really like his motorin. How in you can Kinda tell that. He's deeply prospect with the way he plays He's very hungry. He's very willing to do what needs to be done very nasty dirty. It's what I love offensive line so really really love barge but I think might prefer him as an interior offense. Lineman haven't decided yet but I think I would rather play on the interior or at the right tackle spot that I would have to left. Tackle pert is a little bit different. He's very tall. He's gotTa lean frame. My only issue is I like to steep but you can tell that he pleased at uconn. He's the coaching was not excellent. He's very. There's a lot of a lot of Rhonda's and he hasn't been very developed. I think he's best suited to be taken by team. Who may be has an older tackle already on the roster? Look at him in late in early round threes kind of where I would look to take him. Coach up the issues that he has and then teach him how to fix some of the things that he he some of his habits that he's already developed. Personally I think he can be a really good offensive tackle but for how long he is. I do have some worker. How tall he is. I do have some worries that he's not overly like he's not super super long and he's not he. He plays very high. So I do have concerns with that at Russia's will feast on you in the NFL if you give them your interior and they will drive you back quarterback every single time so he does have a long way to go before he's ready to play in the NFL opinion. But I do think once he gets developed and once he gets he has physical tools to equality NFL tackle. I think it'd be interesting to see how it works with. Some of these guys with the new. Cba believe requiring you to have one more often to lyman Active than than you did previously. And also. There's there's extra spots on the practice squad and I think that's GonNa be really good for off line development because as we know are you're not getting as much Drop Back Pass in college football as you do in the NFL even though the NFL's teams as well it's You know I think are are off line. Development is really really behind where it was years ago. So I think that's be a great spot For more of these guys to be able to catch on hang on a little bit longer and hopefully In a pause UM careers Yeah with Barch main not You know it's not unprecedented. A curse Elia market was from Hobart Division. Three school a few years ago when the second round to the buccaneers so for a d. Three guy to be able to rise up like that and come in and contribute you know. There's there's past you know there's a little bit there Most people private Saint John's Listened to his bengals. Fan May Saint. John's is a very good Very Good Division three program. Maybe maybe you contemplate Mount Union playoffs or something at some point but Former coach there was like the winningest coach in college. Football Jangle already and That is pretty Is that is that some random D three school? It's a pretty big pretty established program So move into the inside as as you know we may very well be doing with guys like Bartsch so On Day two. There's a chance the bengals could have really their pick of any interior linemen You know the top guys that you really hear about our Caesar Ruez and Lloyd cushenberry They seem to be the ones that are disgusted. And to the first round top of the second round type talent what Let's start with the Ras. Where where do you think he fits in the NFL and You know do you think he's a he's a good option at pick thirty three. Yeah I think either of those guys are good opposite picker eighty three and I think other than those two. There's nobody in the interior offense align worth there's around selection So I think it's very much those two pick whichever one you prefer more than just go from there. Don't don't try to push the need especially. Both of them are gone because I do think there's a major off between Christian Bury's the rest of the class With RUI IS A. He's a very he's physically gifted. He's big six foot four three hundred twenty pounds a very very strong very athletic for his size and his. It showed Michigan He is still. He's very young so he is a little especially compared to some of the guys like Lloyd cushenberry like Joe Jackson entirely who've been playing for so long I think he's a bit more project ceilings. The highest in the class for the position specifically at center and I think that's where both of these guys are best But I could ruin. He's in terms of his physical gifts. Make him the the highest ceiling. Ichiro fits lyman this class. 'cause number is a little bit different. He's still physically gifted but not so much as reading. When I think Kush does better is better. Technically I think his passage cleaner. I think his hands are a bit cleaner and it showed throughout the entirety of Lsu where you're playing in front of Joe. Boroughs moving around in the pocket constantly. Going silent the sideline in not being called for so many holds especially on the interior is a big thing and they were run the football effectively. I think both these guys are excellent. Run blockers I just think that Christopher is a little more developed at this stage in their careers navy's older but I do think res has higher upside in terms of physical gifts yet. I think on the LSU line there. There's some really talented guys. Civic Charles of tackle by I think a Damian Lewis and other interior linemen You know he was a guy that I in my rankings. I've got right up there with those top guys Where do you think of Louis Physician? Where where do you think is a good spot to to get him? A draft I looking for Damian Lewis probably in the early third round somewhere around there early to mid third round. I'm very very strong. Incredibly strong brick wall on the interior. I don't think he's overly athletic on his ability to move side to side. I kind of limits. Where or what kind of scheme he can be in I don't think you fit super wellness zone wide zone scheme getting out into space. But I do think. He excels in a power run. Put Him in front of a guy and asked him to move him. That's where Damian Lewis kind of kind of feast. He's not built to be pooled. He's not built to run much counters or anything like that It's a very gotta move forward. And that's why I think in a lot of the people in this class like that Agenda Jackson from Ohio State. Someone who I love is a lot like that Robert Hunt just like that need a moody. The class is very very strong very powerful. And it will it's gonNa Produce Mahler's but it's outside of releasing cushenberry. It's not very athletic. Nick Harris. Who's a good athlete for his position? But he's like two hundred ninety five pounds so sacrificing their yeah absolutely and the bengals definitely overall had an issue. They don't have a lot of anger in that group. Yeah so you know. Harris kind of fits writing with that now. Last year they went to more down scheme later in the year. And that's when they start to have success ought to do is look at Jo- mixon's numbers museum. Yeah and I think that's what I was getting links. It's best as well personally. Yeah absolutely yeah and and and so George. Jackson was not a guy was going to mention. But for from what you're saying. I think with with Lewis with Jackson. They might not be great. Fits for the bengals because The bengals are gonNA WANNA pull them. WanNa get him out in space and and you know we're better off going with a Ruez Aura. Cushenberry In the second round. That's a better fit yet. Another rb some options that you can take and you can take these. Some of them are going to be able to move. I'm not a huge fan of Matt. Hennessy just because I think he's a senator or bust. He's really really struggled at guard in mobile coming out of high school. He played either center or tackle. It was not. He would not play guard wherever he was going. Which was kind of insane to me until I was just. Kinda like that. A title. Who's played at? Wisconsin played a lot of power. A lot of Do of moving up to linebacker. But I do think he's athletic enough and he's experienced enough. He's played so much you're right. Yeah he was yeah he was hurt for most of the year. I had to nagging. Injuries was not great which upset me to see but he was still. I mean he's still someone who I think if you can get him at the beginning of the third round I think is an absolute robbery because I think he just. He's put so much good. Tepe on the field that I don't think you should knock him for having a bit of a down year another guy out of Limo. I think out of Oregon Quietly a really good prospect by is a good athlete as well he could be in that kind of get him out in space type scheme and I think that a little bit better than some of the guys who I have rated over him but just because if you're going for a specific scheme he fits that a little bit better. Yeah I'm going to be a a a scouting cliche. And instead of butchering name referred to him as the kid from Wisconsin. But I mean the best thing is he was a guy that everybody was talking about an all. The preseason listened even the the the list of the draft list that you were seeing in like November. 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I'm a big fan of And I haven't really seen too many people Is nearly as high as I am so interested to know how you feel about Daryl Williams from Mississippi State Daryl Williams like three years ago was viewed as a coming potentially like really really good prospect. So I always think it's really funny to see how a career arc kind of goes down in terms of draft stock because I think it was Richard Senior this year so then he would have been draft. He would have been eligible like two months ago. and I remember talking about him. I remember scouting then the issue I think people have is that he never really got much better than what he was. Which is understandable right? You're into your offensive line. Play if you get to a certain point you're not going to unless you're gonNA be a superstar. You're not going to get that much better than average to slightly above average blame. I like him. I think he's I mean I like the physical traits. I don't think he's an elite athlete. But I think he's good enough to to be scheme verse. Tom My only concern is. He is a little bit of eight in terms of how he plays. I do get pushed into the backfield now. Playing the SEC does mean that you're commonly playing guys like Darren Brown Marlon Davidson Gwyn Williams Ridwan Davis. Ms Just two teams right. Where there's so you're GONNA be playing a lot of talent. I think he's a guy who especially if you can get him in around five or six is the guy that you can. Because he's got some experience be able to plug and play him pretty early on in his career and while he may never be a top five garden the NFL. If he's a top fifteen right or left guard for the Birdie. This grids are really good. Leap David Yeah. I was felt like maybe this. Kinda back to the experience but when I see him I feel like you. See Him picking up blitzes. It seems to have a really good understanding the way he's coming off a double teams in Of a particular pass pro- So I mean I can't speak to be more experienced being a guy that go with with that so Yeah he he was gathered. The stuck out to me. Another guy I've I've heard him project and I think he actually. The senior bowl went to a guard. Played left tackle. Kansas Akeem out an edgy. Yes he's someone who? I'm a huge fan of more. People talked about him yes not he's not going to be ready to play guard year one in the NFL. He's to light and he got I think he's like three hundred. Was his playing weight right around there for the majority of the season. I'm not sure what he weighed in at the combine. But I could pull it quick. But he's his hands yet. He weighed in at three hundred pounds at the combine. You'RE GONNA want that if you're going to have him at guard you're going to want that to be up to like three ten minimum. Probably closer to three twenty. By the time he's had his actual plainly But his hands. He's a four year starter at Kansas is one of the most decorated players in like big twelve football history. It just happened that he played at Kansas so it doesn't matter. He's his hand real active. He's got excellent feed. He's got very high. Wariness is grateful accurate. He's really really good football player. He was very consisted on tape. The only major major issue is that his anchor is not great now in the big twelve. You can get away with that plane. Left tackle on having a bad anchor because you're playing against two hundred and thirty pound defensive ends half the time moving to guard in the NFL. It'll absolutely. They'll feast on right we if he gets drafted team like the bengals in. They're playing the steelers week one. You've got cameron heyward in front of you what you're GONNA do. So yeah. That's where the issue comes from. Now I do think that if he's if you sits learns you're too you can start to plug them in play him. He's athletic so he can play in that. That wide zone scheme get him into space. Have HIM PULL. That works in that he'll also have built himself up to be able to anchor. Better practicing against guys. Gino Atkins can only help. So that'll be really really good as well for him. I really really like him. My only concern is that. How high can you take a player? Who was a senior in college? Who's already old? It's not like he's not is not like he's raw. It's just that he's underdeveloped from a size perspective because he was never asked to put on weight in college. We've seen number two. So how high can you value player like that? I would take him relatively early. I would be more than willing to spend a fourth pick on him if I felt comfortable that after a year. I know that I could develop him. I could help him add weight. I can help him as a muscle and that he'll be ready to go after one year because I think he can be high quality starter. Yeah I'm with you on that. I think you see like you said in the zone game. He he's in great. Reach blocks on film I also thought again like Williams. I think he's he's really smart and pass protection You can see a lot of guys will a Lotta guys kick step and they got a good kick step but then they have trouble with the with the post when the guy trustworthy inside move and I felt like he was good transition. Kick step to post and being able to adjust to those sort of moves I actually I. I'm really I'm glad to talk to you about him because I you're always looking for bias when you're scouting like you're looking for your own bias and I washed my muscles. This guy's awesome. Why is nobody talking about? And then I realized his office a line coach. A guy named Luke Meadows and I I formerly worked for Luke. Meadows He was offered accord South Dakota coast when I was a graduate assistant there so I'm In my head I'm thinking okay. Do I like this guy. Because he was taught by the same guy I was. We'd like just consciously. I'm seeing everything I want to see. Because that's the guy that taught me off of line play so I'm glad to see you know somebody else On the I came out on the train with me. So I'm big Fan. Asked awesome so one guy who was Like like the Wisconsin Kid will say Was kind of big early but his kinda fallen off is Salman kindly from Georgia. Where do you think he fits into this? Why do you think He's he's fallen. I was never super super high on him. I think he's just a longtime starter at a blue. Bud Blueblood like Alabama players get the same thing right like a lot of people thought Lester cotton to be a top fifty pig. He got benched like three weeks into the ear If you played a lot of games at a big time program people are just GonNa automatically think you're good I think he's also very scheme dependent. He's very strong He plays a lot of power. Have Awesome Punch. They don't commonly see for guards But I don't think he's a great athlete. I don't think he's quick enough to deal with the smarter Twitter defensive tackles who will give you a lot of looks I also think he can at times especially against higher competition kept blowing right back into the now this unfair example because I think he was his best player in his class but Clinton Williams in the SEC. Championship game against kindly was was dominated. County couldn't touch them so there that is a concern but I do think that he's another guy that because he's played so much I think he's redshirt junior rates. He's played for like four years at Georgia. He fits into that. We can take him this late round. Use his band aid and worst case scenario. He's not it. We look for a new guard. Best case scenario. We haven't at minimum average guard that we got on day three that we can plug and play charity. Yeah it's a little confusing with him because you see him in like he looks like the biggest during the field and Drummer Jim. Yeah he's like three thirty five and But then yeah like his anchor isn't great debt. You do seem to push back in time so His tape is a little confusing Like you never never really sure what I'm GonNa WanNa see with them You mentioned lemieux from Oregon before Now lsu won the award for Best Office of Line but Oregon was was aligned. That got got a lot of talk. you know you've got Jake Hanson in there And Another person who probably just because he has a cool name but was very popular in mock drafts. Early in the process. Calvin Throckmorton What do you? What do you think about those guys? I know Throckmorton at least was down at the senior bowl as well You think any of those guys could be you know regular. Nfl Stars but the interior guys. Two LNU enhancing care I think that has the best bet to be taken early and be a very productive into your offense in the NFL. I think Hanson was good enough. I think he was consistent enough that I would be comfortable taking him in physics seventh around to me. He's either he's really really quality depth As like a sixth offensive lineman that could plug in any of the three interior spots and becomes through with him being a backup. But I think that you know he could potentially at best niche crude or be a solid quality consistent. Starting piece on my office declined by everything. He's GONNA approval. No but I do think that may be plugging him in already. Having other groups offense Lineman on my team he could be a producer with rock. It's a little bit different. He at the senior bowl played everywhere like they had him snapped. They hadn't reps garden hadn't take reps at tackle off the line with because of interest on the north. Yeah Yeah it was interesting. I think he's a good player but I think his best in the NFL has as swing tack. Will you know you're left? Tackle her Disney early in a game. You play for more than for the rest of the game. But he's not someone that I would want to rely on to be like. I think he's a great piece from NFL team. I just don't think he's GonNa be a great piece for an NFL team as a starter and quality death especially on the offense line I always breaches very very important. And having someone who can literally playoff positions is awesome but to me. He's like the best case scenario for his career is going to be like a a big. V formerly of Philadelphia Now Vita I started to flex up From Philadelphia now in Detroit. Who got a really nice contract But I think that's the best case scenario more likely than not he's just GonNa be a perennial seven. Three thousand two lineman just providing death of her civility. Yeah and those guys. Do you have a lot of value in something? I mean we're talking about the CBI's hopefully going to help a little bit with that but You know that is an issue that they haven't. I felt teams. They don't keep that many lyman in and they're going to get up. They're not going to keep in other going with eight. Maybe nine guys An end of the week. So you've gotta be able to have some flexibility there Whatever it is an and the especially being able to snap Let's it's a bigger deal than people realize it is 'cause a Lotta guys just just can't do it so you are. You're in DC. You're you cover the Philadelphia. Oh you're in Philly okay While I'm from your report Landon I'm from Texas currently reside in Philadelphia. And I'm a Washington Redskins Fan. Wow so meeting so where you were born and where you currently live. They absolutely hate the team. That your report yet. So you like to vacation in New York City But the most recent Redskins Game I've been to New York I do okay. That's not too far of a drive for yourself. Now What's going on with the REDSKINS I mean first of all Trent Williams There's lots of trade rumors. But then there's also the Trent Williams agent saying that they wouldn't even talk about treating him And I I hate to pick on you. But the but the bengals ownership is is constantly ripped in called the worst ownership out there so I I gotta ask You. What's what's going on with With ownership and how the Treating Shep Trent Williams in there. So here's how I view the the the owner separation between now I can't speak very closely to the bengals because I don't know just based off what I hear from Bengals. Fans of mines of all of the bingles. Is that Paul Brown rate. Is that correct? Mike Brooks dealer over the founder. Mike Brown's My Brown is the owner curly. Gotcha Gotcha so Mike Brown isn't he? Comes off is not someone who's super interested in winning right. He doesn't really care he just wants to use it as that. That's added the VIBE that I get from when I hear Bengal fans talk about my ground is that he's not super committed to winning. He's not gonNA go out of his way. To produce snap is out there you know. Yeah so. I don't believe that about Dan Snyder. The redskins owner. I think he's he's very interested in when he loves the REDSKINS VERY MUCH. His issue is that he has always been to invested in thinking that he's smart enough to help run a team And He lets his emotions get in the way and it can affect the teen right. He went out and said we're going to go get rg three. We need a quarterback them all these draft picks. Get get it done. He went out and he said. Hey we're going to go. Draft Wayne has that we don't know that was a bad move yet but there are going to be talking about that until doing haskins bruce himself or or dozen. So what's neither his at least done that? It doesn't seem that Brown is done yet is understand where he's making mistakes and then try and fix it Snyder went out and hired. He he fired Bruce Allin right which was a big time move. Bruce Brazil was a major issue with the redskins. He's the one who caused the rift between Drew Williams. He was If the redskins twitter account had to shut down for a couple of months because they couldn't tweet anything without getting a couple thousand HASHTAG virus Allen tweets to literally every replied The stadium was terrible. Going to game sucks. The team sucks. It was it was pretty brutal and a I would say at least seventy percent of the blame should have been put on bruce out he was fired. Dad's neither rotted Ron Vera and said. Hey you're going to do what you think is the right way to build quality. That's a huge thing. Because the redskins have never had someone like Ron Rivera who has proven to be at least not recently where you had Joe Gibbs Mike Shanahan in two thousand nine or two thousand ten coming let was twenty years fifteen years off of Super Bowl Win Rate. Ron Rivera has been to the Super Bowl. He's one to coach of the year. Awards all within the last decade which is pretty huge. So I think that's the separation between the bengals. The REDSKINS OWNER. Dan Snyder wants to win is just a he made. He forced moves. He thought would have helped the team to win when he's not a football guy. Ready never played. It is never in front office. He just became a billionaire and purchase a team Just disembodied team doesn't mean you can run whereas with Brown I get the sense that Bengal fans feel that he really doesn't care team to ever win the Super Bowl Yeah. Let's let's talk. Obviously the last two weeks have made people's opinions of him change a little bit anyway You know out there. Spending a lot of money appears to be doing what he needs to do I think he kind of hit the nail right on the head though that Snyder changes and Brown really hasn't Well I'll take that back. He has at times They have a general philosophy about things and is to build through the draft. And the packers. Were doing that for long. Time as well have started to spend more free agency so really with the bengals. I feel like you know like you know when you learn how to drive in. And they're like they tell you to maintain small adjustments like veering off. You don't make a big adjustment like that's kind of their approach to team building is all right. Well we'll just do a little something here. We're just do a little something here which it makes some sense like okay. Well let's not go radical and you know if if you're the redskins like net let's not just say on this. Haskins thing isn't gonNA work to pick two of this year. You know completely change directions. Every time you know some maybe just needs to work itself out. He did however after they hire. Marvin Lewis and Marvin Lewis came in. And you know Marvin Lewis. Kinda ran the show I think Lewis probably got a little complacent and stopped asking Brown for as much Towards the end and there was definitely some some some cheapness that affected the oft of Lyon. Losing Whitworth and Zeitler were Played no small part in the the bengals demise over the past couple of years But but yeah I mean it looks like you know. It's a delayed effect me because he got hired late but it looks like now. Maybe Taylor is pushing And Taylor opener out there and getting guys in and making some adjustments so fingers crossed In an ad say the same thing hopefully was snyder now bringing in an established football guy. You know a guy who's been there. It's well respected like Rivera. You know you. You hope that he gives him either. The rains a little bit and let him take it and make it. What's going to be because it the browns? The browns are a football family. You know and I don't big problem with Snyder's an example of you know people that ran a business and they come in and they can run a football team like like their business the browns are one of the old families? And you mentioned Paul Brown founded the for the Cleveland Browns in you know He he coached the Cleveland. Browns coach. The bengals founded the bengals obviously And you know he's a guy that bill belichick mentions like in every other interview so He is a true football guy and his family. Obviously would Mike Brown with Katie Blackburn. His daughter grew up around it. But not you know just like just like Mike. Mike Davis not not to the same extent as their father perhaps but So yeah I mean I think both Kinda look the same thing You know how much control we're going to give the coach 'cause Hopefully they both have a have the right guy in there and can can move forward with it so I think the big question is Andy Dong for Trent Wayne Straight up. Let's do it thrown William Jackson. You gotTa deal you know what? I'm not a hundred percent. Sure that's off the table with the moves. They may recently in the fact that they said they're not going to get rid of Kirkpatrick. He's only got a yellow contract they wouldn't I wouldn't shock me if they did move in but More than happy I don't Well especially with the on the roster I. I don't think get rid of other. They could give Williams the money he wants. But Hey while you're listening to this PODCAST T. Mobile was busy building the largest five G. Network in America. 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This is going to be the redskins starting quarterback in twenty twenty. I am ninety nine point. Nine percent sure There's a couple of reasons for this. One runner veer literally said it in an interview yesterday where they went out. They traded for Allen. 'cause they desperately needed the backup quarterback hall of Fame Coach. Redskins coach. Joe Gibbs once said the backup quarterback is the second most important position on the football team. They needed one pretty badly. They went out gave up a fit for Kyle. What that does is it brings in another young guy who can't compete with twin haskins through training camp but is not so talented. Like maybe Philip Rivers. would have been where people just think that okay. He's just GonNa win the job. The expectation is that Dwayne Haskins will go in win. They're going in with the thought process that he is the starting quarterback though if via training Camp Kyle Allen is just head and shoulders better than Dwayne. They'll go with him. I think that more than likely takes the option of two off the table or just in Herbert or they wanted look that way at to the only way. I think they would at all consider quarterback too is if the Cincinnati bengals decided that they wanted to take a chase young. I don't think they would like ninety. Nine point nine nine. I'm a hundred percent. Sure the take quarterback right. So odds are Dwayne has twenty twenty. He was also in my opinion. I think Dwayne has was put in the worst possible situation of all of the higher tier rookie quarterback's he was brought in by coach. That didn't want him In a system. That is not friendly to quarterbacks early. Alex Smith struggled heavily when he came over to Washington really really struggled to pick up the system early Kirk cousins and robbery. Third Colt McCoy were all horrendous earlier. J. Green System. It's a very quarterback friendly system but it takes a long time to learn and for haskins coming out of in Ohio State. Offense that is not a it was a bit of a transition now. I also say that when you see Dwayne Haskins if you go watch. The first appearance. Dwayne Haskins made week five against the giants and then look at him play the giants again week. Sixteen in his last appearance of the regular season there was no quarterback in the NFL that showed more improvement from their first week this year to last week this year that goes for Cuyler Murray that goes for Daniel Jones. It goes for drew lock Haskins was not good to start the season. He was his first three appearances. Were as emergency backup. Quarterbacks that's not good for a rookie quarterback you don't have the game plan set for you. You still haven't learned everything. Defensive are just GonNa come after you still struggle in his last games. In the last four weeks of the season Dwayne Haskins was second only air rogers in qb ratings and completion percentage. There's a lot to light from last year but you have to look at it in a vacuum and you have to understand that with context on numbers are not equal so coming in this year. I think the Redskins are going to view this as a is doing Haskins Our Franchise quarterback or not if you really struggles. Then they're probably picking top-five they're GONNA go out. Get a guy like Trevor Lawrence. Justin feels if he's average to above average there picking anywhere from like ten to eighteen. Then you're thinking okay well give it another year. We'll try and give him some more help. We'll take good player here at the next year. You know you're three in his career will really know what kind of quarterback is or if he has a major sophomore. Leap under new coaching staff. Under team that's really invested in him as the starting quarterback. Then you know you have your franchise guy. So that's kind of the situation with where Dwayne Haskins is and I would. I would bet a lot including probably my life. That dwayne Hassans is going to be the starting quarterback in twenty twenty unless Kyle is a god entering a couple of things. Number one will say is that. I'm not saying it's an easy system for quarterbacks but antidote what nine and seven and went to the playoffs as a rookie plan under under Jay. Gruden bingles roster was noticeably better than the redskins roster. Yeah yeah the very very valid point. I gotTa give me some love. 'cause we're even more than usual because we can't go away but Well we can get him to go away. They're just they're just not getting anything out of them right now. It's a bit frustrating. I don't know I. I think it might just take a little time because I think people are waiting. 'cause obviously you know people talk about. Tom. Brady was the first domino. But that doesn't mean any of the second domino and and it's going to be tough because I think everybody should be interested in Cam. But they're GONNA WANNA they're gonNA WANNA give them a physical they're gonna WanNa see him throw and you can't do that right now so. I mean something could happen late. I haven't I haven't completely given up on it. I mean I'd imagine that they're going to get some kind of draft capital. It's just it's not gonna be what it should be because I do think that Andy Dalton is still like a. You know. Top twenty five to eighteen quarterback. It's it's very obvious the bengals are gonNA move on. They're going to take a franchise quarterback Replace Dalton why don't why give up much resources at all right when you could just wait. See what comes armed is like just signed him without having the pain. Yeah absolutely and and it is certainly a sexier pickup to edit. Pr Better Eighty. Don't might win you more games this year than Cam Newton depending on what Cam Newton situation is But ended don't necessarily put butts in the seats and an even if he's not as old self people come out to see Cam Newton. And I don't even think it's debatable. Right if cabins fully healthy if you get one hundred percent game. Numerous one hundred percent eighty dollars and I still. That can be used to better quarterback. Oh absolutely absolutely in these. Quarterbacks rates have been crazy I mean you know the the the top guys top guys who are on the trade market that is going for like fourth round picks and then exactly. Didn't you guys give up in fifth round? Pick for for Allen so it's Probably THAT'S THE WINDOW. It's a pretty tight pre title window in there But yeah you know you make some good points about Haskins too and it always bug me. During the pre draft prospect process. Last year the the knock on Haskins was that he have enough experience and people wanted him to go somewhere where he could sit for a year which makes no sense. He doesn't have enough experience to. Let's put him on the bench And that's essentially what would happen with the redskins and when you're the emergency quarterback you're not getting reps in practice you know so It will be interesting. It stinks just like it stinks for everybody but that he's not get a probably end up getting OTA's But having him as the number one guy throughout camp getting all the number one reps you know having the game plan built around what he can do what he likes. Now you're putting him in a position where yet you can actually see if he is the guy giving him a chance to succeed and give them the experience like like people say you know. He didn't he didn't have enough reps. Ohio state will he's GonNa get perhaps in the NFL or it's not gonna get better by By watching Cole McCoy you know what I mean exactly and I think it's going to be huge and honesty. The quarterback play cannot get worse than it was last year especially given how dwayne improved throughout the season. So we're talking a lot about one. Ohio state one former. Ohio state quarterback The one that won other competitions. So let's Let's talk about what? What are your thoughts on Jober? Who is your job borough? Nfl Calm so when talking about allowing Michael was Miller. Tony Romo which people here are like a wonderful Tony? Romo is not a good quarterback with while. I don't remember Tony Romo was a bit of a Ed Gaze. At times in terms of how he played Sometimes as you saw some dazzling of sags making beautiful play forty yards down the field on something. That really should have happened at all. You get that from Joe Borough a lot and sometimes you also get the you try to make that play you get picked off that you didn't see that from Joe broke often but jober also wasn't playing in the NFL right. So I do think that the idea of these capabilities lacks real elite armed talent but is a very intangible based quarterback. I do think that Juba Resembles Tony. Romo a lot in that aspect. Yeah and that's that's a pretty common one of us want to hear quite a bit and Indefinitely you see we're talking about there and there's definitely a solid one so you know he is a He's a welcome new force in Cincinnati. And we're all looking very much a forward to making it official so I now I do have to admit I kind of want them to take Justin herber. Only because I have a lot of tweets saved saying that there is no plausible way. The Justice Herbert could even be considered And it would be really funny tweet those out but I do think that jober should be picky one and marketed on twitter for a while. Oh I don't even know what would happen. I mean Herbert. Jeez young anybody like I don't I. I don't even know what would happen in this in this fan base. If they didn't take Joe Bro. At this point it would be pure insanity How people would react me and maybe crazy to not lick at least be hitting it by now took to lessen the blow of it a little bit that could that could definitely get ugly Now I mentioned pro football network blue-chip scouting were working. They following on twitter or anywhere else. They can find work. Please please. Please follow me on twitter at M. V. Scouting If you have something irrational crazy to say and you don't know who to say to police tweeted me I would love to argue with you for hours is my favorite thing to do. Is My favorite pastime Jeff Legal Follow Me Adam vs gathering. 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"If you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on your short list of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash get up. Okay put your is if you were into part. Did you see what happened to Pete Carroll yesterday. Before the game. He's Carol takes one white off the old SCHNAPPS. Listen I would say l. of the legendary Marcia Brady episodes at it'd be a teen model. He Got Marsh Mercer. He wound up getting that little. How tough is that x. Would you get there and coach the game with the butterfly bandage on the ball and hit the other dude with it again. I'm coming my goodness. Cut Right Guy needs to have a mark kind of his nose to what it's worth this loss yesterday at home but not the day that he was looking for all right with that on a huge leap busy Monday. We welcome you back to another hour of getting up. Live from the seaport district at pier seventeen brought to you by chase and here we go we are getting up with ground who are feeling down had their chances answers. You need to see the decision. They made lightness game. We'll explain why they went wrong right off. The top plus. The quarterback paddle lives up to the hype. Lamar was good but that guy going places no one has ever been before and then a star is born Daniel Jones electrifying football fan base in at least one person sitting here didn't see that coming all that more in this hour. Let's go we'll start at the end of your NFL Sunday. He didn't stay up late last night. What the game this was browns and rant Cleveland First Time on Sunday night. Football in eleven years third quarter browns are up three and here's Jared Goff Cooper Cup one of the best runners in the NFL right now cooper cut at the top of this route set the corner gave him an easy route to the sideline back and forth. We'd go later in the third same score. Baker may feel getting it done. Love the throw love the play call. This got the browns right back on talk to their ahead but now there's an answer here from gop again. It's huge. Listen the line of scrimmage. This guy right now is uncomfortable and man to man all right now. Here's a huge moment of the game rams up three Browns on a four nine rex. They ran a draw. It's like do you do not know. Sport down for goodness sakes I I. I'm sorry that that's the one of the worst calls I've ever seen very stiff absolutely absolutely startling. We'll talk more about it later. In the fourth Brown's down seven on a third-down Mayfield the sacked here by clay matthews so therefore to some other rams. Get the ball back. Can they run the clock out. That's the question and the answer is no this defense for the Cleveland. Browns play good enough for them to win this game last night. Confused Jared Goff did not seem Corson to not see some defenders throwing and the browns were playing without their entire starting secondary and now Baker Mayfield does get it going this last drive. Try and get them setup for the winning or at least a tying score. That's Jarvis Landry for twenty seven yards then they're. GonNa Find Damian Rally for sixteen yards in another first down and there's a roughing. The passer puts the ball on the four yard line. I didn't goal from the four final minute down seven and look at the plays they run so I down. They get zero glitz and it's a wasted play should have run the football there to eat. Some clocking can try papa run second down. You're anticipating pressure from wait billets. He doesn't bring it. He plays on US sprint out waste of down third down. You've got Jarvis Landy right underneath right there but Baker doesn't see him in the ball goes high in a way through the tight now on fourth down. You get a little bit of a man coverage. They're gonNA doubles the receivers. There's nowhere to throw the football. You traded for dining. Odell Beckham has four downs to go to go. Titans Ballgame never once called his number very restrained decisions rams. Get the win. Let's talk down five the process of White Ryan wants. should have run at once three times. So why didn't you just didn't I know what you guys are going to try and do is talk about the play calling but it's executions the most important thing you know whatever whenever we have called we gotta do our job fair enough off and he's saying that what he should say in that circumstance he doesn't want to bury his coach three weeks into the season but at this point they run a drawn fourth and nine which as far back as we have stat which which is two thousand seven no team has ever done before and then four cracks from the four yard line they don't get it done. Ken Freddie Kitchens figure this out in my my point. Is this greenie before they fire like he's going to. He's going to figure it out at some point but it might be after they fired and it looked Dan. You talked about a a great point. They should run the ball and I down kind of hard to do that. When you don't have a running back there yeah they went to empty on first down. I go from the four. What do you even if you're gonNA throw it which you should throat. Odell Beckham in that situation. The threat is has to be there on first down. You don't even have a back in the in the backfield so there's a ton of mistakes. This guy's May look he first time head coach all the you know He. He's got that so you give them a passionate. Oh you're you have a team that has they have as much talent is anybody. In the league I mean they have a collection of town and they have a bull's eye on their back that they themselves seem to welcome right. They sort of seem to want it the way they have behaved them. Look I Freddie Kitchen these it an interesting guy but own everything thing you know and when you I should've run it through the yeah guess what he's smart but you should and I'm sorry great constraint. Yeah well cleaned up but look that's fine but you got to walk in there and you better walk in there with some things you know not just the swagger but something back it up. I did the same thing when I came the jets I wanted. Everybody know look. This ain't the same oh jets Freddie Kitchens doing the same thing. This ain't the same old browns bullet sure looked like this as I sit here in removed from the game I think the biggest thing that comes to my mind is the browns easily should have won. A football game should not have or could have won a football game. They should not have their down seven starters last night. They're they're playing the team that represented the NFC going to the Super Bowl and they're coming off rough. I two weeks right and so I give them credit to say they for most of the game they handled handled this situation row protected. Their offensive line got the bottom. Baker Sans Their defense played well but we talked about the four thousand nine draw. I WANNA go back to the fourth goal to end the football games because because you talk about coaches and how they put guys in positions to be successful or what can we do to make sure that we take advantage how wide these two defensive tackles for the rams around the tackles for the browns. You've got on your left that means. He's going to get double teamed. The whole middle of the field is going to be wide open. You got man to man coverage on your right to the tight end. Nobody has accounted for Baker Mayfield. All they had to do was one coal quarterback sneak week. Is that a Gutsy Colt absolutely but that's GONNA be a walk in touchdown or Baker feel that like Danny dimes did and take off up the middle but I want coverage bridge that listen. I've been around coaches that in that situation are prepared. They're ready for that moment and they give you the keys as the quarterback. If you see those two defensive tackles that y you go up to London scrimmage. There's a code word Sucker Sucker Kimmy the snap right now and follow your center. No absolutely I mean a quarterback always has that right yeah and you know when I look at this like Baker Mayfield. That's why he's not getting it guys. He's regressing and look I. I've seen it happen. We know why I've seen it personally happen but the confidence is is leaving. He's gotTa get it back somehow. When I look at it then you talked about. They did a better job throwing the ball in rhythm well. Why is that important. He was five of eighteen when he when he held onto the ball longer than two and a half seconds. You GotTa know your going against Donald Donald Fowler Clay Matthews. You GotTa get rid of the football and that's what I don't see enough from this office and here's more bad news. It's not going to get easier their next four games aims at Ravens at forty niners who were unbeaten then Seattle and then at the Patriots so they need to get it figured out and they need to get it figured out quickly. That's where we begin L. Where do we go next. We go to one of the most anticipated matchup of quarterback than some time at least this season that being pat mahomes on your left Lamar Jackson on your right how would pop homes fair against the Ravens second brain the deep well. Dan in the second quarter learned right away. You talk about being special just a little bit of a drift away from pressure on the ball down and then throw tinware demarcus. Robinson is going to go. That is what you call on potable. He makes forty yard passes. Look like fades later on this is just blown coverage and the nickel hardman of the top ten speed. I wonder what it's like to have a howitzer barely got off the ground and when fifty yards downfield took part in the fourth quarter the ravens down big trying to stage a comeback and Lamar Jackson. Don't throw it up. Don't throw it up. Throw the ball or from he going to say something about this. Though this is a great play by the March fourth and five you'll go down without the with the football is a tragic mistake. Give your guy a chance that Roberts did just just that later on after a chiefs punt Jackson again trying to avoid pressure and again just throwing the ball in the air and again his receiver comes up you know this is really well designed. Oh this is this is a throw it up and pray that Willy's needs you catch the obviously over two minutes to play now ravens down eleven second engulfed. This is what makes him such a threat in the open field and this is what we're being honest. He did best yesterday does try to make some plays out of the pocket. He made some guys look silly in the open field yesterday. This is the stuff that the artist that nobody can really except if you play running back there's a bunch of folks the ACC like yeah. We remember so suing kickoff two minutes to go in the game. Justin Tucker tries drop kick. It Works Perfect Ball placement. The cheese have to call a fair catch. This is what my sixty degree lob of wedge looks like I mean incredible designed by Tucker in the Ravens. The try do something different but I want to credit the rookie McColl Hardin to understand okay. I gotTa Get Position Fair Air. Catch the mixture. I don't get hit and secured possession it because then you get it back to Pat Mahomes the what they do. They is the game here will fix up the first antient shady hundred sixteen round get yards on the ground rather mahomes outdueling Jackson and their first matchup chiefs winning thirty three to twenty eight if you were watching that game it it looked a little bit at times like Lamar Jackson was trying to beat Pat Mahomes at his own game. Specifically downfield three throats fifteen yards downfield mahomes was seven of eleven for two hundred yards and two touchdowns towns to compare that to Jackson greedy who completed just eighteen percent of those throws for seventy nine yards yes so you look at those numbers and you don't emerge very impressed with what we saw from. Lamar Mar yesterday in the showdown. I don't feel there's nothing to talk about with Patrick Mahomes right. He's ridiculous and that goes without saying was I the only one who emerged more impressed with Lamar Jackson. I mean this is a guy who still it'll hasn't played much more than half of a season. He obviously can do things that I've never seen a quarterback to in my life that run that we just showed there is only one of several plays that we saw the passing passing game is getting better as he goes along so good team he played against yesterday. I Dunno emerged more confident in the Ravens yesterday as opposed to less. I'm staying the same because I'm very confident if in this team but L. talked about this guy was trying to match Lamar was trying to match PAT mahomes well. That's impossible. Nobody in the League could but what I think it was. I think it was Greg Roman trying to match Andy Reid show how smart I am. Are you kidding me. Don't don't do that. He's a different guy. You don't have pat malls you Lamar Jackson who is a heck of a football player but do what he does best. Where's where's the three tight end stuff. We're all that where's the ground and pound that you've been killing Elon people with Mark Ingram. They had no answer for Mark Ingram. was there a little element here. Dan you think of outsmarting themselves they were going to point conversions and shooing field goal opportunities the all this because they're going up against the Kansas City team they figure they have to score a lot of points to be. I would imagine there are some analytical evidence behind it to say. Hey Go for two against this team if you intimidate. They're going to score this many points. I WanNa say this though Lamar looked good yesterday but this is what happened we need to credit the chiefs defense a little bit here like like chiefs kingdom. I got you. This defense showed up yesterday. They gave up two hundred and seventy yards for the first three quarters of the football game till they kinda secured it. They got physical with Hollywood Brown. At the line of scrimmage. They never allowed the ball to go up over the top. which was the case? The first two weeks they zone blitzed Lamar in this offense took away some easy throws put also got pressure and their second level made that offense play patient if we're going to crush the chiefs defense at times when they don't play well we gotta love on a little bit and they rose up yesterday very quick. I know you're go ahead. What's your no. I'm just saying the great thing is knowing that you have that vaunted. Chiefs defense gives everybody buddy in the league hope because I don't believe in that defense. I was excited to see yeah. They zone pressured him and all that just the way Clinton used to do and back in the day in the ACC and when they used to beat him all right but guess what you're sitting back run that ball Greg Roman help for the chiefs run all at this team. I'M GONNA leave it there because I want. We haven't even seen Aaron Rodgers yet L. Let's change that now exactly Aaron Rodgers and the packers facing the broncos at home and shocker. We're going to start off this broncos. Hollywood penalty. They jumped off side so it's a free play for Aaron Rodgers and Dan well he does Aaron Rodgers saying Marquez Vol candling. How many times have we see this over. The last fifteen years four hundred eighty three play Rogers is going to find somewhere launched downfield second quarter to twenty-seven left same score flacco looking to pack suppressed and Smith got all up in him three sacks on the day and eventually the packers recovered the loose ball so they finished with six acts later on it's Rogers to Aaron Jones Jones and they take a seven point lead into that points off turnovers. That's what matters in the NFL. I don't care how many turnovers you get score over. It's nice job. Iron Jones Rogers was not asked to do much in fact he rebelled rebelled afterwards at how clean his uniform was because well the defense for the Broncos is not quite the defense of the broncos. We've become accustomed to without being said you you see the packers forced three turnovers on the broncos and if you're a glass half empty type of person you might say how despite all that only win this game by eleven points. Are you concerned with the the packers offense I am. I was all off season. I still in here's the reality so matt leflore comes over as their head coach and his strength because I know coastal flora I've played under two times is is being able to look at a defense throughout the week and then figure out how to attack that and so we schemes them that I fifteen or twenty plays a game for the packers right. Now is outstanding standing the past two weeks they've had twenty or so placed the start the game and they scored nineteen points and then ten points all sudden. This team starts to fall off. They don't right right now. They don't have the counterpunch. They have their big haymaker to come out with but there's no counterpunching. We see this offense struggle first quarter. This offense is the seventh ranked offense in the NFL fell quarters two three and four the thirtieth ranked offense in the NFL earlier on the short praised Andy Reid for how he's able to get through a game and figure out okay. Your defense is doing this so I have to do that and he's prepared for it. That's where this offense needs to get to now. There's three no and that's great but they're getting carried by their defense and it is early on in him. Aaron Rodgers are still figuring each other out but if we get into mid October and this is still an issue then that's gonNA hinder this football team because this defense is only going to be able to slow down offenses consistently for so long. They gotta get counterpunch at some point. You're talking about a packers fan where the defense is the strength. What a time to be alive. I mean greedy. What world is this is certainly play a place that Aaron Rodgers is probably wanted to live in for a long time. Let's go from the aging superstar to the star who was born yesterday. Ladies and gentlemen again. You Daniel Jones in Tampa his first start and here he is in the second quarter taken the read option running into the corner and the giants are in a ballgame now. Here's the bad news for the giants yesterday. Saquon Barkley going down. He's in a walking boot. He's got high ankle sprain an MRI today REX. How bad is that well. I mean it usually is horrible 'cause that usually you're better off. Sometimes breaking your ankle. That's probably a four week injury but like you say he's Superman. We'll see what happens now. Who Will Superman yesterday. Daniel Jones Jones was here is making Evan Ingram right up the sideline. That's Jones's first touchdown passes Ingram on the crossing shallow and this is what he does best brief in short. Let him go long. Here's a play that Dan did a nice diagram of earlier. Fabulous throw from Daniel Jones to Sterling Shepard in the corner of the end zone and the giants are within three Korea twenty-eight twenty-five they'd been down eighteen points in this game. There's under four minutes left now. Giants down six Daniel Jones here. It is your first chance at a two minute drill trying to win the game commanding certainly had a lot of those over the course of time and he's coming up throwing. This is the story though comfort in the pocket confidence in the pocket to know where to go with the football final receiver receiver and deliver it it all boils down to this a fourth down and five with a minute to go. Moses Parts the Red Sea Daniel Jones takes off giants. Take the league. That's the play Baker. Mayfield didn't make you a few minutes ago and there it is for the giants but they leave time on the clock for this man and what did they Mike. Evans had eight catches one hundred ninety yards and three touchdowns. It's going to set up what should have been a game winning chip shot for Matt Gay but with four seconds left. Only we leaves it. Just write a heartbreaking defeat for the buccaneers gay had been four for four on field goals before that kick with but that will look at this look at Saquon. He is in on the celebration. Let me give you the numbers on Daniel Jones twenty three of thirty six three hundred thirty six yards and four total touchdowns he ran for two when he threw a two and we all comment that as we watch that highlight together this morning before he came on the air the enthusiasm from alive look genuine that moment didn't it looked like he li- Kinda saw saw himself in that moment and knew the joy of that moment actually feels like when you're the player and it was all like watching almost like a father and a son of a a friend where it was like I'm so happy for you so so we not going to go back and show you all of rex was the one who predicted this what happened the Danny Jones would be that sixth pick that he was going to be a great player. Were even used surprised by just how good he was yesterday well. I was surprised that they've made the move when they did they'd be ready and and he would have this kind of performance formats because I truly believe in this guy but to me who could predict a guy is going to have that day. Look Sam Darnold. Everybody's excited. He never had that that this kind of day one one time to me. This was amazing the fact he brought his team back. You talked about the poison pocket. He showed on that last drive all that's that's after he had two turnovers in the pocket work the Strip sack any still showed that kind of poise unshakable listen the reality is. I watched thirty six games a visit Duke. He never looked like this now. I think what you're seeing is a guy that not being honest. He never looked like this and I was wrong about about this kid. His performance yesterday was absolutely spectacular. You cannot find a flaw in it. He threw the football exactly where it needed to go when needed to go there and he made the most important play the game. It's easy for a quarterback to sit back there and throw carpeted. Take a sack or something like that but the decisiveness when he saw that the whole open up that was on display from the first third down of the game the decisiveness that kid showed so he was he was incredible and I don't care if it was against the the packers the bears your ravens defense the bucks it's thirty two teams in the NFL and he was outstanding it was and I the only thing I disagree with. I saw all those traits when he was. He had no no receiver that can get separation. He had no offense align but I saw at the time this is a warrior and that's always a who breaks a collarbone and missing only two games like this kid's a stud and ask for the collarbone that he broke in college was against northwestern eastern which is mild to moderate so I watched that game I saw him beat northwestern and back to back years and I thought he did look that good in those games. I jokingly said if you'd only seen the northwestern tape on Daniel Jones. You traded up to take him number one now. It's not crazy here. Obviously it's one game but it was a very very impressive. I mean that's all we can go off of right now one game but we also have have to go up to four preseason games right because all he's done his answer the questions that have been thrown up there. Oh it's the first right that's only the preseason well now. It's a regular season game on the road. Without your best play eighty-three percent completion rate in those freeze you can't do more that he's done to this point as we continue big story this morning developing as we speak Jalen Ramsey sudden sick call watch the Jags do now we will ask. Mike Tannenbaum and he will provide the answer plus. The Rams approved the three and the reason to worry in. La this morning you've got questions. We've got what answers you're watching get up on. ESPN in case you didn't see this on Saturday. This is rutgers football scoring a touchdown and then after the celebrations. What kind of celebration is that. That's that's New Jersey for you. Ah That's something you do your twin brother. That's a celebration. That's after a touchdown. What does he do when the quarterback throws a pick on what the heck they're doing with friends like that. WHO NEEDS EMMY COMING UP. In five minutes the browns decisions at the end of the game continue to go under the microscope five minutes after that the saints maybe the Best Day of anyone in the NFL and then more on Daniel Jones. A star is born. It's a busy morning and we're glad you've chosen a started with us. You're watching get it up on. ESPN growing a business is hard especially when you're wasting hours every day moving data from emails to spreadsheets to your crm to wherever else shouldn't that kind of stuff just happen without you. Lifting a finger zap beer can help Zappia is the easiest easiest way to automate your work. 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Let's bring in our front office. Insider Mike Tantamount for his perspective and I'm over here reading this and I'm using air quotes that you can't see he's sick. They're actually ways though for them to substantiate his claim of being ill am. I right absolutely L. They could certainly send over medical people the trainer the doctors you'll recently we saw that. Sam Darnold had mononucleosis nucleoside with the New York jets. The jets sent their medical department over there to help them so they can certainly start by saying Hey Jalen. If you're really sick we're going to send our medical people over and that's when the real dialogue presumably would begin okay so let's just say for the purposes of this that he is actually sick and he's doing what we think he's doing and he's trying to force his way out. What then do you do if here in the front office of the Jaguars this whole start this whole episode started when they had that blow up a couple of weeks ago I would bring him in. I'd bring in his representatives other areas years of influence in his life people that report to him and say like we saw what happened now. Let's focus on why it happened. There's economic issues that we could work really hard to solve more importantly. What are they not. Economic issues here that bothering you and we're going to get in a room. We're GONNA work really hard to solve those problems. If you're too good of a player you mean way too much is to us and we don't want you to leave so let's close the door and lets air out. Our grievances work hard this album so you think that they're still in a place where this relationship is salvageable salvageable aw L. I think it's really important. There's two sides to this on the one hand. If you're the Jaguars you're going to be judged by the other fifty two players in your locker room. If you let somebody kick and scream theirself of the organization or say that you're sick and now get rewarded with the trade. What do you think the fifty two other players are going to do when they're unhappy. They're gonNA use the same tactic. It sounded an effective way you to run an organization however on the other side you also have Jalen Ramsey. He has to be careful because he doesn't. WanNa be viewed by his teammates that he's laying them down there. Wanting into government you is off to a really good start and he wants to be there and be known that as a player. That's there for his teammates so both sides have to move with caution here and both sides have a lot to lose again. Mike Tannenbaum reacting to the latest news from Adam Schefter Jalen Ramsey attempting to possibly force his way out of Jacksonville by saying he's too sick to to show up at practice and greedy who among us hasn't been sick the day after the Super Bowl. I'll thank you very much for the very packed weekend weekend right with. NFL Action and there's so many storylines that's quite a few. We haven't even gotten to yet this morning so I'm GonNa put sixty seconds on the clock and let's touch on a few of these other stories around the League we opened with the browns today and there was so much attention paid to the things the browns didn't do last night. We haven't talked much about the rams sixty seconds on the clock. Are you worried about Jared Goff. Right now now because the coaching that is there and the talent that is around him jared. Goff is going to continue to play good football now. The turnovers are a little bit abnormal for for him but I would say this. This offensive line is missing some pieces and he's having to move a little bit more and I think that's what we saw last night was when he's got a move in the pocket a little bit it. He gets a little bit loss with where his eyes. WanNa go to so Sean mcvay needs to figure out where this offense is with this kind of patchwork offensive line but I have no concerns about Jared Jared Goff moving. He's playing defense. The entire starting secondary was out with injury last night in Cleveland and GOP certainly did not light them up. What did you see rex no. That's you know if if you ask me the same question I am really concerned because goths a different guy at home. He's he's a looks like a superstar on the road. He's averages can be and you're going against all four starters. were out in the back end for. Cleveland right and that's what you put out there so I would be concerned with that. I'm also concerned. Obviously surly sale so there's the brand's needs to be at home. Is the point you made in. Our meeting is warning in the playoffs. The saints may have some ideas about that they go into Seattle yesterday they know drew brees and they still emerged with a win was actually a great day for them in every way yesterday because in the NFC South Tampa loses in crazy fashion Atlanta lost ask yesterday. Carolina loss yesterday. Carolina got a win but they're one and two so let's put sixty seconds on the clock and talk about the saints even without drew brees for this period of time. Are they still children to win the NFC South's. GonNa win that South because I mean you got some cream puffs over there so to me yes. They're going to win it now. was I totally blown away by Teddy Bridgewater and you know I've been critical of I felt okay about him. He was smart enough to throw it to the running back anything down the field not so much but he didn't have complete nine balls running running back for ninety yards. So that was impressive. I was impressed with their defense. Even though they gave up four hundred yards passing but they had a big turnover for scored Mario Davis's playing outstanding and then the special teams get scores so to me it was a team effort and I was impressed with and that's the thing the team right. This is why the saints were such a Popular Super Bowl pick. It was really good. There are super bowl pick with drew brees but if you take them off this is still very capable team good offensive line good defensive line and a lot of skill position teaching people that can make place so we'll win the NFC south. There's certainly the front runner right now and I said Leslie. Teddy Bridgewater is going to keep the team afloat. Drew brees come back. I hate to even say the breeze injury could wind up being a blessing in disguise he sort of fell off at the end of the season if he's fresh or maybe it's better now. Let's get one REX's. GonNa like a lot. How about them bills bills? Mafia fired up right now they're three and they sit right next to New England at the top of the AFC east. The quarterback is not spectacular but he's making plays that defense is legit so I will ask the question sixty seconds on the clock. Rex Ryan are the Buffalo Bills Legit just like I said last week when I said yes they are legit and they they are a playoff consider and and you're right it's because of that defense that defense can play against anybody in the league and you'll find out this week when they when they play New England because they're going to be way more competitive than people think I also like the fact that Josh Allen just keep getting better and better and better and so I like the bills and and look they play without the running back at that guy healthy this team's legit. Josh reminds me a little bit of like this. Shawn Watson like he just makes some incredible play's at times you make some bone. Eddie the plays he kept Cincinnati in the game. You know remember the movie dumb and Dumber at the end when he comes back you just that's just shown in the Buffalo Bills Right now. Just just get the game to the fourth quarter with a chance and he's got a chance to go in this football. That's what he's doing right now in in credit this team the buffalo bills are legit their defense like you said coach. Is You play with anybody. They got sixteen chances because of that defense well. They'll get a shot at Tom. Brady this weekend. We'll see what they're able to do. What they've eaten. The jets were winless. The bengals were winless and the giants who who if not for a missed field goal yesterday would be winless but they've played the teams on their schedule. We'll see what they are. Meanwhile busy morning and a lot of other places as well. Let's get up again. Let's do it with start with the WNBA view NBA Semifinals Jasmine Thomas scored twenty nine and her back court made courtney Williams added another seventeen and the sun beat the sparks to sweep the series in advance for the WNBA finals for for the first time since two thousand and five will face the winner of either semifinal series between the Washington mystics and the Las Vegas Aces speaking of playoff implications Haitians cubs had a dreadful weekend against the cardinals Chicago game into the ninth up to one but then Paul Goldschmidt double gave Saint Louis a three two lead that marked the cubs six straight loss the last ask five by a run and the win clinched spot for the cardinals it was also their first game sweep at Wrigley since May of nineteen twenty one I remember it well and and lastly the no one in baseball as hot as the brewers they don't have Christian Yelich and it doesn't doesn't matter rather they're seventeen and four in the months they also swept the pirates thanks to a pair home runs and they're trying to at this point continue to keep pace in the standings and we'll take a look at that because you've gotTa love where we're at in baseball right now. There's still a lot to be decided. In the playoff picture Dennis central rather do team race at this point between those cards and the brewers in the National League wild card race got Milwaukee in the nationals tied for the top spot four board games out on the cubs four and a half up on the mets and how about this. There's certainly not trying to be in the thirty are they clinched the Al.. West the Astros thanks about George Springer had an I three home run game of his career and then of course Justin verlander just did what he does. Springer's home runs came in the first four innings of the game Houston Silla something to play for for though in the final week of the season namely the best record in the American league and they are battling it out and it is a good one with those Yankees. They're up a have a game for the best record in baseball. You got the dodgers on the other side. They've got the best record in the National League two games back in Houston again. Remember this is important because of course the team that finishes with the best record occurred gets homefield throughout the postseason speaking of which we do have a game with those playoff implications coming up for you tomorrow night and ESPN at the Indians. They're just trying to keep their wildcard hopes alive in Chicago against the white sox. That's a good team to do it against Cleveland tied with the race for the second wildcard spot in the Al.. You're going to see that tomorrow tomorrow night eight eastern on ESPN and has always live on the ESPN APP still ahead on get up. It's a big Monday for struggling bears quarterback Mitchell trubisky ski. How do the bears get him going. Berg McFarland will join the program and detail also coming up ally who Daniel Jones amazes in his his debut what impressed our friends here the most they were Jones inform a love Jones and get up and just rolling on this is a monumental day to the New York football giants so changing of the guard the quarterback position well. What a play by Joe. He that the Bergman spot it comes down to this to the the first game of the season performance by Daniel Jones. What a day and look. I mean Daniel Jones. Let's say a lot of things about him here. You see this on your screen. They were down eighteen points in this game at something he Li- manning never overcame oprah forty four as you see in games. They're getting blown out out. Daniel Jones finds a way to win it. We've talked a lot about it this morning. I here's the deal rex has been all in on Daniel from the beginning. You had a lot of questions and you're certainly not alone. You've seen what he did in the preseason very impressive. You saw what he did. Yesterday couldn't be better. Are you now all in on Daniel Jones. I mean certainly a lot more that I was in the past. Yeah I mean he's looked in the preseason and yesterday better than really ever did in college. I mean I did his game against Virginia Tech last year. When he came back from the collarbone caller bone who's okay and the reason he was okay and then there's moments in the season last year's last year of college and maybe maybe Miss Undervaluing doing how bad the kids were at Duke around in was part of this but yeah I mean this kid has there's nothing I can find to point out on tape that he's not flourished I in getting the ball out being athletic in space throwing it accurately throwing get with anticipation rising up in moments when you've got to be able to calm yourself but handling again. I always look at it like this like the chimps were stacked against in yesterday right. I mean you're replacing legend on the road. You lose your best best player. You're missing your your best receiver Golden Tate yet. You still found a way to bring your team back. In so many ways you had the chance to fail and you you double down and not only succeeded yet when he says the best player for those who didn't see the game saquon. Barkley got hurt the first half and didn't play for the entirety of this comeback so rex I. I think I'd like to ask you this this. Why did you see this coming. We were sitting there the day after the draft in the whole world. It wasn't just the whole world was piling on this pick and you came out. There and you said this was the right right thing to do and he's going to be a really good player. Why did you know that I knew some behind the scenes things about him. I knew is retention was unbelievable like ridiculous which of course Chatou have as quarterback so the intangibles being an MVP of a basketball camp when he when he had a broken right hand had to use his left hand the fact Jay Bilas when I talked to him he had to NBA players yet he put Daniel Jones on the best player on the team and he would never take a playoff at his court so I knew those those intangibles about him but I also saw the skill set the athleticism and all that green. I gotTa tell you this so got went to go. Get My Daniel Jones Jersey yesterday and I'm like man. I couldn't get him why because they read triple X. Anyway stretch fabric saying it tight thing so who's that going to be a euro cut. It'd be banned again. I'd say right now. That's a heck of a line. There are going to be a lot of Daniel Daniel Jones jerseys walking around this town and all over the country after that performance yesterday. Let's get more on that right now. L. is standing by well. They vary special guests and they certainly our good good friend. BOOGER McFarland is going to be on the call Monday night football on the boob today. We're going to get to that game just a minute because it's GonNa be a big one for Mitchell trubisky but when you're watching Daniel Jones yesterday in his debut what impressed you most about it well. I think it was the poise is high played the game oftentimes with young players especially quarterbacks. We focus on their physical attributes. I don't don't do that. I think quarterbacking is played from the neck up the ability to process information and make decisions quickly. The moment wasn't too big for Daniel Jones when you watched him in the two minutes situation nations throughout the game no turnovers taking care of the football but the ability to process information quickly and get the ball to the playmakers. He did like he was the veteran quarterback. That's how you know he can play. I don't care about all the speed and height I wanna get it can make good decisions and take care of the football because you had the entire organization your hands at all times and he did a phenomenal phenomenal job of their. It's good for NFL whether you like the giants are not good for the NFL for the giants at the very least to be good enough right eight to be in a show Let's run the hurry up okay and I'm GonNa Start with a few performances we saw yesterday in particular who has become the human cheat code that of course is Patrick Mahomes. I mean just I again fantastic against the ravens. What specifically Booker makes pat so good. Well just like we talked about. Daniel Jones he can process information Asian quickly and then you add on top of the physical attributes. Patrick Mahomes has a Halis her as an arm he can make throws at other quarterbacks can't make in the national football league and it's so calm. Tom And it's so easy and it's so smooth for him. How about Teddy Bridgewater got his first real significant start for the saints of course drew brees out and they go up to Seattle and they get a win. How competent should be entering the keys over to bridgewater for the time being well. I think it can be very competent because they play team. Football you get to of non office of touchdowns deontay hairs punt return Vaughn Bell with a scoop and score it was complimentary football because you don't have the future hall of Famer and drew brees and Teddy Bridgewater. They just had software you man good job moving the offense up and down the field score one for the coaching cliches offense defense special teams but truly that's what it went into that game and last year we said it before you're on the call bears redskins on Monday night. I'm sorry let's do browns. I we do have to talk about the concern level for Cleveland. Are you concerned there one one one and two at this point no not really you know everybody's. GonNa Panic because the expectations that we all set for the Cleveland Browns I say it from the get-go. You have to learn learn how to win. In a situation like last night pretty kitchen Baker Mayfield they will learn how to get in these situations and then thrive in them and have success but it's a learning process talent doesn't make you a winning football team understanding how to make plays in crucial situations. That's what make a good football team and the only way to practice that is to get into them like they did last night now. We're certainly seeing the folks here on this desk today kind of say that it looked like Freddie kitchens was gripping a little bit okay. Now we can get to Monday night football. It's bears redskins ends and all is going to be on Mitchell. trubisky hasn't been great for the bears this season after a whole heap of expectation. So how did the bears fix him well well. I think first they have to identify the problem and the problem was they were trying to do too much all off season to try to put in a game plan and helpful young quarterback and I think to a man they admitted admitted that the volume of offense was too much for everyone to handle so I think tonight you're going to see the offense. That's GonNa be simple. He's going to be basic. They're going to get the ball into the playmakers hands hands and they're not going to put too much volume of information and offense on Mitchell trubisky and I think less will be more their motto. I think is going to be let's do less better and Mitchell going against his poorest risky as defense. I thank you bounce back tonight. Moped unless Maserati really quickly those speaking of the Redskins Gins because of what we saw with Daniel Jones. Do you anticipate that the redskins might turn it over Dwayne Hassans a little sooner that they want to know. I don't think so because case keenum the starting to look like Minnesota case he's going back in the day and playing like he did when he was in Minnesota and you dwayne. Haskins hasn't played a lot of football and so I think we have to remember. He is still young on his metro station process so I don't see any situation right now. Maybe later in the season gained twelve thirteen or whatever maybe they'll give him some room but right now case keenum is not not the problem in Washington. DC and he's GonNa continue being a quarterback for this team also but you're going to realize this when you wash about it is I was. GonNa say you wanted to shamelessly plug Lsu but we had a bar over your shirt and it was just perfect for this Georgia fan but nevertheless there he is go tigers. I suppose you'll be Joe Berle Joey Borough Jill Football. You'll see booger. McFarland in a suit tonight bears redskins. ESPN's Monday night football game recovered starts with Monday night countdown down at six eastern with kickoff eastern on ESPN and as always on the ESPN APP Tuesday morning on get up can Mr Bisky actually bounced back against the redskins. We will know we'll have complete coverage of Monday night football. What's behind the eagles slow start. We'll get a live report from Philly and how hot is Jim Harbaugh seat after what happened to his team. We're going to ask Paul Finebaum and I imagine Greenie. He won't be mincing words meantime. I want to show you one catch from yesterday. I was watching this whole game yesterday. Shamed for me but look at this catch by Josh Gordon you Danny come on. This looks like Josh Gordon from years ago right the freak athleticism on the sideline turning the body making the contested catches athletic enough to get both feet down never juggling. He wouldn't be watch out. It was unreal now. This was a game in which the Patriots just took apart the jets and Luke Falk but we have a little sneaky Hembo question here. Layton the program but it's a good one before Luke Falk yesterday. who was the last quarterback to face Tom? Brady as a twenty point underdog. That's the question. The answer is coming up next next get up on ESPN. I get up as brought to you by Mercedes Benz the best or nothing and buy pizza. It's a hot no one out-pizzas the hut the WNBA semifinals continue tomorrow night on ESPN two campaigns at twenty eight points for Las Vegas last night as the ace is forced to game four against the mystics tomorrow night nine eastern on ESPN two you will see it you can also watch it live on the ESPN APP. Now I had the misfortune of of watching the jets play the Patriots yesterday ten in that Game Luke Falk was the quarterback of the jets because of illness and injury and they were more than twenty point favorite so it brings up the question. who was the last quarterback to face? Tom Brady as a twenty point underdog Dan Patrick Guess. I get a four o'clock in the morning to correct the show. Hello Oh it's me it's thousand eleven against the Indianapolis Colts on the road at New England. We own eleven. We push that game to onside kick. Go on strike. Takeaway lows Brady threw for like Fifty Armand. Thrown for three sixteen are you. I need to stand over Task Brady one where another we did that to Dan because we're that kind of couple in the meantime we do have relatively interesting news here L. Yes so we started this. Show with Adam. Schefters report jalen Ramsey has informed the Jaguars right that he is going to be sick or that. He has the flu and he probably won't be attending practice this week and of course we had emojis is because of the timing he quite famously is trying to work his way out of Jacksonville so new is a Josephina Anderson tweet saying essentially he is actually sick at this is just coincidental as how long this plays out. She says her understanding. It's day to day at the moment. All I know is I can't practice. Today is the quote from Jalen Ramsey and Doug marrone. We'll talk today at some point this they will send actors will come Sam. darnold Tannenbaum brought it up earlier today right so you know I've been a player before. I've called in the team. Says what are your symptoms will send some moments of medicine. We will see what they wind up doing. This was a terrific day rex. We will see next Monday so fast. I wanted to get traded to C._N._N. Or I'm just saying I feel a little better.

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NFL Week 12 Recap, Fastest 2 Minutes And Football Guy Of The Week

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"On today's part of my take football week twelve recap all of it. We're in the best week of the year for sports while maybe not the best we could sports but best. We can football because football every single day for the next seven days. Eight days nine days whatever it may be more right in the middle. I love it I love it all right. So we're going to recap all week twelve. We're excited A pretty good Sunday not great but a pretty good some good games We have a football guy the week we have. WHO's back and we've fastest two minutes before we do all that dough? Pardon my takes brought to you by the cash APP. Aws listen up because we have a massive news for all Degenerate gamblers out there. CASH APP is coming in white hot this upcoming cyber Monday. Twelve to creating super bad beats Monday and blowing out. Our regular bad beats Monday by hand selecting the worst beats to give away ready for this. PFC Hit me. Twenty five thousand dollars in cash. Holy Holy Shit. 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It's clear Brandon Walker Allen has shoved into the starting role tooth soon pushing the broncos further up the draft board for twenty twenty twenty verbal mean T.J. No one absolutely no one not a soul. The Buffalo Bills Cohen Circles Circle the wagons bills twenty broncos three and west. Let's kick it to my good friend. Trey Wingo who's in the house which is filled with rich Mahogany. Ready for the bears. Giant's game it was Mitch Palooza by the Lake on Sunday is the bears. Were keeping it old school featuring a subpar quarterback in an elite Defense Pat Shurmur is in a giant glass case of emotion as giants fans aren't even met their impressed. How bad he's coach? This team Daniel Jones told US teammates remain calm. We've got to keep our composure composure. As he hooked up with stay Golden Pony boy tate for a late score. The giants couldn't sniff out a winning for quarters because I hear that bearskin smelter periods. And you're you're not my boy blue today. Hey trae are Jones and manning brothers no yes bears nineteen giants giants fourteen and diarrhea town where the steelers met the bengals. And Mike Tomlin told Mason Ramsey. Rudolph if you ain't got no Giddy giddy out my way as the big face quarterback was benched in the third quarter in relief. Came Devlin. Hodges who through Gordon Bombay's to his receivers making the bengals secondary look like it was smoking crack Tyler. The Creator Boyd was a fucking walking paradox. With one hundred yards receiving on the bengals otherwise anemic offense that looks poised for an odd odd future. Can the steelers catch Tomlin Sanity. Down the stretch steeler sixteen bengals ten some spread. Don't big breezy. Where the Saints Offense Look? Highly caffeinated again led by a tall glass of mountain drew. Michael Thomas put up a junior bacon making double fifty burger and receiving yards and the grill was jared cooking up the Burgers all afternoon as a tight end at one hundred score himself. The panthers offense was no pussy Zicot's either as they got a late John Travolta from Christian slater McCaffrey who couple broken arrow. The game came down to kick her. So as Carolina's Joey Walk. Doc Don't you look like he was a member of the poo poo balls as will triple Lutz. No landing to cap off the winning six thirty four thirty one in the meadowlands where the raiders tried to town. The jets Derek Carr drove his car into a Bryant. ooh ooh no offense to my personal friend. Keith Moon Rip. As Oakland left their offense at a black hole Robbie Louie Anderson got fat off the raiders secondary eating a large plate of gangrene eggs in Sam. darnold that is Jon. gruden tried to wash this loss down with a long. That bottle of Mike's art hard. Lemonade as the raiders. Were truly thinks. Truly for being a sponsor back jets. Thirty four raiders. Three off the corner Jameis Winston Tampa Florida such find side to see. It's not seat Dame Quinn can stop God win t the eighties and the media is derangement syndrome box. Thirty five Dhaka's twenty-two we weren't really EH teams route John Maryland where the lions faced off against the Redskins a Mitch sold the team protests into stance and Dwayne Wade Hoskin Brockton. He got his ass out in the post game locker room for taking not drug Bo. Chicks Dick Scarborough's had another big day and Logan Paul. Thomas must hung out in the suicide forest also known as a redskins into all we are is tossed in the wind. Hopkins kicked came winter. And Jeffrey Dahmer Driscoll can of all out as he murdered Alaska. The Lion Seasons Corpse redskins sixteen the Lions every winter between the months Johnson Tober through March. Thousands of dolphins are confined and brutally killed in small towns across Japan. mm-hmm sounding rods beneath the water surface interfere with the Dolphin. Sonar once disoriented and he closed within the nets Dolphin's panic mothers and babies call out in distress as they are separated voiced it up and dragged off seemed to be mercilessly hacked to death. Dolphins Twenty twenty four browns forty one in Philadelphia where personal I do is win. Switch wince was in a lot of Tepe eight as the Eagles offensive line. Didn't hold hold up for their franchise quarterback for chess quarterback boom shot penny hardaway caught. Pete Carroll's I as they bonded over their love of giving improper benefits. It's not so Doug Funny Peterson in Philadelphia right now as the Eagles have the beats seahawks. Seventeen Eagles nine got great white north. We'll break off. Hamilton in tiger-cats had a friendly meet with the Winnipeg blue bombers three different quarterbacks. The Blue bombers took two hundred twenty two yards passing. That's what I call. The dude did giving the blue bombers pop on the way to victory at feels like Nineteen Ninety the peg as Mike. Oh say can you see out told Hamilton head coach Orlando Orlando Canada steinhauer leading the tumble bees to the first grade cup championship in three decades. Blue bombers thirty three tiger cats twelve or Canada. Got It off forty three roses twelve Ruta right week. Twelve in the books we all night. Actually we do a game. I always say that though you know it feels good. But that's just bonus football. We watched football day and it feels like we accomplished something. I mean end of the week so week twelve I was gonna say the worst part about the season ending is isn't the fact that we don't have next Sunday to look forward to. It's that when the Monday night game. Stop that that's a tough pill to swallow. It always coincides with the ballgame stopping. So what do I do on Monday nights now. You got nothing to look for big Monday. That's true yeah big Monday. I got big money and then the championship Game College Football on the thirteenth. Oh He's got big Monday. Okay Okay so you can watch us by the way parcel gold dot com slash. PMT We are live right now. Let's start as we always do with the Sunday night game and then we work backwards. I'm not going to say the F. Word but ideal say this on Friday that I'm going to continue to consider the packers semi Af. Were no because their defense is not for real and their offense. Does this thing where you now have to to cases of it. The charger chargers game. And this game. So it's basically just west coast where they looked atrocious. They looked so bad right. Aaron Rodgers sucks on the west coast. I was running the numbers on him. I I think he's something like one in five in the last ten years well west coast. Here's here in California. He's a cowboy. He goes home he gets too comfortable. Here's the problem. PF T it looks like the forty niners the best team in the NFC. which I think everyone's been kind of flirting with for the last for the whole season? Yeah but it really is kind of cemented the last few weeks. And then if there if there's you want to say maybe there's a team that that could be challenging them for that. Oh It's the sea hawks. Guess what both those teams the West Coast. Yeah so the packers WanNa go to the Super Bowl you gotta go to the West Coast. We've looks like that. We can't help but flirt with the forty. niners Jimmy's play. He's that smile the DNC commence the couch and figured out that it seems pretty easy to to put your quarterback in a position to win is just run a lot of bootlegs run shit like in every single play to a fake hand off to play action into bootleg and then you just have a brand new pocket and you're out in the middle of nowhere you can make a clean throw. He's he's like the only coach coach that is figured out like it's not necessarily. I don't WanNA use the word rinky-dink but I think a lot of coaches think it's rinky-dink too. Many bootlegs make my guy says sock it. You don't have to so Shanahan. The Shanahan Way Jack Plum they show is look good on the bootleg. You see Mike Shanahan in the booth today and is could ever read like a like a Lizard lizzard that was number two million. His skin just adapts to whatever color shirt. He's wearing the red to be that color right now but Yeah the forty. The niners are very very much real. It's not again this is not like some new thing that we've stumbled upon. It's just when you watch them time and time again now. They're playing a lot more games on on primetime. Their defense is fucking ferocious. They feel like they have all the guys who can run like four four forty s and also oh are two hundred and eighty pounds and can shed every single offensive lineman. I think that's a force buckner. Might be the scariest defense alignment and Emma Bosa. Almost able to shrugs so their their defense is incredible. And then Oh yeah looks like when you get your Pro Bowl tight end. Maybe the best tight end in the League Greg Kitto back. Your offense looks a little bit more competent than it did with his absence. You see the news about him that he was. He was playing with a broken bone in his ankle. I'm sure he was. Yeah which actually. That's not as bad as a sprain though right a broken an ankle true. You'd almost rather break it get surgery. So yes Alabama ankle. But he's out there and he's catching passes like no one around him and I don't know how they get this wide open even in the middle of the field all the time but they constantly do Yup The forty niners look really really good do you. Are you worried about as as a packer. Owner and apologised discussing. I don't even fake fan of there's not a fake fan. Did Matt floor has looked like he's had his pants down a couple of times this year. I was more concerned when they showed Matt leflore and Aaron Rodgers on the sideline and third quarter. They were both standing by themselves. Yup and they were both like next to each other in a way but just not looking over any of the trauma center at Packer. Fans are GonNa get triggered because guess what it's a rare day where the bears won in the packers lost but all I'm saying is the packers will go to the playoffs. But do you feel confident. If you're packer fan and you're looking in the mirror you wake up on on Monday morning. You look in the mirror. Do you feel confident with your team. I'm in the playoff football. Probably not no. Probably not the secondary doesn't look very good. It's very you know what needs to happen. Just Aaron Rodgers invented catchphrase. This is the time of year that he does it and he. He's still error still. Has that ability where I wouldn't be shocked if he puts the you know the team on on his back and wins game in the playoffs where they probably have no business this winning. But I'm just the the the defense that everyone talked about at the beginning of the season Turns out they were just playing Mitch. trubisky yeah you WanNa say the word fraught. You're just looking at though. Dude uh-huh you throw fraud around like you're tossing Mardi gras right about this one I am. I wouldn't use the F. Word just yet. A lot can happen in between they're going to get some guys healthy he actually have no idea if that's true but you can always say we're GonNa get a guy that always works. The other way for the packers like blogger went out today. Yeah that was actually tough. Packers do have have. I'll say something nice about the packers does seem like they have really bad injury luck every single year every year every year. It really does Okay so let's go. ooh backwards in time. We'll start with the one o'clock we'll start with the Tampa Bay Bucks in the Atlanta Falcons Bucks Win Thirty five twenty two I. I Love James Winston. It has gone from a lost. It went from this guy's a joke to lost too. I got James One of one in my life realize there's a derangement syndrome by major media members. You've been red pilled. I've been red pill Jameis. Winston is one of one of if not my favorite quarterback in the NFL because of the comedy because you can just always like you know. He leads the league this year in three hundred yard games. I did not know that he has eight of them. He has eight of them. He's six multiple touchdown interception game. He's gotTa be close to being the best passing league right now yards watch he has. He started this game in Jameis. Winston fashion you went interception touchdown interception not touchdown touchdown. He had three touchdowns thousand two interceptions just in the first half. I think I figured out what his problem is. So he's not going to. He's not going to get his eyes fixed. He's not gonNA get laser surgery. Yup He's not gonNA wear glasses or REC specs. Even though that would be amazing if you went out there with coke bottle like Horn rim type lassus. It'd be perfect. He's not going to do any of that. He just needs bigger targets that make it easier for him to to see them. So he threw a touchdown pass to via Who is the heaviest player in? NFL history to catch. Ever catch a touchdown pass which inter forty seven pounds also is named named after coldplay song which I guess is pretty cool so I guess he's a pound heavier than Jonathan Ogden will use some pounds. Heavier listed. Three forty was Jonathan Ogden. And I and eight pounds heavier than Kelvin. Benjamin so he just needs like bigger like he can throw the ball to Mike Evans. We know that he's a big dude. Godwin's Unbelieva Godwin is really really good. Godwin's law because he loves areas And I think he just needs to find a set of wide receivers that can kinda size up up to the year of the player the easier it is for James to identify them running through space. He's I'm being honest right now. He's going to be twenty six in January. You really wouldn't like I. I know we we laugh. And he does make a bunch of mistakes and he is the first or sorry the second quarterback in the last twenty years to have twenty interceptions. Eleven Games. The other one to do it. This is probably speaks to why I'm in love. With James Winston was Jay Cutler in two thousand nine But there I feel like there's something you could build something with James Winston. He's young enough. He shows enough. Marcus Mariota Jameis. Winston thing has been undecided for a while. Now but James Lee Witt has. Yeah I mean Marcus. Mariota has was benched for Ryan Tannehill. But we're sure that James is much much better. Yes okay. Marietta was bench for Ryan Tannehill. Marcus Mariota also made the playoffs. Okay Marcus Mariota was benched for Ryan Tannehill. I'm aware I don't know how many times it's the six year bump for Tannehill you. The dyson Marcus Mariota. No definitely not but Jamie's there's enough you basically. Maybe maybe I'll put it this way. All right he may never be a great quarterback but he will be a quarterback for a long time because everyone will look at them and be like I can just if I can get him to not throw three picks a game. That's a pro bowl. Yeah the only thing with him is i. Don't see James Winston ever being back quarterback he's not a good back-up no he's he's the guy that you put out there and you roll the dice and you say fuck it let James. Kobe Jameson. Tame Tame one hundred miles an hour into a brick wall. But you don't actually. I can't imagine him being ineffective backup. You know what I'm saying though because every every coach any any every. NFL coach treats themselves like their cowboy. Ready to you know Russell down a wild horse and being on the guy who's GonNa make this Horse Source Kentucky. Derby winner was the bad boys effect. It's like I can change him. I'm the one who can get him to stop throwing three picks game So and he has Jamie Swinson. Does there's enough of the other stuff where you can say. If I can just limit the turnovers. He could be a guy. The other big news about this game was Dan. Quinn might not have completely. We found the locker room now. He's back he's all the way back. Dan Quinn Yeah for today. Oh Yeah Oh. Yeah he's back to doing Dan Quinn stuff because he kicked a field goal with eight eight minutes left in the game to make it a to score game from a to some to score. They were down eight points. Twenty eight thirteen and it was fourth down with with eight minutes left in the game and kicked a field goal to make it twenty eight sixteen. But that's what Dan Quinn knows he just whenever he gets confused with numbers he just goes back to the old the old theory. It's rather have more points than fewer points. I actually think the Dan Quinn at this point he has like the columns that say what you should do. And what you shouldn't do. He just accidentally gently reversed it when he made it in Excel. I think he's following the rules but he's so consistently awful at these in game situations that that's the only explanation explanation that he actually has it written down and he's just been reading the wrong sheet all talk. Well let's say I just got this new computer right now in the scrolling on it is reverse what I'm used to some still getting used to like scrolling down when I need to I don't need. I don't know how to fix this. But that's what Dan Quinn's brain is. Yes when he's looking at an excel table. Well he just grows up from the bottom right. He's like if it's lower on the list that actually means it's lower probability so I'm going to go ahead in just kick it by the way he also punted with five minutes six minutes left in the game. You can't take them with you. You can't take those with six minutes left in the game. WHO's there I know he's zone fifteen but he punted with six minutes left in the game but who who's the coordinator their offense? I'm GonNa Start Keys you and still. It was a nice place. Try Try to save your job. Dan Quinn you get Thursday night football you get the the the game that everyone is half asleep and very drunk on Thanksgiving Day To have the saints come. I'm and just kick the shit out of you with revenge But yeah it was a good try you did you rally the troops for two weeks and then went right back to being Dan Quinn and doing stupid ubad things like kicking a field goal when you're down fifteen to go down twelve in the fourth point so I if you're Arthur Blank Mike and you're looking at your next to coach or are you going to do the thing where you try to go real young and try to get an offense of minden there or do you stick with what you've done for the last twenty years and just have a defensive. Yeah come in there because if so this could be the Great Shana landing spot. That's probably why he walked away from rock. Yeah he's definitely getting a head coaching job in the NFL she auto looks like knows the NFC South Oh he knows the NFC south really well. He's a guy that has coached. I think his entire career in uniforms that are red and black And some sort of gray a if I'm recalling correct. Yeah Yeah. He's a red Wu. He's a red black and gray guys through and through. He's on the Patriot staff for a month. Okay right that counts. Yeah did he get. Did you get team issue. I feel like bell doesn't give those to you until you get into a game burnt orange for a day for the throwbacks the lice the lice. Head Guy Yeah Senate everyone after them. That's true we won't comment on that. Is I think that I don't know I do like how Greg Shadow issued like a Trent dilfer type contract demand upon ruckers. Yeah and wanted the world in exchange for them to allow himself to grace rutgers campus this with his presence. If you if you throw in blue to you have everything. Because I think he was at Penn State and who's at the bears for like a year or two and I think he was. Yeah I think it was Penn State. Because you know we all right well. Okay all right so anyway Greg. Sharon's not going to get this job but it was a nice ride We we talked about it. People are talking about it But yeah this game Jamus. I think they're going to do a bridge year with Jameson. I think they're gonNA I think they're going to keep James and try to corral him. Bruce Arians is just the type of guy he meant. He openly said he's getting fucked up tonight so why not just get fucked up in the end probably call James. Hey Man I want to say I love you. The what you did today was awesome. Bruce Arians has two modes after games. One he's getting fucked up because he's pumped to his getting fucked up because he's pissed off well and he loves to go deep. He loves to shop at Janus is a fun quarterback. You're very fun if you're coaching them at least going to throw the ball around Bruce Arians spent so much time in Arizona with Ryan and Lindley and who stanton yeah various iterations of Drew Stanton. That would come in for Carson Palmer. Whatever he'd get his elbow injured again yup and so he is sick of that type of quarterback to can't even throw the ball now he's got one that can throw it so he might as well just take it out on the highway? See how fast it goes. Also shut out speaking of quarterback shout match shop for getting a silver. Yes I feel like shops gotten a lot. This is just sees in there doing things I love it. I love it. We need that. We need more of that. All right broncos bills else bills are now eight and three. Yep We looked at their schedule coming up it is very difficult. They have cowboys on Thanksgiving. They have I the Ravens at the steelers at the Patriots. So it's GONNA be tough but they're eight and three we should say again. They're eight and three and they absolutely Shit can the the Broncos and didn't let them do anything on offense. The broncos did not get into the red zone stuff. That is ridiculous. And you know John Always looking at Josh Allen. Goddamn like that boy. That is exactly. He's looking at at Josh Allen. Like your neighbor looks at your new truck when he pulled into the driveway. Ah I wish I could get one of those. which by the way? How to Josh Rosen Stat Line? I saw that ten for twenty five eighty two yards an interception. How how you throw the ball twenty five times only eighty two yards? I do not know stuff they need to get through out there. Show off some of his body. Incomplete you need to get him out there and then the other big story from this game mm is Frank Gore third all time rushing so he's now just behind Emmitt Smith and Walter Payton. He passed Berry Sanders. So I have some Frank Gore stuff a for you. Well first of all anytime someone jumps on goes up on the rushing board it just more of a reminder how ridiculous Barry Sanders yes because you only played ten seasons and I looked it up and barry sanders averaged five yards a carry. That's insane average estimate. How what year is this for Gore right now? This is year fifteen so he had a five hundred more carrie and Barry Sanders and he just pass them. Emmett Smith had almost. Oh he had fourteen hundred more calories than Barry Sanders so Barry Sanders again. I don't want to steal from frank moment but if you if you didn't see see Barry Sanders played gorgeous youtube it because he was that ridiculous ultime shoulder pads guy to alternate shoulder. Boxers shoulder pads this. Yeah this is Barry Sanders record. I always think of him as being the all time leading rusher not right. It's it's one of those things with it had it. If you WanNa you just WANNA in Emmett Smith has it and it's like okay like yeah he Emmett Smith did it for a really long time too. Good job. Yeah you know what. I'm saying. Who you want Walter? Payton or Barry Sanders. Everybody ahead of Barry Sanders on the list of an Asterix next to the name and then underneath where it identifies advised that means just as did not play for the lions. Yeah or yeah or Asterix Bear. Remember Barry Sanders just all of a sudden yeah not playing for the Lions is basically a performance performance enhancing drug all right so here is the Frank Gore Stat though. That is incredible that he needs all the credit in the world for so this is his fifteenth season. He has led every single legal team. He's been on in rushing in that season. That is insane insane. Is it happening again. This year is happening again this year. He's about a hundred yards ahead of single. Terry I believe right now but he is so. Then here's the other part. He has In his career there have been two hundred and forty regular season games. He played in two hundred and twenty of them. So Oh he's basically just never been never gets her he get he in in I think it was Fourteen fourteen thirteen or fourteen seasons. He played in fourteen or more the game. I think frank core is really good at falling down. There's an art to getting tackled. I think we're talking with Erin foster about that like a year and a half ago. There's an art to being tackled and not getting singer. Yeah on your way down which Erin foster probably not the best example of that but Gore is a perfect example of like maybe he doesn't. He doesn't move fast enough to ever hit the ground violent right right and this isn't like one of those things where he's in his fifteenth season. And it's a pity party. He's still producing. Yeah I mean he's not there feature back really I mean. Even though he's leading the team in rushing right now but he still going out there and getting positive he. He'll o clock. Wh what is his average per carry. If you had to guess over the course of Oh I have you like three point nine four point three so progressive better than I thought it would be better than Emmitt Smith. Yeah he just. He melts the clock. He's like a salvador. Dali painting in the Backfield you can just it's like playing madden and then going to the main menu you and selecting the accelerated clock whenever you put frank right play like you ever. Do you ever say like fuck it. Let's just play two minute quarters or three minute cores. I don't know what the minimum is. Basically it's just one possession one possession. Yeah is it time right now to start asking about Sean. McDermott possible. Coach of the year That's like the sweet spot for coach of the year. Coaching in your smaller market team and elevating them beyond what their expectations are. The odds are not going to give it to check. We know that by the can't give it to a falcons coach. They have to give it till like an also ran from an AFC north or in AFC. Yes so I had Brian floors had gotten to like four or five win. I would have given him my coach. That your vote okay. which I don't have have? I still think it's going to probably be Kyle Shanahan just picking like Oh best team. Hasn't won it yet but I also would give it to my top. He's done a pretty good job a very good job. We'll get the steelers put if the playoffs started. Today the Pittsburgh steelers would succeed. macdermott doesn't get enough shine because he doesn't have a thing he doesn't have a thing that makes him bump talking visually right visually. The best you can say about him he looks like Ron Howard. If Ron Howard's dad and say the director was a strength coach beefier version of Ron Howard. Okay that that counts. Yeah Yeah like that. So the by the way the I know we're GONNA do. WHO's back later? But what a big time. WHO's back related to the bills? Is Crazy bills fan screaming about how they're gonNA beat the cowboys in the early nineties when they just got killed by them in everyone. Everyone Buffalo cries about that. Still not trying to don't don't bring that up. I really feel bad about that but that guy is awesome. My Fan of the week. This week was the bills fan. Spend with the giant belly. That had ARD Allan Allan Crossing. Yes you could probably fit a medium-sized Peter. King column onto his stomach. That much servicer and I liked it. He does the full face paint to where it's like. I don't really understand that the stomach should be enough but then he's like you know what. Let me add a little something. It won't surprise you to know that he was also wearing shorts. Yes of course he was. That's that's an ultimate short skype by the way shout out to our guy was named Chris Matthew Matthew no longer it has to wear shorts. That's cool. Did you see him. After the blue bombers won the Grey Cup he put on they brought him onto the field and he put on pants for the first time in nineteen years. IAEA glorious Yes. So he put on the pants they were cammo pants. There were like Ravens Style Whitemore slack fans and he put him on over Real stylish pair of Nike Air Monarchs. That's Tuxedo it's longer denim on Denim. Yeah it's just Cammo Snow Cammo on top of dad shoes all right. The bills fan is a famous bills. The bills are playing the cowboys on Thanksgiving Day. So we're GonNa get all the memories. This guy enthusiastic enthusiastic Fella really here with this guy says pal goes through Dallas Cowboys. I can't wait till Jonah. The Gal the third time's a charm is just and they went onto history. They went onto lose that time. And then another time they could actually actually kill Jason Garrett. I think that if the bills beat the cowboys on Thanksgiving that is going to be a high profile enough loss. Well we'll check. Yeah yeah he definitely but that guy is going to be back I might tweet it every single day before. Thanksgiving Tabu Dallas is going down third. Time's a charm shadow. Okay all right next up. We have giants Pairs Mitch. Congratulations Back Mitch. Back he battled really bad interceptions but he has paddled threw a terrible hip injury that knocked him out of the last game. You have to only imagine the type of pain. He was playing throughout their he did throw one of the worst interceptions in the non hazardous hip hip division hip. It was obviously through yards. He had to have had This is a classic game though. That actually makes me more mad about the bears which which shouldn't make sense but it does because Mitch played average and the bears one. Yeah and all the all you have to do is play average and the bears can win and link Khalil. Mack came came back and had a big play. And it's just so frustrating because you watch when he can just play average the bears can win games and when they just run two minute offense. It's they can win. I don't understand what matinees doing every time. They're in a two-minute offense they look good and then the start the second half. Let's just do the same thing we've been doing. That doesn't work and every game starts the same way. Let's just do the thing it doesn't work we'll go three and out five different times of Ro. Everyone will boo. And then we'll run. The offense will look great. You have to relearn the same lesson every single week. It's like waking up as that guy from Memento. He asked her Matt Nagy. He's crazy enough to do all this weird shit like the the egg toss and and replaying the double dunk over and over again. Yeah he should just tattoos mistakes onto himself instead of writing be you on his on his play card his tattooed across his forehead there was actually a classic bears moment though when they were going for two got called for pass interference offensive pass. Interference got pushback back then another penalty pushback and missed the extra point. Yeah I was GONNA say. Eddie Perot didn't miss any field goals today. Listen extra point a forty eight yarder. Yeah it was so many penalty. The is a very long extra point. I I want to say something about saquon real quick. Yeah because he's trying to make me sad because he's getting sad. No well getting says you see his quote. He said said he keeps reminding the guys that were someday. We're GONNA laugh about this. Okay we're GONNA look back. This is the calm before the storm. We might lad part. Yeah we might laugh about it. But that's just to to hide all the hurt right. He's got is I think I. I called him. Mugshot is at one point. Not because he looks like he committed a crime but they're the the eyes of somebody that knows that their life is going to get worse before it gets better right in that instant and on the sidelines. Just thinking about all the shit that he's going to have to go all UH losing games that he's going to have to play in he's going to get twenty five carries seventy two yards. Well Pat Shurmur just keeps running him on like halfback dives is a guy who's dynamic and space and he's like let's just run them straight up the Middle Pat Shurmur. You should be fired if you make. Mitch look competent. That should be the rule that it's member. I made the rule you you you should you. Don't get to be called you. Don't get to be in the running for coach of the year. If you lose the dolphins I think I had that earlier because they beat. Who else did they beat? The dolphins beat the Redskins so Jay Gruden dot coach. Wasn't maybe it was. I can't remember what it was but something if Brian Floors beach you then like something should happen bad. Had you lose your job but PAT Shurmur lose his job for making Mitch Look Average. He looked yeah. He looked competent today. Shurmur no no no saying Mitch. Look in in fact I would argue that. That thirty yard interception he threw that was about fifteen yards underthrown. That's a plus play. Yeah Mitch because it's yeah. It's like a slightly below average. No he was average taste better than what. You'll get mostly two touchdowns running touchdown passing touchdowns interceptions whatever is the one seventy or. Is it time to ask. If maybe sake one's legs are too big. They give you a nice big target to wrap up if you're trying to tackle I just don't know if I were giant's Fan I would beef. I'd be yelling. I would start a fire. Pat Shurmur twitter account and have like four followers and just tweet really mean things the giants until they blocked me. And that's what I would do. If I were giant's Fan Pat Shurmur fired yet dot net. Right make that all the time just right at about him because you're also in that weird spot where yeah. The giants defense is really bad but they have some young guys on offense. And how long do you want to have him. Be The coach and kind of ruin ruin things and Daniel Jones. You just love fumbling Dude you love to fumble. Yeah He. He looked pretty bad today. I think are we ready to say that Daniel Jones was definitively a better picked Dwayne Haskins. Yet dwayne Hassans did not look good so but he didn't look bad. I think they will Jones. It has more than Dwayne Haskins problem. I've seen over. So the bears play the lines on Thanksgiving Against Jeff Driscoll Daniel Jones never missed a a snap it when the teams in the victory formation. Because you can self is true. I don't think that they've ever run. Victory Formation with Daniel Jones is a quarterback. They want against the box. Yeah but that was the field. Yeah that was so maybe not they might not have So the the bears play the lions on Thanksgiving than they have The cowboys and then if they win those two that's three in a row and I'll be back in okay. What you're saying that you're going to be back back in if they win the so you're already kind of back in you're making plans back in? No is this bad. They're really like in an escape. Really Barron escape right right now if your own brain figured out the next steps to getting yourself out of it. Problem is the really really bad team but they have the same roster of a really good team last year. So that's what keeps fucking with my brain now. What if the wheels totally come off and Green Bay be ashamed man would be a real shades? Very I can see a path to you being here. Real shame Okay steelers bengals. Duck Duck Fox Talk Fox Duck Fox big time. I want to just say to our credit. We don't get a lot of things right on this show Mason Rudolph being shitty because his face is too big Was Maybe the best we've ever had. That guy stinks. It was obvious he is i. I've said this before but at least the steelers and they're in the playoffs right now so I think they could. Actually you know if they put down put together this homestretch they could somehow get in the playoffs. Incredible considering all that's gone on But the least learned that Mason. Rudolph isn't the guy. Because is you have a guy now. Mason Rudolph who in two weeks. What's worse getting smashed in the head by myles Garrett or getting benched while playing an Owen getting benched against the bengals is definitely worse? If we're going to say like what are the worst things that Ohio team could do. I think I think going up against against Getting out dueled by Ryan. Finley is worse than getting hit in the head with your own helmet brutal. I don't know how I mean I. I hope Mike Tomlin does the right thing. He he did the you know. I'm not talking about it. Mike Tomlin thing that he does but I hope he does the right thing in keeps duck as their quarterback because simply because they're playing the browns next next week and he don't want to give the browns any extra motivation with putting that fucking big ass face behind center and having everyone be like. That's the guy permission to go there. Yeah I think you might hate Mason Rudolph a little bit. Because he doesn't not look like you know he doesn't look he doesn't not look like he looks like he looks like If you're wrong if Matt Moore Shitload it looks like if not more eight a ton of sodium and his world up and you know he's so so he's a lot prettier than I am. He's not making often yes he does not. He's got like a pretty he's a he's a good looking guy. His face was just too big. If he doesn't look if he spent like three months in the Wild Alaska in the Alaskan wilderness. He would come back looking like A. JV Matt Moore saying he's no guys who look like me he doesn't look if you put Mason Rudolph the wind for a couple of years. Then he's going to start to approach now he doesn't look like me and that's how I would. I hate him. I would love him. I Love Matt Moore the thing I loved in Matlock. I love all the math. The thing about duck is and I love duck and I want to see him play. I think it's almost better if they just keep sending Mason Rudolf out there to start and he keeps getting yanked for duck because duck lights a spark in your team. Yeah we've got the world junior duck calling champion coming into the game. That's always going to make. The boys play with a little pep in their step. It also helps that you had like a ninety yard touchdown pass were with bengals. That was a play where you you watch. She's had yet. The bengals are actively tanking. Let's 'cause the velocity of ducks pass. made the receiver go faster when he caught it like a little rocket fuel. I think you take chase young if you're the The bengals retake Joe Borough. That's tough choice they have it. They've got a commanding gamely commanding. They played the dolphins later in the seasons flex at the prime time. Oh my God I think I would take. I think I would take chase young. I think so too I think so too. So yeah the Bengals Bengals keep the I don't I don't see how they can be as competitive as they are and be like not have stumbled into a win. Yeah right this website like there's no real talk about about firing hiring Taylor after this season as a head coach because there's not competitive right there's losing every game. He's actually doing the world's most perfect job of tanking. Yeah so the steelers like I said before they. If the playoffs started today they be your six seed which is incredible to say that speaks all the credit in the world to their defense which has been awesome awesome because their offense has not been good whatsoever and Mike Tomlin has somehow has them like this game against the browns where it's kind of it is a loser leaves town because both those teams if they get hot down the stretch could get that succeed and they play on Sunday yeah. The browns needs to be very careful about asking for duck. They need to. They need to back off that for a little bit Shot up to Bengal superfan. I duNno we're just calling everyone a superfan nowadays but showed up to the bengals fan. Who is still living on his roof? Yeah yeah he's not allowed to come down. Until they lose like scarecrow for Santa clauses up there just hanging out on the shingles who definitely just loves the BENGALS. And that's why he did it and it's not because he. It's not getting along with his wife and wanted to live on his roof all winter. Well also as we said earlier just living roof. Is Boston. treehouse up there yeah Okay so speaking the browns and next week. Let's Brown's dolphins I have a sabermetrics stat for you. I think you probably saw this as well. But the browns are three and owns since since the introduction of Swagger Junior S J. That's awesome dude. swaggers a lucky dog. They've lost their best player because he went crazy and hit a guy in the face right but that doesn't matter. It's just three little nepotism in the in the doghouse coming down from his pod. Was this data loser. Are we ready. Say that Yeah yes swagger was a loser I think we could have said that a long swagger swagger do you got a winning said is on his swagger junior I mean you should just send Swagger Agar senior usually just send him to wear Hugh Jackson's living and just be like here you go losers love losers Hugh Jackson ending up as like the dog whisperer just like with a lot of like castoff mascots. Yeah a good way to get cancelled online. It's called dog loser. Put if we're being honest your swagger senior was a fucking wills our job as members of the fourth estate in the press to actually speak truth to power in this case swagger looser fucking loser Lou. Zor give a bad name to mastiffs everywhere. I I did Leroy Leroy. It'd be like Yo. Don't let me in with as a bull master. I'm a mask I'm not swagger swagger junior looks like he's got a little Ah less round head probably a little bit more English mastiff about Swagger Juniors better than swagger senior. That's a fact he's got a great co All right so the Jarvis Landry Revenge Game Yes game. We didn't know we needed for Jarvis Landry to get his revenge he was awesome And I this was this. It's actually started kind of like a college game like when When like Oklahoma Place Kansas because the dolphins were down twenty eight? Nothing nothing in a blink of an eye. It was like three now three and out fake they did a fake punt. That didn't work. And then I think a pick and you just look down for one side like Oh. It's twenty eight nothing. And they've played the Oklahoma fight song. Fifty Million Yup and Ryan Fitzpatrick had a couple of Great Ryan. Fitzpatrick plays in it to where he was pump-faking while he was five yards. Arts downfield scrimmage Yup and he did the thing where he finds the smallest player in the secondary and runs over yes. He's very good at the he. So my say something nice about about the dolphins was was Ryan Fitzpatrick Birthday That is very nice very nice and For a moment in time on Saturday Harvard Yale. What was the most talked about college football game? That's true he went all Ryan. Fitzpatrick went to Harvard. Yeah protest that's very nice. Also his Chin Strap. I don't know where it sits in such such a comically ridiculous place now because his beard so long. Yeah you just don't know where it's land and you don't know where his Chin is. It usually goes. I think he's a guy that normally wears the Chinstrap unstrapped high anyways like right underneath his lower lip is usually where it Kinda Nessin it is. It looks like a egg. In a bird's nest. Right is is his chin. Strap right right. There should be like a like an eager to come find just sits on his chin thinking that it's keeping its little baby warm. Yeah there's a mother bird that's GonNa come down to just peck a defender being like get away from my baby. I thought actually just Ryan Fitzpatrick's Chinstrap. I thought it was nice before the game. The browns fans were smashing Mason Rudolph. The helmet was blindfolding and then just running around around hitting it. That was so muny lot awesome. I that's why I love Brown's where do you think is inside the Mason. Rudolph Yada Turnovers turnovers turnovers cherry turnover over. I like that maybe just just like big head big bobbleheads. ooh just the bobble. I'm just glad the browns. They moved on from dealing with all this violence from their players. And now they're focusing on Kareem Hunt and the run game. Yes nice to get him back in the back of the Mason Rudolph. How how many times do you think Mason Rudolph like being it was actually Mason? Rudolph all was said in in the Browns tailgating lot today a lot. I mean every a billion that same uh-huh screen shot with the Blue Arrow is getting passed around and probably I'd say no fewer than two thousand group tax inside that parking lot every time there was an awkward silence it was just filled. Well you know what Fuck Mason Rudolph and kicked him in the nut. Yeah what the fuck. He tried to grab his helmet. fucking Guy Marcus down last week but I didn't get to address it But do you remember that clip from last year when it was Baker Mayfield and Freddie kitchens on the sidelines and Freddie said something. Baker than Freddie walked away and bakers was like that guy's such an idiot man and everyone was like look at this great chemistry between the player and the Kojak. They're getting along really I'm beginning. Baker actually wasn't joking when he said that acres been playing. I'm very well though. Yes and they're now the dolphins but I think they scored four out of five times going into the red zone. And it's actually comforting the Lakers playing. Well it's been under the radar. You know what I mean. It feels like he's found his equilibrium where Baker can play well and the browns can win a couple of games and not have everyone freak out. Maybe maybe it's just because the air was taken out of the tire so early on their season but this is where they should be because they're now in a spot where no one really believes in them yet and they're kind of the back to the plucky underdog dog browns. The browns just never can be you know. Sports illustrated the judge Robert. Q cover feels weird the dark horse team. That can't happen. They have to be right where they are right. Now where every game a must win to get in the playoffs. I have I have thought about the browns that I've been entertaining okay. I think that they might run the table. I think that the browns might make the plan. Might Nick Right yourself here. I think they might know the steelers. I think my brain is telling me that they're going to run the table so if I'm wrong it's not me. It's my brain okay. So the browns the rest of their schedule they have yet no they. Actually you definitely can run the table because at they basically if they beat the steelers On Sunday they have the Bengals at home at the cardinals. The Ravens at home with you Marty already beaten. They've already beaten them in the Ravens might not have that much to play for at the time and then uh well they probably will because they can play for the one-seat will they could depend the the Patriots lose And then the Bengals at Cincinnati Week. Seventeen yeah so what will happen is here. They're going to beat the steelers. I beat the Bengals and then somehow lose the cardinals. I Dunno classic browns fashion. They'll get above five hundred and then the everyone will bring and then they'll beat the ravens. Even the Bengals I hate. How much Swedish nine in seventy how? Much since but they do beat the cardinals on that weird four o'clock game in middle of December in the desert but Cleveland ruined. I believe in Cleveland Right now. That's a bad thing. That closure is browns at cardinals. That's a weird game. That's a weird game otherwise they don't show your game it's Weird Shit's going to happen there Okay let's go next to panthers saints before we do that Bud light. It's not science but Ladies Crisp Plain Plain and simple you know what I know what we all know it so rather than spending an entire ad reminding you bud light is given the other half of its ad reads to small businesses but no free the ADS. The read must include the word crisp and bud. Light this week's winner is I works. All right listen up all you still. He's in the school lease science isn't just is for measuring the size of saquon Barkley size. PFC mentioned that earlier might be too big. It's also how we learn about the world. That's why I works. 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You Judge Yeah so get more people involved but that led me to have a different idea. which is they should take all the coaches that are on by weeks and and have them all vote they they should be like a council? But they'll be grudges but all the votes should be public. Okay so what happens when there's no bye weeks. Then that's another issue that we're GONNA have to delve into that happens every year. I'm going to have to I'm GONNA have to regroup and get back to you on that one too many weeks I would just like to coaches be involved in the process okay. Because they're the ones that complain about the most well. I don't hate that idea because you could also have there would be. You'd have to talk about the strategy going into the bye week be like. Hey Andy Andy. Reid has a bye week. Maybe we shouldn't challenge anything because there's no way he's GonNa get it right. Yeah you have to think about the brains this this week. Okay you know we probably don't WANNA PROBABLY WANNA risk this one Jason Garrett Clap once for overturned twice for keep it as it stands here would just stared it. Just watch it loop endlessly not say a word I do applaud the NFL for sticking to their their general application of any rule which is always fuck over the saints. Yeah so I mean it is consistent. And everyone's got their jokes often. See Show Sean paint. Forget engaged to yeah you got engaged. Oh and in the picture big nipple picture. Of course. He's dude he ever since the across fit he's been a nip guy. He cut the nose in the ring himself. With those diamond cutters raisins reasons. They smuggle. He's a big time nip guy He should wear a bra as someone who's thought about wearing a bra. Before he should wear Bra the saints can win the Division on Thursday night. Mostly mostly thanks to the panthers. Kicker Joey sly who does not look like a kicker. Yeah swo- Kicker I. I don't like that. I don't like to swap kicker picker. I don't I don't like it kicker. That looks like he drives a pickup truck or is trying to escape from his true nature of being a kicker. He is so swollen that when he got what I think you had drafted when he joined the panthers. A bunch of guys were confused when he started nailing kicks. I thought you were linebacker. Yeah I don't WanNa see I don't like it doesn't work. He's not GonNa make the big kick. I sorry I like my kickers to be vaguely European. Maybe go as far as to do the one barefoot thing. Be Quirky geared be small look like no one talks to you on the team. Yes can't have it. Have it be a kicker where everyone's like. Oh maybe the guys actually friends with someone other than the long snapper. Yeah if you're jacked up kicker you're just you're trying to get away from being a kicker right of embracing it that tells me that you've got mentally Okay so for this game I wrote down and I actually saw Sean Payton mentioned it. I think on Friday but I'm ready to hop on board that Michael Thomas should be the MVP so there has never been a wide receiver. That's one I'm VP. which is crazy Crazy crazy crazy and we're talking about the I think it's the coaches pulled. There's been other a war like there's other polls and stuff there has never been the last wide receiver to get an MVP vote. Nineteen Ninety Eight Randy Moss. It ought the problem with giving him. MVP as though you give him an MVP and then and he because his name becomes part of like a an unbelievable stat which is. Can you believe that Randy Moss and Jerry. Rice never wanted to really do it because it's should hear. And and here's what's pushing me over the edge Michael Thomas this year one. He is most likely going to break. Marvin Harrison's record for receptions options in a season he had one hundred forty three and two thousand to Michael. Thomas has ninety four right now through eleven games so think if he he pretty much averaging ten ten again so he'll get right close to it And I think they'll probably force the ball to him. If if these close to getting that Shawn Payne would absolutely yes. Look to He's done it with two different quarterbacks and I think that that speaks more like you know how they always make the argument. Will its most valuable player to your team so be hard for wide receiver lever to win. MVP because you say well. It's the quarterback throwing him the ball. He's kept the saints afloat by being so steady through drew brees injury Teddy Bridgewater and then drew brees coming back from hill to different quarterbacks and then three I always forget but it needs to be mentioned. He has the greatest twitter handle for a player. It's at can't guard Mike I mean come on I. I can't believe the twitter handle was still available. Can't guard Mike like he's just telling you in his twitter handle that you will not be able to guard him. Yeah so you don't think that it's going to be in your mind if you had a vote at four. He's he's better at The position that the the leading the leading Guy Right now. Lamar Jackson is also a wide receiver. He's a lot better at wide receiver than him. That's true so there's four okay. Got It man Patrick. MAHOMES GONNA hit us up after this one. Let us know. He's upset with us. Kim Woman Yeah. I think that he's really good wide. Receiver I think that obviously like he makes that saints. Say He's not going to take the MIC. Should be considered. It's crazy to not at least say I know it's is gonNA come down to probably Lamar Jackson. And I don't know I mean Russell. Wilson wasn't great today but he should be considered for envy people. I will consider Michael Michael Thomas for my MVP. I always one step at a time. I want him to get one. MVP that's all. We need to get the list of the MVP voters and just just fucking fucking little shit. Had PRISCO vote. I'm sure he does. So PRISCO listen up. You love being contrarian Hilo blocking people and say seon twitter how. `Bout you vote for Michael Thomas and be the contrarian that everyone gets mad at well. He hates running backs enough to the point where he would think about voting for a wide receiver. Actually love you PRISCO. Your I mean I do I read all his stuff is awesome. I also made a note At Halftime Sean Payton likes to flex. Sometimes and a lot of coaches. They tried to do the copy. belichick thing where they don't say anything about how they're going to just what they saw. That went wrong. And I F- Shawn Payne was like watch out for tomorrow. We're going to get combined. The goal we we need to feed Kamara and then they come out and they hit them like three times in a row right after that Dan. I think he's just trying to flex with Tracy Wolfson that being like look. I'M GONNA put my balls on the table. He he probably walked in the locker room. He's like do you ever have that thing. We're like you get engaged in every chick wants to fuck you definitely what he said. He's absolutely feeling himself. Tracy was giving me those is in the eyes of told her I was. You know white when I said that was going to give tomorrow the ball. She was like undressing. I'm taking Mansaray retracing. Yes so do you feel confident in the saints. Yeah well I do I do that. They don't have shit to play for it such that their division so bad I agree because they can kind of take the foot off the gas for the next four weeks and they'd be fine. I'll say I'll say this I feel confident. And everyone on the saints except drew brees okay. Let's take drew. brees is still very good. But he's going to have to make a few big time like deep throws I don't know if he still hasn't. I have noticed through. Listen I I think for all the other one. I think that he's still has most of it. But I have noticed Otis over the last couple of weeks when he does his little squat down in the huddle. You know how he like usually takes a big lunch and he usually doesn't put the knee down. He's usually supporting himself in a lunch. He's been putting the knee down taking a little bit of weight off Yup taken little breaks between plays and the saints. Now I first thing that goes the saints might be good enough and talented enough to not need him to do that but I just that's my biggest concern is in a playoff game in a big time moment. Drew brees has to hit an open guy thirty yards down the field. Can he do it And I don't know they're probably going to have to go up against some some refs decisions as well. Yup they're gonNA have to zebras to get their Okay next step. We got raiders and jets the raiders. I guess if you if you draw out a stinker you might as well really stink so so much so that we had Mike Glennon get in the game and he did I three three snaps. fumbled twice So that's my Glennon. I actually believed in him at one point my life and then Gruden after the game said ever been on a boat that sinking which is the most relatable who hasn't yet often a whole too sick. I hope not. Yeah but that's a that's a harsh thing to say real quick after you guys riding high a minute ago. Yes tough very tough and so he also gave shots. It's all the raiders fans that came out in New Jersey. I guess there's a Shitload raiders. Fans that were there today really being very loud in the stadium he was started. I think Jon Gruden just developed a love with the black hole somebody he has he always kind of feels like he has to represent form which is a good quality of having a coach. I think well it and I actually would say that. It's partly in part because he was is an underdog when he came back. We made the jokes. Everyone made the jokes that it wouldn't work and it's starting to work and I think he probably says hey these black hole guys. They're the only ones who thought that that I would actually be able to do this. Yeah I mean Gruden did a great job of making himself the underdog as he was getting ten years ten million dollars a year hundred million dollars is guaranteed to go move to Las Vegas. It's tough for that guy to become an underdog but somehow he has So yes that's bad for the raiders. Playoff hopes they were riding high. They now have to go to Kansas City next week after any reading a by just alert cab with that on an alert. Yeah Andrew Reading the by but yeah he gruden afterwards was like emotional about this loss. I can't talk about it. It's also Andy Reid after Thanksgiving though so he's going to be a little lethargic Mac and cheese is is GONNA do the slow nod off where you're just like He's probably spent the La- this since this was a week. He's probably had his Turkey brining and marinating and and like working up some crazy new recipe that he saw like the barefoot Contessa. Yeah alright so we have also in this game Sam. Darnold is is like I think this is coming out three weeks. The jets have scored thirty four points three weeks in a row. He's officially over the mono exactly thirty four points and he looks awesome. Awesome so if you're a jets fan. Are you one mad because all you do is beat the bills week. One in a game that you were up at half or beat the dolphins who were still actively trying to tank To Be Realistically in this playoff race or two. You're just happy to SAM. Barreled looks like the quarterback happy quarterback because they're dangerously close games jets loose winning almost better to say that we would have been able to make the playoffs healthy then to have donald go out and some of those. Yeah stink it up. Yeah I know that if I were jets fan I'd be I'd be like two wins away from just staring staring at the box. Scores those dolphins bills games and being like why. But that's a much better feeling to have to actually have. Don't go out there. And one of those games through like the burden of Beck speculation that goes along with being successful team and being the New York jets. That's going to be worse to deal with than being almost good. But not quite getting there because your quarterback made out with a twenty one year old and hoboken true if they win out. y'All go just fans will be bad that they also schemes. If they went out yeah can can you imagine that nine and seven and what we don't have draft pick and we don't have a good draft pick and we all had to be off the bills. Imagine how many head coaching jobs. Greg Doc Williams GonNa turn down this off season. He's GonNa have to hire a guy he's going to have to hire a guy to just say no we can't do it like a reverse Kevin. Hart sorry it's not taking any more projects projects the other story from this game is the NFL's rules on how you and how and when you can hit a quarterback still a joke and clip. Blake men who I'd still still. It's such a joke that he is a rat. A name like clete Blake. Men should never be in charge of anything. He sounds like a parody twitter account. If you're name's yeah it does you have foxworthy locks. Were the TROPE. Yeah if you're name's cleve blake men you should maybe be in charge of like a petting zoo. Yeah that's about as high as you should advance muffler shop Ah MUFFLERS THOSE I duNno carburetors. That same healthy. I don't think you have the business acumen if your name is clearly baby a what do you call them. The spoilers the put on the back of your yes. Yeah yes some aftermarket some spoilers that he he can specialize in putting spoilers on Civic Sa Motorcycle motorcycle accessory shop So not actually knows how to fix a motorcycle. But if you want like the sweet fire stripes down your Hog Clip Wakeman. c'mon shot shop. Got Him yeah or at least he can be the customer service Guy Process returns. Yeah but he sucks. Yeah he's did you see how Yanni that call was. He did a terrible referee for years and years and I was so so. Don't even know what he was. What was he calling he? He was standing right there and it was almost like football player. I've ever scene. And he just threw it in discuss it. Yeah that's that's roughing the past. I'm just GonNa say this right now. He's out of the running for Blake of the year. Yup Sorry Clean Blake men get out of here. Oh Dude All right before we do the next one. Quick word from our friends at mugsy jeans mugs jeans and the most comfortable men's jeans ever made you've heard the name from us before muggsy genes the genes. Where because they look like jeans but feel like sweatpants actually know these guys from Chicago? 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Yeah get some good exercise. Yeah walks around fits in pretty well. He actually probably wants to Sopranos Con-. Yeah that's right rocking the jumpsuit. Bubba what do you think Obama's here by the way. Thanks not here. Thanks on Vacation Mall. Sounds more sounds pretty good for Martinez. You think he goes. I think he goes to listen. Tries on every hat and doesn't in by anything no I don't think he goes. He goes to the kiosk. Then makes you custom hats Like the embroidery. Where they'll just they'll write something on it and just says mark you probably are? They like buys the raiders said. He doesn't know he can get for free. Yeah right it's true. It's like Oh there's a whole whole box in his office and he doesn't know and he's like Oh that's cool. Well he or he thinks like Oh why actually paying myself because we get the revenue Split So he's a little scheme he's gotten his brain whereas if I buy all the raiders raiders gear. Is this pyramid scheme. I then get the kickback. I could see him going to spend a Lotta time in the big dog store but not buying anything looking at all the shirts and just having a good laugh. Afghan like laughing out loud one. Sure look at this one. And there's no Hon. Takes a picture who security guard. I'm talking about the employees of all. Yeah it's like. Oh Ah there's no there's definitely not a misses most of the time except everyone's on he's definitely there's no real on yeah he yeah He goes to the Walmart five dollar shirts and laughs at all in them. And then you and actually he definitely uses big. Johnson uses those jokes later on in the night at PF. changs thinks. He's like he's like. Hey you he's a big gives you facts from snapple bottle on a guy All Right Sea Hawks Eagles we you gotTa have a conversation about Carson Wentz. Here we do this. Actually both Carson's in this game Bad Carson Game Today Yeah Carson Wentz so I think this actually was the game if this frame it in relation to whether or not. He's better than back Prescott so I think he's. I think this was the game that is finally Shifted Eagles fans from Being Blind Carson Wentz apologists. There's not ditching him but I could feel the tide shifting on twitter where it's like people are starting to say. Hey when you yeah you're seaver suck and your offensive line socks but when you miss a a Guy Wide Open on a three yard out that's not on your receiver that's on you. And he's now had two games in a row that look really bad four turnovers Carson Wentz. Here's what it comes down to. I want you to answer it. Is Carson Wentz a bad quarterback or as Carson Wentz a good quarterback going going through a bad run. I think he's a good core. He's a bad quarterback that has gone through good runs got good and now I think he's he he's been who he is his entire career He's lost a little bit of his mobility. I think won't last two years But but I I think overall he's perfectly average quarterback that every now and again shows glimpses of exactly how excited you were two years. So he's not a franchise quarterback back. Then I think he's an average franchise quarterback That's not a franchise court. I don't know what a franchise quarterback he's the guy who you can basically sleeping no franchise quarterback to me is a guy who can say for the next ten years. We will have this quarterback and we will make the playoffs as long as he's healthy. I think I'M GONNA I'M GONNA mark this in the he's injured but he doesn't want to say how introduced he. I did have an extra first hand. So that's a good thing for Carson. Wentz that he can kind of lean on that. Now that he's trying to but I I actually think I've always kinda thought Carson Wentz was a franchise which is quarterback and I still see it. But man he was bad today. I'll put it this way right now. They're what five and six five and six. Okay they can still win the division vision absolutely. They actually have a far easier schedule than the cowboys they have at the dolphins. That's a win giants. That's a win at the redskins that's win. So they're going to win the next next three games and then they have a home game against Dallas Week Sixteen and if they win that they have the giants at the giants week. Seventeen so they do. We could be sitting here here in six weeks and be like member cars once had that bad game and then they won five in a row without ducks who get out our back. We'll get lean Johnson back. I'm just saying this is the first time I've felt in my own like assessment of Carson Wentz. Maybe he's not the guy that I thought he was. It's like if you have a bad cough you can. You can shake off macaw for a while but the second that a little bit of blood comes up in your coffee now I need to go. Now something's an issue right the three out that you're talking about that. Was the blood cough. A AH good quarterback doesn't miss this throw unless there's a problem right so there's a problem we don't it's I don't know what the problem is. I mean I feel not only can I could feel philly fans kind of being like. Oh this is weird because this is not what you know. We've been defending and they have a right to defend because his wide receiver she was had been trash and his offensive line is banged up this year. Put Man there are some things you're like. That's fucking weird man. He's not the guy that you thought he was All Right Russell game didn't help the Cagey right. Said after the game they knew exactly what the eagles were doing calling out there plays before they ran them. That probably doesn't help not great. That is always a bad thing to have a defender say after the game. Yes not great. Russell Wilson continues to be. Even his bad games are good games. Yeah he had some Mrs today where it was like. What's going on with him? That was an ugly win for the seahawks where they probably could have won by like three scores and Yeah Wins Win. I don't know what to says about me when I'm watching football football boot. I can identify when a flickers coming before the defense can. I don't know if that's the camera angle or whatever and I get so excited when I pick it out when I know that it's going to be thrown back to the quarterback back before the announcers no before the defenders no on the field. Will you have the tests now. Oh I have to call him out. Yeah okay because this would be I think I would bet like ninety five percents. This could also be. This could also be dad territory where you know how everyone's dad just calls out every play and then the three gets right. He's like called it. Yeah that would suck. If I was a dad without the sex part right you just got all the worst parts of because it. How many have you been calling? We now know I'm telling you I feel I. Nail Mavericks Lab Ninety Five Ninety six percent clip. You're saying you call it out before the like the before. Run like turns his body. Before I see the defense react to it. I diagnose a flea flicker better than any. NFL Defense now. Zada defenses are slow. They haven't defensive they haven't caught up to my head in your head but are you calling it when they're like when the running backs actually throwing it backwards. I call it. The second. The runningback takes one slower. Step that tells tank all right so yeah we got to see it you know. It's very tricky leg on. Bella should say that because he could be doing it on any which is why defenses. That's probably why average yards per carry because the safeties have to stay back all right so we I mean we watch a lot of football together so you start doing that and I will report honestly back I believe you. Yeah I just WANNA see. I wouldn't make the Sun No of course not but I wanNA see in action. Because I don't think I've ever heard you do it so now. You GotTa start saying out loud. Okay I do say you. Also get negative points for flea flicker that you didn't say anything. Oh of course. Yeah it does if it happens. You're like if I'm caught off guard if I bite on the on the play fake. Yeah I believe the first minute how might even be minus two. If you call flea flicker that doesn't happen. I know because if you call yeah if you if you call flickered that isn't a flea flicker that's an issue that's a minus two. I thought you were saying that if you fail to recognize if if you if it happens and you don't say anything that's minus one plus one for every time you get it right okay. All right so we'll just on that one how you should be. You should be significantly in the plus I should be. I know I believe in you. I believe in you See the the eagles are probably still going to make the playoffs. Somehow even though they've lost two games in a row where their offense looked terrible I still substantial lines up perfectly for them. Yeah and I don't think the cowboys earned good right now so I would actually bet on the eagles making out of the NFC do it. And it's east do it all right Lions Hines Redskins. Jeff Driscoll Nope Nope nope he had about one point five daltons on the moxie meter two interceptions in the final minute of the game. That's hard to do To in the final minute and it's not like it was garbage time. It's not like Oh yeah you needed though this was this was serious. Time here The big story though obviously Dwayne Haskins consultancy was just a picture. He took the phone. It was a Selfie so he thought the game was over. At that point he ran to the sidelines was taking selfies with fans. Meanwhile case keenum getting pulled out onto the field to take a knee yell at the very end of the game and if you thought that Joe Theismann was going to watch this and let this slide buddy oh you don't know Joe Theismann. Because he saw and he was like this is Bush league stuff and joy. His prostate was swelling up out of sheer anger at Wayne. He's not he's not going to be for a week. Okay I saw it. I really don't want to think it's a big deal but I don't think Dwayne Hassans played well enough to take a selfie while the game still going enough. I think my biggest issue was. I sort of think about other quarterbacks imagining other quarterbacks doing this and finding themselves in that position he and I was having a a tough time pulling out names. That weren't bad quarterbacks to be compared rights like I could. I could see James doing this it also. Yeah Jayme West. Virginia's the hall of I could see Johnny Mandel doing this. Yeah I could see swag absolutely this wag. Would we know about Jerry Bruce Allowed on him ragweed one hundred literally. I think let's see who else that's currently in the league. Paxton Lynch Paxton Lynch will do it for sure if you ever want to take a picture. We're actually know someone would ask Paxton Lynch if they if you take the picture. Yeah of us of yeah. Don't put yourself and offset so. Yeah I really don't because it. It is one of those weird things. Where if you are too mad about it and I'm not mad about it at all but if you're too mad about it you telling on yourself it's like come on that's ridiculous us but he did not play well enough to do that? He had four touchdowns and four hundred yards. I'd like fucking do whatever you want. He's he's in that spot where he's been so bad and Redskins fans want him to be good that just winning a game where he's not even good and they're like looking okay. He's coming along and he was. I think he completed less than half of his passes. And he had an interception touchdown they won they won. I think it was his first career. Win Actually actually right. That's why maybe that's how I'll explain this way. My he was excited to get that first win in front of that huge field event. I mean I can't I I I can tell you I do the same thing I spent the fucking I five minutes to show sing. Mitch was was good or I think he said he was average. Probably wasn't but when you're so bad that you you have to convince yourself even Halfway decent or not even halfway decent like a not bad performance is somehow good. That's when you know you're in a bad spot. Also Wins Wins Young. Yeah he's really young so I mean I can't I can't blame them too much for that. I'm not mad at him for doing that at all. No but it's just like it was weird Mu i. I can't imagine it happening to competent organization. Confetti quarterback no. We'll see the means you can close your eyes and picture them getting confetti on on their face. Oh I'm in the Super Bowl. I'm so delusional. I can close my eyes and imagine any quarterback getting confederacy. But I just think I I'm putting it not mad weird move we're booth and doesn't really make sense with how he played. Okay I I can agree to that. I also made a note here at the end of the Game Dustin Hopkins before before he kicked that field goal he was standing on the sidelines. Next to the space heater that they have just holding his leg out holding his shoe his right foot directly in front of the space heater. Heating it up I love. I'M A sucker hot. I am a sucker for any sort of story about kicker. Doing Weird Shit to their shoe. GotTa get like. I think the REDSKINS had to kick a few years ago. Who would bake his shoe in an oven for a couple hours before the game to shrink it? So it'd be like three sizes smaller than I just like. I like a good kicker shoe store. I agree I I agree to get hot any way you can. So the lion season was already over. But it's really over. Don't bring Matt Stafford. Back is really what the lions should be focused on and Matt Patricia. I would like to see better posture out of them. It's not going well for the Lions Thanksgiving Day is going to be very interesting when the bears we lied skin. It's it's an affront to football and like what we the sport we love to have those teams plus. Yeah I mean. There's GonNa be no herbal to me. That is the epitome the Thanksgiving. It's going to be really bad. The under the lions should have to play and lose to the worst team in the NFL. Everything and I I mean I don't actually know I want the bear swing remember. I think they're back but they're I. My big thing is bears tanking for Strength schedule Oh for next year the division they don't have after I trump the other division losers it's only two games it matter change schedule-wise but that's kind of cool but yeah no you'd rather play those yeah Bradley. Those teams Okay Eh Tennessee Jacksonville. I don't know what to make Tennessee. They're so confusing. I wrote down some of their Some of their wins and losses is year. They beat the browns forty three thirteen. They beat the chiefs last week or two weeks ago. The beat the Jaguars today. Forty two twenty. They lost the broncos sixteen nothing and they lost the Jaguars twenty seven. They're schizophrenic but I think they are our biggest case of did something something did they light the spark. Did they turn the corner. When they beat the chiefs I think can we say that? I think maybe I mean Derrick. Henry is a problem impossible to solve staffer. You Ready Derrick Henry after November from November tenth or later since two thousand seventeen so late in the season last three years. He's he's averaging five point seven four yards per carry guys. Just don't WanNA tackle. I wouldn't want to use it. Are you fucking kidding. Me WanNA tackling. Either I WANNA give a shout out to whoever it was that somehow kept Derrick Henry from being switched positions when he was in high school. Yes because you know that there was a coach at some point. That was like this is going to be a tight end. This guy's going to be a defensive end or or like a an offensive tackle or something like that he was so big and he's always been big is entire life. But for some reason. Derrick Derrick Henry was able to be like fuck you. I'm going to be running back right and not get pushed to different positions right which is crazy for someone that's six foot three two hundred forty five pounds. Yes whoever that person was in Derek. Henry's life I wanNA thank you not allowing him to bully. I'd agree with that. That's why I like that. Yeah he he really is a guy you just don't want want to tackle and he scored. He scored two touchdowns today in sixteen seconds. That game was crazy because it was seven three and a half and then you blinked and and it was all of a sudden game being played in the thirties and forties. Yeah I think just from a physical standpoint of having to run into the end zone twice in the span of sixteen seconds. That's just impressive on. Its Own yes right there. In one of them was like a seventy touchdown. Yeah right yeah. Yeah they fumbled the kickoff the Jaguars did and then he scored again. Yeah that's that's very very impressive. Are the titans going. Convince themselves at Ryan. How's The guy he is the guy? Change of scenery is all took for Ryan Tannehill. He needs because they're going to give him like a three year deal and then next year he's going to be just Ryan Tannehill again. Well that's fine that's fine so tragic is GonNa take the next step. He is in the process. What we're seeing right now? Is Him taking the next step in front of a very is. And that's the difference between good Nashville and bad Nashville. Yeah is Ryan Tannehill is now playing so the titans are officially really one of those teams because now the AFC as bad as AFC is it's made for a really fun last month and a half of Football all because you have like three or four teams that are all in there like could make the playoffs and the titans are one of the titans are six and five. They get hot. They play the colts next week. That's another loser. Leaves town game. So the titans and culture both six and five raiders. Six and five steelers six and five and browns five and six All those teams could be the team that gets hot and gets out six seed off. I think that it was just today right that. The Dolphins were eliminated from playoff contention. Jose might have been a lot of teams. That are still in. The hunt is what I'm getting at. Yes are a lot of teams still in the hunt. He said that there was a big bust of illegal. Baloney that was is coming across the border in El Paso really it was like a record setting bust of frozen Baloney. Yeah I was GONNA say marrone was probably pretty broken. He might have something to do with it. What are the the El Chapo Chapel of of lunch meats? What what are the Jaguars do now I mean I think he just go back to Jacksonville? Play some golf. That's tough you. Here's what they you do verbal medium. Doug marrone is Wolverine. And he's looking at a picture and the Pictures Blake Bortles. Yup that's fact That's the fact that you don't know what you got till it's gone and that's what the judge dealing with right You know jags fans at least Blake was fun. Nick foles depressing when he's not when he's playing playing not playing. Well maybe put Gardner in spark do you put Garner is again. If you're out of playoff contention another spark all right before we do the last game. PF QUICK AD. Yeah I WANNA talk to you guys about our good good friends at me on these. 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Not Not a single like marital status all right content sharing means false story ends up on four plus out outlets and by four plus outlets. He mean I think he just means Barker was sports. Not It's all from yard barker and it's like facebook distinct at your docker uh-huh that bookmarked. So yeah. That's the broken model. Sorry sorry by US We shouldn't have Done this this clearly obvious again. I don't think it was clearly obvious. Okay Patriots cowboys to end the recap hangs out here. Liam's here do you want call him. Yeah he actually just texted me like as we are recording like Yo everything Gucci Okay and then was like being real nice like. How'd you move move? Go bad yet so hangs out here so before we do that. Let's read also. We had a backup plan. Our good friend friend Tom for Nellie. WHO has a rivalry with Hank? We're GONNA call him. Turns Out Tom's not real football guy. 'cause he's GonNa go sweep at like midnight. Classic Single Angle overworked blogger dude. It's midnight on Sunday. You go sweep Wanted Him all right. He's he wrote. I had These ready to go so If we had called them Tom Brady wants to play till he's fifty book can't complete fifty percent of his passes. Oh that's so. He was going to say that asked. Is Hey this as hank when we call them It's okay. The cowboys got called for a bullshit penalty because it makes up for the. NFL wouldn't let the Patriots get away with cheating assure. No that's true And then follow me on twitter at Hanney's which is totally not a nickname gave myself fifteen that that is tough. And that's our good friend Tom for. Nellie continuing the rivalry Okay let's go. Hank- is taking a vacation. Just one day vacation. He's not here and we thought we'd call him An have Liam just be like the record fucked up and PF tea and and big cat already laughed at. What should I do so just just don't even just say a just just run with it when I'm GonNa ask them about the Patriots game because they don't want to hear him get mad about turnover lock and everything now? He's he's moved on now. He's on penalty lock penalty. Lock so just fuck with him. Be really serious that the N.. Respect you're just getting this at the Patriots segment of the Of the show. He's probably he's really trust. I yeah I just closed audition and it's like I just the the file seen like it's just not the right size for like what is there still. I'm still uploading them right now. can I just like facetime you and then they killed you see a so then I'll just have you faced on. Yeah give it to me. He's going to be so sad he's he's drunk right now and he's pissed. Where are you going to bed? Sorely still doing this. Show thousand corrupted all files defied we mad subset. We scared I was very scared. I was mad. I okay. We'll see tomorrow congrats on the Patriots. Thank you have any. Were actually at the Patriots portion of the show right right now you have anything to say about turnover luck. So that's all right Patriots Cowboys Albouy. Jason Garrett's fucking idiots. Yeah To be fair to Jason Garrett he had his mind played with all week by master puppet Master Bill Belichick so Belichick was talking about a story. There's a story out in the news this week that That belichick wanted to to be the cowboys head coach back in the day when he got fired from the browns okay slash Raven said he wanted to quit for the cowboys. Okay and then Garrett had to deal with all the media fallout. They came from that. And just imagining that Jerry. Jones would much rather have ballot check than him. Yes so like knowing that his boss knows that he made a mistake. Going down this path okay. Fair But he's dumb and exactly what we thought would happen would happen. He got outcoached which isn't really I mean? Bill checks the best coach in NFL. History put Jason Really truly is stupid. Ezekiel Elliott was running and running. Well and the Patriots. If you had one thing that you could say about them it's probably probably they. You can run on them a little bit. 'cause they're pass defenses fantastic. Stefan Gilmore is the defensive player of the year but he touched the ball. I think he had six rushes in the second half and then he did the Dan Quinn special down seven with six minutes left to go forth fourth seven on the Patriots Eleven. You're in New England. You're trying to beat the New England patriots. You kicked a field goal is more points. You kicked a field goal. You fucking idiot. That's why I don't know the cause I can't kept cutting back from Jason Garrett's Bella check and they both were wet and the wind was blowing on the sidelines and it looked like it ad for the lighthouse. The House and Garett got panicky was like I better take the points while I can't on the road and then it turns out that the math didn't quite work out in his favor on that one on. You can't expect perfect. I'm actually at the point to Jerry. Jones did a all time Jerry Jones in the hallway press conference after where he said with the makeup of this team. I shouldn't be just frustrated. We have the talent so the talent isn't the problem What else could it be right so jerry? This is your where two point now. Were guess what. I don't feel bad for you dude. You should've fired him a while ago. It's on you the fact that he's still the coach. You can't be mad. That is your fault and he gave him vote. The confidence to he gave a vote of confidence that he's going to be our coach for the rest of the season. I has there ever been a coach. That's been fired in the same year that let's say that the cowboys were in first place in week fifteen or whatever and they go on to to win. That division has been a coach fired right before their team won the division division right before the playoffs right before the playoffs. I could see him doing. It's just crazy jerry. Jones keeps complaining about Jay Jason Garrett when you are the one person who can change this problem It's I I mean it really is your. It's it's the drill tweet. Someone helped me with my budget. Yeah he's channels every month Eh. You spending too much money on on on a bad coach. It would be helpful if Jason Garrett ever said a word and I know we. We mentioned it earlier but he he really doesn't talk ever. It's bizarre. Yeah for as much time as he gets on the camera his beady little mouth never it never opens up so I don't know what he does in terms of coaching right. What decisions as you making? I think he just. Yeah I don't know he just Kinda hangs out and beats up on really bad teams which I want to have a little discussion about Dak Prescott for a second here DAK Prescott who has been very good this year Dak Prescott. Whenever he plays like a big time opponent? It feels like he doesn't step up to it. And you know the bidders defense will make anyone not look great but he is five and thirteen against winning teams since it's two thousand sixteen so really not great so really not outright and when you think about the games this year like okay they lost to the saints in New Orleans. They lost to the packers at home. They lost to the Vikings at home. They lost the Patriots in New England. They have beaten up on some really shitty teams and the rest of the schedule. Rule has been not so great fortunately for him he plays in the NFC east. Yeah he gets to play six games against really shitty teams. I'm just saying don't you. Don't you have that feeling. Where Dak Jack Prescott? He's got to win one of these big games for me to be like okay now. I really feel because he is a good quarterback and you can't he's not like he is his Wherever you wanted the floating tears or whatever? He's probably somewhere in the top seven everywhere. You look at traffic analysis. He's he's in command of the second. Best offense offense in the NFL like Dak.. Prescott is definitely if you say yes or no. Should we pay this guy. It's a yes right. Yeah so so. I'm not even saying that. Oh they should chefs hesitation or second thoughts. I'm saying I'd like to see him. Go into a hostile environment or even have a good team come to Dallas and have a really really really great performance and I guess he kinda had it against the Vikings in their play calling fell apart there. But I don't know it just felt like there was some place that could have been had and it just never happened. I at at the very minimum. I would like to see by quarterback not get his ass kicked by random people in Panama City. Yes that's me is one of those things where it's like Point can't defend defend yourself in the capital of spring break after a couple jello shots. How are you going to be able to go out there? Foxborough and the wind and the rain with a smudge smudge cameras. That we somehow still can't figure out how to get water off camera lenses in the year. Two Thousand Nineteen Go. Pros should make that go revival again. which ones Kodak remember when we did that last year round as every every spring break we should just do it? And then he gets comments about No D. Dak.. Prescott is one of those quarterbacks. We're back still because we do this with a lot of there's there's guys who in super bowls and then there's everyone else and for everyone else it's a like pre black and white either your Dak Prescott Guy you're not and you don't really there's no nuance in there. I liked that Prescott a lot. I think he's a very good quarterback. I think he's guy you've got to give money to I. Just don't I can't remember. The last time he won a big began. We have to come up with levels own. Earn names of the different levels for quarterbacks because I think think where he's at right now is the the best good quarterback he is. You know what he is. He is right now taking over the seat. The Matthew Stafford is leaving vacant A guy who is a very good quarterback sometimes very good quarterback doc tons of talent can win you games by himself but you still haven't seen him have that big big moment this thing about about Dactyl is I don't think that Dak loses too many any games for you. Yeah that's true. 'cause he always can blame Jason Gear. He also has a lot better talented lions but yes. Yeah I just. I don't know it's just an interesting thing. I've been thinking about a lot with that because I think he has been phenomenal this year but then I went back and looked as like dim member really sort of three and the cowboys the best team in the NFC. He's the best beat no-one he's the the best good quarterback occasionally peaking at like the worst great quarterback right right. He is in. I always had the tiers of sock. It's just you have quarterbacks when Super Bowl and everyone else sucks he's the best sake but that doesn't feel right now because he's better than that. Yeah he's better than my point. He's better than suck right. That's actually that's the level that he's at right now right okay okay. So he's he's the suckiest quarterback that doesn't suck right got it. I think so uh-huh yeah I'll do better than Carson Wentz. Yes right now at this point. Yes that's powered rather have have Dak Prescott Okay let's so that is those are he has. Here's what Dak Prescott does. He has the ability ability to make skip. Bayless Look Sane. At times in skips blind allegiance to write occasionally one one out of every three games. I'm like skip Cabela's knew something he'll do something like this guy he when he gets. You know he'll be like running well or like play action hitting guys on on the run and you're like damn this guy's awesome and then he'll play a game like today where he wasn't he wasn't the reason the cowboys lost but I think he could have been the reason the cowboys won. There is yeah I finally got to it. He could. He could have won that game for the cowboys if he had elevated his game in extra spot Yep skip bayless isn't going to be throwing his Jersey into into the trash this week right he might put it in the penis heightened microwave right. It's like a couple of seconds here. It is just let them know yes. You're not above this. The cowboys defense played. Well Enough Tab Dak Prescott win that game And then the Patriots are just going to keep winning games ugly. And I don't think anyone I mean I know no one on the Patriots cares but this is just their mo felt like they just kind of beat up teams with their defense which is all time and their offense. I don't think their offense is ever going to click. I don't think because they just don't have until you kill Harry. It looks good but like they don't have those difference makers like a gronk ordering Tonio Brown or a Josh Gordon. When he's healthy kind of guy? I'M GONNA play Hank's roll real quick. Okay well they don't need to big cat. They don't have they like winning ugly right now and they're winning in a way that is utterly demoralizing. Anyone that's trying to play them and if you look at their offense yeah they don't have they don't have like a big play wide receiver but they got Julian Edelman Future Hall of Famer. That's proven that he's the best wide receiver in the history of the NFL. All in the playoffs. And you forgot one thing There's still a fifty percent chance that Antonio Brown and Rob Gronkowski come back together together. Also Nicole Harry might be a better wide receiver than Josh Gordon or Antonio Brown ever was true if you saw that today did you see Gottlieb. Oh my God I gotTa pull Scotland. I can tell you that I did. Not what would you are you. Oh it was good. We need to start treating Gottlieb like we do rick reilly because he does drop GOTTLIEB's sometimes they're like that's got leap like that was a good where steals tweets. That's that's true that's true Okay he wrote When Akil Harry dropped a ball he wrote can't drop that okay? Your name Holy Shit and it had zero tweets. That's still to this day. Eight hours ago out. How many? How many likes twenty four likes? He has two hundred sixty four thousand four. Oh how hard that is to do a tweet with that many followers you would have to try. I don't think I could. I don't think either of US could. What was the one that he had the other week it? It was like He took out some letters because there was no D.. Oh yeah that was fuck. It was really good. Yeah there's no D. Care member might have. I don't know there's No D. so good and I was like This is a really good tweet. Doug Portland Oh yeah Portland trailblazers waist bad at twitter. Oh Fuck Yes someone replied and then it's just it's gotta suck to be in because every time you tweet. Somebody's wide can't steal in credit that's never forget. Never forgot no forgive. Never Forget Okay so let's let's go. Let's move onto who's back. PT Got One more at. Yeah do do it. It's an ad for a very good friends at quip quip toothbrushes. They're amazing product. Ah I enjoy my quipped very much like the most about it is. I think I've shared I have a pedestal. Stay sink and I'm on a one. Man Wrecking pedestal sink. Suck I don't even know what it means. Actually the worst guy I hate them. 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Even if you're not sure high school yeah just blackout. Yeah I've never understood why that's the big drinking night instead of Friday. I always feel like Friday is the better night to go out because you don't have to worry about being hung over at Thanksgiving. I think you're going to be hung over over on Thanksgiving the only two things you don't need to do or get a Dui or end up on the Barcelona scrammed page. Yeah Yeah Yeah I also feel good age thing. I don't think you can be hung over like in your thirties. Nah then it's like okay. Everyone sitting watching you thanksgiving like what's going on Yzerman. Yeah absurd issue here get your act together right whereas when it's like it's like almost cute and funny when you. Yeah that's so funny. When I was twenty nine the night before Thanksgiving giving I broke a toilet? There you go. That was pretty cool. You weren't even drunk knows that's great like classic. Pf Tea break toilet so young and crazy and now now that I'm in my thirties. Toil we have a problem. We have to talk on this because well mostly because it'd be your second toilet break then it's a pattern right All right PFC what is that. Oh well you have to see the pants video shorts on he he puts on one leg and then a shoe and the other leg and then the show yeah Clearly somebody who does not put that on in eighteen years Radha practice disparate anything. You're not going to remember to do. He's gotTa feel so weird tonight like having pants on the goes to sleep in the pants. I don't know but he no. I bet you rip them off the second chance he probably does. There's probably a small part of them. That's kind of upset that they want. Yeah that's what I was saying to him. It's like when you live the life of luxury wearing shorts all the time for nineteen years and you have to go back and everyone knows you as the short sky. Yeah you'd like a little bit that that that little level of fame just kind of like very small community-based famous kind of a cool thing to have yeah but he feels like you know when they make toys fruit where like a long sleeve shirts yes. That's that's exactly what his his legs develop an allergy to pants like that hockey goalie had a couple of years ago. The ads or Hosa breaks out in a rash on your shins. Not good all. Hi Who's your who's back. Pfc My who's backing the week is the NCWA delays back big time. Because so wiseman he's GonNa Oh let him play the up there allowing him back at at Memphis but he asked to pay fourteen hundred dollars in fines to the NC double A.. Okay which is AH I. Applaud the NC Double A.. For figuring out a way to find your players who aren't allowed to be making money and expect them to pay you yeah to come back and play now it's next level super villain so congratulations for innovation the NC Double A. is terrible and we. We agree on that but it it is funny when everyone's like you're finding a guy who who gets paid nothing. I'm pretty sure. James Wiseman got paid deficient. They figured that out. It's making money. It's also should be making money above board and he should be making a lot more money should be making market value. But James Weisman's making money it should. It actually might be a trap. If I'm advising wiser if you if you're able to pay a fourteen hundred dollar fine back to the way they might just suspend you and be like how were you able to afford to pay. Hey this right well. And then Jay Williams and classic fucking Duke Fashion. He's doing like go fund me so then he's going to donate it to James Wiseman and get memphis like you know they're gonNA and get the death penalty oh so he's trying to eliminate because he thinks that that memphis could potentially beat duke later on trying to get rid of their best player right right. Is this a recruiting violation of some somewhere. Hopefully for Duke for hopefully yeah They won't it won't matter coach cable. Just pay off the fucking NCWA. We should just stars as long as though is the. NCAA even allowed to find people. I I never remember this being part of their emo- before just now I don't know I feel like if you issue a fine to somebody somebody with enough confidence and just hope that they pay you. You probably get it right once every two or three times. Well I basically through through this entire process of paying players and all this discussion discussion about what the NCAA does. It's it's essentially come down to the fact that the AA just is that guy in your friend group who organized shit and no one wants to be the guy who organizes shit so what does the NCAA do well. They kinda organized you know like schedules invasions evasions places like everyone play each other and then they like the gym time they get the ice time. Well Yeah actually you know what I don't really I WANNA do that. You don't Memphis. Memphis should just pay the head of the instable a by allowing him to attend a freshman philosophy course. That's probably worth about fifteen hundred dollars. Yes right there right yeah you get to take the The intro to To Earth Sciences and sit in a classroom with five hundred people think you hard class scientists. I remember that was hard. I think dinosaurs another classic took very hard. Human anthropology was a tricky went from. Actually you know what I was in this one class that I get a D. minus but it was the class that I probably The most proud of I learned how to read. EKG Results and I. I was allowed allowed into the class by mistake. And so it was like a four hundred level biology class where I was basically taking this course alongside doctors. Yeah and I had to teach myself itself like how to what the human heart was made out of nine ended up passing it by the skin of my teeth. But somehow I got sick sick. Flow your a your doctor right now. If if I basically told the totally inconsequential story to say. You're down if I read your EKG results. Right now I can tell you how big the different chambers of your heart work like of credit is you. Do you do eat much Chili. That's the prognosis me. I do you have any other. WHO's back Yeah my other. WHO's back in the week as we'd yeah so Zona state versus Oregon. On Saturday. Night was awesome was awesome game the rough guide on the Mike and he said please reset the game clock to four minutes and twenty seconds and the crowd. The crowd went nuts. The Arizona State students when nuts it'd probably Arizona state and Oregon. I would guess smoke the most as we seats ecstasy as a combined all big molly but when you come down strew yeah. How'd you know I don't know Guy That is awesome. That's an awesome moment PAC twelve after dark. That's right game was was very fun to watch All right my who's back in the week I got to Feast Week just feast week in general and all the sports is when your eyes bleed because you just watch college basketball all day and then football that when Thursday starts and you have football day Thanksgiving and that Friday is one of the sneaky favorite days because there has the start a rivalry week and you have random games at noon on a Friday is at the egg bowl. The walls most play Thursday night Nebraska. Iowa's always Friday which is awesome to watch you think. VIRGINIA VIRGINIA TECH LIKE RANDOM Games. I love watching on that Friday. And then you have a full then you still have a full college football weekend in front. There's nothing better. And then it's also rivalry week means the reintroduction of Prank wars between in schools and played each other yes and then The other whose back is people getting really mad about regional regional foods on twitter. This is a big week for that for Thanksgiving. Yeah just just just like food takes in general get very annoying around Thanksgiving time It will you know. Someone's one's GonNa do the cranberry sauce debate some do. The stuffing is actually overrated to be. It's actually called dressing. I've I've heard you know the Pumpkin pie stuff. I've heard the like. Oh do you you have ham or or you know people do that. It just sucks. The whole thing sucks turns out. You probably eat something different than someone else in a different part of the country or has a different like ethnic background crazy but you know what we can all come together and agree that eating a shitload of food is really good. That's the thing so just whatever. Whatever food food you liked growing up in whatever reaching grope and just make sure to eat three times the normal amount of it and then you get a stomach ache no matter what part of the country you're from if you to full and and that's the greatest part of the year point out the guy who's going to be like? Oh Yeah actually like the Green Bean casserole is my favorite or like Oh. I put marshmallows in this. Like you know how everyone in just does this for the entire week. Just stop on this debate. A billion we'll say don't go around putting raisins and shit. That raises don't need to be no don't do that. Don't do that no no you don't do you put i. Don't care put raisins in your. Don't give a fun. Yeah are you. Did you do that that triggered you absolutely viral tweet. That's like going around like controversial food. Take Oh get the reply. So that's from former like absolutely hilarious whereas people being dead serious like a guy said Ed Saint Louis has the best Chinese food fouled fat guy was like I. I like Ranch on my steak instead of barbecue so twitter Hank doing that definitely twitter by nature like there will always be an underlying food debate. That's like simmering on twitter but there are certain certain times. Where food debates take over your entire time line like this socks in that happens right now and then when I was gonna say that's on US House next I don't do it and Trey Wingo? We like you go X.. Golick family don't do it but yeah it's when these stupid annoying debates take over the entire her timeline like another big one as Eggnog. Good her back up. y'All other you like you like it or you don't so I like the simmering food debates where it's like you. Can you can actively ignore the food debates going on twitter when it gets to a point like this week where we are forced to read them all. Well that's when it sucks Okay Ultra Tuck ins are back to yes. Traditions are big picture docking and just have the center of it be a devil and hodges. We should have hank fry a Turkey with frozen and blow himself indoors. Just do all the stuff. He's not gonNA listen to this so he won't even know. Ah We should do that. You know the real Turkey is Obama. Obama all right seekie question. PF T- Promo Code. Take ten dollars to seek my. CK question he gets six redskins tickets six redskins tickets town you buy you can buy enough to do a whole the protests. Yeah can you kidnap enough people against their will to take them to a redskins game for free. This is why media is broken seekie question Promo Code. Take ten dollars off. Do you want to kind of the week. Yeah let's see if a football guy that was question we're at the we're at American Ninja Warrior time by the way MHM Merkin. Andrew War is on forty and night. What's the name of the guy is like Andy we'd or something? Yes the Crawford version of Dick Wolf these guys it. Also the weird part is it's like old American. Ninja Warrior is clearly was films like four or five years ago. Yeah who cares once one person you'll with these guys are these guys are the bengals fan that is living on his roof to get away from his wife there at that exact guy except they construct an obstacle course in their backyard that they spend nine hours on Russia from Sunup to sundown to get away from their family and the best part of American American Ninja Warrior. These guys are great athletes but they should. You know how there's this wall I think. They have to climb the big wall to finish. Yeah it shouldn't be a wall it should just be someone on standing there with a baseball and throws it to him and see if they can catch it. None of the can't none of those guys can triple a basket. No no that should be the final challenge like here. Catch this football. That's it and then they they all drop it. Wouldn't that be hilarious if they all like. Climb these huge walls. Do this obstacle course swim through this thing. Go through these is net and then you just throw them a full five yard out. And he can't catch it either bodies our idiot savant Einstein Kentucky shoes no I could build a nuclear bomb discusses way cooler to smartest guy in the world married. His cousin people don't talk about that enough yeah that's fucked up so did the F. D. R. Bay. Wow when you see a hot piece ass like late thirties. Very handsome woman. I think we as a society had a moment for marrying cousins was married cousins having a moment high at the end of in your Pantheon of incest. Okay here's full-on guy the week. Let's get this back together on. Track Raiders head coach. Jon Gruden for Calling Ref fucking cock second mother fucker. He did that and and he did it in the meadowlands inspired by Tony Soprano yes. That's when you kind of wish you put the playcalling sheet in front of your face. No I like it better this Jon Gruden actually he. He doesn't get me. She's on sinking ship literally said I'm on a sinking ship Michael Irvin forgetting very spiritual and breaking down cowboys patriots. So what did he say. I think he said something along. The lines of Goliath wasn't sent to defeat David he was sent to make. David believed that he could beat Goliath one of the more coherent things that Michael Irvin's said on the air he didn't how how like a dog in the middle of his explanation sells wedding. I feel like I of course I would. I think we've talked about this but Michael Irvin Super Bowl Week. Miami Florida I mean he is like the mayor of Miami It's going to be shut on Miami by the way Danny boy king. That's the worst loss. Ever two point favorite neds revenge. Putsch Butch Davis Revenge. Game Crazy All right injured youngstown. State quarterback Nathan Maze for taking one last snap at his career. Despite being out for the season I watched view. Do you watch this video. Nazi this one. What did he injure because he couldn't even even put weight on it? It looks like he just had gotten injured. They yes so they're carrying him out into the field his weird jangling right. I think his leg Legge died that or they don't have izzy waiting in line for surgery it seems somewhat concerning that he's not able to put anybody on but but he also doesn't have any sort of medical device on his leg brace or a cast or anything right. He's just kind of hanging out with an injury like a deer in the wild l.. Might if they thought that was weird right yeah. This looks a little weird. It looks like if you had if you dropped Nathan Maze and I'm sure he's a nice guy and shut up coach Bo. But if you drop Maith nays on the ground he'd still be laying on the field and it would never be able to get like up or home or anything and he took a knee. That was the play. Let them take a knee. Essay were beating Illinois. Say Secretary through I was actually threads can and just have them be their victory. Victory Formation Guy is easily. Yeah because it is. It is a Moroccan singer warrior. Our I was like there's one percent part of me that that was hoping that they would know this guy and just fucking to actually improve his leg would have been so funny like if you if you're just a pissed staff who they're playing they're playing Illinois state. Yeah if you're just roll birds and you just like fuck this man. I don't want to lose my last game because everyone else's last game to that's true I'm just GonNa blow up the line here. I mean you have your one chance to get on sports center and be the discussion of the week. Yeah Damn just one time All right Last Texas head coach. Tom Herman for pumping his players up by headbutting them without a helmet and they lost by like a billion. That's fine he's eligible is going. That sucks that clip has gone around. Listen Texas is back to being not back officially. I think we can say right Tom. Herman I guess good is he still kisses players I think so. I don't know I think he's channeled all his weird sexual energy designing that like uterus shaped thing. That's it's GonNa be in the Texas Stadium Very Weird. Yeah very very weird see at Texas is not back and might be looking for new coach probably not fish. Maybe it depends on it depends on how drunk the boosters that matter are true yes true at any given time. If there's one poker game that goes bad in Texas you can just end up with a pissed off booster ready to make a buyout. Well good news. Is the cowboys covered today. So Tom Herman you have a job for another week. It's true. Yeah all right last actually. No it's probably worse that the boosters made money betting on the right now right Frisky with the buyout checks you need to so you need to hope and pray that That other Texas teams. Don't cover the yes that's true Okay lasts up. I just wanted to mention one thing not to Brag what we called it but Yulon Elon Musk. Is just a front. For Jeff bezos because his cyber truck was one of the funniest things. Yeah the the. The black wheels doesn't the handler thing. They threw that rock it and it went through. I don't yeah pretty good. He's like well no actually didn't go through it. It just shattered the he's like. Yeah we have this this state of the art bulletproof glass and they threw a little rock in and just shattered. Is that truck meant for Mars or is that supposed to be used here on. Plants landed on Muster's cells shit. We don't need the memory. Sold all those fucking blow torches. He's got a interesting pressing business model with this thing though. which is if you sell something for a high enough ticket price? You only have to sell like two of them right. The world's dumbest rich people. And then you end up making a profit now now. Jeff Bezos is getting a pass again. I don't know if that's true but he when people talk about you all must doing stupid shit they forget about Jeff. Jesus that's true that's true. He's brilliant wait. What does the cyber part of this truck does? The truck WIFI truck has WIFI blockchain in front of anything then it becomes bitcoin. bitcoin related you cyber truck. You can hook it up to your spotify and shows you on your Under navigation system where all the horny local singles. Yeah this is so oh sex cyber truck who doesn't need a cyber truck. I hope that goes like I hope we go backwards in Evola. We kinda are but get back to the Hummer days. Remember when the H.. twos were just the Oji homers yeah the OJ. Hummers then put the H.. Two is like well. This one isn't that bad for the environment. He should put flame. Author is on the side of his cyber truck. Yeah cyber truck it up like tax fall out of the CYBERTRUST doesn't even have a bitch and sound system but she's got some shitty just a Quality sub woofers knowing you on Muskie probably built a whole cyber truck and then like didn't put any cup holders I sit down. You're like wait. Where the fuck where put my coffee? It comes with Like the I tunes the iphone that had you to on it yeah. It comes preloaded with grimes albums. Uptake scam to make his girlfriend. More Money Ah man all right. That's our show will see everyone. Wednesday remained reminder. We're not GONNA have a show on Friday but we're going to do an extra long Wednesday probably due to interviews and throwing a preview for the whole weekend so that anyone who has to work on Friday morning has something extra to listen to but Yeah we'll see everyone on Wednesday love I guess.

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Breaking Down The Flacco Trade, Kaepernick Agrees To Settlement, & The Combine Behavioral Ban | NFL Podcast with Albert Breer

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Breaking Down The Flacco Trade, Kaepernick Agrees To Settlement, & The Combine Behavioral Ban | NFL Podcast with Albert Breer

"Hey, guys. We're gonna kick things off by explain to you. I like the Denver Broncos did last week that jetty honored come into breakout. All the news from what turned out to be a very busy, February we can balance all with wrappings up a six pack of your questions was. All right. Welcome back in two weeks out from the Super Bowl still eight days out from the scouting combine right in the middle of February's, the QB podcast with Albert freer. Tons of news to get to this week surprisingly enough. Normally this is a dead time of year. But it's come fast and furious over the last seven days and navy. The big one of the biggest pieces of news playing to get to. But one of the biggest pieces of news this week dropped on Wednesday. The Broncos agreed to a deal to a fourth round pick to the Baltimore Ravens for Joe flacco, and the price tag seems low the situation's a little bit different. And so I wanna take you guys through that. What I think it says about where the NFL is from a quarterback standpoint. And why I liked the the the move for the Broncos even though I'm not wild about flacco as a player while like the move for the Broncos really this. Boils down to four things for me. Okay. Number one. I think is upgrade over case keenum. I that's pretty easy to explain away. Number two the draft pick compensation. It was not much a fourth round pick. That's what they got in return for Marius Thomas. So in essence, they wind up dropping about twelve spots in the draft order in the fourth round and trade Maria's Thomas four Joe flacco. I think that's a winner for them. Number three is contracts reasonable. He's do eighteen and a half million this year, that's two and a half million less than tyrod Taylor made for the Browns, basically, the placeholder and then a backup to Baker Mayfield in two thousand eighteen he if they want to keep them is on the books for sixty three over the next three years. Twenty one million per is about two thirds of what Aaron Rodgers got per year when he did his new deal. So it's not even close to the top of the quarterback market number four. And this is the important part is this. Where I think we can extrapolate this across the league in kind of look at this as as as an important way that you have to look at the quarterback position. This is much about mitigating damage and avoiding disaster as anything else to me when I look at this on the surface. I think a lot of people look at flacco. And I mean, look big tall pocket. Passer was easy. Compare him to Paxton Lynch is easy to compare him to Brock Osweiler, right? Like, this is John Elway blindspot. I actually think in a way this is going to help. John Elway avoid stepping into the ditch again. And the reason why the worst place you can be as an NFL team is in a situation where you desperately need a quarterback because generally teams that are in that spot and have a high first round pick in the Broncos have a high first round pit Billy there either that or be one their forum or they'll manufacturer one, and that's how Christian ponder winds up going in the first round to the Minnesota Vikings in two thousand eleven after they lose Brett farve. That's how EJ manual winds up going to the Buffalo Bills in two thousand and thirteen. That's how Paxton Lynch woman's up being the subject of a trade up by the Denver Broncos. Ios in two thousand and sixteen after they lost both Peyton Manning and Brock Osweiler. And so I think in a certain way this helps the Broncos of wide that okay? Basically they've got three team options on on. Joe flacco twenty nineteen twenty twenty twenty twenty one. This will not preclude them from taking a quarterback with the with the tenth overall pick. If they like drew lock or Daniel Jones Dwayne Haskins or whoever it is. And that guy false them. They can take that guy. They gonna flacco as the bridge guy for two thousand nineteen and they can move to that guy either during the season or in twenty twenty if they don't like this year's class, you know, what they can wait on twenty twenty if they don't like where they're at in twenty twenty they gonna wait till twenty twenty one they in essence have given themselves three years of flexibility at the quarterback position. And that's what I like about this move is they're not going to be pigeonholed into a single year where they have to drop the long-term answer the quarterback position. They've got a little bit of an older team. Some of those guys von Miller. Chris Harris are Emmanuel Sanders getting a little. Longer in the tooth. And so I look at this situation for the Broncos. They give them some selves some opportunity. Now, the cost isn't too bad and Jenny Connor. I think the flexibility that they give themselves going forward. They're not marrying themselves. Like the Jaguars may be forced to marry themselves to to Nick foles for a couple of years that make prevent them from drafting a quarterback to me like what I really like about the Broncos did here. And look, I don't think Flaco a great player. But why really like about it? It's just that flexibility. It gives you going for where if you like when this year, you take them if you don't you can wait. Yeah. I didn't think that the there is a very high level of outrage on Twitter last week at the move Gary gramling point that out his Sunday freak out. And I think he was very spot on very strong of unions about the trade. I didn't feel that strong about it. I felt like sort of you dead. You know, they're going to make another move to find their quarterback whether it's this year or next year. Flacco is a placeholder. Her. We see place holders a lot. He is, you know, a pretty good place holder. So I mean, that's fine. Like, I didn't have any. I didn't have any strong problem with it. I didn't think so either. I mean, I think the one thing that someone fair question for Elway at some point is when do you stop this sort of perpetual, sort of we can still compete we can still compete with this with this kind of group of veterans. But I think if you're a fan base, you would rather your GM go out and do something like this, especially since it's not gonna prevent you from drafting rookie and instead of punting on this year, which would have done if they didn't get Joe flacco. I mean, I don't really their options. Does this allow you to both O'Connor, you know, like doesn't this allow you to like like, okay? Like if that next guy is out there, then we can go and grab him, but we can still compete with the guys we have now, you know, we still give on Miller and other chance and give Chris Harris chances if they're good enough. They're good nothing. Got a veteran quarterback with them. And if they're not we haven't really prevented ourselves from going and getting the next one if we want to I think if. It's just a true bridge situation that that's something that Elway just probably hopefully needed to clear with Joe flacco. Because certainly wasn't a situation. He was thrilled to be in firma Georgie of last year. But I think he ended up coming around to to to the fact that Lamar Jackson was there. But at the same time, you'd hate to sort of, you know, watch him sort of sink a season. Just because you know, he's he's mad that you drafted somebody else behind him. Again. That was not a Bud Light. By the way, that's a polar seltzer. It is two pm. And I am not getting started on a Monday afternoon by Cass. More more exciting now, but flavor polar seltzer raspberry lime Raza old standby for us here, you know, in up in Massachusetts. I I actually I actually got into polar cells probably about like, I thought like if I I was I thought it was kind of bland, but I feel like it's one of those things that like it grows on you. And my wife has been drinking them for like as long as I've known her, right? This sounds like the ad read, by the way. I like, hey of polar wants to step up and contribute to the podcast. I'm not I'm not stopping them at all. But yeah. So it's it's a dictator in a way. And I can't it's not like physically addictive. But like, it's just like, I don't know. There's something addictive about having it out of the can't because it's not the same out of the bottle either that I have six cans of seltzer in one day. Problem. He's guys. Are you a seltzer guy Connor leg Wegmans when they're on sale for a dollar nine nine? I will get Wegmans brand lemon seltzer sort of a mix up from the Britta. But that's that's the extent of just a really exciting. You know, drink choices. You gotta go polar seltzer you got to Jenny Jenny. Oh, you on polar? Seltzer you on one of the fancy ones is this just come out all kinds, I like polar like wagmans at like LaCroix, you know, LaCroix's kind of like the like the Dom of of seltzer is right. Isn't it? It's a little bit a little bit pricier, maybe. But it's still in a row of drinks. I mean, the fancy font on the cans, I don't know if you've seen that does have strong Instagram influence or presence. So that's why I made LaCroix the official beverage of Jenny nice training camp tour this past summer. I actually wasn't really aware of what Instagram influences influencers were until I watched the fire. Doc, you saw that. I'm assuming right? Yeah. Like now, I now I have a full understanding of what Instagram influences influencers are. So makes me like I missed a calling. You know, you have you feel you feel like you've missed the calling to be an Instagram influence for certain. Yeah. Yeah. You're still young Connor. You can still make that happen. I mean, you got the look, right. Yeah. I think I think it's everything else. I gotta work on. Yeah. Was jump into the news news number one. In the NFL. Conquer Nic N read Eric Reed announced a settlement on Friday afternoon, ending the collusion case the players brought against the league. The terms have been having surfaced thus far with confidentiality agreement in place. I can't get words out this morning. Yeah. I like, look I think that as much as anything else because we don't know a ton about this about the the the terms of the settlement. It's hard to have a real strong take either way other than I can just tell you my experience having covered these things as that settlements generally benefit both sides, but hurt both sides to in in usually. And this has been like just my experience in the cases that I've covered in court, usually, it means there's no clear path to victory for either side, and I sort of feel like the most the most and I wrote about this on Monday. Feel the most likely the most likely scenario here is that CONCACAF Eric Reed, and their lawyers were able to get information through the discovery process and through the depositions that didn't necessarily like convicted of collusion, but that the league just didn't want out there. And my example of of what that would be you. Remember, the Tom Brady males getting out like all the stuff that Tom that got out there and Tom Brady, and none of it like like very little of it actually incriminated him some sort of incriminated him. But probably wasn't enough to convict the Brady didn't want that stuff out there. You know, like he didn't want all personal emails and all that different correspondence out there. But it got out there as a result of the case, and my best guess is here because I know how the NFL's tried to avoid discovery in the past my best guess is here that cap and read were able to get a hold of information that was at the very least embarrassing and maybe incriminating. Towards the league that didn't necessarily convict the league of collusion. But the league was willing to pay to have go away. Yeah. You know, Michael McCann, rotas smart legal analysis for for our site. And he he said, you know, whoever had lost the arbitration could have challenged in federal court. And that's the way that some of this stuff would have become public. Now that would have been an extra step, and there's no guarantee that all of this stuff would have been made public. But this was certainly away for to prevent that from happening for the NFL and to sort of for them. I mean, they have in a lot of ways demonstrating a desire to have, you know, the cabernet stuff kind of go away and multiple ways. And so I think that for them this probably was you know, one way to do that. I mean, really the terms of the settlement aside the lasting impact. Obviously is this you know, social movement that cabernet started. And you know, the fact that there's this really heightened attention. On you know, racial injustice and police brutality that there wasn't before that there is currently a social Justice platform in place. Thirty two teams are involved with that, you know, he sort of forced us to talk about issues that many of us had never, you know, really considered in the depth that he prompted, and so, you know, there there is no there should be no talk of a sellout for him. Just like there should have been. No talk of of Malcolm Jenkins being a sellout. When people oh, Malcolm Jenkins, the players coalition apologies based just based on how this is all gone like my feeling is. And Malcolm tweeted, something that could have been interpreted that way on Friday afternoon. Like, I do feel like I do feel like they were unfairly put in a corner as a result of all this. And that's probably look that's probably a result of the crap throwing contests that the whole thing turned into. Yeah. I, you know, I think it's one of these things where regardless of you know, how this all shakes out. You know, I lot of people have tried to pivot this to now will cabinet play. And you know, will this lead to to spot back in the NFL? And I know that his lawyer had mentioned the Panthers on CNN is a potential destination. Given the Eric Reid was playing there. But I think it's just more interesting to see what he just continues to do like to to Jenny's point. I mean, he forced a national conversation. You know, how how extremely difficult is there'd been presidents who have not been able to force national conversations, and you know, have people consider things that they hadn't before and to walk mile in somebody else's shoes. And so I think with whatever this settlement provides them, whatever sort of sense of security or whether he wants to continue an activism an activist role, which I'm sure he does with this money. I'm fascinated. See kind of what the next step for him is. I think that that's really. Where our focus should be as you know. What's his next act? What's his next idea because football, just maybe that's already passed by? It's kind of interesting too. 'cause it's like because the confidentiality agreement it's sort of like, I feel like in a certain way, it makes him like an I don't know Jenny. Look like, I don't know if you'd agree with this. I feel like it sort of moves him from exile football player. Now like flawn activists. You know, what I mean like the because that's been such a big part of everything for the last two and a half years, and such a big part like the whole story was that, you know? And now that like you can't really talk about that anymore now that that's sort of like not a huge part of his past. But part of it's past. It's like now like he's sort of moves to being full on activists. That makes sense. I mean, there has been such a conversation would be, you know, would he be able to prove collusion was there enough of enough evidence between multiple NFL teams and owners to prove collusion. And now that is. In the past. However, you know, now moving forward what happens is he still desires to play football, and is the idea of collusion still alive. Right. You know? I mean, I do think the more that has his lawyer talks about the potential of him continuing to want to play the more the focus is going to be on that part. Right. You know is he interested in getting back until league in what teams are are potentially interested in in. If they are interested, why aren't they interested? So this did close that chapter of the past few years. But the that's you know, that's the easiest thing to talk about. Now, right is what what becomes of his football career? And will he be interested in playing? And so I do think that that is still going to be part of the dialogue until he says football is in the past for me. I thought it was interesting to the thing like that nugget of his demands like like that dropped on Friday morning. Like, I don't believe having covered the NFL for. As long as I've covered the NFL. I I don't believe in coincidences anymore. And it just makes me think like maybe the league got that out there that like, hey, you know, he's asking for twenty million dollars from the af they wanted to have him and he's not like an an and he didn't bite it that. So how bad is this guy really wanna play? Like I felt like that was. I mean, look there are a lot of X NFL people that work at the af like does it seem crazy to you guys? Like, the idea that maybe that was all orchestrated because it just feels like a really weird coincidence that that's like I mean, those two pieces of news were separated by six seven hours. Yeah. I mean, it was definitely didn't feel like a coincidence, especially because it wasn't like a natural time. I mean, the af opener was last weekend, and they were in training camps a month ago. So you saw felt like it would've already come out. And even if it's true, I mean, it's just seems to be perpetuating this stupid narrative. I mean, that's. About how much money like you said. I mean, that's Joe flacco tyrod Taylor money in the NFL. And so if I was calling Kabir Nick, and I was playing in this upstart league where you know, three thousand people attend these games. That's exactly what I would be asking for because you're risking your future. Anyway, you know, your NFL prospects. If that's what you end up wanting to do so why not get paid and NFL salary. But the fact that like people are so desperate to kinda get this out there that well, he, you know, he didn't go playing the CF L or he didn't go play in the af I mean 'cause he wants to play in the NFL, you know. The NFL. I did say those things about Tim tebow. Like, I remember saying those things about Tim tebow in two thousand twelve and I believe them like, and I always felt like with Tibo, I always felt like Tibo. There was an element of him that that sought the spotlight. You know, that wasn't just and look it's it's fine. But I always felt like Tibo there was this element of him that like I think he loved playing. But I think he really loved the spotlight he really loved being on stage. And so I think if you took the stage away, which is what you do if you're going to Canada are you going to the arena league like then becomes became a lot less appealing to Tibo. And like, look, that's no no slap at Tibo. You know what? I mean. That's just I just felt like that's what what it was. You know? And it's one is though that he refused to acknowledge the fact that he wasn't really like a replacement level and fell quarterback and didn't wanna play another position. Whereas another quarterback is is maybe not being asked to be on a team because of what he believes police. No. But I I think that the thing I think we've all running to players before we all run into the sky before we've learned to players before who like Rodney Harrison was this way like he would go and in the parking lot. You know what? I mean if somebody asked him to play he he'd go and play in the parking lot for for free. And there are certain guys that are like that. There are ton of them. But there are certain guys that are like that. And there are quarterbacks who are like that. And so I think a lot of times every quarterback. Well, they're they're they're they're elements were every quarterback skits compared to that. And I don't think that's what cabinet is. I don't think that's what Tiba was. I think that's what Brady is. I think that's what Peyton Manning is. But like, I don't think that there's that many guys that are like that. And that's okay. It's but I mean, I that element of it certainly exists. Like, I don't think Colin cabinet was all in on football the way that you know, certain guys who at the highest level of the game are, and that's fine. That doesn't make them less of a person. So Brady if deflate gate had expanded into this thing. Where Brady was such a was viewed as such by all thirty two general managers that nomad sign him because he sneaks around and he deflates football that Tom Brady would play in the af for three hundred thousand dollars. Yes. Because I think he will be I I actually do. I think he would be so motivated to shove it up. Everybody's ass that he would like I swear it's just the way he is like I just think that there are certain guys that are wired differently. Again, it doesn't mean I don't think it be. I don't take it to being less of Colin cabinet or anyone else. But you know, there are certain guys that are wired that way, and I don't think based on what I know. I don't think he's wired that way and what I'd say. Most of the NFL isn't wired that way, there are certain guys that are you know, Brady's like that Manning's like that. There are certain guys that are just that that I think are just built that way. And for better or worse. Like, I think it's fair to ask those questions again, I asked those questions about Tibo seven years ago. And I thought it was a fair question to ask because everybody position Tibo as GI Joe. You know, what I mean, like everyone position Tibo is like the ultimate competitor. Well, if you're the ultimate competitor. Don't we wanna go prove everybody wrong? Like, don't you wanna go into Canada going to the arena league and show them up? Like, isn't that? What you'd wanna do instead of sitting there unemployed? Like that was like to me like I looked at that. That was part of the question with Tibo. And like, I think that we can you institue there. Lots of guys who who wind up out of the NFL that have the opportunity to go to Canada or the arena league. And don't do it. Because they just like, that's it. I have had enough. And I think there are certain guys that would be willing to do it. That are wired a little differently again. It's not saying that one guy like one group of players great, the others. You know, awful. It's just like I just feel like that exists. And I don't think it's an insult against Khan cabinet to say like, I don't think he's wired the way that certain quarterbacks who've wanted the highest level are well, I feel like that's a big jump to make without knowing exactly what he wanted. And consider the fact that it's we accept an embrace the fact that there are players you hold out for a better contract because they don't wanna play on their current team for what they're worth, right? So if you're calling. Oppor? Nick, you lead your team to a SuperBowl. You were starting quarterback. Like, you wanna play for what you're worth I feel like players respect that. Because that's what you have a limited time, you have a limited window. And so I think it's I mean, I if you if you have only one way back in if that's gone if you only have one way back in are you willing to take that way back in? I mean, I don't know. I mean think about we wouldn't say that, you know, Aaron Donald is not a good competitor. Because he hell he he's holding out during training. I don't I can't line. The two up though. I don't think the two because it's like. Like Aaron Donald like like, basically like saying like, okay, I've got x amount of time to make this amount of money, and I'm gonna maximize that's a business decision. And I that's that doesn't knock on him as a competitor. At all. I think like with if you've only got one way in if you only got one way back in like inter Donald going to be welcome back to the Rams, no matter what. And those two situations those two holdouts, right? If you've only got one way back in. That's the only way you're going to be able to play football for a living again as at the present time. That's where Tibo was. And that's where cap spin like are, you willing to take are you willing to open that door and walk through it? And I think certain guys aren't certain guys aren't in like it's just again like that was with Tibo. It was just like it was hard for me to swallow. Some of the stuff that people would say about Tibo in the way that they would position because it's like, well, if he's who everybody says, he is then shouldn't he be playing, you know? And I thought it was weird when he was willing to get on a bus, and you know, go for minor league outpost a minor league. Gap post to play baseball when he wasn't willing to do the same thing in football. You know, and so if we're going to like, I just think that there's an element of this. That's look there were real questions about you know, where cap was developmentally at the end and fifteen and sixteen and the fact that you know, he wasn't willing to open doors were available to him to play football. I think it's fair to ask some questions that are associated with that. The af would be one of them and then the opportunity to go and playing Canada or somewhere else over the last three over the last two years. I think it's fair to ask those questions to the difference is you're on one hand you're being challenged. Right. You're not good enough. You have to prove. So then you would maybe be more likely to go to Canada or play in the af if you're being told physically you're not good enough. Whereas capper Nick, it's he's being told. We don't want you because you took a stand for something that you believe strongly and that created national conversation. So I think it would be you would feel insulted. You wouldn't wanna go to? Canada or the a af right. I totally understand. I totally understand being insulted at first, but like doesn't that wear off after a little while? And it's like I really wanna play like I really like it's only been like a year and a half. And it was years. It was two years. This is not like, oh, I mad about something. This is like this is racial inequality and social injustice like it's gonna go. No, no. No, no. But no, no. No. No, no. But those are two different things though. Right. Like, like, the the protests, the activism is one thing footballs and other thing and look like if there's one way back in like, wouldn't you wanna take that route like wouldn't I guess it's the same question of like if if somebody's laid off from ESPN are they willing to go back and work in Sacramento, if they have to to get back in, you know, it's just it's I don't know. I I feel like if you love something enough, then you're going to do whatever you're gonna open whatever door you have to open go in. And I think that that's where some of the questions with some of the NFL teams came up. So tomorrow, you're going back to the as berry park press for for that was a long intern salary a long time ago that was a very very this is around the horn. I'm giving points Jenny. All right, news item. Number two, Connor. I was so stunned by the okay here, we go on Friday, the NFL sentimental teams. Explain that Mississippi State defensive lineman, Jeffrey Simmons and Louisiana tech pass rusher. Jalen, Ferguson, previously banned from the combine for prior incidences of violence would be loud to go to Indianapolis. But only take a physicals I think this is like a continuation of the NFL trying to kind of lay down something, and then getting pushed back, and then trying to have it both ways, and you can tell a lot of scouts. You know, a lot of executive type people even just the ones that are recently employed that kind of yet about this stuff on Twitter or on happy about this. I mean, the combine is supposed to be a forum for teams to find out more information. But I guess you have to find that happy medium. I think the NFL still struggling to find that. But I think maybe the old guard also has to realize that if you're not able to go out and get that information in. This day and age than you know, the you probably you don't need the combine maybe as well. Yeah. Just like like you said like, I think this is a struggle. That's happening and has happened over the last I would say ten years, probably which is between, you know, the the combine isn't entertainment product, and the combine is a functional part of scouting. And I just like if the idea is to gather information, right like, and if the idea is to give the teams a baseline where they're gonna get everyone in the same environment. Right. Like, that's the ideas. Like, you're running your forties in the same environment. You're taking your interviews in the same environment. They're taking your physicals in the same environment. So it's like a baseline thing. Right. Like, so they've got years and years of data. They're able to compare one guy to the next like all all of its in a similar environment. You creating that for these teams? And then you're like taking some of the guys that they'd most wanna talk to based on their background off the table. Then. You're absolutely prioritizing, your TV show over the function of the combine, and I can look I totally see why NFL teams are upset about this. Because it's like, well, wait a minute. This event is supposed to be for us in. Now, you're running into something else. Like, you're totally devaluing the product itself. Like, I like, I just I side with teams on this. Because I just think that it's more important for those guys to get to know somebody like Jeffrey Simmons to get to know somebody like Jalen, Ferguson who got to fight McDonald's for Christ's sake. Whatever it was like, it's more important for them to get to know those guys than for the league to prevent like the guys on their broadcast from having to talk about them for two and a half minutes, or whatever it is. I understand where the NFL's coming from this. They're essentially saying that we don't want to create a we don't want to give them the stage this platform if you have a serious transgression in the past. I think the problem is like many cases of domestic violence or. Assault or violations of the personal conduct policy things that fall into that realm every case is different. And so there, isn't you have a blanket rule. It doesn't always apply to one case something that happened in high school is not the same as a rape that occurred one year ago or a domestic assault that occurred one year ago. So I think that perhaps each case could be considered individually a little bit more one blanket rule, and many things doesn't always work because every situation is different. I, but I don't have a problem with the general idea behind the rule and understand your point Albert. I do think anyone who's covering the combine should be equipped to talk about these issues. We talk last week about how general manager should I think media, should I think that all is a conversation that we really should be a lot better at at this point in time. But I do understand them saying, you know, I think it was in the wake of several high profile prospects that had an incident in the past. And I think they sort of reacted to that in created this rule. See Jenny the problem. I have with that those the NFL is being disingenuous like this on this like they are with a lot of things, right? Like, so you're hearing a lot now like it's a privilege. Not a right to go to the combine fine. I get that. Let's not pretend. That's why you're keeping those guys from Indianapolis because those guys have been coming Indianapolis forever. You never had like some sort of behavioral standard in the past. It only came up when this thing became a TV product when this thing became a TV product what happens? Well, okay. Like, we don't want to have to talk about these guys on television. I mean, imagine if one of these guys was a quarterback like what would they do? I mean like Jefferson's is a top ten prospect. Right. Like probably like if he had if that the incident hadn't happened in high school. He's probably going in the top ten at the end April. Like if that's a quarterback. Like, what do they do? I just think teams are going to have to work a little bit harder to find out information. If someone has a really agreed incident and are not so rece- in their very recent past than teams just have to work a little bit harder to get that information. They're going to they're going to get that information. Anyway, I they're just saying we're not gonna make it super easy by putting this player on the largest platform. But again, I do think there should be a little bit more discernment. You know, not every situation is the same. And so I don't know that a blanket rule works. But I do kinda understand where they're coming from. And. Yeah, I'm sure part of it is the TV platform. Of course, it would be naive to assume that it wasn't. But I don't also I do also. I think there was a genuine element here of you know, I I don't think we can say that only came from that place. I'm just wondering to just in from the grand scheme of things. I mean, anytime you talked to someone about the combine it's always sort of a complaint from the from the football side. Right. We don't get long enough. The old crotchety scout like anybody, really? It's like, okay. Well, the interviews timed. And so we only get, you know, you only get these guys for fifteen minutes, and, you know, we learn more about them on our on campus visits, or when we're able to Skype with them, you know, during different period of time because that can count as a phone call or you know, we learn more about them by talking to the people who they interact with on a daily basis, which is stuff that you send out scouts to do all year. I mean, these guys should be in these schools measuring these guys. Knowing what their functional play speed is. I mean, what is the forty yard? Dash tell you anymore outside of their linear speed, which they're almost never going to have to utilize on the field. I mean, I think a lot of this stuff is is sort of archaic it sorta in the process itself. So you know, the fact that they're they're fighting over this. It seems a little crazy to me. When teams are teams are going to get the information anyway, and they have to work harder than than other people to get information. I do the reason that is valuable to them as just a data thing. Right. Like, it's like. That's why you heard them bitch about like when they when they moved to the new stadium, whatever it was two thousand eight right because the turf was difference. Oh now, it was like for the first time like they were on a different surface. And so they couldn't compare forty times four times. Whatever like, so I think that that's the biggest part of this Connor is that like over eighty four was the first one right something like that. So they have like data going back like thirty three years thirty four years that like apples to apples comparisons. Like, here's what this guy ran here. Here's what that guy ran there. And then they had the guys in the same environment. And I feel like that the most important thing is always going to be the physical and the interviews. Right. The stuff that we don't see on TV. So like, you get the guys all in the same environment in the interview where like you feel like you've gotten them beaten down a little bit to the point where they can't put on the act anymore. And so you lose that with the players that have had issues how would those guys act in that environment? Like when they're not when. When the coaching failed them a little bit. And they may be themselves a little bit more, you know, the physicals which the league is bending on. Now, that's an important piece of it too. Because everybody's being checked out by the same doctor. So I do think that like the the function of the combine like I do there still value there and that you get apples to apples comparisons. And I just tell you I think these teams feel that these teams need that on guys who have issues both physical. And you know, the the behavioral those the teams need that on these guys more than anyone else. Which is why understand why they're upset about it. Because this is one environment where they get apples to apples comparisons. And that's being taken away from them on guys that are going to be the highest risk guys. They're looking at I get that. But also you have all the time guys who don't run the forty at the combine maybe they're coming off an injury or something. And they only run it at their pro day or you have Sam darnold who doesn't throw at the combine. And he just throws at his pro day. So a lot of times you're not getting that full complement of information. At the combine. Anyway, to me, it just seems another thing to gripe about it. I feel like you're going to get the information. I feel like the NFL I get the inconsistency. Right. You don't have these guys going to the combine for a high school incident the same week that Kareem hunt is being signed. I get that inconsistency. But this is something that's in the NFL's control. I think it's fine teams will be fine. I think that it's a lot of holeable Lou Gilbert's dog. Yes. Are off season. Go host governor. They I've one more pro combine taken one more anti combine taking make them very fast. My pro combine take agree with apples to apples. Then Gil Brandt told me that he went to a pro day. I believe at Texas AM, and this is in the fifties. Where coach was timing the forty are on his fingers. So he was just looking at the guy running and saying one two three like just one sippy tomb, literally one Mississippi. There was a guy that Davis drafted in the second round at Villanova who ran like a four to one. But what he did was right before we start running. He moved the towel up five yards. Right. You know? So all that's all it was it was demoted by towel. So like, I mean, obviously, you can't do that anymore even the pro days or so high tech com. I take those that I love the idea of like, you know, Bucky Brooks. He's tell me he used to go to Kansas state because Bill Snyder wouldn't let them in and dress up as somebody else in hang out in like college bars. I love the idea that you have to do this. This is what the NFL is all about, you know. Not following against their will going out and discovering this information and the people who have the best information wins. I feel like it. I come is the equivalent of of the press conference for. That's actually a fair fair comparison. I like, I got a great. You guys wanna hear a good story. And that like the teams that did their homework on Justin Blackmon. Now, if I remember in the run up to the two thousand twelve or thirteen that he came out that he was the fifth pick. I remember. So he seemed like a pretty clean prospect coming out like most that were a lot of people that didn't have this information on his substance abuse issue. Right. And I remember talking to one team who they like this the scout was really wired, Oklahoma state. And somehow he got information like Justin Justin like really ashamed of his issue. And so his whole so's like like he wouldn't like he had the this problem, but he wouldn't manifest itself on campus. Right because he was a shamed of it. So the the the guy from inside the program told the scout go to this bar. It was like twenty five miles away from Stillwater and just hang out there all day. So he went he he. Went out to this bar twenty five miles away from Stillwater in the middle of nowhere and Oklahoma. And sure enough like an hour or two after he got there. Justin Blackmon walked in. And he saw everything that he needed to see over the next four or five hours and to me it was just like God. These guys really are like these guys are like private investigators. That's what they have to be. You know? Yeah. Yeah. So it's a good example pretty pretty incredible. Okay. Jenny news item number three at a Saturday press conference ex Bronco's quarterback, Tim tebow reveal that he counseled Cuyler Moran. His decision telling the fellow Heisman winner to follow his heart Murray announced last week, he's focusing on football and walking away from a four point six million dollar signing bonus he agreed to as the as first round pick and the twenty teen baseball draft. Wow. Tim tebow getting a lot of pub two things. First of all, I we're giving Tim Tibo a lot of a lot of air time here. We're also giving gun a lot of airtime. I just wanted to use this as a jumping off point to talk about Tyler Murray because I think it's. I think it's fascinating. One point that like how much stupid public advice? This poor kid is getting unsolicited like Sanders has like an hour special on TV. Yeah. Like. It is literally like eighty five percent beyond talking about him. So it's like literally if your business is just like poor collar soon there, the whole time kind of nodding and being like, okay. Okay. All right. I'm watching the af. I got Jenny Jenny find it because it is it is honestly like it is just eight I would say eighty five percents the low estimate Connor Dionne just preaching to this kid. It was terrible. And then, and then we have this where it's like, you know, follow your heart. Okay. Thanks delilah. I mean, this amazing advice, you know, this is like so incredibly the page turning and useful for this poor kid who all he needs all he wants to play football. And it's just not gonna it's gonna be like just six more months of crap for him. And I feel so bad. And this is it's just everybody trying to get their little hands on this. You know, and it just didn't feel so great. So let me ask you this. I've got a kind of a developing take here. I. I. I look I think like like because everyone was like I think we were all little late on Baker. Right. I remember writing I think it was like late December. I wrote like Baker Mayfield is a first round pick, and it and it was like I remember thinking like this is a revelation. Right. Right. Right. And like, I know when I was writing I had no points out. He was gonna be the number one overall pick, you know. And it just turns out that I think we were all sort of maybe teams were to we were all like late on that. Right. Like, and so by the time, John Dorsey will tell you now that he thought in October November he knew an October November that that was his guy. But maybe we were all little late on that might developing take is that maybe there's a little bit of an over correction going on right now where people are jumping over themselves to say Cuyler surefire top-five is a surefire is like Arizona dump Josh rose to to get to Kyle all that might happen. But I feel like there's like an over correction going on right now where like people saw what happened with Baker last year. And now, they don't wanna be behind in talking about Kyle does that make sense. I think this is a good cake, and I agree. And I think that everyone is forgetting that Keiler is significantly shorter than. Both. Russell Wilson Andrew breeze which Baker Mayfield was not. But I think the question Albert is due teams also over correct, do they see the fact that last year, you know, the Browns were all in on Baker. And he was a guy that has really, you know, transformed the hopes in the direction of the franchise. Do they think that Kyle was going to be that guy and over correct in their evaluation of him, which would also push. The question would be like like, we're stretching this the size thing. Like how far is too far? Like how far is too far? Right, right. What what grade? Would you give my take on her? I think it solid. It reminds me of sort of the backstreet boys theory, which you know, of the nineties where it's an over correction, right? The backstreet boys took a lot of people by surprise. And then the resents sink in. So they're like, wow. This is great. But then all of a sudden, we get ninety degrees and then five owed town L Afo. And then at some point you're losing money because you're just afraid of missing out on did ninety degrees. Come after backstreet boys because I definitely saw ninety eight degrees in. Concert before. Was the one Nikola shea cliche. I don't know. I feel like the TV show Connor. But I I think that you're right. That is a good take that there were other boy bands as an example. I just don't know if ninety eight degrees governor there, I don't know. Mine could be off. I just happened to see all of these bands and concert. I'm just thinking that because I was because Nicklaus shit because nickel Shay actually believe it or not my coverage of the NFL actually sort of crossed into that realm when I was covering the Cowboys when Romo was dating Jessica Simpson. And Joe Simpson would send would send would send 'paparazzi out to catch them in different places. And so that was I think post that was just after the nNcholas shea break-up boys formed in nineteen Ninety-three ninety degrees in six three ninety three. I mean that's close to new kids in the box. Yeah. Perhaps they're more formative years. This is Wickham PD. It's all very loosely sourced right now. But. Three people running long on this. Officially off the rails. Okay. News that news number four. According to ESPN patriots tight end, rob gronkowski has been working out at Gillette stadium in the week following in the weeks following New England SuperBowl win gronkowski said. After the game that he'd take a few weeks to decide whether or not he'd return for tenth NFL season. I think rock is working out at the gym at Gillette stadium, probably because convenient and he likes working out. I don't know if there's anything to read into here. I still think that this is gonna come down to two things. Like, I think I it's an first and foremost, it's how he feels like. And I think this year was really tough for him difficult for him to get through. And I don't know that he's one I don't think he's one of these guys we talked about this earlier like the Brady Brady type like what Wes Welker was like we're going to have to literally kick them out of the league, you know, to to get them to stop football. I don't think that's what gronk is. And I know this year was very. Difficult physically on him. So how does he feel say two weeks from now I think that will have an impact on it. And then the other piece is how much money are the patriots willing to pay him. I've been under the impression for the last six months that that ten million dollar cash twelve million dollar cap. Like those numbers like the patriots. We're not gonna go there for them. But they want us to played well in the playoffs. And I mean, maybe maybe the patriots are willing to give him sort of the gold watch and say, we know you're probably not we know you're not this type of player anymore. But based on what you've done for us. And how you've been underpaid appoints your career, we're willing to give it to you. If I'm the team. I do that by the way, like I'm okay like like, look, if if it costs an extra couple of million bucks like let's let them play out of one final year. If that's it here in New England and help transition the next guy in that's something. They would do it. It's interesting. It's anti who they are. And look like if you really want to look at it like at the end of their careers like Troy Brown finish his career with the patriots. But he was playing for peanuts. Tedy Bruschi finishes career what the patriots, but he was playing for peanuts. Most guys who finish their career with the patriots like either take pay cuts aren't making very much money in the to begin with like that's how they wind up finishing their career there. I don't think Rockwood go anywhere else. Like would he be willing to take less? I don't know. I don't know. I just there's a part of me that says like it was such an issue last year. And after everything you went through if they go to an ask them to take a pay cut. He's gonna say the hell with it and walk interesting because maybe just three months ago we were saying that ballot. Check was sort of a head of trying to trade aren't hausky knowing that perhaps this physical decline with coming. And then he obviously felt a little bit better toward the end of the season. And he was really, you know. Huge parts of the game plan. And but it's interesting, right. It's kind of a it's a sort of a stunning turn of events. If they were to give him a lot of money for another year. I say that this is a sharing in one of my least favorite it seems like a canoe developing off season storyline. Like I read in your column. I think Albert in another report that that ally. Manning was working out at the team facility. And now, rob gronkowski's working. And it seems to be like an emergence of a new like off season like thing to read like not too much into. But like it's like a jazz. They still have until. It's a gym say you'll have a membership to like Tom Coughlin was fired him worked out at the giants facility for like eight weeks, Nevada. Was that was that was that was? Yeah. That was weird. That was really weird. Yeah. Like you guys have been in the giants facility. You know, how the gyms like like in case with that glass? Right. Totally be Ben mcadoo walking in like, you're filling this dream becoming NFL head coach the first time and you walk by and there's like Tom Coughlin on the elliptical like every morning beat new in by two hours. He's got two hours before you. He's like worked up a real serious sweat. He's got the towel around his neck just gives you the death. Stairs. You're walking by power move with players. It's like, okay. I mean, that's where they work out. You know? Planet fitness gym in his own basement. That's true. Yeah. That's true. Maybe it is. Maybe it is like you said like, maybe it's just a big power move. It's all it's all power move out of a lot of positioning. Yeah. I just I like, I will say we all we all we all preface it to do not read too much into this. Right. Like, everyone of those reports is always preface with do not read too much into this. Okay. We're gonna say goodbye. 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You get off that this podcast. So I'm not going to delay anymore. Why don't you go and do that right now already there? All right. Thanks, guys. All right with that out of the way. We'll jump right into the six pack. You know, how this works? Every Tuesday normally Monday this week. I put the call out on Twitter for questions you ask. I pick six I answer them. If I answer yours, you also get a like on Twitter that means I hit that little heart button right by your question. All right question. Number one. That's coming from Greg Krieg. That's act. Jay Creagh should jets fans. Trust mcalinden whose track record outside the top ten is bad to trae down versus taking the best player. Vailable at number three. I do think that the jets have done a little bit better the last couple of years Jamal Adams, obviously that's top ten pick. They get Marcus may outside the top ten pretty good player. He's in the second round in two thousand and seventeen last year. Obviously they bring in Sam darnold. They've got a couple of players down the line in eighteen draft class that they like, and so I do think over the last couple of years over the last two years they done a little bit better. They've done better with their free agents with some of their veteran free agents to Tremaine Johnson was a big strikeout, but every Williamson's a pretty good player. So I'd tentatively say just be cautious. You don't wanna get hurt? But I think there is reason to believe that they have turn things around to some degree. And this is the type of draft where you are gonna wanna turn down. What were you are gonna wanna trade down? So if you're the jets you're rooting for the quarterback's to get hot. So you might have to come up and take that third overall pick from you, this is the type of draft again, I think after after Nick Bosa after Quentin Williams and maybe Josh Allen where you're going to say, okay. There's not a huge difference between the fifth pick and the twenty fifth pick. There's not a huge difference between the fifteenth pick and the thirty fifth pick. So there is some merit to the idea of trading as well. And the jets who have plenty of holes to fill question. Number two. This is from Craig Gainsbourg that's at crag Adam g NHL team jumps the giants in the first round to get Dwayne Haskins. I certainly that's a possibility because he's a quarterback. And that's what happens with quarterbacks. And if you wanna look at the draft order, and I'll pull it up right now. The giants. At the front end of teams that actually need a quarterback right now. So the teams that are drafting in the top five you've got the cardinals at number one. You've got the Niners at number two. You've got the jets at number three the raiders number four the bucks number five. None of those teams have a crying need quarterback. Then you get the giants. They do the Jaguars. They do you got the dolphins. I'm sorry. The lines at number eight, they don't the bill's number nine. They don't the Broncos number ten. They could take one. So you've got three teams. They're on the bottom half of the top ten that could take one. The Jaguars could jump the giants. I wouldn't rule the Broncos out, you know, as far as moving up. You know, you look at potentially the dolphins at number thirteen there another team that could move up. And so I would not rule out the idea that a team jumps the giants to go and get Dwayne Hassans. Or maybe somebody like Kyle Murray question number three from Charlie work. That's at mills berry shoe. Or Milbury shoe? Do you see a regression from the Rams this season? Hashtag sakes pack. I don't see huge aggression from the Rams because I believe in Sean McVay, the staff is put together the approach that they're taking. I do think it's going to get more difficult because they've got a number of players who are coming up and Dante thousand free agent Dom consumes a free agent Roger Sappho, a free agent, lamarcus Joyner free agent. So they've got some really good players that are that are going to be free agents that are going to be tough to retain on top of that the cap situation is going to get dice in a year. And you have to start budgeting for that stuff. So you have to make decisions on guys like Jared Goff to extend of now do next year. That's a question they have to answer. And so it's just gonna get trickier now because some of their star players are moving into points career where their cap numbers are gonna rise. That's Donald that's girlie. That's sprinting cooks, and that's eventually going to be Jared Goff. And so it gets trickier. I think it's going to Mandalay dry. Better or they they continue to draft. Well, they've done a good job since McVeigh's been there. And with the general manager Ness less need has done drafting McVeigh's system and finding like really good guys like John Johnson or or Samson epi calm in the in the middle rounds finding those guys Josh Reynolds, Gerald Everett was the second round. But you know, non round pick. They've done a nice job there. They're going to need to continue to do that question. Number four from Steve FitzGerald, that's at Stephen M fits. How does the flacco trade affect foles and others? I actually don't think it hurts them because Denver wasn't necessarily an open quarterback seat for a veteran. So you know, you aren't taking a seat out in this game of musical chairs. Right because Denver had a veteran quarterback. And you know, the guy who's displaced their case keenum. I don't think that he moves in front of Nick foles or. Teddy bridgewater. I don't think may team see him as a viable starting quarterback. And so I think in way, you look at this for fear foles, or your Bridgewater, and you say a seat really wasn't taken from the table. But one of the players that I was competing with to to find the right spot is gone now. And so actually think the way that that went down may help those guys I do think the likelihood still that Nick foles lands, which acts Ville and teddy Bridgewater again to me the one that just seems to make some sense as the Washington Redskins question. Number five. This is from Tofa cana- that's at K on Tofa. Could Antonio Brown be a fit for the Dallas Cowboys the answer to that question is absolutely not? They don't have a first round pick the are already having to take care of a lot of guys young players and their team coming up. Obviously DeMarcus Lawrence is in that group. He is up and he's likely going to be franchise tag over the next two weeks. But beyond just the guy who's up guys going into contract years like Dak Prescott like Zeki. Oh, Elliott like Byron Jones like Amari Cooper. They've got a lot of guys. They've gotta take care of not only do I think in Tonio Browns. Not going there. I think it's going to be tough for them to do much at all as far as Quiring big-name veterans. That means you are Thomas question number six is from Rome Lod Tanaz ski, and I just put your Nina's at Romani thirty three will the patch trade for OB. Jay this off season. I'm going to say the answer to that question is no like I said earlier, I think that there will be star players that will be bandied about and trade talks, maybe bigger names than we're used to because of the state of the free agent market at the position because the state of the draft class position. So I wouldn't be surprised if you hear teams enquiring about Julio teams enquiring about AJ green teams enquiring about OB J. I don't the patriots of the team that goes and gets them because I think that you have to you'd have to change your salary structure to do it New England. What do you go say to? Julia Nedal men, if you're going to bring an OB J at eighteen million per, what do you say to rob gronkowski? If he wants to come back that you've made. Him fight for for for every penny. And now of a sudden you're bringing in a guy from the outside of that price. I just have a hard time seeing how the patriots based on what I know about them would make that work. And we got a bonus question this week. We'll wrap it up with this from Philip DJ. That's at Philip de Jack how is life going in the haunted mansion Connor or I had no idea what Philip was talking about here. So I did consult with Connor before he took off. And here's his answer. He's currently Saging property to ward off all evil spirits. Again. Philip Connor or is currently Saging property to ward off all evil spirits. That'll do for do it for us. 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KD's big game, OBJ/Browns, Clippers > Lakers?, Josh Rosen

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KD's big game, OBJ/Browns, Clippers > Lakers?, Josh Rosen

"You wanna welcome to first things. First we made it to fry on general, Bannon's the hall of fame, Chris Carter that is Nick view. Fantastic. I'd be Good Friday to everybody hit over. Thank you. Yes, I do show this week would Nick, right. And then on Friday vanilla ice show is baby DJ callup. Alad that too. The door is on the star of the family. Anyway, a good look happy holidays to everyone celebrates a big Friday show, the Los Angeles Lakers have a new reason to worry about signing. Another star Ben Simmons boy E bounce back. In a big way. We're gonna start the program off with the Golden State Warriors. As predicted the warriors would not let game to define them when they blew thirty one point lead to the clippers and the loss and as predicted Kevin Durant would not let Patrick Beverley render him useless the way he had done in games. One and two gained three last night. All warriors one thirty two one. Oh, five was your final warriors taking the win. Kevin durant? Thirty eight points and thirty minutes of play after the game. Vintage Katie was asked if he had anything to prove. Thirty two all so nobody nothing at this point. I use aggressive from the start. At both ends attacked. He said yesterday, he's Kevin Durant. And so he showed showed everybody who. Kevin Durant is K over last month. Or so you being you know, pass I have been distributor for the team. That's not true. That's not no pass show just play with an off. And I said, okay. Well, you've been more with distributors. That's to say because I play. Okay. That's what tonight you wasn't right because coach call places so moving forward. Do you think that you'll be a game by game basis far as how you approach the game? This is run show any team I've ever been a part of. I'm just a player wanted guys. You know what I'm saying? So whatever my coach needed me to do. Whether I don't matter what it is. I just gotta go out there and be pair for mentally and physically so tonight, no different. I see how much did Katie need a game. Like last night. I don't think that he needed to game because he's got a tremendous reputation. He's a natural score of the basketball. But it's very very important when you start getting into series that your best players play with now, Katie said, something the press conference that I don't necessarily agree with when he said, I don't have anything to prove internally you have something to prove to yourself. That's why you're out there playing the game. He's a lover of basketball. And he has a problem some time with some of the other things that come with being NBA star. So I thought last night he was going to have a good game. I didn't think that Patrick Beverley could continue, and I didn't think the NBA would allow Patrick Beverley basically to mug them basic hand check and clutch and all the things that Doc Rivers really thrived at in the NBA when he played in a lot bigger than Patrick Beverley, but that was his style. And that's what he teaches in those tactics. Defensively. That's why Kevin part of why? Kevin Durant was upset was because. No one else in the league is being guarded that way unless you're a big guy in the paint. They're going to allow you get away with more things but Patrick Beverley game. One game two they allowed him to play eighties defense on Kevin Durant. It did get into his head. But Steve Kerr did what most good coaches. Do you have to help out your star players? Yeah. There's a lot of basketball. It's one on one. You can clear it out, but they all need help. Steph needs help. All right. Clay needs help in K needed help K D needed help. And what they did for him especially early in the game was they made it. It was a priority for him the post up, but they weren't going to throw the ball directly into the post what they did was put him in the low post put Andrew bogut in the starting lineup. Put him in the low post and had another seven one guy screened for him coming across the lane. So then he got a little bit of space, and you could see once he was getting the ball. He's going to dribble one or two times and get a shot up. That's what. Kevin Durant does. So Steve Kerr did what good coaches? Do you have to still be able to help your star? Players out because most sports they're not one on one battles. You do have one on one battles within the scheme. But give me some help is. Kevin Durant said typically I used to be able to predict when I was going to have a great game based on the game plan based on the philosophy of what the coaches were trying to do. And then last night Steve Kerr helped his star up. We can we should maybe disregard some of the things. Kevin Durant said before the game and after the game because I don't know how accurate they are. But what is accurate is this? Kevin, right. Exactly what he was supposed to do what he needed to do. And what people have watched him for the better part of a almost a decade and a half. Now twelve years knew he could do this wasn't to me. The warriors saying drawing up a very specific unique game plan to this. This was Kevin Durant. Taking shots to the past up in games. One and two this was Kevin Durant. Despite saying I'm not going to go out there and shoot twenty plus times going out there and shooting twenty plus times when he wasn't in question. He's was in quick. Well, he said, I'm not I'm not going to. Thirty times. That's what he said what he was definitely trying to respond to the question that thirty shots is out of question because that's just something that he doesn't do. So I'm not saying Kevin Durant. Didn't do what he was supposed to do. But when the coach comes up with a game plan, if we we were doing the show, and we were like, Nick, we're going to be heavy on Nick right in as and Bs. You would know that you got to build to do and you could see that their game plan last night. And it was not the same as the first two games. Yeah. So the okay, we're gonna disagree on that. Because I Kevin Durant. Had the exact looks that he was passing up and games one and two and he was taking he had those Mitterand's jump shots available to them early in the series. But he did what he's supposed to do credit. He was outstanding. He got two thousand within ninety seconds of the game starting he could've gotten frustrated. He could have gotten mad at the refs. He could one of those foul super questionable credit to curve for leaving him in. And he was great. He was think Kevin Durant that we know exists and that we. No can do this not any night because you can't be efficient every night. But he is a threat on any given night to go for nearly forty like Steph foul. Trouble set picked up his third foul. Midway through the third quarter. Katie stepped up again Steph picked up fouls in the third or through the son, Gordon pickups. Third foul and then third quarter picked up his fourth Katie stepped up. Again, he didn't even have to play in the fourth quarter. He was great. He was the exact guy that Steve Kerr when he gave his press conference saying I didn't Kevin gonna take twenty to thirty shots aggressive. Be more assertive. Exactly what it was. And that's what he was supposed to be. So he can say there was this was just had nothing to do with games one or two. I don't believe that. Kevin Durant is as aware of the commentaries rounding him as anyone in basket basketball. I agree with you on that part. He was sometime great performances or forced out of. Yeah. In his team needed. Boogie cousins is hurt. So they had a couple of days to build a pair. They're putting bogut into the lineup. And if you'd. Look at man, why is this series tied up won the won a lot was because that time that they fell asleep in the second half. But they had to have a tremendous amount of confidence. They have a twenty point lead in game. Number one thirty point lead in game number two. So as we saw last night they had another twenty point lead in the game. So I'm sure they had a lot of confidence. Every team is making the Justice. When you looked at third game of all these series each team is making a what you call a series adjustment in. This was one of the judgements that the warriors made that they're going to go instead of going through Steph going through clay they were going to Katie putting bogut into the lineup. So those are the things to me that were very obvious far as the differences between game one in game two even though Katie end up getting the ball in some of the same spots that he got it in game number one. How he got it. I thought was very different especially early in the warriors never thought they were even going to have to get to the point where they had to. Make adjustments in the first opening round of the playoffs against the clippers. How much of gain to do you think was a wakeup call? If you will for both the warriors and for Kevin Durant, absolutely us. You're starting center, and you Ziga and NBA playoff history. You came out in that first quarter with the playoff intensity, and they did with the warriors of done so often over this five-year run, particularly the last three which is they have shown the ability on both ends of the court. That's important lamp you down. That's what they did defensively in that first quarter. Now, the clippers on a little bit of a run to cut it to seventeen at the end of the first quarter, but they drain on his flying all over the place. Play making bogeyed is in there. All of a sudden looking like the guy who just one MVP Austrailia league Durant was doing it on both ends clay hasn't had a good shooting that yet in this series. But he's playing the warriors instantly became the world destroying force. They wanted to. Be and when katie's hitting those seventeen footers that aren't doing anything, but the bottom of the net. Nets barely moving that when they play like that. Nobody's beaten one thing I've seen with the warriors. And I really respect it the come rotary that they have is a group and even before Katie got there whenever one of their star players when their guys in their core group struggle they go out of their way. When Iggy was struggling. They went out of the way to get him back into a group when Steph was struggling in the finals before before Katie got there, they'd went out of their way to get him into the flow. We have seen with Klay the way he started the season Draymond they have done these things. They did the same thing for Katie last night is to sign of a great team a great organization. One of the things that gets Nick upset is. It's a luxury K D don't have to play like this every night when all the other top five players when they haven't off nine you end up losing, they get criticized, but Katie has the luxury because he's been in Golden State the last three years, I understood. And respect. And I want to say one thing because I'm very critical of Kevin ran for some of the court. What he did last night was spectacular. He was he answered he had scrutiny on him. Unlike he's had at any point this season. The warriors for the first time all year, they weren't in a must win game. This was the highest leverage game. They've played all season the first game that if they lose we'd be like, whoa. And he was the best player on the court by a country mile. He was spectacular from the first moment of the game to the end of the third quarter when he checked out of the game, and they took total control back this year. There is one other athlete who had that pressure on them last night to step up in a big way for their team. And that was Ben Simmons for the Sixers. How was he able to lead his team to victory without Joel Embiid? That's next on I fest one. You can always check us out on the Fox Sports channel on Sirius XM right back ways. Core pool is not a bus ways. Core pool is not a taxi ways. Core pool is not the metro in DC writers ways. Core pool is not a slug line. What is ways carpool and new app that lets neighbors co workers and fellow commuters ride together to work and home fast. Drivers say Hello to that express lane and get reimbursed for gas riders getting affordable commute in help. Save the planet and corporators to know their neighbors and co workers a little bit better and ways core pool is smart. Not only does it match you with people who are going your way it connects you with people who you'd actually wanna ride with C you can commute smarter with no headaches people. If you use ways already, you know, it's built by a community to give you the best traffic pitcher in real time. All the time ways corP functions with the same high quality standards and officiency down though, the ways corP app today to catch a ride or give a ride to work her home ride together with ways carpool. Welcome back. Ben Simmons and the Sixers and just a second. But I I it's demar derozan. Soaring path nickel Yokich for the baseline slam. Niggly Yokich scored on what a shock the Spurs are so impressive, man. What pop does this might make the Western Conference finals their own believable. Derozen average twenty five this year Nick in five. Yeah. I spur in the history since pops been new to ever get those numbers with all those great played acts wild Yam the make sense because because they're they're big name game care jumps in. The passing lane for the steel knees. Don't on the other end Mosul. Impressive guy. You didn't know about coming into the playoffs. It would be him. And when they get to John Murray back that back court is going to be Knicks. They're going to be nice here. We got warriors clippers Kevin Durant nine shea. Gilbert Alexander at the rim. I mean, just both ways. Katie was so good less. I'm sure a few more turnovers would've liked but other than that. He was this was an aide triple plus game for the defensive end. He was like the K the first year. Yup. Golden State trying to prove something moving on nets. And no Joel Embiid in the lineup. No problem. Philly beat the nets in Brooklyn one thirty one one fifteen to take two one series lead. Ben Simmons led the way for Philly. Thirty one points nine SIS on just thirteen shots after the game vindicated. Ben simmons. Try not to pay too much attention, you know, gone on social media in and what people are saying just because people are gonna say what they wanna say. I can't let that affect me on the floor. So I just wanted to my job step on the floor run the point guard position as best. I can we have the pieces to get games to complete games. And I think everybody in organization that was about everybody stepping up, and, you know, following the plan scouting or whatever it is. And just locking in in buying into what we have built in. That foundation. See were at this game last night. You also have been critical event Simmons in the past. This is now the second game he's put together this one pretty dominating. How is able to do it last night able to get to spots? The one thing that I've been most critical about is shooting. But also, the inability to understand I can't shoot this one thing to for a guy to understand compared to a guy thinks he can shoot. So they were forcing Ben Simmons into taking shots that are not his strong suit last night. He shot over three feet away from the bucket. I'm all about that. But he needs to build a get to his spot. And it's not always. In transition as they had talked about before he got some help from the offense of staff at some very good sets for him. But his overall mindset, and I believe that he was he benefited from. Joel Embiid not being in the game. Because from the time I watched a warm-up wash it closely watched the type of shots he took. But once they did the introduction of the starting lineup. He took over he was the he was the vocal leader. He was the most amount should it. And that's not always something that he does. So as a point guard he's still trying to learn the game. And he's going to have to try to find the shot one of these off seasons. But if he's doing a play like that get to spot don't make people make try to be jumped shoot, he's not a jump shooter yet. But you have to be so much on the case as far as I'm going to get in the lane. I'm going to be more physical because when he does that you can see that he special now just imagine if he could shoot from ten feet how much better would he be? If he if he develops a shot he will be a league MVP candidate if not favor it because he does everything else on the court at an a or a plus level. He answered the challenge yesterday without their league MVP candidate Joel and beat this is the second straight game. Now that bin Simmons has been the best player on the court. This is the second straight game for the Sixers where they had to win it you had to win game too. So you don't go down to it home, and you had to find a way to come back and take home court advantage back against his nets team to remove their hope of pulling off an upset, and that hope was increased dramatically when Joel Embiid was a leak scratch. Joel Embiid was announced he was going to be out fifteen minutes before the game. And my pal Jared Dudley. His comments have been they've short we've shorten his quote a bit. He wasn't just shady was throwing at been Simmons. He's said he's excellent in the transition. He's averaging half court, and then he broke down his game more, but in so I don't think Jared Dudley was trying to take a shot even though that's how it was interpreted. But in the half court last night been Simmons was nine of eleven like he was eleven of thirteen only two of those basket. It's came in the fast break, and they needed it. This team has not been good without Joel Embiid going into this game. They were eight and ten this year without him be. They're playing on the road. Think about that. You were at the game. See, I know people expect a lot of Philly fans to be there because it's short trip. Yes. That Brooklyn crowd. They've been waiting for this playoff for this team. And to this process their version of the process to pay off with a home playoff game for five years now, and they got it and Philly from the opening tip took the energy away from them. And that was because of been summit. Find his shot that not that he found a shop. But he found open lanes. He found a way to work with what the nets were giving him. Or did you just happen to string together to good games? Like, a we see more of this Simmons boons gotta build a play this way for them to be a special team. But he's also going need some assistance. He needs JJ ready to be special. And that's what Tobias hairs for him to be special. If they continue to shoot the ball from the three point line. It opens up the lane. So one thing that we can't miss in this been Simmons. He did get the offense started. He was very very aggressive, but he had so much support to bias was outstanding. Jay was amazing. They were saying if they're able to spread the court. That's why it's so important for LeBron to get some shooters because f- I'm going to be in the lane. The only way that lane is going to stay open as if I got shooters outside. So the combination of what they were doing was really really special. You have to be able to give those guys credit, but Ben is a special special athlete. He is not a true point guard. So he still learning on the job. His skill set is set that he should be able to be a dominant player, but I'm not wrong, but he can't shoot. I I'm not I'm not wrong in that in Jared Dudley. This Jared delis problem during too many guys in NBA he can guard. So when you can pick a guy who's the actual star. 'cause Jared Dudley is old non athletic as they come in the NBA can't play above the rim. I'll be surprised if he can barely even dunk the basketball. So Jared Dudley Ken guard, you that is a problem. Jared Dudley out. Their listings been league twelve years in the last few years. He hasn't been on a good player to your eye. He's there because he is one of the smartest players in the league. He's a great veteran for a young team. And Jared again, I don't think it was trying to take a shot, even though it was construed that way. But on been like can he do it? We there's a reason that he won rookie of the year. And then there's a reason that he was the only all star from his draft class or the one. After like, there's a reason that he has been highly productive in this league already through only two two years now to you need him to be more aggressive that was the difference between game one and games two and three he was attacking downhill relentlessly. The other thing that was different in this game without Embiid, and you pointed out before the show see, and I think it's a really good point the way Brett Brown the much-maligned Brown. Use Boba Boba is a giant Bogan is may might be the biggest person in the NBA and the way they. Used him on just these little rub screens. Yup. To just cause a little bit of separation because been is so long fast and conjoint so high you get a little bit of separation. That's when you could see him going going in the rim from seven eight feet out. Bobo was a big part of that in Bogue on. Also, all of a sudden speaking guys who can't shoot Bove on all of a sudden can shoot. Oh, yeah. He's a threat from fifteen feet, which really changes the math for the Sixers. So this was a great win for them there without their best player in a game. They needed to win and their most maligned player was spectacular for the second gives you best player couple of days to rest now they can make the decision game. Number four. Do we rest? Joel Embiid a couple more days, which would be really smart and buy them. I think I think it's on the board. They and for the rest of the series if they wrestling game four and they win they wrestling game five to having fully healthy for the raptor series. All right. Let's take a break NFL schedules. Really this week lot of hype surrounding the Cleveland Browns, and they live to. One coverage begins at three eastern is the pirates hosts the giants and co-develop during the dodgers take on Christian yelich and the brewers can catch at all episodes one. Also, balked sports is just a remarkable story. And a remarkable baseball player. I time now for AT and T wakeup call. That is the truth. Nick, the warriors blew out the clippers last night one thirty two to one oh five Katie led the way with thirty eight C C. Would you make of Kevin Durant tonight? He was special. He was very very aggressive from the beginning. You could see why is one of the most efficient score. I think in this. I twenty five points think dribble. The ball more than four times in any of those buckets amazing by him. I'm glad Steve Kerr helped him out got him a couple of stream screens by bogut. Beverly didn't like fighting through seven footer screen. So great performance by Katie k was obviously the best player on the court last night, and he stepped up in huge moment. And it was despite what I think the warriors would have considered worse case scenario. Yeah. I ne- seconds into the game. He's got to foul and a little ticky tack to where he could have gotten frustrated Kerr to his credit left him and trusted him. He didn't get foul. Trouble from there on out. And he was great. I Philly beat the nets in Brooklyn last night. One thirty one to one fifteen they now take a two one series lead. Ben Simmons led the way with thirty one points nine of SIS on just thirteen shot. C C press were you with Ben Simmons been Simmons was even more impressive than K D because we know. Katie can do he's proven that. It's not as if all man, we got questions about Katie ofensive -ly defensively on the court. No, it's just they're so good it. It's not pulled out of him. Ben Simmons is doing things that proven a lot of people wrong for me. I like the fact that he got to where he can shoot the ball with his right? Our left hand, and that's three feet from the bucket. The coach helped him out with a couple of sets. But he was very aggressive took care of the basketball plate amazing defense. That's that. He took the crowd out of the game in Barclays, five combined steals and blocks to go along with eleven of thirteen thirty one points when they tried to go to hackers Simmons at the end of the game. He knocked down free throws to make sure they couldn't have a comeback and Joel and beat the Sixers all of a sudden, thanks to back to back. Great games. I've been Simmons have taken control back of this series. I moving onto the Spurs. They took a two one series lead with a big win over. The nuggets right behind Derek whites. Thirty six points. Nick, we surprised by this bet on this. And I bet on them to win this series before the series began the nuggets are a great regular season team. That doesn't have a superstar. They're gonna need Jamal Murray to play like he did in the third quarter of two he unfortunately, the other eleven quarters of this series. He hasn't been good at all Yokich is a turnstile on. This is the Spurs are better than them. And Derek Whyte though is a revelation was just be a defender yet another great late draft pick the Spurs seems to have seemed to have discovered and developed Spurs after a disappointing postseason last year Papa this has this group totally under the radar. But Nick, the story is this young player how they found him developed him as defensive specialist now at six four. No, he's a defensive specialist also on offense offense of threat. They've never had a point guard as athletic is him. So it's very encouraging to see twenty ninth pick. Of the draft. Unbelievable. All right. Finally, the NFL draft less than a week away. Now, Dwayne Haskins stock seems to a fall in the last few weeks. There are rumors that his recent decision not to attend the draft. The only one of the top four quarterback prospects doing that is tied to his recent slide on the board Haskins, however, still confident in his potential. Look at that stuff driving crazy. But the biggest thing is controlled I can control and keeping better every day and be a hall of fame quarterback, and what a whole bunch of both. So I mean, whether the paint on me right now and team right now, but I wanna grow and keep getting better now necessarily worried about what guys guys behind because I'm gonna be one of the best. So that's all focus on right now. Does something like this happen week before the draft. How does a guy like Dwayne Hassans? How does this stuck just drop for one of those no science to the draft? There is no exact way to doing it. There is no machine. There is no person that can look inside of a kid and wonder on this next step because we know when they went from college from high school to college they made this stem, but there's only a few that can really make this next step. I tell kids all the time. Parents all the time the draft is about lane assignments. So we're gonna run the two hundred meters. The guys raft in the first round in lane four and five they got the best chance to be successful. But you still gotta run the race. And you can be drafted like myself in the fourth round and still beat them to Tate. So don't get caught up in the draft. There is no science to it. Why did Rogers fall in the draft? Why the Dan Marino fall in the draft year after year after year, we have all these experts in everything that they say, they're experts they might be in a certain area. But no one beside. Is Mel kiper is an expert at the draft and even male Kuyper MRs. So no, I'm not not surprised by the rumors of him falling every year. This stuff starts to happen. You know, what happened last year? There was a quarterback that supposedly was the third of four frame, and then he ascended and they were right about it and his name was Baker Mayfield. So every year we go through this when they declare for the draft. It's tear down season. Let me tell you what these guys cannot do if there's a quarterback that had had the same season as Wayne Haskins. And I wonder where they've been drafted the kid West Virginia the kid at Missouri. If all these kids, which which supposedly might pass him in this la- last draft as far as evaluation imagine. If they had had the season that he had and Dwayne has had the season during his wouldn't be drafted in the first two, right? So let's let's just show everybody what the four potential first round quarterbacks. Their last season. College football looked like Cuyler we things going to be the number one pick. So don't worry about him. Look at Haskins compared to those other two guys Haskins is incredibly similar to someone on that screen guy that supposed to be the number one pick those other. If you all of a sudden gave drew lock Haskins numbers, and has drew locks numbers to your point. See nobody's on Dwayne Haskins is a first round pick sixty three percent completions. Twenty eight touchdowns thirty five hundred yards. Who's at seventy percent. He threw fifty touchdowns in the big ten. Dwayne Askins is actually plummeting on draft boards. I want to be very clear about this. It will be. Because of one of three things were combination of three things these reports. Either lies he's not plummeting. And people are just saying it in competent, people don't know what they're doing or prejudice. Because he's a he's a big black quarterback and people at he's not the prototype. And you can say we've come a long way, we have come a long way. You don't gotta go to candidate anymore. But there is there is no chance. None whatsoever. In my mind that a quarterback with Dwayne Hoskins numbers career arc what he did in high school. What he did when he filled in spot duty as a redshirt freshman at Ohio State coming in saving the day of the Michigan game. And then setting every not just state record big ten record wins at the level that he does would all of a sudden the kid from Duke is out of him. Drew lock it Missouri might be end of him. It's I refuse to believe it. I think it's got to be smokescreen that Dwayne Haskins is not going to be. He could have been the number one pick of the draft. Now, the summer saying he might be there thirteen well, you have to believe that maybe. Giants or spreading some of this. They'd love him to be available at six let the world thing. Maybe stock is dropping its misinformation you'd like to believe that it's something like that. So that he is available to them down there. No. He's looking a lot to do with the draft. I would have more respect if people said something to defect of, you know, something I don't like is throwing motion. You know, something out him. I wish it was a skillset all his interviews. Because I know I know type of football. I know how state changed their offense in Ryan day, the head coach there, his background is more improv football of recent years than is in college football. So I know he was taught professional football concepts. I know he can read defense's. I know he's a great leader. I know it comes from a good family. I know he was success with the highest level. Look at the top defense that he face compared to these other quarterbacks. No one even top Murray can't compare to him as far as who face more, tough schedule and more tough top defy. Fences, it would be Haskins. So for me a lot of this. I don't get caught up in it. Because I know just like Russell Wilson. What round go in third round? Was there a better quarterback taken in that draft then him so they miss all the time. If twain Haskins is selected after drew locker Daniel Jones, then I will do. So then the question I will ask is simply how much does college football actually matter for where you're taking a quarterback, right? Like how much or should some of these guys just say, I'm gonna go to classes and just work out? And then while people at interviews and at the combine because you the games were played we saw it when we were done with the college football season. The question was will Haskins win the Heisman is he the most obvious prototypical dropback we've seen it happened. Dozens of times in the NFL this guy be successful. Now a kid that at a mediocre year. Duke is projected to go ahead of him. It'd be I don't wanna believe it. I can't believe Tom. Russell wilson. Aaron Rodgers three guys who obviously dropped in turn with respect. None of those guys had a season in college against it. Yeah. All right. Let's move on to the Cleveland Browns now excitement for the twenty nine thousand nine hundred thousand seems to be at an all time high Cleveland has four primetime games this season in large part due to stars. Like Baker Mayfield Odell Beckham in even larger part due to their endless potential. However, their general manager John Dorsey said it's important for the team to stay grounded. That's what it is. Football's played in the fall of the last I've seen that you got to go to training camp. And you got to earn the respect that everybody's talking about. And how do you do that? You're fifty three guys with the single mindset in the collectivism of driving this thing forward. And that's where it is games. A one lost in the fall. And that's that's how you're gonna protest thing. I mean, I've always lived a mantra one annot, you know, it's one game at a time, and you have to live that. And see see this has been the question all season long, as they've bolstered this Cleveland team will be able to live up to the hype of the Baker and Odal and the way they've really sort of made this into playoff contending team. Do you think they can if I was analyzing Cleveland, and we're the organization was just on the mere fact of just some few things that I see at Baker Mayfield was coming back for a second year with the same team. But I think Cleveland would be vastly improved. I've been like, yes. If what about Freddie kitchens, do they? Okay. Did they bring him back? No matter of fact, they're gonna give him a promotion. He's gonna run the host show after calling the offense for the most part of lassie's. I've been like, okay. I'm willing to give him that chance. All right. What about the other players that they've ad? They get Kareem hunt. Back after eight games with Cleveland. Be better now with two running backs that could potentially rushed for a thousand. Yeah. I I think they would be better Livia Vernon traded for him. From the giants owe someone opposite. Of one of the young premier rushers in pro football. Oh, I think that they would be Sheldon Richardson. They don't have a defensive tackle, especially someone that can rush the passer. Sheldon Richardson coming over. Oh, I think the Browns would be better Dmitri's hairs coming over from Kansas City. Really good tied in spot duty type of guy. Oh, I think the Browns would be better. And then the cherry on the top they happen to the kid with the blonde hair. So this is not all hype. I understand what Dorsey saying endorsed. He's trying to fight this. So when shop, yes, he's doing his job and Odal Beckham is in the mind frame where he's going to have a great year. He's grown up a awful lot. Not only last year. But in the last couple years, not because of the trade, he realized the trade is his reality. He realized Cleveland's is home, and he's gonna make it work out there. So for me, it's not height any team. That was in the position Cleveland was in I- valuate. Do I think they're going to be better based on what they kept the continent? Pretty and then what they add it compared to what they lost the Cleveland Browns were a good football team at the end of the season. And they added not one great player, but they add it several good football players that really fit some holes that they have you, and I are in total lockstep on this. Let's just for ten for a moment. The Browns had not added all pro Kareem hunt pro bowler, Sheldon Richardson, pro bowler, Laverne, an all pro del back. Let's pretend those guys never came on the team. What you have a team is what you have is a team with a young quarterback who the second half of the year was by every metric one of the best quarterbacks in football team that went five and to close the season Martine that over the second half in football had the number one yards per play offense and football the number one red zone, offense and football on the other side of the ball. You have a future. Fifteen sec not ten sec fifteen sat guy and Myles Garrett. And a guy Denzel ward as a corner that could have won defensive rookie of the year. The most important spots on defense. You have players that are only going to get better who are blue chippers if they had not added Odell not added to goad front seven not added cream on guess what? I think well Baker is going to be better. They're not gonna have the clown show that was whatever's going on between Hugh and my pal Todd Haley, this is a team that should win at least nine if not ten games you then add the most Townsend receiver in the league an elite pass rusher. A D tackle and a guy that won the rushing title his rookie year. Add all that. It's of course, it's hype in this regard. We haven't seen him play a game yet. Right. So everything's prognostication. Everything is you've got to show it to me. I but the Browns would have been a sexy pick to make the playoffs if they had stood Pat this off season. Yes. Much less. Have what I would argue is the most aggressive most successful. If you can have it off season anybody ad. I think yes on paper they are team. And if they live up to their billing they can. Be very successful team you'd have to intubate they're being pitfalls with these guys. They haven't played really together yet with all their faces and with a new head coach. What are the challenges that our li- had for them is overall sacrifice ofensive, you only have one football defensively? There's not as many sacrifice that guys have to make. There might be some defensive tackles guys that have to hold more for the run blockers or linebackers can run free. So that a big time Saqer like Myles Garrett can come off the edge but more the sacrifices on offense aside. So this off season becomes very very important that they have realistic goals. Odell Beckham shouldn't be going for a career high as far as catches and yards and things because that might not happen. But he can still be the best player that we've seen in a very very young young career opposite Jarvis Landry and some of the other weapons that they do have Kareem hunt. When he gets back on the field. He will be hungry. He's from Cleveland the incident he was involved in was in. Cleveland? So he's got a lot to build approve in that community. And I just believe that Baker Mayfield is a special special cat, not only as far as football player as far as being a leader and him and Odell has already started that bonding. Oh, they'll in the season. You're not gonna have any questions as far as his buy in to what they're doing. So yes, they're going to have a little bit of slow. But the reason why believe in them is because how they faced against Baltimore last year twice and what they faced in Pittsburg now. Pittsburgh don't have all those weapons, and we know Lamar Jackson in Baltimore is challenged offensively. So to me, this is not height. They should be the favorite based on what's going on in Baltimore, and what happened to Pittsburgh signing wait a little bit. I got my OB j jersey common up is vindicated after a monster game. Kevin durant? The warriors head on. I. Is here to have. To be back at doing. Take that. Let's talk some basketball Friday man's. All teams the lake livers expect to be major players in free agency this summer while the Lakers have LeBron is a major selling tool, according to one agent, the clippers actually have more. He added the clippers of stuff that sets them apart from the Lakers, continuity, cohesiveness, they have an owner who will do whatever it takes. It's possible. They have a nice blend of young basketball talent with guys who are role players excelling in thriving in the roles if you're a star and you come in. They already have guys who know the roles in other situations, you try to bring enroll players and have to deal with role allocation and injustice, I think any star would be a seamless fit with the clippers. Art, Stephen I'll start with you or the clippers actually a better free agent destination than the Lakers better. I mean, they don't have the Bron James. That's not better. More opportunity. I say, you know, you can get more guys you can you can create more of a better team there and have more control was going on that will LeBron's going into situation where you have a star. They're already the biggest Arna game. And he's already building some. So you have to come be a part of winning. He's building you go to the clippers. You can start from scratch. You know, you got to coach you don't have a star there. So you can go there and be the star and start building from you is the greatest waste a lot of free agents. You know to go there because they have the money. They got a great coach. Like, I said there on on the way up we're making the playoffs this year. So a lot of a lot of pluses to go there, but not big in LA. We'll so I won't people to understand because even reference it they're gonna have max spot. They're going to be able to bring in one free agent. They may be theoretically possibly could bring into if they do it the right way. But as because as it is right now what goes along with that is the team. We're seeing right now on the court today. A lot of those guys are going next year. Right. Yes. So Patrick Beverley cleared. It is is an. Unrestricted free agent a lot of the lot of the continuity that we're talking about they have these guys that's going to change. Now. Lou Williams is under contract a great contract eight million dollars a year. So he'll be there and Danilo Gallinari. He makes twenty two million. He'll be there. And they've got Trez who is a great player. They have him locked in. So you have the pieces there. Right. But even though they're in the playoffs this year. What Stephen said is totally correct. Do you want to go to a team and build something or do you want to go to a team and instantly compete for a championship? That's me, the two biggest differences between the Lakers and clippers if quite Leonard goes, the clippers they are excellent, and they are building towards it. But quite Leonard, plus Lou Williams and Danilo Gallinari in my eyes is not a championship contender might not be a playoff team in the west. Well, I think I would disagree with that. But fair enough if the quiet Leonard, plus LeBron you're a championship contender instantly. Now, some guys might say, I'd rather I don't mind being a championship contender. Her for year. We'll bring someone else in and when we are contender. It will be because of me and what I built here. So I'm not that's not necessarily a negative, but the clippers are not a player away from competing for a title as long as you have LeBron James on your team. You're always one superstar away from competing for title on superstar way because it was on the board the last couple of weeks. It could be a Kemba might not be star starting off. I would call Kimba Kimber better. But would it be would the Lakers still be your choice? Even though they are franchise mired in dysfunction right now as opposed to going to a franchise. I mean, if you didn't wanna you're blind reveals naked, and you had both resumes. And you didn't see which team was which you know, the record the head coach the young core the shooters and you unveiled it. It would probably be the clippers would be the team with us. This is the thing this generation of basketball players. They didn't grow up in an era where the Lakers champions dominant. They didn't have Dr bus going out acquiring guys and how they used to take care of the Lakers and. A lot of people in NBA, man. They used to take less money to come join the Lakers. That's how they've been able to do this for so long. So for the clippers to be in the conversation for the posed the question it lets you know, how far the clippers have come. Because when you look from organizational standpoint, I think the clippers are in a better situation. Steve bommer, man, he got second most money, right right right under God. He got a bunch of money can Jenny buses running the Lakers from a who's gonna run basketball operation. How Doc Rivers lost control? Now. They're a better organization Jerry West as a senior adviser. Yeah, they don't have LeBron. But they got some major chips that would even at let us have this conversation Lakers fan base, very very fickle leaning towards Koby Bryant, that's one of the only things the weather sunshine, the people the stars. Everything else is exactly the same. The problem in free agency. As we got a couple of guys that are introverts by nature. Kyrie Irving, Katie Kawai. Why why would they go to the Lakers with LeBron? So the clippers seem far more appealing right now in also you gotta judge the personality of the guy's going to be selected STI I think whatever coast legs aside. Highs will have a lot to do it two right now. A lot of phrases don't know who they gonna play for some guys have a relationship. Doc rivers. Doc Rivers one of those guys when you play against them. If you see nine ten times opponent teammates, go shake his hand. Because so many guys respect they he's a player. They know he wants to win so DACA. Have a lot to do with what players go, but the legs not having a coach data kinda hold up what they got going on. And they're gonna get a coach, obviously. But whatever coats they get it's not going to be Doc Rivers. Right. We know that that there's an title allot people seem to like Monty Williams. None of them are Docker because they're not that they don't have the long jetty the track record the longevity. The relationships that doc has they have. The respect though, money Williams has the respect of championship. Nestle lot in the game. Absolutely Lewis championship just like rivers does. But I think Doc Rivers is almost universally considered one of the best coaches in the league to your point on the blind reveal part of it. If we did that the leagues have a lot of question marks. And we have to see what's going to fill in those question marks. Because before agency opens they will have a coach who is it. I thought something really interesting happened Colin coward and Sam amick both seem to be reporting yesterday. Something similar which is that the Lakers are in hot pursuit of a high level team. President Colin said he that he's heard it's in place. Simple. Wait for the playoffs me over Sam said that they have a guy who's currently coaching a playoff not coaching. I'm sorry in Wigan playoff team part of the front off art of the office is that Masai usury. And is that help you get quite that RC? Buford. Is that Sam presi prestige, the one that I find most likely? Because press t might be feeling like an okay see things have reached, you know, waters reached its level to degree. But so if they actually get a team present not two rival Jerry West, but to give them some credibility that changes thing also watch for the general manager of Toronto if he decides to come is going to be a package deal. So just just watch for that. 'cause I know Kawais very very happy and comfortable with everything that's going on in Toronto. And if he would happen to lead. Why wouldn't he be packaging the the prime free agent and bringing him? Yes. The day. Magic quit the day after on this show. I started saying massage series name. I won't be very clear. It's not because I had some report some insights, and it was because it made too much sense for a guy who has does as GM does like the spotlight. He loves those little press conferences, they do and drastic park. Carson getting fined going Dallaire and all the things they've done for qui- Masais, the one that put them in place. The size on the traded for messiah one that's been massaging that relationship. So that to me would be because of the quite connection share the home run for the Lakers. I wonder if he or Sam prestige someone else are the are the team president that Sam is going to be nobody from San Antonio. I tell you that our Seaview for president San Antonio guys. I'm the go for that. Okay. All quiet as far as that part of it. Sure. We'll see a little bit later on the show coming up with the cardinals. Making a mistake by raiding quarterback. Josh rosen. Immutable things aren't going. Well, you shouldn't do that. We're going viral. Ben Simmons went off for thirty one points when eleven of thirteen from the field and the Sixers game three win over the nets last night, which had Brooklyn fans eating a little crow before the game. A netspend posted this missing Ben Simmons jump shot poster outside Barclays this same. Have you seen his jumper identifying characteristics? It says just average last seen drinking in Orlando that due to a now disputed report. Yes. And he missed a game against the magic because he was so hung over. Please contacted the bottom. It says kindle generate resumes allow. Resumes allow man kindling seeing any her problem. And then the reward say you look that was that's the entirety of his rookie contract. Yes. We'll Ben Simmons made an eat net last night. 'cause like you didn't gain too. He was spectacular. But that's well done. It was right outside. Barclays. I think I saw Chris Carter post in those up. Has been higher because he's taller back to the NFL. Now cardinals quarterback. Josh Rosen has found himself in an awkward position with many speculating he'll be replaced and or traded when Arizona most likely selects Cuyler Murray. Number one overall Rosen here's the rumors reads, the papers and gets that the situation while awkward is out of his hands. I think the season probably went as poorly capacity go, but within that had an unbelievable time. I think people talk about like, you can't listen to criticism or don't ever read articles like you have to be aware of what's going on to a certain extent. So like, I definitely understand the situation. I mean, it's annoying. But like it is what it is football's a business, and I I definitely respect the higher ups and their decisions. I think the best advice ever in life from Sony different. People is is control you can control and whatever decisions are made. It's my duty to prove them. Right. If they keep me improve them wrong with a me on. I see this question we've been asking for the last couple of weeks with the cardinals be giving up on Josh Rosen too soon if they draft Kyla Murray did they see enough from him last year to say, no, this is not our guy. This is the thing. Jenna. It's a perfect storm. Because if the coach if they're going to support the coach the way in the press conference to owner talked about because he talked about cliff Kingsbury the type of offense ity ran the type of excitement the degenerated in the stadium at the college team that he was coaching them if he's trying to do that. Then he's got to build give him the right? First time coaching NFL to get his quarterback. And I don't believe Josh Rosen is quarterback. So I believe both them can be right. I do believe they can be given up one. Josh Rosen too soon, but Kingsbury his is his choice. This is first gig. And if I'm more confident with one guy, I'm going to take that guy. And that's what's going to happen AirAsia. They're trying to do the best job. They can as far as manager. The situation. But there is a reason why euro-zone has lost for a long time. I mean, there's a reason why they have so many double digit loss seasons. There's a reason why number of prominent I'm talking about guys the best position have gone there and didn't have the type of playoff success that they should have had in their career this because they made a bunch of mistakes not last year not five years ago over the last thirty years they've gotten it, right? Once in the last thirty years, and when they got lucky on Kurt Warner. Kurt Warner looked like he was done. He would Kurt Warner with the giants was train wreck. The cardinals took a flyer on him. Kurt Warner resurrected his career. And all of a sudden, all that talent, you're talking about could shy. Yep. All of a sudden own my God, we knew Larry FitzGerald was good. But one of the greatest playoff runs we've ever seen from any player like they had it right briefly. But it hasn't just been the quarterback mismanagement, but outside of Kurt Warner. They haven't had. Solid or above average quarterback play really anytime before or after him in recent fell history now on Rosen. I thought the last quote we heard from him. There was great. And I give them credit for it where he said if they keep you prove them, right? If they tried to prove them wrong that has to be as mentality. And I think they are going to trade him. I think he will. I prove him wrong as tough because that is then tied to how good Tyler's because even rose and goes on to become a Pro Bowl or somewhere else. If collars star that nobody's going to think they got it wrong at no one's going to criticize them for. Right. And that's the way that I think Steve kind and the people in that building would be justifying this. It's not that we were wrong about Rosen. It's that there is they believe generational talent. In Cuyler, a special player that we've never seen at least his measurable 's in the NFL and we hired a guy as our head coach who just got fired at his own. Al-madhur for one reason one reason only did we hire. Because we think he plus the exact right quarterback can be special. So why would we hire cliff Kingsbury who's going to be an offense coordinator in college? If we're not going to give him the best tool for his specific toolbox, which is a quarterback that fits exactly what he wants to do. That's why ever since they hired Kingsbury. You have seen this team tied to Cuyler. I don't think it's an indictment on Rosen. I think it's about what Cuyler would they believe would be under king. I can't agree with you on that. Because he showed enough bad football. That would allow the Cuyler thing to continue because if the organization had seen that man, he was a difference maker. He's a force multiplier. They can convince Kingsbury Bill to do that. But I think that they saw enough as far as when he was in the pocket, not good. When anyone was around him when he couldn't step in throw not very good. So if there was some question marks last year what he end up doing. Or not doing it end up to man, I need to be able to look at this. Because if Josh had shown me some traits that I thought were really special, you know, what I would do I would hide Kyla Marie up as if I was getting ready take him and I shipped him off for a bunch of draft picks. But they can't do that. Because Rosen men last I had question marks before they drafted him. And last year. What I saw specially when he had pressure in his face man heat. It looked like the type of guy that I thought was going to be that difference makers opposite, then shouldn't they should sure pumping up. Josh Rosen right now as if he didn't have a bad year. So they could least they're going to get rid of. I mean to me there's no real way to do that. Because you only be trading Rosen. He'd only be on the market if you're taking a quarterback number one overall. If you take a quarterback number one overall, you're definitely trading him. You can't there's and you can't trick people about what's on tape and on tape. He wasn't very good last year. In fact, he was really bad. Now, I would argue with what has been great. As the league's worst offensive line was great. It has one of the league's worth rushing attacks. Darnold would have been much better. I don't think John challen would have been better. Baker might have been Baker seem to be a head above everyone else and his class. I think Josh Rosen going to be a good quarterback in this league. I do not think it's going to be all you need to go back to the draft. All right. That's what Josh Rosen is about right now, regardless of what football people saw on film across what people saw as far as him Bill to do if you like Josh Rosen like Nick did before the draft right now, you'll make an excuse for him. Did you still believe this going to happen? Because you believe he didn't have enough time. If you had question marks about Josh which I did before to draft. And then you saw him in man, he was a deer in headlights a lot of times in Arizona. Now, I gotta know football film that really makes my opinion seem like I know what I'm talking about. So go back to the draft. If you like before the draft, you all man, let's be more patient. If you had question marks before the draft. You're sitting back saying, hey, man, let's go with Tyler. Thank you for listening to the first things first podcast. Remember, leave us a review and tell us what you think subscribe to the podcast on apple podcasts and catch us on f s one Monday through Friday, six thirty AM Easter for Chris Carter, Nick, right? I'm Jenna Wolfe so long everybody.

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Dwayne Haskins 360

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

51:03 min | 1 year ago

Dwayne Haskins 360

"Hey, everybody. It's Daniel Jeremiah for move the sticks, and I'm Bucky Brooks. And this is the Wayne has three six tosses on a right angle. Poor a lot. Zone with. Talk about that could have been thrown any better. What? So much down. What Baltimore by Dwayne asking? Buck for those that don't know. Let's explain what the three sixty podcast series is all about this is an entire podcast dedicated to quarterback prospect, Wayne Haskins, we break down his game potential and NFL team fist interview. Some of his coaches who know him best including his high school coach buckeyes head coach Ryan day teammates of his at Ohio State a mentor. He is who happens to have played in a couple of pro bowls. And of course, we interview Haskins himself. But before we get to all of those interviews. Let's get our Pinon out there on the player Duane Haskins in the mix potentially be the first quarterback taken. It's been a little bit of a battle there between him and Kyle Murray. We'll see how that all shakes out. But just as a player buck. Let's talk. Let's go generic here floor and ceiling. What what do you what do you view for Haskins future in the NFL? I think he can be a perennial. Pro. I think he is the quarterback that is played successfully in the league for the last thirty years. I think he has tremendous. Arm talent. He does a great job of making throws with touch timing. Anticipation. I think he's excellent leader smart when it comes to on the board with his IQ. And so really when I look at him. He is kind of the classic franchise quarterback that teams have coveted. So I think it ceiling is really high and terms of being able to play at a Pro Bowl level. But at his worst, I would expect them to be just a solid started to kind of leases team manages an offense wins a ton of games. Yeah. You know? I look at it and buck I think he's a little bit dependent on what's in front of him. I think somebody's gonna need some protection like every quarterback wants to be protected, but he's not someone who's going to be able to create and move around and make things happen. He's under a lot of duress. So somebody I think you're gonna get an involve with a good good tight end some play action and be able to protect him with a clean pocket and he can accurately distribute the football all over the field. I in terms of the the ceiling for me. I don't know that I put him in that in that Pro Bowl category. I put him I think he's going to be a solid starter. Now, the diff. Is I don't think the floor is very is very low. I think he's somebody what the higher floor maybe a little bit lower ceiling for me. I think he's going to be a dependable starting quarterback. That's what I believe twain Haskins is going to be at the next level. Yeah. I mean, I can see that. I think he's going to be definitely a solid starter. In fact, when I compare them I kind of compare them to Carson Palmer when it costs empowerment interleague when you look at what he was able to do a Cincinnati. I wanna see you went to a Pro Bowl there. Restarted his career after going Oakland and found his way in areas on found the right coast to put them into right offense, played another Pro Bowl level in Arizona. I think Wayne Haskins is debt surly some of it is dependent upon scheme. Did he plays in and what he has around him? But I certainly believed that he has all the talent to be one of those upper echelon starting quarterbacks. Yeah. No, it's going to be a fun player to watch as he goes through this process finish up and land with the team one thing. I know is you get out there and watch this this guy warm up in throw out there. That's why he want the ball to look like he throws a beautiful ball. And it looks nice on tape as we both had a chance to see him up close. And in person. It's impressive. The way can really spend the football. He's a talented talented thrower. Yes, super talented. And I think that's what you want like. We go back, and we look at the guys that have play successfully into league's Gazzetta talented throwers at able to work from the pocket. I believe Wayne Haskins has the right stuff to be able to work effectively from the pocket for locked up. All right. Let's get into some of these interviews. We've talked to people all around Wayne Haskins that know him best to try and paint, a real clear picture of what Duane Haskins is not only as a player, but as a person and the first person we're going to talk to is Dwayne Haskins highschool coach from the bolles school in Potomac, Maryland, Pat Salenko. Coach how you doing? I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on today. Coach elected to deep dive here on the three sixty series with with people that know these guys. Well, can you can you tell us the first time you met Dwayne in your first interaction with them? You know, I met to Wayne in the summer right before freshman year two thousand twelve he came down from New Jersey throw with some of our receivers and just in all Mace. The way the ball jumped off his hayme was just absolutely amazing for a freshman in high school. You know? You know, it incredible arm strength, and the balls was just unbelievable. What was his size like as a freshman? What was he like back? Then. He he was still growing. So he was only about five ten still had what I call a little bit of the baby fat on every year kept growing and growing and growing ended up leaving areas about six two, and I think he continue to grow. Once. He was at Ohio State coach give us an example, personality wise, just getting a normal little bit better. What's a story? Maybe you could share with us about his leadership style is personality just something from your time together, you know, he's a very humble kid. And on the first day that I met him. He came in and said, I'm a distributor. I wanna make everybody better. It's not about me. It's about everybody else. And you don't get that advocate, especially, you know, in ninth grade, who you know, has an extreme talent. What about him mentally coach? I've heard a lot of people rave about him and Ohio State talk about how quickly is able to digest their playbook, and you can really see it on tape. When you study them. Just how smart he is. How do you do acclimating at a young age coming out of junior high? How did he adapt to your offense? They're in high school. You know, Dwayne is a workaholic. He would come in every day study hall meet with me for forty five minutes on his own. And he would know what every person on the play was doing every play, you know, he just loves football. He, you know, he's at eight straight a student here, you know, had tons of options, and you know, besides school. You know, it's really football coach any other sports that he played in high school we have to spoil requirement. I know he did yoga his senior year. Oh, hold on. Hold on tell me about this. That's an option. You can take yoga. Yeah. Yoga's that what sport at our school? So he took yoga's senior year. Actually, I remember what so higher state was recruiting on. They went and watch tail do yoga. So I'm sure that was nice saw stress for leaks for everybody in that room. Having though is they go to staff in that. That is fantastic. Coach one of the knocks on Dwayne or people trying to say, we know he does. Well, he can spend it. He's ready. He's smart. He's got football character. But he doesn't run around a lot. He's not super mobile when you look at them as a football player starting with him all the way back in high school. How would you evaluate them? He can rod. I mean, he I think he showed that verse Maryland once he had to Ron who was the end of the game. He ran you look at his junior year versus Michigan when they play man he knows the skate. He can do it. It's just not you know, he does a ball. So. Well, why would you have run the ball if he can throw it? Well, that's that's a great way to look at it. There. We appreciate that. Is there any particular game in high school that jumps out to you? Maybe a moment of memory. There's. A rivalry game. A big game. Or just one instance where he really rose to the occasion. Like we saw at the end of his collegiate career. Yeah. You know, he his senior years last game for tie the championship. We actually beat Georgetown prep, and he got hurt in the first quarter one of those gall, you know, run plays that we didn't call off in. But we said it's his last game. Let them run a little bit. He twisted. His ankle was out the rest of the first half and Georgetown prep took the lead and went up by four with a ninety one seconds left. Joining the ball went seventy five yards on six past plays in. It was just unbelievable Byron left, which is how bone around a one leg in my brain surgeon. I my call out pass to the right? He stands in the pocket goes a laser on a fifteen yard out. All that is big time. I love that. How about some other adversity? You talk about being injured and fighting through that any other adversity you. Remember, I know in the evaluate. Process. We always look to see how these guys deal with failure in any our life. But has been any adversity that Dwayne has had to kind of power through. You know, what he had a game is senior year. You know, he didn't perform very well. ESPN was here, and they had a mic up in that, you know, came out through couple interceptions right off the get go. I took him out of the name. He, of course, he was begging. You know, he didn't go sit on the bench and pal his begging to get back in the game begging to get back in the game. A put him back in with the fifty one seconds left in the first half e three passes at twenty two seconds of school when eighty seven yards or soften. It was incredible. Every pass was right on the money. So I won't see hit with adversity. I think it actually propel to not winning the Heisman. Again. I think that's going to propel hill, you know, people saying, you know, he can't do this. He can't do that. You know, Michigan's the best defense in the NCAA, and he just torch them, absolutely. The end of the season was quite the closing statement. How about personality wise? What's he like, he he's a he again, I salt about a little bit is very humble kid. And you know, he wants to make the people around him better. Again, you know, he would not lead the practice field until he liked the way the ball was coming out of his hands on certain routes. I remember one specific practice on the comeback. He probably made those guys Ron for forty five minutes after practice. Then after that he left to go down to an indoor facility to throw with guys in the area that were all signed division one and same thing spring break last year. I know he's down in Miami was his quarterback coach, you know, throwing with you know, NFL receivers and again he wants to make everybody better. He he loves football. Did you have any conversation with him during the time that he's read shooting there? Maybe we sit behind J T Barrett. I know he had to wait his turn a little bit there. It'll Hieaux state. How was how was his mental state going through that period of time? You know, I talked to you know, almost weekly. He you know, he wanted to play obviously. But he understood you know, I know he played the shy watts to one year. Year, and he was excited about that. But at the end the day, you know, it worked out great for him. He didn't take as many hits he showed what he could do throughout all full season. And you know, I know he wanted to get on the field. Same thing. Like he wanted to play for national championship this year. But you know, things didn't work out that way and J T was great quarterback in a four year starter, and he knew that going into a high of St. last thing for coach let you go. I think it speak to the NFL general managers and head coaches out there, how to give your closing argument. What are they going to get if they draft Wayne Haskins? Going to get an incredible passer who's, you know, very, very smart and makes people around him better. And that's the key thing. He makes those guys around him better. Buck. It's always great. We get a chance to talk to those high school coaches. I mean, I feel like they get a chance to to really be around these young guys as they're maturing and developing is not only just players, but is is young men. Yeah. I mean, those guys know them best, and they kind of set the foundation for where they will eventually become. And so I think it's interesting what do Wayne Haskins was able to overcome doing his high school time. And the fact that he kinda set him up to have success at the next level. Speaking of next level you in a Kabbalah had a chance to speak with Ohio State head coach Ryan day, and the buckeyes pro they last week. I was able to interview him at the combine in Indianapolis. Let's see what coach day thinks of his record-setting signal-caller. We're seeing that so much of the game really centers around the quarterback. What is the challenge in getting young quarterbacks ready to play even at the college over an maybe the NFL level? It takes time, you know in in. You know, I think when you see kind of like the way Dwayne came on this year so much of that was done leading. Up to to the season understanding of protections such a huge part of being a quarterback nowadays. Understanding what's going on up front. Not only the confidence. But the ability to get the line to to protect four you understand where the where the defense is trying to attack you, but then also defensive structure understanding how to attack coverages undertand understanding how your foot work time's up with the progressions all those things come into play. And I think that you know, now quarterbacks are coming more and more prepared in the college into the NFL, but still so much work to be done in the classroom. What makes to Wayne Haskins such a special player? First off he has a special talent his innate accuracy, some of the best of ever been around. I had a chance to be amount around that Ryan when he was at this age, and you know, very similar that way the intimidation the touch has a great feel for what's going on in front of them. You know, also has has really embraced the classroom understands again like we're talking protections defensive structure what's going on in front of them thought. He did a really good job this year with that, you know, especially late in the season with some of our games where he took control of what was going on up front. But he has he has a special spirit about him. He doesn't get rattled. He stays pretty even keeled. And and nothing's too big for him. You know, when you think about the stage being big, obviously you've been around NFL quarterbacks and they have to perform in pressurized environments. How do you think he will perform when he has an opportunity to be a franchise quarterback? I think he'll do great. I think that it's not going to happen overnight. You know, Dwayne his and played a whole lot of football. So every time he's. Doing something. It'll be for the first time in the NFL. So I think every time he plays. He'll be learning. You know, we talked about it all the time you either win or you learn you don't fail. And I think he's gonna take that approach when he's in the NFL, you know, in thinking about young quarterbacks and continue to develop them. What would you say is one thing that you absolutely love about him? And what a franchise will love about him when they begin to really dig down deep and meet him. I would say overall his overall spirit. He he's got a great spirit about him. He's been raised the right way, his his heart's in the right place. He cares about the people around him any wants to be great. I think he's been working his whole life for this opportunity. And he's going to make sure he wills himself to to be successful. And it's not going to happen overnight. He understands that. But in during that journey he's going to bring a lot of people with them first year head coach, Ohio State you've been in this program, though. But you gotta feel like a proud father. When you've got these guys out here performing today. Yeah. Very impressive group. Obviously watching the way and throw the ball is really impressive to see in the ways worked on his body over the last couple of months and throwing the ball. Really? Well. And then when you look at the guys that he was thrown to today, what an impressive group. Now, you got some speed. Some speed was on display with that wide receiver group and Paris Campbell. Looks like he's going to be okay. Just more precaution than anything else today. Yeah. He was running a kind of a flood sale route. And you know, the foot kind of winning around the wrong way. And you know, he's really done a great job with the. Mind, and obviously what is put on film. So there's one be careful if we can start with Dwayne. One year as a starter? What do you feel are the biggest questions you get asked about him that you sort of need to shoot down or respond to? I mean, really it's just at this time last year. He really hadn't played it. All he played the one game that team up north game. And so he didn't he didn't have any experience. Nucle- stars incomes into the season. Throws fifty touchdown passes has an unbelievable season. But it's you know, there's just not a lot of games. There's only so many games, and that's not his fault. But he just doesn't have a ton of experience other than that. When you look at his game in the way, he really came on at the end of the year kind of speaks for itself. Underrated part of his game that maybe everybody doesn't see because there are so few games football IQ when you look at you know, some of those games down the stretch he handle all those protection calls, and he got the line organiz and the protection which I think is such a huge part of quarterback play, especially at the next level. But he really does understand football understands protections progressions defensive structures. And so when you sit down and. Talk with them about football. You'd be very impressed chance to wash him today. And and to me, you mentioned just the shape that he's in. He looks. He's I told him he's a lean mean fighting machine at this point time, but really tried to accentuate that quickness in the pocket, he saw him shoulder roll on and moving around and climate around in there as an athlete. I mean that's been one of the concerns about him going forward. No, mobility wise, you're going to be able to get away from it your take on joins athleticism a long way since he got here in our strength staff and in Mickey morality unbelievable job getting them to where he is. Now when you saw down the stretch in the Maryland game. I think you ran it for thirteen times in that game and show that he can run when he needs to he can get himself out of trouble. He's not going to be a runner. He's not a J T Barrett or Braxton Miller, that's not his style. But as he's gotten more mature, and as he is body's grown his legs have gotten stronger he is able to extend plays. He is. I don't know how much zone retail. Do it the next level and things like that. But he can get himself out of trouble. And he needs to Nick told us that he's kind of a quiet guy. What who is he in? What sort of literacy he's himself, which you know, we talked about all the time every quarterback has to be a leader. That's number one job, but every leader's different. Everybody has their own style. His style is he does a lot of work behind the scenes, and as he became more and more confident got more games under his belt, his leadership style took more to the forefront. And I think as he grows it will grow as well last thing. And and I'll let you go here. Coach on a scale of one to ten how sick does it. Make you to sit next to people wearing blue on a set. I want to say this. You guys are lucky eating have to do support ups over there. People were in this building who wear blue. They get thrown out at the take off the shirt or have to do push up. So you guys are lucky. Yeah. Okay. Well, yeah. This is your pass right now. The next time he was in trouble. They we go put this on film. You got ten. Count them out six seven eight nine ten, okay. You could sign them up. I don't know. Learn to be learned his lesson when you walk through these hallways. You can see two we mean business. Thank you. Absolutely. All right, buck. I guess I I learned my lesson at the at the end of that. I knew I don't have anything network year. NFL network years blue they reference it to school up north and. No, you can't walk up in enemy colors. Yeah. No. I I I screwed that one up and I paid for it. That's all right. Do the time. You do the crime do the time. And knocked out those ten pushups sore the next day. Maybe maybe I was just a little bit. All right. Who we got next year? I think this is one of the more fascinating conversations around Dwayne Hassans because I don't know how many people know this story book about a mentor in his life. Who if you're at NFL fan, you'll be very familiar with this name. And that is a former Pro Bowl cornerback. Shawn springs. I sided for our next guest here. Shawn springs thirteen years in the National Football League. One of the best secondary players during that period of time. Sean, thanks so much taking the time for us today. Man. Glad to be on man. What you guys, but I look I could literally with questions as Bucky coups. Well, talking about your playing career, but we wanna talk to you about your relationship with one more thing players in this year's draft class Dwayne Haskins. So can you start off just Philipson on the back story of where Dwayne grew up where you met him? And and where it went from there. It was thing because I've been waiting since he was like eleven twelve years old while I was at a passing camp where my son was in sixth grade and twenty seven th braid next thing, you know, my son gets up throws the ball thirty yards. And I was like that's pretty good. Dwayne is right behind me throws ball like the is like twelve years old. Care like that. That's pretty amazing. Right. And and you know in looking around in the stands, and I'm looking around and is only two little black kids out there. So. Matassa bad out there. I was like missed excuse me. Sarah's at your son was mister Haskins news like yeah. That's my son. And he was coming. He was nice. And then when the Wayne came off the field, my son's Colladay were friends, obviously, he was like, hey, Mr. sprays, I play with your madman. I'm a big fan of Mr. asking us look around with I get into football players. Like, man, I'm a bad out here, ma'am. The story began you took an even deeper interest beyond that Cam in looking about it you would go and visit him in jersey. And so from your time kind of being around him and being an influential presence in his life. How is the Wayne Haskins grown from initially meant to the kid? It's been a start Ohio State. Are they think I initially mad whereas a kid who have potential, but obviously, you know, like anything you gotta be in a rice situation when I saw the Wayne, and I just told him as a hey man, there might be opportunity for this kid play in Washington DC area. And I remember they came down for weekend. And we watching good counselor skillman good counsel out of kidney, Stefan bigs in kindle fuller with his star out there and Gilman had a kid name Cyrus sour Jones. And it was a good game. Dwayne saw that he was like man, I need to be a part of that. And we're fortunate who able to get the family to wanna move down to Washington DC area, Dwayne pick bullets. So that his to me. Get a great education, and he just him mature the biggest thing, but before young players, you may have aspirations that wanna play on major one. But you gotta have the work ethic. And that was the biggest thing I try to install Dwayne. He would ask wrestling Tom Brady like like mad. He was a hard worker. You know ran a five, but he worked hard and he was the first building versa. Again, last leave show one thing I saw from twenty four ways from the twelve euro to where he was fifteen stop for sixteen junior high school. He was just he just containing the Abedin progress. And I think when he got to a house state, I think it was a little bit of opportunity to alarm from AT leadership build his body up really good to next level in college, Sean, I'm sure during that process during the recruiting process of coaches from all these different schools reach out to you to try and learn about the Wayne, but any of it could be lower state, whoever whoever talk. During that process and ask you, what do you think this kid will become what can he do for us? What was your answer? Major d one a high Q we knew that do I have that mean I told people when he was in high school. I remember talking to campaign number that, you know, the hell issue was just like man, this guy's special where he can throw the ball and picks when he makes Justinus oftentimes you see Kim high school, you know, they the because they're bigger stronger faster than funded. Dwayne could go e- could go through one to progress in high school, you know, come off the first week go back to the second or you make adjustments. Hey, the way, you know, from this past on throw this out to the opposite side of the field. And he was take those. We'll pick it up. And I just told every coach was improving to Wayne that you got especially kid, you know, he's not a typical mobile quarterback. He's a big strong Stanley pocket in throw the ball around type guy, you know, thinking about because sometimes quarterbacks like, the Wayne can't get kind of lumped in the box with some of the mobile quarterback that we've seen played a musician. But he's a pure. Pocket passer, and you speak to his I q when you've been around him. You've watched him work. How much does he just love ball? And how how smart is he when he comes to kind of understanding and breaking down the Xs and os. I told people for me a physical harm stand point of view. He's sprayed. In game. He's probably better than half the corners. I play with no disrespect to like, Brunell kitten, and and house back in those guys that I can only think of like maybe Tom Brady warm moon that I can actually say like man with his arm talent combined with his love for the game. But the Utah can buy a gym, right? You know, we hear that term talk about basketball with he's a gym raccoons. But bow he'd correct, you know, I I was a playboy all American with Peyton and pain. What acts a lot of questions. And and that's why I feel when I'm around to win. He's one of those guys like if he's around you, and he knows that you if it was around Mike Cohn from for like hour, he's to every question about Brett farve, high can be better he is a gym rat. He's one of those guys you put him in a situation where he's Ron veteran. His discuss soak it up these learn what do you think is best for him shy? Like, get your opinion. Just kind of putting your player head on for. Somebody hadn't started a lot of games there at the collegiate level MAC a lot of these. Teams have different plans to these quarterback. Somehow you're gonna come in. You're gonna go right away. You get the ball your keys to the car. Other teams. We saw a Pat Mahomes get a chance to to sit for year, just in your personal opinion. What would be the best path? They're dwayne. I like to I like to Patrick my home about behind Alex math. I liked the, you know, how you know, you have that type of released resi somebody's young quarterbacks coming into the league in yet a college. But you know, the first time you see a great ribs defense and you see a defense. I give you a lot of different lutts. There's no longer no longer playing Wisconsin. No longer term do annoy. I'll love at the Wayne, you know, to go to a situation where he learned from veteran quarterback weather's for half a year will full year, you know, he can just really can develop in really just understand the game with the means to be a professional with means to be a pro so giants perfect situation where everyone talks by manning being there, and I would be ideal for him to go there with Tom light Ingram, you got shit her. Yeah. At all you got barking the man child. So with those type of weapons in you learning. I mean, that's how you you know, you play fifteen years versus you. Go get thrown into the fire you play five. You know in thinking about it. And the about his personality lists say Dwayne is kinda thrown in the fire, and he goes to obtain. It doesn't have a lot of weapons around him. Do you think he has the resolve and resiliency to be able to handle this situation, and it won't crush his confidence, and he'll be able to kind to fight through an adverse situation and then see his way to the other side. Yeah. I think one attributing his faith in his family where he was raised by bombing dad, very spiritual people. So I think he's pretty mature care for his as but the radio is always had two hundred dog. You know, I mean, you know, you know, what I'm gonna splitting when he was younger where he was kinda heavy safety in his body that catch up to his arm strength. And where he believes he always had that idea. Like, I got to work harder than everyone else. I'm not as talented as everyone else. I want to be the best. So I don't have to do extra and part of that controversies dinner, his family and part of this me being in this era. Give McGrady every year saying now, you gotta be better. And this has been great advisers. Great people in the nappy laugh of this cue to want to be better. And I think he he could I think, you know, his life experiences. Want him the opportunity? He look, grit and toughness. You know your quarterback in the National Football League starting quarterback. You're definitely under the microscope. But for those that might not be aware of just how big football is in Columbus Ohio being the starting quarterback at the Ohio State University. What type of a microscope has has already been under? Yeah. Yeah. And it was a big microscope for obvious. You know, the type of, you know, a tradition at a house they'd had. And you know, it, you know, people forget, you know, JT berry was a big step victories for anyone to feel what he did for our program, and how many Tesla's he had and many times these big ten year before I was Braxton Muller. And so I think the Wayne part of his showers going you come out higher recruits. And you got a back up those guys, you gotta learn you gotta be mature enough to be able to put your ego to sign and say, you know, what I'm a backup not gonna wait. My parents that I was a line except for the way, you know, going where he went through this year with the urban Meyer situation on how much would Ryan day and in turmoil surrounding surrounding the university at the time, I think I think he was very poised. And I think what has system thing you can see all year without offense in our team hostage was waiting played outstanding. And I think that just shows you the level of maturity that he has, you know. How he focus on his craft. And and it was in. There was times, you know. You know, you know, the he wanted to be, but I think he was disappointed by Purdue loss, and obviously he probably never met it. But I think it it ticked law. Something lost to Cal in the Heisman Trophy. I think he's little disappointed about that. But and ended the day he does he's trying to grind and get better. We're thinking about grunted and get better who could you envision him play like the next level? Who do you think would be a nice comparison of estimate when we see any way asking what kind of player he will be the next level? I think a lot of people think about wanting been rothlisburger for me the guy would compare them to be Philip rivers. I'll love or you know, when Phillip came on NC state with that big live arm, and he wasn't on an all out of place. He can stand in the pocket. He was strong. He was an athletic enough to escape, but yet he made all the reads down on fail. I kind of see that food Wayne, I think little river doesn't get enough the deep. For what he's done for the San Diego. Chargers. Franchise. I know one thing guys buck if a team drafts Dwayne Haskins and they get Philip rivers. They dancing in the street in that city, and we can't wait look. He's fun player to watch. We can't walk cannot wait to watch his future unfold, and Sean we can't thank you enough for for taking some time for us here today. Real interesting. Interesting chat there with Shawn springs. That tells you a lot about Dwayne Haskins. And and look how serious he takes football. I mean, he moved from one state to the next to put himself in the right situation where he could grow as a football player and have a chance to play the next level. Yes. Yes. Marines took a tremendous interest in Dwayne Haskins as a young guy, obviously paid off moved to the DMV area to have better competition, and it paid off because eventually goes to Ohio State. And so anytime, you have a mentor they really can kind of sprinkle in some nuggets to help you get along the way I think Dwayne Haskins is certainly better for that. All right, buck, what's always fun to to talk to the high school coaches and the mentors for these young players, but there's nothing better than talking their college. Teammates. Those guys offer tremendous insight into these prospects. And we've both had a chance to do that. I was out there at the Ohio State pro day with a Deakin Kabbalah got a chance to visit with Nick Bosa could be the first overall pick in the draft as well as all big ten wide receiver. Paris campbell. And no you had a chance to visit with their very talented defensive lineman Dray Mont Jones. So these guys were all teammates at Ohio State with Dwayne Haskins. And here's our conversation with those three men, I want you to put your your scouting hat on for minute. Here. We've talked about you talked about your brother is another main attraction here today in your quarterback Dwayne Haskins. But can you can you speak to him a little bit as a as a leader for this team this Buckeye team taken over J T Barrett who was lauded for his leadership. Dwayne like is a leader. Twain was similar to me is more quiet, which I think is more when you're quiet in what you say really when when you're not just spewing stuff out when you what you say really mean something and somebody hears we have to say, and they're like, wow, he he said something. So he must really mean it. So I mean from freshman year sophomore year, he was definitely learning how to do it. But once he got the reins of the team was going to make him place for the team. He came into his own big time. Give me something about your quarterback, Wayne Haskins that that maybe most folks don't know. Honestly, I would say at first, you know, when DeWayne I came in. You know, everyone knew he had talent. I think this where he lied to assist on the leadership, and he took it a extraordinary role on this past season leadership on everyone knew he could throw the boy everyone knew that. He would be no no these high highly touted quarterback, but everyone was concerned about his leadership. And just the way that he took the the bull by the horns on this team on the things that he did just throughout each game. You know, he always was poison the huddle, you know, he always kept guys going kept spirits up. And that was huge for us. You know, because we needed that from our quarterback on especially, you know, JT leaving him being the leader that he was Dwayne really stepped out and just became leader that we need it for us. You know beyond his leadership. What else is Dwayne Haskins bring to the table when you're starting quarterback. I think he brings way that's number one thing that I think, you know, he steps on this Bill. He knows he knows. He's the best quarterback. He brings that swag. And that allows you know for the receivers run it back to the lines is play with confidence knowing that. I'll quote about her confidence not only himself. But didn't us says will I wonder what type of an athlete is? Because that's been one of the concerns right is. Although some some folks said he was too athletic other folks that okay, we question a little bit. Now. Now, have you have you hooped with them like give me something about athletically that we can help them up a little bit. What we got? I think I say he's absolutely when he wants to be. I think if you go back to the, you know, the Maryland game, you know, he actually had a couple of rushing touchdowns that game. And you know, they were they're forcing him out of the pocket. And I think you know, like, I say athlete when he wants to be. So he he has it. You know, he's got a big find it. On the other side of the ball Dwayne Haskins emerged as a force in the big ten. What did you guys see from him to let you guys know that he was going to be a special player this year for state? If either way back wonder, no when he at first he wasn't really talking to weight room like that. And then like progressively he's gotten better and better because no guy for on them. And then he started developed his own role, and realizing they know the weight room is going to be my baby basically is going to be my home if I'm going to be dominant quarterback. And then spring ball what he has done for the stars gets Joe burrow. He definitely just came into his own. He's had to become more of a instead of being in the guy who was just like lay back and just moved. He's saying he took a lot more control the office because talent was already there. So the leader aspect that. He did you know in speaking of his leadership ability. What can a leader is? He is. He a vocal guys quiet, Dubai example, type what kind of leadership skills. Did you display as the season went along? He seemed more about a game, Tom leader. When when the moment was there. He took advantage of it. It wasn't like he was giving a game Tom again before a game prep speech or anything. He wasn't that type of player. He was more. So like when the situation gets up. No you layers. There's some interesting conversations they're buck with those teammates. And it's really a fascinating case study there between Haskins because not somebody that's a three or four year starter. You know, we saw some of those quarterbacks last year namely Baker Mayfield who played so much football Dwayne Haskins head to to wait, his turn be patient. And then when the opportunity presented itself to go out there and take advantage of it. And you kind of see that picture painted there by his teammates it, absolutely. They paint a great picture of him in his leadership, and how it evolved over the course of the season in anytime. You're thinking about selecting a franchise quarterback. You wanna make sure that he has the leadership skills? And I think in those conversations with his teammates, they convey, the disguise is a really good leader. He has grown in terms of his ability to to command respect and their attention. And so I think the future is bright for doing Haskins. How we got a chance to visit with those around Wayne Haskins. Let's let's get to the man himself. Buck you interviewed him in Atlanta on Super Bowl weekend at kink of wall. And I were in. In columbus. Ohio for the pro day last week we each had a chance to visit with Dwayne Haskins in. Here's our conversation with the buckeyes all American quarterback. How's everything going great, man? Having a blast out here. Dwayne like, so many people are excited about your potential, and the things that you've been able to accomplish just tell me what were you able to learn about yourself during your final season, high your state, I got so much work to do, you know, fly I get so much better going through every game. I learned something new about myself. But I know that got a ways ago, but has scare how good I feel like I can be you know, in in looking at your game at Ohio State. What would you say some of the things that you bring to the table for an NFL team distributor? This be able to throw all over the field short intermediate deep, and then be able to to have time in rows deep routes their stuff that I can do over to fill to give offense of a record and dynamic. No, one of the questions that you were here as you continue to go forward in the process, or who are some of your role models who are some of the guys in the pros that you Pat in your game. After a lot of guys I say drew Brees accuracy Aaron Rodgers all platform. Throws Tom Brady leadership the stuff that everybody does. Well, try try to model into my game. I don't really say what is one of quarterback. The only thing that you do well about his love this love the game. You know, like, obviously have watched you since you were a teenager coming through the camp, sir circuit. I knew that you were a special player. But if you had to tell people what is going to allow you to be a special plan to pros. What would you say that once trade is? A humble, man. Is this knowing that I I know I have resurfaced of what I can be. I'm gonna keep working hard and mcgarry around me better. And just knowing that I'm gonna put us off every day. So then when we have an opportunity to visit with you at the combine, what are some of the things that you wanna show up at the combine to make people feel comfortable about you potentially being the number one quarterback in this draft. Well, I'm killed aboard. So I'm gonna get on the board coverages protections. All that. I love that stuff. You'll be able to do on the interviews showing that I had the personnel to be native franchise quarterback. So that's all I wanted to do when I go to combine show that you get a chance to sit down with a man of the hour here in the way and Haskins. Do I ha-? How'd you feel everything went for you today that a win great has my versity with Perez can hurt today, but we made it work. But no, definitely a proud of my guys just sat down and said you were in a off camera. I missed a couple of throws maybe like one or two. What was it? So important to you to come out here and do this again, though. And why does it still eat at you wanted to be perfect to? But you know, everything's going to be perfect. But I had a good time. One of the things that I mentioned watching you throw today. I thought you did a great job of kind of accentuating the movement. The quickness inside the pocket just kind of little shoulder rolls and just a little quick sudden movement was that part of the plan today to show that off. Yeah. Definitely. So he's an award neighbors and didn't feel great all the time. So today, I just wanted to show that you know, that can move off platform move off spot, and she'll be accurate, and you know, really great guys where they fast guys would good for me today. So appreciate it. You've said repeatedly that it's very important to you to show teams. How smart you are? Why do you feel like that's been a knock on you? It's not necessarily a not just because of fair tight. But the biggest thing is I fucked I'm smarter than average quarterback and for me going through to combine going through meetings after the combine going into the draft disband able to retain information. So a lot of teams had any job there. Plays and able to recite the place to them how it worked for its protections. How starring coverages would go in. It'd be like six plays. I remember all the plays on one time. Then I'll get no time to think about it. So it's pretty it's pretty good. So I feel like I do a good opportunity table. I'm just curious from scouting perspective where your weight was in the fall versus where your weight is now because you look you can lean mean fighting machine right shape. What have you? Shape. What have you done it? How much weight have you lost from the season two now? No. So I was kind of heavy going into combine at hasn't good food after declare but there's getting back into game shape. This is the biggest thing right now. So he's played around twenty twenty four twenty five. So right now, I'm twenty five twenty six so by season populate twenty two you went to dinner with the entire giants contingent. Yes. So I was told by a member of that group that you were extremely impressive. Most what what? What do you feel really distinguishes you from all the other quarterbacks? Are there was the biggest thing with with Jeff quarterbacks? When a guy will be there for ten twelve fifteen years. And that's the guy you wanna lead your franchise. So every meeting that I go to I wanted to show. How charismatic I'm the house Martin. I am and it'd be able to relate to anyone in the room. So being able to sit down with them last night was awesome. Had a great time. You have some good talks eight some good food. And you know, it was a great experience you played well throughout the season. But you found another level at the end, especially those last three games when you look at a rivalry game a conference championship game. And then the big Rose Bowl over Washington. What what really clicked for you to lock in. And just take off at the end of the year. Like you did. So cosmic told me to be a dude then as his face. So for those that don't know explain who coach Mickey shrimp coats. And I would like to say, he's probably the toughest guy. No. So for him. It was his do. So there was times in the game where I had to take over. So nothing that I wasn't playing great and again the season, but I just took complete ownership of the team at that point as we got down to stretch trying to get. Back into the playoff run. And it was a lot of fun honestly to be able to have those games like that and finish out high level but me saw two offense alive. Receivers made all the great plays in is put it in the right spot. And this led them talk about being able to take over one of the things I've heard about you is that you didn't have a difficult game. This year never faced in game adversity. What is there any fear about that watch the Maryland deemed, so I know I know. India being the biggest adversities is was mostly off the field. And then and then this football, it's always a battle. So you might win to my loose on during a game in itself. So the biggest thing for me was able to learn how doing not scoring every drive or defense not stopping one drive and be able to still win the game. So each game wasn't learning. Experience. We have some tough ones, whereas Penn State, and and Purdue and Michigan state and he played his heart. But I thought those games made a stronger, and is it got down to season this more so fun for me to be able to grab the guys. And it'd be the guy that I wanted to be the beginning season. I want to go back to previously. When you're you're sitting here, and you're backing up J T Barrett, and and J T Barrett is a good player, but you're talking about now someone that's going to go in the top ten. How did you manage the frustration of having to wait your turn here at this program? It was hard. But the best thing about how state is that? You know, you love your guys. So even when data was the guy he made sure he he he tutored me any nurtured me. It was able to you know, let me grow but not separate toes at the. Same time. So definitely haven't him in. My my quarterback room was able to learn from him in the first two years of not playing maybe ready to play it finally your that a plate and appreciate it for being there during the time. I was like I wanna play, but you know, definitely with him being there and gave me ready for got me ready for the season DJ asks you about that at the next level. Dave Gettleman, for example, the giant GM he's been very open in saying he likes that model the Kansas City model where a rookie comes in. And sits for year. Would you be okay with that? You already have in your mind. Well, I'll be top whatever five six ten pick. And I better play right away river God wants to be I wanna be and whether that's plan from day one or playing halfway through the season or the two or three mean Aaron Rodgers wait how many years of play and he's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. So I just know that whenever I get my shot. I'm gonna do my thing. So same thing with the backing updates got in the mission game in toward up. So whenever my opportunities going to be there. I'm ready for when you look at you go into the next level my have opportunity bring somebody's receivers with Paris. Unfortunately. Got nicked up. I was told just a little slight hamstring. So they decided to be precautious there shut him down. But tell us about your receivers we saw three here. Maclaurin dickson. I thought I had a great day as well. And then Paris, yes. All three of them in their own. They're all really great guys. And then on to be able to have off AM super fast. You know, Janis more of the route runner Terry's more the more physical guy in Paris a little bit of both. So I just feel like because Paris are so fast. And he's the guy they overshadow sometimes, but you know, especially teams lies tears investable best in the country. Johnny part was the best routes in the country. So today was able to scout. So they did a great job. I'll tell you what. I it's been fun to watch you compete and watch you what you did here today. We wish you the best of luck. As you go through the process. Are you going to go do we know if you're going to Nashville for the draft undecided right now? But it's been to go there. So we'll see. All right. I encourage you to go you want great time, and you won't have to wait very long to hear your name cold. I pray for that one. I mean, I used to Wayne Haskins. Abucha confidence is the word that comes to my mind when you listen to Duane talk. He's he he's very sure of himself. He's very confident a dozen eight rub. You the wrong ways got good energy about him. I wouldn't even say crossover in the cockiness thing, which I don't mind, but just a very east very sure of himself for somebody with one year of production there at Ohio State, the confidence Israel. I think he has legitimate confidence in his ability a thing that confidence concentrated heat works tweeted, he studies and prepares and so I would expect him to get to the next level. And it may take him some time to settle in. But once he figures it out, I would expect to see him have a lot of success because he is a hard work. And he's very smart when it comes to IQ, and we know about his arm talent, you know, he can he can spend the football. No doubt about that. Best. I well, let's talk about should he be the first quarterback taken. I know I think we we've said this both on the record before it doesn't matter where we have is a top guy. You have Haskins I have Murray, but it comes down to fit as it does every year. It always comes down to fit housing what fits within the. Game. I believe that Dwayne Haskins is the best of the quarterbacks and the draft when you have Arizona Senator top and that maybe relationship between Kingsbury and Calum Murray, maybe that impacted but in terms of who I think the best quarterback when it comes to the arm talent hitting the prototypical things I think to Wayne Haskins is that guy. I believe the giants would be a terrific fit. Obviously their team that needs to have a young quarterback in place. I believe they can surrounded with enough weapons where he could succeed it being from his area where he grew up. It would be a nice fit. Also think the Washington Redskins would also kind of suit his talent. So they're a couple of teams we've talked about it right now as draft stands somewhere in the top half of the first right now expect to see Dwayne Haskins come off to board. Yeah. Look in terms of fits the giants to me are the obvious best fit for him. And where it makes the most sense that would be at pick number six. They also possess pick number seventeen. But look if you're in love with a quarterback, you you you take him at six. Don't sit there and cross your fingers. You're going to be there at seventeen. So that to me makes the most sense you mentioned the Washington Redskins. I could see that a little bit. You know, the team I wouldn't sleep on is the Cincinnati Bengals. I would not sleep on the Bengals this is a Bengals team that has a long track record history. It's well known their affinity for big ten players. This is some ways not far away their in state get a chance to see him. And and throwing the football. I think he's got stronger arm than any and he can make some throws in any adult can't make now he's not as athletic that move around quite as well as Dalton does. But you've got to take into account the price tag. This a real thing having these quarterbacks on a rookie deal and being able to build up your roster around them since Bengals have lost a lot of players over the years in free agency, people bang on them for not being active and bring guys in. I don't I don't care about that. The problem is when you get to the point where you spend the time and developed some of these players don't resign them that becomes an issue. So to me Dwayne Haskins. Frees up the money for them to be able to retain their own going forward. I would not sleep on the Cincinnati Bengals with Haskins. It makes sense. It makes a lot of sense in a variety of ways. Not only the connection the oils, Ohio State Cincinnati connection and the way to being having affinity for big ten players, but we have seen consistently the teams that are able to buy for the championship are the teams to have quarterbacks playing rookie deals because you can build the team around their talents. You can really expend it. And so the Bengals looking to get to that point where they can add some talent to their roster to best way to do it draft to a rookie quarterback stardom and then continued at pieces to the team. Yeah. Well, we'll see what happens there with twain Haskins. Once we get to the draft day. I it's it's gonna be fascinating to see especially if Kyle Marie ends up going number one as we all expect that to me turns to the biggest storyline of the draft is where does Dwayne Haskins land. And if for some reason, the giants do not take him at number six buck, then it gets fun because all bets are off are their team's going to be jumping up there to get him are their teams. Twenties. You know, keep an eye on team. Like the chargers who knows what they're going to do trying to find their successor to Philip rivers down the line if he starts to drift in the draft. You've got teams like that that could be poised to strike the Pittsburgh Steelers would be another team. I would keep an eye on. So it right now as we record this it looks like the giants the most likely landing spot for doing Haskins. But if they don't pick him at six buck, it's gonna get fun. It is going to be a lot of home. Because this is a I mean, it could be a while. Well, west of the draft when it comes to these quarterbacks because we all have speculated work as we go all the takes is one guy to upset applecart and changed the entire landscape of the draft. We'll see where Wayne housing goes on draft night. Well, I love our three sixty series. Hopefully, you've enjoyed this episode on Dwayne Haskins if you're in Ohio State Buckeye fan. I've got some good news for you. Because the next three sixty episode is going to feature wanted joins teammates. And that's Nick Bosa player. I believe is the best football player in this year's draft glass. You can find all these three sixties as well. As our regular move. Sticks podcast. You can go to NFL dot com slash podcast. You can find on apple podcasts as well. Or your favorite podcast app in the videos. Buck NFL dot com slash empty video YouTube dot com slash NFL. The first three sixty episode for the twenty nineteen draft class is in the books. And then you want to add before we get out of here. Buck. No, I'm excited to make sure you tune in. We have a lot of talented prospects there. We're gonna break up. We've got a tremendous lineup for the three sixty series this year, hopefully enjoyed this one and beyond look out. There's another one a right around the corner. Thanks again to our guy cat for putting this all together all the hard work there behind me glass, and we'll see next time right here on this fix.

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And a Greg Cody. Who is appreciably? Worse at everything then Stugotz's so this is a greg cody Tuesday happy to happy. Greg Cody Tuesday. I don't make you guys happy when Stugatz and Greg Cody bother me and yesterday at the start of the show. I just got to views to Gaza's crack for seven minutes as he tried to fix it. Sound couldn't even talk to him so now just before we're about to start today and just to show the audience how we're doing what we're doing. Stugatz is in his home in an office in front of a microphone with a barking dog. That won't stop barking. Billy Tony and Chris in their homes Roy their in their homes. I can see all of them. They have jobs to do within the show as we do it. And then there's a little box for Greg. Cody and Greg. Cody's faces no longer there and I told you the last couple of weeks. With cody. Stotts have been some of the worst shows we've ever done because there's no chemistry. There's no raining There's no way to make him not awful in this circumstance but now the degree of difficulty has been increased. I can now not see Greg Cody. He is simply disembodied voice in computer that is going to talk whenever wants to and has no regard for other people or when they're talking. So what am I? GonNa do with Greg. Cody over the course of this. Show like Mike Ryan is considering letting. Greg cody go because this the degree of difficulty this is going to make it even more ruinous than it usually is on Tuesdays. I don't WanNa like Greg Cody Go. Because whether he says one word or thousand words just seeing Greg Cody on. My screen is something that brings a smile to my face. It makes me very very happy. So I am all for keeping Greg. Cody here even if Greg Cody doesn't say a single thing. I'm based out of the Hugh who are exceedingly kind to Greg Cody at all times. But he doesn't even have a back in my day STU Gotz Literally. Everyone's at home doing nothing literally. This is the only job he had for our radio show today so now he's not only a black box. That is going to speak whenever it wants to during the show today. He is actively not doing the things he's been employed to do literally. The only thing that's asked of him on Tuesdays is due back in my day. It's the only reason he's here practically because the rest of what he's doing is bothering me. Yeah it seems to me and perhaps Numb to it and I don't care because as you stated earlier I think the audience loves one meeting. Cody Annoy you. It just seems like a regular Tuesday except we're on our houses. I mean this is Greg Cody. This is what he does sometimes. We'll have a back in my day. It's a dicey sometimes. It'll be good most times. It'll be bad but we love. That's the way it is but we can't even tell when he's got something to Annoy. Dan With Age just says Great Tony Him. I think he's afraid to talk right now because we can't see him and we don't know when he's going to be interrupting. I can tell he's trying to talk right now. I have him. You did but I can go. But he's like you said he's just speaking when he wants. It's not going over the air. I can see his boxes. Lit Up. Can't even hear the gods because he's still talking like so so for those of you who don't understand how we're doing this. It's me and Mike staring into a laptop at these people. Were right next to each other and Mike has one microphone to speak into and when he speaking they. It can't be heard Stugatz. Billy Roy Chris Tony Cody. They can't be heard if Mike Ryan speaking because he's got to throw his headset at the computer to let anyone in our show talk today so student. What am I supposed to do here? Greg do you have any thoughts on what were yelling about? Can I be heard yes? Yes Echo on my voice here. Which is problematic excellent. No no no no no please. Don't it's okay hold on a second just back off for a second see if you can get fiddle around with the KNOBS. Turn your computer on and off. See if you can figure out how to fix. What's do you think? That's a bad idea. Greg fiddling around with knobs after. He said he needs a full time. It person living in his before. The show is not something I would suggest Greg to do. You don't want him to fiddle around with. That sounded good enough. We'll take it helped me with something. The place that your father is working from in his home. Okay because Greg Cody is now an old person so that has become an old person's home the office the office that your father is in right now. Chris cody is this or is this not accurate. He's coughing now. Wonderful isn't Chris. Yes or no. Your father's office is stuck in like nineteen eighty eight. Yes or no yes it is it is little. My wife is yelling at me now. Yes the nineteen eighties. It is so bad he he. He's right he's in the same office now is using a desktop. You should be using his laptop. I can't deal with them why you were yelling at him before the show the what were you yelling at him because he's perpetually embarrassing you. Were yelling at him because his zoom isn't working right Chris. Chris was getting yelled at by his wife so he mike. I'm sorry you turn your white wait. Wait let's backtrack for a second here because I'm about to get mad at the entire cody family. Why is your wife yelling at you during radio you really? Are you really leaving because you did you? Just go into another room because you're trying to get away and talk privately. Why in God's name would your wife be yelling at you during the first segment of our radio show in a that? Would keep me from asking you a question. Because you're being yelled at by your wife. Chris I can say whatever I want to talk to you all right are you this. Thank you Chris. What does happen? I was busy yelling at your father and you come in and you both through the doors and you do that. What is she yelling at you about? I like to change up the back shot that I had in today's back shot. Had My wife block closer to me than she's been the last few days and I got really loud and she's about to start a meeting so right as I was talking. She's like Chris. Can you stop talking? I have to do meaning that that that point I realized probably not a great decision by me to switch it up today and move so I moved back over here where I am in my vicary. All right now I am studios. I would be setting the entire coding family. Everybody and your wife into the ocean together because I was yelling at your dad and you came in and you hit me over the head with a chair. I'd like to take a stab at answering the question. Originally posed to Chris Cody. He was getting mad at his dad before the show. Because there is a simple solve to all of this right now. Greg cody is on a PC without a Webcam knows how old that thing is. But he has an iphone. I know this about Greg so it can just merely download the zoom APP and use the cameras front facing camera and we can actually see him. Guess who doesn't know his Apple Password. That's right Okay Greg. Cote is all right ladies and gentlemen. Greg could attest your equipment last night. You could've figured out how to be in a professional setting. That wouldn't play defense against the show right off the Bat Stugotz. What what you have here with all that. Said who would have thought that Greg Cody would have been the better of the two code. He's in the first segment Steiner stunner. So the my Tuesday is going to be getting worse here. We're GONNA TRY WE. I reserve the right at any point here. I reserve the right to simply kick Greg. Cody off the show okay. So he's working too tight rope. Today is what I'm telling you. There is a. There's a zero tolerance policy on him doing spectacularly under-funding things and if he usurps the show with a technical glitch or something. I'm I'm reserving the right to kick cody off of the show today. Gregory you're willing to work under these conditions. Because you're you're really playing defense against everything we're doing here today. Yes but I want to set the record straight. Of course I know my apple. Id and I entered it in but apparently it had been changed and so the the correct epilepsy was not available. You still don't know your changed. Okay very important defense of your apple. Id Situation Thank you know me but I I don't keep a master list of all as an apple. Id written down then. I just just him. Thank you the Apple. Id and password though could be very confusing. Sometimes we'll work one device but won't work another devices. I am with Greg Cody. You're thundering in with that book. Man This is GonNa be a difficult Tuesday for me and I'm just telling you right now. There's a very good chance that Greg Cote he just gets off the show because I'm not having any more. 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She says that's how much of real life is going to actually seep into these things you remember that video many years ago of a guy who was on television talking about some important geological issue and his child walks in behind him and then the next child walks in behind him and they're just doing their own child parade and everyone stopped listening to the important guy and just noticed. Can we get one of those video from this draft or it will coaches kill their children to prevent them from getting in the way of the draft pick? I am hopeful that we get to see like I. I am hopeful that kids walk into the office while the draft is going on. I am hopeful that there are glitches because we all glitches at home and I realize the NFL draft is super important. But they could stop it. But I would like to see the human side of some of these coaches and she ends and I think it would be refreshing if some of that stuff happens. Aren't you rooting for that to happen? And I always root for I root for the all. I'm watching the draft fours is. Where's the funny? I'm asking our audience to just drown us in. What's the funny? Where's the funding? Please tell me about the funding. Because this how many drafts have I sat out? How many drafts to I have no interest in talking about under any circumstances? Every one of them. Yes since you've known me I won't be watching this. What because our adding. I want the content of where is the funny because you gotta think the funding is going to be in the mistakes right not like and I hope I hope the league could take itself as a not seriously. Goodell is when he saying. I don't mind the fake booze. Like if they can turn this into an honest television event. This might be the most honest draft. We've ever seen God's because you're gonNA see the veneer of television fall on its face. I'm totally with you. I would like to see examples like the bengals are on the clock. They for some reason. They can't make their pig and the announcers and maybe even the bengals themselves accused Joe Borough of trying to hack into the system. Because he doesn't want to go to Cincinnati and so he's trying to mess with their Internet and they're gonNA delay they're gonNa put if there are delays. Nobody'S GONNA lose a pick because of failure or delay that they're not going to allow no. I know they will delay it. They will pause it and it will let the Bengals pick the guy they want to pick up. I'm just hoping jokes like that or made at teams expenses and stuff like that like I think. It should be chaos. I'm rooting for. Is that bad? Is that bad because I shouldn't be this televised event with a partner and But for the entertainment purposes of it it would be funny if I don't want to encourage illegal behavior of packing not doing that and walk back from that line but if someone did hypothetically happen to hack a big draft event that was important to the nation and something funny ended up there. I think that would turn into content the next day that we would we would all enjoy you know certainly on this show yes. I can't speak for the other shows but we would. Yes got to be honest. It sounds like you're asking for it to be known her. Wait a minute. I don't think that's fair at all. I'm not I just said I walked back from that line very carefully. That is a that is a third rail there. I am not I. I want to say publicly. I don't want to be misunderstood on this. I am not a hacking advocate. I am not for illegal behavior ever being tolerated with something as serious as our beloved. Nfl draft. What if someone did hack the show I think it might be funny and therefore it becomes hard to argue that? I'm not rooting for it. But I'm just rooting for funny and I'm quoting the blanket of funny over me and I'm hiding underneath it yet. Rooting for it. I'm sorry Mike Rooting for it and encouraging it or are two very different things. Got Your back on this. I understand we hold on a second. Wait a minute you don't have my back the right saying routing and encouraging or two different things and they're kind of the same thing and I was not saying that you had again misrepresented what I was saying. I am not encouraging anyone to hack. I am not supporting anyone and I don't. What kind of sound is that? I just think encouraging suggesting. Hey hackers go out there and this big NFL draft. That's one thing you're not doing that but if someone decides to go do it. You're certainly not going to not discuss it the next day. That's all that's a good way to put it in a much better. Way Of representing my. We've covered this earlier in the show. Greg Cody doesn't have a Webcam because he's on a PC. That is only used play hearts and solitaire but he loves the NFL draft more than anybody on this show. He's quite good at predicting the NFL draft and also he is our hacking expert. Now it's not computer hacking hacking cough. But I would like to get his heart. Fine Greg Cody Harold. You're here with us every Tuesday right now. You're just a black box in our zoom screen but give us your best draft stuff. What do you have just give it to us? You're not up against the clock. I'm not trying to fool you. Just give us your best draft stuff. Well I agree with you guys that all manner of technological glitches Thursday night will be welcome because I think they're going to be fun. Goodell or D has demonstrated he has a sense of humor and I think a certain amount of chaos Thursday night is actually going to be good for the League I'm hoping that Soo Gaza's incessantly barking dog magically materialize isn't Roger Goodell's base but in just parks nonstop. Well he's trying to make these bids me it's the most interesting draft ever Because of this remoteness and virtual stuff and also because the the dolphins Early or involved with the most intriguing decision which is whether or not to gamble onto so. I am genuinely looking forward to Thursday night in a way that I rarely do Nfl Dress has there been any credible reporting. Because I know speculation is something that we do now more than ever when it comes to transactions but is there incredible reporting on what the Dolphins think of two up? Because I keep hearing Herbert lately and this is something that just made an appearance when Tanenbaum a couple of months ago fell in love with the big tall guy. Who looks like a quarterback? So explain to me what's happening. There is there. What's the credible reporting on this subject? Because the dolphins are actually relevant in this thing. Yeah it's it's going to be two or Herbert. It's a ninety nine percent that they're going to go with a quarterback there. The the big question is whether they're gonNA feel the need to trade up to three bearing. The chargers right behind them are going to trade up to three. The dolphins prefer to ease a better quarterback. He's got a clearly higher overall draft grade from scouts. Inc was all the teams look at and in despite his lack of height. He's six feet to as the guy that if you trust is durability and his health is clearly the big he would be in my mind. The the number one overall pick ahead of borough if not for that hip injury I think the dolphins wont with all their might to pick to a tag of a lower and in need to be talked out of it on the extreme and perhaps undue caution. My draft comes out later today and I'm leaning strongly. God your mock draft leaning strongly. That's the announcement. Hold on a second. That's the cruddy announcement you just made on our show because you cannot speak a few sentences without plugging something for yourself down anymore so your so my new book as Geico presents. Not again another voicemail from your roommate. Hey man so I was in a rush to get to work and I love the back door open. Could you shut it? I lifted wide open. While you're there could you also turn off the oven and all of the burners? My mom never let me use the oven. I wonder why the Geico Insurance Agency could help. Keep your personal property protected. Like if it's your roommate's first time operating in oven visit. Geico DOT COM to see how easy it is to switch and save on. Renter's insurance styling this much you just said. He's leaning strongly toward having the dolphins pick to it but he doesn't WanNa commit just yet. 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Different virtual sites with many people involved is as the jets about announcer. Pick that STU gods some how bust in with his best. At Guy in announces whoever he wants he's not whoever advocated for hacking more than I did hear responsibly the league voice of the League across espn for Damn Near. What is it three decades? Now you just add more for hacking yes. I'm for it I mean come on I mean this is I'm like I really am like I'm one of those people believe. Why why do we have to wait until late? April they have a draft. It drives me nuts. But I know it works with the NFL calendar and it certainly works with our calendar at ESPN in terms of just generate a lot of interest. And unfortunately because of the Covert Nineteen Virus Pandemic You know it's it's GonNa be you know there's GonNa be a lot of people watching that's fortunate versus a network but You know it's driving me nuts. I'm tired of talking to two teams or even even reading stuff you know. It's like okay. The Miami Dolphins aren't taken to aren't taking too you know they're taking Herbert. You hear so much you figure its ally only find out that you know. They really might not take them You know as far as the chaos. I think it's funny. Yesterday I got the same texts from different people. Early on that Adam schefter. You gotten other other reporter's got that they already had a big glitch and you know took twenty minutes to get the first pick on But it actually went smoothly. The rest of the way there will be some chaos They agree but the League's agree to kind of stop the clock if they really think that they trade is needs a little more time to be executed. I've heard that most people believe the chaos would be on day tree rather than day one. But I am advocating some hacking and I would vote to take the lead on this. Give me something when you take Stu gods who would you take with the jets pick? I would take one of those three wide receivers. I like judy the best but I don't care which one we get in fact board. I would take that second pick in the first round. Combine it with a second round your next year. I would trade up. I would take both Alabama receivers and that would be the best wide receiver tandem. The jets ever had period. I'm sorry I asked all right. Dan I mean more more. It was it. Look did you see oh God himself worked up and then boom boom trade for a couple of skill guys the jets fan. You've known that my sincere here. What are the things that you're hearing more? That could surprise us. Are there like I understand that? Everyone lies and mysteries and smokes. But you're super informed and you're super plugged in so like what are some of the things that you're hearing. That people aren't noticing enough I really believe I've persistently been hearing that to a tongue of Iowa really could slide in this draft and it bothers me But I don't know why bothers me? I mean I I I have nothing to gain from it but But I know this much. The guy had a workout less than five months from his hip surgery. That people were saying well he'd have trouble walking But I do hear that the dolphins who really are you know you know. They'll they may do this thing where we don't want drew brees. We don't want to take Justin Herbert or we'll take or take a tackle the you you hear that and then number six with the chargers you think well to the natural Well you know I think they have other plans you know and then then you actually. I just got off the phone with somebody when you actually try and find a team like okay. What if he slides past the charges that six? You Know Jacksonville. Take him at nine. Don't think so I mean they got guard dementia. Why would you take him And then Andy. Oh that he can really sly. And I were talking about the scenario that Peter King used in his mouth draft. Where all of a sudden. It's like you know the New England Patriots. You'RE GONNA GET UP. I I don't you so that's the one thing that I think. The biggest question mark is legitimate is will to a slide in this draft in how many many teams were going to be ragging on two years from now when he's tearing up the leak. What can we examined for a second? Why it makes you mad because you are grizzled hardened reporter. You are a uniformly objective. Are You mad because Herbert is just one of these guys? Who looks the prototype and to a? We all knew was better before he got injured. So you're like that's not fair that he's injured knees draft. You know he's dropping past the you know the guy who's just the prototype of quarterback has always looked like well. I have a lot of respect for the medical community and the people who have been involved in in to Rehab and and who have who've had access to scan so some of the top hip specialists and the and the country that the NFL uses as their own have specialists who they'd recommend who ends to find your bell or you know injury Expert Medical. She's well-connected she wrote an article a week ago. Having these these doctors on their record and so it's Kinda like I I always I think if mad or agitated by teams that operate in fair. You know you know it's like you know Matthew Stafford never missed a game at Georgia missed. Nineteen Games his first two years and then went eight years without getting hurt again. You know Andrew Luck was the all time horse no real medical history and the guy's retired or they because he took such a beating. There's an element of luck in this stuff but the medical is onto our so encouraging and with doctors on the record that You know if you don't like him as a prize a quarterback that I can understand that if about the medical is which it is were a couple of things I've heard Then you to me you. You OPERATE SCARED. And if you're if you operate scared to me you're not gonNA you're not GonNa win in this league more. Why is Cam Newton still a free agent and Wendy signs? Who Do you think he's most likely to sign with He's he's free eighty right now because he is one case where you want your team doctors to to to to take a good look at them and so not being able to get in a building. is is one part of it when he signs you know. I've always thought the charges made sense but Anthony Lynn the coast there. The charges loves him. Some tyrod Taylor believes he can win and not just win with for one year but beyond that But that the charges make a lot of sense to me because he likes quarterback move around and You know let's see what the draft draft plays out but I mean to me. It was a little bit of a sign of red flag with the Washington redskins. Have Dwayne Hassans okay? I don't know that you're GONNA make it. You know they. They bring in Cairo Alan and they think cow maybe the starter at the start of the season. That's where I'm Rivera's is coach from the Carolina. So but I do think we'll find out on on Cam sometime shortly after the draft and I think between him and Jameis Winston by the way they're going to have to be willing to sign one of those short term contracts and then I don't know where he's going to end up I'll give them do the jets boo who's live with the jets damn on again and we love having a name more. Thank you sir. I GUYS TAKE CARE. Have a good day. Espn radio is presented by progressive. 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I am shocked by it for headlines. Information during the sportscenter on. Espn radio all throughout the day. It's because you don't retain and we are awaiting the Director of the Michael Jordan Documentary Bristol. Do we have him or are we waiting? Okay we've got him. Jason Air did the documentary that everyone is talking about. We'll make fun of Greg Cody in a second here. Because the way he ended that segment was really historically spectacularly funding and bad But before we do that I wanted to talk to Jason Air. Thank you for being on with us. have you been surprised at how universal sports fans are in praising you when sports fans can't agree about anything that's a good point Yeah it's been really gratifying for the entire team. We've been in a cave for the last two years watching these things ad nauseam so after a while you start to think like this and they're gonNA think it's boring 'cause we've seen it hundreds of times literally so To have people see it with fresh eyes in to be ab