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Maccast 2021.02.21

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Maccast 2021.02.21

"Mccaskey sunday february twenty first. Twenty twenty one eighty. Mickey 'cause it's time for your mac cast the show format geeks by mickey. I'm adam is the show where we discuss. All things back dash how you doing. Welcome back to the cast. Glad to be back here with you for a another episode of apple mac. News tips tricks and information. Hope you're having a wonderful week. Things are going pretty well for me here in met cast headquarters just looking over the show notes today. Looks like we have quite a few things to talk about. We're going to be getting into into a lot of stuff in this episode including where dan reach. You might have ended up with his special projects. We're going to be getting into a lot of apple tv plus news. Lots going on with apple's media efforts they're gonna be expanding and We have a little bit of things to talk about with respect to some comments made by former netflix's ceo. About how apple is doing and we'll have maybe a little debate about that. So interesting comments will get into that discussion. Also look at what's unfolding for future versions of the iphone also a little bit of what's going on with current editions of the iphone or get into some apple self driving vehicle stuff possible new products that might be on the way or maybe not and some malware that is servicing for some of apple's newer systems. That you should may be aware of. We'll we'll talk about what's going on there and also maybe some new airpods in the future so you can see lots of things to get into an discuss them. We're going to get into some of your feedback feedback on using my mac as display. We're gonna get into more mesh networking and feedback got some mail questions Somebody needs some help with mac. Os mail. We'll get into that and be back or an apple watch and apple. Vr ar headsets and lots of questions about a email. It looks like we're going to get into email signatures again. Live messages and photos and siri siri tip for you in this episode as well so you can see. It is pretty jam packed. I think we need to kind of just jump right into things but before we do. I do wanna take a moment and think a show sponsor and that is cachefly absolutely adore cachefly here at the mac cast because they help us get these episodes to you each and every week and they help us do it reliably and more importantly quickly and that is what they want to do for your website and your business because when websites don't load people lose interest in really for every second it takes page to load it can cost a company up to sixteen percent in engagement in fewer visits means fewer customers. And that's really not good for anyone cachefly. they have your back. They have a new web optimization capabilities. 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That works on apple's rumored vr and ar headsets. The peace claims the projects. Now have well over a thousand engineers working on them and they're still lead day to day by apple vice president mike rockwell but reach. You is stepping in to help out. The first headset is expected to be a high end. Vr focused device with some air capabilities. We talk about a little bit about this. One prior to the matt cast as well. That's the thing it's gonna be priced somewhere around three thousand dollars or more so very very high end target market. I think they're just gonna kinda feel the waters with the project. See what they can do with it but the whole project has reportedly been struggling a little bit in. It's believed reach ios presence. Could help get things back on. Track the peace also mentions that apple's teams working on in house displays and camera technology are being moved under the direction of senior vice president of harbor technologies johnny saruji apple has been reportedly working on micro led technology in hopes of developing their own displays for future projects for the displays in the rumored apple. Headset nikai is reporting. That apple is working with their partner. Taiwan semiconductor manufacturing corporation. Tsmc they claim at a secret facility. Taiwan where the pair are developing ultra advanced micro. Ola displays micro. Ola displays are supposed to be thinner. Smaller and more power efficient because they are built directly on the chip wafers rather than using glass substrate. The tiny displays are said to be less than one inch in size and are in the trial production stage at this point. We don't expect to see production until at least twenty twenty three which could actually line up perfectly for apple's a ar and projects. Which now dan reach. Yo is part of so we'll have to see if the fruits of that labor come to fruition. A lot of what's going on right now as we know is just early. Prototyping and apple is looking into it when and if it actually becomes a consumer project product is you know a few years off at this point so we're bound to be hearing about these rumors for a little while longer. We're just gonna have to wait and see what comes of all of it. There is a whole lot of stuff happening apple tv plus news this week including apple adding some new family. Friendly titles apple has ordered another series from sinking ship. Entertainment who currently produces apples. Daytime emmy award winning series ghost rider this time. They're working with jane. The jane goodall institute to create a mixed live action and cgi series called jane. The lead character in each episode is a girl named jane garcia. Who is ten years old and is inspired by her hero. Jane goodall and throughout the episode. She and her friends use their imagination to help protect an endangered animal. Apple has also found a replacement for kiera knightley in their upcoming apple. Tv plus series. The essex serpent. You may remember this. But claire danes is now said to be taking over the role after keira. Knightley stepped away from the project due to concerns about resuming filming during the pandemic. The essex serpent is based on the sarah perry period novel of the same name filming has not yet started on the series in. There is no currently announced release date according to deadline abbas signed a deal for a new sifi courtroom drama film called dolly that will start florence pew pew has starred in films like summer and little women. The story in the scifi courtroom drama is a robotic companion doll who kills her owner but the twist in the series comes in when the robot claims. She's innocent and asks for a lawyer. The film is still under development in and is being written by. Vanessa taylor and drew pearce. Taylor is known for hillbilly in the shape of water and drew pearce's worked on an ironman mission impossible and fast and furious. They also don't currently have a director attached to this film so this one may be a little ways off. Some comments were made this past week. By former netflix's ceo marc randolph. Who told yahu finance that. He thinks apple needs to step it up if they plan to compete in the streaming marketplace basically. He's been alluding to the fact there. He alluded to the fact rather than apple doesn't have a lot of content currently and they don't seem to be investing as much in content. He c- he sort of feels like they've been extending and offering their free trials in that. If they refocused some of those efforts on content they could do a better job he said quote. It's really a war of who who's prepared to make the content and he feels like netflix's doing a great job of that along with disney plus and he noted that currently apple has the highest churn rate of out out of all services meaning that they're running through subscribers You know who come onto the service and then move away from the service so they're not basically keeping subscribers on the service. I'm not really sure. I could argue straight out a lot of the statements that he's making. I would assume that the industry numbers are showing high churn rates for apple subscribers. Obviously apple has been extending their free service and free subscriptions so that is part of their current strategy and yeah they don't have the high number of titles compared to some of their competitors but as i've commented on in the past on this show i think apple's quality over quantity is going to help them out in the long run. I think it's gonna take them a while to sort of build up the content. But i think they are really positioning themselves in a different place. There are also currently the church. Cheapest streaming service that i know about in terms of their five or four nine. Us per month subscription service rate. So i really think they are looking at it a little bit differently. And i've come in on this in the past and i'd love to get any of your thoughts on this but i i sort of feel like they're not necessarily playing the same game and i don't think they really need to. I don't think they are looking to compete with net flicks or disney plus. Maybe in the long run. But i don't think in the short term. I think they're looking at building up a really good staple of quality content and exclusives. And frankly they are stepping up quite a bit if you've been paying attention to last few episodes including this one. We've talked a lot about a lot of the new shows that are coming up. Apple continues to pick up a lot of amis in projects and they have a lot of their second seasons starting for a lot of they're very popular shows and really one. That's coming down the pipe. This year is the foundation series. And that's looking to be pretty epic. As a matter of fact we heard this week. That foundation might even be the biggest series apple has done yet and could be a huge hit. It's coming in the fall of twenty twenty one and we're now hearing that the show. Based on the isaac asimov novels could have as many as eighty episodes and some are even calling it. A game of thrones level so if apple can pull that off that may pull in a lot of subscribers of course. That's a really big. If at this point but the content certainly is there the star power certainly as there. So we'll have to wait and see on that one but there are even more amazing and upcoming projects that we heard about this past week. According to the hollywood reporter apple is signed a multi year deal with sky dance animation this will include the development of both original tv series and films for apple tv plus they actually already have two films in development film called luck and one called spellbound both were originally set to be released in. Twenty twenty two is about a young girl who must break a spell tonight. Her divided kingdom and the lock is about the unluckiest girl in the world who stumbles upon the world of good and bad luck and meets magical creatures along the way jane fonda is actually going to be one of those magical creatures. She's gonna voice. Dragon called clute in the film. So again big star power behind a lot of apples films. Oh and by the way both these films are being produced by former head of pixar. John lasseter who also serves as guidances head of animation. So some big names and big talent coming to the service. As far as the tv series apple has ordered two seasons of a show called the search for one law. This is based on a book series of the same name by the author. Tony di terlizzi apple gave. I looks in release states at some of their new upcoming series. Some of the more. Immediate stuff in the pipeline. They're going to have a dark comedy. Called physical set in san diego in the eighties. Starring rose byrne. That's going to be out this summer. They also featured their stephen king thriller called lychees story which is based on a novel by the same name. That's going to start julianne moore and clive owen. And they have an upcoming musical comedy series called schmidt geduhn with cecily strong and keegan michael key which is a musical comedy parody of musicals from the nineteen forties apples. The mosquito coast based on the paul throw book by the same name will premiere. On april thirtieth. The series will star. Justin throw melissa. George logan polish and gabrielle. Bateman interesting thing here. I noticed justin throw had the same name as paul. Throw the author of the book was curious and looked it up and he's actually the authors nephew couple of second seasons are also on the way the second season of mythic quest one of my favorite apple. Tv shows will be out on may seventh and season to ted. Laso we now know will becoming along this summer along with the second seasons of central park home before dark the morning show and truth be told and then finally the second season of see is going to be actually happening this fall along again with the release of the foundation series so lots of great stuff coming apple tv. They continue to build out that catalog. So i'm going to actually sort of disagree with he former head of net the former ceo of net flicks. I think apple is doing a great job. i think it's going to be a slow buildup of content. And i think they're gonna make a pretty big impact in the long run at least in the apple space in the apple. Way you know. Sort of niche. And i think it's okay to be mitch and i think apple will do just fine because again. They're not relying on their tb service as the thing. That's you know propping up the company they have iphones they have ipads. They have max. There well diversified this is just expansion of their services business. Obviously they want to grow that. I think they will grow it over time. And it's really too early to tell. I think what the future of tv pluses will be around five years from now. I kind of think it might. And i think it's gonna look very different than it looks today and i think if you look at something like apple music you can kind of see how apple takes an approach to these things so i think they're going to be okay in the long run we will have to wait and see one other little bit of apple tv plus related news. This week that i thought was very interesting. The apple tv app is now available on google tv. Some sort of weird inception going on there. But we know apple's been trying to roll out the apple tv app to more and more platforms so you can now get apple. Tv on your google tv through chromecast. Are we really ready for foldable. Iphones i think foldable phones have not really taken off yet. Could apple be the company that makes it a consumer product. They've done it before for different devices so it gets. It's not out of the question. But i asked this question before on the show. Do we really want foldable iphones whether we want them or not. It does look like apple may be working on the technology. We've been hearing rumors about them for a while and this week once again. Youtuber jon. Prosser continues to deliver information from his apple. Birdies about work on foldable iphones. He's saying this time that all the designs are in early prototyping stages stages rather but it looks like at least one design might be making a bigger impact with apple's design team. They've done designs with both book. Fold in Shuffled designs but according to prosser the clam shell designed seems to be the winner. At least for right now. Digitimes has reported that apple is working with. lg display on foldable. Oh led panels for the devices but in the past. We've also heard that apple has been working with samsung to provide panels as well again remember. These are early prototyping stages so apple could be ordering panels from multiple suppliers. Just try out different designs and different materials it. They probably haven't settled on any one manufacturer and it's very likely as we've seen in the past that they could end up going with both. There's also signs. That apple may intend for their foldable to be more consumer focused than pro focused which is very interesting because you would think they would release something like this in their higher end designs but john. That apple is looking at a design that would have fun colors and would be quote not as serious or polished as their pro designs so that could be an interesting route as well and maybe they're doing it because you know one of the materials you're going to have to go with with. Foldable is a plastic display versus. A glass one. So we'd heard rumors to that they were working on. Maybe more like hinge designs that could use potentially glass displays. But it sounds like at least for this phone. We're hearing about right now. It's a little bit different design. There's also another rumor that a foldable iphone might also finally bring about the apple pencil and apple pencil support for the iphone. I guess the idea here. Is that with a foldable phone. You could have something more along. The size of an ipad mini tablet sized device. That would then would fold up and become more compact. So if you're going to have that kind of tablet makes a little more sense to maybe have some pencil support. As far as when. We might see this thing i would say. Don't expect anything anytime soon. Again at this point apple seems to just be really working through ideas and testing out the concept so at this point. We really don't know when we'll actually see or if we'll ever see a foldable iphone from apple and just because there's not a lot of demand for a product or a lot of interest in one it doesn't necessarily mean that apple won't actually create one in that seems to be being exemplified by the iphone twelve. Many there are a lot of folks in the matt kass community. Who really wanted to see apple. Do a smaller version of a flagship phone and this year it was pretty exciting because we got it in the form of the iphone. Twelve many well. It's looking like that iphone. Twelve many may not be selling that many units. We had been hearing about this for a while Ever since the release really but new research from counterpoint research seems to indicate that the iphone twelve mini has only accounted for about five percent of all iphone sales in twenty twenty so basically it seems like more people just want larger phones. There's also some indication that because of the pandemic and more people using their devices at home And as alternate devices. They don't really need something as portable so they're perfectly happy to have a larger device to work off of When they're at their house a. J. p. morgan analysts speculated. That apple actually may even stop production on the iphone twelve mini in the second quarter of this year But don't worry that doesn't mean they're going to stop it or even developing it. It just means that they are planning to continue to sell through the stock that they've already built up but we are already hearing rumors that when the iphone thirteen comes out there probably will still be a mini version. So apple willing to kind of again service. A more niche market for some of their products. They're probably just going to adjust the supply chain and the number of devices that they make relative to demand. We're also hearing this week. That apple may be working on another mag safe accessory for the iphone twelve this time a battery attachment so they don't have a battery case for the iphone. Twelve book what we might get is a mag safe accessory. There's reportedly at least one version. That's rumored to have kind of a white rubber case in. It's interesting because some of the leaked images. Or i guess probably more rendered based on the rumour images look like just the bump that's on the classic apple battery cases but just the bump part so it's like a little rubber bump in would attach the at magsi now. Supposedly they've been having some Software development issues with the new accessory. So that could delay its launch. We don't have any word on when it will launch but it could also eventually just kill the product as well. Something we've seen before with accessories. Like the airpower wireless charging mat and it probably won't surprise you to know that we are now. Starting to hear rumors about the iphone thirteen. The iphone expected. Come out in twenty. Twenty one and one of the rumors is it might not even be called iphone. Thirteen apple could use this year to finally changed the naming convention. Don't really know what it would be. But they could go more with just straight up iphone. iphone pro iphone. Max iphone mini whatever. It might be and just dropped the number scheme altogether but it is expected to be an s year in terms of features so they could also go with the iphone. Twelve naming convention. But it's not really indian. Clear what they're going to do. The design is likely not going to be changing very much. So we mostly expect a specification bump in minor camera improvements so that would be an update to the processor. We are hearing a few other rumors that there would be a more refined matte finish on the back. Something that's a little more Texture is in griffey something easier to hold onto. There's also some rumors for for some new photography features including portrait mode for video and an astro photography feature. That would help you take night. Images of the stars probably something. You're going to have to use with a tripod. I would imagine for now. Apple is expected to keep the same models in sizes as the current lineup including as we alluded to earlier the mini size. So you're going to have the five point. Four the to six point ones in both the non pro and pro versions and the larger six point. Seven inch iphone pro max size and well the rumors out there right now seem to be pointing to this s year. Sort of iphone thirteen design. There are still some features that would consider maybe a little bit bigger than an s year. That are being rumored about one of them could be the removal of the lightning port. And we've heard about in the past Definitely not a certainty. But that could be going away in favor of. Just all of the wireless connectivity We may also be getting the return of touch. Id in the form of an under display sensor in development apples supposedly testing. I think that's going to have to be a really good version of that to date. We haven't had anybody really make a very secure version of the under display sensor but we have been hearing apple working on. That apple has been working toward that. It's something they probably would like to incorporate at some point in might be something that would be exclusive to the proline whether or not that happens this year or not. We'll have to wait and see and another big rumor. Right now is that they could have an always on display just like the apple watch. Basically it would offer kind of limited functionality. A toned down version of the lock screen as they're calling it and that's quote unquote toned down What exactly that means is not one hundred percent clear. But you'd have the time on there and your battery. Notifications would probably hey be handled a little bit differently than they are. Currently so there would be some tweaks there. I would also assume and this was an in any of the rumors but it to me just makes logical sense that apple would leverage and make use of the ambient light sensors on the phone so that it will only be always on when it's not in your pocket or maybe not face down on a table. Because why would you need to have the display on using a battery. If it's completely in your pocket. So i know the i understand the need an always on display on something like an apple watch. I'm not so certain especially if you can get the wake-up time down that you really need always on on a phone but hey the rumors are out there. Something they say is coming so we'll have to wait and see on that another thing that will becoming eventually that's also Being talked about this week mainly because apple is hiring. some engineers is a six g So we barely have five g out of the gate but we're already talking about sixty or at least apples already looking to hire engineers that can help them develop their six g technologies. We know that apple has been kind of on a mission to bring in house design for cellular modems. So that's probably what they're doing there. But don't expect to see six g in an iphone anytime soon. Apple is just gearing up internally but were not expected to see six. Gm the cellular networks until at least twenty thirty. So it's going to be five g designs for a while and it's gonna take a while for a lot of folks. just get on the five g bandwagon. Obviously iphone twelve has done a lot this year for apple in moving iphones to five g. and expect to the iphone thirteen to continue that effort. Have a little bit of apple cart news this week. At least in the form of apple's self driving vehicle stats apple self. Driving vehicles in california have logged twice the mileage in twenty twenty that they did in two thousand nineteen not only that they did a little bit better in terms of performance. What apple sort of monitors are really the state of california monitors with self driving. Vehicle testing is disengagement and mileage reports. The dmv says that apple's test cars traveled a total of eighteen thousand eight hundred and five miles this past year. With one hundred and thirty disengagements that's disengagement every one hundred and forty four point. Six miles basically disengagement means. That's when a human has to take over for the self driving vehicle itself Apple may still have a ways to go though. Because they're disengagement rate was six point nine one disengagements per one thousand miles some of their self-driving competitor's Folks like waymo in cruise. By comparison they reported only one disengagement every twelve thousand miles. So you know apple obviously still developing their systems still working on it. The good news is there were not any collisions in twenty twenty while there was one in twenty nineteen so things are improving apple's getting their system down and obviously there are ways off on putting a vehicle on the road as we've talked about but they had been putting together a list of partners and we know that bloomberg now is saying that list continues to grow in. It's not really clear at this point. Who apple is going to go with but ever since the supposed fall out with hyundai kia rumors about who apple is going to join with to roll out. Their project have been really rampant. Foxconn is a possibility as they're working on solid state batteries and they've showed off. Actually in electric vehicle chassis and software platform last year. Also we're hearing about on the ontario candidates mag na They've been on apple's shortlist for a few years now and they work with higher end partners like bmw and land rover and speculation has been that the apple car would target the premium end of the market. So that could be a possibility. As well less likely partner could potentially be nissan. Although nissan has come out publicly and said that they are not working with apple. It sounds like maybe they were in early. Talks at some point but those fell out and honestly if you look at the rumors around apple car in potential partners even though at this point it looks like hyundai and kia are out of the mix. They could come back at some point again. We're very early stages on this apple. This is a developing project for them whether or not it moves forward or becomes a commercial product or something else. We really just don't know at this point. We did what we really know at. This point is that apple definitely has an interest in developing electric and self driving vehicle technology. Where that will come out in the grand scheme of things as you can tell by all the discussions. We've had here on the mac. Gas is just you know speculation and everything apple rumor related as you know is speculation until apple announces it. It's not a product so it's fun to talk about. It's fun to see these numbers. It's good to know that apple is making improvements with their self driving vehicle testing in those sorts of things. But you know when when. I'm actually sitting in driving an apple car and that's when i'll be more excited about it and you guys all know at least those of you have been listening to the podcast for while you might theories on this. I still think apple ultimately comes out with a car a service and gets us away from actually buying electric vehicle so we just subscribe to a service from apple and When we need a car we use our iphone or apple watcher. Maybe even our vr ar glasses to call one up and just use it and it's almost like a ridesharing service but without a driver i think it could be an amazing thing and i think gets maybe a wave of the future and if anybody can pull something like that off i think apple ultimately could you know five ten years from now so we'll have to wait and see that's my theory. I'd love to know what you think about all this. You know d. Do you think apple. Doing a car is a good thing. Is this the next place. they should be taking. Their business is a car is a service. Good thing or am i crazy. Let me know shoot me. An email sent me audio comment. Mac cast at g mail dot com moving back to products that could or may come sooner than later We're hearing more this week about airtags again. We've heard it all before in time. Remembering right this source has told us airtags are coming a few times but you know back to our friend jon prosser from youtube. He's claiming on his youtube channel. That apple will announce airtags in the next month. He said it in the past and he said i think before that so you know. Take it with a grain of salt. He has been right on apple rumors but he's also been wrong on a few. You know if you say it enough eventually. It probably will be right. Maybe that's the way to put it. But he's saying hey airtags are coming. He's also saying they're going to have an event with new ipad pro models. That's another thing we've been hearing about likely. The event would be an ipad pro event and airtags would be just a second part of that in case you don't remember what airtags are these our apples tags that you can put on track tracking tags. So like tile trackers. You could put on your devices. It would integrate with the find my app and help you find things like your keys or potentially your wallet. Anything that it would be attached to these little tags would be attached to and we're hearing that they're going to be a little battery powered tags. They might even be available in a couple different sizes those sorts of things. So we've been hearing about this for a while. Apple was supposed to announce them at various events. It's never really happened. seeming like they've been having troubles developing this this product it's supposed to again integrate with The ultra wideband technology. They have in some of the new iphones. So we'll have to wait and see but you know this time the prosser saying. Hey there's talk of any further delays It sounds like it's getting ready to roll. So maybe it will. Maybe it will be here. Maybe it won't of people airtags though and so. Hopefully it'll happen. I do hope it'll happen eventually Will it happen. You know in the next month or so we. We will have to wait and see as far as what's going to happen with the ipad. We're not expecting any revolutionary changes to the ipad pro lineup. It will be mostly evolutionary again. Think new processors the one big change. That might happen is a switch. Too many led backlighting. We've been hearing about that for a while. Apple wanting to bring that to the ipad pros i in it could only come to the higher end. Twelve point nine inch model and not the eleven inch model. But we will have to wait and see. We'll have to wait and see. If apple will have an event. There were some sources that were pointing to a possible event happening on march sixteenth. That's looking not very likely especially given the fact that our friend mark gurman over at bloomberg has come out and said no there is no march sixteen sixteen event and he is probably the person who most accurately has his finger on the pulse of. What's going on inside apple He's the one that i personally would trust a little bit more. That doesn't mean they're apple's not having a march event just that it's not happening on the sixteenth so we'll have to wait and see again when apple says out announcements That's when we'll know they're actually having their next event and it was just inevitable and probably should not be surprising to anyone but this week we're hearing about the first malware that is native to apple's new apple silicon 'em one machines security researcher. Patrick wardle found an emily native version of the pirate adware. The variant he discovered is called. Go search twenty two and it disguises itself as a safari extension not long after that security firm red canary also found a second piece of malware. That they're calling civil silver sparrow that also ran on ran natively. Excuse me on. 'em when machines that silver sparrow takes advantage of the mac. Os installer javascript. Api to execute suspicious commands right now. It doesn't appear to do anything but it could sit there waiting for kind of command and control to come later so a couple of Pieces of maur. These were existing pieces of maur. That's something to to know about so they've been in. The mac communities are variants new versions of them. Basically what's happening here is just like any other app. The male malware writers are taking their software and compiling it natively to run native on apple. Silicon so You know it. It's not surprising. This is happening We have malware on the mac people know about it And just as always. If you're worried about it do all the things that you should be doing to protect yourself. Don't click on suspicious links don't Run applications that you don't know where they came from. Make sure you're getting apps from trusted developers. Use the app store. Keep your gatekeeper controls on in mac. Os and Being safe out there you should be totally fine. So the only thing of note here is that yet. They are starting to compile malware to run natively natively on apple silica and again it was only a matter of time and then finally in the news for this week. We allegedly got our first. Look at the rumored airpods three the next generation airpods images were posted by fifty two audio and they claimed show the next generation version of apple's airpods. Now it's worth noting that the same site has shared faked airpods third generation images in the past. So we're gonna take this with a grain of salt but this these images actually seemed to match some of the rumors we've heard in the past about what the next designs might look like so they have the kind of little bit wider little little bit narrower case More looking like the airpods pro case they also have the shorter stems on the airpods but no silicone tips and They do have flat force sensor control services like the airpods pro. So that's kind of what we're expecting. They're not going to have the active noise cancellation technology. That's going to be reserved for the pro product but we are hearing that. They're likely going to have spatial audio support. So really again. A generational increase in terms of the airpods. A little bit. You know nicer design little bit smaller little bit more compact in terms of the case and bringing some of the advanced features but not all of them keeping them separate from the airpods pro so these could be real images i would imagine. 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Thank you to audible for their support of the show on the last episode of the mac cast a question came up that i get asked more than you would more than you think. Or maybe not more than you would think it comes up quite a bit and it has to do with amax raped. So you buy an i mac. It's got this great built in apple display and you use it for a few years and then maybe you get ready to upgrade right. Use it for maybe five years. Let's say and you go upgrade your mac. And now you've got a new mac man you've got this old. I mak sitting off to the side. Maybe maybe maybe handed down but maybe you just have it sitting around. And it's got this gorgeous display in it and you're like hey. I could use a second display for my mac. It'd be great if i could just repurpose that display. That's in the i mac. Well apple's not doesn't really make that easy to do they did on a couple models but you can't just take current model. I mac plug it into another mac and use it as a display. And so that was the question is like how can i use this as a second display and i kind of gave some suggestions but i also threw it out to those of you in the community and One solution that was sent to me was sent by niff- this past week via email and native reminded me about a company called astro pad and astra pad has a really cool thing called the lana display. It's an eighty dollar. Us hardware dongo that lets you connect the main mac that you have to another device to use that wireless wirelessly as a display. I think also use it over usb and so like the typical application for this would be Using an ipad as a second. Display for your mac and then being able to use your apple pencil with say something like photoshop to actually use it almost like a welcome tablet And to actually draw rate inside photoshop and so that's like a really cool application. And the reason they use the dongle as they set up a proprietary wireless network. It's for performance. So you have less latency and all that sort of thing but a side feature of this or another feature of this little dongle is that you can connect mac to mac over ethernet or thunderbolt with the strong plugged in and technically create like a network connection. And that'll run at network speeds. And that will allow you to actually use your mac as a second display so you can actually use it for this application as well and i didn't know that about the product so this is the kind of thing that is great about the matt kass community as we throw these questions out there and people come back with solutions. Is it as good as just being able to plug it in. I in as a thunderbolt display something like that. I don't really know. I haven't really tried it myself. But it is a solution that may be. You can look into if that's what you're looking to do. And it seems like a pretty solid wanted. I would imagine that it works pretty well. So we're checking out. I will have a link to it in the show notes. That matt cast calm. And thank you for sending that one in another thing. We've been talking about recently. On the mac cast is networking Specifically wireless networking. I had mentioned that you know. I've had an airport extreme station for many many years. Like many of you do as well and now that i'm working from home and my kids are home to in school. In marin zuma day a lot of us our using a lot of bandwidth and just a lot of network traffic. I mean we were doing that before with streaming and all the other things we're doing but it's only been amplified and add to that the fact that i've got a million homekit devices and pretty much. Everything you buy nowadays connects to your wireless network in some sort of way at least if it's got a computer chip in it and you know that includes things like appliances in garage door openers. And all kinds of stuff and it's only gonna get worse. So i'm saturating. I wireless network with devices and i just felt like the technology and Of the era that the airport extreme base station was in. This was just what wasn't keeping up. It was doing but we were having issues and so i decided to upgrade to a new wifi six system from orbi mesh based system something that can just handle and manage the traffic in a little bit more modern way and so it's been working out really really great for me. Many others in our community have said hey have switched to a mesh system. Be it in the orbi as net gear system. They've got other systems like eero. There are lots of great options out there but mesh isn't the only way to go either for improving your network in. I had looked at other things. Like routers and i know many of you have router suggestions as well as a matter of fact this week david wrote in a were actually sent in audio comment in. Here's what he had. Si- adam dave here longtime listener since itunes four dot nine. If you can believe you've been talking about your wife upgrading experience. And i wanted to share mine like you. Everyone is working in schooling from home in the process. I found a dead zone where we set up my daughter for her school and still some devices just work a little slower in other areas around the house. I did have a spare airport. Extreme ethan at drop point where i could make it work better for my daughter but still my previous roger was over six years old and i had added many new devices sense then it was time like many geeks. My first thought was mash. It's advertised and seems like next genentech. I even have that spot where it is wired for an eastern back haul. That's from rush going. On the advice of the wire cutter. I opted for a single wifi. Six writer to save money since my house isn't large or complex with difficult building materials. It's just an average two story colonial with about two thousand square feet plus a basement. I picked up a mid range. Eisuke x fifty eight you for around one hundred and sixty dollars and it works great. I've noticed speed improvements in the slow areas. It has a good web web interface and app with parental controls. I can renamed devices. So i can. I d them later. I also added open source firmware for more options and it is blessed by sue so it doesn't feel too risky it also has built. Dns options including cloudplayer. Google and guard. What caught my attention about ace use. Is that built in is mesh expansion within software. It is very easy to add routers to expand the network down the road overall. I'm very happy and if your listeners wanna save some money and they don't have a large home or complicated for plan they may want to consider just one wi fi router instead of going mesh. Those are just my thoughts. Thanks for the many years of the mccafe david. Thank you for sending in that comment. And i wholeheartedly agree also by the way. Yeah thanks for listening. Since i tunes four point nine that was a that was a big bump. That data came out for for the podcast. I think i had about five thousand five hundred listeners. back then before the launch of four dot nine. I think it jumped to about three thousand in a single day and has climbed from there. Obviously we have a big community now but thanks for being part of that part of that wave. That's really really cool. You've been listening to that long but again getting back to your comment. I wholeheartedly agree that there are a lot of great. Just straight up router options out there. The acs one sounds like it's very very nice. No much about them But they definitely there's definitely great options out there both from like net gear and a seuss and You know any of the well-known wireless router companies are making some really great options at a bunch of various price points. And i think what your comment really illustrated most to me is reminding folks that you really need to kind of sas. What's your current wireless situation and it sounds like david. That's exactly what you did. You looked at what are my needs. What's my setup. House my house. And what's a system that i can get into at the price point that i want in something that can grow with me right. you get an upgrade and really when you're looking at a system like it sounds like you were and i was where it's you know several years old five six maybe even older six years older Almost anything is going to be a great upgrade. right This technology as we know develops very very quickly and more modern stuff is just better and you don't have to spend a ton of money to even necessarily get an improvement so i think that was a great reminder and i'm gonna throw it out to the community too because again there's so many options out there And finding kind of the best ones in the ones that play a specially with apple in the apple ecosystem can be a little bit tricky. So if you've recently update upgraded your wireless network and you have a product that you really really like. And you'd like to share it with our community. I welcome your emails and your audio comments. A great little audio review. Two three minutes would be awesome. We can share that with the community and plan on future episodes. If you'd like to do that just shoot those audio comments to mac cast gmail.com and again. Thank you david for Continuing this this conversation and bringing up that topic next up this week. I did receive a couple of emails this week. with questions about email specifically the mail application in mac os. I thought we tackle those next starting with an email from andrew who wrote in to note that he noticed the ability to jump to the top of the inbox by double clicking at the top of the list was not working for him as a feature in mail in mac. Os big sur This is a feature that works with a lot of apps in the list view in ios simply tapping the top of the screen Near the clock near the time will actually scroll you to the top of the page or right to the top of the list in case you didn't know that and with mac os becoming more. I o s like you would think this feature would naturally kinda work in mac os mail. I don't remember ever actually working So i don't. I don't know andrew if that was something that was working in a certain version of mac. Os in now isn't in big sur. I have a feeling more that you're just referring to the fact that it didn't make kind of that transition from ios tumaco s. But i thought you know there are some ways mac. Os mail where you can jump to the top of the list. There's a couple of handy keyboard shortcuts that may help you out with navigating mail so The first one is when you're in the list view if you hit command and the up arrow that will actually jump right to the top of the list and you can do the opposite as well. Command option in the down arrow on your keyboard will jump to the bottom. You can also use the function key So function left will jump home. I think that axes the home button if you have an extended keyboard of course if you have extended keyboard you could use the home key in the end key in the page key and page down keys But if you use function left arrow that goes home. And i think function right arrow goes down to the end. I think is function up and down for the page. A page up and page down options but it can try those keyboard shortcuts. A couple of other keyboard shortcuts. You might find handy when navigating mac os mail Pulling the command key down and using the numbers one through five will jump to your favourite inboxes so for example if you type command one that typically is your universal inboxes folder or your. Inbox is favorite. So you can jump to the inbox. I think in my mac meal it it will really depend on how you've ordered these things but My favorites if i want to jump to my sent mail box that is number. Three of hit command three. It will go to the all sent in. Inboxes serve or folder. I don't know if you call those folders mail mailbox. I guess Basically all of my sent me all. I can access by just hitting command three. So that's really handy Another handy keyboard shortcut is you can use the tab key to jump between the various panels in your inbox so you can go from the mailbox list to the mail list to the message pain to the search box. And then once you've tabbed over to any one of those lists of course you can then use your arrow keys to just simply navigate up and down through the list of emails. Are the list of mailboxes. What have you. So you can kinda completely navigate with your keyboard and then i also received an email from listener steve asking about. Hey how do. I sort sub folders in mac. Os mohave and This would be true for mugabe and later. He said quote back in previous versions of mac. os. I had a folder with a ton of sub folders and to sort the sub folders i would click to close the folder in them when you clicked. Open it again. The sub folder would be sorted in newer versions of macro asked this work and again as far as i know the mail folders of a mailboxes in mail are sorted manually and they stay in the order that you put them in so I think naturally when you're adding new folders i believe they go in or new mailboxes. I think they go in an alphabetical order. But you can of course click and drag them in the sidebar in mail and then when she put them in that order. That's the order that they stay in now. As far as i know. And maybe someone in the community can correct me if i get this wrong but i don't know that there's any way to automatically sort them. I did a little bit of googling searching around to see if there is. Maybe a plug in or something that you could do to be able to do that. There are some kind of cryptic Terminal command line things you might be able to do You might also be able to go in to your. I map at your. Isp service brighter. Whoever provides your mail and do some sorting there. But really in mac mail. There doesn't seem to be an automatic way to sort your mailboxes. So you just mainly move them around. You can put them in whatever order you want. And then they should stay in that order. So hopefully stephen andrew. Those tips and tricks help you out. I'm sure the community has other handy keyboard shortcuts tips for using mac mail. If you do please send those in. Mac cast g mail dot com another email question. That comes up quite often on the show that we haven't covered in a while is the subject of e mail signatures and this time keno wrote to note another possible change in mac. Os big sur with regard to adding links to images in e mail signatures. He says quote the possibility to create a hyperlink from an image in apple. Mail signatures seems to have not sure when that option disappeared. Them personally I keano haven't done this before but definitely tried it. When you sent in your email in macos big sur and for sure when you're creating a signature What you normally do is you can add that link or you can put A lincoln there by selecting the taxed. And then so. When you go to i guess i should back up the first place. Where you edit your signatures. If you go into male ego into preferences under signatures you can add signatures for your various mailboxes. The various mail accounts. And then when you're in there In adding a signature you can Within the tax you can select the text and you can use the format menus to kind of style the taxed in a pretty basic way So you can select the taxed and you can go under the edit menu and you can add a link and that works great you can also drag images into your signatures if you'd like to add them image to it but what keno is noting is that you can't then select that image and apply a link to it so say you were trying to do a corporate signature and you wanted to throw your logo in there and maybe wanted to have that logo link to your company website. That doesn't seem possible. I don't know if it was possible in prior versions. But it's definitely not working or not something that i can figure out how to do or keno can figure out how to do in mac. Os big sur. And i think this comes back to what. I considered to be a bigger problem with signatures in mac. Os mail and something. That's been around for a long long time. And that is. I think apple has made it pretty hard to put anything in a signature than basic formatted taxed You can't really do an html signature very easily in mac mail and keno as far as i know as since you can't just use the built in tools for editing a signature in a mac os to kind of hyperlink and image. The only way that i found a really create that sort of thing is to create an html signature Again the the the process is complicated. Gets a little bit harder. Each and every year I have found some pretty great instructions. by a guy named matt connybeare. Hopefully i'm pronouncing his last name correctly. I'll have linked to the show notes. At machias dot com. They were originally written for mac. Os catalina but. I tried them in. They also seem to work for big sur. I'll give you the basic rundown of how you do this. But you'll definitely want to follow his instructions that i linked to in the show notes. So what you're going to do is you're going to write your signature in html using only inline styles and if you do have image links in there you're gonna have to put them up on a hosted server like an ftp server And then linked to them from there but basically write your signature out in basic. Html so you can do hyper links on the images that sort of thing and then what you do. Is you go into the mail. App create a new signature as a placeholder in mail. And just have it be blank and then quit the mail application. And then what you're going to have to do after you quit the mail application is you're going to have to locate that signature from kind of a secret location in the finder. And till you go to your home folder you'll under library in Macos big sur. I think the next folder is the eight in then. There's a folder called mail data and then inside that you'll find signatures and these are the signatures for your local version of mac mail. Now if you're using icloud icloud drive. You might also have to find the signature for icloud drive and at at that one. And that's in your home folder. The library folder inside mobile documents inside com apple mail data v. Four signatures so again. I'll have these this information in the show notes at maquette dot com. You know how to write all of this stuff down or more importantly just used the link in the show notes for that. Great article by matt connybeare But once you get into that folder what you will do. Is you will find and locate that new placeholder signature. Basically open that up in your text editor and then you will paste in your html that you set up That has your humil- signature and what happened to me is in this is kind of the new instruction is you need to then lock that file. So once you save that signature file e actually have to go in the finder in us get info and you actually have to lock that to prevent the mail app from overwriting changes to the signature that you made outside the mail application. I don't know why you have to do this. You didn't have to do this in the past but what it seemed like to me was like when you reopen mail. There's some sort of cash some sort of something that then just tries to write all the changes that you made outside the mail application. And i can't figure that part out Maybe someone in the community knows why that's happening but you didn't do make sure you lock but once you've done that you should be able to open up Again the signature inside. Mac mail from the male preferences and you should be able to see your new html signature now. One thing to be aware of is when you're looking at it in the system preferences your images won't show up but when you actually compose the mail in use the signature in send the signature images showed show up just fine assuming that you have the image paths correct in your html and again those images are hosted on a public server somewhere so need to make sure you do that so all this as a complicated way of saying yeah making html signatures in mac mail. It's tricky. i don't know why it is. I don't know why apple can't make this whole process. Simp- simpler just a simple basic html l. html editor. Would it. But i don't know there you go That said you know. I am a big fan of an. I use the spark email app from real rather than apple's built in a mail application. And that does give you an tim. L. mode for creating editing. Your signature's makes it much much. Simpler applicant feature built in is beyond me. But if you're looking for an alternative I recommend spark there are a bunch of other third party. Email clients out there so might also support. Html signature is a little bit better than apple mail. And you might look into those there some options for you if anybody in the community knows a simpler way to create a really nice e mail signatures in html rich text formats That we don't know about didn't cover here. Let us know about it. Shoot us an email. Mac cast gmail.com. But there you go. There's a couple of the email questions or mac. Os mail questions. I guess. I should say and hopefully found those tips and tricks helpful Next up another thing that i covered a previous episode of the mac cast was apple's upcoming ar and vr glasses projects and we talked a little bit about the disowning in one of the things that came up in that was the fact that Some of the designs look like they have a headband. That is similar in material makeup in an composure. Basically the materials that are being used for Apple's a are vr. Glasses or goggles or whatever they might be are very similar. To a lot of the materials they've been using in some of their current products including the airpods Pro max their their new headphones and also apple watch in terms of like things like the bands so the headband might be some similar materials. And i asked for some feedback on what you thought about apple's upcoming ar vr projects. And i actually received this interesting response from bill. I adam bill here love the show us you were asking thoughts on the new. Vr are classes visor from apple and love the idea. The thinks i'm sure they'll do with it. Three amazing but i recently to touch base on like things like apple watch. I got one for christmas. But i have a lot of allergies and deal with that but supposingly enough. My airpods have no issue with the rubber thing on that. But i have since two rubbers and stretchy and it looks like maybe even metals like aluminum. Nickel the apple. Watch magnets use a lot of aluminum. In the casing. And the magnets use a little bit of nickel. So fortunately i had to send my watch back so with all excited used for a couple of weeks and then setback. Perhaps some of your users have ideas on how they dealt with stuff allergies in the band stretching and maybe any allergic to metals by this is my concern moving for with other projects like glasses as incorporate technology from their other projects. I may miss niece as well. I hope not but Feedback and insights and maybe some users have sent these act as well love the show. Keep up the great work. Hey bill thanks for Sending your feedback. I appreciate your comments. Definitely something that. I had not thought about as being an issue and i'm sorry to hear about your apple watch and it not being able to work out for you because of some of the materials also want to ask. Sounds like you're in a really nice environment. You have some birds or something in the background there. I don't know if you were recording that out on vacation or if you just have a number of pet birds but Nice to nice to hear some natural sounds in an audio comment from someone on that cast so that. That's really cool. So hopefully you're in a beautiful environment. That's kinda what i'm picturing says like. Maybe even your from canada so maybe one of those beautiful areas in canada that I hope to visit some day but yeah definitely materials is in can be an issue for some people. I didn't know this until i got your comment. Apple actually has a really great page in their support website and again a link to this and show nuts cast calm but a basically outlines what materials in the apple watch could cause certain sensitivity issues for people and they definitely call out a nickel. And what's really great about. This article is the kind of point out which materials and where you will find those materials. In the apple. Watch products so specifically for nickel. They note that there is nickel in the stainless steel band. Released buttons on the apple watch series four and later and apple watch s e the stainless steel portions of some of the apple. Watch bands the metallic portions of their air mass bands. And as you noted in the magnets in the watch in bands those have some nickel. Another material is akron lights. Which i'm not super familiar with. But they say that's in the apple watch case the war nylon and melanie's loops the modern buckle and the leather loop contained trace amounts of lights and meth lights from. They'd he's they use for those products and acolytes meth late. are found in many consumer products. That come in contact with the skin. Such as adhesive bandages. So i guess that's material that's in some adhesives and might be in certain bands and in things in the apple watch and then they kind of cover all the various bands things like the stainless steel and leather The flora last summer. That's in the sports band. The braided so luke actually has polyester yarn With stainless steel. The sport loop is woven nylon solo loop is accurate actually silicone and So yeah it goes through all of those various materials One that i found interesting is the nike watch sport loop actually has. Aluminum coated glass beads on pet. Urp e. t. yarn I guess it has some reflective threads in him that has that material so there's a bunch of different materials that i guess may cause allergies for some people in it. Sounds like unfortunately you suffer from from some of those as far as potential solutions. Or or where you might be able to have some work arounds and still be able to have an apple watch There are some cases. I think that you can get that would cover everything but the the the back glass crystal. So i don't know if that's an option for you. I would imagine also you could get some like full wraps Depending upon what that material is obviously hopefully something. You're not sensitive to but you might build the just wrap the entire case in You know a plastic coating or a cover That sort of thing. That may be an option that people use to get around it when it comes to bands There are a lot of third party. Bands that our offer more natural materials that you might not have an allergy or sensitivity to so you could seek out those. I don't know what happens when it comes down to like the clasps and buckles and things like that but maybe something with the delco something like that might not be as bad and you know. Any of the band's. I would imagine that. Don't breathe very well Could be an issue especially if you get kind of moisture or dirt if you live in a hot or humid environment I know i get some skin irritation with my sport band from time to time depending and just making sure that i keep it clean and dry but enough i've been out in the yard working or something that and i've gotten moisture under there. You can mildly irritate my skin. The thing really serious but you know it just happens you've got you know this sort of plastic thing on your wrist and you get a little moisture under there. And that's the way it goes so apple does recommend not wearing them to tight obviously though they need to be snug enough to use some of the health features. So it's it's a delicate balance but keeping it dry making sure after you wash your hands that you may be taken off and and and dry really well under their. Let your skin breathe from time to time. Maybe just take it off and and don't wear it for a little bit. All of those things can help. But definitely you know. Materials are the thing to think about in one thing that i really appreciated was the fact that apple kind of spells out all the materials that are in the product Pretty well in this in this article so you might want to check that out to see you can be familiar with what they're using and We'll throw it out to the community. Maybe folks in the community who have more sensitivities to kind of materials. How are you managing things like apple. Watch things are you just not not buying apple watch is kind of opted out for you or are you finding workarounds in terms of some cases and things like that that we might be able to recommend to bill. Thanks for the email bill and thanks for listening next up received question from scott He wrote in to ask about saving live fotos from massive ages on his mac and this was some then. I hadn't really thought about too much live photos. That's a cool feature in the iphone. When you take a picture it also takes a little video. A couple seconds before a couple of seconds after The image that you're taking in you can play that back on your iphone on your mac you can send that to someone in messages and they can kind of see that life photo and You can receive it but What scott discovered. I didn't really know. Was that exporting them. In any way at least any way that i could figure out or scott could figure out from messages on the mac seems to end up in just creating a static image so i tried to share in. Send it to the photos app on the mac and when it got over two photos it was just a static. Image tried dragging and dropping it onto photos And it was just a static image. I tried just opening it with photos like saving it to my desktop and opening it from photos and justice static image. Nothing i could do on the mac side would make that a live photo. Once i exported it out of the messages app. Now i could save it from my ios device into photos. Just fine in then. When that sinked through my icloud photo library it did show up as a live photo. Interestingly enough air-dropping it from messages on. Irs to the mac resulted also in just a static. Photo so the question here becomes. Is there a way. Is there any way to take a photo alive. Photo that you receive in messages on the mac and send that over into the photos application in a way where it preserves the live photo portion of it. How do you to it. That's what we're asking the community. Because scott asked me. I try to use all my google fu and and testing skills and this time around it failed me so help me matt kass community hugh our only hope if you know atip a trick for this or maybe even just can explain why. This doesn't work on the mac a that would be great. Send your emails audio. Comments to mac cast edgy. Mail dot com. And then the last thing that i have for you. Today is a cool little tip. Something that i discovered by accident on my new homepod mini. Because one i just had need. And i was just curious But then something that i read about this week and thought. Hey that's a really good tip. I should share with the community. Because i discovered it. I read about it now. And so. I'm curious about it. Some others might. I want to know about it as well. And what it is is is that You can set the volume on your home. Pod a pretty easily. By saying hey lady you know Set the volume to and then giving a percentage or hey lady turn the volume up. Returned the volume down whatever you might want to do. And then siri will happily adjust the volume on your home pod but what. I noticed especially with the homepod mini. Was you know. I'd like to have the music volume the media volume at a fairly soft to medium kind of level but when it was at that level i was having a hard time hearing series so and i would ask for information from syria or set a seri- timer or something like that series voice was it felt like softer. It was harder to hear and so turns out. You can actually set series voice volume independently on your home pod from the actual media volume or the speaker volume. So if you simply say hey lady. I'm just insert her name. I'm saying hey lady. I'm just trying not trigger anybody's siri or my siri for that matter. But if you say hey lady change your volume to ten percent or twenty percent. Whatever percentage that will work or you can say hey lady speak at twenty percent or ten percent or fifty percent. Whatever you want it to be. And i didn't know you could give a direct percentage like that. That was what i learned from the tip. That i found in this article what i had tried was i just said hey lady speak softer or speak louder in this case and siri happily said all right i will increase my it will increase my volume and that worked out really really great for me. I think when you say softer or louder i believe it adjusts the volume upper down by ten percent. And again you can Do that for The media volume separately from the siri volume. And if you wanna know what volume siri is currently at can say. Hey lady what's the series volume were. Hey lady what's the volume. If you wanna just know what the current media volume is so. I thought that was some really cool tips. And if you have a home pod and were wondering about that that's how you can set that stuff up but with that. Hey that's gonna do it for this episode of the mac cast. I really appreciate you hanging out hanging out with me Before i leave you. I do wanna takeoka moment and thank my show sponsor smile makers of tex expanders in pdf pen both for mac in irs. You can get more information in details on all of their great software by visiting smile suffered dot com slash podcast bandwidth on the mac. Gas is provided by cachefly. You can find them at c. a. c. h. e. f. l. y. dot com in all advertising on the mac cast is handled by backbeat media. 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Bruce Campbell Returns

Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum

1:28:35 hr | 6 months ago

Bruce Campbell Returns

"You're listening to inside of you with michael rosenbaum. I wanted to voice this week. That was Like the trailer guy the guy that does the trailers inside of us bronchial by spn guy inside he is brought to you by perry Side of you is brought to you. By who else can we do inside us brought to you by. We could just mix it up every week you could. You got a deep bench of impressions you can pull out. Yeah what do they call that. It's a bench. We have on the bench. Okay got the reserves bolton frankly a crappy halloween. I did the halloween. Zoom nights But you know halloween's not the same when you're re sharing pictures from last year or years before on facebook of look. How halloween was all together. Yeah where yeah. I know you like to dress up. Just in general i mean. We had a busy halloween last halloween. We had those multiple parties and it was just the complete opposite this year. You know i. I had to say this part of me that just there's no more fomo You know. I don't feel that's that's a yes i don't have to go to the jennifer's party in burbank and i don't have to go to this the celebrity thing where i'm gonna be uncomfortable and have to take a crap you know so there's a goodness to that and so but then i get you a mostly home so i'm watching these movies with the guys we zoom. I've gotten accustomed used to just you know. Here's what we did. You guys ever want to try this. It's fun you watch a movie with friends over zoom right. So there's ten people on zuma invite everybody they come on and then i go go ten seconds into the evil dead and like it. Does everybody's see or it says technicolor right when it fades to black pause and then i say one two three watch. We play on watch. And we're all watching it and kinda commentating and you know sometimes people from really getting into movie but it's fun to just joke horrendo- hearing my buddy john heater namedrop at juggling show. That was you know so. That's a fun thing to do. So thank you. You're welcome is what i meant. You're welcome thanks. Everybody who attended the stage it last week. We had a great show. If you don't know what it's about I play music and we had an album last year. Now rob dancing my buddy and i. We have an album that we're working on we. Do these live stage. It's once a month the end of every month and it's an it's an event. It's a all my patrons come out. And there's prizes like zooms in we'll dedicate songs and make videos and send them to you and a bunch of good stuff and it's really a lot of fun and it's grown ryan. I have a blast. We do at once a month and you know we get a lot of people. Come out and just delasin. Musical play covers originals Mode let them go to stage dot com and follow me on their if you will if you don't mind it's You just go to michael rosenbaum. He just follow me. Could be a follower. And i can also send you updates and again. Thank you patrons for supporting the podcast as always it's amazing. I always go in message. 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You know anybody out there who just Is going to bitch and moan and complain about things and they don't vote. It's like what are you doing. you don't you. Don't get the bitch. No you vote. You make a difference. Don't vote the odor sucks okay. Vote on a vote. All right well shut up. you know. i want to say anything else other than you know. I started seeing a new therapist and new therapist. Psychiatrist and Really liked the guy and Starting a new thing and figuring stuff out some optimistic so anybody out there who feels like they're you know the world is on the shoulders and they just feel like just weighed down and you're anxious try. I don't know man see a therapist. It really does help you find the right one. It makes it all worth it. It really does go through. Someone's you like i. I went through one guy. John or silently remember his name. I'm sitting there. And he just eating subway sandwich and he has. A sox swung socks and eating a subway. And as. i'm sorry. I'm just hungry. You mind if i eat ago not at all. I just could not stop focusing on the sky and his dirty socks in a subway sandwich. And like i. this is our last session. This is the last session. I just watched texas chainsaw massacre again and md bihar and boy. Those those are fun. Texas really is frigging. If you haven't seen. I'm not going to see the you won't see that The title man. Yeah yeah yep now. It's it's creepy. I you know. I'm looking right now. Cross from me as an evil dead poster. Signed by bruce campbell who is our guest today and loses money buddy of mine. He was on a show that i was released on the Let me go. The show never got picked up but they still were like. Hey we got picked up for five episodes but we gotta let you go. They want to Recast the part and You know whatever revamp. The character and i was like. Oh and bruce in the show bruce's of the first one that text me goes. Hey bod hope you're well this show does know what the hell it is anyway and i doubt as can even air so you probably dodged a bullet. Then i got -em pastor. She you know but he was so kind and then we ended up getting high one night and riding bikes round the reservoir and You would just stayed in god. Dak is get your ass out here. You know him and his girl or in oregon there in oregon wherever he talks about it. I think deepen no reception in oregon no reception oregon just fyi. So if it's a little glitchy on the video yeah yeah stick with it though. It was pretty good right. Oh it's great. Yeah it's awesome. I mean listening is fine listeners. But watching not fine watchings fine too i think watch i think he's. I think he's watching bruce. He's just so animated. You had to watch him. If you're listening you gotta go back and watch. Because he's he's just such a character he brings out a president at the end that you gotta see his a little thing. He's got a story about. Oh yeah is that he does that he does so. Watch it We've got a big win next week to announce guys the justice league unlimited reunion. That's me in the unlimited cast If you liked the animated series but it's just a bunch of great actors. And i wrote a little funny script about batman and flash and they'll go to the mall and They acted out there all good sports and they acted out and they also got personal. Couple them my car. Lumley lost his wife. One point george talks about losing his father and So it's a great episode coming up. Please subscribe by the way if you haven't subscribed inside of you at inside of you. Podcast on instagram facebook and at inside a you pod on twitter it really helps I see the numbers going up and tell your friends e mail them and just continue to do the show and hopefully more and more people listen. And i'm glad you do and I hope you enjoy this one. This is one of my good buddies. And thanks for signing the poster brucie rosie pants. Stay groovy or try. Ash bruce campbell. Let's get inside of bruce campbell. It's my paw listening to inside of you with michael rose inside of you with michael. Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. How are you bud. You look good. Whatever oregon nine of the great state of oregon you love oregon. You don't want pictures. I have that you've sent me saying jealous. We'll get your ass up here in. You won't be jealous anymore. You'll understand the need. Oregon oregon by the way is not oregon. Second or gun. I go a foreigner. So for some reason i thought of the band. No it's oregon oregon oregon. Do you think that you need oregon at this juncture in your life to escape the demons of this business. No i haven't to escape the demons of horrible viruses that are circling the globe. The weird thing is i was going to sell. I was about to dump this place on the mountaintop. I got grandbabies. in you. Know in your fine state of california and we're going to get closer to home and then we realized. Nah i think we're gonna have. We're gonna keep a little haven for it baby where they can go and hide from the big bed city so I sell in this place. Never now really rule. Y'all it was just by property. You you know when i talked to you we went to eat it. Paci restaurant in the up in we sat there. And i remember you telling me something. 'cause i don't think if you talked about on the podcast last time but you talk about the third act. Your life is an axe and remember descriptive about that. Yeah tell me about pandemic just pushed it over the klaff. It just pushed me fully. End act three You know the idea was i did. The rat race is an actor for a long time. Worked for all these phone companies. Same with you. we'd tourtelot we've done all kinds of stuff end you sense yourself in. This is only speaking for myself not the owner that you are always reinventing yourself. I found myself entering a rinse and repeat phase of my life and career. Renton another brinson. Repeat you know. Meaning you're going to wash your hair the same way again. rents Repeated the next day and so conventions started to be very similar ubiquitous and working on certain types of tv shows certain types of entertainment became boring am kind of annoying and television was exciting and new back in the day. And i'm sure there's a great staff but the tv grind the last tv series. I did ask versus evil dead I was like okay. I think i need to like quit. I think i need to quit. I need to go suck my thumb on a mountain top somewhere. Because i i just burned myself up too late of age. I was like. I do a show on tv. Shine me and you know we ground out three seasons and You know i left a piece of my soul there and you still. We have a lot of control. But you still don't have the control that that i have in act three act three. It's my own company artan media But now my first book cool side of my pillow is a book avesta. And you go. Oh snores ville man. And that's cool but it's it's my book If it blows it's me. I'm i'm the guy and as a result of it does okay. I'll reap rewards. So i also came to horrible realization during this pandemic break. The first big lockdown period. I was like wait a minute. Movies are too expensive. I can't. I can't the backyard i need. I need to do stuff. I could literally do in my backyard so my to do list is a is a new book in cosby anything to write it in. I've written a couple of screenplays. And now i'm doing First comedy album called the lost recordings. I hang on your first of all your glitch in a little bit. Your your voice is fine which is fine but your body's your faces glitches a little bit like your little amount job. I can call you back but you know is that that's This is about as this kind of what we get up here. that's it. I think we should stay. Well now. you've now. Your eyes are closed but well hold on hold on. I wonder if you could do this for meeting. All believed isn't don. You're acting isn't denser. First of all you've written other books you said this was your first buck. What are you saying is your first book. It's self publishing. It's my book. It's i i'm not trying to please publisher of not. There's no tour toured my brains out. The last book that i did and it was fine. It was a good experience. But it's those days are kind of in the rear view mirror in bookstores are weird. They're they're they're either this big. You know there's nowhere for even people to line up. Is it supposed stamp in a strip mall. They're out out the front and down the street and you go okay. That's not gotten over the charm of that type of bookstore or they are the size of an airline hangar. And there's a starbucks gone and use ac in the trying to shut the system down and you try and do they want you to reading and every manager and look this is just be sound like old old budget on a mountain every managers twenty four years old and they don't know anything anything like what is what you guys have a microphone. I look around for something. go well. Okay let's have fun from that so there's a point with that stops being charming. I get that but now of course people still look at you. I look at you tons of fans and they're like is young. He's this old guy is frigging guy and a mountaintop and oregon. He's like do you fight that for many years. Where you're like i gotta i just gotta do it. Because i'm doing for someone else. Do you ever feel like that now. You're like okay. I'm not doing this or anybody else. I'm done i am done. I'm done doing things for my wife. I'm done doing things for fans. I'm done doing things for a mortgage. I just decided to pay cramp off during all this to get rid of overhead. You know i Yeah there's no the man is gone. I'm not working for the man and and look at the shows up. I'm there give me holler. Yeah because i just got off the other on children pursuing That makes sense to me and things that i can pull off. I screamed plays that. I'm going to convert into books. So i can sell publish them. If it's a successful book. okay. I'll make a movie. Look if joe it. Also the trick now is riding electric bikes in the boonies. In the hagia lads and enduring cramped. It's fun it makes sense but you allow these things got turned upside down with this. Kobe business my first thought was crap. I mean i really felt or people in the restaurant business. My best friends are bartenders. You know i mean these people are they got hammered. Then but then i thought wisdom second. What am i talking about in the last three years. I've been to ninety. Nine studies At averages every other week i'm on a plane going somewhere to do what i do. And that i mean this year in. I've been to one city of ben to chicago. Because i finally decided to tour again. I thought this was that this is gonna be your of and teaching new. Let's just not do all the old stuff. Let's try some new stuff. And then this went down. And i actually started to feel bad for my own. Snotty industry was shit. I gotta do something for these people you know so i i just did a tour at drive all right. What's what's a tour of driving drive in drive in movie motion picture theater. Yes it was called the midway in dixon illinois or place of ronald reagan and Grade old cornfield thing out in the cornfield you know we had a classic midwest under storm that rolled through there. I known this promoter An i just women when hey do you still have driving and do you wanna do. Something is like yes and yes so we did a a covid safe. Dr in everyone's in their gar- elicit Through their great stereo system. It's not their dad's crappy system you put on your window They got a camera on me. I'm on a i'm on age is lip and even if you have a crappy view me doesn't mirror amami enormous screen. And what do you do when you're just talking for ten minutes before the movie starts. We did photo ops. We did the whole bit. We i stay in one place and we got his dombi. Johnny life certain about a feet away from me and then they standard amount of way between between two other zombie. Dummies move. they command take their mask off. We do and we do it outside kind of just and then everything everyone can fill in and do the things that we did. The photo ops just like normal then. Qna's because you don't. I'm used to heckler is in you. You see hands. Go up you call on. This is a little weird looking into a black boy. Interrelate see anything and you think you've used your best one liner you hear this. The crickets you know next to the stage has your out of the cornfield. Right it's a little bit of a different dynamic but you have to kind of let that go. We had people lined up for questions. They mark the. It's like at home depot. You mark a distance. So i don't know if conventions united started to think of those this year i was supposed to go san diego comic con. A yeah we're going to grant one hundred twenty five thousand people in a four day period. How many people come to these drive ins. Though we were we sold out for two nights in row so it was under in some odd cars in the middle of nowhere. You sell out nowhere. It's literally eight yes look. It's year in dixon illinois. it's your two hours for chicago. Everyone who went this place is local. We got the local. look yokels. well doesn't that make you doesn't make good. Doesn't that make you say. Wow if i'm going out these things. Here i mean it shows you that you're still you're commodity you still. It's not that i wasn't even that wasn't the point of going there. I just wanna see people would go period like. Is everyone too afraid. But i sense a very very strong eagerness for people to just have some semblance of -ality arab normalcy end up and drive ins. They're so old school. So kitschy is like eating the meat loaf sandwich like come on kids. Let's get him the mini instead of the station wagon. Let's go to the damn drive in dead. Could sneak is whatever he wants to do. Little reefer in your car. who cares. don't it so check this out. Give you a piece of good news story here for all this bad news. Bad news. let's see brent and drew pearce appears brothers. Their father is arc pierce. Who did did stop them. Asian of the very first evil dead back in nineteen. Well they are the next generation. Filmmakers a couple of movies. If finally make this movie that was scheduled. I don't even know how much to sink cost that much. It was scheduled to be in drive ins and it was going to open in may and that's when everything shut down. They had the number one movie at the box office or five weeks. They tied avatar their little movie. What's his goal. That i don't even know. The name of the franken movie ended tied avatar. It's a horror movie. it's a fun. Little apparently is good. It's a fun little movie. it's so whether to news it in there somewhere may it wasn't called hosts came out right when theaters shutdown. Wow when convinced to finish down so there was no way to go to a movie theater. Only way to go is the drive in state open and their movie was booked in. I don't know and drive ins. And then they kept revoking at everywhere because there was nothing else. Hey let's move in driving so evil dead by. The way is backed in fifteen drive-ins right now where anyone in california They had one in california. There was one and orange county assessor. Gold one thanks for telling you. That was really cool. So they're doing it and it's been fun to support it. Evil dead was a drive in movie. That's what kills me. I mean we made it for the driving because that was the type of movie it was at the time we went to drive ins to do research that if the like we're watching massacre at central high you can show the movie now but mastered central high. If this if part socked Most of it did lights would come on. They flashed on the screen. They'd just flashed their brights like buck. You sucks or they. Honk their horn. Our like oh my god. These people are brutal legs so the trick is gonna make a horror movie then the thing we learned like once it gets started. Don't be stopping. Keep keep it moving. Because otherwise they're gonna haunt warns they're gonna flash their lights so it was great training ryan and now is poor. Things were dying in nineteen seventy nine and they barely hung on and now god bless them. They're back in business little researches. I like it so nice to see i just normally you hear about things closing down in this old theorized mama buff bang and you know it's a good thing. Let me ask you this you. I'm gonna go back ten minutes ago. 'cause you said when you did evil dead ash versus evil dead and you were just sound like what am i doing. This is it. i'm burnt out. I thought i could do. How soon into filming did you go. Walk the fact that i do about the first about the second episode really is serious. I was the pilot directed by sam. Ramey well sam. We didn't really realize it. He had sucked all the air out of the room. He had suck days from the upcoming directors in order to get an update as to shoot his version of a workable pilot. You know he pirated literally days from all the other directors so then when sam left we were hit with a massive dose of reality of that. Oh we have to make this like way faster than the pilot. How long was the pilot. Ten days no sam raimi. I think it was Like twenty semi days with tons the second unit and i think the average episode to shoot a half hour show. Oh you know five six days so you're exhausted. You're in every scene. Almost yeah yeah. Yeah have to or you have to do it and i was. I was ready for it. We've expanded the universe you know we gave him a daughter and we you know introduced him back on gave author and so you see his family. I was all for that. But and you know we also got it Most directors are not same ramey. Well they're definitely not sam ramey at they have six days to shoot something no he would say no to the job. It's classic tell you a bunch of television directors. It's the same thing it's a skill. It is a skill to manage actors and material and sometimes effects stunts. And get that stocker done in our television used to be sixty seven days you know. Did you get along with everybody. We got probably the best crew. I've ever been associated with You know the kiwis have really done great things in the entertainment industry. I mean starting with hercules hercules xena. I've known crewmembers down there now for twenty years as like. Oh hey here mate. Hey there a and but it's not the deepest bench because they busy like if you get a lord of the rings coming in there. It'll vacuum all the crew members up it right into that one hose so we got enough people in between the big shows the we got a really good people for three years because our sell our sales pitch. Was you want to go home for dinner. Every night you'll work for rob tampered and this production. 'cause we shoot in auckland and were done every night at seven o'clock so you wanna work on location for years and years and years knock yourself out but if you've got a family you really wanna work with us. That was our pitch every year to the crew and it had worked because some crew members are like. Oh yeah a little kids and the kiwis boy. They work on a clock. American television is it's for squares as far out a film it. it really is. It's disciplined but not as disciplined as it as it could be should be kiwis. They pull the plug at seven. Pm seven am to seven pm as a twelve hour day. That's plenty Lindsay and if you want overtime the way their union just set up the producer has to ask the first day de on said hey. I liked the direct relation hour of overtime and all the department heads gathered together. They go that will right now. Now thanks to track down. I got one hour of overtime for my first frequencies episode. I director because i was new. It basically and told me that it went. alright die will give you an hour. We do that if you know what travel along the third act mike because the only basically because that system was so disciplined you had a shot. List the assistant director. I'd haven't right times next mischievous by time of day. Like when should i be shooting these shots and if matter all the way down because you couldn't just stretch it in america they would announce to the crew. We're doing two hours of overtime tonight. Because we have to finish his location it would just announce it just to kind of cake. Give you a heads up. You're not getting out of here anytime soon. There was no discussion. I love the fact that the kiwis could shut you down and the happiest well rested cruise because well like burn. Notice that were done that you were ten shows for years. We had but the rolling call time because we shot more than twelve hours. Every day monday they would be seven. Am tuesdays nine am wednesdays. Eleven am who was miserable at the time to get there friday afternoon. Call you're not getting out of there till two in the morning shooting on the weekend. You don't have a weekend now. This is normal. Your saturday is done right. you're sleeping. That's that's a recovery day. You sleep in whatever you're doing that you're not doing anything sunday as you're only day off. That's that's it. So i mean the key. Weeds kiwi system have dinner with friends every night at seven. Thirty if we really want to do because it was so. That's neither like that. I i like when the arts. I disciplined you hear all the time. I read lots of movie books. These people start easy. Norma's movies without script. Can you picture ben. Affleck's sitting in his done batman suit writing rewriting on this batman versus superman. Are you kidding me at is. That's the least efficient time to be writing the guys in the suit. You can't even take this but he's got a rewrite act three you know. I mean it's out to me. Grow smart ones. Yeah i you the ones that are union. You're smart you're experience. You know these things were hell squeeze them into into release dates. It's what sounds to me like you. You've had it you've sort of had it. Maybe have had it a few years ago with all that stuff. That's why you're doing your own thing now. Do you did it get to a point where it was affecting your mental health. You think you think you were getting anxious. You don't like how you're always fatigued on doing american shows or whatever the you just tired. Did you ever flip out. Bruce of did i pulled in new zealand. They call it the split. The dummy and the dummy in new zealand is your pacifier spit. The pacifier and just went is when the kids. Bits past bread they go in new zealand. They all year. The dummy and i did. I went off on a director. Like i'd never gone off before. Would you say he was driving me crazy away that he was doing something that was just. I was not interested in how he wanted to do it. And so i went. I went completely ballistic on. It was the last couple setups today. I basically excuse myself. It was one of those. I didn't really walk up. I was done enough. And i had to apologize to the crew the next day you know i i got everybody together. I staying look. I'm an executive producer of the show. I'm supposed to set the example right. So yeah wow wait a nail that so sorry you know that. This director didn't deserve so wanna treat each other with you know but it's what happens lynn. it's too much when something's too much When you've either bitten off too much and sometimes actors go off. They're not pissed about the actual thing they're mad about. Something else is a great outtake of casey kasem. Top top forty forty. This one goes out to bruce. Campbell spent the pacify. Yeah he's here's a song called. Speak the dummy. Spent the dumb and there's a great outtake of him up him going off on then they've got it recorded of him. Just shouting is some guy in the middle of he goes. And where are those pictures that i asked for. He was really mad about the bench pleasures. Some slight that he had sense was it. And that's what really set him up but something else right he blame it on so you are mad at the director. You were mad at at something. You were just tired. Your whatever you've had it. I was tired. I'm sure. I'm very positive that i would have worked. Normally with that guy doing now. What he was doing under normal circumstances. But it is really. Yeah it shows you Mental health of question about. I called up an email to a buddy of mine. And i'm like. Wow yeah maybe should hang up the spurs because you really do it for me if if the joy is gone then you're just looking for a payday and then at that point while then you'll do anything it's There's an actor that i have. I shouldn't name. I call it the blankety blank effect. And that's the actress name you would insert the actor's name it's the blankety blank effect where the actor never says no to anything. And you can just tell eric roberts. Let's the next gig doesn't matter isn't as bad part doesn't matter meet. My price does matter. So i i i wanna not go there i wanna i wanna show up be excited and so i've never done comedy hour before some like i'm gonna try. I may might fall completely on my face. But i'm gonna try it and it's time time to write more. I've never written a book of essays which all of a sudden you know. Now you know all about stuff so we'll see what the feedback is trying not to make it a rant book and make a positive. Does that make you nervous doing something new. Even though you're doing your thing does that make you getting from that of doing taking on a new risk. A new challenge this comedy album. It's more excited anxiety. Because i don't limit myself is far as a or whatever but i i've started to see and you've seen this too. We get limited even by our own piers how they see us like a tv. Show that i am. I and i cracked the story to a tv show. One hour drama. We think is just for the right actor own. My god is could be fresh and new and really interesting. Fda all at buddy of mine has a tv deal. So i said again to him. Maybe he'll be interested in. He goes dude with you and catch to this. You're gonna you. You want to try and sell. Listen this is yours. I'm like what am i supposed to put a suit him. Because otherwise if it doesn't have blood and guts and that allowed to try and sell it exempt something material on their own merits. I i was really taken aback. Even at my own how i was like. Oh my god that is. That's what you even think of me in this world. Because i think myself you might do the same myself as an actor woman is saying. I'll translate you wanna dance dance. Shoot guns let's do that fight scene. Let's try that you try. Let's try some comedy let's try. Tv movie was trade sitcom try all the formats one man. Show play toured. You've done music. I like it at two is job rotation a little bit of this little bit of that little bit of that But you know. We'll see i'm going to see how some people They take a book that isn't about. It's a little bit about the film industry. But it's not completely about it but i don't think people i mean. Look just because you became fit. Look i became famous from lex luther. So you know our people are get all the lex. Luther lex luther famous evil dead movies. And you're right but then we went on and we did. We've done other things. Nothing will be as impact with few things are as impactful as look getting a huge success. People said well what what does he doing. after smallville. small bills like the biggest biggest show. I can only go down so not even that. But then you did briscoe counties got a weird kid from burn notice or notice ran for seven seasons probably one of the most successful things that have done. It was the number one show on cable for about three years. You know it did. Great people would retroactively discovered the old stuff of mine. They go what. Yeah sure your dead old guy. That old guy did those weird movies like thirty years ago. So i have people sort of retroactively checking into the evil dead movies. I always got that was very popular. Cable television is about as populous. As you're gonna get is very non colty able television. Well look i said this before. You know the When i watched able dead. I was like it was before jim. Carrey like this physical comedy. The physical like i. I looked at you going. You know this guy should be the the big star. I think he's just got so. Chris matty i really did. And so many people across so that. That's why look look. How many years later. I mean you've done a lot big body of work but drive ins. They come conventions that come. They'll do they'll come to whatever you're doing so you have a huge amount of success now. Did you always see yourself like do you go because i can tell you what i look at. You know you wouldn't like it but Do you ever look in the mirror and go. God you should have been fucking you know tom. Hanks you should have been do you ever do. You have honestly feeling your gut like now as too dangerous too dangerous. Never went there. You never went there. You never thought no because it's not. I've really tried to do a combination of accepting the hands that have been dell in trying to work on my own stuff. You know i people dead movie will always be what it is. It's a crude low budget sometimes shocking or moving. The thing that i will always take away from. That is the four years that it took to make and to get the money into raise it and to shoot some and then six months later shoots the more than six months later. Shoot some more and get your father too hot property so you can get money to blow it up from sixteen. Millimeter the thirty five. I caught my father. He had just gotten divorced from. My mother was sitting on the back. Or it's staring staring off into the woods behind our house and i go dead We gotta. we're not going to get this movie into theaters unless it gets thirty five millimeter. That's about a fifty thousand dollar Operation can i can we use. The property was northern michigan. Can we use that can i. Can i go and get alone against that do it. He goes yeah yeah. I don't care just like her all but it was. Because my dad had been destroyed and the prodigal son i got him right when i when i knew i could say yes. Because he didn't care he. He was so despondent. We go up to the mid michigan bank in gladwin michigan and have a meeting with the guy at the mid michigan bank. And go we liked to get a loan for fifty thousand dollars to blow up motion picture and the guy didn't know what a blow up you know. It's a lab process of course but he didn't know he goes guides. You can blow up whatever you want. But if you don't pay back retaking the property the understand how this works said that guy that oh yeah. He didn't want to hear all the technical shit he loans to farmers isn't alone. That's right or be paid back. But that's what sticks out to me is. I'll always be proud of my homie. Sam salmon jabbering. We did the craziest crap to get this thing done to pull it off detroit. You don't make movies in detroit. Seventy nine and inflation was horrible in the interest rates. Were at a twenty twenty percent some stupid amount. It was a bad environment for investment. And so i didn't even now is so you know to me when i can go to my local cinema and watch evil dead on the screen at a matinee with twenty people in the theater. I didn't care. It's where i saw the poseidon adventure examples. Burl we made on the fucking screen and that was way early in the process. We hadn't even made any money yet. And i'm like we did it. How much did your dad make them. That fifty oh he get good. Every time he got a check his quote was god. It's like finding it in the street. You know like he just. He just tripped over it in the street in my mom my parents divorced when they split their force of what they owned the movie and i got the check and every time i get a check i knew my mom would get a check and i call her up and go mom you checks. She goes yeah. What are you going to do with it she goes. I'm getting all new anderson windows. That was her favorite brand a window and they say bam. She's got the whole house and beautiful. Double beam anderson windows in michigan collar up the dead ass abolished degen there like a thousand bucks teach. You know her. Call her up. You know dead winner. ma. I do moscow's feeling pretty josie. Those anderson went smart. John lead needs to me in my parents got by dead. Could find money in the street in my mom by andersen windows. That's beautiful you know. What how many kids ask their parents for money or get a loan and actually pay them back and give them extra money. I'd say zero. It is rare. Look we got. We got lucky. Because there's a lot of every investor we went to in detroit in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine. Anybody with money had already been hitting on by idiot. Filmmakers and this one guy liking to this very successful real estate guy goes guys. Let me tell you my experience in investing in a motion picture. It's like the ego to vegas any put dollar over slot and seventy five cents comes back. Go seventy five cents out of the dollar back. Let's put it again. You put the seventy five cents in and you get fifty cents back and you put that in next thing. You know he goes. I invested in for movies. I don't have anything nothing out of my office. And so that was as exciting as anything was being able to to pull that up really stretched all of us we. We did our own poster. We learned how to lay out a we learn what he lacks. Was we learn what variety needed. As far as to put an ad in the paper the size of the ads shape how many lie. How many dots. How many lines were in it screen lines. We had to learn all that crap. We cut our own coming attraction our own three minute trailer. Sam cut debt in in in an old dentist office in ferndale michigan. So i have a very dodgy. Look back on it because it was all so fresh and so new and so hands on. Yeah but man. I'll tell modern filmmaking with the digital stuff it really really has saved a lot of manners. Are you movies better. No but there are a lot less Now remember the old editing rooms. It would be little strips of film. hanging on. i'm things with codes are busy. It was such a small stroke of film. There wasn't even a edge coats edge coating on issued new. Where was in where it fell in. But he's pieces of film or too small. I didn't even have the edge coats. He'd have to hang on hang and they will get knocked in what they call trim bins. And we're going to the bottom of the trimble and you look down ago fart. Okay who's gonna try and find that trim now you'd hit a undo. Yeah exactly let me ask. You can save all these different versions now. So the film filmmaking. his it's it's easier. it's easier but i complain about it all the time. I'm not gonna get into it but for me. You show me practical dying. I'm loving it i. I love practical a lot of the digital stuff. It's all everything's digital. So i'm just like oh great. I've watched ninety percent of a fake movie. That i it's all digital and i'm sure people love these movies and sometimes all kind of like them but i love practical. I love and j.j. abrams. You know at least force awakens. Which a lot of people say whatever. I thought it'd be did it. Pretty damn good job but he let us a lot of practical and you look at it and go. I can touch that. It feels. I don't wanna get into that boring shit but i want i. Here's the visceral difference in our industry over forty years support a years ago ash as a shotgun and we're a shooting at a cabin tennessee and he has to swing to the window and blow the window out with his shotgun. So nine hundred. Seventy nine in tennessee papa. Bob shell in that sucker in. Look out the window. And as tim tim the caraman. Tim wave your arm. Don't be there. Don't be there because you know where your your target is. Everybody outside waved around. Don't be there trying to camera on and you're going to get out of there right ready and go lamb and window is just blown out the visceral aspect of it you feel. That can't keep feel the impact of the time we get to ask for ziebel dead which is just a few years now. Thirty some odd years later three seven years later. Now i hold up the shotgun say soon your mother Shotgun you know. Little pantomime and then a guy on said has an interactive light that hits me in the face in it. I got in really good sick. He knew when. I was gonna enumerate rhythm and he always he always gotta just right now. It's a digital flash. They're putting in. It's beautiful they can make it eight inches long twelve inches long blue steel gray that little smoke and they can put in a howitzer cannon for the sound effect. It's beautiful and completely safe but every aspect of anything visceral is gone. We never in three years. We never set foot outside of our stage. We faked entire thing a part of my rant. 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I don't know this is all bullshit. Just say just say say jesus. You've got a mask s. You're false were you offered the role of edgar in men in black. No i got a chance to play an exterminator. In one of the men in black movies it was then in black too. But i turned it down as i got to do a tv movie called tornado or fox. And i just it was better. It was way more money. And a starring role is set. A some little walk on in this movie was never on for that. I don't think the real you're speaking of all right. Well my more. My favorite horror movies is pet cemetery. Where you the first choice for pet cemetery lead that i do not know sir. I'm unaware of. That's that that's false. Where you considered to be the lead in speed bruce. No never these canneries in canneries in that movie is very is very fun to watch. He's trying to be an older authority. Figure come on now. I'm trying to use a deeper voice. Ono is a. I listened some ways. Well now he's never doing my podcast. I'm trying to get him. He's now campbell. Made fun of me. damn it will look for. I've heard it absolutely nothing but really nice things about the best e dragging called sweet november. We did a movie. And i worked for a couple of weeks and i was in drag cantu. Hi how are you. He's like hello. How are you michael. Good to see great outfit. If i may say you may. He was so awesome. I loved him. I mean he couldn't have been kinder and he don't wanna got mad when he's doing a take and he couldn't get any go fuck and then he you know. The pat pat o'connor directed circle of friends Canada would you like another takes. I'm good i'm good. Just let good action sara. Sorry and then he'd go again just thought no. It's me no. I'm okay i'm again. He was awesome though. I mean what a great guy. Hey watching actors. Work can be very entertaining. I there are some actors who i mean you got to put to amazon. 'cause did you get it. You get it otherwise. It can't match anything that get you know. Rip torn the great. Great actor rip torn. He was in men in black and buddy of mine was one of the assistant directors on it and he said rip torn was trying to just get certain words on any couldn't do it so they just kept the camera rolling any kept giving more and more pissed off and shouting angry with himself in the director or seinfeld was crying. He was laughing so hard by the monitor because he says he he would dare called cutback is. This guy was trying to get going. He worked himself into his leg. Oh sensor frenzy. He needed to calm himself down for a minute. And try out jason grave. You should google hollywood out takes. They're pretty fun to watch. I love outtakes where you respond. I know you talked about this briefly. But you and sam like the one liners. It's such a rarity in film that you have these these quotable phrases that you you came up with these one word kind of thinks so when you said good -gree or you said chainsaw or you said these little things that just start and then it just goes. We got to continue that that you find that it wasn't in the script was it sam. Wanted groupie for to a ash but said chainsaw ring together cuts. His is a shotgun and have flirted putin also tracks in and he says that wanted a word that by in one thousand nine hundred eighty six was very out of it. This is the reagan era in no one news groovy in nineteen eighty six not to my knowledge in sam's like i want you to stay groovy and then so he's san would come up with a lot of this stuff In either pitch it on the day. Like just before. Like army of darcus. Supposed to kiss in beth david's and let her hair down and kiss her and we can't find sam anywhere on set. Ap's trying to find him. They find him giggling over in the corner. Like okay. what settled by any comes over to me. Because i know what you're gonna say i know what you're going to say. Hey i go. i don't say anything. I just kissed her right. He goes no now now now. Now you're gonna look at you can say gimme some sugar baby. I was like that. So because you got do it jew. It is if you don't immediately go. Wow that's awesome. You know he'll get stupid line and other things used to current you visit. I got my foot on the neck of creature able to keeps going as planning sounds wiliest also ashes about the blow away so we just goes swallow biz so they would come out and it was the type of character that by the time. Sam did remove darkness. Ash was a full on ugly. American trash offer Highly evolved into that is really mostly sam. Because he's you know the first evil dead he's the generic milquetoasts twenty one year. Old guy who eps to be more of a survivor than anything. Evil that to kind of like vietnam bed rise a little wary and then by by darkness. He's just he's a smart ass. Which is i love it. I mean i don't like milk. Toasts lead characters. that's the problem with lead characters ranked the bad guy. You played a great bad guy right. did they. Not rate great stuff for you an asshole and choose the scenery look at me. Yeah my bad guys speech. Bright take you down. You guys get written really well. And they make the mistake of underwriting. The good guys. It was a movie called assault on dome. For one of my honest finest roles. They offered me the lead and thumb through it. Look for the name of the characters. I am through is the got. How many what. What's the density level here. We're talking to read his lines. Get down am on. let's go now. it was awesome. I wanna bore and the guy had his flowers speeches. And i'll say hey guys i i play the bad guy. I'm not going to play the lead guy. They went they had cast the guy yet. Yeah okay fine soon. Gave it to joe coke. Who is robert culp. Son and joe's perfectly fine actor. But i got to watch for the next. Three weeks of joe just doing the most insipid uninspired dialogue in me just going bilad lilia spewing bullshit all day long because they they. They wrote me well and they didn't. They didn't bother to write the hero. You're right now do that. You know it's funny. Because tom always always joke about atomic played clark and small. We always go sit there and quote alexander the great go alexander. Great said this and blah blah. I'd go on and he go. I don't know lex. that's all your fucking lines. I need you to take longer beat. Remember what else. I have to fucking say. Just take a fuck another beat. That's all you got was bad. But yeah i mean it was. It is fun playing the bad guy. I mean mostly guys. I mean look harrison. Ford was a good. I haven't theory to people who play bad guys are actually really nice guys. And it's the guys who play the heroes who are kinda dicks. Who over the years. Can you name any no. We shouldn't do that. That would be. That would be a be wrong. I mean what are they gonna find. Your way can poke fun at the big ones but you know it is kind of funny that the guy who plays the hero many times on set as the feeling of like i have to be in control of everything blaming here girl. I need to be in charge of this. Do i want to say that line now. Some actors is pretty funny. Either decals navy with tom arnold. Tom would give his lines away at the first. You re the scene. You've got around outside where you're shooting. And he read go a campbell. Had a line in a couple of days unto his first part. Yeah okay do you want me to sure. Yeah yeah go ahead. Haley said shit for a week. I kicked his legs. It gives his whole speech away to five other actors. In the end he goes. Let's call wow. I got to the scene now. There's a good actor that is really that's brilliant and very what's the word nice kind. Very egalitarian campbell. You haven't said anything in a couple of days. I mean that's a shoot was you've worked with directors um writers to writers very terrified of doing things differently or leading an actor riff or do something and some situations are very loose. It's it can be nice when the writer is also the director. If they're willing to canada just get the best thing at that moment. The insecure folks are the ones who who go now. I just want what i want. I just want what i want and so my feeling is then. You're missing out. I'm interesting opportunities. it's called editing. If you don't like what we do don't use it. I would do in burn notice. I would through crap in at the very end of the scene because it was not about the plot. I'm not interested in changing their apply but they'd write some scenes where i felt like i had to react. I felt like someone should say something like we had a bad guys show up at our table. Lectures us for like two minutes and lease and we didn't have anything to say. Look at the other people after the after he goes. I go okay. It's official the guy's a day you know. And so they just yet because it's was a they needed a little button and the cage is bruce and the key is never tell them. You're going to do something. I have learned that. Never tell them you're going to do. I was on a show for two years a couple years ago. And i was leading. I would say. Oh chris so when she does this. I'm gonna go and say i'm going to add. This is because. I don't know i don't know if you need if i just i just do it. Yeah oh i was funny. I thought did you just make that up on the spot. Yeah you should keep that. Yeah eight depends on the situation in in some writers john. Patrick shanley obviously has some kind of patty chops claws like in the movie congo right. It's monkeys in the jungle right And i'm doing a transmission as charles. Laura linney is my girlfriend. i. I'd leave the i team into the jungle. We're doing a broadcast i. Something's a little clunky. And i tried to bridge a couple of things. An after the take script supervisor comes up goes excuse me During the last take you added in 'em and a well look and a And i started. I started laughing. Went come on at serious are you. Are you serious. She goes yes. We need to stick with the words. So john patrick shanley damps the michael crichton book and i still can't change the words to make his clunky sentences. Connect a little better than me. That's the that. Yeah yeah that's upset because you patty chaffetz declaws right there. Guess what if you're patty cheifs ski. I won't change your words guy who wrote mahdi ernest borgnine. So i won't. Change is words but john patrick shanley. I might need to help. Your adapted words mr playwright sees playwright. Don't change playwrights you don't change playwrights this is called shit talk with bruce campbell my patrons out there who are amazing and they support the podcast and this rapid fire used to answering fast chris f any advice for an up and coming writer during quarantine. Oh my god yes right. Great right i mean what. What else would you. What else would a writer do during that frigging guy. I've looked during this corn. I wrote two screenplays in a book. Get off your ass not rocket science. Chris i hope you're still a patron after that response. Right what do you i mean. Is this a trick question. i love it i. it's good. what are you ruin ashley. What did you enjoy most about filming the evil dead and evil dead movies. Did you prefer the series or the movies. I enjoyed when they ended there. You go leeann pay. What is the one thing. People would be surprised to learn about you bruce campbell. Lavender on my property in its snow. Fo- good i'm gonna get some of that. Lavender marissa an. What would you say as a highlight of your career to use something you accomplish. That makes you proud the one thing. What's that thing you think of right in the already thought about it i could tell no the first evil dead because it what it took to Which nobody really knows it's a. It's a story that three guys now on. I wrote a book about it. It it meant that much to me in order to chop me. It taught me that you didn't have to have a specific background. You could kind of be a nobody and get into the film business. It was it just proved to us that it was not impossible. Like i heard my cousin. My cousin's husband. Bill martin in in college nineteen seventy six. I listened to w k i. Kalamazoo because that was a win six months to college there and i listened to him and i knew that guy and he was on the frigate radio and bill was not a real flashy guy but he had a nice smooth voice. W k m. i knew it that gave me hope. He passed recently said gathering. I said he made. It seem possible that i could get in. You hear digi on the radio and you're you're fifteen sixteen. You don't have any idea that's magic like how did that guy get that job soon. Entre become frank sinatra. Even they'll have any of this works. It was all a smoke and mirrors mystery we had even fears with the first evil dead. We had heard all the projectionist won't even screen it if it's not a union movie. We hear these weird wives tales of things that were not true. Urban myths about making movies in it was just great to spell it to know that we can get into our own movie theater. It was not impossible. It took a lot. It took a lot But the what we do is not impossible. So if you're someone who is at home who sees what you and i are doing and thinks it's impossible. It is so not impossible but if you're a lazy son of a bitch. Good luck shy. You're done don't even go into the business because you know blow jobs and limousines. How often does that happen unless you're rockstar in the seventies. It doesn't happen very often. Most of what we do is tedious. Time consuming. a were not always well paid. Sometimes we work with idiots morons. it's a very selfish industry. You know so. I try now trying to look at it a little more objectively. Because i tried to please this horror of a mistress college film business and it was never satisfied. Nothing i ever did was good enough for it. So i'm like oh right. I'm trying to please you know something. That's awful film business. You can never be working hard enough. There's always steven spielberg. There's always tom cruise as someone who is mega successful. That sometimes that'll encourage you and sometimes it'll discourage you because you go. Mx twenty million for movie. I'll never never make twenty million dollars for a movie you know. i'll never earn. What dwayne johnson earns. Do i have to thankfully no houses. You know what i see. Plumbers the need for plumbers in handyman. What i think there's a in your life. There's a certain timeframe that for me. It was end of college and probably the next seven years seven year gap where i didn't look at odds had so much confidence i didn't give a shit and it wasn't until i started to have success that i started getting my own head and started to get insecure started to get and then i'm like what will we'd have. I always want to go back to that. One guy who would just knock on anybody's fucking door and say i'm fucking great. Hire me and your movie. Will you know there's something like that so you can't wait too long when you feel it you've got it. You feel it you gotta go for it man right. I think you kind of have to continually feel like that. In some way there has to be something that motivates you to get out of bed in the morning whatever. It is in our particular industry like you know. I've found that certain things can really fill. The gap rating is really cheap. It's probably the cheapest thing that our industry has the ability to right there. You go get your assets It's so inexpensive and you click and you can send it to somebody you click. And you can get a copyrighted. It's just it's all it's it's pretty magical That aspect and then filmmakers need to be good salesman. And i think they need to be better with money and time filmmakers Frank capra the great filmmaker right from the motion pictures. Mr smith goes to washington. He worked for harry cohen. Who is at columbia. Who is one of of all the assholes who ran studios. He was probably one of the biggest asshole he was. He was really a fringe about money. Money money money. There's money that money. That frank capra was like. Hey area let's let's frank producers movies too so as i can. We come up with some kind of a working relationship. Where if i'm not over budget you're not messing with my movie can we. Can we do that. Like like if i get in there and make sure that i delivered this movie to you on time and on budget you won't you won't get in there and just leave my movies alone. There is like. I don't know maybe we'll try. One of you new tried it. He delivered it on time on budget. He's like i aride right. And that's how he was able to slip under a very watchful eye of someone who liked to mess with movies and good to be responsible with money. You see a movie. That's three hundred million dollars as gotta make a billion dollars. The numbers just too insane. So if you can't get into if you can't book three thousand theaters. Guess what you're not gonna make movies for three hundred million anymore ashley. Gee if you weren't an actor what career would you be interested in and don't say writer or something that's going to be out of the business. No no no probably like if a forest ranger arranger smokey well check this out put shit out and fires out that because we're entering our fifth season organ. We have a fifth sees fire season. So yeah we're entering it now. We're heavy into verse season. So we we have red flag warnings now Windy cod low humidity in idiots out camping everywhere. Can you start a fire without matches or lighter. I do you not have that ability okay. i'm gonna. I'm gonna learn that i'm actually going to take a survival class. I'm going to flee. You need a little flint right. You need so much shavings. Yeah all right. i'm gonna do it little. You just said you didn't know how to do it. So are you telling me with better is here. Here's a plug for your life straw. I take it on my bike rides. Electric bike rides back in the boonies. Little straw. it's a urban filtered. Deleo second right out of mr right out of it bam put it back in your pocket but at least besides doing har- films you have also done voice acting as we know what has been your favorite movie show or video game voice work. You have done so we already said that evil. That was the best movie. But let your favorite. But what was the other thing you can think of that. You really love enjoyed cloudy with a chance of meatballs. If you're looking for voice work. I've played the mayor and It was fun just to that was my first kind of like being in like a hollywood animated movie where they had like other people in there who knew their names that sort of stuff. It is on to do though. Yeah i love that but animations weird animation acting is weird because hours have you come in and reduced up because animation changes. Now they go. Oh we added a waterfall behind. You see you got a pinch it up a little bit. Oh you're falling through space during this line. Now so you gotta make you gotta yell it so you have to go back and make things bigger the grunt so is upset. Me like michael moore been always filming. You look like an idiot. Ooh i do all that stuff at the end of my cell. Yeah i get all the words out. Clean is when she started doing all that. Guttural grab i could blow my voice out yells and stuff. Save that for the end. Yeah i remember the evil dead game you had. I play that i bought that loud grunts and groans in that The grunts who runs all right flask girl. What's up flash girl. Now she's about the drive are anymore dates going to be added or is that it. I've got You know. It's it's all on mr website. You can find it hosted somewhere. It's my it's bruce campbell. Keep your distance tour. I wanna see these things with my own two eyes. I know it's probably not smartest thing ever to go. Gallivanting around. I but i i wanna see. I wanna see what's happening in the country. 'cause i don't trust anybody anymore. I'm trust anything that anybody says or a autograph video. I'm like yeah. You know what you're you're working for somebody you're trying to. You know. I just want the information so it was great to travel get on a plane and see what that airline is doing and are they being safe. And what are they serving. What are they not serving. You know when you go to a hotel was happening a hotel in my wiping down the am i carrying my little kit with me everywhere. Now you know riding cars with buddies going to location while we both have masks on as we don't live with each other you know so it's avenue go through an event where your social distancing. It's really bizarre. But so i can't wait to go to the indoor venues again and see if we can't do it safe. I'm just worried for convince. Am i gonna see you again. Your mug in one of those convention room green rooms. That's one of my favorite times run into people are making coffee or whatever and it's time to shit like when is that going to happen. Also you taking us out again. You also take a few of us out to dinner every convention. I'll i'll hopefully it'll be doing that again. Wink matthew j my girlfriend. I last question. My girlfriend. And i are wondering if you to keep any props from ash versus evil dead or did you ever keep any props from any of the evil dead movies. That's it my brother. John has the shotgun from the original evil debt. What he saw y is he a fan of movies or memorabilia. No he just likes guns. So that's why he he has that i didn't keep i. You know i. I have weird stuff. I have a charge fees. Show let me chill you one thing. That's kind of interesting. I'll be come back naked. Here comes this has been a lot of help. You guys are enjoying. this opera. goes gets one of his shots cases. This is what gets me interested. It's against you could call this nerdy. I don't know this is a railroad spike and go yet. Big deal railroads play. It's from the sutro tunnel and you go. What the hell's the sutro tunnel. No one knows about the sutro tunnel. And i go. I do matters to me because sutro tunnel was in virginia city nevada and they were drilling for silver. Okay so the drill for silver and all the robber barons would have problems. The these minds would flood. You couldn't get the or out is very difficult. They had fires in there and was very bad. So adolph sutro. Says i have a great idea. I'm gonna build a horizontal tunnel to connect to all of your verticals. Chaffs in the water will run out from the flooding. You have an escape route. Spokane go out to get fire. I'll only take one penny Four that comes out of their do this so he's building. Is the robber barons. Were very hesitant about this. They they They all backed out. Eventually he finally had to get the money from europe to do this and by the time he punched a hole a twenty mile. Vertical shaft attack. Did it most of the mines were played out. He wound up selling his thing and became the mayor of san francisco. So in san francisco. There's sutro hill as named after eight up soochow. So i had mentioned when i was doing a western the adventures of brisco county junior. I think i've emailed something to somebody. About how i thought it was cool when i love history. The west guy. Emails me he goes. I had the entrance to the sutro tunnel on my property in nevada. I noticed you're gonna go do a rodeo appearance for your tv show. Why don't you take the forty five minute. Ride from reno entrepreneur. Genie city asked. I'll take the sutro tunnel. i'm like. Whoa whoa what elia. So we go there and sure enough right above this old crumbly entrance from eighteen. Sixty eight or whatever. It is in the old time lettering sutro tunnel. We squeezed do these to you. Know poorly connected metal gays and water's running out through the middle is in gave in. We only went about fifty feet in thing would just everything's collapse. It's horribly dangerous. You know we could have fallen in some bit. But i'm like you know what i'm taking. I'm taking osama bin Lake from the sutro tunnel. That doesn't no one. Could give a shit so i have a few show where everything has a story of acquisition of how that aim to be so none of it is movie oriented absolutely right. It doesn't matter. But you know what i love. Is that some guy just contacts you and you're like hell. Yeah and you drove an hour to hang out with this guy and check this. I would do that. That's why i liked. I would do that have to look not everybody's crazy now. Everyone's i'm crazier than most of the people. Some people are just stay. Innocently offer stuff and i think is wonderful. I love people i do. And i love you bruce. This has been awesome. I used to love people. And now i am on a mountaintop. Id hiding from them. Hey i can't wait to see him. And i love. I wanna come out there standing. Invite as long as the world functions. You're welcome to come up and we don't have to do you don't have to entertain me. I know you won't but Maybe i've always wanted water raft and can you. We still go water rafting around there. You can go. Rafting guide has to wear a mask. And you have to wear masks in the shuttle van getting from place to place but otherwise when you're on the raft. Yeah that's it you up front. I'm going to give you the best seat up front where you'll basically block all the cold water from hitting me. I know exactly where to sit in on these rafts. I love guy gets the front because he goes curl. The rap is shattered threes. But you'll you'll think. I realized this has been awesome. You're the best. Did you be good. Nice talking to you. I love him. I love him. That's all i'm going to say. I love bruce campbell. I mean it's got. I want to have him on as much as possible can tells you how it is. And he's sarcastic it does. That whole thing is just doing that. You know that thing. Well i don't know if the world's good but you know it's just this whole thing and it's just right. Yeah it's almost like a mcdonald meets. You know it is. It is like mcdonald a little bit. Yeah yeah that's right. So i asked my dad for fifty thousand dollars and at stories insane. Oh my god just took kind of took advantage of very sad. Father did but then his dad. We have evil dead. I came into a fortune. Yeah i just saw something. I was watching. The end of horror talked about in the pre show. The pre the intro. And i was watching amityville horror and i looked as i'm watching the movie i've seen it so many times. They know the story. I was born long island in new york. Right near ami vilma mob as crazy as she wants to take me to empty the house. And that's the house while the kids were murdered. Oh boy and it was haunted. And the lutzes lead there and then they got possessed and the him his family and then he laughed and then and then went on an aunt and I read this thing About the amityville horror. james brolin. Josh bra he. He couldn't get work after that movie for years he couldn't work. I people associated him with this. You know with this horror movie but he got ten percent of the back in the movie gets don't pay may just give me ten percent on the back end he made to. It's equivalent to fifty five million dollars on the amityville horror moving. What yeah he owned. Ten percent in the movie was a blockbuster. Even though the reviews weren't good. I loved that crazy. James brolin on here. James berlin and babs. You know he's with babs barbara streisand. Yeah she is she. She's not josh. Brolin's mambo no no no. I don't think she has to she. Maybe she streisand. I don't know if they go by streisand when you'd of Of course they wouldn't. But i love to be a streisand michael. Streisand are you barbara son. Yes how did you know. There's not many streisand's rosenbaum. Thanks for listening guys. I hope you enjoy next week's going to be a classic You're going to enjoy that one. The justice league unlimited makes you subscribe at inside you podcast on on instagram facebook twitter at inside he pod. 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Movie Crush Classic: Paul Scheer on Beverly Hills Cop

Movie Crush

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Movie Crush Classic: Paul Scheer on Beverly Hills Cop

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Or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everybody welcome movie crush. Charles w chuck bryant here for the last of my l. a. studio sessions. I had the wonderful paul scheer into talk about beverly hills cop Big fan of paul's have long been a big fan of his From the early days on mtv with human giant very underrated show. If you haven't seen human giant with arab hubel and disease in. Sorry and paul scheer go find that and then later on with things like the league very funny show and one of my all time. Favorite shows children's hospital Paul has been around and we get into it with his early stories. Which i just couldn't get enough of of his His early days in new york and in early formation of the upright citizens brigade theater and that whole crew that he was with back then who all just went on to do. Great things is really amazing. Such a talented group of people Who are just kids back then. And they're all doing really great great stuff still and apollo was post. Great an he He came in here. to talk about beverly hills cop but also to talk about his new podcast unspoiled. So not only does he have the great Bad quote unquote bad movie podcasts. How did this get made with his lovely wife. June diane raphael jason zukas but he has a new show called unspoiled which takes a more Not serious but i guess more of a serious critical eye at the at the top one hundred movies of all time. So it's kinda kinda neat. He's clearly a huge huge movie guy and it was great to talk to I feel like we could have gone for hours talking about all kinds of movies but checkout unspoiled for sure on the air with network and mid roll. It's a really really good show and they're just getting cranking with it so The some really good stuff out there. I'm a big fan already. And here we go with. Paul scheer on beverly hills cop. I want to talk about your podcasts. To but where Well actually yeah. Let's go out and talk about your your new show and the reason because you've been making. How did this get made for a while now yet. It doesn't feel that long. But when i look at the dates. I'm like wow. We've been doing it for a long long time We only do two new episodes a month. So we're almost at two hundred episodes. But i think we've also been doing this since two thousand eleven. I yeah. I feel like it's been a while. Yeah so we put out fewer episodes than most even though i do the mini episodes every single week. So i i always living it. But i think it keeps it fresh for us and it also doesn't keep it like a grind. Yeah which is good for all of us. Because jason june myself like we're all working actors and right directors writers producers hannah. So we we can. It's not our only job which is a good respite from everything else. Yeah i've tried to get jason here a couple of times and he's hip to do it. Right just schedule hadn't worked out yet. Yeah he's right now in new york yes shooting john wick. Three no has the tik tok man which i am so i mean you can't get a better name i mean come on. That's great But your new show. What was the impetus behind that to do. Something a little more serious. I mean not serious but well. It's interesting the new show is called unspoiled and i'm doing it with amy. Nicholson who is a film critic. That i really like i was a fan of her show. And when we were developing some shows back in the day for wolf pop. I really liked her because she is critical without being pretentious She has opinions with but also her opinions aren't she's conversationally opinionated which is has thing to do not shut you down type of person. What was her background. Her background is. I think she. I mean this is where. I'm a little bit hazy. Wrote for the la show for mtv. She writes a rolling stone. The cheese all over the board. I like her reviews because they feel very much like a polling kale reviewed they feel full and so I've always liked. Amy and we've done a couple of episodes of her show and a blast but this idea for unspoiled came up because there's this poster as one hundred greatest movies of all time and on and what you would do is you'd scratch one off as you watched it and looked at as i've seen a lot of these And like all these lists the alamo draft house best movie ray. Bmi list all these moves may all. I've seen these and then you look at the listener. I've seen a percentage of. And then as i kind of thought about even more like yeah. I've seen taxi driver. I don't remember taxi driver. I remember the thing that you're supposed to remember the memorable moments from it. And i was like. Oh it'll be really fun to watch these movies and especially now in the sense. That as i've now been creating stuff watching bad movies. I'd love to see what people put forward as good great being a central films and so i was going to do that and it was well. Why don't i do it as a podcast. Because it might be interesting to do with like that. And i partnered with amy and we are kind of just doing that having a non pretentious conversation kind of will have here today. I imagined yet. We are just talking about film as people love film interested in it we. Hopefully it'll be a little bit educational little bit interesting but it's really just it's kind of like a very relaxed film class where you can kind of check in and it feels like to me. Yes it's like to get people excited about watching movies because for me. We've only i think at this point we've released about four or five recorded about ten so kind of inspired by on stuff and it's stuff that i've stayed away from a yeah like citizen kane and i've talked to so many people like yeah. I never saw iraqi feels like homework. And you realize it's not it's it's great movie and you know and we just did swing time. Which is a fred. Fred astaire ginger rogers and i've never seen one and there's a lot of debate about does that belong on the top one hundred list. Yup at might be better than swing time regardless of that. Yeah just to expose yourself to. It was great. So i find myself enjoying these movies. We watched french connection a couple of weeks ago. So good such a great movie and it was a movie that i had watched the only thing i remembered from it was. They hit the drugs under like in the paneling. How did i miss this entire movie. So in watching these movies. That i hadn't seen or that i believe they saw. Oh there's a whole other movie here that i've just my brain is excised out so i don't know i. It really is coming from the joy of just watching stuff and wanting to talk about stuff and we get to interview interesting people who are involved in some way. Yeah and that's Even a realized with this show for movies that have seen. I mean some of these. I've seen a recorded one on raising arizona australia. Seen that movie twenty five times riley. But there's something different when you watch it with a critical eye. Yes in take notes and things jump out of the you've never noticed in To watch it more as a student of the movie is kind of been a fun experience. And i imagine you're keen on having that same thing yet. You are watching it without being forced to kind of watch it or or you're watching it in the right situation Two thousand and one is a movie that i get. I understand why people like it in my experiences in watching it were never really like whoa. This movie blew my mind but for this podcast and went to arclight cinema out here in. La august roadshow. The seventy and it blew my mind. I have not stopped thinking about that movie. Since i saw it and i was like. Oh like now. I but it's funny because it's like i've you know that movie to me is a very like a stoner film in the sense that lecture. You watch this now. It's midnight and whatever you've been doing before anything that's not exactly the way that that movie enjoyed or at least for the first time and fun in we do it all the time with had made were critically looking at mr t. Movie or right you know hurricane heist or whatever. The thing is so it is kind of refreshing for me just to be like. Oh everyone of these movies is good. Now it's a little bit of a debate of disney belong there. Is it really good. And we're talking about the other day. I don't know what you think about this but like platoon is an interesting movie. Because i just watched that last night for a really one. I'm recording tomorrow. Yeah so. I watched that this week and i found myself incredibly kind of like wow really moved by especially the first half up until you know kind of that. Famous moment with warmed foes character is kinda gunned down right you know and and then from there. The movie wasn't as like on the edge of my seat where i was. But you know as interesting as doesn't mean. A bad movie doesn't belong in that list then apocalypse. Now it doesn't have to be just compared to vietnam movies like right but it. It's it's interesting on best picture. Yeah and i think i'd forgotten that it's it's funny because we were talking about it in the sense that you when you talk about vietnam films or at least for the longest time. It's apocalypse now and it's deer. Hunter rarely is platoon in like in that conversation but yet platoon decimating that. I think no one ever did before which was a kind of show vietnam like the real way. It's a vietnam vet. Who was like saying. I was there. That's what i saw. And so for that. I was like whoa. This blows my mind. That probably opened the door for a lot of filmmakers to make these movies that they've made about iraq. Ptsd and other stuff. But is i don't know what did you think at the end of the day. 'cause i'm curious like to 'cause i went and really attached to it and then as talked about him i want i wonder where it all falls because again the first half is really fantastic to me and then it just sort of. I don't know it becomes more of a movie. Yeah i mean that's a movie. I saw a lot in college. It was on our with my roommates. And i was on our vhs rotation like a solid year And it's the first time i'd seen at sense. And i remember thinking back then even like oliver stone is so heavy handed right with the voiceover with the letters to grandma and stuff In at that always says bugged me about him even though i really enjoy some of his movies how he will explicitly say like by the way. Here's the theme of the movie. And i will literally tell it to you in voice over so i didn't feel like it needed that stuff but I think what didn't hit me before. I was how much it was just a movie from the the grunts perspective and i don't know how often we had seen that at that point and showing like the factions within the at that point. Probably you're not seeing. You seem like the greediness of war of the you know. American soldiers fighting the enemy or the racial. But you've never seen like the bad version and that's interesting. There would murders of fellow soldier so yet and just the abuse of those people whether it's charlie sheen pointing that gun at you know the the clearly mentally handicapped. Yeah young man in the village and the raping of those girls in the village like oh. This is an anti-american. Yeah we're film which is interesting Film medically or as a film. It has this weird thing because you're right like the cut from a scene of guys like smoking marijuana. Trae another scene of guys playing cards. Listen to a song. Basically saying we own smoke marijuana. God bless him. Yeah but it's it's interesting but yeah that's a very eighties movie. This is the thing hundred movies. Shit gets in there and we're talking about the time like sometimes a great example of i've had more reaction to that episode than others because that's the best rogers and astaire movie and and why is it there right. Why is it. they're like it's people. The border no like top hat is way better right interesting. But it's because maybe the library of congress put it in all things slide in locked in. So i i. It's been an interesting discussion. None of them are bad films. Yeah but it's sort of like oh we're just you know it's not like we're there to be. Let's take down this list. it's bullshit. I think it's more that'd be like let's talk about these films and look at them in a in a way that's critical but yet accessible. Yeah in in. That are just tough and problematic in subjective anyway. Yeah but it's a cool way to tackle it for podcast. I think yeah. We'll thank you What we're trying to struggle with two is talking about and this interesting to your opinion about this like. Where do you tackle a list. That has one hundred films on it. None of them directed by women and know like that hero zero. Yeah but yet you have you know and then you have like some people who have some very problematic things to you have a role in plants. Can you have a woody allen and roman polanski being kicked out of the academy like and that doesn't mean that that movie is not valid. I think a lot of people get very defensive about that because there's black facing swing time tunes. Well that doesn't mean we can't watch it right. But i think it's about like well. If we are going to watch that we have to have a discussion about yes context watching these things and because yeah it's part of the dialogue now has to be. Yeah yeah for sure. I never really thought about that point. No women on that list. It's shocking but also completely not surprising at all. Think about it so far. I have to say like also Non white representation is very minimal. Maybe we'll get into it but on the ten movies that we've done. Yeah it's it's nil. I mean you know. It's sort of an old school list yet. To two thousand seven is that when it came out. I mean you know what's changed the best eleven years. Yeah exactly i mean. Hopefully there'll be a new list and hopefully that list will move things around you know and for the right ways and i also believe it's like let's bring in a movie that we head on the list that may have come out in nineteen fifty. You know 'cause. I ben her move down to one hundred but it was up in the seventies or eighties. The original list. So right you know. It's it's i think it's interesting because you also don't want to put on like you won't put moonlight on that list now because it just came out. You need to have a little bit of distance her. How does it affect our culture because the test of time. Yeah you don't want it to be like the kademi awards where it's very much like the flavor of the month and right exactly right. Yeah and so. It's an interesting list. I hope they come up with a new one. Yeah it's what i'm going to start doing is listening to your show and watching the movie beforehand. Because i need someone to force my hand to watch a lotta. These fell is because i'm getting to the age now. I'm forty-seven where i Not circling drain. But i'm starting to think like i need to i haven't seen fucking casablanca right. I need to do that and not watch the hang over again. Well we all have these movie holes these gaps in our. It's like we all do every single one of us. I mean you know and it's interesting to kind of follow them up and also then when you see these movies like oh look apropos to what we're talking about today like watching french connection. Oh well this is the genesis of the buddy cop. I mean it's a different thing than what lethal weapon is but you can see. Yeah those seeds. And and i think that's kind of fun for me as a movie fan. That is more prone to watch john wick or like you. It's fun to goal. We're like where did that. Come from the genesis of these things. Yeah i just watched hotel artists the other night and that hotel artists is a new movie. Just came out directed by drew pearce and written by drew pearson. This guy who kind of came up in British comedy circle then got into rating on these big giant action movies. He wrote ironman three hundred for mission. Impossible and It just been attached to Big big projects and he wrote a script got on the blacklist and then made this movie stars. Jodie foster in sterling k. Brown and brian terry henry and Just a a jeff goldblum assortment of cool people And will got me really excited about. It was an indie movie. That felt like the indie movies that were being made in the nineties. Like by miramax quentin tarantino being a. We support this person. You know felt like what dusk till dawn felt like even it's not for everybody it's kind of an elevated be movie that's cool and weird. It's like i was saying it's like repo man meets barton. Thank you and it's like that to me is so exciting. Because they feel like indie film now has become like very mumble korea highness stuff and it's so nice to kind of get out of that. Its genre which is horror and mumble core. And it's like oh. I wanna see like the action. Yeah and i think like and the appreciation froth like you see that movie. Oh that reminds people man man again. I'm gonna watch part and think again. They hopefully fuel each other and be like if you see casablanca o. Eilly now arranged this other movie for that and the anna. Yeah opens up a conversation within yourself. Yeah because i mean there. I mean how many stories are there. What do they say yeah. It's like four stories right or something small. Everything is a variation on this the so Yeah that's really cool. where did you grow up. I grew up in long island Right outside of new york city and You know typical suburban life. Nothing too exciting. I feel like as i've gotten older. I moved to new york to go to. Nyu definitely more sheltered in my community which imagine most people are. Yeah and that was you know but my but my gateway out was my parents were divorced and my dad was a very integral kind of getting me to see cool. Things would tape saturday night live from before his old enough to stay awake for it and then we'd wanted on sunday mornings that's great and he would He had to vcr's and tapes and one of the movie. We're gonna talk about today like he would tape it uh-huh and And cut out the nudity right and the violence in the beginning he knew like i like certain stuff like exposed me to it and that was like a really for me. Such a cool thing to feel like that was my gateway to kind of finding something i didn't have brothers and sisters and And the people. I was growing up with like normal stuff but i was definitely a latchkey kid. Who watched a lot of tv a lot of movies and was pulling all this stuff in my dad. Really kinda supported that was your Did you have any ideas that you could be an actor and a writer. Did that seem accessible at all. You you know yes. And no. I feel like in the beginning when you're youthful you go. Yeah that's what i wanna do and then it just seemed to me by the time i went to college because i was in like plays and i was writing things in school in one of my senior plays. I wrote all the middle stuff like basically a standup comedy routine in between all these musical numbers. I wanna do this. But then my parents are gift to go to college right so i went to college and went to there to study education education teaching whatever And i fell in line with this like this brigade theater. Which is an improv theater. That was doing like kind of improv. Like this bell rings change. The last thing you said or the early days of uc. Be too well. This is a this is chicago's even pre ucb. They weren't even dare. And so we were doing like i was doing not shitty improv. But very basic short form improv. And everyone there. If they didn't have day jobs they were. They weren't even like i want to audition for movies. I want auditioning for commercials There was a workaday element to it and it just felt like oh the best thing i could ever achieve is get into the main stage of this company and that will be that and then you see became to town and you see the upright citizens brigade of this punk rock comedy thing. Yeah five floors above a hardware store. When i first started seeing them and the mind one suggestion in there. Doing these crazy improv set seniors. What was going on in chicago. But we didn't feel new york right and there was so much buzz around them and they're celebrities playing with them. And when i was watching him celebrities that you know now we're all playing adam mccain and tina fey right ryan stack and miriam tolan sack like all these people that you would that you've seen in a million things aren't so but they were just playing on sunday and they've all grown to become yeah but but celebrities were in. The audience and fell cools a five dollar ticket every sunday night. You go watch the show. And i was so i need to get in here and i got in and that's when my world kind of opened and it was like oh this is attainable. This is actually something i could do. You're good at it and that it could be a career because the youtube were creating their own shows people. I was going out with Not going out with but like people was appears with our auditioning for commercials. They weren't just felt like oh. This is alive and then new. Snl came to ucsb. And i got to be in that show and got to audition for snl. Handful just like opportunities were coming from being associated with this thing so it didn't. It was kind of a multi step process. It was resigned going to college and going like why won't ever do this. Raise my parents pay for that. And and you know it's so hard and then it got into this one thing while this will be where i am and i'm happy with that school and then it was like whoa no this i- tribute everything good in my creative life and even my personal life to uc. Because that's where my wife who is in your who's in that crew in your early crew might early crew was like robbery. You know from the hangover and shirley show rob cordray also from the daily show Trying to of human giant fan by the way. Thanks so much. Yeah that was just a fun show to do rob hubel nick. Kroll john mullany like You know i it's it's kind of like It's it's kind of everybody. That is in comedy crazy. Kids exactly. We all came to new york. I went to. I went to georgetown because my friend. Owen burke who runs Gary sanchez mckay's company. Like he was. I wanna go back to my school. And that's where i met. Kroll and john mullany. They were like the couple years younger than us. And then you know be paired up with people original group that we were We're actually going back to new york for the del close marathon thing and we're putting together one of the original groups But but yet it's all these people who've had tremendous success whether it's scott armstrong wrote You know old school health directors its writers peyton reed raise directing you see and hanging out and was he. Yeah directed this show. And it was one of my. I think my first speaking parts was. And i love peyton reed because he directed he directed mister show and he knows so you just but these are all of our friends. We all doing extra work for fourteen hours a day on a ucb show but it was all these people. now that have achieved something from. Chris gathered to. Yeah you know it all all all across the board. It's crazy man. I mean there was so much talent It feels like for guy like me who are fans of all you guys like. It seems like everybody went on to do great things. I think the uc be instilled in all of us this idea of throwing the latter back down right So it's great when they were on conan and they were getting more successful they were. We'll just take all of our students you know so then all of a sudden we're starting to do conan and then you know when we got our opportunities we would go. Who else is around like. If you look at the human giant twenty four hour marathon we took over. Mtv's for twenty four hours if you look at those faces in that group We brought their all of our friends and each one of them is doing something very interesting creative. But it's because they are. That was it that we drew from. We weren't stance we were. This is a community and at that point is probably community of like a couple hundred people and so it was like well when we wanted to cast somebody funny. We had the perfect casting pool right. Yeah so that. that's you know. I think the reason why you see a lot of cross pollination look at which is different women and children's hospital there you giant. That's everybody there. We are very often. Just use me to this day. I you know it's like who do i get in. That are my friends who i to get in. I have to kind of break myself of that mold because sort of like i can kind of sometimes get so cut off but what i've been trying to do like. When did the show. Dr share last year with hubel. We just pulled like the best and the brightest from the l. a. Were nuts so many amazing people so many funny people That's great because i was kinda wondering about that. It seems like i mean you see his now become an institution yup Which is great. But there are so many people cycling through their That are super talented. But it's like it's not like the old days the old days like you could go to a party. A ucb party. You knew everybody. Everyone knew you and now you go to a party and you would have maybe one fourth of you know like we could all fit in a space point now. It's just not that at all. And i imagine you guys are just like gods to these kids out here. You know what i would say i would say. I don't even think they know us honest. You know because. I think they'd probably know that we do stuff. But not because of ucb. They have their own people that they came up like. We had our people that we looked up to and then they had people below us. It looked up to you. And you're always going to the people. And i think that yes were there and we've done stuff and i still do an improv. Show there but i feel like the the cool thing about. Ucb is doesn't stand on history and it's like what are we doing and that maybe the same attitude that we had which is a very punk rock attitude like all right the ucb. How can we best these. We wanna be as good or if not better and then people would watch us. I want to be like this. And don't you had these factions even within. Ucb early on and like a polite factions there. Were you know we were all friends but it was sort of like i was on a group called respect like me jack. Mcbrayer rob riggle rob Deals you handle other people. And then there's another group called the swarm and that was like like andy daily and And anderson people like that and the they. This warm took a very slow style of improvising. Which is an element of ucb and the four and then we took the fast style. Yeah and then. There are people who came after us. Oh we're going to go more respect it. We're gonna go more swarm and then there's the airline just building off of each other so you know we were following something and they were copying us and they say so in a cool way. Everyone's kind of morphing on a knee getting so you don't even get to look that far down the line. Because i think he doesn't install pillars like. There's not like a wall like at the groundlings are like these are the people who came before you and these are the ground right you're just the next crew and that's it. I like it in the sense that you can define yourself in your own way. That's why even in our show that we do. now. I play with People that are younger and came up in a way different time than us. Oh yeah but we play similarly and you play with us. So that's what are you doing now. What she called facebook which is a show that we started when you opened in la. Which i think now is over twelve years ago but the idea of it is We take a look if somebody's facebook profile and then we improvised scenes based on it and the reason why we just a random person. Random open Yes so they have to sign in and and get on their the reason why we started. It started off actually as my space. So that's long we've been but because people didn't believe improv out here we do show in new york. We could take one suggestion. We can go for an hour and no one would doubt it here. We kind of spoonfeed improv. Right in the beginning believe they thought that you re oh we hundred that every now and then in new york some people. Will you write that. Well you write that and you know you're going to do. No we're improvising right. We're doing that. We well know you couldn't have done that and it's like no that's what we do. Yes saturday ten show and a handful of times people would like want their money back. 'cause they were told their improperly. They're five dollars. It's improv the funny thing. Because then you tell people we improvise and then people like well. Yeah but how much right the whole thing believe me. We've done some more than our share of bad shows we improvise. Yeah but i think we always joke. That are improv is at a level where we were having a bad show. It's still entertaining to an audience which has taken a while to get there but She said it was sort of like we. Were coming out to la. They didn't really have an improv groundlings. Second city at a very little footprint here so we had to show them like what we're doing is improvising. We're going to bring a random person up from the audience and there's people still think we have plants which is right crazy. Bring a person nights open. We watched them log into their computer. We get on there and we start talking to them and then we interview them for about five seven minutes and then we improvise fifteen twenty minutes of scenes and we try to tie those scenes to what we've gotten out of there so it just basically it's like it's like a magic trick revealed. It's like here it is. You're wondering why we're talking in a dentist's office will sky. Said he's a dentist so we're trying to draw those lines and we felt like that was really beneficial because it lets the audience in. Oh that's what they can kind of play along with you. It's like oh they're playing bingo in a way not that say anything bad about elliott audiences but we wanted to develop a form That wasn't just gives his suggestion. And let's go we right so that was our mentality. Yeah i mean that's the ultimate compliment though like if those people that say that like he's a plan for you guys really right this right. Yeah they need to see bad improv. Right because there is bad improv. Yeah and and. I don't want to like knock people's people. They're probably working on their stuff. As as was. I for many years to and it's yeah but when you see like you guys or I'm a big fan of The convoy guys. Oh yeah guys are great. Yeah or superego. And they're just like they're so tight and it's like a musical group when you work with each other it probably does feel written if you're uninitiated as some you know as an audience member. Well i think people always say that about the league. People are always surprised The show. I did the league on. Fxx as a great show We that was an improvised show. There's no script. It was curb style. Really yeah we had a twelve page outline. And i wrote a handful of those episodes. It was really hard to right. Because you have your scripting probably and you have to write a scene that lets you know what you need to hit with a plot. Yeah and give you ideas where you can be funny but also we can get away from it like some of the best stuff in that show and was thing that we found in the moment you know and it's one taken more done. We're not doing like a woody harrelson lost in london kind of thing. We're doing a were doing all. That was a funny bit about the corn. Let's do that again. And i'll say that to set you up and great ticket to So you're almost like doing three takes of a scene by get third take. It's a crafted thing but all was developed. Out of this improvised cameras are running where you were just refining it and that was one of the great things about our creators. jeff and jackie They were able to you know. Just chorale that kind of put you know. Put us in there and and use stuff stuff that we improvised become integral to the show in on our characters is great. I love that show and there was Every time and tried to turn someone onto it. Yeah i would have to explain to him. It was it was not about fantasy football. It was that was sort of a framework. I guess but you know if you were also into fantasy football. There were great. Little things peppered in their one hundred percent. Yeah but You certainly did not have to be a fan of football at all to love that. Show well that was our struggle all along and show grew especially when it's got a net flex people got more hip to it especially women and i found a lot of the show is marketed to dudes and yeah in all the advertising campaign were like. Footballs ref whistles. Those sports announcer and i lightly misleading. It would always argue like no. This is really about people in their thirty Just trying to be adults are single. Summer divorced right and yes. They're the reason why they get together. There you don't have to hang out in a bar cheers. You don't have to like you know You don't have to be a genius to watch big bang theory. It's like we've just given them a reason to exist together. Yeah and and to fuck with each other. Yeah and so and so as the show kind of went on we found that was a really cool thing and we and and so many people are. I don't watch football. They love the show. Great you don't need to are very rarely sp like the reason i didn't know addition for the show is because as i can't improvise about fancy football it's not about fantasy football and so i almost missed an opportunity to do that show because i was like i would feel uncomfortable talking about le'veon bell are you know like i can't i can't improvise and that you don't have to. Then that was the benefit of covid nineteen is a dangerous all encompassing downright awful virus that is wreaking havoc on our country but one thing cove nineteen is not as sentient. That's daniel does one of the leading experts on health equity in the us daniels among the most knowledgeable about the history of our health system. And how long are marginalized and underserved. 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If you'll indulge me administered hospital to one of my favorite shows and it was just Just so kind of one of my favorite kinds of comedy that I always describe to my wife is is a silly or dumb. Yeah but i mean that the best way yeah like dumb jokes to me can be an absurdist. Maybe is a better word. Yeah well. I mean i think if you look at like you know Rob cordery created that show with David wayne and wayne when you look at what american summer. Oh sure you know. Has that streak and i think that they both kind of worked so well together know set a tone so early on that they just kind of nailed this thing. So when i've written episodes of that and it was on that show and and you knew exactly what they want but they were really they were also the arbiters of the final. Say and yeah and rob you know really really had that tone voice down and you're right it's silly it's dumb. It's weird as a funny is so strange. Yeah it's just a bizarre great show. Yeah and you know. I think really helped Adult swim kind of put itself on. Its on the map as doing live action. That was interesting in different. You know Before that i think tried taking a lot of shots and none of them work and then we got to kind of get jump in their in their kind of wake up and get to do. Tsf which was again like kind of silly in a parody and fun and you get to do all sorts of fun stuff but before that there was no there is no outlets kind of do a children's kind of really blew out that that path. Yeah i mean. I think everyone of our age group grew up loving the airplane movies. Yeah stuff like naked gun. And it had been a long time like that kind of parody sort of went out of fashion right and i think children's hospital we pick that up a little bit. We talk about that in a lot. We were always saying that. Like the thing about naked gun and Airplane was that they were funny movies That had big crazy jokes in them right. Yeah but it wasn't like the wayne's brothers movies which are so referential that like the way that you get. The joke is because you saw borat to you know right that joke or you saw the happening so and no offense to that style of comedy but we definitely went into the parody right version of it instead of like. I don't know maybe. The better word is satire. But what. I love police squad and i loved airplane more than trope of it's a cop show dealing and we're in. Yeah and so that was. I mean we always tried to do not need create real characters real stakes real things and do jokes around them. Yeah and there was something about Sort of a stroke of genius. I think to hit on that fifteen minute. Oh yeah link it was. It was never get tired of it because literally was eleven minutes and twelve seconds of actual. Yeah and Done in that eleven minutes. So it's crazy. Oh yeah. I mean. I found it. Actually it's been hard to transition into When you when you are used to being so you're executing in dino eleven pages an abc plot. Yeah and challenge and all that great stuff you know. It's fun great All right so. I guess we should get into beverly hills cop. Yeah this was your your pick which I think you did. You have another pick to that. You're debating was just the one i felt like i remember that when you ask me about it. I may have submitted to but i don't remember the other one i don't either. I've been evident as new phase which is been not trying to be cool about what i like. Because there's a thing that was going on with film struck and it was struck for. What are you and everyone while. I'm part before sunrise. But also part you know avenger but also part this and you could tell that everyone was trying to like check every sure and for me and i'm not saying that everyone has to be this but i was a kid of the eighties and from me. I want my film struck four kind of opened my eyes because my well no i am back to the future. Empire strikes back. Yeah diehard yeah like those. Are the movies. That i've watched the most that they have defined me but they are me like you know if i can only judge it by the watched the most times the movies they watch the most times. I've watched raiders of the lost ark. Hard back to the future. These days and beverly hills cop is like a close fifth and main probably even maybe even gets into that four casually. Because it's like movies. They love that on that. I didn't have any. I wasn't trying to be cool. Like i like this. And they're gonna watch it into the ground right Nineteen eighty-four i was thirteen The great martin breasts who Midnight run is one of my all time favorite movie absolutely midnight. Run to me is a perfect. Yeah perfect film and in another movie. That doesn't get that much credit in marin breasts made these two very Interesting movies and you know. Yeah i again you get into mark minute ryan talk about that forever so good. Yeah i mean midnight. Run is one of those where cannot not watch it. If i happened upon. It's such a great film. Say about martin brest to. It's interesting because he also is the guy behind geely Which is what killed his career bank. And it's a bummer. Because he also was behind these to you know more than two. Seminal work i mean what. I'm always impressed with this movie in particular. Is you the whole story behind. It was like semester. Stallone was supposed to do this movie. Yeah i read a little bit about that. Yeah just crazy to think about it. So he i think that the The character name. I think it was act. I think he was axel cobra or cobra brady. The co brady brought it over to cobra and maybe some elements from beverly hills. Cop brought that over and then so fun movie just as kind of laying in waste and a murphy had this opening at snl and it was like. Can we get this thing going. And it was one of those. Let's slot him in and let's do this really quick and they didn't think it's one of the reasons why i like this. Why kind of want to talk about it because it shows that you can make a good cop movie without having to play up. The comedy cast a funny person To make the funnies of funny. But it's like if you were to make this. Today you have a lot of funny set pieces absolutely. You don't have funny set pieces. You have cops at peace and there's a difference and i think that's why these movies or this movie in particular really works. Like eddie murphy is just like just exploding with you. Know kind of charm. And helios like peak. Eddie murphy is like post forty eight hours kind of coming into his own. He's a little bit but not that much. Yeah and he carries us movie on his shoulders. But you kinda just feel like i don't know you. You don't see that transitional. I think you see movies. That that catered towards The cater towards the comic comedy. And that's why. I think i know it. There's something about it. I was like. I love that if they would have developed it for year ahead of been as good right. Yeah yeah totally. And he was. And this is eddie murphy There's been a few times in the modern era where you can kind of clearly say like this is the funniest person on the planet and eddie murphy owned that title for awhile. Oh one hundred percent. I mean it's crazy to think the kids now or people now thin our kids anymore. Don't know him as a comedian. They know him as like a disney. Dr doolittle i now kind of guy. And it's crazy i would give anything to see eddie murphy like back. Doing something just. I don't need him to be like holding a gun running around. But just creatively fulfilling. There is a highlight that got to watch. It was the beverly hills cop. Tv show pilot. That was dumped by. Sean ryan. I believe And eight murphy's in it as fully the shows about his son and no offence to anyone in that movie or tv show. But when eddie murphy comes on as axel foley Recent this is about two years how he runs circles around everyone. It's so exciting to see him. Just kill this character. The one thing that's funny about it in my opinion is that there's a little bit more eddie murphy and axel than in that version because axles dressed real nice and mumford. Shirt no he. He looks like eddie murphy. Kind of like the metro version of eddie murphy. That movie that he do deniro in a but the energy is there the right. He's doing everything right. And all i could think of is the reason why this pilot didn't go is because you watch it and go on is more eddie murphy. Yeah i wanna see him do the show and he was just sort of side setup characters. Yeah he was the dad and he would be in a handful of episodes judge. Reinhold was going to be the main guy. I think he become like the mayor beverly hills or the police commissioner who had like the big reveal the end. But yeah you know and any murphy to me is boever those cup to in all these movies just he was my guy and yeah and i love bill. Murray and i love steve martin but there is something about those guys feeling that those are my dad's guys. Any murphy felt like my guy when i was growing up. Roughly you know in the same age delirious and raw like the like i could quote those by heart kid like some of the funny standup i've ever seen in like i don't want to knock eddie murphy now but it's just so hard to see someone that was the funniest person on the planet kind of not be that anymore. You know what. I think it is is like i feel like eddie has all of it at his disposal. And it's almost like it's crazy because you look. The nutty professor watched that recently again of whoa. This movie is fucking hilarious. He kills that movie. And i think as certain point. He's knocking out. Franchise franchise franchises like big. The biggest movie star brandon eight. I don't think he's getting lazy because he's always good in it. But you may surround yourself. You mean our city. Yeah and i don't think that he's or everybody of spoken to when they talked about eddie murphy and they've dealt with eddie murphy's like mentally he is with it. He knows what he's good he knows. What a solid. But i think in his mind. I will do these kid movies he. I'm getting twenty million dollars or twice a year making forty million dollars and they're gonna do great. I don't even have to worry about even promoting them. It's like the adam sandler model. If adam sandler went to go do kids movies. I don't know but you and you watch them in dreamgirls he's got he's got it all like always got it. Just like but not always in the right thing. Beverly hills cop. Tv buzzer. It's still there and there's so maybe we can point to where the height not to call names. Chevy chase sure hilariously. Funny guy wants the top of his game. Funniest people in america. He doesn't got it like. I don't think he i don't i think when he gets it. It's a hit or miss. Eddie murphy is a great put me in the right thing and i'll just kill this for you. Yeah my as an amateur psychologist. Always see eddie murphy think man. What he needs to do is to an hour of stand up again right and kind of go back to his roots and challenge himself. Yeah but why challenges self when you when you are that rich. But how many millions does he need like. he's there that's why i think he's kind of retired. I mean he hasn't native in five or six years. You pops up like in that movie that that little drama film about the piano player like he's not trying to do anything like yeah and i don't know if maybe if that's the calculated play where he's like. Okay i need to disappear So when i come back. I'll be eddie murphy. I can't just be like norbert dreamgirls in the same year right because it it wrecks the brand you know. Yeah and that's a big risk. I mean it's easy for me to say a go back up and do stand up again and challenge yourself but there's a lot at stake there because if he if it's not there than that tarnishes the brand well it also is a different era. Because he didn't always write his own. Stand up you know especially when you talk about like delirious like there's a lot of writers they're you know really keen on. The river looked at the tape. Keenan ivory wayne's a writer for. I mean they're credited so it's not even a hidden thing i i feel like and look. I think you've talked to people like john. Appetite kevin hart and all these people like when you get to a certain level and you you are working with people in. Here's a genesis. So how about this. How about that will help i. It's i've always heard that you know like i think when you get to a level of celebrity that's so big you can't just like work at the clubs like your obligations preclude you from doing that. And kevin hart is the only example. I can look at. Who's some guy who's like hustles out of the club in patent. Oslo gets out of the club but pens on getting out five nights a week and we talked about this i did. Fic you know. He's getting out like once a month. Big show at largo in once a week Clubs around do you need somebody back. Hey what about that. Maybe it's good. Yeah so i had a mumford visit ed shirt. When i was in high school. I got one in my 'cause it was a big deal is a big deal to me and it was cool seeing it as an adult now because so many things jump out at me like what a good acting performance. He gives comedy aside. Yeah there's some like legit good on this movie. Yeah he. I mean yeah. His friend gets killed. I mean the only thing you believe all that stuff one hundred percent like there's something so interesting about how gritty the movie is when it opens. You know you're hearing a glenn fry the heat is on and you're going through you know detroit at a period of time. Where detroit is i mean. Look i don't think the that much better now but you know you're you're capturing this vibe and you you from the moment you get in here those things like oh this is different is not glossing. It i think he does a great contrast hills shirley but that you're seeing this world and he fits so perfect it doesn't make a movie star yet in detroit like when he's getting bawled out by the police chief he's great he's great actual police chief that guy i think i knew that he says fuck. I don't know something like don't think it makes my dick best of top lines. It's amazing and but when he's in that like it's the only time i've seen like a precinct that look like a precinct with all those cops like in. It's a communal behind a gym locker. Everything about it feels real tangible real. And the fact that he's friends with this former criminals instilling these bare bones. Like i don't know you're right. It just feels. It doesn't feel he's winking at it is like he's above. It feels like he's a part of this landscape and when he goes to beverly hills. I think that's why it works so good. Yeah because he doesn't feel he. Feels that the outcast. If you were to make a big argument on beverly hills cop two which i also love. He's worked. he's yeah he's in. The system isn't field daunted by the system. We're here you feel like it has those elements of like. Here's a black man. Walking around beverly hills wisey there and they basically pick him up getting her. These the black guy in beverly hills and the movie is about race. It is out there in the front line. And it's like oh that's cool to it's eighty-four they're not shying away from that. Yeah i loved his relationship with Well with both mikey And the Was it jenny jenny. Jenny who's crate in the one of those probably doing this podcast like see all these actresses kind of disappear out these days. Yeah it's like they just do one or two movies they're gone. It's such a bizarre world that we lived in the eighties. A leading lady and the disappeared. You know like very rarely as there. The gena davis and fletch. That goes on to be like gena davis right. You know it's it's yeah that's true you know that's a good point But you really believe that. The nature of their relationship like he and mike at the beginning when he tells them he loves them. And yeah those are some like those are some pretty profound for this movie profound moments. And you don't see it in a movie like this like you would never see like mike is all drunk. And he's kind of holding him by his head and the whole idea which he took the hit for axa like he saw a car he went to jail. Axel did in acts cop and mike is not idle. Still kinda but it just shows you like also economy. It's like you get you get it all these guys you get like. You don't feel like he's threatening. I took it for you. You did it. He's drunkenly telling him. Like i remember that. Yeah you know. There's a real like a. Yeah that guy who plays. Mike is actually very good. Yeah he's really gonna be great. Sleaze bags needs midnight. Run in another great like you. Just you could smell these guys. Well the great. John ashton from both run in this. He's so good in this and you know how ursel john astin is because john ashton is one way in this movie. Ns a midnight run. Yeah and there. You don't even like oh. He's a good solid actor. Just do because it's fully different performances. I mean one is a scumbag on one is a very uptight. Yeah he's not even the cool beverly hills cop. He's the tight. Beverly hills cop keep punches axle in the stomach. And you believe You go oh yeah. Asshole like too because The cop thing sort of overrides all that the police chief or not the chief but the the head of the department asked if he wants to press charges yeah and actual like fuck no man like. We're cops like i'm not going to do that yet. There's i don't know what's going on out here. Yeah there's something about this movie. Because i'm a big cop movie fan. I love your cops. I love action movies. That talking about like there's something about it that these are the unvarnished ones. Like the put. Midnight run in there to their knockoff. But they feel like they're they're just more gritty they have an indie field to them like lethal weapon one decidedly not versus all their sequels. Like there it's grittier. These are yeah. I mean were talking about relationships too. But i do love the action sequences in that opening action sequence with a big cigarette truck careening around. Yeah district of detroit looks at the most dangerous stunt ever more exciting in many ways in a fast and furious because you know there's those cgi that real truck they demolished like fifty cars. Yeah in that scene. Eight thousand era. Where i mean again like the blues brothers era where. You're just like destroying cars. Because he could. Yeah and there's so like they tactile about just watching this and dessino semi just going down. The cigarettes are flying. And there's a real guy hanging onto that coming. These days there would be there would sit in front of computer and map it all out. What could be real and back. Then there were like let's get fifty junkers in just fucking plow through them. Just violently is weekend and they're like once you like that's the opening of the movie and he's getting reprimanded the right way that. Oh yeah it's you know it's bad news. Yeah and and of course gil hill is is the chief here. It's a bit of a trope as the as the grumpy police chief inspector todd but he brought a profanity to it that just pushed it so far beyond that drop. Well here's the thing. I agree with you and talking about what we were talking about before like. Where does the copy begin. Like great die hard. I can point to a million movies that do very similar things to die art that become tropes because the diets. I've watched ordinary trope. But did they backtrack. Yeah and and yeah and like french connection has a surly kind of boss. But you know it's funny because we were our landscape now is littered with what work was number one movie of like one thousand nine hundred eighty four. Yeah so that gets ingrained. Everyone who's writing movies gold. We need that. We need that cop. We need guide. Bala schwarzenegger arena that guy and becomes a copy hobby okabe and sometimes it works and i agree. He added profanity over the top and so crazy and because he's a real guy feel like if feels real because he's not like he's got taking your badge and gun. He's like what he what falker. Victor maitland one of the great Eighty style our baddies. He was in this movie. And the other thing. That really got me You know bronson pinchot joe how you pronounce that and show right. Yeah i think so. His scene is sarah was always like one of the funniest things as a kid to. Why but watching it now years later for the first time in a while i was like man eddie murphy is so generous as the straight guy in that sas and he is sitting back and like he's the biggest funniest movie star in the world or about to be and he totally takes a backseat. And says i'm gonna totally be the straight guy in the scene and again that eddie murphy like it's that thing that you forget he just let someone hit a home run. He's an ongoing. And you see the yes. And and he's getting to hit home runs every other seen basically. It feels like a cop movie with iraq. We can't really work on this. We got to go into production like six weeks. So they're all right. So now you go to the country club and you confront victor maitland's and then any murphy back. I'm okay great. So before i go in there i'll do my little seen country and that will be the comedy and it's almost like be writing cop movies like our comedy cop movies. The heat feels very much like that. Where the the The comedy is a part of the actual story taking over. 'cause it basically like every seen this movie he's all the cop things you can easily megan editor of this. That has little to no jokes in it. yeah. I mean that. Sarah seen doesn't need to be in there but it's just fucking funny. It's like it's sort of like a flourish on top of the scene. It's like the movie functions. i guess. Maybe that's what i'm getting at like. The movie functions perfectly without any of those scenes. Yeah but those things are so additive to your experience of the movie. Because you're like oh. I'm laughing now all of a sudden. Yeah it's guys get shot in the head and it's real it's real you know it's like it feels real and and especially a taggart and rosewood which is You know john ashton and And they are there clues kospi. They're also not supercops like that's the other thing that no one's actual has a couple moves but yeah they're not doing anything to the movie. Coma culminates in a shootout at guys mansion. It's not like a scarface like out. Yeah it's not. It's not too big. I don't know i. I like that. Yeah for sure and even Not to harp too much on that scene but as the straight man. He's still being very funny. Oh absolutely with his being small small with his reactions. It's very subtle. But i was just cracking up eddie murphy. In that scene. I agree one of my favorite scenes. It's actually really funny in this movie as well. And it's a small performance and they don't know the actor's name but they go to the warehouse to kind of look at stuff He encounters a security guard. He has a whole funny scene with that guy but then they go to the foul room and he's looking through the file and eddie murphy starts lashing out at this one guy a little bit of a nerdy guy with your porsche. Is that your porsche out there. And you know because either basically just chastising this guy and and they let him do his work work in the guy. That's on my porsche. Sports funny like just a great little moment and the movie allows martin brest. Does this again in midnight run Everyone gets at these little things. That charles grodin never been as great as he is in that and i would argue. You know martin brest. We'll see in the best way possible. Hurt robert de niro's career in making him so funny and midnight run because they'd be well he'll be funny in a lot of thing. Yeah sort of like no you use him right he will be. You're like i think meet the parents. He's used perfectly great adventures rocking bowling. Coal yeah sure. But in like i think by showing off that side of deniro funny and then you missed use them and then the first funny role. He had midnight run. I feel like it has to be. Yeah i think it was a big deal because it was it wasn't even like he wasn't even he's charles is definitely leading the comedy but wellness. It's all very kind of yet. Deadpan in there. I mean looking back. It's funny like grodin and deniro are literally one of the great comedy duos in film history to me because they were so great together. A midnight run. Yeah they are looking up right now. Like we're robert deniro pretty positive. It's like my friends and i My friend brittany quote midnight. Run maybe more than any other film. It is i. I watched that movie at least twice a year dan. It's such a great film. Love showing it to people because it's a movie that yeah and i'll say this about beverly hills cop the same thing. I love showing this movie people because their impression of what eddie murphy is you bright as so different and yet i remember showing this to my wife. Wow this is really good and you is. It's like it's a good performance. It's a good comedy performance and it's a good action movie. That actually has like a pretty solid mystery like the way that like all these for whatever cop movie is like you know it's small. I think that's the thing. I really like about it too. We're so used to. Oh they're transporting nuclear weapons or this. It's like it's an art dealer. Who's like smuggling coke in. It's not it's not it's a minor crime. It's a believable crime. Yeah they're getting an it never gets convoluted right. You know. it's a pretty simple story. Which is what you want. Because you want eddie murphy to come in there and have his pieces with The banana man. Yes just like these little things that are peppered throughout the movie damon wayans also in a little part their debut screen and also arguably you know. This is a movie where you know. There are some problematic elements to their. Yeah but but but not as bad as not terrible but but yeah like damon wayans caricature of of gay. Man is pretty intense. Yeah this is the first time i just go back to deniro. He did a comedy because he was coming off of like angel. Heart and a lot of time in america and the king king of comedy. Okina comedy is yeah way possible. That was a good movie but then after after midnight. Run you're getting into we're no angels and then you know and then that kind of started it all didn't it. Yeah and then. And then it's like mad dog and glory which is still straight but he gets interesting to watch his career. Because i watched all these movies but yeah it just started like these little left field choices. One of the other funny scenes and again like with the scene like they definitely just pop. These little things in there like eddie murphy could have gone to the restaurant to confront victor maitland and just gone straight in there but now he goes in there with the you know the capricorn extend. Yeah exactly and it just like it makes the whole thing better. We'll just again. It's just showing how you can be additive without derailing a movie. And there's like there's a great thing for you know the to me my number one movie in this genre of what i love and try to aspire to in. This may have been the movie. I said i talk about it. So many times ghostbusters. Ghostbusters ghostbusters to me is kind of a perfect movie. In the sense that it is it works fully as a sci fi film that has really funny comedy beats. You know that are not distracting from potter. Not derailing the pot in your characters for the plot and if it was so easy to do we have a million of them. Don't have a million beverly hills cops. We don't have a million busters. It's every now and then you get this thing. Oh so good. Like the heat is the closest i've seen lately. That kind of is a funny Cop movie but they're still big things in it but ghostbusters is arguably people try so many capture what that is. But i think it's partly a keeping it small. But i think we're an era where everything has to be big like. You would never really make this movie now. This is an independent movie. Bev's cop at this point like yeah you know it it. It would be a house. Exploding free rate a chase. You just get away with throwing a guy through play class window. It's a dialogue in itself. Jan get rid of blake last one but yeah i i do think that the movie and i think one of the seminal scenes is we talked about before like the idea of races idea that he uses. They are racially profiling him yet. He uses race against them and that's constantly the battle of the movie you know. He's trying to kana room. Beverly hills hotel for two hundred and thirty five dollars a night so funny now here these he's to get in there and he uses race against them and then the talent is using race against him to kind of minimize them and everywhere he goes. He works to his advantage when he can. Its status status things and Yeah i just i. It's one of those movies. And i always try to find these movies whether it's galaxy quest was midnight. Run wwl's cop these movies. That are a little bit lower on the scale of of reverend. Yes people aren't sitting around talking about. It's like you're not putting them in the conversation. The greatest comedies of all time or the greatest action movies of all time but there are great examples of these great movies. So work are fulfilling. I mean you just watched it said the other night. Yeah was it like. Did you enjoy your experience in watching. It was like a fun. I had a blast and it was I think the reason one of the reasons. Some of these movies aren't included like that as it is so eighties right and it's so easy to to write it off for that reason. If you don't really sit down and watch it right if you think like you hear fucking neutron dance right and the heat is on and all these. It's actually kind of funny. It was a great time to be like a middle aged black woman performer. Because i forgot like there were so many of those like a string of hit. So that that soundtrack. I owned and played a so many times. It's still even have it as spotify playlist on my phone. It's yeah it's like you. And i love about a. to it's eighty s without being overtly eighties. Yeah there's a scene where he's driving through beverly hills and you look at this guy dressed. As like basically michael jackson thriller and like laughing at it. Because it's almost like saying that's how certain people are living in the eighties but when you look at detroit. Yeah it's his jeans and t shirts or you know it's like it's there's nothing nothing eight. There's they're not like throwing eighty shit in there. It's like the music everything that but it. It just feels more along the lines of like seventies the static on the movie. But with all the trappings of those. There's a million songs in it. At any given point and yeah by the way speaking of the best instrumental song of all time the theme the great herbie hancock helpful meyer. Yeah that's right. Yeah yeah i had. I think i just wrote down herbie. Hancock. 'cause i yeah it's S remembered i mean. Yeah harold meyer right. And it's a great a top ten hit wasn't it. Oh absolutely. And i remember casey kasem in listening to that on sundays. Huge it and it's great and I've been told that the best earworm like when you have a son can't get out of your head. You just hung that song. It'll knock it out ring of fire by johnny cash. So it's right but there's some crazy about that. Because that song came back only a handful years ago from whatever like disco frog. It was an md kind of saw. Oh yeah there's a zillion axel f like tripped out crazy versions. That became number one. I think is crazy. Frog's excellent became number one for a little bit. So funny yeah. It's an iconic a lot of a lot. Yeah lot here to like. And and it's funny i to me. I'm always a love when you watch a sequels because that's when you start to like all right. They drive a little bit in two different directions. Yeah i still love the sequel. I love it And the sequel has a very like a dumb bruckheimer simpson brooker. So it has that kind of energy and it's the beginning of that energy which is kind of like that movie kind of leads to movie like the rock and that leads to a movie like transformers at the beginning of that. So you still are like i mean. Look they're running around the cement truck there and it's a great sequence but you know it's like they're playing they're going like the perfect example of the difference between one and two. Is they go to the playboy mansion too. And it's like okay. Sure it's a funny sequence. He's talking to have there. But it's like okay. Yeah and i love it. I'm just saying. I'm game from critical point of view. It's like that's where they kind of edge jumping the shark and then when you go to the number three like everything that was good right and eddie murphy even feels like he forgot everything that was good in that movie. Zonda no offense right. I is in there now. And it's like what the fuck watching. And i think one of the reasons. What's so good is ronnie cox just amazing. I got to direct him. Directed an episode. Children's hospital with ronny cox and it was everything that a. I had to hold back everything just. Because i want to talk to him about all of this stuff. And he's a great guy who will tell those stories deliverance. Deliverance robocup robocup. He's great At the end of the day though what. I realize watching it now in my middle age like this is a movie about friendships really. Yeah whether it's mike and jenny or taggart and rosewood like they have a very sweet they end up in a very sweet place. Yeah as the three like legit pals who you feel like would do anything to help each other at that point. I think one of the things that i love about. Beverly hills cop two. It's a small little detail. Is the picture of them fishing. It's on axles like like the cameras. Panning across ronny cox's office. And it's sort of like and you see like in the interim between these two movies fishing fishing trip together nothing ever notice enron and they love it by the way my i had a pitch always i mean no one is asking but My whole pitch for those cup four. I always got this at least to get into it there on one of their fishing trips and again this also to take not taking into a cord. How old they all right now But they're all on a fishing trip but there off the coast of miami and they see something happening out in the water while they're in there and they go back to miami. And so you take it out of beverly hills and you go to miami and the gotomeeting. And they're now both fish out of water there he has a beverly hills cop in you hopefully axel foley still from the choice and then you bring them and bring them. They're just another culture that would be in you. Put them both as fish water. I think that that's a certain point that always felt like oh. That would be really cool. Nice way to finish it off. Yeah have you actually pitched that. No i wish i could. I don't know who i think. The people listening to pitches for. I got i snake so much beverly hills cop stuff because i just love it. So i've gotten to read like beverly hills cop scripts that were optioned in. Were terrible like but i don't know if their place holders either i don't like well. This'll be funny because of this. But their bills cut three disaffected up because he'll gil hill. They take away. paul reiser. The you wreck the things that you want to see in the they love about paul reiser and gil hill in the detroit. Stuff is that they are. You could check in on them and they're not like they're not crucial but they are really fun about this character. I mean has there ever been a third movie in a franchise. That was very good. I'm sure that some of them will you know right into us and tell us but wait. It's a rant. it's the only time he ever get. That is like an x men. First class massey launder. but that's not a third. that's that's a new director reboot. Yeah i it's and you know even with one of them working. I've been working on galaxy quest for tv. You may big thing with that. Has been an eel for better for worse than dealing with a lot of different people and why they think alex class works like. We just can't do the same thing. You have to create something new because if you don't you're just gonna spin out. Yeah you can't you know it's a tough line of you. That's i think aliens is a great sequel. I loved ones. It's not it's of the same ilk as alien. But it's not the i wouldn't consider it's a spiritual sequel you know it's and that's how i think we should be making movies like you don't have to be like getting back to beverly hills and there's another thing and there's an you know it's like the worst kind of sequel is just literally recycling the same jokes and away because it's like what you what you want to see is these characters back but you don't want to see the same. It's a fine line. Like what are the best sequels. I mean. there's only a handful not many. Yeah it's the all just fizzle hard. Yeah and the right time. That i'd can work magic and right now we could all use a boost acted on and on my new podcast on obamacare's ivan's share stories from my life from growing up in the himalayan foothills who acting in over five hundred bollywood friends. I will also bringing you stories of untold does from around the world lift our spirits and remind us at anything can happen. Final kiss on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. 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So he's a little off the mark here. Yeah to me. He says murphy tries to move against maitland. He comes up against the beverly hills cops including an abbott and costello team supplies unnecessary pratfalls successfully undermining the credibility of any police seen that threatens to work. But wait a minute. What's this movie about anyway. It a comedy or an action picture. It's both Audiences may expect comedy but the closing shootout scene is inspired by the machine gun massacre at the end of scarface and the whole business with cocaine so very very tired that when we see the boss and his henchman in the warehouse we feel like we switched to another movie. Maybe a dozen other movies so interesting. I don't buy that. I think the thing that we like about it is that it does i think. Do tonal switches in that. We i think you know. I think good films. Can i think one of the most exciting things is like those changes of tone like. Can you hold off. Can you go there and can you go back. And i think it's something that probably now if he wants you to be like. Oh this is in yeah. I don't think it happened a lot. Then we find a lot on unspoiled. Some of the the biggest reviewers that you know ripping on these films. Yeah and pretty much all of them not one of the best of all time but whenever these movies are doing something big women's in two thousand and one whether it's citizen kane whether it's You know the only ones that have not gotten bad reviews. Really have been swing time and ben hur which because i- arguably they're the most palatable right but when you're making something that's trying to do something different you hadn't seen people often come at them in the no no it's not my perspective and yeah and again this guy who i know who wrote and directed Hotel artemis. it's interesting because they're building. It is john wick and people are coming. Some of the reviews i read. They're it's not john wick. Well it's not supposed to be john. Where right it's more barton fink meets repo man right but if you go in with this preconceived notion it's a very interesting thing that you don't change it by watching it's like can't you have a movie that switches done. Does it have to be all action. Does it have to be all comedy can you. Can you go in and out of both interesting thought. Forty eight hours did that well. Forty eight hours is great and forty eight hours. It's kinda the testing ground for this because it is less comedic I mean my m- remembrance of it but like you get that bar. Scene bartering is is is a great thing and eddie murphy is dancing around. But it's like that's a pretty brutal and seen to love that Beautifully shot all right five questions. We all share. What's the first movie you remember seeing the theater Well i have a tell me if this counts drive in movie the jerk so yeah i remember my parents sneaking into a drive in movie and and Seeing the jerk from underneath the covers probably asleep in the middle of it yeah. I saw blazing saddles that way. When i was like four. So yeah so yeah. Your parents wanted to go see a movie in. They're like well he can sleep in the back that a few times. It's i r. rated movie Does that stand out. You know i'll tell you that. I believe if it wasn't beverly hills cop The one that. I felt most scandalous and watching okay. He is risky business. Yeah risky businesses like are. We convinced my friend's mom to rent it and she just like a kid with a lamborghini or with a portion so she didn't understand that this is a movie about a guy like hiring prostitutes and that was like whoa sexy. Yes this this is crazy. And i recently watched it. It's a good. It is a good movie. You know But yeah but that was like saks like it just felt something big yet at subway scene. I mean that's that's stuff. Yeah very much. Rebecca born man cheating. Yeah a lot of teenage boys in the eighties. Absolutely crazy yeah You walk out of a bad movie. Do you remember doing so yeah. I contemplated walking out of last action hero when i saw it. I wanna watch it again. Revisit it because they've actually. I didn't like that wasn't a very good movie. Yeah right it just felt like it was trying to be one thing. Jane black huge fan ashamed block. Love shame black but that was like his attempt to kind of doing a meta commentary on the angry as chief cabinet. And i remember sitting there going wrong. I should leave. I don't know. And i and i got myself caught up and stuff like like major league. Three also like in the theater third movie again. I know third movie Major league one great movie. Read but trying to think if i walked out. Oh well yes. And i've talked about this before but i I again driving Drove out of a drive in During lady in the water double-screening of later lady in the water and beer fest and we just took off. That's a commitment to. Yeah when you're driving. Oh yeah it was just watching. Everyone stared as as we pull out of their sorry. Sorry number four taylor to the guests. So i'm gonna go with What what classic comedy do you wish you could have been in. Then maybe even character Well i love ghostbusters. Ghostbusters to me is great But just because we talked about that a little bit. maybe i'll say it's a good. It's a good question like what are the. It's funny because i feel like the migrants ski ozzy this just because we've talked about go special talk about all the time planes trains on. Bill's love to have i. I would love to have been either one of those characters really. It's it's a great it's a great movie. It's a great under appreciated film again. Another movie hard to pull off like those john hughes movies. Yeah wow they are often copied and very rarely achieved. yeah But yeah that planet automobiles i would be m either one and i feel i could do a take on the version. I mean and no offense to those two guys. 'cause john candy and steve martin are like kind of the top of their game and yeah hundred percent such a great movie. Yeah and then finally movie going one. What's your theater ritual. Where do you sit. What do you eat okay for me. I am I've become a middle. Well i'll tell you one by myself. a couple of things so it depends on what i'm seeing the movie. If i'm seeing the movie. And i know it's going to be packed. I am picking. I'll i like being on the isle. I like the freedom of the i'll Not that use it. But i dislike church. I like being there. When i know i'm going to go see a movie during the middle of day I am going mid mid mid medic. So that's that's what. I like I've often didn't experimenting with Way back last row. I like that as well. It's a place to kind of be back row. Right hand corner animating. I like it because it's sort of like oh well middle middle where everyone wants to sit right So but back is actually really nice. I feel like you get like a real saw. Last jed eye back corner and it was great. It just felt like it was like. I don't know it just felt like it was bad experiences. I all in it. Depends on the the screen Sometimes of the stadium seating the back row. You're like at the top of the screen. Which i don't love ya know and it's it's all theater dependent Snack wise if ideal. I'm going with twizzlers. Not red vines. Twizzlers am more east coast and west coast And i'm gonna take some peanut or regular moms. Put them in my popcorn. That's familiar move. Yeah love that And then you know if it's a movie. So i'll treat myself to a Whether it's mr pip or dr pepper catastrophic kind of cherry coke now. They've got those freestyle machines. Me and my life is great. But what do you mix it up. We're yeah well. What i really do right now because i think it's bad to drink that much sugar. I will give myself pretty much more than three quarters worth of carbonated water. And then just throw in a little bit. Orange fanta often. And that's my. That's my go to go to but yeah that's my my thing in lately. I've two kids so going. To see movies is a tricky proposition for my wife. And i because we are. It's like i'm with you. It's not about getting the kids. It's about getting the kids but it's also like when you can get out of the house and if you get hit that seven thirty movie because the ten thirty movies are either. It's like yeah. It's hard so. I've been single movies during the day in love. Love us sneaking out for two hours. And i finally my enjoy movies more now to sort of like fully engaged in my movie going experience. Yeah an arc light midday matinees like there's some serious film lovers in those in those and i will recommend For you i imagine you. How many kids do you have One three year old daughter okay. Great so i like this thing out here in. La it's called. the i pick feeder. It is a small theater To each theatre probably has less than forty seats and they have a full service bar and kind of restaurant but the way the restaurant works is. It's kind of like a step up nail draft house. You earned these giant relaxing like lazy. Boys they can kind of go back and you really can get comfortable in them. And they have a table built in and all the food they deliver and it's good food. Make good chefs are. You don't need a fork knife so all hand-held food all kind of even the nachos they're all individuals and z. Candidates have the data. We have dinner drinks and a movie all in one. And i said to my wife. We've never had a bad movie experience over. 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Amie Penwell, Music is Cheaper than Therapy!

The Loudini Rock and Roll Circus

20:48 min | 2 years ago

Amie Penwell, Music is Cheaper than Therapy!

"This is Amy Penn. Well, and you're listening to Ledeen rock and roll circus. You're listening to the genie rock and roll circus changing rock history one podcast at a time. Hello everyone. Welcome back to the Latini rock and roll circus. My name is Lou Lombardi, aka Lou Dini today, we have any Penn. Well on the line with us today. She's going to be telling us a little bit about her story, her background things that she's gone through in her life to bring it to where she is now plus talking about her latest project windows and notice and not anything to do with Microsoft is far as as far as I know. But we're going to talk in the Amy it's gonna be a lot of fun. We're gonna play her track. Unstoppable. That's all coming up. Loot? Any rock and roll circus dot com is our website. Please check back off for more. Great artists interviews a lot of cool different podcasts. We have out there. A lot of different themed ones. We do would get riff Wednesday blues e Tuesday Rockin, rants, we have all kinds of stuff. All. Also, don't forget to hang out with us on our live broadcast. On rock rage radio. You can get on live on Facebook on Tuesday nights. But it's replayed on rock ridge radio every Tuesday excuse me every Sunday about noon. So when you're coming from church, you can crank up with us the any hard rock and metal circus with knee Lili be six in Keith hawk cotton's. Check all that out. Find all about that Lucchini rock and roll circus dot com guys as I was telling you at the top of the podcast, we have Amy Penn. Well on the line with us. Amy, welcome to the Dini rock and roll circus Hailu. Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it. What's up? So we're doing where are you calling in San Francisco in San Francisco. Yeah. And you know with all that nice weather. You can still catch a cold, dude. Yeah. The flu Yano Monday seven. I'm like who am I don't even know whatever dude you need to see a doctor day seven days with the flu. So what I was going to ask you to. It's if we could take step back if you can get your mind around it. It might be floating all kinds of places if any what kind of measure using what's let's talk a little bit about like how you got interested in music. You're singer songwriter, piano. Pop is a kind of alternative, piano, pop is kind of your niche at the moment. So tell us how you got into music and he got bit by the music. But because you know, there's a lot of people out there. Well, I played a little guitar or my parents made me take piano lessons, or I sing in the choir. But there aren't a lot of people out there. They're putting out albums in a serious way. Hiring publicists doing all the things you're doing. So something got you to the point. Where like you're you're much more serious about it than the average guy sitting around playing like playing Led Zeppelin guitar. So tell us about how you got into it. Yeah. I kinda wish I was that person. I really. Honestly, I'm like, I tried to put music down a lot. I was a very late bloomer, and I in terms of professional, you know, pursuit, and even now I gotta say I can't I don't even look at it like that. I just keep. Let's put it this way. When you when a project starts to form, you get incredibly uncomfortable. And if you don't start the process of making the music, you get even more uncomfortable, and I have spent years sort of wrestling with that because every time I start to feel music coming or you know, there's there's just this feeling and you can't ignore it. And it's been with me forever. And I I didn't know how to play when I first started to write. I didn't know how to write when I first started. Right. Let alone saying everything has been kind of a process of doing it blindfolded. So really finding out. What happens it started out with like the wanting to write yet needing to writing? Need to find a way? Yeah. Needing to find a way to give voice. What was going on around me? And within me. It's it, you know, it's an age old story everyone talks about oh just had this feeling I needed to express. It'll mean to sound like that. But it's. Kinda was and if you have. A life. Childhood whatever leading up that where you repressive of stuff. It's going to come out in one form or another and that either comes out as something really unhealthy, which certainly the road. I went down. I find out or you find a way through it. And my way through it was music. Okay. You touched on a couple of things here. And so so let's talk a little bit about you. Get this nudge. This this nudged from what the universe within yourself? However, you wants to your higher self told her whatever it is whatever you want. We're not here. We don't name it. It's unreal. Don't know what it is. And so you start running away from it was that the first thing you did. Well, he's. Yeah. Definitely runaway. I mean, if you don't mind me asking because we want to kind of get to know you a little bit. You don't have to give too many details. But just kind of curious what you know. I I started to I started to try to leave. My my circumstances. I started sort of running away literally and figuratively. And and then I started drinking. You know, this is I'm talking like teenage stuff, and and I moved from Boston. I'm originally from Massachusetts. And I came out here. Sort of you becoming an adult now when you look back at it. I was running from a lot of stuff, and I don't mean to be so vague. But it's like there was just a lot of there was just a lot of stuff going on. And it's the kind of stuff that if you don't face it. It gets you. You know, it just doesn't let it doesn't. Let you go. And so you have to turn around and say, okay, what you know. And my my facing it was sort of like, okay, we'll pen to paper because I'm broke. What do I do? I can't go to therapy. It can't go to rehab. I don't have any money. What do I do, you know? And this is what I did one baby step at a time. You know? You know? And so it came if you came records, it became I can't believe what I've ended up doing over the last fifteen years when I look back and thought at the time that I was doing not much at all or not enough. Yeah. You know, it's like anyway. So. So. So so you start at just writing you what you like journaling distortive try, and maybe write poetry kind of stuff like that. Yes. Just trying to distill the massive sort of emotional information going on in me. And I I didn't wanna make big deal out of things. I just wanted to find out. What was what was going to shut it all up, and I think if we're gonna talk in terms of soul, which I think we kind of have to when it comes to creativity. I have to anyway. I just needed to find a very basic practical relationship to that soul. And so the bridge to that was yes was beginning to dialogue beginning to write. I had the great fortune. I was either going to drop out of high school. I ended up in performing school for a couple of years, which I think just totally saved me. Yeah. I was a real gift. I got a scholarship there and was able just to start exploring. What was your? Okay. Wait a minute. 'cause you weren't you said you really hadn't started playing. What was your performing? Art. I got in for theater. Okay. Even though I suck. I think I just got in because I think I got in because I had a single mom, you know. And I I was able to sort of just get in. I think they'd saw girl in trouble. So. It ended up being a total gift, you know. And it started something I closed it down again the gift during my twenties. And then I opened it back up again. And then it got really serious. I made my first recording probably twenty nine thirty. So so thirty we start you now where did you play you play played in other acts or bands or anything like that? Or is it just been like you doing your thing? It's been me doing my thing joined a band like for maybe a week and a half. I think in two two thousand three you know, what I mean? Yeah. This isn't the road from me I've worked with a ton of musicians. Don't get me wrong and cruises people. But it was never about like, oh, I wanna go out and perform, and I didn't have that desire. And so that was a whole other thing. Okay. We have this material. Would you do with it? If it's not enough in your living, real people. Say okay. What are you going to perform? Ru god. No. That was my first reaction. I'm not getting up on stage. And that's still really that's still a challenge for me, though. I do it. Because if anything music and his whole path with creativity talk news to face fear. And then like, what's the worst? That can happen. Yeah. You can shake and mess up. So what you know? So what? And that's been very liberating freeing. It's okay. I always tell people, you know, that coaches of hey, it's fine to suck like, but but like suck like just really embrace that because we all suck when we start. And then I'm I suck every day at different things. But I know that like we're just plugging through. It's like one foot in front of the other and over time it starts to turn into something. But if you're not, but if you're sitting back going, I'm gonna suck. We'll guess what you're never gonna make that move. You know, you're never step in. There is totally true. One hundred completely true love that. That's that's what you passing on people because that's what I do too. So tell us about what's going on. Now what tell us about windows. What's windows? How did this come about on windows came started to some of the song started to come probably four or five years ago? And I was like, okay, cool. Great. I couldn't really. See it. I couldn't see it as a record. Just I started to write about. The relationships going on around. That's all you have to pull from this point. I'm kinda look around me and say, okay, we'll. Woo. A lot of my work. I like to step into the shoes of other people. Okay. And see for just a second. Maybe if I can find some empathy for some really challenging relationships, and maybe I could get some perspective on it. And that's been that's kind of the crux of my work. I mean, all through the thread side from the healing work that it does. It helps me to understand my my place in but also other people's places in the world lease to try and I realized that after. After a bit of time that there was some really wonderful songs on this that that I needed to at least demo right? And then you see oh. Where where am I going to get the money? That's that's always my thing for me. And so all these things started to take place. I went and saw a show in Berkeley were nights few years ago. I saw this woman Maya sharp who's a wonderful song writer in LA, I approached her and she ended up co writing a few of the songs with me, and it just started to take on a really beautiful thing. And so I didn't initial recording of it in LA, and I ended up scrapping it. Because some of for a long story short. It just didn't work and it wasn't offended enough. And so I called John Vander slice who has tiny telephone recording here in San Francisco. It's an analog. Studio, and I just wanted to record something really warm in live. And I realized that it was the whole thing was about women in my relationship to them. So when I looked at each song, I saw the woman I saw the the with they were struggling with each of them facing a moment truth and different ages and backgrounds, but or could have been seen as one woman going through many transitions. And so that's that's what windows is become. And I didn't know that it wasn't on purpose. I didn't I didn't think about the metoo movement. I wasn't thinking about feminism. I'm just. Writing songs about what was going on in my life. And this is what it turned out to be awesome. We're gonna go ahead. We're gonna talk more about it. But first, let's listen to the track, and he got a call video to this to make sure people check it out. But this is a track unstoppable. Any penn? Well on stoppable on the Ledeen, rock and roll circus. Okay. You the way I was reading the bio about the album, and you said so much. So that each song kind of represents at least loosely. Yes. Somebody that you were you interact on this journey, and can you tell us a little bit of the story about the person Kimmy names? The first who unstoppable is about. Outing anybody her name is Amy. The last long to come on the record. I actually the song is. There was there is a lot of difficulty with the first rendition of this record. And I and I walked away from that needing to take a few months break and just collect myself. And it was also simultaneously good friend of mine. Her name is Shannon culture. She had started the grab your wallet movement to boycott Trump product boy all of us in my circle. And I I don't wanna get so into politics, but it's kind of possible not to right now. We feel hopeless in weird and awful. And we didn't quite know what to do with some of the things that we were feeling or seeing around us and. Friend of mine approached me to write a song about it. Right. A protest song, whatever already protests on and. That's what came out. It was a culmination of like, you're not gonna stop me from putting this record out. I was talking someone kind of in my ethos, and it there's just no stopping there's no stopping light. I don't know stopping. I don't know. I'm getting lost here because I've got the flu. It's okay. I will bring you back fine. I get it. I got it. So you felt the then I get it people who are frustrated with the current regime if you will, and this is sort of that, and it's also personal as well. It's person the bringing the bringing this record together and not stopping the creativity and the need as you have within yourself to get to to to express yourself through music. So thank you for saving me. Still that way. So if you can if you can help us out here with what do you think I what is the next few months next six to twelve months? Look like a four for you. And which have coming up well dick show in Oakland coming up on November fourth and it just just release. You know, it's like okay with let's let's end one part of this and begin another, and I'll take a little bit of time throughout the the the winter as my day job. I work I work with children. I have to, you know, get sick. So I have to be I didn't want tour. I didn't wanna start touring in the winter. It seems really crazy me. So would importing to do is to. These to be torn by late spring into some. For and keep doing the press in just kind of keep going, it doesn't sound very exciting. It's all sort of forming as I go along, right, right? Unfold and things will pop up as you go that will help you see the next direction. Are you when you play? Are you talking are you primarily you and the piano? I have a seven piece. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's gonna be awesome. It's I'm really stoked about it. If I had my druthers, you know, of course, would go on tour with a nice band. We'd kill it. But then there's there's money, and there's independence and there's all that stuff. So do you do you can with what you have around June who you have around you. I can't I can't totally do the solo thing. But now, I just I would so prefer to be r- on there's. Yeah. And there's the energy that feeds often and things happened in that context that live that you know, what I mean? And especially if you're working with other musicians on stage that like can't really happen just in your own head. It's that sort of, you know, oh, he why did the base? Why did he play the that bass note like that? Oh, wait a minute. I'm hearing this now before you know, it like the whole thing like really kind of grows and expands, and that's really the fun part of playing with other musicians live. I was one of the fun parts of it, totally total horse. Yeah. That's. Yeah, I'm hungry for that. I've done mostly solo or like two or three people. I just I wanted to hear the whole thing really really experienced that for myself. Yeah. Right on look forward to I'm stoked. So wanted to tell everybody out there in the internet land where they can find you on the internet and anything, you know, how to see your video and all that stuff. Okay. Amy Penn well dot com. A M I E P E N E L L dot com. Everything is up there in after the six all have a bunch more videos. There's you know, I've got a lot of material coming down the pike here. So. And is windows available. It will be November six on election day. Yeah. So it's coming out then November six so right now, they can get the track unstoppable. It's on. It's on your website. There's a soundcloud link to on your on your website, if I believe totally. Yeah. Right everything everything that I'm allowed to have on that front page on. And then ACA after the after the six a lot of other stuff to show. I got you. Okay. Yeah. Amy. Thanks so much for hanging out. If you've got a minute to hang out neater rep of the pockets by need to do a little business with you when we're done. So if you can hang out for a minute opera sheet it, okay? Absolutely. Thank you so much, man. No problem. All right guys, Amy Penn. Well, you can go to Amy Penn well dot com, and Amy is a M I E P E N, W, E, L L and all stuff there. There's the links to the the everything you can just check it. All right. And you can of course, if you if you're on YouTube, just just searching me Penn. Well unstoppable. Great video, and you guys will really love that even let's Lucchini rock and roll circus. Our websites, Lucchini rock and roll circus dot com. Something I forgot to mention earlier if you like behind the scene stuff if you want to get some exclusive music, some exclusive video than you want to join my inner circle, and you can do that Lombardi music dot com slash inner circle. That is Lou Lombardi music dot com. Bax inner circle and all the things are there, and you can get some really cool stuff by doing that. So hope you guys check. That out. Oh, it's been another great time here. Other great artists. There's so much great music out there. So all you people at that are crying and saying, you know, knew good music weights. Here not listening to the any rock and roll circus. This tons of great music in a wide variety with all kind of different. Ideas being put forth, everything you can imagine is going on out there. And it doesn't matter. What your taste is? It's all great. And you will really check it out. So we to do that. In the meantime, we'll catch you guys all on the next Ludi rock and roll circus.

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Prequel to Episode 208

How Did This Get Made?

30:58 min | 2 years ago

Prequel to Episode 208

"Hey, everybody before we start the show. I have a very important announcement to make we want to make sure that we're advertising the right products for you. So what's best way to do that? If you just give us two minutes of your time to fill it a simple survey. We can get ads that you are going to like this really helps us out a lot. So I'm asking you as a favor to Jason June and myself to please go to pod survey dot com slash h d T GM and take a quick anonymous survey, they'll help to get to know, you a little bit better that way, we can also show, our advertisers. Who you are that helps us so much. I know I feel like I'm begging you right now to do that. And I am I am begging you to do it. Because this is the only way that we can kind of help sell ads, get advertisers. All the stuff that we have to do the bullshit business of this show is done here. So go to pod survey dot com slash HDTV GM and want to take the survey you can even enter for. Chance to win a hundred dollar Amazon gift card. Terms and conditions apply. Pod survey dot com slash HD. T G M. Thanks for your help. What's up with Jose his girlfriend detective, spicy hands and bubbles is alive? All this and more on today's. How does get made mini episode hit the fem-? What's of dum Dums? It's me Paul Scheer. And welcome to the how did this get made many episode? This is what I tell you all the info that you need for next week's episode and all the things that we missed from last week's episode, which of course, was dragging blade, man. There's so many things that we missed including the dragon blade, but first let me give a big shoutout to Todd front. Our for that awesome opening song. If you let to compose a song for this show. You can do it just Email us at how did this get made into two year wolf dot com. How did this at your wolf dot com? We want your songs, but now we watch your problems. It's time for the explanation. Hope line. You tell me out. Should want is. Fake shoot chains. Nobles media out there, but excited to have you composed that song, and let's get into our first question on the expedition blind. You know, it works you give me a call six one nine you L A S K that six one nine Paul ask Paul ask Nepal ass, and and help you with problems. Here we go if all any here show. Question for you. And I recently bought a house, and then if you month, actually, moved in her mom fell on some hard times, and she has to move out of her apartment. So I said why not ever moving what supposed to get back on her feet? I don't mind anything by. But it seems that my wife is very frustrated by her mom being there. And I. ACN her stressed out over silly things. Feel like anything her doesn't make the decisions as wondering if you of how say a lightly try to nudge. You're out and say, hey, maybe time starts thinking about getting back on your feet. Thanks on the show. Holy shit. That's impossible question to answer. Look who boy, I don't even know where to get into it. I feel like you got. Okay. This plan by your wife before you do anything. I have to be on the same page. Second of all if you're going to kind of break it down like this new trying to get her offer feet. You gotta come up with some solid options. What's the game plan? You're gonna get on a job board. You get on linked in. What are you gonna do? People Lincoln sponsor of the show. How are we going to get back on our feet or we're going to give her a little bit of money? Can you afford to give her a little bit money? And then most importantly, and I always go back to this take care of your wife. You know, what she may be getting stressed out? And I know you don't wanna see you're getting started up. But can you figure out a way to make her feel a little bit better? Maybe you guys can go on a station if that's in the cards. I don't know you just bought a house. That's takes a lot of money. But maybe do something together get out of the house for day or to give her a little bit of relief. But I think it seems to me like if you want this person out of your house, your mother-in-law out of the house. You gotta help her make a plan because now she's the child, and you're the adult you make the rules. God, dammit, if she's not home, she's grounded ground, your mother-in-law. That's the title of my movie, it's come effort dimension. It's called my mother-in-law's grounded. Oh, yeah. She's gonna try to have a book club. I'm like, no way, you're making too much noise. Drinking all that T. It's a hilarious movie. It's role river. Let's freaky. Friday meets neighbors. Guys, get into it my step mom's grounded. All right next question. Hey, Paul calling from y novel with equal. I probable I've been dating Dera for why for while now. And we haven't going on with the best relationship I've ever with someone the other having is cheeser both aboriginal faithful, you know. Like, you know, she's kind of a woman that you know, we're going to eat boom, patriot food picture of the food goes to face was we're going out whom photo us out go to she just she just thinks pitchers everything and people to them and she them on graceful. Now, I haven't told her anything about it. You know? I don't wanna feel I wanna feeling bad. You know? But I think I don't know, man. I might be like do shallow and any advice, you ginger Zee on this regard with my girlfriend is going to be highly appreciated. Okay. One more. Thank you say for making dragon blade the new geo storm, I appreciate that. Please catch on import Areco dragon. Dragon blade seems more ominous to yell out loud Jesus door it's coming. But dragon blade seems like an attack is imminent. If you drag. Duck. Protect your neck, Jose. This is a great problem. I'm going to give you a very easy solution. It seems like your relationship is going. Well, you don't wanna blow it up. You don't want to you don't want to you don't wanna sour it. But you do want to manage it. Right. Here's what I would say, why don't you put yourself in the same boat and tonight, we're going to do no phone night. No phone that. We're not even gonna bring our phones out with us. We're going to go and experience because you're gonna say to her is I just want to be in this moment with you. I don't want to have it private. I don't want anyone else to know it I want and maybe make that part of like one of your dates. Let's do something and no-no where we are what we did. And it will just be our store because our memories of things are way better than the pictures that we will take things and you can make it romantic like that. And then maybe you do that for a date night another day. And all of a sudden, maybe you do for the weekends. We don't do it on the weekends edge it out slowly start to see they need to post all that sort of stuff, you know. But obviously, she's really enjoying what you're doing together. Because. She's posting it. So you want to just make sure that she doesn't get offended by it. But I think you can do it try it little bit at a time a little less a little less, a little less, and also if all else fails just show her what Facebook is up to with all that, you know, the boy there in the middle on shit those Facebook people's, oh, maybe he doesn't wanna put all of our stuff up. Didn't they own it? Come and then they'll make her work for Facebook. You know, he could get scare like that. Just one of those weird fake news articles about like how Facebook will will be. Well, not fake news. I'm not going to be against fake news. I don't think my nab went down a rabbit hole. Didn't I know? I'm just saying. I don't know what I'm saying saying is minimize it. All right. Thank you Jose drag. All right. That is it that was a slow week for explanation hope line. I hope you guys give me a call next week at six one nine AS K that six one nine Paul ask. I'll answer all your questions, and again in let me know how I did did it work. That's what I really need to hear some follow ups and speaking of follow ups, let me fall with you. We are going to be doing some shows coming up in September. And we're gonna be pretty much aiming into the Pacific northwest. But also a little bit mid country. You want to be the first to know about these shows sign up for our mailing list. You can find our mailing list on Facebook dot com. You can find our mailing list on Twitter just sign up. I know that a lot of people been emailing me. I haven't heard anything we haven't announce anything is the time when you're signing up for it. That's all we're doing right now. Just sign up for sit back. Relax. Also, if you haven't been checking out my brand new show on Showtime black Monday, please check it out if you don't have Showtime. No problem right now the. The first two and actually think the third one is going to release to are totally free on YouTube. You can watch the first three episodes of black Monday on YouTube. Check it out. I think it really enjoy it episode three is as the kind of the biggest introduction to my character. So far in the series. And I just think you're really gonna like it people have been really responding positively to it Regina halls. Ho, Larry, Andrew rannells is great, Don Cheadle. You know is the is the goatman graves of all time the best. So definitely check out black Monday. Every Sunday night at ten o'clock on Showtime. If nothing more than to watch the old retro nineteen eighty s Showtime titles that we put before each episode. Also, if your comic book fan, my new comic book series is coming out. This March called cosmic ghostwriter destroys marvel history. Six episode series written with my pal Nick Giovanni, you can order it. Now, you can order it. You can tell your bookshop to keep it. In stock. Cosmic goes right of the first episode. It's about cosmic ghostwriter end. The fantastic. Four second episode is going to be about Spiderman really fun stuff cosmic goes, right? It destroys marvel history. All right. Let's talk about next week. Last week was Valentine's Day, and we're moving away from war and towards love with a timeless tale of two lovers. Megan in Harry in the lifetime soon to be classic, Harry and Meghan a Royal romance. Sewer. What is it? You do on kind of the principal. And. I have to bring these myself, and you have any idea much Josh living. Spotlight around. Harry's only spend intense. Prince Harry, people getting to say all these things all ready for this. I have dealt with trolls and death threats. He's rocking the boat out of the Piel. She makes me happy. So to hell with tradition. Cannot be my world can divorce have black too. So I think was toppings off. I mean, if anyone God, it's you in me. Oh, boy this movie, I'm so excited about it. I mean, look, what do I have to tell you? It's it's a Harry Meghan story via lifetime. We've been wanting to do a lifetime movie we missed with home for the holidays. Now, we're going to be doing Royal romance. You can find it on Amazon prime for ninety nine voodoo for two ninety nine. I also think watched it on Hulu. So I think it's still there. Harry, meghan. I think it's gonna get ya. It's gonna get you. And you know, what I just heard this week? They're making a sequel to it. They're making a sequel to this movie. It's a real it's happening. And they're making us. How did they do it? I don't know. Am I going to watch that sequel? Yeah. You bet. All right people. Let's get ready last week. We talked about dragon blade. Do we get everything? Right. Absolutely. Not do get a lot of things wrong. Absolutely. Sure. Let's get into. It's now time for a corrections. Omissions? Gobert? All right. Thank you crew. Lies. Here we go. There's a lot of people who had a lot of thought about this movie a historical thoughts, but you know, at one person Ross O'Brian wrote me an Email, and it was so detailed that I feel like it Trump's everybody else's. So I'm going to read his Email that I shouldn't up a little bit. And he writes to us this greetings from Hong Kong. I thought I'd lay at a little more detail as to specifically why Jackie Chan's Silkroad protection squad. The Arp was portrayed as the groove. Assed multi-lingual est piece. Nikki est band of brothers. There ever was over the last decade. China has attempted to build international relationships and increase its diplomatic influence through infrastructure construction. This has manifested in a global development program called the belt in Rhode initiative involving trillions of dollars spent in infrastructure and construction largely across Asia and Africa the belt and wrote initiative is often referred to as China's new silk road. It was. Kicked off by China's leaders around two thousand thirteen and by two thousand fifteen when dragon blade was released. China felt its own expertise and building up a fuck ton of transportation infrastructure would be seen as a huge asset to other countries. The belt and road projects are present not only China's successful economic development, but it's desire to foster global, peace and harmony, this even expressed in the title of film, not dragon blade, but the actual title and Chinese Jason was understandably frustrated with the lack of references to blades or dragons in the film, but as a standard for Chinese films, their English names are rarely or ever directly translate into their actual titles and usually have nothing to do with them. For instance, the child fat classic a better tomorrow and hard boil were retrospectively the true colors of a hero and detective spicy hand originally Chinese dragon blades Chinese title is a little convoluted, but the best translation is heaven's protection. Mighty arm Rome in this light is seen as the last global empire. Which used infrastructure bridges and roads as its primary expansion lever. China tends to discount the Roman expansion era of eighteenth nineteenth century in large part because if eels screwed over and humiliated by it as you discussed Jackie and his s our homeys do everything they can not to fight or fight defensively or sheaf swords because aggression on the soak road will not stand man. I felt like you needed to know. The dragon blade is China's I'd like to buy the world road and keep a company love letter to the rest of the world while Ross that was the most articulate smartly written Email that we have ever gotten. I'm gonna call. You the smartest man. You know, what I'm they just say right now. I'm still going to read the rest of them. But there's no there's no no one's going to top that. Okay. So let's just sit back and relax was just like that was like Zion Williams. That's like we don't eat like, yeah. He's going number one in the draft pick. We don't need to. We don't need to debate. It. All right. Let's let's see what we got here. All right. Let's go to our friend been in Kentucky. Paul. My name is Ben first of all Kentucky loves you guys. With regard to box office gross and prophets. The theater chains. Keep half the grosses of these movies the studio I e distributors they get half. And sometimes there is some variances and things get complicated. But a general rule is the studios in the theaters split, the gross fifty fifty. So if you look at dragon blade, it has a worldwide box office gross of one hundred twenty million dollars the studio gets half against a production budget of sixty five million dollars. So right off the bat. It's a loss of five million dollars, which isn't a bomb. Definitely not a hit. But who knows what the marketing budget was Jackie Chan is the second highest paid actor in the world. He definitely gets a cut. It's something to think in keeping. Mind of a lot of movies. We think our hits were not and some movies or even bigger bombs than we realize, thanks for of the show. Thank you, Ben. And we love Kentucky. Give us a little bit of box info. I mean. Yeah, we never really know where the money comes out at the end of the day new line had to be sued by Peter Jackson because they considered Lord of the rings a financial loss. So like, let's put that in context. Okay. So yeah, there's some shady Fluck in marketing. I mean, they're in every respect. I mean, just crazy. It's absolutely crazy. All right. We'll get a whole show about that. Where's the money in podcasting? I'll tell you that much. All right here, we go. This. Trevor all Trevor in Massachusetts just calling the way you know, that bubbles the chimpanzee is still alive and living at the center for great apes in Florida. You can go on there and actually support the center if you want there's donations available. Thanks bye. Thank you Trevor for that. And you know, what I found out? Also is that Tyco TD the director of thoracic Narok, and you know, a somebody. We're very big fans of here is actually making a movie about bubbles. Yes. He is making a movie about bubbles the chimp. So I don't know. Maybe we're putting it into the universe. Bubbles is back baby. Twenty nineteen bubbles back. All right. Let's go back to the boards ear will were we normally pull all these from and Cameron H. I knew yet to chime in what he got Cameron. The gang seemed confused by the idea of a massive army sending out a champion to fight and battle for them Daniel concede that this probably happened. But everyone agreed that it probably didn't happen until later in history. First of all, I don't feel like the idea that each side would send out a champion is really all that crazy. I mean, the rationale being if our very best guy can beat your very best guy than ultimately, we would probably win the battle. Anyway. So I bought it with all the bloodshed to me the idea of sending out a champion to fight a proxy battle for. Your army doesn't seem completely unheard of Cameron. So just wrote in with no that doesn't sound unheard of to, you know, research their Cameron come on, buddy. We gotta do better than that. He seemed Braveheart. No, no, one person be sent out there. See a million civil war documentary, the ones one I find it highly unlikely Cameron come back with research, you're better than this Groveland rights, not necessarily to defend this movie or junkies x performance. But I can think I can at least explain it. They mentioned on the show the movie made one hundred twenty one million but only made seventy four thousand in the US. I speculate that this movie was never meant to be seen outside of China is might explain junkies. Lacy performance and accent. I mean, there are a lot of celebrities who do commercials are bad movies in foreign countries because it's easy money. And it doesn't ruin the reputation in Hollywood. So no real need to do an accent. If no one any ended audience leaving notice. Wow. You just think like junk it was like fuck it no-one will see it. It's. It's like going to another town and just like robbing a Bank is like, no one. There knows me. I like that makes me laugh. I mean, you you know, what the truth be told? You're probably one million percent, right. Because I'm sure he was dubbed. And he's like who the fuck cares. Let's get junked us to comment on it. If anyone can get him out in public and just ask them. What was the process, please? Don't do that. Please don't cost anybody. Don't even tell them that you listen to the show we have careers here. We can't we can't afford that kinda shit. All right. So just yeah. You've never heard of the show, and you see a big celebrity who's been focused on on the show unless they're cool. I once William to fo any threatened choke me because I talked about streets of fire. It was comical. But it was also kind of scary, Stu and our last from Elektra Bigalow. She goes welcome pedia says Mel Gibson was originally going to be John Q ex parte. Do we think that version would be better or worse? All right. Let's take everything we know about Mel Gibson put on the side. I'm not gonna worry about his personal life or anything like that. I'm just gonna look at him as an actor. And he is the furthest person away from a Roman that I can think of junk cusak to these people do not, you know, feel Roman to me. I feel you need something just a little bit of. I don't know. Ethnicity to them or something? They I would say how about have you damn like he would be great or Scott bail either way people. I think it would be a better film. Scub- AO in jagged blade. Let's make it happen. All right. You already know who wants to do that. Let's get into a little word from our sponsors people. Are you looking for someone to fill that job that needs that special someone in your workforce? But you don't know exactly where to find them. Let me tell you Lincoln is here to help because there are thousands hundreds of thousands of people that are looking for jobs in linked in is going to have the right person for your job. Okay. Seventy percent of the US workforce is on linked in. Okay. It is the best way to get your job opportunity in front of more than the right people than a job board allows you to get on. Okay. These are people that are qualified for your role in a ready for something new. Okay. It's gonna be the best way to find someone who's going to grow your business. Right. 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He used to do all these great interviews with some of the best people involved in some of the worst movies of all time. But you know, he's also a fantastic author. He wrote a book called console wars that we'd always talk about on the show. But the reason why he's been so unavailable to us lately is because he was finishing up his book called history of the future. And it is a fantastic book. I'm not just saying that because he works here on the show with us. But is a great book about DR and Facebook going back to Facebook and how Facebook took over Oculus. It's all firsthand accounts. And he got in to this world at a time when people were very loose lipped, and as he was writing it they got tighter lift, but he has some really shocking passages in this book even. Mark zuckerberg. He's got some great stuff. We're gonna actually play a clip of the audio book on the next minniap- Assode because he's gonna put together something fun for us to give you a little taste of exactly what he's doing. It's fantastic. A really great book. If you're interested in technology and still valley in VR like I am. And even if you're not a good read his books read so quickly. Let's talk about what you can do without having to read because I know you're listening to podcasts lesson you want to do is read. And that is Russian doll. Oh my gosh. I know everyone's talking about Russian doll right now on Netflix stars in tasha Leone who is on this podcast super three episode, one of my favorite funniest unique people out there, and this show is so uniquely her. It's so fun. And I mean, so rarely does a film or TV show nail the idea of time travel or the idea of the ground how everyone wants to make groundhog day thing. And I feel like the show really really nails it. I don't want to spoil anything about it. But just to say that it's a fantastic watch. If you haven't gotten around to watching it yet put it to the top your cue. It's only eight half hour episodes. It's you can binge really in a fitting if you're bold, but I've actually chosen to savor it. I'm down to my final episode and just loving it. Every step of the way, it's a unique wonderful cool. Show that makes me miss living in New York City and this week is Oscar week people Oscars are coming up this weekend who's going to win. Who cares honestly, not excited about the Oscars this year at all? But that shouldn't dissuade you from listening to unspoiled, we've done something really cool this past month. We've done three special episodes. We talked about the movies of twenty eighteen through what made the most money the box office. What got the best critical response and them. Now, we actually had listeners call in and tell us what their favorite movies were. But they weren't just normal listeners. No, no. They are friends friends who've been nominated for things like Oscars comedians actors, we have people like Reggie huddling director of house party and Marshall joy king from the kissing booth. Jonathan Levin directed the brand new movie longshot fifty fifty Damon Lindelof crater of loss IRA Madison from keep it. Leonard Maltin von orgy from insecure drew Pearce writer, ironman three and director of hotel artists. Matthew Robinson wrote the invention of lying? Richard roeper. Adam Scott from parks recreation. David Wayne from what American soccer Michael Weber Academy Award nominated screenwriter for disaster. Casey wilson. From happy endings and black Monday Lucia on Nello from broad city and rough night. We have so many great people Chris Gifford Alicia Malone. They're all calling in to talk about their favorite movies of twenty teen. So it's a great way to kind of prep for the Oscars, or at least feel more knowledgeable about all the films out there. It's three episodes each one is very very different blockbusters critics picks and then listener favorites. And I think if you're looking for movies to watch and get on board with this is the best way to do it. We really cover. I mean like God damn like eighty films. We've talked about a lot of films over those three episodes and it's super super fund. You haven't tried out unspoiled jet. That's a great way to get into it. And now, here's a movie that may not be nominated for an Oscar. But in two minutes, you're gonna know everything you need to know about it. It's time for the return of the movie bitches. That's right, April Halley, Andrew Goldie are coming back for a two minute review of a little film, called, mortal engines. Bitching tonight. We're reviewing mortal engine, not to be confused with mortal instruments, be different failed movies series based on their books. So mortal engines is the Peter Jackson produced not directed. I were and he wrote one of what if three right noticed that to sci-fi movie a set of thousand years of the future where humans have destroyed the world by using special weapons that fractured. Earth's crust into thousand pieces. Now, I didn't fully understand that to you just set it right now. So it's this future where Phillies have become mobile. They're all steam pump. Yep tank. Yeah. It starts and there's this like deep kind of like and the Earl of came apart. Maybe was laughing vista wasn't paying attention to what was going up, and there's predatory city than they come. I don't know the age of the Tony city starts with his voice over this longish. And I kept thinking well, surely this is going on. We're gonna meet that man. You know, we're gonna meet the wizard. And it's going to be like, oh me. I was here the whole time, and I've been running into all zooms out. And it's like, oh, we all like battle Batson. We're all just you're in. You know, right. No. It's not that the voice never even at the end. And then they sold it off into the wind. We'll see them in the next installment of book Waterland June's. No. It was not very good. But he didn't hate it. I'd made it I wanted you movie level, but it wasn't fun or good or. Intriguing and visually exciting in just like a missed opportunity. Really? Thank you movie bitches. And remember if you like this show, please rate and review on I tunes and helps us in the grand scheme of getting advertisers. Which is always important because that's what we keep the lights on here. So people what's your Simon your assignment is to watch the fantastic. The amazing, Harry, Meghan Orell romance. You can find that on Amazon prime voodoo and Hulu, and you will not be not be let down by how wonderful it is. We'll see you next week for a full episode of how to this made by for now.

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The Eternals, Event Horizon, Walking Dead, Hobbs and Shaw Interview, and More

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The Eternals, Event Horizon, Walking Dead, Hobbs and Shaw Interview, and More

"If you're a politics junkie you need to be listening to the election ride home podcast every day. At five pm former this american life contributor chris higgins reports from the campaign trail <unk> who's up who's down what issues getting traction and what do the polls say search your podcast app now for a ride home and subscribe to the election ride home podcast. Hello everyone and welcome to slash daily for tuesday august sixth two thousand nineteen on today's episode. We're going to be talking about the latest film and t._v. News and also i'll be he playing my interview with hobson. Shaw writer-producer chris morgan joining me on today's podcast is slash film managing editor. Jacob hall a hell of alot weekend editor brad omen. That's me and my name is ben. Pearson on the senior writer at slash film dot com so guys. Let's just jump into the news. We have a lot to cover before we get to to the chris. Morgan interview and let's start with the bruce lee fight in once upon a time in hollywood. I suppose we should give maybe like a loose like vague spoiler warning for once upon a time in hollywood for those who haven't seen that yet so if you wanna just skip ahead several minutes to our next item feel free to do that if you have not seen the film <hes> but brad brad tell us about that fight and the way that it almost could have ended yeah so <hes> we've seen this hit even haven't seen the movie. There's a scene from wants part time in hollywood. That is <hes> teased where brad pitt character cliff shared a scene with bruce lee who is displayed by mike mo and the actual movie the way this plays out is it's kind of a confrontational scene where brad pitt's character melts off a little bit too bruce lee while bruce ali is kind of arrogantly bragging about how <hes> tuffy is and how nobody can beat him in a fight and that he could even <hes> beat cassius clay in a fight if you wanted to and the scene stood up a little bit of controversy because <hes> asian american audiences have thought that kind of paints risley in a negative light kinda it makes them look a little bit more foolish and <hes> kind of like a bit of a dick and even though plenty of people have said bruce. Lee was kind of arrogant. They think that this scene goes too far dr <hes> but the <hes> original seen actually would have made things a little bit worse because while we see cliff if andrus legal back and forth twice during the scene there would have been a third round if you will wear cliff would actually take in a little bit more of a cheap shot at bruce and actually actually knocked him on his ass which is kind of what the goal of the fight was to begin with <hes> and so that that would have made bursley look even more like a ciampino you know by losing a fight to cliff but this mission comes from robert alonzo who was a stunt coordinator on the film and he does <hes> go out of his way to point out that the idea of the scene rather than making bruce. Lee look like a fool was two more so explained to the audience the level at which cliff was operating. Which is something that a lot of people. We'll have talked about it in that. This has meant illustrate. That cliff is a tough guy. <hes> you know he can do stunts but in show that he can also fight and he can hold his own against somebody <hes> even like bruce lee which gives us a sense of believability to wise able to easily dispatch with the charles manson murders at the end of the movie <hes> <hes> but yeah it's. It's definitely something to <hes> discuss. You know it's there's a lot of interpretations about this scene. <hes> some people are upset about it including bruce. Lee's family and there's a good reasons on both sides our you know defending and reacting to the scene <hes> but yeah i don't know what do you think what about the scene jacobite while i was not on the spoiler episode and i'm sent away in because i i am a white man and i have been listening to asian writers who have very different readings interpretations on the scene. I do think that the version movie is certainly better than the one that was planned out and originally so that was a why choice by convincing arguments in favor of the scene and against from writers of backgrounds who are more more important more relevant than i am. I personally like the scene and i am also knuckling voice here but <music>. I'm very very glad that this original version of change on the set because that is what have opened the can of worms even more point out too that even though obviously were three you guys in the slash realm staff discussing this our own h._t. Did write write this up and offered her own perspective on the scene. You know to to give us a little more proper context of with means to asian american audiences. She did not like the same <hes> article. She's very hesitant to praise it it just anyway so <hes> i think you should go read her article. If you want to hear more nuance respective from someone who actually has skin. It's game yeah for sure. Not i'll link that in the show notes. It's <hes> speaking once upon a time in hollywood. I wanted to read a few emails that we got feedback or as feedback to our conversation. I guess a couple of these. He's involve some more details from the movie so i suppose i should throw like a full spoiler warning on this <hes> so again just fast forward just a couple minutes. If if you don't want to hear what's going on but kevin h says could tarantino be making a connection about his relationship with harvey weinstein with the character of cliff saying that everything thing i saw said he was a good person. So why would i think he intentionally killed his wife or in the cape. Case of weinstein was a horrible sexual predator. I didn't think about harvey weinstein osteen once when i was watching this movie but this is kind of an interesting thing i had not considered that as like a <hes> i don't know sort of like a low keith's statement on the weinstein thing <hes> and tarantino has not really said very much recently about his relationship with a working relationship with weinstein other than just like well. I'll just leave it at that. He hasn't said very much about it on on the record anyway. So what do you guys think about this. Do you think did you make any sort of harvey weinstein connections at all when you're watching this movie. I don't think there's a direct connection but i do think that the fact that tarantino's making a love letter to this almost squeaky he cleaned hollywood or everybody not only gets long but exists in this harmony that never actually existed is feels very much like a guy who's world has been turned upside down <hes> so we could argue all day about what tarantino newer didn't know by. I can't think of the accident that posts weinstein scandal he makes movie about the good old days where you know legends made movies and they had incredible lives is false as that is. I feel like the data daydream from somebody who wishes dangerous simpler yeah. That's that's probably fair enough brad. Did you think about seen it all during this movie that really didn't come up for me at all but i do think that that is a very interesting interpretation of that particular fragment of cliff's story yeah speaking of cliff <hes> you know there's that scene where he's sitting on the boat with his wife and it's they left ambiguous as to whether or not he kills her and aaron s roden. I'm not gonna read the the email word for word but basically suggesting that cliffs harpoon gun one that he had precariously positioned on his lap sort of pointing at his wife may not have been loaded and the the way that aaron described described it was basically like looking down the barrel of the gun and just seeing essentially like an empty circle and i try to do some google image searching. I remember the movie that way as well like seeing basically an empty circle at the end of the gun's barrel and i tried to do some google searching and saw like a lot of <hes> harpoon guns spear spear guns and stuff like that actually have like pointed spears like a protruding from the end of the gun when it's in it's loaded states. I'm not sure if like maybe this who's a specific type of model that like we're the spear is on the inside of the barrel or something like that but i don't know that that could be one more subtle hint as to how we're supposed to interpret the scene. I didn't really think much more about that but i'm thankful to earn astra appointing that out and and if anybody is like a you know if anybody uses harpoon guns are spear guns regularly and maybe even knows some about the history of like models from the nineteen sixties or something feel free to email us at peter at slash dot com. Let us know what you reach out on twitter with the hash tag. I am a harpoon experts and we will with a exactly and then david p has a reading as well. He said during the spun ranch cliff sequence <hes> one half baked idea that just came to mind is and he mimes hitting a joint here any says sleepy george spahn represents the academy and cliff represents stunt workers occurs and how they're not recognized man these rich executive producers and directors made their money off the backs of these hard workers only to leave them behind as a footnote man so i appreciate the the lebowski writing of that particular email but <hes> yeah i i'm sure people have i don't know i didn't really think about this in terms of like the oscars i guess people were just thinking about this movie on all these different levels that i was not considering it when i watched it but i could easily see that that argument as being something that was on tarintino mind you know it's clear he has a reverence for stunt workers and especially with the character of cliff like doc even as complicated and ambiguous as his backstory is. It's clear that he that tarantino respects the work that goes into his his profession so that was interesting too and then one more sonic. W says i have a different take on the movie's ending. I believe tarantino's taking a jab at all. Those critics say is movies are too who violent if you remember in the car before setting out for the murder there was a diatribe by one of the girls about t._v. Violence and how it hit it has affected its viewers. Bounty law was one of those shows and it is that's who the three should go after talking about rick dalton dicaprio's character there in the end. It was violence that saves the day tarantino purposely purposely waited till the ending to unleash violence save the day and give his critics eight take that moment what did you what do you guys make of that. The idea that tarantino it was like basically saving the violence for the end as a way to use it as like a a a saving grace for the for the movie in a way like his his main tool to establish that or execute and pull off the sort of <hes> cathartic ending that he was that he was building toward. Do you think that there's anything to the idea that he was doing this as like a statement on violence at large i it's not the way i read but i do think that tarantino framing the violence is being incredibly brutal about framing it in a way that it's cheer worthy turning the level of violence against against these murderers you know <hes> that we will see apply to the opposite direction and mickey into stephen applauded. Moment is very cheeky because we were all prepared for a brutal conclusion but we're prepared for something horrifying. We get something that was you know for lack of a better word exciting so i it's certainly no accident and certainly a cheeky choice to <unk> have all come with the very end like that after movie relatively violence-free up to that point but i'm not sure if it's meant to be a jab at the critics but you know what this movie has enough going going on that. I'm willing to entertain this as something to be discussed. If anything i would say maybe that the that scene in the car is more so about <hes> thinking about how ludicrous the idea is that simply seeing violence in movies and t._v. Shows is what drives people like the manson family to do stuff like this because i if i remember correctly that scene is just her <hes> coming up with like some kind of faux explanation as to why they're doing what they're doing or like something that like the media would frame as for giving a motive to these crimes on really. They're just doing it because they're just a bunch of crazy. Assholes yeah yeah all right so let's that'll do it for our spoiler stuff's. If you're trying to fast forward and find appoint for your flailing through in your fast forward button this is where you can safely jump back into the podcast episode so let's talk about the eternal which is is a marvel studios upcoming superhero movie a casting notice casting report came out yesterday talking about jimmy chan who appeared in the movie captain marvel earlier this year that she is being eyed for a role in the attorneys. We also know that <hes> barry cogan who recently appeared on h._b._o. Tra- noble and has appeared in movies like dunkirk and american animals. He's definitely on board according to the hollywood reporter but variety says that jimmy chan who played minerva uh one of the crease snipers in captain marvel earlier this year is also in talks for a role in this movie and they the interesting thing here is that they say that that more than one source has told them that her part will be a totally different role from minerva and if that's true that would be one of the very rare are times that marvel studios would cast the same actress or actor in to play multiple roles basically <hes> across cross the marvel cinematic universe. We list all of the other instances where that's happened in this article. None of them are are really as direct as this would be. A lot of them are <unk> are sort of like voice work or performance capture or <hes> the involve the the t._v. Side of things as well and up until this point the moral studio stuff has been largely separate from the t._v. Stuff so i'm just i wanted to throw this out there to you guys like do you. Do you think that this is i mean i feel like variety wouldn't put it in there if they had you know nonsense so the idea that multiple people are suggesting jesting this to them. Do you think that this this is going to be sort of marvel breaking new ground away brad you cover the superhero stuff. What do you think about the yeah. I don't know it's i think it's maybe more likely that some wires got crossed with him like that because it would seem rather strange to cast somebody like that in that that captain marvel role only to have her play different character in <hes> another cosmic marvel movie but then again it's not as if the character of minerva was particularly uh-huh memorable or important to the preceding she was more so just kind of <hes> a background character on jude law's team so oh plus. She's also hidden under a lot of <hes> you know blue makeup and whatnot so maybe it's not too hard to have an a new role on people not realize that it's her unless they actually know who gemma chan is so. I don't know it could go either way but i feel like it would make more sense for her to play the same character from captain marvel yeah well. This movie has has a fantastic cast. Even if jimmy chan ends up not being in an and chill only add to the greatness of it if if that deal does actually go through so we'll keep you posted on that and you can read more more about all of that at the article in the show notes <hes> let's move on to an event horizon tv show brad who is supposed to be bringing this show oh to us yeah so amazon and paramount are developing a tv series adaptation of the hor- scifi movie event horizon. The original movie was directed by paul. W s anderson but this tv series i will be in the hands of anim- win guard who most recently directed godzilla vs kong <hes> but it's probably better known at this point for being at the home of thrillers and horror movies like the guest you're next and the reboot slash sequel blair witch. He'll be executive producing. I am directing. The series and it's not clear if this was something that will be some that picks up. Maybe after the events of the first movie and kind of continuous will retell that story and expand upon the idea of it <hes>. It's a pretty basic sifi premise. If you've never seen the original event horizon it focuses on a crew that ventures into a spacecraft called the event horizon that had vanished years earlier on a mission using a <hes> the sort of gravity engine that allows it to create artificial black hole so it can travel to distant points across the fastness of space ace but when event horizon comes back from one of these trips after creating artificial black hole. There's some mysterious entity force creature. What have you on it. That starts picking off the crew one by one so there. It's a pretty basic premise. It's in a way it's kind of like an alien rip off. There's a little bit more. I guess it's gruesome deaths and some things that are a little bit more devilish in nature almost like some kind of <hes> you know sifi. I satan mystic <hes> situation but there are several ways of this movie can still be expanded because if we're talking about something like <hes> going going through black holes and we don't know where it's entity comes from so maybe there's another dimension out there and the crew could easily be exploring ads and that kind of thing so there there are some path of this could go on in order to expand this <hes> premise into an entire series but we're not necessarily sure how they're approaching that premise just yet jacob. I feel like this event horizon. A a show or a movie directed by paul w s anderson and adam wing guard turning this into a tv series is sort of like this is all all seems very much in your wheelhouse. What would you think about this. This is my wheelhouse <hes>. If at horizon rules i think brad underselling is movie a lot because this is the one politics in into the movie too. I recommend wholeheartedly without reservations. I say as somebody who likes at a number of his often terrible movies because <hes> bradberry lead the the spaceship that you see black hole to literally go to hell it goes to hell comes back possessed by health and i love the collision of religious horror and sci fi back and movie saves us for the back half. You'll know at first the religious are looking in. I didn't say you know what i'm saying right here because that's that's the hook. It's not gonna ball. It's hell raiser in space and in a good way and have not seen that horizon yet because he did not know that and now you know that now you wanna see it guaranteed. You know what brianna t._v. Show movie opened up a can of worms. Wanna see dug through until we have blood on our hands ends. I want to see assistant space space. I wanna see all kinds of satanic craziness in-space. It's still get me wrong. I like it but horizon ah especially sam neill in it <hes> but it's i think it's still a bit of an alien robot all right. Let's move onto onto our next story and that is that the third walking dead show is going to be directed by kong skull island director join jordan vogt roberts. We talked a little bit about this third walking dead show i think around the time of comecon <hes> jacob. You attended a walking dead panel there. Why don't you give us just like the loose basics on what this third walking dead. Show is supposed to be about yeah at comic con. They gave out some loose st hills since she had this is is a show set in a community that has sprouted up in the aftermath of the apocalypse. These are people who have grown up and grown accustomed to life in at the at the end of the world. It's not about you know people from our world in our time trying to survive people who have grown to only know this world n._f._l.'s group of young the people who are in a world community who know safety you know security who ventured beyond the walls. Do you know seek their fortunes more or less and that's is pretty much. All we know plot wise even though some people will join the cast and you have a teaser trailer with only concept out there <hes> but it's somebody who gave up on the t._v. Show is a long time ago now. This is a very unique take because it really does suggest that life goes on rather world ending humans finally to adapt and the world is becomes what it is zombie become you know just another daily. Hazards opposed the thing that you're ending your entire existence. Ally jordan roberts much of this net to get me on board to watch it but i do think that they're going to keep me walking dead show is at least it's not another world's ending around the run type premise it's completely different yeah yeah i agree i mean i think he's a good it fit for this. I think he's got a real good mixture of like working in heightened genre type settings and also dealing with like actually compelling character drama stuff and i'm not really sure about the writers of this. I know that <hes> matinee grady who was who's worked on the original walking dead show. He's the writer producer on that is going to be the show showrunner here brad jacobs just talking about you know the original series and even fear the walking dead not exactly much a must watch t._v. These days but i know that you like this director a lot. Is this gonna be is the combination of jordan vogt roberts and the different frit concept behind this show going to be enough to get you to tune in <hes> you know i might give it a chance. You know put it on my d._v._r. And watch the first couple of episodes doesn't it hooks me <hes> i respect jordan enough to do that and i like we brings to the table as a filmmaker but i i do feel myself feeling <hes> being very exhausted it by the walking dead the show's been on for ten years now and fear the walking dead <hes> just they've done some different things but still more of the same came to me and i just i feel like zombies now we can we can have something completely new to bring the table we can. Maybe take a break for a little bit and let them come back around at a different time yeah fair enough well. You can read more about that. Show at the link in the show notes and our last news story involves a fast and furious actress who seems to be going head ahead with chris morgan who said you'll hear my interview with him momentarily but before we get to that i just thought this was going to be an interesting thing to bring up here. Michelle show rodriguez who plays lettie in the fast and furious movies has basically come out on twitter and tried to dunk on chris morgan for lack of a better word like she she released a setup a tweet <hes> yesterday last night saying i've been around since the beginning way before chris morgan in came along and he has absolutely nothing to do with where this narrative is or where it's going f._y._i. And the narrative that she's referring to is the justice for han narrative and we've we've talked about that probably a lot on this podcast but just very briefly by way of recap <hes> sun kings character han was killed off in fast and furious tokyo drift the same same movie that he was introduced in but he was that timeline for the franchise was altered so haunted appear in the next three movies before the storyline finally revealed at the end of fast and furious various six that jason stephens character decker shaw was the one who is responsible for hans death and shaw basically got welcomed into the fast and furious family quote unquote with with open arms even though he murdered one of the main crew members and fans have been sort of upset about that because loyalty is like a huge thing in the fast <unk> fast and furious world so this whole justice for han movement sort of sprouted out of that one hoping that that <hes> stadiums character will one day basically like face the consequences i crime so michelle rodriguez basically saying chris morgan the guy who's written every single fast and furious movie since tokyo drift. It has absolutely nothing to do with where this narrative is or where it's going is is an interesting statement jacob. I know you care a lot about this really really dumb. Franchise almost probably as much as i do. What do you make of rodriguez statement here. This is that i i don't wanna say she's wrong because i don't know on on this increasingly dramatic franchise. Everybody has a bone to pick with somebody but when you have a screen writer who's written three four or five six seven eight and hobson shot. You had a lot of he chris. Morgan is the one who transformed fast and furious into what it is now along with justin lin so to say he has nothing to do with this. He's not the architect of you know this world as we know it is patently incorrect <hes> but i do think maybe she's referring to the fact that fast injuries nine which is filming now and is not written by morgan the first in quite some times not written by him. Maybe maybe she's a free movie by itself in a vacuum but i do think weirdly dismissive tweet for somebody who has added more to the series and she ever has but i also don't want to look back down the stairs because i like rodriguez fine by us if you like. This is a tweet from somebody who doesn't know how her movies are being made bread ready. You were sharing some thoughts about your interpretation of rodriguez comments with us in the slack channel earlier. What do you think she might be getting at here here. If anything i feel like maybe you her. There's probably a lack of knowledge here because her saying that chris morgan doesn't have any idea of what the narrative about this i think along the lines of what jacob says to me indicates that maybe what's going to happen with on the larger picture of the fast and furious franchise will likely play out in hobson shaw aw chris morgan is is very much involved in and if anything i think michelle rodriguez is <hes> i guess arrogance about this topic comes from the fact that she's so close close with vin diesel and vin diesel is very much a protective and as a sense of ownership over the fashioned furious franchise that maybe makes her think that like certain decisions probably aren't going to be made without vin diesels approval and that she knows anything and everything that's going on with the franchise but today she's an actress playing a role and she's one on who was you know <hes> even dead for a little while so there's anything inhabit in the fast and furious franchise and i feel like ultimately what happens with han we'll i have some kind of resolution withdraw and i wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing honam shaw teaming up at some point. Maybe in a hobson shah's equal yeah. I'm my only push back to that would be that. I feel like the han may be coming back. In fast nine fast ten like these core movies just to sort of <hes> <hes> i guess give the the conclusion in the closure to the people who've been with the franchise since the beginning instead of i guess pawning off the justice this for hunting in like a hobson shot to for example <hes> but yeah i think for the most part i agree with almost everything else that you just said so. Let's just go ahead and play my interview with chris morgan so i i spoke with him on the phone about s- all sorts of stuff vin diesel i mentioned <hes> i talked to him about the the scenes that dwayne johnson and jason they wanted to see in the hobson shaw script. This interview is mostly about hopkins shaw. It doesn't really get into spoilers or anything. If you haven't caught up with the movie at you. Don't really you have to have to worry about <hes> tuning out you can listen to this and probably enjoy it and this is the first hops and trump show as the first movie that he has co written in the fast and furious franchise so i talked to him about his relationship with drew pearce the guy who wrote ironman three and mission impossible rogue nation or at least he has writing credits on those about how morgan gonna end pierce worked together as writers so here is my interview with chris morgan so when i spoke with you for the fate of furious we were talking about how vin diesel is such a big collaborator collaborator of yours and is a key part of the development process for these fast and furious movies but he did not act in or produce hobson shaw so i'm just wondering if he was involved in any of the story talk about this spinoff. It's one was <hes> you know they. I think they were so focused on nine which was developing at the same time that they're you know kind of bad too hands full with that and we had our hands full with bits and fortunately i have an excellent collaborator in twain johnson as well <hes> so <hes> you know when we when we decide to set out the back up a little bit you know when we <hes> we passed asked a <hes> remember the within the president and put twain and jason against each other and then they just they went to town on each other in salt. That's the moment did like. We knew you the studio news. Specifically the paper went to expand the university's probably with those two guys had a great engine you know they they're affect each other but in the hague each other you know characters that is <hes> and so <hes> you know we can set out <hes> to you know one of the passengers that either always very very large ensemble pieces which is awesome but doesn't give you a whole lot of time to get down into characters. About why are they come from. I'm one of the things that haunt them. <hes> what are the what are the things that ground that mimicked him you know real sorts of people you know rental troubles and then your sibling rivalry and all that stuff <hes> so <hes> only fast entity this would really just decide to on you know come from rumours family. Where does this shock from his issues with his family. Who are the new characters. We haven't met yet <hes> and just <hes> you know we got the it just kind of dream and play and have fun with these characters that we've been living with for a lot of years <hes> and then make it personal as well specifically speaking for join just should be able to bring his smelled heritage in the innovative shellman into such a big global kind of picture is was really fun. I'm curious about writing a script for big. Alpha actors like johnson instate them. What sort of stipulations did you get from them or their people. When writing this movie it'd be like did they want equal screen time or anything like that where you sort of had to like right around twin crafting this screenplay really i mean you naturally augie naturally one <hes> balance screen time just from a story since <hes> anyway but now nobody's nobody's counting lines or anything like that it's <hes> <hes> just characters that they both loved to play and then again they love to get over on each other <hes> so you know knowing that we're going to feed into that with action sequences and fights and personal you know the the things that they ask for generally really. Are you know <hes> can we can. We have a catching moment you know with my daughter. Can we dig into my family history. Those they got handled on all action yes to me. This is essentially like a modern day remake of tango and cash gosh. Was that film a touchstone for you. When you set up paying in cash so did you scum that uh-huh lethal weapon forty eight hours like it yeah all of tar touchdowns. Did you study structurally the <hes>. How did you approach this from a writing standpoint because as the first spin off of this franchise how important was it to really step out into new territory while at the same time trying to retain a sense that this is an adventure that's taking place in a world that we already know oh yeah two pounds entree like <hes> it's fast and furious presents how the shots he wanted to make sure that the people who love hassen furious understand stand that this does take place in the university of fast in our time line the repercussions from this adventure kind of ring out <hes> down the road through through through fast and <hes> you know so you wanna part of the reason the studio really wanted me <hes> kind of on and producing everything in writing and all that to to guarantee that that that fast feel that tone but then also can lend it <hes> you know wait own flavor as wealthy recognized you know it's <hes> something slightly different and special in these <hes> and you know he was largely. Actually it's packed at a we get to dig a little deeper on her characters and their backgrounds but be the comedy for the particular film <hes> there's a little bit more comedy comedy just because of the energy between twain and jason and specifically hottest job also dwayne and jake jason. You know <hes> yeah so. I think it's just it's just as a fan of half and someone who's been involved for awhile. It's you know which one to make sure that you know we are delivering being on the same level in terms of the heart action kind of the you know accepting inclusiveness uh-huh globe-trotting then you know i'm competent we get <hes> a little bit of <hes> came in and he just had done poll two income bombed and his is very pop and very fun really funny guy <hes> so he just looked really to the comedic yeah. This is the first time you have a co writing credit on one of these movies. I'm wondering what the writing relationship was like between you and drew pearson right together or did he come on board and do a separate pass later. There's the basically what happened. Was you know as we're getting into right right <unk> at production you know i'm pretty good as well as writing it and there's a lot of you know we basically just needed extra hands and david it worked with drew previously and <hes> we came in we just got along great and divvied up being divvied up work and they do not come over and vice versa and on top of the benefit of that as well as that he's actually from the u._k. So he the fun dialogue for shock. Laden wouldn't work cool cool this. I mean you mentioned the sort of globetrotting action earlier. This franchise has been compared to the bond movies in terms of the scope before but a secret organization that wants to commit genocide in order to replace human weaknesses. Mrs with mechanical perfection is by far the most bond villain plot is franchises ever seen so what was the thinking behind going that far with the a-t-on theon organization well. I think it is <hes> in terms of <hes> the bond the level of it <hes> the reason that i'll start the beginning <hes> you know we've had this offer like these alpha top guys we've seen them clear room of back guys and they're not daunted by anything we need something to actually stand in their way be sold for medical to beat them down so badly that these two guys who definitely really do not want to work together and respect each other company hate each other the only way for them to possibly even try to the problem of the movie is to work together to beat brixton idris elba our inner phillip <hes> the reason for the <hes> genre shift a little ed <hes> we before we did it on <hes> you know fast five bring into a behind genera- i was just a bunch of research on komo super soldiers and darpa and peter military pack and what they're working on where they think they're going to get and we just decided to give some of those attributes to do. <hes> brixton can make him incredibly formidable and also there's a little bit of a theme and they're like you know <hes> heart versus pack you <music> kind of an old school sort of thing and you know and the you know it turns out that he works for an organization and they're up to sort of nefarious things. We don't even know for sure exactly all the stuff that they're up to in terms of the audience yet <hes> but it was it was fun. It is step into a slightly different genre but not too far and then it's it's five minutes in the future in terms of the actual tactic brixton the bike and speaking of old school. I have to ask you about the character of hot and he is not mentioned in this movie but last time we spoke you said that you've been thinking a lot about that character and if homework to come back in a feature fast movie would have to be in flashback form or would you entertain the idea that he somehow escapes that explosion in the tokyo okay for a lot of questions in there. Let me let me start with. There's a line in this this movie <hes> from shaw right before the ancient weapons balance moa where he's talking to how he says <hes> you know. There's things that i've done and there's thanks for that specifically. He's referring to honda. Okay <hes> in terms of hun. That's why i wrote it that way. In terms of hon con <hes>. I think pun and shaw is going to have one of the greatest archer the fast franchise it is something that is <hes> we've been talking so long and so much about the we wanna be able to devote enough time to to make it really land <hes> <music> but he's an arc of redemption of regrets of <hes> and do you know in terms of justice for nobody feels we also need for that more than i especially son king as a friend and a character that altered the entire time line of the fast university preserved reserved for free additional movies <hes> believe me we are we are the biggest fan and <hes> i wanna make sure that he is <hes> his suffers resolved really well. In terms of i'm just gonna leave the other in terms of in a flashback or you know in every way that is fair enough. I was wondering if hans goats folks taunted you as you were writing lines for decker shot this guy who killed him and essentially got away with it. I mean honestly like on one of my favorite characters. I mean he started the fast journey with me. I mean in terms of the characters also son you know and he is you know it's been and back characters when it comes to mean something when my very favorite characters and you know some someone that i think about often nice and how oughta just exactly how we lay lay out whatever we revealing <hes> at one point in this movie you saw points too many cougar and he talks about a job over in italy deckert shaw changed his name and operate as handsome rob from the italian job for a while. I'm just gonna leave that there. I mean who knows but i will say i remember we were like getting out <hes> decker flair wear and i like looking at the cars. There's a lot of clarity all british cars and then. We're just like oh my god. We got it for them. Yes we must be. Thank you for noticing that you know. It's funny because i i love that. I have a big fan of it <music> but show up to i believe fast. Nine is the first fast movie that you're not writing since tokyo drift. How do you feel about that mm-hmm. Well you know when we were looking to do the spinoff and nine and if both started kind of developing at the same time it was a big priority for the studio you know look it's a big gamble you know for the audience for the studio and you know <hes> to see the dow respond to this been up. Can we deliver fast level entertainment. You know in the spin off the still in her house university fast world world so they just wanted to make sure that every single step of the way that someone who was the i mean they wanted me. They're all the just a guarantee that you know. Everything feels like fast as a different flavor so you understand. This is the heart there you know is the importance of more every character's moral code and the relationship they have to their family whatever her family that may be for them <hes> but the action feel lateral thinking big enough you know that that kind of stuff so it was really so you know as the producer as the writers really a full-time job and you know i think the easiest part was just when i wrote the original script and then got the ball going and then once everything started coming together and you know that's when that's when we basically wreck for shooting you know <hes> we just want to guarantee not everything and we'd all hands on deck. That's actually when we brought in a drood. How are you going to write fast fast ten. Okay all right and then finally time for maybe one more question austin latest on crime of the century. We're really looking forward to that. One loss come on talking <hes> the work. I would just say just just be patient and amazing project we we. I know that it's time travel. Can you tell me what's being like what's the score that the protagonists are going after the personal for him about the joy fair enough all right well. Thanks very much for your time. Chris presented all right. Take care bye all right. Hopefully you guys enjoyed that before. We got listening to it in real time right here edited in uh-huh at all cast work. I especially like the part where you insert best part of the interview here. Thanks guys like the the part where he talked about the cars and the punching all right. I think that's the safest statement you could have made their jacob. I appreciate it <hes> all right so before we wrap up. Where can people find more of your work on line jacob. Let's start with you. <hes> i am running. The ship slash dot com every single day and i'm on twitter. I'm at jacob jacob all bread. I am rowing the ship known as the s._s. slash home dot com and i also i'm on twitter at ethan underscore entertain. 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Doctor Sleep 3-Hour Directors Cut: Weve Got Exclusive Details from Mike Flanagan! - Movie Talk

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Doctor Sleep 3-Hour Directors Cut: Weve Got Exclusive Details from Mike Flanagan! - Movie Talk

"Thank you for listening to this. podcast one production available on Apple podcasts. And podcast one on today's movie talk. We're covering lego possibly moving over to a new studio. We're getting a lot more doctor sleep. There's there's a three hour director's cut on the way and some new trailers including this one here down health happy Friday everyone. It feels like a double dose of Friday right now because not only is the weekend upon us right now but we also have the holidays right around the corner so I don't know I feel like I'm in party mode. You've clearly are ready to party. I got my you know what they call this. I'm I'm nervous to hear the answer. Clause like a Yarmulke Yama clause. Is that seriously a thing or did you just make that. I've never I heard that before fleeing decorate Hanukkah Bush. No you're missing out on how you doing. Good you dress the part today. I'm ready I I. Was You know this movie movie. That's what I'm all about you. We do have about another live movie talk for you on Monday. So we're not leaving you just yet but on top of that Monday live show. We also have a very special end of the year episode. That we're going to release next week and we're also New Year's Day GonNa have twenty twenty preview you so you got a lot more content from ubi talk and all of the collider show's coming your way even during the holidays all right. Let's get into the first topic today. which is this this lego situation according to HR universal is in talks with Lego for an exclusive partnership? You guys might know. The previous lego movies were released released by Warner Brothers but they're deal expired. This fall so Lego is looking for a new home. And according to this report a bunch of studios were trying to to strike a deal with Lego but it seems like universal is the one leading the pack. Maybe it'll end there. I am curious with this. Move though because we know that the first Lego movie came came out did super well but then it kind of fell and then fell and then fell from there. Do you think that switching studios could be the key to kind of breathing more box office life into this franchise. I mean the key should be probably not releasing to lega movies a year like they did with Nan and Ninja go. Oh but there was a little bit more time in between those and and this year's lego movie too. I mean that movie came out earlier this year. Does anyone even remember it coming out. I inside and admittedly so it was lego movie to Alito which I did circle back to watch to watch fighting with my family but those were all all the screenings that got kind of sucked up in the sundance craze. So that's why I miss. It wasn't for lack of interest. Did you sit. Everything's not awesome. Even Legoland is now i. I never saw lego movie really. I never saw not never saw a single one and that is the problem with this franchises. I know there there will be plenty of people our age. who say be so great? You gotta see it. This franchise is not appeal to adults at all. Okay I mean I'll I'll go see Tory story. Five six six seven eight nine ten but this does not get me to the theater. This is for kids and so they have to find a way you know I i. I don't think it's the the chain of studio matters. I don't think that people care about what what logo comes up before the movie like. I just think that Lego has a ceiling and unless they figure out a way to make it more adult like into the spider verse and appeal to adults a little bit more. You're not going to see the results change. Even though Lego I believe since twenty fifteen. It's the world's largest toy company company by revenue. Even that doesn't kind of push it over as far as attracting more than just kids because there are many adult out there who still bilad goes. I think most some follow me on twitter together a Lego pretty recently breath it I actually came over and we videoed it. You can find it on my channel. We did a Lego race and we each built a AT&T. Oh Wow this one wasn't I'm not. I'm saying legos aren't cool. I love playing with legos and I can't wait till my niece grows up legos with her but it do. I want to spend seventeen dollars to go see a Lego story. No and I don't think that most people my age are interested in that I I will agree with you to some extent. I think what the first movie did head that made it really worked for me. Is there something about the animation that kind of brings back the nostalgia of actually assembling Lego and breaking it down and building something new out of it and it had had a real human touch to it. I think that was lost. A little specifically uninjured ago but the Batman. One did pretty well. And as someone who likes you know Batman men that brand and all the other warner brothers characters that they put in that movie. I thought that one was pretty clever. And successful. Obviously can't speak to the second one but I mean one way or the other quality-wise be y you look at these numbers. Two Thousand Fourteen first movie came out made four hundred sixty eight million worldwide after that in two thousand seventeen. You had the one two punch of Batman which had three eight hundred eleven million then for an Giaga dropped all the way down to one hundred twenty three million and then this year's Lego movie to the second part only made one hundred ninety one million dollars worldwide. It's alarming yeah especially for an animated movie that cost a pretty penny and takes a lot of time. Yeah I mean there were a lot of development issues on the second one to which I don't know if that played into anything I mean Jeff is suggesting that anything people here. Here's the thing. The lego movie had an original story for the most part that didn't rely on pre existing characters. Although I think Batman and Superman were in it right they they still have familiar characters that make an appearance. They weren't driving the story. It was an original story so then you make a Lego Batman movie another tag at University about making a Lego Jurassic sick movie. So it's like what did we know that it was a coverage. I mean this is the question Russian. It's like are you. Are you creating original stories with Lego characters or you just GonNa have lego bounce around from studio to studio and they're gonNA pipe put their best characters characters and make them into Lego things so you're going to get you know fast and furious. lego movie Jurassic Park Lego movie and then five years later. They're going to go to Sony. You'RE GONNA get spider-man Lego movie like you know like that that how this is GonNa work sorry I just can't contain myself over Jurassic. Like they did this year. There's an show. I've never saw it but that that excites me a little bit. But the other other thing and I've been saying this ever since the first Lego movie came out. I still think that if it was over at Warner Brothers they should've gone not R. rated PG Thirteen and made Allegra Your logo slasher movie with you know fake. Lego blood and stuff like Lego Jurassic is interesting because drastic may be franchise that is deemed a little bit too old for for younger children with the scary dinosaurs and stuff so if you can take that. Ip and then make get for real young kids four or five years old making Lego Jurassic thing. You know that's smart. I mean I understand why they go that route because you're essentially uniting really big brands together gather assuming that it's going to give you a better shot at the box office but the thing that I'm wondering most right now is by moving over to universal. Do you lose the look doc in the feel of what these lego movies are. Because even if you didn't like the stories there's no denying that the animation style in these is I it's exceptional. Yes but I mean it's not like Warner brothers. Did that animation. They hired a studio animal logic. So universal could still higher animal logic but that also the immediately. When I saw this headline I took what I knew from? Lego as it existed and I kind of like put an illumination filter over it and I became a little less interested. I like elimination. I just don't think suits this brand. They also have dreamworks now to universal portfolio filter on this though but to Jeff's point like what makes makes a movie a Lego movie like Jurassic World with like sort of stylized characters. At least the first movie there they were building things and I don't know like is it just going to be kind of movie. Yeah just that were. The animation style is just like like I know the Lego Games. are very successful with with those with that kind of animation. I don't know it's just originally. I would have thought it was a one and done idea because I think the way you go about about this. Is You tap into the nostalgia which they very much did in that. First one but relying on brands doesn't seem like the good approach longevity wise and also as excited as I am about the idea of seeing anything Jurassic onscreen. I don't understand how you really tap into that with address story. I don't think you give me the feeling feeling that I'm building Jurassic Legos through that. I think that's where you lose that kind of touch right. I mean there was an original idea that were working on. Universal could resurrect called the billion billion brick race. That was kind of like. It's a mad mad mad world. Lego thing drew Pearce was co writing and directing at one point. What was the Lego documentary? I don't I never I saw there was like brick memory or something I I feel like I watched some of it and not the full thing but I that's what came to mind was a competitive. LEGO reality show coming out soon. That that Lord Malaria producing right sounds fun. Because I'm always amazed when I go to whether it's festival or these conventions and you see these incredible. Lego works of art. Like I WANNA see somebody building that right and how many hours they put into it and like having to start over if they mess up. or where's the peace right. Take the million pizzas. It would be a really exciting pivot if they took the right Salako and went that route instead and kind of shocked us all even though I have a feeling at this is purposely being bought and arranged for the Animation Division. I think they should just do Warner brothers should've hung onto leg on just remade all its adult dramas the flap this. The following. Just mercy motherless Brooklyn the lego movie I mean I guess I would be curious to see little little parodies of that all right Oscar thing to do. If the Lego people talk to the academy and do little parodies of each got involved the Oscars in whatever year. That was where they handed out a Oscar. lego statues get Michelle Gandara to do it. That's that's GonNa stop motion all right well. One one can dream but we're going to move on to something that we know we're going to get in the very near future right now. A doctor sleep four K.. Blu Ray that's going to include thirty Minutes of extra footage so this movie was already really long. Apparently they're adding thirty minutes to get to a three hour. RUN TIME and they're calling it a director's cut. We actually have a whole bunch of exclusive quotes from director. Mike Flanagan about what you can expect on this. But I'm just curious based on surface level headline alone you here. You can own a a three hour cut of Dr Sleek does that excite either of you puts me to sleep. Are you kidding me right now. Perry was had some strong elements. I I will admit I liked rose. The hat I liked the young girl but No I would never in a million years watch a three hour kind of this already very very long very boring just because I'm curious. Now what parts do you hope that they have more footage of rather than maybe some of the stuff that didn't work for you more rose the hat okay. and that's what everybody wants right like. I hope it's not more Danny Torrance because that was the most boring lead character put on film this year old Danny or young Danny. Did you like young Danny. At at least he was whatever. All right happy responded to my Hashtag of releasing the Flanagan cut. And that's what I'm excited about. It also speaks to how. How sort of confident Warner Brothers was in this movie if they finish the visual effects they do this at the same time as post-production production so that's the thing that he points out in these quotes but first of all I? I saw this headline and I'm thrilled. I did really love the movie quite wait a bit. I sat through it a number of times even at the lengthy runtime right now and as a big fan of the book. There's a lot more that I would wanna see in something like this. I think the cut that we saw theatrically. He played very well but I am not going to say no to more but what Flanagan told us already brought up the idea that one of others let him finish this cut. I mean they have finish it should be FX. They did another sound mix additional score was composed. They went into this. He says that he was in the post production process knowing that he was gonna the have the opportunity to release this cut. which made it more? It made it easier for him to make difficult decisions as far as what to cut out of the theatrical cutting you know one of others having that kind of confidence and letting him know about that early on is something special. Because it's it doesn't necessarily become old. Release the Flanagan Cut. He made the theatrical to cut that he wanted. That's what we got and then there's extra footage that he just doesn't WanNa be left on the cutting room floor. Never to be seen again right. I I was a big fan of this movie to. I'm trying to think about what that was left out of the book that he didn't put in. Do you remember so all right let me get into some of these quotes because he does mention a few things that I wanted more of so I I stop just a t this all up a little. He said that we shot a lot of material for this movie. And I always knew it wouldn't all fit I was reticent to call this director's cut it I as I absolutely love and stand by the cut. I made for our theatrical release but there was stuff I actively decided to remove from that cut that I missed and I think that I think would and Sorry I'm messing up this quote and that I would think about even weeks after the fact moving onto some of the specifics tease. There are some big new scenes for sure. You'RE GONNA get new material throughout the film. Some of it is brand new but some of it is extended or altered versions of the scenes that we already saw they. I always knew it was too long. But they worked alongside the theatrical cut through our post and he made that made it easier for them to cut certain things now for the specifics. Some of my favorite stuff involved young Danny and Wendy there. There's some terrific material with Alex. So that I'm thrilled is restored here and we'll be familiar to fans of the book book. There's also a fair amount of new stuff involving young labral in the films. I act learning about her shine and how it affects her parents. All in all I think this cut is more more literary than the theatrical cut it very much feels like reading a novel and it is even broken into chapters which gave this cut of very fun structure so I am excited to see more Alex. So because I. I thought she was incredible as as Wendy. I mean I can't believe how well she she nailed that performance but specifically the stuff that I'm talking about from the book that I'm alone you know I would've liked to have seen more of in the movies. What he says about labral with her powers? And what what the effect of her powers the effect of her powers on her parents specifically I'm also a big fan of Jocelyn Donahue who I don't really thinks gets a lot to do in this movie we'll be so I'm hoping they'd be that up a little bit. Where's the guy on? The bear cost him. That's what I want to know from the shining. He's not the only ghost that's not there at the end of the movie. Well yeah maybe maybe. Maybe that'll make an appears one quick shot. I don't think so. I don't think that whole scenario is in the. I mean. It can't be yeah. I thought that maybe I've just been watching the shining to recently and it's like all like marching into my head right now. I mean the shining did not do well in theaters right so I wonder if if Warner Brothers always saw this is more of a home entertainment play. That's why they gave him more leeway to do his director's cut and finish it in everything with the sound. I just wonder if they always suspected that this was not going to really take off the theaters. It's an interesting thought. I'd be surprised by any studio going into a wide theatrical. Release with a hot property. Like to legitimately have that mentality. But I don't know it does kind of make some sense to me I don't I don't Wyatt. Nobody saw it on the theater. I can't really put a finger on that either I. I mean the fact that it's after Halloween. I think maybe it was just a awesome. Usually I mean I'm not I'm not one of these but usually people lose interest in harm material immediately. After how like you switch. Gears here is it's like all the The holiday items stores immediately when Halloween is over all that stuff goes in the trash or the storage room. And it's all about Christmas and Thanksgiving. I I mean Dr Sleep. What kind of title is that? It's not really about a doctor and who goes to see a movie about sleep. I also wonder if you McGregor have something to do with it. He's he doesn't open open. Movies is a two and a half movie. Two hour movie about a A drunk like an alcoholic who is not a lot of fun to hang out with for two and a half hours so I do think that maybe if they had done the shining to straightforward. That probably would have gotten a little more attention. But I'm calling Dr Sleeps even even if it stuck with just the doctor sleep title. Though I thought they had done a pretty decent job marketing. They release. They released some good trailers that I thought blended the new material with the familiar visuals of the shining very well that I think got the point across but you know we always have to reiterate the fact that we live in a bubble reset online all day and we look for this kind of stuff you gotta make sure it breaks out beyond that and maybe that's where they kind of missed the mark. I just WANNA see mark romanek Overlook Hotel Prequel remember Yes that would have been awesome. I WANNA see more of Mark Romanek in general yes. At this point I will settle on. Just Doctor Sleep finding success somewhere. Don't worry because I think it deserves it. Fan of Flanagan. Can't wait to see everything he does after this but I'm glad he got to Release certain genes. That are super important to him all right before we move onto topic number three which is a double dose of trailers. We've got some stuff to tell you about on the Collider Video Youtube Channel brand new episode of Comic Book Shopping Up and running right now with watchman's Yahya Abdul Mateen's second. Here's a little preview. Welcome to call them shopping. We're here at Golden Apple Comics in the heart of Hollywood. I'm here with a rule. Mateen the secondary. Oh that's right Black Manta and spoilers for later a character Sir in Washington and I'm learning right now by the way this is a list of I. Sounds like the Matrix. Yeah I mean now. I haven't seen the last episode yet So this whole thing has been like me dancing around and knowing what happens but we'll spoilt me episode probably not but first let's comics all right who's ready to talk awesome trailers because we have two good ones today we were lucky enough to get the tenant one yesterday and today we are talking about the Kevin Hart six part art documentary series on Net flicks. Don't f this up. And then we also have the trailer for downhill. Let's kick it off with the Kevin. Hart Trailer I. What is your impression impression of this or you're looking forward to getting behind the scenes? Look at some of the stuff. He's gone through. Yes but as a six part documentary series feels like a lot like I mean in there that much. That interesting about Kevin Hart behind the scenes. I don't know The trailer is a good tease. Though I was expecting vexing like a really like kind of jam packed two hour documentary whenever a six hour. Things is a lot to ask but I've always liked Kevin. Hart I like his candor. I thought that the Oscar situation that he got put in having you know had been in some twitter controversies of my own. I felt for the Guy Yeah I think it would have been really cool to see him host the Oscars and I'm sorry that that didn't happen for him but I am looking forward to seeing the stuff about his marriage and cheating scandal like let's see how raw this really gets. Yeah you know. It's it's always tough to judge in certain situations because we're outsiders looking in we never know what the Nitty Gritty of the truth of the matter is but you know. It's an interesting thing to be getting this. When and I believe they point this out in the collider dot com article definitely caught my eye as well it it? It does feel like Kevin Hart documentary very much made by Kevin Hart which is probably worth keeping in mind but I I am a big fan of his work and I'm curious to see it and I found that trailer. Oh really engaging and it definitely made me WanNa learn more about his side of the story do we know that they're hour. Long episodes to formation. I don't think we have that just yet. We do know that it's hitting Netflix. On December twentieth. So we'll be able to find out sooner rather than later. Yeah so are you going to watch it on the twenty seventh. Yeah I love Kevin. He's great I mean yeah. This isn't as cool as like dropping black mirror episodes at the at the end of the year. But it's a nice little add onto onto your subscription. Do you think they're going to drop something I think about that. I haven't even thought about that either now that you just brought it up. It's like with all the success they had had with bender snatch and burdock last year. I mean maybe they are banking on on six hundred dollars. Being the next spurred by this is the brilliance of Netflix. They don't take a year to market their biggest things. They can just snap their fingers and out of nowhere. That could be a teaser for black near. That's coming in two or three days I would not mind if Black Chimera became a holiday tradition. It should have been. I don't I don't know why they don't have anything ready right now. The Rock did something like this didn't he. He he did something like this series slated his zone Docu series my wrong about that not entirely aware of that but then I could have just missed it. I don't know somethings like ring a bell enough. Kevin Hart is the first a-list or to do this but I feel like these guys they just. They know that they can sell anything right. So it's like well if I just hire a camera crew to follow me around for six months. Obviously you know some stuff's going to come up in that time I have full creative control over the edit and everything and then I can just go sells you know six hours of content and Netflix. It's like it's just found money for these guys. It's so easy just because we were talking about this the other day and you weren't here What do you make of the current situation this this year for an Oscar because the rumor going around right now is they're considering going hosts list? Are you in favor of that or would you rather them go back to the original format. I mean I I like having a host but I also didn't mind last year show and moved quickly. They still had a-list celebrities. Come on. I think that's the plan this year to still do like a really fun intro route to get the show you know started off on the right foot But I I just like the old school tradition of having a host but I you can see why they wouldn't need one after last year in the way that performed a string billy crystal back. That's what I say. Do you think the host thing. Actually they had anything to do with the ratings or was was the higher ratings last year just from curiosity given the Kevin Hart situation and also the idea of them going in host. Listen people just wondering how that was going to turn out. I don't know where they're like really popular movies last year. I can't even remember. I can tell you exactly why the ratings went up last year Gaga. Yeah Okay Yup do you think it's all eighty gotTa Lady Gaga Yes. She deserves a hundred percent on the credit. For last year's ratings I dunno percent but I probably would give her a significant amount. We did have a whole bunch of movies last year that we're nominated that we're box office hit. So that's probably a factor too I'm curious to see. He had that one shapes out and the only thing I could do in a quick. Google search is Tracked Down Something called the Rock the epic journey of Dwayne Johnson. But I I believe came out a while ago. It's and it's got a wrestling picture of him. So I don't know if it's the same type of Docu series that we're going to get with Kevin Hart but let's shift over to downhill downhill right now. the downhill trailer with With Will Ferrell and Julia Louis Dreyfus. I think this looks good. It's got me hyped or even more or hype than it already was for Sundance Twenty. Twenty what are you guys make of his trailer. Are you eager to see it. You haven't seen for you know and this was a reminder that I really need to see it you you do really really good. Yeah so I've heard I don't know it looks it. Looks like the Hollywood remake of forest mature. It's is it the exact same you know tone and style or is there something to set it apart to say we need another rendition of this story. The original is much more somber and a lot darker than on this but yeah I mean it looks fine watched the original. I know I definitely need to go. I think the Will Ferrell Julia. Louis Dreyfuss pairing is great on paper like like. That could be really good. I love seeing her on the big screen. I'm so we don't see nearly enough for loved enough said with her and Gandolfini rat Jim Ration Nat Faxon. I don't know if I love their brand of comedy I didn't love the way way back the way that a lot of people did and they haven't made a movie since then. I think this this is only their second film. They tried to do this movie. The heart and it stalled a couple of times although it is coming back around for next year I feel like downhill. It took a long time and developments like this. I don't know there's something that's giving me Pas about this like you're sort of intimated like Kinda goofy American remind definitely need to go out of my way to watch force majeure before we go to Sundance and actually see this. I wonder if that's going to influence fluence opinions to you know the thing is like which one did you see. I because I mean we've had the conversation with bombshell recently. This holds up well against force majeure comparison. It gets me all right. The big bearded guy. He was the one of the other couple in the original version. Guy From game of thrones. It's a big beard. It's going on the list. I feel like the the end of year times is it's coming and going quickly. Which means I gotTa move on the twenty nine hundred movies and Canada? Whatever whatever I want Yeah Will Ferrell a role like this isn't like a totally stupid round of Daddy's home two? I gas is a big daddy's home guy. But you're right daddy's home. I mean we'll Farrell's about to do a bunch of like Netflix. So this may be the last theatrical release we for a while oil interesting Holmes Watson on the brain so it's like I am curious though Jeff because we have sundance on the horizon thin looking forward to twenty twenty. What are you most looking forward to? Is there anything that's caught your eye. So far yes there is We got a trailer for it last week. Actually it is promising. Young Woman Who Stars in that Carey Mulligan movie. Oh is going to be awesome semi no a little bit too much about it so I have to watch what I say but I. I think that's going to be a blast. I'm looking forward to the house. Movie Run Sweetheart. Moving forward to Zola Ola. The stripper movie covering that and then the big one actually for me is loss girls. Are you familiar with last girls This is the I believe. It's now any Ryan in the lead and it's about the the craigslist killer up at In upstate New York and Gilgo Beach It's a yeah it's just like a a a a great true crime. I think it's her. Yeah Bhai Bob. Bob corker definitely guys. If you haven't you're looking for a last minute Christmas gift and and in you know someone who likes true crime get them Robert Coker's last girls. I think could be a real powerhouse. Movie Okay Interesting. Maybe I'll queue that up you'll love it. Yeah Yeah Right. I think the one that I am most looking forward to is the The New Ben Zeitler movie because of Beasts of the southern wild has. I've been So are you really a very big question. Mark it's been a long. It's I know taking a long time with it. I think it's going to be a problem. I think it's going to be a problem. I love how you're already ruining my hopes and dreams and the festival it looks like hanging. There's the southern while there's tons of filmmakers out there who take a good deal of time to to work on another film after the after their first look very similar. Okay wonder how the Peter Pan Stuff is that it does look it does look very similar. But if that if that's the style of filmmaking that speaks to him and it's like a similar look and feel but with a different story right fine by me as long as it's super effective yeah I mean I'm curious I'm I'm not I'm not as down but you know it could. It could be great. I'm not down I'm just like I'm surprised that that's what you're mostly I've been. I've been waiting for another movie from him for a while. I mean that was one of the I mean. It was one of my favorite movies at that particular year. But still when I think of the most incredible edible I features I've ever seen that is so high on the list. That movie really got me. Maybe I think you'll really like actually Perry. Okay let's hear here it up but I always heard about the script was his house. It's like our movie starring a Young African couple and I think Matt Smith. Oh I do so. I started going through the midnight irs yesterday because I'll I'll show them to keep an eye on that one just a couple of random. Titles that I've been looking at mainly because we're T- we're trying to make interviews happen for the is Wander darkly Was On my was on my list. bad hair which I think is on the midnight lineup. Lino who I'm I'm a big Fan of I've got my eye on relic. I love Emily Mortimer. So I'm excited to see her in something. What else we got here? We've got the right in stimpy doc. I also wonder if how deep they're going to go to John on K.'s kind of dalliances and proclivities You know that's been a major area of contention online especially for the last few years. But Yeah I'm looking for Andy Sandberg's Palm Springs And then Miranda July's Kazillionaire. Oh Yeah I have my eye on. I believe it's the first weekend of the festival. The Nest with Carrie. COON is another another one. That I'm working out for What else do we got here? Black bear with Aubrey. The Plaza is up there now called. The list is already getting out of control. I do this every single year when like pace yourself. You don't have to put everything down on the first shot or otherwise you're gonNA have a harder the time we get down and I using but I am very excited about timmy failure. which we we saw previewed at twenty three last year? Which looks real? It's Tom McCarthy didn't spotlight but it's like a weird little kid detective story where you not in that. No it looks really cute. And it's GONNA be. Yeah just in February so you don't have to wait too long Sunday Sundance. Yeah thanks just making this Stephen Longer for me. Now that's not a problem problem So clearly we are going to Sundance in twenty twenty and we can't wait to bring you so much great coverage from the festival. It's going to be a good time. We're going to survive. It's GonNa be great all right. Let's get into the live chat questions here. We have a whole bunch kicking it off with good old Jay. Scott for real. Who's writing just caught the trailer for come to daddy starring? Elijah Wood noticed Matt had a couple of poll quotes there with that in mind. What has been your own up? PULL quote use in films marketing campaign that you're most proud of my pillow fund one. Yeah your own I mean I. I don't like the quote because it's like the movie American needs to see right now. I'm Lee Ann. What do I know that But but I was very very honored to be quoted on Patriots Day. Oh Okay Yeah. That movie beats being set in Boston. Mental out to me and I think it's excellent. I'm a big Fan of that movie. I I would be proud of that quote too. I was quoted on a thing for cabin in the woods which I showed it to me really early and I was like oh I have to get behind in this way not that it helped the box office at all. You know. That's nice else I guess Uh Mine kind of did this movie could okay Mine was for the twenty thirteen evil dead remake. I saw that at South by southwest when it premiered and I got I loved it then I still love it now and it was my very first. DVD box quote where it was very clearly on the back of it. To the point that my Nanna owns it and it sits like on a books like mine as Evil Dead Yes. She's her copy sitting on her bookshelf. And I have a framed one that fed a and Jane Levy signed for okay. And I don't know I only saw that movie. Because of your quote yeah I know Shit waiting to best buy for a lead the quotes on the back and I just turned the boxes around to the back and so many people were like I saw it and it was facing the wrong way but I saw your name on it so I bought it. What was your first film at you recorded on my first one ever might have been the Michael actually speaking of Emily Mortimer her and Michael Caine in Harry Brown around okay I gave it. I gave it a four out of five stars and the quote was just four stars like nobody. Nobody really knows that it was four out of five but I was still happy and it was also in your New York Times which felt very cool to me. Yeah I liked what you just said sounded like an indie movie to me speaking of Emily Mortimer. Now she's on my brain sundance twenty twenty one another one that. I have framed that I absolutely adore is actually a full page in the In The New York Times. And it's for you're so you'RE GONNA make a face at me for Vampire Academy member saw that movie. No no no I I I fully stand and by that. I think that that that movie. That movie is an absolute blast. If you haven't seen it it's it's funny Zoey. Deutch is incredible in it and I think it just got what caught up in a really crappy marketing campaign where it was. It was one of those situations where the studio didn't even screen it for critics before so everybody went into it with the assumption that this was going to be a steaming pile of crap and then it wasn't and then it got next to no reviews. It was framed every quote he had on some B horror movie wallpaper Walker late phases Jalan good good one. That one's going going down in the record books. Remember I remember that I gave a really like exuberant quote for dread. That was like it'll eight or something like that. If you're not in the year see it'll be blown away or something like that and I remember that being very D'Amato ask you well. Mine was the the groomsmen the Ed Burns like two thousand six comedy or so how. Yeah Big Ed Burns. There was an in every man like there's something recently that I caught that had A. Oh it was the wind. Did you ever see the wind wasn't good. It's an atmospheric Harvey argumenty. I thought it was great. have been set in Boston Manichean. It's very windy. There are movies are set in Boston. It should be more Boston said a DC and it would have gotten an all right Let's go for. Oh Dorian Park sent in this question. Why is the best very clever that that is not getting you? Were not the best because he's not in the studio today we're Dorian come here. Come Party with us. No EP he can. He does a great job all right. Let's go for this one from the Geeky. GATOR WHO's writing the two thousand decades seemed to be dominated by fantasy films comes with Lord of the Rings Harry Potter Pirates. The twenty tens where clearly dominated by superhero movies. What John Roy do you think will dominate the twenty twenties decade they continue to be superheroes courtroom dramas baby? They're coming back in a big way. Actually maybe isn't my big theory. With the conjuring three is that I want it to be the reverse. Where the beginning parts of the exorcist? And then the end part is the courtroom in drama. So maybe you're on to something like the devil. Devil made me do it. And it's about the like the first case in history where someone was on trial for murder and claimed that they were possessed. Oh Yeah No. It's a really interesting idea but I think it would also be a really interesting approach approach to truly turn the John on its head and format the film that way but it's probably not gonNa have him but that would give some some weight to your courtroom drama idea. I'm trying to think of the answer for this. What like genre seems to be like popping off all I can really think of right now in trying to to predict are the things that are going to the things that are starting to fizzle out? Now we're not gonNA fully feel the repercussions of until like twenty twenty two going out. We'll like we were talking about eighty s Talca and I bet you anything. A whole bunch of studio already have nostalgia based pieces in going into production separate release in twenty twenty and beyond you never know what can happen with the superhero genre. I know it's a cliche to talk about superhero fatigue. But eventually you know they got a pivot in some sense. That's another thing I mean I. It does not look like we're going to see another star wars movie in the very near future. So that's kind of out of the way I mean maybe maybe the twenty twenties. This is going to be dominated by Avatar. Who knows because I was reading a headline to a story? I believe it's actually on DOT com. Where it's you know Avatar was the highest earner that nobody ever talks about which I do think is very true. And I've been an Avatar Naysayer for a while but who knows maybe when that first movie comes back it could it. Could you know strike gold again. Rise to the challenge attack. I learned never to bet against James Cameron was saying I think I read it this morning. That like he was very confident. Avatar to without grows and game I mean that's a crazy thing to say but he's he's James Cameron's I'm inclined to believe him I will I will say though. The answer is music so whether it's music bio-pics is. We've started to see at the end of this decade Akkadian beaming rhapsody Rochman or just musicals. Like I'm very curious to see how cats performs after like greatest showman even Les Miz. The musical really. Well we're GONNA have in the heights coming. There's going to be a wicked movie. We're getting west side story. They're going to do guys and dolls like this could be a big decade for Music Zig bio-pics and musicals two questions for you. You seem very confident in that wicked movie. Yeah I think it'll happen especially I gotta tax credit. I've been waiting the very very very bullish about wicked. been bullish about it. For how many years. Here's here's an interesting thing too. Is that should. Disney regained regained the rights to the superheroes in Florida. The marvel land at Universal Studios in Orlando would be re themed two-wicket wait. There's there's been a plan in place for years. So should the movie come out and should Disney get those rights back. They're going to pull the trigger on that workplace as much becomes. The custer is as much as I love wicked. I'm not sure if that's the best idea in for a penny in for a pound with the other question is because I can't help myself now. Have you seen cats. I'm not going to either like I. I would have gone to that. You know. Screening that everybody everybody went to instead. I saw star wars that night but after the reviews and everything I think I'm good. You don't even want the experience of seeing something like that with a theater full of people. No I'm not paying eighteen dollars to go see a movie that I know is going to be bad there care about the cider illness over over experiences over storytelling. There's no good story I'm not there now. Yeah if that's your that's your stance you do not go to see cats but that's that's been the challenge of reviewing a movie like that is like I can't tell you to go see a movie if that's your priorities. When you go to see one by as someone who great value experience and will never forget it? I don't know there was something fun about that. Missed the window though like I didn't go see it for free and I'm just GonNa you know. I am curious about the animation because that's another like Lion King King type thing where it's like. This is an animated movie. No one's really talking about it as such NBC. The same company that Lang facts. I don't know it's an interesting quagmire. You saw with a room full of our friends and colleagues. I think it was it was like a screening open. It was open up to more reports. That people burleigh giving this movie a Standing Ovation. I don't think I'd want I was super indicastors. Last the last tweet that I saw that used the term standing ovation said said it was like a you know a poking fun at the movie standing ovation wasn't a genuinely like this movie was great. I think they had a batch. It crazy time. Did you hear that. They Shit when they showed it for the junket. It was only seventy five percent finished. Oh Yeah Yeah I did hear about that. I think they were they. Were just finishing the movie like this area very close to the release crazy guys. If you see cats I need to know what you think seen it. I need to know all right. Let's take one more question question before we say goodbye. This one comes from S. N Don L. BE SORRY IF I'm pronouncing that wrong. What recently released film do you feel has been underappreciated? So far for me. It's the new Sterling K.. Brown and Lucas hedges movie. Wave's loved waves great. Great Yeah Kelvin Harrison Junior also in that movie a big Fan of his he is great and waves. Yes other other than that recently recently. The Mr Rogers movie never is really talking about went away. Yeah Queen in Queen and Slim did pop a little bit. It's having is having a nice run at the box office but yeah I would urge people to see that than already did. Here's here's the movie. Nobody's talking about. Okay which is crazy to me. Because it's the front runner for a major award. Judy nobody is talking about this movie. And she's maybe supposed to win US actress. I feel like that's that story. The Oscar story for Judy is already done. It's like it came out everyone's in agreement Yup. She's the front runner. Now we can move on. I mean it feels like the same thing as Glenn close with the wife. It's like all we ever talked about. Is Judy was a good movie. The quality of the movie You know besides the point I think just the narratives are kind of the same. It's like a came came out. It came out they wrote it in stone. That was that it. Everyone moved on with their lives and it was just a thing through two awards night well to this performance is actually gaining some steam. But I don't hear anybody are you talking about it. Which is painting glory? The which is an amazing movie and Bandera says incredible. And it's still playing. I think it's at the sunset five here and you know it's it's still out there you've got. It is absolutely wonderful trying to think of something that came out recently that maybe should be getting awards. Love that's not but most of the sleep. Oh Yeah of course. Most of those movies came out earlier in the year that I would like to push a little more. So I'll the lighthouse kind of fizzled out. Actually now that I'm thinking about it that did did gets a black and white about two Weirdos movie but I understand why it did not. I didn't love the movie but I do greatly admire the movie and I admire Robert Eggers for just making the movie. He really wanted to me with a style that I have not seen recently for sure so I think if you I just want to see a movie with great craftsmanship whether that story is for you or not. There's definitely worth it going to be on digital soon in the mail. How is there not a tongue in Cheek Oskar Campaign for Matthew mcconaughey and the beach bum? I still have to watch the was on her neon I was looking at that and I I was thinking in however Nazi cause I missed it. I miss it. At southbound. I was all sad about it but now now it's time it's it's a mess. I didn't care for it at all but it seems like one of those performances allow allow James Franco and harmonies other movies spring. Breakers where it's like you could rally the troops and get some blogger support for that performance that neon pack it also. Oh had mono Senate which. I wouldn't mind seeing get a little more award season buzz. We actually reviewed it on movie. Talk a couple months back and it's it's excellent. It's excellent excellent. Not Not a fan no love minus. I really wanted to. You're entitled to your opinion but the parasite parasite was great not pay the platform. We don't know the soon we don't have the platform until two thousand twenty. I was all excited to just a platform it's encrypt crept. Can you explain the concept. Yes ashore high-concept tar movies just set in like this gigantic tower and like the people on top get to eat first and then like the trade goes down down down so by the time it gets the bottom. There's no food left and so every month like you wake up on a new level so it's like. Are You GonNa Starve that month. Or you're gonNA eat like the rich and it's all about like Ken. Can they make it so that the trade gets down to the bottom and they're still food on on it so that everyone can enjoy or will the people on top always help themselves more food than they really need. Oh Wow when is this coming. Who is putting it out flex? Okay okay okay images handy of that. Good Job Adam thank you all right. Let's close it out on a great recommendation for twenty twenty the platform. We'll keep you updated on one that actually gets a release date over net flicks Drew Jeff. Thank you so much for your time sort of gets me. Thank you for being our audience. Say I don't know if you saw him walking around the set at all but we have an adorable puppy in here today. Adam and the booth during the live Chat Dory. We love you so much. Thank you guys so much for your hard work right. Now you're going to liken liken share this video and then you're going over to collider live because they have a brand new episode kicking off ten. AM PT. I might be walking over there myself now but in until Monday today. We have one more live episode for you Monday morning so tune in for that. Enjoy mailbag this weekend and have a great time

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#375 - Nick Frost

The Empire Film Podcast

1:11:19 hr | 1 year ago

#375 - Nick Frost

"On the podcast this week we delve deep into the non horrible history over a special guest Mr Nick Frost else talk about it plus the usual news nonsense on the movie podcast that is still struggling to get over the horror of Joe Pepsi's rap video well. Here's the thing are you gonNa tell you. She can't wrap. You're not you're just not absolutely I'm Chris you and welcome to the podcast this week. I'm joined by two colleagues to of of such lethal cunning. We have a GIG Queen Helena Harra. Hello how are you. I'm good thank you. Yes fantastic and we have whatever the Hell James Dyer is James Chris how are you. I'm good pigott excellent bus every now and again show. We are very very lucky to be joined by temporary colleague of such lethal cutting somebody sits in for most of the show. I'm delighted to say that today we are joined but actor writer on all round man's man man about town. Mr Nick Frost Goods <music> here of course currently starring in horrible histories rotten Romans apparently check my urine. He loves going to happen. Yeah no musical number those lots of musical numbers in this movie you don't I was lying Orion. Furious Furia Film Donaldson in films is done well. It's it's very interesting you mention keeping fury because tended that my name is really sold the back went. A million terrible nays can't do it. It's filled Yacob Syndrome a couple of weeks ago. People were buying on twitter about the fact that it was the seventh anniversary of the opening ceremony of the Olympics especially from me because you may not remember the snake but that is the day of the opening ceremony of Olympics. I was in a car park on a roof of the car park as somewhere that's where it was watching you and crystal down to the big dance fight and keeping fury covers that land Zairean yeah someone else I was in like a big Asda near me the other day and someone was following me. WanNa go my kids. I'm spider sense tingles. You see people kind of follow me around so they open you up. If you come to my house I and he said work the D._N._C.. Guys you don't file wow this is kinda cool talking about women and so it was it was a cracking it was very hot wasn't yeah. It was incredibly hot. I wasn't very the peg cameo yeah. That was Kinda cool to shoot. It was fun but well. What are your memories of that dance fight? I didn't think I was still that point when I was embarrassed that people were watching me downs I think my memories were they had bought like a big ten for the cost to sit in and company to drop off air conditioning units. We just sat the Baltic Leaf frozen meat locker to go out and so I don't do that kind of business while people like me. Regular schmos had to sweat this assures yeah yeah well at least the Cuban feel right. If you're yes yeah you want to be steam but yeah I mean you could see Heathrow in the background and I'm just wasn't the Glamour of the movie. They wasn't like <hes> Hall Havana Nights now believe that Jerry saying yeah absolutely how did horrible histories view is it because you're you're you're these days and I was just kind of approached and I knew you know knew he had a good heart and they kind of said here we won't need to be August this celts and I just think could bid for it and they still had to be willing to wear <hes> a wig magnificent beer. We should massive bid on yeah. It's just I just don't shave. Let's it uh-huh person. I can try that for a while you know and like last like six weeks ago. I decided to try and change my life in some way and get fit and stuff so I have lost two stone in the month wow month. My beard is growing. I don't know why Ebbe Justice compensation when off so some correlation with weight loss and beard growth a protein things I'm ah just I'm I'm like under six hundred calories. A day for the next three months is use ten stone in a year and then you live to see your children get married in the world being funny man whose forty-seven big fat funny men who were fifty seven if Vino on so you just want to be a big fat guy or do you want to see kids get married not to each other. It'd be weird but you know what I mean. I think about my choice and you know stop drinking and smoking and everything and though is your reward is that's me yeah just now is growing again. It's clean shaven growing yeah so yeah I finally just said she finds doing and I think I'm kind of lucky that they blocking guidelines and other bits and pieces. They say you can kind of come and do what you want you know which which is great but then when you're doing some horrible histories. I think it was the most kind of I._Q.. Heavy production team I've ever worked with. They're all they all seem to be producers of history or professors or unlike you improvise ation. They say it's very funny but no not accurate historically correctly okay cool. You know it was fun. It was nice. It was nice people like <hes> Greg Jenner. Did you meet anyone where we were. <hes> <hes> Celtic encampment the film's divided this kind of bubbles Craig Robertson off doing his thing and get Lee Mc off doing his own lay. We we saw a couple of days but yeah the best thing well listen. Kelsey village was incredible to sat around in a Celtic village like just sign my tent nt which was a big round round however yeah just amazing just looking around thinking. How did people survive past ten? Hey get it so what's the most interesting history she learned. The Romans introduced cats to Britain deep. Why why won't cats domestically this row? One of them brought them over with kittens cats. Yeah Oh yeah yeah I mean presumably aimable nettles were brought by the Romans did not know that up slipped bastards yeah hang on the we have to row Mr Thank for stinging nettle one of the Romans <music> pasta yeah that so should we have a question sure many questions the people to send in some stuff today. I'll be honest. I wasn't entirely happy with the quality of the clock but you know we we we can be the oh come on awesome spirit on reflexive all right okay so anyway we have a question from Tim Carter Tim Twenty four frames on the twitter's says in honor of the Irishman trailer Taylor which Deniro characters which most and least like to grab a beer or three or for certain on Colin James You don't even drink either you know or a non alcoholic beverage with let's see which to near characters most and least liked to grab a beer with <hes>. I kinda liked it didn't Enron and silver linings playbook from one he's kind of he's found these a good dad and he's. He's a nice dinner a lot watching that one was my that someone like Deniro in the intern yeah. Do you WanNa grab a beer like guy because he'll face early. If you disrespect him would you I wouldn't know no I get it will be exciting brief right. You'd feel like GonNa say oh my amazing. You know there are so many women could Maria regard being stomped on center managed to avoid the one in the interim. We give you good advice so that's worth remembering. I'll have to say Captain Shakespeare from Stardust. I have to say that I do have to say that he'd be no ep most one like and you know he could do little to show in his dress after taxi driver that would that would be bad company. Now I WANNA at least lodging with his Jack from meet the parents I I just I feel that would be very stressful. Are you worried that you essentially do what Ben Stiller dozen the movie and just start talking nonsense about Nipples Nipples James. Could you milk me. No I wouldn't I wouldn't want to do that would i. Most I call it a guy with Neil McCauley from heat that would be quite. I'll be quite interesting coffee yeah. Oh you know he's always who's the Ronin <hes> Sam. I forget anyway. We can talk about the White House at the what's it called of the boathouse in here for that's right. I'm canoe and correct him on his pronunciation Herod. That's what you WANNA hear for. Not Hair efforts humbling. Have you ever had the pleasure of me and Robert De Niro yeah no never okay well. It'd be really nervous us. You know it'd be really nervous. You've had the opportunity to meet a few people over the last few years. I'm still a fan of film you know still be like <hes> Robert De Niro who who has made you the most thaw struck <hes> Li- Angela Hartnett the chef really really what they did and I went and had lunch live four years ago one of restaurants then she came out orange. Yeah life was like I think living rugby team sent this to me. The other day in coffee shop in Twickenham. Can My baby with me and kind of went. No I mean I guess usually people I get their own people right but I think someone like Deniro. Yeah I mean <hes> Sigourney. We did remain Greg Mottola into me before we cost to Paul and like we yes I think I told you it's like a place in Hollywood and me and grip until we're having lunch and she was eating chicken Caesar Salad and was just like this is looking at an inch Avi and looking around and thinking this is amazing since I'm saying just was you fucking Caesar Salad. She's amazing look a lot of people there people and they're afraid to and <hes> nervous and anxious in Bali address interest in the site healthy thicke divine it goes away after a while when you work with these people like say working Nagorny like a week in two Paul. Does that go. I think you stop. I think you start <hes> as a person you get to judge what you can get away with and then nothing usually my editing suite is off so I say things and then you see them. Reacting that was a good reaction you know and then I think people realize that you know you're only store uh-huh daylight the fat European decor your you say things people don't say or and you know people the want to that all yeah yeah yeah and then that way you know you know what Spielberg though he was amazing yeah Novus Stephen I was like nine. He's directed the best films. I've loved the most in my life really in as a child as a young man. Don't you just have to sit and listen to him. Talk about close encounters like an absolute dream. How much did you prompt because you're massive? WHO's encounters fan? I am. I'm he didn't have to from a law really he. Just charts by Simon was a problem Sir in okay and I'd say and you know harvest that problem by got like <hes> years ago found the first edition novelization of Spielberg's novel of close encounters he'd written and I found in a junk shop on a pilot you know when I was sixteen and paid a five for yeah and then like you know twenty five years later gave him it sign stuff because he can give Stephen even things to sign on the last day and that's okay man he was. Oh my God. This is incredible. I've got a first edition signed. Oh my gosh you know he says something really lovely. I think no I love is in the novelization explains that the the big organ they play at the end the synthesizer you see the F._B._I.. The C._I._A. Go in the door and stevie wonder opens and they like he's organ the because it's the most technically advanced organ in the world the team they play is stevie wonder's amazing. Maybe they could go and re dropped. They show it. Maybe they should be other directors. Yeah Oh my God. Does she know another question asked Ian Nine asks you're stranded on Desert Island. Oh no which police academy movie and do you have as your only source of entertainment payment because under siege whoa straighten number six one wanted to be all for I wanna I wanNA seem cheery. Revis was around me a reminder that it's worth fighting to get home. Yes yes oh you could use to dig a shelter in the Senate and Korea formats the on oh that's a good question but if it was streaming a streaming media have any connections to their for you would just get online and what if you had no way of like sending you only could like just receive it was like a password I couldn't Burg with three in place of the and was but he's not even enough film. Mary's ridiculous all right so I'm going to say to you I'm GonNa Say D._V._D.. Because we don't want you to hang yourself very true. Isn't it other sharp things on the island cinema's so fucking dangerous really helen what would you do. Would you watch what came to mind is four by the I can't even remember the subtitle it was. It was a film Greg. She Johnstone's not one trillion trillion Charles in one meter horrible histories. It wasn't like operation. Miami beach will be a bit too on the nose because you're on a mission to Moscow just for the contrast down exactly about yeah. I have the same a mistake <hes> I said very very quickly earlier on the six to choose when you got seventies from your mission to Moscow is seventh one on I apologize to all fans out there but because always is the first one on account of it being a naturally good film which cannot be said of any of the others to better their fill one's a bit racy isn't it with the boobs and the swearing in a different time it was the youngster it does the book before Police Academy as the film. I've seen most I think in my life something you should galster bit off. The whole film is more than the case. No <hes> no the entire film when I when I was a kid I watched that loans a lot but I think probably the I._T.. Version so I probably have to say Schindler's list no causing really present one hundred underneath fifty times. I mean realistically how have you seen the film hundred fifty times not in a cinema but just in my life fifty almost the thirty nine years Our kids have no choice so it was literally thou or just sit and read a book and Yeah Yeah Yeah which I also had Allen Dean Foster uh-huh not my Steve Steve Steve Steven Spielberg stevie devious Steve E. S. US find one more question will head on to moving well. You say that radio it out a little film that well-prepared great guys on all right okay okay. I'm beyond being pressurized. Choosing the question is the best questionable over all right. That's not marcus be which under appreciated Co Stars should get more love were in the World of Film Me Nick Frost Frost. He is a jerk N- no idea one that you guys. Are we talking like what are we talking about here. We're talking about someone said actors. Yeah twenty sooner question isn't it so we call twenty-seven percent right the car drivers who make every film there in Twenty Seven Percent Better Nick Frost Frost. It's probably one of the women are main because the men are appreciated character actors and I don't think we talk as much about the ladies Maya Rudolph Off Maya Rudolph does get when I Mark Martin Dale Good Coal Okay and out I'm going to end out or failing that <hes> Julia Roberts yet nobody ever talks by her talk about her enough where she doing some streaming talking to I mean as everyone did the new stranger things Winona Yeah uh-huh refound thing in me that said <hes> she's lovely. I think we'll see in the awards last time thinking. She's going bonkers but I watched it. She's great you know. Where would you place season three vis-a-vis the other as my favorite and it was just fun? It was a setting it's nice and yeah I like the relationship I love Break Elman Yeah. I liked it up onto last question where we move. Yvonne is <hes> from at trickster nineteen sixty six favourite biscuit. I'm GonNa Start all my God right now. Every every is in my well historically literally thinking about every biscuit fruit shortcake it yesterday when I see biscuits to just for me. It's like I can literally drink a whole cup of tea with biscuits during the biscuit which is why I'm in the problem yeah there were these things given to now everyday a dislike essentially just bags of shitty dust breaks. I can eat six visa day by as much coverage as you want but there's one of them which comes in like a sewer four pack this essentially a strobe everything coated in. I'm assuming it's yoga they may we know b-be Yoga style slum. It's rumor of fucking get enough of that. She are amazing. They're amazing. They're only Obam light. Oh my God I was sent to the lady. That kinda runs his thing conscious six days that she's I mean yeah I guess in theory you could but you know you go blind. We other bits and pieces would help with the weight loss regime wouldn't if you're blind point pie shop Helmut you've ever biscuit again. All of them is kind of my everything nick. Just a chocolate chip. Cookie recipe is genuinely great and to know how you call and have a homemade biscuit us has to be has to be a brandy mind-bending S._M._S. Belgian chocolate middle-class. There's also a flavor of orientated they do in America the Mold Cinnamon Bun Orios. They're like a custard cream with cinnamon in it. Interest is a slightly the honesty long coiled school. I I love chocolate digestive. I love Hobnob. Go for either of those but Germany speaking the classic ginger nuts yeah go to buy and this is moving middle class. If I want to go the extra mile not ginger but like the you know sort of way Tros stem ginger posh biscuit you know where there's only like ten in a pack engage a hundred and fifty calories per biscuit those they are brilliant dunkers because the stem ginger crystallizes in the highly recommend them if I'm having like a Nascar Fay a digestive online survey combination and every now and again you get one like in Pisa Hamas on this little salty crispy crystal zone. You'd be rich tea now. Nothing else is available. The thing is suicidal devil Mike Catt and maybe things that could rich t as if they're dunking but those fuckers disintegrating it's ridiculous dunk no doubt I don't talk to and you already donkey diabolical to the correct answer by the way is playing chocolate addition which isn't good digestive thins are they go through a whole packet lows but anyway was defeats. The object misnamed yeah oh well if if you WANNA have your question right out on the emperor podcast and treated with respect it deserves he can get in touch with a number of methods were on twitter as at ample magazine use Hashtag Infra podcast or chances are we won't see it. You can facebook facebook us as well and you can email us podcast at Empire Online Dot C. O. M. Nikki on twitter much these days twitter. Not Really I do has to have a thing that's open and then I went back the other day to do a book. It just got me down. Everything I looked at made me really really sad yeah so many times I can see Steve Bannon Frog and all that long lasting what yeah they don't show up on their return 'cause over in the stream going house to house to crush this vile filth if the world's a bit fucked but when you're on twitter twitter it feels like we're living in escape from New York like it's like Oh. It's not as tinderbox as I imagined you know. Societies Society is is as he made to look worse. I'm hoping I'm on Instagram. I love instagram. You know then the law of food porn which I imagine if you're restricted restricted and what you can do instagram problems look wive lights in the last two months in lieu of king all of these. I do the same I like I love cake accounts in videos of cake icing and stuff like that phrase American just cheese New New York style pizza for me right now my kill me yet. I was cooking going these days. Yeah good cooking the law I mean I'm finding on cooking law to feed other so I can watch that being enjoyed and take some some tacit enjoyment from others. That's interesting. You're still don't watch Saturday kitchen every week. Religiously which is the but you're still the only gas I've ever seen actually gotten fault in the cooking side of things I wanted to do the the only challenge but like really with and we don't have enough magnetic homeless right and that's okay fine because there's I imagine if a guest wanted to do its I o hello this weekend this week. In one of the chefs cannot do it yeah. We'll be back on again many magnetic only it's when he got one fridge. I'm afraid sorry of what would you've your approach. Would you've gone for trying to break a record or would you have taken the Wolfgang puck approach. The Iowa imagine smash the extremes the Pan obviously with the shows and they say okay homeless right now really in my house. My girlfriend loves omits to and they're kind of my thing for a couple of pounds just specifically from this. Oh my God you know is simple. ECHINACEA homeless highly loves gormless. Yeah they'll be then. He's not the bomb so they folds over yeah. It's Nice Powdery Story Yogurt biscuits on top of that just inside. That's a real stuff right there right there all right. Should we talk about some movie news now. I'm lovely movie news. Things will happen the nick. If you want to chip in you can ship in. There may be some things that pertain to you right in fact somebody was announced today. As a matter of fact it was the Nevers Oh yes yes. Congratulations very exciting sweet. New Show which I for the longest time thought was called. The numbers have been a very different topic. Yes <hes> I was really like for my meeting with him. Not My fault just terrible. Traffic just turned up. I was sake my kids were sick. I was like Oh my there's not going to go on and it didn't go great. I mean but then saying hey great he loved yours I or aren't we just chat. There was no process but you know he's really lovely allied talking to him Alah hanging out with him and then I I went and did my first day a few weeks ago and I guess sense when you walk on set how much money somebody's go walk on you think I think there's like eighty percent more horse-drawn carts than I've ever seen anything. This is GonNa be Great. You know everyone's everyone's lovely lovely knows what he wants. He's you know one day but then I've ever been so minute directed us to exactly ackley walk he wants to portray in terms of thinking okay great yeah very specific which is yes. Oh Yeah it's great trying to find that <hes> so <hes> this is is a show about a group of Victorian Women <hes> in correct me if I'm wrong but I'm they want to get you into trouble. It's all on the the acquirer powers they call themselves the touched on they set out to do a mission. They might just change the world or people who are railing against him and it was announced that you're planning article the beggar King Yeah <hes>. What can you say anything about <hes>? Just you know the oh Dr Become <hes> and the kind of skin headier bid it may now S._O._B.. I'm starting to like as I'm getting older. I'm not like Roly poly early Gun Mad Mike Anymore. There are times when I looked like a lunatic like shit up. Yeah I kind of like the way my career is going in terms effect. You know I was still not be great. Supply Lunatic so I'm kind of at that point so is good. I really already like it. I've never played like a proper killer before this. This is sounds like it'd make an interesting double bill with rotten Romans. If you're so inclined Jimbo you must be unhealthy food. You're both massive weeknights. You must be it's very much here for too long. See very much of Libya Williams and very great horse yeah so also James Norton Tom Riley on Skelly Ben Chaplin Pip Torrens Zachary Momo Amy Manson Rochelle Neil Eleanor Tomlinson Denis O'hare this. I've let you read in the most AH savant like the T._v.. So from the beginning to the bowery king they're not quite but there's the constancy Ah Great Sameness Segue <hes> neca so this is the continental which is the series spinoff from John Wick which apparently is going to be a prequel set a long meantime before the film's as a huge surprise that if you did you see deadly close at all <hes> council it's terrible so it's no no it's the first episode great it kind of goes downhill but that fell a little bit like Joan Wicky Prequel in the it had that similar sort of altered fantasy world element to killing so eh eh it felt like a shed some but I did get counsel isn't relevant but this will be an actual official Prequel to join. We sort of center around the Continental Hotel. It's looking like we'll probably arrive after John Chapter Four now separately about twenty twenty one okay so I'm not prequel person generally. I guess if it's far enough back and listen I've connected so what nineteen seventy that will work exactly the same. I believe so the Barry King though isn't it probably August use that as a segue but I mean maybe there may be a young Laurence Fishburne who knows who knows ah yeah. I'm pretty excited but who wants the Irishman trailer yeah yeah it was great excited but did you see any of the Magic de Gauging. Yes I was watching eight people showed his thanks clearly means. It's work if you look like them like the point isn't isn't it. I don't know I don't know what I was expecting. I was expecting like you know like magnum professor x kind of like really weird like Oh God what's happening. What's the? How many episodes is it? Oh it's a film more proper film <hes> one episode one episode one in twenty minutes and it's funny because when he does that ring on he says it's only three people were over this ring. I have exactly the same ring. The sovereign is exactly the same amount. That's the that's the same week of the free. Wow this is like the third elven Ring Gandalf. It's obviously Gandalf Nick Ross and Robert Deniro it looks. It looks really great doesn't it. It really does says De Niro Pacino has she. I think Harvard intelligent as well we'd be. We didn't see him in the trailer. Oh my goes Stephen Gram grams. Oh my God yeah it's an embarrassment of riches Ray Romano <hes> rare serious role. I'm very excited by this movie by the ladies well. It's a howling wasteland. I mean Pat Quinn appears in the trailer. She looks worried. She might be a wife daughter a daughter okay well. At least she's clearly defined yeah woman. Oh I thought she grew up to be an impact. I was watching. I am reading entirely into that going to work always means killing killing because he paints house yeah yeah is he read very much human plasma yeah. I'm deeply deeply deeply deeply excited about this movie out at the end of September the New York Film Festival as we're gonNA receive as big Bro Premier you know New York Deniro and then it's going to be on Netflix six so watch it in the comfort of your own home and you're boxer shorts. If <hes> should you so desire of your boxers guy you might be you might UPI. No no no. He lives up to over cost very very exciting from Bangladesh. Amazon comes impacted ten all right actually so deniro ones because as you're going to team up again <hes> MHM exciting there's revealed today <hes> onto the Irishman after the Irishman they had them work together Nineteen ninety-five and casino. I love catching up today. He's doing a and this is going to be based on the David. Grann novel is nonfiction novels as a true story. Obviously that's nonfiction means and <hes> it's about the osage nation who were creative Americans and in the Oklahoma nineteen twenties oil with this go at under the land making them the richest people per capita in the U._S. and then someone started off Oh right yeah if someone started merging them one by one the F._B._I.. Got In the case as well afraid that notorious case and to Capri is going to be an also just DiCaprio de Niro Scorsese Scorsese voice relentless acting. It's going to be so much musing though like Scorsese won't know which way to look you know sharing a camera with acting without naming names. You must have had that in your career as well when you're <hes> I don't know I have I think I think I've been lucky enough to work with people who can judge the mood of the the scene and not just coming going crazy that I seen someone do something to see. I've caused another say. Even you know or of the first ideas either in a scene to says this is good and then I'm having to turn away. 'cause everyone's different has different things. I've done of being fairly you know. They haven't haven't been big performance pieces where you have to be big you know. I think a lot of stuff we do is come natural one small inquire. Kevin Smith to have someone coverage starts all is seems all you know but then I mean Tim Dolan in all don't fuss was big but it was great because this is exactly this is him you know yeah yeah come the his arch. I love that movie <hes> just last things to talk about real quick so they're looking for director too because ain't gonNA drink the itself. Although it looks like the first one did anyway <hes> <hes> Rupa Fleischer's busy in Somaliland double tap and there are three names apparently on the shortlist three okay yes yes but they haven't leaked at some so those names are Andy Circus intriguing Travis night <hes> and Rupert Wyatt. What have you had to choose one of those who would it be and why I think Andy Circus could maybe bring some comedy touch to it and <hes> I feel at night should be funny breeze in the jungle book where I'm not being harsh guys. We don't share that okay well. I think it'd be it's one of these things well. I didn't think was good so there's appalled me. That doesn't want Andy to do it because I feel like I'm with you know his among them was unfortunate and I'm not sure what you want to do to save that is going to venom to. I'm because which may make a little money. It'd be very successful. It's also venom to equally. I won't Travis night to be busy with Barry things because it's not gonNa make another a bumble bee which again is a shame because he did a really good job with that film. It just didn't make the money so I don't host this is tough this point jealous but admittedly one field but money poison- poisoned chalice made of gold. It is nick. This is is not late to throw your hat in the Ring Shit did you did you hear the song the honest enough. I think you bring an interesting this guy on these yeah. I'm over that kind of stuff. He's got kids. A young baby and you know sometimes I go to bed. Weenie goes to bed. You know what I mean like seven o'clock. I go to bed so I'm just in that point right now. Creatively I'm like get it good luck but sounds like something and you should do when you go to bed at seven in the evening is listen to our for our ventures and things borders special podcast yeah. It might be street. I'd love to go to sleep. Leave Love it lasted talk about is look guate- Nino <hes> his new note what I haven't talked about Olivia Wilde. We'll all right okay talk about living wild wild strating in another film after book smart which was a bit of a worry because book smart is brilliant but nobody went see it and <hes> and yes so she's getting the chance chance to drive again and apparently she's now attached to star in and direct a film called don't worry darling which is described as a psychological thriller about a fifties housewife whose reality begins Giddens to crack. Oh let's look at she's lovely by the way we had a nice me. I one one evening drinks this one potentially she was going to be character in Cuban fury for Rashida cost and <hes> yeah we kind of got a bit tipsy and it was fun. There was a lovely woman <hes>. I'm glad these book smart. I didn't it's amazing. Nobody did judging by the box okay so far stalls right exactly. I do think it's going to have such a long life. I feel like you know every teenager for the next thirty years. It's going to watch this thing thing but nobody cinemas or like going back to join us like I honestly affiliates on that level. I'm very excited but she's also the Christmas movie in the works works as well. We've seen this over. Netflix something that this is not quite sure what's when she's going I but this sounds cool and then look Guarino is going to direct <music> a new version of Lord of the flies. <hes> which I mean so is this. There was talk of a girl. Lord of the flies widely laughed after yes. I'm right in saying that flies yeah. I I think they will deal short films and it goes just kill each other really weekly efficiency. Just another wouldn't be any violence just like a <hes> just really aggressive really yes yeah just. Chris heavily criticizing each other's coconut bras. I'm like an island highland. That's what that was about. All what you please academy six to the under siege just going nuts. That's the thing no this is going to be going back to the original text east okay as they say yeah <hes> so. I'm kind of on board. I he's brilliant the recent superior remake aside so yeah this is pretty fertile ground and all right well not really is not that much growing at this point and obviously they won't be able to yeah okay. It's on the islands so there must be some kind of Nice ecosystem all right cool. That's exciting stuff <hes> and at this point this means we can let Mr Nick Frost Joe but I can't let you go because barricaded the door no but mainly <hes> is I've got to ask you very quickly about. Shaun of the dead going because he's fifteen years old yeah is that there's a fifteen years old to you. I mean yeah no just the thing the thing thing another thing most the memories I have of that now are looking at pages in the Oh we did that. Someone's seventeen the other day I was like did we remember I was showing off to some more people on set and there was like a beetle on a wall and I I put in my mouth and then he decided to bite my tongue can get off my tongue and then everyone laughed. I remember that I remember that. You know you remember specific days. Do you remember the the double Ganger Day for example. where it's it's usually the reason yeah? I mean I was terrified and most of that shoot that was going to be found found out and wanted to do a good job in the crew to like me and you know wanted it to be a good film and I wanted to be proud and no fuck up. Most of my days were about really. This seems like a strange question. But what point did you realize that you hadn't fucked. They weren't fucking up the second season you know. I mean it's difficult difficult when you've got children because it's not I need to do this forever and asked to be viable financially and you know there are some things turned down like three years ago which had so much money knowing that ever come to me with that before and I say no because it wasn't there there wasn't I'd like two weeks. Somalia over and there was one morning where I woke up and I thought this is what I WANNA do. Every morning. The inside me says can do you know. I sat down the money's Kinda yeah but now you think I two kids now and tight to get to a point in my career. When what do I do if I'm not acting. I'm sixty years old. You know what what am I children. This is one of the reasons why you and Simon launched stolen picture you taking control all of your own destiny. I mean but even still that needs to be successful with you. You have a company and Shit and you don't make any that companies worth uh nothing I mean. How long have we were left. I just need to make sure that I do nice things with good people and make sure that my law financially financially secure for the rest of their lives my that's what keeps me going. Nick will let you get back to what's important and and listen. I'm hoping I'll say this is also powered by the time I get in the taxi and drive across town. I think I'm going to be to life about venom bath so you get to that thing where even if you get to a point where you think I could could still make this parliament and says the driver. Hey will you hang back a it. Just has to put into this thing where there is still a like a lazy ed inside me where you can get away with not not doing better in buffalo ny then yeah yeah probably trying to that man. I felt guilty about he'll be back in bed and bath but now desert brilliant next. Thank thank you thanks so that was Nick Frost. He has now left the building love guy he is and <hes> we did not stick around for the reviews. We never asked anyone instagram the reviews because we feel that that would be unprofessional unfriendly. We don't ask people to Shit with the we really. Don't let let us emphasize that that that would I mean we put it in the podcast of toll. All yeah eating is okay. Yes we are happy with people eating in the podcast studio but shitting. It's a hard pan ever again just that one time one time everyone experiments in podcasts and it didn't go down well. I don't know didn't go that doesn't work work in an audio medium apparently anyway hello welcome to the reviews section of the podcast so this is where we talk about movies that have come out got to come out and one of those movies is film called now. I can't get the title this movie in My head. It was announced as Haub's on shoal <hes> then it became fast fast and furious percents Hobson show now in your presence fast and furious presence. That's a Christmas movie fast and furious percents Hobson show a now. I think it's just fast and furious how long Hobbs Jonas's Shaw now. Jonah's don't of Yeah Cypher. It's an and what is it now. Percent believe is fast and here's colon hubs. I'm sand seashore. I liked fast and furious percents obscene show. I feel like that it does say that on screen at one point. I feel like pretty sure that is yeah it is it's awesome fears of central does. I said I'm sure that's a special for this movie interview with the Director of the film David Leach each and are we spent a long time in podcast interview talking about the name of the movie and even then I don't think either of US know what it is <hes> relatively late stage changes but we should focus less on the fast and furious portion of the title more on the harvest and Shaw yeah portion of this type nick. What do you think of it <hes> so so hopes the show this is the ninth film and the fast and furious franchise is the first spin off. Is the real one. If you will the Star Wars story you make of that what you bill and <hes> so this is the first movie that breaks away from the the mothership franchise and has dwayne Johnson Has Luke Hobson Bulbs man-mountain. Yes all round good egg correct. Honest Noble Call of sorts never quite sure what he does heroically blue color her American hero man yes American Samoan of course yes which is significant is significant and Jason Stadiums <music> debit card shaw the artist formerly known as in show if you go back and check the credit so fast six pretty shirts in show on those and who has been heavily read red conned shall we say starts off as a bad guy in the fast and furious franchise an an people realized that they quite enjoyed the state so they stuck with him stuck them into fast eight turned turned into a hero and now the two of teaming up to save the world from Idris Elba the Black Superman. That's right in this film his words. His words snowed ours. Yes sorry what was full name. Jobs Brixton and his surname is Brixton Brixton Brixton. It's even better than that. It's Brixton didn't law is the law holds ashore and Brixton Brixton Law. How does no one in this movie saying. We fought the law US going on well. We don't WanNa get into spoilers anyway. They want to get to save the world. Yeah Yeah. It is actually impossible also if it were possible. All of the trailers have already done it. Vanessa Kirby is an interesting character here. She plays Hattie Hattie Shawl. I wish I were hitting shots from the role of the tracks well. She is supposed to be de. Card shows sister despite being twenty one years younger. Are you see them as kids to get to years. We should probably say this for the spoiler special but anyway she works for mix and the beginning of the motion Asia's. She is sent to retrieve an item that Brixton law is after and the only way she can do so is by injecting into her own body virus. Yes we can side so we can say okay. It's a virus and so now our heroes have to find her because she's been framed for everything and rescue her and get the thing out of her body in a very complicated manner before she becomes like you know Gwyneth Paltrow in contagion or could have felt you know of course. I think it's fair to say that if this plus sounds dog shit it's because it kind of ease male. That's not to say the film it so. This is a film that my understanding of this is that drew pearce purchase cotton socks came in and punch this up a little bit didn't he he did so it feels to me like the skeleton skeleton the outline of what this film should be was not the best and the vestiges of this the macguffin of this the the broad story of of where this goes is entirely forgettable nonsense that said. I don't think anyone was coming to this film looking for a really in depth espionage thriller what you wanted ensued was the Rock and Jason State them as Luke Hopes and Decca Chore Having a go at each other insulting each other occasionally punching each. I saw that I think we do a lot of that is a loss of that. There's there's a lot of driving fast <hes> there is you expect these fun quite a lot it more than I expected from this move mainly because as as token call porn for the fast and furious calendars also one shot of ladies. ARSE varies yeah which is way below however it felt like it was a deliberate note. I will give them undue credit that it was referential and not just ogling but some of us because maybe sets up the link between this and the mothership franchise arses. Yes cheeky back. If you like literally anyway I I think we enjoy spending time with these characters really fun together. They were kind of the high point of the last fast and furious film. It doesn't always work the worst. There is a hit and miss ratio to this. I think this film is too long. Yes there's a whole middle at that. You could lose happily to keep this kind of flowing. I think from an action point of view you peaks very early like this happens in London earlier on his great and there's a there's a chase through the streets London which is fucking unbelievable not just because we see a slow drive Oy of a Greg's which is having a very good summer and it really is I mean London has never looked quite so much like Glasgow but it is a fun chase. Yes and you're right. I think I think there's there's a lot of cool stuff early on the problem with this for me. Is I absolutely agree. There's there's too much in the middle taken away on some of the sort of insulting each other scenes are not that way see. I should have been trimmed by about fifty percents. It's like a Imogen right yeah exactly yeah. There's some good lines in there but really it should be massively tightened up but by the end of this film if you're kind of saying thing they're thinking this supposedly real world. Ish Film is less convincingly realistic than at least I would say four or five live marvel films. I feel like maybe going a bit too far. At times <hes> okay I actually quite that's one of the things I liked about this movie because the fast and furious movies from fast five five onwards just been becoming increasingly batch it insane to the point were from fast six onwards to really not about car racing there highs movies at them became sort of weird comic book movies where Vin Diesel in the rock are essentially superheroes just without the trappings of of being actual superheroes. Awesome and this movie leans into this pure Gonzo Sifi Idris Elba's character is a Cyborg a century for for one of a better phrase it goes into the full blown saving the world sheds <hes> the next thing that they will have superpowers in space. I'm being going so I was okay with that side of this thing for me. This is the I fast and furious film wet. Every person on board is on board but they all know what this is. They're absolutely wears. I still don't believe in diesel understands falls appears. Here's Mike my only quibble with that as the VIN diesel seriousness about these films has always been expressed by his endless use of the word family yeah and that Patani Mommy that that mental here is the rock on he he is very sincere and other films films but I was a bit like know your job is to not be sincere in VIN diesel be sincere and I understand why you are talking endlessly about family aretha it's also it's also a family in terms of the shoals themselves. Yes True Helen Mirren's in as Mrs Show we saw her and feist eight oversee revolves around relationships day code and you know there's all of our family as well. There's a certain amount of reconciliation it goes on movie. That's the theme of the film if <unk> a movie if this movie can be said to have a theme it had that's one of the things so I think it's still there but the problem one the issues I have with this while I found this enjoyable to a degree agree. I didn't enjoy it as much as I wanted to because one of the problems I had with it as that <hes> yes I will agree that. I don't think that everyone's in on the joke of the fast. If you're in movies <hes> especially its main star and producer. I think the more ridiculous aspects of the of the Louis films are over poor fins vins head bless him but as findings made a millionaire many many times over so was EEK but I feel that this movie goes too far the other way in a weird way it doesn't modulate itself enough and it almost becomes smug and lazy at times. It's it's definitely Lazy A._C.. In some of the plotting and say the passage of data night in certain sequences and characters suddenly appearing hundreds of miles Dell's away yes and also I feel that the subtitle all of these films but especially this one could certainly be physics doesn't work that way but I like this and I liked that it leaned into the comedy. The and there are a number. I want to give them away but there are a number of comedy cameos in this and they've been kind of mixed reception of people who see with. I really enjoyed the moment I left losing to be heavily improved but it was very funny. I did laugh consistently through this film but I mean as with many fast and furious films I think I was laughing. APPS sometimes rather than and with <hes> but I did have a lot of fun. I just feel like it's not up to the heights of fast five and fast seven which is regular. I adore <hes> <hes> there's a sentence they are high. I would also note for a need interested. Fear is that there are listeners that they're eas- the mid credit staying another mid credits thing a bit more in the mid credits and postgraduate staying. None of them seem to have anything to do with anything there no obviously setting anything up professor is nine but you know they're there and you might WanNa know that yeah so stay. Don't stay is entirely up to you. There are also some interesting fun cameos as well. There's there's plenty talk about in the sport especially if list and we will be doing one for it and a will be out at some point next week. We gave this film four stars four stars which roby detail. I'm not entirely generous given the three. It's like it's daft. It's stupid. It's objectively not what I would call good but there's lots to enjoy like it's fun from like it's a fun game. You will enjoy your so this is very much a film to go and see with friends who appreciate you know big shoe production movies and ideally high five if your way through it like I I honestly feel like you need to be giggling at it consistently because if you stop and think about it for even a second you'll end up like Chris amid by. Maybe that's where I went wrong Helen I._Q.. Go see movies together. Be High Five Shit where I eat. It's totally fine. It's really smelly but in this this case I was on my own I was maybe a little bit lonely little bit sad. I don't want to say that you abandoned me but like you know if the shoe fits so four stars then for Hobson show percents fast and furious percents Hobson show co along hopes and furious percents hopes and fast. I don't know what it's called but we gave it four stars so there we go now to talk about animals last week. Guests on the show were aaliyah Shaukat and holliday grainger or vacation grange. If you're listening to the states states I will never stop saying this and this is a comedy drama says in not their Dublin Jimbo. Did you have to understand did you. We're going Jay's no. I need to sell toilets. I don't understand a word you're saying. It was a lot especially so this is based on an adapted boy Amazon's with from her novel which is set in Manchester late. Ranger is meant union however for funding reasons the whole thing relocated to Dublin so it is indeed they'd very Irish but she works. I'm grainger nails. I mean let's be Dublin accent. Yes it's very very good. I enjoyed this law so this is this is a holy grain and Shaukat grunge plays a a writer called Laura and <hes> Shaukat. That's kind of an ex Pat American Tyler and they've been best friends for ten years since unique and they've spent that decade drinking doing drugs and shacking Germany living it up as we do <music> twenty s coming into the thirties now on the fundamental so the crux of this is that <hes> grainger meets a young classical musician as one does in a pop payback and Shaukat has no intention of giving up her sort of partying lifestyle and it creates a rift between the Mao. It sounds uh-huh quite twee as a set up. The execution is far from like it's very much a celebration of female friendship Russo there excess. They're lost installed debauchery. There's no judgment is not found upon these people enjoying themselves these people living their lives to their full and it is not casting aspersions on them or trying to kind of pigeonhole. There's no punishment there's a judgment in this film and I really liked that's about it except severe they are and I thought they were great. Great characters very very believable. Who did the directions the directions autumn my safe behind and she doesn't really good job with with with this? I believe directions with direct all the directions. You've never seen such direction. The directions were marvel last bit left activate their yeah. No it's it's it's it's very unusual film and won't be to everyone's taste but on I'm GonNa say is one of the first scenes sees carrots stripped naked cubes on fire accidentally on a bar so you know you don't see that not even in Hobson sure it's weird at this feeling someone's just put cameras in the Empire podcasts asked studio and just just mining for inspiration accidentally so the wall don't seem naked on about leans too close to think what is a flaming Buca does exactly what happened in the pilot episode. Thank God wow be careful. Shops wax fuel safety the hand Elliott and radio one so nicely. How's your lawyer Chris? I'd like to make it clear that you're joking about alley joking for whom you have the utmost respect and whose pukes you know nothing about four L.. Let's not go that fun. I will sign sign a document to that effect be yes. Animals is great really enjoyed it. We gave it four stars <hes> so you know go and watch that if you don't want to see a man pulling helicopter out of the sky with his hands so yeah okay cool. I haven't seen that yet. I'm dying taste sounds good to me. Quick shout out to movies that are also out this week and <hes> we gave four stars to refresh batteries photograph and holiday which is a slab of darkness Swedish first time director Isabel Eklof who co wrote border anyone see border came out last year the troll fantasy troll thing really really great this year. He came out this year. I was sitting behind nick when he washed F- helps. No doesn't help okay. I it has the years <music> weirdest most unforgettable sexing at blue water. Well was the one in Hobson show. There wasn't one shaw pretty sure it wasn't that I want you to know. I do not know that might explain why he didn't think there were enough car chases. I think I know what's happening anyway. So those are also at this weekend we gave him both four stars as well and we should also tell you this week to do the right thing do the right thing do the right thing and listen listen to the pundits on Monday while let me be the first time I've ever heard how pretty funny so I can't. I can't have the cutout however yes do. The right thing is getting a rerelease for its thirtieth birthday. Yes <hes> which is terrifying. It still feels UNCANNILY unquiet quite upsettingly relevant film but it is very very very much worth seeing if you haven't seen it. It's Spike Lee's second film. I think it was a second third third feet yeah. She's going to have in school days. You're correct yeah third film <hes> it should have as as they actually talked about the Oscars that year Kim embassador I think made made the point dish. This film should have been out for best picture and she was absolutely right. It is a phenomenal phenomenal film and Yes you should see I don't WanNa say too much about it. It's at during a heat wave even New York City in Brooklyn and it sees tensions flare up around the local pizzaria owned by Danny Aiello Giancarlo esposito's he does in it. <hes> Spike Lee himself. Obviously bill non has a fantastic role Samuel Jackson's Aaron Small World Rosie Perez incredible cast but just it's an it's an even better film. It's a great film pariah film and go and check it out. If you want to do the right thing <hes> this weekend I think it's also coming out on Criterion Collection Blu ray over here as well so if you haven't seen it loads of great bells and whistles and if you WanNa do the right thing at some point next couple of weeks our second podge Dementri will be going up ooh celebrate empire thirty and that will be a parliamentary dedicated to do the right thing with the great spike Lee himself cool so that's can be very exciting so if you haven't listened to the first one the first Pudgy was dedicated to James Cameron's Avatar what they are. They're kind of podcast documentaries so there long form features features narrated by yours truly but using fresh interviews with enact case James Cameron and in this case Spike Lee so check Latte <unk> out. It's going to be a lot of a lot of fun spike was very very good for five stars for data right thing and then we're going to do the right thing really really quickly and wrap up the review section with the angry birds movie too he angry birds and can we just keep this short as well because I have to say that angry birds sponsor Everton football club so therefore spoiler special to adopt a ferry just just negative body language yeah wow that is really negative. I'm great in the film is positive film so I saw very early cut of this so I didn't review. I want to make that clear because I I I saw an unfinished Chris. Stop it breathe Chris. You'll at one of the pigs and so if you remember the last film you will of course Jason today his red who is a red red bird not kidding. No they throw <hes> he was angry bird. He was at war with island pigs who live if nearby his bird islands. Please get more of the mythology he has been now. They've teamed up you see because there's a big purple bird who lives on an island so hang on eastern trope you hi the most in cartoon form of Become Heroes Heroes. I mean they're still a bit dodge because you know they're pigs in angry birds so they're not the greatest people in the world but neither is the big purple bird on the other island you the dia hero you live long enough to see yourself. Launched at the villains is basically a hero WPRO or you. Don't come back for the sequel. It seems to be the rule in Hollywood these anyway. That's beside the point. This is actually very fast very funny quite charming very very colorful. All the kids are going to love it. I guess I don't know I didn't I've never played the game so I'm not what you would call an angry birds expert. I was GonNa make a angry then you might punch me so I'm just GONNA leave it. That's probably wise. I might have done but yeah. There's there's some Cubans and there's a cute running gag in this little squirrel thing in ice age. There's a kind of running gag in this with three little chicks trying to retrieve a lost exit all sounds. I'm still furious. Just the mere existence of this movie that I didn't process a single word you said but it sounds sounds great thermals false Chris's furious and we have this how many stars we gave this three stars stars three stars which actually angry birds world is maximum. That's very true yeah so I guess it's the best movie ever made yeah but then again I have to deduct points for or association with Everton Football Club so one-star lend for the angry birds movie to it is most regrettable but there you go you dance with the devil. You're GONNA get burned right right on that bombshell. I do do have joking aside. I will mention while I have done my comedy pilot plug. I will say we have some guests coming next week on the Pali podcasts Snipe Minerva is on the podcast next week ooh Gemma Chan who by with dominic savage savage to talk about I am Hannah which is a third of <hes> savages. I am Anthology TV series huge genuine the huge slobber Deja Vu why I felt that you've done this before what just was show for the body T._v.. podcast before and it seems to be precious. They can stop sadly but everything about that last forty five seconds sure I've had it before you on now entering the twilight zone. This is so weird. It's like that movie. What did they call it? Deja Asia view so weird well anyway gems on the podcast common having listen drops on Wednesday drop. It's Monday through Friday Monday. You've you've already recorded. It and it's all good everyone's great okay fantastic while we're here doing quick plugs. We should mention our live podcast podcast again September fourteenth at the London podcast festival. 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Prequel to Episode 248

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Prequel to Episode 248

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Man and Hawk girl what it takes to be a commercial airline pilot and Jason and I throw down in what we're watching in another episode of Quartet all this and more on how did this get made mini episode hit the theme. Sacred. Geometry. Don't. Sacred. Relics. Hello People Earth and welcome tweet. How did this get made? Many episode I am Tall John Sheer how are you? How are you doing? I hope you're doing good. We are still in quarantine. I'm doing this for my closet, and I couldn't be more happy than in this moment to be with you. All right. Now, I look forward to this every other week to get a chance to talk with you and we have a big dig episode in store Jason's coming on for a little bit of coir chat plus we're GonNa get into the Nitty Gritty of to twenty two. You thought we covered it all clearly we did not. We have read your comments and we are getting ready to reopen. That twisted movie. I even forgot about the sewer art gallery. My God. Okay Also we're GonNa talk about the movie we're doing next week, which is a controversial one because I didn't want to do it, but I was convinced and you will see the results. So that's a little tease there. And if you've been following the mini episodes, you know that I've been harassed by Michael. Bay for such a long time, Michael Bay has been on my case. Because he wants me to talk about transformers revenge of the fallen and. After two years. I, have Agreed to do it. That's right. We are going to do a special charity episode of how did this get made all the money from that episode is going to go directly to an amazing charity. I'll tell you more about that is a comes up, but it will be the only time that how did this get made does a episode that will be behind pay? While, you can access it through our website wants to give you the link. It's not up yet we haven't recorded, but it will be coming up. So save your pennies because it will be a whopping five dollars, but we're going to go and give it to an amazing organization that is helping people get out the vote and as we're talking about getting out the vote. Did, you know you can sign up to be a poll worker I just did it I went on La County Dot com, and signed up. It was easy. You can also go to poll hero Dot Org, and if you I think sixteen and thirty, you can just sign up right there. It's amazing. We need to save our polls we need to get. Young people in our polls, they pay you. It's not a bad deal pretty great stuff. So all that and more on today's big episode but I a shoutout to public speaking. Thank you public speaking for that awesome opening theme. I loved it. That was great. Thank you for taking your time and giving of yourself. I also want to thank everybody who has. Gone onto twitch and started following me even though I don't have anything up I got nothing up yet. But plans are in the making what am I going to do on my twitter page? I'm not just going to stream games, probably less streaming games and more of doing comedy shows and bits and things have been doing with Rob Hubel and I dunno weird stuff I have this by neural microphone over here that. Will sound like I'm your era maybe it won't Devon says it probably won't. Looking at it, it might be tricky but here's what I'll say it's GonNa be fun. It's going to be weird. We'll have some of your favorite people there so. Now I mean you have to sign up just to follow its twitched whatever anyway I'm just. Paul Scheer on twitch and my partner, my partner, and twitch. Means nothing have a blue checkmark next my name, but I'm excited to be there and more on that. Soon I know I keep on plugging away. Enough about me talked a lot about me and you and I just a shout out to all the people who've reached out to us in the last week there's been so many people who are doing such essential work and and saying that the show means a lot to them and you mean a lot to us and you've gotten us through and we get you through and I. Love It. So thank you. If you're out there doing essential work and honestly every job is essential really at the end of the day it's all essential. People. Let's from you because I know you have problems and I want to help you solve them do I know anything? No but I, am alive which means that. Ultimately I've made some decisions that having killed me now. That means I'm ready to give you some advice. So get ready for the Paul helpline. O Paulo Gear, in. including. This is pro. All right. Thank you. Teddy Loves Suprema that Song Yes. All right I'm Paul Scheer you know that I'm not a doctor. I'm not therapist nor do I practice what I preach, but I'm able to judge you based on what you said. I get very good advice on the show and I've said it before and I'll say it again if I've given you great advice call back. Let me know how it worked out conversely have given. You bad advice. Call Back. No I need to learn from my mistakes too but let's go to Michigan and hear from our friend Kim Hi. My name is Kim I'm calling from Michigan my husband and I just had a Pelivan delivered today. We figured you know we're probably going to be stuck inside all winter. So it was probably worth it. Can you recommend any classes or? Or? How you like using it? Love the show you guys are keeping US laughing during all these crazy times. Thanks. Bye Jim I long for people to ask me about Peleton aright. I didn't want to get this bike I'll be honest I didn't want it. I thought this is going to be one of those things we get. It's going to be enclosed hangar in our house and I'm GonNa feel guilty about it but here is the thing it is not an why is it not because? I don't use it like an exercise bike. Yes I do do spinning on the bike definitely but not every day because that shit's going to fuck up your hips and your legs or at least me. I. It's GonNa fuck up my gear in I do like three four times a week tops spinning. where the secret sauce is unpalatable in my opinion are the video classes oh I love the video classes they are so fucking great Adrian Williamson doing strength classes. I also like Andy Spears also doing or I think his name is spear because he made a joke that people call them Brittany Spears anyway they also will get into some places with you because they're just talking nonstop and there's no one to respond to them. So they start making up nonsense like one person said that we are living in the matrix but wasn't saying like ironically like Oh. Wow. We're living in the Matrix juicing fact like now we're in the Matrix. Was Weird Anyway. I love the strength classes. I love the core classes Emma. Love Dwell on the bike thing thumbs up Robin Arizo are she's Great. But I do Emma. Love well core I do Adrienne Williams Andy Spear a strength I also do Robin. You will find the teacher you connect with their so many yoga, Yoga's great. The Cardio is great. It forces you to do something and you can pick your classes based on i. mean it sounds like a fucking Peleton. I really legitimately love it. No one is being me to say this, but it's like you can do five minutes, fifteen minutes, twenty minutes, thirty minutes and I feel so good. I, think it's the reason why I'm talking about it. So positively now I'm getting emotional is It's kept me a little bit sane during this time like to work in, move my body. It's been important. It's important. So I love my Balaton. That's Great I. Don't know I just got emotional I got welled up thinking about these relationships that I have with invisible people on the TV screen anyway that's a little insight to where I am at right now but let's not stop there Kevin would he got hey paul this is Kevin so I have decided to leave my job and start a new job and it's an exciting opportunity and I'm really happy about it but one of the things that I've been talking with my wife about is whether or not I should talk to a therapist And so what I'm wondering is, what are the things that I should be looking for in a therapist? In order to. Either have like a meaningful conversation or in terms of ways that I can learn from. That experience. So appreciate it. Let guys love June of Jason and I appreciate the answers. Thanks. Kevin, you get me I'm in a day of getting emotional I just came from therapy I love therapy and I hadn't done it for a long time I've gone off on my whole entire life. Here's the thing that I learned about therapy and I just learned it now now pass it onto you. Therapy? Is Really based on your relationship with the therapist and I think in the past I have gone to. Some therapists who were very good but didn't push me and challenge me enough I've gone to some therapists who got me through such amazing Lee hard in difficult times and and then. I felt like I overcame something with them. I haven't gone back and I have a therapist now who? Really connects with me and. And I think what I'm learning is if you don't feel that connection if you don't feel. Challenged. If you don't feel like you're getting anything out of it, it's not therapies fault. It's the person's fault and I mean that in the way that you have to find your person. So don't feel like I want therapy like. Someone in my life close to me not June. was like I you know went to a therapist and they weren't good. So therapy is not good for me I'm like, no, no, no no you got. It's like dating. You know maybe you won't find perfect person I I found mine recently because of location and it just happened that she was really good but. You don't know you don't know. So I would say if you're not feeling it don't be afraid to pull the plug in and try something else. So. That's what I would say and what what did you look for? I don't know I mean. I. Think it is about conversations I. Think it's about, can you be as honest? As you are internally with somebody externally knowing that they'll keep that confidence when I went back to therapy I went back because I was wrestling with something that was bothering me and me I was really trying to. Put a label on. So I, feel like. When I. Went to her I I, wanted to talk about something. I had a reason to go. So started there and by the way that reason. In the I guess I've been with her now for a year that reason has really. Unearthed like it's like a tree and the roots are far reaching but. It took me a while to get down to a deeper level and I don't know anyway. Trust your gut. trustor connection and just go and talk, and you clearly wanted to go to a therapist for a reason. So. Let that be your beginning. You don't have to know the end and you don't go forever. Anyway that's it people. A Lot. What is this show? What am I doing I? Hope I'm not being too honest and to open right now I'm just they're vulnerable. I have a dog got a dog adopted a dog. A beautiful big old. Beast. EXCU and it's been really fun and. I'm opening up people were home I'm adjusting to this. I. Feel like right now highs and lows. What's going on in this world is country really honestly. Is Just, tearing apart at certain points. So find the joy, find the life and Nick yourself better while you can. Well, you have this time if you're not working, you're working from home you have time and if you are working thank you and if you don't want to be working, you're working I'm sorry. and. I've been a situation too. So I understand I'm working, but it doesn't feel totally safe I. Hope it is anyway. They give recalls you can call us anytime at six nine. Am Six, thousand, nine Paul asked you don't need to leave your name, you WanNa leave financial confidential but I would love to hear from you anything at all We take the best ones and I talked you about it right here. All right so. There's IT for the helpline. Let me tell you this. We love original listener themes. We can't get enough of them, and if you WANNA create a theme for the show, any segment of the show do you need them for the mini episodes we need for mailbag and Paul helpline mailbag by the way you probably put on the back burner because truthfully we getting the nail. PAULBLANCO corrections of emissions just right at record it Senate. How to get your off dot com I'm talking fifteen seconds really fifteen seconds is a sweet spot I know in the past said like Oh thirty seconds. Honestly. Fifteen. All right. 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Know I'll take square spaces Style of living that's a hang to do yes. Grisly System as he really is the best. All right we are back, and now while you're prepping for next week, it seems like we might have dropped the ball on some things from last week's episode, which was to twenty two an episode that I? Don't even remember recording like I really don't think a lot of the. Things I was tagged in on twitter. Any of them. It was part of a bigger tour and we're just like it was like cramming for a test that tour. I? I. Had June brain in out in out you just can't you know your body can't hold in all these junky movies. So we're going to turn this over to you. We want to hear what your issues were about our thoughts onto twenty two, and if you had any other thoughts that you wanted us to explore. A little section we like to call corrections and omissions sacred geometry. Wow. Public speaking with a two. To twenty two inspired themes. Love it. We have called through dozens of voicemails and hundreds of added this get made message words, boats on your. Wolf Dot Com to find the best observations, theories, fact checks and useless research, and we present them all here buckle up. There are some doozy's and people I just got shut out public speaking you've done it twice just doing. Mini episodes Pacific songs, Fuck Yeah. That's kind of ingenuity we need. All right. Let's go to the boards. Jim cuyler rights how could Jason Paul engine not realize the twist in the plot I love you guys but I was surprised none of you three figured it out here are the clues picked up on number one? The beginning see the murder in grand central station, but never see the faces, only the bodies and the gun. Clearly, they wanted us not to know who these people were turned out to be a red herring since it was not the same actors playing the characters they go number two, Dylan, and Sara have the same birthday nineteen, eighty-seven Sarah and Jonas. Were previously a couple when Dylan is number four visits the sister who explains the murder Love Triangle happened thirty years ago. It's obvious to me what the twist would be at that point. The little interest I had in the film was gone and I started playing on my phone while watching the movie. Well, let me tell you hear these are some pretty. Obvious I mean I'm not watching this going like Kennedy seven I'm not I'm not keeping note I'm not like. You know an FBI investigator like wait a second you know. So these are. Fine clues. Miss them per se and I just want to say that I figured out six cents before anybody did. So I was in the theater and I was dot I know it I got it, and I think that that actually impact. The wreck spirits success. I appreciate it so much more in retrospect, but in that actual viewing if it was like, yeah. Got It. But can you're smart and if you want me to say you're smart I'll say right now, Jim Cuyler you are smart scary Mirage Rights, Correction Paul misspoke the awful Jim. Carey movie is the number twenty three not seven. Why didn't think it was seven? I may have just said I mean I did not think that Jim, Carrey was in the film seven with Morgan Freeman and Brad Pitt and Kevin Spacey and Paul Tro no no no. No. I'm David fincher directed. No. I did not think that at all. I just knew there was a movie where he was obsessed with a number and I thought it was seven not twenty three. All right. So there you go point taken I misspoke Goddamn it Cameron H I find it highly unlikely that an Avia phobic air traffic controller and an expectant father who was once under review for nearly causing a deadly collision would have the means and the time to accrue the prerequisite hours of flight time required to become a commercial pilot in just under a year according to Dr Google he would have to put an at least fifteen hundred hours just to be considered which works out. To be just under thirty eight weeks assuming he can afford to rent and fuel plane for eight hours a day five days a week. This isn't even taking into account the training time lost to convalescence after a grievous gunshot wound to the kidney. I. Mean. There is a reason why people just don't decide to become a pilot on a whim. Okay. Cameron I like that I liked that theory I didn't know that that's how much time people at to put in clearly John Travolta. Does have that time I wonder how long it took for John Travolta become a pilot and? I. Think Jason, I may have talked about this in Quartet or we talked about it in a previous quartet. That I. Don't like casual pilots. I. Don't like I don't like it. Don't do that on the side. We don't need that on the side, but only Jason are on an episode of blank check that is coming out. That I. Think you've really like it's about used cars I. Think it's on the Patriot I'm not sure anyway. Jason I talking about Robertson Meka's with the bind checks. Team really fun. All right. Let's go to the phones Jeff in Ithaca. For Mr New York I just had an omission that I wanted to point out about the movie to twenty two In the very end there's the climactic scene when Jonas is pointing a gun at Grand Central As, soon, as he pulled the gun out, you hear women scream and then the crowd goes into a frenzy. but rather than dispersing away from the. Kind of pointed straight ahead you see people begin to run in front of the outstretched arm of Jonas and I actually back and counted, and you see forty three individuals who in a desperate attempt to escape decided to choose the path that goes right in front of the. the firearm that presumably could offer any points. So I just thought that was a little bit absurd. also wanted to point out that the shared birthday of four eighteen. As Up to twenty two, all I love the show. Take it easy. Now. That's a fucking clue fourteen how I love that. This movie is good. You Know Look It's panic it's panicked. People don't know people don't know what they're even running from. Don't you have you ever been in a situation where people start running and then you start running to you don't even know why you're running but it feels to me like a very much a cloverfield moment like or you know if you're out, you know I remember when the? Riots were happening in Washington DC CNN had cameras on it. Just seemed like someone was like now we're going over here and if you're in that charged moment yeah, fucking take off. So I believe that someone didn't know what was happening and ran in front of forty three. In the fact, you counted forty-three Kudos to you All right what else we got here All this is Eric in. Fargo. North. Dakota and I have an observation about two, twenty two. So I. Don't know if I play understood. What I'm thinking here that have sometimes do that Supernova happened thirty years ago I would mean that starts that started exploded thirty light years from her. I want to read you something that I found online. Let's assume that a star that is thirty years there. He might use away Supernova forty, two Dr Mark Mark We'd a senior astronomer at Harvard Smithsonian Center for physics. Says that if a star or SUPERNOVA, thirty yards. Away have major effects on I possibly a massive, a massive expansion extreme and more energetic gamma rays. From the Supernova would destroy the ozone layer protects us from the sun ultraviolet rays they would ice nitrogen and oxygen. Chip formation of large smog like nitrous oxide, inter atmosphere. And what have masterful sex life on earth? So swimming that the star that Supernova, it's thirty Lakers way. this movie really should have ended or and with a mass extinction on it. Okay thank you. All GonNa say to you, eric is I loved every bit of that call I don't know if I understood everything I appreciated your research and you're right the world should have ended but. Maybe it was prevented from ending because of these characters I don't know but why mentioned if you are not going To get into it All right. Let's go another call you Paul is actually in Chicago. So I have a bit of a bone to pick with the panel and the Portland Audience About two twenty two. So anyone seemed to be in agreement that is Dylan Branson Jarring Horace just didn't go to grand central none of this would have happened Jonas who yesterday looks like my coffee hall I also think he's Bobo Philip Seymour Hoffman but that's not the point. I believe that Jonas would have killed. Sarah no matter what because at the end when it seemed like they had to put a book end on everything Dylan goes to Jonas says art cave layer place and sees the collage Sarah's face and it looks like serious serial killer abide he sees the Empty Gun case which is just straight up hammer overhead exposition, and then when they're at grand central because they're slightest chancellor. Jonas says things like the mill hearst express, which how could you possibly know that and he calls Sarah? Evelyn. So you whether he was knowingly doing this or not I think he was going to kill Sarah and they were on this collision course for it to happen no matter what. So Dylan have to go in to make sure that it didn't happen. The movie sucks. Give it one star but I hope that changes your mind that he did have to go to grand central even though this movie makes sense anyway one of the show. Thanks so much. Ashley you have changed my mind. Thank you. I appreciate that Yeah. It's like final destination. Right? They're gonNA get killed and what better place to do it in a film then in front of a giant world famous clock. So I get your point I agree with your point and. You, know look. I was in a mood that day. I. You know I just put it together and I think you've now convinced me everyone has convinced me with these calls and. And these. Post that there was a greater thing going on I just didn't get and people I am open to that I am open to be corrected back to the boards triple indy rights so. The three people who died in one, thousand, nine hundred, and we're reincarnated because their souls left their bodies. Let me just tell you something here. I don't remember any of this. Arena coordinated because their souls if their body when they killed they then entered the bodies of babies born that same day Ergo this movie is. positing that babies don't have souls until they are born fetuses must not have souls, which makes it the most pro choice movie ever interesting how a movie that is all about fate Israeli about the right to choose boom triple Lindy. Yes. You brought in politics and I love it. Danny. The Wall rights I am surprised at Paul Jason did not connect to twenty two comic Book Heroes Hochman Hawk Girl Oh interesting. These characters have had many incarnations as a space war alien heroes for their Home Planet as star crossed lovers from different. Castes in ancient Egypt to archaeologists during World War Two and the through line that connects all these iterations that they were doomed to reincarnate to be drawn to each other and to die tragically because of their similar reincarnated rival who cursed them in the first place Jeez just typing it all out reminds me that comics are weird and I love them maybe because of that I didn't find the central conceit that difficult to buy into or maybe I'm just crazy and seeing patterns all over the place. Great. Hock Man Hawk. Girl Call No. I wasn't like this is an impossibly I've seen ideas like this. It was just horribly executed What you just described is way more interesting to me and I think the movie would have been I mean now I don't remember it did they do it multiple times I would like to see them do multiple times anyway I don't know. Aaron Zebra. As Jason Points Out Dylan works out on gymnastic rings as if he's training for the Olympics, we assume that they didn't come standard with the twenty dollar or sorry the twenty K. apartment, which means he hung them himself. He's an everyday and seems to have a pretty strenuous routine. This can't possibly be the first time. A strap has broken evidence further by his comfortability in the repair process. So are we to believe that? These are great to believe that in all those times of climbing the rafters, he never noticed the Jake Redmond Satchel. Interesting. Furthermore. Why would Jake Redmond have hidden? This is his apartment where he lived alone. Wow Aaron. You got me. I don't know this movie has so much backstory in. So little backstory at the same time. I mean I mean, that's the dream right? You're digging around find something you're what is this and? As never happened to me, it happens to everybody in movies but never happened to me I. Want to happened to me I wouldn't mind it happening to me but you're right I mean you would also think that. Someone, WHO's cleaning out that apartment would have cleaned it up someone would have found it when they installed the rings when they installed the rings you're right. You are so right but you know what? Even though you're so right. You're not the winner because this week the winner is the person who didn't try to. Make sense of the film but simply underline the central conceit which is to twenty two is a pro choice movie triple Andy, you are winner. Of. The. Really. Other. Off. As. Always. Nothing, but you will forever hold a place in my heart. All right people. Let's get into it. Oh, did you know that I'm on a brand new show on CBS all access it is called Star Trek lower deck's it's an animated star Trek Show brought to you by Mike McMahon making worked and created solar with Justin Royal and he also worked on Rick and Morty, and this is a love letter to star Trek. 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And so excited to see what you've been up to because I've also I feel like as things become more normalized also been diving in deeper to things that I've really have been enjoying. Time yes. I want to hear all about it. All about it I mean look. I told you offline that I got into the boys in a big Oh. Yeah. I the Amazon show I finished the. Season's about to come out. Yes. That show is great and I read those books a long time ago. But I am I am blown away by what they're able to do on that show it looks fantastic it like that show. I mean, it's so expensive. So expensive. Glove to know how much it costs to make you know because. This is a show that's on Amazon. It's based on a on a long running comic book series that Garth Ennis did, and it is about it's basically about like corporate is super heroes. There's lab. Yeah it's sort of like the the that idea they think a lot of comic books have played with the idea of like how all that power could corrupt you. So what they do here which is so interesting is they've become corporate icons they're not only superheroes, but they're making movies they had reality what if the Justice League was owned by? Like a corporation yeah, and that corporation said Okay Superman, you've gotta go make this movie wonder woman you've got to go make this personal appearance and they were and the Organization itself was corrupt and the superheroes were are disaffected. Are you know are downright like sociopaths some? The and they get into so much great stuff I mean the comic book is amazing. It's so dark I? Mean that was when they there's a won't spoil anything because I, think you should go in if you've not seen it. But when they go to that that faith based like outdoor convention as wow, they really are hitting every aspect of how. These superheroes are getting involved in. A wonderful. It's a wonderful kind of skewering of. At the time wasn't wasn't true, which is like how obsessed we are culturally now with superheroes how much a part of our lives the MC you or the DC universe have become have become in fact pop culture. And these stories, the boys refers to a group of individuals whose mission it is. They are regular people whose lives have been negatively affected by these superheroes who take it upon themselves to keep the superheroes in check. They are trying to. Bring them down as much as you can bring them down because they are all powerful literally and all. So the cult of personality it's it's so good. It's so dirty. It's so dark Elizabeth Shue I listen to everything. She's so good. She's wonderful in. So good young. The performances are great. It looks terrific. You know because it's got, you know a lot of. In their superheroes and stuff and they and it doesn't look it looks really cinematic. It looks really good. It doesn't look like for example, you're watching A.. W. Or agents of shield or a you know one of the Arrow or one of. All fine. But they're all kind of cartoony this in. To it yeah, I mean I think what I really I feel like whenever you see a superhero costume screen, it looks I mean not on a TV screen it just looks dumpster like it never looks like because they don't have that money to spend to really create a really good costume in here I. Think they've kind of figured that out as well. No young looks this child in an urban it all kind of sits on Karl urban shoulders who is has for me been a long standing like I think he's terrific and Gosh. And wish he was getting more. He's always somebody that I'm like I wish he was getting better stuff now you should be I mean no fasted your Butler but he should be our Gerard Butler type of guy he I agree I agree he should be working all the time in big action movies or whatever he wants to do because he's also very funny. He was funny as bones in trick movies him. But also, yeah, like connected it to like La Respectful Oh my gosh. That was still his own performance. And he actually speaks in his own accent, which is great too because they think like whatever I mean everyone can do whatever they wanna do. But when you are free to just use your own voice is performance here. Is it even more from me? I really loved it and I'm excited the second season's about to come out I'm I'm excited because. I love to the first season and also because I just finished a bunch of shows. Okay. Then I'm now like, Oh, I need something to start. So I'm here where are you at? Yeah, I just finished I think we talked about it before I finish Patriot, which is also an Amazon's which Conrad's show and then because I was. So I was so into Patriot and this was a show that came out a bunch of years ago it kind. Of got lost in the shuffle I feel like because it was one of Amazon's first shows. One of Amazon's first originals. I guess and it's a terrific really incredible like one hour show about it's about spycraft and a guy who's in the CIA. But in order to do what he has to do and it's a very tension filled show what his what his kind of assignment is requires him to have have a it's called a knock the. He has to be inside of a company to do his job. So he works at a Piping Corporation. So it's like an office comedy in the Piping Place, but then otherwise he it's super tense. But then there's also really funny stuff. Great Music Steve Conrad. Then went on, did a show at epochs called Perpetual Grace Limited okay it's Ben Kingsley and Jacki Weaver and Simpson. Yeah. Posters for this and people loved the show. What it was about yeah. So then I went I watched that show there's only one season of that and it was canceled Patriot has two seasons. This has one season and this was on epic's. Fantastic very different style, but very similar tone. I love banking's Li I mean shit a he's like and Ben Kingsley, not to spoil anything is in like sexy beast Ben. King. I was just GonNa say that's my favorite I mean. So it's Yuck can rad. I was just having a conversation about him the other day because this argument and maybe you and I may have already talked about this. So but the idea that like iron man three is better than I think people remember it to be. One of the best marvel movies and his performance in that film. Shows, Jimmy. How good of an actor? He is like yeah, and there's a one shot like a marvel one shot him just about the mandarin that is you gotta see it's online I believe my friend who wrote Ironman three actually wrote and directed that he actually did a superhero show in BBC on the BBC. His name is drew Pearce. His show was great as well as all these superheroes living together Gosh what was the name of that but the one shot with Ben Kingsley gives you a lot more of that character goofy like, yeah like bengals. Is he can. He can pull off. Looking appearing as though he's a menacing super villain and then he can peel away and be a bumbling actor underneath it. You know he's very, very fun and very fun to watch and is really terrific in perpetual grace as is all of those people I mentioned and Steve Conrad also has a like a group of regular players that are in all of his shows. Kurt would Smith -Tario Quinn his brother, Chris Conrad. And they're all fantastic Kurt would smith. Between. I feel like weirdly because I watched robocop because he was such a part of Patriot and perpetual I feel like I've been seeing a lot of Kurt with Smith in Corinth is very strange. I mean, I love a good Kurt wordsmith role by the way that show that. My friend is called no heroics and it's raining. Yeah. The same idea essentially superheroes just taking craft duty active. superheroes. Show yeah. Really Fun. So that perpetual gray show is on epic's which I had to get in order to watch it. You can get. So I, am is on add on, right? Yes. Do and so as a result I ended up watching and being obsessed with. Epics has a Laurel Canyon documentary that's all this music scene and Laurel Canyon I want to be very clear right now the documentary I'm talking about is not the Jacob Dylan Laurel Canyon Documentary Jacob Dylan made Laura Kenyon documentary that is very available. and. So if you look it up, you're gonNA find. That is the one that Howard Stern is talking about or is the Jacob Bill in the one that I believe the Jacob Dylan one is the one they were talking about Howard, stern although somebody else on Howard. Stern did say you know there's a better one and that is what I'm talking about I think it's Called Laurel Canyon it's it's four hours long. It's too. It's a two parter. It's only available right now on epic's which is weird. But you can sign up for a free week of epics if you have apple TV or if you have whatever you, there is like a promo. Yeah. and it's awesome and there is so much in my life right now in quarantine is. Like, I spend so much time watching consuming stuff and like, and then crying during most of it. So this one, there's so much Joni Mitchell footage in this and I'm I'm obsessed with Joni Mitchell. Yeah. I was just like screen shotting and take I was like Thaba being and and and filming stuff. Was Oh. No just for me. So I, can have it was amazing. I was never seen this footage before of Joni it's great. So it's a great I really enjoyed that documentary touches on so it's still Laurel Canyon music scene so I'm looking at David crosby stills, Nash, Young Joni, Mitchell and the monkeys and everybody the turtles, all of these musicians at around the same time congregate and start living in. Laurel Canyon in Los Angeles as a neighborhood because it's relatively cheap but still central enough to all of the kind of music clubs that they would play the whiskey or the troubadour or any of those places. So it is awesome. Island eight the one just again even though you're very clear that's on epic's it's the one directed by Alison. Ellwood so she is. And she actually was behind American high, which is something I saw long long time who. Are. Urging. Jessica. And I pitched with the first. The first deal I ever we ever made Jessica Saint Clair, and I sold a show to comedy central that was based a little bit on that America high show, which was a TV show in which we would have played documentary filmmakers Filming School Kids America Venom East, right? Yeah. But then we regress and start to like want to be in highschool arse like we start to be the story like the popular. Friends with Saint Clair hang out with them. 'cause the popular girls never liked her, and then my character gets to be like it gets asked to be in a band and I'm so I'm so as the series would have gone on, I would be playing in the battle of bands and she would wrong with the popular girls. We unspoiled. We've been talking about back to school movies and not to bring up unspoiled. But the we interviewed amy heckling and wow, she was talking about fast times and was so interesting because I had forgotton that Cameron Crowe did that he went back Oh. Yes. School and and like became a student and befriend these people to get these stories and actually WanNa go read that book. I'd like to read that like she said that the original script for fast times was much more like porkies and then and then and then her and cameron like both love the stuff in the in the book. And they're all of this and then basically just took already putting the book and made the the script this really you know why that movie is so good move. That's really cool. But I just love that idea I mean just think about going back to school and I know it's been done with Drew Barrymore too. But the idea of like just being in school and Oh yeah under false them crazy errol Morris had a series on Bravo. This is this is the Bravo that existed twenty some odd years ago. Yeah it was not what we currently understand is Bravo and it was called first person. Documentary filmmaker WHO's made you know documentaries that you all know but you know thin Blue Line and Florida that town in Florida. Four. Yes. Fog of war. Exactly. So He's incredibly prolific wonderful Documentari- documentarian and he did a TV show for the first person and it's about it's hit applying his documentary technique to just people in the world regular people and one of the people he profiles is a guy who I believe one who wants to be a millionaire. But then also it was found out that he would he. Would see really move and re. Himself in high school so that he could member that Yoda Highschool. Again, it's like this crazy story that is absolutely true that is teased out in this aero- Morris episode that's really fat really weird and fascinating. I have. Talking about documentaries made me think of this one documentary that gene and I watched last night and and even call it a doc is is. Is Loose. It's called million dollars each house or something on on on a documentary. Young People J.. Work to make it. No. I I turned to Jew. And I said to her as I've never seen anything more long island than this. Yeah. This show to me and I don't even know that I I think, I'm just kind of captured by like. Oh. My God I grew up with these people. I don't know if this resonates with anyway I. don't even know even interested in the show because they can't look past it more than these are the people that I. was uncomfortable with and hides. Yeah. Better. Now, adult everything about show scratches an issue for me that allows it. I have trouble watching like Long Island and very. Certain elements of. Real housewives. Of. New. Jersey. Scratch it to I'm around my mom's ends and stuff and I, and I like it. I, can't. This is not I don't want. To close. Yeah and that show that show really I mean like last night it was like Like I just felt like. Really. Got Me in a way that got me angry Evan felt like that in a show like if you like. When you put it in Long Island and in the Ham, and it's like they're just selling real estate in the Hamptons. It's it's it off. That's amazing and horrible it really it really like. Got Way. That's really a I've been. I've been doing a lot of I got in a Jag of now going on just like more like music Docs. Watch that. Laurel Canyon. One I watched the one that's about the band which ones were brothers, which is fantastic. I also watched a couple that are like that are not recent documentaries, but either re watch them or watch them for the first time. There's a the this documentary about the band called X. With Jesus. John DOE and Van. It's a great. Band. Los Angeles punk band and it's called the unheard tapes or the unheard music the unheard music and it is fucking amazing. It is a documentary that has told exclusively in footage. And Wow period specific interviews. So it's not like static talking heads now it's not like it's not like looking back on their career. It's it's present tense using it's very collage it feels like almost an experimental film, but it is all about x and it's fantastic. L. The L. A. of that era of the of the punk rock scene that is a part of in that era and it's really it's on prime it's worth watching He knew it. That makes me think of what I I am so excited about this Peter Jackson documentary about the beadle you heard about because it feels like that's what he's going to be doing. They're just kind of not tampering with it just. Yeah. Arenas genuine. Yeah. Exactly and really assembling it. This stuff where it's footage based is really because that's Laurel Canyon is like that as well. It is just footage and then people's words play as vio worry is no you know you know people first person that was. That Apollo Doc was one of the best things I've ever seen. Ever. I mean, as far as documentary because it was all the footage from the Apollo Moon launch and they just they feel that they invested on every the Etta Cameron every possible. Asian. Oh Jason you're GONNA do it. Do it and make your house as dark as he can make it and turn that sound up. It is no. No video it's just it's just footage. Footage with the real voices everyone Yakking J S. it's it is one of the one of my favorite docs have ever seen. I would love down Yeah Okay Great Apollo Thirteen. Yeah I. Think maybe it's not that. I know it's thirteen I'll figure you can look it out and I also watched I also watched a documentary about a band that I loved coming up called S- lint. That is like it's a Louisville ban that had a huge impact on a lot of like the bands that came around. After them but they were like teenagers who kind of only made one record and Lance bangs did a documentary. On their anniversary that's called bread come bread crumb trails and it's incredible will Oldham and all the guys participate and it's really fascinating and interesting it's it's just it's it's wild to watch because it's a documentary of a scene like Louisville music of that time that's really vibrant and exciting, and also like how these teenagers these kind of like teenagers who are all in these disparate kind of punk bands, hardcore bands, different kinds of bands come together and form this like incredibly evolved. Fascinating band that then kind of burns out and the the after effects are felt all throughout the kind of mid West music scene and it's amazing. The Apollo eleven by the way Apollo Eleven grey doc I was thinking about. You have you seen the Action Park and that's on Hulu. Have you seen the Action Park documentary yet? No, that is a good. It's great. A thin park like is action perk like part of your childhood at all or no one hundred percent another like I remember that my parents I mean Again without spoiling it because it's really fun. My parents put the fear of God in Me Action Park was flocking dangerous very dangerous. It's all you everybody injuries breaking their Nath and the. 'cause he was. I remember there was a one. Can think of it like would go up a very tall staircase and then you would get into a tube and the to book down and you get so much momentum that you would go like you would do a full circle until you go out. But that's where kid broke his neck. It's like you are in you're doing these I don't like. I don't know if I love this Gary Waterpark ride because. I don't have enough control of my body I like I will do a water bucket or I'll do some things but I'm not doing anything where my my body will be held. No I don't need that I. Don't want that. I don't that kind of pressure on my body I mean rollercoasters. Yes but. I'm not geared I. Agree I that kind of stuff. Well, that's the thing is like those kind of Rye or those kind of places are. If you're going to like the random off the beaten path. Yeah. Action Park. Type. There are places in New England that were similar to Action Park that we're just kind of really sketchy theme parks or you know they. Were like this is dangerous, but then but action park is very famous for. Causing so much Demi and destruction. The the DOC is called Class Action Park because that's great is it is the world's most insanely dangerous amusement park and that is. That is it was so I mean and I only knew it. Like that as a kid I'm sure the people who made this doc probably figured it out as well. But like I remember there was a thing called an Alpine slide. So it was like, yeah, we get into little car and you'd have a break if you kids are flipping off of that and your skinning the fuck outta their legs and needs you refine, but it was like. It made me understand that theme parks were dangerous I remember like, yeah, there is a big one. Yeah. Yeah. The I grew up near adventure land, which is figured prominently in good time the Safdie brothers movie your good times. and. And that caught fire when I was a kid and there was an even six flags great adventure I think people died in haunted house they're like, I. I grew up I. Love crazy parks. But I grew up around knowing that they are incredibly dangerous like the six flags fire was like. Would you WANNA dine a fucking haunted mansion i. mean that was like, Oh, I know. That but the irony is insane I know. I mean, there were so many fires and so many weird shit going on like Oh man. Yeah. It's so nuts. What else was going to say Oh, I was GONNA. Say I was GONNA mentioned I've I've watched a bunch of stand up specials. Yeah. I watched Sam. J has one that just went up. I think recently that's called three o'clock in the morning. That was fantastic. Yeah. She's fantastic I. Loved that I watch Eddie Pepe tone special which I. Will really made me laugh. Every pepperoni tune if you don't know any pepe tone and episode is a staple of the newer comedy. and La comedy the first time I ever got a Gig I was hired with Eddie Pepperoni and then he pepa don't feels funny yo-you. Feels like he has been fifty five cents since I met him. Yeah. Twenty some odd years ago. Yeah. Yeah. And he is I mean and I don't think he'd be offended is the most blue-collar New York guy but also on this path of enlightenment like it's always A very interesting position it's very funny to watch him as an from an old man's point of view do very funny like twitter jokes. Yeah. Like do very funny jokes that are about like modern like social media and stuff. But from the point of view of like a detached old man, it's he knew the very funny special. It's on Amazon and if you don't know him give it the first five minutes. If you're not like cackling in that first five and I mean I was like this is the best open of a standup show ever because yeah, it feels as if it was not. Prepared at all. well-crafted. It's he's so fucking funny man he won. It's a great special and then I can't remember I might have mentioned this when we talked last. I remember. But I also watched Hannibal's Miami night. Oh? Yes. On and that's I don't know if we talked about this I. I've been doing this thing where I've been holding off on watching certain things that really love like the quarantine kind of started maybe a week or two and to better call Saul they love it so much and I don't think I was a mentally in the right place to enjoy it. So I just kind of put it on the back burner and then I finally like just devoured it and one of the other shows that are really love so much is search party and midway through that season right now and man. that. This season is great. It reels geyser thing that show is great. Very rewarding. Especially like they managed to change the show every season but yet they keep a continuity like it's like You know it's a really rose. Yeah. If you don't know it, this is this is a show that has been on tbs right starring, Ali a Shaukat and it is now if you have HBO Max, it is part of HBO Max. So you can if you have that service now it's all three seasons are available to you to watch. I cannot recommend a show more highly. Like, it's some of the best they they capture whatever hipster is is in a way that is so unique and Yeah, it's really really. Opposite of that, which is also on Hbo Max we Hbo Max we talked about this has all the Alan Partridge Oh my gosh. So good right. But they also, so they have like a pretty good library of just British comedies. So I've just watched both seasons of Jamie Dimitrios, staff. Let's flats. Title that is impossible to say easily. Staff let flats Jamie Dmitri is he and his his sister is in it is well and she plays the she's in what we do in the shadows is her name Nadia. She's married to Matt Berry she's though Vampire. Yeah. So it's her and Jamie brother he was on an episode of fleabag. He's like British comedian and basically it's about a like a an apartment rental agency. It's about a guy who tries to rent apart Moga and but it's just in that British, way it is it is really just a a show about a bumbling moron who who is constantly vacillating between incredible arrogance pomposity and then crippling vulnerability and insecurity and it is it makes me laugh it's also about a Greek. Family. So there's a part of it that really hits me right on that front as well. It is fucking hilarious. There's only twelve episodes of total. So it's it's a super easy there half hour episodes very easy to watch very quickly I burn through the whole thing over the weekend it's fucking grow. I. GotTa Watch it I I got caught the other night. I. Was doing my puzzle. I've been building puzzles during quarantine which Oh. Yeah. Fun I baby. No I get it I get it. I did a really intense Mondo one for marvel ten year anniversary of marble, and now on a die hard one and they're to these Great Mondo print. So it's kind of fun. The Dr One is is very cute like. Caught caught in the middle of. What do you do? You listen to stuff while you're doing? Are you? A lot of the Times I pick shows that I can enjoy. But I don't need to have my. Only look at it. I listened to that's how I do like I've done a lot of. Stand up specials while I'm puzzling I. Kind of check in on it I don't have to watch every visual moment of a stand-ups but yeah, because I'm kind of in a zone but I'm also like I feel connected both like. So last night, I was working on my puzzle and watching the Alan Partridge special where he appears. On a show an ought. A show about books like so he's like so basically he's promoting his book, but he did it in a really funny way he created like a parody of. Literature show or a book show and it's it's so great because they'll read sections of the book which the book is. Amazing. The audio book is even better but. Him just talk about how much of a reader he is and how he loves. And he has nothing at no. No. He never really with an example. Yeah. He clearly just on this is a publicity tour and it's It's gory. It's so it's such A. Such. A small thing it's like it's A it's over the top hilarious in the sense of like ears a crazy because you're just watching him flounder for forty minute. Yeah. On this show that he has no business being on these just doing it as a cash grab and it's and he's got to sit there and have this educated conversation. It's so. I love that about like British television that you could do that. He's one of the best people creating those really uncomfortable sitting in those really uncomfortable beats when when when his character has utterly failed to do what he set out to do you know Um hills me. Yeah. I've watched a whole bunch of the Steve Coogan stuff just. It's really great that all of this stuff is just there. Now I mean like this sounds Corny but now no, I mean look I'm so Yeah I'm going to go and watch things that I've been wanting to watch the other thing that had been another talking about shows have been going slow on and I'm almost done. But I've really been like doling only out for myself is I may destroy I. Don't know if he talked about this show I haven't this is I'm about to start I I won't I won't spoil anything all I will say. I was nervous to watch the show because people it. It's a pretty hard show to watch. End It is, but it's not as hard as you think it is to watch. It's what I think is so amazing about this show and I would love to will let's reconvene 'cause. 'cause I'M GONNA I'm about to now that it's about to start it. Yeah. Now just say. What is the show is funny. It looks beautiful. The acting is amazing but it delivers one or two gut punches per show and it's one and I think it's I've just never seen a show. That can vacillate or fluctuate. So seamlessly between tones and it feels so I mean it's very much like life. It is It's awesome. I can't wait for you to watch and I can't wait to finish it and I would love to talk to you more. It really is yeah she's amazing. All I. WanNa say is she made chewing yes. A couple of years ago the same same writer. Actor, Miguel goal I hope I'm pronouncing her first name is. But all I want to say is this give her and the Phoebe waller treatment because she is so deserving of it like she is. So deserving of this is want to make sure that like people not that I have. It's like this show is twelve for everybody I know has been talking about this show for the last couple of weeks and so I'm excited and it's almost I. Don't WanNa. See here anything else. I WANNA be like you go make what every I mean. Just keep on making your shit like I don't want to you. You want her to retire. But anything know that voices. So kind of. It's like she's disfigured out something in its wow. She's awesome and I love chewing gum to also. Yeah I was GONNA say can we can we? Can't remember if we mentioned this already but the EPA, the second episode of the Chris Gathered show that we did together not the what's in the dumpster episode, but the other one is also on HBO. Max. Oh, it is. That's great I believe it is on HBO now. So an episode that So some of you have watched we've we've promoted the hell out of the dumpster episode of the Chris Gathered show that we did many years ago. That's available for free on Youtube. Now, if you're in an HBO subscriber, the Second Episode that's I think called screw it, show us your pets. Yes. is also available for you to watch, and it was both of which are some of my favorite things that I've ever done. is you and I toward Chris gathered on his own TV show. So if people are interested, you can watch that I'll shut out a couple of other things just quickly I finished Avatar the last air bender and I have no three and a half seasons of the legend of Cora Wa which is fucking incredible I think it's absolutely fantastic in the same way that I feel like. The Harry Potter books do the Kora. Story is aged up from Avatar. Great. So it is older people older problems more complex storytelling really fun to to go through I've really been enjoying that I watched both seasons of an incredible TV show called lodge forty nine on. Yeah Yeah We. Jim Yet oh okay this is great guy that's on my list of yeah got holy. Shit, it is fucking great Both of those seasons are fan fantastic watches and are really good what else oh I. Did we talk about the Sochi Tano audiobook? Which I'm. I'm actually reading Charles Soul. Darth vader comic from twenty seventeen that one on. One it's vader one and basically pick right when the emperor awakes Anikin. Any realize. Starting it's Cool and the premise of weight. It's a booker. It's a comic Oh. Sorry Comic at Charles Goal. And so basically, it starts right. You know. So gets like no no that moment and then it makes it really great like it takes that goofy moment and transforms it into something so much darker and. The, and this is not spoiling anything like the first part of it is you know he's like your lightsaber was stolen. But that is not you. Anymore you need to get a SIP blade which is red and and you have to go get this blade. So his goal is to get it's like Darth vader get his awesome so. That's great. That is also part of the Sochi no audio book because Sochi Taino at the end of clone wars gives up her life abors in an effort to so that people will think she's dead. Well right. Now, I'm in the middle of clone wars and I think she's dead in clone wars another I'm not a clone wars in in rebel rebels. Yeah. Oh. Interesting. Yeah. So. I. Guess. Potential spoilers. But so a good portion of the book is about how and what it takes for her to find and replace I won't use any specifics and and create a new lightsaber who I love. It's so exciting and electric to watch I just WANNA shout out a couple of other things just because Oh PODCAST. Wise. I don't know if you've been listening to podcasts. The new season of you must remember this is all about polly plateau. Yeah. That was phenomenal actually. Instagram live with Carina where we We watched what's up doc, which was so good. He never seen. So good. What's up talk also on Amazon Prime Right now I'm watching so many weird old movies because they're just on prime or your there on November. So good. and. Then I'll also say I'll also shut out another podcast that I love that's called the secret history of Hollywood. And it is this guy who does these deep dive season long almost almost like book length like some of the episodes are three four hours long Oh. Wow. The first. Season I guess the first whole season was about the producer writer producer. Val Luton kind of changed monster movies in Hollywood is part of old golden age of Hollywood kind of Guy incredibly interesting Made Cap people and All these movies and all this stuff all the like really integral in changing horror and what we understand horror in in modern times and now he's just started a new season of the show and it's all cary grant and Oh. Oh, I got two episodes are like each five hours long or something like that. It's super impeccably researched incredibly indepth So if you are somebody that. Likes those kind of deep dive podcasts you know like hardcore history or whatever if you can if you like those kind of deep dives, secret history of Hollywood is a very worthwhile addition to your podcast Majority of time has been taken up with the NBA. And the playoff just have to say like There's so much talk about so much unpacked there. But as an NBA fan, it's amazing to see. What they are doing and how they're using their voices to effect change the fact that we are going to be able to use the stadiums as polling places and that they're going to basically use the power of these owners or these equity holders to. Push some political change. It's so exciting and it's a Cooper's Fan I've been so like incredibly blown away by Doc rivers who if you've not seen his speech that happened? Last week ish. After. James, Blake it's really amazing and Bringing us all back to podcast I will say this. Another thing that's been going on is one of the guys in the Clippers Paul George you good player. Playing terribly like awfully and he finally came back I had this emotional game and it was. Due to mount mental health issues and he. Had this very open dialogue about his depression and anxiety how he just couldn't play and he wasn't himself and it was like so cool that the NBA is all this amazing stuff as far as I bring forth issues of depression and social justice and voting, and this is where I bring it back Jj redick has a podcast and. Jd former clipper now in New Orleans. Has. Great interviews with players and they can get to go deep deserves a great interview with Pat? Beverley. There's a great injury with Landry but JJ redick's podcast. He it's a player talking to. to other players get a point of view that's incredibly unique and let's just about the bubble and it's really. Cool to see the NBA kind of embracing this sort of stuff and Yeah really. Really Cool. That's great. I love it. All right. Well, we'll We'll talk soon jason. Pleasure. Thank you. I look forward to it. All right. Thank you Jason. That was awesome. Now that we got to twenty two out of the way, let's talk about next week's movie. We are going from sacred geometry to crimefighting religious dinosaurs. That's right. Next week we watching veloce pastor pastor. Apart. From my MVP simply describes it as after losing his parents approach traveled China, where he inherits mysterious ability that allows them to turn into a dinosaur at first horrified by his new power a hooker convinces them to use it to fight crime and I'M GONNA say sex worker here because I am doesn't do it right. And Ninjas let's listen to the trailer. It's an interest trailer. Troubled priest? How long has it been since your last confession? He's been involved. I do drugs sell drugs. Murder? Being food. What are you talking about? Tommy turned into dinosaur and. 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Top 5 Hotels // mid90s, Can You Ever Forgive Me?

The Film Vault

1:30:04 hr | 2 years ago

Top 5 Hotels // mid90s, Can You Ever Forgive Me?

"Welcome to the film vaults. Everyone. That's i'm. I'm your host threats day top five hotel on the heels of top-five motel scenes, come top five hotel, motels themselves scenes. Because hotels often are we have found more distinct films more of the character unto themselves. Oh, I just thought it would list. Yes, rare that we do this where we have to hybrid categories. Gotta play off each other about toback lotta time. We're worried that it's going to make it seem like, you know, we're just gonna mail it then by doing very similar things. But then they on the the other side of that is I'm concerned that if we did it like six months from now people be like didn't have to that. Exactly sounds familiar plus in our research for motels. I was finding all sorts of movies that were coming up on this that that were hotels and very different. Indeed. Yeah. Very different bird. In fact, all of mine all of mine are well all under named whereas usually motels are often kind of non nondescript it's gonna the idea of motel roadside in read. These are done hotels can be very different or did these. Yeah, I got some fun facts and whatnot about mine and some interesting choices. So hopefully, it'll it'll it'll work for the top five here left off lobbyist wants to. I the number one. There's one quintessential. For one and I didn't have that on there. So essentially, I six actually I've seven because I have time for top for five five eight five Bieber. Very similar one ripped off from the other three of mine. Battling are the hotel is named the continental. Isn't that weird? Does this happens to be we have at least one crossover, perhaps, perhaps I stayed at a continental have you? Yeah. I'm watching C. I can tell you for a fact that I have Washington DC the Willard hotel continental the living museum fucking living museum. Abraham lincoln. I ever say there for ten nights before it became president every president like up until like a great recently every president would stay at the Willard before before they're night before inauguration, really Martin Luther King. He he's he was there. And then he marched for the I have a dream speech state at the Willard to living. Resin Trump's day there. I said till recently, it might have been broken recently. Maybe perhaps it is a tradition, and it was shut down. Like a condemned. For awhile. I never condemn, but it was just was in disrepair, and then Nixon use it as headquarters in the sixties places. Awesome. Interesting fucking love the wheeler-dealer deal to steals expensive hotel. And how long does this for years three or four years? Did it feel old school or renovated? It was. It was restored. Oh, that's better way, better vintage, hey, quick correction and retraction from last week. I had motel on my list those called Bakti, which is fine. I did see that once it was decent movie. And it was a good motel Angie berry similar to the hotel that you would see the motel you'd seen identity, which is a far superior film. That's the one that actually saw two times. Shapiro Z. I love then. He's good. I haven't seen. Identity confused with fourteen o eight both with John Cusack. Over there or identity theft all the both different movies, but fourteen eight identity vacancy all kind of meld together for obvious reasons. But identities my favorite of those three. Oh, interesting. I'm not fortunately or have not seen that doesn't shock movies. A little secret. I have not seen fourteen later didn't. Didn't I I can tell you proximity when dentist came out because I think we were in we were working together to promote it doesn't three. I think someone come in to promote it on don't care to threes when it cannot. Hey, quick little we're only weaken half out. I think this is the second time that say this. Hey, I have a private screening groupers coming up and you for listening to this program could be invited to get a ticket. So over to Anderson Cowan dot com, it'll be at the free cinema. My buddy Trevor Dylan's figure co go runs it and cones free to cinema on profit. And it's a it's a festival feeder they say it's festival year round over there. They actually outbid some of the big big theaters to get Mandy if you love that Santa Ana, Orange County, California, Orange County. It's like an hour outside of LA. And it's going to be a party. Can I say this also if if you're a listener out of town, I know you had fatter tonight. You've had. People fly in for for screenings around the country from like neighboring states or or locales, there's an airport a major airport in Santa Ana John Wayne airport, drew, and if this is your last chance, and you really wanna see groupers and you're out of town as also southwest per fairly major hub for them, or at least have a lot of flights going, errands, Wisconsin. It would be very easy flight and Uber ride. I would imagine to the theory probably dollars. Most all the cast will be there as well. As my corona. Oh. Don't know type is going to be I will be there. And then I'm going to QNA afterwards as well. Which was we moderated. Brian. Brian will be doing the moderation. And it'll be interesting because it'll be right after he had just seen the film for the first time Khurana be up there because he he only. Onset is onset. It's going to be a party. This is my last the last one I have complete and total control over. Hopefully, it gets an actual theater released. A maybe one or two theaters sometime early next year. Hopefully, it's a couple of festivals. Who knows but I this is for sure the last one that I'm gonna be in very excited Jimmy excited I've been excited for a while they're drinking, but they serve booze. There hotels that are around the area that are cheap. How long? The film. It's an hour and forty five. Okay. Perfect. So I guess if I should drink on how long do he is? Because if I have a couple of drinks, I might be in bad shape after go the bathroom at some point. Right. I can show you what happens shortish, Mr. talk. I know what happens. So we're on the to tears as well again for this one. I'll be showing the shorts up front if you like like like the one of the Premo tickets and getting early and. Priority seating and see some of the shorts. You cold caucus productions tour shirt with that with all the cities on the back as well. Or you can just do the screen and a self and QNA which you can get either. Or both those over an Anderson Cowan CO W A N dot com. I think it'll be at the top of Anderson and Brian dot com by the time, we'll use sign. My groupers are my CCP t-shirt. No. I don't sign shirts. I signed racks. Follow question will you sign? My RAC I've signed a number of posters, and I feel bags my signatures, so piss poor that it actually ruins the my group or supposed thrown out. But I have I have swag. I got Merck chef towards March beautiful shot glasses Jones, leftover film, vultures can burn. I might have a few. But that cuts into my action, I have to match what is going to buy film vulture. It's going to development sports groupers 'cause. Say you're out by shirt, only if only let's do this. Let's do people actually see about some films a week light, by the way. Good. I saw you saw three films probably two to one and I'll be doing next week. Yeah. I'm gearing up for the the American film market, which is starts started a couple days ago as you're hearing this and it runs through November eighth year in Santa Monica. It's the largest film market in the world. Brian happens annually in Santa Mona Lowes hotel, and I will be going for the first time this year. It's just like a fish market, except they sell filled throw the films like they do at the pike place and about a billion dollars in in in deals. Go down most movies be happy with a small percentage of that very looking to sell the movie necessarily looking to make relationships and find like maybe a sales agent and maybe producers wrap maybe distributing company. I've already got one on talking to. But it's going to be a learning. Curve for sure, and it's going to be an opportunity to to hopefully have some good information for can share here. Speaking information, if you're a patron subscriber big news for exciting news. I would I would say this for this month episode that we're doing when we do the full standalone up the bonus episode where no one. Yeah. The bone is episode. This month is top five most. Offensive lines. All the honest. I'm kinda excited I'm pretty excited. And we've got clips all they'll be ups, and I got some offensive lines coming into research. I learned so much about glorious bulky white men that play for like various NFL teams. Yeah. The Dallas Cowboys and the type to all these. Fucking. That that like offensive line, so defend. Myriad of offensive lines all of which we will here. And you know, what I got. It's one of those ones where if the listeners like it. Maybe we'll we'll dip back in. This is a few months. I this is definitely theme is definite theme going through mine. We'll get to that. Also on this months bonus episode. We will have listener this is third or fourth time. And he assured me with me the bullets that he's going to be talking about listener Xs are Hollywood insider, who we meant his voice who can't hear. He gives them good Intel on the stars born he's got some he's got some good until some dirt on a particular distribution company that we all know in. Yeah. It's gonna be fun. So that's worthwhile. Value added. Awesome. Looking part of that. Are the line have that for five bucks a month? Part of it offensive to you or lines that most people would find offensive your line of offense is very all very high. One of one of mine is just I'm offended and every time I hear it. I just kinda cringe, and it's a really upsetting. I got one of those like standby, guilty pleasure. One of those picks Brian. And then I got I got picks that like my number one is just I might go to hell for perpetuating out there in the world. Just for putting it even more giving it more more legs like that might be like the straw that breaks the camel's back and sends straight to hell have you played it before on the film vault old incarnation. No doesn't involve Cima Blair. I don't know. We're going to give him too much. Have. I speaking Selma Blair, so I had lunch with solar. William freakin. Oh. I wish she willing freaking what why why similar William freakin? What's the connection exorcist, Linda Blair? Oh players. I'm confused with my Blair's. Oh, no. No, no, no, Brian. You're talking about storytelling. I've met I got to have Linda luckily on the list to I got I wish we raised all this. We're infrequent record. I I went to dine of by -gratulations dining band camp. She is now a married woman the books guys fellow layup layoff, she married a an Irish, blah who's very kind. Good good looking guy. There goes my chance and. I was gonna wedding theory weekend, and she was kind enough to put micro and I at the coolest bestest table at the whole way. And it was the salons able micro myself. Fanny flag wonderful moment. She wrote any flag issue wrote the novel of fried green tomatoes screenplay for fragrant middle. Also, Sherry Lansing the first ever CEO head of a major studio. Okay. As well. Female as well. As husband William free can director of cruising. Right. Persist. And by Doyle, Joe, but killer Joan bug, which that's I told the whole store and the after a fun story. And that's how I loosened them up. I just let them know came right out of the gate and Mike as well. You know that I love that killer, Joe and bug so much, and it was impressive. You made those like all these years after your after your initial hits with the French connection and keep takes his sunglasses off. And that was like when he was in. We had the greatest fucking ninety minutes. There was so much fun. It is nice to be able to hit someone like that. With the the movies. They don't get a talk to talk to about the most of the exorcist French connection about law. But it was a great movies. But he's probably one of the top ten fifteen living directors as far as pedigree goes, and it was such an honor to be able to shoot the shit with the guy and micro. And I were just giddy about it. All right. So dynamic camp. We'll have her back onto soon is one of the film's liquid us. Well, the one of the ones I signed, you know, but I can't do that. I have two movies one theaters. Hopefully, you saw as well called mid nineties. And then I have your movie that you assign me that's from twenty twelve about a political race from twenty eight timely. Astle mid-nineties do mid nineties now, and is written in direct by Jona hill, and his feature film debut directing debut, starring sunny get his name right Soljic soldier, sunny, Lucas hedges and Catherine waters. Hedge from Manchester by the scene, Catherine Waterson, also number of child actor younger actors, I should say who I did not know. Sure, they're actors. Yeah, they're not they're all completely unknown for the most part. He just found them any look through four years of his life into this this movie, and this you might not know about Jona. But like this was his first love his first passionate. I drive forced to get into the business was to write and direct. It wasn't to escape he fell into act in one of one of the most distracting things, and I'm sure you have the same thing as I was trying to just watch the movie and separate the idea Jona hill behind the camera and Joan Joan hill writing this Jonah hill inserting themselves not to say the deal. It was inserted quite a bit quite a bit. What do you mean? I I was drawn night tension withdrawn the direction many times, and I don't think it would have been if it was like a no name or Mike harmony Coron or something, you know, or saying some more skilled or something more and more aware. I it just because Joni hill is such a name such face. We all know is we're so well than actors really hard to forget that I was watching Jona hill movie. It was distracting that being said interesting. I was distracted further read. Those distracted because I felt like there was obvious that we were watching someone to first time direct toil moments like that early on to like the dinner seeing the Benny hana's saying it's just not a well constructed seen. There's no master shine onto technical or anything. But it was I I was climbing a hard time figuring out who was sitting wear and news. I don't want to be doing that. If he was trying to watch it. I didn't really by Luke's hedges character being that much of a dick. I actually that part. Actually that part rang true to me. So. Let's go back to beginning. This is a movie about is setting the mid nineties, obviously has the title. It's about two brothers younger one in an older ones. That was about twelve I guess twelve years old heart attack because he's a little kid and the other one hedges off his older brother eighteen or so they both live at home with their single mother, Catherine Waterson that part actually ranked true to me. I saw like when he gives them CD at at the Benny hana's restaurant, and he doesn't even say, thanks or anything. I got that much of a dick actually that part actually entered. I'm gonna tell you rang true. With me, I have to cousin to grow up in a similar situation with a single mom and the older one, especially just had I had a rage issue. I think it was you know, dad, not being present their dad passed away on his rage. But yet, but was kind of a deck. Real dick. Your little brother actually finds a way to give you a gift. Thanks. He's since become a a lovely person. But I had as a young teenage hormonal, whatever, your you, you can be kind of a Dixon. So this is a coming of age story sunny story about the younger, brother. Yes sunburn is nickname is movie. And it's I believe we're with him every single scene. So it's like one of those restricted narratives, it's a slice alive movie. It was inspired by number of movies, including kids rat catcher. I think four hundred blows he's a number of movies coming of age movies. A group of kids got into trouble. I mean, if boil down to his most basic element is four hundred blow I started off with the nitpicking with not buying that brother because it's just distracting to me. But if you if it worked for you great other than that. I felt like it was a rang true. It felt honest. It felt like it was sincere came from a real place, and it it was a lot like kids without meeting to be gratuitous kids. But it went. Into uncomfortable areas, gone shock value, but go for I rather sit down and watch this one again any day more than I'd rather watch kids again, not the kids kids rings true too. But I'd much rather hang out with these kids and those kids, you know, what? I mean. I I sorta. Yes. Given the choice. Yes. This remit. So I'll be honest romanticize people in lifestyle than I generally do not care for it sending it about seventy percent run tomatoes feels about right? Yeah. I liked this movie those above average. There were some great moments like a handful of kids are grand clunky moments. So there's there's some kids in it. What are the what are the names of the kids shift? Fuck. Yes. Shit FOX great or fuck shit. Fuck shit shit. Fuck shit, look this. It's really though, it's okay. Fuck shit who is black. It goes out of name. Yeah. He was Carl or rob was the other. Ray neighbor something. Our shit. I should have Ray. It's Ray Ray was great. These are all in and the kid that played fuck shit was great these and the lead kid the sunny Soljic Stevie, these are they really chewed senior. They they really were allowed room to you could tell by an actor like the kids, you know, they confident onscreen they weren't amateurish hour and twenty five also appreciate it. And also that he shot at four three aspect ratio was unnecessary. I wrote down fit like a bit of a crutch like he wanted to stand out, and I get like, you know, back in the mid nineties technology wasn't what it is today. Ruben Ruben Ruben was the younger one who brought him in the Hispanic. He's trying to capture that ninety scape via an escape. Video theme goes throughout like, that's a constant. But he he really pays them is to the skate video at the very end of the movie right before the credits without giving anything away. We just see one of their one of the fourth grade is the name of the guy. He's part of the crew. He's always got a camera in his hand and cannot spike Jones character, and we see some of his work at the end. It's all fish islands, which is always like k y two k and all that stuff the four three movies back in the mid nineties. We're not four three TV's. We're all four three back then. So it it felt I video camera which would have been appreciate the choice. It's just not a choice that I think he needed to make. I agree. I I wrote down the exact same thing really take away from movie, but it was distracting the times like. Because I wanted to see more I wanted to see more of the film. Yeah. This is I came away thinking this is a filmmaker with with potential. There's some good moments. You can't fake good moments. Like, they they you know that results from talent original score by residence Ross which point out. I'm interested in joining hills next movie. This one was is fine. It's fun. It's it's it's an enjoyable time to spend with these kids, you genuinely inspired moments. But the kids I liked hanging out. I like their sex scene that is very uncomfortable, and feels very honest and very real without that sexing in there. I think that this movie's maybe kind of void in sidestepping. Some of the reality of growing up you got it's almost like a book that you have a sexy like that. For a coming of age story, and it gets a little muddy waters when you're dealing with an eleven or twelve year old kid. Yeah. He did a tastefully and it worked and it kind of made. It was the best thing I've ever seen by. I don't know. What was that? What's Anderson movie the the moon? Moonlight river, no movement, asking them. Yeah. There's uncomfortable and the Lucas had transactions. Never mind. He has a look at the the impotent rage of teenage youth. Definitely rang true ranked you for me. But I also saw with a bunch of stone who thought everything was funny. Not everyone was laughing. Appropriate. Like, not funny kind of score me barts. And he was he was really effective in making you score Matthew times in your seat. But not to the point that like Larry Clark and harm did with kids. So I like this one also the the delicate balance he landed between so the group of kids could have been just, miscreants, and assholes and pranksters or that could have been like or theme could have been another really good kids. Deep down there in the middle as characters some of the some characters that are in those because I grew up with a crew very similar to that. And I was all the time. And I was hanging out with those people all the time, and you know, some of them are in jail now are dead and some of them, you know, went on to be successful businessman, and he kind of covers that like, you know, people the kids that are going too far that way not going to be able to recover. The Ray kid who is what much more wise than I ever there is a car seen. Whereas Ray, I was really afraid. It was going to go down the boys in the hood path at the end it was like Christ going. I'm glad didn't go that way. If you were in escape culture in the nineties, would you appreciate smooth more. I'll bet you pick up on things more. I mean, I I was in the skate culture in the mid nineties for sure and still moving in spite of the of the skating theme and characters normally close minded and bigoted, Brian, maybe. Oh, I didn't. I didn't grow up in this culture and learning new things now, you know, exactly what I was about to say down, I'm learning. But no, I don't think I don't think it hurts it, I don't I don't think you're going to be missing out on stuff by any means. No, they're they're talking about skateboards that I wasn't even Miller with and like when he's all excited about getting bored. I that's not a brand that I was with that great moment that also rang true with you know, where the Ruben kid was passed over. You know what I mean? Yes, Reuben was like the young, and yeah, he was a used the revolving door. Because he kind of goes out as Stevie comes in. And there's that. A little bit. Yeah. And there's a whole. What is it? Arrival. You should you should worship me. But he's like dude he was basically trying to get the because he looked up to everybody. And he's like he saw a shift possibility we're giving away too much of the story the story simple. And sweet. And it's one of the best simple movies. You're gonna see it's a very simple. It doesn't try and get be something not. There's no plot. I mean, I heard you saying that number times while I was watching this is in a story coming of age it's life plot. Oh, that's not a criticism fish tank. We did tough. I moving the plot. That's not necessarily criticism fish tank tank. The coming of age plot Lewis slice life hose, a character. Like fuck shit. Yeah. Anyway. So I like this. I like to be nice fuck shit. Will this be heard Willis be my top ten new year? I really don't think. So. But you know, I've only it's only been a couple of now it's only a couple of days I've seen it. And this might be one that grows on me. I don't think it will. But it might be better soundtrack for it to Rome to be honest. I mean, like the music for the area if it had more. I mean, he had like he was the first one ever. Use nirvana plugged. I heard him tall talking about on stern. I wanna get rights to that. And as you mentioned, the the Atticus and try residents score, which was big. But I would have liked that bad brains in there. But I wasn't what hip hop of the area to a lot of felt like maybe I'm just looking for something to bitch about I like them in ninety s is I got three stars out of five. I wouldn't expect Ryan I did like it. It's about average. I saw movie like better. But if you only have to Thessaly like see I'm afraid that I had no because you have to go now. This went okay. If you got three then go, I only have two. I can do better. I'll do the anchor what the with game change made for TV listeners. Don't what I signed. You know, they don't Brian sign me game change the made for TV movie time HBO twenty twelve release to your to your TV said got released TV go head brand. Would you say what are you shocked that I didn't see Mr. bean I saw Johnny English man of the century. What's it called Johnny or something? You saw can you ever? Forgive me. Can why? I haven't seen this ninety nine percent run tomatoes. And I liked it quite a bit. We talked about it last week. And I said I feel like I've seen it because I've seen the trailer ten times. It's very good. Okay. And fact, I thought I had seen. I went into it thinking the exact same thing. I've seen the trailer happened to be running for a long the entire six times. They do it the whole store it L heal plot monop- story here. Here's where I'm going with this story and Marielle Heller starring Melissa McCarthy as Lee Israel, and I'll real life writer, you know, her from identity theft. Israel, Richard E grant great character recognize right away, Dolly webmail night and Jane curtain is also in curtains in there. So a real life author named Lee Israel, e Israel's kind of well, she writes biographies and her books aren't set in the world on fire. In fact, I've been getting progressively. And she can't get she's now she says she's selling old books bookstores for a few bucks try and make a rant. She's three months behind the rand. And she. She has a letter framed on her wall from Katherine Hepburn because he biography of Katharine Hepburn and wrote her a handwritten letter, and she had a friend on her wall and desperate time. She goes to sell it to a collector like bookstore, you know, memorabilia collector type, and this is a great will seventy five bucks four hundred. Wow. That's what seventy eighty nine hundred ninety one off pas five bucks. Your life. Her rent was I think maybe a couple hundred month or she lives in shitty place in Manhattan. Way before Giuliani. And that's that's before you can live in shitty place uptown down there in the ninety. So I don't know what it caused. That's that's that's the math. I was doing anyway. So she's researching a book on how well. On some she's pitching a book on some vaudeville star. Right. And. Of course, no one's interested. And she's said the library researching for this book and actually looking through an old old book on this person a letter pops out, and it's a letter from the person seeing the truth, and she goes, and he's like, oh, can I sell this and the collectors like, oh, it's interesting. But it's just honestly, it's just kind of doll. All right. It was Jason home and drinking one night. She stroz her typewriter and puts PS symptom possessed like to hang hangover or something. And she has to another collector. And they're like, oh, this is this is hilarious. I'll give you three hundred bucks for it. Or whatever it is. And appoint she starts step. You know, she gets an idea and. This. So that's the plot. Right. That's the structure of the movie, and obviously the FBI gets involved in forgery and everything law, the heart of the movie, and here's why I loved it her friendships, she's a lesbian, and she strikes a friendship with a gay, man. Richard E grant British actor you'll recognize from Logan Whitney Elena L. And I. She struck up a friendship with him and their odd. Couple friendship, antastic bitter. It's fantastic. A couple of it was kind of like a more lighthearted barfly. It was kind of been nycacc. Boy like it was these two oddly. Okay. So they are individually in their own way antisocial sociopaths. But they don't want to be around the people. Mike other people that work together like drink to drink alone. Drink together this form this bizarre. Friendship. It really worked. I think you're gonna like it would be a lot sounds like it. I'm happy to hear these this report. And I had the exact same thought as you going into. All right. I know where this is going to tell you what this looks like a Hollywood Darlene like an awards bait movie. And I'm probably gonna end up seeing I'm gonna like it. And then I've seen exact same time cents. Now. I would be surprised McCarthy didn't get nominated for an awesome. She was she's in every frame of this movie, almost she she seeing do this rather than wacky zany. No. Obviously, it's not that. It's McCarthy she acts like acts. I was just worried about the campaign gome so far back. I mean, it's it's come back. Don't even think they started showing trailers. I feel like I've seen him a long time. If you love unforgettable and sharply drawn characters this is free. This is almost this who loves those. But this, but but this movie is not for everyone. Like, it might be a little too slow. It might be quiet. A lot of talking. I love the dialogue. But the might be too much for certain people, but I feel like our audience would gravitate towards this. It's not gonna knock your socks off. And it's going to wrap it arms around you care about these these two unlikeable heretics fortunate as I'm gonna like it a little bit let because I like it because of this whole exchange. We're sorry about that. I hate it on that petty petty. I it's involuntary helping it was a lovely surprise for me. I expected maybe it'll be interesting story like I felt like going into it. Like, I felt like big is or as I know. I know I understand he she's the artist, and then he comes in and above LA, you know, where it's gonna unfold, and this is the big ice had great characters throughout. Very good. Anyway, can you ever forgive me isn't there now all right to the meat and potatoes? Bryant assign mean is infinite wisdom, speaking female performances called game change in twenty twelve. This is the story of governor Sarah Palin of Alaska, she becomes Senator John McCain's running mate at the two thousand eight presidential election directed by Jay Roach. Parents unforgettable movies such as meet the faulkners Austin, powers Goldmember mystery, Alaska, she's good move. And trombone all those movie. Austin powers are meet the parents some as finer films. Meet the fuckers parents meet the Falker mentioning because they all of us a thread forgettable. Very made for TV soft around the edges feeling not not real cinema. I really sound this more for the performance. Julianne? Moore turned into a tremendous performance. I saw side-by-side thing on H B O was amazing real Sarah Palin and Juliette this movie stars Julianne Moore. She's in she plays Sarah Palin. Woody Harrelson and Harris plays. John McCain Woody Harrelson place Steve Schmidt whose campaign manager. I guess. This is. It opens up with him and talking about John McCain as a friend on the phone, and he John McCain sucks him back in. He's a he's avarice ranch or something Woody Harrelson. He's out of the game. I guess he's the one who wrote this, and it's his story. And it's from his point of view Harrelson character like Brian said. Julianne Moore who we all know, she's very talented, and it was kind of kind of shame to see her giving her all and doing such a phenomenal job for this made for TV movie. Which is you know, I'm sure back in two thousand twelve golden garnered or Golden Globes and whatnot. But if she was you know, if this is an actual, you know, releasing teeter. Did she would have probably gotten the nomination over maybe even one I remember it was what he Harrelson every time you on the screen. But that's okay. Because he was playing a character. I wasn't familiar with. I knew at Harris was doing a wacky version of now. Wacky. But it wasn't really like he wasn't melting into the character. He didn't meld into John McCain never once that. I forget that. I was looking at John McCain. I forgot from the almost a moment. She came on screen forgot, it was really more. It was just Sarah Palin. She really so fucking good. He won an EMMY and a Golden Globe. So the Screen Actors Guild award this movie, it's it's very it's very straightforward and choice award. It's very scary. I think it is timely. I was giving ship, but I think it is kind of timely because of where we are now with with midterms coming up and how they were just desperate to to beat Obama. And they realized they had to get a woman in there and to see the thought process behind it. How how accurate it is? I don't know after imagine. There is some jump truth to it. It's scary shit. And to see the behind the scenes of the monster that they created if there is true stew, it that's also horrifying because those one of those like look at the monster, you created and Sarah Palin became a monster. And this film is not kind her at all and. I always thought of her. I've always had my thoughts about her. You know, she was unqualified and she. I kind of liked the whole, you know, woman of the people she, you know, she's kind of a common folk and all of a sudden, she's hockey mom, but they didn't go that route. I mean, they showed how little she knew. And they showed how big she got in the head area, and it was ugly. It was ugly and scary away like parallels. A lot of reality stars of the time. Like, the governor of Alaska is not obscure. But you know, what I mean plucked from a relatively national platform. Got to that was that was a discussion about Joe Lieberman. He wanted McCain wanna Joe Lieberman. They go really oh McCain McCain comes out of hero and this despite being very minor character in this. I'm gonna call him Steve Schmidt and more scared. Yeah. It's definitely it's definitely Schmidt. And it was good. If you have HBO go, and you got nothing else to do with your life. You see every movie out right now. Put it on a ringing door goes down, pretty smooth. Yeah. It goes down is worth seeing. It's. Never board. It was in. You know, exactly who actually you don't. I I was actually found myself rooting for her. And I wanted her to make better decisions. I wanted her to be less. Hateful. And I don't know. I don't know how hard they were on her. And maybe he has a vindictive edition against it. In the movie they bought heads quite a bit. You know, he's he's very traditional. I remember the scene with the concession speech. Remember is like John McCain's going to go out and give the how about I give onto is like, I literally never been done this. This is a sacred moment in political, you know. In our in our politics. So the book is written by a guy named John Holloman? Okay. So what not import? Here's the thing. When it comes to. I wish you would have more relevant movies. Well, I have one coming up about the last election to it's called even more game. Change game changing came change. And how came changed? Okay. Let's go come up next. We will go over the top five hotels places. We would would not like to stay. Of question for Logan, red dead, redemption came out as we did you get it. It's so good. Have you played? I've been playing it all we get. About the work environment, though, where it was created. What was I mean? Apparently, there's some there's some issue. Oh, yeah. That's all I hear about on the news. That's all I wanna talk. Hey, doing really, well people are apparently there's a lot of harassment in the boycotting this game is not the answer. 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Didn't skip people get excited. Skipping. People are buying as much. No, I had trouble. I I got excited and read fast. You didn't interrupt enough? Yeah. I need to interrupt. The last three people that's three kind of three one two three got incredible too. One person got the bride of Frankenstein. Somebody got film the film films. What workers on my top ten this year? So for right now. In my top ten right now. Yeah. May say, yeah, it's a firsthand account of Stanley Kubrick, the Cooper's right hand, man and assistant, essentially. Oh, so that summer of eighty four it was put through as well. Stepbrothers halloween. The thirty fifth anniversary edition and the big lebowski twentieth. Anniversary gift set, which is insane to me because that means one of the big lebowski came out. How green was fifteen years old? That's the same Basel now that the program. Hey there Michael report here. You're listening to I understand. Well, come back time to go down to five hotels. How many are ones? What Stanford says one would not want to stay interesting question because good and bad works for this list. Yeah. You know me though, like the grime. I'd like to stay at all. On. Yeah. No. I look to see asked have Dade there. Yeah. I would like to stay everywhere. Always hey, real quick to as far as Flook Vashon, all and I forgot to mention it. But I gave fifteen minutes of my life to the first fifteen minutes of apostle. How funny because he said gonna see that. What did I say that I never said we're gonna sit never ever Senate. It's a Gareth Edwards director of raid and raid redemption rate reduction Ray to and this was a more of a horror flavor film. It's made for fuck flex direct to fuck flicks. Which is fine. Even though a whole the dark. Was not fell short fell short. But yeah, I'm very excited about seeing this when I fifteen minutes, I could tell there's a lot going on. It's a little convoluted different vibe for sure then raid and raid, redemption, I will be going back and watching it from the beginning all the way through four next week for sure I probably why don't you think I said, I was never expect interest. No, I did on hold the door a lot of emails from people about what hold the dark, really meant watch all the door. I signed it too. Yeah. I didn't like it getting emails. I'm like what it really meant once again little convoluted convoluted. Yeah. Lots of explanation. Let's not trying to be literary novelist or a masterpiece makers. Right. It rarely works usually leaves people feeling dominate anger create this ask. Create this ask what with their dumb anger. I'm afraid apostle might be going down the same road. Plus, I've met my quota few months ago. I think on films about cults tired of the sex colts. You made a film out of cult. I did that was a short film as a joke jokey film. But so many movies Andy this one something else. I can't remember ever seen watched a mini series of Waco. Yeah. That's another movie. Syria Times Colt. Yeah. And that earlier in the year the series about the about the lady. I don't know TV. What was that one that the wild while while country while country? Yes, thank you. It's been the Europe colts bright, and I'm out on. Now's the time to release culture Coronado. That's right. It's high season ever ever done. Like, I am like enough with the cold, right? You missed the way wave. I ready Toronto. Have you? No, oh, you'll be seen it. Nice. I'm only seen a couple of your shorts won the film festival that went to ruling reduction that'll be showing that. Issue a rules of seed again Pedo instant is Donna CD. Winston don't need to see your such a thought. Hey, go first you have a tie for five number five for me five be. I guess you go it. I want to go last. Very because of its. Copyright infringement. Some might say first of all I can we both agree that the overlook is just kinda like psycho was the number one. It would be. It would be the goat grades of all time joining the overload Kubrick's the shining, the overlook Koto as much of a character in a movie any hotel about moving, right. Deserves to be number one. So essentially, we have a six to ten good. Thank you for being on that. Hotel arnovitz came out this year directed by drew Pearce starring Jodie Foster Sophia bully and Dave Batista day. Batista was pretty good. The hotels, which was this hotel artists. Oh, I remember you talking about this. And I was on my list of also rans for the summer. Pre a whole didn't really hold my interest in. It was pretty farfetched. Remember came and went at a Hollywood e plastic sheen to it. However, the the actual hotel itself was pretty cool. Pretty inspired dilapidated old like art deco doesn't like a haven for criminals, or it was stolen. A lot of people are suggesting that the idea was just, you know, lifted from John wick the continental indeed, which is my five b. Now real quick about hotel artists. It wasn't spire the hotel the set design wasn't spiraled by hotel Alexandra in downtown Los Angeles, which is pretty fucking cool. If you've ever been passed hotel, Alexandra driven past it. It's got a lot of Lor. They built a whole wing that they ended up breaking awesome. Like rooms that are now condos, but there just completely bricked off and sealed for like years for cooled buildings downtown. It was the fanciest hotel in Los Angeles. When it opened in nineteen o six, and it's also hotel, Alexandra, which is what inspired the hotel artists in hotel was also in seven Davis ventures choice for seven the residents of killer. John Doe number. Oh, yeah. So five be the tie. This my real five, I guess, John wick the continental because it was pretty great the facade used for the continental in John wake is actually Domonkos restaurant located Manhattan Bryant really to south Williams. St. Stars network has begun working on TV spin off of John. What do you know? This did not see that working on like pay channel. Because a lot of violence to be called the continental. It's good. It's good. I'll be all about that. Both. Yes. Watching John wick where like, yeah, we both like it. We don't get the total fan Lor over it. But we both agreed that we really wanted more of that. Yes. I actually thought which was good action fund movie really could use more the hotel. I it makes me wonder how bad is other action movies are that I haven't seen because if people are going without which is going to be another another account or readers action movie, but it turned out to be great. It's like really that's all it was actually moving the bar. So anyways, number five be five eighty John weekend hotel arguments number five kind of tie, but it's really just to for the same one. I'm talking about defunding your life, the continental where our Brooks is staying the nice enough hotel the afterlife, of course. Course. And when he's not spending all day in front of. Well, let's say two judges into lawyers watching scenes from his life nineteen Ninety-one defending your life. He is staying at the Continental Hotel and joying all the all the all judgment city has to offer and it's lot. Honestly, the continental tells nice enough. Judge judgment city that sushi restaurant you can eat all you want your judgment city, all the judgment all of that. Judge city has to offer. All all this judgment city highs. Yes. Ties you seen good place? Now, so good God better than defending your life. It's I don't know if it exists without offending carry similar, very similar. But it's really it's a network show back in look. Over the of being on our top five top high concept films suffered this would have been. What a warm hug the funny part calms. The the funny twist comes when midway through the film album Brooks's character giveaway. Twits people need to see she meets. Mel troops character. Julia and edible rich, a little friendship or relationship. They start to flirt and offer a date in judgment city, and he's walking back back home after the date and that gets her hotel. It is not the continental which is very, you know, into standard run of the mill hotel sort of like, you know, four points, if you will kind of obscure, no is it I thought it was kind of a mid range like Radisson, I suppose it's hard to tell because like like DoubleTree used to be like. But now, it's like, okay what the mid range hotel now red roof, bro. Listen in a motel in the name there hotels. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. Ramada? Yeah. Okay. Ramada Radison, I think on net Ramana. Yeah. Rattus is nice. Yeah. Okay. I messed what I meant the RA. Messed me up. He gets heated rocks. Your home to her slice hands Swinton aims. And they got great beds. They're clean. They're nice. But they're run of the mill. Okay. It's the continental walks. He walks. Julia home her place and she staying at the majestic. Magnificent regal luxurious place, and it just kind of parallels. How her journey is very his. She is having a very easy time with her five day Asian is or three day, whatever it hasn't his his nine. And so and the continental tied for number five, I guess, but from the same moving love that movie. Well, that's a great movie. It really is a good move. Bush streaming, but for some you know, what you can do. Instead is a good place because it's that, but it really much more expanded ninety minute version. Do for me. This is also a real hotel right hotel Chelsea incident. Nancy nineteen Eighty-six Sydney during the by Alex Cox. It's a little rough around the edges not my favorite movie, but the hotel Chelsea and the scenes that take place in this hotel of them shooting up laying there and all the room catches fire and not really doing much to actually doing nothing to just kinda stare into the fire as it happens because we're so fucked up she's throw the cigarette. Like on a pilot's rash. And it starts going. The manager says you got fuck adding you can't stay here anymore in this room. I'll put you in room one hundred downstairs, you don't have to get on the elevator. He just go straight to your room all over the hotel. Chelsea is a story. Landmark. Want to hear about the hotel church? Lease research. It is from Wicky. Here's some of the residents, Arthur C Clarke wrote two thousand one. Chelsea I wanna stay in that room and poets Allen Ginsberg, and Gregory Corso chose it as a place for philosophical and artistic change also known as a place where. Hi, Dylan Thomas was staying in room tool five when he died of pneumonia. New monia? They said it was new Monia. Onto other nine nineteen fifty three. I mean, November ninth nineteen fifty three and when Nancy Spurgeon girlfriend of sid vicious of the sex. Pistols was found stabbed death on October twelve hundred seventy eight Arthur Miller wrote a short piece that Chelsea affect describing life at hotel Chelsea in the early nineteen sixty places haven, Brian no longer offer long-term residency from what I understand. You can't stay there long-term. No. But hotel Chelsea's it's still there. You can stay. They're still they're still they're all mine. Number four. Oh, you're done. I thought that I had a information of one was built can't find that. I think it was built in eighteen o late eighteen hundreds eighteen eighty five eighty six it's been there for a while. This is a nice pairing the number four by the by. Because my number four also involves music rock and roll out a real life place or place. You can stay out today. If you want to not in New York, but in LA, the the continental Hyatt house, aka the riot house as per portrayed in almost famous. The riot house known as the canal Hyatt house officially founded in nineteen sixty three as the gene Autry hotel, sold in nineteen sixty seven and renamed the continental height house. This is the scene does on sunset strip on the houses are all little mini suites. Like, you have your kitchen. Well, you know, what this is now is the us. It's what the on does. The does is hotel ause fancies right at the end of CNN. Yeah. It's a very very hotel. This is the seen almost famous. We're looking for me in the same thing as nudie been told by Tim Judd, never use word, no matter has racial connotations to learn that a couple of years ago. I was in the same thing snooty. How'd you learn it just trying to throw everything the wall? And you're what's offensive? Everything mine. On our top five offensive line's list. Up is involved in three and five. This is the scene in the film almost famous where of course, the ban Stillwater, it goes to and sees nothing, but revelry going on with halls of this crazy. Oh tell but young Jay Baer shell cameos as the very enthusiastic Led Zeppelin fan. And he got his t shirt signed by Mr Robert plant, and Mr John Paul Jones. Right. You're doing the hill thing he'd become famous for. Yes. So right house. The high the rental Hite house is very good number three for me. I would absolutely stay here. I don't know if I'd sleep here because I want to trust. What would happen to me? There might be some some poof lung my way. But I'm talking about flea lands in babe pig in the city nineteen ninety eight babe pig in the city. I saw in directed by George Miller, creator Mad Max over there. I love prequel national. I I love babe pig in the city, and it takes an awful beating it just takes video. I think it's like eight percents three on. I it's it's I love the delivery of the animals of their lines. I love the characters themselves. Bob played by Steven Reid is one of my favorites. Thelonious the Aranka Tang. Oh, I love his character pride. I love moving to babe pig in the city. Like, do you settle down with your little bullshit? Enjoyable victorian. Let's Victorian looking structure that is suitable for animals Bryant. So it's monkeys at one point and has every fucking stray dog in town staying in their fleeing babe follows he meets a closed chimpanzee named Bob already talked about Bob, Zuhdi and easy. They're in there as well. As the loneliest already talked about these people in the Mickey Mickey Rooney. He's a clown kidnaps, babe. But one point and. Flee lands the shitty. The whole the whole city is completing total back lot make believe Hollywood done in Australia. Magic right. Oh. So there's a lot of art design here. And I like to stay in that flee lands. What I'm yeah. I wouldn't sleep. The only humid I don't trust. How humans? I'm going to a place actually in December for jillions birthday kind of. I guess it is it's a place all offers the place up in. Northern California, central California where like a seem bungalows and fucking elephants. Come really bungalows elephants combined greet you like soon after you check in so fucking awesome. Pay a little extra and you can like take the elephants you put them to bed. And then you also feed the Tigers and lions that are there. How much does shoot the animals give me a price? Just calling your price where we start at. You're making me I'm starting to writing. And I'm writing my third. Vengeance come up because I come up. Groupers is the first one where like I may. I home affords are victims. They pay they pay to get in the end my next one about skunks who pays their pedophile? So I make them suffer. Yeah. Yeah. They got that come on punishment trilogy. So I punched pedophile. And then my third one, which is the biggest budget costs a lot. But it's a big game hunters. Let's get their punishment title so much that I will not say it until I have the movie fully written. But finally writing to get you. And you sitting there asking how much it would cost to inspire inspire. I think I'm actually. Change. That's making sense. It was a left turn. Text her still hurtful number three. For me. Flee lands number three for me. You mentioned canneries says other action movies, the heart of the city hotel is prominently featured in the matrix, that's where he comes in and out of the matrix. However, the hotel itself, isn't that special a lot of things have been there. But there's nothing about though tell so I will go at the all ready mentioned the continental. But my actually I actually at this down minus from Joel Mick too because that's the one they really really get into the more time, they're coins. Yes. That's the coin de find a lot more than the folly of the coins. Yes. This is actually so no no official business. What unquote what happens at the hotel in my I just doing everyone seen John wick so. Yeah. John j-o-h-n makutu. There's a lot more than significance of the continental Jona mic to as I recall no-man's-land. It's it's it's a complete beef not allowed to act on it in. Everyone's like put the weapons down on the shell. It's a complete demilitarized zone. Total neutral territory. No guys about. Say no official businesses allowed on site. If you have a contract out on one of the other killers, or anyone you can't carry wonder if you're allowed to secure contracts or Laking plan, killing I think any yes, lots of lots of discussions. Lots of discussion is used can't carry out here. So house of this. That's exactly no phones. That's exactly right. Oh sometime. We we've got over this on the show like a month or two ago that exclusive members only lighting over the phone and lounge area north in phones are I don't know. Oh was there. Haya has set one of the right house. Okay. I thought you it's like the SoHo I'd never mind that it's like. Geek out over celebrities there. Yeah. Oh, I saw a celebrity today right now. Trying to be very dumb with your number two. I'm not trying to be very cool about it. You tell me it. Right. I was at you know, where I was Anderson bay tension where I was we'll never you're at work. I wouldn't be interesting at work. I was the apple pan classic LA eatery, and they have one very very casual. Yes. And as and it's only cash you have to pay at the old time. You register and I'm paying I'm Paul whipping out women out, you know, green doing well. And I look over to my left who said in there. She John Lithgow. I saw him at the. I saw him at the that wasn't really what it was at a restaurant that I lived by. But it's because they're shooting an episode extra time. So there are no cameras here set there were no cameras. I just put my hand on his knee. I sit night into that. I was very cool because he he he was you did you approach. I was standing next to close to do. All I did was just put a handout, I didn't talk him and said, by the way, sir big fan of your work big fan. And he said give me a nods. Thank you. When I walked up. Big fan of his work is supposed to run out yell hair in as making the noise. All right. Ryan Bill bill's employers could be very upset with us. It's not like no him now. All right. We're done with friends break and come back with our number two one coming next. We'll come back with the top two hotels. Anderson. Good week for me and the podcast one sports net dot com bed online dot AG. Yeah. I went five for five and my picks. This is you really did and action ranking. 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But you get to choose this one. If you like or are you gonna swallow it? It's just like Viagra or Cialis can pick which one you like way, which you can experiment with either. Or and you don't have to even have the old ED over there to to get it. I have no AD. I've used the blue. Oh, yes, fun recreational. I wanna call recreational but helps you laugh Joe. Spices things up a little bit things might be a little more. Without giving anything away. I'm not going to go any further. But they say what you mean same active ingredients as by Cialis. So they weren't, hey, if you're in college and got a roommate maybe you guys could have like a contest do notice that they can get to both the same time, which one gets affected. I better yet. Try to not get affected. No, hands try to not you can you can take them anytime day or night, even on a full stomach, which I guess wasn't issue with the other bills and their fraction of the price. 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It's weird. Do the world's constantly changing. So is this company which you probably have never had to deal with. But it's called without a box, which was the way that all filmmakers, whether they made features shorts documentaries would submit to festivals. And I just got an Email from them. They're going away. How's that been around for providing a service relays attacking hacking them for about a year and a half? Now, maybe longer actually. And they make no qualms about it. He's come out and talk about how horrible their competition. Somebody uh streaming on Amazon prime. It's very good on the other hand, though, I read an article that the library. Congress is going to be releasing a bunch of free movies that you can just download and watch for like historical classic films like where the the copyrights probably run out fair the library of congress does select films as historically relevant, and that's kind of a big list. So if they they did say that the film's goes late as nineteen ninety nine. Oh. I wonder what they're gonna. Being the taste makers over that speaking. It's interesting been gone for a longtime heard recently just on a little soundbite. I don't I don't know. I didn't look any more into it than this. But apparently, rotten tomatoes like, yeah. You know, what enough with the with the stuffy snobby old-timey print critics. We're opening up. And apparently, they added two hundred podcasters your this. Why why did we get a phone call? How do we not gonna phone call? They're opening up to two hundred fucking film dot casters. And we didn't get a phone call or fucking. We we really should have been. I check my junk my spam. Folder. That's weird. You know, the guy over there. I used to actually gone fired. No, he butts fandango, I'm not I'm not trying to say like, we're giant or anything. But we are definitely within the top hundred hundred John with please top ten of the film podcast. If it was only one hundred didn't get a call. I'd be a little upset, but two hundred outrage that could be wrong on the number. But they it up to an might biggest three hundred. You know what I mean? So, you know, that's interesting. I wonder if actually rank like with entertain. Film film podcast like we're we're up there Sigmund for rotten tomatoes. We do we do. Metacritic? So I'm like it hot nineteen fifty. What were you about to say, Brian? We're actually was the editor and chief around us, and he wants explained to me that they only this is obviously. Day only took only they only accepted critics who had written reviews, and they had to have a number of three hundred thousand followers. I looked onto it one time because I was curious like who these fucking taste makers work some of them. I don't agree with at all. And I and I looked it up. There's quite a bit criteria. Like, you have to write a number of reviews to before published like something crazy like five thousand reviews, pretty good criteria. Pretty good number two for me at could be wrong. All those numbers. So number two for me hotel del Coronado from some like it hot. If you've ever visited the hotel del Coronado. Fantastic hotel, host conference of beautiful for friends of Italian opera. If you haven't seen the movie backup like a bay. Yeah. The beach is right there. It's supposed to take place in Florida in some like it hot which you're gonna enjoy very much like number fourteen on the F listening. So you'll get. A little info on the hotel del Coronado, which is right outside of San Diego's not part of San Diego proper. It's part of Coronado, but eighteen eighty eight was when it was built, and when they're looking for a place to shoot this. They they look for the hotel. They found this while was very excited because I had to look for and why but this is the only place we could find that hadn't changed in thirty years because during the wars stuff like they didn't put much money into. Let me see what else. What else? What else? It's one of the few surviving examples of American architectures genre the wooden Victorian beach resort. Really? How sweet is that is still to this day because there is a very unique. Look, it is a considerate Victorian beach resort of the second. It is the second largest wooden structure in the United States after the Tillamook air museum until Tillamook Oregon. No kidding. Tillamook cheese when it opened in eighteen eighty eight it was the largest resort hotel in the world. If you ever are in San Diego area, doing the zoo and legal land, and whatever else you do. On this whole delta, don't take take like a half day trip. And do check it out. It's historic. They don't stay there on a whim because they'll charge the same amount to stay in the actual hotel. And they have wings, which are very boring and nondescript that, they've added on later, and they rip people off all the time. That's what they were doing. But it's definitely worth a lunch. Like Brian side. Walk the halls. They got a lot of cool shops and stuff in there and watch some like, Hoppy for it's a really really fun movie. It goes down smooth is I love that. So I'm like, I'll check it out. So I'm like, not you're like. Number two. I don't know hundred percent for sure if this hotel is named in the movie, and my notes, I have as the vintage casino talking about blade runner twenty forty nine or you love this place. I love it so much. I love it so much. It's for set in the year. Twenty forty nine dropped Beltsville. New features hologram performances by Elvis Presley and the aforementioned Marilyn Monroe, presumably others. This is a an established hotel stuck in the fifties. So well, well, yes, I think it's restored like you said about the other the other place, it's not renovated. It's restored. Because in the movie, I think it was twenty twenty two or so when Las Vegas became uninhabitable because of nuclear fallout, and so of course, decker lives there because Republican, but no one else can live there completely isolated Ryan Gosling trucks them down, but he's living in this old dilapidated hotel and wasteland of was Las Vegas, and it is a very Irie placing imagine that in the year twenty twenty or so it was a very interesting retro hotel where they showed hologram performances by the aforementioned from the food or probably maybe presumably Frank Sinatra ratpac, probably should have have cyber pu-. Person we had never heard of for the future. That's also now be kind of cool Justin Bieber, but like, you know. Future sputnik? Birla they probably would but Nichols from the future. But couldn't it confined name for it. And I'll have I written down as the vintage casino. But it might have just been described as vintage casino your the way. My number two lot of sand. Too much San AER sandstorm inspired by a real sandstorm. That Denis Villeneuve was in. Okay. This sand storm and the movie was his buyer, but actual sandstorm that occurred. Director had to set it. There was in the race. Psycho was actually inspired by an actual storm that occurred the rain blatant blade runner was actual raindrop number one for me. I almost no shit. This is why this is number one for me, Brian. I came very close to living in a renovated studio apartment in downtown Long Beach, when I went to film school out there because of this movie because of the hotel in this movie, and I would have if parking was not an issue I scouted when I got off line, and I went home. So I wasn't getting home one for Terry. No parking. So I'm like, I can't do it as much as I wanna live in something that feels like the hotel Earle from Barton hotel Earl Barton Fink and there's nothing to like about this. It's a horrible. You don't wanna be a hotel. Visit man it's like the the wall paper is so hot in the wallpapers actually healing highly off and just small boxing claustrophobic. It's an art deco style. And. All the shit, but something romantic about it perfect set in for for the writer, especially the Barton Fink writer who was he was out of water as well John tour. I love this Barton Fink so much. Thinks room the actual room where we're in all the hallways were John Goodman, exposes himself who really is one point eight a great movie, and I hope I didn't even say too much right there, a really fun movie. Jero plays this. It's my top three Coen. Brothers movies all time author like Jit writer who comes out to Hollywood and the glory days, and they fly him out there. And they hold them up in this town. They have them, right? Pound out. Crabby script about wrestlers wrestlers. Franks room. So his room. He's like little studio apartment or a hotel room sets all made in a back lot. And they're gonna Bill sets, but the lobby. Was shot at the Wilton theater here in LA gonna that the Wilton was Carrillo was one of the name, and rightfully so it's it's at the corner of Wilshire and western and they call it the Wilton is that right? We'll call it the Wilton because it's half of those each of those names at the streets that cross a concert venue. Consciousness. So of us Wayne there couple times. So Billy idol there. Libation took over last. I was there and they had a real VIP over used to kind of for all. L E there. I don't care what it was a movie theater was built as a movie theater, and they back in the heyday, lots of beautiful art deco style. Nineteen fifties looking lobby the afford, very old timey that's closest weekend. We as commoners who don't have the budget to have somebody actually build a go Earl for us. We can go visit the wilburns lobby open. And yeah, I found a building Faulk copper arms building. I think it was called goes call the copper arms. I was obsessed. So romantically in love with this shitty. Shitty. I think they might have been apartments at one point five hundred square feet studio, a little kitchenette and the views of the mountains, but it was like so smoggy long shit and Long Beach yet, but it was up thirtieth floor the fifteenth floor and that she had shops down below which was unheard of back. Oh, I want mixed use building. I wanted to stay there. Now, everything that they build as makes us. That's right. I willing one down the street from me, I always wanted to live in one of those whether the restaurant bustling below them, but sticking it, smells, like, you know. That's what my number one is very similar. It is Ninety-one 's the great muppet caper. Talking, of course, about the happiness hotel from the great mepu- caper. This is Jim Henson's featured directing debut Anderson, you're avoiding contact you. In my mind at all. So I don't know how well you remember the plot of the great Bubba caver while enough. Okay. Well, refresh refreshed. Oh. Caper him up. It's a revolt Kermit and Fosse bear. It's not that funny. Your reaction is to me Kermit, the frog in vase e Barron. Play intrepid cub reporters and for a newspaper, and they're actually identical twins and the movie and no one can tell them apart. If Fosse's off his hat on that's a running gag and they're sent to London to investigate. I think to investigate a missing diamond or something anyway, but their budget for the trip Anderson if they're being sent from the US to London the budget twelve dollars so they have to fly and the steerage of the plane down with the luggage because they can't afford seats. And when the fly London someone comes down and simply throws them out the cargo hold along with all the other Muppets and recount, the whole movie skits, the fuck and hotel and they land in London literally land, and they have no money for hotel, obviously. So they won't get that clip reading. So that's how we're looking got those clips reading jeez, plural. Multiple. And so they. They end up. They look for a place in the end up looking at it. Yeah. Fairly dilapidated hotel called the happiness hotel mono come back earlier this year this. I'll wait. I know you are. So they go to Anderson this evening. A medicine. And so they go to the happiness tell. Like, I said, very dated rundown looking place, and they go inside and they wake up the front the front desk. Attendant some smaller cups our talking on our dog. Doc. What you're saying? So the they wake up the fund desk attendant who who's surprised to have a customer, and he explains there's ways to pay cash credit card or sneak out in the middle of the night. And of course, choose a see down the middle of the night, and you'll be happy to know Anderson, very happy. Now today, describe the hotel is described in great detail now through not through dialogue but through song. Logan. Let's you're a little bit about happiness. Oh, tell. Andy. But not to. Or stop don't find bin Lee animals. Learn to stand the smell. So yeah. The animals disgusting, smell and. It's not a place you'd go for vacation with the family. But if you wanted to be surrounded by Muppets, and critters and animals, let's hear a little more about that. No more. Careful. So they get a little blue. But you know, it's it's understandable. It's not it's not a nice place. Let's blue for you want some of I do actually I have the rest of it. Well, no formula taste. While you're pouring that Logan here. A little more about that. Being so tell thank you Brian mcaulay for continue in our beer, drinking, which I just had to do prematurely because I'm just bored. This'll maybe they'll turn around. Beat the front. Any other? That's good stuff. Hey, man, you act to cool for school now. Board dig it. No. He's not I'm going up next on Seattle. I'm planning happiness tell why he doesn't hang out with people like, you know, one was listening number one two. Oh nice. All right three way tie for number five from have the plaza from home, alone two. I don't Trump was there the hotel from four rooms and the hotel from Dunston checks in gun at anyone here this movie, what is done. I don't even know this from my childhood a monkey living in. It's. Or this like monkey kind of scape into this hotel and lives there. Then this kid that lives at the hotel finds them Anderson. I'm blow your mind based on true story. I can't I can't until I'm I'm stuck in this whole 'cause I'm trying to remember the movie that also rose in a sign that I fell in love with an auditor. And yeah, that's the mud river band. The only thing I can get on board with something nightmare band, mud river nightmare band. Number has at hotter. Number four is hotel Earl from Barton Fink. Yeah. Smart. Number three is the grand Budapest hotel, grow sarong answer. Number two is the continental from John wick number one better be happy hasn't everyone hotel over is the overlooked damaged shining. Also rans did happen as a single vote. No, not cut damn. You'd be a great song. You got any? I do. Oh, what the list speaking of old Vegas circus circus from fern loathing. I have no desire to go there now. But back there's a lot of hotels opens up at the believe, it doesn't notice an open up, but there's also scenes at the throughout was the one that I remember that's where that's where the white rabbit seen in the bath. Interesting. Caesar's palace is portrayed in several movies. Rainman the hangover through place those drive onto. They'll the Ben breakfast groundhog day probably the closest to making my list after after my top five. So many were shot at the millennium Biltmore hotel here in Los Angeles. Cop was filmed bellhop, which is a Jerry Lewis movie, which I for some reason quite enjoy. It was a good hotel there. And then here's a fun. Yes. The Juve eho is made up of nine would plank scattered pods scattered throughout the woods and it acted not as a hotel. It is a hotel, but it acted as a. House mansion to a eccentric billionaire. Gina's is in X, and it's called the juvie hotel hotel notes are getting cut off. So but it's like in. Whereas it's NorWeb. We've also like an Oregon or something knows Valle Norway. You got to scale like sheet rock to get here. Gamma Logan bay. I want to go the photo. I would like to also was a pretty sweet locale thought it was fake a lot of that was CGI. I think they might have see some of it. But I guess it was hotel someone's private residence like a very rich person. But. Aren't they last week gambled on Johnny English strikes? Again, I'm not that moving at the time tomatoes score with thirty nine percent Anderson bit forty-three and Brian thirty. So I wanna go so you're closer to begin with. Currently we have to release the score for Johnny English strikes. Again, has dropped to thirty two percent, Bryan. The winner gets thirty three. I'm gonna do huge favor. Can you ever forgive me? Han you ever forgive me? You're gonna love it. But then I gotta flip next week. We've already done that people. There are people there. Strange people in this world to trust your opinion, more than me. So you'll be able to tell them. What do we gambling on this week? You're gambling unbe heen rhapsody. Yeah. I know things about this. I've heard things I've heard thanks. But also the last so Karol let it slip. What the score was. But that was also that was also last week if we know this us week. What was he says in the fifties? Yeah. It's all I heard too close. Okay. Six. It was weird move for you. Do you want? Boy erased or the nutcracker boy raised and what's wrong. Morgan freeman. And boy raced with Joel Egger tin. I know what that is directed. Just try and turn the kid gang or not. On gay and the other one is the one Morgan Freeman where they're doing some sort of fantastical thing Arnie up shit. So it's one of those Disney phantoms goes go. What do you want a boy? Oh god. I. Come on, buddy. What are this? On both both ninety nine eighty seven. Okay. Certainly. Certainly. The week before it's released. Us runs me. Boy erased is eighty four percents shit. Nice. That's okay. Guess what? Seventy seventy wait. What did? I guess. What? Did I write eighty seven? Sorry. Have got tired on tear sits back sit never left. I saw the penguins or running some lovely tribute patches to the victims of the shooting. Anyone affected by that? Or anyone Jewish who feels threatened by that hearts, go out to you. And indeed. It's just such a weird twist that it seems like every fucking week. It's like we're going to be careful not to say that because you know, this thing just happened. And it's just goddamn shitty. That's leibel. Sorry, guys. Escape state one of these hotels somebody's you can't stay at hotel del Coronado. You can stay at that lighthouse, which is now the hotel Chelsea, hey, if you're nuts. For vacation in LA, the sunset strip like he wanted to the Hollywood thing. The on does a lot worse. Okay. Do you have the notes Logan? I'm sorry. I wasn't in. No. Oh, I didn't even read off the. Art. Thanks to whoever slogans fired random people here because of the very important. I hope they can't tarantula job. Before done big duty ru van name machete and August premier thanks guys for music, if you'd like to be a featured artist, and you're not signed to anyone who will I be upset with us for plane, you if you are buck the system fairly nine one of the top. It's absurd. Isn't it? That is so absurd. I don't think arch owner Phil we were we were Telea when do you when you look at entertainment section if you take out I wanna get into it braggadocious. But I mean, it's just absurd. Like, I said I heard this won't traffic getting off the freeway. Swerving to avoid something. The funny thing is going on my mind, if if it came down from run vet is like, oh, we need in order to get reviews. We needed redden. I'd be like, yeah. For sure. Transcript popular listener from Marci this week. Look at that. Oh, good last hole for Logan. Thank you for that. Pretty good. Yeah. Not bad. Who's the listener? Thanks. 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Water Cooler: Fyre Festival, Climax, Police Story 2, Battle Angel: Alita, Beale Street, Titan Games, Kavalier & Clay, Sparrow Creek

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Water Cooler: Fyre Festival, Climax, Police Story 2, Battle Angel: Alita, Beale Street, Titan Games, Kavalier & Clay, Sparrow Creek

"Hello, everyone and welcome to slash on daily for Monday, January twenty first two thousand nineteen until its ups owed where it'd be discussing what we'd been up to at the watercooler the slash home editor in chief Peterson rutta interning that to his podcast managing editor. Jacob paul. Hello. Hello weekend. Editor Brad omen. Hey, that's me senior editor Ben Pearson. Hey, what's happening in writers? Quadra buoy AMI one Chris Evangelista? How's it going? I'm trying to. I think he did that last week, right? I said something I'm going to try a new one every episode see which one sticks. I think that's run out quickly. No. It's funny every time Chrissy Howdy next. In that duty newly Louis. Good accident of his or whatever. Yeah. East coast accent of yours saying Howdy. What what is the accent? It's not New England. I am from Philadelphia. I guess it's affiliate accent. You know before we get started. We should say that this is an exciting week for slash foam. We have three of writers are getting ready to head out to Park City Utah for Sundance. And that includes Chris Brad, and Ben are you guys ready? No, I have never felt more unready for something in my life. So that'll be fun. I mean, I'm in Utah. So I'm kind of ready got one foot in. Yeah. Yeah. We'll be doing an episode later this week before you guys actually get on the plane or before Chris and Ben gown the plane previewing the films of this year Sundance, and hopefully, we'll get you guys on from Park City to tell us what you think of you know, movies and won't be after the festival be doing. You know, our typical you know, best of the fest episode as well. So you'll get all the info, I'm like, you know, the the films you should have on your radar that you probably don't know about in this coming week. But before then let's talk about what we've been doing this week prior. Let's start out with what we've been doing it. It's been rainy here in Los Angeles. So I haven't been doing a lot like it's an like last week. It was pouring like almost every single day, which in LA means that people don't forget how to drive, and it's you know. An hour to get anywhere this weekend. I took in improv comedy class which to surprise of Brad. Who's surprised to hear doing that? I'm not. Interested in being an actor or comedian or I don't really wanna get into improv. My my my curiosity for taking this class was purely in the fact that I'm you know, trying to up my mic game as a magician in a lot of magicians script their magic in a way that if the audience. Interacts in any way, that is not planned it kind of throws you off your script. And it makes you look like idiot. And I feel like the best magicians are the ones that are actually able to interact and make it a conversation rather than a performance, and it also in the best way as possible. Like Brad does. I know Brad, you you have some improv comedy background like are able to take something that happens, and, you know, come back to it in a funny way later on. So I was thinking that taking improv comedy class would give me some techniques in how to better do this. I was wrong. Failure. No wasn't a failure. It was a lot of fun. I had a lot of fun, and I was doing with a couple of other magician friends of mine. So it was great to be doing with people. I knew I it's not making an asset myself in front of strangers in the games were a lot of fun. I was just hoping that I think what I was hoping for was that it would be more techniques that would. Trying to think of a way to say this. I wanna say shortcuts, but wake you know. Like the whole. Yes. And like, I thought it would be more like kind of like, oh, here's some tips to how to, you know, get things, you know, in a groove more. Like, you know, here's how you can think about call backs better. And here's how whatever, and I it's really, you know. Just like, listen better. Like, yeah. I know that. But there were some things I think I did learn I did learn a lot about posture and how how can completely change a performance the sounds obvious. But I I learned learned a bunch of stuff that there was actually the interesting game. They think it was called last letter. First letter, have you ever done this bread? I I mean, I don't think so but describe it maybe I have just under different name. You just have a conversation with someone else in the group, and they would have to start their sentence with the. With a word starting with the last letter of the word you used in your sentence. Okay. So what that would do would cause you not to be able to plan whatsoever for the next line? You would have to be completely in the moment. Because. You know, if I brought if I asked you what you had for breakfast. You would have to answer with something starting with t did. I mean. Yeah. So that would be totally change your anyways. I'm going to long on this. It was it was a lot of fun. I might take another class just for the fun of it. I mean, if anything you should simply because this isn't something that you're gonna learn in a day. Like, it's something that you need to practice and like keep doing and like get more comfortable with with that that aspect of it yet. I feel like. I don't know. I feel like I was hoping for something that would be more. I could see the connection of how it could be implemented in a lot of the the things in improv. I don't I think are actually thinks you can actually implement into magic performance. Like, if someone asks you, you know, you know, you're you have a deck of cards there. And they're like are those carts from India? I mean, I guess I could. Yes. Gan that and whatever and that could be funny, but I don't feel like that's the that's easily implementable. I really I think what is for you with this with this should be as more of an exercise of like just kind of like, loosening your mind and not being. So I dunno firm, and what's the word? I'm looking for I guess stiff onstage, and like being a little more relaxed. Like, yeah, just like, you know, be able to tap into just like an open thinking process where you can respond with something that isn't necessarily immediately related to what you were doing. And still keep your flow going with your tricks and stuff. Yeah. That's exactly what I did take away from this. And like the whole second circle mentality. I I we'll see if I'll I'll do it again. I it. It was a lot of fun. And I did go to the magic castle a couple times this week. I as you know, I've been trying to put together this last year a magic act, and I feel like I've been doing more talking about it and trying to. I wanted to be perfect guys. I want you know, I see a lot of act magic axe veggie castle. This. No, no. You know, I'm not putting down anybody. But it's a lot of things like, you know, it's just a trick followed by trick fall by tricking. I really want this to have a structure in have a story. And I think that's why I, you know, I come from the world of, you know, our our world of writing in movies and TV and I think I am I'm just putting too much thought to this. And I talked to some magicians at the magic castle this past week adults like sit down with them. They basically just told me that I'm grinding mcgeer too much, and I should just get down there. And what they call the basement, which is the magic castle where they have impromptu rooms where you can perform for audiences. They just think I should just do it just like get a bunch of tricks together do it and just start getting experience because I'm gonna learn more from that than. You know? Yeah. Because when you do it you'll you'll see what works, and what doesn't in front of a crowd and see like what needs to be reworked in that kind of thing. Because that's that's something that you that, you know, comedians do all the time. They're trying new material seeing what works, you know, tightening up jokes in that kind of thing. And I'm sure you have to do the same thing with you know, medic of yet. I I can see how you could get so stuck into. I mean, I have gotten so stuck in development with this. So I I think I'm just going to do that. So this week I'm going to put together an act and just go down there and throw myself civil and do it. I totally do that. I just I want to be proud of my act. I feel like just putting stuff together I won't be proud of it. But I think I will benefit more like you said from just getting the work on it and getting experience. Brad, you're in Utah. What what are you doing there? So I came out here a little bit early before Sundance because my girlfriend's sister is getting married and the wedding tend to be the weekend before Sundance started. So I came out here. A lot of ahead before my girlfriend is from Zimbabwe. But she's been living in Utah for ten years, and she has other family here. Several sisters and aunts and uncles and cousins, but some of the family who still lives in Zimbabwe, obviously came in for the wedding. So I'm meeting her her parents and other relatives who don't live here and all that sort of thing. So it's been a big busy affair, which also included all these this errands pretty much since the day. I got here running errands nonstop setting up for the wedding sitting up for the reception. And this was this was kind of a new bridge as far as wedding for me because my girlfriend most for family are Mormon and so when it comes to Mormon weddings, when if you get married in the temple not everybody is necessarily. Allowed in the temple. So for the wedding part of it. You're actually waiting outside of the temple for them to come out. And then you take the pictures in the end that kind of thing, and then after that, we had just a regular exception, but all the setup for that took a few hours all the setting up of flowers and dishes and decorations and all that stuff. So was a long exhausting day. But it was really really fun. The reception was a blast. You know? Meet her family was really cool. And yeah, it's it's just been it's been a busy exhausting week. But thankfully, I feel pretty recovered from the the weekend now. And now just looking forward to getting lost it again for Sundance and a part of my experience during the wedding too was something that wasn't expecting. But my girlfriend kind of convinced me and potent Prada me to do was I got a pedicure for the first time, which, you know, the the more the more masculine side of me is like it's not really something guys do very often. But you know, what after I did it. I'm kind of a fan, and it's. Something that I it's actually something that I've probably need it for a while not to get too like grocer than they bad. But like, everyone pedicures your feet, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And so I get you gross. But like I've had dry skin on my feet before. And that kind of thing. And sometimes like everyone knows like there's like the stones. Did you can use to scrape it off and stuff like that? And and I don't necessarily like give my feet, you know, TLC where I'm like giving, you know, very meticulously clipping my finger nail beds or anything like that. And so this was a nice thing. It was like a full thing where like they even like put lotion on your feet, and like they did like stone warm stone like scrub on my legs and stuff, and it was really nice. And so I feel like every now, and then I might take advantage of this and like go get a pedicure because it was actually really relaxing nice. You know, one of the magic books. I read says that I should go. I do close up magic. And they suggest that you should go. Get a manicure just to feel what it feels like. Have you know that done? And I've I've resisted that. But Brad, you're I think I mean, even though it was a pedicure you're kind of talking me into this. I have no idea. How manicures I would imagine it the same way because I want to understand they do a similar thing where they like do lotion, and like treat your hands and like do like a massage and a and a rub and stuff like that. So yeah, it could very well be worth. It have any of the other men on this podcast gutting pedicures manicures before. No, no, okay. Okay. Then. Yeah. I've only gotten a many many petty. Once actually I'm not huge with many Pettis, but it's really relaxing. I've done massages a lot. But they, you know, the pedicure and a manicure like they do the massages sometimes like oils or lotions, and it's really nice, and it feels very refreshing vertical. Itchy. It have you been up to this week? So I went to the preview event for the alita battle angel passport to iron city experience. So this is an immersive experience as being held in New York LA and Austin, and it's sort of kind of like perch, escape room parts or like theme park experience in which you go into these recreations of settings from the film alita battle angel which is directed by Robert Rodriguez, and you can play like little games and. Others sort of puzzles and challenges to win the most points over other teams. So you're like put into teams other people and immediately you go in and there's like a bar. That's the recreation of the Kansas City bar yet the Kansas bar, and you know, drinks and stuff there. But that right right off the bat, you have to like goes to these tablets, and sort of read more info about what is going to happen. And then you go into the proper marketplace area, and there's like a booth in which there's a scrap yard, and you have to find like the most worth worthies scraps and get the most points or you go to a booth where you smell like these these vials, and you have to guess, the smells those those kind of fun games like that. And it was really cool. The design is was amazing and really meticulous. And they had actors there who really dedicate themselves to the parts of. Of people in distortion future who are living in the steam punk version of the world's. So it was fun. Yeah. This kind of sounds a little bit like the west experience that Jacob did last year south by south west. But with a game more game fide. Yeah. Yeah. Let's definitely game a fight. Oh, and it's opens this week Los Angeles on the twenty third New York on the twenty six and then Austin on the twenty ninth how how can people go to this? See it's a buy tickets, and they can be purchased at the alita experience dot com website, ver- cool. Ben what have you been up to? So last week. I went to an evening with Ludwick goeransson and goeransson is the film composer, you might know his work. He did the scores for TV shows like community and happy endings and new girl and recently did the scores for venom and Black Panther. And Black Panther was sort of. The focus of this particular vent. There was a it was held at the what's the name this place the Annenberg Wallace Annenberg center for the performing arts in Beverly Hills. So it's like a really nice theater venue and Elvis Mitchell from film, independent did like Acuna with the composer. And it was a night that would it was basically like a mixture of a behind the scenes like a feature etes from Black Panther and clips from the movie and stuff that were shown on the screen, and like live performances that he composed in played on the stage in front of us. And he had a lot of his collaborators who worked on creating the score for Black Panther from Africa. He brought them to this event. And they were doing, you know, like a drum performances and stuff like that. There was one thing that was in in particular really stood out to me they had a couple of talking drum which is a an instrument that I've never heard of. But it's like a specific type of drum where you can manipulate the pitch of the drum sound as. You hit it, and it it's sort of like in this African culture, it's sort of like a creates letters, and they were saying that an and words, and they were saying that the certain type of talking drum noise that they would create an what does drum that they did on stage bunch of times during this thing. They actually used it in the movie, and it was like if you were to transcribe it into a word. It would be the word to Challah which is the the lead character in Black Panther. And they played this song. This little note. I guess thousands of times throughout the movie like when he was on camera and stuff, and so there's like a ton of things like that that I learned about how seriously he went and how deep he went into the research aspect of creating the score for Black Panther that just adds all these different layers to the movie that you wouldn't really notice as a traditional viewer. But knowing about it, it just sort of in riches, the experience even more goeransson is also famous for work. With childish Gambino on a bunch of his albums. He's been nominated or maybe even one of you. I think he's he's been nominated for three Grammys over the years. But he's produced a ton of Gambino's albums, and he also produced the song read bone. He broke co wrote that song with him. And at the very end of the night, he Elvis Mitchell to host asked goeransson to perform that song for the audience. And then they surprised everybody by bringing childish Gambino out, and they performed a new version of red bone, which is the song that was in get out. It was like a huge radio hit a couple years ago and Ludwig orange. His wife is a violinist, and she sort of did this new string heavy arrangement for that song. And every obviously as soon as camping okay came out the crowd like lost their shit. And so yeah, it was just really cool. They just about one song. And that was in. That was like the, you know, the capper of the evening, but it was very cool. And it was. Other thing put on by film, independent which I I've talked about before they're a great organization. And if you are in Los Angeles out highly recommend looking into them a film, independent dot org. They have like all sorts of events like this going on all throughout the year. And you should look into it because they often sell out way in advance. So yes, yet on it. Let's move to what we've been reading. Let's start with Chris because you have a a few books that you've been reading in preparation for Sundance, correct? Yes. I have two books. I read two full books over the weekend. Anyone who's who's listening to the show several times knows by now probably that I am very afraid of flying like and I'm not talking like a mild nervousness. I'm talking like a debilitating. Terror deep in my bones, where I just the thought like recently I had to drop my wife off the airport because she was flying somewhere and just driving to the airport. I felt like I was going to have a panic attack. That's how bad this is. So obviously I have to get on a plane this week to go to Sundance. So I I said, you know, I can't keep living like this. I need to start approaching this head on its I read different books. One was called flying without fear and one was called flying with confidence. The flying with confidence. One was written by this pilot from British Airways and British Airways actually has a course they teach for people who are afraid of flying. And to this is like, that course in book form, and it really did not help me at all. I was actually getting like heart palpitations reading the book. So that didn't help and then flying without fear helped a little bit more because it was better written. I guess and. But it, you know, obviously, it did not cure me. So I'm just going to have to wait what what kind of strategies does it give you to try to overcome this? I'm curious there's like breathing exercises. There's this one thing which I am going to do where you basically put a rubber band around your hand. And you snap it anytime. You're like having like panicky thoughts, and that's basically snaps you out of them. I've actually seen people do that on a plane before. Yeah. And the other thing you did is it the books basically give you know, QNA's like every question, you might have about one of the plane does this, and it, you know, it's it explains that pretty much everything is normal. Even you know, the sound you hear our normal, and you just have to learn to just push it away and stop panicking over. But you know, that's that's that's easier said than done. Well, hopefully, it is a better experience going to Utah. How how long is the flight for you? It is four hours. Nice and short. Well, you know, put two movies on your ipad. Yeah. Dan. And also to take a bunch of pills. And we'll see how it goes self-medication is always the answer. Yes. Yeah. Jacob wall. Each T has been immersing herself in the battle angel experience. You've actually been reading the books. Yeah. Last week. I touched enough to read a little bit of the original manga and now I- blitzed through the first three hardcover collections and ordered the fourth one this morning. It's incredibly addictive and storytelling. You hasn't necessarily gotten more complex. It's still very straightforward alita. The cyborg gets into piss somebody off they have a fight Lita wins. And a matter of fact, happens Lita wins. But even with the pattern of like that. I'm impressed by how the series is unafraid to burn down what happened before like everybody thinks it's entered. You know, a holding pattern owes who going to be for a little bit. It kinda destroys everything webs. It out and moves on to something else. So even though it's predictable. Even the characters are maybe are are simple and storytelling himself as simple. It's always rapidly changing refuses to let you get bored. And it's it's it's very silly. It's very fun. It is sometimes Sex's and racist. And the way you would imagine early nineties Japanese manga to be, but I'm surprised by how invest I am these characters how invested I'm when this world, and how much I want to know more and learn more. I I it's sometimes very silly. It's it's it's kind of manga where the characters shelter special attacks as they do them. No, it's but art is is keeps on getting better with each volume and three hardcovers to believe are the first six volumes. If we didn't paperback, by the way, if those of you who read them that way. But actually has me more and more interested in the movie because I remain a I've gone from being hesitant about the movie to being cautiously optimistic because well the early. This has been quite very positive. Yeah. I'm surprised by that. And. Some of the like designs and the characters like now that I've read the manga I like look at some of the cyborg designs realize, oh, this is actually incredibly accurate to how they're drawn out. I don't know if Rodriguez and capture the sense of speed and action that the kamikazes. The wait is drawn. The like I've never seen like battles like robot driven battles drawn away that make him feel this fast and connected for page. Some very curiously if CGI and putting it in three d can like really replicate how incredibly intense the action in the manga is. But seeing how like how Rodriguez and his team have actually really recreate a look that world can argue well now the effects look good whether or not the CGI leader looks good. I'm that's something that's up for debate right now. But the overall basic designs really feel torn out of the page in in a good way. So, you know, I'm no I'm not going to go around and saying I'm suddenly a superfan of this thing I started being week ago. But I'm definitely a fan. I really like it. And if you like, you know, really good act. Comics, the hardcovers, I think normally thirty dollars Easter but all off nineteen or twenty bucks. And they are they're incredibly fun. And they're only better as ago along very cool. Ben, what have you been reading? So I over the past. I think it's probably taken me like, maybe two and a half months to read the amazing adventures of cavalier, and clay, which is a very long novel that I just have not devoted the time to sit down, and I sure I could have read it quicker. But I had a lot going on, you know, the holidays and everything, but I finally finish this book. Yeah. It's by Michael Trebon. And it is I mean, okay. So the the premise of the book is about these two cousins one of which is a refugee from Prague, I believe who studied grows up like studying magic and the art of being an escape artist. And he okay. Then he comes to New York City in nineteen thirty nine and lives with his cousin who is the son of a like, a strong man who wandered around like the vaudeville circuit and the two of them create their own superhero comic book, and it sort of traces the their careers in parallel with the rise of superhero comics in America. So it's like it's like historical fiction because occasionally they will bounce off bounce around the city and meet with actual real people like Stanley makes a cameo at one point in like trying to think who else Orson Welles shows up briefly that go to the premiere of citizen Kane, and that movie influences how they work on their comics. There's a lot of like Jewish mysticism and stuff like weaved in. There's a lot of talk about like how that man and Robin and like a forgetting the guy's name. I think it's Frederick Worsham. Who there is like? A big Casey guys may have read about about like the this is an actual thing that happened. How like he testified before congress in wrote a book talking about how comics were promoting homosexuality and stuff because of characters like that in a Robin in the you know, how like Robin his batmans ward. And like there's all this subtext in there about them having a gay relationship, and all that stuff there that real actual thing is we've into this book in a really interesting way because of the sexuality of one of the main characters I don't really want to say too much about it just because like hopefully like Peter some of you are intrigued by this. I would say it's worth reading. It's just it's very detailed. It's very it's very long. The I loved all of the crossover moments with those, you know, actual artists in end Hollywood figures, and like the I liked the story as a whole I think it gets a little too detailed for me at times. Like, I I would have been fine. If this book cut, you know, like a hundred pages out of it or something, but. I'm no, I'm not the only one on this podcast who's read this book. So I wanna hear from. I I think Jacob you've probably read this, right? Yeah. This books. Incredible. I it's been a while since I've read it. But it it's if you're interested in comics or American pop culture from the thirties through the fifties. This is a vital Thome. It has just used comics to explore America during that time period in a way that is fascinating gripping and all the things you want to have a really good book. I know that they've tried to to a movie many times, I think it's probably impossible. It's too detailed too, rich and too much happens. It is really worth track down a copy. It was funny that Scott Rudin. I I think pitched this the paramount. They bought the rights after Chaban only had a one and a half page like treatment for this book. So that was like in the early two thousands. And I think there was talk of who Toby Maguire and Jamie bell and Natalie Portman being in this film, and then there was no inter Garfield. Ryan Gosling, you know, went through a whole bunch of different evolutions in. There's even I think in the early two thousand ten they were talking about Maki making it a television miniseries instead of a film. So I'm wondering I'm wondering, if do you think it could happen as that? Or do you think it's still not even like like, I it's still not adaptable? Even like an eight or ten episode like HBO series. It covers such a long period of history that I was shocked that there was even talk that they could adapted in any form at all. Because. It's I mean, it's just such a long period that it would seem like you would have to do some digital de aging or like some old age makeup or something because they the characters go through so much over the course of the story. But yeah, I guess maybe like an HBO show or something like that. I could see that like limited series Jacob if you if this property were to be adapted in some form. What would you wanna see it take comment a ministerial HBO's probably the best bet because I feel like that as a network they have their act together when it comes to mini series. They like nobody does better. I think but I think it's gonna be case where we've got true to season one get one guy. Right L E up. So to get one person directed all of it. I feel like it's going to be ten hours. It's going to be a singular vision from a singular team. It can't be scattershot. Yeah. I it it really is way to focus of source material that try to say like, let's get ten different directors make a TV show. I I feel like it's going to be something that connects with a single filmmaker who can bring out all it feels personal in the book can't be a committee thing. That's that's an HBO. You know, they specialize in that they do a lot of mini series. That are by you know, a handful of creatives behind the scenes, so I I think that if they were to do it. That's the best bet. Yeah. And it's more the book is more comics base than magic based Peter. But I still think there's enough magic stuff. And thank you. Thanks. I know. But I know that like, I'm sure you haven't really read any like a bunch of mainstream, you know, bestselling novels that involve magic, and this is one of them. So, yeah, I'd recommend checking out for you in particular. Very cool. Let's move on to what we've been watching. I will I start off with titan games because Jacob was talking about this. I think last week on the water cooler is that correct? That will be before. Probably. Yeah. And this is the show by Dwayne the rock Johnson. That is basically his kind of like American ninja warrior style show. But it's four kind of like regular everyday people. I guess it's kind of, you know, regular no, okay, not regular people. But. People that are not athletes in their like everyday life. But they are extraordinary athletic in a way is that the probably fair to say amateur athletes pub- the word looking for. Yeah. And I think the the thing that's interesting about this show is how every one of the games in involved. Here are designed in presented in this very like epic in huge way. Like, it's every single thing is like this gigantic spectacle of like what you would imagine. If like, the Roman, you know games existed today and. I know the show spends a lot of time on trying to show these emotional stories from the participants, and I feel like I just feel like that plays a little second fiddle to the enormity of the challenges that that's what I'm really in it for. But I totally get rowdy. You know? Sports t- TV like people get into those kind of the the human stories at the center there the six or eight challenges designed by the rock each take like take on. Different strengths like, some require upper muscle, some require leg muscle and some require a combination of both in. I'm actually kind of wondering like how they choose. And I'm wondering Jacob of explained this. I've only seen the first episode how they choose when when someone gets picked like everybody applied to be on the games, and the people that like made it through to actually the shows. I wonder how it's chosen which of the games that they actually compete in because not everybody's competing in the same games. And I feel like that would put some people at a disadvantage against others. Because some of these games are seem to me to be harder than other other games. Does that make sense yet does? And it's something that my wife, and I were talking about just was we episode because, but if you cases now or somebody who has a strength based challenge for their first game, and we've all you know, smashing concrete with a sledgehammer to make something lighter can lift up over your head coach Alain ges those challenges where like somebody who's enormous bodybuilder type excels at the mo- by bodybuild moves onto the next round. As forced to to a challenge where he's the choirs agility, the guy, who's more well rounded, who's also edge all and lighter on his feet. Like destroys the bodybuilder. So Jeffey thing. I wanted that too. If it's randomly assign if they've maybe try to play their strengths at first, but definitely overall challenge like the like, the every episode ends with like, you know, the climbing up this mountain of mallows labels Mount, Olympus. Yes. Wait, which the aggro crag from guts, look like in the gardeners. Yeah. It was the Agra crag on steroids and possibly literally. But it is very much. It is challenging both agility and strength. So that was the guys who are pure strength in the first round tend to like really falter on against when they're asked to like leap over things. So it's a very question. Peter weren't wanted that to you? But definitely more well rounded athletes guys who can you run as well as lift or the ones who are excelling so far. I like it. I'm gonna keep on watching it the other complain about is I feel. Like so far when I've seen people on this like Mount, Olympus, it's a one verse one kind of competition to the end of Mount, Olympus, and I feel like I think you'd gain if if they could make Mount Olympus, so that it's four people competing. For one winner instead of two people because when I've seen it it seemed like most of the time, there's one person clearly in the lead in the never, you know. You know, the other person never catches up, and that's just not dramatic for television. But has been a problem on subsequent episodes? Some of them some of them not because the way it works. Is you obviously at home having watched. This is that there are two men compete in one one challenge. Winner moves on and two men compete again in two different men compete and the the two winners of two men do Mount Olympus and then same episode two women compete in two more women compete in those women go up Mount, Olympus. So ultimately, you're having grand finale of two mountain climbs one for men one for the women. And I'd say maybe about sixty five percent of the time. So Har it's been neck and neck at a thirty five percent of time. There is that one guy can't get over that one thing. So it's, you know, it's it's probably an issue that could be smoothed out a season two or maybe something will resolve when they take all the winners back ideas at the embassies and all the winners will come back and compete against each other. And so my guess is that maybe we should have something blocks early on. But when we bring back all the previous winners, you already beaten them out and ask them to compete against each other is when it's going to get really good. Yeah. No, I. I just I'm a big fan of the rock. And I love the endless positively that. He has in the Ono. He's just like he's like I I wish he made like what do you call those like those like Tony Robbins like? Pity? I feel like I would wanna listen to the rock. Give me encouragement motivational videos. I feel like that would be. I don't know. He's he's above that though. Right. So yeah. Okay. Let's talk about some other things. Let's talk about the fire festival because you know, this doesn't happen often throughout history. There has been movies that have been parallel development. We seen a bug's life and bugs, no aunts, and you know, volcano or I mean, a deep impact and Armageddon like that. And I mean, it happens probably more often with with documentaries because that is based on really happenings. So there's two documentaries that were parallel development about the fire festival and both the, but it's it's kind of unusual to have both of them hit within like a week period. I don't know if that's ever happened before. But in this one was really showdown of the streaming services was on that flakes when was on who for those of you who have been underneath a rock. The fire festival was this. High end musical festival that was supposed to be held on a private island in the Bahamas that was once owned by Pablo Escobar, and a was going to be the new Coachella and ended up being a disaster of epic proportions. To be honest here. I knew about the fire festival. I had I'd seen some of the memes online when you know, everything went wrong, and people were making fun of kind of like, the rich kids stuck in, you know, basically a parking lot of with tenths and still like that. But I didn't really know much beyond that because I really didn't feel the interest to read into it. I don't know why. So these documentaries were very fascinating to me because it really let me in on the whole story. One of them the one by the one who is called. What is it called fire fraud? Yes, it that's produced by F, Jerry, the company that helped market the festival, actually, it's the Netflix one that's produced by Jerry sorry. I'm confusing. It yet networks one is called fire actually has a subtitle of some kind rate. It's fire courageous party that never happened or something like that that one is produced by F, Jerry, the company who helped market the festival and is need in some the lawsuits against the festival. The who doc? Was the one that's called fire fried, it paid some money to Billy McFarlane, the guy that was in charge of this, and I guess scammed people out of their money. He so it's unclear how much they paid him. I think Billy says that it was a quarter of a million dollars. I think the filmmakers have said it's much less than that. So both of them kind of have interesting prospect that they are, you know, there's compromise ethically compromise, I think is probably the the best phrase of it. It is interesting because. The the the Netflix one the one is that is that is how a partly personally produced by Jerry. I think tries to paint them in the influencers who were hired for the marketing campaign as people who are also conned by Billy where the other the hula one. I think kind of shows that f Jerry head a lot of insight that things were going south long before they decided to not be a part of that festival. The I think the fire one on the flicks for me is better at looked better has more footage. It it's directed by Chris Smith who is the filmmaker behind one of my favorite documentaries of all time American movie, if you haven't seen that I would highly recommend checking that out and he also directed one of my favorite films of two thousand seventeen Jimmy Andy. The other one fire fraud is it's good. But it has these weird. I feel like it's not as well. Like the the footage is now while framed the interviews or not as well percentted. They have like these. They read from court transcripts in the us like this text to speech parameter other than having someone actually read what it says. And it just comes off kind of like a disjointed Mets, but I feel like both have their their own. Advantages and I feel like both these mentors are ninety minutes long. And I feel like if you need to see both of them to kind of get to essentially get the whole story. I feel like if if someone can edit these documentaries into one two our documentary, I feel like that would be the best of both worlds. That's obviously not going to happen. The the fire documentary on Netflix also have like it was interesting because I think it's the first documentary. I saw that like head noticeable score from movies like was using the score from gone girl. And maybe even some stuff from the social network, which I guess made it more cinematic in that one also had some footage some intimate footage from the NYC access tickets scandal that the who adopt didn't have. So I I recommend people. See both of them. I know I'm not the only one who watched both these this weekend. HD you watch both of them, right? Yes. I did admittedly. I watched both of them. Well, drinking lots of wine. So I don't remember all the details. But I agree with you in that. I think that these films are best watched together because they complement each other. And while I think the net flix film fire is a little more sleek than the other one. It does have that sort of shadow of accountability or unaccountability to it because it's a produced by the F, Jerry guys. Whereas fire fried is more the approaches it more as an overall fraud and kind of has a stronger timeline of all the events doesn't quite get some of the more human interest elements that fire does also kind of annoyed me that firefighters said millennials like a million times. I'm like, okay. I get it. Well, any although the worst got it. But I actually. For this. My fault. I had no idea who have these influencers are quote, unquote, influencers. So this is a whole world that was very unfamiliar to me. And I remember only hearing about fire fraud or five right? But the fire festival when it all went to shit, essentially, and that was a great moment of like short on food for everyone. But this was definitely like a world to which I am not a I've not fill millions with. So I feel like I've absolved of this. I think in some ways, but I do want to say before I finish wrapping up my thing. It sounds like a lot of us had a lie weekend. I I didn't know anybody in this documentary except for John rule, which who I know, you know, in the Vegas. I've heard his name before. I couldn't even tell you. What songs he does? Both of these documentaries. Also, try to say something about that the potential problem of influencers in the foam. Oh, exclusive Instagram's lifestyle of millennials by I don't think either of them kind of nail it Kristie saw. Both these documentaries as well. Right. Yes. I did. I really have nothing new to add everything everything you you both said pretty much yours. My my opinion of of the films. I enjoyed watching them. I do think you should watch both to get the full picture. I also think everyone involved in both these movies is just is terrible. And like I said to share a world with them. But that's where we are. Jacob. You only watch the who on fire fraud. Right. Yeah. The really stupid. But the main reason I didn't watch Netflix one is the one what has big wrap up of like huge everybody is now it shows the F Jerry guys says they're working on their own documentary. Like, oh, that's Netflix. One f those guys they're such a monster. It's not going to watch Netflix one. So I had that kind of this'll reaction which which is unfair considering that apparently, you know, they're both very different movies, very different intentions, but fire fraud does present the FDA guys as being so complicit, and and being so as being villains of the story in addition to blame Farley, I mean and people are going to ride fire fraud for paying money to believe me Farland to do interviews. But for me as being worth it because every sometime Farland is onscreen as movie he is collecting all own rope. And hanging himself and time I open to the mouth he is just reveal themselves to be this fraudulent con artist criminal idiot, and it frames entire thing is being the work of this. Bro. Tastic douchebag it makes. You wonder how did this happen? And I have not seen fire. You guys can help you chime in and tell me if I'm wrong with very very important part of this. And know that blue McFarland was no tactical genius. He was no elite businessmen with with with a solid plan. He was a dumb kid out form, a criminal enterprise and was every step of the way bumbling his way upwards before he tumbled off tower fell and splattered of business death and not having that I feel like it would be a problem. I do they fire fraud is occasionally to cute, and instead up it is, you know, very has a lot of pop culture. References love clips. Try clarify things. Like ill will mentioned a TV show, a clip that TV show to sort of you know, sort of like reinforced with talking about always necessary. But I do think that knowing that the Netflix, it's one, you know, it doesn't have befallen hanging himself in doesn't have the the F, Jerry guys. Being a vital part of this mess in like knowingly making it worse that makes me hesitant to watch it. But would you guys think I mean guy said, I should watch both in should I found there are some interviews with the the local island staff that really show the impact that this Fessel had on just the p the peop- the Bahamians who put their all into this work, and and not getting paid for a lot of it. Although there's a weird interview with one other like a Jerry person who talks about how the Bahamians put out a hit on him, which definitely seemed very wrong and irresponsible. But other than that, the I think the interviews with the Bahamians are are definitely worth it. Yeah. I think it's definitely worth checking out the other documentary because it is funny. How there's just like little details left out by each documentary that I don't even think are intentional. In that they're trying to the only thing I think that's intentional. Here is the F Jerry produced one a net. Flicks. Does kind of like just gloss over their involvement in it like they do appear in it. And it's clear that their bro douche bags. But it doesn't really put any blame on them aside from that. I would say both documentaries. I think are produced in. Fair way. Like they've really are trying to tell the story. But like, they, you know, you're not gonna get all the facts, and I feel like. Having a different point of view and a different angle. That's what's fascinating about this. As seeing the same story from two different angles. And I do agree with HD. The seeing the hundreds of people that were involved in working on this thing in never paid. And a what you know strife, this to to that small island is kind of incredible in something worth seeing it also. You know, one thing that kind of hits me coming out of this documentary. I know this probably doesn't seem obvious people. But I'm kind of amazed that what Billy was able to do it kind of makes me question any of these companies that are getting like VC funding in Silicon Valley because he was literally just kind of like a used car salesman with a small idea, and he was able to you know, mobilize tens of millions of dollars with like, no actual thing to back it up and. I guess I know a lot of people are cynical like that already. But I I really didn't think that investors with millions of dollars would get involved in something like this. If there wasn't something in, you know, if there wasn't a foundation in place, and it really makes me question. A lot of things that are, you know, basically going on today, and so kind valley until get because really could just be another Billy, you know, with an idea, and there's nothing there and earning millions of dollars for that idea. Like it just. I don't know. I it's scary. It's kind of scary. That's all I watched this week. Actually, I'm curious because Brad and Ben both the did not watch any of these fire. Documentaries. Is there any reason Broadway? You have not watched them. Honestly, I just haven't had the time just because I've been here dealing with the wedding stuff in that kind of thing. I haven't had the time to sit down to watch them yet. But I do have both of them in their respective cues. And I will watch them as soon as I get some time. Then how 'bout you? I was kind of curious, and then at a certain point, I was like, maybe I just don't need all of this nonsense in my head. And then I saw that both of them were ethically compromised. And I was like well now, I don't know what to pick. And I don't wanna watch both of them at the same time. I don't know. I just I opted out of the whole thing. Okay. Cool bread. What have you been watching? So I listen I haven't had much time. So I the only thing that I've watched us since the last episode where a couple of things on my flight over here to Utah. Mostly just catch up on on things. I watched a totally Dacian Reitman's movie with release therein. And I really enjoyed for the most part it's a has a little bit of a predictable turn in it that I saw coming. But I still thought the Shirley students performance was great. It's a very. Sort of intimate portrayal of just what life can be like as a mother and how exhaust they can be to have kids and kind of tapping into the idea of like losing yourself a little bit. When you get caught up in just how life goes after you have children that kind of thing. But I it's definitely there are times in it. It's that Charlie their life is so stressful and miserable that it made me can reconsider the idea of like ever wanting to have kids because it's something that I wouldn't mind having one day like having a couple of kids. But man, there's some real real tough moments in Monroe. I'm just like, oh, no, thanks. So so yeah. Have you guys seen tell yet? What what what do you guys think of totally? Spoiler share. I just wanna say that. Yeah. I've seen it. I really enjoyed it too for Shirley's thrones performance. And I think while the twists could have been predicted. I thought it was in keeping with the film's sort of overall themes intones without going into spoilers. But I thought it was great and something that left a left an impact on me when I got theater. For sure it's I I would agree with that wholeheartedly. And another thing I watched. So I was I watched totally. And then our flight was ahead of schedule soil only had a limited on time. So I I literally looked to see what I wanted to watch. And what I knew that I could finish in the time that I had left on my flight in the the best thing that fit was a documentary called the perfect bid that contested who knew too much, and this is a documentary that I've seen just like the poster art cover art for pop up on. I think Amazon or Hulu what one of the places maybe all of them who knows? And I was interested in it simply because I'm somebody who like everybody grew up watching the prices, right when they were homesick from school in still catch it every now, and then and this documentary is tells the story of this guy who is responsible for a person getting a perfect bid during the showcase showdown of the prices, right? Literally to the the number the exact dollar. And so this tells the documentary tells the story of this guy who is a a lifelong fan who has been to the show. Dozens of times was a contestant has been was seen on TV like being one of the people in the crowd yelling bids and like having contestants actually listened to him and win prizes. And it kind of it's meant to be the sort of thing of clearing the air because I never heard about the story when it happened. But apparently, it was a big deal. When this guy did get the perfect bid during the showcase showdown. And there was rumors that maybe there was some kind of insider cheating going on where somebody behind the scenes was giving people inside information or that. There was a group of fans who had like somehow use priceless to to help other people win in that kind of thing the whole interesting story behind and so it's it's kind of set up as this thing of clearing the air and explaining what really happened because apparently they contested who got the perfect bid. Has ties to the the main person who's at the center of this story. The one thing I will say is that even though I was interested in this documentary. Just because I like the price is right. And it's an interesting story. But the documentary it self is not very well produced it feels very cheap. Sometimes like the audio from the interviews is isn't that great the production value just isn't there? But it for for me. It was just hearing the details of this guy's story in how it all unfolded, and sort of just the history of everything that was interesting to me. So is this worth checking up because this concept seems fascinating to me. And I I love the nineteen Ninety-four movie quiz show, directed by Robert Redford think starring John Turturro is this something I is the quality worth getting through for the content. I mean, if you like the price is right in your interesting in those kinds of things I say, yes, like, it's it's it's interesting that you you can kind of. Ignore that the quality. And it's it's short to. It's barely an hour and twenty minutes. Yeah. So so you it's a breeze to sit through and so, yeah, if like I said, if you if you like those kinds of things than, you know, wanna know, the behind the scenes story of how the stuff happened that night. I think it's worth with checking out even if you're tossing it on like while you're doing something else. Do you know where people can watch that outside of being on a plane? You can find it on Hulu. I just just confirmed that so if you're not on a flight, Hulu is where you can watch it very cool shakeup, what have you been watching? Initiative fire fraud. I saw a earliest reading of Gaspar. No as climax, and and trying to get away to some this movie up, and it's called Noah is a director who was like irreversible, enter the void and love. He's a provocateur. He's very difficult. He makes films that are often hard to watch very unrelenting. Very brutal very upsetting and climax very much follows that path the basic gist here is if all of dancers, a large dancers to the point where like it's hard to follow all the characters. At least a first time viewing who are gathered at a isolated abandoned building for hersal for some dads project. There's never fully explained the first half, the movie is them rehearsing them partying than drinking than having a good time, then around half with through the movie revealed that someone has spiked the sangria they've been drinking with LSD and. Things go very very badly for everyone and you start plummeting to the lowest possible depths of humanity, you can possibly imagine and ascribed this on Twitter as a step up as directed by Satan. And I stand by that description, it is deeply upsetting and it starts off. You know, literally, this massive amazing unbroken crane Shah of this incredible dance number like it puts most movie Denver is a shame. But it was a full fledged musical. It will be spectacular and the truth Gaspar, no, way fashioned tins. UC's extremely long complicated shots at feel like they feel impossible. I mean, the once the LSD reveal happens the movie becomes a one shot. And I'm sure there are cuts hidden there. But I can't tell you where at this point. And it becomes as one long disorienting shot following various characters as they freak out become paranoid attorneys other and just becomes Helen earth. The colors of all the rooms become garish. Violence breaks out harbor, ugly truths are revealed and just genuinely bad things start happening. And right now, I'm not sure if I'm stupid or the movie she's too vague. I'm not sure what the point of it all is. I can't tell you that. I understand what climax is trying to tell me other than, you know, don't put LSD in the sangria. But I will admit that. I was completely gripped by it from from at least one thing started going to hell gripped by it. It's a little bit slow going on, especially when posts dancing and pretty freak out is a little sometimes a little hard to get through the little dog, quite dull. But I wasn't quite engaged with characters that it didn't know their names can keep track of who you could just so many people. But by the time things have gone south by the time. No as pulling so many tricks. I was back pocket do horrible things. He was characters in these unbroken takes that feel like. Impossibly the there there are affecting this movie that because it's what doesn't wanna take it. No cuts. I don't know how they did it. I mean, I don't know how violence is being staged. I don't how these sequences are being put together I straight up do not comprehend how it's being done. So from a purely for technical point of view, if you want just a mesmerizingly awful experience, like a movie, a movie just puts you into a bad place for a long time and put in films in a way that's impossible to understand how it's being done it's entirely gripping. And on those grounds, I can recommend it. But it's definitely a Ford ventures people only it is it something else, man. If you've seen his previous movies, you know, he he does really wild things opening credits scenes that come we expect them when it presented an in ways. He don't expect movie begins where it ends and flashes back in and run the closing credits. I after the show the movie, then flashes back that kind of movie, it is it sets out the really unsettle you upset you and throw you off. And eight twenty four is released in March and mocking and say, go out and see everyone everyone go see climax. But if you are like super adventurous, if you kind of filmmaker who started trying to film fan who'd Myers technique who admires, you know, being tested would Myers like experiences that are going to leave you scarred benway's ways. You wanna talk about climax is really something else. And when we do next year's, you know, list of fifty greatest moments of the year, or if it's going to be like far from climax route, Tom ahead better dislike forever burned in my brain. I'm curious anybody else catched fest? I know played a lot of fest last year. No. And I generally do not like the still make her, but I am a fan of single shot stuff and the craft and. Take up a hate you because you're gonna wanna see this. And I know I'm gonna hate it. And should I should I just pretend that doesn't exist? I pretend doesn't exist. Peter. I don't think it's for you. But it's. Their stuff in this movie. Man. I don't know how I frigging don't know how they did this move. I don't know. I don't know how the movie was made like I can watch a lot of movies. A lot of unbroken long talks and a lot of chaos happening along shots. But I- straight up their stuff happens movie, I've said subtle subtle things are like interface that like when I think back on. I don't know how they pulled it off. I don't know how they staged that. And it because it feels a real in a way that was upsetting in a way that most movie violence or movie, you know, considering sequences don't hit me the way this one did. Regret, regrettably. It sounds like you're gonna have to see the shake up. Have been seeing theaters. I can't imagine it playing at home at home where you can pause it and look away. And like you have started about dogs and cats or family members, it's like a player saying, but if you're held hostage by it really only way to see this. I would never watch a movie at home. I've tried watching into the void a home. After seeing it theaters. It's not the same thing. So if you see this, you know, look for in March try to track it down, and I'm not saying you can't enjoy it home. But I'm saying that I can't imagine being the same at home. Okay. What what else? Have you watching Jacob? Well, we're running really long blitz to my last few chew detective season three. It's good. It's not as like lightning bottle amazing season one. And as as a person who's quoted on the box of the Blu Ray box for season two as one of the few defenders. It's not as fun house crazy wacky. We're making the ship as we go. Sanity of season two one of the very few defenders of that. But it's a very compelling mystery Marschall ease really really good playing Saint character in nineteen eighty nine hundred ninety and two thousand fifteen like he's playing different ages. The well drawn about a mystery. I I wanna know where it goes. He's Jude active is good again. Or it's good at international sets again because he's into is good for weirdos. Like me. I watched practical magic for the first time. My wife's watch movies. It's really cute. I liked it. I think that it's as far as rom calms. Go more rom com should have magic and murder in ghosts. And people be there rhetoric from the dead more of that, please. I really watched Halloween for first time since it has success in my wife's first time watching it movie holds up at home. It's great my wife thinks that the whole doctor subplot works. So suck it take up. Your wife is right about everything ever except for this. And Finally I start right annual rewatch watch game of thrones prepare for the new season. Every every year we before the game thrown ref. We watched all the previous episodes. Wait, you're watching the entire series in the entire series that pain. Yeah. I watched four episodes in row while painting figures, we'll get to that. In a second later last night and game on season one even on that much smaller budget when they're like, when's the show is mostly, you know, twenty people talking and rooms it's still really really good and is much. I love the big budget show to become their days recommence when game of thrones with the show about people whispering in rooms, I missile stay slightly. But you know, it holds up really well still here shows of all time eager to get through the whole thing. Again, very cool and everybody can watch that on HBO go or HBO. What's the other one? Now. I got. Yeah. Yeah. Ben, what have you been watching? I watch. Police story two last week. I talked about the first police story and criterion is doing four K restorations of both of these movies. So I had never seen either one and I asked them for screeners. And so I got a chance to check this out, and the they're actually putting the re releasing them in theaters they're going to be on February first, the both movies are going to be playing at the Alamo draft house in downtown Brooklyn. And then on March eighth they're going to be at the new art in Los Angeles. And I think they're supposed to be like a national rollout after that. But if you can't catch them in theaters they're going to be available for purchase through the criterion collection on April thirtieth of this year. So I would say if you're a fan of martial arts movies of Jackie Chan's, early films, these Erlich instant purchases, like there's no, you know, I'm shocked and and embarrassed that it's taken me this long to get around to seeing these two movies because they're really incredible. The second one. Opens with a recap of like the best stunt moments from the first film, partly as a plot. Refresher. But also, partly as like a flex like telling the audience that this one is going to be better. Like, yeah, we're, you know, here's a here's a highlight reel get a get a load of what's coming now. And I'm not quite sure that the second one actually lives up to that standard. It has incredible action as you would expect. But I think the first one is just so it's like really inventive with the action. The second one feels you know, just as impressive, but maybe a little bit more situation dependent like like, the for example, the final climax is set in a huge warehouse. And it your seems like it seems like it's a little bit more designed if that makes sense like, oh, here's the part where you know, we throw guys through a billion barrels that happened to be laying around in here. Here's the part where fireworks go off. Because of course, there are fireworks in this abandoned warehouse. So. In terms of like the plot. I think I I would recommend police story one over two, but both movies are really like invaluable in terms of, you know, nineteen eighties action classics that are not from America. So it highly highly recommended I think a couple of things I really appreciate about both these movies. The during the fights Jackie Chan gets hit all the time. Like people don't just attack him one at a time like the the traditional martial arts movie cliche. He's like constantly actually getting hit. Which is you don't see it that often in these types of movies. And also, it's not just him. That's pulling off like the incredible moves like all of the the henchmen and stuff that he's fighting against are doing flying jump kicks, and like really impressive moves to. And I feel like in more modern like had a Tony Josh style. Martial arts film. It's really like he's the superstar in everybody else's like, clearly, you know, a level or two below him. But it seems like it's one of those things where it seems like if you were to follow. The story of one of these random henchmen who was actually also really good at martial arts. There might be a whole separate franchise in there. Because this person seems almost just as capable as Jackie Chan's character does. So anyway, police story police story to that vailable the story cinematic universe that they missed out on. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So those are available on April thirtieth and come into heaters. Like, I said before that I also saw bad times with L royale. Chris talked about this last week. So I'm not gonna go too long on it. But man, I really like drew got as a filmmaker. I think he is a really really smart writer director. I enjoy this movie. A great deal. I do think to echo what Chris said last week. It's a little bit long. But I loved Jeff bridges and Cynthia Revoz dynamic, I loved John Hammond. This movie, Chris Hemsworth, like I think Chris said last week that there's a at least one plotline that he wouldn't mind seeing removed entirely. I liked all the plotlines. I just wish the whole thing could have been a little bit tighter. It runs if feels like it drags just a little bit. But the concept is so great. You know, it's set in the hotel where it's completely split in half. Were one side is California one side, isn't avodon. And there's. I was watching a little bit of behind the scenes stuff and just the production design elements are really impressive for what they did in terms of lighting and all of that stuff there. So yeah, I would definitely definitely recommend this movie. I think if I would've caught it last year, it might have ended up like maybe squeezing into my top fifteen or something. So that is bad time to the El royale. I got it. I think it's available on on a VOD and all that. Now, I I got it through the net. Flicks disc plan. I also watched hotel artists on a plane, and this is the movie that I was catching a lot of flack for basically being like a rip off of the John wick movies at set in a hotel where Jodie Foster plays a nurse who tends to the wounds of assassins in people who are in like a futuristic crime syndicate, basically like their members of this specific hotel, and they're able to come to her to recuperate after a particular injuries. But they gather Jeff Goldblum is in the cast is really good Jodie Foster starting. Sterling K Brown. Jeff Goldblum Brian tire. Henry I think I don't like this movie nearly as much as either of the two John wicks. I don't know if it's a full on rip-off. Definitely there. Tons of similarities feels a little weird in that regard. Drew Pearce his direct Auriol debut that direction is fine. And I mean, he, you know, he's the guy who wrote ironman three what was one of the writers on ironman three. So you know, he has like a certainly a creative streak in him. And it seems like he's he's going just far enough to try to separate this from the John wick stuff that that. I'm not really like rolling, my eyes and giving it too much side. I in terms of that angle. But just like a lot of this movie feels very written. If you know what I'm saying, it, it's sort of like characters speak in ways that that people would never speak in the real world and not in like a super stylized way like in tarintino movie or something. So I found it just to be lackluster. All the way around although I will say sterling K Brown is very good. And I wanted to see him in more leading roles and so few patella who I know primarily is like the metal legged henchmen from the first Kingsman movie. She was also like Star Trek beyond and stuff. But she this was like the first movie where I was like, oh, wow. She actually like could maybe lead movie that would be interested in watching like, she's she's more than just like the the stereotypical female bad ass. You know, the action star kind of thing I feel like she did a little bit of that in this movie as well. But I thought her acting was actually pretty good movie. So let's not forget this as the Potala is also dark universes famous the mummy. So I never saw the money. So he's going to be the lead of that franchise is also one that leaves in climax with mentioned that. Okay. Well, yes. Oh, man. This is a severe booth. Tele heavy podcasts thing in climax. Jacob. No. But she plays. Somebody who lots of bad things happen to she walks like an Egyptian stirring, her dances off. Okay. Sorry. I give up on done. I quit. No. And then two other movies really quickly. I had like a over the past week and a half of have like a an unwitting George Kuku triple feature last week. I talked about gas late, which was really great. And then on the plane. I recently flew back to Florida. I watched the Philadelphia story and the women both of which were directed by George Cooper. And I had no idea that he directed those. But I'll talk about the women I really quickly this movies from nineteen thirty nine. It is a move. It's the first movie I've ever seen ever that does not have any male characters in it at all it stars Norma Shearer. Join crow Joan Crawford and Rosalind Russell. And it's based on a play. And the entire thing is just about like these the sort of like bickering high society women and not a single male actor appears in the entire movie which for nineteen thirty nine. And also it was written by two women. I think. Yeah. Anita loose and Jane Murphy, so for nineteen thirty nine that's like a jaw dropping achievement. Really? Like, you know, I feel like I haven't seen that ever lot. Not even in a modern context. So that's very impressive. Say that I think that that the only time I've ever seen that happen with there's all female cast with no man, incite is wheat fem, the French film, eight women, which is a dark comedy musical. And is about a man in a way, it's like about the murder of a man. And but it's only only women are on screen the entire time. That's cool. And this movie also is sort of about men, it's it's these women talking about the men in their lives. And and one of them is cheating is like the mistress of one of their husbands. And it's it's all very like like in sexual in that way, not like, literally, incest. But it's I mean, I I don't know if it really holds up under like, a a modern lens like, you know, there's a lot of like a for example, the husband is cheating. But he is basically like his behavior is justified by these women because this became at nine thirty nine, and it was just like more societally acceptable for men to cheat on their wives back, then it was just like a given. I guess. So you know, if you're watching it through a twenty nineteen lens and trying to apply like today's standards to it. I think it's going to feel a little bit lacking in that regard. But in terms of it being in nineteen thirty nine movie that that is like a powerhouse for these women to to star in this movie in delivered incredible performances. It was very enjoyable. I don't know if I actually I'll just put it this way. I would recommend watching the Philadelphia story over the women, even though there are men in this movie of it starts Katharine Hepburn Cary Grant and James Stewart, and there's terrific performances by all three of them. Jimmy Stewart gets drunk in this movie or his character does for a decent stretch of the film. And I've never I don't think I've seen outside of like, it's a wonderful life. Jimmy, Stewart play like a drunkard at any point. And this he's like very convincing. And it super super entertaining. Hepburn is great Cary. Grant is great like the this is a movie about a socialite whose wedding plans are complicated by the simultaneous arrival of her ex husband in a tabloid magazine journalist that's the description from Wikipedia, but man, it's just a solid solid writing. There's tons of like, you know, back and forth, zingers and stuff. Like that. This is like a it came out in nineteen forty and it just feels like a really classic. Rom com that is that like transcends, the Johner the tropes that appeared later in the genera that anything, you know, if you're if you're talking about romantic comedies new sort of roll your eyes at the way that they incorporate certain elements or always play out very predictably in you're talking about the movies that came out in the eighties nineties. I was still recommend going back and watching this one because it came out way before then it is predictable in a way. But it's also super super entertaining in the script is so solid. So that's the Philadelphia story that came out in nineteen forty you know, it's very interesting about the women's all female cast. Because when he said that that never occurred to me that I had probably never seen a movie that has an all female cast. And I was trying to think about it. And I can think of a dozen all male casts, but go. Yeah. That seems way more. Yeah. Maybe there's something that I've seen where it only has like one or two cast members. It's like a really small scale indie movie. That is only about a woman under best friend or something like that that I can't think of the top of my head, but the closest hasn't sprawling cast. So it's really impressive in that way. You're the closest thing I can come up with is like the sent the two thousand five horror movie that had like I think I had one guy in it. But it was mostly women out. That's really crazy. And I'm surprised that they're not that we should be arguing for all of one sex cats of there. But the I don't know if something I'd just never thought of. Did you mean to skip over the escape more? Yeah. I watched the first episode of escape, Dan Amora, which Peter's talked about a bunch, and I just haven't I don't have much to say about it. Because of only seen the first episode, but the music in that show already seems like really I mean, like, I think Dave Chen who hosts the slash podcast was talking about how the the music budget must have been completely out of control and not just sort of. Yeah, I'm interested to dive into it a little bit further. But I was very impressed with the the songs that they were able to get an how expensive that must have been. And they also use a really deep cut song called from the beginning from Emerson lake and Palmer that my dad the listen to all the time, and I listened to growing up, and I've never heard it used in any piece of media ever. So I was like completely taken aback that they use this super Tepe cut song. So. Yeah. Anyway, that's a scapegoat anymore. That's on Showtime right now. Yeah. One of the lead characters blast like a pop station with pop songs. In the one of the work area. So you get a lot of that kind of stuff, which is great Chris aside from the to fire documentaries. What have you been watching? I watched the film it's on VOD this weekend. And it's in a few theaters. It's called the standoff at Sparrow creek. And it is very good. It's a low budget. Indie film at it shows. You exactly like how how to do so much with so little it's it's it's almost entirely set one location. It followed the house this militia there there are right wing militia. And they find out there was a shooting at a cop funeral and one of their guns in in their armory is missing. So they think one of them did shooting, and obviously that's going to draw heat on them. So they're basically trying to figure out which one of them did the deed, it's sort of like Reservoir Dogs where you know, there's one person who's a traitor and all that is up, but it's not really. Like that at all end. This was incredible. It's it's so tense, and so well made and you know, I can't imagine the budget on this was high at all. But it looks phenomenal. Like, it makes this one location to so cinematic with just you by using shadows. And a certain angles. I was really impressed with it. Like, this is probably better than eighty five percent of big budget movies that will come out this year where can people watch this? It's available via dearness you can probably rent it on day on itunes or very pipelines. Awesome fest last year we're talking about last year during the during the up. So the show the second Chris this movie is fantastic. And while not up a one to one reservoirs comparison in my right up movie, edited compare it to the energy I felt Washington movie was comparable to when I first watched Reservoir Dogs. Exact kind of like that kind of indie and. The director was named pulling up right now Henry Dunham if this is his first feature than holy shit. His second movie is going to be like, I can't wait. He's clearly someone keep an eye on very cool. Let's move onto H T H T. You finally saw if you'll street could talk finally Faulk, you'll she could talk long after I finalized, my top ten twenty eighteen which I hugely just regret because it feels she could talk would have totally made my top ten. This is such a lush lyrical film by Barry Jenkins. And I was just a wash in all like the colors in the vibrancy of this film. I absolutely adored it. I haven't read the James Baldwin book upon which is which this is based. But I hear that the book focuses more on the the crime aspects and the sort of the club the corrupt. Criminal institutions through which the main character Nate. Yes. Funny gets imprisoned falsely imprisoned, and I I'm really loud that Barry Jenkins decided to go sort of different route he decided to focus more on the characters and the romance. And I think that that really is where like who could talk like has its strength because it's such a sublime piece in the way that it just focuses on the faces of all the characters in here and Jenkins again brings out the best in his cast. Everything is just so beautiful end of expressions. There's just so rich that I love watching every frame of this film. I wish you could have saw this before the top tens. But we we like a lot of sites will publish their top ten's a lot of critics in like the first couple of weeks of of December. We actually are in the waiter mix of it. We publish it in the first week or so of January is that correct? Jacob. Yeah. We we try give ourselves a little bit more time. So I'll try ketchup. So we try to give us enough time. But it's also every year there ends up being stuff that you know, we just can't catch. Yeah. When I actually saw when I saw shoplifters I was sworn between seeing shoplifters or feels she could talk and shoplift through ended up going to the number one spot in my list. I'm very happy. I saw that. But I was upset that I wasn't able to see both before my list was finalized. Cool. What else have you been watching this week? So this was inspired by his most recent nostrum this column, I watched the commuter. We. Is like the most dad movie ever. I say that in that. When I was watching this movie. I could just imagine all dad's watching this. And be like, yeah. This is a great movie. This is the Liam Neeson film that in which he stars as a commuter who one day as he's going on train back from work after he's been fired is approached by women played by verify mega who tells him that he has a choice to to find one person who doesn't belong on the train, and he can get I think ten thousand dollars out of it. And this ends up being a very tense thriller in which he is being watched and trying to figure out who is calling the shots and pulling the strings and lives on lines and Liam Niessen. Of course as an ex cop who somehow is is trained in like swat style fight training. And it's it's just so fun. And I enjoyed clutch Sarah directs this in a way that's way, more silage than it should be like at the beginning. There's a montage of just like these mundane. Urban moments, and it's there's just so many angles and intense close ups, and like why does this feel so tense and there's doing through a montage of their everyday lives. But it's fun. It's kind of like if you will kind of like, a a b movie with a an immense budget, and I really enjoyed it for that. Yeah. I feel like this movie that's going to gain like some steam on TNT with the dad's. Yeah. Solitaire team. Really what else have you been watching? So I've been catching up on a two TV shows that I really enjoyed. But haven't been able to watch a frequently until now the I was I'm gonna talk about the chilling adventures of Sabrina. This is the Netflix series, starring kinship, gut as the titular Sabrina spellman in the sort of revamped horror gothic take on this icon character. I had watched a few episodes of four, and I'd really enjoyed it. But just in half the time to finish it. So I caught up on season one just in time for season two to come. I think in April, but I remember watching this, and I was really into spitting it because it was from the same producers as Dale and I liked the sitcom when I was growing up, and I was kind of eager to see the sort of gothic take I intimated to be. Be something akin to like Riverdale meets Buffy the vampire slayer in the first episodes kind of confirmed that thought, but then it got very dark and very violent towards the end throat-slitting and throat slitting is like the one thing that I can't stand watching. I know why it's a big fear of mine when I was young I used to fear that like air would come in like slice my throat open. I don't know. I have that fear. But. I was not fond of that. Otherwise, it's really I quite enjoyed the first season. And it's it's not quite as overwritten as rodale. It's definitely better than than Riverdale. It doesn't have the camp factor that Buffy has either has kind of this own John rea-. So I I liked it though. It was not sure if I would call it can't be, but it definitely has a sort of a heightened tone to it which I enjoyed, and then I also have been I've caught caught up on crazy extra fun, which is the CW series co-created in starring Rachel bloom. So this is a series that I've been kind to kind of waving the flag four because it's a lot of people don't give it a fair shot because of its title. And I understand that people are put off by that. I was initially put off by it. But crazy ex girlfriend is this really clever really really written. Physical series that both subverts the tropes of the romantic comedy. While expertly executing all of those all of its sort of archetypes in a way that is both sincere and office a ical it juggles it walks that line really well and this is its final and fourth season fourth and final season of the series. It's wrapping up all the storylines, and I really love how this series has become not just like a send up of the romantic comedy. But a really nuanced depiction of mental illness, especially in the way that the fourth season has kind of seen a ritual Bloom's character, Rebecca come terms with her mental illness and deal with it in a really healthy and sensitive way. And I I'm really enjoying that musical numbers are great. Of course, as always I just when I think that they are out of musical genres or types to parody. They keep surprising. You like this this past week? I think or two weeks ago, they did Abril. I haven't I've never seen cats, but they did a brilliant cats parody which also doubled as an episode about vaginal health 'cause get like cats pussy. Anyways, Casey echo friend is a great show. If you haven't given a chance yet, I highly encourage you do is a funny kind of has a lot of cringe humor, especially in the first actually all throughout but in the first seasons, especially but if you can like stomach some second hand embarrassment. I highly recommended I think you've sold the in both of these CV shows, I did watch the first step aside of Sabrina in. I was quite taken with it. But like, I don't know if it's just a thing with me and streaming shows, but it's so easy. If it's like the next episode isn't like in the west of under DVR, it's so easy to get distracted by all those tiles. Netflix. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's so easy. If you're not binging it to just. To fall off. So I'm going to try to check both these out. What's our seasons of craziest girlfriend are on Netflix as well. Cool. Let's move on to what we've been eating in the last couple months have been talking about my dieting, which is something. I actually I was hesitant to talk about on this podcast in public because I feel like that can be annoying, but I've gotten a lot of great responses from slash foam listeners and readers and follows her on Twitter. We actually been getting messages from people who listen to this podcast that have decided to use myself in Jacob as inspiration to go on the Kito diet, and have, you know, been sharing their successes and how much weight they've been been losing. So it's a really great to be hearing that and that makes me very happy this past week. I ordered new genes that were six inch. Smaller than jeans I had been wearing for the last couple of years, and they fit so that is a success. And when I went and saw my new doctor at forward Etretat about in a previous episode one of his goals for me was to get off my heartburn medication to take heartburn. I take two pills of private every day. That's twice the recommended dosage, but I have been prescribed that a couple a few years ago from Dr basically if I don't take those pills. My wife is miserable. My, you know, my throat is eaten up by acid and. Last week. He told me that he thinks with as much weight loss as I've had which at this point is nearing forty pounds. It he thought that I could go down to one pill a day. I was skeptical. I went down to one day, and I am not having any heartburn, which is also kind of amazing because you know, one of the things that causes heartburn his fatty foods, which I'm eating eating a lot of on this diet. So those are my two. You know success stories of the week that I'm very happy about and to in again. I I, you know, I'm not saying everybody you have to take you have to go into Kita diet to lose weight. There's many ways to lose weight. I am happy that people are listening and getting inspiration from this. And I'll continue to share some of the things finding which are low sugar. The one thing I wanted to kind of recommend this week is there's this company called Chuck zero which has these like squares that are almost like Jared LA chocolate squares. And the thing I discovered this week from them is peppermint bark, which I think it's a little that on their website. But you can get notified for when it comes back in. And I'm a big fan of peppermint bark. And one of the big disappointments of being on a diet. This holiday season was not being able to eat. Peppermint bark in this stuff. Tea's like, real, peppermint bark. It doesn't taste like, you know, it doesn't take. Close to peppermint bark. It's not like halo ice cream to realize this like tastes like real have been bark. So I always the links to those in the show notes Jacob how how is your diving going? When I just going really, well, so far Kito is one of the few dives, right? Oh, feel miserable. Every single day. I mean, they're they're tough moments and tough, you know, tough stretches. But normally when I'm died in the past has been like. Agony late the entire time. I feel like I'm miserable and upset angry at the world. But I feel you know, very stable common comfortable on this diet. I mean, this is like the new normal for me, which may have be reached my goal weight muck going to the reverse. So we have to, you know, sick with this, you know, for most of my life, I can do this. And I I feel like I can I can stick to this change for the foreseeable future. I've been tracking my actual physical progress on my Instagram page checkup Samuel hall, you know, so if you wanna see photographs, and if you want to see some foreign after stuff, you know, a little over two weeks into this already been some, you know, some some some nice some minor, but decent results, you can check out those photos, but meantime, all minor by I'm seeing this photo of a shirt that clearly didn't fit you side by side with you wearing the same shirt, and it it seems to fit quite nicely. It still a little snug. I think maybe next week on may be close to be on the way. Public about you know, figures crossed we I'll second Peter's sack accommodation's slimfast makes a hito peanut butter Cup. That is very good. Like, you said it wouldn't be delicious. If you eating it like next reece's like in real life, but on a diet where you really want to be broke up with really good. Also swerve cake mix a muster where you can find this regularly. I we buy it at a store called central market here in Austin. I would definitely check online buy in the grocery store near you. But I'd say picnics where each cupcake you make with it. It's only three carbs three net carbs, and it tastes enough. Like a real cupcake for it to really scratched at each. So at swerve cake mix and slimfast peanut butter. Cuss Kito be backups are very good. And our me our heat me from like, you know, everybody a snack. I actually have actually have a snack and you'll have as opposed you know, and the shutdown entirely, which is extremely helpful slimfast Kito. Peanut butter cups are actually under the. The name fat bomb, which is the term that people using Kito. They're not really actually fat bombs, and that might even prevent people from you just want a low sugar snack from trying them. But they're very good. If that bomb stand on my wife is all the research is what she says when it comes to this guy stuff. People who are very very serious Kito or is like more extreme than Peter. And I even our than they try to eat a very large amount of fat like much much much more fat in, you know, do it as part of the process of the chemical ketosis process. And I can't explain it to you. But so fat bombs are actually they flee full-fat when you're on Kito. The fat doesn't really matter as long as you keeping the carbs and sugar down. I think some jazz this just trying to steal that term base. Yeah. Brad on the opposite opposite side of things. What have you been eating this week? Not anything super exciting. By did get my hands on a couple of things that when I was at the store earlier this week runnings Mirren's, I've got my hands on the new Oreo the most stuff, which is regularly petits that have even more a cream filling than the double stuff Oreos. They're very thick. There's like only eight of them per row in the smaller Oreo packages, Brad. I know I share your obsession with Oreos in different seasonal Oreos. This is honestly one of the only things right now. The I want that could convince me to go off my diets, tell me is it is it as amazing as I picture it to be they they are good. I will say that they are enjoyable, but I do feel like there's a little too much cream feeling like there's a heavy media. Maybe between double stuff in this where it would probably be like perfect. But I I. I still like them like I mean, it's really it's just like the, you know, the the mix of the cream with the classic Oreo cookie is always good. And so like dipping them in milk. Is yet we were talking actually my girlfriend about this. And they probably be good. If you like use them to make your own homemade MC flurries since there is a lot more frosting to work with mixing with ice cream in cookie. But yeah, they're they're pretty tasty. They're not, you know, not mind blowing because they're not much different than a regular Oreo. But they're good cool. What else have you been eating or consuming, and the so one of the things obviously that I go out of my way to find are different flavors of mountain dew really any soft drink, but there's some new flavors for mountain dew amp, which is basically mountain dews like energy, drink kind of brand. And they've taken some s new flavors that are seem slightly different from their game fuel variants of mountain dew which they released whenever there's like a new big video game. They do cross promotion for. And so they have four new flavors of mountain dew amp that's under the game feel moniker. Now, they have cherry burst berry blasts, the original mountain dew flavor and tropical strike, and I'm not really a a berry kind of flavor kind of person, especially when it comes to like a blue raspberry or stuff like that. So I didn't get that one. But I did get the cherry burst and the tropical strike and both are pretty tasty. They taste pretty similar to the regular mountain dew game fuel flavor variants, but just with slight variation. I think it's just because of whatever other ingredients are in their their energy, drink style. The only downside. I guess it's like they they come in bigger cans. So it's it's a lot of mountain dew to drink. You know, I'm really only Dama drink like one can of mountain dew and just a regular size in a single sitting. So it's a little too much, but they they taste pretty good. And so if you're if you're mountain dew fan. These are made for people who sit in front of their computers playing warcraft for twenty hours in a row. I mean, that's very true. So they'll probably enjoy them. They don't have to get up as as many times. I will say though, these have a really I don't know if this is a normal mountain dew amp thing since I have never had a regular one before. But they have these weird can tops where it's like this black plastic tab that you pull flip up and pull back. So that it slides it back over the mouthpiece. Rather than popping it open. I was I was really confused by I I don't really understand what the point is of it. But I guess sometimes gaming gets really intense. And you don't wanna spill your drink. When you get mad at a fifteen year old for getting you. I don't I don't know. Okay. Let's move on to what we've been playing Jacob. You've you're the only one that's playing things this week. So what have you been playing? Even though I'm not really playing things much preparing to play once again Instagram page. I'm tracking progresses. I learned how to paint miniatures. I finished a first batch of or hammer forty K figures, I've been painting some metal reaper figures, which are these sort of five seven dollar like fantasy figures like it used for DVD games. I'm really enjoying it being like getting into the hobby of painting and building models. Miniatures is definitely a amount of money spent fronted byles supplies while the basic paints, but I'm really enjoying it. So far, I'm pleased with how things look, you know, don't think we're going to be the kind of guy who can be like a master miniature painter. But now myself looks very presentable on a table. So I'm very happy with it checkup. I was looking at these photos, and I I was in disbelief that this is your first time painting because these look very very good. Oh, thank you. Peter. Appreciate that. It's very. Fun. And I think it's a case where like I thought maybe learn and just be really crappy at first. But you know, I took my time may mistakes fixes mistakes. And this is a hobby that allow people maybe think is harder than it is in. And I've I'm not gonna say it's easy requires a lot of concentration, and like, you know, effort to make it look good. But I'm pleasantly surprised by how acceptable it is. Once you're in there. Okay. That doesn't for today's slash on daily in the doc, you can find links to Joshua's article running down the differences between fire and fire fried, which one is better, which one should you watch which once let's ethically compromised. There's also wait to HT's article on the battle angel passport iron city immersive experience, and you can find more of all of our work and social NetCom link in the show notes this podcast how dailies post every. Weekday on itunes, Google play overcast Spotify all the popular podcast apps. Please feel free to Senator feedback questions. Comments concerns to us at Peter at slash home dot com. And if you want life advice from Chris you could also send it there as well. 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Oh, what a rascal. Override heard you at the top and television because you fix aerials. Do you love helping people with their TV signals and that I'm confused explained that once? He hit the top and television because he's he's up high fixing TV aerials, okay? At the top. Yeah. I get well, Peter. I hear you time with the brass because no one would trust you with the silver. Oh, boy, man. Jacob your delivery is just chef's kiss on the. I'm just speaking degrade truths about all of us here. I want to do a full old tiny podcast where he just like flings these insults. Well, as a child, I was a musical prodigy. I played on the linoleum. I think I think this this publisher this book publisher should hire Jacob to read the audiobook version of this book. Oh, I'll yeah. I wonder if anyone has bought this book because of Jacob reading it on here. I sure hope so 'cause no woman ever walks back when she goes for vied with me to drive a hearse. Wait. Did you kill somebody?

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"Hello it is overreaction. Monday february eighth two thousand and twenty one last one sees last one of the season. We had a hell of a run. We appreciate you all for enjoying the ride of an nfl season alongside of us. We appreciate you telling your friends about this show. We appreciate you if you hated to show for. Not saying the show was bad. We appreciate the hell out of you for this. Nfl season. we really do. And i think we let it all out there on the field today. I do feel like today. We did leave it all out there. Maybe not every day this season two. We leave most days though it was all left. In these microphones It really was it. Does stink but we appreciate you for listening today. I think you're gonna enjoy it and then as we ramp up let's have a health and offseason. Hey we're gonna have the helvin off season but we need to enjoy what we just seen yesterday to do. So let's get some good conversation. Ladies and gentlemen the forty three year old farm animal. The goats wins in thrilling fashion in super bowl. Fifty five and when. I say thrilling fashion. I mean dominant from beginning to end of that entire damn game. They were in control when nobody thought it was going to happen. They won by three scores. Everybody's predicting that that could potentially happen on the opposite way everybody was thinking that the chiefs could blow the buccaneers outta the goddamn water. Instead in old wily veteran team down there in tampa mostly recruited by. Tom brady even though general manager. Jason light and bruce arians that are fantastic job of assembling that squad. A lot of people want their strictly. Because tom brady was there and all of a sudden one year later after having the most interceptions in the nfl with jameis winston and not making a place for a long time. They are now super bowl champions. The team that had internal brown join them with out a home before that the team. That had a rob gronkowski who was retired doing whatever he wanted wherever he wanted by the way he was a white tiger at one point singing dancing on the masked singer he had a job on fox for however many days he wanted to be on fox he was telling stories about how trade me to lions retire. His agent said that he's going to have a lucrative acting career if he wanted. Everybody assumed that. Tom brady leaves new england and susie gets out of there basically. I was like eddie ready. Let's go do this thing now. The t mobile commercial that they posted on their instagram. Probably the best commercial of the entire super bowl. Run their michelob. Ultra had a little bit of a run there. There was a couple of others but the fact that grunk came out of retirement to join them down there. Leonard fournette he gets cut by the jacksonville. Jaguars he goes. Down there. ryan suck up was not on the team last year. They had to bring another kicker. He joins the team. Everybody that scored last night was not on tampa. Bay buccaneers one year ago. And may somehow in the middle of this kovic where you couldn't even eat lunch at the same table figured out how to bring everybody together both the roster that was there from previous tom brady. Bt before tom and then the roster that became what it was p tom whenever he shows up they were able to come together. Congrats all the coaches down. There congrats all the players down there. And that defense somehow someway figured out how to never let the kansas city chiefs. Turn it on then. Sports single fucking touch shown in the super bowl. Patrick mahomes tyreek hill travis. Kelsey sammy watkins. Meco hartman. Clyde edwards. Allaire damian williams. I think everybody that they have on their team. Not able to score touchdowns now there's a couple of drops. Obviously patrick mahomes made a play where he was flat laying completely flat side arm. Toss hits a guy in the face gets dropped. They could scored a touchdown there. Obviously there's a couple of touchdowns i could have had. That would have helped out with the over and everything like that. But todd bowles in that defensive line made patrick mahomes run for his fucking life yesterday. Something that we've never seen before now earlier in the game the chiefs had patrick mahomes on the move. They understood that their offensive line might have been a problem because one potential tackle was not there the entire season because he's in canada fighting cova queer. Shout out dr. The rent to vernay artif- bingo pronounciation may be wrong but close enough shout to him then they get a couple of other injuries. The achilles goes on the other tackle and then the kansas city chiefs looked jason pierre. Paul who's never lost a playoff game. Unbelievable somebody tweeted. And it was fucked up and i say their name. I don't remember what it was. He's lost more. Fingers from fireworks has something to think about. Somebody said that's true. Which by the way shannon to him because he made me stop holding fireworks and potentially losing my vida. They had him at defensive end for a couple of reps yesterday. Getting pressure in dominic ensue. Never won a super bowl been around a long time. Been close never wanted. He was dominant yesterday. Shaquille barrett. Who had one of the best grills. I've seen in some time in his postgame interview. He said there was no way they were gonna let this team beat them. He said he was gonna feast or whatever basically they knew that. Going in there then leonard. Fournette says that. Tom brady was sending a text everybody all week. Hey we will win. It felt like that was on a different level than the kansas city chiefs yesterday. And you would never ever want to go in. Because the kansas city chiefs is the kansas city chiefs just like the cleveland. Browns allegedly was the cleveland browns until they beat the steelers and there were no longer the browns. The cancer chiefs is no longer to kansas city chiefs as of today. And although it's over reaction monday i mean people are saying what a patrick mahomes never makes it to super bowl. How whoa now tell you. Remers said he's going to have to win a tony tatty town known but there's a lot of pressure on patrick mahomes if everything was seeming to be like hey he's got another super bowl he he goes ahead and sleighs. The previous has been tossed. It feels like tom brady. Who in his acceptance speech last night while winning the mvp at again said his team. We knew this is going to happen right. We'll be back. He said two lines he said during that interview. That was incredible. That could be a problem for everybody. There's going to be a lot more ring. Chasers going down to tampa now no state tax great weather. That teams already won a super bowl. They'll be able to do it again. Look for people to take pay cuts to either. Stay there or there. Some of the younger guys on the team will go elsewhere because they'll have to get paid out assume but do not worry about that because other players in similar positions that are older more experience will be trying to get the tampa. Just like people will be trying to get the kansas city and hopefully do that. But let's not get crazier. I mean it's overreaction. Monday so i guess we should a little bit. The patriots got fifteen players. Coming back they go like fifteen players. Come back the steelers. They got their thing going on the colts. They potentially get a quarterback. They're going gonna be a good team. The ravens lamar jackson josh allen in the bills i mean. The afc has a lot of teams. And if this is a blueprint by the way on how you beat them in a big game. What happens to move forward. Ooh what is their legacy going to be right now. That's not for us to discuss right now for us to talk about his tom fuck and brady and tampa bay buccaneers team. In about fifteen minutes cloud. Christianson will be joining now clyde quarterback coach. Tempe buck nears. He was on with us before the super bowl. He'll be talking to us about the experience of being down there. Tom brady has never lost the super bowl with clyde christianson as his quarterback coach. People need to talk about that kim. I'll wait to chat with him. Also be talking to. Chris carter today. Boo chris carter was done at the super bowl. The i assume he was in that hall of fame sweet payton was in after he got done chatting with us. Or whatever and also shipley super bowl champion from the tampa bay buccaneers time. Thank you him garage sake you. We all said whenever you signed. Donner thought that was potentially the big move. That was going to take them over the hump. He ends a season as a coach. He wants a super bowl. I facetime him this morning. He is still fucked up for this guy. Still drunk whatever. He joins us in a couple of hours. They had quite a celebration last night as they should. I would assume what's going on at tone digs is here. Do you think accused. Probably maybe the only if not one of a handful player coaches ever to win a civil. Jackie moon one to mega-boom through right as player coach. But you're right as a player coach. I'm not sure you gotta go back. Deep i would assume blanda was potentially a player coach at one point on assume there has been have been others but player coach shipley undefeated and super bowls the book. Maybe i wonder what he was doing yesterday. Have the the earpiece in was say. Hey we should on leonard fournette. I think we're doing really well the run game and i think that's the story this tampa bay buccaneers team towards the back half of the season there whenever they started to figure it out. You gotta remember. They were seven and five at the beginning of the season. Almost seven and six. They gave they lose that game. Everybody's talking about old might not even make the playoffs here in. Nfc then they start go ahead and the offense starts changing a little bit defense starts playing well again. that's second. Half of that falcons game week. Fifteen fourteen fifteen fifteen whenever that are week. Fourteen that second half whenever he threw three hundred yards and three touchdowns that come back and win. It felt like that was really like okay. Here's the time where we start doing what we're doing when we talked to clyde just a week ago. He said that he wished they had eight more weeks. They think they have a lot more room to grow. Tom brady said that before the super bowl. He was saying that after the super bowl. He's like still think team to really become something. They're going to be good for a long time. That run game. Getting good and playoff lenny. Running people over. He said after the game that tom brady was talking about yards after contact. How they're not great at tackling leonard fournette. First time we got the ball ran a guy over and then kept running. Did that numerous times. And then he had a twenty yard scamper into the end zone where he's pulling away from people which cast in a twenty five thousand dollar parlay that i had shot and tony brown rob gronkowski. Hey heads heads definitely kicked me right in the sack and we could talk about the absolutely abysmal performance by tales refusing to show up in a big moment. Tails refused to show up yesterday. Travis kelce it goes after calls heads by the way. Maybe if we ever get a chance to chat with trump's again we talk about him. Potentially you know kind of flip it a little his way he wins at thing. Tales doesn't even show. I'll lose thirty thousand dollars for the game even started then no touchback. We start climbing a couple thousand dollar hit because we got that plus two thirty so now although we were down twenty seven thousand. We're still there is a. There's a means for celebration because the tides turning a little bit. And then once i see rob gronkowski score that first touchdown and then once i see him become a target and then i see on the one yard line. He runs a play action and throws a absolute cd antonio brown. I'm like leonard. Fournette steph league scored. Some points. Seems like gronk is rather large part of this game plan. This bucket. twenty five thousand dollars is gonna hit and this is going to be ridiculous. I thought this would hit in the chest. Would snow win. Sure turns out this hit and nothing hit on. The lot of people lost a lot of money over there. Bet on the chiefs. I ended up in down. Two thousand bucks overall not too shabby the blue gatorade. Nobody could have predicted the blue given absolutely nowhere But i mean a lot of money was lost last night but i got back in there with the stroke of god that was as it was so properly named by matter over there the tabloid parlay big name is that were brought in basically for this season showed up in the biggest game and by the way. Marquee names are marquee names because they make more p. marketplace in marquis games. Well set almost delivered. That completely clearly. Almost had one bobble there. You know what. I mean almost liberty cleanly but that's real whenever people were like. Oh i don't want to go after the big names. They're expensive or whatever it's like well. There's a reason both of those things. I understand what your philosophy is but in those biggest moments. I thought tom go to what he knows. And what does he now. Well he's got clydesdale. That has an ability of a ninja with to toilet. Seats is hands running around. That's robert gronkowski him and antonio brown what they do extra work in practice every single period every single day they say assume that in the super bowl a big moment. He's going to go there. Leonard fournette felt like he was playing great football and he was running his ass for another contract by the way which are running backs get. I mean that felt like it was easy. Still thought the we're gonna come back and win that thing. Hap- austin connor die hard patriots fan. Uc tom brady do what he did for you. Guys for so long in another city immediately upon landing there so a patriots fans taking credit for the win. Felt like you guys celebrate little credit. I'm sorry but like like hey we want we want. I mean we kind of kicked them out. Tommy foxborough fucking foxborough. Yes fell a little bit of. Hey that's one of our guys down. There was bittersweet if you will. Because you want tom to do well. I never wanted to actually win. The ball don't get me wrong because we're never going to see him in a patch uniform again my biggest fear but i did want to get seven. You know at least be happy for this guy but how you said it the patriots fifteen guys coming back next year unfortunately none of them play quarterback. So we're still fucking guys could still get carson wentz even those conversations literally by was going to go with new things because my ear holes got blown out last. We already know it's like. I'm speaking of stadium. The delay come luckily to can't do it. But carson wentz potential goes up to the patriots that turns everything around for you guys. Keep them up there or in chicago. That'll be great off. Whenever you think about that. That tampa bay buccaneer team. You see so much potential right if they're gonna play like that. I thought about this last night while was lane. Damn tom brady. Nobody says most talented quarterback everybody knows. That's aaron rodgers most quarterback of all time and then he's the winner of timer. Whatever it just over the years watching that super bowl last night you have the slaught- like oh yeah. This is just a tradition. We watch we watch old. Tommy play football in the super bowl. Find out who's the best. Like i feel like we're just taking that for granted at this point whenever you just like tom. Brady is in the hundreds of millions of people. Watch that game every single year. Okay forty six million. People watched the nfc championship. Forty seven million people watching massive k. That is absolutely massive. The entire world watches the super bowl in the only person that seems to be a constant at this point now. Is tom fucking brady. In last night. I was lying in bed and i was like there will never be another person like this. Ever the pressure that put on past momzette. Try to get that. I hope he does. It'll be awesome for our sport. It'll be awesome for league if we have somebody that can do what tom brady has done. But just becoming a tradition watching this fucking guy win the biggest game and the biggest league every single year. It's insane and i know he's lost super bowls. But he's there. He's zoomed in with two hundred million people watching one hundred and seventy people. Whatever the case is he is the league at this point. And i think it's never gonna be able to be done again. But i assume people said that you know after hulk hogan an said that after the rock and stone cold then it came along people sat after seeing a you know and who knows what's what's going to happen with said situation here but if patrick mahomes can do a tom brady does obviously incredibly impressive. But it's gonna take him. What twenty years of playing football if he wants to do this. And that's i mean that is massive. No way we'll have another tom ever. I don't think in this could be. I guess a cold day that come out in like two thousand forty or something if that happens but anybody. That's expecting moms. I don't think patrick mahomes is like okay. Eight fucking super bowls. Get twenty of them in ten. I got i gotta get the ten of them in twenty years or whatever. It's just that's going to be a tall tall task especially you know if he's gonna run in defense aligns. Try to beat the vago before. Tom came around. If you won. Four super bowls. You were the grace of all time as far as winning super bowls now. Tom's here and then romo's saying you have to win. Eight which is double what has to happen. I mean there's not a chance there's no not ever going to be somewhat successful. It's tom brady ever in any sport. That's right i'm joking. I'm joking brady jordan. I mean yeah serena though. She won every tournament. I think for fifteen years straight. I mean i'm not a big tennis guy. Obviously but i do remember being for a solid decade. Or so. Where it was like serena one another and then tiger obviously had that run of dominance ederer veteran federer. Yeah they all that type of thing but the team sport aspect of it the biggest league you know what. I mean the parody. That's supposed to happen because of the way the league is run with drafts and salary caps. Everything like that. It's unbelievable ryan clark called his own organization. Morning visas own. The organization of tom brady onto how it's only one year out of new england. Obviously but him already having success in seeming to have that team ready to go for until he wants to. Retire is unbelievable tie. Schmidt is here as well. Aaron rodgers wins. Mvp this weekend. We will talk about that because you know it was an awesome run with him this year. It really was and who would have thought that the nfc championship was actually the super bowl. I mean you know it pretty much was no one will say that. But i'll tell you what i don't know if the packers would have laid an egg like that against the the box have given the opportunity in the super bowl c. Championship was a hell of a game last night. Not so much zito's year. We'll talk to him about the poll but joining us now. Fresh off of his second super bowl dub ladies and gentlemen quarterback coach with tampa bay buccaneers front of the show. Clyde chris i don't know fresh is the right word but here as i was last night. What an unbelievable time clyde. What an unbelievable time. Last night i would assume much like every coach and every team in every game. You were very confident going in there but as that night was unfold in. What was the thoughts going through your head. That guy who's been to three super bowls now one to been around football forever at this. Point are special the day to be in tampa bay. I'll tell you that it was a heck of a night and Knew something something was in the air every once in a while. tom gets overlooked. Sometimes i have a look at my three year old grandson. You're scaring me in september. Tom gives them looking. He scares me. And i get out of the way he had that look last night so that that was one of those nights for you just. It was a resolve in his eyes. It was unbelievable. I was ruining really scares me. Get away from him. Well okay so. Let's talk about that. And i hear the grandkids in the back by the way. I hope everybody is celebrating. Hey grandpa did it. They're celebrating their even. Though you look like you could be a father to very young. Shout at this point because of the incredible moisturizing. I think you've done throughout your. Let's talk about what was happening. They didn't talk about it on show. Tom brady goes to the sideline. He's yelling at the sideline. No something like that. Was that a call a play call a what was what was he yelling about. We didn't get much talk about that on the broadcast. Or afterwards yeah. I don't know exactly he. You know he just he wants everyone on edge and he thinks if there's one little laughs you know and just we blew a couple of opportunities in that thing early. Wanna make sure that then keep happening and you know he's he's been enough only knows how they go and he just kind of has a feel for how though and feels like hey. We missed on that goal. They had to go live stand and give them a giveaway. Some points right there. So he'll he'll he'll get after some folks just in a positive way but but You know he even knows how these games go and he knows it can slip away fast. How on the offensive side. I had a parlay that hits gronkowski touchdown antonio brown touchdown leonard for net touchdown gronk over receiving yards. Okay so bad. Hit for twenty five thousand dollars coach night last night. You had a great night last night. Obviously i hit for twenty five grand there after losing thirty thousand on the coin. Toss but whenever you whenever you see. This is your first year. I think around gronk. In around antonio and leonard fournette in the guys that kind of got added to this buccaneers squad. Because you were there last year. With a and jameson everybody. What was it like kind of watching this team. Form with the new guys coming in out of retirement. Some guys out of a lot of question. Leonard fournette just got. What was it like watching that offense. Come together in this crazy. Covert protocol time. It was really cool and it was cool to watch tom work. Because that's where it all falls. And all of a sudden you put new pieces in the huddle and that can make some quarterbacks get all jittery and uncomfortable and out of their comfort zone this guy this guy pulls a man takes him under his arm live at as house ate at his house is in their ear and he just does a masterful job. I've told you before on the show. Rock is like his little brother. I mean they are unbelievable but how he took eighty and four ned and some of those other guys and just said you know. Hey you're part of this team. Yuri your key part of this senior. There's going to be a point where you have to win. Some of these games for net came up big in the playoffs and ab big in the playoffs and had another one last night. And you know that's what he does a great job of where you know the average quarterback kind of don't change anything right now. He's get another piece in. You're getting another piece in here. this. I'll find a way that we'll get some production of this guy and so i was laughing this more we're talking about. Ap and ap on his touchdown catch was supposed to go down in in in in pop. Back out egos out in pops back in and you know. I'm kind of going through the w- did he run the right route. Did he just do opposite of what he was supposed to do. And we hit it for a touchdown and that was the case for doesn't get thrown for a loop. He just the guy. Hey you get open. I'll hit shoot. And that's where he's pretty darn unique quarterbacks. He's supposed to do this. A to b to see this guy. Hey you know. Ab goes see to f back for a touchdown in the it was unbelievable. One funny story from our last quarterback meeting in unofficial. Don't get it but we walk in and he in talking about your betting but brady was talking about he goes. Hey i've got an idea. Here's a half yard over under for me rushing for happy yard in a super bowl. Here's what i'm saying. We put in one million dollars in the first time there in two three techniques. I'm gonna gain sick for the rest of the way and we're going to fund our offseason. All i go. You can't can't he. Goes i promise you if we have a million on. I will not give sack. We will not lose because we didn't do it. Fyi for the record Irs joke just a joke with a. He was funny because he knew too. There's a there's an over under for you rushing a happy yard and super bowl. Quarterbacks all talked about hey we may all throw some money in there and the sterckele vacation or something. There was like thousands of bets. I'm sure we could bet somewhere on how you would be wearing your mask if like deepen if you look deep enough there was betting on everything because you know last game of the season and for you. It's always tough. Whenever you have the last game of the year you know socially obviously for a guy who's been in a game this long you have a lot of feelings for your players in care for each other and you know season ends. You don't know what the teams going to look like next year. You have no idea who's going to be back. You have no clue tom during his speech last night said we'll be back. I think is what he said we will be back or whatever and then he told the group. We all knew this was going to happen right. We all knew this is going to happen that type of thing. What are your thoughts going forward. It seems like you guys are only going to get better. I think so You know what we pay tap wise and stuff we've got some neat pieces of. Tom holds together a little bit. Because guys wanna play with him and you. You don't know how many years he's got he's going to keep going man. You get a chance to play with them and we get a lot of all of a sudden he comes and we get gronk in abc and some of these for net. And you know people wanna play with those guys and it was the same effect in with peyton and In indy they wanna play with the legendary and not to mention to go. Get him the ball. If you're still guy and give them a chance to to put some numbers so. I think we'll hold this thing together. The it'll never be the same. The latest thing set up. I think that's one of the sad parts that you know. That is the last game for that team as team. I mean there's going to be changes are asked to be and for i. You know when you get his oldest me's not you know it's way not about me. It's just to watch those guys to watch for net. Come out and have a great super ella. That was rate. Hug a be. Just see him. You know that there's a guy who maybe things weren't going quite the way he had drawn up and you know now to come in. And just have those touchdown catches down the stretch and you just have fun playing football at a special stuff. And you've been there that that that's that's really. That's that's a special couple hours. You know couple hours after that game when you just are huggins and mailman. It's cool really cool long night last night. Club where you can house and some diet cokes. Last night you know yeah. We went hard. I'm come out a little bit. Said she knew but you never know his turned into party. The smartest we went straight from downtown to a pool party with the grandkids so personal. I'm versus the range. The range that you have leonard for net talked about you know. Tom texted amal texted team a week. We will win or something like that. hundred percent. Sure if that's accurate or not. You can clear that up but also is somebody last night i forget who it was. I think it was shaky baird said. Tom spoke to the team before the game was that the hotel was what was that. Oh thing and has this been like a a very interesting thing to watch. Tom like watch him operate and see like why. Tom is tom here absolutely and i think you know. I don't think he even ever had a doubt. I think shared last time. We played so bad that opening game and he gets on a bus goes. Hey i know exactly what we gotta do like. He just has that. A short be has at saint. Swag that you know. I don't think there was ever a doubt that we weren't going to make the super bowl and linda thing in You know i was. I was centered on. She's i don't know if we'll be five hundred if we don't get playing better in the but those those guys he just he just sees it and and just has a great feel for it and so he gave a heck of a talk before the game to the team and just talked about. You know what you get to this point to win this thing and you know. This team will always be this team. That won a super bowl together. You and i share that you know like just when you do things special together this life and that's what's great about our sport. That's why i think that's what's in coaching for forty three years manda to i don't know where you get them. I don't know. I don't know that state farm agent has that same feeling for his fellow workers. You just you just you know not to knock state farm agents for saying there's nothing like that locker room and there's nothing like a bunch of men in total joy and just achieve something together. It's it's it's i don't know where else you find it. I couldn't find it anywhere else. That's life than what i've done for for all these years and get such a kick out of seeing guys be successful and have a bonding in really really joint. You would sell so much insurance. All you'd be racking up money forever in that insurance game. I know coaches great. Hey coaches gray. You would be great starting next week. I'll be fighting for my life again for the next year. So you know. I may be sewing life insurance for coast. That's always a reality realities over. You know the more relationships your staff i may. I'll be in the studio. They're trended celso couple term policies right now when. Enjoy this one for at least a week or two you should i. You deserve it. The tom talk to the team before the game is that does does he tell be. That does get a feel for that. It was like how does that. Is it organically happening. Does he stand up and just start talking like. How's it work. Here's the genius of be a organically happens. Lets people be themselves. I drive the average coach crazy. He's good with it's just who they are. They all have such different personalities. I think andy reid has that same quality that he lets those guys be who they are in. If you know. He trust tom to the max. You know so thomas. Hey okay coach good. Hey everyone else up in here is you know. Let me talk to the team. For second coaches all kind of rolled out of there and kinda hitting a quarter to year. What he does but but he. Yeah so so be as great with. That's where he's that's where he really is a genus and he doesn't get rattled by the little things that maybe some coaches would include me. Throw them all off track and get us out of our lane you know. He's he's phenomenal that way. Well as soon as he got the trophy. He said this role coaches and players. I didn't do a damn thing. It was it was a hell of a speech and why. Ba go head coach. I'm assuming with tom it. He makes it kind of impossible for it to happen. But how do you keep the team in the third quarter when you guys are the game is basically over. How do you make sure these guys keep their foot on the gas. And don't let a team like the chiefs crawl back into it. Who's wearing a patriots. Yeah yeah. He loves tom though they are. That's what you don't have to worry about that with tom. Brady leaders have to worry about the third quarter. Because he's not going to let that. He's not letting them take the foot off the gas into the guy just like that as a and b b as the guy at halftime at halftime drive. Like i'm old school. You know coach by the numbers. Be as hey. Let's go try and swore got fourteen. I won't. Let's just sit on this thing. We got a lead. Let's go you know these last two games. You seem to really genius drives by. Va where the average guy just sits on the clock out and goes in for with elated. We get the touchdown and green bay. We get we go on a heck of a long drive right. There was unbelievable. And i think that's where it just keeps his foot on the pedal and you know. Sometimes i'm trying to get your foot off. The pedal always take a shot at four hundred and just read some more clock. And i think the other thing you know. That is so good. That i don't think at any point all the way till the very end do you literally. You're just scared to death that this guy is for three touched off so quick ymca super bowl trophy right out of your hands and so i think the opponent kept us kept us go and this is kind of been not just an aggressive aggressive. Just keep playing team like we. You know we only have one speed we go just go and we we. I think that's been kind of be as mantra on signature and this kind of been that. Brady's kind of optimised brains been more of a you know hey by. The numbers are checked as play football. Exactly the proper way and all of a sudden. Now you know we're we're on two minute drives and maybe you should be set not you know and so i think it's really i think he's been a good moment on the bench at halftime you. No one's gonna accuse us being tight or not aggressive. That isn't happening. And this is a loosey goosey function. We go hard and play hard. And i think that's a direct reflection of. Tom showed up wearing white pants and incredible tan jacket. I mean it was just like all right here we go. This guy is a walking rock star in. I think one of the weird things to your point about you guys. Being scared to death it was like three minutes left in the game and they were shooting tom on the sideline and he was game and then somebody said sign. It was buying left which and he started to smile. It was like whoa like. Is tom enjoying this right now. 'cause normally tom would be yelling about the kneel down. Okay let's go. We're doing his own thing. It felt like it wasn't until there was like three minutes two minutes. Guess up twenty two at this point. It felt like it wasn't until then was it all. Go back to your point about the a stepping on throats whenever he was up for the chicago bears job and he didn't get the job and then he went to arizona and they played against the bears and then in the second half they were up twenty one or something get through. I think it was like fifteen straight deep balls on something that that is bruce arians. He's he won't play baby. let's go let's go ahead and play digs. What are your golf course. I mean he is. He's gonna bring the whole he's gonna crash and burn burn. Triple that he is. He's a blast to play golf with his life. That's exactly how he lives open. That's how he golfs. That's our coaches football. That's how he lives. That's how he is in relationships. You know he's all in man. He's a loyal. i think. That's what you gotta look at. That team was. We were together at eighty. Two half our staff was together at eighty two and temple. Todd bowles kevin ross. keith armstrong. Me nick repulsed. Coaching attempt one eighty two together in the inner city of philadelphia. Just having a blast we were all twenty five and and Just getting into coaching he just come from bear bryant staff and you know todd bowles told a story this week. Are you really thought. He was trying to kill. Some people like literally old school you off a plane of a loss. Okay get into the field. We're going out and practicing right now. The index oh. That's that's kind of deal but man you talk about you know loyalty you know you put bruce arians know loyalty of wrestling like those are things. That's just who he is. And pretty darn special code. You talked about trying to enjoy for a week or two. However tom said last week that the new season begins directly after bony. Things next year is going to be better. So have you cleared with tom. Your vacation time yet. Yeah what are you doing you hiding the phone. Well let me just say this. I had a big package of a tb twelve vitamins dietary supplements and stuff on my today. So i told you last week. It's not gonna be a pleasant off season buttocks whatever he's doing. I'm taking that sucker it for forty three. You start trying to find someone who accomplish very much at in their forties and it doesn't happen in the nfl and especially at quarterback just doesn't happen rare ground. I'll give you a great story so last night. You know if you've been in these like all of a sudden horn goes off and families are coming down and people were flooding the field and they're putting up you know the stage etc. So i never see tom. I never saw tom. After the game. I i never saw him and i had my granddaughter down there and i'm trying to get her around and get her to the right spot so i didn't end up seeing ben whatever time three thirty or four this morning chicago. You know. i'll get my moment with him. And just you know in the end in all of a sudden at about seven forty five i get a facetime call and i'm i'm literally just getting sleep out of my eye. And he's laying there relaxing. You just you know. It's tom and he just goes coach. I didn't find your last night. I didn't get a chance to tell you how much i've appreciated you and your work in this year in their there is facetime me at eight o'clock in the morning seven thirty in the morning first thing. And that's who he is. That's that's who the guy is and he's talking to my grandkids. They're all crawling all over the thing and he's talking to all the grandkids and just laying there relaxing after with ten trillion things on his plate to do today eat picks up the phone. Just make sure that a coach appreciate you and man la la la on a heck of a year. We add together. We appreciate you too man. I appreciate you guys. I can't think of a better place to go. Have fun and celebrate after a super bowl in this show. Hey come on here clyde. Hey you want a couple more super bowls you come on ear anytime you want. Congratulations i appreciate you. Late quarterback coach for tampa bay buccaneers super bowl champion. For the second time clijsters. He's best of quit story. He doesn't doing anything with them to. You'll bring something up. You'll mentioned something. Like oh good story talking about. He's talking about coaching in the eighties. Or whatever has been around a long time any coach right. He has a connection with any player. Basically was telling me the last time Whenever the nfc championship game whenever they were in lambo or whatever q. And clyde were sitting on the bench before the game or whatever in cloud would go. We have great battles up here. Reggie white took tampa used to be the same divisions green bay. I used to come up here every single year. It was a bad cold. He's just like at quarterback coach which is where he's kind of made his entire career. He's been offense coordinator a couple of times but he really finds his groove at that position coach level. Where it's like you can still be because he can go fight for tom in the meetings as opposed to like the offensive coordinator who asked to kind of Kind of talk. Everybody's talking down for tom but the offense coordinator and head coach right. They're kind of like the ones are supposed to be in charge of the position. Room quarterback coach. He's always been like the ally of if the quarterback wants something changed clydes job is to help that happen but attack from a different angle because so he's always been allies with basically all of his players so it's always just like he has stories for dc gets along with everybody fucking. Og in this football thing. I love that man. Maimonides going through four practices on saturday. Me have place him holding college and then just two get the number to go ahead. This will be bribe. Go ahead go ducks. Please ducks sure. Good good good. I think we do a play. i don't know obviously. He had no control over that right. It was his job. Him and frank reich job to get ready for that but then hyping me up. Clyde hyping me up first plane. We're gonna do they gonna think they're gonna think we're running out. What are you gonna do. You're gonna throw that y y down sixty seventy yards. I see it. He's just always upbeat. Always positive i got a chance to play on a football team in the nfl. That happened to have a guy playing quarterback that one into the hall of fame just last night officially a man who walked through a casino in told me. Hey how about that. Read eighteen and then walked off. Improved to me that this guy is potentially a time traveler. A man that outworked every single human. I've ever seen in my life was way too. Nice to me was a quarterback in two different cities winning super bowls for both ladies and gentlemen the name synonymous with the game of football in the league that it is joining us. Now peyton manning you say you with me everywhere with that kind of introduction. I want to hear that again. Well i don't know. I don't know if i could run it back or not. You deserve it. I've always told people you were incredibly nice to meet nice to me. There was no reason for you to be as nice as you were to me and you were like that with everybody and i heard you talking to jeff saturday last night that the team was the biggest thing for you. What was it about football. You think that made you just fall in love like in play forever and dedicate your entire life to it pageants that just the team aspect of it. team sports. You know you got guys to help you if you're having a tough day and you can help them. If there may be struggling for sitting on the bus sir. Right here. I got calvin johnson. Al fanta john lynch charles. Woodson drew pearce center on the bus. Is this but that's all we've been talking about. Is is teammates Like yourself memories. The locker room talks the plane rides. That was the best part about it. I mean the the football plan was great but it was just that he didn't have those friendships and memories. That you may with those guys that you were working hard with the equipment managers all of it all matter to may and i. It's been fun kinda going down memory lane. He's past couple of days. Well i appreciate you joining us especially for more. You're joining us at right now. Because we'll just say that the entire hall of fame class of two thousand twenty was on the they've coughed in the background. I heard them. I heard him back there. Taking a trip down memory lane. I'm sure it was awesome. Your relationship with jim mercy is one. That's very fascinating to me. Because whenever he made the decision they made the decision to move on and you go out to denver and the press conference happens and everything like that. Our world changed drastically back in indianapolis by the way. I don't know if you heard or not. But everything changed drastically back there. Then you go on. You have great success a denver. And now i just saw a picture of you getting out of i think a seven fifty seven that was from jimmer. Say what was that and have you ever been in that plane before it was it was. I thought it was like a team plane. The spy all of the indianapolis literally. I mean it's got the local on it Pat and it was awesome. But that's just jim bad. I had wonderful fourteen years. There is obviously a team that i wanted to play for always things happen. I got injured. scope cold. Skip the first round. Pick to be bitter and to be frustrated. It's like it ruined everything you work for those fourteen years so jim marseille drafted me. He always had my back. And so I understood that the the decision he had to make no hard feelings for him to send his plane to fly me and my son down here. as a great great gesture. Lot of room me and marsh. We were throwing the football pretty pretty pretty cool experience. Pretty cool father son weekend. Yeah i could fathom. And i'm happy you're enjoying fatherhood and i think that's something that i'm not a hundred percent. Sure if i ever talked to you about. But i think the world by the way as he's moving from event event now best dude. Where are you headed right now. Going to the game latched fairly these guys in the background. How you congratulations adam. Voice all right peyton whole. Hey as marshall. I hope you enjoyed that plane pal last thing here you talk into tom. Brady you becoming friends with him. I was interesting to watch. All you take the photo. We will wrap this up you talking to tom brady. How much does that happen did you. Clyde christianson yourself in. Tom have a condo before he went to tampa. How is that transition. And do you feel like you're one of the only people he can talk to about his entire experience in the nfl. I'll tell you pat. Anybody can do what tom is. Don look i know how hard it was for me to get on the same page with my receivers florida. New system learn new coaches. But i had a full off season i was injured. I was rehabbing. The fact that thomas done this and a pandemic offseason no time to meet with his receiver i. He met with his coaches Illegally by breaking into buyer. Eleven off so besides that is incredible. What he's been able to accomplish and He deserves all the credit his leadership is. What put the box in this game today. And i have great respect for him. Because i know how hard it is but he deserves all credit. Hey how did you read. Eighteen was coming pat. I mean. I i can't tell you. How much appreciate you telling that story. And and just growing the legend that was about the eighteenth time. I tried it. Heating going into the you know when it hit you. Just keep walking. Nobody ever really tells you about it so when it gets hours is surprised as you are and the reaction from some of the some of the good old folks there. I was pretty special. Well i appreciate you doing that. You made me and those folks in the casino. A bunch of money congrats on the hall of fame nod. Thank you for spending time. Enjoy yourself at the game. Peyton likes pal appreciate you the the sheriff hall of famer payton off. I want to let you know that. Valentine's day is coming up and for a lot of guys that can mean added pressure to perform luckily with roman. You can relax whether you're dealing with a d. or you're more concerned about lasting longer in a sack. Romans got you covered for a limited time. Roman special offers to make sure you're ready for valentine's day. Get up dina. Thirty five dollars off your first month of treatment. Start supposed to be read. That's sweet clip not slash. Usa get room dot com slash usa. To get started. 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We're not going to post that. Obviously but the guy's name is it is the names underscore woody so the actual underscore and then what he then names under underscore woody with a wire. Iii with a y. c. H. year shits in this guy's this guy has your shit picture of and it's it would it would not be. We were not be doing the world a favorite sounds like it's probably not real but the pictures are pretty damning. This guy wants to give you back. Your stuff hopefully doesn't rip you off in this whole thing at the names. Underscore woody assuming. He works at the airport by the guests. Hopefully hopefully is it going through bags. True what he might be a scumbag what he also potential hero in this thing. If you need a bag and get that between the back out assume this man is needing a bag to potentially puke in more. Maybe a bag to of water you know to to chug don. I would assume he had a very long night when i talked to earlier. It seemed like he was still in the middle of the celebration even though he had just woken up alongside. Aj hawk ladies and gentlemen super bowl champion player and coach kyushu boys. How's it feel to be a super bowl champs. Looks like there's only two of us here cnn. oh man. Congrats congrats congrats. Thanks for allowing me on this super bowl conversation with you to that is very very nice of you now. Interesting conversation to be had about that though whenever you became a free agent and we saw what was going on down in tampa bay. I thought about getting back in shape and going and trying to kick down there conversations with you you were trying to get down there if felt like everybody that has ever been around. Be a wide or tom or everybody kind of knew what was going to happen down there here. We are months later. You signed down there. As a veteran that was in free agency backup center play some games bruiser spine start coaching network super bowl champ. This has to feel pretty good for it to come to fruition. The way you thought it was potentially going to man couldn't be better. I mean we talked about this. You know that i mean. I tried to get down there as soon as tom went down. There just like a lot of other guys around the sleep to try to get my voice sounds. I'm still bunged up by. But god i mean it it was. It was so fun to be a part of. I mean you know you sit. There were seven and five. And it's like man we gotta get the same role in and then you realize what is it nine or ten in a row. I mean it was it was. It was an incredible thing to be a part of his incredible to watch this thing roll. And i think i listen to your show. The other day hurt clyde christians and say this who by the way on the show earlier i think He said we need another eight games to play our best foot one. I think he's probably right. And we were just getting better and better and better and better and tom just kept getting more comfortable and kind of putting his own nuances on this thing and Last night was thing beauty and can't say enough about our defense to played out of their minds and to limit that team and that offense and how talented they are. Two zero touchdowns was a thing of beauty to watch a queue. You know obviously firsthand. Mike how tough it is to block up teams that are rushing the passer so well and what you were able to do with the bucks. A twist and games and stunts and everything. How tough is that. Because we know the kansas city was kind of patchwork together with injuries. Like if you're not that experience together how tough is it to block so hard. I mean the lines pride. The those five guys have to be in unison. And it's so it's so crazy to think like okay. You just pull one guy out and you're so used to playing with the guy for ten twelve weeks and this new guy that's an plays just a little different steps a little different and you're expecting him to do something. Maybe a little different again like you said on twists pass off stones are doing things like that and it may be completely different than what you're what you've been used to all year so credits. Our defense credited coach bowls putting everything together. And i mean they just they with four all night. It was awesome. I mean they're able to just sit back seven gaza coverage and Vida having him back the last two weeks pay leave as a player. He's unbelievable. I mean. I've gotta go against him since the minute i got here. I mean he's three hundred and seventy five towns and as athletic guy as anybody. That's three hundred even to ninety. I mean he's he's such a good player and he made such a difference in key contribution last couple of weeks haven't even in there. Was your coaching style. Going into super bowl. Keep the boys loose out. There you know as player coach you know what was your style going in there at release. It was awesome. I mean you could. You could see it. I mean i. I called you. What early week two weeks. We're going to beat these guys up. I mean that was the feeling like around this place. It was it was awesome. I mean the guys released it with swag the confidence i mean they. Everybody on this team in this locker room could feel this thing coming in. It was awesome awesome. Be part of they. Were just ready to get this thing. Rolling. i mean by like wednesday. Thursday second week it was like mink. We just get to the game. We're ready to go. Hey people are taking pay cuts are offering up to take pay cuts already to keep the roster around now that you're going to be a highly sought after coach. Are you willing to get paid nothing to be a part of that team. Still you wanna go on the record. Say he'll take no money at all. Because you just want to be a good coach for the team. I won't say that. But i do know that getting into coach. It looks like i'm gonna have to quite a bit a were you able to relax it all before the final seconds ticked off and just wondering was there a moment in the fourth quarter where he said okay. I'm going to be a super bowl champ. There was a moment. I think whenever you know i think we got the ball. Maybe backed up on our own. Tanner so and we ran the ball. Maybe nine or ten plays in a row. We ended up putting it like midfield had a great pond down inside the ten but that point where we ran the ball on two first down one to first down one two and you take six seven minutes off the clock and now you look up whatever seven and a half eight minutes left in the game and you're up by three scores. It's like this is about to happen. Is about that so i mean that was. That was a pretty cool moment. Then once it around four or five minutes. I mean got start seeing guys talking to each other on the sideline it was it was it was real. It was awesome. Any talk about the offense aside the ball there as the season went on. Obviously you went from being player to being coach. You're seeing all angles of that offense being developed. Whether it's tom introducing more stuff to be a or b a introducing a more like. Hey we're going to go for it type mentality into tom the evolution of that offense if you guys did have another eight weeks what do you think would continue to add to it. Why do you think it started gelling late from your particular viewpoint on the whole thing. Why did it start going. I think just the more and more comfortable on god that was it. I mean honestly. I mean it was the other guys. Were comfortable with stuff more and more comfortable he got. I mean you can look back at all of the years. Be as coached quarterbacks. In year one in his system they've struggled a little bit thrown more interceptions. Tom did not you know he was willing to not try to force things but it's just he had just keep getting more and more comfortable with things than when he did. I mean now the short up he had answers for every having espn his heart. Rows versus bliss. He has sight adjustments versus personal z. Ed covers zero protection. Pickups i mean he had everything dialed in from the last. Half of the season had an answer for everything you know when he's played the game as long as he has he seen every defense he's seen every single defense. There is the throw adam and so you know he sees this knows who can cover based on rotation and things like that and then it's like okay. These guys have have an option to come so we're just going to pick these guys up and dice them up and that's last year. You're saying the big reason why people struggle is because even if you're the smart carson palmer struggled in this and he's known to be a cerebral quarterback jameis winston threw for a lot of yards. But he struggled in that offense. I think ben rothlisberger potentially everybody turns the ball over. It's not because they can't learn the system it's because they haven't been through the system with anything popping off out of the ordinary right like for instance in practice you practice a play. You might know this play inside now because you're an incredibly smart but if they show you something that you haven't seen again this particular play you don't know which options the best option. Is that what you're saying. They're in a much easier if so many different nuances within each route right. It's it's you know everything looks great on paper like okay. Cool versus this coverage. We're going to do this right. And then what happens. Then when they're showing cover too and the role into cover three on the snap then you're route and every every single Situation changes on the fly right. That it's just like being an offense alignments. Oh yes great. I can pick everything up whenever i see it on paper. But then you get live bullets. Flying plan the packers. Aj's run into sam mike blitz and it's like okay now instead of just having the clean lines to owed you got this to that guides now. Now everything's moving and now everything's completely different. So seeing live bullets in this system is completely different than going through training camp. We're going through it. In the i seventy eight weeks of the season and now you get ten twelve weeks in and you know you've seen it and things are all. Did you ever get in on. I don't think i would not take a cue on head to head i'm trying to. I'm trying to shop and get by you if you make a move to the outside. I'm probably missing and also short arms. So cool guess. What super bowl champs q. Clyde christensen was on earlier and i was watching pat. And he said it's so funny how aby possibly ran the wrong route. On his touchdown he basically saying to say. This is how good tom is. Were in the red zone. As in the end zone he can adjust on the fly. Like have you ever seen anyone else able to do that. Especially the biggest stage. i mean. It's so impressive. I mean just him being able to count just react right. I mean i think that's the biggest thing he never gets philosophy and the biggest stage. We need a touchdown. And it's just kinda you may be expecting some out route and you know these guys are just kind of ad lib and because honey badgers playing to the outside and boom kind of gives the outside back in and balls right on the money loan away. We're only he can catch it visit. I mean they know it's it's it's incredible. He's been so impressive to watch all year and watch him grow within this system. You always knew how great he was just from. Obviously six super bowls and you know just winning and winning and winning and winning and then to watch him just continue to grow throughout this whole thing and put a stamp on this i mean. He's he's the best guys. Do just dive avocado ice cream. Last night is that what. Your voice sucks today. I i had more beers more whisky. Tequila head is pounding. What do why don't start this wrestling. Promo code if you have a me know when you're done. The the hoover formed the after party last night. Who was everybody having a good time. Every i've never been a part of a super bowl champion party. Okay so they. The film in who performed was everybody having a great time. How was it. Were you dancing chugging talking. What was your role in. The entire thing is player coach. Here it was awesome at drake and migos a drake in migos guy as you could tell more of a five finger. Death punch guy. Didn't think they were going to be performed would death. That's exactly right now. It was awesome. I mean it was guys. Were just having a good time. Everybody's upto wee hours of the morning. I'm walking around tampa just trying to find bottles of water everywhere. I already and hasn't been successful voiced destroy. I don't is going. I don't think it's ever gonna come back probably not. That'd be good little scar to have for the rest of your life after super bowl. I'm happy to hear you guys. Were all wearing masks at that party. That digs what you got thank you. So where does it go from here did brady bill gates yacht and you guys meet their lady later today. Go straight at tom's house. What's the next move in the celebration. Smart to grasp by the way thanks I don't know what the next move is. I think they're trying to work out the fact that if they can do a parade kobe protocols. Didn't somebody say thought it didn't even remember that jiangsu zona. I don't know if it's still always. And eric the guy just let i mean there's letting it open the act like it doesn't put things are things. A real thing is really. Put a damper on our parade. You guys need those buses like the tampa bay. Lightning drive through the town trying to work out there trying to be safe and responsible but still let us kind of get her glory. I hope they do the whole little boat. Taxis that's footage for. That's earlier in the year. Talked by the way podcast. That comes out of this between the shipley. Who's a super bowl champion. Also an incredible hockey aficionado loves chocolate. Hey by the way to get back to work on the podcast on talking disarm when we start back up. It's already started dude. Shows begun are five episodes in. I was busy. Have you been on. Because i think you're the reason the penguins stink all. Maybe it's foxy. It's probably fox nick. Luckily i know it's not that i just want to say congrats sake you Been saying for a long time. I do believe karma is dead because you are pretty terrible person and you keep having all these great things happen to you. So congrats appreciate that. Would you say we're clapping. I didn't hear it. I said i appreciate them giving me a complement of being a terrible person. But thank you did you. Aj play against each other. A big ten football. I think we missed each other zero five five season. Oh six bowl game. Yeah yeah. I i was a redshirt. I think that year. And i've never heard of that. We had a big win against you guys at your though tombola with the sack fumble. Choice smith right. Now you're going to memory menu you. I doubt you've had any concussions. Either that's right. We got beat. There was a whiteout enough doesn't exist. Aj okay aj. You stared that man rate that face that he has right there in although nobody thought five finger death grip you knew that he was a person that would not claim to ever have a concussion. Just looking right at that face ever spine. Spinal cord almost broke. Broken half and i try to go back in the game. Hey russ bo kind of guy. We appreciate your congratulations man. I'm happy for you. Always blessed boys. Are you gonna be drunk now. Just for the next seventy two hours or so. Start start backup. Keep this thing rolling right now. Frenchtown right brunch. Almost three it's somewhere. Sounds like brunch. I'll see you cut traded signed. He was. I think he was selling some tires at one point during his nfl career because he wasn't even on a practice squad for a bit now. Sukhpal champ drunk walking around tampa bay with no cd at all. Where was he. He wasn't as house. I think he was outside of his condo. His he has two kids obviously a baby and then is other and she is awesome. Great personality anytime you facetime. She will come in. I wish he would have gave her a little showtime. I assume he's bad dad of the year right now though he's still drunk at two twenty and he is. He's not doing a lot of parenting as we speak at this moment. Who do you think makes the call if they can have the parade or not with the nfl step in and say hey. This isn't safe. it's not for. I don't think there's much as the players safety. They could spread them out. They don't wanna giant crowd of people jamming. Their assuming governor says fucking run it past do what you gotta do. Florida's wide open. Think about the masks. They'll say for sure we were down there in orlando for Wargames down there right next door. Our hotel i mean it was a block party and there was a whole christmas celebration. It was the whole it was wide open. And then we flew back indiana. It's like you cannot get coffee between eleven in one close masks pretty different views on this whole thing but yeah i would assume that the they have to protect people from themselves you know so probably have them maybe drive around the entire city on the back of the talk down there. You know day guys. You sit on top of those big double decker buses or those duck boats. He kind of drive around with people in their condos and houses just wave you know how firemen used to our santa claus used to come on the back of the fire truck around town what. The buccaneers are going to do around tampa for eight hours. They're just gonna drive through neighborhoods and everything and they'll just come out in the front. Hey growl you know slamming. That's what they'll do. That's what the parade should be sweet to see someone like the sixty seven floor throwing a beer out gronk awesome. Did you guys have. I mean it was negative. Five hundred degrees we. We were in the stadium. We walked a lap around. The stadium had a little stage setup. Nothing at all What celebrations are like. Now i mean these guys are having a bunch of fun. I know last year especially starting off with her. A car chase swept under the rug really kicked off. The casey prayed he high speed chase right down. The parade route is something that you're right. It did get swept under the rug because of how intoxicated everybody got in the incredible moments that happened in there. That high speed chase to flat tires on that car. But i just kept on going straight out of a movie scene in. They're like no no. No this is. This is not people. I thought it was fake. I thought it was like cirque du soleil show where they're doing something while you come into the theater. They have a a mime clown rolling around in a bubble thing. And it's like oh this is like the pre show. This is a pre show thing. No no i really go to jail forever would have been awesome of kelsey. Popped out of that car. Would like to be a part of that. Maybe i start putting bowls ago you and vinnie head down. One more year even told us yesterday. He's playing by the way really pretty much. Yeah he was like you know. My plan was to work. See if i get back. And i didn't feel like i could do that in the now at the point where i think i could. Basically what he said. So the terry's forty eight years old. He said he might take two years off. And then come back when he's fifty and just kicking half just say you could do it. Was he rehab. Something was not healthier. What had knee surgery. That last year he played bang. I think he was hurting. Pretty bad hip thing to hip knee. A lot of things going on but top brand new ones put in areas like. Let's put the dust off a little bit where we've got some brand new fucking vehicles down here. What if he comes back. You'll go kick down there in tampa ryan suck up. It's a fifty two yard ball last night for mr relevant to super bowl. Champion congrats the ryan. Suck up kicker for him. He was also not on the team last year. He was on the titans i believe. And then now he's a super bowl champion I don't know what his contract status is. But i do know if viteri goes and makes some. 'cause i believe he will get at least a workout if he wanted think if he if he wanted one. At this point i would think so Tampa special teams coach keith. Armstrong due to stutter. He was in atlanta before the guys i think he's an unbelievable coach. I learned a couple of months ago that he didn't know he was in tampa but yeah. Ba knows how to hire men. Todd bowles dc byron in this guy keith armstrong. No one talks about special teams coordinator but this guy's legit. He's he's the real deal. They i never really talks about punters. Either until you have like a twenty five yard zone man just out of sorts. I i was like man. It's one of those nights. One of those days for kansas city now. Tampa bay forced them into that. But that's how it happened. Eight tampa bay never let up either but man there we said what what everybody you can get format pressure and you can change the game. But i don't think anyone anticipated how much they could truly change that entire game. Though we i mean. I might be the only one. I thought this was like kansas city going to go. Hey kansas city is going to go at some point and then dive a lot of time left in the fourth quarter. Thirteen minutes left dive. Sidearm throw hits students face normally in real life catches normally chief. Catch that touchdown. Patrick mahomes is doing the entire this thing all of a sudden. They're davigo for two now. They're down to scores. It's like okay here. We go now. We have the game and then instead there's a couple of drops never happens. Blow out twenty two points. Tom brady tampa. Bay buccaneers super bowl champs. It did not pan out how any of us thought that in by the way the game might have not lived up to hype expectations. Anytime the under hits. Normally that's the case by the way like what happened. Last night still enjoyed the fuck out of the game. And i'm very bummed that we don't have any more game. Tell dwayne the xfl has got to get going. They've been working hard. Anybody allegedly. I heard a thing joining us. Now is a man who i believe was at the super bowl. A guy who's bring covering the nfl for like twenty years at this point hall of fame player. Absolute stud friend of the show. Ladies and gentlemen. Chris carter chris. You guys get a grand introduction. You keep people coming back or at least the introduction. Well that's the thing and also whenever you come on in crush to the next one is going to have the saying like you know what i mean. You came on and crush the last time you're on this show so we are very no no no we are great for for you here agree thank you. Thank you curtis anyways. Are you down in tampa right now. You're at the game. is that just. What hall of famers do you guys. just go. hang out there and watch a game together. I was at the game. But i live in southeast florida in boca raton. So i'm back home now After the short commute but a great experience Didn't expected to be the blow out that it was but anytime that you see these prolific offenses and any time that they've had trouble it comes against a great defense and when you cannot get teams out of covered to most of the time myself. That's what i've faced a lot in my career covered too. Because we had chris explain that explain that they showed that lasts. I cover to basically. You're just nobody gets passionate right. It's just basic shale. You're going to go with a four man front and you basically believed that that front four and those two linebackers a lot like tampa bay was with tony. Dungy when they had their brooks as one of those linebackers. You could see a young. Derrick brooks in devon smith outstanding player only twenty two years old. But you're going to have a four man rush. You're going to keep a nice rotation among those four players maybe six players and you are going to physically beat up austin's of one if you look at. What was the mismatch of this game. Going into it. People thaw it was gonna be todd. Bowles blitzing against that on wide receiver. Tight end cool but it wasn't. It was that deepens of lying going against that offensive line that was missing on two stars internet position so that that's what turned again. Tom brady got him off to a good start nice consistent star but the ability to dominate the front by the defense in front of tampa bay. That's the reason why we saw lopsided went. Today's conversation has been pretty cool to be a part of actually because at this point. Seven super bowls. No sign of stopping chris. Ten super bowls together twenty years just the greatness personified in this one. Dude named tom brady. He was chirping last night. He came out did the. Let's go vintage. Tom brady basically in now. The conversation is and i forget who started this. But there's people that are on the internet talking about. They should retired. twelve twelve. Should only be allowed to be worn by tom. Brady nobody else now. Aaron rodgers whereas twelve. And there's been a lot of great twelve and a history but they're talking about. How do we immortalise this guy. How is tom. Brady going to be able to be celebrated by the nfl community. When this whole thing is all said and done you know jerry. West is the logo. Lebron came out and said we should retire. Twenty-three then jordan said something bad about the bronx. The bronx twenty-three back anymore. But how do you think the nfl will go about it. Because i don't think there's going to be anybody that's ever going to be able to do again. It's the amount of luck. I don't wanna say luck. Because obviously he's worked his ass off but for this long with injuries and everything to be this damn good. I don't think it'll it'll ever happen again. How do you think we'll go down chris. Well tom's only gonna do it as a team. a couple things with super bowl behind the scenes that i was able to learn investigative reporting fula. The nfl tried to introduce tampa bay. Introduce their fans. And tom brady would have nothing to do. And that's why you saw in in the game. They only introduce tampa bay as a team in. Kansas city is team. Because tom brady would not stand outside of his teammates in anything that he decided to do being at the nfl hotel Unbear- tampa The brady family happen to be staying the same hotel so i was working on a couple occasions to get the attention of tom. Brady the original. Tom brady senior and talk to him about the sun and And another family member and their only concern was not if they won this game it was. Tom loves football so much. He loves the process of football so much. They don't know what he's going to do so bitter all conversations before the game that is totally into it is definitely not a one and done season in tampa bay so whatever the nfl is going to do. They're going to have a couple years to build a figure it out but let's not get ahead of history the way this young society that we have to go. Who's go like let's watch it. Let's not try to get to the end of it because it's obviously we've tried to get to the end of it for years ago five years ago in. Obviously tom brady is. The one is the one who defeats father time. So let's just watch I do believe that number twelve should be in circulation is too many kids in the history of this game that have warned number twelve and i think they'll continue that it's your right. The thought of enjoying the moment is something that seems to be of the passage this particular time and in sports. I don't feel like that happens. Ever either for patrick mahomes. I think we all realise the potential of this dudes career especially with how it started. Now the conversation is shifting all the way back like well. We'll patrick mahomes be able to accomplish anywhere near tom. Brady's been able to accomplish. And it's automatically going to a comparison of the greatest professional athlete of all time. Is the conversation at thomas getting in there now. How do you think. Patrick mahomes response to this. How do you think the chiefs respond to this no touchdown in the super bowl. Obviously nobody could have predicted that. How do you think this goes for patrick. Mahomes who's another player who we should enjoy. Watch that layout toss dropped touchdown insane. The dudes an absolute baller. But how do you see this playing out for him. As we go forward chris. One of the things that pat you know about inigo career being successful it's about the organization and it starts at the top and i know the hunt family. They're going to provide every resources. Though the andy reid airbnb that they can be able to regroup but if you look at it. They only need to make slight changes. They had a couple players. They have a good offense lineman who opted out decided to stay in canada north of the border and helped with the pandemic because he is of knocker great story in itself but if he comes back healthy if you get damon williams last year he should have been. Mvp in the super bowl or good of an mvp size. Patrick mahomes if you get him back. You have a more ample running attack so you have a couple different running backs but the way to stop explosive. Offense is the way to stop a chris. Carter randy moss is to play cover two. We had a lot of success against tampa in cover to because we used to get down the middle of the field. And we'd have roberson and we going to run the ball against it. So don't take your with it too much realizing that your current roster with a couple of players opted out because of their own personal situation damian williams is mom recently diagnosed with cancer so he had to make that hard for so decision to opt out. But if you look at the roster it is very very good tampa bay as a chance to be good over the next couple years because people will come to tampa just like when payton was in denver. Just like when you have any other veteran quarterback i mean more veteran players with a win the new england if it wasn't for check and you're not going to enjoy yourself off to not tough enough. Teddy bruschi said not tough enough. You're thirteen years in you. Don't wanna come die every day. Not tough enough not to go at. It practices on wednesday in. I don't wanna do that way to win. And that's what tampa bay. Listen i know how to tackle already. Okay i got the form. I under i get it at this point all right. I know that's a way to win. Okay i get it but there's also other ways to win i'm gonna go and choose those and it does feel like bruce arians down there. Tom moore clyde todd bowles goody the crew they got down there it's like hey we're gonna shit talk we're gonna have fun. Let's go ahead and get our work in though and let's keep it. Moving mike evans is already said. He'll take less money or restructure contract. Bruce arians came out and said now. Granted bruce bruce might be negotiated. Listen now the quarterback last year through thirty inches. Will you take less. Yeah yeah yeah. I'll take lie. I mean this is a much better life. This is a much better life like this. But unless we're yeah if you could really just kind of the locker room and nfl is crates in the talent levels are very very summer. The thirty two teams. But if you can bring in a do who can be a stabilizing force. Late in games can win you. That's how you can go from seven to nine to eleven and five. That's you can win eight in a row that's how you can come back and beat. Drew brees after. He beats you twice. That's how you can go to the. Mvp and lambeau field because the kickers the gunners dissenters the wide receiver. Everybody got a little confidence when you gotta do. Because you know you've gotta change and by the way all the extra reps in practice the film study you're not cutting any corners. I talked about this when tom brady was going to be a free agent. This past off season for the first time in twenty years as soon as i heard it was actually going to happen. I got onto this. Mike now is like i would assume twenty teams are going to be interested in bringing tom brady into their building. Because tom brady comes in your athletic trainers get better. Everybody's better as soon as tom brady gets in there i saw with peyton. I saw when payton was zoo. Payton made me a better partner and we had nothing to do with each other. It's just one of those things you watch. Greatness coming out only really. Two teams wanted tom. The forty niners allegedly mike. Florio said passed on tom brady. That's insane to me. But also that is how. Tom brady thrives zo. Right is whenever he's like vick one ninety nine or whatever and now only two teams like that's just adding gas to the entire thing right at this point. I mean tom brady. And his overall legacy of how he could self motivate through all the success baddies had. I mean it. It's remarkable from the bill. Take care of his body. They showed him the picture at you know. We know that the combine but they showed his face like what two years. And i was like. Goodness gracious like the way. His skin structured way. He wettin into fitness and now he's into fitness but ultimately it's about leadership. There was one guy yelling in green bay. Were not and it. Was tom brady in that locker room. So man leaders. You want your team sports team. Businesses leadership can not be unser estimate. You know people wanted to have a direction in. That's what tampa bay got when they signed him seventy nine. Okay give us some direction. Give a chance when you get those big games and last night they had the mismatch upfront going against that offensive line. And as soon as he gets there he goes this what we're doing. Boyzone delays off season. We're breaking into a high school and refunding throwing was going to be helicopters. There's going to be helicopters flying around. This is how we do okay. This is what we break the rules a little bit and we'll get a letter but we've been there done that before. Don't you worry about that. We will tell raj. Take it easy by the way. I'll look for russell wilson and potentially get a little saw him in raj sitting in a suite together you and that's with Raj in russia the super bowl. I mean very close russell Congratulations to him. He's the walk grass and You know my association with it in the ward. We're glad to have russell. I was the first award winner. Nineteen ninety nine can bring instinct grass when you want it. That's okay pat just being associated especially when the world was at its worst. Our players were at absolute best. You read resumes. What these guys did in their one. Day off this offseason. When everyone was scared everyone was petrified. They still went out in their communities in did great things to continue to legacy. So i'm glad you mentioned The russell one no war but it shows the character of our players. Had you been around our players. They don't even get the type of recognition should for the type of charitable work that they're able to do russell was able to lead it and win the walter payton. This year i agree negatively hogs publicity. It's like that and everything but the amount of good that happens in. Nfl cities far outweighs the negative kind of headline thing. That pops up every once in awhile time. What do you have chris. We were talking earlier about the likelihood of a lot of big is going down to ring chase in tampa and i don't think that was really like an option but i would you like to do something like that later in your career and do you think we'll see a lot of marquee players take big pay cuts and go down and play with. Tom and tampa will allow a room. I mean you. You have to have a specific skill of you. Look at the guys who they acquire a. They had some type of relationship with tom. Brady or someone else on the team. People say well leonard fournette. He got cut by jacksonville. Tom was like okay. But devon smith and him were teammates at lsu. He was like hey fool. You better come on down here and get some of this for net happened to be one of those pieces especially as a receiver in their screen game which has not been his forte in college are in his career. If you look at ab ab was desperate ab been mind being a slot receiver but under normal circumstances. You are not going to get an ab. You know with evans and godwin like so a lot of things happen for them. At the end of the day guys are selfish about their money. But if you can get a little nugget he or they're a little piece a little safety a backup offensive lineman. Those are the types of thing because guys do want to win and also at some point guys determined. I made enough money. Let me try to chase that trophy. And it's likely the debt trophies. Don't end up at that guy's house by play with him for a couple of years. So i think guys around the league. Yes we'll be looking at tampa as a destination but you gotta have a specific skill In still set congrats you shipley by the way up to the questions from the crew because sometimes man united sharp and they bring you back. Listen listen i you know. How many green. Tea's morning sharp. I m listening every once in a while but this green tea got me. Run through walls powder chris. Because you're in the stadium when that streaker one hundred dollars for six was that one of the greatest feats of athleticism you saw last night. And what was he wearing. Exactly listen anytime so people trying to zero zero halter top or leotard promoting a porn website. Website on leotard. By the way we are getting inside from the crew by the way keeping use sharp. Chris the game. You didn't even know okay. the krim got you. don't worry don't worry about. Don't worry about it but there it is often to other hall of famers in every town. Tell you man. I'm not in the body here. Okay bye only to select i. I had to grab for my my bowl to throw up when you're who hey. Has there been anybody that you've met. That was much cooler than you could have ever imagined especially with that. Because you're up that whole fame. Group is we were. We're with peyton. Yesterday as he was going into the stadium for the hall of fame sweets. I think like all the thing but he was calvin johnson john like. Is there anybody you've met that or like the new class. Maybe that comes into your like okay. I hadn't met this do before. Do you pretty much know everybody at this point. Well you don't know him as personal as you get to know him in the hall of fame because you spend more time with them. We're gonna be together several times a year. And i just think that there's not that edginess this sometimes you have when you're reading other people's wrestling men in the nfl Great example johnny and were teammates for a long long time in minnesota. And i are closer. Nows all famous and working with the nfl and the nfl Legends than we ever were in the same locker room. And as johnny says it. You know you feel like you're competing against every and now that we're obligated. We're just trying to help those. That played the game yemen. I are amazing france. We were talking on the phone last week in laughing and joking just I'm so impressed with what he's been able to do. So i think that's when you reach a certain level. And i know we as hall of famers. We let them know that we're not going to have that attitude in the hall guys kind of dry. I mean when you have teammates like mean. Joe greene jack. Lambert ronnie lott. Would you talking about kind concessions. do you think you need your own. The greatest football team ever. I text rod woodson and tony. Welcome to the squad. Bad as football squad knock ever make tonight exchanged pleasantries that way. But it's totally different than what we see. Typically in the locker room and all that testosterone. But i really. I really liked the fact you guys take ownership of that though like this is our team not like because that is how it is kind of like the presentation in the induction. Welcome to the team. You're like well. That's a very cool thing. That is probably not an easy thing to accomplish. Especially like you're saying the amount of egos and everything. I would assume there's a lot of potential on the shockey and i'm not saying this because you in the last three years And i've been very active. The hall of fame morten anderson is probably one the most surprising most interesting people that i've met. That's all because he train like any other football player like he had dreams and ambition even though he wasn't playing football but he used the chart everything. Practice the win the direction the yardage which hash marks like. He was almost like a computer and the game. Winning kick had against nc championship in ninety eight symptom to the super bowl. He had a dream about that kick in visualized chicken thirty nine yarder from the left pass and he had logged in his daily law and Just meeting some of these guys in seeing the extra would like all of them have a secret sauce. Yeah that was able to get them besides their pure ability but morten andersen. Were you weirdo specialty. Man i love him. I love him as my brother. I didn't know him before. I mean you toward an incredible story there about the amount of work the more had to put in and everything like that just the dedication and then right there at the fucking judea. Everybody here though with us how to do it just had to do you had to do it digs. What are you kerr. Speaking hall of fame. Calvin johnson goes in first ballot joining jerry rice randy moss for the first ballot wide receivers in the last twenty five years. What do you think about. Calvin going i. I think is a elder statesman in the hall of fame. We're talking about the hall of fame and we should only talk about it in a good lap. there's been a debate We didn't know what the qualification work for a first ballot hall of famer. And i know the reason why you asked me because i wasn't a first ballot hall of fame hassle but i'll just give you a little that bad. No point was calvin johnson ever number two interceptions and number two in touch step so saying but i'm happy for him because he was on his way to shatter all kinds of records and he should have been recognized for what he did. I think terrell davis getting in a number of years ago it opened up people's mind that yes you can still be a first ballot hall of famer and and and have a shorter career Than what we've seen some of these other players in that same position. I think last time you were on. I think last time you're on. We talked to you about that because it was. When philip rivers conversation was happening and i said philip rivers and started for seventeen years in the nfl. Okay that is so long. There's only thirty two jobs as the quarterback in a quarterback driven league for seventeen years. He goes into hall. And you said like yeah. Consistency or sustained greatness or something. And then you said if it's a short you better be like barry sanders you said you're have to calvin johnson. I think one of those you know johnson. They are the standard in a short career. They dominated dominated football. They changed the rules of football. And the thing. I can say about county. Johnson and i played with randy models i saw coverage against calvin johnson that i had never seen i mean i saw them lineup. Like a gun or on the goal line. And i'm like potable. That's respect a look like bat. That is respect and calvin johnson. He did a great guy on and off the field sensational numbers his ability to be big fast ads out fearless across the middle Calvin johnson is a hall of famer deserves the recognition. Maybe ford's will give him back his money to. Oh man that that's the i mean. What a waste of what the world could have seen we've had one organization shorten tool careers very sad. Quick man didn't say nothing said. Because i don't wanna play. No calvin johnson not one blemish on his mark mean he is perfect anti-d rec- we have him in. Larry duro dominating. Nfl at the same time. Calvin i don't wanna play. I don't want to sacrifice. Because i don't feel like my sacrifices matched by the organization sell t cheese. We have lines vein in the building. Crazies right there. There isn't a lot of them but sell the t try to fix it right pressing. Every time they come on. You're awesome man. I hope we get to do again. Enjoy boca enjoy the offseason and appreciate your greatly guys. I appreciate in the crew. Appreciate y'all elevating blade today because my man got super bowl hangover without you guys met. He will be a shell of himself. I i say through me to thank. Chris chris carter the best press conference performance. Though in the history of sports is not by roger goodell. it's not by rob manfred. It's not by anybody who's ever stepped in front of a microphone with sports media in front of them. The best ever press conference was done by man who's joining us. Currently who's a super bowl chan. A pro bowler. And all pro two-time rushing touchdown leader. He's on the all. Decade team will be a hall of famer ladies and gentleman beast mode more shoplift. Let's go on. i was so wrote. Hey what are you doing. Where are you i hear. You're calling the game somewhere. And that's what i heard man. They didn't let me begin. Fretless might jump on the street. I mean you know where at. Where can we watch or hear this. You should fox. let's go. I'm a big fan of putting marshawn lynch and situations in watching we've saw you in scotland. It was unbelievable. We saw in front of red panda. What is your expectation for the super bowl. Marshawn is a man who's been there done that in this game to be honest with you. I'm i'm i'm looking for a house. Lauren a high scoring. Thank you to with these quarterbacks. It how do you whenever you think about super bowls you one one. Obviously and then there's a moment that is forever immortalized in one of the best of all time. Throw thing whole building blow down and fire. I could take walk that thing in there. Then you go back and getting yeah and then you go back to seattle. What are your thoughts on the super bowl and how everything pans out there with that team. Were fucking unbelievable there for a while you know when it when it first happened may apply at a gas last and i mean you know as long charges get this. You know we really love. Why belt type shit. so then. What had the opportunity to go back up there and possibly got a chance to to get back you know. I was excited for especially coming off the couch. And you know what. I mean jumping right into the playoffs. I could do that marshawn. How are you able to do that. I mean most people can't do that like you said coming from the couch and all of a sudden you're playing in the super bowl. You always always ready. You know what i mean. I think there's more so just me just always reading. And i mean you know it's always been no point in time it's always talk by you know entertaining idea but then you know when it started getting really real his more so okay you know. I've been doing little workouts. My little calisthenics push did fakes watson. Student okay this is really real. Okay let me pick up. Some of that aren't really really get it. get it going though. What was it like. How many weeks did it take for you to bounce back. We saw that with gronk this year. Gronk one back this season after a couple years off. He said he'd been training every day in reality. He was changing his shirts the same day he was working so he worked out one day. He sent them fifteen and then you saw the earlier in the season. He was kind of struggling a little bit. How long did it take for you to get back in there. After i think he was serving shots of tequila in the parking lot for the raiders. A direct so. Look now theory about that right. I don't think i really like you. Know what i mean really felt it until i got that i hit in In the first game that i play then it was like all k- dan everything started coming back. But i mean you know to to to give really acclimated to you really gotta be ended and then little practices where you know love in the same as you family that full body contact so i think it was right there with when my body really respond them was like. Oh yeah this shit is for real. I was like for you going from buffalo to seattle when you first got there. Seattle's like a pretty unique space. with what p carroll has gone. There's not a whole lot of teams. I have like a beat positive fun all the time. It was a cool transition for you. You know what it was it was it was a transition but i need you know like right at that time for me was coming. You know not only offer the trade and move from you know from the city but you know. I had some complications dealing with as well. So you know the change of scenery chance firemen as far as you know being in a you know that a lot different run out i will say really held my really helped my career and it really helps as well so i mean you know it came right on top of me. It sounds like you're having a great time over there in your world. Hey you got to experience so many things both as a businessman off the field and on the field. Is there a moment. When i asked this question of bob's around like what's the ass shit you've ever seen in your entire life because there was a time there where it felt like you were just getting dropped into insane situations in the world was like watching you do the man versus wild you in that bear. Grylls guy fucking electric. That was maybe the most electric should have ever seen. Is there anything that you think of. Whenever you think like what's the most ridiculous thing you've been a part of probably some of the most ridiculous it. I have been a part of was a. I got the The restaurant which i mean right now and you know when we first got it i come in here and i would clean up and go outside in the front sweeper mature look nights and shit and one morning i got up here and i noticed this fault yes mail and i learned to the side of my front door in this big as palace. She about illness shit right on the side door. Somebody came in poppy. Shit right this serving food. Come walk in as may come and the water holes and i'm holding it down and you know i see you know we got a couple you know. Though feigns de using walk backup before landing on also one of them owned up to it. Don't do this no more. You come by here we get you. We get your broom You know you help you help us help. You put together a law. Awkward proposition torment on cleanup shade. On the win win win for everybody on that a one of your big helping the people man that's awesome that's why people want them owned up to a line of questioning the clutch willie. All matter of fact he just just saying sweeping up. Oh i've been looking for you. We we we bust down together in the front of the plane up in everything. Hey you're helping pay your willie one from outside to work inside. Let's talk that's not. Let's go boy. Van will marshall. Why do you call matt. Flynn antonio he wanted me to ask you that. I know he was your team. And who's my matt. I don't think antonio any part of his name. You always called him in tokyo. He actually loves he just looked like an tonio to meet. Yeah i mean. Oh my god i don't man shut off tony. I don't even know where. So you're you're on fox live coming up here in like fifteen minutes. Yeah i mean you know. I got behind right now trying to see if they started billing like this pinch last. I'm trying to play the play. Both monte morris. Hey you're smart man. You're a very smart man. You're also doing business right now in california with sports betting dime dot com and they put out a video by the way of you kicking field goals. You gotta fuck in howitzer pal. You were bombing. Football's on the internet. It was incredible to watch a man. They called me to do everything. Why fishing the fact ladies and gentlemen legend obviously alone alone big bog. When when i got the call they like year man. We wanna get you with a paddock trump and year. Mark that straight up so mail you know whenever whenever you call me at. Give me all ended a jack. 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Obviously you know there was a little bit of a miscommunication last week between myself and faneuil. We worked that out. That's kind of how things operate whenever you're in a business relationship with each other but even if we weren't a business relationship with fan so it'd be hard to say that we wouldn't use the sports sportsbook app. There are so many different ways to win. There's more things to bet on. Their boost seemed always hit which is just fucking themselves over time and time again we love the hell out of financial sportsbook. And you will too if you haven't used it yet. Use it now. Serves fantasy on their daily fantasy and free to play games or you can win money shots. Vandal shout to you. let's get back to the show. This man's name was mentioned a few times when i asked people to guess who they think the guests were going to be in. There's no shame in that because this man is a four time superbowl winner. Go to be a hall of famer. And whenever the hell he wants a legend in two different cities for two different teams a man who taught me how to be a much better ball. Kicker and human ladies and gentlemen adam venit. Hey so i see. You're sitting in your office. There is that. I saw video last night. You promote your cameo by the way which we will get to the video. The you were in was maybe football. Heaven at point is at your office. That is down by the bar area in the basement so fi spin around you get a little good little view but it's something my wife wanted to do. I told her. I said you can you. Can you can make me crazy in one area but don't spread it all over the house. It makes it look kind of thing so she did a nice job down here and it looks good so you can go down. This is actually conversation. You've probably never wear your rings or celebrate many of the things that you've accomplished. That have been unbelievable. But i like the fact that on super bowl sunday maybe superbowl weekend. You go down in that room and you know what the kid fucking did not a lot. Yeah you know mean. We just reminisced against the pictures on the wall from awesome games a couple of super bowl things and that kind of thing. So it's awesome. Just come down here and remember reminiscent bat mitzvah a long time since you and i played in one but it's not that far not that long ago the interesting thing about you whenever people think about kickers and vegetarian general. It's just like your like the most clutch dude. The history sports like the biggest moments. You always came through and it was now not saying you haven't missed in or anything like that but it felt like in those massive moments super bowl. Afc championship games. Even game. Winners and divisional rounds and everything like that. That don't even get talked about. Which if you don't hit you don't move onto the whole thing. What is it about those moments. Because i told the story that you become just like this. You know ice face. Steel character looks. Like china's stare daggers. Through your older but what is it. What is it about those moments that made you go. I'm gonna go the opposite way of many people here. I'm going to have success here. Yeah pat you know for me. I just tried to stay in my little world. You know just try. You try to block out all the other stuff and i guess iceman or stone cold. Whatever that's just me kind of trying to block out all the other craziness and just really stay focused in on my little world. I always always tell everybody you know you. You can only control what you control and let everybody else do their job around you and we all we all get paid to do it man. So it's been very fortunate to have a bunch of opportunities to stand in the middle of the field was with all is either hoping i make it or hoping. I missed it and more times. If not they've gone through which is a good thing but Yeah as. I'm looking at all these pictures. And you're you're you're gonna make me cry man crawl over right now. Just looking at all these pitches and remembering these days. Yes so you played obviously just forty eight years old now. I believe he played last year. When you're forty seven which by the way her awesome but you listen to. Tom brady talk and he said he wants to play. I thought you said past. He was forty five now at this point. Or whatever you play to your forty seven two very different positions but still have to be able to keep it physically and mentally the competitive edge and everything like that have you in. Tom kept in touch much. And what do you think it is about you guys who play forever that make you still love the whole process. And everything like that for sure. Tom situations much more difficult than being a kicker. Obviously we have to keep our body healthy and in shape but but what he does is a whole different level of of us and kickers. And whatever you know for for me. It's a different situation for for for tom to continue to be at the level that he's at and still doing it as good as ever just blows me away. I mean obviously we all know about his avocado ice cream and all the crazy stuff that he does and you do that. I knew that pliability stuff you know what somebody says. I'll go ahead and try. I can't imagine it's very great but and better today than he did. Obviously when he entered the league but he looks like he keeps getting younger. And and you know the the greatest far for me everybody asks. Hey who do you want to win this game. I'm cheering for tampa bay. For many reasons for for brady for bruce arians for all the above clyde half halfway through the season everybody was right and tom offs and he should. He should've retired. he's washed up. You can't do it. And all he does is keeps going out there and showing everybody wrong so i hope we can do a one more time and and this is this is rated. Pg rated r. shake his dick on everybody. Whatever he needs to do nine times if he wins this one. You know however many super bowls. It's ridiculous i mean he's been in as many as a half as many as years have been in the league and that is absolutely insane. So did you now. Are you gonna play like what are you. Are you still are. You still can't your kid by the way his kid bombs balls like there's going to be a viteri in the league now. He can't say because i'll be. I mean the kid already has a men's pressure because he's kid but he seems to handle it very well. He bombs balls. Are you out there. Kicking alongside them ever. He's doing really really well. He's matured a lot in the last year and he's actually gotten very focused and very serious about it and that as you know as soon as you commit to it and you work your butt off. Sky's the limit at that point. So it's fun for me to watch. I've been out there. I've kicked the balls with him a few times. Not not every time time. I'm not saying. I'm making a comeback or any o-only now they're all i'm saying is is. It's taken me a year to get back and now i feel pretty good but but it's actually exciting taking him to these different camps and do his thing and and it's been fun because there's one hundred fifty kids out there and evidently finishes in the top one or two and i go hell. Yeah that's my boy. You'll be proud of them if he was finishing dead last. But it's more fun when he's kicking astronaut much more joyful conversation. Sounds like you said you're potentially coming back by the way that is going to be a big takeaway from what you just said. I'm not saying i'm just telling you. That's what people are potentially going to say that you said there. Well i know this this last year i said. Hey i'm gonna try to get healthy and see if i could come back at no time during this year was healthy enough to do that. I mean i just wasn't you know it took me a lot longer to get my knee right and but i've been i've been getting back and working out and doing some running and still pretty good. You know. maybe that's just because the stress levels down and not banging balls all the time. But now i'm not i'm not gonna say one way or another. I might just wait two more years and come back fifty play. Could you imagine you're fifty year old ass walking out there. Ladies and gentlemen the fifty year old would be legendary. And now not that. What you haven't done already isn't but you get it. whatever. I'm say tonner adam. You've won two super bowls on the last kick with that right leg. Yours is every kick the same for you. Or was there a moment during either the panthers kick or the rams cake where you're like. Oh shit this is. It is kinda funny because you you think about as a kid growing up. That's the biggest moment that i could ever have imagined as a being out there kicking the game winner in the super bowl doesn't get any bigger than that but the crazy part about it. I think when we played the rams we were such big underdogs. There wasn't don't get me wrong at the end of the game. There's plenty of pressure on but it was. It didn't have that same. Feel i would say carolina and in missed a kick earlier in that game and they were coming back kind of a different game. I would say the nerves. Were maybe even a hair more there because that was expected. You know the first one everybody was you know. I hate to say there's plenty to pass fans at said man the curse of the whatever they just assume that we were gonna lose it. Got mrs kick because we can't win a super bowl and and now you just flip the flip the coin and they've been in it so many times now. It's an expected thing you know. But i guess for me after after a few weeks before that in the in the snowball game in the raiders. I guess nothing could rapidly too terribly much after going through that silly a joke. You made that kick. What an absolute show. You know how those videos go by the way. That's why the kickers have like the stereotype that they have because in those moments big slip right. Big slip ball goes into ass. Some scrum happens. Tears breaks collarbone something like that and instead your dumb ass just walked out there and made. There's no way you're supposed to make that snow kick at all and then the one from buffalo company. You're not supposed to make that kick it all. It's awesome to watch you do that type of shit. Well i'd say what i those are two lucky lucky. Kicks obviously agree. Yeah but i tell you what you know. It's one thing my son keeps talking about. You know hey. Dad i wanna college ball somewhere warm and i go. I tell you what playing playing up north and playing in crappy conditions in wind and rain and snow in lousy fields. Prepares you for all of these other things now. Playing out to kota doesn't guarantee making any of those kicks. But practicing every day outside in new england and bill would never let us go inside and it could be torrential rain or snow. We're out there practicing this muddy shed in your just on. This is ridiculous. But i've seen patriot that you do that and handle it. You're just that much better off in the long run that's patriot way but Yeah exactly have. You heard that conversation right now. Have you heard that entire conversation. That's popping off right now. Have you heard it from outside or you. You know the patriot way right now. It's probably changed a little bit jump just trying to keep my my nose to the ground very smart by the way he might be kicking for new england adam. We're trying to make some money tonight. Patas history about kicking off a super super bowl. How bad the ball was you. Obviously kicked off against was not a touchback. Did you cook off thirty yard. Line thirty yard kickoff by the way five yard steeper have lower spectrum. I got. I got to go to that. There's a touchback off the opening kickoff. Well i'll tell you what. I know tony's mentioned that and he was on your guys show when he talked about it. But you know our special teams was doing so good in the postseason that that we weren't we weren't going to be afraid of hester you know. We knew how great he was on punt return but he hadn't done as much kickoff return wise and we said you know what we're just gonna kick it down there and we're going to kick their asses what we thought and about ninety something york later riccar sword never and never kicked to him again the rest of the game so i was either squib kick and kicking in the quarter anywhere that he wasn't where we kicking. We weren't going to let him ruin the game force and asked that was done and over with game went the way we expected. Do you remember by the way. I mean that to feel the the mental toughness of the team. To give up the opening kickoff touchdown that that could potentially berry you that could especially in that big stage of a moment. I mean that's a big deal but then obviously you guys did what you had to do. Their you tackled herschel walker. Though you know what i mean like. Didn't you walk them. You actually want them. There's legendary video of walking them. Devin hester bangel. What happened. How much fifteen. Years in about thirty pounds later know. I do know exactly what he's twenty two years old. When the herschel walker thing happened. I think i was thirty five or six or whatever the heck i was the one so navy not quite as fast jersey nice and green and dirty no-can-do. That's awesome. do you remember the ball. Being rock-hard though opening kickoff ball yeah they screw us. Every year are are they. They always kind of the first ball that they go out there. The referee dozen even dig into the bag of balls and tries to find the four that we have broken in. They just grab whatever they want to and they don't really care about us in and yeah it was. It was lousy. And know i know. Sometimes they do that throughout hubbub when we were in when we were in london every single one of those while. I hate batman still to this day. That referee wall remember. He called off sides on me. Because i was bitchy. I'm so much on an extra point. I thought you were going to kill me. I read it was me and wall. Had that moment we made the next one. Yeah thank god you did. I did nothing by the way. Never gets talked about your mental toughness. I don't know how many kickers going on three or even four sometimes onset. I honestly have no idea. How many teams in kickers will be able to handle that. I don't think i would have been able to by the way with what we were doing. The we used to go on like three hard counts by the way like it was fucking. It was awesome. There's no reason for us to be able to do it. The normally kick will be like a i stumble all. We can't be doing that. I gotta make the kick tie. What are you have adam. Speaking of mental toughness. Obviously you always have to be prepared but in any of those big games. Is there a point in like the early in the game second. Quarter anything where you kind of just new like. Hey this is this is probably gonna come down to me every single game. I thought it was coming down to me. Honestly it seemed like that you know. It's funny though when we we had you know. Obviously i'll go. I'll digress back to the patriot. Wade's year. We want our first at five game winners that season including the super bowl and the snowball kicked a three other year. I definitely earned my money. We're gonna to indy in peyton seem to like throw throat fifty or sixty points every game so it usually wasn't coming down to a field goal unless the other team could could keep up as well but i prepared myself thinking that a lot of time. Well fat tell me we had. We had an offensive coordinator that told us at one point. I want to win by one point. I've told the story by thirty and blow kisses to my fans that means it comes down to me all the time i told that story. Actually i've told that story a couple of times and i've said i said we used to have this coach. You want to you. Want one step further there. I to keep it in as planned as possible. I said we used to have this coach. Oh come sit next. I don't know if that was like to calm himself down or whatever but we we always had good conversation like always had a good conversation and then one time he said good luck out there layer whatever and he said just trying to win by or have one more point than they have in. You literally goes. How try to win by fifty that it was. It was a wild decision score. Let's let's not have our hearts beating out of our chessy entire second half pound out so they can catch up right then he finney you know. I have to ask one more time here. You're going to kick next year in the nfl. There's a chance are you going to your nfl. I can't do it. i can't do it i'm doing. I'm doing my thing here. You know what. I mean working on having babies and all that stuff working on trying to man. You think i'm gonna suck a dad by the way you're going to be the funnest dad on the planet. How many kids you have three that. I know no kidding your handsome some bids back. Hey are now or whatever you enjoy life though at home like you know because you know a lot of football guys whatever they get done with football you know. They don't really know what to do. Have you enjoyed your time at home with the family and everything. This year's been interesting. Obviously the whole kobe thing i mean it. It's shoved everybody into close quarters with with a lot of people on. Thank god i get along with my family pretty well all in all. I mean there's some days that that everybody's kind of in each other's space and on each other you know you're kind of pulling your hair out stuff but honestly. I really enjoyed this year. I had the opportunity to help my son at his high school. I was. I was kind of the honor. Especial teams coach if you will and did a bunch of stuff with them which kept me around football and kept me kind of engaged in all that travel around a lot this year and spend some time with my family that i haven't ever got to do in the fall before so honestly and then i guess with all the coca tests and all the crazy stuff going on at the at all. The nfl's facilities maybe. It was a blessing in disguise. I had this year. Emily and not give my nose to every single day implies. You're older. I mean you are in that. I'm at high risk now a vinnie. I'm just. I haven't yet the heads or tails here. What do you think know. I know why do i do anyway. I do rely. I bet on tails thirty thousand of. Did you really thirty thousand on tails. Well you know you gotta you get a fifty fifty chance. I don't like the you're not on my side but immediately asking you. I knew your answer as it was coming out. I was like all. We've had this conversation about one hundred times before all right. Well i appreciate your man. I can't wait for you to go into hall of fame. Whenever that's going to be maybe six years seven years eight years whenever you decide to stop. You're the best dude appreciate you. Thanks for having me on and enjoy the game tonight fell. Hey who do you got. Yeah you got bucks. I gotta go with tampa bay man. I don't know if they're going to pull it off or not. I mean it's more money. Says you spread. Are you take kansas city. But i really wanna see bruce arians. I got some friends over there selfishly. 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Like you've never heard before all hosted by the incredible terrence j to experience my city unlocked by hyundai checkout hyundai dot with spotify dot com brought to you by the completely redesigned. Honda entre now. Yeah the prodigal pod returns which means it's time to offer up a brief refresher on what actually happens in ironman three by opening the by frost and accessing the knowledge of the light bulbs in the wake of the battle in new york. Toni reminisces about new year's eve. Nineteen ninety nine in bern switzerland who among us happy's hair y two k. A little personal connection with the in. Yes indeed brilliant botanist. Though my i would want you to call her botanist as we'll learn me. Who would who would save my life. But i don't remember him later. Yeah not tony's best showing in that sense tony stark. We see rebuffs aldrich killian. A researcher proudly wearing his his merch. His aim shirt. I i really felt seen you know always rocket binge mon merch. And he's there to pitch tony on his new venture aim advanced idea mechanics but tony is way too drunk. Way too busy. Flirting with maya hansen in subtly saying to aldridge. I go get my quit if you know what i mean yes you can get. It is johnny. My is of course age analysis on the verge of a breakthrough. Don't touch her fight guests jason or happen seen for happy any dives onto tony. It's it's not k. K. christmas time. The present at tony's malibu mansion. Tony is implanting himself with nodes which will allow him to suit up without a rig autonomously. The processes some kinks. But it's clearly promising tony's actions towards dummy. We can talk about later. Take that dunce cap off. It's not kind and it's not appreciated. Mean don't i didn't notice that you steve isaac and cram all in order to me when i took a screen shot of that moment and dropped it into our slack. I've distress nobody. Nobody said yeah. That was sad. that's that's true. That was big. That was a beautiful moment at the end a special. Meanwhile the mandarin a terrorist leader or so have believe takes over u. s. television airwaves to take responsibility for an attack on a military base in kuwait. The president announces a jeeves. Rose now code named the iron patriot. We'll be deployed against the mandarin tony. Meanwhile is traumatized by the battle in new york and is suffering from anxiety. Attacks ultra killian. All glow arise stark industries looking. Good showing a lot of ankle i felt like i was watching currencies of the bachelorette with all the dudes coming out of the limo showing six inches of ankle. I support it showing a lot of ankle and getting right into ceo. Pepper potts is personal space during a pitch. Which is some impressive. Three d hologram technology browser amd broiler daughter. Arm shorts goldberg. He's he's he's pitching extremists. His proprietary process for upgrading. The human body pepper seeing the obvious military application here yes rejects killing. Seems like it could be weaponized. Also pretty sure you're passing off maya's research as your own the patriarch. Israel is so real. It's real happy follows gillian's bodyguard eric. Savin to hollywood where he asked if he's interested in watching the early seasons of twenty four together to talk about chase and then perhaps binging the too short lived. I think we can agree rubicon together. Underrating con a really really fun paranoid thriller. Great show shouts to the rubicon hive out there. There are dozens of us. Three of them are calling now at least dozens of us. Amc was feeling itself that put it again. I respect it as time would would say i respect the iras whatnot and happy. While their peeping witnesses savin has something to anxious. Looking ma'am eric intercepts. Happy and using his extremis abilities throws happy what appears to be thirty feet across the plaza and honestly thank god because if happy had been closer he would have been vaporized. Save happy's lie. So thank you eric. Your services are noted. And if you're interested in watching downton abbey with happy just let us know you'd have to come back to life but you know comics. The man who received the briefcase taggart cannot regulate even though he said he could and he explodes another mandarin attack. Happy watches gravely injured and an utter horror. As eric's bobby destroyed by the blast regenerates with speed and ease. He walks away like this was like a sprained ankle. Shakes it off after this. Tony visits happy in the hospital and happy is in dire straits after insisting that downton abbey put on the television happy through this is this is what i wanna talk about. Let's talk about it. I love downton abbey seasons. The first few seasons are brilliant. It falls off but it's still very very good. I hung in the whole time and find their from start to finish. Despite some you know it gets choices along the way sure so choice rally how about the dowager countess manoeuvres mcgillion mechanical herself out there. Crushing it the long gun. The british the earl of grantham. All of them. I love even. Let's let's bring the let's bring the dead turk beck who died in the throes of passion. Let's bring him back and let's talk to him widely. After visiting his body man in the hospital tony goes on a tirade in front of the cameras promises to go after the mandarin and quite unwisely as it turned out. Says you wanna come find. Here's my home address. Silly big mistake. Tony silly stuff at home tony with jarvis's help discovers a possible own. No manner attack that took place in rose hill tennessee. Jarvis is getting right on that flight plan by then arrives at the house we just savers road security very low considering that tony stark just gave out his address and directly challenged an international terrorist group. I appreciate it. Tony calls out jarvis on the lax security at play in this moment though i also appreciate the jarvis is like what do you want me to do my guy you told everyone where you live. Helicopters are out there. What do you wanna do. Fly the suits in a patrolling pattern around the fucking mansion. Don't let some stranger drive up. Rake out the the house party right. Then and there i agree. I love this sequence. Because as tony and pepper. Arguing pepper wants to get out of town. Twenty wants to stay. Put maya hanging out. Everybody knows that mayan. Tony slept together. One night stands back absolutely iconic moment. When tony was just night but it was green. Rebecca halls. Like you know makes that. Was it. champagne dick for tony. That night. For sure. Tony tony taller. Got some live kamara as tony. Pepper argue giant rabbit just sitting there looming over the senior. The mansion comes under attack. Who would've guessed unbelievable. This stunning turn of events. Didn't the coming not see this coming in the mark forty. Two armor pepper saves tony from the falling debris. Great look for our gal pepper potts. She also gets clear of the attack though real talk i hear she can barely get the pollster going in time to loosen up the glass. She hurls maya through a still largely intact plate of glass knocks her into the concrete and it falls on top of her in the suit in maya's like i'm good. I'm good to go and then by the way. Can we also talk about this. Steve is gonna kill us. We're to be six hours in before we have to. I love obviously the the thought to save pepper before himself. Sanmar forty two to protect her great very sweet. However as soon as jarvis tells tony that peppers clear he's like good enough for me and cries the over backed him. She's four feet away like for cutaway. She's out by helicopters and missiles. She's she's in the fucking driveway. They're launching lights. It's here's the other thing hurt. She street at least there's thirty suits in the basement. Thirty forget suits unbelievable stuff. Tony man tony manage as we mentioned Calls the mark forty two back to him. Dons it and fights back but it is not combat radius. Jarvis tells so in the end in the end. Tony houses destroyed. The rubble of his house falls into the ocean. Falls on tony. Drags tony down to the ocean floor. Jarvis takes control of the army manages to pull the now unconscious. Tony free and flies to its last data input rosehill tennessee with tony inside fast asleep by the way another note here. Sure i'd love it. Our guy eric flying away without once looking in his in his rear view mirror. Tony is just visibly flying away. I just have many many many notes for eric. Eric would leader listen. I'm spoiling a bullet. Point but eric would later get his ass kicked by tony. Who has like basically nothing. He's nude eric. Get it together by guy what is happening. What a waste of extremists. You are god. Maya still with pepper. While tony's often tennessee tells pepper that she thinks her boss algiers killian. Who of course pepper knows is working for the mandarin and of course it's true though not exactly in that fashion killian we see is in the studio as the mandarin is recording his elitist. High neater communicate tony with the help of harley a local kid. In an amateur inventor investigates the site of the explosion in rosehill his findings leading to the mother of a soldier. Who tony believes took extremis. She gives tony a file but before he can examine it. An extremist powered assassin attacks wings when the local law gets in the way she uses her extremist powers to tear through them tony now without his armor as mentioned and with only a really a jury rigged repulsive one jury rigged pulsar. Smart guys always cover their ass. Manages to defeat infoway the editor of french runway. And as we just mentioned eric who is a fucking waste of a multi-million dollar super soldier process. Come on dude. Eric load in enough is back his feet. And you know who's nodding approvingly with a raised eyebrow and a. Who's that fresh pair of glasses. Fresh tony's glasses miranda. That's who let me just say one more thing about eric. This guy got foiled by harley throwing a fucking snowball at his shoulder. Do answer tough moment. Soldier bro keep serious are up fun. Yeah that's tough shots harley though. He's the best plucky. Plucky little harley big fan harley. The mandarin makes another statement. Threatens to kill roxanne. Accountant live on tv unless the president calls him within thirty seconds and thirty. Chuck president. alyssa's. Like i'm gonna dial you right up. We can zoom everyone watch. They'll see that i complied. Even though everyone in my advisory council here is telling me not to of course what habits of course it. You dummy what happens. The mandarin shoots him anyway or so it seems bun Tony locates a news truck outside of a beauty pageant. Listen gary all of us. Tony has a just has a nose for a beauty pageant. Somehow with the help of the starstruck news tech. Tony manages to download the aim files using roadies logging info. What he sees is heroin. Killian used combat veterans as his test subjects for extremists. The imperfect process causes one soldier to explode this. Tony realizes is the source of the mandarin's terrorist attacks shots to gary the avatar fandom. Just want to say. I'm really glad to see adam pally in a role where he did not punch i dear sweet baby yoda adam. Bally's facial hair in this is troubling in many ways i think it's phenomenal phenomenal also got blitz. Give it up for you see people in marvel movies. There are so many of them. It's wonderful the levity. You need it you know. You need the laughs. Chilean takes pepper prisoner soon. After rhody is also taken captive. Things are not going. Well rhody you fucking loser. Unbelievable stuff for brody tony to miami. Still without his armor to confront the mandarin and he breaks his way into the mansion using innovation as harley reminds him he's a mechanic he could build something and make something and he discovers upon entering the man. The twist here. It is the mandarin. We've all seen on our screens. Making these grand speeches is actually. You'll never see. A struggling actor maimed trevor. Slattery fan of the football fan of the beer's apparently not a fan of any sort of air freshener in the restroom. Judging by the Vanessa and her pal. And then tony's taken prisoner do unbelievable stuff. Killian comes to gloat over. Tony and he shows tony a video. Stream of pepper potts his prisoner and her amazing abs- phenomenal like break a two by four across those apps. Holy shit at larry's moment at the end tony's like why don't you just like this at home kilian is subjecting pepper to the extremities process. And she is clearly in pain. Maya seen her boss finally go too far threatens to kill herself unless killian releases tony without herculean with lose the formula samaya belief. She has some leverage over killian. Oh or so. She thinks killing just shoots her. He has tony to take her place tough on. Its steve not good. We need it. Gives us those eighty whales for maya good. She didn't wanna go feels so good. Who's stark eric. Then takes the iron patriot armor to attack air force. One rhodium tony now. In possession of tony's mark forty two more naturally charged. But it'll have to do escape in wanna kill hinz. Gifted speedboats part of trevor's lavish lifestyle off. Piloting ironman remotely really fell. Ivan bank goes pro droned armor energy throughout all of iron man three. It's nice to know that whip lashes still making an impact on the mcu. The vanko family ripped off again. Thinking about here i era original idea howard or tony look at this god your sh man great point very tough there for ivan and his. Bud tony kills eric and by playing a game of airborne on monkeys. I'll say i don't think makes a ton of sense l. Electric your your arm and then you won't be able to open your hand. Also jarvis says he can only carry four of them. He's iron man i know. He's not fully powered. But none of that makes sense. And i also by biggest. My biggest pet peeve with that sequence is actually the passengers they all land. None of them were injured from the velocity at which they hit the water and instead of just shitting themselves shrieking in horror hugging each other expressing gratitude for leather ironman dope. Cheery come on anyway. The president is killings prisoner. Killian plans to burn him alive over a bonfire of oil while he's wearing the iron patriot suit. These symbols of the american way. Tony roads track kilian to the docks. Tony calls all his suits using the house. Party protocol in the ensuing battle. Tony roads defeat killings extremis enhanced souls and save the president and pepper now with extremities powers of her own delivers. The khuda gra to killian. When do we talk about how doesn't totally make sense. When and how and what actually kill somebody. Who's an extra soldier. I guess let's do it. It's like so if you get him. It's like a vampire thing like if you get 'em full through the chest that stop some but if it's like a limb they'll be okay. This reminds me a lot of ultimate hulk versus wolverine. Where nick fury took will reads decapitated head and kept it in a jar for like a number of weeks just to see what would happen with the with the deadwood vibes just hanging onto sarah head. Yeah talking to talk to it a lot. Did he pass based on any point. Wolverine was confused when he came to to realize that he is now a head in a jar talking to people. That would throw one for a loop so tony pins killian with mark forty two are than has jarvis blow. Mark forty two so exploding him okay. You think he's dead. Tony blows up. And he's fine even though we know that blowing up in the extremist induced explosion is is a cause of death. Okay he comes out. He's like not in great shape and then hefner blows him up again in that does it is it just because he was in a frailer state that the second explosion kills them when the first one didn't not sure that totally tracks for we also. I love virginia pepper potts. I don't want anything to happen to her. However i didn't feel compelled to note that she fell not only from a great height but into a fireball and that that similar act kill other extremists soldiers. Right so all it. Does that make sense. It doesn't it doesn't it doesn't make a terrible lot of sense. Okay just making sure. Well i think we're we're. This is one of the reasons why iron man three is a you know. I would say fairly considered towards the bottom third of marvel movies. Some unevenness there even though there's some really interesting ideas i think particularly around tony's emotional state. Yes into trouble strongly agree. We'll talk about that momentarily so to finish up the by frostier. Tony has charvis engage the clean slate protocol destroying all of his suits. Because reasons. also that won't matter. Don't worry about he'll anymore next movie next avengers movie many suits. Don't worry about lassic. we're concluding this trilogy. But this trilogy exists today as an inferior would say larger universe. He wants to spend more time with pepper. And evolution of growth is a huge part of this story and the aftermath of all of this vice president who was part of the killian plot to bring down. The president of the government is arrested. Trevor have to say looks delighted by the media attention he loves it finally the bright lights. Tony has extremist removed from pepper. Why can i just ask why it seems pretty good like it's not saved her life. Is it just like you. Don't wanna be the weakest person in the couple like what. I perceive this in through the same lens as pepper deciding. She didn't want the arc reactor in the nightmares comment because she's not interested in that type of power actually embedding itself into her being. Obviously you know she'll become rescue. We'll talk about that a little bit more later. But that was kind of how i perceived it though. Yeah a little more exposition. Couldn't hurt as tony. Not you know. He figured out that equation while absolutely hammered in burns so he had absolutely no doubt that he could undo this which i guess things moved quite quickly in the plot. But if you could just do it maybe try that first before heading to the oil tanker anyway decides. Now's the time this is district. Here is the moment to have the shrapnel removed from his chest habit remote. Yeah now you have it removed. Now let me get this straight. You could had it removed at any time instead of that. What you decided to do was have a highly poisonous element embedded in your chest for a number of months if not years instead of just going. And having the shrapnel figure out what are we what are we doing. Why if this was if this seemed easy it seemed like the procedure was fairly routine. Once it came down to it they had a magnet above him. That's it came right out. The machines department and so is the shrapnel. I guess okay. He's doing great he's healing. He's watching downton. Slashing is with his nurse all of a sudden boy is he. Tony and pepper share genuinely touching romantic moment. Just the two of them and tony placing the shards shrapnel that were just removed from his body into pendant and around peppers neck. If there's one thing we know about their relationship it's as she loved the smell of the open chest cavity that inorganic discharge if you can get any of that and bottle it so that. She carries it with her. Always you have to do this. Think of billy bob thornton angelina jolie in the bottom the vial of blood that she used to carry around her neck. At least the blood is like is. The blood is weird but it can be a symbol of. It's a symbol of life. At least here's a thing that was like threatening tony's life it well it's all a matter of respective though it's a symbol of perseverance and purpose and this new phase of their life together. We're choices by on one. And this one. In the stinger tony toxin out processes trauma with his therapist. 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Episode's big idea so let's power up the arc reactor and the story. The defining team in this episode is scars about as we always do the film's development. This man three came out in may. Two thousand thirteen is the kickoff. Which somehow is seven years ago now which is like truly shocking to me. The kickoff film for phase two of the mcu one year after the avengers says the first film in that in that segment of the evolution of the mcu and the conclusion of what is the mc. Use iron man trilogy through robert downey genius. Tony circus obviously an absolutely crucial pillar in the film's going forward to face. Two and three inches inch voltron kept american civil wars spiderman homecoming infinity war and presumed game. And it brought a director. Change to the franchise. Shane black just absolutely titanic figure throughout the eighties and early nineties Wrote lethal weapon came onto direct. He also wrote this film along with drew. Pearce and this change of course makes iran through the first ironman movie. That jon favreau did not direct though as we've noted he remained a part of the project. Happy hogan boy ditty in december of two thousand ten so two and a half years before iron man three came out vulture reported. That fabs would not return to direct. That's how far out this swap upon and this change began just just interesting to think about in terms of the timing of all of us as pharaoh told los angeles times is jeff cook. Marvel and i both came of age together of age means ultimately. What moving on to new things eventually right. Enter as jason mentioned. Shane black who had fallen out of favor. Fallen out of the active hollywood cycle and resurfaced with kiss kiss bang bang in which he had cast rob engineer and as rda and and others have spoken about in the press quite a few times that performance from downey in. That film is part of a cau- favelas. I and led to casting choice in the first place as black down told the hollywood reporter benjamin suspect in two thousand sixteen black was promoting his at that time new film. The nice guys downey could salted with shane. Black while working on the original iron man movie in two thousand eight and then asked him to come on a drier man three once it was clear that fabric wouldn't be helming that felony more quote in two thousand ten. The phone rang spec. You wrote it. Was robert downey junior says black. He told me. I want you to write and direct in ironman picture and everything changed again again. Just in the context of our ongoing discussion of how rapidly things evolved in the mcu. We've gone from fabio having to work to convince the studio to cast robert downey junior in the first place not having the biggest contract of the actors on the cast list even though he was in the lead to him being able to in essence determine who was gonna come on to conclude his franchise really remarkable that leverage baby. You got that. He had the he had perfectly designed contract for this series blowing up. And guess what movie smash it. Domestic box office. Four hundred and nine million which you know when you look at it with the other marvel movies as as the universe expanded doesn't seem like much but it's pretty great eight hundred six million international which is fucking nuts one point two billion globally. There we have at our b. But as as we've mentioned divisive it netted seventy nine percent among critics. Seventy eight percent among viewers on rotten tomatoes and often a point of contention amongst people who would critique. This film was the twist the reveal that the mandarin is not the supervillain with the ten magical rings from the comic books but rather a struggling english actor named trimmer something else that fabric. Who told boucher in that. La times interview that we said it was quote. I look forward to seeing what others can do playing in the same world. This is notable in the context of discussing the mandarin twists. That it was really altered kellyanne putting trevor slattery in front of a screen. Fava's kinda famously in. Mcu media circles feature the mandarin his ironman films but was was prohibitively worried and ended up not doing it. The mandarin was in the original manuscripts scripts. You can read a lot about this. You're kevin feige you talking about this. And ultimately they him out and never found a way to do it for a couple primary reasons first of all the comic book canon. The character from the comics is racist is a racist caricature flat and can not be brought in as is to modern day movies. Without adjustments asian representation in bronze and silver age comics marvel comics in particular not create tony's origin story original origin story. Pretty racist even shang cheese going to have a movie Soon and has turned into a really really interesting character for marvel. And who's you know late. Seventies run as the master of kung fu was really puppy. Some interesting Artwork was pretty racist even for that time it was just a really at it was a blind spot for very very tough and the other obviously vastly less important factor. That farrow had has cited in interviews of the year is the mystical elements associated with the actor in the shape of those ten rings that you just mentioned that the character from the comics found no crash spaceship featuring contains the spirit they each differ power the power but as chabrol told mtv news back in two thousand ten. This is a an interview in a comment that we started in our first ironman pod. It's germane again here. Before he formally walked away from the project and the prospect of directing our met three and was talking about what may be would be in his ironman three. He said he wanted see the mandarin. Enter the cannon once the fcc had reached this point of widening in scope to the point that it incorporated not only the ironman cannon but more supernatural elements quote. You've got to do the mandarin. He told mtv news is larry carroll in may two thousand ten amid at that point ironman. Two's debut continues. The problem with the mandarin is that the way it's depicted in the comic books. You don't wanna see that. He then continued. He has ten magical rings. That just doesn't feel right for our franchise so it's either tech based or the rings are not really rings. But maybe with thor and all those other she'll introduce magic to that world and it won't seem so out of place welshing black had a different idea entirely. Some fans loved the surprise. Some fans hated the hashtag. Not canon nature of amending iron. Man's one of iron man's arch nemeses in this fashion. I the mandarin is not killian in the comics. Course second is. I will talk about later. Killian kills himself in the extremities comics arc. That said updating outdated and certainly problematic figure. I don't think and i think we both agree on. This is not a bad thing and that was very much central to the choices. Shane black told then. E w scribe anti president in two thousand thirteen coat. Part of it was that we would rather have the mandarin. Be of indeterminate. Ethnicity than the fu manchu. Stereotype that the comic books betrayed other reasons. Motivated blacks aversion as. Well that quote to it can continues. But that's not the only reason i wanted to do something. That was an interesting story choice. That felt like it was a little bit of satire. That was a little bit of our own fear in our own ways of viewing villains. Now barbara stood by choice of the time the steel as we noted in our first ironman pot in essence issued a med apology in the two thousand fourteen. One shot all hail. The king also written by of in which a documentarian visits trevor in jail screwing. Mary shouts to skirt heads in essence. That the real ten rings in the real mandarin are most displeased about killian and trevor's barraged. Love love scoot men skits great and also as we also noted in our first argument pod. It looks like marvel is poised introduced. The real managed to the story in the face for film shangen. The legend of the ten rings fantastic. Now let's talk about this. Let's talk about our three. How do you feel about this movie now. I want you to go i. I'm processing everything you're saying. Sure i i think they're a really interesting things about this movie and thinking in terms of the emotional landscape. I think you could actually argue that. This is one of the more interesting movies. I think the idea of the sick and emotional scars that tony has from his near death. The battle of new york you know facing down a really the end of the world and then having to make the decision snap decision to give up his own life really to save the entire planet to save his friends. It weighed very heavily on them. I think that there's a really effective seen when he is signing the autographs for the kids at the restaurant with with roads and the kid comes up any whispers to him. You know how did you get out of the war and it is. It is really chilling. And i think really effectively conveys the feeling of claustrophobia. And the feeling of the world conflict falling in on you and that idea of you know. How did he get out of that. All his intellect all his brilliance all his money all his wealth and he was lucky that time he got lucky and that lack of control lack of agency being this just ice cold a dagger in his psyche. I think that stuff is really interesting. And i love the mandarin twist. I love it. I think it's great. I had a lot of concerns first of all. It's hidden extremely well. I had a lot of concerts going to the movie. Seeing it at the time. Simply because you know. The history of the mandarin is very fraught. Obviously he evolves a great distance from his racist caricature routes. But that is you know a lot of the canon of the character. Is that caricatures. So i was worried about it i was worried about it and so i actually found the twist thrilling and i was like. Oh man what are they gonna go with this. Like what what what happens now. I thought it was really fun. That said there's just a lot of things about this movie that keep it from from from really fully realizing of the promise that was laid out in some of the emotional stakes. You know that were set up Through the first. Two thirds of the movie. I think that you know the blowing up all the suits and declaring i am iron man and all these things that kind of happened in the final third. That feel really tacked on they don't end up mattering and so therefore i. It's really a pulled punch. And i think you could argue argue also like a missed opportunity. I think because tony's trauma never really comes back. We don't really feel the repercussions of it. We move on to other sorts of trauma with the death of his parents and stuff like that. But we don't really get an extension of of the storylines that were set down in this movie. And i think that that keeps it from being one of the better marvel movies. I think and i think You know clearly the fact that the mcu kind of backpedaled from a lot of this stuff tells you that they didn't weren't that confident either. What do you think this. I think more than any of the other movies in the mcu. We've both rewatch these multiple times at this point just in the last few months while preparing to do the pod. I think iran is the one where i have the highest variants in. Whether i'm like i really underrated and dope or like man. I have actually just like a lot of problems with this is of based on. I don't know like. I don't know what's been different time to time. My mood. moodley do. I need a snack. I honestly don't know. But i find myself. We gonna seesaw with this with this film more than almost any of the others. Where i have pretty strong conviction about how i feel about most of the other movies i i'll start with the twist and then i'll work my way back from there. Sure i love the twist. We're gonna get dunked on so hard. But i is great. I thought it was great. Here's the thing when i saw this movie. For the first time. I had no attachment to the comic book canon behind it so i think that the people who really hate the twist are offended that something they know and understand and have come to view as part of their storytelling experience was amended so severely. Now i wanna say like to be clear. In general i really relate to that kind of response you know i. I got many times on this. Very i have. I am sat here with you and walked into this microphone. Now this exact microphone but into a microphone because of the way. That game of thrones portrayed. Let's say as one example. The ghost and john relationship in the nature of that work done because i was actually hurt by the fact that something cries fully and had that big of an impact on my life could be misunderstood and change in that way by the people who are entrusted to adapt story. So i very much understanding empathize with people who see adaptation of and they're like. This is not what i wanted to be. I will see that with this particular again to go back to the problematic nature of the character. I don't think that there is a world in which that exact rendering should be what we got right. You ha- you being the people who are making these movies and bringing the character into the modern day. Cannon have a responsibility to adapt and modernize the character. So i think that again to make it more just about my experience here. I just was like going in fresh air and so i just thought it was really clever and the the nature of the the the trevor mandarin character and then trevor as a character himself is just a riot. I think the ben kingsley performances exceptional absolute riot. I can't wait for your voice work today. Were in little finger territory here with like twenty different intonations and fluctuations. You never know what you're going to get after a few words and turns of phrase. I think that the aldrich killian part of it is whether loses me a little bit more. I think that gets to my larger kind of good concedes aachen andrea what the movie. Which is that. There are parts of it that i find quite moving and i agree with everything that you said about the film's decision to spend as much time as it does on tony's mental health and mental or emotional state. I think that considering the heroes as human beings like a core part of what. I love about these stories on what i love about talking about them and i really really enjoy that decision at creative decision and that part of the film. I also laugh a lot in this movie. I think that as usual robert downey junior is exceptionally has unbelievable quips and zingers. He gets some grand. So i'm aware that i'm aware that those comments will not make sense in a line with what i'm going to say next. Which is that something about the tune in the movie just feels a little bit off to me and i can't quite place my finger precisely on what it is. I think in part. I think a little bit of it is just that i got very used to jon. Favreau robert downey junior ironman synchronicity and energy and it's just the fact that it's a different filmmaker feels a little different as part of it. I think you know. I think for me. It's that the plot. Turn just from a purely mechanical. Prospective is basically the same. As i meant to. It's another guy. Who's mad at tony because tony hurt his feelings or previously. It was howard stark. But it's the starks. Hurt hurt feelings. Because of the starks. And now he's going to take revenge that to me. I i'm glad you brought up killian because that we spend so much time with the manner in building up the mandarin and it feels like there wasn't enough time exploring killian emotional landscape so tony was addict to him and he wants to kill him now. Like now we're gonna get a lot of our discussion today on trying to do exactly that because you're right. I think that's a smart thing to identify. Its it's it's foundational like probably talk a lot over the course of the run of the pod out marvel's quote unquote villain problem which has been an ongoing narrative in the pop culture realm for you know a decade that not everybody's low key right and i certainly think and again. This common is not about the twist. Which i think we both clearly ride for chilean specifically would be one of the poster villains that you surfaced to say just never really cared about this a lot and again i enjoy the comedy. I enjoy the emotional stakes. Some of it is about the way it all fits together. Like i middle of this movie. Wayne tony is in tennessee with harley through to his make shift break into the miami mansion and the trevor reveal is phenomenal. I totally. I mean it's a it's a classic it's a classic move right. You have a character who has an incredible strength so you take that strength away. And then what is revealed. And i think that that middle part of the film operates so well. It's tony living by his wits. Creating weapons from home depot. I just i love that part of it the same here but it is. He transitioning into the kind of a combination of the film is where it feels like. It feels a little wrote. It feels a little bit like okay. We'll blow away with all the suits But but why and again. I just it is a little bit of the villain problem to where it's like okay killian. Why was killing us doing this. Why why is he. Such the evil guy showed up to the rack. Zahn oil-tanker for what he knew would be because he had pepper their decisive showdown with tony. Stark iron man and he wore low. I he literally were loafers and i just would like to know more about how to make that kind of choice right. What is driving a person to do a thing like that. So i i think that's part of it and then there's something like you know the the stinger that you mentioned already with bruce and tony the reveal that were not actually getting like a traditional cinema voiceover from tony the whole time. This is his remembrance in his reflection on his life. I loved that part of it but it takes getting to that part for the for the voice over to kind of coalesce fill like it made sense the whole time. You're initially watching that. It's like why is tony talking to me this way. I don't really understand why. The movie was structured that way and then again when so much of the emotional stakes of the movie hinges on tony's introspection and personal growth. I i don't know. I don't mean to be like to to lame here but i kinda feel like all of that boiling down to a like i fell asleep. Joke at the end is just sort of lame. I agree at one and one more thing. Aim is kind of one of the foundational evil organizations of the marvel universe. Right are the as. We'll talk about later in this pod. They evolved out of hydra. They're really kind of like a parallel organization to hydrogen. Let's them it's rocks and really all we get is killian saying aim and that's it we don't we don't delve into it at all. We don't understand what we don't understand what they do. We don't understand what the motivation of them. I mean this is also an organization you could certainly could imagine playing a larger role in face four And we just don't we just don't go there at all and so that was a disappointment to me as well and just to briefly touch on the twist again the manage. Was i think a big a big reason. I liked it so much was just relief. You know because it was really. It felt like high risk to make the mandarin a huge part of this movie. And i remember feeling you know not a little bit of dread going into it be like i hope they don't make a racist movie right now and so there was a there was quite a bit of relief when it was like. Oh this is this is not only unexpected but actually really funny and good just those pieces of just. Don't quite come together. What one more point and this is something you touched on earlier the launch a face to the avengers which we just did another very long podcast about is like a remarkable moment in the history of movies and so that is definitely part of it. It's your only judging. This against the first two installments in tony standalone trilogy. But you have to of course compared to what came before and the movie consistently asks you to do that. By incorporating the battle in new york and everything that happened to tony in the plot of the avengers into this film i i raised that not as even a fair standard for judging the movie. Of course it's not going to be the avengers but to say this. I think that there is a lot of dissidence play as of you're the movie. Because there's just something incongruous about the experience it shrinks the scope and the stakes shrink dead and say broadly. I like that. And we're gonna talk about the same but more as we go. I think remembering again not not just the aliens and the portals into outer space but the humanity and the relationships between the people and the reason that they do the things they do is fundamental to what draws to this so i like that but it just feels more so than the other installments. A little bit apart like a little separate from the rest of the mcu. And i think that it feels more separate and more apart from the rest of the mcu then all but a couple other movies in the twenty-three movie. Ron and i think that that is shocking. Because it's an iron movie antonia's the forefather and the feast of mcu so that incongruity is just something that i think i struggle with Yeah i i agree with you and i think in a sense that some amount of that feeling i guess would be kind of unavoidable. Coming off at a high of evanger certainly thought to suffers from a little bit of this as well. Where doesn't let's say damn table that for now. But i agree with you i i. I think that there is also listen. They did a great job. Of of as we've said underlining the emotional impact of the battle of new york for tony this but i just think you know the sounds like a stupid nitpick but like just throwing in. Oh and he had the travel taken now. That was a huge thing now later. He's origin of his character. It's it's a metaphor for himself finding his heart and finding his morality. It's a way it's how you stayed almost killed dowry. It's almost kill them like it. Why he was poisoned diamond to and then should just be like i'll i'll get this taken out just felt stuff like that just feels a little slapdash to be like listen. These are comic movies but all these choices have to matter or else you just. You're going to check out a little bit and if that happens it's just you're not gonna you're gonna be like. Oh yeah these are these are. Cg generated movies about about Superheroes that's right that's right so i just think those tiny details not following through with those having tony them fine with him having the surgery. Take the shrapnel out but throwing it in the last minute of the movie to me is like wild. Yes certainly something fun movie. Let's talk when the actually why didn't try again. I think one of the more interesting really interesting. Marvel movie actually agreed. Okay let's talk about the actual plot now that we're an hour. Let's begin at the end with the reveal in the post credits. Stinger that the tony monologue that we hear throughout the film is not in fact as we mentioned traditional cinematic voice over rather tony sharing his memories and these events with bruce banner reflecting back on his own life. Now despite bruce telling tony. I'm sorry i'm not that kind doctor. Tony's desire here is very clear a therapeutic recounting and processing of his trauma and the pursuit of healing. The comes not from covering up one scars deciding not to look at them but from examining them with real intent. Thank you he says by the way for listening plus something about just getting it off my chest and putting it out there in the atmosphere instead of holding this in. I mean this is what gets people sick. you know. Iran throughs reputation as we've mentioned centers largely around the twist and the suits galore action packed. Pyrotechnics it is a great action movie. But this element of the film is really the most important legacy for airmen. Three ironman is a superhero. But tony stark is a human being a man in hand as he puts it two pepper early in the film and that man is struggling to cope with what he's experienced and there is something very jarring about seeing the issue shrink down again at the start of face to on the heels of the avengers which concluded phase one. And and just as in the case thor opened a portal into the heavens and open viewers and characters understanding alike of what was possible. How vast the universe was. But there's also something mooring about that something orienting a reminder for the stakes are and what the impact of these cataclysms are on the people who lived through them after the credits roll for us to be able to share all of my intimate thoughts in my experiences with someone. Tony tells bruce in the stinger. It just cuts the weight of it and half. You know it's like a snake swallowing its own tail. Everything comes full circle. And that is a apt description from tony because a snake swallowing its own tail is of course an herb arrose. A symbol of regeneration and renewal. The film opens with that narration. With tony's introspection his voice offering up this bit of wisdom as we watch his suits in his workshop. Explode famous men once said we create our own demons. This is the theme that we return to regularly at bench wrote and we've often cited emblematic examples of in every story we've covered rob marrying talisa and berry beheading lord carson voldemort marking hairy after hearing the processing the djeddai discouraging anikin from forming attachments. And on and on the list goes every store we've covered has some version of this including tony with ivanko and altron and here in ironman. Three with aldrich killian. And maya that opening paraphrased colonel insight from tony is presumably a reference to oscar. Wilde's famous quote. We are devil and we make this world are hell. It's also not to tony's most famous comics nineteen seventy-nine. St minute a bottle. Which as you've discussed stanzas signature achievement. In part because of the way it blends really action packed plot with considered examination of. Tony's vices his vulnerabilities and the way he stands up to pressure and stress for tony as we're reminded in the Ironman three opening. Those things can often inform each other queue up eiffel sixty. Five's blue agree. Great pop song drop into the into the we enough of these but when we do their delight and a flashback to burn two thousand the switzerland conference in which a absolutely hammered tony hand waves is eventual iron father and savior. Ho- eunson just get out of here. I don't have time for you asked. I'm not ready to talk about dear. Sweet johnson after the results of the first winners debate. Let's not let's not. Let's not talk about that. I'll just say that you've been more gracious in victory than i would have been and i know you know that. I'm just so used to it now. How catching a stray. How you anson and of course doctor. Dr wu the heart doctor who will one day remove the tony's chest but is visibly mortified to be in the presence of these men here any event at which tony so's what he will one day reap with my and aldridge the oldest. Tony tells us. Bruce relator find out. I never thought they'd come back to bite me. A more laid statement than it might seem given the source of this. Tony stark as talked about so many times already during our pods are marvel pods particular. Tony's the futurist looking onward forward ahead but he's often defined by the past from the legacy of his father's death to the fallout of all trump's wrath to the vengeful pursuit of a think tank. Founder he scorned but the has grip on tony calms not just from how those in his orbit respond to him but also from how he responds to himself. And balance york's and concluded the vendors has has left a mark on tony's life that he cannot ignore but is still working to understand tween grabbed. Hold of a nuke and flew into outer space. We can't say that year stared into the you know we talk about. We talked about that moment. The look on his face when he is gazing out into the into the abyss and knows in that moment at the prospect of his life is over his time with peppers. Time it's ironman is time trying to find a new way to leave an imprint on the world gone but he survived. But that's the thing living through something doesn't mean living without the impact of it or the mark of it keeps shaping you in new york has embedded itself into tony. As deeply as those micro repeaters. He inserted into his arm in this film. It has bound itself to him as fully as the armor which he sheets himself for. Aldrich killian the milestone moment of his life the catalysts that that scarred him but also fueled him is a moment. That means absolutely nothing to tony. And i do love that storytelling choice here. This is part of what drives those who are motivated by region hate. It's not just that killian. Recalls every gust of wind from the rooftop on which tony left and waiting in that wrenching feeling of disappointment and disgrace as god as he contemplated stepping off allege that he knows that interaction that defined his existence is a complete nine factor for the person who inspired those feelings in him. It's don draper's. I don't think about you at all to don't think about your elevator anguish. Stuff boy for forbids virga iconic don moments the movie weaves between these respective timelines of influence switzerland. Killian and maya new york for tony. Their specific scars stemming from moments that legions of other people in theory shared with the field. So they happen to them. Only them in their particular vacuums of shame and space shaping so much of what followed so. What is a scar. Exactly there is a remarkable moment in season. Wanna game of thrones one of our absolute shared favorites. When in an exchange that's written for the show rob rathi insertion. Lancaster discuss all of the misery that is passed between them over the years. You wanna know the horrible truth. Robert says after she asked him about leanna stark. I can't even remember what she looked like. I only know she was the one thing i ever wanted. Someone took her away from me and seven kingdoms. Couldn't fill the hole she left behind. It is a gutting seen portrait of the ways in which grief sometimes lingers even in the face of other joys other experiences and even the passage of time scars or not just marks they are reminders always of the wounds that spawned them sometimes in the good times. Those reminders bring courage and strength a testament to growth and progress and lessons learned. But not all the time. King robert has another memorable line in that scene and it is chilling. How long can hate hulu thing together for aldridge. Killing the answer is quite a long time as killian waits on the roof. Tony in my engage in foreplay via their scientific pursuits. If i'm right she says we can. Access the area of the brain that governs repair and chemically recode. Tony and maya talk about the potential applications for this genetic hacking this breakthrough they focus on the good at do the ways it can grow and repair and he'll But we in that moment the damage extremists can also bring when happy fingers. Maya's bush and a branch breaks often it explodes. Wow a precursor to the bombs. Killian will make human beings who can't withstand what. Maya calls here glitch for tony but before the events of this film moments like this from his past also served as a glitches in his mind blips temporary occurrences an encounters when he says forgot that night in switzerland these days. I'm a changed man. I'm different now. He means that he's ironman. The avenger right the hero assessing how that fact like all the other facts of his life have actually made him a different person account for the bulk of his emotional journey. In this movie. We can see right away. In the present day. Timeline that tony down in his workshop inserting micro peters for his next mark into his arm. Cruelly mocking dummy is not once cap on his head not nice. He's in like a like a manic state. Almost a frenzied state driver's tells tony that isn't slept in seventy hours. And he's as we soon learn. That's not just because. Tony is in a particularly inventive. Mood he cannot sweep. He's haunted not by the kiss that pad may should never have given it but what. He went through during the battle of new york. So this is where we find. Tony win the mandarin or at least trevor's portray over. The mandarin enters his life in. What we will learn is killian high priced high polish big blockbuster propaganda and control campaign. I consider myself a teacher. Actually you you gotta. You gotta do all the trevor lines. You are considered ourself teacher. America ready for another lesson. Slattery's character is a creation designed to wreak havoc and destabilise by preying on scars and fears. History is fodder for this campaign horrors to surface new in order to make a point in the two thousand thirteen anthony. Bresnik can entertainment weekly piece on the twist that we mentioned earlier in the pod. Shame black examined the push for the twist that he and his fellow screenwriter made quote. What if you sort of this all things to all people uber terrorist. What if he is the myth and in the end. That is what we're dealing with a created myth. That research group has perpetuated in cobbled together using elements from popular consciousness. It felt like it said more about the world we live in just having is to fight another terrorist as opposed to putting a spin on it that said something about the way we view terror. Perhaps i do like that. Incorporating gadget as incorporating people's real figuring a good that adds extra residents to treads line in this first video that we see in the film. You know who i am. He says which is as much about our expectations viewers and the subversion coming our way as anything else. But it's other things as well. It's a red herring for the twist to calm. And it's a callback to tony's you know why am wine from mere moments prior and also to what he wrote on the name tad that he left in maya's hotel room. You know who i am. This you know who i am. Line is a connection a connection between hero and villain reminder that while they're intentions cannot be more diametrically opposed north our methods for acting on those intentions. They are all of them. Tony killian the mandarin. Almost every character. In every person in the real world too has ever lived. They are the stories they tell about themselves and those stories are informed by the events that have shaped them killian through the mandarin he puts onto to. The public television's is trying to capitalize on the fear that he knows these stories these images these threats of terror will invoke and from that culture of bubbling unease james roses iron patriot emerges presented by the american president but designed unknowingly by the same forces that he is seeking to combat aimed designed iron patriot. Am killian stink. Tech he manufactured the poison and the antidote. We'll talk later boasting about supply and demand and the the the war of terror. Knowing that you will be able to turn the ladder into another version of the former when seven commands the suit from the government's perspective. Iron patriot is a symbol. Also a story also attempt at putting a soothing balm over the scar tissue that the mandarin keeps poking at keeps poking at and how is president. Ls responding bill morass in this montage of punditry that we get in the film by taking the guy they call war-machine and giving him a paint job and then we get a joan rivers line and they also renamed myron patriot. You know just in case the paint was too subtle. This movie is in on the joke. Though eager to its credit to explore the messages that we try to send whether through conversations with loved ones or the names we give to our comic book character. Creations tony on the rebrand. Those choices don't exist in isolation they're aimed at achieving certain end but they also stemmed from something that preceded them it just well focus groups all right roti tells dhoti i am iron patriot. Tony box. It sucks but tony's not just here to shit on the rebrand. He's desperate to help find the mandarin and everything roti tells him. Nine bombings dot three no bomb casings found piques. His curiosity rhody isn't just a fellow hero. He's a friend and he can tell the tony sanchez. Looking to do some cure work here and remember. It's not like tony. Has a lot of friends. Like thirty percent of his friend. Group is charleena's robots. Yeah like our fucking a is and robots. He's looking for a distraction here. Einstein slept three hours a year. Twenty says look what he did. People are concerned about you. Tony i'm concerned about you. Road says and when the kids and the dinner as tony to sign. They're drawing in which he has nuke strapped to his back and rhody mentions words york and the need for america to look strong in the face of new threats. Tony breaks the crayon reminding him as of his lack of control in the christmas story. Boy asks tony how he got out of the wormhole all of a sudden boom. His anxiety falls in on him and he flees the thing that is both a source of that panic and the protective casing from his suit is security. Tony can't believe it. I that there's nothing physically wrong with me. Thinks it's hard. It's his brain and he shocked to discover it's an anxiety attack me. he acts jarvis. After after jarvis eliminates all these other suggestions poisoning etc. Tony make so many things in life. Look he is brilliant. He's had some he's rich. He's charming innovative brave as he will only be willing to tell you one of the things. That isn't easy for him. Is confronting vulnerable moments like these where he has to face the reality that he's not this suit of armor he's a man he's flesh and blood and that means learning to process that things that have happened to him for for tony that bap processing will ultimately lead to clarity and healing for for killian though it just leads to calcification of his resentment when we see him. Sharpen profits all again sharp iron sutin slick backed hair real blow up literally in his case. Soglo up it's clear to us immediately. That a metamorphosis has occurred but not yet clear what resides under that shiny dragon tattooed. Shell and his. Jason will outline later today. In the sanctum part of the extremist process in the comics manifest in casing of scab like coverage round the subject this moss becomes a butterfly comp of cocoon evolution in extremities killing tells pepper is all about harnessing potential our mind. He tells her our entire. Dna in fact is designed to be upgraded showman. He's extremists with this newfound confidence and gusto hold on hold on. That's the universe my badge. That's the other thing about aldrich. Killian is so cheesy cornball. That's the universe. My bad among guy. His physical scars appealed as we will see the promise of something similar. A massive draw for those who crave extremists like the vice president. Say who wants to use it for a family member but killings emotional wounds. Still drive him. He could be doing anything with this power. Think of how. Maya started this all. She'll make that speech about the purity of initial intention later on. He is doing whatever he wants in some respects. He's targeting the president. He's starting tony but he's also in the office of a woman that he used to court. Who had no interest in him and happens. Munich relationship with and running the company of the man who scorned him his his vision. Board is not about changing the world. Actually it's just about following through on garage. He's thinking very small and consider what the word extremist means. In-extremis is a latin term shouts to quote unquote madly and her latin. Four in the farthest reaches or in extreme circumstances or at the point of death it is primarily used in the real world in medical context or is the name of a comic arc or is the name of a beloved doctor who episode chilean hasn't just employed maya's research help those who are in extreme circumstances but because he is in the farthest reaches of his thirst for vengeance justice gillian's hatred for tony resides in the core of him the empty slotted side of him that he identified for pepper in the three d rendering of his brain. Tony slides mark forty to the prodigal son into a slot in his mansion. Hammer needs a slot. Happy's alarmed by killing the familiarity with which he is a speaking to pepper. The sketchy nece of his body touching lobby of touch. He's very touchy man. Don't love that. something's not right. I don't remember that guy. Tony says as they video chat. Of course she don't remember happy says he's not a blonde with a big rack fully. But they're meddling and worrying as misplaced. Pepper is in control as always when killian pitchers by saying magin if you could hack into the hard drive of any living organism and recode its dna. She tells him it sounds highly. Weaponized will and she's of course right the therapeutic implications of extremists are killian public pitch but israel zion hinge on how they allow him to manipulate those pursuit of a solve as my father used to say killing tells pepper following her refusal to fund. The process. failure is the fog through which we glimpse triumph and he is of course right. We love lines like this ideas like this as different fire prints zucca once told sokha. You're gonna fail a lot before things worked out even though you probably fail over and over again you have to try every time. You can't quit because you're afraid you might fail but as we talk about so often philosophies don't exist in a vacuum intent shapes them in killings is warped shouts to my dude zuko when he's not taking part in numerous mass murderer attempts. Listen you said the key word. Attempts love redemption story also warped of course the massive rabbit that tony presents the pepper as a christmas gift and just needs to know how she feels about it and i can. I confess to you that for a very long time. I thought the the arms were breasts than anyone else. This day. I gotta say. I never looked they i never i didn't i didn't live long. Check it out back us. Their conversation about his hobby as they put it aka his obsession with creating the new suits. All of these new suits the new cocoons that he will exploded massive films end not only because they're pinching the bag i listen back donny. So literary and his obsession with tinkering is is the exchange they have here is actually quite illuminating. This isn't a new level of a laima pepper remarks when she realizes that the mark shorty to rubbing her shoulders isn't being remote piloted. Ed tony star. I will just say what earnest so funny. I love what that was like. I love when she comes in for smoking. Like you wearing this in the house. Now it's it's like so to me. I do love the way. He looks sitting there on the couch though. Of course the cash stain crouching by weight god when she finds him downstairs working out while having this conversation through mark forty two. Tony's insecurity is manifested behavior. That pepper rightly finds enraging. Initially here. you know. She really laments the fact that he is checking on our spying as he puts it because he's jealous jealous of her and killian while we do not condone tony's particular methods in this sequence to be clear. We applaud the candor that he finds the courage to port and share with pepper during this exchange. And also i. I'll just say that. I find the fact that tony stark. Who's supposed to be like the most. Enviable man in the world is jealous. I i like that. I think it's it's relatable and human scars do not heal cleanly on their own. They need help. They need salves bombs and sued the people who bear them. Nothing's been santa's new york. Tony tells pepper you experienced things and then there over and you still can't explain them guides aliens other dimensions. I'm just a man in the can tony. A man long famous for his ego and his impulse to always find a way forward is confronting the fact that he is in pain and also that he has met not his equal exactly but a set of factors and forces that have reshaped the buttresses that prop worldview and one of those buttresses. As we've seen is to live in the moment and then just move on but here we see the. Tony is reconciled with the limitations of that kind of transitory approach life. some things are not actually ephemeral. Something's last there is such tenderness on display between tonia pepper as he shares all of this with her and is always is a testament to their really unimpeachable chemistry and respective charm. Tony has a remote piloting device on his head and they're in his garage. Mark forty two is just standing there hanging out watching this exchange but none of that matters because that's the ironman brew that's that energy that we know and love and it works somehow in harmony with tony saying i love you. I'm lucky but honey. I can't sleep go to bed. I come down here. A do what i know i tinker threat is imminent and i have to protect one thing that i can't live without. That's you and my suits their Pepper pepperidge machines and he says the. Pardon me the luma threat. Tony sites here is as we know an obsession. It's not just the mandarin. It's the weapons and shields the tony others craft in an effort to protect against the horse. They've seen in the ones they've come to believe are coming. The kind that led fury and shield the strain. The avengers will do the same thing. Tony aged voltron and the kind that lead to mark. Forty two shockingly attacking pepper in bed as she. Tony sleep drawn to. Tony's implants designed with a clear mission to protect but called into action during tony's nightmare about new york. The machines has tony just told pepper are part of this one mark for to most of all is connected to him linked to him. It's a manifestation of his desire but also Is uncertainty certainty in matt. Fractions really excellent two thousand and eighteen thousand nine comic. Art five nightmares. Tony reflects on what his creations have made for others what those reactions have required of him in turn shown me what kind of man i have become me reflects himself after an arc defined by his own fear over what. He's what kind of things i have to do. To keep my nightmares from coming true and it feels like a nightmare. When we happy see tagore turn into a human bomb at the chinese theater after failing to regulate and savon regenerate his limbs and flesh and walkway unharmed from an explosion. That clearly should have killed him. When does healing and inventing working to push the boundaries. What's possible become tampering with nature. Recall our good friend ed. Norton's close out are confronted his quotes his insightful and thought provoking quotes that we discussed in our incredible hulk pod about the character of the hulk and the permission myth at how captivated ed norton was by the ability of comic book stories to grapple with that question of what happens to those who like prometheus steel fire or their version of fire from the gods or their version of the gods. What is killings extremists. If not that. But he's not interested in granting the gift of flame to other people. That's the key difference here. He wants to wield the flames that they become for his own purposes. He's publicly deployed. Mandarin is just another one of those flames. It's just designed to to flicker in a different light true story about fortune cookies. They look chinese. They sounded chinese are actually in american invention which is why they are hollow full of lies and the bad taste in the mouth. Quite point did as is tony's declaration of war on the mandarin for what he did to have you prone and hospital bed as downplays. The show politics here. Tony tells manner and through the media throng surrounding him. It's just good old fashioned revenge. Spokane actually like q leeann himself driven to harm somebody else because of the hurt that he is experience. That's a good example. Actually that tony media throng speech outside of the hospital and scene that i don't think works. That's just doesn't feel like tony. I agree but tony never acts on his emotional he smart and he least tries to be rational. His jarvis aided examination of the mandarin crime scene patterns is full of its sights. Quote the names nature and chinese war mantle meaning advisor to the king. He says fitting given trevor's public pond function. Tony observes the level of theater on display in these attacks the inconsistencies in the persona and the heat signature of a bombing in rosehill tennessee that the mandarin has not claimed when my it shows up at tony's home and he says you're not the mandarin in are you are you. It's one more way in which the film is priming with these contextual clues for the ultimate reveal their clues in their symbols everywhere. Tony's home is destroyed. The sued is both an anchor and a life raft and cases. Pepper helps her escape. And then drags tony down to the sea where he's trapped beneath its weight drowning under the force of everything that he is built but it also rescues him pulls him out polls them out of the ocean by the arm and then kassim to tennessee where he needs to be to accomplish his mission and suddenly tony's alone jarvis he says is his faithful companion powers. Jarvis don't leave me buddy suits out of power. Jarvis needs nap and peppers thousands of miles away tony as none of the toys and sports which has grown so accustomed but in the most charming subplot of the movie. Tony finds new toys harley twists in the workshop and rosehill ironman harley gasps technically. I am twenty replies. He and the sooner one but they exist apart from each other. What happened to him life. I built him. I take care of him awesome. Tony says like a mechanic. Yeah it's a very sweet moment and a revealing one in terms of how tony v.'s. Both himself and his persona. He's in pain. He tells harley he's been injured leave him alone. I love it so much. But it's an i remember be so there's also plenty of humor to go along with that heart. Dads leave twenty says to harley no need to be a pussy about it tony god kourtney. Here's what i need any less like. Fifty things including identifier sandwich. Is it tuna fish sandwich what you would be craving after that experience. I mean to each their own. But i guess like tennessee's yeah that's i don't like to eat ocean. Fish that far from the ocean no yeah. You're coastal elite. Now i mean. I like to eat locally. That's all tony and harley fall into such an easy answer rhythm with each other that it's it's difficult at hurry. Watch not only not to just enjoy this fully at such wonderful part of the movie. But not i think the bond that tony will form eventually with peter peter parker in whom he also sees so much himself and of course also in the love the tony will share with morgan. His daughter in endgame. Tony is not just to protect her. He's actually a nurturer. he's a teacher. We don't always think of him that way. But it's true a little rough around the edges. Maybe sure with you know he. He he doesn't pull punches. He doesn't baby. He finds his very specific. Tony ish way to guide. And it's always a joy to watch tony ribs harley you keeps going through my head. Were's my sandwich thinks ask him who bullies at school enhanced tool for standing up to that bullet now on the one hand giving weapons to children is very like look for our guy territory here for tony. I would not condone that south on the other. Tony shows real empathy in this sequence. He knows what's fueling his hobby. He recognizes this source of pain and harleys life twitch. Those magnets and those potato are a response and harleys eager to return the favor to discuss. Tony's life and tony's trump's. When can we talk about new york. Yes when they go to visit. The chad davis bombsite and tony. Another anxiety attack. Now to to to be clear because we've we've complimented and condoned the film's interest in exploring this aspect of tony's life and evolution the dialogue. The language of how to discuss mental health say is not always exactly sensitively handled in the course of this but there is is something very moving about tony's willingness to let harley see him in this way he's not ready to talk about new york yet but he's learning to share his learning to move beyond the inhibitions that initially felt about showing those doubts to anybody. When tony finds chad's mother he and we can see right away. That grief has crumpled her life as we heard from harley. Her son's death is local legend tall tales about the shadows. He caused his own doomed. Soul would terrible wait to have to carry around the small town where everyone knows you and wrongly as tony conceived right away when he flips through the file she handsome such as the gravity of the situation that the openness in tony's heart that he took something that he was just handed and he sees that the military pattern he thought he identified in his workshops. Were well-founded there's haggard. Next davis in the file on tony will soon realize is aims. File killings file. Miss davis sunday can kill himself. Tony says i guarantee you. He didn't kill anyone someone used him. Tony knows the damage. The knowing that dow can cause he can't read it of himself. He can at least try to save someone else that feel after. Tony defeats hot wings. Walk right into this one. I've i've dated hot chicks and you got cheap trick and a cheesy. One liner sweetheart. That could be. The name of my autobiography and temporarily thwarts eric. From harley's help so sorry. I'm so sorry sight your fault kid. Remember what i told you about bullies. He and harley have another legendary admitted you need me. we'll connected to go home with your mom. Keep your trap shut guard the shoot stay connected to the telephone call. You better pick up. Can you feel that we're done here move over. I'm sorry. could you do good name here. Like my dad. Wait your guilt tripping me. aren't you cold. I can tell you know how i can tell. Because we're connected that when he does the how because we condemn it and then just peels away. That is just unbelievable. That's the true king moment from robin money. Tony's emotional mental breakthrough is is still underway. But his intel breakthrough is in full effect at this point in the movie. He ever chick straddling you and you look of and suddenly. She is glowing inside. Audi s. ready has like Yeah that sends me. It made me made me think of Huey and starlight from the boys. That's very specific. Description of their exact boy spoiler. The section decide found myself suddenly craving of vending machine. Almond joy lifesavers those things. I'll tell you yeah indeed. I'm more of a mounds person. Just to be clear though. Obviously that wouldn't have proven useful for that particular plop went anyway with the help of roadies log in which tony he loves to mock and the extra juice provided by good old gary and shannon avatar all tony fans tony accesses aims files and the picture of the slide. Puggle starts to clarify further into focus. We see l. andbranch. We see chad davis. We see other injured veterans and their labeled in these video files as extra candidates. What would you regard as the defining moment of your life. We hear killian asked davis well I think that would be the day. I decided not to let my injury beat me. The real real viciousness and violence and horror. Bulged killings plan is revealing itself here. He isn't recruiting people who want to harm or at least not only people who want to do harm. Of course saf seems to relish. He is leveraging the desire that these candidates have to heal. Chad davis has embraced. A scars has accepted while they're part of who he is. They don't have to define him his choices in his actions can do that. And killian has taken that growth that noble perspective and completely manipulated and worked at. He calls his candidates misfits and cripples but with prejudice not with any of the tenderness that we would hear say tyrian. Lancaster express such a sentiment. My at least is a human being with the ability to feel shame and guilt because of her role in all this before that role is actually revealed she tells pepper werner von braun with incredible of females planing from my hands and piper doesn't know the story of that's fine. Yes peppers all caught up on operation paper clip both. Emc's for real world. I see we all begin wide eyed. She says pure science and then the ego steps in the obsession. And you look up and you're a long way from shore. My still chose this path. Both in the film and in the commerce course. She believes she's justified. Because while the good her research will eventually do q tony Whining about the intel crops and the funding and half the power. That cheating that goal will require she. Rationalizes the means because of the ends. She is not absolved. She has agency in the she is a tremendous amount of responsibility and everything that's happened. But she is aware that somewhere along the line. The small compromises. She made have dramatically altered the course that she is on as we talked about before we anikin and ben solingen lancaster and in an inverted sense with our good friend. Tom even tempting. Redemption is not possible without at first displaying remorse. Which means recognizing that you have gone down a dark path. You've gone the wrong way. And it's hard to see that here when my offers pepper to killian as bait nor at the beginning of her exchange with the imprisoned tony strapped to a box spring just like old times She says oh yeah zip ties to ball great stuff. She doesn't have a twelve year old kid in the car. Like twenty feared murray. He's actually but she still has the name tag left her and burn with his equations scribbled on the back which of course tony doesn't even remember my beliefs recreation which is destroying as many lives as it saves can be stabilized. And she no tony. And she knows. Tony's the one who can help her figure out how she's von braun too far off. Shore this what. You've been chasing around tony asks you don't remember as with killian. The idea is almost too much to bear that something that is this fundamental this huge in her life. A real fork in the road moment is not even a thing is not even a blip in tony's might. He has no ability to remember this. You used to have a moral psychology. He tells her used to have ideals wanted to help. People mallika chew. I get to wake up every morning with someone who still has their soul. This is absolutely trenchant stuff from tony. Penetrating in a way that shows how much he has grown. He knows what he fears. He knows where blind. Ambition can lead a person before that sequence tony's not in the metaphorical watered bite. Because he suit still has already for him he has to pull over on. The side of the road is terror over that realization grips him. He can in his mind not enter the field without it doesn't trust himself without that casing despite the fact that he is the one who made it in the first place which means he can do it. He is capable of it. It is the product of us. Genius and inventiveness enter harley sage beyond his years. Oh god what am i gonna do. Tony says they're on the phone together. Just breathe really just breathe. You're a mechanic right right. You said so. Yes i did. Why don't you just build something love that moment q. What zach rampart. Dewey summed up as home alone style. Weapons construction for tony's entrance into the miami mansion exploding christmas tree ornaments a electrocuting glove fit for an equallised in in season one of legends of cora etc and then twist trevor time again. Just try to try to put yourself back in time and remember your response when you saw this movie for the first time and tony infiltrated the man's hideout and ben kingsley's fearsome villain immersion to view and said as the toilet flush behind him while i wouldn't go in there for twenty minutes now which one of you has been esa. Oh absolutely iconic stole my god man. I mean twenty minutes. I don't know we we get a little glimpse trevor's diet. I might give it a little longer than that. Tony is befuddled. Where's the guy he seems. Tv who is twitchy brit talking about winker and fake guns. You've met him. I assume killian wool later. Ask tony and he says a skilled me. Yes sir lawrence of blue. It'd be a amazing fads. Just that's that's the best back with trevor here. He's here but he's not here. He says he's explaining that he's the front man. Is this a rule. The mandarin seasonal real. That had you get travel will do problem with substances and abdoun things new two ways about it in the street that a mansion do next then they approached me about the role and they knew about the drugs. What did they get you off. Them said they give me more plastic surgery. A house yacht drugs in return for a public face he did. Somebody take credit trigger. Says and it clicks for tony killian he created. You aimed designed the manner in this manner and to prey on public fears shared scars. His think-tank think did up the pathology of a real serial killer the manipulation of western iconography ready for the listen blah blah blah. How a trevor. Meeks oh wow. I mean i think you. It seems like maybe they're paying him in in the in job. You got the things liverpool game you've got vanessa. And the other quote birds. You got whatever the drugs are. You got all of the toys. The man's a nice toiler perhaps a day. Yeah i guess you're right there because there's no way they let him walk away like when it's over and trevor will never be seen again. The trevor videos may be staged manufactured produced terror but killian 's acts are real. Those human bombs actually did they actually did kill people. Real people died when kilian enters the room. In which tony and myers speaking. He's just upfront about his role in it. How could i be pissed at you. Tony i'm here. Thank you you gave me the greatest gift that anybody's ever given me. Desperation instead of folding under the weight of the bidder crushing disparity win. Tony left him up on the roof. He found a lesson that pain purpose and clarity in being on c. Which by the way was it that big a deal again. You eat tony shop at a meeting. Twenty minutes up on the roof. I mean honestly seems like a great view. I earned switzerland lovely and by tony and then tony. If you're tony just listen. And my call them. I've got some stuff going on tonight. I'm real busy tonight. It is new year's eve. Just here's my card drop me. An e mail dropped my assistant in email and let's get together later a couple of days later from now not tonight. But that's the thing. Right is the tony didn't do that. He just completely embarrass him and belittled him and didn't didn't care didn't think about how it would feel to. Just wait up there alone with the with no follow through and also like he's working up all the courage to meet his idol his whole life that point hinges on that moment in that conversation that just fizzles out. It feels hopeless he. He's full of despair. I feel it instead of folding under the weight of bitter crushing despair. He felt when tony left him. Get on the roof. He found a lesson in that purpose and clarity and being unseated anonymity. Tony thanks. You spend my mantra ever since right you simply rule from behind the scenes because the second you give you a face bin laden qaddafi a mandarin you had people at target aldrich killian burner account guy. That's what i'm hearing. It's pretty smart. As killian shows him a feed of pepper receiving extremists. Maya tries to arrange his escape by leveraging her work her research killian without hesitations. You mentioned in the by frost shooter. You are a maniac calling your shot there. You won't do it. You won't kill me. He's like i'm good. I wait ago. There's something really grounding for tony in this moment. This reminder that wormholes aliens and all that cosmic stuff exists. But they don't change the fact that sometimes other people are the worst things around nokia's visionary his boasts savon after excavating rose from his armor sickening. I'll own the war on terror. Create supply and demand real kind of vodka slash homeland or stuff and also a real tie in to the extremists storyline in which the plot was to create funding for the project by creating terror. Creating the enemy fit. Kilian can then take the credit for destroying the real visionary of courses tony who summons mark forty two S he's chained to the bed and as he whirls around one repulsive gotland on a hand one boot on a foot zipping about and whirling through the air and the rest of his armor somehow stopped by a wooden door. A small lock in a tennessee. Shed i i did. This is mark forty two. I don't understand that anyway. Low energy but still the workshop vibes of the film. Remain on full display. Your these are the moments where the zooming in shrinking down after the vendors feel not stranger disorienting but actually anchoring that oh gee marvel brew mechanic at work figuring it out. Six things honestly. I hate working there so weird. One of the guard says is tony's blasting his way out it's a great moment and then we get a a a nice meadow moment when tony is presenting trevor to roads. This isn't mandarin. Herat says i know. It's it's embarrassing and of kim joy to roll can't wait to spill all the deeds a big bug. The coast and vice president does that matter. I love when he's like. I don't know pepper pepper. So funny is great. Thank you trevor vice. President is it transpires in league with the mandarin we see his daughter a member of his family missing the lower part of her her right leg and clearly the veep intense us extremists to heal her. That's what is motivating him and then he might be. He might be driven by the start helper but that does not forgive of course the calculation that he's made it's a a sharp contrast specifically to the one we see tony make in that same moment when he remote pilots mark fortitude to air force one despite roads telling him that they have to choose between saving pepper or the president. In that moment. there's only time for one. It's right the old batman. Rachel controversial maryland. Monkeys couldn't the president so it's time for the house party protocol eager heartbreaker red snapper onward to the rocks on oil shipment. Gillian's continued efforts to use public tragedy for his own ends. He's not a part of the tesseract energy. Russia doesn't care about the oil wars quote. I just needed a reason to kill you. That would play well on tv. This is what makes killian so dangerous at doesn't actually have 'cause he wants to play. God he wants to feel strong. He wants power. He likes being puppeteer and pulling the strings but he doesn't need to be the star of it he just wants to read it. He wants to be the director. He's lost control. The plot will here we are. He tells tony as they battle on the roof. He thinks he's pending the perfect conclusion that he's worked his way toward all this time. He doesn't realize that. Tony desperately morning pepper. Now is the ability to write the script. Tony seeing mark forty two skittering back towards him calls a suit of armor his prodigal son a reference to the biblical parable about laps and forgiveness the road to redemption that we traveled together. Do me a favor and blow mark. Forty two says after pinning killian inside of encasing him in tony's achievement of progress no more false faces killings crispy broken forms as he limps toward tony following the explosion. You said you wanted that manner. And you're looking right at him. It was always me tony right from the start and then babri kills them in an explosion. Even though the last one didn't kill on antoni plausible suits and all the stuff that we already went through plot mechanics of the endgame aside. The heart is at least there again with pepper. Antoni figuring out the way forward together. It's not called the clean slate protocol for nothing right. Tony's no longer the same person who exists in a state of permanency and pepper have each other as so because of that they had their bearings. Together antonius earned that it is okay to have problems. It is okay to have scars. That's part of life discouraged. Don't have to define you the way that you respond to them does. That's what i do. Twenty tells pepper. I fixed off. And with his shrapnel around peppers again very weird harleys workshop fully stocked. Which which. I love his chest. Piece cast into the sea ended dummy sweet dummy and you pulled out of the rubble. Tony enters the next phase of his life one defined by more avenging and more battles despite the trilogy concluding suit destruction might told but also in this defined by a new sense of self and a sense of what it looks like a work to try to understand and embrace who you are while also still working to grow. I guess i'd say my armor. It was never a distraction or a hobby. Tony says it was a cocoon and now i'm a changed man. And then echoing his famous sign off from the first ironman film. He continues one thing. You can't take away. I am iron. Pizza is the perfect companion to a ni- with your favorite movie or show. Now you can get a new ten dollar tastes on my goodness from pizza hut. You can get a large pizza. Hell yeah and you can top it your way and that means up to three topics are you kidding. No serious up to three toppings for just ten dollars. There's a reason that no one's ever out-pizzas the hut folks. You know what. I would put on my taste maker. Pizza i put on. 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Purchase things uncertain. Times as i've been thinking a lot as i'm sure you have about what things will be like when they get back to normal so that naturally brings mind the concept of normal. What does normal mean normal. To whom normal seems to me is or was a space of relative stability created because the worst outcomes of the economic and political system were held beyond the reach of everyday experience for most people in the same way that my spending is someone else's income someone else's stability is someone else's chaos in that sense the extra storyline about a brilliant billionaire ex arms dealer attempting to atone for his past by fighting a superpower white supremacist. Terrorist is kind of bracing read in twenty twenty. Tony bill does wealth on the bones of people who perished from his weapons. As long as those people died on the other side of the world. it was really fine. It was not a big deal at all. It's not until the destruction wrought by his weaponry touches him. In the form of shrapnel from his own landmine that e kinda has second thoughts about the entire process many ironman stories. Reckon with tony's guilt perfume. Do it as successfully as extremis. It's probably the most influential ironman stories and steaming in a bottle running from january. Two thousand five april two thousand six stories heavily informed by the political climate in the us created by the iraq war which was just at that time spinning out of control extremist modernized. Tony's ironman origin. Story setting it in a conflict which really still ongoing updated his tech his abilities an amt his power levels to their highest levels then seen when the military shuts down. Its latest super soldier concern. Extremists future farms lead. Researchers maya hansen aldrich killian refused to let the project though they steal some of the serum and start looking around for new benefactors eventually selling their services to a white nationalist militia group. That's the short range plan. There's a long range plan to acquire funding which involves setting a conflict up with ironman which shows how potent extra mrs which then causes it to be funded by the government once again. Tony meanwhile is at a crossroads in his life z. Younger tony stark than we're accustomed to spending time with the handsome young playboy is just now beginning to reckon with the hollowness of his current life and the repercussions of his past life. When we meet stark in the opening pages he's being interviewed by the journalist. John pillinger for documentary film about his role as an arms dealer in his current attempts to steer stark international into less morally reprehensible businesses. Protesters are a constant presence at stark facilities Pillinger asks tony. I about the seed. Pod bomb created for the us air force. The seed pod was tony's first success in the weapons business each pod contained hundreds of smart bomblets in each bomblet contained the explosive power equal to three sticks of dynamite. The us military. I deployed the seed pod during the First gulf war ninety four. Tony was the tender age of nineteen. At the time quote. It was intended to destroy airfields and cripple armored. Convoys tony says tens of thousands of these were dropped in that conflict alone. Nearly one fifth of bombs failed to performance designed however and the unexploded munitions litter the theater of conflict. Children find them. Pillinger tells tony stark's next. Smart weapons success was the stark sentinel. Landmine these land stark notes form the spine of the secure gordon. Separating north and south korea many others pillinger tells stark later found their way to the international black market in the conflict in east. T- more start denies any knowledge of this. This is probably a reference to the nineteen ninety nine timorese crisis when Seventy eight point. Five percent of registered voters and his team were cast their ballots for independence from indonesia. Independence militias supported by the indonesian military. Then went on a rampage leaving upwards of a thousand people dead later while in afghanistan and insurgent attack causes one of stark's minds to detonate mm-hmm and sending shrapnel into his chest millimeters from his heart stark has taken prisoner in captivity. Of course we know the rest with the invaluable help of designs a suit of armor which he uses to escape he then returns home becomes a superhero founds the avengers albeit secretly. Because nobody knows that he is iron man at this particular time and is out and sets about weaning. His company off of military dollars stark secret identity keeps him busy. Course much to the consternation of sark international's board who would like a more accessible. Ceo the board precious tony to take chief technologist role in extremis but fearing that. A new ceo would steer start back into weaponry. Tony always refuses. Meanwhile the domestic terror group that acquired the extremists technology has successfully powered up one of their own members. Extremists is an injectable biological nanotechnology payload which rewrites the subject's genetic code specifically the area that tells the body had to repair itself in the first stage of the process the nervous system attacks subjects own body breaking it down piece by piece and replacing it with extremists upgraded cells and tissue quote the entire body essentially becomes an open wound. Maya tolstoy any at this point the subject falls into a coma and the skin hardens into this really gross. Cocoon of scabs. At this point. The subject is hooked up to life supporting given intravenous nutrients while inside the cocoon extremists working to replace the entire body muscles bones oregon's etc now. If it works as it did with malan the subject emerges two or three days later as a super soldier. The hypothetical we were given my it tells. Tony was to build a three man team who could take full lucia on their own. Mallon shreds tony. In their first encounter he is incredibly powerful. He takes a double repulse for blast at eighty percent power square to the chest. And just shrugs it off. He moves faster than tony can actually operate his armor faster than stark's targeting system. And he's strong enough with just one hand to crush iron man's gauntlet mallon maims tony and absolutely would have killed him. Had backup not arrived in time mellon then escapes on foot. Moving three hundred miles per hour overland to washington. Dc at a run. Tony knows that he has to head off malan. but even if he was healthy and didn't have a broken leg a broken arm and various other internal injuries. It absolutely would not have mattered. Tony of course we know is constantly tweaking. The iron man armor he shaved the suits input lleyton sees down to the bare minimum and still mellon is just too fast for him. Tony needs to be plugged directly into the suit. Somehow he needs it to be a part of him and he knows extre can do that so with my help. Tony reprograms the extremist compiler and undergoes the process himself twenty four hours later tony emerges from the cocoon with significant upgrades instead of having to put on the under sheath portion which is the crucial form-fitting layer which allows tony to interface with the armor. He now carries the under sheath in the hollows of his bones and he can summit out at will. His extremist altered nervous system is wired directly into the sheath and toni can now control iron man with his thoughts. Tony pairs these abilities with a more flexible model of the iron man armor. This version is all made out of memory medals. He tells my and electrical charge makes it snap into shape in the molecular structure. Cole meets into super hard planes. Most of the interior elements can press to about ninety percent of their working volume. It's tougher faster and lighter than the current unit. But i couldn't miniaturize controls. I still needed the under sheath the hard up torso and the helmet system and quote no longer simply by thinking about it. Tony opens his briefcase. And the armand jules fly to him much like an iron man three meets mallon again. He kills him though he tries. Hard not to do it and then at the end. He's like so frustrated he just kicks mallon lot. Lada kick the corpse dead corpse very very tough. That's the way to show your frustration with having to kill mallon anyway. Tony then realizes that killian could not have stolen the extremists. Without maya the serum was kept in a vault volts required to keys in the keys needed to be put in at the same time meaning to people needed to steal this. My you're in trouble. He has her arrested. I would have used the renewed funding. Get out of the arms race. Maya says the only mistake i made was giving a damn about the man inside the urn suit. There's no difference between us tony. You're no better than me. And there's a really interesting panel there where They showed tony thinking about this statement. Really quietly and then he says. But i'm trying to be in the wake of the extremis arc. The mandarin back from the dead and acting really philosophical gets involved in tony's life once again he fakes his identity and nichols his way into government. Op to guess what resuscitate the super soldier program folks. Stop with. This already patrol. When will they learn. When will they learn This particular project was called project. Prometheus and the mandarin make sure that maya hansen is hired as part of the program. They fake her death to keep tony from realizing that she's involved in in remaking super soldiers and the mandarin plan is interesting. This time he plans to create a utopia how you say. Oh by creating an aerosol version of extremists which would kill over ninety seven percent of the world's population including himself so let it be said that the manner in is not selfless in this particular positively fantasy. Only those lucky very very few with the correct gene sequence would survive with. We should add extremity powers that would result from this that would make them impervious to suffering and disease. There's your utopia folks. it's a you know a again. Weirdly selfless plan in a certain sense. Even thanos wouldn't would say ninety seven percent that's why he be closer to fifty. Yeah interesting aside. This art contains as from two thousand seven and contains a multi page iron man movie preview with commentary from the then vice president of marvel studios jeremy lachamann a short comic written by fabra with art. Biotic runoff tony. Meanwhile at the time is the director of shield he eventually manages course to foil the plot now in storytelling good storytelling. Every gift comes with a curse. That idea is central to tony stark. Ed norton would argue that bruce banner as marvel's prometheus. If that's i guess we would say that. Stark is marvel's faust the character from german legend who trades his soul to the devil in exchange for immeasurable intelligence and earthly pleasures. Extremities may tony. Better than ever course. The creator became the creation merged with his armor to better work that armor extremist rewrote. Tony's nervous system. Tony conscious mind. In other words continues to work at normal speed below that his rewired neurons were operating at light speed. Processing vast amounts of information the result is tony began to suffer from delusions and hallucinations. As the data. That was over filling. His brain is stored in his subconscious and then his subconscious began to overflow. He has to wear an extremity. Dampening ankle bracelet to keep him stable. During this particular story line and it was of course inevitable. That extremists would get out into the world into the hands of super villains of politicians into the hands of predatory capitalists. This is the theme of so many ironman stories. See altron see armagh. Were see the five nightmares and so on and so forth in the believe storyline from two thousand thirteen aim advanced idea mechanics kidnaps my up. They forced brew up new strains of extremist before killing her in an attempted escape. She's really dead. This time aim then auctions. Off extremist to the highest bidders payable only in gold bullion and tony spends the rest of the are chasing down the buyers and their newly created extremity enhances defeating them one by one really funny a part of the storyline. Is tony sneaks into the auction just to see what's going on. See what aim is up to you to make sure that this is all on the up and up and maybe poses a buyer himself and the way that he disguises himself as he shaves his moustache and he walks right in already recognizes him. Listen if the opposite. Worked for your favourite mets manager. Mr valentine this work madani. Why should it not work. We've mentioned aim so. Let's talk briefly about advanced idea mechanics. The combination think tank tech consortium and non state military group aims goal is quite simply the acquisition of wealth and power by technological means this mainly entails the development of cutting edge technologies and energy sources and the acquisition of cutting edge technology by any means necessary often by outright theft by the hands of their robust military and counter intelligence arm. So on the one hand they are a terrorist organization a former division of hydra with a cult light quasi religious internal culture and their very own island on the other hand they are publicly traded company that as in the film has had tremendous success selling technology and weapons to the us government even as it works to undermine and eventually overthrow that government very complicated stuff. I leader after its split from. Hydra was doc emma o. d. k. Your hands for. I love this guy which stands for mental organism designed only fr- kill league Probably during the name probably a heavy metal name in the marvel universe now mode doc. Formerly george tarleton is a twelve foot tall humpty dumpty looking ahead with little and i mean little. In contrast to the twelve foot tall had probably normal sized little stubby limbs that moved mohawk. I'm saying moore dock moved using anti-gravitational chair much like barron vladimir heart and dune formerly in aim scientists mode doc was created to study the cosmic cube which in the comics is also a creation of aim but he quickly became the leader of the organization. After he murdered his handlers. Fun fact mode doc. Mental organism designed only for killing is actually mode oxen creation. The original name of mohawk was amodeo see mental organism designed only for computing. After moda killed his handlers. He was like actually time to read. Changing the okay. Just to warn everybody that i mean. Business aldrich killian as we mentioned is my enhances co researcher in the comics but the closest comics analog to the a movie version of killing his andrew forcing aims former scientists supreme for and felt that aim had lost its way so using teleported technology sprung the super villain genius the wizard from prison in the hopes that he could literally help them come up with some fresh new ideas for the organization he just wanted them to get back into the ideas business force and later become scientists supreme subjects himself to a mysterious process. That's appears to be like a fusion of technology and magic which allows him to see visions of the future and he then oversees the organization's public unveiling and moved to the caribbean island of barbuda which is now known. As aim island shouts to andrew foursome. The island part. At least sounds great. It does it. Does touch uva touch zeke stain in the ironman three aldridge chilean characters. While with the whole who the zeke's and five nightmare sark in particular. The whole here are my soldiers who are going to become bumps and jason. I love the way that you describe the snap at the armor made me feel like i was listening to paul. Hollywood talk about a biscuit and big lava snap. Now that's all you've got a cheap trick and a cheesy. One liner subaru. You have some nuggets. Because it's time to collect six of our favourite insights and observations from this film like so many infinity stones and six were once again ryan launch today. We're going to another super fast. Light year round version of the six. Today you go first okay. We'll hurry steve. Keep us honest here number. One limb when tony slices off aldridge gillian's left extremist powered arm during their climactic battle. In this film. He's launching a new fees to tradition marvel honoring star wars by chopping off characters arms. Like so many kids luke's in general grievances which kevin feige revealed to cinema blends eric eisenberg in two thousand fifteen interview. Aptly titled marvel secretly cuts off hands as star wars tribute years proof. Here's a quote from feigen that interview quote. I'm obsessed with star wars and it didn't start out as intentional but it became intentional including that beat that you referenced. It sort of happens in every star wars movie. But i was sort of looking at it. Okay is face to fire strikes. Back about really amazing. The totally things are a little different. Some buddy gets their arm. Cut off in every phase two movie every single one and quote to which we can only say good kevin good to rocks on corporation that battle between tony killing takes place aboard the rocks on oil tanker and earlier in the film trevor's fo mandarin stages of fo- execution of iraq's on account and thomas richards continuing the mcat's tradition of brief nods roxanne the oil corporation that's more central evil fo in the comics one rocks on negative note for film fans while bucket executes thomas parents in the mcu he's uninvolved at least as far as we know right now in the comics but according to nineteen ninety eight's the iron age comics roxanne and energy rival of howard stark's is a leading possible susta. How dare you roxanne number three rescue if only done his parents of awareness of protective armor like pepper. Because of course one of the great thrills vitamin three comes from seeing pepper d'antoni's armor which teases her movie futures the hero rescue in the comics. The rescue armada one debuted in two thousand nine's invincible. Iron man number ten and toadies kuni. The project was ironman or remark. One six one six. Because p is the sixteenth the alphabet. So it's shorthand for p. P. peppers initials very charming and very sweet. We of course will see peppers rescue armor and the mcu as well in avengers endgame when pepper. Antonis daughter. morgan. We love you. Three thousand morgan plays with the helmet after finding it in the garage and then when pepper don's the full ironman mark forty nine suit to help battle than us number. Four iron patriot. Speaking of comics armor before james rows becomes iron patriot in the comics. gambit number. Thirteen may two thousand thirteen the same month in which iron man three premiered. Norman osborn ak the green goblin wore the armor and assumed the alias. Wild stuff as we mentioned in our first ironman pod documents and daughter dr. Tony ho spent a spell his iron patriot as a member of the us. Avengers after i into rescue and we now have a new iron patriot. Sharon carter who debuted in the iron patriot. The september and time he coats and robert quinn's captain america number twenty three lovett number five. Some extremists soldiers. Killian three main extremist soldiers and airmen through your all comics characters to eric. Savon subject of tony's absolutely iconic. Og west roll. Call out here in. This film is known as cold blood in the comics. While jack taggart's characters alias is firepower meanwhile l. andbranch aka. Our good friend hot wings is a comics. Eam agent. who's married to ted sallis. Notable as one of marvel's myriad obsessive super soldier serum pursuers firm. Something goes wrong in love. Character becomes man thing and we're six a few quick cameos. Stanley makes his signature cameo. This time is a very energized. Judge beauty pageant. Tony's a christmas story mentioned carries some rich mcu significance as peer billingsley. Who played young ralphie in a christmas. Story plays william get to revive an mcu ak scientists who earns the tony stark built this occurs rebuke from stain. Man any joint specs mysteriously troop spiderman far from home. And of course we forget. The mysterious hung man standing alone. At tony's funeral in an game is none other than harley now all grown but still clearly influenced by his bond with the mechanic. They're connected jason. What admit it you need me. It's true it's true but we're divided for the next few minutes because we are debating the winner of every episode of marvel. Whoever holds this hammer if maybe worthy shall possess the power elbow just cracked. When i did. I get more exercise. Alarming today's debate interesting. One here major sting in one corner with the potato gun harley in another loner with a lotta cans of beer trevor. More than drug tests later now travel a very very very quick rundown and refresher of the rules here. A coin flip will determine the order. We each get sixty seconds to make our opening statement for our candidate than we will get thirty seconds for rebuttal. And then you. The been heads will determine the winner by voting on our social feeds. That's it simple. are you ready. So i'll flip the coin. You wanna call it. Call it tells heads k. I believe that's seven for seven heads so something help here know. Is it really. It's like at least like five or six times that we've had had give us a fact check every time we divide the laws. I love your earlier like something's up here four of those times. You have flipped a coin. I know but. I deliberately called tails. Because i thought it was time for details. That's fine but observations. Okay so you decide the order of thank. You won the coin flip or seconda you know what since harley as such a young man let's go with age before much more age right. I count myself in. You'll time me ready. Yes three to one go harley keener all. Hail our mini mechanic. Tony journey in ironmongery is just about and battles about better understanding. What's in his own heart. And little harley is the key to unlocking so much that clarity for tony he is in many ways a robak to that kid sidekick colleague book character who brings smiles and insight in equal measure. But he's also pivotal for tony's future the kinds of bonds that will define his arc. Move forward his mentorship with peter is clarifying love for his daughter. Morgan harley. Help tony remember that. He's not just demanded. Can't he's a teacher. He's in inventor and he's a joker. Their banter is just crackling. Some of the best lines in the movie come between them unless they forget marley lead. Tony chat davis's mother which means he led him to the aim. Reveal in the folder harley crack the case also added on more seven with a snowball pivotal than the missions and the tennessee. General start away the strongest part of the film. And that's a large part. Because of their poor and spoiler we know what lasts. Because he's at tony's funeral. This is always so. I aren't having a snack before all right. Are you ready for your opening. Sixty seconds case for trevor. I cannot wait to hear this entire thing in varying accents. Oh curry or ready for you. Count me in forever. Slattery three to you'll never see me coming God one go. You know when people criticize ecus because his wings melted i. They always forget to mention that. He flew trevor slattery. Ladies and gentlemen might be in jail right now with the man flew how. How about this. My guy got to spend a year a year and a half several many great months in a miami mansion neck deep in cocaine and women and boobs having a grand old time watching soccer occasionally going to work filming his little terrorists commercials and having a great time putting his acting talents to work and he was very convincing and look at the evidence. He had the entire world believing that he was the mantra. And not only that. How did he win. he's alive. There's no question in anybody's mind that aldridge and would have put one in trevor's head alive in prison. Having lived the tie of time what the record state is time. My god all right rebuttal time thirty seconds. He'll be three two one go folks mir episodes ago. My co said that to win you had to have the armor. Harley is a workshop full of new toys like the potato gun mark two trevor. Got nothing but a prison sentence sentence less than forget that leads to the actual mandarin. They attend rings asian after him l. after l. for trevor. He's nothing ultimately more. They'd comic relief his proudest boast yacht. Tony common deers has most sizeable abuse. It is a heaping. Don't he added okay. Are you ready to try to argue against this. This little mobile right here. It's hard to point with the zoom background sir. Count me in three two one. Go get little manic. Pixie child out dream child out of here this little kid. Where his pal. Where are the people who should be watching over him. It's the stark who showers a bunch of gifts on him and then doesn't offer to maybe help this kid go to college of toys. He gets them a car. What's he gonna do with caray's eleven years old. Tony stark doesn't care about harley. Never cared about him that future. How scary that is time. And how dare you never talk about him. Not harley shows up at the funeral the where was tony for the rest of harleys life clearly maintaining of meaningful connection because harley was there to mourn tony and to say farewell to mark the end of this beautiful relationship that they had shared. Your argument is like trevor's fortune cookies. It is hollow full of lies and leaves a bad taste in the rather. I would rather live the two years of trevor's in that miami mansion then the six years of loneliness the poor harley head to head to take on filled with his life filled with nothing but toys that tony bottom. Have you ever seen toy story. The sounds great. Okay heads we've made. Our cases and now yulia is in. Your heads had at binge underscore mode on twitter and instagram and the bench abode group on facebook to cast your vote on whether harley or trevor is a worthy winner of iron man. Three well france. Everyone needs a hobby. Just as steve almond isaac lands akram are indispensable producers researcher. Keep telling us remember if you are looking to revisit experience for the first time past seasons bitty mode whether game of thrones harry potter star. Wars our weekly they are available utilise into info. Four free exclusively on spotify. We hope that as much as we do today that you're as excited as we are to hop back into the jet explore the rest of the story and that you'll join us next time for our dive into thor. The dark world. Steve kerr about five hours until them remember. You can take away our studio all our tricks toys. One thing again take away. We are mode people. Call me a terrorist. A consumer by slipped merica he for another lesson in eighteen sixty four and sand creek cut sand creek trevor sand creek and doria to sixty four sand creek. Kono radio cut. Jesus fucking christ trevor cholera. Can you fucking read is sky coked out. I think he needs more coke okay. Rates tried again returned sixty four and san creek colorado. The us military waited until the friendly chee and cut the friendly friendly chia knee braves cut.

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