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Episode 207:  Love as a Weakness

Defenders Of The Night

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Episode 207: Love as a Weakness

"School. The most trusted source for topped about and coverage of everyone's favourite mid-nineties. Animated. Program Gargoyles. It happen at this point. I'm your host Daniel Williams and I'm your host Eliza Circle Liz today we're covering gargoyles season two episode seven I of the beholder sounds very romantic really because it's a Halloween episode which aired in September it did it here September Thirteenth Nineteen Ninety Five. It's finally here the day I've been talking about for way too long for some reason I keep bringing it up but this was my tenth birthday just glad we're past it I think I can stop talking about. Today's episode is dropping September fourteenth? Twenty. Twenty twenty five years ago. This episode aired you were just a loud arms fucking old it was this episode was directed by Frank Parr. Hello Frank Logan Frank you are doing adequate work you doing. All Right? Yeah. Solid. He's a workhorse this frank par and it was written by our old Pal Steve Perry in season two he wrote the. Opener okay. Well. Before we get started here I just want to reach out to our our listeners and say to celebrate my tenth birthday Liz really wants you guys to leave our show some five star ratings and reviews as I said I don't care that it was my birthday but Liz is like super into the idea I mean I love birthdays she does live good birthday. I just celebrate my buddy. then. Not Now then pass. Daniels. Daniel Sucks. Am I. Think we can all agree. Current. Daniel. Not Doing Great. Ten year old Daniel got some sort of power rangers toy a very fuzzy memory of some kind of. Robotic thing. Do they have dragons? Was there a Dragon Let's get in the show yeah. GonNa Dragons. Let's go to castle. Earn was as we said, this episode is on October episode is a Halloween episode aired mid-september. I wonder if it was just a scheduling mixup or something wasn't ready and they had to move some stuff around very curious I'm curious to because I mean this was a straight up Halloween episode you think at least air. Sometime in October but regardless for the first time ever they tell us the date and it really isn't relevant except. So October first and we see Fox and deluxe having dinner and a very big dining room table like your stereo typical rich people was at one end a mile away there at the other end this reminds me of, do you remember the nine, hundred, eighty, nine, Batman? No never seen it. No, longer is Christ. We do this. Every week. Well I just showed it to my child and they have a scene where Bruce Wayne is having dinner with Vicki Vale in a comically long dining room table and they're like eating soup and she asked for salt and he's like what we'll ask the salt and then he's got to walk forty. That's why you have someone like Owen did pass it for you where was Alfred in that same? Weird. But nothing screams bromance like having to pretty much yell from one side of the table to the other I. mean that's my wife. Who Else God? Your poor. Wife? I still say sub girl after ten years of marriage. That's how you know you love each other. Yeah. Keeping the romance alive. Anyway. So they're just like having coffee at this point I guess dinner's already happened after coffee dinner or after dinner coffee I love an after dinner coffee. Dinner. And then suddenly he's just by her side like he must be fast on his feet. You didn't see but he had one of those hover boards. He. Had the really shoes on. Wheels and he wheels over and immediate like strikes opposed on knees like I've been practicing that girl. Go, marry me. Anyway big D proposes. He says that they're genetically compatible and there's both smart. Did he just realize she's not an actual Fox and he's like, Oh, well, in that case, we can get married as humans were both genetically compatible was fine. fucking you and I thought you were a five but now I'm fine marrying you can't marry a Fox, but you can fuck. Listeners just keep this in mind y'all can fuck Fox. And then she's like well, what about love and he's like as if either one of us a really able to feel those emotions. We're probably in love. Whatever it doesn't get better than this, right? And it's so weird because he's like I, love that's an emotion that most people have we do that we do love right and we make love. And then own comes in A. Box It's got the eye of Odin. That was a stone. We saw him acquire correct no, no no he just had that. That was the one that he donated to the museum still could still back. She's Fox's. Fox's proposal accepted which you know that was beautiful I. Mean This isn't a great proposal. It's not better than mine I don't know if you've ever heard the story of how I propose. No, I wanNA know I texted her. She said yes. All right. How long have you guys been together at that point three and a half years? Still married. was like, Hey, we should get married send. Were you nervous at all? She accepted she said proposal accepted sent that sounds accurate. I live a very romantic life and we're going to the mean streets of New York? City. Twenty nine days later. So Dream Boat comes out of a costume store. What kind of sexy lady costume do you think she bought at the time? I was like she bought a sexy police. Like stripper cop yeah. Because she never wears a uniform. So it'd be different than her every day. Right but the idea of her going and buying a fake uniform I thought was really funny. Specifically sexy. Yeah the. Short. Little Blue. She doesn't have the time to like make one with her old. You know what do they call them? Blues. Police. Say undefinitive the night. Police we're having fun today. She, she tosses her bag into the car and she hears a blood curdling scream coming from the general store because it's really eighteen ninety-five, right like Bodega right. So the shop owner sprints out screaming and hollering, and there's all these crashes happening and growls, and she, of course, being dream boat runs into, see what she can do to help the situation. Do you ever notice she's wearing cuffed jeans I specifically notice that this episode and I'd never noticed before which makes me wonder if they weren't cuffed before she got some new hand-me-downs. I cut my jeans Derek is like you know what? I got some new ones these are for you. This Derek still gargoyles creature. Maybe that's why he gave her the hand-me-downs just. Strictly into speed now you can have my jeans. Anyway. So she's running around the story trying to figure out what the fuck is happening, and we just see things being tossed and broken dougie noises. And we see a Werewolf fucking all. I mean they didn't even bury the lead. In this episode we're just a couple minutes in and they're like, Hey, bt dubs fucking Werewolf, and if you pay attention, it's wearing a necklace obvious who this is. So high. Fox which I think it's hilarious up Fox was turned into a wolf. She's aware Fox. It's weird that they keep her I scar thing and they prominently showcased the eye of Odin around her neck. They sell is trying to make surprise that yeah like we don't know what the hell happened immediately or we automatically know what powers the eye of Odin hands here I feel like that could have been done better but I was so into the monster of the week aspect of this episode like fine. Yeah Oh. Yeah. I just accepted. Where are we going with this? Where will if that's a new creature? Yeah. Cool. They tussle right right and then she flings Dream Boat headfirst into amount of flour sacks because this is eighteen, ninety five and we're in a general student. Like. A. Burlap sack of flour. Magies. Lug that on the subway and they have triple X. written the cross the bags because he's very sexy. Dream Boat picks up one of these big bags of flour and it's fucking wax where Fox across the face. She's like you know what my guns been tossed aside. I'm hanging upside down COUPLA and then backup arrives in where Fox's gone. It's weird that Dream Boat never ever calls for backup like assume that the general store clerk ran off and You See. Dream Boat reading unless you flush the badge and Arkansas assume she's policed right just a crazy person running into a dangerous situation which she is, but she's got a badge and again. Anyway we moved to Santa's tower hold on before I. moved to Sanitize Tower. There's one thing I. Don't know if you picked up on but the backup the shows up is the not goliath glass. This man is well aware that there is a werewolf creature running around New York. City. He says something like this is the third citing this month. We're all just okay with a Werewolf I'm sorry where Fox being in New York City he's kind of like fucking Halloween man Halloween in the city shrew. saw or it's okay it's fine. You know like, wow, that's so crazy. Three times a week. All right. So you were saying dentist toast our. Yeah. So then from there removed his aunt tower. So to look is watching the news and show footage of the where Fox and anchor person and is also pretty okay with the fact that there's a where Fox running around the city reporting live from the reason attack from a mythical beast into. Guess it's Thursday. Like what? Also from the twenty S. Does he know immediately that it's Fox that is where this episode falls short. Is He has a list of plans and we're never sure what like what the fuck is doing. Now I mean it is typical Santos to have nebulous quote unquote plans right in this episode it's pointed you know there's a plan a and plan being a plan see what are your goals here we'll because I kind of like did he give her the necklace specifically to see what the magic powers are and he didn't know what was going to happen because he says later on I don't remember what to tease like it's supposed to bring insight and power or something to the wearer. And why wouldn't you put it on himself or I don't know because they're watching the news and Fox arrives? This is weird and they're like, Hey, later lady we're you been she's like. I was just out walking barefoot in the city because she's barefoot and wearing a trenchcoat the way that naked ladies wear trench coats to go surprise their husbands at the office I mean, do you think that she had plans and then she walked in and said Fuck Owens here so then she was like it's just Go for a walk. Walk GonNA walk in this other room is what my plan was. Multi fuck you Owen see later. because. That's what it looks like because he ashes clearly naked on his trenchcoat and clearly this is deluxe office. Why did she walk through his office if not to fuck in the office and then she saw She looked very uncomfortable but that could be because of Owen. Yeah he not everyone uncomfortable. Bet looks like he's always sweating. Be in the dead of winter outside totally naked that dude looks wet. So I think that this is definitely his office. Walked into. Do the sexy trenchcoat thing saw on was like fuck I need to make an excuse to leave. was out for a walk and walk into your office, and that's a totally normal thing that fiance would do. Thank you very much. Goodbye and I mean this being a children's show. I'm thinking it's supposed to be oh, she needs to go through there in order to get to her room and it's like five hundred, Thousand Square foot building that they're in. This is the only way I can get to where I need to be I'm so embarrassed. Yeah and I'm shoeless point being I'm GONNA say one last time Fox was looking to. Maybe being aware Fox makes her horny get all that energy. GotTa you gotTa, those fucking dog hormones. Fox's. Horny. Robin. Hood that is a good point. He's a very sexy bogged that Fox and Tony. Okay we got to move. Okay so Obviously looks jealous. there. Several Times episode that I think Looks Jealous. Well. Good. fucking. So before we go to the Clock Tower Deluxe Asks Fox, as she's on her way out, you know where you wearing the I she's like, yes, of course I, I never take it off. She leaves in deluxe is to Owen time for plan A. This is the first time you mentioned specifically, he's got a plan. You. Know play one is that let stuff? She's this little bud stuff where Werewolf. ANAL PLAN A for anal sex. Thank you. Something something clock towers the Gargoyles wake up. Yeah. It's not as prolonged. It's a very short wake up seeing, but they do show them waking up. Did you notice it was dark when they were waking up how interesting? Yeah. They didn't show the sunsetting and I know this is an October so that makes me wonder is it time specific? You know not based on the sun in the rotation of the planet will maybe it has its rotation of the planet but the tilt of the planet has no bearing science. Anyway the pros are all very. Very excited about Halloween which I thought was adorable and it makes sense to me that they would enjoy a holiday like Halloween because they don't have to hide. They can just pretend they're in costumes on the other hand have ever gotten to do a Halloween yeah I don't know the time line here I'm assuming it's still the same year and just like maybe seeing TV or maybe I'm sure they'd look Mardi Gras to carnival stuff like anything that has masks thongs they would love to just walk around in a mask and Thong yeah kind of. You imagine gargled trying to wear Thong, the tails and the way man working really funny image. Wise the Taylor does, is it like a thing? You put over the tail I can go all drops designs will work on this. Sells. On Merge Story. Okay. Dream. Boat shows up and she is telling them about where Fox which is weird and she doesn't know it's Fox. She just thinks there was like there's a creature at how many days has it been? Well, the reporter from the previous scene said it was first sighted on October fourth this tober thirtieth I I don't think she was the first sighting like she saw. No. dudes watch a lot of TV. Yeah. So they shouldn't be surprised to know this should have been something that came up also the plainclothes officer knew about it. That's where that dream boat was totally unaware until earlier this evening you mean police departments don't have proper communication. Oh. Yeah but yeah Goliath is being Aldo oh my my sweet dream boat. I'm so sorry it wasn't there to protect you and she's like, oh, my sweet Goliath it's okay and they totally have a moment I sent you a green shy. How the fuck to episodes ago or are they trying to tell us that these two aren't in love right motherfuckers hand on chest and staring longingly at each other and she's like it's so nice to know that someone cares about me like this. You know they're gonNa get it on later which weird that he wasn't there. He's almost always there. No matter where there is yeah, I, guess you really wanted to keep that costume and surprise though so they fucking love each other in everyone that thinks that they don't is an idiot. We are team romance on this podcast yeah. So. Let me go back to cast-iron and Fox's in her room her room by herself. That's. Do you think looking for. So I. Think you're a technical. Maybe. They've each got thrown floor of the castle. I just really like my space not until marriage do and even then we'll see we'll have fully got jack and Jill bathroom thing. I don't understand people that are like I. Need my own space I'm like, no if I don't have my wife within sight at least twenty hours a day I start to freak out really yeah like if he a spouse that goes out of town I'm like I don't I don't I can't sleep the first night I can't sleep in the night starfish on the bed and I love it I don't do that like I won't even unmake the whole bed. She's in there all alone. Also I don't know if you noticed. But in this room, there is literally only this bedroom. There is no other furniture in this room. We maybe she snuck off into an empty bedroom to guestroom that doesn't have anything her where Fox puberty to hit. So yes, she staring at the Moon I'm curious does the moon actually affect her or the just the necklace because traditional werewolves it's more of a moon thing I bet it has to do with both. Do you think the moon makes her power stronger? That's a good question and I assume the moon affects everyone that wears the necklace you would think otherwise. Why would the moon matter? These are good questions I. Didn't even take that in consideration. So deluxe comes into the room and notices that his wife to be is standing in nothing but a trenchcoat and he's like Oh this is what was going on earlier and I just want to paint a picture for you as to how the scene might have gone up. This wasn't an a children's show. So Fox, she's at the window nude in her trenchcoat and deluxe walks in he's confused why is she wearing a? She has so many fancy dress a designer, but he's like I am very rows I don't know why trenchcoats London fogs. Oh boy. He moves in for smooch isn't boob honking and his sex often includes Fox is like no no now's not a good time. He goes in for the classic sixty but squeeze and she snatches his fucking hand up with a where Fox pawn ripped his arm off blood gushing and spraying out and he's like. TRENCHCOAT Zoa attractive to me I am I still? was there blood leftover for that I'm spraying everywhere? and. Then suddenly he was springs everywhere. Wow you had to go and make weirdly. It is a kid show. So instead deluxe comes into the room and he's like, Hey, can I have the eye of Odin? I want to get it engraved. Make this even more special for us and she's like now I'm good. Yes. So she knows what this is doing to her. She's fully aware I mean, don't think he put a necklace on you start turning into where Wolf I think you'd figure out the connection and she's okay with it. Yeah. Real Weird and then you see her hand is already turning. She's straight up turns in and he goes like Start. Really startled noise, which made me wonder like, okay. Did he not know I sure that's what the was doing and now it's like the he suspect and wasn't certain and that just proved it or was he just startled to see it happening in front of him like I wasn't quite sure. Gross well to be fair. The way she was transforming was rather scary for kids show I. appreciated that you've got to figure some of the best we'll transformations are often gruesome and brutal to watch as your body twists and contorts bones growing and snapping, and those of cool ones now like an animal mother fucking Shit like that like, Oh, no, no wolf like, no, it should look painful for sure he ejaculates a scream to a commercial break. So I think that what we should do the same. I'm and I'm Daniel. We've got a great new show in the claim to cast network. It's called the Black Lodge complaint department, and every week we're going to discuss everyone's favourite show when beaks. that sounds terrible Adam and I've never seen twin peaks. That's the point listen along as we go over the entire series from the perspective of longtime fan and a person that kind of David, Lynch for no good reason, it's going to be great. It is so subscribe now to the Black Lodge complaint department on Apple podcast Google play stitcher and check US OUT AT CALAMITY CAST DOT com. So. I guess still looks did know what was going to happen or knew something weird was going to happen because he comes in strapped he's got a little trank pistol and it did nothing he shoots Fox and she's like. She's like yanked it out and throws it would have been great if she threw it at his dumbhead. Deluxe, like takes the bedsheets. Yeah. He's like trying to wrap her up in. A. Sack. Situation. Like a nine foot tall where So, he's trying to like capture her. He has his arms wrapped around her very long waist. A Win. Runs in in like jumps on top. Benny Hill bullshit sudden. Gets away we'll just like Owen shooter with what I found a trank DART. But no was actually tracking device and she runs off and she forces her way into an elevator shaft and Shimmy sanded upside down. Yes. She becomes very primate lake in how she's climbing and stuff and she runs into some helmet goons. Do you remember the helmet guns do the Robocop just live in the building I would imagine Soviet like barracks. Yeah. But she pays them no mind. She doesn't even really fight them or anything she just runs down the hall in jumps out a window and escapes Yep, she's fine. Everything's okay. Just let the women have a night on the town. So then we end up back into Lexus office and that's already learned that it's not tracking device and it also monitors Fox's vitals. Some High Tech Shit I mean it is still lacks yeah. But yeah, like I was just like, okay. Well, see her metabolism is functioning in such a way that she's going to eat fuck total food and She has a very limited amount of time to live her heart's pumping. So hard like she's got a, she's got some kind of time limit here, and of course, deluxe is very concerned. I have a clip I want you to hear how concerned is oh no. If this keeps up system will burn out before morning. She'll die incredible. If I'd known the eye of Odin had that kind of power I'd never have just given it away. Well. Spilt milk. Let's move on to plan. B. Talk. was planning a what the fuck was planning a LIZ double check. Make sure she actually is aware wolf and then capture her but he failed miserably like he should have come in with the way more than just that stupid little tank gun. Yeah. I. Do I didn't he had like chains or like shocked nets. Yeah he's. Not His finest moment like if he didn't have the rank and I really would've thought he was utterly surprised by everything with how stupid he was being I. Don't know we'll from here lives we go to the library where we see a very sexy goliath setting yet again on a ladder. Bugs. The Chair, he always purchase on the ladder. He doesn't want to hurt his tail maybe he sits so long that tail would fall asleep. Chair. So on a ladder, he can hanging over the side dream boat just got a super. Tip about where to find the where Fox from somebody in the previous scene who was told to make the call one amendment. So. Anonymous. Don't broadcast it like that. Don't have the previous. Owen, make the call and then have this happen like that's no fun. Just like earlier when we saw the where will for the first time and it was like, oh, it's fucking Fox guys. There's no surprise in this episode which that could have been fun surprised to learn I still enjoy this, but the surprise factor would have made it better. Yeah. I loved that go. Hey, through reading a book on where warms about. We Wolves. Can't do the Kiwi accent I'm sorry I can barely you an American accent. We will. We will. Give Up. Literally. All happens in the Labor. She's like hey. Permission, and then we cut away and he. was. Like. Oh. Okay. We gotta go. No. And then we go to the skies and the rooftops of New York City where deluxe is tracking our wear Fox and his iron cargo sued and I don't know if you noticed Liz but he a giant gun isn't suit mostly made of guns. Just like press the button and it appeared there's just guns he's covered in guns in this fucking tink brought a gun. Maybe it was a teaser. Another gun gets a trank is what it turns out to be but. You don't already have that in your iron man suit man. So as it turns out where Fox's just really you really fucking hungry. Yeah. Like she just isn't eating enough calories. She's got to eat pretty much all the time. Yes. So her fucked up metabolism has just got her running all over the city which is making her hungrier. You just feel for like I. Mean I don't know about you but spending eight hours a day ten hours a day sitting in the studio and you're just he's hungry all the. All that activity. So I gotta go eat a whole side of. Yeah she's just fucking eaten cows. She's tearing up these carcasses because she's a meat packaging Paul aunt warehouse of meat. Meat Processing Facility. There we go. In the middle of New York City is that real? Who knows that you'd think that'd be more like in the suburbs or like upstate New York or something. Like the top of this five story, ten story building, just cow carcasses. Listeners this can't all be cut out because Liz. V Most amazing spit take I watched the liquid arc across the room and I'm not even mad. So, impressed. Liz. going. You. Know. Clean up in the meantime Captain D. is hunting his hungry hungry girlfriends. Facility when she somehow gets the drop on him because as you know where Fox's are notoriously stealthy stealthy est of mythical creatures sedans, there's more tussle in you know there's a lot of wrassling there is. No exciting fights but just a lot of wrassling. Yeah. For Real in where Fox goes in for the killing by gets around deluxe his neck like into a shoulder this neck meet I don't know but he's wearing his robo suit. Yeah. That saves them name blaster in the chest with that drink and so she destroys part of the suit and so he can't see through it anymore. So then he has to remove the helmet, which is important because she sees his eyes and his Jamie hair and all that and her eyes become human briefly asks what does it I recognize that she comes out of the shoe was released from her wear curse and that's how she doesn't Kill Them. That's a shame should've killed them. I don't WanNA marry. You look what you've done to me although she's into it she. She likes power in animals specifically Fox's that's why she's aware Fox did think if Dingo had worn this, it'd be aware Dingo. Be Wading out. Australian. Accent is even better than my New Zealand accent nailing it. Leslie move. Outside. So where Fox bursts through a window and liens Liz's where my favorite move in the show comes in. It's the stealth cargo. He'll drop kick where they fucking fly in from out of nowhere. You know I'm proud of Goliath that once he didn't yell his arrival. Well, he didn't WANNA scream directly andrea boats ear because he's baby carrying her. That's sure and he does the dropkick with her in his arms. I was like that's good multitasking as boldly. Yeah. I would have held her out and let her the kick. Held her out like a spear? So glanton where Fox are still wrestling. And Goliath tosses her against giant garage door in cut anoxia unconscious and that's when deluxe shows up. And he says some great lines here. Let's take a listen. Great. Spooky. Sanito what are you doing here? This is a private matter detector at appreciate no interference. Is this another of your mutated victims? Let's just say I feel a certain responsibility for it Liz that's not how laws work. Now that'd be like Oh don't mind me. I'm just abusing my wife this is just a private matter. You may leave my wear Fox fiance is committing crimes throughout the city and frankly I don't see how that's any of your business detective. This he reaches down he like you know what? I mean. It's going to take my jewelry and leave. Yes and this is where he gets electrocuted got. Magic. Zapped. Good fuck him. So the where Fox still has her necklace. So goliath tries to shield dream boat from the magic electricity. And he's got his back turned and this is when where Fox goes in for middle US just want some affection I. Don't know if you realize this but she bear hugs him from behind and what we see is just got to be a solid three seconds of just an embrace like there's not a struggle she like, Hey, sh and he's like, okay. It was just a hug and was weird. And so she takes off he's like thanks buddy PA in Zohreh Deluxe just like peace and I saw like you're under arrest and he's like really. This is the point I was at my TV. Liz. Because dream though in Goliath still do not recognize who the where Fox is got the scar on her I. The eye of Odin is a thing that they've seen before on TV and there was a whole episode about. How do that recognize what the fuck is going on you know dream boats like you know is this another one of your experience or something to deluxe i? Even was like if deluxe is your enemy then that means you're our friend because he's our enemy to maybe that's why she hugs him anyway lack of awareness does not make any sense and it's not a big deal whether or not they know who the where Fox is but it's so obvious how could they not? So we go to castle woven. Oh, in points out that plan, D. did not work in like, yeah but I've got twenty four more to go there. So we're fine everything's fine. Do you like that for once none of his plans are actually working and I was worried it was going to be one of those bullshit things that later on who's like us that was my plan all along what are the plans for you know? Saying that but it's because it's so bizarre like, yes, I have these plans they involve my fiance and a necklace and that's all you need to know let down the makes no sense. Okay. So he's talking about like, okay plan in place now and pretty much. It's going to be utilizing gargoyles because they'll just do the work for me. That is such upper management type fucking thing. Yes. One hundred percent. So he just assumes the Gargoyles Berry because I think she some poor innocent creature. They'll go after her and get the necklace, and then he'll just negative from. Yeah. So of course, Goliath shows up and he overheard all this and well, let's take a listen to what he had to think about that. Okay. Do all my work for me I fail to see how it will be any easier to get the I from the Gog oils than from Fox you'll manipulations of failed on a toast. I don't suppose you have a Plan D. Liz I think we all know deluxe is a big plan. Oh I get it. On that note, shall take it to a commercial. In Modern Day Bristol someone is copying one of the most infamous serial killers of all time. Jack. The ripper only this time the story is different a woman survives and decides to get her revenge by taking the law into her own hands. But in so doing she awakens darkness deep insider. If you like Suspense Thrillers Man Serial Killers Tune into the ripper and audio drama available now wherever you get your podcasts. were frightened back aches Goliath is onto your shenanigans deluxe. He knows and he's not gonNA play your fucking game this time. I mean. He usually does and then deluxe asks nicely. Gliders like I'll. And drink both like Goliath. No no no. No dogs if you. Owe you little rascals. Got Me. But my my girl says I can't play. So. Yeah. I mean it's pretty much a little back and forth of him almost. No I. Really Need Your help guys. You remember all the fun. We had when I manipulated you and doing things. I wanted to go back to that. It's been a minute since we've done that we used to do before you start hanging out with her you've changed since you've got a girlfriend man so. Good and scoops up dream boat and they take off. My favorite thing was when they're taking off glance looks back at deluxe and he's like it's not a good night for you. In Petty Bitch. The scene didn't go where I thought it. Would you know what you think it was going to go oh, the deluxe would talk. Get suckered in mean it does go that way. But in this scene I was like Oh shit. Yeah. A little subversion of expectations I, look version. And then Oh and reminds deluxe that where Fox is gonNA. Die Before his iron gargoyles suit is actually ready to go deluxe is like Oh, shit I might have to take care of this myself. When's the suit going to be ready? You know like? Bad News bears let's Halloween Party. This was wild I mean this like so much fun and I hate Halloween parties and I was like everyone looks like they had a really good time. Time seems a little nervous Jhansi mill nervous because every time they've been out in the streets, of New, York Shit has gone wrong. We'll usually they're like fighting a robot or something weird. There's an explosion. So they were like Oh God oh God oh God we're out in public what's going to explode? He s going to happen we're GONNA be turned into humans again like Oh shit and then a little bit later on they're like fuck I knew it cracked me up the most about this scene is it sounded like all these New York City part ears were like. California. Surfer dudes like, Hey, raw. Cost you got there a costume within a costume? Oh. My God and others like, Yeah Brew. That's really awesome. What are the voices that are happening? Check out there where bear Kostroman. So. What was your favorite of the pros costumes? So we had Lexington who was an old Timey Lynn Lindbergh style pilot, and then we had Broadway as his standard Pi Costume because I guess he just has an endless supply of trenchcoats because yeah he just stole himself in new trenchcoat. He's like well done and done, and then we Brooklyn who's a pirate. I would say because it's the least obvious Brooklyn Brooklyn had to do some research you know. So I, think that I would pick that one although it was very cool costume like it's a very Brooklyn Kinda field costume. So they're having fun they're having a lot. And after the surfer bows. Vacation. In October in New York, city got into their costumes cheaper. Internet. Stay, bear coal and then In walks dream boat and her fucking beauty and the beast belqass GM. The yellow down. Rocking. Profession uses Christ Liz did I send you the second screen shot of them I did didn't I have them just staring longingly other ever those mother fuckers who episode of God they look like an old married couple who've been in love for her years. The most longing like I. Love you so much luck. It's a horrible and then the fact that will light this the beast is just perfect can even change his clothes. And Adore. Immediately start denying. Ballroom dance in the middle of the street Jesus Christ I cried from happiness I. loved it so much. Aw just the way that Goliath he's like he's got hungry is he does he and he's he's setting his own plan a into action once again, the joke here being that plan a is his. But stuff. Okay. So the ballroom dancing, all anal sex jokes aside is amazing. It was very nice. It should is romantic as hell and then they take a lovely stroll down a darkly lit hold on while they're still dancing the camera pans and shows the three broke royals and they all just like Jerry Cy. I must've been busy typing but sex jokes and beauty and the beast when bell is wearing that gown and their ballroom dancing. That's the moment that they really fall in. Love like that. and. Then these have. Lumiere and Mrs Potts and all them dreamily watching them be like it's working when you can call back to your own property scrape, you don't even have to pay for. It was. Oh. Wow Okay let's go to a dark alley. Yeah. Okay. So as I mentioned, not the most romantic place for a stroll when it's good for some backyard fucking backyard fucking in an alley though isn't backyard. Anyway continue well, Liz their costed by a wear wool. Goliath was having no shit. Oh, he's on high alert tackles the fuck out of this kid. fucking throw it out of this fucking Werewolf and noticing the hand in the. The mask falls off and the guy is like, Hey, dude, what the fuck well. Sorry I rip your arm of and beat you with a little bit but you probably just so back mandate on then it'll be alright. A dozen on it anyway. I mean, he didn't know what he was getting themselves into. Yeah, and then glide is like. Hey. Guess things aren't always what they seem back. We have to help him know you know this was rolling around in his brain all night. 'cause you don't just come to that conclusion. Yeah. dammit. I hate not helping grave all we gotta do it. Looks like are you kidding me? We already talked about this. He is allying liar who lies sure. Let's can help him I. Thought I was going to have six in the smelly alley. And Deluxe appears out of the shadows and he's like, Hey, great you're going to help. He. Just fucking like giraffe necks over a dumpsters. Talking about me I was here to watch a Gago he'll have sex with the woman. God. What if that's why he was there he's like. They're gonna all. Tied I don't always talking to this. Okay. So they don't get to have sex and the stinky alley and they're going to help deluxe save the wear Fox instead, and they're like wait how the fuck did you find us and he reaches behind goal is Eardley. How does he not know that these things are stuck to ed? Are they like ticks where sometimes it's don't realize you have a tick on you But it's like the size of a dime. It's blinking. Think that dream but would of noticed. What is that thing on your neck again to say, literally Beep Beep for them to fucking notice it. Saddam y'all know me. I'm bugged you. That's how I found. You do. It's kind of my thing. He pretty much says that he's like Oh you know I couldn't not do. You Know Me. Stinger. So the pros are just eating so much fair food fucking funnel cake. Corn dogs hot data pretzels. There's a scream. A vase breaks in the distance. Crash Liz I have every single one of these on defects in the sound Effects Library that we use for calamity cast. We are all using the same sound effects library that's like thirty five or forty years old. That's hilarious. Yeah. So the pros go to investigate all of these random sound effects that someone is playing. So they want to go into this building their stopped by Goliath. He says, we'll handle this instead of having his breuls who are strong gargoyles. He's like, Hey, little girlfriend wearing a fucking ballgown coming here with your gun what the fuck his enemy that he can't trust. Yeah. So that's not a good plan what you're no. Okay. You think at the very least that he'd be like sure backup is probably a good idea. You guys can come they sit out. So. You're saying instead of going and fighting some unknown enemy, we should eat another fun. Okay. Okay. If you go down. To tell you I haven't had a funnel cake in a long time. So inside this, whatever building the three try to pin down the where Fox. But I guess she's just outsmarts them and overpowers an ancient dragon man, the city's best detective and a billionaire genius in a robot suit she doing part of his row suit I think this is a different suit dream boat pulls out her gun and with his semi row hand grabs it and crushes xs he's like, no, we need to capture but only to kill her like the vibe I got there. Yeah. He's got rocket feet. Strong hands. Yeah what I'm going through this strong And like how he's like, it's Halloween can't be walking around the Weird Robo suit. trenchcoat. Yeah, do you think dream could have had more guns under this giant ballgown like if she had a shotgun strapped to her leg and like a bow with a quiver of arrows under the hoops that have been fun like deluxe crushes, her gun and she's like, all right she pulls out to more. So from here has all this fighting is going on inside. We moved back outside where Liz. If you noticed but the where Fox bursts the door and climbs to the roof and as we pan across the scene of people, Broadway's literally eating his hat looked. that. Seriously, yeah. He he like pulled it off his head and he's like you know crumpled in his hands. He's like worried you know like, Oh what's going on and then he starts to eat that was actually a bite going yeah. Like he rips into it with his mouth Indus chew wings nervous eating. His. I mean that's the best explanation. So. GonNa. Need to go back to that scene because I missed that somehow I think I was fantasizing about release too much and I missed that so Broadway's busy eating a hat we pan up to the rooftops where we see Goliath up there and he is searching for the stealthy as an engine known to man which as has been previously established as a giant ruling where beast right? When deluxe enduring boat just fly up he grabs her and he's like Don't know if she rips her arm around him and says, I, don't trust you and he's like whatever I don't have time for this and then shoots away. Find Lady take the fucking stairs like. Trust me but I begged jelly how he you know he's a man on a mission right? He's a he's a on the prize. Yeah. Okay. They land and deluxe catches where Fox's I and she starts having weird hallucinations is this more of like that's my man I'm in and out at my where Wolf Brand I. think what was happening here is she fully recognizes him as who he is and like Oh, this is my man NC's dream boat and that's when in Fox's mind she sees herself as remote. That herself so like it was a weird Man v Beast. The beast brain trying to attack the human brain that or maybe she was jealous of what she sees. Now that was the weird thing that. Kind of thing. Is Goliath intercepts this past mid air collision? He Grabs Fox and slams her into this giant electrified like neon sign. Yeah. Are NEON signs that dangerous? I've no idea. If you touch the back of a neon sign, will you be electrocuted because that's what happens like Jurassic Park Electric Fence. Yeah. You are correct. That's exactly what it is. neon signs seemed dangerous and we should all stay away like that kind of unregulated electrical output should be illegal. So that's one deluxe is able to grab the I have Odin. And they all three starts screaming in pain and he manages to whip the I from her neck. and. Fox. Fault ground chains to transplant. Yeah. So I have to say I don't like the yell noise at the US for where Fox. I it's unlike a T. Rex will this last one here I thought was pretty fucking heavy metal. Yeah. It would definitely was. Yeah. So. Liz What I. Thought Would Have Been Hilarious. She turns back into human. She's naked and I thought had been so funny if it went unexplained but she was wearing a trenchcoat. Says she's just turned up naked. So. Which makes me wonder how does she get the trench coat every other time that she's turned maybe she hit it stashed away. Yeah. That makes sense. That's kind of what they do in true blood like this genes are seventy dollars right now for sure I'm a Werewolf I'm not a millionaire. Yeah although she is probably anyway. So this was my favorite part of the whole show. Dream Boat suddenly tears away her skirt she. Super Short sexy skirt, and these Thoai high tides and a Garter Bell and. This is that a Garner builder? Is it like Thi- holster was both so probably just a thigh holster that she was using as garter belt. Yeah. Super. fucking sexy. Why? What's This is the costumes she was trying to hide from going. The after party costume. So she gives her big huge skirt to Fox and covers her I'm pretty sure when she bends down to cover Fox, you can see Dream Bill Belichick Garbo's got saucy in this episode they dead I. Love De, some Dream Boat Button. So she's protecting her sounds. Nice. Yeah and then Owen comes with the helicopter. Yeah. This is a quick dissension. The episode we all take to the end here it's. Not My favorite ending but really fast. Yes it does so like you said. piss boy in descends in the helicopter to retrieve deluxe and Fox I like how Goliath just said straight up the I vote and I don't fucking trust you with that as my now. Yeah. Deluxe goes. Oh, like for a trade be like I get my woman back and you get the the necklace and he's like, no, that's not what I meant. I wasn't GonNa ever Steal Fox from you, but you just don't get to keep this necklace right and in this bit of conversation is a clip I wanNA play because it speaks to exactly the kind of person in just a few lines that deluxe is yeah. She's alive. The I. Give it to me. A trade let's just say. I don't trust you with it. So, now you know my weakness only you would regard love. As a weakness episode ends with deluxe cradling, Fox, and carrying her onto the helicopter. We end on a shot of Owen wearing a look that I think suggests that used to be me. Used to carry me away. So Jealous, he is jealous they shared something and he doesn't know why that can no longer be and that's gotTa hurt he so loyal as he stays as employees slash sub. Thanks for listening help others find our show by rating and reviewing on itunes checkout calamity cast dot com for even more content and follow us on facebook twitter and Instagram to get in touch and let us know how we're doing. If you like what you hear and you want to help keep the lights on considered becoming a regular calamity casts contributor on Patriot bore. If you'd like to make a one time donation, you can do so at pay pal dot me slash clarity cast we appreciate your support and your donations truly make a difference. Ladies and Gentlemen Nine Binary Pal goals we are back friends Liz also a friend all my friends hey, everyone we have just finished episodes season two gargoyles eye of the beholder Liz I was wondering as I do every week. Did you like this episode I did overall I I did enjoy this one. The deluxe plan thing is the only thing that really took away from it for me said, real understand what was his plan justice capture? was like, was he wanting to see how you react as aware awards like I don't fuck. You know what was happening there because you feel like if he wanted to see what the eye of Odin could do, he would just like put a AD in back page for medical experiments get a college student in their lock them in containment cell for twenty four hours put it on and see what happens what I just described. Sounds much more like deluxe. Her a company that deluxe own right I mean. That's what he did for the DNA gargoyles creatures things. Yeah. So this what does the I vote in? Do I have several plans to find out? Didn't play very well from. He didn't make a comment like I. Know I mentioned this before, but they said it brings out the power insight of. Whoever wears it or whatever, and maybe Dream Boat and well What do you think that says about her then if this is what does stir and which rule? You're waiting into dangerous territory. Little caddy look at. But overall I agree with you one hundred percent. This was really fun. One was some saucy bits. Yes. There was some fun mythical creature bits. Yes. Every time they expand the Gargle universe I like it granted we're playing with the same characters but in a new way it was mostly fun and you know. I think part of the issue with Gargoyles is they play fast and loose with the wise of the situation. So it's like why why is deluxe doing this thing and they're like he cares As an me know, I'm an adult watch shows like I'm really interested in those. What this fucking guys doing like is he one of those villains who thinks he's the hero like DC have some master plan for the betterment of? Humanity and blah, Blah Blah because that would be really interesting to know. But often plan is just like mustache twirly devious guy I do you feel like this almost gave a different dimension of him though more so than a lot of the other episodes have because there's something that he actually loves I think that he does love Fox and he's broken. So he doesn't know what loving person means Gerardo would love to know his background is it's Like there's so much room. Is He from a billionaire family easiest made man like how did he get to be where he is now and why is he so broken I need backstory Fantastic. Now, maybe that comic book series goes into something maybe something we're going to have to do some research into or you know what I bet all this interesting back stories in the second genesis game gotta play. GotTa find a Sega on Ebay. Which I'm not opposed to civically for more content. So you brought up where Fox's sound design. I liked. I thought that it sounded like they ran the actors Mike through like an old distortion pedal or metal, and I couldn't tell if it was the I can't remember the actors name actually her actually her that was just so manipulated or they had someone else come in and do it and then manipulating that voice. DELETION ASPECT OF IT? I think it was actually the sound love. So much I was like insanely distorted, but the more I heard it in like, oh, that's really intentional but it did sound like they just plugged Mike into a guitar pedal. That's estimating and once I realized I kind of what they were doing notes pitched. Might. Be like a man doing it and they pitched that where it might be hurt they just pitched her down Solo. which I think would be cool. They dislike the actor doing. I liked it. You didn't and I think that's the first time. We've ever disagree on something on the show. Liz. I'm sure this isn't the case but how would you feel if this episode was the beginning of some kind of redemption? Ark. For Deluxe down for it this is deluxe actually showing love and affection for another person, and if this was like his turning point I think that would be I mean it would be week Oh woman changed my mind and heart. But the fact that it happens to this character at all, you're gonNA tiny bit here shows maybe there's room to grow and change and change and mold this. Character I. think that would be nice and then you have room to then with him out of the ways like villain to add and others noon. Yeah. That'd to be cool. Yeah. I agree I also like if love was the magic thing that started changing him that went in bug me just because I've read Enough Lake L. Fly asshole Romance novels where their total dicks and then the lovable woman made him see the light of day or the level of man the love of a special person really do a whole lot. 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Episode 112: How About Some Privacy

Defenders Of The Night

1:16:27 hr | 4 months ago

Episode 112: How About Some Privacy

"As the host of defenders of the night and official representatives of the clammy cast network Daniel and I would like to make it clear that we and all that we represent as podcasters in humans are firmly on Waverley anti-racist. As a couple of white people drenched in societal privilege. We will never understand what it means to be black in America instead we will listen. We will learn, and we will grow to become better allies in the fight. Fight for equality. There is a lot of darkness in the world, and we hope are goofy show about nineties. Cartoon can bring you a little laughter during the fight, but we are by no means a distraction. Never forget that black men and boys are again being lynched. People of color are still being gunned down by police and Briana Taylor's killers are still free to put it bluntly. All black lives matter fuck racism and fuck the police. moved. Third. We are defenders of the night. The most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favourite mid-nineties. Animated Program Gargoyles. Host Liz Urkel. Your host Daniel Williams and Liz Quebec once again. You know I drop in a sound effects. All right you have to. Then you have to yeah so today. We are covering Google season. One episode twelve her brothers episode, Brother's keeper aired January twenty seventh, nineteen, ninety, five. It was directed by the same duo was last week talking me to co Amora and Katsuo Terada, and it was written by what I believe is my least favorite writer of anything ever Michael reaves sucking Michael Rees literally when I saw his name pop up on the screen. No, this guy! No, no, no. Well Liz! Before. We get into today's episode. I just WanNa if just if you could hang back for a second I just WANNA speak to the list Mitch I've asked him you do your thing, friends. Romans PAL goals. I'm sorry to say we cannot start this episode before you head into your favorite podcast Scher and leave defenders of the night rating, a review, acute winky face Emoji we'll wait. You done. All right good, let's get to the show is yes. Was We start this episode in The New York City skyline rented helicopter high above mean streets. And immediately I was hating this episode. Dream Boat is hot on the trail of deluxe for reasons. Okay. I don't need to explain myself to you man. She's just like well. You know every time I'm telling him in my car. He sees me immediately and goes away. I'm like well first off your detailing then secondly why every day I? They constantly like her brothers like. Maybe you should just leave it alone and she's like. No, this is my obsession. Now you mention her brother brother Dream Boat. He is flying this helicopter. He's the pilot and the Dream Boat Siblings as you said they're tailing deluxe, and the brothers like give a weird obsession and she's like yeah, I do. Meanwhile the brother Derek is making some very interesting points about deluxe, having paid his debt to society, and perhaps you should just leave him alone. He seems harmless. What did he do and it's a good point. He got tried and convicted for crimes went to prison now he's on the straight narrow as far as the law knows right, and since she is the law, she's got to stick to that letter right now. She's just going to waste the cities of resources you. Only following him around during her normal work time in her car, but now utilizing a fucking helicopter that belongs to the NYPD it's nonsense and she's just like well I know he's dirty I know there's more can get him on, and he's like what her brothers like. How long are you going to do this until I? Get something on Mit us. What man? The none of this is explained? No ever. I mean of course she's right befalling the letter of the law. She is like you said wasting resources and being irresponsible and also she says that she spotted every time. She tells them in her car in new. York. City there's at least two dozen cars, so it should be easy enough to hide. There's one fucking helicopter does not seem to go away. No matter which direction deluxe is limousine turns in fucking super duper suspicious, so you're going to follow by obvious helicopter. Like how is that helping you with stamped nypd on the side, Liz. It's brand branded. All they have to do is look out the window and see the single helicopter which they do, the doesn't seem to go. In PD that's not suspicious at I'll just ignore it. It's fine what? Dummies who wrote this oh my. Fuck back, Michael? Dream is a smart lady. Yeah, this is really dumb yeah. Okay well. Let's move on to the clock tower where we eventually get to my second issue with this episode, so instead of seeing what she's so obsessed about the brogue oils are playing video games, and it's like helicopter simulator. What's a fun little bit of connective tissue? I guess. Copter. Seen One. They're playing helicopter video games seen to well. Lexington is playing the helicopter game. He's not sharing. Lexington is playing. Guessing is an Atari where they found in Atari in one, thousand, nine, hundred five I. Don't know, but it's not even a fake snes controller or Sega Genesis Controller. He's playing with a joystick. That's weird right right? They're all fighting. Because Lexington isn't sharing and Broadway immediately makes a self deprecating fat food, joke, or whatever and Brooklyn was like Mulia. That is true. Your fat? Brooklyn is mad that he's not playing like it's all. Done, you'll how right like it's really weird because I'm only only one who knows how to do. You teach them how to do it. Then they can fucking play dude and Broadway. The whole time she said well I. Don't understand why you WANNA. Play this game anyway. Like fucking fly with our own wings, finally Daddy Goliath comes, and it's just like. He's just like all of you just showed up. I leave the house. You've. Got To reel to reel. This is the exhausted father whose children are stuck at home during summer, vacation or something like that. was what bothered me about this sibling shit like in. That's okay, but this is not the kind of fighting that they've done in the rest of the exactly what my issue was acis constant bickering and fighting that they're doing that. We're suddenly supposed to just believe this hasn't been a thing. They've been doing for eleven episodes I. Guess since they don't call each other friend anymore. Like I. Get this behavior. It just is absurd that it only happens sometimes whenever you have to. Have a plot reason exactly Broadway offers up a diaper baby. Excuse for their behavior I just WANNA play this clip really fast because it's pathetic. You some a little worried about Lisa. COPS were meant to fly. They'd have wings. It's weird that yeah. He's like Oh more at about her in the helicopter. How does he know? About episodes ago when she was in a helicopter or does he know that she's in a helicopter right now? Maybe he knows that like every day. She's just following the deluxe. Helicopter Yeah. Yeah so that seemed to. This is a strong episode so far. Oh, man from there back in the New York. City skyline, following Alexis Limo, and obviously he knows that they're they're. Shock you like Owen or are they still above us and? They've got a backup camera. They're just watching the whole time and I'm like they don't even need that. All they need to do is look out the window because it's a low flying helicopter, right? It's like fifteen feet above us. They're not even trying. Alexa just like excellent. Let's go shopping wight. What is? Mental later. Yeah well. We get the dastardly plan later on, and it makes no sense. I can't wait till we get there, but so confused about all those. This is the beginning of it. Did you notice. That Owen is in a limo driver uniform. Locks makes Owen change when he has to drive the car. He's like no. You can't wear your normal Cardigan. He's typically in like a suit, but if he's tasked with driving the car that day, you better fucking change. It's so bizarre because we know deluxe has his own limo driver yeah? Ellen was like the Limos waiting for you. Upfront drivers here unless he parked got out close. Win Said Hey, the Leno's ready. Give me five minutes. Need you're back to my outfit? King or something. I think he's being punished. A WINK! God okay all right, so they go to the diamond exchange like you said they're going shopping for a fun Montag. Is the diamond exchange of real saying because it's like a rich people thing I don't understand. Yes, it's a rich people thing. I understand it because you know in our listeners on very wealthy, so I'm always wearing a Tux right now. It's after six. What am I far? We're in the diamond exchange yeah. We've moved into the diamond exchange, and all these people are in like gowns and Tuxes just normal shopping attire, or is this an event Liz? It's like after midnight. Also we see a clock outside in a previous scene is around eleven forty when the when the episode starts, so this is a fucking writer of a party. If we're all still buying times after midnight. It's the VIP time go to Bed New York. City anyway, so you know it's showing the crowd of people, and then we see two familiar faces, Jacques Cal in Hannah I will admit I had no idea I. still don't know which ones Jacqueline, which ones because they never use each other's names to each other, and the gargoyles constantly referred to them as Jackal and Hyena Jackal is the man okay and Hyenas The lady. Yana is the lady and their siblings so another sibling duo in the show. For this episode I assume they got arrested. I assume that the gargoyles when they fought the pack and episode six, the Goliath in Lexington snatched Jacqueline Hyena to when when they left wolf and Fox to be arrested, because they did fight them or snatch them or fly them over a rooftop or something. There was yeah. Jackal tried to run away. Yeah, I think he was caught well, apparently, not because only Fox and wolf are in Prison Fox and wolf for both in prison and dingoes off somewhere in Europe. Apparently, he went to Europe. You know that one place I assumed previously that Jack, and he on or lovers. Are Siblings and that doesn't make it less weird that they have matching hair. Their hair doesn't actually does like a mullet thing. Weird dangling cyber any thing. Maybe it's genetic for them maybe I don't know, but doesn't even like regular sideburn. Also, why does she have sideburns? Why does she have very thick sideburns because she's GonNa, yeah, am I saying that I feel like that's right and you just go with that. You know I'm a smart guy and I know things. Will. The two of them are staring at a very giant diamond the. Diamond and Hyena is just like. I'm I'M GONNA forget how to pronounce words correctly. Hyena is just like I want that. And he's like. Perhaps let's not go crazy right now like I would rather not be jail with the other two. This is where we learned that. This is the most valuable stone on earth so New York. City just has available to buy. Yeah, that's not like a museum piece or anything like the eye of Odin or whatever from a couple of episodes ago. Yeah, this is just on the open rock market right okay. So they're getting ready to steal it because Hyena, it was just like no, but come on. Have a little fun. Let's steal it. We'll just you know guns blazing. Get Out of here. It's fine. They came in planning to steal it as we learn they I mean they had a whole set up on the roof, but maybe they going to steal something, and she's like no that that's true. She does act like it's the first time she's ever hearing about. Yeah, yeah, or that's how the dumb script is written. So, they're about to start the stealing process and a woman who works at the Diamond Exchange opens it up with a fancy card and. Carries it away. They're like. Oh, excuse me. We were looking at WanNa. Take I mean by and she's like Oh sorry. This has been claimed and they're like by WHO. Obviously than it does yeah. The valuable stone on earth, and he's just like you by that. Yeah, he doesn't have to, I don't know. Consult with financial advisors or anything like he's so rich that I don't even know what to price this as in my head to make it the most valuable stone on planet, ten billion dollars, two million dollars I. Don't know how much Iraq cost 'cause. It's fucking Rock, you guys. Diamonds are Shining Earth bits that idiots assign worth. Worth two for comparison, the hope diamond is worse somewhere between two hundred, three, hundred and fifty million US dollars. Okay, so we'll call on the high end. Three hundred fifty million dollars, and the key ot diamond is more expensive than that, so we'll call it three hundred fifty one million dollars, so he can on a whim. He has that much money just in his bank account. That can be like here. Take my black American Express. He paid cash. Just had that in his pocket. He's got fifth fourth is. He's wearing huge cargo gene. So the twins I've decided. They're twins now. Because of the hair, they're very upset because they are sociopathic narcissistic, and so they do a very logical and reasonable thing here they attack, not only did they attack? They got recognized for being the TV. Stars are. fucking. She going to kill this guy. Excuse me, weren't you? On the TV show the pack. Why yes would you like an autograph? How about high right across your thanks. Getting on the plume. All you wanted to do was say hi. His favorite celebrity. This guy favorite no more. What if what if she still was? He's like no I think i. like her a little bit more now. I'm a little turned on. Actually I was not expecting this when I came to by ten million dollar diamond. Okay, so they get their hands on the diamond, and then they just start somersaulting through the roof, right? Literal clowns like fucking. Shit is can't just run out. The door gotTA. Do somersaults fucking mortal combat to? Mashing all the buttons. Yeah someone has never played this game before, and they're just doing front flips across the room. Sh. Yeah, 'cause they like bicycle kicked deluxe. To get the diamond of his hand. I don't sound like this. A fucking diamond exchange I'm only going to assume they have pretty hardcore security. No, but they. Didn't even put this diamond in a case deluxe bought it. He took it in his bare hand. Yeah, he didn't even put on her gloves or anything. I'm so rich I don't even care if this makes it worth less white glove service for the fucking most expensive diamond on the planet. He just wraps dirty Hanky. Quixote diamond diamonds covering books Oh. God! into an owing this just shrug. Nothing. The DOODOO bested deluxe in judo. Episodes ago, he's like it's not my problem. By the time whatever? Get paid to do, but this, isn't it? I'm the LIMO driver tonight. Take that asshole for making me wear this book. You want my regular. No. driver. Driver is a coward. Liz! This episode is nuts. I can't remember the last time we've got a big action secrets this early for new. fucking reason okay. Okay so, they leave the room. Yeah, they make a break for it and deluxe calmly tells Owen to call the police right, even though either one of them could have chased down and caught up very quick. You know that should have been my first indicator that this was not what? Yeah, there's obviously some secret machinations. Yeah, it was just like the first time the. Helmet guys came and stole his briefcase episode two or whatever Oh yeah she's like. Hey Google's go get it I'll have some dragon. We'll call the police. But this time he does want to call the police. Yeah, okay, so we follow the twins up the stairs and it cuts to Hyena kicking a steel door office inches. Now I have two questions for you Liz I how? Also Jesus Christ who why turning the handle well as we have learned pretty fast. How you know doesn't use any logic ever. She just does whatever the fuck seems fun and. I. Don't know like she is definitely action I think later, if ever. She is she's unhinged. She's a violent psychopath. Cheese own hinged. God. You're laughing because they get out to the roof where they've stowed hang-gliders-. Are You fucking kidding? The Shit is so fucking. Ninety s let us. Have you ever seen a hang glider in real life? Because I'm not sure they actually exist. No I don't think I have. Hang, gliders, yes, I have from afar. The balloon balloon race and there was someone doing angler. Yes, I, think, hang gliders, and because they were jumping out of a plane, and then like landing on the ground, but but happens no matter what you could jump out of a plane to have nothing on you still laying on the ground. The day you jump out of a plane and you shoot straight up. Something went wrong. But anyway hang gliders hang gliders, the most extreme of air travel I'm sorry, ex. Yeah the way that they put them together is up realistic. Pup Tent to couple of of sticks, yeah, and some kind of tarp get yourself a tent or hang glider whatever? Sky Tanzania. That's what they're called now. They run to the edge of the roof, ready to take off, and then suddenly the NYPD appear. That's really convenient right now. Do you think that Dream Boat and brother Dream Boat were already flying around hovering around in that area because they knew that deluxe was in there. No, Liz I think a rich white dude. Call the police, and said someone stole the most valuable diamond on the planet that he just happened to buy and Andy. Police jumped on it because this. Is New York City and That's just fact. That's truth Dach- white man, said police jump, and they said how high to the roof. I, mean is the helicopter does floating off in the distance waiting for deluxe in co to exit the building I mean that's crazy. That's not something that detective dream, but what do waste police resources even more. No is no. It's definitely the rich white guy thing. Probably both we'll. Her brother did say fine. We'll do this weird stalking thing, but as soon as a real call goes through. We're taking care of that and it just happens to be the recall this. They get the call on the police radio like. Diamond Robert the Diamond Exchange I'll points bullet whatever and then Derek has to get on and said Oh. We're actually just floating right near there. Don't ask why we're audit. ooh! I was holding up the finger phone for. Do. You think they'd be talking. Through a now Liz, my world is crumbling. Anyway, so the chopper makes the gliders disappears. fucking, blow away like. which if the twins are strapped to their hang-gliders- shouldn't. They have blown away like kites, but they don't think they're attached I. Think it's something you just hold on. That's not how gliders work, and we're going to get to that in a second. Okay, so yeah, the hang gliders blow away. The twins are blown back and cal. He makes a run for it and I ain't fucking dress just blows up around her waist, and it's a wide shot, so you can't see but pretty positive. She was drawn with underwear. I missed that detail completely. Freak you went to that party to steal a diamond? Not Wearing underwear she was doing all those flips our wearing underwear, and all those kicks now wearing underwear. Fly a glider across the New York skyline not wearing underwear. She a freak girl. Whatever makes you happy? Girl, what are you doing? Those high kicks mattress now, wearing underwear. That's why that guy came up to talk to her. Like. Holy Shit and got span. God The shows bonkers. This episode is in saying Yeah So of course Jackal and Hyena are not going to just run away. No, they have to fight. Jackal has a fucking rocket launcher. Hit It on this roof I. Don't know but I. Bet there's a popcorn maker up there. lizzy said something about a rocket launcher. There's a rocket launcher I've never planned a diamond heist, but I don't think that a rocket launcher is a necessary piece of equipment. It sure works where this plot. It's a good thing. I packed my rocket launcher because I knew you were going to be attacked by a police helicopter. What's yeah, so? He shoots off the racket and hit the back of the helicopter that Derek is piloting and he manages a really rough. Crash landing, and but he does quite well well the reason that they don't just explode to polices because deluxe finally decides to show up any tackle. Jackal is a jackal tackle so instead of just hitting detective Dream Boat Square in the jaw with a rocket. It hits the tail that makes sense. Yeah, so just really really quickly I hit on this point again packed all their hidden knives packed to hang. Gliders packed a rocket launcher didn't beg. Priority is priority is. Like I said the helicopter land safely, and the twins just continue fighting fucking relentlessly Jesus Christ then. They pull out more knives. Where does she keep these knives on that dress well not in a band of her underpants. I don't know. Maybe she's got like one of those I whole story things, but for knives Is it a knife Ulster? Do you put knives in a holster? Belt I'm not sure what it's called. Carrier in Caves hearing engaged. Yeah, that's eloquent roles after yeah. Knives, we were talking about knives. The twins are going to straight up murder deluxe in front of two police officers like it's nothing like I'm GonNa. Stab this dude. You're cops. We don't care because we are psychopaths. Meanwhile, the first thing Jackal had said earlier in the show was I. really don't WanNa. Go to jail. Yeah, so maybe we don't do this. And yet here they are never mind. Let's just go to jail I guess none of this episode makes sense in relation to other parts of the same episode, not even talking about trying to tie it to other episodes right so they're gonNA straight up stabbed deluxe, and then they don't because dream boat steps, except for she was there the whole time, but like I never mind. We're going to leave, so they snatch up their extreme. Hang gliders, and they jump off the building, and they fall to their deaths immediately because they do not strap themselves into the hang gliders. So here's that point. I mentioned earlier in a hang glider. You have to be physically strapped into it. Because how else would you fly it? There's like a tether around your waist in the bar. You hold onto for steering. But it's like a big kite. You put on your back and then the bar you steer with. Yeah. They did not strap themselves in now. They jumped to their deaths except they didn't accept. What the again this from a person, who three minutes ago was disputing their existence, know how they fucking work more than the people that bother to draw them and write them into the show. I would say just been easy Google search, but this was one thousand, nine, hundred six. The Internet still existed fucking fire up, Netscape, navigator and search for pictures of hang gliders Oh, bt dubs. They left the fucking diamond behind. Yeah! This is mine and puts it back in his pocket. Yeah, this chip shitty diamond. That's probably all scuffed up and fucked up and it's worth nowhere near what he paid for now. But elects had a pretty funny thing to say to Dream Boat fucking smarmy prick. Let's listen real fans. Never gargoyles around you need while now lives. What does he even trying to say here? Never a giggle around when you need one is. He's saying he needed a giggle or she needed one. I mean I don't know like he was saved. No harm came to him or his diamond. She saved him from being castrated like they were going to cut his balls off probably and then like feed them to him or something because Hyena again, psychopath. Yeah, the Gargoyles weren't needed. No, they accomplish their mission on their own. The whole scene ends very weirdly when deluxe goes over to flirt with Derek and offer him a job as helicopter pilot slash bodyguard. What is Owens opposed to do? Relegated to only driving the Limo I knew this was a weird punishment. Do you think deluxe just cut? Owen Brings Derek around. He's like Oh. You're guarding my body so well, isn't he? Guarding my body so well, Owen. Look we guards me. You Watch him guard me. This is all punishment because of that one time that Owen beat him. Yes, yes, that's exactly what? He has to power play somehow God. Watching. Guard my body you little bitch. God kinky motherfucker Derek maybe being a cop is hard I mean what what's the worst you get into? Oh, you're nearly murdered, right? This is your first experience with deluxe. And, he's like it's less dangerous. That'd be a cop enable be way way more. Do not what what? Someone fired a rocket at you. Because I'm hitting him, how could you think that this is safer? Like are you fucking kidding me which to be fair? That's accurate because again like Derek Open. Your fucking is fucking is dude. You crash landed a helicopter tonight. Were you expecting to ruin? Apparently, the Newark Police departments only helicopter. Liz that's one of the scene now before we move on. There are a couple points. I wanted to hit on earlier in the scene. That were very funny to me. One are they TV stars are they mercenaries. They jewel thieves. How do these three careers overlap? Well? I mean it doesn't seem like a very good jewel-thieves. Maybe this is the first time, but the idea that we just keep adding things to their resume is nuts well. They're only TV stars. Because deluxe made them be that right? Yeah, like he hired them. To take down the Gargoyles, but gave them the front of the TV show. I have to assume that they were a TV show before the Gargoyles Shit came to be because they had that shit. At Madison Square Garden. They had a sold out live performance. Yeah, it's all very weird. It's like Oh, we need something to fill this role as well. It'd be the pack, so are they only? Only TV stars and they weren't a mercenary. I did deluxe hire them to be a group of mercenaries and then put them on TV. I don't know right. They all make it sound like they're thrillseekers like they all want to do like the really extreme things, and like extreme I want to know and I doubt we'll ever getting insane. Yeah, okay, my other point. They call each other by. By their pack animal names, yes, like Jackal talks about Fox and Wolf. Yes, not Stephanie and Dave. Do they not know each other's real names think those are real name. You think that deluxe happened to find people who were named Dingo Fox Wolf Jacqueline Hyena. It's like they're in character all the time which makes me think that's not a character. That's actually their persona, but they were brought together. Together as a team like they didn't know each I don't know or maybe there was like fifteen years ago because they talk about like fighting a war in the jungles of Central America like dingoes says that in episode six. What the fuck is the pack? I don't know I really want to know and I wanted to like. Do some Internet research on them, but I don't want to find. Yeah. I it does not make any sense right now. It makes zero sense I'm hoping that it all comes together and like they're a team of Merck's than an twenty years ago. They were they were working together. And maybe they all split up, but deluxe brought him act together, and he gave him this TV front to help his old pals out. It's a war buddies. Yeah, and they became rich and famous in because he set them up that way he gets them to do whatever the fuck he wants, but only through Fox, and not even wolf I thought that Wolf was the guy in charge, but it's totally far this is. Okay all right. Let's get off the pack stuff and let's go to our next scene where we are fuck at the package Q. Okay Liz. Yes Liz these two fucking geniuses just committed multiple crimes, so they go where no one will ever find them. Their base of operations there well known and established television studio, and then they change in their stupid recognizable TV, costumes those are just. They're real clothes. They were wearing regular clothes. They were wearing fancy people close the. Farmer uniform. All right we come into Jackal on the phone with Fox in this is when we learned that. She's actually the one in charge. And I have a terrible stupid. Note here, but I'm not sure if you noticed. There's nowhere for this phone to be plugged then Jacqueline on accorded phone. That's just on a table in the middle of the room. This is a very minor detail in this episode of insane details, ridiculous plot threads and all kinds of shit, but are they suggesting that there is a phone Jack in the middle of the floor in the middle of their. Jim I would guess that the animators didn't pay attention to that at all, or is there a fifty foot phone cord? The goes off to the side where there is a phone Jack. urged tripping over all the time. Yes, that's part of their training is to avoid. The court will avoid the cord, okay. They. All fail at it all the time, God. You pulled the phone off the table again. Episode is making me exhausted. Is What happens next. From there. We learn that they have new orders from Fox which is killed Alexa for interfering. Excuse me! They interfered with his diamond purchase buying the thing. Wouldn't kill a man for buying a diamond. How dare you be so rich? You legally bought it so you must die. But you know them like. Is Way too excited at the idea that she was just given the go to kill him, which is hilarious? They're gonNA. Kill him anyway before. She was going to stab him in the Dick to death, but now she goes the official. Okay that it's okay to kill him before it was a ask for forgiveness, not permission type now you have the green light like. She is excited and ready to do some murdering. These people are killers. Yeah, you have to assume little. Did we know that those Ninjas that they've been fighting? Are actually just like real people that they forced into custody Moan and we get to kill you. They're prisoners. Those are people that have been kidnapped and they were told that they can fight for their freedom, and then they're murdered by the pack and everyone every episode everyone cheers them for being the good guys. Pack is dark. The? She has gargoyles in it. We go back to the clock tower. I forgot. This is the second scene of the episode with Gargoyles in a show that if I'm not mistaken, is called a oil well, Dream Boat is real upset that Derek is considering taking job from Deluxe I. Think this whole stupid even is involving the Gargoyles to begin with right like I. Feel like there's plenty of shitty things that deluxe has done. That isn't cargo related that she would be like. Hey, look at all these things in. Yes, I know some of it hasn't been like officially. Whatever by the police by trust me I'm your sister like believe me by says she's just like. I think I need to tell him about all of you, but it's not my truth that tell and glide like fucking. Just tell him like it's fine. Everyone else knows already like. Keeping the goal secret, anyway, corporate espionage, a private militia stolen property giant killer. The mech suit. None of that has to involve. The. Gargoyles, you can just use the robot. You can just omit the fact that they are living dragons in new. York City all of that stuff still happened. She's just ashamed. She doesn't want him to know about her love affair with Goliath. This seems like such lazy writing, and this is a trope that I hate is like on the top of my list of troops and I hate the I can't trust the person I'm talking to Derrick doesn't trust his sister for reasons because it doesn't fit the plot of this episode, but. But he's her fucking brother like this should be an easy conversation to have right. They're both police officers like they work together their close like it's been stated throughout the whole series like we know, she's very close to her family. Not like this is my brother that I haven't talked to months and Blah Blah Blah. They have a good relationship and her being like look little brother. I really really don't think this is a good idea like let my life tally led to do. But let me just tell you about the robot. No, let me tell you about how he has a private militia I care. Do you know how many times he's blown up parts of the city? He dropped half of his own building on the streets of New York City at the very least he's unstable. Yeah, I'm sorry sister, but you should see what he offered me. The pay my God that pay now granted. There's no way that the people that wrote this well the people. Michael Mike Michael Leaves thought about things like this, but. Because if you give it a thought that we have, you can't write this up. You can't write it this way. No. Just bothered me a lot. That like okay. They're close the balloons and he won't even give her a second to explain why she feels this way. Yeah, so she has to tell him about her dragon boyfriend. No, you don't so. This ends with Lexington actually making a very good point, the pack are dangerous, and apparently they're on the loose in the city, threatening to kill people granted. It was deluxe, but still we got. Got To do something about them. It's not wrong when it makes sense that he's the one that points out since he was the one that got in the trouble to begin with. It's like in the last episode where Brooklyn wasn't allowed to go after Dimona. Yeah, he had a personal thing although Lexington gets to go after the pack I don't know why. That was okay because he's not as hot headed as Brooklyn. Liz from here, we moved to the police headquarters I. Mean I guess we're in that building. We go downstairs. That's what that's. What really happens. We go downstairs because it's time for that sibling. Heart to heart that dream boat wants to have, but it's too late because Derek has decided to take his job offer, and there's no going back on a decision like that you can't. Take an offer I don't know what that word would be. What's so weird? Is that I think this is the same night, so he didn't really give it much. Thought I know and we didn't see him. Actually like a monetary offer, which is a small thing I mean it was a dude who just nonchalantly bought a fucking giant demand, so I'm going to also do. His throat slit on a rooftop. Yeah, and he's like I've given this a lot of thought and I was almost blown up earlier tonight, but and they want to take the shop and them the really fucking dramatic gasp that she does like you really that surprised that your brother did this. He seemed very interested and wouldn't listen to you, and he probably will just offered a ton of money and you're like. Those good I think we should go to advocate on that cool. 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Okay so I'm skipping the whole setup, but dream her dad or or meeting, and they're talking and she's eating bread sticks out of a glass. Table I thought because she's drinking coffees. I was thinking it's she drinking coffee because he's drinking brown liquor, he's definitely drinking whiskey, but she has a Coffee Cup I. Drink my Whiskey Auto Coffee Cup at home. Well, let's fair. I WanNa, have the handle. I don't trust myself especially after few mugs of Whiskey WanNa have that handle. Okay. So. Daddy Dream Boat and Lil Dream Boat. They're talking about Derek. Their time about the situation she goes and talks to her dad instead of her brother. Do they have the conversation? We don't I doubt it, but it doesn't seem that way. It seems like Derek decided. I'm going to take the job. And she just wordlessly turned around and left to go drink with their dad. I can't convince them, but Shirley Daddy can. I can't convince them even though I did not try. Her Dad called the police force of the family business, and that was just a really gross. Yeah, I didn't like that is I. Have Issues with our police force, but okay. That's a very very good pointless. From, their Dad's like talk to him Shirley I can convince him, and then he goes on to say it would just kill your mother when if he were to leave the family business which transitions us. The Dream Boat House. Into hilariously proven wrong of the MOMS just like. This is a great opportunity. Yeah definitely take your decision. Do whatever you want, Sweetie. Life the forest a pension who needs that like? Apparently, the dad did not understand the mom at all. Yeah, there's not a lot of good communication and his family. Maybe that's the real problem here in this family needs some counseling. Yeah, based on all the conversations that dream boat and brother Adrien Brody attempt to have, but don't actually ever have because they're just like say to worry. They'll be like shut up now. Was it like y'all don't know how to communicate with each other. I mean sisters are terrible human beings. All of them everywhere, not true every single sister, a wonderful sister I'm terrible sister. As we moved to the police headquarters the Amends Locker Room. Where we finally get the male nudity that I feel that the show is definitely been lacking. Yes, Derek is in the locker room like I said he's. He's with his fellow nude officers being new together and there's a really weird line. Read that happens. Unless let me play this for our audience and I'll let you reminisce about the nudity. Closure is boys got business in here. Oh Great. Detective. Some privacy in a minute, why would be naked? Men have to close their eyes. Not Cover your bits, boys. Here is you don't want to see a fully close lady which addicts? Why would they need to close their eyes barging into the men's locker room like? She knows her brothers in the locker room where there are naked men. What if her brothers Dick was hanging out? How would she feel about walking in to a full view of her brothers, Cock and balls? Would it matter his is would be closed. That's true. He wouldn't be able to tell. He wouldn't know what she was seeing because his eyes are closed. And then one of her fellow officers, her co workers that she is verbally abusing sexually harassing. Like what you okay, so she walks in, and we're fellow officers like hey, how about a little bit of privacy you know? I'm naked here and she's like fuck you. I gotTa talk to my brother. Let's. Holy, Shit! All these guys are like hiding behind their locker doors like. A sensible amount of modesty from these men. The one guy his tidy Whitey. WHO. And he totally looks like her new partner. Who I guess just disappeared. No, I would agree. That's probably him and the officer that says how about some privacy is officer from episode one in the opening scene another one that's played by Glenn some continuity in a very bad. Yeah. Oh my God I just! The scene is so fucking bunker. Yeah, I hope someone files a formal complaint with hr they should you say you have? Some notes had a paragraph regarding close your eyes. Michael. Maybe. He thought it was funny like I. Don't think kids are GonNA laugh at that. No, because it's dumb, fucking, it makes no sense I mean. It would make sense if she walked in and she had like tits out. I mean that would make sense, but the line would made. Hold on talked to my brother did out. Yeah, okay, so why did she come into this room? So my mind has been white, so she goes into the room to force a conversation to happen regarding the fact that he had accepted the job and is the same night again i. don't understand time and she'd go from the bar to the locker room. Maybe she was having an Irish coffee and that's why she thinks this is a good idea. Derek was at his mom's house. What is the timeline here? Okay so. She's just like we're forcing this conversation I need to explain to you why this is a bad idea and he should like. This is my life, my decision and to be fair. She's making some really weird choices right now, but she has had to deal with him. A lot more than brother Dream Boat has had to deal looks like maybe listened to your sister for a split second. If for no other reason, she's acting irrational. She's obviously very passionate about the fact that you she doesn't want you to work there. Maybe figure out why so just be like fine. Okay out with it. What's your fucking problem with deluxe right? Let me put my Dick Away and you could tell me what your deal is. Like how he was like the only fully clothed person in that locker, he was packing up. He quit his job right. He's packing up, but in my line reading he's doing all that, but also Mak- sweaty work packing up your locker. Yeah, he had to. You gotta take his shirt off, and also paints in his underpants left socks. You don't want to get the fungus issues. I never lived in a dorm, but I've seen it on TV. They were the flip flops. ups okay. So! Derek made his own choices. See quit his job. He gave up his pension. Good Jap Derrick, okay Liz. Can we just go upstairs? And just how needed see gargoyles again? Let's to those guys. To cause. Is there fucking show after all dream? Boat is just complaining. She's burrowing even deeper into Derek's Asshole, suggesting that maybe you guys. Could you just like keep an eye on him? Just watch him when he's at his new job. Can you stock my brother for me and Goliath? Surgery but we'll do for you. That's a good idea. Get over here, you three I. Know that you were being written as pains in the ass to each other because it's funny. But go work together on this thing Stockman or moving on that's Ritz I'll. The scene is the essence to set up this scouting session so from there we jump to the top of a building where the gargoyles are keeping an eye on the castle to see deluxe and Derek are doing guest starred his job immediately. Yeah, he walked out of the police station and he took a cab to widen tower, and now he works there and lacks the antennas all upset because I mean he does have a personal connection to the pack. Yeah, he's like we shouldn't even be here. We need to be out looking for the. PAC members? and Broadway's now do we gotta to help out at least a member when I shot her I'm really trying to make up for that, so we got do what she wants to do. Brooklyn's like we gotta go. Follow the fucking Hell guys over here. The helicopters leaving collide is going to be so mad if we don't vote. Hiding at this point is just obnoxious like I know we've talked about it earlier in the episode. But why are Lexington and Broadway up each others butts right now, and Brooklyn doesn't really seem to be part of the fight eight. It's mostly between Lexington, and Broadway because their motivations are at odds, and that's as good as I got for you, you know, but even before they knew there was any issues, they were already bickering and fighting. You know. Maybe it's because mark. Is Hack fucking Michael. That's unfair I take that back, but this is a very weak episode, and I won't stop saying anyway. I don't know I guess we're GonNa Follow helicopter which we see that someone else is also following deluxe is helicopter. Yeah, it's a good thing that they decided to take off and followed Alexis helicopter because the pack as it turns out. Out has a fucking weaponize branded pack helicopter and they are on the hunt. Jackal knows how to fly a helicopter apparently, but they aren't. They concerned about their public image. No, there are TV. Stars branded helicopter and it's like Oh. What is that battle going on in the sky? Oh? It's the pack I know that emblem I have it on my underpants. Poster of my bed, so Liz Jackal knows how to fly a helicopter, but they were going to use hang-gliders- which they did not know funny. Cautioning against is what I'm saying. Shennanigans so, we do get a pretty fun. Airborne fight here a little bit of a chase scene. Yeah, which you don't see, helicopter chases all then often. No, I did enjoy this for the ridiculousness that it was yes. The pack helicopter has heavy artillery and they're taking shots at deluxe and I gotTA wonder. Where's that immediate police response from earlier, but then you gotta think? They're only helicopter was nearly destroyed. Yeah, that's true, but you would think Derek Bean. ex-police would be like perhaps I should call the police. No, he can handle it. Have Police GonNa. Do they've only got one helicopter pilot and it's me I guess they don't have one anymore as a weird line for me. I'm Derek. was, all scripted. I was playing the part of Derek then I wasn't just confused by my own notes. I felt it in my soul was Deepak fires through a building where there is another high-rise rich person party. Of course. Maybe it's the same one. Maybe that Shit's going on for days, diamond exchange is wild. Hyena decides that these very deadly machine. Guns aren't enough, so she starts firing rockets again with the rockets. The show and rockets they're fun. They make big explosions like explosions and fire were thinking what fifty cal machine guns rockets and also not managing to take down deluxe. Derek I mean that is. Fine, don't forget Derek. This is a safer job than what you were doing. This. Is Your first official night on the job? In the second time you've been fired upon by the pack with rockets, apparently within the same twenty four hours. We have not seen a sunrise listeners. If we've got anybody listening. That's from New York or that knows anyone that lives in New York. Let us know how often you see. Rocket fights in the sky, or is it more like a ninety s thing? I'm guessing that Giuliani clean that shit up that he fixing America's mayor Rudy Giuliani. My guess is up post nine eleven. They got a little stricter about their sky fights. Oh! Yeah pre-nine Eleven, so it's still allowed. Eleven changed so much for us. So the brogue oils swooped down and they start literally ripping apart the pack helicopter. God Broadway just fucking grabbing Hyena and chucking out of the. Were death like that is some Dimona. Shea. She has a parachute which he didn't know, so he thought he was throwing her to her death. Lot of plummeting to your death in the show in general, yes, I got to say like I. Don't know the specifics of how parachutes work, but I think you have to be like a certain height above the ground for them to properly deploy Molson. He probably don't want to be surrounded by buildings. Yeah, so I'm pretty sure that Hyena died. Do you think that the packer actually human I? Bet they're cyborgs or or like cybernetic robots, and that's why we keep seeing them die very curious about that myself like I feel like there's some non human aspect to them like they're all part animal supersonic strength, supersonic strength Thing and they have very strong hearing. Okay, so there's some death. Broadway does murdered a lady Yoga. Deluxe takes this rescue as a chance to escape, they make a hasty getaway and we cut back to the brogue oils as Lexington throws jackal to his death. Okay, suddenly he strong enough to throw a man. Okay, what I don't see any problems. Here is episode of Perfect Liar. They so all over the place of how strongly are so? This is win the this. This call back to the video game happens because Lexington. After throwing Jangle to his death, he takes over piloting the pack mobile. How hard could it be right except for apparently really hard, because we assume they crash and die, because we cut to black and go to commercial. How about we do the same thing? Cut to black and probably die. Yeah in commercials. Thanks for listening help others find our show by rating and reviewing on I tunes checkout calamity cast dot Com for more content, and follow us on Facebook, twitter, and Instagram to get in touch and let us know how we're doing. If you like what you hear and you want to help, keep the lights on. Consider becoming a regular calamity cast contributor patriotic war. If you'd like to make a one time donation, you can do so at pay. Pal Dot me, slash clemency cast. We appreciate your support and your donations truly make a difference. Hello everybody. Did you enjoy that break? We survived the fall. Like our friends. They are plummeting to their death. When we come back and Brooklyn makes a star wars reference, which is pretty cool. I enjoyed it, so the scene becomes a dangerous comedy of errors. As Lexington tries to desperately fly the quickly failing helicopter through the streets of New York City and I do mean streets. Yes, they are narrowly avoiding hitting cars causing crashes, etc and people are running chaos. Nobody bothers to worry about the fact that they're are living. Dragons nightly causing untold damage to the city, so they somehow managed to navigate to an alley and. Land, but it's a questionable landing How about we take a listen to what Lexington has to say about it? Smooth real smooth. Take any landing you can walk away from. Okay, so is I thought this was weird? I vaguely recognised this as a quote, so I did a little bit of research. What Lexington says is attributed to the World War Two pilot. Chuck Yeager, who, if you are interested was the first person to break the sound barrier. That's cool. The actual quote though is if you can walk away from landing. It's a good landing. If you can use the airplane, the next day is an outstanding landing. Now. My problem with this quote being said by Lexington is how would he know? We don't see him devouring books in a library like we do Goliath I think it's just Michael Thinking. He's being clever, just putting in these references Mungo. Guys let's you hide this helicopter, so we can fix it later. Let's hide the helicopter Lexington. He can get it running again, so let's hide it. How Liz if you had to hide a helicopter? Where might you know how big this thing I mean? It fits all of the gargoyles and detective, Mazal later on right. How do they get it? That's exactly what I was to ask. How do they get it to the clock tower for him to work on it? They can't fi so they could flap their wings and carry it. They couldn't care and if they could flap their wings. It's fucking helicopter. It's gotTA. Wait tons. That would have been instances where they were super strong suddenly. Anyway so from there. We moved back to the clock tower. Lexington thinks that he can get this helicopter up and running by tomorrow which we're in the middle of the night, presumably feel like we have to be really really close to sunrise at this point like this has been forever long day I. Mean I assume we're skipping cuts to the daytime. Maybe 'cause all the action is at night, although you'd think that they could have put some of the weird scenes like the locker room scene were what is the bar scene? Put those during the day, so we have a passage of time exactly because all of this happens at night. How many days have we gone through? What he's able to actually get this helicopter fiction up and running in like two hours, and as we see later on, it's like an entire rebuild. Yeah, do you think all gargoyles have this kind of capacity for learning like Broadway could be a master chef or something else? hilariously food related a blogger. He's a food blogger. He's an okay. It's just he does it. That's the worst part it doesn't take days or weeks the next day. There's another fight there in the HELOC. Off graded the helicopter so fucking smart. What isn't? He invented pants? With the tail, whole man! Yeah, put on a shirt SMART, guy. So Broadway asks. Why do they need a helicopter? Because you fucking idiot, they need to keep up with Derek but again why it makes sense if they think it'd be useful for getting the pack, yeah, why is it that important to keep up with deluxe and Derek? You mean because this episode has given us no reason to think that deluxe done anything wrong because so far, he hasn't oh I duNno, also why can't the New York City? Police? Department in their New York. York City Police. Department helicopters do that kind of thing. Casper supposed to believe that dream boat is doing this off the clock, so she's not officially being a detective. That's crazy. Also that could probably get her fired oh. Yeah, I'm guessing there's a lot of things she could actually get her fired I bet she used to be a really good like by the books cop, and then she started running with his bad crowd. You know just bad influences gargoyles. What's kind of? It's hard to measure anymore. What's kind of weird in this episode? But it is strange that Goliath thinks it's a good idea to get the helicopter up and running. He's like yeah, no, you do it. That's not in character for him, but I guess it's dream things. It's a good idea he's like. Yeah, you know sometimes, you just don't want to contradict your partner. Yeah, okay well. What's the worst that can happen right? And then fucking Brooklyn makes a star Trek. Reference Okay I thought that was was like. There has to be starfleet calls him starfleet. You don't know because you've never seen the show. You famously never seen any star. Trek I. Feel like this one I just can't you shouldn't. It's at least we know that Michael's. Michael's good at putting in random pope references I mean I feel like not all of his episodes have been this bad, but this is one that's trying to do so much. Not doing any of it well 'cause. It's twenty two minutes. Yeah, he's got so many little bits and pieces going on I. Feel like that's typically his big issue is. You tries to do way too much instead of honing in and focusing on a couple. Lines! Yeah, but this whole thing I mean okay, so let's just get back into it. I guess Oh. They step out for nine nights right here. Actually, this is the first time where we assume a transition because everyone is going outside. Goliath tells dream boat that she needs to tell Derek about the gargoyles. Because that's all the proof he'll need of whatever deluxe plans are. Are we don't know that deluxe has plans. The existence of Gargoyles will be proof of that or something. It would be one thing if these characters could say what they think deluxe is up to just postulate right. I guess Goliath is zooming. Because of all the bad things that deluxe has done regarding the gargoyles be like look gargoyles. What more do you need, right? What give me more cysts. We'll just going. Yup, we go to sing. Sing prison. I assume I don't know if there are any other prisons in new. York but I've I watched law and order so I know that there's things. Dream Boat is having a chat with Fox. Is this during work hours? Should she be with her partner? This is when we get the plot of the entire episode. At fifteen minutes of twenty two. This is what everyone's been worried about again. No one's wrong about deluxe, but they're just making wild assumptions, so let's let Fox lay it all out for us and explain everything even after being explained doesn't actually make any sense any. Socks to find out. I know why you're here. David told me you'd come. He, created the pack. You know got us together me. Wolf Hyena Jackal Dingo. PUT US on. The air made a stars. Then, why are Jacqueline high in trying to kill him? They don't know he's the boss only I do. David told me to have them hit the diamond exchange and then make himself the next target. He said up his own assassination attempt, but why he wants your brother and what David Santos once he gets this when we learned that David created the pack, but I don't think Dream Boat and the gargoyles new still ex Bush talking to I think Owen so I think this is the first time they're learning this information, but we as the viewer knew this already, but it only brings up more questions. Because what does she mean by that? She means that they were six individuals, and then he hired them individually were they a pack of mercenaries that he made into famous TV stars. What does? Does this mean because they already had the weird animal theme Fox has the I thing. Yes, did he make her do that Oh God? It's a tattoo. None of birth market. He hold her down and tattooed her face. Well the thing that boggles my Bryan even more than all of that is. He planned all of this, so he planned for the diamond to be stolen from him, and then planned his own assassination, and we don't really know why we do is. He wants Deir Al Right? It was all it was all up what I mean. Why does he want? Derek is deluxe trying to do some weird seduction. Thing is deluxe, trying to make Derek his new Owen, are they? Trying to make Derek completely reliant on deluxe for you. Know love as many. I think it's a big ploy to piss off dream Bose's bucket with drinks I think he's fine with dream. Bow Like I think he's literally doing this because he likes making angry and he knows that Dream Boat can't actually get him on anything you know what he could do. He could go to the top of the Police Tower at eleven am with a sledgehammer. Sledgehammer he doesn't know there. I'm sorry he knows so fucking much now. He has to put together this ridiculous convoluted plan. He doesn't know what the fucking gargoyles are. I do not believe that because Fox's like You don't even understand how many steps ahead he is from you'll. She works in the same building that she put the fucking gargoyles and he doesn't know that. I refuse to believe that he didn't accidentally find. That was a big open space above her place of work. Maybe I should check their. Oh, there are weird. Statues were there weren't. So that conversation ends yeah, and Dream Boat Leaves yes. She pulls out her little cassette recorder. Phone and plays a little blip, so we can hear that she'd been recording. Fox The whole time God! That'd be so embarrassing if she forgot to record when she went. Just, fart sounds from when she was in the car or just thinking you would like. She also uses the dictate her diary and like. Goliath took. Date last night and it was wonderful. And she's like Oh. She's working on Sin Erotic. Literature. As. She doesn't realize that she didn't actually record. There's enhance ought to her brother. Office I. Mean you're writing could use some more. Do you think that Fox. Is that was going to happen. Do you think that she told all of that? To Dream, boat knowing that Dream Boat would record that or deluxe new told Fox that. Going to record if anything, it would definitely be deluxe being like all right Fox. Go ahead and tell her everything, and it would make sense that he would do that because he assumes she would think she's being sneaky. Yeah was I. don't I don't actually know how this scene ended? Because when I heard that deluxe is probably at Xanadu, his upstate retreat I started. Cracking up, it was so stupid. I literally was like fuck you over whatever was happening in the rest of the scene. I was like a foghorn of fuck you. Upstate retreat called ZANU. Did. This was that it was pretty much. I literally stopped paying attention when xanadu happened. Because my next note is about Lexington uh-huh, yeah I want to go to there. We are back in the sky, and Lexington is flying. A helicopter suddenly knows how to fly it because he didn't the day before he played video games. Yeah, in between fixing the helicopter fucking. Fix this thing. He rebuilt it. He rebuilt a added onto it. He added. Added Armor. Broadway has the fucking audacity to call a junk pile. Yes, you wonder why. Everyone hates you or do you pretty much? have it figured out dude? Everyone always shits on you and Causey. Big, fat, boy, little pig, man, you fucking wonder why Lexington literally did the impossible of course could Lexington I mean he does machines. He's the show's. Donatello so from here. We moved Xanada, fire all. Because you know any rich person who lives in New York has to have their summer house in the Hamptons, or they're. They're upstate. Retreat called Xanadu so at this point deluxe and Are Strolling through their woods. One eight say romantically. Date Walk through the park type situation and the twins move at. Some cool matching twins stealth gear. What were they doing the whole time? Do you think there's no passage of time? Maybe this is mere hours after we saw them. Get that phone call. We don't fucking now. They're just waiting. A little picnic as this date is going very well, deluxe compliments Derek on his impressive flying last night, and the smoothly slips arm over Derek shoulder and I. Don't know if you noticed during this episode, but I could feel a cold breeze picks up and the to snuggle up for warmth, because they're outside and Derek field deluxe muscular chest through his jacket and I think I slipped in the writings slash vic. I'm GonNa need you to continue that I just. It was the most warmth. Derek had felt an A. longtime emotionally physically, Derek. We can find you love elsewhere. We promise in his pants, grew two sizes too small and the criterion. I don't know how to do this. Oh. It's so good. Thank you anyway. The twins attack and they start shooting. And, then a really really bright light appears, and they're blinded. is you are forgetting the fact that the twins shot a street lamp that was in the middle of the woods in upstate new. York Xanadu is retreat of or whatever it's deluxe can't be bothered to carry a flashlight when he wants to take romantic strolls his forest, so he has street lights installed in the woods in upstate. New York yes, Okie Doke, so you were saying something about the light because. The helicopter shows. That's what the light is yeah okay. Okay all right. I'm back on board, so we see a blinding light and we find that it is the gargoyles showing up in their helicopter. The twins are wearing night vision. And they're belying the fuck. It was hilarious God. They both freak out, and they're just like Oh and they rip off goggles and. A fight happens and. I like the one at the beginning of the episode. Better, but this is fine. Yeah, it's not great. It's weird to see Lexington shooting the rockets for once. You think that if he's busy, piloting, someone else would be rocketing well I. Just can't get over the fact that our heroes of the show are constantly trying to kill people. This wasn't a racket. It was looked like a rocket, but then ended up being Oh, it was a net the net. Thank you. It was like Kent is the right word, so he captures them extreme. Hang Glider that he shot up. Yes, yes, yes, okay I must have looked away because I didn't see the rocket. Get fired. That's on me and I apologize. WELL HE ANA takes off. She's not immediately caught. No, they slash out of their net. Their knives and they slept the night apart and then run away just a radio Yeah, it wasn't an electrified. Like they've been captured in multiple times already. They know they're available. There's probably going under the radio. Shack and pick one up. Ultimately, we we know what happens. The good guys win. The PAC is captured. Hold on, but during her the fight What Hyena is still kind of boring. She's just randomly shooting her off all over the place making the trees fall, and Brooklyn is going after her, and a tree trunk lands on him, and he again here's an inconsistency. What strength because he can't get up, we'll. Maybe he's all upper body and not like core. Maybe although you need that cord to balance out the everybody by like we've seen Brooklyn do stronger feats before whatever gotta week back. Develop muscles back there. That'd be the upper door somists in the U. Bula. Yes, it's boring, but it's part of my life. They get the twins, and we can get back to the real core this episode, the emotional struggle between two siblings, yes. I couldn't help but notice in this scene as dream boat and Derek discussing the goings on. There's another streetlamp, either that or the same streetlamp is working again. I don't know I was fascinated by these needless. Light sources out in the woods in the middle of the night. Why does need to be drawn in? It's very bizarre, but point being dream boat and Derek talking fighting the they're having a an animated discussion, and we learned Santos actually told Derek about the gargoyles. He tried to help them. He was trying to offer his support and they rejected him. He was spurned and it hurt his, so he built some robots Trinka them. DEAL, but he left part off hoops, so they're arguing a hand. Daddy Goliath gets angry again. He is like family's important you to. All of my siblings are dead. You should be lucky to have each other and they both like. Siblings aren't allowed to argue because other people have dead siblings. You can't do it. It's illegal I think. Way To make this whole thing about you. Glide is barely in this episode. Except to yell at People Stop Yelling Yeah. He's just angry. Dad and this is one hundred percent angry Dad Daddy. So. Dream Boat Sighs, the sigh of resignation immense. She's been a bit overbearing and Yaw. She's been obsessed with deluxe and Derek quote unquote working together. Darkness elite his own life and I'm like. Yeah, he's been telling you that for twenty two minutes now and so she hands off the recording device. You choose if you want to listen to it or not. I made you a mix tape to explain my feelings. And what's wild is we don't know how this turns out. And then it's just ends. We go to the clock tower. fucking ends as wild, and not in a good or interesting way in a stupid way. Remember what happens in the clock tower. That's how much does ending did nothing? Nothing happens at the clock tower. actually like the very last part. Is Brooklyn Broadway? Admit Lexington did a good job with the helicopter and Lexington's like hey, thanks guys when he should have been like a cookie I did I got a helicopter flying in four hours and made it better than before i. don't even know how to read. On that note should we take a little break, and then back and discuss our feelings, I mean I don't know what else I can give the people, but I'll try. To lower. The hunky hero, and a fantastic leading lady to be brought to life with love and loss cast, indulge in a radio drama, filled to the brim with romance laughs at all. Those wonderfully awkward moments comes with a new relationship and don't forget those delicious sexy parts that make Romance Novels Oso Fun to enjoy. Is available now at calamity cast dot, com, or anywhere that you can find podcast. Liz We're back. Yeah, we have just finished gargoyles season one episode twelve her brother's keeper. Now I think we've made it abundantly clear how he felt about this episode, but can I ask you question. Did you like the APP? No. I think of the twelve watches is by far the worst. You'RE GONNA. Agree with you, yeah, I hope next episode, which is the season finale doesn't get worse I guess I. Don't Know How cartoons do seasons compared to like. But typically the second to last episode is like the big dramatic. All the things are happening in the last episode is thinking modern TV though. This one is kind of a standalone episode. I mean you can expect episode six, but there wasn't anything that proceeded directly. In it's still made no. No and it was definitely i. feel like dream boats episodes anyone else, but it wasn't even like less learn more about dream about drought. Angry at what we learn about remote is that she can get obsessive to unhealthy level, so we learned about Dream Boat, and it's not anything right. It really paints her in a negative light. and of course she's vindicated in the end because we viewers know the character of deluxe, but. From like her brothers perspective, she is out a line. Yes, total all time and that's fucked up. But this episode Tatas at family's most important and don't know how they ended up. But there was a lot of family. Talk you know we. We have the twins. We had with remote siblings all the career brother talk. Yeah Goliath being angry that people aren't getting along. And how dare you have a fight with your siblings lawyer all this? Let them have their conversation right an MBA supportive part and sometimes. You need to have a little bit of fight in your conversation. If they were only fighting all the time, it'd like okay that unhealthy. Final Question Yeah are we over Michael Ribs one hundred percent over Michael reads and I literally cringe every time I see his name I hope they get more writers are end in season. Two and I'm sure what's the one you know? They tried to keep the crew small. They had only a couple of writers that weren't him. Right three other writers and you know we've only seen three or four directors, so I'm hoping they're going to expand the writer's room and take some of the writing deities. Michael reads. Do you think he thinks he was good at this? If you look at his credits, he wrote a lot of animated television. So this is his first GIG, all right. I have high hopes for these season finale, because I read the Little Blurb Disney, plus about what it is. Books, but hey, would you look at that? We finished another episode of defenders the night as always thank you to Ian McGowan for composing the interstitial music her throughout the show, check him out on Instagram and twitter at easy underscore breezy, underscore Mac and check out his band. The good deeds at good deed music dot band Camp Dot Com. If you WANNA talk, Gargoyles or your favorite sibling. Everyone's got one. Don't lie. Liz Thinking exactly which one of hers offended? I. Do have three. Use the Hashtag gargoyles on twitter where we're at the cast is at Zirkin eater and I am at underscored Ds. On instagram at Flynn Cast Network Liz L. Circle and I am again at underscored. Williams find us on facebook at clam cast. Email us at claim because network. 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Episode 213:  Stupid Code of Honor

Defenders Of The Night

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Episode 213: Stupid Code of Honor

"School. Defenders of the night the most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favourite mid-nineties animated program. Gargoyles. In your host Daniel Williams I am your other House Eliza Circle Liz Oh my God we're here we're not doing city is stone anymore is a new era of defenders of the night. Except for this is clearly city of stone part five, we're going to get into it today we're covering gargoyles season two episode thirteen high noon. Yeah. I was expecting cowboys. I was expecting Westerns did not get any of that? No not at all. Elizabeth. This episode aired September Twenty Fifth Nineteen Ninety five it was directed by Dennis J woodyard have we seen him before we have not it was written by Cary Bates do you remember cary? Bates I do buy your little handy note cary Bates wrote Episode Two oh six, the silver afoul clan. Now I just assumed that cary bates kind of had one lane. You know I don't know why because he's only written one episode that's not fair for me to judge but he proves to us that he can ruin other genres well. Did we like this Silver Falcon, the I remember that episode I just don't remember my feelings on it I feel like we both thought it was a decent. Yeah. It was fine. That's kind of felt about this one spoilers. Oh, I had to increase my font size in my notes because I couldn't yell loud enough with bold all caps. Oh Wow. There are a lot of caps holy shit. All right I'm excited. Listeners that was quite a preview and you know this is usually the place where we beg and plead for more five star ratings and reviews. So we're going to do that now. Yeah listeners. Enjoying the show and I don't know maybe even if you're not enjoying the show though while you're listening I, don't understand. But whatever please take the time to give us those bang and ratings and reviews we need hanging come on. Well. Now, with that out of the way I suppose we need to begin discussion of high new. Okay. So I think that it starts off pretty poorly we start in the D. Cue brain scape you remember the old Deke Brands Gape, right? Yeah. The main palace coup in four. Loko. are just been little snugly romantic motherfuckers. This is true until earring gargoyles shows up to be a DICKHEAD. I. Like how immediately says nothing come between us now and then scary earing guy is just like Ma- ear. And he doesn't say anything no. Apparently, they did something that he can't actually touch with them anymore. Oh, is that your read on it because I was just like why? Why can't t come between you now? He's they're being annoying. Yeah. He's like a fly the you can't get rid of for sure Boston around like a Dick okay. And that's that scene. He just he's like Nah I'm here go away. He's like, no. Hearing. Anyway yes. Okay we. Leave there and go to the clock tower where Lexington's just sticking around with de Cue's little computer. Yeah. It's one of those slow beginnings of an episode everybody's hanging out like you said Lexus hacking the I don't know at Broadway they're reading the newspaper together it's really fucking They're reading to each other. It's very sweet. Broadway gets stuck on the word, right? Okay. There's a couple constant clusters in there that I could see like being confused about. What Liz you go at your own pace okay. Well everyone's Chillan. Dream Boat shows up. She's so sue epee okay. I got a little annoyed with this. She just kept fucking yawning and Yanni and being like arm tired I'm like, okay. Go to bed. Dude. League. Why did you come up? Here is a long way to come. You don't have to go see them every time they're awake. Well, you know what? She brought some books for Lexington because he studying computer viruses because he's trying his damnedest to get dijk you up and running again I've got clip because it really describes how I feel these days the virus that attack Colston wiped his programming clean nothing's broken but nothing's working either. It's a blank slate even the virus gone ever feel like that is. Just like the model for twenty. Twenty. Yeah. So I thought it was weird that lex said he wasn't detecting anything going on in D.C brain because we just saw inside the brain scape like something's happening why can't he detect that? Well, it's says something about magic I guess the magic is working but the computer stuff isn't Really Lazy explanation. There are a few really lazy explanations in this episode but. I guess if that's how we're going to get through to the next scene share. Fine. Okay. Yeah. I also thought it was weird that lex thinks that he can build an os like he's a computer programmer now. Mod like Olympic system what would we do? What are we saying about Lexington here? It's always so convenient how he happened magically no. Whatever system it is that he suddenly needs. Maybe that's it Liz. You just explained it without even realizing it's magic. It's magic that he knows technology. Yeah. I'm we got two guys over here. They can barely read Lexington knows how to program computers now, right? Okay. So. Everyone's feeling sweep because the sun's about to come up. So Dream Boat She's like I gotTa head home I'm GonNA catch some Z's no she what she say I'm GonNa hit the hey, hit the yeah. I think she says hit the Hay and Hudson has feelings about that. I still don't understand colloquialisms. We don't have those in my native tongue. Oh English like. The. Dudes they all go outside and here's something that it's taken me like fifteen or so episodes to think about but. Why don't they stay inside the clock tower? This building isn't used to having gargoyles so it wouldn't be a shock to Nazi gargoyles up there. and. Wouldn't it be safer if they were hidden away inside the building delay time you think I'm way too late to be making this revelation because they've been living here for quite some time. But when it hit me yesterday when I was watching this what the Goddamn in what the fuck I was really mad about. It's not safe out there guys. They're just worried for their wellbeing I. Am I mean, I. Don't know how tall building is. It's definitely not as tall as Santos Tower, which was also weird that they were doing all their poses up there I think that was more than just used to it right? Like that's how they live in that castle. That's fair. That's totally fair but you, Gotta Figure it's a couple hundred feet from the top of the clock tower to the ground below no one can even really see them right right. I don't know man I got really hung up on it I. Mean You could see in my notes that was all caps I'm like no go inside. It's dangerous out there I. Think you were just in a mood when you were watching this. All right. So they're doing their cool poses they turn to stone whatever we get it. Liz Down Below street level dream boat comes outside she starts chatting up with officer. Morgan. You know officer he's our human stand in for Goliath. Yeah. They're talking about how tired she is. She needs to go home and get some sweep. And then a rookie cop walks by a very suspicious looking rookie cop something about her seems familiar. Did you pick up right away who it was? Oh identified but I don't think I was looking at her as much as I don't even know what I was paid attention to the screen by saw suspicious woman maybe Fox is back she's alive and safe. That would have been a good guests. Yeah. I didn't clock who the PERP was that she was walking in immediately. Yeah, which. SEEN HIS BELT I should've I didn't notice any of that. He was just huge. Dude. So this rookie cop that we don't know we don't know who she is red hair red had. Yeah. She's walking in a big old perp with his hands cuffed in front and Dream Boat decides to go inside instead of going home she goes inside to scold this new. York. Morgan is the one who is like I can tell you the Newbie. You would never have someone that big with his hands in front of him like that and and that's Fine I guess I'll go tell her no one was suggesting that dream boat go home. And instead of just like shouting, Hey, I rock Kamera second dream boat silently follows this rookie cop like two or three flights of stairs never ever tries to get her attention right and eventually this rookie cop leads to the fucking clock tower. Now list of course that can't be good. Now, I've been waiting for some officer just to wander up there at some point, right? Because it's just upstairs there's just a stairwell. Like. Oh, fuck. So she draws her weapon heads up in his immediately grabbed by big Mac big Mac. Are You fucking kidding me? We spent so much time with big. Mac I need a fucking break from this guy especially when he became such a coward got real mad little fucking diaper cry boy that's an insult. Right? Everyone uses that term. But Yeah it's Human Dimona which I have to say I've been waiting since puck changed her for us to actually see her be Human Dimona. Yeah. That's a little bit of a trip that it's taken this long to get anymore that. Yeah. So when I saw that I got excited like Oh great we finally get Human Dimona we can just see how this works. Yeah. Although you know they don't actually give us that reveal until they're in big Majette right I'm really worried about dream boat here because big MAC grabs her in over his shoulder throws her across the room into a brick wall and she's knocked out cold. That's really dangerous. We've said it before in this show that can cause traumatic brain injury for sure. Just a couple minutes of being knocked unconscious and we find out later that she was knocked out for the majority of the day we're talking ten plus hours that Oh boy she needs to immediately go to a hospital, but she doesn't. Like, Oh, thanks for that. NAP. We're jumping ahead but then you just goes to rest like no, don't go back. Think you probably have a concussion girl. So anyway, we're on the big MAC MC chat. Yeah Liz. I don't know where the came from but Dimona and big MAC escape on this jet. Why didn't they fly to the clock tower instead checked out now why did any of the previous scene have to happen just could see Human Dimona I guess they could have done it. I know. Liz Yes. I figured we would be done with these two characters for awhile. You know give us a break from both of them. But they're working together after that huge blow up right and just last week's episode man. Yeah how'd you feel about that? I quite honestly didn't even question it until a little bit later. LEXI was like there's no way that those would be working together. Yeah. They really should it be working together Whoa why did it take you so? It was sleepy. Okay. I was like, no no. Give me a new villain. We need someone new at this point you know what? That's episode actually kind of made me Mr Luxe Deluxe villain anymore either I don't either I want to see his redemption. Yeah. At least some goofy like butting of heads you know yeah. Okay. These are who were stuck with for this episode. Human, Dimona big Mac they're working together I guess they escape the Weird Sisters Great. Glad, they could Perry the hatchet, for reason. So delmonico's bitching and moaning that she think it goes smash smash on the Gargoyles and Macbeth is like no because that is not an honorable way to win and that was like cool. New Big Mac that's at least good like you've shown you're cowardly side before that I feel like at certain point he might have been the one that just goes smash smash. Yeah. Except for like his moral code is so weird it has weird like it's so all over the planes. All over the place you're right. He's like I will run away from a fight and I will also I don't kill people behind their backs which. That's a good thing running away from a fight. I guess it seems wrong for Macbeth but not fighting person under normal circumstances I think is a good idea overall. It just doesn't make sense for Macbeth yeah. So they got what they came for. What did they come for? We don't know yet. Yeah wait so long. So, we go back to the clock tower. The Sun is setting as we mentioned previously trombone is just waking up. That's not good. No, she's going to have trouble later on in life but at this point, she's like Oh wow that was a great nap. I, feel so much better now. NAPPING, girl you're conscious. You are brain damage. You have traumatic brain injury for sure. So, she's running around she to make sure all of the browser accounted for and they are everything's fine. Don't know what big MAC in this red headed lady were therefore, but I'll fuck de cues missing Yup. We don't get that reveal from the villains I. don't like that I. Mean I guess. Seeing their dramatic reaction to it is one thing you feel like it probably would have made more sense for a dramatic reveal from big Mac I think so too. But I when you say like that I guess I can see it both ways. Erin. especially. Goliath going to be all like my brother. Stole her. Dream Boat is for some reason feeling Kinda Sweetie from having her brain knocked out of her skull. So she just sits down takes a little break. He's like. My Faculties are dishonoring mixed up in Whibley. She's pulling a little bit of deluxe in this episode she talks to herself a lot. Yeah. Well, that's because it would be weird to see a cartoon character runaround not saying anything like I get it. It makes sense why that happens like as an adult it still feels ridiculous to watch someone do for sure but I think it like as a character I think it works better with deluxe. Yeah. Because he's one for just talking he's a talker and usually got someone that is paid to listen right and he I think he just likes the sound of his voice now to be fair I do too because these voice by be beautiful Jonathan frakes. That has that is fair. So we are moving over to castle McDonald land because not all of this castle was destroyed win Broadway was held prison when it caught on fire. Yeah. So just part of this was exploded I was wondering, do you think Dimona Mrs Turning to stone because that was supposed to be regenerative for the Gargoyles? During about that too not in this episode specifically. But when it happened initially because does she just never get to sleep ever she just ongoing nonstop I. Guess She could sleep as a human like maybe she really is into you know big fluffy mattresses and comfort. Blankets and stuff she's like Oh shit this is awesome I do all my sleeping is a human maybe fucking pillow is so soft. I could see her being the type that would get into that like she's a real hard ask most of the time, but she is a sucker for a big poofy pillow. Anyway I don't know how we never find out where but somehow these two doing Scott their hands on a disk to stuff up in old poor de Q.. And Big Mac, he wants to put it in now. Oh, God he just wants to ram it in there but Dimona she's Hey hey come on. Let's take it slow I. WanNa see the Sun set i. Take it easy before you stick that. She went a little foreplay I. Yeah. She's like I just let's see how the Sun looks going down. Donoso. So romantic against me in the mood. I want you to stick it in when I got big old wings pop autumn aback. Not to be fair, she does actually have a good point here she says that. Will Not recognize big MAC like he doesn't know who big MAC is and he definitely would have recognized Dimona as a human and would just freak him out. So make sense that she's like, okay I need to be in my google form for us to work. That is true although what I think will be funny is if he did recognize her in her human form but that really fucked up even more he's like I know who you are. Why do you look like that? What is going on here like I don't know I think that'd be fun to just really fun with Dick you might be fun but I'm a mean person so well yeah. So the sun goes down Dimona gets her way. Yes. She starts her gargoyles transformation and here is where we learn that. The big Mac to Mona connection is totally a thing. Yes. So my question for you and for the audience and for all the gargoyles creators is what the fuck was the whole city stone many series even for then what did that accomplish because I feel like it did nothing it didn't break them of their bond. It didn't help them grow in any way shape or form. Why did we tell? That story I don't know I, think some of the history was really interesting, but they could have done the interesting things in like one or two episodes and explained. This is how they have been connected with each other through the years and then we have this episode look they're still connected. They could have easily Citius, Joan in half I. Agree One hundred percent Liz because that series of episodes started us at a point a and we didn't grow it in change. We learn nothing like point like a and a half. We pretty much stayed exactly where we started as far as character development and that is. Bullshit because those are two big characters that should be showing development episode after episode. But especially, with Dimona I care for her less and less because she doesn't change she's a character that is stuck in say stone ha it gets boring. It gets boring to see the characters never grow. I agree. Even goliath called her out on that I. Don't remember which episode was at some point the season he was like you're literally never going to change are. You and they? No I think that was just last week's episode. Yeah. I mean, fuck even something as small as learning to read. We have characters that were illiterate that are actually like working towards improving themselves. Yeah. We're seeing it happen. You know deluxe got married. He is maybe surface level. He seems to be changing and growing as a person to Mona's like faulk everyone on never change I want to stay here she's like Peter Pan, but for anger. Up She. She's a rage Peter. Pan. Alright well. I don't know man they both go through the change. Yeah. So you know she's changing it's hurting him and he's been a little baby about it. I'm sure it is painful but like dude, you're practically crying like he's like bent over and being like Oh God. Why hurt so bad. So much I hate this. Over it dude would have been hilarious as her tail was growing out. He grabs you no. Bonds. Feels like you're renting a new asshole and. Gargoyles jokes man get them like I. Get Them I. Get jokes. All the joke Oh. Yeah. Dimona. Gargoyles now, and we can stick that big old floppy disk in em. Yum. Yum. Yum. To floppy disks like him floppy Yep. Okay. Once inserted the disc creates a large yellow butthole in the brains Cape. A gaping maw of finger. Yes and brain scape D Q in Four Loko are staring into the abyss. They're like Oh. That's weird. What is this bill butthole that just grew out of the sky earring gargoyles says I don't give a fuck and he just flies right into it. He doesn't know what's going to happen. That's the great unknown my man, what are you doing? Yeah and four Loko is like should do that too and dickey's like Nah don't get here. Fuck. Guy. opie never comes back. Because like. What if it's a bad thing that he did no borough screw that guy. Okay Q to shirking responsibility here. He just wants to his lady love. He doesn't give a fuck about anything else yeah. I'm of two minds because I feel that way a lot too but. That guy is evil. There's a lot of D. being like, no, I don't want to be a good guy. I don't WANNA help I. Don't like it. You know it frustrates me because once upon a time I, really liked de Q. and maybe it will get to see him grow more later. But like we had got episode both loved when it was like captain, America and Bucky and I was like, can I buy Bucky back Please is I hope that this isn't the last that we see of De Q. and I say that every time he shows up because I really do like the character but now he needs another redemption like needs a second redemption because brain scape diku acts against the character that we know him to be. Yes and I'm tired of seeing characters do that was just saying that about big MAC and now we see Doing it in his brain scape. It's upsetting it is upsetting so Aaron Guy goes through the Butthole and Suddenly. D Q in the real world goes back online. Oh, good except it's not our Q.. He's being controlled by the dickhead because he has the three souls in him and the mean one is the one who's controlling him. Now that was a portal to consciousness Yup the mid nineties and their understanding of technology is hilarious and I know they're you know they're trying to like visualize it here. But why does a functioning os equal yellow space butthole in the creators of this shows mind like what I plugged in a floppy disk and it's a portal in his brain yeah. Okay. I got nothing to say to that. So I think we're going to go to a break. I need to recalibrate my inner space but hall. Get, Back Online In the year twenty, one, hundred years cybernetic enhance population threatened to tear down everything America held dear, free speech drive-thru liquor stores, and guns so many guns. After much deliberation it was decided that if America, and it's superior values to survive the coming robot lives, there was only one option. Get the fuck up. The next hundred years. So the construction of Space Mirror galaxies newest and a star. If you value adventure good times, Cyborg fistfights find your place in Space Merica. Space Mira No CYBORGS, Nita mine subscribed to space America on apple podcast Google podcast Stitcher, or checkout calamity casts dot com welcome back everyone two defenders of the night I'm your host Daniel Williams. I'm here with my co host lizards when we're talking about gargoyles season two episode thirteen, high noon those a new thing I was trying. It's like. You're watching a TV show and in case someone's tuning in mid episode, they know what's happening right? Because that's how podcasts work. You just come in whenever you feel like. You know. It will probably be the last time I do that but I'm not gonNA cut any of this out. Yeah. So It's just a little inside to our process listeners. We're at the clock tower now. Liz. So the Gargoyles all wake up and Goliath is like how did mic Mac get away from the weird sisters? Assume, it's because they're assholes neighbors You're you're free go had I noticed at this point. That's the first time in a long time that we've seen all the gargoyles together. Yeah and when they leave to go scope shit out, they all go together, which is very unusual to have them all fighting as a group right and like it do you know Liz that the weird sisters know what the fuck big MACs up to they see it happening there the fates right why are they letting this happen I thought they were supposed to be keeping big MAC and Dimona in check. This episode makes me even more confused about the Weird Sisters Yeah Anyway. Yeah glaive isn't going to sit around with his tail and his hand while big Mac rubs his dick all up on d Q. So as you mentioned all six Bros. no one is staying behind to guard the tower all six they're going to go pay big. Mac. A visit. It's time to him where it hurts his sore. Kale but. Even Bring Brown they. Do they mean business when you bring Bronx you're playing for keeps dream about really really wants to go but she's still Super Shweibi weepy and she has to go to work in thirty minutes. Do Cop stuff you know I mean typically I wouldn't even fucking care about my job but I don't know I. Guess in this episode I do any other time she'd be like, yeah, I'm GonNa. Go with you fuck work and Goliath is all like we'll protect ourselves UGO protect the city. All right. I mean, they don't spoilers they fuck up. We'll get to go back to Castle McDonald. Lan. Lexington once again has his flawless tech skills and can bypass the security system. Yeah. You know what I liked here Liz Broadway is complementing lexus skills. Yeah. It was sweet. It never happens. It really doesn't usually Broadway or Brooklyn has some shit to talk about you know Lexus nerdy abilities but the positive reinforcement is going to do nothing but good things. Yeah. Titans them as a group it does but lex like, yeah thanks. But that was too easy not in a good way like I am very suspicious about what's going on right now. Yeah. I hit random buttons I did not. Know what I was doing. So keep your head on a swivel shore. So everyone splits up, they're going to go looking for big Mac Bronx and Brooklyn. Broadway and Hudson and lex in. Goliath they head to the Security Systems Control Room Yeah and we've seen that plenty of times before 'cause big Mac loves nothing more just sit in a tiny space watching two dozen television screens at once he have cameras all over the city or is he just washing his empty castle because what they show us when they're in there is screens of his castle in different rooms in the castle. Like typically just that they're keeping an eye on his castle and not living a life. Well, he does have a bunch of cameras in his castle in one of the city of stone episodes. He was also shown watching Dimona elsewhere, right? Yeah. So he must have hidden cameras everywhere what a creepy purview. He's definitely got some under the toilet seat cameras somewhere in New York City he's a creep. Showing your dirty side, you know man you gotta get consent for that kind of thing. Yeah. All right two things here Liz when they're walking in the building. Why is lex walking around on all fours does he normally do that I? Don't know I I think we've commented on it before but like it was a lot this time, it wasn't like Oh while he was writing quickly like I'm just being a weird cat looked extra weird putting him next to Bronx Bronx can't help but walk on all fours if I was bronx at look over me like, are you mocking me? Walk. Upright Sir and then at this point, he's what Goliath is huge. So just makes lex look even Tinier. Yeah. All right. Second thing when Lexington and Goliath find the control room, the door slams open and they've got these faces like Bra. We're GONNA. Spooky. There's no one in here. Heiress it. Showing they got their glowing is bull or scary march. Oh Shit. Okay and. They're like, oh, no one was around to see that. They really do they just deflate immediately when they come. We look really do Lexington will look really scary. Yeah. Go really school we were taught school and see. Just some thoughts I had. The room is empty. Yeah and since no one's in their lex takes it upon himself to surf through the various security cameras to try and locate big Mac. Right. But instead finds d Q. Let me play a little clip here. It's cousy. Still. We have no choice Goliath. Wait. Macbeth's gotten him operational again but there's no way of knowing which cold stones three personalities is in control just remember. One of them hates your guts. Just have to be there careful now. The reason I wanted to play that clip is because it ends with glass just fucking punching a hole through a control panel on the console and I wasn't quite sure. Why is it? Because he's angry he doesn't normally lose his temper like that Homolka se purposely just trying to destroy big. Mac Shit just because he can back can't use it against them or is he just like? I'm angry Hulk Smash Goliath Blah I think he just couldn't find the off button. Because they pull back. They do a line shot and there are other screens that are still on. Yeah. So it didn't shut everything. Well. Elsewhere in the Castle Bronx and Brooklyn are scoping shout and Bronx smells a familiar smell a smell he is encountered just a couple episodes ago they slowly open a door to find a cause. With dogs most ancient fo, the vacuum cleaner. What if what if it was just that he was like, oh, those things well, any thing like he's still sniffing around and he's still obviously he's on a scent. Haven't we learned when Bronx does get don't fuck around like pay attention to what he's doing. Oh wrongs stop that we haven't learned that is clearly. Because Bronx goes into this closet and he's sniffing around and was like something's in here what the Fuck Brooklyn is like a closet and he shuts the light off and he just walks away. Yeah. He doesn't even examine the clause. She's like he doesn't even go inside to double check, and this is when we get the replay of the gag from the end of city of Stone par-three. Dimona just appears out of nowhere from behind a secret wall a secret wall is closet. Liz, why would there be a secret wall in a closet? It's furrow secret sex for all the secret brooms and my secret broom closet I fucking rolled my eyes. So hard I thought they were GONNA fall out of my head. And then you know what Brooklyn gets what he deserves because Dimona beats the shit out of him is just brutal and like I feel like Brooklyn more than most of the other rogue oils has like his beef with Dimona. Yeah. That's like I'm on dude be a little smarter than this and you deserve to have your ass kicked. Yeah. This was perfect. If anybody should have gotten, there s beat by Dimona right here Brooklyn. Deserved it more than anyone just because you know he's still caring and Hate Boehner So she's flinging him around and smashing them in walls and she throws one of into the fireplace and well, let's go see what the last two dudes are up to instead of staying with this. So we go to a library, of course, broadway and Hudson walk into the library. I have to say that that was a beautiful library Liz. These two are the perfect to walk into a library and they are just inam. `red. You know we were talking about character growth. They are Namur. d- Let me play this clip because Broadway to sounds like the sweetest little boy and someone fucking ruins it who Wow. Wow blow big. Mac like come on now. I almost wish I would have been like. Well we can't do now. Let me prove it to you sit down buddy. Pulls out the newspaper News starts reading is like. Fuck you man also, how does he know they can read I'm sure there were some connection to the river and time episode or whatever the fuck it was called maybe Broadway gave it away when they're talking about the scrolls and stuff when he's chained up in the mid jet maybe anyway as a Dick thing to say they've been working really hard and you're a fucking punk cowards. So shut up also they beat your ass in the scene dude a deal which is lovely. It's fight because he gets he gets jumped up pretty bad. He had jumped up your punk that's probably a phrase I don't know. Yeah so like they like smash him off the ladder. Falls like seventy five feet and smashes into the ground. How tall are those? Big Ass. Room. It was a huge room luckily Broadway though smashing his ladder does land on a well-placed. So that's convenient. Yeah he's okay. Big. Mac. On the other hand has broken every bone in his body right? Because he can't die but he can be incapacitated, which is a fun thing to know I mean that's good to know for sure. So big MAC knocked his noggin that means Dimona also gets a good Noggin knockin thinking about that really makes me think what the fuck was big Mac doing anytime the damone has been in fights for the last two seasons when he hasn't been around just like sitting around in his control panel washing people's only being like. Maybe that's why he has cameras everywhere. So he knows what the fuck US doing. So he can prepare for all the pain I was wondering does it have anything to do with proximity? Is it because they're so close to each other right now maybe like one's and Scotland and one's in America do they still feel it? Yeah, right. That's kind of how I was reading that connection because that'd be really annoying especially with like eight hour time difference between the countries like dude stop gain and fights when I'm in bed. I, mean, I guess our bad guys are caught Liz and then we moved to this weird dungeon area. Yes. So goliath and Lex Goto were D. Q. is chained up and we know it's the bad soul that is controlling him right now. So the fact that he's being all stay back, it's a trap big mix GonNa get you to us as immediately suspicious I. think it's a little suspicious to them too. But I think they still have the benefit of the doubt for Q. Yeah. I mean they don't know that they shouldn't and right on cue Hudson and Broadway walk in with big Mac and like. We're fine. They just like slammed into the ground that's I mean you're just making things worse. Like you gotta worry about Dimona man and Lexus P- you dumb idiot. Those two would never be caught working together. Right some of your circuits must be crossed like don't you don't know the full situation dude right and if he says there's a Dimona they're he probably knows because he who was stolen. And that is when Brooklyn and Bronx like they are they working together yeah. Shut up lex man he don't know everything. So to add to Lexus list of bad decisions one talking onto Diku. He immediately starts to free him because I mean, it seems like the right personality is in control and there's no way we could like maybe even try to run some computer diagnostics or anything, Mr Hacker, man Mr computer programmer like maybe we should check it out I. Know we're just GonNa unchain him find. Cool. Great Right. It's so frustrating where in one episode they managed to write him as the smartest character in the room and then the. Character in the room yeah. Well, is guess what we were right and he was wrong. It was the bad soul and DU. Shoots, lasers atom and kills them. All I think is what happens I don't know. I blacked out. That's what happened. Right I mean the leases isn't too far off the brisket electrocuted. I forgot that big cad, the electric powered stuff in his dungeon. He's got all kinds of fun toys. So I guess what really happens is the deke walks over to Dimona and big Mac and he's like I'm GonNa kill these guys and glass like yeah go for it. and. Pick them up flies up in the air a little bit and they were faking it the whole time. Really there were faking their head injuries doesn't make any sense because they dig it brain right like big Mac fell from a great height. Yeah. But now let's just like. Got You. Yeah. Hustle Zapper Button Zab in ABS ET zips apt to ad. Breaks. Thanks for listening help others find our show by rating and reviewing tunes checkout calamity cast dot com for even more content and follow us on facebook twitter and Instagram to get in touch and let us know how we're doing. If you like what you hear and you want to help keep the lights on considered becoming a regular calamity casts contributor on Patriot bore. If you'd like to make a one time donation, you can do so at pay pal dot me slash clammy casts we appreciate your support and your donations truly make a difference. Where are we? Liz we are indeed a brain scape. TIKI is still kind of like. Smash it's happening. 'cause airing gargoyles is being a dick again, and four loco is like it's our job to like help protect things were gargoyles shouldn't we see what's happening on Nah I? Just WanNa stay here with you babe but she doesn't want you man this really frustrated me I mean this whole episode really frustrated me but this part where she's like we should do that and I'm like four Loko let's go have autonomy yet just go do it. You be in charge of d Q. Yeah and he could either then decide he wants to follow you because he loves you or ago substrate here by myself no. I'll just stay you'll come back to me won't you girl I wouldn't and be like now I'm in charge look at this robot. But I guess as a woman, she doesn't have that kind of autonomy. So she'll just try and coax the widow Piss baby up to be in charge of the Q. Body. From there we jumped to the clock tower. Dream Boat is just pacing around. Lake when her concussion adult brain is just wanting to shut down. Yeah. She's like, Oh, where are my teenagers? They are late she's walking around like an overbearing mother. Just like take a nap till, they got back I don't know why this episode is treating its female characters. This way what is cary bates have against the female characters the show. We've got mommy four Loko in the brain scape. Now we have Mommy Dream Boat in the clock tower like let these women be the fucking bad s is that they are go about their business maybe he has mommy issues. Maybe. So Liz we are sixteen minutes into the episode. It's a twenty two minute episode where we finally I think get the plot I, think. Yeah. As the sun slowly approaches to Mona, flies into pick on dream bow she's just here to fuck with her and dreams like, oh It's you what are you GonNa do with some of sunset you're gonNA turn to stone at me. and. fucking human now motherfucker. Goes and does her daytime transformation yeah. She's like, Oh, I don't need wings I. Don't need spiky elbows whatever those are for. You know what? Therefore she turns into a human, but I don't know if you notice she's smaller as a human than she is as a gargoyles but her clothes fit the same. Great. She's kind of sexy sexy lady right calm down. She has you know unrealistic waistline Scher but she has incredible hulk clothes. Right she's got like the incredible hulk pants where they just kind of grow to fifth man whatever it takes. Okay. This bit here we are hit with just a ton of information. So I wanNA play this kind of long clip and I want to kind of work through it afterwards. Okay. If you're human than your subject to human laws. You're under arrest. You have the right to remain silent. If I remain silent, you'll never see your precious goliath again. whereas. Before. I destroy Goliath I want to prove to him once and for all what you humans are really like our Goliath and the others to Belvedere Castle in Central Park high noon. If you show up you still won't save them it will certainly cost you your life but if you don't show Goliath, we'll see what human loyalty is really worth either way. I win. Okay Liz first of all it really really upset me to watch dream boat pull a gun on human. Dimona say you're subject to human laws Dimona has broken no laws but dream wants to arrest this person for literally no reason granted that was always fucked up but through our current social ends that felt really really unnerving was really really aggressive and I didn't like it 'cause like she does draw her weapon often by it's normally I'm going into an unknown situation in my weapons drawn just in case it's very seldom that she actually like whips it out and just points at someone like Dimona isn't actually doing anything here. No, she's committed no crimes perhaps if you look at all the crimes that Dimona has done through her time of knowing Dream Boat I, guess, that's what she's getting at. But yeah, it was uncomfortable. Yeah. It was pretty fucked up. You're not supposed to be able to pull your gun whenever you want to. Yeah I think based on how rules and laws should be right. But here she is just whipping that big old gun out how wink all right next Liz I wanNA talk about Dimona 's plan. First of all, how did they move those Gargoyles to the park? How did Human Dimona or maybe was Gargle Dimona but still and big Mac get six Gargoyles to central park. I would say he like airlifted them using his spaceship thing they're like in the dungeon of his castle. Big Mac is real big maybe strong enough to carry a goal I. Maybe they just hired those Goggle goons. Shitty movers you know shitty mover Goggle goons. That's the company that they started I don't know if you knew that yes I know that such a small detail, but it seems so vital to to Mona's plans that it's ridiculous that we didn't even do a quick cut away to putting Bronx Dali or something Yeah Okay Liz next point if dream shows up Damone is going to kill her and the gargoyles. Okay. Sure. Right. That's Dimona loves the idea of killing these people that she never actually kills whatever. Okay. If Dream Boat doesn't show up Dimona still gonNA kill the Gargoyles. Right. Right. How is this supposed to prove to Goliath? Human Loyalty is worth. 'cause he'll be Ted right like he's GonNa. Be Dead regardless I guess it's like His last thoughts but like he's in stone form when she goes there. So he's not gonNA. Know She's there whether she say or not right and if he wakes up and Damone is like assay, she never came for you. Now, I'm going to kill you what lesson is learning. He doesn't have to live with that fact because you kill him or you're lying and you never told her to come like your sentiment is meaningless you can't be trusted. Dimona. Right. What about the idea? Of gargoyles loyalty. Does that mean nothing to Goliath perhaps in does that mean nothing to you Dimona like like I'm sure Goliath places value on loyalty in general be it from humans or Gargoyles and to know that there's one gargoyles out there that wants to kill him and that theoretically could and ultimately doesn't. But does that aspect of how he feels me nothing to Dimona, like it's fucking crazy. Yeah. None of this plan makes any sense to Mona just wants to make Goliath feel. Like. It's fucking petty. Oh. Yeah. I. Mean Dimona as a character is incredibly petty all the time maybe it's just me but it's boring it's frustrating. It's like agree agree I'm really sick of it. I've been saying this for a long time like they have Dimona as such a two dimensional character where she could be so much more. Yeah. It mean boring is the word. I. Keep coming back to like young. Yeah. Again, like the whole story arc of city a stone like we could have gotten more dimensions from her if they'd given her an actual character growth better or for worse like if we see her Go, even deeper into lake insanity or something that would be more interesting than just the same old same old same old. Yeah. I mean, we're twenty six episodes into gargoyles. Yeah and she's the same character now that she was when we first met her in the present time. I like that this is where your font went from eleven. Oh yes. You are in all caps to eighteen folded in all caps. Well I don't know if you could tell this episode is making me upset. Liz I'm just I want to move on her plan is dumb. Her sentiment is dumb demolished like spins on her heel skips down the stairs in her human form, which means she's wearing a loincloth and a one sleeved belly shirt barefoot. She just walks out the front door and then calls a cab. She hailed a cab. Yeah and no one stopped her. Yeah. Liz nobody stopped her because why would you I don't know it's weird. is where does Dimona keep her wallet? How she gonNA pay for that cab ride? He keeps in her Bra I didn't see it. That's a pretty tight top. Gosh. She just keeps it like a in between the cleavage. Okay. All right. You know what else is really weird about the scene Liz dream boat again, just silently follows Dimona from the clock tower to the street like reverse of that earlier scene she doesn't ever say anything to her we see her walk behind Dimona through the clock tower. She's never like, Hey, stop get back here Dimona walks out the front door dream mode again is never like stopped trying to hail the cab. More of a conversation with you about this, just quietly through the whole building nothing dream. Buddhist. So fucking off does entire episode. Yeah. Like I don't know what the fuck is happening with her Liz. That's a great segue. Let me play this clip because dream again runs into officer Morgan and she has a revelation here that I think we should listen to. Yes, you sleep. Only a few hours in the last forty well shifts over climb into bed and pull it in after you. You don't know how much I'd like to when I woke up it would be over for me. More monsters. Good or bad. Just normal life. I had issues with this because like I understand you're like I didn't ask for this life I am tired I need a break from all this but the fact that she talks about no more monsters whether good or bad. Yeah. No fucking monster you love him, Yuck bad language in love your little girls. Yeah. That was weird or is that how she really feels like you know the next fifty episodes that we see are going to be her kind of feeling resentful I. Wonder how? That would be weird especially since that's a long time to watch someone just silently STU. Growth I hate it. Well from here we go to that spot in Central Park Belvedere Castle it's high noon Dimona in her human form big Mac and D Q who is not freaked out by Dimona in her human form. Great. They're all just hanging out in the middle of the park in the middle of the day as people are just walking by and d q asks what I felt was a very pointed question. Johan nobody sees us what the fuck is going on and Liz instead of answering the question. That big MAC and by extension, the writer of the episode is just like Ju don't worry about it. What's important is that they don't see us I'm not even going to make up a dumb cartoon reason as to why right a noxious lazy your job is to write this shit right? This shit dude especially doesn't we do explanation later. So why did they tell us now I can only assume that it's because big Mac at the time doesn't know why like later on he has an explanation, there's a very specific reason why he's given an explanation and here he's just A your guess is as good as mine man bright. Shut up shut up. You Cyber Oil you shut up. As my long way of saying. shitty writing yet bad from their lizzy. De Cue's brain scape diku still has no interest in dealing with whatever's going on in the real world. But because for Loco, she just can't handle a man's work if you will. She has to grab onto poor widow de cousy and his a Komo boy. We gotta convince him to act like oil and do your job. I. Feel like a lot of this episode just just backing job your job. Did you happen to see four? Loko turn into the weird sisters or did I imagine that there was three of her and he tried to different hair color I didn't know what the fuck was happening there and analysis like whatever and I. I wasn't sure because usually when the weird sisters show up, they have the weird sister voices. Yeah. But for LOCO triplets stayed for locos voice the whole time. That's the only reason I could see why she suddenly became three. Yeah. Why else would that possibly happen his? I don't know. That's why I'm asking you, I don't know. Back. Out in the real world, Dream Boat shows up as she should and she strolls right on past these guys to caress her man. She's like, Oh, come here stone Gog Man of my dreams. Now is it because she didn't see them or she just didn't care enough she's like these fucking assholes. Let me go check on Goliath I don't know because then suddenly she can't see them because she in Dimona ended up fighting. So I don't know if Dimona has control over that. If Dream Boat was just like blinders on have to make sure they're OK before I deal with you fuckers I wasn't sure which one it was because like you said, they get into a fight but first Dimona this fucking coward she just throws a rocket launcher on her shoulder. She's got a point blank fire rocket Dream Boat Yeah. Maybe feet away. How could she think this is safe for anybody you know as much as big Mac has been a coward in the past I do appreciate the fact that he keeps stopping. Dimona from taking the easy way out of Shit like this, he's straight up next year is like what you don't think you could fighter hand to hand yeah. He had to see a good old girl fight. We see him in D.C, you just kind of watch. These liling. Girls Yeah. So glad I'm recording this for later. dicky's red is starts blinking like a record light like got it. And Beg MACs just like us you're gonNA email that to me, right? He's like Oh. Yeah. I got two big boy. I, need a copy. They're gonNA watch it on all my monitors. Okay. So Dream Boat and Dimona, they get they they throw down and Dimona gets tossed around like a fucking rookie cop does like a cool like roll over the shoulders flippant thrown and Dimona I guess it turns out has relied on gargoyles strength and size and doesn't really have good combat skills. No not at all interesting. Yeah. Dream Boat announces like Hey. I'm unarmed win the big rocket is pointed at her Oh. Yeah, and so that's why I was like I guess she does see her and most like I don't care. If. You knew you were coming to something in where Dimona and company we're going to be why did you choose now to not have your gun? Yeah that's a really good question. She is all about pulling her gun out a little metal. Dick. She likes waving that thing around. Wow folder you're so vulgar day I don't know why it's just today. Liz. We moved back into DIJK CUE's brain scape. But as we do I don't know if you saw this, maybe it was just made but this big Mac half a little bit of a half Chubb. Girl fighting. I I yes. I. Believe. So but I did that actually look at that at all and I'm going to have to this part of the episode. Maybe, it's just how he's drawn normally and I've never noticed his package before. But I'm like, what are we sneaking in here? I mean I feel like Daddy. Macbeth would have a hefty package. He's gotTa pay extra for that oversized package. Liz We're going back into the brain scapegoat. For Loco she's coaxed d q into the butthole. She's like quit paying a cook and take control this body like like a like a Gog oilman would take that body. They swooped down they penetrate that massive yellow butthole yes. They go deep they take on earring gargle. Get Him and they Rassam Four Loko. She's got him. She's rustling into to the ground. She's doing all the work here. Yeah, and she's like go go run and and fix the shit. So dbq gets to just take over the body right fine for him while four logo has to do all the work. Of course, while they're inside the butthole struggling Liz, I wanNA play you what I think is the best line of the episode. Oh UK There Buddy. He's Oh big. Mac. was of watching two women fight and then Deke shots and he's like what? Oh Shit. There's something going on here. What you're do not distract me. This is really hot. I'm trying to lock this into my spank Sir please. Do not interrupt. God. You have to imagine big MACs. Bank goes deep because he's like a thousand years old He's got shit from so many different eras what genre and era in my in the mood for tonight he's got to do is just recall I, bet he's got great memory Rick you know what? I think what's happening right now is I'm I'm writing slash FIC- as we're talking. Right. So for locus doing hard work and I love Ogre. Disgusting D. Do takes a crack. It'll big Mac you shut up. Liz this whole thing just kind of falls apart here. So Q. Jumps at big Mac and instead of an epic fight or like dream, boat and Dimona are fighting indeed is taken on big Mac the Scottish fucking coward is like Oh shit we gotta go suddenly become a fair fight and I don't want to deal with that and he calls his plan he like priority one pickup gee-gee and his mic. You know swoops down with the latter ready to go and big MAC grabs it and flies off and he's like Dimona we got piece the fuck out and they run away, Liz yeah. What the fuck dude again, this is big MAC acting like an impressively huge card. Yeah. You know what I felt like up until that point he was kind of fixing that like the way that he kept not letting. Dimona take the cowardly route but apparently, it's fine when he gets to feel like the show introduced a really cool character and has been trying to ruin him throughout season to. Keep US my favorite character for a little while he was interesting in that one episode in season one. So the battles won Liz Dream Boat in D. Q. Free this stone rose yes they've been chained the whole time they've been chained up I. I. Don't know if you're mentioned that dream boat wants Deke to stay and hang out because goliaths GonNa Kinda WanNa get a debriefing of what the fuck just happened. They haven't got to hang out just be rookery rose. You know it'd be nice but he doesn't now and his recent made a lot of sense. Definitely he told tire like, no, they're still this battle going on in my brain I'm in control right now doesn't mean I'm going to be like I need to get this under control I'm not safe to be around to care your mental health. It's sad but again, it makes sense and I don't think that's the last we'll see of him. No I. Just hope that we see him maybe with better writer. Yeah and like a little less of his. Mindscape like I want more. In the real world stuff I don't think I would be upset at all. If the next time we saw him, he had his shit figured out for sure I don't need to see that. Yeah. We didn't have to see him struggling offscreen. He figured out we just get to see Q at his best yet I think that'd be dope. was were not done with this episode even sounds like we are because. This scene is with a callback to. One four, do you remember this? Dream boats. Resting Against Goliath has a stone in the park and she's going to take a NAP NAP and. Yet. Another runner or is it the same rundown I? Think? It's the same Guy I. Think it's the same fucking guide outfit looks to say Yeah Anyway Chug comes up. Like Hey. Where did that come from? Like I duNno man don't ask me. I like to think that he recognizes the statue I saw one of those. Would you wait a minute and dream like I dude I'm sleepy? and Liz wouldn't you believe that's still not the end of the episode because years where we finally get what the fuck was happening the previous twenty one and a half minutes or whatever. Yeah. So we go to big Mac Donald. Land. Dimona and big Mac are just like talking we'll do match it's like we should have killed him. We lost Eq- like everything sucks man. What do we even? What are we doing this for and big? Well, yeah. That sucks. But that wasn't even like the main reason we went to the clock tower in the first place, which is weird because they had the disk like that seemed as far as viewers concerned that seemed like one hundred percent their main. Why do they have the disc if not to get? You know we'll. Apparently it was actually to get the phoenix plate in the eye of Odin and your favorite thing to say the Grundell Dumbledore. Yeah and to Mona's like I know I know we magic ship at why I don't get it I. Use that book to put that spilling us the getting angrier and angrier and also more confused. Yeah. I was too and then they're like. Why even working with each other. Why do we need things? Why did we know the spell? What are we doing here? Everyone has asked they're working together. Now they asked I have asked I think you've acid we know lexus acid. It was the weird sisters Liz why hey, you know what we have time for that because we gotta go to. hunky hero and a fantastic leading lady to be brought to life love and loss cast indulge in radio drama filled to the brim with romance laughs at all those wonderfully awkward moment become with a new relationship and don't forget those delicious sexy parts that make romance novels. Oso Fun to enjoy. Is available now at calamity cast dot com or anywhere that you can find podcast. Liz. I just surprise you with the ending of our episode. Yeah. I was just as surprised when it came and I didn't like how it ended. and. The weird sisters they talk about like upcoming battle. were. I forgot to mention obviously, we don't know what they're talking about. Now I think that if this episode had maybe seated that a little bit more might be more interesting but they hit you with two seconds left and I think especially with how I felt city of stone. I don't care about their war I. Don't find the weird sisters to be compelling thing cities Joan kind of ruined big Mac in Dimona. I don't feel like I need to care. Yeah, and that bums me out. So I feel like that was the most we've seen the weird sisters like. Do. What they've been actively doing things since we met, you know they've been fucking around for thousand years. Yeah. But I feel like for most of the other things they would hint at things are tell things but this is the first daily had these two under a spell to control them to do something? Yeah. They're upping the ante a little. You have to wonder why right? Exactly you have to wonder why they couldn't go to Goliath directly and say. Some Shit's coming and you have some very important tools that we need. We need to work to get, but they're being really backhanded and sneaky using these villainous characters. They're not morally questionable they're villains. And I can't tell what size the weird sisters are supposed to be on full exactly. Because if they had gone to live and said, hey, we want to be on that been up or we want to be like weird and coated but there's a battle is a war you've got tools we need. We need to be on the same side because despite but no, they use characters that are explicitly villains toward our protagonist to gain those tools which puts them at odds with. If for no other reason than because astonishing. And it would be so much more interesting if our gargoyles allowed to work with these. Morally Grey care you know you and I both think it'd be more interesting if blast had to work with deluxe and I think the same goes for the weird sisters they don't have to be heroes. They don't have to be the good guys the show but I think if they're morally gray and they have to work with Goliath that makes the story possibility more interesting rights. Liz Did you like so. I thought it was okay. I like it a little less nail Jari really dream boat was annoyed me so much more episode and I don't like that I liked dreamed I don't WanNa, be annoyed by her I mean she does have a lot of character steps episode and that stuff about being tired near the there was ugly but I think. For, me, it was just it. This wasn't timed properly this Dimona big MAC team of coming. Right on the tail city of snow was a poor choice. Yeah. I Made My. How do you feel about Lexin except? So I felt like the first half at least kind of wish showcasing him specifically, you know this. Growth this technological skills. I like children to Character Rosie that multiple times today, and we've also discussed how his or maybe overblown a little. I think it makes sense that if he is spending his free time when not like battling bad guys and all that practicing his skills and reading up on stuff and then it makes sense. I mean he's probably like genius level Gargoyles good. Make sense that he pick it up things quickly but we don't ever really get to see that I'd like to see him being top packer level. Skills Yeah we don't get to see him grow as the character we get to see him having grown as which just I feel it makes it less believable. Yeah. Whereas like Hudson and Broadway we see them practicing reading. occurred in several episodes some talking about like working on this. So we see them honing those skills and getting better at it grants just see Lexington being genius boy smarter and Smarter Every episode that is a little over the top. So if Broadway in Hudson or regular reedy and LEX is working on hints tabby stuff. What's Brooklyn Brooklyn is book of chilling. Chilling out he's like I can read well enough and I'm not interested in computers. I'm just hanging out man would we get pizza today? He don't care. It would be nice if they showed Lexington say. Building a robot but he fucked something up yeah. You know it doesn't work for you know blows up in his face. I. Think that would be Nice I. think that'd be showing progress working with something new and struggling. To. Honestly could be a little funny. Yes. This perfect room comedy, their God it Liz. That's all I. got your. You know I felt bumped last week about how I talked about the city of stone mini series. Now felt like a shitting Oliver, drug oils in this episode. As like No, I gotTA. Do it again. To come back from that I, try to find the positive and been having a string of bad luck over here. Is, our listeners well welcome. Once again to the end of another episode of defenders of the night. A this show would not be as magical without the music provided by Ian the burrito bandit. 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Episode 105: Where Are My Sunglasses?

Defenders Of The Night

56:33 min | 6 months ago

Episode 105: Where Are My Sunglasses?

"We are defenders that night did the most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favorite mid-nineties animated program Gargoyles. I'm your host Daniel Williams and other host Eliza Circle is. Hey thanks for joining me today. In the studio talking about old g goals Gar. Giggles DO GARGOYLES. Yeah you are a gargling. We are finally finishing up awakening. They were discussing awakening. Par-five Mrs Season One episode five. Yup probably should've said those in the different owner. You know whatever I the. I thought I had before. The episode really started when we had the theme. When are they going to do the Goliath intro? I have to assume we'll get the next episode now that we're done with awakening and everybody who started watching they're like. I don't need to know wakened anxious I'll I'll start with episode six that makes sense but tell me what did I miss right. Tell me in thirty seconds what I missed in the past hundred minutes. I just want to hear his voice. More alright calm down okay. I Dunno man when it is jump into it. You got any our news garden coil. You know what this episode Awakening Part Five Aired October Twenty Eighth Nineteen Ninety Four. It was written by Eric. Luke and Michael Reaves. They have written the entire awakening series and it was directed by Takemitsu Cow. Mora and Katsuo Toronto nailed it. Thank you I assume showy. Yeah as with every episode so far. This one begins exactly where we left off. In the previous episode the Brogue oils have literally one thousand guns trained on them. And we're GONNA jump right into clip here because Brooklyn says floor comedy to days in New York City and there are already making bad elevator joke so I found it interesting that we did start right with them because like in the episode before we saw a little bit of Goliath and Lady Mac cargo whose name I can never remember. We don't get it yet. Oh that's right and we get it this episode a I never remember it. You know we got a little bit of them and then they cut away to the and then I thought we were gonNA cut away to Hudson and Bronx. Yeah the way they did. These attacks on the various locations feels a little disjointed to me. I would have preferred it if they did one the other than the other. But you know what I'm not in charge so it was twenty five years ago after. They're funny goof. Ups They Scurry back up the elevator shaft as the yellow jumpsuits as I'm calling them now and my notes they distort light in their asses up firing they shoot up the elevator like they mean business right in the Gargoyles. Go one floor. They don't even right. I'm not trying too hard. No they find all these whatever scientists who you where are these other. Oh so they go up a flight. The camera cuts to the scientists. And then the royals explode through the ceiling so they go back down to the floor. They were just on. I missed that they would opportu bypass the guns but we need to be down so they just like destroyed the floor. But how did they know where the lab was from the floor above Liz? I mean I guess David just gave them really good info. Experts that reading schematics prints. Why not so all? The guards are on that floor though just in a different. Yeah the fuck okay. I didn't even think about that so you didn't notice the bad matte painting when they burst through the ceiling. Because you know how hand-drawn animation works is. You have the same background and when something changes you just put a cell over it. So the background would have been the ceiling and then the next frame. There's they punched through the ceiling. And the lights flicker background gets really like it. Shifts really weird. I'm not an animation experts. I don't know exactly what the terminology would be. But you could tell the background was jumpy and did stays like in focus and doesn't move fascinating. You didn't see it but it was awkward to see. I like it was so weird that I rewound and watched again. I rewound my vhs cassette. And I watched again. I will have to rewatch the beginning with what's happening there. You know in the room with all the scientists and this is my really to understand first off how does Lexington no I understand. They explained to him. Okay you're going for this floppy disk. But he was boop knew exactly what to do. Yeah he knew exactly where to go like. Oh look technology people boop here it is. I got it. How because he is the Donatello of the group yeah does machines and then Broadway throws something a window and they're like Foca so for these scientists sake they are doing science the ceiling explodes. Monsters jumped down. I start to menaced them steal a floppy disk. Destroys the property. Like if you're on scientists you'd be like what the hell just happened. God what would you tell your spouse when you went home that night? I don't believe anything I said after. That anyway would seem ill right honey. Honeydew we need to take you to the hospital now. It's all very checked out. And there so our Powell oils palled around. They make a quick and easy. Get Away too easy. It seems too easy but again like they weren't where the guards are some the Dorky. Scientists don't necessarily know how to fight these monsters. No guards are assisting those fucking nerds. Yeah all the guards in the hallway. Nobody's in this room where the disk is. Yeah you'd think they would have heard the floor exploding and been like perhaps we should go See if they're okay in there maybe a war if they did go up a floor because they saw the oils up there and then there would with the folks and then lick maybe follow. The whole scene is following video game logic levy enemies in a different room. They do not bother. You are okay. That's Hilarious is Liz yes. We moved to the sewers where Hudson has certainly more of a problem. Procuring his disc. Yeah he and Bronx are going through these tunnels and they are spotted on a closed circuit television system and a platoon of the jumpsuits. Get the drop on Hudson. And he's like I'm GonNa fucking tear you apart and he starts ripping limbs and he starts punching guys and Bronx's chewing away arteries and it's brutal. It was pretty bad ass yet. None of that happens now. He can give up like a coward. I need these old. Hudson is the two days from retirement. I'm getting too old for this. Shit gargle literally that he literally says I'm getting too old for this. Well they they meant to look up. I didn't when did that movie. Come OUT THAT. I'm too old for this shit. I don't know if that was lethal weapon one or two but way before way before this it was probably a purposeful reference. Yeah for the adults watching and you know what Hudson is a big Fan of TV. Yeah maybe he just he saw them. That'd be areas so hudson is captured. Yes let's did. Everyone missed the giant doglike thing that he was rolling with because Bronx just rushes in and starts tearing dudes part for real this time and instead of immediately opening fire on the dog oil in the crazy winged monster. The guards stand around with their dixon their hand like. Oh what are we GONNA do? There's a dog thing. This guy's Jacking. Us wanted a time. What what guys. I hope. They're not paid very well. I had a note. Hudson gives no fucks about these humans. Ll Not have the same feelings towards humans that Goliath has no not at all and then know the fights happening in someone. Actually take a shot. Finally by the guy in the captain's Ad I feel like everyone of these soldier guys. Whatever the fuck were calling them they really suck it shooting their guns. They're like stormtroopers Even worse because they're not firing the dislike bumbling idiots yeah when they do fired like the US a Jillian bullets or lasers or whatever the hell it is and they don't hit anything like last episode or episodes ago when Lady detective turns over her shoulder and hits them with one bullet but she's being fired upon like a rain of bullets and nothing hits her like what she's in the Matrix. Yes so time a slowdown for her. So she can dodge all those bullets and fire. One perfectly aimed shock. Did you notice that the one shot that was fired in the scene? Shoot some sort of science device and then catches fire. They really like things catching fire. They are into fire in the show. It was a computer literally. Nothing would've happened. It would've maybe maybe says old. I guess like don't go around shooting a ton of computers like a waste waste of bullets in computers. Oh yes cracked me up that you know we have this compared to Lexington who's like beep disc and then Hudson issues like Smash Smash Smash. Here's my desk. He was literally in the right place still out of all the machines. He walked right to the proper Michigan and slams it down and I thought he was going to push the big button the fake out. I don't know what that big red button does. Which probably not good our big Red Buttons Ever. Good things The easy button. Yeah that is a big red button. So he's got the disk and before the GARGOYLES can escape. The Colonel Hits that bigger button and shuts the blast doors. I guess what the bigger to buy a big red button middle like that makes no sense. No I got a big red button on the wall or something that you hit to like door shutting button right not a better phrase for it to her shutting it so the gargle off the rails the gargoyles off down a random hall. And that's never a good idea. That's like horror movies shit. The fuck. You're going yeah. They're making their get away. Get trapped in a weird cage thing above some subway tracks. Yeah that's what I was GonNa ask you. You been a New York Avenue. Yeah did you ride the subway? Yeah I mean I guess if you're in the train you can't look up but like I'd assume something like that would exist for maintenance. I've never noticed the size of a subway tunnel or tunnel. That seemed really big underground. Train STATION TUNNEL. That has been turned into science lab right. So maybe it's extra big extra roomy for the science. You need space for Science. Ciano the floating sidewalk practically like they were in and then Hudson being the bad ass. He is just like rips it open and jumps onto a train. Your he does not have time for this shit. No he does not they. They finally escape. The TRAIN GOES ABOVE GROUND. Hudson catches the an updraft and they take to the air crash land nearby and they're safe strong gargoyles he's carrying Bronx. It'd be Bronx's got eight hundred pound bombs. The opera is a hefty boy. Yeah that's two successes yes. We're two for two one. More to the airship okay. Wouldn't it be hilarious? If the broil succeeded Hudson succeeded and Goliath fucked it up and like didn't or broke his disc or something harder so back in the airship. The lead hat is freaking out. Because you know. They know that they've lost two thirds of the data and Lady mcharg oil. Here's this somehow and takes this opportunity to say wrong. You lost it all through that giant steel door. Okay do they have like bat hearing do you think are they like part bats that they can hear really really well. I mean they do have large ears. That seem like a thick door lady. Mma gargoyles opens up the door. Like WRONG BITCH. You lost all of it. Yeah and again. It doesn't surprise me that she of all people knows exactly what she's doing because she hold your but I guess just like waltzes up to it and it's like beep boop and there it is and doesn't mine and the jumpsuits here don't even bother like this is the biggest thing that I've ever encountered. And he picked up a dude so you know what fine. Take your desk what he knows. What a yeah. And then for reasons. I don't understand. Lee Mc Gargoyles after retrieving the diss punches. Down into the computer console thing pulls out some sort of lightning filled tube touches it to a wall and somehow starts a fire Liz. Yeah I don't think the creators of Gargoyles no in any way. How computers work more fires. That seems to be true. Liz Yes what the fuck are we supposed to believe is happening right now? I don't know why is that tube filled with lightning. Yeah I don't think that's how fireworks. What what the fuck did she pull out? Pull out lightning tube like in the nineties had supercomputers I had to have lightning in order to work okay. Regular computers used regularly supercomputers use Super Electra sedate. Lightning lightning God. So has she been on this airship because we said that she knew all about the disk and she know where to get it but she posed. How did she know which? Computer David with the lightning. And it's in that one got it know all about lightening fine. So now there's smoke there's fire. Yes and Goliath. Why the fuck did you do that? And she's because I hate people. Douglas and she's like. I don't time to talk about this shit right now. We've got a book because it's exactly where my notes say. This bitch is evil. She is she hates all. Humans hates except David. I don't like they have to be fucking right and we're going to get to that at the end but yeah absolutely goliath wants to help the humans. We can't just leave him here. He says she's like fuck. Yeah we can. Also how does he know what the end result is going to be? They are putting out the fire because what this one room so like. How does that result in the airship going down was? That's a fantastic question. One that like God wants spark is going to make this thing explode if it is like that. Maybe don't have a supercomputer. Because when they got to the airship last episode they were being pushed backwards by the engine exhaust fans but that's what they were. They were spinning engines. Yes as one single computer caught fire. And the Goddamn airship goes down in the river. There goes and of course detective Dream Boat just had to be there. She's Look Rut. Rose that is of the giants. Whatever the fuck it is I guess. Are they used to seeing this thing or is it like incognito like do they see this thing floating above? New York was. I didn't even think of that. But yeah like what she expecting like. Oh it's the Zeppelin that I see all the time right slowly crashing into the river and then yeah two gargoyles and then. She's sick Goliath Goliath. We're GONNA we need announcing already we. We're going to have some words sir. Who is lady with you? I was your lady what the FAA was this whole Zeppelin slowly crashing into everything Israeli. Just Gimme perplexed. I feel like we should take a print look hunky hero and a fantastic leading lady to be brought to life with lovenox indulge in radio drama filled to the. Brim with romance laughed. All those wonderfully become with a new relationship and don't forget those delicious sexy parts that make Romance Novels. Oso to enjoy season. One of eleven love is available now at calamity cast dot com or anywhere that you can find podcast and we are hello. We are at Castle. Live though I have the justice. Shut up David you suck and I have no idea what that reference to well he was probably talking and then you like. David doesn't need anything specific. So as the Gargoyles were one hundred percent successful in their mission of returning the disks Liz at the nine minute. Twenty one second mark. Did you see the size of this disc? Did you notice that? David is holding it in his hand and it is easily three times the size of his hand. It is fucking gigantic. It's like the size of a record all of a sudden. I didn't look that big in the gargoyles hands because they're gargoyles. I think that it's just inconsistent. Animation changing scientists and then they do a wide shot radio disc close up giant. Maybe he was trying to emphasize the importance of this disc by making it bigger. Was I appreciate what you're trying to do here? You don't think they put thought into it but no. I think that it was just an animation mistake so obviously David's very happy to have his desk and he's just like okay. Thanks God I really don't like him fair so glide is talking to lady mcharg oil that he's got to go. He's got a hot date and he doesn't want to be late and she's like who the fuck are you talking about? You shouldn't trust any human. Yeah any of the except David. This kicks off a really interesting conversation. I WANNA listen and it's kind of long so just deal with aside from xanthos. We have no human friends nor should we humanity. Is Our enemy Goliath. I thought you learned that a Millennium Ago. Not Make War upon an entire world. Doesn't Santos prove that there are good humans as well as bad? Can you forgive the humans for what they did to our kind? The ones responsible for that have been dead for thousand years. Then there defendant shall pay. I will have blood blood. You said the centuries of changed me. They've changed you to become hard unforgiving. You're not as I remember you. I'm going to see my friend so she possessed like now. I know I keep asking this question but like it makes no sense to me that she hates humans this much. Then why trust David like it makes why I mean you keep asking it because none of this chip makes any sense. It would be really interesting to see lady gargoyles before. She decided that she hated all humans to get a real understand real understanding of what that turn was because even when we see her thousand years ago she didn't trust the humans it would have been really cool to see what made her turn and maybe understood this kind of evil streak a little better because right now it's just making her look bad. She's an asshole. Yes she's just evil for the sake of being evil or you know angry for the sake of being angry but without a cause right. We'll get there who maybe we're only five episodes and we've got seventy three more to go. Who Anyway Goliath is like you need to get a handle on your shit. I have places to be an lady to woo. He fucks off to and then we cut to D- Alexes Bank of computers. He's got incredible camera angle of this entire argument. He's watching it all happen from a drone if you notice the camera angle on his computer screen. It is like pulled back wide shot from above like bird's eye view. How the FUCK IS HE GETTING? This Camera Angle. You see this in cartoons and shit all the time like how are you seeing the same view that either viewer emceeing? He's secretly because they don't understand technology. He secretly during the day strapped go pros to their chests and they don't even realize that they're they're yeah exactly before we go to the next. Liz Deluxe says Goliath is too hard to control. What a pity something like that creepy and weird talking about I guess. He was expecting Goliath to be like a mindless monster that he can control like a Frankenstein's monster kind of situation but then Frankenstein's monster gets a brain and smart. Sounds like no no no dad. You can't control me. I'm going to go do my own thing. But he's had previous interactions with lady mcharg oil. Who is very manipulative and conniving in her own right yes for sure but I think he's realizing Oh Goliath is too good maybe like I can't just convinced the man to attack an airship. I guess because he's out of the fight between Lady G and him that he's like oh I thought having her around would like get him to do things and he's he like. No no no. I don't like this side of you bye-bye I don't know. It seems like a quick turn on David's part but he's just like because deluxe is plan has one hundred percent worked right. So why is he like Goliath all of a sudden even though I totally got him to do everything I wanted and you think the fact that Goliath does trust humans more than lady? Jaye would work on David's behalf. Yeah Yeah we've finished our worrying about deluxe. Yeah we're moving to the rooftops taking so detective. Dream Boat is patiently waiting for an explanation as to where to wear Goliath was 'cause she thought him flying away from as she calls it a plane crash girl. I don't know if you've seen a point before. But it's fucking not a plane. I have never left Manhattan. I have no idea what a plane is. One thousand nine hundred ninety four so she's not familiar with the future. Yeah not a good detective but she is because she already know some Shit Yeah. She knew the three labs were robbed by creatures. So she's like she's like affect my gargoyles and motherfucker. I saw you with another woman. Yeah so it's just like really just yelled at because I going to go see you in late. Gd You're gonNA yell about her. Do you think that's what love triangles do anyway? So he explains that the desk were stolen from David an he was just helping get back. What was rightly his. Yes they had to fight and yes destruction happened but like we were helping David. It's fine dream. Boats not having any of glance condescending. Patriarchal Bullshit dropped some knowledge on his ass. Check this shit shit out. Remember this trace. That emblem. It's the logo of the robotics firm that's owned by. Are you ready Xanax? Enterprises are you saying that Santos's responsible for the attack in the park. That's exactly what I'm saying. He probably planted that Boko new himself. But those were the same men who stole the disks from him Goliath. Nothing was stolen checked. Those discs were cyber by addicts property. He must have stated that to trick you into stealing the disks. He used you. He's been using you from the beginning. Pretty sure this confirms our theory. Deluxe is behind all of it. I don't fully understand why I don't even understand. Okay Liz. Can you explain it to me? So that means all three labs his is that what it means. That's what I was confused. Minute okay actually know this own cyber -biotics so here's I think what happened okay. The case that was stolen didn't have anything in it right. It was empty so the the helmet guys are his so the attack. That happened in episode two. That was his people to stage a fake robbery. So he could be like hey. They stole that from me. I need it back so the discs were never his information The data was never his. He just needed. He knew Goliath Gargoyles. Wouldn't just Steal Willy. Nilly had to have a reason and the reason was they stole my shit. I need it back. Stealing it period. Okay so he doesn't own these cyber -biotics company no his rival rival. Yeah Okay He. He came yes. The case was empty. Had nothing in it. He pretended to have his shit stolen. And that does make sense. Because these cyber -biotics jumpsuit guards looks different different than the helmet. Guys Jumpsuits v Helmets. Yeah all right you got it. Make sense to me. Yeah I accept. Oh so dream. Boat Convinces Goliath. That deluxe is definitely a shit. Dick Desk Fuck but the have to trust somebody. So why not a her and then she rubs his face. Oh yeah she promises. It'll be worth like girl. You are using your charm to win him over you know. He's thirsty. Boy Live boy. Come here come to Mama. Gotcha boy. Sh God it's going Zana Toast Tower. Yup Liz play this clip. Yes please it has to do with in Deluxe spouting some shit that I just. It goes back to the the not being able to trust glass. It just doesn't make any sense so all right let's listen. I'm afraid. Gargoyles have outlived their usefulness. I can't count on their loyalty but now with the data on those discs. I can bring their replacements. Online holiday already outlived their usefulness. They've been uncurbed cursed for like two days. Let you. That's fuck ton of work to get these gargoyles generic city to be like we're done with you is who days maybe three. I'm even so flustered. Because he gave them one assignment and they did and he lied to them about the assignment and they still fucking did. What is he talking about here? Like he's lost his marbles bonkers so okay he's full of Shit. Hurry the usefulness of Goliath and company he had them steal the discs for robot related reasons. It kind of sounds like he in Owen. They're like hey when the sun comes up and the other gargoyles are asleep. Test them and lady MIC Gargoyles. Like why the fuck should we wait? Let's blow these mother fuckers now. What is her game well? She's manned that Goliath is with another lady she's using her vagina. That think right now. So you're telling me that rather destroy people the only people who are left the only ones left so she called the last of kind the last she wants to be the last gargoyles. Does she really think that if he's like all right? I got these robots now. I don't need creatures. I can't control. She gets the stick around like she's elusive right. She's way more of a loose cannon than than go is in the other she's a loose end. Loose cannon yeah. She thinks she's more important than she is. The problem women are always thinking that sexism we go outside and our are just chill and just like chill into the Max. Where did you get that little computer? He's got a little computer Brooklyn his sports them. Six shades and Broadway. Being the fat one has an entire dining setting of snacks he got like takeout from everywhere they get the table. It's gotTa tablecloth on what Does Avenue. If you have a billionaire who is your pretty much sugar daddy right like. That's pretty much what David is doing taking care of them. You just dragged out a table random room. He's like I want to eat. Yes so this further confirmed my theory that these are all Ninja Turtle. Analogs get back to that. Goliath is Leonardo. Obviously he's the leader. Lexington is our DONATELLO. He does machines Brooklyn cool sunglasses as a Raphael but rude. Yes give me break. Liangelo isn't Raphael. Yeah so yeah okay. Michelangelo is our Party Dude Broadway. Always eating pizza so Hudson. He's gotTa be our master splinter. I assume he's old. Yeah WHO'S BRONX? I couldn't figure it out. I sat there like who is Bronx in this scenario. I don't know because obviously Casey Jones Amish because I don't have anyone left Bronx's Casey Jones share because they don't have any pets now. No turtle a turtle. No that seems inappropriate that seems like slavery anyway and then robots. Let's get into this robot. Shit Deluxe has built giant Gargoyles. Automatons right like why if you're going to build robots that can do whatever you want and destroy set like me to look like. Why do they look like Elias? Why are they looking like Gargoyles? David I think David also has a boner for Goliath. Yeah maybe he recognizes power. Yeah in leadership. Do you think that he? How long did it take to build these robots right? Did he have them and he just needed the software? Yes I think that was. He had them and that's why he needed the disks but like just like boop that into the computer and like power them up like I guess. It's some sort of technology that he hasn't been able to create himself so that's why hit to steal it from the other people. That's gotTa feel really shitty right. You're supposed to be the best and you're like oh I can't do this thing. I WANNA do without the shit that they created and the reason I ask is because winded. He decide that they were all going to look like a life. I guess he when he went to Scotland and I was like Oh yes castle. I'm GONNA buy it. He just stared longingly at the statue. And he's like this. This is what I want. This is my I was GONNA say. David this shelby my masterpiece exactly he tells the robots to attack and the Robo goals start firing off all kinds of lasers and shit and it gets really exciting. This episode is full of lasers and gun play. Shit it's wild. Why does it? Nypd do nothing about the fact that this building is constantly having light shows in two days to attacks. Yeah I don't know I wonder if it's because it's so high up that they cannot see it. I like what he's describing. Why The robot? They're better and he's like well they can fly. They don't just glide unlike Oh way to way to slide that dig on them. Also they have rocket strapped to their backs flapping their stupid robot wings. Shut up can you just imagine how rich deluxe must be that first off he was able to buy a fucking castle? Haven't transported bit by bit and rebuilt in New York City to have these gargoyles for only a couple of days. Also somewhere in there built these robots like dude. Get A fucking hobby. It's building killer. Robots but here's the thing why what are the robots for. I can't wait to find that. Oh what is his fucking in game here. Did He. Build the robots to replace the GARGOYLES? Did he build those robots in six hours? I don't know I have so many questions about these fucking robot. So he had gargoyles. His purpose of them is to protect his company right and also steal stuff from the other company like to be his minions. I think he was born. He was like own. See if Madrick's real yes. Yeah magic is real as a cool. It's real. I like my robots butter though. Go these imagine trill fucking robots a cooler and you know what I gotta say. I'd rather have goliath that isn't metal. Stone over metal. Yo I mean if you give that robot glass a good personality it's Kinda yeah but doesn't have a personality or milling machine on at the moment but there's always room for improvement. Just makes him even more like Tony. Stark had Tony Stark. In all of my experience has never been out now just evil. No not at all let me. That's his hope thing as he's like. Oh fuck this. I can't have my dad's company being used to make missiles and shit for bad people. Tony Stark always accidentally evil like most of the time. He's got like a good idea. A heart of gold in that little glowing but he's always messing something up and like. I'm accidentally the villain again. No let me fix s. Got All my friends killed. Poor still just go back in time anyway so back to gargoyles which I feel like we've only talked about sixty percent of the time this it just keeps making me think of other. You're not wrong. We get a really action packed. Sequences the Gargoyles try to say the jet packs and lasers and it's really it's no use. They are no match for these robots Broadway gets taken out and crash lands Lexington gets hit mid flight and broken managed to catch him mid air. My Poor Little Lexington. And here's the thing about this scene. This little berry here Brooklyn is acting like he's struggling to stay aflutter with Lexington in his arms right but Hudson could carry the big dog. No problem in the first episode Brooklyn was seen carrying to vikings in throwing them over the castle walls to full grown men. You're telling me that Lexington weighs more at three foot. Six inches weighs more than two full grown vikings. Liz I don't buy it. Some Justice Brooklyn's being blasted out of the sky. Goliath shows up from his date and smashes one of the bots and shit just goes crazy at this point so of course. It's real. Goliath versus robot Goliath in. It's pretty Intense Loy there's lust in your eyes. I see across the table making me uncomfortable. Yeah and so yet again Gliding makes no sense because Goliath is going against robot him and just like FIS up into the sky. How little buddy. I can only assume that. He caught like an updraft but it looked like he flapped and went up word so anyway he moves Lexington all the way who's unconscious and put them next to Broadway. Who's also unconscious and then goes back to the fight. Meanwhile who has been chilling out in the TV room watching the real world road rules. Challenge comes out because of all the noise is like what are you crazy. Kids up to Holy Shit fucking. The castle is once again just collapsing around him. Lasers are going off left and he and Bronx are attacked by another Goliath box. There too quick. They've got those like reflexes at two hundred and fifty thousand years old. Bronx manages to jump up and grab the Goliath Bot in mid flight and grab by the tail and his pulling and pulling in Hudson pulls out his fucking short sword which I often forget that he has to and slices that robot like forehead to Dick I. He's way more warrior than the others. He's is like almost like armourer his shoes. And why are they not all arm? No clearly they know that weapons is maybe they think their claws are good. Enough like Hudson knows than that and he's like you know what here's to humans understand certain things and it's okay for us their shit. Yeah TV. The sword wearing clothes we briefly cut to the lobbyists detective. Dream Boat comes running through my God and we're explosions. Yeah like I already know what's going on. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA go ahead. I'm just GONNA go. She runs right by the the security guard and lobby. She's like no. I know where I'm going. We go up to the Skies Glances surfing the back of robot. Maybe he's the Michelangelo. Nah Okay he sends that fucking robot just careening headfirst into another flight robot. Yes taken out to at once. It's awesome the fucking master. They rain robot. Parts down onto deluxe and Owen. That was pretty funny. Like fuck you you piece of Shit. Well deserves that. He does and he's just sitting here like This is not going how I thought it would. This would really on my favorite. I laughed out loud when those parts were raining down on them was like fuck you. So here's my question. So you know they're beating ass taking names and and winning right like the tide has turned to since glide showed up there actually succeeding. What does David think is going to happen? That like oh I just tried to kill them for no reason and they still live here right. I ask that later on like what is the expected outcome right. Does he want to kill the Gargoyles? It seems like whereas it just another test. I don't know but like how do you come back from that? God is like all right this dude just fucking trying. Kill me in my people my. Bros and cool. We're just GONNA keep chilling on this roof and eating food. And maybe that's the exchange. He occasionally he tries to kill us. But like it's free rent so it's new Manhattan expensive. Yeah that speaks also to lady mcharg like why does she want you said it earlier? But why does she want the last of her kind to be destroyed? Robots do not understand her. I feel like I need a deep dive character. Study of her family. Learn more as the show progresses so Brooklyn and Goliath. They managed to take out the last robot by trapping. Part of the castle on top of it does he just have a mason on call. Come Fixes Castle every fucking day not on call the Mason just lives on site. Yeah every day pouching this again so they take the last robot there are no more robots and as angry as lady. Mcharg oil is like you wouldn't think that what happens next would happen but she pulls out a fucking Bazooka right and starts firing at the last gargoyles in existence. When did she learn guns? A B. Why and we don't learn by the end of the episode. We do not learn what her deal is. Why she so angry. Liz yes there's a dramatic act break here in the episode and I think we should follow suit. I'm left flustered. I needed. Take some deep breath. Okay am worried I am worried. We're GONNA take a own. Thanks for listening. Help others find our show by rating and reviewing on I tunes checkout calamity cast dot com for even more content and follow us on facebook twitter and instagram. To get in touch and let us know. How doing if you like what you hear and you want to help. Keep the lights on. Consider becoming a regular calamity cast contributor on Patriot. Or You'd like to make a one time donation you can do so at pay pal dot me slash clammy cast. We appreciate your support and your donations. Truly make a difference. Okay so we are back at the drama and the castle. Oh it's still happening and leading your mcharg oil. Just has her fucking Bazooka and fires a rocket at Goliath. Any like fifteen feet away girl what are you doing? You love that man you literally just like yeah. They were wing hugging in the last episode. They were we. It was hand stuff their wings were protecting them from view. The hand stuff. Here's the thing like how do you turn that? If she had hit him she would have been covered in his core. That's how close. She was standing just glide meet and he's like what are you doing? What are you doing right now? Why are you doing this? Yeah she and Goliath. Have kind of a standoff. The other gargoyles are prepared to rip deluxe a new asshole. And he's like. Hey how about instead of attacking me. We just let these two guys have a little chat. I feel like they were running out of time here in the episode. They're like no more action. We gotTA stop. We ran out of fight budget. And there's that villainous monologue that lady Macbeth has and I'm gonNA play that here. Okay combine if your food but then you always were too. If you'd only taken the rest of our clan away from the castle that night. The plan was perfect it would have succeeded. What plan I made a bargain with captain. I was to get us all out of the castle. So that the Vikings could save it what it would have worked and after the humans were gone we would have had the castle all to ourselves but you ruined it. You had to protect the humans. You made a stay at the castle when we should have been with you when the Vikings attacked the captain said he'd protect us but I didn't trust him. I've stayed alive because I trust anyone. But why did you do it? You can ask me that. After how they treated us they had to pay all humanity has to pay what they did to Al Kind. This is a pretty heavy scene. She dropped some big news. Yeah she hates. Everybody hates all the humans she wants to wipe them out and create a world for her kind leashes to kill her logic. Her logic makes no sense. I still don't understand what El Capitan was trying to do right. So he wanted to the castle for himself he was trying to get rid of. Is that all it was no. He's just really tight with gargoyles. Who's like all this hanging out? We're tight we're cool. Let's be friends. Fuck all the other humans meat. I like this. I like this plan so you but I like your plan. So does she no matter white year it is? She finds a stupid male human to be like even plan. I'll be part of this. I guess so. I'll capitan is like deluxe nail except Alexa pilots. More power but I guess a thousand years ago. If her plan had succeeded it would have been a lot easier to go round killing all the humans and there would have been more gargoyles to do it. But now don't understand doesn't really make any sense. My my notes continue to be shouting about deluxe and what he gets out of all this saying that from the beginning of this episode and even before so at this point we're near the end of episode five foreclosing closing out the awakening. Liz We finally get to hear lady MIC Gargoyles name which is shorter than lady mcharg oil. And I'm glad because I don't have to say it or type it anymore. I named to Goliath the humans gave it to me long ago. You should know it before you die. I am Mona. Humans. Give her nameless. Yes we finally get to call her by the name that we knew she had all along. She is Dimona now. So why did they give her name because she was the all haughty but like humans gave me a name to Goliaths? They probably gave all you assholes names like you're telling me that someone gave Goliath name. Someone gave Dimona a name and they're like envy authors and the pro coil. What's also how did he not know her name? Does she get a name after they were stone? Lake Shoe survived right like she was able like. She wasn't stone defied so like she says she was. And it's believable. She says she was cursed. By the MAGA's the same way that goliaths decided to be cursed by the mega is to like. She went to him and was like. Hey just you know. But she's also a liar so who the fuck knows what she's been doing the past thousand years right when she got that name. You're right that's a good question that I never considered because if it were at the same time that he got Goliath like why wouldn't they call her Dimona to his face? Yeah yes you can call me Dimona but other gargoyles around maybe they just called her. Dimona bonaly tour phase but like lose fucking Damone over here. T think I'm sure it's a playoff like demon bs. Something Lady Demon she as a level demon. Oh my so. We're getting wrapped up in the minutia. Here we're almost finished. After Dimona says her name Dream Boat finally shows up these elevators. They're not super speedy now. She is been writing elevator in real time. She just decided to run up the stairs instead. Yeah she took the stairs. Five hundred floors another rocket is fired and it takes out the castle as we've already mentioned deluxe must have obtained that live on the property like ten floors of the skyscraper are devoted to housing his masons. That's why it's so big. He's got a house all of his Mason. This rocket explosion. Yes knocks deluxe. The fuck out good but it also makes Dimona and dream boat get near the edge and start tumbling and Goliath has to make the choice. Do I save the human girl who I love or do I save Damone? I guess her name is who I thought I loved but apparently has been after me this whole any extreme vote. Well here's what I would say to that. Liz Dimona has wings yes. She can't help herself and she's fine but also dream is used to it. This is the second time she just likes tumbling off buildings from the stratosphere down to the earth below like she's over she's like. This isn't even exciting anymore. It's fine obviously as you said. He Saves Dream Boat Setzer Down Safely. And then he goes to throw deluxe off the fucking. Yeah but don't talk him out of it and it's like if you do it then you're no better than Dimona or you know. They just won't be a plot anymore if he just through deluxe off the roof. All of the gargoyles problems would go away which it might be worth that killing. One human in cold blood and really. It's not in cold blood right. It's to protect also in retaliation for the shit that he's already pulled right. He tried to kill them. It's self defense. It's really not to say that deluxe does not deserve this shit. It would be a terrifying way to die guess cod yeah but instead Dream Boat. Just arrest okay. Not that that's going to do anything. Owns the police. You Know He Shirley. How else are they just like? Turning a blind eye to all this explosion battle. He's got the police in his pocket. He is this city. The episode ends with some comedy from the oils lighthearted way to in this pretty heavy episode. Brooklyn's sunglasses his sweet shades. Were broken in the fight. Broadway's hungry gliding dream boat. Make out and yeah that's it they don't make but they do make plans for another date. Which made me wonder? When does she ever sleep or work? Yeah she'd literally spent every night until sunrise with Goliath. Maybe she takes micro naps. Maybe you know five minutes here. Ten minutes there. She's trainer her body to run off of six hours of sleep total but in very small chunks. Maybe Goliath just energizes her. She doesn't have to work until nine. Thirty Sun comes up around this? Let's call it summertime around five thirty six o'clock and after he wears her ass out she goes home and goes right to sleep. Our just gets all comfy cozy for a couple of hours Liz. We've decided that This is just an adult rated podcast about. I think that's been clear. Since episode one YEAH WE ARE FOULED. But we made it to the end of the awakening. Five part the start of the show. Yeah I think we should take one more break. We'll finish her up. We'll say goodbye and we'll see what's happening next week. Cool Long. In Modern Day Bristol. Someone is copying one of the most infamous serial killers of all time. Jack The ripper. Only this time. The story is different. A woman survives and decides to get her revenge by taking the law into her own hands but in so doing she awakens a darkness deep insider if you like suspense Thrillers Man. Serial killers tune into Jane. The ripper and audio drama coming to Calamity Cast Dot Com Halloween Twenty nineteen. Welcome back everybody to defenders of the night. Where a once again. We have finished the five part opening to the gargoyles series the awakening Liz. Yes hell of a run right. This is a really interesting way to start the show. What did you think of this up? In specific I liked it. It was very action packed. you learn things? I'll just kept making me go well and like. I have so many questions and a good thing that means. I WANNA keep watching in hopes that these questions will be answered especially about the robots and the Mona. I'm glad we can call her by her name. Now yeah cheese it fell off the roof and I do think she survived The they leave that open ended by like wings. Obviously Juliet right leg. We've seen multiple other gargoyles fall off the roof like we know they're going to be fine. Fine did we call it on the robots or did we call it. You said it. Earlier on the episode robot related. We said it way. Early in the series deluxe is the bad guy. Yup We nailed these things and I gotta say it's not because I seen the series before because I didn't remember Shit right like some of this stuff wasn't coming back. Oh no the whole first episode came back to me but since then I'm like okay. I remember general things about this series as a whole but yeah I I'm not remembering these platforms at all for me for a lot of it's been like watching a new show. Yeah that's how little I remember. It's more of the kind of feelings that brings up in me like the. Yes fucking my childhood. Yes exactly yeah. What do you think David trying to do? I think that he's just trying to be an evil rich guy like despite what they've shown us. He has specific motivations other than to be bad guy with a lot of money. He can do this. He's doing it. Yeah he doesn't have any specific ideas or goals right now or if he does. They are not being broadcast to the viewer rain. Yeah just to be the biggest baddest richest tech guy. I don't know how about you. What do you got any? Yeah I think a lot of is just like the be the most powerful unstoppable. I'd like to know his backstory a little bit like I feel like most villains have some sort of reason why they are the way they are right. The best villains are the ones that are the heroes their stories so maybe he has motivations that we'll see more clearly as the series goes on. I hope so or it's going to be one note of character. Just will no. Yeah and he seems like there's so much room for gross fair that we're going to get a lot of his pesos or not. Because it's fucking children's cartoon rate that's the thing who knows. I know I mentioned this during the show itself. But what are they supposed to do now? They were literally just had attempted. Murder happened to them. David has shown his hand right early. Yeah little soon. They know he wants them. Dead and has these robots has plans for mass destruction. They know Dimona is not a good gargoyles cool. 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Episode 113: Its Alive!

Defenders Of The Night

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Episode 113: Its Alive!

"As the host of defenders of the night and official representatives of the clammy cast network Daniel and I would like to make it clear that we and all that we represent as podcasters in humans are firmly on Waverley, anti-racist as a couple of white people drenched in societal privilege. We will never understand what it means to be black in America. Instead we will listen. We will learn, and we will grow to become better allies in the fight. Fight for equality, there is a lot of darkness in the world, and we hope are goofy show about nineties. Cartoon can bring you a little laughter during the fight, but we are by no means a distraction. Never forget that black men and boys are again being lynched. People of color are still being gunned down by police and Briana Taylor's killers are still free to put it bluntly. All black lives matter fuck racism and fuck the police. moved. We Are Defenders Day. The most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favorite mid-nineties animated program because God. Who that's. I I've never watched the show. I am your host Daniel Williams and I am your other host Liz. Urkel Liz we did it. We watched a season of gargoyles this season for. Only thirteen episodes, but you know what that's okay. Yeah, today we are covering season one episode thirteen of Gargoyles reawakening the full circle here. Yeah, really just finished on a high note with these. Tell me more Liz. This episode aired February Third Nineteen, ninety five. It was directed by Subaru Hashimoto in Toronto and it was written by I'm beginning to think my favorite gargoyles writer. Brin Chandler reaves. She's doing it right. Yes, this episode, just going to spoil it right now. MAZING is definitely a good way to end a season Homma. God so much emotion so much pay those. It was a really. I loved it. Which is a great? How much we hated the last one kidding rollercoaster with some of these episodes man, would you just go screaming down at the bottom with episode twelve? The season finale takes us back up to that crest, and then yes, I, guess you I. Don't Know How rollercoasters work I. Guess You gotTa. Go Back Down. Must We. Before we dive into this family of Gargoyles? We to ask everyone listening to leave a five star rating and review on your podcast of choice. Can you do that? We'd love to expand our audience. Our our Powell's WanNa see some ratings and reviews. Come on how we know you're listening, because we are the best, and only as far as I'm concerned cargo podcast. I'm not willing to believe that anyone has ever done a podcast about anything. Even related to cartoons. Let alone gargoyles. I'm pretty sure. This is new territory. Well, you know we are ground breakers and all that there's one thing you gotta. Know about me, Liz. Don't do research now you don't. That's my, I don't even watch. These episodes I make these notes up entirely. How are they pretty good there, you, you are Neyla net with that accuracy just comes to me. Shall we I? Guess I've been rambling a long time. All right well, our episode starts in the. Streets of New York City. Where a small little mom and pop shop is being held up for apparently the third time that month. Yeah, this burglar. This rubber I don't know are they did the same thing it doesn't matter. He takes off down the street a successful robbery. stor? Yeah, I don't know why I assumed it was Christmas Eve that doesn't make any sense and it was snowing. It gave me Christmas Eve vibes and I mean we've better follow this guy because I'm sure that he's going to play a very integral role in the plot of the story, right, you'd think no. Is. Actually we follow him. And then we overshoot it and we travel back in time a thousand years, so we go back to nine ninety four ad. Scotland were being taken back to the ninth at Goliath and not yet Hudson attempt to track down the Vikings. We all remember those guys because it takes so we really are ending where we started. Yeah, because and put that together yeah. Anyway I have to say anytime. It's a Brennan episode and we do a flashback. I get really excited because she. She doesn't really well, she does the show really well. Yeah, we are seeing new parts of this story, which I always am a fan of I hate when we flash back to something in any TV, show and you see the same thing over and over again like the audiences the same thing, but a new character is introduced. Introduced to the information I'm like no, no, no, yeah! If you're not showing the audience something new, don't do it. Yeah, exactly and this did this gave us new stuff. This is great. We are introduced to a whole new character new gargoyles. Yeah, this is nuts. Mere seconds into this episode. We have to immediately pause for everyone's favorite podcasts within a podcast, calamity cast very own lizards favorite show that she's never seen star Trek next generation I was curious. If this voice actor was star person or not, yeah, it's a long title for a show. We should probably shorten a little bit, but we're introduced to like I said a new gargoyles voiced by iconic shampoo salesman Michael Dorn. You know Michael Dorn Right. You know Neutrogena. T GEL NEUTROGENA. It works. Tell me more about Michael, Doran well famous as he is for. The shampoo commercials, he also maybe known for portraying starfleet very favorite klingon. Security. Chief, WARF. Gave, you heard of that character. You've never heard of WARF KLINGON warrior. Left champion. Jesus. Not only was he on the starship enterprise for seven seasons, but he actually crossed over to deep space nine. Did you know that at least now? Why would you said you never heard of the character? It was a dumb question. Liz I'm sure you knew this fact about warfare character that you never even heard of before right? Yes, Deanna troi character play by Marina Surtees, Dimona. She in wharf. Were lovers on Star Trek. Aboard the starship enterprise, it seemed like they had a little something something going on. Yeah, so Goldstone and Dimona in another universe totally ban. So goliath prepping to hunt Vikings which we know, he and Hudson go. We've seen that before. They don't succeed Dimona being Dimona and Anti all of those, and then suddenly the Magus shows up. You're all suck. Goo You need to go in do. Get them. Before they come back. PISS my robes. ooh, oh! God, he's standing on the wall of this popped out of nowhere. Go to your job. Dude. What I'm doing, I'm getting hats unready. Do. We need to do and stop the Vikings. I'm a little boy. It's weird that he said that on children. I know so Dimona and new guy whose name we don't know yet are talking about. Why are we spending our time and energy going after these vikings when these humans don't even appreciate US Moral Dimona Song? Yeah, not Hudson stress up the he does a Strut. He's just stares, and he delivers this line or guard criminal more. Stop protecting the castle in breathing the Air Am. Am I wrong in assuming that the Gargoyles as a clan have been around long before the castle has been there. I believe Dimona says as much yeah, maybe he's saying like it's inaugurals blood to protect period. What he says the castle we find out later that this is apparently like Hudson slogan. Yeah, there's like you says all the time and they are broke oils. Just like okay. We get at Grandma spouting off of this bullshit again. I don't like that line because we know that the gargoyles have been there long before the castle was built, and it kind of makes Hudson sound a little bit like a collaborator to an extent. We are here to protect and serve the humans in this castle, and it's like no man. You're not used to be free. Yeah, that makes sense. To think about this. Well, that's the end of that scene would jump back to present time. Rogue Oil's going out for a movie. I appreciate that they finally acknowledged that they live above a police station. Like why do we need to protect this space? The police are there. Not much can really happen to you up there. It's the thing I've been saying for weeks the Brooklyn. He lays it out perfectly Hudson we live above a police station. What could happen? He says it because they asked if he wants to go. See this new movie. That's coming out and Hudson's like. Why would I go to a movie theater? It's going to be on cable eventual eventually and I'm just going to jump ahead there. Watching Bambi I've never seen Bambi. Bambi did not come out in one thousand, nine, hundred five, so this whole conversation of like Oh why would I go? It'll be on cable soon. What when did it become out like the forties nine hundred forty two? You know Hudson just doesn't want to go out. That's fine. Someone's gotTa protect the castle. Some inconsistencies here I mean why not say at least was ninety five Aladdin the act. You think, Aladdin. Done fucking Little Mermaid and it would've made more sense than Bambi. For their movie and Hudson staying in with a warm blanket and a hot chocolate and dream boat just shows up to say hey, she can tell. The glider is grumpy. He's standing on the other side of the clock face brooding brutally. Route to Dream Boat I didn't like it. I didn't understand these vibes at. Group and taking it out on her for no reason. Why did something happen between them that I forgot about in a previous episode lake. Also before she shows up. He's smiling at the brogue oils, and you know the interaction between them and Hudson He. The camera cuts the camera whenever the camera cuts to him and he's like these guys. This is my family is. What a fun bunch! And then they leave and he's like I. Can brew can't let the Children See Daddy angry. Yes? Maybe you know what it was. Maybe it's because she never fucking calls I. Just shows up. Maybe maybe he thinks he deserves better. She drops in every night. She doesn't knock. She's just like. She doesn't care if I'm in the mood or I, maybe she should just get to work. It's real cold shoulder shit, you know. But then mood like snap changes again. Yeah, because she's like okay, yeah gotta get to work. She's like Oh, you seem upset then he's mad at her. She's like whatever it's fine. Work by, and she does the whole police model like. Protect and serve and like suddenly. He's wait what tell me more. What is this like? Spend on this price? And maybe he's just being broody because he doesn't have his castle to protect, so he feels like what is my purpose like why? Why am I here like? My whole concept of my existence isn't being used anymore so now what it seems like that kind of attitude should have popped up earlier in the season them yeah, not episode thirteen suddenly. Who's just like who was the meaning of life? What am I doing? Real your vibes. He does your vibes in general sometimes so he gets really fucking excited about this whole protecting and serving the public thing, and just like can I come? She's like sure I wouldn't go. To work like typical like dude fashion. He doesn't ask is like I. Think I'm GonNa come with you. Maybe I'M GONNA. Come with you and she's like. I'm on my shift like I'm working and they have a partner now. Am I supposed to just like have Matt Not Notice you? It's where that he's so excited about this now, and he never considered like. Maybe protecting serve like what did he think? She did I don't know because she explained what a detective was on episode two. She's brought this up. You know what I do. Have you not been listening to me for months? I mean obviously not. It's time for work. I always think it's weird and this show where there. You think that we're going to follow logical trail. Okay. Now it's time to go to work, so we go to work now. It's work now. We go to Castle Wibran. Weird Dr Frankenstein style lab situation happening Layton unabashed and Frankenstein action here. and. We see that there's some sort of body on a bed, covered Dimona, doing weird witchcraft stuff, and because doing his science stuff. What is she doing? Oh She knows magic now. She just knows it right because before that she had to have. The book is still the good. Then the get the book. But gargoyles got the book back to wait, but maybe it stayed at the castle. Maybe they didn't bring it with them when they left the castle because I don't happen when they were still living at the cast. No, no, no, no, no, they broke in, remember in own tried to stop them Yeah, it's not like they gave the book back yeah. Dimona just knows magic, apparently Dimona house whatever skills they need her to have, and they say that it's like a mixture of science and magic or whatever, but we don't see the magic part. She has like A. Kind of thing where she's like ads all mixed up, and then we see her like sprinkling the sparkly powder over the body, I must have missed. That must have been looking away because I was like I see a skull with a candle on it and I guess some incense burning. David was just like you know what this lab needs. School handles. The fuck do. This castle in the the building that holds it up. It's a mind fuck I would like to know what's in every. No ear said that's a billion times but I really want the blueprints of the building in the castle. We know for sure that the castle itself has at least forums. It's got a great hall. It's got a TV lounge. A restaurant sized kitchen. Yes, and a Frankenstein lab. It appears as if they're going to bring a gargoyles to life and they do, and it's not just a gargoyles Liz. It's a cyber oil. Yeah, part, stone, part metal. It's Michael Dorn Gargoyles and they name him. Maggie Moo. Round ice cream place the name in cold stone. Name Him Him Robin Baskin Robbins Rally. screenplays can only assume that cold stone creamery did not exist. Liz what are your Go-to? mixon's at Colston creamer I can't even tell you the last time I've been to an ice cream place. I can't eat dairy. I can eat ice creams. Most ice cream places. Don't have a dairy free option. You should go to Isis plan and fans. They always have one. That's dairy free, but almost always every time I've been there. It's been the German chocolate which is, you can use the base though for anything. This is good condo for our worldwide listeners. My local ice cream shop and it's delicious though. I thought it was really interesting that this is the first time in a wild that we actually see deluxe in Dimona. Working side by side like it's always been like Dimona off doing things, and we know that deluxe kind of like behind it. A little bit are helping her I'm not convinced I. Feel like the EB and flow in when their plans and plots coincide, then they come back together, but also they're evil separately. Yeah, and sometimes they were too I. Don't know I mean. Their relationship is so bizarre that it's really hard to tell it's frustrating I. Think a little to me that in general like we are a full season in, and we're still just as confused about their relationship in yeah, working partnership at all that because Dimona will openly say kill all humans as she's standing next to this dumb, it's until. we've also clearly seen her as capable solo villain. Right that doesn't need this human guy like if her plan is to conquer all humans or run the world, or whatever her dumb shit plan actually is YEP assessment killing goliath crawl out of that dude's butthole. Now you know, go fucking kidnapped the president or some shit. I don't know she's just so obsessed with Goliath I. Don't understand God is one dude. You think he because he's around. You're going to fail at your plan well. It's because she's tied any plans that she has directly to the other gargoyles right like your plans are just to fuck with the other gargoyles. You don't have plans of world, domination or whatever? So Dairy Queen Wakes up and Dimona jumps up in his face, and she starts immediately spouting off about how glide is a race traitor, and it's like Oh for fucks. Sake this again. She trying to convince de cue that Goliath has been seduced by the humans beliefs and I mean he's definitely been seduced by human. Something of you know what I mean do not mainly as China. It would yeah. We're talking about dream boats vagina. Goliath likes the glass and detective. Dream Boat have a sexual relationship. That's the bit here. Thank you. Just in case. Any of our listeners to be left in the dark. What confused me even more when she's trying to be like he betrayed. He left us all to die then she's like you are the way you are because of him. Bet You literally just made him. Be This weird hybrid thing? Yeah, that's you. How is this goliaths fall at all that you guys brought him back to life right? Q was dead. He didn't need to be woken up. reanimated I have to backtrack a little because we forgot to mention deluxe is very important line during the. Right Right It's. Like Oh, my God really, and then he just. I always wanted to say that. God, Damn Deluxe I know. Totally stepping out of himself for a minute, which is fine. It was funny, not really deluxe his character. No I'll let. Not The jokester. I guess he had to have his fun somehow. So back to dairy queen being, alive Dimona leads into a mirror and says this is all Goliath. Fault that you are cyber oil and if he just sat quietly for fifteen seconds to think about it, there's no fucking way that he could buy into that right right. He's been dead for a thousand years. And the first people he sees Dimona and deluxe. Glances nowhere to be like right. He should at least be questioning this logic, saying like hey, just so like I get it and you get it, but for the humans in the room. What the fuck are you talking about when you say? Could you spend on this theory? And who the fuck is this guy? Well? She says this is my human servants. Funny. Face. So mad argue with that. Though is doing what she wants. Yeah, whatever that is yeah. I always just want more from Dimona going back to before d. q was really. You know, she says your science in work, my magic and work like our plans to destroy the Gargoyles, for whatever reason and also by the way that's not deluxe is plan, but anyway like. How was this a better plan, right? How is reanimated q a better plan than again using the Gargoyles to have? Yeah Yeah I, don't I literally. Don't understand what the purpose of this is other than it's cool. It is cool, even talking about it and shit talking it now, pulling apart story like this episode. But? It doesn't make any sense. No, it doesn't when you sit back and think about it, but. Cloud sounds bad ass, and he's voiced by Michael on Dohrn so now. How did they get his stone? They did not explain it. I have to assume that it was broken up. Pieces of Gargoyles were broken years ago. They just sat there. They were never moved. Okay, yeah, like unless you're just like gathered up all these pieces and just been holding onto them for thousand years. We don't know her story. Don't know her, so we don't know if she's actually had been frozen for a thousand years or what and again if Goldstone just paused for a second and been like. Okay goliaths betrayed us by going after the Vikings. Dimona you alive. Are Any of them alive? He doesn't know that they were frozen for a thousand years. Right Colston doesn't know shit. Hold Stone Use your brains of the scene ends with a classic Darth vader new. And we moved to the mean streets of New York City. And Matt's back, yeah, he'd been gone for a couple of episodes for was he in last week's episode, was he in the locker room I think that was him in the tiny white as. Shit when his booty, yeah, well, he's going to check in on the guy that was robbed at the top of the episode and dream boats like I actually don't want to do my job. I'm just GONNA hang out out here. You go talk to the victim. He was like wait. What are you doing? She's like I need to gather my thoughts. Like. What the fuck you get your ass in here. Come. Do Your job with me. That's okay. No, what never mind? In Matt goes inside when he's out of sight, Dream Boat Radios Goliath on her little lapel mic, and she says this thing picks up. Everything and I laughed so. Because it is a microphone. That's what they do. She's like what is. This technology is astounding They're discussing why this shopkeeper stays open, and she gives a a really solid response. Can I play that for you? Yes, please. Why does that man keep shop open? He could be robbed again. Why does not leave? This is a neighborhood Goliath. The big markets won't even come here if he closes the store, people will have no place to buy food. That's more important to him than hiding in his own little castle. This made me wonder is Goliath, unfamiliar with the idea of a community no because I mean, his clan was his community like they had their clan that they worked then with the humans together in that castle, they were a community. Yeah, he's like Oh. People can help other people I feel like this is where the gears are starting to turn in his brain of Oh I'm not just stuck guarding my people. is a real thesis statement in this rate But? I thought it was really interesting than talking about food droughts. You know that is a major issue that happens a lot of cities because she said you know. The big stores refused to come to this area and without the small store these people would starve and look at Disney talking about how inner city stuff works ninety five. Yeah, before they can get into it anymore over the police comes code three and we got st go. Do you think code three is Cyborg? Attacking Times Square. His. I'm curious Police codes. Is it times? Square Times Square Times Square. Times Square I. Don't know. Please just keep saying I've been once a quote. The response in the United States is used to describe a mode of response for an emergency vehicle. Responding to a call, it is commonly used to mean use lights and sirens. So it's literally anything and it's also called a hot response. That's lame. Dream Oh and Matt show up two times squared. Get the scoop from officer Morgan. Aka One of Dream Boat Sexual harassment. Victims from the last episode Aka Goliath as a human officer Morgan, who knew he would be making so many return cameos so absolute chaos going on fuck had a police cars there I'm so worried about officer Morgan and his case with internal affairs and should dream. Even be talking to him like he doesn't have his union rab. Is there a restraining order? He seemed totally chill. I guess so. I guess he's good at putting on a front. Will you know he's staying strong? What are we talking about? Something going on in Times Square. Okay, why did Dimona? And Deluxe just have him go buck wild in this place is to draw out the other guard. Rules like again. They pick really odd ways to force them out. I feel like I would say yes, because as far as I remember. They still don't know where the gargoyles lives. You're right. Yeah, so D- Q. is just wreaking havoc in the middle of Times Square and the two detectives Matt and Dream Boat that go out and confront him. Guns drawn and I could not help, but think y are any other police officers out there with their guns out. I don't know the scene is surrounded by cop cars nights going and. No one is standing at the ready. You know hiding behind doors guns. ow shouting through a megaphone nothing. They're just watching. This destruction happens. Shit is crazy. more robotic gargoyles again again and I like how Dream Boat doesn't know what this thing is, but she knows gargoyles real and yet her first instinct is immediately to shoot this thing. Yeah, so. D- Q he doesn't care. He's not aware of his surroundings. Now let's happening and who these people are, and what these flashing lights are, and he instead decides to lift a car over his head, and he takes aim at these two cops with a car. Yeah, like you said they start firing at him and they know robots. They've tried shooting robots before. Matt is intimately familiar with trying to shoot a robot. And it doesn't work. nope, in this doesn't work rather just goes. And before we see what happens, cut to commercial break. Shall we do the same, yeah? hunky hero and a fantastic leading lady brought to life with love and loss just past indulge in radio drama filled to the Brim with romance, laughed at wonderfully awkward moments become with a new relationship and don't forget those delicious sexy parts that make romance novels. Ozo- fun to enjoy season. One of eleven last is available now at calamity, dot, com, or anywhere that he can find podcast. And we are. Back and we're still in. Times. Square Times Square well. Cold Stone is about to do his thing by Goliath swoops in and stops him I mean he just fires from the sky like a bullet. Yeah, he slams dairy queen, and it kind of has the same effect with the car where it goes flying towards detective friends. smashed. And I missed what happened? Did goliath immediately go check on dream bow, or did he throw some punches I? See Slams into d Q., and then the next thing. I saw I was typing typing was a him checking on his lady love, and she is like what the fuck is attacking us. You know I guess I was typing notes. There's something 'cause i. don't think he. He quickly gets to dream, but regardless of what he does. He doesn't recognize his friend yet. He's like it's another robot of deluxe is no. No, that's not what he says she asks. What is this and he has fucking nerve to call dairy queen, an abomination Oh, he. Dare you sir. I was shocked by that. I guess because it's some weird hybrid thing, but so how the fuck does he know right? He is obviously part, flesh, part, steel, or whatever medal isn't always flesh I guess mean I'm just yeah. Why would you call? It doesn't abomination not any of the other Romo. Goals. Robo goals that he has fought over the last. However, time works in the show because he is specifically trying to hurt. His words as weapons to be fair kind of works to the. Goliath as being an asshole. Yeah, so dairy queen, he immediately recognizes glides, even though Goliath does not recognize him, and he does a dramatic point. He's like you and a Goddamn laser cannon popped up out of his arm and takes. How what do you think are the rules to this guy's robotic parts? I don't know because. One. Dimona and deluxe have been like all right buddy. Let's give you a low down of what's going on your body like I know you feel differently. Things are changing. It's okay to your body. It's it's your choice by the way. If you fling your arm this direction. A laser pops up maybe like you flex a weird muscle in your arm. A little arm Boehner. Arm Boehner. There's a really cool hand to hand combat seen here and win Goliath in D. Q. Get up close. We get this really cool interaction here. Let me play this four. Oh you. You. On My. New are might big Schreyer. So dramatic so much emotion, Oh God God your notes. It does have a very bucky Barnes, a all my God. That makes this even more shit this episode so good right? Yeah I'm GONNA have to. Watch just for funsies. Yeah, so major end of winter soldier vibes here Yes to warriors once close friends now fighting to the death. Yes, that's one of my favorite marvel movies. BTW Yeah, it's definitely I would watch that any day of the week, so these two are fighting in the streets like nobody cares dream. Oh, doesn't care Goliath doesn't care. Nobody cares if people see them anymore, okay does. Not was so do we not care that? The entirety of New York City knows now. Because a flying fuck! Hell is happening in Matt. It's just like. What is? FUCKING Because even the GEICO was like no, I did not only robots. So, all of this explosion happening and I guess they happen to be fighting right outside the movie theater that the oils, are you? Know the old timey movie theater in Fucking Times Square. find out that they're watching. Bambi. Yeah, they're watching Bambi in a movie theater in Nineteen Ninety Five, the is located in times cubed next though sense, but they hear all the commotion and the explosions Winded Bam I didn't know. Bambi had explosions or something like that Lexington says I mean. I've never seen Bambi again, but is I mean there's a hunter right like someone shot. At least Bambi mother dies was I believe it was the first case of Disney murdering someone's mother. They really don't like moms. And Disney don't like mums. It's very rare to see a dead dad and Disney. It took them a long time to be like. What if we just didn't kill the barons rave? The MOM turns into a bear. She she's alive survived. She's awesome. That is really interesting that frozen. They're both parents and they didn't start out. Did they died in the move? Anyway. So we go back outside from the movie. Theater and Goliath is fighting, and it seems like he's losing. D Q. is about to pull a ban on glide. Just fucking. Break a moment his knee. And then suddenly, a flying hubcap shows up. I love that band. Flying up cat flying hubcaps. It's the brogue oils man. Broadway is pissed. Did you hear that line delivery now? Whom down. Yeah Broadway fucking steps up. He slowly has been. I think he's had the most character growth this season like he just started as the bumbling Pudgy. Let's just talk about food all the time. When and then it in this position will yes. That was like the first thing he said. Obviously, but he's not just that gargoyles anymore. He's got raging. Who does I think ever since the gun situation? Oh. Yeah, he's been fired up. And Brooklyn is fling in these hubcaps like a goddamn pro. Pro Hubcap slinger. I guess I. Don't know though it did make me giggle that it pretty much worked. As a boomerang. Another one like there's one like it didn't just like smack in the way that the other one day like one kind of like loops around. Like, all right got that boomerang action. Put some English on. It gets that span. Yeah, he should I guess join some ultimate Frisbee teams. You should do. He should take his Harley to his ultimate frisbee tournaments and. What else did he do? This scene is so great and it's getting crazy I. Don't know if you notice the look on his face. He started to look like a PTSD survivor like suddenly doesn't know where he is or again. It's like Bucky when he'd starting to yes, come through. And he's got cybernetic parts dairy. Queen is the winter soldier he was told that glance betrayed the clan, but he's looking at more of his rookery brothers right and I mean I'm asking how they can all be betrayers, but Q. is like more people to kill because you betrayed us. How is that your conclusion here? How Mona brainwash him that quickly so very fast. I know she's good at what she does, but damn instead of being. Oh, that's weird. I thought everyone was dead, and that was the betrayer, but you are my friends, so I should just go ahead and kill all of you. I'm curious if deluxe has any sort of control over him with his cyper parts like the way that he does the full robot robots I'm. GonNa Guess. Yes, so maybe that's part of it. Maybe I mean. We cut two of you of the situation from his cybernetic I. It's not from his i. what we see is Dimona and deluxe watching the fight. Play out on screen somewhere, but it's from D. Cues first person view. Yeah, and they gotta be somewhere really really close by. Maybe they're in like. The maturity van kind of thing standing around. That's what's so weird. Yeah because I do immediately show. Yeah, we cut back outside and then they show up. Like deluxe is in his iron man suit. He's got one of his iron gargoyles, whatever they're called I guess he just has always has a few ready to go because they destroyed to age of Altron. Factory built into his I mean that's his tower is thousands of feet tall. That's true. Space to make robots it's it's in literal outer space. It's so tall. Goliath tries to tell dairy queen that he did not betray their clan. They were all betray. Look, here's some clan here. My friends, your friends. We will all tell you Dimona shows up and all God there's another great deliver here. Goliath is so mad and check this out. You told him these lies I lived for my client. They died for you. Could you hear the rage in his voice like he gets caught up in? His throat was very guttural. This episode has some fantastic line delivery I've really does so Dimona, says Goliath that they each have their own clans now, but she wants the true Gargoyles to survive, so she has to kill. Go is no. You're not letting. Them have their own clan. Has Racist. Undertones the true gargoyles. Very like Harry Potter mud blood kind of situation, not good look. It's more race traitor. Shit, you win against your clan, so you have to die right gross. She's not even saying like Oh. We're going to take them out. She's like D Q. Take out the trash. He is not opposed to it right. It's I don't know man that. I mean I guess it makes sense for this situation. He is confused Dimona kind of imprinted on him, because gave him life. Yeah, it's very confusing. News and Goliath suggests that perhaps instead of continuing this fight. Maybe we should all just chill out basically saying what I've been saying for weeks. There's only a few of US left. Why should we try and kill each other? Which is logical and obviously go fights when he needs to fight, but in his heart of hearts he's a pacifist. His is unnecessary bullshit all the time. Yeah, I never goes a looking for a fight, but he's a protector totally. Well on top of all that, then, of course, a news vans have to show fake news van. And dream boats because they still have their radios on dream boat radios to like. Hey, maybe you should like. Move it along. You don't want to be seen even though you're being seen by everybody. Yeah a little too late, but okay I. Guess You know not everyone. is in time cube right now, so okay Liz. Yes, they don't WanNa. Be All over the news and my first thought was how the fuck are the skies of New York? City, not swarming with police and news helicopters. Yeah, it's nuts. They just get the fuck and fly away uninterrupted. We know there's a Goddamn News helicopter, right? We've seen it. Matt is friends with the Guy Yeah. It's so silly! I kinda wish we had seen more. Matt's reaction to all this. That would have been Nice, but whatever? That's fine, but like it's too late. They're going to be seen regardless, but I guess one of those people has have over the shoulder camcorder right? Yeah I mean there in times cubed us. What people do their Torres Yeah? It is nineteen ninety-five. They probably got the little poem. Tape Yeah Dude. There's no fucking way that there's at least one hundred separate people in this crowd with their little camcorders videotaping all of this well, regardless Goliath is like. Hey, guys. Perhaps we should move it along. We don't WANNA keep destroying deluxe city, and like yeah I. Mean That's a fair point I'm kind of sick of pain to have all this all the time. Let's go elsewhere him Goliath. That's really smart. You very quickly was like yeah, but at to Moan is not like you know. Of course she's not. Here's the thing that frustrates me about this. Yeah, it makes sense that the robots and the cold stone guy has like the cyborg. Thank you has the blasters and they can just push away. Yeah, but Mona. Blast off with them, was one of the Robos holding her well I did see she wants to keep fighting and deluxe puts his hand on her shoulder. Maybe he grabs like. Maybe. I'm sure that totally wouldn't rip her arm. Right out of socket or anything because he's got rockets for. 'cause then you see the other gargoyles doing their Klein up the building thing. Yeah, you know. And I appreciated that they left that part in instead of just assuming that I mean we all know that they can't fly, so they couldn't take off, but they didn't want the audience resume. A goal will help the get back in the early. Motherfucker shot up. And doesn't matter because they all fly away and we cut to another commercial break. Cool, let's do that. Yeah, I don't have a good transition, but we're going to fly away to a commercial. Yeah, WE'RE GONNA. Climb a very tall building in glide on to. Diane. Remind me to get Cherry Pie filling do. A. Come on, man I told you I don't even like David Lynch. Yeah but you've never seen twin peaks. You might really like it. You never know there is absolutely no way I'll get into that show and I'll prove it okay. I'm intrigued how to watch every single episode and Co host a podcast where we discussed all the ways in which I can't stay in the show. Yeah, that seems counterintuitive. I hope it's funny. At least you bet your Cherry Pie will be. Funnier than that I hope shot up. Subscribe to the Black Lodge complaint. Department on Apple PODCASTS, or wherever you get your podcast and check US OUT AT CALAMITY CAST DOT com. We just slid on down to a smooth landing from that commercial break was saying how airplanes are good at slightest. Well. We're not an airplane where gargoyles. You know. Maybe there was a slide on that building. I know what I don't know. Perhaps there was a slide. We're. Tower. And they finally bring Hudson in on the action, except for he is like A. I don't think I'M GONNA. Go because WHO's going to protect the tower Jesus. Christ, Jude. Why do you fucking care about the clock tower right now? WHO's why does this matter? My question protected from whom right they are with the bad guys right now. The only get one villain group a week. Okay, then we shop at a bridge I'm guessing the Brooklyn Bridge. I don't know the names of the other bridges either so let's say Brooklyn Bridge. Let's go. Go somewhere to cause less damage. Oh, how `Bout! We fight on this really important bridge that is necessary for the people of New York to get to place to place remember when they went to statue of Liberty and it was at night, so the statue was closed and there wasn't anyone around. Why don't they just do that again? Because I would have been repeating an era, we've already been in fighting done. Go to central park a big open space. Find there on a suspension for I. Mean I know why because it was a cool setting early logistically for the story? That's a weird place to go. Okay they make it there and they realize it's before. Dimona and deluxe have shown up. Yeah, they don't have time to formulate a plan. No none and now they were there just a little bit early enough to immediately get attacked like they would've been basically flying next to them. That's how quickly Dimona in crew arrived. Did I make it up. That one of them made a comment of like Oh. Why couldn't we've been fashionably late? Brooklyn says yeah. It made me giggle music. It's like drop kicked by a robot. For everything gargoyles has been fucking up the season or being weird or like being inconsistent. They do some amazing aerial battles. Yes, those are always the best, and this one is no exception. This is phenomenal. So Brooklyn goes after Mona looks. Right I mean he's had some punt up rage for episode. Snell lambs are into the bridge and she just goes bouncing like a fucking ball. It's great and Goliath obviously being the captain America of the situation has to go after de Q. I know they're at the top of the the bridge and Oh. There's great exchange here. Can I believe this for you, please? It's it's more captain America Bucky Barnes. Action Rabbit type of action. You're a dirty bird. Hurt you. Removing around a LOT LEXINGTON HE takes out one of the Robo, goals. They always fall for that. Yeah, he's got really good at destroying the Robo Buoy. Yeah, he does the nearly fly into a wall, but then I pull up at the last second trick. Yes, works every time. How has deluxe not fix that flaw? He's seen it happen every time. From Afar deluxe seeing this because he's in his Red Robo, suit. He's a God deal when I forgot again. I keep forgetting to download updates. and Broadway bravely attempts to take on deluxe. Doesn't go well, no. But he tried yeah. I can't remember exactly how it worked out, but he attacked deluxe and ended up in front of Deluxe, and then deluxe fired some lasers, the laser's hit the cables of the bridge support, and they just neatly imperfectly rap Broadway. Center is limbs from his body. As they flailing wildly, they just capture him. Yeah, he's just stuck there and. Liz. Deluxe starts flying directly into Broadway blaster out as though he's going to melt Broadway's face even though he's the one who always like I, want them alive, but I guess if it's between you, dine or them dying. He's going to pick that, but Broadway is already tied up I know. Malone yeah, go after Lexington or something well, it's a shame. He didn't. Because LEX fucking soups down and smashes that stupid red iron ironman suit in the ground, causing a massive explosion in melting deluxe is flesh inside lexus done. It was an epic way to end and in real life. Yes it this way in his helmet POPs off. Yeah, and it just Kinda like roles. He goes ear unscrews it like a cheap wine bottle. They probably was starting to short circuit and he was a fuck. Get it off. Get it off. So he manages to save his face. Goliath and D.C Hugh are continuing their battle when somehow they knock each other over, and they go tumbling into the partially frozen river. We in our second d'arthur. Ones from the Brogel Jesse their their man sink into the battle hymn. All My god Goliath has the most luxurious hair underwater was pretty good underwater hair animation. I wish like fuck you. Alex middle of like a shampoo commercial. So, they are sinking and this is another direct winter soldier moment. Goliath is like sinking. He's starting to pass out and he's reaching out to grab. His Hand God has wants his. Q. Is you think he's GonNa let Goliath drown at that moment. He remembers his sense of duty and honor and. Reaches, down and grabs Steve. Any hauls them to safety throws in back onto the bridge. What are we watching right now now? Gargoyles and I'm okay with it, boy. So how does the winter soldier and? So, we're backup on the bridge. Dimona jobs really wants to kill and deluxe is like hey, I don't kill. You're not the one in charge here. It's obvious she's trying to kill all the remaining gargoyles in Deke was like. Hey, you said we have to kill Goliath, so we can quote survive, but if we kill Goliath and company, there's two of us and Kim Dimona breed with a half guard. Oil Is Dick, robotic or I don't know. Let's the important part I guess kill five. Gargoyles so that, too can live can't make no sense. And he starts realizing the. Then he strapped back into the chair in the mouth guards put in and the Doctor Star electrocuting his brain, so that he forgets, and it starts all over again winter soldier again. Okay A. Go on. It's becoming clearer and clearer to him that Dimona is manipulative. None of this makes any sense. She's like I. Don't give a fuck if it doesn't make sense, I'm doing what I'm doing and she takes a shot at Goliath antique. Jumps in front of the. She's save his best. Eight so good and he gets knocked off the bridge again. We assumed to his death. This is when it turns into civil war. Yes, the tables turn My God I have to assume that not the end of him, but if it is the end of him, what a cool character that we only get twenty minutes of I can't be I. refuse to believe no, it cannot be. We're not there yet, but so glides jumps into the river to do the civil war reversal in the meantime Dimona takes aim at the brogue oils, yeah! Okay, we've said plenty to her plans. Make any sense, but they are by deluxe. And we don't know his plan either, but he says God dammit I want Gargoyles. Alive Dimona. You're not listening. It's been thirteen episodes. We don't know why he wants them alive to put them in. His is upstate. New York retreat XANADU. To hang out and my upstate resort zero do really great is just got skiing I mean they got a bowling alley. Mountain Lake that we can go swimming. God guys. It'd be so much fun. Guys who would be so much fun winter right now, so it's cold, but I swear in the summer. Let's go. It's beautiful. Guys, access lonely. He just wants friends. We will use one OWEN ZANA HIM FUCK! Oh, and he wants his Gargoyles besties. He doesn't have Derek Anymore, does he? We don't know Derek even though we just met Derek. We didn't just meet him. He just met Derek in the previous episode. Not In this one, so we assume that Derek quit that position. After probably. Derek Yeah so thanks deluxe. Yeah and this is win. Bronx in Hudson and dream boat show up to scare off the iron, clan or whatever. The Steel Dragon. And yet again deluxe. She's like God damnit. Dimona were growing and just snatches her and flies off. Sly Away as you mentioned. Goliath returns from his swim empty-handed. We don't see again in this episode, but because we don't see dairy, Queen Die Right I am willing to make the claim that he is just awaiting his return on a short downriver. Yeah, he's got a little campfire. He's fine. He's fine fine I mean. We saw the police shoot a bullet at him and it just stop so demos going I mean we've seen her. Get shot by laser and she fine. She does is she'll disappear for a of sensitive and come back, so I'm confident that Deke will return he better. I hope it's not like indices, three or some shit like that. You Know God. That'd be forever. Who? Well and that's the end of that battle from there. We go back to the clock tower, and Goliath has a line that or less, the thesis statement for the entire show point. Yeah, so let's take a listen. Okay, this island. Manhattan. This is our castle. From this day forward? We protect all who live here. Human, Google Alive After this very solemn moment dream boat, Aska at if he needs anything. And the answer is yes obviously. I need a detective. For what. To detect this Dick. They have sex then so I found it really interesting that he didn't say he wants to protect all of new. York City specifically said Manhattan Yeah. All the rest you boroughs, fuck you. I wonder if he doesn't realize that there are other. The rest of Y'all have your detectives, your police and whatnot. He's fucked. But Manhattan you get us well I mean. A lot of people for five Gargoyles, it is so. Are they doing like a Batman thing now where he is protecting the city and. You think like season two is going to be a lot more of like individual small villains. I guess they're like. Do you think we're GONNA see more Poli serial where they're doing more individual protection versus like these big overarching plotlines. I mean I'm sure it'll be a combination of both because the second and third seasons both have I think twenty episodes. Okay, there's more episode so I'm sure they're going to have maybe a couple like long arcs, but in those longer me like the villain of the week or the week kind of situation because he can't always be Dimona deluxe. Right like that's going to get real boring, yeah! I guess we kind of had villains of the week when we had like the pack and those are all kind of because of de la dogs. Yeah, there's room. There's room for growth in the villain pool. Speaking of villains. Yeah, that's not the end of the episode they. It's not even though it should have been right. A really should have been instead. We're back to that little corner store that we saw at the beginning. We see the bad guy version back in with his gun out and the guy's like really dude again. No no actually and then he dumps out his bag of money. which like what? You like. Six months had do this. Call the cops I'M GONNA. Turn my Salvin. Because monsters told me to Q. Laugh, track and episode silly ending with the clock tower seen would have been a much more. They could have swapped. We literally could have had this scene and then have goliath explaining that he wants to protect Manhattan now I mean this scene is because Goliath decides. Manhattan is castle yeah so he's like I'm protecting castle now. you go say your salary robber guy. Liz, can we finish up the episode? Yeah okay. 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Yeah, despite some very obvious flaws totally, and I think honestly talking about it made me like it even more like I finished episode, that was really good, but I had an early made the winter soldier connection in my brain yet and things that made it like ten times better, which is interesting, because this obviously cannot way before the movie, and even before the store, really one of the original comic book storyline happened to thousands really. Back I mean obviously you like that. It did even though we started a pull it apart in some places overall very solid, very good like I keep mentioning like line deliveries. There's so much emotion in this episode. It's really great I wish I. Really stepped up. I feel A. I wish everyone could be this because it would really elevate this show. Would you say that this was your favorite episode of the season easily? I would really like to see this writer. Do More Prisoners Hotel, so you kind of answered this question earlier but I got to the end thinking with Gargoyles, parts of dairy queen that was debris, essentially that survived a thousand years. I think so. I understood that I mean I guess that makes sense, but it was laying bare, or did like you said to Dimona collect fat when she came back to the hassle. At the beginning of the show at the beginning of the series when the smashing happened. We just stop hiles of rubble. How would she even know Oh that cold stone, that other friend? That's other friends like? How can you tell I would have been a little grotesque? Port of someone's face in the rebel, but it's not like. They showed us that there were no details. There was just rock, even if she found his space, I would note that's his leg or that's his arm. Because that's the magic part of this. That's why it would be so great if they would just give us. High Swear to God, and all the Gargoyles, if we do not get a flushed out, Dimona story. Like five episodes right like I need to know what the fuck is going on. What is her background at the little tidbits? You gave us in the season. We're bullshit. Agree Bullshit. This ties into my final question for this episode. What the fuck is deluxe that we do with the Gargoyles I mean it never makes sense throughout the entire season. He buys the castle because he's curious about the curse, even though I'm willing to believe that Dimona was already alive, so he already knew that the curse was real, and it was reversible so later on in the season he wants to have gargoyles be his minions, except for clearly none of them are interested in that so then he wants them for. Steven and talk about like wanting to do like sign search on Donald Trump. Maybe kind of but for what purpose and he made. It sound like well as I have known my protection, keep y'all from being directed by. Like he's trying to make it sound like he's really important to their safety and survival which I feel like. They're proving he's not. He's in fact causing more issues not. So I don't know I think he does. Have some summer garden parties with them. I mean that's gotta be. It can't be that throughout thirteen episodes. We couldn't get one solid villain motivation. That's absurd. Let's like with Macbeth. Why was macbeth so insisting on denouncing gargoyles? Why has been the pack was obvious? They're saying they're just crazy. Macbeth sound like he has some weird thing with Dimona and he figured capturing other gargoyles would make Dimona to him. That's one of the suck the moment by if Dimona is pertinent with deluxe. And he went through deluxe to get. It's like. Why didn't he just like? Hey, buddy! Do you know her Dimona at it, can you? Can you hook me up? I'm sure Macbeth, comeback. Comeback at some point and there's too much there that they can't just leave the that be yeah I think that's the downside to the twenty two minute animation is that you get some good tidbits? But because they have to fit in so much for episode, you're never, GonNa get enough the out you know. You Never GonNa get a character study in twenty two minutes should. It got good characters. Well. Liz We did it. We finished the season finish the sees. A! Really really high. No I have very high expectations for season two episode one now and I feel like it's going to be a Michael episode in the sock. Well I mean this is proof of success, so maybe they hired small writers for season two, the hopeful, especially because I gave him a longer season. I think it's I think it's double was. Mike. Wow. Nineties TV now listeners. Like sand through the glass of time, we finished another episode of defenders of the night. Days of. Our lives. Oh, you got it okay. As always thank you to N. 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Episode 205: Oberon Sent Me

Defenders Of The Night

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Episode 205: Oberon Sent Me

"School. We are funders of the night. The most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favourite mid-nineties. Animated Program Gargoyles. Your host Daniel Williams I am your other host Eliza Circle Liz's Ercole. What is happening? Are you living player. Life Sucks. So that's Gargoyles. There's always gargoyles. Today's episode season two, episode five, the Mirror was a pretty fun one. We'll say it I liked it when we're going to get there and there's a point where I was like, oh. This is going to ruin gargoyles as a series but overall, this episode was fun as Shit I agree Liz, this episode aired September Eleventh Nineteen ninety-five we've jumped to the following Monday from the previous episode you and I were discussing off mike that it seems that they were doing four on one off. As far as the weekly episode delivery, which is weird and I wonder why I'm really curious what aired on that Friday maybe an extra Anna maniacs ooh. Yeah. This episode was directed by Frank, Parr who, hello, frank going to direct the first twelve of this season buckle up yo that seven go he's got a good run I do believe he comes back later on this is a longer season twenty six. Thanks. Yeah. So he does in modern TV parlance he doesn't entire season's worth. Yeah. Right here at the top. It was written by Lydia Moreno Linnea. She's going solo this time around citing she doesn't need Brin Chandler reaves she can do it on her own and you know what she can. She fucking nails it. Yeah. She did a great job for this one thing cited I'm so excited to hear what you know I don't know. Okay. So curious Liz now you did send me your weird weekly challenge this week but I'm postponing it fine holding off because. This week, we'd like to shout out a recent. To our patriotic family, her name is Marlene Cardozo she is supporting us and we say, Hey, hey, Marlene. Thank you. We appreciate ill. Wow youtube listener could be shouted out on defenders of the night I gotTa do is say sign up there was a dollar we don't care three dollars, ten dollars, fifty dollars lesson. That's your decision you WanNa send us one hundred dollars a month were not going to say, no, a thousand dollars you can take over the show. These are just some options. was take me to the mirror. Well, the show starts out in. it seems like it's a museum not which museum it's supposed to be, and it has poorly guarded exhibits everywhere. It's nighttime. The museum is closed and we see Dimona is across the street watching the guard turned a little sign to close to. So ridiculous do museums often a little cardboard sign that says open on one side closed on the it's just hung with twine. This is New York City. All. Tiny general store back in five like what are we dealing with here? I feel like they normally just turn the lock. Maybe they've got ours printed on the glass. Yes. Because this isn't fucking lemonades. Okay. We immediately see Dimona. Yeah. She is trying to sneak off to get into the museum where we are assuming we go into the museum and their two guards a male guard and a lady guard that's all they need and he's Laic Aright don't get too close to any of the items and she just goes off. And then fucking model poses in front of a mirror. Yeah. I mean, you know chicks right women be self admiring. They gotta take a look themselves. Hey. Am I looking hot today I. Think it's Oh. I could be like make sure my son is straight or make sure my little guard suit is straight lowered suit. And then Canadian on but no no we catch her fall on like vogue game. Yeah. She plumps up the old. The old boobs is what I was GONNA say 'cause I'm a grown man. She plumps up the old boobs. I'm married I know women I know they're always plumping up the old boobs. Oh, boy if I had the capacity to be embarrassed this my. I just had the urge to pump up my boobs pay maybe don't do that the old boob plumper. We're five minutes in and this is. What is happening? So, here's what's happening I'm answering my questions. Now, Dimona is trying to steal this mirror. We don't know why she doesn't go to lake world market or appear one import and she's come to this museum. She's GonNa steal this mirror until until until the police arrive because that's no guard that's dream boat and Goliath who I didn't get a hat. Would have been hilarious detective hat. Badge. Mitt that I did not realize it was dream boat until later when she took her hair dial. You can admit it's OK Harris. So purple and she had glasses on, but it sounded like. Oh you. Live an ear for that she's in every episode. But the literally only thing she said was stopped police and I was like who the fuck is this guard thing she is a chief of police office. So even after even after Goliath shows up right behind her, which is a second. You're like this lady who thinks she is a police officer. So. Good. What taking this whole thug it let's just the city. See me as I protect them thing to heart I. Guess like he's going to be on call for people when they need to have how'd he know to go to the him? How does he know there's a random security. Wow I got I got nothing for you Liz. So Liz, this guard was detective dream boat in disguise. Sorry to blow your fucking mind what I? Did. Not till she. Listeners. This is how you know the the Clark Kent Superman Dynamic. fucking works. You changed someone's hair slightly and put them in a pair of glasses. People will not fucking recognize. It's so true though I'm afraid that if I took off my glasses right now lives would freak out and run away because she would know who she's talking to. Have ever seen you glasses on I don't want to scare you now. So I'm just going to keep them on. Liz, who do you think tipped them off as to what was going to go down in the museum? Was it like a strict tough word on the street? Is a winged devil woman is going to steal a mere from a museum. So weird, they just know like. The museum going to try and steal a mirror. Yeah, I. Thought that was really weird too. I feel the obvious option would be somehow Zana. toews was part of this but this was the first episode was Antos isn't mentioned at all. So I really hope that he was actually part of this in anyway I've got questions about that. Yeah, and you know it's a nitpicky thing but I was just curious how would they have known about this plot? Maybe Dream Boat was actually doing her detective job. Yeah. Maybe she's just keeping a real close eye on Dimona. She has a map of all the places that Dimona goes to sleep during the day. So she knows and she's been keeping tabs I mean they even kind of emit like they're not doing this as official police work we'll. How could you? Yeah. So a chase ensues and Dimona is doing her best at trying to destroy priceless artifacts. God it. Just keeps getting in the way and saving stuff. He Yeah. But that was also my question what fucking museum like if you go someone, you'll get too close to the artwork alarms go off she just picking it up and thrown it, and that's only during the day though they turn the alarms off at night to save electricity conservation, lissome. Well. Dimona deals a spear from a display. The alarms continue to not go off she crashes through a window and she takes off she has been foiled once again ha fuck you. Dimona. So they chased after her. And then to Goggle goons appear they have. A rope that they shimmy down and the mission impossible. This year they did, and so obviously, the Dimona thing was a distraction for the real the to come and steal the artifact away. Yeah. They wrap it in a sheet and they just fucking walk off with it Liz. Yard, that is a fantastic question was I used to be a mover? Yes. You're going want more than a bedsheet to protect that glass fellas. Yeah. Listen for anyone that's moving large pieces of glass. You'RE GONNA want cardboard on the glass. Then you wrap it in a thick moving, pat. All right thin cardboard tape it up. All right. This is amateur shit. How did this mirror survive and that it was a big fucking Mir? Yeah. Like it's a full body length mirror they act like it's really really heavy. Oh, big Mir's can be heavy I. Don't know how feeds through the frame was that's true I bet it was oak yeah or gold or you just jumped from. You went real ostentatious. Well. Ancient. Carved Wood and you're like fucking solid gold. Who the mayor belongs to, which we will learn in a few minutes. I think it would make sense for it to be gold. All right. Well, fine. Maybe it's gold anyway the goons get the mirror. Yes. So they're chasing Dimona because, of course they are and she throws a spear glide countries cutting fucking everything tomato-throwing and Dimona. Then like Shimmy Zappa Obelisk and then I actually appreciated that because she's like, Oh, I can't just take off and fly after go up somewhere high and then and then glide off sounds like I was like what the fuck is she going to do up there and then she flies away she billows out a mighty. Pretty much every time she does that I just lose it. Because I've tied in my brain to the arrested development chicken impersonation. Why I'm broken but it's her curse you goliath her cry of like I've been bested again. Dimona voice. Yeah I'm just going like one thousand, nine, hundred, ninety s gangster man. It's Me Kim. Oh. Literally shaking my fist in the air. I really wish they had on video. So I questioned the whole chase scene because what would they do? If they caught her I said to myself? Are they gonNA put her in handcuffs? She didn't steal the mirror that's about as good as you're going to get. And then dream boat brings up my exact point here and I'm like Okay Fair Fair this episode of. Making some good points what are they? Are? They GONNA throw her in jail. No no no what. I can't. What would they do? Make Beth. I don't know like it's not like they have a dungeon or something they can lock clock tower like. I have no idea what the plan there would have been. You know you do you tire up, you wait until morning and then you throw her statue ass into the Ocean Oh my God I know I just took into a dark place never. No. You're right even though he fucking hates Dimona he'd be like. It's been much. Yeah. So, here is where I guess you finally learned because some people somewhere might have had feelings in some places when this woman let her hair down and took her glasses off. Yeah, I. Mean it was ready sexy such a weird trope and that's an old trope. What's even weirder the librarian taking her hair off. It's fucking weird that they put it in this children's show. That's intentional. Oh. Yeah. That's where the daddies and the MOM is out there. But also like you're so used to seen her in her jeans and her jacket. Her outfit is like a little peplum. gave her a little like her hips flared out her to her waist trim like she was a sexy little high heeled outfit and then she tossed her hair down and tenure like, Oh, it was boat. All along. Be duped by Clark Kent. And heartbeat. It's hilarious. He's so dreamy as Clark of course, I'd be like Hello Clark. Sermon he was just here. It's wild. Well, the Mona didn't get the mirror. So guess we one. Let's go home. Well from there we moved to a fancy building. Yeah. It's not a castle. This show loves to show US various castles of New York City. So I immediately assumed that this was delmonico's residents apparently likes to decorate with Gargoyles. Yeah. That's weird like gargoyles everywhere be like if I had stone cutouts of people I knew. Out in front of. The GOGGLE goons show up. Yes. The goggle goons drove there with their fucking goggles on. That's so dangerous. It's the middle of the night. Goggles so are your eyes I know. Get it. You'll cool and sunglasses at night, right? Yeah. Goggles is like double sunglasses. So they get the mirror out and they start bringing it up to the house Liz they're carrying the mirror on its back. Amateur, Shit. You carried sideways. So if you drop it, it's less likely to shatter the glass. It'll fall on the edge of the frame Gotcha. These guys have never moved furniture a day in their goddamn lives and you can tell their seats not movers. So they make the delivery. Yeah. They make a joke like look the daughter of Dracula live here, and then she just screamed growls on the other side of the door. I thought it was like an intercom maybe I mean. Yeah. But she was on the other side of the door listening to them and they're like making fun of her don't know then she could have been on the other side of the house. So she slips the money through the slot you don't think that could be automated. Nineties. Making Ninety five. No I'm cool. Shit. Yet we were all on the Internet by now I know of. Magic and We've seen a man in an iron man suit but. There's no, there's no policed. fucking cool for ninety. Five All right. So she gives them the money and they leave. Yeah, and then we never see these guys again why would we they look is they're not like her goons the. goons. Yeah. I mean when you put it that way, how is this relationship setup? Did she post on craigslist need to goons with their own goggles for mirror theft must-have van. was go inside this mansion. Yes. Hey. So Dimona has a house. Yeah. Really Creepy House. How did Dimona? Get a big old fancy mansion where's she getting money? is she investing and she has stocks I don't bonds that she a financier. Don't know what they mean. Is this big MACs house may be I mean, we know he's got multiple castles. He's rich in large real estate. Yeah. I think he's a real estate salesman guessing he actually doesn't own the castle. It's like well, they're in between showing he's just squatting. All like well armed, they have tons of lasers. Very specific clientele. He's a comic book villain. So Dimona some spells her us, how about we take a listen. Okay. Ice Cube. In Volare Pasta Park at spectrum. Tanya charring. This magic has given us a new character and is soon as this new character came out of the mirror. I knew who it was and I can't even tell you why but I was like that's that is yeah. Snow that was a good guess I'm not gonNA SPOIL IT WE'RE GONNA talk about who it is and like thirty seconds. So it's GonNa Clock Tower okay. So we're in the clock tower and everyone's awake dream boat comes in to tell everyone what we all knew about the mirror. We get some information about the mirror who's mirrors it's Tatyana Zamir. What's the Hudson tells us more about the mirror? Yes I did a clip, but this is important. It's not just a mediator loss. It's Thomas. To Tania. Queen of the third race. Third race you know Gargoyles, humans and overruns children I thought everybody knew this. Yeah. That Guy Shakespeare wrote a play about them a midsummer night's dream Liz I'm sure you didn't know but she's the queen of the third race. Yeah. I I'm so excited that we need to go into like some fe stuff and shape shifter. NELLS and I'm just so excited that the world's expanding I didn't know that fairies in dark elves or the same thing different cultures. Do you think Hudson's just fucking making stuff up help not because I'm going to take this as truth. The writer seems like she did a research on this. I appreciate it about this was how much the Gargoyles were like I thought everyone knew what that third raise? Yeah. Come on come on even Shakespeare wrote about it and that one show midsummer's night dream. Yeah it's interesting that they bring up. Shakespeare. When I think it was last season they had not even heard of Shakespeare like Lexington was just learning about Shakespeare. Since then he has devoured Yappier Elias, Goliath mentioned Shakespeare Shakespeare were brought up decent amount no. Yes. But like the first time I was brought up was Goliath had told Lexington about this new writer William Shakespeare yes. Yes. Point being Shakespeare's come up multiple times. At this point, we'll finally really get into it. Now you know we had Macbeth there's questions I have a lot of questions we'll get to that. Yeah, this. That's Good. So. Very fucking ferries in this universe, and I'm so excited. Okay. Dream Oh gives a little chuckle. She's like shape shifter's fairies water my stone by day dragging by night friends talking I know there's no. And then Hudson's like. We exist and she's like, all right. I think she literally forgets that they're not normal I'm surprised that they just didn't do like a sight gag where all of the Gargoyles slack jawed just turn and look at her like you fucking getting the arena. Okay right. All right. So now we're back into Mona's house of horrors and she has a fairy prisoner, and this is when we learn it is puck and it's pucker midsummer's I. I knew it all along and I don't know much about William Shakespeare the ferry when we first saw him looked a bit more feminine to me I, think the faithful do them. Yeah. So didn't even click a my brain like, oh, that could be the famous trickster puck. The character from real world was that season four real world San Francisco. Now you know what I know you're looking at me, you don't my references never mind. I never watched the real world I was a little young for it listeners. Much older than Liz. I mean she acts like we're twenty years apart sometimes the way she looks at me and like okay grandpa go back to bed. There were three very long years. I guess. got. PUCK. She's got them wrapped in chains. She's got herself a little fairy prisoner. What she going to do without it doesn't matter relieving, and this is the first part of why I had a hard time with this episode. This road is very guilty of the thing that I hate so much the balancing back and bouncing back and forth ten seconds here. Then we go back to the clock tower we're going to go. Back to his house, we're going to go back to the clock tower and it's all very fast. So I like to sit in a place Gimme like three minutes. Yeah Man. All right. Well, the clock tower was that's were there again Brooklyn thinks that shape shifter cool. He's like Oh man you could it would be so awesome shape shifter I thought it was really cute that like Broadway was local our friends and find love. Little Romantic. You just wants to get his dick. Don't speak of him in that way you just you know he's trying to get laid. Broadway's like Oh God. It's been a thousand plus years. All right and he can't fucking jerk off while everyone else is asleep because sleep at the time. That's why he's going off to the movies by himself. Yeah. Sure. Westerns are fine but he needs a little bit privacy. Okay they also talk about the wouldn't have to hide. If they could transform and I'm like you mother fuckers don't give a shit about hiding and you haven't for like fifteen episodes they like half asset but most of the time they're just flying freely above the skies are nobody looks up in new. York City. Bronx fuck and ran down the middle of Broadway Street, not the cargo. We'll have to figure out more about their feelings regarding shape shifter's later. Because again, we're moving on back to Mona's house of horrors since puck is a Shakespearean character. and. He is real what she that means for Macbeth is that actually then Real Macbeth? Yes cut that was like, okay. I feel like this kind of cements the idea that Macbeth is real macbeth and I brought it up before I think that Macbeth existed Shakespeare learned about Macbeth and then wrote a fictional play about the real man I mean that wouldn't be too crazies. All of his historical are based off English his story and all that. So why not find a random Scottish guy and write about him. All right. Into Mona's house of horrors. What does she want? She wants to get rid of all the humans Oh, that's so typical of you Dimona. And Polk was like. I'm not fucking Aladdin's lamp I have some restrictions I can't do that. And makes her look at the mirror to Dutroux desire and you see Hunky Goliath oh. Yes. She's just a jealous ex girlfriend. That's what she wants. She wants her man back. She wants to punish her ex boyfriend's new lady because a new C. Dream boat walk into the mirror scene, and then like snuggled her head against his gargoyles chest in his final snugly in cute and then Dimona just fucking goes crazy and she's like get rid of her for can't get around the get rid of her. PUCK says. Stuff, and he barks green light into the mirror. Then what happens then we cut back to the Goddamn clock tower cut at least makes sense. This cut does make sense you're right because everyone's hanging out they're just chilling. It's nice to just chilling like billings. Yes, and suddenly dream starts glowing green and and she's lifted into the air and she's transformed into. A gargoyles lady a hot gargoyles lady. And this is when the. Of every dude standing there as pushed aside by a sudden and massive gargoyles erections and we get Boehner's to commercial I mean like, did you see goliath mouth just drop who's a today? Listeners will be. Long. We'll jack the gym loving male nurse Hoti managed to win the heart of Funky blue haired web designer. Maggie. Join us just got her if this unlikely pair will have their happily ever after or fizzle out in the end. Of, season, one is available for your listening enjoyment now. CAST DOT COM or anywhere you find podcast. Welcome back everyone we are defenders of the night. We are covering gargoyles season two episode, five Liz what the fuck just happened. Well, that would've been five grown men Gargoyles just getting Horny as hell just. Everywhere, like they didn't know it was going to happen. It's like. How Judges Aches, so she's wearing their spill, just a gallon of Elmer's glue. Just. Like to say quick shout out to my wife I know is listening. You're stuck with. Her outfit tight jeans that are low Hong. The got some nineties low gene action going on. She's wearing like black tank top. That's belly belly-baring basically what she was wearing before somebody impelling burying. Word her jacket go where did her jacket go? Now I was wondering that myself had to sex are up I mean they could have kept the jacket though whatever it's fine. We're trying to get these dude gargoyles off. It's this whole thing. This is like one of the Hornets episodes we've had a while he's probably a reason why it's my favorites and the. Boy. So. This is just proof that gargoyles can wear pants. Yes. We here at definitive I have been talking about maybe it's just me more than Liz but the idea that these gargoyles have been living in New York City in modern day for call it a year in nothing but loincloth. Now we know you can fucking put pants on a cargo ill I didn't pay attention to her argyle booty. Did she have a tail? I did notice that good question. Maybe the tail is more but if you have a waistband of long cloth, think the lifespan of the pants be figured out the same way. Yes. It's just a giant Dick as the problem. Real quick back to these costs. Can you just imagine flying around New York? City? Time of year with your Dick just flapping in the wind. Since chilly. Who does seem chilly I don't know maybe it's just liberating maybe I'm just too uptight. Maybe. So we are at Dimona House of horrors because this episode can't sit still talk. Let's Dimona. Know that the spell totally worked technically I of that human detective Dream Boat Correct. He's very literal. Yeah. There was a human named detective dream. Boat, and she no longer exists and she doesn't realize that he's doing finger quotes every time he says the word human there's no more human air quotes I'm saying out loud. Do you like he wants her to know? Yes no no I hear you. You did exactly what I asked you and I appreciate it. We are going to be best friends and then she's like great questions I trust you implicitly everything you're saying. That humid has gotten. That's awesome. Awesome. Awesome. How about we do that too all humans now he's like. Really. Hearing what I'm saying when I say there's no more human. Dream, boat. Ceiling where we can't do this here. Let's go. No, I gotta we gotta go somewhere. Sad we'll get. All. Right. So we're back in the clock tower. Yeah. Dream Boat thinks that glide is one who's been changed and he is very longingly stroking her wing I. Don't know if you notice I did not notice that she's talking. He's just like touching her wing and he's like willow wait no, no no no girl. You're the one who changed not us. We've always been gargoyles. Remember ask you dumb beautiful. You are typically a human lady Goliath and Dream Boat coming side, and he attempts to use every woman's weakness against her Liz. I'm sure you can relate he tries to use logic and reason. Am I right or am I? Right? FELLAS I five What's up my rose? dudes. Chicks don't get it. Back opens more bro Skis. Listeners I'm kidding I. Know You you. Exactly people who don't know is a bad joke and I knew what I was doing. So he does try to use logic and reasoning with her though, and it's like think back what happened the first time we met each other she's all I was falling and you had to save me He's like, okay let's think about that. Okay. If you had wings, why would I have to save you? Can't use my wings to glide. And he's like, okay and she she realized she starts screaming and really able is here like my wings don't work that way. Okay. We don't all have perfectly glider wings dude. So glasses like okay but you can. fucking beeping birds out of the nets. Kick. And he does hold onto her and he doesn't really just fuck it though off. But that's hilarious. He's like, no, you could probably now you can. Oh my God gives of the boot right off the clock tower. Burning her. A? Yeah. But he does go with her and then we cut back to what seems to me the Twin Towers before we get to the Twin Towers, he knows she's never flown before yes. She doesn't have the muscle memory because he watched her turn from a woman into Gog oil woman right? What makes him think this? She just knows how to glide I guess a gargoyles logic because if you think back to when Derek became gargoyles he. Leapt off the side of the building. And all the other gargoyles humans were like wait. Can we do that too? And they just jumped. He had DNA. That's true because it makes a difference. No, that's an excellent point that should still be wrong also. Yeah I. Think I made that comment back then to the also jumped off the tallest building on the planet in that episode million hope I know what I'm doing work muscles I've never had before God okay. The Twin Towers Liz you mentioned something about two towers yeah. I was pretty sure that was a dollars. I was like. It makes me a little uncomfortable every time. That's a prominent thing in the nineties New York thing. This is where pucks gotta do something with the satellite dish in his magic like well, I can use like amplify his so it can reach everybody is what I was thinking. Yeah I wonder how he knows how to mix technology with his magic and it doesn't matter because we're done with the scene. I gotTa Rica fool the magical. BITs. So that leads us back Tick Alliance and Gabrielle Dream, boat. This is it Liz. Oh. I got this is when the show gargoyles almost ruined itself. Yes or ever suddenly Goliath longingly injury dreamily looking at dream boat and I never realized when you were human how beautiful you are you mean you thought I was ugly. Careful updraft. Yeah. They've been building the whole fucking romantic subtext for like fifteen episodes like your job Dimona like that. The moment that you sow during both maybe you were like, Oh, a human she's really beautiful and I also love her personality and she's so loving and caring and all that stuff, and now you see her in your form your like full-blown look like me maybe that no, I don't believe it now I don't believe it either and it throws into this episode a weird kind of like racist. Subtext of Oh I. could never see a human woman is beautiful. But now that you're gargoyles even though she looks essentially exactly the same now that you're like me I can find you attractive. That's fucked up in weird. Yeah. Lies Goliath fucking lies. Yeah. I am appreciating how much he is swooning over her even more. So but I was just like dude, don't fucking pretend the last season plus of Shit didn't exist I know the romance isn't the main part of this but like They, play it up. It's their fuck you this episode I mean this bit right here I almost shut it off. I was like I don't WanNa Watch. The rest of this I don't care how how it turns out but I have a responsibility I have a duty to our many many pal go hills so I powered through but just let it be known that I thought that this scene was fucking bullshit until then she grows you thought I was ugly and he just goes ooh. Grumble confused I can't answer this question sounds, and then I got nothing for you is this is absurd. Well Trim boats like wow, flying is so cool. Why am I not doing this shit like every day of my Gargoyles Life Goliath. Okay, we need to have a chat. Yes. Because she apparently still not getting. So, they flap on down to the rooftops and they have said jet dream boat is freaking out because she says, it everyone on the streets are humans. And goliath just like he literally face. WHO's like I don't know what I gotta say to this woman she is not getting. It's good thing you're so fucking hot. Wings because You Ain't got much going on of stairs right hot stuff merit sweet cheeks Dream Boat. Oh I forgot to mention that the other gargoyles have been following them right like they took off just the two of them but the rest of the gargoyles they land with them and Hudson look across the city he sees some kind of green magic late over there on top of the Oh, the twin towers again. Yeah. Dot doing that you guys. Crack, opened another brutal. ooh Boys Jesus Christ. So we're on top of the Twin Towers and Puck is doing more magic shit. So let's take a listen to doing magic. Human John this concrete I'll Dimona find your presence fire shall do. As I command and to be not woman child the. amplifies his magic with a satellite dish. Listen. I'm not a space Sala Gist but I'm pretty sure that's not our satellite dish works. So we're back over to I, guess where the Gargoyles. That we were there. Now we're here against watching the big flash in the sky and they'll take off towards it. It must be Dimona. Fuck Shits gotta be Dimona. What if it was deluxe magic is typically Dimona. Magic from their side, they Dec- green light it could be deluxe. So they all take off and dream boat is like. I guess. I'll just stay here guys because she got too scared to jump off the building. Also. She has zero flying experience because lady you've been a Gargoyles for half an hour and Goliath think to grab her. He was trying to baby bird burner get like she'll fuck it figure it out was go boys. So we're back at the Twin Towers Daniels having fun today is having fun today Dimona wants to just like hit the town now that there are no humans, it's entirely unoccupied because all the humans are gone she's so excited i. Want to go see my city like fucking boring without be feel like I am the ruler of that brick and that streetlamp and that is my empty car. All My fucking boring aims. Dimona have man this shit I'm sorry. Any well pucks to sleepy so he doesn't want to go. And then Hudson just. Like Football tackles are over how did he get there the fastest scrappy old man I wanna be a Man When I'm an old man. I'm GONNA carry around a sword and have everyone just got no it. Just sort guy that's old sword man just walks to the neighborhood carrying a sword in her anybody. So we let him do it. I want to be that Guy Liz dreams good. I'm glad you have dreams. So the other gargoyles fall up. Classic this is Classic Dimona? Classic fucking Dimona her reaction is Oh, I'm just going to throw the mirror off the building and take off the other direction we've seen her do it before I thought she was going to throw the mirror and then dive after continue on kind of thing. But now she goes the other way she's like this is the thing you want. And this runs off. It's go move. She did it with the bugging norcal Borkum. She's doing with the mirror now. So and then other typical google. Fashion Hudson defies physics and falls faster than the mirror and saves it. Yeah. It was thrown seconds before he left after to catch it it's not possible for him to have caught that. Right so he catches, and then we go to the mean streets of New York City was had street level. Dimona is getting the shock of a lifetime she's never seen so many fucking gargoyles. She's A. She's like the city is littered with covered top to bottom left to right in gargoyles. Where did all these gargoyles come from shooting? Anybody. Because she seems angry that there's gargoyles there where he thinks she'd be like, Oh, I could probably get these gargoyles to clean me as their leader much easier than humans. We are clan folk. It seems like the gargoyles typically group together in some sort of fashion I don't know I think she's just a she's alone will. You. Bet Wolf from the pack couldn't be a wolf like that. Single human sight. You think that's enough right. Right but she still looks pissed Liz. This is something I don't even understand how the artist intended to work, but she folds her wings around Puck who is she is holding onto and she flies into a subway platform like she flies down some stairs to a subway platform. How does one navigate with their wings wrapped around them I? Don't understand what the fuck why don't you just walk down the fucking stairs. All, the other gargoyles are walking on the fucking stairs. Well, she's fleeing she's fleeing our gargoyles friends. Yeah. What are the mechanics supposed to be here to allow her to do that? No idea she really looks like she's like the mentor gliding yeah. Yeah. She did and see Broadway didn't know that he could glide like that. So when he goes after her he just crashes because he's bigger, maybe his wings hit the side of maybe I couldn't quite figure out what happened there but he just toppled over he face plants into the steps and looks to camera and gives a comedic like what are you GonNa do look directly to camera Which doesn't normally happen in this show. And then behind him glide lands at the top of the stairs and walks down and you gotta think the glass just looks at Broadway like why the fuck do I bring you along. Your fucking embarrassing me in front of all of these new gargle ill friends our new. Pal around us, and this is how you act your fucking embarrassed. So here is where we see. Dimona, immediately, adjust to her new surroundings. was ridden many subways before she like every New, Yorker, I assume correct me. If I'm wrong, New Yorkers jumps the turnstile and gets on a train and the dudes can't keep up their lost in a sea of Gargoyles. They're like we're never gonNA find Dimona Broadway says, it's like trying to find a needle in a haystack in motherfucker. This is the second time in our shows run that I've had to say, no, it is not. This is not a fucking needle in a haystack. This is like trying to find a very specific needle in a stack of needles. Now you're looking at me like I'm insane. Just love the random things that drive you crazy. And this is when for reasons that I do not understand lex designs to take the opportunity to describe sex it's too weird. Kind of fun. But weird with the Mona involved. It's more than weird. You and everyone I've ever met Liz. Reason? He says, what he says is because there are a couple of lady gargoyles stop to dislike scope out the boroughs. Long clouds going old fashioned. I mean it could be because they're handsome gargoyles gentlemen or could be because they're standing around and nothing but loin-cloths in leather belts. and. You GotTa figure these women are like Oh my God these homeless men they couldn't even find enough scraps to make clipping those bodies. What are we doing here? Everyone else's in suits and regular clothes. These women are definitely like. There's some nearly naked men's. In the middle of the subway platform. The business cargo looked so sad they hated everything about their lives. Let's move to an alley. The whole thing is that listen to Mona doesn't like being tricked and I feel like puck should have been able to know that he should have been able to read that from her body language and her speech like she's not one for fun. Now, all he kinda pretty much calls that out it doesn't care though no, he does not care. He's GonNa, make it his own funds. True. She doesn't want all these gargoyles. She wants pucks turn the gargoyles into humans gun. dammit. She does not learn. No. She does not learn that you have to be very specific in your request to puck because he's going to find some kind of way to exploit what you've asked to be hilarious to him. Yeah. To cause some shenanigans. Yes. So we moved back to the rooftop. The guys have their mere and they're talking about puck and looking for Dimona. And then just as Goliath is floating I don't know why he's floating but he's always flowed. He's floating and flirting with dream. It'd been for a long time and he's still acting like all baby come on over here. I could teach thing or two about thing or two, and he's a dream boat. I will always be there to catch you and then he turns into a human and plummets he died and. We're GONNA take, this? Tragic. Current blueprint. Thanks for listening help others find our show by rating and reviewing on itunes checkout calamity cast dot com for even more content and follow us on facebook twitter and Instagram to get in touch and let us know how we're doing. 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I mean that would have been funny because Dimona would have been a human as well and she got she would hated that she would have hated that but he just chose five. He didn't even turn dream bow back into a human. Humans Gargle. Let's just talk a little bit how they look I. Mean aside from Goliath who can't help but be handsome he is fucking hot none of a handsome group. Yeah. I. Mean Lexington looks like a child. Yeah. Like he looks like he looked like a ripped baby and we'll he looked like young Peter Parker like in the new spiderman movies Broadway had unfortunate hair and did you see his? Over the I bush, these eyebrows were like an old man who has given up. Yeah. He just has hasn't like dopey caveman mostly does he looks like a caveman you're right I mean the loincloths aren't helping no. Well, it's interesting because I still look strong like he's barrel-chested and all that. But he lives holding her laptop like up to her face he won't get the picture. Any bigger. Lurch. Trying to burn it into her memory. I will say though that Brooklyn and his long white hairs kind of working for me. And you know it's not typically your type so He looks cool. Boy Than I thought he was though he's GonNa have some fun in the bed. Lincoln and grant. He's like we're GonNa have a fun time and then Hudson. Looks exactly exactly the fucking same and you know what? That's kind of what Ed asner looks like really yeah. He kind of looks like human. Okay. This is our human crew Goliath is like why did I fall? I've never needed wings to glide before, which is a sentence in idiot would say what are you talking about? I guess part of it is like, Garg, Oil Goliath is fully gone like his brain only things he's ever been human he has human memories but he has hints of things like. I can fly, but I'm a human does he think the? Gargoyles can't fly or see think everyone can fly regardless of whether or not? They have wings. Right. That was a dumb thing to say, but they all seem very confusing. Let's hear them talk about it. Wait a minute. We must've used wings. How else could we glide ulysses right? We're supposed to be gargoyles. We're not everyone else should be human, but thanks to Dimona puck. The not it's like forgotten. Then immediately remembered when someone else's like no. When he talking about yeah I, I remember Demon Puck now I was messing with you guys. Can't fly off I. was thankful that he did figured it out much quicker than dream. Boat did because if we had to go through all that again. Yeah. The weird twist of the memory that has just given up on almost immediately, and that's kind of silly realized they had had a Lotta Shit to get through. Yeah. Like we could waste time on this or we can just move on. So let's all right. Well, let's go back down to the mean streets of New York City. So Dimona figures out the truth of pucks most recent spill. What did she think was going to happen I don't what did she fucking your expect? She's the real dumb one here. Yeah. She's planning kind of dumb in this episode impulse. I come on. Donald Look I did you a favor? This isn't bad glance to puny human. Now, you've never been bested by human before you could take him out. She's very excited by that thought which confused me because before she made it sound like she wanted dream boat out of the picture. So she could have goliath back and now it's like, Oh, I just wanted to destroy go. Well, she's got unclear motivations. Yeah. Does she want to rule the city? Does she want back at her ex does she want to kill her access current? She's so he's jealous. And Power Hungry and Horny just depends what mixture of that you get at any idea that I have that exact same combination. That's the combination that allred heads have. We move elsewhere in the city and this is where we see that gargoyles apparently fear humans. Yeah. Because some innocent bystanders ca group of nearly naked men walking down the street and they take off I would do the same thing if it was just a bunch of nearly naked men walking down the street, it'd be like this is not how we behave in polite society serves by. That's how I exit A. Scenario. Good Day. I will return with pants for all of you. And they're not concerned. Like Hey, these humans need our help look at them these stupid animals. I questioned the idea that humans are known thing in this backwards world because if he turned the tables, humans would run away because they are seeing an unknown if five gargoyles started walking down the street humans are like what the fuck is that thing I think that's terrified I think it is supposed to be still be that mentality because they're later called monsters. So I think it's still like, oh. My God was his unknown thing. It's like if you and I saw a werewolf, we would recognize it as a werewolf even though we were like. That's not supposed to be real thinks out. Okay. Goliath and company and go looking for the lowest point in the city to meet Dimona in battle because they're like, she can't use her wings down here on the ground whereas I am like wooding you talking about, she'll just climb up and then fly but okay guys. Liz, do you remember when this mirror was so heavy that it took to Goggle goons to carry it. Well, at this point in our story, the old man Hudson who is an old man and a human has it under his arm as he sprints through. New York City because that's what to say Hud Sani strongly no, he's human. He's a human man under one arm like a school boy who was late for class running down the street. All right. So they run to the United Nations. I'm just making a guest here. There were a lot of flags on front of this building and in front of this kind of courtyard area and the United Nations will go with were so many flags it was way more than six flags. They get outside the United Nations, and they pulled the bedsheet off of the mirror and Dimona and puck just come flying out like a bullet man how does this magic work Liz if you had to speculate where they summoned? Pulled in I was really curious about this. 'cause I use is a transportation device. The use of the mirrors station Hook, use it as a transportation advice, but he like jumps into it and then. It didn't like close up on itself and then reopens elsewhere. I don't know how that would work at what did they travel through to come out of the Mirror on the other side. IDEA. but this is where the cool fight scene happens. This is our fight scene. The episode did you like this fight scene? He did it was fun. There was there was definitely some fun stuff. There was dumb stuff too. But I, appreciate how different it was all the other fight scenes. They're humans and she's the Gargoyles did Dimona have a laser blaster the whole time and I just didn't notice it because she definitely has one in the scene but I did not recall in sitting here recording with you'd still do not recall her having had one at any other point in the episode maybe she just has stashed around the city. I'm going to speculate that they went to castle vern and she went to that hidden compartment that he has in the courtyard you know from like episode to push the button and suddenly out of solid stone. Laser Gun. To she starts off this fight by missing the one thing that she should have been able to to hit hedges goliaths chest I mean she's got plenty of experience aiming laser blasters at him but she misses I don't think she has a great shot. She doesn't have great aim ever. Will you know what? Because she's an ancient dragon woman? She's not used to these guns there happens to be medieval weapon shop right behind him. Yeah. That's it's in the courtyard at the United Nations there's the medieval weapons emporium the laser that missed him broke this glass instead and so they could grab some weapons shit just starts like it just flies out of the display that was in the front of weapons. and. Glass arms himself with a sword and a shield and she says I know you no matter what your form. Goliath. Okay Yeah real fucking great detective work there. The big dark sexy broad one Duh else in the world as far as we know is gargoyles now who the fuck else would be genius. Okay. A very distinct sexy voice. Yeah. Also, he's voice what did. She pulled Eliza that didn't matter. Like. He's not wearing normal gargoyles glasses. Liz puck is fighting with the Bros. over there and he's like making a party out of it. Time of his life. He's having fun. The Bras have outfitted themselves with medieval weaponry and he's like you know what? Snakes flowers. Now I'm fucking magical. You idiots what are you doing? He turns all their weapons into goof ups. Yeah and then bronx comes out of nowhere. He's still just a Bronx I didn't even think of that like why is he had to like quickly change him into a doggy Also where the fuck did bronx come. From. took him that long to climb down all the clock tower steps it'd be police please. Okay. Okay. Free and then just has been sprinting from wherever the clock tower is. Also, he knew where to go like this doesn't make sense, but we overlook it because. We liked him. Yeah. PUCK TURNS BRONX INTO A regular vicious dog instead of Gargoyles dog vicious which he immediately was like that was a bad choice. So my question is, why is puck? Fighting. Them I. Think he's just having fun. He's think he's enjoying it. I wasn't sure if if he's technically still like Dimona is his master right now. So he has to do kind of that was that was part of it or who? Mischief. It's probably a combination of the two. He doesn't get to be in this around very often. Yeah. He's like you know what? I'M NOT GONNA kill you. I don't want to hurt anybody, but we're having a good time I'm GonNa make this big giant sunflower attack you. You're wearing a sunflowers a mask cut back over to Dimona is about to crush Goliath skull with her bare hands and she's jumped by the pros they all attack attacker they got. And they've got the upper hand when suddenly Dimona got gargoyles backup. Yeah. Those bystanders from earlier or another not having these monsters attack such a helpless lady who is armed and clearly dangerous we must defend her honor. Yeah, I. Mean weren't they terrified of humans just a couple of minutes ago. But now they want their own being attacked in the half to help poor innocent lady. So they get there and the browser like Oh fuck oh fuck. Oh, fuck and Brooklyn is like guys I. Think we're monsters. Let's show the Munsters, which is something they've done before. Yeah, and so then. There were just like. Hey Mon STU. I'm very scary in the gargoyles bystanders like, Oh, my God. Yes, you are. Never mind could sirs by. because. That's what they do. All the GARGOYLES are New Yorkers like transatlantic gentlemen. All right. So to Mona's about to blast Goliath. Until she gets fucking drop kicked dream Oh God my favorite fucking move that any gargoyles does it's it's the fucking. It's like the sergeant doke surprise motherfucker they just go. Just. fucking. Drop kicked out of nowhere and you know why it works for Dream. Boat because she doesn't Cook. She flies in, she does fucking silently just. Ask Her detective training. That's the detective training coming in she fucking Batmans onto the puck and seen. As it again later she's like you didn't learn your lesson you dumb. When he's coming into a battle. Come on just a little bit dude dogs like. Here comes. Goliath. You're half a mile out we. We see you coming. You're very loud stabbed the LA. So she does the sergeant dokes and then there's a not at all hot fistfight between dream in Dimona. I'm just saying it's not. There's nothing about it in the Horny is devastated of gargoyles today. This is a totally normal. What is up with this episode? And you gotta wonder if glass is like, do I stop this Boy Dream though in Goliath tag team Dimona and. G Way Possible. Fucking as He gets tossed forty feet into a plate glass window like that is deadly for a human I know they're gargoyles and so they're strong but he's still a big dude and just throwing him like a sack of potatoes like it's no big deal he goes. Yeah. Some force behind it. Yeah. DELMONICO's in for the finisher because I guess dream but it was like Oh shit wait hold on and a it's Ok he's rescued because. Dream. Boat fucking. Takes that blaster. And here's what I don't understand. She shoots the awning above Dimona and Goliath demon like going in for the kill and knocks out Dimona right doesn't hurt Goliath. Yeah. Okay. She's knocked out I. Don't know aren't you shoot her as his sick had show and please not shoot fishy a police officer as a Gargoyles I wonder. I mean you're right. Thought the police, but I was wondering if she still has the same occupation. She. Just like showed up and Matt, issues like fuck. would be gargoyles. To. In which case I guess it's good that this police officer did not shoot to kill. Yes. Hey good for you. Jabbering about you know what point being Dimona been taken out and then Hudson just like sneaks behind what the fucking trash can trips puck and publishers like I'll like he had no dug in this fight really yes he was just like, okay. Fine Fun overbites over it just ends. So comically. Liz from there we moved back to the twin towers and in exchange for fixing everything goliath offers puck his freedom. Yes. So puck fixes everything and is freed. That's that the episode starts getting wrapped up really fast here, and then from there we go back to Mona's house of horrors. Okay. So confused I was to how did Dimona get the Mir back? Is it because it's actually pucks mirror I think it is pucks Maher. Okay. So puck. Probably actually had control over because he's in this universe plane and also has his freedom. I think he kind of do what he wants what he wants to fuck with Dimona, some more. So there in her attic and puck is like, Hey, I had a lot of fun. This is a good time. Let me repay that she. She's like get the fuck out leave and he's like he gets really offended. Yeah he makes a really mad face. You Mo-. Well everything I've ever heard about fairies is like you don't WanNa fuck with them. No, they're playful until suddenly they're not and I think he crossed that line there like she was so rude and ungrateful and Blah Blah Blah I use a game on pitch Oh you wanted to be flesh and blood during the sunlight hours. Remember that's what you wanted. That's fine. That's what you get. That's going to happen for you. You're welcome. Bye and just disappears he magic some shit and he disappears and we cut to clock tower as time for ninety nights. We didn't see him wake up Goddamn it. We're GONNA watch them go to sleep. The dudes are like, Oh man we were humans could have seen the sun. Ming me so sad. Lads. I. Just wish I could've seen the sun once in my life and I was like, Oh, party, we could just watch it on. TV. This steam glide dri mode and things like that aren't dating there. What could have been? Fuck you hold on here. Okay. This I actually had to have a I disagree with you on this one because Goliath was trying to say something positive about them and she stopped it because she didn't want to cross that line. And now we're back to normal not be able to have what she wants and what she wants them and I think he's feels the same way you were suggesting that they aren't already relationship whereas the past fifteen episodes we have been firmly in the belief that, yes, they are a cup. I think there are a couple but I, don't know that there are a couple like you know when people get like that. Sometimes you know I don't. Okay. Fine. Surely someone out there understands what I mean. It's like, okay, Lake Chick Talk. All right. Mr. Angry, that they're not in a relationship, they are in a relationship. And we. Know. So we go back to the Mona's house of horrors. This shit. This was good. Saved all the stuff that I had issues with before. This is a major turn. Yes. Liz Dimona is basking in the warm glow. fucking happy. She's like looking out. She's like he did it puck took care of me. I'm seeing the Sun. It's so warm. This is amazing and then she walks in from out of the shadows she walks by the Magic Mirror which puck left behind I wasn't sure what that was just her regular you know what? Get, to okay. So she looks she looks into this mirror whatever this mirrors. And she's a fucking human. Turn Jesus Christ why twist and she loses her fucking mind I mean we knew that wasn't a twist because puck Dick had. We knew that's what he was going to do avi but the idea okay. So is she? Or is she human during the day cargo by night? She never stone again? Does, she sleep. nope. Okay. The end of the episode is that right now demoniac. Day, she's a human personally, but we'll find out hopefully. Well, lizard done. We finished episode five. We need to take one more break. Yes. Listeners will be right back. After tragedy strikes up. Nicer to come back the funeral dnd. Unite. Don't tell me what up man to celebrate the life of a friend tank. Let's see. I've until some thing happens. Now. They're struggling to survive in a world they don't understand. A. Group, they failed through time and space epic podcasts from the. Calamity cast, dropping. Off Run Subscribe to it. Beginners guy to interplanetary destruction. That's what I'm calling my penis as eight seconds ago. Liz. Elizabeth Daniel just finished a wild ride of an episode episode five season to the Mirror. Yes. What did you think of this episode backing? Who's really good even with the relationship and the relationship thing really fucked me up in a in a way but faulk was so fun. It was so fun I really liked this one lot. I also even really liked, yes the relationship stuff a cyber even when they were both gargoyles. You'll notice in like A. Very horny episode. Okay. Yeah and the Horny asked about is what do you think was going on there lydia was in a mood she was like you know what I'm GonNa see what I can get away. She didn't have Bren Chandler reaves to rainer inches like Oh, this is the fuck fest. which do you like that? gargling glass or That's really tricky. Got A of minutes and Human Goliath and all you can handle. Trump. He's super sexy as Human Goliath. vk feel like the protectiveness and the leadership aspect of him as a human would almost be more annoying than hot than when he said Thir-. I know I I think I asked you an unanswerable questions. Yeah I need more human. And I might go onto fan fiction. What pitches you like a part in some of. You will find it with us. Car. Voter injuring vote. You know it was fun about gargoyles dreamed was she had her little teeth She did not she had a little baggies. responded. Put them there and I'm like, Hey, guys having fun with this character designs. Good time. All right. So one more question before we get out of here, the Dimona thing that is that's a real game changer right? I They don't stick with that that would be insane but her causing trouble by day and night I mean I, I mentioned earlier I'm worried about her sleep patterns but I mean she would be unstoppable. She could literally shop to the fucking clock tower and destroy them while they're sleeping. Yeah I. Don't think she would though. She likes having an adversary even if it is someone so fucking knowing as Goliath. Okay I will say I want Human Dimona to face deluxe. Hottest Holy Shit. Whatever that ends up being it's going to take days. Oh. Boy I'm excited for that I hope Lydia rates that up. With your rights episodes me Horny as. It's going to be gelling. So fucking jealous. He's going to be forced back into that show for. But she's GonNa do it to. Put. Data. This was a wild ride. I loved it. I hope the audience loved it to our pal oils. I hope the PAL Goyal's enjoyed this episode of defending the night. All right. Well, we've reached the end of another episode of defenders of the night, join us and thinking our friend Ian McGowan for creating the interstitial music that you've heard throughout the show. Thanks check him out on Instagram and twitter at easy underscore breezy underscore Mac. 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Episode 111: I Thought My Warrior Days Were Over

Defenders Of The Night

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Episode 111: I Thought My Warrior Days Were Over

"As the host of defenders of the night and official representatives of the clammy cast network Daniel and I would like to make it clear that we and all that we represent as podcasters in humans are firmly on Waverley anti-racist as a couple of white people drenched in societal privilege. We will never understand what it means to be black in America. Instead we will listen. We will learn, and we will grow to become better allies in the fight. Fight for equality, there is a lot of darkness in the world, and we hope are goofy show about nineties. Cartoon can bring you a little laughter during the fight, but we are by no means a distraction. Never forget that black men and boys are again being lynched. People of color are still being gunned down by police and Briana Taylor's killers are still free to put it bluntly. All black lives matter fuck raises them and fuck the police. moved. We are. The night, the most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favorite mid-nineties animated program. We have sound effect for that I. don't care was today. You and I are discussing gargoyles season one episode eleven long way to morning. Yes, this is a pretty good one. I'm going to spoil the ending. I liked it I. liked it to admit it full on a couple of stinkers before those. Yes, and maybe that benefited this one. Maybe because the other ones weren't so great that this seems better. That could be and listen I. Don't want our listeners to think that I don't have tons of yelling in my notes because I've got plenty of shouting. WOULDN'T IT BE DANIEL? Show with other? You know what shut up. But, still overall I thought. This was a pretty solid APP. was did. You know that this episode aired January Twentieth Nineteen Ninety Five. It's like they're going one a week. It's crazy. It was directed by talking. meet to camera and cut sue Terada now talking to we haven't seen in the credits since episode five. Oh, wow! Yeah, and it was written by Brin. Chandler reaves who we haven't seen. Since episode seven, she was the first woman writer on the show so far the only woman. I appreciate. It's not what is but whose ads we tend to not like Michael Reaves. Now as we like to do these days we want to start our episode by just begging and pleading are POW oils to. If they've got a spare minute headed their favorite podcasts. Give defenders of the night the Ol- Five, Star, rating and review treatment. We really appreciate it when you do that. It really helps baby podcast like us grow our audience and get to be heard by more wonderful pals like yourself and you know. What while you're there? Leave one for your other favorite podcasts. Yes, it doesn't have to be us. I'm sure you like other shows you like ours the best and that's great. That's great but I'm sure there are others spread that podcast and listening love voice spread it thin. Shall we jump into? The episode was I think that's why okay. Well I actually got really excited from the opening. Credits of this one is suddenly. We were back in time yet again, but even earlier than we had been before. You know this is nine eighty four. Yes, a castle, wide vern, we see young princes pissed pants as her father puts her to bed for the night, and she's complaining about missing out on a party, and he does what most parents do and threatens her. Yeah, that you better have good behavior or the gargoyles will come and get you which are. Racist no wonder she's a fucking asshole ten years later to the gargoyles because she grew up like this being threatened that if she's a bad girl, the gargoyles will come and get you. Yeah, I mean. Can you imagine him saying something like that? About some other group of people that'd be fucked up like that's some racist Shit Yeah. Pre Hudson Hudson comes in I'm not to not call them Hudson now. It's too late. Oh, yeah, no, he's Hudson, but of course he here's the tail end of this conversation, and it seems like he and the prince have a pretty good working relationship. You've respects Hudson a lot. And yet, he's still saying these asshole comments. Yeah, that makes it even more fucked up. This whole scene is fucked up. Because why did Hudson destroy on into the Princess's bedroom? We didn't do man, oh. Yeah we gotTa Talk. You can wait five minutes I'm talking kitten. Yeah, that didn't even registered my brain because initially I thought. The princess and him have relationship seems creepy to say no, but like have a report. Yeah, like their friends like Oh. That's her buddy, gargoyles or something, but no, obviously like she was very anti him the entire episode right so no, it didn't even register in my brain like oh him just bur-. She didn't. Bedtime is a weird I. have to my parental stuff right now. I'll do my print stuff in a minute guy. Get Out and yeah like if you rolled up in my house when I'm trying to put my kid to bed. Shirley, this can wait. Alright. Daniel we need to talk about cartoons. So. They start talking about a guy that we don't know. Therefore don't care about, but. Apparently the prince Prince Malcolm banished the arch message for some kind of attempted coup on a takeover. Hudson is upset because the prince didn't just straight up murder, the arch marriage, which seems very une Hudson like. But this has Hudson is the leader of the pack not retired Old Wise One. Yeah, I feel like this is a really interesting story. And we started in the middle of it, and that's a real bummer. Because the arch midge turns out to be kind of a bad ass, like a formidable foe, he shows up on the balcony of the Princess's room and just. Prince Malcolm and Hudson go outside to have a chat just outside her bedroom, and then the arch made shows up also just outside her bedroom any he hits Malcolm with like a poison dart, or something and Malcolm's dead by Malcolm by forever. What really happens is has twenty four hours to survive this poisoning, and the only cure to it is in the magic is book. Yeah like I said? This probably would have been more effective if we knew. The arch made previously or had at least heard stories about the arch made had some previous setup to this new that Malcolm was a character that existed where we're using a villain. We don't know about to kill Prince. We don't know about, and that's the downside to this well. My question is ten years later where we start. Start. The show princess is talking about her uncle how she's going. Go live with our uncle. So is this her uncle or her dad? Oh, that's a really good question I assumed her dad. I did too, but I've just clicked in my brain. Yeah that she talked about her uncle, which I guess sometime in that ten years. Maybe her dad, the prince died, and so the uncle. I don't know. Does that mean? There's a GRANDPA somewhere. Who is king, or maybe her uncle is the king, and her dad is a prince quite. I'm just making assumptions like her. Dad is the older one, but it could very well be. The her uncle is the older brother, therefore, the King I'm just assuming that because the younger brother has children and he'd be the you know I. Don't know I'm so intrigued now. Yeah I know right? This is the kind of stuff they hit you with. It's really interesting, and then they just kind of gloss over. I understand it's a show for children, but not all children are dumb. In the ninety s we were resist. kind of dumb because she comes out and starts parading Hudson like he shot the prince with poison well, yeah, in made me wonder. Did she think that Hudson took her dad out there to hurt? Does she know the magic guy even showed up, or she just think Hudson did this. It seems ridiculous, because really he would stab him with a short sort or something like. Why would hudson you know what she's? She's one of the demos she has. Has One of the dumb one she's like this is all your fault and I'm sitting on my couch. Like what are you talking about? And then she hits him God. Her tiny little princess fest can't do anything, but still so. Do you think that she hated gargoyles before this seemed like it, Kinda does because if not then she jumped to this conclusion and this hate that she sits with your seemingly forever right, but like I mean I guess. How the prince treats in doesn't necessarily mean he treats all the gargoyles with respect Hudson was not just like protector guy, but almost like his right hand man like the way he was talking to him a little bit, and it's true because princess. His pants later does not have this kind of relationship. Hell, hell the Gargoyles that is passed to El Capitan. Liz from there we shoot back to the present, which are past, two, thousand, nine, hundred and New York City, and we see the required waking up shot. We can't not have that in every single episode at least once sometimes multiple times in an episode. Yeah, they're shedding this stone and we see Lexington. Scratch behind his ear like a cat like a goddamn animal. It's official Gargoyles in addition to being part bat. Bat are also part cat have to assume also part rat, their cat lake behavior is becoming more and more apparently, and their feet are very catlike. I've noticed over and over again and Dimona her growls roars are very reminiscent of big cat. Yeah, I mean that's probably the the actual effect, but hurry specifically when they're fighting later on in the episode that I was like Oh yup okay. She is a cat. The breuls oils decide to have blintzes for breakfast and and Hudson. They have a quick chat. Hudson seeming introspective. I'm wondering if what we saw was actually dream and not a flashback. I was wondering because he made a comment about a dream like an old dream Yeah. It makes me wonder like I. Guess They can dream in their in their stone sleep. I didn't even think about that. I mean if they are sleeping than share. That makes me think that the whole stone thing is even harder to comprehend because. When they're killed in awakening, all the other girls are killed their smashed, and they are just bits of stone. Yes, and I've mentioned this multiple times when they wake up, they headstone. Now. Can they have thoughts if they are solid stone I mean they have brains are the brains stone, and if the brains are still. You, see! They're playing fast and loose with the rules here. Yeah, no, that's very complicated. You need the pin this shit down in your show Bible. God so many questions Liz Delight blintzes I! Don't think ever had them. They look delicious. I'm looking at pictures of them right now and looking at blitz porn. They look really fucking good. We'll put the whole thing in my mouth. Delicious. Just a weird choice for what Broadway wants to have for breakfast blends is takes some preparation man same. He was going to go like hop over to the Jewish bakery, or whatever and grab some food at like ten o'clock. His breakfast five is our bedtime. No He's got to prepare blintzes now. Maybe he made some at the beginning of the week, and he froze them, and then throughout the week ethos. He's good at meal prepping I mean. Gargle. You have to be right right or maybe dream boat. Hey, during the day. Can you pick me up some yeah? That seems more likely craving that I know. I'M GONNA. Want this once I. Wake Up. Need some blitz action Tuesday. When I wake up, I can feel it a Tuesday meal. Alright speaking of Dream Boat. That's good at her apartment. Get a gun safe. She's Craig. It's like honestly her gun safety is lacking okay. Maybe she's getting ready for her shift right I. Mean that's what kind of looks like she's looking in the mirror. She brings her gun. Who See your pen? Her Badge to the inside of her windbreaker is a thing. I've never seen a TV detective. Do they've always got like in the wallet type situation that they can pull? pull out of pocket, but that's Michigan. Open it up and flash her bad. She can flash badge among other things. Ha, boob, stuff the thing about the even if she has a gun safe and she pulled her gun out of the gun safe, she just brings it out and instead of immediately whole stirring it like a professional probably would I don't know. She just sets it on the God damn table. This is how you get shot. Detective remote literally already happened to you several episodes back. Do you not learn like three weeks ago? Lee Doing. Then suddenly Dimona arrives and attacks her. This is nuts. Dimona way you just be superintendents immediately and not even giving. She doesn't say much of anything. She just attacks in jumps through dream. Boat skylights. Just. Raining glass. How does she not get class stuck in their feet? How dream votes neighbor is not start question what the fuck is happening her apartment all the time. What a wonderful question! Girl I! Keep hearing guns going off in your apartment. Yeah, broken glass, and all these other wild things roars. Are you raw renew? Do in your free time Dream Boat. Is. This is the second time in a month. That Dream Boat has been shot in her own home. I loved about this actually was Dimona. Doesn't even like pause to see if she was successful like I poisoned you and guess what the only way that you'll be saved within the next twenty four hours. If you have your Boeing Goliath come, meet me at this place and I will give the antidote to him. Yeah, and so she's doing all this just to get goliath attention. This is crazy. Ex girlfriend shit man is in crazy ex girlfriend shit. I mean she knows that dream. Boat is one of glass weaknesses, so she does always played to people's weaknesses. That's true, and then she just pieces. The fuck out is the. Oh. You've been poisoned. God She's going twenty four hours, and then she calmly looks down at herself and then pulls out her badge and she's a shrug. While it's a good thing. I put that there all the time. That was the most cartoon thing ever like Oh. My badge saved me. That happens all the time and things I mean what a coincidence! She just really wanted to shoot her in the BOOB. Oh God, okay so dream butts fine, and we're going to the clock tower post blintzes. I have to assume and dream though is relaying literally just happened to her. You can't shake this lady. She's like Oh. I was just attacked in my home. A gaping hole in my apartment where windows used to be time to go to work gotta do detective stuff, but like how would you even? Even. Try to explain that I mean I. Guess You could have just called in sick and can't come in today. Yeah I mean. How do you explain that you don't have windows in your top floor apartment anymore? Like what the fuck happened up there? Oh, by the way captain I got shot again, but I'm fine fine fine I. Mean even if she left that part out like Oh. A panther jump through my window. I It was just a really big bird. Window just. happened. God. Nonchalant about it, and of course, our goal is freak. The fuck out. They do I want to play this interaction where she's the only sensible one in the room. Always always lucky for me. The hit my badge. What's the Mona's game this time I? Don't know, but we're going to find out like I'm okay you don't have to go. You know it's a trap. If he doesn't go now. Dimona will know her plan failed. She'll go after you again. We gotTA stop is. How Liz did you notice? She's sitting on some kind of thrown this scene. It's very bizarre. She's holding court. Their little queen. She knows it's a trap. I get that. Get that reference do in Hudson. He's saying that if they don't go after Dimona that Dimona will know that her plan failed then she'll just go after dream boat again and I'm sitting there like she's GonNa go after Dream Bill again and again and again regardless like idiots. The is trying to paint that. We are supposed to believe that the gargoyles aren't always going to be the winners in the end of the day. That's silly. Makes Sense I think it's just the over-simplistic rhetoric here. We don't go fighter. They'll know like it's. Doesn't quite make sense, except for the fact that it seems time and time again we find out that the gargoyles are either all for the revenge or the honor or the I. Know If you don't do this part. You don't have an episode when you sit and think about it like if they didn't go hunt down Dimona. Literally nothing would happen and then demoted stands around like. I guess I just let her die. But who gives a fuck with Dimona thinks about if Dimona thinks that now dream boat is dead then dream boat is safe, right? I don't know it was a week premise to get to I mean what ends up being a really cool series of scenes, and yes, and the whole chase and everything it's cool shit, but getting. There was weak sauce. I would agree with that so lexin Broadway, take dream, boat, home and. and. They're gonNA stay with her until morning. Do you have a question about because like when they're all together? GOLIATHS is like all right Hudson's GonNa. Come with me, Brooklyn? You do this you do that and they talk about. Brooklyn is still very angry. Why is he so angry at Dimona just because she tricked him, okay, I guess is one of those things that he's equally mad with himself. I'm sure for falling for her shed. No blame the woman entirely. Brooklyn now he's. He's on. Why would he be mad at himself? He didn't do anything wrong. The woman tricked him. He's innocent gach. Don't you know about like when women? How they're all bad every single one of them on the planet. Exceptions Okay so Lexin and Broadway take Dream Boat Home, saying and Brooklyn and Bronx get this day. Brooklyn gets to sit on the couch L. Knight. Time Yeah. There's actually made me really happy. He gets to chill even him. It's just like you stay. We don't trust you enough right now, isn't there. Don't trust him, but they. They don't trust his hotheadedness I think, but also. Aren't they going to fight Dimona? Like is that what maybe he was thinking? He'd be too rash because of his anger and. Make stupid choices like trying to be left in a sewer to die repeatedly that kind of stupid choice. Yeah! You're right. That's a dumb thing to say over and over and over again not that anyone would do that okay I. Think you probably equally excited about this? But I was really stoked that we finally get Hudson's episode. Yeah. I took a long time to get there, and it took me a while to realize even though he's the one with a dream sequence in the whole opening that was centered on him, but I was like Oh. This is Hudson's episode finally. Yeah, that whole areas because I'd immediately I was like yeah. It was right here I was like Oh, he's not going to sit on the couch all night. This is turn finally, so Hudson and Goliath. They do what they sent out to do. And they go hunt down Dimona and it's literally a trap like dream. Boat said it was going to be up to Mona gets the drop on them with a laser blaster how she managed to get the drop on them because they knew it was. was going to be a trap. They should have been extra focused my first question during the scene was each time we see Dimona, she has something stronger and bigger and better, regarding weapons so I'd have to assume she's still working with deluxe. How is she getting the Firearms? That was my first thought, but maybe she got it kind of earlier on before we saw her, and she's been storing stuff for stealing stuff from him. Warn. 'cause she doesn't like humans and if she doesn't have to work with them like in this case. I could see that I do like that. She has the laser blaster I like that the visual juxtaposition of Ancient Gargoyles, dragon person with sci-fi blaster from the future That's just a cool look well in like. We've said it's interesting. The Hudson is the only one who's ever armed. Yeah, and it comes very handy here. Like, he is able to use that sword, not only first Swish, swishing. He reflects the fucking laser beam. That was bad ass, Shit. He did I. Don't think it would work in real life. But it was cool that he was able to do that in this. She gets a couple of shots off like you said and immediately takes out Goliath. Yeah, it's so ridiculous to see this guy. He's only as powerful as the episode needs him to be. You're so right like sometimes. He's unstoppable and sometimes he gets shot in the chest and gets like a laser burn. There's no penetration there and then he's out. Stop it, and then he is. Out For the rest of the episode is absurd. He's definitely been hit worse and then like often was fine. He's been knocked from the sky stories down into the ground below. Yeah, and he's just climb back up Hudson. Let's out a dramatic. Dot Yes. And this is win. Hudson pulls a SORTA like you said up to this point he standing i. know like you know you're going into a fight. Pull you fucking now. Man, we do in your warrior for God's Sake I. Mean I know you're old? You remember how to be a warrior. Right Jeez well, and then from here. It just becomes like the Hudson show because Goliath is useless. And now the old one has to like defend the strong one and also drag his ass around everywhere dragged lifeless. Gargoyles corpse to commercial break sounds like a good idea where we will burn him on a pyre! We'll be back. 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Don't know it's fucking cool, though so that's what they do to Goliath here. We come to the Hudson River appropriate and we send off to the great beyond. Right, that's what happens little. I to fight has her so Hudson and Dimona are doing their thing. You brought up the laser blocking earlier before the break. This is where it happens. Listen Piss me off so much why this is absurd. Okay, let me tell you Liz. Hurley is blocked and reflected by Hudson Sword Right. which you think would just destroy the sword, but yes, he doesn't even flinch. He's not knocked back. He's. He doesn't get knocked off his feet. He doesn't react. Okay, that would be fine if the beam didn't then get reflected back to Dimona. who gets blasted off the walking roof? Yeah it hits her gun and she goes flying off in the gun. It makes an impact sound I. Don't know if you've heard this, but the laser heating. The gun makes a think sound like it's light. That's what lasers are. It's a light. Yeah, and go flying off the roof. How does this weapon work? Liz? I need you to explain it to me. It's powerful enough to take down Goliath. Yes, but not powerful enough to even caused Hudson to lose his footing, but also yes powerful enough to knock them off the roof, and also it has a beam that has mass causing an impact, sound and Liz. Do not even get me started on how the beam reflected perfectly off of Hudson's curved blade science fiction. Damn you! You have to admit. It looked cool though. Cool. But, amy very happy to see Hudson be a useful. Be a bad ass and see the champion here. You are one hundred percent correct. It looked awesome. Hudson is the hair with a day. Just give me a little bit of realism with Brandon. Little bit at least consistency in your unrealistic weapon function. Seemed to me that the gun is kind of getting the same treatment that Goliath that depending on what we need for that moment depends on the amount of strength and ask. Maybe Hudson is just like four times as heavy as Dimona well. Yeah, if you look at their sizing that sense, she's got those strong quads. She's very strong Claude's, but like Hudson kind of has like tree trunk legs. Hip Action Hudson is thick. He is thick back in the day. Sure he was a very handsome gargoyles. US quite the Goliath of this time. Something that just crossed my mind. Was the leader of the Royal Clan in ninety four. Yeah, no one bothered to give him a name. glaive has a name. He was given a name but prince. Malcolm wasn't like. Hey, you're Derek. No, you're just old gargoyles, but I have a very good relationship, okay? I've lost the threat of the story in the plot because I'm mad about all of these very stupid things, but that is actually really interesting. Maybe El Capitan gave Goliath the name. Maybe he wasn't I. Don't know I. Don't remember in these flashbacks that we see coming up. If goliath is named like among Dimona in Hudson well regardless, yes, he's able to blast Dimona way and in the meantime picks up, Goliath. This is crazy to and just scurries off. They destroy more skylights. As Hudson and Goliath jump through the roof of this building in fall. What seems like an impossible distance? They fall through multiple floors of the crash crash crash all the way to the basement of this building. What do we talk one hundred and fifty feet, Liming class already been shot, and now he's got at least broken ankle. No wonder he makes Hudson drags, ask the rest of the episode. So Liz throughout the rest of the episode. We're going to be seeing parallels drawn between the present and happen to Prince Malcolm thousand years ago, both were shot as Hudson in Goliath evade Dimona by running around a large scale model of a wooden ship in a basement, and you mentioned this was an opera house or something I was like what is going on here. What makes a lot more sense when you know like oh? That's from like an old show or something. I just thought it was. You know an old old wooden ship. And we get another flashback. Yes, so we're back to the castle waiver in Nineteen eighty-four. No, it's nine. The Catholic. Verne and nine eighty four, and we see that Prince Malcolm is actually still alive. Yeah I thought that he died. Because this is when we learn that the poison is just a regular poison, but like it's enhanced by magic. They need the antidote. The counter spelled counter spell. You know what I got a clip. Let's just listen to. Mega. What is wrong with me? It is poison made virulent by magical spell. Unless a cure is administered. You will die by sunrise. Can you cure? Perhaps if I had the grammar ECHINACEA, the antidote is given only in its pages. You 'cause this. Way were excited than I thought I was going to about baby Maga's. He looks so young and baby like I like. The the actor pitched his voice up a little bit. You know ten years where? He went through puberty. You your girl out in ten years. Let me to. This clip here is where we hear. Princess Pea Pants Really Act completely ridiculous. She goes on like this is all Hudson's fault. It's not Hudson's fault. The fuck, what the fuck! The Hudson do again like wasn't able to stop the magic man like sorry dude, and this is very much evident. Okay? She's got hate in her heart. She's got hit her heart. And that's Fred, because of things from the prince ain't shit like you misbehave. They're gonNA come get you. You instill fear into someone regardless of how else you treat the gargoyles. She's got to hold onto that. That is a very good point. She never brings up the fact that like. Hey, maybe if her dad had just executed, all arch made. Major. None of this would have happened bill and more firm in your rule man. Yeah, so we go outside where Hudson, the leader of the group has formulated a plan. I hope it didn't take him that long to figure this out, but find the arch marriage and get the magic book right I like how he calls it the magic book. He can't say the name. I can't say the name. I can't say the name either. But yeah, it's really interesting here. I found that whole scene fascinating because I enjoyed how they actually make. All the characters look younger. Only been ten years because I assume how Goliath looks now. What have been the same of when he was frozen in time, right? So I mean he aged a lot in those years he has. He's so smooth and like innocent and nice looking in the flashback. Yeah, because they jump back and forth doing these flashbacks and the lines that are on his face now which makes them look chiseled, but also seen how smooth and young he looked in. This was like okay. He went through some rough shit in those ten years that he aged that much I mean you know being a leader? Does that think of Obama remember how much she aged to the office so young being in charge ages. You like crazy. That's why I'm not in charge. My family I'm going to stay young forever. I liked the Keith David was trying to do a young goliath voice while Marina surtees makes zero effort to do young Dimona like i. feel like she was just doing same. She cement calmer like she didn't seem like hateful. At least in her voice, like yeah, she was less intense. That's true I. mean she was still intense? Because the whole time like Goliath unit takeover Goliath, you should be in charge like she's been power-thirsty bitch from the beginning crawl out of his Dick Damone Jesus. But Yeah I did notice the not only that they make Goliath look younger, but his voice was also not rough and gruff. Yeah, he's up here. He's like hey. I'm young. I'm excited about doing things. It's not like Oh, God I'm a leader will yeah. He doesn't have the powerful leader voice for sure I'm Goliath I'm happy. Go Lucky, Guy Guys. But. Can here is that Dimona is actually already significantly older than Goliath. He is a. he's dating a much older woman, oh. I think so. She just thinks that he is her bust way to get the power I mean. They! Love each other I do but she also like I WANNA be second in command. You deserve to be in charge. Why are you already in charge? Okay, so oh. My. Guess she seems so much nicer, and then you calling him ultimate for constantly saying that Hudson is old and can't do his job. Okay, never mind. Anyway, so this is when we find out DELMONICO's plan. She wants to be the leader of the Gargoyles, and not even that like she's making it sound like she wants to be in charge of everything and everyone. She makes some comments about wanting to rule the world. Yes, and that's where she lost me. Listen I respect and ambitious girl boss, Oh sure, but that's absurd lake girl. Do you have any idea how the world works like their governments and militaries and That's where she lost me a little bit league I understand the Dimona wants to be in charge and wants to rule something by come on girl. You're smarter than that. The idea of wanting to rule the world, and then rule the humans, or whatever is just it's. Not Plausible. During this cat and mouse game that they've got going on Dimona is like. Hey, I'm going to be in charge of the Gargoyles and you all swear field e to me and they're like. No, that's absurd. We don't like you. Yeah, and this is where we learned that. She doesn't WanNa be the GARGOYLES litter. She was to rule the gargoyles and as she. She says later on the world which can't express enough. How stupid that is! The the world is terrible everything with Dimona. We get a hint of what she's thinking or what she's planning or what she has been through, and it leaves us with more questions than answers. That's true and her character frustrates me because I feel, she could be so much more. They're never gonNA. Let her I know, but I just feel like they rely too heavily on this lake. She's a power, hungry bitch and she's the bad one. I feel like they're really missing an opportunity of developing her better. Yeah, it would be interesting to see her side of things in one of these interactions like her actual feelings and thoughts on situations. Instead of just us. Viewing the bag is to the lens of Goliath and company. Anyway, that was my little tangent. So what? What happens next Hudson and Goliath escape? She starts sweeping across the room. Room with the laser blaster, just blowing everything up and Hudson Drags Goliath out a window up industry level, and then they make their way to the sewers where I. Don't know if you knew this lisp can't fly in the sewers Dan, you can't even glide which depending on whose writing this. What the Gargoyles will say that I feel like delmonico's big flaw is that she always underestimates the gargoyles. Specially always underestimates Hudson. Because, he's old. You see yeah, very old, though that is GonNa. Be Her downfall in this I think I mean it is. We know that already, but. So they're in the sewers, and they just start chatting about. Hey, remember all that shit. Let's flashback as crazy. Let's talk about that. And I guess because Goliath is like burly functioning right now. That's the only thing that they really could do in this like. Let me keep dragging you. Let's talk about this thing that happened two thousand years ago. It's like you see in a movie when someone gets shot and their partners like just hold on, and they start talking to start. Remember how you only you're gonNA open that Deli you going to retire, and you can open the Deli in Newark. Just tell me more about that. Just talk to me. It's like remember when Goliath want an open and daily work. That was all I just made that up. That was really good, right. Yeah and I. Think this time it was Hudson being like. Don't worry buddy. We've been through worse. We've made it through and let's look at. Let's speak in great detail. About the time with the arch marriage, which takes us to that time, the mates, okay, so we're going back in time. Go back in time. Back to the future. So, the trio of Dimona Hudson in Goliath they pretty easily find the trail of Archie. The Arch Midge well Dimona. We I see her just crawling up glides, asked about Oh you should be the leader because Hudson's old, and you're young and hot near the new hip guy. Is Like House not the time we are busy, we are busy and Hudson can hear all those. Like this fucking bitch, he's just looking over shutter. Like screw you. I'm sixty five. In, Gargle years I'm a baby. This is not the time Dimona we are doing something. We're on a mission and trying to figure out where to go and what to do. We are at work. We will discuss this at home, but we get to see that Hudson has some great skills like he is a good tracker. Yeah, I mean he is, but also I mean you can spot those footprints from a half a mile away. But he had the inside of like. Oh, he's either trying to trick us or he was in such a rush that he was trying to use speed instead of stealth. He has like he's working through these different things. I'm like. Oh, he's being a leader, so Liz, they follow arches footprints to this crazy hideout that has got which is either in exquisitely decorated cave or underground museum, and being that you are our resident expert in Scottish carvings. Perhaps you could explain what these giant statues are in this underground. Underground, wonderland well educate me, please in my expert opinion. It has to be regarding the history of Magic Oh in its entirety all of the histories of all the magic. Okay, all right. That's why it so intricate. It's a visual history book so to speak Dimona like gasps when she looks at one of them in a hotel, if it was a gargoyles or a person, but like someone was getting a staff like right through them I think it was a gargoyles. I think the hand, little little wings maybe. Also the history of humans and gargle interaction. Yeah, it's where that they really gave this. I was very confused. Yeah, and it's definitely missed opportunity, because where are they? What is this really cool place this? She just seemed too easy to me. It starts out with some carvings paintings on the walls, and they go farther in, and then there's these huge like statues carved into the walls of what ends up being gigantic cavern type situation. Yeah, it looks like Druid type stuff. Maybe history magic is exactly right. I mean you're the expert I. I don't know, but it's there inside of a mountain core Nellie deep deep underground. They could've made that so much cooler instead of just being confusing space, and they get to archie, and he's in fucking castle gray skull like you mentioned just this giant skull shaped building with fire in the windows. It's amazing and we just pay it no mind. Yeah, there's this awesome stone building deep under this mountain. But we gotta fight a wizard, so we won't really get into that. And then archie shots at some weird spell shoots fucking laters out of a book. The what's how does magic work in the show? However, they needed to as most things. Yes, damn cartoons! Well! It's just interesting because I'm assuming that this is the book that that Maga's has ten years later. Yes, it is the Greek Ringel Larkin Noricum. Yes, exactly that. We never see him to cool things like that. All he does is turn people stone. Yeah, his book doesn't shoot lasers. It did have a cool light show when they first turned the Gargoyles to stone, I just assumed that was part of the stone spell. Yeah, I mean I guess the different spells have different lighting effects. Which is dramatics? Yeah, anyway, and then we go back to the future like the movie I mentioned earlier. Remember that movie yeah. Goliath this. He thinks he's on the cusp of death like I. Don't understand. He's boohooing nonstop this entire episode like just leave me. Leave me, he's got what is essentially a very localized sunburn, and he's weak and maybe he's thinking Oh. I can just wait here by myself. To turn to stone to heal, or does he think I'm dead I? mean if Hudson leaves him. He's dead because Dimona will just run by and the shoot him in the face and keep into. Get Hudson right because she's on their tails and Hudson's like for the last fucking time do come coming with me. Shut up and I'm like. Thank you, Hudson, we've all been shouting at our television screens for glad to shut up about this like. Oh, just leave me, so you can save yourself when well? And I mean if you're Hudson and your leader starts talking like this. You're like wow. I made a bad choice thousand years ago now this little crybaby. And he's. He's just allowing Hudson. Drag Him. He's not even trying to walk on his own Olympic. He was shot in the chest Liz. How's IT affected his legs? I don't get. It doesn't make any sense hop here. Big Boy, loincloth and fucking do something. It'd be pulled up his clock. After you kind of have to? Keep pulled it up. Huge gargoyles balls flop out, yeah. So, don't pull it up to highs arms. Keep it covered. Do, you think they've got like a diaper type? Situation Sewn up in their like underpants. Are you think they're just free ball and Scottish? So you think it just be free ball and that's a fair point through. So they've got their dicks flapping in the running from Dimona and she finds them yet again because she is really the one that's good. She has them cornered in a real fugitive situation. You ever see the fugitive. who was this reference for their clearly referencing the fugitive in this children's? program. That doesn't have a lot of adult crossover I mean it was for me twenty five years later, but at the time. Why did they bother? It's great worked perfectly. I- Hudson's like I didn't kill my wife. I don't care I. Mean Dimona said I mean. She checked every hen house every outhouse every doghouse. She found him. Was We're talking about the fugitive, because Hudson and Goliath dive off of A. Why is there a waterfall in the sewer? What is happening here of new? York City. This is the second inexplicable waterfall. In the show we're only eleven. Episodes in this series is discovered and waterfall. Maybe to the writers New York City is like butted up to vast wild nature. And how far they travel, because they went into the sewers and like Brooklyn. Liz Hudson and Goliath dive down a waterfall, and they're rescued all of the fugitive, yes, and. got nothing else so I think we just need to take an ad break because this is while I, appreciate it I, love it. It's nuts. We'll be back. Hey there listeners? Are you into male bad ass, leading ladies, and happily ever after then checkout another great calamity cast podcast Dick the week where I chat with my other two co host everything we love in sometimes about both writing and reading romance novels, so grab a glass of wine. Get comfortable, and let's get down and dirty about romance. Find It on, calamity. Dot Com wherever you find your podcast. Let's go back to that Scott Cave in ninety four. I was GONNA. Say BBC but it's not eighty. It's AC DC. This is very cool. Fight scene between the trio of Gargoyles and archie the arch marriage and what I liked about it was that he is a formidable foe. What I didn't like about it was sometimes. He needs to say the spell needs. Needs to shout his spell other times. He doesn't sometimes the lasers come from his hands, sometimes the book. Yeah, and maybe they just wanted to mix it visually. I thought it was inconsistent. Maybe it's like once you say the spell once you can just continue using it until you're done or maybe this X. amount of time that you can blast the book whatever? I don't know this whole scene was really cool visually, but it was like five seconds of a fight, and then they won and. A little too quickly. This guy is fucking bad ass, and like because they like moved to the side, he just tumbles in down and dies. We'll see a ranged fighter in the gargoyles are close up fighters. Someone's. They got into close. He was done and I guess that makes sense as soon as the Gargoyles were closer to him. Obviously, they're stronger. Yeah, this is. The book was removed from his hands. It's not like he can continue to blast them. That's true. He'd seems like he did need to have the actual book. This is not Harry Potter rules. That is actually consistent to earlier when Dimona had goliath. Goliath under control. Yeah, she had to have the book enhanced for him to listen to her so I. Guess It is a decently consistent. Yes, you have to have the book in your hands in order for these smells to work impressive. So as you mentioned. This fight goes by very quickly. Archie gets through Hudson antimony. You can't stop that youthful swagger of a young Goliath, he he manages to knock the book out of his hand down a conveniently placed chasm yet, but he is quicker than physics, and he jumps down, and he catches it, and then just scary is back up the side of the wall. As he does all the time. As you mentioned. He steps okay so so funny. Archie comes running with a stalagmite or tight. Could you tell was? That a tighter might originally I can't tell because he was just holding it sideways. That's the job. And then Goliath just like you said earlier glances sidesteps them, and he just rose right off the engine that chasm like a. Cartoon character. And it was that moment when I was like really it was easy. Something should have happened like he should have tumbled into. Dimona like almost goes over and catches the edge because he has claws, and he just keeps tumbling like I. Feel like it should have been at least that this was so funny. I kept going back watching it. Like, a rag doll just over the side, it was so hilarious. Well all right. You fight to win I mean I got blasted by magic, but I'm good. Let's go get blasted by magic, and literally nothing happens to them. Yeah, but Goliath gets hit by a one laser and is shut up Liz okay. Got Him Out Because the still manages to be a good episode is a good I know we're. We're hurricane on the not so great things for this episode, but overall. It was a good episode. Yeah, a lot of it has to do with this insane that we're about to get into the cemetery. The classic cemetery showdown Hudson is literally dragging Goliath into a mausoleum and Goliath is still just let her killing me man game over man game over, and we're like. Oh my God, get over it to. Do now you can tell that he's that stereotypical man like e with the slightest hint of a cold and you're just like. Me? Over at this point, yeah, usually just fucking. Stay here. You'll be fine. You just need to make it to sunrise, so he starts going on and Goliath is all. You can't. You can't do it alone and beaner. You can't face her. Because then Hudson replies notes. y'All I can face her in the dramatic pause. I just can't beat her and then scurries out to fight, and you know glow. Know with that attitude cuts Jesus Chris. You're almost as bad as now. You're selling yourself short about to find out. You're a fucking warrior. Yeah, some dramatic music plays and he goes out to phase Dimona he thinks this is a fight. He can win and he's GonNa go down swinging, but I would say that he wins this fight. We're not there yet, but. I think the important thing. Here is the amount in the flashback. They kept talking about how he's wise. And like yes, he's older, but like that gives experience, and he thinks things through a lot, and because that's exactly what happens here. He seems like he's just mostly doing more cat and mouse darting around continuously is trying to find him doing things, but really it's because he was wasting. Wasting time. Yeah, he was watching the clock. Yeah, on which was really an important wrist. Clyde legates shows that like even when he's in this frantic craziness. He still thinking like four steps ahead. It's really cool, and it shows like yeah. He was a bad ass leader back into his day. So this fighting. This is like the thing that we've all been waiting for the entire episode. Hudson is here to prove. He's still got gas in the tank. And we see his really fast reaction times and catlike reflexes as he takes on Dimona, who is much younger and also very agile. And we've got some weight on. She is kind of like your cat. Woman of the gargoyles world I feel like if she's very. Agile near the way you said is correct. Yes, she's very agile. Like she's probably done some yoga and her day. Just taking a zoom class. She's very light on her feet. She's good at what she does in. What she does is try to kill Hudson. She almost succeeds, but you know. He catches her reflection in sword when he goes out to face her, and some cool dodging maneuvers, and he's got like these cool flips and shit that he's doing doing spins his Bob and weave, and he's dodging these laser blasts, and he's not going to back with sword, and not flinching at all which we've already gone over that fucking thing maybe like A. A Magic Sword, because it fucking cut through a stone statue was so cool. It was fucking awesome, but I was like okay. Wait as I get. What is this sort? He owns it daily. Yeah, maybe not daily feeling. They're gonNA. Wear your played down time and time again. We've talked about why the fuck don't. The other girls have a weapon and he loves it so much here, yeah? Yeah the importance of having that melee weapon and being good at it. We don't see in practice with the sword, but I assume he's putting our to in every single day. Food fight it keeps going and going and and Hudson. He's more on the defensive than than the offensive side Italy, but it's because as you said he's just trying to buy time and Dimona I feel like yet. Yet again. It's her underestimating people all the time. She thinks she has the upper hand the whole entire time, and because he's not actively really fighting her. Yeah, so she jumps twenty feet in the air to the roof of the mausoleum, and this is another bit of evidence pointing towards they are cats. Yeah, you don't see this kind of vertical leap with a lot of other animal types. Like, you do with cats, you know. Yeah. Cats are crazy. And, she's got those skills. Yeah, she's got the twenty foot. Vertical leap although Hudson follows. Are there yeah, they're up on the rue fighting and we cut to. Goliath is like oh no! I got to do something. And this is when we learned. This motherfucker cannot only walk in his own, but he can climb. A building was doing the whole time. You can tell takes a lot of energy out of him because he's like slumped down, but he still did it dude Weiner. Has That Shit? You put Hudson through walking on your own. Or at least assisted, you could have been on your own feet out. And goliath being goliath tries to think that he can talk some sense into Dimona goes. Let's just use our words to figure this out man we don't need to. New to use physical violence man. Feeling to Mona. Tell us what's in your heart and Liz. What's in her heart is? She wants to kill some Gargoyles, even though there's only like seven total bright. She knocks Goliath down. She knocks Hudson down and she's about to blast them again in Hudson lays out his plan. But I know something. You don't something that comes with A. I know how to we. Know! The clouds part, and suddenly the sun is in the sky boom new statues us again. Dimona give it up. This sequence here. The clouds immediately partying like they did in the sun, just being there. It led me to an interesting question. They sleep when the sun comes out. But what if it's dark and dreary all day if they lived in Seattle? What if they lived in Seattle? It was raining all day and they never saw the sun. Would they be awake at noon I? Don't think so because the sun is still up, but what we saw was the rain clouds disappear in the sun was in the sky wasn't a sequence where we saw the sun. Come up, well, yeah, so it looked as if the sun had been there, clouds moved, sunlight touched gargoyles, flesh in everything turned to stone. Interesting say they lived in Alaska in. The month of total darkness, or whatever or vice versa, would they just never get to sleep? Yeah, that would really got hurt. Yeah, you'd be like well. Dressed for the next month or you know you get closer to the Arctic Circle, and it's daylight for you know twenty five hours a day or or weeks on end or however works I'm not a scientologist. I don't know these things. would. They just never wake up I. Don't know. Is it based on the rotation of the Earth or is it just based on their skin like? Is The stone really bad sunburn? I'm guessing it's based on the rotation of the earth than this sequence didn't make any sense because that's was up the like Oh. Oh, sorry. To end this episode. Oh pardon, yeah, no, it would have made more sense at the sun were lower. Yeah, this is one of the inconsistent parts in this episode. Anyway they're stone and that leads us to another flashback. Yeah, where we see that. The princess saved Princeton. Die Princess Pants still a dickhead. What is that about? Hey, gargoyles that you hate just saved your dad slash uncle slash whenever he is. Everything is fine and we cut outside and to Mona's crawling up glides again about taking over as leader. He doesn't want to Dimona back off, but as soon as Hudson's like will actually I agree and I think I should retire and Goliath. You should be the leader. Like okay guys, but does say that he requires Hudson to still like have a leadership role of those not glance number two. At least he isn't ninety four right so who knows what happens in those ten years? I just wonder if that's really what glass wanted or if he just felt pressured by Dimona and then Hudson, he seemed like reluctant to leader. He's like you know what I don't know. If I am ready to lead. Yeah, in the two of them are like, but you're gonNA, no choice in the matter. And that's the end of the flashback story. Everything worked out except for the princess is still an asshole for reasons. We cut back to the cemetery in the present and Liz I couldn't help, but notice the gun turn to stone. Did one, but Sodas Hudson sort every night or every day. Although. He's had that for thousand years so. What if there's a situation where Goliath dream boat were hugging. PG hugging train in the tunnel hugging. Huge finger air quotes hugging. Does she turn to stone? I mean if you have a stone Dick, any who I sit hugging. Monster. Items turned to stone if they're being held logically that leap that a person to would. Would make sense that's wild I think about that is wild, or maybe it's just inanimate objects. Yeah I. Mean that would probably make more sense. But like what if they were hugging and she's like Ohio. I'm trapped. All Day Long. It's just in the stone embrace. She can't link wiggle out of. She can't call for help because then. Excuse me detective with the Fucker you doing to that statue. Why are your pants down? What is going on? She really awkward. I swear I can explain. It's going to involve magic dinosaurs, but just follow me elements adventure okay. Can we finish this episode. So Demont does now win, but she's like Oh. Did You idiots forget? I poison your friends. She's totally dead. And, then she just fucking for us. This really weird could call. Like. Implies off. She flies off clubbing though. Shots. She's so ridiculous. Yeah, route a personal. Thought, into. Your she's. She's so. Intentionally, dramatic it's awesome. Like you. But I want you're? Just like well all right. They. Say something along the lines of I don't think we should tell to Moan of the dream boats to live like yeah, why would you do that? What are you talking about reading in Texture Jokes on you Dimona send her up a Selfie. Episode ends with going thinking Hudson for keeping him alive. Yeah, even though like half a dozen times. was like just leave me to die I. Don't deserve to live cats and to have been like you're right. You Dumb, fuck! You don't deserve to live with your I am. Well, news just interesting. Because last episode it was all about like deluxe feeling inferior, and like he's off his game, and like Ha. I'm back got it and this time it was Hudson being like? You? Know I still get hardwood. But this has made the comment. He's like you know. I forgot that I am still a warrior can still do this. In is like yeah I knew you could. which if you knew that this time? Why do you make them stay at home all the time because someone's got guard, the police station with all of the police an aunt. Liz Bronx gets lonely. Bronx just needs a POW they fly off into the night. They fist-bump, and they go get some blintzes, and that's the end of the episode. We're GONNA. Take One more break. WE'RE GONNA FINISH UP LIZ. In the year twenty one hundred euros, cybernetic enhanced population threatened to tear down everything. America held dear free speech, drive-thru, liquor, stores and guns so many guns. After much deliberation, it was decided that if America and superior values what to survive the coming robot, there was only one option. Get the fuck up. The next hundred years, so the construction of Space America the galaxies newest brightest star. If you value adventure, good times, and Cyborg fistfights find your place in Space Merica. Space Merica. No cyborgs NITA bind subscribe to Space America on Apple podcast. Google PODCASTS STITCHER OR CHECKOUT CALAMITY CAST DOT COM. Liz We're back. We had finished gargoyles episode eleven long way to morning Liz. I enjoyed this episode. What did you think of this episode? I really did like it's like obviously like we talked about their several things that weren't quite consistent or didn't quite make sense, but all in all I really enjoyed it, so has anyone told Dimona about tanks? Battleships because she wants to take over the world with like four gargoyles and a laser gun. Yeah, I feel like she doesn't understand how the world works I. Don't know if she's been misinformed or just assumes nothing has changed over a thousand years. or how could that be literally holding lasers? No, that's actually. Maybe. She thinks she's the only one that has that. She's so smart in such a good leader sometimes and then she does stupid shit like this. Where like? She doesn't think ahead the way that Hudson can think ahead many steps. She doesn't think at all. Sometimes someone needs to tell her about Sidewinder missiles because she is not an position to be conquering. Anything I feel like they're playing with that women's stereotype of like. They think what their emotions and they can't be trusted, and they're not good leaders. And I feel like they're really playing that up with her. She's just the emotional hot head. Yeah, and it's weird to see it. Man I want to say. It's weird to see in a script written by a woman, because like women can make mistakes to. Ask, you got a right to whatever you know, producers and directors of the show, but it's just it hoped for a little bit more nuance from someone who you know you'd assume has a firmer grasp on what it's like to be a minority in a group of people whether it be writers in Hollywood. Gargoyles right and it's a shame that I assume that she just had to kind of right to type. I'm just wildly speculating, but you know at this point. There's ten other episodes Dimona being. Suddenly change her character because you don't like what they've already developed, yeah! We've brought a few times, but can't leave before. Bringing up the fact that the princess in nine eighty four has her father's life saved by these Gargoyles, and then nine ninety four is in the great, Hall Calling Them Monsters and beasts. She doesn't want them in the building. Yeah, what happened? I know in those ten years where the gargoyles are still irredeemable. Their their role is literally to protect her. Yeah, every day they're castle has survived this long. Molly attacks because of the GARGOYLES. It's just weird to see that kind of hate and a child down, and then have it continue and confers yeah. I'm hoping we will continue to get more flashbacks. Yeah, I would like to see everything fleshed out because what happened back. Then what we saw in this episode was really interesting. who was the arch major before he was trying to take over? Was He trusted? was he a trusted adviser like the Maga's or possibly? Bagai Jaffar kind of situation well and has always. We are left with more questions. That is a real bummer. 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Episode 110: Im the Best Friend You Have In This World

Defenders Of The Night

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Episode 110: Im the Best Friend You Have In This World

"Anders of the night and official representatives of the clammy cast network, Daniel and I would like to make it clear that we and all that we represent as podcasters in humans are firmly unwaveringly anti-racist as a couple of white people drenched in societal privilege. We will never understand what it means to be black in America. Instead we will listen. We will learn, and we will grow to become better allies in the fight for equality there. There is a lot of darkness in the world, and we hope are goofy show about a ninety s cartoon can bring you a little laughter during the fight, but we are by no means a distraction. Never forget that black men and boys are again being lynched. People of color are still being gunned down by police and Briana. Taylor's killers are still free to put it bluntly. All black lives matter fuck raises and fuck the police. Move. Third! Yards. On the night most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favourite mid-nineties. Animated Program Gargoyles. I'm your host Liz Circle Hello I. Am your other host Daniel s Williams Liz. Yeah, we're trying something new today. It's a little weird. It's real weird can already tell I don't like I. Don't like change no me either in general. This is an experiment long distance podcasting. Yeah, we'RE NOT GONNA. Do it anymore. This is the one and only time Liz today we are talking. Gargoyles season one episode ten the edge. Do you big? Youtube Fan narrowly. Right, no, it is not the drummer. He's someone. The edge is a member of YouTube. That's why I brought them up. I. Know I know that much guitarist basis. Just. Stop guessing. It was the guitar. Liz Yeah gargoyles season. One episode ten. The edge aired January, thirteenth, nineteen, Ninety Five, and it was directed by hotshots Saburo Mojo in cuts. Terada, we know these names. We love these guys. These guys are doing a great job. It was written by a Michael Reaves SOM. If. It was awesome I. Don't know if I like Michael Reaves the more and more I, see of his episodes. You know you know I really should go back and check that out and see which ones I'm liking or not liking and see who the writers were. Yep, he's got some that. They have like good parts, but overall I wonder if maybe they're not the strongest episodes I think. He's been doing the majority. Majority of this first season Powell goals. We have a big favourite. Ask You, elise before we jump into talking about episode ten. Would you go to your preferred podcast share and gave us a five star rating. Perhaps a written review because that's how other wonderful pal goes conjoined the gargoyles family plan if you will, and that's the weird word to use, but that's the one the gargoyles used join our clan. It's totally inclusive. Anyone can join that one of those weird clams. Just going to move on I'm going to move into the episode Liz we are beginning at xanthos towers the Dough Gel specifically, because of course building is seven hundred feet tall. It's got at least one though. I mean. How else do you fill those rooms? Bakeries new get an Italian bakery on one floor French bakery. I'm sure there are other kinds, but I don't care of bakeries. Get one that's dedicated just to takes all right. Okay, so it was interesting, seeing a good old boy. Oh, and actually being kind of bad as I. Don't know I mean deluxe is off his game. That's the real thing here. Yeah, there's definitely something wrong with him. He seems Real Pissy, so we've already jumped ahead, so Owen and deluxe their sparring and a K rat tae setting. Setting I don't know if it's judo or karate or another martial art again I'm not very smart. I don't know a lot of things, but as you said, Owen takes down to luck. Yeah, it's a little messy and Alexis all like sore loser about it. They start off. You know. He gets I think he gets like a good hitter to an Owen flings. macron's the room. And then deluxe is like. That's enough I've had enough I quit. It just caused the match after like ten seconds. What a winner! His to to getting his own way, he's been out of practice. As we said Deluxe, he tried to set up a Dojo in the prison, but he couldn't get enough. Signatures on the petition, so win nowhere. I don't know what the point of this opening scene is other than to see. Deluxe get has ascended to him. Partially to show that there is something wrong. He's off his game. The thing about that is we don't get to see him on his game. So this is all just posturing. As far as the viewer is concerned, you know that's it was like a Ma game like really. What does it look like when you're on man? We're just supposed to believe that he's the best at everything I. Don't I don't believe that? That list not at all. I mean the Gargoyles keep beating him and he did get caught and sent to prison so obviously he's not the best. You know what he's got mercenaries. He's got robots, but he's yet to get into a fight himself until dot dot, we in the scene, but basically him taking out his frustrations on whoever is next meeting with is he's like who's coming up next to Noah like. Helman's or whatever it doesn't matter a to, and he's like. Tell him to meet me at one like what if it's twelve fifty because that's what I'm imagining, you know. You know when you're a multi-billionaire. You get to do it your way. Yeah, he's a Dick. He isn't a deck and we move onto the clock tower Liz so is the clock tower the same building as the police station I got real confused of where we were. That's this huge reveal here is that I think yes one hundred percent she and put her boyfriend and all his Bros. in her place of business so dangerous because she is dating dragon. which most people don't believe this? I was just very confused. What all is connected to what in this building? Yeah, but anyway so dream boat is bringing a fucking TV to work, and it's obvious it's four Hotson, and all the others which adorable I think. Oh! She doesn't want to miss her stories. To live days of our lives in Guiding Light General Hospital as the world turns, lead you know a lot of soap operas. I know a thing or two about two. And then we meet a new guy, boy is fucking guy. I have problems front to back with this guy. I like his broad shoulders. I dislike that they made this little fucking pissed boy redhead. Was Little fucking conspiracy theorist Weiner guy out to be a red head. That's not fair. At least that's so far as we see He's not an angry redhead. He'll shows true. Others got damage. We all do okay, so this guy. She drops the remote control for the TV which restore like all right. Why Bring Your TV to work and she's like? Oh, just storing it for later. Let's understate how insanely risk. This is to have her gargoyles. Powell's in her place of work. Which again is a police station a bold strategy? Pays off oral. Maybe she thinks that she's the only good detectives. That doesn't matter. No one will ever notice. It turns out. That detective remote is secretly. A huge asshole thinks nothing of her coworkers. But that leads us to her being in a meeting with her captain cats pantsuit yeah. We find out that dream boats getting a partner which immediately gets very angry about it turns out the smoke. redhead from outside is the new recruit team. Flying Dragon Man and I'm sure they're all GONNA get along. Just great and nothing's going to go. Bad I totally called that before they revealed who obviously, it was obvious it was going to be him, but going to. It's going to be that guy was. Well. She needs someone to rain her end because she's just running off. You know at all hours of the day and night. Just doing whatever the hell she wants. She needs someone to kind of keep tabs. Does she work like I feel like she battled making. She needs someone like audit her work. Is this her first time back since the shooting? I'm sure that she's been working from home I'm sure she's been going through case files, and whatever in this, if this is her first day back in the office that means that it's totally okay for her to be carrying seventy five pound TV UP I. Don't know twenty flights of stairs and you know. She doesn't have a massive wound that she's recovering from. Everything's okay. I didn't even think about that, but yeah I mean those TV's are heavy. Yeah, do you remember when TV's were this fucking big? A twenty four inch screen weighed seventy pounds and like Oh, it's huge! That's the size TV I had in college. It was one of those big fatty is, and it was always a giant pain moving in and out of the DORMS, and into my apartment, and seriously where you in college two thousand ten, yeah? A friend, one it at his senior in, and he had a flat screen TV that he was bringing to school with him, and so he gave me the big one. The gave you the big one indeed, Liz, you are. Dream takes this TV upstairs. And she runs into Broadway and Lexington and I'm just going on with my notes Liz you keep your giggles on that side and she's wondering where everyone like. Oh, there's Broadway. Oh, there's Brooklyn. He's over there. Where is Goliath? Let ceiling person. She actually wants to see right course she does like when you stop over at your boyfriend or girlfriend house and You know they've got their loser roommates and you're like okay. Yeah, you guys are here. Where is the person I came to? Oh, no, he's not what he's not even. Even here. He's at the library. Okay I was so confused by this library. Okay me, too. Is this like one big public building? That's like Oh. Police Station here library there. I'm so confused. I'm going to say no, because this is not some podunk town where it's got one stop lie and all of the municipal facilities are in one building. This New York City. So. Is this a library next door? Did he sneak off like Shimmy on the side of the building and like push through a window? I don't know Liz if they would just say two lines of dialogue, and we could figure out the geography of this space though I have to say. Every time they show him just being all Bruti reading a book. I like it like a illiterate man. Bring the stool with him. Because when he was reading in the Castle Library he was also sitting on a stool, a brooding stool. It's his preferred perching spot. Does he loves a good perch? He's sitting mobility reading Dostoevsky and he's going on to her about how deluxe drove the Gargoyles into hiding? How now they're outcasts, strangers in a strange land and Liz I hate to break it to him, but he's always been that way. Ask Dimona right like even when they were living out in the open in Scotland, they were fucking hated. Yeah, they were always outcasts. They weren't allowed in the Great Hall. Hall and the Castle nobody wanted to hang out with the fucking gargoyles. Like why is he pouting like this I? Don't know he's like Super Mopey. Goliath. This whole entire episode like I. Don't know what the fuck is going on between him and deluxe, both of them just being mopey boys, but I'm over it I know they need to swoop. Their bangs forward. Pierce their lip on the side starting. Starting Him Oban because for fuck, sake their little crybabies. They are I knew so many boys like that in high school I'm sorry. Teenage Boys I didn't mean to offend, but really I was just accurately describing you, Cheryl anyway, so from there we go back to the tower, which of course the TV's up, and they're watching and got that old school antenna. Workin just right got a position. Well, which is. Is Surprising. That's a very difficult thing to do well Lexington. He knows machines know that, so he probably took care of it. Yeah, and you were saying I'm sorry I interrupted because I like to talk ten, so they're watching TV right, and we see deluxe on the news, and Goliath goes fucking bonkers again. I assumed that it would be because he got caught with his dick out in public, but. Apparently he was donating the I of Odin to the Moma now. That's weird because it's the museum of modern, art in this seems to be some sort of ancient artifact, so this doesn't make any fucking sense. He didn't even register. That lets a really funny ridiculous, but he's doing a nice thing what they should have shown us. WAS The museum president? I don't know I don't know how museums were being like. It's really nice that you wanna give us this, but you do realize that this is the Museum of modern. Art and I've carbon dated the vote in two four. THOUSAND BC you fucking. Are, just like in the interview. You know this is like a worth millions of dollars, Blah Blah. Blah and I like how Della has pretty much. Just like will travis I have all the money in the world. So why do I need? This might as well make me look good to the public. Yeah, and then there's this. Back and forth continues between him and the reporter and I wanNA play you a little bit in this clip. Because Golf, the rails real quick here. Okay, a few more donations like this and New York might even forget your prison record. I made a mistake Mr Marshall. I paid my debt to society. All I'm trying to do now is give something to benefit others. Would you rather kept the I? Your Limo is ready Mr Senators. Perfect time going. Liz Is this a puff piece on the donation or Gotcha piece on deluxe and his recent prison stint. It's so weird that the reporter guy. He's like Oh so nice something something. Prison Gotcha, motherfucker. Into just like you know what I don't need this shit. The fuck out of here. Yeah, and he pieces out. I assume in the middle of a live broadcast I couldn't tell what was actually being recorded, and that was like a conversation happening on camera, or after the camera had already turned down I like to think that Owen saw it happening in in the middle of the broadcast. He just walks into frame and he was like. Hey, you're limos here. We should go. Rude unprofessional, but again deluxe is a billionaire and he can do it if he wants to. On brand for him on the other thing I thought it was interesting, was of course. His car is there. It's his own personal limo. Where the fuck would it go like it's always ready to go? It's not like he was waiting for a bus. That's why I think the walked into the middle of the shot like during. This is a poor excuse but A. To G. I was thinking. Maybe the LIMO had to like keep circling around until they were done something because there was no parking available. You're right. It is New York City. Okay for all is forgiven deluxe. You're doing a great job and you are a gift to New York City. So we kind of pull back out of the interview and Goliath is going ape shit? He is angry and he takes off for the museum. Yeah, this is a thought I. Just had Liz. This goes back to the idea of never knowing exactly what time it is right in the Gargoyles Universe, because it's obviously after dark. But what time of year is it right now? Because if this is a live broadcast, this is not the nine o'clock or ten o'clock news. My point being the glide immediately takes off for the museum like he wants to go catch deluxe right then and there the I was thinking. He was heading to the castle to have a chat with deluxe, but that's true. It's confusing because what we see is someone that looks like Goliath break into the museum right I guess they're trying to make us the viewer think it might possibly be goliath breaking in I think I'm getting confused because what you and I know. Is that the person that stole? The eye of Odin is deluxe, but he's also at the castle. Win Goliath shows up, so there's like these weird skips in time that they don't. Don't acknowledge, was that the Red Goliath or was it one of the other guys? That's the thing is. I assumed it was actually deluxe because of robot programming and like. Could he tell these robots to go and break in quietly to the museum? Steal the I owed, and that seemed like a human act or a sentient, being act that makes a lot of sense also. Does goliath not realize that sometimes things are prerecorded so? I'm sees where we assume we see him head to the museum. I see that's the thing I don't understand about this episode. In in the writing is like what are we to assume versus what is actually happening Ra Goliath. The story wants to make us think that he took off for the museum, but why would he do that? Does he think Alexis there? If so, what is he planning on doing? Is he just mad at the like what? No, I! Agree because I mean as soon as they show us the break in I'm like okay. Obviously goliath wouldn't do that. He is a trustworthy gargoyles right like he wanted to go smash smash for no reason and what would be the reason. The story is trying to feed us. He wants the money to buy back the castle. Yes sure. Yeah, that's the thing is like. Why are they trying to make us think that life is breaking into like steely I voted. Why is the I vote and really important to Gargoyles? Don't fucking know this is the first time we've heard of exact, and if it turns out, it's really important. Yeah, okay. I'm sorry. I'm hung up on this. Okay all right. Let's move on to whatever happens next Liz. We cut away briefly to Dream Boat riding with her new partner detective dingus and he starts talking about the illuminating. I don't know much about the elimination by. I know it's something that's not real. People talk about it all the time. Right like I feel like that's one of the go to conspiracy theory kind of things I. Don't know I don't travel in those circles trying to stick to reality and or Gargoyles. Liz, they're talking about the luminosity. And suddenly they get a radio call and there's been a break in the Moma. That's the stuff we're talking about fifteen minutes ago, right? This is a brief cut away. What's taken us like ten minutes? We go back to the museum. They get back to the museum. And they see a gargoyles. That's no Gargoyles, Sarrebourg oil, and the goal steals the eye of Odin and assaults Lagarde. He's mean would shirt. He runs through window. Right is the detectives pull up and he takes off flying cars and detective. dingus takes a shot at him during about immediately gasping my boyfriend. Don't tell you that there are very obviously rockets on the back of this thing. He's shooting at a jet engine. Is He doing? What does he think is going to happen if he were to hit this? Like a showering of fire and debris on the city streets Liz. They like that show. Fair enough. He's like you know what I know. What the city needs right now and hasn't had in days, fire and debris. All over the humans. Nothing happens the bullet as off the Robo goal and hits a passing Septuagenarian. It's no big deal. Loop See. But he's all like. Why did you try to stop me and she's like yeah, because he didn't know what you're you're shooting at. It could have been bad which fair. That is actually accurate. I, don't even know what shooting it. I was just firing my gun into the sky like a train police professional. Dude I. Don't like him. I don't like detective Dingus. One bit was yes. I think it's time we take a break. Cool. I needed to just wash my hands of this fool of detective. Is this his first day on the job? He's fresh out of school fresh out of detective school. We'll be right back. I'm Daniel we've got a great new show. 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They're going to be some detectives and street cops that are going to have to settle for Broadway. Tin Yeah I. Think Brooklyn's pretty up there though I mean I would definitely put him at number two in Lexington I just can't get a little baby. That's the weirdest childlike I agree brought them fine with. You know he's a big bear. Oh, yeah, and he's protective. It's fuck anyway. Dream Boat is in a meeting with Captain Pantsuit, discussing the museum in about whatever it was, that flew away when detective Ding comes in and I. Don't know if you notice this kind of. Of stuff on TV shows, but I hate when someone comes into a room because you've got to see this on TV, and then they turn on whatever TV's in the room, and it happens to come on right at the most important bit that they're trying to show. Whoever what a fun coincidence! How is he watching the most important bit in the other room and then comes in to show it to them. You know what I'm getting. All worked up over dumb fucking TV. Liz What is actually happening on TV Goliath guy well, we know it's not Goliath, but it seems to be. And he's stealing the vote in, and they got it on camera footage, so everyone now knows that gargoyles exist because I don't know that the Robo. Goyal so now everyone's all guest. What is that creature? Dream boats just awkwardly standing there like I. Don't know anything. that's. What. They will live above your head right now. They're not in the attic that tells us the viewer deluxe donated the I vote in solely for the purpose of stealing it back later that day. I. Mean That's funny, but was that the only plan well, because then it forces the existence of the Gargoyles to be known right, so he's doing it as a power play to force them into the public eye, but if that's his plant like I'm still confused over like. Why does he want the public to know about Gargoyles just so that they can be hated and feared some more later in the episode he. He does say he wants to force them out of the city and live in his country home that he apparently has i. don't get what he wants. Actually in the way that this writer tends to his episodes, he doesn't ever explain it. Yeah, it's like he presents some good ideas, but he doesn't follow up on them and I. Guess We're supposed to assume that they will be touched upon some other point. Well Liz from there. We go upstairs to the clock tower dream. Boat, just she's like. Oh, no I e have business upstairs. I gotta go and she you know runs up ten flights of stairs and she goes until the Gar. Gang. What's going on and here in my notes is where we get to the curiousness I have of the why of it all and everyone's standing around. Like what does he do do that? Glide is like he's got a devious plan. I don't know what it is, but God dammit. It's bad. I don't think that the looks knows what the overall plan is I. Think he's just playing only one or two steps ahead. I agree I think he's kind of flying by the seat of his pants. Just to see what the fuck he can make happen I mean the writer of this episode Michael Reaves, definitely doing the story justice by not really planning ahead or even thinking too much about it is at least as far as we can. Tell viewers right. This is when Goliath takes off. Off Piston goes to the castle so earlier when we were talking, that makes even lessons now where the fuck did Glasgow then maybe he just needed to fly it off, and cooldown needed to go find an empty warehouse in anger dance. Yes, all right. I had a question, did dream boat not know about the metal gargoyles? Last time they existed when they had to fight them off well, they did destroy all of those Gargoyles, the metal gargoyles I mean he's Tony Stark of the gargoyles. Of course he's GonNa make new Shit I agree with you one hundred percent, but everyone seems to be so confused as to how there could possibly be more. Yeah from our perspective is like. He made them guys. He made them the first time course he's GonNa make bigger better stronger. That's how ultra came to be guys. Anyway Glides like making a plan like all right boys. Let's go. Let's head out Bronx Hudson. You stay here and guard the new home so funny. Obviously, Bronx can't fly. That makes sense. He doesn't get to go along. Why just Hudson always have to stay? Because as ner doesn't want to do anymore? The episode is like I'm only working for ten pages of script boys, so you better get your money's worth. So yes, Brooklyn in Lexington in Broadway. They accompany with to castle. Hudson in Bronx have to stay behind to protect their new home as if the police station needed protecting. Of psychopaths with guns. It's fine. But okay, and I think that's it for Hudson. And the rest of the episode Ed Asner done. He's done with episode ten. Early me. You're right, and as they are heading for the door, so to speak Dream Boat tries to stop them, and she's got some really convincing arguments that they do not listen to it on one player club. To deal with summit owes hold on Goliath I wouldn't take the chance of being seen if I were you. You're not writing very high in the public opinion polls right now, knowing Lisa. No more hiding. Santos will answer to me for this because every single time. One of them is like. Oh, it'll be fine. We'll just the humans can see us shit. Go sideways like do they not learn? Like. Why does during about have to be? The only level headed wanted to like guys. This is a horrible idea. Because Liz she's the woman and that's the woman's responsibility. Is To parent a bunch of grown men. She presents it like a like. It's an image problem. Mikey did not see what I saw on. TV like you. You need a good pr person. Come on, we gotTA clean this up. We gotTA. We gotta get a spin on it right and they're like. NO WE WANNA fight a guy. Get Out of our way. Lady and they take off. They. Take off and they're flying to castle waiver, and she goes down to ground level from the essentially the roof in like two seconds flat. She gets down to her car looks up and they are flying overhead. Is there a five hundred foot firemen Poland's building. Like what the fuck? How did she get down there so fast? Another thing the time lapse. That doesn't make any sense. No, that is absurd. She has wings of her own and she flow. So. She gets in her car right and then detective Dingus runs up behind her wanting to be her partner. You know she wants to go, and he wants to come along because somehow he just knows that whatever things she's going to do. She's going to need a partner. Right was what if she wants to go home to poop because she doesn't like to poop it. Does. She need a partner. Whatever mom's sick and she's rushing over to help, Liz what does. She ran out of tampons and she's going on down to the pharmacy. Back the fuck off Matt. He's all up in her business. You just needs to go with your thing, but like are they on the clock? I can't figure when she's working when she's not ever. poop emergency I. Don't think it matters what she going to say like Oh. Yeah, come on along. It's GonNa, be Smelly, right? Oh my God all right I'm sorry. She changes her mind and let him come, and it's a mistake that guy needs to get hit by a bus. So from there, we get to Castle White Verna and I guess deluxe just knew they were coming. He looks like he's up there flying kind. Maybe he missed his pal oils and he's like we used to hang out here. I met them. Maybe they called before they left. Maybe like we're coming over to have words, he's like Oh! He angry Goliath. That's my favorite Goliath. So they show up right and the best part of Deluxe is bottomless pool of smug, asshole one liners. Can I play you this little bit here yes, please. It hosts. You have gone too far I. You steal our home and now you steal our very identities. Got It all wrong. I'm the best friend you have in this world. It's good and I like that he's always got something to say. That's probably the most endearing aspect of his personality to me. At least it's like that guy that you're like I want to just straight up. Hate you, but I can't, but damn. You got some fire one liners. Fuck you. Meanwhile Dream Boat and Matt. Trying to get upstairs matters no fucking clue what's happening? He's just like all right. We're running. Let's do this and. We're in a hurry now, okay? Know, what's happening right now? 'cause I insisted on tagging along. And, she won't tell me anything and I guess Owen assumed that she would also be coming, because he's right there waiting for her and won't let her up and she's like I used to have access whenever I wanted which I'm sure Matt's like but why. I was like well. Things change so for perspective detective Dream Boat and deluxe used to be in a relationship right. It totally sounds like she was banging the billionaire, which that is totally name of a romance novel. Banging the billionaire is not a romance novel, seducing the billionaire but. Banging the billionaire is definitely porno. Moving on the best part about this scene in the lobby is that Owen physically puts himself in between the elevator and remote. You know she's trying to dodge, and we get around him. And he just keeps stepping and sidestepping, and she's like fuck. He knows my every move. It's all the martial arts he's been doing. That's exactly right. He's got those taekwondo moves. He's got this cat like reflexes now. He says deluxe is an important meeting and I. Don't suppose you have a warrant like that is so dumb because we know that deluxe is up to some shit and dream, boat knows that deluxe is up to some shit and of course Owen. But he's not supposed to be giving all of that information away. Like. Why would they need a warrant, Owen? What are you implying? Sir took it that he was just saying that. Like the only way that you're going to have access to go up. There anymore is if you have a warrant till like forces your way up her I feel like he likes giving up too much information. Yeah, because nothing really matters because I did leave. I mean I thought warrant was specifically for like searching and looking around and stuff like that, but she just wanted to talk to Dj Deluxe Yeah felt like they had that line for lack of a better phrase. And then we go back up to the roof. They immediately give up. Oh well. We don't have a war and I. Guess we'll just leave. Glad is eight angry. Keep so fucking angry in the I feel like he's angry. Most of the show, or at least maybe like the last five feel like he's like channeling his inner Dimona with his rage. Yeah, I mean it's not like he doesn't have a reason to be angry, but it just it's a bit much. It's a lie you know when you see. A man is being angry and yelling all the time you start to wonder like what the fuck is. That guy's problem is shouting all it no totally. So deluxe is finally semi kind of explaining what he's doing here. I think you had a clip. You wanted us to listen to yell. Let's listen to this because I guess this is what it's all about. Let's try to focus on the big picture Goliath. I've got a research facility upstate where you and your friends could be comfortable and protect. What doesn't seem a difficult choice to me. Stay here in the city and be hunted down like animals. Or be my guests and a safe haven. What are you saying? Okay Liz so deluxe wants to move all the Gargoyles to his research facility upstate now and he says because everyone in the city is GonNa, know bottom, and then they're going to be like hunted, and whatever, but they are only going to be hunted by every asshole in New York City because he's trying to expose them right Yup, and if he hadn't been such addict to begin with and conniving and weird, they might still have a relationship. Yeah, they never would have left so is. is his plan that he wanted to see if gargoyles were real, even though he already knew because he had a previous relationship with the Modem and then experiment on them so like he didn't want to experiment on his girlfriend, so we wanted to wake up these other gargoyles experiment on them, but he treated him like Shit, so they left, so he wants to corner them into a position where they have to leave the city like the most complicated way to get a hang out date. Yeah like it's nuts is doing some hard core nagging? Just WanNa be friends and this is the only way you're going to be my friend. Is If I try to have you kill. I hope that. Over the course of the series we get a full picture of what the fuck deluxe was up to. From the get-go have it'd be the last episode like this was my master plan all along, and it's just that he wanted gargoyles at a birthday party or some shit. And obviously Goliath doesn't take this news well at all. In fact, so well that he destroyed a lamp post, Liz win slash y slash also. How did deluxe have Lippo's installed in the castle exterior? I don't know but I. Want to odd way to take out your frustration I. Don't know if you noticed in the scene. They put other lamposts in the background. So there's not only one like no. No, he put a bunch all over the place. Why? For All those Castle Garden parties that he hosts at nighttime for his gargoyles friends. Liz, it's way too cold up there. It's in the fucking stratosphere. And Loud Oh. Yeah, how Loudini on a Windy Day Goliath N. Dream Boat are trying to have a romantic coversation. He keeps talking and his low rumbling voice and she's just going. What are. You. Go inside. Of course. You don't know a lot of arm work lot of miming. She's like. Why does he always try to seduce me at the tippy top of this fucking castle? I can barely breathe. There's not enough oxygen up here. Can we go inside? Do, you think. The interior of the castle has to be pressurized. All right, let's go down to the streets. The mean streets of NYC where it goes back to detective dingus. That's his name now. Sorry and Dream Boat. Heading out to the car. He makes him sort of sarcastic comment about how successful they were getting through all of the guards, and it's like dude. She did not want you to be here, so shut your mouth or she will fill it with her foot. So they're flying back to the clock tower. Now they're done with their conversation with deluxe and Goliath is. Trying to fill them in with what's going on? Even though they were all there and they could hear the conversation. What happens is Brooklyn is like hey. How'd it go? Man Like he didn't hear the whole thing I mean. These are the same creatures that can hear like seven inch thick steel doors when it's convenient for the plot. Right out in the open air. Brooklyn was like Oh. No I must I missed all that damn wind. You know what that's a fair point. Fair point so then suddenly, the rogue oils show up behind them. They call him the steel clan fucking Shit Lexington like y'all seen them before. Of course he's going to bring them back again. It wasn't going to be a one and done situation. I mean to be fair. They don't know how robots work like you kill a human humans, not coming back but Lexington is the computer guy. If he can figure that shit out, he should be able to figure out. Oh, he could build more. than he does machines, he should know. I don't know. I can't tell you. I don't know if I like the term steel clan, the word clan as I mentioned earlier. It makes me a little uncomfortable. I mean they are from Scotland, so it makes sense me in my heart I. Don't WanNa, use that word alright I don't like their clan. At least they're clan with the see I. Guess Yeah, what pissed me off about? This is that they didn't hear these Steel Clinton. Come up behind them with their jet engine backpack stealth mode. They still have flames shooting out of their back. That's ridiculous. Goliath is just like rage flying right now. He's unaware of any of his surroundings. So what about Broadway? Who was not paying attention to anything and doesn't care what's going on? You know that's how he feels like I feel like that sometimes, when a conversation is going on around me and I'm like this isn't concerning me at all, so I'm just going to tune out, and then later on, people are like so did you hear what he said I'm like I'm sorry what I heard. But why don't you just start from the top just to I? Know what I think I heard. But what did you hear? What are you? You upset about all of this is to say. The steel clan shows up to fuck up some gargoyles and I mean the first thing we see is. Goliath gets shot. Yeah, he goes down hard. I don't know if you notice Liz. I don't know if you could tell. There was a bit of a difference between one of the steel clan and the other two. Yeah, what's that about? This is one of the things that I feel like full on remembered about the show from when I was a kid. Was that I'm going to spoil it here and I'm sorry if you're listening at home and watch the episode at the same time. Br Red. Robo Goyal is, deluxe? I haven't been waiting the entire series of to this point to see this like it was kind of annoying that it took so long because in my mind, it was like episode. One or two deluxe is the Red Robo logo, but we don't know this yet. Because that's not reveal to the that was a poor revealed, just jumping the gun here. That was a terrible reveal. Yeah, okay, so there's an attack and if there's one thing, the show does really well. It's these big action set-pieces. in the air on the ground like on the rooftop for all its faults. The show is great with his action. Yeah, totally, but deluxe really doesn't give a fuck about how much he destroys the city, does he? He doesn't because you know what he's rich enough to fix whatever the problem. Oh. I just made this. To the city, no reason no reason it's like when Bruce. Wayne has to donate a building to the city of Gotham because Batman got into some massive fighting back headed, blown up or some shit like. Why is no one ever connecting the dots here totally? So Daniel are the people of new. York City always this dumb that when they see lasers and explosions happening above they just gathering the street and watch it. Go down and watch com fall on them like yes, Liz, what you have to remember and I feel like you're being a bit insensitive here, but this is a pre nine eleven world. People just looked up at lasers and falling debris like it was no big deal. They had that luxury and I don't think that you should shame them for it. Okay? Okay, his I'm sorry. So. It seems as though the steel clan. They've gotten some upgrades because they are handily thrashing our borough goals Yes. It is game over man. Came over the ruble oils fly through a portion of a building and just collapse it on top of all of the Gargoyles, all of that and they are dead I mean we have sixty eight more episodes, so we know that will be fine, but it's really tends to see like they. They're not GonNa win I wonder what I thought as a child seeing this way, totally she. Well how about we take a quick break Tarlo ourselves to mourn the loss of not only this building, but our pal goals I guess the rest of the series of just Hudson Bronx. Good thing they stayed behind. Did Venture. Bronx. It's mostly watching a dog and old man watch TV. Okay you said something about a break yes. Let's do that. After tragedy strikes. Nicer to come back for the Funeral Dean D. Unites. Would up man to celebrate the life of a friend. Let's see. Until some thing happens. Now they're struggling to survive in a world they don't understand. Our. Group they failed through time and space in an epic podcast from the calamity cast network dropping. Already. Subscribe to a beginner's guide to interplanetary destruction. That's what I'm calling my penis eight seconds ago. Band wear. I everybody to the rooftops. It turns out that our friends. The gargoyles aren't going to die. Why is that Liz i? Dunno have Goliath tell us. Does doesn't want to destroy us. He wants to dominate. US Deluxe isn't the only one that wants to dominate. Goliath Hung, you know. Hell dominate that big boy any day I'll day or a day. Okay. I wrote the initial line. My notes and you made it so much more uncomfortable. I do. So Liz the dudes spend. What could be considered way too much time kind of huddling up talking about what to do next. And I am on my couch, shouting, go back to the castle. Tear it down. Because this is the wrong place to do a fight scene and you know that deluxe is over there at the castle with remote controller flying these fucking things. So why are you bothering with the robots? Why not just go fight the guy? But they don't do that, they don't sell. This is where we see the big crowd of people in the streets again and. Matt and Dream Boat Run into the midst of it. I like how matches like Yanks. The binoculars away from some random dude, who's just in the middle of the street and with binoculars as you do. You know what that is. It's like when a police officer has to confiscate someone's vehicle. Only a much smaller scale as he's either my now visual business from there. We go to the Statue of Liberty because they decide, they need to go somewhere remote to have this robo fight. They realized that they can't lead them back to their house. This goes back to my point. Why not just go to castle? Whatever that place is used to being destroyed by robots and Gargoyles, true facts, but instead they go to the Statue of Liberty, which made me actually more stressed out than I thought I was I've never been to the Statue of Liberty, but apparently I have strong feelings about the statute of liberty clad the whole time. I was like Oh God. Please destroy it. Oh, God. Give me your tired, your poor. You're hungry. Your Garg Oil Dha. Robot like it's Eh yeah, and and robot. It's where they go here. Because also, this is a tourist attraction. Right and I keep bringing it up. Like what time at night do these things take place? I am assuming because the story would have us believe that no one's around that. It's late enough that the touristy parts are closed, but because they never give. Give us a time stamp, or any indication of what time at night it is worse left to make these goofy assumptions, because what if it was this early in the evening and that place is fucking full of people to. It's not like it's always deserted. You know yeah, but well anyway, so they're they're and they're fighting and Goliath like I'll take on this red leader guy. You'll take care of the other two. And we to see Broadway. Actually hold his own. He took down a robot on his own. He does some slick aerial moves and then goes to help. Take down the other guy, the other robot. I have to say the weird finger tongue lick checkmark. He did when he destroyed. The one robot made me very uncomfortable. Oh, I thought you were GONNA. Say really hot. No I didn't like it. Misread, that whole thing and I apologize. So, yeah, he does some cool flying maneuvers, and he kind of leads his robot into the book. The Statue of Liberty is holding and the robot can't course correct and explodes on contact. He does the weird the Liqi thing and he goes to help his bros.. He flies back down to the debris of the busted up rogue oil in grabs the arm he likes football throws it through the Crotch of the other robot, and that one explodes and goes down, and it brings me back to my point of these guys should always be armed. With you get it always be. He threw an arm. Dad Jokes? I was GONNA. Say you're such a dad. No big deal. Just nailing the Dead Sea because weapons. You call them. You know it's fun. You get it you get. Thank you all right that leads Goliath and big red. Yes, I like how it's. His instinct is just to talk to things like have a little conversation at a thing that he assumes doesn't understand him or can talk back, but he's just like having a chat with the machine. Meet me. snort a little as a really good point. I didn't even think of that list, but he doesn't know. There's a dude in their you and machine. It's going down I. Don't know what he actually said, but he definitely has a conversation with the machine. They do some really cool fist fighting, which you wouldn't expect between the Gargoyles and the robot, right? We're supposed to assume that this is a robot, so there's like kick grown, and you throw a kick I. Dunno sure. Kick, you throw a punch, whatever yes, and a really handy tell swipe. Yeah, that's always cool to see, but there wasn't enough laser action here, but as we learn later, this is actually deluxe, so the kicking and punching. Make sense when you tie back to the opening scene in the DOJ. Yes the other gargoyles aren't occupied with their on charges, so they drop down, and it becomes a very unfair fight very fast. Yeah, so that's some big red realizes he's been beat and. He, just takes the fuck off and they don't chase them. It's all real weird. I guess figured he's retreating. He's not GonNa be an issue right now. which is a silly thing to assume, that's ridiculous to assume. Because they destroyed all of the previous steel clan, and these new ones came back, so he's definitely going to be an issue. Right I mean I understand that this helicopter shows up, so that's kind of why they escape the island in cover, but it's just weird that they don't leave the island to chase down this robo goal, but fine whatever. Whatever everyone leaves were left with what ends up being detective dingus in Detective Dream Boat in the helicopter with the news reporter Guy from earlier in news guy says to Dingus, he says thanks for the exclusive and I didn't understand that line and I know it's a little like nitpicky thing, but I didn't know I had no idea what was happening there. Why did they bring him along I? Think it's because dream boat wanted to really make it clear I was just robots. Robots, it's not Gargoyles, and so she let him come along for the exclusive to protect her boys. Yeah, okay, that makes total sense great. You're at Europe what's weird about that. Though is that Matt doesn't believe that there were robots. He doesn't sound like. Matt made the arrangement by the way the interaction goes, but Matt clearly doesn't believe that it's only robots. So how did that look you know? How did that arrangement go? It's weird. I don't like. Maybe it was just a man taking. Maybe just a man taking credit for a woman's work. I mean I feel like Matlab totally do that. Yeah, I mean that's what it looks like. When I try to put these pieces together, you know the news, guys that Oh thanks for the help and the do like yeah, no problem buddy and during boats in the front look. Exactly, so so let me go back to the castle, and we see Owen talking to the back of deluxe and then we realized when he steps into the light that he was the robot all along, he was big red, and he makes them comment like I'm back beatty. Wasn't that term I was like yes, off his game, and he's like got it back I'm good now. Owens like Oh, it's a real shame that you couldn't find their hideout. And he's like yeah, but I got my voting and I fucking when toe to toe with Goliath in my big fancy robot suit, and so that's pretty cool. Right like I'm back on the top eight yeah I could kick your ass if I was wearing my robots. What bugs me is like why the fuck either as Owen think that deluxe is obsessed with finding out where they live or is deluxe, actually so obsessed like who the fuck cares where they live. If that was his plan, why? Why is it a big deal? All he has to do is put something on TV to Piss. Goliath thought to make them show up. It's not like you go looking for him or he while fighting, he could've put a tracker on Goliath. Yeah, he's. Had it done before. It's these little things. The pop up throughout the episode and I I don't know if it's the writer that I. Keep going back to you now that I have his name stuck in my Goddamn head. You know Michael. reaves just having really uneven writing or I'm writing for a kid shows off to think about much or or whatever it is right I don't know, but it's these little things that bug me when you put a second thought into like that doesn't make any sense. That to the end of that episode. Do you want to take a quick break? And then we can discuss our thoughts. That's exactly what I want to do. Law. In Modern Day Bristol someone is copying one of the most infamous serial killers of all time. Jack The ripper only this time the story is different. A woman survives and decides to get her revenge by taking the law into her own hands, but in so doing, she awakens darkness deep insider if you like suspense, Thrillers Man Serial killers tune into Jane. The ripper and audio drama coming to calamity cast. Dot Com Halloween twenty, nine, thousand nine. Liz We're back. We did it. We've hit double digits. Ten episode. What did you think of this one I feel like I have mixed feelings I like that we are learning more about where they live now outside of the castle. I think Dingus is going to be an interesting addition to dream boats, life, and seeing how she has to navigate that and her constantly running to go see her boy toy. And it introduces us to Robo Deluxe, which is cool. That was an important part of the episode for sure. I think the way that they revealed that was him lame, but. It would have been cooler if the mass came off during the fight totally and been like Ha. Ha wasn't be all. If. It got knocked off accidentally. That wasn't cool. It's been like gas. God Damn it I'm angry over. Yeah. I've made my opinion on this episode. Pretty well known throughout that I. think that it had some really good bits, but it was so uneven and wonky. That I like this. Yeah, because really if you looked at episode ten in you or asked what the story for it is! What would you say? It wasn't detected. Dream. BOOB gets shot or Shows up for some reason it was. Tell Alexis being a Weirdo. Like deluxe is trying to frame them, but for unclear reasons. Ya just because because he wants his research, there's no strong motivation with deluxe still ten episodes. Yeah other than I have money and want to play with Ed Yeah I wanNA. Fuck with these gargoyles for unclear reasons because word. Yeah, so I don't think I like this one I think this one has a pretty weak plot overall, but it did some important bits, and I'm okay with that. It introduced this character detective Mat- dangerous. I think he's going to be trouble things. Still I wouldn't be surprised if they never go back to them ever. Really like she proves. Didn't need that partner and she goes back to normal. This is nothing character. What was he here to be redhead? Once your mind. Unless they're setting up something further down the line, but they didn't give us enough of this character in this episode to have me feel compelled that he was important in any way, you know, he's a guy who mentioned the luminosity and steal some noculars, and has some obnoxious little one off lines, but he's not an important character. He doesn't do anything that felt important to the episode to the story I'll be interested to see if he does continue on. On and what his role is. Liz I brought it up earlier in the episode, but do you think that Hudson wasn't in the second half of the episode? Because at has got tired of it, or he had conflicts of the schedule or something like it's so weird to have the old guy who's arm. He's not being the fight fights. Yeah I didn't even realize that until you pointed it out, but it is odd. That usually figures character okay by. Wasn't in the rest of the episode, and he doesn't do a ton of fighting. I wonder if that has something to do with the actor, not wanting or being able to portray that kind of seen very well, he's just old and tired and ill guy. He wants to watch TV. Maybe, we'll get lucky and have a good husband. centric episode I think every other characters had third venture. He's too old and learned for that. You know he's not going to get caught up with the humans. He doesn't give a fuck about humans built protect sherby these like I. don't Care Yeah. Oh well guys I think. We just finished another episode of defenders of the night. We did it as always. Thanks, a million to Ian McGowan for composing interstitial music heard throughout the show. Check him out on Instagram and twitter at easy underscore breezy, underscore Mac and listen to his music at good deeds, Music Band Camp Dot Com. 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Episode 103: Things Need Names

Defenders Of The Night

55:43 min | 7 months ago

Episode 103: Things Need Names

"We are defenders of the most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favourite mid-nineties. Animated Program Gargoyles. I'm your host Daniel William on and your other host. Eliza who stabbed avenue is Geez. Welcome back everyone to defenders. Tonight we are here to discuss episode three of season one titled Awakening Part Three. I almost said part one. That'll be stupid. What do you thinking of the season? So far stories really picking up. Yeah actually I was really excited about this episode. I feel like you know of any new series. The first episode or two has to really explain what is happening and get you into that universe. I feel like most shows take a couple episodes to really get going and I feel like this was the first one that really was like. Oh Wow we could swing of this. Yeah I liked their adventuring into the city. They're doing some questionable things we'll get into shall we? Let's do it well. This is again episode. Three it aired October twenty sixth nineteen ninety four so they ran all these back to back to back. So we're just a few days from the premier. It was written by Eric. Luke and Michael Reaves. They've done everything up to this point and it was directed by Saburo Hashimoto in Katsuo Toronto. Cool we are very tippy top of Castle River in nineteen ninety four in New York City and this is pretty much are setting for the foreseeable future. Yeah we opened up. Today's episode in the lobby of xanthos tower. Where Owen Burnett do deluxe is men's servant? He spinning a yarn spinning a tale to explain all of the the nonsense. That was happening. That I'm pretty sure have left dead. The streets covered in rubble. Chaos fire hydrants spewing water. It's hell out there man. It looks like a scene from as or something. Yeah yeah he says. A newly installed generator exploded. He's telling all this to detective Maza or is I'm decided to call her. Detective Dream Boat so and my detective. Dream Boat Yeah she does. She doesn't buy nobody buys. Who's going to buy this insane? Yeah she claims to have heard automatic weapons from the street and I call absolute shenanigans because as we know. This tower is stories. Thousand Feet Tall. Yeah it's in the stratosphere men barely breathe it they're it makes sense that she would hear explosions from the bombs and things that they had going off here in the Oh. I can tell. That's an automatic weapons machine guns from seventy five thousand feet in the sky. I'm sorry there's no way point being because of all the again they chaos. Yeah and I don't like that we already can't trust detective Dream Boat. Yeah so I mean. And she's you know obviously concerned detective of New York City. She wants to know what's going down. Picked her curiosity and all that so of course she's like I don't buy this. I'm GonNa go get a warrant or something and owens is like whatever fine. Come on so he takes her to the elevator that leads up to the castle. What the Liz. Yes so the elevator already existed in the building skyscraper and then they somehow expanded the elevator shaft to go into the castle. The only way that would make sense to me is if they built a completely separate one like you know how there are some buildings you take it to the top floor and then you get on a different elevator. They did something like that. Like A freight elevators. It's not a direct so you're saying that it is cut out where they got to the top of the elevator crossed. The building took a new elevator up. Even be my guess. I'm the creator of the show. Didn't think about that until you're just headed. Go STRAIGHT UP TO THE CASTLE. Construction of this entire thing really especially in this episode had me really fascinated because we see later on. I got notes but we see seemingly new rooms castle and multiple elevators and there's a TV room so we'll get there still seems like there's like a dungeon which is normally like underground and like how I don't get it. I WANNA see basement on top of a skyscraper like I don't understand I wanNA see some detailed architectural drawings great towers Annatto so as you mentioned they go up and in walks deluxe. Actually he basically tells the truth. Let's listen to him. Admit mostly everything that just happened. Oh and was a little confused. That's the press. The truth is at my men repelled. An invasion by a rival corporation trying to steal some of our new technology repelled an invasion your private citizens Annatto Sonata Country Protective. I am the owner of a multinational corporation. Which is bigger than many countries? You could name kind of surprising. Yeah I mean he manages to tell the truth and the most library way possible right but also like Oh yeah you know another rival expensive tech company like can you imagine if like apple and Google into wars like that not Google but I can't imagine Elon. Musk and steve jobs doing that. Yeah yeah that's not. How Business Works Jack Dorsey from twitter and Square Saint Louis Hero? Yeah Yeah Yeah hemion would get in on it. Yeah they'd be fighting and love and you know all's Fair in love and does men. Love is so what he doesn't mention here is that is men are ancient winged million reptile things right again. He told the truth or version of it. I like how you say. He said some smug shit about being super rich and in my notes I was like God. He's so fucking full of himself out is the richest man in the city. Shit happens right and we're all like what are you talking about? You tell if he's delusional. Does he think this is actually normal or is he just trying to play it off to get her out the door? I can tell that's interesting because we don't know we're being introduced to this new world but we've already seen and I'm still holding fast. That this is a setup. He attacked himself essentially. We've seen two major tech billionaires go added in one way or another here against you mentioned the automatic weapon bullshit. This castle is literally above the clouds. That's the whole premise of the show. Right above the fucking clouds clouds. How high they are a million feet. Is that scientific? Yeah I looked at up. Yeah I thought about it. It's high it is being all right. Well so from there we cut to the brogue oils. Scoping out the new digs. The kitchen scene cracked me up. Like of course the three of them are causing absolute mayhem in this. Like super fancy totally deluxe Kitchen Lux's deluxe kitchen exactly and they're just making big giant messes and the big one is just like in food heaven. Liz I gotTa ask you a question Dea. Think Deluxe is going to use the castle to live in. This kitchen was obviously was not there before right and I mentioned that the TV room will get to later. What is his plan here? What are we doing here? He I assume he lived elsewhere in that giant skyscraper. Up until construction of the castle is plans are I. Don't know what what what is that. Called the top floor or two of a big building like the sweet. I assumed he would have lived there right if he lived in his own building. Like I don't see him having separation of business from home life. He probably sleeps in his office half the time. Especially since buildings so big. Yeah he could have fifteen floors of just are indeed and still live at the very top. Yeah my guess is I live in my castle now. Seems like the Dude. Who would do that? Yeah well is the king of his literal castle. Now all right okay. I mean that doesn't explain why. The kitchen is so huge. That's like a restaurant style kitchen. Maybe he's thinking he'll like do an airbnb situation in the castle or maybe it's for all those parties and Balls Hill have in the castle so he needs to have a full catering staff you know he's got the biggest balls of the mall so the comedic boy it gets locked in the walk in and we cut to the courtyard Liz. There is a courtyard at the top of an already incredibly tall skyscraper in the middle of Manhattan. What is this world that we're taking place in right now? What is happening? How is there a courtyard trees? I mean how else would he have greenspace New York? He can't just by prospect park. I mean he probably could look. Could I guess the flu tons and tons of dirt and trees because people have forty five million feet up into the sky? Don't understand distance. No I feel like there's lots of tall buildings that have like garden space and all that but I don't think there's a difference between like ancient oaks at the top of the difference between having flowers and trees also contributes survived that high up. Well mountains like there. There's a very specific trees that are up there. They're not oaks pines and the temperature up. There's got to be chilly in the open air. I mentioned that a couple times later on so. Did someone just knit all these trees sweaters? I don't understand botany fair. Listen I'M A gargoyles expert? Not a tree expert. Yeah all right all right. So on out to tell deluxe the kitchen shenanigans. There's issues with his new house guests over. He puts it obviously not being like the girls are fucking shit up. Can you can't mention gargoyles around Detective Dream Boat? Liz Isn't this. What fucking only gets paid to deal with. Yeah why isn't he dealing with? Why is deluxe? GotTa go mess with this Shit. Because we never even see him. Go into the kitchen and talk to them later on. They just come out of the kitchen. Yeah so maybe Owen knows that they don't trust him and the only listen to I fair. I don't trust own either. Snivelling little fuck boy. Deluxe goes to the kitchen. Owen walks out detective dream boat. Suddenly she looks up and sees when Devil. Man What could it be just like what the fuck you looking at? You just go already. We're dealing with Shit. I have so many so many things I have to take care of away. And he leaves her at. The elevator doesn't walk her down to the lobby. I mean it's a detective when he thinks she was going to do right. Liz What does she do? She is like this. Investigation is not over yet. I'm going to go explore in my own. And then she does and she finds things things. She shouldn't be seen like a Gargoyles Gurgle so she starts and she finds dog oil. That's not great. No and she's freaking out. It's a baby oil. As we have discussed she then is freaking out and suddenly. Goliath show at this huge. Yeah he's like eight or nine feet tall compared to her. I I mean maybe she's really short but I mean I'm pretty sure he's just giant towers over all the other gargoyles true he does yeah. He's a big boy and he is having no more this gunplay bullshit so he grabs her piss off her hands. Crushes it like a piece of paper? She's terrified as any normal person would be seems appropriate. And Yeah and so. She's backing away and trips. Over the edge of the castle and starts plummeting. She pushes back with Enough Force. That she topples over. Like what is she made of paper? Did she just flow overboard? What the fuck was that was dramatic what it was physics. Here's one thing that we overlooked when Owen Walk Sir to that elevator. That's a different elevator. They put multiple elevators into this castle. Because this is the one that's attached to the courtyard. They walk across the courtyard from the interior. Where we're introducing to deluxe and then to completely different elevator if you a billionaire who than sense when you went all the elevators you're right. I want one that goes sideways like Willy. Wonka MAGIC ELEVATOR. Was We need to take a break? Because we're about to witness the gruesome death of detective. Dream Boat and I just need to steal myself. So we'll be back. Hey there listeners. Are you into Alpha male bad ass ladies and happily ever after then checkout another great calamity cast podcast of the week where chat with my other two co host but everything we love in some time straight about both writing and reading romance novels so grab a glass of wine get comfortable and let's get down and dirty about romance find it on calamity cast dot com or wherever you find your podcast and we are back so when we left you we were watching detective dreamcoat plummet to her death. Yeah was pretty gruesome. I mean she was turned into Major Street Pizza. Yeah it's weird that they introduced the character shoes three scenes and then they just kill her. Yeah wild goes diving after her. Yeah you know GLIDE GETS TO IGNORE PHYSICS HERE. Yes because unless these somehow able to fall faster than her she did well. I don't know diving right. She's like tumbling and falling gonNA drive. Explain this no making up. His as we know he can't fly so he can accelerate what his wings help with. I don't know what people do the sky gliding and shit like that isn't like depending how you have your wings makes you go faster or slower. I think you would have to close them so that you would fall faster where he swings open our close. Even if they're closed she fell I. She's falling before him hesitated a little bit before he died. So they're falling at the same rate but there's a time difference. I think about the weight difference. I don't know he's giant so what he fall faster. I don't know if how fast they would have to fall to reach. Terminal Velocity Math in physics people. Figure this out for us. I gotTa feel like there's no way that he could realistically save her but he does because apparently cartoons they don't have to be based in real world. They sat down on a nearby rooftop and she is immediately condescending. Let's listen to a little bit of her overstepping. Okay just take it easy you doing in Mike Castle Talk. Who What are you? My Kind. Have no names but you humans. Call Me Goliath. Liz. Did you notice the female gaze? There she looks up and down. She's got this looking around like I don't know warm looking at but I do know I wanna fuck it like I mean right now. We'll also the Adrenalin of like just almost dying. Of course he wants to fuck something like I almost died so I got a fucks up onto that loincloth. Oh God she's like what are you gonNA says? We have no names but you call us. What does he know he's he? He knows to their gargoyles. He knows that but he was saying that she's like well. What's your name? And he's like she says what are you and then caused gargoyles. What do you call yourself? What are you talking about so you have a name. That gargoyles don't typically have names as we learned in the first episode. But he's like. Your people called Me Goliath. So my question was why did the people give him a proper name but not any of his buddies is a just because he's the leader and he's who they interacted with the most. I guess but as we talked about in the first episode. It's pretty safe to assume that geriatric jerry used to be the leader. He's got no name also. Does he mean you people? Call Me Goliath everybody. All the other gargoyles call him go. I guess maybe they just picked up on his mother. Fucking name is Goliath. Quit being like oh you y'all We don't have names but I guess y'all can come and go. I was like no other gargoyles. Call you Goliath. Do you think that's how names work homey? It's just what your call. Do you think one day he was just like you know what I do want to name. I'm GonNa just claim that the human psychological is so they don't call themselves. Glad you know. I'm glad I'm glad guys and they're like put your friend. No no no no. I'm Goliath you all just friend Goliath. I'm GONNA RIP that stupid white hair and he's like he's gotta go. I should say way. Take me down there or I need to go back up there. And he's like will I can't fly. Can you just fly back up there? So insulting? So just insinuating that because he's got wings he can fly insensitive and then he's like actually lady. I can't lie. I just glide. He like grabs her and tosses her on his back. I'll sexy like hold on and then starts clawing up the side of the building. Trust me fine. I mean it's even better dies okay. Yeah I trust you. Dizzy really likes men. Telling women to trust them. Would you care to back them up with other examples Aladdin? You can't trust that lying sack of shit either. Do Trust me no trust me. Come on jump off a roof with me on this carpet. I WANNA get into Aladdin but no structural integrity a carpet. All right like you mentioned Glenn Throws Jimbo on his back and climbs seventy four thousand feet. I think is what we decided back to the top of Mount Castle woven and it must've taken forever bright because all jokes aside skyscrapers pretty tall climbing hand over hand and it's cold and he's got the extra weight on his back. How long do you think took five hours five hours? Write it down that's cannon and like that means she's grouping him along and just being like a hookah. She's freezing her hands. I'm sure they're get cold and when when called her hands. Get the hardest to like hold on or on the other side of she's nervous. She might be sweating. I would be like I'm going to accidentally go here. I go out and he gets to the top without even breaking a sweat is so the next day they finally make it to the top of the cast glass. Want some Goddamn answers. What are you doing here? Why didn't he ask that at the first roof that they were the safer roof? Yeah he mentioned. What are you doing here? What's going on? And then she falls off and then he just wants to leave on the low roof. Doesn't we get here again. What are you doing here? And she gets scared to nothing ending cycle and I guess she tells them we don't get to see her explanation because we cut to the rest of the Gargoyles as they are leaving the kitchen from the distance. They see goliath talking to a whom on and head up to join the conversation sheriff. It's just a weird cut away. I guess so that when they showed up in the scene we weren't like wow. Did they get here? But we must part of potentially a crucial conversation rate which hinted at so then. Goliath has gone onto the entire story that we saw over the previous episodes and detective dream just like okay. Cool your ancient beast Scotland Stone. I buy it all make sense. Yeah and she's not a good detective because I've I've seen TV before. I've watched television and anytime I see a detective. They don't believe anything that anyone is saying because they want to see the proof to evidence even the fucking idiots in Brooklyn nine nine like they need a little bit more to go someday. I'll watch a show. It's not great in my opinion. Oh really everyone. Everyone's always like lazy like shows. You need to watch Liz. You might enjoy that show. I've watched almost all of it because I'll watch anything anyway. So the oils are introduced to their new detective pal and they get a quick lesson on the modern judicial system. Let's take listen already. What exactly does a detective do well when somebody does something wrong. Who ARRESTS THEM? Who says what's wrong. Well we have a justice system laws penalties assessments that the people decide that humans decide human. Yeah man nothing other than humans that like are alive and functioning yeah dogs. Don't get to participate in the judicial system. Sorry they don't get to vote. We didn't know about gargoyles until right. The fuck now chills. What about the vampires? And what about the ghosts where wolves do get a vote? I Dunno where Goliath has like. You gotTA leave. Get the fuck Outta here. And it's never explained why he's really jumping and detective dream. Boat is completely enamored and really wants to see. What's under that loincloths? Oh she convinces him before I go. Would you say we read up tomorrow? Don't get to know you a little better. Wait you're leaving but I love. You already don't go. Hoti hang out with me again. Hey I mean we will get Sushi trays like you. We can go for a walk in the park in the afternoon only at night. She's like a nights even better the night. Yeah I can dig it. Now is not as many people around it weird. She's like how about here and he does know that building over there one which I mean. I guess she's a detective so she can just figure out belting whatever building she wants but all right good so detective dream boat leaves and fuck boy and shows up to some Goliath. You know you ask. If he has the time you do not summon Goliath. Nobody Summons Goliath Daniela Summons you. Yeah now we're end Alexis office and apparently you know like. Oh yeah you know I brought you here for a reason like no shit scummy scumbag and it's like. Oh It's not just. He wants him to protect the castle. Suddenly it's like oh I want you to go on these missions before me and got a job for you yeah go. It's like what that's not what we do. We're not your little lackeys. We're not your Aaron Boys but Liz they are well. They just so team helmet from last night's raid. They are tonight. Was it earlier. I have no sense of time. I think it's still tonight earlier in the you know what? Let's do this in the previous episode team. Helmets stole some hard disks. That deluxe wants back. You think that he would have something better than a hard disk. Yeah like a news ninety four but like he's a tech billionaire like Shirley he has the top of the line shit that the rest of the public doesn't even know about yet. Yeah well I mean. As we learn there are evil. Scientists they're competing. Scientists are going to crack the encryption on these discs. And I think that's what he's worried about. I'm sure these aren't the only copies of whatever the hell's on them but wants to prevent them from doing what they're gonNA do. Yeah so he's got these hard disks and he also he talks to glide in such a condescending manner. And I'm just WANNA play a little bit it because it makes me mad. That team who attacked US earlier stole something very important for me. The box took contained three of these hard disks disks them as magic talismans each one containing hundreds of spells. It is vitally important that you and your friends get them back for me. Perhaps you should use a detective spell books and he doesn't want him to get the to learn the magic in the go. It doesn't need to know what the fuck he's talking him out. Go get the thing from the case. Don't condescend him as I guess. That's my I get so worked up that they're so mean to him and he. The magic spells need to think about a minutes. Anything shut up and it's like well. Why do you need me? Why can't you just ask detective? Quick Study Yeah. And he's like. Oh well no file a police report. Asphalt. We me alone can't do that. Which obviously he can't shady shit going down. Yeah so we find out. Has this whole scheme and the disc been split up? And they're being decoded in three separate locations throughout the city which is just bonkers and let's take a listen to it because he can explain it better than we can. Stolen data are being held at three different locations. The first is a research center on a small island in the bag. The second is deep beneath a city in a heavily fortified base and the third is being kept in a huge airforce. That flies a holding pattern over the city. All three places must be hit simultaneously so none will be able to notify the others. It seems an absurd amount of protection. I know the rest assured the information is that important. Why do you want us to help? You must be done before. Their scientist break the encryption codes before they translate the spells. Liz Don't think it be easier to just hire a team of mercenaries or I'm sure he's got a private police force that he has on his payroll. There's so much extra effort nation involved in order for any shit to make sense to Goliath. And here's another problem. I had there is a floating fortress flying around in a holding pattern above. New York's No one asks about right so you mean to tell me Rudy fucking Giuliani. America's mayor would allow that to happen. He wouldn't even let fucking graffiti exist in the subway system. Yeah suddenly like wait are we. America's hero Rudy Giuliani. That sentence will remain true. Always at that point when they're showing us the flying fortress and when we recently is like a fucking steam punk. Tv show like what is happening. We're in an episode of teenage mutant. Ninja Turtles Okay. Everything else has been you know other moving castle in this and that everything else pretty realistic you know other than the Gargoyles. Yeah other than every for some reason that flying fortress. I was like wait what Liz is done. This is her last episode of the vendors of the night. She's like oh no I was with you until you had a flying fortress. What a weird line to line in the sand fortresses at the top of skyscrapers yes in the air. No he just put the castle on a Flying Fortress fucking castle so glad he's like no. I don't WanNa do that. This is a bad idea. But deluxe uses the BUZZWORD for gargoyles which is be. You don't want people to know about you. You could be locked up and you would be betrayed glides like fuck. I hate being portrayed okay. I hate betrayal. They'll do scientific experiments on you and they'll hurt your people and and glasses like what the fuck is science true. He doesn't know what the fuck that means. Goliath pieces out. Yeah and then and a door open store opens lose and we see the shadowy figure of Lady Gaga Hill fully been introduced yet because we haven't been like in this lady Gaga Oil. But if you're paying attention you definitely see. It's her glory is the they didn't try to hide it. That hard. No was clearly her shape and even the kind of shadow wasn't enough to like completely black her out could be myst- mystery figure like it was totally lady mcharg oil survive. That is a good question. How troubling us. We'll never know I'm sure they will. They explain things show. They're not communicating to children. Well I think that's an excellent spot to take a little break. Okay thanks for listening. Help others find our show by rating and reviewing tunes checkout calamity cast dot com for even more content and follow us on facebook twitter and instagram. To get in touch and let us know how we're doing if you like what you hear and he want to help. Keep the lights on. Consider becoming a regular calamity casts contributor on Patriot. Or if you'd like to make a one time donation you can do so at pay pal dot me slash clammy casts. We appreciate your support and your donations. Truly make a difference. Liz were back. We are the defenders of the night. And we're here to talk about the awakening part three. Yeah this is the following night on the building over the area as the sun sets over New York City the Gargoyles wake up and I immediately. I have a question for you. Yes they turn to stone at dawn top to bottom inside and out. They are stone when they wake up. They break out of stone like it flex off of their skin like some kind of casing shore. Is it supposed to be like a cocoon type situation you think? I don't know you know when I never questioned to this right. You know when a caterpillar builds itself a cocoon it spins a little cocoon around body. Before it becomes a butterfly the Caterpillar entirely liquefies. It digests itself in rebuilds into an entirely new thing insane. Do you think that they're rebuilding themselves every night? Inside that stone. I don't know and is it restorative like if they get hurt and then they turned out in the wake up. Are they better? That's a really good question. I I wonder if the shows can answer that part because that yeah. I like that especially I mean. They're the defenders of the night right. They're gonNA get hurt at some point right cartoons are weird so the Braga are like. Hey Big Gee we would like no the area this is where we live now right. It would make sense to understand this new world. He's like no no. No you stay here but come all right. My son's you convince me. They're definitely I mean he calls them. They're his wards Dick Grayson but like it's totally a kid and dad kind of situation going on like come on. I wanted to do this. And they're like what if he's like. Okay he's just get out of my hair with that logic then we moved to the rooftop over there and I have to assume detective. Dream Boat is breaking and entering because again. She's just on the roof of random building. This I an empty warehouse. Is this an apartment building? Is this a a rival company? We do not know. Maybe she killed everyone on the way up. What she's into it's true she's still a mystery. It could be a sex dungeon. Maybe knew that in his heart and she's she's got to meet up with what she thinks. Is Her new boyfriend. Yeah I mean. Look how quickly. She kinda got goliath wrapped around her. Little finger maybe she just her way up to the top of the building. You're probably right. Goliath comes out from hiding and Ramones. Like why are you hiding like? He didn't get into a massive gun battle last night with crazy armored goons Jesse man but also like people don't know he exists but he's a dragon man you know didn't react well to seen him for the first time I wouldn't she be like. Oh yeah it makes sense that you need to be in the shadows. No because she knows that everyone in that building is dead. There's nothing yeah fair. She's like I took care of it for you deal. It's fine I just WanNa love you forever to be mine and then Jerry jumps down like Haya just want to make sure you're okay in an attempt to make sure that no one gets ambushed. He ambushes them so they're talking. Oh my God. This is one of my favorite part. So we're not quite there yet. But the look that Jerry just gives Goliath like totally like are you fucking kidding me right now just because there's one pretty face you're going to do the stupid Shit Collides thousand years. You're not wrong but also stop cock blocking me chatting Jerry. Injury Motor getting to know each other. They trade some verbal barbs and she just wanted to know his name and he's like what does everything have to have a name like the sky name does. It's called the sky. The river have a name. Think actually. Yes it's the Hudson line and I will also be thoughts and she had Hudson Nice to meet you. Yeah he's like. Does that body of water having aimed that one right there and like yeah so now we have two named Gargoyles. He's like a God. I'm Hudson to were all very. We're all edson now. Wanted to call gargoyles before. Now we're Hudson's Idaho care he takes off he's like Oh everything's cool all right but so we'll go back home and watch TV. I guess so. Goliath was like all right. Well she's good show the city and she's like show me the city and she's like okay. Well how's this GONNA work? Let me just scoop you up in my Manley arms. And then they had. They had this whole like she kind of had his her hand to his chest to. Oh my detective. Mazda IS SOAKED. Boy Hoo yeah in Jerry. His Hudson now we to call them hot not geriatric Jerry. More got an this is when he just gives Goliath a look. You and yours Hudson's just like Fuck not this again okay. I'M OUT BY. Its very awkwardly like okay puts. It's really uncomfortable for him to suddenly be calling someone else by a name but was like wow. I thought this was not a level playing field but I guess we all have names. You guys think you're on my level. Okay God and we take to this guy. I mean all right if you were going on a first date. Yeah which I know. It's been a fucking longtime so you've had a first date. It's been fifteen years. Yeah and if some dreaming dreaming person or Gargoyles in this case is like hey hey buddy I date fly you around Newark City. Be Terrified fucking terrified. There's not a seat belt. That is true. Gary yet again. He's just holding her and not even like in a grip. He's like a baby. Kinda you know. He's he's got. He's got detective remote in his scoop. Yeah like a cat and I was gonNA say he does the way that like people always talk about carrying someone over the threshold your wedding for your wedding night or whatever. He's that kind of hold. Yeah it's not safe what that hinder his gliding abilities. I mean it's definitely going to. He's got to rework the math in his head. Because he's carrying senile bright. Yeah and up in the air like that. They're flying. Through the city. Those giant buildings they create wind tunnels in nothing but a windbreaker and dkny jeans. She's freezing her tits live. Come on you didn't bring a blanket or nothing those genes list you want to get into the genes now or should we wait. We'll wait we'll wait for the end of that was Boy There's listeners. We got jeans concerns so they're flying or gliding and talking about how great the city is or how things have changed and the first thing is like everything so different stone streets. You were attacked by a helicopter. He's like I haven't seen anything that nice the Romans made roads. Oh you believe it dude. You're flying over car you know. It's a small things in life that make him happy. Yeah it's like wow asthma. We cut back to the castle. Simple Pleasures Goliath. Likes the simple things in life. So yes the castle. Go on please back at home. Hudson and dog oil are walking around. They're kind of bored. He's the only one home really does look like I don't know what to do because the broke out on their adventure. Goliath is out on his date. You'll go kershaw you and me dog. Oh the dog can't fly ears. Don't help him gliding. Find a small room. That has a big screen. Tv and a recliner. Why is this here? I don't know like it makes. No sense is deluxe hanging out late at night in his little TV room. What is this for? It's not like it's like? Oh here's the theater room right. It's like Oh here's my Dan News at one of those big security centers with like twenty screens. This is how he gets his entertainment. He's got a lazy boy. A little side table and a Zenith TV. Yup Okay I mean do you think that Hudson and deluxe just chill out eating popcorn just watching? Well what were they watching the nineteen ninety-four married with children? Because I do I think so. So Hudson sits on the chair. And it's like Whoa. What is this and like the leg thing comes out? He's like Oh this is real. It is and he's just a rock in like an old man. Are you a fan of recliners? I don't have on though I used to one and I love that damn thing so much but I actually really like couches that have like the reclining sections. Yeah I wish I had one of those one day. Maybe get in all kinds of good positions that way. Yeah homeboy Oh boy. What are we doing here Liz? And then he turned on the TV. And of course it's going to be blaring some bad ass rock music. Yeah that's deluxe turned off back to doing business still watching MTV or vh one like what is this and it scares the shit out of him and oh so they go running off this. I loved this scene so much. We moved to the main streets of New York City. We're down street. Level and a couple is making their way to dinner and their car dies mental the street. Liz who the fuck. Let's this happen. Did he run out of Gas Lou? Maybe 'cause it sounds like the the ignition was at working like turning over not starting and all that he knows Liz. This exchange had me laughing so loud. I literally was echoing throughout my house. I think let's go ahead and play it because it's ridiculous don't tell me this is charming undiscovered bistro behind that dumpster. Give it a rest margot cut dammit. Margot Brinton just wanted to take you out for a Nice Dinner. And you're being an asshole for no fucking raisin in what world especially in the early nineties was forty grand cheap for a car. Think she's just being a Dick write. My car was twenty thousand dollars and I was like. Oh my God. It's so much money and forty G. Nine hundred ninety. She's like this piece of Shit. I mean it's probably a nice lexus. Fucking and Brenton let it run out of gas. He's a fair he is an idiot. I understand her anger regarding that. But she's also just a bitch anyway so can margot rending gets out of the car and is like oh. I'll fix it and she's like you can't even like do the most basic of. I don't know why you think you can fix us but okay go ahead. You CAN'T TOAST BREAD. And she's out there or he's out there trying to look at the hood and everything and suddenly some youth. I can't really tell like violent youth gang. What are you talking about these young teenagers? Who are clearly in their forty. Yeah Yeah it was ridiculous like these. Three criminals are just like who there buddy. You're at our territory. Passport shows papers Blah Blah Blah and. He's like I don't have that much cash on me but here take it. And they're like that was the wrong answer and then they're going to fight him by then. The tech dreamcoat suddenly shows up. She swoops in on her Her wing boyfriend. Oh Hey I got this situation. And she's like follow me and take some down a dark alley Goliath fuck shit up. She is in violent criminals. Yeah like girl what. We don't know how they're armed as she seems really excited by those like she seemed super into it. She was already excited. She setting up some jerk off for later. She's like. I know how this is going to play out and I'M GONNA commit it to the old memory banks God. She's into some weird shit. She wants to see a giant reptile million. We still don't know just beat the Fuck. Outta some guys and this is a great way to keep a low profile. I mean we're going to assume. Did he kill they? Take off running. He just gets other beat him. Up Margaret Brennan. Definitely take. Yes they run away he may kill these three or maybe. He knocks him unconscious. No I like mine better edge. She's like amateur -tective. I support this message. I support this decision. Like what. Okay but at least Brendan in possibly Margot. They actually see the laugh because for whatever reason margot gets out of the car. What's going on over there? Boehner go check it out. It's me margot maker of good decisions and the C. Three men get murdered by the devil himself and then they take off right. Yup. Let's go check on the Braga oils. They nearly kill a guy. Oh my head so the little green one is i. What is that cool thing? And it's a motorcycle and he's like BRB is. I didn't go check this. Oh and you soups down. And he's like wow. The Raider is understandably truck year. And does he dive off the what happens? No he lost control and like I don't think he dove off of it. Like the motorcycle tipped over on he was. He gets thrown off the motorcycle. Crashes into a wall causing thousands of dollars of property damage and then read guys like dude. Glass said we're not supposed to let anyone see us. And then we cut to the next scene where this fucking walking around and I would assume a central park taking a stroll understand that back then more so than now. The park was a really really dangerous place to be at nights like people stayed clear of it for the most part. Okay yeah by color do is probably maybe like three o'clock in the morning at this point we don't know but it was his idea to stick to the rooftops. He said that yeah. He very quickly. Losing control of I don't know like his beliefs. He's changing already for you. Yeah that's exactly and he's like Oh she wants to go for a stroll in the park and I wanna get this thousand year old de wet. So let's only got killed me so I guess we're GONNA go for a stroll in the park. Those Lee jeans are really convincing. It's true so Lizzie. Our I'm crying. We continue or do you need a break. No let's go all right. We're almost at the end of the episode so Liz. They're doing this unsafe stroll through the park there. Chatting. They're flirting. They are most definitely taking the long stroll down. Fuck too sexy time station when more. Goddamn Helmet Troops Shaw. So they show up. They shoot glass with a tranquilizer DART and they attacked detective. Dream Boat and she's NYPD so they just assaulted an officer that is bad news bears. Yeah looks like that sixty times throw a bad idea. You dumb asses stuck to the rooftop like he said boy. Stop thinking giant. Dick Goliath this. You would at least it's proportional to the body and he's like nine feet. Tall disgust might be seventeen feet tall again. I don't understand length or distance. God I just sorry. I got real worried for her lady. Bits with this is about a children's show the episode ends with one of the troops straight up preparing to kill Goliath. And we get a dramatic music sting and it's over man the to be continued. I don't remember the first to having to be continued did they? I don't remember either. Jeremy Happened to sit down next to me like when my husband was like wait. It's a to be continued was like well. This is actually five parts of so I. I was like honestly. I don't remember if the others were to be continued. Or if it's because the other ones I feel like at least had like an Arc. Beginning end definitely is in the middle of the chaos. So I don't know that's a good point. Well we're going to take one more quick break. We'RE GOING TO FINISH UP OUR EPISODE. Which is not to be continued. Or maybe it is 'cause awakenings five per what will be walk along after tragedy strikes. Lusa truly nicer to come back for the funeral. Dnd GROUP UNITES. A up man to celebrate the life of a friend tank until some thing happens. Now they're struggling to survive in a world they don't understand grew as they failed for time and space in an epic podcast from the calamity cast network dropping subscribe to it beginner's guide to monetary destruction. That's what I'm calling my penis as eight seconds ago right so Daniel. What did you think about this episode? There were some interesting elements out to today's episode of the sexual tension between detective. Dreamy Goliath. They're not gonna go because of course. This is a children's show. They're not GonNa go where I think you really want. We're never going to get there. We're going to have to maybe cover some fantastic. Yes some extra episodes. They definitely play the romantic tension and relationship of those two throughout like most of the show. Because I feel like when lady gargoyles shows that there's a love triangle that was the old power company. This new one with Goliath dream job. She's got real power she's NYPD. Would you think I really liked it? I think this has been my favorite of the three so far. But I think mostly because we're actually moving forward what plot in not just establishing what the show is. It's wild that is taking so long to name the other Gargoyles to. Oh Yeah I did not remember that at all I mean I knew. They got their names in New York because of what their names in being but have is that voice actor known for anything. That's Ed Asner in. You are familiar with Ed. Asner rust me. I am so shocked to learn that as of this recording as nurses still alive was born November Fifteenth Nineteen Twenty nine in Kansas City Missouri. I did not know that now. He's been an actor for many many many many years. But I'm going to go to the a number one at asner voice acting role that I know that you've seen he was the old man up. That is ED. He was an Elf. Who enough. I've never seen many times many times many times. Are you sure because he was Santa? Only I don't know this dude look like so. That's a fair point. You've never seen that asner before. But you have because he was Santa but also you know Santa has beard and all that like Oh okay. Let's not blame beards and not knowing things to shave your beard and you walk down the street and be like Philip. Fuck that dude anyway. All right I know Daniel when you were watching this episode you were texting me systems. Green Chats you text me quite a bit regarding detective dream votes pants do you. Thin hair booty. It's absurd how they they focused on it in a children's cartoon in the mid nineties do you think those are actually jeans or do you think they're leggings. I think they're actually genes like just thinking about how genes were back in the nineties when you could buy tight jeans. But they didn't really have like J. Games the way that they do now didn't really have stretchy denim. It was probably like actual data go back and forth because sometimes she has visible pockets. And sometimes she doesn't but she's always got a scene wipe down or crotch. There's no fly drawn there's zipper drawn. It's just the line tightest jeans possible. It doesn't look very comfortable especially not for kicking like she's running around. I can only assume things are going to change. It seems like they're so tight. They're gonNA fucking splitter down the middle. It was funny because I noticed when she was at the elevator is. We're just like if you saw. Because he is her so he has to look down but straight down to like her ass right on down to that. Don't speaking of clothing in general. Do you foresee the gargoyles getting anything? Besides wine clubs by the end of the series aside from Hudson who is wearing clothes right. He's got leggings and a shirt and sandals and Paul drancy got Aldrin's to keep his shoulders safe doesn't the red one get close when he. You're watching it on Disney plus two. That is a screen shot. Yeah Yeah so you are right. I don't know the context there seen it. We have seen it man. Can you imagine putting Goliath in some jeans? She can she is. It's I'm uncomfortable. Gives them like Nice? Ask kicking motorcycle boots. Oh boy and a fast no-shirt just a fast. How do shirts work with wings? Hemi huddled pants work with tales. There's a button that goes over the tail so in class just just like the front does with the button like if you had your Dick hanging out could button over it was you know how sometimes you have your digging out to the fly. It's it's backflow is what it is is a back fly so I assume that you can do like a shirt the same way where you would button or snap under the wing. You know what I'm trying to say is I'm developing a line of clothing. Four gargoyles fagged Clinton Caspian clothing. While it's that you claim his calamity casts. I never mentioned a partnership or anything. It's more or less solo endeavor but not I guess well is. Episode of defenders of the night is in the bag as has become customary. We'd like to thank in McGowan for composing. Our various interstitial music heard throughout the show. Check him out on Instagram and twitter at easy underscore breezy underscore Mac. That's E as Z. Y. Breezy underscore. Mac and check out his band. 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Episode 107: Righteous Hog, Man

Defenders Of The Night

48:26 min | 6 months ago

Episode 107: Righteous Hog, Man

"Welcome everyone we are defenders the night, the most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favourite mid-nineties animated program, a good good good good. I'm your host Daniel William. I'm your host, Liz Urkel we are back once again. Discussing of course Gargoyles, we are still in season one today. We're discussing episode seven temptation. Like my new on Mike Voice, ideal I like it a lot I'm going to lose it. It's I can't do it forever. Tell the dates on this episode. Oh this episode. Temptation aired November Eleventh Nineteen ninety-four. We are well into the one a week model. It was directed by Saburo Hashimoto in Katsuo Toronto and it was written by Brin. Chandler reaves a new writer. It's a lady. into she is an emmy nominated writer known for her work on Spiderman. The animated series, motherfucking Batman the animated series and teenage mutant Ninja Turtles among other things they must love her list. Here's a fun fact for him. At one point Bryn Chandler reaves was the highest paid female animation writer in. Luck. Yeah, you, go, girl, you go, woman! Sorry, yeah. We're GONNA. Try some things a little differently today before we dive into today's episode, you and I want to remind everyone that five star ratings and reviews God it. They're just the best. And if listeners left one for our show, you could be awesome to with your help I know. We can get to the very top of the gargoyles. PODCAST charged. There are at least two more and I, just WANNA trout's those mother fuckers? Yes, and we're obviously the best anyway or the best because we are the hosts. Yes, there was some stars like some thumbs up I don't know I'm old. Whatever the kids are doing these days? Good to us. We want gargoyles episode seven showy. We start off in the mean streets of New York City. We opened up on Donatello. Lexington apparently building a homemade motorcycle many questions immediately. Would you like to hit me with them? Yes, how? Okay. I? Get it. He's the handy one the smart one but like. Where the fuck are you guys gathering pieces to build this thing? How did you learn how to weld? Where did you get a welding machine? From Yeah I have to assume that we have transported five to ten years into the future Lexington has spent all that time learning how to build motorcycles among other things. In fact, it's only been a week. Yeah can one week of his motorcycle looked at me, dropped your hands to the sides and said I'm angry chicken to China to Chinese. Chicken. Liz Brooklyn finally got his motorcycle shop I was really excited. I didn't realize it happened that early in the season. Yeah, would you care to explain to me how he already knows how to write it? I also wrote that question you. You are clueless as well. Okay cool. I did appreciate the fact that he was practicing motorcycle safety and had a helmet. Yeah, just jammed his fingers right through the top of it for his horns is strong the strength of his gargoyles. It's all over the place man. Yeah, but he looked awfully good in those sunglasses and leather, jacket and sunglasses at night. Always a good look when you're on a motorcycle. Okay! Is, he goes out for joyriding. He's fucking love and life. Okay. He doesn't even realize he's being followed by another Garg Oil. He's enjoying himself so much. And suddenly he's got the POPO on his back. fucking five Oh man. Yeah Pena's wants to live his life. Why did the pigs always got to be out for US Freewheeling Dragon men? I liked how like every cartoon ever? The police were busy eating doughnuts. It's a classic bit. Overdone at all. It's comedy gold. It always works. Was I'm drinking this terrible red wine and I'm not gonNA. Stop and drinking our Rosa and it's delicious. Okay Brooklyn is being tailed by the cops. They're trying to pull him over for driving. While gargoyles suddenly his wings come out of the back of his jacket. Even though when he sat down on his motorcycle, he wrapped them around his torso and put the jacket on over. So how did they unfurl any fucked up his jacket? Yeah, first off is weird. Seen him wrap himself with his wings. I was like okay and I guess that makes sense if we're GonNa, we're close. That's what you gotTa do, but I didn't like it looked weird. And then he takes flight. I'm going to say. He Glides Away Holding his motorcycle strength. Even though previously we saw him struggle with the weight of a Limp Lexington. Also seen him carrying two grown. Viking, yeah, that's what I'm saying Ari the strength of a gargoyles on this show civically. Brooklyn Steroids JUISTON game. All I'm saying is is a little consistency too much to ask for Liz I. No. anyways, so he mentioned to escape from the police, and alone behold there was a whole biker gang going by right at that moment coincident great timing, so he decides he wants to join them. They learn. No. Lexington just went through this last week. Hey, strangers, what could go wrong and every time are surprised when it goes badly is every member of the Gargoyles clan going to get an episode where they think it's totally okay to trust humans, and then surprise humans Dick's. Except for lady detective. Dream Boat that is the exception that proves the rule in. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think Dimona actually says later on. Great minds in Dimona cut from the same cloth. Were those fiery redheads right? Shoe. I don't trust humans there. I do not. Anyway so the banker guys obviously like his super sweet motorcycle, that Lexington created righteous hog, and he thinks Bro me, and my buddies made it, and then he takes off his helmet like dumb, dumb, an monster, the giant beak type situation didn't key them in on something weird about this guy. Well, you know. They immediately try to kill Brooklyn I. Don't know. Literally guns. Going, in Hell, dog piled him and. That's proof of strength. He just like more, and they'll go flying and ripped his jacket. He has actually a lot of bad luck with clothing because he had his cool sunglasses, a couple of episodes ago, got destroyed and now his leather jacket. PORTLAND. So, he throws all these dudes off. He kicks all of their asses. The biker leader pulls out his own handgun and has jumped by a flying cat I. Don't know if you heard the hiss growl of flying cat go by biker leader. His shot goes wide hits Brooklyn's motorcycle and immediately explode like a fucking ball of flames disappears inflames. It's Gone Daniel. Would one bullet make a bike explode like that. Yeah, especially, if it's built from I, don't know trash. I just have to assume that that was just built out of just glued together. Trash Lexington doesn't know shit about building motorcycles. He's Gargoyles and it's been a week since he met with pack. Call it three weeks. See I saw a motorcycle. Yeah, the very first time. I roll times a million Lexington. You're not as smart as you think you are pal. Really like making things explode, do if Brooklyn wasn't mad before he's fucking pissed, they destroyed. Luckily the Flying Feline returns and they finished kicking all the assets together. They take out biker leader. He empties his revolver, but he misses. All of the shots taken the Gargoyles Flea. BIKER leader takes off. Everyone got into this big fight for no reason and we in this scene Yup, they fly off and they land on a rooftop as they do because that's where they always go, and we realized that this flying gargoyles person who helped me Al Qaeda, girl, meow, meow, kiddy girl, was actually Dimona glowing red eyes, and he's all gasp, but what are you doing here Dimona? And she goes on to try to apologize for. Trying to kill all of them recently. She's like hey, you know. I was I was going through some stuff. It was a bad break up with me and Goliath I. Thought the best way to handle. It was a rocket launcher. Dimona so that was I was crazy of rage and fear and also mentioned how she has been awake hundreds of years, but she doesn't go into any detail throughout this episode. Which is really frustrating? Right because? Negative information about her though I'm like Oh. Okay, this is maybe going to start putting this puzzle together. What the Hell Damone has been doing. Yeah, she starts to tell Brooklyn. She's got a story man. Let me tell you all about them. Audience. Can you go to castle wider and while explain this really awesome backstory of mine? Okay cool, and we don't get the fuck in here any of it. I wonder if she did tell him anything really because she's like. I mean it's a really long story. I just want to get into right now. Traffic me. Human should not be trusted. They're horrible because I have hundreds of years a proof. She's not wrong, but she's also. I don't know we'll. Whatever's going on castle wiper and so much more interesting because Goliath and Hudson are watching TV collide. That's actually sitting there. Reading books and he looks early. Hi, how are you reading? When other ships going on pretty good? Really? If Hudson was sitting next to me, watching TV and I was trying to read I guess I'll go into another room then Jesus. Christ I mean to be fair. You are in the TV room. That's okay. Fuck you Goliath is what you mean to say. Get Out, go to the library. I read at work all the time like on my lunch. Break and other people are doing things in the break room Merle it doesn't normally bother me. It's a TV show. Semi interested in than I will probably have issues. I'm pretty good at tuning. Things out. Remember when this. TV only played the pack. Yeah, when did that get fixed? You know fixed. It did Owen Sorry. We were fuck with the last week. For. He asked I'm guessing. Has Hunch. Men who take care of Shit like that. Maybe Lexington fixed it. He's very good with very handy. Guys I got this I don't WanNa Watch that show anymore near because they tried to kill me, so they hurt my feelings. I wonder if the shows even showing anymore if they're in prison. That's a fair point was I didn't even consider that anyway. Well. If the show's in syndication, they'll still get paid for reruns, you know. Care Anyway they're just sitting there. Enjoying themselves in the TV room, the other oils come in and guy like. Where's Brooklyn and they're like he? No, he's out joy joyriding. Joy. The way that Goliath does every time. A new phrase is onto him. Oh, he knows all about Chile writing. He just doesn't understand the motorcycle aspect of it. He's like wait. WHO's he fucking? And we get into this really interesting conversation. We're leaving again. We're done. We spent more time talking about the scene than the actually took. Yeah. I hate when shows do that. Let's leave this really interesting situation and go see some bullshit, and before you can even a chance of the bullshit. Let's go back. So D- Mona's full of righteous anger. Yes, I WANNA. Play you a little bit of her monologue here because she tries to convince Brooklyn to do some shit, he's going to regret later yet. Lesson those humans you just met. What did you do to provoke them? I did nothing the just attacked me exactly. That's what humans are like. But goliath says when they get used to it. They were used to us a thousand years ago, did that stop them from betraying destroying our mind? Again Liz, she is not wrong. Humans are all pieces shit except for lady dream. Boat just like all of us. Every single one of us. She wants to show Brooklyn. All the ways in which humanity is bad and I hate to break it to her. There's not enough time in the episode. Not Daniel do anything that would have been perfect opportunity for her to explain what the fuck! She's been doing for the last hundred, years yeah. It would be pretty great, but we don't have time because they have to go to a commercial break. Yeah, it's true, so they have a real Aladdin. I can show you the world moment where designing shimmering splitter. Jamin, yes, so she's like come on Brooklyn. Let me show you. The saddest story of New York City ever, but before we do that. How about we go to a quick commercial break? Because that's what they're doing to yeah, they have pretty good timing, so we're just following suit meet. Rome. Thanks for listening help others find our show by rating and reviewing on I tunes checkout calamity cast dot com for even more content, and follow us on Facebook, twitter and Instagram to get in touch and let us know how we're doing. If discord your things, join our server. If you like what you hear and you want to help, keep the lights on. Consider becoming a regular calamity casts contributor patriots, or if you'd like to make a one time donation, you can do so at pay. Pal, dot me forward, slash clarity cast. We appreciate your support and your donations truly make a difference. We are back, and so is gargoyles. Yes, so what happens now Dimona manages to find a random person just totally happens upon the situation. She's really good at good timing. Instead of helping this woman, they just watch her assault happen. Talk about Shitty People Gargoyles is apparently shitty. Able had that same thought, but then I was like okay well, they help her. Maybe get her purse back. And then she's just going to freak the fuck out and scream at a gargoyles. The way that we've seen that happen every time. Yeah, they at least got her purse back in like tossed it and been like. Kept going I mean you're making too much sense. I mean Dimona would never know Dimona wouldn't but it's weird the. Tribe isn't like no I I know what you're saying, but we could help this person right than Dimona takes Brooklyn to the window of home where two parents are fighting and breaking shit and their son runs off which again. How did she know that's really specific? Let's stop at this apartment. Where surely someone's going to be fighting inside? Yeah, I mean the personnel okay? Yes, all right that probably happened every twenty minutes in New York and Nineteen Ninety, four I'm speaking ill of past place whatever they deserve it yeah fuck. You New York nineteen ninety-four and finally a murder, yes. I will go back to it how she managing to find these seemingly random events. Maybe she committed the murder. There yeah all right throughout this. She's making some really convincing points about the need for Gargoyles to distance themselves from humans. Let's listen to her. Try to explain to Brooklyn that Goliath really needs to be made to see. The light humanity will never trust or accept us, but not all humans like that at least our friend. Perhaps the policewoman is the exception the poops of all. But can she keep you safe? From the rest of humanity? Only we can protect each other Brooklyn. We must be united and strong and willing to deal with the humans as they would deal with us so like you said she made some really good points, and I'd probably want to stay away from humans to if I had to deal with that, but can we hold on a second? How the fuck she know about the pack. That's a good question that you I am Brookland all ask yes, and she's like. Suspicion that stupid idiot. I don't WanNA speak ill of a bad ass, strong driven woman. She's a boss Bitch. She is a boss Bitch, which is great, except she typically has a man that she is kind of helping out or working for or semi, leading control her decisions. And, I don't know if it's. She's using a strong powerful person who can help her with what she's wanting to do. Regardless or if these people are Swain her, I would say that it's probably like she sees men and she's like Oh. Can you use them? Yeah, exactly. That's how I'm choosing to look at it because she knows how to get what she wants to get. Get and she knows how to manipulate people, and it just so happens that the most powerful people in the world especially in nineteen ninety four dudes. Yeah, because I mean she was working with El Capitan in Scotland to all right. There's always a man who's calling the shots, and I'm putting quotation marks over on that. You can't see me because this is audio scenario medium. Tell if she's being manipulated a little bit, or she's just really fucking brilliant. I think she's really fucking brilliant man, and that's what I WANNA. Know Her backstory. Episode nine in this episode, so here is where she reveals her master plan. She wants the the magic the magic. She wants the magic book the. Laker Norman I think is what she called it. To Make Goliath, see whatever that means and Brooklyn issues like cool. Good idea I'm very cool. GARGLE and I agree. That was excellent all right? Yeah, but it's like dude. Okay? Sure. She apologized and she's showing things and manipulating. You cool coca cool, but she also just tried to kill you. Two weeks ago man. Good. Castle. Let's go there. Guess Brooklyn makes his way back home. Just as dream boat stops by to again. Convince Goliath that the Gargoyles need to find a new home because there's only like one more month until David's back. Yeah, whole Jiman-. Not It's fine. I think he's thinking in terms of like nine hundred ad worth like I defeated the phone. This is mine now. David owns this well I mean. He bought the Gargoyles to write to. Gargoyles have rights man. I mean properly not in this day and age. What I don't understand. Why would goliath want to live there? Does he think that deluxe is going to not come back to the castle like I? Ask because they're gonNA. Be Roommates essentially you know? Why would he want to stay at the home of the dude that try to wipe out his species that sounds like the start of a really weird romance novel. His our home. Bullshit isn't much of an argument. No, it's not because you can make a home elsewhere like. Castle. You're attached to it. If deluxe wants them dead, all he has to do is wait till noon. And he knows that yeah and Goliath knows that because he's seen it happen before. Yeah, Goliath, rent an apartment man. Yes I'm curious because Dream Boat said like oh I have an option for you. And he immediately was like no, no, no! I need to know like what did she like? Yes, this would be great for my gargoyles. Friends yeah, what a bunch of good questions that this show is asking and answering. Okay so Brooklyn also isn't buying. Goliath is selling our read. This is our home and it's over man. We won everything's good, and has the rest of the fucking gargoyles. dufuses stand around, not chiming in on one side of the other think of anyone I have real strong opinions. Yeah, he can't be sold that he's like. Whatever I'm just here to watch TV and hang out. As all this is going on, the sun comes up and then shuts the conversation down. Yeah, it's a great way to end a fight. Net Stone now. So nighttime falls again and the. We got a montage of all them bursting out of stone because. It's sexy every time every time every time. Never GonNa get old, I mean all right just like the whole stretchy. They get to see his. We going to get to see some lady. GARGOYLES burst out stone. I want we haven't had any of that. Show isn't fair to white straight dude. Because you know when they're creating that. That's exactly what they're thinking. You know come on, guys think of the street WAGGA. Some fine all right, so it's daytime. It's nighttime. They're awake, Broadway and Lexington hungry or they're like. Hey, buddy, you wanNA come, eat breakfast to which is so funny to me. That I was like. Yes, I just woke up. It's time. Time for breakfast whatever. And Brooklyn because he has some shady shit he needs to deal is like Nah I'm good to go into the castle and steal a Gargantuan Aranjuez. Tannen as he do does real easily right? Okay, so first off. Did that book just come with the Castle? Yes, that's the book that deluxe had like episode two or three. He had found the book that the Magnum had created. Mega! Magnum Pi. The wizard in wine drunk tonight. The wizard man had made his own book I know, and you said that in a previous episode, but here it is well established that you were off, but this connect the book the. Book had blank pages in the back. He wrote a tale. Maybe he wrote. Some footnotes like t dubs accidentally turned my gargoyles pals into stone for a thousand years. oops can't find the counter spell. So what you need to do is i. put them in the clouds. Magic is weird hello. Brooklyn, he's steals the book he goes sneaking around, but again this is his home. You don't you don't have to sneak buddy I. Guess there's someone saw him with that luck. Doing Buddy. Back just what you guys. Boeing now wizard dragon man. Weird that he so secretive? Because there are only six people in this entire building and he broke into it bashing that case, so it's not like anyone else walks in there. Be Like! Oh, what's floors covered in glass? Probably big deal? Because they don't even know what the fuck glasses now, but he didn't break the glass. Key thing like I feel like that would just keep it always locked instead of just magically unlucky, and you don't know anything about technology. Though it's aching, it makes it work. Yeah, the time all the time. As as a show proves right so from there they go to the cloisters yeah. Brooklyn flies the book to Dimona. Who then tasks Brooklyn with getting Goliath back there? Yes. Familiar with video game fetch quests, but this is exactly what it reminded me of all right? Thank you for delivering the thing now. I need you to get the thing like Oh for fucks, sick and Brooklyn does it. Yeah, we go to. The closer is just like we quickly cut to the TV room earlier. We're just happen really fast. Going back. We go back to castle. And he's like Hey goliath buddy. I found this cool spot. It reminds me of Scotland at home. I think you'd really like it. You should come in college. He was sitting. He wasn't doing anything he was just. Kneeling is closed just sitting there. I just perch. Goliath was doing the equivalent of staring off into space. He was protecting the castle. He was napping. Look I'm old. Nap and board have read all the fucking. Vanquished my phone. There's nothing to do. Don't trustee anymore. Let's go back to the cloisters, Liz? What is the cloisters looks like a weird. British, like if you're until like Downton Abbey, or something like that like a not a castle, but like. A state home or whatever but. New York City. It's like what what is this? It looks like there may have been a church later on. We see what I thought was funny. Is that Brooklyn's like `have is place. It looks just like where we came from, but they are living in where they living in where they came from Liz and I, guess the place kind of looks like their house. House maybe menges Scotland in general, aren't they? In Central Park Outside, Jessica Gould cloister Oh. You didn't do that beforehand. You're going to do it on Mike Yes god, you're embarrassing a covered walk in convent. Monastery College or Cathedral typically with a wall on one side in a colonnade, open to a quadruple on the other. Okay, so it's definitely a church there in later. Assumes. Covered walkway that opens up to greenspace the picture Liz. Showing me pretty much looks like what we saw New York has churches I guess I can buy that. Asked and answered, so then Dimona comes out. Of course she's got the Iraqi war spectacular. She's going to do some fucking magic with a K.. So like anyone, just do magic. Okay if you read the book like the Magus just had a book. He wasn't a magic guy. He was a dude with long hair. Is Good enough for me to just get stuck in my throat like you're gonNA. You're gonNA live with that for too long. Yeah. Anybody can fuck it magic. Dimona does magic. She's got the book and then we cut to break. Yeah, should we? Also? It's GonNa Happen. We're GONNA do it. This is a good transition by. Long. Hello this is Mike and I'm here to tell you about my podcasts comparing apples to oranges each month. One of my Brillian Co hosts an I consume two pieces of media that are new to US usually move album. We start each episode with a little background or history, and we create a set of criteria to figure out which one is better. Make things a little different. Different we only compared to things in the same category that don't belong in Saint John for example. Some past episodes had migraine cocoas, comparing to Roy trick movies to albums by the kids, a famous artist in two movies that scored zero percent on rotten tomatoes. CHECK US out each month wherever you download the podcast or head over to the Cato podcast. Step log spot dot top. Thanks bye. Hello, wow, we our. Listeners full disclosure, this episode has had some technical difficulties, and we're doing our best to row with anyway. Oh, great so! Goliath all surprised to see Dimona even though like she literally had no idea where she had been. Yeah, but when asked do you think she survived? Yeah, probably because he he knows his lady lady at Watch yourself. She's a scrappy kind of Gal. She survives. She's a flying Feline Gargoyles. He's like Oh hey. You'd be back. There aren't enough villains in this show throwing away so soon right by. He does seem surprised that she has the magic book. Yeah, so before our break Dimona sent Brooklyn to gather goliath right because she had to practice the spell. She's like it takes a lot I gotta get it right. You get Goliath I'm going to rehearse. There seems like there was no time in between. Let's take a listen to this spell because it sounds tough, yes. Do in stunt tart. With as it turns out, it was three words, and then you can shoot lasers from a book like a green smoggy thing that just takes over someone, and now he has glowing green is the spell works immediately. Who Did she practice on? How did she know she was to? I don't know. Yet and immediately Brooklyn regretful his decisions. He's like Oh, God. God I wanted him to see the truth not for you to be able to inflate his mind like this because she's able to now control him. God dummy, listen to Dimona. What did you fucking was going to happen? He's shocked. The he was tricked his baffled so Dimona. Obviously I. Can I mean come on dude? You wanted him to know that humans are bad, right? This is how we're GONNA do it. He's just going to be my little slave man until I can accomplish all the things I needed accomplish because those. oops Brooklyn. You're done. goofed up all right. I'm not even get into how Brooklyn could be so dumb. He goes for the book. He wants to reverse the spell. Yes, but he sucks. So Dimona six glass on him and she's like. Oh, no, I don't have to fight you I've got an attack dog now. Yes, and then Brooklyn attempts to flee. He breaks down the door of the old church. which I mean, those are some big doors. I, don't even know why I was questioning. I Ju- I. Just want didn't WanNA. Make assumptions. Cloisters, church got it all right so the rest of the scene plays out exactly as you'd expect. She doesn't want to hurt Brooklyn now, but she gonNA. For the greater good yeah, it's like an abusive spouse. You know like you made me do this. Yes, she tries to use the spell on Brooklyn. They tussle book gets knocked from her hands. It's very dynamic this whole situation. There's more hustling. There's more wrassling and she's like know what fine whatever Goliath kill this dude, I? Don't need him. Yeah, Liz glass doesn't client doesn't because you have to be holding on to the book and she's like, but I got the book, but Brooklyn Sneaky Little Devil and he is, he tore out the spout or spell. He had the power socket Dimona, southgate. Southgate so now instead of Brooklyn being like Hey Goliath. Let's all figure this out man. He's like glide killed him. Oh, no, like fucking again. There's like seven of you on the planet. Chill out you intense. Yeah, it's overkill, left and right. He's playing for keeps now. I guess he's had enough of her shit. Which I think he feels feels betrayed for sure right. I'm just another one of her little minions like he hurt. He thought they were team. Yeah, I have to assume. She's his mother. Because we haven't talked about that recently, it's been a while. Still only one lady gargoyles that we've ever met with a bunch of dudes three of them young. I really want to know their ages and like at what point do they stop acting like these like kind of Dufy? Teens become more like Goliath. These particular dufy teens. I'm GonNa say never always genes, these are the dudes that are are like you know what I'm. GonNa work, part time and seven eleven, and I'm GonNa live with my parents. Like these are those Bros. listen I dropped out of college after one semester because that shit is tough. These, dudes! Dimona! She's going to flee the scene. She jumps like fifteen feet in the air to great jumper physics. In this episode. They're playing fast and loose. Yes, you know I was just editing and older episode and we were talking about wing, flapping and flying versus gliding, and this is another one of those physics things where like apparently Dimona can jump twenty feet in the air. She's got a sick vert. She's running. She's jumping. It's bad ass. Goliath goes. What does he, does he? Does. He jumped to cut so. He just suddenly up there. Yeah, we don't know what he did. When he is under this spell, he kind of has his like lumbering kind of Phoenix to him. He's very not exactly Zombie like put. Zombie Ish, he's Frankenstein Monster, and he is the arms out the kind of stumbling forward and he he goes to grab. Dimona and they crash through this big stained glass window, and it's really cool and instead of crashing to the ground like you'd think again. They manage to recover in mid air like cats and flyway, so gargoyles are winged cap. They are winged. Cats want one no. That actually it would be really troublesome. Than Brooklyn follows literally flapping his wings gaining altitude. Yes, I saw that because gargoyles only can't fly when it's convenient to the plot exactly otherwise they can was specimen off I. Know! I made the same note I mean he goes up. He's flying. He's literally flying fuck glide. So goliath catches up with Dimona there in a park area. All Been in central park. It's all been very park very green outside, and that park is so goddamn big. Does it have like the cloisters I don't know. Next week I'm talk. Alliance is able to grab onto Dimona and takes her fucking down. She's ripping pages out of the book. which originally I was like. What is she doing? I'm pretty sure she was ripping out the like as it turns ashes ripping out the counter spell, because as we've discussed, you never keep the counter spell on the same page. Why would you do that? Dammit? The magic man was dumb and he wrote those book eight. Or. Did he just find this book? Because we've discovered, anyone can do magic if you have A. Book, He didn't Know Shit Yeah Idiot, so she is able to find the exact page while flying. He takes her down and it's brutal. Brutal. Twist them so he's the one who smashes into the ground far, but they fucking take down a tree. They destroy that trae dude. How much do gargoyles. Fuck ton and turns out. It was an adult tree. Yeah, it was like a fucking oak yeah! Dimona just decides to fuck off escape. Yes, because even though he's a mindless Ambi-. Goliath is still a force to be reckoned well of course, and then she gives a great villain line. Can I just plain this real fast? This time I'll get you next time, and then she flies off. Well, she doesn't fly off because she throws the gigantic normal snack him into a river. Is there a river that goes through the? Town bluff into a mill. What version of New, York, city they're living in yeah. I know there's rivers in New York obviously. The, Hudson, it's not the East River. It looks like just a river through the park, and there's a fucking bluff makes sense he's, doesn't she? Pulls some really goofy villain shit. It's funny. She does officiating into the air. I'll get you next time. Fox Off, it's great. You should be the the wicked witch. I'm good at being a wicked witches. Yes, you are anyway. Brooklyn was like none of the no in dives down in manages to save the book defying physics again six inches away from the water. Swoops backup. We've discussed this exact scenario before where. Terminal Velocity you can only fall so fast and if he's not slapping, he's not propelling himself faster than the book. That fucking book should be in water, whatever it's a cartoon, I get it cartoons in the nineties. They didn't respect reality as much. As things like adventure time. CARTOONS TODAY So we find out that it was actually the counter spells that she was ripping out as we talked about already. This is what happens when you keep that counter. Spell on a different page, yeah! It's such poor book construction. How do you put books together? I don't know I'm not an author, so Brooklyn is like come on, buddy. Let's go home and get some home and they're trying to figure out how to fix it. You can't Goliath Thas Adum Zombie forever. That's how he is for the rest of the series. Extend into the comics H- Dream Boat shown up dream boat shows up, and and she's like wait so like I have to hold these pages right. Just have to hold these pages and he'll do whatever I want. Schick it's wild, right? Allie Jean like yes, I finally get didn't do that thing I. Want Him to deal with the thing. Smile is on the fly. What's what's the bank? She doesn't want to say she doesn't want to reveal too much about herself right now. She's like the only thing I got is in my brain and. y'All. Don't need to know that thing. WAS A mad hot gargoyles sakes it's fine. Episode by. Out No clever thing. Yeah, let's hear it. Okay Big Guy. I'm holding the spell, and that means you have to do what I say. Goliath I order you to act for the rest of your life exactly as you would. If you were not under a spell, she's too smart for fucking book. She's like I, know books. Ain't got shit on detectives. Magic is no fucking match for Twentieth Century High waisted Dkny. Genes so, do you think that would actually work? Obviously, it worked in this, but like I. I won't eat to act like you would act. How'd you never been put under this over? That's the thing he would still be under the spell right like she could holding those pages, she could reverse that at any time. And you know what I bet. She fucking does I. Bet you pockets that spell and she's like. Oh, no, I know what I did. I know bye-bye. But his eyes are no longer glowing green. He's back to normal and Brooklyn so apologetic. He's like I. Heard You the first time here you get here. He just couldn't I couldn't react. Is Very quick to forgive this very small, very specific group of people. If you're Dimona if you're deluxe, fuck you forever. I'm never forgiving you basically, if you've tried to kill Goliath twice I, don't forgive subtle little brogue oils. He loves his little rascals. Little little guys. Can know any better. He didn't know any better than to trust demo-. Come onto. Yeah, he trusted Dimona I mean Yeah forgiveness. It's fine, but don't let Brooklyn forget that thing forgive. Don't let them forget the time that he fucked up. Early what do they do with the book? Do they just put it back in the glass case? Do, they set it on fire for Fuck Sake, knowing them. They're like Oh. This is our history will put back really they should handed off to dream boat and it'd be like. Can you bury this or something? Yeah, put it in safety deposit box I don't know what that is. I mean they know motorcycles. Motorcycle savings deposit back same thing motorcycles I the banking system second neuron. This episode ends with all the Dudes Tuck in for a long day's rest when Lexington asks, what happened at the motorcycle oh? Yeah, it exploded whoops. Over. And then you just see poor lacks. This surprise. Do feel cool face. Stuck like that until nighttime, and that's the end of the episode we're. GonNa. Take One more break. We're GONNA come. Back Along. Diane. Remind me to get Cherry Pie filling. Do Water. Oh come on, man I told you I don't even like David Lynch. Yeah, but you've never seen twin peaks. You might really like it. You never know there is absolutely no way I'll get into that show and prove it okay I'm intrigued how I'm going to watch every single episode and Co host the podcast where we discussed all the ways in which I can't stay in the show. Yeah, that seems counterintuitive. I hope it's funny. At least you bet your Cherry Pie will be. Funnier than that I hope shut up, subscribe to the Black Lodge. Complaint Department on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast and check US OUT AT CALAMITY GAS DOT com. Well folks we are back. We've finished episodes seven T. A, Tom Waits Song new all everyone is familiar. I. I'll play for you later Liz. Was What did you think of this episode I liked it a lot more than last episode, okay? Wasn't speaking to be honest. Last episode wasn't great. This'll better. But it left me angry with so many questions so many questions that they could've taken the opportunity to answer. And the teased us what those things and that pissed me off. I agree I'm with you. One hundred percent I'm assuming we'll get more Dimona information later on, but like on would have been the perfect time to explain to us. WHAT THE FUCK! She's been doing for hundreds of years. I know. It's a children's program, but what makes for a good feeling is the idea of being able to sympathize with them to a certain degree. Why is Dimona acting this way? If you gave us that? Yeah, we could be more on her side for various reasons. Obviously I've made my opinions very clear. Not a fan of other people yeah so I. Get it from that standpoint, but what happened a hundred years ago or hurt you Dimona or you yeah I mean i. we think that she has been frozen for a thousand years just like the other gargoyles. then. We learned that. Maybe she's been away a few hundred years, but bad should happen like let us. Yeah I want to know and if it weren't David, who unmarked throws her? How did she get above the clouds right? Did Someone Hump that statue? Eighteen hundred someone humping that statue Glenn she is hot. But if it workday, but like David was the one that on stone her. Stone like. Then like why how did she find him? And why did she decide to work? These are all really good question. I assumed the reason why she's like Oh. Yeah you I, agree with your plans. And what you're doing is because he's the one that broke the spell for her. He doesn't even have any plans. He is into I. Guess Corporate Espionage, and also gargoyles murder I. I can't wait for him to get back in this show and give some real motivation. Because as we saw in the last episode, he just wanted to kill the Gargoyles, but he woke the gargoyles. He didn't have to do that. He just wanted to see what it it got to assume. We're only seven episodes in that. There is a big master plan or I hope anyway. Because if you look at what were given, it's all stupid. I bought a castle to wake up Gargoyles, which apparently I already knew is real, so I didn't have to do that then I wanNA. Kill him right? There's gotta be more. Yeah. I can't wait to find out. The LEX Luther of this universe. Hope, so 'cause lex Luther is fucking dastardly. Yeah, some interesting pesos yeah was as a as a human. Do think that would be accepted by Dimona if I helped her destroy. All humans aren't. Very. Lee should be like. Oh, here's stupid man that I can use. That's fair I am a stupid. Fully admit. Dumb guys. She'd be like yes. Yes, please let me use you all right. I two week it to destroy all humans, because I'm into it. Now that means me two bomber. It was. Liz who is next in the game of trust humans until they obviously turn on you Broadway for shower. All you do dangle some delicious food I was going to say is his episode against a hot dog vendor. I, don't trust you. I doubt vendor. He was son of a this is me. Yeah No, it's definitely gonNA be Broadway and. Food related I mean I think I just played it out I think. We, did it those are all my questions this week? Did you like this up? You know I didn't when I watched it, but discussing the ridiculousness of it made me like a little little more. Yes, but I have basically all this in questions you did. I have all the same concerns you did and I'm hoping it's just leading to more I feel like it is i. feel like. Like for what little I remember of the overall are of Gargoyles. Is that everything connected pretty well? Right? So this is just a taste of what's to come because I remember Dimona, and again I was a child, but I remember Dimona being a really good villain. Yeah, I, don't remember. Why Deluxe is game now? I don't remember that at all, and as an adult I remember ponytail. Are they just shitty. Roommate's like what is going to happen. You know. Yeah, but I'm intrigued for episode. I WANNA see more can't wait I know that eventually deluxe gets a gargoyles robots sue. I. Excited for that, and if its disappointing I'll flip a goddamn table, and like I mean they said in this episode of their a month away from deluxe, getting out of prison I. Don't know what will time line is so my guess is in the next few episode till we back in the picture looking forward to it, but for now we have to leave. Hey Pal oils, dear, dear Powell, thanks for joining us on another stellar episode of defenders of the Night I. Say Stellar because I wrote this before the computer crashed. We made it work. We've made it work. We as always would like to shout out Ian McGowan creating the interstitial music. You've enjoyed today. Check him out on Instagram and twitter at I'm not spelling it out. It's been seven episodes. You guys figured it out. It's easy. Underscore Breezy, underscored Mac and check out his band. Good deeds at good deeds, Music Band Camp Dot Com, if you want to talk gargoyles or your favorite motorcycle. Sake. 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Episode 202: Shut Up and Keep Working

Defenders Of The Night

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Episode 202: Shut Up and Keep Working

"We are defenders of the night. The most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everybody's favorite mid-nineties animated program. Go. I am your host Eliza I am your host, Daniel Williams, Daniel, tell me about this episode. Liz, let's just skip it all. I'm GonNa tell you right now. I didn't like it. We're not talking about this episode. Let's talk about something. Awesome. Instead like why I didn't plan that far ahead. Liz. We're talking gargoyles season two episode to metamorphoses. I believe is how you say that word. This episode aired September fifth. Nineteen ninety-five now were call season, two opener aired September fourth. Five, we're back on a daily episode schedule and I don't know for how long because I don't like to spoil myself. Right? Exactly. We'll have to keep an eye on that. Yeah. Like I guess maybe they could do like a thing they did before, but it made sense when they did it before because they were connected, these are not connected episodes even a little bit. It's almost like this is a different show there. So not connected. Yeah. We'll get into that. It was directed by last week's director Frank Par, and it was written by Brin Chandler reaves she's back for I think this is her third episode typically, we like her typically, we like her I'm blaming the newcomer she brought along with her Lydia Marano two women, writers I. Think That's the problem you can't have two women work together I'm always saying that you're always hearing me say because I believe it's very true. It's a thing that I believe I Have to leave now. Wow. Chick some alright, well. Can I tell you a couple of Lydia's credits. She's worked on some stuff that I forgot that I knew about. Did you watch Phantom Twenty forty, an animated program based on the character? The Phantom. Did you see the Billy Zane movie? Oh, Jesus I mean it came out in ninety five. So. I don't think my parents were taking me too many movies. Yeah. She is a writer on many episodes of Gargoyles. On she wrote one single episode of Spider Man, the animated series. Okay. Yeah. And they're like we don't like you could buy. I don't overturf all. You don't live those episodes I need to stop. True. She doesn't have any writing credits were credits after two thousand. All Weird. Anyway listeners. We're going to jump into season two episode to of Gargoyles, but I've just been informed that Liz agreed to wing walk on an old timey prop plane. If we can five new subscribers by next week Liz, that is amazing. That is dangerous. But I applaud you listeners tell your animation loving friends, and let's get Liz up in the sky. If you can find me on playing, let's do it. Let's do it. It only takes five. And a plane, she's a cheap date apparently. All. Right on that. Let's go to the mean streets of New York City where the back like the alleys behind the mean streets really. Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely the sketchy alleys. We. See some. People gathering around a barrel fire. Classic Portrayal of the homeless is that real? I've never seen it in real life I. I've also never been without a home. So we come to a classic sinister guy with a cane hiding in the shadows, the attempts to coerce a young woman into coming with him. That never ever turns out well, now I've really doesn't. Want to large air quotes hire her as an assistant. Well. That's all we get from that scene. So we've already talked about it longer than that seen actually went on. Yes. I'm going to say and I know our listeners know how I feel about this, but that makes me so upset when the show in any show does that we're GonNa hit this scene for fifteen seconds the next one like the same thing I go on where we're going Creepy guys talking to ends up being important, and all we know her is she hasn't been in New York, city very long, and she's homeless and things weren't going the way she expected, and that's it. By slow from there we go to. It appears to be an airfield or plane bunker or some sort of airstrip. Yeah. It's small with very small was weird that also has a hot dog vendor. Okay Okay, I shop where with Dream, boat and she tells a joke and I don't get it. Let's listen to it. Okay. One master said to the hot dog vendor. Make me one with everything. I haven't heard that one before I'm glad you don't get it either because I watched it twice and it was like what the fuck is. That's supposed to me also, did you see how she fucking eight that hot dog? She got messy within that? She like eight it from the bottom she? Like if you're holding a hotdog, normally a perpendicular from you. She then went towards its by bio. Did she? took him. Backs. So she like turned her hand instead of eating the part of the hug that was closer to her face. She thinks she like not even that. I usually just go straight down right in the middle. Market, the sandwich that's on Jerry happened, is it down next to me? He's like excuse me what the fuck. that. Hot. Well, the thing about New Yorkers and hot dogs, they don't have them there. So this is probably her first experience with a hot dog vendor. They're only at tiny strips. Would appear to be the middle of nowhere in the mid West like that's how small displacement it was very strange because she is a New York, city, police officer De, where was this airstream? Santa's a private, this xanadu adjacent. Oh. So the reason she's out at this podunk airstrip is because she's meeting her brother who is up in the sky piloting some kind of glider plane thing and he lands and gets out, and they immediately started drake straight off the bat were intended each other. Years haven't seen each other because she's all you learn a family dinner and Sunday, he's a get off my back. You're still working for deluxe shoot up sister. I know. Selene. Fights. Lurk. That's how I remember it happening. I, kind of forgot that Derek worked for deluxe because because they haven't mentioned it. Yeah. We haven't seen him since he got hired. Yeah. It was episode eleven of Season One, and then he just disappeared I. Thought that he was supposed to be deluxe his bodyguard, which kind of means he should be on the Lexus, ass all the time. Yeah. So okay. Guard slash pilot slash I. Don't know what else. But apparently nothing I think slash boyfriend. Yeah. Maybe that's the problem owns getting jealous and so on is making Jericho on all these weird tasks Mr. deluxe that's what Owen calls to Mr Deluxe wants Putin from the source fuck I want to put. The Putin Springs of Southern, Canada. Okay. Then the scenes over right. We don't even discover why the fuck she went out there. I think this literally chew his ask about not being family dinner a phone call, right? But then an important thing to note here is they do they call them down and they do their stupid little sibling cross my heart thing. The first time we've seen it apparently, this is the thing that they right? Even though we've seen them have many interactions. Yes. Okay. dammit. Got To the clock tower, your favorite scene, my least favorite part of any episode. Well, no, I actually had issues with this one. Right. Hit Me. Did you notice when they woke up stone fucking fell from the clock tower in Hidden Dude I actually liked that but I was like first off i. he acted like a raindrop hit him. He was just When like fucking rock band him? That's true. Like not even from a short distance, that's a little. It's not tall as xanthos castle. But like it was still a distance has been happening the whole fucking time and we've never seen this. What did you want to happen? Liz Did you want him to die? Navy. Why didn't he start bleeding from the skull? Why sure that like why? Again, let's going to be a thing that like is a problem moving forward. It draws attention to them or something like. What was the point of that? So my thought is this is saying like or acknowledging the Gargoyles have an effect on the world, even down to the small things like throwing huge chunks of rock. Causing presumably the death of at least one person per night in the same spot. The excuse me police, why does your building throwing rocks at us? Yeah. You gotta figure that eventually someone's gotTa. Just say, Hey, we keep getting complaints. Someone go up there and see what's up. Well, that's just GonNa be like, oh And also it has to be during the daytime. What. It is, the gargoyles there. They seem to be in perfect shape. No broken up pieces. While we talked about this scene a lot. It's we watch them wakeup. Yes. Did you notice that in the wake of seeing Hudson Sword? Wasn't stone? No. I missed that I think I have noticed that before though because you and I had a discussion about things turning to stone. Yeah. If they have if it's in their hands because in a previous episode in long wait till morning. Dimona, laser blaster turns to stone when she turns to stone Yeah. Inconsistency I think it might have something to do with the animation in the season I've noticed in this episode. Especially, the animation seems really different and I'm gonNA. Say Not as good. Do you have? Have like of how it was different. Yeah. Facial expressions and facial drawings in general seem kind of Wonky or stretched. Weird. Our movement didn't seem as smooth and stuff like that like they were cutting too many frames. Okay. It's hard to talk about this episode fluidly because there is no fluidity in IT K-. Yeah. We do get a new location. Here. We go to junior tech labs where a man is attacked, some food is spilled. There's an alarm and a spooky winged cat flees the building. This is the spooky Cain man's lab. Yes. He is. As it turns out hour episodes, Dr. Moreau, did you ever see the island of Dr Moreau now? Kids these days. AM I. Right Listeners. For Youth. Yeah. They do show the cane and like okay. Well, obviously, that's the homeless lady that we saw at the beginning of the scene I mean as an adult obviously Do you feel like a kid would and those things together I did? Check out brains on. Let's go back to the clock tower briefly Jeez. Okay. We're actually just see Broadway in Brooklyn fly away. So these two scenes are kind of connected. The best connection we've seen so far because we see Broadway in Brooklyn fly away, they're doing their city patrol Batman style. And as they're on a lookout for bad guys to punch they spot the ultimate Bagai Dimona. Benadryl. You know it turns Brooklyn's Jomo. And had to soup down in to thing because it's a real Lexington. Yeah. Exactly. So it's not Dimona. They float down to the alley and they see bad cat. Virginia. Tech. She is terrified. I would be tailed because man bats just flew. Also, I'm only a cat bat and I don't know what the folks happening. Yeah. The gentle and they wanNA talk to her because I'm sure from their point of view. They have never seen anyone that looks like this, but also people that they don't know look even a little bit like them. Yeah. It. Just really intensive like I will help her. Let me help you. I'm your friend. She's like getting the. Terrifying, yeah, and I mean, he's a big dude. I mean both of them are big dude it's not like. It's Lexington whose tiny and cute and be like hey, buddy. It's okay because she small small. So they try to be gentle as they can, but she's scared rightfully. So yes, and none of this matters because the cops arrive Liz who called the police in New York City except it's not the cops. GENENTECH has their own goon squad. Yeah. Liz can anyone have lights and sirens on their vehicles I. Mean, I guess if you have enough money, you can was I google. The sentence can anyone have lights and sirens on their vehicles and the answer is no. You need to be like specially authorized by the state I do not believe that genentech would have that authorization. They seem sketchy as fuck. He had agree with that. They might have a big sign on their building, but it also seems like a creep in his basement. Totally hard creep in the basement vibes. Anyway, the goons are trying to capture that cat, but they're also intrigued by these other gargoyles. Creatures are not the ones that they created. They don't even know these goons in high up in the company now. Now every science based company in. New. York. Have Goons I. Guess if you're dealing with a semi illegal tech Shit, you need your own goon, you need a squad of goons goon squad if you will. Yes. So a fight occurs because the goons are firing off shrinks like I don't even know they were electrified though I? Mean obviously, they were tranquilizer darts because they do hit back cat, but they were also when they were hitting dumpsters and whatnot, they're like Zapping Zidane. There's Zappin also rapid-fire. Yeah. That exists. Okay. We're obviously the most well-versed gun people know all about zips the subs in the zaps. Brooklyn Handy. And that's not great. No, he's really handy. That's whole episode. I. Feel like he doesn't understand social cues or body language or when no means. No awesome consent. Exactly. Like he's definitely very handed. That's having major issues with Brooklyn. I don't normally love. By Raphael? Group that cat girl feels like helped me and he tries to help her and she's like, no, you don't help me I. Don't know who I want to help me, but it's none of anyone involved right now. I feel like maybe Broadway would have been acceptable because he was coming up on a much different way by doesn't give a fuck about what is happening, which really fucked with me. Just get the fuck out like he he was having none of it. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So Broadway was on one spectrum and Brooklyn was on the far other one. One which I think almost made Brooklyn Croupier 'cause. Broadway. Gave No. Fox broadly should have given some fucks though that is right now, exactly. The Goon squad nab is back cat thrown in the back of their van and they go after the Bros. and Brooklyn is like we got saver. We gotta help her and this is the first time. Broadway's like that. I. Mean if you say so buddy, I. Don't really care about this lady or her kidnapping situation. Are you know that she's the first winged creature that we've met before that? We didn't know a thousand years ago. Really, not my bag was sandwich. I think part of him is he sees how much she's resisting wanting to talk to them, and I feel like he's just like I mean we can't force her, but she's been like she's being right once she's been kidnapped then I. think that's when you need to step in. But like before that like you don't need to force your friendship on this woman. Yes, absolutely. Well, they do not rescue back cat now she gets taken away and Brooklyn gets tranquilized in the process. Yeah. So then Broadway focus on saving him because otherwise he'll be captured I guess it's a good thing he was in like. You can have them. He got drank too. So I'm, GonNa. Go. He wouldn't do that to his own brother. Get some weird vise off Broadway is what I'm saying. After this horrific scene, we go to castle wide vern, ignoring all of the stuff we've seen to this point because we have to go meet up with deluxe finally, and we get to see Derek again, they just came back from a date presumably. Yeah. That's what you do in a helicopter I mean when you're a billionaire you and your boyfriend go out in a fucking helicopter can fly one. So Owens waiting for them and I wasn't really paying. Paying. Attention to the spark zero notes from the scenes. Apparently, it did nothing for me something about an expense report from Genetech oh. Yeah. There is they're saying that was like a weird mercenary group that like they'd spent money on or something and I think that's probably his weird goon squad. Derek. Ears perk up when he hears armed mercenaries. That's when I tuned back into because that was the next word I heard like Oh what TPS REPORTS I don't care mercenary. Yes. So Derek like you're gonNA, go check it out I should go with you and I, my wife. Into looks that actually wouldn't surprise me. Deluxe is like now Derek Usta here, Sweetie. And and. In the bedroom and big, Daddy? Hired me shouldn't you get your money's worth? Wink, wink. Looks like, yeah. You're right. You can come to. All right. Come on. Who can say no to those is right. So he goes with them and is weird that he doesn't want him to go again, it has bodyguard. You'd think you'd want this, but I guess he knows he's doing some top secret research there, and so he's like a Derek Worthy of knowing this shit yet. So I, don't WanNa, get into details about the yet, but is the ending deluxe actual plan from episode eleven when he hires Derek or ten or whenever it was I mean he is a pilot. He's good. Good with flying. Remember dogs always like ten steps ahead of everyone else which I think he just falls into things and he's like that was the yeah. He doesn't actually work that way. It's just the writers made like he is, but we never see deluxe be the smart guy that is planning and plotting. We only see parts two and three where he's got the plan that we don't know as deluxe and then revealed that it was deluxe along the curtain pulls back and its deluxe pulling the strings. But like. It. Was Him. How don't ask that part don't ask citizen. But he is, but should he be? Oh. Yes All right. So I guess they're gonNa go to Genetech as a team. Yeah. As a couple, and then we jump back to the clock tower. Yeah. We briefly stopped by the clock tower. So Broadway in Brooklyn can relay what happened to the rest of the group and Broadway Leans into this whole. You wanted to rescue your girlfriend kind of. vibe. I, guess, that wasn't that weird to me because of how insistent Brooklyn was being like. Oh I'm gargoyles and it's my job to help people. But like I don't know I was getting the vibes of him like feeling this girl I mean why? Other than the show as it turns out, wanted you to feel that way to me at this point. It seemed like now, he was a little insisted in the alley, but he saw person that desperately needed help was trying to help them, and then we broadway not give a fuck. Fuck? Yeah. Like she wasn't being shot at, I, mean, this dude has a huge problem with guns did not care that a an innocent bystander victim was being shot at repeatedly. She wasn't shouting for help. I don't know man. Yeah. At this point, I didn't see the Brooklyn stuff until we got to the end where he's like, why won't you love me? I was like, what? Where did like to me? It just came out of nowhere. Yeah I. Guess They could have made it clearer. But because why would he be like? Why don't you love me in the first time? He meets her I. Get that. That's a stupid fiction trope, but it's a stupid trump. Yeah. because. He I guess like love at first sight are like, oh, she's so pretty or whatever. But like he didn't really ever say, yeah, he just gets kind of obsessive. It gets weird again at this point. Yeah. I guess the fact that Broadway's referring to cat bat has a girlfriend I, mean, I guess she was kidnapped. Boyer. My Ass. Weird. I. Like Brooklyn's episode like Broadway episode. Yeah. Even though we don't see much of him, I didn't like Lexington and this episode either. I don't even remember what looks dozens. He's a Dick. Anyway, so they had found a pray slit that back cat had been wearing and they pass it on to dream. Boat. And she recognizes it as a tracking device because she knows that. Well, yeah, I think they have a conversation. How like the symbol that was on the bracelet is the same symbol that was on the vans yet captured her. So they figure out genuine tech is where they need to go she new tech, and then we go there to catch up with deluxe and Derek and finally get to learn creepy cain man's name Sa- various. Probably, his last name. His name is Dr Severity. Various, that is accurate. The snake. He's probably long in the line of snakes. There's Severson Sa-, various and Stevens Nape. Goodell Stevens Stevens name. He was not the evil mastermind that some of his relatives aren't. But no, he's actually a sweet boy Stevens Naptha is a botanist. Yeah. Okay. Slave works deluxe. Yes, and so deluxe is demanding a progress report on whatever's been going on here. So snake shows us all a film reel. Would you like to watch some of this film real with me? Yeah okay, you asked me to genetically design a living creature based on Gago I considered cloning living specimen, but none was available or has that changed? No, it has not. So I turned to gene splicing to breathe for desired traits. The competent general types would give creations, strength speed, and agility of a jungle cat plus abets ability to fly and human intelligence. Yes. Of course Liz, we hear Dr Snap Spins. Did you recognize this man's voice? Yes. Did you before you read my? No. It's pennywise the clown everyone and you know so many other roles, etc. You know Tim Curry was the original Voice of the joker and Batman, the animated series. He voiced the pilot and he got replaced interest down. Do I if it costs too much. But can you imagine a world where Tim Curry is still voicing the joker today because he no mark. Hamill. Still voices the joker. A lot of stuff I. Love Mark, Hamill, I love him markle whatever those dumb Jo-. We don't need to go over Tim Curry's credentials, bt Depths, I feel like you don't know who the fuck? Tim Curry is get out. Do the time warp again. So in this film clip, I'm sure you heard that snap wanted to clone alive gargoyles. Yes. But they didn't have any to sample from. So that's really why deluxe buddy buddy with Dimona, I don't know. But does this mean that deluxe and Dimona aren't working together anymore? I don't know because. Can you imagine Dimona with an Army of new damone? Damone is that she could control and she could lead seems like something should be. It does seem like something she'd be into I. Guess I was a little confused. What like would Dimona still be alive? Like would they be able to do this? Not hurt her I mean I think it's just a series of tissue and blood samples. Yeah I am a geneticist amateur geneticists. have taken a blood tune. Might I've not that's discussed. But I can't imagine that it would kill her interest in. So they continue looking at the film real and everything was just weird. Yeah. So the previous test subjects can't fly because they don't have the muscle strength. So something something yields, they were saying that the ability to give them the proper strength, they'd had to eat at least quivalent of three cows a day. I can't imagine. So he was utilizing the electric power of ills to power them the strongest sea. Creature. What other ones have electric shock abilities. It's very silly. So he uses the Batson, the cats because he uses like jungle cats and bat for the wing ability, and the will for the power. They eat the eels unclear because he just has like a VAT of electric eels swimming around I. Don't know if they're being connected to them or they have that DNA in them or I didn't like about this as delicious I thought was confusing was that he's referring to. To. His previous test subjects and then we look over at the three that are in the cage. It's Cat Bat Tiger Bat and some kind of Panther Bat I assumed those are to whom he was referring, right. But later on at the end of the episode, we see them free and flying around. So they do have ill powered batteries, but they didn't. I, don't know I liked the deluxe doesn't know what's happening here. Those it turns out again by the end spoilers he. Is the mastermind. But. I actually did like that in I. Liked what we were initially told, yes, I felt like a gave a different dimension deluxe and it really subverts expectations because he asked we expect deluxe to know everything all the time and he's the only bad person in New York doing bad things and this would have been nice to see like even he can be. Be tricked right like him being shocked that several was doing questionable, Shit. Yeah. Surprised me a good thing, but it didn't seem very delicacy of him which I was right in the long run, but I was. So wears his moral line that like using humans as test subjects like, no, no, no I'm not okay with that. But like I feel like other things. Things he has done has been just as bad like where is deluxe his moral line turns out. He doesn't have one, but this has got to be his plan all along why he wanted to befriend the gargoyles why he wanted to get them to live upstate Xanadu. He wanted to do genetic experiments. Right? This has gotta be. You would think except for you'd. You'd think that this kind of mutation. Well, as we see, it doesn't take very long, but you think if there any kind of reality in the show that this would be like a long process, right? You can however as it turns out, turn a human into some sort of mandible and in a period of hours days, Navy tops. So what happens here? Deluxe is disgusted at the human testing. He's like I'm GonNa, shut this down. I did not authorize this. This is terrible and don't you captives worry? We're GONNA, find a cure. We're going to reverse this. We got you covered and snake is like, no, this is my life's work. I'M NOT GONNA. Let you do it. He pulls out a gun and Derek doing his duty as bodyguard shields deluxe from being shot. Now, he wasn't shot with a trank DART or Or bullet. That's it was shot with the mutation juice. Initially, they knew that Derek would jump in front, but Derek hadn't jumped in front. I. Guess, Deluxe would have been turned into a gargoyles creature got. So we have to assume at this point in the episode right now. Yes. But because Derek is good at his job, he saved his boyfriend. He is new -tated, and then develop also fucking spin kicks across the Goddamn face. Remember that really liked a high. Kicking old man of the face. So Derek is now mutated. He start sweating, his eyes start changing and we fade to black Liz. Break as we grieve for poor Derek, he's in some trouble. Thanks for listening. Help others find our show by rating and reviewing itunes checkout calamity cast dot com for even more content and follow us on facebook twitter and Instagram to get in touch and let us know how we're doing. If discord your things are served. 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So my next no is, do you think this is all a setup by deluxe at this point, it's hard to tell. It is really hard to tell which that is clever writing i. feel like they did that. Well, yeah, and what kind of wish I just stuck with that? Yeah. I do too. Because what the show does too frequently is hand wave away. The things that deluxe couldn't have possibly known because there are just too many. Many variables and life, right? Like it's one thing to be like, Oh, I can assume someone might do this thing by you don't actually know how these people are going to react. They're not robots. So I think it's a little too easy for deluxe angry unless he's got some sort of power that we don't know. Yeah, and I'm not going to put pass this show, but he doesn't typically fuck with magic. No, that's DELMONICO's job he signs. And he would. He forces nape to get started on the antidote. Tells, the cops to fuck off the air and Derek continues with his transformation. He turns quickly and again I don't think that that should be possible. I. Mean I know this is a children's animated program, but still I don't think we mentioned it. But the cops that we see it's a dream boat with Matt, and then we jump back to the fucking clock tower again, I don't WanNa be. Nothing. Useful comes of these clock our scenes. Yeah. It's pretty much dream. About Tells Brooklyn. There's nothing she can do because there's no evidence in they don't have any proof that anything actually happened. So she can't just barge in there because she passed to play by the rules, you can't just go using your brother and his helicopter to tail and stock a citizen. You can't bend or break any rules as a detective that would be legal. Get you. Jimbo Really Goes back and forth on When she's willing to use her power. And for what? Although it's hilarious. If she knew the two people that were in that building, she would have kicked in the fucking door. Right? Then and there that's points. She doesn't know that deluxe. Jax Dick Dick and she doesn't know that. Her brother is a Batman. About Boys. Brooklyn doesn't believe in laws. He's just GonNa deal with Shit himself. Maybe you can do anything June built, but I can, that's my Brooklyn Voice. It's bring it. Thank you. Thank you. Work shopping it. Back. To Jen. Tag. Snakes mixing chemicals whose porn stuffy spin and shit and a centrifuge, and meanwhile derek corner just having his genetic code rewritten. That's it. Back to the clock tower. I really don't like. Ping, Pong, yes, episodes. Yeah. That's a good phrase for it. I. Just feel like when you move from scene to scene, you should always be going forward. Now, I'm not a professional writer, but I. Feel like even a dumb person like me knows that you always push forward and I feel like this is a two steps forward, one step back situation the entirety of this episode, there's only twenty three minutes or whatever to get shit done I. Know. Okay. We get to see gargoyles wake up. Waking up scenes, but tone one episode is too much. Yeah. Brooklyn, he's about to take off to say back cat and Goliath is like, Hey, maybe running off half cocked isn't going to help anyone you know I mean, maybe you should chill the fuck out because I have an awesome plan it interesting that. Brooklyn. I feel like they're really trying to like make his character trait of being the hotheaded one like when he gets an idea like he has to see. And is kind of the obsessive one, which isn't great. Instance especially. Hey, Liz. So that's the end of that scene and we go to Jimmy attack where we goliath gliding the boroughs breaking into the lab. So goliaths master plan that we all had to sit and wait for was to do the thing that Brooklyn was going to do. Serious sneak. Into a building. By tearing the fucking. rueful. Fuck that he thinks Brooklyn was going there to do. Brooklyn, probably would at least just breakthrough through a window like a roof while he goes for the window, he goes to the skylight, but Lexington sees that there are like trip wires. Right, right. Right. Good. I'll Lexington and your ability to see that. Shit. I guess goliaths plan was take Lexington like that's the plan. Bring the science on with us because other than that, it was break into building rescue back cat, which is what Brooklyn was GonNa do he was just gonNA use the window instead of a giant hole that he ripped into the ceiling, which apparently doesn't set off alarms. I mean I. Guess of you own the building I. Feel. You'd be more likely to protect the windows that assume that giant a whole is going to be ripped through the roof and ceiling all a fancy business lab I would assume more than simply safe type setup. Dollar a day can get simplisafe's setup on your windows doors. You get a camera on the front door. Got Yourself all safe unless a gargoyles rips a hole for your roof. By the way, as we all know, roofs are concrete that go directly into the highest floor of the building. There's no ceiling roof gap where say electrical wiring goes or h van back or your internet or? Through. All that to no, he did not because we see them come down it a whole. Like a piece of fucking paper. Again. It's on those things like how strong is Goliath actually is strongly needs to be for the writer to get the stupid thing that they need does. Anyway, so there inside now and. Lexington is able to hack a system because he has those skills now. into the Matrix I don't know who knows. Kung. Fu. Panda. Let's find burglars. Girlfriends. Like. Real. Lexington jumps on the Fucking Fuck With Brooklyn Bandwagon here. Fair feel like Brooklyn. Deserves to be fucked with at this point i. feel like he is acting a little lovesick. It's singlemindedness. They all have in their solo is episodes. Yeah. Just the other episodes we haven't ever seen the other gargoyles giving that Gargoyles, shit for what their obsession focuses on. Oh No, you hate guns now What's the good? You. beat me. Up Behind Lexington and goes like. I'm the pack. Someone paints a little Fox around there. I like Oh guess who I am Jesse. You guys are supposed to be rookery brother. You big. dicks to her. Kids are asshole. is they don't know specifically about genetic mutations or whatever. So they see some sort of winging gargoyles type thing in need. Why isn't everybody jumping to help these people I know? And, I mean even Goliath. Is like let's go saving girlfriend buddy and he doesn't really care. It seems like until he runs into the room in here in a little bit and sees Caesar's hiding. All right. Let's get there. Okay. So Lexington finds back cat because he knew exactly what he was looking for. Brooklyn's like she's she's. She's Marquette. Find that person. How does hacking the system help you figure you shut your? Mouth. You don't know like Lexington knows. It's true. Okay. So they move in and they save her and she does not want this. No, she's want any of it. She's like Oh God. I don't want to be here I. Don't WanNa be a back yet. I don't want you. I mean, she doesn't want to be a back cat you have to think this is her best chance of not being a back at a staying here was her. She knows because deluxe has made it known like we will find the antidote to make you all back to human. So she's like, okay, I mean if that guy trusted should trust him too. So she's like, no, no, no I don't want to be. Be this monster, I, want to be human go away. She should perhaps say some of those things though if they are true like, no, I'm not supposed to be this way I used to be human this. She does shed at some point the end. Yeah. But the poor girl just keeps getting trying to over and over again. So she doesn't have the ability to really logically also they rescue her against her will. And this is when the room is stormed by Helmet Brigade and they fire off more trained as you say, she gets trying to Kim. So, she is kidnapped again, I feel like that's been her entire story arc so far which is fucked up now that I, say out loud and she's been kidnapped like three times in fifteen minutes. Yeah. Yikes, and our friends, the Gargoyles scooper up and they make their escape. But not the way they came Liz because that would make too much sense. It wouldn't allow for what happens next what happens next. Well, they gotta find away out somehow. So they storm into I. Guess the next room over which happens to be the lab snakes lab where Derek is just about to get the antidote, the Gargoyles Bargin, and fucking Goliath. Let's out a Zona does. Should've known? Not Now man trying to get my meds glass. Really Fuck, shit up here. I don't know what he was trying to do, but neither busy. Just knows he hates to lock like. I feel like his obsession with his hatred for deluxe rivals. His love for Dream Boat. I'm like, do you love more? Do you think that he loves hating deluxe more? So. In one part of one scene, he kills a man, he ruins Derek's life and it looks like he makes deluxe the ultimate good guy in the. Like that's how it appears twenty seconds. It's like we know Dream Boat is team Gargoyles, but en- Derek's perspective, it's deluxe was trying to make him stay human or go back to being human and this fucking gargoyles barges in and ruins everything. So goliath is enemy number one now. fucking. lutely. Okay. So what happens is the gargoyles crash in the Helmet Brigade is right on their tails. There's the fight and there's more chaos. They've got this antidote ready to go for Derek and they're about to inject. Inject him and it's not from snakes, hands and goes crashing to the floor and breaks. Yeah. Only made enough for one. Yeah. Because it would be too easy to make two doses and save the day. Still that's not high tension enough. Right. And as you said, this makes the gargoyles enemy number one for Derek, which, yeah. That'd be pretty upset if I'm like I don't want to have wings. You knocked away my medicine now have wings y'all decks. Yeah. Probably less children that no, he's very angry. Goliath remembering the success he had forgetting in the building repeats that process to get out of the building couldn't do it in the room back there, but he proceeds to rip a hole in the ceiling, which is we've mentioned earlier, there's no wiring or anything up there. There's no duct work just right on outside and a try to escape because the building has two zero windows. I'm guessing don't want anyone senior bat creatures. skylight so. So the girls are working their way out snipe grabs onto glides leg because they have that cat, they're kidnapping and personal. Yeah. Like no, she belongs to me. Goliath is having none of it. flings sleep across the room which breaks the EEL case. Aquarium. It's like a from a zoo and aquarium. So big, why do they have? Sorry for the EELS. Please I insist continue. So snake ends up in a pile of electric emails and water and water electricity are a wonderful together and he's on the floor, just twitching and twitching and. He gets wrapped up in these ills like a kitten in a big baller yard, like how how did this happen? The eels just wanted to snuggle heels. Love to, hug. Yeah. Okay. He'll. is now I, don't think they do like to. Hug. I'M GONNA. Go look this up. I'M GONNA be right back. You stay here. I'm going to take a break. You Know Yuki podcasting. Look. Food. In the U. Twenty, one, hundred years cybernetic enhanced population threatened to tear down everything America held dear free speech drive-thru, liquor stores, and guns so many guns. 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That's why they're well outlined packages. Or maybe since their cat creatures they received in their bodies now that saw. Wow. I dare actually angry what he's like word. My Dick. Cat. Digs. Are Weird. Or Weird and listen this is something up hang out freely and he can't do that anymore. Goliath. Took that away from him. Yeah. Goliath. There with us. Extra Large loincloth that's gotta hang down really low. He's got a fucking rub it in Deir Penis, received into his body when he's not using it, go by you son of a bitch. Isn't that weird that I get mad about anything. It's your super proud. It's a special power. Able to be angry about the dumbest shit. Let's go back and clock. Tower. Right. So the Might called her victim because again, her kidnapped her. Terrified by what she sees, she sees a group of monsters surrounding her on even there yet. So she's not even like, Oh, look human. She's like I am not I am not a monster. I am Maggie. Well Ohio Mega raid. Ohio. Inviting you work as a bummer. Ohio. Socks. Sorry. All of our listeners from Ohio, but you know it's So. They say that she's among friends like eight chill. You're among friends were just people that you don't know that we kidnapped you. We brought you to a place. You don't know where you are. fucking. Brooklyn, and friends is a stranger danger moment. So glad this like, Hey, I'll like time. Go sleep sleep. So who will we'll deal later we have to assume she does not to stone. No, she's not a gargoyles. Sunday, she watches these creatures turn into stone is probably like. What she lured walk is happening is I think only the second time we hear her speak, and now that she's got a name I would like to tell you. I don't know her name, but she's from Oh. My God. You got me too excited. Button, who framed Roger Rabbit and? Shut up. She's love from space jam little from space jam. I. Didn't look up how to pronounce her last name, Saucy? Yes. She's south here. So she is also Phil and Lil from rugrats. Did a lot of star, wars star, wars rebels, long history, long career in voice acting, but the best slow I ain't noticed that she was cute Farnsworth and Futurama I. Don't know if you remember that curfew got into. Always always like if it were on, I, watch it. But I've never really seen it. Anyway, her name who I've not said yet Kathy Southsea I believe is how you pronounce that and if I got it wrong listeners I'm sorry, anyway. He's left alone while they're stone. Can you imagine watching like you're talking to wing men and they're like, all right? We're going to bed and you're standing there terrified like what, and then they go outside and turn to stone. You're like, what is my life now? She's going to run away. Yeah. The how do you think she ran the ship? notify. That, she knows how to fly. That's a good question that never crossed my mind. Did you just run down through the police station like? This runs through. Wouldn't. Recognize that bat cats some sort of back. That is another flaw in this episode. As many flaws. Yeah. Because they don't have the strength. Or do they. We don't know don't know. Is it safe to go flying as a bad cat flying around new? York City in broad daylight. Also, I would say, probably not back to Jin Tech, Dream Boat and Matt, or scoping out the wrecked lab. Now is this supposed to be a crime scene at this point, I mean I assume. So but there's no evidence of a crime. Snipe is gone. The EELS are gone. What are we as an audience supposed to believe they think happened? was. The detectives Dream Boat. In Matt are kneeling in a pool of water. They're looking at a pile of dry papers like they found papers and then say, Hey, we should discuss these over here in this punt. Why are they? Why are they in waterless? The papers aren't dripping wet. The pay come from the water. They look through a filing cabinet and said, hey, my shoes look dry. Let's go over there. From these easily and readily available records that are bone-dry. Learn. The editorial owns this fucking organization. Tech. No Shit. No. Fucking Shit. Oh. My I mean, we didn't know know that up to this point, but we've been watching this show for fifteen episodes. Albert fucking knew. That otherwise, why would have had the paper? Yeah. Why? Why would he gone over there to talk about expense reports and TPS? Also, probably public record. Even think she could google that. She could have alta visted. It asked Jeeves Jeeves who owns Virginia Tech. Other than that. All we know from this scene is that to be in water. Dream Boat loves a wet shoe. Remember back to the bugging clocked our or at least we don't have to see them wake up. They could do this every time now. Yeah. We don't have to see the stone break. We get it. We can see the sun set and then just being awake I feel, we don't need the rocks, which is Kinda what they did here. Yeah. They they're like Oh. Maggie's gone. No Shit. You probably left as soon as we went to sleep, nobody cares that. There's a lot of focus on the wrong shit in this episode, and I just wonder at what point does. Broadway. His Lexington and even goliaths say we give up this lady doesn't want our help. We brought her here to a safe place. We didn't tell her say plays who we were, but she doesn't help were done before they went to bed when she was still with them. Them Brooklyn was being like extra Hansie in here. He's like she needs. Yes. Yeah. No, she does not sir on like. All right, dude, like you need a fucking calmed down. Yeah. This is when I was like, oh, he is becoming obsessive. It's disturbing and it's very unbecoming of a young gentleman one, hundred percent. So please come down Castle Wyans. Rent I don't WanNa. Talk about. The end like the big. Yeah. This is the big reveal. Right? Like we see the cat coils flying. Yeah. We see. Derek like doing tricks Derek like aren't guys. We need to figure out these wings and then he owned my lead and they're all just like, okay and blindly jump off the side of the building. Yeah. They don't like try to do some wing flutters above ground for is like. Maybe jump from one part of the tower today. The part of the tower sounds like a control jump. No, they're just free airing it. Yeah. Off Of Castle in the highest point on the planet yeah. Good Luck Guy Oh they're fine. They're actually they're fine. It's totally cool I. Think hold they don't have any clothes on I mean the gargoyles dominant clothes on, but maybe the gargoyles are cold blooded I. Think they are why aren't they giving clothes? These are people that are used to wearing clothes. They're not used to hanging around in their underwear flying with bat wings like give these mother fuckers Parker especially that high up in the sky. Yes, LIZ is. In the sky. I mean, it's a good thing. They're Dick's already retract because they'd be doing it right now. Wearing, little thong. So the cargo show. Dumps like a truck truck truck. Was the Gargoyles they show up. Aerial fight scene, and it's one of the weaker fight scenes in the tire. Really amped up by and said, they had to focus on ping pong between locations. Yeah. This is where the show shines is the aerial battles. Yeah. This was sad. This is when we see. Brooklyn get gross within where he's full on like trilby wearing red pill just. He chases after Maggie. Yeah. She doesn't want anything to do with them now, and he's like I just WanNa hold your hand and smell your hair. Why won't you let me love you and she electrocute him. Yeah. Happy. Powers. You brought Zappia powers earlier. This is when we I, see them. I guess they their emails or however it's supposed to work, but they have you'll powers. Now Debbie's happy Derek and Goliath tussle because Derrick hates Goliath. Now he shed. Yeah. He totally should and dream boat shows up and in boats like don't you hurt my boyfriend, why are you here my pal? WHO's just whenever just fans I swear I swear I'm not fucking him too soon as dick one hundred times whatever. Right, he flies around the. New York, city just guys who is that your Dick up things Christ I. Didn't know snakes fly. Right, and then this is when dream boat is like. You know we'll. We'll take care of your will protect you a help you. Promise. She does her heart crossing things, cross my heart, and he does it back to her and she is a. He's a don't look at me. It's very dramatic and then Dream Boat chumps immediately blaming deluxe for this whole situation, and at this point in the episode, I was kind of on the fence about deluxe is role in Derek transformation. Yeah. He hired snipe, he hired Derek, but he is doing such a good job of not knowing the full scope, the situation regarding snakes shenanigans in as we are about to learn and I brought it up earlier I. IT turns out. He's the mastermind. You're skipping a very important thing. Okay. What am I skipping I? Really want to get to the end of the episode. But Derek Shocks Dream Boat. Yes he does, but I don't feel like he like is not malicious. There's no behind. It was entirely accidental. It was one hundred percents. None of these goals understand how their Schalke powers work yet, but it happened and it's intense and she's very upset and he's very upset about it like he's so upset that he hurt her. Yeah. Oh, you know what else we're skipping before we get to the end of the scene as the he's given himself a new. Name WanNa Hal it, and I wonder how long he'd been sitting on that is like The cool, Ghoul name just in case I don't get turned back human talent. Probably. Could have done better. Okay. It's okay. Yeah. and. Then just kind of ends with a bunch of sad looks, and he kinda takes off. He sowed. Yeah. We quickly move into deluxe his office, and as we've spoiled early on deluxe was behind all of it. Okay. And as I said before, it would have been a nicer version of expectations if he genuinely didn't understand the breadth of snakes experiments, but it is what it is. He's the mastermind that knows everything even the things that he couldn't possibly know. Okay. So this all went according to plan and I guess the plan is to just have genetic hybrids like is that the plan? D Do we finally understand his plan now? Because at this point like he got Derek to trust him? Him and Derek still thinks that he's trying to turn him back. So like I mean, he's going to be manipulating Derek for awhile. He just likes to manipulate people that small deck of his he has to overcompensate somehow. Yeah. Oh, way snake faked his death. Right? He's back. That was all part of the plan was looking extremely young part of the plan to or is that just another like animation mistake in this final scene where we seize neighb-, he looks way younger than. He looked very different. Yeah. I don't know if A. Is He was wearing before. Did the ills give him youth power because he had like gray streaks in his hair early on walking with the cane I was very pronounced. But here, he just kind of struts in. He's got like a nice fade going on. No, Greg. Honestly it I thought it was Matt when I first glance stop because reading notes. Young yeah. I don't know what the purpose of that is because it's not addressed. I would assume an animation fuck. I'm thinking he either was a disguise or the eels gave him special powers. Hey, if only someone would say something regarding this you. Know God, and then we go back to the clock tower. This is a really sad scene, but because of the previous twenty one and a half minutes at this point I gave up. This is when Brooklyn. She hasn't won us. She doesn't want me yeah. That was to progress, but then you just want a sentiment is like I fucked up, I fail, and then there's just weeping and hey, and hey, hey. The clock tower. have. Hey. Why isn't? Goliath. Hey. Girlfriend. Real. Sad here. Take the chair. Yeah. The throne that we know is there please make yourself comfortable. Let me come for you and says she's balled up in a pile of fucking. Hey, herself as everyone watches from a distance, is that Bronx's hey, look at least bronx should be like a dog. Let me snuggle you. That's it is a nearly wordless scene as everyone is just sad and she weeps and we and okay, we'll be right back whatever I know. Hey there listeners are you into Alpha Male, bad. Ass Ladies, and happily ever after. Checkout. Another great calamity cast podcast, Dick of the week where I chat with my co-host. But everything we love in sometimes eight about both writing and reading romance novels. So grab a glass of wine get comfortable, and let's get down and dirty about roaming, find it on calamity cast dot com or wherever you find your podcast. Loser. Yup, we're the nights. Talk about gargoyles learn finished episode to season two. You know. I'm. What is you? I like a lot of concept's about this episode like I think the concept of there being the back cat people is really really interesting to me and I think that's how I initially I had mostly positive feelings because I am very intrigued by that especially because Derek and how that's going to affect dream boat there. Now, Derek knows that dream vote is in cahoots with the GARGOYLES. Yeah. So there's a little tidbits that I. Really liked by Brooklyn was horrible like I did not like Brooklyn List and I love Brooklyn bomber for me. I didn't like his attitude at all and how he was treating fat cat. Now, he read from Ohio Maggie read from Ohio? Oh. Very transatlantic there. I've been watching Hollywood the TV show on that flake foods like old Hollywood when they when they had to speak with that transatlantic voice all the time. and. Like I said, I'm intrigued with. Derek. And Dream vote brother sister relationship, and how now him being this creature is going to affect things and yeah. Is he going to still be team deluxe for the long run or is he going to realize deluxe is using him the way that Dream Boat has said all along that. He would. Yeah. I, guess second see that silent point where that tragedy and how to deal with going forward I. Don't think that this. This show is sophisticated, enough handle the required nuance for something like that things I want. I, don't think in theory. It's a bad idea and I. I. Don't think that it's built for something like that up to this point. Anyway, including this episode like this was a failure to deliver I, think what is required for a storyline that that's fair. So I brought it up earlier, I brought it up in a couple of times. How did you feel about Broadway's? His attitude towards back. Have quite honestly, I didn't notice it at first because I was so turned off by. Brooklyn. But looking back at it now I'm like Oh. Yeah. Like Brooklyn was being weird obsessive. He was being dismissive, which is also not great for their supposed to be the defenders of the night. Glad. That I'm not alone in feeling that way. It was like, Oh, this isn't my cause. So it's like I'll go along with it but I don't care. Yeah Yuck Broadway and Yuck. Brooklyn and you know what you're. To. Bother me in this episode really except when he liked the hall. Girlfriend, yeah. Well, he didn't have much to do now. He. The system, did he did he? I guess Hudson gets a pass Bronx. It's past Goliath. Great. Wasn't great. He made a lifelong enemy is definitely not a good bridge to burn. Now, you want to be friends with your significant other siblings of you can, yes. 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Episode 106: We Shouldnt Believe Everything We See On TV

Defenders Of The Night

58:01 min | 6 months ago

Episode 106: We Shouldnt Believe Everything We See On TV

"Think. We are defenders. The night. The most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favourite mid-nineties animated program Gargoyles. Every time I'm your host Liz and I'm your host Daniel Williams. Today? Liz were out of the awakening. We have woken up were. Past the first. We are covering season one episode, six of Gargoyles called the thrill of the hunt. Tell me more was. This is when the episodes finally A. Earlier on in our series we were discussing whether or not this continued to be daily show or a weekly show, and now this is it. This is the evidence weekly. No, no, he could've looked it up five episodes ago, but we chose not to listen. You know what sometimes things just have to happen a certain way organically organically I. You don't want to spoil yourself listen. If we wanted to know how the story went, we wouldn't be doing a podcast. It's true we kind of Jesse. Now read read. The wikki read the wikipedia. At the old school way one at a time this episode, the Thrill of the hunt aired November fourth nineteen ninety-four, but that wasn't election day. What do you think very pasta I? No idea what am I talking I don't know again. I could look it up. I'm not going to. It doesn't matter. I couldn't vote back then. Milo like six months old. It was like five. Liz! This episode was written by Michael. Reeves who I suppose it's going to stay on because he's written everything up to this point or co wrote it was directed by Saburo Hashimoto in Katsuo, Terada and I got nothing else ready to get into it. Yeah, let's do it. Take me to Santos Tower. Yes, Sir okay. So! It starts with a Dream Boat, walking and talking with fucking. God He's the worst and she's all lake. Be Back. Even though I just busted your boss. Yeah, well, it's because deluxe is such a good guy team. You know capital G., capital, G, good guy. He just wants to be everyone's pal. Right and yeah, nothing nefarious going on here, nothing at all. Why would he want this to happen? But Allen walks her although up to the roof for the gargoyles are currently in stone, but you can tell that night is coming and within seconds they're waking up for the night and. I don't know if you noticed dream boats face, but she was real excited when Goliath burst through his rock burst through his rock and I. You sent me a screen shot I didn't notice originally, but she is just. She is there. Some bedroom is. Is I had to rewind and we watch. It sounds cool. What is that? They are they are projecting really hard in the show. The kind of relationship that dream. Boat and Goliath have. It's intense. Yeah, the brogue oils immediately piece the fuck out. Yeah, they do and she's like we're they going and glide says Oh. They've discovered television. They're really excited to watch it at nighttime. It's weird because they fly away. Yeah, they're like flying to the next level of the Caspian Yeah 'cause they're on a tower, and so they were like jumping down. Yeah, it doesn't appear that way, but it makes the most sense because we see him later like burst into the TV room. It's weird because Hudson's already in the TV room and the guys are like even though we love me here, we are Hudson like books like he's running for the TV room because there's not vo yet now. On that schedule, they're still in that tiny room with the one chair, though like it's not like they're in like a living room, situation with couches and a big screen and all that. What do you think that they've got that kind of money? Santos does and test our two miles above. The ground. God what do you think Goliath thinks of their behavior because they are still supposed to be guardians right checking shit out making sure the castle is safe. It's not like they did a fly around to make sure everything's Okay and then went to watch TV that's what they were doing. Maybe they do their rounds real fat. I accidentally candidate bit. Head Canada. Oh Canada Oh Canada maybe that is exactly what they had like. They have like all right little buddies. You can watch TV, but you gotta do your Chores I. Okay, you know what we've explained it now. It makes yeah well. glaive has his own priorities, but before he can rip off that link cloth and just take dream boat to town. Turns out. She's got some bad news for him. They're going to have to go. Because deluxe is only serving six months in jail for quote, receiving stolen goods, and it's not going to be safe for them when he gets back. What leg rich person bullshit is this like? Oh, six months. Maybe I'm surprised. He got jail time because he's supposed to be the world's Tony Stark Right Tony. Stark would never ever go to prison unless he wanted to. Who knows I, don't. Oh, so she's telling him. Hey, buddy! This isn't going to be safe for you. You all need to relocate and move elsewhere and thank her. What do you think she lives I think she lives in a studio apartment. That's not going to be great, a half dozen stone statues and a hammock. But I guess they could like perch on top of her roof. Right like if she's like A. Sense. You know. In my world Disa- live in the apartment as she just sees them during the day to hang her laundry exactly. What gets my panties today. And everyday. Joke. Liz they have their first couples fight. It's a big moment i. think we should have okay all right. The point is that it's not safe here for you guys. What are you say? I'm saying you'll have to find a new place to sleep during the day. A new home goliath though this cousin is our home. Sorry, but it's not. Santos bought it lock stock and Gargoyles. Do you understand what I'm saying? Every minute you stay here, you're in danger. You worry too much Lisa. Santos was defeated. We are safe here. I think your head stays rock-hard even at night. While Goliath totally ignores the expert advice of the detective lady who has lots of experience dealing with criminals I'm sure everything will be fine because she doesn't know what she's talking about. And the rest of this episode is no clear indication that maybe her advice should have been followed. I mean. Let's just think about that I. I can okay. Goliath is the Alpha, obviously, even when Dimona was like actively in the photo you could tell. She tried to think that she was the one in charge in like shelvin places, but he did what he wanted. Yeah, he's not good at following directions now. He's not the kind of dude that gets to pretend that he's in charge and then the ladies really pulling the strings. Dude the is making all kinds of bad decisions because he's actually in charge for better for step so from there. We moved to the family room the TV room. Whatever you WANNA, call it. What did you call the room with your television? GROWING UP GROWING UP? Our main TV was in the basement so the. Basement. Yeah, I mean I, guess we Kinda referred that as the family room and like upstairs where the couches and stuff that that was the living room. We just had one TV in the living room when I was younger. And then we moving out of bigger house than we did have a family room and a living room. We were moving on up. We're Nana and they both had television. She had a small TV in the kitchen. I always thought that people that had kitchen teaser. Weirdos. I mean I guess it's pretty common, and I guess now you're Weirdo. You're. You is Weirdo. My in-laws also have a kitchen TV, but he's always like a really married Weirdo. Yeah, it's always a really small TV from the sixties right. Wait! You can carry it like a lunch Pale. Yeah, but he's like he knows they can watch the news while you're cooking or for me. I just bring my laptop into the kitchen and watch a movie while I do things. Some of us. Just get our fucking work done Liz now, so this family. Though there in the family room Hudson's all comfy cozy in his lazy boy. They're watching the pack and he's getting frustrated because he's trying to like. Find something else to watch to see if there's other options and every single channel is showing the pack what the fuck is up with that well, it is late at night I mean you gotta figure before our modern cable situation, a lot of the channels are just playing the same thing like. Channel Law and order on it. I. Don't know China's explain it. Don't remember TV in the early to mid nineties at least nighttime TV Mama's family, probably just running Mama's family over and over again. That's what this is. How does each network has to have its own thing right I. Don't know mine who watch TV and made their own thing. What is that? What even asking net lurks? Don't just show like Oh you have this show, so CBS gets to show it to do. It's called syndication. Okay, but this sounds like a little. An actively being produced show Simpson's is in syndication. Yeah? Anyway, so Hudson's getting frustrated and then the. Burst and they're like. And repack in the pack and they're into it. Hudson is like yeah, the pack it's fine. I like it. I WanNa watch other things, too, man. Yeah, he, I don't even watch the same thing every night, and like you guys. Go explore the city, but that's cool anyway. Tell us about the pack. Daniel, the pack of appears to be a television program about a group of animal themed I'm GonNa say Heroes Yeah because they fight evil. Ninjas they don't fight good niches, so I guess they're supposed to be the good guys. We Have Fox. WHO's the leading foxy? Yeah, that's the. Wolf are Bingo Bingo I jaw baby, Hyena, two women I ain't woman to. There can be too because they're progressive. And, Jackal and I guess the Ninjas on the bad guys if they're evil. Constantly it only references evil Ninja and fighting them, and they also blow up huge saws. I don't really fully understand the pack, but the Brogue love. Yeah, it almost seems like. Almost I can X. men kind of knock off right like wolf felt like wolverine a little bit, so you're saying that they are mutants. Actors who dressed this way? But I guess maybe it'd be mutants like if are you saying they have sworn to protect a world that hates and fears them, maybe humanity men. Maybe we're the real monsters I mean we are. While so? The packers appearing to night at Madison Square Garden. It's really bizarre advertisement. Yeah, Hey, Larry Timely! Leave Your House right now. I gotta go. What time of year do you think it is? The time of year is GonNa be dependent on Wednesday. Wake up right, not waking up the same time. I was thinking about that like if it's the summertime, they're waking up until eight thirty thirty. Yeah, but in the winter they're waking up at like four thirty way more. Yeah, I'm to play, but it's not snowy in this episode and its New York City right. It'd be freezing maybe October because she's wearing jeans and a jacket right like she wears that for another seventy four episodes. Maybe whether doesn't exist in this universe. Maybe it's always October. The reason I ask is that we eventually see our friends. The Braga go to Madison Square Garden, so they had enough time to wake up, eat four or five meals, depending on which gargoyles were referring to Broadway watch some television and then go to the show. Yes, it's wild time. WHO NEEDS IT? Who's your favorite member of the pack? ooh lines box says she's sexy, because she's a red 'cause, she redhead. She got red head. You now. I feel like I have to say because she's the other woman. That's not what I was expecting. Who Do you think I would pick off come on I? Mean you have a type? Of. Fictional character type I do I guess if you if I were picking based on just this point of the episode than Yeah I'd Pick Wolf. He annoys the crap. Outta me. He's a little tiny baby as we will find out, yes, look. Yes, he's very sexy. You like the Silver Silver Fox sooner. Wolf I d like the Silver Wolf and they will. He does like a little bit like Wolverine who I find very attractive, he's weighed taller than lowering though. Wolfberry canonical only like five three what? Look what he's supposed to be very small. The comics. Really a little baby boy. Ruined him for me or blew my minder a mixture. Of Things. Daniel Wow! Oh, you're having some some feelings very intense right now. Emotions are running high. Among we might need to take a break or something, an unscheduled commercial break. Liz needs a fainting couch. I. Think I may have just hurt Liz, in like a fundamental way. If. We don't have ten thousand downloads after this episode. Because of this interaction, I give up podcasting forever. Good? How are you not an Internet sensation? Working on. Okay, so! Gargoyles. Let's move to pack media studios. is taking their so paint a picture in. An Open Gym area with there's lots of weights being lifted, and they're all doing their thing. You know punching bags and throwing things just practicing the thing that weirded me out is they were practising in their costumes like they were not even consider that, but that is. Weren't wearing like Jim. Yoga pants and not wearing juicy couture. They're all in their costumes. which was the first indications? Are these characters, are they Lake Wolf, actually Wolf, because they all call each other by their character names to no one's like all, I'm Edward. Who Plays Wolf I? Think this is our first indication that this is more than just a TV show. Yeah, or it's just lazy television making, but let's go with the first thing because it's better. Yes, it is better. It's really interesting because I was like okay well. Maybe this is like the X.. Men were given a TV show, but also crime in real over the X. men. We're talking about gargoyles. Come on! She's bizarre, are they? Who are these people? Can I tell you they are? Yes? Please tell you I we've got Fox voiced by Laura Sanchia Komo who is famous for the role of Maya Gao or Gallo I'm not sure on. Just shoot me. I don't know if you ever watch that show I. Did I. don't remember anything about did use to watch that. She was the female lead. And we've got everyone's very favorite voice actor clancy Brown. He is doing wolf. You didn't even know you couldn't even tell no take on Oh my God. And you got to lock into clancy, Brown he's got a great voice and he's all over the show we already know, the might empower his voice, and what it does to men and women the world over. Jacqueline Fox pop over to Michael Woolsey and their voiced by Matt Moore and cree summer respectively all right, okay fru or has done a lot of TV and it's the most. I've never actually seen. Popular shows like altered Carbon Donna Eureka. Librarian. I feel the same. I know the names I know they're very popular TV shows of never seen any of that. He did play mollusc in the two thousand nine film adaptation of Watchmen Okay I'm sure you saw the movie, but it was a very minor character. Actually see the movie Jamil Liz. CREE summer is mostly a voice actor who is done pretty much everything possible. She Voice Cat Woman for DC superhero girls, which is a show, my daughter and I really like she voice Nebula for the animated guardians of the Galaxy. She was the original Voice of Penny in inspector gadget. Chilly Cooper and Slammer, and the real ghostbusters and elmira duff in tiny toon adventures San. Girl Buck. Yeah, and that's just I just grabbed a few her I am DVD. Page is long. Wow, that's really cool following that we have mother fucking. Winnie the Pooh because dingo voiced by Jim Cummings. What Winnie the Pooh endangered the same guy that whole areas so those are wolf, pack. So they're all working out there, doing their thing and wolf fishes, complaining a whole bunch like Dude, you have a job. Your job is to work out and be Honky and fight crime on TV show isn't seen enough action and this is I'm also like okay. Are you actually a wolf like what is happening here that he literal- Wolfman like he's I need more of a challenge and even more action, I need something exciting to happen and being a well-known rich TV star so boring. Well known. Oh my privilege is leaking out of every pore. God this fucking Guy Well Fox is like Whoa. Look this little package that we got mysteriously. Look at my little package. And it's unmarked and they don't know what it is, but they open it and gasp. It's photos of Goliath yeah. And then here I don't know if children are not supposed to realize immediately. What's happening, but as adults lives I don't know about you, but I figured it out. Don't WanNa Brag or anything, but I think Santos all deluxe. It's got something to do with this. That makes sense Fox is like. Can you just imagine hunting? These guys is going to be so great. Never mind all of these. These civilian casualties that were likely to cause no big deal, so we kill a few people. We also get to kill giant winged behemoths. This is like where I was like what the fuck are these things people whatever that are like yes I need to go on a hunt I. Must Hunt to kill. These are people that, after seeing pictures that were unmarked and delivered mysteriously believed that. That they're seeing actual living beings right. Are these the dumbest people in New York. Why is there I thought? These things are real, and we should kill them. They heard rumors about Dachas coming alive. Yes, had heard rumors, but hyena little unsure about at all. Yeah, she seemed to actually be questioning it and not just really. Let's just go do this thing well. I'm glad that one of Of them was like, you know what these are probably dudes in masks, right? This is ridiculous, and it doesn't matter which one actually made that claim because they all go on this dumb hunt. How did they know it wasn't like from a competing television show? That's going to be fighting gargoyles in it or something. How do they know it wasn't in Canada? Like what are we doing here? None of this makes any sense. So then folks like whatever whatever we'll deal with it later. We gotTA show to put yeah I know. I brought it up, but never mind. Let's go do our job. Yeah, which fair fair! We have to go to Madison Square Garden. We're actually very famous and we are very late. Yeah! So. We're there and there's this big live show going on. It looks fun. Yeah, yeah, they're all in character, a bunch of Evil Ninjas, appear? What's how do and fighting and. Was your glossing over the fact that somehow. Got Into Madison Square Garden and are watching the show. They're hiding above in the rafter. How did they get in? An open window I don't know listen. I've never been to Madison Square Garden, but I can't assume that there's just open. What like? I got nothing because it doesn't make any sense opened themselves. They Punch through Madison, Square Garden of Skylights I have no idea. Anyway up of shows off the rails Liz. Yes, they're up above in the rafters watching this performance. Go on, and they're all obviously think it's like the coolest thing ever. It's one of the things like the antennas super into it was. Have you ever seen a show like this before? Have you ever been to like alive thing? Now what is this? Promotional. Right. I don't know I've ever seen your favorite television. Characters live I don't think so really. Yeah, I have Tommy. Maher, well when island we boy, I went and saw the teenage mutant Ninja Turtles live in concert today, performed music did perform music and a show, and when I was four or five years old I was excited as Lexington. It. Was Amazing. I got the cassette I wore the fuck out I'm sure my parents just wanted to break it open and tear all the tape out of it right in front of my little is guess. It's a head of the same thing is going to like Disney on ice and being like in your little kid brain. You're like Oh. That is actually Moana wasn't dumb enough to think that they were actually the Ninja Turtles. Fiery Ninja, turtles cartoon. Talking about mid suits. In the real world Liz. Disney and I think that actually Cinderella and she's a cartoon. They don't. Yes, they do. I've never met a child before moving on. Yes, I have never seen anything like that before. You've never lived. Apparently not so the pros are watching the show and they're impressed. Lexington is super duper into it and you know they look all bad ass. Lexington all Longley's like. It'd be really cool guys. No Lexington how many humans have you met that you can trust? Like one they've met. They met one dream. Boat is the only one I was gonNA. Say El Capitan, but. Guy. As it turns out, so the show ends Lexington pieces out. He's like. Hey, you guys will catch up with you later. I why? The Hell did Brooklyn and Broadway like Kubo? Could you back at the castle and nothing? Bad's going to happen. It's meant preclude voice. Listen Liz because we're friends. I'm going to be honest with you. It needs more okay. It's a good start. Needs more. Have my sunglasses on. That's the problem that is part of it. And they leave him with the humans I mean. What did they think he was going to do? It was probably like Wilma. Belly's hungry, so whatever by need a Turkey leg? It's Turkey legal clock. We cut to a random corridor behind the stage is the pack makes their way down stairs into the dressing rooms. Presumably, when suddenly Lexington how the Hell did you get up there? Come down here. He's up in different rafters. Yeah, how was he traversing this place? He's never been in before. How does he do everything that he does? He just always knows. So he jumps down and the packers like Oh, he's so tiny. Come on. It'll in the one. They're not impressed with this. No, yeah, a Fox is like well. I had heard of someone bigger. I would really like to meet him as she kinda like grabs his face, being Alexa deductive, weird like Fox. Keep it in your pants. She knows that there are bigger gargoyles. Yeah, why doesn't she think that? This is a child Gargoyles in? Why is she all bonds this? Maybe Child Gargoyles, that's Gross Rouse Fox here. Ropes I don't care if you're pretty. Anyway so the most Gullible Garg Oil, he's made some new human friends and he's like. You guys are the good guys. You fight evil. You do what I do like. You protect people. It's great. Let me buddy us like. Can you take us to the big oil. Take to your leader, and he's like absolutely new. Best Pals ever were making so many new friends. Fade to black because they immediately kill. ooh I think of the commercial. Album! Hello this is Mike and I'm here to tell you about my podcasts comparing apples to oranges each month. One of my brilliant co hosts an. I consume two pieces of media that are new to us. Usually move here in album. We start each episode with a little background or Create a set criteria to figure out which one is better. Make things a little different. Things in the same category that don't belong in Saint. John for example some past episodes had great Cocoas, comparing to road trip movies to albums by the famous artists in two movies that scored zero percent on rotten tomatoes. CHECK US out each month wherever you download podcast or head over to the CATO podcast step logs dot com. Thanks bye. lessor back. Yes, we're a castle and who good it's almost dawn in Lexington is not back yet, and you know Goliath isn't happy about. What the fuck is even doing this whole time. Because as we were talking about the time of day earlier, yeah, say they went to an eight o'clock show. Madison Square Garden Guess Give it ninety minutes short forms. Even though it felt like ten, then Lexington hangs out with the pack shore nine hours ten at wh-, good point. I didn't even think about that right like I don't know like. He was already on board with them, so it's not like they had to try to win him over to him to show them Goliath. Maybe. They went and got snacks maybe to train with them. Maybe he had all his little gargoyles dreams come true. Maybe fucks kept coming on like I. Don't know. Maybe there was some Fox. GARGOYLES COITUS CEO. L. Where you're not a fan of that word. No I'm not a fan of the idea of Fox taking advantage of poor little Lexington. Yeah, okay, so no matter what he was doing. He shows up right before the sun comes up. He's so excited. Yeah, he tries to tell Goliath about his new friends and it doesn't go well. Let's take a listen. I made some new allies. Mac I sure do. They're just like they defend the innocent and they do it on television. You look see you. Yes I did and why not? You make friends with Lisa. That was different I mean I, gotTa say it. Lexington is a fucking idiot. Yeah, and Daddy Goliath all like my friendship would dream. Boat is different or Dick's involved. But aside from that. How is it different you know I guess because she is just a pure of heart lady, but like how did he know that like? He immediately was like I trust you. And Goliath has the best track record of humans who he can trust El Capitan. David so. Others think of his relationship with Dimona. He is always getting duped. Jess humans and gargoyles alike. They are tricking him Yep. He thinks with his brain and his. Dick nope I went to say. He thinks that his heart and his Dick is Dick, I, though yes. Dick Ford. His his thinking tick forward. All of this is going to have to wait. Because here comes the Sun Doot Doo. Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo. That's not how the tune goes Liz. Sorry I thought you had my back here. You did not. Doodoo here comes the. Acid it's all right to live. This is high. Whether it's gas alive in the next night. The argument picks up literally right where it left off. That is funny. That's a comedic beat that I. Think was underserved. Right like! Oh, we're all stone and immediately Legu-. Can they think when they're stone I? Don't know because we see them turned completely to stumble, but when they burst out, it's just an outer layer. We've talked about this. Is it like a Caterpillar to imagining that? Client is just so angry in his stone. Just like I didn't finish thing to him. I didn't get to finish lecturing to him and just stewing over. The eight hours, of Sun or whatever and just like immediately. Alright little boy knows exactly what he's going to say. Like when you leave an argument and like That's what I should have said you come back to it in this situation. Yes, he plotted all out in his brain. It's weird because the night before it seemed like everyone was on the side of Goliath. You know what the fuck were you thinking? The other boroughs who are like I cannot believe you did that tonight on the other hand. Suddenly they're all backing lex. It doesn't make sense. Hudson says he's seen the pack fight the evil Ninjas on the picture box, and Hudson you know it's called a Goddamn television. What are you doing Hicks shoebox in Weird? Lexington goes on to say that he's not stupid. It's not like he told all the all the gargoyles secrets right then, what was he? He had to have been fucking G. maybe he had sex with Fox and HYENA. Maybe I'm reading him all wrong. Maybe had sex with Jackal and Wolf I don't think wolf would be into that Jackson Small Jackal probably. Yeah, he's too small for Wolf Yeah. I don't mean to assign Hetero normative to all of these characters. I apologize to our listeners I'm making assumptions based on my truth, and that's not fair. Yes, I take it back. Lexington. Then delivers a passionate plea to Goliath, and how about we take a listen? I guess, but I firmly against Lexington in this entire episode, so we're GONNA. Listen I. Think? He's dumb. Luck, will you please meet them before you judge them? I think if anyone would understand this day would we can't hide from the whole world appear. There are kindred spirits out there for us, but we've got to look for them. We've got to give them a chance. Arouse. We'll always be alone all right. Take me to meet. Any convinces. Goliath you bunch of Dum, dums? Liz We're moving back to pack media studio. So this is what Lexington was doing last night for the eight or nine hours, he was gone. He was hanging out at the gym because he knows exactly where the studio is, and he knows that the doors unlocked. He knows where to go in the building. They gave him a tour. They treat this kid. He is he's got to work out with them. Yeah, he felt so bad ass and cool. You think they gave him a t shirt. How probably? Like you know biggest fan. They duped him That's wrong. This dumb idiot got duped lexin Goliath stroll into the as I said, unlocked unguarded television studio in our immediately ambushed. The pack doesn't take slow. They plow on through boy. There's a grenade. There's automatic weapons firing like the five. How do they have this shit? Yeah, it's got to become clear that they are not. TV personalities. I, they stumbled into that profession. They are mercenaries are gargoyles. Friends try to evade in their jumped by Hyena, obviously very angry he he immediately takes off after her triggering trap after trap after trap, and he just gets even more angry. and. He's just like you see him scattered around the corner like a cat young. My cat doesn't all the time. He must be at like the youngest of a group Oh. He's got to be a teenager. Gargoyles very much seems like it really does. Yes, he's the smallest, but even besides that like his mannerisms and his personality are very young, is very trusting very happy. Go lucky until he's pissed, he's. And he's got that teenage anger. THAT TEENAGE RAGE! At those hormones, he's almost impaled by wall spikes. He's angry. He does not give a fuck thought they fought with. Yeah and then he's only just ripping them off. The Wall S so you see me, but I'm ripping them off the why it's very dramatic. It is and glider. She kind of just like behind like with fuckers. Opening Goliath does not take leading assist. He's like all right little buddy. Your Age will do this for him. But, he's obviously there for support and following along like well. This is obviously a trap in bad and they get caught up in one of those rooms with the the star wars tragedy. and. Fox's up in the rafters taunting them. Normally. This is not going to kill you, but we tweaked it, so you're GONNA die. Let's see what happens and Goliath. Fuck this and punches a hole through the wall. That's pretty bad ass and then. Rips it open a steel wall still yeah, it's not like plaster or anything. He fucking just destroys as metal wall, and they wreck this fucking studio man. It's great. They escaped to the rooftop after having destroyed the entire room and it's like yeah, fuck, you, guys. We wreck shit and we're out of here piece. You know at this point. Goliath is like okay. I need to take charge here. He's the leader that he is the leader and the you know like the dad like figure, and he's like all right little buddy. Let's go and kinda grabs Lexington, and luckily ten is still just all up. His feels like I'm fine I'm fine. They can do it on my own. I could do nobody he really does. Have that reaction you go all right, and then they fly off the fight off to a nearby rooftop in Lexington. The word I use is incredulous. He can't even understand how he was betrayed by strangers in costumes. Was? How could they do that to I? Really like I think hurting Lexington. Feelings probably pisses me off more than like hurting anyone else's feelings like he's a sweet little angel boy. You don't do that to him. Jerks Lexington says never trusting anyone again, and I've got to be honest. That's the way to go. Yeah, everyone is shady and out to get you. Yeah, even your dearest friends. Your closest loved ones. Listeners don't trust anyone. Okay well I'm going to. I'm going to interrupt that and say you can trust me for him as a gargoyles. Yes, perhaps he should not just trust anybody saying humans, dogs, monkeys. None of us should be trusted anyone all right. You're jaded. Suddenly Explosion Liz very dramatic this episode. I'm trying to lean into it. The duo are attacked again because he's fucking packed. motherfuckers just can't get enough right like Ooh like you can tell. Wolf is into this. He's like. Yes, this is the chase I've been wanting. Yeah, he's rock-hard. This whole restaurants episodes. It's unsettled. Why did they draw that Liz? Why did they draw that in? Your gross. One of dingoes flying a giant saw exploding razzamatazz blows up and goliaths face, and this sets up a very extended, chasing the basically last the rest of the episodes. Yes, Dingo LASSOS Goliath with the stupid metal rope thing meals. He uses his PECs to just pop it like nothing man. Jackal cut some electrical wires, and they catch our heroes. Mid Air is they're trying to escape, and they're electrocuted and they fall to the ground, and then they'd climbing the side of a building. They're trying to escape, and they get to the top of this skyscraper, and then in the distance. We are GONNA. She's cackling like a crazy person. What's up with that? Because fucking explosion goes off seconds later and blows Goliath and Lexington down of ground. POOR BABIES, so they're laying there knocked out unconscious and. Yeah the pack swarms. That's what packs to. This pack of hunting Alpha hunters swarm like bees. was, beginning to think that these guys are just insane, these guys are psychopaths are definitely psychopath Liz. I hope that our heroes aren't dead shows over episodes sex no more than the other seventy two episodes, or whatever it just. Broadway in Brooklyn Grieving I never get over the death of Goliath and Lexington and Dream Boat. Is You get some cats say the grief of losing her goliath powers her to the super strong bad ass. Like deadpool pool kind of like. The punisher what is like he goes after people anti hero. I guess anyway I was going good places in the IT fizzled. Liz instead of all. That I'm going to third a commercial. Listeners into Alpha Male, bad ass, leading ladies, and happily ever after then checkout another great calamity cast podcast the week where I chat with my other two co host everything we love in sometimes hate about both writing and reading romance novels, so grab a glass of wine. Get comfortable, and let's get down and dirty about romance. Find it on calamity, DOT, com, or wherever you find your podcast. Reno where we left off in the streets and the gargoyles are still unconscious, and the pack is just. About to make their next move, but lo and behold there attacked by children. The most foul enemy magical kids wanting autographs. No don't. Like and they're all excited, you can tell that they're trying to like we do south like Oh he needs are adoring fans, and they're all circle circle. Try to block out the past out gargoyles behind them, and we don't touch. Don't touch. Don't touch and the parents are like. Don't take whatever you do, your thing, little kids and go off and talk to some strangers. That's what got Lexington trouble. Right Anyway, so the gargoyles start waking up and the kids are like. Back to their parents, and the parents are like the dad's like. Oh, I think this is just like A. Promotional stunt and MOM's like I don't thinks so. Yeah, the DAD's like Oh. Let's just let's watch watch. What's happening look at these giant dinosaur men with wings. It's probably for. What so you know? They play it up and. are trying to be like. Yes, we're the packer. The heroes were protecting you from these evil creatures. These beasts were sent by the evil menges to eat children and seduce wives will save you, and of course I get to look like the good ones and the children are like. Yeah, yeah, they're bad and start throwing. Them start throwing trash from off. The street came also. Hey, parents quit letting your kids play in the trash, right? What is happening Oh my God? Why is no one calling the police? I don't know there's a brawl with monsters, literal actual monsters in the street and no one is calling the authorities I'm sorry Gargoyles I'm sorry I don't mean it, but I'm sure that's what people think anyway. Goliath able to rip open a fire hydrant, and just blast Lamont water, and that distracts them enough that they're able to escape Yep. They never just run very far. They just run and then pause. It's really bizarre. Okay, so they get to the rooftop, and then the Pacos after them they have ropes and grappling hooks that were stored somewhere. Yeah, of course, they don't have cool bandoliers with pouches they don't. have any packs on their back now. They have no backpacks that. I have to assume that they have been there wearing the rope like. They just had it wrapped around inside their pants I. Don't know you know what it's getting away from me. The packets to the rooftop. and. It is just covered in stone gargoyles. In Fox calls it a needle in Haystack Liz. No it is not there looking for the only two living breathing made of flesh gargoyles on that roof. It is like looking for a needle in a very small pile of toothpicks, where one is made out at a very different material than the other, and there's only like two dozen. Yeah, I was upset they will they look directly Alkali, and like because he's in the shadow. He looks like stone like that makes them zero sense. I agree I, guess our Gargoyles don't have to breathe right. Donald, wisdom, the Gargoyles don't run. They just hide. They hide in the packet on the hunt after them. This turns pretty much into a horror film as Lexington and Goliath pick them off one by one. Yeah, it's like watching aliens. Hyenas picked off I. Never makes a sound. None of the other pack members are alerted to hyenas absence because she doesn't screen. No, she's like. Okay, this is my life now. going. And then Dingo. and. Then Jackal does makes a run for it. He's like actually this is not worth it. I don't even like to hunt. I'm a vegetarian. This was in my contract so I feel like he's the only one that maybe actually just an active. K We need you. 'cause he's like no fuck. Not Actually worth it is it very far before goliath grabs him snatches him up, and as Fox and wolf flee the scene they to grab Goliath. Who using their fleshy Bonefield, human bodies, collapses a whole into the roof of a building, causing the three of them to fall into a late night. Sexy lady photo shoot. That's going on below. What the fuck did it have to be Liz did that have to be how this went down. No, it's needlessly Grossen weird like especially like you know, find a modeling thing, but like maybe do that during the daytime yeah. This looks like low budget porn. Shit about to go down, yeah! A guy trick some barely of age college students down to a late night. Quote Unquote Photo Sash Yes. So you know there's damage from the building from them. Falling Down and everything nearly kills the nearly naked models yearly exactly and Fox decides to put a gun to the head of one of the models using them as a hostage and they escape because Goliath is like well fuck I. Don't need another person to get hurt, so they make their escape. To not just attack, you know it was good of glad to be like okay. Innocent bystander. Play it cool. He's a good guy like that well, it just seems like he's only got experience fighting a thousand years ago where things were very different. Back then would have been okay to be like. Fuck it just killing, yeah, or like. He's not super familiar with guns yet. He's got a couple of experiences, but he doesn't know that a bullet to the brain kill. Yeah Fair. He does the right thing. There's a lot of assuming and implying by the show as to Goliath knows the right thing to do. Diving for Fox or something like that that makes sense. Yeah, so the pack makes it outside, and Lexington swoops down and grabs Fox by the and crushes it, and just putting in Jello because he is sick of her shit. He thought they were in love red show where he you watching better one in my head. A much more violent one we're vengeance comes. Is justly deserved, and in Lexington he he he. I'm running out of steam. What happened what happened? Tells what really happened well, Fox didn't die, but she did. Get knocked unconscious. It seems yeah, and Wolf makes a move against Lexington. He grabs LEX and he just throw them aside like a rag doll. Figure, even the smallest gargoyles ways like several hundred pounds. You would think but like in every fight that occurs. There's a human that just tosses Lexington aside like he's nothing does their density and mass change when they turn to stone? Science. We need a science gargoyles we'll. We'll get a scientologist on this show. That's what they're called, right? That's a different thing, but yeah wolf is like no Nah. That's not challenging for me. I want to go after the big boy. Everyone wants to know what Senator Goliaths link. LAWF- even walls well Yeah Da! That is some. Wolf on guard. Khalil Action I would probably watch. Yeah, he would watch that. You would watch the after hours version of this. This is what happens next. Well Goliath is just fucking over it right like he just like we were tricked in this, I knew this was a bad idea. This entire time I told Lexington I told him. So Wolf doesn't actually stand a chance on hand to hand combat because he's fucking goal lie, he wishes he was fucking God. Wolf tries the punch at him, and he grabs his fist just squeezes. Does that bad asthma? Out glass catches the punch in mid air and then throws him like twenty feet. Oh, he just launches this big dude. Wolf hits the ground. His neck is broken. Right all of the WOLFPACK is dead. The gargoyles are triumphant, and they need to piece the fuck out. Because now the police are coming, but Goliath you know. He trust the cops pretty much because of Dream Boat, so he's like. Yeah, okay, we gotta go and in theory the police will take care of this whole mess and make sure justices served. Someone will deal with all of these corpses. We left to cross the city is. Liz We're going back to the castle. Lexington feels justifiable is stupid. Yeah, but Goliath ever. The daddy has some fatherly words for him. Let me hear my daddy okay. I feel like a fool leading the pack. Talk me into luring you there because of who we are. We have to be cautious about trusting strangers. I was so totally wrong no Lexington. You were right. We can't hide from the world. We must live in it. We must sit allies. KINDRED SPIRITS! And, sometimes you must take chances like we did tonight. To do otherwise. Used to remain forever alone. It's nice to know. There are still some heroes left. Glass I hate to break it to, but the reality is. Humans are going to be forever terrified of nine foot, dragging man. Everyone but dream, boat and Liz. Do not trust these humans. They all want to either fuck or kill you or fuck, then kill you. Anyway the other swoop down to let it be known that the pack somehow survived all of those violent beat downs and have been arrested. Yeah, the totally not a creep in pornographer photographer from the totally not a porn shoot had pictures of Fox kidnapping the model. Yeah, okay, don't ever do your crimes on film. You Idiot, so this is the nineties. You don't have just instant photos. Did he go find a walgreens with a one hour photo and was like here. Quick any of these. Can they be under our? Please lose on. Ask You a question. Yeah, do you think this man that was clearly taking pictures of barely legal girls doesn't develop his own photographs. To his darkroom. His darkroom stuff. He developed the porno once I but. Yes. That's the end of that scene where gross. Let's finish your up. We got one more to go. So the episode ends with Owen Visiting Deluxe in prison. It's revealed that had been Oh, shut up by deluxe which Daniel had assumed from the get-go had a feeling. Yeah should have seen it. I should I mean when when he got the photos. Who else would have get like obviously Santos? Yeah, but he says that the TV only showing the show. The pack was part of the plan. Yeah, I, mean the mysterious delivery. The photos sure, but how did he make it so that every channel? Showed one television show all night long you know and movies like prevent data and Shit like that when they take over all the TV's to make an announcement. How do they do that? It's the same shit right, didn't he? Break into a television studio or something like that and that moving? Yeah, but only be one of like. He gets transported all the channel. Oh, so you're saying this is a work of fiction and I should just let it go. I mean Santos has all the technology right? He has all of the Technology Shirley. He can hack something from prison. Sure I know this is supposed to show how smart in conniving deluxe is but the events that played out so incredibly random that realistically there's no way he could have foreseen how this all went down. I don't think he really cared how it went down I. Think he just wanted to cause more trouble for the gargoyles right like he wanted to see? Okay, my robots didn't work. What else could we do? I don't know why he thought these random humans would be stronger and more capable than, but they're not random by. He says that he put the pack together. says. He set all of this up. It went exactly as he had planned. How was the plan for the PACK TO BE ARRESTED I? Don't know if that would like I. think that's what I'm saying. Yeah Him, suggesting that this is all according to plan makes no sense. How did he know that Wolf was going to get unsatisfied with his life and need change. How did he know that Lexington was going to go and meet the pack? How did he know that only Lexington would have gone down? How did he know that? Goliath would have agreed to whatever terms Lexington came up with. You know what I'm hearing. Is that even is actually God? Oh. We're GONNA CUT COMMERCIAL VIP. Long. After tragedy strikes Lusa nicer to come back for the funeral like indeed unites. What up man to celebrate the life of a friend take? Until some thing happens. Now, they're struggling to survive in a world. They don't understand. overmanned. Estate? Failed through time and space epic podcasts from the calamity cast network I dropping. Some strike to a beginner's guide to interplanetary destruction. That's what I'm calling my opinion as of eight seconds ago. Everyone we are back. We have finished episodes six of Gargoyles. This children's animated program is off the rails absurd. Liz What did you think of this episode? I liked it, but it was very different than the first five. Oh yeah and it was a very interesting choice i. feel like for them to make for the first episode. That wasn't part like the movie thing. I don't know what it really did for the series other than showing this that. David is in jail and David still has power despite being in jail. Yeah, that much is obvious. That's what the whole twenty two minutes is for. The premise the setup is so absurd. Yeah! I like the action. Yeah, but how we got to it any so little. Yeah, and I think I was so held up on like what the fuck is the pack time like they just humans are. They utensils some sort, do they? Powers are like are like what the fuck are. They think they're actual mercenaries like a mercenary squad. Because somewhere in the beginning when we first meet the pack, it was Dingo. That says something about being in a Central American war, zone or something. Yup! I think there are guns for hire. Okay and I think we're GONNA see more of that going forward. Because this with the packer with so they'll be kind of recurring fast is because their designs or too cool for one episode way like they've definitely got thrown activist. I bet if we went on Ebay. We could find. You can have a wolf got how come the other gargoyles never come looking for Lexington Goliath. TV to launch, they were watching the pack. Missing Out I. Don't know where they went. I mean I guess they know where they went to thing. They know where they went and then eight hours later they show up and we do this crazy fight and they're like. Oh well. We ordered a pizza and watch the movie. They knew they were going to go. Meet the PAT. Why would they assume they're doing anything other than hanging out with the pack? Right? Like why would they do? That's a long time to be away. For Lexi away the first time and they were just like. That's true, too. Yeah. I don't think they had a concept of time in the show. Also they don't seem to be worried about the safety of their brothers in this new world that they live in. That's not okay. Liz this Fox just have a tattoo of a Fox over the right side of her face. It never registered to me throughout the entire episode until the end that she's got. A Gray Fox over her I. Missed that. Maybe, she just is like very into her character. She knows how to brand. She's like I. Am Fox was. Would you ever get matching? Tattoos with me. Or you don't have any tattoos yet. Would that be your first? How not may I once I start? Having made one bad choice. Are you saying that tattoos are always bad choices? Sometimes, they're bad choices list. It's the end of the episode we did it. I non awakening episodes though. I'm really interested to see how this moves forward. Here I know that there's magic shit that comes in later on I hope it doesn't take a long time to get here because I know that there's like athlon. There's the tie in two or three and legend I wanNA. Get into powerbase even to don't you think, don't you? Think would have like one node bummed me out like that. Oh I know xanthos gets gargoyles. Mix Suit so let's get into that she. Yes, I do want that and I'm ready for Brooklyn to have his motorcycle. Yeah, we know for sure it happens at least. Yes fine lines fine aspirations. In the meantime, thank you for listening to get another episode of to resolve the night. Thanks go out to Ian McGowan composing are catchy interstitial tunes. Check him out on Instagram and twitter at easy underscore breezy, underscore Mac and check out his band at good deeds. Music Dot Band Camp Dot Com if you WanNa, Talk Gargoyles or your preferred pack minds the Mongoose. Use the Hashtag gargoyles twitter where we're at calamity cast at. 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Episode 108: And Dont Forget the Horse

Defenders Of The Night

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Episode 108: And Dont Forget the Horse

"Don't. We are two vendors the night. The most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favorite mid-nineties animated program a Gargoyles. I am your host, Liz, circle, and I. Also your host and my name is Daniel Williams. Liz today for covering gargoyles season, one episode eight deadly for. This right off the bat, forego any farther. Episode Man. Yeah. This is ninety s TV. Straight up after school special public service announcement bullshit. This episode aired November Eighteenth Nineteen ninety-four. It was directed by the same pairs last week, so I'm not going to say their names. Sephora Hashimoto in Zuo Terada and it was written by our Powell Michael Reaves. Yes, now before we get into this week's episode, listen. I just want to say hey. We love all you. We d we love you dearly, and that's unconditional. Yes, but if you wouldn't mind heading into your preferred pod catcher and throwing defenders of the night, a nice little five star rating, and maybe even review. We know for sure that you loved us to. Boil, let's do it. Yes, we start off at the New York City. Docks Owen is overseeing the delivery of some very fancy coffins at the nearest city docks. When suddenly there's an attack. Fuck. This guy, no matter what's happening. What appears to be young Danza again? Company shoot some smoke grenades Russian with gas masks in make off with a truckload of Zanna toes branded coffins. I think their coffins I. Don't think there. Is a failure. How is DELUXE GOING TO BREAK INTO THE DRACULA MARKET? Now? He had these branded. He was going to sell into the local Dracula's now what the folks are going to do! Oh in. Pires in this universe, I mean there are gargoyles. There may be say for certain. We are only eight episodes in was yes, that was that scene. Yeah, it was really quick. It was a big Gut Punch at the beginning. They were attacked by Glenn Danzon. Who? Himself there you go, he does. He looks very pale and dark hair, and in that the guy that Owen is talking on the docks seems like your word for no reason which obviously is Q. for Shit about. Go down exactly. Yeah I! Mean whoops spoke too soon out anyway, then we're back to the castle castle. Vern where it's time to wakey-wakey. Gargoyles they all wake up and before anything can happen. Broadway just pieces the fuck out. Yeah, G, to G. Yeah, do you think that you'll ever get tired of watching the gargoyles wake up. They do it in every episode at least once. I, like it. You would give me. Goliath to the big chest stretch. Okay, yeah! Yeah. So as you mentioned Broadway leaves. You think this is his episode to go out and trust some humans now I said last episode next up is Broadway. It's his turn for an adventure. Very there's definitely a pattern. Did you see Lexington? Look over and get the fuck you going look like? I didn't see that, but that's hilarious. Stink intense like you know what happened. Last time I went off on my own dude. We've all done this. It goes poorly. My thought was he was going to go hunt down some breakfast. Yeah, or dinner or whatever you call it dinner, but it's their first meal of the day and that's breakfast yeah. Alright so both wrong because it turns out. He's going to see his new favorite movie which has seen multiple times already, yeah. You'd have to be a real nerd to see movie multiple times in the same week, right? Definitely done. That was never. What movie have you done that for? Didn't see vendors in game three times in one we. Haven't done it really in my adult life, but in high school. What do you try? Your cooler than me. Wait and here's what I saw. I think ten times titanic. No, I saw parts of the Caribbean like ten or eleven times in the first one. Yeah, that shit slaps. Yeah, it was fucking good. That's still good anyway. So he went to see his movie showdown, which is a cowboy movie and he leaves, and this dude can't even catch break. He's not even around when they roast him glances. Must have been important. He didn't even have dinner I. Fuck that motherfucker. Goliath like he's getting Sassy here. I feel like it's a show goes on. Maybe he is going to go and at the theater. He's going to eat a one and a half pound very impressive with cheese and mustard for dipping i. could tell go with a pretzel cheese now. Oh my God and our preferred movie theater. My daughter insists on getting the monster beverage I. don't even know what it's called. It's huge. I've never done that as a pound and a half amazing and he comes in a pizza box. That's hilarious anyway. Well, okay, so then that leads us to the police headquarters and drought is talking to her commander, which is another woman? You Captain Lady Awesome Progressive Dream about is wanting to get a warrant for Drake on. Who is that bad guy that we saw the vampire looking dude who stole the coffee? and. She is like you know it's him so I mean it sounds like this guy has a reputation like he's a ski. Dude, who does under the table shit all the time, but they can't ever get him. There's no evidence. To support it in hunch isn't gonNA. Get you a fucking war, and you can't just go off all half-cocked dream, boat or cops. We gotta play by the rules at Jimbo. Don't work that way. She's like come on Captain Pantsuit. I. Got a gut feeling. Is this guy? Part of the Mafia is I? Think so I think they're dealing illegal arms. Like I assume that's a mafia, thing and illegal legs. To got some illegal legs. Drinking Tequila. Just in Tundla everyone know what was in the coffins. Apparently, IT WAS NOT DRACULA's. Let's have a listen. They're the latest design. Hi, Column Charged Particle. Beam technology the lasers, just framing the particle beam, itself is invisible. How many of these guns were stolen? Three hundred twenty two various sizes, styles and Power Rangers. Laser! If like the more we learn about Santos, the more he is, the evil Tony Stark. Where I would disagree with you on that, Tony Stark would have built three hundred twenty two laser guns. Yeah, Xanada Tos had someone else do it or bought them. You know like Tony Stark would have built those by hand or built the first one, and then built a factory to build the other his guns right because I mean the boxes Santos on them Liz. Santos Brandon coffins. Shipped Laser pistols in them. God. Board. Three hundred twenty two laser blasters stolen. Everybody's acting really com. Yeah, chill is funny. It's fucking lasers, not even lasers. He said the laser is used to aim. Yeah, I think a plasma beams right which I feel like is a worse the laser. I don't know I'm not a scientist. I'm not even a scientologist. And Dream Boat from there. It's just like full. None of you are going to do your job. I'm going to do my job and she runs out of there to go detective. That's fine, says Captain Pantsuit, but you step outside the lines, and I'll have your badge and just need a good cop drama. Show here. This is what the show has been missing. Missing I, feel like you know I actually like this a lot. That aspect of it I didn't like what comes later. No, the rest of it's whatever I don't like. The after school special aspect. This episode me neither handed out there right now. Let's go to the movies. We're at the movie theater now, which looks like a really fucking Nice movie theater like? We traveled back in time like there's a curtain pulls back. There's a fancy balcony that I guess nobody sits in because God damn. Gargoyles broke through a hole in the ceiling, and it's just hanging out there. He landed in a pile of popcorn. How do they figure out that they could get into the movie theater? How did they figure out that this was a movie theater? Yeah, how did they know movie theater was? Liz, so many questions. I'll relate to fucking movie theater, Broadway, Robson. He falls into. A pile of popcorn bags which what? The Old Stale Popcorn Jessica will just put it. Their bags of popcorn cracked open. He ripped on opening. Toronto, this is a movie theater, they have bags of popcorn kernels that you pop right. What is this I? Don't get it. This particular movie theater also doesn't show previews. Straight into the movie. He did the comedies a few? Times. Maybe he missed all the previews. You're right. Maybe that moves us to another location. A business building question mark I don't know yeah, because it's just a lot of people in suits milling around it looks like the grand staircase in a hotel or lake, the train station or something like something fancy that we don't have any Saint Louis coming off of his business train. Yeah, we are speaking of course of Drake on this episode Dracula. I don't understand why we didn't break these scenes up differently. We went to the movie theater. We were there for like thirty seconds. Then we're at the business place, and then we go back to the movie theater I. saw the bouncing around sometimes works, and sometimes I feel like builds the drama, but in this case was like cool. It's a movie. About, cowboys we saw him eat some popcorn, and then went away from that and you're like fine I. Don't need to, we're. We're going back. Okay? Sure to see some of the movie that he's watching. Okay so Tony Drake on this episodes. Villain is voiced by Richard motherfucking. Greco who's that rigid? GEICO is best known for his portrayal as officer. Dennis, booker, on twenty-one gme jump street og the TV show. Yes, have never seen that I would really like to actually. Young Johnny Depp Right? It does have a young Johnny Depp which I mean. He's a shithole human now, but he is Captain Goddamn Jack Sparrow and now mind your tongue. Apparently, this is just this is talk. I was telling my lovely spouse. Richard Greco was in this, and she was like Oh from some movie I'd never heard of and I was like no from twenty one jump street. She's like Oh. He was in that I'm like come on. Did she watched that? Show back in the day gas now, but she. She threw out. With I've only seen the movie I, do like the movie. Though he's in the movie, he plays the same character. That's awesome. It is okay. Kalani I didn't never saw the movie, but I did read that on his IMDB page. That's neat, so drake con is just doing his swarming business mafia thing. He doesn't have time for Dream Boat. He's got business and. And he's all you know. You got nothing on me, sweetheart. Yeah, he definitely like sweetheart, sugar sugar, and a couple of other terms of endearment that were not endearing, and definitely as belittling her, and just like you got nothing on me, but if someone had done this thing, wink, wink, you'd never get anything on them. You can't catch that person because I'M A. person is way too smart Becton. The movie Anna Dream boats apartment instead just nothing happened. No, that's what we see a scene of. We see all the important thing to note here though is, there's a shoot off typically they're called shootout, but go on. There's a shootout and you could tell that Broadway is super into it I could tell guns Buhner's so Broadway leaves the movie theater. He's going home by by, but he's not You do see him in the Air Pupil, his handguns as he's gliding to apparently dream votes apartment. Yeah! I didn't realize that any of them new where she lives. Yeah, no, that was definitely never talked about before. Before more than anything I'm glad that these two plotlines are converging because I felt like they were really disparate. You know yeah, they weren't connected. They weren't feeling one show. That's very true and the way that he just plopped in there, and she didn't seem surprised at all. And you know she's cooking dinner and look. Let me throw in a couple more stakes for you buddy. He's like. It seemed like this was not a first time thing. It seemed like he POPs in their decently often. Hey, you like when your friends a show up unannounced. Ever really happened to me quite honestly, but I think. I would not mind nearly as much as you would just unannounced. This stage if I'm home I probably likelihood of Bobby and on is Zilch a pants is questionable just. Are you wearing clothes? Yes Clothes but like okay pants are happening, but they're probably like these weird Pajama Pants. I own that look like fakes jeans. Pajama. burlap sack. Cut to halls on a stick one leg. I'm just saying like I'm not ready for the public if I'm home. So it's like okay. It was a big hand gesture audience couldn't. Sounds like you know. Maybe they'll just pop by. Louis could just be hanging around entirely nude for all. We know like what is happening. No, that'd be weird. I have swayed couches. I think that'd be really uncomfortable. Deer? Anyway was so as you mentioned. She is cooking some extra stakes for Broadway. And then he settles it, and he gets comfy like you said he's clearly been there a bunch, and then he immediately goes for Dream Boat Service weapon. WHAT THE FUCK DUDE! He thinks it's a toy is supposed to be a child. We've talked about that Lexington seems younger than the others, but there are times that Broadway seems not as developed as like I. I want to know what their ages are supposed to be like compared to Goliath because they all seemed so immature, naive compared to him, absolutely no, he's the leader, so like. Of course he's going to be a little bit more I don't know. They seem like they're like eight year olds and he's The dad, but he is an ancient warrior. He understands the concept of deadly weapons right did they have guns back in ninety four Scotland? No, but like if he just watched a movie about Robin Hood, what are you start firing off fucking arrows in the middle of her living room. This is absurd. Yeah, and so. He grabs her gun. Yeah, we're dancing around the point here. He's waving it around and aiming at things I honestly like yoked when I was watching because. I've shot guns before i. don't own guns. I have no need for that, but I have grown to like shooting ranges, and I've shot before, and it's like I was very much always taught first off. Obviously, don't aim at anybody, but like pretend. There's a laser at the end of your. No matter where you're pointing at it could go off had not aimed at people or things, or whatever I've always heard the never point a gun at anything. You don't intend to kill exactly, and he is just doing that whole like little kid cowboy game where they're just like aiming a gun at things. And then he turns to right where dream boat is cooking in my heart just. He's on her. Remote and he is out of the gang. We will never forgive Oh God and so he goes off and he he thinks he broke something, and he's very apologetic, and he's like oh my gosh. I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm so sorry, and then he looks over to where she had been at the stove, and she's not there, and then we see her crumpled on the floor. Boy Liz, this is all very devastating I hate it and I think that we should just take a minute to process kith. Please will be right back. In Modern Day Bristol someone is copying one of the most infamous serial killers of all time. Jack The ripper only this time. The story is different. A woman survives and decides to get her revenge by taking the law into her own hands, but in so doing, she awakens darkness deep insider. If you like suspense thrillers, Man Serial, killers tune into Jane the ripper and audio drama. COMING TO CALAMITY CAST DOT COM. Halloween Twenty nineteen. So. GIGGLING YOU GONNA. Bring back all right. Guys Listen Up. It's very traumatic. Alright so we're back. We're said we understand like I am very upset with our dear friend Broadway. It's weird that she just passed out right. Yeah, she's just sleeping. Yeah, she had a late night. She was cooking and just got so tired that she passed out right there in the kitchen. Do you think he turned the stove off I? Oh my God. Apartments burnt down. She comes home to shell. Christ you just made one hundred times worse. She can't win. So. Broadway obviously feels bad and he scooped her up and flies off. And we see him do what we've seen. Junkies in movies do for you know time immemorial, and he drops nearly dead, unconscious person off at the door of a hospital and takes off, so he doesn't get in trouble. Especially, so he doesn't insurable I think it's more, he's a fucking Gargoyles, and they can't see him. I mean they've been showing their faces quite a bit. Yeah, but you're right. That's probably not why, but it's just something that we see a lot in fiction. And then he freaks out, though because he's blood on his hands. She wasn't bleeding. They can't show that. His hands. It's very odd yeah. It's jam. Has a nice little sticky snack. Yeah! He stopped to get Dona while he was flying to the hospital any jam on his hands. Luckily to paramedics have to be coming out right at the moment, so they see this nearly dead police officer just lying on a Gurney. There, it's all very left there fucking ambulance open like seemed very unprofessional. They actually they stole this ambulance. It's not their salary writing and they're like you know what let's go see what we can We can get up to the hospital I. Know Yeah. The show is good, sometimes these little things. That I kind of fix it on I find to be agreed. You know and I know we're talking about a cartoon for children. We say it every week, but still it seems too easy. Yeah, they set it up sometimes now, so then we cut away from there and end up back at the castle. It's time for Gargoyles to go. Ninety nine, which I guess is day day. wakey-wakey wake sleepy. You know what Owen comes out to tell Goliath that he's got some pretty bad news. Yeah, what is it? Speed quickly. Your friend Lisa. Maza has been shot and not sure she'll. Think, so, but also. How did I know I mean that was my next question after we got through the sleep thing because let's say that right now is five thirty a m I mean he didn't just get up. No, he looks like he's been doing his thing. He's in his suit. He's all quaffed exactly I. THINK HE IS DRACULA. Oh, I would make sense. He's about to go to sleep do. You ask. How did you find out? Where did he get this information? Do they have dream boats apartment bud because they know that she works with the Gargoyles. Yes, that's exactly what happened anyway was we're going to the woods just early morning? Laser blaster target practice I guess. When they do cuts like this. It's hard to tell the time of day like we just saw the sun. Come up, and then we go to the scene in the woods like. To go out for early morning target practice much later in the day. We don't know they're talking about dream. Boat being shot like. How did they find out that the news immediately announced the fact team and there wasn't like things, twitter or anything back then the news. The News Wasn't the way that we're used to it now. Where things get announced immediately like think about it like this. How could that have been news? The hospital wouldn't have gone out and said Hey. This detectives been shot I. Don't know it's all very weird. It is very weird. I didn't like it. Does, that was. It doesn't quite make sense. Landry says he shouldn't leave guns out like she didn't know. HAVE THE GUN laying out? How did he know it was because of an unattended firearm? Yeah, because they knew pretty quickly that it was her gun. They knew that it was her bay sounded like they knew that it was an accidental. Was could could've just happened in the line of duty right and that is the thing that makes most sense unless you have insider information right, so do the bad guys have her apartment bug to? Put it past him. Is Her apartment mostly listening devices from various rivals and they're like fuck. She doesn't have any decorations. How do we hide the where? Does Zana tried to put a camera into the picture frame, but there was already one there, and he's like this one of ours and owens like no I. Don't know where that came from, and he's like Oh shit have taken. They can not put mine elsewhere. It's fair, is I really liked how drake on character design involves brow. I feel like it's very brave couldn't tell is. Okay I think because he had very defined eyebrows in like the little bit like Oh. That's that's a little bit of a unit. Brother can't tell if he just had a really deep forehead furrow. What does he have to furrow his brow for? You know he's seems pretty carefree. Yeah, he's like look at me and my cool suits and my money and my illegal actions I have a question very important question about the guns. Yes, okay. Yes, they're shooting it things out in the woods, okay? Why does a bright red beam fire out of Drake? Cons Gun. As Owen said earlier, these weapons shoot invisible plasma beams the laser as opposed to just be for aiming. Yes, but this is like the red beam only comes out, and we see it from gun to target. It's like a a big red stream of P. It's not the aiming laser. You think it's You've seen like a laser pointer like. BOOP! Dot episodes source and you don't really see like a thick tree trunk of a Bima. Tell me more don't see that. Go. From the gun. To the target right? You don't see that. Are you shooting? See Bad. Never has a laser beam sexual? No doubt I mean. Why are you laughing at nothing? Daniel was. Gesturing wildly I was just helping to visualize for your benefit here. What should and should not be in my opinion seen? For this particular weapon, no, you're right, and it makes no sense. But how do you show just threat dot? That's unexciting I. Find like the Pew Than Star Wars but in that case don't go on about how the beam invisible agreeing I agree it's all dumb. They're all laughing more as they're shooting their weapons or a laughing about the death of a police officer. It's hilarious and they blow up some more well placed boulders and just destroying wildlife. And, here's where we learn about the illegal sale of these illegally obtained feature weapons. It's going down tonight. Yes, I hope for the sake of the audience that drake on is flown up into the sky and dropped into bloody pancake because he's such a Dick. This makes it sound like he injuring built have lot of previous run, INS, because we don't see that. It sounds like he's just being an asshole about someone. He does never met before and his only run into briefly. Once right seems a bit much based on just how she's reacting towards him and how he's reaction towards her. It sounds like she's been chasing for a long time. Yeah, that's true. That's. That's a fair point see that's what I wanNA know I. WanNa see those things. Yeah me too. I liked the COP drama parts of this episode. Meet Him. There's a lot of the details that I thought were bad, but I did like that. Where do we go from here? We go to the hospital to see that. Dream Boat is actually she's hanging in there. Yeah, and then go to Owens office. Yeah. It's more important than we go and see how he's doing. He's doing well on these trying times. So the Pogo is the kicking the Goddamn door. They WANNA get the low down on what the fuck happened is now. He threw a bomb at them right as they were turned to stone, and now they need and focus and Owen. I on time I got to be somewhere. And this is when it hit me owens. The buyer I didn't get that until like. Oh, he is the. He's like I have places to be. It was just the placement of this with the previous scene like. We gotta sell these tonight. Cut to Owen being like I. have somewhere to be a little bit later. Now. That should have been obvious. Hey, you know what don't your own pace. Thank you I appreciate. It blows them off. And this is in Brooklyn Voices, concern for Broadway who is still not come home. He's disappeared. Goliath is like okay. Here's what we're going to do I'm going to go visit dream. Boat Lexington in. Go Find Broadway Hudson I need you to do something very important for me. Go sit down turn on the television. Stay the fuck out of trouble. I mean guard the castle like him and a Bronx gained a stay behind yet again. Do you think Hudson minds though he's like I, got it I am old crank? Who isn't taken seriously fine by me. He I think he owns it. He's like I will lean into those. Lifted my legs up on the lazy boy. I got you boys episode nine? He's wearing sweatpants. He is GRANDPA. He's drinking a very large tea which he knows not just ice. Do you think there's a little bit of? Was Jeremiah Weed. What's it called? So the next seat is really sad. You just see Broadway as weep it on the hospital roof. No, I don't think so I. Don't think it's the hospital. No, because glass shows up at the hospital. You think they would've noticed each other. Maybe, but he seems to be hiding in. I don't know he doesn't even know if she's alive or dead. That's Gerald. He's just hiding ashamed you yeah. So from Broadway, weeping, we go to the hospital, or we continue to be at the hospital. Depending on, you know you talk to who you talk to and Goliath is peaking in on a totally live, but fully unconsciously about yes, her parents come in to speak with the doctor and this single bullet. She was shot one time. Rex remotes insides listen to the doctor explained her internal damage intense. The bullet hit high on a chest, ricocheted off the collarbone, nick, the heart muscle, and pass the right loan I removed from the base of her spine. Good news is, she survived a surgery. It's like she was a Goddamn pinball machine. We both just in. To the motion at her chest, the bullet just bouncing around headed everything and like hit her spine. John Pierce through her lung, took off a tow home and God. How did that happen Liz? Did you recognize her father Peter mazas voice? It sounded familiar, but I have no idea who that is didn't know no well in a weird turn of events. This is the scene ties defenders the night to my previous podcast. The Black Lodge complete department. Because what dream boats, dad is voiced by Michael Horse Aka Deputy Hawk from twin peaks. I know. Don't you care some? All listen. He was the one bright shining spot in that show that I hated so much I loved hawk. I loved him so much. When it twin peaks eighty, nine, nine, hundred zero, so so this after. Yeah, okay, interesting. We learned that Dream Boat had gone through ten hours of surgery, and she made it through the next. Twelve hours are going to be very crucial to see if she survives or not. The doctors are we can't. Can't tell you that she's going to be fine because we don't know when captain pantsuit comes in to speak to the family, this is the ultimate betrayal. Because Captain Pantsuit is not wearing a pantsuit. What skirt? This turn of events is the most shocking part of the entire episode I? Guess She's mostly in the office. Pants aren't necessary I mean. It's like you were saying earlier about how your mostly in your home. Office pants are necessary. True. Just got a towel over her lab most of the time. She's like. No no, please don't come on this side of my desk. Just sit. There are meeting doesn't need to include you coming to this side. No skirt is an odd choice. Though I feel like for someone in the police force especially, because later we see her like in a car chase situation. A foot chase, but still she's planning on seeing some action. She needs to be wearing pants of course scenes. Stop it know what if she needs to get into a foot chase. All of a sudden I've never worn a skirt. I can't imagine it thirty. Two run like those business suit type skirts pencil skirt. No I. Meant what I said I'm well informed Ari skirts. Business Skirt would not be ideal for running now. You need something more flowing. Yeah, he do. That's unlike I feel like you've seen probably have seen random movies or whatever into movies they're wearing a tight dress or skirt, and they end up like ripping part of it to give them more access to our watching different movies. We are the movies I see I can see in theaters. How about you? Hey, now what I mean? That's when you're in your Home Office. Anyway back to the actual episode. Captain Pantsuit. Let's the family know a bunch of circumstantial evidence. Right that suggest the perpetrator. was someone tied to Tony. Kahn Aka, Dracula, but we know the truth. A Elias does not know the truth, and he over hears all this through the closed window, one hundred fifty feet up in the air where he totally isn't trying to listen over the sound of wind or New York City traffic. Perfect here and we know that sure I mean evidence suggests, but it's never been explicitly stated it seems clunky anyway. He's got all the information he needs, so he goes after Tony Drake on here. He's going to finish. Would we started? Yep, he wants a revenge, yeah! And Collides knows all of the necessary facts like where Tony Drake on lives and what he looks like. What the fuck yeah, what the fuck. He takes off because. I was being facetious. The episode lets me know nobody. No, you're right on because he shows up right at Tony Drake on gigantic office house. I don't know he finds him. which is bizarre, so then we move onto central park away from Goliath Goliath is doing his glorious thing and you know he's GonNa save today, but we find that there's someone being robbed in the park because it's the ninety s and apparently, that's where all the crime happens. Yeah, this fucking nerd! NERD is walking through the park. Really nervous is like looking around looking over. His shoulder freaked out the park in the first play freaks. You out that much do like go round the park where the rest of the city is right. What are you doing? You know I'm GonNa cut through the park because it's quicker, so this guy shows up and he has one of the laser guns and Broadway because of what he has accidentally done is now one hundred percent anti-guns. I always run into the trees like a cat. Liked it. And, so he pounces on. He does like a cat on the bad guy in fucking destroy that gun. Do you think that the bag I will ever walk again? No Broadway who is the fattest gargoyles. Yes, crushes this guy, and then he crushes that gun in his hand, which okay if there's. Plasma Beams fucking their science Fisher like explode his hand like the one thing that actually would make sense to explode in this damn show that's. Damas, you're absolutely right. The one thing that should explode doesn't explode. And the gun was gone. He picks up the thug by his collar and he starts shouting, and it's very threatening. Let's have a listen to Broadway who has taken a new stance on firearms, yes. A, new kind of gun. Kill, people. It's kind of a weird question. What is this a new kind of gun like? He doesn't know does Broadway all of the types of guns like maybe it's not a new kind of gun. Question the the first off like guns are a new thing to the gargoyles right like we talked about this earlier. That's not something that they had when fighting the Viking. Yes, maybe all guns are a new kind of gun to this guy. Realistically Right Right would've thug was like. No, no, this is an old style of gun. You're a new style of mean Guy Dragon. Man, what is happening? Muggers called people that beat them. Mean guys at this is a silly level of Broadway sanctimoniousness. Yeah, this mugging of the mugger gets the audience, even more information or more of the same. I should say we keep getting the same information from different people. As what is each time we get a little bit more detail. Yeah, I'm not a fan of this way of informing the characters yeah I like anytime. The character learned something new the audiences also learning something new, but in this case the audience has heard this a couple times from different sources like somebody's selling guns at the docks. We know the glasses is selling guns now. We know that glasses of selling guns at the docks like. Get it anyway from there. We jump back to the hospital. Oh, God! I, don't know how many of you spent in the hospital. Hearing that flat line who don't like it Oh blue dream boat is going the grade. Fainting couch for I must faint. Commercial. In the year twenty one hundred years, cybernetics enhance population threatened to tear down everything. America held dear free speech, drive-thru, liquor, stores and guns so many guns. After much deliberation, it was decided that if America and superior values what to survive, the coming roebuck lives. There was only one option. Get the fuck up. The next hundred years, so the construction of Space Merica the galaxies newest and brightest star. If you value adventure, good times and Cyborg Fistfights, find your place in Space Merica. Space Merica no CYBORGS NITA by subscribed to space America on apple, podcast, Google podcast, stitcher, or checkout calamity cast dot com. Hello, everyone, we are back and dream. Boat isn't trouble here. Luckily Dr Glasses. Has This fucking needle the size of his forearm Liz? I sent you the picture and you watch the episode. Yes, I told you we're GONNA. Talk about the SYRINGE. Yes, I my nose! IS A. Huge? He's holding it with two hands. You ever seen a horse penis. I never mind. It's a very big. She. Why have you seen a horse pitas dude? If you've seen a male horse, they're just there. Okay. That's fair I. Don't have a bet on a horse low. It's been a while as our audience knows. I'm not around horses. You fucking hate. Anti. This thing was like a thigh. If she had been conscious in had seen that she, your body would go into shock. Okay Bye. I'm dead now. The needle was like a foot long. The syringe was like as big around as like a twenty eight ounce can of tomatoes like. Listen, it was very large. Horrifying I mean I'm not a medical professional. I can't imagine. Do they have anything that big do they use anything like that? Not on humans liquid the fuck. It was like a liter bottle of soda. Filled with epinephrine, and that was because I was getting her heart going again, right? It's for allergic reactions. Like. People have severe allergies. They carry with them all. An EPI pen. Don't think I ever knew. EPI epinephrine have an allergic reaction to death. I mean I would to who knows this death is killing me. Shocking, absolutely no one knows what epinephrine is supposed to do. It doesn't get her heart beating again. No, of course, not actually in fact I think it could have the opposite effect, and now if you have to use an Epi pen like you're supposed to go to the hospital, you're not done then. No Shit can happen because I, guess. Whatever. So he gets the paddles. Wish. First thing, right. No two leaders of epinephrine give me two million CC's ooh. I don't know how many CICI's two liter bottles, but that's a lot. CICI's is a two million. Yes, cool. Dry. But the pedals two panels work well. It's also weird. I feel like based on all the medically based television shows I've watched day. Typically try to do like the chest compressions first and then the paddles, but they got her stabilized. That's all that matters. Let's go to the next thing we're going in the mean. Streets of New York. City in this is the car. Car Chase that I spoke of earlier can pantsuit as tailing drake on through the city, but he is too smart for that Shit. He's got plans in place I like how immediately in the sea and she's all right, but don't be too obvious. We don't want him to notice, and then you cut to their car. He's like fuck. They're following us the driver's gotTa. And Drake like you know what to do. Turn into a bat and FLY AWAY BECAUSE WE'RE DRACULA's. That's exactly what happened. That's why the police couldn't find them. What actually happens well? They just do some fancy driving. Some slick maneuver is and they lose the FUZZ. Easiest baby I think they pull into a garage that just happened to be open, and then they could close though. Did they switch cars? Just hide for a second. They just hit for sex like the same car 'cause. I didn't know if they are pulling American. American which is also what I'm watching right now, and they'll sometimes switched cars to doesn't show good. It's really got maybe I should watch it. Yeah, is it on Netflix? Now it's on prime won't watch all right. You know who didn't lose. Though, is Goliath. Yes, who apparently has also been tailing drake on this whole time? Of course he has because he heard join. Con is who did this. He's like must have revoked. She went to cons penthouse. It's really lucky for the Gargoyles that everyone that they interact with lives or works or occupies the top level of a building. Yeah, dream boats apartment. She has a skylight. Up the the gargoyles can easily climb into her hospital room is also in the very top floor of a hospital, which I don't think I've ever seen before like a big private room. She must be the most important detective there in New York City I'm also drake on fancy office big. Desk Large Empty Room to house. That doesn't surprise me now based on what we know about him and his fancy suits shirts. Shirts just like fun coincidence. No, it is, it's very interesting. I had not put together. But yeah, you're right. It'd be nice to see them struggle with having to tail or interact with people or sneak into places. That weren't rooftops all the time now. Do you think that drake on has like Regular Day job? That's like this my illegal thing I do a his front. HM! I think as a coffin salesman. no I don't think he's got a day job. He's a dracula. Right can't be fine job. I stand corrected. These are the jokes people. We go to the docks yet. The finally we get to the Goddamn Docs. We've been talking about these gun sales at the docks almost all episode hair. It is yes. IS THE DOCS ON CANAL STREET? These ducks are beautiful and they are. They're majestic style guide. They've got the the would sure there are seagulls everything you'd want an dock water i. don't require water when it comes to docks you just like the ones I on land I. Prefer a dry dock. So we get to see glasses selling one of the laser blasters by Broadway was not having it. Yeah, who do you or for? He says he grabs by the fucking head skull. Because once glasses says. I worked for Drake on Broadway. Will of course know exactly what that is and know where to move to from there I mean when you're Gargoyles, know everything okay. We are moving over to the warehouse where the gun by is going down the same gun sale. It's a it's a buy. Sell buy low sell high I. Don't know about you, guys I. Don't know anything about guns. These are not great guns. They should be in the great guns these, aren't them. They should not be the public use. You know I kind of feel that way about all guns. You're entitled to your now. I mean no I mean let it be known here on this episode of the night. Liz loves guns. Guys, what is the deal with Liz Living Gun so much. Fuck you. I'M GONNA guns. You have is a thousand. I don't even have a NERF gun. We're GONNA get through this episode Liz, Yeah! This was OJ's made my brain melt I, think so Goliath is watching. The warehouses drake on and companies show up. They go inside. Broadway shows up because he knows which warehouses drake on Yup. Did he just fly like fucking? Go down there I'M GONNA. Go hang out. Maybe he did. See God. I goliath. What are you doing here? And also? Where have you been right? He's been missing for a bit and go is is like Oh. You're alive, but where the fuck have you been? But but the thing we had to pay attention all right, never mind we gotta go. We gotta move on these dudes right now. They're the ones who shot dream, boat the love of my life. We Must Have Anjar Rod Was We should get them shot to shot. They shot Oh. Well we gotta go get those guys because she's been shot. As you say, I'm just now learning this, but I'm shocked and appalled and we should coup. Who got to get him because she's been shot and I just I. This is the first time I'm hearing it. Let's go inside now. That was a great was exactly what happened, right? At a little bit of inner struggle, he's like Oh. I see current to you. We can deal with that later. Yep inside the warehouse. Yes, the two gargoyles. I don't know if you paid much attention to how they enter the bill this, but they entered the building through wall. Come running through like the fucking kool-aid man. No! That was more of a Macho Man Randy. Savage put you get my point. I don't think he's just like bursts through. He ripped it open. Maybe he ran hands, hands I, and he tour as he was running, it was like. Swam through the city swim through the wall yeah. fucking missionary now he is ready to kill which he he doesn't do that. He never does, but he always wants to this time. He really wants to you, don't you don't? Lady exactly. Fuck with his lady and they fucked well, they didn't actually. At the. Fuck with your. We did. And this sequence list. That's the funny thing in this scene. They are defending themselves. They have committed I. mean unless they have committed no crime, but Ari. This crime did not do it. They're like Holy Shit. Being attacked by a titus sore man, what is happening and we? Didn't do anything. There's a huge gunfight. This is our big action piece. Yes, it's very. It is cool the setup to get here now. But. This scene isolated is pretty bad. No, no, I agree I agree with that I. mean the Gargoyles rampaging through the building, just crashing through shit taken out the bad dudes. They're crushing guns in their hands, their person through walls, cargo crates, and they shut down the power. Happening in the dark and you know they've got those catlike is. They have to have nighttime vision right? They live in the night. Yeah, so they have to have that. Like harsh lighting actually fucks them yet. They're sitting in the. Living Room watching TV really messes with their is probably there are new glasses. They're GONNA be next glasses anyway, so the lights are out down. and. The bad guys had only see them when they shoot their gun. Because of the laser I think there's so much gunplay in this gives them flashes, so it's like you know. Those scenes were a black lights happening in like the person just keeps moving closer in like moving. What watch weird movies. Have you seen you only watch PORNOS LEWIS? I D-. Regardless list the lasers are going off and you see Broadway just like moving around fucking bad ass in this fight. He's trying to redeem himself. In his own is yeah, because I feel like more often than not in the fight scenes where all the gargoyles part of it. It's kind of whatever I mean. He's usually just eating a Turkey lake right, but he's out for blood well, even though he knows, he's the one who shot Dream Boat. These guys are giving more guns to people. This is making up for the bad deed he did. He is trying to make up for that and he's taken out all these gun stealing sons a bitches law. So he's taken out the henchman, yeah, Goliath chases down Dre Conham self, and he of course is big media. Pause on them, dream. Boat will have a reversion. It's GonNa be fucking he's going to start is going to tear them apart little by little, and it's disgusting. But we don't there I don't know why show never goes too far enough. because. It is a children's show yet again. It's someone being dangled over a building. Yeah, Drake, on his being dangled over the edge of bridge or a walkway thing and he's about to kill him. Broadway shows up to ruin the fun. This is not the time Broadway, but he finally speaks the truth. I just liked how Drake hotel was like wait. Why are you taking me? That's not because least codes, but. Who? Didn't shoot her this time. Broadway finally spills it. Like no, don't kill him because he shot. Dream Boat Kill him for a different reason because I shot dream, boat but Hillsdale. Kill him, but don't kill me. This pissing me off because he is trying to tell the truth and then lies about it. He says I was looking at her gun and it went off. You're not fucking looking at. Plane with that Goddamn done. It is weird. It's something that they gloss over to tell the larger narrative, but as adults looking at all of these fairly large plot holes really takes away from mine. Enjoyment which you know Fernow, it's for kids, but I think more than other episodes though this has been very preachy, yeah. Like Oh, this is good for the storyline. We just need to take you a lesson. Yeah, they had a message and they were going to tell it regardless of how it played out in the story itself. Yeah, so Goliath, having been robbed of the opportunity to justifiably kill a man, he starts to leave, and then the buyer shows up Liz. Who is the buyer? And I was right. You were right. SMART. You should write this show I mean. It hasn't been on the air for over twenty years. But Yeah I'll just write this show. Fantastic. Deluxe had to get the guns back somehow. Owen figured it was the easiest way to buy them back. That was covering up his own mistake here by letting the Gan's get stolen three episode, or this was a directive from deluxe, because it definitely makes it sound like deluxe had a hand on it, but Owens like Oh God oh God! Oh God, Oh God, but then we find out. There's like thirty seven missing. Yeah, has some. Are they all here and he's like. It's hard to say, but I think thirty seven are missing do. Number like it's hard to say, but it looks like about forty about thirty five. It looks like perhaps maybe if I had to estimate exactly thirty seven or missing. That was the weirdest thing to me I think more than anything else that happened in this episode and the best part is after that. Goliath is like actually I think you're off by a few because? They're all missing. Mother fucker. fucking took the huge. Cannon destroyed the fuck out of them like melts them, and he snaps the cannon over his knee, and any gingerly plays next the drake on and his gang who is tied up pipes is like I. don't know circumstantial evidences. I Dunno planted means permanent. Put this right here. I got to go now. Bye, bye! I mean I guess that's okay like? If you look at it as Batman Rules Batman, he beats up a bag. I love for the good guys to come. Get Him Yeah I. Guess I. Mean if you're already. The police is just coming to collect. Tied up bad guys like yeah. Sure, that's the weapon. It's there. I don't need to question. Why yeah, the seems logical to me as this all ends, the weapons are melted. The gargoyles have taken off. Owen has the look on his face. Of A man who is immediately trying to come up with convincing way to lie to his boss is like. Okay let's work through this. What happened? What can I tell him? Deluxe already knows somehow we never actually learn. Is that once when Owen was sleeping deluxe plants? A camera in his eyeball actually read to say that. BILLUPS has cameras and literally everywhere. I don't want to know why, but deluxe planted a camera in owens peanuts. Let's finish this. Damn episode and go back to the hospital. and Broadway goliaths go to visit and Dream Boat under chilling outside the window, her very large and very private room. I, mean like if you're that rich and fancy cool, and you know that being a New York City detective is one of the cushy jobs with the highest pay obviously very well to do, so she wakes up. She's GonNa be okay she will. Yeah and they're like okay. Cool. We with made it through. Yeah, her family tells her that drake on his men were found tied at the docks. All the weapons are destroyed. You didn't get to participate because you were shot, but someone did your job for you. You're welcome, right? I don't think that's the Tony took. No, he took a much loving big. Mean, they still want to understand what happened to her. And she was like it was probably drake on. Totally she's GonNa. Tell you about my bag house. She's going to cover for them, yeah! My Dragon Bro? He is stupid. Sean Lee and the the nurse Doctor I don't know what she was, but it was like okay. She's awake now, but she needs. Rossi, y'all need to get the fuck out, so the family leaves and immediately Goliath and Broadway like. The doctors still in. They're like. Hey. I thought I said. Dragon she left. She's like you can handle is. You're you're okay so? Broadway's being very apologetic. To his crime I mean. She knew she was there. She showed well. Yeah, but. He's like I'm the one that shot you and she's like. Yeah, but then the thing is she was like. Just your fault buddy. I left my to before. Yes, she did. She left her gun out somewhere. have she should have put it away responsibly, but also she fucking lives alone. WHO's how is that now? Responsible? It was in. It's holster knee. He fucking grabbed it. Stolen and shot her I know the idea that dream boat assumes responsibility here. Even a little bit is absurd. I have mixed feelings on that because like I am a firm believer that if you have a gun, it should be responsibly stored, but also like it's her job. She could be called at House responsibly store events. She lives alone so like that she's not. She's not going to accidentally shoot herself in theory and she could be like. Like maybe she's on call like thing goes out and she has to run out. She's GonNa grab her holster and put it on and run out the door so I think it's a little silly. I think that was a very heavy handed them to be like. And if you are a older, you must have a place for this to goes. Someone doesn't grab it accidentally. Which is true you should do that. You should store your gun properly. But as a detective who is single and doesn't have any children, I think it's a little different. I do as well as the episode ends. All is forgiven which A. Fine. If she forgives cool by Goliath was still be holding her garage. I would find it hard to forgive the. I need some time and space to process this. Because I didn't realize I was dealing with monster sized babies, you know, give me a couple days, and then perhaps we should have a gun safety lesson. Yeah, I'm going to take all my dragon bro to the range. This heavy handed ending, okay it, so it finally ends with the two gargoyles perched outside her window, as the sun comes up there, her guardians, her protectors her defenders of the night except for when they're shooting her right. Should we take one more break and then we can discuss our feelings. Yes, let's. Hello. This is Mike and I'm here to tell you about my podcasts comparing apples to oranges each month. One of my brilliant co hosts an I consume two pieces of media that are new to us. Usually move here in album we start each episode with a little background or history, and we create a set of criteria to figure out which one is better. Make things a little. Little different, we only compare to things in the same category that don't belong in Saint John. For example, some past episodes had great coke hosts, comparing to road trip movies to albums by the kids, a famous artist in two movies that scored zero percent on rotten tomatoes. CHECK US out each month wherever you download podcast or head over to the Cato podcast. STEP LOGS DOT com. Thanks! Liz We just finished gargoyles season one episode eight deadly force as always I would like to ask you. What did you think about this episode? Hate it I guess because it still feels, but it was my least favorite so far because of the heaviest hand. Right I feel like they're not giving kids enough. Credit here that like they could do an episode that is about gun safety without it being so Lewis is about gun safety. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it has to be that heavy handed I one hundred percent agree I feel like I. I mean have made my opinion pretty clear almost from the get go. I didn't like this episode. The Anna Little Dude I, like the action piece isolated. That was fun at the end, but to get there. It was so messy like they had to do a lot of hand waiving of things outside of the very special episode aspect of. Goliath knowing who drake on is where he lived where he would be like all of that stuff. Okay, that never heard of before. Yeah, because we know based on the timeline of the show, it's been not even six months since we first met the Gargoyles, but because of we know the length of deluxe is prison sentence. We have a firm grasp of the timeline right so unless they're leaving out so much information. Information like in comics. They call it between the panels. Stuff that you you didn't know that the characters new, but the characters. No big deal happened in between the hands. That's a lot of stuff for us to not realize that the gargoyles new like go is knows all about. Tony Drake on he and Dream Boat. They lamb bed early in the morning late at night. I don't know however you WanNa word it. Actually frustrates me a lot because I. think that's a really interesting thing that could have been dove into. It seems like there is a history there, and I want to know what has been working on. That's not gargoyles related. Yeah, I hate to say something like this, but this show could benefit from a gritty reboot delving into story and character more, and you know. The ninety s was a very different time, so we can't judge it on the show that we wish it was kind of have to judge it on the show that it is i. get that again. Who definitely loved it when we were little? We notice these things back then, but the very special episode aspect of it. Everything else ignored. All of the holes I felt like was messy and heavy handed and I didn't like it. Yeah, agreed. What are the visiting hours this hospital because they leave in the last thing they leave. And then the gargoyles come in, and then the gargoyles leave, and then it's sunrise, so they stayed there well past visiting hours, but I think sometimes visiting hours especially if you're in like something like ICU. Because I think they were camped out in that room. Right like they spend the night there i. don't think you could be camped out in the patient's room though. Your spouse is cartoon hospitals not very realistic. Need I remind you of the syringes the freight. Oh my God terrifying was. That is the end of our episode to reiterate didn't like it, but you know what there's one next week, kids Hudson's turn. Or Bronx Bronx get to go. Just. A very special lessons to go on a silent adventure. That would be great. Actually that'd be really. That would be fun I want that. 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Episode 204: Between Memory and Oblivion

Defenders Of The Night

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Episode 204: Between Memory and Oblivion

"Think. We are defenders of the night the most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favourite mid nineties animated program. shaking my head. I am your host was. Wrong. I am your host lists. What happening? I am your host Liz Urkel I guess I am your host Daniel Williams is this how a Roland with? Doing this. Broke it. started. Should I be concerned not yet okeydoke listeners I guess we're going with it Daniel. What is this episode was? Talking today about gargoyles season two episode for a lighthouse in the Sea of time are you prepared to do? So do you need a minute? Okay Thrill well, friends and Powell goals. This episode aired September Seventh Nineteen ninety-five getting. So close to my tenth birthday. I'm so excited opens a good episode whatever. This is a continuation of the daily episodes. I'm assuming they're going to do the first five, and then they go back to the one week has been frank power the whole time. Yeah. Frank par pair are we looked it up earlier and I could look at the beginning not going to this episode was directed by Frank Par. He's done four in. A row good for him a jet frank. It was written by Bryn Chandler reaves who I like most of the time Tim and she is paired up with Lydia Marano they teamed up an episode of the season which we love. We did not as a matter of fact, I was trying to think of what the second episode of this season was. It was the one with Derek turns into Wolf Cat Bat. It was a forgettable episode, but you know what? It was Lydia Marino's first gargoyles episode. So it's forgivable. This one is another weird one I liked it better. I did like it better I. Feel like this was a at least a slight bump up I feel like episode one of the season was pretty strong and then it did take a dip and now we're on an upswing like you said. So that's good. Team it. We'll see well before we get into episode fourth season two of Gargoyles. Dear listeners. You know what time it is. Liz is back with another one of her weird stunts apparently, she saying if you leave us just too nice reviews this week she'll wrap herself in a giant pizza in. Log Roll Down Art Hill Liz. You're getting weird I mean it's what makes people happy. I aim to please I. Don't know this seems like a youth thing like you just want to wrap yourself up in a big old pizza I get to eat it as you're rolling. It's it's. An escape. act. Just eat. It's hot pizzas. So the cheese which you get wrapped up melts informs like a straitjacket type of thing. So you gotTa Roll Down The hill and he your way out of the pizza before into the lake. Vol into the lake, which is a reference that everyone listening understands. They know what art, Hilas they know there's a lake at the bottom of it moving on. We start the episode and some sort of Cave as far as I know this is objectively one of your favorite locations for real life for fiction you gotta thing for caves in Pete's. I was quite excited that this episode started in a cave re bummed out that it didn't stay in a case a little bit. They were barely in the cave they mealy found this item that they were looking for. But what the hell were those cave hunters wearing I don't know I. Don't understand these people at all. They were British yeah. Their accents weren't British, but they were British she out were try it kind of reminded me of Jane and her father in Tarzan never saw. All. Right. Okay. Well, if any of you like the khaki color. Likes outfit Yes which is something that you would see in fiction that took place in early nineteen hundred initially I was like, Oh, well, it didn't say we're in a different ear 'cause I initially thought maybe this was a flashback of some sort like no, these are just weirdos there's just 'cause playing. Explorers. Well, they find a magical heart I mean. If I heard a harp as I was exploring a cave, I would turn the fuck around because you're not supposed to hear harps and caves. That's weird. But they keep on I'm pretty sure they're. They're hunting these items on purpose like I think they had an idea like they were. That's Deanna. Jonesing? Shit. While you would invoke Indiana Jones, I wouldn't even throw this to the mummy. The these explorers were fucking wack. The room that they find is just covered in weird treasures including the harp. It looks like someone's hidey-hole. Yeah. So the heart plays itself to which overlook that in my notes, but the heart is just plain harping that's not right. No one is concerned with ghosts they should be I'd be like. So in addition to the ghost harp, they find a really cool box. Yes. Inscribed on the front of the box in quote ancient Celtic it says the seeker of knowledge need fear nothing here the destroyer everything. Okay. Cool. So it's a mysterious box with knowledge and then this bitch is immediately awarded up girl. You're not going to be a little careful at all. Like cool. I would knowledge and like pop it open there is a box in myth with all kinds of bad shit in it that was locked away. It had a name I can't remember what it's called. But it was a bad idea to open said box. Why. Are you doing? Historically, boxes have been bad. She's goes where it she's goes Lou magic pours out of this box. Yeah and all around these two people an inside they find hidden magic things including the scrolls of. The thing I don't know I'm not well-versed in King, Arthur history me either but I was excited when they finally mentioned Merlin because I I've been bringing it up multiple times like there's a tie to. Arthurian. Legend in Gargoyles because I'm very old and forgetful I don't know what it is but this has got to be the beginning of that. Yes. From there we jump to the clock tower the gang's all here they're just hanging out. There having fun reading periodicals there immediately talking about Merlin. So they've heard that these squirrels are coming to the met and Lexington is renowned all these facts facts. Then, Goliath, you know that the library below is has tons of information on Merlin if you're interested and I literally forgot that there was a library also in this police building the thing it puts the library in place because we've seen Goliath goes to the library. Yeah, and we didn't know where the hell he was and we assumed it was in the same building that it was a little weird. This is like a mixed use building was this weird in New York City right where like has one of the most famous libraries? Small. Township yeah are. You can put your fire station, your police station, your library, Your City Hall all in one building. So they're talking about reading and Broadway's League flook reading I can't read what I need to read. Yeah, he wasn't even like, Oh, I'm kind of ashamed that I can't read or anything like that. Who went hardcore defensive like Fook, he's not just illiterate he's anti literacy. That's weird and everyone else will just kind of like. Okay. I mean the because a theme throughout the whole episode Yeah. This episode is a attack after school special. It was like a reading rainbow of Gargoyles really was and when I realized that it was like, wait a minute what the fuck is going on here. As someone who both writes and reads allow quit bragging was like I understand the importance of this but even I was like, all right this is a little heavy handed. The heaviest hands. And, we'll get into an even more later because it just continues on and on and on Boo. For All the scene is pretty light hearted. We cut over to Hudson who is watching celebrity hockey with Bronx it doesn't surprise me he's a hockey fan I feel like he'd be really into hockey. I don't know I feel like because. He's got hockey vibes. He's a warrior, their whole warriors. He also watches more TV than everyone else. So Dream Boat is apparently part of the scroll escort team, the set Ooh God with Matt. Doing this cool thing. And Glide is like Oh just go have fun with matinee and I'll here and he doesn't know he doesn't but he does go sassy phase like he lives a little unhappy that she's like okay by angering Negu, this thing Merlin's girls back. And then he decided to this like angry look on his face that they focused on and I don't know. And it was also the first time that Dream Boat wasn't just like Matt Yeah I think she's finally getting used to her partner, which is good because they're co worker so you can't be addictive co workers forever it's not her style. No, it's not but it'd be funny. The whole like the entire run of the show is like fucking asshole and he's like I'm standing right ear she. So on our way out, she mentions that these girls are sealed and rumor has it. They contain magic spells and I think that's Goliath makes the face at like no not magic. She always goes wrong when magic. Magic. Has never done anything for me. It's done me no favours I've got turned into stone with magic got hunted by Dimona with magic best friend came back to life because of magic. Magic is bad where glass quick question who is starting these rumors who the fuck does. She know there's like, let me tell you about some magic rumors. I heard three like go on. Tell me more about the magic rumor like what who you is it Matt that. MOTHERFUCKER Matt, match like I heard in the Kook weekly newsletter that I read they have magic spells. He's in a weird Yahoo. Chat Room. It's the ninety s he be in their own, the AOL chat group that I frequent. Then I was wondering if she just fucking with Goliath because of his bad run INS with magic Jews like. Hey Goliath I heard there was magic in this bells. I. Feel about magic why you gotTA bring that Shit Up Well we leave the clock tower and go to a boat. Yeah. A really fucking rocky boat yeah. Getting so sick now, where we hearing any of this bad weather outside of the Clock Tower, Oh are we supposed to believe that this insane storm rolled in in between scenes on one of the rivers there's this coming from the ocean assume that it's coming from the ocean because what we're GonNa get to in a second because why are they on a boat but they were coming from Scotland or England I mean I assume Scotland originally because of the tied to Macbeth me just because of its really the real deal Merlin. Before Scotland existed, I don't know history and I don't want to Great Britain area or the focus do not. Care it's not like they ever told us where it's supposed to be. So I'm doing my best similar over their boat suddenly Dream Boat and match show up on another rocky boat and are climbing up i. feel like there could have been a better way to do this like a helicopter. helicopter onto that shit or something. But now I'm going to have the coastguard take me out on this boat. Then I have to climb up the rickety ladder to get onto your boat. Here's where I was wondering where's the rest of the escort? It's a team of two. So this job was important enough to have somebody escort the scrolls, but not that many people wasn't that important just ancient history literally in the palm of your hand here. Do you think this hats going to survive through the end of the series like it dream boats hat that matches her windbreaker. She. Suddenly she's Rockin this baseball cap with a high ponytail I was wondering if she opened a new bank account and they gave her a free hat or something like what what is hat come from? It's probably an official NYPD had official police colors nor was it branded? It's her official undercover nypd hat I liked it because without saying. So it serves a very practical, very real purpose. She's a woman with a lot of long hair and she's going to you know rocky boat lot of wind and shit. She got gotta tie that Shit Up. She's got to keep it out of her face. Yeah Hat. Yeah. Because she normally does run around doing her detective staff with her hair just everywhere, which also doesn't seem like a great idea but you know to each their own. There on this boat. Yeah and they are literally introduced to the scrolls. Here are these scrolls that we found neat Where's the dude that was with her the explorer lady I don't know and There were people lady I thought Guy Driving the boat was the same guy like he's driver and in other captains, right? Driver she knew that though right I mean yeah we're being we're okay. All right. So the boat driver. So the boat driver. I was assuming that was the same guy as the explorer. I would disagree because the lady state in her nineteen twenties explore clothes and he was in captain and he put on his boat driving. Maybe it's like win, he has to change. She's like, no, you're the boat driver now. So you must change out of your. Clothes on your boat driving uniform sir. Okay So, they're introduced to the scrolls and are talking about that, and then shit goes wrong as it obviously was going to do. Yeah. Hey. I need to talk more about this boat I. I'm sorry. Okay. Okay. Sure. Sure. Sure. This still takes place in one thousand, nine, hundred, five, right there were airplanes and that's a weird question because they get attacked by jets why the fuck are they on a boat I don't know I did a little bit of research. Okay. It can take up to seven days to travel by ship from the UK to New York City. It takes that many hours in an airplane. Yeah. What is boat for? Why do bow two votes or not to boat? That is that's a stupid question not boat maybe their league. Well, you see our nineteen twenties explorer costumes, we must do everything. Deep diving whose play. Maybe they don't trust airport security back then I'm on a motherfucker. Don't you ever forget. But they could have chartered a private jet. If they have the ability to chart. It seemed like a semi private big boat like that's what they're. They're called big boats Liz. You said Shit went wrong. Okay these like weird ships that apparently these are jets. On a ship being attacked by jet these weird jets, it can just like land helicopters do they don't need to like a? Runway unless. I'm really I feel like I'm carrying this one. Carrying it this week. I don't WanNa diminish your contributions to this episode. Okay. So at the same time that these jets are appearing, see the Gargoyles also appearing I, feel like anytime during boats like him and go do this thing. It's like, Hey, I'm GONNA follow you. Yeah. He's a jealous boyfriend. That's what's happened. She was bragging about doing a thing with Matt and he was like Oh. You're not doing a thing with just mad I'll fuck and be. there. So during the we see these jets appearing and Lexington is like, Oh, I know those are those are something something fancied or Harrier jets. Okay. Cool. Is that for real religion? Okay. Really do take off and land like that. They don't need your average runway interesting. Don't have lasers though obviously has to be Santos creation that these things have pugh lays you gotta stick a fucking laser. then. It's a good design change in that color scheme looks good quick question. We're the fucking lasers with the at who do you think you worked for? This is Santos Industries. We put lasers on Shit it's in the marketing material. Does Industries we lasers, don't you. CRAW THE COMMERCIAL SAY Shirt that says that The jets appear and shoot out all these windows on the ship. You Dream Boat tries to like Dhaka all the way and explore lady just kind of lays there like a possum playing dead like I don't think she was actually hurt or hit by anything she looked at dream about had to literally drag her and hide her under a desk. Or the console or whatever that's called whatever driving boats. We cut back to the GARGOYLES, right? Yeah and Lexington's talking about how he read about. Harrier jets in a like I'm cool and this is when Broadway fuck you fuck books realize way better. You can not be much of a reader. You can not even know how to read but to be like fuck books. That's a weird stance to take a weird take. He has always like if I ever got my hands on a book, I'd set it on fire and then shit on the fire like all right Broadway. That's. Weird. Yeah. It was so intense and over the top that like Broadway Buddy who hurt you with a book somebody beat him with a book like he beats people with Turkey legs. So bad people I guess we'll call them. Goon, squad his and her goons Yay get out of the Harrier. Harriers. Thank you and of course, have laser guns and they start fucking wasting fools on the deck of the ship. It's not something that you see in the show all the time just bad guys killing people usually it's assumed or things are thrown or like somebody throws a big rocket, a crowd or something weird like that. But these people on the deck were gunned down and the captain is in trying to get the coast guard and not having any luck at all you know who might have been a good addition to the escort team for this. The fucking coastguard. They dropped them off, they fucking drop them off I. You assume coastguard regardless think they would be then the boat escort you armed people on the boat. Cool. We will escort you in with our ships literal escort, not a couple of dufuses from the NYPD Matt with even doing during any of other. Where was he? No, he was on the boat we went hiding. He's like Oh this is scary. He missed the gargoyles again I don't know because he just kind of disappeared even see him the rest of this episode does he talk in this episode? I mean if he says something, it's so innocuous forgettable couches Matt. I think he might just be seen and not heard, and then he goes away in this fight scene he gets like knocked out or hit or something as soon as the goons here come through the door by the way, they blast the fucking door off the hinges with so much force that it takes out the captain like he's across the room and it blows off the hinges and flattens the capita she's as. Now I will say the goon squad they're kind of hot really they had like super defined jaws and like muscular and Straw, you really do have a fictional type. Learn so much about my friend lives here as we do the show. The woman with her like really like sharp hair. Really I liked it. I Don. The guy is missing an eye or something we didn't learn that 'til like the next scene that's true. But he's all like cockeyed and the he straight up as missing an I like he takes off his sunglasses and one I it was a weird choice not put an eye patch. It was also a weird choice to be a pilot when you don't have perfect vision I don't think that's allowed. I mean he's not in the military he's hired goon. He probably took an online course to learn how to fly a hair watching youtube videos only play Harrier jet. You know how Lexington learned from Video Game Airport Yeah. So The New York Police Department's escort team is fucking useless. Yeah. They do not do their job at all in fact I think they just make things worse. They really do. Okay. So they make Matt injuring boat look like amateurs and they walk out with the script they get them with no real effort. They got back to their jets and are taking off, and that's when the guardrail show up and thirty seconds to yeah and they saw the jets coming in but I guess when you can't fly, you can't really go any faster. That's true. 'cause I was curious I was like they thought they seemed to be in the air at the same time. Hudson goes after the dude, right? Yeah. Smashes through the window. Kind of blindly groping around trying to get the canister he knows what he's looking for. He's ever seen this before and he's got one is so he managed to get the canister. Yeah, and then apparently these jets have a weird electroshock barrier that's typical of Harrier jets as far as. I know from watching are going. You like just presses the button and Hudson gets electrocuted and falls into the ocean and he drowns, and then the last we ever see of Hudson he falls to the bottom of the ocean forever meanwhile, Goliath attacks the Lady Goon, and we know that he's no match for magic and laser, and so a jet filled with magic scroll covered and lasers he was doomed before you even made his way there. She blasts away but not enough to knock him out this time. I think it was just like swatting a fly out of here and she takes off she's got her scroll and as you mentioned, we see Hudson floating in the ocean and we cut away I will say it feels like it's less bouncing around than last time I mean the next few scenes contradict you specifically but overall yes. Yeah. I had a question about the gargoyles ability to stay in the air flying from the say the docs all the way out to the ocean. Now, we don't really know the distance, but well, established can't fly can't flap doesn't work. That's a long way to glide. To keep yourself airborne maybe because it was so stormy the they kept getting up lifts maybe the ocean I mean anything's possible when you just ignore physics. which gargoyles tend to do really. Yeah. Well, from there we end up in the docks. This woman is never given a name I'm sorry. Daniel named her lady exploring tin, which I think is a solid named choice. And she's given a statement to the COPS. And remote sneaks off to give her statement to the gargoyles she angle either like okay. This is deluxe all over it and yet again she's like. I know he's part of this but I have no evidence. That's not fair. You're not being a good police officer I. GotTa Say Shit and he's a bad dude but you are supposed to look for facts and look for an objective truth as your fucking job I hate to see that in dream bio because she's supposed to be like this top notch detective she's not doing a very good job detecting. No, she's not. She's literally did no work at all usually is looks go get them I can't you have to and then I think she disappears from the episode I might be right I don't think we see her after the scene well from there we go. We land on a beach. and Hudson fancy drinks. Sunny Sunny Beach Town Yeah Lounge maybe rita a novel. Paperback Book While Not Not Huson he can't read always spoiled it. He also can't be. All right. We'll get there. He's not dead he washed up on the shore and there's a beautiful house. I have to say that like kind of Gargoyles looking thing made me a little nervous about what was going to happen. I honestly wasn't sure if that was Macbeth's news resident. That's what I thought at first too because he burned down his castle last time we met him. We do know that this is a very expensive looking house very large right next to the ocean without a seawall that's just inviting flooding inviting destruction what he'd doing Yan, who would ensure this No one exactly. This is insurance talk with Linda. Where we go through fictional houses and talk about the insurance rates. I mean Hudson's not dead. That was the scene we've discussed it for far too long right. So then we jump to another giant mansion total different one. This is actually this little jumping around part to get a little confused and I had to rewind and rewatch casino after this where at another giant mansion, there's three really giant homes with the focus happening. This one is where the jets return. Yeah. This is their home base and you know when you're a jet, you're jet all the way. This gigantic mansion, which is even bigger than the previous one has an airplane hangar, which is convenient. When you have to Harrier jets, you have to house. Yeah. Did you notice that goon guy in addition to apparently being blind at this point should be entirely deaf because he was flying without any kind of cockpit covering. Ripped it off and he flew his loud fucking jet hundreds of miles an hour to his home base, and he wasn't wearing a head now and he wasn't wearing a mask for oxygen. Will it makes zero sense? Okay. Anyway. So we find out that this is when he takes off his sunglasses that he's been wearing at night and we see that he is missing an eye. Yeah, and his DEF. Yeah. Really. Funny. So Goon Guide tells goon girl that he lost his grow canister. Now, what would have been hilarious is if they leaned into the kind of hearing issue and if he just screamed all the rest of his lines like. Canister she's like, why are you shouting? It's like oh it was. The funny thing is talking about insurance. She made a joke about insurance 'cause she was like. I don't think your insurance going to cover that insurance is hilarious. The boss is now going to like losing the scroll man and stealthy EST Garden of them. All plays sneaks behind them without being seen and somehow makes a hole in her jet without being heard I guess maybe she actually had her ear protection on still she forgot to take it out and he's already deaf. So she had hers and so when he was screaming at her, she didn't even notice because she had her earplugs and she's like, oh, he's talking by fine. and Broadway just rips open the side of her jet and steals the canister like he's an sneaks on sneaks away grabs a Turkey leg and farts on his way out and his home free. Only. This is the third gigantic castle that we go to over to castle. Yeah. So the gargoyles that are still around burst into the castle, and there's just like islwyn whereas deluxe in our friends when is just hanging out updating his friendster page on like hanging out at the PC over in the corner. Maybe riding in his live journal. He totally has life journal Nineteen ninety-five. Yeah. Totally on the might be a little early might be a couple years too. Early he has some online journal. Yeah. He's definitely got like an angel fire website Geo cities. And goliath he has words for Owen. Let's listen to those words on a toss put Broadway where. I suppose that could be anywhere. He'll games take us to them. You should know I can't do that. Liberal find them ourselves. I had a theory I. Don't know if you remember when we discussed back in episode one, that Owen is secretly the main antagonist of the gargoyles program in. David Santos is just a robot. If you recall the Santos that we see in the coyote armor robot yes I maintain that all deluxe is our robots. Owing to secretly the bad guy. So He's here he's like. I don't know where deluxe is you're talking about man he he's not he's not doing anything wrong 'cause he's bugging row. Now that doesn't actually hold up but we don't know a my talks isn't really in this episode which was refreshing. Honestly Owen is just so needlessly evil here. Sinister face. He's got the pithiest pissy boy faces going. Hey I. know that you don't now what he doesn't. That's the most hilarious part is that I'm jumping ahead but he doesn't actually know what the fuck is talking about and he's just playing it up. He's being addicted Goliath for no reason. Yeah. He couldn't just be like dude, not us this week is deliberately trying to get under Goliath skin totally, and I don't know why just because he's evil but owens shouldn't be evil. He should be the accomplished to evil. Yeah. Unless he's the main antagonist, maybe he secretly angry that deluxe is actually part of something big right now Owen doesn't know the details. Really you know I can't tell you that because. Plans for today, we had plans. Poor old I. of course, I can't tell you because that would be against the plan. which we know there are my part in that plan is to be here. My blog. The plan, let's go to the hangar. Yeah Broadway thought he was attacking in the scene, but really he was doing something much smarter, which is unusual for Broadway. He is just running. He manages to like knock over some barrels to like knock over the goons and he's trying his darnedest to get out of there he rips a hole in the wall. kool-aid man's his way through the hangar. Gargoyles love Kool aid man. And it seems at that moment that it's working but he gets outside and he is immediately met by Mark Beth t how the music turns Scottish. Yes. I immediately clock that Shit and I was like Oh, come on guys like Evil Beg. But it's like the gargoyles theme. So I'm like, okay. No to self mcdaniel Meka, Gargle Bagpipe version of the theme zone. Yeah. Like I know anything about Baghdad you've seen. That's fake bagpipes are for you for that. All right. Mark. Beth shows up and we cast to commercial. 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Shack better just keep running straight maybe he thought that he could barrel him over but like obviously he's had a run in with big MAC before bake MAC means business. He knocked the shit out of like all of them right? Okay. So of course, big Mac he snatches on Broadway and throws him right now you sit the fuck down young man when Broadway gets back on his feet, he hit with not a grenade like a gas pellet. Big Mac throws a ball and then green fart clouds appear out of the ball and instead of trying to escape this situation Broadway just stands in the gas and then passes out. Yeah. Well, he struggled a little bit. He didn't try to run. He didn't try to serpentine ever gassed before been in close quarters with farts. It's a similar setup. Good. Maybe you've you've been around in McGowan. All those Dan Burrito. You. Listen I have no idea we're about to find out. So because Broadway officially the worst gargoyles and I'm including Dimona and decoys, mind goals, he basically hands over the scroll to Macbeth but there's a twist. ooh, he cracks it open would you believe it clip the scroll of? Seemed by my own hand. The second and final compendium. Second. Be. Useless even dangerous to read these out of order to you got to read them in order. But he says something specifically about sealed or my own hand. Yeah. which makes me really want to know like I don't think he's Merlin. But I'm like was he there when this all went down he? No Merlin like I'm so fucking confused about Macbeth more. So than I was the first time we met him and we were like he the real. Macbeth. Is He a time traveler? Is he magic of some sort like what the fuck is? His situation? Is he just a liar right talking to himself here so why would he say that I don't know I'm very intrigued by the character of Macbeth and it's just frustrating to me that they don't give us much. That is the nature of this program. But I feel like with him it's even worse because he's got some serious ties to Gargoyles if what he's saying is to be believed. And that is interesting because scissor ancient ties if the whole thing with Dimona, and him has any truth to it, which she has yet to confirm like we've never seen them in the same episode really interesting the hope that up. Okay. So big MAC is really disappointed with his hired goons because you've got to read these order you don't want to read the sequel before he read the first she's going to spoil it from here we go to Hudson. SLEEPYTIME, beach. Finally wakes up. I don't know how long he's been laying there like what the timeline is here, but it's real. At that time of night, it was happened. Can you imagine the sun came up when he was she'll just float in the ocean by Hudson got but he wouldn't trounce because he was he'd be entirely stone, but you'd wake up and we'll. Well he's on the beach but I'm saying he's he meets blind fella by the name of Jeffrey. Robbins he is voiced by Paul Winfield now I recognize the voice, but I couldn't place a name to it. Okay. I'm not going to get too deep into Paul Winfield's criminal mention to thanks to you. He voiced the mechanic in an episode of Batman the animated series one of my favorite M. programs of all time. Okay. New Mechanic was the person that maintained the Batmobile also to tie into our ongoing podcast within a podcast. Liz favourite show that she's never seen he played a starfleet captain in the nineteen. Eighty two film star Trek to the wrath of Khan. It's all about star Trek in this family. Everything comes back to star Trek Okay. Thank fuck that he met a blind man who just here's his voice and can't see him and the dog he likes him which makes sense because Bronx and him or best us and the dogs like Oh. You're a nice man. Yeah. That's very trusting. Feel like if I were ex military and blind, I would not be trusting no and he's ex NAM. Yeah and he's intense military. Yeah. Probably got some real fucking PTSD issues especially because the wars what made him blind. Well they just a sweet writer boy. Yes come in kind. Sir Implicitly Trust You. Well, then we jump to Macbeth's MC jet. So the goons has taken Broadway hostage until they were covered this girl. Yep that's pretty much it. We just go to his jet and then we leave the jet. Okay. Sure. Right back to Jeffrey Robbins under lead mansion by the sea. I. Guess You don't when you're lying you don't need lighting so yeah. Okay that's fine. I was like, Oh, it's really dark in this room. I was curious when he sleeps 'cause like he's up all night long with Hudson Yeah that does put into question. What time is it? He's out for a nighttime stroll on the beach. Yes. Finds The guy who is passed out on the beach not a normal thing to find. He even said the beaches around here aren't safe at night anymore yeah. He also knows he shouldn't out there because it's not safe after dark he's kind of doggy seeing eye dogs attack dog. Maybe. He's trained for both. Oh. Okay So they're having a discussion they're warming their old bones by the fire, and this is when we get Jeffrey Robin's backstory. This. Purple Heart for this. So busy trying to hurt a bunch of green kids through that. I didn't watch my step. Shrapnel. Never see it coming now Vietnam. The war so Frustrated that he hasn't been writing because he he thinks. His Muse has left him. Did you catch a look at the book that he handed? Hudson I got fantasy vibes? Yes. For sure. I, saw some sort in sorcery types. So Hudson is not really impressed with Jeffrey and his ability to quote right boobs we spoiled it earlier. But as it turns out, Hudson can't read actually seems really embarrassed by the fact, he can't read. Why do you think that he never learned to read I don't know like glides just sits there all sexy reading books with his classes And LEXI tells him off and he he bites the. Done. He's thinking Yes Georgia Martin tell me more about the super. Okay Hudson Camry that's what we're talk can't read and he's really embarrassed about this fact he used to be a leader Liz. It's a failure of the GARGOYLES education system. It is I demand reform. Why did some of these gargoyles fall through the cracks like I can understand maybe Hudson initially cut he's so much older i. don't know how old Hudson actually is you know minus the thousand years but now Amir call it a year after his been awakened I don't. Timeline is but he looks like he is a person that wants to know how to read. Yes. Maybe it's just so busy fighting vikings amy I mean that's very possible that it would have been like a a luxury. I don't know because I can read plenty of Gargoyles can read I think the Broadway one is confuses me even more because like if his rookie brothers learn to read why didn't he? Yeah. So back on big MACs Majette, we're still looking for the scrolls. Yes Broadway asks the question I. Think we've all been asked who was this Merlin? Just another stupid magician. He was a singular spectacle. Bearded old man who took a ragged boy and with magic and wisdom turned into the greatest king this will see. King with justice and compassion. Cup The tone remnants of warring tribes knit them into a country of beauty and civilization. Marlon always by his side until the trouble. So is big Mac King Arthur? No. Always. Not Wrong here. You know he says you know you describe it like you were there. Yeah. He at least sounds like if not king Arthur then like someone who may be was an assistant to Merlin or something like someone who was in the knights of the round table or? Something and he says, he'll by my own hand earlier. Yeah. The fuck. Is Big Mac. Macbeth is king because Macbeth there's magic also yeah. Because there's the witches this might be the best storyline that the show has offered us today. This should be the focus. Yeah. Like let's just do this for you know ten twelve episodes come on. Joe gives more. We go back to castle y God it's so funny Owen has moved to a different room and now he's reading the newspaper. Really he's bored. So puck news in the great. Hall he was checking his email own. Going to the office, I'll read the paper. This is his job. This is what he gets paid to do but how the fuck its deluxe. So one of my earlier guesses was correct because as it turns out, Owen is totally fucking with Gargoyles here I assume they were searching the castle for Hudson and Broadway showed up earlier like where are Bros. and owns like I can't tell you. So they just went room by room I mean, that's what it seems like here and they find and he's like I can't I can't hold any longer. Known of our Harrier jets or even here they're all in the shop. That's not us. We didn't do. Fuck you Goliath. Could think to fuck with Guoyou. Wrong Castle Bitch. was bored. He's like I don't have anything to do deluxe is on vacation. In the Bahamas, I'm fucking with the GARGOYLES. Why don't you go bug big fucking Nerd I. got your friends here also in the shop right. You would think that he has. Jeffrey Robbins from Batman the animated series did they say, Hey, the mechanic we need you to work on our Harrier jets they shot isn't his whole castle the shop. In, dire fucking building. You'd think he would have the ability to fix his shit that he created. I, mean maybe that's the case but that's not how it feels. Like I. dropped it off at the auto body shop and they'll be back later Harrier jets Meinicke right now. Been Me You could try macbeth that's Owens says so you the big Mac has his own jets are they in a club because initially deluxe hired Macbeth so they've worked together but like we don't know what they're working relationship is how close of an eye does still keep on him like do they just hire him when needed? Like are they in cahoots together like what the fuck is? happening big Mac is clearly independently wealthy. He owns at least two castle. You can just burn one down and say fuck it. so He seems like a person that deluxe would have already known about fucking billionaires know each other there's not that many of them they're in a club, go to the islands together and do we're Shit Yeah they have sex with underage girls, Yep yeah. Very real very dark place. I took it there. I just continued it. Yeah I don't know what subtlety means. Why don't you tell me about? Jeffrey Robbins House that's where we're going. Now let's go back. I like his house. So Jeffrey in Hudson, they're discussing literacy and immediately had questions when they're talking. Because you know Hudson's like I can't read and I'm tool to learn and jeff's like, Hey, man I didn't learn Braille until I was forty years old. So Vietnam happened ended in one thousand, nine, seventy, five. Yeah. So the only way this makes sense is that he was blind for years after he was discharged yeah and finally learned, Braille he does not look old maybe middle age I would put him at. I mean maybe fifty. Yeah, and this is ninety five. So this is twenty years after the war ended. Yeah. Assumed he at the most was thirty wall in the war that was what Vietnam was famous for other the young. Of than us, totally botching it. was. Yeah. Okay. Regardless I do think he went a long time before he learned Braille that's how it feels to me. Yeah. Because let me the ways as it was like, Oh, I was. You know I waited until I was I mean I guess I'm just project I waited until I was forty was how I'm hearing. Yeah but. Okay yet the fact that Hudson has been able to hide the fact that he's a little, right? Yeah. The other Gargoyles don't know no one knows whereas Broadway's. Read books can't do it by don't. WanNa. Yeah. Why would I want to spend time reading books? What I could live my life yo he literally said earlier. Here's why would I read books when life is exciting real life suit saying like, Hey, how are these two things? Related man whatever I read my books to get rid of life. In. The middle of this conversation Liz Hudson is like Ho, Shit. Sons about to come up I. GOTTA go. They've been awake all night. Jeffrey Robbins is going to be exhausted exhausted, and so he like I gotta go I gotTa go and Jeffrey's like, oh. My God I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend you. Probably. I just really got to go I have to poop and I don't like doing these strangers houses. legit. Like. Trots out, he does a little Gallup this old man gargoyles thing. And he jumps up onto the exterior wall. We're all the regular like run of the mill gargling gargoyles and he jumps up just in time and he turns to stone enlists. Did you notice the canister? Yeah not turn. And then real convenient for big Mac and I was like, does that mean that Broadway turned to stone on the ship which later on, we see the back in the ship and he is, of course, did the chains that had him did they turned us down that I did not notice pay attention actually it's a season one versus season two thing because we've seen like Hudson Sword and season to. Not Turn to stone in season. One things they held totally turned us down. We saw it with Dimona in her laser vaginal and his sword used to turns down. But now when the story requires, it does not that kind of inconsistency like, Oh, well, we needed to not be stone so it can't happen now like bullshit I agree good I'm glad good I was worried that you weren't going to. Do. So we see that the mix jet. Is Right there outside of just house the camera pans up in. It's right above it like they had to have seen Hudson run out or the very least. They will immediately notice the stone version of him even if they got there right after that fact yeah, and I mean they do jumping ahead but they pretty much do and it seems like the Jig is up there they are men goon and big Mac and how about we take a quick commercial break? Know How you're GONNA get there. All right. Diane remind me to get Cherry Pie filling. Come on man I told you I don't even like David Lynch. Yeah. But you've never seen twin peaks you might really like it. You never know there is absolutely no way I'll get into that show and prove it okay. I'm intrigued how I'm going to watch every single episode and Co host a podcast where we discuss all the ways in which I can't stay in the show. Yeah. That seems counterintuitive I. Hope it's funny at least the Cherry Pie we'll be. Funnier than that, I hope shut up subscribe to the Black Lodge Complaint Department on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast and check us out at calamity gas DOT com. Okay. So we're back and we're still at the mansion and the ship has landed big Mac just like scurries on over and it's just like. Minded someone else's businessman Jeffrey. His dog is not happy and I don't think that this is how I'm not speaking as an expert but I thought the seeing dogs were trained to not behave this way because of how like a blind person would react and respond like if their dog started freaking the fuck out barking and scratching at the door like they're supposed to be able to lead in chill I don't know. But I think most of the time. Yes. But I think they are supposed to detect danger right like if you're blind and your dog didn't want you to Weirdos outside your door me like an old dinosaur Guy Yeah Okay But he's Nice Macbeth is not in his dog just happens to know your animal instincts and all that Shit trenchcoats. Yeah it's a fact Liz. APPEARS TO BE CLOSED WINDOW JEFF SAYS WHO's there and gets a response from. macduff Aka our pal big Mac do understand this reference. I mean you understand it before they explained later in the episode no, I should have picked up on mcduff. I was like macduff I. Bet that's 'cause I couldn't remember Lennox but I was like iron. Yeah. Lennox. I did not remember at all. It's probably been ten years since I've read. Macbeth. So I did not remember the name Lennox at all by like. Let's really. Then, they go through the trouble of explaining it later. And I'm like well fine. You're just going to tell us. Through the closed window, he's like, Hey, who's there and Lennox McDavitt Lennox Macbeth like they're having a conversation through a closed door it's class you can hear through it may and. It was just so dumb I was upset I'm like we're talking through the glass then open the fucking door and like he does what is this dumb scene and all right I just get hung up on the weird shit sometime. It's okay. Thanks you're. All right values fucking weird. But yeah. No. So He's like I'm just looking for my pal Hudson. He's my buddy jeff is like, oh, well, you just you just missed him. He's a little suspicious. You can tell just like. He's not he's not here. He just left get the fuck. Oh Yeah. Like I don't want you here. Yeah. Big magazine Oh. By what not going to interrogate him or anything? What if Jeffrey was lying? How did he see Hudsell? You mean because he walked right by him is I don't know I think that he did see him the dog was barking sorry make something up. Yeah I mean that's the only way. This isn't the dumbest fucking seen in the right yes I think that's what happened because he walks by and immediately it's just like Oh, you wink. Yeah. uh-huh is mine and takes the canister. He gets the cancer. Why didn't Hudson try to hide it? Not just Hudson not no. That doesn't turn anymore maybe not. Like put down his link between his butt cheeks or tail or something put it under his gut role you know. A little just. To protect it, it's not just like dislike dainty grasp on. You didn't have to fight it because initially I was worried that going to break Hudson's handle. was so nervous. But he just was like slight. That's why didn't you fucking insert that into your body I? Mean that would be really big. You don't know what he's capable of. It's true. I don't know what he's into or what he's been doing what he's been practicing. It's got at least a thousand years. Okay Liz we cut to the sun going down and we get to watch a gargoyles wake up because it wouldn't be the show gargoyles if we didn't get to see gargoyles wake up, but it's not your favorite one now but hopefully, it did something. Maybe just little tangles I don't know and frankly do not want to Hudson goes looking for the canister. Yes. Because after fourteen hours or so he forgot we do with aid I was holding it when I left but I kind of blacked out don't remember did I drop it here? We're the canister go Keanu he had it. I think he's just like Oh. Okay. Well, I could probably just double check anyway and like I guess he couldn't say Hey I turn to stone and now this things missing do you know what happened to all right fair enough fair enough jeff is like well, your buddy was here what buddy macduff UNEXPECT- Tuffy. So I dunno fucking Lennox macduff. The Scottish people I've ever met surely know Lennox macduff. Yeah. So he's like yeah. That seemed like a fake name to me because that's a character in the play Macbeth he pulls out a copy of it because he knows where everything is in his library just be like. miscount, Braille and. Like I. Don't know. I think it was a books in your living room books. No I'm saying I think some of your books in your living room like do you know if you're like I'm looking for this specific book? You can just blindly be here I mean, he can. He's blind. I'm just saying most of the time I do not know where my books are on my shelves listen maybe you need a decimal system do I really do it was in an order at some point in the night got fucked up see that's on you that your books on an alphabetical order by author that's not an US problem leave Geoffrey Robinson Miata. Your Shit I like my books to be like by type, and then if I have a bunch of same author, I will group those together but there's no any particular order going on. That's insane fiction books together and all my nonfiction books together and all of our comic books together and all the crashes together but his no. Booking, crazy. That's crazy shit. You're talking about I am rethinking our friendship. The book words is like the thing i. It was better organized than Jeremy fucked it up because they were filming something for blame a guy who can't defend himself right now. Anyway, he's like it's a character from Macbeth and Hudson is like Oh my God Macbeth. macduff yes. That is someone I know but not my friend. A Dick and Then, Jeff pulls out a phonebook. Liz. Do you remember phone books? Are you too young I? Mean they still drop those off I just got one like last week or two weeks ago and I was like this is going directly into the recycling. Why the fuck would I need a book? Yeah I'd joke is you're a baby? You're a literal baby. Years younger than you baby. The Fuck Outta here gargoyles right that Shit. have. Addresses listed to like I. Know like if you looked up numbers, you can find that but I don't remember phonebook. I remember there the addresses for like businesses, but I don't remember the addresses for humans. That's real creepy. It does seem weird that a point you could just look through a huge directory, find a random name and person's phone number and address like that's weird. Dead. Okay. So that brings me to my next point Liz. Why is a literal castle listed in the fucking phone book big Mac who may be a time traveler or fucking ancient man why is he even under a false name in the phone book? What is a castle? Have an address what? Okay. Jeffrey Robin looks in the phone book for Lennox macduff and finds the address of the tasks. Why hadn't macbeth made himself unlisted also that means it's listed as a residence. This castle in I'm assuming New York City and Secondary Castle. BECO- Castle. Listed in the white pages and it has. Three to four one fuck off I'm rich lane like it's got. Okay Jeff finds when x McDonald's dress in the white pages. It's a fucking castle. Let's go to their. Hey, let's do that. Oh God angry sweating. This isn't even hot angry. Broadway still all chained up big MAC is searching through his own grim grumbler orcre. We'll, and then he had the big. Pot. A cauldron culture. I'm trying to picture. Even pick fucking cauldron. He's fucking Macbeth of course he does. So he's like already do his magic. fucking said that he was going to only keep Broadway hostage until he found the other girl bt Dubs Oh, and he still chained up. All, that shit is happening inside the castle outside the castle. Goliath and the group show up. Yes. Because Owen knows where big MAC lives. Yes. After his first castle burned down, that must mean that deluxe big Mac, hang out I would guess you think they're on the same billionaires bowling team. Yes. Okay. Hudson shows up yet to Oh. Yeah. He just plops down like we're the fucking Yuban. Rodway. How did Hudson navigate his way too big MACs castle. He can't read street signs. We know he can. He was given an address, which means you have to be able to know directions. How did he do that from the Sky Mapquest can't read It was just established. All right up he shows up I'm. I was into this episode until this ending sequences like this is the beginning of falling apart for me. Like how the fuck that everyone did this castle yeah. We're making reading very important and the fact that Hudson cannot do it. He can't read a map and he can't read street signs. How did he get to this castle? Okay I said. I'm moving on. Moving. So big Mac makes himself little cocktail. Day He's gotTa, she has to have a scotch? And the goons and he's just like figuring it out to his goons and they run off to make these big laser guns appear Cheyenne fucking laser cannons. Damn Dude what are you expecting to happen here? I mean this I guess, but he was literally expecting to be attacked from the sky. Knows what's up? So quick what the fuck is it with people and when they're fighting like whether it's at waiver or whether it's at his castle here, win the people are fighting there just have no sense of the building or structures around them like they. GonNa fucking blast everything and if it hits golden great do you think he's mad that his goons are destroying his backup castle? Does he have a backup backup? Yes, he does if I had employees and they behave, this way would be so upset Oh and they'd be fired boy. I'll tell you what from a cannon. Laser cannon. Okay the gargoyles are taking out this episodes goon squad and you know they do with Gargoyles do this is not really what it's about. So like it's an easy fight to yeah, nothing big. We see the destruction of another ancient castle and at the same time down blow big Mac gets the scrolls open. Yes. Because I guess you needed to spell don't even know they just gloss right over why you can't just open the. He's just got to find a way in this other book to open this whatever he starts reading and it's like a fucking practical joke. Let's have a listen to this. It's hilarious. Skopje only boy when I I saw this once and future? King. Had I not known what his destiny held. I would have laughed aloud. What's this though young not yet formed his mind was open and eager to let this diary. Fox like Oh Merlin in his diary. It was nothing nothing at all I mean it's great history if that's what you're into. Magic while big. Mac is big Histov. Goliath makes the best entrance of the show so far. Just fucking drops in like a bullet drop kicks big Mac in the chest and like. Yeah and then he's like. He's like I understand reading I enjoy reading I'm, GONNA burn these fucking things fuck you what's going on here I don't even know. Big Like I mean whatever do whatever you want. I don't want it and then. Everything just goes weird I'm telling you this inning fell apart as soon as we got everyone got to the castle. So yeah, like both Hudson Broadway, we're like, don't do it. Don't do it. Let. So important like the history there that is someone who is actually they're telling their story it's important. And he's. Like. What is happening? All ends with big MAC. Get the fuck off my lawn. Yeah. What do be a fight? They're they're not gonna I'm done. You can keep it I want it get out his Broadway on anyone anymore I'm over it get out and they leave not like, no we need to do something about you know Madonna. Okay. So we're not fighting and no I don't WanNA fight just. Just, you know what man? And that's the scene. So you know in the sky hotson admits so he can't read and was like, Hey, buddy like if this is important, I will read the schools to you. Before we reach you motherfucker I'll read them to you before we donate them back to the museum and Hudson and Broadway like no well, read it ourselves as Waylon, how I don't know why he's Algorithms. Like. Suddenly, and then we're back. To. Jeff. And Jeff just gives us this very dramatic monologue about reading and how transports us to different places and it's very important and it is the lighthouse in the darkness something something something wasn't even paying attention as point. I'm like all we're done. Okay. I. Mean he he literally Says Books The lighthouses erected in the Dark Sea of time. I love reading and I was like what the fuck is. This I like books in ship shut up nerd. So. Our very last bit is Jeffrey in his house and the stuff about scrolls that he's been reading. Merlin Scrolls. Kinda gotten him his mind grapes juice and he's thinks he might have another book at him. So he he starts to write a book and they made it. They really made it sound like that. He writes like King. Arthur fiction. Yeah. So That's the end of the episode I guess we will go to. A. Hey there listeners are you into Alpha Male, bad ass leading ladies and happily ever after then checkout another great calamity cast podcast Dick the week where I chat with my co host. But everything we love in sometimes about both writing and reading romance novels. So grab a glass of wine get comfortable, and let's get down and dirty about romance. FIND IT ON CALAMITY CAST DOT com wherever you find your podcast. Liz We're. Back. We just finished discussing a lighthouse in the Sea of time yet. Did you like this one? The deal hurt me mostly? Yes. Actually like overall I enjoyed it and I, think there was aspects of that I think will be to really cool things. I feel like, I. Sing this song every single time like they didn't give enough like I feel like they're hinting at things like I still don't fuck you know what's going on with Macbeth and who he is and I do agree with you that the ending just kind of was weird and fell flat or something like i. don't even know like we were ramping up tall this cool Chin and then he was like fucking get out by and that seemed real weird and I'm also suspicious of that I also feel like there's more to the scrolls a journal data. Yeah. Like he didn't read very far. No, and there's two of them and he only looked at the little bit of the first. Paragraph of the first one is like I don't want this. Not GonNa just double check the rest of it. Great. Okay. I kind of share the sentiment. Exactly. Like I said, when we get to Macbeth's castle at the end, it is a mess. Yeah and I'm just glad that it's only like four minutes of mess. Obviously victim. After school special aspect of reading what is reading is important. No one is arguing that except for Broadway I guess, but even he is turned at the end. And Jeffrey didn't really seem that important other than to. House. Hudson who? Could've just gone into the sewers it didn't have to. I just want to touch more on the authority and Legend stuff which is finally into play like I knew came in eventually. Here it is. So that's cool. Hopefully, we start to get more focus on that. And I? I really am excited to see how the King Arthur stuff plays out in the end. To if they don't fuck him put Macbeth and Dimona in an episode together, we'll burn it down relatively soon. Shit's going. Go back in. Time. Find Him. Working on machine. Do I kill baby. Hitler or do I go yelled the. Ivanhoe Finder. Apparently in this scenario, the time machine is east. Listen I didn't. Out. Well. Well, well, folks we've made it to the end of another defenders of eight. I suppose we should think a gallon and his gase farts creating the interstitial music her throughout the show. 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Episode 217:  Just To Raise A Fool

Defenders Of The Night

58:44 min | 6 d ago

Episode 217: Just To Raise A Fool

"School think we are defenders of the night. Be most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favourite mid-nineties animated program. Gargoyles i am your host daniel williams and i am here other host eliza circle liz today. I thought we talk about gargoyles season two episodes seventeen. That's a high number double jeopardy. Ooh this season is weird. Liz because technically it goes up to like fifty two episodes. At least it's not disney plus says that's what wikipedia says two but the third season is another thirteen. So i mean. I guess we'll do it that way. It seems odd. It seems really weird. Well we'll get there when we get there. This episode double jeopardy aired november. Sixth nineteen ninety five. This episode was directed by king of the gargoyles ring. Frank par he is all over this season and it was written by cary bates who is back again. You know last week was good but you know he's got some stinkers like they all do. Sorry cary bates. it's true. Mean he didn't like this one you know i don't know i. I kept falling asleep while watching this episode liz. The past few weeks have been exhausting. Oh yeah i can imagine so literally just sitting on my couch just dozing kept having to get up and just walk around to wake myself up on no. That's not a good sign. I don't place the blame on the episode though. I think this one was a okay. Okay cool well before we again. Our normal Please rate review and do your thing if you like as yeah we assume you like us. This is like our thirtieth episodes so it would be weird. If you're listening in hated us. Yeah but rate review. Hi five your friends and say hey. Check out this podcast definitive night. It's pretty awesome liz. I wonder if the listeners can tell. I didn't script anything for this now. Just makes it all the better. It makes it all the something. Liz yeah castle live. And that's where we're headed at the beginning of this episode and we're going to the past yes so long ago we're going one year ago do you remember. Can you fathom such a leap back in time and it's the shortest leap in time that we've ever done this show so dream boating goliath or discussing leaving the castle. You remember. When they used to live at the castle the gargoyles feels like a lifetime. Ago does deluxe was still in prison at this point remote. She wants the pros to find a new home. But liz something's different this time around. Yeah do you remember a fucking robo goal attacking during the middle of his arguments. You know what. I was trying to think back. And i really don't like i think they change the past to make the storyline work. Yeah this didn't happen. No we're rewriting history here but you know what fine so this robo goal attacks goliath and gets a little scratchy scratch on his arm. This guy is in a storage closet for robots and he wakes up. And i guess he hears dream. Bow and goliath. Just having their conversation through various stonewalls robots have very good hearing yes and instead of opening the door and going up the stairs and attacking the normal way this robot just crashes right through the ceiling of the storage room out of the building and into the courtyard. Do you think that deluxe programmed it to attack that way like do you think he's just trying to keep his masons working what i have. No idea grow just a little over zealous. I don't know just wanted to impress. I mean i would assume that he programmed that way and then like owen like launched it or something like l. or pressed the button. Yeah i i don't know needlessly destructive robots. Yeah is he just trying to show up for the bosses. He going for that robot promotion. What what's okay. You know what it seems like a weird way to to your boss is destroying his building just so excited to do a good job. That's true so like you said. This robot attacks goliath. And i hope he didn't go into this attack thinking that he was going to survive because this robot has his head crushed under goliaths foot pretty quickly yep glad does not give a fuck about destroying robots no. It's fine but like you said he's been wounded dream. Says oh no. You've been wounded. He was scratched on the arm. Yeah like i have more scripture. My fucking cats the liz. You wanted how. She was a very dramatic here dramatic. I was not worried personally. No you know who was super so worried. The most worried owen. He comes running out to tend to glides horrible awful life threatening wounds because as dreamcoat puts it. You don't wanna take any chances staring at both of them like what the fuck is wrong with you. Two guys later. it's fine. everything's fine. I just went to state that right here in my notes. I said feel like this. Something like a way to collect dna. Yeah i was sitting there like a wet wash cloth and maybe abandoned and then everyone can just shut up like what are we doing here. Well from there. We go back to the present time. Yeah in it's pouring rain liz. The promising ended with torrential downpour. And i thought that was going to be significant and it was just a fancy way to do a scene transition. I was like oh okay i mean fine. But i was like whoa. This is heavy rain and it never came up again. Was like oh. Something's going to happen in the rain. It's going to be significant and it wasn't no it just got us back to that wind. Es highway yeah. Now they're trying to push this thing. God damn thing motherfuckers to episodes in a row. Does that make this thing. Yeah so it's pouring down. Rain dream about is driving like a fucking maniac on these windy wet roads not say meanwhile above her is broadway and lexington flying this rain. Yeah they're heading to the power plant quote unquote because an anonymous call to the police precincts said it was going to explode. How is this detectives job. Detectives are supposed to solve crimes. Right prevent that crime from occurring and new york city have the task force to take care of that. Yeah a swat team or spec ops the bomb squad anything now just one detective one detective in her dragon dudes these three are heading to their eventual deaths because if a power plants can explode what the fuck are they going to stop it and they're attacked from above it hits hard hit. Some fast and is quick. Is this whatever comes. It's gone man and liz. You mentioned how dangerous it is to drive on this road. Dream boat is staring at the microphone on the lapel jacket s. She's talking to the dude like what happened. What's going on up there. She's looking at it. The roads are wendy. the roads are slick. She's driving fast. She's now danielle. You're kind of an expert. When it comes to microphones does not have to stare at the lapel. Microphone for it to work properly. Not only does not need to stare at a lapel microphone. Liz i'm gonna drop a little bit of insider knowledge on you here. You don't need to look any microphone to use it properly off captain pod casting wrong. I just have all the notes memories. I don't actually look at any of the notes. I just stare. At the microphone i glued some googly eyes to my microphone so i can make eye contact with the time because i don't want it to be weird. I want to know that the microphone. And i are locked into this conversation. I really wanna point googly eyes on your pop filter dream boat just decides to pull over because she nearly drives off the cliff for the second week in a row and she stands in the middle of the fucking road again over rainstorm barely visible to any passersby and all three get a look at their attacker. Go lie at least looks like elias of it. Sounds like him not to be fair. At this point i was like. Oh actually goliath. I was thinking deluxe has his robot oils. All look like glass. Yeah but he lets out a laugh. Yes he lets out a laugh like a very evil maniacal laugh. Baja ailing it and from there. We go to a gym new deck. You members new tech right yes. It's been a while since we've been here since dr mr salacious. Various disappeared or turned into a puddle of water depending on who you ask. Yeah now he is in the middle of paying some kind of green goon fifty thousand dollars to do a thing during daylight and that sat their behalf to the clock tower. Lex and dream boat are telling hudson what happened and hudson's like that doesn't sound like goliath but bradley's mad about it to tell that he honestly thinks goliath tried to attack them. Even though you guys deal with fucked up weird shit all the time. Like why is your go-to like oh. Why did he do that. Really buddy come on right. He's practically your dad. Maybe give him a little faith now. For some reason goliath in brooklyn are still out on patrol even though the sun is nearly up yep which i felt like people should be more concerned about that. That's not very much like them. They never acknowledged that later on when they are talking to the two of them. They're never like oh yeah. This crazy thing went down. That's why we had to seek shelter elsewhere. They're just ignore the fact that they're senior. They never don't come home unless something really bad has happened. We've never seen them just. I don't know lose track of time. They a couple of movies you know. Do they go for like a double feature that. Like oh fuck. They were in the movie theater when they turned the statue. That'd be so weird. They didn't come home so that's unusual but no one's worried about it. And i was like. Hey guys shouldn't dream go and look for them but now they don't care cares okay so from there we end up at castle vern and we see eliason sleeping there at the castle but whereas brooklyn lists. I don't know what's going on here. Man i know and deluxe and owen seem really happy. That goliath is there. Yeah they said something about him liking seeing them up there again or missing him having been up there. I don't know yeah. Like i said i cut dozen. I do remember them talking about very important. Business stuff yeah. Futures stocks trades. I dunno and then off in the distance helicopter approaches. And you know it's not fox because deluxe is not in the helicopter right this fucking goons that we saw genentech yeah. The green suits. Yeah to kidnap. Poor baby boy goliath which they do without any resistance which is also we like. I didn't understand. I mean to lexington upset about this but he didn't really do anything to try to stop it like owen at least hit the secret rock to pull out a hidden gun but deluxe is like no no no you run the risk of shooting glides. I can't have that stand watching all happen. Like a bunch of fucking cooks. Yeah they just wanted to. It was weird very unlike deluxe to just like lay back and let it happen indeed hoodwink. He doesn't know who did this. He generally does not understand. What's happening or why it's happening. Who is to blame. But who boy. Whoever it is when he finds out he's gonna put a boot or ass. Big robo gargoyles boo. And you know there's nothing that elects hates more than being out of the loop. He likes the know all the things all the time and then we go back to the clock tower. Were bouncing around. Were jumping up and down. This time. goliath in brooklyn. They're heading back. They're flying in so. That definitely wasn't goliath that we saw being kidnapped. Maybe deluxe just missed him so much that he had a regular statue commissioned that would be hilarious and not the first time that they've done that just missed seeing him up there. She made me feel safe. Oh that would be so funny. The adorable he missed his buddy. 'cause they're friendlier now they're frenemies. Yeah they're total frenemies. So this is a real mystery. We got here. Yeah brooklyn was like nah guys. He was with me the entire fucking time. Yeah inside the clock tower. There explaining to goliath the whole situation. And he's like guys. Why would you think that's me. I would never attack you. I hate practical jokes. And hudson hits us with a really great that i would like to play is new. You know how to laugh. Maniacally to that question. I would like to follow up with. Does goliath even know how to laugh. Have we ever heard him laugh. Not that i can remember. You know we've seen him be happy but not jovial. Yeah maybe like a slight hint of chuckle. A smile perhaps but not a hearty laugh now indefinitely on evil laugh though. He doesn't have an evil bone in his body. So like you said brooklyn and glide. They were in midtown all night so that brings me back to the question. What were they getting into. The kept them from coming home. What do you think liz. What could it have been. I think brooklyn stolen other motorcycle and spent The entire time that they're supposed to be patrolling trying to convince goliath that he wants the ride and teach them how to ride on. It's fun so from there. We moved to an oil rig on know our our oil rigs typically that close to the shore that you could take a rowboat out to them. I feel like no The only time i've ever been around it oilrig was like way way off shore in gulf shores and like nowhere near the area of the ocean that you play in so feeling. This is weirdly close because if something happened there and it was that close. You'd cover everyone with oil yet again. Are there any oil rigs around new york city totally. They call new york city the oil capital of the northern hemisphere. Ou learn something new every day. I mean you don't need to look that up. Because i would never lie. I trust you. That's fine good. I mean everyone should just trust me. I'm very trustworthy. All right. so this oil rig which should not be there. We're following a helicopter as it flies out and the green suited goons. They're making their way to deliver this statue to dr snipe. The weird thing is though liz the doctor snaps. Come out with a tranquilizer gun. Yeah and that confuses these goons. What would you need a drink for a statue. it's is made a stone. What do we what the fuck are we doing here. They quickly learn. the not. Goliath goliath gets out of the box that he's in. Yeah he punches through this metal crate. Of course he does. This is no regular goliath. Liz this is some kind of white haired. Red eyed veal goliath and we get intrigue to an ad. Is it so spooky. Hey there listeners. Into alpha male bad ass leading ladies and happily ever after the check out another great calamity cast podcast dick the week where i chat with my other two co host but everything we love in sometimes hate about both writing and reading romance novels so grab a glass of wine get comfortable and let's get down and dirty romance find calamity half dot com or wherever you find your podcast and we are thank you for following up with a a spooky returned from ad that way. I don't feel stupid. I gotcha back where it up so now. We're back on the windy side highway. Yep then we can see the oil rating in the distant. I'm pretty sure we could not see that oil rig before no of course not indefinitely not last week. No although i guess theoretically last week could have been a different part of the coast. It looks exactly the same well. We dream about goliath. Lexington and broadway all trying to scoop out with attack last night. Yeah and they find a asja. New tech tracking device conveniently just left in the dirt and immediately lexington's like shiny tech genetic engineering fat. It's dr snap if he's involved. You better believe you know who was involved to it still ex. Yeah in case. You didn't deluxe owns that business. Yeah although i still feel like it'd be better if deluxe had nothing to do with these genetic plots but whatever this one that's kinda sort of accurate kinda sort of glide sins the to brogue oils off to the genetic lab to hunt for clues. Which broadway is all about being a private detective at all. Do you think he grabs his fedora. I i think that he regrets not bringing it but no he doesn't go back to the clock tower but he's like i really wish it really helps me hunt for clues better. A better. s- luther. When i have my cat i got the full get up. I can solve any crime. Where's matt. I need a steal his coach. Or he's at You know the luminosity headquarters now being illuminated Illuminata is louie illuminated. Whatever who cares. Meanwhile you know are two love birds. They're going to pay all big daddy deluxe visit so we gotta castle laverne and we are in his office. One deluxe xanadu to sits there staring at a ringing. Phone insert himself. He had to wait for someone to go. Get phone is on his desk. The desk sitting at not even lean over. Just hickey. Right up just extend your arm but you got this. I believe in you. But no owens got across the room and he answers the phone because that's what a man servant does. Liz need one of those. The call that apparently deluxe deluxe has been waiting for this call and he doesn't pick up the fucking phone himself that sometimes i just can't with him. He was waiting for this call because he knew that the statue was going to be ransomed. Why was why. Why did he think anyone was gonna right. I mean unless it's someone on the inside to the outside. I i mean it's just a statue and or regular goliath. Yeah and if it's someone on the inside how did you know that they were gonna call specifically to ransom the gargoyles. Probably because he's a billionaire. He's like i'm ransomed every day. Just got to be something at least three times a week. People are calling me for ransoms. Yeah so here's the deal is deluxe needs to bring twenty million dollars to this oil rig or he's gonna lose his most prized specimen and. I hate to break to you kidnapper. Guy who certainly doesn't sound like doctor's name but deluxe most prized specimen is the very first semen sample. He froze after becoming a billionaire. Everyone knows that fuck. It was written about in fortune magazine. We we all know that god. He covered in the wall street journal monthly. I don't know why that's gross. What's the status of the frozen sperm stills frozen awesome still come sickle. Oh oh no yuk you. Would you put a little popsicle. You know what okay all right. So they are both boo boo boo boo. Boohooing over the fact that the phone call didn't last three more seconds because had it could have traced it. Yeah i mean that's always a complaint you know just lasting three more seconds anyway so then then owen. Could maybe lucked out its location. But they know scale oil rig but anyway they're able to find out some information so let's take a listen. Although there wasn't enough time to trace the call. I've uncovered a certain. Large consortium which secretly hold the lease on the black rock point. Oil rig cyber -biotics santos enterprises. I wish i could say i'm surprised. Savarese it has to be now. They all know dr snaps up to something. How did they not recognize his voice. Even when it was pitched down. I was like that's very obviously doctor's name. He's the only other person that knew about the failed project and we all know all about the fail log project right. It's that Secret one any you know. We don't need to get into it here. We'll talk about it later. You know it's a real shame that doctors had to pull some bullshit like this because now deluxe is gonna fucking murder him. Yeah he turns into like mob boss right ear. What did he say. It's a shame to lose an asset like a mind like his or something something like that. It was so threatening. I thought that he was specifically going to tear dr snaps brain out okay. Jeez and then he says an example must be made to whom i guess the rest of his workers. Is he going to go. Round with dr snaps corpse and be like look what i did. This is what happens to those who cross me. Yes he's going to put his head on a spike out in front of his castle. Like i want to be able to see it. His castle four miles. I don't know let's find out. We should probably keep going. Yes so going to. Jenny tech labs where broadway and lexington are trying china. Do their sleuthing try and promise that this'll be the last time i bring up. Shit like this but broadway rips a single metal panel off the roof to gain immediate access into an office below which makes zero sense. So liz in your basement. I'm in my basement. If you go upstairs to the main floor your house and you look up. Is it just a single metal panel between you and the sky above. No that'd be the worst installation ever. I hate the stupid shit. But i'm done harping on it until next time it happened. I'm going to try and make it the last time. Everyone that listens to our show knows how stupid i think that is. But you know what. I'm not tired of harping on. Liz is how lex is so great with computers. I will always bring that up he hacks the system on a computer those in the office and i mean what he really does he just does a search. He does a word search. Yeah because he initially. He's like oh the database to big. I need to somehow narrow it down. And then he's like. I know to do c. l. o. n. e. Yeah i know Command f. Clone with with the single single word search lexington is able to find all of the exact information that he's after because genetech only did one cloning project. One thing that have many to lead up to this one we nailed it. I try. that's really convenient. It is really convenient so we get to watch videos. Yeah we're gonna play these videos. But i just wanna say a doctor's name Has no word documents for his cloning project. all videos also very convenient who needs digital journals. Who will just speaking to my camera. All right let's check these out. Owen reports goliath never suspect that the row robot which caused his injury was activated for one purpose. The extraction of living cells on pulse enough to facilitate a successful cloning procedure. All data indicates my accelerated growth. Process is over writing the normally slow ageing read the only side effect seems to be an skin and have pigmentation. New data indicates the clone has reached full gargoyles leci- in a man nine weeks. The artificial maturation rate has been augmented by an ongoing subliminal education program. Personally designed by mr sound toss to teach his own unique slant on things okay lizzy knows what else is funny. All black and white. He couldn't afford the colored cameras. Yeah i can't even begin to understand this but we do find out. That deluxe is part of this which we kind of knew before. But like we see that they're working together with this clone. Yeah the attack. From the beginning of this episode was a complete setup and what i thought would have been really cool is if this had actually been set up way back and season one we got to see it and the story was like a really slow burn. You know that'd be cool. They just rewrote history instead. Which you know you gotta do what you gotta do. 'em assuming then that they are the ones that called in the potential explosion. Yeah that's a good question because we never go back to it. How would he know where they are. Maybe fake goliath was just out joyriding. Maybe that is a very interesting question because if that was an actual incident. Did anyone ever take care of it. Did that power plant exploded. It seems like such an important thing to just ignore for the rest of the episode. Yeah ok guys. That's definitely a choice. Boy i hope that power plant was okay liz. We go to a hill. Goliath and dream cassia. See a man in a boat wink. That's right. I made that reference very adult like of me. This man in a boat is approaching. The seemingly derelict oilrig which is now in the background of almost every shot in a step aside like hey the stents totally been here the whole time i would put it in every frame. So now we're on the oil rig. That man was deluxe. He's delivering the twenty million ransom to dr snake snake. He opens the case. He diligently is counting every single bill. He didn't even know that they were ten thousand dollar bills. Who is very excited and deluxe does one of those sexy pulling off the trench coat moves taken off daddy to show his. You know slim down robo suit underneath. He's not naked. He's part robot. Yeah although if he's part robot maybe he is naked so he has to sit on because he he is angry. Deluxe right now. He is very very angry. I don't think we've ever seen deluxe this angry before. No i guess it's like no big deal if like an enemy does something to him. He's got whatever expected. But i think he like demands loyalty and respect from people that he employees in the fact that someone is doing this to him. He can't handle it. Yeah and it doesn't even understand. Why like i treat you. Well man. we do. All kinds of weird sci shit together. This is how you act. I'm going to have to tear that head off. I actually really liked this because he is going on and on. We see goliath and dream. Boat swooping in but they're like what site and see what happens. Let's go over here. You'll kill deluxe lexus. Still like i'm not by nature vengeful man which made me chuckle. Like really really deluxe. You're not vengeful. But he's going on and on and snakes like body what what are you doing. We do in the bit okay. I'll play all right. Oh no you owe me. Why can't believe you cut me in this deception. Did i do the job fucking dogs like. I don't know what's happening right now. So he goes rage failed hopelessly give. You honestly might be my own. My favorite little bits of deluxe in this whole show seen him go from one extreme emotion to being like what is happening. Dr shapes us west. Oh i'll play along and then alexa confused. He starts whispering long. What are you doing. What are you doing to actually kill you. Why are we whispering. Well i just. I thought someone was watching. Who would be watching what is happening. It's like really fucked up like who's on first kind of like you know what's great about the scene other than all. That shit was goliath and dream boat. Just let's go and see how this plays out like. They don't want to intervene. No want to do anything. Like i want to see. Kills him on We're going to go inside. But let's see if he kills us. Dude i but what. I thought was weird. Was that dream out immediately. Recognized dr snake but he was presumed dead in the last episode by the police. Right i thought so or missing and also he looks like thirty years younger. Okay so i remember him being really old initially right he was an old man and then i think by the end of that episode. He was young. Does he look even younger than that. Young version i think yes and also dream. Boat never saw him as a young man. That's really weird them and this is all going down at a distance. they're flying. how the fuck does she realizes it. This is dr snake. I honestly think that goliath was like. Nah let's wait. Because he's like ashes. Wanna keep holding you in my arms. Liz okay one. More thing about dr snake before we move on. They'd never explained that reverse ageing. Did they know that. Never fucking comes up. Was he wearing old man makeup. I have no idea that is weird. Maybe he was testing the genetic himself. Somehow who needs vo talks when you can play with science like this. Maybe this is where the aluminum body health serum comes from google. Mind explosion thing faint about it. Back to deluxe and snob hinted at it in our scene there but snake was under the impression that he and deluxe were in cahoots like they were working towards the same goal and again delays doesn't know what the fuck is named is talking about and not knowing something just really gets under his skin he hates is used to knowing all of the things. Yeah he's the one plotting all the things. A plot against deluxe deluxe doesn't know about and just let happen because he's bored. I guess no good That's bad news bears. So that's going on though goliath and dream boat here. Gargoyles shouts coming from inside the oil tank. It's fail log ya liz. About what point in the show. Did you realize that failure is basically goliath backwards. Pretty much here. I don't think. I what if i didn't have the subtitles on though. Yeah it was briefly. On the screen in virginia tech. And i'm like wow you guys just didn't go for. It is not a log. Yeah i mean that'd be very difficult to say if you like gaelic there you go. It's gaelic h. A. i. l. o. g. spells frank. I thought it was kind of clever though. They'll log. Yeah that's kinda clever kinda. This is win goliath. in dream mbo are caught up. On what lex and broadway found out in the previous scene yeah fe. Luxury clone dont want Glide is not happy about it and know he'd like I did not consent to having a son. The kept calling him his son and i had a real problem with that because he's genetically identical. That would make him a twin. Yeah and i guess his in his brain he's like he's made from a piece of me. I say brother not son will. Yeah because he even calls him father. I was like oh. This is weird. That made me feel weirder than sun. Thing yeah. I think that he did that. Because of what goliath said though you know he said that in response so okay at glide is very upset because deluxe stole his home and now he's stolen a part of my solar taken my soul piece by piece. That confused me even more than calling him son. They took your flesh. Edna the not take your soul like it was a dumb thing to say like everyone else in the room had been No no that's not what he did. Goliath is upset. He calls they log and abomination sir. What's your language because some people would call all gargoyles that and that's not cool. Yeah he's gargling. Ill like your dog oil man. Y'all gargle l. and dreams like okay. Fine you have every right to be angry totally understandable but that is not they log fault and you will not call him in a nation. She didn't say that part but she should have. She didn't say that but she did say you can't blame this on him. You can't take this out on him. This alexis fault not they logs and she's the first when the column goliath son and i. It's that's weird. Nope that is true. I wonder if he would've thought of him. That way of dreamcoat hadn't put that idea in his head. Yeah she just wants to have his baby and it's like well. This is the closest we're going to give their sudden no 'cause he's totally fucking evil. Yeah he is just supremely and nationally evil. He pulls a mean trick here. His shackles worn even locked. How dare you pull such shenanigans. You know how. I feel about practical jokes. Yeah and he then jumps goliath and put the gas mask him. That knocks him unconscious. He's using that science gas and then lets out that evil laugh to an ad break. Ha ha ha ha ha excel after tragedy strikes nicely to come back to the group unites. Don't what up man to celebrate the life of a friend tank back seat until some thing happens now. They're struggling to survive in a world. They don't understand group as they failed for time in space in an epic podcasts from the calamity cast network dice been some strides to it beginners guy to interplanetary destruction. That's what i'm calling my penis as of eight seconds ago he. I'd just laughed at the whole ad break jan and was really weird and unnerving. Liz was trying to just have a normal conversation with me on our break. And i wouldn't have some of the most unnerving an evil. After i've ever produced are still oil rig. Deluxe makes it clear to snap that. He has no fucking idea what he's talking about and what's going on. He did not plan this. But you did you send me electronic mail directly from deluxe xanadu at angel. Fire dot com. Do they give out email addresses. I don't know who's like you set this all up and ducks like no. I fucking didn't and they're like well. Who else knew about that. They log project and the fox. The knowin- and deluxe shut that down. Yeah you know what though. I wouldn't put it past fox for sure. I was really hoping it was a win because we were talking the other couple episodes ago about how it seemed like owen was going to start turning on deluxe. What was happening. it's happening. Oh he's on deluxe. He turns him on all the time. Oh yeah he does. But that's what i meant. Oh ha all right. But i think it would have been fun if it was fox just because she clearly dislikes to fuck with the dudes in her life to like shared he went after daddy. Why not go after a daddy. Yeah that was biological father and sexual partner. Yeah that's why it's weird liz. That's why it's weird. You gave them the same name. You see this very curious because it's no one that they know you know. Yeah and this is win the twist comes. Liz were pretty late in the episode. But twist they log attacks deluxe. Ooh he attached some kind of jockey. Ironman arc reactor to deluxe his chest and it shuts down as suit and it knocks him unconscious. Yup poor deluxe He didn't see it coming. He really didn't that's got really pissed him off. I like it when shit surprises deluxe because more often than not even. If he's acting like he's surprised that the ha this was my plan all along when he comes to he and the rest of our human friends and now goliath they're all chained up in that oil tank thing. But why if you wanted an allowance old daddy xanadu would given a you buddy. All you gotta do is ask. But it's more than just that as they got some plans. Let's listen to those plans if you really expect me to spend my life being your student the duct this private guinea pig. You didn't go to all this trouble just to raise a full all right well. He has plans we. He doesn't need to tell us his plans but whatever they are apparently pretty expensive right and he needs the money to make it happen. Whatever it is. God what are his twenty million dollar plans nape is like what are you gonna do. Go to the bank and deposit that like. You're a dragon. I literally said that beats before he said this is why you don't have kids. They're always talking back and stealing your money and making you look dumb and leaving you to diana an oil rig stales oldest time. Good thing we're landlocked and there's no Around us our larry's you'd be in trouble. They log though is like oh well i pulled off. This plan did an i surely can figure out the money thing that you guys are supposed to be pretty smart and i managed to trick. All of. you shouldn't be too hard. I'll get a pay pal account. Give us van mo- idiot. Well and then goliath goliath obviously is like gotta talk some sense into my boy and he's like don't pull off this evil shit be a good gargoyles. Come join our clan. Live with is be with us. I'll be great. I love you. Know man log ain't about that whole defenders of the night life so instead. He just decides to hate. Goliath is like Listen i i thought about it. I considered it i- i- molded over. And i even considered giving you some of this money but How about instead. Fuck you know real reason. He got like a really weird. He's like i was going to include you buddy. But now i hate you. What cost that switch. why failing. Because i've made the conscious decision to do so that's why sus shut up. Yeah and then he turns to dream. Boat inserts like touching her. i like. I'm so sorry beautiful. You weren't supposed to be here. You weren't supposed to be part of this. I'm so sorry wrong. Time baby. But i love you. You're giving me hard on just like you give dad. Oh god what a. You're just making some awful connections here yet. Just said previously that they log is like their son. Do you write crappy porn in your spare time. Is that what are you doing. A stepson porn. Right now Now i'm not. But i was really creeped out with how he was talking and touching her like regardless of the the one that associated her as they lugs. Mom daylight didn't say that that was you. You made it weird. They also made it weird. Mommy just want a stroke. Various parts of you come here mother. That's you've got that. Oedipus complex no. That's you are projecting projecting weird things we got to move on from this bit. I'm pushing us forward to fail. August killing everyone. Now i don't want to talk about this anymore. He's gonna kill everyone but nape didn't realize that at the time fucking eightieth for being a genius. Yeah like okay time for you all to die staples like wait a minute. Wait a minute. What's teamed up in this container. You just gotta let me go. What did he think was going to happen. Was gonna leave them chained up and then he was going gonna like ring owen and say hey. I've chained them all up You might wanna go pick them. They're in an oil tank. What why is this smart guy so fucking dumb. I feel like delilah just staring at him like. Are you fucking kidding me right now. We're all looking at him. Like buddy get with the program. Okay so i assumed failings planned was to flood this tank with two hundred gallons of oil that he found just up above. 'cause he's like oh i'd already been here before i know there's still oil yeah. He mentioned that oil he was leaving him chained up and he's got a flare gun. He's going to use to ignite the oil burning down the oil rig. Now i feel like choose one or the other because two forms of murder in the same. I think crazy unless he wants to get rid of the evidence. Nobody's burn up. Maybe i mean. I ended up being wrong about that anyway. So none of that matters but i really was like. Wouldn't it be gruesome to flood this tank that they're in with crude oil so they're like oh we're all gonna fucking die. That's great. I mean so dream. Boat starts doing her thing in slips out of her wrist custom the shackles shackled shekel. That she's in she gets out of it. And that's why kerry. Why did you write the worst dialogue in creepy ass. Shit in this episode. Because he doesn't like women because I love me some delicate wrist. Yeah i love a woman with delicate wrists. Okay one gross. Obviously that is totally gross to. What does that mean three. You're married man. Well you know fox. She's got those bulky wrists. I love fox and we're genetically compatible but she's got such fiqh risks. I don't like what not telecasted. Mike ers law. She doesn't have little bird bones like you like what anyway. So she's trying to figure out how to save the rest of them. I wouldn't know saved goliath and been done with it but glide. She's got a new goliath out. There she can change true but goliaths because of the gas that he was knocked unconscious with is lacking strength. So he can't do his normal rip through the chains move. He doesn't the past luckily liz. That's where we cue chekhov's magnetic electrical disk the device that knocked out deluxe suit. If it has enough of a charge can just stunned. The fuck outta goliath. I guess the which is a good thing in this case the other like if we electric jolt him his strength will come back. Yeah i guess they're saying it'll cause a rush of adrenaline to his system but what if it just knocks him unconscious like it did two deluxe right. This is a huge risk. it is but he's like just go ahead and do it. Let's try and then we cut to they log and you just hear the roaring of goliaths in the background and he's like get my temper from what i mean. I am killing these people and he is being left to die of the same things. Yeah equal reactions are required like all right and he needed a good line. That's what it was and it didn't make any sense but that's okay. They get free. I mean the shock works. everybody's fine. of course they are right and this is when i was proven wrong about my assumption that he was gonna flood the tanks because we cut topside. They log is ripping open barrels of oil and his dumping them all over the oil rig and mean that's fine fiery death. whatever. I like my idea better. Because that's a surefire way to kill them all right and you know if he just set everything on fire. They could escape and they knew the humans. I'll run back to the boat. The clydes like no no no. I need some time with my son again. No it's your twin your genetically identical. I need try to reason with him. Because i'm goliath because it worked so very well the first time right. I also like how the humans aren't even for a second like hey. Do you want some help there. Like we gotta fucking go well. So they're having their scuffle in their talk which resulted in the flare gun bean. It seemed like it was a more accidentally shot than purposefully shot. I missed the pulling of the trigger. Just saw the oil being ignited. So i didn't know if fail. Log was taking a shot at goliath in the like during the tussle or if it was accidental 'cause he was holding it when when they began their end of episode tussle quite share their and so of course fire starts. I mean that's the whole point. You know mission success and as it starts growing and growing i think they both realize. Hey maybe we should stop fighting. This seems dangerous for both of us. Now we're not just you goliath and classes like we gotta go. We gotta jump in the water. This is the only way but they log ain't leaving a bag behind. That's still can't get that money. So he goes for the briefcase and being bang boom. There's an explosion and everyone dies by goliath by they log or not so we get to the boat. Yeah we see the explosion happening just like more and more explosions happening too. Many summits and then goliath appears from the water because he had jumped off the side and swam to safety. Yeah liz deluxe hands goliath the tiniest towel that's deluxe sized. How now. I think it's a wash cloth here. Cover yourself up as he does. He delivers this well. I should have known no copy could live up to the original copy. Wasn't living being and we fail to soon deluxe. That was a guy you jerk. Yeah goliath not happy about that. Just to flip in. Yeah i think. Well at this moment lexington and broadway show up and we were like. Hey guys we got it prediction for you. Would we miss. We can give you some information on dialogue. And they're like eah too late guys. We figured it out already. And that really matters anymore. Unless your information as he's fireproof so we end our episode at castle waiver in the next day And in the garden over t. o. N. of all laments the loss of the twenty million dollars but Deluxe isn't so sure that it was quote lost Because fail log is at least as smart as if not smarter than deluxe and deluxe knows for sure that if he weren't they logs points. He would have had multiple contingency plans for escaping oil rig. And liz can you describe the very last shot because it's pretty stupid. So deluxe walks over to the edge of the garden area but like he's just overlooking the vast new york city and he's kind of leaning over just with a worried look on his face and meanwhile oh is saying things like. He's better than goliath. He's smarter than you which. I thought that was hilarious. You made a mistake. Let me read this in your face. This creature smarter than you and elects kind of just sized and goes. Oh and. I think i've created a monster. You're leaving out. The best part luis the best part worthy superimposed falen laughs in the sky. What they've never done anything like that before. Have they know they have not it was weird ghostly visage of falen. So fucking guys. They're lug as evil. I mean they are screaming it in our faces. Yeah i wouldn't say this is dumb episode but that's a dumb way to in this episode. Yeah like i think. I've created a monster. I think that's i mean it's cheesy but i think that's fine just that part because it's like it almost shows a hint of deluxe being like. Oh fuck the decisions. I make have consequences. And i may be went too far this time. I think i'd done goofed. Yeah for real like just keep it there. It's a proper level of cheese that's acceptable. Don't add like ghost style just laughing. Yeah oh and i think i've created a monster by the way the monster is by the way let me show you him to show you how evil he is a good day. We in this episode on cheese. Okay well we in this episode with another ad break. So we'll jack. The gym loving male nurse managed to win the heart of the spunky blue haired web designer maggie. Join us to discover if this unlikely hair will have their happily ever after or fizzle out in the end of season. One is available for your listening enjoyment. Now at glenn dot com or anywhere podcasts. If anyone laughs like that Near you listeners. Just just as run. Hey liz yeah. What did you think of this episode. Famous actually quite enjoyed it. I like deluxe being busted. So i liked that. He was quite honestly confused and didn't know what was happening. And i like but there's someone who can do that to him because no one else could at this point. I think that this should be further. Proof that deluxe doesn't know much about password security on computers. Because how did they log managed to hack his email unless he had a really easy to guess passwords. How did they know how to use computers period. He's not lexington. Well no but he was given an education. That was curated by deluxe. So i have a question about that. What the fuck voiced deluxe teaching him how to be manipulative maniacal. I mean. that's a good question. Because deluxe isn't an evil man not like out now crazy laughter gonna drown you all an oil and set your body's on fire evil right. He support billionaire. Who wants to win. Yeah but fail. August fucking easy you. I liked what they did in this episode. Because they gave us something that i've been asking for for a long time which is a new villain. Why didn't like about it was that they just made an evil goliath. Yeah we just get a new fucking character. Yeah that's true. And i mean i'm assuming that he did escape our masumi this going to be a kind of reoccurring character. I mean they've already got the actor. It's not like they have to pay an extra person come. So was this whole episode written just to get dimona a new man. I mean deluxe seems kind of done with dimona so like purposely like oh well back when he started this though he was still working with dimona. So maybe i'm not saying deluxe did that. I'm saying to writers of gargoyles to maybe a new partner in more than one way some of the most violent sex that you've ever thought of between those two. Yeah that's gotta be what's going to happen right because you know dimona. She likes goliath. Ordered like glass. And this is just an evil goliath. I'm curious though. Because she always likes to be the powerful one and he's more powerful than she is but she also likes smart dudes. He's a smart man yeah. I think that's definitely going to happen. And i don't know if i'm looking forward to it or if i am going to hate it i don't know how to feel you feel like i will enjoy it if it explodes in their face. They log stabs her in the back figuratively or literally either way. Why not both. Why not both. And i guess to end our coverage today. Should we speculate. Why failed is evil. Like why would make him that way specifically did they make him evil or did something happened to him. Does he just like being a bad man. i wonder i don't know like it. Seems like they manipulated his personality totally some degree but i wonder if like they meant him to be like at a six and somehow he got a twelve and they're like oh something went wrong yeah or he became so smart that he realized what these humans were doing and the he decided. No fuck these people. How dare they write and manipulate my brain stuff. I don't see why deluxe of people who want a really really evil gargoyles. You'd think you'd want one that would be willing to do his bidding something. He could control the not this. Why would you make that gargoyles so smart. Would you take orders from you know interesting for now. Hopefully we'll find out pretty soon. We'll see sometimes they make us wait forever. Well thank you for listening to today's episode of defenders. Also thank you to in the yet. Thank you to in the harris wizard. Since potter mcgowan composing are interstitial music. 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Hothouse Children (with Merrin Dungey)

Maybe It's You

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Hothouse Children (with Merrin Dungey)

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So enjoy her the way we do. Maybe they. Maybe. St. what did try to see? Baby. There's nothing better in any situation. Where someone goes like this Ramadan, you wrap it up. The rapid up signal. I. In the podcast. I brought it home with us roundup. That's right wrap it up. Yeah. Yeah. You do like even talking to be like this. Okay copy. I'll be like do you copy in copy? Gosh. Thanks, timmy. I say do you copy. Spotting god. Yeah. Yeah. I know I do I need confirmation. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yes. No, you're not JAT to like handle to like in in re in in grownup relationships. Do you do the same thing it's become a bad habit? But there was someone who got inappropriate on a like a text thing. And they were trying to look profusely apologize for what they had said or done or whatever. And I just cut it with a copy that. And that is that is a door slam. It's very effective. A store years ago that wouldn't somebody who's doing a play with Baldwin? They would he would walk up to them with the back Todd engine go like this pick up the pace. Do the thing where the two fingers go round in a circle pick up the first of the theater. So I think it doesn't happen happened. Real time pick up the pace at you. Opposite you bore. I haven't been inside this body a day. I've been on this planet right outside of it do that when you're on a show in a scene, you'll be like to pick up the pace and mardi boring. Good morning. We'd we'd never. Currently forty. You're always working, which is so exciting screening every time every time we are on television. And it's. I was just by that. Because I saw that you were on his show. And then you had a new show when I was like, what is happening on the resident on FOX. Right. And then my character was fired less season. Okay. And then I went and did big little lies to. Yes. Which is amazing. I can't wait for and that's coming out in March. Right. And then I in the middle of all that got a pilot too. So that's an amazing. Yes. That's good. And then now this other show called the fix which will also come out in the next season. Tell us about the facts really quickly. Give us a quick the fix is a murder mystery of the mind of Marcia Clark, Marcia Clark, Marcia Marcia, by the way, couldn't be sweeter. Which is like something. You would not maybe expect sure. Issues. If you if you're a millennial Marcia Clark was the the prosecuting attorney in the OJ Simpson trial. So. She has a really interesting life. And they did it very the movie that they made about though, J Simpson. Yes. So she's she's producing she wrote. And he was like. Yes. Sure with so excited and Liz, Liz Serafin and Liz crafts and he's saying, yes. And it's going to be out in midseason. It's called on ABC. Anyway. I am a criminal investigator for the district attorney's office, suite. Yes. Okay. So now, you have spent how you've been acting for how many years. Twenty two years twenty two years, and you guys probably remember her as Francey on alias. Yes. We bad France. Oh, and Francy turns bad when France ends up not being Francey, basically. Exactly. But okay. So you had the pleasure of working with some incredible act apposite incredible people. But also have an incredible writers. Do you find that your communication ability and your vernacular skills because of this incredible dialogue, even given her? The last twenty six years, do you find that you have a rich vocabulary to work with when you're communicating your relationships as like a Rolling Stone question? Yeah. Kevin. And I'm like, what am I what is the word? I'm looking for to really describe what I'm trying to say or feel right? But you, but when you have access to even programmed, right? I don't know if it's because of the writing and not to take anything away from the Aaron Sorkin 's that I've worked with and the Jj Abrams on you know. You know? I'm an avid reader, and I've always had like English is my best jam spelling. I mean, my seven year old was talking to her grandparents this morning on FaceTime. And said like, oh, you know, the thing about Halloween is it just makes me paranoid. It's a family. Have lots of language lottery reading lots of. So I don't think it's per se has anything to do with what my finger on the abstraction. But I do know that there is something that befuddles me about the holiday. Good to see you. Color now. Not anywhere near the line. Are you are you are you very clear communicator, then? Say what you mean? I like to say what I mean. Meanwhile, I say and not say mean, I can you say that against lower say what you mean mean what you say. And don't say it mean fucking Amen to that. I did not. That's tremendous. I like that a lot. That that that? I don't utilize it because those leave you with things like I love to get some lunch. That's about all that falls into that category. Well, when you're in a if you're trying to communicate something one of your needs or. Does down inside well can shelter. By. I think this is something that I have learned along the way in my process of communicating and relationships, and that sort of thing is to say what you mean, we say and don't say me because I I can get angry. And I, you know, we all get sure. You know? And it's there is good at it. Yes. And to hold something over somebody's head or two. When you are frustrated with a, you know, a relationship or whatever to there's a way to communicate you what you are feeling without having to berate or belittle or incite once get any to say at one hundred times like that was something I was very big about like trying to let me just I I should have been a lawyer like find another angle to make my point and. What if I put the words in this order time? Just seeing them they'll they'll eventually break locating. They'll it'll go in your right? If I just keep saying it just keep saying, I'm Decem sing. I'm just saying. Then it's just control and manipulation. Airing me, my own grip. There's still to ceremony. Trying to check you trying to bury you in my idea at getting very very that's eight. Buddy idea. I like it you have two girls. I do. How old are they seven and ten seven and three quarters excuse me. All right. So that's nearly eight didn't nearly different games. Indeed. She's the only gets paranoid at Halloween. She looks at Halloween like this. She loves it. She loves it. But you can't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. Loves it. I mean, we have had blow up pumpkins in the yard since September fifteenth because we had to get it going, and and she's been talking about it. You know, she talks about her costume like it changes, you know, week forty times, and then we won't get anywhere near buying it until we get close this year. This year for longtime. Our girls would put it off put it up hundred off. And then you were always like we had some kind of like both half ferry sort of lucky to have with around the house. There's a Katy wings. Pure like a rockstar. Yeah. They were like superferries, exactly. Yeah. They they had a couple of years are over. They actually like knew what they wanted. And now it not well, there's a division. But but but the older now, they're sixteen and thirteen. The youngest cynically we'll just like I'm a ferry and then you'll be like look like you're a fair like this. I saw. And it was. Yeah. We just didn't have the. She leans flew out of the yard ones. Like have to dress up for school. Our what do we have you could be one girl overalls? You know, you have overalls and there's a plaid shirt around here somewhere. You look like you're the coach of the volleyball team put on a large sweatshirt and liking. Yeah. Yeah. Jerry seinfeld. Old big sweater. And I mean, like if I look back in my high school the high. The high unflattering giants sweatshirts Jose so bad OBI and tiny leggings, which which I guess on one on one hand is good because they're not leading they're not leading with their sexuality so much. They're not like here. It is guy. They like covering covered in covered up the guards not the denim underpants. That I see some kids. Underpants. Denham up is what I say pull them up. Larry, I'm not talking about that lower. I'm talking about the girls where it is denim underwear where it is cheeky. He loves. But the away game wiz line like we look greatest thing. But the ninety s. The greatest bitch was, hey, here's your OBE leaks. You can wear pants lower. This is where McDonald tour, so that's nice and long and you look good. Anyway, flair on the end of it. Right. Yeah. We're back to this thing that we were imprisoned by the highway highway highway on your body shape. Pictures of all the rock bands. And as a mom, I say, hey, parents what you doing? Did you did you see? Yeah. Are your kid left the house that I I'm a wait a minute. I'm sorry. I didn't see what you were wearing. I know exactly why that's happening carry on. Your bottoms out of your pants fantastic. Right. Say back in your pants bitch. But he would say that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Girls with the most hanging is a huge that we're at the football game. This will football end of the day. And there's all the teenagers in mills middle school football game. And the teenagers are walking around with the moon's hang out and the daddy. Like, oh, I why is awkward data sweat can only matching where because we're all looking at the football game. But the girls are all standing at the fence with the moon's out in front of the football game. So there's ju- you can't not see it. You can't. So I'm gonna go ahead and make this point. And I want it to be made in the best in the best possible way because broiler my friend, and I were talking about it as well. As a man your head turns before you see it. There's a thing that goes female objects like something and you turn. Then you have a sense that I wish it wasn't already moving towards it. Right here right moving. And then you arrive a thirteen year old. And now you're in a shame pan is like, oh, you got to push back. And then you're like the party goes put some clothes like not not I'm ashamed of you. Not that there's something wrong with you. Message is the message is getting mixed up. And obviously, many most adult men are like, okay, just whatever. But but a lot of guys are like they don't they just like. There's a. But that is the thing that will be our next lesson after, you know, fifteen twenty years is let's actually just get to what what what's actually happening because his unsavory as a lot of it is sometimes it's true. And you have to go look, this is just what the that's what the experience is. Is that you you look at something in a way that is like oh steak, I smell steak the steak I wanna so sometimes the compartmentalization of females is like, oh, I'm just attracted to females doesn't. Right. But there was no plan when we got here. I mean, I I believe we were supposed to be out of our bodies like fifteen years ago like we're supposed to have left. But we didn't we made a board game that we stay here and play. But we know you're supposed to get rid us. Yeah. Run twenty or something. Yeah. I agree with you man, where it's like where where are the parents here where I understand giving your children you want to give them the autonomy to present themselves. There you go. Yeah. No. That's you grew since last time you wore that that's no longer in rotation. Right. And live out in the laundry has a mom. Days option. You're like you're dressing them when they're little because you can like and you're like, oh my God like law, and then there comes a point where they start taking autonomy over themselves. And they say, no, I like, my young my oldest was only wearing leggings under her Tutu's clean garden, and she started to try, and it was like, okay. And then now my youngest right is the soccer like with the sweat shirts and things like that is the thing. Like, everybody's just wearing that. And I have agreed unless it is. Hey, you didn't see it was raining, please. Don't wear your, you know. Rare or whatever, you know, velvet close. Thing we bought I've said I'll step off and not say ninety five don't wear the sweat shirt. Like, they're like exact control my own temperature. Find however. However, because the whole forget about some whole other thing that you forgot when your kid like why you had to wear something. And what you were like, I'm not thinking about degrees. Right. Not worried about whether this is going to make me based on or cute or whatever. What's know? You have rights motive for. Yeah. But, but there is a motive there is a motive with those girls in the moon's. Oh, fully aware of it. Right. And like look this is I love a school uniform. I love it. I do a really do. I mean, like, you know, we may have should have been left our bodies. We should all be wearing jumpsuits just everybody. Just zip zip jumps and jumps. That's where jumps it. Because it is it's be so happy with a utilitarian. If everything was like the army. The new color, but we take one away to say don't to many choices we want you to go outside. We want you to just talk to each other your your community get past this stuff, but more than anything those girls. Just I as a parent. I would want to teach my kids that you are saying something that you shouldn't be saying, right? You are selling steak when you are a hotdog, right chicken. You are still meal and. What you wanna be presenting his cauliflower? Kid's meal. You're not the cat. But let's now frozen than boiled goes boiled meat. Nobody likes. Wasn't to be freshened an attractive pe- as a person, my camped, they hire Brian. I don't even think. Thing sexuality is a part of it as much as it is a part of an overt. Because because people can be sexy and a variety of ways. Exactly. And that's something that is. But you, but you're you're the story you're telling exactly because here's the thing. The superpower of it of a being provocative any woman who shows any any kind of being provocative has power men. Don't have that at all. If you unless you are Bradley Cooper or like five other guys. You don't have a superpower is a handful of men that are like super power men. They're like that guy. So good looking it's painful, right? But, but but most men are just guys, and then nobody cares. Get to know you. And then they like you. Personality, and you don't believe that thing is sexy. No, he's telling whatever. Women's spark less frequently than men do and they spark more based on a connection fairly then asset X whereas men are like moon moons and short shorts. It's bright. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But it's a mating. Call peacocking. Like, you should not display. It's like don't write checks your body. Can't cat. With our DNA stamping and also because not that long ago. People didn't live past twenty thirteen was like this. She better get going because she's thirteen right until next spring. Genuinely they don't understand it there. So they are they're so excited about, you know, their sexuality has been kinda turned on or or they're getting attention from from people. And so it feels good. And it's that thing where no one said to them. What do you fish for with that bait and they're like, oh, oh, what do you mean? Well, what do you mean cab? And you are really only trying to like, you know, pick up certain customers, and you're picking up a whole slew of people, and you have to be you're dragging by. Oh, yeah. Around be. So it's so funny looks like a pilgrimage. You're like the pied piper. It's weird. That's right. Can I ask you about this for I did not realize as a woman how much power I had for a long time? Like, I mean, I think that women don't know right in and saying we're so busy so figuring it out. There's a whole right? Wait. You're so worried about what did what did they feel versus? What do I feel? Yes. Exactly. Right. Full sorta my whole life. Especially our generation of girls were pro still programmed that way. Yeah, we're so program that with all of the archetypes that we saw and it was literally six handles. She's like I like him. But I can't tell them in like, oh my God. Like here. Let me get my panties to the geek. And then also his the hot the hot dream boat is going to give away his girlfriend to have sex with all of our so insane. When we look at it this. Samantha Baker storyline is the only one that holds up like that you could actually watch again, not be like, and I'd be like fide, right? Everything else is like rape, culture racism, just right in the middle of the message about the about the. It's so romantic. Girlfriend and his. Identify. What's funny is? You've been if you break down, the the those micro relationships first off the whole thing is about not being seen. Right. Remember, if we're gonna break birthday, her whole life is disappearing. The second thing is the only reason we like the Amine. I if it hadn't been a girl if he just giving her the car the puck in the everyone's favorite person is giving the nerd his car, and and his friendship and his approval in his thing. You can have this. I'm I bequeath this to you and this kid who shouldn't get it who doesn't get anything. Right. That's what we're supposed to like not the fact that like, oh, my God that the baggage is a woman his Penney's they've looked at. And who's I now know she's out of her mind, right? So it's like five different ways from Sunday. I think is the line. He said. Friends. So it's okay with me. Key click. Hang on one second. The here's what I want the other girl. But here's what's crazy. It was a fantasy for for boys to and I'll tell you why. Because I'm of an age where women did have all the power because if they didn't respond to you fucked. What were you going to do like you ask somebody out, which is hard? And then they'd say no fuck not gonna walk around with that. And why would I do that? So because there wasn't it was a there was only one transaction, really. Which was a guy was meant to to ask a woman out. And then a women was supposed to wait for a guy to ask them at that was the transaction Brian runner in different than so that was a lot. You're like fuck. So it's on me for that person to like me, and I got to pick the right one. And if I don't that's a no. But then I was I was like how do you not have the power? I just asked you out. I showed you my hand. I am now left myself wide open. You can take your time with it. You can say no, you can say, maybe I get back to you. Like, you have a billion options that aren't ho God. Thank you. But I I think that maybe certain women knew they had that power maybe certain women new because they had enough options and choices, and they are they knew they were giving their feedback. They were getting. They could hold onto it. And I certainly wasn't getting feedback. But I wonder if like five kids in my like deeper rich high school, just like. Like, so I I didn't wait. I didn't wait. I asked the guys out. I asked them to the dances because I was like, I'm not going to not go, right? I want to fit in. I don't want to not be seen. So I, you know, but that has proven to be a bad. Like my husband's like Ray. She's so pro. Yeah. Ask the question. In the chase their better. They're better in pursuit. It feels like it. I mean that was what was your my experience was that? I grows asked out sometimes I would go, and it would never be. Just now that doesn't mean that that doesn't happen. I'm sure it does. And for some people. Maybe that's the right thing. I just liked the chase. But that's also that's just what I learned. All I learned my father was completely respectful of women. He was super nice. But he's like, you're not you're not a wallflower. No one's coming to get you so go ask people out. Then if they've and be nice about it, you know. And so. Bang-up job with that. Most most most men haven't been doing that with their sons wrestling time where it's just it's a numbers game. Like the everything's in the phone now, that's all. Just like puts out to thirty girls and senior sends their hits back so again on well, this gives me. Well, no. But this gives me a really good ability to make this point. They didn't do a bang-up job. He did a bang up for half of it. Okay. But I have no understanding of my sexuality would it meant what it would do the drive that. I would have the what what I was supposed to do what we were what women were what what what liking men were like any of it. We had a basic idea of those are the Philippian tubes. He got that with and there, and they have periods and you'll have a what they call it nocturnal emission. And we're done. Nothing zero penis vagina. Because that seems like it'd be interesting to me, I'm interested in that idea. This bill. This is asking me if we can go I've not been invited. So. But nothing and then when you have this metoo movement based originally on fifty year old men, plus not not a defensive. But where does it go with his I maybe I want to have sex with a plant or I like men or I have a whole other thing it with no conversation yourself governing. And we all know how self-governing goes great. They've taken. I mean, like the you're talking about the fact that the sex education that we had in school was like are you there? It's me Margaret Ryan again, maybe I won't forever. You're done like three books and everybody and now they've taken so much sex sex education out of the schools that it's you know. There's even less, but, but then I also feel that there's a different kind of conversation that kids are having these days of, you know, how they identify like I feel like there was a way in in some ways they have more conversation. And maybe it's because it's all available on the internet. And so they don't need right. I instruction. They're getting it a lot. Getting everything we watch. Yeah. I mean, you don't have to go past eight o'clock to hear somebody or see somebody fake masturbating. Right. So. Okay. Well, that's the thing that everybody knows about. Now that nobody knew about knows not happy days there. Nothing on three's company where two girls and a guy living together, but he had to pretend to be gay. Live together, right? None of that. And no and most men, and and pornography was not even a big deal, but you would like magazines or whatever remember somebody going. We're looking like very very young looking at a picture going some people do it in the button. Like, there's no way Noviny we were like looking at it going. No. You can't go in there. That's not. There's no way somebody goes his name room. There's no. Yeah. Right. That's that's who's discussing the conversation in in a like, right? No understanding of maybe the guy who brought it up is interested in that. And maybe as a whole series of thoughts that he's having and without the community taking care of the community. We can't really we can't really until we start getting really real about this stuff. It won't get better because we'll be in a state of. Well, I guess I'm just not going to ask anybody on just make sure right? I know that that I I'm not going to ask anybody out. Like, I think you're quitting a lot of things it into one like the me to move in certainly not guys who weren't afraid to ask girls out or maybe maybe it comes from the rage of like rejection, and I will like sort of caveman style take what I want like pow our here and this on this hand, I didn't get what I wanted earlier. But now power so you want something from Mesa than I will take this other thing from you because I can do that. Because I hold all the cards in this other ROY. That's a little bit more what we're talking about. Right capacity. And it could come from endless rejection as a kid like not or not knowing how to say what you want and ask for what you need and handle the rejection, right? Where once you've found an operating system sticking with it finding like well when I was not nice to this person at work. Right. But somebody like Harvey Weinstein who had Georgina Markacia like like nitrogen must be beautiful out of his league. So out of this is Lee and yet he's still like clubbing people over the Hanish because he constantly praised himself. He didn't he couldn't he didn't look at her. It's like. It's like it's like the arrival of fame. It never gets there. It's not the thing. That solves the problem. Right. So that woman who you're right. Everybody says, oh, it's like, no. That's that's that's just that's fame that guy getting a girl that's way out of his league is just fame. He wanted to show when he can do that. He doesn't care. He's like I did that they're now that stuck to my wall and see it. But that doesn't mean I don't want my insecurities got better. They're just bad because this isn't a real right thing that you meet someone you love. That's when you see sometimes you like how did Pearce, bro? How did this actor picked that person that they seem like they're not because they're in love they love each other. They have something some other thing. That's common. You know? Sometimes there too pitiful people's under what so interesting when you do see somebody like, you know. It didn't last but I- Billy Joel and Christie Brinkley or whatever. Saying like when you see on your right? Right. Wow. You know, that's one of those ones where it's I can't think of maybe one then has lasted in that respect. Right. Like, oh, or they're just with a commoner like some really famous person who's gonna take this. Civilian tristen movement. Yeah. Cal-, you know, and just try, and you know, it's it's it's there is I think that is the key to a lasting relationship is having that that thing I was listening to one of the other podcasts we're talking about like having that intimacy having that real friendship, and how you to just you wanted to just be with all the time and talk about music, you talk about this and talk about that. Exactly what I sound like. That is. So, hey. Perfectly imitation. Curious. That is the real thing that that, you know, attracts you together, that's sort of like the magnet, right? But it, but then that that thing dissipates as real life, and especially children and all the different things that intrude on your time in the and the relationship of the couple in the nests, and you know, it's not just the newness in the freshness. I think that like having some I mean because I'm I'm sure and I don't know. But in your relationship there, you know, musically. Let's say like, you guys can even though you have kids you're like, you know, what let's go see so and so at the dead at at our let's go whatever you have that thing that you guys share doing together, but you like doing together, and that's really important in a relationship in a marriage to make it last to keep going to have it. You know, sustain is to let go back to that thing because it's never gonna feel fresh in the same way that it did when you're first discovering one, but have those things that you guys really like. To do together. I think but do you feel like like like in your relationship? How long how long were you married for twelve years twelve years? Okay. But so do you find that we hold these expectations for each other of how it was the beginning or how we felt at the beginning or how we felt connected to each other at the beginning that we have a hard time adapting and evolving as we grow as people or as we grow apart. And then we're always holding. We're holding it up to a standard that we can't get to again. I don't know that it's the feelings. I think it's the fact that like there was an attempt to connect like you're like when you first meet somebody like you are trying you are like I am going to get dog beds from my house, and I don't like dogs, but I want you to come over. And then I wanna make my peace with dogs, and then I'm going to buy dogs. And then I'm going to be the one that wants dogs. But I, but I'm going to open myself up to new I'm going to try that show up at this person's place. Surprise them. And I'm going to think about them when they didn't expect me to think about them. You know, that's that's all that's all stem type. Like, I'm asking. I'm asking me. Now, she's coming coming coming through it. Like, do you find that you hold you hold a relationship up to like, the feelings are the expectation of what it once was? And how does it feel satisfying in that manner anymore for whatever reason, you know? I think for me the biggest problem with that is that we started our relationship in a long distance way. He's another country he's from England. And so you get to know somebody in a different way. Sure. And. You know in in moving forward in my life. I won't do that again. Because there's a lot of stuff that you can sort of like fill in the blanks, and you know, because you're you're always your best cell. And this is like this is pre FaceTime. This is pre you know, like it was you know, we like the first time I got a text come here. What is that? Like, can you say me, I don't know. And it's a different kind of communication, and I think that the problem these days is that you can do all this communicating vis-a-vis, fines and. You know texting? And you're you're filling in the blanks with something that is maybe not enough. Maybe he's not true. Maybe he's not. Well, it's a bit fantastical man tickets like it's it's dramatic like we were at a distance. You know what I'm saying? And and also see that this is to think about each for each other until on the blanks. Whereas now you have because everything's immediate. And you can respond everything so quickly, though, someone doesn't respond right away you build in motive. Well, you. Yeah. Well, you also get panicky and all those sorts of things I think that that commonality like when it comes down to it. We really didn't have a lot in common. We just really really distant how a lot in common. Go by how long did you date at long distance before you were in the same city and actually part of each other's kind of daily life about six months? Okay. That's the bed. But then there is still a lot of travel. There is still a lot of he's he's a guy who has his work takes them away a lot. So there's still a lot of distance, you know, and. I think that that is truly the root of. You know, how you one of the things I was listening to in your podcast with Christine actually about you know, people like when you're at a distance, and then you fill in the blank, you have other relationships and also something when you were like with somebody from another country, they are just like cultural norms that are completely. You know, a joke that came up would be. You know, 'cause I clearly just like, you know. Like, I said you married a black American actors. It's a fucking puppet show in. Happening show. Tampa. And it's great. Yeah. The English they like to keep some moments only. So, you know. So moving forward in my, you know, next relationships or whatever like is to come. It has to be I really has to be more face to face. Right. Right. Right. That I have that think there's like there has to be things that I really have in common. I mean, girls were driving along and call. I put some Coldplay on and they're like, oh, dad calls this cold fish, and I go. Yeah. I really like. Like Reagan, I go. Yes. I you know, I used to make a joke that like someday when we split up I will say it was the reggae. You know, you're on the Reagan. Dan, hysteric reggae or does he like the whole lifestyle that goes with now he doesn't like go. It's not that that guy too. That guy we'd come home sometimes and he'd be cooking and there'd be like a lot of reggae. Look. And my oldest was like, yeah. You guys used to be like to your turn your music, though. You didn't turn your playing my seventies. AM on Sunday mornings, you know, like my Little Rock, you know, yacht rock. Sure. Sure. And we were very different very different in many many areas, you know, so now you're entering co-parenting together while kind of dividing up your life to a degree or figuring out where you fit with each other. And it's good. It's always that good. It's really, you know, he's a great dad. Really great dad, and you know, we offer different things, you know, he's really good with taking them camping and nature and teaching wildlife. And you know, like, they, you know, he's a really great dad. So we we've we've done very well at this part. I think somebody better than most I've heard so and then also must be nice for you that you actually like sometimes have alone time. Yeah. You actually like sometimes just get to be in your house by yourself or do have time to like sort of privileged yourself in what you need. Yeah. And you know, there's something that you said earlier about. Her divorce? Tell me Ken. Let's say he's not there. Oh my gosh. That sounds so. Come back. Wanna work out? And he's not there right rested flake. You're just like you sleep the whole night by yourself. Got your garden and just those are parts just your. Just your fantastic household on the God. Doors open or nights on or off. It's it's weird. But it's it's I think more than said something earlier about like knowing who you are when we're talking about women having their power in like, we're always, you know, not being seen not being. And I think that that is why I when I was younger I will be seen. I might be one of five black kids in my high school. But I you will see me and your sister is very much like that same high school. Just. Yeah. Yeah. She she's very successful. She's very powered. And she's a very outspoken as well. So that's really awesome. Yeah. But. But I mean, we're very different, but she is very outspoken lady. But yeah, for me, I felt I felt not seeing I felt not like I spent a lot of time. You know, learn has up your space in the world space. It was not just taking space. It was like a lot of all not I'll show you. But like I need to be seen. I need to be successful. I need to be you know, and you get on that train. And that is a powerful train, you know. And I had a dad who used to be like nothing comes to sleep sleeper. Better dreamlike. We, you know, there was a lot like go go go go go in our growing up. And that is a fantastic. I'm not sorry for how I have gotten to where I have gotten in what I have done. But there is something in that. That's like checking boxes like, okay, great. I did that and that the house when I was three and then there's a lot of. Dick, dick tick. And and do you think that that driver that in Bishen to be seen into into check those boxes is that for you? Is it is it the same thing as knowing your worth? Does it run parallel to knowing your worth? I don't think that you that you can't it's what you were talking about with like, you can't measure your worth in those outside right things. And now, I I really only want to like look at what my part of the program is counted. I what was my failure. What how did I what did I do? And I did too much in. I'm saying I was so like like, you know, blitz go, right? And I also didn't bring enough of me. I didn't bring enough because he didn't know me. An I to me. Does he hears, of course, basically said earlier? Because you said he's a really good dad. And that was that was true. Right. And what was it? What? What made that besides the camping which I understand what made him. What makes him a good dad like? He's fine. He's funny. He but as far as the workload. You know, it's interesting because he he's happy to do take them where it places and do things and spend that time, you know, spend like in a way that I feel like growing up like my dad was really busy really like hit a lot going on. Hang like, my kids have had great father figures in there. They have their both their grandad's or super into that like into playing with them and spending time with them and doing stuff with them. You know, my my ex is a great. He's like, you know, it's that it's putting in that time. Whether it's building Legos, or, you know, taking them to surfer good ride bikes, or whatever I think that that's like part of what makes it like likes to cook. Like, totally cook stuff teach swimming, like, many activities, many activities, but as far as the like this what they need to wear this with any to have this go I'm asking because because a lot of dads who get like. It'd be nice. If you collaborated in the thing, I didn't I I have my did. My dad would say he was busy, and we're always busy. Right. I'm super busy enough, man. We'll be back. Catch by going on. And my dad was lovely. I love it. I love my father eleven eleven. But my dad was a non participant in anything that in the the bureaucracy. The you know, the bureaucratic too much. Definitely hard to know where to go. There are things that women just have to do. So I can tell you, you know, who needs their nails clipped, I know who's going on the field trip. I know who's got the dental appointment that I have to move who took for lunch where you've got the side to bring the snacks for ice skating after. It's just the don't necessarily show up for that. But I didn't necessarily do you show up for that? But he can he absolutely can you if he said to you I want to take over all the dentistry. It'd be like it'd be like until they started doing it. And then you go do you know that you have to go Mark DaMarcus offices? If you go to the right? And then eventually they're like. We have this conversation all the time. And I think man, I it's I am so much more evolved in my daughters lives at my father was and I love my father. And I think, you know, sometimes I think there's this sort of false idea that there's a split version of it most people, I know if the woman has a like a job you sleep. It's a woman they work at a studio or something so and the dad's a some sort of an artist that he knows all that stuff. He he feels in. He goes, he's gotta do the pickups. Nobody's air forms. He's got those hours. And so the idea of rectifying something there were you literally go, I would he know how to get through your my full day type Taipei right completely. Plus, how do you? How does it? How do I eight hundred third tower? Right. I'm. I'm. Oh my God. I just fell more in love with you. I don't know that I thought I was type h how we got married. I'm not. My my brain functions. It's just going to be slower than the way. You do it. When I like as soon as I had a baby I went, oh, oh, women women have a thing. And I don't know if it's that it's not necessarily that we are smarter. But the way we can filter, and and do what I said like I'm in because when you have a baby when did it poop when when does it need feeding when does it when y need to pump? When do I need? Yeah. It's just this thing. Does it? It just is like concrete, and you have to like because there's so many things that you have to organize, and I remember there was a time when we had our first daughter, and he went swimming. And I and I was so mad that he just jumped in the pool because I was busy with all this other guy. Did you did you say he privileged himself the pool? He went to the pool he has privileged. Oh, yes. I was I felt tied to this rain. I had so many other things that I just couldn't like oh here, can you? I'd like to take a swim. And also put a lot of stuff on myself. I took it on myself. And this is part of the problem in this was I would say his complaint with me is that there is there are things you have there. Have there too much? I did wait too much more than the usual. You know? And and look I have given this friend of mine is pregnant right now. And and I said this is so useful. But do you go? Oh, I did tell friend. I said, I just want you to know. And a friend told me this. You are now to you are now to people you are responsible for you in this person. Now from now on when you pack for trip, he will pack for himself, you pack for two. Yeah. When you when he eats eats himself, easy for to you, are you are always working for the I am three because there's me into two little people. And and it was an and as much as there is a complaint that like you did too much, and I did I waited too much. He did just operate as himself for re for long long, long time of pack for myself. I look after this. I like, you know, it just and maybe I should have communicated it better and said, hey every. I know you having never been the situation before you don't know that actually it changes you on a cellular level. And all of a sudden, your brain changes, and you are two or three. I think the understanding it didn't change us. I made this joke in my standard. I'm like, look if you're a clumsy person before you have a baby that doesn't solve it. And that is going to be the truth. I mean for a guy, you know, like it doesn't. You're going to still be guy loses things kids some oh shit. Where's the park again days where you're still you? Because you are we have a brain. That is like I gotta get something. I gotta figure something out. I gotta figure something out. We gotta figure I gotta figure out how to gotta get. I gotta I gotta make my and we can't if you that thing. That's just books falling on this fucking pull the wrong book. And I wanna think about them all at once. But I can't think about him. I to I. Men. And it makes it really do. And so then there's this rift, I think and then those and then there, and it's hard to get even again after that because there is a lack of understanding of both sides and one of them is busier and more useful. I mean, why do you think men become so unuseful now we'll be gone soon? Like. You nearly obsolete are our physical strength, and our and our our willingness to hurt each other early right men trust each other what they're paying. That's what football is. I'm going to have pain. I'm going to give you paying. Well. I'm going to give you pain. We'll do it as a game because there's not a war. We're going to go fight in and those end up death. But I do want to be hit. And I wanna hit somebody and women sometimes start out that way. But they don't they were not socialized that way men start with pain. So there's that weird trust thing. And then it's like, well, they'll be paying later because we'll be doing pain things. No, there's nothing left. And by the way, when you have kids you take all the edges off and take the second floor down. So it just lays on a Totten ball and never gets hurt. Right. Mike is have never been my kids. Would I have stitches all over my been there like ten times they put rubber on put like that rubber mat on the playground? They close the playground and put this the spongy thing. So like God forbid you. Swings anymore because that's dangerous. Yeah. They said that you can't land on the concrete day one because it was wet from the do some kids slipped and crack this head open on the on the day one. Now, they can't play in the mornings someday gonna fall hit that rubber bouncing right back and he's getting his nose and the we're we're. And now, we forget that the durability of human beings, the ability of existence raising hothouse orcas at this point, we really Larry. Yeah. Because you don't have the experience of shutting your finger in drawer, which is one of the worst things that will happen. Oh, my. Or of my car my kids hand wants. Oh, I did. Yikes. I try something. She's how do you feel? How do you think about it and feel actual physical like pangs of pain? Like like, he's a week. Yeah. Once a week to week now. Yeah. And she actually also they were making a they were making a boat for the Guinea pig. We don't have a Guinea pig Guinea pig. I don't know what who the was stuffy or something and she took a knife in was like plastic thing. And then, of course, tried to clean it up themselves. No. And then I hear screaming finally because it's squirting it was just a horror show. But like, you know, as you just go. Just get right into it. Like. You know, like, just let's where's the. But that's what you have as the you have that. Yeah. You know? Although in fairness, my my husband at the time did not freak out. He was like this also. The husbands always in a learning thing. And you can't be like that thing of us knowing your instincts. And and I did that with you this morning feminism tell somebody something they don't fucking know it, and what you should want to fuck you. I don't want to cause you think I should want to. And I don't know how and also this is a bigger discussion than I did something wrong. And I think sometimes we forget to go, look, it's absurd free to think for me to think I can barely think like me, and that's a process it's rebuilding itself constantly like a broken first year, computer, but. Men need to be guided along, but I do feel like they're great partners in. I think men actually are good in second position. Like, there's not like most guys don't wanna be fucking running everything. Most guys elect Memphis can love just help out a little bit here. Many vacation of run thing. Let's do. Okay. Would like it if people approved of me low to become a little bit. But I don't need to run the fucking show. Everyone's happy for the show running people to want to run the show's myth, male or female. I think people care as much as you'd think. I think it's just the people who have stuff at the top that ended up being white men are afraid, but most guys I think are willing to go. If you bring me in on this. I will do my part to but I have to be brought in and reminded to like. I would say guys get everybody. Get a notebook and write some shit down money. You're told I will say though, there is that thing that like, I know so many women who share this for example at the holidays, and like it will be Christmas Eve and the guys will go. So what we get them? What do we do this for everybody? Would we do? And you're like, are you? Oppresses for my parents to did you. The birth that, you know, what I'm saying like, you know. Yes. Yes. I don't I one of the things that I was thinking about for hang out. What size is the. Okay. Okay. Okay. Cool. Do they have red or purple redder? Okay. How do you what? Like that thing. Like, you're so immersed, especially the girls if there's boys you get a little bit more opportunity. But my parents did this thing where they everybody get like. Because we had this thing where we've had that conversation few times. But also, my parents gave individuals my parents would give my dad would give me a gift from him. And my dad would give my sister. Like, we did a lot of that eight gifts. So. Because because I want to go back to what you're about to say, you're about says about, you know, women, you know, in the holidays where you by that. But we did the thing where I would buy everybody's Christmas. President for all extended family. And then the day before he'd go. I wanna give the kids at give just from me. I do you motherfucker because I have done all special thing from you. Because I. Why would? For me because I've. Great shopping. And it made me insane. When he. I hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying. Valuable. The person on the outside saying I would like to I would like to ingratiate myself to my children who I can't do it the same way you have. I didn't carry them around on my breast. I don't have this amping. So here's a connecting thing. That's just between the two of us. Why wouldn't you want? All right. I think that what what that comes from his unique to then like, okay? So you say next Christmas or whatever, maybe you do a special New Year's gift this year and the next holiday or whatever you celebrate. You you both back off and go. Okay. So I'm gonna give this when this went like, you're gonna make less make it less than everybody gets one individual gift, and that's it. And that would be really cool that would be very cool. My my. Went crazy. It was like are you fucking? Special this conversation. We never did it anything like that. So the way that you did it which was your way not ours without any competition without ever asking without ever saying, do you want to divide up the schoolwork? How did you feel about school? What did your parents think about school? What did you want to do about the way you dressed meant? I like six outfits all the way through high school there. Just weren't the the boxes that come to our house every day, and I'm always being explained just they've outgrown them. Okay. Like a head. Ahead way, you sort of step back and go, I don't know how to do this version of this because it isn't something. I know I'm not trying to play lame. It's just that like. I think that we come in. And we do what we know. And like get mad circle behind. You're not communicating. Hey, this is how maybe this is how I the holidays. How did you do the holidays? How we do the holidays? You know, that was what I was gonna say is moving forward as I think about what I need in another relationship. I would I think it would be an interesting way to start the day to say to you need anything today. Is there anything I can help you today like invite source? I know that's like sounds very altruistic. And like, you know, whatever in romantic in my head and like. It's just a nice way to. Start the day to say it because it says, I see you. I'm listening, and and can I provide something that you might? Need service? Is it just is it time later is it like, hey, I've got some time. Let's go meet for whatever raise or. No. Can I can you pick up the? But yes, I'm glad you're asking. I need did again or whatever. And there can be conversation about it. But I just think it sounds like something that would be great. I will say. I've tried it. There is a thing where that only has. Meaning if you are trusting that that person can do for you what you can't do for yourself. So to hand somebody something from your list. Right. Think will they do it. Right. And and if if your answer is no then you have to ask yourself. Why have I not let them what is it about them? How is it that I don't trust them to do this? And why because that's not their fault. So you can offer it because I find I'll say I would do this to me that and like like you stop me from Washington dishes almost every single night. And then like I'll like, and then you go. Well, maybe I won't and that's like. Finding the ways to participate finding how to help. And then also being thought of as a person who my favorite thing in the whole world was I heard this John Libya, what's her name Christine. Emily blunt talking about him. And they said how do you like him as a director? And she said, you know, he's my husband. So she goes, he's he's a problem solver. He always solves the problem. And the guy goes on the set she goes, no in life. He always wants to find the solution. I thought God no one's ever said. That about me. I would love to be that guy. But you can you can't you have to be a partner does. And I think it's really interesting that you say to you trust that that person is going to solve the problem for you. Now, for example, like I have a new nanny who's helping with me with the kids. And what is fantastic. What I what is fantastic is that. I have reduce some grocery shopping. You know, and she now thinks outside of what I've asked she'll go I noticed we were out of cucumbers and the kids really like that can I, you know, should I get that? Or hey, I did the laundry the other day saw that we were getting low on x y and z can I we which brand do you like best late, right? And I have asked in the past. Being able to -ticipant I love being it. But I also asked for things of my spouse in the past. Can you do x y and z and I have gotten excuses of what you know why? Or like, can I what about this or whatever? And. I either acquiesced or then like like, oh, sure. Go get the like the thing that I didn't want at the thing or right, which is my fault. Not say, no, this is really what I need right were too. Not not to not get to have a bunch of cases. Why it can't be done? And you know, there was something the other day with that I needed, and it was like, I need I actually need this. And some, you know, something came back of like, well, blah, blah. And I said, I actually just need this is that is possible. Or is it not? And they said, yes. And I'm like say what you mean what you say. But don't sit me. Right, right. This is what I need. Can you do it? Right. And you just have to be. It's not being really really clear. Anybody can't then they can't. And also accepting it, you know, and that their idea about something if it's different than yours is. Okay. You know, where I don't think that's how you do it or or like to do it this way, or you know. Then. Real. It's a real balance. Because I don't think people don't wanna help. Everybody's better off when they're when they feel useful. When they are people pick things that they're like, I'm not a great cook. I'm not I have no gift there. So I find it very but Amir's on a terrific, but she is in love cooking. But she just does it and it should be different. I need to love everything. I do. But most things that people do people they do it because they're good at it. And then they know they can make that person feel good and it's special. They have they get a little something out of it too. And I think it's finding those things in going. I should let this go to this person. Or I should we should collaborate on this part right here. You know, because I like to sit like when we do I love to sit and talk about history, and I love learning, and I'll sit there, and I will go I'll go read books come back or try and do because I but selfish I want to do it. But it also makes me good at certain aspects of the homework. Whereas Moore's like, I gotta do my own writing. And I'm I don't care about the Huns. Right. I know. Either. Right, right. Before you have to wrap up because we are saying, but you said something interesting about men being you think men being good in second position, which which is an interesting concept to me because there's something appealing about the idea of of that supporting versus having to lead the way. But I think that there's a problem with that in collaboration in a in a couple's relationship because a lot of times what I think we're looking for women is strength. And and someone who is are equal if not can sometimes be the one that carries us because we do find seven position Wilbur we are thinking like I'm like you have two two girls. I am three. And I'm every day. I am like, here's here's all three of our schedules. And all the things I need to be aware of all things I'm doing and and then here's us as four. This is me thinking about the entire family, including all of the meals and all the things another whatever. So the idea of having a the men begin second position. Well, that's really interesting to me. And I like hearing that I feel like there's also the part where it's like. Challenging second position in certain areas. Shortly for example, there is like the charge in finding the new doctor near gonna probably wanna do that. Or whatever like, you know, I led the charge and finding the charge in too many things, but I led the charge in finding schools because I'm familiar with the school system in LA. Nice sort of saying, you know, but then. So there is a thing where it's like, yes, there's a second vision to be. But like, then I'm sure certain for you. There's other ways in which Greg leads the charge are like, he's the, you know, like plans this or you know, support in that way. No. Okay. Well, then thank you. I crowd the net. And I do and I like things done faster and more efficient. And so it's the thing like, I've got this guy fishing. Fast thing. And also so that thing of like, yeah. Exactly. Like well. Then my dad like also, look, there's there's a arc types of like, my nobody didn't think my mom wasn't running the show. Right. But my dad was a figurehead in a ridiculous way. You know what? I mean, he was like a like say, you're you're you're like an exiled king still the king, but nobody really gives a shit because there aren't kings anymore just sort of figureheads of their own gender. And they're not really they don't have to be the most important person in the house, but they get to be in a fun position of like, look, I'm not going to be I have to be the fun because you're not any fun in this thing that you're doing fifty thousand things and don't want to look at me and want me out of that. Like, that's that's not fun. So we rely on new a lotta my dad for fun. My name is fun. My dad was like the guy who packed the car. We all went somewhere, and you know, he figured out the map and like, but he didn't really do any work this job came home. And he was my dad they've throw that about. But also, I don't have. There's no boys. There's a lot of. Stuff. There's a lot of boy stuff that I realize, you know, now, I'm like nobody wants to go the ball. Nobody wants to listen to metal. Nobody wants to anytime. I think of any show that's even slightly violent or like that the looks. I get are like, oh, God, you know. You know, watch this mind hunter. So we go upstairs, and I finish is over fincher in my room. But and then I watched twenty directing videos because I want to go run something I want to go be I want to be somewhere where people want to follow my lead. There's nothing for me to do because there is doing all the leading. So. I am a guy who's been invited on divorce. I live. I live at divorce having a divorce 'cause I am divorced by lived there. And I watch it and they're doing great. They're great. And they get to see me. And I I'm not late because I'm already there. So. That was that was very good. And this thing is just true over and over and over again. So the trailer for that, you know, the the. Christa leah. What's that? He isn't crystal. Hudson. Anyway, what's her name jennif- Fisher? That one Brun that one joke of like she's saying she's doing this and this and this and he's going to go for runs. She goes you're going to go for a run. Look like for Japan, the pool. Yeah. Thing of everything for the family. His thought was if I go for a run of in shape how attractive to her. And then she'll make is that hasn't happened in a billion years, and I want to and I'm I'm supposed to take care of myself like like this. I think sometimes the idea that it's it goes right back to the book. You have an assumption of what somebody's doing men complicated with motive. And they're like. Us as nice as I thought I'd go run to that. And then I'll come back that's run. Then I'll go upstairs and we'll eat. I promise you know, what I think falls down to and circles back to the beginning of our whole conversation communication. No one is communicating their motive nobody is communicating. I'm gonna go. Hey, I see that. You've got your hands full. I was going to take a run. Is there anything I can do to help you before kick my rat that that is one hundred percent. Sure. So that's being present for your own life has been president for for your partnership. It's not for your present for your. Right. Hey, I see you got your hands full. I'm gonna go take a swim. Is there anything I can do to help before I take a swim? But like trying to stop you from living your life, and I just want to help you why the life we are living together that that's that's what I mean by presence. If you're president you're not you're not on your run yet. Your the thing in front of us in front of you. And then you're on your run if that even happens at that point because it could change if you're not president. If you're not there. I think a lot of men aren't present. I think they're not used to being called in. So they're thinking about stuff, and then the and it's trust me. It's not interesting is complicated. And if they're not near the computer, they're not masturbating, so fantastic. Do it man get outside go for that fucking run? Thank you for doing that. Intentions. I love it communicates. Thank you to go. Not masturbating. I'll see you later. Watch Marian starting probably wouldn't is coming on. A whole lot of Dungy coming to you in twenty nine. I don't have. We don't have day we're finishing shooting. Now's ABC and then being and March and March on h. Handpick success because she's mostly things. Tremendous talented, and they can follow you at real Maron Dungy dot com. Real man Dungy is I think my Instagram, and I think it's been real man d is my Twitter tremendous guess tremendous. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for listening. You can reviews pleases into other podcast here on star burns industry and let. Gets. Oh hill year, we. Gouda show. North Pole hotline, MRs Claus here. My family needs winter styles. Now, consider come early. Our workshop is open yet. 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81:  Season 3 of The Handmaid's Tale - What we know so far

Mayday: The Handmaid's Tale Podcast

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81: Season 3 of The Handmaid's Tale - What we know so far

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Every time we do an episode is to talk about if we learned anything new about season three, because obviously everyone now that were passed these into is like what the hell is even going to happen. But I feel like right now, but we're gonna get that at the end of season went to exactly. I think we gotta do like, where are we at right now before we get into what the hell's going to happen in season three and what we know. So I'm going to do a brief rundown of what we know and how we know in what happened. So the big catalyst of all you people who were angry at Eden for existing was eaten. So essentially she is executed because she falls in love with Isaac because Nick is not having it. He's not. He's not even pretending no. So her an Isaac attempt to run away and that doesn't go so well, they get caught and instead of confessing and like, you know, saying that they were wrong, they double down on it and are summarily killed switch leads to the rest of the entire innings this season in where we go from there. So Serena, you know, is the other catalyst for this, the vast majority of the season. And so what happens out of that is she's confronted by June, who is the second to last or final episode where they're going through all of Eden stuff, and they find the bible that clearly she has been reading because it's like annotated out while, right? Yeah, that big, no, no reading, right. And the other big thing with Eden was the even Serena said she was the, you know, like if you're in a draw a person in Gilliat up, like she was raised in, she bought was exactly what Gilead thought women should be and the killer. So June comes to her because obviously she's been reading the bible trying to figure out what is going on, why can't get Nick love her? And I think the the bible is especially important for her because she is young enough that you know most of her ideas forming age would have happened in Gilead, not in United States, pre Gilead. So her making the conscious decision to go ahead and read the bible anyway and try to make sense of her life and her feelings with the bible and writing in it, I think, is much more significant than somebody older who had done all of their, you know, worldview thinking growing up before Gilead, and it's also very different than someone who lived a life and then can that had taken away came to the bible later on show live this life. And like you said with a lot like with people have substance issues or like have track. Turn, and then they, they find religion and then their life is change. And so with Eden, it was, this is what you've been taught that this is where all the answers are in. This is how all the things that she turned to. She came from a family that with very yes. Talk about that in a minute. So June comes in and says, she was trying to figure all this out by reading the bible, and she was murdered killed because she was trying to do what she thought was right. And finally like kinda saw through what Gilliat is in that. She can't do the thing that she wants to do, and it doesn't make any sense. And this thing that she thinks that God would want her to deal is the thing she's not allowed to do. Right. And so she's like, how are you going to keep your child safe and keep Nicole slash Holly safe? We I think we just have to go with Nicole. I know it's like I made a note later. It was like of course because she has to have two names like everyone else in. I didn't even think about. True Serena, really at that point kind of brushes that off. But then when they have the meeting later on where her dad Edens, dad, who we find out as the one that ratted her out because her Isaac went to them and we're like, the whole family seems okay with that. Which just my mind did not know how to react to this. And I just like I had to pause it just so I could freak out for a minute at that part. I just why how, but that's the Caesar. Why? But in that moment, that's when you really think that's when it clicks for Serena. Because before that when they're in the the greenhouse and comes in, she brushes her off and gets mad. Yeah, and it's more of a theoretical conversation point for her. But at that point she kind of sees Elson she, they share this moment in there were Serena's like, oh shit, you're right. And then we get the whole thing with Fred, and you know the June? Yeah, Trenton, this is not long after her having to confront white, Gilead really is in Canada. Yes, Seren mind, just big that did not happen that long ago, right? So her her reality and faith in Gilliat, not just faith in God, faith and Gilead in the system that she helped create is really shaken. So Serena attempts to take us through the proper channels. I guess we could say of in kind of recruits, lady Putnam and the wives to go confront the men and kind of properly say, hey, we want to change this law so that our daughters can read from the bible. I'm so sad. We didn't get to see her in lady Putnam going to talk to the group of wives Egbo please, please put that in a flashback. I really wanna see how that conversation went, and because clearly she did not lake either. She didn't have the full plan at that point. She was convincing to go with her or she didn't share her full plan because they were shocked. Yes, evenly put them worst. Yes, because the big thing is that. Decides to read from the bible, which obviously and in front of the scary Senate and in the door. Oh yeah, it was very moving. It was a great argument. She would be the best prosecutor, but she would, yeah, they were clearly not having it made an example example of her and Fred, in particular, who probably had a little bit of power to say, okay, let's do this or that decides to. And he just got to walk away and like not even be present. Yes, he'd. Yeah. When when she realizes why there are men coming in the hallway for her and Fred is just a very cool and collected about it on walks away with the bible like Dan, that is some cold hearted shit right there. Doubles down on his efforts to, I think, maintain his power more than anything because he lost Lolli moment when she was doing that because he did not know that that's going on the early people were like, Fred, what are you letting happen here? Xactly well, men not people, right. I don't think any of the ladies were thinking that, right? So this point it's like Serena, I don't think saw any of that coming. I think this was a nice analogy to someone of great privilege. Not realizing that when punishments happen, they can be excessive in terrible because she just never had to really think about it before it's when you're privilege runs out and you're the one that is a turn to when you when you are now on the side of the less privileged. And so the cuts her finger off and the kind of changes your perspective on things was probably at an effect on my thinking was well. So Emily will start about Emily. Emily does end up escaping while she with commander. Lawrence Bradley Whitford Scherzer is confronted by aunt Lydia towards. Z. end and summarily as I call it punch kick stab, stab, kick kicks her down the stairs. I mean she not wrong to deal here. Lydia earned that don't generally condone that kind of Orville violence, but. She then she's whisked away by commander, Lawrence, and as I put here a driver. So there's a third party here that knows what happened that night because he's not driving the car now without I don't know. But I know that he drives them to the place where they drop her off to get to escape. So he at least knows what Bradley, what Fritz in the front seat to like. It's not like they're having a conversation. There's a petition in the driver keynote drivers right? Bribe's right there and brothers DJ obviously, no music thing. That. So that relationship was so strange. They were so undefeated wavelengths. I really wish we had gotten to see more of that. I felt a little rush rush, and I think it needs to be rushed to lead up to her escaping. But like we we could have had so much more banter. I think what they of conveyed in the show is that she was gone at the end of her rope one way or the other. Oh, yeah. And that I know initially when the whole knife thing happened, we all thought it was. She was going to kill herself and I was, yeah. Ever since last summer where last off season when we talked about it that she was not gonna make it through this show? Yes. And so I mean, she's still may not. She may not through the season? Yes. What we know so far. So very interesting. I think they just had to contract that because at the point where she is mentally, I just don't think that like she could Alaska there very long even with him. Well, especially with him because he's so she, she might have stolen a knife and taking it to somebody else and you don't know with him because he was so like you didn't know where he was coming from, or. Yeah, you don't know if he is trustworthy. Yeah. And even when they're in the car driving, he's still like being cagey in weird and she's like flipping up. She has no idea what's happening, so. Okay. So June after that, June daring escape organized by the readers to say that every time. Though the Martha's I, I read it and the Martha's redid their MVP of season two. And so June gives her daughter Nicola Holly because of course there has to be two names to Emily, and she only gets her one name when she gets. She says, call her and the clay, which I think was another thing even before people hated that even before she decided to not escape. I think people are like, what are we calling the baby Nicole. You see people freaked out. I was one of them, yeah. So she does decide not to escape and stays in Gilliat with the express purpose of the original mission statement being achieved of the show which is for those keeping score at home, save Hannah. I feel like this is one of the more not you're tasting is not the word, but people have a lot of passionate opinions on her. Not escaping. I feel like I have to say. If you were a parent and maybe some of these people are sure some of it, you know how they would be like, okay, I'm gonna. Go try and fix this from Canada? Yeah, the child that grew in your womb that you birthed and raised with your spouse that you love. I, I cannot imagine leaving them behind a place like that, especially because it's a daughter. Yes. It's not like she had a son that would write much safer. Exactly. She had a daughter. I can't fathom the idea of leaving your child in a place like that. We've seen the struggle of anyone from Canada to be able to kind of affect anything in Gilead at this point. So I don't know that that it's even realistic like thing that you could do. There's no. She doesn't know that she doesn't have that knowledge of like how hard it is for people outside to try to penetrate and do things an, you know, she doesn't even really know how Emily wound up. They're able to escape. She doesn't know how that happened. She just showed up. I think that's an interesting thing to for people to get in the head of what the character does doesn't know. Yeah, it's hard because we know so much. Yeah. So the other person play here is Nick now, obviously we have been less critical of Nick this season. We asked his waiver naming himself, we removed his worthless title. He became nut so worthless. Nick this year. Yeah, and that's fine. I'm like that her neck somewhat better. Although, you know, we're in the end of things. All mixed feelings. So he plays a very important role in escape the and that when Fred kind of gets an inkling of something's going down, he runs up. Senators just begins to catch on. The tiniest label goes on, Nick runs upstairs, and basically he can't go outside the house two days. On right? And so it kinda inputs his hand on the gun and touches him on the shoulder, which is like this total power, dynamic shift blocks the hallway with his body. Aren't that like like what happens to women all time? Very good point. Very good point. But he's telling you can't do something and literally blocking your path. And the other thing that's interesting is and I said this in previous episode, but his stoic mannerisms and non emotional reactions to somewhat robotic finally came into play here because he's not really shown any dynamic reaction to anything that's happened there. At least it would be like self preservation. Yeah, at least with Fred. So Fred, it really only sees this version of Nick right of, you know, kind of toeing the line doing some things. He knows that Nick is the father of this child, but a, yeah, it seems like he has shoved it into lake. Maybe a corner of his mind way doesn't acknowledge it all the time. Yes, sometimes it seems like he really believes. Yes. So Nick is thoroughly as we left. Things holding Fred upstairs, semi, how hostage semi ostrich cellular play. So the other player here is Rita the MVP of the season and who has as I guess some of these things happened just came in the room and said, we can get you out and she's like, everybody's like, what? What? What are we going? What's happening? And then it's just all cat this, but but PS just take a few minutes to scrawl newly stay best artists come around them on the wall. Before we go, you got time for that. That's the thing. I don't understand that or maybe look like at tuck fourth out if it was like a Shawshank thing where she just doing it and had to cover it up the entire time. We'll come on. She doesn't have a Rita Hayworth poster to cover it up. It'd be awesome. That'd be a great like a giant Rita Hayworth poster on the wall, and then they magin their faces that there was a pinup poster anywhere that host. Fred walks in. So my one note, I mean here is that Brita Martha's organized, this whole escape, and I don't know what part Nick played in. We don't know really any information other than clearly like there a conversation between Nick and Rita at one point like how, how did the coordination of those two sides? Because the Martha's are not is no. There are no male Martha's, right. So the one thing I thought of was as soon as because Fred said something to Rita, and that's when he sprints upstairs because he's like, what's going on. And she, I don't know there's a fire or something like that. You gotta sees look on her face news like ocean at. So I think maybe like Nichols around and she went and got him and was like, yeah, Fred's gonna I was. I was surprised to see Fred, even realizing that she was not behaving as expected in them. Honestly, he is not quick. No, no, that is fast sleep for him. So the one caveat I said is like, Fred knew something was up, so it'll be interesting to see when this show comes back. Like what timeframe we're in and what happens to read a, I'm worried about Rita. Well, I'm worried about it. I don't think they can prove anything, but that doesn't stop them. Yeah, they don't seem to need much more than a man said. So Amand thinks that something may have only caveat that's there is the much like the other things that have happened with the Waterford is. They are want to cover it up more than they are to. Yeah, try can't blame him at this point yet, lady blame so and especially with Serena's head where it is right now, especially with her leading gene, Tiffany, baby, go. I mean, that's an easier thing though. It's easy to say that she kidnapped the baby. That's not hard, but you know. The orchestration of the escape is total maybe a little tougher. So our last person here is Lydia who lasted saw was steps at punch kick kick, kick down at the bottom of the stairs, really at the last place. We see her. Emily took it to or pretty good. Yeah, and put in her patented extra kick for good measure that she likes to do. She was kind of that I would have been over. Sure. Asian. So she is currently on the floor somewhere or on ambulances? They took her away. Yeah. So the Canadian contingency who we did not see much of after the treason coconuts episode Maura. She's discovered that Odette her fiance was killed in Gilead. And then that's one more reason for her to be pissed off is what I said. Just just like, you know, she's already had that was pretty crushing to watch. Her memory is pretty amazing up so there, Luke and Luke does have the party meets up with Nick at the bar because of course, and finds out this only one bar on apparently in little little merica. One bar finds out about June being pregnant, and but Nick says that it's commander Waterford, so there's no, you know, yeah, we doesn't admit right. There's no more Povich yet. You're walking. And so that'll be interesting to see where that goes with Luke, obviously with Emily heading up to Canada. What point do they connect with this baby? That probably has some interesting. Well in tailings about Emily know enough to be able to track him down. We're not getting into that party because that's Sarah's whole. The whole thing is there were no instructions. There was just a baby giving talk about their lives before issue members. Some of that, like there's a small chance, but I imagine there's a lot of American refugees up there. Well, an Emily, smart smart house mentioned college professor, and she's a very, it's like if anybody can do it, probably get it together and I'm sure numbers up. You know if nothing else Moyo will take care of the baby xactly last person, Aaron, she talked for seeing Aaron who finally has a name. Yes, Aaron, they actually never say it in the show, but it her name is Erin. Bruce Miller. And her flames line from this season is just randomly saying, blessed be the fruit loops. When she's eating when Samir wiliest character comes in, not Google, just Google blessed be the fruit loops and then hit images or sites that you can see some of the swag that people are making with less either fruit loops do it now for the great loss. And I couldn't remember enough time to look it up. But I think she's also the one that when they're trying to decide how to get the letters out is the one that says this could make a big, a big impact and kind of gets into plugs the idea in their heads of releasing the letters to like on social media, or I think she's the one that says it at the table when they're talking about, but I don't remember that man. This is after the water for nurturing mission. Nick gave Luke the letter on the mayday p to win bar exactly at the one bar in little America and the Nathan isn't that like the Waterford strip got cut short at that point. Like they had to go because Canada was like, Nope. Yeah, we changed our minds. We have a conversation. They did not have like apparently not far worse than we imagined. So that that's where we're at right now. That's where everybody's at June is got her Djeddai robe hood on looking like, she's going to murder full, but no one knows where exactly. I didn't put that together. She's all OBI wan kanobi. Got all the well. She's got like that. Anna can like if her eyes glowed at the end of that, that would've been like, I'm waiting for the red lines. We're not talking about that. Don't need to get into, sorry, Star Wars posts hair, Tate's me. I know. I know this is a classic steroids poster. This is a great thing. We love it. Stick little break here in the action her about halfway there. So you know, we're doing the costume contests that you can go inter at all consuming content dot com, which is our website. You can also hashtag us at Instagram, Twitter and Facebook. If you have a Handmaid's tale themed costume that you are doing, whether it is a straight up Qasr play, really high quality, fantastic. Spend a million hours on it, cost him or if it's a zombie apocalypse, Janine, whatever. I'm into that. That's awesome. 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And once again, Lizzie hail from hailstorm, we'll be judging the group competition of our costume competition which you can enter at our website all consuming content dot com, or hit us up with hashtag handmade Halloween, two thousand eighteen and show off your Handmaid's tale, inspired costume. We are so looking forward to it or getting ready to ramp things up here. So stick with us. Enjoy the rest of the show. Thank you. So that's where everybody is Emily's on her way to hopefully getting out of Gilead to Canada. She's in the van. She's on the road. Everybody else is where we left them, Judas in the street candidates in Canada and everybody else's where they are. So what do we know about season three heading into SOGA, surprising, mount, a spry. Amount, of course because they really likely to drop the news is. Yeah, very bad it. So the new a little note here, fun fact that I read yesterday, it was the show apparently doubled its your shit from season one on surprising that I was worried they were going to drop off because they were done with the book material, right? No, this is that's a huge number. So, and I can kind of see that just in the social media interactions and the people coming on there and talking about the show. So there was a bigger viewership for sure which is great for them the premier date as far as win. The next season starts. We don't know for sure, but the last two seasons, the first and second season. Both started at the end of April going into the first part of may. So I would imagine that those will be the same timeline which are sticking with as far as win, the trailers are coming. I did read this also that last year they did the first kind of teaser trailer and to beginning of January. So that's kind of the time line. You're looking for, they're trying to keep everything consistent in that area. So unless there's some kind of delay in filming or production that we'd rather not be which we have to wait long enough. Exactly. We've had twenty nine months actually teaches that music buttoned up Bruce. Yeah, what TI set get together. So now who's going to be back and what does he's in three older them? Here's what we know about characters officially from several sources. Bruce Lee, Bruce Miller, who did a, you know, post show post, finale press conference that we were on at Tiana did. And then also just other than a couple of pretty in depth interview after that to where he dropped his own Easter eggs aunt Lydia, not dead for those of you. Wondering, we're not speculating, and this is a fact, and that was one of the things that he burst came out and said right away because I think otherwise, otherwise, that was going to be one of those like things that people like trying to like, we'd allow out of him with lettuce side questions that kind of related to exactly and so he confirmed and then just last weekend out herself, confirmed it. So if you needed to hear it from another source, other than the guy that runs the show and the person that plays the character said, indeed that she is back and everything. BRUCE'S said that. We've read is she is going to rethink her methods and not in a positive way as an, oh, I need to be more caring and loving to the Handmaid's as in. I'm not doing this enough. I'm really interested to see this character revelation, even though it's probably in a new direction, I would not like it to go correct. I think it'll be fascinating. That is that's where she is headed. So she's back and going to be better than ever. I would imagine literally now Bradley Whitford character commander, Lawrence will also be back and Bruce Miller said, we will learn a lot more about him and he compared him to Oppenheimer who was one of the main scientists that was in charge of the project to make the Tomek bump in that he created also really regretted that later in life, I got away from him a little bit in that he created this thing and what it turned out to be was horrific and terrible. And now he's trying to dealing with the aftermath of that and that he was part of it. And how does he deal with that and make it make it ok, does even wanna make it? Okay. All right. Is it possible to make it okay, right. So as far as he's concerned, we've introduced to his wife who has some kind of mental illness issue going on clearly. And then also Corre who that more women don't have serious, don't end up like that you would magin that's probably what would happen to me if I were still alive in that situation, although I definitely would have been on the wall early on, correct. So we're also introduced to his Martha which is Corre who the bad ass and Breda r. m. MandA Bruegel has even said like, you know, she's not somebody to mess with next John. We get to know her more napkin a lover so. And I think it's great that has Martha has Cora who is one of the Martha's that was in the book in the long with Ray in the original Waterford household. So at I just thought that was such a nice little nod to relievers. We'll get more her and she's, she looks to be a force to be reckoned with Jerry Jones who played June's mother. Holly a apparently is in position to return. Now, I know. The one thing we found that just being flashbacks, we don't know that we don't know in what capacity that will be because she was put into the colonies fairly early on in the Gilliat takeover. We find out when they have that flashback where the doctor. Yes, she abortion hardcore feminists. Yeah, and we find out that in a flashback win, June and Moyer were in the red center like early on that stage. That's when they see a video where they show Holly or her mom in the colony. So if they're going by the normal things that the colonies she should by all rights. I mean just radiation poisoning. You gotta be dead by now in the age. She was already pretty hard hardcore, but pretty vital. You know, I saw this one, I, yeah, yeah. I mean, Emily was already losing teeth. So my guess is mostly flashbacks but who knows Josephine's an interesting. He said that he's glad that now that Fred is kind of out of the Sam bigamous stage of is e kind. Have a good guy is the bad guy now that he is fond villain. Anybody really believe he might be a good guy. I mean, after the fourth episode of the first season where he kind of turns into creepy, Fred, full-on, I think no. But I think there was maybe still some hope like especially when he's letting her meet Hannah and all this stuff that now that it's all on the table and he is speaking, which, yes, there is a Facebook group that is very pro commander, Fred that we have to talk about later. Yes, we will definitely talk about that in the Handmaid's fan to struggle to understand the wheel, talk to them. We might never know they might want to. They might have their case became. So he is very interested to see now that they've gotten past that part of Izzy. Bad. Is he good? Is you kind of in between and now that he has full on villain that he's happy because they can go on with that characters? I, I kind of agree that it'll give them a little more to work with him to kind of see where he wants to go. Serena is our big x factor here in that when we leave her, she is obviously questioning the society that she helped build that has turned against her decidedly to the tune of a daughter now and a finger. So two major losses. Anyone one voluntary? Yes, one voluntary one, not. And so there's no indication other than that, she let June leave with the baby, acknowledging the fact that she could not keep her safe. For herself. Acknowledging that to the extent, yes, at Waverley safe was to get our alad or get her up. So where does she go from there in that? She still doesn't have any more power than she hadn't it at this point probably has less because of what she did. What would you like are the other wives even going to talk to her at this point like she going to be shunned from society? Yeah, it's what happens with her. Power comes from uprising of the wives. Does that continue in like an underground kind of thing? Clearly not going to be able to do the lake. The wifely move of making her husband thinks that things are his idea. You know, she's not going to be able to pull that off anymore. I just I, she seems to be in a pretty desperate situation. Anything would what the finale did in the less you episodes was kind of ripped as veil off right of there is no more. Nobody's gonna front anymore. Everybody lives laid their cards on the table. Fred is who is Serena is we don't know who she is, but we know that she's not not knowing who she is. The thing I think it's not knowing how she is going to try to appear, right? Yeah. Yeah, which before she was obviously still trying to appear in the two when she was questioning actually was still still in that my next note Rita in Nick, what is the fallout from their parts? Because right now we're suspended, animation Nicosia upstairs, like we said and is still somewhere we don't know where so what? Yeah, what happens to them? We don't know. We have no indication of where that goes lady putting them in the other wives. What is the fallout from them partaking in this, you know, a confrontation with the government of Gilliat and also will that continue in some way, shape or form? Will there still be a smaller group of women who are trying to, you know, subvert what is happening in Gilead? We don't know Janine, what's the fallout from her whole plot with they Charlotte and helping to bring her back from this mysterious illness situation that they had and really not doing. It's adding. It's a proven fact that they've is do die. When love is withheld? Yes. Is the thing that happens to animals to? It's not just humans? Yes. So where does that go to the change? Because because of that relationship with the pair know quote, unquote parents, right? Yeah, that seems like probably nobody is going to be real happy with whatever situation comes out of that. Now, the other thing that I was thinking about that we don't know. And I know they moved fairly swiftly with Justice in general, and you'll have you can call Justice. Their brand is I forget the guy's name, but the guy who took over as the security guy who was the super creepy guy. Hell, yeah, that they ended up ended up getting like framingham and getting them caught. And is he out of the picture entirely? I kind of hope so, just because he creeps me out so much. He is super creepy. I just wonder if he is like in prison somewhere or did they just like do a swift, hey, you did this, you're hanging wall somewhere. They made it a thing that he Serena knew each other. So like I kind of feel like that warrants more like maybe that implies that we will see more of him or learn more about like his and his wife's, I guess, relationship with with the, I don't know. Do we meet more of their friends? Are they all creepy? Totally. They have to be, I don't. I know. And then as we said, what's going on with. Luke more run Aaron up in Canada where where's that story line go. Yeah. Hopefully we get to see more of that next season has. This was not enough. Well, if we talked about this a little bit on the with India and she was like from a story standpoint, they couldn't really let June go to Canada shifts the entire center of the story and now that Emily is going there. And yeah, she makes to Canada and there, and then we get to know more. I feel like you're scaring so many people, I well, we don't know one of the things we don't and I, you know, I don't wanna make the feel comfortable situation. They don't need to be, but but really if you're watching the show, you probably should keep in mind that we don't know if she is going to make it to Canada or not, or if either or both of them is going to make it to Canada or not. So be prepared, always be prepared, don't trust anything struck show true, don't assume. So that is where we're season three. Like I said, every podcast we do, we will update that we won't go through the whole thing. I just wanted to get a kind of state. Over the Gilead nation right now, and then you need them watchers xactly. And so now everybody knows where everybody's at and what we wonder is going to happen. So we'll just fill in details as we get them. And like I said, we have more podcast coming up to talk about things. We are gonna talk about kinds of fans stuff. I did a little pole last night and I'm gonna record all the reactions about that which pretty hilarious voted in. Did you vote on the phone? What was your vote? I think it was that I wanted to see more. I can't even remember now because the there were it was hard to choose. Oh, yeah. I think I voted that. I really wanted to see more of commander, Lawrence own Emily situation. The one interesting thing that got some votes was that Nick disappeared. Somebody added this as an option. Yeah, anything back disappear happened. Right? Nothing happen. Yeah. And when I think about it, they did gloss over at fairly quickly. But as I, you know, when I think about it totally, as I said before, like they are very want to cover up things and brush them under the rug. Rarely, something that fried would not have been able to cover up. I don't know. He is not very good at things in case you haven't noticed. It's very true. It seems Serena didn't have anything to do with it. So you feel like the remedy else made the call to let him go, but that somebody else must not have really known about what was happening at that house, you know. But if if Nick was like, hey, come into water for, it's definitely up to something you gotta let me go. I gotta go back like that would be believable, but what would he say? I don't know. I don't know. There are so many unknowns in Nick's situation that I am not sure, but very interested to learn what happened while he was gone as usual. 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Episode 216: Bring Us A Gargoyle

Defenders Of The Night

1:13:49 hr | Last week

Episode 216: Bring Us A Gargoyle

"School took bender the most trusted source for top to bottom coverage of everyone's favorite mid nineties animated program. I am your host. Liz circle. I am your host daniel williams liz. Hello hello god. It's been ages pal. I know it feels like it and one hundred years old does hudson. You're finally gone. You're truthful this feels right. This feels good. I am one thousand years old. And i feel it in my bones and i'm okay with it as long as heavier comfy chair they can kick back. I've got crappy couch. Does that count. Yeah i mean. I guess it's better than a pile of hay. Yes liz today. we're gonna talk about a shoko gargoyles. My goodness really. Tell me more today. We're talking susan. Two episodes sixteen revelation. I got mixed feelings about this one. I'll tell you what because i liked the episode. I hate the main subject. Get all detective. Mat- is not necessarily one of our favorite people no and It is not helping himself in this one. I'll tell you anyway. This aired october. Twenty sixth nineteen ninety-five. We went on a two week break. I wonder why weird it was directed by our pal frank. Par he's back from vacation will welcome back. Frank yeah and it was written by writer of questionable success so far cary bates which episode carry him before he did the silver falcon and he also did high noon. I believe he really likes the eliminate ones. He's a guy is i got it. I think he came in with an agenda. He's like you know what i'm going to introduce. You know this is me. I'm doing this in frank. Pars like Yeah okay buddy. Cary bates has some old angel fire websites. You know. he's got some conspiracy blogs. Liz powell goals. It's that time you know what we're talking about. If you like the show. God damn open up your favorite podcast here and leave defenders of the night a five star rating and a nice review. Not or an was. You know what i decided. Let if our pal screenshot that and shoot us an email. We will send them. Calamity cast swag. We are bribing. People full reviews now. Let's do it so i will personally some postcards okay. I don't know that means what's it going to say is i don't know either. I'll make it up as i go if i send them. It's just gonna be gargoyles. Don i like it. I know you do. And that's what liz. We're starting off at the hotel kabbah. It's a new place. Where in medias res baby. Mace malone of all people has trapped goliath in this death trap hotel it's decked out with steel shutters over the windows and a room that turns upside down and drops victims into a spinning blade. Liz i mean. I've stayed some shitty hotels but this is crazy. This is a major like homes action going on here. Have you ever been in such a place. How does it even work. Lots and lots of money to spend on stupid things. Yeah i immediately was like. What are the physics of this room. But i gotta tell you. I was into it. I was like oh. This is exciting. It was exciting and especially so we see goliath doing his best to survive this death trap mesa's controlling. The things is every episode has to have a huge control center no matter where they're located. There's some massive control system. You took his cues from big mac. Yeah he's got a bunch of tv screens. Yeah and the camera pans back and who is behind good elmes detective matt. Bluestone matthew perry bluestone. What are you doing working with. Illuminate man's a hell of an opening. I was into it immediately on the best interest. We've had in a while. Despite matt bluestone i was like yes. Keep going harder faster and you know i immediately was like what the fuck dude to man like. You're going to do that to your partner. I was outraged. I had a lot of emotions and reactions to ensure yeah and mace malone who is got to be one hundred and twenty years old bt doug. He hits us with this really quick perfect explanation of map bluestone. We're two minutes in. let's hear a clip. Luminosity will be pleased. Mr bluestone who make an excellent judas. It's now you know what. I didn't like lose the voiceover that we got in this episode. The matt bluestone detective noir thing. I i wasn't into it. Kinda liked it well. Maybe it's because. I hate matt bluestone. Shut up. You're probably got mess. Centric episode tried to hate it. Listen i couldn't matt is so over the top like he thinks he's so important in his own brain that this style made a lot of sense to me. Does i mean we all think we're the lead in our own stories. But he's like. I'm the lead in several people's stories so i think this was actually the perfect style of episode for him every so often. They're like we're going to do something completely different style wise and and sometimes it works out sometimes not so much. I think to me this wert all right. You know what. I agree you change my mind. I mean you're right. I think it's a good idea to switch shown every once in a while you know still hate matt. But i'm not now. Yes yes so from there we gotta go back in time and we gotta figure out how it all started because this typical new are we have to go back to the beginning right so we go to. I don't know this place is probably the name. It's a centrally located park in new york city and matt is meeting with martin hacker. You remember martin hacker. He's the fbi agent we met in the silver falcon who is absolutely hammered with dream boat. Yeah he looked her up and down as a mass looking for more information on mace malone stepson. Think he's putting clues together. And even though we all know martin hackers going to help matt. He still takes this opportunity. This shit on matt's investigation now liz. I'm two mines here. Because again i hate met and i think he's a doofus but unfortunately he is fucking right about the illumine naughty as it turns out the app so i say that yes. Let's shit talk matt but not about this target his stupid personality but not as investigation because he's spot on here this much hate to admit it. He's spot on. Matt was kicked out the fbi because of him doing shit like this and martin was his partner back then so maybe it's just ingrained in him that he has just be shitty. Yeah okay all right. I do love that. He was kicked out of the fbi doofus of all the things. We don't know about matt. That one thing explains everything so we don't need to know any more facts about matt bluestone bats. Yeah let's why can't do this. Detective work itself. It's his job his job as detective stuff. I don't know. I guess maybe the fbi has the ability to get information that he can't as a lowly detective maybe for the information that he ends up getting. I feel like nobody should be giving out. you know. he's in the witness protection program. But you know whatever. I'm just going to tell you anyway. You can't do that. here's this name. Here's address here's a social security number. We're tight so it's all right. I don't think that's how that program works. It's not how it's supposed to work. If tv has taught me anything in tv has taught me most things i know. Did you see the look of utter glee on matt's face was like oh goody goody and then as voice over cuts in is like i wanted to follow up right then but duty calls you liz. We cut to the police station and see. Captain pantsuit. walk out of the women's bathroom. All matt stands in the hallway outside door duty call and then before the door of the bathroom close all the way matt like russia's up and he says hey detective dream boat there liz. She says no. I've been in there the last twenty minutes and she hasn't. Liz is captain pantsuit. Okay i don't think i realized that was a bathroom. That was her office. I didn't catch that poor tummy. Well as i learned later a few minutes later it's actually the locker room but we don't learn that for i'm gonna say thirty seconds so i'm like oh she was spent a lotta time. Pooping this was all fairy elaborate. Poop joke okay. So she wasn't in the bathroom slash locker corrections hanging out in the janitors closet around the corner. Which does that connect up to the clock tower. I think that's what they're insinuating. But that's weird. That kinda bummed me out you know like the clock. Tower doesn't have a cool hidden back their building door. That's gutter like fancy knob or something that leads up to a world of wonder and imagination. I don't know all right. Willie wonka just a door in the back of the janitors closet. What they've shown us before they've only shown us her like going down to the end of a hallway and then going up the staircase. I wonder if what we're missing is a transition between the janitors closet and like like a pull down said a astaire's an attic. Maybe yeah maybe. Oh we're missing that connective peace anyway. Liz matt rounds the corner and he's like fair you are. I've been looking all over for you for all day. Where have you been in. If i was detective dream. Oh and i'd be like crawl out of my ass. I don't like you that again. That's me. I have a bias. I makes me wonder like how much time while. She's on the clock. Is she up with the gargoyles. Like if he's been trying to find her for so long. What the what does she do in all working. That's not a yours or matt bluestone business. Okay she needs them. Sweet sweet goliath time. Listen maybe she's taking since you will photos of her with a large gargoyles statue. I a lot of things. And this is what i learned that. It wasn't the bathroom that the captain came out earlier. Because here we see dream hotel a very elaborate lie. Can i play this life for you because it's way more than we needed there you are. I've been all over the place looking for you. I was just Returning them up the sink in the women's locker room spilled over. I spent the last half an hour cleaning it up. What a mess. She was lying right to my face. Just say you were getting Some paper towel. Like don't say anything like i was in the janitors closet. I had to grab some supplies was in here all day. I don't know man if she were up with the gargoyles okay. How long has she been with the gargoyles. Nail you think. She would have some goto well-thought-out responses what she's doing up there with them. I always feel like if you're gonna lie. Keep it vague. So you've got room to maneuver you know. Yeah so matt's obviously suspicious as he ought to be because his dream. But you didn't do your best work there. Well how was she supposed to know. He was lurking outside the the women's locker. It is her partner. She should be at least the fact that they need to communicate with each other. She's like oh this dude's a creep so he was probably hanging out either by the women's or by the women's locker room. I don't know you know what why lie when the truth sounds better. Just say you were up in the clock tower to give any more details than that so he suspicious and he's like hey by the way i have this new lead for the luminosity and race malone. She just like okay. I don't care. Yeah like he is an idiot and we all agree on that. But you know mace malone's old-timey partners alive and well and is criminal so right who's to say mason still around like if nothing else just hear the dude out because it's easier than blowing him off. Yeah you're kind of a jerk. Yes he is dumb but again the aluminum israel. So i don't always liked the way dream boat talks to me. Yeah it's needlessly means sometimes and that's coming from me like that's not her personality like it is totally within my wheelhouse to be mean to matt bluestone a real life like i would totally like fucking aloom ninety. Whatever jerk off but that doesn't feel like her no especially it's like oh secret society. Uk matt girl. Your love fucking gargoyles. Your boyfriend has a tail. You have no room to talk about any shit like that. Their relationship is weird because at the end of the day they still like each other. But you know it. Both keeping secrets at this point. And i think matt knows. She's keeping a secret and i don't think he likes that. 'cause i feel like before this episode as a series has gone on light. Their relationship was starting to get better. She was like okay. Fine near my partner. I'll stop resisting list as much. But i'm intrigued to see where the relationship goes after this episode. Although it might be interesting to see the gargoyles get to interact with more humans in a positive way. So maybe i'm not interested so much in where their relationship goes. But i'm interested to see how the gargoyles interact with matt as they get to know him better. Maybe which gardai think would like him the most of broadway. They're both detectives. Oh my god. They go trenchcoat shopping together but only on halloween. Okay so from there. We end up going to the v-shape health club. Ooh my can. I just say that the male gaze is alive and well in disney cartoons of boy. The scene opens up with some gratuitous sexy lady. Bits is the woman drinks sexily from a sexy water fountain filled with six and she's wearing a leotard with her ass cheeks hanging out and the camera focuses follows her for no reason. I mean there's never reason for this but this is absurd. This is a children's cartoon here you go for the the lady loving people out there who are watching this with their kids. oh wink. here's a drawing of a but listen. I'm pro but i don't care to see butts in my cartoons. I don't care about that. So sixty lady leads us to the stepson of mace malone. Yeah jack and. He's a retired banker that likes to spend his afternoon pumping iron. Yeah did you recognize that. This was ed asner. i did not it is. It's our old pal. Hudson not doing barely passable scottish accent. That's so funny. Yeah he doesn't do a lot of secondary or tertiary characters in the show so matches up to harass a retiree about his dead mother. That's why he came looking for jack. Yep jack's mom. Liz was flow dane. A silent film star. Jeff does not look old enough to be the son of silent film star now but okay and his dad was a god. Damn bomb liz above jack. Jack told me. I don't know if you heard multiple times. Jack thinks that his step-dad is a bum. Bum and jaba quantum. He's a bum. I guess what. Jack is trying to say as as malone was not a good stepfather so mad. He came here to show. Jack who again is in the witness protection program but didn't leave the city that he grew up our presumably. He is from new york city and stayed in new york city in the witness protection program. Okay he came to show jack a picture from his own. mother's funeral. Where maybe you can see. Mace malone in the background. That's why he showed up here. Yeah i guess just to have jack verify. Like oh i guess is mmj what he's like. Oh yeah that might be him. Jack doesn't know it doesn't care because again maze malone above is about them so matt shows up to speak to this person in the witness protection program because he wants to know where flow is buried and i feel like you could probably get that information from like a dozen other sources like why did he have to harass this person. Who's in hiding that one piece of information he's looking for. He's like where she buried. But we do learn that she was buried under her real name he know. Typically even actress has a stage name. You can figure out what their real name is. Yeah some actual detective work dude. That's a very good point because again. He's a detective supposedly. Yeah and i like. The internet wasn't like as much thing shirley detective people had databases. They can utilize. Yeah i mean this seems like public information. I mean you might have to put some effort into it but again detective right. It's kind of the whole gig. So matt broke. Jack's cover because he's an asshole and we have to go back to the clock tower. Yeah because matt is also very busy. He's working on his aluminum case. And also just fucking with dream boat so she goes upstairs to the clock tower and mad as a standing in the living room kitchen area. Of what i'm calling boats crash pad and i don't know why he's so weird here like he's acting even more suspicious but really. I think that this setup should answer some questions he had. I think he's upset because he helped her carry that. Tv in she's at. Oh it's for some friends now. She's claiming for her private little space. And if you lied to me about that what else have you been lying about. Also why do you get your crash area to rest and everything. I'm your partner. Should i get to have access to this too. And i could see why his feelings would be hurt. I don't know if she is even a little bit standoffish of strangers that hold. Tv scenario was the first time she met him and she didn't know that he was a detective before she even with our partners of her partner so he was just a guy. Yeah so. I don't know that i'd be particularly forthcoming with what i'm doing with. Tv to some stranger. Because it's none of your fucking business. Stats varying cheryl yeah. I forgot that was before they had officially met the other thing like she's got seniority over you. Do she gets a crash pad. Also the captain doesn't know so. Keep your fucking mouth. Shut not hurting anyone man. Just chill. yeah she just needs a place to unwind well luckily for her she impressively changes the subject to jack. And if there's one thing that matt likes to talk about more than anything else in the world it's his weird luminosity conspiracy theories so he's like. Oh yeah let's talk about my shit. You're dumb crash. Pat is boring. And i've got conspiracies my question though. Liz yeah perhaps you can answer. This is how does she know. The the lead from earlier about mace malone stepson. Because he didn't mention that bit he didn't get that far because she blew him off. Just been sloppy writing. I agree. I think you're right. Matt is like a fucking dog with a tennis ball so he's been properly distracted now. He can talk about his favorite subject. He tells dream boat. That apparently every thursday in all motherfucker leaves a rose. The crypt of flora dreidel dribble not dreidel. I am the worst when it comes to names set. Say i don't care so he's gonna go check it because that is jack. Mom flow de. Yeah so we had to the cemetery. Pine lawn sounds nice. I guess i don't know and there there he is. There's the old man that'll man's got a fucking hand. Tattoo me someday. Liz oldest. Fuck hand. Tattoos sick mustache. You've been saying for years. He went and tattoos one day. One day so matt surprises old dude and there is such a huge info dump here that i'm not even going to try to explain it. I'm just going to play the clip. It's easier yeah all these years and you still have a soft spot for flora must have been tough becoming dead to the world abandoning your wife but you had no choice. The alumina decided. You were irreplaceable. Excuse me nobody knew. More about underworld dealings than mace malone wants the gangs found out an outside faction learned their darkest secrets. You a marked man. You had to disappear thanks to you. The aluminum had the goods to cut themselves in. They've been organized crime silent partner ever since this whole thing annoyed me a little bit because i just feel like mace m