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A highlight from Part 1: USAs World Cup Collapse, Basebrawls, Jets Optimism, Life in The G-League and The OC 20 Years Later | with Gabe York and Zoe Simmons
"Coming up, an unexpected two -part podcast cameo from me. It's next. We're also brought to you by the Ringer Podcast Network, where we turned over Sean Fennesey and Amanda Dobbins' big picture feed to Brian Raftery. It's a narrative podcast called, Do We Get to Win This Time? How Hollywood Made the Vietnam War. You can find it on the big picture starting on Tuesday. And it is an idea I'm really excited about because it came from a class that I did as a senior in college in 1992. Me and my friend Horgs talked a movies professor into doing a special Vietnam War movies class where we watched basically every Vietnam War movie that had been made up to 1992 and then tried to write a big picture term paper about it. And the thing that was really fascinating about that class and something that stuck with me was just that whole concept of Hollywood reinventing the entire Vietnam experience under the premise of, Did We Get to Win This Time? So we got Brian involved and he turned the idea into an awesome, awesome podcast. I even went and dug up the term paper that I wrote 31 years ago. I thought it was gonna be horrendous. It wasn't bad. I was kind of proud of myself, retroactively 31 years later. Anyway, Do We Get to Win This Time? How Hollywood Made the Vietnam War. It is gonna be in the big picture podcast starting on Tuesday. So that's one piece of business. Second, new rewatchables on Monday night. It is the 300th movie that we've done. It's a special one. We're doing National Lampoon's Vacation. It was time. Meet Chris Ryan, Van Lathan. Yeah, and Van was pushing for it because we wanted to do Christmas Vacation during the holidays and you can't do Christmas Vacation. If we do National Lampoon's Vacation, super fun. Can't wait for you to listen to it. And we'll be running the video at some point on the YouTube channel, youtube .com slash Bill Simmons, where we put up a whole bunch of rewatchables podcasts in case you missed it. Boogie Nights is up there now. Goodfellas, Independence Day, just a slew of them. So if you're bored and you wanna throw on some rewatchables and watch us make fun of each other, there you go. Last but not least, I don't wanna say this is the most important, but it's certainly the thing I spent the most time on. Our documentary that we did about the G League with Religion of Sports and Ringer Films, we combined, and it is premiering on Tuesday, August 8th. It is called Destination NBA, A G League Odyssey. It's really good. We immersed ourselves into the G League season. We followed Scoot Henderson, Gabe York, Ryan Terrell, Mason Jones, and Denzel Valentine. And the big question was, what is this world like? What's it like to be in the G League? And I am really proud of where we landed with it. And we even have, much later in this podcast, Gabe York is gonna come on. He's one of the five that we followed, and he's gonna tell us what it's like as you're holding on to your dream in your late 20s. We try not to spoil the doc too much with Gabe, but I really liked him. He's probably the guy that jumps out of the doc in the most sympathetic way. So look forward for you to watch it. It is prime video, Tuesday, August 8th, Destination NBA. A G League Odyssey. You love basketball, just watch it, it's good. So there you go. This is gonna be part one of a two -part podcast. Gabe is coming up later. My daughter Zoe Simmons is coming up later because we did a whole bunch of OC stuff on the Prestige TV podcast. I was even on two of the episodes. But I ended up watching season one of the OC. And my daughter was watching with us and loved the show. And she was born a year and a half after it premiered. So me and her broke down season one from the perspective of what is it like when somebody 18 watches the OC, a show that is now two decades old. The anniversary was actually August 6th. And what she liked, what she didn't like, what people aren't doing anymore for her kind of audience. And we just dove into it. So that is much later. First, coming out of the gate, I'm gonna open a six -pack because we have a lot to discuss over the past three weeks, all the stuff I missed. So that's gonna be part one. And then part two, which is gonna go up later on Sunday night, me and Rossello doing this evergreen idea that we've always wanted to do. And this seemed like the perfect time because nothing's happening in basketball. So that's gonna be part two later tonight. Part one coming up. First, our friends from ProJax. What's up? All right, I'm taping this. It is Sunday afternoon Pacific time. And I'm gonna open a six -pack. There's a bunch of stories in sports and culture that happened over the last three weeks. I was just writing stuff down, things that would have been fun for podcast segments. I was just like, man, I wish I could have given my thoughts on that. Just gonna rip through them. So I have six and then maybe a couple bonus ones at the end. The first one, the biggest one, was the US women's soccer team, which lost today in penalty kicks to Sweden, scored zero goals in the last two games, scored one goal in the last three games, and that was off a corner kick. You could feel from the beginning that something was off with this team. It was all the ways. You knew in a checklist of what are the red flags? There were just red flags galore. And the only person who was really calling it out in time over and over again was Carli Lloyd, who was doing the Fox studio show. And she was the one person in the horror movie who knows the house is haunted. And everyone's like, shut up. You're not being patriotic. You just wish you were still on the team. She was right. She was right from the get -go. This team, you could see it before the Vietnam game when it was like, look at the new Nike suits. Look at these new suits. And they're all like styling as they head into the locker room. And they're running commercials. And every player has a commercial. There's players who've never done anything of that commercials. And the vibe was just off. They only beat Vietnam three -nothing in a bracket where goal differential was gonna be super -duper important. And that was a huge red flag. And we did the usual thing that we've been doing since 2019, 2015 of, oh, well, they almost scored a bunch of times. Oh, well, if that had gone in or some bad luck. There was just an arrogance to this team. Like they were carrying themselves like the defending champs, the same way like the Denver Nuggets would go into next NBA season. Like we're the champs. I was like, yeah, you are the champs because the season just happened. The World Cup happened four years ago. Everyone's four years older or wasn't on the team. And you could see they wanted to build the team instead of around the identity of, here are these new up and coming awesome stars that are gonna be in your life. They were really latching on to Alex Morgan and Megan Rapinoe. Alex Morgan's 34, Megan Rapinoe's 37. I think one of the differences between the discourse with women's sports and men's sports is that in men's sports, we grasp for angles. And if somebody is disappointing in some way, we really go nuts. Like think of how James Harden's been treated over the last 12 years. So he's one of the 35 best players ever and has taken just an incredible amount of shit. Oh my God, the playoffs, look at his game log. Oh, he choked again. Alex Morgan, who scored twice in her first two games in the World Cup in 2011, she scored once in 2015 in seven games. She scored six times in 2019, five against Thailand in a game that was 13 to nothing, one in the other six, and then scored nothing in the four games this time around. If you take away that Thailand game, she has scored two goals in the last 17 World Cup games. This is the striker. This is the one who's supposed to be the most dangerous player in the field, who's supposed to produce goals. And she hasn't produced goals since the mid 2010s on the national level. And yet it's Alex Morgan. She was supposed to be the next one. We got to keep propping her up and pretending she's a superstar. She's not a superstar. She's really honestly never been a superstar. She certainly hasn't been as impactful as somebody like Abby Wambach was. So you have the team built around her. She's got to play. They play her the entire game, game two, the entire game, game three. She plays like 95 minutes in this game today, and they don't score goals. And the announcers just won't talk about it. It's like being on an AYSO team that your kid's on, and the coach is playing somebody at striker, and everyone's like, why don't they play Sally at striker instead of the coach's daughter? It's like, oh, you know, the coach's daughter. She's got to play there. So you have that, and then you have Rapinoe, who's 37 years old, who's just, unfortunately, great career, legendary, true legend, huge big time player. And when you hit your late 30s in soccer, it's a wrap. She looked like Yudana Rapinoe, not big Rapinoe, and comes out for the last 25 minutes of this game and can't do anything, and then misses the penalty kick. That's the thing. If you're beholden to past performance, you can't expect to succeed in the moment. And I did feel like, what were this team's strengths? Speed. They had Sophia Smith, who really was bad the last three games on the left wing. Like, she just, she couldn't even connect passes. Trinity Rodman, who's a beast. Lynn Williams, who's super fast and athletic and had some really nice moments the last two games. And then Alyssa Thompson, who's the prodigy, who's the, you know, potential tiger or LeBron of this team. 18 years old, best high school player I've ever had. They won't even throw her out there. But this was not a team that could connect passes. They weren't, like, especially creative. The coaching was just bizarre, and we'll never see that guy again. But it was like, the one thing they did have was speed, especially the forwards, and they just threw that away. And Alex, you know, couldn't do anything. So now they're out. It's the most disappointing finish of the last 25 years for the women's team. And it reminds me in a lot of ways that 2004 Olympic basketball team that we had, the USA team. And I tweeted this, I think after the second game, because that was a team that was between eras, like this one was, where all the best players on that 2014, the ones in their primes, weren't that good, except for Duncan. And Duncan was completely banged up. He'd played so many NBA games the last couple of years. I think his knee was hurt. But, you know, it was Iverson and Marbury. The talent, it just was a between eras. And you had guys on the bench, like LeBron and Carmelo and Wade, who were four years away. Kobe wasn't on the team. And it just felt generationally, like we caught that team in the wrong time. The style was wrong. And we learned all these lessons and we moved on. 2008, we win. There's a documentary about it. But this team felt like it was between eras. The Alex Morgan, Rapinoe era, which was basically done. And then you have this era coming up with Rodman and Sophia Smith and Alyssa. And, you know, it's just four years from now, we'll probably be fine. But they need to re -imagine this. And I think if you're gonna learn any lesson from this, it doesn't matter what happened four years ago. It's the World Cup. It matters what's happening now. So that's one thing. Second thing. So Jaylen Brown gets this huge contract, $304 million. Some people seem surprised that it was that much money. Chris Ryan even took a shot at it when we did our library watchables. Hurt my feelings a tiny bit. Mainly because I didn't really have a comeback. Rosella did something on his podcast about how this actually makes sense. This amount of money, when you think of how the salary cap has climbed just since 2015, and it's gonna keep climbing. And there's this world you can go into where you think about just how much everything is gonna cost in the NBA four or five years from now, that Jaylen Brown at $70 million isn't actually gonna be that intimidating. The same way we feel about Tobias Harris for $40 million now, or Klay Thompson, $40 million now. Yeah, you don't really wanna pay $40 million for Klay Thompson, but you can survive it. And I think that's gonna be where the Celtics land with Jaylen. Here's why they had to do it. They're the favorites on FanDuel right now. They're plus 470. The thing that made them the most special and has made them the most special for the last five, six years is the Jaylen Brown -Jason Tatum combo. They've been incredibly successful. The team itself has made five conference finals in the last seven years. They came super close to making the finals last year. I have now gone into the what if zone with that Celtics team where what if Tatum doesn't hurt his ankle on the first play? Do we beat Miami? They were close is the point. And when you're that close, you can't fuck around. This is not Bradley Beal resigning with Washington for 50 million a year when everybody knows you can't get past the eight seed with Bradley Beal. This is different. You're trying to win a title. You're trying to keep all your optionality open. The thing that's a little scary about it, nobody seems to totally know if he wants to be in Boston. This is something we've discussed on this pod. It's been floating out there. The fact that he wasn't happy about landing in the Kevin Durant trade rumors a couple years ago. And just in general, where the league is now, where as Woj called it, the transfer portal, where people get their contract first and then they decide what they want to do. And I think for the Celtics, they know they bought themselves a year with Jalen and they are still one of the favorites to win the title. And a lot of it's going to depend on health and Porzingis. You could also, I don't want to make the case, but you might be able to make the case that Brown had a fucked up hand last year. Cause he did. Cause he sliced his hand open. It was bleeding even during the Philly series. And maybe that was why his ball handling went sideways. Listen, you got to do the contract. It just breaks your brain. I remember a million years ago, Sports Illustrated and Inside Sports say every year they would have like a salary issue. And they would talk about these guys are making $1 million a year. And it seemed like so much money. And now where we're heading with the money, plus the NBA is the meteorites deal. The moment any of these guys becomes unhappy, what do you do? Because you're paying Jalen, let's say you're paying him 55 million a year. Plus he is the trade kicker, which the team has to pay. Right? So if he decides after a year, you know what? I'm tired of being the scapegoat. Everybody loves Jason. I'm like the middle brother of this team. I want my own team. I want to go to Houston or Atlanta. You got to trade me. What are the Celtics going to do? On top of who would want out, you don't have a lot of options and you turn into what the situation Portland's in with Deem. And then on top of it, it's so much money. It's impossible to get any sort of a fair trade for the guy. So they had to do it. And optionality the that comes out of it is frightening. I remember in the early 2000s, when the first time the contracts kind of went nuts and you would see that people get signing like six -year, $100 million deals, seven -year, $110 million deals. And the Celtics really, really stupidly traded for Vin Baker. One of the worst trades of the last 30 years for Boston Sports. A trade so bad, you knew it instantaneously. And I wrote a piece that you can probably find somewhere in the ESPN archives about it, where I compared it to the end of Thelma Louise when Harvey Keitel is running toward the cliff trying to stop the car from going off the cliff. That's how I thought about the Vin Baker trade when it happened. Then it happens and you just had this salary albatross. It's a salary cap league. And you're like, wow, we just threw away 20 % of our salary cap on this trade. There's going to be a couple of those that are just franchise killers. And whether that leads to them bringing back the amnesty clause, who knows? I wish, I've made this, I've had this idea before. I wish that they had a rule in there that if you drafted a guy, every year that he stays in the team, you get rewarded in some way from a salary cap luxury tax type thing, right? So Jaylen was 2016 draft, this would be his eighth year. Maybe like after the seventh year, because that's usually like the third contract. The guy stays in the team, maybe each year after that, he doesn't count for 2 % of the luxury tax, up to like 30%, something like that. The point is the Warriors should be rewarded for keeping Draymond and Klay and Curry from a tax standpoint, that they were that smart to draft those guys, keep those guys together. They should be incentivized, the players, to want to stay with them because there's some luxury tax stuff that the team gets. And the team should want to be incentivized to take care of those guys because it's also beneficial to them. I just wish they figured out some version of that rule. Anyway, Jaylen was always signing for $304 million. Talk to me in a year, I'll keep my fingers crossed. Next thing, I missed the running back pity party. This was crazy. The running backs all got together and they were really upset about how much money they made. And I don't know what to tell you. There's too many running backs and not enough running back spots. And I don't know if you're trying to build a responsible salary cap team in a collectively bargained era, why would you spend $30 million over two years on a running back unless the running back was awesome? Nobody even wants to spend more than $11 million on running back. So I knew that this was crazy when Damien Harris, who was on the Patriots, who I thought was really good. He's maybe not an elite running back, but a good running back, right? Somebody that if he had been on the Chiefs, he easily could have started for the Chiefs. And he signed with the Bills for like one year, 2 million. And when that happened, combined with Pacheco on the Chiefs' seventh round pick, they won the Super Bowl with him. It's just, this position's devalued. I work on this player, I've been actually working on it the last couple of weeks where I try to rank the players for blue chippers, red chippers, pink chippers, honorable mention, and have this whole point system. And so quarterbacks, Mahomes, who's the alpha of that position, he's worth 10 points. And you could even see this in the point spread. If Mahomes gets hurt, the Chiefs are 10 points, nine points, whatever, less than what they would be as a favorite. They'd switch to an underdog. And you go on down the line. Jalen Hurts, I had him as an eight. I had Joe Burrow as a nine. And you go on, you keep going down, and it's like, Geno Smith's probably a two. But then you look at some of the other positions and you have to value them the same way the salary cap values them and teams value them. Guards, they aren't worth that much. Running backs, sorry, they're not worth that much. My top running back was three points because ultimately running backs don't really matter that much. In the last like five, six years, I would say Derrick Henry was the only running back that you could definitively say, this guy almost won the Super Bowl. Like he was that good. Other than that, you know, it's plug and play, quarterbacks, it's receivers. It's much harder to find the number one receiver. Every team needs one. It's much more tangible if you don't have the number one receiver. And it's much easier to just kind of scrap together the running back position. And yet people went nuts about this. We ironically had this in the NBA with centers. You know, Vucevic, who's a really good offensive player, he signed for 60 million for three years, 20 million a year. And Jaylen Brown's going to make $52 million a year. Is Jaylen Brown two and a half times better than Vucevic? No, it's just, he plays a way more important position. You can only play one center at a time. You can patch together the center position. You could have like Isaiah Hartenstein for $8 million. You could, you know, get Robert Williams for 16. You don't need to spend what Phoenix did on Eaton where they're paying $8 and $30 million a year at center. And you don't really need to do that. You kind of feel obligated if you don't want to lose the asset. But I think the NBA is going to go this way eventually where unless it is Jokic or Embiid, the center or Bam Adebayo, it's a bonus. You could argue that was already an overpay. They gave him a huge extension. The Lakers just gave Anthony Davis $60 million a year as an extension. I would argue that's a little frightening. I feel like you could patch together the center position. What really matters in basketball is having the creator. And this was the argument five years ago with Luka versus Eaton for the number one pick. And I made this argument. It was like, go look at who wins the NBA title every year. It's always the people who have the creator. There's somebody who's on the perimeter of the ball in their hands. Even Jokic, who wins the title this year, he was a creator. He's not a typical center, right? He's basically their point guard on offense who could post up. So this happened in the NBA. Nobody went nuts. And this is happening in football. And is this where football is. If you want to make the most amount of money playing in the NFL, I don't know why you would be a running back. I would be a cornerback. I would be a wide receiver. I'd be an edge rusher. But if you're a running back, you know your shelf life's probably like five, six years. You know the money is not totally gonna be there. Now they're in this, like you have people like JK Dobbins, like, I might hold out. It's like, really? You didn't barely even play in the field. Barkley said he was gonna hold out. And then, you know, probably looked at it. And the money for Barkley is like 10, 11 million. That's unfortunately the market. So you can't fix this. They collectively bargained it. And until we get to the next CBA, I don't know how you fix it. I thought it was really weird. It felt like people had nothing to talk about. And it was like, ah, let's feel bad for running backs. All right, let's take a break. And then I'm gonna finish the rest of the six pack. All right, picking up on the six pack. We're gonna talk a little more football. I talked about the running back pity party. This is a different kind of party. The Jets optimism, which has just been stunning to me over the course of July. I have Jets fans in my life. These are people that usually have no hope and are very reminiscent of the pre -2004 Red Sox fans, just assuming the worst at all times. Why does God hate us? All that stuff. And now they have this crazy optimism based on the fact that they brought in Aaron Rodgers, who I did not think was very good last year, just throwing that out there. I wouldn't say he was bad, but for Rodgers, he was bad. I mean, we thought Rodgers was, he was the reigning MVP and we thought he was still one of the five or six most impactful players in the league. And I don't wanna read stats to you for the next six minutes, but deep balls, he was bad. Turnovers, he was bad. Leadership, he was bad. And the case for Rodgers coming back would be, well, he's gonna be rejuvenated. The Jets, New York City. This is his team. He got away from Green Bay. He's got Hackett back. I get it, but he's also at an age where we've really only seen Tom Brady succeed at a high, high level at the age that Rodgers is at. I was trying to figure it out. I have my QB ratings and I had, you know, the top tier is Mahomes and Burrow and Allen and Herbert and Hertz. Those have to be the top five. Then it drops off and it's Lamar Jackson and Lawrence. And then Rodgers, probably a hair underneath him with a chance to play himself up with those guys. But from what we saw last year, I'm not ready to put him there. So he's the 10th best quarterback in the league, probably. 10th or ninth best quarterback in the league, probably. Well, they have no offensive line. And I don't understand why people keep glossing over this where it's like, hey, Rodgers and Garrett Wilson, he's one of the best receivers in the league and Breece Hall's going to come back and the defense is really good. And it's like, yeah, the offensive line is terrible. Beckton and Dwayne Brown, sure tackles again. And then you have Robert Salah as the coach, who I cannot say I thought that Jets were crisply coached last year. Whatever he was doing with Zach Wilson was insane. No idea if that guy's even a decent coach. So I'm already worried about your offensive line, the age of your quarterback, and the competency of your coach. And that's before we get into the hard knocks curse, because for some reason they're doing hard knocks, the incredible Super Bowl hype already. And then we have the schedule, which is the AFC East has just got screwed by the schedules this year. The Jets, just for quarterbacks in 17 games, they got to play Josh Allen twice, they got to play Mahomes, Herbert, Hertz, Dak Prescott, and Deshaun Watson. And then they also have to play Miami twice. We'll see what we get out of two this year. And then a really good Pats defense. And then Denver, who knows, they might be rejuvenated. So Danny Dimes, they have to play him. It is a brutal schedule, so you have that. And then on top of everything else, you're the Jets. I was there with the Red Sox before 2004, and this is probably just as bad, where you just think the worst possible things can happen is all the time. You're not allowed to have optimism when you're Jets fans. You can be cautiously optimistic. There was an entire Curb Your Enthusiasm episode once, season 10, episode seven, about being a Jets fan. And it was called, I think, the ugly section. Nick Kroll was the maitre d'. And part of the episode was about, he would put these people in different sections of the restaurant, depending on how attractive they were. But there was this other plot, Larry's buddy who loved the Jets, kills himself. And Larry becomes convinced it was because of the Jets, that the Jets killed his friend. This was only a couple of years ago. So now they get Aaron Rodgers, and everything's good. And they're gonna win the Super Bowl. I don't see it, guys. I don't wanna step on my football stuff too much, but I'd be shocked. And Lombardi points out the defense that everybody's ready to compare to the 85 Bears. Lombardi said they had two turnovers over the last eight games last season. So that means something too. I am dubious, to say the least. If you're gonna tell me a tortured franchise actually turns it around this year, I want a tortured franchise that doesn't have expectations. Because the Lions are another one. Everybody's ready to put them in the Super Bowl or close. And the only case for them is just pretty explosive offense. They couldn't stop anybody last year. And the NFC is terrible. But that's another one where is that a fan base that should be super excited and have a ton of hype? The one that's kind of lurking that fits in this group is the Browns. Because the Browns are actually super talented. They're in a winnable division. Burroughs already hurt. And I think they're four to one to win the AFC North on FanDuel, something like that. Their over -under is, I think it climbed up.
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Warriors in rare territory, trail Kings 2-0 in NBA playoffs
"The NBA has suspended Golden State Warriors forward draymond green one game without pay for stepping on the chest of Sacramento Kings center de montes sabonis, the incident took place in the fourth quarter of the warrior's one 14 one O 6 game two loss on Monday in Sacramento. Green was ejected from the game while sabonis was assessed a technical foul for grabbing green's right ankle while falling to the floor. The league said green's suspension was based in part on his history of unsportsmanlike conduct. Green will miss game three of the series Thursday in San Francisco, Sacramento leads two games to none. I'm geffen coolbaugh.
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"draymond" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"Starting the day. Here comes the start one. Stand of the day brought you was always my panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show, Lucas in Texas, Lucas, welcome back. What do you have for me? Good morning, Dan. Thanks for taking my call. I was watching the draymond stuff. And man, you know, I was expecting kind of the warriors to respond, you know, get fired up and everything when he did all of his crazy stuff. And when they didn't, I just really feel like that's the final nail in the coffin of like draymond with the warriors whenever his contract comes up due 'cause I mean, there's no tangible reward or benefit to this style anymore. Like how he started the season, how he's ending it now. I think that they are like released in the court of public opinion of like needing to keep draymond around. It's too much. It's crazy. And a real quick comment with Chrissy. I find it amazing that he's unable to keep his mouth open at the dentist when the exact opposite problem literally everywhere else. Wow. I'm going to give a bloop bloop there for Lucas Lucas in Texas. I don't know what draymond's contract status is. I think he's up soon. Does that sound right? That he wants to stay there. I know Klay Thompson's up and he wants a max deal with Golden State. I think if the younger players had performed better, has so much talent. But Wiggins has been out pool has been spotty, but draymond is still there. Do I want to keep him? What price? But, you know, he's 32. Yeah, pulling. In 2019, he signed a four year extension draymond green. And it's a player option. Right now he's making 20 just under $26 million this season, pretty good. Next year he'll make 27 million 5 and it's a player option. He could stay by choice with that team. They would have to cut them and buy them out the only way to get rid of them. Craig in New Jersey. Hi, Craig, what's on your mind? Hey, to be what's up. Real quick on green. I mean, you guys have really said all there is to say about it at this point. It's just for me, it's another reminder about how hilariously on athletic he looks. The farm flapping motion that he made as he's leaving sabonis his chest reflects trying to take flight. That'll always make me laugh. Real quick though. It's a Stanley Cup playoffs and I have a pie to the face related bets for 50. Okay. All right, what is it? This is the new York rangers are playing my New Jersey Devils in the first round. Very simple. Rangers win. I take a pie to the face. Devils win. Fritz takes the top tied to the face. Todd? I've watched about 12 seconds of rangers hockey this season, but for fun, I will take you up on it. All right, let's go with the ranger. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. How about the LA kings last day? How about them? They're down three one and one and over time. Yeah, they did. Watch out Euler's Connor McDavid. Pauly comes in, he goes, every year. Every year he has this same thing that he says. Now we don't cover hockey, but you know, we appreciate hockey. But Pauline comes in and goes, why did Minnesota get rid of the north stars? I'm all set. I don't know, Pauly. I love that nickname. I know that they'll stars took it and I know that the lineage of should you be able to take the nickname with you? No, the Minnesota north stars had a great logo, a great name, great colors. I actually think they've done a pretty good job with the wild uniforms. The little circle in the middle, but the north stars unis were fantastic. But the download stars and the Dallas Cowboys and the star and it all fits there. You're the second biggest star in town. You don't want that. They should be the Dallas, whatever. I don't know, but like Minnesota north stars was cool. Do you remember all the great Minnesota north stars? Oh, yeah. We don't have enough time. EA Sports. As your boy. Ilka sent a solo. Was that guy from Toronto, Wendell Clark? Great slap shot. Yeah. He also played for duke, I think. When he a basketball player, no update to poll results, Seattle Connor, and that's your hockey moment. Nobody covers it. You know, nobody covers hockey like we do. I just want to pay jet uniforms are nice. Real nice uniforms. Oh man, Dan, we have did I surprise you by going to you? No, I'm just more surprised that they're not up anywhere. Oh, well just make it up. Mclovin did that. You know, at a 100% of the audience agrees with me, draymond should have been suspended. Giannis is back, I guess, is okay. Josh hand is iffy. And we'll talk to Chris mannix the NBA writer for sports illustrator he'll join us. Hawks Celtics. The hawks I think are ten and a half point underdogs in this game against the Celtics and nicks are getting 5 and a half against the Cavs and the clippers are 7 and a half point underdogs against the suns. According to DraftKings. More phone calls coming up, gonna talk about the Jalen herds contract. How's that effect Lamar Jackson? And Joe burrow and Justin Herbert, one hour in the books, two more to go on this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan and Stan Patrick show. One more item we close that hour one every week we talk about our friendship panini America, the official trading cards for the Dan Patrick show, also check out their brand new NFT platform at NFT dot panini America dot net. One of a kind digital cards available in packs or panini's public auctions on the site. You'll find the hottest rookies biggest superstars the old time greats featuring official products from the NFL NBA UFC, FIFA World Cup in collegiate sports, collectors, you're able to share your cards in the public gallery, completing challenges, earning exclusive award cards and make sure you check out the newly released NFL prism score La Liga pax and more of your favorite panini brands now as NFTs. 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The Dan Patrick Show
"draymond" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"Don't know if is that actual sound of draymond green. Sounds very close. The expletives he's hurling at. I don't know if conduct detrimental. I don't know if you factor that in, but you know, he has a history of doing this. He's going to the Hall of Fame because he plays this way. And I don't know how many moments sabonis has had where he does this. I know that game one, he got tangled up with now there was nobody got kicked in game one when sabonis brought draymond green to the floor. Nobody got kicked. But this time around, he got kicked. Yeah, Paul, you know what's interesting in the semantics of what you just said, draymond green is going to the whole thing, which is true, he is. Yes. But he doesn't feel like a Hall of Famer. It's almost like being a good player with a steelers in the 70s. You're going to the Hall of Fame. Because we have to bring you to the hall. And I like draymond green's game, not his theatrics, but I think he's important. I think he's very smart to spend his whole career at Golden State because it's an automatic ticket to the hospital. Oh, yeah. If draymond played for the hawks his entire career, it'd be like, oh, you know, draymond green played a long time. That'd be it. You know, he wouldn't be, he wouldn't be winning defensive player of the year. He wouldn't be on all stars. He wouldn't be. He's on a great team and we reward great teams. And the players who play on those teams. Yes, yes, Marc. Yeah, draymond would be Billy and beer. If they had just won two titles, he'd be building a bear, like somebody you would never forget. But since they have four championships, there's no way you can not let the third best player on four championship teams do not get into the Hall of Fame. Yeah, but Bill lane beer, not going to the Hall of Fame. Well, that's what I was saying because they only won two. If they had won three, would Bill lane beer be a Hall of Famer. It's a fair comparison. They didn't have a great college career. Laimbeer was a four time all star during that run. He was actually better before the pistons got great. And he curtailed his game when like Sally and Dumas took over. Yes, Todd. Could they said something about mechanically the whole thing that as you get closer to his bus, you get shoved to the ground by like some robot. There's something knocks you over just to get a feel for his career and what he did. So we would do a draymond experience and Hall of Fame. That's a perfect way to say it. Would you like to get stepped on? Yeah, sure. I'll get too close. Why? What happens? Look at how was that? Fine, get up. The fact that the first thing that said this morning is Todd going. Sabonis is soft. He is, he soft, and I go, from you, calling himself, that's how we started our own person to bring that up. But he was really, that's way over the force of the kick in my opinion. Well, don't you think draymond overreacted to? No. Okay, thank you. You said there was a history in game one, like you grabbing my ankle as I'm running forward and nobody got done for the year. Nobody got kicked in game one. He deserved to get kicked. Not twice. And I don't think he kicked him that hard, but if someone's grabbing on my ankles, I get off. And I agree with draymond he's not that flexible. What do you expect me to step all the way with a length of sabonis body? So why would someone take a breath? Why don't you think Alonzo mourning didn't kick Jeff van Gundy when he held onto his leg, Todd? Because he knew better. He knew better. All he did draymond didn't. Draymond's got a basketball IQ that's so high in this case you win it, 'cause it's draymond. Draymond being draymond could go against you and in that case it was a yes, Paul. By the way, former piston center Bill and beer four time all star. He was 13 and ten for his career. Draymond green averages 9 and 7 and 6 assists. Yeah. It's interesting. And one defensive player of the year I think a couple of times. Yes, yes. I love when professional athletes, by the way, talk about how not athletic they are. Like, hey, I'm not that smart. They can only go so far. My professional athlete play that again, Marvin, draymond talking about that he couldn't avoid sabonis chest. Can you just walk us through what happened there? My leg got grabbed. Second time in two nights. Referees just watch it. I got to land my foot somewhere. And I'm not the most flexible person, so it's not stretching that far. So you didn't really see where you were stuffing. I can only step so far pulling my leg away. Draymond, you're 32, not 62. Couldn't find my walker. I mean, it only goes so far. What do you want me to do? Yes, time. I appreciate the follow-up question. So you're saying that there was no way to break the stepping on him twice. Had to put foot somewhere. Yeah, usually in your mouth. Oh, okay. Okay. All right. Start with one. All right, thank you, John. Buddha in San Francisco joins us. Good morning, Buddha, what's on your mind? DP, I just got to start it out with a die hard Laker fan in San Francisco. Like the beam baby, the doves are in trouble, and you and I both know, Dan, I have a green light just like you. Davion Mitchell is in Steph Curry's jockstrap. And he is exhausted and he is so tired, but Dan, I got to paint a little picture for you. I was in Bordeaux last week. And I'm calling into the show. And I find out that the others are hosting. Yeah. And little Buddha little Buddha a Bordeaux was just so bummed because I was trying to check in and call in from chateau margaux where I was trying to make reservations for you for some great picking in the fall. Yeah. And you know, Dan, they hire about 202 150 people for this. So this is very possible. Oh yeah, yeah, I want to go pick grapes in Bordeaux and they don't pay you anything, but thank you, Buddha. I truly want to go to Bordeaux to pick grapes. I think I saw a documentary on that. And I thought, you know what that'd be pretty cool at one point. Let me tell you how you're a great picking experience you're going to work out because I think I know you're pretty well. You're going to go there, you're going to probably have like a scarf, you know, in a white shirt. I was going to maybe do an ascot. Yeah, and maybe a cap and a shoulder bag. And it looked like a black and white movie. If you're going to pick graves for about 13 minutes, then you're going to get real rambunctious and bored and you're going to go inside and drink wine all day. Okay. Which is fine. And what's your point? But you're not doing like a 9 hour shift in the field. Well, no, my wife probably will. I'm going to under on 13 minutes. Okay, all of a sudden, you know, Hulk Hogan over here. Come here to be zero. Mister stamina. Yeah, tough guy. Maybe 30 seconds and I'm out. Remember the Sandler movie when you couldn't get up to get a jacket? Nearly died. It's definitely ill. But no one cared. Remember that we were probably there. He got me on the bus, he got me a Jacob got me a jacket from the wardrobe department. And I taught his shivering while we're waiting for our scene in Adam Sandler's movie and Todd goes, I had like a 103. Todd, you need a tension that bad. You gotta walk around. So Todd goes, I'm so cold. I was very white. I was very white. It was cold. And I said, Todd, do you see that woman right there? That's wardrobe. That's her only job. I got very shy. Just ask, it's a woman. And then I said, ask her for a jacket. And then Todd goes to the bus and then he comes off the bus when they get ready to shoot their scene. He goes, so called. And I think for some reason. I couldn't get them to turn off the air conditioning on the bus. I said, did you ask them?
AP News Radio
Warriors top Mavs
"The Mavericks welcome back to Luka Dončić, but fell under 500 with a one 27 one 25 loss to the warriors. Dončić had 30 points and 17 assists after missing 5 straight games with a left thigh strain. Steph Curry delivered 20 points and assisted on draymond green's tiebreaking three point play late in the game. Jonathan comeing scored 22 points on 9 of 11 shooting off the bench for Golden State. For a great team to win, needs him out for he needs to move the ball. Everybody gotta have to fill the ball. And that's pretty much what we came out there and do. And that's what got us this win. Dallas played with that Kyrie Irving and fellow guard Tim Hardaway junior. I'm Dave ferry
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Shead scores in last second, No. 1 Houston tops Memphis
"Jamal shed hit an 18 footer at the buzzer to give top ranked Houston a 67 65 win over Memphis. The tigers tied the game on a drive by kedrick Davis 9 seconds before shed scored the last of his 16 points. Draymond Mark also had 16 points and Marcus sasser added 13 as the cougars improved to 29 and two overall, 17 and one in the American athletic conference. Davis had a game high 26 points for Memphis, which enters the conference tournament as the number two seed. The tigers erased at 9 point halftime deficit before falling. I'm Dave ferry.
The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"draymond" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"I don't know his personality that well, but he's pretty low key. My experience just watching him through the Conference Finals and finals last year through a lot of press conferences. He's not really fun to press conferences. He's comfortable enough and he's like a good engaging fun personality, but he kind of has this running joke. A camera what it is, but he looks at Raymond rider of the pure guide and says, something about one question, right? Or something like that as he goes in. He doesn't like doing the press conferences. So he's not going to be comfortable being put in this position at all. And I don't get the sense he's the kind of player or the kind of person who's also going to be like, yeah, you know, my way or the highway or it's me or him or like that's not I don't perceive that that's who he is. I'd be shocked if Jordan Poole is going to be the one to say we can't get past this or something. I don't think that'll be the case. If I had to predict and this is just a hunch, my prediction is that Steph will want draymond still here. My prediction is that Steve Kerr having already ridden many waves with draymond green will be willing to ride this one out too. And my hunch is that Jordan Poole is not the kind of person who's going to say that we can't coexist now. My guess is draymond green is here. And if he's not playing opening night because there's a suspension, okay, but he's going to be here for whatever the first game is these eligible for and throughout the rest of the season because he can help them win a 5th championship. Yeah, that's all that matters. I thought it was interesting Steven a going out on TV saying, this is draymond's last year in Golden State. Who knows where he's getting his information. But that's not going to help the pot from not being stirred. And I will just note real quick. I just want to say this much too. Like, draymond green did not have to sit in front of the media for 40 minutes on Saturday. Draymond green did not have to talk at all. Draymond green could have talked in his podcast. He could have issued a two sentence statement written statement through the team. There's a whole bunch of ways you could have done this. And again, look, no amount of contrition and no amount of sitting on a podium and speaking openly for 40 minutes doesn't negate what he did. Let's be very clear. I don't want anybody to misread it. But accountability is about sitting up there and facing the music and he did it within a day of this video leaking. He was up there speaking with the Bay Area media for 40 freaking minutes. don't have to name them who don't have anybody speak for 40 minutes combined on a given day and who have GMs who don't speak 40 minutes combined over the last several years. Bob Myers was out there on day one. The second the story broke speaking to the media and trying to be as accountable in his transparent within reason as he could. Steve Kerr was out immediately Steph Curry was at immediately and draymond green having thrown the punch that the whole world saw, sat up there for 40 minutes to be accountable to answer questions to be transparent to be contrite and to say I accept responsibility for it. It doesn't negate what happened at all, but it speaks, I think, well of the organization and of draymond green that everybody's willing to just address this openly and not hide from it and not try to downplay it. Yeah, I agree. Good for him for standing up there and facing the music for as long as he did. Now we'll see if there's a pathway back for him to for the warriors get back on the same page. Our good stuff, man. Next week, we're gonna have games. So we'll talk basketball and basketball stuff. How about that? How about that? That's exciting. I guess our last pod before the actual game start will be well, it'll be on. Yeah, when game starts Tuesday, opening night, Tuesday, the what 19th? Yeah, we're good to go. Here we go. There we go. I will be in Brooklyn watching the nets take on the new Zion in the new pelicans. I will be in Boston watching Celtics. 76ers. With their new coach. We'll do it again next week, Howard. Always a pleasure, my friend. Football is back and bet MGM is inviting new customers to join the huddle and enjoy the action like never before. Sign up today using bonus code capital and your first wager is risk free up to $1000. You'll also have instant access to a variety of parley selection features. Player props, and boosted odd specials, just download the bet MGM app today or go to bed MGM dot com and enter a bonus code capital and place your first wager risk free up to $1000. The bet MGM app is the perfect way to experience the excitement of wagering on live sports. 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He went to the games, was at the practices, talked to a lot of people, I'm sure, out in Vegas, Jeremy joins me here on the show. So Jeremy, I want to start kind of here.
The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"draymond" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"And throwing a right hand at the chin off his teammate. And, and look, draymond is someone who has built a lot of equity with that team. You articulated it very nicely there. The four championships, all he's done for that organization, but as you keep on loony say, he does have some amends to make. It's not as simple as saying I'm sorry and saying I'm sorry to Jordan Poole's family. This is something that's going to take some time to get over. And part of getting over it, I think, is going to be a sizable suspension. Now, I don't know how long that's going to be. Do you give them the 8 games that Bobby portis got for slugging Nicole and meritage? Remember, Carmelo Anthony back in the day, he got 15 games for slugging Marty Collins in a game. That was yeah, but that's an NBA suspension that's a fight that spilled into the stands and it was a year removed from the malice at the palace. Very, very different search. Right. And speaking of malice in the palace, Metta world peace got, I think, 7 games for that James Harden elbow that he hit him in the playoffs. I think he gave him a concussion. He did. That was a vicious, can we quickly do this since you're the boxing guy anyway? Like, the damage matters. Meera had multiple fractures in his face, did he not? I believe he had damage. I don't know what the damage. And Harding was, I believe, concussed. Jordan Poole played last night as we record this. It was a Sunday Night. And played really well. It's not, again, not to downplay the punch, but there was no damage, and it's just like with a flagrant foul, right? Like the same action if a guy falls to the floor hard and smacks his head or, you know, bust something on the way down, it's viewed differently than if the guy fell hard and hopped right back up, right? So sometimes it's the impact. And while we're on it, let me just say this. Because I want to come back to this point. It's not what you and I think about it or what the public thinks about it after having seen the video. It's what the warriors think they need to do as a pragmatic matter to both make sure there's accountability. Make sure that draymond green is held to account and held to a standard and that this does not just pass by, but at the same time, consider how important an intrinsic he has been to their success because by the way, they could win another championship, and they want to win another championship. They want to get that 5th banner. And draymond helped them get the first four. So it's not to say that his ability to help them win championships outweighs everything. Of course not. But there's some weird, difficult, sometimes awkward balance that you have to find and that they have been fighting for out throughout his entire career here. And that's what they're doing again right now. Trying to figure out how do you keep him still in the fold and engaged and then also honor his teammates who have been, you know, one of whom has been punched and the rest of whom have had their trust in him shattered or at least fractured for the moment, to, like it's all of these people matter, right? And including draymond. Unless they're gonna go to the extreme, which I don't, I don't think that's there, but Tim kawakami, who covers Barry sports and the warriors very well for the athletic, among others. Kala kami made the point that we have to go straight to the big picture, that he draymond can be a free agent next summer. He's got a team option for the following season. Is this the point where he's turning 30 and three in March, he's shown some signs of eroding physically. Like, is this the point where you just say, you know what? This is one thing too many and you move on. It's fair to raise that, but I'm telling you, as I read it from what I can gather at the moment, they are looking at the bigger picture here of all of it. This season and beyond, but especially this season, can we win another championship? Can we go back to back again? Is draymond a net plus in that if he still is, then let's figure out how to both make sure that we hold him accountable and do the right thing by everybody here, but at the same time not alienate him or alienating anybody else along the way. Like it's a very delicate dance they're doing, but again, they've been doing this a long time as an organization. I think what this inevitably means, though, is that draymond is not getting that contract extension before next summer. He might not have been anyway. He might have anyway, but I think this puts the final nail in that coffin. And Jordan Poole, I think a lot of this how it plays out is going to depend on how Jordan Poole reacts to all this. Like he has not yet spoken publicly about what happened. Like, is he going to be in that forgiven forget mindset? We're all going to come back together. We're going to win a championship. We don't know what their relationship was like prior to that punch. I don't think what was happening on that floor was the beginning of something. It might have been a continuation of some bad feelings between those two. I mean, look, if you're the warriors, playing the season out is not a bad thing anyway. Before you commit, big dollars and draymond's throwing the word max around in the past before you commit big dollars to draymond green. I kind of want to see not only what does he look like as a player at this stage because he's still an elite team defender. He is a big part of the fluidity of their offense, even if the numbers don't show it, his ball movement is instrumental to what they do offensively, but if he takes a little bit of a step back in both areas this year, it might put the warriors in a position to want to move on. So besides that and seeing how the pool stuff plays out, I mean, draymond's gonna be playing for his next contract. He has a player option for next year so we can opt in, but I'm sure he wants to opt out and maximize his value before he gets too old for a team to want to give him that money. So, you know, this is, it's got a costume a lot Howard. That shot, that punch, that video, it's probably cost him a lot of money. He can get that money back potentially, but it's probably cost him a lot of money at this point. And I am very interested to see how Jordan Poole reacts. Like, I don't know if he's scheduled to speak in the next couple of days. He's going to have to speak at some point. How he responds will go a long way towards telling us the public. How this story plays out. Don't you agree? If he's like, I mean, if he's like, fuck that guy. That's a problem for Golden State. It's probably not going to do that, but if he's like that, Golden State has an all new headache on its hand. Yeah, I mean, I think you're right. I think that, you know, it's not to say that the warriors entire decision and it's a momentous decision, right? This is not some French player. It's dream on freaking green. He's really important to them as we've established. So they're not going to have this decision made by any one person. Steph Curry's voice obviously looms huge in all of this and he and draymond have been, you know, have built a really important and solid partnership over years here. So Steph's voice and his opinion in this will matter. Andre Iguodala who's been around throughout this entire dynasty, his voice will matter. All the usual front office people and all the coaching staff and Steve Kerr, but Jordan Poole, as a young guy in this league who just had his breakout season last year and who, as you've noted, is up for a massive extension and is viewed as a critical part of their future. He's not the kind of player who in ordinary times not in all star, not all MBA, he's not usually the kind of player who you would look at and say he's going to be able to make this kind of decision on the behalf of the franchise. But there's a lot that rides on his reaction. You're right. You're absolutely right. They're giving him as much time as I don't even think it's as much time as he needs. I think the organization is kind of decided he's just not going to talk for several days here just to let this whole thing kind of simmer down a little bit before he goes into the hornets nest of a press conference to talk about what happened, especially after the whole world got
The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"draymond" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"About the incident. Whenever adversity hit this ten years responds, the right way, and this is the ultimate task force. And I think we're going to be able to get through it. Jordan, he's going to work and do what he's going to do. Draymond, he's a veteran. He's been leader on stage for a reason and he got some work to do to get that trust back from us, but I think he's willing to do so. All right, Howard, let's just start here. You know, your take on what happened, how it's evolved and what this means for the warriors. Let me start with this. There's absolutely no minimizing what happened, right? Even if we had never seen the video, the act is the act that we have seen the video and we can see just how violent it was, how scary it was. How aggressive it was, there's no, there's just no minimizing that. And, you know, there's a lot of other things swirling around how the video got out. You know, I know there's this backlash of how it doesn't matter how the video actually kind of does matter how the video got out. Like that's an issue too. It's not the most important issue, but it's an issue. It is especially an issue for the warriors and I think it's probably an issue to a degree for all 30 teams because nobody wants their stuff getting out. And I don't mean about just fights. I mean, whatever, trade secrets, whatever they're working on. Other stuff, you know, and yeah, dust ups in practice, whatever. Nobody wants their video getting out. This has never happened to my knowledge in my 25 years covering the NBA. And. Teams are definitely alarmed about it. The warriors chiefly, but I think everybody is now a little worried about what is vulnerable within their four walls that they believe to be private. But the act is what matters, right? The punches what matters and the effects of it. And the fact is like a week later, Chris, I don't think we really know what the effects are. This is the longest I've ever seen a team or the league wait to announce the disciplinary measure. It's possible they've made a decision and just have not announced it. It's possible that draymond's absence right now is part of it. Like, that's absolutely a possibility. We don't know one way or the other way. He's voluntarily staying home to clear his head and to let the team clear their heads without him around or whether this is part of some agreement with the team. We don't know one way or the other. But this is the longest I've ever seen that a team has not announced a disciplinary action after something so egregious. They can do that because it's preseason. There's no urgency. If this were in the middle of January, they probably would have had to act more swiftly because the season keeps marching on. But they have, they have some time to breathe here before opening night, which is now a week away. I expect that whatever is happening. We'll find out by then. Probably sooner, but the warriors don't, you know, I'm out here right now, right? And I'm not working on that. I'm working on something else, but I've been chatting with people. They do not seem to be in any rush to do anything here. I know that there's a lot of people in public, whether it's people like us and media or whether it's fans, you know, screaming, demanding whatever, justice, whatever they think that is, the warriors, I would just say this, they know draymond green better than any of us, they know their team better than any of us. They know what the balancing act is. And it is a balancing act. And it's always been a balancing act because of draymond the way he's wired. They know what the balancing act is between keeping draymond engaged and active and hopefully channeled in the right direction versus draymond possibly going off the rails. He has nearly derailed them and arguably has derailed him a couple times before, but he's still here because he's also helped him win all those championships. Like those banners are there. There are four of them and draymond green is as critical to them as anybody. And so they have smoothed out the rough edges over time. They have weathered draymond green's various outbursts over time usually verbal and not physical to our knowledge. And they know better than we do, what that line is what that balancing act is with that razor's edge that they're sometimes on is. Yeah, but that line Howard, that line has been, it's been crossed. It has been leaped over. Like, I don't want to hear from NBA executives, coaches about stuff like this happens in practice all the time. Altercations happen all the time. Scuffles happen all the time. Haymakers to your teammates do not happen all the time. They don't. I'm sorry. Not all the time, but I guarantee you they've happened. Okay, but you know what? When they do happen, suspensions come. You remember what was it, 2017, Nicole and mirotic when Bobby portis slugged him at bull's practice, mirotic was going at him and portis was quick to point out on social media that he was defending himself in that situation. But he got what 8 games for that. And that wasn't caught on camera. That just something that happened at practice and the bulls felt it significant enough to level an 8 game suspension at this guy. So I just don't believe stuff like that happens. How many games did Michael Jordan get for slugging Steve Kerr back in the day? I think zero? How many games did Shaka Kobe get for their fight that we didn't learn about until years later? Kobe, though, we would have found out. But we also would hear about these things. That would have been just a complete beating right there. Right, but the point is that in a prior era before social media before all these cameras in their gyms that now capture everything and that can now be, you know, we don't know how that video got out. We don't know what chain of. Actions happened that it got into somebody's hands who didn't mind making a buck off of it. I doubt that it was anybody who works for the warriors. It makes no sense at all that anybody who works for the words. It makes more sense that somebody showed it to somebody who shouldn't have and then that person showed it to somebody and in this day and age with the technology, being the way it is. It's so easy to copy and send on stuff. That wasn't the case in prior decades. And so if a punch like this happened in practice, and again, I guarantee you it did. It didn't get out because there was no means for it to get out. And so it's not that this is unprecedented. It's just that the circumstances and our ability to see it are unprecedented and had the video not gotten out. You and I would be sitting here talking about, well, you know, something happened. We don't know exactly what, but draymond green apparently punched. We wouldn't know. We would be talking about this in the abstract and the team would probably be dealing with dealing with it in a way that yeah, but here's why Howard they now can't deal with it in that way because it is out. It's out and not just because it's out for public consumption. It's out for internal consumption too. Like you watch that video and draymond saunters up to pool, pour on atoms, like right Adams, I made this analogy on Twitter. It was like the boxing referee that knows if he just stepped in a second earlier, he might have stopped something really bad. Run Adams needs to be protected at all costs and I'm so glad that he was not in harm's way and that nobody tumbled into him that nothing else happened. Ron Adams must be must be saved. Women like Pedro Martinez and Don Zimmer from back in the day when people don't know that reference, you can Google that.
The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"draymond" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"Framework is set, the seeds are there for this to be an ugly race to the bottom for a whole bunch of teams. Now it's going to be an ugly race at the bottom. I'm just curious to see which teams join that race in like month two or month three of the regular season. I mean, San Antonio is already in that race. Utah is already in that race. If there's an injury in Houston early on, do they offload aragorn and join that race? Does Indiana come up with a trade that moves buddy heel to miles Turner off the roster in exchange for a Russell Westbrook or a player they don't want and do they join that race? Which was probably going to happen anyway, by the way. Web and yum are no web and Yama, the idea of Indiana trading off its last two veterans in a Westbrook deal or whatever. I think that was possibly going to happen anyway. So this is where it gets sticky, right? We'll start conflating things that were maybe going to happen anyway with, oh, they joined the tanking room. I mean, that's really the only one, though. That's the one. Like Indiana moving those guys. I think Houston before it became web and Yama fever. Like they went to the season hoping they could win more games. It's not going to be a playoff team, but can they get to 25, 30 wins, you know, this season more from Jalen green, something out of jabari Smith, out prince and there's got a lot of young pieces there that they can take a step forward. Like, they're the one. Utah traded everybody. So and they'll continue to trade everybody. My Conley's the clock's ticking on him. Even if they don't, they can't defend anybody anymore, so they're going to be really bad. So I'm just curious to see how many teams by all star break are in this race. Are there four teams competing for those last three spots where your odds are the very best? All right, so listen, this is an interesting part as I'm looking at the teams that could potentially join the tanking race, right? You mentioned the spurs and the jazz, they already made their decision, right? The jazz jettisoned Donovan Mitchell Rudy Gobert, they're gonna be bad intentionally. And for reasons that have nothing that could have come about without wembanyama, right? They had reached, they did hit a wall. They weren't going any further with this group. It was time to hit the reset button. But anyway, Utah and San Antonio and San Antonio, of course, offloaded Dijon Murray. So those two teams, we know what their trajectory is. We know what their intent is this season. No question. Houston is going to be bad regardless it's only a question of degree. Oklahoma is going to be bad regardless. Only question of degree. You mentioned Indiana, they can easily jettison a couple vets and be in there. But here's the interesting thing. The magic have not made the playoffs in a thousand years. And have added palaban Caro is the top pick of the last draft. I don't think the magic are going to be very good anyway. I don't think they're a play in team anyway and certainly they're a team that if they're not going to make the plane anyway, they can, you know, start messing around down the stretch to be ultra bad. But they're a front office has now been in their seats for what, three, four years, and don't have a lot to show for it. You know, there could be pressure there from ownership to actually show something for it and not be historically bad again. The pistons have had a couple of good drafts and now actually traded for a veteran in boya and Baghdad as if they're trying to win now. The pistons want to show progress with their young core. The Sacramento Kings have showed us the last couple of years. Though they failed at it, they keep trying to make even the play in because the kings want to end their historic playoff drought that's now at 16 years. The Washington Wizards signed Bradley Beal to another massive extension, they want to make it. And again, that doesn't mean they can't blow it up midstream, but, you know, the Knicks, the Knicks don't want to bottom out. They're another one of these teams that could be in the lottery again as a lower lottery team not a high lottery team, but they're not a team that's going to suddenly change direction, trade everybody and go for web and Yama. The trailblazers are patching it together around Damien Lillard as he got healthy again and Gary Payton junior and Jeremy grant. They're not trying to do it. So like a lot of the teams that we would look at normally and say, oh, they should just pull the plug and go for it. Our teams that actually have incentive to try to win either to keep their owners happy to keep their stars happy or just because they're kind of committed to being mediocre like the Knicks. Yeah, I mean, I get that. I just think, again, mid season, if there's an injury or two, and it seems like, you know, the teams that you pointed out that went for the ten seed last year are not going to be doing that this year. If they can find a way to get into that bottom three or even closer to that bottom three, they're going to do it just because this kit is transformational. And if you are a small market team and you have the chance to add this guy for the equivalent of like 8 years really because everybody signs that second contract, you're going to do whatever you have to do to go and get him. So Jeremy and I will talk about that. More about when but yeah I'm a later in the show. Football is back and bet MGM is inviting new customers to join the huddle and enjoy the action like never before. Sign up today using bonus code capital and your first wager is risk free up to $1000. You'll also have instant access to a variety of parlay selection features. 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It was later revealed he punched Jordan Poole, settled down for like a day, and then the video of the altercation leaked to TMZ. And that could not possibly have gone worse for draymond green. It showed draymond walking over to Jordan Poole, Jordan Poole shoving draymond green, though not didn't really move him. He's got like he's down like 40 pounds on draymond to 30 pounds on draymond. And then draymond just winding up and throwing and landing a huge right hand to the face of Jordan Poole. Here's draymond green, Steve Kerr, and kevon Looney talking
NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"draymond" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"That comes off of that last year's salary so that is let's do some math here on the fly. What's that? That'd be quite a bit less than his max because he's obviously ten year guy, so he'd be looking at $33 million ish in that range in that first year salary and then that would bump up by the 8% raises from there. Or he could insist upon it. I don't think he's going to be able to say, you know, I opt out and give me the full max. 40 about 46 and a half million next year. I love draymond and I think he's a great player. I just don't know about anybody's giving him. That, especially not when he will turn what 30 two right now. Yeah, it will turn 33 in this season. So yeah, so that just seems a little unlikely to me. So yeah, it seems like he's basically saying, hey, give me that full max extension that you can give me right now. Hey, he's probably, yeah, either I'll locked in and we'll do it that way or I'll opt out and we can add four years onto the end of this season. If that's what you want to do either way, it sounds like that's what he's open to doing. Which if I'm the warriors, it would be the latter. I would have, I would want him to opt out. He's otherwise you opt in. You're tacking on another year. And at 32 years old, I don't know if I want to be paying. Now the cap goes up and all of that. So that's a factor here. But still paying draymond and what? 2028, that kind of money. Yeah, I don't want to be paying him, yeah, 40 to $50 million when he's 37, 38 years old. Right. Yeah, this is a PJ Tucker that we're talking about here. Come on. Yeah. No, I mean, it's funny, 'cause he could be by then, but PJ doctors only make in the mid level. 5 times as much money. In a single season. Let me ask you this. Is draymond worth it? Let's say the warriors get into a battle here with him. It doesn't go well. And he said, you know what? Forget it. I'm going to go out on the open market. Is he a max player on the open market? Probably not. That was what I was looking for. Yeah. You could so max next year if he opts out would be about 46 and a half $1 million. I don't think everybody's going to give him that. What a team maybe say, hey, we'll give you a 100 million over three years. That I could see. What happened? I could see that happening. And then you're roughly in that range, right? Where the warriors are at because it will be saying I want four years, a 140 right now, three years, 100 million, 30 million plus a year.
SI Media Podcast
"draymond" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"Well, I mean, we're a means to an end if nothing else. Because we're still and this could veer into the conversation. Again, it's maybe it's part and parcel of what I was talking about with how people consume what they consume. Where do you find it? Content's content wherever it lives. And there's still a space for the old media or whatever the hell I'm doing. And I can also dip my toe in the other thing as well. But I couldn't be more pro draymond being in charge of his voice. Absolutely. Using it to amplify things he finds interesting have interesting conversations in ways that he could have them that I could not as a peer of guys in the league. And the thing I love genuinely love about draymond is that I truly think he is, it's like a Charles Barkley. I think he's draymond at all times. I think he doesn't have to edit himself and doesn't. I think he's the version of himself. He always wants to be and good for him because not many of us can say that. You know, we have to kind of put on a different outfit for a different room or a different setting and we have to be a more sanitized version of ourself. I think draymond is like, I'm gonna be me. And if you don't like it, even better, 'cause I'll be meat louder. So good for him and all the things he's doing. And I, I'm gonna be me and I want the attention is also a big part of it. Look, I mean, yeah, you don't do and you don't put yourself out there if you don't, if you don't want the attention and you're not afraid about what type of attention you get. You know, some people only want to teach you. That's the key. If it's adulation, you know, if they're there to kiss your ass. If somebody is there to say, hey, no, this is nonsense or whatever. Yeah. I don't think it troubles him, which is, and that's rare too, because it pisses a lot of people off if you get attention that isn't sort of a flowery. I said this on the podcast. It was either last week or two weeks ago. My buddy, solicita, who does a radio show on WFAN comes on every week and does a segment with me at the end of this podcast. And Durant responded to one of his tweets and.
SI Media Podcast
"draymond" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"And something came up about Stephen and I said, well, he's new media too, right? Because draymond said, and I guess what draymond actually said? Was it sometimes he's new media? I don't give a shit who's what? Because here's the thing, Jimmy. Years and years and years and years ago when deadspin, the first one with will leach came out. Yeah, yeah. I realized it seemed very obvious to me that this we're all in the pool together here. And there was, I think people in the more traditional lanes initially just looked, it was the tired joke about people in their parents basement. Right. Well, no, actually, this is a voice that has an audience. And it carries weight. Now, they do whatever they want. And you can argue about whether or not they should be doing things they do. And where are the lines? Well, they kind of aren't any. But it seemed clear to me, and I said as much. There's no us in them. There's just us. And I think now, as it relates to media, there's no new and old, because people that are an old media are doing the new media, and people that are in new media are cutting through in ways that people in old media didn't think they ever would, maybe many years ago, right? So I guess all I'm saying is, whenever Steven a is, he exists in both lanes and draymond clearly is his content cuts through in his podcast or with me. I wasn't hurt by it. Like I didn't take it to be that he was mad at me. Just sort of correcting the semantics. And it didn't trouble me. I mean, whatever. However, draymond frames what Stephen a Smith is or what he is or what any of us are. It doesn't feel important. I think it's important that he has that place where he wants to do his thing..
SI Media Podcast
"draymond" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"It's Twitter and I mean, we got to move on. It's not real life. I want to get into draymond to piggyback off stuff because you had an interesting interview with him. But since you brought it up, we're going to go right off the highway here and since you mentioned it, do you have a favorite all time favorite James Corden, carpool karaoke? I go back to the original, I think it was the original with George Michael, just because I don't know where people are on George Michael God rushed his soul, but like, watch that dude sing at Wembley when he did at the Queen tribute, watch him sing somebody to love. That guy could go, man. I mean, and I think that launched it because James Corden can really sing. And the moments, there are all these little moments where you see the person who he's with, realize, I think it was like Adele. You see Adele, look at him like, oh, this guy can sing. I just think that me and you are getting tweets liked. He's singing with Adele and it was looking at him. I'm like, oh my God, this guy can sing. I think that he's that little lane of his was just such a brilliant window into having the balls to sing next to Adele in a car. 'cause you gotta go toe to toe. You gotta think you can do it, you know? You wanna try to hit the high notes and I don't know. There's been, there's been so many of those that were funny. But again, I go back to George Michael and think, I think that was the first one he did, and then that. So that was for anyone who doesn't know the George Michael and he did for, I think it was like a benefit charity thing they did in England. It wasn't part of his CBS Late Show. The first one he did here was with Mariah Carey. Right. But the George Michael thing, that the snowflake at the top of the hill that becomes the avalanche, right? That was the birth of it. That was the inspiration. As I understand it. But we had him on during the pandemic. And I said, I know this is a terrible question that's impossible. But is there one, you know? It was Paul McCartney, like when Abby wrote, I think it was, and it's like, how do you make that make sense if you're him, you know what I mean? You're in a car with the beetle. Right. Driving down that road singing the song. Yeah, it's funny because McCartney just had his 80th birthday over the weekend. And I actually went and rewatched that carpool karaoke and it one point they're singing let it be and James Corden tears up and it makes him think of his father, grandfather. James Corning gets a lot of shit online, like a lot of people do, but that's one I don't understand. You don't have to think he's funny. You don't have to like his show, but it is weird that he gets so much shit. It's just like a nice guy doing a talk show. What are we heating on that for? Well, but whatever. That's just the way the world works. We talked about this and when it comes to social media and how people behave and it's typically not how people actually behave. So I think you just kind of just keep it moving, you know? Right. So back to the NBA warriors, postgames. You had draymond on. One second, we have a very important question. Yeah, go ahead, buddy..
The Cedric Maxwell Podcast
"draymond" Discussed on The Cedric Maxwell Podcast
"Well, we knew how top heavy they are throughout the postseason. Those are the guys that carry this team. And I just felt like those were the guys that, whether you want to say they were exhausted, whether they were too into their head, but they made some crucial mistakes and those fourth quarter stretches, you know, goals they wore as capitalize on that. You're not going to survive games where you committing 17, 18 turnovers, and expect to win. I mean, those are 30, 35 points. You just giving to the Golden State Warriors. And that was no recipe for success. They never cleaned it up after the after the first two games. You know, the turtles was always an issue. Yeah, I remember looking, I think it was game 5. In Golden State and Sean brandy, my broadcast of partner and I had talked about it said, well, what the self attempt to do is clean up the turnovers. And the first possession the sub exact. Jason Tatum flies through, going to his left and throws the ball out of bounds. It's like, dude, you just you just went over what you had to do and essentially failed. But here's the thing about it. I think this was a learning block. It was a platform to learn on. And we'll tailor them and brown be back. Yeah. I think there will be. But also look at the Eastern Conference. Will it be better? How will those guys compete? Because right now they have the summits at the top. And one thing we know that when you're at the top, you're going to be the hunted. You are going to be the hunted. So the summit to be the hunter. And Tatum will be probably more than anybody being the situation where people are going to look at him and judge him fairly or unfairly as the dude on this table. I mean, once that I give you and I'm not big about staffs, but Larry Bird in 1981 during his first championship run. He averaged 15 points a game. Charlotte about 40% from the field. But what did he do? His greatness. And this is where Tatum has to get. Never heard the average 15 rebounds a game. 7 assists and had 42 steals in a 6 game series. So ag is what we didn't see the imprint that Tatum had to put into a building like that. Because of this many times, got killed on the glass and you never bigger, stronger team, Looney did a great job of getting out early, draymond got some of the second chance opportunities. That crushed the Celtics, too. How many offensive rebounds are the goals they warriors come up with, you.
The Cedric Maxwell Podcast
"draymond" Discussed on The Cedric Maxwell Podcast
"Let me just say this year and I'm gonna be as clear as I can. That's it, wait a minute, hold on. That shit James run, draymond green was doing. During the 80s, he got knocked out. He's a different than her basketball. Our basketball is different. I saw a century Maxwell said. And you know, one thing that baffles me about the 80s or the 90s or whatever you want to call when basketball was so much more physical. And some of the guys that be talking weren't the guys that was punching people. They act like, you know, guys was just walking around the court like, I'm hitting this guy in the know. Respect these years. Yeah. And I'll say this when you look at things you talk about. I'll say this is only been 32 finals MVPs. And damn it, I'm one of them. Talking about me. I can talk to you all I want to mother and that's how that goes. The big girls love that. The last shot opportunity. So far, give me a pass to talk and wipe my mouth. All right, the brand new episode of the second match will podcast. I am just wait.
Winning Plays
"draymond" Discussed on Winning Plays
"Sort of does it collectively that you don't know where to go in clutch moments and if you're best player and Tatum doesn't have it, you're not sure sort of where to go and also the other downside of that is that okay, maybe my best player doesn't have it. Let's go to number two, which is jaylen Brown. On a lot of other teams, they'd be force feeding jaylen Brown the ball. On this team, it's Marcus smart bombs away. And that, I think, again, can be an issue at times. Again, it's their greatest strength. It can also be their greatest weakness at times and you saw that last night. We of course have Brian Robb covering the Celtics for mass live. Another late night for old B rod behind the glass, give me some of your takeaways and thoughts on last night's game. Am I wrong to put so much on the Celtics in this one or am I right to feel like, oh, no, they had an opportunity here. And they blew it. I mean, there's no question this is going to be the game of the series. You look back on if they lose in terms of like, they had it here. But one thing we haven't talked about yet, guys, which I think was a sneaky big factor in this game. Fourth quarter, Steve Kerr, having the guts to put draymond green on the bench for a big chunk of that and go offense defensive of him down the stretch. That is huge because draymond green has been absolute garbage on offense in this series and is really helped this be able to defend all the rest of the warrior's weapons with him out there. Now with him going to loony over green, the guy who's been a better player in this series, it was bad in game four obviously since they won them the game, but now moving forward in this series, the willingness to do that is not good news for the Celtics in terms of trying to pull this thing out. Yeah. And draymond said what he was livid, right? That he was benched in that fourth quarter. But ultimately was the right call by Steve Kerr. I thought Looney was a factor last night..
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"draymond" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"My dad's gonna like this? The FBI is on his trail led by his former friend and boss. Now I know my dad's gonna like this. And when an assassin tries to take chase out, he learns that to ensure his future, he has to square his past, FX is the old man premieres June 16th on FX. Stream on Hulu, before we go, I'm trying to think of some scuttle butt. What have you heard about, did we cover the finals? I think we did it. We covered the finals, yeah. All right, Celtics are four point favorites. In game four, final Z MVP. There is one other thing. Chris Haynes said he tweeted out Steph Curry says his foot injury feels similar to how he injured it against Boston and the regular season, but he doesn't expect the miss a game. What does that mean? So he re injured the foot? Yeah, he said that 5 minutes ago at his postgame presser. That's from Chris Haines who tweeted that out. Yeah, then Klay Thompson said, Klay Thompson said real class a good job Boston about all the F bombs in front of the kids. I agree. I don't like the F bombs. I wish just did the draymond Trent just to the drink. I don't love the swearing because there were some kids there, you know? Kids don't swear and they got TikTok. His foot injury feels similar to how he injured it against Boston, That's not great. So you think he got hurt on that rugby scrum? Yeah, that's the play. Or draymond was given the stare down afterwards, right? Did anything illegal happen on that play? I don't believe so now. Any scuttlebutt that you hear at these finals the last three games? Yeah, I reported some stuff on the ringer this week on Monday in my article about Utah, had reported. That's a weird one. The bowls are another team that has some interest in Rudy Gobert. I know it was reported today forgive me, I forgot who said it, that the jazz aren't really exploring offers from Mitchell right now, but they are listening about Gobert, which connects with what I've said. It seems like Gobert is a more likely guy, at least at this moment. But we know Danny ainge over the years. He does his due diligence on everybody. So I'm not sure how much to read into that. Other than that, what else do we get? We talked earlier about the sun stuff. The blazers with the number 7 pick seems like they're seeking out a lot of possibilities to move that. They want to help and build around dame. I'm not sure who actually is acquirable. They're talking, they're telling teams about people like Beale and Levine. They're dropping. What's going on with Levine? Why does it seem like he would be available? With Levine I was told that the bulls weren't initially offering the full max. And so there was actually negotiation happening. I think that's changed where the offer will be with a max. But whether Levine takes that or not, that remains to be seen. If you're Zach lavine, there's definitely a lot of teams that would want a young scorer in his mid 20s who can play with and without the ball. Like imagine like Levine could Levine could be plugged on to literally any contender in basketball. Because of his ability to play with him. Yeah, he could have played it in the game. We went to Levine. Think about him on the warriors in place of Klay Thompson, for example. He can do all the off ball stuff coming off the screens and handoffs. He can cut to the rim. He's a major lob threat, but he can also run pick and roll for you. He can handle the ball and run a little bit of offense. So you can plug him into literally any team in the league. Can we just call this trade into the league? Exactly. Where's it going? Zach lavine for Hardin. What's more fun than that? That's a fun trade. He would be great with embiid. Hardin gets his own team again. Levine and Maxie in the backcourt together. And Derozan just goes to Croatia and there's a lot of start to season. Yeah. I mean, poor Derozan, if that were to happen then. Yeah, it's not going to happen. I don't think hard in that is nearly the value. But with the blazers though, I mean, miles bridges, Jeremy grant, just a couple other names that have been connected with them. And you had on Monday, you had the Gobert for vucevic and Patrick. That was kind of like just an idea. It makes sense salary wise. If you're getting go barrier trading, so it's a matter of is the other piece, Patrick Williams. Two high lottery picks for booch and then a third high lottery pick to get Gobert. Or would you be willing to do that? How high are you on that? I would not do that. How about, I think he makes way too much money. I would not feel good about him at all. If you trade for Gobert, you have to be in contention. This is our final move to go over the top to fortify our defense. That's not the bulls. No, it's not. I can understand why they might feel that way. If you have Gobert with demar Derozan and if you're able to keep Caruso and Lonzo and then maybe you've got something going there. We share 8 just as in the solution all the way around. Do you trust eating on a new max contract when he himself said years ago how his goal is to make it to his second contract and is going to be a career and the sons constantly have to push him and motivate him to play at a high level. I'm not sure I would. And maybe Chris Paul is a dick. How do we know? Yeah, sure. The Devin Booker aggregator. Simmons says Chris Paul is there. Devin. Devin Booker's the guy that pushes him. I've heard. He's the.
The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"draymond" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"You should be dictating the pace to them and you can see it early. Curse trying weird stuff in the first half already with his rotations and substitutions. Recognizing, I got to get a little tricky with these guys. I need to be able to have these lineups out here to score at these times and I can't do this and draymond green was bad in the first half. He really was bad. They were worse with him on the floor. And I think Kerr knew it as well. And he sat for some stretches there. So you could see cursed wheel spinning like what's the right lineup for these guys here? And how am I going to do this? And how are we going to stay in this game? And then Celtics just folded. And again, I just keep looking at this. Sad. It's sad because they're younger. They got weird. Yeah, they should have more energy. They should have more, I want to say like, fight in them because this is like they're kind of like the underdog, the upstart, the guys that had no business or even being in the NBA Finals and used that. Use that energy to show some toughness out there. You know? Punch back. Don't the warriors dictated that entire game it felt like, especially in the second half. The sherrod likely here to show some toughness. And they left. They let draymond run around like it was his party, you know? Draymond had help. Don't get it twisted. Draymond had had help. But was it was it? Was it a bunch of guys wearing black and white stripes? Was that his help? And none of them were Kendrick Perkins this time. Yeah. Here we are. Yeah, yeah, it helps your ride, but my point was that they kind of let and John alluded to it earlier. They kind of let the worst bully them around a little bit. This was a game where you had one team that played with the kind of desperation. You need to have every single game in the finals. And that desperation, being at home, backs against the walls, some questionable officiating. And I'm being very generous when I say that. It led to the self is getting plonked. I mean, as my son is there who's next to me, you can't see said. The toughest guy for the south this was email. Yeah. He was and whenever your coach is like the toughest guy on your squat, you're probably getting your ass kicked. So what I don't get is and the reason I didn't start the rant early because Jimmy and I disagree a little, I mean, I don't but I just don't get why the refs let draymond bully them like that. You know, even before the Jalen Brown thing, which is a textbook technical. Yes, it's shitty to have a guy tossed. He put his feet on top of him and then pushed him. That's a technical 1000 out of 1000 times. I can't believe the officials. I can't believe it was a Steve javi who does it for ABC. He talked about it. I can't believe he sat there and said, we absolutely allow what's happening in the game to influence our opinion. And I was like, what? Like, so it's sometimes. I don't think that's that crazy, John. But that saying the quiet part out loud, Jimmy, okay? I think it's important for the referees to understand the situation. I mean, we've seen all the time. And we see it all the time..
Mark Levin
President Obama, AG Holder Attack Republicans When Democrats Do More Gerrymandering
"So holder and Obama slammed the Republican states for draymond There's no pushback Nothing Even according to 5 38 which is a left Left of center operation Democrats have flipped more seats than Republicans through redistricting so far the cook report Says exactly the same thing Anybody who can do basic arithmetic knows that former president Obama former attorney general holder writes Fox spent the past several months lambasting Republican states for gerrymandering but they are not addressing Democrat controlled states for doing the same thing Obama last Friday criticized Alabama's congressional map and praised holders national democratic redistricting committee for fighting so hard to make sure people everywhere have an equal opportunity to choose their representatives No they're not They're not fighting to make sure people everywhere Have an equal opportunity to choose their representatives at all Hold her in an appearance on MS LSD this month advocated for fair line drawing quote and said Republicans game the system and redistricting after the 2010 cents as he has also attacked red states for gerrymandering for months
The Dan Patrick Show
Kevin Durant, Draymond Green Blame Steve Kerr & Warriors GM for Split
"We're still talking about the fall out of the draymond green kevin durant situation the show. They did in which they both said. Hey it's bob myers and steve kerr's fault why. The dynasty broke up because of the way they handled our disagreement that we had in two thousand eighteen as time has gone on like you see this look draymond. Green is a smart guy. He knows the impact of his words. Is this dream on pulling james harden going you know what whatever conversation we've had the at the olympics when everybody's hanging out. Hey i want out golden state now. Because i want to get someplace else. 'cause you're blowtorch and your gm at your coach something. That was three years ago. I i've not heard tentatively that that was the purpose behind what he said and there remains the possibility that it was simply. I wanna clear my name. And i wanna do something. That's explosive on my first podcast as i prepare myself for my post my post playing career. i do. I will tell you that it did not sit well at all with the warriors and it shouldn't that from either. Yeah from either one of them and it it. It does undermine their authority and moving forward trying to trying to put this team together.
The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
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"When the olympics start will be the most talented team in tokyo. Hands down no question. Most talented team in tokyo with the roster that they have but this is like a five alarm fire right now howard. This loss to nigeria. I don't care if they win the rest of these pre olympic games which will take place through next sunday. This has to make you nervous if you're a fan of the team because not only is it this. The loss to nigeria. But you go back two years ago at the world championships where you had a us team. That was good. Didn't have probably better team now than they were back in two thousand nineteen but all nba players. They finished seventh. They've been seventh at the world championships. You have the seventh-place finish the loss of nigeria. How concerned are you howard beck about. Usa basketball. It's just an exhibition game. Chris oh no no. It's not just an exhibition game. Stop this team was thrown together over the last however many weeks they had what like three practices. I think i'll ever. Us team is thrown together. What are you talking about. There's no team. There's no no mid season practices for usa basketball. No but the nigerian team has been practicing. What i'm saying is some of the play in the nba though wants win the nba nba. A few of them play in the nba but that team has had time together more so than the team. Sorry brown coaching. that team. That i missed was that a facsimile of mike brown on the bench all season long. What what are we talking about. The warriors have been out for like two months kris k. Okay so two months. that's what matters. That's that's the number three three practices. Also they're still missing. I believe at least three guys because they're playing in the finals right now. Booker middleton chris paul get it. Yes not chris. Ball's not playing a holiday with the the what holland is your holiday. Those those guys will matter especially given that middleton and holiday are to the better perimeter defenders that that team. Usa has and if you look at the rest of team usa's roster. I don't see a ton of great defenders. There there are a few. I think those three guys by the way are going to be exhausted by the time they get to. They may well be. They may will be so. We're going to judge them. Judging when their whole judge when the games matter to strange to me like we don't judge nba teams based on the preseason but we judge team usa based on these exhibition games. That they do going into international competition. I feel like it's thirty. One point favorites. Why why is there betting line on a freaking exhibition better training but a little league baseball. Now country degenerates damn right. I didn't mean chris i'm with. Let's go monday. Nigeria money line. I just. I can't get too excited about this. If they lose the rest of the exhibitions does that mean something. Yeah that might be alarming if they're if they're still struggling to find some cohesion. That could be alarming. But i mean the talent is obviously their talent alone doesn't win on the international stage in style of game is different team ball matters. Shooting matters like yeah. There's a bunch of budget stuff that comes into play. But i i find the panic over this loss or at least the outcry to be a little bit much. So you don't take into account the seventh-place finish in two thousand nineteen. I mean that to me. It's the it's not just as game. The totality of it right. Like and i don't know howard like so in the early two thousands the world kind of caught up to the us ninety to ninety six thousand us. Gold maps then comes the two thousand two world championships in indianapolis and that's seven. The place finish was one of the worst worst outcomes in at least recent usa history. They got it together after that. They hired jerry colangelo. They bringing mike chef ski. They get their act together. Two thousand six two thousand eight then. They run off. Three consecutive years are three consecutive cycles of gold. Medals is argon. Made that like the world's caught up again that somewhere along the way and the last four or five years. The rest of the world has once again caught up usa basketball. I'm trying to understand this. I mean that's close games in those olympics cycles. No question about it. But i can't imagine the oh eight. Twelve or sixteen team losing nigeria. I can't exhibition or otherwise. I can't see it happening. No team and the and the one that followed it were built around like lebron koby. Carmelo enjoying wait. I mean that that groups at another level like as good as this group is that we're seeing right now as talented as they are after k. D. tatum's really good damian. Lillard is great. I mean come arbit- tatum. Bill lillard auto bio levin. Draymond dream ends up there in years but one has won some things. Jeremy grant jeremy grant zach living out of like. These are guys who have done anything in the nba yet. But they're all stars most they're they're also but are they to level of lebron kobe now but do you think is that what you're saying then is that what you're saying to be at the level you need to have like i'm saying the crop to win. I'm saying that if we're going to start comparing the twenty twenty one team to the twenty eight a two thousand eight two thousand twelve teams there is. There is not an equivalent right now. Lebron kobe laurent cobaine weight. And plus what we what. We called olympic. Mellow like carmelo. Didn't have the success in the nba. That some of his teammates did but carmelo in terms of talent level and certainly has resume like that group was at a whole other level. That group is a different level than jason. Tatum bam outta bios. Zach levine. Okay so not saying that you necessarily should have to have that level of time firepower to win an exhibition game against nigeria. Or anybody else. But i am saying comparing usa to itself different iterations of team usa. This one is not that one. This is not as dominant group as the ones we saw in eight and two thousand twelve. It just isn't what do you do like. What's the solution here. Like i mean i jerry. Colangelo deserves an enormous amount of credit for rebuilding that program when it was at. Its nadir mitra chefs. He comes in enormous amount of credit for what they did. But as we sit here in twenty twenty one like it's almost to me howard like the usa basketball rebuilding. The program became cool. Like lebron wanted to do it. Chris paul like dwayne wade. These guys wanted to do it and then they did it. And i think playing for usa basketball didn't become quite as cool as it was fifteen years ago. Like is that what has to happen like does not need to have like a fifth place finish in tokyo for all of a sudden the next generation of a-list stars wherever that may be in two thousand twenty four to come back into the mix and is that the only way this team can win. I mean i think we need to pay attention to the overall context like obviously one. These olympics were supposed to happen a year ago. They're delayed a year because of covid got durant out of it though like that right. It's questionable whether these the olympic should be happening at all still but along the way because of these back to back brutal seasons and everything else like team. Usa doesn't have james harden right now. Doesn't have anthony davis because of the injury doesn't have steph curry doesn't have kyrie irving doesn't have lebron kawai again. If your argument is that the second or third tier it sounds like sounds like insulting. Somehow but if you're saying that the next wave believe after those guys should still be good enough to dominate on the world stage. Maybe but if the point is that the team as best are they still. Are they still able to win. Gold fairly easily. Your probably but a bunch of them aren't on this team right now because of injuries and just the stress of the last year or two so this this is not necessarily representative of the best of the best right now. It just isn't and yes. They should still be good enough to win. Yes the world has caught up to some extent. No the the group that at nigeria's put it put out there last week. Does not leap off the page improbably. Us should've still want it. But again i exhibition game after like three practices. Let's see what happens with the rest of this. This schedule out brought mellow back. I mean he's not what he was four years ago. Eight years ago twelve years ago but the guy knows how to play international basketball. He might have sat. maybe. I guess. I didn't really. I assume that he just want to keep. He didn't kind of like four formerly re retire from the olympics. But it'd be pretty much says like i'm done like lebron kinda did to get talked into it. I feel like. I don't know if i was if i was the usa team would try really hard to get carmelo blake because his style. Whatever it is to the nba is perfect for the national basketball. He's a really good or national basketball player. On this subject damian lillard. He spoke for the first time. Since the hiring of chauncey billips. Only listen to what little had to say about his future in portland. I'm prepared to go in and do my job every year. Like hopefully we make strides over direction and could become a better team a new coach notice. That's where i am. What soured it sounds like. Lillard is at least nominally on board with going back to the blazers. But if i'm a team out there with assets. I don't listen to that response and say well it's over damian. Lillard is back on the same page with the portland trailblazers. If i'm a team with assets i hold onto those assets because it feels to me like the blazers might be one like sixteen to start from blowing that whole thing up with louis mccollum on the way out the door so get the sense now. That seems more likely than not that damian lillard at blazers training camp. He's in ablaze uniform. He starts the season with the portland trailblazers. But if it doesn't work with chauncey billips early and you get close that trade deadline. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see portland decide. Look we've got a. We've got to do something here and opened the door for damian lillard trade. What do you think. I think that nothing has changed. I think that his remarks last week because he sounded a little bit lukewarm. Or just you know you hear one of two things. Well you want to hear one thing if you're a portland trail blazers fan or if you're just looking for any indication that lillard is all in your you want to hear him say listen. I know things are rough right now. But i'm all in you know this is. This is where. I want to be you to repeat all the usual talking points that you hear from players in his position and that we've heard from bradley beal that we used to hear from james harden houston. Which is a win in phil in city fill in the blank with the city. I want to win here. I don't wanna go somewhere else. You know we're going to get this right blah blah. He didn't go down the usual list. And so i think it left open. Some interpretation but getting has changed like the disappointment was clear when the season ended. Some of the things have happened since including obviously the the the train wreck away they went about the the coaching search and lillard. Being caught in the crossfire. There at feeling heat from fans about chauncey billips being selected and so. I don't think we should expect he's going to be rah. Rah right now The trailblazers have a lot of work to do. But we also have not even hit the summer yet. Like there's the draft hasn't happened yet. Free agency hasn't happened yet. There's there's a lot of work to be done. And i think if you're damian lillard which you're probably doing is internally saying here's what i need to see happen externally saying you know what let's let's wait and see i mean you see. He can't he can't say publicly the same things that he's telling say neal o'shea right about what the the state of the roster i i would think that there are some very impassioned debates or discussions being held behind closed doors about what they need to get this thing right and if they can't get it right the he might shift is his stance about staying there long term. But that hasn't happened yet that we know of. What do you think the most interesting potential conversation is amongst players over these next four weeks like i'm kind of curious what jason tatum bradley beal talk about. Tatum and beal close friends dating back to their highschool days both went to the same high school bill with something of a mentor to jason. Tatum actually got him involved with his trainer. Drew hanlin which helped. Tatum elevate his his personal skills and they've talked about how happy they are to be playing together. Played the all star game together for the first time beal last year of his contract. Like you know we've seen these conversations yield real tangible conversation. You'd like to be a fly on the wall on for any of these guys in the next couple of weeks. Yeah i mean look we. We have a history now going back over a decade. If we're to believe that the that the heels were formed in part through team usa activities. You know which is true which is true. That's that's yielded an extra things guy. You know guys who you mentioned. Tatum and bill because they were already friends but guys also become friends through this experience right and then they start getting the ideas about playing together. Like oh hey. This is a lot of fun. Let's do this again in the nba. So there's i'm i'm sure some of that is is happening. It always does. Who else in that group. I mean man. If any of these guys that'd be trying to recruit bam out a bio but he's too early in his in his contract with miami to pry him loose from there And you know the heater still a pretty potent team but you know jimmy butler is up there in miles and outta bios future won't necessarily be there forever. That's the way it goes in the nba. I think tatum has the potential to be like the biggest recruiter. They're like he's about to start the first year of his max level extension. He can recruit bill. But like you can also does damian lillard like. It's great to play in boston. I love it here. Answer some questions of my have a playing on the east coast for the first time. Like i think data might be boston's best asset at this point. Yeah again some of this comes down to bradley. Beal's coming up to that point where he has the leverage to task out because of his contract lillard under contract for several more years and so he's not in that position. So what if it says. Like i need to go like. I don't foresee the blazers being no finish your contract. Just don't see it. i think right. And they would work with him on a deal to sure but directing it is harder so beal can use the leverage of his free agency to say well if you send me to team x. I'm not gonna resign there. Which then blows up that deal and he can direct himself to the team he really wants to be at lillard would have a harder time to doing that. Because he doesn't have free agency looming two to play that card. Yeah well i encourage any reporter. That's in tokyo tatum. Beal and lillard talking to each other. Just take a picture and then let the internet go wild crazy because it will unquestionably last thing for you. Howard the breaking news. This week in the coaching ranks. Is that jamal moseley is headed to orlando moseley of course last with dallas. A really well respected assistant coach there. Who was a candidate for that. Maverick job before. It went to jason kidd my immediate reaction to that higher howard beyond i think being an excellent choice for orlando is that we're gonna look at at moseley and jason kidd on parallel tracks. The next couple of years moseley. There was a strong case to be made that he should have been elevated to that head. Coaching job he'd been considered for other head coaching jobs. Before most recently in new york he had by all accounts a great relationship with luka doncic i understand bringing kit in he's got a history with dallas and as riccar lau said publicly having a player that played the game like kid and having a player that plays the game like don-shik make some sense to pair those two guys together. But there's always going to be as i watched these two situations unfold. I'm gonna wonder you know. Did the mavericks make the right choice. Leading jamaa moseley go and bringing jason kidd in and there's so many variables in this the first being at orlando's in step one or maybe even steps zero of a massive rebuild right there in the negatives right now. I think there's still maybe more fat to trim on that roster before they really bottom out. Yeah and you know you talk about trying to build around. You know markelle foltz. And and jonathan isaac jonathan isaac for so long. They're getting hurt and he's a great player but they've loved writing in a weird way john stays healthy. He's still more of a complementary store right like he's he's a potentially defensive player of the year at some point. He's not a guy who you're building an offense around though and marquel foltz okay. He he got himself back on track in orlando. He has a career now where he didn't have one but he's not a foundational building block. Come on like that's crazy so the roster doesn't have much talent jamal. Moseley's is coming into a situation. Which a lot of first time head coach is committed to which is all right. There's a lot of work to do so You're gonna have to do a lot of development. You're going to have to take a lotta lumps in the win loss column. It's gonna be rough going for the first year or two or maybe three. Let's see how they can get things going. But you know as it has been a certain other like kenny. Atkinson came to look a completely hopeless situation in brooklyn but was known as development coach in atlanta. And sure enough. Everybody who went there. Joe harris spencer. Dinwiddie jared allen versus lower. First round picks. Guys who were you know whether they were reclamation projects whether they were low picks everybody seems to get better the second they went to brooklyn and play kenny atkinson and his staff congenial. Moseley have the kind of effect in orlando can the front office. Get him to kind of guys. That will thrive in that in that kind of environment and carve out careers from cells and carbon identities. Jamal moseley has a lot going for him. And we've heard like many great things about it but we often hear great things about assistant coaches who don't end up panning out so i always. We have to caution ourselves on these things. Because i thought. Brian shaw was gonna be a great head coach and he was. Everybody loved him all the players sung as praises when he was associate head coach under frank. Vogel indiana he goes to denver probably just the wrong guy at the wrong time but he hasn't had another shot since then but that went really badly. Brett brown was really great in in some respects for the for the early years of the process and then suddenly. It seemed like they'd hit some sort of ceiling. Eager kokoschka of had been talked about for years is a great assistant. Coach didn't work out. Swells head coach in phoenix. David dale bumpy ride in memphis and then disastrous in new york. We just don't know like luke walton. Another example like there are plenty of coaches who as their when their assistance. We hear and see the best of them and then you know some of them be go on it and have great success coaches. I mean tyler has been fantastic. Mike malone has been fantastic money williams. Nick nurse dwayne casey a lotta longtime assistance. Get their shot and then you know it. It works out in a dozen. It's all contextual. It's all just the opportunity you have the thing for dallas is. They went with a guy who has experienced jason kit. That experience was not necessarily good experience. Like i think most people around the would look at what he did in milwaukee in brooklyn and say. I'm going to steer clear. Maybe you'd rather have the the unproven. Jamal moseley versus the somewhat proven jason kidd but. I don't think we'll know what the right choice was there for a while yet. Because it's it's gonna take some time before we can evaluate moseley as head coach. I maybe jason kidd learned something in two years as an assistant. I mean that happens. You know working with lebron for entire for two entire seasons working under frank vogel maybe picked up some things that'll be useful to him as a head coach. Moseley to me. The key is giving him time. Like you've got to be committed to moseley for a minimum. I think of three years and more likely five years. And then you see what you have in head coach. You mentioned gore. I mean it's worked out for phoenix. Absolutely but i do think he got hosed out there i mean he only had one year on the job and that year was without deandra aiden chris. Paul had devon booker of course but that was not a good team that he was coaching. There i gotta get moses the because you want to see what the guy can do when you put that team in a position to win a great example to me is james breglio in charlotte. I mean berea. Was one of those guys assistant coach elevated to head coaching position in charlotte. Not great first couple of years there but when he was given players and chance to win he did pretty well. I mean up until lamelo ball went out the horns were really good team and i think they will be a good team. Going forward in part because of the borrego is a pretty good coach. I want to see this magic team. Invest heavily in jamal. The you're the guy developed these guys and we'll keep you around no matter what the won loss record says until you get a chance to win then you judge like brett brown six or seven days since brett brown left but i can see the for letting go of brett brown. I mean they had a talented team and to a degree the underachieved. But you've got to let the coach get a roster on that level before you really make any decisions about whether they can coach. Yeah well and that's the thing about. This is what set up says apart. I think the good organizations from the bad ones is that you you decide when you choose a guy. Especially if he's a longtime assistant not a guy with head coaching experience. And you've said we believe in this guy. This is somebody who's got a great trekker record as an assistant. We're going to first opportunity. It's your obligation to when you say investment. Yeah it's time investment. It's a give them all the tools to succeed. Give him the time to succeed. You've decided you believe in him. So stand behind that have the conviction to stand behind that and take some bumps along the way you know maybe maybe memphis and or the knicks should have stuck with david physed longer. You know we had heard nothing but great things about fiscal coming out of miami. Initially we may yet you know. Find out that he. He can be great head coach in the right situation. Maybe those worth rights situations. He might be one of those guys though. I love physios and assist one of those guys. Though the just the temperament is always important. Like the government like memphis yet. Some battles with market assault didn't work out your plus new york. You just might be one of those guys that doesn't have the right temperament to be is based on what we've seen a memphis in new york might be better suited for these ranks but if he succeeds in l. a. I think he'll get another chance right. Maybe i think the point being though that if you as an organization have identified a guy instead he we believe in him then. Okay then believe in him. Stick with them and make sure you've given them enough tools to succeed Is it a pulling the plug at the first sign of of struggle and that's what happens in the nba. too often. is that seems panic. You know the fans turn. There's some minor flare up. Oh the coach and player got into it. Whatever it may good teams that can happen on as well. And it's it's just. It's the way franchises. React so you have to know whether or not the guy is is is right and then stick with them. And so yeah. Let's jomo's should get a nice long here. She got a ton of latitude in orlando given where they are as an organization given the state of that roster. Yeah i agree. Howard enjoy milwaukee looking forward to hearing the conversation with the lazarus on friday. You can check podcast. Right here on the crossover feet again. Make sure you listen to howard's interview. Spencer dinwiddie from last week. It was really really strong. Enjoy -joy the mid west our. We'll talk when you're back on the northeast always a pleasure. My friend the newest player in the pre nba basketball landscape is overtime. Elite elite will begin playing sometime in the fall. And we'll be headlined by some of the top now. Former high school players in the country players would be paid minimum one hundred thousand dollars with some making north of that and have access to high level facilities training as well as educational programs to help. Get a better grasp on that. I'm joined by brandon williams the head of basketball operations for overtime. Elite and kevin ollie the former. Nba guard uconn. Coach was the head coach and director of player development bread. And i want to start here with you. Just kind of give me the ten thousand foot view overtime elite. What are the objectives. What what what was behind the formation of this league. I think any of us. Chris who've been around for a long time i've actually seen Sort of the downside of young players who entered into professional ranks to this point. It's been the nba Who are not ready. And so what does that mean you know not not ready to form and be stars or is it just not ready to be great teammates or is it not ready to be good partners. is sort of all that you know the idea that the work day is much longer than they know. And that there's more responsibility to be in a professional athlete The responsibilities to families and communities we just have to do a better job preparing them and here was an opportunity to be part of a program that wanted to address all that. It's not just about being a good player. It's like we wanna address the whole athlete. Hope so on. Three levels were hitting basketball. Easiest thing understand. I think businesses in our world is education And then there's brand you know. These young people now are moving at a speed that we aren't as older folks and they want to build things An earlier age particularly off the court so building a brand is important something that can last well beyond their tread on tire so we're hitting it in basketball business brand. That's that's that's really thirty thousand foot view. Kevin what attracted you to this job. Just like his dad is the whole person being able coach them from a mind body and soul Experience and understanding the mindfulness athlete I've seen it from a pro level. Got up tune into play thirteen years with twelve different teams so i understand like the different trials and tribulations you go through with a player not saying that these players are gonna go through that but is getting them more prepared if they do come into some certain situations where it's not typically going the right way. How can they manage that situation. So what they do today can echo into tomorrow and having the ability to kana paint on a black blank. Canvas is what a really attracted to me to to this you know. Ot league program we can take the player really shape the curriculum you not with teaching them about subjects. But we're really teaching them about themselves as well from media training From mental health issues. All the different things that come involved because we all know chris is stress. You know from success is a lot of pressures is a lot of people pulling at you. It's a lot of people won't certain things. But how do you deal with that from a player's standpoint where you can play when you get on the basketball court and half clear and not be caught up in the distractions of off the court issues. Um as desks desks were really kind of vocal. Spirit to give back in it and how these kids you know. Have these players be available at the moment of truth to make the right decisions and that was very important to me. Kevin as you mentioned you played in the nba brand. You played in the nba. As well i wanna ask both of you guys and kevin. I'll start with you like if this was available to you as sixteen. seventeen year. Old looking back. Would you have founded attractive with a definitely founded attractive You know i kind of thought the box anyway. I was from chris. Shaw from from from south central and i chose connecticut. So you places that. I didn't even know nothing about growing up. You always thought out the box and never wanted to go down a path that everybody was going down So i was always curious. And i think that's how my mom especially my mom. My dad raised me. So i definitely been curious of this situation. No no speaking now without you know took it. I'm not sure. But i think it really gave me another option to look at it and this is what we're trying to do not saying that the ncaa is wrong overtime. Leaders wrong or right. It's not about that. It's about if you really care about the student. Athletes you give them as much options as possible. And i think this gives the lee student athlete. Another option and i think you know it's a very Great option for them to have and if they choose overtime league we're going to give our whole heart to make sure they're developed on and off the basketball court chris i- jumping after coach It would have been interesting. Chris but i certainly would not have been a candidate i would. Let's just get that right. What what things that's important. We sit down going through just grassroots community and we spent months just talking to people educating about. You know what we're about who we are. Each of us has a reputation in some other space. Not here The this program isn't for everybody is not the right fit for everybody. We are cherry picking and a lot of ways. These are players that feel like they are destined for professional basketball. There are a lot of sixteen year olds. That don't know that yet and their parents aren't convinced that yet in people that support them. Don't don't feel that confidence yet. They may be another year away or two years away but this is not. This is not the right path for everyone. Twenty four athletes roughly twelve per class. We're looking at juniors and seniors and the truth is at this age. What was really funny about scouting them is everybody's skinny and like a lanky and underdeveloped and still has like a mountain of upside to you know to to get through before you can really see who they're going to be but you know if you have a young player like brand williams who's just dreaming of being an nba player but does not much certainty. That's even realistic We gotta be very careful about this approach In taking because there there are risks but for those that that have already established in this deke. They've established a day of separated from their class. You know jaylen. Lewis has an example the most recent example. He's he's he's elevated in separate. The draft isn't tomorrow though so there's still a lot of work to do but he's already in front running physician and it gives everyone low confidence that this is the kind of investment and the kind of pet that would make a ton of sense for players like that. Let me follow up on that brandon. Because you're you're entering. What suddenly become a fairly crowded space in terms of leagues like this. You know the g. league ignite is one season in but they've had a measure of success. We've seen jalen green probably a top pick. Jonathan kamenga top five or six. Then you have the ncw with this. Recent ruling allowing top players to make money off their name image and likeness. How does how does the elite separate itself from that group. Why think i is. We start a little bit sooner so the g. league zone a great job with what we call it a year the prep year that year. That a recent graduates would be going to college and they've already been hacking the system you know going to italy or china So so there's a market for those players and we want an alternative to college for for for us though. Our players are seeking an alternative to high school so we are a school but we think about the resources that were bringing to the table first of which being an nba like environment You know start coach. Ali coach lehto in a robust set of staff. I mean scouting staff a high performance staff administrative team. Our goal was to simulate an nba organization for for young athletes at sixteen seventeen eighteen. Th there there is no other environment. Like that. And i think the big way that we separate with high school athletes Is that both domestically and internationally. We're able to put twenty four of them together in a building. So what we're selling is the best competition for these guys starts at home. I mean every day in line coaches don't minister drills administer competition aspects of practice and getting ready for games but when you look to the right and left and i noticed as a player. There's no weak link. I mean everywhere you look. There's somebody that's doing what you're doing and possibly doing more. Because they they are not just dreamed about the into the league or to the high level. They're on their way there That's where we've been able to. I think create a little separation from others that have tried or looked at something. Like this kevin. How do you approach this job. Do you do it in a similar mindset and you had at uconn where you have young players you also you know yukon. You had to keep them academically eligible you to follow that pretty closely. I mean is there is it a similar mindset or do you take a different tact. I think you just let it be you know. Similar is not. It's just whatever comes you say yes to it and you cultivate hope from it I never coached high school players. They was always you know graduated from high school. And now they're freshman's This situation is a little different in in was recruiting for two to three years. This situation is a little different. But you know from me. Chris i love the unknown about it. And that's the space i live in. Not just wanna make sure that. I have the space incorporate something in these players that they can just think about it can build from a have a foundation so when they make the transition they have every tool in the toolbox to say okay. Oh that's a problem Assess it let me be able to correct it. Let me obsessed. Let me be aware of it and i think that's the difference between you know coaching a high school kid in in the college. Kid i mean you get able to mold them a little bit better and then you have to understand where they at. Now you know back then. I didn't have social media. We didn't have social media now. These kids these players are building their brand a little bit earlier and now you just meet them where they are. And i can't wait to get them up on campus get them up until atlanta just continue to build a great relationship. Welcome spend time with the one on one in. This situation is going to provide us to do a lot more skill development that i didn't have a really good opportunity and it had not one say good opportunity. I didn't have the best opportunity. Because there's so many things we own a row recruiting You own a row fundraising these different things. Brandon's taken care of in. Dan porter is taken care of. I can just really coach the player and work on his skill development on and off the basketball court. So it's really given me my own lane. So i can really perform my job. Mama job is really breaking down and relationships it starts. Relationship is start with trust. Stars will hold is spending time with the the young student athletes on and off the basketball court and pushed them to greatness and the competition is not on. our side of competition is with him. You know can you beat your previous best bestself. Can you be better than today you know. Can you be better tomorrow than you were date. And that's what i'm coaching. And that's what i love to do. And i think we're going to have some great young man as open as biden has going to be vulnerable going to try to reach for the sky. In the sky is going to be ob- you is not going to be limits. I can't wait to get up to atlanta. We've been having some many camps. Chris has been wonderful to get back on the court with the guys. And i'm looking forward to the next mini camp and dan looking forward to getting them up to atlanta. So we really can go to work. You know when. I was was talking to brian. shaw a couple of months ago. Kevin about how he was coaching. The ignite you know it was a lot of pro stop. He was trying to bring to that team. Are you taking that same. Approach you trying to coach them like their nba players or something different. No it's nothing different is just. I'm building pro. Habits in every situation is going to be different. Chris this is going to be some guys. Come in you know. Say for instance like a. John montero will we got him and he you know is a little bit more advanced than some other players because he's been a pro- already and then it's going to be another situation where we gotta talented guy might not be able to get quick but these opportunities we can go at our own pace we can sit down and talk to them but we're really teaching and building pro habits and those habits is going to translate over to them being great pros when that opportunity come invest in the nba are the euro league so every day you know we are building like a practice plan like more of a college practice plan nba practice bandwidth doing drills. That i got from my numerous stops in the nba. You know we're doing sets in the nba. Then we gotta understand that sixteen years old as well you know and maybe sometimes you gotta you know kinda doubt it down a little bit. But i'm gonna let com. I'm going to let that go. i'm not going to focus on one of it. I'm not gonna say oh. We're doing this process. 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Divers inventors patent and unleash economic opportunity. Find out at invent together dot org learn more and take action today brandon not to continue to compare this team to the ignite but when i talked to sharieff abderrahim about that i mean. I had asked him about the sustainability of that team. Given how much. Money was being poured in to pay some of the players. And he bobbed and weaved floyd mayweather trying to answer that question. Because it's it's hard to commit to it without say a television contract more sponsorships and things like that when you can you speak to kind of the sustainability of this because we've seen startups with an influx of cash. Get get in big the first year. But then peter out. I mean what needs to happen. Four overtime elite to become a long term successful program while has got to answers. I think you know a concept. I mean we're we're selling on the ability to develop young players and have a more more pro ready right. So this is. This is the path we are offering basketball development. Call it professional Business development And we are also like leveraging. What is an incredible media platform that again. The things that we like to call a distinguishing factors. That's a huge one. So not to bob and weave one. We gotta be good ass. You know that. That's how have long deputy spurs the spurs. They were good for really long time. And so we've got the that there were good at this note. No pressure on kale right The the the second piece though is you know and this comes from my my time in the nba. It just wasn't that long ago where it out of chicago. Pre-draft combine interview. If i said. I wanna build my brand. Everybody in the room was like smirking and like you know what. What are we talking about like. It's about basketball basketball basketball And you know if you are young team developing and not winning a lot of games truth is you can't sell just basketball because your basketball isn't great you got to sell personalities and stories in that there's something that people can invest in in fall in love with other than like the final score like otherwise. The sixers had no chance right any any development team yet to buy into a story and for us. I think we have a chance to create stories but we get a chance to show those stories because we have a platform. So it's it doesn't take much. I mean i'm not a social media guru. But when i got recruited for this job haven't been around the block a little bit certainly from an nba perspective. I heard a couple of things. I really got my attention. One was fifty million followers That's eyeballs and we all know that that Business follows the eyeballs in whatever in whatever respect. The other was which is unfair. Because i think that number changes month over month but it started at one point four and not set maybe one point eight or one point nine billion with a b. billion views of content a month that overtime in some ways has found a way to the heart. The mind of young people It is being communicated and solid as you know the generation z. sort media and content engine We are doing an amazing thing here which is developing young talent in a pure way that we want to make sure that they are prepared. Top to bottom to do well on the court to do well and communities to do well in business but then there's this other thing which is they want to be known like. No player wants to play in an empty building. Everybody wants to play where it matters. They wanna play. When nick can rock and like the building and just like recognizing their talent. We're just artists. And one thing that is kind of showcase. By one event that that overtime overtime the media company producing s called. You see it on youtube to. Is that over. Hundred million people watched that. I mean that that's not an insignificant number that players that are going to play overtime. Lee will have the opportunity to be known The the opportunity of bring brick big brands to the table and support this platform If not already indicated by the kinds of investors that that have shown interest but the brands that are coming to the table our sustainability is going to be showing value delivering value to not just the athletes but to overtime visibility. I would imagine great for them but can you monetize it. Can you make it so this league is in the black or does it need to be in the black every year. Well my the good news is as a basketball man. No different than a different than the is Get a budget. My job is to be fishing and and spend wisely. I i'm not. I'm not asked to sell tickets or generate revenue that's for a tremendous And in successful a business operations Our job is to make sure that what we are delivering is high is a high level product That you see the growth and development of our young players. What's there recruited. We gotta make them better. They need to be able to perform and probably the best testament of our success is going to be our nba. Gm voting with this pick right but with a coach saying like they did a nice job. This guy was. Well coached testament to takeo and the rest of the coaching staff. That if we're doing that will prove successful. Because guess what the next crop of recruits when we're in the gym like we're not chasing them. There's sort of meeting us at at minimum half way. We need to keep bringing high level taliban and developing talent to prove successful and i have a tremendous set of partners across academics and across content media. That will will do their part to elevate our business. Can you expecting to tap into some of your. nba relationships. I mean as you mentioned thirteen teams in twelve seasons. You've made a lot of friends over the years. We're going to see like san preston sitting in the crowd for your practices as a whole so sam and so many gyms that i know you know Kevin durant and all these guys are destinies in overtime. Just having them be around. We had our first minicamp. Ray allen showed up and not only showed up. He brought his son to work out with guys. Just it was just amazing. does just see how the branches that we can continue to pull up on and they continue to pull on us and be a partnership in. This thing is going to be great. Are you expecting to have kind of drop ins. Durant's involved with the league. You expecting these guys. Just be around. Which i would imagine would be both a resource for you but also an attractive quality to this league definitely. Definitely we going to build a place where it's going to be hopefully a development premier development destination for everybody and you know hopefully katie can come out and work out with guys and russell westbrook and james harden and all these guys that we know and i know i had opportunity to be evolved. Then it's kinda beat a veteran guys We want them to be around. Because it's not. Just me sean. It's also watching tape like these are the different drills and look how k. d. and look how chris paul is using the pick and rolls and now they're showing up that's a that's a big big bang for us with us growing these young talented student athletes To get them inspired to the next level and they're doing a great job done only gonna do. I coached him. Chris a coach me on a day to day basis. I'm open to that and we just really want to have a love affair with guys and and the end of the day chris. We want appease the basketball guys. We wanna play the right way. We want to share a basketball. We wanna run. We wanna have fun. We want how to join the game but it can't just be me me me. It has to be weak. And i'm wanting to teach guys how to be involved in any system they get drafted about. They can be a part of a productive system and be a productive partner in in the community as well no matter what city they when they arrive to the nba brandon. Before let you go. What schedule gonna look like i mean is this team playing. Just walk me through kind of what these kids are getting into. And what kind of schedule you gonna be able to put together so schedule that that is really interesting for everybody. And i wanna try to illuminate. But i've got to be careful we are still contracting with some teams But for the audience the think about it in buckets. We're gonna play independent prep schools. That's going to be a significant part of our schedule. We are a high school so we are looking to schedule. Some of the top independence that you would typically no to have a national schedule can travel that have the ability to be mobile. We're scheduling home and away with with With those folks and it looks like net set as an example It looks like you know. Folks that are playing for a national title Arizona florida california. So it'll be a widespread travel schedule for us. We're also looking at European competition so think about junior euroleague as an example. Some of the best clubs the Insects as an example Where we can get a collection of sixteen to nineteen year old elite talent to compete against us. And then as i mentioned earlier on the show we really feel like the best competition is gonna come internally and that's where our league play Comes into effect so we are looking at our group of twenty four as three teams of eight. There will be standings you'll be able to track will compete against each other. That'll be a significant part of our schedule as well. We don't want to overstep our guys one of the things. We really wanna correct leading science. Guide us here. is is minimized the wear and tear. Nobody's while still developing and preparing for a professional level place so a schedule of maybe thirty five. To forty games is our target. We started september Training camp will will begin Play by mid august. We'll be done by by Late march is how we see our schedule shaping up i'm looking forward to it brennan kevin. It's a really interesting concept and hope you guys have a lot of success with an. I'll certainly be watching a lot of. Nba people will be watching but brandon. Stay out of a set of massachusetts. Kevin has like some basketball. Ptsd from all those bc. Matchups i'm sure would probably were so tough. I don't remember kevin. It's not real like talk about it. But lita past. We'd be six thousand. That's not very nice. That's hovering kevin brand. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it all right. Thank you chris. Thanks so much.
Terry Meiners
Nigeria Wins Historic Upset Over Team U.S.A. In Olympic Exhibition
"Men's Olympic basketball is up to eat. Well, um, it didn't start off well over the weekend, they had their first exhibition game against Nigeria in they lost What? 92 87. Team USA goes down, So we got that going for us. Wait a minute. Isn't Kevin Durant on that team? The guy that carry the Brooklyn Nets on his back. Of course. Kevin Durant. Bradley Beal Bam out of bio. Draymond Green Game. Dollar is on their Jayson Tatum. They've got a pretty good lineup. So they lost to Nigeria. Wait a minute. There's some Nigerian players who are actually NBA players. Right there are and there are a few NBA players missing from that team that are still playing in the finals. No Djourou HOLIDAY. No Chris Middleton know Devin Booker. But the Nigerian squad does have three guys from the Miami Heat roster. Also one of the Sacramento Kings, a guy for the Minnesota Timberwolves and one of Donovan Mitchell's teammates with the Utah Jazz. Good for them. Congratulations, Nigeria. I think they taught a valuable lesson to our Guys on USA team that always thinks it's going to just steamroll everybody. I hope so. Because the last time the U. S, the U. S men's national team lost an exhibition game. They finished seventh in the feeble World Cup just a couple of years ago, so Hopefully they right the ship and we don't have one of those performances in the Olympics.
The Jump
Team USA Roster Set as Injured Harden Pulls Out
"Move onto usa basketball the roster taking shape led by kevin durant. It will also include this team usa. Dave lillard draymond green. Brad be obama to bio jason tatum. James harden did withdraw because of his hamstring injury. He will not be able to make it. Richard is this a gold medal. Roster in your eyes yes because they have the shooting. The one time we didn't win the olympics participant to make sure that the next twenty years were successful.
ESPN Daily
The NBA Play-in and Most Enticing Playoff Matchups
"Kevin arnovitz how you doing man. I'm well how are you. i'm good. I'm kind of preemptively overwhelmed. Kevin because i'm looking at the schedule for the nba playoffs four games. Saturday four game sunday and then it sort of continues on forever as this thing tends to go. Are you already overwhelmed or you cited. Where are you emotionally. I'm well-named excited. I neither some great first round match up. So i. I think it's kind of a more interesting season. I think kevin arnovitz has covered the nba for espn. Since two thousand and eight and he has a steel trap of a basketball memory. So i wanna start with game. That is still stuck in my brain. Kevin and we had this moment where the nba even as it is variously. Well-named was sort of all gathered around television watching the same exact thing. And i'm talking about the lakers. And the warriors and what. They did on wednesday night. Because lebron steph were certified filling every kind of dramatic potential that we hoped for them to meet. James drives onto scotto anderson tax at home curry reverse with the english class. Had lebron hitting an enormous absurd prayer of a thirty four. Footer puts up the three expires after which he admitted that he was seeing like three rims. Because he'd been poked in the eye by draymond he may have been plagiarising rocky four in the process but he wins the game that way. The whole thing was insane. And what i want to ask you about. Kevin is what you thought. The phoenix suns were thinking when they were watching that game unfold. I think phoenix is oddly. Confident like i. Obviously you run a great risk when you draw. Lebron james and anthony davis but i sort of liked the way. Phoenix is approached. This whole thing
BBC Newsday
LeBron James Makes Game-Winning Shot as Lakers Overcome Warriors to Reach Play-Offs
"Says he was seeing three rims as he sank a long range three pointer to sink the Golden State Warriors 183 100 in the NBA play in game it followed James being accidentally poked in the eye by worries start Draymond green, his teammate Anthony Davis after the match. First of all I didn't want you to put LeBron is on a lot more. You know, head shots like that, You know, I mean, but he's got his whole career indeedy highs and James would like to continue that legacy against the Phoenix Suns in the playoffs.
Lakers Nation Podcast
Lakers Fall to Knicks as Turnover Problems Persist
"My goodness they put on a passage clinic tonight in how not to throw a post-entry pass. They threw the ball everywhere but where it needed to go in that was sure frustrating. Yeah, and you know the Knicks they are they are incredible defensive team actually and you know, it's kind of it's it's nice to see Julius Randle playing so well off the same time. You don't like to see him. Obviously, you know, this was the Julius Randle Revenge game. We had kind of made reference to that in a really kind of turned into that. But yeah, as far as the big man Montrezl Harrell Draymond Green were effectively almost neutered and I I mean, I texted one point Rez looked like he was getting abused by Taj Gibson, you know, and you know, they were they just thought I'd like to you know, one point in me if the games to Lance was doing commentary. I don't know if you got that version, but I wouldn't like to see if the Lakers went really small to counteract the what they were doing on the interior, but then right after school and said that actually Frank Vogel decided to bring Casal and so for mantra so they went the the other route blood no matter what we looking at the page. Whole game I'm I personally I know a lot of people might be upset. But I personally am giving the Lakers actually a pass on this one and
The Cedric Maxwell Podcast
"draymond" Discussed on The Cedric Maxwell Podcast
"You agree with him Nick. Normally you are or you are pro managed you I knew it. I knew it knew that was Jesus know. I'll start their shoes off with this the big girls love that shakes the last progress children. And you're you're asking showing you killed my 12 podcast. There's gross way. There's Max. I'm somehow in the mix here, and I'm loving it. Thanks guys. And I think yeah man, this is great and I will tell you it's great because of one reason Dre. Mom green Draymond Green's baby. What the hell double standard? I agree with them. I'm going to throw it to Max you agree with him Nick. Normally you are or you are Pro Management. You know, I knew it knew that was Jesus know. I'll start there. He said it off with this. Yeah, why not because I know it's a topic that's on the tip of our tongue because you know and and truthfully I know you two are going to disagree with me. So I like that and I just feel like it's any other choice will employment and you get fired for any reason except to ask you to do something illegal. And therefore if they want to arrest somebody like drumming should be able to and in terms if they want to fire somebody like Harden they should be able to so meaning, you know to comparisons Max would say you and now you're going to hate everything. I just said life. Where were you at with that Nick? I mean you're using when you went down down the street and then came back and I don't even know where you're at. You said the topic here is that Draymond Green is talking about a double standard in the NBA saying that owners get mad at James Harden when he wanted to leave town and he dogged it. I think at the same time. And when players have guaranteed contracts then team sitting them out and say okay, we're going to trade your now but we're not going to play you so you can just sit out. So what is where is the big difference in because they because they own they they're running the team. Yeah, but Max is a whole other part of it's easy for Draymond to leave out. I mean, let's face it you do you think Andre Drummond wants to kick it there and Cleveland, you know, he's in on this right? I think that's a difference there because whereas when the player is getting traded or at least another situation where players getting traded off and doesn't want to leave. Yeah. He has no say in it. Then when the team I agree with that is the way to trade in it. Oh, you know the teams not always quote unquote loyal right, but then when the issue is not loyal as a big problem well addressed in Acura, right? I am I did come up all over.
FOX Sports Radio Weekends
Kerr: Green 'crossed the line' with late ejection
"102 100 Terry Rozier, nailing the game winner. He tied the game late by making two free throws. After Draymond Green got ejected for losing his temper over a jump ball call and after the game, Warriors said. Coach Steve Kerr addressed the matter, saying, quote Green Cross the line. That's the main thing. We love his passion and his energy. We would not be the team. We are without him. But that doesn't give him license to cross that line. And he knows that Close quote in college
Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
Chris Broussard: LeBron is right, KD, Warriors Big 3 were better than Nets
"Asked about playing in next week's free for the first time on thursday. Lebron james pump the brakes on calling it. An unprecedented collection of talent reminding reporters quote. We forgot about katie. Stephan play. already. I mean there you go there you go right there of course lost back to back finals to the warriors big three that he referenced right then i first sard is back joining us. I don't think so chris. Do you agree with the brown hair. Well i i'm guessing that skip sensors and alterior motive. Oh i won't go there. I'll be interested in seeing what he says. But i'm going with the golden state guys staff clay and and i've got five reasons why number one the pieces fit together better when those three katie went to golden state. We had no questions about whether or not it was going to work because none of the guys are ball dominant. None of them needed the ball in their hands. A lot to be effective and give you twenty plus points. Obviously james harden and car. We have been bald dominant dribble it a lot which can make it more difficult to fit together now. They're fitting together great offensively but theoretically there games are a lot more ball dominant. Golden state guys to golden state was better defensively. And i'm not just talking about draymond green. Who's not even part of this conversation. You add katie. Who was younger and i. I'm sure it was a better defender at that point. Then he can be at this point a little older often an achilles injury and then klay thompson was a legitimately very good defender. He made an all nba. Defensive team steph obviously is in the category of harden and kyrie. None of them are really great defenders. The third thing better shooters as well as hard and kyrie shoe. And they are great shooters steph. Curry is the best shooter in nba history. So good that he changed the game. He literally changed the way the nba is played because he's such a great shooter and clay is arguably arguably the second greatest shooter of all time again that enables you to fit better together and certainly for today's game the better shooters i mean. That's a huge thing. You have fourth no drama. They they they were low maintenance guys in golden state k. d. had a little drama but for the most part that's a low maintenance group in brooklyn i i love his game but i gotta worry about kyrie. He was playing great at the beginning of the season. And then all of a sudden just went awol. Is that going to happen again. Is going to be happy. The entire season playing shooting guard. Or will he get the rich to have the ball in his hands more again even last night. Why was car sitting out. They said back tightness. But i bet you replace the next five games and is fine and plays great like they need to be on the floor as much as possible. I can't be legitimately injured hamstring but kyrie hard and they don't need to be just sitting out to rest are so the drama a is there. And here's the final thing steph and clay before k. got there. They proved that they could lead a team to a championship. They proved they didn't need this transcendent lebron or k. d. or somebody like that to lead them to a championship. They didn't need a stack team. They did it on their own k. D. was certainly the best player on those golden state teams but he went to a champion. Already he is still yet to prove. He can lead his own team to a championship. Even though it was the best player kyri hit one of the greatest shots in nba. History may be the greatest. But obviously that was lebron's team. Kyrie has have much playoff success without lebron james yet and we know harden has yet to prove that he can lead a team to a championship. So for all those reasons. I'm going with golden state
Paul Pickett Podcast
"draymond" Discussed on Paul Pickett Podcast
"On Apple spotify amazon. I wanna say deesor tune and radio iheart radio and more so yeah definitely. Hit the subscribe button. Please leave any comments any topic to you. Want me to discuss you. Know domini comment section or whatever but this is his last topic last time it was very interesting draymond green you know being a very colorful guy. His does it bite his tongue. Mr say what. He feels. Which i love that. Because that's my aka musician artist name. You know palmisano aka. Mr say what phil but he pointed out the hypocrisy of i guess sports in general not just the nba but sports in general where you know player like james harden comes out publicly. Says he wants to trade still plays still plays. doesn't sit And media just he gets media backlash they crucify and i guess the word Draymond uses castrate so he gets crucify castrated criticized. Whatever you wanna say. 'cause he called it comes out you know. He publicly says he wants to. Trade doesn't sit plays and guest crucified. Now another other hand though. Nba team can come out publicly. Say oh we're gonna trade this guy we're gonna sit him. We're not gonna let him play. We're not gonna let him do his job that he gets paid to do whether he wants to do it or not. We're not gonna give him a choice. You know to to work the job or going to trade him and we're just going to treat him like a transaction that's really. It's an apocryphal. It's like a is is very hypocritical. Man like you know. So what i'm guessing is the you know they need to do a better job of keeping trades non-public and you know it's like in if they're not then immediate needs to do a media needs to do a better job of not being in hypocrites themselves because this to hypocrites sensitive situation. It's the media and the owners ownership in the media. That's the apocrypha in. If is i you know. I hate in this world. Excuse me i have been not say. Hey hate speech. What i hate hypocrites. I hate hypocrites or should. I just say i dislike hypocrites. Don't like a hypocrites. I don't associate with hypocrites you know. Don't socio with dishonest people. You.
The NBA Show
Do Positions Even Matter Anymore?
"Now i'm joined by yahoo serious so he and she wrote this article about draymond green. She wrote an article about the idea. That draymond green is almost a position unto himself that now new players come into the league or filling in so i wanna talk to her about that and i thought it was a fascinating piece because you identified a bunch of guys use value. I think are were only just now starting to understand so before we get into our conversation about like positions and howard thinking about positions in the league across the board. Just tell me a little bit. About what attracted you to this idea in the first place like was there a big bang moment that you were like i think i ll adore is also part of this yet actually was I was watching. I was watching the rockets take on the thunder in the playoffs. And there are a few moments where statement just couldn't close out on pj talker. Who's obviously pointing the five. And then they had to madore at the five and he's six four was already crazy. The pj tucker six five center was starting and that was a response to that. It was a natural response and it was the right response. Underplayed way better with him at the five and they went away from it. Which is i think why they lost the series and it was just kind of interesting to me you know. You didn't have a workers in the playoffs. But stephen adams is being squeezed on both sides. He just can't get away from this thing. That dream on started like on one end. It's we can't defend on the other end like there's there's this young guy who's coming for a spot and he watched even again. We're gonna talk about this later. But if you watch stephen adams now not exactly fitting offense. No i mean. I almost wonder whether or not steven adams was like an enormous tax locker room. Guy like that that he was brought in. Now you can almost make the argument that he's there to give veteran leadership and just like established like a certain culture at the pelicans. Because obviously encore doesn't really work the way. I don't buy that at all veteran leadership. I can these signs of guys and then they're like yeah. That'll that'll play well. They had drew holiday last year. They found jj radic for the past two years. They have veteran leader. Sure especially since. I feel like grip is also read coyotes piece earlier this week. Try to roll bledsoe into that as well as like. No no no you guys go up bledsoe on the back end of that deal. Because that's we got. I see what they were trying to do. Which is like they have like the young guys and then they have like this mix of old guy so that young guys never turned into the wolves and wind up not knowing how like which way is up and all but they're only like a few steps better than the wolves to host stephen adams this much money also the wolves beat down. Yes that's true. How are they really. They made the wolves. Look real smart on offense. Yes which is impossible so wanted to ask you about this idea that i've been thinking about especially as regards to ben simmons which i think has become like a little bit of an obsession of mine this season. But it's like where is he appropriately situated on the court. There's like the physical like. Where does he stand part. And then there is the conceptual like do we think of him as a point guard. Do we think of a four or are we starting to introduce like a certain new kind of lexicon of the way we think about players. Like whether it's the dunker or like a cook cling cappella roller or a guy. Who is you know. There's all sorts of a huge constellation of terms. We use. Is that a better way to think about these guys in does change their value at all. Because i thought like your idea here that the draymond is almost a new position. Now you could look for was fascinating and there's no question to me that it changes the value of the players of one of the things. I noticed while reporting that article was just the fact that once you name something you start seeing it everywhere like tournament use that you see in life all the time and it was. It was pointed to detrimental. These guys because they were doing things in the court and a lot of the people i talked to. Just one of the things to that stuck out was scouts. Were just like you. Just don't don't doubt winning. If the guy has contributed to winning plays this was this was wrong. One of the college scouts said scouted grant williams. So if the guy's making winning plays don't outsmart yourself just because you can't find a way to put it in a box. It's probably something that you don't quite understand yet just because you can't understand it doesn't mean it's not effective in that definitely plays a role with a lot of guys in the league. So yeah tha t to that point a changes your changes your value just because like this league is a lot more because a lot more than i think people realize it. A lot of people are out to win. Press conferences in if you can't quite explain what you're going for with certain player. I think it makes it harder for you to recognize. It also makes it harder for you to sell which matters on every level matters when you're scouting and you're trying to convince your head coach your your gm or somebody else and then for the gm. It's like trying to convince the owner. Then you know that's gonna be that's gonna be defined the depending on the franchise you are. Some of that is going to be defined by the media will perceive a certain selection to Be it's interesting. i think i'm kind of. I'm kind of going to this place whereby my pet theory now watching the heat watching the sixers has become that you can. You're allowed to have if you really smart. And if the other shooters are andrew or really good they can make plays. You're allowed to have two guys. That aren't very good shooting on the court
First Things First
Top NBA Performances From This Week
"Nick given three performers from the nba weekend. That was our. let me. Just accept this up for america that you might be wondering. What's the committee going to do win. The nfl season job transition to a side gig which is nba metal committee. We're gonna go every night in the nba. Give out a gold. Silver and bronze of monday shows even harder. Because we have to take all the game from friday saturday and sunday. I think we're starting with the bronze medalist. We ever really gone over this for first time doing it. Bronze medallists paul george. Hey way off the playoff. Who knows but i know on a sleepy night in january. There's very few guys. You'd rather have thirty nine points quiet. Leonard didn't have it. He prevented the clippers from having back to back losses for the first time all year. Leonard your bronze medallist. So medallist. Jamal murray while call the yolk. We're gonna triple jamal. Murray just drops a thirty six five and four to lead the nuggets to a critical win after a bad one and four start and then your gold medallist. There is no question about it. This might be the performance of the year. One wardell stephen curry with sixty two points in thirty six minutes. Which by the way does mean step in dream on last night combined for sixty points. So draymond maybe should be included in that. But steph sixty points against the goal of that as the warriors. Get a needed win. Over the blazers. Those kevin wilds are your bronze silver and gold medal of the evening.
ESPN Daily
The Golden State Warriors Path to Regain Glory
"Hello hello pablo. I am so excited to talk to you today. Because you have been digging into the golden state warriors and you've talked to their players. Their coaches their executives. But i want to know what other people are curious about. They hear that you're writing a future on the warriors. What did they want to know can still work can steph curry dragged his team by the scruff of its neck into the playoff field. Can they approximate without klay thompson. Kevin durant gone even a glimmer of what they were during their dynasty. And that's what people wanna know. And at the center of all of this kevin this week in particular is steph curry and we can't begin this conversation without talking about what he did specifically on sunday night. How would you describe what you saw. It was a volcano curry leads. In one hand or just off balance grows it up. It's good he's got fifty. Career screen takes a deep free. It's god fifty nine points. Curry takes another three. It's up job. He's got sixty two just unspeakable three point attempts that no person with a good conscience ever a nation of basketball coaches is freaking out. Because they're going to have fourteen year olds in practice pulling up from thirty seven feet. There was the sense coming out of their very met to into road trip. That steps showing few signs he might. It's gonna happen. It may happen. Don't you think it's going to happen. He's starting to move differently. We're starting to find him. The ball and places he likes it and as draymond green said to somebody on the staff. All it takes is one in. We saw that one sunday night against portland and essentially recreated the steph. We knew for those five years over the dynasty. Let's be clear about what the prelude to that career high sixty two was because he was shooting. What like twenty percent from three in those first two games so when people are begging hoping for that volcano to start shaking again. Why do you think it actually ended up exploding as it did. I mean one is just the laws of inevitability second is in your staff. They all emphasize this. And it sounds a little bit like spin. If you're if you're sort of cynical which is look. He's playing with guys that he's never played with before. But when you really start digging into it and you remember what it was like to watch the weird they don't run scripted sets all that much mall. Those great beautiful plays that you see that. Look like basketball ballet. They use intuition. They use a million reps playing together to sort of know where everybody's going to be almost telepathically on the floor. And so you've seen that a million times steph. Runs comes off a pick and roll. He gives the ball up. He relocates to the corner other people kind of follow him there. Somebody comes off the other side and then steph kind of relocates again and you find him and it's so second nature if you watched it for five straight years you come to take it for granted but if the other guys on. The floor aren't versed in the dark arts of golden state warriors movement. It's harder and it was something that i think other teammates. The new guys andrew wiggins kelly oubre rookie. James wideman guys. Who haven't played as long with him. It takes a little while to get in the rhythm. There was like a moment. I think in the milwaukee their second loss of the season where you saw step come off one of those speaking roles and he was going to kind of go fast too slow to the right corner and there was somebody there right and it wasn't the fault of a teammate. It's just they're not equipped with the intuition and just the nuances of golden state warriors basketball. Which essentially is how do we find steph. The right shot at the right moment at the right time precisely where he wants it. It's funny
CBS Sports Radio
Kevin Durant dominates in long-awaited Brooklyn Nets debut
"Let's start with because this was let's say a nice present for everybody, right? C l smooth this is, um you get Kevin Durant. In his debut with the Nets, and I mean, what did you make of that performance? Eyes to things. I think number one. You look at what Kevin Durant the way he was able to play. Um, it was pretty much again his look like her but healthy. His explosion has returned. But then also it was a little caution because the Golden State Warriors as much as we thought that they were going to be this back to normal type of situation, obviously losing Clay Thompson But they had so many deficiencies. I don't know if it was really Ah, great test. I think that on the on paper, it looks good. And maybe for the first, maybe first quarter attended 12 minutes. You kind of said Hey, but I think Derwent was remarkable. They pretty much got every shot that he wanted. I just would have loved to have seen a situation perhaps, and Draymond green was out there and healthy. He was out there to be able to, you know, again, Place in solid defense. Aundre on Kevin Durant, but make no mistake. If you are Ned stand, and I think if you're a fan of Eastern Conference basketball, you could be very, very excited about the potential of a Durant and carry urban to go on with those other pieces in Brooklyn should be had been able to have a phenomenal