17 Burst results for "Drake London"
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"drake london" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"The home teams got decimated today. Did you see the final numbers for this? They're four and 11. Get the spread. Yeah. The road teams were 11 and four gets the spread. The dogs today went, uh, eight and seven, but seven of the eight won outright. And then the other, uh, number trend was there were three NFC versus AFC games and the NFC went three and oh. And if you're moving toward the theory that the NFC might be better than the AFC, or at top heavy or something like that, it's just something to watch. Well, I wonder though, you know, maybe we should consider that with the home field and the, because you know, if San Francisco goes to Pittsburgh in December, that'll still win by 30. But you know what I mean? Right. It's not, it wasn't, it wasn't much of a home, except the Pittsburgh got a rabid fan base, but it's not much, these games in September don't really matter. Home, especially coming off a preseason when half the guys haven't played. So I, I wouldn't consider home field as a big factor anymore. Warren Sharp talked about this on Friday's Pod with House about how Vegas has actually changed. When we were growing up as, as young fledgling gamblers, it was always, he had three points for being at home. And he said, it's not 1.5. That's what they factor in. So there's, you've lost a point and a half with that. Uh, we got to talk Tannehill. Yeah. He was so bad. He was the reason they lost. He threw three picks and they dropped, they dropped the fourth and probably touched, I would say three more. And it just didn't seem like he could complete out passes anymore. He missed, they ran a trick play at one point and the guys wide open and just sailed it over his head. He just looked to me like he was done. And I think that Tennessee team's pretty good. And they had, they need to figure that out. I can't believe they haven't figured it out. I can't believe they haven't figured it out. Right. It's like a year and a half. And well, I know Levis is new, but, um, they should have figured something out with Malik Willis. I don't know what they could, I don't, I don't even know the value of a player anymore, whether it's a receiver or running back or a, or a quarterback, but isn't there someone I'm trying to think who's out there that could, because did you pick Tennessee to win the division? I still did. I did. I'm not going to give up on it because I think they have a good team, but Tannehill costs them the game today. 5%, 7% better than Tannehill. I think they're in this race until the end. Honestly, I don't know who that quarterback is or if he's out there, but, uh. And by the way, Ritter, Ritter's another one. I just don't think you can win nine to 10 games with Ritter from what I've still never seen him play even a decent game. Cause I watched the games he played last year. I bet on them a couple of times, let us down. And then today I thought they won despite him. I didn't think he did that much. He had one nice start to Pitts near the end. You have Drake London. Was that you that had Drake London against me? I had Drake. There was a couple zero, like there was Drake London. T Higgins put up a goose egg. All the Chiefs receivers were a catastrophe on Thursday. There were some bad ones. The, uh, the Bijan-Algier thing, which seemed weird when they did it. Now Patterson didn't play today. The combo was amazing. I was thinking like Gibbs and, uh, Gibbs on Detroit and then Bijan. Those are probably two of the, like the, what, six most exciting running backs right now. Yeah, definitely. And he only had, well, only, I guess they're breaking them in, but he had 10 carries, right? And Algier had 15. So that's a nice, that's a nice one too. And if you had Ritter, I know his yards weren't up there. He had 115. God, these, these stats are so weird for Atlanta to have killed Carolina, but he was 15 for 18. So if it's all checked down from Ritter and he stinks. No, I know, but he might not have to do much to compete in that division that everybody wants to bet. Except maybe if they can have some leads and running game and get him confidence. I just haven't seen it yet. Maybe it's there, but I just haven't seen it yet. We'll take a break and then we'll, I had one more thing I wanted to play with you and then we'll go to Guess the Lines.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"drake london" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Every like again, 27% target share last year, second highest among tight ends 28% of his team's end zone targets prior to his injury. Second highest among tight ends tied for second highest, but three or fewer receptions in eight out of 10 games last year under five fantasy points in six of 10 under 12 fantasy points in 21 of 27 career games, they just added Bijan Robinson. Arthur Smith wants to run the ball. And I don't know if that's because he feels like he doesn't have a choice because he can't throw the ball because last year, you know, um, uh, Ritter wasn't great and Mariota wasn't great. And so he felt like the only chance he had was just running the ball or if that's just a philosophy. I mean, he came from Tennessee where they had Derek Henry, uh, you know, Kyle Pitts had a thousand yards as a rookie. And then last year, like nothing and we'd be like free Kyle Pitts and the talents off the charts but they also have Drake London and they just added Bijan and they're run heavy. And we don't know if Desmond Ritter's any good. I think we know the answer on Desmond Ritter and it's a thumbs down. I, I think Bijan Robinson to me was my, my backup guy was going to mention at the end of the podcast for my end for a make or break guy. Cause he's one of those. I think he's going to go for more than you think. I think people like him. He's fun to have, you know, it's a, he's like this flashy new toy and there's a chance he might just be fucking awesome. Like really awesome. So I think he's going to go for more money than people realize. But it's also one of those things where if you're in it and it's like, whoa, we're at 27. Oh my God, we're at 29. Oh fuck. All right. 30 and that now we just get to like 38 all of a sudden with Bijan Robinson and nobody knows what's happening. I could see that. Well, here's the case against Bijan Robinson. And to be very clear, I don't believe this case. I'm all in on Bijan. But the case against him is Arthur Smith. And what if Arthur Smith decides to give, I don't know, five to seven touches to Tyler Algier, who had a thousand yards last year. And, Oh, here's three or four touches for Cordero Patterson. And all of a sudden he decides to throw it more to Kyle Pitts and Drake London. And then all of a sudden you're like, you know, Bijan Robinson goes from being like, he could be a top three fantasy running back to now a guy who's more like running back 12 that the argument against Bijan Robinson is Arthur Smith. The usage that doesn't seem to make sense because we all thought, well, you use the top five overall pick on Kyle Pitts. You're going to throw it to him. Right. Yeah. You know, like use the top 10 overall pick on Drake London. You're going to throw it to him. Right. And so, um, but I will tell you that, I don't know, just I think Bijan Robinson's one of those guys. Like I just, I think he is special. Uh, I have interviewed him. Uh, and you know, Bill, you've done this a lot too. Sometimes you interview a player and it skews you, you know, like whether you like the guy you don't. And sometimes I don't always translate, but I thought he was so impressive in terms of what he talked to me about his approach to the game and his attitude and what's important to him and everything I've heard from people around him, just, you know, somebody who was super focused on football, really. Um, I think he's a great kid. Uh, and, uh, you know, obviously the talent's off the chart. I think Bijan Robinson is going to have a monster season. I'm a big, big fan. I wish Al Jair was on a different team because he would be my number one guy to get. I thought he was awesome last year. That was the last team that needed a new running back. I know they love him. All right, here's my guy, my make or break guy before we go. Okay.
The MMQB NFL Podcast
"drake london" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"Bengals, Buccaneers. All right, four games go in the lightning round. Look, the Bengals just keep on cruising here. Dicey first half, but they take over the second half. Look, Tony Romo is a nice Midwestern fella and an optimist and I think he was really trying to find some ray of hope with this Buccaneers offense. As the game was wrapping up, he was kind of like, you know, I think we saw some positive steps forward. I think it can be saved. I would gently disagree while recognizing that he knows a lot more about football than I do. I think this was the game where they rolled out on the new stuff, and it worked for a half. And then the Bengals were like, oh, okay, so this is your new stuff. And then it was done. And then they couldn't, they turned the ball over a lot, and I talk all the time about sort of the flu Ness of turnovers and how it took. But they had no hope of moving them all in the second half of this game. So it was just, it was just sort of, you know, it was like cutting out the middleman between having to punt it on another three and out. It's just turning it over, and that's how their offense function. It was more play action, a little more motion, and, you know, I think it caught the Bengals off guard, and then it didn't. And then it was over. This is not true. I mean, Tom Brady knows more about football than probably any living breathing human at this point, but I just like the idea of, you know, these I don't know if you saw the report where Tom Brady essentially has like a closed door Saturday meeting now without Byron leftwich or any of the coaches in there in which he gets to like change the game plan, which is very funny. But I just, I like the idea that, you know, he's 46 now. The idea of him just going in there and starting to like any 46 year old, just starting to say crazy things that don't make sense anymore and him just being like, ah, we're gonna do this and everyone's like, oh God. What's happening here? And I doubt that that's happened. But it's just one of those, like we're all like, where is Tom Brady going to play next year, but all the players in the bucks are like, he's just making stuff up, man. This is totally crazy. Falcons saints. Also the NFC south really eating each other. Of late here, the saints end up knocking off the falcons. This was Desmond Ritter's first start. He looked, he looked like a guy making his first start. I thought he was, you know, the ball placement wasn't great. I thought he looked a little bit slow, processing. He looked like a rookie quarterback, who wasn't quite ready for this. I feel like the saints in the falcons play every week in a game that I just don't want to watch, right? It's just every week I look at the schedule and I'm like, oh my God, it's falcon saints again. How did that possibly happen? I don't, you know, not a whole lot. I mean, there's a Taysom Hill touchdown of all things, and he was upset about that diet he's a male comment about. Clearly motivated. Yeah. Clearly motivated. But I don't know. I guess positives Drake London got the ball 7 times.
Ultraflex Football
"drake london" Discussed on Ultraflex Football
"Special. He leaves me presents on the floor. Every day when I get home, all right? And we let him out, we take him for a while. He's getting older. What? He's getting older. He is getting, but he's been doing this his whole life. That's not an excuse. Like, he's never learned and then what happens is we put him in a crate. We were like, you know what, we can't do this. He's pooping in the house. We're just gonna put him in a crate while we put him in a crate. He like breaks his teeth and stuff, 'cause he was chewing at the bars while we were gone and then he poops. He pees, he pukes in the crate, and then he rolls in it. So we get home and he's a poop dog. And we got to give him a bath. So it's better just to pick up the turds when you come home. It doesn't even try to eat it too. Oh yeah. Yeah, sometimes you'll see like a tiny little turd and you're like, gee, I want to wear the rest of that one. Remember when my dog picked up your dog with her mouth? Yeah, that's what happens when you have a 60 pound dog and a ten pound dog in the same house. So neither of my dogs really give kisses copper dog. He never gives kisses. Maybe like twice ever I've gotten kisses from him. He just doesn't give anybody guesses. And steal occasionally well, but yeah, neither reminder really kissing dogs. You're on the 48% side. Yeah. I guess so. All right, jump into fantasy time. We're gonna do a little stardom sitting for I can't believe we're already at week four, almost a quarter of the way through. I guess that's different now because we're what 17 games. But my start at quarterback this week is going to be someone I probably wouldn't have guessed to start the year. It is going to be Marcus Mariota. And it's solely because he has, in my opinion, some of the better young weapons in the league. Cow pits, finally got the ball a little bit last week. Calling for him to get the ball, the previous couple of weeks, and then I said that the rookies are down, the exception to that is Drake London, Garrett Wilson, and Chris olave and Drake London happens to be on the falcons and is having a monster a year. And Cleveland is a bottom third past defense so far. I think there are ranked 20 seconds. So my start is Marcus Mariota. I have something to support that that sounds pretty wild, but would you believe that the second highest over runner of the week is Cleveland at Atlanta?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"drake london" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Well, we still have more to do. But yeah, you won that. You know, I don't like this version of Jameis. It's not quite a turn that TikTok. Yeah, just it was more fun when he was either throwing pictures or touchdowns. Now it's neither. Now he's just in the middle. Yeah, now he's just kind of, they're just punting on fourth down. And he's got, it seems like he has good weapons. Sure. Yeah, where's the electricity? Once Michael Thomas proved that he was back early earlier than we thought, even though it's like three years later. You thought that you figured they'd put up points, but I mean, the fact that olave is actually good, you would have thought, all right, this is an offense out of score 24, 27 points a game. Nope. And I can't tell you could make a case that they've just gone against good defenses and the Carolina's defense is better than people realize. So this would be the game. That's 300 and 50 three yards passing. I know, but it was a lot of their down 15, whatever. It didn't felt like it didn't feel like consequential yardage. Did you feel like I never felt like they were in the game? No, I guess. I'm just looking at there not the lobby was great. A 147. Trey kwon Smith at a 105. It was Michael Thomas who really couldn't get started or drivers. I mean, that fumble, that Kamara fumble, just doomed them. They really just didn't come back from that. Well, we'll see this week because I think this is the saints offense has a chance to get going. This will be the week. They're saying they may cancel this game because the queen, they have to go week three of the morning of the queen. Jesus. Can you imagine having respected either way? Political figure that people would love this much? Like a football game, week three would be in jeopardy. I'll probably get hate mail just for wondering about this. I have a 7 fairly watchable. Okay. Browns falcons starting with that one in Atlanta. And I'm going to acquire the falcons are just ineligible for the poop vector. They're super fun to watch. I really enjoy the Drake London's really fun. Fence is really fun. Quarter old Patterson, he not only looks like Dickerson all of a sudden. He was like hurtling dudes on lean frogging defenders, I know. Oh my God, really. And I think Mariota is I really enjoy him. I think he fumbled that sit there. He did, right? That was kind of like just did it for them. He fumbled the snap, and because I had money in the falcons, I was like, here we go. It's another, it's another birthday anal probe for your guy, Bill. But no, Gino Smith had other ideas. Right. We'll stop betting the foul. They won today, so that was good, but in general, let's just enjoy them. I don't know what the word is, but I just thought the line was off. I usually bet when I think the lines off and that one, they were favored by one. I thought they should have been favored by three. Because I think Seattle's bad. Well, they're bad, but some of these teams have such easy games on their schedule, like the bears Texans. They win by accident. And if Seattle's got a home game, it's kind of had a beat today, right? It had to be one of them, but you're right. Yeah, you think. Frisky. What'd you have for this line? I have browns by two at Atlanta. You get this one too. I said plus one. It's plus three. It's a full three. I figured, I don't think
Ultraflex Football
"drake london" Discussed on Ultraflex Football
"Who is your third, who's your receiver? I don't like it because he's tail. Excuse me, he's talented, but my sit for wide receiver CD lamb, just because of the dac injury. If you have better options, I would probably explore it. At least for a week till we see, I just don't know what to expect out of them this week. I would expect you to get hyper targeted, but because the only receiver there besides belt and shoulders, that's any good and don't show anything. It's kind of why I said, I didn't feel great about it because he is good enough to still get it done. I just didn't see a guy at the top that I loved as a sit this week. I just decided to go with CD. We'll see how it goes. I mean, honestly, when you say stuff, when you make predictions like this, you're just looking for a path. There is a path where CD just can't get the catches because he's got Cooper rush going to him. And to me, there is a path for Drake London getting I mean, not having a good game. He might have a couple catches for 50 yards or whatever. But if you have three catches for 50 yards, 8 points in fantasy, that's not going to win you a week. There's not a path for the Buccaneers to shut down the saints. Oh, absolutely not. You don't even see the thing. I'm just kidding. Of course there's a path. But if you can see the path, that's why you put the name out there, right? This is fantasy football. We're all just guessing. Even the top analysts. I'm not guessing. The top analyst last week did not pick the games. Correctly. Rob, you probably did better than 95% of all analysts out there picking games against the spread. Anthony, if you and I would have flipped our picks on all of them, we would have actually had a pretty good week. But I think I got like four right out of 16 game or yeah. You got 5. Like a 5. Give yourself some credit. How to flip them all over. I had 11 right. So if we want to segue there over to picks, I think it's a good time. We'll recap last week. Let's get
The MMQB NFL Podcast
"drake london" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"Brandon and ayuk has been getting glowing reviews in camp. They've got deebo. They've got kittle. They got a bunch of backs. I just love mobile quarterbacks. And you don't need to be the most accurate quarterback from a fantasy perspective. If you can run with the ball to be a starter, you remember Tim Tebow? I mean, that dude would throw passes that looked like they were shot in midair. And he was a viable fantasy starter because of what he could do with his feet. And that's why I love Lance this year. I think he could be this year's Jalen hurts. Interesting. As for George pickens, listen, I mean, there's questions about the Steelers offense because there's no more Big Ben. Trubisky is, well, trubisky, Kenny pickets, a rookie. You've got Deontay Johnson in the mix there as well. Chase claypool's in the mix. But I could see pickens, maybe jumping and in fact, I've got pickens and claypool really close in terms of wide receiver rankings right now. Claypool potentially is a guy that utilized in the slot and they'll have pickens and DJ on the outside there. But I do like the talent, I don't know that pickens is gonna come out light the world on fire like Jamar chase. I don't think there's that wide receiver in The Rookie class. Okay. I don't think there's like that Justin Jefferson or Jamar chase. I mean, listen, a lot of talented guys, you know, Drake London, quarterback situation is a little bit questionable there in Atlanta, and that's putting it lightly. Same thing with the jets with Garrett Wilson. I like Elijah Moore a heck of a lot more than I like Wilson, this upcoming season. But I do think people tend to get a little nuts, like the Isaiah pachenko. Oh, goodness. Yeah. He's insane. And okay. You want to pay attention to what's going on in the preseason, but I mean, you also got to take it with a little bit of a grant saw. Jeez Louise. Like, yeah. Maybe Ronald Jones doesn't make the roster and Pacheco is in the mix in a three headed backfield, but injuries would have to occur for him to get a chance to really make an impact. So yeah, I mean, you're obviously paying attention to these players. Look at what Isaiah likely did. Jewish. Doesn't mean I'm drafting him. Right, right? How much 12 has Roman run? I mean, maybe it's just because he didn't have the personnel, but I don't know that he's going to make a massive impact. A lot of rookie tight ends do not.
Patriots Beat
"drake london" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"And I think the biggest thing that you had issues with and looking back on our evaluations of Nikhil Harry and learning from that draft pick and things of that nature, you saw so little true press man coverage. Let's get in somebody's face and let's see if he can win. And the little sample size that Nikhil Harry did have against press man coverage was very poor as it translated to the NFL with the same thing. So I think the biggest thing that I had against the PAC 12 was one, the style of defense that they played was basically let's play a country country spot drop zone. We're going to sit back and cover four shells. Keep the top on the defense and let everything go underneath. And it allowed guys like Michael harriot to catch screen passes and drag routes and then take those for big plays after the catch. And the other thing that I would say is the speed of the conference, especially out in the PAC 12. To me, really took a hit over the last three, four, 5 years, going back to the Nikhil pic. And in that respect, I think that that was something that I saw on tapes with Drake London, for instance, right? Who I wasn't as high on with other people as well is these big receivers, these 6 foot three, 6 foot four guys that are posterizing people in the PAC 12, but are there actually running away from anybody, right? What's their game speed? Are they actually pulling away from defenses? And when you're not pulling away from PAC 12 DBs, I just have concerns from an evaluation standpoint. If you can't run away from a guy in the pack 12, then I really don't feel good about you running away from an NFL defensive back. Whereas when you look at the SEC guys, okay, like I can see AJ Brown pulling away from this guy, that really translates, right? Or even a guy like treylon Burks, who we all kind of soured on because of the 40 time and everything. At least he was out there running away from people in the SEC. So I think that's a big part of it with the PAC 12. So I am interested to see from that respect going into the Big Ten Ohio State Michigan, you know, some of these really blue bud power programs. Let's see what some of these guys look like. Now, in terms of the translation and projecting to the NFL against some of these defenses that have a little bit more overall team speed than what they were going up against in the PAC 12. Well, I think I mean at all positions too, the thing is the PAC 12, like you said, it's a very wide open game. Big Ten is not wide open..
Strong Opinion Sports
"drake london" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"Slightly get better. Hard to hate on someone who adds two new solid contributors to your defense. But last night, the packers did nothing to solve their biggest need, which is at the receiver position. Here are the guys that they watched get traded for or drafted last night. They sat by and watched as other teams made moves for these guys. AJ Brown, Marquise Brown, Drake, London, Garrett Wilson, Chris olav, jamison Williams, Jahan Dodson, trailer burkes, they just watched, like, you know what? We know we need a receiver, but we're gonna let 8 other receivers get traded for or drafted what we do nothing. They were all gone by pick 18. The packers first pick was 22nd overall. They could have traded up. They had too late first round picks if they wanted to trade up and get Jahan dots and I think would have been a great fit. They could have made that happen. But they refused to make a move. They're the passive packers. That's what I'm going to call them from now on. The passive Green Bay Packers, their quarterback has passive aggressive, their organization refused to make aggressive moves. All right. Sit there and watch. It's not compelling to me. That's the thing. It's not that the packers are bad or terribly run or all this stuff. But they're not compellingly run. When I watched Philadelphia trade for AJ Brown, if I'm an eagles fan, I'd be like, hell yeah, I love that. My team is making moves. Let's go. The jets made a move. The saints traded up to get their receiver they wanted. Sorry, sorry, the saints made a move to get the receiver they want to crystallize it. And the packers are just not compelling. Remember, Aaron Rodgers took their money. He chose to stay. Aaron Rodgers said, it's fine. He's like that meme or the world, you know, the house is burning around him. He's like, it's fine. I took $50 million. I chose money over winning. All right man, I hope you're having fun with no one to throw to. This is the true statement about the Green Bay Packers last night. They could have made they're not a victim, they could have made a move to go get a receiver last night, they chose not to. And I think they made their life a little bit harder. Hey, their defense is better. That's awesome. It's getting ready. I've always said, hey, who cares when you draft a receiver, you just need to get a good receiver, but there were good receivers out there last night..
The MMQB NFL Podcast
"drake london" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"And the saints hop up and get Chris olave at 11, which we did sort of the thought experiment during the mock draft series if they take a trail on Burks or Drake London or someone like that, that probably means they are ready to move on for Michael Thomas. Chris saleve seems like more of a compliment to Michael Thomas. Yeah, and that was speaking of player tweets. I mean, Michael Thomas applauded the initial saints trade with the eagles. And so maybe he perhaps he knew something that we didn't. All those Ohio State guys just talk to each other all the time, you know? Whether it was Chris O'Leary for Michael Thomas or Albert breer, you know, they all just, they all just gossip, you know? It's all hanging out and Albert's basement probably. Watching the draft in his rumpus room, perhaps. The Lions jump up to 12 to take Jameson Williams. I thought they, I thought this trade was really good for a couple of reasons. One, they didn't give up a ton to come up 20 spots. And on top of that, look, they want to sort of open up this passing game a little bit. If you want to see if Jared Goff is the guy or not, he probably isn't. But, you know, you want to give him a shot. Jared Goff had been in a highly schemed offense in LA. I think he was a little too conservative when he arrived in Detroit last year, but he sort of shook that off as the year went on. Well, now you got some big play weapons for him. Jameson Williams is one of them. Obviously they brought in DJ shark to go along with amanra saint Brown. That's a really good trio there and Jared Goff gets to show if he can once again establish himself as a franchise quarterback. Yeah, and to backtrack for a second, we totally botched the Chris olave pronunciation on our last show, but so did whoever announced the pick in the draft this year. Yeah, they said olave this year on TV. Like I did. But just letting everybody else. But so a couple of interesting things about the Lions pick. First of all, spent the whole combine hearing a lot of people rave about quasi, adolfo mensa, the Vikings, new general manager. This was a weird deal, right? The Vikings traded their first and second round picks, so 12 and 46 to the Lions for their first second and third. So 32 34 66. I mean, in a draft where it seems like the fall off was 16 or 17 in terms of talent. I think you gave up a lot and really didn't get a whole bunch in return. Yeah, it was a bit of a head scratcher, but everyone's bored is different if you thought the strength was, I don't know, 32 to 50, maybe it makes some sense. Maybe, yeah, maybe you feel like you need a couple more guys there, but the Vikings seem like, I mean, this is not a team that can just, you know, they're not like the chiefs where they can just hen peck around the edges here and just like pick up guys who fall to them. I mean, they need a lot of help on both sides of the ball. So I thought that was a little bit surprising, but jamison Williams to the lines. I mean, if I were Jameson Williams, probably wouldn't be that thrilled, but if I were Dan Campbell, I would be because this is such an organizational vote of confidence in you. Like they're treating you the way Brad Holmes is treating you the way that less need has treated Sean mcvay, which is pretty incredible. The commanders who had moved down from 11 to 16 end up taking John dotson out of Penn State and it's a nice pick. You get the sort of the speedy deep threat to go along with Terry mclaurin here. This to me was the sign that it was like, uh oh. There's only one left. If you want trail and burkes, you better make a move right now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, datsun was like the music playing during your Oscar speech, you know? It was like oh boy. Interesting stylistic compliments, right? I mean, we talk about that a lot on the show, but Curtis Samuel, Terry mclaurin, and datsun, does that fit what Carson Wentz does best? I don't know, do they care that it's what Carson Wentz does best, you know? At this point, I mean, did they kind of view him as a one year solution to their problem anyway? I don't know. But I also didn't think that was their biggest need. I don't know, very curious night for the commanders, I would say. So far. Very curious off season for the commanders, one could see. Yeah. And then obviously trailing Burke's to the Titans at 18 with the pick they got in the AJ Brown trade. Whether you're buying a new car or used one, it's a big investment, which is why you should choose Pennzoil platinum. It helps extend the life of your engine and protect it up to 15 years or 500,000 miles, whichever comes first, guaranteed. That's because Pennsylvania base oil is made from natural gas in 99.5% free from engine clogging impurities. The proof is in the Pennzoil. 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Listen to out of the shadows as part of the microtubule podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's go to the top of the draft because that's usually important. The Jaguars do indeed go with travon walker here. Later in the first round, they traded back into get Devin Lloyd, the Utah linebacker, versatile guy. So a couple of really versatile defenders joining their nothing on offense though. We do know they address that offensive line to an extent in free agency, but yeah, I don't know. What's your feel on walker this way? I mean, this is, this feels like the riskiest first overall pick in quite a while here. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Would you say, okay, this is going to get clipped and taken out of context. So every four seconds, I'm going to say, don't clip this and take it out of context. In the middle of my sentences. But is this, is this the most potential potential only based? Number one overall picks since JaMarcus Russell. Because you're betting purely on potential with walker, the production wasn't there, you're hoping that what you bring him into can turn him around, turn him into a star. I'm looking at the list of number one overall picks. Trevor Lawrence, Joe burrow, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield miles Garrett Jared Goff, James Winston, Jade and Clowney. Eric Fisher, I think, is different. I've heard 2013 to 2022 comps for the draft. I don't really think that. I mean, I think 2013 was just a bad draft. Andrew Luck Cam Newton Sam Bradford Matt Stafford. Maybe Jake long. From Michigan, maybe Alex Smith, another guy that you'd have to use so correctly. Maybe Courtney Brown. Maybe this was like a Courtney Brown kind of pick, too. It's a little bit, look, you could say it's a little bit clownish as far as the lack of production, but Clowney was just such an off the charts, just physical specimen coming into the draft. It reminded me, at least the news cycle leading up to it, and maybe that's the only comparison you can make here. It reminded me a little bit of 2006 when the Texans had the first overall pick and for months, the conversation was, well, Reggie Bush, but maybe Vince Young and then all of a sudden three nights for the draft. It's, oh, it's Mario Williams. Okay. And then that ended up obviously being the very correct choice. It's a little like that, I guess, but Williams is so much more productive on the collegiate level and also just again in the clowny mold as far as the physical traits go. And walker was probably the best traits guy in this draft, but I don't even think he was at the level of those two guys. I will say this and I think the Devin Lloyd trade up sort of hammered this home as well. Whatever they're planning to do defensively, it's gonna be, you know, it's gonna be a little bit. Let's just say it's gonna be multiple. That's a really lazy way of putting it. They want guys who can do a lot of different things well is what you're looking at here. I do think Aiden Hutchinson in the end, I think is a wide 9 pass rusher. And that's what he's going to do with the next level. I don't think there's another way you can really use him. Ron walker obviously you can move around a little bit. I know it's kind of a, you know, it's like, well, he rushes on the inside and that's it. Oh, that's all right. You can brush them on the inside. You're fine with that. Get in third down movement inside. There you go. Yeah, I mean, if you had the chance to take Aaron Donald at number one overall in that draft, you might have done it, right? Because that was the that was the other draft that this reminded me of because that was the Khalil Mack Jade young Clowney, Aaron Donald draft, right? And so in Khalil Mack was a little bit like walker and that he kind of really got pushed up the board late and then I remember former boss Peter king actually advocating for him to go number one overall a couple of weeks before the draft and everyone was like, what? You know, like nobody was thinking about Khalil Mack at that point being that kind of guy. But it was a situation where the defensive coordinator that was inheriting him had to use him in the right way. And this, I think, will just forever be the biggest gamble in Trent balke's thought process here, right? Selfishly, you're gonna have to legitimize this pick, but so much of the pick success rests on the ability of a coach who doesn't share your brain, you know? And is he going to be able to use him the way that you're trying to get him used? And is it going to look the same when you're not playing in a defense that just set the record for the most players on one side of the ball being taken in the first round of the NFL Draft? The other storyline in every draft ever held quarterbacks. Number one overall pick in quarterbacks. That should really just go on every podcast outline. Just the one quarterback, just Kenny Pickett going to the sealers at 20, the Steelers don't have to jump up. They just sit back and have their choice of all the guys, and then everyone behind them said, we also don't want a quarterback. So the Steelers take Kenny Pickett guy, they're obviously very familiar with. Even though, I mean, are they going to play with a smaller football this year? Are they going to let them throw like a hockey puck around the field? I don't know how this works. His hands are just too small, Connor. They're going to let him. I actually took one, I took it out of my son's hands like a couple hours ago. We had these little baby footballs. These little rubber baby footballs that you get when you put a quarter into the machine at the grocery store. It's like, oh, they're just gonna look Kenny Pickett Kay with the baby football. Yeah. I also just point out, like, you have a, you have a very young child in the house. She's literally the floor, like choking hazards? Like Connor? Yeah. It was probably a bad idea to buy him like a gumball machine football, but you know, he's swallowed and eaten larger pieces of food, so I'm sure a football had passed in a few days. Fair enough, fair enough. You make it work. But yeah, so old baby hands picket, being the first quarterback off the board here. Here's my thought process on it. If any other team besides the Steelers took him, we would have been like, what on God's greener, especially in the northeast, in an outdoor stadium, we would be like, what a God's green earth is going on. But it's the Steelers. And Kenny Pickett will probably play there for ten years and he'll be pretty good. And that'll be that, you know? I mean, they're just a well run organization. And well run organizations can do with the Steelers did, which is ignore the decline of your quarterback for far too long, and then just sit there 20 and just be like, you know, whatever, whatever happens happens, we'll take canny picket if he's there, if nope will take somebody else and we'll make them good. So we touch on the jets here. Really nice night sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, who, if you're not gonna get deebo Samuel, it's kinda like Garrett Wilson, is your next best bet here if you're the jets. And then obviously they come back in the first round, get Jermaine Johnson. A guy who, I mean, look at a lot of people thought he was a top half of the first round lock and he ends up sort of sliding down. I do want to talk about the giant draft, which, you know, it was a little bit, you know, by the board, a little bit chalk here, but I mean, they end up landing two guys here and came on thibodeau and Evan Neal that you just feel really good about. Yeah, and I think what's interesting too is a player who I don't think the Giants would have taken a year ago, 5 years ago, ten years ago. I think that they've always been fairly conservative when it comes to players who let's just say like, you know, the Tom cawthon regime especially, like, right? There's that matrix of like if a player is ever mentioned as having like some sort of like an outlandish personality or, you know, is more expressive or there's the rumor that he doesn't love football or whatever. Like that player almost always traditionally got lopped off Tom Coughlin's board, right? Or by extension, Dave gettleman's board because that's how Dave gettleman spent a lot of his formative years. And so I think that this is a chance for them to finally. Since Jason Pierre Paul came and left, they have not had that complete package in terms of tools at the pass rusher position, right? They've kind of just had guys, right? And they had to overpay for people like Olivier Vernon to make up for that. But now they have pure tools like intense speed and bend and quickness and power and this is something that is very foreign to the Giants. Over the last 5 or ten years, let's say. Indeed, indeed, I want to make one real quick point about K mount thibodeau and then I want to hear your Evan Neal take because I know you're a huge Evan Neal guy, but one thing I should have brought it up during the mock draft show, one thing that kept on coming with thibodeaux throughout the draft process because I just keep on watching them and be like, you know, I don't think Hutchinson or walker are generational prospects by any stretch of the imagination, neither is thibodeau, but I just don't know why he's not in the conversation with those two other guys. And one of the things that kept on coming up was like, ah, you know, not a lot of ankle bend is kind of limited type of thing. Like, he played last season on a bum ankle. Doesn't that doesn't that count for anything? Doesn't let playing on a severely sprained ankle factor into your assessment of someone's ankle bend? Yeah, it's pure laziness. And it was cool. You know, I did a story inspired by obviously a great idea that you had for our draft preview issue. And I got to talk to a thibodaux pass rushing coach that he had that he worked with during the pre draft process. And he had these slow motion videos. And I guess a lot of people look cool in slow motion. But the things that thibodeau was able to do with his body, like they have those dummies that stick their hands out and mimic like an offensive tackle. And he was like, he was like, it was like a ripple. He was almost like liquid, getting under his arms. He just does it so fast and he's just so fluid and he's got this array of moves. And I just think he's a really great, cool, fun player. And I think he'll be, you know, as long as the market doesn't just shake the enjoyment in the life out of him. I think he's going to be, I think he's going to be a good addition. That defensive line looks okay now. I mean, you know, it doesn't look great. I mean, Leonard Williams is still not going to happen. It's still not a thing, but it looks okay now. It does. It does. And you love Evan Neal. Oh my God, yeah. I put him number one in my mock draft. And it was funny. I feel today an inspirational pre draft phone call from former boss Peter king, who called, it was very nice and called just to wish me a happy draft. And we were talking about the number one overall pick and what we thought might happen. And he said, Connor, Evan Neal's not going number one. He's like, he's like, you need to understand that. And I was like, no, I will not understand it. And I held out hope that he was going to go number one. It was like 30 seconds before the draft. And if I did not have to assist in some kind of calamitous parenting duties at that moment, I was at my computer tweeting Evan Neal number one. Here we go. I was ready for it to happen. I think he is just a badass natural left tackle. And now he gets to play on the right side, so he doesn't have to, you know, I think he'll come out strong. He's gonna have a really good first year. And you know, Trent balke, you know, just you're gonna see what you missed out on. All right, we've arrived at the miscellany of the show. The potpourri category. I'm just gonna, I have three takes, I'm just gonna throw out and you can make them what you will. You can also throw out your own takes. Maybe we just saw a yell at the same time and see how it comes out. But I really, I love what the use in Texans are doing. I'm totally on the same wavelength of everything going on there right now. Obviously, but I love the Derek stingley pick. And again, I don't wanna like, I know we played two seasons after his freshman year. I don't know if he really put forth the kind of full force effort the last two seasons that maybe you wanted to see out of him. But I think there's a really likely scenario that Derek stingley ends up being the most valuable player out of this draft class. And there was all this talk about the top ten. Which was just nuts to me. So I think taking him third overall was just a tremendous and then kenyon green is another guy who was kind of being mocked outside the top 25 and that's sort of stuff, but if you want like a tone setting guard, maybe they play him a tackle, but you know, probably a tone setting guard here for a team that, you know, if you already have 17 running backs on your depth chart, the Kenyan green is the guy you get. So I love those two picks and obviously the Texans also picked up some draft capital moving down from 13 to 15 before they took green there and yeah, big night for Nick kasaria. Yeah, I would say if there's any if there's any person that you think can get the most out of a prospect who may have lost his way. It is text and super character coach Jack easterby. But no comment on that. But yeah, no, I thought it was a good night. Does this qualify, by the way? I said if the Texans got anyone that could directly help, love you Smith, run his defense, I would have to, I would have to fill I would have to buy, well, I guess the Texans had to buy me the pool, and then I had to float around in vanilla pudding. What did I say? Vanilla pudding was the only real solid thing we settled on with that. We're gonna have to get some sort of behind the scenes video of Nick asaro being like, no, no, no, we gotta take, we gotta take Kenneth walker here. We need another running back and love you Smith banging the table and saying, no, I need Derek stingley. That's really the only way you do it. And plus we said we do it same night as well, which, you know, just logistically, it was gonna be difficult to pull off or confirm that we had to pull it off. Oh, well. I think I have a little vanilla pudding upstairs, but you know, enough to fill a pool, question mark? You can eat that vanilla pudding in that would be a good compromise right there. Close enough, yeah. Kobe dean falls out of the first round, a little bit surprising, you know, the packers, packers do not take a receiver. I don't think he necessarily blame them based on based on the board, but I was still surprised that quay walker, I know a lot of people expected it. I was surprised coy walker went and Nico badine didn't, as our Albert breer reported the other day, there is some medical stuff going on with dean, that sort of added up that maybe scared people off,.
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"And take the receiver. This is a nice, a nice night for the Jetson giants from that standpoint. Yeah, I mean, Joe Douglas had as good of a night as a New York GM has had in a really, really long time. I like their draft slightly better than the Giants. And then to come up and get Jermaine Johnson to while he was slipping down the board was good. But yeah, I mean, they're leaving absolutely no excuse in a very important value to our year for Zach Wilson. And the saints hop up and get Chris olave at 11, which we did sort of the thought experiment during the mock draft series if they take a trail on Burks or Drake London or someone like that, that probably means they are ready to move on for Michael Thomas. Chris saleve seems like more of a compliment to Michael Thomas. Yeah, and that was speaking of player tweets. I mean, Michael Thomas applauded the initial saints trade with the eagles. And so maybe he perhaps he knew something that we didn't. All those Ohio State guys just talk to each other all the time, you know? Whether it was Chris O'Leary for Michael Thomas or Albert breer, you know, they all just, they all just gossip, you know? It's all hanging out and Albert's basement probably. Watching the draft in his rumpus room, perhaps. The Lions jump up to 12 to take Jameson Williams. I thought they, I thought this trade was really good for a couple of reasons. One, they didn't give up a ton to come up 20 spots. And on top of that, look, they want to sort of open up this passing game a little bit. If you want to see if Jared Goff is the guy or not, he probably isn't. But, you know, you want to give him a shot. Jared Goff had been in a highly schemed offense in LA. I think he was a little too conservative when he arrived in Detroit last year, but he sort of shook that off as the year went on. Well, now you got some big play weapons for him. Jameson Williams is one of them. Obviously they brought in DJ shark to go along with amanra saint Brown. That's a really good trio there and Jared Goff gets to show if he can once again establish himself as a franchise quarterback. Yeah, and to backtrack for a second, we totally botched the Chris olave pronunciation on our last show, but so did whoever announced the pick in the draft this year. Yeah, they said olave this year on TV. Like I did. But just letting everybody else. But so a couple of interesting things about the Lions pick. First of all, spent the whole combine hearing a lot of people rave about quasi, adolfo mensa, the Vikings, new general manager. This was a weird deal, right? The Vikings traded their first and second round picks, so 12 and 46 to the Lions for their first second and third. So 32 34 66. I mean, in a draft where it seems like the fall off was 16 or 17 in terms of talent. I think you gave up a lot and really didn't get a whole bunch in return. Yeah, it was a bit of a head scratcher, but everyone's bored is different if you thought the strength was, I don't know, 32 to 50, maybe it makes some sense. Maybe, yeah, maybe you feel like you need a couple more guys there, but the Vikings seem like, I mean, this is not a team that can just, you know, they're not like the chiefs where they can just hen peck around the edges here and just like pick up guys who fall to them. I mean, they need a lot of help on both sides of the ball. So I thought that was a little bit surprising, but jamison Williams to the lines. I mean, if I were Jameson Williams, probably wouldn't be that thrilled, but if I were Dan Campbell, I would be because this is such an organizational vote of confidence in you. Like they're treating you the way Brad Holmes is treating you the way that less need has treated Sean mcvay, which is pretty incredible. The commanders who had moved down from 11 to 16 end up taking John dotson out of Penn State and it's a nice pick. You get the sort of the speedy deep threat to go along with Terry mclaurin here. This to me was the sign that it was like, uh oh. There's only one left. If you want trail and burkes, you better make a move right now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, datsun was like the music playing during your Oscar speech, you know? It was like oh boy. Interesting stylistic compliments, right? I mean, we talk about that a lot on the show, but Curtis Samuel, Terry mclaurin, and datsun, does that fit what Carson Wentz does best? I don't know, do they care that it's what Carson Wentz does best, you know? At this point, I mean, did they kind of view him as a one year solution to their problem anyway? I don't know. But I also didn't think that was their biggest need. I don't know, very curious night for the commanders, I would say. So far. Very curious off season for the commanders, one could see. Yeah. And then obviously trailing Burke's to the Titans at 18 with the pick they got in the AJ Brown trade. 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"So the other question for the last display devil's advocate with Baltimore, but we're hanging on to his pick. So we got to get moving. Their typical MO in the draft is to hit doubles not homers, right? Like one of those teams that's usually pretty set on, we're just going to get it right. We're not necessarily going to hit the highest ceiling. We're not going to hit a home run. But we're going to get on base with every pick that we make early in the draft. So then it's probably not Jameson Williams, and it's probably Garrett Wilson. Yeah, maybe it's a better fit for them anyway. Yeah. So direction that they go here with this pick, I think, is to move up the draft a wide receiver to help out. All right, I'm just forcing it because this is right on the trade chart. All right. So we take Garrett Wilson here. Are we taking Jameson here? Garrett Wilson, based on wages said fair enough. Yeah. I mean, they like big receivers and let's drink London. I know you don't like them, but they might like Drake London better. Yeah, I mean, I like Drake London in general. I just don't think that I would take him if I was Bill Belichick just because of some of his shortcomings. You're not Bill Belichick right now. You're Baltimore. Drake London Garrett Wilson, who's a double. Which one's a better double? I would say Garrett Wilson. I think they need to be able to create separation of that receiver position. I get the contestant catching the catch radius could be helpful too. And some degree can make that argument, but I think Garrett Wilson is the best option here. I think him in the lobby are getting almost underrated at this point. Yeah. All right, so there's that. We've made our first trade, this is best player available. I think this is cave on thibodeau. Yeah, if they get kid one 8, that's incredible. I mean, that's an incredible pick that that's a home run. Absolutely. No pass rush last year. If he stays healthy, he's.
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"All right, so speaking of the Patriots. Brings us to the Patriots last one of part one of our series. The Patriots at 21, boy, you really want to give them devonte Wyatt, huh? Well, I want to devonte Wyatt to be gone by now, but I have a lot of problems. I had mocked them and inside linebacker, but I don't think either of the two that we have gone right now are stylistic fits for what Belichick wants to do. He's a tough, he's a tough guy to peg. And if I'm bell check, I'm looking at this receiver class. You did some work there, but, you know, there's still a lot to like there. I mean, you have olave, you have datsun. You have Drake London who are still on the board. I mean, you know, and I mean, Trey Lin Burke's, you know, all these guys could theoretically help Mac Jones too. And, you know, I don't know. I don't think he's averse to trying another swing at a first round wide receiver. Yeah, Ole dotson both kind of fit here. I don't want to make it sound like demonte Parker is your solution for the next decade, but obviously they went out and got Parker, another big bodied guy along with Kendrick Bourne and another guy who gives you some blocking value on the outside as well, but yeah, I think again, because we all love stylistic compliments. I think my gut is olave, but I think it's gotta be either O labor dots in here. I don't know if it makes sense to go get devonte Parker and then draft Drake London or Trey Lambert. I agree. I say, let's take olave off the board here. You're building around Mac Jones. I think if your Belichick probably figure, you're gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna draft some versatile safety from Nebraska Kearney that's gonna play there for 11 years. And in the second round and everything's gonna be fine. Defensively. It's roster building one O one. That's right. All right, Connor, that does it for part one of the mock draft series. We're gonna be back on Wednesday. First thing Wednesday morning with part two, gosh, we're going all the way down to pick one O two. What a thrill ride. This is gonna be. And we'll complete our rankings of Law & Order district attorneys. The MM QB end.
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"The eagles once again, we just had them taking Jameson Williams. I just want to talk about the defense real quick because Jonathan gannon did not do a whole lot of blitzing last year. This is a team that was very blitz a verse, especially early in the year. They kind of rolled it out a little bit in spots as the year went on. He was also, I thought he did a perfectly fine job. I thought he had a solid first season's defensive coordinator there. Boy, it seems like a lot of eagles fans would disagree with that sentiment though. Houston Texans interviewed him for their head coaching job. I mean, which is not. As a wait a minute, is that a good thing? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? 'cause they also never mind. I think they interviewed a lot of Chick-fil-A GMs too, but so I don't know. I think there's a really good edge rusher on the market. I think that they went Hassan Reddick, which sort of tipped their hand on the Witten Hassan Reddick in free agency, and I think that's sort of tipped their hand on what we know we need. And Brandon Graham now is 34. And it's going to be playing on the other side there. And as good as he's been for you, you know, Fletcher Cox is getting old. I think you're going to need some pop there on that defensive line. I mean, Carlos, this is available, or, you know, because to me, I view like Trent mcduffie is a bit of a reach still. I think he's a back end of the first round guy. But I don't know, I could be, I'm ready to be, I'm ready to have my mind changed. The only other person there I could probably see there is maybe Dax hill, we've heard the Malcolm Jenkins comps there and it's a player whose stylistically fit really well and did some good things and Philadelphia for a very long time. Yeah, for that reason, I always like Dax hill in the spot, but I do like the thought of when they won the Super Bowl. It was that front four and that front four is getting up there specifically Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham who were really the stars of that unit. So I think Carl lathis makes a lot of sense here, even though you have retained Derek Barnett and you've brought in Hassan Redick. If you are a team that is going to rely on playing a lot of coverage and need to load up on guys who generate their own pressure. Yeah, I think Carla is fit that mold. Bing bong is one would say, there goes George Carla. One of my favorite players in the draft. So that was number 18s the eagles three picks to go. We have another repeat here, the saints. We just had them taking the quarterback in Matt corral and look, they're staring down a bunch of pretty good receivers at this point in our exercise. Yeah, Chris olave, man, Drake London is still here. You know, if you're thinking about building around Mike Thomas, then Drake London probably isn't your guy. You know, so I like some of the other guys that could play off of him. In an offense like this and man, there's some fun guy, there's some fun players left on the board here. Trailing Burks is still there. Chris olave, I'm happy if I'm the saints based on how this shakes out. So thrilled with the trade up that we all panned..
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"Bet online where the game starts. So Kevin, I've started to do tip my toe into the draft waters and I've started with receiver because I do think the Patriots have some interest in getting somebody and we talked about they don't have any receivers signed by 2023. And you would love to have a guy that you can bring in with Mac Jones and sort of pair him with him. You know, I wanted to ask you because I was listening to Chris Simms podcast the other day. And he had his top 5. He's often unorthodox, but I think he's pretty good at what he does and he knows what he's looking at in terms of talent. I found it very interesting and I wanted to get your reaction. That he all right, crystal lava sort of like a borderline top 5 type of guy in terms of at the receiver position. But he didn't have Garrett Wilson on his top 5. I think James Williams was Jameis Williams Jameson Williams from Alabama was by far his number one. Of course he's coming off the ACL. But just, you know, I know you're at least in your mock dress you've had Garrett Wilson going high just sort of year. I wanted to get your quickie thoughts on that. And he's not the he likes to Drake London was in his top 5. I don't think he's the biggest fan of Drake London but he had a couple other guys that surprised me. Watson from North Dakota. He's also high on birks. I saw Burks at the combine and I was in his workout. I was not impressed by trailing Burke's. He did not stand out to me. So, yeah, so I'm going to disagree with Chris a little bit, right? So I think that Garrett Wilson, for me, he's a three level threat. So he's quick on short routes. He needs some route running refinement, but I think he can be a good route runner. Which is going to help us intermediate and he's got plenty of speed. So good body control, a lead ability to separate. So when he catches the football, we talk about Jameis and Williams, who is an absolute not only does James Williams have great speed, but he has great burst, which creates that lethal combination, right?.
Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"drake london" Discussed on Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"So we have been talking for about 20 minutes, probably more than about a half an hour about what the Patriots might do sort of their options in the first round. And we have not talked about receiver. I noticed that in your mock draft, you have guys on the clock at patriots picking at 21 when they trade down. You have the chiefs taking Jameson Williams from Alabama. You have Chris olave from Ohio State going to pick after. Then the pick after that, you have Johann dotson from Penn State who can play slot. I think when people see this, they're probably going to go jump off the Tobin. Ahead of time. Look, I know people know from listening to me. I'm not reaching for a wide receiver. I think the Patriots are what I like to see them get better. I just think you can do it later. Get somebody with some upsides, some speed, a speed element, you know, maybe a slot guy later on in the draft. All these drafts are deep and receivers just Belichick asked to decide to pick one once in a while. You know, not like Nikhil Harry, but sort of, you know, what's your thinking about not taking a receiver, trading out for a receiver or even taking one at 21 and letting the chiefs get Jameson Williams, the packers and Aaron Rodgers getting crystal lava and Kyler Murray getting Johann dotson. Yeah, and so I appreciate that that might be relatively inflammatory for fellow pats fans. I hate what the hell are you doing? And you know, I want them to have that talent on the outside too, right? But I just don't think it's in the necessity for them to do that given where they're at right now. I think the one guy I would consider at 21 or they'll consider a 21 is Garrett Wilson if he was to fall. I don't expect him to be there. I think he's the best wide receiver in the draft. And maybe Drake London from USC, but he's more of a bigger guy and we've all seen that script recently. So I think that I don't expect him to go wide receiver. I think that the guys that we talked about if they fall, which has happened, right? They didn't expect when they were 21. They didn't have the will for it to be there. And they made a difference. So I think that there's a chance somebody falls and maybe we're not expecting. I think I don't love picking linebackers in the first round, but I think there's two, maybe three that make the impact. That's why referenced Lloyd and I've talked about dean in the past from Georgia. But I think they'll likely look at D back and if they take a cornerback or they take hill at 21. I think it's because they have some conviction on them. And they could, you know, they could have two or three guys there and say we're going to move back 8 or 9 picks and gambled at one will be there. If they stay and they select the D back at 21, I think patriots fans should have some feel good about that that signals that they have conviction on the player they like them..
Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin
"drake london" Discussed on Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin
"Really good defense and you know. He's a good quarterback just not a great one. In my opinion i always felt though like watching. Derek carr. I'm watching him plan person. George that one of the things that just drove me nuts about derek carr was how frequently he flicks the ball and throws off of his back foot now. I'm not peyton manning breaking down the mechanics of quarterback but it doesn't take that much to see a guy throw off his back foot. It's always something that drove me crazy about derek carr. I'm actually surprised since gruden took over the raiders that he's still the quarterback. I never thought this marriage will work. I agree it's working by the way because they haven't won anything but i'm still surprised at the derek. Carr is the quarterback of the raiders. I agree the big story today. We'll get back to it here in a minute. Is clay helton fired at usc. We're talking about. Some of the candidates will get into some of that on the other side paul on the valley who wants to talk about. Se situation. what's up guys. And i wanna give a shout to stanford for putting it on the trojans like that Last week you guys. We're taking calls and You were saying that s defense were mad and to tell you the truth bro. I don't even think it's the coach. I was watching that game. And they don't even really look that good You know that quarterback you know he he constantly those to that same receiver. I don't even know the cat's name lundin do. Yeah drake london and their defense man. I don't know if. I don't know what the whole hype is about e but you know i'm a ucla fan man. And i took the time to watch that game. And i knew stanford was going to beat them They just don't look that impressive to me. Man sorry i i agree with you. I mean that that's my that was my point earlier today. Perception wise stanford really shouldn't be able to theoretically compete with the type of athlete that usc recruits and more often than not gets based on all these recruiting services and how they rank these recruiting classes. And yet they just. I'm not so sure that they were poorly coached or if they're just not as good as advertised. I'm not sure we're going to out. Let's dive into some more of that on the other side of the phones at eight. Seven seven seven ten. Espn where to be back in three minutes..