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Electric Bookaloo: Daenerys I

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Electric Bookaloo: Daenerys I

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Greg is a psychologist and then in between that will hear from steve. He and i are re watching the first season of the hbo adaptation. If you'd like to send in any feedback or questions for me or you can send it to book at bald move dot com and now our very first look at deniro target with dr janna. Mathews welcome janna. I'm so glad to have you Thank you so much. I'm honored and thrilled to be here absolutely and you. So you're right in between you just finished your class on chaucer right yes i did and do you have anything later today that we can be excited about so we can be really excited about the fact that i Just about ready to start a conference paper. They leave tomorrow for india to give a paper on this medieval mystic. Yeah so it's it's a kind of a day all right. So i have to ask name of medieval mystic. So the name of the medieval mystics. The one you will know is joan of arc. And then i mom contextualising here within a broader legend because there is a medieval mystic a was popular in the third and fourth century. So it's a little early. Almost pre-medieval were in vietnam and because of french colonialism she since been known as the vietnamese joan of arc anytime you liken anybody to joan of arc. I'm going to go all in investigate. Yeah i'm of course if the person's not familiar to european lower than they have to get compared to someone in european right basically it is any female who takes a sword is like into joan of arc and so we have brianna tars. Here clearly fits into that role. With with game of thrones so it's an easy fit and pet only awry right so we are going to talk about chapter. Three denarius tar jerian. I'm gonna give us a nop. Sus of what we're introduced to danny clearly. She's a very young girl and she is shooting yes. She's anticipating her wedding day and all the sudden we're thrown into this very dysfunctional relationship between danny and her older brother cirrus. He's commanding her. He's basically telling her what she has to do to be prepared for her wedding day key. Gropes her. i don't know how else we describe this. He assaults her and she is clearly in pain by it. But we don't see that she's surprised by so this is something that probably happens quite a bit. We see that she's had expected to marry a serious at some point. Because that is the tradition of the tug arians and then we have this scalding hot bath. Seen 'em we see her prepped for the wedding day with the new gown and she is foisted into this public and very ritual setting where she notices that. She's the only woman there so this is basically a this a social event with all men and she. She freaks out she basically decides. I don't want to marry cal drago. We hear all kinds of terrible information about cowdrey go. That's impressive on the one hand. But very scary on the other hand and then of course if a cirrus takes her aside and basically says look you have to do. This is the only way. I'll get my kingdom. Back is if i marry you off and i really don't care what happens to you so i mean at one point he says look. I don't care how he mounts you own care. Who he he could be him and his cows aren't all of his horses and we're introduced to a very key character. But in a very tragic and very powerless way. So we can talk about any elements that i've missed here but we have a couple of ways into this particular very complex character and i'm wondering as a medieval is what about this particular chapter struck. You sell much. And i think that there's really no agent. I'm period in the past where it was a really good time to be a woman but the middle ages was particularly gruesome particularly difficult. And so you know what you see here is danny either. At one time she was actually referred to shuttle or title. And i was appreciate that turn because that is exactly how she is. She is an object that has to be traded between men Interest of a political expediency. So she's part of this arranged marriage which was par for the course for she's described as princess here and know for high ranking women. They were never expected to marry for love like marriage for love actually as a twentieth century invention. So we so. I think that there's a very very long history of marrying for utilitarian purposes but you reminded so much. She's ripped straight from the pages of medieval marriage tax over and over again. Like chaucer has entire sequence in the canterbury tales of seven or eight of stories. Have to deal with women who are put in your arranged marriages and the the horrible thing that happened to them as a result of that but also just the fact that it's so common. It's a typical that satish is just profoundly normal and the scene. That's most striking is when she realized to me anyway. That was most striking to me was when she realizes that she is the only woman in this event. It really does give you the sense that this is her role in. This whole affair is is made very clear to right. Yeah i mean. She's in one sense. Hearing her body is the entertainment. In the space of men's i think the image of the contemporary strip club comes to mind where you're this beautiful woman who is adorned and decorated and cleaned and polished up to look like the object of desire is and paraded before men's there's a sense of a spectacle that's happening and she's definitely being surveyed and she's also there in and just kind of hit us at the metaphor boobs for like a a. You know exotic dancer like is is on display for men and is something that has essentially being there to be sold to the highest bidder. Right and she's being prompted by serious. Put your shoulders back that they have to see. You're a woman and they want to see your boobs and that's that's very much. A part of the even cleansing process before takes particular attention to cleaning and mark highlight the general the regions and the pardon. That near that epicenter feminity. I just read this part. Deniro's looked at them all in wonder then realize with a sudden start of fear that she was the only woman there this sort of prom certa have a second take a different a different view of this not that she was super excited about getting married at thirteen prior to this but now she's sort of feels this upwelling fear and immediately. She starts telling people. I don't i don't want to be his bride that this is not what i want. She has basically zero agency in this arrangement in a cool way that i think that that chapter signals it is so you know. She's talking with the women the slaves who are bathing her. They're gossiping about category and his men and they say will you. He's so rich that even his slaves have callers many mold men and as they put end up putting a caller on her and she has a sort of self reflective moment of like You know and then she gets in there and one of the first thing that she notices is when cao drago slaves come in and all of his men. She notices that. She's that that story that she's been told as just that and that they are actually wearing callers made of brass and so this whole sense of the well and she's wearing a caller caller brass collar but it still represents the fact that she is now she has owned if she whether she knew it or not and now she's owned by someone else One and that's exactly what happened to her. Slave status is sort of the moment of recognition when she realizes that she is that caller that she was wearing a stop ornamented. So okay i need to ask you. I have this this gut reaction to cow drago that he is being consciously fashioned after attila the hun. I'm that is. That is an absolute alignment. I think of what most historians in in critical thinkers thank. It's it's a combination of attila the hun and then also with we. We also have a lot of native american lore and legend answered the horsemen and the topography of their landscape. An the the stairs mony of dress and stuff like is absolutely pulled from a combination of both of us. Anti s right. So correct me. If i'm wrong and i absolutely am sincere about the i. If i get any of this song please do correct me. So attila is we're really in a four hundred. Current era with tila and attila has basically emerged from this nomadic clan but has really almost conquered all of the known world except for constantinople. Yeah he's on yet right. That's that's exactly right. He is up against alexander. Yes and so much so that there are some really key. Roman cities that are that are paying like seven hundred pounds of gold annually to attila. Just like penthouses pain to a cowdrey and basically it's just we're going to pay you annually not to invade us. He's a matic warlord and that happened. It was standard operating procedure in fundraising practices up until the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries. So few even go up to a holy roman empire. The habsburg empire up and down the rhine. This reason why. There's castles every five feet is because the river barons and said this is a right in a foreshadowing of what's happening all over europe but yes that's exactly what's happening so there are other parallels like the huns our master horseman and they've got these bows that are double bound. So that the that. The arrows can penetrate certain kinds of armor. But he's rumored to have innumerable wives. Yeah i think that there is. There's some sort of romanticized notion of attila the hun and as somebody. That is incredibly scary and frightening. He's borderline other and a white walker in the sense that he lives in the margins he and his army are pressing down and coming from all different angles and chain right. Yeah they're encroaching and so he did this. We've got the target audience. Who are incredibly desperate. At this point they would never never ever normally partner with somebody like that then he. It is expedient to partner with barbarian if the barbarian can give you something better to keep your enemies close and so this represents interesting interaction and kind of creative revision or commentary on sort of european. The west's engagement with the east for the first time. And the subversion of this notion that the civil and noble societies are in europe and that these barbarians are just have to be dealt with. I mean clearly. Like drago or till the hon. These these these are people are not just formidable people. These are people that simply destroy the notion of superiority right. Yes yes anything that you've got danny's brother who you read that very graphic passage it or gloss where he was talking about like the violence that he doesn't care happened to her body. We've got the myth in the lore of attila the hun or they know the cow drago and company who are rumored just to beep vicious nasty warlords who just can kill it. Well and have this. They're killing machines. And then that sort of coupled with various who's very openly fantasizing and is totally a blunt about the fact that he is completely okay with the fact that his sister gets gang raped. Her body is drug or can do whatever he wants to. And so there's it's this subtle but very poignant moment where martin's asking us to think in really critical terms about the civilizing powers of the west the narrative that we've talked about we've built up ourselves versus the other mum and other here i think means cow drago but because we're on the face of right after the prologue and rethinking about these other mythical beings who we know very little about who inhabit similar lands insular areas that also invites us to raise early on pretty deep questions about the white walkers right good and so we're seeing something of a parallel needs chapters about what's going on in the land of ice and what's going on the land of fire s so serious in some ways. He's sort of the classic bully in the sense that he's totally insecure right. He has this notion of himself as the king but other people call them a beggar king. He's lost he's basically lost everything. He's lost his wealth. He's lost any sort of political support except for what alirio can provide and the only thing that he even his sword is borrowed at one point in the chapter. He says that he sort of gripping his borrowed sword in what a great parallel to to the chapter. Before we have just a long paragraph of ned stroking this order. And there's a sexualization for you right. But he's cleaning sort and he is clearly he's playing with the sword and he you know he he just can't stop talking about it and it's sort of very small yes yeah is ancestral sword right masculinity versus and. That's exactly right and then of course. The only thing that vizier is actually has control over as his little sister and so he's going to try to squeeze as much value out of her for his own political amos as he can but you just several times in this chapter you see how weak and how how mask lated is just the way that he's described the wedding. My very favorite line from that chapter as when viscera tells. Danny he says he's before he's pushing her into the the the stage where she's going to be confronted with how drago and he says it go and write the history of my rain. Yes and there is key. Can't write his own history. He is completely and totally impotent. He has no ability to do anything himself. The only thing that he can do you. His fate is completely bound up in the marketability of his sister. And it's a little bit. We have a little bit of foreshadowing here too. Because of course we know from from reading forward that this is the beginning of danny story. Right this is not the beginning of his story. Yes get plant some notable introductions in this chapter danny of course as a child bride her violet eyes and her silver hair. The notion of a serious winning dragon here that repeated over and over again the his status is bigger king. Alirio blesses her the words the lord of light and we hear mentioned to the the red priests and their night fires. of course. this isn't going to become a larger theme until the second book right. But we hear right at the beginning pentos and her towers cow. Drago the mention of the usurper. So we saw in the previous chapter with catlin or to the mad king era. So they're sort of the political propaganda from west rosie perspectives and then of course from the target perspective they refer to king robert as the surfer of course polished skulls of the dragons and the king slayer is mentioned radar the unsullied we hear about targeting incest for the first time and blood writers and we of course are introduced to surge or more mont all right so with danny's chapter show differences. I think that the most notable of these are that is just her age. Yes right yeah the. There's a huge difference between thinking about danny as a thirteen year. Old thirteen-year-old girl going through this and adult woman profound tonight. I think that when you start thinking about the influence of the texture shirt looking at danny's script in her narrative seeing her seeing the that this arranged marriage invent the trauma of this happened to her at a young girl helps go a long way in explaining. Some of the. You know the grudges. That she has the mossy that she has built up later on the compassion that she has in so bringing scaling it back five or ten years is is an important omission that i think well i think i think it's a con. I think there's something conscious that's going on here. I think number one. I think this is very important role. Do you want the weight of this rule to be on a child actor. So there's that you've got a lot of other child actors in the show this one particular. Do you might want someone. That's more mature. Secondly i think that it'd be really easy to hate cow drago if you see him being wedded to a thirteen year old girl. I think that for me that would that would have just made me hate him from the start. This is a conscious attempt of the show runner to know it's particular audience. And saying that even though we can displace the show and talks to this historical moment of nebulous past for and contemporary standards of age related. Marriage and pedophilia stuff are. Maybe don't apply. We still have to read and watch this own eyes. And that's just an that. That is a leap that we just as a society in american society can't get over. I mean there's also this the show is especially in that first union of the first few episodes of the season one are very very committed to capturing the male gaze. Oh there's good sex and bad sex and that they're heavily in debt like committed to the idea of Like heterosexual adult soft porn sex. And i think that in order to do that you have to have an adult. Well okay yes and fact even extending that the fact that she's an adult allows this key theme that we find in the book and in the show To play out in different ways so in both the book and the show danny ends up falling in love with him right. Yep so as a book reader. I know that this is a very. This is probably misplaced for at least from my culture. You know where where romance has to proceed awaiting engagement and everything is nice and neat in that way to see danny fall in love with her. Tormentor is a much different experience in the book. Because you kind of get the sense of well she's thirteen. Yeah the fact that any falls in love with her captor or her master or something like that is much more complicated if she's thirteen than she's a little bit older. Yeah not to say that. It's not problematic anyway. Well we like to imagine the fact that woman that she has agency and choice in the show and that even if it is an arranged marriage that there's also sort of some some way out and even in i think that eliminates that possibility when you have a thirteen year old girl playing that part. And so yeah. It's in the book. The show kind of stitches together or thick. Solve a lot of problems by making danny. An adult woman also endows her with the kind of power that immaturity that one would imagine kind of being able to lead an army which is again unless you want to go to the joan of arc trope Which that that role has already been reserved for another character is. It's gonna be hard to carry through. He's a big. He's got a big plan and so he needs the time in the book in order to have her grow from thirteen to adulthood. And where the show. It is not bound in. Doesn't need that kind of time. All right. jim was so fascinating i would love to. If you're up for it. I'd love to have you back on. I absolutely love. This was a joy and a pleasure. Anything we renew. We rarely get the opportunity to talk in a blur. The line between academic speech culture speak. And so this hour has flown by. And i was like this was dang fun like way more fun than any other kind of conversations for this conference paper and i'm like this be boring as hell. I mean that really was sort of my thinking. I think thinking you know. Academics are really liked to have a little bit of fun. And yeah it's like a dream and so i think it's we get to demonstrate and showcase our close reading and maybe eliminate some interesting things but also i mean i learned a lot from listening to you and his history reminder of the i. applicable to everyday life which sometimes we get lost and when we're kind of stuck in our specific historical moment so thank you like always on board. You've got a long long text to get through if there's any interest at all in this thing we're gonna have to talk several times about the happy to help you any way and i'm glad that you're doing it. It's just a whole project taking a break from the book. We'll head up north to see what's going on with lord snow. This is episode three with comic. Steve osborne here with steve osborne longtime friend of mine. Hey steve today. We are covering episode three snow to know. Indeed and steve. There's a lot of sword play and talk about sort play in this episode. Yes that is accurate. All right now this is gonna like an odd is going to seem like an odd segue but we began our freshman year at any high school in nineteen ninety eight nine. I believe eighty no we graduate. Oh i see. I see yes all right assuming that we met before our high school year. We've known each other for about thirty years probably more than thirty years. That is accurate. So i know things about you to other. People may not know and one of the things that i know about you. Is that as a young man. You studied the art of fencing. That is correct. Yes i did. Do some fencing not in the Better call saul sort of way that no not that. I'm willing to admit on this podcast and you weren't so bad defensing season. I mean it was You know it wasn't like i. I did many years of fencing. I was good when i did it and i enjoyed it. I just learned. There wasn't a lot of money in it. And so i went on to tacoma d instead. That's surprising and i running. Did you have different eyes than the rest of us. When you were watching these the sword placings because of your expertise. I'd was definitely especially the training scene at the end At that resonated. I i enjoyed that. Like all the different. Like you're dead moment So you're talking about the first lesson between the beloved cereal ferrall and arya stark. Yes that is that is accurate. I would not have been able to remember those names. So i appreciate you jumping in on absolutely absolutely and it occurs to me now the in episode three. We've met almost every character. That's important for this first season. I think that there's one major character that has yet to be introduced. But yeah i think you've seen all of the faces of the actors at least even if you don't know their name so what i'd like to. I'd like to talk a little bit about the small council. So roberts the king. He's got a small council. And ned shows up in king's landing and he he's handed the king so he's supposed to take charge of the small council but i think that for first time viewers and that would be you. It may not be as obvious. Who's on the small council and what their jobs are right okay. So here's what i'd like to do. I'd like to tell you the titles of these members of the small council. And i want you to pick one for yourself. Oh we're going to see which one best suits st 'bosman all right now. We're gonna leave off hand of the king because everyone wants to be in charge. Of course i understand that. The hand of the king wipes i don't know if that's this is something that we're all considering during the covid. Nineteen era yeah. The hand of the king definitely has a different role in shelter in place. Being the hand can't touch the king's face anymore that's for certain. Okay so master of coin. This is the guy that owns the brothels heater baylor right. Sorry good and a master of whisperers. How does that sound to you. That sounds it. Sounds like a a slightly homo erotic heavy metal band. I would be all in. I would be all in on master of whisperers sure. So this is the the bald guy with a flowing gown. This is yes and master. What master whispers as the chiefs spy. At miyoko you probably. He's just he's the town gossip. That's exactly what he is. He's the town gossip all right. So then there's the master of laws and this is bradley and he gave nettie big hug his actually robert's younger brother. Okay thing that's self. Explanatory master laws the heels. The narc these the narc. That's that's right. And then finally matt grandmaster pice cell was the old guy with the long beard. Who's carrying messages around. Something of a daughter'd at least on the surface but he but he was grand master at one point. So sort of like grandmaster flash he's grandmaster flash. I bet to get that right. Got it right off of all of these different titles. Master of coin whispers law ships or grand maistre. Which do you think would be best suited for you. That's a tough one. Because the we spent a lot of time. Talking about the master of whispers. I do like to talk a lot of mess. But i'm just require you to use your mess in a very strategic way right. Yeah i mean. And i think there's a part of me that already does that because i talk behind a lot of people's back and they and they think i'm on their side so i feel like i'm already like ready for that but man grand grand maistre grand maistre. That sounds awesome. Yeah i don't even care. Even if i am considered a daughter it's like yeah. But he's like that's on your headstone that i think i'm gonna go. I would say that. I am the master of whispers but i aspire to be the grandmaster grandmaster than i mean. That's the best of all worlds. But you know what. I think you're gonna like the show that you're going really liked all right so anything. Strike you about the episode that yeah well this episode this probably of the three is the one that's hooked me the most and you could argue that maybe in terms of like action and incest. That happens the least. So i mean you know considering what normally floats my boat but this had has some really rich dialogue and the theme of what he i guess like transition and inevitability was so was so prevalent and it was just it was. I think it was really well done. And especially with the younger characters You know this is a this is like a turning point for each one of them right. I love the juxtaposition of i know what prince joffrey like. He's got out. She boo boo but his mother's i kind of forcing him to grow up faster on the flipside ned. His daughter a doll. She's growing up. She wanted to go up now. So there's so that was an interesting juxtaposition. You've got got jon snow taking on this. He's he's the king of the bastard. So kay. I'm glad that you mentioned this. Try this on for size. All right so brand doesn't show up much in this episode. But the other these other characters i think are all in transition. And they're all sort of between either social classes or life stages so let's go through. So lord snow i think right there. You've got in the title. Snow is the name you bastards in the north. So that's a lower class name but he's got a title with suggesting that he's in between two social classes torture and santa clearly is between childhood and womanhood. I would think so thirteen but trying to prepare for being the next queen for and then i think are is sort of on this gender border. Larry where she she certainly doesn't not this is sexual at all is simply about gender. She simply doesn't like all of the things that are being forced upon her on the expectations of becoming a lady right so she sees that her older sister lens rights on me like she is obviously upset about her oldest or not being forthcoming during the home slow trial. But i think that you know i had to that. She sees that is sort of like a foreboding tail for her like. I don't want to have to go down and have my future be dictated by trying to please. Not even like i said not even said just like a man versus woman is just the idea of this subservient role that does not appeal to her and so she's just flat out trying to refuse it. Well if you think about it the life of a unmarried or you can kinda be virtuous and be a man of honor and it may kill you but you don't have to play the political games nearly as much you just try to do. What's right and if it costs you your life. It cost you your life. Being a high born woman in this world means that you're constantly playing politics and you're constantly negotiating the blunders and lies of your husband right right so i think you would do well. I you would do well as a high born lady in this world steve pool i think so. I think i conduct myself like a high born lady. I may be a middling lady but You know just the job you want again again with the the aspirational title. Exactly it's all it. All comes together steve. The thing about this episode as i'm psychoanalyzing. You is the there's not even a whiff of magic in this episode fits all about class. It's all about politics. it's about family dynamics. Yeah that's fair. I guess that there is some sort of derision of superstition. Curien kind of conflicts with ben star. But even so. I feel like even though we know that they're monsters beyond the wall. We really have a lot of empathy for tyrians derision of the superstition. Yeah no i agree. So i think that the fact this episode grabs. You suggest to me that you really like the intrigue and you're kind of up for tolerating a little bit of magic here and there. I think that that's probably sums up entire life and theology. Oh it's an hour we. We haven't dipped into your psychology. We've dipped into to your religious upbringing right. Yeah i mean. Like i would go to church and i was always interested in maybe some of the stories but add the miracles magic. You're really interested in parlane. The knitting circles against the pastor to overthrow him. Yeah give me good friday. But i'd rather sleeping on. Easter met just that you might incite good friend. I yeah there's there's a little bit more sword. Play everything else on this episode before we wrap this up. I don't think so. I think that covers it was it was just rich. I liked it a lot. You have a you have a great day. State you to support for this podcast comes from. Cdw and hewlett packard. Enterprise at cdw get modern surveys. Need to be flexible. Scalable and predictable. I predicted say okay. What would i say next. Brevard something about servers security impressive and freaky. Cdw implement secure hewlett packard. Enterprise gen ten servers that improve speed and performance while reducing costs predictable. It orchestration by cdw. People who get it. I predict a web address. Cdw dot com slash hp. I'm in your mind man support for this podcast comes from. Wg you do. 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That's wg you dot edu slash partnerships and now an excerpt of my interview with professor of psychology. Gregory webster is gregory webster. Greg is a professor of psychology university of florida. And he's actually tana class. on game of thrones. I love talking with greg. Because greg has an interesting perspective on these characters and their motives the perspectives that we would expect for someone. That's both intelligent and creative. In addition to that greg you'd have a few interesting fan theories on george martin's world. Yeah so i have. I have my own like really weird hat theory about a character that doesn't really generate much interest in terms of being a dynamic one. I love it already. Yeah but i think you're probably gonna hate this. I think drago think drogue. Oh is a more interesting character than he lets on to be. And i think there's a good chance that will find out eventually that he's not who were led to believe he is really. Yeah so it's so. First of all. Like the first thing that george martin released was this novella which is just the dinares. Chapters of game of thrones Even though he wrote like one or two brand chapters i the first thing he chose to publish on its own was just the dinner as point of view chapters for game turns and they take place on this separate continent in. There's not any interaction really between the nearest chapters and all the other point of view. Chapters in the but dragoons kind of interesting because were told very little about his background. And what we're mostly told is all through generic point of view. We know maris's mean all the point of view actors are little bit unreliable terms of their narratives. I think is somewhat more unreliable than the average one And she's also very young. She's being manipulated. Should definitely being manipulated by leo patas and so basically everything she learns about. Drago is she. She's learning through alirio and or secondhand from a series presumably been talking with illyria was well the leary o.'s. Very very slimy character and not slimy but just in terms of. He's he's definitely deceptive. The only thing we know about him is that he is a. He's a political animal in the sense that he's he's got all these mac nations and he's like the string that pulls the puppets yes. He's a puppet master right. I'm not even entirely convinced that the character that he's portraying himself as is really the quote unquote real him. But so far as we just as cheese monger who's really good trader and merchant who lives in pinto's and he's extremely wealthy. That's about all we know about. But i think there's more to it than the the is wise. He why does he have these schemes where he's trying to support these exa target and trying to get them to west rose so that he can allegedly be master of quantity ends up telling jerian several books later. really make much sense. So he's now revealing his motives for one thing so anyway getting back to to drago. We learn that one of the first encounters we have. Is this this wedding between generis. Andro and i think in the books. I think that they had to do some budget. Cutting for the for the show but in the books i think it takes place at his at dragos nance which is this huge palace that's built like on the grounds are adjacent to and it's kind of like we'll we'll wait. Why would adopt iraqi horse lowered want or need a permanent home when they're all nomadic at site. This seems really really weird. Like why does he have a house there in wise alirio so close with this death. Raqi horse lord. It doesn't really make much sense. And we're we're led to believe that he doesn't. He doesn't really understand much. In terms of the common tongue. Terms of west rosie language but by the end of the book actually ends up kind of speaking at pretty well. I almost wonder if this is a bit of a ruse where he's just kind of pretending not to understand things the other big thing. That's really weird about the wedding. Is all the people that are there there. Are i think scores of really really important people not just from in and around the local area but from all these people from all over esso's and a few people from western coast and then you know really important people and we're led to believe that this is because it's the very beginning of the but we don't know anything that other there because danny's an important person because we're told that danny's princess but what if they're actually there because drogue goes some sort of important person whose identity has been bailed from us. We've been told that he's adopted raqi warlord which he he definitely is but what if he's also something else in addition to that. Are you suggesting dr webster. Yeah the cow. Drago is a secret target area in either that or backfire. I'm not sure which we're told specifically yes another one we're told specifically Later on by alirio. I think what he's talking with Just rewind for a second on this fire tar. Gary ins are if i remembering correctly are line of target that were the descend from bastard. Target areas they end up being normalized and this creates massive civil war. Be one thing that's notable about that. Is that black fire. Line comes from a marriage not marriage but like illegitimate relationship between one of the targeted kings. And house bracken House bracken's symbol is or their sydell is a horse right so and you see the the first thing you see when you go into bays dauth rack. Both on the show in the books are these kind of two towering giant statues which are almost kind of winking at this possibility that okay. We'll maybe this part of house backfire. That's you know didn't go extinct or another kind of branch of it formed and maybe intermarried with some sort of dauth raqi thing and kept to this kind of this kind of horse sigillino alive in a way and he's he's constantly referred to as a horse lord. That's exactly what you would have to someone. Who's the head of As a horse lord. And what's interesting as we're also taught in the opening pages about like about how target areas work and because we're taught about the relationship between in and danny and they're talking about well throughout the centuries target married brother sister in relation relationship. Keep to keep the bloodline pure. Well if if alirio ultimately wants dragons or something else why he marrying off a tar garin to a non targeting to adopt iraqi. Seems kind of random. Well i guess. If i was if i was going to be devil's advocate here. I would say because he doesn't care about danny cheese a female and that really. He wants he's trying to buy political capital for vociferous. Yeah i think that's on the surface. Maybe what's going on. But i think he's also. There's an interesting dynamic. I think between the series and danny drago and alirio. So let's assume let's go out on a limb and we'll just assume that drago is a not a secret target but a secret black fire okay. Let's also make assumption that alirio is also pro black fire okay and so the black fires dream is to basically end the target area in line and it may be restore themselves on the throne of west He's taken all this time to basically welcome in these tar. The last of the target areas allegedly actually kind of his sworn enemy but he's basically kind of welcomed in the last two of them and maybe he knows that fiends dragons maybe he does know about this on some level and so he's he's kind of like well. The only available alternative is to wed this one remaining female target area into this lack fire to keep the the line going and let's say that drago actually knows about his heritage and actually knows he's a black fire but his kind of keeping mum about it he would probably loathe and hate mysterious and that's kind of the relationship they have the entire time is that drago is always making fun of the series. In fact even is kind of gloating about you know making fun of him making a big quote unquote cart king making him a ride behind basically humiliating him before he decides to kill him in what seems to be a fit of rage but as something not so much impulsive but actually seems ceremonial in the end. When we later learn that the backfires chief supporters are this. This group called the golden company. What they do is they have as their symbol this lance where they have all the skulls of the previous commanders dipped in gold and how series die. Yes he could ask so. There's all this weird little symbolism in might just be confirmation bias on my part. But i keep picking up on this idea that. There's something really weird about this. Relationship drove just cannot be just some random horse lor. I will say this greg of all the theories. I've heard it is not more crazy. I think i know what you're and and so. I'm hey i am. I am willing to entertain it So to your mind. This is just plain with this old rivalry between the black fires and the and the target areas. Yeah yeah in fact. The first thing we learn about drago is that varies makes the comparison to him looking exactly like or at least his what he believes. A cocker to look like. That's the first thing we learned about drought. Or maybe i can remember whether it's he who says it. Or whether it's larry says it at someone's like it's on the conqueror come again. That's the first thing we learn about Drug than interesting. we also learned about targe arians backfires. Who don't have the stereotypical silver hair exist out there. Yeah we also learned behavior on in the book. It's only mentioned once but it's mentioned about how there were. There was a ransom are something when drago was a child. There was this Conspiracy where people are trying to kidnap him for large sums of money and incite. Why would you try to. And they were think either western rossi or some sort of strange thing and down it's it's like why would you wanna kidnapper dislodged price on the head of this. Random dauth raqi horse lord who also learned that the whole horse lord thing is hardly ever passed down from father to son i. It's it's basically only you know. Only the strong shall survive in one one call dies. Their children are full grown. They're put to death in their system. The next best warriors just going to exactly exactly. But that's not the case with with a drago because his father was apparently also a rocky horror lower which is really unusual. His name even is mrs getting really tinfoil here. Let me say it. And you tell me if i if i'm going where you're going to go so i'm not. I don't think i'm totally onboard yet. But if there's merit to what you're saying it is odd. That danny names her dragons for two targe aeriens basically and then names the most powerful one for her dead husband who's adopt iraqi yup. I'm pretty convinced that he's got some. Dr gary an and or backfire blood. That's really even the name. Even the name drago is a variant of draco basically kind of indo european language root for dragon. Yeah that sounds nuts that that's their even this is. This is the tin foil. I say it was wasn't so much about drago's name itself but actually his father's name is barb o. And so if we use naming conventions as being meaningful in some way could have been named after barbara bracken who was the woman who was the basically sort of the whatever targeting had the bastards that formed the black fire line so the mother of all backfires tired black far line is barbara chauffeur drug dragos dad's be borrow and all this for symbolism. The racking horse lowered ride horses everywhere. Yes through the best horse riders in the world. But it's also the house schedule of house bracket why why's there all this. You know symbolism just it seems really really interesting to me so one of the problems with this particular theory is that drago comes to not the aid. Drago ends up dying. And he's so. So if if martin is laying all of this ground work for this big reveal then then why does why does drug aleve the narrative so then my question is this. Do you think that mass doors prophecy. That drug a will return will actually come to fruition. I don't think so. I do think that the whole point of drug overdose storyline and the fact that he's you know or at least i believe he's than we're led to believe is that he's necessary is a necessary sacrifice for the dragon hatch. Are we learn later in the books. And i can't remember who says it but someone in berry and passing says it takes. Two kings are two princes to to bertha dragon or something like that something like that. So i think both maybe Him and their son. Yeah worth kind of sacrificed in order to birth the dragons so it's not so much that he is character. Development is futile. It's just that he's one of the you know he's got the supposed target area blood Able to wake drag so his sacrifices necessary for the dragons to come into the story so it's not like he just he means a dead end in terms of his physical journey but It's nothing it also makes me question. Why is the embodiment of the dragons. There's so much skin. Changing this book makes you wonder this part of drogue on seoul are troch is still live on andro gone. Yeah oh that's i don't think anyone really knows for sure about that. But he doesn't seem to have at least drove on. The dragon seems to have a certain affinity towards danny. That's special or at least more special than the other two dragons so well. Gosh i mean it. It's so it's such an interesting thing to entertain and yet that's a lot of work to to do for character that ends up leaving the narrative so early. Yeah yeah well man. That's really fun stuff. And now for this week's bird's eye view the segment where i- monologue for just a little bit too long for this week's bird's eye view. I'd like to talk about dan wedding ceremony but the wedding ceremony that we wish she could have had as modern people with modern is who have been weaned and raised by narratives of love of of this notion of romantic love and this notion of love. Preceding marriage really. That's what we want as modern readers for all of our characters that we care about. In game of thrones and yet they can't have it they can't have it because romantic. Love has not been invented yet. Now let me qualify this. We know that eroticism and the literature of eroticism has been invented but romantic. Love is a little bit different and we may see. The seeds of it planted in an ancient bedouin. Verse called the story of layla and much. None okay here's how the story goes. In brief. this is a boy next door problem mash. None loves the girl next door. Lay the whose father is of immense wealth and of course none is not and so when he goes to ask for layla in marriage. The two levers cannot marry lay the ends up getting married off to an older wealthier. Man and meas- none than earns his name that name means possessed or madman he. He's mad with grief. He's crazy in love with her but he dies of heartbreak. In fact as the story goes they find his corpse. Lean against an unmarked grave of a woman. He has no idea what her name was but he scratched the love poetry the grave in other words. If he can't have his love he will marry himself to a dead woman in call that dead woman. Leyla so yes. Mad with grief. This is a story of unrequited love. Okay so this is a little bit different than eroticism. We don't see their relationship consummated. We just see them in love now. This kind of verse becomes very popular on the wealthy men of baghdad and they recite it and they pay. It's and singers to sing about it. And of course. This culminates at the height of more spain to in the twelfth century. What we see is some italian and french. Singers and poets being influenced by this more ancient bedouin. Love verse and we call these. The troubadours and finally what happens is wealthy. Women want to be entertained by these poets and these poets will put on a show and they will fall down in humiliation and they had a name for this sort of thing this falling in love sort of thing. And they called it courtly love or fine love which we call courtship and this becomes. This becomes a popular pastime mostly for entertainment but as we know entertainment influences culture and it's going to take several centuries before the idea of this falling in love before marriage is popularized but we see the seeds planted in european culture by the impact of this bedouin. Lovers and there are other love poems in the ancient world. That might have influenced this. But i choose the story of layla in mush none because it also had influence on the famous derek and the dominos hit layla. And you'll remember the crooner in air. Clapton's song is someone who's falling on his knees for a woman named layla. He's begging her. please layla. This is a callback to that poem. Lilla mush none. This of course is what we wish for. All of our favorite characters in martin's narrative they could reject or accept their love interest based on their own feelings their own sense of desire. We want them to fall in love. I but no. We're not going to get that in fact almost always when someone. Mary's eleven this story. It's gonna could terribly terribly wrong. That said almost all of these marriages go terribly terribly wrong. But at least we can see. Why danny in particular can't have the sort of marriage that we would like her to have same thing for santa tempting for tyrian. Same thing for loris. Same thing for rob. Same thing for john snow same thing for i mean is there ever do. We ever see an example of a marriage that works out really. Well maybe net catlin the closest that's It's jc penney here. Back with some great gift ideas for everyone on your list. And they're all available now at your local. Jc penney or online. 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CREED 2 - Double Toasted Audio Review

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CREED 2 - Double Toasted Audio Review

"Entertainment design, just for you, then checkout. Customizable, streaming TV from expanding it makes your life simple easy. Awesome. Expended? He gives you, customizable, streaming TV options. Enjoy the most free shows anywhere on any device and even access your streaming apps right on your TV with x one. Go to spin dot com. A one eight hundred Finnity or visit a store today. To learn more restrictions apply. Next movie cre- too. People wonder man, you know that. That first movie I was so good because. It just it revitalize the whole rocky sure rocky series because at the announcement of a creed Movieline. Oh, no this again, do we really have to do this. And what an amazing movie that was as well. Just just brought a freshness to it. When you found out what the talent was which is Michael Jordan when they said he was playing creed. And then when you realize that this was not just a box of movie, we'll talk about this a little one just a box in movie, man. It was a really it was a very human story. Yeah. It really amazed people man, people almost crying got a semester loan ASCA nomination. And he was robbed of the Oscar. She got it. No. He really was man. You really was. I think that's why he made the second one. Loans revenge. We creed to we have donnas donnas creed returning and this time, you know, there's a little a little grudge. He's gotta get settled, you know, boy, never saw a daddy. Because I big as Russian killed him before he could even see them. And what do you know that big as rushing got a son to get my revenge? Except that is not him looking for the revenge at all creek comes off of a having a successful box courageous finish just finished a met match. Just became the heavyweight champion. He's he's at a restaurant Dina having a shake some pancakes. And on TV that big fuck you. He'd he's like, man. I can't even rest right now. People are saying, well, look they saw that movie years ago. Rocky Floyd and people we know you one and all, but if you fight him you a bitch. Yeah. Man. Like, he's talking some shit against you. You have no choice. You put them pancakes away. Right now. We gotta go train. You're gonna let him talk about your dad data like that. Yeah. Yeah. And people told them, they look you might die. But you gotta do. As a big at Russell big of the his dad, I know. Dead. It was a. Nice. Tell you dead as a. Let's go ahead. And look at this trailer cre- to we'll let you know, if it's at least as good as the first one with reviews, I hear it's better. We don't do. We love. Wouldn't exist. Commercial? Really matters to right now. Including me. People that need you. I'm taking a fight. Drago infamously kill Apollo free appeared today to issue of challenge for Donna's pre. Don't do this. I got a choice. Father my hand. Raise. Stage. Things that ain't never been. They worth it. Anymore? History. If you will define this, man, that's your business. Don't pretend this about your father. This is all about. Tribulation. This won't be ended. For you. Because we. Before. After. Learn more about you. So. Wasn't all about meeting. No one. I watched the first creed movie. Loved it so much because you know, this was it was so grounded in more than a boxing film. It was a film about these two guys. You have a creed ESO best Stallone about these two guys who are continuing story, right here and way, this is continuing what might that films special? Senate onto characters who gain each other what they don't have already which is a father and son. Yeah, these two broken people. And that's what made the story. So that's what I said that it's more than a bucks and fill a human fill. Oh, yeah. I mean, plus we see Donald Crete where he starts out, you know, really less than nothing, and then and goes up angry young man, and then becomes a box and becomes a a real man by the end of it like a fully-fledged human being who has a father figure accept its place in the world and has a has a woman who loves him. And he loves no exactly it was really the elements that made the first rocky. So so good and shit went nuts. But rightfully before rocky four when it became fast and furious, rocky flow and turn into a superhero movie. I mean because that's. That's why when I saw this movie was supposed to be a sequel to this film right here. Rocky four that's why I thought like okay now, they're going for the cash grab because rocky four is the opposite of what rocky was because you've got a drag on the movie who's pretty much either sees a comic book villain, and at this point Rockies a superhero. And at that point, I said. That movie's gonna bring this film now as a sequel, and then and then I saw this scene. Tub. What? What started out as hard? Appears to be very serious condition. What an asshole forgot how much of a asshole do was man. Sure. It got lost in translation. No. Dis dis what fuck. Guy. How much addicted do was man. He was a tool of the state. He you know, what I looked at that. That's like this guy's up. Now, the move is not like us out all that. Great. But I've got this. How bad that do was? You know, what I like in the film how he he knocked Apollo so hard. He had that one last part. He had to get this. Now, I'm dead. But. Man. You can't have a movie about little creed. And not have him overlook that shit. Nah. At all. I was like especially now future little create even the one star the trouble. He's the one I've been driving this talk in the most shit. Flood all the way all these years. You know, what that's one of the things that I thought was really. That that was really fun about the movie with Ivan Drago. There's there's a lot of things in here that I can criticize Drago for not probably will live. But. Do like the way he's portrayed in the movie just thirty years of nothing. But just fester, right? Just mad went to shit after this. I gotta get something back. Even when he when he saw rocky rocky looked at him as like, you're still thinking about this. Thirty years old life together, you could have gone to college. He'd been working in a lumber yard all these all because of you because of you combine ever rocky. I even that even. Doing here. For real the hell out of here. But he's also looking around kind of scared. Who else is here? If you're still back. He was he is still kind intimidating to all these years. I still big nice still a big do. Now. We'll tell you angry. Yeah. Man, thirty years. Thirty years. I pulled the wood. Show fall, my wife, she left because you're national. Get out. But. I I will say that. Production was movie still pretty hard because in the end, maybe pun intended, right there. I really didn't mean it. But now that think about is like a when I say hit hard. It is the the boxing scenes in it that done so well in there's a. Because the more Br them were brutal. Were in the the original. There's no way you can you can really tell like, they don't show any boxing scenes and give me clips of any. They don't show trailer. No, they want to say that for the movie, you know. You know, but the boxing scenes here, not only more brutal than they were in the first one, you know, like, you're fighting the son of Ivan Drago, so of course, they're gonna make this a little more violent. But it's more Connectik, man. The camera work is more lively, you know, it's more quick. I had the time to feel like the cameraman just trying to duck out. Swish pan in everywhere because he's bottle the fist sometimes into a person at one point have Drago Cam where you're right there and the fist and coming at you could have been in three D you'd walk out with a black. I know I looked at Martin's nose all bloody. Blood. Don't me here. Damn. Want one? If I can describe the action in any kind of way, there's a moment, and it's not till the full extent of this. But there's a moment in here where feels almost like the Kingsman where the action is moving that fast. I think in the Kingsman in the trash right right with a camera work is that best. It's only brief moments that is moving like that. But where you know, the they have the Strobe ING on in on a in the anti blur. And you see every a punch being delivered. Everything is clear. It's fight scenes. Really good. You know, something I would say at this movie. It it helps to find a balance between creed rocky four before. Yes. I think the balance in net because with this. It keeps the intimate dramatic moments the grounded moments of creed. But. The stakes are higher. So catches the flashing. This of rocky four. You know, when it when it has to only when it has to which is mainly during the fights. But when I'm not fighting the dramatic moments filled like those intimate moments from the first Bill lot of shaky Cam going onto are not shaking, but hand-held, you know, a lot of moments here where you can tell the money's there. But it's not filmed in a really slick stylish camerawork goes you do feel intimate with these characters like you did in the first one. At least I did. I don't know you can pick it up from here if you'd like. Yeah. I mean there there is the those shades of of that from the first one and. Got the same characters in it. I would I really some this movie up in the single sentence. Nothing in this film is as good as creed. As the first creed movie, I will say there are some things that is good bye educate me. But because I honestly as far as those intimate moments. I was like man I was so fresh and felt lived in. And I was really getting a notice characters they felt like real people and hear the writing is just so corny with everything is so sparse. And so they they come across as as movie characters and not not real people like they did before. Okay. And almost except for the draw. Goes everybody's motivations a week. Okay. You know, what you said to educate you, first of all, let me agree with you. I've read some view saying like this is a great successor even better than the first one. I was like the fuck movie that UC. Well, you know, how we talk about reading mind. When you said that. 'cause I didn't see that movie. Now you see the reggae rap. But we say. With the net because. I'll tell you why one for Donna, this is this is called Cree to and Donna's. Creed story is not as deep. It's not deep at all. It's not. Honestly, like the biggest thing this movie needed to do was give us a reason for him to want to take this fight. And the the only thing that can come up with is him saying, I got my pops. I'm like, I'm sorry. I don't know if you saw your first movie, but you'd even know you're know, you're dead was all about you, overcoming his shadow which you did in the last movie. So it's not even an issue now. Yeah. So you go fight this monster, which no boxing coalition when let you fight because all like, a completely different weight classes. I mean you talking about a shadow a shadow over here. Right. Yeah. That's a Bishop match at best. And that's what his dad died in. By the way, your dad has you about fucking around here. They care about your blanket. Never met him. No part of your life shit. Meanwhile, you're looking at you don't do the stupid shit. Crazy not avenged on him. No. You don't even like you. Being. No, you know, this is not. This is not a deep as as a dynasty creed story before because the movie had before he was black rocky. Yeah. You know, he was it was it was telling more of a human story, which was mostly history. And now we have more of a typical Hollywood box and fill in this. And the reason why I here's where I'm gonna come in. This is why things are better. Because the reason why it's not so much his story which were in the first movie, he was pretty much black rocky. The reason why things are not as deep now. Because white rocky has come in and stolen half his movie. And that's the thing man. I I can I cannot get this out of my head when this movie was over well while I was watching it in every since we saw it. This movie should've been about victim Drago. Yes. Had the real story here. Yes. And that's a fault because listen this. I actually think it could have been two ways. Now, I do agree with you about the drug os and for more reasons than you'd think and I'll tell you a little bit. But you're right. It should have been about victim Drago and. The when we when when you when you watch this movie, and you watch it under the name Cree to watch watching another rocky movie. Yeah. This a rocky seat. This is rocky twelve whichever one they bring in so many elements from rocky four and you like don't do that. They bring in. Rocky came in. He like, look don't forget who started this, right? Mike. Boxing. But this is still my series. I'm credited as a screenwriter own. Yeah. 'cause you wrote half this shit for yourself. Did you notice that rocky didn't really have a purpose in his movie they gave him shit to do? It was like Diego the tiger in the second ice age movie. I like rocky in the movie, I mean, that's no Stallone is good. But I was like he's he's not really serving that big of a purpose. I well. I don't think it would need it to be half the movies, but first of all. Suggest alone. He up truly believe that he wrote this hat does move for himself. He he'll get that us phone. Phone. Get it. Right. This this might as well be rocky to write the real the real Burs. Right. Right. Because he's going. It's almost like he's trying to get that Oscar because he's so good. I mean, he really is so good in the movie you love that. Now. The reason why I think it's it's it's better than this movie is because they really did drive home more the humbleness of this character. They really did drive home more about how a love the contrast of what his legislators in what his real life is sure I love that in the first movie. I love it that they'd go more Nissim because they keep showing you all the people going around the rocky statue mimic and rocket jumping up and down on the steps. Meanwhile, he's living at home at a one bedroom apartment. Shitty. One bedroom apartment light don't even work outside wearing that Hobo hat, right? That I write live all alone. Yeah. A. It's sad to see almost. But it's kind of a kind of great to see it. Go full circle. What what makes that work is that? Well, you have all these other athletes who live in past glories? He doesn't do that. And it's his life. Looks compared to what it was. But he's okay with it looks very realistic realistically at all. Well, you know, the only thing that I think is a great. It's a great artful this character here because what you have is a character who had all at one time. Yeah. The looks like the even that had age. Nevertheless, got holes Mazda flat out of him in that head. That's all he got right now in creed. But he he's a guy that we saw his arc. We saw him start off from nothing. By the middle of the series. He had mentioned beautiful wife robots robots man, every everything that he wanted. And now, it's come full circle where you know, it's almost like people just do him. He just thrilled up like even like like like right now, he looks like a soggy version of himself what he used to look like when he was young. And it's something kind of really beautiful about the humbleness of his life. And you say he accepts it. And that's the beauty of it too. Is that he accepts it? He doesn't look back. Now, he goes until stories and his restaurant that he's but he's happy to have his own business. He's happy to live humbly. I think it is kinda ironic that he's a good guy. He's alone. And that's really do come to full terms that this movie that he is alone in that heat. And what I like about his story is that what I think is better is that rocky is scared to lose creed. That's the biggest stake in this movie. But mostly for me is that he was you know, he he has he's content. But he doesn't have anyone doesn't have his son. And he loses creed DASS. What he feels like he's lost everything for got ahead. Everything. Don't think it's a beautiful theme. Okay. So I think that that's better. Okay. The bad thing is that it takes away from the other things that are the may story here, which reduces the other parts of the story to again, the, you know, the cliches of a box of moving. Well, yeah. I mean thing his son it just felt like like the tact a subplot onto him because they had him around. And if they had done more with it rather than just a mention here, and they they would have felt like, oh, this is actual organic part of this movie. No. But but but it's not no, it's not and. Rocky comes in what a beautiful star. But let let the boy it's his name. Oh, he let him have. This says Rockies taken up the whole movie. Did you notice how time pass weird? Yes, crease. Yes. It's like there were gaps of things miss it. Especially with his wife because his wife gets pregnant. She barely has a buck in the movie, and they're like, oh my God the babies come. I know this past though, I know you just got the girl pregnant did you feel like it didn't feel natural everything was like this because he he he he became champion. He went to a diner that night. And he's already being challenged people seem like you ain't gonna fight just off. Don't do that right now. Everything is just this quick his decision. A fight him. It's like you think about it was it was weird. It worked out like like magic and movies like magical time because he's a he's an Dieter in in the one guy the bar's like don't create you're gonna take this. And he's like man, I read taking the rematch with that asshole. Forget no look at this shit in Russia's we live with this story him like, man. We all watching. We ought time and just get this far out. Anyway. Publicize? What? Okay. Yeah. I get that. But it just feels like in context of the rest of the movie everything nothing feels really got into the wait time. But I'll give you that. I'll give you that. I remember the promoter was at the at the match he won. In shutter promoted in Russia, telling them a right? He one time get over there. But he died of that same night. So all happened within the pocket of time that he left the stadium. They gotta diner. They got. They got teleport boxing promoter here. He was in Ukraine move. He went over to Philly to let him know. Like, hey, we want us up this fight in his ass over Ukraine. How does this time work? You don't know unless I'm missing something. You are. Okay. All right. Okay. No, no. But. But the passage of time throughout the movie felt weird. They'll wear it. Also does not help that. That creed himself is just he just a bitch. Here's a bitch. And he's full of angst for no explainable reason. He's a whiny bitch. Now, he's one that can beat my ass. And then that makes me a big bitch. But it doesn't make him. Look any better. I mean, the character that we saw before who. You know, he had he had his self doubts. But he wasn't a bread. Rocky wasn't this movie. And I think the real he was when he first started. That was the point. He started out as a brat and grew to be not a brat, so see him go back to that. It's like I could see I can see him having traits that same person. But I like rocky so much as move. I didn't like the way he's talking to rocket. Oh, man. Are you talking man? Like this man has given up everything to help you out. This man loves you. And you you say some of the most hurtful things to him. Is that what you're trying to say? No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm not going to be here for what's that supposed to mean? I made you gotta do smart thinking, but you wanna talk about smart incisions rock. You want US House all alone who've been taking care me. I've been here for you. Dale true. But you gotta do that to me that was one of those Jerry Springer fights to me. Really? Yeah. Where somebody where people say words, I say something you say something in a mmediately were yelling each other and Cussing out and seeing the worst possible. It's like that's not again people actually talked lead up to it. It's like that flipped on a dime. I don't I I don't know if I saw Jerry Springer fight. I mean, I did like it. Because again, I thought that. It just showed how much this guy loved creed. You know, like, I don't I don't know how how believable it is on creeds part. But on so best rocky Rockies part. I could see the pain of him saying, you know, how come out and say can't say it. Yeah. But he wants to say kill you. And I don't wanna lose you and rocky the best alone is the one that makes that scene, you know, he's the one that's the pain in that scene. And that's the only reason to any degree that Michael Jordan the dialogue works right there. You know, it's a halfway affect of seem to me. I mean, it's funny because that's one of the few scenes I would talk about that is not written the best. But because of one person's performance is very powerful. Okay. I will. Percent agreement on the draw. Goes the Drago goes in his movie shallow, hell, man. They. And you're right. It should have been Ivan. I mean, I'm sorry victim Dragos movie. Yeah. How how would you? Let me ask you. How would you do it would you would you make a whole different moving Collett Drago, and they'd have it lead up like a marvel universe? Type thing. I know you can't do that. But I would have given them much more screen time, Abe, even sixty forty. I mean, if you know if it had to fool, the audience whatever, but but seeing victim Drago come up, and and how him in Ivan eleven maybe Ivan's a an alcoholic or he's just he's just so obsessed with what he had it. What he lost on a big deal about the mother leaving and credit? They got Bridget Brigitte Milton back. I guess her Stallone patch things up. Yeah. So that's kind of cool. Although have had you not seen rocky four. I don't know how much that means to you. You know, it depends on a lot of several places in the movie that really depend on. You haven't seen the other movies for for an impact? But there was just so much more there they painted in just a few broad strokes. Like, they go like, well, you get what's going on. It's like, I get it. But I'd love you to really explore it and make me feel it. No, you're right. Because the whole thing we're talking about withdraw go fester for thirty years. I actually as crazed that's themes. I thought that was that could've been a powerful thing. Yeah. I thought it would have been powerful thing. There's a seem withdraw goal comes in. And he's just the same villain. He was a long time ago. I thought it would have been cool to come in and him saying, you know, a no time has passed, but I'm never been able to live down watt, and maybe rocky even to tell them, and you gotta get past. And he wanted to be free as rock. Yeah. And he just can't do it. Right. And then we lead up to this and it would have made him, but Derek. And then it'd be and the thing about I will tell you this much. While it's it's a disappointment what they do with these characters this guy of fluorine Montano that you say his name Montano. Besides being just terrified because this huge. He's twenty eight years old. Yeah. He could be on game of thrones. Yeah. You you figure exactly. He would beat the they got on. You know, what he would do? He will take that other giants crush, right? You know? You fear. Look, I about you fear for creed these effective physically. So they got that down of one thing. The rocky series was able to do they were able to get you. Great villains. This carries on the tradition of the rocky series by getting a great villain right here. To the point that you really do think that. You ready to call Bs on the movie read called Bush moving because creed fight him. He should in no way, you'll beat us do, but and by the way, I hear that the guys also nice the nice guy real life. Yeah. I'm sure he is he's like a heat and made a point. I'm looking at this guy that big if he wasn't nice somebody would have shot he could afford. Yeah. He can afford to smile. They got to worry about the happiest on why? Because nobody was about a make you unhappy. By punishment data. But no, he's he's a he's a good guy. Man. He says try to smile all the time even they call him big nasty, but even his article right here on page, six dot com. He says, I don't smile once in the movie night all smile, they just say scout through the whole thing. He's like this and Ivan is yeah. Got got that Ukrainian Doug Mel. And it's like man, you know, you didn't try to flesh these characters out at all. You started something creed that should have been applied to all these characters. They're not simple billons anymore would not dealing with old rocky territory dealing with make an east. We're coming in really nerdy cinematic, which it is the revision is version of what we've seen Iraqi is sort of how unforgiving came in. And examine the the the western genre. Right reach should've started a revisionist thing of this rocky series and box of movies where we're not just a box, and Phil what going in looking at the types in these box failed especially in this series. Let's take a cartoon as villain and flesh him out to where he's actually human being. Fucking blew it, man. I know that's kept thinking too because I thought all right. Well, maybe just starting out rough. Well, when we get to the Drago, then we'll really get to see these as three dimensional villains or people not even villains. But just people would have different point of view. So you what happens? It man is we have. We have a traditional boxing movie. Thank not, I won't even say to a fault because I do think you go in and you just one you just want annotate. I think this is gonna give it to you. Well, there's not a whole lot of boxing. There's a lot of period house like he's still a boxer. Can remember I still think that the moments? Michael, Tom Thomas? Confusing. I'm looking at you. Martin jordan. Michael Jordan is good. He still good still good act to the writing for might not be as strong, but he still good upsets Vesta Lomas. Thanks to there are things to enjoy. The other thing is that I do think that the box imagine. When you get to them are entertaining. I think this seems like we just saw right there with Felicia Rashad moments where she briefed nails it. She comes in. She nails her part. I thought she was fantastic. I thought the editing was a little choppy. 'cause it was like point. She said something just cut away. What? Nashi sound too much like my mom. I can't shut up. She's good in the scenes that she has people goodness movie dialogue that works at times when we do get into some genuine drama boxing scenes credible in the movie, I think things are good or at least they're entertaining. But they're nothing compared to the scenes in creed in the I think so you remember that was one of the big standouts was Ryan Kugler where he was shoot those those those matches where the camera that continuous shot that would go all around and not stop. It was it was artistry. And these were just like that good Stephen j cable juniors the guy that directed this. And I thought it wasn't better a worse than what they did create. It was different. And he had a different Connecticut shooting style for those scenes, and that's why enjoyed it the box things. I mean they worked. You know? I mean, we both sit like well that that first match was just it was such a mismatch that I couldn't even enjoy even from the from the level of the photography. I was like, and this is almost a cartoon like it's set up. It's almost like one of those setup fights where he certainly wouldn't take a dive. But the fix was in. But the, but the last one that was where the film really perked up for me. Which is sad. It's the last scene of the movie, but that lasts fights. I thought okay now, this is working. Yeah. I mean it, but I think there's things to enjoy. But when you. Think that but it's still a box and movie that does what box movies do. I mean, you have a lot of predictable moments the losses the montages. You can you know, montages coming from ten seen as a way even rocky a montage. Yeah. Yeah. This is this is where it's like what Iraqi Ford do. How many montages? All right. We can do that. We got the even Martin even Monday he has jump. He knew montage montage. Strap in nine he was right right around the corner. It's so point is that you could've still had this basic boxing movie four creed himself, if you hit gone in examined, the Drago is more Invicta Drago, the active flowing monta. Now, he's actually he he's he shows promise as an act of there was a moment where he got to be nice talking Russians. I don't know. He might have you might be living the worst livery lines. But he's but he was Yellen. Many he looked he was the only one he was only one to show emotion between him and his father one time. And it really didn't make sense if you expanded on what he was talking about right there. Yeah. How how how they both been abandoned by people that was supposed to care about them. And really his dad is the reason why they're conditioning are now. Explored that more that would have been cool, but they didn't. I do like. That they tried to give other people more time in the movie, even though I don't think it worked all that. Well, Tessa Thompson. Of course, she's you know, she's the the wife now. So she's getting more time they have a family at this point. I like to gave them more time all the few times they had this kind of lousy plot of her Sanger, why just those she could have some cool seeing scenes of her saying intro to his boxing matches. It's look it's rocky four rocky four you have James Brown. Do a music video this one you have her come out and do a music video. Yeah. You know, that you go exactly anything. She ain't no James Brown. She get electrocuted. There you go. Rocky four hair comes out. Feels good bad. But nah, man. Was it was just her to like do a music video. I'm being a little rough on this. Because the first one is so good, and they fell into the trappings of what I thought they would for for the sequel, and that kind of kind of disappoints me a little bit. But I'm not gonna lie that was not entertained by the film. I think it works as it does work as a creed. Sequel just not as good as the first one. I mean, it feels if Bill some parts of story is not as silly as the first rocky four. So I do it Meyer them for bringing in some being a sequel to rocky four, and as I say kind of balancing out that could've done a better job with it. But at least they took something that was just a fantasy and made it feel even though it's not as fleshed out if felt grounded in his world on Martin for that. And as I said, it's. I'm not gonna say the director, the director did a good job with this. It's just the script is not as strong as the first one in rocky keep on reiver's Avesta loan wrote half descrip-, I don't know who wrote the other half. But I would hope that it's the best long world strongest parts of this especially for himself. Because you can tell it's. I'd be lying said it was not a disappointment. But not one that makes me upset at the film and one still entertained by give it a get a very low matinee. Yeah. I mean on the positive side. Hey, it's better than the rocky four. But unfortunately, did carry over too many things from it. And it is ultimately this is the movie that I was afraid the first I was going to be and it's suffers from being the predecessor of something that was truly great and a surprise. And it's it's this fall short and just about every way. And and so much of it that I was like I can get over. You know, what these you can't expect everything to be as great? But it really bothered me. Just how how how actually straight up bad the dialogue was most of the time. And you spend so much time with the creeds. The husband and wife and just the things they say back and forth to each other is just so basic, and I just kept thinking man, I loved him so much in that first move. They had so much. They had to offer origin store. Yeah. I know. I don't end that that is the thing. Which is why you, you know, for the second movie, you either bring in a new crisis or you pivot to the villain or somebody else. And it also feels like it's given people busy work even with them. When it spent so much time with them. There's a subplot with the with the baby. Whereas like, okay that kind of went nowhere and wasn't even necessary. Yeah. When it was it was a necessary. But I think it would have been a question that would have been asked anyway, and people would wanna see. Plus, that's a cute has baby, man. That's cute baby stuff. He was doing. I was like. Yeah. Movie wise. I see you doing this a better this. That's not the way you react to that cannot tell you why I thought that that worked. Okay. There's a condition with this baby in the move. But I think it really did show that okay? You look if you on do it for rocky being on do for your wife do put his bay because this baby really needs. Right. Right. So it's like, hey, why are you still fighting? Honestly, my biggest issue at this was that. I couldn't get past. Why he took that fight in the first place because I was like us prods motherfucker. Yeah. That's that wasn't doing it. One hundred reasons not to do it. And when he finally gives a reason why he was doing. I was like not doesn't add up that actually makes a stupid, and I hate to even use that word with this movie. It does have that entertainment value. Don't hate on it. I recognize that. It's just it's it's not good mostly by what it's compared to. So. In in in the for the sake of mercy. I will also give it a low matinee until that sting though. Throat. Do throwback to another. Regular out those things. Rectified Mars Mars mandated. They did these after credit scenes fucked moving. I'm glad. Piano stinger. So mad name Matt that low Matt low men what we right there with this is dry. It's just that movie. Just so corny Mosa. Yeah. Yeah. Even even where the music comes in at times. It was to talking and they were actual violins planet backgrounds. 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276: DRAGO. Rebelling Against Communist Poland, to Patriotic Navy SEAL

Jocko Podcast

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276: DRAGO. Rebelling Against Communist Poland, to Patriotic Navy SEAL

"This is jack. Podcast number two seventy six with echo. Charles and me jaakko willink. Good evening echo. Good evening archival. Publications of the institute of national remembrance. Poland court name court of the pomeranian military district. Be judge lieutenant colonel. Joseph so bisky court file number redacted prosecutor's office file number redacted security service file number redacted case examination date nineteen eighty-one twelve fourteen case conclusion date. Nine thousand nine hundred to twelve twenty eight case description file in the criminal case against redacted name suspected of printing and distributing leaflets containing false information. That is crime based on article. Forty eight section. Three of the decree of december twelfth nineteen eighty-one on martial law detained temporary on february eleventh nineteen eighty two based on the decision of the military prosecutor's office february twelfth nineteen eighty-two the accused acting together and in consultation with redacted name produce brochures for distribution which could cause civil disturbances and which contained false information on activity of authorities of the people's republic of poland in the period of martial law and calling upon civilians to oppose the authorities and to organize an illegal underground orgnization. That is crime based on article. Forty eight section. Three of the decree of december twelfth nineteen eighty-one on martial law based on the ruling of the court of the pomeranian military district redacted. Name is sentenced to three years of imprisonment and three years of loss of civil rights. A charge to be paid on behalf of the state treasury in the amount of forty two hundred p. l. n. reimbursement of one third of the cost of court proceedings. So that is a document from a book. The book is called camp posey in its written by an individual called noval who is a member of the polish grom special forces and the document is from the case against a man whose name is redacted in the document. His name is thomas zahren. Thomas was born in raised in communist poland and he made a stand against the authoritarian communist regime and was sent to prison his actions sent to prison for speaking out against the evils of communism and he ended up in prison communist prison. And i need not talk about the condition of communist prisons. 'cause we've discussed them on this podcast before but it goes saying goes without saying that those prisons are not for the faint of heart but luckily thomas zahran possessed an incredibly strong will and he survived prison and he made it out of prison and eventually he made it out of poland and eventually he made it to the united states where he eventually joined the navy and became a seal. This is also where thomas ron took on a new name. Nickname drago and this is where i was lucky enough to serve along side him on and off the battlefield and this is where we became brothers and it is an honor to have him here tonight to share his story with us drago. Welcome thank you is also to be here on your podcast. Follow it for a long time and eventually thank you pulling the fighting me and i'm honored to be here. Yes somebody on. Some something reached out and said well. Why don't you have drug along. And it was like anytime. Drago wants to come on. No no factor. Of course so. This is like one of the craziest stories. Suarez backstories go not just for joining the seal but joined the military gen would mean. It's pretty straightforward. What happens the most american kids right. Oh i wanna be a soldier. They joined the army. The navy the air force the marine corps. That's what they do man your story about as crazy as it gets back stores. I guess it is bad for my maybe not crazy but this different and just even from well learn just by golly but when i came to america came with a bag of clothes and ten phoenix that german was like less than ten cents in my pocket so everything. I have everything i owned. Oh it to america to you. American people so i promised myself that i will be the best citizen. America can have do everything to be as good as i can be so a beginnings went very hard but but like now. There's nothing unusual. You can don't speak english. You didn't count here with expectations that they had given me a job and make tons of money in the how i just wanted to work. I just wanted to leave free man and that was given to me so that's promise i tried to. I still keep it in my heart. That yes i i'm successful. i've succeeded. There is so much more to do for america for our country. And the that's with i. That was my goal. Be the best american citizen. I might can have so. Let's let's take it back a little bit before you get over here with less than ten cents pocket. so you're born in poland. is that right. You're born of oil and gas. i was born. you're born in poland. What did your parents do. My father was communist. he was He was a professor he was a teacher then became Became a party member. The polish not communism or socialism. They're the same kentucky by the differences later but so my father was a part in my own but my mother was Was a teacher. She was at elementary school teacher. So when i was born in my father was already starting. His career with political polish communist party now is that. Is that something that you know. If you're if you're living in poland and you see the communist party on the rise your dad looks around and says hey you know what i kinda gotta kinda gotta go with the flow and get with this party. If i'm going to advance my career in life. I think that's where the know. He came from very poor family too so the party. They gave it to him. Say look if you just close your eyes on some moral aspect of socialism and just follow that our doctrine and you're going to be successful and he found for it he went. He became very successful eventually. Ended up being the war. So in the reimagined. The top communist government as a one of the directors of Ministry of art and cultural so Th-they was successful. Yeah but it sounds like your mom wasn't quite as on board with looking away from some of those immoral aspects of communism. Neither my mom. Neither my father's mom. I remember that that was big rift now entire family as a little kid. Maybe six seven years old visiting my grandmother. And i mean my father was martyred my grandmother and she always was telling me. Communists are evil. The devils socialis is evil socialism as evil system. And i always get the image of socialist or communist as the guy with the big tail with a big breathing fire. Remember i've been asked my grandmother. They breathe a fire and my the wars and they more people quietly under undecideds and the dad just really bad. there's evil at so in. My mind was always communism socialism as evil system. It is And i remember. My father tried to protest. Mommy look i'm not evil. I'm not really I'm i'm your stein. Seattle if you saw soul to socialism communism if you did that you paddle these mortars quietly happen in poland so you are evil and i don't want to consider to be my son that she was very adamant about it so for me. I always remember before going to bed. We were my grandmother. Teach me how to pray so else praying. I'm always close the prayer god. please counterpart the take all the company's communist socialist out of poland. So just kind of grew with it and there's different and the with my mom and my father. I still remember those. I think it was aged was but we wanted to. My mother want go to church on sunday. And i still remember my father. Stunning front of the door. Say we cannot go. Because i'm going to lose my job. We cannot go to. I'm going to lose my job. We have not going to church there that the communism and charity and social. He's mature not compatible. And we just going that so. My grandmother was visiting at the same time so my mother left. They couldn't stop had. My grandmother passed me the window to my mom. Down wasn't the first floor and we still went to the church. By the that was pretty much constant raved eventually that that marriage fell apart. My father went with the communists and socialists I stay with my mom. My brother my anglesey says stay with mom so that source was but a difficult for us because at that time in poland is changed now by the timing pollen eve. Your parents divorced you as a child will stigmatized so you would a divorcee. There's actually the parents would say hey. Don't go play with this guy because he's just got divorced. He's just divorcee with because there was a derogatory name in polish that we were count so actually kinda tough and we are. Because i end up. Actually being some of these guys get along they would not my friends but they never bothered me again so they worked so what. You're going to school every day. Just like normal is that what's happening in poland in the late seventies or the seven nine hundred sixty eight remember years old so how was born fifteen years after the second world war. So this is. I was born with a less this time. This dance that we have between we our beginning. September eleven and a today. There's still so fresh in our minds right. September eleven years. So i was born in fifteen years after the second world war so as we still playing the ruins the broken houses there were. Some people are still finding bombs unexploded bombs and explosives kind of Interesting so you going to school. Is that normal are they. State run schools. Is there communist. Are you being taught. Communism in school so yes absolutely. I have actually kept. I found from my from my notebook from school. Elementary school late classes seven great about communism socialism you doctrinaire that from the very beginning in socialism communism and that things are very funny there because the government the socialist government they feel like they have total control and the they have to but otherwise people will just people don't subscribe to slavery so social infant is not that good systems and they don't want it so could they remember they force us in fifth great i was in fifth grade elementary school and we had to learn russian house not i was never the best to then and then they trump to the russian on me as for the pug. We'd like to lend the shit. I don't want to learn and kind of open up in my core class. I say look i'm polish. I don't want to go into lend russian-language. I i don't want to let it. I don't feel like an english or other learned german. Oh my god. I had no idea what's going to happen. But next thing i was out the principal's office My mother she was teacher in different schools so they they called the police. The secret police came in they picked my mom. They drove to the principal. What i was waiting skids shitless and They they say so what happened so that teacher explained that i am antisocial leased separately socialism and i am also objecting to russian language indoctrinate russian through nation. So my mom is all in tears. She all shaking dragged my brother into it right. My sister had no idea what's going on. So we see that that or there and and they were very clear. I still remember that. If it happens again this will go to orphanage that government will make them good citizens if you cannot do that. So this is your last warning and So i had to buy. It never changed my attitude. I was always outspoken. By the i remember that fear that my mom least for nothing rest of our lives anthony and the rest of the time was growing up in that state could take The keys away from home so that that's the interesting part of it is that like Today i have a eleven years old twelve years old daughter. Eleven years old son. I'm looking over them. Like hook at donald. Let them go anywhere where i can see them. I can play but to be always able to go and assist. Something happens or didn't happen. Poland paul remember. I was seven eighty eight years old driving across the tunnel thinking bus crossing the street. It's going to somewhere else and there's no big deal. All the there were just ten miles away from school when we have to commute. We've just commute. There was like nobile. My mom would just bought me a ticket. So every time i got into the bass if i could because there were so crowded just after we pull yourself and sometimes the close salvini. You're sticking out of the budget is going to school So that was kind of Yeah we had the no because we felt we did felt safe by mama feel safe about it and maybe this because there was no internet at the time so some of the crime that happened it was not very transparent was not very Readily formation about it was not readily available. So people didn't know something bad happened. So i remember going to kindergarten and so i was. I was five and a half years salt so we had to go from From our home after my younger brother so he was three and a half and by hand. We are getting the house shoes and other hand at the house shoes. What's shoes sleep at us because in kindergarten. You cannot wear those shoes that you went outside. Give a sleeper so it has to be clean apple to think so we'll get the sleepers now enhance going to around the school and under street across the actually. A friend of mine got killed on the street by motorcycle so but there was no big deal so you when you go across the street and you look you look right and i think his dad and he just walked just worked with kindergarten by ourselves being six and a half six five years so today i think i going to jail for letting things that happened to my kids by the time of just that was pretty common. That's real so you're you're you get this experience in fifth grade where you basically say you're you don't wanna learn russian. They crack down on your mom. Your brother your sister. Yes did you at any point we you so were you so you you saw what happened between your mom and your dad. You've been told your whole life that communism was evil. So did you just kinda suppress that a little bit to to keep from getting taken away from your mom. A i did but maybe not intentionally rarely at the time. I was not political like annoyed. That i have to the language that my grandmother tells me those people are really good in the good things in pollen. They the your passport. And so i don't have to learn the language so that was really not so much politic- out but the paid was already politic. Other state was very. They were very cautious with citizens they wanted to control and take control almost every aspect of social life. That's what he's as and so that didn't really. The political pilot came later. When i started leading me about the more the political more that is the oppression of socialism and a dent. What has became more aware of. What's going on then reading about that people disappearing from the street and like never heard from them again The ed become a little bit more than i became more aware and So then in late seventies in poland had so much so enough of these lies. Because what happened. Is we empty shelves. There was nothing to eat. I and you can buy food. You can buy clothes. You cannot buy furniture but all you hear how great is in poland in social system. If you look at america people are sleeping on the street and they had no access to information this. Show this tans or they show shag swift pull people sometimes or stay or they showed the worst thing about so that that was just people knew that this is why they got so for that that eventually dominated what that socialist press. People didn't believe you. They say that this disc brown people today. Now they're lying even brown a this how they had it had to explode and that sue was cumulating fans. The people lost faith in the government. They lost their faith. In the truth. The truth th the lies that are being told they they stop paying attention to it so at the and demanded what they say. People didn't believe that inaba weight and then exploding the solidarity trade union movement were that people just raised up and say enough is enough. We had of socialism and communism. When you're when you're growing up you talked about fifth grade. You're in eighth grade year in ninth grade. You're in tenth grade. And i know we're gonna end up talking about this. At some point you learn how to fight like not just what you learn how to streep fight and you learn how to fight on. Some love did you. What did you train train. Taekwondo detain boxing. What did you train started with boxing. Just a regular boxing. And i remember you know being just my mom growing up my younger brother and a sister so sometimes i had to fight for my brother to craven and so the box. Boxing hair was important for me. To kind of like could defy what are already knew. Just maybe this technical skills now and it was great. I mean really liked it but then again so my brother beat up at school. I think because we're divorcees. Just so i was remember. I was sick and I say i need to go to school. Then i just my staff. I went to school. The big guy those cute such as not came out and knock him out so bad that there's this show with his mom later in the evening in my apartment. That's like he's like see this. He'll sound did that to my son. He can look. He's i. I look at the guy from behind. Coordinators like holy shit guy is like baked swan And so my mom just coming in and look at me. I'm like half of is. This guy is huge and he's crying so it's like the so bad guy did your son. Yeah yeah you see what he did to him. So if you're sound that big let him happened to that. I think he does. I just want you guys leave so the wizard. A boxing gym was boxy and program or program. Yes actually there was the police club. I didn't know about the time but the clubs like this were on on usually by the police. So so yeah. I bought the guardia. So so we. I belong to this the when i nailed. This guy broke my hand. I didn't know it so that put me. And that's all of my friends. Went on their first. Boxing matches and are just stay to stay home and then we just move to different towns so but there was my style with boxing and cut involving the eventually with take one. And let's go. Because my attitude is different and the tacoma they practicing the pollen at the time there was two different type of taekwondo. I so we did. That was like no covering or anything. You just go and look it out so we went to the police championship. And i didn't know any better. Put this thing on me as i have that fight with that but okay such as qb knocking these guys out just progressing so i gather every time i finished my this. Is you have minus points for the being brutal. Brutal can do that. So so i mean it was like finally and the final fight Final five price. I know the guy out. And that's the so the guy's laying there the guys do. The judge counts to me. You being disqualified from the program. I mean that's quite disqualify. But he's the winner so then the nas gate. This is win at a san. So i hear the guy says laid out so it's like okay well but anyway i guess there was. My fi- was not very sports. Like because i got the wessels and bullying after i a winless take my second place else and then kind of and then. The prison came in and actually helped me a lot in prison. I'm glad that i was able to other political prisoners as friend of mine. Who actually i've met again when i visited pollen the decentrally so i didn't have anything to do. Have they. just sit and just just doty. i'm so let's let's go train so we're train. thank you say. Look what you did to me. How late survived the beatings that i got from the guards and and all that stuff so so let before we get to be imprisoned. So now it's the late seventies now at some point you must. You made a decision that you're not you're not going to comply with communism you're gonna you're gonna fight against it. Yes the inch iphone too but the the first thing. Actually when it's my start changing my when when it start making me aware of what's going on in poland was. I started listening to radio. Free europe and the voice of america and bbc these station. You could go to prison for listening to it. So i remember my mom i in the piney on my gut i can hear you get more pillows on your over your head get more those big a blanket so then neighbors don't hear that she was in fear who she could. She could go to prison for that. So so i was listening to. Bbc's how old are you had that thing. i was twelve. Thirteen fourteen so That's what i was getting. All of that is getting more interested in what's going on. This is what. I land that you know that that the key the social is actually quietly killing people who are inconvenient to them or those people disappear like we don't know what this guy is the. He was very outspoken about socialism and he just disappeared so so i was learning about it. That was learning you also about the mortars decks judicial more Coming committed the by judges in poland who subscribed socialist idology. So that's what it started changing in me. Say this is wrong. This is wrong. What's what's going on in poland. How did those murders take place. Usually you just tell you what how could happen because Nobody knows but tell. Actually what happened me eventually so i was working from the gm. We're working out and just do some fights and can't police say. Hey grab you by the hands pulling the just go. That's and that's it and then dragged me. What are we going. I said well where we go. Why was made that. He wanted to you anything like fuck so i wanted to thinking okay So if we get out of the sky. I'm going to kick this guy out i'm going to this. I'm they're gonna shoot me. They're gonna kill me like you. He's going to go down quietly and better just drove around the town. Just throw me off in the other part of the town that had to work back home for few miles. So that's just like and letting what they can do. Yes if they want yes yes. How old are you in. That kind of thing starts happening happening when that happened after i was released from prison. That'll before that this would ask you this. How this people disappear. They don't like you outspoken. You cannot either comply or we just destroy your your family. That's that's how social works and So expediency that. How does up here people. After i got out of prison but before that there was another one i just knew that people just data and there were no longer or this. They committed suicide or the. He followed the stairs. Some it was just something that was waking up in me that this socialist system is oppressive. And you can leave as a free man when in oppression like this. I remember actually at that. Time was also down on me. That different countries have different. Systems are free allen about america remembering the warsaw force. Every time i was in war. So i was like the go-to us embassy because they have those beautiful cars. Those bake cities that's images. I can beat the fans. I can see that. Whoa look at this car. And then i was like it that the images that have those glass things on the fans will can read about america why pollen cannot be like that. You know i. This is so. I remember every chance i had so this is when when i look at american fly something like taking my hat like this is so free. This is this. Is this the freedom. And i always from then on always cared so whenever something happening pollen those we need to change. We need to be like america. So that's where the star my. My views maturing. So how old were you when you started to actually do something about it that you you know what you eventually get arrested for at. What point and was it wasn't other kids. Was there some kind of leadership network of people that were leading solidarity joined the solidarity movement. How what did that look like to win it. Crystallized i remember the first strikes happen People were hungry. We want food and freedom so they they organized strikes. I while s came in big german. He was that venture reporting became the leader of data at the trade union movement in poland. So my mom got involved. And i got involved and i got involved with my friends. They're on the different level. My mom was involved and school and This is how the win so then we stopped. there's really not much to do at the time because the solidarity was doing everything there were there was the fairest trade union. The union there was the first movement in eastern bloc country that was independent from socialist regime from socialist and communist party so that was I was just like i couldn't read enough. What was being published. What happened in one thousand nine when the when the communism and socialist came to poland after the second world war on the stockings violets That's who salerni the atrocities about the mortars about that th the the freedom that we didn't know that we have not three sometimes that but when we learned about how other candidates how is the This being done in america. So that's would. I start actually growing when i nineteen so that was right before the before the marshall late nineteen seventies especially with jaw. Pope came to poland and he like rise people. obviously look. You can leave on your knees. You need to raise. No basically he's a message say directly but he's message was like this or was taken this way and people raised up and gave the social his ass out the day. I mean the communists had seen this kind of thing happen in other eastern bloc country countries. I mean the hungry happened so they kind of they follow this so so they they were nervous about that so they ended up declaring martial law. They they do martial law to try and yes. They suppress the solidarity. Yes they lost control. They knew and there is no way to putting this gin you back. I think something that happened with threat here. You can't you can't put his bag a violence so they realized that they cannot go back to what it used to be. People won't trust them. People don't trust them. They know they're liar. They know that they were everybody. Knew they were liars and thieves too so they The site eventually have. We're losing control and continues. They will hang us that these people hate us for what we hear. What the socialism don to these people they will hate they will prosecute us so impose martial and i remember. I was on the phone with a friend of mine. He was in austria and midnight. Click as we're talking quiet. Say that that no No connection so then people are still coming. Hey they just shut down the. Tv's the radios. There's no communication on. The telephone is in work. They shut down the communication entire pollen. And i think fifteen after midnight they start rolling in so i was at the council headquarters at the time at midnight when they came in so they just brought it order they round up everybody who was down the hall as on the On the police station and then they only hold those people who who hold prominent leadership positions so dead ni- they arrested found different estimates from twenty five thousand people on the low side to sixty five thousand people arrested that night. There were not criminal arrests. They were that's basically explain to as those people are not arrested in sydney jail. But the and we in turn for their safety because we want them to be safe and also they were potentially dangerous to the state so that would not really dangerous there. They're not like they did something they were potentially dangerous to the states so we didn't jail who just have a good living conditions we provide. The food is so thank you now. Anomalous what i say and it is so sounds so weird but that was the fact that that was the way we perceive that reality. That was quiet normal orwellian though marshall othing gel sixty thousand people one night. Who wins something. This is why i get eventually get we in a couple of my friends started building and say we cannot just see them in the watch. It we are we gonna do is sign. They shut down all the communications. We're going to create our own so we're gonna create our own network and we start printing and then just walk into the those naive the way we did that but we didn't know that dominate better. So just bring the what happened. We bring the names of the Of people arrested so the families know that this will just disappear yet. They just seeing prison now eventually. So we subbed distributing that in in my city where i was at the time growing up. And that's how it started so we function for awhile. Caught then of course was not very difficult for them because they were prepared for that. And and that's how. I ended up in in prison. Eventually they started publishing lists of some of the some of the people the entire basically put them in prisons. So so you get you get arrested. They come to your house. They find you at school. They find practice pretty much of the street. That was working at the point where we're printing it to pick up more of the our newspaper that we printed out in the sun as i walked in a log on the door the code we life and those open these three guys run up from that stairs was on the stairway five guys jump out of the room and just put their had like ten guys in my head. It was like police. Standard was the from every zyppah. Got hang kathryn holloway. The getting prison so in in jail and here goes another story day. This is something that i had no idea. I didn't know that i can have a lawyer. You could but they just ignore that so it'll be besides marlow so there was a bit different so i got to jail that circe so did you. Did you know you did it. No so you know got to be the app. And that's that's the stick by my thing. And no i didn't. I don't know about these papers that you find in your house because they went to my house late of this. They searched my house. My mom would like to have told me that. Should they demolished my house. My apartment my home. I mean i live with my mom that the mortgage had apartment thousands dookie and so i just found on the street three really matter because i got three as Of the but the funny things they the me from from the prison to the court. So i took my boots and so you writing booth that a cup comes out. This guy kicks so he can run away he gonna kick with the bad feeder dookie with about faith so they bid me and i went to look i was beat up and say like we don't basically the jazz say we look at it didn't happen. So what's the what's the prison conditions present for me the time i didn't know any better at prison. I thought it'd be bad but again you're always hungry right. You have no rights. You can't see. There's another thing. Because when i went up there so you can't you can't lay down you. Cannot you just seat on the stools all day. Long and just at the table cost the table and from the ultimate you just wait there when the cow comes in you go to. You'll go to lay down on the bed similar to be in iraq from still scared them new to this environment. I'm sitting by hanging to sit here all the garden. Day along with what happens now just in. Just keep the shit out of me outside. So i'm coming back to the now. I'm beat up. How my eyes so see. If i don't think they're gonna beat me up again now. They know the reason to bomb. Can't see it so in other again so it's like be three times. Finally i guess they say like fucking ain't going to seat and could be laid out so just let me that so so proud but then there's one of those criminal gas. 'cause will keep coming criminals for that tavern. I'm tougher than him. So i think i can earn my way too fucking. I don't want to see the day. The table just understood. Nobody's or anything so he'll lay down bad and he's by then across and There was none of my bed because there was like four beds about fifteen of us that so sleep on the frost. That's far to kick me out of this so So healy now on the bed as study. Just you can hear the screaming. The beating out of this. He goes back blogging. Blue bag he to the table. That he's like i had enough turns out he wasn't quite as tough as you. Well this is about toughness. He wasn't a perpetual the beating. So so i don. I put up with sitting on the stool in front at the table than than deal with these guys. So eventually they and actually how so naive. I had no idea they don't me. Hey those those this all prisoners like now if we can make the hauling this war to this other salcombe shugart and some other food because these guys give a lot of stuff so fucking. I'd do it with crime under the balanced and so made the whole. Maybe like this big but then go find because of course this like there's no tools of nothing. Wait what will you try to break the hall in the wall. Today's ing what using using the rugged the the the from the stool that you seat okay. The party took this tool apart. Just start you get through. A was not really that hard actually. There was maybe the character in the beginning but the bunch of get to the country. When so i got somebody pulling by the lakes and get good cakes and stuff so So here it is then bagging when there's not the principal with the war warden so you have a lot of problems with you. You know you gotta go you do it again. We're gonna put you isolation and the tiger gate pseudo sal and the within the sal was that kate just like in the zoo. Just put you that. So i say okay. Whatever i'm going to be punching the walls and the holes in the wall okay because it was so stupid. I didn't know anybody so then every every day for like fifteen minutes allowed to go outside and walk there was like a room. Maybe half size of this with high walls with this guys working on the top above you and the funny thing is that there was made of these concrete posts with a slit insight. We've seen them in iraq. In this a reinforced concrete. Slide was slight in between the post. One of the top of another Silencer take one. I remember i was just put demonstration. I was breaking those in half. So i though that i heard the voice of the guy who was in the case with me to communicate with him. Let me take a look. I didn't mean to break. That's shit i'll just go. equate worked. Just kick that shit saito. Just make you move this some of this murder from in between those cracks between these slabs this bookings fall off and just as halting sloughs about. I'm just fall down and see a lot. Lobbying tiger case the passengers sitting there and that was the one time there was the final time but the second the added time they put them in the prison with With the broken windows it was winter time and they give me no blankets. I was just laying on those woods for a week was was okay. I was freezing. There was nothing to do with. Kill me and you you know like i'm looking watching some of the. Tv's here about the prison in the united states house. Like a fucking at that time. How how trade. My alive paulin for prison here. Because i will be fed. I have medical attention to the tv. I will have. G may be possible event. And how can you leave better. I mean what can you do you want from life. Has everything provided to you. You know you don't have to fight for anything. So that's that's how how. So how long. How long did you end up staying in prison. There was three years prison sentence and release as close to year and a half or after a year and a half when paul second was coming to poland again so they tried to get jess okay. We started releasing political prisoners on amnesty. And the i not releasing and then some the prison start shrinking because know after the case was done my case where i was sentenced to a got my sentence. They shoot us to russia border. We're in prison. Calif rubio's roof We can through the window. We can see the river and consideration territory next next to it so like unnerving because at that time there was a reality of invasion to have. I mean we were afraid that the russians will come in to take to put some order because they're was the communism and socialism was falling apart so they knew that rochelle come in. We're going to get killed so we're thinking like where we're going to get killed anyway. If they come in this that we need to plans actually know how the bridge the bridge. The bridge like we know as a sales now how to get through the wall how to get this which is making the getting the equipment on says the maybe kill samba. Maybe they don't wanna kill everybody but we cannot just sit here in prison and just wait for to be slaughtered so there was that that that thinking at the time in prison so we So yeah so we were in this That's actually a couple of other. Things came to my mind too. I think about it so they beat us. I remember i had some issues with Okay so we went on the hunger strike so wearing you kind of go strike. We won the status of political prisoners. They will sound had of an socialism. I love new but in social in there are no political prisoners. There are just for something else sitting stealing the milk from the from in front in front of somebody's door or insulting the neighbor or Just be mean to somebody so they put you for something else so. They put prisoners not in socialism. We don't have that everybody until the marshmallow who was up for political activities was like that much for something else for criminal they generate. So yeah there was something that When they so they that's the rubio showed that the kind of the political prisoners there from the the general criminal population so pretty much gleich and they So we decided to go on the hanger strike and the way they broke. Our strike was In they say that is a low that after two weeks. You don't eat we'll forcefully feed you so were they like edgar vacuum pipe or so. Say god damn. I ain't gonna do my stomach and so they put this thing in your throat and they just put it the whatever the issue they gave you that and i remember. I didn't know that bad. So these guys so finds us today. Finally they overpower me hanging me to the chair. But when they tried to put the spy again. I just broke the fucking. So they provide the they've that different share this time. I couldn't break out of it and dax folsom lake alan. How to deal with it. So yeah. I'm like no big deal and just stay. Put it my my foot in what they broke. It is typical social is way but it's nikki so they got to the older guys. Say look see this big pipe. And i had to show with down your throat in your stomach again and and put it in one. Just take it to yourself just drink. It shouldn't go to your cell so you like Eh painful surgeries. Like okay as soon as you just want savers like wow you just broken hanging strategist aid on your own. So now we got to transport you to another prison again hip a chance to most likely to go to these prison sound. He will just handcuffed. Putin pressboard drove drove away someone so the eventual using a few of us left and the car came from the trach that this is pointless the socialist socialism will never meet they hold political prisoners and You just waste your health into stop it so we eventually stop that and i totally forgot about it until i went to pollen this guy. He's hey do you remember the hanger stri here. I have the calendar here. This this this into a slight shitty. I remember now but on the hundred hunger strike was three weeks we. It'd be before the calculator stop because going. Nowhere Yeah gave me that calendar. Don't have it here but the interesting actually because the those things do that we did in prison. I can't sing watershed. I'm thinking at all but that was singing. Like motherfucking presents as their those political songs from polish passed from polish history. They were very patriotic songs. Which socialist early hated so We in those at eight o'clock in the in the evening. I believe it's eight o'clock in the evening. We just opened the windows in the whole side and entire prison population from even discriminates new joining. But they got be. Shut down for equality. There was there was that they scored them but now with us so We kept sinking was so loud that nearby town they could hear and actually the priest was coming in praying from prison so the guards hated because they're not while sell they beat up people. Have they throw them the windows up as soon as they leave their windows. Get up again. People are singing on the south of design so much they could do actually the to send them to you. Because there were so bad i guess for them they. I didn't have any family at the time. Just my mom so they send a letter to my mom complaining saying to come here and do something you'll sign is not listening and i actually showing to my wife. Rachel say look at this here. Because i knew that i had that and then i just by accident i found it so i have this document saying that saint letter from prison. So just come on. How because i'm listening to socially got was there any guards or any government officials that were like sympathetic at all or do they just. They had to toe the party. Line the head to toe the line. There were some of the guys that they were not so vicious so They will they they just they listen to sometimes like there was when we were able to smuggle the camera into the prison that so that some of the gaps knew about it and That there are some peaches floating. I think i've seen some of the pictures from the prison at the time and some of them like who you know on the christmas time so we had this nose say like well. Can you send us some how we have this alcohol the screen so see well. Let's while just yeah so we just rope down from the floor. She She she she. Just be bottle of this skin clinging alcohol. Just put it out. You can get better that right remember prison. There was actually was really badly culture with this. So you so you end up getting released. When pope comes back again they do this gesture. They're gonna let you out of prison and then are you going once you're out of prison. What what are you doing Trying to find a job. Fast into do something. I mean my mom killed. She's in the hot time hard time to. I cannot be seeing from her money so trying to find a job And you can't because everything is controlled government owns. I don't think they own the job. So if i remember after struggling for a while i still continue my training. So this is what i describe earlier after the training coming out from sometimes in the evening the wherever train that was police pooling they put me on the cadre mirant threatened before while and just told me on the street so this is like you know what i can continue like this. This is something that i eventually end up dead and and they did. Actually we find out that Later i found out around the same time that one of the my fellow prisoners Was suicide that then. Another one. As like i'm going to wait maybe lanka and then that might images of america came in. Yeah so this is what i went and i need to go get some kale printing. There are went to american embassy. I'll say this is what's happening. I need help and hell. Yes i sure we need this this this and within the three weeks i had I think within three weeks. The visa out of poland to germany to the united states on the funny thing is i also had to because i was still in the age that conscription age so they had to go and sign up. I'm going to go to join polish military. Am i'm not. I'm not being so by the military. Or anything i remember. I walked into this office. And say i'm leaving paul and need to sign this here. So this fucking sergeant is look at say you look this wrong with people. I this should serve poland under this polish fucking this polish sambhal polish eagle dude. Ain't police eagle then mother fucker you and the russians body stalled the crown from that ego is a body. The eagle doesn't have a crown scat. So that's your ego but it's not mine. I'm the survey of this motherfucker right there and the hero the scientists. I just left i remember. Ask leaving the building. Then my still screaming and yelling helped how bad we are the battles before so i came to to to germany fast. Centered that united states read for us for refugees. Elan about america. We had the people coming teaching america and eventually remember like so. Where would you have any preferences when you come to america. I remember always called in poland. So-called at mushy. We couldn't by the good clothes so my mom the newspapers and our sometimes in our jackets. So just just. Don't tell people there anybody because then be better on me but just had those newspapers inside who keep you warm and the days. That would actually the did the three. So i was always called in poland and then the So when they asked me. I was like well everywhere would is not call i mean even hard as paraphrase but just not cody began. So what do you think about memphis you anything about like they know expressly was from peace. And you okay okay. So we're looking for the place in memphis for you. And that's what i came in. I said what. I land united states with a ten phoenix in my pocket. And bag of clothes so you. How long has it been since you left poll. How long were you in germany. For i was in germany and maybe three months all right. Are they teaching you in english there. No there was no time for this. Mostly like the legal staff. Would you need to do how you go about getting the english classes how you leave. What does the what the laws are. What how how to be good a member of society and productive. So there's that we try to learn our own. I just remember both myself dictionary. And to data lost somewhere on the way to in the in the flight and There was a really good because finally we came like a normal walled. Everything we'll clean. Everything was bride. Everything was nice. People were nice and like that's that's the war. I think that's what america is going to be. So i was really excited just to go to come to america at the time. What year is it is. Nineteen eighty four beginning. I left nineteen ninety-three december night ninety three and this is like beginning nineteen four so you you get on a plane. Are you by yourself or is there other people with you. Some other people with me. those Those group of people are refugees from the communist socialist state. And by the way we're going to different locations so some of them were didn't even know though once we get on this big jumbo jet by them know who these people were web. They went so. I don't know eventually land in new york and i remember. I just wanted to see this statue of about. Here's like so great and Is anyone escorting. You is anyone. Oh yeah yeah. Yeah i mean there was like come on our own when we came those part of the people waiting for us. Everything was provided. That's they help us do. Our destination memphis is what. I get my first apartment to help get the parliament. My first job. And i was so excited i remember i never knew what the conditions right so i was watching the movies from america in poland when i was young and i see those boxing the windows get the milk inside and the pollen the so called. You just put outside the window your food. Your mail slaps us. This is so cool so smart in a wind. Don't we have this box behind the win. The with more stuff. And that's actually. There's not the boxes for food is just air conditioning. So they that keeps you. How school and and healthy. And but i remember what so when i moved my first apartment. Acklin contain myself through my mom sake account. My mom say mom. I'm leaving the apartment and with climate ization with conditioning. What they'd condition. Usa it blows called a demand if you want see. Oh my god how much you pay for it. Can you afford these things i say. Oh yeah it comes with apartments so yeah there was so that the that that change was so drastic. i remember going to the store for stein. Grocery store in poland is a very simple. Just grab whatever was left on the shower and just ran with it before. Somebody grabbed from you here. You see the cereal i. I didn't know what the city was like. What's this city of this. I don't know what it is. But i take one but then look at these boxes. They're also looking cool. So what's this one. Maybe this one fifty bucks then. It was so the abundance of everything something that i could not get used to it for long time. I always end up by trying to buy. Maybe like five six dollars groceries in that thirty forty dollars and damage spent the money again because my first paycheck was. I think it was forty dollars a week. So remember of course people. I wouldn't be able to make without americans helping me so they remember this forty dollars usually by the end of the week because i said to pay for an apartment that was candidate for parliament electricity and everything Maybe like out of money at the end of it. So i just have to wait for my paycheck. Is the paycheck. Marsupial motor food. Were bringing me food too. So again i would not survive americans helping me. Who is who are. The americans are helping you. Is it a religious group. Sent grace look church memphis and these people are christians and they how they have so many people and i think i i feel obligated. I need to do something to maybe reciprocated now kind of late but the are awesome people. And there's still deadly still actively support people coming to america. Help them settle down. I would never succeed if they're help. i was very lucky The funny thing stood. That didn't speak english so they both met dictionary. And so. I'm just trying to live on as as much as i came. I remember one the one of the families older capital all couple peak me up and say okay. We're going to be here today. Show you this main reason this. So i we drive actually visit. Then they gave me the dictionary so Because they were helping us. It was just that i think was like this native power bus so the the dictionary also show it. I'm using tried to let. Let's see this black guy walking on the street. Some say this man right so this is looking say it fiction that says this is an sassy hate. This isn't like tim was crashed. The cat oh my god no no to. Why do you say. Would you lend it award as the snow you gave me so i have the diction that here today with this lady. Still scratch that war and say black man. You know i didn't know any better. I mean for me. I grew up in poland. There was no no Just only white people there. So i didn't know about how the black person i've seen. I was like sixteen seventeen years old. I said this is so freaking cool. I never seen guy with. Its got of the scheme so me and my brothers were like circling around. This guy is fucking weirdos but he will shift. He's really black you know. I didn't know it but there was never any sinister failings curiosity. And i want to be friends with them you know. Let's invite these guys through our club and actually we did that. They show up. So we're giving polish lay in something else and we can't france you know. There was the first black people. I've seen so you. Do you go to any classes to learn to speak at the time i was working already. So for the the providers short. I think it was a one month class of english where we attend. Was it hard to hard to learn. It will scott for me As we can hear it now thirty hours later but yes that's it gives us some basics. Maybe but i remember pronunciation could gather it was killing me a thank you the. There's no age warding police. So thank you for me to say it was like i couldn't. I couldn't just could not say that was spitting. I was just bet. Probably friend of my comes in say. Hey just fucking just say thank you pedic week say f instead of. They won't even hear the difference if you say it fast. So should i. Did i remember some meeting you somewhere where this this. I think there's a priest of somebody who brought the cookies. So i grabbed the cookie and has that title struggle with dry. Say this guy from thank thank you. So liz fuck you got quiet. That's right this is something wrong with this guy like loop behind like finding one of the older gentleman comes that what he is trying to say is he was at me and say thank you say thank you. You know i work hard. That's so i'm better now. But i'm still. That's my wife was not allow to say in public so sometimes i can't take my phone. Your post. don't ever say loud in front of anybody. Just say say my my my my bag. It's challenging for you to say purse pulls can so. I have my little list of words. I'm not allowed to say on my wife. So so i'm thinking that so what was the first actual job that you got once. You're on the ground. You're memphis you. Gotta you got an apartment. It has air conditioning. What's the first job was in the deal was the church. I was basically Mopping charity the toilets and that was something to get me through. Get me familiarized with With with american car with a bit english Behind my belt. And so basically. I was working part time as a janitor and this is where i started. Actually picking up english more i remember that bucket mopping wild hands and then they have a little cartoon cartoon in my back pocket so enjoys going to the store and joe is going to the store. Joe is going to the store. It means that he's going to go and buy some groceries obviously allowing points so it's translating it and the more cartoons speaking more and more english and eventually i think they decide that i'm good enough to venture spine ragged different job so the need to get the job with okeke for the first time in these and i was oakley keesey ford. Yes okay that sounded like a polish word about got gotta relapse. We come back to later. Especially when i had to translate back so in iraq but so i got the job up there and my job was to pick up the phone and they already knew that this guy who doesn't speak english but he knows the numbers so they say okay five six six seven eight nine ten so i'll just write it down said. Thank you quick. Run upstairs and i picked apart. There was five five six seven eight and brought it up so the cars from different dealerships. Who are needed to. Par was coming into the door and picky picky up. And i was just the guy who just take the phone call number to the parts. I was working really hard. But god them those numbers you just kept mixing up so those guys coming up in two hours later here wagner just got the wrong path. There's there's not depart we want to mechanics says that you just gave him a wrong path so they come to like. Hey no that we are you working so hard we see that. We don't want to fire you but you know you just need to get better but How do you know anything about cats. European cars maybe not in idea but yeah 'cause there's an opening another three but they are looking for Mechanics for cyb portion audi. Maybe i don't know if you would want to go the try that too you know. That's absolutely is. I know everything about the cost. How many people when you were in poland. How many people did you actually know. That actually owned their own car. I personally know anybody who owns the car. I know some people who knew some people who now okay. So you're my father. Because he was coma he he was allowed to go. So those expertise that i had. I know somebody who knew somebody with the car. So i went through the interview so broke. I hadn't even. I didn't know what i was saying. But i remember that the that so they brought they needed mechanic for porsche audi saab and so. They broke the foreman from the poor forest he looked. Give me. and i know there's like blah blah blah and then we have a gate kevin's been speak english. So the mckinney. He talked to me for a while to say my best. But he's right now and then the sad mechanic comes again. This big guy. Motorcycle gangster works inside like looks at at taking my slave killing me. As i started my career i become became. Good this guy. I owe him so much he has. He was so he was running without the motorcycle. Gangs and he. I remember he was very proud. Guy and and more. But i was able to actually talk him into look jimbo carton. Jim bola jimbo. I can't speak english. I need to have these manuals for saab. If you can read it aloud to me record that can listen at home. And i can match the wars with recording. I thought he will kill me for timeshare motherfucker reading shit. I don't even know how to read while. But then then i talk him into it and he says so. We're sitting in his kitchen. He'll kick reading that manuals and there was. I know those out for him. I could see that could tell scott for him but he did it for me so we've become really good friends and often you know. He came back up the car. So hey g buddy working. He's walking around here either. So he's like okay. If somebody comes in just kicked me. I'm going to sleep and say okay. He's sleeping great guy. Actually this is the first time that was exposed to america. We american way of eating too because So i remember see into come over here. We'll have steaks. And i've just just steaks and say okay so i show up and the biggest i think to stakes no three states with his girlfriend so as big as three stakes are fun for a month. So who is cammy here said just three of us the stakes. Yeah you can have one. The one is for you here going to be whatever you want. I was like then. Entire state is yeah. Wasn't over that dude. How be slicing it and slicing. Just that thing would last month in pollen. And i just didn't know that you can just take like that. Just by the slab of meat you cook it in the heated fuck stakes stakes now. So so there was exposed. The st you the state you didn't you just pay license like this because in poland those who hadn't mentioned that i just come back to it. The social is what they do. Pollen is that whilst become a resume to hangar. Because i our going hungry to school quite often because my mom you cannot buy food for more than two to three or four days especially brad or something so if my mom didn't get up early navarine the three o'clock three thirty four o'clock in the morning in line which is sometimes around the block to buy love of bread. I i can't no breakfast. So she was in aligarh rifle coupla hours but then they sold out bread before she could get it. I was going to school but my remedy for eight was just find out. There was richer keats from the specially those parties party member sense. They have always food. They're good food. So just be demand. I took the flange and i i there launch and i said like you want to eat lunch. You two sandwiches next time. So i there's so much supply that actually i was because i was like the poodle guys that i knew of their. And you bring the salvage this guy you bring this guy in the to me. And if they didn't it would just do lunch. And we just eight launch. They usually they brought the lunch. So how how long you working at the what was it. The saab dealer for quite a few years. And i think it was the point that the war the then i became you a citizen to so for me was i. It is still it. The bees for me people think you make lucille crane. How i feel about it well until you. How is the mother can say it as an american freeman. That's the biggest accomplishment. That's not the seal team's i'm very proud of off the tried and i'm very proud where i did in the teams but it is not my biggest accomplishment. I always look at the somebody can flag. And i'm america. I'm not polish american. I am not something. I'm oregon. That is no hyphen in front of this american. I am an american. And i'm proud and so. Yeah that's so you mentioned You mentioned the first gulf war but then you what point. Because i know you've got into parachuting some point. How did that happen. Yeah well sounds at the time out. A mcgowan who made the jump. She wanted to go into right. It'll while sausage. Fargo tried to the bounce those before the war before anything so i say well just cut it robs unless it. Hey can i make a parachute jump shooter. coming over. there was in memphis. So i came and say how can i mean to punish generally get to see. Three classes will be tandem. Jump say tandem. Jump okay so i sit for the class. You know that he explaining what to expect what to look. When in jump. I was hooked so i can i can. It was pretty expensive but being single at the time. So yeah you can do it again one more time so i can. I jump by myself. And i know that either way but you have to go to the classes so tell me about it. So the here's how did show you go to class and was like like on the weekend then. Monday com one job may be to germs tuesday wednesday. That wasn't two weeks. You get this enough. just seven. Jazz goes af accelerate the free time. So you made enough jobs than you can graduate the jump on your own. I say fuck in. What can we start this. The actually this thursday. I say friday i say. Okay so friday chemo they all. The classes will make their three jobs saturday. The next four jobs and was i think saturday evening was jumping on my own. So thank us cooked. So i was actually this funding. Because in my if he's we jumped from very high altitude usually twelve thousand feet sometimes. Don't fifteen sixteen thousand feet. So so i had a cumulated love free fall at the time so i decided to go myself for the f. f. jam master course become jumba that i'll be teaching skydiving and i did and actually i did extremely well. I remember when he tells oklahoma. The time the only issue i had again with my language. Because it's you have to do class. If you have to do class you had to be very thorough if you miss something. The instructors usually those the uspa commission people ver- experienced guide eyeballs. They picabo jimmy's in the brief and they did that errors in the al. Would you didn't believe what you say. The wrong you talk to the wrong way. So we had an agreement we partner apple with one of the guys and we had agreement you know. Invite you ask you the question who answered correctly. So i don't have to because if you ask correctly read teach you because these people are watching. Don't catch your you're wrong answer. Then they will go and do it to me in the air. So we're okay so we're with the document and you know there is a point in the skydiving to and teach eventually say like so. There is a have they do that. You have to make your decision you callaway. The malfunctioning parachute became function and open the reserve. Or you ride the ground. Two thousand feet by two thousand fifty. And i have a good parachute and you need to make the decision to get away as new jumper and and an open your reserve. I if you didn't do it by the time was like you should be writing it to the ground so go ahead and look at this guy. This commission is listening there. Okay now tell me what is your dick. This guy looks like what he told me about your day. I can't tell so. I'm getting amanda motherfucker. Walk with me what you have dig and he says what do you mean. What do you mean as the two thousand. Four hundred dig. I don't have two thousand foot. How day to this guy. Look at that and these holidays delaying the table do so i was so focused that you know two thousand foot. How deck that kind of shane. Same so so he he say nothing about two thousand foot have dick but eventually i go. Yeah but i graduated from this course even gala this dick and Yeah so. I was skydiving by this time. But it seems like coming from poland coming from not having food from being imprisoned from all these things that are going on. It seems like when you get to america. You've just got this this like drive just to live and make things happen and you're going to free fall and you get done in four days and then i'm going to become a jump master and you're working as hard as you can. It's like you have this open freeway in front of you can be whatever you are able to be you. I can say whatever you want to be. Because i want to be as large sixty dollars all ain't going to be asking with but you can be whatever you are able to be. There is nothing to stop you like different countries. Who are what your background. Who is your mom. Did you you communist or socialist party so we can help you but if you cannot be in this position you cannot go to college even if you don't have if you are not part of the social youth organization so so for me. Yeah those that the entire world open. I could be whatever i was able to be. There is nothing stopping me so even more even more makes me that. Stick to my what. I want to be the best citizens to make this concert. The best can be and contribute to it. So that's where the personal war came out. And i just became a citizen at the time. So as mac okay. I can build the jobs for these people. I'm not reaching the half. I don't have resources. But i can fight for them so this is my country. I'm going to go and sign up. I had no idea how do i and positive he's asking those that have cut. Sometimes you obsessing. I wound up there. I feel that i send it out. I brag my shit. I was leaving. Other skydivers was at the time. So this was greyhounds. What wherever you going to say. I'm going to war. Just send out my papers and this is. This is the first gulf war. Go right so it's one thousand nine hundred ninety one one. Yes the first gulf war kicks off. Yes you wanna go fight. I don't go down to the post office. Outfielder wrap the. What's that thing. Called the selective service should out. Shut your bags anytime now so well. Nothing happens the guys like drag on. I don't think that's the right way to do you. You want to go to war manders. You're going up there. So yeah yeah i mean you have to have this. I came here with nothing and everything i have. I ought to america to this country. I need to do something. And the best way i can do is fight for my country so yeah i'm waiting on the ventilator sorta about this circuit service doesn't apply to your to all so i was already thirty one at the time going thirty two and sassy i find my. I will find my way into that war so suppose. Hey why don't you go. Through recruiting recruiting fees as true. I went to the army in poland. Artemis everything this out in the. Are you talking about army air forces for me. That was everything was me so good one. Say okay this is me. I would like to join terrier outlined to go to war. Okay what do you want to do by fight. No jobs of something in kiosks. I say no another really. But i will doubt do whatever you tell me to do and i just want to go to war our when the war is over. I'll go back to normal life but i th i think just for the duration of the war. I would like to join the military that say okay worldwide. Let me see you're looking that they'll tell me what to bring all the staff they did all the or the war. Say okay so we put you as infantry. I think it was infantryman and style and i say absolutely thank you so much. I'm ready to go any time. And dan as see us show up in drops on. They were doing demonstration. Jump leap frogs in peace. So we stopped talking about it that we john few times together say tasks such a cool guys and So yeah as i joined the army. Why don't you tried the navy. Just go ask recruiters about seals as like it was the seals. Yeah but the navy. This guy's those i. I'm jumping the seals. So i'll just say i win the next door. I'm applying for army and the on my paper war. But some france to ask about the navy and the i'm just asking about the navy who those friends at us that kind of of seals. Oh yeah yeah you know. You can't be a seal as like but into good this paperwork from these guys we put in the navy and you can then then then. We'll just pushing the nave. You'll be a seal then. I say okay. So the next door's surveys. I'm going there. So can i have it. They were pissed they did not like it but trying to get my pay show up there. They look through my papers and they're like well. You know what we can guarantee you the sealed there was defer program in the times and we cannot guarantee to because you are to all that you aren't even to qualify for the ceo's but if you sign the paper here. John got to bootcamp. They'll make you cr. That's not no doubt about it. So i say as a okay but they them but now before you become a sale into a job get the job in the navy. At the time there was no seal rating. You remember that there was. You got to bootcam- you get aden to a school at the job in the navy and dan you got to if you like you you decide to go to seal training so i said what are the know much. Would i want to do parachuting. Something with halloween parachute. Raigad sounds good to me. Nigeria the is doug me in this field as a five four years later. Okay so yeah absolutely made me soon and make me a dating ago too so they say okay but if you want to go to that school to pr school You will have to leave this week. You have to leave on their thursday with putin Delayed entry program. And i think you'll be swollen. Thursday will leave on friday. I think those should not chacao my given. Hey waiting to get married right now. Because i'm going to the navy. I'm i'm leaving to the navy. I'm leaving this this weekend. So we to the judge we stand. We got married very quick and back. Then i show up on that got the sworn in and out enough to boot camp and didn't become the. There's no intention to make me a didn't care. I just wanted to join hotel. I want to contribute to the effort. I am american. I want to fight for my country so whether it being the parasite whatever. I just made the best out of it by the says though police shows up i see why not. I won't try it and i did. I pass all the tests so that was the in boot camp and do that. They do that day where they go. Okay if you want to try for seals you need to go take the test right. Yeah that is a day that actually that different jobs. Those people are coming terry about their jobs so that a seals your de motivator show and he talked about. Just sit in this chair the just just hey i want to go so and now you're are you thirty two years old. At this point. I just went out to two years old. What the hell kind of physical conditioning did you do throughout your life to get to get there in good enough shape. Because they didn't even let guys go to buds when they're twenty seven twenty eight or something. It'd be that ballade condition. Did you work where you work. And how this whole time not really. I didn't know how i didn't know that. The physical demands of the teams at the time. Just like what about just in life like in like when you were when you were working at k boxing. Taekwondo yeah. That's that's that was basically what you're a mutant freaking. Just got my solanki. That i was able to. The test is really not that difficult to pass the still still something about prepare. Yeah so so so just so people know what you're talking about you say the test isn't that hard to pass the bait. The seal tests that we used to get to get a chance to go to seal. Training was like i think it was you had to do it some miniscule. It's like fifty push-ups sit-ups ups in two minutes whole ups ten pull ups eleven pull ups and then a mile and a half ron in eleven thirty and a mile and a five hundred yard. Swim in something like that. My slur was swim. Swim oil so but i took it. I got it. I passed it so i'm so happy. Like oh yeah. This is so cool and fucking kidding stone. A kidney stone. Yeah that's where your frigging old man. The kidney stone. I remember the dallas so breaking painful never had wasn't i was never be that so hard. It was so painful like this by the. That was so painful. That i remember. They gave me that medicine. I think it was demoralized in work with some stronger because i just i'm about to go crazy k that peso's so hot so they gave me a morphine just went away but that amount as funny thing because the first time i had no idea what was i was laying in the book in the boot camp. And there's the spink. I just fell off the bat and so the time the lights on and within three minutes ahead this pool of sweat right under my nose or dripping. I'm on my force. This medical comes into. Hey are you okay as like park. Do i look cave to you. Came over the past it but not not the worst thing that was thinking while you're going through this medic of the we about to give you the medical examination for sales but you just the kidney stone kept away the year like for my mind said was i want to fight the war in any capacity. You know i'm i'm on that. I have that privilege to go and fight for america. So i'd probably the that's that's that's okay and so then. I went to a school and the school. I met piece less barriers. I know if you knew him. But so less body us He was a motivator in millington. When i was going to my parachuting school s it. Look i passed the task I can easy positive again. But i had this kidney stone and i i just want to be seals so anyway maybe some maybe people or can we the paperwork yeah. You can't just go get your medical record from your from your medical of bring it here. We'll take a look at it. So i ran up there. What magic you'll come up with. I'm sure there's some parabola assembler in relation to bypass the stupid keenly stock. So i brought his record right there gary just. I wanted to leave the room here. Just call you and second here rip. So he calls you back so the kidney stone. Where is that was like bright. Oh so you. that's i don't see any. I don't see any either should the keystone like you know. Maybe not. maybe i didn't okay. Well he didn't and a graduate from high school millington. I think we're under second top. Everything from bootcam- my graduate tober cut in hobart. I was military excellence award. I very fair actually The the top recruit from that batch graduating high school graduates. But if this second the second highest score so i i had things going on for me and then i was waiting for my order. That he say okay. I send out parade. Hopefully it gets approved and should three months later. Got my oldest. So that's whereas of this restaurant is obviously you show up at buds. What was What was there any major challenges for you was like you said you were not the not a great swimmer. How were you on the rest of the water stuff well. The the the the prowler was i could swim. Only on one side. I never swim with the moscow on so we though they dumping the pulisic. I want you to swim here. This ice throw sites through this. How you do it and you'll be swimming all the styles i will tell you to do. I was kind of okay with it. But when they put the mask on after the first couple of the whole pass out. I mean i was like hyperventilating. Blacking out the blacks myself about die here if i stop taking me out. I ain't stopping see. I know that you buy south. They'll rescue me those guys over what they tell us that we are safe. So we are saying so. I was blacking out fellow blackout hitting these black spots but the become easier and easier by. I think by the time like in our like. They ain't that bad. So what is it just like some weird like claustrophobic thing on your face or something like that. Couldn't breathe through my nose. And i couldn't bring out how to breathe through my every time i took get breath. I've sacked water. So i think i i. I was breathing water in the time and that was coughing. I was suffocating. I was basically drowning. Felt like i'm and there is just going to quit about our just pass out and see what will happen if i have to buy them. I didn't pass out the got better actually. By the time there was a fourth face. There was a brief as one before you clap for the for the training so by the town why we graduate from the fourth face moving to our senior class. The students ask me to demonstrate the new guys how to swim this ice wrong so at our begin with good. That was never swim. Swim forever and you didn't. You didn't come up with any injuries or anything. Being a thirty three year old guy going through buds. Another time The guy scores always tired. I was looking young guys like. Hey let's go to the bar. Like dude i can hardly move. I can't go to the bod. Still make it out to the bar here but there was just very painful for me because again i was not the intensity of it is not just a one time because like one time training most of the people that one day and again he might survive by the over and over and over it just wears your body where you down and eventually some people quit so that was the most difficult for me. Because i'm did not recover as far as being thirty two years old As other guys. So what was your first. Were forced orders. What team did you get. I get to seal team two and the actually the they I wanted to go to crtv four. I don't to be called not to them at the time. Operator the the north part of the european in europe in general. So i see. I just wanted to get the team. Four but friend of myself dude. You your language with your police rashaan and using i speak japanese do so with with your languages. You be good acid in the european famous staff so kind of like the sas. Switch it from their team. Fourteen two at putting for second as got the nasdaq visa Just for some reason i don't know i was. I was not maybe the technical person at the time and the challenge challenges do be as the operator is twice as it has to be a seal but you have to have the expertise with this mini sobs and with the operation of it. that for me. I fell was overwhelmed by that. What you need to know to be good operator in this. Dvd teams so So i i just to get my orders to seal team to went to boot Went to jam school Did you did you go to for banning. yes i for me. It was kind of fun time. Because like when i was growing gobbles i never had the chance to go through these knee line. The serbs this type of thing. The fans how children were playing rounded. But i couldn't afford it so when i got into power like holy shit. This is like a disney. Live care what position he would meet the jabber just like running or not and that's the kind of day but the other very rigid so i remember that a lot of fun too because what i think you went through the same thing so that is the for bank so you still next to each other shoulder to shoulder so close that basically usually cannot even move and then he just got you line. You grab the line drag. You just could never do that right. I was always scared of so but then we found out that if you'd like tip one of them from one end rb guys they would just totally say seattle amusing a little bit of alaska clubs down but my issue was that I don't like laughs so so just so everyone knows. Appeal f is a parachute landing fall. And it's a technique that you get taught for static line jumping where it's supposed to minimize your injuries. Because you keep your feet and knees together and you hit like you kinda like role you sorta roll when you hit. And you keep your arms kind of talked in and supposed to prevent you from getting injured because when you're on a we're on one of those parachutes you're still coming down really fast. It's not like what you see in the movies when guys can kind of come down on a free fall parachute and they flare and they just kind of kind of tiptoe away from it you hit pretty hard especially if you're a heavier guy. The heavy you are the harder you're gonna hit so they try and teach and plus the army's working with the hundreds and hundreds of people getting thrown out of that thing Throw getting thrown out of aircraft every day so they try and teach the most simple way that they teach hundreds and hundreds of people how to fall without getting hurt. Now i also was not good at the peel. F i try one time and just put my shoulder forgetting doing you the more suit. My jumba stood up. I i was another big deal because the jazz at the time so i just jump out language the hit those those black black hats cubes peel if private. Pif was like wrote you my parachute and just all i can they. They don't have to come so that they they knew from from not listening to you Yeah those lines. They were killing me so i didn't do than them. So you get the team to what what you put in a platoon right away or did you go through asking. I know i had to wait for ski. I had wait for that time. It was co technical training. But when i show having the tame you know like you have the new new. Salem new everyone i wanted to booth come to a school or a that. The ballots everywhere so far so So he helped by the book. Never so i should have been by nowhere like five minutes later. I'm hanging the a body my blues and the fucking doing pull ups run three miles working the in my thing and it's like what by the time i realize what's going on. I had completed the whole t. v. my blues and staff with the new guys. You know what he's talking about there is. He's shows up at in his dress uniform. When you check into a new commander in your dress uniform uniform you've got and you don't normally you'd wear it for like a ceremony so he shows up with that uniform on and they're like cool we're going to do a physical physical. What is it not with our stanford physical something physical readiness test. Yeah so you've got gotta take a physical readiness test event. Told me they say getting the pull up pull ups could go for the round now see is being grasp losers i everything was so shiny aspen all night just making sure that no no wrinkles no laughing and here am dissolves arrived up so anyway i finished that. That's the welcome. Welcome to the team new buddy. No just say that. That's okay. I guess this is the way it goes. So all with the other surprise for me your sub damaso. There's couple of other guys at the same time. So when we schwab in the team and this okay. Hey at that time in the entertainment on every friday. We had a bigger in the highway keg beer and the guys were drinking beer. So hey you guys we just invite you for the kager just to come and join us for the so our remember. I was so taken this old guys. This old navy seals. They're so cool and not take these new guys. They've had with the beard and staff and well. I didn't know that were just. Put them using new guys then. That's not sooner than we just crossed the door of this bay. We just get beat up taped up. Hang up the fucking chains while these guys are blinking throwing the insults and ask. Hey stuff say they have to be. Fair was in lower as down the stick this tube our mouths from the ragged just pulled the dragged into that building the dreger bag and just squeezed as you words so by the time. Eli giving so much that you didn't you say as long as they move you overnight hanging and it didn't happen so so now i realize that this is not to just have to say to fraternize with the all seals. We just for amusement as a new guys meet fucking new guy. So that's there was working to the teams. But that's that's the way to go so i don't have a problem with that and then i was waiting for them is not getting beat up here and there and then that was fine. Then we're city at. Sat pretty much pretty straightforward four with me. There was those me and the other guy has scotty lynton great. Guile this guy here. The teams later so those two of is there were different. I remember when rusty everything went that problem with my english. Because i still haven't translate everything all the commands you should move and the you know you communicate so going to translate in my head and polish dan and be fast enough to do it and act so was okay so when were eventually we came to the crypto and the radio communication quick man in the class and went to clip the and the wheel sitting there by the time we. We're about to take a test from this as two more days. So today was the last class. You use the graphic equipment how to you all that stuff and so that the next day supposed to be i think final exam and then there's the move to the next section of st so this cat comes in one of the truth comes in like do you have clarence the know what it is so most likely you don't have it. You have a clans and scott like well. I'm not even. Us citizen can with me. You know so. We went up there and so like look at us ever say anybody you went through this class. You just don't say nothing does say anything. You never sit in that class. Okay you guys get your colossus. Then go do it and so so. Yeah we'll just see that so next day. We'll see our guys watching to the field. You know that quick setting. I've been doing the crypto staff and as a watching any of those that shit i mean. There's not the difficult with positive tests. Now scientists were the throw this class and there was a big deal. But i guess they want us didn't want anybody to know that we sat with glass not getting the secret clearance and And so i got my clarence. So i went to the shag upstairs in this team to pass the test a scuttling eventual gatty citizenship. So we all went out there because he was in the platin- by this time and he got his staff to move down so that my first platoon this house. Member mature bixler good. think it. this guy didn't have a heart attack yet. I think my hair will have it because of me because my english skills so there was really that good so everything we you know whatever you do you know who have to communicate. Kate fast. Very effectively and i just was lacking english skills at the time. The funniest of things are funny. I made it through this plotted on. So i was not anymore. Fucking new guy who was not an more meat. And we i remember so when you come back from presper tune or mike from platoon from deployment yours at this school. I'm going to sniper school and went to this school. The school said. Hey what's called the juge. just we're going to do them english wirelessly. Their next door is fucking the navy. And so i spent the next three months doing actually english classes. There was not bad because actually it helped me in my career in the future. So basically they've legit sent you english school. Yes yes saved my career. You know these guys were apparently they seen something in me. Say well you know. He buttered english language companies. Were you having a hard time. Like communicate like going through the house instead of trying to communicate especially the communication going through the house and communicate so at the time i was still had to still had to. I didn't tell them there. But i translate from what i hear to my polish. Thank then had to think of the solution. Translate english and sate so i managed that. But there's so much easier later on. When i is good so that's just flow but instead i have to be fast fast. What was your. What was your position in that between sixty sixty galleria putting people tunes as just a big kid thing you easy to loud. Because you don't have to worry about this this little piece magazines. Just put the in good to go. Where's your first. Deployment was it to europe Yeah it was. In europe there was at the time. actually deployed to San vito in italy and Those o'grady got shut down actual. Were looking at him. And you know this has become brings to my mind. Two in seal team's you do every day you do something they can kill you. I didn't think about it but it does. I remember flying over the arctic sea. Where we're actually on. Look out for this for this pilot Linda he was sitting in there and there was a sniper. So he's seeing that and the fucking with these guys and we'll look at it and i think will be white say park the say nothing. He's hold bell just dropped off so sitting on the ledge of. I think it was scotty. Yes scotty so the ramp is open. He's sleeping on the ramp telling with his son. He's called bow gun so he just i think it was. I think it was just like snowboarding. Just crap he's asking poking me inside a dude you're almost out of that shit because those clips easy to come on. It's not something that say safe that they will state calls on you. So that was the thing and this comes to my mind is always. There's something some situation you can get cute. And if you look at the statistics i think from the before the war. I think working like two guys in training every year the average. I think when. I'm working with this guy died. This guy was killed in training. This train like two guys every year for sure. Now's there's definitely you're doing stuff every day whether parachuting diving shooting. You're always doing something that that can give you a bad day or make you fall out of a helicopter. 'cause your belt came off. So did you guys. Did you ever do any work down. In a in bosnia yes went to those in other plateau. We went to bosnia yugoslavia. We spend time. I was pretty good time. She will like it was just get. There was only not much to do at the time but just walk out and get big so that was good platoon. Actually that this is what. I meant a strongest guy and i think the team side. I think i can think of chris. S i don't know if i can bring his name asking so just to be on the safe side. But he knows who he is and what a went to france france. I mean this guy was leaving five plates. The bench bench press so when we went to france. We just got the french equipment. Just bent that shit out of the there that the fiber house when he picked up this bribe pry bar the the bar band and those weights for up falling off. Sold these french guys. They stop working with us. They're just like whenever we rolled into the jim. They just sit down of the we have so that they that was actually funny but yeah there was big letter. I remember it so there was entire platoon. Think over two hundred twenty pounds. I i think there's one guy may be was not but that all of us were over two hundred twenty pounds. Of course chris was way much more And yeah that's i remember for me. I want. I need to join us. Have the twenty pounds. I'm working so hard. And i'm just like a a pound bore have upon i two thousand nine hundred eighteen fuck. It'll keep me that loaf of bread right there. So i was just like hey few grams to get to this. Two hundred twenty pounds. I just challenged that push myself that bread myself given the scale to twenty and a half to two hundred twenty pounds club. Now i wish i could get to the twenty second so then what was it when when showed up at team to what was was that your fourth platoon. Yeah i think so or your third quarter. Maybe i figure i i'd remember you showed up. It's like i remember. I had the swim with you this before we plateau map so we just did dive that the swim and i said well you had kind of big guy so i don't think you'll be swimming that fast so i'm saved with you. I'd be alright and second. You look you look at your boy you. The boolean has okay and so again the water far. You'd recognize that boy. You drag me and the with you. I just could not keep up. I mean those guys taking renfro. You shouldn't be you so big. You shouldn't be swimming. that fast. Were doing like a recall dive or something. Yeah i think it was required idea. There was just swimming from one place to another couple of lakes. Cute and that. I think it was five so i remember you drag me and the boy the so bad. I think i'll just over breed. That sure they'd be. We made accessible. And so that we get putting the platoon and Freaking really good work out their whole. Yeah good work those really good platoon good deployment. Do i mean i. I really enjoyed starwood went to spain. And we hijacked in the russian tanker to. That's that was that. Was you know now. Even when i look at the at it after my experience in combat. I'm sure to that big deal by the dead time. There was like holy shit with not only hijacked at the russian tanker. Vulgar was welcome. It was on that thing rather finally thanks to you. Remember with Ships later because russia tankers regulated justin clarify everyone for for the english translation. Where when when drago says we hijacked a russian tanker reacted hijack a russian tanker. There was a there was a tanker russian tanker that was smuggling oil out of the gulf in one of the missions that we had while we were over there were stopped people from smuggling stuff out of the gulf. Most of the time we were taken down little little dow's little tiny boats and we would take those things down. We took down a bunch of them too but then this was the biggest catch that we got. Was this big oil tanker that we that we took with a russian flagged tanker that we took down we got control of. We turned it over to the the authorities but So we didn't hijack it but we did take visits and censuring i. There's a name for it but in high tech so we got it and And i remember the funny thing the the later right comfortable. So let's keep seals on it so just bobbing on this both bobbing on this boat. And but i remember so when we took it down we came back and then the next ship came day the other squad when they came back. See dude. He just left bunch of weapons with them. There is so much far. We took this the weapons that you guys let outside for the weapons relieve up that i mean the white house that boat. What now to be as when they will up there. They see those little butter patties. The mother they just fucking took it away from this guy so when we went back. These guys are coming. I spoke russian. See mr please help us. We'd have no teeth and we can't eat because these guys told our folks in our lives so we can. I cannot chew this is really maybe two or three thousand sticking out of the mouth. And that's all ahead so i remember. Yeah yeah weekdays so we actually bring those bomb button is of butter whether you call it an folks back to them so they can actually also remember those guys. They were telling us that we didn't do a good job clearing or whatever they were saying. 'cause they still 'cause we were like. Oh yeah they have have butter knives and stuff like that. And then they're like don't worry we secured it and we were sailing. We were on a navy ship looking at the ship that we took down. And i'm looking at. You did a good job. And i looked over. And there's like a fire i sorta. We're like good job you idiot. They it a fucking knives and falls the left these all these weapons lewis life. Yeah that that was crazy too. Because just by sheer luck our platoon commander went to the naval academy and studied russian. And so he spoke russia. We had another guy that was like Went to berkeley and and he studied russian. And then you so in a platoon. We had three. Russian speakers took down a russian vessel. Yup that's frigging lucky right. There was awesome. I remember just at the very beginning. We busted the bridge In remember this. Captain say don't cooperate with american season roshan. I don't see nothing. Don't operate resist as much as you can. Mr trump that he understand that said. Grab the describe what you have opened the big chimney where the door opened the doors. Thanks guys settling the russian mother for say another word. I'm going to squash you right here for the rest of the just little tiny space. Forget but there's don't fuck with these guys on. Okay no problem and we have a problem with this guy again. So yeah i i tell you. I think he had about your rubber neo. He was in my in our platoon fairly good by the time. We're best friends and i remember. He was a sniper on this. Are they going to happen. I think to you have. I'm looking over you. I remember as we moved to the shape as we should. I said i. I know it opens up there. Nothing shit is going to happen to me. I know he'd take down that anybody who's on our way so makes me comfortable. Yeah that was We had a bunch of tight group platoon. Yes and also you were talking about being big. We were also. Oh yeah we also. We tried to get a platoon average of two hundred pounds and we had to make up for some slacks. We had some we do we. We are remember we got to We the first place we went was spain. Oh and i was trying to get to two fifty. And i see the same thing. I was trying. I'm eating i'm lifting. i'm squatting eating and i was. I couldn't get above like two to forty five or something like that and then where we stayed in spain was they had an all you can eat buffet for all three meals of the day and i was like. Oh i got this. Three days later. I was to fifty. I weighed in. And i was like you're to fifty and then i went on a four mile run and i was like okay. I need to lose weight. i remember. we're leaving our doors. Were open right on the beach so ridiculous. It's like i'm on the beach right awesome awesome deployment that and then the bahrain and Those the the christmas party. I mean christmas time came. The york came and kind of gathers tighter and close together new. Those are the two thousand year so there was really really good. time have very found. Moore's almost like very nostalgic to me right now is just so So we get done with that platoon. I know i got back. I went to college. You carried on Where'd you say at team. Two or two different team No i think you'd remember when we came we came out as a two thousand As a as a platoon from crm to we came by at least some of us so the remember decision two thousand. That's right right. They made some adjustments to the way they were structuring. The teams yes so when we got back you housing for you went to sing for okay so all these appeals and all that stuff. Eventually i ended up in one of the platoons that were the we deploy to south. America wouldn't puerto rico and we're like three miles into deployment when they they call me. My chief calls me and say hey drag oh we. You'll get the bag. That research baio share. The link. facilitate the polychrome with our guys. Where were you when. September eleventh happened to quarterback i was actually watching it as it happens and there are a member. I was working. I was in the gym and the airplane. Hit the towers us like with the fucking idiot. Some just flew into the thing but then as the you know the news progress and said i there was a there was a deadline. It was not this more at a plane. Had just put my attention say. That's that's something that something wrong here. And then the second plane hit the tower. Remember and i still have a hard time thinking about. It has me all these memos and our watching the towers collapse so it just brings tears to my eyes out in the. I can't think about it. i just Determined is go. Kill the salvages. So so as you're now now fast forward a little bit because you're back on deployment your team for your in puerto rico. Probably going completely insane. Because you're in puerto rico instead of being either in afghanistan or iraq yup and then you get a call yes and i tell you john everybody in the how the for drag at this you know seals we are aggressive. There was a war. We want to win the war and yeah so as fucking. This is just incredible. I'm so them like he. I can pass it a cheap. I can pack my shit right now. Just go share. Just think stabbed is. Let's hear blah blah. So let's see what will happen is that we are i think the deployment of the time so we'll just go for another half another three months. Just help settle down to things. Said love the graham combined and joined the other platoon. the award cubbon. Sassy yes excited african. I've learned the bag that serve so disturbed sense. So there's a there's a special forces unit there called grom what does it mean thunder or is that it is a constant but you know you can translate grown actually as a thunder it is standard standard is according for actually look Rugova at i don. I can say this so it does. It does stand for something in polish something but it also means thunder minster. Anima right right but it's not only whether taste. Yeah so so the graham. The polish graham had deployed to baghdad. They were actually co located with the seals that were also in baghdad and they needed someone to be liaison between the polish grom and the seals that were there and of course everybody kinda knows or had run into or someone knew that there was a polish guy or a america on american that could speak polish. That grew up in poland. That was in the seal teams. They track you down. They give the contact through your chain of command and boom you get the call. How long did it take from the call. Two days you fly over there. I think a week or couple of few days because my staff the process. My orders and Back in my style from civilian aircraft to it was funny. Because i have all the guys thinking that aloke craft to middle east and eventually A london bag that two thousand three. Oh i have. The heat was kind of when i unpack my staff. Adjust to that as like that. The wind blew like fuck aircraft. The jet blast off some. What month did you arrive. May should do hat does not even hot yet. Not even hot. yeah. I mean like june. It's going to calm. Oh yeah and then july august. It's on so but even may you're like getting they're like oh why it's so hot whereas the blasting look out like that is known as the winter so you so you you show up jenny. Posey yes So they they into jimmy pasi and paschel abbas so. I'm getting briefed and They okay so this is what we expect from you. This wouldn't happen so this is what i raised my first alarm. I say i'm going to see the fucking humvee wash it happens. I'm here. i'm going with these guys if they go. So you know for the command. Our safeties priority. So they you know well. We don't know these guys really. We know they are good. But you know we don't train with them. We need to train with them that much. So we we set you lose with these guys. I mean you taking a. We are taking chances that you can get hurt by. There's no other way. I'm going with these guys. I mean i. i won't get into respect even from our myself just sitting there doing nothing so after the base they say okay you can go with these guys so for me. It was good. Because i was double dipping. I was going with guys. That don't just switch mcginn. Just go by without guys richard gere. You mean change of clothes. You wear the uniform on the loan i would. I would change my reload and go without i. Sometimes on the fly. It was on the fly because of the at the time within five so the graham hit the target. Then we'll move to another target just which the cars go viral guy so i got some of those missions is pretty good. I think freaking live the dream. No kidding i mean this is like so. That's why three months came in as supposed to. I think from my fucking insane shed either so i keep growing of actually the assay who wants to stay longer here because they have this change but we could appreciate any change. Your i'm here. So yes i stayed there like four months pass like nobody says anything five months. Now this thing. I was like fucking happy as can be saying shit to these guys and so like in the eight months so this eleven mazda diplomacy a year end. Veggies broke and guys. I need some help. Can you guys along me your energies. The said well. Yeah we can you know as a platoon when we deploy our gears limited and we have something that can support them the platoon ask but not too long some other guys so win for wild. What else to call my team guys. So then be jesus in baghdad. So this guy's like listen to this like what can send me anything that was. This is a drag so you want me to send equipment to you somewhere in baghdad campos campos so and who who. You are who you are. Who was like i'm just dragging. I'm seal team guy on tim guy like to do you. Don't even speak english to you. Want me to send a suicidal bumps into to just throw just iraqi. Solar parking gear to send somewhat baghdad literally pays motherfucking african. Kill you when i when i come back and the by then give me my sleep on line. So they might achieve on. It must achieve ended. Hasn't to get some veggies here. My brogan say wait. Wait wait drag. what are you hit. Baghdad the master chief quiet second pick how long you have been there almost a year deployment than that dude. You need to come back. Because seal team saturn saturn wants to bring the numbers here is about to deploy and we are next. You need to come back as there's no way to grow down when they go maybe so much by the time he added to combine so they send me that i come back to little creek and so then the next is coming out so i said hey guys that can go get addicted to that stuff. I mean you just. You can't leave society just like dude. I just laugh at this place here to leave like this. I want to be there. And so do i go with you. Guys can use you. Just help us settle down with his. You're the been there for so long time you're with ground so help us you. You'll help us settle down with that staff with graham and so when that so jerry for a couple of weeks and for me as a yeah. that's awesome. He's got a couple of weeks as much as i can get so we flew up there and there's like four months later like hey dragging you need to come back because we have the plane. Too much isn't a unique to join your platoon ceo. Shit okay so as allen. The way. So i came back in town around and cuba again with the mice. We'll see looking forward. The funny thing is that i am i. Am i on this. Last stuart and i was there guy comes up to me like i don't know him from adam. I like even the guy he got such good. Have you been hearing two thousand three so yeah have been hearing two thousand and four. Yeah when did did you ever go home. He well do. I remember seeing you. Three fucking years sent me a lawyer. You'd have been here for quite sometime to you. Know this guy's awesome job so The army guys them. Yeah yeah and those. That was my my iraq time. It was interesting like when we were there together and just to give everyone an idea of what was going on. So they're grown there were there would be Intelligence from various sources coming down and we would kind of go out and capture kill bad guys and sometimes sometimes we were basically rotating back and forth between graham and the decio platoon grams tuned. And sometimes it would be to targets and we just go out together and or if it was a big target. We'd go out together and maybe graham would be external security in the seals do the assault or maybe seals would be external security and graham would do the assault and i. I don't remember you're going to have to correct me. But i don't remember many of them speaking english not when the time now everyone everyone speaks in speak. That speaks about time. Yeah there was only me and who. This is. Why i was for me. It was great. Because i was going on the missions with them i was doing assaults and In the storm the hideouts with them and without a guy so a all of the thing but yeah they. They did not speak english at the time. So what i remember is like we would give our brief and you'd stand there and translate the brief for them and then they would explain what they were doing on their target and you would explain what they were doing to us and then anytime that we were you know we were. We were kind of doing something together. You you were really critical for making the connection between what the two elements were doing is frigging the pretty big job. There was It was. I think it was important at the time but eventually we meshed so well that i remember sometimes cal. Hey hey dragon is dead guys. The grom guy was our guy. That's our guy scott tower. Who is who. Because we're working so altogether Yeah but you know talking about this. English thank Translation and stuff. I am also. I think m- besides being breeder and breaching in iraq known for my english skills. Actually for my actually. I'm going to patent it. I'm thinking about patenting gate. I became known for being the fastest english. Language instructor teacher to terrorists actually developed. That course accounted drag goes accelerated english language course for terrorists basically give me five minutes with the terrorist because they only say i speak no english. Knowing was mr moore stop. I teach you five minutes later. The guy got she could speak with better could say things. So that's that's i think i'm very proud of my skills. That's that that that's something about patenting it eventually because it worked so well it was. It was awesome to like. When i when i said that the transiting between us and the graham you're right like we'd be out on the target and we wouldn't would be very little that you would have to translate because we all knew what the mission knows knew what we're doing we would interact very well together and just like just like seals. I mean when you're on a seal operation you're not talking bunch. You're you're basically on those types of mr barely saint anything so it was. It was not like you were all the time having to translate but there was a couple of times or or there would be times where it's like. Oh we need to know what they're doing. what are they doing. Hey a where they going right now. It's like oh they saw guy they saw squared or they're going to get him my cool roger that just just taken care and and bringing those two units together and man. It was awesome working relationship that we have with the graham. Who was freaking awesome. They were great guys. I really enjoyed that war because especially they're all the same. Roe's but then probation of this hour as well bed maybe the more loose of not so strait so there were there were they apply everything then so be applied to are always but there were also realistic about that stuff. So those pleasure of toward with them I if i mix it up you know. I had that sweet earphones. The celtics with one connected the polygram to us. So we've i switched wrong sudan way in fact draco goddamn speaking english us with other one drago with understand shed you just say people always careful you do things very fast in combat and then head to the switch this thing the right way because it's like i don't understand what the widow speak polish. So you're there for o-3 you got there in. May you're there for you're there my whole deployment which was from Oh three to october three or something like that of three to to spring of oh four then five and then you went back for a little bit. Did you go out with my platoon. Then came back to four and we are looking for. the point. came back again for another six months so that was cool the thing. Is you know what what it does to is. I remember it becomes almost unreal. This war here. I remember talking to my girlfriend at the time and say hey. I need to go to go home. I'm tired now. Serve like stupid home your home. His dad your home here and blah blah blah. It's like oh shit. Okay well whatever but the reality is that that plays becomes your home the when you think about these this world but people on the streets making groceries become a dream almost like state. That's just like yeah. It is daddy no but like now here when you think about the fairytale some snow white or something sounds great. But it's just like a fairytale so for me. This war become a fairytale. It was just like a now is there is awesome. But i'm here and this is my reality and then almost like a dream you know. Sometimes it will slab. I was dreaming being enormou- wall and Yeah so that's dead. Become the world here become very distant to me become almost unreal because there might reality was the war and elected i mean that was my thought i liked the but i have to thirty. Because you know my job i was. I'm breach on. So i remember at the end of deployment for the the first deployment. I start having problems breathing. I couldn't read so. I remember trying to read the sentence in my eyes. Were jumping to read over and over. And then when i finished reading that don't remember what i started sentence with so it took me sometimes the five six minutes to get through a paragraph and i think this is because of the concussion i mean we are exposed to these To the staff. And i did a couple times that i you know like we. We're going explosive. Breach to the door looked at intel pictures. Okay so this is how we plan you know. We prepare our that the briefs. There's a way to hide this assault. Element is going to be. There's a breach us. There's going to go door. we go well. Some of the speeches were not an acura. Remember iran the situation that we had a the salting stash that sent the breach charged with a guy came bagging. The island place. I was like park. There's an you remember most of these a most of these buildings or these hideouts where fence over there the fences and staff so once we climbing side that is leading the place to hide. And i had to blow much that ship. Imagine myself like fuck item. I'm going to make you rookus looking for some place to hide. So i just put the gun from of my face and fucking blow this shootout it. I remember i didn't remember much after that. I mean i've got my force on my four. My legs and my mom was bleeding from my nose and ear. Then but what kind of a who always puzzle. What have is my side. I mean i the bruce like putting brought my rapes that fucking came from so the ground guys like the dude. You're on your would just have to kick you out of the way because there's no way you just you adjust on your force and we so basically they keep me out of the way. The keyword almost broke my rapes. But you know this is not something that you accept. Because that's yeah as as a breeder man those those operations like those breaches that you guys were doing an. I would usually position myself where i would be. Kinda with. there'd be a wall. I would sort of put myself on top of the top of the ladder so i could see the breach. I could see the building. I could see if there's any enemy movement and then right as you guys would say turning steal. I would duck down. I'm not i'm actually. I'm actually ducking down behind the wall because there could be fragging stuff. I oh yeah absolutely but but you guys were inside those compound walls and you're probably whatever eight feet ten feet twelve feet away from the blast and so like i said i get a little little bit of protection and i don't feel as much concussion. The concussions going up and then as soon as the breach goes i jump over the wall and got we go do our thing but you guys are just taking that breach on a nightly basis taken that hammer to the brain look. I know there's some of them where you know it would be really bad and it might knock you out but even the ones that don't knock you out even the ones that you just you just you just suck up that thing and it doesn't knock you out and then you yep that thing is not good for you like those breaches are not good for you and who knows how many hundred hundreds of times you just took that took that took that minor concussion and over time it's definitely gonna it's gonna freak and leave a mark humiliates. Yes we were by the us you know would not aware so acutely of the than as we know now what it does to you and you you you lead and you know you get shirt shaikh shake shake shake shake get thrown off of that sometimes of the ground. Just you're you're right the blast but then just going you move on your auto-pilot basically you know what to do train for years to do it so this is what i say. I was so effective. I i enjoyed skills. I could apply as an also. That's that was a great feeling. But it does not feel when you bleed from your ears those but By the justice th the tactics and techniques that affected the how wealthy work. Yeah when you said good feeling hours just thinking about like when. I got the baghdad. So you've already been there for a long for eight months. But i remember just being so freaking happy to see you and i was like because we already did a platoon together. We already had awesome time together. Yeah and i was like and other thing going with your platinum. I think this somebody's on this. Talk to other guys. We fucking safe is like do. Share this not going to happen to us. Nothing's going to happen to us. I think i think that the way you're was fired up the way you were fired up the way it was. I think she pays a lot to do with it. How you feel about this the keep an open for us was just like fucking neck and operate like this forever all right. So let's talk about when you when you get back home after you spend all these months and months over there and you were talking about. How the the concussion like you're trying to read and you see the freaking words are moving around you get done with a sentence. you can't remember. What did you when that when that first started happening to you. What were you thinking. I was thinking. Keep it quiet because they will move me out of the platoons. They'll they'll let they won't let me go towards so i just keep my mouth shut and say nothing. Did you go back into another platoon at this point. Yeah there was. There was after the first the first deployment Sally so i did tomorrow. A combat combatants with that But coming back talking about returning from this there was almost a year being deployed. I remember i landed in the norfolk and the guy said like okay. Hey go ahead and to help you something. I have all my gear in all the staff. Puerto rico it. Because i just came back from i went to from your basically from puerto rico to uraga so i had to hit my old gear. Stygian mike year the code. Those called and i was so tired. I remember say no to this guy said coming to pick me up so i'm good so alive. Shut the door. Those like nobody the norfolk military airport african fall asleep like fucking getting dot com freezing my ass off. Say for the fuck other enough. What am i assume. I'm not for what's motherfuckers didn't show up so like my phone is dead so as fucking even call them so getting fucking nine called. There's nobody there so it's like headstart to knock on the door. Hey hey are on. So nobody shows up. I was like i'm so fucking called the time i'm just saying i need to get inside because al get hypothermia. Grabbed his fucking country. Garbage thing about the swing into the window at this guide us up opens the door say do cowed ask. These guys didn't show up. So so i account because my phone is dead i can. I don't even have a four. I don't remember because my brain is stop. Then the remember the number two group scout the team. There's a weekend so that team is not there. cal the group. So they say. Hey some supposed to the app too few hours ago. And i'm still in the parking lot so who you are. Who osama drag of what coming from. I sent from baghdad. Pucker of you don't have anybody in baghdad. The as we know we are not even there. You fucking needed and just hang up. They thought they just. I don't know what they think. They're so group to this not necessarily seals in the quarterback. Anybody logistic people sakaba again. I say hey motherfucker. Give me over the the officer of the day. I need officer. Because i need to. I just came back from by to give back to the teams so he say they call the. And that's hey this greg. I'm just came here for a few hours ago. So guy supposed to pick me up at the pierre by the app today he just oh hey draco we are so sorry just send track right now so we are on the way so they sent the guy. The tech came in and click really liked him so he he he come in they load my gear. And we've got the team four. They took my gas away to the they. They put it away. You're not allowed in my cage and something just me semi to my mesa fucking heaven by this time. The girlfriend life to me. She just say you don. She called me on christmas day that she needs to move on them. She don't have time for this shit so like she had my car my staff but they'll get so i have no cardis pakistan. Wouldn't go plays my my my clothes out of there. Everything i had was crews bags of things but was replaced. So actually i can. I take this key stole the key from the one of the speaker tags outside and that's just bottled it. And i'm glad i did because the guy will guy we were got outside. He shuts the door. Or i was the code and to get inside. You guys are sleeping in their teams in the cages. He can't do that then. The more there's new regulations you are not allowed to go sleep in the teams the place to go you say well. Tough shit man. He just the kind of life that's like what the fuck so. I tried to remember the code. I don't remember. I can't remember it so we'll get those punching things because they stopped the quarterback duties sometime ago and the second remember iraq. But i am so hungry now. Just introduce something. I just do something to eat. So i had no money but sapling my credit card could guard by the haircut gird my atm card. It's like maybe fifteen us so far to get ten dollars. So what can i say. I hope so. I drove to in virginia beach too. I hope by. I think there was at the time borders bookstore and i came to this thing and gave me those cheese blades loved. She's been so from the from. The i also got mitch's blends got coffee and i got so sleepy so tired i fall asleep and then next thing is the guy the security officers comes. I say hey doing here. I mean you are sleeping around. I'm watching you and hilo for like five hours of so this like i think two o'clock in the morning messiah. Hey i mean what's the problem i said i. I'm looking at him still trying to get my wits together. He looks with like yeah. The bitch q. Out then she was like. Yeah the kicking me out. Yeah i say do you mind you. I just cool relaxed more morning and today morning. I'll just go and buy some more food. If i need to say no no no you find just relax and You know just. Don't cause any problems now. No problem so in the morning i will have slept the i hope so our gap and went to to get some found cows and most of the guys were team for the time they were doing something because it would deploy we were ready to deploy again so Eventually got hall of somebody. And then i got the code back to the team and then they let me as abundant off team much. There's always something guy sleeping in the cage because it gets leaked out from the house. He's given leaks. Came out with this problem because there's no place to leave or sure so like moving to the cage and those could the platoon had cable. Tv you have a shower. You have jim twenty four hour seven and there does only me a bunch of guys. You should just bang on the door. Somebody would come out and just opened the doors for us here. We're told that there's nobody hitting the teams anymore. Now fogged which god's think all kinds of cooked calls and then just a ploy again but the but there was the first my first comeback was not only that but then i find out that my checks are bouncing the body. That's no money at all. I said what the fuck so go to them. And they said rago. He didn't feel travel. Claims so travel claims. I was in iraq. We plus i was moving in. That was their flag eight miles nine months and were told. Not what about the travel claims. Well we just got an as your money. So you're not getting any paycheck. Just give you maybe three. Whatever that proportion was that they allow leave. So i'm so fucking sick and pace about it and i'm at tell you this i'm just going to make me assign Iraqi veteran i work for food and going of that fucking gate up there and get some money. Because i need to eat so that you know we love you. The money and chief mass actually loaned me the money. So i can buy some food and a by some bills. Of course i paid it back but that was so might call this The those civilians were to travel claims in group to the too damn shahryar them a see so next thing that keeps cows. Hey drago unit allowed the group to you. Hey takeout provost. And i think we have a problem so we just told them that you show up to you be always chief assisting you and you go with cheap so because you don't scare these people okay chief of that no problem and them and then just walk my way my way out of these. Pay my sample. Those travel claims no fuel to travel. Crimes did return some of the money and it was all good. You know that's that's not deploy again and again and The this with the ice house go was coming with all kinds of theories. Maybe my eyes out of by maybe. The ten is dark. So used the flashlight. They there's an. Ken fucking read. So just just give us here. Maybe i'm just not smart enough and the has just move on bbc without those stuff so it came back late. That how many more deployments did you do three to two more to iraq. So when what year was your last one two thousand five thousand three thousand four hundred thousand and five and then would you do when you go home from from that deployment from their deployment. At that time. I also read before you even jump into that i like. There's a certain transition period and there's there's like a you know when you're overseas especially for you you have one basically one purpose in life when you're over there like you get you get your mission tasking you you figure out what what the plan is. You get your gear together. You brief the guys who go out you do your hit you comeback. It's the simplest life. Yeah is customer. These the government can service. I would look at it but my customers would always pay. Then i got to kill them then you but you come home and all of a sudden there's all these other things right. There's the free travel claims and there's like apartments and there's all these other things that you've got to try and like deal with again and and sometimes just that is yours not takes a little time to get used to what you were saying. You were saying that the normal world doesn't really exist anymore and then when you come back and you get injected back into it. Sometimes it takes a little time to get used to okay. There's just this is what this is. What i've got gotta deal with. I gotta go stand in line at the dmv like a normal frequent human being. Which i you know. Let's face it if you if there was someone in the way when you're when we're when we're doing operations when we were driving if there was a vehicle in the way you freaking just knock vehicle off the road like you go out of the way and then you drive on. If there's a person that's in the way as you're moving towards the target you just free and clear them out of the way it's just no factor yes and so you get in that mindset of okay. I'm going to make happen. Whatever i need to make happen to get the mission done. That's the mindset that you get in and you get back and and you realize it takes a little time to realize that you can't just go can't stay in that mode because that mode is not that mode is actually considered to be criminal and destructive in destructive in america in the normal civilian populace. Yeah i remember but my first feeling was when i was Sleeping in the. I hope when. I came back kind of relief to when i i'm just looking out as see these people eating disorder working it out and say that's that's that's the normal live without was forget about it almost because you so immerse into that combat into that the time that that again this become like a dream. Then you come back. It's like that's actually really you know it's but also be really. I never realized that thing over your head always will get shot. we don't think about. It never bothered me. But then when i came back like going to get shot i i'm good applegate now but then come the reflection to thinking about the guys that did not come back and that's still bothers me and that's I think they will always stay with us forever. The omo county like the the suvival suvival guilt there. That's what they call. Why me why hayme though the me and This why cherish the members of the guys that i knew they are not here anymore because you know it fades and i think They are alive in they steal leaving our minds so what we can do for them is just remember them because if we forget who remember so they still alive. They are alive in our minds that we see them we remember them and we need to cherish this. It is so important to write the books about these guys who are not here no more because they can ride their own book to engage parents. That was tell parents of our guys look. They might not seem a lot but they are. You wake up and you know the paint doesn't go away just to land with it as a parent as a spouse but what you can do is just right. Lido thinks if you remember that guy but second. Yeah you don't remember. He was in this and then when he was a little kid. Write this down because those memoir fleeting you might not remember ten years down the road but eventually keep doing this. You will ride the full picture. The image of your child of your spouse who is no longer with us but helps all of our membership so it is important that you do that and hopefully people are doing it. Because they know that eventually become a book and maybe you want to share the parent of the spousal to share with us the other personal weeden because most of us know the guy the guy like fucking war your inner. He goes up there. He kills the bad guys he does. It needs to be done. But there's another side to each of us and we know that side of these people who didn't come back so it is important that we help maintain that memorial these guys. Yeah there's no doubt about that and even you know with with the opportunity. I have here Talking to guys talking to veterans from other wars as well and just just hear their stories and they still carry on the memories guys guys from the korean war guys from vietnam. That what you're saying is absolutely true. And there's like. I read a lot of books that guys have written in. And that's that's the memory. That's what they left behind and they remember in they account for the friends and brothers that they lost in combat. And it's it's priceless. It's priceless for us. This is how we keep them alive. You know this how we keep their memo written by keeping their memory alive because they leave you. Know what mine's suit so you end up doing another. Did your next two deployments were those back to iraq again. Yeah yeah and then. When i came back. I realized that i'm forty five. I haven't that time. My my girlfriend dumped me because of my career was another view. That wasn't making enough money. How she did. She actually say that the email that that really not. There's no place you to being. So i say fuck i mean. I'm kidding forty five. I'm getting old guy. And i don't have done even girls you know. I don't have anybody so i'm going to go and find somebody. How do i find somebody. I think these are just go online and look for somebody so remember there. Was this a site. America singles and that. I say fuck yeah. I'm american. i'm going to give me a wife. So so where american and i'm single insights from me so so i can ride very well right so i remember so we are going trying to find a fund. The garo cyclopes. She's so beautiful. I'm going to let me see if i could wing to her but doesn't tweet my age lead bill because she's so young so as he's like maybe third she's thirteen years younger so my little so wing to hair to write something. Go look at the issue. She winked box. You she wrote back and she also nicely sassy by right to her she just to just fired me right from the get even talk to me so so i took tim guys. Hey can you. How new ride the. Let the second lettuce so we're going on. We had the guys writing the love letters to my present wife. But just helping me out. You know because when i when i this is what i is. I be what. I be your love letter. Was i like you you like me. Yeah yeah me love you very much and so that there wouldn't go and so the gas keep doing it and i'm looking at this and this is soft parking awesome. She right so well she she so policies up so then i find out now. She's air force academy graduate So as a damn this wreck make it the. how many. How many years did you chop off your age when you initiate this relationship. I think five. Because god i did. Because we're not talking to you later. She had that. I had of women if somebody contacted. Debt limit yeah. She just disappear so forty forty-five was how the seven she was thirty. Seven thirty six. So you brought yourself down to clean forty. Yes like maybe thirty nine so strong. I was still she can by when she sees me she will like me. So so I guess keep writing me eventually. So you look google we will. Actually i think of these letters. What you can do right now is kind of based and you can just make any letter you want. Does the copy and paste so like worry about the but saying okay yeah. I'm evelyn later. So she wrote me email. And i'm trying to make some things out and then go out because senate letter click. She disappeared from the later is that she read the letter. And the caesar's have. France had into conclusion either on drugs drunk so that they were better safe than saudi. So she left was like so. I'd like the guys look so you did for them. Just so i like damn okay to start over again and then she shows up again. Well she shows because raffaele. They offered her thirty three thirty more free days. Like a freebie so somebody else. So she say i'll shoot. Okay i'm sorry about that last drago we apologize. Here's your money back and you get thirty more days to find a normal human being. I guess you know something shows up. I was pretty desperate at the time like a loved. We talk for hours of letters. I mean my team. That so So then she didn't the response as just just county just just county had talked before. No just she was. She's very proper she decided. I'm going to talk to you. I know even don't give you my phone number on thing but eventually got caught cutting to colleen. Had you told her your life story. Had you told her that you had come from poland or you tell him that you were of freaking hedge fund manager new yorkers something i just told him the navy Doing wild and you know just just to be very vague about it. And i think that's maybe i should like it either but the china to because i'm seon just came back from iraq may be crazy so i try to stay out of it but anyway the guys did really good job. If they stay with me they could continue. I think i have no problems whatsoever. But anyway i created a letter k miles a drug. Your some drunk person and she just. I don't mess with that so i finally get her to county and say look. This is me this blah blah. I told about myself quiet. Second say oh you just don't speak english very well. It's not drink and drugs right like that. Don't do any than drink. On on occasions maybe wind sometimes so we started talking about and they're finally she agreed to come visit me. Ouster lean love and yup. We are married now but those those big thing that the she thought then. Maybe i'm not quite right in my head. I was not but yeah we have. We have two children now and the together gown parv assault and a ten years. Eleven years old boy. So how'd you wrap up your your navy career. I wrote about it so when they met here. I went to master chief and feelings through at the time. I was in buds. I say look. I don't have any family that have this right here are if i go a war. Deploy scared up to out the looser. I've been to so many times so long time. Maybe you can find me some post that i can just get married. I just wanted to get married to secure this ago. and so i They said okay. What can i do help you drag. But let the from commodity. I mean well for that position with somebody who is really polished and who speaks english. Well and regulars neither. I seen this. They'll show to me. So i say fuck. I'm reading this way. But eventually i was able to win. They all that they send me to ohio. The and tab we got married of course and i retired from that and those kind of. I'm glad it happened this way. Because the transition kind of brent brought me back to reality there's another budgets killing people and beating them up. It is more also about the leading society being productive member of society so So that turn those good transition period of for me. That i could actually relax the join. The society began and a good person and and the ad domesticated now so the nice nice ragu and their and their lives guth My wife she's She has master's degree by engineering. She's about the pga and I'm here to support. Who were doing well. And i just means the team's definitely you're always going to miss the teams and by the way you're you. You may have felt like a villa in some way. But i can tell you bro you never villain to me. You're always always frigging. They're always there every single time On the goodguys side. So when you retired what did you do. What did you do once you retired. What year did you retire. Two thousand eleven okay so before retirement. I was told. I need to do this into this to that You know when you come back from war. I think some issues linked with you and it's like bad inlet care about doing that tab meetings about the. I just wanted to go to tire and move on with my life. I did not want. They really know what i'm going to do. But that was good in the programming and the software development and my website. Like the inputs. You need to do is your resume here and the start looking for the job so finally i said okay. I don't have the formality. Ceo at the right software. Accuse people so i. I need to do something soon. Say no no no. No you have experience you pay the a lot and the she wrote she company right. The resume time was resume essay. My good lock yet. There's somebody will call me back then days later to say. Hey look we have a position here. Would you like to come and talk to us. So like shoot i absolutely. Is i up there and get the job that i retired. I have a job. I think in two weeks before retirement. I got the job so started yet until my but my on my life. I was working. So my my retirement. And and that's all day in and they're just getting more and more expedient that a little more and more from the guys From the software engineers working with me and So my life is what it is right now. I'm actually I i ended up developing quite few programs. One of them is connecting with. This is As you know my views might open about the socialism and how dangerous the socialism is that When anytime you posted on facebook something about social. They banned me. They'll just basically stop. My account. people are calling me names. And i couldn't even respond to face with those facebook was blocking it so actually fact these guys fucking communists. I'm going to go and read my own facebook so clear connecting and we have thousands of people right now on the site posting you. There's no censorship everybody is welcome. It's not the rider left side just if you have if you'd like to say something and not be worried about being banned or ostracized by Zukin fuck it. Whatever his name as an owner this other work from twitter come to connect zinc. And you are welcome to to say whatever we like to say. Just please keep the violence down and not the nothing violent but just you welcome to speak be open. So it's it's connect zing z. I n g connect zing and what. I'm i'm now a member of connect zing. I'm on there. One thing that i i was thinking about as you were telling talking about everything today. I mean it couldn't couldn't be any better parallel between what you experienced in life and and starting this so at one point in your life the communist government shutdown all communications inside of your country and completely suppressed the populace. And what you did back then as a freaking whatever nineteen eighteen twenty year old was you said okay. They're trying to stop us from communicating. So what we're gonna do is we're going to start a freaking newspaper and we're going to go and wearing a run around in the background over to print it and we're gonna distribute it out there to people so even as a kid you realized the importance of free speech free speech we s and so now you're in a situation where you got banned from the social media platforms and so you. You're doing the same thing okay. Look you don't want me to you. Don't want me to speak. You want me to have free speech. Okay here i go. And so you crew created this website and this platform that people can now communicate and they don't have to have any fear of being bussed being suppressed. Yes and it is important for me. I i i see i think we are going the wrong direction that suppression of free voice eventual district in our country She's socialism has seven things in common whether this is adolf hitler socially some other national socialism whether this bernie sanders socialize more policy socialism. All have one thing in common is intimidation violence poverty having a villain stallion. Joseph stalin kulaks those wealthy patients there. Were they would always vilified adolf. Hitler had jewish people. He vilified entire group and politics. Act seems to me like veterans and middle class so th th th. The villain is important element of socialism but also political prisoners and political mortars. And the biggest of i think totalitarian social state is what state entities are an intimidating political opponents. We had irs You remember remember that attacking and vilifying the opponents and other state entities so. This is where i think we are dangerous spot and we need to act on it political prisoners. You know socialism they always say have politika prisoners because nobody sees for political reasons he sees for stealing a meal. This guy stays maybe driving on the curb with his car. This guy seats for something else. There's no part of the prisoners but they all see for political reasons. And you know we have here in plan. I mean what happened to him. You always find something that you can show me man. I'll stick the pentagon after him so they will find something to intimidate political opponents. And i think it's time to turn our country. We can have the things that are happening right now. Are very disturbing to me there too much. Like that social. He's mma that. I experience and i just like. I said earlier if people only took time to ask refugees from the former socialist countries in eastern europe s stood against able wouldn't have any democrats left in office. Tell you that it is so it is so bad. I mean I'm really concerned Yeah we had some We had some vietnamese vietnam war veterans on and they certainly expressed very similar concerns they lived through communism they escaped communist countries and they hate seeing and they're they're they're sick and when they see similar similar things occurring here and they. You know it's a warning warning warning but a heated before it's too late if not too late already because Yeah that's We already have. We're ahead socialist elections and seems like the rules that being implemented hours when i was talking to people about two thousand and eight. That was loftus off. That's going to happen here. we have may have been. We're having that right now. Implemented the rules are being implemented allowing people socialist elections socially elections. I mean elections what communists marxist and socialist always win. Now on top of that and another. That you've got that going on you also. Have you also have a foundation to help guys that were in the teams guys that are in the seal teams if they if they run into hard times for whatever reason you have a fund that people can donate to. What's what's that all about. As navy seals found this five. Oh one c. Three navy seals found the or not as navy seals. Found if you md and this is to help our guys because that a lot of team guys that lightly the teams before the time before the retirement and they know how no support support So and i've seen so many guys going with broken lives because they missed the payment here is the payment that the the war. They lost the job That some of them that the that whole Live was collapsing in front of them. What we read is like no red tape Charity that look if you anytime at anytime. Fifty three twenty six. We will help you. We don't let you down and it's just no nobody gets paid so if you can look at our website as much of team guys with the same attitude same ideals that we. We need to help each other and again. They don't want to get paid. They don't want the money. It is not about the money. This is something that we can give back to those less fortunate. Because there's a big problem. Look i was lackey. I came back. I met my wife. She was able to domesticate me and and create a human being again. But there's lots of guys that come back or do they. They got caught up in this in this violent cycle that you know the skills from the navy seal teams. Don't translate well on civilian in civilian life not many things. Some people have a hard time the transition so this happening with these guys while you know other job but i'm going to to go kit contracting. I'm going to go overseas again. No should should some to the plymouth the same job but with lots of money i can get a job i can get with my with my family. The guy comes back six months tons of money strength to find the dropped six months later he has. No job has no money. What the while. i'm tired tired. They just have no choice. I need to get back. I need to go back into the world again. So and that cycle repeats itself. We have guys in the cycle. Everybody there are some people that like lifestyle and they can continue on. But there's many guys that can't get out of it so this is where we step in. We want to help those guys. You want to get out of this Where here to help you and we stay watch over you. Awesome awesome man. Look we've been going for a while now probably a good place to Probably good place to wrap up. I know What we missed. You know we didn't talk about was one of my funnest. Things in life was was introducing. You to jujitsu. Oh those great thing and how excited you were. You were so excited when you learned that you could choke people and you could armlock people and i remember you got to scrap somewhere we were. You know out somewhere and you got into a scrap. And and i wasn't there you came back to me the next day and you had the look of just joy on your face you said chocolate jaakko and house like what's going on man you said i got in a fight last night and i was like okay. Did you get in trouble. He's like no no no no no no. I choked the guy. I choked him. You were so happy. And so proud. And i and i was quite proud as i should have to do. Ought to. it's something to because this is what gets is sometimes get out and misunderstand even within our committee with our guys so you know when i used to fight when i was the way i grew i. You fight until you destroyed the guy that the fight is over. Not when those okay. I got the audio. You had a better. And then he. He turned out he. He launched edgy so just beat. The guy doesn't move and then just what you need to be careful with. Is it actually happened to me before that. He'll in his own tongue. If you all the wrong way now into go because the police about to come in. So if he is not so the technique to the point pinup type so you just pin up. They get peanut butter of the guy. You the pen through his lip and he's talked to his lip so that way whatever he rolls in was once you leave he's not going to suffocate on his tong and people that i also. What's what's real. Yeah real because they can leave safely guy in the position when he wakes up. You just feel safe depending it's and pinkie stunk from his go home Versus being dead you know and then you get in trouble. So so yeah. That's that's actually good technique that a lot of brushing adopted. I think because. I thought that right there is also a good one where we were going through some kind of combative training and the instructors. They had like these boxes like taped on the floor and the purpose of these boxes. Was that if you had to handle a situation. You know in a hand to hand situation. Those boxes represented the area that you needed to stay in because if you got out of that area interfering with other guys feel to fire so it was almost a way for them to prove that look. You just need to stay still and whatever if you can't do it inside of this little box here then it's probably not gonna work. And so the they did some things with me with with grappling and it was kind of funny but then they take you and they go all right. You know you stand in this box and they put another like one of the instructors in the box and they said you know if you're new little space like this you know these kicked these kicks that you're talking about. They wouldn't work because you're you're too close had demonstrated. Yeah and then. So then they go. They go okay. Drago your standing in this box. You're not allowed to leave the box. But try and kick him try and kick him in the head and apparently they didn't know that you had very flexible legs and if we can get out of the box it was awesome But you know i remember to. I'm so glad that you mentioned about this because when you show have been deployed to them i remember just ask is. I'm going to check out the entire platoon in five minutes. Okay so you started it. And i said progress within the theft two seconds. You've tapping out or pass out next next thrashing like a couple of days quietly. Just inching their way out of the room. So you know you took out whoever. It was left up data including myself but There was actually good experience with that will start learning and i remember i remember that. That's not technically output put strong not technically while and that was wrestling with one window. The officers and i remember was thank almost everything i was. I had a pin came down. I was almost. He's hand the war in the world. He was laying down and everything find like thirty minutes later. He finally tapped out and give up. Then you woke up select. Well i didn't want to interfere with this but you're doing okay but if you take he's just down huby tapping our either way so i just try to say fuck. I wish i knew that. I spent thirty minutes. And here's a simple technique to do it so that was pretty funny scotty when he was. That's actually me. But because i didn't know it we're wrestling. You would over watching us and that sound. Like i'm thinking pretty good but he's not topping out so i'm just grabbing humor up and then you had team got other guys on. The platoons has praying me. How does car stops slope as stop for fucking world. I'd say he stopping he no. He's not he's stepping out now. He's not and then you say wait do you hear. Did you hear this. I say yeah but what does that mean say. Well he couldn't breathe tab there. Here's no way to tap out scusi dude. I couldn't breathe. I couldn't top out. So i could say was couldn't have breath events storm all i could do and then and then then you stole up. So that's pretty cool. Wow that's sparking digits man. Yeah that particular. Individual was kinda claustrophobic. And i remember i would train with him. And when when. Someone's super claustrophobic light. That sometimes i liked it. Sort of Give them some exposure therapy and try and make them more used to it. But i remember him. He's gone. He's just i get i get off me. He was so bad to get off me bill. I'm not down with nothing unusual to see having guy spicer. Who did he's though. It's what it's like. What happened at. I checked out. Does your good times good times. Awesome right on echo charles. Speaking of getting after it sure peaking of jujitsu speaking of you know maintaining the good physical condition. Which i'm really. You're telling me that you didn't like workout or anything bro. You're a freaking mutant. Because you were strong ish your life brutus thrown like your strong shit wrestle off man. That's just how when. I was nike being strong. Now that now that. I'm speaking that. So when we were lifting we were all trying to get jacked so so whatever. If i guess there's nothing. I don't know if you necessarily brought this from the eastern bloc but but drago thomas. This thing would do this thing where we would lift when you're getting you're getting your lift on. He had this primal primal noise so whatever. The platoon was in a gm somewhere overseas. You guys going dots. Every patil came in as a who came through. Because i was thinking about roles to everybody was leaving with us. Yeah and every single paternalist okay. We are screaming at for in moscow. What the fuck mints arts back as it good. Our as as i was talking to my kids and i was like. Oh yeah my friends coming on the podcast today. Oh whatever they don't care. But then. I was like this is the guy that originally sat because when my kids were workout i'd be like hey look when you're going to go for that big clean you gotta get fired up. What you gotta do is give yourself a little. So speaking of jocks. there's in powerlifting. The there's that or version of that and there's always that dan maybe there's like a physiological technique for that tightens up. When you if you're going to do it tightens up. Kind of your your your post earier chain right like you gotta make your whole your whole like ribcage kind of apps. Yeah like if you do it hardy. Everything's gonna get to straighten up that spinal area. Yes you know okay. So there's a method that has a name for it when you get down also beating somebody up and you. This is scott them even more fully but that there is a technique has a name like to tighten up everything. It's almost like there's a breath hold on areas brace for it or something. It's like a theory. It's an odd word. I forget what it is now but when you say that that's like a it's like you're not totally holding your breath. You're giving a little air. It's kind of like you know when you get you know those What do you call the blood pressure. There's you you pump-pumping anthony. Then you let out a little bit. It's kind of like that kind of thing anyway. I think it's a furrow. Technique doesn't block completely. Your breathing is. Yeah it's kind of extra pressure but still have that pressure valve true. Yes so maybe maybe. Just that's just how you kind of grew up in your mind. You just became very natural. Probably what happened she worked worked for for. I think for all of us because how the guys whether five seven or whatever show up there they all end up with adds a little bit stronger longtime ago. He asked me the people asking me and active. Better tell them missing. Elia means nothing but it means everything back a little deeper. When i was in college. I got knee surgery because they blow may and before. I got surgery i was like okay. What's the recovery time and all this and they're like ants it depends and they asked me. Are you polish or do you have any polish blood and said no why because polish people tend to heal faster so i is what the literally what. The doctor told me polish simone. So they didn't ask if you're someone did okay. That's both yeah but drago doesn't have someone less relevant. We'll just say. I'm just saying his ability may be attributed to his genetic. You know scenario blood. I'll at the time and maybe hopefully they will help me get got through but also the attitude that was never like i remember who see before the hell or during the halloween. This is so why you are here. Why would you come to bars and stuff. We'll try to be a the best guy at to be a seal cried so they came to me. I say i'm not fucking trying anything i'm here to be. Seo i just. I will be as i get injured kicking me out so i'm trying. I'm just on my way to be a seal just the kind of liked it. I got for you definitely get beat down for that would make sense what we got man. Oh either way we yes. We are on the path So on this path not all of us are quite as durable or maybe we are out of note. But we've got supplementation chocolate fuel so we've got stuff rejoins joint warfare. We have a review. We have an automatic review. The rago has been drinking the dax savage drink. And what would what do you think. I'm addicted to. I formerly reasons one. Is that the taste of it because I was telling you earlier about those candies important. Those specific taste of candies. They were so ryan that you can actually trade this candy for between the kids and there was like a caramel white candy within the so this is it. This is the candy which always like dr pepper. When the first paper. I say holy shit. This is guy who doesn't here we can just go to the machine and get yourself well so that i love the taste so so it tastes like america. What i are you go. It's odd because on the way down here thinking about it you know like a regular We'll call it for lack of a better term. A traditional energy drink an old poisonous old drako. Exactly right so poisonous right. And here's the weird thing. Everyone knows that it's so weird. Everyone knows that like if they say okay. So let's just did some jitsu worked out or something you're like man. I'm thirsty or whatever you know. Let me go wherever. I need drinks. You like the. You're not going to the soda machine. Getting some soda pop. Getting energy like an energy drink traditional one prayer. That sounds like the last thing you want. Drink yeah but meanwhile meanwhile you can get a barucha kind in the mood for sometimes like right after a hard workout. It's actually good for you. But isn't it weird. How everyone just knows that. That energy drinks data known. It's a known mainstream radio crazy shit. Well if you want to get those if you wanna get some joint warfare for your joints if you wanna get krill oil for your joints if you want to get some. What vitamin d three. Which is all kinds of other also. Very good for you for many reasons. Malk which is protein disguised dessert true. Anyways you can get all the stuff at jaakko fuel dot com or you can get you can get the drinks at wa wa out on the east coast or you can get the stuff at the vitamin shoppe yet. All available there and consider getting the subscription so origin. Usa dot com. You wanna subscription the stuff. You can save some money free shipping by the way. Well that's kind of a big deal. It's not even a by the way it's almost the primary reason the primary reason is we don't wanna not have what we want when we need it. Yes but another good reason is it's expensive to ship stuff but if you subscribe shipping is free and that's cool boom and you get it every month or when you don't run out. No big thing does seem like a big thing but try out gonna know. It's going to be a big thing. Anyway or gene usa dot com. That's where you can sign up. Right was a subscription with origin. Or usa dot com. That's spot right there also at origin. Usa dot com is to stuff. So we've talked about briefly. We could've talked more but but effective but yeah you want some geeze american-made jeez rash guards other jujitsu stuff other athletic stuff to origin. Usa made in america by the way. So drago haven't really dove into this with you but we we are. We now have a company where we are making products in america were making digital geeze. Were making rash. Guards were making boots. Were making jeans or making everything in america. I know that. Because i as i was following on right on well. The freaking crazy thing is like like for instance jeans. Everyone gets a pair of whatever name brand and they think that they're getting an iconic american gene but they're not they're actually getting genes that are made in communist countries. That's where they're made so we don't like that. We like our genes to come from america by hard made by hardworking people so origin. Usa dot com. I yes also in that same sort of table director. Attention to store dot com. This is where you can get You know more apparel more representative directly of the path so spleen equals freedom. Good all these things we can get it. We have a subscription situation going on as well. It's a good one little bit different designs but still applicable just. Fyi so you can get this thing. It's called the sherlock if you want to get one of these cool t shirts. The here's the thing because there's a reason to bring this up with someone went online and was like that you posted something and they're like. Hey new these t shirts are on the store on jock door dot com and yes and no but right well explain yes so people do yes. They are jaakko but they're only through the subscription scenario the shirt locker. So that's the only place you can get them again like you do. I mean if you even care about like the difference or whatever is there. The designs are little bit. We'll just say a little bit more creative from time to time nonetheless You know there are a little bit different. They're cool they're fun. You will get a new one every month narratives there. You go You can subscribe to this podcast. You can subscribe some other podcasts. We've got the the unraveling podcast daryl cooper. We got the grounded podcast. Wore your kid podcast. There's new episodes out by the way. I was really slow in getting those out. 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Where echo puts videos up that he creates some new a conceptual ideas. Okay so if you're waiting for echoes. Conceptual ideas they should be produced within the next twenty four months because his work ethic is well. It's solid dude. It's not it's not varying levels of maybe should go home. Get in front of your editing suite and just go and maybe we'll get some more freaking video. Don't that's what that's what he's doing Legit arts actually is part of my a drag accelerated english as the main motivator people here that one time where their first born child. Is this good english psychological warfare. You can get that. On any mp3 platform we got flipside canvas flips dot com. My brother dakota meyer marine corps. He's got a company where he's making things to hang on your wall. We got a bunch of books. Okay the first book that i wanna talk to you about. Is the book that i started off this podcast. Today i took one little section. The book is called. And you're going to have to help me with all this drago. So the book is called camp. Posey the writer his name is how do i say it novel novel. So novel was a guy in the gum in the polish. Grom special operations guy. I don't know too much about him. Because i can't read polish but the book is available and i ordered it but i haven't gotten it yet is available on amazon. So if you wanna get this book look up. Can't posey and it. I i did look through it. There's pictures of osu because he was deployed with asking the. When you're there i was the up up. There's pictures of where we were. There's pictures of camp. Johnny posey which is freaking brings back all kinds of memories for us. How you're doing so much. Good work out of their bunch of pictures in it and you can get an english version. So check that out camp posey. Have you read it. Oh i have it. Our in both polish on amazon is very accurate. As i say i is. It gives you the perspective from the other other guys who are not part of the sales. But they're really good. They that they how they perceive seal teams how they see us. How would we do in iraq and how they work. So it's pretty good insight and perspective on seals from the different vantage point. And then what about this other book that you brought today which i haven't seen what's called this is the title of translation is in my thirteen years in the Gram okay so this is the. There's the my thirteen years. This guy say thirteen writers thirteen. That's exactly that's thirteen so as soon as rich moisture national voice grow. So that's what he said that. Oh i used to hear that over the switch that dial he'd be like rago sauce. You gotta think who settled ragu switch move so this guy was with that stupid. Yeah actually the hayman. The novel together. In i think the same time there. So this is Hero this book much earlier and the same age. He's view on the iraq war on the hour working together with sales. And that how the stink You know. I think it's very interesting. Especially if you want to look and about us about crc and how others perceive thousand other. Do you know if this is this book available on amazon apple nama zone and there's also a i will send you links It is also available in english on amazon and the and the english title is also thirteen years. Thirteen year yeah. A i'm just flipping through this one. This has got a bunch of pictures very that look very familiar as well. Yeah i mean those are pictures taken when we wear that freaking awesome all right so we got these books. Check these books out We drag on. I already talked about hopefully getting one of those guys or both. Those guys on the podcast. At some point they can come over here from poland. Or maybe what might we make an exception and do a not live like not face to face. We have never done that before. We never done. A virtual podcasts. Maybe we would do it for for poland. Skype wilson. Yeah we have one of them. I think it will be traveling here too. So that's all we need to know just by. That'll be awesome beef. Actually he could travel tau. He's perspective on iraq war why pollen got involved then why pollen was spending by our side in the war and why is standing by our side so good to hear from the that'd be awesome A bunch of other books too. I got a new book coming out called final spin. You can preorder right now if you want the first dish. I don't think we've talked about that yet on finals smith. If you want the first heavy you want that. I a dish. She mentioned it last time. I think but yet you didn't go look. Don't be coming up to me in sport ever when the book comes out two months after it comes out and you roll up to me. Hey jock i got your buck. And i look at it. I'm gonna know you're gonna know we're all gonna to. You got the second a dish preorder right now. Leadership strategy and tactics field manual the cold evaluation protocol discipline because freedom field manual way. War your kid. One two three and four. Check those out. Mike in the dragons which is which is apparently the best kids book ever. That's what i've heard and then about-face by david hackworth. I wrote a forward on a new version. Honored do that extreme ownership that economy leadership. That's the oh g. of jaakko books that are out with my brother lab and we got a consulting company. S l'enfant sean. Front dot com. We got f- online if you want online. Virtual training go online dot com. If you want to come see us live stream ownership dot com. We got three events this year because we're having three events this year. So if you wanna come. Extreme ownership dot com. It's a leadership leadership. Seminar live in person. We also have an event coming up called f battlefield where we walk the battle of gettysburg. We walk the battlefield there and talk about the lessons that were learned if unbelievable event we sold we we we were only gonna do one. We sold it out. We're doing to now. Hopefully so if we can get things scheduled. We're going to make that happen to chalon front dot com slash events. If you wanna come to that and if you want to help servicemembers active and retired if you wanna help their families if you want to help gold star families checkout mark lease mom. She has her own organization. And if you want to help you want to donate you. Want to get involved. Go to america's mighty warriors dot org and if you want to hear more from us which is highly unlikely at this point but if you want to. You can find us on the interwebs on twitter on instagram on facebook. Echo is at echo charles. I am out jaakko willink. Now if you wanna talk to drago he's not on those platforms and his his free. Speech has been suppressed. But don't worry. He's on the underground. He's making things happen. You can check him out at connect zing dot com. I'm also on there now too because well if drug was there and he's hanging out And i'm going to be hanging out to echo. You got any final thoughts. No that's it and then good to see you again. We met briefly downtown nightclub days with my good friend. Jeremy and he He introduced me to bat longtime ago. Like almost twenty years like longtime go say hi to him this great guy and Yeah amana. I remember drug house. Like he seems very nice but he probably get not so good to see thank you again and that it was great to be here drug already any other closing thoughts man. I see maybe smoking making small prey on our mind for those guys who are no longer with us. The maybe a few seconds of silence one of them. Yeah i don't know when this podcast is is actually coming out but Today is is march twentieth. Today is is mark lee's birthday and i mean just an incredible incredible incredible seal incredible husband incredible son and miss him and the rest of the boys every day. So happy birthday to mark and drago man. Thanks for your service. Thanks for your service to the teams. Thanks for your service to the navy. Thanks for having my back countless times. And thank you for your service to america and beyond that thanks for your service to the ultimate cause of freedom in the world. You can't repay freedom that's people are asking me thank you. This is the other way around. Jack who actually i had this me. Who spurs to say. Thank you to you to you to wherever america for my freedom what i did in teams in the navy is just a token support for you cannot repay freedom you have. Freedom is not for sale is not there is nothing you can do to reciprocate that freedom that that we that i got from america i'm free man and as awesome feeling is something that i will never be able to reply pay and Just i believe that. Just keep serving in any capacity. I can to our great america is important so i'm gonna done yet finished my military career but i'm still serving. I'm still want to make america a better place. Well i'll mend that and I i know. I will always be proud to call you brother and to all the other people out there especially those that are out there wearing the cloth of the nation. Thank you for protecting the most precious thing that we have. And that is our freedom and the same goes for police. Law enforcement firefighters paramedics. Emt's dispatchers correctional officers border patrol secret service and all the other first responders out there. Thank you for protecting us here at home and everyone else just remember that freedom is not free and we cannot take it for granted. Four there is evil. In the world there is oppression in the world and we must be on guard for a four -tarian and tyrannical leaders and like drago. We must be willing to stand up and fight for our freedom and until next time this drago and echo and jaakko out.

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Interview: Dean DeBlois, the Director of the How To Train Your Dragon Trilogy

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19:19 min | 2 years ago

Interview: Dean DeBlois, the Director of the How To Train Your Dragon Trilogy

"Hello, everyone and welcome to slash daily. For February twenty second two thousand nineteen today's episode. We're gonna bring you a chat with the director of the how to train your dragon trilogy. This is slash editor in chief Peter Saretta a couple of weeks ago, I was able to see how to train your dragon the hidden world. This is the latest film in the how to train your dragging franchise from DreamWorks animation. And this is the last one guys. This is the conclusion of the trilogy. It is an emotional in epic end to this storyline. And I've really enjoyed it a heavily recommend you. Check it out in theaters. I was able to visit the DreamWorks animation campus in Glendale, California. It's kind of like this hidden away SIS amongst the concrete jungle that is Los Angeles. And I got to go into dean's office and talk with him about that the the trilogy is a whole this interview doesn't. Really give any spoilers for this film. So you don't really have to worry about that. We talk about a bunch of things we talk about how he was able to craft in the story in how it evolved from the beginning to now the comparisons to Star Wars, which he's a big fan of we talked to Boda the trouble with the sequels in how I intimated franchises the characters don't physically usually grow or age in any way. The original idea for the second movie that was abandoned is actually probably the most interesting part of this chat. So stick around for that. And he talks about making audiences cry working with gear Modell Toro, who is consultant entering works. And drew Strossen who has produced some fantastic posters to this franchise. And he talks about his hopes of making a live action film next and a possible dragons theme park ride, and we also I also talk about avatar and how that impacted this franchise. So all that more in this interview. Here is dean do blouse the director of the how to train your dragon trilogy. First of all, I love the movie. Yeah. Thanks. It's really a beautiful conclusion to this franchise. What do you think? So. How much of the dragon trilogy was mapped out at the beginning. If we're talking about the first film, Chris Anderson, I jumped onto that at really late in the game. Like, we had fifteen months before it's releasing theaters. So and they wanted. Of a reworking of the story from the start. So that was a very intense and focused effort to get a movie that worked up on screen, and there was no thought of sequels or franchise or anything not until the movie went out there and actually performed for the studio. And then they said Chris had gone back to working on the cruise that point. And I was tasked with coming up with ideas for sequel, and and due to my general allergy to sequels, I said, what if what if we did a trilogy because that we could do three acts of one story we could draw upon some unanswered questions in the first movie, but but tell the story of this, you know, Viking rent narrative well to the wise selfless Viking chief that he was destined to be loosely inspired by his his in the books. So that we could get to that moment with the opening narration of crescent CAL's first book their dragons when I was a boy, I thought something really? Emotional about that. But it suggests suggest the end of an era, the disappearance of dragons and all the mystery emotion attached to that idea. Yeah. So yeah, are are. At that point. Then it was talking about and in three acts the only condition that I was given by Jeffrey Katzenberg at the time was that every one of the installments had a stand alone. It wasn't reliant upon the previous film, and we couldn't have cliffhangers they had they had to work independently. And taylor. Say feel like the second one has very like entire strikes back feel to it. Even though there. Oh, that's huge problem. Thank you. That was certainly an inspiration and tone. Yeah. So when starting this film are you're working back from the ending of we need to find out. Why the diner why the dragons disappeared? Yes. Exactly. Like if hiccup if if he does become, you know, the the season wise chief how could how could his ascension into that role be accompanied by the disappearance of dragons. And and Furthermore, could it be his decision? What would have led to that? You know for a guy that's all about. Pounding this idea of coexistence into his own people in anyone who will listen how does that guy go to embrace this idea of separating? Yeah. Yeah. It's also very interesting that in the medium of animation usually with franchises. You don't get to see the characters grow up over time. Like sure he gets the Indian Toy Story. But the main that's the only example. Yeah. Yeah. I can't think of any other characters that have grown up on screen, especially TV like Simpson's are the same as a little bit different. It's almost it's almost an animated convention. You know that you can live timelessly in this in this world as as sequels and TV series develop that characters never even changed. Clothes never mind. Yeah. So why did you decide to take them in this dry or leave them off where you do is like it was a practical consideration because at its core for story to be worth telling you need a character who has who has to undergo some sort of transformation. And if you look at hiccup in the first movie, he by the end of it. He gained everything he was after he has his father's love the admiration of the town the attention of asteroid the coolest dragon. He ends age old war. Like, this is a character. Without a problem. That's all movies that have sequels, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because then it becomes a very sort of surface level issue. You know, like somebody stole my car. Yeah. That becomes the next sort of pointless adventure with the same five or six characters. I wanted to avoid that. So I thought by advancing the clock and bream eating hiccup at a point. Where he's facing another universal problem. One one that we're all going to have to go through this transition from from youth in care free abandoned into adulthood with consequence the search right entity with two overbearing, parents it that felt to me like something that a lot of people can relate to and it was an inner problem as much as it wasn't external one of the most interesting things to me. There's an awesome office office. We literally moved into days ago. So it's we got kicked out of our production area on the fifth floor of that other building. Start worst yet to be impact. Yeah. Factory there. One of the most interesting things about innovation. I think is the development processes so long. And especially you hear these stories like how the things have changed over time. So I'm wondering how this film change from the original idea that you had for when you started developing this third film in the franchise to what it is. Now. Well, if we go back to the second movie volcano was meant to be the originally the meant to be the the sympathetic antagonist of that movie. In other words, up met her in the same way that he did and was amazed by her to find out there's another dragon rider who who's even more steeped in the world of dragons. But her fundamental core. Belief was that humans could not be trusted in the dragons needed to be protected from them and that ran against hiccups desire to teach people to get along with dragons. So toward the end of the original version of the second movie, she she flew to Burke to extract the dragons to get them to safety because this unknown force to be reckoned with blog. Drago blood vist was coming, but he really wasn't going to be a strong presence until the third movie. And it was hiccup fighting on mother to protect his way of life on Burke, and she leaves defeated but convinced that he will have to make a decision and that was to set up her return in the third. Good movie in the third act when Drago did come crashing upon the shores of Burke with all of his might she flew back in as having thought about it. And and been converted to his way of thinking she flew back into his strongest ally with with her army of dragons. So that was fundamentally changed because the really it was just the relationship of the mother who was going to be problematic with our audience and having young kids turn to their their moms in say, why is his mother his mother fighting him why she taking away the dragons. So that arc was collapsed. It meant that Drago came into the second movie in kind of a one dimensional way, you know, because he was just this brute, but the the ambition. So now, I'm getting third movie. The MVP was actually to have Drago are in the in the third movie originally he was going to have survived the defeat at the end of the second movie and find himself marooned on an island, you know, in pile of wreckage with. Home to a very aggressive territorial dragon that that wanted to see him dead. And so once drug realized that he had been succeeded in his own in his own Armata by this character, named grim l- he was determined to get back there and reassert his his position the only way off the island was to prevent that. Dragon. And so it was this kind of, you know, headstrong tit for tat, you know, trying to figure out this how how to earn the respect and trust with his dragon and in doing so he develops this kind of this affection before before it. So that when he finally flies into the third act battle. He lands on the side of the dragon riders and ends up. You know, showing some steps toward redemption. It was it was just a story that was going to require far too much care and feeding and time. Yeah. In order to do it. Right. And we knew that we had the focus on hiccup and the new element of. Toothless in his call the wild that it was a fortunately just an element that had to be lopped off. Yeah. Do you feel bad making everyone cry? No for me. It's victory. In fact, my my cut of my pet peeve is when people say to me, oh, I was so moved I almost cried. 'cause I actually I feel like personal Pang of defeat in that statement. It's like saying, you almost succeeded. So if someone cries I feel great that was the intention we want we want to create a a roller coaster of emotion. Move people to laughter and tears. So if we get the tears, I'm especially proud, you got my tears, thank you. He's still toros still consulting with the features here. And I haven't seen him around. I think he does have a consulting deal. But the last time I saw Ghirma was a few years back. I mean in relation to DreamWorks. I went to go meet him at at bleak house, and he had read an early script for this movie. And he was you know, he's he's always very generous with his. Time. And he he was just talking. You actually inspired me to just get a little more connected with my interfere boy. And he said he pointed out this is such a rare opportunity to to get to trilogy. And and he said just go for, you know, tap put everything of onscreen that you've ever wanted to see don't w so slavish to the the continuity. What's the story behind the jerus- Jerusalem posters because there was one Comecon for the last one? And then there's some that were put online, but we don't even know where those are going. Yeah. Yeah. You talking to him about this last night. He was at our crew party. Well, I approached drew back on dragon to telling him, I I would love him to do a poster for us. And we got the okay from the marketing department to to come up with the money for it. But then he got sick. So he he did a couple of rough cops and one of them. He just gave to me. And that's the one we reproduced in and you know, gave to fans at comic con that year. And then he recovered and happily started in doing his own work and happy in his retirement, but I invited him to see a screening of the movie here himself and and Dylan his wife, and they really responded strongly cried. And. Said I would love it. You know, it's my dream if you'd ever consider doing triptych for us, and he agreed to do it. He came out of retirement, and he painted these incredible posters on you know, they're their full size and their glorious. And yeah, there's a little tease in Penn dangle. But we're still figuring out. What point we're going to, you know, print them up? Nice and big and on high quality stock and make them available to fans. Yeah. I definitely want. What is next for you? I mean, this has been a long this has been like almost ten years of your life, right? Yeah. Ten years ten years. It's the end of a decade, and I'm really proud of it. But I'm also eager to get back to other projects that have been sitting on the back burner. And and hopefully, hopefully do something in live action at some point. I veteran because you've done some music video stuff. Right. Yeah. And and I I sold three movies to write and direct back in the years between Leland stitch and jumping onto half. Dragon. And you're talking about banshee and yet. Yeah. Lighthouse and sightings and those were movies that got stalled to changes in presidency at studios. So I would love to, you know, pick up where we left off on a couple of those and bring them to fruition or, you know, jump onto something that that I feel connection with that somebody's making. It's it's all wide open. I just want to take a little vacation clear my hand in. I understand that. But those three are live action. Yes off are very cool. The other thing I wanted to ask you is like the series has such contesting world building. When are we going to get like a theme park ride? We can that's the dream, right? I remember back on Mulan chrysanthemums. And I joking that if we if we ever made it to like, a Disney like icecapades special, you know. That would be that would be like true success like we made it to an ice show. But yeah, now in this world to be to be like like, you know, Harry Potter esque theme park. Attraction would be amazing. It makes sense to flying on the dragging like being in the theater for the first. And I think this one flying. I've never felt like that in any other movie like feeling the feeling of flight. Well, that's great. Yeah. I mean, we we definitely tried to make it feel as visceral as we could within the confines of a movie theater, but agree with you and inadvertent kind of virtual like proper ride format that'd be really impressive. Yeah. Plus, it'd be cool just to visit. You know, the the why I totally agree. Go talk to somebody. Tell them you want it. I I wanted to ask you avatar came out like a year before your first film came out. And you you made a trilogies since one phone they just like five you've made a trilogy. I'm just wondering how how did avatar influence or not influence the series because they has dragons mythical elements bioluminescence. Yeah. Kind of affected that have on your friendship. Well, I remember seeing the first trailers come out, and we saw the band she's flying around and we found out now we're gonna look like copied him. He'd been at it for we'd working on the movie for fifteen months, and we were wrapping up as they were releasing. So it's a we knew we had our flight sequences, and we hoped that they would stand apart from all of the all of the the excitement that was gathering around avatar. And then when it came to designing the hidden world, we were also really conscious of the fact that avid. Did bioluminescence. So well that that if we were going to include it, we had to make it feel different you know, and unique onto itself. So I'm in terms of color palette, and our use of it within the tunnels connect, these larger spaces we wanted it to be almost like a black light effect that would actually cause the dragons flying through to reveal their own patterns. And and to have you know, when you when you talk about something that feels magical within our understanding of geology and be in biology on this planet there there are only certain things like phosphorescent and bioluminescence and crystal crystal caverns that might be carrying light from Deavere magma veins. We were talking about like, a salty atmosphere because the all that water spilling in interacting with lava would create a steamy atmosphere in which coral could actually grow mid air. And these were all things that were. You know, we're we were trying to make our own to do very version of a world that wasn't that didn't feel like an avatar rip off. So hopefully, hopefully, that's not the the immediate instinct. But I I could see if. Yeah. Because it's such a strong iconic imprint of pen Dora that that you know, people might could make that connection. Well, thank you very much. Thank you. Shit it. Well, there you have it dean to blouse the director of the how to train your dragon franchise. I am excited to see what he does next in his transition to live action films. You can find this whole interview at tasha Mecom linked in this show. Dotes you could find me all over the web. If you searched slash film on any social media. You can find me there this podcast slash dailies published every weekday on itunes, Google, overcast Spotify all the popular podcast apps. Please feel free to send your feedback questions. Comments concerns to us at Peter at slash home dot com, and please leave your name general geographic location in case. We mentioned the Email on the air in please head on over to I tunes fades, give us a five star rating right as a couple of sentences. 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The Ground Floor - Top 10 TV Shows

Hotel Nerd Network

25:06 min | 3 months ago

The Ground Floor - Top 10 TV Shows

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Twenty one for ten percents off your order All right guys Starbucks glare back here. I'm new laptop and everything's new layout on trying to figure out her turn dark mode on on and hell to so bear with me. Apologies for glare though I find it to be extremely annoying on bali wells. Well but other. Or by digress Welcome back to another episode of the ground floor today. We're going to be doing the top. Ten tv shows a my liking. And if my top doesn't add your top ten in the comments put your tent. Let me know if you're listening to this on Podcast format semi a message. Go to anchor that look up Hotel nerd her back. I will give you that absurd now. Just go to anchor dot. Fm backslash hotel owner and you send me a message you can send me a voice message and you can do donations and the whole nine right there on anchor. So if my top doesn't match your top ten let me now send reviews the. Let's have a conversation i would like to do. One of these live on these days. 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Said we will get the show under oath and this is going to be a quick one as undoing us extremely late night and early in the morning for my daughter. So let's get right to it. Number ten is the x. Files it you grew up in the there are to show three shows that you heard of like religiously x-files power rangers in simpson's those are three shows. You heard of in the nineties and this is the one show that excited to call it quits In a decent time Last tuesday seasons. I can remember assess Last two seasons of work net gray The reboot i guess. Continuation wasn't that great that they'd About five or six years ago god. It's been that long forgotten. It just seemed like it was yesterday. They drive to do this. But this one will actually pry pop up another episode. Where i do. Tv shows overstay their welcome. Leave the x. Files is one of the shows that overstayed their welcome. If not in the top ten. It'll definitely be an honorable mention It it should have went out sooner. Data did so. That's why it's number ten on this Us the higher than the x. Files basil leave. The nineties supernatural and when you get down to number nine currently running chicago. Pd part of the chicago family. You'll see chicago says popped up white often on my list on tv. I not support But i do like shegog abedian chicago. Fire drago. Fire was the one that started everything inch doug ebeidi was spun off of that and chicago. Med spun off both fire. Mp was or show that lasted tonight season. It was call law and it didn't do very well is the driest dry shows that was out there and they deeming give it a whole season. If i remember correctly anyone you don't so so we got the chicago. Pd fire. med still going. And your teenage mutant ninja turtles up until about Might be three seasons now He's jones was featured prominently on the show. The original teenage mutant ninja turtles. Movie he He played solanki was his name was first name right now. But he a hang voids best friend in the shell until they wanna and Wrote him off not gonna say how. Because i'm not gonna spoilers because the show is due damn good the oil and onto number eight the west wing not be local but this was a by is a political show. So i mean jonah do give political swing but with this show in particular the cast was amazing yet martin sheen rob blow Yeah John spencer rested. Giants answer was absolutely amazing. Zaki johnson answers lots show. China remember. Who plays sam. That really liked him as a actor. I can't think of who he is right now. Say mmmm light and Needed even though people can't remember the names of right now because i've happen stupor because iron. This this cast is just not a you. Look this casts up. Just google go with cast. This gas is amazing. This gases watching this cast is powerhouse and they made for some great tv some very funny moments to a very powerful moments as well but yeah gives us wanna go but your politics aside just watch it enjoy it. It was good better tv. I missed that one. It was on. I watched it was on that on. Hbo max now. By the way if you're interested in watching so give it a go. It is a good one as a really good bench to by the way it was binge worthy before binging as a late nineties early two thousands show just as winter reference. Walking dead at number seven ceo. What you will walking dead says ups and downs right now is in the down because we have the extra episodes and people are white van of by yet. Remember they're doing these extra episodes they don't have gotten they're just extra tacked on episodes with their unique to the show. It is proves anything for anybody says that we should continue doing walking dead after commonwealth This year if you don't like he's episode. This year proves that the walking dead will not do well with tv exclusive storylines like or that'll main storyline. I mean i know. They've had individual storylines that evan like second or third tier story lines. That are tv series by Actually had the whole narrative exclusive. Tv series is not our And these episodes prove that's not gonna work do not like these episodes so by pandemic given us the opportunity to. Here's neagh episode. That one will not beauty to tv. Show that one. If you're familiar with colleagues we have a common for that. The comic is absolutely fucking amazing. An episode i am so looking forward. To and from my understanding is the finale episode of these additional episodes. They're giving us so next. One is for animal lovers. If you're not. I am a lover you probably. You may have heard of this Show 'cause it's in the top three of the current generation of animators now and that is my hero getting you. We are five seasons in around or going into the fifth season or seasons in four the horse the ended on super superhero And left a lot of questions to be answered the season. So this'll be very interesting to see how this works out. If you're a fan of the show and you read the books you know what's coming next anyway. So what's nice about. The show is even though you mean next is presented to beaker. Beat and okay. We're back in so if you haven't watched the show your animate fan. What are you do it on a watch. it is not that much To watch right now for four seasons in probably around heating one hundred episodes launch. It's worth it is very very much. Well worth it in on the so Just go watch it. That's only the nuggets number. Five is the second of chicago trilogy. Watchi- is the granddaddy. oh mall Chicago fire this show is so good. And you're you're so ecedented these characters prime morrison you ever would be l. e. e. or chicago med. Because you're you've been around with these guys since the start of chicago shows Day chicago franchise But yeah I would definitely say give this go and just watch it. I want to say more but there's so much that happens in chicago fire that i don't want to spoil anything because there are so many interns. The chicago fire's razi. Just turns are what was that. We're halfway through the less we're going to take about a fifteen. The forty five second break and we'll be back momentarily. Welcome rwanda hotel nerd network brought to you by anchor was anchor. You say is an easy way to make a podcast like this one for free. That's right. I sat for free but not only that you can record from the comfort of your home on the pc or on the go with your phone. They have everything you need to make a podcast one place. The best feature is that they even distribute podcasts for you on multiple platforms so you don't have to stress on getting your content out there for the world here for free and easy way to make a podcast. Download the anchor app on your mobile device or go to anchor down to get started. Now please back and enjoy the show in. we're back So now we got through chicago fire and we move on to number four in that is twenty four and depending on how twenty four finishes out that abbasi's in lopped season nine only episodes overseas So i have a season lost twenty. Four twenty four finishes out will determine where is truly ends landed on my less right now set number four. It was number three and then so far with Season white sold on it. I think it should have ended it season seven So we'll see. Maybe i'm wrong. Maybe it will surprise me but twenty four is pretty. Good you for sutherland I'll be honest. I haven't really seen him in anything else than young guns. I think he was in flatliners. Think correct me. If i'm wrong but i think he was or was that amelia west of us. One of them was flatliners and amelia. Us was admission and mighty ups but then he her. I don't remember seeing him. Roh-myung guns in anything. That's seen him in twenty four. And i think flatliners before that and i know he was in designated survivor so but most other people. I don't know in this series Was season one How should played milo Can they was name saved my life. He played Name was patchett in haven on sci-fi stephen king adaptation of the cowboy kid or colorado kid. So i was name. I notice against his name. And he's an off and on throughout series. john voids and about half of the season The guy that recruits necklace caging on sixty seconds. They're movie he's in her about quarter of a season giving his name. Either there's a. There's a lot of heavy hitter. Names in this franchise they they paid big bucks for some of these people share but yeah twenty four definitely wanted to watch another animates title attack on titan currently in its final season and final season has been amazing and sadly as it stands right now. They're sixteen episodes during our two to the vinyl season to season or we probably are as the end of the monge arc. ends next month in anime form. Let's of oily oily. Pest invested many many many many many years of my time show and if they shed on us royally best it has definitely off of my top. Ten that'll be probably go from number three. Go to like ninety five on my list of anime. Because i've seen at least over one hundred forty anime titles primary in the nineties if they should the dead and they don't give us the end the net. We deserve elise. Let us know. You're gonna continue on anything. I asked leveson. Are you're going to continue. And it means that we get like a sixteen episode final arc of the final season than great than that means the finals. Thirty two episodes but if you only sixteen episodes in you at a really shitty spot than and you don't announce that we're gonna continue now. I'm now lose me. Number two are This was a mid nineties. George clooney really outgoing George sloan before he is batman. This is where it really kicked off I remember there is a lot of other names. Noah wyle is ns Do what's her name From ncis new orleans plays the the medical examiner Cc pounder cj allender like that She's in this which actually got it. Threw me back when i watched. Er i couples. I saw are like. Oh i didn't realize before There's a lot of heavy hitters that started here Or shows a started here as much as a got noticed here. And i'm like on the rest of them does is late so finally or the ground floor. Actually this is going to be about the normal episode added. I'm looking at it. I've tried to make it short. Sorry is the ground floor. This gotta be mash. I can watch. I don't care what season it is. I can watch match at. I sit down like and just watch ours ours ours of mash and just be thoroughly entertained with alan alda and the rest gassed. The job served rate. They'd take heavy material keen in finale on my god. I've only seen him once. Finale who as sticks with you especially when he's lying away in a helicopter woo chills just thinking about it rape finale. Probably the best finale actually in history. I don't see him on top of that anytime soon in haven't stopped it since By that that's the ground floor stop ten. Tv shows that. I've seen so thank you for watching and please join us next week when we do top ten worst television shows that i've ever seen so what that have yourself a good night and we'll get you next week.

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Significant Deaths of 2019 Part 1

How Many Podcast

1:09:38 hr | 1 year ago

Significant Deaths of 2019 Part 1

"In how many how many how many how many one two three five six nine p what I get up to welcome everyone to a new episode of how many the only podcast on the Internet that counts I am. Am One of your host. Jesse Jackson joining US tonight. Is Junior Bob Ascott. That's right. It's the core group today. I know special guest stars. No surprise Ozzy's days. No lyles we're just back to the core playing some of our greatest hits. That's right a you know. Everyone likes the new stuff but sometimes you just wanted to play the hits. You know what our audience likes right and they love movies so we always have to give them a double shot every so I have compiled for us. The significant deaths that have occurred. I heard the first part of two thousand nineteen spanning from January to the end of June so July and August as even over reporting in August. We are going to exclude until the next deaths episode. Did you bring your picture of your. I got the photos of my door. So horned Yeah we would iger no rutger Hauer. Those will be part of the next session for without. I haven't the research I feel like there's a couple that are GONNA go. Wow that's a pretty severe but it feels just my without the research not a big your desk so far. Yeah you're saying the deaths have been look. I mean he's still he's still with us. I show you some real shine on us again. They seem connected though that a solid. That's solid that is that is an eight plus humor there so I what day are we starting for. Starting January one into the end of June Jan January one nineteen. Yes junior okay so this we always get this wrong. We don't do enough so well before you give your predictions in your sports I will give you a baseline okay four span that timeframe I have ninety names for us to review. So I'M GONNA go forty Jesse. You are forty s Bob. I'M GONNA say very for cooking now. Scott you kind of already do the research like you said you have the wall. You'd get full of kids. Scratch names often already kind of have your own base mind in your mind but based based on this ninety baseline how many are you. I'm going to go. Thirty third always with the Lowest Score Mentor four group. Is it pessimistic missteps or is it about us. He's he's rooting for life. So it's an optimistic viewpoint So if I had not done the research I probably would have been in the fifty range. Okay now you you. Can't Dan Answer. 'cause you've done the research with Scott how do you do you feel like and you might know a little bit too. Because you're looking at. Your Wall is because last year we lost the president. We Lost Stanley ARETHA Franklin I mean there were though I got some really big ones with prince. David Bowie would see after this this year. I would say it doesn't have that much in weight to the wild star. Power is still sad on not saying it's the more yes before you're not giving the book is larger funeral homes for their services in smaller crowds. I will be attending this people on my wall that I don't think you guys would vote for I I would. I don't think you guys would end. And judging by why that that's why the the lower makes sense parts. Let's generate slow going in January and these are in any chronological world within the month so they could die at the beginning of the month. And you've got your to your county keeping count a first name. James Ingram musician he saying ooh yes he just was maybe to my funeral somewhere. We're out there which was the so as Bob like to say likes to say? On James Ingram's Yom will be dead was the alternate it titled to his songs. We solid yes. I think James Ingram Sean. We'll see the some where air KRONSTADT. Yeah Oh yes. So he is a yes. Absolutely I agree was all my door because he he was beginning to I realize ever heard on James Ingram. Okay okay the next one. Michelle or Michael. The grand he was an Oscar winning composer he composed does the music for Mental Thomas Crown Affair. Yeah we're GONNA Austria winning. I understand we have but yeah we're GONNA makes them memorial areas. Would yeah okay. We'll get him and know how about reality. Btv Reality Star Foot Thima Ali who was on top chef now name ring any bells. Well how are only that. Let's see have I joe. Andreas Hugh Director. She was a director. She correct black kite but the reason I put her on here was she was married to Nutty Thompson. Steve seamy overview. Yeah about that now. You don't recognize big marriage so even though you're having adequate nettie she was not enough of a nickname role to this. Listen I know how about Kevin Barnett. who was a comedian and was on the TV? Show relle that that sound familiar to anybody. He doesn't know. How about Kaye Ballard? TV actress was on a show called the mothers-in-law with this sounds. Much larger woman black hair. I I get stars I heard yes but I won't argue with you guys. Go now Jesse your yes guy ever heard the name sounds familiar but I can't correct. Yeah she's the then I'm going to say no as well. Okay how about Tony Mendez. You you wouldn't. He was a spider in the Iran. Hostage Crisis I am was the basis of the film argo argue after yourself. Aw Great Film. Thank you for his service but don't know who played him in the movie. Venable Ben Affleck is he counts but not tell me on the loud. That's that's chocks shocks for. Sure he was going to make the cut. Okay so we'll say no one him. How about Andy Vaj? Ah Film producer. He produced all the Rambo Movies and movie of veto. Now now do you remember that guy's name being sick lapidary during the credits Golan Globus okay. So we'll say no for him. How about Mary Oliver? She was an author shears. Appoint anybody familiar with her. Find work over tonight. How about Carol channing? Aggressive Chris Okay so she is a yes how about. I would bet gone like that was Okay this one is going to hit me involve especially the great eight Bob Super Day out from is a catastrophic yes loss he is on the S. and there's going to be a new this season two curves. I wonder how they're going to handle his debt house. Larry going to make some kind of sticking his funeral. I'm Shirley ask it's been a fall over the bodies. Kirby's is gonNA start playing her. Well how about Daryl Dragon the past. Yes most definitely right yes The last one for January. The great mean Jean Oberland pro wrestling against me then round mission absolutely in much the wrestling community would mean. Jean was pretty well. Anyone grant ever heard he was no gordon solely. But I'll do the Great Gordon solely. He was the guy who did all year to us on the Atlanta doesn t yes wrestling. which was the wrestling of my with dusty Rhodes and on yards? No that was vice. Were here that was Atlanta. So they were there was no cross although they have a free birds when you go back and forth between those regions but guess well Scott. It sounds like you're outvoted on this one. My guessing means did not make along along the only January participant that made the wall was Heavy Neil a young. Why why are we gonNA solid? rided is backup singer for years. I in respect your loss but I would say here's my goal. Is that who she was but I would also put her. In the city's he's wife can't let her fame and Jesse's going to read the new one for this but when pay south ago's same category your known your famous because you did. Projects were bulb which is different from when Sandra Lock Guide. Right on the mark yes she was kind of around. I actually was going to use the same example. You'd make a slight argument that had escaped LA member of the Band Season The rock and Roll Hall of fame as a member with the band and she joined it before they're married yes but by and she said two so loud was but by far she is best known as the mother of Jessica Springs. Yeah and so I would still roughly years ears are now. We'll have that discussion before we leave me gene. He does he count more than gene gene. The dancing machine seen yet. He was greatness. Gene gene is he is he. Has He passed a couple years ago because he was in great shape. I'm shocked NELGA. Okay okay so leading January moving into February. Nary we start with Andre Previn. Yeah an Oscar. Winning composer married to Mia Farrow. Sudanese dad or just. I adopted dad before I alpha wheeled you're familiar so you're yes very weak very weak yes. I'm not going to. Because of the music industry for years but he he made no ripple in my model year. And I'm in now. It will be a no two or all right Andy Anderson Drummer for the Robertson. Say Robert Smith is really the only person in a cure that would count right. How about him? Count for that or for being the Vikings Andy Anderson. Oh all right how about the Great Katherine Helmond actress. whose loss soap and a very nice? No work needed Eh Ryan born in galveston dislike. That's neat that's right. Yeah absolutely I'll give Jersey wasn't on my door but I get all right AIDS Helman's mayonnaise a a Stanley donen. He's director he directed on the town singing in the rain. Funny face seven brides for seven brothers movies right Louise Yeah I would vote for him because of his body of work gets them in the name. Recognition doesn't off your yesterday for the Talgo ahead. Yes it is reality. TV off no snow. Why out Clark James Gable Novotel? Harvey'll the bills grandson art gable's grandson hosted cheaters so reality TV. So even the lineage of developing get him in so Scott in your now. I'm up I would say no because it's the principle but not a chance. I remember what was weird about that. Is that his dad was able to year and Clark Gable. Junior was born after Clark Gable senior died so hard capable so posthumous birth yes uh-huh. He filled up. The Mamas Mamas moneymaker they checked out the everyone. Jack froze is it yet I know I. Ah He's the only one that we counsel Boston Raw. Wouldn't count anyway. I tastes all all right so this one I believe will be first ballot. Peter Tork hands inventor of no no no Now she oh Bob set when he died. Now we're all breeders. Yes they they took the last casket to get to there. I thought you were with the liquid paper. Absolutely maybe percents All right so peter definitely yes. He's the only one of the World Michael kind of but he was really one was actually musician. Desolate was investment was to where they he actually Dolan's was Mexico digs Jones for two singers goals. Also eight generals. Wasn't anybody joined the monkeys. Yes he think he was but he was. He was jungle dumbledore circus boy circus. Boy Yes he was circus. Voice Jones was is not a Baltimore. Baltimore Song Oh Whoa Whoa. WHOA WHOA WHOA and Tarzan boy? Everybody does well okay. Moving on Beverley Owen. TV actress Mary the Munster she was Marilyn. She was original Pat Priest rivals. The elway says she was Maryland season. One okay. Let's use originals. Usually Retail Maryland. That enough enough to get hurt wants to be the second Maryland okay. So she's a no how `bout crawl laggers Feld designed Canal Fendi huge. So you're yeah. Yeah I'm in no he's he doesn't make a ripple in my life. I never heard of the guy. I haven't either. Wow I'll defer. Yeah I mean. He's huge perfumes and stuff named after the guys saw the V.. One for discounting probably more like the GEICO. Okay so that was by you WANNA use an exemption okay so definitely Tov said that. How about this? One may have a little controversy to Bruno. Ganz he was an actor and he wasn't either bad nine forty eight hours now. That scans the reason he's on here is because is everybody familiar with the viral video. WPRO were Hitler is raising up here. That's really Hitler in that video where they always put in these funny subtitles does when he's yelling at his cabinet members. Those artists goes are hilarious. Like I promised her springsteen's tickets Adrienne. In which Hitler has more sick again where the creature Bruno Ganz. Ah Yes and I bet you Bruno Ganz has more views on his videos and preacher. That's because he gets he gets reused over over and over and over. Yeah so many different subjects do so. Is that enough. I would say yes just because I loved that stick and how creative yeah I mean. I guess we'd have to say he would be included in Memoriam. Nice so your yes Bob Scott. He wasn't on your wall from Olympia. Because I didn't know that Ellie wasn't so we talked a little Scott Outvoted I'm going to say yes guys just don't want me to ask purposely padding okay. How about Carmen men who is an actor? He was in Stargate. St One. So Jesse. I assume it's the sci-fi shake me take the Jay Z.. Made that show arguing. Who who do you play? I have no idea who he plays a bit player. Oh Yeah S. P. One I don't know who is that. The one where James Spader was at the best of me Yeah Kurt. Russell was in the movie but I had not familiar with the TV show. We can circle back to that one if you got I'm looking at the face. Do not recognize the He was the commander. No No. No not the commander. He was one of the guys filer. That's right now so he's no then right okay. I think this will count. How about Albert Finney any garbage crossing scaife awe and he was Anne he was a day where books but his role is about aww explaining their the greatness of looker? That movie is so awesome. Also has the great noodles getting paralyzed airline by the Flash Gun. That is a great movie so yeah definitely I remember yes. That's there's a lot of whipping on that movie. Okay how about Kristoff. Saint John TV actor on the young restless soap opera and he was on the batteries barriers series of triggers. My remember seeing that guy yes sounds like no I mean I know of them pretty spare. I'm GONNA say now. Now Scott Jess Hey. I'm looking at Lucci and pretty much the only career so actor actress to WHO's GonNa Count. Uh Okay Hey hey my niece. She's fiance turns which we will discuss in the next reporting session discussed movies okay. I think this one's going to be a first ballot. How about John Michael? Bits and I asteroid air walk he was in pooper. Scooper hate the world's greatest athlete glistening in the greatest role when he was on Lake Week on danger island. TV shower gauge island was a little series that they played on the was. Was it. Banana Split. Yes that's that's hard for our guests and then you'd have like this little five or six minute serial of danger. Uh I it's kind of like what they ended up doing with crossing Mardi Gras for the head of the short great. Yeah Geez you know. He was see so cool and was so wheels off at the end of his life. So bad yeah definitely answer. It definitely was four wheels off of a hyphenated Scandinavian heritage Sony. John Ericsson Eric. The guy that not enrolled on the air will show again using something he was. General Vincent was there with the movie right over there on the TV show. Yes all right so moving on. Let's look at Julie Adams actress. She was the chicken the creature from the Black Lagoon. Who the one? That was screaming whenever the fish soup man came and and fortunately that was the non-romantic versus the Romantic version of that movie was a shape of water which we saw recently but a couple of years the swamp thing is the prototype. But I gotta say she was original in increasing the black lagoon. She's hot pretty solitude she there's a scene in there where she swimming across the top of the water to see the creature underneath. Mirroring her and she's going through the water. She's hot enough for you to say yes. You know I'm going to say yes because because that movie I think was one of those ones that really really made a mark on me and you know you kind of felt. Some sympathy for the creature is all he wanted to do. Was Mary this lady sort of rain on on and just all of his advances were rebuffed. So I'm GonNa vote yes even though I don't really know her but I'm looking looking at her. IMDB page yeah. Like she was a regular on murder she wrote. I don't remember Code Red TV series Quincy Adams. Yeah so she yeah see. She played the site. I I would say yes. So Scott Bob. I didn't. I think we get this much debate. I thought she was going to be a no for sure. So bobby shaking his head that means no. You know what I'm going to say. Yes so we're going going to counter. Hello numbers how about dudek Miller Yasser in Parana hearsay. It would ring true for. You was the Terminator Series with Hamlin's his face like I've seen that guy a very in the millions I agree. Yes Scott mildly. My vote cats here on my door. Four I can't hear awful but he Yeah I shared the screen with him literally. Did you actually need Dick Miller warmbier in your shoot handle the left. Did you cut this. Did you see any. Did you see him. Oh Yeah I was like close close to where you are you doing the creature from back lagoon mimics swimming underneath about humanoids from the no a Horrible eighties or flick. It's it's awesome because it's gotta take off from the Black Lagoon and Frana thing this guy. Have you ever person that guy. All the deep web was genius about it was that he had these creatures and all they wanted to do is grab the girls and make within like you were saying and so these creatures would battle water in the attack in every male they can they swipe their hand across awesome and it was just like rip the male open the guts would come out and talk to a woman swiped the hand across and Kenya would go flying Regulate Swipe so that it wouldn't penetrate soon all right so so we're going to say yes to dig Miller I'll goal-bound abuse. It'll be a first ballot. Frank Robinson Major League Baseball yes absolutely yes blender in major league history. WHOA okay so that is it for February? Did I miss any you for did not nice. You gotTa uh-huh okay so moving into March. We have Tania Mallet. Actress was in gold finger thing so oh and just recently had a discussion about bond girls in in bond movies so I don't remember if Tania Mallet made the cut so it wasn't the girl that was painted both I don't believe though says she's not the girl that was painted gold than I think we had to is. She doesn't get credit for inventing the croquet hammer either so now okay now about nipsy hustle rapper her for now Rossi. Wrestle are well before you completely sloughed this one I will say just like Mac Miller earlier last time we reported nipsy hustle was very big young crap. That's true he had any significant impact. Never the younger generation. We're all recognize how popular. Okay but really do we have anyone that young are demographic lists so her. You're listening. Yeah I I think. The the millennials are not hitting the download button. When it comes to our pod comes down so I okay we will say go on that one unfortunately MRI Russell right? I I agree with that. How about Agnes Varda? who was a French director? Any anybody here now is more hit but right now okay. So that's no how about Joey PA- Lotto who was an actor in the day of the dead movie. Anybody familiar with that one over he. Okay so that's a no. So how about Scott Walker musicians with the Walker brothers anybody familiar with the Scott Walker. That was Hershel. Hershel Yes Scott Walker He died last. You count them last year by Duma slogger not Komo with that one either so walker brothers. Nobody knows that band I assume. Okay how about Larry Cohen. He was a director and screenwriter It's a live Q.. And the stuff was one of the brewers. No I don't believe so. I don't even think he was related to them. Anybody familiar with that one already. How about Justin Carter country musician? Anybody familiar with his work. Never Listen Jason Carter. Now maybe Justin Bieber but not just in Cardin. Okay how about a may go Carter giancarl Bush ler horror movie corrector. He directed troll Friday the thirteenth part seven and Guli is part three the sequel not enough to get him he did not get. How about OP Bernie Tommy Musician? He was in the band of Gillan. Anybody familiar with that. Wow March so far is a bunch of Ernie hop in Dan or know about Richard Erdman TV actor. He was on the show community today. Leonard Thing Richard What Birdman Birdman you know the character. I think it is okay. That's that's pretty genius. He was pretty pretty community. is a genius ship. Yeah it was pretty good. Yeah and so so. Is it enough for you to say. Yes Jesse Yeah. John Jesse is going to suck up to Dan. What's his name in the community that was kind of created the podcast guard? Cousin no idea. I've no idea which can offer Dan. Yeah I would Yes I would. I would vote for him just a year. Yes Scott I'm GONNA go with the no no Bob. Wow Jesse your voted. That's okay Eh. A No. We're keeping our no for March win. Streak live okay now kind of wanting to do that okay. I think this one's GonNa count the grades dig they mostly have we gotta breakers over her arose whether you knew the bodily Bob Greene at the beginning of fiction. That's almost greatness. I don't know if he did anything outside. Clutter that song was he. Invented served on the different things and I mean in highly dotty played for years and played with everybody. He's had several different riffs. Yeah you stop of the beach blanket movies. Yeah a net shelhah Frankie avalon. We're in Yeah he's absolutely okay so he is definitely a yes yeah so reality. TV storrow note. Jim Rahman from the amazing race. Anybody here with him rally noodles unfortunately unfortunately he did not invent Roman noodles Jed Allan who was a TV actor. He was on Beverly Hills nine to zero and Santa Barbara. Anybody familiar familiar with Thad Allen Nine. Oh Two one who okay so we will not count him. How about SID Sheinberg the film executive for MCA Universal Studios? He was the mentor Steven Spielberg. What's interesting is I just this last week read had a book an wiles and SID Sheinberg dot Richardson? That book. A lot is he was one of the big wigs of universal when they made. And so. You're now Jesse of you heard of China. I haven't signed Burger cheinal. Yeah never heard of them okay so using using new how about pro wrestler Nope King Kong Bundy name recognition right. He's good name recognition bution wherever. I'm kidding who warmest of yeses possible booming. We already let me gene in. Has the president. Yeah Kim Kuwait bigger. Okay so you're luke warm yes Scott. You're no no you know what I'll say. No To begrudgingly but this one. I think we'll be yes. How about Luke? Perry Beverly Hills nine to know who was once upon a time in Hollywood. Yes which was a movie. We recently watched He was also the show Riverdale. So he has your played Jug head's dead or dead or some such and he's in MM-HMM PIMM for just the pussycat eight seconds could get around the corner from Susan's Parents House when they were still admits that's and we filmed that where that water burger is on the corner. Heat Moore and van there. Yes they they they ah I assume that they filmed it at Gillies on the Mechanical News. Okay how about key flint musician. He was the awesome for prodigy. Who has like three and bob the regale us? With some honest I've started a twisted fire. Starter her talked about allman ticket. My heart breaks every time you say you never wore this. I'm not saying they have ten being reasonable number they have they af fire-starter they have three and they have smack. My Bitch looks three big hits so I'm yes fog anger. Yes no no my God. I cannot believe we're not gonNA have the prodigy lead singer count on this list. Okay we will say no reality. TV Star nope Janice Freeman was on the voice. Anybody familiar with her work. Okay notes it's on Thursdays. Nhl Hall of Famer. Harry how big Harry. How anybody familiar with Harry House? Gordon AH possibly I have no idea. This is never heard of him. He's all famer but not enough rings name Recognition Hockey. What Ah for the best sport of top four probably yeah okay? So that concludes Marceau March with a very light. Month won't be left out. How Lane ooh drummer? Oh Yeah we're crew that yet l.. All yet yeah agrees drummers ever right yeah played with Elvis the learn not. He's not the the you know about. TV hit from the sixties. Rome play drums on the monkey songs. Any other ones. I missed mark. That's that's all I have. You Got Dick Dale and have. I'm great man right there. Okay so moving into April we have. I believe I was he said heater. Make you chew Bacha First Ballot Right now this. I'M GONNA count but I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with his work. The Great John Singleton Justice you Bob your yes. I did not know him. Well unfortunately Scott like most cases. You're voted Let's see how about Larry Flash changes. Yes yes he was in the White Shadow. He was in Fletch. He was embarrassed. Buehler Buehler got little car. Yes they were. Jumping the car slum. Yeah I would say yes. I knew he was a drug addict to clinch with Zuber. Georgia works okay. Scott Jesse. I'm looking at his face. I don't recognize him but I will. I'd say yes. Wow Okay we get yes for him. Big Fan of the White Shadow. Also probably if I'm watching the MIC shows. TV shows how about Ken. kercheval master cliff Barnes. WHO now so? You're yes Jesse. Now the main house on a big hit show like that a he was the villain. Yeah Yeah I think he should count you okay. So I'm going to say right. Yes on that one. How about Stephanie? Shirk actress the reason. I put her on here. She was married to senior Bob from Hardaway from the eight. Oh Bashir yes to him. But just like Nikki Thompson's wife. I don't think that's going to get you're in right now okay. How about Lorraine Warren Paranormal investigator basis of the Kandari movies and those series Prepare wouldn't investigating will love because some of the investigating her now are haunting Hologram. Laurie Moore in Amityville or many people takes you as a fraud. Yeah well right so yeah no so you do not believe even the ghosts and the paranormal that they were investigating one normal with your hair. I don't know why I'm Scott. You're a big believer in bigfoot and SASQUATCH general right every time you see the beef jerky linked commercial you can get your ears. Start standing up on your neck. I know So but everybody knew her right. I did not. I did not recognize her the I I knew her and I did not put her on. I and I knew her. And I'm I've seen the conjuring movie in the NFL so but it sounds like I'm voted on this. Yeah yes yeah. I'm in place During Ward's husband. Because they were attacked he hid in Lorraine warrant. According to the TAG team goes else. I was never wrong. Okay so we'll say no on that one how about Gene Wolfe. Who was an author? He wrote with V of service. The book of New Son. Anybody familiar with the okay. So that's a no how about Georgia Engel TV actress. Everybody loves Raymond Arraignment. Yes okay. How about Charles Van Doren quish untested famous for rigging The Quiz Show Mesa movie quiz. Show that that his way before our time yes but I was gonna say that Significant Cova The candle at the time and the movie kind of shed light on APP so Jessie your yes. Yes Scott I'll give it a yes okay. So that's a yes. How are not your region She was an actress in Thuban films. She was in from Russia with love and Goldfinger but again I don't believe she was the one that was spray painted cold leapt on the bed. Anybody familiar with her. I don't remember her name coming up here. Do I remember us talking about her during the thing only because she was into but I don't remember who she was. Okay I don't sound like we have in Mr Bond. Yes Scott cannot remember were then she can't count right. Okay so we'll say no for how about Seymour Cassel. Yes but castle actor rush the more you saw. You'd be like I've seen that guy you it looks like he was in a lot of Wes Anderson movies. Yeah Seymour Cassel cast picture here this guy before all yes I love him. Oh yeah absolutely yeah. So he's a yes and right yes he's he's great. He's Great Western. Okay here's a couple. Actually three straight Sports related deaths. I think he's GonNa Count. I won fourth grade. Rake Hall of Famer Code for the packers. He answered Ed Bob. John Havilcek over his dog. Oh Oh one hundred How about and this one is more local? Roger Brick the voice of Cowboys Stadium Two local. I don't like how they did George George boss okay so because of that. Yeah I'M GONNA I'M GONNA Curse Roger to accepting I'm not gonNA give it to else to know okay. Very South Jennifer Garner would not make it with his hardline is ruled good bugs that guy's GonNa rage of this but I'll be sure to send them just this isolated so that way they can talk about it during during Community cricket okay so moving into May April. Did I miss any April deaths Got Peter macy's April April for me. Yeah Nice all right so this list is looking better pretty competent. So far usually a bull added that I had miss throughout the year. Okay Reality TV star. May Daniel Right no biggest loser. How was your so many reality stores reside there? Only young to begin with drugs. Well in the case of biggest loser I assume that he was having up with somebody died from survivor. I assume some spider snake been somebody I figured that's all I have interests. Maybe on amazing race somebody who would it off of. It's a mad mad mad net. Yes okay so Daniel writes in new. How about carmine? Caridi was an actor he it was in the Godfather Tartu and the money pit. I I remember him. From was he was the guy who ran the amusement park in kiss versus the fact. Is that enough to get your. I mean I use I the recognizable face in central casting Italian from the seventy nothing. So you're now you're just yeah it. Okay I'll say that you how about Nikki loud one champion Racer Was Central to the movie rush. Yeah he was huge. That's carmine current policy. That guy as mayor but so Nikki Lauda I know just. He's let Formula One. Yeah I mean because he was part of that movie I would say yes S. two. This one's a no brainer Tim Conway Oh Dr Coburn Nets Dorf on Golf Definitely first ballot right most Steph. Okay so this one kind of the reality. TV Realm but even more probably controversial grumpy cat's viral viral video star. Animals don't even like secretary of county but not no. No I mean gene. Everybody knows that grumpy cat face like beige like something out those in now. We kind of set the precedent by including a downfall as because that's a viral video from grumpy cat's just a still yes okay. So everybody's known nine Komo grumpy cat okay. So let's look really mean it was lassie. Yeah or Benji timber. Yeah Yeah okay all right how about Doris Day smoke. Yes ooh speaking of once upon a time the murders the guy whose house was before old plants Melcher. That was the guy that man's looking for that was hours. Days Printing there with one of the Bird Kim's Barabbas living there at the time to. Wow so they kind of dodged. A bullet bullet liberal league by moving out bright before they decided to show up. Okay so I think this little to you. Pay Lipton Lost Mary. Mother of and so I wish circus from parts of Radio Jones law so just kind of Carol channing. Doris Day Tim Conway way kind of a big month. The yeah the well. Carol channing was earlier but that's kind of a sitting there certainly. Some sauces is not quite but they may seem to pick it up again endorsing quality okay. How about Alvin Sargent Oscar winning screenwriter? You wrote Julia Ordinary People in Paper Moon or very Greece it is sake greatness. Paper Moon was the Tatum Ryan. O'Neal tatum money. It was a pretty good movie. I mean she wears give nominated immersive young. She got nominated youngest nominee so he is an Oscar winner but he was just the screenwriter. He didn't direct his name's recognized is now yeah boy. It's a decent body of where it hurts. Yeah but not yet Batman Sergeant Dick Sargent. GTO WE'RE ALMOST PUT IT in for people but Yeah Barbara for poor people great film. Okay so this one. I think I'm going to be the only one to support this. Because it's boxing death Harold Lederman who oxy on HBO. You was the unofficial score every time box matinee. Theo shut up they would go to Howard let them the unofficial score. He was also a hall of fame. Judge in boxing I would say yes. y'All come Bob. You're Yes sky hurt. You're now just Z.. He looks familiar. What would he have been laid my talk show? What else would I know him from display a lot of poker? No this is that is the poker player. Sorry Villier James Okay. So you're sounds like you're now right GonNa have your Hispanic wouldn't be familiar. It was for his voice Whenever they were doing? HBO Fights Hard. Sounds like me and you're the only one not two four six. Yeah I won't do and you know what I'm going to say. Yes out of respect for you to I love all right. So we'll give him very very cheap at an awesome okay. I think this'll be a number. Patty the Great Bart Star or was he not that great or non auto interesting amazing he had I two sons. So Bart Star is a guest. Read yes pretty. Decent sports years lost. It seems there is wars wards big than there is in Roberson especially when we talk about the next one. Which is bill buckner? Oh Wow baseball player. Obviously known for watching that Ground Ball in the world series when the Red Sox I Scottish shaking. His head. Never heard because you're not a baseball to last breath rule writing twins legs. Yeah I agree. That is. That's Salaam. He goes yeah he goes in. Unfortunately the devil will not allow him to ground any balls redeem himself on curve. Remember the the episode occurred. Yes very funny episodes. How about Leon red bone musician? Yes now dad. He was June and You scored this was in May refer is not quite that maybe maybe made I designed mine cuts off at may twenty twenty six which was on your wall remember. My Dad went through a big red foam phase where I would listen. He'd have a record one house. My arm is crazy anyway. Twenty four yes. He was on a couple of times. I Wrigley yes. We will count him and we have one more local death. You may not want to count the Great Gerry. Fraley majors beat writer. Mobile kind of like like The Voice of cowboys but when he died national media gave him cross commissioner right He. You don't love your yes yes. Yeah Jesse Yes oh absolutely okay so we will say yes to the hardline million times okay. So that concludes May Scott that I miss any you Miss Jim Fowler from Kingdom. Fowler's in fact I'm going to sit here and save while Jen wrestles the wildebeest birth rate for the bone. Perkins the kid you the heavy lifting. Jim was out there wrestling. The Snake Jim of this throw fobs. Got Your yesterday against okay so account. I'd rather miss an episode while we got famous but also deal her word right Jim had rick Marlin Perkins was the one that got famous. It's and I think Jim is also a frequenter on the old tonight show with cars. I think the Jim go on nationally and he would bring creatures and stuff all right. So is that the one I missed. I've gotten in mind cuts off there all right so moving into the final month of June we start with Beth breath chapman kind of a reality star that dog the bounty hunters wife. No absolutely not now I I would say yes even though it is reality TV else familiar. I if for dog not her. You're okay so long as Jesse Darwin count she is okay so we will say no like telling the grandson pawn stars okay. I think this will count match right actor. How off reds he was an all that jazz? Good character I would say yes. Scott never heard of them. Yeah you at yeah song you recognize always plagued nervous people. Hello yes on outfit was okay this one kind of a local one. Tony Baroni College basketball coach she coast ten. Am and I just thought it was a funny name to name. I would say spot so I'm GONNA say no no he. It was a good coach but they they didn't really do anything during his tenure but that's underage. Vj M okay. How about everything? Billy Drago not either Drago but billy drago actor he was in Pale rider the untouchables risco county. Junior you're familiar with billy drug as work. Yes so Scott Your yes oh there was another man sir. Okay so far were you. Yes on Billy Drago Jesse He. I know you like Briscoe Candy. I'm looking at yeah. I'm looking at his face. I don't not enough. He he played he was known as a bad idea. Here's a heavy in every movie. He made eighty nine Ta. He's kind of like a younger version of the weird creature on poltergeist. To okay is that it was Frank Nitty in the touchable. Yeah I think I recognize days but it may not be enough to get him in. Unfortunately it sounds like we're not losers. Okay Jerry Carrigan Drummer Elvis Presley. John Denver one let me go back to May may may right Rocky Erickson yesterday and rockier definitely see the guy with the weird face. Ace No not rocking Dennis yards and he was schizophrenic up. He was pretty crazy. Well what is what is his thirteen rubbish. Convince me is that a movie ban from the sixties PSYCHEDELIC. What was their big hit? You're GonNa miss me that was there at trusty Reiner did a whole long thing talking about. Are you familiar with rockier. Jesse suggests. He's no I'm going to have to go now but Scott Your your heart in honor of the movie masks I will say yes rocky and how does that I will vote to make it unanimous vote yes too because you guys are so have Berber's yet that sounds like Gabriel. The trashing this. Let's listen to the song you'll you'll be able to insert that okay so we'll say okay. Yes Iraq Erickson so getting back to Jerry Carrigan with anybody familiar with him. He was all this okay. So he wasn't Elvis and John Denver. We'll say no novus counts colonel. Tom Counts I think this account. How about Gloria Vanderbilt? Yes fashion designer Anderson Cooper. Humanely get. I'll get it to Yeah I think she in them now this next one. I think I'm going to be the only supporting it but if I have to use an exemption which I am not used the Great Bushwick bill from the ghetto. Back counselors bill so the ghetto boys. If anybody's seen the movie office space the entire office space soundtrack is the ghetto boy. So the song. They're playing when they're breaking the printer the boys and butchered bill was the actual images. WHOA whoa what do I know a little bit? Now we're not allowed to say that phrase but was those women. Yeah he was the. If you saw him you recognize they were from Houston right. Yes fifth ward. Yes I saw I say yes bob you actually. You're giving me y'all I gotta assume both I never heard of them but exemption you don't play. He's got a ghetto. Boys greatest they have probably Twain springsteen has eight money get uh-huh that's the most has been claiming you haven't been to me all these years about springsteen to the point now where I'm just adding Asami year. Okay so Bushwick is yes and I think the next one will count to Pat Bolan. NFL executive owner owner of the broncos. The how he was big owners and his his ears. We're fighting over the team. Take this I did not know who he is by over for them for a long time like was there and everything split fifty fifty. I want to say yes because we brought Bushwick Bill in real keep Pat Bolan out to look loyal to level the playing field. I would put Bushwick bill before pebble. How about Sylvia Miles oscar-nominated actress? She was midnight Cowboy she-devil Farewell. Oh well anybody familiar with her fine words. Yeah I've heard of needed work on her face. You recognize it. Yeah but I'm GONNA kill her. Okay so you're no I would probably be a known your Scott now. Okay so they know it is how about Liam md.. witless screenwriter. He wrote Lonesome Dove led and the perfect storm. He's a screenwriter. So so those are three pretty big moves the other guy rolls out of those right okay. so He's a No. I think and this will count and I think this is the local giant. Frankly Casey player-manager Rangers in the Lucchese boot. Probably we want only one this so familiar yet. Who Frankly Casey is? I'll get punched out by Randall. Oh Okay so you're yes Jesse. F Yeah that just moderator on facebook doc in honor of the Rangers. I'm going to say Rangers okay. How about Dr John Dog I will dinner somewhere? Exemption exemption right place for a long time. They walk on yielded splinter and arrived by around taming look at hits it was very limited going to say that sounds like wonder about his legacy there. Airing New Orleans is is the closest thing to the human embodiment of of anybody literally was like New Orleans on two legs. Yes he was amazing. Public table reaches. Love is the visual. Sorry visual about his body work went beyond just his solo stuff he. The Guy Sang with so in many people in the last waltz. You know he did some of the other people. Yeah okay so it sounds like everybody's pretty passionate about guide. Yeah I know the right back. That was real name okay. So Einstein Officer Guitar Player Finger Got Shaw in bar fights lease fish Pinot because he could play guitar anymore. You can't determine forefingers lot with your guitar. Ian Can't it is really three fingers if your phone still. They're uh that's true okay. So the next so I was GONNA say other guitar players four fingers that we're missing digit. He's lost awesome tips. Zip just terrible terrible way how it was. It was a machine metal cutter. Ernie he pushed the piece of metal and it was actually versus. It was a day that he he wanted to quit and his mother said No. You have to go back to work no you have to go. It was part of a heavy metal accidents. takedown took off the fingers and he had to make fake tips for seniors. I guess you could say maybe made his sound. Oh yes it did. And what is what prompted by seven to do the part of the sound. Okay so Dr John is yes. How about Paul Darrow actor? Then the reason I included him in addition to being in some show called Blake's seven he was a doctor who was captured Hawkins. So Jessie are you familiar. All who dare I thought that of David Harbors Captain Hawkins. So maybe this was the original captain as a stranger things. Joking again Now now if the subject matter expert for all things Dr Phil says now I big all of our guests. Don't even matter the obviously. That's a no only a couple left and this is definitely a local one Bill Bragg American radio station owner and the voice of big Tex oh votes what welcome do this state bear takes. Oh I thought you were going to go. Oh folks welcome to the after my shape. Okay so is that get apt to get Bill Bragg in exemption local executives. Okay so yes yes. Bob Is on the fence. Look at his face a Lotta Asleep Fair. It's a great state. I'M GONNA save is he would have been voted. Yeah that was going to say yes us too so he counts and we have one left not as good as fake big tax on the ticket All Benjamin all in He was an accurate news and do the right thing he was at midnight. Cowboy was born to win. Anybody familiar with this now. I know him because I've seen do the right thing. He was one of the The people on the sidewalk during the riot at the end of do the right thing. Anybody else familiar with his work. I would've said yes go Sky Your No. I'm looking at pictures. Now he's pretty spare Out All right so it sounds like not enough support for him. So we'll say no I'm looking Yeah Yeah I don't think so okay. So that concludes my list. So just through June okay. So did I miss anybody know June's you had far real sentence all of my my james you have his Ah Jun I had you Dr John. I've got a couple for July But I got thoughts. What's next time already? 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Erling Haaland: The Making of a Goal-Scoring Machine

The Lead

17:07 min | 3 months ago

Erling Haaland: The Making of a Goal-Scoring Machine

"Over the past year and a half soccer fans have become very familiar with a certain twenty year old norwegian strike as johnny dean puckett today. The athletics rafael hanukkah dean on how erling haaland became a global star through a combination of power incredibly short interviews and an extreme dedication to his craft. I mean this is not one of those football's available to party hard. You know and love the fos cars and the night life. He's devoted his whole life to from wondering i'm under skelter. It's tuesday march ninth and this is still the. It felt like something was happening. Is your emotion and closer the past. Don't there's this isn't a story you're gonna be the athlete it stays with you. Sarah for those who might not have seen erling haaland play yet or even for those who have. How do you describe the way that this guy plays soccer. The guy is first of all just amazing to look at. Imagine your typical scandinavian athlete but may would a touch of yvonne drago from rookie four. Then how do you explain his freakish strength. Like your papa spinach every day. Whatever he hits destroyed his incredibly tall is incredibly broad bought. It's all sculpted and he super-quick quick with talking sort of high speeds of all enough to do the maths the old metric system conversion. Yes so it's just under twenty two miles an hour and you know. He sat completes at a centre forward. So good in the air. Makudi on the ball loves to run on counterattacks as unselfishness is poland's and he's only twenty so he's an exit phenomenon. Condie is on twenty nine goals in twenty eight games to season for dortmund which is already pretty insane if you look at the champions league which is really the whole mock of the superstar players. He scored eighteen goals in thirteen appearances. No-one in history of the competition has got as many goals. In as few games. At this level you see the hunger with which erling haaland plays and the desperation to score goals. Almost as if it hurts. If he's not scoring goals that if he continues on the current trajectory he will overtake msu and rinaldo in terms of goals output. Which is something that was believed to be impossible. Only copy ago but he could. Do i think that if there are people who are going to replace. Cristiano ronaldo in se at the top of world football than erling hall is certainly one of them rougher. Here's some words that have been used to describe erling haaland monster machine maniac. Terminator robot or government. Funded mutants and. You know a lot of people talk about this guy. Though he is ivan drago this guy who is almost created in a test tube and just bred for success but this a sense of erling haaland personality. I mean is he really some sort of just goalscoring robot. I think it's a bit unfair to him. But what is true is that he seems to have devoted his whole life to his art. I knew when. I was young that i was good. But you know it's also a long way to go. Dream is to become one of the best players in the world but but he is a guy who when he gets into his car listened to the champions league anthem. Ooh that's excites. You know the idea of playing chess sneak. And he was special glasses that fills route the blue light when he uses his iphone or his ipad late at night because he wants to sleep. Better and ronaldo and messi also had that almost monk like devotion and almost shut out the whole world. But you get the sense with him. And maybe that is to do this. At a scandinavian white so the dad pan- very dry persona that he might take it to another level and become even more just football. I think that's also part to do with the way he does interviews tonight. You became the youngest plan and uefa champions the history score first off hatrick. How you. I feel very good. He's very short and curt with his answers. What's the secret seventeen goes now. This is nine games to work hard. You live result. They lost to know tonight in two weeks. You go to filled your father scored there in nineteen ninety-seven. You're going to follow suit. I hope so. Sometimes i think he wants to play a little bit with the interview when he feels that interviews not really saying the right things but at the same time i've seen him also say he doesn't want to make any mistakes using a foreign language spy. Did you do that and why not is it kind of message. He wants to send out. Yes is that sort of elite athlete. Intelligent if you will trying to just absolutely maximise is professional output and everything else. Kind of just a distraction. Well i think to a lot of soccer fans. Erling haaland seems like this guy who just kind of exploded onto the global scene out of nowhere. Can you give us a quick snapshot of his background. And how he rose through the ranks when he was actually born in leeds england because his dad of england was a professional football player playing for my city and leeds. When the family moved back he grew up in norway if he played handball he was good athletics. There was a story. I think reported in norway that actually holds the world record still for five year olds when it comes to standing long jump at one hundred and sixty three centimeters. Five foot four inch. I wasn't aware that there is such thing standing on jumps especially five role. But i guess shows you just how obsessed with sports he was and how a goody was she lots of photos pretend so doing outdoorsie stuff chopping wood in this kind of stuff and the area where the family lived sa- quite agricultural even by reaching standards. It's a very small town Where i am biked all over all over the train school and everything in a small town that i enjoyed a lot of weakness is home for me. And he plays for the local team and burn and then he played for the bigger team in moldova. And then he was scouted by the red bull group of football teams and was put into the salts. Book team only took in academy year to reach a level where it was clear that in to step and jason basically flew all over europe. Talk to all the big clubs and kind of almost auctioning himself off. Well how did you end up at dortmund. 'cause i mean they're obviously top team but aren't at the same level is real madrid or some of these other clubs that were chasing him. The reason why dope won that race was a finger to fold one dope web pad to accept a release clause in his contract that allows him in twenty twenty to basically decide about his next step. They also provided a very strong emotional attraction. If you will or repeal because idea of playing in the biggest stadium in germany with the biggest terrorist in europe twenty five thousand people standing on the yellow wall things something you wanted to experience. When i walked out. I five on the bench of course and then i heard the yellow wall and the whole stadium singing. These things was impressed. I like dream. You know when you Young in when you dream to play in front of eighty thousand and thirdly and most importantly a lot of big clubs that he was talking to the head strikes they had people in his position scoring goals. Dortmund by some quirk didn't really have a real centre forward so said to him. Look if you wanna play for us is the number nine shirt and you sent forward so roughly when you step back and you look at erling. Holland's ascent what is it that stands out to you the most like what's unusual about the way that this guy has emerged as a goal-scoring machine i would say the rapidness of his assent because goalscorers don't just suddenly appear on the scene with holland. It's a kind of an instant thing gave spurs. It's something i cannot remember. Not for center forward. Yes you always have won the kids. seventeen eighteen. Sixteen year olds breaking breakthrough. But i don't tend to be sent forward scoring those monthly calls. This is already. That's strike at the age of twenty and it's actually pretty frightening to think what he might be doing one day. Microsoft teams is helping priority bicycles reinvent. The way they work when the pandemic the bike shop had to close their new york city showroom. They found a way to reopen by doing virtual visits on teams. 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Seasonally source for peak freshness is also the most sustainable meal kit offsetting one hundred percent of its direct carbon emissions in plastic packaging and every box with all that in mind. I am very excited to try. Green chef out go to green dot com slash ninety lead and use code ninety lead to get ninety dollars off including free shipping again. Go to green chef dot com slash ninety lead and use code ninety lead get ninety dollars off including free shipping rougher erling haaland is actually played briefly under another famous norewegian who coincidentally also happens to be known for having a baby face all on our soil share the current head coach of united. What do we know about the relationship between those two. The relationship was very good. I think that really go tone social knows his dad. I have learned that inouye sort of everyone knows anyone really. So it's not unusual and social. Felt that his relationship was good enough to make the difference when it came to attracting earning too many united and speak to. Who was you weren't interested in. Everyone would say you take the best players in the world and aling. His is a top player. Ultimately wasn't i guess it shows that for all the warm relationship and the gratitude that exists the guys very driven and single minded and would have very carefully weighed up all the options and the fact that there happened to be a norwegian manager in charge. Mennonites was not the decisive effect of him. While there have been plenty of rumors about erling haaland leaving dortmund. This summer in a megadeal. How do you see things playing out over the next year or two. I still think it's more likely that he will stay in the summer. A little bit of that is contingent of what happens to development if they were to lose out on trump's qualifications than the financial hit that taking might wanna say forced to hand but may be will change their thinking. He has a much easier way out if you will next year when the release clause kicks in so whoever wants to buy in holland now would probably get a better deal next year albeit at the cost of pre paying him even more money. So i think there's a good chance we'll play dormant next year but if the city for example were to decide you know what we're just gonna break the bank and put two hundred million dollars on the table. Dull might say no what we have to take that deal but goldman are hoping because of the fallout from corona. That even the richest clubs and that is without a doubt bench to sit in power. Sensua- would not be able unnecessarily willing to do that kind of deal. The summer assizes still think holland will still be wearing yellow and scoring goals in front of the yellow wall hopefully in front of a full yellow next season well last rafa holland dornan's place via in the champions league on tuesday. They won the first leg. Three two two and look likely to advance to the quarter-finals. How far do you see. This team of young superstars going. Well i think the fact that nobody can go into. The last eight is pretty good for that team especially with the pretty inconsistencies that they've had and then it's a little bit down to lock. There's a big difference if you were to get say caught up in the next round or indeed manchester city out session ovine in which is also pretty big mismatch for them so with a bit of luck with everyone being available i think it is not inconceivable that they can get beyond the next round and make it into the semi final but i think ultimately they will meet teams better than them and elling harlan upfront. But we're not going to be quite enough to go all the way. Thanks for joining us. And i think it's time to go get your kids on a long jump training program but it all to all its to break the five year old record so records nine twelve. And thanks so much rougher thank you you can follow coverage of breezy dorfman and all things at the athletic dot com wondering. I'm undersco seat him up in july two thousand eighteen twelve you. Soccer players and their coach found themselves trapped six miles deep in a cave with no food or water and depleting oxygen. The rock for maize became almost completely submerged as the water rose to levels nearly impossible for survival. There was no light and no way to communicate with the outside world. Their only chance of making out alive was in the hands of world-class cave diver. Rick stanton the whole world watching rick and his dive partner. John were immediately faced with the challenge of their lifetime. Boys get them out safely. 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Visions in the Flames 2021 Part 11: ASOIAF TMG Updated Targaryen Tactics Cards and Khal Drogo Commander revealed!

On The Table Gaming

41:53 min | 4 months ago

Visions in the Flames 2021 Part 11: ASOIAF TMG Updated Targaryen Tactics Cards and Khal Drogo Commander revealed!

"Hey it's chase him on the table gaming and welcome back to another episode of the podcast and this week we'll be looking at the vision. The flame article eleven focusing on the house targulian forces as always worth thanks to be joined by game designer michael chanel and special thanks to all of our patriot supporters. Who make this podcast possible. Be sure to head on over the newly formed on the table gaming facebook group. Share your hobby pictures. Talk board games card games and tabletop wargames and generally help us build a positive community. But that being said let's jump on talking about the mighty target enforces as previewed in the twenty twenty one. Update all right. Well michael thank you so much for coming back on and we get to talk about targe arians this week but before we do that. Let's take a look at some of the images that people submitted on the facebook page of their painted neutrals which our topic of last week where there any there that caught your eye. There were two artists specifically who stuff i really liked the threat word Talented wednesday over there are two definitely data me. I will being the flame by grant stacey although fantastic. Yeah the other one. Caught my attention heroes. We had the unit of bloody skirmishes. Here done by darren calvert. He also had a great blogger unit. Did you happen to see the one one by stephen basler. It was a a beautifully painted set of flayed men with an interesting shirt behind. It didn't notice any sure could yes. I did notice the the they are perhaps one of my favorite like aesthetic units in the game so they drew your attention to them. There were so beautiful man. Okay fee lou. Tremblay had a unit of bastards at looked beautiful. A bunch of dogs and some snow on there. So thank you guys so much for submitting and for next week we'll have a challenge for submitting some of your images then as well for the designer developer to take a look at and With that being said let's let's jump in here and start talking about the main focus here being the target so we got a pretty pretty amazing article here. Tournaments look if you really strong. So with house star. Garrisons diversity is kind of one of their strengths. Can you elaborate. On their diversity of the wide range of people they bring together is being addressed and cuts down in this twenty twenty one update when it comes to the The syrians. Like they're you said diversity and that's true and just a number of ways. Because so as i touched upon in the article you have like the great houses of west coast. And despite the fact they're made up of different liege lords different Houses and everything. They kind of function as like their own mini country. but they haven't ideology about the starks. They represent the northerners. So you know even if it's not like you know they don't necessarily follow those the king in the north they. They follow the northern traditions in some capacity numbers car. Starks reads a proper starks. They're all part of the door. Lancaster's are a bit more hajjaj but into the day. Their forces are coming driven by money and the fact that they're like the southerners and everything like that. Dorothy you have the storm. Landers dragon stone. They they all have a culture to when it comes to like house derian generis though is she basically just hodge podge of people that have under her banner for one reason or another. Whether they're from there west rosie loyalists whether there sos like sell swords or just the people that she is free or people who are just you know basically have anywhere else to go. She's kind of attracted all the other the other kind of the lost in the vagrant of the world under her better and so we see in the updated taxes cards that there is a kind of a universal incoming honor and a lot actually seems to do with a movement and maneuvering we kind of how that first cluster that you talk about overrun sudden retreat. Swift position how do you see this kind of playing into the target and identity. Or why is it so important to their troops that they have with. Some ability is a key element of regardless of which Commander choosing in the target area. And that's one of the core. Themes of their fashion exists in areas started with rocky and she's basically amassing this big army to go and set sail across the sea to back to west rose to reclaim her throne. That she thinks she's entitled to say that kind of mobility aspect of you have to nurse who is basically like kind of traveling around the world sort of release pulling attention from around the world that was like where that seema maneuverability and whatnot came with and also heavily influenced by the fact that the majority of early forces are based on the roxie so lots of cavalry but that is one of the core themes to the target is that mobility aspects so almost regardless of which commander you're taking you're going to have some battlefield control kind of shenanigans. That's actually a better way. I think putting it rather than distractibility is more battlefield control via position that makes sense and and she's got some although maybe a danny may not be the most seasoned warrior. She does certainly have many people who are experienced in the ways of battle and in maneuvering themselves on the battlefield. The other tactics that go with that. So we see cars like overrun sudden retreat. Swift reposition so lots of tweaks there and in some cases even replacing older cards out of those three which of those kind of stands out you the most as one of your favorite tactics cards. Well i know that fabio's like favorite card in the entire game is overrun. Which by the way chase. If you've seen him point you just let me know. He's kind of been missing for quite awhile presumed dead but we might have to get a new one but anyway point is overrun momentum swing card. You know you're able to get the assault in destroy unit and then carry that over into another one now this. This is a toned down version from what it was in the at one point six versions. Because as you see it doesn't allow the pitted beforehand. So does require additional setup. But that's again kind of plays with journal toning down of most tactics cards anytime. The buffs daybreak free actions are a bit rare. And you have to do a little more. And that's w so charges because charges by their nature. Already one of those impactful things that can happen entire game absolutely and so we kind of have those three clump together as sort of your movement and maneuver zone dependent cards or they have kickers that might benefit from that. Then we start to get down into some of the really more flavorful ones fury. The dragon for example is gone but now we have field control. You never wanna face a target area in hoard on an open field and they certainly seen to control the field with this card since they actually have some interplay now with nc us right where when an issue claims the maneuvers zone in this case are field control. If the nc was friendly you made a place that zones effect with a friendly combat unit performs one maneuver retreat action. With plus one movement and the enemy it disengages from becomes weekend. However you can play this any. Nc you claims his own attacks not just your own. It can be reactive in that regard as well if the nc was your enemy you now get to force your opponent's replace that zones effect with one friendly combat unit becomes weakened and they may shift three inches. So you actually get to weaken opponent. And then maybe they get as a drawback they can. They can move their unit. You know three inches away or reposition a little bit. What's the thought behind that card. What does that kind of capturing so in this one here. The maneuvers zone is paramount to the core death and this is basically giving you a little advantage here to punish the opponent for taking the zone. That really really matters to you now. One thing here. I can foresee this when that some people probably play this song and the important rule here remember that friendly. It is always referencing like the player with the effect. Because i can see some people go. Oh i get to pick. What am i guy or my guys. And they're gonna get to shift. Can we get know. This is the opponents choosing one of their guys. they're becoming weekends. They're getting to shift so effectively. They're getting still targeted by the maneuvers. And which would usually grant them a free maneuver or retreat a here. It's now much drastically weaker effect on at the week a token right. Yeah so it's the when it's the ncaa opponents playing the turn so they would be the one reading that text on the zone right something that we can. I can see typically some people gang shipped over but member friendly always reference to who the effect is talking about and then we have some really cool ones. With like unstoppable advance. Where now the way that works is it doesn't only ignore dangerous. Hindering the rough keywords but you also destroy any terrain with the destructible keyword that has moved through or ended within one inch of also give a bonus to search fourth if necessary as well so we started to see a lot more interplay with terrain here. Yeah that's actually probably one of my favorite like newer cards. Just because the reasons you mentioned with the interplay whiff terrain because the setting up the battlefield is more and if you have a battlefield kind of control army then that can be a big tamper for you. And especially if cavalry yes. They're maneuverable but the right piece of can really shut them down but here okay. So now you got something to go against. You got your spike walls up or something. And they don't care. Does care unstoppable out of all these ones. We see kind of some change slightly to things like fire and blood so you still get your choices. But now there's three choices to choose from and if you control the maneuver zone you get to choose to instead. You know you can really you. Can you know the extra choices are always appreciated. But now especially with uniroyal any charge distance. Die turn you can basically kind of guarantee you're going to get that charge off like as a sure thing. Well there's never any sure things. But this is another element of kind of the mobility. And again i keep saying it. Over and over the battlefields control elements. So you've got one said help you give you extra legal movement tricks like overrun or sudden. Retrieve wants that help shape the battlefield which consider like swift reposition in that category you got field control and then you have the ones that are going to give you some additional bonuses for charging which is again another form of around and that's what this falls into and then just go into the status cars this this last one here blood of the dragon so starving turn you can target one friendly combat unit attached to them so a cool car attach effect when a friendly unit is destroyed. Place one order token on this card. While this card as a token the attached melee attacks game plus one die and this unit suffers negative one wound from failing hanoch tests. So this is a really cool card in that. It seems like the as you start to lose your troops and your troops are a little bit more pricey in some cases for targeted ads. You can actually have that be benefiting remaining troops and that may be a you know. Now that they're bloodied and ready to for for for for that hunt. They can do additional damage. Yes so look to her of they've developed this reputation as being a very elite faction based on the units that were available at the time of. Well i guess even the time this recording which is true. They do have a lot of expensive options but there are some cheaper options on the horizon. That will be coming out shortly in q one q two this year. Then you know are going to just give them some more options that you have. So as i've said in the article you know you're going to be able to take your league is making even more elite via this card or take some of your weaker kind of shave guys and give them a little bit of a boost because i intact i is a rare effect have and just static just having it around a super nice and the miners went from failing. Penny test is a fairly substantial boost in sustained because since panic is reduced to three. This is effectively. Cutting your wounds here by thirty two percent giving you the capability here also suffering no wounds from failing panicked fantastic so i mean the basic deck here is a pretty amazing obviously right now like thinking in the context of god doth raqi hoard. All this stuff looks fantastic and really fun to play with however as you show in this article it seems the tar guarantee aren't really not just about their base tactics stack of course but the commanders and their influence on the tax that are being used is kind of one of the bigger deals about target aaron right now so their commanders come with four tactics cards instead of the standard three and then it replaces a tactic card in the main deck. Now you showed us called rogo here Before we jump into him and his tactics cards replaces one of the base taxes. Cards with one of his special cards. Does every commander replace a different card or like do they always replace the same target card in the main deck. No they all have a car that they replace specifically there are some that replaced the same guard. But it's not like every single time this is going to replace otherwise it would just be. A filler is reflective of their personalities. So cal drago here you know. He replaces a sudden retreat mainly because of his great cal. Don't retreat tactically. He's busy kill him. Tactical repositioning the other direction. It's just You know and just to give some like. I guess some additional spoilers and going memory but i believe there's since me who favor character in the setting i believe he actually replaces overrun because being the more of a tank slash bunker style. Commander that one is key gets rid of that one. Because it's a little blassie kind of aggressive for his place so he switches that out for one of his personal cards. I'm not gonna. I'm definitely hank aaron. Fm breath on him though man. He's one of my favorite characters. Do a the refocus on commanders. They all have their own unique. Play style and the car that they were places of the card that they replaced was specifically chosen to be reflective of not only their territory but also the tactics game mechanics of the range the table and cows himself. He's a substantial change as well. He's got expert dualist. Now where each time he performs a melee attack. You get to choose either doing additional wound or to target one infantry unit in the defenders unit and roll a dye three plus you destroy attachment. That's fantastic and he's got iron resolve getting a bonus to hispanic tests and suffering less wounds unit. And you've also got your blood of the dragon on him. That's a pretty non schedule unit. Oh yeah it's he can absolutely make his unit just this juggernaut on the battle which is a good because to compensate for that is a low dose raqi units that you would put him in. They don't necessarily have the best like defensive stats out. There could always do something just sticking placement for example you want a really big tank units but then you're going to get some you know cost up there you know. It's still a good option. The thing about cal drago here is that he actually received an unintentional reworking. His kit that he previously had worked really well and it was fine. It's just that because the changes to everything else. He had to be redesigned because he had too much. Overlap with the way we agree designed other units and tactics hearts. This was kind of one of those situations where it's like you know. He wasn't changed because we felt he was overpowered underpowered. Anything like that. He was this changed really came about as a byproduct of other little ripple effect changes. That's something that can have and he's gotta be a great khali. Kansas fbi given out a vulnerable in the charge. Like some some chump screamer. Something he's he's he's gotta be the great one We did push him in the direction of his one of those categories of battlefield commander where he his unit is going to be like one of those stars. The battlefield showcased a lot of these. But that's because a lot of the fan favorite character arc just this type of personality. You know what we have jamie lancaster. One of the barassie guys. I forget which one cal- drago here like. Oh these are. These are effectively battlefield. Rockstars okay there on the battlefield. It's a big deal you know versus like tyrian lancaster. You know if you see him on the battlefield. No one's gonna sit there and go like warrior tyrian landis taken to the battlefield with his acts. No they're going to underestimate him and go like oh. The half man is over there. It's not going to draw the same type of attention that jamie lancaster is. You know taking the vanguard here. Okay we need to be worried and then there was a disclaimer in your article. And i just wanted the opportunity here to apologize. that you You basically ruined The books for some people here by revealing that calderaro go Maybe dead so You know i'm really sorry to fortunately oklahoma and gets some. You're that guy. I see how it is that we walk into the movies. And like oh. Yeah titanic the boat sinks jeep. Thanks nice guys. I really can't believe that can walker is darth. Vader hasn't the christ. You won't believe well anyhow moving so You know we've got this caldo. Character looks awesome. He's got four cards now so ride by attack we see that moving to auto wounds instead of resolving charge attack any thoughts behind why that change occurred a lot of changes on this car here. We're just a streamlined. Things and frankly the full attack action was had the potential to snowball earth than we wanted it to here. While this straight wounds it is toned down much more compared to what it was. Because here you're going to cap out at like four wounds and that's assuming that you're engaged like a full rank infantry unit so you be able to clear off one of the reins and march through them. That's really the kind of the bigger aspect of this car. Is the reposition allowing you to crash into an enemy's frontline and then later pushed through their line. Actually getting their rear in their flex. I'm looking forward to you. Bus went out and your rematch with fabio at some point here with a great column and twenty two twenty twenty one version as i said he's strangely enough and coincidentally gone. He's probably somewhere like training in the mountains. Like a lifting logs and pushing. Trays administers back and forth with a montage. Go in the background. But yeah that's that's that's what's out far beyond the wall. Perhaps so what about assault orders. Here you get to replace an zone with another combat uniforms attack. Action or kaldor gets a charge action. That's kind of his replacement card for the base deck. And so that. What kind of flavor does that bring for him as a character. And how do you see that kind of like solidifying that identity. So one thing i actually do one st and this is something that even myself. I kind of have a mental schism about. Is that the card that is being replaced in the deck. This is just a common thing that it's you look at the car that is is replacing and the card that is being replaced. And you start trying to compare them against each other but that's that's doesn't actually how that works because like the card that's being replaced. It doesn't actually have any difference like you're you're taking these four carts and you're replacing one of these other seven cards and i'll be honest. The reason governor places probably because it had less text on the card than the others. Okay that's good reference though for us to understand so it's not about being like this is his special card is just that he has four cars and this happens to be the one that replaces one in the back and i will admit that is something that even myself like when we were laying out the cards and designing them. We'd like okay. Well like you know. Dragos card is obviously adalat. So that's a win that we used to replace something in the deck. But then you're like there's way too much sex carts actually in line and then you come back like. There's no reason it has to be that card. You're still replacing the cards out. Just this one doesn't like it. It's a purely like a bit of a mental like fluff thing and it's strange. Because i still do it but it was actually fabio. The pointed out of like what is the car that's being switched out matter because we're just taking one card out and putting it for you're right from from every perspective. It doesn't actually matter. Which card has the text of removing car knows or his last words that as fabio confirm or deny that or anything but yeah so a fun fact. They're and. That's that's something that i i see happening a lot. People are like analyzing the commandments. Is they're going to get into like a conversation about like well. Assault orders is replacing sudden retreats. And you'll are those cards like you're losing this one in favor of the other one. It's like that's not actually true. Though you're you're not that's not a one. If that was those are the only cards are being replaced. Then that would be one thing but the fact that this is four commander tactics cards. That's being added to the deck and just one is being taken out and yeah it's it's just. It's a weird mental. Thanks i even now. I'm explaining to you and it still doesn't let them still like that's not true. Yes it is. I mean out of his ri- by attack assault order lead by example which is so cool as well. Assault orders odd. That really that kind of the king of kings car there. That one. I think if i had to pick one it seems like it'd be the most called rogue and you already mentioned him and this card but so this is of just like talking about changing the way we think of the game or maybe a special way you play the game though. When calderaro goes unit activates he gets to pick an enemy and long range and for the round. This card gets task for the entire round when your other doth raqi forces or really any target enforces attack that unit. They gained critical blo. And if they kill it you get a victory point if at the end of the round that car's been removed that he's not been destroyed. Your opponent gains that victory point. So there's like a little bit of a super high risk reward or if you kinda chicken out don't play soccer friendly turn you can discard it and draw at attack discard but wow this really opens up a lot of these scenarios game. Plan that you can you can steal. Some victory. points offer unsuspecting unprepared opponent so yeah. This is an element that you'll actually see in some of the commander tactics cards. It's not true of every commander in Syrians but a lot of them is that one of their cards is going to give you additional methods of generating victory points in exchange for some criteria but if that criteria is not met or the universe that happens your opponent potentially get those points from instead and so here of like hell drago. You have one. He's declared a unit like we're gonna kill those guys and destroy them. You get additional victory if you don't however though and they managed to survive that onslaught until the end of the round then your opponent gets the victory point because basically your tire army just cultural go yell out yellow kill command and then no one was able to sold so you know. Everyone's just now demoralized and like man. That's not good. You gotta always watch for that now you get. You can't let you can't sleep on calderaro you gotta pay attention to where he is. You got a unit get low and within long you gotta you gotta be watching out and again these effects can not every targeting commander has no effect like this but most of them do like giora is the other commander that my mind his car that he has his betrayal and that one is when a when a claims zone you can replace the phones affect with oh chase you sly dog. You almost company giving more spoilers. Valentines days combine. Think of i here. Yes sorry sir friends and we'll have to wait for his full reveal. I guess we'll we'll see so many other hidden traps can be set here. But i think that's a cool card and the fun thing about it is. I think i'm interested to see people's initial reactions. Because i think we're going to be like. Oh it's like overpower or oh it's underpowered. It's gonna be a lot of debate. I think because You know if you know your opponent has discard. You're playing into cal rogo. So now you can start to bait situations where maybe cow go you. Activated unit and cow drago drops it on it and now you can protect that unit with other tactics cards or other things that maybe let you re position out of the way and kind of trick your opponent into giving up a victory point if they play poorly so to be a good cal. Drago commander you gotta really know how to fight and how to make sure that your troops are able to get in position to capitalize on like that. I think that's really really cool. Okay i kind of feel a little bad about like not revealing the whole betrayal tax base. That was that was a tease there. That was a little bit of an unjust teas. And then you go like. Oh it's valentine's day fuel others like this'll tinge in my chest your feelings. I don't i don't like so anyway. I guess i will one the effects there. I'll talk about is based in selma's card because let's talk about character that's actually you know cool right. Ooh yeah i'm sure there's some yards the george burns out fans out there that were just like immediately furiously typing on the keyboard siemian. But i'm not sure that giora fan base is quite as large as some of the other fan bases. So i think will be good for on this one just this okay. So i i. We'll go ahead and give this a on the table exclusively here. A burst insult me. One of his cards legendary boldness. Now as i mentioned before bear soon as you're kind of bunker slashed kind of tankeea commander and so. His card here is started around target berson. Samis unit attached to them until the end of the route again. Another guy who is focusing on himself like he's a legendary figure on the battlefield really cool cleans dragging armor anyway while attached a win the unit passes the panicked all enemies. Range become pants. You're getting listen media buffs man but if his unit is destroyed that round your opponents gaining additional victory points but if he manages to make it to the end of the round and is engaged the new score victory points. Oh man this is a prime card for like you know if you're on an objective and you play this down like burston his legendary boldness. It's going on his unit now. Of course it has to target him and just basically like this is the legendary barest and sell me. Formerly of the king's guard now the cleans guard advisor to the dragon. He's yelling at me bros. Because that's obviously that's that's that's the of yeah and the new one coming out. Now you're gonna go after if he wants and if he does he's worth extra victory points but if he fails to destroy him and then the round happens embarrassed and is engaged. Then you get the extra victory. Point is also has the inverse effect where it might cause opponents to want to get away from you. Because they're like oh man. I can't take his unit down because he's bunkered up at a Leader something let me retreat out of combat here to steal away. That like gloria that he has you know so he doesn't get rallying affect on his troops and get that extra victory glassman adds a whole new dimension to the game at two things you want to watch out for so you had to play the scenario the gonna play the target and commander because each one of these guys comes in with like their own. Little quirk you gotta be ready for as really gonna make a fascinating too in like two l'est formats and how you build and pair certain commanders and maybe you do want like a cow drago and embarrassed in going together as your forces over maybe a giora or even maybe a denarius targeted and because they might like synergy is better with your your kind of flex option here when you get on the table. Format is definitely going to be interesting with us targeting specifically given the diversity that they have access to man that's fantastic. Let's talk about some of these cooler units that we've got here then too so you made some well. Maybe we'll start off. A screamers will work our way up in order of seniority. I guess we'll go. We'll get ourselves these veterans at the end here so starting distract screamers so we see some baseline changes them so now they have a furious charge so enemies successfully charged by this unit become vulnerable we also see an increase in their morale. These guys are great. And i think you know they're still pretty pretty good unit for a a six point unit here and It looks like you're going to be a lot of synergies with attack discards. I can already see myself kind of burning through a lot of cards from colorado or the base tiger intact tactics kind of up there dams or keep them being really potent. Your starter set is kind of your bread and butter unit that you're gonna be having in your force if you're starting out especially so you added a furious charge here and these guys already have a three plus hit what was kind of the thought behind that so when you look at these guys in the new twenty twenty one kind of i don't wanna say meta because it has even come out yet but being six points. They already have their calorie. So they're gang the extra maneuverability based on that. And they're also very fast cavalry at six speed. In addition they've got a very impressive morale of five plus their defenses. They're weak point at a only a five plus if you look at what they have for six points. You're bringing a three plus two hit which does carry a lot of weight especially moving into twenty one. You have a very fast speed here of being companies from cavalry and this the national speed six and then you have the ability to really hit hard in the charge given vulnerable now voter will just gonna make the damage deal more almost a predictable more consistent because you're still capping out at seven dice here at full with re roles for the chargers on three plus you're probably led a lot of hits but other than that they don't have any special keywords or anything going with them and so you know you're basically just relying on your bonuses or rear bonuses relying on the positioning come through. But he's guys will still kind of suffer against some of the more. Let's tougher units like your lancaster guardsmen or really anything rocking out at three plus defense even hitting them in the flanks. Your actual damages going to be a little bit a little bit low because of the lack of keywords unless you throws attachments ipad him so furious is going to let you use that speed to your advantage now with the the rocky here specifically they don't wanna get bogged down in combat. That's where they're gonna search suffering unless you build around that via some of their attachment options such as the screamer co gives you marshal training which allows you to basically consistently keep putting down vulnerable for those prolonged engagement. So being able to synergies out your unit here okay. I'm up against a grind. The army rathi hitting them hard. I don't really have to worry about hitting them first. 'cause i know him that already fashion them. Let's start getting stuck in combat now. I've got to start planning around that. This be those options there and also at six points we got the death raqi outriders and they've seen significant changes as well i off talking about the stat changes so now. They're outright or bow can not only shoot at short range. But if they don't perform the maneuver they can shoot long reigns now. It can kind of see them kind of perform a more versatile role at the cost of losing nimble rights. They're of up there on the flanks much harassing although they certainly could be they can kind of reach out and touch their opponents at a greater range. Now they've also gained a melee attack with their outriders blade. They've got a little bit more arm a little bit more morale. What was thought between giving them a long range attack. While so as you can see these guys are the flip side of the coin. The screamers screamers wanna get into malay. They wanna know that's where they're happiest. Outriders want to avoid that really at all costs kind of makes sense that you gave vulnerable now to the screamers right. Because that's like they're really. They're specialized into that now. Yeah they're going to shake up. The opponent screamers they it's a bunch of doth rocky bloodthirsty horse lords charging you. You're going to be a little vulnerable from the outriders. Here can kind of hanging back. A plinking and softening up your targets for the rest of your units. And also they're good objective campers because yes they're cavalry the only of two ranks but they can get those like you know. Those flank objectives are the ones that no one else really paying attention to and still have a long range because you can switch their bows onto long range which is usually a place that yo- objective camping is not something you want your cavalry to be doing. Usually because you're wasting the mobility that you're getting cavalry but here the outriders. It's not so bad because okay. You're basically trading your ability to be cavalry to turn into long-range archers. Yeah the other thing. I was wondering about this. And i don't know you can speak to this but on the old card for the The one point five addition Nimble you had the short bow. There's not a lot of room left on that card. And now you have that the the range icon moved over there. And i think we might see this a little bit more clearly with the Veteran did you ever that in changing the design of cards that sometimes that your ability to design units are those everett all linked. Well it was actually initially a design thing that we did way back in the game was that we wanted so that units only ever had a maximum of three abilities and that was not necessarily a hard rule but that was one of those ninety nine percent times. This is the rule that needs to be followed. They're the exceptions. The reason being is because it gave us a limitation that he never wanted to have a unit that you just dumped a bunch of specials on. Because i do feel that. That's kind of one of those on. Trappings that comes from design. Development is like you have a bunch of cool ideas for unit and the newest piled on piled on it eventually. Just gonna blow up units. I've i've made skirmish games in the past. Where like that's the place for that where you have a character that might have like five to ten different special rules and everything but for units in this type of wargame everything that was not the type of game we want this to be so that the space was actually a purposely built in design limitation. Now that did kind of come back to buy this event when with the having the long and short range like markers over there is effectively that eight up one of those ability slots jain air quotes. That might just be taken up by the fact that you have to declare a range for the for for ranged attacks. So let's say you wanted to have arranged guy who had three abilities are overly cool. Well you need to be able to mark somewhere on there. That's long or short range. We don't then okay. Now that have to abilities or is ranges needs to have the ability so yes in that shift moving the icon over. We did gain some space there to technically put more abilities on there but that doesn't necessarily mean we should or going to it. Just the option is they're fantastic. And i think moving on now not to the veterans. I'm saving those for last. Those are kinda the all-star unit to me right now but let's talk about these doth rocky her cars now. You can only have two of these in your army and you kind of reveal these. at times. They had been teased before. But now we see them in all their glory here and You had once referred to them as guided missiles. Tell me a little bit more about this unit that still pretty much their role This is one of the things we showed this. Jeez i think we just the original semen expo in may of two thousand one so i wanna say that's when we did it. I know it was back when back when the world was still much more In person than it is now. But i it just man. It's back of last year. That's that's how much things were affected by. The world state was that these guys didn't even get to see their full release before they got updated for the twenty twenty one cents a because of like yoga and all those things there. But let's talk about that. Let's talk about what we have here. So this is one of your cheap options that you have here for careers in general. Any of these guys are basically just a guided cruise. Missile you can. You've got two ways of deploying them you can stick them normally as you would if you want a cheap five on unit gets an extra activation and deal some pretty significant damage with very little sustained though or you can use outflank Which again is putting more importance on maneuvers zone and allowing these guys to come in and hit something from the flanks and that is just a devastating hit. Because you're gonna hit him with vicious six is hitting on three plus and then of course the flink which will be minus one to their defense but then a further mine is went out tests so that this is going to instead turn into a minus. Three in this is ignoring the fact that like okay so you crashed into the side of the unit. They're probably gonna be in prime position to get your other effects off such as like overrun any of those. So this this unit can put a lot of work. Yeah they look terrifying and this is gonna be one that i'm excited to see on the table limited to two so. Is this going to be like a standard kind of war machines or you buy it and there's like two in a box. Oh fantastic okay. So it's a it's a super that's like one of your like must buys then right because you you buy one box you got your max cap and you can start building lists around it. That's that's fantastic. Lots i know like who are mostly excited for the cars. But i think the veterans to me. I'm just like wow so. These are now eight points a down from ten. They've got a little bit more. They lost a bit of armor and a little bit of dice on their malay but swift. Retreat is on them natively and they've got this order. Quickfire these guys are are beasts. These are true like you know this is. What a veteran does it looks like. Now these guys that are scary nightmares units. What's going on here. Why why all these we spoke about this in previous just generic visions articles. But you start getting units into the nine ten point category. They really really have to start putting it a lot of work in order to justify being basically to activation worth of of your army totals and that's before even factoring attachments like pinpoint point. The odds of me putting any form of attachment in there is just gonna be almost zero. Unless it's like a commander something let's say you put you put two point attachment into a ten point unit. That's twelve points that means something has to put in the work of two six units. Oh that unit has to be just a from a balanced perspective it has to do so much to counteract that that that's just it's it's not going to be balanced or at least if it is it's going to present a lot of problems so a lot of the things that were in that kind of point category have been toned down. They're not entirely gone. But they are much rarer to see anything in that in that area. Eight points is kind of. That's already on the higher end of what you'll see and so in general here you know. The the veterans received will toned down just like everything else was with the twenty twenty one updates. So you know. The dice kept taken down there. Straight up damage. Potential got reduced down in bed because before they had charging volley where they could make a range attack in charge in. You'll see more that's became much more limited and their role kind of changed around this. We're now they're much more of a kind of jack of all trades can adapt to whatever battlefield position. They need to type unit where they've got built in swift retreat wings. Don't burn that card from your tactics to for these ask us. They've got quickfire. So you've got all kinds of synergies with their actual maneuver here. So you don just naturally looking in you got two combinations of cavalry and swift retreats. Their boat doesn't have any special keywords or anything but given the just extreme maneuverability of these guys have you're gonna hit some in the flakes so you already factoring in the minus one to a defense in morale right there but so here you know this is a points. It's a very large investments in your arm. Even then you're talking about these guys have to put out the same work as a her car unit in a four point in to you senior. They need to be scary. They need to you get work done. And you know that that's basically where we're sitting at now. Imagine if you were looking at nine or ten point units that situation as moore's aspirated because of what you're dealing. Yeah also. These guys are now of great bunker for cultural. Yes i was just going to get to that. And that's so great to right because that fits and these guys have it all. These guys are skillful fighters and you can see that in the abilities. They have like these are people that have seen some stuff. They know how to fight. And that doesn't make them like incredibly tough per se like they only got five plus armor but they can maneuver on and they can. They can bring the hurt. I just think that captures that. That veteran abilities the veteran identity so well These are like incredibly beastly so You know big fan of how this units looking. I'm excited try. This went out on the table and that brings us through all the units the tactics cards. You know this is just kind of a priego. You see in the starbucks starbucks plus the three hogar but this stuff looks fantastic. Really interesting opening up target play. And i think what's cool now if you are a target player and if you're listening to this episode and you're kind of creating with trepidation for what's to come. You got a preview here. But that means things like the heroes box your other commanders. There's going to be a lot of other surprises coming down the line and a lot of other ways to play the faction. Even just hearing you talk about that barest and sell me a spoiler. You know that's a whole nother way of playing at so thematic some fun and so you might love the the play style of targe aaron's and in that are in that this faction there are like different sub styles of play different ways you can maximize units to get like a very different feel on the table itself and i think that's a really compelling. Yeah i feel that you know again. There's going to be a character for everyone in the In the target most other factions. You know they usually attract a certain type of mentality based on the factions. But i do target area and said you can. Everyone's gonna be able to find someone in there that they're like a man that character. I don't care about any of the others. The they're really cool so we're going to wrap things up here. Thank you so for tuning in and tune in next week as we continue to explore the vision of flames. And who knows what might be on the horizon. 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Creed II

Pop Culture Happy Hour

18:11 min | 2 years ago

Creed II

"Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from internet essentials from Comcast. Connecting more than six million low income people to low cost high speed internet at home. So students are ready for homework class graduation and more. Now, they're ready for anything. I'm Linda Holmes, and I'm Stephen Thompson. And we're here from pop culture. Happy hour to remind you that we make our show in public radio. And we started our show in public radio. And every time you support public radio's support our show and all of our favorite people from public radio who participate in our show because you know, what we need we need microphones. And you know, who has microphones public radio, you know, who has studios public radio, you know, who trains producers had a cut tape public radio. So every time that you give money to your local station. You support us you support all your favorite podcasts. You support your favorite digital projects. And you support everything else that is a part of public radio so head right on over to donate. Dot NPR dot org slash happy. And you will give your support to us to public radio and to our bosses who are going to know that we are doing a good job. And you are doing a good job supporting public radio. Thank you very much. I am Linda Holmes. This is Stephen Thompson. And here's pop culture. Happy hour. It's been three years since the rocky movies were reborn with creed. Starring Michael Jordan as Pala creed. Son donnas now in creed to Adana is up against the son of Ivan Drago the man who killed his father in the ring in nineteen eighty-five. And yes, I've been is still played by dolph Lundgren. So restless alone is back as rocky himself and Tessa Thompson plays a dentist his girlfriend Bianca. I'm glen. And I'm Linda Holmes in this episode of pop culture. Happy hour we step into the ring and take on creed too. So come right back. Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from Baba's Bomba's has re engineered socks for alternate. Comfort by getting rid of that annoying co seem adding arch support and using some of the world's softest kind. And for every pair purchased. Bomba's? Donates a pair to someone in need today. They've sold and donated over ten million pairs to feel the bumps difference. Go to be O M B A S dot com slash happy hour for twenty percents off your first order. Welcome back. You just met NPR's Glen. Well, then joining us in the studio is our friend, gene Demby from NPR's codes, which genes Joe and also here with us is associate editor of Aaron space magazine, and are punching correspondent Kris climatic. Hi, chris. I must Britta q. Hi, everyone. So one of the things we should mention one of the big names associated with creed. Was Ryan Kugler who directed it. And then went on to do a movie that you might have heard of called Black Panther. He is not on board here. The director is now Stephen cable junior, Glenn remind me did you like creed? I did more than I thought I was going to. I mean, they're gonna put on my tombstone that sports movies are my bet Noir, but shirtless. Yeah. Bette midler. Didn't didn't make sense when I tweeted, it doesn't make much sense. Now, there was something rough and shaggy about created fella director's movie in a way that this really doesn't. Yeah. So how did you feel about this one? Well, I felt it was really slick really engineered. And I think that's a function of the fact that the arc in this movie the narrative arc of hubris downfall, redemption you so stark, and it's powerful. I'm not gonna say it's not powerful because it really targets your magdala. And even though there were moments going through the film, especially exchanges of dialogue where I was basically mouthing the words along with them business. Oh wrote and predictable. But men that last fight seeing I looked on my hands were balled into fists. So, you know, mission accomplished to that extent. And what they hang on. The ark is still pretty engaging them, and you put Tessa Thompson and Michael Jordan onscreen. I'm gonna watch it. But yeah, it just felt like the movie that I thought creed was going to be I get that, gene. One of my favorite episodes. We've ever done of the show was talking about creed with you and talking about some of the Philadelphia stuff. How did you feel about creed too? Ooh. This allows Philly in this movie. And I think that's not a small thing. Right. Like one of the things that the first movie did really well. And the thing that cooler seem to understand is like so much of why sports figures are interesting is that they become avatars for all these anxieties and all these hopes for people like you have a dentist crease sort of have to earn his Philadelphian this, right? He'd like there's the scene. Those were made me very emotional in particular, which all the kids are riding around him and motorcycle, but he has to be humbled. He's Elliott comes to the city s with the bunch. You may earn this respect from everyone. And like this true of all sorts of sports figures. Lebron James becomes an avatar for all of the collectives for things Audis of Cleveland. So we'd annoying sports anxieties like anxieties and general anxiety economy. Right. Serena Williams carries with this is like how sports prominence works. The first movie. Really understood that in this one is felt like I didn't really get the motivations of anybody involved right on his creed sort of like hurtling for plot reasons towards von Drago, son. Like they have to fight. It doesn't make a lot of sense. Why he's over the movie doesn't really sell that. I really dug the chemistry between Tessa Thompson. And Michael be joined the first movie if for the little sparse system. There wasn't a lot of development, even so best us alone is a downbeat gone. The first film, and he sort of like commercially in charming, and this movie sort of modeling and this weird to go to a rocky movie. That's like it doesn't feel like a crowd pleaser movie. It feels much more downbeat in to glens point. Like, the only time I did feel rocky ish was the last fight when it felt like, oh, this is really exciting and their steaks here getting very very visceral stakes the possibility of getting your ribs are very visceral immediate stakes, but I didn't really feel that for most of the movie felt really slack. It felt like in two hours. Nothing really happened. Yeah. I felt like I understood the motivations at a very kind of crude level because they bring back the Drago stuff. You have this kind of. Well, I have to stick up for my father because this is the guy who killed. A father. It's very nego on toyah. And it's kind of the killed my father prepared to die kind of business. The Drago stuff is so eighties. It's so kind of big risky, bad guy. Like, what does that is eighties were in terms of just I mean, if you watched action dramas on broadcast television in the eighties? You've got a lot of this risky, bad guy. Kind of big monster. I watched rocky four again the night before I went to creed to when I wrote about creed too. I called rocky for the most high tight of the rocky movies because these movies get a little less shaggy and a little less observational and character based and move along by the fourth one. It is just the slick like it is this fascinating document of its time. You could watch fifteen seconds of it. And you'd be like, oh, this movie was made in nineteen eighty five. For me. The biggest disappointment in creed. To is the way it fails drag. Oh, and his son and the movie. Alright seems not to notice that Victor dre is basically rocky from from the first movie is this guy who probably doesn't have great self esteem who works menial job who is desperate for for some some paternal love from his disapproving father. It's fascinating to me that I've never recovered from his humiliation thirty years ago, and you know, since then the Soviet Union has collapsed. I mean, I wanted to spend a little more time with them now without giving it away the way that the the final bout in this movie resolves itself. I did like that. I thought that was a grace note, you know, they almost always in these movies find some way, even when it is ninety seven point five percent wrote. You know, they they will find the little minute the featherweight variation that surprise you with. But I, you know, otherwise I downsize expectations. I thought there's no way this is going to be as good as creed. And it's not as. As create but these movies work on me. You know that formula works on me actually, much better than it did in the eighties. When I was a child. For whatever reason. But the Drako aspect is my biggest disappointment with creed to for. Sure. Yeah. And I think that the grace note that you mentioned at the very end, although I agree with you that it has that element of interest. It is not earned to make. There's no indication how you would wind up in that situation given everything else here. Eight percent of the movie, they you know, get the feeling that that is developing that the feeling that might lead to that ending that that feeling is developing and the way that they kind of try to I'm not going to say that this movie completely blames women for everything. But there is a sort of like moment where I was like on again don't wanna give it away. But like not every mother. And so it didn't feel that's the Greek tragedy aspect revealing itself. Again, all I agree with Glenn in the sense that when you have the people on screen who are the core of this cast when you have Salone, Michael Jordan, Tessa Thompson. And I would also say foolish Rashad as a says mother. I get those relationships. That's good and interesting stuff. I didn't quite care about bianca's singing career as much as this movie seemed to it seemed like it had. I I wondered if there was more there that just got taken out. I think we we see her sing twice, and she's a good singer. And I like Tessa Thompsons voice. And she seems like she could be a, you know, an interesting artist, Sarah linka, cool, girl. I just didn't Tessa Thomas doesn't seem like a struggle. I think they were desperate just to give more to do in this film, and they do, but it's not character stuff. It's singing stuff. This has the Thompson's character. It was really interesting watching the few scenes we do see them sort of walking around like how famous. Exactly are they supposed to be in this world walking down the street, and nobody saying anything. So I was like this dude is the heavyweight champion in the world. She's apparently some up and coming pop singer or some arby's, and then he walks into because she cheesecakes cheese steak place and everybody knows him and everybody high fives them, but outside of the scene that is like about him being recognized. He doesn't seem to be recognized booed, and there's there's like nobody thronging the hospital when he's in the hospital. There's nobody like hanging around really accept her. Because mean, the other rocky movie that this follows a little bit is is rocky too, which is mostly about his complete ineptitude when it comes to dealing with money and celebrity he has this new found fame, and it almost kills him. He just he just doesn't have the maturity to handle it. I did like a Florian, quote, big nasty and quote montandou who played Victor, right? Victor Victor Drago big cuddly, more like. Isn't all the pawn? Do a lot more. Can you moment? He's not asked to do a lot more than just glower and punch, but he injects into those glowers a kind of wounded quality like a kind of like, oh, he's he just needs some comforting. I think he does I reminded me so much of how the Olympics were covered in the eighties where it was always sort of the idea of the United States athletes against these kind of Russian at the time Soviet sort of robot, big gigantic unstoppable machines, and that wasn't just in sports like boxing that was in sports like ice skating that was in all and gymnast IX, it was this idea that sort of you had these Soviet athletes that were presented in American propaganda is kind of personality lists robotic perfectly trained that the trade off was they don't have much personality, but they're perfect and unstoppable. And that was what this felt like to me, and I have. To say, the training that had honest goes through in this film to to face Victor is based on or bear some similarities to some of the training that rocky went through the Siberia training route that not training, which I love this. The thing from rocky for you're talking about right where he's in this in this cabin. He's pulling like an Oscar to and running up a mountain felt based on that. But it seems ludicrous. But it's so good, but it looked like cross fit. If you've never seen a guy just hammering the ground like, you don't understand how hipsters workout. Hammer to the ground is just a tire or six exactly tire. I wanna say I do appreciate that. This is not the finest training. Montage in the in the rocky add the best ones, they have specific tactical purpose? The thing we see them do where they keep one foot inside the tire. I got that destroyed body shots. I thought that was super cool. I got that. And I guess the thing we're like he has the helmet on and he's like lifting with his head. Right. I mean, you're going to break your neck. But yeah, I've I've heard both my shoulders in the last eight years, and I had sympathetic pain. Watching that I was surprised that the dolph Lundgren's scene were drug goes to visit Stallone in rocky in his in his restaurant. Granted that had been built up for me a lot probably more than it should have been. I read this interview with longer in screencrush by a met singer where he talked about how much he loved that scene as scripted. And when it came time to shoot, so I wanted to cut just basically all of it. And so he fought for it. So I thought okay, this is going to be like the scene in. Heat. This is going to be like a real. And it ain't who boy there's nothing. Disappointing. An and I mean, there's an echo of that in in creed like aware Donnie introduces himself to rocky is in that restaurant. And that scene is so pivotal that it was it was basically the trailer for creed remember correctly that scene is a huge letdown in this all these ways in which this movie tries to echo things from the first movie that don't the false so much flatter. I remember when we talked about this last time, Linda, you specifically pointed to the way that like, Donnie and Bianca have these confrontations between with doors between them there's a scene where that happens, and it feels so contrived like effort fully, and like I feel like there's all these things in this movie that Yvonne Drago rocky seeing should have been a really should. He just crackled. Right. I mean, like, I mean, this kids your best friend rocky ruined Yvonne's life like there's all this stuff there. And it just felt like two old who are lying. I don't really like you very much. We should have been heavier. Instead, you get that Russky bad guy. You get that like my son. We'll break go boy like breaking canes all the call backs too. I must break you like at this point. You must be broken by me like it's just too many. They did not have very much confidence in dolph Lundgren. I don't know. Whether that's correct or not, correct. Right. 'cause I haven't seen him do a lot. I'm not. I'm not a Lundgren completely, right? In the previous. No, no. They don't seem to have much confidence that he can do very much except rice kind of vary punishing, you know, it's it's very the guy in the karate kid finish him. Oh, yeah. The leg. It's all very that. Which I mean, there's so much opportunity there because if you think about who who Drago is in one thousand nine hundred five I mean, he is just the state avatar. He probably doesn't do a lot of thinking he's probably accompanied in managed, you know, around the clock. And maybe now he's had thirty years to develop a personality. Wouldn't you do? I mean this movie made a ton of money over the weekend. Right. So they're going to almost certainly make a sequel where does this franchise going. We rocky has to die in create three for sure. He has to like his cancer has to come back or I mean, he probably should have died in this one because he's been adrift in. But at the same time, I do agree. He's a drift. And yet I really like Stallone movies. Two more in this movie here just sort of like. Oh, I'm sad. And yet he said to if you don't fix your life. And that's like he doesn't he's not. He doesn't get a chance to be funny. Right. Isn't it a chance to be sort of like even like sage really just sort of just like the sad sack, man? Yeah. There is a moment. When he is you see him in the hallway kind of in his sneakers and sweats, and I felt in that moment like you could see that young guy in there. I have a fun nece for that performance. And I think he's he still really knows how to play that character. But I agree with you. They don't give him a lot to do. Here you go. Linda, and I saw the robot boxing movie together what what was the real steel every were just like ragging on it for eighty five minutes? And then we get to the big fight. And we're both like, oh man like. Like, he's very good. What formulaic is not an insult when the formula works. You know, like rocky five they tried to break the formula. No one likes it. It's a it's a bomb too bad movie. And I I do want to say I was very entertained by the final little cameo with rocky that I did not expect because I had forgotten that from one of the earlier rocky movies. Well, if you see creed to let us know what you think find us on Facebook at Facebook dot com slash P, C H, h or tweet us at P C J that brings us to the end of our show. You can follow Chris C T clinic, and you can follow, gene. As always at key to one five thanks to all be vice for being here. Thank you. Thank you. And thanks to you for listening. We will be back here on Friday. 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156: The Rocky Horror Picture Show 45th Anniversary

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156: The Rocky Horror Picture Show 45th Anniversary

"The what's up. Everybody we are back. Welcome to rio chronicles brought to you by real. Talking dot com. I'm your host david. I am joined with today jenny. Hey guys ryan was happening and leaving. Hadn't field yeah. I think i i made the commute to a I guess a transsexual. Is leo as we are celebrating the forty fifth anniversary of a movie. Musical that is very near and dear to jenny. Teddy an eye the rocky horror picture show and we get to first time watchers your today with ryan and leo so i can't wait to dive airing denton denton is where the castle is interesting in rock yard not accorded to franken furhter You know because. Brad and janet stand in front of the billboard that says denton equals happiness or denton. Something wonderful but i don't know the state. There's no state wonderful. How are we doing today. I feel like something really big happened. That made us very happy. Math right. no nothing nothing world changing your nothing world changing. We're gonna. We're gonna keep politics out of this. But i did want to mention this has some correlation to a movie I post it on our on my personal instagram. And i think. I told you guys off the line. I like the end of return of the jedi when the empire was taken down and everyone was celebrating. I've been voting for sixteen years at this point. And i don't think even with a when obama won i did not see cars. Pots celebrating honky hordes people out their window pots pans. It felt it felt like for once we were all united at least sixty seventy percent of us were all united to To celebrate it was it was a good day. It was a good day. Let's get into the news. I only want to talk about one little thing this week. That should be addressed. I'm glad that leo leo's here today because it's kind of goes along with something. We spoke about the last time he was on which is streaming making studios a lot of money so paramount pictures has earned more off selling films then releasing them in twenty twenty. Wow so they have sold challa chicago. Seven is sold for fifty six million dollars. They so we spoke about coming to america for one hundred twenty five million dollars and then the spongebob on the run that was also sold and then they also sold the isa rate communion. Johnny rob calm the lovebirds to net flakes. So they've earned four hundred fifty million dollars this year just by selling titles different streaming services. Why do we have movies released in theaters anymore. Yeah think appointed. Wow yeah no. I thought it was interesting. The numbers there. I think We talked about this some movies. You can't really do too much of selling because of the money that they make in theaters. But i this is this is great for streaming services and seeing what studios are going to do that. I i wanna preface by saying that because wonder woman hasn't moved yet so i wonder if seen any marketing really like still on tv. Now it's not that needs it. But i feel like they're gonna run some commercial ads and things just to keep to like let people know we're still keeping the fact that it's been kinda quiet with those commercials that may be like they're gonna end up changing like maybe in a couple of weeks and they make the announcement. I wonder because it's been not like it needs advertising for the movie. People go see the movie at this point. It's just more about we're getting. We're getting close to the end here. And they haven't moved the. That's why i wonder what they're waiting for it. Sound like cases are going up so just just a fact. I threw out there in terms of the the money made so thoughts. John i mean it kind of makes sense. There's less overhead for says studio I think i think it's it's twenty. Twenty has taught us anything as out. We all have to adapt to new things. I agree and new ways and you know what if we have the technology to do the things that we're doing why not. I think there can always be a mix of old and new. But i think it's when you only embrace the old that you're gonna lose business so go for it go forward. Try new avenues training venues and you know agree rather the studios not close and be there to be able to continue to give us. Entertainment agreed leo. Bottom similar to jenny mentioned i think kudos kudos to them for thinking of a creative way to stay afloat and make some actual financial I guess impact with them. Like i think that's pretty cool. I think that's awesome for them. And it's good to hear someone being a little successful win whatever's going on right now a question for you though is this like are the right sold and they're gone or is it one of those things where like it's like being like their lease out the property i distribution rights because a twenty four owns the rights to on ca- gems but netflix's distribution partner gacek. Then yeah i'm all for it Ryan thoughts you guys do is right on my mouth. I love it will only leave ryan species works at least take to keep. That was the other thing part with like the studios. You get to keep more jobs around you know. I know everyone is struggling. And it's been really hard and people don't want to have to let people go. So i mean the more that they can at least try to stay. Afloat in the meantime agreed and then This is really news just something. I wanted actually jenny's opinion onto david. Letterman has like a netflix show. Where hint he interviews people at connor so he did one with artie. Dre and more obviously marvel came up And he was talking about how he thinks. He's done like he doesn't think he will ever come back. And with this multi verse opening up. Could we see a potential return with the multi. Tony stark having pepper sacrifice himself. And he's the one that raised morgan thoughts. Leo a me. It's kinda like one of those like you're anything possible like it's literally literally anything is possible. i am pretty sure that our dj is I think other than some kind of like special he gets heart is really into it that he wants to lake. Like maybe like after covid right one of those things. Where like he wants to prove like. Hey no everything is back to normal. Let's celebrate al come back one last time. I don't really see him having the need to come back to the role too much i agree. Yeah ryan thoughts. I don't want him to come back to the role. Maybe like for couple years at least lake. I i don't. I don't think it's necessary. I think morals it's dick thing to say. I mean i. I know that i. I don't meet it in such a negative lightning bullet. They don't really need them anymore. I think they've done so well with moving into the future. I think they don't need him. Even like a multi verse type of thing. John i think it needs to be a really good story for him to come back and hey if they're going to give him the money i think he'll definitely do it but i think he's he's done so well with the role right now that it makes such a difference That i think he doesn't he doesn't have to come back. I agree with ryan like just do it after several years. And let's see but then again like so we gave him a fitting closing. I got i think if he comes back it'll be in the what if series like the animated series That is that's kind of an and they are all reprising. Those road to like got the actual cast from the live action stuff to recapture. That makes perfect sense. I think with completely yeah. I miss marvel. So much. I watch a letterman show and i think of waste bring more conversation. It's been so long man. I can't wait a wanda vision. I really can't. It sucks that. It is sucks that it's a one like a weekly thing but yeah so that wraps up the news further for the week. Now let's get into a little bit. We haven't done this in a while. Some quarantine watches some highlights ryan. I'll kick it off with you. What are some highlights that you watch over the last week. I finished twin peaks. Oh right tell me how you feel. Without spoiling i'll say this. I know season one was my favorite. Oh no you did a jenny on me. I can't wait to discuss this at the end of the month and not obvious why season was was very strong. I was much better visit dougie doggy. Like like i think although dougie took a little too long for my liking danke ryan i. I think it took me. I think after episode eight and not to get to you know to conversation about peeks here like i think after stay doug really picks it up for me before then. I'm with both of you. I was sitting there. And i'm like okay. I trust david lynch. Let's see let's see where this goes. So but i'm glad you finish. It can't wait to discuss it at the end of the month. Anything else right. I washed alien for the first time. Excuse me for the first time that it's like that's like burying the lead of our first critics. So ones shock you with first times. I haven't watched yet. What what did you think of. Alien i dug. It was really well done movie. That sounds like you're appeasing us right now. I just watched the first one right now. I i really do think it was well done wasn't really my cup of tea. No i had a. But i really did think as well done. I think you're gonna. I think you're gonna be an alien guy so aliens alien with To determinator one in terms of it's more of an action movie than it is a cause. I feel terminators more leading towards a horror movie. Because he's kind of stalking these sarah connor's trying to kill them. Same way with disease or in alien and aliens. It's just fucking liked action. Hundreds of aliens and in the queen females anything else as other kinds of moon really at they. Were going to talk about supernatural. Oh yes does supernatural. Two episodes laughed. It's been balls to the wall. He's been awesome every time. I think they're going to go left. They go right every time i go right. They go left just like the election. Oh what about you. What are you have for this week. Anything highlights thought start with supernatural. I'm i'm right with ryan considering the show has been going on for half my life. It's still impressive to see like they can still kind of surprise you and ryan. They did some calls in the last couple of episodes. That did not see coming now okay. I'm on bored. I just wanna see how they wrap it up I am also up to date with mandalorian which know both of you guys are also in love with so far I actually. I actually binged A show that. I was lukewarm about trying. But i know it's got a huge like A cult fanbase Chuck i love. Chuck yeah it was a show on nbc for about five years I finally watched it It grew on me. I definitely saw a lot of like the his evolution as a character. I mean i. I can see how like zachary levi became like just like this huge icon for like for the masses to love it. I finished. I liked it a lot of the ending. Did i wasn't completely crazy about the ending. Yeah oh yeah. I would dave. I would've actually placed the ending on one of those like on the list that we've made up like my least favorite and things. I may mother but it was like. Okay yeah it will include an unresolved and leo is worse than him. I go for me. At least i don't know i'd just love on my blue french horn. No no not for him for childcare. Love this show as a whole. It's very light in a way like you really don't think it's like spy a little bit. It's fine. i always found that to be really fun for sure. I agree with danny and jen know you wanna talk about your cooking. Show the great british show. That's basically all. I fought show leak. I started on. Netflix is adrienne my agent. Who's also been on the show Was like you should watch this. And then i know that. They're currently in their collection. Eight be season eight here. And i just love everything about the brits. So yeah so. I started watching it. I'm already on collection four. It's good it's very again. It's very lighthearted. I think twenty twenty has made me realized how much i just need. More went happiness escape. I need like positive things to watch. And it's such an easy show to watch. While i'm doing something else too and i wish i could be half the shit that these people make and it looks even the bad ones look amazing so i feel and i. I wish i could be like a professional taste. Tester for this show But yeah so. I've been watching the great british watching. Oh schindler's list or anything with anytime soon. Now no sad stuff. No sad stuff and then Yeah that's basically all. I've been watching. That's not super competitive to like. Do you have like favorites. You're all in on. And you like the i guess. Criticizing other people's stuff while i'm like looking definitely some people that you can tell early on in the first couple of episodes you're like okay. They're definitely not going to be here at the end. Just 'cause like what are they thinking about doing now. I'm not an expert baker. So i feel like if i was like if i knew more about baking itself can make bread and cake and cupcakes cake like if i knew more stuff i think i would be yelling at the tv more but you can definitely tell who's like thinking ahead and who's not and And then definitely by the end you kinda root for people like i had just started this show maybe like a week ago and actually the other day one of the contestants from the first collection actually passed away Suddenly and so like everyone was like and i was like oh louie louie and he was so nice on the show and he he got towards the end so he was one of the finalists and So i was a little bummed about that. So yeah yeah and you. That's not the only thing you would watched. Well the mandalorian. Nope i will get now so i watched a couple of movies this week. Sometimes they just dabble like if you have it on. Tv i just walk into the living room down so i watched a documentary that i suggest if you guys haven't seen it. I think it may win the oscar because of what we're living in right now. It's called totally under control. I don't know if you guys have checked that out yet. So it's about covid. And how mishandled. This current administration has dealt with covid. It will make you very angry in terms of what could have been done. What other countries. And how inept. We were to testing to everything it pretty. It's pretty incredible. How ill prepared we were and i think you guys leo specially you. I think you really will will really dig it in terms of its very dated because of how quick this virus has been changing every day so credit fo for you to say that it's dated about the. It's the word ends. I think it ends in the summer. So it's very very like you can tell lake where we are now here in november. It's very dated but everything before. Then you get you. Get the picture you kinda picture. So it's on hulu right now. I also saw the american president which leads me to a very patriotic mood. This week with the election so i decided to watch like a whole bunch of patriot. I saw all the president's men. And i saw the american president might number two favorite movie president. So it's it's sorkin at his best. I think this is what inspired the other thing. That jenny was watching that. She did not mention that she's been trying to get me to watch for like three years and i finally caved in the west wing it is. That's our nighttime. Show it is. I give my third journey this. I wish that i listened to her earlier. But i felt like the timing. Now is more perfect. With calvin keeping that recording every time the west wing is probably one of the best route in shows. I've ever seen in ask so so so good. I'm very into politics in terms of on tv. Murray into like history. And i just love the fact that they dive into so many things. It's not just your cliche weekly drama. nbc drama. I really really diet dive. Deep into the more the politics of the white house and i highly recommend it if you guys. I haven't seen it if you want a little lighter west wing. Watch the american president. Because the american president does have a lot of people from the west wing on there. And you know it's really really solid stuff and then the mandalorian which we really couldn't talk about last week In terms of the mandalorian. Leo ryan thoughts on the reveal. Spoil big spoiler. If you guys haven't seen it fast forward daughter the review at the end of episode one. I'll kick it off with ryan awesome like this jaw dropping like. Oh my god. Do you put this over baby. Yoda answer myself a bit. Leo what do you mean over baby. Yoda the reveal. Oh yeah this was definitely one It's funny because this was definitely a deep cut. If you don't know the actor offline you we've been talking about how like like we all recognized it. But i wonder how many people didn't recognize it I like i like it a lot. I i guess. I guess it's funny. I'm i'm eager to see if this can make that character interest as bad as as bad as everyone thinks to already. Yeah we joked about this. How like yeah he. He has a great outfit but That's that's that's about it. He really doesn't do anything and he gets eaten or so. We thought jen spoiler so asking me to no not actually. I'm actually going to answer a baby. Yoda so the child i was. I will go with jenny on this. It was a great it was a really good reveal. i think it was a very liquidating. I didn't expect it. I don't think fabric teased did or anything like that. We kept it was to keep. That's where i was going to cut in. I choose aby yoda because we all knew the actor was cast so we knew coming back. Really not know the baby yoda stuff. Ain't no one thought that was happening. So i could've kathy actor in a mask because there's been a lot of that. I think test and math role. I think because they cast the same person. Athletes jangle in attack of the clones. I it's the same thing that i feel with evan. Peters being cast in the mcu of mike it's it's there we want to think. It's not but i think it's more obvious than we than we think. So that's why. I i love the surprise. I'm surprised they did it. My biggest surprise with did an episode one. I thought this was something that we were going to build to. And not Get an episode one. My only so. I will take my only big gripe was that there were a lot of websites i get it. You wanna have your click bait articles and this is. This isn't like a comic book dot com. This is like a variety like you. Basically put the character in your like headline. And i'm like dude. I called it. I called it out in a facebook comment. Who's gonna pay attention to that anyway. But i'm like don't reveal it for the people that haven't watched it a day leader like you only give them a few hours to watch the show and your revealing that like this character came back and you're ruining it for everybody yet. Sucks i mean. I do like her. That's why i love about this show so much that we watch. Espn and watch this week's episode. Last night. I don't know if you guys agree. I love the fact that it really like it. Moving the central story because getting from point a. point b. to point b but i just love the fact that we get this self contained adventure every episode of. Could you clarify for the for the the listeners. Because you mentioned something off line that i was really intrigued by Your your theories on the this particular actor being cast here and the behind the scenes stuff going on with the actual lead of the show. Oh so paolo pascal. That's how you pronounce his name. Pasco procedural pager is prisco style so he as having certain there is a chance he will not be back next season because he's having creative differences with disney and lucasfilm in terms of what they want in terms of to. He wants more scenes with the mask off and everyone knows star. Wars mandalorian origins. You don't don't take the mask off. It's not something that happens. So i i wonder if bo was not a villain and we may transition to that actor taking the mantle because the show is demand the laurine. It doesn't necessarily mean it has to be him. So i hope not because i just i love. I just love him in that role even though we don't see his face just as performance as a whole is great. I hope it doesn't happen but it's just you know. I love making theories of star wars. So this is just one that came to mind. Would you be okay with him. Not being villain leo. You know what i i can definitely see it I could see him taking on like a mentor. Role like Like gleaning more about like just like just 'cause he can tell that now has been heaven name by the way it doesn't right. No i don't believe we got a little bit of origins in the season finale. But that's about it. I don't think we got like a real name. So i guess. Mandalorian echo sees these delays looking for people searching for them so it would be one of those like if you go to see him getting taught certain things from from boba And i would be cool for him. Li to but also even just staying as like a type of opium character for the mandalorian. Yeah i like that right. Yeah no i agree with cras like adding like why i. I didn't even think of him as a villain. When i'm when i say that in mean in mandalorian like i'm like oh maybe he'll will be Like the obi wan to mando like who knows what's going to happen. So i do agree with what i want with. This is a ivan drago in crete to like ivan drago and rocky is a very menacing person to look at but there's nothing to that character it's just of villain of the week but in cre- to you see a dishevelled like fighter that pretty much was abandoned after he lost to rocky and you see more of a development. I kind of want this with boba. Maybe he doesn't know he's a clone and he finds out he's a clone and we find out more deep information about the clone wars that attack of the clones didn't give stuff like that like us the star wars lineage to your advantage in character development. So we'll see what happens. I mean we have a rest of a whole season to to tell jensen. The mandalorian does have any din. Jarrin cool okay. There you go thank you. It was revealed in chapter eight attempts. The finale yes so is probably the scenes that we saw him as a kid already. So let's move on to the rocky horror picture. Show rock yard picture. Show has a very special place virginian i. It was actually our our first date and chatting. I propose jetty on the stage of the rocky horror picture. Show so this is one. This is one that i couldn't let the anniversary of pass by. We could talk about that a little later. But i want to get to ryan and leo. Because this is your first time watching and you didn't really get the full experience because the full experiences midnight showing in a theater and we'll get into that a little later but watching it on the small screen ryan. What did you think of the rocky horror picture show or away. He's he's beef. And i love her ryan speechless or he just muted his mike ryan speechless. Us leo yes right. We can hear you sorry. No the music was great The story was good. And i enjoyed myself you so i i have problems with the story but it is what it is. We'll get into a little later. Leo thoughts fill dave. You mentioned that if my time it absolutely not my i. It's not only that's great. I don't even know you had seen it before so actually. It's funny when when i decided to join the show for this particular episode like a rocky horror show has a very special place in my heart to propose anybody but for that story. I've known you for twenty years. And i'm lately over posed someone. No no no so cool. Because i i love that it holds such a special place for you to write and i and knowing what i knew about this film. I'm like all that is. It's pretty bad ass just seeing the the library. Enactments that you guys took part of when you propose. I was like i love it because i know how those reenacting scan go so for me. I didn't see growing up. What happened was my very very first. Night of College I just moved into my dorm and the next day would be my first day of classes. So like a typical. I don't know if it's typical but like a nerdy freshman. I wanted to around campus and figure out where all my classrooms. We're beat it's not kirti cool. Got mad defensive actually skipped my ruckers convocation ceremony. Because i was like fuck this. And i was like i need to figure out with alan going tomorrow so i skipped that whole ceremony but democracy. It had a lot of cool events for freshman and so i went around. Campus is a pretty small campus. At the time. And i went to look at all the different buildings that i was going to have class in and then i eventually got to this one part of the building. That was all of the campus. That was older. And i'm seeing a bunch of people lining up go somewhere and this group of people included wha- college girls in lingerie so like any red blooded heterosexual male in college i wanted the heck is going on so It turns out that college just beyond. I'm like oh this is college everybody's walking around lock your a nope. What was funny was the montclair state. I guess they're players team. Does this every year. This tradition is for their players to put on a performance of rocky horror picture. Show on the first night of a of of scuff school. I went to the theater. Not knowing at all what to expect Everyone's asking are you a virgin or are you a virgin. I'm like what the heck is going on. I was gonna ask you if you were if you were asked to be a virgin. Though i will be honest. i didn't fully give myself to the experience. Because i'm like i don't know what the hell they're talking about. Let me just put stay kind of like to the back and not like not. Like what is this but i i got to experience it like everyone screaming out loud and all the callback and all the engagement and like even though like i had no idea what i was getting into like the fact that there were so many people all in on this was it was it was honestly one of the best in the land ladies and light great perfect birthday of college so i i saw for the first time with a shadow cast in twenty fourteen. But i had seen. I had already seen the movie And i kind of had the same thing. But i went all in like i said in the first row on i and i was just like all right. Let's see what happens. I had heard like that. It's crazy and then same thing with you leo. They started doing the virgin. And i said okay. What does that mean and they told me. And i'm like yeah had nerve attended with a stage. They put the vm. My on my on my forehead. And i don't know if they did this for you but all virgins are taking to the stage. Yeah that's why i said. I wasn't urged because everyone on stage of like nah. Nah and for those listening aren't virgins or someone that has never been to the rocky horror picture show with a with a live cast so depending on the person depending on the show they put you on the stage and tell you for rs it was. You have to do your best moan and then they kick a few people off. I didn't make it past the first round. And then they do some other stuff to the rest but Then jenny and i started talking and she had told me she had never been to. I don't know how we got into the conversation about talking about movies and it was one of my favorite movies like when i saw. It is actually a kid. I can't tell you how old i was but again like only child. I had illegal cable. I used to watch a lot of stuff on like max. I don't know like. I had every channel and especially spending summers at bay mainly by myself. My parents were working. And i was home. I watched a lot of different movies. That's how i've discovered a lot of my favorites like my girl to greece to rocky harbour extra show. So one of these things is not like the others darn thrown perogie heartbreaker show in a company with. But i know they all hold a special place in my heart. So that's where. I actually watched it. So i think we were just talking about movies be liked because we watched we talked about tv. We talked about lot of stuff and then And then when. I said that i had never seen it live and i knew it was like around the time and who had always been something i had meant like been meaning to go to but i never got around to it. I also you know if. I didn't have anyone that i didn't have too many movie buddies. Actually at the time nobody goes to the movies away. Dave go fishing and then she met this snobbish and then go to the movies like all while not this year but i normally would go to movies all the time now. Yeah so then. Dave was like oh. Let's go on friday. And i'll buy the tickets and all that and i was like yes then we win and the rest is history and then i propose to her on the stand like no major investment for state though because this show was at midnight and we were meeting up at like six after work. This date was a dud. It was a long date so it worked out and it was a great date but this was an investment for sure. Yeah and then you know after that we you know outside of the proposal rocky horror picture show on halloween in new york. We did that the following year because halloween fell on saturday. Yeah leo oh my god and we took people this time. We took like eight nine people. Because i just wanted everyone to experience rocky car. And the fact of halloween everyone in costumes regular costly the Regular lingerie was not everyone's cup of tea. Let's just say that. I think it would be per se. Yeah but but then. I figured i'm gonna. I'm married this girl might as well do it. The right way and then. I reached out to the shadow cast at the Monster mania convention at transylvania nipple productions is the company name. they're out of philly and reached out to the personalities magento erica. An we exchanged the m.'s. And we made it happen if and thanks to jenny. It almost didn't because she didn't want to listen to erica. She told us to sit in the front row. And she's like oh yes she said hello to me. And she's like oh. Let's move to the front row. So you guys. I can hook you up because that was part of our plan jetties. I don't wanna move so the repair. We were sitting in decencies and the fire. That was after. You say you don't wanna move in and the fire. Marshals came in. Close everything down for like ten minutes. It was shit show until i actually proposed proposed but yeah that's rocky horror picture show in terms of our for first couple of experiences Let's get into the movie itself. So it's a musical. Comedy nineteen seventy-five released by twentieth century. Fox produced by lou adler michael white and directed by jim sherman The screenplay was written by sherman and actor. Richard o'brien whose is also member of the cast. The film is based on the nineteen seventy-three musical stage production the rocky horror picture. Show with music book and lyrics by o'brien the production is a parody tribute to the science fiction and horror b movies of the nineteen thirties through the night. Early nineteen sixties. Along with o'brien the film stars. Tim curry susan serandon berry boskovic and narrated already by charles gray with cast members of the original royal court theatre re doing their roles kinda rent. When rent came to the big screen it was the majority of the only one was rosario. Right yeah from the oj cast The movie's release on august fifteenth. Nine hundred seventy five and. It's still playing in theaters today. Every every week every friday every saturday at midnight obviously co outside of covid but before covid a play it play for thirty five straight years which is pretty crazy. The budget was one point. Four million the box office. This is just a number that i got because the box office probably a lot more than this now. One hundred and seventy million dollars while it is that total box office like worldwide. Do so well in the you did not until it became a cult. Yeah so before. The midnight screening success. The film was withdrawn from its eight opening cities due to a you said a very small audience and its plan. New york city opening on halloween night was cancelled. Yeah so then it played midnight. I think he played with Around the time that. I'm brian depalma. Film similar style of film was released in it. It had a coal following but then the midnight thing started a rocky horror and it really just became a thing like it. It's i have cousins. Older cousins that are in their forties and fifties that have done rocky horror picture show. Yeah it's an event defense. An event tradition. I think especially in the beginning. I think it was probably an outlet for a lot of people that didn't feel that were maybe marginalized. That didn't feel they had representation on a screen. And you know just being or just being able to go and have fun. And like just in and just the overall campinas of it. And yeah. And i think a lot of the popularity stems from the audience participation. And you mentioned that before leo. I think i love shouting back to the screen. I adore talking back. I love calling janitor. Slut i love calling brad and astle. It's a staple of rocky horror. And i i. I love how each cast has someone to kind of egg. Everything on. I don't know if you had that when you saw leo per like Right at the opening where when you first see lips and someone from the castle. He says a longtime ago in a galaxy. Far far away there was and we want more lips or something along those lines and then the song starts and then you know the movie takes off from there. Did you have props because we when we go to rocky horror they give you can buy prop bags. Did you have promising. You did it leo. No no no ours was very Was no no props for us Just to kind of piggyback on what you mentioned however like i think what would really didn't meet the for me was the passion of the people that were like fans of it like it was very much like my first quote unquote comecon like. It was like an inside joke that everyone onstage knows about. And you kinda just wanna know more about it and just like what which any mentioned like. Yeah it's like it's a very It's a very interesting way in place where people kind of like express themselves that don't usually get to express themselves and then go back to their normal like Appearances and normal like demeanor but like but like behind closed doors. Washing hardeep watching Rocky horror that's a whole different world no props though you have such a mix of like the seasoned veterans have seen this show like two hundred times and then the mix of the new people right like the the virgins aren't going to really know what to call back right and then you have those medium people that are like at ten twenty thirty forty fifty times and so every time someone changes it up and so you also. The crowd feeds off of each other. The i'm at the at the one we go to that we usually do. They make everyone stand up and they say you know if you've seen the rocky horror picture two hundred times sit down and if people sit down they pretty much poke fun at them. And like get a fucking life and it progressively goes lower and lower and lower. I think jenny. And i are in the twenties now so now live something in the twenties. Yes so we're not virgins any more so we we do love taking virgins to rockier picture. Show it's just. It's just fun ryan's. Like i definitely saw this movie the way damn i gotta dodge the bullet at this point. We when we've taken certain people. Like i took a buddy of mine and i did warn him. Like about how the show is and i told her. It's a funny thing. Because i told him. Don't sit at the end because they see you a look comfortable. They're going to make you more comfortable. And he's like no wanna stay sitting year so i said are you sure. Sound like four or five times. He said yes. He didn't want to move. He sat there and sat on and he got sat on by franken furhter. So that's just you know kind of the thing but highly highly recommend outside of seen this movie doing the midnight experience. Because that's i feel like that's the only way like we saw for anniversary this year. Our data versity and not at midnight midnight at eight o'clock like eighty people and if it's great but it just wasn't. It's not the same so let's get into age best in age worse ryan. You seem thus gun-ho on this movie. So what's what seeds age battery ridge worst on really nothing age worth brazzaville's mental illness stand on the entire movie gen re age bad for me in this movie. Jen so three things really. So brad and janet's relationship is just like make i mean it's the typical they're supposed to be like the top felicien ship like this perfect couple and that and then it by the end of the movie see like all of their flaws. Brad brad does get like they're both really annoying So i guess in that mindset. They're perfect for each other. Like brad is just trying to protect janet and be this like guy and then janet just like oh brad and it's just like sickening and so like that riff raff and magenta 's relationship. Why i love the ship over sex six so like it's not. I'm not saying. I love the movie as a whole. I really don't have anything wrong with it. I just think like the it is weird. The more you watch it the more you're like it is a little off. It's just but it's fine. Yeah what about you we not you okay. Go ahead so this actually goes back to the call backs that you do so you know how you call janet a slot. Oh god asshole here. We go to be fair. She had the same amount of sex as brad franken further and all of absolutely not two times guests. Yes she had with. Frank with frank and rocky. Yeah that's two times and brad had at a one. Frank had twice frank candid twice fine so it's not fair to call her a slut anyway. That's just a. That's my own personal opinion. Leo what about you. So yeah Much twenty because when you ask the question of what's age poorly with h. Poorly in the sense of a movie or like rocky horror picture. Show no to be honest. I think just keeping it. Pretty light hearted Jenny mentioned it. It's like their relationship. Kinda like it's one of those things are like start digging you some like Some actual really good call outs like the the how really they are as individuals. But i wasn't a fan of them so easily cheating on each other But it also makes sense in the in the scope of the movie Frankfurter slapping janet however didn't age pretty well because regardless of the fact that forgot about. Yeah that that didn't go too well and yes. Unfortunately i agree with jenny. The insect the sexual relationship between graphic agenda wasn't too Too good but shout out to tidy. Whitey's i mean you know. I'm i'm glad you said that because actually that's in my one of my age tighty whiteys asia worse. I really i mean. I guess i would say their relationship because you knew i always laugh at this part of the song where he's at the beginning of the movie when they when he proposes to her and he's like she's like oh brad and he right the second verse. He regretted damage But no yeah. I don't really have too many of the age worse by age best. I have a few here. So i have tim curry because at performance is incredible human. Cloning that's age really well. I actually put assholes and sluts set. He's really well The time warp dance at age. Great midnight movie. Because i think that kind of started the midnight movie trend and some some. Don't apparently people think cats is going to be the next midnight thing and i've seen cats and that's not going to happen and that's just not a good movie. Shadow cast that age. Well marriage proposal that the rocky horror picture show midnight showing that's all and meatloaf meatloaf agency-wide meatloaf is fantastic in that. That guy award jen who you have here what everyone else is. Yeah either the heck music. The music the campinas Love it. I love it all. I love also the call back to like old movies in the beginning of the movie in the lips and having like old school thing Does opening credits silo of that. That's my best leo music overall. You can't say that that was a that's amazing all those songs. There's still so catching so fantastic The nixon radio broadcast at the beginning with pretty angry. Because i'm like oh my gosh. It's like considering we're just going through this whole election right now and i'm hearing like nixon beacon upfront. Like president like turning down his role like that h pretty well Susan sarandon in general h pretty well And actually a really took a launcher. Yeah i think so. yeah absolutely. Huge fan Pence sexual transvestite lead. That was unheard of and even though it was tim. Curry portraying it. I think that's a huge huge thing that it has to be given proper. This movie I actually. I like the one scene where this is funny. Because it's like the third time we'd review a movie. And the third time i can make it relevant to today but magenta and columbia both wearing face masks. I think leo you should do. I think when when you have the time with winger now working we should have a podcast where you look at every movie in the past fifty years and just look at face masks and how they're relevant to today you are become a pro. I can identify copays relevant things that we have for the last fifty years But yet i guess at the last thing. I kinda thought as really well. Too was a columbia standing up for herself It was like it was just. It was cool seeing like the female a female character in the movie. Like stand up for what she thought was right against the male lead and ryan. I also had face masks meatloaf and the music yet I was going to save this for later. Put a might as well as you guys. All mentioned the music. What is your favorite song if you have one gen who my favorite song. It's so hard to pick a favorite though. I have three on my end. I'll go back. Yeah leo mind. I time warped jumps to the number one for me. I just just it just so so catchy and so or just all just always reminds me of the movie but also also I don't know. I don't know i don't know the name of it. But maybe it's like the one with The one where Janet and rocky have sex creatures. Sort of yes. What about what about you ryan. Do you have on the one in the beginning. I can't think the name is actually one of. Are you talking about the one at the very beginning and opening credits. No like The woman's like junk to the side. John you know more power and more time work. Yes so for me at time. More science fiction double feature. I love the one at the end. Don't dream it be it And the effort i. I don't know. I forget this to meatloaf saw because that's all. I don't like the meatloaf favorites. Can we got maxi time warp and tutti the opportunity. I sing singing. Jennifer really surprising. Leo i don't know i i wasn't a fan of that overall. It's like it's like the my least favorite of all the songs in but it's it's not gonna break a break. The movie movie. All right that guy. I actually i. I'll kicked this off. Because i know that i know he was in spin city but actually very nice. 'cause i really just know him that. That that's brad. that's why when. What their johnny richard. O'brien riffraff yeah. I mean this is where i know him from. I think because. I've never seen him in anything else. This is it for me. What about you leo meatloaf. Actually 'cause i knew below from this movie before. I knew him as actually like the bat outta hell singer. What about you right. who do you go with. I actually didn't going one since this is my first time. So those like no one. I can be like. Oh that person so smart. Move right up that left. Shrimp six man of the film. Or who was the best supporting player. Gen refresh and magenta. Actually i actually did the same vein. I actually and i gave a special. I did richard. O'brien immature has magenta riffraff as my sixth man. But i did want to give a shout out to me love. Cause even that one scene and columbia's getting no love although she is the most. I think she's the most popular costume outside of frank. She is she is. Yeah but i mean she really is just a plot device in the movie. Yes not like what about you. Leo refresh is funny because i was gonna Magenta with it. But i was like beasts. I would just a single it out refresh. And do you have one right I have berry bostick ari cool. So you won't with brad all right becky o'shea icebox award. Mvp the film. I mean. I'm not even gonna ask jenny leo because the only one that would probably surprised me is ryan ryan. Do you have. Tim curry fantastic. So i've seen a lot of curry. And i'm sure we all have. This is best performance. Let's help saying beth. I will say it's unlike any other performance. We'll because i feel like some of his other stuff right like he here. He's really like while the size. Of course it belichick here. He's the lead he has to carry the story like his performance sucked go movies. I feel like it. It wouldn't i mean yeah wouldn't have been the same like this performance is iconic iq. Like when you think. Tim curry. I feel like you gravitate towards this first and foremost over anything else that he's done agreed. I ics yes. I actually think this should have been a golden globe nominee for best musical. Best actor musical or comedy. I think he would have won. I think it came today. One hundred percent but i think because of when it came out. I don't think everyone to anyone seriously. I actually think in the award circle circle. I think of this movie came out today. It'd be a big player apple like across the board screenplay best picture director supporting actor actor you and i think he would definitely won the the golden globe for best musical or comedy. It would have been cool like if it came out. This year would have been tim curry versus sasha for borat bear boreham franken furhter. Let's see what else do we have here. peaks and valleys so peak. Jenny peter henwood rocky. Oh yeah that's yeah. I don't know i haven't seen him in anything else. And i. i don't know how prolific he was really after but not enough for me to actually had a hard time with this one but actually we'll get very very. I've seen him. Body has been city. But i've seen like things and then like susan serandon. Obviously all tim curry like all of these other people. And i don't really put richard o'brien or patricia quinn either. Because they feel like they still had other things that they did you put they feel like peter and he has no lines in the movie. Very few yeah. What about you lou. Who do you go with the same. Yeah it's it's funny. Because i always kind of remember that after my first time watching it i'm like damn rocky is like the most forgettable character in the door picture. Show big time. What about you right. Who'd you go with little near columbia. Little who little now all cook. So i went for valley. I actually went with tim curry and the in the movie as a whole because of what it is today jen for rally valley. I was susan serandon or both. It was both tim grant. Susan serandon i kind of edged out. Susan serandon a little more though. She's done less now but so has he so it but it's different so i guess i'd tie them. I actually thinking about a little harder plinking about it. I broke my own rule. So i think i have to go back and go back to susan. Serandon 'cause i broke my rule. She did win the oscar in one thousand nine hundred ninety six so i think it was actually dead man. Walking is really great. I've ever seen it. It's very depressing. Do not watch it in. Twenty watches has sean penn. He's on death row and she plays a nun. Why would i watch it. It's not about a pandemic or anything. She like we'll because it's sad. It's just it's a really. It's really heavy movie. I actually watched this in religion class brutal. Oh no in high school. it's a very. it's a good movie but it's very very heavy. What about you lou. Who go with here serandon. And it's funny. Because i guess because i saw i saw i saw rocky horror picture show after watching home alone two shit home alone two and then i'm like oh he's also picture show premieres susan serandon. What about you. I i also want susan serandon cole. I just kept my role. But i loved him. Kerr i i i can say it's like neck and neck. Outside of the oscar winners will puts it over the top for for me. So let's round this out with some fun facts here some rocky facts so the rocky horror picture show is considered to be the longest running release in film history so the reason that studio that theaters are still able to play this because it benefited from twentieth century fox policy that made archival films available to theaters at any time having never been pulled by twentieth century fox from its original nineteen seventy five release it continues to play in cinemas today and because of the twentieth century did theaters can get it without any problem. I'm curious now because they don't own it anymore. Colognes and now disney. Oh right so. I did a little bit of research here. And after walt disney acquired fox and twenty nineteen and began withdrawing archival for movies from theaters to be placed into disney ball. The company made an exception for the case of rocky horror picture show to allow traditional midnight screenings to continue that though but knowing disney imagine i. I don't see them doing this. But then when it shocked me one day they just put in the volt. I don't think so number two. This is at the africa movie debut. Tim curry accents. seventy five. the number number three when barabas policies fist on the table during the dinner scene. He accidentally pounded the hand of susan. Sarandon the reaction from serandon is prominent in real. She got her revenge by mentally quote unquote stepping on bass wicks foot with spike heeled during the floor. Show the floor show scene at the end of the movie. Oh there is one famous person. I love casting whatevs here. That audition for the role of brad majors. Steve martin home. I would have been fun interesting. I could've have seen that in those. Snl day yeah snl days so number five. You guys talked about tim curry and you. You mentioned home. Loan leo so ten curry was reluctant to talk about the movie for years to bad memories about overzealous fans during an interview. He had with vh1. He admitted that he gained weight and became more of a plane actor to try escape. The role of frank these days. He's you know before he had a stroke. Unfortunately he's was more open to talk about the film and sees it assad as a rite of passage for teenagers number six. The movie was originally intended to be shown in black and white which this happened kinda like wizard of oz so the original idea was the movie to start in black and white until franken further makes his entrance after he made his entrance The movie would turn to color. The only thing that was supposed to be in color originally where the lips at the beginning of the movie that would have been that would have been a lot more interesting to see Be i found this fact because jenny because she loves the brits the parts. Tim curry models. Dr frankfurters voice after queen elizabeth. That's funny i a uso. Her more than i have. I mean i guess i don't know and his mother and his mother writer and director. Jim sharman famously turned down an offer from twentieth century fox for a larger budget and a longer shooting schedule if he agreed to work with more famous rockstar to time here are some of the stars that were going to be considered for the movie. Mick jagger david bowie which i could see jack lew read share with this. I've been better movie if cher was in a gen but who would share have been specified haircut. They don't specify well. Yeah like. I'm thinking that they would have been playing eddie's character he hasn't done it. I mean she had the sonny and cher show at the time. I mean he but he ended up opting out and just bring as many original matassa miss from the original show. Which is. I commend him for that. Because it it worked out in the end Number eight many television and movies have pay tribute to this movie since his debut of them that i found here were ju- carey show glee perks of being a wallflower which i remember that. Very well the fame franchise. They're rock from the sun. Charles in charge that seventy show doria. Csi new york men in black. Would you do you guys know what's seen and black. Because i can't i couldn't put couldn't put it together. Oh yeah could have been something really subtle. Must be. Because i want someone. Dr franken i must. I must be hollowing to the rob zombie one. Yeah jenny never saw that one right. Yeah okay cool loser and the vice squad franchise it. I liked it. She's she's very upset. Lot lot lot of opinions about our takes on the rob zombie on the health episode and then finally most actors and actresses weren't told about the prop corpse of eddie under the dining room table club when it was revealed during the filming there looks of horror are genuine. The only three that new or tim. Curry richard o'brien and meatloaf. Who had the model of the corpse interesting stuff and that's all the price. Yeah that's all the facts. That i have so yeah pretty much rock yard picture show. I think it still remains one of the most popular films of all time. And i don't think as long as we're living there'll be a movie that's going to be playing for forty something years continuously. Do you think there's one before. Finish up that close in terms of cult stature. Musical wise are even movie wise. That can play a midnight. And it'll get this this attention. Whoever wants this chime in. I'll be i. I honestly think this is like the quintessential cult movie like this is like. If you think in a bubble what is called a classic. It's this like people dressing up people. All people would just memorizing and looking forward to this movie. It's it's i don't know maybe maybe like star wars like if you'd get dressed up and you go to a midnight showing of the new hope or empire. Maybe but i don't think reaching of like this. Do you have anything. Yeah i think i mean. I think it's been become kind of popular where you have some movies. Come back onto the big screen now. Or they'll do like sing along versions. Like i know there was like a grease sing along version or like you had Other movies that will go on. But i feel like it's not exactly the same because it hasn't had this kind of history but maybe maybe something else will come out and maybe in forty years. If we're still doing podcasts. Will we'll have a different opinion on on something new. I mean i feel like it's always good when Just any movie or any musical really has a lot of fun with itself and you can have a fun time. I mean the closest thing and not as cult thing but he went to go see. You know i went to go. See mama mia to in theater that crowd. Good time we had a good time. Never really seen the first one and everybody in that theatre was so excited for me to and people were singing along to all the songs and that and it wasn't it was just a regular. Amc theater so i had to chime in before we go right here like i had seen the first one and i really liked the first mama mia. I found no reason why she shouldn't know who her father is. But that's another story for another time But for the second one. I with jen and her mom and when share came out to share the crowd win. Barner knows share. It went a shit. And i was like. Oh so this is the thing and yeah seen a share concert either. Yeah but it was really solid. I think when we saw bohemian rhapsody. A lot of people were singing the songs. Yeah yes you're rhapsody fat ride. Do you have anything on your end. I can't really think i agree with leo. The close second think of is old school star wars but sadly best faded away. Yes because i can't even think of a marvel movie that would draw this kind of fame absolutely. Not the closest thing would probably be game but no one has three hours to go every week to the theater. And it's like that. i do remember. Remember back in two thousand fifteen when the of the future day finally happened. Yeah like that was maybe the close kind of thing to it where people were dressing up like the character is going to watch the movie like that could only happen on that day. Rocky horror picture show can happen. Every single night agreed. So yeah that wraps it up. I mean rocky harsh near and dear to us and we are going to continue the musical trend next week when we break down our top ten and five worse musicals of all time. I'm going to do a little tease here and say that greece will not be in my top ten musical of all time. Best is la la land gonna be on your list. Of course it is yes. Yes that'd be fair. I think also like div. I don't know but like i grew up with greece. Because my mom was such a john travolta always in the house like the movie was always on or the soundtrack was always on like it was part of her cleaning music playlist so like i grew up. You know with greece. And dave saw really late so i feel like it doesn't hold the same nostalgia for him. Maybe i don't know maybe that's the difference probably is because i some of this is a soldier for some of these movies. I i have a lot of problems with greece as a movie. Well there things increase that do not h well yet for an episode. Yeah i have a lot of problems with some of the choices that are made in the movie. The songs are great like. There's some really really solid songs. i just don't like the movies message and even even before we were in this pc culture. I really didn't like the message of the movie. And i still don't so that's kind of why i i'll even give. Jen is greece. Two has a better message than greece. I forget the message of greece to do is becoming math. Vigilante on a motorcycle all girl. He's a cool rider guys. I got i got us jenny. Yes this is top. Ten music is greece going to be on your listeners. An honorable mention because you need love musical distinction where it's like were talking like shows that were on broadway and then our museum movie at just. The movie can be enemies has long broadway. No owns original song. Get the parameters solicit discussion for the narrative or behind the scenes. What they're gonna next week so musicals. You're not going to have a song with just a movie with just songs right. So every movie has musical for example like i. I'm trying to think of a movie to actors have to sing me. Songs has to be those asides that like you have with music rent land singing in the rain. Things trees sink street. That's part of the actual narrative of the film act. It's not just a song in the leg in the back. Bohemian rhapsody is not a musical right. Lock empire records exactly despite it. Having rock band is a musical is a musical so you can something like rocket man. So yeah i'm actually i'm very. I love that. Leo ryan here beyond because i'm just so curious so curious for for your louis because should be a very fun diverse episode and until then moves kit a a.

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Snyder Wanted Batman Dead, New Trailer For Bumblebee Movie, & Dark Phoenix Delayed Again, Already? | OGLFG Podcast

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Snyder Wanted Batman Dead, New Trailer For Bumblebee Movie, & Dark Phoenix Delayed Again, Already? | OGLFG Podcast

"What's up guys on this show Snyder wanted Batman dead, a new Bumblebee trailer and dark. Phoenix delayed again already. Was dumb shit of the week. All that more on this episode of one giant leap for geeks. One all for. On the gigs. Welcome to another episode of geology where we talk about movies, video games, and all things in key culture. I'm your host, Mike, c squared, and with me or my co-host Ben wa. I'm still trying to get paid and DJ mellie mell. Okay. Okay. So before we used starting, I have a special announcement to make it is finally October. And so now we are in officially in the all the horror event. Now, if you haven't heard me talk about this before the all the horror event is going to be a collaboration of dozens of podcast to produce Halloween themed content for the entire month of October. So that means thirty one days of special episodes, dedicated to movies, games, books, and more in the horizontal. We have a few collaborations that we are going to be doing ourselves. Our first is going to be with the work life imbalanced podcast. Now, by the time you hear this, the episodes should already be up for them. They're going to be hosting it, and we were going to be just guesting on it me and been wa. We are discussing John carpenter's at the thing for that particular one. And then after that, we will have a bonus episode for us that we are hosting with movie geek and proud, and we will be discussing Friday the thirteen. Th- part ten or better known as Jason x.. That episode is airing on October fifth. So the day after you hear this, you get another bonus episode from us. Then on October nineteenth, we will be a guest on movie can proud podcast doing Friday, thirteenth part seven. And finally, we will air a bonus episode with two girls on a bench, and we're reviewing evil dead to that. But so ears, October twenty six. 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It's something different that we haven't done before, and so I'm really looking forward to, you know how this turns out and I want to get feedback from you guys, like if you like stuff like this, like we will try to do more collaborations as time goes on. Like we're always look, I talk enough to where I'm always willing to go on someone else's podcast. Don't all of us talk enough that this shouldn't be an issue. I don't know. Ben wa is kinda laid back out of the three of us. It sounded like at first when we were talking about this fine, the scenes like, okay, just a few more things we can put up, but what do you want explained it there? I got like holy shit. Yeah, as a lot. Oh, yeah, it's big. It's almost I think it's like twenty podcasts commit. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Now our stuff for the most part, it's pretty much done it out the way ahead of the game. Yeah, we still got one more to finish up by. We are pretty set to go. Like our episode with two girls on the bench down one is going to be coming out soon. So it's going to be. It's going to be fun. I'm excited for that. That's a pretty big bench then. Right, right. All right. So this week, the very first thing I wanted to get into were the trailers that came out this week and God damn it never fucking fails. The the moment I get the show notes together in, I'm all set to go for episode. We record on Tuesday night and then a bunch of other ship pops up. So we're not gonna talk about the trailer for Sherlock Holmes. We're not going to talk about the trailer for shit. There was something else that came out this week and I was like fucking hell. Like really like gimme some time, but the ones that we are going to hit on no tie. I went to the movies the other night, and I'm like, ooh, that looks like a good movie. Ooh, that looks like a good movie that looks all these damn trailers. Oh, yeah. I like Mike's going to have to chop the show like in half pretty much is going to be the trailer episode, but no, the first one we're going to get into is going to be for probably one of my most anticipated movies this year. Not an wars come out like that was my most anticipated. Now, my second most is creepy to, yes, yes as yes. They already had a trailer come out for them. We talked about that one a few weeks back, but this is the second trailer for this and. I just want to know because I'm almost super big rocky fan, but from you guys like Ben walk, why don't you go ahead and tell me just what were your thoughts on the crea- trailer? I actually have not seen the first creed film. However, I did see the actual. I six in the rocky franchise. Okay. But it seems to me like granted every movie is a sequel of his predecessor. Sure. When I picked up on the trailer, it seems as if this is almost a direct sequel from rocky four CNN as creed is going to be taken on Ivan Drago the sun here. Of the man who killed his father in rocky for and that alone has me just hoping hoping that some point we get to hear living on knew you were going to say. Here we're going gonna say. Erika. Yeah, instantly made me think of James Brown. Got gotta give Stallone credit where credit is due. This franchise is one of the longest. If not the longest running franchises of movies in cinematic history. The states back forty two years ago. Rocky came out in nineteen seventy six. And he's still reprising his role to help bring a new generation of actors, Michael Jordan into the limelight mind you. A lot of you probably saw him and he got his real big. Like I mean, creed was good from what I heard myself. But when you think of Michael Jordan, you think of Black Panther. So this guy is just hitting boxoffice box office, boom, boom. And it God's me wanting to watch the first creed because there's a good chance. I'm going to go to the theater and see this. Oh yeah. I s in pay to see movies all at all. I want to see this. I'm here. I'll I'll I'll I'll get to it. We should figure out a day where the three of us can go together. You're know, because I'm definitely going to want to go see this daters for sure seeing this data, but I saw creed the first creed in theaters. I didn't see it in theaters. I saw at once it was on Netflix or he might have got it on DVD, but I didn't see the first one I went and saw that opening night because I was kind of apprehensive about it because I mean, to be honest, after a rocky Balboa that one kind to redeem the rocky franchise for me rocky, he kinda rocky Balboa was the worst one. No, no, I actually know actually, really, rocky five was the worst. Oh shit. Here you go. Like rocky fi, the Woolmer he has this streetfight epi bulls. Yeah. Initially, I came back. Oh, you know what? I'm what we put it like this. I wish rocky would have died at the end of like it was planned to be a originally die. But you know, the reason I don't like rocky five is because it it doesn't feel like a rocky movie. It just feels like a movie with rocky in it because up until that point, you know it was. It was his story, and then they kinda just shifted gears by the v movie and this like no, this movie's about Tommy and I don't know, like the guy who played Tommy in the movie. He wasn't. I didn't think he was a very good actor was. Yeah, actual boxer in real life. No, he wasn't actual boxes. Just wanna be? No, he was real. Wasn't the okay? Yeah, because I'm like he was not a good actor and I'm like, I feel like you're an athlete that they just kinda stuck in this part and it was like, yeah, you know, well, we'll, we'll teach them how to act. But as far as this trailer goes, what did you feel about a mill? I am super excited. I like I like that. It's not play a sequel to rocky for, but more of around to the the fight that we never got to see Shoka well, because because Apollo die Apollo dies. So you never get to see what become of him after the Russian fight or withdraw go. And so now that his son is here, he's like, I'm here and I'm back to avenge my dad and that you know, that's sweet. And even though that's not quite how it's going to play out in the movie, just based off what I've seen in the trailer. And I think his mom even says, don't pretend like this is about your dad. Oh yeah. Yeah, I will. Claire huxtable has put her foot down after Bill Cosby, right. I just think that it's going to be it's going to be exciting to see. And it's cool to see the the Drago character comeback. The original Drago see a clip of him. He looks rough as hell. He looked like he'd been through some flush. I mean, it's cool that they've got him coming back in that he's somewhat more or less in the corner of his son from what you could tell he's trainer and assume he's not the only one coming back Brigitte Nielsen's actually going to reprise her role as well as Ivan Drago's father, father. I'm still I'm still kind of cat tomorrow shit as. You have a penis as Ivan, dragged hose mother. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. Victor, Victor dragons. I'm so confused now. Yeah, no goes wife. Yeah. Yeah, yes, that's. That's exciting too. I hadn't. I didn't even catch her in a tree. I didn't see her either most or she saw she was not in the trailer. No, but she was in the couch. Okay. Okay. It's going to be a nice dynamic to just because mind you. This is going to be a revenge plot somewhat or or him getting revenge for his father's death. But you also gotta take in the fact that is it really going to be as big given how rocky four was really about the tension between the USSR the US and the eighties and the Cold War. Like is there going to be any kind of cultural country? And he kind of speculation, any kind of hints and he kind of sprinkles of that or will appear Lee be like sun versus son because the traveler does not exactly flesh out how this fight comes to be sure which to be honest, we probably don't want it to because that would be a bit of a spoiled. Yeah, but I wonder whether they're going to take it when the film actually gets released. I okay, honestly, if okay, okay. So when when when I first heard that they were making this and it was going to be, you know, a donnas versus, you know, Ivan Drago son. I was like, oh my God, like this is almost chew on the nose just because of the. We're almost at like Cold War level tensions with Russia right now. So I was really surprised that every day we're doing this, I was like, oh, man. This is kind of like real like topical right now. So I like that angle. I can't imagine that they're not going to play into got a mention it. I mean, once now, look if they have a scene at the end when flights over and fucking Michael Jordan starts like talking to the crowd, he's like vodka changed. You say, we all I'm a walkout to fucking theory. Now that is according to part of that movie, I love that movie to death, but that ending part. I was like, okay, you don't need to try and have independence day speech at the end of this because they basically trying to make it seem like rocky ended the Cold War. I'm sad. My favorite part. No, that is pro USA. Yeah, that was like two levels I don't shares was fair. That's fair. But the my my thing is, you know, I. I like the fact that that they address in the movie because in the first creed, you know, Don is he, he doesn't want. It's not about like, because it's kind of like him trying to get out of his father's shadow. Like he wants to be a fighter, but he doesn't want to just be forever known as Apollo sons. Hello, creed, son, he wants to be his own thing and he's trying to become his own man and learn who he is and he wants to be. And in this, you know, she kind of confronts him about and she's like, don't pretend it. This is about your father, like this is about you trying to undo that part of his legacy or make your own name for yourself and be like, hey, I beat the Drago, you know, and win. Whereas my father couldn't like it's kind of for more selfish reasons than it is like revenge per se. I mean, there's an element of that, but it kind of feels like, you know, like this is my chance to finally completely step out of his shadow and be like, now I. M my own person. It's kind of like the whole, like we talked about last week with Space Jam. It's kind of like the Jordan in LeBron thing where it's like, you know, he has to win more championships than Jordan does to ever not stop being compared to him. So it's like, you know, if Donna's can be Drago son, then maybe he'll stop getting those comparisons. He'll be his own fighter. I want rocky dead. I want him dead but into this because the way they played it in creed day Kip, I think he had cancer or some shit, and it seemed like he was going to die in that. And then by the end it was like, psych this kid. And I'm still here in this one. He don't look to rough or anything. It's like he got a Di. I'm sorry, he has to die by this when they got a Harrison Ford, the force awakens his ass and kill home off. Like he's gotta go like if if they're gonna make the creed movies, it's kind of meta because in the story he's trying to step out of the shadow of his father in real life. These movies have to step out of the shadow of rocky. Like if they're gonna keep making these, they have to become their own thing. That's kind of what he named it. Creed tried that serve Balboa in it failed. Won't who know wasn't going to be rocky. Like what are you who's going to take them? They tried to take just in rocky right then and there. Right. It went in. That's kind of weird. This franchise came from where it's not. It's not a continuation of rocky. It's not his story anymore, but if you're gonna keep inserting him into the movies, you're never going to not make that comparison to the rocky movies because he still there. You know, that's one like you got to get rid of, hey, he's had his time is time for him to go even fight. Nobody in this shit him and Ivan Drago old essay, they gonna chase. Each other on me goes. Can you imagine Stallone on an Amiga actually, unfortunately, I. Well, I actually agree with you on this Mike. I don't know. I don't necessarily know if in this film he should pass, but there's gonna be some point where I mean him just as a character is going to get old unnecessary, especially they're really wanna take creed off on his own, and I'm, I'm starting to wonder just based on the trailer if there's going to be some parallels to how rocky was with his son in rocky five, if you remember that Hugh was so obsessed with training Tommy gun that he kinda glimpses own kid. Yup. And they're in the Trevor alone, kind of has his mother saying, don't pretend this is about your father, like, what are you going to do? You have a family now and like I like how it makes it seem like rocky Balboa in the film is still relevant more than just a trainer, but actually a mentor as in like, I've went down this road like he's don't make yourself. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, mic not not to the. Extent as as Mckee was as pertains to like family. Sure, sure. Okay, that's that's fair. But but in the same role, as you have a baby now you have a, I don't know if it's a friend or wife because I haven't seen the first phone thing to remain calm. They weren't married in the first one, but I they might be in the second one his they didn't have a baby in the first one, either she gets pregnant in the second one. I saw that part in the trailer. Well, whatever the case may be. Now he has a kid and it's like, do you really want to take an unnecessary risk. Because I mean if it's rocky, was the heavyweight champ. And so even though drag was much bigger than him, they were both. Thankfully heavyweights I'm not sure like was without spoiling two months for me. Did creed become the heavyweight champion? Is he like a light heavyweight, a bantam accrues? Like what? What we think is heavyweight? Yeah, I wanna say maybe light heavyweight, but I'm not exactly something you just by looking at Michael b, Jordan just normally he doesn't look like he'd be a heavyweight. No, no, he's I mean he, he got pretty swollen for this when he looks bigger in this first creed. I think that was the point though, but that was kind of my thing watching his trailer, the whole time. The most unbelievable thing to me about this whole movie is going to be like there's no fucking way. Hell they are in the same way class like that dude is huge. Like the do display and Drago son. He is like a good foot taller than Mike like another good eighty pounds of muscle heavier. I'm like, there is no fucking way y'all are in the same week class, like. This is one of them like celebrity fights type things where it's like, this isn't going to really for any Rodney thing. Hol kogo. Yeah. Well, where's this? Like, hey, this is going to be a fight for money and not like any kind of actual belt because I'm like, there is no fucking way. There is no university or in the same way class. Then he was like, super heavyweight. If anything, I'm like that dude is fucking big. Well, that doesn't actually, I mean in boxing, once you're over two hundred or heavy, that's what I'm wondering is Michael Jordan really? Can he pull off like looking like he's two hundred pounds because I don't know. Like in the in the poster that they had the most recent poster, they put out where he's like on his knees and he's like screaming into the air and shit. He looked big. Yeah, he did. And then the first poster day put out four. I'm like he, he's pretty fucking swollen. By the end of creed, he got pretty big lake. Once he started taking it seriously and once rocky started training him, he he built up even from the beginning of the movie to the end of the movie. So I mean, it's plausible that they're both in the same weight class opposite. At this point they really is just mean than picking. But I'm curious because after watching him in Black Panthers, like. Looks like he might be pushing two hundred, but I don't know. He was pretty being in Black Panther. Yeah. 'cause I mean, I'm I'm six one and I'm out of shape and I'm just barely to like, right, right. No, I'm I'm curious though, like. It looks like I hope that we at least have. They're going to have some kind of training montage. 'cause all these movies fucking do, and there is a part where they show. I'm just curious, like is he gonna have steroids and shit like his dad did back in rocky five or four? I'm like, you don't remember. Drag Oni was shooting them up. I know what you're talking about. So so I'm curious because they're gonna put him most ears because there's a part where he's doing like these pushups and he has like the ropes and pushes up and like swings the ropes before you'll like that is impressive. Like to get that high off the ground to feet up off the ground. Yeah, I'm like, Dave. He's juiston like. They like they're giving him some who thousand eighteen juice. Oh, man. But if they do do to corneas you know, go America propaganda and it's going to be cool to have like Vladimir Putin. If they're on a stage. Oh, it's going to be. We get some more diem ex Xs literally. Oh, okay. I heard who we being. I was like, all listen to own a way to work today to like what else did it. That's my heart, the pain, the dirt, the rain, all that. And I'm like, I haven't heard this song in a minute and I miss it. I miss you. The IMAX. Please come back. We've we've say cleaned, right, please. Right. And pay off. You'll goddamn IRS bills and baby mamas and shit because you fucking up. All right. But no, I think we're all on the same page as we're all excited to see this and I'm really looking forward to what they end up doing with the second one because I really enjoyed the first creed. So I'm looking forward to what they do then needs to go watch the first creed. Yeah, go check it out. You'll enjoy it. It's a really good movie. It's really reminiscent of the first rocky or is not all flashy and shit like that. And it's just kind of like a more of a character study, and the fights are kind of just a backdrop for telling the story of these people, but it is good in a fights are really well choreographed. And if the hits are like like they feel real. So yeah, it's a good movie. It takes a lot to get to watch any film like I am not a movie guy. Sure. So as he says on the movie and pop culture, pug. He's supposed to keep that under the hat. You're in training. So the next one we got is the trailer for Bumblebee. The first one I was like, okay, I kind of like what they're doing with this, but now I'm totally sold like I'm with now. The fact that they may disappear piece was a just genius idea because of the transformers feel. Just the whole concept of them feel eighties, and so it only makes sense to set the movie and the I know it's like it don't work in today for whatever reason for me. And plus they, they went back to kind of like the generation one version of the characters. So like the way that they're designed look like the old TV show? Yes. What Michael bay did with the transformers movie. He's like, say what you will. Some people like some people don't don't like camp, but I'm on the other side of that. They the first one is good everyone after they just progressively got worse and worse and worse. And by the time they went to China on it should. I was like, okay, I like this. I three, but the one, the fourth one with the dinosaurs, the age of you finally got and went to Egypt and shit. And that's when I was like, man, y'all are just blowing shit up just for the sake of shit up now, like this is stupid, and he brings Optimus prime back to life and all that shit with the the matrix of. Whatever. Fuck it was called and he stabs him cheswick anyway. I am very pleased with what I'm saying because I'm getting a lot in Stahl Jif designs and the time period now only that, but it feels kind of like I'm getting a lot of iron. Giant vibes. Yes, yes. The way they're telling the story, Michael bay is a Michael Baynes axe night or are very similar to me near good visual directors, but they suck at telling stories the stories are always kind of like an afterthought. And it was like the set pieces and action is what they're really conservative. And in this it feels like there's going to actually be a heartfelt, you know. Kind of like a boy and his dog type story. And this is a girl in her car robot card, machine alien thing, you know? And I just I like that. I like the feels then then they're giving me in a trailer. I was like, yeah, I wanna see the relationship between Bumblebee and this girl. Right? Because that seems like that's going to be the crux of the movie and everything else is kind of like just backdrop shit, but the real meat of the story is their relationship and them kind of forming a bond which each other and show. I like that and employs we got John CENA. I was waiting for, oh, with John CENA was Johnson. He's he's the, he's the big square jawed military dude. That's like, I didn't see no big square John military watch the right trailer. Yeah. Yeah, he's definitely he's in both trailers. So I couldn't see them all, you know. I just got that. No, no. No, no, Mike seriously about to go? No, no, no, no. Mike gonna teach me some basic thug and now my God. No, he, okay. I have a theory about Mr. sina and what they're doing with this. I think they're low key trying to do a transformer slash GI, Joe reboot, okay. I I have a theory. I've seen this phone around online too, but I haven't theory that they are secretly reintroducing GI Joe into this universe, and we're going to get some kind of GI Joe transformers, crossover because tell me what's more eighties than GI Joe and transformer. Exactly. It's like, tell me because he has like special unit, you know of branch in the military you should. I'm telling you and he does look like GI, Joe, thank you. Like if if any point they say go Joe or anything like that. We see snake is if any do jumps out in ninja costume with a sword and shit there goes, I call it. So we need. SARS at slaughter back then of that. I know that's what I'm saying. I'm like, I really feel like this would be in, especially because it's a period piece or if you can get away with all these flamboyant ridiculous characters who would never fuck and be in a fucking military, let alone some kind of paramilitary secret unit shit leg. No, it's it's. And near the end of one of the trailers I was appalled. She inserted a cassette with Rick Ashley, and he spit that with the quickness. Oh, no, it's hilarious. Oh, yeah. Now I think it was the first I never even. He never even got the chance to say he want to give him up, spit it out. I'm never going to. He's like, no. Overall, I don't have much more to say about this besides I'm excited like I think there finally got me back on board with transformers, like I want to see what they do with this. Like I Lord knows what's going to actually come out of the. I mean, it could be shit, but I have hope again. I haven't seen the transformers trailer in a long time to maybe go like, I want to go see that. But this one finally was like, yeah, I'm down. I'm down. You mentioned that this was a period needs to because it's going to be taking place in the eighties. I think I haven't seen all of them, but I think this is what the sixth transformer, I think so something like that. Well, is this then technically a prequel to the originals or like a spin off prequel slaves. This can to the previous film prequel slot because the way it's because it does take place before the first transformers movie. Yeah, boy, I think they're going to wreck con the rest of it going forward because of optimism come to earth and all that. That doesn't happen until the first movie. So I think they're going to consummate is shit, which I'm totally fine with it. They completely do away with the continuity from the Shiloh buff Michael bay movies. I don't think anybody's going to be like, oh, I can't believe you did not. All right, if they lose the Mark Wahlberg side of that. Oh, yeah, no, he's done. No, they just substitute him also for some other big ass. We're to just put Johnson instead. I might. They always guys somebody, man, you know, I just feel bad for tirees. They just got rid of his. Knitting killers gear. He's the last of fast and furious franchise take care of shit. I was gonna say to wait, has going. He might not even had s you know more if he ain't got enough money from the eight that they've already made. He don't the. I take that back. He was only in seven of a six of them, whoa, he's got like some kind of custody battle going on what his daughter. I think that might be over now, but he he's been kinda hurting for money or at least he acts like, okay, so then he'd better Alabama. Right? I know right? He you better make another album. The Soames. More tirees baby making music. Yeah. But I mean, I think Theresa himself, it's just a baby maker. This is look at him. Yeah, pretty much I wanna say to me is a beautiful ball headman contests. Contested. That demand is sexy. I'll give you that. I mean, he's no Rick Azure. Nice nice now, but. We've been positive and all that jazz for these who trailers. But this this next one, I'm I'm going to go to a dark place, get you see what I did there. It's a pun on Phoenix. Good job then see. Segue. Well, no, I'm telepathic so I can re. Oh, good, good. Good reference. So. Okay, we have new trailer for x. men the last stand. I mean, I'm sorry, dark Phoenix on my apologies. So. Okay. If you can't tell, I'm not filling this one. I'm not. I literally watching this the whole time. I just kept saying the remake an x. men less. They're remaking dare. Yes. I mean, all the way down to the flashback of gene when she was a little girl power is not being able to control it. Professor x blocking out our memory doing her powers. I'm like, that is literally the same story not to mention the storms haircut it was exactly the same. I didn't. I didn't catch me right. I didn't. I didn't pay the mohawk though. No, no shortcut Cowley vary head last day in damn. It's like, stop. Ladies to gray and black, like Halle, Berry's was stopped trying to merge continuity together with your originally x. movies. I thought the whole point of making x. men days of future past was so they could change the continuity. They didn't have to keep trying to attach it to the original movies, but the one big thing about this one is this is going to be the first x. men movie with no Hugh Jackman. There will be no Overeen in this movie whatsoever, and every single x. men movie even win. Okay. Did x. men first class. He still had a cameo in that every x. men movie has always had Hugh Jackman and in this will be the first without him. I know Hugh Jackman said he did not want to play wolverine any longer after Logan, but. I'm sorry whether it's the, the marvels of the Matic universe comics would ever whatever can in of x. men you have. When you talk about Phoenix in the Phoenix Santa, you have to put in Logan just because Jean grey in wolverine had that side thing going out, he has to at least make a thank thank you. That was my whole thing. I was like, so wait a minute you're telling probably the if not the most popular, one of the most popular x men stories to have ever been told and wolverines not any good fucking job. Of. I'm actually really surprised that this is even still coming out which we're gonna talk about after we talk about the trailer because I figured for sure that when Disney bought FOX, it was like, Nope, we are putting the kabosh on his bullshit. They said, y'all fucked up x-men enough. We are taking this shit and we are bringing it home like, fuck, like we brought Spiderman into the fold. We bring accident and fantastic four into the fold y'all done, but they still put a trailer out of fucking nowhere came out like midnight on a Tuesday or some shit knows just like really like, what is this. So. From what I understand of this movie, there will be the space element because that is the whole thing with the Phoenix saga stories that gene gets basically possessed with the Phoenix force. And that's what gives her all these crazy firepower and audit shit in kind of enhances her telepathy telekinesis and all that. They're, there's going to be element of that, I guess, but they're still trying to do the whole. She was too powerful and crazy, and we had to suppress her secretly. You know, blocker memories and on this and it's like y'all told us story and nobody liked it the first time we'll makes you go all. I'm going to get another shot to tell it the right way. It's like no, just don't look. This is what my problem is with other studios marvel does change how the stories are from the comics to screen like you have to adapt it. You can't just do a beat for be same story, but they adapt it just enough to where they keep the core elements of that story, but they make it work for the universe that they have established currently FOX. In one brothers, they just say, okay, what's a popular comic? All right. Just take the shit. We like out of that, and then we'll just make up a whole thing around. The Phoenix story is so good because gene grain, she was like the poster child of. Because when when when they created these characters, you know it was like the fifties and sixties. Sure. And women were looked at as you know, very timid and quiet, and you know, to kind of stay in your place iron clothes and cook the dinner and on it. And that was for the most part, Jean's character like that was cyclops woman. You know, it was like there was always kind of a thing between her and Logan, but it never really develop in anything in Kokin sexual tension, right? But she never really reciprocated anything him. But then when she gets the Phoenix didn't, she just comes out of her shell and she's just this bombastic just, you know, like sexual zone legs and shit pretty much. You know, it's like she, she starts fucking with Logan and she, you know, she goes bad. She's with evil mutants and this shit, and it's like, that's what it story was. So compelling was because you got to turn her from this kind of goody good, good girl to like the bad girl, you know. But I don't think that they've established her enough in this. New universe for that to even mean anything. She we barely know anything about this gene. She's been to movies or one. I don't think she's been in any. No, she was in days of future past or. No, I'm sorry. She was everybody keeps forgetting apocalypse. She was an x men. Apocalypse is in apocalypse, and I think she wasn't as a future piles not wasn't cyclops and days the future psi cops was. So then gene was too. She wasn't really, really, oh shit. I need to go back and lost as future. Anyway. When I think of Jean grey, I just think of the original expert. Right is not these first class prequels where she was played by fam- Kazan Jayme I can't pronounce, which which fan it sounds like it's two three name k. Right. But yeah, I agree with you, even though I really haven't seen many of the pretty goals. Why would they want to do this now? Why would they want to establish your character with the fourth film in this franchise and in doing so? Are they going to end up like rent counting. I feel like adding her giving her special importance because let's be honest. She was the original female in the x. men. If you wanna go back to like sixty three, our shared a first came out, but has she ever really had a prominent role in any of these three films fired to this? Like I said, she she's barely in apocalypse and you know it's in now. They're like, oh, she's important. It's like, you can't. That's the whole thing about like might throws off the time line to like apparently professor x is supposed to have met her when she was a child, and he was a young man in a wheelchair. But if you watch the days of future passed in, you watch the apocalypse, Charles didn't have any connection with her when she was a child. He didn't find her when he had all the other ones. And what happened offscreen? You don't know that was a deleted scene. Well, that's a big chunk. That you shouldn't leave off screen? Yeah. Yeah. It's like if you're going to try and and establish that the near should have been at least a name drop or mission of her, like a young girl and this that and the other who needed help or something. Yeah, a line just to be like, okay, we've established that. He's met Jean, right? And they don't. No, not at all? No. Well, why wouldn't she even met in first class then? I mean realistically, when you go back into comics, she was in the fright comics. She was the first the only female or the hell was she this whole time beats hell out me. The only female in first class was a mystique? Yup. Good old, Jennifer, Lawrence now, look, Jennifer. Lawrence is a good actress. I do like her. She's in. She is in a bunch of good movies like American hustle. And what was that movie where she makes like the mop shit or whatever. Amber, amber. I like dances. They got the notebook and dances. No, I liked her in all of the hunger games. She's a good actress. Don't get me wrong, but she does not want to be in these movies no more. And she just progressively is trying less in less as he's movies on outsource. She's just totally phone initiative. I mean to the point where she doesn't like heaven be putting all the body paint the makeup and shit, which I get it. I mean, it's like five or six hours here every single day. You know to maybe go film, you know. You know, two minutes worth of footage. All right. That's a wrap. So you tomorrow Jennifer fucking now. So I get, you know how that can become tiresome. Yeah, but it's like, hey, you signed up to beat his fucking kid. In hiding. Right? And it's just like, okay, my biggest problem with her is in the first reboot, the x. men first class. One of the lines she says, is mutant and proud. Yeah, because it was kind of this whole thing of, you know, she out of all the x. men was the most headed the worst because yes, you could shape shifts in the ship. Her natural form is blue, right? And she had to learn how to accept who she was and not trying to transform and look like somebody else and trying to hide. But in every movie since then she just keeps being more Jennifer, Lawrence in less mystique. And I'm like, what the fuck is happening. I'm like, especially by this movie, they show her, I think once in the trailer where she's blue, maybe twice, but for other times you see her. She's Jennifer Lawrence, she's in the x mansion talking to professor x when she's like, oh, there's another word for that Charles or some shit, and she's just Jennifer Lawrence form, and I'm gonna you're in the institution. Surrounded by nothing, but other mutants. Why are you hiding who you are right now when you're out in public, I get it. But here it's like I. I, you know, Rebecca romaine had issues being blue two and debit stuck it out and re-shoots and she was Rebecca in like three scenes out of three different movies. She stuck with it. She stuck with it and I'm just like, hey, man, look, that's always my thing. It's like these people, they get into these roles and inner light on his tired of this. And it's like, did you not read the byline contract said that we got you for three five movies for next ten year shit. They sign off on it and they're like how much you're paying me. All right, look it. But I mean, I. Like I said, this trailer came out of nowhere. I didn't think that they were even gonna keep going forward with this movie, not moral or Disney bought out mocks. So I'm really surprised at this is even happening at all, which this is the part that I wanted to get to. So they just release his trailer. I mean, just released his trailer and literally noble shit. They have already delayed the movie. They pushed it back. They've already been pushing the date back up until this point and now they've pushed it back again. Okay. So I'm getting this from screen, ran dot com. This is as of today FOX's officially moved alita from December twenty first twenty eighteen to dark Phoenix most recent launch day of February fourteenth twenty nineteen dark Phoenix will instead opening theaters four months later on June seventh. Well hail, no, which they are never making his game, but movies, buddy Channing. Tatum fans thought he was gonna play that should not happen and put us to bed. But the game that movie has now been delayed until March. Thirteenth of twenty twenty. However, perhaps the most surprising FOX related news of the day is that elite is old spot has been filled by a PG thirteen. Theatrical cov- deadpool two. I'm like, they look. So hard today, like we releasing again as PG thirteen PG. For the kids. Okay. I don't wanna go to a movie where every other scene is cut, nor do I wanna go to a movie where it's, you, mother bleep bleep. It really changes the line or some shit, or maybe maybe they can draw attention to them. Maybe they filmed some other scenes like, oh, well, you notice for the kids and so it'd be like, you know, insert family friendly joke. Here's like he, he, he breaks fourth wall the time. It would only make sense if they're going to do this for him to break the fourth wall and making obvious that, yes, we had to change the movie to do. So I'm looking at me like, I'm sorry, Bill is looking like a fucking hate you for trying to justify sorry, but as somebody who does not have children yet. Sure. I know dam. Sure. As a parent, if I went and saw dead pool, I would certainly let my kids go watch dead pool just because it's dead pool. I mean. I don't know as somebody who has kids. What? What is your your? I would not let my son Sita shit. No. But I mean, you know, that's just me. I mean, hey, everybody raises their children differently. I mean, I just there's too much shit and especially in deadpool two. I mean, they they pretty much show his dick and that movie, and I'm just like, oh, that was a bit too much for me to be like, yeah, no, this is Kimberly. That's fine. I say it was kid friendly. I just said, I'd let my kids. She's like fucking superheroes, kind of always have a penis. Girls have. Yeah, but but the article goes on to say that dark Phoenix is released. Date delay comes as something of a shock, seeing as how the first dark Phoenix trailer was only just released this week, the film which was directed by longtime x men writer, Simon Kimber had previously been pushed back from his original November twenty eighteen release date in order to allow time for its reach us to be completed this past summer as it stains dark Phoenix will now open against illuminations animated sequel the secret life of pets too at the box office. Now, some people have been trying to make the argument of, oh, see, they have faith that the movie's to do good. You're putting it out in June now instead of February because now is usually the month where they kind of just don't bullshit movies where they're just like, no one's going to the right now anyway. So we'll just put whatever the fuck out there and it's just whatever. But deadpool has kind of changed that because the first deadpool came out in February, I believe, and that movie made fucking ton of money. So. So you can release a good movie at any point. It doesn't necessarily have to be, you know any summer release date or anything like that. That's not a big deal, but I just feel like they just keep pushing his back and they're just gonna push back to Infinity. Like the next time we hear about Dr Phoenix they're gonna light. Yeah, it's releasing in August of twenty twenty seven. Like I'm just really surprised that Disney's evening allowed us to happen. I mean, maybe there's some kind of contractual thing where they're just like, hey, you have to put this movie out because it's been made. And we've paid these people instead of the other day have royalty rights that they gotta collect from, who knows? But I just don't see them letting this come out and fucking with the continuity any more than what they already have, especially if they're going to try and bring them into the, you can't keep doing these. You can't be a DC and just be like, oh, we got Jerry Lendl joker, and now we got caned Phoenix joker. It's like you can't start diluting the brain. It's like if we're going to bring them into the MC you, we gotta kill off audits. Other bullshit. Sorry. Thank you. Thank you. I can't keep up all this shit. It makes me not wanna bother. Yeah, it's like, you know, you can't. You can't just keep in specially to if you're not gonna do anything original with this shit and you're just gonna basically tell x.. Men. Three again, it's like, why are we even make an his bullshit just like, oh, no, it's different. They're going to go to space for what two seconds layer, right. I don't know. Like I I can't. I can't cosign x-men bullshit. No more. I'm sorry. I just can't. You know, I had a glimmer of hope of being excited for dark Phoenix, and then I saw this trailer and I'm like, the fuck is this shit. It was really underwhelming. Yeah, there was no big like ooh moment at the end or anybody sent me think it was my brother. My brother sent me the link to the video on YouTube. Sure. And I was like, all right, they finally put out a trailer. Let's check this out house all kinda geeked out because gene jeans, my favorite x men person. Sure. Well, I don't know. I like storm too. But anyway. I was all excited and then I clicked on the link and wash trailer and like. No, no. Halo. Yeah, I'm not too hard pressed about it either. I'm just like, yeah, no, yeah, we can. We can go ahead and just skip over this this. I probably won't see indeed IRS. I don't blame me. I'll I'll wait till net flicks you're, you shouldn't. It doesn't look very good at all. But anyway, I mean anybody else got final thoughts. We even get it, you know, November. All right. I saw article while back. Okay, the skin released in November. No, then it was in the trailer. All right, coming December. No, that's one thing. It's like there was no way how they were going to release his movie in November, and they just put the first trailer out at the end of September. Yeah, it's like we've seen literally nothing from this movie and in this like, oh, in a month and a half, it's going to be out. It's like bullshit. Usually big budget, like action movies. And should they UC too? I really like least four to six months before comes out and it's like, yeah, this is the first anything we've seen from this like that movie is not coming out and it's just not. But, yeah. Anything else before we jump off of this because I'm done, I'm not going to be thinking about this after this. I'm not about this now. Right? I have. I've got other things. I'm a brain though. One thing before we go. One thing is cool. I do like that. They're finally stop being afraid to dress the characters in their traditional costumes. Like they got the straight up with big, yellow Exxon. Ah, chess, I was like, thank you because that's what always pissed me off about x. men movies is that they were trying to be too much like the matrix shit because in the first x men wolverine makes a comment about. He's like, oh, you guys go outside and he's things and cyclops says to them, what would you rather prefer yellow spandex? And it's like, yes, bitch, I would. A little bit of blue on the show. That's yes, that's the x. men in uniform. It's like, that's the thing. It's like these studios wanna make superhero movies, but they're simultaneously ashamed to make a superhero movie. And that's what bothers we're going to rip off this source material, but then we're gonna shit on it a mainstream audience. Okay. All right. I'm moving on. It's time again for America's number one show dumb shit of the week. That's right. I'm sure the weekend show her guess use at your findings of jumped shit. Talk about what your submission on the show. Wind us on Twitter at giant leap before females Mitchell bale of g. h. dot com. Sure. Host DJ Meli. I think you'd be thinking, all right. So we have a special dump to the meat in lieu of color lean esque month that is come upon us, Halloween, esque. I some people, they celebrate Halloween all thirty one days. I guess that's the thing, not my thing, but all right, go for it. So the theme this week is dumb, Halloween, costume. This should be interesting. Our first submission has come to us by MacKenzie, Lambert in you can find her at him him, oh my goodness, MacKenzie forgotten a male name on. I was listening. Kenzi you can find at Cinna MAC on Twitter, and he says senior year of high school. I tried for zombie from Romeo's. Dawn of the dead. Unfortunately, make up was the two was to blue and people thought that I was a cannibalistic member of the blooming group. For the longest time I hated Halloween until I was able to afford my own costumes. That re because somebody thought you were something else you were upset, hey, you know what that that would have been a very unique costume like cannibalistic member of the blue man group on me, hey, that's pretty original to me. They say what you eat and I just the whole month. The whole month. I mean, I can. I can sympathize with MacKenzie though because I've had some really bad homemade costumes. There's kind of a running theme with these were a lot of these seem like they're homemade get ups and it's just like homemade costumes. Rarely turn out good. I've had some good homemade costumes to it just depends on the means that are available to you and the creativity that you're willing to put into this. Yeah. Yeah, I think I think if you can be creative enough and not try to be too ambitious, then you can make it work. Yeah, degree. I mean, okay. So for example, two years ago, I was Tony stark for Halloween. I remain, but Tony, Stony site when got a week, you know, got to go t- going put on a suit, put a little Iran, global, boom, Tony start. That was it was very easy. Didn't have to do too much to it. And you know, you gotta think outside of the box, but I, like you said, you have limited resources yet growing up as a broke. Kid in a small town. I had my fair share of what can I use to make myself into a Halloween costume? That's gonna be creative. I remember one year. I don't know why, but I got tired of doing, you know, the same old. Everybody does like the witch and the ghost in shirt. You know, you have the generic ten that everybody does. Sure. Well, I was probably thirteen or fourteen and I don't even think I was that old. I had to be younger than that. Tween ten and thirteen. And I said, okay, well, I wanna be Buffy the vampire slayer though. I went and I got myself a blonde wig and I went to the thrift store and I got a black knee-length trenchcoat and I made myself a couple of crosses out of some pencils, and I took one of my brothers Nerf guns, and I like spray painted it black and put a bow on top of it with some string in a hangar. So that was pretty nifty knows my mom made me up a little stick one of her bottles that she makes lotions and stuff in and she put holy water on it. Some water and there, and I had this. My grandpa had these fence post tops, and they look like steaks, but took a couple of them and I had it all lined up the my bell and everything. Yes, it it in theory was supposed to be a good costume. However, shoot you're selling me on like, okay, let's see the hair like the whig kept sticking to my face. Is it was hot and gross and in the trenchcoat was warm, which in October in Michigan shouldn't be a problem. However, it was the one year that we had like the seventy degree Halloween, and so I was sweating my being Buffy. Yeah, it was cool. It was cool idea. I had to explain to everybody what I was, but I mean it was still honestly when when when you're treating issue, you're walking for, like I mean, at least I know when I was a kid, blah, they would just drop us off at the corner and be like, we'll just follow you when the car and it's like you fucking serious. Gonna walk to door to door. We'd have walked ten blocks on internet shit. It's got enough candy yet, and it's like, yes, just let me back into fucking car. I want to go home. And of course you got a younger siblings, they're always like no enough yet, right? Like fuck you take half when we get home anyway. That's probably what it said. We ain't got enough. I know you go take on a good way. So I gotta make sure I get enough to have something worth making this trip. And then my mom always used to drop us off at the church parking lots that did the pumpkins in the parking lot thing where you'd like go around all the little church people, and they're sitting in the backseat of their car handing out candy because didn't matter where we went, somebody we knew had, oh, well, we're sitting up at the church, so make sure you bring the kids. We wanna see their costumes. We're not going to be home. So we had to go like six different church. Yeah, yeah. On top of the ten blocks that we had to walk. I think any successful Halloween trick or treating event as long as you go to the well off suburban neighbor moon, it's worth the trip because they, although hook you up with some good shoot me up. I was about to ask you when you were saying you were Buffy you pretty much verified for me. I'm going to ask you if you were Kristy Swanson. Geller, but I'm guessing. Yeah. I mean, I ain't gonna lie. Christy Swanson was hot issue as my young. Michelle mom, Buffy my nephew ridgeville Buffy than fucking stabs. Peewee. Herman. Yes. Pewee. I love that movie. Guy. That's hilarious. I'm pretty. They came out right before he was whacking theater, probably wrongly because at that point out the hia probably hit a career low at that point. He's just like, okay. No, my mom, my mom and my aunt man, they could throw together some Hella good outfits for Halloween. I was a, I got some fine memories of being a kid like one year. I was one year me and my cousin. We were dice nice, real real simplistic. Just took a big old box, some holes, you know legs, arms ahead and then his painted up the pips were even right. It was like one on the side, six on the opposite. Foreign three problem was we can barely fit through the fucking door. Brother had that problem thinking, two hundred you'll get in and out of the fucking car. My brother was a LEGO, and we took a big ass box spray painted it read, we put LEGO on the side of it, and then he got a little shoebox for his head. Okay. L. we put these cups on top so it looked like it had the little connecting pieces or and he was as big ass. Red LEGO. It was hilarious. Speaking of big, huge, crazy costumes. The second one that was sent to us work life in balance podcast, and you can find them at w. l. imbalance on Twitter when I was they say, when I was in sixth grade, I wore a white Power Ranger costume, enduring the Halloween assembly. I walked past group third graders, one of them yelled out, look, it's a fat Power Ranger. Getting roasted by God damn toddler who's a real shook. I was real shit. That's fucked up that was from Dallas from Derek from work life. I man enough. Oh, so bad for him because I was like, man. Oh, that's that's shitty. Unlike that was always like my. Apprehension to be anything I every year of my life to this day of always wanted to be Spiderman, but I'm too fat to get in some Spanish. Shit. Look if I ever was to try to. I'd be that that means or that gift of that fat dude in the spider are not. No, no, there's no way she'd off good. Hey, I appreciate the floor even close. If I saw me in that costume, I would make fun of me. So I totally understand where you're coming from Derek like I get it like, I totally understand why. You know. Any skin tight anything unless you're like in really good shape is not very flattering to anybody, especially when you're a guy because you know, you got to Joan and you've got to kind of try to hide it. Maybe you can wear like a Cup or like a g string type deal to try and keep everything together. So it's just a. 'cause I b as try to have the most rounded off, you know, like growing area that you can. You don't wanna be able to see like you go into the left and you balls go. Right? And she's like, you don't wanna see in especially as a child in a costume. Yeah, you know, we might want to make it to where he's a little bit looser in the, you know, crotch e areas. So I'm like, if you're a heavy said, dude, I, I could see how that's that's pretty shitty. Plus I never liked school assemblies for Halloween costumes because it's like unless the rest of the day off from school or maybe come to school in my damn costs. I was totally fine with that. But it's like if you're going to have me get up on stage and be judged by all the other kids and shit about who has the best costume. It's like I should at least get something for this besides, hey, you get to get out of third hour like, yeah, that's cool. I, I guess we didn't never have the assemblies. We had those crazy Halloween parties where you like had to wear a costume and your parents had to bring a tree. And I never wanted to wear my costumes to school because I still had to function and do my work, and most of my costumes were had bulky excess. Big ass dragon wings and. And there was a couple couple of times I dressed up one time. I was a cosmic fairy, and of course we were broke. We didn't have any money. So my mom made me in these big ass cardboard wings out of a giant like box like you get cups in from the the gas stations, those big huge boxes and I swear to God. The wingspan was about as big as your tables. Geez, how three and a half tall. They were huge and I didn't wanna wear them fuckers all day long. Keep knocking people. Oh mother. I, this just my wings. That one year I was I can't think of the name of the main characters name one year. I was the main gargoyles from the Gargo's cartoon Colli. Yes, yes. At the mask and the wings and shit and some asshole. Ass kid like I don't all jealous of my costume or he was just beat a dick in general. But like purposely ripped one of my wings. So like the rest of the day before I got to go trick or treating fucked up my costume. So for the rest of the day, I just took the wings off and just head just the bodysuit and shit in the mask. And I was just like it's stupid now. Now, look dome now it looks like Frankenstein with a mullet. You know, like I have no wings, so they're like, what exactly are you know. Well, speaking of wings, you go to the art, third submission, and this is from two girls on a bench, and you can find them at Twitter. The number two girls on a bench when Tricia was nine. She wanted to be a butterfly. Her mom made the costume and everyone thought that she was an alien. Oh, that's I almost asked them the send a picture. What the hell? How did they cost you turn out or they thought she was a million. I'm like, God did with wings man. Like I'd like mom, you are never make. Again, I don't know what the fuck happened when you were so in this together, but like kids school thought that I was a fucking alien. So I'd away with it. I've been like Yemen alien. Yeah. I'm just curious. Like what exactly. I don't know butterfly wings. Did she make maybe mainland. Maybe maybe she got confused and made her until like larva costume. Oh, yeah. That's why it turned out shitty was because you had no idea what exactly I was trying to go for. Right, right. That's why after a certain point, I didn't let my mom help with my costumes. She's I got this. I go away pretty much wanted to go about supplies about the time that I started doing my own school projects. Then that was about the time. Mom stop helping me with my costumes. She desk you need this or that. Nope, I got it. Has some pretty uncreative parents. My mom and my aunt, they, I'm flashing back now having good memories of my costumes. Are member. I was like I said, that was the die earlier, which was cool. Sure. I was like the mummy that was wrapping toilet paper, but it was there's a few other things inside of it to help it, keep it shape, which is real cool. But I think I think it was third grade. I used to collect action figures. Now's a kid, like, you know, like a lot of boys did mom in my aunt that made a custom built subzero costume. I was sub zero for Halloween. I'm pretty legit day. Oh, so that Magna lock, I gotta ask if my mom, one of them probably has a photo of it still might be like a twenty five year old picture, but I wanna see it. I'll show you guys if I can find it must exist. You will have to. We should do that. I know. I know you keep saying we dress up for Halloween episode on Instagram. We should put one of our costumes from one way or a kid in our costume from this year. I think I dress up this year. I gotta stem my Halloween game up because my second thing you'd have always wanted to be for Halloween inside Spiderman is a wanna be the Rocketeer for Halloween. Okay. And I'm like a sorta guy can find that jetpack in fucking helmet and leather jacket. I would wear that shit just daily. Like I would go by a motorcycle and then I'll have that be my motorcycle helmet and it'd be a whole fucking thing like Modig is getting so hard just talking about it right now, like the glows in the boots and shit. All fucking love the Rocketeer. So kids will never seen Rocketeer go see that movie will not go, but see the movie. It ain't theaters flakes. Right. I'm sure we'll have the the flip the script in. I mean, what were what were you guys worse? Costume. And I don't mean like worse as in what you warned some asshole ripped up, like what was of everything that you were? What was the worst thing in Europe. Like how it turned out or the choice. I got how it turned out. Okay. I was seven years old and I didn't want any help for mom. I could do it all on my own. So she said, all right, what are you going to do? I knew we weren't going trick or treating that year. We were just going to this stupid pumpkin in the parking lot thing. It was cold as it often is initiating for Halloween, and I remember I had a dance costume leftover from when I was in dance, two years prior though. It was a couple sizes too small. I wore the top of the dance costume. I had a pink mardi gras mask, no mind you the dance costume was blue. Pink, mardi gras mask boa feather, like feather boa necklace them diet, feather boas, bright, bright green. And then I threw on some sweatpants and my coat and Wilms like, what are you? I'm like, I don't know. Fabulous on the bottom of my closet. Said, no Honey, what you know, I got a couple of dollars. We'll just go get you costume. Nope. Nope. Nope. I'm the bottom of my closet and I stuck with it. I have a picture in swear to God. I look ridiculous. Like I know that that was one of them. Things. Mom threw her hands up, but she's just like, all right. That's what you wanna do. I'm trying to think for been. Why don't you do yours also trying to figure out one for me. Would have. I don't have one. Oh, well, I guess I guess no, no on no. With the it was bad in the sense that it wasn't really well thought out. Sure. It was the last year I ever like really winter treat. And when I was a teenager, this was at the height of like the end up, you owe split when there was two factions, it was black and white Hollywood of the wolf pack. Okay. And I had an end of you all Renan, black Wolfpack tanktop in a red flannel. So what I did was a warm blue jeans and I pulled him like I was sagging my blue jeans so you can see my boxer. I talked my tank top in my boxers and wore my flannel in walked around using a full Mexican accent in pretended to be Conan o.. People would open the door, but like on the name. I read are to that. Nobody understood it. Away with like Betty may not have been high when I do. Oh, man. I made much. Good. Orderly. I would probably say mine in this one's actually fairly recent like wasn't last like five, six years or so. I was really, really hard core into the assassin's creed for inch is, and I had the bright idea that I was going to be SEO for Halloween from assassin's creed to now at this point they didn't have like the costume that you could buy in the shop or whatever. I was like, I'm gonna make my own like costume with the hood and everything, and I'm gonna have like the hidden blade on it was going to be a whole. You weren't sure trading in Flint. No, no, no. I was grown this shit. I was in my twenties at this point. So this, this was like, yeah, I was too old to be probably doing this particular costume, but it my girlfriend at the time. She's like, oh, I can so, and I can do this any other. And I was like, okay, well, you know, I was like, can you help me do this? And I hate win. Someone's always like, yes, I will help you do this thing because they think that it'll be fun in sounds cool. But they. They never actually think through the work that's going to be involved behind him. So about a half an hour into her, help me make Takashi. She's I don't want to do. I can't make this work and I'm just like, what the fuck. So basically it was supposed to be this whole thing where she was to him the hood and make it to where we're going to be like legit hood and she just kind of gave up on it. So I just pretty much just had too late a fabric out and just cut a hole in the head in just put it, and it was so just rattling my like it was like threads hanging off the hood and like the fabric didn't quite fit right ahead. The bell in the sword and audit shit, but he just looked so thrown together. And at the time I was drinking too. So I thought it looked kind of cool when I was drunk. But after us sobered up and looked at the pictures of I was like, debt cost, you turned out fucking we went to the bar and everything, and it turned out so bad. Oh, no. And I was just like, well, maybe with the lighting and everybody in. Here's pretty neabry. Eight. I'll look cool, but know that it was. It was bad. Oh my God, I'm sure I've had worse ones, but in my adult life, that was probably the worst one I've had. That's when I kinda just gave up on making costumes, and I'm my, I am just spend the money in by some shit. My brother had one that we picked up at a yard sale. Hey, he was e t, oh God. They took a snowsuit like a little kid snowsuit. Sure. That was this ugly ship Brown co, all this, his body. And then they took. Hey, for creativity, ever like the the hood of a coat that you put on, they turned it backwards. And so is that weren't even even on the back of this hood thing, and then they like cut out little holes under the is so that you could see out of the back of this hood and then it snapped to the back of the the snowsuit and my brother standing in the driveway. And we bought it in like September beginning September because we found it at a yard sale. Sure. And so my grandma's like, look, I get your home, lean cuss tomb. She was all excited to. She makes my brother put this thing on in the middle of the driveway, your broad daylight cars driving up and down my brothers, putting this no suit on and Scott, like these fake wrinkles that are sewn into the. The costume. So it looks like an old sake. Then the mouth is all like sewn open. They could've made that costume so much easier if they would have just wrapped him in a blame and then just gave the head. Yeah. Like like when they try to sneak him off on the bike that could have made that so much simpler. My brother's like, stay, you know the kid from Christmas ralphie. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Chris story. Yeah, I wanted to say Christmas Carol, but no Christmas story where the kids got like eight coats and his arms or straight out. And this one, my brother looks like stand in the middle of driveways, e- like. The real question is, did he get any receives PC's and if so, how many you know, I honestly can't remember. We were pretty young that year a can of coke maybe right there you oughta go. I'm gonna say no, because that was. Probably mid nineties. Did they have like a string of like Christmas lights sewn through to jacket so they could make his. No, they just had a big red felt tip. Because they had these gloves attached snowsuit and they just took a big piece of red fell in like soda around the the finger and so is finger was just read right colour. Hello. His enough, fuck out of here, candy instead of walking door to door, and he just ride in the handlebars of a bike that would have been that would have been good at least then maybe somebody would kinda knew what he was trying to be because he just kinda waddled because I'm sure people were like, so you're at turtle. What are we going for. Right? I know, right? Yeah, just put a Christmas, he'd been head of his time. Yeah, it was. It was crazy and I was Princess peach that year. I, I don't know why. I remember the pairings that we had, but Princess peach and ET has one. The lovely Princess Pete's from Super Mario land. Good call back. So no one who hasn't heard LS get that joke call that you're getting the death is from my microphone. The death is through the microphone. That works that works remember dumped into the weekend your show. So please send us in your submission each week, filed them, read them for sending it to us. Kids ended to us on Twitter at giant leap, the number four or Email it to us that official OJ Alexi edgy mills. So for all you, Zack Snyder fans out there. All eight of you. We, we found out some interesting information about what he was trying to do with the DC before he was pretty much you know, kicked out of, you know. Being leave? Yeah. Being the guiding light of the DC cinematic universe or extended universe, whatever deflector calling it. Failed universe is probably a better term. So, okay. I'm also getting this from screen rant is well, it says Batman was going to die in Zack. Snyder's original five part plan for the extended universe. The DC EU is headed in a new direction and most of Niners plans for the characters after the events of Batman versus superman, dawn of Justice, including a significant portion of Justice league were abandoned after he was forced off the project and extensive reshoot were conducted by just Weeden. They go on to say that the revelation doesn't merely shed light on Snyder's original intent for the story, but also gives a fuller picture of what happened behind the scenes and the DC you during Justice league's production. This is the version of the story been Affleck would have signed on to portray meaning his solo Batman movie would have been created with this ending in mind for the Cape crusader looking at the time line of Ben Affleck's departure. It's very clear it lines up with time during Justice, leaks production. That Snyder was clashing with Warner Brothers prior to his exit. So it's more than likely athletes, lack of commitment to the director's chair was directly related to. The fact that his Batman scrip was significantly impacted by decisions such as removing dark side, and he specifically said he wouldn't direct if he didn't like the script. Now, basically what I guess Zack Snyder was trying to do was buy Justice league to. They were going to fight dark side and Batman was going to be killed, sacrificing himself, trying to stop dark side. That's kinda why I guess they win with his older more season grizzled, Batman, and he's kind of jaded and a little bit crazy now and. It doesn't work. It's like, I guess their thought is, hey, we've seen Batman on screen ever since you know eighty nine and even earlier than that with TV shows and stuff like that in the cartoons in the nineties and everything else like everybody knows, Batman, everybody knows this story. You know, this is an opportunity to tell a Batman story that we haven't seen before, at least unless you read the comics, right? You know the death of Batman by dark side that that is a big thing in the comics. You know, he, he does get killed by the dark sides of mega beams or whatever, but he doesn't really technically die. He kinda gets shot until like the past. And this is whole convoluted dummy because they're never gonna kill them, right. But anyway, I, this just goes to show like all these people like release the Snyder cut. You know, we wanna see his version of Justice league would just weans interference and all this shit. And it's like, man, this motherfucker. All he was going to do was continued down. The past of watchmen. I feel like, yeah, everything he's done since watchmen. He just keeps trying to make the superheroes in the DC universe more like the watchmen universe this dark depressing. Have these fuckers have like erectile dysfunction or alcohol IX rapist and all this craziness like you don't need to do that, not everything needs to be this dart greedy. You know, like, well, what superheroes were real and they were just crazy and they had problems and issues on it. It's like you. Yeah, I couldn't help. Good, no problem. Just unlike in Lord knows what Ben Affleck the Batman movie was going to be because they in the university had created. They had Robin was dead. Yeah, Batman was killing people. You know, superman was destructive in in, you know, wasn't very responsible and not the true Justice gonna American way. Superman that we've grown up with and then they kill him off to bring him back. And then they were going to kill off that man later. And it's like, why like? What are you like Ben Affleck is of really big Batman fan so much. So to the point where his house that he sold to Kevin Smith, he built a fucking bat cave into the house, like with the poll and shit to slide out the animal as Batman and the whole. If he had a batmobile wouldn't fucking surprise me like he loves Batman. The reason he played daredevil back in the day was because he was like, this is the closest ally probably ever get to playing Batman, right. And. Fast forward. Years later. Yeah, and it's like, hey, do you are Batman now? And it's like, that's what you wanted to do like this is what they sold you on when they were like, yeah, we want you to play Batman, and he's only if we get to kill him. No, no. Maybe he's really a joker fan. I hope not because job ring will be in his honestly, this point he ain't for the lane really had problems with alcoholism. You know, he kinda SARS Streit's. He kinda sorta does in this version of him, but traditionally saying that because been athlete, right, right, right. Alcoholism. Yeah, he's doing now try to make it gritty to keeping keeping his ex nighters round. Yeah. What I would have liked to see is if they were going to do that, then they should have gone with the if they were going to kill him off. They should've flashpoint shit as well. That rent that kinda helps it makes sense to me of why they would have did a flashpoint movie a half flash changed a pass, changes the time line, and then you know, all the characters that we've known. They've changed their origins are different. I mean, hell in point, Batman is dead right? He gets killed as a childlike instead of his payers getting shot and killed Bruce dies child. His dad becomes Batman and his mom becomes the joker. That's that. That was a cool different little take on its own. Like you know if they were going to kill me off, then I guess do that right? But if they're not doing that, then leave him live, right, right. If they're not gonna do that, then. Don't even tell the flash point movie because auditor doing x. men days of future past just kind of trying to con the whole. Everything that they've done up to this point is I'm so glad there's x. nighters directing these movies anymore. He doesn't have any shots to call in these movies anymore because the way the road they were going after initiatives like good God, like you ought to know what the fuck to do, what he's now, there's is trying to throw potus spaghetti to the wall. See what stuck exactly. I'm like marvel is over here Bilton foundations for movies for the next ten years going forward fucking empire at this point off of fucking see characters like y'all got Batman, and you'll cake still can't get this good. I mean, how many movies does Thor? Have three. Yeah. Yeah. Look, you know, you have fucked up when Thor has become more popular than Batman, like, how do we get to this place as become more popular than. To be fair to haul Kaz dope Hoke is always been doing. Is dope. We have Hawkeye in three x. men or. He wasn't an Infinity war. Actually, he knows. On the first one and fitting awards at are when he he's in civil War, I think is what your things in civil war end. He doesn't have a Camiel in for store movie to. Yes, technically he's been four movies, but yeah, but it's like when you got Hawkeye than an right, right. When you've got people more excited for a black widow movie and they are Batman movies, like how do we get here guys? Like what. It's all because Batman has not been portrayed well. Yeah, it's that's what it boils down to Batman has not been portrayed well, and we all know how I feel about that. Everybody note, like any of our listeners cries, you didn't like scream at the sky when you saw as shit like he was going to do what God you should've seen. My expression. I had to reread it a couple of times and I I had this dumbfounded look on my face. Like, let's no, you had a Rathikant moment screamed into the skies like snow. I did. I did. Yeah. This was the article that I sent you wasn't it? Yeah. Four, I send it to you. Tyler was looking at me and he's like, what the hell is wrong with you? What is I just showed him my phone. I couldn't even say nothing. I was just like. My phone was all up in his face and he kind of glanced at it. He's like, okay, and I'm like, oh, forget it. Send it to Mike or staying understand. So this is what they need to do because Lord knows like I said, what the fuck is going on with DC you at this point. But if they're going to scrap tissue or no, because I can't do that because they would killed him off. Okay. They need to just make a Batman beyond movie. No, not a lot of people like the Batman beyond the Terry mcginnis. Here for him. But at this point in the DC, this is where we're at, we're at the fucking Batman beyond and I think it could be done well given the information that we have now. Yes. Telling you how to make this work. I don't know the actor's name offhand, but get the gun by who was in a baby driver. Or not him just some other young up and coming actor, whoever it doesn't really matter. That's not important, but get back up a dump truck, full of fucking money to Michael Keaton's house, get him to play older, Batman, who trains the new Batman for the Batman beyond movie because he even looks like the that means from that show from the cartoon. I'm like, men fillet here fatally, what is his name? And still a gore? Yeah, insult Gordon, George. Get him to be Terry mcginnis and then get Michael Keaton to comeback and reprise. You can even keep the same continuity like that. Still the same back man from the eighty nine. You can say, all that shit happened in this future. Now he has a new souped up, you know, swim that suit. And this kid finds it and he takes on a mantle of the new Batman and Michael Keaton trains him how to be bet me like their ego. I dig it. That's the only way I could see them making this make sense going forward. Because honestly, at this point they've pretty much run out of ideas for how to make Batman relevant anymore. I mean to the point where I think they're just rebooting them again with his new Batman movie because I'm pretty almost positive. Been athletes not going to be in this, the kid that plays macgyver on the new series. He'd be all right to Joe Elwin isn't he in x. men first-class? Oh, yeah, he is. He's the, he's aunt cyclops, brother, dad. Or some shit. And whenever shoots the beam out of. Yeah, you sure him to fucking they won't. They won't lend him over from marvel. No, no, especially not. Now that they've acquired FOX. Wall, should they wipe away on a ship anyway, but anyway, see, this is what y'all fucking gay. This is what you could have gotten kids all for all you Zach Snyder apologised. This is where we going with this shit dark site. It was going to show up and kill Batman, and then we were going to be done with that character. So. I guess be glad that didn't happen because that's where it is. Bullshit was going. I'm just like. Get shit together over here. Like I just wanna go into the offices Warner Brothers and be like, oh, y'all motherfuckers fired. Everybody gotta go. We start scratch by everybody today contract. I'm sorry gal Gadot you're a great wonder woman, but we gotta wipe the slate. Clean start over. We gotta start from the ground up and get audit. Shoot in make that goddamn Batman beyond movie. I'm telling you get my kids. They keep gal Gadot. She'd be like the only one still let it wouldn't make sense. No, because then we'll have an aquaman and what happened to cyborg and what happened to the flash and they brought to many characters in true. That's true. Unless you just throw her into a fucking time vortex or something and pop her out somewhere else. It'd be like, oh, I'm the only surviving member of the original Justice league still here actually liked mom movie. So. Anyway. Okay. So for this last thing I wanted to do some a little bit different this week. Okay. One guide we're not gonna talk about anybody being founded and or molested and well, hell. I know. Right? Keep say it was a good day. Right, right. No, I specifically wanted to do this because there's a lot of movies coming on October, and I was kinda sleeping on a few movies. Somebody's are good or okay. Some of these look good. Somebody's bed really fucking now. I head like made a list and I'm going to kind of bounce around somebody's or skip over somebody's because obviously we're not gonna talk about venom because we've talked about that movie enough. Plus we're going to be doing a review of that movie next week. So we're, we're, you'll get your venom talk next week. Just calm down. Just do small sidebar. Did you see the commercial for the venom ESPN commercially? They're playing the song. We were watching the Michigan game, and I thought and I thought of you. I was like. Shit in his pants. No. Over the dam. Shitting on that song? Yeah. Yeah, anyways, the first one we got coming out Tober is on October fifth, a star is born? No, I'll give you a little brief synopsis says season musician, Jackson main discovers and falls in love with struggling artists alley. She has just about given up on her dream to make it big as a singer into Jackson coaxes her into the spotlight. But even as Elliot careers aches off, the personal side of their relationship is breaking down as Jackson fights, an ongoing battle with his own internal demons. Now been well, I know that you know a bit more about this than I do because this is a remake right. Yeah, this is a remake of a film Stein. Barbra Streisand. Okay. Okay. Now. Now, have you seen the original. I've seen bits and pieces of it, but no, not the full thing. Okay. Because I'm like, I don't know anything about this story at all besides just from what they showed in the trailer. And I was like, you know, this actually looks pretty good. Like I'm actually interested in the story that they're going to tell now for from what you do know about the original. Does this seem like they're just remaking it or did they kind of change the story for like a modern audience? I mean, just from, I really can't answer that just from the trailer, but it seems I would guess it's going to be the same basic premise with a modern feel to it. Okay. Okay. I mean, actually another thing about here because this is like something I would have seen with my mother just randomly like walking in and out. I think because in the trailer Bradley, Cooper is like a country musician who mates lady Gaga, I think, as opposed to be like purely about music. I think it's about acting in the original and not is film as opposed to music. If I remember right. I could be one hundred percent wrong. I probably shouldn't be talking about this like I know what I'm talking about it. I don't know what I'm talking about, but I think I know what I'm talking about. I don't know. Maybe I'm. Does. I'm thinking. 'cause I like history and things like this. I got a little more now, so I'm trying to think maybe the maybe the original wasn't. Barbara, maybe goes Deavere. Maybe the Barbra Streisand version was a remake of the original trying to. Yeah, yeah, it is. Okay. Because I think Judy, Garland. Was in the original in the fifties. It was about Hollywood remake and Barbara straits and the seventies, and it was about music remained. You make of the remain. So Scarface I think I think. Because it was Barbara Streisand and. The dude who looks like he's a country singer, buddy isn't a country singer. Buddy is do with the two first names, Chris, Chris, Chris, Chris, Chris? Yeah, yeah, crisscrossing. Yeah. Yes. And I think Judy Garland was in the original in the fifties was like frets known. It wasn't for the stair. Anyway, this is a remake of remained. Yes. The point on trying to get to. It took me ten minutes. No, you, yeah. No, I I'm interested in this for two reasons one because. I love how versatile Bradley Cooper is as an actor because if I didn't know that that was him doing voice of rocky raccoon, I would never have guessed he plays rocky. And then in this he's in that American sniper movie. He has like this kind of weird accent thing. Oh yeah, he does end in news. He kind of has, you know. Country. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. He's like, turn around. Won't look. Okay. Okay. But still I liked. I like that little accent that he had in American sniper those. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In he actually is a pretty good singer, too. Yeah. I don't know if they re dubbed his his imparts, but from what they showed a trailer, he's actually pretty good. I was like, okay, and he, he's directing this to actually, yeah, I saw that when I saw the trailer, I looked at it. I was like acting directing. He tends to do that quite often. He said, not that I got that marvel money. I'm gonna make my home right. I could tell Toby it's not the next Tyler payroll. No. Acting starring directing produced by right. Perry, Tyler Perry and Tyler Perry's. Tyler Perry fill by Tyler Perry, who Medina. But yeah, no, I, I like the message of this too, because there's a line in the trailer where. All eighty. Gaga's character, Allie. She says, she's like, you know, he's like, oh, we would do you write your own songs and stuff like that. And she was like, well, you know, everybody who's ever heard me seeing. They said they liked the way I sound, but they just don't like the way I look. And I was just like, you know, I was like, I like this. I like the the message or put in where he's like, you know, like, hey, look, I think you're beautiful in any other and you have a beautiful voice and you needs to be heard, and you don't need to be ashamed and afraid. Initially when I first heard it, this is coming out. I didn't really have any interest in after seeing Watson a trailer, four and like researching it for this. Like really good. Like I like this. I want to see this movie. But all right. Next up, we have coming out on October. Twelfth is bad times at the Elroy l now been why he put me onto this one. Quick synopsis is seven strangers each with a secret to bury me at a rundown hotel and Lake Tahoe in nineteen sixties California. Over the course of a fateful night, they all get one last shot at redemption before everything goes wrong. No. This reminded me a lot of. Do you do you remember the movie smokin aces now you had Ryan Reynolds in someone a bunch of other people were they all meet up at this casino and they're trying to get some money or some shit. There's a whole bunch of big name actors in. It's big on samba peace, and there's all kinds of crazy action should Chris pines in and a bunch of other people. It's it's actually a good movie common in a much other people and Jeremy Piven in a bunch of other people. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to keep going down a cast list of smoking. Reagan. They're all assess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're all they're all trying to kill Jeremy, Piven character because he's like he stole some money from some mob dude or something like that. He's got a hit on them and they all converge on his one hotel and Vegas to kill him. And it's just this crazy shit that happens like if feels a lot like that movie, this particular one has Jeff bridges, dude. Chris Hemsworth is in it. Okay. The chick from fifty shades of grey, isn't it Dakota Johnson and his name and a few other people. But the trailers really vague about what's happening, but they, they all have some kind of secret like they're not being totally honest about who they are or why they are there. And it looks like Chris Hemsworth might actually be playing the villain in this, which that'll be interesting turn for him because he doesn't typically ease. Usually the. The goodguys the dashing, you know, good looking funny. But he, he looks like he's going to have a villain turn. This Jeff bridges is playing a priest in the movie, but he's not really a priest. The pantley in in just looks like a bunch of interesting characters that are going to be meeting up at this one place who all have their own agendas, and then all hell breaks loose, and then they kind of it's kind of like one of those survived the night movies. Glassman standing type shit, and I'm like, it has an interesting premise and I'm like this. This could be good. Like I don't know been want like you. You were the one that turned me onto. What about this? Has you interested? Because this was one of the ones that you said from earlier to quote earlier, like you don't go to a whole lot, but this one was one that you said you wanted to go. See, absolutely. I wanna go see this. It comes across a lot like like clue or any of the three in which you have a bunch of different people seemingly from different backgrounds or altogether broad, some location for unknown reasons. It reminds me a bit of like the cube or clue or something along those lines. And what really I'm really caught me. It's interesting was that Jeff bridges character plays a guy named Flynn. Okay. Okay. Like try now is. Yeah. Oh, cool. Oh, Flynn lives. Flynn lives? Yes. So if daft punk does the soundtrack to this? I'm so. I'm all over this shit yet drew Goddard he I'm pretty sure is writing and directing nece and he did cabin in the woods if you've seen that. Yes, and that's really, he's, he's going to, he's going to be doing this and he he's a good person where he like he takes like tropes that you normally see movies, and he kind of turns them on their head because all these characters look like caricatures. They're like characters, but I have a feeling he's going to do something different with them, like subverter expectations and just play with your your preconceived notions of how this movie's gonna play out. I'm really interested to see what they do with this. It looked interesting. So. I'm excited for it. Now, this one, the next one we got is going to be. This also comes out on October, twelve, I man. Now I man is the riveting story of Nasr's mission to land a man on the moon, focusing on Neil Armstrong and the years nineteen sixty through nineteen sixty nine a visceral first person account based on the book by James r Hansen, the movie will explore the sacrifices in in cost in the cost on Armstrong and on the nation of one of the most dangerous missions in history. Now, see, this is one I'm excited about. Yeah, I've always liked space. Sure. Ryan Gosling also the he doesn't really do anything for me, but. Yeah, ABS though. Do anything for me. Okay. Okay. I've tried multiple times and it's just like, but anyways. I've really been always interested in space always said, I'd never wanna go. Oh sure. But the stuff like space exploration, stuff like that real space exploration not, you know, nine stolen interstellar, you know. You know aliens and shazier. No real space for science. It's always interested me and this being about Neil Armstrong. I mean, big interest. I actually saw a preview for some documentary that they got showing at the AMC theaters, and I was like, oh, I wanna see that in Tyler looked up at it and he west the name of the the documentary. And he's like, you want to go see documentary. I was like, no, I thought that was the new space movie, but the Neil Armstrong guy and he's like, okay. Nope, not really there. There has been a big controversy around this movie because apparently the movie came out yet, but I think he got showing some kind of film festival or something recently, and there's a big controversy around it. Because they don't have a scene where he plants the flag on the moon, and I'm like, I seriously like come to fuck on like movies that out yet. Well, I mean, like I said, they saw, you know, and I'm like, they're not gonna, go reshoot and put, you know him planting a flag on a motive shit. It's like it's whatever. I don't bother me. The controversy is because he didn't do it it our anti. Yes, yes, basically. Yeah. Intentionally making a little exactly right, right. Like like this is their version of Neil in for the national anthem. I guess what people are taking this ask because they're not putting a flagging, it don't like the movie over it. The movie is about America and what we were going through at the time and stuff like that. But you could make the same argument of is like, well, they don't have the civil rights movement and this movie in the Martin Luther King eight showing up and it's not about that. Like it's about the story of the first. Man on the moon, like a story about him, his life, his family, all the trials and tribulations. He had to go through the training and shit because they had never done anything like this before. They had a bunch of failed missions before and after this. So it's like you. I feel like people just want to get politicize everything and they wanna get mad at something. Absolutely. Everything is called outrage. You know, the moon landing was fake. The earth is flat and Ryan Gosling needs to eat. It's fucking dude, dude. I was just about to bring up. I was like, all you, you know, we never landed on the moon people in shit out there, which we did a whole conspiracy theory episode. I'm Mina talked about that one 'cause I don't necessarily buy into it, but I do think it's interesting, but yeah, I, there's going to be all kind of people like, oh, this is an accurate. They really went to if you guys could see how hard I just rolled my like. Come out his bullshit. You can't do it because your microphone stand. Right, right. But I mean, I, I wanna see this. I'm not necessarily going to go to theaters and see it, but I do want to watch this though because I am interested in that story in how they got there like the technological advancements and make in the training that they had again, simulating space and what it will be like on the moon, like I am interested to see this movie. So I definitely want to see just not necessarily theater wanna see, oh yeah, it's not an opening night kind of thing. The next one. I don't have a whole lot say about, but I thought the road enter case when you guys it saying. Also coming out on October twelve is goosebumps to haunted, Halloween. I did actually see this trailer. I knew that we were talking about it so synopsis, here's two boys facing onslaught from witches, monsters ghouls and talking dummy after they discover a mysterious book by author are Elstein. From the trailer, it kind of felt like they redid the second. The first one they had see, I didn't see. So I mean it Jack Black's not in this one, what the hell happened? Yeah, he's not any. I don't wanna see now. That would be the only thing I was. I was excited because Jack black was coming back in, you know, he just did the house with the clock in the wall. No, she, he got the house in the clock in the walls money that that was goosebumps when I saw the trailer. But no, he's a wizard in that one. Not author anyway, I, I don't know. They kinda redid the first one. They have RL Stein books and the kid opens it, and let's all the monsters out and all the same Munster's that seem to be in this trailer in this one, including the damned dummy and. It, then they got to put it all back in the book. That was how the premise of the first one went? Yeah, it's good for what it is. It's a family friendly. Sure. I'll, ah, wing ish movie. Sure. Is monsters, jeez, use a Halloween. Well, she's like h. Bullshits, but it's, that's all it is and it looks very empty. Yeah, it's like popcorn. It's like, you know, tastes good, but there's no like, you know, calorific content that's good for you. It's like there's no nutritional value at all. Zack. It's there. I think that's what this is going to be. And now that I know the Jack Black's knocking to be in, it really is I probably won't even see this one. I don't think Tyler's even seen the first one, which I not sure how I saw it and he didn't put he's goal sloop fucked. Probably watched it while babysit and somebody's kids because like I said, it's a family friendly. Look, you would have somebody kids watching dead pools. Other people's kids. She's my own. Okay. I can't take liberties with other people's kids if my kids are destined to say, fuck anyways. So fog. Okay. So for the next one, October nineteenth, this one I knew absolutely nothing about and I want trailer to we last night. It looks so good. It's called mid-nineties. Yes, it is. In nineteen ninety s Los Angeles, a thirteen year old. Stevie spends his summer navigating between a troubled home life in a group of new friends that he meets at a motor avenue skate shop. It's written and directed by Jona hill people. And I'm like, okay, I'll see you Jona between data McBride producing the Halloween movie Jona hill, right? Indirect initially, y'all really stepping out of your comfort zones and doing some interesting shit that I would've never pegged you for like eats. Okay. Have either one of you ever seen the movie kids know never even heard of it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. You know what I'm talking about. Eight feels a lot like them where it's it's kind of like this. It's not an aimless story per se, but it's just kind of like a character study in a look at like this type of culture at that time and like what life was like in the mid nineties skateboarding culture. And this kid, he kind of finding his own like him and his brother don't get along. And he kinda gets in with his group of like, you know, like rebellious skateboarding kids, and they. Kind of become his surrogate family, and he's starting to become more out of control. He's getting into parties and drinking and on his shit because he wants to be like them. And his older brother is like afraid of these kids shit because his brother was always like the big scary person his outta he, he's with these kids and she, he doesn't see him the same way and you know their relationship starts to go through even more problems like this. This looks really good like this. This can almost be like a documentary almost. Oh, yeah, I got that feel from it too. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, wow, like this, are we thinking of the same film? Why. Four kids was about like teenagers at have sex STD's and stuff that day that is yes, they well, I was more so describing this movie, but no, it just made me get the same feel of kids because yes, there's there's the sex and STD's, but that's kinda like the thing at the end. Like the whole movie isn't about that. The the movies, basically just about a look into the life of these teenagers who are partying and getting fucked up and audit shit. And it's like, you know, you kind of the underbelly of that white middle America, you know, middle class lifestyle where it's like, this is the kinda shit that your kids are off doing when you're not around and shit because they were pretty well off. There was a couple of kids in that movie who lived kinda shitty lies. But for the most part, they were pretty well off, but we're still getting into some pretty hardcore dark shit. That's more so what I mean, not the skateboarding and all that. But no, I'm good on you Joan hill for for doing something that's outside of the norm in for this to be. I think his direct to'real debut. I don't think he's made. This is a good move like I could totally see him getting like award like buzz shit actually win anything, but I could see them at least nomination. Right, right. Nominating him for something for this, you know, like maybe best director if the movie turns out. Good, but I what I've seen I was like, I, I would totally watch this like I'm down for this might be a theater adventure. Sure, sure. I'd see. I mean, I is low budget is it seems though is probably going to be like in select theaters and shit. Still haven comes through one near us. I'd go see it. I'm Dow for this one, we've only got six to choose from. Right, right. Pretty much. But did this next movie. Is the hate you give. Now, this one also comes out Tober nineteenth. Star Carter is constantly switching between two worlds. The poor, mostly black neighborhood where she lives and the wealthy mostly white prep school this, she attends the uneasy balance between these world is soon shattered. When she witnesses the fatal shooting of her childhood best friend at the hands of police officer facing pressure from all sides of the community star was find her voice and decide to stand up for what's right now. I'm gonna tell you straight up. This is going to be a message movie going to be a black lives matter message. You know. No. Progressive political. So if you don't like this kinda shit, you're probably gonna skip this movie, but. From what I saw on a trailer, it looks powerful. Like I'm really interested to see. It's kinda like. How to describe it feels like dear white people meets fruitvale station. I don't know if you've seen either one of those fruitvale station is the first movie. Michael Jordan did with Ryan Kugler before they did creed and Black Panther right fruitvale station is the story about that. I don't know if you've ever seen it, but there was this YouTube video a few years ago of these guys who got some kind of fight or something on a subway in New York or Philadelphia. Some like that and the cop, shoots the kid while they have him handcuffed on the ground face down on the ground, and he was like, I was trying to reach from taser, but there was commotion or something and I put my gun and shot him. He middle of the subway and they were ever remember hearing about that yet. It was like, this is back before black lives matter and all this shit in like before we were seeing shootings like every other fucking day on the news, but they killed him in front of like dozens of fucking people on the subway, and it was all over. YouTube and all this shit, and it was his big controversy and made a movie about it. And so it feels like dear white people meets that movie because she goes to like white preparatory school, and she's black girl from the ghetto and in Detroit, she talks about how the perception of her to these, the life that she lives at home. She has to pretend she's not that way when she's at her school to to be around the other kids and not stand out as the ghetto girl and shit like that. But then when her best friend gets killed by a cop. Over some silly shit. Like it looks like there is one thing in that kind of bothered me. They get pulled over about a cops. He makes the boy get out of the car, and he's trying to be all cool and flirt with her and shit and the cop. He's going back to his car to go run a place or some shit, and she if he has his hands like on the the window seal of the car, and he starts to reach into the car and she's like, don't move. Don't do. Don't give them no reason to start tripping this any other. He picks up his hairbrush and goes sorta like brushing his hair in a cop thinks he has a gun and kills them. Now that bothered me because I'm like, if that's going to be the catalyst for what sets off the events that happens later in the movie that I kind of call bullshit on that one because I'm like in real life when he's things happen, they misconstrue a lot of shit of reaching from Wally. I was getting my d I was getting some out of the glove box, identification, insurance, some shit like that. No black man. In two thousand eighteen you're gonna read is going to reach his fucking car for a goddamn hairbrush. After he got pulled over on a, I don't care how much you try to impress his basic pussy. No one is going to do this. So that was the one thing in a trailer that really bothered me. And I was just like. Like I get what you guys are trying to convey in this, but if this is how you're going to convey, I'm not. I'm not totally sold on that. Well, yes. So you think it's naive? Aotea is unreal. It's exactly. Yes, because I'm like between Trayvon Martin and Falana Casteel and all these other people who've been shot and killed. Ain't nobody move in for nothing, especially some silly shit like come on man. Like I almost like without a head that common. No, no, no. I think that's the point. They're going the fact that this kid thought that he didn't have to worry about giving his color in. He did. Yeah, I think that's the point. They're gonna go for it which case? I'm one hundred percent for the movie. Yeah. I mean, I don't know it just it just rubs me as naive to the point of it's like they're just making him unrealistically naive for the sake of telling the story. Because like I say, it'd be one thing if he was like reaching for something important, but to be trying to get yo brush out and try and impress girl like year garage about these cops, Tacoma. But that's the point to this as a young black kid just doing something noxious is going to get yourself up. I think that's the point. I don't think it. I don't think it it really deteriorates from buying into the catalyst for the message. This movie's gonna give if anything, I think it makes it more realistic. You take some kid who doesn't understand just what he does could end up getting him killed, and his girlfriend of the girl who's trying to court does as she tries to warn him. He handed up and gets killed. Like I think it justifies. Justifies the fear that black people have when being in this situation. At the same time, we'll proving that there's a reasonable reason. There's a reason for having this to begin with. I e all he did was have a black brush. Okay. But I mean until we until we see how it plays out in the film fully, we can't judge it. But I mean. Capital's a guy over the cop car is ten, ten fifteen feet at not even fifteen feet away maybe because not only pull you over pretty close. So like you're telling me for being that close to a kid with a brush in his hand, you automatically make this gun and shoot. That's that's like you. But then again, I'm I'm sure lading. I haven't seizure film to, I don't know. But I mean, just at face value, I completely disagree with the point you were trying to make in watching the trailer. I can see the argument that you're making. And like I said, like you said, and until we see the movie, we were just speculating at this point. I mean, maybe when we see the events that lead up to him getting shot, how exactly it plays out in the fall out from that, you know, it might make a little bit more sense, but just from the little tidbit that they showed me in a trailer, I was like men like you. You kinda was like putting yourself in unnecessary risk for no real reason because even if in my mind, even if he was a white new in copies, like put your hands on the car and stay here until I get back if you start reaching in there for anything that's not related to something that's going to help you in this situation is like, why are you trying to be Kuan shooting start moving at all? Yeah. Like I said, I'm not trying to by no means justify no police overreactions and the societal fear that some white people have for people of color and shit. Like I'm not trying to make a case for that per se. But like I said, just in the time that we live in unless this movie takes place in like the some, I can't even think of a decade. We're in somebody would've thought like, yeah, that's this'll be fine it. It'll be a good idea. But just right now, especially, I'm like, man, you. You can't be doing that kind of silly shit. Especially to, like I said, because it wasn't a thing of like he was doing something where you would be legitimately outraged like, oh my God, he was just doing what you told him to do. He was getting his idea and all this other shit like what happens real life. Whereas it's just like on on just trying to be cool. And this is like may come fuck, oh, man, like you. You don't know. It made me more. I'm not gonna lie, maybe more mad at him than anything else because I was like, what are you fucking doing? As a blind person, you have to know, you can't give these fuck is no reason to even think that you doing shit. That's going to get them on edge to shoot. You don't give them no reason whatsoever. It's fucked up as you have to have that mindset. But at the same time, it's like, I, I don't know what the fuck was even going through his head because like I say, in a trailer, she is like pleading with him, like stop do not do this stop fucking moving like this shit ain't cute. It ain't funny and blah, he just blast s and this is like, man, he was like, well, you hear the cops, I said, don't move to Saudi, shoots him. And it was just like that point. Men like she was like, crying, like, stop, don't do this. Yes. And it's like you. She goes to a white preparatory school and you live in a hoodie. You can't tell me that you. I don't know. Like I said, woman, the movie comes out. I'll have a better idea of what happened and maybe the context will be different l. feel better about it. But right. Right now as it stains from what I've seen in trailer was like, dude, you can't be doing that kind of tension fate. Thank you know, but, but but that is the dichotomy between the two characters him with his own negligent willing to give the benefit of the doubt. The police not do something stupid. So he's trying to act cool to oppresses girl who is already been established in the trailer. Just a few moments earlier. She lives like a double life and that she lives in the ghetto in the ghetto. She has to be like somebody who lives from the ghetto where she cannot bring her home life into her prep school because those are two different locations. Like there's already a big separation in the personalities of those two people. That's fair. Oh, my God. I could talk on night about. That's, but okay. So the very last one I wanted to talk about. Is this movie comes out on Tober twenty. Sixth, it is air strike. Now the synopsis for this one is during World War Two, five, Chinese people fight. They wait through Japanese air attacks to protect a military machine. Now, the synopsis does not give you the whole story. Bruce Willis is in this movie, Bruce Willis plays kind of light air force general or whatever. Dollars what the hierarchy is in the air force or whatever. But he's basically training these Chinese fighters to his war two, right? He's training them how to fight the Japanese and because they have superior Ehrman getting their asses kicked and he's there to train them how to fight better on behalf of the US and this. It looks so bad so bad on so many look. I'm not the only one that, yes, so bad. The special effects don't look on that good. I mean, it's whatever on that front, it's not okay. They tried to make it. They try to take it from like it starts off and it makes it feel like, oh, they're making like saving private Ryan. But then it turns into like fast and furious or fucking like top gun about halfway through the trailer. There's a part where the it looked kind of cool. One of the plane's wings get shot and it starts to crash on top of another plane in like one of the Chinese fighter pilots, he jacks from his seat in does like a fucking like backflip like out of it, not like, you know, the pair shoe pulls out ownership. It looks like he did some fast and furious type ejected from the car, flipping in the air and auditions. And I was like, is this opposed to be, are we supposed to be taking a serious as a right now? And I'm sorry, poor Bruce Willis, like he is hated up so much in his movie. Like honestly, besides. Well, what was the movie that's coming out? The shovel movie that we wanna see. Oh, the new one on breakable and Glazer. Black clad one? Yeah, glass he, he actually looks like he's trying in that one, but Bruce Willis has been phoned it in for like the last five, six years. His career. Like if you've ever seen red or like the most recent diehard movie or anything else like he's just phone initiating. He's just gimme moth luck and patriot or cop out if you ever saw at bullshit guy. One where he goes on a killing spree. That one was pretty good killing. They come in and they kill his family. Mover Chon travel one. Oh, no, no, no, no. I know what someone is to remake it at Charles bras. See, I didn't see that. That was pretty good. Okay. Yeah, the remake of the trial. No, he might like the vigilante killer. I like him in Looper. I haven't seen a death wish though, but he he just looks like he's just hamming it up in this shit, and he's just like, yeah, whatever. Like I'll just do. There's so many parts into trailer where he's like, he's like Klabin shit this, like what the hell is this? This be a gritty warm and then he's like, who put in Hollarin' shit. I'm pretty sure you say get became all the fuck. I was just like men, Bruce. I just feel bad because he's always going to have a special place in my heart because the diehard movies like he's gonna love Bruce Willis, but I'm just like men. I don't know. I feel like at some point actors should just stop doing shoot, you know, was just like man because you just need a paycheck at this point. Like give him his rotates from whatever she he's done and stop stop, dragging him into these fucking movies because I'm pretty sure this is one of those Chinese funded Hollywood movies like the great wall. Mad Dame in a few other movie was not no, fuck. No. This is Matt, Damon would opponent to. The great wall of China. I'm like it though, on trailer and it looked okay. And then we win saw that movie. And I'm like, oh, you went to see. Like the last day that it was playing always like, oh, hey, we're here. We need to kill some time before something. So let's go out just movie. Got it was bad. No, but this this feels like a Chinese when I'm pretty sure one of the production companies Chinese company, and it was funny. I was watching YouTube video last night when we were talking about one like secrets of Hollywood and shit like that. And they were saying, like, you know, sometimes budgets of movies get over inflated because the mafia uses it to launder to like wash their money and shit. And I was like, yeah, I feel like some Chinese mob like funded this movie and was like, hey, we need to. We need to launder some money. So here we're just going to fund this bullshit and put this out like that is put a name on it, try right. It makes so much sense now. Right. Exactly. Men. I almost want to do this is like a drunk review, like this is comes out on like Netflix or DVD or some shit. I wanna do just like drunk review of a movie one day because I, I always see people do like drunk view, seven. I'm like, man, that will be so fun to do one time. I don't know how I would maintain record in odyssey. I probably wouldn't even recorded him episodes. I'd be too fucking smash to do it. We just have to maybe a buzzed review. Hit record in, let it go. You couldn't be. We couldn't have show notes. We couldn't be switching back and forth between the pages like we do. It's just going to be, you me invent and we talk. Right. That's me. I'll drink the more I want. I'm just like, man, I'm just like man, poor, Bruce Willis, don't don't keep signing up for this. You know, and plus two, I can't support these like not trying to be like racist. She liked it, but I can't support these Chinese funded movies because no, because China is so fucked up with with the way they like restrict information to people in like the working conditions of a lot of people in that country in like a lot of places are in famine and drought and shit Anders. It's, it's fucked up. So when I see this kind of status, like, man, I can't cosign ish. I can't financially support these movies because the way your government treats people. I mean to the point where they censor the internet in all kind of shit. It's like I can't. No, I can't cosign notion feel like. Feel like back, like back during two thousand one after nine eleven happened and like autos commercials, that would come out and you're like, if you're buying pot, you're supporting a terrorist and shit. That's kind of what I feel like with this kinda shit. Like if you pay to go see this shit, you're supporting communist oppression and just Chinese propaganda trying to boost up day country to make a same like, oh, you know, we're not. It's all good, not so bad. Once you get to know me like, no, I'm good. I, there's a few what he's little hidden gyms that are coming on October that I was like, you know, I want to try to start going to see more shit like between work and doing this and does life in general. It's hard for me to get as much as I would like to, especially to get all of us together to try and go see something as well. But it's like there's, there's a few hidden Jim zone heroes, like, man, you know, I didn't hear anything about this. I should definitely go see this movie. So there's a few days I definitely want to go see, we definitely got to go see the, hey, you give because we gotta we gotta do review, whatever. Sure, because I definitely want to talk about that one. Like I said, maybe when I see the movie in full out, change my mind on the circumstances that led up to the big plot point of the movie. But yeah, there's there's a few of these where I'm just like, yeah, and I and been sold me after seeing that trailer and him telling me about it. So me on what is it bad times? It's El royale that looks good. I wanna see. Plus Chris, Chris Hemsworth is starting to become quickly becoming one of my favorite actors like that. Minna black movie that they're making my. I definitely want to see this excited for that one. Yeah, because now that he's leaning more into his comedic chops, I'm like, you know, because he's always been like the Hanes som leading may and action rotated, but he's actually really fucking funny too. So I'm like, yeah, he okay. Oh God. Where are you about to go with the? Not really. But he's kind of like becoming the new Will Smith where he's like, he can do both where he can do the comedy and shit like that, but he will turn on and do the drama action shit. He's only person compared to because I wanted to say Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy didn't do a lot of dramas. Now he did some. In was mostly comedic. Yeah, like even even help me out here Ben, what was that movie with him and Richard Pryor and REDD Foxx and it takes place in like the prohibition era life? No, no, no, no, no. Red FOX was in that. He was already. That one was kind of a serious movie, but there was a lot of comedic that and like he was kind of trying out about that movie. I love them Harlem nights and come into America. Favorite Eddie Murphy movies creating Roman too. No, not quite good callback, though. But yeah. Anything else about any of the ones that we talked about? I mean, thoughts, overall, anything? No. I mean, like you said, there's a couple of good ones that have the potential that are possibly worth spending the nineteen dollars ago theater for. Low low price ninety nine you too. Can come see air strike or whatever. Fluxes shoes. There's a couple of them where I'm just like in not none wasting my money, and then there's some that I'm like, yeah, you're lucky if I watch you on that flight. Right, right. Is like a bar and this is playing by, can we turn into sports or anything else please? Jesus. Yeah, that is it for the show guys. All remember. You can always find us at our home when giant leap for Lipson dot com or on itunes, Spotify, Google, play music or anywhere else. You get your podcast, make sure to show us some love. So go ahead and light subscribe rate, follow review, and all that shit. If you have any questions, comments are concerned or e. You can always be at official odeal p. g. Miller, you can also find Twitter at giant leap. Number four. 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Jason Momoa, Plastic Protester

"The. Hi, I'm calling your host for the good news podcast. I'm neil. The other host the good news podcast is your source for good news, fun stories auditory, delight and sonic. Joy. We're bringing you all of this goodness from beautiful downtown Chicago do. Tuten do denier doing. Your personal do beat back. Two games. Thrones. It is. Oh, okay. Tell me game of thrones. I'm a fan when you think of characters in game of thrones. Are there any that like jump to mind? I will say -tarian I love. Yup. Bron? Yup. Love br. Br Brian of the blackwater. Yes. Who's funny? I love him. That's funny. I don't I p settling scraggly of have love him. Great character. He is. And he's a clear he's a clear character. You know, sir. See I think is just a lunatic. And she's so great. I love how weird she has about the elephants. Yeah. What does she love? The spoiler alert. It's like the one weird requests. And she just keeps mentioning it. Okay. So I bring all this up. I would say even though call drogue oh has not been on the show in a while. Season one call Drago has not been on there. But I would argue still one of the most remembered most prominent must famous characters on the show. Absolutely. When I feel like when people think of game of thrones, they think of his long hair, his big beer hall. I know he's in real life. I know he's a really big, dude. Yeah. But the way they were able to shoot him on the show. I mean, he's just massive. And he's so handsome. He's okay hedging, you're hedging. He's he's a scary handsome. Oh, sure. Intimidate. Yeah. Intimidating handsome. Yeah. Yeah. So I bring this up because it takes a particular actor a particular person to play a character like that Jason momoa. Yeah. Love this guy. Yeah. His his had a very similar look for pretty much the entire time. We culturally of kind of known about him. I feel like throne says his first big. Yeah. His first big entry into the cultural scene. So he's had that look for a long time. And recently his shaved his beard made a bit of a splash. You knew about the beer Chang. Did it was it came up on a couple of my slack channels? People were talking people were slacking people. No. He shaved. Yeah. People know that he had a beard. They no he shaved they knowing no longer has a beard. I would like to tell you why. Because if you didn't actually watch his video. You might not know why I have no idea. Why protesting plastic? Do it. Isn't that? Interesting. Can I protest plastic? He is quoted in this video is saying I just want to do this to bring awareness that plastics are killing our planet. Not news Jason. But. But how awesome that he's using his fame, and like doing this thing that people are paying attention to for a reason? Everybody should be doing it is that what you shave your beard. Yes, you're protesting protesting plastic every day of my life. Jasem emotion his beard. He was handsome before his handsome now that he is protesting trash and plastic and encouraging people to think about using more aluminum because aluminum aluminium for our UK listeners. It's more fun to sail you minium aluminium aluminum as Jason momoa say is infinitely recyclable. That's such a bold statement. It is. I mean, we're drinking out of aluminum cans right now aluminum can be melted down and reforge d- way more times than plastic. It's just an interesting move by a famous person to do something big on social media. And have it means something to have it. Be floor reason. Get people talking. Then tell them why they're totally thanks for listening. Do you have good news incredible? Or maybe wanna tell us a joke ride DEA? Excellent Email us at Hello. At the good news, podcasts dot FM or leaves a voice mail at seven seven three two one seven zero one five six you can also tweet us at the good news pot and follow us on Instagram too. And if you love the good news podcasts think about supporting us on our patriot page. Most of our music is by putting bear.

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What You Need to Know If You Are Casually Dating

The Date Podcast

44:18 min | 2 years ago

What You Need to Know If You Are Casually Dating

"We know you love us. But the information on our podcast is provided for educational and entertainment purposes, only it is not intended as a substitute for professional advice of any kind. If you or anyone, you know needs professional help, please seek mental health services. Welcome to the day podcast the show for anyone navigating the dating and relationship world, we interview celebrities talk news disgust eating do's and don'ts and debate relationship, topics. We are available on I tunes the play Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Please subscribe subscribing review. If you like what you hear check out our website date, podcast dot com. For more information, follow us on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. Now, let's get on with the show. Holly. And I stayed up texting until two in the morning, and we spent the whole next day texting. Each other too. She seemed perfect. Oh, wow. Holly just told me what she's wearing right now. It is pretty hot. Now. Whatever it is. I guarantee you she's not wearing it. She's lying to you to make you like that. Because no woman in the history of the world is ever just sitting around reading architecture magazines in my old cheerleader uniform. Okay. Maybe she's lying about architecture magazine. Oh, no. This is bad. She just sent me a text that was clearly meant for someone else. Hey, baby. I picked up some takeout from Generose be home soon. Okay. Yes. This sounds bad. But let's think about this. Okay. It could be for a brother war, maybe her sick debt. And then I want you to do me on the couch. Okay. Maybe not as thick dad. Or a very sick dad and the right? Sorry. Emma. Oh my gosh. I like so out of my coverage out right now. It's weird. Right. It's different. Did you like that clip? Yes. Well, I mean, I'm like how about your mother? But hey, welcome to the podcast. Yep. You'll be her again and fulling Zayed's mode for MS. We're changing changing it up a little bit. But there's a reason why we played that Assode of power. Limit your mother. Yes today. We're gonna talk about dating in two thousand nineteen or the lack thereof and how I met your mother is great because it has a lot of great scenarios that we all go through. And one thing that I'll just quickly share as you know, there's a lot of things need to know about dating in two thousand nineteen and one thing is thousand nine hundred one more time nineteen okay? And one thing is texting is it. Yeah. It's it's a huge part pain. And it's it's a way to like communicate quickly. But as you saw on the clip like you can say something, and it can get misconstrued or the tone is not communicated your like reading at a certain way. Yeah. Yeah. Or you text the wrong person, which I've done before. And like you're like oh shit. And she said, oh, you're texting the wrong person. And I don't think we should date anymore. Yeah. So it has bit me in the the butt hole. Good gross. Yeah. Really grills. All right, Emma. Yes. What's going on today? Things. Things are happening. What is going on today? Have a few things to talk about let me turn up with the fact that my birthday is coming up, and like two months already like pumped up for it already know what I'm gonna do for my birthday. I've started planning so fun titties for my birthday month. It's gonna be great. Fun fun titties plan activity. Why does your birthday have to be about you? Why can't it be about the people that are doing the celebrating with? Because I know Emma, it's like a birthday year for her. Like her. It's all about you know, it is. No it is. Okay. Be selfless. So what are we gonna have fun? Yes. Especially you. Now, I'm gonna force you to have fun. I'm gonna wind board you better. What playing the way? Seriously wine board at somebody on the you know, gave with would love it. Tell me tell tell the audience why we're all gonna love it. So you guys mud. Donna is coming out with an album, and it drops on my birthday. Lee shit. That is big news, everyone big news. It was really great. Because like the World Cup Turner on my birthday queer eye came out on my birthday. I was in Florida where my birthday and this year Madonna is going to drop an album on my birthday. Did she do it for me? I don't know. I'm gonna pretend like she. Did she probably did how about you? Listen to this show her an Oprah like they drink wine and listen to show at the same thing. They knew they looked you up. When I am db. Are you? I am. I am your okay, dad, you anyways. So Madonna is coming out with the album, and she also debuted at her first song this past week has Maluwa in it. And I love me Ma Luma. Yes, he is a Colombian singer. And so, of course, as long as called medigene, and I follow me on Instagram too. And it was like, so he posted this cute little video. He likes so emotional like listening to the song for the first time. Like, he was in tears, and I was like same bro saved because Madonna's dropping this album when my birthday. Yeah. Yeah. I'm super. Oh, it's called Medellin is it. Yeah. How do you spell that? Oh here. It is. Play like, Vince. Oh, no. It's your failing heart or here on social security like announced. Oh, yeah. Is it a long in Trump? Yeah. Planner you what are you doing? I think you're failing at this so expelling at the soundboard. It's a long frigate intro is this a movie. Okay. Took talk about it. So talk about it. It has me on it. And so it's really cool because they both like in the picking turn singing Spanish, I just love the song. Like, it was on repeat. Like, I realized when it came out 'cause I was like, oh my gosh. I need this on for the rest of my life. So her album is going to have to have seen songs. She has another time with malu-malu. She has a song with quavo. Strong winds. Here. Yeah. She also, which is really exciting. So I'm just like it's just it's like a like, I'm on a loss of words, because it's like the Spanish influence is going to be so great, and I'm just so excited because it's frigging Madonna like it's Madonna like mica virgin a like right now in my little league dry. Patch is my theme song again. Oh. Virgin now. Feeling version is it like the Sahara desert. Why do you have to take it that far? Or is it is it anyway, speaking. No, okay. Speaking of thinking of not dating Wendy Williams has filed for divorce Brown. Is this new? No, it's not like it's official like it's officially like. She's filing for divorce from Kevin hunter after twenty one years of marriage. So remember like I like we spoke about how he had gotten some other girl pregnant and they were separated, but we weren't sure what was going to happen. She has officially filed for divorce, and it got to the point where she like doesn't have as an executive producer of the Wendy Williams show. Yeah. So she has seen it work romance. Right. Because she's he's a producer of the show. I don't know. I don't spoke to me like she made him be a producer to like. Balance the relationship. That's how it felt to me. I could imagine, you know, at work in the end cut. And then she's like, hey, baby. Do you wanna have a little action in the in the in the back green room and she say in? He's like, yeah. As do it. And then she's like take clothes baby. And that's how started it sounds like everybody on this set did not like him because it sounds like everyone's relieved that it's no longer a stressful or tense working in buyer men. Yeah, he had sex or kissed somebody at work before. No, no. Onto with women at a nunnery or something. Yes, I was a nun. And then I decided to no long, you broke your celibacy dead. You sell MAG. Like a virgin came on in lost every discuss so hot. Yeah. Okay. And you took a an elephant and you wrote off into the sunset. All right. See lancaster? Okay. So he so they broke up. Yeah. Divorce? I wonder who has the money who has the money. Do you think they have a pre-nup? I don't because I feel I feel she's loaded. I do I do to what on this didn't say anything echo. What's Wendy Williams net worth? Wendy Williams is worth an estimated forty million US dollars. She makes her own ten million US dollars per year. That's a lot of dough. It sh- right there. So hopefully, she had a pre-nup for her sake. Hopefully. Yeah. Hopefully, they don't have one dog. So they'll they, you know, eighteen oh, but mercy has a son that. But yeah. So he's, you know, he's a grown ass, man. Well, that's good. We don't like to hear about divorces. But now, but one percent of us will get divorced. If it has to happen. I mean, what are you gonna do? Exactly. All right. What else you got? Okay. So. I wasn't sure. So I read this. And I wasn't sure how was going to feel about it. When I saw pictures. Except I was pleasantly surprised and very pleasantly still turned on. Really? Yeah. I was like. Tim still hit it. You and your technique failing FM, please play that Madonna song again, play them donnas. I'm though I could find it can't it was so hard. So jason. Doc, his beer, I heard that. And I was like a little scared because I was like what if the beard is like a hot of his head or his space. Right. Like what if he because I've seen him clean shaven before? But this is when he was younger and like without air, Jason momoa was walking minute who could still hit a headache? Seventy has he's married. So I feel like non dude your rain what's to peel. Of the beard. What it just it just matches look at? But not all guys can do the beer to the right? He is someone that why are playing this music. He is someone that looks both hot with the beard and without a beer, long hair or short hair. So he is just like a hot man like he can probably be balled, and I can probably find him attractive. So his cO the good face. If you have if you're attractive, you can pull off anything is that what you're saying. Is that is that basically it, and I mean, I got to talk about Jason momoa being hot. And you like let me so like, I mean, I think he's a he's I just don't think he's a good actor on say. I mean, he I didn't see and I almost pulled the trigger and spent like the four ninety nine but I didn't. Instead, I watched the flash. Do you watch the flesh now? Oh, okay. What do you make that face? It's a great show. It's like it's a show that you watch. I didn't know that. I'm I'm I'm asking a question. I said, isn't it cancelled question, Mark? I don't believe that. Okay. I don't know either. Okay. Jason. Yeah. Good for you changes. Good changes everything because you can't keep he's known for the beard. Yep. And it shows that he's a dynamic man because off the beard he can pull off maybe the stash he can pull off. Maybe no hair any probably can still hit that. Oh, no. I'm just thinking that you. I mean, obviously, many 'cause he named his title goodbye. Cal drago. And then it's like, and it's also it could by Cal could guys rather. Well, although, okay, I'm just I'm just like stepping over my work done because that is his identity. That's all I know have a four because he wasn't in the show called frontier any has the beard. He's an aquaman has their Cal Drago has a beard. Do you think he'll ever get acting work again? Yes, or no. Yes. Do you think he would he wasn't just a pretty face in a beard? No, okay. It's because you like him too much. I know he's like so down to earth to like, he's just like a very just like genuine person. You know, our guests likes Kelly Drago or her last guests, Michelle Sheila, she likes him too. I wonder if she thinks he's still hot I wonder if you think ask her we should pull the everyone should ask her. Okay. We should pull the audience and I'll ask kale to. We'll get a man and a woman and see, hey, do you guys still think keep saying Kelly Drago Jason momoa? Do you think Jason momoa? I can't wait to hear his response to that. You think she's hot or not? We know Emma would say, yes, let's make some bets right here. I think Michelle would say, yes. Okay. I agree with you. But I'll take no I'll bet you dollar a bet you dollar. This is on the air. Kale? What do you think? He's gonna say. I don't know because I think he was going to say, yes. He still weird. No. I'm gonna say financing. He'll say now. Okay. Okay. So we got two dollars on this thing. Okay. We will pull them. And we'll talk about it next week. All right. Okay. I'm gonna win this one. All right. What else that's all? I have. I'm really excited but the beard, Madonna. The moa. Yeah. What do you think he did with the his beard beer shavings? Selling them, they uneven. No gross. It didn't do that. I have a threshold of weirdest. That's my fresh. I will buy you put that put me over you can find me what do I do with this org? This is the worst president ever. This was not on the list you cal- Drago's beard. Oh my gosh. I will find it right now. Please don't I I know that you're joking too. Like, please don't no, no, I'm lis- coming soon. Please stick to my list. What this is this birthday list? Amazon birthday list. Yep. It makes it easier for everyone. Well, I know what I'm going to buy you. Is it on the list? No fuck that list. I wind up by what I want to buy you. How about that? Can you make sure you have healthcare for seat? No, you're gonna like it. This is giving me you've been giving meetings -iety throughout this whole episode. I don't think that's fair. And I know that I have coping skills that I could use except that like. Uh-huh. Cope cope this is kit gifts like this gifts. Like, I you don't you don't I don't think you understand the severity of people buy me gifts that are not on the list that I don't like. Like, I stopped being friends with people for bad camps. You will take my gift I will buy you a gift on your list, and I'll buy you my own gift. How about that? Is that a compromise? Yes. Okay. I will allow it. Okay. I'm gonna play a drop. It feels weird. This is so weird. You're listening to the date podcast hosted by Emma and Sorek. All right onto the dating topic. Yup. Emma is not focusing. My sister just sent me something perfect timing that she was like this. We should do this or your birthday. This is going to be like on an episode of how not to podcast play play abrupt drops play a clip from home at your mother and oddly like fade in I don't know. We'll figure it out God audience Tillis sorry. You guys is you guys are anxious like I'm anxious recording this right now, it's all about improving yourself as as as we're like broadcasters as a podcast, and so we should try different things. Like, I don't like to do missionary all the time. I like different positions, you know. So you have to change it up. So we're changing it up here. Since Emma is like a virgin, she doesn't know what that even means thought Michigan was actually a missionary that came. The church can people. Okay. Your your size. I hate you. You have like a halo around your is it beautiful glowing and whites clue illiterate on it. It has lots of glitter. Yes. Okay. All right. So let's talk about to hitting in two thousand seventeen two thousand seventeen two thousand what year we add those. We're in two thousand eighteen okay. Two thousand nineteen. Let's talk about that. So you guys were drinking. So if you're casually dating, here's some things you need to know. So let's say I've been I've been in a relationship for like ten years, and I'm just out just came out. Jeff just came out to the roundup, we do and we in. You're like, oh my gosh. What do I do? I'm single for the first time in ten years. Here's just a few things that you need to look out for. And so we have an article here that talks about a few things, but we have our own nuggets and tidbits and words of wisdom. Yeah. A lot of these like made me very angry. So be prepared. Okay. So the first one says apps before drinks. So in a recent study survey done by e harmony twenty seven percent of young adults reported to using dating apps, which is nearly triple the ten percent rate that was reported in two thousand thirteen so there's no shame in the app. Game. Dating apps are the way to find peeps. You heard me. Right. Well, I think I think it's it's a number one way because it's the. At this moment. Right. It's convenient. Is it the best way of doing of like finding someone? I don't know. So it is convenient though, I'm on a hiatus of dating apps right now. I took them all off I deleted all of them. Okay. Good for you. You do you wanna cookie? Oh crap. I forgot to get you your cooking. I was supposed to get a cookie Yomi like ten cookies. Well, if you had come over this past week. Thrones watching party, you could have had some game of thrones orios. Oh, boo. Okay. Next time. All right. That's what you keep saying. I know number two, and we may not go through this whole list because it's kind of actually I don't want to talk about number two. That's ridiculous. Number three. I don't know if it's gender roles, but I think. It's just saying that, you know, Emma. Yeah. You can text I Emma, you can open the door for me, Emma, you can pay for my first date, you can schedule my next date, Emma? You can you can grab my hand. I kissed me. I like Tex you and I'm like, hey is. Alright, I'm like brilliant is interested in this person or this guy like like, I kind of want to make the first move. You're like, no don't make the first move. And then I don't listen to you. And I still make the first move, and then it just blows up in my face. So I shouldn't have done it in the first place. So this one it was just not meant to be without dude. Dudes. Multiple. In like two weeks. And I was like, oh, it's okay. It's okay. You know, you tried because you know, you know, the book I'm reading to, you know, take chances that good. I'm reading here hearing. Oh, listening to so. Okay. Suggest book to somebody. Do you say ham reading this reading this book? Do you wanna do, you know, do you want to hear about it? But is the verbiage? I'm reading this book is that the same. If you're listening to it on audio. I don't think it is. You're not actually reading it. I think like it has to be true to the verb. A what you're doing? So I should say, hey, I'm listening to this book called this audio book because you yeah. Because it's an audio. Okay. Okay. Anyways, the point of that is take chances. It's okay to be vulnerable. You know? Yes. But if you're Ronald for too long just now that you might have to take a little setback, and like kind of reexamined things like the way that I have right now. Oh my gosh. And that's okay. That's okay. Oh, hell I'm really happy that I have lots of therapists encounter friends. That's good. Yeah. Are you going to therapy? No. I haven't found one. I like it. I think I'm gonna go back. I was thinking yesterday. I probably should there's one that was recommended that. I think I might go to we should go together. What's wrong with that? Like, it's my turn. It's my turn right now. Honestly, I mean, they're happy or counseling just make cry the whole time. So I mean, that's all it is Emma. Suckered me problems with my feelings. Like, I'm angry. I'm crying. I'm sad. I'm crying. I'm happy. I'm crying. I'm anxious. I'm crying. Yeah. This whole it is anyways. So I disagree with this one because it's like. Because like I'm I am big into gender roles. I I like, I are you are you a female. Yes. That they males. I mean, you could be there's gender. That's like a non binary. Right. You could be that. Yeah. You could be a male today. I would not judge if you said, hey, a male today or a male now identifies female, okay? Okay. Okay, anyways. So yeah. So because like for me like just because my narrative has been supported like it doesn't work out. If you make the first move, I just don't. So a lot of my expectations are like if I like you I'm gonna flirt with you. But until you alike, and then I'm expecting you to me. I know what you're okay. This is this is how you should not say something to somebody. But you know, what your problem is? What is my problem? Too much. We know too much. We know too much about. I think that even before this. I struggled with it. Oh, because you're an expert. I feel like the people that know the most like the right? I'm really good about telling you what to do you can take my own advice. So I say, you're smart. You're too smart for your own conduct. Needs to be done. Like, I'm pretty and I'm smart, but I'm not pretty am Deng. Let's watch the Kardashians. Who what or does she? Okay. Anyway. So so what do you mean? What do you mean about general? So you think that it should be still demand lease at least for the first few days and then like when like later on in their relationship as it evolves than I'm more than happy to start taking the lead more. Okay. So what is the general stood should stay the same? Maybe initially until you're comfortable. So so I guess newly single people out there. This article saying, it doesn't matter. But Emma, says it matters. I think it does. Yeah. Because for me, it's like then. So if you're not having those conversations with someone then the expectations are going to be there for the person, and they're not going to be reciprocated. And so like, I would rather just be like number seeking to like my the stereotypical rules for now. And then we can have that conversation. Okay. Yeah. All right. So the next one. Racket before you tap. You know, what I'm saying guys and girls. Yes. You carry a condom in your purse? Celebrate. Ever carried economy your first? What what what what are you saying? Loud ever ever have a kind of content. Sorry English in my first language understand that question, you have had condemed that was placed in your bag, but by some unknown person. Yes. But how did you know what? Like, the wind just like flu like was blowing. The wind was blowing. This condom like flew into my personnel. Like, oh my gosh. Was it like a tree con a tree condom Troncon Dmitri, the leaves were condoms and just blew into your bag can you visualize? So like, how do you know what the by the the, you know, which ones to buy? Do you know which wants to buy for yourself? Plenty. Yeah. So we both there's like different kinds of with liver. -cation the one that like makes it like hot. Yeah. There's Trojan there's other kinds of magnum for the big guys out there. There's like thin. So I am a big believer. That women do need to carry canned. We'll talk about combs right now. I do think women should carry condoms. I do because I think that. There's that misconception that like men will always have one and they won't. And so I think that as women like if we are going to be over going to be sexually active. We also need to be able to protect our our parts. Let's protect our dinas because CD's are real. They are on the rise. And like it's better to be safe than sorry. And so I prefer to like not having a city over hunting in a city. So I agree. Yeah. I agree. And here's the other thing too. Is like this before it's like one you start having sex with someone like, you don't know who that person has been with all this information. Interesting. Good. And so like, you just have to be mindful like if this person has slept with other people like where have those people that he slept with being Ben with and so like Joe? Respectful of your body and treated us like temple, blah, blah, blah, so yeah, protect that JJ everyone. Yeah. Burrell's in contraceptives, look different for everyone. And just because like again like. I hate when I'm told or when I heard from friends or delete personally that it's like, aren't you on birth control? And it's like, yes. And like so what like so what? Yeah. You can still wear a condom Unisys. Not that big. You'll be fine. How do you open? That condom is very slow sexy open now. Oh, he opens it get this. You know, I don't know. Getting the work. Good. I hope you choke on your own. Thank you. Much. It's like what it's like one of those like the airplane thing as you pull you pull like the thing blows up. Since when someone should create a condom opener new idea condom opener while how they're not that difficult to open. Do you open conned in like the lights in the dark because usually it happens in the dark? That's so weird to me. Like, I like do you put on the Phoenix seem like a lot of people I have sex arguments. Like why like what's the purpose of some people some people like to dark? Yeah. You can't see do you think? If it start you can't really see things. Yes. How do you like people? They don't they don't want to know who they're having sex with. Poached should it be having sex? Oh my gosh. So you open up the rapper and do you hand to to the gentleman? Be safe out there people. All right. Let's do you enroll at first. Oh my gosh. Or do you put it on the gentlemen? You don't are. You do. Blink once for. Yes. My eyes are like super they're like I have about allergies right now. So Emma up the condom wrapper. But she doesn't don't assume things about me. All we know. I'm going to I'm gathering the facts right now. I'm opens the rapper in the light. Right. It's a bright setting a spot. Like the light. You just bought a ring lights? Okay. Enough about that ho so fun. Number five is very important for the people who who are just getting out there. Don't assume anything don't assume that you're the only one he's dating having sex with kissing or anything unless there's like some consummate. Yes, something has been agreed upon and don't like lead around the Bush like very direct about in. Like are we dating exclusively? There you go dating someone else. Yeah. Asked for the question asked a question that you really want the answer to agree and be people. And I think because you're gonna worry if you don't know. Yes. And then you're going to ask your friend like ask Emma AM? Do you think she's this and the you're gonna ask me the same thing? And you said you should just go the source and say, hey, we exclusive or whatever, right? Okay. And then if the other person's like. I wanted to keep it casual then there you go. And then like if you're not okay with it. Then you need to. Figure out what you need to do. Next through go move on or deal with it. Okay. So you heard me play the clip earlier texting and phones well phones can can stress you out to when you're in a relationship because of Instagram and Facebook, you know, you might stock somebody might not. But if you do it just adds to that that stress so so people out there who are new today. New today, ding. Someone might look you up and don't be surprised if they say, oh, a selling Instagram account that you you like knitting or something don't be surprised. Okay. All right. So I think the last thing here is the addition to this real quick. I do have an addition to this. Okay. Is like yes, don't let your phone be a stressor. And so. You need to like know your boundaries and your limits for yourself. And so like, I know that sometimes like why I'd have to stop. I had to start researching people because I'm really good about finding information about people that I don't want to know for myself, and for my friend. So a lot of times, my friends are like can't find them on the internet and my sister, and I are like all right? Hold on give it was like ten minutes. And then we'll find them. It's so bad. And so like I had saw inside self control now. So I don't have to do it for my own people. But I will do it for my friends, and it'll be like, do you really want to know this because if you don't want to know this then you don't have to know this. Ignorance is bliss sometime. It is bliss my other things like if you are sort of like casualties hitting the person. I'm getting on my soapbox. Again, I'm not a fan of posting. I'm not a fan of people. Posting casual relationships on social media. Just don't do it. Because then you're going to have to delete all of that crap. And then you're gonna have your friends. Probably like, maybe I'm like, oh my gosh. Looking at those posted. And then you're Facebook's going to remind you like a year ago. Remember this picture, and you're gonna hate everything about everything. So just don't do it. Just on posted. So those are two added tips. Okay. So we went through this article. And there's there's a few more. But I have something that. So when I always knew when I was newly single. Knows her. But in a long long term, I I guess relationship like four years five years. When he just get out to start dating. You're gonna realize you're gonna meet a ton of people, and it's just going to be like fly by night people and your cell phone. We'll have people d- save the numbers. I do. And so I lost nine. I started going through my phone started leading people. Yeah. You might have to do that. If if you're like a pimp like Emma like me gets up there. Right. But that's going to happen. You're gonna meet people, and you may not remember who these people are. So that's going to happen. My last thing is. There's a lot of games out there on a games people playing games people play guys girls. People not serious people are serious. So that leads to my last point is there are games, and that leads to high highs and lows sometimes. Yeah. And so if you knew dating in two thousand nineteen. I think do you think they're going to be any other trends this year? Besides dating apps like what are some trends? You see in two thousand nineteen. None. Like, for example. I think that there's going to be a ton of Spencer Spencer has great information. So I think there's going to be a prevalence of more experts out there that you can kind of read read the information wants to videos. So I think dating previously you didn't really have all that stuff. I mean, you had books, but there's now more media that can that can help you through the dating experience like our podcasts or other back gas. Right. That's what I think more than. Yeah. I can see that. Because nobody wants to be single. Nobody wants to be booed up or with their person their lobster, Louis or lobster. And I think there's gonna be more apps out there because you have your big four, right? Your hitter dinner fumble coffee Fagel. Yeah. I think those are the big four, and then there's an additional two which is like e harmony for the for the people in there. Twilight yet, my case and the match dot com people that are serious, but also might but but I think you know, they call it in in business. There's four five businesses that have like like the market in the smaller ones, the long tail that come up like the one I for like, fitness like the one for like, you know, different different different verticals. So yeah, lots of out there. They're going to pop up, and it just gonna make it more confusing, and it did see a new app the other day. It was about you know, how you swipe left and right. Yeah. On a picture. It's going to be a video this time. Yeah. So I think you know, I still think Tinder and bumble and hinge those are all like the game changers. But I think everyone is going to imitate in trying to reinvent the wheel without really reinventing the wheel. And I think because we try to do that with our Bob longtime ago and people just didn't like video, but maybe. He eventually people will like video. But I think people just love to again, it goes back to texting and messaging because it's very convenient. You can send it during a meeting or work. You don't have to do some video chat. True. So those are what I think I think there's going to be more experts. So it's going to be easier to date I think, but then some people don't want to educate themselves. They just kind of want to navigate the dating waters like correllated having more experts to make it easier on dating I think, so Dr do you not think so? Or do you think like the noise? It's it's too much noise. Now, like a sort of becomes like too many chefs in the kitchen because we know that our friend, Brian and Kim, and then they'll Spencer, and then Michelle, gene, thrill experts. Right. Right. Right. And so that's the four that. I would like yeah. Listen to. Yeah. Then then they all have their own philosophy. So philosophies, I don't know all of those to a T, but might overlap or might conflict, and I guess where you're getting it. It might be Brian might see something. But Spencer might say something been or pin might say something totally different. So who do you come to you come to Emma in me at that? They. And I'll tell you the truth. I'll be like that's not working for you stub it. Yeah. So two thousand nineteen is I think more of the same as last year. Just more experts dating apps. And and I don't know what else is going to happen this year. But you know, our friends Spencer has a new book out, do, you know, anything about that? I know we have a little bit of information. But do you have more formation on it? I don't have anymore for major. It's called the cool guys guide to dating. I'm sorry, Spencer, butcher the. But it's something like that. But for men and dating because we all need help in dating. So if you guys in here's episode it was maybe two back. He talked about dating and tips and tricks, and what to do said the book is out and he's coming back. So we'll be able to talk about a little bit more in depth with this book. Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah. Yeah. This he has a lot of information. Like, I where we cap, and we can ask him the same thing about, you know, what is he think that people need to know in two thousand nine hundred dating. Yeah. So that's it. Yeah. One thing. One more thing. I have is that. No. I mean, trust your gut. It's what they said here. Yeah. If it feels it's right doesn't feel right then. Yeah. Trust and trust. Like, if it's like a little inkling like like trust, your intuition, nobody. But what is saying is like you're on your on a date, and you're talking and all of a sudden, he says something wrong, not wrong. But something that that's kind of your maybe a dealbreaker. Yep. Or maybe the feeling is wrong. You shook his hand or you give a hug, and it just didn't feel right or is. There's no spark. Maybe it was boring. The conversation was sucky. Maybe he talked about sex too, much or unwrapping condoms or Madonna or Jason momoa beard. I don't know if any women out there have ever had Orrick talk in length about opening a condom, please contact me on Instagram or Emma P. Thank you so much. Okay. What else? Do you have is that it have? Okay. So again, everyone out there have something and just wanna like share with people because you're my Instagram's about to blow up, and I don't care I'm going to give thrones trivia this weekend, and I'm super excited, I'm super pumped and my team name. I can finally reveal it is the wine walkers. We are the wine walkers Walker's for the wine walkers, are you? Yeah. I walk with wine and do you do that? You walked with one. Yeah. If I lose I won't be happy. You won't lose. You know, no one loses in life, right? As a matter of fact, a game when there's actual winners and losers times or not winners and losers. Then what's the reason? Playing a Rego's. Well, thanks for or anything. That was our show. And if you don't like this intro and tro music, please tell us that he says on the soundboard this week. Thank you. All right. And then I will slowly make sure I'm pressing by everyone. Thanks for listening to the date podcast. 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#039: Tips To Master Sales with One Head, Two Brains

The Win-Win Effect

1:16:17 hr | 1 year ago

#039: Tips To Master Sales with One Head, Two Brains

"Hello and welcome to the win win. Effect podcast with your host Chris. Ross this is the show for anyone that wants to drive productivity and maximize potential in any industry. Let's take a moment. Have you ever wondered about the psychology behind the persuasive marketing? Driving you to take action sometimes on products. You never thought people would buy full. That's just what makes this podcast. Stand out from the others. On these episodes crispell breakdown proven strategies that his companies use to respectably enroll prospective students into the correct programs. To achieve overall business success and fulfillment in life will get a rare centralized look into both sides of the bias seller relationships that. I'm sure anyone tuning in will receive massive value from to implement instantly there are huge quantities of information on material from companies. Just trying to sell products but not many giving you the right information on how to build companies from solid foundations focusing on customers actually winning as the outcome. The win win effect. Podcast is a character based code for human interaction and collaboration in business. Time is the only non renewable resource in life. So with this podcast the outcome is designed to bring you value to make it worth your time. Happy Monday everybody. Welcome to another episode of the women. Effect podcast. This is Chris. Ross I hope everyone is doing well and staying safe. We have a really exciting topic to cover today and of course we have. Our Co host was bays online to help us kind of dig real deep into this topic and I'm so excited about this topic but anyways before I get into it. West was going home and doing all right. I'm doing good. I'm I'm excited for today's topic is GonNa be fun and help everybody out. There's doing well as well and I know it's crazy time. So yeah you know. Do what you can control. And let's have a great call right right for sure you know. These are very bizarre times. And I know that you see a lot of the mims out there and all of the stuff on social media trying to make the most of this type of time. The people being isolated but we found himself self isolated for last for myself for seven years working from home. But still you know keeping your sanity you gotTa work on yourself taking that time. I mean there's a lot of people that are looking at this time and integrates going through it. Which is the ones that are really going to excel and make an impact with themselves or in business or whatever situation. The ones are looking at it with that perception of I need to grow from it and learn a different skill set may be adding on whatever already know but allow me to say hello to all the listeners real quick and I want to one especially the ones that are new to us. Welcome I really appreciate you guys taking the time and you know checking us out. Podcast blows my mind every week West. See How many new listeners we have subscribing to this show I mean. Have you looked at that late lately? Yeah yeah and I think absolute with people. It's nice to see because I think with people being at home man you know they're they're i. It's good to see that more people are actually trying to grow right trying to do better. And so it's a great thing to see and I'm proud of anybody really who's taken that time and effort to to help themselves and grow as a person for sure. I mean we even have a lot of people filling out the feedback form and I know that the that sometimes it's hard for people to write down personal things and we appreciate any type of feedback you give us on the show. We have a lot of exciting new episodes coming out with different topics different guests. We're going to have on the show as well son about this show is all about giving you enough knowledge on both sides at a buyer seller relationship. But it's also about a lot of self development and you trying to reflect on some of the things it maybes potentially held you back over the years and hitting those some different types of numbers when my results and I'm sure West will agree with this by results in a you know in sales are in business really skyrocketed when I started removing a lot of emotional blocks that I had that were preventing me from hitting a certain level of success. I was that. Tell them a little bit more in depth about how? That's helped you over the years. Yeah absolutely and I know for us. Well I've watched you do it over the over. The years is one. That's been an amazing thing to watch and see and it's the same thing for myself you know when I was as someone else in a position where I was had a ton of debt and I felt like I was just sinking and sinking and sinking and no usually at that time. You're like if only I had more of this or only had more of that and you realize at that point oil you realize after the fact that it's not because you need more of this or more of that you're not even even in a position to be able to acquire this in that to make your your your situation better and so when my perspective changed when I started to remove some of those blockages that were stopping me. That's when I was able to get to that next level. That's when I was able to help myself financially. It wasn't the other way around. I didn't get the finances and then help myself. I helped myself. I sort of viewing things differently so I absolutely agree with that. Love what you said. They're helping yourself first and that kind of goes into what we're going to talk about today. I mean as I mean I know a lot of people probably have seen. This may be on Youtube or maybe one of the platforms you know. I tunes on spotify iheartradio oven asked to go on different shows and be a guest in one thing that always keeps coming up whereas maybe it's just the way that I deliver. Some of the questions is emotional. Intelligence and specifically to three conversations that go on people's heads when they're having a conversation of working with the salesperson or working with the business whatever it is maybe just in your own relationship you have at home with your wife or your spouse better half or lack thereof in a certain type of situation but whatever it is the three conversations that go on and people know this makes an impact with people. Because I see what happens when I'm on these shows. I get so much feedback West because you had the point of view conversation. The emotional conversation egotistical conversation. And I think that's what led us in made a decision on this topic of digging a little deeper and getting to the corner route. A people's issues or the roadblocks maybe some things that are actually hurting them and preventing them from hitting a certain level of success. So the there's some people think and listeners. How many of you think that you only have one brain inside your skull you actually have to. You have the emotional side and then you have the logical side subconscious and conscious west. Why does people have so many issues with having both those brains talking to each other? It's and it's because because one is run by emotion that's why because one is run by emotion and logic the person's viewer perception of logic comes from how they feel so it's Kinda backwards a little bit so logic isn't really logic. In some cases. Logic is only what seems logical to you based off of your experiences which also come from your subconscious and so it's S. It's actually a bit crazy. But what what? The whole thing about getting better in this area comes down to awareness and self awareness and that's why we have so many people talking about self awareness especially in today's Today's world. Because the only way that you can start to help yourself is by being able to evaluate. What's really going on in your subconscious right and how that's influencing what you're doing consciously and so this is. I think this is an extremely important topic. And one that I think will enlighten a lot of people. Start to make them view why. It's so important for them to start getting more control over their own minds and thoughts and feelings start to and I know we've talked about this a lot in the past start to evaluate and reflect where they are and why they're feeling the way they're feeling because it all has to do with the reason why they don't connect well again as because one is completely run by experiences and emotions right as completely completely. It's up to that person's perceptions and what they do moving forward some of you that to mind you have in. Your head are constantly battling each other. I've seen this a lot when I'm working with a new client or a new. You know maybe it could be a business owner or whatnot. Does it really matter what capacity by see so much of self sabotage and is exhausting? Is it not if both are battling each other for others? May maybe it wouldn't be as bad. Because they have the emotional intelligence and understand there's two sides of your brain. I would say they probably have more of a cordial relationship. Your brains. I mean tell the listeners. A little bit more in depth. About what kind of open it up and dive into this a little bit more. Why do you feel that? One side of the brain talks to the other side more with their personalities. I hope that makes sense. Yeah I mean where because you know. Our personalities is shaped by our experiences. And while we've gone through and so the the way that for example because your subconscious controls the subconscious basically is. It's the middleman because you're unconscious is what stores all of your memories and experiences and your subconscious is go comes through polls that information as needed. So that's why sometimes you'll just be having a conversation also remember something that you never thought of for a long time you know for example like on our last call you know you were kind of reflecting back on the Tony Robbins experience right that you had and what that when that was pulled was because we're having a relevant conversation so the subconscious said how can I add to this conversation the value that I'm looking at this conversation so wet and pulled out that relevant story and that relevant memory from your unconscious. Excuse me so when people you know the reason why some people are so you know different personalities are had different communication really just comes back to one thing and that's because how aware are you of what's actually going on with you so it really just comes back to awareness because some some people. We are challenged themselves to be more aware and more honest with themselves about why. They're feeling the way that they're feeling. And take sense of responsibility. And some people don't and so how they're controlled by their own. Subconscious comes back to their conscious effort into being able to decipher. What's really going on in their own. Mind and how what they can do to control the next steps in and what they're going to do moving forward out that makes sense because it's this topic's a little tricky if you don't understand it well and so. I think there's going to be multiple ways. We're GONNA need to explain it in order to be able to get to that that 'cause we were Kinda deciding what topic we should lean into with this week. That tricky part is the reason why we embrace challenges and it goes a lot with our personalities and our standards in life and I think that's why you don't hear a lot of people going this much into detail with this particular topic so I hope this makes sense to all the listeners and you guys are going to follow was here and if you start we start losing you. Just start taking some notes because the understanding that while logical brain representatives conscious thoughts your ability to make decisions and the ability to understand how things work so think about that for a second on the other side you the motion brain represents your impulses your intuition your constant constant desire for food or more. You don't have more fun. Go outside kick a ball around each of your brains has its strengths and weaknesses. It's not about saying one side of your brain is smarter than the other side is no. There's a when you get them to work together. As a unit you can become powerful. And that's what I believe as you know as a seller we'll talk about two seals side of it in the buyer side but the buyers experienced. Think about this for a second. I'M GONNA try to stay with the topic and diving in and making more sense of what makes our methods very effective with people so you have someone signs up for a program. Those say for Instance Coaching Program. We get a lot of these and what they're looking for is to be able to take your business to the next level when I get them on a phone or what. I've seen you do wes what we tried to do. And what makes us get through to the corner root of the problem with them for them to see us a problem? I'm I'm nearing my questions to hit both sides of that brain and I'm doing it in a way where I'm trying to tap into getting them to start viewing me in viewing the situation. A little different helped me try to explain that a little bit better. Why does the why is that effective in do you see? Why would it be in the best interest of the buyer seller to have that approach? Rightness that's actually a great great question so again going back to the conscious and subconscious mind so the only way that you can control what happens to from a sub-conscious is by by conscious effort. Right so we hear a lot about for example. People will talk about you. Know the the book the secret right or that video that came out and says you know you're able to manifest anything that you want the reason what you can manifest anything that you want is because you're consciously putting things into your mind that are telling your subconscious to make you feel a certain way and to act a certain way and those ways are positive right because we can we can control both sides it can be either positive or extremely negative and depending on what you're putting in your mind so what you can control. I is what's the effort that you're putting in in order to start changing yourself and so with us when we're talking to our to our buyer what we're looking to get them to do first is to commit themselves to getting better. Because then they're going to start feeding their themselves in their subconscious a lot more positive things yes and within that process. What we're looking to do is get them to view us. As a source of positivity to help fuel them and their subconscious too and and get them to where they need to go and once they associate you with that positively and the associate you with the outcome that result or that good feeling that they want to keep feeding themselves at that point they can drop their guard and start building a much more trusting relationship with you and start to view you as the authorities so that then from there whatever recommendation you make for them. You can tell them. Hey Go skydiving tomorrow. And at the bottom. You're going to have a five million dollars in in a bag waiting for you and they'll probably believe it right as crazy as it sounds but that's because that's the type of relationship you built with them so then for you as the seller your ethical responsibility is to guide them to where they need to go and guide them in the right direction but at that point they view you as the source for them to be able to get to where they want to go so Nelson okay. Now what do I need to do from here and and you hear this all time Chris? So Chris what do I do from here? I have all this money. What do I do with it now by or you know? I need you know. What do you think I should do? What's your recommendation and that type of religious. We're trying to a lot of time. It takes a lot of time in that commitment level them understanding that I started about dim knowing that I will have their best interests at heart. They will feel that right and that will actually help someone with the logical part of the brain taught to the emotional side because the emotional brain is impulsive and it's inaccurate but tying into the largest justify with logic contrary to honor senator logical brain is. The one is occupying the passenger seat in hoping. You're going to make the right decision teaching people how to make the right. Well I'll put it this way helping. Your buyers make better financial decisions. We're only going to increase your value as a seller and it's going to give you more confidence. Yes was of course so that confidence is something that's going to help you break through and get to the core problem in that report level when they start viewing you as the expert. You don't need to tell them that you're the expert where I don't tell my buyers that I have all this experience in what I'm going to do with them. This isn't about me this is about them. I'M GONNA prove it through my value and it won't take long because that's my confidence level. Of course you have to look at check the attitude and report level the weight in my tonality away that I delivered. I delivered differently with every single buyer completely. I've seen you do this. Wes you deliver your calls. Don't our meetings are never the same? They're similar they're never the same and you're always. GonNa get to that one outcome. 'cause my outcome for them and I'll tell them. This is the outcome that I'm looking for with you. That's expectations at the beginning of the phone call. Is it not right? Why is sitting the expectations of a bigger outcome? Important with your buyers you need to plant the seed. Eat the plant the seed right from that moment for them to start because going back to what you said about. The Mo- tying the emotion to the logic. Yes setting the expectation starts to play off of the logical piece that they're looking for that what they think they need in their mind. So you set the expectation. Now they understand what's going to happen so first of all we fear what's unexpected we fear. What's not certain? But when I sent an expectation I'm making it more familiar making it more certain. And so you're dropping your fear of what it is so for example. A lot of people take the reactive approach so we talked about this. When we talked about objections they wait to get the objection and then try to handle it once. Said if I set the expectation what we're going to do when it comes to money. Now you can start to make it more familiar in your own mind so going back so you can. I'm consciously telling you this is what it's going to look like. We're going to talk about budgeting we're gonNA talk about money. We're GONNA talk about how you use it. We're talking about your relationship with it and I'm going to help you be able to get yourself point where you've you money in such a way that allows you to be successful and use it wisely versus fearing it. Now it's justifying all of this in your own mind but it's also feeding your emotional side because your emotional side was telling you I suck with money. I lose money. I fear money. I've never made it before in my life. And that's what your emotional side is telling you but now I'm going to give you the certainty that that's all going to change logically. It makes sense because I'm telling you it's going to help you reach your outcome emotionally. It's also feeding what you've been doubting for yourself all the time and just around that one expectation and how I framed it allowed me to be able to drop your guard completely and start viewing me then at the end the same after all of that. You're also them view me as a credible source and I've never once set to you. I'm a money master. I didn't I didn't need to. I'll just. I just fed what you needed to hear and feel in order for you start viewing you that way in view and understanding what you're going to moving forward exactly you touched on something really really important framing that framing the next phase of the call or the next phase of that journey with them. That's going to give them more. Claire t exactly what's going to happen. Sometimes I'll framed and I've I've seen a lot as well sometimes I'll frame it and I'll tell them how they're going to feel after I do it with them. Just because I'm doing it not to position myself higher. I'm GonNa do it because there's not too much. I haven't seen or heard from the people that I work with individually companies or corporations. Here's what's going to happen. You hit this where I when I go through this phase with you. You're going to tell me no and you're going to tell me this you're going I want you to. I want you to understand. It's okay to tell me no but I promise you you're not guests no way especially if they have issues with money in a viewing indifferently. Like you no longer have the ability of the power to make decisions on your own anymore. After you work with me until I'm able to start helping you discover some of the things that have held you back in. Here's the reason why you make poor decisions. Xyz I'm very specific because I'm writing down. What is what I see what. I'm observing from you and zero judgment there. That's the that's another side of it that you we need to talk about a little bit more is framing and creating the type of environment for them to feel safe and feel like they're not gonNa feel judged taught them in a little bit about that West. Yeah that's that's part of the expectations. Accom accomplish that right from the beginning when you're setting expectations for that relationship not even just for that call. You GotTa do. You always got set two types of expectations one for that call and one for the whole relationship and the outcome and it's important for them to realize that you are not someone there that is just going to judge them based off of their finances or their past experiences or what they have done or haven't done or what they have or don't have and you again. You do that through expectations so I'm going to tell you right from the beginning Chris. I'm not here to judge you. I know that you you know wherever you are right now in life understand that. I know that you're here because you're trying to get to a better outcome so my main focus with us to help you get your outcome. I don't care what you've done. I don't care what you have done or haven't done what you have or don't have my role here for you is to help you get where you want go and so. I need you to do moving forward and I'm GONNA set another expectation because I need to. I need to anchor that I need to play off of it again and so what I need to do now that we have this understanding as and I'm going to keep moving forward with what I'm talking about right. That's well done the way that you position that especially when understanding the feeling because of the only way I tell people sometimes west. The only way you're going to be able to accomplish your goals is to promote the emotional side of your brain and to disobey the orders coming in from the logical side. It's not an easy task. But that's my job with you. I'M GONNA help you make better decisions and have these both sides of your brains talking to each other. Because I'M GONNA the way I'm asking the questions. The logical brain is superior understand this in. You has more power over your decision making but here's a tip to all listeners. And if you don't know where to start Lebron questions of getting the start tapping into the emotional side is how do you feel about Xyz and make sure you frame that properly? The feeling questions is always the best route to take or the approach to take with people like this. Say something like. How do you feel about taking some time to focus on things that you can control? And then when they answer. Can you tell me expand on that a little bit more for me? What do you mean behind that? What I'm hearing you say is X Y Z. But here's the thing. How do you feel about looking at X. Y. Z? In this particular way? What type of results would you achieved? You think how would you feel about that? Did you see how M- able to completely remove it from them? And I'm going to the way that I'm asking the questions in my framework West. They're going to feel it now. Now their feelings are there. I hope that makes more sense than it gives the listeners. More of an idea on how easily it can be done but it needs to be done effortlessly for you to deliver it properly so one thing that I could probably see. People haven't questions on you know when it comes to that pieces. How much are you? Excuse me how much of it are you looking to make them feel negatively about certain things and possibly others than guys. That's a really good question like really good question. The negative in positive emotions that comes from your personalities and your past experiences the way social surroundings the way that you're arrays whatever it could be that's for the beliefs it say for instance hypothetically speaking they have a strong conviction about something worse. And I'm this where you have people. Sometimes that are very grew up very religious so they think money is something that's completely against the way that are raised in your beliefs and you're strong convictions. In the way of life how to remove something like that it's a start poking holes into the conviction and don't try to attack it head on you gotta start shedding some light on the real story. The story they have not me the story. They have attached to that conviction. Because that's where it comes from. You can't do this head on in an that's where a lot of sales people fail. They have all the connotation a call intention will. That's what sales people don't like is tension in a phone call. 'cause they don't know how to overcome it or maybe just face to face. I don't ever attack the situation head on with them because I'm trying to get them to understand. Maybe that's something that I shouldn't believe I shouldn't have a strong conviction at is holding me back. Chris. I really appreciate what you just did there. And I've literally had people tell me that now this helps me and that's where it goes to my objective when I get on a phone or me working with a person individually or a company corporation. I'm looking to see how I can make an impact. I'm not looking to see where I can make a sale. How can I make an impact with you? Only get impact is tying in the subconscious and conscious and helping them discover why they feel a certain way about Xyz. It could be money. Could be time. Could be whatever. That's why I don't get a lot of Jackson's you don't either no in other words you need to bargain with your buyer and help them believe it's imperative that they deal with this now and create the urgency that way they may not want to but you might convince them to have them share with you a little bit more information of start breaking through to the corn. Ruder problem. You've seen that and I'm sure you have. I love rocky movies now. That's growing up as a kid. I loved I was like literally loved rocky. I don't see sly stallone. As sly stallone I see him as rocky rocky four when he was fighting Russian Guy Rago what Ivan Drago Ivan Drago you towards the end of the move inside the fight when they were having and he hit him and he cut him. They realize he wasn't a machine. That's exactly what I'm talking about when you he's he's not a machine. I he's blading. He bleeds just like me. That's how I feel sometimes when you're getting someone that has a very strong conviction and they don't realize that's the problem slowly over time talking this and can you know communicating with your buyer about your view away that your your perception how you feel that. That's actually going to hurt them in the long run short term but whatever this will allow them to see the problem themselves and be forever grateful for you know that you took the time in how the knowledge and courage it takes a lot of courage to be able to expose with your buyers that listen. Do you see now why. I'm spending so much time with this with you. Why do you think that is a flip it back around why do you why do you feel that? I want to embraces challenge with you. Why do you feel that? Why and let them tell you. And that's and that's A. That's a huge point. I think that really needs to be addressed. Because you know you're creating the dynamic of where. I'm not here just to get you to this outcome. I'm here I'm here to help you. Yes I am. I'm willing to dive into the trenches with you. But what you're doing is you're shedding light on the fact that this thing whatever it is this problem or this area. This topic is going to hold you back from getting to where you WanNa go and so I guess just kind of expanding a little bit on that piece. So why is that part. Stolen porn it in the sales process. You're only it. It's important for a lot of over multiple of reasons now but it all comes back to your values as a salesperson. 'cause I don't like to myself as a salesperson I try to. I view myself so much more than that. Yeah I believe that every person on this planet is a sales person either your Salami on the reasons. Why if you're a kid reason why your parents shouldn't beat you punish you? You're selling them on the reason why you want to eat a certain particular food and not eat. This food could be if you're a teenager. You're selling yourself an idea where you wanted to go to college. What you WanNa do with your life. Do you see my point. Yeah that's how I view this and to go into little deeper in China shed some light on cotta tile this back in in. Why so important because you need to get them to understand? Yes I might make a commission or a might make some type of money a working with these problems with you. If you position yourself with my recommendations on this particular pro- program product or service or good. Yes absolutely but I tell my buyers at right from the beginning I try to give them so much more. Because that's my core value am. I'm not just trying to sell you. This program product or service or good or maybe selling a company on the methodology of the buyer seller relationship. The win win effect. No of course not I start what? I'm that's not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for something bigger because I'm trying to view you as a person to establish a relationship relationship with and to be lifelong now when they when they feel that wes is no longer about the product or service are good or the money amount. That's why you see so many of my the companies corporations. GimMe whatever I asked for. Because it's not about the money for me. It's not about money as did. That's where the subconscious minds believe something is true. So I'm now just not just helping them with their conscious mind in her subconscious mind their subconscious mind is going to believe it's true because they feel that now and whether these whether these thoughts have a positive impact on us are not think about that for a second the conscious mind will work to ensure those. Those beliefs are eliminated completely. Tell the listeners. A little bit about the conscious. Mind in how able to do that when he. Those beliefs are completely eliminated with the buyer. So and that goes back to a question. I also have for you because I'm thinking as you're talking about this. I'm kind of relating back to the sales person then and what may be something that they're thinking of things that they go thri number doing that because it does help get to the the real method into strategy behind how do effectively right absolute. Because here's the thing that we deal with the law so it's kind of my question for you step number one. It sounds like as from what we're talking about is create the create the safe environment create the type of relationship that allows you to be able to tell them. We're going to go into this. You know we're going to set the expectation that we are going to dive into. Maybe what's been holding you back some of the emotional baggage that you have obviously not going to say that way. But you know that's the expectation you're setting and so the next the next part of that as you know people obviously have their own emotional baggage you have their own experiences if things. I've held them back. We've there's some people who will be able to pinpoint why they feel a certain way. Yes much faster than others where some people would never have been able to be able to pinpoint where why they feel a certain way about certain areas and so my question from there is when you have someone that you know. There's in front of you know they feel a certain way. They have a certain relationship with with money. Or whatever the whatever it is whatever. The emotional baggage is that they have or certain they feel a certain way. What is what does that process. Look like when you know that they don't know where it comes from and can't identify what is some of that process. Look like to be able to get them to a point to where they understand where it stems from and why they feel the way they do before you start Kinda rewiring. I'm so excited to answer this question. I can help. You probably can see when talking. I got really excited. Because a lot of people don't know where their feelings come from an under can understand. Their feelings were both men and after his listeners. That are listening to this. And you're a man. There's a good chance that you were raised by generation. That told you that you cannot show your emotions to women okay and cry or whatever it is. It takes a lot of courage. It'd be vulnerable to get under. Did Not unreasonable. I'm going this route and explaining this and framing this way. Your buyer is going to be vulnerable. This is the time where they are. Exposed to be hurt misled. Yes so you need to approach the situation with a lot of lot of patience and a lot of grace you gotta understanding being very extremely empathetic of their feelings there now exposed and this is where I really shine and and I see me shining with not just the individual the company or corporation in seen you do this is because I'm extremely empathetic with that piece and I'm conscious of the fat of my recommendation might potentially ruin their life and that's why my responsibility I view I take it very seriously. Wes like my responsibility with you. It's it's important and it goes against everything I believe if I don't give you the right recommendation. So this is where active listening comes into play. I'm not just listening to what they're telling me wes. I'm listening to what they're not saying to me and I'm GonNa educate them and that's the next second piece of this. I'm educate them on some of the things that I have done. Over the years proven over the years to be able to get better with tying in the both sides of their brain and may helping them make better decisions. I hope that then out. The listeners really caught on to some of the things that I'm sharing because of a lot of people don't talk about these things west and that's why we're so excited to talk about this topic because it can be very tricky for people when you're dissecting and going into your brain and realized that why you feel a certain way about things. This is very difficult and it takes a lot of courage in a lot of people themselves everyday west. They look at themselves in a mirror and they say they're happy but when they're alone they're not happy because they drink do drugs. Whatever it is. It's all about being whole and balanced when I'm when I'm working on myself especially in my personal life over the past three months. I've had a really big deep dig deep and I've started doing daily routine in the mornings again and more religiously for myself. I'm extremely more impactful with my buyers on emotional intelligence. I because I'm more in tune with my own emotions. That's what you need to really communicate and understand a teaching them. It's okay to feel vulnerable and it's okay to suck it this up until now because what I'm going to do with you is. I'm going to train you on how to really win life. Are you ready. Then that's where the excitement comes from L. So when you're feeling this way I want you to send me an email. I want you to send me a text message. I want you to send this and I want you to. I want to understand and what you communicate with me how you felt when you realized you didn't do it whatever they done before so so that you're holding them accountable to it so on that note kind of bouncing off of that as well. So how much of the process like when you're so say we're having a conversation and you know obviously you know there's some baggage there that I have. How much is a process addressing? Then and how much of the process is giving them something for them to start working on for them to start identifying? I talk a lot about getting up to my level now and where they can make a better decision when you're talking about if you say hypothetically speaking you have that baggage that's there now. I'm not going to tell you about the baggage. I'm going to tell you about why the type of client or buyer I'm looking for for this particular product or service cannot have that baggage you know. It's not acceptable. The people that I recommend for this product or service do not have these problems. And here's the reasons why they don't have these. Pm coming indirectly within third person. I'm not talking about it directly to them. I'm talking about another client or I'm talking about the type or the attributes of the people that are really successful in life with this particular product or service or good. I'm doing that so they are able to see it with their emotional their emotional side. Isn't there now down. Going back to logic justify logic. That's how you're able to do it that way. I hope that gives sheds a little bit more light on the approach. You should take with an absolutely does and so how how much of that. Because we talked about empathy and the importance of empathy. So when is it good? How much should you be empathetic on and one should not be empathetic when it comes to your buyer? Being empathetic was when they're feeling vulnerable. That's when it's okay. No it's not okay when it's self sabotaging theirselves. They keep making a stupid decision or they keep going into because they have whatever of makes them feel comfortable as what they're going to run too so a lot of people are watching us right now. You might be watching this episode or listening to this episode. And you think it's really impactful and you're like. Oh my God I'm ready to start trying it out and then when it starts getting a little difficult you'll go back and Netflix and chill. Do Whatever the hell you doin' before I you know that's what I'm talking about. I'm GonNa Indebted when they I'm telling him in trying to work on this with them. Why stops feeling this way? Stop Making stupid decision. You're ruining your life. What are you talking about? Chris's only I mean I- cheeseburger whatever. It doesn't matter whatever decision they make when they keep making. That stupid decision is kind of like you know back in a day. They don't they. Don't do it anymore when I was a kid going through not take a ruler and slap it on your hand. Yeah that's what I'm doing. I'm holding accountable. I'm GonNa make them hold me accountable for not checking in in in Kolding Nemechek with that. So if you feel a certain way and I don't pick up on it but I would like for you to do. Mr and Mrs Prospect is share with me. Did I overlook that? Can you do that for me? Because sometimes I get caught up into what I need to do with you. I might overlook it. You need to hold me accountable. Can you do that for me see? I'm I'm helping them. What I'm trying to do was is trying to train them on how to work with me gets it and so. How much is that expectation? Because there's two things there. There's the expectations that you set in the standards that you have absolutely. How much does that play a role to kind of rewiring who they are to fit the mold that you're looking for them to be to go to that next level everybody's different you're supported from personality types so you have to gain more knowledge of understanding who you're talking to and what you can and cannot do with your buyer? Keep in mind that they're still vulnerable in the state. It doesn't take much time. Another probably someone who listeners right now are like man and me being able to implement this and my approach or line it was. My sales process is gonNA take a lot of time. It doesn't take more than five minutes if you do this correctly. I mean I when I get them to a certain level of working with me or on once I kind of have the foundation to be able to build on. I don't really have conversations real deep conversations with people anymore because at trust levels always there. But I'm still going to check in on it so it doesn't take a lot of time but it does take a lot of touch points in being consistent with my approach. There's not much I'm GONNA miss. Why because I'm taking notes. Okay talk a lot of people. Go Man Nash. Him that I should. I should communicated that with them. Maybe I missed that recording. Your meetings are very important. I record every meeting. Have for the last five years. That is the number one reason why I'm able to do it. I'm able to do. I listened to my calls again. I'm I'm hard on myself was you. I'm hardwood my buyers are companies or corporations. I'm extremely critical of myself. I listen to my calls and go man. I miss an opportunity. There doesn't mean I'm GonNa miss that opportunity ever again because the next time I get home on the phone west before we get going with today's session. I WanNa take the opportunity to say that I'm sorry to you for what what are you talking about? I Miss I was I had took some time and I was going through my notes and I prep myself for this meeting as I normally do. I put myself ten to fifteen minutes before the meetings of that make sure that I have the right notes available. The right recommendation for you for you to be successful steaks. I've let them know right from the beginning. I prepped myself will another thing. I was going through my notes before this meeting and I realized that I missed a huge opportunity with you before we begin. Can I take two to three minutes and if we go over I just want to let you know right now? Is it okay for you as time? Do you have an time today? Yeah Yeah Yeah okay. 'cause I know we got a lot to talk about but missed opportunity and then I go into it me. Doing that with them took me to another level of were poor now because now they realized this guy doesn't have the agenda of screwing me over or you know getting me time. He's taking extra time to make sure that he's touching when I when I usually do that. West. That has nothing to do with that. Company has nothing to do with them in the process. It has everything to do with them personally. So they're not just going to. I'm not going tell people my core values they're going to feel did I have their best interests at heart. Because I'm never going to recommend somebody for something that is not gonna be able to benefit from whatever I'm selling that's it. You GotTa Hold Yourself Accountable. Man You gotTa gain more knowledge ing in it comes from within. Bro Like you're listening to this in your new salesperson or older salesperson in like all it takes a lot of time and I don't really want to do this in your scumbag they're gonNA know right. That's why the ninety nine percent of sales people that ever get it next to me on a caller ever work. You know maybe on the same team. That's why I keep completely keep beating the shit out of you over and over and over because it's it's about us. Not What? I'm saying and how I'm doing and mechanics. The methods is just a your intention. Suck and your client that my intention is pure and people feel that do they. Not Absolutely. I think that's that's a critical point as critical point because if they feel your intention again it just drops her guard a bit more and it makes them start to trust you more. That's the whole point of it because obviously what we look to do. Is We look to build the relationship the type of relationship. I where you're going to view me as the authority of Humor is a critical source credible source and then view me as someone that you can absolutely trust with the vulnerable. You know journey that you're going on and the way that you're feeling right now so that's why I found that and especially with our approach. Why it's so much more effective is because we looked to build a relationship. I well how much? How much does that play a role or impact the even the customer lifetime value with that particular? Client looking at it with that type of approach. I need to explain my agenda and I need to see if we're going to have the same goals aligned. I don't do it with every single person wes. There's only a handful of people I spend more of my time of the ninety percent of the people that I work with. It comes from a ten percent of the of the coal lead base could be I spend more time with the People. That our minds are more impressionable. And they're ready to work on something and work and work on something in a bigger pitcher has a outcomes that I'm searching for. I explain them and see if they're able to want to go on this journey with me. Yeah as a fantastic voyage coolio song. I WANNA see if you're gonNA ride on ride in that caddy with me. I want to see if you want to go because it's going to suck going on. This journey together might be very difficult for you. I explained that as well. This is at times this is going to suck and also in time. You're not to understand why I'm recommending certain things for you to do a work on but you're it's okay did not understand. I don't want you to understand completely but by the end of this training by the end of this journey you're going to look back on this and go a ha now. I know why Chris was beating me up so hard. I literally want to marinate them and help them grow and that comes from believing in abundance as well West. That's another piece. I'm telling you do if you don't truly believe in abundance. You cannot do this. I want the best. I want them to succeed more than I do. In some of my buyers have had they not less now. I got people that I've enrolled into other programs product services. They've started their own companies and their corporations and they're doing extremely well and it all comes back from meet removing that one little thing that was holding them back and it was actually was self sabotage for themselves now. A lot of a lot of people are probably thinking real quick oneness. A lot of people are probably thinking. Well how the hell do you do that takes time? You gotta work on yourself right. That is so critical that is so critical because again you have to have the pure intentions like you said that is absolutely critical piece. And then yeah you have to become the person that can help the person yes so. It's the same thing as we always talk about. If you WANNA make a million dollars you got to become the kind of person that can make a million dollars right. It's all the same. If you'RE GONNA be able to help. Someone breaks through their emotional baggage. You have to take the time to breakthrough yours and understand at a deeper level that you can help somebody else. And so there's two sides of it right. There's a side where you know you're you're not you're not just helping them take baggage and turn it into something great. They have to do it for themselves. Yes so how much I guess. If we want to elaborate a little bit on that piece how much of it is them just taking ownership and doing it for themselves. It takes extreme ownership now but I put it on them. This is what coaching or could be coaching. It could be this journey. Could be whatever type of business. It's a partnership. Here's what I'm going to ask you to do and I don't care if you know why but here's why here's what you're GONNA do. Here's what I'm GonNa do for you. Collectively we worked together as a unit. We're GonNa meet me halfway if you're able to meet me halfway you're GonNa have essentially A- game changing type of opportunity for yourself maybe not with that particular product or service a good. You mentioned something real quick and I want to bring it up in order for you to make a million dollars. You got to have million dollar income skills by not just producing a million dollars. You WanNa take that million dollars worth of earnings chop it up. Saving multiply in different revenue streams for to make multiple a million dollars right. That's the key for for them to visualize that type of outcome for themselves is sometimes very difficult for them to see as very blurry but for all listeners out there think of something that one of your favorite memories. Can you visualize that memory? Yes because I was something important to you. But think about you hitting you. Living in a mansion can visualize that a lot of people. Can't this is what I'm talking about. I'm going to help them. Visualize that they can actually accomplish this if they're able to look at whatever situation they're in and whatever skills and the things that you already possess everyone can be very successful but it takes a lot of work takes on our hard work dedication takes a lot of courage takes a lot of ownership. You'RE GONNA take ownership. This is your life. And how much does your life like. I'm not captain. Save a closer to save a person. I am not that her roic right. If you're able to show me that you want it. I'm able to do whatever I WANNA do with you and I'll I'll give you everything that I know and all my skills all my believes all my my core values. Dedicate my time with you to help you succeed. And they feel that Bundy's side of me they know like Damn. This guy really wants me to see but I'm going to have to do this to meet him. That's why they raise themselves. That's how they're able to do it because I know that I'm near to help him right absolutely. And that's that's definitely a critical point. Is that intention piece in them? Feeling and so the the one thing that we absolutely no is that your subconscious. Mind it what you can do to control your subconscious is what you do consciously right what you're feeding your brain. What you're telling yourself what you're visualizing so because you mentioned something there about can you? Can you visualize yourself in a mansion? And if you can't that's the first step so if you elaborate a bit more on the kind of the importance of that piece and how to get someone to that level because I that's absolutely a critical point when it comes to that subconscious and conscious mind. I WANNA teach them. I need to teach them about why they want to live a certain way. Because it mansions not gonNa make sense for people that they don't Wanna live in a mansion. I'm just using that. As an example. What is a perfect life? Look like to you these are. This is part of the questioning when I'm having conversations with people what is how do you measure success. Why do you measure that way? Tell me a little bit more about that. What I'm hearing you say is you don't really view living in a mansion. You know as success you would you like to do is have a bus and go and try to see all the baseball stadiums one year and write a book about it. That's how that's what excites you because whatever excites me isn't going to cite you. It whatever it is for people I'm able to. I have an understanding a what they want to do with their life. When you're five years old wes. I assumed you had a goal in mind what you wanted to do when you grew up. Crackdown whatever that is. And I'm sure it changed from five to eight to eighteen to twenty correct but why do you feel changed because my experience has changed my value. Just okay I'm GonNa give them a different experience and they might not at the beginning of our relationship or regaining into the journey. They might not say themselves. I want to live this certain way less. I didn't know that I was going to be a little materialistic when I started making money ten years ago wearing a rolex wearing a AP watch or wearing Gucci socks at zero interest in West. Now but damn these watches are in kind of Nice in. These socks are really comfortable. Do you see how my experiences started changing? Do I need to have these things? No do I want to have these things in my life? Yes do I work hard? Yes do I pay these? You Know Invest I look is an investment because I look at it with. I pay with it with passive income. It's free to me. It was from passive income. Now it's one thing to speed loves money because you can generate enough of and you're able to multiply in two different revenue streams. You can make a crop ton of passive income of not doing a damn thing so to answer your question and going back to it. I don't WanNa get too far off a topic that's the conscious and the subconscious mind you see how to reframe it. Yeah a lot of you are listening to this and a lot of sales people and I need to bring this up your two brains are completely screwing you over and sales because you're getting on the phone or you're working with your buyers and you haven't even discovered two things about yourself. You might just have a good couple of techniques that's why techniques and methods don't work no longer working today's marketplace. It's about emotion. Feeling if you don't work on this and develop the skill set of you discovering more about yourself and removing all the bullshit is you've held back the hell chew back. You're going to do that to your buyer. You're going to fail your buyer. So if you're listening to this and you've been in a game thirty years and you may one hundred million dollars -gratulations. I'm happy for you. And then you start seeing people like and wes get to those certain types of numbers and you realize that you can't do this shit. No more waltz passing the torch you got up. You'd be adaptable to change. Now you have to. That's the most hustle people out there in the world. Today are the ones that are most adaptable to change until the subconscious mind agrees with whatever you're working on and understand it. A subconscious mind will resist it in every tim. You have to embrace it. Think about this for second as a salesperson of your if you have people say if you say to yourself and your subconscious mind says this yourself. It's okay if they think it over I. I have a long sales cycle. I don't make I don't like making many cold calls. If they're happy with their current situation I can't help them. Bullshit prospects that they think it over will eventually buy for me no. It's not okay to Confront Person Confronted buyer. Bring up this topic. Any lack of results is due to the economy or marketplace bullcrap. That's where you have people like us that everybody is running for the hills with his investments and stuff. That's I'm doubling down Bro. Right. I'm Dublin now. Because what goes up must come down now. Let's go. We'll go back up? Will it not look at the economy? I mean a lot of people don't understand the buyer cycle an economy cycle. You gotta Spanish. And they don't understand this stuff. Now that's what I'm educating people with is. I'm giving them a better way of looking at life. In general a lot of people think that they don't need a tie in motion the keep your personal life separate from business. That's where I failed in the past. You get emerged that shit together. Yeah now you're now. You're completely one hundred percent authentic. Talk to talk to lose a little bit more in depth about why that's important while it goes back to intentions. Yeah I mean. We talked about our intentions and whites pure. So if I'm afraid to tell you who I really am am I really do. I really have the best intentions or at least show you that. I have the best intentions as so. It's extremely thunder. Because that's what people are drawn to they're drawn to the real you and they and that's what will make them laugh. Cianci because some people will buy from you and I'm I'm GonNa say it this way but because they wanna be like you yes some people they'll they'll build rapport and trust with you because they want to be like you and so you need to be authentic because your your authentic self will allow you to have the best intentions and the purest intentions and allow you to build a true relationship with the person. And that's what goes back to. We're going back to we need to. We need to build a real relationship so that person can view me as a person that can help them. How do I build a real relationship with your fighting and tell you who I am if I'm not authentic with you and I don't end and that piece of it will is actually amunition for you to use in your relationship with that person or on your sales process? I can pull things from my own experiences that will help me relate. I can pull things from my experiences. That will help comfort someone or help. Someone raised their standards. Or whatever it is that I'm trying to do. I can always pull from WHO I am to give to that person. And that's why it's so critical. I'm going to help them. Rewrite their story. Rewriting People's stories than attached to whatever situation when I start talking to people and I realized that that negative story listen needs to be a positive story. Now that's their mind telling them that's hiring into subconscious and conscious mind is an eye right. Takes a lot of patience. So I'm asked this question real quick and then we can wrap up with this this topic because we're going to talk about this forever and we'll move onto the next and if you're listening to guys that if you want us to go a little bit deeper fill out the feedback forms of that way. Were able to know exactly what is. Mamie potentially held you back in here before I ask you to question. I'm going to help us with the listeners. Help him understand was a step questions. I usually ask buyers to help them understand or same thing with sales people ask yourself. Why aren't you more effective? What INSERT WHATEVER? We're talking about right. Then ask how much more effective can you be? And whatever you visualize you can accomplish. We expose out on a call so the third question is. What will it take for you to accomplish? That insert product service whatever. It is the last questions important. How long will take you to accomplish that? Do you think these four questions are very simple or are they with something. It's mind blowing. GotTa simple now. You've got to keep it simple like you guys are overcomplicating conversations with your buyers. Because you're trying to ask all these crazy ask questions are not gonNA work no question. I have for West and go with us and then we'll kind of lead with this. Why do you think wes did? It takes so much time and effort. Do this effectively learn this particular skill set. You got you got to remember your chain. You're rewiring who somebody is and if it took that person forty years to be who they are right now. How do you expect to make an impact with them in twenty minutes and same thing for yourself you've been you've been wired a certain way your entire life doesn't matter how old you are if it took that long for you to be who you are right now? How do you expect to Change Yourself? Twenty minutes can't and that's that's why that's why I'm talking about this. Why I ask you a question that you did and I've loved that way that you answer that question in a dive in not to talk over here. You touched on something really important. You can't change your life in twenty minutes you can change the way that are looking at life in twenty minutes. Yeah you're not gonNA see your. This is the accountability side. This is where you can listen about a car for a second when you rewiring a car to run a certain way cane run kinetic -CCOMPLISH the goal. Yeah but you're not gonNA be there for when they accomplish that goal. You're gotTA keep that in mind. You're there for up every once in a while until they're able to accomplish that goal. Listen it this is where a lot of people think. They need to spend so much time. Come on man. I now taught you a different way of looking at it. Now go do it right. I'm not there to change your life every day. How many times? I don't need to have this conversation with people more than once or twice. Maybe no to give a perfect example of that like I've had clients that have invested a lot of money with me and the Aba I worked with for a long time because they continue to invest money with me and two years down the line with working with this person where identifying and trying to rewire certain things that have been holding them back two years later. It didn't that that thing didn't stop them from going to that. Next step you gotta view as one step at a time exactly. What's IT GONNA take to get them to the next step? What's IT GONNA take them to the next call so that next outcome and one at a time until you get to where you WanNa be people ask me sometimes? What is your process? Well it depends on what they mean for me. Every process is different for people. I do have a main protocol for my assistance to drive and my team. My business to drive. That's just a protocol can a protocol be adaptable? Of course absolutely because I'm going to cultivate my approach with the buyer. What the person the company it can always be changed. You go as fast as slow as you need to. With this process. It doesn't matter to me what matters to me is. Is it going to be impactful for you to go at this peaks? That's something we could probably talk about next week figuring out what pace you should have. Because you never want to get people to feel like they're being dragged a system that's going to create a lot of tension in a lot attention by resistance. You want to get a little faster to them in that way. They're feeling like they're being led but not just lead feel like you're still walking with them yours going a little bit faster a lot of people. They view that they think that they're they problem west. I see a lot with people is that they're working with them individually and their own the same pace. They're going what that their pace of what they want. 'cause THEY WANNA piss off the buyer or they wanNA make the sale so bad. They're working at their pace. I got time for that. Shit you need to reach your unique rewire alway thinking because people that I work with West. Hit these type of numbers right. Either you're willing to get up to that type of level and get yourself ready for that pace. Stop eating cheeseburgers go workout? Whatever it is within your mind right now. You're able to do it okay. Now we have the same objective. We had the same goal in mind. And when aligned that part then I'm going to hold them accountable to it. It's really that simple. It's not over complicating what you're trying to work on but other than that. I think that we've and I hope this episode really helped you guys in all the listeners. Start showing you a different way of looking at even the situation in business within your own self. That's why I believe this podcast. In episodes of some of the things we talk about West. Meme so grateful that you're able to share your insights because they're so valuable and they make so much impact with the companies that corporations. I See. Wes Do now and in work with and you transform their results. Because it's all about personal connection that's all it is so take the time work on yourself but you're going to that goes back to my core value. Me Being Authentic was and what do I tell the people that I work with? Companies of corporations always make a dedication and make a promise to yourself and sometimes make a and do it publicly so that way it needs to stick to work on yourself become one percent better tomorrow than you were today and I don't care what whatever that is could be personal could be business but you need to get better every day do you. Not of course because a world evolving every second changes this is how many would it be more adaptable? And I'm not going to stop and I'm not going to accept anything less from the best and myself from that particular day. Yeah of course days room. Daisy you're not going to feel like you're going to do it. That's the difference. Need I say more? I think. That's it any data ended in y any data ends in why I focus on myself and I made that commitment to myself to my family. My you know my daughter my family back home. You know my businesses. There's a lot of people carrying on me wes. Now am I gonNa let all my emotional bullshit baggage ruin all the opportune and everything I built. No because as I have too much riding on it right so any day ends and why I'm GonNa work myself and it's going to suck. Some is going to be easier but the feeling of achievement and accomplishment afterwards when. I'm hitting the levels of what I want my life. I'm already projected it of already. Put it out in the universe. The universe knows what I want. And it's GonNa give it to me is his years proven when I'm willing to put forth all my effort into something I'm going to accomplish. I don't lose. I don't and is the worst thing that you can ever do to yourself is is beat yourself. That's where I have issues with. People or life is beating yourself. And that's where I view as soon as a seller to a buyer. Stop being your damn self man beating yourself. You're letting the win. I'm GonNa keep going on this topic. This is what I do this. I feel like I'm talking to myself now. I mean there's a thing we all have a limited time on this planet and we're all going to go and so you owe it to yourself to be the best that you can possibly be every single day. Get better every single day. Otherwise what's the point of it all and so that's all starts with it starts with commitment and the confidence to do it and as long as you have that and you have the will to win and not winning just what you know not in the traditional sense of winning but just even just winning your day just getting better that that day. It has a huge impact on your life. And if you can just focus at that because again going back to your conscious and subconscious. You can't control your sub conscious control your conscious and what you do will affect who you are and who you become a focus on what you can do. Focus on what you're taking and folks on who you're listening to you know. Focus on what you don't do and what you do and you'll see how you'll start to transform each and every until you at some point look back and say one was. I that person because I don't remember that happen. I've seen you do it over the air. I mean I've done it within myself my dedication on a Saturday to spend four hours on whatever. I'm working on my goals and my targets. That's where I'm measuring reassessment measuring reassess every day to all my results. Because I'm checking in with myself every day in a lot of different areas personal business you know sales could be you know how. I'm doing an entrepreneur world. Am I taking the time to grow through this key? Setup more connections for my major corporation that I own now my educational business am I having the right type of people. Am I going to build the right you know? Am I going to have the right? Customers umbrella had the right employs deal with those types of customers. That's how much I look into this. So is it going to take a lot of time and effort absolutely but this is what this is what I do is why we do it. And it never ends is Never GonNA end any effort everyday friend until I pushing up daisies right if you WanNa if you WANNA feel powerful get yourself and get your heartbeat up and feel your heart for a second. If your heart's still beating you still got a chance to live the life of your dreams in my going to achieve my dreams today. I'm not ready for it. I didn't discover that version of myself. Yet there's multifaceted layers to success. It's not just one size fits all and you what I mean. You think. All these people hit such a high level of success. They just happened over overnight in a vehicle. It doesn't happen with vehicles happens. What habits in small little details? Yeah and there's no endgame a lot of people look at it as they're supposed to be an end game. I'm doing this so I can get here. Doesn't work that way. That's why you see people who are worth billions and billions of dollars. Still are doing so much because they could stop whenever they wanted to. But it's not about there's no endgame that's just who they are and that's who will continue to be until they're no longer here and then the impact that they made while they're here made the impact and made is over time in having a confidence of ain't made impact and other areas of their life. Your goals will always change. But you need to have something to chase not target now Jason. I'm chasing myself in twenty years now. Easing myself in twenty years me thinking about myself in twenty years. Maybe I'll have a lot more Graham Iberian because it's already starting to turn but the life that I'm trying to visualize twenty years and one of chasing West is I want to have my daughter's grandchildren already. On affords list. That's what I'm chasing. But that money's not gonNA do anything for her unless I'm able to raise her properly and knowing how to deal with men deal with herself because this is a men's world up until now you're starting to see a lot of successful entrepreneur women. They're more driven than we are guys. If you're listening to this they're going to it. This is the decade for women in entrepreneurship. We're seeing two. I'M GONNA prove it to you either in twenty years when my daughter? But I'M GONNA prove it to you with the results. I'm telling you these girls they're Gonna. They're killing it killing. Do I believe there are more successful women? Sales people absolutely absolutely are more driven more stuff aware of their own emotions emotional intelligence. I'm telling you get on this train and develop more emotional intelligence and you will win in this decade. No I are the guys. Keep moving keep growing. Keep learning stay safe. Wash your hands next time. Thank you bye. Thank you for taking your time and listening to today's podcast of the win win effect in success. It's all about living a better quality of life so at the very least subscribe to the win win. Effect podcast so you don't miss the next episode. 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Manufacturing sector is increasingly a target for adversaries. [Research Saturday]

The CyberWire

22:26 min | 5 months ago

Manufacturing sector is increasingly a target for adversaries. [Research Saturday]

"Thanks to our title sponsor tra- for making research saturday possible. Hello everyone and welcome to the cyber wires research saturday. I'm dave bittner and this is our weekly conversation with researchers and analysts tracking down threats and vulnerabilities solving some of the heart problems of protecting ourselves in a rapidly evolving cyberspace. Thanks for joining us. Manufacturing in general is an interesting target adversaries and certainly ransomware being a big wine. That selena larson. She's a senior cyber threat. Analyst at dragos drago's recently released their first cyberthreat perspective on the manufacturing industry. And that's the research were discussing today and now a word from our sponsor rob securing modern business with cloud native network detection and response. The massive shift to remote work has turned the reality of work on. Its head with cloud and multi cloud adoption. 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Learn more at verizon enterprise dot com slash products slash security there is increasing interest from a variety of different adversaries targeting the sector and what we found is the cyber risk to the manufacturing sector is increasing You have cyber attacks that are impacting industrial processes Intrusions that are enabling sort of information gathering ip theft as well as new activity from ics targeting adversaries. Can you give us a little. Bit of a lay of the land in terms of when we're talking about manufacturing what's the spectrum of things that that term covers so that's a great question right so manufacturing on its own is a pretty large umbrella and For me it's person Personally very interesting. Because i when we think of show control systems in critical infrastructure a lot of us. I think of the lights right electricity. The lights are on driving our cars oil and gas that type of thing manufacturing is kind of the underpinning of all of the global supply chains and everything that we touch and interact with and work with etcetera has been touched in some way by manufacturing process so that can be anything from Food and beverage to pharmaceutical to the defense industry. Base for instance right. You have a lot of different types of manufacturing on lender sort of and it's oftentimes kind of difficult to be able to sort of classify the cyber a cyber risk or cyber threats to the manufacturing sector as a whole because there are a different sort of requirements in place on when it comes to cyber security or information security in these different these sort of different sub-sectors however as a whole you know a lot of the processes are very similar right. They it very much rely on just in time manufacturing. They rely on a process automation So the databases where information is stored Will interact with you. Know the enterprise side for keeping track of things like ingredients or you know. Supply chain management information required for fda regulation that type of thing so a lot of ways the processes and automation in place In manufacturing is across. The board very similar despite the industry's being very different so what makes them a target. What are the things that are attractive to the folks who are out there looking to to do them harm or penetrate. the defenses. ransomware is definitely something that is a very very heavily targeting manufacturing. We actually Threats twenty twenty. The number of publicly reported ransomware attacks on manufacturing entities has more than tripled compared to last year. And i do want to point out here. That's confirmed a times. We'll see on leak sites that there are companies that are named But unable to confirm that but this number is increasing. It's very interesting to ransomware adversaries. Because they're conducting the sort of big game hunting operations and have learned that up time especially when it comes to manufacturing a maintaining that sort of just in time processes on the that automation is very important for a manufacturing companies. And even if it doesn't necessarily impact the ot or ics side of the house you do have disruptions to potentially sales order fulfillment logistics These kinds of of very important sort of supply chain management applications that enable and sort of support the ot ics functions and so We're also seeing that. Ics adversaries are adopting this sort of ics. Ics specific mechanisms in their code where they are targeting industrial processes and are able to sort of Kill or otherwise stop. ics specific processes much like they do in more sort of side of the house so it is very interesting that we are seeing more ransom adversaries. Adopting this this no more targeted approach to industrial control systems and certainly manufacturing is part of that. Nellie in the report You'll have You're tracking five of the groups who are targeting manufacturing. Who's are who's our rogues gallery. Here so yeah. So we have five publicly reported groups. crise magnolia parasite night time But time is a arguably we consider them to be the most dangerous and most capable then time has targeted original equipment manufacturers for instance but also targeted electric in oil and gas companies. And what's unique about. This group is that actually has demonstrated the ability to develop malware specifically targeting ics processes So that's what triceps right it specifically targeted on a safety instrumented system and oiling gas facility. That's concerning because you know when you're talking from a manufacturing perspective you know stuxnet actually targeted uranian enrichment right like okay drink but you know this is this is the probably the most well known and they it targeted these. Plc's that were that. Were controlling the centrifuges using uranium enrichment. And so you know we we do have examples of adversaries being capable of interacting with and potentially disrupting manufacturing bite. What we've seen more recently. Is that you know. The safety instrumented system and crash override which was electric focused by. You know we we having observed you know either or crash override disrupting manufacturing operations. But it is possible to adversaries that are working. On developing ics specific malware might target manufacturing companies in the process of developing smaller. Even if they're not necessarily the ultimate target are they showing restraint in other words. There's a difference between Shutting down an assembly line and and affecting something that could possibly lead to loss of life is there is there any nuance there. There's certainly nuance. I would say that the activity that we are seeing when it comes to a manufacturing is largely focused on things like ransomware ip theft not necessarily targeting the equipment that could be a that is used for maintaining safe reliable healthy processes both for people and the environment I don't know if it's necessarily i. Don't wanna scribe you know goals or objectives or desires to adversaries right. But what we've seen so far you know. Based on the based on the threat data we're seeing adversaries that are interested in Potentially disrupting process for somewhere opportunities but also potentially targeting manufacturing for data theft reconnaissance largely. You know we've seen evidence of them. Targeting pharmaceutical companies for instance research and development organizations that are involved in covid krona virus vaccine. So these are kind of the big threats. I would say right now. Currently onto this sector and to be clear to you know there are very serious consequences to ransomware that is able to disrupt processes whether or not you know the the safety system is going to be impacted. We're not seeing that right but we are. Seeing people's lives disrupted in other ways. We've seen ransomware. 'cause layoffs in steel manufacturing for instance employees had to go home for for days and sometimes weeks as a result of ransomware that disrupted operations. So you know. They're losing their livelihoods because of this although we didn't specifically focus on this in our research either in manufacturing or So my research doing ransomware healthcare is another huge one. This is something. That is impacting people. In ways that we haven't necessarily seen before raid these adversaries coming at a very very vital critical infrastructure and causing disruptive effects. So there are a lot of consequences for this type of activity whether it's economic whether it's personal whether it's emotional frankly That that i think. Oftentimes we don't really think about these sort of domino like repercussions whether it's you know. Branson where for instance or ip theft these these types of things that have impacted the supply chain beyond just the target. Do we see organizations. Sort of You know firing shots across the bow of saying Demonstrating their capabilities. Saying this is. Did we could do this if we chose to. There's an awfully nice Factory you've got there be a shame if anything were to happen to it Not that i have observed. That isn't necessarily something That that we have is ability into got you now. The you talk about How so many manufacturing facilities. They're relying on you just in time processes Is that by. Its very nature. Does that does that make them a little more fragile than that. It's it's easy for things to sort of cascade through the system if one one particular system goes down. Oh yeah definitely and you know i. It's kind of funny to think about right. So a lot of times we'll think about disruption to the sort of just in time process or the process of nation on a production floor right the factory floor and the sort of robot arm getting a little bit broken. And then you know the like in that. I love lucy clip. Where you know. She's wearing on the chocolate live to defend south. All the chocolate into hersher is like the process is disrupted but be that you have for instance the trucks and the drivers that are relying on picking up and driving. Whatever the whatever it is that is being manufactured right so they go to the plant there waiting there. They have a set time that they're going to be getting their picking up. The shipments of whatever the textile or food or whatever is and then they're going to be driving it to their destination that has a set time of receipt and bad destination is going to be planning their own distribution or sales or their own manufacturing base off of this timetable that the driver operating on but if something is disrupted in the sort of early in that whole manufacturing line if the trucks can't get their deliveries on time then you're going to have a huge traffic jam trucks and then the so. It's not just going to be you know this individual that's impacted is going to be every person that is on shift that day that is going to have to you. Know have your destruction to their their timetables and the customers down. The line is going to be disrupted. So there's actually an interesting story that i like to cite earlier. This year there was a a software provider of Auction software for the wool industry in australia and new zealand. This it was. It was essentially a platform that was used for doing business for the farmers in textile. And and you know wolf vendors and Essentially they just use the software called tolman so they common suffered a ransomware attack and essentially disrupted one buying and selling across the entire continent of australia and throughout new zealand as well. And there's actually some local reports that said it essentially prevented forty four thousand bales of wool worth up to seventy million dollars from entering the marketplace. So this attack. February disrupted the auction process. Which in turn had impacts on the farmers themselves as well as the buyers and sellers of the wool but also you know the textile mills that are going to be receiving that role that are expecting to get it. You know work it into their own manufacturing you know making sweaters or whatnot and you know and that's in different countries whether that's china or italy or the other recipients of australian wool so you have this sort of domino effect that's like even in the it software that supports auctioning of this product. You have this. Ripple effect through industrial processes that are reliant on the manufacturing and distribution and farming and agriculture that surrounds this entire industry so one one disruption can have these sort of huge ripple effects. Yeah i suppose. I mean you know. Wool is interesting in itself. But imagine if it's something perishable like bananas tomatoes or something something that can't has a limited amount of time that it can sit around. We actually have seen that right. We've seen ransomware impact meet the a factor of of meat in new zealand apcoa. I believe it was also. That's another example of a ransomware attack. Kind of disrupting The manufacturing processes in certainly meet something very perishable. That's also something that you know people. Are you know. Go to the grocery store and expect to see it is not there you know it again has sort of human impacts granted. Meat isn't something that's you life or death but it is Yeah but i mean. I think that's an important point that's often overlooked as you point out. You know you go if you go to your local market and there's no meet their an emotional component to that where you think okay. What's what's going on here. Yeah there's that sort of frustration and it kind of from from the perspective of a company to write like if something impacts your your company or your brand on there's mistrust or not frustration with the company right so customers will will feel frustrated and so that's something also to sort take into consideration from an owner operator. Perspective is that you know we are protecting the integrity of our manufacturing but as well as our business and reputation and so you know when you're conducting these sort of risk analysis and we were talking about you know the the cyber risk to manufacturing you kind of include all of these additional factors and the the the sort of impacts to leg we kind of said earlier impacts across the board from economics to personal frustrations. So what are your recommendations. I mean in terms of that risk analysis in terms of a planning for these things that i mean. I don't know if it's fair to say there eventualities but You know it. it's the stories. Keep coming every day. What sort of things should should organizations be doing to better protect themselves so so. Conducting crown jewel analysis is very very important essentially having asset owners and operators identify. What are the crown jewels in my operations environment. And what are the consequences that could occur if they were compromised disrupted et cetera. So you know. Safety systems are very very important and that would be considered a crown jewel in in many cases crown jewel might be no. I'm very specific pharmaceutical component. Or something like that is like a trade secret that you need to protect so to kind of identify what these crowns are conducting the sort of crown will analysis and then establishing Your security operations to kind of build around that assessment Another thing that we often see in manufacturing specifically is very flat networks. You might see ot and it being on the same network for instance not having jump box Pretty weak firewall rules very flat. Networks certainly restricting access and conducting architecture reviews to sort of identify the assets connections in communications between it. Not and not just you know. We're talking Asset identification. That's something that. I think i said owners can can do a much better job of but we're not just talking about like okay this x. Number of h mayes. plc's etcetera but sports are open water restricted. What are they talking to. Who are they talking to What devices and communications are going. Outbound from t- what are going inbound Are your piece off. Where do we have you know is that you know talking to The required assets or is that something that you know has additional access to different Workstations in this environment Who has access to the workstations or the pc's the controllers etc so knowing not just what's on your network but who and what it's talking to and who and what has access to it is very very important and certainly to supply chain and identifying the sort of third party operators Identifying sort of reliance on on the software and services that are indirectly in your environment and again the connections to and from The type of access these this equipment or the people monitoring it has again is super important so we provided a bunch of defensive recommendations in the threat perspective that we strongly encourage folks to read Because it is. It is very difficult to kind of. Give a one-size-fits-all answer so we really did try to come up. With some that far across the board you got advice. Specifically for manufacturing and to sort of lower the cyber rusty organization are thanks to selena larson from drago's for joining us. The research is dragos. Cyberthreat perspective on the manufacturing industry. You can find more on their website. Thanks to extra hop for sponsoring our show. You can learn more at extra hop dot com slash cyber or connect with them on twitter or facebook. Our thanks to verizon for sponsoring our show. You can learn more at verizon enterprise dot com slash products slash security. The cyber wire research. Saturday is proudly produced in maryland out of the startup studios of data tribe with their co building. The next generation of cybersecurity teams and technologies are amazing. Cyber wire team is elliott peltzman. Peru prokosch stefan. Very kelsey bond. Tim no dr joe kerrigan. Carol -tario ben yellen vic valenki. Tina johnson bennett. Mo- chris russell. John patrick jennifer been rick. Howard heater kilby dave bittner. Thanks for listening.

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Bourdain Day

The Trip

03:02 min | 1 year ago

Bourdain Day

"You showed us some pictures of this guy. On your phone I think from instagram. Tell tell us who he is. well I'm competing a international jujitsu competition, tomorrow and whenever possible I like to research my potential opponents, who's in my bracket is generally three or four other competitors. And I find that this guy up and he's. You know he's like the bad Guy Schwarzenegger film. I mean his his legs. Are they built from a dinosaur parts I mean they are gigantic huge. He's absolutely ripped lifelong steelworker with tiny little NUB INS for ears that have been. BEATEN DOWN BY YEARS OF CAULIFLOWER He's a professional MNA instructor as I understand at age fifty. He went out and audition for the ultimate fighter He appears to be a black belt in just about every martial art except for Jujitsu, whereas lowly blue belt. like I am which is why I'm sadly facing him so really. It's like a rocky three or four with Ivan Drago. Similarities there hopefully the same outcome, but. Realistic about my chances, I mean he is super naturally. I'm choosing my words carefully here. Supernatural E, Jat Super Naturally jazz got ABS on his ABS. He's got veins where they don't occur on. Humans looks laboratory created. And a young frankly. Happy Bore Dane Day June twenty fifth the celebration of the day. He was born, not the day he died. That's the way to do it because this man had so much life. Even as this small bit of tape shows. Him and Michael and me in the recording booth a few years back, and this was just an outtake, a bit of leftover blast residue, but that's how it was with him with Tony. You didn't just hit record. You pointed the Mike and Ducked for cover. The thing I hear most from people is that they missed what he would be saying about these wild times we're living through. Same here. But I took enough smoke breaks with the man to know that he would have scoffed at us our preciousness. The thing he always supported fiercely intensely were those among us who made their own voice, heard particularly, if it had the lilt of anarchy to it, if it was shouting vile things that people in power, if it celebrated the humble or mock the vein. Make Your Voice do that in whatever work do. Bomb you're halfway to resurrection. That's it. That's the episode we'll be back with a new episode talking to a rock, drummer in Aragon Spain on Monday. This making thornburgh macaroni and hand, stupid, wistful smile on my face, wishing you a happy day in day.

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A Message Every Entrepreneur Needs to Hear Right Now

The GaryVee Audio Experience

07:24 min | Last week

A Message Every Entrepreneur Needs to Hear Right Now

"Hey everyone welcome back to the gary v audio experience. Today's episode is a segment from an interview. Gary did with no bulk on where he gives some crucial advice to all the entrepreneurs out there we hope you enjoy. This is gary v audio experience. What is one thing you think. A lot of entrepreneurs are leaders need to hear gut checks that they need to hear in order to be successful over the next decade. That if you're looking for outside validation based on your net worth your blue checkmark or how many followers you have your ultimately vulnerable for the game that we're actually playing which is do you enjoy your life and you need to really look at that because it really plays out. It is only sustainable for so long to play an optics game for other people to think you're successful. It is the number one thing entrepreneurs not here like who i referenced the salon. I know a lot of people you see. Some faces are close to my content. A reference a very obscure part of the cinematic classic rocky for and iraqi four. Which is the one bites. Drago the russian. The russian at the end talks about this thing. They fight rocky winns the crowd. You know and andropov grabs the mike and he goes. Look all of you in this rushing crowd you thought. It was russia bruce american. This ring i was fighting myself in here. Fuck you. And that's how i think about my business. I'm so appreciative of the loved the admiration but my inability to hear that is why i'm able to deal with the negative pushback than this that i'm that and it makes it very quiet for me and then i get to play my game. I think the biggest thing that people need to hear as you will always lose if you're doing for them always. It's just not sustainable in the end and i want people to be happier like it matters like your quality of like mental happiness matters and i think people think money closes the gap on it and i actually think much like social media. It exposes it. I think if you're unhappy money will expose it. make it more unhappy. They will not close the gap. And so doing it for yourself. Which is so awesome. I i assume a lot of this room and on video probably know the thing. I know which is holy crap businesses. My favorite hobby. Like i would much rather do a business meeting than golf. It's not even close. I would much rather have a business problem that i have to solve. Then go skiing or take a trip to vineyard. I just enjoy it literally. The only thing in my life that gives me the same kind of like feeling is not even going to jets game because that is actually escapism. That is like my church that like caring so much about something that in theory. You shouldn't care about actually helps. Gary worked for me. It's actually garage saling. This is real. This is how i know a very sick place of like loving my thing the only thing in the world that gets my chemicals going the same way every day does running. Businesses is waking up at six o'clock on a saturday with like a thirty three garage sale town wide garage sale. And it's still just business. It's finding something for forty cents. That i know is eight bucks or something. That's eight bucks. And so i knew that's what i knew that that's when i knew that That right i found my true love. And honestly i think for a lot of you in this room and on video debating. How much you. You may love business and you like me. Love being an entrepreneur. But you love the thing. You're doing because if you don't you having the humility to take a step backwards financially to reset and do something you like more is something that i'm trying to talk a lot about more because i've seen it. I've seen it ironically. Not because the person usually had enough humility to pull it off. It's because they were forced to cause shit went bad and they're like. Oh my god i wish i did his twelve years ago. This is so much more fun. I like this thing trying to find something you love. It really works and so i don't know i'm i'm i'm really hopeful that people i mean i'm blown away. By how status money follow. Count bleed check marks mercedes. Benzes rolexes like privately. I i don't think i because it was in my own cocoon for so long. I don't think i understood how much people need it outside. Affirmation to be abandoned for their emotional instabilities ren securities that they were parented with or things that nature. And and i come with such gratitude that i'd stumbled into that but then almost loved to be very frank. Almost a level of guilt that i didn't stumble into that and so grateful. It's like this very weird kissing cousin of like guilt gratitude. That makes me desperately wanna communicate it on the platform. That i have like like. I don't know how many very very very very wealthy people a shocking amount of them are not super pumped not super happy not limited. 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Episode 70: New Game Mode and Mini Campaign for A Song of Ice and Fire the Miniatures Game

On The Table Gaming

44:20 min | 1 year ago

Episode 70: New Game Mode and Mini Campaign for A Song of Ice and Fire the Miniatures Game

"The table podcast about board games card games and tabletop wargames. Welcome back to episode. Seventy of the giving podcast. I'm chase and today Josh and I are going to be talking about the newly released on an open field scenario and the first in battle mini campaign before we do that. Josh how you been holding up. I'm alive holding up. Is the term here right. Oh that's right. We're in our when our Connecticut Bunker? It's weird man. It's kind of especially like Frustrated for someone. Who REALLY LIKES TABLETOP? Like you know the social aspect of it that we just can't do any of that right now. Yeah I mean we're basically looking at the next while I mean I don't know via definitive date but I'm thinking like it's going to be a month or so until I play any tabletop games at least accolate. Yeah which is obviously like. That's the least of anybody concerns trivialize the situation here. No no no but at the same time it's also like especially like. Oh man like you know the one thing we like to do the most just can't can't pull it off. You really need and I think for a lot of people like this is a a social activity. It's also like a distraction. Been really disheartening to already here. People losing their jobs or or having things cut back and there's not You know a lot of a lot of tough stuff going on. And sometimes it's Nice in the midst of all of that just to take a breath and NYC distract for half an hour for an hour you know whatever the game and then come back to it phil built for especially like. I have a friend who owns a you know a board game store and they just you know he's like they're they're stuck like they can't. They can't have customers come in. Yeah So I don't know how he's GonNa Survive as business Which is really unfortunate. Because it's really cool space but I think what we're doing which has been helpful as like ordering board games from them or keeping their like sort of memberships open Just to make sure that those guys can kind of keep the lights on and will be around again. Once this all blows over. I think and that's exactly right and I think that the big takeaways here. Maybe it's even worth just reaching out your local gaming store on social media or give the actual physical storage call if you're in a location where stores are still open and you know ask even like. Hey what can I do to help you know? You might even consider buying gift cards if they do that. And then waiting cash when things are things are better. I think they're going to be how they're gonNA have a really hard time ahead. And and so you know if we can kind of make it a little easier for them without? Obviously you know if your financial situation is also drastically impacted than that's probably not something that you can do. And that's totally appropriate also But yeah it's it's it's one of those things where it's like you feel you feel especially bad for them. You know our old Jujitsu Jim I you know how do they? How do they stay open? And it's really it's definitely it's hard times all around and I think that's one of the it's been both positive and negative not to go like you know too much of this topic but up just seeing how communities have come together and You know you know. Go to the grocery store on front of Toilet Paper. And that can be a little discouraging. Sorta seems like you know dog. Eat Dog out there. But then you're seeing these other communities that are like really pulling together and supporting each other and so people have suggestions on ways that we can You know help support the community like please let us know. Shoot us a message on our facebook page We are trying to find ways to provide more entertainment and content for you guys We have in the works as we speak a tabletop. Simulator tournament that we're GonNa try and run and stream and we've been kind of experimenting more with tabletop similar kind of in general we. I mean I guess. That's that's a really awesome tool I think you know this is a good time to get into your painting and you can catch up on that especially for myself. You know having hours and hours and hours in the house You know maybe this is a good chance for me to kind of finally get some full units completed but no promises tabletop. Simulator is You know the the motto I would say is is pretty good. Obviously it's like learning the interfaces a little bit challenging. We first test game and it took a little while to get going but I mean it is one way that you can play with you know with the current situation. Yeah and in some ways. That's a in a way to stay connected with people and I know in the main a song of ice and fire discord. There is a sub channel. People can can use to to connect there and You know sometimes you just cool the voice with somebody and talk about the game. You love them exactly. Yeah I mean it's just it's good to have a little bit of a reprieve and some social contact where it's like you know you're not focusing on the crazy news every five minutes. It's like something kind of frivolous fine. And and that's a good way that just kind of like you know escape for a little while so we'll probably be checking in. This topic will probably again in future episodes. It seems like it's going to be a thing for a while. But let's shift gear and and you know let's think about the hobby side the fun side the the part that can be distracting the enjoyable part of a sung by some fire. We've had In response to this come on Games has actually released a bunch of stuff. They were working on and so people have stuff to do at home. But we've got you know a scenario on an open field which is kind of a cool really new one and then there's actually a mini campaign. I in battle up so excited so excited about the campaign. So let's let's let's easing on that. Then let's start with on an open field there so famously from Robert Bobby Robert Graefin talking about the dangers of the army. Beat the dangers of the doth Iraqi facing them The first thing I kind of chuckled. Got An open field and it doesn't have any restrictions on scenery placing so it could be somewhat more crowded than in your typical open field for say. Yeah well I mean granted. Both of these are Betas scenarios. So that's you know. Part of this is stress testing. It catching a little like Weird rules interactions. You know I mean the idea is like they throw it out to the community and then they get feedback like hey. This is working really well. This is working like crap. You know it's way easier to test with thousands of people so this is a good chance to kind of make your voice heard and especially if this becomes like a tournament scenario. You know making sure that it's balanced is really going to be helpful for everybody so it starts off with deployment where both sides you have a long range deployment. So you're you're getting up on the battlefield. And then there's three objective tokens across the middle short range from the edge. Very much similar to dance with dragons so you might be familiar with that deployment however that's kind of where the similarities changed. So you can pick up these tokens and the idea. Is You WanNa Rush Ford and build a gift these tokens and move them into your enemies deployment zone. So if you get the token picked up and brought them to the enemies deployment zone you get to victory points for each round that you're controlling objective while in that zone but there's a catch So as soon as you pick up the token you are now a target if your unit is killed while holding that token it gives away plus to victory points when destroyed so there's a little bit of a a risk reward. You gotTa Watch out and if you fail panic tests or destroyed you also can have your opponent gets to basically take your token and and assign it to one of their units. That's engage with them or they can place it within two inches unit trae. So you've got to be careful. Whatever the searcy whoops were. They stripped the ball from you because some people have been online saying this is this is this is like American football or something. I mean kind of right. It's like I wish I wish I if I want full plate football. Yes yes I'm yeah that's kind of what it's like right and you're trying to grab the ball and get it into the opponent's end zone so it's kind of fun but then it's happening on both sides right so you want to get it and then hang out in their area while they're trying to kill you the souls. Yeah well that works out and Solo. Units CAN'T CLAIM THE OBJECTIVE CAVALRY UNITS. Though interesting enough they can't perform free maneuvers From their their innate ability while claiming the objective so I think the wording on that a little little confusing that maybe some suggests might be to clean it up so they may not perform the free maneuver from the cavalry innate ability walk claiming the objectives think me while controlling the objective right so you can't. You can't run away because that would be ridiculously good. Tara target areas would just grab two of them and then run around in the backfield. While you're yeah I mean I guess it may be interesting because you could kind of like I mean if nobody picks up an objective. How does anybody win? I don't think there is a way I think this is kind of you. Remember the Old Feast for Crows. There was a strategy semi will play where they would just sit in their deployment. The anti play style. If I don't move forward I don't I don't lose. I think maybe some of the fear here is that the first unit that picks up the objective token like do. You WanNa just wait for your opponent to pick something up and just like hammer it would. Yeah Yeah so. There's a kind of a disincentive to start the game. But that'd be said if you have a way to perform an action while you have the token anytime a unit would perform an action. Ima replace that action with place. This unit subjective token on another friendly unit within short range. So you have a combo you could like run up grab it and then throw Inter backfield but you're not scoring points for that then you have to get it to them right so you WanNa like you WanNa like grab it with one and then like pitch it forward 'til like somebody else who like further ahead it's interesting. I mean like having to like slingshot it forward. I think with certain units. Look if you have bunker. Units like sworn shields or wardens like some of those really like Sturdy Units Lancaster guardsmen. Now that might be a great way to just kind of like have somebody fast grab it slower units getting into position and then just kind of throw it to them and then have them sort of just bunker up in right in. The opponents deployment is like blood bowl. Remember that yeah. I'm waiting to go for dropping some. Y'All the advanced raid leader. And he's jumping in on the side of the board and I just pitched over unit to him and let them run off with it. Or Oh yeah especially if you guys have like a line of like one of the raid leaders where you can like turn just like Congo line at like from just chuck it all the way down the love it. I'M GONNA definitely try that out of what's fun about this game mode is it's definitely something different and I think part of the fun coming up with like new styles of play This is definitely an unusual game mode There has been some criticism. Some people want games at their. You know there's like a hardcore continued that like wants the game to be like more realistic You know in the end were it's kind of limited by. We are moving trays. Around to represent things is like a battlefield simulator per se. I wonder what it'd be cool if they could do like almost like a king of the hill type of situation like I. I'm I'm thinking I completely off topic but just another idea for like a scenario would be like one central point that's like super important but could only be occupied by like. I don't know three units at a time and everyone has to fight over this one center area. I mean I think that can be kind of cool. Yeah I wonder if they are. I am not a game designer But I wonder if they're trying to keep game mosaic spread forces out. Who doesn't I'll just clump up in one area. Yep I guess the interesting thing there would be okay. How much do I commit to this center? Scrum and then how can I? How can I take advantage of everybody being in the center? Do I take a bunch of rain and it's like I think that would be another? You know maybe like you know. Sort of incentivize. Different types of units more ranged units were cavalry to get around the back and that kind of stuff but I. It's cool that they're pushing the push the envelope and looking for other ways to you know to play and they're saying there's going to be a few coming out every week so. I don't know how many there might be but it seems like that would be cool to have two three more scenarios available totally. The other thing is like you know these Games we have. We've been playing for a while and they're great I actually Kinda do prefer some of the newer ones dances. Dragons is a blast. Firearm blood is really interesting. And I think having some more in a rotation really switches up the way you might even approach list building because I tournaments or trying to play at all competitive. You're Kinda falling into just like I build my list for this style game or build my list for this style game and those are my kind of two options. What do you do when there's more styles of play than just to? Yeah I mean I it definitely Opens things up a little bit and then you have to make some harder choices right. You know So like right now I take basically you know one. You know one Army that has like a commander on the field for I forget what the name of the mode is the one where the commander can mark enemy units one whereas fire blood. Yeah fire blood so I think my still my favorite mode of all having a commander out there. And they're not and that's like and then for their. Obviously there's some some different options that sort of like my starting point for my Melissa Building for tournaments yet I just and I wonder if in a weird way this will actually if there's more scenarios kind of diverse styles of play will that actually have like a leveling effect on list building in that. You're you're really can't skew as hard necessarily because there might be some game would you just shut yourself out of? Oh Yeah told him I was like Oh i WanNa make an all giant spam list and it's like okay that already might not work on all scenarios but we'll send quite a few but it would certainly not be optimal Mississippi on this. I couldn't have picked up the objective so I'd have to entirely count on me killing you and just hope that I can win by not scoring so I guess like how would you play this like. I'm almost thinking that I would what I would try to do. Is Basically you know I would try to like just chill enough your stuff up front and like ignore the objectives at first select. Just grab them and take an easy point with somebody. Who's left behind? Yeah how do you avoid that with all game modes we had we had ron crasnick on the night's watch national champ? I was fired. Twenty nineteen and he was like yeah for most of my game modes. I like smashed. People's faces like is like it's really hard to score and win a scenario. If you're dead I would agree with that. Yeah we had a greg. Young did some like behind the scenes mask stuff. I'm not. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to share the but he was a running all this data from a table. Top T. O. And other things and and he was like man one thing I notice is like comparing different areas is that mythical has very kind of sometimes unusual scores in that. There's a lot of things getting killed. And it's like a very hyper aggressive Meta there. It seems that seems to really work for them. Well and I wonder if this too. Yeah I prefer just kill your opponent. 'cause then you know you have to be careful though because I definitely have also screwed myself a little bit by focusing so much on killing me up on it that I ignored the objectives and did let me get out of Control Seahawks to balance that. But excuse me I think the best thing you can do is kill your opponent's units by far just because the fewer activation they had the options they have and if you can activate them and you're doing more damage than they are. It's you know even if they start with like an early point lead. It's pretty ear. You know easy to pull that back when you're like an extra two three units out there and they're just kind of hanging onto a narrow lead when you play games like in general do you. Do you like games that have like comeback mechanics or I don't remember. I used to play a lot of starcraft sure. And if you got ahead in starcraft you get those little. Little advances in the beginning win a good engagement. You might be like always ahead and you've got like not mess up and so now you're playing catch up. They gotTA catch you. Don't mess up and I'll be I can kind of edit this win or or you know expanding my advantage and You know I've been playing little more video games now with the whole shelter in place over stuff going on. And here's the storm has a thing where like the team behind actually gets like you know Experience like bonuses Kinda evens them out. They're able to catch up in a weird way up. I don't know yeah specific example. Maybe but I don't like I like catch-up mechanics. That aren't forced like I. I never liked like Mario. Kart rubber banding like I'm running a perfect race but then like a blue shell catches me or like for no reason just faster than I am or that kind of like I like that you can do this free folk like every unit of yours that died got like plus one. Dono di per unit or something terrible idea. I think I think the way that it works. Like a comeback mechanic really should be like on the field and I think it's you know it's baked into the game that there's there's always variants right and so you could have a massive come from behind victory or you could be doing everything right and then let lose the game just because also in your dice. Goethe poop you know all bunch of ones that easily survived has died. I think that that's still always a factor And so that kind of that is sort of your like because it's not like chess right like chess like if I'm better than you. I'll bet you every single time right always but this game has at various where you know you outmaneuver me but if I roll better than you or play the right tackle card at the right time you know you don't have a counter to it. Then you know that's how I can sort of claim victory. I was wondering like in the old Beckoned I played a little bit of war machine. You'll get a win scenario or by assassinating the enemies caster and so like even if I was getting my butt kicked me like. Oh but wait like they have to control these objectives. I'm getting my butt kicked but like by having spread on these objectives it may be open themselves up for me to do like a Hail Mary. Assassination win but I feel like you can't let us to do that in this game mode because this one particular are just in in even a song always and fire. I feel like maybe commanders aren't necessarily designed to be They're designed often. It'd be like incumbent and doing things that were man's has his bubble right but of kind of an exception You know a Lotta guys that they WANNA be combat. And there's a lot of risk glit- one thing is I think Commander is like you know. They're not especially it's not like war hammer. Where if you have a cat right? Hop like all these crazy stats. It's really really hard to kill them. It's like it's just as easy to kill a commander in a unit as it is to kill any one model in that again. So they're definitely more expendable. Yeah totally. Yeah we were playing on tabletops simulator. I got I quit. Shocking hug are in your mountains men unit Joel. Bab chilled sursee. Worked OUT PRETTY GOOD SON OF A gun. She good round. No No. I don't like set up again. I that's why I kind of shy away from commanders that are on the battlefield most of the time because they are so vulnerable. I think that's one of the problems I have with breath right now is that they don't have an NCAA commander Just because it does exposure to that risk especially when you have cards that rely on your commander being the unit that gets targeted You know for like the bonuses and things like that. It's just so much so much worse when you have a car that just does stone cold nothing or very little because you know your commander was dead. Five turns ago that makes sense. I think Edward Stark is a prime example of that. It's the commander version that's in a unit is so rough. His car really go bad as soon as he's off the field so I mean it's cool that they're dropping out these scenarios. I'm really excited to see what other ones they have. But it wasn't just this scenario. They also released their first mini campaign. I in battle and it's a kind of like a little escalation campaign. Exactly is awesome is really really. I'm so pumped about having read through it. It's just like I can't wait to play this so this is going to be like an all day thing though. Yeah that's true you're playing four-game kind of fun to do like try and do it like that like a tournament like an escalation so right of the Bat. You'RE GONNA play. It's a start at thirty points. You pick to commanders and those commanders are going to use throughout the campaign so they can't be neutral unless you're chosen arms neutral so for all of you people throwing like roose. Bolton Tara or things like that no. The first embattled scenario stretches over four games we got game of THRONES DANCE WITH DRAGONS. Feast for Crows and firearm bloods at the pretty solid. Roster of game modes. Yeah those are all good ones and each game you play after the game you get five more points to spend on your army and you can remove one unit from your roster and attachments to switch out so you can You can let them pull out a unit of Say like a unit of wardens and then dropping stagnates with stagnate noble. And so you're taking out five and adding in ten plus five overall so you can kind of feel more flexibility Esscalation modes like. You're kind of stuck with what you have to pick up front right. So sometimes you take under the limit Initially that you have those extra points this allows you to pull one unit out to kind of counteract that that issue and I think with such with only four rounds. I guess that makes sense. It was a longer campaign it might be nice to have you like maybe have to make some more significant choices. Yeah well I do like that. There are sort of You know you're you're you're calling your commanders upfront. And you probably want to have a pretty good plan for what you WANNA take early on. But I think what's going to be particularly interesting is how your units improve over time. That really changes the calculus on. How effective a unit is or could be You know based on the experience gained over the course of the campaign so the idea is that in the battles themselves you get progress point so every time you Complete a certain objective like destroying enemy combat unit or passing three panic checks during a single game destroying a unit containing the enemy commander or ending around Unin engaged in the enemy's deployment zone which is an interesting one or gaining at least two victory points from objects in a single game. You gain a progress point now. If you're unit is destroyed it lose the progress point so you kind of have these variables. You want your units to last the game. If you have a particularly clean sweep of your opponent they might get no no points that game depending on no I mean I guess maybe they get completely wiped. They probably fail three panicked as so maybe they'll get well there is. There is a thing where the game each player. Regardless of what happened you get one point to any combat unit that did not earn any progress points in the game. Okay so everyone's GonNa at least something. So if you have a unit of raiders that just got pooped on as soon as the game started like they can still get a point in that case. I'm GonNa just take all raiders and we're GONNA get a one point and I'm just GonNa get hopefully something awesome because he abilities are pretty cool one hundred percent. Do you have any favorites on the list? I mean I guess I'm kind of a bit of a sucker. I always. I like just extra dice. Extra wounds extra movement. Extra to hit is like that kind of stuff. Sundering as an ability over two points stalwart. They're all awesome. They're all very very good. The only thing is you can only gain one instance each ability and no unit can have more than three total progress. Points worth of sort of improvements. So you can't buy me. You're not gonNA like everything. Yeah so by the last round though you'll have into the last round I think you get to have. It gives you an additional five points. You're playing a fifteen point game and you might have almost all your units with cool stuff you're gonNA have like. Oh God I mean like imagine if you had. I'm trying to think of like what is the absolute best scenario possible. You could probably get like with like vicious and then maybe You Know The plus one attacked I or like the Sner plus when they hit now. I guess I didn't see that hit. So then you're hanging although that's two points too so you probably couldn't do that. You'd have to do like that and something else. But you'd like to plaza and you've gotta get you gotTa pass three panic tests you gotta get in their opponents diplomate zone and sit there with an objective or something you know yet. It's one movement on an infantry. Trae you know these are all good stuff so it's pretty interesting and it's supposed to be fun. It's a little zany right. Like if you're going here and you're like a hardcore you're like this is im- balancing the core mechanics of the game and it's like well. Yeah zillion for everybody saw horses. I mean it's going to be so cool though because then you're going to have like your little pet unit that's like survived every campaign. Has Its all you stop and has like slade? All these dudes and it's GonNa be so sweet and then you'll have a whole bunch of like you know it's like your army is becoming like a veterans over time which is like. I think it's so fun. I guess the only question I would have is look at the end gets. The start loses a progress point. I assume it doesn't remove any ability that you you've one right exactly so it's got kind of a safety net in their odor. Yeah that's awesome. Yeah units keep their progress points throughout the entire campaign only losing them when spent so once you get your thing. You're you got it and you can scale this up three to four player campaigns. Although honestly you know it's convenient do through prepares you. Could do this on a bigger level minimum. Mind my minimal modifications make it work but then the real interesting part is the first embattled character units where it looks like. Avai JUST WENT. You know had a ton of fun and slapped together some like what if characters? Oh yeah are they likely to be like eight or nine? Point units Roughly guessing I think the. What is it the veterans already? Pretty expensive for night's watch so they get some some units. Don't get as many updates others. Probably because they get the senior for free is pretty good. Exactly she's start with these guys. Obviously you can't like dramatically like if you're talking about like I get sworn swords and you get sentinels. It's like okay or stagnates rather that's an eight point unit as opposed to five Ryo so of course if I point unit is gonNA help cheaper units. That have like a lot more abilities. I think those are more interesting than me. But they're all so the victory and talk. Yeah let's do you want to talk to the bastards voids okay. So they're gonNA move into five so they have a spiked mace eight. Six four hits a three plus four plus armor save and a six plus morale which is pretty good so there are spiked mace ability. If this attack targets in that has not acted this round the enemy becomes vulnerable vicious which I believe is still the same as normal spike spike bike. The macy's the same here but where it gets interesting. Grizzly renown enemies within shirt range of this unit. Suffer all morale roles so that's just a bubble of of anti morale prey on fear each time enemy engaged with this unit fails a panic attack. Panic test this unit may restore up to two wounds so this is like pretty good. I mean you're going to be having them fail. Panic tests and restoring wounds the suddenly becomes like a pretty survivable unit especially with the the morale. Yeah absolutely I mean. It's it's still a Cutthroat Unit plus replacement morale. So it's not gonNA walk into getting his charged by like a bunch of doth rocky screamers or Nights charging into him but man. This is going to be so versatile in a in a listed already depends on panicked tests and spreading fear. I don't know this is kind of a cool exciting unit. Otaly totally by the way. We're GONNA play this right like once a day. Just come over like nine. Am OF JOE and we'll just. We'll that's awesome. Craig Hall sentinels. That's the the Lancaster version but they got how ears. Yeah and that's a cool way to go with that. Instead of like you know guardsmen so profile eight four but instead of hitting on a four plus they hit an three-plus that's going to be damaging for like armor is the same Morales the same. So really they're gonNA be more offensive. They've got their order. Set for charge. You make your free attack against an enemy before they resolve their charge attack but now in addition to sundering they have the order taunt when an enemy within short ranges line of sight this unit and activates that enemy must make a morale row tests on a failure it must declare charge accident able to so you can basically like set up. People like forcing them to charge into you charge into this upper chart. Yeah and it's kind of Kind of funny. Because there's a lot I mean Sarah can help you modify people's morale so it's not going to be incredibly hard to make people fall into that trap. Think about it like I wonder if you could add assault salt veteran to the unit to. Yeah Oh gosh yeah. It's a free unit right. You started salt veteran in there. So you're paying like two points for a pretty awesome unit and then you can maybe protect. Let's say you're lined up with cross woman and they're trying to charge them. But then you activate your time they have to miss the Cross charging to you. Take your back. Then you activate them they they attack with a salt veteran bonuses like yeah obviously this is a little bit of like Christmas Dreamland but if if a Christmas streamlining do you put Sandra regain their with. Cut them down. Each time. Gaze fills a panicked test. They suffered wounds. You're going to probably see them to fail the the for the CIA and they come into the two morale in your. I don't know but this is. This is the fun part right and if anything like that happens even it's only once in the entire campaign that'd that'll be legendary totally especially we start getting some progression points on these guys like. Oh I love it. Yeah so fun. What about the the sworn swords? Sorry not this swords for Winter Phil. Yeah so there Speed of five. They have three plus so they're eight seven five four plus armor five plus morale which is also extremely good order last stand when this unit is destroyed this one free male attack using its highest attack. I value before being removed. So that's a huge one. They have wolf spite before rolling dice. This attack gained critical. Blo and Sundering if it does after. This attack has been completed unless there's only one remaining rank it suffers. D Three was so it's sort of like a improvement to their regular ability because it can't grants sundering in addition so it doesn't add the plus one to hit in addition to critical because they're already hit on a three plus. So that's I mean that's nasty. I didn't notice there are middle rank instead of eight six five. It's eight seven five. They have a little bit more of a tradition bump. Only I mean yeah I mean you're GONNA use. We'll spite every single time August and then order last stand one last. Yeah he's just like okay. Eight days with critical Blo and sundering. I'll throw on my wall. Spy Author is critical blows sundering. It doesn't matter if I'm taking wounds already dead. I do wonder though for this is there. I mean it's definitely a disincentive to try and kill this unit. So it's almost better to leave it on. Its last rank but you know having these things where you're going to be losing life like that make it tricky in a scenario where if your unit dies they lose a progress point. I don't think it'll matter. I feel like these guys look at their points pretty quick. They're going to get I. I would definitely be adding points to these guys. Because of their ability to like. You don't need to spend the progress points on like the sundering ability or the I mean maybe you can have plus one ahead but maybe allowed pulse when attacked i-instead man. It's you could use some like I mean. Think about it you could add for three points you could give them Marshall Training Order. You could hold A. That's an order to so maybe not but plus attacked by pulse when movement like. You could really cool stuff like that. But you know what's better than the wolves of winter fell crow killer and so they're free a free folk over he is like. Oh the raiders. A two good. Well what would it look? Like if raiders were insane so they have movement is increased by one so they got moving toward six now. They hit on a three plus four plus and their profile is eight seven four instead of six five three so they are throwing a ton of dice four-plus armor which is the highest armor value book. These guys are elite. Take that these guys are ready to rock. They've got Five plus morale instead of eight which is also amazing and then who needs gang up when you've got merciless. Cutting which gives you. Precision hits from rolls of six. Do Not Allow Defense saves ineffectual. That you can take things like you know the harm a commander who gives you like plus three dice or You know stiers got cards. The commander that will like Or weeper has cars. They'll give you vicious and additional dice. So precision is amazing and if targeting an enemy that has not activated this around this attack. Re-rule any attack dice like pretty good. Yeah yeah by slaughter each time this unit destroys an enemy rank it may restore d three wounds and outflank you can hold them off the battlefield. Instead of deploying the start of any round as activation deploy this unit fully within short range of a table. Flank edge so I guess when you have a three point unit and you're layering abilities onto an eight point equivalent. A you get a lot of abilities. You get a lot of abilities. I mean. This is like a full-on elite unit. And it's pretty. It's pretty sweet. I mean there's no way you don't WanNa take Like FAINTING MANEUVER HARM. Commander even torment you bring these guys in the battlefield and you drop attack this card that let's get a free charge or you get hit you trigger cars. Recharge you get these guys in his creek as you can so great. They're so fun ridiculous but I love it and then I feel bad. I know some online teasing but the marshalls of castle black. The night's watch that's an expensive unit already so they're not getting quite as much Jesse. Let's tell the folks at home. What if they won? So they're speed of five eight seven six on a three plus armor save at three plus morale five-plus order counterattack when this unit is attacked and Malay after tact is rolled for each block to hit the attackers automatic. It typical right. That's our standard ability. They have emboldened wall within short range of this unit. Other friendly units game plus went to morale test rolls that literally the only difference. They just got emboldened unit about you know so it's a pretty powerful unit to begin with exactly it's like yeah so the I mean. He feels like he got five points. Worth of stat bumps. Well this guy got like a point so I'm wondering Lira is that plus what has I'm like laughing? All the guys emboldened. I'm trying to think of like what what is the ripple effect of every night swat unit within short range getting plus one morale that might be more significant than I'm realizing totally and this is a really I mean. This is a good unit like regardless like their stat. Line is is really good like you know the three plus armor saved. There's still a speed five. They hit well. They hit you when you attack them like obviously this is like a fine powerful unity us so i. I don't think you're really getting shortchanged here. You're just not getting a crazy amount of abilities because you're starting with a much higher level unit. Yeah Oh my gosh. So and then we've got the the nights on Guardians. So you know maybe you WanNa take this one. Because I don't play breath in as much as you do and These are very cool. Donate their speed. You wish they were. The Netherlands feels like they hit on a three plus in its eighth across the board instead of seven right. So that's one thing Silla four-plus armor save boosts morale five-plus morale They have unwavering fury when this unit attacks for each of its destroyed ranks which still sucks select one of the falling bonuses critical critical Blo sundering or vicious. And then. Yeah it's all the same Staunch defender is added ability for each of its destroyed rank. This unions plus wanted to defend save rolls and ROLLS SUFFERS MINUS. One wounds from any failed panicked. So that's pretty good. I wait on their last rank they'd have to plus armor and crack overdose. Thundering visits and morale it'd be reduced by to the thing is this feels like an eight point unit instead of you know what I mean like. They're so bad for points and now it's like yeah that's actually playable now like that's that's much much better that probably I mean. Maybe this is a Beta test but then this will become like the actual stat line because it makes way March. Don't put it out there. People have been talking about that. I don't think that's going to happen. But that would be the dream right. Well I mean because otherwise stagnates. They're not gonNA. Nobody's GonNa play him unless it's for fun which I mean. That's that's also valid reason to take on but right now they're just not that good. I think the hardest part for them is that becomes like a stag night episode. But you know it's like I feel like they need that other thing. They need some attachment or other element to put in them. But then it's like you're adding onto the point value of the unit that sunk cost fallacy. You're just like I'm GONNA throw good money after bad money to like this unit work. It's like that's not a good or just take anything else. And then the final unit is Dro- goes vanguard. They're built up to three screamers so they still got movements of six. They hit on a three plus and instead of a seven five profile of an eight five profile their armor is four plus morale six plus plus one of their armor is still got the cavalry keywords. Then they've got screamers fury so while you control the the attack zone. They gained sundering and they have outflanks. He can bring them off the side of the table as their activation. Oh you missed the point. There they get sundering and they always roll. It's the highest attack develop. Oh that's pretty good so I mean what's interesting is it's Drago's vanguard you clearly. Want to run them with one of two commander choices. You have cow Drago because his tactics cards trigger off of that zone already exactly. Yeah I mean. Outflank is huge. These guys are always rolling eight. Nice when you control the combat zone. So they're going to be scary. Josh so I think this is a really cool scenario. I love it out if you guys have already jumped in even playing games. Maybe you're quarantined with family or friends. For whatever reason that you know live in the same place you've been able to get a bunch of these games and let us know how it's been going for you and I don't know what what facts and do you WanNa play. All these characters looks so good. Honestly they've all got that little fun element and I don't think you'll have a bad time going any direction. I think escalation matches or financial way throwing experience points in like sort of like these chase scenarios. Where like maybe I'm like going to throw isn't just to get some more progress points on a unit really juice them up for the next one. I think that could be like a really. It'll be a fun afternoon or maybe even a couple of days But yeah it's it's so. It's such a great addition to the game to have like a formal well-thought-out campaign structure guys yeah and then let's each do have a few questions though that maybe could be clarified. I get. It's like an designs in the early design development stages You can switch out some units and attachments but it says you add you build your thirty pointless and then you get the free character unit. Can you put attachments in there at start? Then because you already made your list then you add the special character unit gifts or do you do it in late around some stuff. You A few points of clarification. I think but this looks definitely promising and I'm excited that come on game releasing this stuff for people in this time. Yeah it's interesting because people can pick at it and like you know point out certain things but I think it's still like I think they're so much ground to cover with this sort of stuff. I think they introduced the whole idea of character units with Edwards Honor Guard. But we haven't really seen too much more of that lately. I think this is a really cool way to kind of give you you know just a little bit more like use out of your models like you know. We got like The followers of bone and the bone Lord's chosen which are the same models. Technically like I mean you can do that with literally any unit. There's no reason why there couldn't be like nights on guardians that are like a point more or like you know crow chillers that are like a couple of points more in like really kind of mess with that a little bit more. I think it's It's cool space to explore for sure absolutely late units so now the real challenges that I'm getting a ton of painting done I've got my skin. Changes all worked up but the result is going to be like not really be of the play this in person for a while I kind of. It's kind of like a mixed blessing here. I mean that is that is the downside for sure but I think what would be nice. It's like everyone will have so much time to sit around and theory craft that maybe you'll see some brand new looks coming out of my are probably not. I kind of covers it for today. 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TRR489 02 26 20 - Ash Wednesday - One Hit Wonders

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TRR489 02 26 20 - Ash Wednesday - One Hit Wonders

"Hey they're Ralph garment here and thanks so much checking out this free edition of the row report. If you like what you hear. Do me a favor. Subscribe to the Ralph report so we can put some fun in your ears five days a week and you can listen for as little as three dollars a month so subscribed today so you know miss out on any of the fun go to Patriotdepot dot com slash. The Roth report and sign up. Welcome to the row. Report with Ralph Garman. Well hello there boys and girls welcome to the Ralph Report on this Hump Day. It's Wednesday February. Twenty six so happy to have you joining us today. Happy Ash Wednesday. Everybody Hope Y'all got your ashes onto where you get across the head right. Yeah Yeah Yeah gotta get blessed time and seen any insane. Yash this morning. I haven't seen anything this morning. Usually see if you take the kid to school and stuff hanging around a bunch of heathens out. That's why too busy worshiping she's Middle. True off you get an S. under. Get a bottle of wine dumped on my forehead for the god of wine and slaughter. Yeah we're all but she's moon this joint. I'm a fallen away Catholic. I don't get me no ashes. No more we raised Catholic though I guess methodist would be what was raised methodist. We L. What your church was. It was a meritless. Chur gathered if you're a methodist. It's always like I guess I was methodist. Why is it I got a very? It's a very lax sect of Christianity. Very light yes. It's very Christian lays Biwott. Eighty is no well. I was born a Catholic. I guess you're not born anything. No you're you're taught to be. Raised was baptized and confirmed As a As an Irish Catholic and so I had the full treatment until I was thirteen and I said to my parents. I don't buy any of this is this is this something. I'm going to keep doing this. Allusion they're like all right mouthy kid. Did they stay religious? Hola wants I walked away. The interestingly enough my parents both said I think the kids got a point and they stopped going to church. So that's where my parents got more released. My mom got more religious as I got older. When I was a kid there was we would go on eastern that would be it now We were full blown think. My parents tried really hard to keep me in the face and then once I sort of cut loose. They're like what's the point anymore. Susumu also getting really cheesed off. Because they came up in a time when there was a lot of change in the Catholic Church. W when they were saying well maybe he wasn't really born in a major. Maybe was a cave where I know. They kept changing their stories. I remember my Dad. Saying is it is it. Is it this way or not? Because the pope started change things and they would send out these announcement saying well. You can eat meat on Friday. Yeah it's not a big deal anymore when you're rules don't keep changing the rules mother. Now ruinous yes. Yeah they're now opinions or guidelines so. I think that also caused my parents to lose a little faith so no but I feel bad because today's Ash Wednesday and Steve Ashton isn't here have been so appropriate have ash Wednesday turf. The assholes holes with Ashton little lonely without him is no longer with us well. He's still with us. He's alive just not here in the bat cave. Now it's just the two of US. I am your old podcast Powell Ralph garment had sitting here in the bat cave with me in this lonely bad cave. Just the two of us is the one and only vice house. Mr Eddie Pence. Hey everybody did you forget I was thinking thinking of something? I didn't do it the audience that loves you and again if you are the religious person happy Ash Wednesday. This is the kickoff of lent. This is when you deprive yourself up stuff that you love to show God that you mean it. I guess I forget exactly donate food. Because that's what God would want mets right so you give up something you love if zone. My case would be either masturbation yes for alcohol cigarettes or cigarettes or Cussing or something. Something you really. It's fun that you enjoy doing. Usually give that for forty days longtime and then you roll around and you could sell appraiser reason. It's forty days is because they were in the desert for forty days or something like that that is an excellent has something to do with that Edwin that I simply don't have with the Catholic. It's a long time ago. I have forgotten most of the dogma that was pushed into my brain people. Don't expect anything from methodists. That's right But I thought since it is Ash Wednesday even though we're not religious except of course for she's molehill she's married is right to give him. Thanks and praise off the one thing. I did like about Catholicism And still do to. This Day is their patron saint system. The there are a lot of saints. Yes in the Catholic Church and they will give it to almost anybody for almost any reason. They say you have to perform a miracle or three three Mary and then they take a vote or something and then they then you get to know strict rules for miracles at sort of guidelines opinion. Oh look at taxes of. I'm out in Penn. Bom Paths Ain't But they also let you become the patron saint of something and because there's so many saints yeah. Some of the things that patron saints are patrons of our in our ridiculous insanely ridiculous for the gets harder and harder to make someone a patron saint of something because you run out arise stuff. You rather goes all the good stuff. That's all gone immediately. So the later saints get the Shittier things to be a Patriot but I always loved going through the list to see who was the patron saint of what so. I thought we'd have some fun with that on today's show we could play a little bit of the army game. Show okay. We're GONNA play the army game show kids and here's if you don't know if you're new to the show here's how it works. I will ask Eddie Pence a series of ten questions if he can get more than half of them. Correct five or better then. A lucky member of the audience wins a fabulous a prize and some cash as well cash include. So why Eddie plays on the behalf of a member of the army and if he wins you win. It's just that simple now. We've also changed the rules as a hair to if he gets blanked if he comes up completely bone dry on all the answers you also get the prize because we just felt bad for people who are getting just screwed over by Eddie coming up short so those are the two ways you can win. He gets none correctness or he gets five or more correct. That's how it works. And then you get some fabulous cash and prizes cash including So it's time to play the game show. It's time for America's fastest since a-shares James Show with the host and the contestant that can win you list variety. Thanks so much John Cooperman. Welcome everyone to the army game show. I am your host. Ralph Garman today Eddie. Pence will be trying to identify the things that the saints are patrons out I will give you the saint and then I will give you two choices okay. You don't have to know what other reason saint pulling the blink rule I will give you the Saint Okay and then I will give you two options as to what that saint is the patron saint of if you are correct you will hear this if you are incorrect. You'll hear this. You get five or more correct answers than lucky. Member of the army will be winning some fabulous cash prizes included. And here's how they win. They have to send in their name and mailing address to Eddie Pants. Eddie at the Ralph Report Dot Com put in the subject line. I want free stuff and then Eddie picks your name out of a hopper and that's who we're playing for. So who were you playing for today? I am playing for Jerry Morales. Jerry Morales Jerry. Morales Jerry Morales. Where's he hailed from Tustin? California not nearby Tustin. California Jerry Morales. I believe Morales is a Hispanic last night. It's likely that he might be religious. Fellow or have been raised in this in a religious may know this better than being frustrated listening. You may know the answer is better than you do all right. What can Jerry Morales win? Well is one way to find out. Ralph tells what he could win. Why thank you Jerry Morales? If he wins fabulous grab bag prizes including a shot glass army notepad and army air freshener back to you. Why thank you so much? I love that guy. He's a talented happy. All the time. All right these are ten seats or saints depending on which coughing you've had this morning. Ken Saints I Will Give. You two options as to what they are the patron saint of and then you simply need to Scott understood. I think we've got everything covered. Thanks all right here we go. The first saint is Saint Genelius Saint Janie ceus. Okay is Saint John the patron saint of dysentery or of actors actors or dysentery. Which one is the is? The patron saint saint patron of was dysentery. He is the patron saint of actor. Saint polycarp of Samana is the patron saint of dysentery. So these are all actually. I'm sure everyone okay. All these choices I give you. Someone is a patron saint of them. Not One that we got shot so I'm just throwing darts in dark room rate pretty much. Yes so that's one down one wrong okay. So far okay Saint Isidor Saint Adore is saint is adored the patron saint of greeting card manufacturers or the Internet Shit. The rich one is Saint Isidor. The patron saint is it. To Saint is a door once again those choices. The greeting card manufacturing really main patron saint both of those and these are both represented by saints in the Catholic Church. The Internet or greeting card manufacturers Greencard Meta factors. I'm sorry wow wow too to learn that. Saint Valentine is the patrons really eating card Manufa. I did know that make sense. Yes by the door is the patron saint of the Internet. Pope John Paul. The second appointed him to that physicians after the Internet became a thing and I guess the pope figured somebody better be watching over it. Because it's a bad place and real bad place. I don't think saying the door is doing his job. Quite frank terrible job back right. So let's take a real quick look at the score to over to over eight and we with over ten missing eight more. That's true. Yeah if you blank the rest length the rest. Jerry is a big winner okay. Number three Saint Drago Saint Drago D. R. G. O. Either Drago or Drago Saint Drug. Who is he? The patron saint of unattractive people. That's just or disappointing children. He's the patron saint of unattractive people or disappointing children unattractive. People that's correct Eddie. Pads Sandra go is the patron saint of unattractive people shit. Let's try to get that wrong. Lot Old air it. Claude old is the patron saint of disappointing. Yes C. L. O. T. I L. Dis a clot clot tat toby. I don't know it's weird. Because you think unattractive people that's more of a subjective thing I think we all know I think we all know who the real real like come on to be Saint Drug Oh to be able to point an personnel rally. Okay there you go. You got one. I've been to get that wrong. I'm trying to go for the overall. It's too late now you're committing. Here's a saint number four Saint Cornelius. Okay Saint Cornelius is Saint Cornelius. The patron saint of twitching rabies patron saint of twitching warm rabies rabies. Can't Saint Hubert is the patron saint of people who have rabies saint? Cornelius is indeed the saint of twitching man. So if you're ever twitching just pray to Saint Cornelius. Saint Allegiance is our next number five. Saint Allegiance is he. The patron saint of gas station workers or girls from rural areas talk. He's a real absolutely real. Saint Allegiance is either the patron saint of gas station workers or girls from rural area girls from rural areas. Sorry Santoli is the patron saint of gas station workers. Saint Germain is the patron saint of girls on Royal Area Unreal. Sorry Jerry here. We go number six. What's the score right now? I gotta get four out of the next five right. Oh Boy Okay. Here we go. Saint Friar Saint Fryer F. R. I. A. R. D. Is he the patron saint of people who are afraid of wasps or is the patron saint of People? Who are afraid of snakes wasps or snakes snakes? Sorry I can't even guess you won't be surprised to hear that. Saint Patrick is the patron saint of people are afraid of snakes because Saint Patrick. Of course famously drove the snakes out of Ireland. I thas Pied Piper. Saint Patrick drove the snakes out of Ireland. That's why there are no snakes in our according to the Catholic. Church doesn't really think much of Science. All right we got you gotta get the. I have to run the table on the table. Okay I guess for a row saints number seven is Saint Barbara Good old Saint Barbara. Is she the Saint of oversleeping Fireworks the patron saint of oversleeping or of fireworks fireworks. That's correct and she a fireworks back in the game. Saint Vitus is the saint. Okay the Patriots say oversleeping. All right. We're GONNA do all right. Number eight Saint Benedict of nursia Saint Benedict of Nursia Is he the patron? Saint of spillovers Or of invincible. People can't think of a need a patron saint less then. The invincible people and I've never met an invincible person. But I don't think they need a saint looking spelunker 's or invincible. Let's go is that's correct. Daddy Pants Saint Benedict. Nursing is in fact patron saint of belongers Saint Drowsy. Smith's same. Drowsiness is the patron saint of invincible. People in Saint yes I I. I felt when I read that. Could they be invisible people and then make it even more? It's even less sense than invincible. People all right saint number nine eight actually in the running very exciting. Maybe the most exciting game. We've had healthy very excited right down to the end. This could be awesome. Saint Bibiana okay. Santa Bibiana is she. The patron saint of beer or the patron saint of Hangovers. Saint Bibiana patron saint hangovers or of beer hangovers. That's correct any pens. She is in danger. Patron Saint of over Saint. Arnold is the patron saint of beer. This insight and this is a true story by the way some people thirsty thirsty people once prayed to Saint Arnold and the next thing they claim was a pot of beer appear. I'm sure that's what happened. They were they were able to slake their Thursday. When the Mir that was provided to them by Saint Arnold Miracles miracles last one last one. I guess it right. Put down to this right. Jerry wins wrong. Jerry is screwed. Can you imagine being Jerry Right now? With all of his hopes and dreams hanging on depends knowledge of Saint Pierre. Guess all right. I wonder who the patron saint of guessing. You don't know that's that would have been praying to them work. Oh yeah now. Lastly Saint Number Ten is Saint Adrian. Nikko -demia okay. Saint Adrian of Nicodemus. Is he the patron saint of arms dealers or the patron saint of this stupid patron saint of arms dealer or the stupid? I WANNA say the stupid arms dealers. That's correct skate. Eighteen of Nicodemus the Patriots. Eight of arms dealers. Unbelievable how Eddie pence ran the table there at the end to come back. Jerry you are indeed a big winner today. How come back? That was remarkable four in a row. Jerry check your mail box. You'll be getting a box from us here at the report. Full of all those goodies that we promised you including a couple of others as well. Who's the saint of guessing? I don't know I should be too. That's why I said that about two questions. They said stupid. No the last question said. Who's the Patriot of guessing that I'm not saying you may be the state of stupid Saint Edwin? I'm just on cloud nine because I did that I was. I can't believe I ran four in a row like that. I can't I can't I'm not even thinking straight right that is Remarkable and little dumbfounded quite read. That's that was the best thing ever congratulations. Jerry you're a big winner and that was the army game show see you next time on. Garni game show the Garni Game. Show is the markets and build production just realized. I neglected to write down the saint of the of the stupid. So let me look that up real quick because people are going to say on CEO. Then I'll have to give them the information so I'm going to put you on. Hold real quick. Listen to some lovely music. We'll be right back. Please hold We appreciate Your Business. We continue to hold and we're back. Saint George Saint. George is the patron saint of stupider. So there you go now. There's no reason to be upset. You've gotten all the information everything. Somebody was seething there by needed. Probably Brandon Rohrabacher. You guys. You didn't say who the printing the saint of stupid was so. Now we've gotTA come anyway Jerry. Congratulations to our big winner. How has really I'm sweating a little bit? I was very nervous. That was awesome. All right now. It's time to celebrate you guys the garden. We love it when you reach out to us either via email like if you WanNa send your name and address to edit the report. I'm or write. May Ralph Ralph report. Dot Com Steve Ashton also. Available Steve at the Ralph report DOT Com. We're always on social media as well or you can leave a voicemail message on the Ralph Report Hotline. So pay twenty four hours a day seven days a week so easy. The access is there. He just got a dial it up. The phone number is one eight three three. I love it when you leave your voicemails. I listened to them all and then I grab a bunch of them. We put them here at the top of the show in a segment called army on the line. Phone play out as we mentioned Monday and Tuesday. Steve Ashton joins us here in the backyard. We had an enormous amount of fun with him. Here cheesed off. There was a phone call. We were listening to in this very segment that mentioned Eddie. And carrying and then the rest of the crew. Steve took only held onto it for a while. you know trust me. When he's leaving for the airport he was still holding onto. I I so I wanted to play this as a little tribute to him. People do love him. He needs some reinforcements. So here's Jesse from Australia. High Ralston Ed Jesse and I just wanted to claw. They say how much I'm loving having but you'd Wayne I the rest of your crew on the podcast address. A really great verifying love there. Thank you Jessie. Health drug is Jesse vosges hammers. He's hammered but the warm his heart though. Yeah I'M GONNA GET HIM. A t-shirt Says the crew. He's our crew. Laney called in. Laney was dumb when she was a kid. Much like Eddie Pence when a numb child. And so you folks have been calling up outing yourselves. Revealing your own stories of Childhood Stupidity. Lanes is kind of magical. Yesterday we had a kid who thought you had a child's name. Then when you grew up they gave you you're growing up nation. Is Your name along those same lines. Laney called in High Ralph and Hi Eddie. My name is Laney Two star general. I had to call because like Eddie I am stupid and I cannot believe I didn't think to call about this before but when I was little I I mean I had a little brother. We I was three years older than him And I saw my mom diaper and stuff and she informed me that he had a penis and I had a China teaching moment and from that information I came to the conclusion bat. When you were a baby you had a penis and as you got older it would fall off and you would then have a Pachulia her I don't know why and I don't know how long it took me figure out the truth. Honestly I really don't know But Yeah Anyway I'm stupid. Okay Ellen de you are so dumb you are really dumb for real. You are dumb. Ninety I can't she doesn't know when when it finally dawned on her that that difference was forever not just for child based belly but not you know it falls off after a little crazy Mike called in with a word that it come from. He was watching a movie and something sparked his interest. Hey Ralph it's Mike To Star from Here in Los Angeles I was Watching a Clint Eastwood Movie. Not Too long ago. One of his older ones they It ended with the bad guys moving in and they were hiding in a city that they painted the entire city read and it got me thinking like the term paint the town red. I can't imagine a campaign that movie but you know maybe maybe you might know where that term came from anyway. Thanks Buddy love the show and love. You mean it by Mike. Go movies talking about by the ways. High Plains drifter Oh yeah I was trying to think of the name. The Stranger in one of those Spaghetti Westerns and the bad guys are coming to this small town. And so in order to terrify the bad guys he paints the entire town red and changes the name of the town to Hell. Welcome to hell with very scary. Scary scary But you're right the phrase paint the town red does not come from high plains drifter from Nineteen seventy-three now it starts much earlier than that. You're familiar with the phrase fifth. I've heard tonight. We're going to go out. We're GONNA paint the town red now. Why does that particular idiom signify going out and having a great time? I don't know getting going out there. Partying getting loaded dry celebrating like never before. What a strange term to paint the town. Well it turns out it. Dates back to eighteen thirty seven in the UK and small town of Melton. Is the name of the town and there was within the confines of that. Small little place. There was a gentleman known as the Marquess of Waterford and the Marquess of Waterford was a UH fairly wealthy landowner but he was also a well known lush and mischief maker his misdeeds. His resume reads pretty strong. He was known for starting fights for stealing. He was invited to leave Oxford University while he intent was lighted lending their yes. He was invited to leave. He would break windows. He would literally upset applecarts. Which is another phrase came from him. He would fight duels and once he even took the heels of a Parsons Horse and painted aniseed on them. Let the smell of licorice. Yeah and then hunted. The horse with bloodhounds while my God I'll he was drunk. This guy was a real dick. Wow but on one night. In eighteen thirty seven he and his POWs got loaded at the local tavern and proceeded to literally paint the buildings of English town of Melton Mowbray Red and that is where that phrase came from. He was so drunk that he painted the town. Red and that story became so legendary that it became a euphemism for someone who would go out and get hammered and celebrate half a little bit to a handwriting Literally paint the town Red Inter cell. That's where that comfort from where yesterday during this day in history. We're talking about the patent that Samuel Colt received when he devised the revolver. Yes was a way that you could use a firearm without having to reload after every shine you kill more people quickly multiple bullets from the revolver and this gentleman had a question. I was wondering if you could do me a favor. All right This is John from la by the way I just thought it was a show. 'cause you're talking about Then mention of the colts and the first store that could keep shooting without reloading Gosh I I really would like to know how many bullets could've in a row do you think. Oh Man. What's his name. Goldfinger Middle Henchman. He's he he could help me count. How many shots and they get off before You know having to reload. I really appreciate that John. Thanks Allenby I think The person you're thinking about his IRV vanishes who of course was the was not the sidekick of Goldfinger the man with the golden gun s Scour Manga We bring them by the show from time to time when we need some counting help survey around. Could you please help? How many shots fired in a row in the original a Colt revolver? Do you know the answer there. You go now. You know. So informative six boats fired from that called Jag. Thank you John for calling it. Thanks to everybody who called in truly appreciate hearing from you you too can be featured on the segment but you know what you gotta do. You GotTa Call Me. Hey there. It's Ralph Garman here. I hope you're enjoying the show. And if you are why not subscribe to the Ralph report so you can hear it every day Monday through Friday for just fifteen cents a day you can be a one star general supporter and that will get you the show in your ear holes Monday through Friday? Of course there are two three and four star general levels as well which gets you more bonus content and more access to me. So if you like what you're hearing why not subscribe go to Patriotic Dot com slash. The Ralph report that's P. A. T. R. E. N. dot com slash. The RAF report subscribed today. So you don't miss a thing. All righty. Now it's time for us to take a look in the rear view mirror. What happened on This Day? February? Twenty six in history to solve the mystery. Decent boot invented King married his sister Queen. Who knows everyday seems to be an anniversary rubbing rouse lamps wishes. Please tell us what weekdays on this day and his. Today's very religious show. Yes it is. On This Day February. Twenty six and seventeen thirty two. The first mass was celebrated in the first American Catholic Church so Catholics probably went into some ashes on Wednesdays. Any guesses Eddie. Pass through. That was coming. Say What City was right. In the beginning I knew as new coming. Historical City was the home to America's first Catholic. Church any guesses as it was like three cities at the time. So we just had that betters. Your chances for you to guess which of the everything happened in that city. Which of those three at the time was the home to the first American Catholic Saint. Joe Trillo fucking Delfi. Elvia do baby on this day. In Seventeen Ninety seven the Bank of England issued. Its first one pound note till then everybody was using coins. Their pockets got very heavy in eighteen. Seventy you know what I say about the eighteen. Hundreds any rife with vendors so many goddamn inventions well. On This Day in eighteen seventy in New York City. The very first subway was demonstrated. It was a pneumatic train that traveled to the beach from New York City. It was pneumatic power and it was the first attempt to demonstrate that a subway would be functional underneath the city streets of new time. It was clean. That's probably true in eighteen. Ninety three to clydesdale horses in Michigan set a record by polling which for this forty eight tons of coal on a sled to clydesdale horses. I didn't know that strong at in either as well. A lot of horsepower. Jesus literally in Eighteen Ninety Five Michael Owens of Toledo Ohio another invention. He patented a glass blowing machine. Don't star get your mind out of the Gutter Kennel. A glass blowing machine up until that point glass had to be blown by hand. You probably ended up at the level. Sorry I can't Balkan help it you've probably seen those guys with the long pied. Yes low in glass boys. He happy I met at a machine. Which would mean uniform pieces of glass? You could get more done and manufacture them quicker yet. Not that gave the artisan No work that adds right and put a lot of people were hardest. Glass Blower yes In one thousand nine hundred sixteen on this day all this is GonNa make you happy. This is one of those. Make you happy in nineteen sixteen. The Mutual Film Company made one particular performer. The highest paid entertainer in the world when he signed a contract with mutual film for the salary of six hundred and seventy thousand dollars per year. In one thousand nine hundred sixteen. He was getting close to seven hundred thousand dollars a year. That's gotta be. He was like the richest person in the world. At one point I think or leaves the highest paid person. You WanNa tell them who. We're talking about early Charlie. Chaplin signed his deal with mutual film on This Day in Nineteen sixteen before that he was with a company called. Sna Film Company. And that's where. He did a series of comedies in Nineteen fifteen made him the popular movie star in the world and once that deal was up he was able to cash in. He made twelve to real films in a twelve month period. Twelve movies in twelve months. That's not which was weird. Because later on when he became he had his own studio control his own thing he took forever to make a film because he would practice things over and over and over and hers over owners cranking amount for mutual. The first one apparently was one called the floor Walker Not Familiar with that department. That's the famous scene. Where he's on the roller skates. And it looks like he's GonNa Skating around the department store. It looks like he's going to go over the edge and he doesn't right right because not paying attention to where he skating. I have seen that so there you go on this day in one thousand nine hundred seventeen. Let me try that again. I missed it in nineteen seventeen. The very first jazz records were recorded. Though about that the very first jazz song ever put on a record was by a band called the original Dixieland jazz band. Who's for the Victor Talking Machine Company? Which later on became RCA. Dixie jazz band. One step was the name of it and copies of it still exists to this day noise. You don't like that. I don't like Dixieland jazz payment. I don't like Dixie. Alex Dixieland try a little bit too. Frenetic it's a little bit but it might be silent films Gotcha so in. Nineteen nineteen on this day. Congress for him. The Grand Canyon National Park in Arizona loyal very popular in love the grandkid very popular destination to this desk Nile. Amazing not as good as The Mall of America. No Ad is a big known as we go there when you go indoors and look at stuff inside in nineteen thirty. The first red and green traffic lights were installed in a major metropolitan area. Jose Boza before them. Just stop sign Africa. I think they had those All the armed things down say stop and go right but they used red and green traffic lights for the first time on this day in one thousand nine hundred thirty any guesses as to what major metropolitan city had the the first red and green traffic lights. There's so many illiterate people in there just wondering if you know what I'm GonNa Say Philadelphia Be Manhattan Manhattan again. So many people they are all now. You're in traffic shots in New York to now you're in trouble. Nineteen thirty five. The first time radar was ever demonstrated was on this day You know what radar stands for. Did you know it's a new as an acronym acronym but I don't I don't know what stands for radio detection and ranging that stands for but today we just know it as radar in nineteen thirty six a charming young gentleman named Adolf. Hitler introduced the Volkswagen. It was the very first car that was created by the German Labour Front which was a Nazi labor union and it was in fact a Nazi car. So Nice all you guys out there driving jettas just keep in mind your Nazi. That's weird. That stuck around well. It was a good car I know but like Gee what did they changed the name. I guess you're just like a branding situation. Do you think that would have changed? At some point sitting how closely associated who was a Nazi Party in origins? You do think maybe they would have changed. It asks weird however they still call it a Volkswagen to this issue. Do you know what. Volks Falcon beans and German. No the People's car does it not nice. People know some people. Hey speaking of Germans on this day in nineteen forty two verner. Heisenberg the principal scientist in the German. Nuclear Weapons Program delivered a lecture to Nazi officials about extracting energy from nuclear fishing. He was telling them how a nuclear weapon would work. Can you imagine how the world would have changed if the Nazis had gotten the? Is that what started all the atom bomb. I the nuclear race. I guess sort of do who could develop a weapon first and then we added. Luckily we beat them. Yes No we me and some POWs. We beat them World War Two and then once that was over they they went into Germany and they had a brain suck and they took all of those German scientists paper clip operations pay off to America to work for us a week the fruit in the NASA than we can put them in space all that stuff. The the rocket programs the bombs all that stuff stuff the brain drain of which in Nineteen fifty two prime minister Winston Churchill announced that Britain finally had its own atomic weapon late to the game. Though in a little bit more is over. Oh some ten years by then. Everybody had one. But he's so proud of in nineteen fifty four Michigan Representative Ruth Thomson. This was gonNA surprise you to find out that. She's a Republican by the way she introduced legislation to ban the mailing of Obscene Lewd lascivious or filthy rock and roll record. Oh this is nineteen fifty four rock and roll just started the and she was trying to introduce legislation. See they're very clever. These people who are What do you call them? But I don't know what you're trying to censor. Oh Sir yes when people try to censor things that she didn't say oh you can't make rock and roll record write more. She said you can't mail them. Meaning that an Champigny right. Any company was trying to ship records into record. Stores would not be able to sell rock and roll records because you could get a law passed that way without really impinging on someone's freedom of expression or exactly. The offence would be punishable by five years in prison and a five thousand dollar fine now sadly. Her legislation didn't really wasn't very specific. About who would decide what was obscene lewd lascivious or filthy in these. Yeah she just knew you could tell right. One of the songs she had a big problem was by was an a singer named Hank. Ballard who had a song called work with me Annie and apparently she thought the lyrics were way to sexual of course the minute. The Federal Communications Commission tried to ban it from being played in the radio sales went through the roof and a shot to the top of the billboard chart for about seven weeks. Here's a little bit of the Hank Ballard's work with me and you can hear. Just how filthy these lyrics are and why someone had to step in and keep young impressionable minds from hearing this kind of Devil's music. That's getting while the getting is good dirty. You know what they're talking about right getting that sweet sweet who poon. That's what he wants right off. Filthy people trying to censorship in Nineteen seventy five on the today show. They had the first televised kidney transplant. Really how desperate for content will halladay show in nineteen seventy five? We don't have that now like on. Tv You would faint. There'd be the surgery channel. Yes well I guess there is sort of. Tlc does a lot of the asked. My wife and daughter watches show called botched. Have you ever seen this show? I've heard of it. I've never watched it. It's a show where to plastic surgeons take on the worst gases of people who've had plastic surgery go wrong like the woman that injects cement into her but trying to get bigger but chiefs and stuff and so they will go in and remove the bad implants and try to repair the damage and they show you stuff in the operating room. That makes me literally turn away. I've left Iran before my kid and just watching. It doesn't a canned canned had their eyes wide. No actually no Sano. No go banging away. They were the hammer. And I've seen where they put stuff in people's knows railroad spike up. Somebody's nose top. It simply terrifying cannot deal speaking to television nineteen seventy-nine. Cbs Television had the premiere of a Sitcom called flatbush. Now this was in the era of Sarah Night Saturday night fever and another show called lords of flatbush about sort of a New York. Young wise guys making their way in the world this one was called flatbush and was about a group of friends called the fun goes and people who lived in. Brooklyn were so insulted they bombarded. Cbs With phone calls and complaints and three episodes later. The show was pulled off air. I think largely because it also seemed to be really awful. Here's the Promo for a sitcom only lasted three episodes. In nineteen seventy nine called flatbush ready for Bush west side fung those are all over town one only fun kids have got what it takes to turn the town upside down loud again take a trip so flatbush remarried next right here foot. Wow sounds they literally were going to do these? Google did anyone come out of that. That was famous the actors it was. I'll have you know Adrian. I star Ealing yes. Aj Dreams Asher. Party was one of the fun goes. I can see Z for gold as angry. Oh I can see that. Yeah I can totally see that I could see. Why people in Brooklyn are you shitting me? Live in speaking English. Hard enough to be from Brooklyn now. This is what you're going to put out representing us. Gibberish Andrew dice clay on steroids. Nineteen eighty-three on this day. An album hit number one on the US charts and stayed there for an insane. Thirty seven weeks Thirty seven weeks at number one without any guess what was during again the year. Nineteen eighty-three thriller points. Very impressive. All right and you know I'd like to do at this point in the show is the take a food related day in history. Run A pass Daddy Pence Z. Whether it's something that he will eat and or of course stick up as on this day in five hundred ninety nine. Bc Nebuchadnezzar good old nebuchadnezzar was a person he was. He was the ancient King of Babylon. Okay he had the fabled hanging gardens of Babylon on this day or as near as they can figure I assume because it was a longtime yes he gave the order. That estacio trees be planted in his fabled hanging gardens thus making a stash IOS and exclusively royal food in fact the Queen of Sheba decreed that commoners were not allowed to grow the nut for their own personal use. They could even grow at to not grow. Pistachios was just for the royals. The Mongol Emperor Akbar the great would have live at lavish banquets for his royal status and he would take chickens and feed them nothing but pistachios for eight weeks before he slaughtered them. Because it was considered such a royal nut stashed years have been cultivated for over seven thousand years Eddie Pence. It's only one of two nuts. It's mentioned in the Bible really mentioned pistachios and the other. They mentioned his almonds pistachios production in the. Us was almost four hundred million pounds this past year out of stashes. Us's the world's second largest producer of pistachios with Iran being the largest student for many years US pistachios dyed red. I remember that two guys imperfections in the shells and to make the nut stand out in vending machines. That scene from naked gun whether sitting up front of the hangar provider. Read Lips and fingers opened the door to the mountains stash. Oh shells stash. Ice Cream was supposedly created by James. W Parkinson on this day not on this day but in eighteen forty so we salute today. The pistachio nut is that a nut. Eddie pence would eat or you think like many things. He would make a poor choice not needed at all. There's only one way for us to find out. We pull the handle of the patented Eddie Pens Jackpot Slot Machine Ziva. Something he's eaten or not. Is he royal enough to eat pistachios? Let's find out that you yeah. I like Patio King Edwin Enough Pence. Very Royal Very Royal. I'm surprised wife seems to me to be more work than you usually willing for. You just kind of open at every third one. I won't eat that one. You gotta get yourself a pair of pliers and a flat head screwdriver. In order to get those are hard to get open but like most when they were they roast them or whatever they make the Shell Papa stashes work. You're a guy who doesn't like crab crab legs. You got a lot of problems with a lot of foods labor. I don't like to work hard thing. I don't like it because when you get your fingernails in there to split open the shell the Shell can dig under your fingernails. Yeah Pain you get hurt a little bit. I can hear a little bit about six. Nuts your fingertips bleep dyed red. So you don't tell but I like when they show him for your distance in the bag. I like to Sheldon Golic. Ask Yo pudding. I think that's Yummy. Well look at you. So it's a good nut. It's a good day Freddie Pants. He won the game. These eight and pistachios. That is this day in history school by Ralph Recess Lease Dropping College level knowledge with attack. You've got my head spinning faster than drunk heady. I'm rocking back on. Track with a replica. Fat Celebrity loves my Beach Hotel. And that's a rep for the Ralph report. All righty. Let's take a look at all. The entertainment news in a segment called the Showbiz beat yesterday the title of Jurassic World. Three was revealed by Director Colin trevorrow now. I was surprised that they were making this until I looked at the numbers. Drastic world became one of the highest. Grossing Movies. Ever made and it was huge. It made one point seven billion dollars. Worldwide it was a huge movie terrible but a huge movie. I don't think it was as bad as drastic world fallen kingdom. I didn't even worse than than dress as you see that. I didn't even see them. Both that was the second installment in the world franchise and it made one point. Three billion dollars worth. Of course they're gonNA make so. I'm not surprised. There is a third drastic world movie coming. It is called. According to the director Jurassic World Dominion Who Dominion now. They've they've ruled it all right there. I'm assuming that's what it means right. Although it's funny I've seen the first two films but I couldn't really tell you what happened in the story. Line didn't really stick with me. You run around screaming and dinosaurs everywhere. Now what's the upside of this film? What's the one thing that keeps US interested? Eddie Pence Aren't they bringing back? Some there was okay. Oh Jeez Crimes. Act so you got Chris. Pratt and Dallas Bryce Dallas Howard. I'll watch anything but yes. She's she's stunning. They're coming back. But Nether also bringing back. Laura dern Sam Neill and Jeff Goldblum will all be returning as the franchise's well now. That's a reason to watch. I might have to go watch fallen kingdom. Just so I can be prepared for. Dominant Dominion just. I can see that. I'm guessing you won't need to seek to understand what's going on. Probably not so if you want to feel free. All Right Oprah Winfrey has announced. She is starting a podcast. The the own podcast. The Oprah Winfrey Network podcast to which I say. Just stay in your lane and you don't have enough TV network and listen what she's doing by the way she's just taking old episode of the Oprah Winfrey show she is not and pulling the audio from those episodes and packaging them into podcast format while black. Advertising money for podcast. That's all she's doing. Is playing the audio of her old. Tv show. That's her new podcast. I guess if you had a kind of library that can generate revenue twenty-five years worth of shows. Yeah she's just going to strip the audio out of it. Slap it on the Internet. Call it a podcast. And just sit back and clicked and calendar Brielle's unreal. I didn't unreal. I wasn't out there. Giving Away Cars Oprah. I wasn't stepping on your toes. I wasn't there doing wildly popular. Daytime talk show should show. Herbs are giving away. Some cars gotTA COME INTO MY WORLD. Start competing for my business. It's a little too much by the way you'll hear some of her most popular segments including the introduction of Dr Phil No she enlists both those guys and other doctors who aren't really dodgers out there in the world. So the Oprah Winfrey show the podcast starting on March third. You'll be able to hear that and on the On the Oprah Winfrey Network podcast network. That the only podcast. That's GonNa be on her network. I have no one does. Dr Phil doesn't matter paramount. Pictures has announced they are moving forward with a bio pic of. Sammy Davis Junior. Which I find personally very interesting because I think he was a fascinating one of a kind talent. I also think that is the problem for the producers of the show is that he was a fascinating one of a kind talent. Where do you find somebody? You can act dance play. Multiple instruments saying do impressions. Do all the things that Sammy Davis junior could do. Where do you find a performer of that caliber to play? Sammy Davis Junior in a movie on. Donald Glover maybe. Maybe maybe maybe that's only one I can think of this versatile just order. I think anyone you put in. That role is going to Pale in comparison to the trying to break my head. What performance what actors I could do that. I don't know unless maybe go off the board and you have one of those giant cattle call Adele and you pick some guy out of the of the crowd. Who's WHO's a no name and you just introduce him to the world. Sammy Davis should. I thought when walking Phoenix did cash I thought that was an impossible thing to cast and he did phenomenal in that movie. Johnny cash did one thing. I know saying I understand. That was impressive. Did a nice job with the songs can hardly comparable. I'm not comparing their talent. I'm just saying as a something to cast in a film. I thought that was a hard cast. This seems equally if not more difficult and I don't but it was done before so maybe they can find somebody. That's the good news. Is They have great writer. Who's on board to Penn the story was a big Fan of Sammy Davis Junior. Surprisingly his name is Charles Murray. And he's mostly known as a writer producer from sons of anarchy and Luke Cage. So you wouldn't naturally think of him as a fan of dance men but he said look. It's true if you saw me. I'm six four two hundred ninety pounds. Maybe three hundred. If I'm being really honest so it might surprise you that I grew up loving musicals and gravitated to Fred astaire. Gene Kelly Elvis and James Cagney. I was this little black dude and they said and then this little black dude. I would see on TV. Who held his own alongside Frank Sinatra? So he's a long time fan of Sammy Davis Junior. Who's African American? And he's got to encyclopedic knowledge of his career. So if anybody can write the story if this guy seems like a basically I don't know how they're going to cast somebody because he was just small. Persian was tiny. I yelled at you can base it off size. You just have to cast the best talent and the interesting point of view that this writer said he's going to take is that. Sammy Davis junior drive. To fit into be accepted especially by white. America was his biggest flaw. Was the albatross that hung around his hardest thing he had over. I'm he was so desperate to be accepted as as a mainstream performer. That really drove him so very hard. It was the biggest cross that he had to obey resume and the African American community against him because he was so desperate to get white people's approval. I think everybody loved him. I don't know I can't I don't know of any. Because because he startups a wildly popular black entertainer became known to white. America should be. He was a kid he was a kid. He was a performance. Worked his way up in the business. Anyway I WANNA see. We'll see speaking of old Hollywood Kirk. Douglas it has been announced. Had A sixty one million dollar fortune. At the time of his data he died one hundred and three. He has given fifty million of that to the Kirk. Douglas Foundation a charitable foundation the delegates money to various challenge charities through his foundation so fifty out of the sixty one million are going to children's Hospital and Westwood Sinai Temple Culver. City's Kirk Douglas Theatre. There's a bunch of organizations that will benefit from his fortune. People making a big deal of the fact that he gave his son. Michael nothing in his will of his sixty one. Yes I heard about. Were very curious as to why that Hell Yeah. It's very obvious why I would say maybe because Michael. Douglas is worth three hundred million dollars. Maybe Kirk was smart enough to realize that his son really didn't need the children's yes. I'm sure there's a conversation there are going. You know what I'm let's do this. This is the right thing to do. I agree today. Celebrity birthdays all these stars born on February twenty. Sixth Actor Greg Germann Gherman actually from ally. Mcbeal he is sixty two years old today basis. Tim Comerford from audio slave and rage against the machine. Fifty two do what they told you to what they told you. Get to what they told you. Get to what they told. Ya Condition for Sammy. Yes I'm just thinking I moved pretty good. Yeah impression and the actor I sing. I'm a drummer. He was a drummer to get some paint on there. And I'm thinking I'm thinking with today's. Cgi technology her take the sunrise. Sprinkle it with do green suit. Cgi beyond me. I've got the chops the candy man. The Candy Man. Can I have to tell you man? It's a crazy crazy thing. We're doing here seriously frank. Let me tell you thank you so much man for all the opportunities you've given me right absolutely close your eyes boom. Yeah Sammy's in the has that won't offend anybody call. My age pitched absolutely how about an elderly White Irish dude. Would you consider him for Sammy? Paramount That I mentioned bill. Duke is seventy seven years old actor director Bill Duke seventy-seven Singer Michael Bolton Sixty seven years old today among other good things when a man loves a woman cat would make a tape. I'M GONNA self tape that into the Producers Backers Marta. Kristen from lost in space is seventy five. I'd crush on Marta. Kristen back in their days where he runs she was judy. Jetson she was Judy. Robinson's seventy five years old today keyboardist Jonathan Cain of journey. Seventy years old Grace slowdowns is good for grinding. Yeah that's it. Actor Mazda. Barani celebrates his forty eighth birthday today. Also success immediate end up. Yeah do you know Mazda? Did we start around the same time? Another brush with great. We took a stand up comedy class together where she did. Would Mas no you today if you saw him in the. I've run into a couple of times and we get to that nod your day one. I don't know if he would know but we we took as he's GonNa know. This was like ninety. Eight ninety seven was that unspecified gets on ask like comedy dynamics. I'm point and all hell's going to break loose another brush with fame. And Lastly Mitch Ryder of Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels. One of the great soul singers of all time seventy five years old today R C senior writer. You don't go to sell me. I already cast you telling you I've already cast. You can take the Sun R-ariz not weird at all. I would crush all get that production shutdown quick. That's all this liberty birthdays for today. I'm Ralph Garman Show Biz. Beat and you know you know what today is don't depends besides being ash Wednesday. It's another kind of Wednesday. So we take a look at a famous son. It was a smash hit however the artists that created never quite had that success again. It's time for one. He wanders one hit wonders so very common tale. Today's kind of cool because we are going all the way back to two thousand eleven for this one hit ones or Darna. Lot of recent one hit wonders. It seems like most people get a cluster of hits. Yeah he get the occasional macarena or one of those one officer novelty songs but this was a song that was a smash hit as I mentioned in twenty eleven and it was everywhere. It came from an artist. Whose name was wally debaecker. Wally de Backer. It's not what he went as professional came to think of that guy no surprise. You don't remind lame familiar. He was belgian-born but he moved to Australia when he was just two years old and he was a founding member of a Melbourne. Indie pop trio called the basics. They released a bunch of albums but he also released some albums on his own however he released them under a professional name that was enormously hard to pronounce just by reading. It G. O. T. y. e. how it's spelled but it's pronounced good. Yay Riley called in for his smash hit song. Hey Ralph on star general here Andy or again my name is Riley Blake. I have a suggestion for one. Hit Wonders Goatee a somebody that I used to know. This fucking song was everywhere and the moines shit nearby by all means. Let's play it for you. You'RE GONNA enjoy the next couple of minutes. That's for sure. Go Ta has released three studio albums. Independent lay the first two albums. Were just minor successes there in his homeland of Australia but it was his third studio album making mirrors in twenty eleven. That created this smash. It was the second single from that album and go take usually works by sampling. He takes other music and then writes his songs based around those by adding additional instrumentation. And that's what he did with this one ill. He took a sample forever. Brazilian jazz guitarist named Luis Bonfire from nineteen sixty seven. It was a song called Seville. He took that and then he added xylophone and some instrumentation on top of it. And then perhaps I think the most clever part was. He made a day sort of back and forth duet between his feelings about a relationship and that of a female vocalist. He had a New Zealand vocalist in Kimbro. Who joined him on the song? Well the combination was unstoppable. It topped the charts in the United States in the UK in Australia in New Zealand. In fact twenty two other national charts around the world it went to number one. Wow reached the top ten in more than thirty countries around the world. The song has sold thirteen million copies worldwide becoming one of the best selling digital singles of all time and the video really helped sell it as well. You probably know the video. It's both of them nude up against a wall and then through. Stop Motion Animation. The Wall starts to be colored in sort of fragmented colors and then the their skin starts to be painted. Mo- recognize not at all. Well you're one of the few people because it's reached one point three billion view my God on Youtube as of November twenty nineteen Gauthier Kimber in that video. It's very striking. I liked the song. I still like this song I know Riley says it had it bothered the shit out of him but I still like it. Here's a little bit a goatee as hit from twenty eleven. Someone used to know who Cinco guests Sergio Myself. That you're phone. That was love and Chris into the could. We would still friends house leave. Pro Song was everywhere. I thought it was sting. It is the greatest thing songs thing never recorded that I I remember that song. I always thought that was sting house. Go Ta okay out of Australia with Kimbrough singing. I can't play the whole song. Plows of legal reasons right up like that but She comes in later song. That's when the song I think really sore is. She is a stunning very talented singer in her own right but goatee a as far as we know as never had a hit of that caliber could still do it. Because it's still young is listed a few years ago twenty Oh Jesus eleven years ago it is isn't it was the decade nine times running out go ta for your Second Act You may remain a one. Hit wonder one hit wonders so very common tale. That's it for today's show. Thanks so much for joining us. Boys and girls come on back tomorrow. We're going to have so much fun but as I always say it's not quite as fun without you love. You mean it by.

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111020 Hour 1

Ace and TJ

26:08 min | 7 months ago

111020 Hour 1

"We feel one of the most important things everybody should know about. Us is how patriotic we are and how much we appreciate and respect Our men and women in the military and veterans. So if you're a veteran we have an important message for you if you've been denied. Va disability compensation attorney mallory windham. We'll help you call today to five two four nine nine eight to two or go to ace. Tj dot com slash law. That's ace tj dot com slash law. Today's j. radio family. It's a it's a also would have to be an ego boost and alexis told you know. Should our thursday trapper forty up there. As an ego booster some the ego boost come from the comments are just seeing how many people check it out comments by guys kind of ood looking fine or whatever they might say can't say on the radio. How many of the graphic in nature Not so much anymore. Because i feel like. I don't ever answer back to those so i think that people kind of have stopped doing that as much. So when do you find yourself meeting this ego boost to where you wanna post a thirst trap. Like if i'm bored sitting home sad all the time and then saying need the ego boost. So i'm going to let me take this off and turn this way during the music up because i need strangers to tell me that i'm i don't think of it like that. Oh i'm a naked. Funny this is the tj show. Man i thought about tj one on the way into work because the middle of the city here in the mothership is shut down and we had that conversation today about these people who have a job that you know everybody hates you where they pull up man. I will hate this morning. And they haven't done anything just doing their job doing their j. o. B. in the cit y. But i'm needed to get to work today. I was running about five minutes behind and suddenly it tells me It's gonna take minutes ago. What is normally five minutes. Nope still took me that long. I just went around. And at least i can be moving. Yeah yeah. I didn't even have my Radio monitoring devices in my ears are hooked up even when when the music started our earlier few minutes ago because i was enthralled in eavesdropping on a conversation about video games in new consoles and controllers and whatnot between rob and regan's today's day of what xbox man xbox man you talk about so there's a new xbox released today yeah regan's you were talking about that yesterday you whatever. What is that now training chicago. You hear that lady's to get to the store. You can't resist it. I think i'm gonna start playing video games. Please seems like a nice house doesn't for me absolutely. If you don't like reading you still want to be engaged. I think it's a great way to kill some time. You know out I don't know if there's any non game you like there's the problem what are you gonna five. I can't think of any non fiction type games that he'd be interested in he might like sport games into Football baseball and that kind of stuff. No this is one of those things. And i always talk about. It and i know this is a shortcoming in my twisted life. But i will be so far into something that i i just you know pretty much not obsess over it. But i'm i'm so into it that it becomes the thing that i do and then one day i don't do it and then i never go back to it because it's like i've gotten my time in on that announce onto onto new things. I rarely go back to something that i was into. And that's the way it is with video games for me. And i was about fourteen whenever i stopped playing video games. Did it done. It moved on. Yeah and it's not that i look at it. Now go to complicated. i'd never be able to understand it. I wouldn't be able to work the newfangled. You know video consoles and all that it's just that i have is zero interest in it even old school games every now. And then you know if. I run across a waco gallagher old school. Tari type you know games. I'll play a couple of times. And then i'm finished with this and i don't understand how the games are like movies like when you see the commercials for them and everything. It's like a movie trailer so there's always a story going on. Yeah eighty and there's where tj different. What makes this radio program work. Because i still like the same things. I'd like to when i was fifteen straight out and stuff like literally. Have it added anything. I've changed a same stuff. I liked when i was fifteen. I still like today. Yeah that's that's interesting. yeah. I like going to concerts. I like video games. Yeah wrestling mudbound loud music. Whatever took some people call that of lack of maturity on my part you just Like what you like. And then you know. That's the same with me. Because i mean. My wife criticizes me all the time. Yeah you get all obsessed with something and then no more just done like it's a bad thing but then you think about how many things that i know a little bit about you know from in that sure you know. I got to say jack of all trades master of none. Yeah you know. I get into it until it starts to bore me one day and then i'm gone but the knowledge is like you lose the knowledge that you gain while you were doing that stuff right. Yeah so you do know. There are a lot of things that you know a good amount amount because you get so absorbed with it than just move onto something else. Yeah like the one thing that i've stuck with consistently since i was about sixteen and i still do to. This day is be sexy. I started getting sexy at about sixteen. And then i just you know i've always maintained that s- six year olds. Yeah started. that's when it started happening started blooming this so much that you've maintained that at work to maintain our you've just naturally stayed that way. I've never turn my back on it and let me like i have softball for example. Yeah right. tj turned. His back on softball never turned his back on being sexy. Yeah i mean look look at how. It was with boxing. That one george forman fight in the early nineties at that was read. No more box. No more boxing. You will you come back for that tyson. Fight later this month. If i have to pay for it they charge way too much for that. Yeah and it's an exhibition. Yeah does that affect anything mean. I mean it doesn't matter but yeah it it's going to be. I hope. I hope they try to knock each other out. You gotta pay for reagan illegal. No there's a like a bar restaurant in my building down the street little bit. Actually so i'm gonna go down there and watch okay. Who's he find. Drago drago one for the ages. These that i know Not everybody got the joke with those. That did are laughing uproariously right now. Toronto drago was in that exhibition with apollo. And it didn't turn out well for yeah from james brown out of in america. So who is mike. Tyson fighting is it now back another while you went back to three on them. Roy jones junior right. Oh i thought he was still a rap superstar hip hop superstar. Roy heard roy jones junior song he wanted. He became a rapper. No i've never heard joel zone and missed. I do You missing some good. I we got a lot of stuff to get to today. On the tj show including a bank employee who went on instagram. Live and talking about an experience she just had with a disgruntled customer. She was not happy. It's an ugly scenario and wait until we tell you the stuff that you'll see in the video before you here the video because that's going to factor into what you think of the video plus some new stuff the hot on tiktok much more delicious audio nets and to do you love sugar spice and everything. Nice do you love pumpkin fragrances. Than i have something for you. I'm bobby barbara independent. Since he director our new fallen harvest atoms are now available on my website. At smells just right dot com. We have some amazing new products and we have something for everyone hop on over and check it out at smells just right. Dot com got questions. I have answers text or call two five six seven one zero two three four two and let me help you get your home. Ready for tj show presents delicious. Got a bryson on tiktok. Almost two hundred thousand followers short comedy sketches on the app. I liked the name. He dressed up in a french maid costume the other day for tiktok and that his roommates walked in. And we're clearly concerned. The video has about a million likes five million views so far far cuter than versity higher pricing for the ingrid discount. I you hear the door open it. He believes okay. I can't explain polled on grown guy. Maid's outfit roommates bus. What hold on. How quickly spend their okay. I get explain. Wait a minute like ask any he. He's super skis. Tiny so probably didn't take much to find a a real french maids costumed fit him. No he's and one of the thing going viral. There's a bank employee that we don't instagram live to talk about an experience she just had with a disgruntled customer. She claims that she had refused to cash. A man check for some reason and then he defecated on her car in the parking lot. And you can't do that. Obviously she's not happy about it and from the video you see. There is clearly feces and a and a tee shirts left on her windshield. Can i say it's it's heavily edited so i did. I did my best. I got it all out but it is yes. She's upset. customer got mad. Because i want to cash check and put on my car up on a b. his when i beheld his address all of that i just got awkward. I ain't even want to take shirt off my windshield. But khalil salisbury shepherd born january fifteen nineteen ninety six casa like. She's not forget that was going to be chilling. Full naming the grossest thing i've ever seen i don't even wanna look at it. It's disgusting. She goes to a car wash. They can't even power-wash off so because he doesn't get his check cash he goes out. Does that all the windshield of her car in public. I can you imagine he's in. The parking lot of a bank. Had to go out and stand up on the hood of her car to do that. I i really can't. I can't driving by what i see the when somebody does that. I always wonder Where they holding it and then they. It was just easy to do when they when they needed to do it out of revenge or did they have to really you know. Wait for it to happen. You know because you can't just make that happen out of okay. I want it to happen is going to happen. That's a great point. He had been needing to go cash and leave and then come back. I am ready. Now is the and tj show. Our we have a list of Baby names they're not just out of the ordinary baby names. They're out of the ordinary baby. Names that at least five parents named their kid that name this year. You know what i mean. It's not just one one parent that decided to name their kids something crazy. It was at least five that made this list for each name. Yeah you're gonna love this coming up next now. You can text the tj show by texting. At jay and your message nine six eight nine. Three more at tj next is your small to mid sized business ready for the inevitable rebound voice. Hunter dot com specializes in providing top level voice talent for all your video marketing e-learning advertising needs. There's no better time than right now. To focus on increasing your customer base and corporate internal audio needs boy center dot. Com is a voiceover service with the world's best voice actors and actresses call voice center dot com at seven zero four six four eight nine thousand eight hundred or visit us on the web. At voice hunter dot com. Tj show presents another personality profile tj. I know everything there is to know about women. Nobody knows women the way i do. That's you know. Psychologically not physically you know own know as much about that peleton cycle okay. According to the social security administration like. They don't have anything better to do. They've given a list of Ten out of the ordinary names that people gave their babies this year. And it's not just one person naming their kid. This each name that makes the list has to be used by at least five parents to make the list so at least five people somewhere in the country have named their child this to make the list. Your number ten subaru okay Number nine one word prince charles. I like number eight beyond number overnight. Is they just run it all together. Okay for the full first name. Is prince charles number eight. I like rambo so at least five parents legally named their child their newborn baby looking at guessing him looking at him lying there in the bassett. Rambo that's rambo. It's not the worst name. No rambo cute number seven. I like Because i tend to like generic names like my son has a generic name. His name's boy but that's not his real name this these babies real names infant boy. One word infant boy. Fam tbo are right now. When that infant boy becomes a grown man his name still going to be infant boy house at that dumb. Yeah number six. Attila the hun. Yeah that's pretty cool. Okay number. Five macgyver number four. I'd like to introduce you to these. Babies meet iceland. I they're all name. Iceland so at least five people in america name. Their kid iceland. Is that more female Number three dairy dairy dairy cow. Yeah there but in the action. The outsiders yeah the movie the book and all that there's one of his name is dairy. But it's not spell d. a. iowa spilled as the were daylight. Dare you how this is. Yeah darrow Number two is my favorite hands down number two infant baptism mama. At least five people name. Their newborn child mama sale ended up as a grown woman in your actual first name. We'll be mum and number one At least five people in the country last year name their kids cinderella. Oh boy a bunch of dorks cinderella out of all of those attilo. i like tila attila's good rambo. I could get used to rambo subaru. See stupid iceland. I don't even think is that bad. The fact that they did prince charles. Or an infant boy taking two words and shoving them together as if it's one word So his first would be like prince. Charles hair oppressor all's harris prince charles wilson harris or something like that. But i wonder how many years cinderella has made the list. I'm thinking there. There are more kids named cinderella than we would expect disney. Oh yeah oh. Maybe that's what it is not disney fans. They're just fans of the aren't they spelled differently though the cinderella in cinderella band. I don't think really. Yeah who i'm surprised. Disney allowed that hap. But yeah so regan's you're saying they're either Huge disney nerds or rednecks. All right They've done some some predicting here in their predictions. Say what we are going to be getting a lot of this christmas as gifts and some you ladies may not like may not lie. Men won't care but the ladies may not like it. We'll do it next. This is the ace and tj. Show calling on tj show. Please all right so thanksgiving is what three weeks two weeks. Away and Crema is already the thing. Everybody's doing thanksgiving is an afterthought now which is a shame. thanksgiving Is very cool. I like yeah. So thanksgiving's two weeks from thurston. Thanksgiving glove thanksgiving. But how many days do we need to celebrate thanksgiving. I mean. is there a build up to thanksgiving not really give it three days. Wednesday thursday friday but surrounding. It should be christmas. Oh i mean what do you do in. Why not celebrate christmas early or get excited for it. I don't know. I'm just saying. I don't think thanksgiving should be overlooked. If you want to. Put up your christmas tree. In april i don't care. Is your business here. Thanksgiving day way better than christmas day. It's ridiculous way. But you still have a christmas list of things that you give. I thought you had to give your mama christmas list every year and rhythm you're just now you're lashing out at random things because he didn't know argument you know i'm not. I think that that's why i would think the you lie. Chris was better is because you still get a ton of gifts. And all i get enough. That's right don't come see me as a grown man but this year they're saying get ready to get a lot of homemade christmas kid and it's not just because the political pandemic made everybody poor is because of the hobbies that people picked up during the political pandemic. I didn't even think about that. So a lot of people are going to be given birdhouse. Things like that that they've made you took up knitting during the holidays. You decided months ago. You know what. I've got this time. I'm going to knit a scarf for every member of the family. Eighty five percent of the people who've made something during the political pandemic shutdown House arrest said they will give at least one of their creations away as a present this year. that's cool. Yeah so the top items made in Created while stuck in in half baked goods I hope it's not something you baked during the political pandemic house arrest. And you you it away if maybe maybe meaning the knowledge that they have been baking things and they're going to make something. Fresh your cova cupcakes. Keep them away artwork. Sure that'll all be photo albums. That's become a thing during the political. You know people actually getting pictures printed and making photo albums out of and knitted things as like sweaters and blankets and stuff. God you started knitting in march. And you've got a sweater by december guarantee. That's not going to be good. No way you have three arms on. Yeah it's not gonna create not a chance but remember. Even the gift is bad. it's a gift. you're not out anything. I would love to get homemade stuff. People it wouldn't bother me one bit really. Yeah you might laugh about it afterwards though. This gives socks whatever but it said no reason to get mad at the person. You're not out anything. Yeah so if you don't like it then don't use it. You know whatever but i can't imagine a homemade gift from anybody not meaning more to me than any other type of gift because they took the time and the effort rather than just walking in a store going online ordering it and having delivered. They put a lot more love into that. Can you remember that ladies when your husbands boyfriends in a give you a bird bath byrd bath suck. I hate birds. Live in an apartment coming up on now. Trending with regan's heart breaking news to shared with. 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