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"dr. harriet breaker" Discussed on Female Criminals

Female Criminals

11:06 min | 8 months ago

"dr. harriet breaker" Discussed on Female Criminals

"A list of episodes that we used will be posted in the episode description. Today we're discussing cases uses of psychological manipulation. What tactics criminals use to deceive coerce and exert control over their victims? Why does it work and most importantly what are the dangerous consequences of these types of mental domination? Psychiatrist Harvey Saint Clair you're defined psychological manipulation as a psychosocial maneuver which uses aggressiveness cleverness and deception to influence others so they will give gratification edification to the aggressor this gratification. Whether that being taking hostage cultivating followers or seducing a murder victim is the driving force is behind the criminals manipulative actions. They desire to gain absolute control over their prey psychologist. George Simon identified many tactics manipulators hippie later use to dominate their victims such as intense flattery playing the victim to gain sympathy and undermining a victim's perception of reality through gas sliding so who manipulators target. How do they select the right person to fall prey to the scheme Dr? Harriet breaker identified the most common traits victims of relation possess among them are an eagerness to please low. Self reliance I desire to earn acceptance of blurry we sense of identity and a fear of disapproval in our clips. Today will walk through a variety of criminal manipulators and see how they identify these traits victims. We'll start with clip from podcast original crimes of passion covering one of the most well well known cases of manipulation in true crime history. The Manson family by manipulating in group and out group dynamics in the late nineteen eighteen sixties murderer and cult leader Charles Manson radicalized its followers and cultivated an intense devotion that propelled the family to do his bidding fitting. While the most famous killings committed by the Manson family were the tate labianca murders in August of nineteen sixty nine their first victim was drug dealer Gary Hinman Hindrance murder was the catalyst for a string. A brutal killings carried out by the Manson family in the summer of sixty Jeanine in July of nineteen sixty nine. Charles learned that the two men were in the midst of an argument. Bobby Beausoleil had purchased a thousand tabs of Mescaline from Gary Hinman but he then claimed that the drugs were tainted. Bobby wanted his money back. Charles figured that as long as bobby was asking for refund he should demand some extra cash to help fund the families 'cause an exchange Charleston over a few family members is to Henman's house to put pressure on him. Charles knew that Henman was particularly attracted to Manson family. Member Eligible Bailey so he suggested rested she go along to help persuade Henman but L. A.. Joe Asked to be excused from duty. Perhaps she guests at the visit might become violent. She later said that she witnessed the family members. Arguing over which guns and weapons they would bring the Henman's apartment instead Charleston family members Bruce Davis this Susan Atkins and Mary Brunner to act as enforcers. They held a drug dealer up at gunpoint while the spurn bobby. Beausoleil beat him senseless Eventually Henman agreed to sign over the pink slips to his two vehicles as payment. But when Bobby called Charles to let him know he wasn't satisfied when he was sure Henman must have money stashed away for the next two days. Bobby Mary Brenner. And Susan Atkins begins held. Gary Hinman hostage in his home. They continue to make demands for money while bobby relentlessly beat him. When Henman told them he'd he'd go to? The police. Bobby was spooked. He might go to prison for what he done. He called Charles. Who said you know what to do? bobby took that as a command to silence Henman by killing him before. I continue with Bobby Psychology. Please note that I am not a licensed psychiatrist psychiatrist or psychologist but I have done a lot of research for the show. The American Psychological Association has expressed skepticism that people people can be brainwashed into acting violently but some psychologists point to countless examples of people falling under a violent Colt influence and going on to do the unthinkable. Licensed mental health. Counselor Stephen Hasson use the rise of al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups as modern examples of how people can be indoctrinated into committing murder. These extremist groups have radicalized individuals through isolation limiting access to outside site information and instilling an US versus them mentality. Charles Manson uses seem tactics. Family members looked to Charles as their only source of wisdom and guidance. Some even thought he was the reincarnation of Jesus Christ Charles exploited their trust to make them believe they had to take a stand against the rich and powerful pigs of the outside world. The family wasn't just willing to kill for their God. Odd Charles. They were proud to do it. So when Charles gave the word bobby readily obeyed he stabbed Henman then dipped his hand. In the dying man's blood to draw on the wall he wrote political piggy and and then painted a pawprint. Charles had instructed Bobby to leave evidence incriminating the Black Panthers. He hoped Henman's death would heighten racial tensions and help kickoff helter skelter then. The group left taking head. Men's cars with them in this episode covering the Manson Family Gary Hinman murder was only the first in a series of killings killings soon after the family slaughtered actress Sharon Tate and eight other innocent people all in a bid to kick start. Manson's prophesied race wars but Manson's use of fear and violence was an opposition to many other criminals of the Hippie era instead they capitalized on the prevailing link philosophy of peace and love in this next clip. From cults we examine. What are the most iconic psychedelic cults of the Nineteen Seventies? The source family unlike Charles Manson the source families charismatic leader. Jim Baker relied on ideas. Like enlightenment and free love to bind his disciples to him like Manson Baker was at the center of the source family but instead of acting as a warrior he became their spiritual father offering offering them love and wisdom in exchange for their loyalty ultimately however this manipulation created an all consuming dynamic of extreme dependency between Baker and his disciples what appeared to be a mutually beneficial relationship. was actually in the service of Baker's Crowing Ego Jim Baker typically responded to complex problems by running away from them but this time he didn't cut and run this could be because as psychoanalyst. Has Daniel Shaw points out in his book. Traumatic narcissism relational systems subjugation as a cult leader Baker had developed a codependent relationship chip with his followers. Shaw writes quote the power that parents have has god like figures to literally give life and sustain. The lives of their children leaves each human being. With the memory of total dependency cult leaders tap into and reactivate this piece of the human psyche followers followers are encouraged to become regressed and infantilized to believe that life depends on pleasing the cult leader and quote and just as as much as the source family members needed Baker. He apparently needed them. According to Shaw the cult leader does not escape dependency instead he e and also in many cases she comes to depend on his followers to worship and adore him to reflect his narcissistic delusion of perfection. In March of one thousand nine hundred seventy three the fifty one year old Baker managed to find a second home for his followers which they called the Father House a three bedroom three bathroom home. In the hills near the source restaurant it was significantly smaller than the mother house. A fact that would soon lead to deadly sadly health risks in some ways life at the Father House went on just as it had at the mother house. Business at the source was still booming and it still required a a few dozen family members to run at each day everyone still gathered for four. AM Meditation and spent much of the day cleaning while seeking enlightenment but in other ways everything changed. Baker began channeling new believe constantly with an ever expanding emphasis on his own power. He began calling himself the Jewish name for God Yoga. He taught about the freemasons and ancient Egyptian magic for his followers the pursuit of enlightenment became like a whirlwind game in which no one knew the rules in our episodes on the source family. We go on to examine how Jim Bakker's total control over. His followers only increased over the next two years. Here's eventually they're number surged over one hundred fifty people but when a run in with the authorities in Los Angeles forced the cult of Fleet Hawaii Baker or father yoed met his end in a fatal hang gliding accident in nineteen seventy five for some. It was a death as glorious as Baker's Chris Life but for others. It was shocking. WAKEUP call. They realized that for years Baker had manipulated them believing he was guiding them to total enlightenment and intern. His followers had blindly obeyed his every whim. But what happens when a criminal delude themselves. US into believing that they're heinous actions are truly in the best interest up there victim coming up. We discussed discussed the horrifying kidnapping case of Katie Beers and explore the power of self manipulation.

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"dr. harriet breaker" Discussed on Cults

Cults

09:57 min | 8 months ago

"dr. harriet breaker" Discussed on Cults

"A list of episodes that we used will be posted in the episode description today. We're discussing cases of psychological manipulation. What tactics to criminals use to deceive coerce coerce and exert control over their victims? Why does it work? And most importantly what are the dangerous consequences of these types of mental domination psychiatrist Harvey Saint Clair defined psychological manipulation as a psychosocial maneuver which uses aggressiveness Restiveness Cleverness and deception to influence others so they will give gratification to the aggressor this gratification. Whether that being taking hostage cultivating followers or seducing murder victim is the driving force behind the criminals manipulative actions. They desire to gain absolute control over their prey. Prey Psychologists George Simon identified many tactics manipulators used to dominate their victims such as intense flattery. Playing the victim to to gain sympathy and undermining victims perception of reality through gas lighting. So who do manipulators target. How do they select the right person? PERSON TO FALL PREY TO THEIR SCHEME DR. Harriet breaker identified. The most common traits victims of manipulation possess among them are an eagerness to please these low self reliance desire to earn acceptance of blurry sense of identity and a fear of disapproval in our clips. Today will walk through a variety righty of criminal manipulators and see how they identify these traits victims. We'll start with a clip it from podcast original crimes of passion covering one of the most well known cases of manipulation in true crime history. The Manson family by manipulating in group and out group dynamics in the late nineteen sixties murderer and cult leader Charles Manson radicalized as followers and cultivated and intense devotion that propelled the family to do his bidding while the most famous killings committed by the Manson family where the Tate Lubyanka murders in August of nineteen. sixty-nine their first victim was drug dealer. Gary Hinman hints murder was the catalyst for a string of brutal. Oh killings carried out by the Manson family in the summer of sixty nine in July of nineteen sixty nine Charles learned. The two men were in the midst of argument. Bobby Beausoleil had purchased a thousand tabs of Mescaline from Gary Hinman but he then claimed that the drugs were tainted tainted. Bobby wanted his money back. Charles figured that as long as bobby was asking for a refund he should demand some extra cash to help fund the families because in exchange Charleston over a few family members to Henman's house to put pressure on him Charles knew that Henman was particularly attracted to Manson family member L.. Joe Bayly so. He suggested she go along to help. Persuade Henman but L. A.. Joe Asked to be excused from duty. Perhaps she guests. That visit might become violent. She later said that she witnessed the family members. Arguing over which guns and weapons. They would bring Henman's apartment instead. Charleston family members. Bruce Davis Susan Atkins and Mary Brunner to act as enforcers. They held the drug dealer up up at gunpoint. While the spurn Bobby Beausoleil beat him senseless eventually Henman agreed to sign over the pink slips to his two vehicles as payment. But when Bobby called Charles let him know he wasn't satisfied he was sure Henman must have money stashed away for the next two days. Bobby Mary Brenner and Susan. Atkins held Gary Hinman hostage. In his home they continue to make demands for money while bobby relentlessly beat him. When Henman told them he'd go to the gleese bobby was spooked? He might go to prison for what he done. He called Charles. Who said you know what to do? Bobby took that as a command to silence Henman by killing him before I continue with Bobby Psychology. cleese note that I am not a licensed psychiatrist or psychologist but I have done a lot of research for the show. The the American Psychological Association has expressed skepticism. That people can be brainwashed into acting violently but some psychologists point to countless examples of people falling under a violent cult influence and going on to do the unthinkable licensed mental health. Counselor Stephen Hasson use we use the rise of al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups as modern examples of how people can be indoctrinated into committing murder. These extremist groups have radicalized individuals through isolation limiting access to outside information and instilling an US versus them and Talapity. Charles Charles Manson uses same tactics. Family members looked Charles as their only source of wisdom and guidance. Some even thought he was the reincarnation nation of Jesus Christ Charles exploited their trust to make them believe they had to take a stand against rich and powerful pigs of the outside world. The family wasn't just willing to kill for their God Charles. They were proud to do it. So when Charles gave the word bobby readily obeyed he stabbed Henman then dipped his hand in the dying man's blood to draw on the wall he wrote a little piggy and then painted a pawprint. Charles had instructed Bobby to leave evidence incriminating donating the Black Panthers. He hoped Henman's death would heighten racial tensions and help kickoff helter skelter. Then the group left after taking Henman's cars with them in this episode covering the Manson Family Gary Hinman murder was only the first in a series of killings soon after the family slaughtered actress Sharon Tate and eight other innocent people all in a bid to kick-start Manson's prophesied race wars but Manson's use of fear and violence was an opposition to many other criminals the HIPPIE era instead they capitalized on the prevailing philosophy of peace and love in this next clip from cults we examined one of the most iconic psychedelic cults of the Nineteen Seventy S. The source family unlike Charles Manson the source families charismatic leader. Jim Baker. You're relied on ideas. Like enlightenment and free love to bind. His disciples to him like Manson Baker was at the center of the source family but instead of acting as a warrior he became their spiritual father offering them love and wisdom in exchange for their loyalty ultimately however this manipulation installation created an all consuming dynamic of extreme dependency between Baker and his disciples what appeared to be a mutually beneficial relationship. was actually in the service of Baker's Crowing Ego Jim Baker typically responded to complex problems by running away from them but this time he didn't cut and run this could be because as psychoanalyst. Daniel Shaw points out in his book. Traumatic narcissism relational systems of subjugation. Listen as a cult leader. Baker developed a codependent relationship with his followers. Shaw writes quote the power that parents have as God like figures to literally give life and sustain. The lives of their children leaves each human being with the memory of total dependency cult leaders tap app into and reactivate this piece of the human psyche. Followers are encouraged to become regressed and Infanta licensed to believe that their life depends pens. Unpleasing the culture and quote and just as much as the source family members needed over. He apparently needed them. According to Shaw the cult leader does not escape dependency instead he and also in many cases she comes to depend on his followers to worship and adore your him to reflect his narcissistic delusion of perfection. In March one thousand nine hundred seventy three. The fifty one year old Baker managed to find a second can home for his followers which they called the Father House a three bedroom three bathroom home. In the hills near the source restaurant it was significantly vacantly smaller than the mother house. A fact that would soon lead to deadly health risks in some ways life at the Father House went on just as it had at the mother house else. Business at the source was still booming and it still required a few dozen family members to run at each day everyone still gathered for four. Am Meditation Tation and spent much of the day cleaning while seeking enlightenment but in other ways everything changed. Baker began channeling new beliefs constantly. Instantly with an ever-expanding emphasis on his own power. He began calling himself by the Jewish name for God Yoga. He taught about the the freemasons and ancient Egyptian magic for his followers. The pursuit of enlightenment became like a whirlwind game in which no one knew the rules.

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"dr. harriet breaker" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

09:57 min | 8 months ago

"dr. harriet breaker" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"A list of episodes that we used. We'll be posted in the episode description today. We're discussing cases of psychological manipulation. What tactics criminals use to deceive of course and exert control over their victims? Why does it work? And most importantly what are the dangerous consequences of these types of mental domination psychiatrist Harvey Saint Clair defined psychological manipulation as a psychosocial maneuver which uses is aggressiveness cleverness and deception to influence others so they will give gratification to the aggressor this gratification. Whether that being taking hostage wjr cultivating followers or seducing a murder victim is the driving force behind criminals manipulative actions. They desire to gain absolute control over for their prey psychologist. George Simon identified many tactics manipulators use to dominate their victims such as intense flattery. Playing the victim victim to gain sympathy and undermining victims perception of reality through gas lighting. So who manipulators target. How do they select the right white person to fall PREY TO THE SCHEME DR? Harriet breaker identified. The most common traits victims of manipulation possess among them are an eagerness to please low self reliance desire to earn acceptance of blurry sense of identity and a fear of disapproval in our clips. Today we'll walk through a variety of criminal manipulators and see how they identify these traits victims. We'll start with the a clip from podcast original crimes of passion covering one of the most well known cases of manipulation in true crime history. The Manson family by manipulating in group and out group dynamics in the late nineteen sixties murderer and cope leader Charles Manson radicalized its follow worse worse and cultivated an intense devotion that propelled the family to do his bidding. While the most famous killings committed by the Manson family where the tate labianca murders in August of nineteen sixty nine their first victim was drug dealer Gary Hinman Hindrance murder was the catalyst for a string of brutal killings carried out by the Manson family in the summer of sixty nine in July of nineteen sixty nine. Charles House learned that the two men were in the midst of an argument. Bobby Beausoleil had purchased at thousand tabs of Mescaline from Gary Hinman but he then claimed that the drugs six were tainted. Bobby wanted his money back. Charles figured that as long as bobby was asking for a refund he should demand some extra cash to help fund. The families families 'cause in exchange Charleston over a few family members to Henman's house to put pressure on him. Charles knew that Henman was particularly clearly attracted to Manson family member. Eligible Bailey. So he suggested she go along to help persuade men but L. A.. Joe Asked to be excused from duty. Perhaps she guests at the visit might become violent she later said she witnessed the family members arguing over which guns and weapons they would bring Henman's Henman apartment instead Charleston family members Bruce Davis Susan Atkins and Mary Brunner to act as enforcers. They held the drug dealer. Taylor up at gunpoint while the spurn bobby. Beausoleil beat him senseless eventually Henman agreed to sign over the pink slips to his two vehicles as payment mint. But when Bobby called Charles to let him know he wasn't satisfied he was sure Henman must have money stashed away for the next two days. Bobby Mary Brunner and Susan Atkins held Gary Hinman hostage in his home. They continue to make demands for money. Any while bobby relentlessly beat him when Henman told them he'd go to. The police. Bobby was spooked. He might go to prison for what he done. He called Charles. Who said you know what to do? Bobby took that as a command to silence Henman by killing him before four. Continue with Bobby Psychology. cleese note that I am not a licensed psychiatrist or psychologist but I have done a lot of research for the show. The American Psychological Association has expressed skepticism. That people can be brainwashed into acting violently but some psychologists point to countless countless examples of people falling under a violent Colt influence and going on to do the unthinkable. Licensed mental health. Counselor Stephen Hasson use the rise above all Qaeda and other terrorist groups as modern examples of how people can be indoctrinated into committing murder. These extremist groups have radicalized individuals through isolation limiting access to outside information and instilling an US versus them mentality. Charles Manson uses same tactics family members. Look to Charles as their only source of wisdom and guidance some even thought he was the reincarnation carnation of Jesus Christ Charles exploited their trust to make them believe they had to take a stand against the rich and powerful pigs of the outside outside world. The family wasn't just willing to kill for their God Charles. They were proud to do it. So when Charles gave the word word bobby readily obeyed. He stabbed Henman than dipped his hand in the dying. Man's blood to draw on the wall. He wrote political piggy and then painted a pawprint. Charles had instructed Bobby to leave evidence incriminating incriminating the Black Panthers he hoped Henman's death would heighten racial tensions and help kickoff helter skelter. Then the group black taking Henman's cars with them in this episode covering bring the Manson Family Gary Hinman murder was only the first in a series of killings soon after the family slaughtered actress Sharon Tate and eight other innocent people people all in a bid to kick start. Manson's prophesied race wars but Manson's use of fear and violence was an opposition to many other criminals medals of the Hippie era instead. They capitalized on the prevailing philosophy of peace and love in this next clip from colts. We examine Zaman one of the most iconic psychedelic colts. One thousand nine hundred seventy s the source family unlike Charles Manson the source families charismatic leader. Jim Baker relied on ideas. Like Enlightenment and free love to buy his disciples to him like Manson Baker was at the center of the source family but instead of acting as a warrior became their spiritual father offering them love and wisdom in exchange for their loyalty ultimately however this this manipulation created an all consuming dynamic of extreme dependency between Baker and his disciples what appeared to be a mutually beneficial relationship. I was actually in the service of Baker's Crowing Ego Jim Baker typically responded to complex problems by running away from them but this time he didn't cut and run this could be because as psychoanalyst. Daniel Shaw points out in his book. Traumatic narcissism relational systems of subjugation education as a cult leader Baker had developed a codependent relationship with his followers. Shaw writes quote the power that parents have has god. I'd like figures to literally give life and sustain. The lives of their children leaves each human being with the memory of total dependency comp leaders tap into and reactivate this piece of the human psyche followers are encouraged to become regressed and infantilized to believe that the lyft fifty pens unpleasing the cult leader and quote and just as much as the source family members needed Baker. He apparently needed them. According waiting to Shaw the cult leader does not escape dependency instead he and also in many cases she comes to depend on his followers to worship and adore him to reflect his narcissistic delusion of perfection. In March of Nineteen seventy-three the fifty one year old Baker managed to find the second home for his followers which they called the Father House a three bedroom three bathroom home in the hills near the source restaurant. It was significantly -nificant smaller than the mother house. A fact that would soon lead to deadly health risks in some ways life at the Father House went on just as it had at the mother other house. Business at the source was still booming and it still required a few dozen family members to run at each day everyone still gathered for four. Am am meditation and spent much of the day cleaning while seeking enlightenment but another ways everything changed. Baker began channeling new beliefs constantly constantly with an ever expanding emphasis on his own power. He began calling himself by the Jewish name for God Yoga. He taught about the freemasons and ancient Egyptian magic for his followers the pursuit of enlightenment became like a whirlwind game in which no one knew.

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"dr. harriet breaker" Discussed on Hostage

Hostage

06:18 min | 8 months ago

"dr. harriet breaker" Discussed on Hostage

"A list of episodes that we used will be posted in the episode description today. We're discussing cussing cases of psychological manipulation. What tactics criminals used to deceive coerce and exert control over their victims? Why does it work? And most importantly what are the dangerous consequences of these types of mental domination psychiatrist. Harvey Saint Saint Clair defined psychological manipulation as a psychosocial maneuver which uses aggressiveness cleverness and deception to influence others so they will give gratification to the aggressor this gratification. Whether that be taking hostage cultivating followers or seducing a murder victim is the driving moving force behind the criminals manipulative actions. They desire to gain absolute control over their prey psychologist. George Simon identified many tactics ticks manipulators use to dominate their victims such as intense flattery. Playing the victim to gain sympathy and undermining victims perception of reality through gasoline. So who do manipulators target. How do they select the right person to fall prey to the scheme Dr? Harriet breaker identified identified. The most common traits victims of manipulation possess among them are an eagerness to please low self reliance I desire to earn acceptance the blurry sense of identity and fear of disapproval in our clips today walk through a variety of crimen leaders and see how they identify these traits rates victims. We'll start with a clip from podcast original crimes of passion covering one of the most well known cases of manipulation in true crime history. The Manson family by manipulating in group and out group dynamics in the late nineteen sixties murderer and cult leader Charles Manson radicalized its followers and cultivated an intense devotion that propelled the family eight to do his bidding. While the most famous killings committed by the Manson family were the tate labianca murders in August of nineteen sixty nine their first first victim was drug dealer Gary Hinman Hindrance murder was the catalyst for a string of brutal killings carried out by the Manson family in the summer up sixty nine in July of nineteen sixty nine. Charles learned that the two men were in the midst of an argument. Bobby Beausoleil Oh Soleil had purchased a thousand tabs of Mescaline from Gary Hinman but he then claimed but the drugs were tainted. Bobby wanted his money back. Charles else figured that as long as bobby was asking for a refund he should demand some extra cash to help fund the families 'cause in exchange Charleston over a few family family members to Henman's house to put pressure on him. Charles knew that Henman was particularly attracted to Manson family. Member Eligible Bailey. So so he suggested she go along to help persuade Henman but ella jo asked to be excused from duty. Perhaps she guests at the visit might become violent and she later said that she witnessed the family members arguing over which guns and weapons they would bring to Henman's apartment instead Charleston. Family members Bruce Bruce Davis Susan Atkins and Mary Brunner to act as enforcers. They held a drug dealer up at gunpoint. While the spurn Bobby Beausoleil beat him senseless senseless eventually Henman agreed to sign over the pink slips to his two vehicles as payment. But when Bobby called Charles to let him know he wasn't satisfied satisfied he was sure Henman must have money stashed away for the next two days. Bobby Mary Brunner and Susan Atkins held Gary Hinman hostage in his home. They continue to make demands for money while bobby relentlessly beat him when Henman and told them he'd go to. The police. Bobby was spooked. He might go to prison for what he done. He called Charles. Who said you know what to we do? Bobby took that as a command to silence Henman by killing him before I continue with Bobby Psychology. Please note that. I am not unlicensed psychiatrists or psychologists but I have done a lot of research for the show. The American Psychological Association has expressed skepticism People can be brainwashed into acting violently but some psychologists point to countless examples of people falling under a violent Colt influence and going on to do the unthinkable. Licensed mental health. Counselor Stephen Hasson use the rise of al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups as modern examples of how people can be indoctrinated into committing murder. These extremist groups have radicalized individuals through isolation limiting access vest to outside information and instilling an US versus them mentality. Charles Manson uses seem tactics family members. I looked at Charles as their only source of wisdom and guidance. Some even thought he was the reincarnation of Jesus Christ Charles exploited their your trust to make them believe they had to take a stand against the rich and powerful pigs of the outside world. The family wasn't just willing to kill for their God Charles. They were proud to do it. So when Charles gave the word bobby readily obeyed he stabbed Henman then dipped his hand in the dying man's blood to draw on the wall. He wrote political piggy. You and then painted a pawprint Charles had instructed bobby to leave evidence incriminating the Black Panthers he hoped Henman's death breath would heightened racial tensions and help kickoff helter skelter then. The group left taking Henman's cars with them.

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"dr. harriet breaker" Discussed on Christian Podcast Community

Christian Podcast Community

11:04 min | 1 year ago

"dr. harriet breaker" Discussed on Christian Podcast Community

"Sewed. Because this isn't me talking. This is. These are experts in their fields know what they're talking about. So the first section I'm going to read from a book called who's pulling your strings. And the author's name is Dr Harriet breaker. And she says, when your identity is fuzzy and out of focus, you will feel alienated from yourself and from others. When you do not clearly present yourself to others in definer Brown boundaries by setting appropriate limits saying no in standing up for your own rights. Others will tend to project their notions of who you are or more accurate more accurately of who they need you to be onto your identity. When you present yourself in the world, with an ambiguous sense of identity, you invite others to shape you, according to their needs, and desires. This is what Dr breaker calls. The rush ask phenomenon people who have blurry identities and vanishing senses of self are fodder for the mill of manipulators overtime, the participation in manipulative relationships merely weakens, erodes, the victim's identity further and further without a strong clear. Of your own identity. You are highly vulnerable, and a near certain Mark of manipulation. And then the other thing that I wanted to read from a book called the settle power of spiritual abuse. And this is by David Johnson, and Jeff Van Vondran, and they're pointing out in the section they're talking about issues that people who have been spiritually abused struggle with. So they say that you will have a distorted sense of self identity of yourself as a Christian. So they say, quote, people who have been spiritually abused tend to have a negative picture of self or a shamed based identity. This can be seen in several ways. I a lack of understanding or even awareness of New Testament texts that elaborate on our identity is new creations in Christ. Second confusion between guilt, and shame. Name guilt is a valuable signal indicating a wrong or bad behavior. Shame is an indictment on you as a person experience guilt. When you do a wrong behavior guilt is a good spiritual nerve ending causing you to right wrong behavior. You feel shame. When you've done nothing wrong, you feel defective as a human being and like a third rate, Christian undeserving of God's blessings, and acceptance third shame is the is the prime motivator of behavior. In other words, the dilemma of your negative picture of self can only be solved by good behavior and forth. A high need to hang onto negative to a negative picture of self in order to explain negative behaviors. This is true spiritual systems that teach or insinuate that even though you are saved. You're still worthless before. God. Justice center, saved by grace or a worm and not a person and this. Message can come off subtly. So they use an example of a popular chorus in. I don't know. This is a Christian him. But it's, it's apparently a song that has been used before. So these are lyrics in that song. And it goes like this says, I am so glad that Jesus loves me. Jesus loves me. Jesus owes me. I am so glad that Jesus loves me. Jesus loves even me and they emphasize, even this song insinuates, that Jesus loves a lot of people. But loving you was really a stretch, Romans five six however, indicates that everyone was equally in need of his love. Look at Paul's prayer for everyone whom Jesus loves in a Fijian's three fourteen through nineteen for this reason, I, thou my knees before the father for whom every family in heaven in heaven and on earth. Derives its name that he would grant you according to the riches of his glory. To be strengthened with power through his Holy Spirit in the inner man. So that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith, and that you being rooted, and grounded in love may be able to comprehend with all the saints. What is the breath and length and height and depth and to know the love of Christ, which surpasses knowledge that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God. And they close out by saying God didn't even love you. He so loved you. And that's that's goes towards this, this overwhelming sense that you get from reading books like this, because the overwhelming sense, is I'm not good enough for God. And that's not the message. And so if you know who you are, if you have a sense of self, then you can spot the manipulation you can spot the bad, theology. You can spot the abusive situations in. Fact, one of the things that John Calvin says, is that a true sense of self and a true sense of God are mutually connected. So you can't learn about God without learning about yourself, and he can't learn about yourself without learning about God and that goes for both our sin. You know, the negative destructive things in our life, and that also goes for the fruits of the spirit or sanctify, the positive things about our life. So if you have distorted sense of self, right? John Calvin, the opposite of John Calvin statement is true. If you have a distorted sense of self, you're going to have a distorted sense of God. And if you have a distorted sense of God, you have a distorted sense of the gospel. And the, the other thing is that we have a tendency also in spiritually abusive situations can be it can be between leadership and members can be between members members, it can be members spiritually abusing. Leadership that can go any one of those ways, and it depends upon a number of things. But one of those things is identity now in the case of spiritual abuse from leadership, which tends to be the way it goes, just because leadership has a position of power. It's important to know that leadership, any sort of leadership, any sort of thority figure can actually send against you. They can go against or violate their own duties, and this is something that is not talked about. But in the Westminster larger catechism question, number one thirty we see what the sins are of what we call superior. So this would just be anybody who, who has a thority reuse. So this could be the authority of parents. So these are way that parents can sin against their kids. These are ways that church leadership can. Consent against members. These are ways that various thirty figures outside of the church could sin against you. And this is what the larger catechism says, in question when thirty says, what are what are the sins of superiors answer the sins of superiors are, besides the neglect of the duties required of them? And in ordinance seeking of themselves, their own glory, ease profit or pleasure. They're prohibited from the following. Commanding things that are unlawful, which often comes in these legalistic situations, not or not in the power of inferiors to, to perform, so they may be asking you to do something you can't actually do counseling encouraging or favoring that which is evil dissuading, discouraging, or discountenance saying that which is good. Correcting them unduly. This also feeds into legalism careless, exposing or leaving them to wrong temptation, endanger provoking them to wrath your leadership, your thority figures. Your parents shouldn't be provoking you to wrath. Or in any way, dishonoring themselves or lessening their thority by an unjust, indiscreet rigorous or remiss behavior. So even people who have a thority positions can actually diminish their own authority by committing these sins and spiritual also tends to be a violation of Christian liberty which we also find in the confession. Westminster confession chapter twenty and I, I won't read that just because it's pretty long. But, you know, essentially the goes back to what I what I said about matters of eighty four. If the scripture isn't explicit in a in a prohibition of something. So we don't have an explicit command to. To not send in a particular way. Right. If it's not addressed in scripture, it, it tends to be understood as a matter of indifference, meaning that. That is left to your Christian conscience. And we trust the fact that God is working in your life through the spirit and his informing your conscience and of those decisions. And so those issues are not issues that, that those who have thority over, you have a right to bring up. So one, one question that came up in the group that, that I thought was a good question that should be addressed was the question was, was, basically, in relation to Rachel Hollis's buck. Somebody had said that they felt like Rachel Jankovic spoke was, was really a good alternative to Rachel Hollis's book. So I wanted to sort of give a little break down a difference between the two but also how the gospel changes. Changes both of those messages. Okay. So Rachel Hollis's book, and I'm borrowing her titles, just to, to give this these the Silla station. So Rachel Hollis has this two bucks and essentially sounds something like this girl stop apologizing for not washing your face. But seriously go your face. Right. Rachel jank. Vicks book is more like girl. Get down on your knees and apologized for not washing your face now go off

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"dr. harriet breaker" Discussed on Theology Gals

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"dr. harriet breaker" Discussed on Theology Gals

"But because of the episodes that we did because of the do we Roberts book, even that there were things that I read here that are directly connected to it. And so some gals were upset that we wouldn't allow the book Rachel's to be promoted in the group and they said, but there's no federal vision in it. And I'd really like you to address that because oh, and let me also say that Rachel herself says that this is not a work of theology. Yeah. Let's, let's deal with that right away. I mean, it's not a work of theologies. She says it's an application of it. So this is this is an ironic statement to me because, you know, they think of it as putting on makeup. Okay. You're taking your little sponge and you get your foundation and you're applying something. To your face. You're not applying nothing. Right. You're applying something Jankovic wants to say that she's doing application, she's not doing theology. But what the heck is she applying? She's applying theology. So she can't escape the fact that this is in fact, a work of theology. That's just a scapegoat. What I've learned about the federal vision thing and just being able to see it. I mean, there's two major things that I see in the book, specifically that come from federal federal vision, one is the covenant faithfulness thing, which we've already talked about the other thing is this idea of unchanging essence, which Dewey Roberts also talks about in his book, I have his book, and I also recommend that, that the ladies out there get it. So, but there's this idea that you have an unchanging essence, and this is actually a pagan idea, it's a notion of the. Substance deal ISM saiga that you have a temporal body and a and a terminal soul. So this is something that, that Rachel says, in her book, she says, in her book, quote, this is our simple answer to all of this. We believe that we are made with a soul. We believe that our physical bodies are not the whole story. We have an identity that is spoken by God's sustained by God. And even our physical body replaces itself, according to God's design at the end of the day, we aren't merely mortal, but eternal beings, the Christian concept of the soul makes most of these questions irrelevant. The soul is not located in one place in your body. You may you may get a leg amputated but your soul stays with you. You sustain a brain injury. But your soul is not last you start with one soul and it stays with you all the way until you die and even been your soul. Goes on living the essential. You. Will never die. It is deter. So I can't speak in terms of, of essence, because they don't think that the concept of Essenes is actually correct. But I really appreciate right? Clousre 's response to substance Eliza. Right. Clouds are is a reformation philosopher and this is what he says about this idea again, of, of essence, in the soul and dulas them. He says, quote, many theorists believe dulas him to be taught in scripture, thus. It is widely held that only the body dies while the soul never does so that the body is not essential to being human. This view has been successfully challenged in recent years by bible scholars who have shown that this popular view is derived from the influence of Greek philosophy rather than the bible itself scripture does not feel the body as merely an external unnecessary shell for the soul. Neither is the promise of everlasting life based on. Teaching that the soul is naturally immortal rather, the scripture, the scriptural idea of ever lasting life is that it is shared only by the promise of God. And that God promises in what that what God promises is the resurrection of the whole person, that is the resurrection of a new body at the day of judgement, and quote, so other aspects of federal vision that get inferred from her use of essence and substance dualism on the philosophical side. And then also covenant faithfulness on the theological side is ramifications for other concepts like regeneration, and grace and the order of salvation in those sorts of things. And, you know, I guess that's that's a rabbit hole. That if somebody wants to be able. To study. I would say get DUI roberts's book, but it's there. Now, Rachel can plausibly deny that federal vision, isn't there that covenant faithfulness isn't there, because she doesn't use those buzzwords. But if you know what these things mean than you can see that, meaning coming out in her writing, and they're most certainly there. So the final thing that we wanted to talk about was just that some of the ideas in this book. Are we think risky in terms of opening the door for abuse? Can can you talk a little bit about what you see as being the problems that might contribute to abusive situations? Right. So this is. This is really. This is really, I think what's, what's important, and why we can't just let. Heretical things sort of stay out there. There's, there's a really there's a very real consequence for these teachings on people. And so I'm going to read a couple of quotes from books that I also have a linked on my on my notes page for the Sepah. Sewed. Because this isn't me talking. This is. These are experts in their fields know what they're talking about. So the first section I'm going to read from a book called who's pulling your strings. And the author's name is Dr Harriet breaker. And she says, when your identity is fuzzy and out of focus, you will feel alienated from yourself and from others. When you do not clearly present yourself to others in definer Brown boundaries by setting appropriate limits saying no in standing up for your own rights. Others will tend to project their notions of who you are or more accurate more accurately of who they need you to be onto your identity. When you present yourself in the world, with an ambiguous sense of identity, you invite others to shape you, according to their needs, and desires. This is what Dr breaker calls. The rush ask phenomenon people who have blurry identities and vanishing senses of self are fodder for the mill of manipulators overtime, the participation in manipulative relationships merely weakens, erodes, the victim's identity further and further without a strong clear. Of your own identity. You are highly vulnerable, and a near certain Mark of manipulation. And then the other thing that I wanted to read from a book called the settle power of spiritual abuse in. This is by David Johnson, and Jeff Van Vondran, and they're pointing out in the section they're talking about issues that people who have been spiritually abused struggle with. So they say that you will have a distorted sense of self identity of yourself as a Christian. So they say, quote, people who have been spiritually abused tend to have a negative picture of self or a shamed based identity. This can be seen in several ways. I a lack of understanding or even awareness of New Testament texts that elaborate on our identity as new creations in Christ. Second confusion between guilt, and shame. Name guilt is a valuable signal indicating a wrong or bad behavior. Shame is an indictment on you as a person experience guilt. When you do a wrong behavior guilt is a good spiritual nerve ending causing you to right wrong behavior. You feel shame. When you've done nothing wrong, you feel defective as a human being and like a third rate, Christian undeserving of God's blessings, and acceptance third shame is the is the prime motivator of behavior. In other words, the dilemma of your negative picture of self can only be solved by good behavior and fourth high need to hang onto negative to a negative picture of self in order to explain negative behaviors. This is true spiritual systems that teach or insinuate that even though you are saved. You're still worthless before. God. Justice center, saved by grace or a worm and not a person and this. Message can come off subtly. So they use an example of a popular chorus in. I don't know if this is a Christian him. But it's, it's apparently a song that has been used before. So these are lyrics in that song. And it goes like this says, I am so glad that Jesus loves me. Jesus loves me. Jesus me. I am so glad that Jesus loves me. Jesus loves even me and they emphasize, even this song insinuates, that Jesus loves a lot of people. But loving you was really a stretch, Romans five six however, indicates that everyone was equally in need of his love. Look at Paul's prayer for everyone whom Jesus loves in a Fijian's three fourteen through nineteen for this reason, I, thou my knees before the father for whom every family in heaven in heaven and on earth. Derives its name that he would grant you according to the riches of his glory. To be strengthened with power through his Holy Spirit in the inner man. So that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith, and that you being rooted, and grounded in love may be able to comprehend with all the saints. What is the breath and length and height and depth and to know the love of Christ, which surpasses knowledge that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God. And they close out by saying God didn't even love you.

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